Post by: simple26 on April 12, 2020, 12:28:45 PM
Post by: israshot on April 13, 2020, 05:11:32 PM
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Post by: grodnoking on April 13, 2020, 06:54:01 PM
Post by: simple26 on April 13, 2020, 07:02:31 PM
Anyone know how I can sign up for donating in Queens?alot of urgent cares are doing or at least the test, check you’re local ones
Post by: simple26 on April 13, 2020, 07:21:08 PM
Post by: grodnoking on April 13, 2020, 09:27:32 PM
Actually the New York blood Center has a location in Queens but they are only excepting with positive testI need a place that is accepting without a positive test. 3 family members had, and I got symptoms, but the doctor said I should not get tested.
Post by: Shmobaum on April 14, 2020, 02:14:41 AM
Post by: simple26 on April 14, 2020, 09:00:02 AM
So happy to hear that Reb Aaron Teitelbaum’s Rebitzin is feeling much better after receiving plasma donations in Mount Sinai. Who knows... my dw donated there last week Monday.Source ?
Post by: Euclid on April 14, 2020, 10:41:07 AM
I need a place that is accepting without a positive test. 3 family members had, and I got symptoms, but the doctor said I should not get tested.Lakewood bikur cholim is looking for people who fit this criteria.
Post by: simple26 on April 14, 2020, 11:59:10 AM
Lakewood bikur cholim is looking for people who fit this criteria.any link poster with more info?
Post by: simple26 on April 14, 2020, 12:00:14 PM
Source ?Im looking for good news about this treatment
Post by: simple26 on April 19, 2020, 06:17:03 PM
Post by: sddd on April 19, 2020, 06:22:55 PM
Im looking for good news about this treatmentMy friends father's recovery was accelerated after taking. He had been improving beforehand but they feel this accelerated recovery. 2 weeks on vent before...
Post by: knowitall on April 19, 2020, 06:36:24 PM
Post by: S209 on April 19, 2020, 06:57:03 PM
I signed up for bikur cholims testing today In Lakewood. They emailed me when to go to the testing site and they took one vial of blood. I’ll report back if/when they contact me about donating.Tizku Lemitzvos!
Post by: simple26 on April 19, 2020, 07:12:55 PM
My friends father's recovery was accelerated after taking. He had been improving beforehand but they feel this accelerated recovery. 2 weeks on vent before...Thanks for sharing
‘They’ is the family or doctor?
Post by: grodnoking on April 19, 2020, 07:52:07 PM
https://refuahhealthcenter.com/2020/04/15/refuahhealth-participates-in-coronavirus-treatment-trial-to-identify-patients-with-covid-19-immunity/I'm not seeing where to apply
Post by: simple26 on April 19, 2020, 08:02:05 PM
I'm not seeing where to applyThey basically want you to come down and do the first test/sign up there
Post by: grodnoking on April 19, 2020, 08:03:23 PM
They basically want you to come down and do the first test/sign up thereWell I would want to go to the great neck mobile unit, not monsey.
And I'd want to know before if I qualify
Post by: michael on April 19, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
I signed up for bikur cholims testing today In Lakewood. They emailed me when to go to the testing site and they took one vial of blood. I’ll report back if/when they contact me about donating.
I went today as well. They told me that I might only find out whether I have antibodies if they actually need me to donate.
Post by: Luvisrael on April 19, 2020, 08:59:18 PM
Post by: simple26 on April 20, 2020, 03:05:29 PM
Well I would want to go to the great neck mobile unit, not monsey.Ok so you go to https://covidserum.com and click top right corner select great neck
And I'd want to know before if I qualify
Post by: grodnoking on April 20, 2020, 03:11:22 PM
Ok so you go to https://covidserum.com and click top right corner select great neckThanks. Forms closed :(
Post by: simple26 on April 20, 2020, 03:36:58 PM
Thanks. Forms closed :(There is a number too though I think you need luck there too 845-694-6363
I would suggest you just walk up there during hours
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 04:49:25 PM
There is a number too though I think you need luck there too 845-694-6363
I would suggest you just walk up there during hours
He stated earlier he’s trying to find out before going if he qualifies.
Post by: simple26 on April 20, 2020, 05:08:47 PM
He stated earlier he’s trying to find out before going if he qualifies.Basicly everyone qualifys as long as you had some type of symptoms for some time
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 05:13:02 PM
Basicly everyone qualifys as long as you had some type of symptoms for some time
I’ve had a dry cough on and off for two months (still have one now), and other symptoms that passed. I never got tested for infection. Would definitely want to donate plasma if I have antibodies, can I get tested? Do you think they’d want to screen me?
Post by: simple26 on April 20, 2020, 05:39:39 PM
I’ve had a dry cough on and off for two months (still have one now), and other symptoms that passed. I never got tested for infection. Would definitely want to donate plasma if I have antibodies, can I get tested? Do you think they’d want to screen me?probably yes heard from someone tested in Monsey that basically the computer made the decision you just tweak answers a little they were very generous not to many questions asked
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 09:44:42 PM
Post by: KSMH on April 20, 2020, 11:43:43 PM
Not sure which test was inaccurate but most likely it was the original Covid test. He had the symptoms.
I am wondering was % of test are inaccurate.
Post by: S209 on April 20, 2020, 11:49:58 PM
A close relative of mine tested for Covid-19 and it came back negative. He managed to get an Anti Body test and it came back, as him having the Anti Body.The Covid tests are significantly less reliable than the antibody tests, but they can both have been accurate. The Covid test has to have been administered while he was shedding to test positive, while antibodies can have built up at any moment from when he contracted the virus and on.
Not sure which test was inaccurate but most likely it was the original Covid test. He had the symptoms.
I am wondering was % of test are inaccurate.
So antibody test =had it at some point. Covid test = contagious at that time.
Post by: KSMH on April 20, 2020, 11:51:31 PM
The Covid tests are significantly less reliable than the antibody tests, but they can both have been accurate. The Covid test has to have been administered while he was shedding to test positive, while antibodies can have built up at any moment from when he contracted the virus and on.This can mean, many people testing negative actually had/have the virus and the actual numbers are even more skewed.
So antibody test =had it at some point. Covid test = contagious at that time.
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 11:52:18 PM
The Covid tests are significantly less reliable than the antibody tests
Source?
NYT is saying that many of the rapid antibody tests are of doubtful reliability because the FDA was too quick to approve 90 companies for producing these tests without adequate oversight.
Post by: AsherO on April 20, 2020, 11:53:15 PM
This can mean, many people testing negative actually had/have the virus and the actual numbers are even more skewed.
This is likely the case. Very possible some of the infection tests had 20-30% (or higher?) false negative.
Post by: S209 on April 20, 2020, 11:55:49 PM
This can mean, many people testing negative actually had/have the virus and the actual numbers are even more skewed.Theoretically. Then again, it’s self understood that many people in Lakewood who have not tested positive have/had it, including asymptomatic. Certainly a large percentage of people showing symptoms have had it. You can never put too much faith in negatives, since they can miss the virus, although they’re definitely largely accurate unless someone’s doing something really wrong.
In summation: there can definitely have been many false negatives, but the large majority were accurate, so anecdotal evidence doesn’t hold up here. Also, your story doesn’t necessarily contradict the accuracy of either test, though it certainly raises the possibility.
Post by: Eliyohu on April 20, 2020, 11:56:37 PM
Post by: yeshivabucher on April 20, 2020, 11:57:56 PM
There also a letter floating around signed by a ton of Drs in the community saying that the antibody tests are extremely inaccurate, giving them out is a disservice people will think, if they supposedly had it they can relax restrictions which would be extremely dangerousmain problem i heard with antibody test is that it will give you a false positive if you had any other type of coronavirus (some flus for examplre)
Post by: S209 on April 21, 2020, 12:02:01 AM
Source?Don’t have links now but Covid tests have been shown to be quite inaccurate, relatively speaking, and the official antibody tests from the 5 top labs (which the Mayo Clinic uses) are supposed to be 99.5% accurate
NYT is saying that many of the rapid antibody tests are of doubtful reliability because the FDA was too quick to approve 90 companies for producing these tests without adequate oversight.
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 12:03:25 AM
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 12:04:10 AM
main problem i heard with antibody test is that it will give you a false positive if you had any other type of coronavirus (some flus for examplre)
Source?
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 12:05:30 AM
Don’t have links now but Covid tests have been shown to be quite inaccurate, relatively speaking, and the official antibody tests from the 5 top labs (which the Mayo Clinic uses) are supposed to be 99.5% accurate
Right, but the rapid antibody tests anyone can take at urgent care aren’t the same.
Post by: S209 on April 21, 2020, 12:05:50 AM
are there false positives or just false negatives? Wondering about false positives for someone who was sick a month ago and is still testing positive, does that mean they are still contagious?False positives are much less likely, especially among a large group that do have it
Post by: yeshivabucher on April 21, 2020, 12:06:12 AM
Source?head dr of some urgents cares and a coordinator in hatzolah
Post by: simple26 on April 21, 2020, 09:41:30 AM
Don’t have links now but Covid tests have been shown to be quite inaccurate, relatively speaking, and the official antibody tests from the 5 top labs (which the Mayo Clinic uses) are supposed to be 99.5% accurateI wold think it would depend where he did the antibodies test if it was just a random that’s what everyone is warning about but if done with a hospital Mt Sinai/Mayo I would assume they have accurate tests
Post by: how on April 21, 2020, 11:37:34 AM
Source?It says so on the test
Post by: iAm on April 21, 2020, 11:58:28 AM
main problem i heard with antibody test is that it will give you a false positive if you had any other type of coronavirus (some flus for examplre)
the flu is caused by influenza virus which is a different virus from coronavirus, so this make no sense.
