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Title: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: superstareli55 on November 07, 2020, 01:00:44 PM
Is the Oilam now gonna finally start making Aliyah?
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Post by: Afrages6 on November 07, 2020, 06:01:41 PM
Why are we toast?
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Post by: avrohomgelb on November 07, 2020, 06:05:46 PM
What's wrong with Biden?
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Post by: CountValentine on November 07, 2020, 06:13:27 PM
Our prays have been answered!!!
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Post by: Mordyk on November 07, 2020, 06:31:42 PM
And there we thought 2020 couldn't be more messed up...
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Post by: CountValentine on November 07, 2020, 06:40:49 PM
And there we thought 2020 couldn't be more messed up...
2020 is toast with a bright future for 2021.
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Post by: Mordyk on November 07, 2020, 06:46:30 PM
2020 is toast with a bright future for 2021.
As I said somewhere else, the president doesn't really affect my life, especiallywith a republican senate, but as a frum Jewish person that loves Israel it will affect me. Just like Obama with Iran deal, freezing settlements etc. I see these leftist liberals being even worse.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: CountValentine on November 07, 2020, 06:48:21 PM
Have faith in our president elect. He is not a leftist liberal.
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Post by: Mordyk on November 07, 2020, 06:50:07 PM
Have faith in our president elect. He is not a leftist liberal.
Kamala is.  And I think she will be more involved then your typical vice president.

It would really hurt to see all the progress being undone by people that their whole agenda is to undo Trumps work
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Post by: yzj on November 07, 2020, 06:55:57 PM
The same guys that made good on their threats of Aliyah when Obama was elected will do so now. Translation- none.

Chill. Despite what you may be hearing on talk radio not much is going to change in any perceptible way.
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Post by: yesitsme on November 07, 2020, 06:56:35 PM
We all have a right for output output9ufoufoufoufoyfoufoufoufoufoufoufoufoyf
But how long do you think it will take for Biden to implement it it's it's it'd ought ugly gouging luckily fly?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Tomorrow on November 07, 2020, 07:01:44 PM
We all have a right for output output9ufoufoufoufoyfoufoufoufoufoufoufoufoyf
But how long do you think it will take for Biden to implement it it's it's it'd ought ugly gouging luckily fly?
Fell asleep on your keyboard?
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Post by: Mordyk on November 07, 2020, 07:02:12 PM
Fell asleep on your keyboard?
He is just quoting our president elect
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Post by: yesitsme on November 07, 2020, 07:36:40 PM
I must say quoting our honorable elect with spell checker enabled is extremely difficult
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Post by: CountValentine on November 07, 2020, 07:39:26 PM
Can we move this to JS since some can't help themselves?
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Post by: incendia on November 07, 2020, 08:24:47 PM
I don't get this fatalism. You did just fine with Obama as pres for 8 years. Will Biden (or Harris if you believe in conspiracy theories) be that much worst?

______

As I said somewhere else, the president doesn't really affect my life, especiallywith a republican senate, but as a frum Jewish person that loves Israel it will affect me. Just like Obama with Iran deal, freezing settlements etc. I see these leftist liberals being even worse.

How do those things affect you?

The settlement freeze was done by the Israeli Government and is always a standard part of negotiations with the PA.

When trump scrapped the Iran deal, they started enriching uranium again, that seems worst to me than them not enriching uranium. It's hard to know what the right policy on Iran is, but I don't think the deal Obama made was given a fare shot.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Mordyk on November 07, 2020, 08:26:41 PM
I don't get this fatalism. You did just fine with Obama as pres for 8 years. Will Biden (or Harris if you believe in conspiracy theories) be that much worst?

______

How do those things affect you?

The settlement freeze was done by the Israeli Government and is always a standard part of negotiations with the PA.

When trump scrapped the Iran deal, they started enriching uranium again, that seems worst to me than them not enriching uranium. It's hard to know what the right policy on Iran is, but I don't think the deal Obama made was given a fare shot.
It affects me because I care about Israel.  Direct payments to terrorists affects me, Iran deal affects me.  Affecting means affecting my interests as well.

Settlement freeze only happens when they are forced to.
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Post by: Baglach on November 08, 2020, 12:09:27 AM
And Gas prices are likely to go up a lot.
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Post by: aygart on November 08, 2020, 12:13:02 AM
And Gas prices are likely to go up a lot.
Doesn't seem like you have much understanding of petroleum markets.
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Post by: zh cohen on November 08, 2020, 08:40:59 AM
Doesn't seem like you have much understanding of petroleum markets.

You don't think that limiting domestic production, while destabilizing the ME will result in higher oil prices?
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Post by: CountValentine on November 08, 2020, 08:42:24 AM
You don't think that limiting domestic production, while destabilizing the ME will result in higher oil prices?
False premise.
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Post by: zh cohen on November 08, 2020, 08:45:43 AM
False premise.

Which part?

The limiting domestic production as he pleged? Or that the guy who was "wrong on every during policy question of his career" will destabilize the ME?
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Post by: CountValentine on November 08, 2020, 08:48:12 AM
Which part?
Both.
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Post by: ExGingi on November 08, 2020, 09:34:33 AM
I honestly don't think "we", as in the citizens of the US, are toast.

