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Title: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 12:28:10 PM
While it’s debatable whether or not Biden is currently mentally fit to serve as president, I would venture to say that no one would be surprised if one day a doctor would check him out and conclude that he is not fit. Therefore I would say that it is currently in the hands of a some people ( whether it’s his family or higher ups in the Democrat party) to take him down at anytime, only because they can and no one would question them.
So my question is, what’s their game plan?
A)Do they let him stay as long as he can  and keep the current strategy of keeping him out of sight and hope they can control him while he’s president?
B) do they let him pick a VP and then sack him, and hope she’s has a better chance at beating Trump?
C) do they get  rid of him before the convention and put whoever they want instead? Would The Bernie Bros claim that he should get the nomination as he has the second most delegates?

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 02, 2020, 12:36:42 PM
Your thoughts?
You need to get a life.  :)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: YitzyS on July 02, 2020, 01:03:08 PM
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: yesitsme on July 02, 2020, 01:22:04 PM
the best path to unelected president
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: mercaz1 on July 02, 2020, 01:23:18 PM
first they get him elected and then the VP takes over for the remaining term and then the VP can theoretically run 2 more times 
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: stooges44 on July 02, 2020, 01:27:42 PM
first they get him elected and then the VP takes over for the remaining term and then the VP can theoretically run 2 more times

My thinking also
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 01:31:33 PM
first they get him elected and then the VP takes over for the remaining term and then the VP can theoretically run 2 more times
Let’s say he has a major deterioration before the  convention? Does Bernie get a chance or not?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 01:32:04 PM
You need to get a life.  :)
Why? Is this so far fetched?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Naftuli19 on July 02, 2020, 01:36:48 PM
Why? Is this so far fetched?
He is so sure trump will win  ;D
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 02, 2020, 01:49:19 PM
Why? Is this so far fetched?
Would you be surprised if a doctor said his health is just fine?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: WiddleAvi on July 02, 2020, 01:57:43 PM
While it’s debatable whether or not Biden Trump is currently mentally fit to serve as president.

FTFY
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 02:50:09 PM
FTFY
Just curious, what makes you say that? Lifting the glass of water with 2 hands or running down the ramp?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 03:08:38 PM
Would you be surprised if a doctor said his health is just fine?
Not sure possibly
The fact that he said he gets tested all the time makes me think that people around him are just a bit nervous
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 02, 2020, 03:21:07 PM
Not sure possibly
The fact that he said he gets tested all the time makes me think that people around him are just a bit nervous
If Trump can a doctor to say he is in perfect health I am sure Biden can get someone to.

What is Trumps and R's strategy? Isn't their best chance is to keep Biden in the race?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 02, 2020, 03:38:02 PM
If Trump can a doctor to say he is in perfect health I am sure Biden can get someone to.

What is Trumps and R's strategy? Isn't their best chance is to keep Biden in the race?
It would be in the Rs best interest not to follow @YitzyS 's game plan: Biden pretty much committed to choosing a women as his Veep and if she assumes his candidacy many will vote for her "bc we need a women president" even if they align slightly more to the right.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Chapshnell on July 02, 2020, 03:40:08 PM
While it’s debatable whether or not Biden is currently mentally fit to serve as president, I would venture to say that no one would be surprised if one day a doctor would check him out and conclude that he is not fit. Therefore I would say that it is currently in the hands of a some people ( whether it’s his family or higher ups in the Democrat party) to take him down at anytime, only because they can and no one would question them.
So my question is, what’s their game plan?
A)Do they let him stay as long as he can  and keep the current strategy of keeping him out of sight and hope they can control him while he’s president?
B) do they let him pick a VP and then sack him, and hope she’s has a better chance at beating Trump?
C) do they get  rid of him before the convention and put whoever they want instead? Would The Bernie Bros claim that he should get the nomination as he has the second most delegates?

Your thoughts?

He will be a PINO (President in name only). The socialist progressive mob will control him like a remote control puppet.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 02, 2020, 03:48:15 PM
He will be a PINO (President in name only). The socialist progressive mob will control him like a remote control puppet.
Who exactly will be holding the remote? Will we get to see some fights over control go public and reveal the sham?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 03:48:26 PM
He will be a PINO (President in name only). The socialist progressive mob will control him like a remote control puppet.
That’s for sure, the question is who’d be the one pulling the strings.

Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 03:58:14 PM
If Trump can a doctor to say he is in perfect health I am sure Biden can get someone to.

What is Trumps and R's strategy? Isn't their best chance is to keep Biden in the race?
It’s not a matter of getting a dr to say he’s fine. I’m saying that it might come to a point where the Dems will say it’s time to go. The question is when would they do it
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: zh cohen on July 02, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
then the VP can theoretically run 2 more times

Only if Biden lasts at least 2 years.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Chapshnell on July 02, 2020, 04:01:01 PM
Who exactly will be holding the remote? Will we get to see some fights over control go public and reveal the sham?