The specificity of the test designed by Cellex which was approved by FDA for EUA on diagnostics, is 95.6%. The ones that arent approved, but are being misused in public have specificity between 50-75%.
You can see the results of various serology tests out there, here:
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/serology/Serology-based-tests-for-COVID-19.html
Post by: how on April 21, 2020, 12:05:02 PM
the flu is caused by influenza virus which is a different virus from coronavirus, so this make no sense.A previous Corona - not a flu
The specificity of the test designed by Cellex which was approved by FDA for EUA on diagnostics, is 95.6%. The ones that arent approved, but are being misused in public have specificity between 50-75%.
You can see the results of various serology tests out there, here:
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/resources/COVID-19/serology/Serology-based-tests-for-COVID-19.html
Post by: how on April 21, 2020, 12:06:39 PM
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Positive results may be due to past or present infection with non-SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus strains, such as coronavirus HKU1, NL63, OC43, or 229E.
Post by: usernane on April 21, 2020, 12:40:15 PM
I'm interested in donating. My blood type is a positive. Please PM me for more information. I live in Flatbush but I can go anywhere if it's for Hatzolas Nefoshos
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 01:35:09 PM
I was positive and then I tested in Mt Sinai, and BH I have high antibodies. I also tested negative. They told me they would call me back because I am a candidate to give blood, I think they called me on Pesach.
I'm interested in donating. My blood type is a positive. Please PM me for more information. I live in Flatbush but I can go anywhere if it's for Hatzolas Nefoshos
Like! x1000
Post by: ilherman on April 21, 2020, 04:41:52 PM
So happy to hear that Reb Aaron Teitelbaum’s Rebitzin is feeling much better after receiving plasma donations in Mount Sinai. Who knows... my dw donated there last week Monday.Just as a matter of fact, his rebetzin got worse and stayed in critical condition a couple of days after getting plasma. So Im not seeing it being the miracle cure yet. I hope I'm wrong
Post by: avromie7 on April 21, 2020, 08:48:48 PM
The Covid test has to have been administered while he was shedding to test positiveThey currently believe a positive test does not mean still contagious. Someone who tests positive weeks after symptoms is told they can go out, but should be cautious.
Covid test = contagious at that time.
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
They currently believe a positive test does not mean still contagious. Someone who tests positive weeks after symptoms is told they can go out, but should be cautious.Was wondering the same thing. Do you have a source?
Post by: avromie7 on April 21, 2020, 08:53:01 PM
Was wondering the same thing. Do you have a source?A close relative of mine who tested positive 3 times so far was told this by Mt Sinai.
Post by: etech0 on April 21, 2020, 08:54:29 PM
A close relative of mine who tested positive 3 times so far was told this by Mt Sinai.TY
Post by: simple26 on April 21, 2020, 09:24:13 PM
Post by: grodnoking on April 21, 2020, 09:44:42 PM
This organization https://covidplasmasavealife.com/ which is now partnered with the Agudah is now accepting even without positive testSigned up.
Post by: simple26 on April 21, 2020, 10:31:42 PM
Post by: ilherman on April 21, 2020, 10:51:21 PM
This organization https://covidplasmasavealife.com/ which is now partnered with the Agudah is now accepting even without positive testmt Sinai also doesn't require tested positive
Post by: simple26 on April 21, 2020, 10:58:43 PM
mt Sinai also doesn't require tested positiveCorrect but the one posted did not take up until now only with test I think it’s a change in Mayo’s policy
Post by: yeshivabucher on April 21, 2020, 11:04:42 PM
Lakewood Bikur Cholim is now doing a couple of drives in NY https://plasma.lrbcol.org/got an appointment for tomorrow
Post by: shapsam on April 21, 2020, 11:10:22 PM
Post by: KSMH on April 21, 2020, 11:19:56 PM
I tested at the Bikur Cholim drive in Lakewood, they just emailed me that I have antibodies.What happens now?
Can you ask them what % of their test pool had antibodies?
Post by: shapsam on April 21, 2020, 11:30:07 PM
What happens now?They wrote that they'll contact me with the details.
Can you ask them what % of their test pool had antibodies?
Post by: yeshivabucher on April 22, 2020, 09:09:41 AM
got an appointment for tomorrowwaited 15 for them to get started but once i got in took two minutes
Post by: AsherO on April 22, 2020, 09:33:52 AM
What happens now?
Can you ask them what % of their test pool had antibodies?
It wouldn’t be representative of the broader population.
Lakewood Bikur Cholim is now doing a couple of drives in NY https://plasma.lrbcol.org/
When is this testing coming to Crown Heights?
Post by: simple26 on April 22, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
It wouldn’t be representative of the broader population.Talk to the local Hatzolah/Bikur Cholim to set it up with Lakewood
When is this testing coming to Crown Heights?
Post by: shapsam on April 22, 2020, 02:26:04 PM
https://forward.com/news/national/444562/coronavirus-convalescent-plasma-orthodox-jews-hasidic/
Post by: NTorch on April 22, 2020, 04:25:30 PM
https://mishpacha.com/gift-of-life/
Had signed up for the group in the beginning of April and drove to Brooklyn today with two of my kids to get tested for antibodies. So proud of them.
Post by: mme on April 22, 2020, 07:00:36 PM
Lakewood Bikur Cholim is now doing a couple of drives in NY https://plasma.lrbcol.org/took the test today signed up and they sent the email to come an hour later wen't was out in under 10 min
Post by: simple26 on April 24, 2020, 02:37:21 PM
It wouldn’t be representative of the broader population.The site now says Crown Heights coming soon you can’t register yet but keep checking back
When is this testing coming to Crown Heights?
Post by: michael on April 26, 2020, 04:59:16 PM
Post by: mme on April 26, 2020, 05:01:42 PM
I haven’t gotten any results. Is there a number to call?from which one the one from Thursday ? they said there will be results by Tuesday
Post by: michael on April 26, 2020, 05:04:12 PM
from which one the one from Thursday ? they said there will be results by Tuesday
I was tested last Sunday. Bikur Cholim of Lakewood.
Post by: mme on April 26, 2020, 05:06:07 PM
I was tested last Sunday. Bikur Cholim of Lakewood.the one they did in brooklyn they said that they will get back by Tuesday thru email
Post by: Therebbesbocher on April 26, 2020, 05:31:01 PM
The site now says Crown Heights coming soon you can’t register yet but keep checking backRegistration opened for crown heights
Post by: bamo on April 26, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
Post by: bamo on April 26, 2020, 05:46:32 PM
Bh, I had the zichus of donating plasma. It was a great feeling.
I did it this morning. Drove from Lakewood to Parsippany.
Post by: etech0 on April 26, 2020, 05:46:39 PM
Bh, I had the zichus of donating plasma. It was a great feeling.Do they take a lot of blood?
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 05:51:50 PM
Registration opened for crown heights
Thanks for the heads up!
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 05:53:18 PM
Do they take a lot of blood?
I didn’t do it but they probably just take one vial, I don’t even think they take two. Plasma is significant though, and if you’re getting tested for antibodies through this it’s with the intent to donate plasma if you have antibodies.
Post by: gozalim on April 26, 2020, 06:16:23 PM
Registration opened for crown heights
ETA: https://plasma.lrbcol.org/
Post by: gozalim on April 26, 2020, 06:19:05 PM
Post by: NTorch on April 26, 2020, 06:34:16 PM
why are women with multiple prior pregnancies excluded?
I went to the drive last week and they sent this email to me after I registered to explain the exclusion:
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Women who have been pregnant more than once have a 20 - 30% chance of having something called an HLA antibody, which would make their plasma not able to be used. Although the New York Blood Center will test for that antibody, and not use the plasma if the antibody is present, there remains a 20 - 30% chance that the plasma from women pregnant more than once will not be usable. Whether a woman has this antibody will not be known until they go to donate plasma and the plasma is tested for this antibody. Therefore, during this current testing drive, we would like to first fill the available slots with men and women who have not been pregnant more than once, to maximize the efficiency of the collections. IF YOU HAVE HAD MORE THAN ONE PREGNANCY, PLEASE DO NOT GO TO THE ANTIBODY TESTING DRIVE TODAY. Just to be clear, if this applies to you, you ARE still eligible for donations, just not antibody testing during THIS drive. We will keep you updated if and when these guidelines change. Our deepest apologies for the confusion and any inconvenience caused, tizku l’mitzvos!
(as a male it obviously did not apply to me)
Post by: koplonko on April 26, 2020, 06:41:29 PM
Anyone know if they accept other symptoms like a combination of cough, muscle ach, weakness?
Post by: gozalim on April 26, 2020, 06:43:42 PM
They ask that you confirm real symptoms like over 99 fever.would it be fair to include it as 'like' fever?
Anyone know if they accept other symptoms like a combination of cough, muscle ach, weakness?
