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Title: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 19, 2020, 06:21:35 PM
Surprised there's no thread on this yet...

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WELCOME! NEW CHASSIDISHE COMMUNITY IN TAMPA BAY, FLORIDA

We would like to inform the public that this project is seriously underway, and we are in the final steps of our negotiations with developers and local county officials to ensure the newcomers, the most economical, and efficient Relocation to Florida!

Underway with developer is:

A development with 2,500 homes (mix of townhouses, 40 lot, 50 lot, 60 lot single family homes) available to be completed by Pesach 2021.

We are working to finalize Exact Homes Cost and Design to include kosher kitchen, pesach kitchen, proper dining room, etc

Public facilities, Main Shul, small shuls, Mikva, School and Cheder. All within the community.
(as for the school and cheder, Limudei Kodesh will be in Yiddish and Limudei Chol will be at mandatory state level, as receiving funds from private school scholarships, as Step-Up program)

Shopping Center catered to our needs will be part of this community as well. (opportunities available)

Underway with local and state officials is:

Substantial financial assistance for first time homebuyers and primary residence buyers are being made available from local county and state officials.

Starting a business, or Relocating an existing business, purchasing grants, payroll grants, and many business-related incentives are available. Additional Incentives for E-Commerce businesses.

We have secured with Local businesses and philanthropists many good paying positions, employment opportunities, as well as small business opportunities for the self starter.

Relocating to Florida will be at an unbelievable cost, at under $30,000.00. (Down payment and moving included)

Please call or email us to set up an appointment.
We request only serious participants to book appointments as time is limited.

Email: floridamove2021@gmail.com
Residential Homes appointments call: 718-854-1217
Business Opportunities appointments call: 718-854-1217

Thank you,

Malka Taussig
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 19, 2020, 06:23:28 PM
Surprised there's no thread on this yet...
I mentioned it in another thread
I have a meeting set up for this week...  Lets see if something happens from this..
Are you interested? That will make it a bit easier for my daughter. LOL
Chasidish Kehila opening in FL.

Fill out the form and send it back, if you have an interest in it.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 19, 2020, 06:24:39 PM
I mentioned it in another thread
I have a meeting set up for this week...  Lets see if something happens from this..

Definitely warrants a separate thread IMO.

Keep us updated!
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 19, 2020, 06:25:56 PM
Definitely warrants a separate thread IMO.

Keep us updated!
Absolutely!

I will update iyh.

I really wonder if it will work out this time...
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 19, 2020, 06:27:03 PM
Absolutely!

I will update iyh.

I really wonder if this will work out this time...

Hope it will. High time we got ourselves out of the tri state area.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 19, 2020, 06:51:53 PM
I wish they could do this somewhere I drop closer. Is there no decent area within a 5 hr drive of the tristate? Pennsylvania?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yitzgar on July 19, 2020, 06:55:32 PM
I wish they could do this somewhere I drop closer. Is there no decent area within a 5 hr drive of the tristate? Pennsylvania?
The purpose is to be further away
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 19, 2020, 07:00:10 PM
There are literally no Jews there. Asking for major culture shock.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 19, 2020, 07:02:06 PM
There are literally no Jews there. Asking for major culture shock.
Not if theyre building their own inclusive village
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2020, 07:05:41 PM
I wish they could do this somewhere I drop closer. Is there no decent area within a 5 hr drive of the tristate? Pennsylvania?
Rip off the bandaid.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yitzgar on July 19, 2020, 07:05:50 PM
Not if theyre building their own inclusive village
That is what new Yorkers think wherever they go...
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikeoracle on July 19, 2020, 07:59:45 PM
Which chassidus or what "level" off chassidish is this targeted towards?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 19, 2020, 08:06:23 PM
Which chassidus or what "level" off chassidish is this targeted towards?
Wondering the same, and if theres hadracha or is it gonna be a free for all
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 19, 2020, 08:08:45 PM
I will iyh address these questions when I meet them.

But I dont think its geared towards a specific chasidus.
That would be disastrous and end up just like all the other failed communities
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: KSMH on July 19, 2020, 08:20:17 PM
I will iyh address these questions when I meet them.

But I dont think its geared towards a specific chasidus.
That would be disastrous and end up just like all the other failed communities
The only new successful communities for Jewish ppl in the usa and outside, were ones that were geared toward a specific group.

If I'm missing something please let me know.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 19, 2020, 08:21:56 PM
Yea I hope they get a good Rav/manhig
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 19, 2020, 08:25:19 PM
The only new successful communities for Jewish ppl in the usa and outside, were ones that were geared toward a specific group.

If I'm missing something please let me know.

Look at Bloomingrove, Blumingburg, Viznits in Kiamesha Lake,  would you consider these communities successful?!

Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: KSMH on July 19, 2020, 08:27:32 PM
Look at Bloomingrove, Blumingburg, Viznits in Kiamesha Lake,  would you consider these communities successful?!
I didn't say all were successful but did say the ones that were had that component to it.

Also, how do you define success?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 19, 2020, 08:32:25 PM
I didn't say all were successful but did say the ones that were had that component to it.

Also, how do you define success?
I would define success if it's a community that keeps on growing and people want to join it, plus it has their own mosdos and everything around it.
All these communities have their 100-150 families and that's where it ended.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 19, 2020, 08:34:49 PM
Hope it will. High time we got ourselves out of the tri state area.

So did you sign up as a founding member?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: KSMH on July 19, 2020, 08:34:57 PM
I would define success if it's a community that keeps on growing and people want to join it, plus it has their own mosdos and everything around it.
All these communities have their 100-150 families and that's where it ended.
My point of, the successful one's happen to be those geared towards a specific community, still stands. Its possible some failed [according to some people's designation], but the ones that succeeded had those components.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Lurker on July 19, 2020, 08:40:50 PM
I wish they could do this somewhere I drop closer. Is there no decent area within a 5 hr drive of the tristate? Pennsylvania?

Different people have tried to do versions of this in PA, DE, MD, andVA over the last 15 years that know of. A few times they got very close, with houses actually under construction, before falling apart. Many times, education was a big issue with local governments. This group seems to have reached a compromise with local authorities, so I believe they have a better chance at success.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 19, 2020, 08:44:42 PM
My point of, the successful one's happen to be those geared towards a specific community, still stands. Its possible some failed [according to some people's designation], but the ones that succeeded had those components.
I dont know which community you have in mind, but I'm not aware of any besides in Israel which you cant compare.
And we need a solution for all chasidim not just one group, that doesnt help in any way.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: KSMH on July 19, 2020, 08:46:48 PM
I dont know which community you have in mind, but I'm not aware of any besides in Israel which you cant compare.
And we need a solution for all chasidim not just one group, that doesnt help in any way.
I dont have anything specific in mind, but the general concept.

Instead of looking for new communities and fancy marketing from brokers, find a place that u can call home without the hype.

There are enough out there.

Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 19, 2020, 09:40:13 PM
My point of, the successful one's happen to be those geared towards a specific community, still stands. Its possible some failed [according to some people's designation], but the ones that succeeded had those components.
Heard of Staten Island?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yungermanchik on July 19, 2020, 09:44:04 PM
Heard of Staten Island?
That wasn't truly making a new community. It was taking over an existing YI community and expanding it.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ah giten on July 19, 2020, 09:49:25 PM
Look at Bloomingrove, Blumingburg, Viznits in Kiamesha Lake,  would you consider these communities successful?!
All of these are growing, might be a longer process, but look at KJ, is that called success?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Yehuda25 on July 19, 2020, 09:50:44 PM
All of these are growing, might be a longer process, but look at KJ, is that called success?
wild success
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 19, 2020, 09:55:12 PM
All of these are growing, might be a longer process, but look at KJ, is that called success?

LOL, you're comparing Gibbers to KJ?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: points 99 on July 19, 2020, 09:55:36 PM
wild success
was that and/or
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: KSMH on July 19, 2020, 10:07:30 PM
Heard of Staten Island?
Wasnt it at first only a specific group moving there + its next door to BP, they utilize all its services.