Could be a few people, no idea who will be involved. But i'll say this now.. I already dont believe the book that will come out in 2024 from an ex cabinet member. I dont believe ex workers books now & I wont believe it then. And the reason why I am saying this is because even if Trump gets my vote there is a very good chance he loses. The left has been woken up & will go vote en masse
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: whYME on July 02, 2020, 04:24:35 PM
The left has been woken up & will go vote en masse
Yep, whether or not they are citizens, whether or not they're still alive. And as they say in Chicago, "early & often."
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2020, 04:44:17 PM
He will be a PINO (President in name only). The socialist progressive mob will control him like a remote control puppet.
I have to admit to being surprised to see him move further left after clinching the nomination. That must be a first.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 02, 2020, 04:54:30 PM
He needs Bernie Bros.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2020, 04:56:10 PM
He needs Bernie Bros.
He also needs swing voters. Would he really lose BB if he moved to the center when he's facing DJT?
I guess his experts have decided they need BB more than SV, but it surprised me.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2020, 06:02:29 PM
Why not take the conspiracy theory further and say they’re planing on making BO VP until Biden is unfit?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 02, 2020, 06:13:12 PM
Why not take the conspiracy theory further and say they’re planing on making BO VP until Biden is unfit?
How would that work. Could he serve another term?  :)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: S209 on July 02, 2020, 06:13:38 PM
It would be in the Rs best interest not to follow @YitzyS 's game plan: Biden pretty much committed to choosing a women as his Veep and if she assumes his candidacy many will vote for her "bc we need a women president" even if they align slightly more to the right.
That worked out great last time..
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on July 02, 2020, 06:15:29 PM
I have to admit to being surprised to see him move further left after clinching the nomination. That must be a first.

I think this year's election is not about winning the centrists, it's about who can get more of their base to vote. I think we'll see record low turnout from the 20% in the middle. There's just not a lot to get excited about on either side unless you're a radical.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2020, 06:22:39 PM
How would that work. Could he serve another term?  :)
I think the 22d amendment only precludes him from
being elected
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on July 02, 2020, 06:28:03 PM
To the point of the OP, I think the game plan is to ride the super-prog wave. Put in a strong younger progressive black woman as VP to help counter all the complaints against Uncle Joe (old, moderate, racist, misogynist), prop him up through the elections and as far as he'll go before they have to invoke the 25th, then go for 8 more years with the fresh blood VP. They get to either take credit for Joe's official 4 years if they go well, or blame him if it goes south. Side benefit is that the VP may inspire enough of the base (a la Obamamania '10) to pull off a sweep of both Houses in '22.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: YitzyS on July 02, 2020, 06:44:52 PM
The question is whether or not they'll take him out before the election. If he is doing well against Trump (as he is now), they have no reason to take him out until after the election. But, if his cognitive decline starts to lead to a decline in his poll numbers, as they probably will when he starts debating, they may want to knock him out and let Kamala Harris (or whoever his their VP pick is) to lead the party through the election.

I think they are confident that given the numbers now, and bone fide candidate can win against Trump. They just don't want baggage to get in the way. For Clinton, it was the emails. For Biden, it may be his dementia. But they will be hesitant to shake things up unless they have to.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 02, 2020, 06:45:15 PM
To the point of the OP, I think the game plan is to ride the super-prog wave. Put in a strong younger progressive black woman as VP to help counter all the complaints against Uncle Joe (old, moderate, racist, misogynist), prop him up through the elections and as far as he'll go before they have to invoke the 25th, then go for 8 more years with the fresh blood VP. They get to either take credit for Joe's official 4 years if they go well, or blame him if it goes south. Side benefit is that the VP may inspire enough of the base (a la Obamamania '10) to pull off a sweep of both Houses in '22.
Even when I disagree I love your posts.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: yos9694 on July 02, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
Why not take the conspiracy theory further and say they’re planing on making BO VP until Biden is unfit?

