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Title: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on August 25, 2020, 06:53:38 AM
Portable for good price.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: moko on August 25, 2020, 07:06:52 AM
Portable for good price.
GB or tb? Not sure a 3-4 GB external HDD or SSD exists
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: avrohomgelb on August 25, 2020, 08:20:13 AM
GB or tb? Not sure a 3-4 GB external HDD or SSD exists
Lol he must be running a computer from the 80s
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: myi on August 25, 2020, 09:59:25 AM
GB or tb? Not sure a 3-4 GB external HDD or SSD exists
he probably meant terabyte.

 The better question is, HDD OR SSD.

 Is it worth splurging on the SSD versus the HDD?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on August 25, 2020, 10:59:02 AM
Meant TB,

whats the definition of HDD-SSD ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Yo ssi on August 25, 2020, 11:14:04 AM
GB or tb? Not sure a 3-4 GB external HDD or SSD exists
I believe I still got a 3gb one somewhere😂 (from a windows 95 PC!)

Meant TB,

whats the definition of HDD-SSD ?
HDD = Hard Disk Drive, there's a spinning disk
SSD = Solid State Drive, memory is stored without moving parts (like a USB)
Most people say SSD will last longer, while some people say the opposite.
SSD are generally faster and are recommended for a boot drive.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on August 25, 2020, 02:14:14 PM
I believe I still got a 3gb one somewhere😂 (from a windows 95 PC!)

i have one that only holds some MB


HDD = Hard Disk Drive, there's a spinning disk
SSD = Solid State Drive, memory is stored without moving parts (like a USB)
Most people say SSD will last longer, while some people say the opposite.
SSD are generally faster and are recommended for a boot drive.
Thanx
what are most portable one's ? or do they come in both types.

Id imagine the less thigs that can move around the less chances of something going wrong
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: YitzyS on August 25, 2020, 02:23:08 PM
I believe I still got a 3gb one somewhere😂 (from a windows 95 PC!)
HDD = Hard Disk Drive, there's a spinning disk
SSD = Solid State Drive, memory is stored without moving parts (like a USB)
Most people say SSD will last longer, while some people say the opposite.
SSD are generally faster and are recommended for a boot drive.
Also, SSD is a lot more expensive...
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: myi on August 25, 2020, 10:55:21 PM
Also, SSD is a lot more expensive...
As they say in America, you pay for what you get for.

Yes in most scenerios SSD is better than HDD.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on September 05, 2020, 07:09:25 PM
I want to use my dell.com $200 credit to buy a hard drive at dell,  can someone recommend which one to get, between 4-6 tb ? https://www.dell.com/koa/search?q=external%20hard%20drive#q=external%20hard%20drive&t=default&sort=relevancy&layout=card&@dpsalessegment:radioGroup=dhs
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on September 06, 2020, 07:59:27 PM
I want to use my dell.com $200 credit to buy a hard drive at dell,  can someone recommend which one to get, between 4-6 tb ? https://www.dell.com/koa/search?q=external%20hard%20drive#q=external%20hard%20drive&t=default&sort=relevancy&layout=card&@dpsalessegment:radioGroup=dhs
alsp which company is recommended WD, Toshiba, or Seagate ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: myi on September 06, 2020, 08:18:55 PM
alsp which company is recommended WD, Toshiba, or Seagate ?
Sandisk has some good ones as well.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: YitzyS on September 06, 2020, 08:20:35 PM
alsp which company is recommended WD, Toshiba, or Seagate ?
I think that more important than the brand is what case you buy and how you handle it. Most brands will work perfectly if you handle it carefully. If you drop it, I think any brand is subject to breaking and memory loss.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on September 07, 2020, 02:41:04 AM
Sandisk has some good ones as well.
thanx. Haven't seen any at dell, so didn't list it
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on September 07, 2020, 02:42:52 AM
I think that more important than the brand is what case you buy and how you handle it. Most brands will work perfectly if you handle it carefully. If you drop it, I think any brand is subject to breaking and memory loss.
I have an old Seagate 1 th which still has to be plugged in to the wall, wasn't dropped or anything just suddenly stopped working. That's why I asked if any one is recommended over others.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: gozalim on September 07, 2020, 09:20:16 AM
I have an old Seagate 1 th which still has to be plugged in to the wall, wasn't dropped or anything just suddenly stopped working. That's why I asked if any one is recommended over others.
dunno about longevity, but years ago @DH Data Recovery has commented on which builds (and brands) are easier and cheaper to recover data from once they do inevitably die. But I don't know if the info is still current
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Square on September 07, 2020, 11:27:51 AM
I have an old Seagate 1 th which still has to be plugged in to the wall, wasn't dropped or anything just suddenly stopped working. That's why I asked if any one is recommended over others.
The real answer for your question is, that you shouldn't buy a 3-4TB hard drive.