It can be faster to go from SI to BP then from one side of Lakewood to the other.

I would not consider that a totally new community.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mordechain on July 19, 2020, 11:23:00 PM
Is it really feasible to find 2500 families to pick up and move somewhere where they need to fly to see the rest of their families? Every Simcha , a flight? Siblings wedding up to a dozen tickets?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 19, 2020, 11:44:43 PM
Is it really feasible to find 2500 families to pick up and move somewhere where they need to fly to see the rest of their families? Every Simcha , a flight? Siblings wedding up to a dozen tickets?
I believe 2500 is a fantasy
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ah giten on July 20, 2020, 01:13:38 AM
LOL, you're comparing Gibbers to KJ?
No, Gibbers was a failure till now. But has potential now that there is a rebbi.

And KJ was also a failure in the beginning, everything takes time.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: zh cohen on July 20, 2020, 08:17:27 AM

All these communities have their 100-150 families and that's where it ended.

I don't know about the others, but Bloomingburg is over 200 and growing. The reason it hasn't been growing quicker is because of the legal troubles...
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 20, 2020, 02:34:50 PM
Wasnt it at first only a specific group moving there + its next door to BP, they utilize all its services.

It can be faster to go from SI to BP then from one side of Lakewood to the other.

I would not consider that a totally new community.
Was never for a specific group.
Your point about the proximity to BP is irrelevant to the original argument
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: KSMH on July 20, 2020, 02:39:35 PM


Your point about the proximity to BP is irrelevant to the original argument
In your opinion.
It's similar to ppl from Lakewood moving to areas such as royal grove in TR.

SI is NYC and ppl there utilized all its services at one time or another. So it's not like a totally new independent community but more like an extension of of BP...

Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yungermanchik on July 20, 2020, 02:40:05 PM
Your point about the proximity to BP is irrelevant to the original argument
IIUC He was saying that it's not truly a new community, but rather a sorta expansion of BP. So, therefore, Willowbrook is not really relevant to a discussion about brand new communities, which by large have only been successful with single chassiduses.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: dsw193 on July 20, 2020, 04:02:28 PM
I believe 2500 is a fantasy
See whats going on in orlando since start of covid.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: haltkup on July 20, 2020, 04:06:15 PM
ive found that most successful communities were built around a yeshiva
Monsey had BME
Lakewood had BMG
KJ had the Satmar yeshivah
to a lesser extent even Cleveland had Telz

in general Litvaks that move out only need a BM to keep the community feel together while chasidim(x lubavitch) must have a spiritual guide. without one it becomes a more bummy atmosphere with little hope of expansion.
The best of both worlds is when the litvaks build a strong torah foundation and then the chasidim come in and add the chesed infrastructures and commerce....
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ah giten on July 20, 2020, 05:20:35 PM
the communities that succeeded after WW2 are places that had a good leader, a Rebbi or a Rosh Yeshiva, all others went מטה מטה. AFAIK.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 20, 2020, 05:59:29 PM
In your opinion.
It's similar to ppl from Lakewood moving to areas such as royal grove in TR.

SI is NYC and ppl there utilized all its services at one time or another. So it's not like a totally new independent community but more like an extension of of BP...
From a chusids point of view Staten Island is just as new as a community as Tampa or whatever it may be. Obviously SI has the benefit of proximity just as Tampa Im sure has its own benefits. What I meant to bring out is that SI -for the chasidim- are a complete new community and was a complete success without any Rebbe or the likes.
From what I know having Young Israel there  didnt help out an iota.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on July 20, 2020, 06:10:45 PM
From a chusids point of view Staten Island is just as new as a community as Tampa or whatever it may be. Obviously SI has the benefit of proximity just as Tampa Im sure has its own benefits. What I meant to bring out is that SI -for the chasidim- are a complete new community and was a complete success without any Rebbe or the likes.
From what I know having Young Israel there  didnt help out an iota.
It wasn't a strictly YI community before the chassidim moved in took over either. There was always a pretty nice mix.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 20, 2020, 09:34:15 PM
It wasn't a strictly YI community before the chassidim moved in took over either. There was always a pretty nice mix.
Whatever mix it was, it was exotic for the chasidim and a new chasidish development.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mgarfin on July 21, 2020, 09:18:55 AM
No way in the world can you compare Staten island to Tampa

Staten island is a success, but

It relies on education from BP
It's  relies on grocery / shopping from BP
It's within short driving distance to family
Local government programs and politics are extremely known

Tampa has none of that
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mgarfin on July 21, 2020, 09:32:09 AM
On the discussion for the need of a Chasidus or a Ruv

A Chasidus can bring together people a different stages in there observance (for the lack of a better word)
In a Satmer cheder You have an extreme broad mixture of people.
That may not be obvious on the outside.

One of the biggest obstacles a new community faces is education. If it's attracts a very liberal crowd and the school is formed around that. Maybe come very hard to bring in frumer families. And the same around if it's is established around kollel guy's, working liberal guys may not want to move in.


A Chasidus for a dominant strong ruv can set a balance and allow people from all walks of life feel comfortable joining.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Boruch Parnes on July 21, 2020, 09:37:04 AM
I didn't say all were successful but did say the ones that were had that component to it.

Also, how do you define success?
bloominburg is growing   vishnitz is at its max 
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Chapshnell on July 21, 2020, 10:54:40 AM
From a chusids point of view Staten Island is just as new as a community as Tampa or whatever it may be. Obviously SI has the benefit of proximity just as Tampa Im sure has its own benefits. What I meant to bring out is that SI -for the chasidim- are a complete new community and was a complete success without any Rebbe or the likes.
From what I know having Young Israel there  didnt help out an iota.

Rabbi Pollack is an established rav there for 40+ years. A chasidishe rav
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: moko on July 21, 2020, 10:57:29 AM
Rabbi Pollack is an established rav there for 40+ years. A chasidishe rav
the Rav and his son the Rosh Kollel were very instrumental in making the new community a success.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 21, 2020, 03:52:02 PM
No way in the world can you compare Staten island to Tampa

Staten island is a success, but

It relies on education from BP
It's  relies on grocery / shopping from BP
It's within short driving distance to family
Local government programs and politics are extremely known

Tampa has none of that

Absolutely these are exactly the strengths of SI. On the flip side a house in Tampa I would guess estimate is a 5th of the price if not more..
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 21, 2020, 07:08:03 PM
On the discussion for the need of a Chasidus or a Ruv

A Chasidus can bring together people a different stages in there observance (for the lack of a better word)
In a Satmer cheder You have an extreme broad mixture of people.
That may not be obvious on the outside.

One of the biggest obstacles a new community faces is education. If it's attracts a very liberal crowd and the school is formed around that. Maybe come very hard to bring in frumer families. And the same around if it's is established around kollel guy's, working liberal guys may not want to move in.


A Chasidus for a dominant strong ruv can set a balance and allow people from all walks of life feel comfortable joining.
They're teaching in Yiddish. That's severely limiting.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 21, 2020, 09:54:35 PM
That's severely limiting.

Yes indeed, by design.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: grodnoking on July 21, 2020, 10:11:32 PM
ive found that most successful communities were built around a yeshiva
Monsey had BME
Lakewood had BMG
KJ had the Satmar yeshivah
to a lesser extent even Cleveland had Telz

in general Litvaks that move out only need a BM to keep the community feel together while chasidim(x lubavitch) must have a spiritual guide. without one it becomes a more bummy atmosphere with little hope of expansion.
The best of both worlds is when the litvaks build a strong torah foundation and then the chasidim come in and add the chesed infrastructures and commerce....
The big spike in NMB now is mostly because of the kollel.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: grodnoking on July 21, 2020, 10:14:10 PM
They're teaching in Yiddish. That's severely limiting.
How do you teach state level english studies in yiddish?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 21, 2020, 10:17:36 PM
How do you teach state level english studies in yiddish?
Just reading OP. I assume secular studies in English.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 21, 2020, 11:23:16 PM
The big spike in NMB now is mostly because of the kollel.