Post by: simple26 on April 26, 2020, 07:16:11 PM
Bh, I had the zichus of donating plasma. It was a great feeling.Any details if where they will use it ?
Post by: bamo on April 26, 2020, 07:32:13 PM
Any details if where they will use it ?
Yes. My order was given by Jersey Shore to a specific frum patient in the icu. No idea who though. As far as amount of blood taken, they took maybe 3oz in total. The blood that they take gets drawn out and the plasma is then filtered through a machine. Once that happens they put the blood back and draw again. They did that about 4 or five times. A little uncomfortable when they put back the blood as they also give saline which feels real cold. Other than that was a great experience.
Post by: koplonko on April 26, 2020, 08:12:42 PM
would it be fair to include it as 'like' fever?Question is what else is "real" symptoms?
Post by: hvaces42 on April 26, 2020, 08:38:25 PM
why are women with multiple prior pregnancies excluded?Higher risk of clotting issues.
Post by: S209 on April 26, 2020, 09:05:36 PM
Yes. My order was given by Jersey Shore to a specific frum patient in the icu. No idea who though. As far as amount of blood taken, they took maybe 3oz in total. The blood that they take gets drawn out and the plasma is then filtered through a machine. Once that happens they put the blood back and draw again. They did that about 4 or five times. A little uncomfortable when they put back the blood as they also give saline which feels real cold. Other than that was a great experience.Thank you for the detailed information!
Post by: simple26 on April 26, 2020, 09:14:23 PM
Yes. My order was given by Jersey Shore to a specific frum patient in the icu. No idea who though. As far as amount of blood taken, they took maybe 3oz in total. The blood that they take gets drawn out and the plasma is then filtered through a machine. Once that happens they put the blood back and draw again. They did that about 4 or five times. A little uncomfortable when they put back the blood as they also give saline which feels real cold. Other than that was a great experience.Amzing Thanks for sharing, one more question if I may curious through which organization did you donate?
Post by: simple26 on April 26, 2020, 09:25:28 PM
Post by: Galitzyaner on April 26, 2020, 09:48:41 PM
Post by: grodnoking on April 26, 2020, 10:14:23 PM
Has anyone seen any sort of reference range for the antibody numbers?My mother was 320 which is lowest to donate. My father was 2880.
Post by: rs242 on April 26, 2020, 11:05:11 PM
https://plasma.lrbcol.org now has two drive locations in Connecticut and one in deal Nj on TuesdaySays only if u had symptoms and fever over 99
Post by: simple26 on April 26, 2020, 11:19:16 PM
Says only if u had symptoms and fever over 99It is meant for survivors how would they know you had it ?
Post by: rs242 on April 26, 2020, 11:27:16 PM
It is meant for survivors how would they know you had it ?My wife had worse symptoms then me with fever over 99, I just had a headache for a couple days. I assume I had but I didn’t have the fever, should I not be tested?
Post by: Eb228 on April 26, 2020, 11:31:56 PM
My wife had worse symptoms then me with fever over 99, I just had a headache for a couple days. I assume I had but I didn’t have the fever, should I not be tested?
I think you may have had it, but not intense enough to build up strong enough antibodies needed to donate
Post by: rs242 on April 26, 2020, 11:32:43 PM
I think you may have had it, but not intense enough to build up strong enough antibodies needed to donateOk so I shouldn’t do it?
Post by: AsherO on April 26, 2020, 11:32:58 PM
I think you may have had it, but not intense enough to build up strong enough antibodies needed to donate
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Post by: simple26 on April 26, 2020, 11:38:49 PM
My wife had worse symptoms then me with fever over 99, I just had a headache for a couple days. I assume I had but I didn’t have the fever, should I not be tested?did she test positive?
If not check back at the end of the day if not maxed out apply then
Post by: bamo on April 26, 2020, 11:41:31 PM
Amzing Thanks for sharing, one more question if I may curious through which organization did you donate?It was through lev rochel bikur cholim. I have to add that they were an absolute pleasure to deal with. They took care of everything and was super smooth.
Post by: Galitzyaner on April 26, 2020, 11:58:47 PM
My mother was 320 which is lowest to donate. My father was 2880.Thanks for your response.
The information you provided was actually very useful. Much appreciated!
Post by: skyguy918 on April 27, 2020, 10:27:05 AM
Post by: NTorch on April 27, 2020, 10:50:51 AM
Which tests are considered to be relatively trustworthy, and which are more suspect? Mt Sinai keeps pushing our appointments, but if I'm gonna find somewhere else to test/donate, I'd rather it be a more 'accurate' test.
I did the CovidPlasma/LevRochel test last Wednesday in Brooklyn and am waiting on my results. They coordinate through the Mayo Clinic.
They have another drive tomorrow in Crown Heights.
Post by: AsherO on April 27, 2020, 10:58:01 AM
I did the CovidPlasma/LevRochel test last Wednesday in Brooklyn and am waiting on my results. They coordinate through the Mayo Clinic.
What symptoms did you have?
Post by: NTorch on April 27, 2020, 11:17:37 AM
What symptoms did you have?
The week after Purim over the course of three days my Aishes Chayil and all 4 of my kids lost taste & smell. Then about a day or two later I spiked a fever just under 101 which lasted about two days and had severe congestion which lasted about a week from when the fever started.
BH by the Thursday before Pesach I was recovered enough according to my doctor to leave the house, but was not well enough under the guidelines for the antibody testing until 21 days post onset of symptoms.
Once I was OK under the guidelines I registered with CovidPlasma and last week they contacted me to come in for testing. I was so elated and brought two of my kids for testing as well.
PM me for my cell if you have any additional specific questions, either about illness, recovery or testing.
Post by: AsherO on April 27, 2020, 11:20:22 AM
The week after Purim over the course of three days my Aishes Chayil and all 4 of my kids lost taste & smell. Then about a day or two later I spiked a fever just under 101 which lasted about two days and had severe congestion which lasted about a week from when the fever started.
BH by the Thursday before Pesach I was recovered enough according to my doctor to leave the house, but was not well enough under the guidelines for the antibody testing until 21 days post onset of symptoms.
Once I was OK under the guidelines I registered with CovidPlasma and last week they contacted me to come in for testing. I was so elated and brought two of my kids for testing as well.
PM me for my cell if you have any additional specific questions, either about illness, recovery or testing.
BH glad you’re doing well. I’ve had significant symptoms but not fever and wondering if I should get tested.
Post by: NTorch on April 27, 2020, 11:25:26 AM
BH glad you’re doing well. I’ve had significant symptoms but not fever and wondering if I should get tested.
Am willing to discuss if you want to speak by phone.
Post by: AsherO on April 27, 2020, 11:26:36 AM
Am willing to discuss if you want to speak by phone.
Thanks, I think I’m good. Just gathering data points.
Post by: skyguy918 on April 27, 2020, 11:42:30 AM
I did the CovidPlasma/LevRochel test last Wednesday in Brooklyn and am waiting on my results. They coordinate through the Mayo Clinic.So officially it's the Mayo Clinic's test? I'm sure they're not sending the samples to MN, so what labs are they being tested in?
They have another drive tomorrow in Crown Heights.
The week after Purim over the course of three days my Aishes Chayil and all 4 of my kids lost taste & smell. Then about a day or two later I spiked a fever just under 101 which lasted about two days and had severe congestion which lasted about a week from when the fever started.Interesting. My wife also had it first - no fever, relatively minor symptoms except for perceived shortness of breath that turned out to be nothing (based on oxygen levels), eventually losing smell/taste - and she tested positive about a week after symptoms started. My kids had very minor (slight fever for a few hours, went away with Tylenol - and extremely runny noses) symptoms more or less in a similar time frame. I was fine during that time, and then just as they were coming out of it, I was sick for a few days. Fever on and off for max 3 days. Wasn't too bad B'H, just slept it off for the most part.
Post by: yeshivabucher on April 27, 2020, 11:49:00 AM
So officially it's the Mayo Clinic's test? I'm sure they're not sending the samples to MN, so what labs are they being tested in?I believe I read in an article they are flying it to them
Post by: skyguy918 on April 27, 2020, 12:21:35 PM
The week after Purim over the course of three days my Aishes Chayil and all 4 of my kids lost taste & smell. Then about a day or two later I spiked a fever just under 101 which lasted about two days and had severe congestion which lasted about a week from when the fever started.I see you wrote you went with 2 of your kids, which sounds like your wife didn't. I assume because of the multiple past pregnancies restriction. It seems like some of the other places are taking such women, and just testing the blood appropriately to screen for whatever the issue is. But Lev Rochel seems to say don't bother coming at all.
BH by the Thursday before Pesach I was recovered enough according to my doctor to leave the house, but was not well enough under the guidelines for the antibody testing until 21 days post onset of symptoms.
Once I was OK under the guidelines I registered with CovidPlasma and last week they contacted me to come in for testing. I was so elated and brought two of my kids for testing as well.
PM me for my cell if you have any additional specific questions, either about illness, recovery or testing.
Post by: NTorch on April 27, 2020, 12:25:38 PM
I see you wrote you went with 2 of your kids, which sounds like your wife didn't. I assume because of the multiple past pregnancies restriction. It seems like some of the other places are taking such women, and just testing the blood appropriately to screen for whatever the issue is. But Lev Rochel seems to say don't bother coming at all.
The assumption is not correct, but I am not comfortable posting any personal details on the site. PM me if you want to speak by phone.