My money is on Michelle as VP. Makes sense on so many levels
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 02, 2020, 07:42:51 PM
My money is on Michelle as VP. Makes sense on so many levels
Can I get some on that money, bet?  :)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 02, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
My money is on Michelle as VP. Makes sense on so many levels
She’d never agree to it
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 02, 2020, 08:42:47 PM
That worked out great last time..
Do you mean with Obama? Do we have any actual numbers? Based on anecdotal evidence I would agree as I know people who voted for him for bc he was black)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 02, 2020, 08:48:21 PM
Even when I disagree I love your posts.
Stop salivating! I said stop!
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: S209 on July 02, 2020, 09:41:54 PM
Do you mean with Obama? Do we have any actual numbers? Based on anecdotal evidence I would agree as I know people who voted for him for bc he was black)
Hillary
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: good sam on July 03, 2020, 02:08:09 AM
Hillary
Not McCain?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Proisrael on July 03, 2020, 02:58:46 AM
This whole Biden is up and winning mentality comes to a full stop after the first debate. As long as Biden can hide he will do well, as soon as he is gonna be on stage with DJT this race will turn in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Ergel on July 03, 2020, 08:01:56 AM
This whole Biden is up and winning mentality comes to a full stop after the first debate. As long as Biden can hide he will do well, as soon as he is gonna be on stage with DJT this race will turn in a heartbeat.
The chances of there being a debate if the polls remain the way they are are very low.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 03, 2020, 08:17:45 AM
The chances of there being a debate if the polls remain the way they are are very low.
Nah, the stable Jenius already got him to commit to 3 debates. People were saying that Biden might try to get out of the debates by possibly blaming Corona. So Trump make a big stink that there should be four debates this year. Biden’s team responded that they’re only committing to 3 not 4. mission accomplished 😂
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 03, 2020, 08:20:21 AM
Nah, the stable Jenius already got him to commit to 3 debates. People were saying that Biden might try to get out of the debates by possibly blaming Corona. So Trump make a big stink that there should be four debates this year. Biden’s team responded that they’re only committing to 3 not 4. mission accomplished 😂
Source?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 03, 2020, 08:20:51 AM
Source for what?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 03, 2020, 08:22:57 AM
Source for what?
"Our position is straightforward and clear: Biden will accept the Commission's debates, on the Commission's dates, under the Commission's established format and the Commission's independent choice of moderators," said Biden campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon in a letter to the debate commission.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 03, 2020, 08:26:17 AM
"Our position is straightforward and clear: Biden will accept the Commission's debates, on the Commission's dates, under the Commission's established format and the Commission's independent choice of moderators," said Biden campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon in a letter to the debate commission.
Was this quote before or after Trump tried getting a 4th debate?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 03, 2020, 09:15:01 AM
Was this quote before or after Trump tried getting a 4th debate?
Not sure as you never posted your source.  :)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: yungermanchik on July 03, 2020, 09:17:08 AM
Not sure as you never posted your source.  :)
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+asks+for+4th+debate&oq=trump+asks+for+4th+debate&aqs=chrome..69i57.18390j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
all of them NY slimes washington compost etc.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on July 03, 2020, 09:18:17 AM
You understand neither of them has actually been invited to any debates because neither of them have officially been nominated yet, right? I don't think anyone is really swayed by the posturing over 3 or 4 debates.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 03, 2020, 09:21:32 AM
You understand neither of them has actually been invited to any debates because neither of them have officially been nominated yet, right? I don't think anyone is really swayed by the posturing over 3 or 4 debates.
Also what they say now means nothing.
Biden camp should demand he releases his taxes before any debate or require him to wear a mask. Anything would work.  :)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 03, 2020, 09:42:09 AM
Also what they say now means nothing.
Biden camp should demand he releases his taxes before any debate or require him to wear a mask. Anything would work.  :)
Not sure that would work here, because everyone would see right through  it
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: good sam on July 03, 2020, 09:45:27 AM
This whole Biden is up and winning mentality comes to a full stop after the first debate. As long as Biden can hide he will do well, as soon as he is gonna be on stage with DJT this race will turn in a heartbeat.
Trump is not great at debates. We thought he would wipe the floor with Hillary. He did not.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 03, 2020, 09:46:16 AM
Also what they say now means nothing.
Biden camp should demand he releases his taxes before any debate or require him to wear a mask. Anything would work.  :)
That's actually brilliant
Trump is not great at debates. We thought he would wipe the floor with Hillary. He did not.
People think because Biden has many gaffes, he always gaffes. That's not how he got to where he got.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 03, 2020, 10:22:11 AM
Not sure that would work here, because everyone would see right through  it
Like you do with Trump?  ::)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 03, 2020, 10:23:57 AM
People think because Biden has many gaffes, he always gaffes. That's not how he got to where he got.
Sometimes I watch him and I cringe. Other times I see him and say he is going to wipe the floor with Trump. It is a crap shoot.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 03, 2020, 10:26:07 AM
Sometimes I watch him and I cringe. Other times I see him and say he is going to wipe the floor with Trump. It is a crap shoot.
It may very well be worth it. If Trumps comes out ahead, it's unlikely to take any Biden voters who already expected it, and Trump is guaranteed to be crass and despicable regardless. But if Biden wins, it very well may accelerate Trump's downfall.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on July 03, 2020, 10:28:30 AM
People think because Biden has many gaffes, he always gaffes. That's not how he got to where he got.