And the reason why it's not growing faster is bc of the prohibitive costs.

Lakewood and Ner Yisroel have built a strong network of OOT community kollelim to help grow the cities.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 21, 2020, 11:32:58 PM
Just reading OP. I assume secular studies in English.

This
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: KSMH on July 21, 2020, 11:35:36 PM
Lakewood and Ner Yisroel have built a strong network of OOT community kollelim to help grow the cities.

Lakewood, LOL.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 21, 2020, 11:42:17 PM
Lakewood, LOL.
The Premier Lakewood Based Yeshiva, Beth Medeash Govoha.....

Register complaints on hefkeevelt.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dr Moose on July 21, 2020, 11:43:14 PM
I don't know about the others, but Bloomingburg is over 200 and growing. The reason it hasn't been growing quicker is because of the legal troubles...
At this point, their legal troubles are over. There's not enough people moving there. They haven't built new houses in many years, only 1/4 of the allowed houses are built so far.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 21, 2020, 11:58:12 PM
At this point, their legal troubles are over. There's not enough people moving there. They haven't built new houses in many years, only 1/4 of the allowed houses are built so far.

I can't speak to the community at large, but I have a friend living there who's only in it for the חלק שמונה. He's planning on leaving as soon as he's able.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 22, 2020, 12:10:45 AM
I can't speak to the community at large, but I have a friend living there who's only in it for the חלק שמונה. He's planning on leaving as soon as he's able.
+1
I think a Waterbury community was built on this. What's happening there now?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yesitsme on July 22, 2020, 01:50:13 AM
I can't speak to the community at large, but I have a friend living there who's only in it for the חלק שמונה. He's planning on leaving as soon as he's able.
https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%AA_%D7%A9%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%94
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ad120 on July 22, 2020, 02:02:44 AM
No chance this ever happens for too many reasons to write.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 22, 2020, 08:04:49 AM
I can't speak to the community at large, but I have a friend living there who's only in it for the חלק שמונה. He's planning on leaving as soon as he's able.
There's an advantage there for that? Where can one find out more?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Yonah on July 22, 2020, 08:53:09 AM
חלק שמונה

What is Chelek Shmoneh? Some extra cash for moving in to bolster the community?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 22, 2020, 08:55:33 AM
What is Chelek Shmoneh? Some extra cash for moving in to bolster the community?
Took me a min To get, but keep on thinking
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 22, 2020, 08:56:13 AM
What is Chelek Shmoneh? Some extra cash for moving in to bolster the community?

If you don't know, you probably shouldn't know. Ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Yonah on July 22, 2020, 08:57:19 AM
There was a group in Yonkers some years back.

This one? https://www.lohud.com/story/news/religion/2017/02/03/yonkers-lincoln-park-jewish-center/97361298/

Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dr Moose on July 22, 2020, 09:31:53 AM
I can't speak to the community at large, but I have a friend living there who's only in it for the חלק שמונה. He's planning on leaving as soon as he's able.
Yeah, there's plenty of people who rent for a few years. They aren't really part of the new development though, they're usually in rentals throughout the main part of town.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dr Moose on July 22, 2020, 09:34:12 AM
There's an advantage there for that? Where can one find out more?
For sure. Up there it's a lot easier to get onto the list. Once you're there for a certain amount of time, you can transfer to anywhere else in the State and the benefits come along with you. 
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: gozalim on July 22, 2020, 09:46:25 AM
Don't think so. I think longer ago
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: zh cohen on July 22, 2020, 11:15:01 AM
At this point, their legal troubles are over. There's not enough people moving there. They haven't built new houses in many years, only 1/4 of the allowed houses are built so far.
They "won" but they are not fully over the fallout from the legal problems.
They didn't get C of Os on the houses they built until relatively recently. They are selling houses as quickly as they become available.
It's hard to build new homes when the developer is behind bars.

One indication that they are well established is that they stopped accepting outside kids to their school, something they had been allowing to fill up their classes.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: EliJelly on July 22, 2020, 11:28:32 AM
You can't really compare Tampa to Bloomingburg, SI, JC etc, as they all rely on NY's Jewish infrastructure. SI on BP, Bloomingburg on KJ and JC on Williamsburg. Tampa is a 4 hour drive from Miami, and even Miami lacks the facilities to accommodate a large new chassidish community. This is an undertaking on a whole new level.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 22, 2020, 11:44:43 AM
Im not an accountant and I know nothing about taxes, but I wonder if people with established businesses in the tristate will open a 2nd branch in Tampa and be able to make that their main headquarters. Or atleast buy a second house and live there half the time
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: EliJelly on July 22, 2020, 11:46:41 AM
Im not an accountant and I know nothing about taxes, but I wonder if people with established businesses in the tristate will open a 2nd branch in Tampa and be able to make that their main headquarters. Or atleast buy a second house and live there half the time
I know people already doing it, making FL their primary residence for this reason.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: zh cohen on July 22, 2020, 11:48:07 AM
I can't speak to the community at large, but I have a friend living there who's only in it for the חלק שמונה. He's planning on leaving as soon as he's able.

The name for it is שנה ופירש'ניקס. And they discourage it in Bloomingburg (for example, the kollel doesn't pay those guys).
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 22, 2020, 11:49:35 AM
Right but this might make it easier/cheaper for people to do it, and I would think its a win win for everyone,
besides New York that would lose on tax collections, but they deserve it
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on July 22, 2020, 11:57:01 AM
Or atleast buy a second house and live there half the time
This is impossible for anyone raising a family.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on July 22, 2020, 12:10:07 PM
I wonder if this is the real story behind this community?  ;) (from Purim)


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Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 01:41:44 AM
I drove to BP today and met with the organizers, I will post some info tomorrow iy"h.
Let's see if we can get some DDF'ers on board  8)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 23, 2020, 11:00:01 AM
I know people already doing it, making FL their primary residence for this reason.
Donald Trump does it.
No state income tax.

I drove to BP today and met with the organizers, I will post some info tomorrow iy"h.
Let's see if we can get some DDF'ers on board  8)
Looking forward
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Chapshnell on July 23, 2020, 12:28:35 PM
I drove to BP today and met with the organizers, I will post some info tomorrow iy"h.
Let's see if we can get some DDF'ers on board  8)

lets hear!
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ushdadude on July 23, 2020, 12:35:11 PM
Do they realize how hot it is in Tampa? Streimel and bekisha will be very uncomfortable
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Alexsei on July 23, 2020, 12:45:43 PM
Do they realize how hot it is in Tampa? Streimel and bekisha will be very uncomfortable
Replace with a shaboosdig fedora from the local JCPenney...
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ushdadude on July 23, 2020, 12:49:44 PM
Replace with a shaboosdig fedora from the local JCPenney...
do they make straw shtreimels or seersucker bekishas?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 01:50:23 PM
Disclaimer #1
This may be my longest post ever on DDF.
If this whole thing does not interest you, feel free to skip this post  ???

Disclaimer #2
I'm by no means an expert in real estate, mortgages, building new developments, etc. Please don't challenge me on these subjects, I'm just providing you the information that I received.

Intro
First of all, in my OP I mentioned its Shloime Taussig, I was wrong,  Its Rabbi Yisroel Taussig he has the Beled shul in BP.

The location of the new development is in Pasco County, Tampa FL.
They chose this location,
Firstly, because they only wanted a red state (I know FL is a swing state but red enough for our needs)
Secondly, because Pasco counties population is at around 500,000 and they have a dream of having 3 million within the next 10 years, and 50% of the residents should be working within the county, hence, they are very accommodating and helping out with what they can, to make this a reality.

Age
The age group they are currently targeting is between 25-35, as they need families with young children, in order the schools should succeed.
At the moment, they are not accepting anyone who doesn't want to live there full time
(eventually, they may build houses for people who want it as a winter home, etc. but it will be on a separate st)

They want it to be a regular erliche chasidish community, and for this, they meet every couple before accepting a deposit.