BTW - there were many married women on the line to get tested, including some who came down with teenage children of their own.
Post by: skyguy918 on April 27, 2020, 12:30:15 PM
The assumption is not correct, but I am not comfortable posting any personal details on the site. PM me if you want to speak by phone.When you fill out the form to register for a time/place, if you click on F, it asks if you've had more than one pregnancy. If you choose yes, it says in big red letters "Women who had more than one pregnancy can not donate for this program".
BTW - there were many married women on the line to get tested, including some who came down with teenage children of their own.
Post by: grodnoking on April 27, 2020, 12:45:22 PM
The assumption is not correct, but I am not comfortable posting any personal details on the site. PM me if you want to speak by phone.Is it possible they were taking it just to see if they had antibodies (completely wrong and immoral) so they just ignored that message?
BTW - there were many married women on the line to get tested, including some who came down with teenage children of their own.
Post by: NTorch on April 27, 2020, 01:19:33 PM
Is it possible they were taking it just to see if they had antibodies (completely wrong and immoral) so they just ignored that message?
I don't know. The e-mail about HLA antibodies and pregnancy only came about 2 hours after I got tested (2:15PM), so its very possible that people who were there with me at 1230PM had not been advised yet.
I would not presume that they were coming to be tested for immoral reasons. Having gone through the experience and BH having a refuah sheleima, I wanted to help others who are suffering. Its the same reason that my son and daughter went with me.
Post by: iwlw2 on April 27, 2020, 02:18:29 PM
Post by: shapsam on April 27, 2020, 08:19:11 PM
Volunteers from @RefuahHealth center dropping off blood. They have sent Mount Sinai up to 2,700 blood samples from recovered #COVID19 patients to test for antibodies and identified over 1,000 possible donors for convalescent plasma. pic.twitter.com/dQV1HCJrI1
— Mount Sinai Health System (@MountSinaiNYC) April 27, 2020
Post by: michael on April 27, 2020, 10:00:03 PM
Post by: grodnoking on April 27, 2020, 10:03:51 PM
If Bikur Cholim dropped off 2700 samples and only 1000 had enough antibodies to donate, does that mean that less than 50% of those that got tested have immunity?No. Many could be under the amount of antibodies needed to donate.
Post by: AsherO on April 27, 2020, 10:06:25 PM
If Bikur Cholim dropped off 2700 samples and only 1000 had enough antibodies to donate, does that mean that less than 50% of those that got tested have immunity?
Please stop calling it immunity, I don’t think it’s 100% clear to anyone
1. What the definitive threshold of antibodies are needed to guarantee immunity
2. How long those are expected to last
3. That there aren’t other live strains from which said patient is not immune
And what I think is most important of all:
4. That a patient with said level of antibodies is definitively not shedding the virus and risking spreading it to others.
Post by: ari3 on April 27, 2020, 10:14:29 PM
Post by: simple26 on April 27, 2020, 10:27:29 PM
Does anyone know if they are doing another drive in Lakewood? (I heard from a doctor maybe tomorrow but I may have misunderstood?)Site now says Wednesday New:research program not sure what that means sounds like a different thing
Post by: ari3 on April 28, 2020, 12:53:47 AM
Site now says Wednesday New:research program not sure what that means sounds like a different thingWhich site? I can't find anything.
Post by: NTorch on April 28, 2020, 05:51:47 AM
Which site? I can't find anything.
https://plasma.lrbcol.org/
Post by: NTorch on April 28, 2020, 05:57:49 AM
If Bikur Cholim dropped off 2700 samples and only 1000 had enough antibodies to donate, does that mean that less than 50% of those that got tested have immunity?
No. Many could be under the amount of antibodies needed to donate.
There may have been many women in the potential donor pool and the direction that those with the HLA antibody cannot donate came late in the process.
Post by: Buruch on April 28, 2020, 07:05:54 AM
The following requirements must be met to donate:
1) previously tested positive for covid-19. Now symptom free and full recovered.
2) test showing the presence of antibodies
3) may be male or female, however, a female cannot have ever been pregnant
4) blood type: a+
Donor must be at least 17 years old and weigh at least 110 lbs.
Please call Moshe Plotkin to make arrangements 323-994-1922
This is a good family friend in serious condition. Please contact the number if you're eligible. He lives in Los Angeles, so doesn't have access to all the donor plasma being donated in New York. The family will take care of all the arrangements for you.
Post by: NTorch on April 28, 2020, 12:11:38 PM
I emailed them and they gave me "results" for me and the two kids. They would not give any specific information, just positive or below the threshold to donate.
Post by: yeshivabucher on April 28, 2020, 12:28:05 PM
Did anyone who went to the April 22nd antibody drive (BP or Flatbush) get their results yet?nope
Post by: simple26 on April 28, 2020, 01:47:32 PM
Post by: ari3 on April 28, 2020, 02:30:49 PM
Registration is open in Lakewood it says it’s for research and plasma donation
The signup does not mention plasma donation only research but when I signed up it still stated you must be willing to travel to donate etc..
Additionally in the email confirmation they sent me they are not going to give you any results so I was thinking of cancelling. Although I am willing to donate to help someone or for research but I do expect to see what they are testing and what the results were.
Post by: yeshivabucher on April 28, 2020, 07:27:58 PM
nopejust got email saying I'm eligible
Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2020, 08:08:17 PM
The signup does not mention plasma donation only research but when I signed up it still stated you must be willing to travel to donate etc..
Additionally in the email confirmation they sent me they are not going to give you any results so I was thinking of cancelling. Although I am willing to donate to help someone or for research but I do expect to see what they are testing and what the results were.
For some reason I feel like if it’s for research (and not for transfusion to COVID patients), there has to be more transparency about whether anyone is making bank on this.
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 08:14:55 PM
The Mayo Clinic has confirmed that your antibody levels are not eligible for plasma donation.
This does not reflect whether or not you tested positive/negative for COVID-19.
My oxegyn sat hovered in the upper 80s for a week. Not sure what to think.
A) I didn't have it (find it hard to believe)
B) I didn't develop enough antibodies
C) I already lost my antibodies
D) Sample/Testing error
E) ??
Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2020, 08:18:22 PM
Just got my results from Lakewood Bikur Cholim (Mayo Clinic). Tested in Flatbush.
The Mayo Clinic has confirmed that your antibody levels are not eligible for plasma donation.
This does not reflect whether or not you tested positive/negative for COVID-19.
My oxegyn sat hovered in the upper 80s for a week. Not sure what to think.
A) I didn't have it (find it hard to believe)
B) I didn't develop enough antibodies
C) I already lost my antibodies
D) Sample/Testing error
E) ??
Scary. How long before your antibody test did your symptoms subside?
Post by: shapsam on April 28, 2020, 08:21:50 PM
Just got my results from Lakewood Bikur Cholim (Mayo Clinic). Tested in Flatbush.E) You were tested positive with antibodies and they mistakenly sent you this email as they aren't sharing actual results.
The Mayo Clinic has confirmed that your antibody levels are not eligible for plasma donation.
This does not reflect whether or not you tested positive/negative for COVID-19.
My oxegyn sat hovered in the upper 80s for a week. Not sure what to think.
A) I didn't have it (find it hard to believe)
B) I didn't develop enough antibodies
C) I already lost my antibodies
D) Sample/Testing error
E) ??
They emailed me that I have antibodies, but they don't want to show me the results, so I submitted an information release form to Mayo Clinic for the lab report, lets see what happens.
Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2020, 08:25:50 PM
E) You were tested positive with antibodies and they mistakenly sent you this email as they aren't sharing actual results.
They emailed me that I have antibodies but don't want to show me the results, so I submitted an information release form to Mayo Clinic for the lab report, lets see what happens.
In order to not share results they told him he’s NOT eligible to donate?! Sounds farfetched to me.
Post by: SSLPhD on April 28, 2020, 08:26:59 PM
Post by: shapsam on April 28, 2020, 08:28:37 PM
In order to not share results they told him he’s NOT eligible to donate?! Sounds farfetched to me.No, I'm just saying there's a possibility that they mistakenly sent him the wrong email, and you can't know as they aren't sharing the actual results.
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 08:38:07 PM
E) You are a woman with HLA antibodies, sent their general "rejection" letterNever had an organ transplant, transfusion, or pregnancy in my life.
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 08:38:48 PM
Scary. How long before your antibody test did your symptoms subside?About 4 weeks.
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 08:39:30 PM
I submitted an information release form to Mayo Clinic for the lab reportLink?
Post by: sillypainter on April 28, 2020, 08:41:58 PM
Post by: shapsam on April 28, 2020, 08:44:28 PM
Link?https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/customer-service/patient-reports.html
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 08:44:44 PM
https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/customer-service/patient-reports.html
Thanks!
Post by: mme on April 28, 2020, 10:47:06 PM
Post by: sams on April 28, 2020, 10:56:41 PM
has everyone that tested thru lakewood biker cholem gotten there results? i'm still waitingYes tons of ppl did last week already
Post by: ari3 on April 28, 2020, 11:24:30 PM
Yes tons of ppl did last week alreadyDetailed results or just if you are eligible to donate plasma?
ETA did you do test at the Lakewood drive or in NY?
Post by: cgr on April 28, 2020, 11:26:28 PM
Detailed results or just if you are eligible to donate plasma?Just eligibility.