Don't give him too much credit. He got where he got because of longevity, and he only had that because Delaware doesn't like change. They have 2 Senators. They've had a total of 8 since 1949, and one of those was a placeholder when Biden became VP. That's an average of 20 years per senator, and that average will go up because the 2 they have now aren't going anywhere until Carper dies and Coons gets put on the big ticket.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: YitzyS on July 03, 2020, 10:38:17 AM
Trump is great at debates. We weren't sure he would be able to wipe the floor with Hillary. But He did .
FTFY IMO
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: tov hashem on July 03, 2020, 11:15:39 AM
One thing is for sure. They (he) should not use trumps type of Language or bullying. because trump  is best at that. Rubio made that mistake with the fingers and didn’t work well for him!
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Kobe Bryant on July 03, 2020, 11:36:55 AM
I think the 22d amendment only precludes him from
being elected
The 12th amendment would preclude him from serving as VP. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.(1) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_note-2)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 03, 2020, 11:46:24 AM
The 12th amendment would preclude him from serving as VP. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.(1) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_note-2)
Is ineligible to the office of President same ineligible to be elected?


Quote
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 03, 2020, 12:03:30 PM
The 12th amendment would preclude him from serving as VP. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.(1) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_note-2)
Nah, they don’t seem to care too much about the constitution. The fact that he was born in Kenya didn’t stop anyone 😜
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: yos9694 on July 03, 2020, 06:08:04 PM
Nah, they don’t seem to care too much about the constitution. The fact that he was born in Kenya didn’t stop anyone 😜

There are no witnesses now that can support your claim
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: shapsam on July 04, 2020, 11:30:51 PM
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on July 04, 2020, 11:32:24 PM
but we keep telling you that joe Biden isn’t expected to run the country-it’s the people around him who will prop him up
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: yos9694 on July 05, 2020, 11:50:32 AM
but we keep telling you that joe Biden isn’t expected to run the country-it’s the people around him who will prop him up

Said that about trump too... he'll be surrounded by so many competent people that he himself doesn't matter. That didnt work out well.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on July 05, 2020, 11:56:24 AM
Said that about trump too... he'll be surrounded by so many competent people that he himself doesn't matter. That didnt work out well.
it may not have worked out w trump bc he’s so controlling there’s almost nothing anyone can do.
Biden is literally unable to control on his own.
He needs to be told which reporter to call on?? Seriously??
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on July 05, 2020, 11:59:31 AM
Said that about trump too... he'll be surrounded by so many competent people that he himself doesn't matter. That didnt work out well.
What didn’t work out well? Feel free to explain

Unless you mean the Covid response which no one was expecting it got it right
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on July 05, 2020, 12:49:37 PM
What didn’t work out well? Feel free to explain

Unless you mean the Covid response which no one was expecting it got it right
can we review exactly what the federal gov got wrong in the pandemic?
The reserves were low since from when Obama didn’t replenish them. It’s not like trump used the resources and didn’t replenish.
He slowed travelers from abroad early enough that the msm was bashing him for doing so.
He signed the defense production act numerous times fairly quickly.
He put states in charge of responses pretty early on so a lot of the blame should really shift to the states.

Where there mixed messages coming from the White House? Yes
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 05, 2020, 03:30:30 PM
What didn’t work out well? Feel free to explain

Unless you mean the Covid response which no one was expecting it got it right
Not getting it right and ignoring reality are not the same.
130k+ dead and counting. He didn't get it right?  ::)
 
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on July 05, 2020, 03:33:34 PM
He slowed travelers from abroad early enough that the msm was bashing him for doing so.
He stopped some flights from China but not the real source of Europe until a month+ later. How many tens of thousand lives did that cost?
How much time did we waste and lives lost believing this is just the flu and 15 will be 0?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 05, 2020, 12:16:50 PM
Biden says he’s not showing up to the convention in Milwaukee. Was he disinvited? Is this the first step towards nominating someone else?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: skyguy918 on August 05, 2020, 12:40:50 PM
I thought for sure this thread was being bumped because of the Trump Axios interview, what with all the talk here about how Trump would crush it in the debates...
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 05, 2020, 01:49:01 PM
I thought for sure this thread was being bumped because of the Trump Axios interview, what with all the talk here about how Trump would crush it in the debates...
All Biden needs to do is just keep playing these interviews. I never seen such incompetence. Who are the idiots giving him these charts?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 05, 2020, 01:55:41 PM
can we review exactly what the federal gov got wrong in the pandemic?
The reserves were low since from when Obama didn’t replenish them. It’s not like trump used the resources and didn’t replenish.
He slowed travelers from abroad early enough that the msm was bashing him for doing so.
He signed the defense production act numerous times fairly quickly.
He put states in charge of responses pretty early on so a lot of the blame should really shift to the states.