Chinuch
He is already interviewing some mechanchim who will be hired as menahel, Principal, etc.

They are going to start with one school and cheider, but eventually, as the community grows, they would like to have 3-4 Schools.

Depending on your income, you may be eligible for the school choice program, which is about 6K per child, their dream is to cover all expenses with this. (I guess they will still receive other government funds besides school choice, just as our schools here in NY)
Limudei chol will have to be at a higher level from our schools in NY, Boys will have to start learning Limudei chol at a younger age than in NY.

Kosher food
They are in talks with a few of the larger supermarkets, and they will choose one to open up a branch. They want the community to have it all just as in NY.

Housing
90% of the development consist of townhouses and single homes on 40 Lot, however, currently, there is no demand for townhouses, so they won't begin with townhouses.

A house on a 40 Lot means, your property is 40ft wide, with a decent front lawn and backyard, the house is 2600sf, with 4 larger or 5 smaller bedrooms, and a 2 car garage.  Cost is 325K [the cost is not final]
Property tax is 1% of the purchase price, then there is also HOA (homeowner's association) fees which estimates at around $200 per month. 

A house on a 50 Lot is 3200sf, and it also has a private guest suite, this will be around 375K

The 60 Lot is a house of 3400sf, they don't know the exact cost yet but it will be in the low 400K.

The developers will begin building model homes soon, and they encourage you to fly down, see the location, and check out a model home.

It seems to me like they want to start off with the 40 Lots and they are pushing for that.
 
The county will assist with a First-time Homebuyer Assistance Program, You will be eligible for a loan of 10K with 0% interest, primary Residence buyers are eligible for 97% mortgage.
They are also working on getting the moving cost covered by the county, but this is not guaranteed yet.

Community amenities
The plan is to build up a Shul,Mikva, playground, community pool and tennis court in the center of the development, and it shouldn't take you more than 12 minutes to get there from any side of the development.

Signing up for the move
If you want to go ahead, you need to put down a $5,000 deposit, $500 is nonrefundable (going for lawyer fees, etc) the rest will go into an escrow account.
Once they have 100 deposits, they will coordinate a local event, where you will meet your potential neighbors, and you will be able to decide if you want to make the move or not.
As of yesterday, they already received 30 deposits

They estimate to begin selling homes around Sep 15,( you have to purchase your lot and get a mortgage (Guess like a construction loan) before they begin building it. Once home sales begin, you have 2 weeks to back out and have your $4500 refund, at the same time, once you signed and got your mortgage, the $4500 deposit will be refunded.

The projected date to have all amenities ready and fully operational is September 2021. The first homes to go into contract will be completed by April 2021 (Pesach time), however, this is not guaranteed.

The local government is also offering major subsidies if you are relocating or opening up a new business, I won't go into detail, because this is on a case to case basis.

All in all, It looks too good to be true, on the other hand, its about time something like this to happen, and I hope I will make the right choice  :)

Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2020, 01:54:36 PM
Why FL over a purple or red state within driving distance of NY?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 01:56:33 PM
Why FL over a purple or red state within driving distance of NY?
Secondly, because Pasco counties population is at around 500,000 and they have a dream of having 10 million within the next 10 years, and 50% of the residents should be working within the county, hence, they are very accommodating and helping out with what they can, to make this a reality.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on July 23, 2020, 02:28:28 PM
Why FL over a purple or red state within driving distance of NY?
Im hoping this initiative works and then the Lakewood askanim do something similar in a closer State like Pennsylvania
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on July 23, 2020, 02:32:24 PM

The location of the new development is in Pasco County, Tampa FL.
They chose this location,
Firstly, because they only wanted a red state (I know FL is a swing state but red enough for our needs)
Secondly, because Pasco counties population is at around 500,000 and they have a dream of having 10 million within the next 10 years, and 50% of the residents should be working within the county, hence, they are very accommodating and helping out with what they can, to make this a reality.

Did you mean 1 million within 10 years?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 23, 2020, 02:35:58 PM
First of all, in my OP I mentioned its Shloime Taussig, I was wrong,  Its Rabbi Yisroel Taussig he has the Beled shul in BP.

I thought Shloime Taussig was the Beled Ruv from BP, took over when his father died a few years ago. Is that not the case?


then there is also HOA (homeowner's association)

🤮
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Euclid on July 23, 2020, 02:35:58 PM
Im hoping this initiative works and then the Lakewood askanim do something similar in a closer State like Pennsylvania
Lakewood "askanim" have way too much money invested in Lakewood real estate and infrastructure to voluntarily open a competing community. Remember Sloatsburg? According to reports at the time, the Lakewood askanim pushed hard against it.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 02:38:23 PM
I thought Shloime Taussig was the Beled Ruv from BP, took over when his father died a few years ago. Is that not the case?

I think they are brothers, guess there are 2 beleds in BP?!
Im not familiar with this at all.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 02:40:10 PM
Did you mean 1 million within 10 years?
Sorry was my mistake, their dream is to have 3 million within the next 10 years.
either way, the numbers make no big difference to us at the moment.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Chapshnell on July 23, 2020, 02:41:47 PM
Sounds very interesting! Thanks for the update! Please post more info as you get them.
Whether it works or not is to be seen but I love seeing people trying to get out of the Sodomite NYC. About time
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Banillareloads on July 23, 2020, 02:58:15 PM
I thought Shloime Taussig was the Beled Ruv from BP, took over when his father died a few years ago. Is that not the case?


🤮

Shloime took over their father's shul, his brother opened his own shul on 12 & 50 and he's the one involved with this. Btw they get along afaik.

P.S. I can see the headlines now " Florida Hasidic man ... "  :P
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 23, 2020, 02:58:46 PM
Shloime took over their father's shul, his brother opened his own shul on 12 & 50 and he's the one involved with this. Btw they get along afaik.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 03:06:17 PM
Shloime took over their father's shul, his brother opened his own shul on 12 & 50 and he's the one involved with this. Btw they get along afaik.

P.S. I can see the headlines now " Florida Hasidic man ... "  :P
Do you know Rabbi Yisroel Taussig?
I sat with him and his wife for an hour and half, they seemed very nice, but I would love to hear what type of people they are, are they liked in their shul?
Pm's welcome!
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dawie on July 23, 2020, 03:23:39 PM
Lakewood "askanim" have way too much money invested in Lakewood real estate and infrastructure to voluntarily open a competing community. Remember Sloatsburg? According to reports at the time, the Lakewood askanim pushed hard against it.
IIRC it was just R Elya Svei telling Simon Glick not to

as far as Lakewood opening new places, very hard to find the interest
As R Shmuel Lefkowitz (in)famously said his piece about pioneering ( https://nj1015.com/is-orthodox-rabbi-pushing-blockbusting-jackson-wants-investigation-watch )
There was a push to make Mddleburg NY work with a yeshiva, never went anywhere, Vineland they are still dreaming about, Egg Harbor Twp they even had a Kollel travel there
There is now a Yeshiva in Hamilton NJ with dreams of a community
Hazelton PA was a spot they tried numerous times
Florida at least has vouchers... but so does South Bend and they advertise and get nothing
 

Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on July 23, 2020, 03:51:21 PM
IIRC it was just R Elya Svei telling Simon Glick not to

as far as Lakewood opening new places, very hard to find the interest
As R Shmuel Lefkowitz (in)famously said his piece about pioneering ( https://nj1015.com/is-orthodox-rabbi-pushing-blockbusting-jackson-wants-investigation-watch )
There was a push to make Mddleburg NY work with a yeshiva, never went anywhere, Vineland they are still dreaming about, Egg Harbor Twp they even had a Kollel travel there
There is now a Yeshiva in Hamilton NJ with dreams of a community
Hazelton PA was a spot they tried numerous times
Florida at least has vouchers... but so does South Bend and they advertise and get nothing
Sometimes it's all about momentum.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 23, 2020, 04:27:28 PM
Do you know Rabbi Yisroel Taussig?
I sat with him and his wife for an hour and half, they seemed very nice, but I would love to hear what type of people they are, are they liked in their shul?
Pm's welcome!

