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Title: Should sports play if no fans are allowed?
Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 03:01:40 PM
PGA announced their schedule with no fans. I didn't know there was fans.  :)
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Post by: Ergel on April 21, 2020, 03:02:34 PM
Why not?
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Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 03:03:01 PM
PGA announced their schedule with no fans. I didn't know there was fans.  :)

I wonder if players would have the same energy and play at their best without any crowds present.
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Post by: SY-K on April 21, 2020, 03:04:11 PM
Home-court/field advantage wouldnít exist obviously. Would be weird
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 03:04:38 PM
I wonder if players would have the same energy and play at their best without any crowds present.
It would be great for gamblers. We can see if there really is an advantage with home fans.
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Post by: aygart on April 21, 2020, 03:05:00 PM
PGA announced their schedule with no fans. I didn't know there was fans.  :)
I didn't either until I sent a client to one.
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Post by: Dan on April 21, 2020, 03:10:32 PM
How sad would it be to watch a World Series game without the fans cheering...
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 03:13:21 PM
How sad would it be to watch a World Series game without the fans cheering...
...is that a yes or no?  :)
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Post by: elazarmn on April 21, 2020, 03:14:30 PM
...is that a yes or no?  :)
They prob wouldnít want that....
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Post by: Dan on April 21, 2020, 03:14:59 PM
...is that a yes or no?  :)
I'm kind of enjoying the games of yesteryear that they have been showing.

I don't really get how it would work without fans? What happens when one player gets it? A whole team gets it?
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Post by: grodnoking on April 21, 2020, 03:15:29 PM
PGA announced their schedule with no fans. I didn't know there was fans.  :)
How will the teams make money? They need ticket sales to pay the players, no?
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Post by: SY-K on April 21, 2020, 03:16:29 PM
As a Yankees fan saddest thing would be to watch Astros not get what they deserve from fans around the country. Theyíll be getting away scott-free.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 03:17:03 PM
How will the teams make money? They need ticket sales to pay the players, no?
They might be looking at not losing as much.
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Post by: Dan on April 21, 2020, 03:17:18 PM
How will the teams make money? They need ticket sales to pay the players, no?
TV is very lucrative.
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Post by: grodnoking on April 21, 2020, 03:17:22 PM


I'm kind of enjoying the games of yesteryear that they have been showing.

I don't really get how it would work without fans? What happens when one player gets it? A whole team gets it?

Baseball can probably be done with almost no contact (besides getting onto base and tagging people out). Football and basketball will be much harder.
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Post by: Dan on April 21, 2020, 03:17:54 PM
As a Yankees fan saddest thing would be to watch Astros not get what they deserve from fans around the country. Theyíll be getting away scott-free.
They'll still get it.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 03:18:27 PM
Made they all wear masks?
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 21, 2020, 03:20:04 PM
PGA announced their schedule with no fans. I didn't know there was fans.  :)
Trump said he canít wait for the 100k fans at the masters in novemeber!
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Post by: SY-K on April 21, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
They'll still get it.
How? Even after fans ARE allowed back, it wonít be with the same anger due to the delay, and with so much else happening in that time. Itís been almost forgotten by now.
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Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 03:22:13 PM
How will the teams make money? They need ticket sales to pay the players, no?

Merchandise, affiliations, streaming content, endorsements, etc. etc. They probably make $$ 100 different ways besides for seat sales in the stadiums/arenas.

Made they all wear masks?

Without affecting their vision/performance?
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Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2020, 03:24:07 PM
Trump said he canít wait for the 100k fans at the masters in novemeber!

Is there anyone who believes everything that man says?
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 03:51:24 PM
Is there anyone who believes everything that man says?
Did you mean anything?  :)
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 21, 2020, 04:19:43 PM
Is there anyone who believes everything that man says?
If it gives me hope about the masters happening then sure.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 04:21:49 PM
If it gives me hope about the masters happening then sure.
False hope can be very dangerous.
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 21, 2020, 04:33:51 PM
False hope can be very dangerous.
Itís Augusta National, theyíll figure out how to host a tournament.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 04:40:28 PM
Itís Augusta National, theyíll figure out how to host a tournament.
Yes but with 100k fans?
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 21, 2020, 05:57:37 PM
Yes but with 100k fans?
It wonít be the same without fans. The masters and Ryder cup are the two golf tournaments which simply canít be held without fans.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 06:06:48 PM
It wonít be the same without fans. The masters and Ryder cup are the two golf tournaments which simply canít be held without fans.
If any sport doesn't need fans it would be golf.
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Post by: Dan on April 21, 2020, 06:15:21 PM
Made they all wear masks?
That's not going to happen.