All the 4TB portable hard drives use SMR technology, which is very unreliable and hard to recover.

Stay away from Seagate.

The only options remaining is WD or Toshiba 2 TB or less.

BTW I'm doing data recovery full time.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: mbelsky on September 07, 2020, 11:38:38 AM
The real answer for your question is, that you shouldn't buy a 3-4TB hard drive.

All the 4TB portable hard drives use SMR technology, which is very unreliable and hard to recover.

Stay away from Seagate.

The only options remaining is WD or Toshiba 2 TB or less.

BTW I'm doing data recovery full time.

My BILs external died (just clicks and says requires a format). If you can recommend any tools (free or not) i would really appreciate it.

I am fairly handy, so even a dissasembly/remounting of platters is an option if u recommend that route.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Square on September 07, 2020, 11:56:58 AM
My BILs external died (just clicks and says requires a format). If you can recommend any tools (free or not) i would really appreciate it.

I am fairly handy, so even a dissasembly/remounting of platters is an option if u recommend that route.
If the data is important stay away, if not I can try to guide you how to diagnose it and what to do.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on September 07, 2020, 06:56:17 PM
The real answer for your question is, that you shouldn't buy a 3-4TB hard drive.

All the 4TB portable hard drives use SMR technology, which is very unreliable and hard to recover.

Stay away from Seagate.

The only options remaining is WD or Toshiba 2 TB or less.

BTW I'm doing data recovery full time.
thanx, is that specific to 4 tb or anything bigger than 2tb ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Square on September 07, 2020, 11:15:47 PM
thanx, is that specific to 4 tb or anything bigger than 2tb ?
3TB are usually 2nd of 4tb, so it could be worse.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 07, 2020, 11:29:10 PM
The real answer for your question is, that you shouldn't buy a 3-4TB hard drive.

All the 4TB portable hard drives use SMR technology, which is very unreliable and hard to recover.

Stay away from Seagate.

The only options remaining is WD or Toshiba 2 TB or less.

BTW I'm doing data recovery full time.
I understand this is your job, but do have any source other then experience?
(I've heard from people working at data recovery the exact opposite, to stay away from WD and get Seagate)
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: eli1571 on September 08, 2020, 07:47:06 AM
If the data is important stay away, if not I can try to guide you how to diagnose it and what to do.
what can i do to try and repair my 1tb seagate, showing light that has power when plugged in, but no noise and not being detected by computer
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Square on September 08, 2020, 12:16:28 PM
what can i do to try and repair my 1tb seagate, showing light that has power when plugged in, but no noise and not being detected by computer
What is the model number?

Dose the drive spin up, spin down?

Put the drive to your ear when you plug it in, and describe exactly what you hear.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Square on September 08, 2020, 12:16:53 PM
I understand this is your job, but do have any source other then experience?
(I've heard from people working at data recovery the exact opposite, to stay away from WD and get Seagate)
In recent years?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 08, 2020, 12:31:05 PM
In recent years?
Within 5 years
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Square on September 08, 2020, 12:40:11 PM
Within 5 years
I wasn't in the line 5 years ago, but in the last few years Seagate drives are bad.

Are you in the IT industry? Which drives do you see failing more?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 08, 2020, 12:55:47 PM
I wasn't in the line 5 years ago, but in the last few years Seagate drives are bad.