I only know Shloime, we went to Yeshiva together.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: nucheiner on July 23, 2020, 09:45:15 PM
Sometimes it's all about momentum.
Its difficult to create your own matzav within an existing community especially if you came at their invite.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 23, 2020, 10:44:23 PM
Secondly, because Pasco counties population is at around 500,000 and they have a dream of having 10 million within the next 10 years, and 50% of the residents should be working within the county, hence, they are very accommodating and helping out with what they can, to make this a reality.

Pasco County does have a Chabad house. The shliach down there called it red neck country back in the day.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 10:46:17 PM
Pasco County does have a Chabad house. The shliach down there called it red neck country back in the day.
He told me that the local shaliach is helping him out a lot
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 23, 2020, 10:50:10 PM
He told me that the local shaliach is helping him out a lot

The Tampa shliach the S. Pete Shliach or the Pasco shliach?

There are several Shluchim I know in the area. A few are personal friends.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 23, 2020, 11:04:33 PM
The Tampa shliach the S. Pete Shliach or the Pasco shliach?

There are several Shluchim I know in the area. A few are personal friends.
Since I'm not chabad,  I didnt go into details, so I cant answer you  :)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: moko on July 23, 2020, 11:16:15 PM
There's a Chabad Rabbi at Young Israel of Tampa as well.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ad120 on July 23, 2020, 11:18:03 PM
Sounds very interesting! Thanks for the update! Please post more info as you get them.
Whether it works or not is to be seen but I love seeing people trying to get out of the Sodomite NYC. About time
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Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Tzfas on July 23, 2020, 11:32:56 PM
Sounds interesting, but why start something new so far away from south Miami where there is already a large jewish infrastructure, wouldn't it be easier to just work around and near whats already built up?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on July 23, 2020, 11:33:42 PM
Sounds interesting, but why start something new so far away from south Miami where there is already a large jewish infrastructure, wouldn't it be easier to just work around and near whats already built up?
I'm sure real estate is cheaper further away from Miami.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 24, 2020, 01:20:58 AM
Sounds interesting, but why start something new so far away from south Miami where there is already a large jewish infrastructure, wouldn't it be easier to just work around and near whats already built up?
Sounds like the county here really wants them + Miami has a clown govt + Constiction cost, taxes & regulations are outrageous.  +
I'm sure real estate is cheaper further away from Miami.

Curious if it's also to keep things separate?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Lurker on July 24, 2020, 01:51:56 AM
Sounds interesting, but why start something new so far away from south Miami where there is already a large jewish infrastructure, wouldn't it be easier to just work around and near whats already built up?

A few years back, someone tried building a community off of Ives Dairy in Aventura. The expenses were too great, and it's harder to draw people into a new place when there are so many other options nearby.

There are many benefits to building a chassidishe community far from South FL, but the biggest one is spiritual. It's not easy to keep a community from being exposed to "unholy influences" down here. If you're trying to build a somewhat insular frum kehillah, Pasco is probably a safer bet.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ad120 on July 24, 2020, 02:15:21 AM
If you're trying to build a somewhat insular frum kehillah, Pasco is probably a safer bet.
Not that it would make a difference as this community will not happen regardless, but to me geographically, DeSoto County makes more sense. It's easier to keep things insular when an area is less populated.
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Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Lurker on July 24, 2020, 02:16:51 AM
Not that it would make a difference as this community will not happen regardless, but to me geographically, DeSoto County makes more sense. It's easier to keep things insular when an area is less populated.

People need to make money, too. Gotta have a balance.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Joel2 on July 24, 2020, 08:24:29 AM
I hope this isn't true..
 I sent this to someone who knows Taussig

Quote
Its never going to happen in my opinion. Who ever knows Sruli Taussig knows why I mean.  Its another way for him to con out money from people

As always do your own DD before giving a deposit.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ad120 on July 24, 2020, 08:54:31 AM
I hope this isn't true..
 I sent this to someone who knows Taussig

As always do your own DD before giving a deposit.
I remain silent.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on July 24, 2020, 09:07:01 AM
I don't understand why anyone would rush to give a deposit. What do you lose by not giving one and only putting down money once there are enough people? It's not like you'll lose your chance.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yesitsme on July 24, 2020, 09:26:31 AM
I hope this isn't true..
 I sent this to someone who knows Taussig

As always do your own DD before giving a deposit.
he does have a history
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 24, 2020, 09:46:02 AM
I also heard these stuff but with zero information, which makes me question is it true or not.
Either case I'm leaning more and more towards waiting a few months and see what happens, as I probably got nothing to lose and everything to gain
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: flatbush guy on July 25, 2020, 11:22:41 PM
Does anybody know of a new chasidic community in Arizona?
Saw this :
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yaakov35 on July 25, 2020, 11:43:08 PM
Does anybody know of a new chasidic community in Arizona?
Saw this :
Its not a full time community.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 09:43:09 AM
I hope this isn't true..
 I sent this to someone who knows Taussig

As always do your own DD before giving a deposit.
I'm not sure what ... Means.
If you have something to say that can help other people make a decision then say it. If you don't dot dot dot then just be quite.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 09:43:25 AM
I remain silent.
Same to you
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 09:44:12 AM
he does have a history
Please complete your point that you want to Say.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 09:48:56 AM
I don't understand why anyone would rush to give a deposit. What do you lose by not giving one and only putting down money once there are enough people? It's not like you'll lose your chance.
The goal is to have people committed if everybody will wait for someone else it will never work out.

What I heard is that the goyish developer only wants to commit phase one of there is 100 people, and to show him that people are serious they are collecting deposits.

The development is anyways being built with a completion date of September 2021, there is no heimiaha  contractors involved.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on July 26, 2020, 10:04:38 AM
The goal is to have people committed if everybody will wait for someone else it will never work out.

What I heard is that the goyish developer only wants to commit phase one of there is 100 people, and to show him that people are serious they are collecting deposits.

The development is anyways being built with a completion date of September 2021, there is no heimiaha  contractors involved.
I understand that, but why should an individual put down $5k and hopefully be able to recoup 90% if he wants to back out when he can join later for the same price. If they got 100 or maybe 250 people who say they're interested and they all get together and enough of them say they're ready to move forward that would be the time to put down a deposit.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 10:18:21 AM
I understand that, but why should an individual put down $5k and hopefully be able to recoup 90% if he wants to back out when he can join later for the same price. If they got 100 or maybe 250 people who say they're interested and they all get together and enough of them say they're ready to move forward that would be the time to put down a deposit.
There needs to be a tool that are really interested and those who just follow the current.

I'm with you on part. That the deposit should be fully refundable. But you can argue that someone has to eat the cost of meeting with the developers and lawers to prepare contracts.  We are in a capitalism country after all. Capitalism believes that everything costs money.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on July 26, 2020, 10:25:14 AM
There needs to be a tool that are really interested and those who just follow the current.

I'm with you on part. That the deposit should be fully refundable. But you can argue that someone has to eat the cost of meeting with the developers and lawers to prepare contracts.  We are in a capitalism country after all. Capitalism believes that everything costs money.
Everything costs money, but if you want someone else to pay for it they need to get something out of giving you money.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 10:27:52 AM
Everything costs money, but if you want someone else to pay for it they need to get something out of giving you money.
His return will be to broker you with the developers.

I agree that it needs to be more transparency, maybe makings a event where the developers should attend. (Maybe Mendy can forward this to the organizers).
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on July 26, 2020, 10:31:13 AM
His return will be to broker you with the developers.

I agree that it needs to be more transparency, maybe makings a event where the developers should attend. (Maybe Mendy can forward this to the organizers).
He'll do the same if you wait a few months before giving a deposit.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on July 26, 2020, 10:36:17 AM
His return will be to broker you with the developers.