Where there mixed messages coming from the White House? Yes
You trying to rewrite history?
He had three years to replenish what you claim the last administration didn't.
He banned travel from the wrong country. Europe was the main cause and he was months late.
The DPA was used way late. We still have shortages of PPE and some testing supplies.
He put states in charge because he had no plan.
Mixed messages? How about 100% stupidity that cost lives. Thinking this is just like the flu and 15 will be 0 cost lives. Those 15 turned into over 150k deaths.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on August 05, 2020, 05:46:57 PM
I thought for sure this thread was being bumped because of the Trump Axios interview, what with all the talk here about how Trump would crush it in the debates...
that interview was abysmal but i think he learned the hard way and will most likely do what he did the first time around- hyperfocus on all the good things he says he did and what else he has in mind for the country. hes gonna go more on the offense and less on defense
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 05, 2020, 05:54:28 PM
that interview was abysmal but i think he learned the hard way and will most likely do what he did the first time around- hyperfocus on all the good things he says he did and what else he has in mind for the country. hes gonna go more on the offense and less on defense
So he won't talk about 15 being 0 or it is just flu or the miracle drug or injecting yourself with bleach or 175k+ dead?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on August 05, 2020, 10:53:58 PM
So he won't talk about 15 being 0 or it is just flu or the miracle drug or injecting yourself with bleach or 175k+ dead?
no
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 14, 2020, 06:26:23 PM
So now that they picked Harris, what’s the plan?
Since then, they haven’t let any reporters ask Biden any questions. How long can that last for? Is she gonna take over before the convention? Or maybe they’ll wait till after the convention if they’re nervous that Bernie will try to claim that he should get it?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 14, 2020, 06:38:26 PM
So now that they picked Harris, what’s the plan?
Since then, they haven’t let any reporters ask Biden any questions. How long can that last for? Is she gonna take over before the convention? Or maybe they’ll wait till after the convention if they’re nervous that Bernie will try to claim that he should get it?
Do nothing as they have. So far it is a winning strategy.
Harris just brought in record amount of cash. I guess she excited the base and I's.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 14, 2020, 06:48:11 PM
How long will he be able to get away without answering any questions from reporters?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 14, 2020, 06:50:42 PM
That depends on the polls.
Trump got away with never releasing his tax returns.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Kobe Bryant on August 14, 2020, 06:56:13 PM
How long will he be able to get away without answering any questions from reporters?
Why can't he take questions from reporters?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on August 14, 2020, 07:10:25 PM
Why can't he take questions from reporters?

So that he doesn't raise the bar. Right now, expectations for the debates couldn't be lower. If he answers a question with a hint of competency, the bar may be raised.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 14, 2020, 07:28:31 PM
So that he doesn't raise the bar. Right now, expectations for the debates couldn't be lower. If he answers a question with a hint of competency, the bar may be raised.
We are talking about Biden not Trump.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: grodnoking on August 14, 2020, 07:51:15 PM
We are talking about Biden not Trump.
Correct.
Not sure how you got confused.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: YitzyS on August 15, 2020, 10:02:55 PM
I think they may orchestrate that Biden dies from Coronavirus after the second debate, with Harris sliding to the top slot, if he ends up being the disaster Republicans assume he will be. Right now, they don't have a reason to risk it.

Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on August 15, 2020, 10:11:46 PM
wasnt Harris the one who called Biden a racist during the primary debates? funny how she's willing to be VP for a racist!
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Kobe Bryant on August 15, 2020, 10:13:16 PM
wasnt Harris the one who called Biden a racist during the primary debates? funny how she's willing to be VP for a racist!
Wasn't the only terrible thing she accused him of.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 10:17:51 PM
wasnt Harris the one who called Biden a racist during the primary debates? funny how she's willing to be VP for a racist!
She never called him a racist. She said he wasn't a racist but keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 10:18:50 PM
Wasn't the only terrible thing she accused him of.
There was other things you Kool-Aid drinkers are going to make up?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on August 15, 2020, 10:23:46 PM
There was other things you Kool-Aid drinkers are going to make up?