Are you in the IT industry? Which drives do you see failing more?
I mostly get requests from friends, I have only seen one failed seagate drive to date. I've seen mostly WD (doesn't necessarily mean much because they are generally more commonly bought) and some others.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: JudahMcB on September 08, 2020, 03:08:33 PM
Which drives do you see failing more?
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q2-2020/
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 08, 2020, 03:24:40 PM
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-hard-drive-stats-q2-2020/
Most of us aren't using our portable hard drives as servers, so this information is interesting yet useless.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: JudahMcB on September 08, 2020, 03:54:54 PM
Most of us aren't using our portable hard drives as servers, so this information is interesting yet useless.
It does confirm that you should stay away from Seagate as mentioned upthread.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 GB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 08, 2020, 04:09:10 PM
It does confirm that you should stay away from Seagate as mentioned upthread.
You can't eliminate a company's one product, because the other may be bad🧐
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 08, 2020, 07:01:51 PM
What is the model number?

Dose the drive spin up, spin down?

Put the drive to your ear when you plug it in, and describe exactly what you hear.
its avtually a 2tb, plug it in light goes on, but i dont hear anything.
doesnt say model number anywhere. has pn number
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Square on September 08, 2020, 11:49:15 PM
its avtually a 2tb, plug it in light goes on, but i dont hear anything.
doesnt say model number anywhere. has pn number
Remove the drive from the enclosure, and connect it to a SATA wire.

You will see the model number on the drive, and let me know if you hear a faint beeping noise.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 09, 2020, 08:08:20 AM
Remove the drive from the enclosure, and connect it to a SATA wire.

You will see the model number on the drive, and let me know if you hear a faint beeping noise.
which wire should I remove the plug or usb  or something else ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 09, 2020, 10:25:58 AM
which wire should I remove the plug or usb  or something else ?
Remove the enclosure, and send a pic
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 14, 2020, 10:49:36 AM
Remove the drive from the enclosure, and connect it to a SATA wire.

Remove the enclosure, and send a pic
is this what you need ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/4x0rt6rk/IMG-2288.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qN8bH3Jj)
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 14, 2020, 11:45:24 AM
is this what you need ?
(https://i.postimg.cc/4x0rt6rk/IMG-2288.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qN8bH3Jj)
Yes. The top should separate from the actual drive, allowing you to plug the drive into the computer directly
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 14, 2020, 08:27:45 PM
Yes. The top should separate from the actual drive, allowing you to plug the drive into the computer directly
and, should that make it work ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 14, 2020, 08:29:44 PM
and, should that make it work ?
Remove the drive from the enclosure, and connect it to a SATA wire.

You will see the model number on the drive, and let me know if you hear a faint beeping noise.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 14, 2020, 08:35:05 PM

so i take off the top part, and i guess ill see where to connect the wire, is this a special type of wire or the one that comes with it ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 14, 2020, 08:38:40 PM
so i take off the top part, and i guess ill see where to connect the wire, is this a special type of wire or the one that comes with it ?
Taking off the top part makes it like a regular internal drive. You can either stick it into a computer or get a wire to connect it to your computer externally.
I'll let @Square take it over from here:)
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 14, 2020, 08:42:31 PM
Taking off the top part makes it like a regular internal drive. You can either stick it into a computer or get a wire to connect it to your computer externally.
I'll let @Square take it over from here:)
thanx for your help till here.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 15, 2020, 07:14:55 PM
i got this wire https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y1LTRY1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

but its not right, i need one with a dent in it, sorry for explaining it that way, i just dont now what its called.
can i get that in a sata wire ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 15, 2020, 07:29:54 PM
i got this wire https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y1LTRY1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

but its not right, i need one with a dent in it, sorry for explaining it that way, i just dont now what its called.
can i get that in a sata wire ?

(i hope i didnt start a job that takes a pro, and ill mess up my hard drive)
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Square on September 15, 2020, 10:03:36 PM
i got this wire https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06Y1LTRY1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

but its not right, i need one with a dent in it, sorry for explaining it that way, i just dont now what its called.
can i get that in a sata wire ?