I was lucky enough to attend several NBA Finals and WS games in 2016. Man would those be sad to see without fans.
I want to watch sports, but I think my vote is no, unless they're exhibition games or tournament format outside of the regular statistics and playoff formats.
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 21, 2020, 07:02:17 PM
If any sport doesn't need fans it would be golf.
First of all, the players rely on the galleries and grandstands for sight lines and finding errant tee shots. Second of all, the tournaments wouldnít be the same without the fans. Watch tiger going down the 18th fairway at the tour championship in 2018, wouldnít be the same without fans.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 21, 2020, 09:44:03 PM
First of all, the players rely on the galleries and grandstands for sight lines and finding errant tee shots.
That's called a caddy.
Second of all, the tournaments wouldn’t be the same without the fans. Watch tiger going down the 18th fairway at the tour championship in 2018, wouldn’t be the same without fans.
Of course it wouldn't be the same but they don't need fans like baseball, football and hockey.
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Post by: justaregularguy on April 21, 2020, 11:59:26 PM
How? Even after fans ARE allowed back, it wonít be with the same anger due to the delay, and with so much else happening in that time. Itís been almost forgotten by now.
i totally agree with you-I even forgot about it myself. In general ppl arenít going to be as angry and will try to make peace after beating the virus. Such a chaval.
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 22, 2020, 12:01:36 AM
That's called a caddy.

I know what a caddy is, but Iíve heard players already talk about how different it will be without fans in terms of the risks they can take.
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Post by: S209 on April 22, 2020, 03:34:43 AM
I'm kind of enjoying the games of yesteryear that they have been showing.

I don't really get how it would work without fans? What happens when one player gets it? A whole team gets it?
If a player gets it you bench him  like any illness. Keep them basically quarantined and every player and ref gets tested before each game, itís not that many tests and they can certainly afford it.

I think ratings will spike in these times and some of the in-person revenue will be made up by the extra TV revenue. Remember, theyíre losing a fortune of money now that they wonít ever recoup.
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Post by: mochjas on April 22, 2020, 07:26:49 AM
If a player gets it you bench him  like any illness. Keep them basically quarantined and every player and ref gets tested before each game, itís not that many tests and they can certainly afford it.

I think ratings will spike in these times and some of the in-person revenue will be made up by the extra TV revenue. Remember, theyíre losing a fortune of money now that they wonít ever recoup.
They wonít be getting extra TV revenue those contracts are already done for many years to come
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Post by: Lurker on April 22, 2020, 08:18:18 AM
They wonít be getting extra TV revenue those contracts are already done for many years to come

I'm sure they can work out additional marketing contracts if they're going to have such a captive audience. Presuming their sponsors haven't gone belly up, yet...
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 22, 2020, 08:28:18 AM
I'm sure they can work out additional marketing contracts if they're going to have such a captive audience. Presuming their sponsors haven't gone belly up, yet...
Advertising isnít such a hot market currently. No one is buying anything
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Post by: Lurker on April 22, 2020, 08:39:12 AM
Advertising isnít such a hot market currently. No one is buying anything

-1. The news of the end of the world has been grossly exaggerated. The earth still turns.
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Post by: Shmobaum on April 22, 2020, 09:54:03 AM
Yes but with 100k fans?
And especially if the fans of PGA are in the highest risk bracket of covid.....
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Post by: Lurker on April 22, 2020, 09:55:07 AM
And especially if the fans of PGA are in the highest risk bracket of covid.....