I agree that it needs to be more transparency, maybe makings a event where the developers should attend. (Maybe Mendy can forward this to the organizers).
It is my understanding that the developers will be attending this event
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dan on July 26, 2020, 10:41:53 AM
It is my understanding that the developers will be attending this event
Will there be a knish eating contest?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on July 26, 2020, 10:57:46 AM
Will there be a knish eating contest?
If anyone does not get that joke, you may want to get antiquated with this (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11847.msg149265#msg149265) thread.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 11:45:46 AM
If anyone does not get that joke, you may want to get antiquated with this (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11847.msg149265#msg149265) thread.
Thanks. It's a good one.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yesitsme on July 26, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
I don't understand why anyone would rush to give a deposit. What do you lose by not giving one and only putting down money once there are enough people? It's not like you'll lose your chance.
someone that wants to make it work because he cares about it and wants it to happen he will put down a deposit to make it happen, otherwise it will never workout
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 12:33:05 PM
someone that wants to make it work because he cares about it and wants it to happen he will put down a deposit to make it happen, otherwise it will never workout
At least I have someone agrees with me
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: whYME on July 26, 2020, 01:12:35 PM
you may want to get antiquated with this (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11847.msg149265#msg149265) thread.
Or at lease get acquainted.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on July 26, 2020, 01:14:15 PM
Or at lease get acquainted.

Oh the irony ;D :P
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Yehuda25 on July 26, 2020, 02:37:29 PM
Its not a full time community.
like a summer or winter only?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: fresar on July 26, 2020, 02:38:29 PM
like a summer or winter only?

Its a full time community, just starting up
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: flatbush guy on July 26, 2020, 04:24:18 PM
What do u know about it?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: chulent613 on July 26, 2020, 08:02:25 PM
To me the biggest red flag is that they say it will be ready so soon.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: whYME on July 26, 2020, 08:16:55 PM
Oh the irony ;D :P

I just find it funny how posts like this almost always seem to have some kind of typo or grammatical error.
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Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 26, 2020, 09:03:22 PM
To me the biggest red flag is that they say it will be ready so soon.

It sounds very soon bit if they have a large enough crew I seems plausible.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: chulent613 on July 26, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Anyone that thinks that they will have anything ready before pesach 2022 is dreaming.
If they actually are planning on getting it ready so fast than they will run into other major (cash flow) issues when it shleps.

Disclaimer: the above is my opinion and why I personally would stay away but it's not based on knowing any facts.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YoelFried on July 26, 2020, 11:31:42 PM
Anyone that thinks that they will have anything ready before pesach 2022 is dreaming.
If they actually are planning on getting it ready so fast than they will run into other major (cash flow) issues when it shleps.

Disclaimer: the above is my opinion and why I personally would stay away but it's not based on knowing any facts.
Please read all posts above.

The development is being built by a non Jewish developers. The goal is only to sell it for heimisha people.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 27, 2020, 12:01:53 AM
Please read all posts above.

The development is being built by a non Jewish developers. The goal is only to sell it for heimisha people.

Is that out of the script of the next episode of Verplanck? Built exclusively by non-Jewish developers, sold exclusively to the Heimishe people.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 27, 2020, 12:23:09 AM
Is that out of the script of the next episode of Verplanck? Built exclusively by non-Jewish developers, sold exclusively to the Heimishe people.
So it's not being built "specifically for the unique need of large frum families?"
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: EliJelly on July 27, 2020, 12:25:48 AM
Please read all posts above.

The development is being built by a non Jewish developers. The goal is only to sell it for heimisha people.
Therefore?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 27, 2020, 12:26:31 AM
So it's not being built "specifically for the unique need of large frum families?"

Isn't flipping real estate a unique need of large frum families?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 27, 2020, 12:32:32 AM
Isn't flipping real estate a unique need of large frum families?
Yes, but big plus if they can also advertise using the quintessential line.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 27, 2020, 09:54:05 PM
ויישן ויחלום שנית
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: thebudgetdeals on July 27, 2020, 11:06:18 PM
ויישן ויחלום שנית
pls............ we need more parking spaces in BP! need to push ppl to make the move for our "MUTUAL" benefit
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 27, 2020, 11:39:02 PM
pls............ we need more parking spaces in BP! need to push ppl to make the move for our "MUTUAL" benefit

And who do you think will be taking their place in BP? Some tree-hugging yuppie? If that happens you'll have even less parking and more congestion due to bike lanes and parking spots being appropriated to Citi Bike.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 27, 2020, 11:42:08 PM
pls............ we need more parking spaces in BP! need to push ppl to make the move for our "MUTUAL" benefit
Exactly. So lets stop dreaming and be realistic...think Monsey, Lakewood, Staten Island and the likes.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Chapshnell on July 28, 2020, 11:36:05 AM
Exactly. So lets stop dreaming and be realistic...think Monsey, Lakewood, Staten Island and the likes.

That already exists, options are always good
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 28, 2020, 02:39:45 PM
That already exists, options are always good
Options yes. Dreams no!
Back in the days -between others- there was going to be a new Middletown community developed here in upstate NY. I personally know people who gave down payments...its time for people to wake up and stop dreaming.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: daybyday on July 28, 2020, 06:10:05 PM
IMO the biggest problem with these very out of town communities is that usually there are almost no economic infrastructure to support the simple families who would live there.
Yes there will be some people who can live off of a remote amazon selling business but the average young person would have an extremely hard time finding someone who would employ them at a decent salary.

In the tri-state area a motivated young guy with little education can find someone who would start them off at a decent salary and they can work their way up to making a good salary. In these far out of town communities these type of opportunities are much less common.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: moko on July 28, 2020, 06:24:14 PM
IMO the biggest problem with these very out of town communities is that usually there are almost no economic infrastructure to support the simple families who would live there.
Yes there will be some people who can live off of a remote amazon selling business but the average young person would have an extremely hard time finding someone who would employ them at a decent salary.

In the tri-state area a motivated young guy with little education can find someone who would start them off at a decent salary and they can work their way up to making a good salary. In these far out of town communities these type of opportunities are much less common.
what do you call decent salary?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: thebudgetdeals on July 29, 2020, 12:08:28 AM
what do you call decent salary?
HAMASPIK, YELED VYALDA, and all other multiple organizations which provide payrolls to 1000's of heimishe families (YES LIBERAL NY FROM OUR TAXES BUT ENDS UP IN HEIMISHE FAMILIES POCKETS)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Joel2 on July 29, 2020, 12:21:09 AM
HAMASPIK, YELED VYALDA, and all other multiple organizations which provide payrolls to 1000's of heimishe families (YES LIBERAL NY FROM OUR TAXES BUT ENDS UP IN HEIMISHE FAMILIES POCKETS)
IiRC they are paid from insurance not the Gov (taxes)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: thebudgetdeals on July 29, 2020, 12:25:03 AM
IiRC they are paid from insurance not the Gov (taxes)
-1,000,000
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: thebudgetdeals on July 29, 2020, 12:28:23 AM
-1,000,000
And even the part that comes from insurance, only NYS requires insurance companies to pay for all those stuff. How many therapist agencies can you find in NJ? Does Hamaspik or any similar have any offices in NJ?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: moko on July 29, 2020, 06:52:45 AM
HAMASPIK, YELED VYALDA, and all other multiple organizations which provide payrolls to 1000's of heimishe families (YES LIBERAL NY FROM OUR TAXES BUT ENDS UP IN HEIMISHE FAMILIES POCKETS)
what's the hourly wage?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Yehuda25 on July 29, 2020, 11:11:15 AM
HAMASPIK, YELED VYALDA, and all other multiple organizations which provide payrolls to 1000's of heimishe families (YES LIBERAL NY FROM OUR TAXES BUT ENDS UP IN HEIMISHE FAMILIES POCKETS)
+1
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Yehuda25 on July 29, 2020, 11:17:05 AM
what's the hourly wage?
idk exactly, but the biggest thing is no education needed. Regardless the OPs point is spot on, many of us complain about being in a blue state, and it's true there are definitely downsides to it however there are many people in our community that rely heavily on either programs that are unique (read very profitable etc) to the liberal states, or their business do (social services programs, nursing homes threapy etc).
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: whYME on July 29, 2020, 11:35:49 AM
IiRC they are paid from insurance not the Gov (taxes)
Well do you consider medicaid to be insurance or gov/taxes?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Yonah on July 29, 2020, 11:37:07 AM
IMO the biggest problem with these very out of town communities is that usually there are almost no economic infrastructure to support the simple families who would live there.
Yes there will be some people who can live off of a remote amazon selling business but the average young person would have an extremely hard time finding someone who would employ them at a decent salary.

