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Title: kosher mp3 players
Post by: sguitarist18 on August 30, 2020, 09:57:40 PM
Hi, does anyone know any good sources other than DB electronics for kosher mp3 players (no radio, etc)?
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: yungermanchik on August 30, 2020, 11:00:22 PM
Hi, does anyone know any good sources other than DB electronics for kosher mp3 players (no radio, etc)?
I think what they do is just remove the radio capability from s/t like this:
SanDisk 8GB Clip Jam MP3 Player, Red - microSD card slot and FM Radio - 20.99

SanDisk 8GB Clip Jam MP3 Player, Red - microSD card slot and FM Radio - SDMX26-008G-G46R ($20.99) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0761ZWHNW/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51R9SZZuwxL._AC_SY741_.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0761ZWHNW/?tag=cl03f-20&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
So if you can get someone to do that, at this price, it may be worthwhile.

ETA. TAG (http://tagflatbush.com/mp3-players/) does it for just a $5 insurance charge

TOTAL: $25.99 which is cheaper than DB
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on August 30, 2020, 11:42:27 PM
ETA. TAG (http://tagflatbush.com/mp3-players/) does it for just a $5 insurance charge
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There is no charge however there is a $5 insurance fee to cover damage or loss of the device.
What's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: yungermanchik on August 30, 2020, 11:45:40 PM
What's that supposed to mean?
Not sure, but I think it means that they pass along a charge of $5 from a company that covers if they mess up.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on August 30, 2020, 11:47:06 PM
Not sure, but I think it means that they pass along a charge of $5 from a company that covers if they mess up.
Then that should be optional, if I'm willing to take the risk they should do it for free.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: yungermanchik on August 30, 2020, 11:48:44 PM
Then that should be optional, if I'm willing to take the risk they should do it for free.
No idea, maybe text or email them about it?
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: sguitarist18 on August 30, 2020, 11:55:39 PM
Then that should be optional, if I'm willing to take the risk they should do it for free.

I'm guessing people might be willing to take the risk, unless things don't turn out well. After a few experiences like that, they might not want to make exceptions :-)

Do all TAGs do this?
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on August 30, 2020, 11:57:05 PM
I'm guessing people might be willing to take the risk, unless things don't turn out well. After a few experiences like that, they might not want to make exceptions :-)

Do all TAGs do this?
I'm thinking maybe they don't hire any insurance, but mandate the fee as their own insurance.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: yungermanchik on August 31, 2020, 12:10:03 AM
Do all TAGs do this?
The only way to find out seems to be to contact your TAG because TAG Flatbush seems to be the only one with a developed website
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: yoshyosh on August 31, 2020, 07:39:27 AM
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1573787-REG/fiio_m3ksilver_m3k_portable_hi_res_music.html

This does not have radio, or play videos and has great sound quality and battery life for a more expensive but better value.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: cozmohoot on August 31, 2020, 08:49:12 PM
I think what they do is just remove the radio capability from s/t like this:So if you can get someone to do that, at this price, it may be worthwhile.

ETA. TAG (http://tagflatbush.com/mp3-players/) does it for just a $5 insurance charge

TOTAL: $25.99 which is cheaper than DB
That's a good deal. Back to 30
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: ExGingi on August 31, 2020, 09:52:22 PM
That's a good deal. Back to 30

I recall that for an older very popular SanDisk mp3 player it was just a matter of downloading a different firmware from their website and installing it, to eliminate the radio.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: aygart on August 31, 2020, 11:01:03 PM
I recall that for an older very popular SanDisk mp3 player it was just a matter of downloading a different firmware from their website and installing it, to eliminate the radio.
Until they figure out how to switch it back to the original VERY easily.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: ExGingi on September 01, 2020, 12:32:32 AM
Until they figure out how to switch it back to the original VERY easily.