Post by: simple26 on April 29, 2020, 11:47:09 AM
For some reason I feel like if it’s for research (and not for transfusion to COVID patients), there has to be more transparency about whether anyone is making bank on this.https://agudah.org/blood-plasma-donations-a-lifesaving-story-of-achdus-and-dedication/
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Early on Tuesday, Lakewood Bikur Cholim was notified by the Mayo Clinic that their labs would accept 5,000 blood-antibody test units if testing would take place on Wednesday and delivered to their Rochester, Minnesota labs by Thursday morning. In turn, Lakewood Bikur Cholim reached out to other regional communities to offer a share in the opportunity.
Post by: shapsam on April 29, 2020, 02:14:04 PM
I submitted an information release form to Mayo Clinic for the lab report, lets see what happens.They just emailed me the results, anyone know how high index of 1.48 is?
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SARS-CoV-2 IgG Ab
Abn
Positive
SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibodies detected.
Results suggest recent or prior infection with SARS-
CoV-2. Correlation with epidemiologic risk factors and other
clinical and laboratory findings is recommended. Serologic
results should not be used as the sole basis to diagnose recent
SARS-CoV-2 infection. Infrequently, false positive results may be
due to prior infection with other human coronaviruses.
1 SDL
Reference Value
Index: < 1.01
SARS-CoV-2 IgG Index
1.48
Post by: Ergel on April 29, 2020, 02:24:44 PM
Yes. My order was given by Jersey Shore to a specific frum patient in the icu. No idea who though. As far as amount of blood taken, they took maybe 3oz in total. The blood that they take gets drawn out and the plasma is then filtered through a machine. Once that happens they put the blood back and draw again. They did that about 4 or five times. A little uncomfortable when they put back the blood as they also give saline which feels real cold. Other than that was a great experience.When I donated stem cells for GOL, I was hooked up to a machine for hours. Blood went out one arm and back in the other. Really strange feeling. They heated the blood so my blood vessel wouldn't restrict. I was sweating bullets so they turned off the heating. But then they couldn't get the blood back into my body, so they turned the heater back on. Sweated through the rest of the donation
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 03:04:45 PM
They just emailed me the results, anyone know how high index of 1.48 is?According to Mayo Clinic, Index of > or =1.01 to <1.21 is intermediate, so you're above that line by a decent margin.
https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/609035
Post by: shapsam on April 29, 2020, 03:07:54 PM
According to Mayo Clinic, Index of > or =1.01 to <1.21 is intermediate, so you're above that line by a decent margin.I wonder how high it goes though.
https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/609035
Post by: NTorch on April 29, 2020, 06:29:31 PM
They just emailed me the results, anyone know how high index of 1.48 is?
How did you know your Patient ID and Health Care Facility for the form?
I did my drive through LRBCOL in Brooklyn last week and got the email confirming my appointment with a four digit ID number. Is that the number you used and what was the facility you listed?
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 06:35:10 PM
How did you know your Patient ID and Health Care Facility for the form?I skipped patient ID. I did through Bikur Cholim of Lakewood and entered that as the "clinic".
I did my drive through LRBCOL in Brooklyn last week and got the email confirming my appointment with a four digit ID number. Is that the number you used and what was the facility you listed?
Got a callback within a few hours if I authorize them sending me the results via email instead of mail. They need to make sure since the email is not secure. Ummm since when is mail secure?
Post by: shapsam on April 29, 2020, 07:35:17 PM
I skipped patient ID. I did through Bikur Cholim of Lakewood and entered that as the "clinic".Same here.
Got a callback within a few hours if I authorize them sending me the results via email instead of mail. They need to make sure since the email is not secure. Ummm since when is mail secure?
So is it negative?
Post by: cgr on April 29, 2020, 08:09:43 PM
Same here.Yes. All the way. Not even .1 of an antibody.
So is it negative?
Post by: simple26 on April 29, 2020, 09:45:41 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/29/us/coronavirus-plasma-donors.html
Quote from this article https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/24/smarter-living/coronavirus-convalescent-plasma-antibodies.html
As of Wednesday, about 35,000 people have reached out to Mount Sinai, in New York, to see if they are candidates; about 6,000 have been screened for antibodies; and more than 1,000 high-antibody producers have been identified. Mount Sinai has given plasma to more than 150 people and counting, according to a spokeswoman. @hvaces42
Post by: iwlw2 on April 30, 2020, 01:55:04 PM
I skipped patient ID. I did through Bikur Cholim of Lakewood and entered that as the "clinic".Hi, had the same experience. Filled out the form, got the call today and received my results within 5 minutes. According to my report my antibodies level is 3.56. What does that mean?
Got a callback within a few hours if I authorize them sending me the results via email instead of mail. They need to make sure since the email is not secure. Ummm since when is mail secure?
Post by: KSMH on April 30, 2020, 01:57:35 PM
Hi, had the same experience. Filled out the form, got the call today and received my results within 5 minutes. According to my report my antibodies level is 3.56. What does that mean?
High levels according to Mayo Clinic
See this post
They just emailed me the results, anyone know how high index of 1.48 is?
Post by: Galitzyaner on April 30, 2020, 02:12:57 PM
Post by: NTorch on April 30, 2020, 02:24:45 PM
Hi, had the same experience. Filled out the form, got the call today and received my results within 5 minutes. According to my report my antibodies level is 3.56. What does that mean?
Me too - I emailed the form and got a call within 4 hours and the results came by email less than 5 minutes later.
Post by: sams on April 30, 2020, 02:34:59 PM
Also I write bikur cholim ?
Post by: KSMH on April 30, 2020, 02:36:32 PM
Anyone can post link to form to get results? having a difficult time finding which one I send
Also I write bikur cholim ?
If its a Mayo clinic test @shapsam has reported success requesting records direct.
Post by: yosefsv on April 30, 2020, 02:50:21 PM
It seems that Mt. Sinai and Mayo Clinic are using very different metrics (minimum of 320 for MS vs. 1.01 [?] for MC). Anybody know how these numbers correlate?I have 1:160 (tested for Mount Sinai via Refuah health Center) and according to their automated system it is enough to donate blood.
Quote from the FDA:"When measurement of neutralizing antibody titers is available, we recommend neutralizing antibody titers of at least 1:160. A titer of 1:80 may be considered acceptable if an alternative matched unit is not available."
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/investigational-new-drug-ind-or-device-exemption-ide-process-cber/recommendations-investigational-covid-19-convalescent-plasma (https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/investigational-new-drug-ind-or-device-exemption-ide-process-cber/recommendations-investigational-covid-19-convalescent-plasma)
Post by: simple26 on April 30, 2020, 02:51:31 PM
I have 1:160 (tested for Mount Sinai via Refuah health Center) and according to their automated system it is enough to donate blood.Did they say that number or you used a formula to get it?
Quote from the FDA:"When measurement of neutralizing antibody titers is available, we recommend neutralizing antibody titers of at least 1:160. A titer of 1:80 may be considered acceptable if an alternative matched unit is not available."
https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/investigational-new-drug-ind-or-device-exemption-ide-process-cber/recommendations-investigational-covid-19-convalescent-plasma (https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/investigational-new-drug-ind-or-device-exemption-ide-process-cber/recommendations-investigational-covid-19-convalescent-plasma)
Post by: sams on April 30, 2020, 02:54:22 PM
If its a Mayo clinic test @shapsam has reported success requesting records direct.Yes it’s mayo , I can’t find the proper link to form to request the results.
Post by: yosefsv on April 30, 2020, 02:57:12 PM
Did they say that number or you used a formula to get it?The automated system says as follows: "Awesome, you have enough antibodies to donate blood and help others, your antibody count is 160, someone from Mt Sinai will call you to schedule an appointment."
Post by: knowitall on April 30, 2020, 03:05:32 PM
Post by: cgr on April 30, 2020, 03:10:51 PM
Yes it’s mayo , I can’t find the proper link to form to request the results.
https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/customer-service/patient-reports.html
If you email them the form they call within hours to confirm that they can email back your results. (assuming you include your email on the form)
Post by: iwlw2 on April 30, 2020, 05:41:33 PM
It seems that Mt. Sinai and Mayo Clinic are using very different metrics (minimum of 320 for MS vs. 1.01 [?] for MC). Anybody know how these numbers correlate?I think this is partially based on a small mistake by the OP, in the link to the Mayo Clinic (https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/609035) it actually says "Indeterminate (Index of > or =1.01 to <1.21):
Repeat testing in 7 to 10 days may be considered to determine definitive serologic status." not intermediate, means something different.....
Post by: iwlw2 on April 30, 2020, 05:45:48 PM
Yes it’s mayo , I can’t find the proper link to form to request the results.For you or anyone who did with Bikur Cholim because I believe it was ll with the Mayo Clinic, here is the link, https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/customer-service/patient-reports.html, you leave patient ID blank and put in Bikur Cholim name and address and phone number. When I emailed the form to the email address on that link, I asked to have it emailed, they called to confirm, and emailed 5 minutes later.
Post by: mme on April 30, 2020, 06:55:51 PM
For you or anyone who did with Bikur Cholim because I believe it was ll with the Mayo Clinic, here is the link, https://www.mayocliniclabs.com/customer-service/patient-reports.html, you leave patient ID blank and put in Bikur Cholim name and address and phone number. When I emailed the form to the email address on that link, I asked to have it emailed, they called to confirm, and emailed 5 minutes later.what is the address and phone number of the biker cholem?