In the tri-state area a motivated young guy with little education can find someone who would start them off at a decent salary and they can work their way up to making a good salary. In these far out of town communities these type of opportunities are much less common.

I am a little confused by this. Tampa seems to be a city on the upswing... I imagine that someone, even with limited skill could find a decent job with room for growth -

or

- Is it that people moving here are only willing to work in "Heimishe" jobs? If that's the case, then why are you moving to Tampa?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 29, 2020, 12:06:47 PM
Well do you consider medicaid to be insurance or gov/taxes?

Yes.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: lakewood34 on July 29, 2020, 01:05:00 PM
It is on the front page of ami living this week

the article claims 500 committed people boy did the commitments pile on in the last few days  :)

I'm just curious What is in it for the pioneering rabbi and rebbetzin  is it lshem shamayim   or do they have a financial incentive from a developer builder etc.  or is it the opportunity to be the main  mashpia on a new community or something else
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 29, 2020, 01:12:45 PM
front page of ami living this week

the article claims 500 committed people boy did the commitments pile on in the last few days  :)

What is in it for the pioneering rabbi and rebbetzin  is it lshem shamayim   or do they have a financial incentive from a developer builder etc.
Lshem shumayim
Please ping me once the commitments materialize
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: EliJelly on July 29, 2020, 01:14:32 PM
Lshem shunayim
Please ping me once the commitments materialize
You gotta bolden your "n" in there
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: thebudgetdeals on July 29, 2020, 01:40:37 PM
It is on the front page of ami living this week

the article claims 500 committed people boy did the commitments pile on in the last few days  :)

I'm just curious What is in it for the pioneering rabbi and rebbetzin  is it lshem shamayim   or do they have a financial incentive from a developer builder etc.  or is it the opportunity to be the main  mashpia on a new community or something else
I hope they are in for business reasons. The only way it should succeed is with someone having a financial gain on this
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mushkovits on July 29, 2020, 01:55:55 PM
You gotta bolden your "n" in there
I removed it!
Does anyone really care about  motives? I care about the results...history for these type of things happen to not have the desired results
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: EliJelly on July 29, 2020, 02:19:21 PM
I removed it!
Does anyone really care about  motives? I care about the results...history for these type of things happen to not have the desired results
Oh thought it was intentionally. A combo of both motives
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on July 29, 2020, 03:03:11 PM
It is on the front page of ami living this week

the article claims 500 committed people boy did the commitments pile on in the last few days  :)

I'm just curious What is in it for the pioneering rabbi and rebbetzin  is it lshem shamayim   or do they have a financial incentive from a developer builder etc.  or is it the opportunity to be the main  mashpia on a new community or something else

What percentage of the print Ami magazine isn't paid for?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: daybyday on July 29, 2020, 03:10:14 PM
What percentage of the print Ami magazine isn't paid for?
Maybe the page numbers?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yakovg on July 29, 2020, 03:11:45 PM
It is on the front page of ami living this week

the article claims 500 committed people boy did the commitments pile on in the last few days  :)

I'm just curious What is in it for the pioneering rabbi and rebbetzin  is it lshem shamayim   or do they have a financial incentive from a developer builder etc.  or is it the opportunity to be the main  mashpia on a new community or something else

Please copy - paste
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Chapshnell on July 29, 2020, 04:08:22 PM
I hope they are in for business reasons. The only way it should succeed is with someone having a financial gain on this

THIS!
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: chilugutbaum on July 29, 2020, 04:16:23 PM
What percentage of the print Ami magazine isn't paid for?

0%.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Joel2 on July 29, 2020, 05:03:52 PM


I'm just curious What is in it for the pioneering rabbi and rebbetzin  is it lshem shamayim   or do they have a financial incentive from a developer builder etc.  or is it the opportunity to be the main  mashpia on a new community or something else

I wondered the same, why is he specifically interested in opening this community while backing from organizations/philanthropist who actually have a better chance funding and getting momentum to get this rolling?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: efflpetzel on August 02, 2020, 10:21:55 AM
I found the Ami article to be very vague, no pictures, no plans, they didnt even write where in Tampa.

Id love for this to happen but it seems like a pipe dream
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2020, 10:23:48 AM
I found the Ami article to be very vague, no pictures, no plans, they didnt even write where in Tampa.

Id love for this to happen but it seems like a pipe dream
Ami also wrote that @Something Fishy's best Antarctica pictures were the drone pics (that he didn't take)

I wouldn't base anything on that.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on August 02, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
Ami also wrote that @Something Fishy's best Antarctica pictures were the drone pics (that he didn't take)

I wouldn't base anything on that.

They aren't paid for accurate reporting. They are paid for selling magazines that will sell ads (which some of the articles are, in the first place).
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2020, 11:18:25 AM
AKA, The Prophet exists to sell itself, you silly girl
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: BP16 on August 02, 2020, 03:27:38 PM
I found the Ami article to be very vague, no pictures, no plans, they didnt even write where in Tampa.

Id love for this to happen but it seems like a pipe dream
I think she did say where in Tampa but yes pictures would make it more realistic, but they claim they have 500 people committed so I guess no pictures needed.     
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2020, 04:33:51 PM
I think she did say where in Tampa but yes pictures would make it more realistic, but they claim they have 500 people committed so I guess no pictures needed.   
The 500 people are just applications, which means nothing.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: efflpetzel on August 02, 2020, 06:23:58 PM
I just found it really strange that the article didnt include a site map, site renderings or models of the proposed houses.

A B Cs of marketing
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: thebudgetdeals on August 02, 2020, 11:47:39 PM
I just found it really strange that the article didnt include a site map, site renderings or models of the proposed houses.

A B Cs of marketing
10000%
If there could be 10+posts on DDFS about this AMI article than its fully paid up......
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on August 03, 2020, 11:03:34 PM
I wonder if this is the real story behind this community?  ;) (from Purim)


(https://i.postimg.cc/fbNVd1CL/Florida-Community-Yated-Purim-2020.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xX6jDxWD)
Just got this picture on a couple WhatsApp chats and theyre all trying to figure out if its true 🙄
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on August 04, 2020, 05:32:54 PM
Just got this picture on a couple WhatsApp chats and theyre all trying to figure out if its true 🙄
Its from the same page as this, so if its true, this also must be...
And Dan makes headlines again in the Purim news section of Yated.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yesitsme on August 04, 2020, 09:30:21 PM
Just got this sms
Quote
Sheldon is giving 5000 homes for BMG
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on August 04, 2020, 09:48:16 PM
Just got this sms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ah giten on August 07, 2020, 02:47:13 AM
10 people, or rather an extended family just picked themselves up and left to.... Indiana.

It started with vaccine requirements here in NYC, and ended with common-core (don't ask me to explain the problem)...

1 of the people were still looking for a Sefer Torah for Shabbos, as of 2 days ago....

I guess in Covid times, anything is normal.

Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Euclid on August 07, 2020, 03:09:56 AM
10 people, or rather an extended family just picked themselves up and left to.... Indiana.

It started with vaccine requirements here in NYC, and ended with common-core (don't ask me to explain the problem)...

1 of the people were still looking for a Sefer Torah for Shabbos, as of 2 days ago....