She said she believed his accusers about the sexual assault allegations. IIRC, you yourself said you'd like to see if they are true before voting for him. I guess if the media isn't talking about it anymore, we can just pretend it never happened.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 10:30:46 PM
She said she believed his accusers about the sexual assault allegations. IIRC, you yourself said you'd like to see if they are true before voting for him. I guess if the media isn't talking about it anymore, we can just pretend it never happened.
It is hard to believe those Kool-Aid drinkers in this thread. Their hate does not let them think straight. The racist comment has been proved wrong numerous times but they just keep repeating it.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 15, 2020, 10:40:22 PM
It is hard to believe those Kool-Aid drinkers in this thread. Their hate does not let them think straight. The racist comment has been proved wrong numerous times but they just keep repeating it.
What about the statement that she believes his accuser?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 10:43:05 PM
What about the statement that she believes his accuser?
Once all you Kool-Aid drinkers stop making stuff up then we can have a discussion. Right now you all have zero credibility on anything you post.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on August 15, 2020, 10:47:15 PM
It is hard to believe those Kool-Aid drinkers in this thread. Their hate does not let them think straight. The racist comment has been proved wrong numerous times but they just keep repeating it.

I'm with you on the Kool-Aid drinkers spreading misinformation. I don't think anyone here can accuse me of being a Trump supporter. However, I'd like to see someone make a case for why Kamala Harris deserves even a modicum of respect after signing on to be VP for a man she believes to be a rapist. To my knowledge, she has not recanted that belief.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 10:49:16 PM
I'm with you on the Kool-Aid drinkers spreading misinformation. I don't think anyone here can accuse me of being a Trump supporter. However, I'd like to see someone make a case for why Kamala Harris deserves even a modicum of respect after signing on to be VP for a man she believes to be a rapist. To my knowledge, she has not recanted that belief.
Hold on there as now you are doing what they did. Where did she say she believes he is a rapist?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on August 15, 2020, 10:51:12 PM
Hold on there as now you are doing what they did. Where did she say she believes he is a rapist?

She said she believes his accusers. One of them claimed he raped her. You can't believe her without believing he's a rapist.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 10:53:25 PM
She said she believes his accusers. One of them claimed he raped her. You can't believe her without believing he's a rapist.
So she never said he was a rapist? 
One can believe they were raped without a rape happening.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on August 15, 2020, 10:54:25 PM
So she never said he was a rapist?
She believes he was a rapist
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 10:55:49 PM
She believes he was a rapist
You have zero credibility after making this up.
wasnt Harris the one who called Biden a racist during the primary debates? funny how she's willing to be VP for a racist!
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on August 15, 2020, 10:59:33 PM
So she never said he was a rapist? 
One can believe they were raped without a rape happening.

You have daughters. Go make that argument to them. Sorry, I'm out.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 11:01:25 PM
You have daughters. Go make that argument to them. Sorry, I'm out.
You should be out since you have your facts wrong.
She said she believes his accusers. One of them claimed he raped her. You can't believe her without believing he's a rapist.
The one made that claim after KH comment.

"In 2020, after Harris’s comments, Tara Reade also made headlines for accusing Biden of sexually assaulting her while she worked in his U.S. Senate office in 1993."
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: justaregularguy on August 15, 2020, 11:04:58 PM
You have zero credibility after making this up.
i didnt make it up i read it in an article. apparently the writer wasnt the only one misinformed about this bc every single website has a piece saying its not true so relax. i stand corrected
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 15, 2020, 11:06:18 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/437107-harris-i-believe-biden-accusers
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 15, 2020, 11:08:07 PM
i didnt make it up i read it in an article. apparently the writer wasnt the only one misinformed about this bc every single website has a piece saying its not true so relax. i stand corrected
If you listened to any MSM at all you would know it was false. Even FOX (not moronic talking heads that most here listen to) said it was false.

Now we have even went further the off deep end saying she called Biden a rapist.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on August 16, 2020, 09:11:54 AM
You should be out since you have your facts wrong.The one made that claim after KH comment.

"In 2020, after Harris’s comments, Tara Reade also made headlines for accusing Biden of sexually assaulting her while she worked in his U.S. Senate office in 1993."

You're right about the Reade allegations happening after Harris said she believed his other accusers. You're very mistaken to imply that it's possible that Reade could possibly be mistaken to think she was raped. If the contact happened, and Biden was her superior, that argument can't be made in good faith. If contact didn't happen, then it's a false allegation and not one of mistaken perceptions.

Regardless, Harris has an obligation to answer the accusation better than, "I know Joe, and this accusation isn't consistent with the Joe I know." Mind you, she didn't know Joe in 93. She also had this to say about Kavanaugh, and it should most certainly apply to a nominee for POTUS:
Quote
I strongly believe the FBI and the people in the FBI who have the experience of dealing with sexual assault cases should be charged with doing an investigation. The United States Senate needs to know who this person, Brett Kavanaugh, really is. That's the issue.