Obviously. Same firmware update process.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 01, 2020, 12:46:52 AM
I recall that for an older very popular SanDisk mp3 player it was just a matter of downloading a different firmware from their website and installing it, to eliminate the radio.
Yes their older mp3 players Actually ran better chips, there's a firmware called rockbox that is able to be out on it, that increased the value of the player from $30 to $100! (2 years after they stopped making them)
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: aygart on September 01, 2020, 08:58:12 AM
Obviously. Same firmware update process.
Not even. You are able to choose between them each time the device bouts up.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 01, 2020, 09:06:55 AM
Not even. You are able to choose between them each time the device bouts up.
-1
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: aygart on September 01, 2020, 09:54:34 AM
-1
I've done it. maybe depends on exact model.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 01, 2020, 10:57:09 AM
I've done it. maybe depends on exact model.
Which model are you referring to? Their two main ones were the sansa clip zip and the clip plus.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Mikes@Micro on September 01, 2020, 11:00:32 AM
I recall that for an older very popular SanDisk mp3 player it was just a matter of downloading a different firmware from their website and installing it, to eliminate the radio.
Until they figure out how to switch it back to the original VERY easily.
Obviously. Same firmware update process.

IIRC it was downloading the European firmware instead of the American one and it could not even be removed by factory reset. Only way to get the radio back was to install the American OS --- which was not publicly available for download so essentially the only way to turn the radio back on was to mail back the mp3 player.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Mikes@Micro on September 01, 2020, 11:01:13 AM
Not even. You are able to choose between them each time the device bouts up.
You are referring to rockbox not the radio removal firmware.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 01, 2020, 11:08:22 AM
IIRC it was downloading the European firmware instead of the American one and it could not even be removed by factory reset. Only way to get the radio back was to install the American OS --- which was not publicly available for download so essentially the only way to turn the radio back on was to mail back the mp3 player.
I don't believe that's correct, all the firmwares are readily available on SanDisk website.

Link to non radio firmwares (https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5224/~/removing-the-fm-radio-feature-from-the-sansa-clipzip%2Fclip%2B%2Fclip%2Ffuze-player)
Link to regular firmware (https://kb-nl.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/300/~/updating-the-sansa-clip-sport-%2F-clip-zip-%2F-clip%2B-%2F-clips-firmware)

ETA: I believe what you referring to is if you have the regular firmware you can select your region, and possibly one of the regions gets rid of the radio, then doing a reset would get the radio back. But if you have the non radio firmware that shouldn't work.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: how on September 24, 2020, 03:40:44 PM
Does anyone have ideas for the best way to play music at home without a tablet etc. MP3 players keep breaking and they are annoying. I miss my old fashioned CD player
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 24, 2020, 03:57:59 PM
Does anyone have ideas for the best way to play music at home without a tablet etc. MP3 players keep breaking and they are annoying. I miss my old fashioned CD player
What's wrong with a cheap phone or tablet?
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: how on September 24, 2020, 04:02:23 PM
What's wrong with a cheap phone or tablet?
Some how my kids always find a way to get to things I dont want them to see
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 24, 2020, 06:01:18 PM
Does anyone have ideas for the best way to play music at home without a tablet etc. MP3 players keep breaking and they are annoying. I miss my old fashioned CD player
A good mp3 player...

I'm using the Fiio devices and quite satisfied.

Everything breaks off children use it, your old CD player and well... But for such a device it's obviously well worth to but an accidental extended warranty.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 24, 2020, 06:09:05 PM
A good mp3 player...

I'm using the Fiio devices and quite satisfied.

Everything breaks off children use it, your old CD player and well... But for such a device it's obviously well worth to but an accidental extended warranty.
+1
Fiio is very good quality albeit super xpensive.
An alternative would be to get a very cheap mp3 and replace it every time it breaks (especially good for playing a set playlist). Advantages being, it's cheaper and you don't have to worry about it.

I would recommend the SanDisk clip jam available for $30 as a solid cheaper mp3.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yisroel Tech on September 24, 2020, 06:51:14 PM
Fiio is very good quality albeit super xpensive.
X1 2nd Gen ($79.99) or M3K ($59.99) aren't really "super expensive" IMHO.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 24, 2020, 07:03:46 PM
X1 2nd Gen ($79.99) or M3K ($59.99) aren't really "super expensive" IMHO.
For a mp3 player in 2020 that's pretty expensive.
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: gozalim on September 24, 2020, 09:48:54 PM
For a mp3 player in 2020 that's pretty expensive.
2 broken SanDisk and you're there
Title: Re: kosher mp3 players
Post by: Yo ssi on September 24, 2020, 09:54:05 PM
2 broken SanDisk and you're there
I have over 5 working SanDisks over 6 years old..
(I even have a working Sansa e200 which is 14 years old)