I guess in Covid times, anything is normal.
Where in Indiana? There's a very well established community in South Bend already.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ah giten on August 07, 2020, 03:21:21 AM
Where in Indiana? There's a very well established community in South Bend already.
They're using a Mikva fro MivakUSA abt 45 min away, thats all I know.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Jellybelly on August 07, 2020, 08:18:43 AM
10 people, or rather an extended family just picked themselves up and left to.... Indiana.

It started with vaccine requirements here in NYC, and ended with common-core (don't ask me to explain the problem)...

1 of the people were still looking for a Sefer Torah for Shabbos, as of 2 days ago....

I guess in Covid times, anything is normal.
So its anti-vaxxers?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ExGingi on August 07, 2020, 08:21:41 AM
So its anti-vaxxers?

Why do we have to label everyone?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: aygart on August 07, 2020, 08:32:09 AM
Why does everyone label themselves?

FTFY
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: gozalim on August 07, 2020, 09:33:17 AM
Why do we have to label everyone?
to explain that lack of cinuch options wasn't an issue, as they have none here either
/s
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: drosenberg88429 on August 07, 2020, 12:43:43 PM
10 people, or rather an extended family just picked themselves up and left to.... Indiana.

It started with vaccine requirements here in NYC, and ended with common-core (don't ask me to explain the problem)...

1 of the people were still looking for a Sefer Torah for Shabbos, as of 2 days ago....

I guess in Covid times, anything is normal.

Sefer Torah? Indiana has a very nice Jewish community in South Bend (aside from being under 2 hours from Chicago). It's not exactly North Dakota, as far as being in the sticks goes.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on August 07, 2020, 12:46:06 PM
Sefer Torah? Indiana has a very nice Jewish community in South Bend (aside from being under 2 hours from Chicago). It's not exactly North Dakota, as far as being in the sticks goes.
You still need someone willing to lend you a sefer torah for a while.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: BP16 on August 31, 2020, 01:29:07 PM
Haven't heard from this in a while, So what happened sold out?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: mendyt on September 03, 2020, 12:14:17 PM
TAMPA COMMUNITY UPDATE



PLEASE NOTE A DATE CORRECTION:

Our upcoming event is Scheduled for

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2020.

Exact details of timing will be posted closer to the event.

Mark your calendars accordingly.





We just returned from an eventful week in Tampa and would like to share it with all of you.



WE ARE BRINGING YOU A BEAUTIFUL HOME,

PLUS AMENITES TO LIVE A CHASSIDSHE LIFE WITHOUT COMPROMISE,

JOBS, BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY,

SECURITY AND A SEAMLESS TRANSITION





All of this is not accomplished alone.

A Very Special Thanks to Rabbi and Rebbetzin Pinny and Chava Backman for opening their home to us and being there for us with our non-stop flyovers.



A Very Special Thanks to Rabbi Mendel Dubrowsky for his unwavering guidance and ever ready to help with a smile.

A Very Special Thanks to Rabbi Lazer Rifkin, Rabbi Uriel Rivkin, Rabbi Eber, Rabbi Yarmish, Rabbi Rubashkin, Rabbi an Rebbezin Yosef and Sulha Dubrowsky, and Rabbi Reich.

And I can advance the thanks to all the Shluchim I have yet to meet iyh! Tampa is pretty big! JCC



Thank you Mr. Gary Gould CEO of the JCC / Federation, for everything you do for us.

Mr Gary Gould had a beautiful write up in the Jewish Press of Tampa Bay, welcoming our new community to Tampa.



Thank you Mark Siegel

Mark Siegel Director at the JCC and Jewish federation was placed in charge of the new community and is helping us set up in many areas to assure a smooth relocation for all the families joining our community.

One of the things;

He has arranged meetings with local congress people as well as Governor Di Santos and Senators Marco Rubio and Rick Scott. (Zoom - Covid friendly).

We will be sharing their messages by virtual presentation at our upcoming event iyh.



Without fail, every flight to and back from Tampa we find ourselves in company of Chassidim doing business in the Tampa Bay area.

They share a passion for this unbelievable move and all guarantee to be instrumental in helping newcomers discover new business opportunities, or find employment.



For those that follow, Lazer Kraus the famous podcast reporter on Kol M'Vaser, joined us on a tour of the future site of the community, toured the location site of where Community facilities and the commercial strip will be situated.

As well as having Inspected the beautiful model homes, (not perfected with kosher kitchen yet).

Tune in this coming week and enjoy his takedown of the new upcoming community in Tampa Bay, Florida.



There are a few slots left to complete the first 100 family goal, remember homes will be sold by first come basis. To join the community today, email and we will let you know how to be part of this initial group.



Welcome! And We look forward to being neighbors with you in the Sunshine State very shortly.



Rebbetzin Malka R. Taussig

floridamove2021@gmail.com

718-854-1217
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Dan on September 03, 2020, 12:17:48 PM
Free ad on DD if they get DeSantis, Rubio and Scott to partake in the knish eating contest.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on September 03, 2020, 12:20:00 PM
Free ad on DD if they get DiSantos, Rubio and Scott to partake in the knish eating contest.
But only as long as there is no sushi.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ad120 on September 03, 2020, 12:20:59 PM
I'm glad she knows the governors name.
Governor DiSantos. Lol.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on September 03, 2020, 12:21:23 PM
Free ad on DD if they get DiSantos, Rubio and Scott to partake in the knish eating contest.
How does a virtual knish eating contest work?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: etech0 on September 03, 2020, 12:37:17 PM
How does a virtual knish eating contest work?
bring your own knish
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: aygart on September 03, 2020, 03:42:20 PM
Free ad on DD if they get DeSantis, Rubio and Scott to partake in the knish eating contest.
As long as they don't squirt the inside of the cheese blintz.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: BP16 on September 03, 2020, 04:53:15 PM
Wouldn't they be better off with brochures of pictures of how the houses will look and other amenities, instead of long whatsapp messages?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: avromie7 on September 03, 2020, 05:01:30 PM
Wouldn't they be better off with brochures of pictures of how the houses will look and other amenities, instead of long whatsapp messages?
That's more expensive.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Joel2 on September 03, 2020, 05:04:55 PM
That's more expensive.
Why isn't the developer making one?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: yaakov35 on September 07, 2020, 04:35:20 PM
If you're ready to get out of NY/NJ here's your opportunity
https://www.theorlandoprojects.com/
Next community
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ah giten on September 07, 2020, 04:39:53 PM
Find the mistake in the menu.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: Something Fishy on September 07, 2020, 05:19:05 PM
Find the mistake in the menu.

Seems fixed. However the use of comic sans is unforgivable.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: gozalim on September 07, 2020, 05:24:57 PM
If you're ready to get out of NY/NJ here's your opportunity
https://www.theorlandoprojects.com/
Next community
my understanding is that Orlando has more frum infrastructure already in place then Tampa does. that should raise the odds of success
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: YitzyS on September 07, 2020, 06:26:39 PM
Seems fixed. However the use of comic sans is unforgivable.
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Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: neveryou on September 07, 2020, 08:31:41 PM
Are they going to make parents get filters on their phones in order for the kids to be in cheder?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: ah giten on September 08, 2020, 01:38:00 AM
Are they going to make parents get filters on their phones in order for the kids to be in cheder?
Would you send to a Yeshiva that has parents with all access open internet, for them and for the kids?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: BP16 on September 08, 2020, 01:01:45 PM
my understanding is that Orlando has more frum infrastructure already in place then Tampa does. that should raise the odds of success
The question is about housing in Orlando, do they plan on building a development or just move to a location and start buying off build houses?

I guess they could buy this! https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/12700-S-Orange-Orlando-FL-32824/2091434413_zpid/
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Tampa
Post by: daybyday on September 08, 2020, 09:07:22 PM
If you're ready to get out of NY/NJ here's your opportunity
https://www.theorlandoprojects.com/
Next community
Based on their website i would say their budget is super slim...