The point is, to be an outspoken advocate of the #metoo movement and to then dismiss rape allegations out of hand when it's politically expedient is hypocritical and unworthy of respect. She needs to address the allegations publicly. The following piece is partisan spin, but still very much on point:
https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-believed-joe-bidens-accusers-until-she-didnt/
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 09:22:10 AM
You're right about the Reade allegations happening after Harris said she believed his other accusers. You're very mistaken to imply that it's possible that Reade could possibly be mistaken to think she was raped. If the contact happened, and Biden was her superior, that argument can't be made in good faith. If contact didn't happen, then it's a false allegation and not one of mistaken perceptions.

Regardless, Harris has an obligation to answer the accusation better than, "I know Joe, and this accusation isn't consistent with the Joe I know." Mind you, she didn't know Joe in 93. She also had this to say about Kavanaugh, and it should most certainly apply to a nominee for POTUS:
The point is, to be an outspoken advocate of the #metoo movement and to then dismiss rape allegations out of hand when it's politically expedient is hypocritical and unworthy of respect. She needs to address the allegations publicly. The following piece is partisan spin, but still very much on point:
https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-believed-joe-bidens-accusers-until-she-didnt/
What one believes happened and what actually happened are not always the same. Kavanaugh said this himself. He believed something happened to his accuser but it wasn't him.

The point is all of a sudden we have back to back posts saying KH called Biden a racist and rapist. Both are 100% false!!! I am setting the record straight.

This is no different than the left wing nut jobs twisting what Trump said about bleach. He wanted it studied. He didn't tell anyone to inject themselves with bleach. 
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Lurker on August 16, 2020, 09:26:48 AM
What one believes happened and what actually happened are not always the same.

Sorry, but if there was contact of a sexual nature between them and Joe was her boss and she was 23, that definitely would not apply here. The point is, Harris isn't even trying to find out.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: neveryou on August 16, 2020, 09:38:34 AM

If you watch the video she said it was a "debate".

So it's ok to accuse someone falsely if it's a debate?

I hope pence uses that against her during there debate
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: zh cohen on August 16, 2020, 09:46:16 AM
Yes, Kamala did say "I don't think Joe Biden is a racist" but in the next sentence she attacked him for supporting racist people and policies. If that's not calling him a racist, please tell me what is.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 16, 2020, 09:49:00 AM
Yes, Kamala did say "I don't think Joe Biden is a racist" but in the next sentence she attacked him for supporting racist people and policies. If that's not calling him a racist, please tell me what is.
If trump said to drink bleach than Harris said Biden’s a racist!
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: aygart on August 16, 2020, 09:49:41 AM
Yes, Kamala did say "I don't think Joe Biden is a racist" but in the next sentence she attacked him for supporting racist people and policies. If that's not calling him a racist, please tell me what is.
Now do Trump.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: aygart on August 16, 2020, 09:50:25 AM
If trump said to drink bleach than Harris said Biden’s a racist!
How about all the people who were busy saying that Trump did exactly that?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: neveryou on August 16, 2020, 09:50:52 AM
Yes, Kamala did say "I don't think Joe Biden is a racist" but in the next sentence she attacked him for supporting racist people and policies. If that's not calling him a racist, please tell me what is.
To be fair, "it was a debate", she didn't mean it
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 16, 2020, 09:53:49 AM
To be fair, "it was a debate", she didn't mean it

I decided what she’s trying to say, is that it was just a debate and it was win at all cost even if she didn’t really believe it 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: zh cohen on August 16, 2020, 10:01:37 AM
Now do Trump.

?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 10:15:22 AM
Yes, Kamala did say "I don't think Joe Biden is a racist" but in the next sentence she attacked him for supporting racist people and policies. If that's not calling him a racist, please tell me what is.
So when a member says I am not anti-Semitic but attacks me for what they believe is an anti-Semitic policy they are really calling me anti-Semitic. That makes the hate on this forum worse than I thought. Thanks for enlightening me. 
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 10:17:38 AM
If trump said to drink bleach than Harris said Biden’s a racist!
Left wing nut jobs - Trump said to drink bleach
Right wing nut jobs - KH said Biden is a racist.

I guess we know which one you are.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: neveryou on August 16, 2020, 10:19:23 AM
I decided what she’s trying to say, is that it was just a debate and it was win at all cost even if she didn’t really believe it
Yup, that's a little messed up, just shows what type of person she is, that she'll lie and falsely accuse people - typical liberal and MSM
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Toasted on August 16, 2020, 10:22:47 AM
Left wing nut jobs - Trump said to drink bleach
Right wing nut jobs - KH said Biden is a racist.