Post by: cgr on April 30, 2020, 06:58:22 PM
what is the address and phone number of the biker cholem?Google is your friend
Post by: mme on April 30, 2020, 06:59:42 PM
Google is your friendblocked on my filter so DDF is my friend :)
Post by: cgr on April 30, 2020, 07:11:45 PM
blocked on my filter so DDF is my friend :)
Bikur Cholim of Lakewood
Address: 93 Prospect St, Lakewood, NJ 08701
Phone: (732) 905-3020
Post by: mme on April 30, 2020, 07:18:35 PM
Bikur Cholim of Lakewoodthank you
Address: 93 Prospect St, Lakewood, NJ 08701
Phone: (732) 905-3020
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2020, 11:50:38 PM
Post by: Moshe123 on May 01, 2020, 12:55:02 AM
Post by: NTorch on May 01, 2020, 10:41:22 AM
(https://i.gyazo.com/bce6306e8dae561104f16451e0f3b7a4.png)
They are doing a drive Sunday in Detroit https://plasma.lrbcol.org/
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2020, 12:30:36 PM
They are doing a drive Sunday in Detroit https://plasma.lrbcol.org/Interesting that Detroit got hit so hard and CLE didn't. Any theories?
Post by: NTorch on May 01, 2020, 12:54:06 PM
Interesting that Detroit got hit so hard and CLE didn't. Any theories?
I recall the week before YT they were predicting that after NYC, the next metro areas which were expecting a spike were Wayne County (MI) and Cook County (IL).
Post by: ari3 on May 01, 2020, 02:39:59 PM
Interesting that Detroit got hit so hard and CLE didn't. Any theories?Must be all the protestors ;)
Post by: skyguy918 on May 04, 2020, 04:36:15 PM
Not sure if this just reflects lack of up to date knowledge on the consensus, or the opposite - that they internally feel they've proven these things somehow.
Post by: yesitsme on May 04, 2020, 04:43:00 PM
Interesting that Detroit got hit so hard and CLE didn't. Any theories?selfish people live in CLE :P
Post by: NTorch on May 04, 2020, 04:44:09 PM
Very strange. Went to get tested for antibodies at Mt Sinai today. The nurses said all sorts of stuff I didn't expect to hear: If you're positive but your count is low, you'll likely develop more antibodies in the coming weeks. If you've had no symptoms for 2 weeks you're not contagious. If your antibody levels are high enough you're immune and won't get it again. Etc.
Not sure if this just reflects lack of up to date knowledge on the consensus, or the opposite - that they internally feel they've proven these things somehow.
Which location?
Post by: skyguy918 on May 04, 2020, 04:52:18 PM
Which location?On the campus of the main hospital - the entrance said Center for Advanced Medicine.
Post by: KSMH on May 04, 2020, 04:56:27 PM
Very strange. Went to get tested for antibodies at Mt Sinai today. The nurses said all sorts of stuff I didn't expect to hear: If you're positive but your count is low, you'll likely develop more antibodies in the coming weeks. If you've had no symptoms for 2 weeks you're not contagious. If your antibody levels are high enough you're immune and won't get it again. Etc.Many Dr's say so. Some PPl feel its overly important to be overly cautious. If you're in a high risk group you shall ask your Dr. for his opinion.
Not sure if this just reflects lack of up to date knowledge on the consensus, or the opposite - that they internally feel they've proven these things somehow.
Post by: AsherO on May 04, 2020, 04:59:37 PM
Many Dr's say so. Some PPl feel its overly important to be overly cautious. If you're in a high risk group you shall ask your Dr. for his opinion.
Some people feel ::)
Post by: skyguy918 on May 04, 2020, 08:20:51 PM
Post by: gozalim on May 04, 2020, 09:14:20 PM
Post by: KSMH on May 04, 2020, 09:29:28 PM
Many Dr's say so. Some PPl feel its overly important to be overly cautious. If you're in a high risk group you shall ask your Dr. for his opinion.
Some people feel ::)
This is the paper they hand you. This is obviously not exactly the same as what they were telling us.And some hospitals feel too.
A person can only be normal, when many Dr's say the same and data indicates so, and your a low risk group, why not listen to medical advice?
Post by: yitz1000 on May 04, 2020, 09:39:27 PM
And some hospitals feel too.
A person can only be normal, when many Dr's say the same and data indicates so, and your a low risk group, why not listen to medical advice?
it's the conventional school of thought when it comes to viruses and immunity but since this is a virus we have never seen before, some are not willing to rely on the norms that we know from other viruses.
Post by: gozalim on May 05, 2020, 08:55:43 PM
This is the paper they hand you. This is obviously not exactly the same as what they were telling us.note that they do say for POSITIVE
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We are not sure yet wether you can potentially carry the virus and get others around you sick. Please continue to take precautions...
Post by: skyguy918 on May 05, 2020, 09:06:33 PM
note that they do say for POSITIVEYup.
Got my result today. Came back negative:
Component Your Value Standard Range
COVID 19 ANTIBODY ASSAY REPORT Negative Negative
COVID-19 ANTIBODY TITER CANCELED
Result canceled by the ancillary.
This despite my wife having tested positive in late March and having fever myself for a few days shortly thereafter. Still waiting on my wife's anitbody test result.
Post by: sillypainter on May 05, 2020, 10:19:47 PM
Post by: NTorch on May 06, 2020, 07:00:43 AM
2 kids by me have anti bodies. Me, my wife don't have. Go figure.
From anecdotal evidence it seems like younger males are more likely than people in the 30s-50s range to have sufficient antibody presence, regardless of whether the older group tested positive for the virus or even was hospitalized.
Post by: yeshivabucher on May 10, 2020, 01:18:12 PM
Post by: yitz1000 on May 10, 2020, 10:14:11 PM
Donated plasma today on the first return cycle I got really dizzy and i fainted for a sec guy said blood going back in my case was going back to fast. After that everything was perfect for rest of time. Anybody have a similar experience?Did you eat / drink well beforehand?
Post by: yeshivabucher on May 10, 2020, 10:41:43 PM
Did you eat / drink well beforehand?yes plenty of water and had a full breakfast before
Post by: mgarfin on May 11, 2020, 12:39:27 AM
Donated plasma today on the first return cycle I got really dizzy and i fainted for a sec guy said blood going back in my case was going back to fast. After that everything was perfect for rest of time. Anybody have a similar experience?
Donated too today.
Medic said they had ppl faint last week when returning blood so they reduced speed.
It went in eventful by be me. It took 38 min on the machine
Post by: yeshivabucher on May 11, 2020, 12:44:55 AM
Donated too today.thanks for the info. where did you donate?
Medic said they had ppl faint last week when returning blood so they reduced speed.
It went in eventful by be me. It took 38 min on the machine
Post by: Eb228 on May 11, 2020, 11:29:38 AM
[Tested through bikur cholim in Lkwd.]
Simple process, they try to get 650 mL of plasma [can take between 3 -5 rounds of blood filtering depending on your red blood cell count], but 130+ is enough for a basic patient.
No dizziness etc normally associated with donating blood, as all your blood is put back in you. Only hydration is needed, and they reccomend no alcohol or caffiene for 12 hours while the body rehydrates.
Post by: simple26 on May 11, 2020, 11:59:34 AM
I donated yesterday morning at the American Red Cross in Camden, NJ.do you know what happens to the blood afterwards ? Does Bikur Cholim have a word on it?
[Tested through bikur cholim in Lkwd.]
Simple process, they try to get 650 mL of plasma [can take between 3 -5 rounds of blood filtering depending on your red blood cell count], but 130+ is enough for a basic patient.
No dizziness etc normally associated with donating blood, as all your blood is put back in you. Only hydration is needed, and they reccomend no alcohol or caffiene for 12 hours while the body rehydrates.
Post by: good sam on May 11, 2020, 01:23:51 PM
Post by: yitz1000 on May 11, 2020, 04:04:37 PM
do you know what happens to the blood afterwards ? Does Bikur Cholim have a word on it?Goes into a blood bank. Don't think so.
Post by: yitz1000 on May 11, 2020, 04:05:07 PM
Any data on the effectiveness of plasma treatment?Here's one story:
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/coronavirus/2020/05/burst-of-energy-followed-infusion-of-recovered-covid-19-patients-blood-plasma-hospital-says.html
Post by: Eb228 on May 11, 2020, 05:01:09 PM
do you know what happens to the blood afterwards ? Does Bikur Cholim have a word on it?
I dont think they have a say on every donation they facilitated per say, but when someone in our community needs they are in a position to ask for whatever is available then since they facilitated so many donations
Post by: Eb228 on May 11, 2020, 05:03:06 PM
Goes into a blood bank. Don't think so.
I don't think this is being put into a blood bank, there is an immediate need for it in hospitals.
It's not blood, it's plasma theyre taking. They filter the plasma out of the blood and return the blood into the donor.
Post by: yitz1000 on May 11, 2020, 05:10:39 PM
I don't think this is being put into a blood bank, there is an immediate need for it in hospitals.I don't know about other place but by Maimonidies it goes into the bank.
It's not blood, it's plasma theyre taking. They filter the plasma out of the blood and return the blood into the donor.