They're all Afro-Hispanic Ultra Orthodox Jews?
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 22, 2020, 09:56:36 AM
-1. The news of the end of the world has been grossly exaggerated. The earth still turns.
I am not someone who believes this is the end of the world, but I do know that advertising is not such a hot market at the moment.
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Post by: AsherO on April 22, 2020, 10:09:43 AM
And especially if the fans of PGA are in the highest risk bracket of covid.....

Worse than fans of NBA?
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Post by: CountValentine on April 22, 2020, 10:41:18 AM
And especially if the fans of PGA are in the highest risk bracket of covid.....
Are you confusing PGA with NASCAR?
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 22, 2020, 10:44:36 AM
Are you confusing PGA with NASCAR?
No heís just never watched a golf tournament
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Post by: SY-K on April 26, 2020, 04:15:33 PM
NFL Draft had really high ratings [even in Goodells basement] People wants sports back! In any shape or form
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Post by: CountValentine on April 26, 2020, 04:20:17 PM
People wants sports back! In any shape or form
Watch "The Last Dance" on ESPN. Great insight to the greatest player and greatest team.
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Post by: SY-K on April 26, 2020, 04:38:39 PM
Watch "The Last Dance" on ESPN. Great insight to the greatest player and greatest team.
Heard itís great didnít get to see it yet. Still nothing like live sports  ;)
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Post by: CountValentine on April 26, 2020, 04:53:49 PM
You think the NBA will have playoffs this year?
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Post by: SY-K on April 26, 2020, 04:56:16 PM
You think the NBA will have playoffs this year?
Just saw NBA is allowing players to use practice facilities starting Friday, not sure if that means anything forsure.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 26, 2020, 04:56:30 PM
NFL Draft had really high ratings [even in Goodells basement] People wants sports back! In any shape or form
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/complete-nfl-draft-ratings-massive-espn-nfl-network-01e6w0rdayqn
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Post by: CountValentine on April 26, 2020, 04:57:35 PM
Just saw NBA is allowing players to use practice facilities starting Friday, not sure if that means anything forsure.
Only as individuals working out but it is something.
Are they still getting full salary?
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Post by: Afrages6 on April 26, 2020, 05:11:10 PM
Only as individuals working out but it is something.
Are they still getting full salary?
They will probably have to give some back at the end of the year.
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Post by: SY-K on April 28, 2020, 12:31:21 AM
Just saw NBA is allowing players to use practice facilities starting Friday
Now pushed back till at least May 8th
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Post by: yuneeq on April 28, 2020, 01:53:06 AM
I would love to see sports again but Iím not sure how. If they can make an area where everyone involved in the league is quarantined for 14 days, and undergoes testing both at the beginning and end of quarantine, I think it can work. But the testing will have to be done in a way that doesnít prioritize athletes or prevent the general population. From getting tested. If that can be done, Iím all for it, I need NHL back in my life, itís almost May and the Rangers havenít been eliminated yet.
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Post by: Proisrael on April 28, 2020, 02:06:42 AM
Why cant they just have fans keep social distancing. Fill stadiums up to 30%. No reason that wont work. Check for fever like when you go shopping.
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Post by: CountValentine on April 28, 2020, 06:18:12 AM
Why cant they just have fans keep social distancing. Fill stadiums up to 30%. No reason that wont work. Check for fever like when you go shopping.
You think a baseball stadium would be able to stick to social distancing with 15k fans?
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Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2020, 06:29:20 AM
You think a baseball stadium would be able to stick to social distancing with 15k fans?

What about when the game is over and everyone heads for the exits?
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Post by: CountValentine on April 28, 2020, 06:36:12 AM
What about when the game is over and everyone heads for the exits?
Talk about a disaster. Normally we are bumping/touching each other from all sides when leaving. So now no one within 6ft in all directions.
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Post by: Proisrael on April 28, 2020, 07:19:31 AM
What about when the game is over and everyone heads for the exits?

You let out sections at a time. There are many gates in the stadium. I am not saying it will be the same as in the past, but there is a way to get it done.
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Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2020, 07:48:35 AM
You let out sections at a time. There are many gates in the stadium. I am not saying it will be the same as in the past, but there is a way to get it done.

And the fans will just sit pretty until itís their turn to leave two hours after the game?