I guess we know which one you are.
Who are they marketing the t-shirt to? Trump supporters.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TQGZB13/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5cuoFbJ2HNRZN
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 10:27:15 AM
Who are they marketing the t-shirt to? Trump supporters.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TQGZB13/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5cuoFbJ2HNRZN
No not Trump supporters. Marketing to those who fight racism.
Probably not one member here will buy one.  :)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: zh cohen on August 16, 2020, 10:44:11 AM
So when a member says I am not anti-Semitic but attacks me for what they believe is an anti-Semitic policy they are really calling me anti-Semitic. That makes the hate on this forum worse than I thought. Thanks for enlightening me.

Link?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: zh cohen on August 16, 2020, 10:44:50 AM
No not Trump supporters. Marketing to those who fight Joe Biden's racism.
Probably not one member here will buy one.  :)

FTFY ;-)
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Toasted on August 16, 2020, 10:45:15 AM
No not Trump supporters. Marketing to those who fight racism.
Probably not one member here will buy one.  :)
Racism? I thought that sentence was prefaced by 'Im not saying that you're a racist'.
#PhonyKamala
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: YitzyS on August 16, 2020, 10:45:51 AM
Who are they marketing the t-shirt to? Trump supporters.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TQGZB13/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_5cuoFbJ2HNRZN
I would assume that those were put up for sale when Harris was still a candidate.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 10:46:19 AM
FTFY
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Kobe Bryant on August 16, 2020, 10:54:49 AM
I would assume that those were put up for sale when Harris was still a candidate.
As soon she dropped the mirror rehearsed line, it went up for sale.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 16, 2020, 11:43:45 AM
Left wing nut jobs - Trump said to drink bleach
Right wing nut jobs - KH said Biden is a racist.

I guess we know which one you are.
The real question is, have you finally come to terms with which one you are??
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 11:45:59 AM
The real question is, have you finally come to terms with which one you are??
Not any of those two since I have said neither.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 16, 2020, 11:50:28 AM
Not any of those two since I have said neither.
You never said trump said to drink bleach??
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 11:52:19 AM
You never said trump said to drink bleach??
I said he wanted it studied (injecting bleach) which is just as nuts but he never said to drink bleach.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on August 16, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
I said he wanted it studied (injecting bleach) which is just as nuts but he never said to drink bleach.
Paging all fact checkers!
I’m pretty sure you’ve said numerous times here, that trump suggested to drink bleach
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: CountValentine on August 16, 2020, 12:24:25 PM
Paging all fact checkers!
I’m pretty sure you’ve said numerous times here, that trump suggested to drink bleach
All the haters are checking as we speak.  :)
When he says 15 will be 0 and look into injecting bleach to kill the virus he is living in another world. Not sure which is worse.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Eb228 on August 18, 2020, 12:30:42 AM
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/democrats-primary/2020/08/17/id/982483/?ns_mail_uid=0f8858f2-5bbe-4c3e-823a-df10cce160d0&ns_mail_job=DM137689_08172020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502eg8v0q

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/14/obama-biden-relationship-393570
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on March 16, 2021, 06:19:07 PM
Biden to finally give a live press conference next Thursday.
Why the wait? Did they find a double and the guy just needs time to rehearse?
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: yos9694 on March 16, 2021, 06:39:18 PM
Biden to finally give a live press conference next Thursday.
Why the wait? Did they find a double and the guy just needs time to rehearse?

Better question. Why does he need to do a press conference at all? Let him just say whatever is on his mind using twitter.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 16, 2021, 06:42:26 PM
Better question. Why does he need to do a press conference at all? Let him just say whatever is on his mind using twitter.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: AsherO on March 16, 2021, 07:20:42 PM

False equivalence. People are waiting for Biden to do this because they feel like he’s avoided the limelight. Some go as far as to speculate on his state of mind. Trump was so vocal on Trump that many suspected he was insane, but he clearly wasn’t trying to hide any of it.
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: yos9694 on March 16, 2021, 07:26:53 PM
Of course they're not equivalent. But people are enjoying the new normal despite the current shortcomings all the more because of its contrast to the prior insanity
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on March 16, 2021, 08:07:45 PM
Of course they're not equivalent. But people are enjoying the new normal despite the current shortcomings all the more because of all the free money
FTFY
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Toasted on March 16, 2021, 08:41:12 PM
Of course they're not equivalent. But people thought police are enjoying the new normal despite the current shortcomings all the more because of its contrast to the prior insanity Republican
FTFY
Title: Re: What’s the Democrat party’s plan with Biden
Post by: Kobe Bryant on March 24, 2021, 07:48:13 AM
https://trendingpolitics.com/leaked-email-the-white-house-issued-directive-to-clear-path-for-kamala-presidency-knab/?utm_source=fanclub&utm_medium=facebook