This does not mean it can't get used quickly though for someone in need. First additional tests are done on the donors blood - they take a few vials before the Plasma is drawn. If all checks out OK, the Plasma can go to a donor as soon as 24 hrs later.
This info is from a maimonides paramedic that I spoke to while donating today.
Post by: AsherO on May 11, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
I don't think this is being put into a blood bank, there is an immediate need for it in hospitals.
It's not blood, it's plasma theyre taking. They filter the plasma out of the blood and return the blood into the donor.
I’m also under the impression that these plasma doses (?) are being used as part of clinical trials.
Post by: simple26 on May 11, 2020, 07:03:44 PM
I’m also under the impression that these plasma doses (?) are being used as part of clinical trials.Is the Red Cross involved in clinical trials ?
Post by: AsherO on May 11, 2020, 11:06:27 PM
Is the Red Cross involved in clinical trials ?
I was referring to Mt. Sinai/Mayo Clinic and their affiliates, not the Red Cross.
Post by: NTorch on May 13, 2020, 11:25:51 AM
I was referring to Mt. Sinai/Mayo Clinic and their affiliates, not the Red Cross.
I am working on organizing a drive in WH through CovidPlasma and Lakewood Bikur Cholim. They advised me that two vials are being taken at the draw. They received a grant from the NIH so one vial at the drive goes to be tested so that you can get into donation system and the other is going for epidemiology testing.
Post by: yitz1000 on May 13, 2020, 11:34:05 AM
I am working on organizing a drive in WH through CovidPlasma and Lakewood Bikur Cholim. They advised me that two vials are being taken at the draw. They received a grant from the NIH so one vial at the drive goes to be tested so that you can get into donation system and the other is going for epidemiology testing.
Apparently every place is different because by Maimonides they take 4 or 5 vials. There's also different regulations for different drives regarding how often you can donate. Maimonides requires 28 days in between donations while some place allow weekly.
Post by: NTorch on May 13, 2020, 11:35:18 AM
My AC and I and all 4 of our kids had the virus in mid March and BH we have all recovered. I was the last to manifest with symptoms (March 20), but my kids were about a week a head of me (albeit with milder symptoms).
I went with two of my kids to get tested in Brooklyn at the first antibody drive on April 22, a little more than a month after showing symptoms. I was negative but one of my kids was positive and he was about a week ahead of me with symptoms.
I went with a different kid to get her tested at Mt Sinai last week and got myself retested at the same time. My test was now positive (320) and I have been advised that your body keeps building more antibodies post infection until it plateaus.
Post by: NTorch on May 13, 2020, 11:36:45 AM
Apparently every place is different because by Maimonides they take 4 or 5 vials. There's also different regulations for different drives regarding how often you can donate. Maimonides requires 28 days in between donations while some place allow weekly.
Was the 4-5 vials at a donation or a test draw?
Post by: yitz1000 on May 13, 2020, 11:39:52 AM
Was the 4-5 vials at a donation or a test draw?
Oh, I misunderstood.. I'm referring to donation and now I see you meant at testing.
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 11:56:42 AM
As a follow up to the prior questions about antibodies and multiple people in the family with different results, I would tell you not to draw conclusions from the first test results.
My AC and I and all 4 of our kids had the virus in mid March and BH we have all recovered. I was the last to manifest with symptoms (March 20), but my kids were about a week a head of me (albeit with milder symptoms).
I went with two of my kids to get tested in Brooklyn at the first antibody drive on April 22, a little more than a month after showing symptoms. I was negative but one of my kids was positive and he was about a week ahead of me with symptoms.
I went with a different kid to get her tested at Mt Sinai last week and got myself retested at the same time. My test was now positive (320) and I have been advised that your body keeps building more antibodies post infection until it plateaus.
Thanks for sharing! That could mean that I now have antibodies even though my original test (taken close to 4 weeks after symptoms) was negative.
Post by: skyguy918 on May 13, 2020, 11:56:55 AM
As a follow up to the prior questions about antibodies and multiple people in the family with different results, I would tell you not to draw conclusions from the first test results.Which test was it the first time around? I don't know if there's specific medical/scientific data about it yet, but antibodies not being present at all at ~5 weeks and then present in sufficient quantity to qualify for donating plasma at ~7 weeks sounds far-fetched.
My AC and I and all 4 of our kids had the virus in mid March and BH we have all recovered. I was the last to manifest with symptoms (March 20), but my kids were about a week a head of me (albeit with milder symptoms).
I went with two of my kids to get tested in Brooklyn at the first antibody drive on April 22, a little more than a month after showing symptoms. I was negative but one of my kids was positive and he was about a week ahead of me with symptoms.
I went with a different kid to get her tested at Mt Sinai last week and got myself retested at the same time. My test was now positive (320) and I have been advised that your body keeps building more antibodies post infection until it plateaus.
Post by: NTorch on May 13, 2020, 12:20:15 PM
Which test was it the first time around? I don't know if there's specific medical/scientific data about it yet, but antibodies not being present at all at ~5 weeks and then present in sufficient quantity to qualify for donating plasma at ~7 weeks sounds far-fetched.
First test was Mayo test taken at antibody drive run by Lakewood Bikur Cholim. 2nd test was Mt Sinai test in a Mt Sinai Dr Office.
As far as the results - negative does not mean negative for the Mayo test, it just means its below the 1.01 threshold. The Mt Sinai test which is a different scale had me at 320.
Last - you are looking at dates from onset of symptoms which should not be confused with recovery. You don't start manufacturing antibodies the day that you get sick.
The first test was about a month after I started showing symptoms and unlike the rest of my family, I did not start with mild symptoms. They all had some coughing and then all had loss of taste/smell. The coughing was mild and then the loss of taste and smell hit all 5 of them over the span of 72 hours. Two days later I spiked a fever and had major congestion - which none of them had.
So when my son tested positive for antibodies the same day I tested negative, he was probably a week a head of me in the process.
Post by: NTorch on May 13, 2020, 12:22:47 PM
Thanks for sharing! That could mean that I now have antibodies even though my original test (taken close to 4 weeks after symptoms) was negative.
You are welcome! Where did you test when you showed negative?
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 12:25:48 PM
You are welcome! Where did you test when you showed negative?
Lakewood Bikur Cholim/Mayo. 0 detectable antibodies.
Post by: NTorch on May 13, 2020, 12:35:06 PM
Lakewood Bikur Cholim/Mayo. 0 detectable antibodies.
Which site?
Post by: cgr on May 13, 2020, 12:36:43 PM
Which site?
Flatbush / Chaim Berlin
Post by: skyguy918 on May 13, 2020, 12:51:31 PM
First test was Mayo test taken at antibody drive run by Lakewood Bikur Cholim. 2nd test was Mt Sinai test in a Mt Sinai Dr Office.Yeah, Mayo is obviously legit - though none of these places seem to list false negative rates. But it sounds like it's possible you already had some antibodies and they just wouldn't list that result. My Mt Sinai negative result seemed to indicate no antibodies at all. I also had a fever for a few days, and my test was more than a month after resolution of symptoms. Of course it's possible I might develop them later, but if I was truly infected when I had a fever, that seems like a very long time for antibodies to develop.
As far as the results - negative does not mean negative for the Mayo test, it just means its below the 1.01 threshold. The Mt Sinai test which is a different scale had me at 320.
Last - you are looking at dates from onset of symptoms which should not be confused with recovery. You don't start manufacturing antibodies the day that you get sick.
The first test was about a month after I started showing symptoms and unlike the rest of my family, I did not start with mild symptoms. They all had some coughing and then all had loss of taste/smell. The coughing was mild and then the loss of taste and smell hit all 5 of them over the span of 72 hours. Two days later I spiked a fever and had major congestion - which none of them had.
So when my son tested positive for antibodies the same day I tested negative, he was probably a week a head of me in the process.
Post by: Eb228 on May 13, 2020, 02:21:51 PM
Post by: ari3 on May 13, 2020, 02:25:06 PM
https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/05/take-part-in-bikur-cholim-of-lakewoods-antibody-testing-project-study.htmlI tried applying and it told me I am not eligible for the survey.
Anyone else try?
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 13, 2020, 02:29:32 PM
I tried applying and it told me I am not eligible for the survey.
Anyone else try?
DW and myself had no problem. I tested positive and had mild symptoms, while she didn't test and was asymptomatic.
Post by: cholent on May 13, 2020, 02:44:40 PM
I tried applying and it told me I am not eligible for the survey.I got a message "you are not a participant for this survey" when I selected Lakewood.
Anyone else try?
Post by: ari3 on May 13, 2020, 02:51:57 PM
DW and myself had no problem. I tested positive and had mild symptoms, while she didn't test and was asymptomatic.What time did you do the survey?
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 13, 2020, 02:59:46 PM
What time did you do the survey?
A few minutes after it opened; IIRC around 1. Probably filled up.
Post by: ari3 on May 13, 2020, 03:03:33 PM
A few minutes after it opened; IIRC around 1. Probably filled up.Just tried again and it worked
Post by: dealfinder11 on May 13, 2020, 03:03:57 PM
Post by: Eb228 on May 13, 2020, 04:19:26 PM
I tried applying and it told me I am not eligible for the survey.
Anyone else try?