I donít have the means of calculating this, but what is the stadium capacity? Multiply by .3 because itís 30%. Then figure out what the minimal time to unload the 30% capacity fans is, where no two fans (at least unrelated ones who didnít come from the same household) ever get within six feet of eachother. If youíre doing this staggered you need to consider that some shlepper will lose the optimization lottery and be the last to leave.
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Post by: points 99 on April 28, 2020, 10:54:57 AM
Got this mask from Clippers, for being a season ticket holder

Other teams are starting to offer similiar masks for sale...
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Post by: Dan on May 18, 2020, 02:03:01 PM
And this is why I voted no. Who wants this anyway?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/please-step-away-from-the-baserunner-why-baseball-in-2020-wont-be-much-fun-11589817188
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Post by: S209 on May 18, 2020, 02:40:03 PM
You let out sections at a time. There are many gates in the stadium. I am not saying it will be the same as in the past, but there is a way to get it done.
In an honesty this should somehow be implemented for always, its a nightmare trying to leave a good game after itís over
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Post by: moish on May 18, 2020, 04:33:00 PM
It would be crazy if after the trade, Betts never suits up with the Dodgers
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Post by: Afrages6 on May 18, 2020, 04:36:23 PM
And this is why I voted no. Who wants this anyway?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/please-step-away-from-the-baserunner-why-baseball-in-2020-wont-be-much-fun-11589817188
The whole idea that somehow social distancing makes any sense/difference during a game is laughable
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Post by: Lurker on October 19, 2020, 10:01:47 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/eagles-fans-fighting-return-lincoln-financial-field

Winning.
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Post by: Lurker on November 13, 2020, 08:49:59 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30308543/golden-state-warriors-submit-plan-home-game-testing-allow-50-percent-fan-capacity
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Post by: S209 on November 13, 2020, 09:25:14 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30308543/golden-state-warriors-submit-plan-home-game-testing-allow-50-percent-fan-capacity
Widespread, rapid, accurate testing is the name of the game until a vaccine is publicly available.
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Post by: Lurker on November 13, 2020, 09:30:48 AM
Widespread, rapid, accurate testing is the name of the game until a vaccine is publicly available.

Accurate is the key. I was at a football game recently, outdoors, 20% capacity. It was far from safe. The SD aspect is a joke, as is mask enforcement. The only way to have fans at games safely is to make sure none of them have the virus before they come in.
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Post by: points 99 on December 22, 2020, 04:24:01 PM
Hearing that some NBA teams that are allowing some fans, are doing covid screening. Some are sending out a form that needs to be filled out 48 hours before the game, confirming that you don't have symptoms and have not been exposed. One team is calling up every fan before to question them...
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Post by: Afrages6 on December 22, 2020, 05:15:22 PM
Hearing that some NBA teams that are allowing some fans, are doing covid screening. Some are sending out a form that needs to be filled out 48 hours before the game, confirming that you don't have symptoms and have not been exposed. One team is calling up every fan before to question them...
Three teams are allowing fans.
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Post by: mochjas on December 22, 2020, 05:15:56 PM
Three teams are allowing fans.
6
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Post by: points 99 on December 22, 2020, 05:30:49 PM
6
7
cavs
grizzlies
jazz
pelicans
magic
raptors
rockets
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Post by: mochjas on December 22, 2020, 05:46:40 PM
7
cavs
grizzlies
jazz
pelicans
magic
raptors
rockets
nope Memphis backed out
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Post by: justaregularguy on December 22, 2020, 07:43:43 PM
Can they make an exception if youíre wearing a Black Lives Matter shirt?
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Post by: points 99 on April 07, 2021, 11:50:52 AM
CA OUTDOES COUMO!!!

Anaheim Ducks will be having fans for their last 5 home games this season. Their concession stands will be closed! No food or drinks will be sold, nor will they be allowed in!!! Gotta sit in your seat (masked of course) for 3+ hours and no, you cannot get a drink! (never mind that Ducks are from worst teams in league this year)

They blame it on CA rules, but other teams (outdoor stadiums) are having food including in the indoor clubs (LAFC for example). Didn't hear yet about Staples Center, which will also start allowing fans in the next week or so...