(i hope i didnt start a job that takes a pro, and ill mess up my hard drive)
You're half way there,

You also need a SATA power cord
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 16, 2020, 06:51:03 AM
You're half way there,

You also need a SATA power cord
the above cable in the link is wrong as it doesnt go in, since the hard drive has that dent,
can you please tell me exactly which cables i  should get ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: YitzyS on September 16, 2020, 07:21:48 AM
Is this what you need? Because I have one (in Lakewood) which I can gladly lend.

Sabrent USB 3.0 to SATA External Hard Drive Lay-Flat Docking Station for 2.5 or 3.5in HDD, SSD [Support UASP] (EC-DFLT) ($22.99) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LS5NFQ2/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71E5NuZlYhL._AC_SX679_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LS5NFQ2/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 16, 2020, 08:15:43 AM
Is this what you need? Because I have one (in Lakewood) which I can gladly lend.

Sabrent USB 3.0 to SATA External Hard Drive Lay-Flat Docking Station for 2.5 or 3.5in HDD, SSD [Support UASP] (EC-DFLT) ($22.99) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LS5NFQ2/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71E5NuZlYhL._AC_SX679_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LS5NFQ2/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
not sure, hope @Square can advise ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Square on September 16, 2020, 09:09:58 AM
not sure, hope @Square can advise ?
Should be good,

I just want you should plug it in for a short time, and tell me what it does and how it sounds.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 16, 2020, 11:07:43 AM
Should be good,

I just want you should plug it in for a short time, and tell me what it does and how it sounds.
any other type of cable i can use  ? can i trouble you to post a link for what i need
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Square on September 16, 2020, 12:23:09 PM
any other type of cable i can use  ? can i trouble you to post a link for what i need
Something like this https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Drive-Adapter-Converter-Support/dp/B07SGRBVB7/ref=sr_1_5?crid=P88AIA2OMEY1&dchild=1&keywords=usb+to+sata+3.5&qid=1600273013&s=industrial&sprefix=USB+to+%2Cindustrial%2C165&sr=1-5
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 16, 2020, 05:03:25 PM
Something like this https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Drive-Adapter-Converter-Support/dp/B07SGRBVB7/ref=sr_1_5?crid=P88AIA2OMEY1&dchild=1&keywords=usb+to+sata+3.5&qid=1600273013&s=industrial&sprefix=USB+to+%2Cindustrial%2C165&sr=1-5
thanx, ill try it and report back, prob only after r"h.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 16, 2020, 05:12:18 PM
thanx, ill try it and report back, prob only after r"h.
@Square do you think it's worth buying a cable just to diagnose? (Chances are it won't fix anything)
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Square on September 16, 2020, 05:42:37 PM
@Square do you think it's worth buying a cable just to diagnose? (Chances are it won't fix anything)
He wants to do it himself, there is a chance that it's just the enclosure.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Yo ssi on September 16, 2020, 06:18:25 PM
He wants to do it himself, there is a chance that it's just the enclosure.
That's always the first thing I try, never had a successful fix from that.
Has it ever worked for you?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Square on September 16, 2020, 06:31:43 PM
That's always the first thing I try, never had a successful fix from that.
Has it ever worked for you?
I've seen it a few times.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 16, 2020, 07:00:03 PM
I've seen it a few times.
just curious, if its not that, is it gone ?
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: Square on September 16, 2020, 07:16:27 PM
just curious, if its not that, is it gone ?
Nothing is gone yet, we need to go step by step.
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 16, 2020, 07:22:31 PM
Nothing is gone yet, we need to go step by step.
alright, thanx
Title: Re: Looking for external hard drive 3-4 TB
Post by: eli1571 on September 17, 2020, 07:52:48 AM
Nothing is gone yet, we need to go step by step.
just confirming, my hard drive has a micro b usb (the wire with a dent in the middle) will the wire you linked or from @YitzyS work or do i need to get a special one ?