The site was down a drop, back up now
Post by: Luvisrael on May 13, 2020, 06:14:27 PM
(https://poetandpoem.com/the-meaning-of-invictus)
Post by: yitz1000 on May 16, 2020, 11:37:46 PM
Post by: dealfinder11 on May 17, 2020, 10:48:07 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/ykcVrpY/409-D4-EDD-7-E80-4-D35-A6-ED-6309-A07-B8-C74.png) (https://ibb.co/t2T39zx)
(https://poetandpoem.com/the-meaning-of-invictus)
Just came back. Long lines but moving quickly. 19 stations set up and took me 3 minutes.
Post by: Euclid on May 17, 2020, 10:50:16 AM
Just came back. Long lines but moving quickly. 19 stations set up and took me 3 minutes.Do you wait in car?
Post by: dealfinder11 on May 17, 2020, 10:58:19 AM
Do you wait in car?
Nope. In line snaking up and down the parking lot.
Post by: Euclid on May 17, 2020, 11:05:49 AM
Nope. In line snaking up and down the parking lot.
Post by: dealfinder11 on May 17, 2020, 01:24:45 PM
DW just went. No line for anything. in and out.
Post by: cholent on May 17, 2020, 01:29:24 PM
Post by: justaregularguy on May 17, 2020, 01:30:22 PM
Post by: yitz1000 on May 17, 2020, 01:33:28 PM
I’m told you can donate plasma as long as you have any amount of antibodies. My question is what the avg amount of antibodies ppl are getting-it seems to vary wildly. My parents had the virus (father worse than mother) and I never showed any symptoms Baruch HaShem. My father got 216 antibodies and I have 17. It seems weird though bc my brother’s father in law who had the virus has 2800 antibodies... is there a pattern here or what?First thing to know is that there are different scales being used. You need to understand each one before making comparisons of tests, unless they are taken at the same site.
Post by: dovy2 on May 17, 2020, 02:38:31 PM
I’m told you can donate plasma as long as you have any amount of antibodies. My question is what the avg amount of antibodies ppl are getting-it seems to vary wildly. My parents had the virus (father worse than mother) and I never showed any symptoms Baruch HaShem. My father got 216 antibodies and I have 17. It seems weird though bc my brother’s father in law who had the virus has 2800 antibodies... is there a pattern here or what?Also depends on how long passes since you recovered. After time, the amount goes down (as per a nurse)
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 17, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Post by: ari3 on May 17, 2020, 04:28:12 PM
Took the test today in Lakewood. When are we supposed to get results?They told me 2-3 days
Was in and out no wait
Post by: Luvisrael on May 17, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 21, 2020, 11:57:03 AM
They told me 2-3 days
Was in and out no wait
Anyone get their results from Sunday yet?
Post by: rs242 on May 21, 2020, 12:11:32 PM
Anyone get their results from Sunday yet?They said by and of the week
Post by: cholent on May 21, 2020, 06:07:05 PM
Anyone get their results from Sunday yet?I just got mine. Negative
Post by: Jeremiah on May 21, 2020, 06:11:09 PM
Anyone get their results from Sunday yet?check your spam
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 21, 2020, 06:17:03 PM
check your spamThanks!
Post by: Jellybelly on August 05, 2020, 12:24:46 AM
I see the Frum organizations are still trying to get people to donate. They’re having locations in lkwd and in the Catskills this week, I’m just curious if it’s actually working because I haven’t heard much about it.
Post by: michael on August 05, 2020, 12:44:19 AM
Post by: grodnoking on August 05, 2020, 08:25:27 AM
I’m donating regular blood tomorrow. Not as exciting, but I keep hearing that blood banks have shortages. Blood donations always save lives.I went to donate plasma, and apparently the new machines need you to have big veins (because is takes and replaces the blood in the same needle) which I dont. So I donated blood and they tagged it for plasma (so they can draw It out later if needed).
Post by: biobook on August 05, 2020, 09:07:02 AM
Has plasma been working to treat Covid patients?It's still considered an experimental treatment, while researchers analyze how much it might help. The earliest use gave it to patients who were in pretty bad shape, as a last-ditch effort to save them, and in those cases, it doesn't seem to have helped.
I see the Frum organizations are still trying to get people to donate. They’re having locations in lkwd and in the Catskills this week, I’m just curious if it’s actually working because I haven’t heard much about it.
Subsequently, it's being used in earlier stages of disease, within a few days of diagnosis, and is showing more positive results. In Mount Sinai's first small study in May, a smaller percent of patients treated with plasma got sicker, a smaller percent died. So it wasn't a magic bullet, but it was helpful.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/coronarvirus-convalescent-serum.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article
Yesterday, WSJ described an oral report (not yet peer reviewed) that showed that those given a higher dose of plasma did better than those given a lower dose: "Patients who at three days or less after diagnosis received plasma containing high levels of antibodies against the coronavirus had a mortality rate of 6.6% at seven days after the transfusion. That compared with a mortality rate of 13.3% for patients who got plasma with low levels of antibodies at four days or more after diagnosis. That indicates reduced mortality of about 50%, the researchers said."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/convalescent-plasma-reduced-death-rate-among-covid-19-patients-study-data-signals-11596594390
But even there, the mortality rate was reduced to 36% by 30 days after transfusion.
So it seems to be an effective treatment in some cases, and the researchers are trying to analyze which patients are most likely to be helped by it.
Post by: NTorch on August 05, 2020, 10:07:57 AM
I went to donate plasma, and apparently the new machines need you to have big veins (because is takes and replaces the blood in the same needle) which I dont. So I donated blood and they tagged it for plasma (so they can draw It out later if needed).
My son donated plasma in May and was really tired after. So I arranged through NY Blood Center to have them draw whole blood and then extract plasma from my pint.
Post by: Jellybelly on August 05, 2020, 11:36:50 AM
My son donated plasma in May and was really tired after. So I arranged through NY Blood Center to have them draw whole blood and then extract plasma from my pint.Interesting, because I was told that plasma is easier to give and affects you less than giving blood because they give you your blood back
Post by: NTorch on August 05, 2020, 11:46:53 AM
Interesting, because I was told that plasma is easier to give and affects you less than giving blood because they give you your blood back
Not for him. We went to Maimonides on a Sunday in May around 10 AM. Took him for pizza right after and then on the drive home he said that he was tired and he wound up sleeping a big chunk of the afternoon. BH he is 18 and an athlete and in decent shape, so I decided as a 50 year old to just do the whole blood route.
Post by: grodnoking on August 05, 2020, 01:15:47 PM
Interesting, because I was told that plasma is easier to give and affects you less than giving blood because they give you your blood backDefinitely not easier to give. Takes longer and is more painful. You get back your red blood cells so you can give more plasma. I dont know how you feel after though because I didnt end up past getting the needle in and drawing a little blood.
Post by: Jellybelly on August 05, 2020, 02:53:06 PM
Definitely not easier to give. Takes longer and is more painful. You get back your red blood cells so you can give more plasma. I dont know how you feel after though because I didnt end up past getting the needle in and drawing a little blood.What happened? You stopped in middle?
Post by: grodnoking on August 05, 2020, 03:03:34 PM
What happened? You stopped in middle?After drawing a little blood they decided it wouldn't work.
Post by: Jellybelly on August 07, 2020, 11:16:14 AM
Definitely not easier to give. Takes longer and is more painful. You get back your red blood cells so you can give more plasma. I dont know how you feel after though because I didnt end up past getting the needle in and drawing a little blood.
I just gave and had a very different experience. I never donated blood before so I can’t compare. I did not find it painful in anyway and the actual process took 45 min, but it took around an hour till I actually donated cuz they ask you a million questions. Not sure why but they make you commit to giving twice. I would definitely donate again if there really is a need and it actually saves lives.
Post by: TimT on November 20, 2020, 08:16:41 AM
Post by: AsherO on March 11, 2021, 07:05:44 AM
Full results of RECOVERY convalescent plasma trial now available.https://t.co/T5E6ksH7CS
— Peter Horby (@PeterHorby) March 10, 2021
-11,558 hospitalised patients randomised
-5,795 allocated to high-titre plasma
-Sadly, we no saw no clinical benefits pic.twitter.com/ettS14asxZ
Post by: aygart on March 15, 2021, 01:19:46 PM
Convalescent plasma a dud?Counterpoint
https://www.njspotlight.com/video/convalescent-plasma-with-high-antibody-levels-shows-promise-as-covid-19-treatment/
Post by: AsherO on March 15, 2021, 01:23:24 PM
Counterpoint
https://www.njspotlight.com/video/convalescent-plasma-with-high-antibody-levels-shows-promise-as-covid-19-treatment/
So odd. The study I quoted showed no statistically significant improvement for patients receiving convalescent plasma. I wonder how these results can be so inconsistent.
Post by: Euclid on March 15, 2021, 01:26:41 PM
CounterpointIs that the same place that released the HCQ study?
https://www.njspotlight.com/video/convalescent-plasma-with-high-antibody-levels-shows-promise-as-covid-19-treatment/
https://www.hackensackmeridianhealth.org/press-releases/2021/01/19/hackensack-meridians-john-theurer-cancer-center-jtcc-observational-study-suggests-role-for-hydroxycholorquine-as-outpatient-treatment-for-covid-19-infection/
Post by: S209 on March 15, 2021, 03:04:37 PM