Thank G-d Trump has nominated 3 very fine Supreme Court justices (and many other judicial nominations down the line). That should hold off on any drastic change of direction of this country domestically.

However, in areas where the POTUS doesn't really have much influence, there are some serious challenges. I honestly think that we're in for a MAJOR stock market crash and (separately) a major financial reset. There are also global geopolitical challenges that are really scary, G-d help us all.
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Post by: aygart on November 08, 2020, 10:14:53 AM
You don't think that limiting domestic production, while destabilizing the ME will result in higher oil prices?
In many ways, the boat has already sailed on both of those in how they affect oil prices. Even without that, there are so many other aspects involved, and oversupply can cause instability as well. There are a number of producers who went bankrupt due to low prices. These things can have negative long term effects.
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Post by: AsherO on November 08, 2020, 02:54:01 PM
I honestly think that we're in for a MAJOR stock market crash and (separately) a major financial reset.

Best asset classes to hold? Precious metals? Real estate? Something else?
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Post by: Toasted on November 08, 2020, 03:05:55 PM
Best asset classes to hold? Precious metals? Real estate? Something else?
Wind turbines.
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Post by: Jellybelly on November 08, 2020, 03:07:38 PM
Best asset classes to hold? Precious metals? Real estate? Something else?
Maybe try to get a government contract for anything, maybe for paper straws?
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Post by: lansky on November 08, 2020, 03:07:46 PM
Doesn't seem like you have much understanding of petroleum markets.
ban drilling gas goes up, I don't think you understand how it works
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: lansky on November 08, 2020, 03:09:34 PM
The same guys that made good on their threats of Aliyah when Obama was elected will do so now. Translation- none.
if you can't see how our country is on worse shape then 8 year's ago no one can help you, 8 year's ago was the start of the process this could be the end
Chill. Despite what you may be hearing on talk radio not much is going to change in any perceptible way.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: lansky on November 08, 2020, 03:11:57 PM
As I said somewhere else, the president doesn't really affect my life, especiallywith a republican senate, but as a frum Jewish person that loves Israel it will affect me. Just like Obama with Iran deal, freezing settlements etc. I see these leftist liberals being even worse.
no guarantee on republican senate ,2 runsoffs in Georgia, even if they do win ,don't count out a dumb or 2 republican to join the other side in key votes
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Post by: ExGingi on November 08, 2020, 03:22:56 PM
Best asset classes to hold? Precious metals? Real estate? Something else?

Right now I would say the best place to invest would be anything that could benefit from what I expect to be record shattering spending on GA Senate runoff races.
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Post by: SSLPhD on November 08, 2020, 03:30:24 PM
ban drilling gas goes up, I don't think you understand how it works
Lol. You realize @aygart is in the energy business?  Of all the people here, he probably understands it the best.
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Post by: AsherO on November 08, 2020, 03:32:47 PM
Right now I would say the best place to invest would be anything that could benefit from what I expect to be record shattering spending on GA Senate runoff races.

Isnt that (even if its $100m/party, $200m total) still a small blip on the radars of advertising/media companies considering there are so many mediums/channels?
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Post by: CountValentine on November 08, 2020, 03:49:00 PM
Lol. You realize @aygart is in the energy business?  Of all the people here, he probably understands it the best.
He needs to PUOSU. I want a discount.  :)
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Post by: yesitsme on November 08, 2020, 06:26:15 PM
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Post by: yesitsme on November 08, 2020, 06:30:25 PM
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Post by: zh cohen on November 08, 2020, 06:37:21 PM

Blut vet zivh gissen, ober sholom vet du zein
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Post by: yesitsme on November 08, 2020, 07:40:48 PM
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Post by: yesitsme on November 08, 2020, 07:45:01 PM
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Post by: CountValentine on November 08, 2020, 10:11:23 PM
Common sense approach to help save lives.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-will-call-governors-mayors-about-mask-mandate/ar-BB1aOXzO
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Post by: CountValentine on November 08, 2020, 11:06:50 PM
Biden to talk about his covid plan tomorrow. Maybe it will get Trump to wake up and do something.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 08, 2020, 11:11:01 PM
Biden to talk about his covid plan tomorrow. Maybe it will get Trump to wake up and do something.
קנאת סופרים תרבה חכמה
(Jealousy of the students makes everybody smarter)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 07:44:49 AM
'Kindness conspiracy'
"It's random acts of kindness for Black people. Do something nice for a Black person just because they're Black, and you've got to make sure they don't deserve it. It's a very important part of it, they can't deserve it, the same way all these years they did terrible things to Black people just because they're Black and they didn't deserve it."
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 08:09:10 AM
Market going through the roof. What happen to Trumps prediction the market would crash? ROFLMAO!!!
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Post by: ah giten on November 09, 2020, 08:11:40 AM
Market going through the roof. What happen to Trumps prediction the market would crash? ROFLMAO!!!
Trump expedites a vaccine, and the market is Bidens credit ::)
"U.S. stock futures extended what already were strong gains, following the news that the vaccine being developed by Pfizer PFE, +0.02% (https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/PFE?mod=MW_story_quote) and BioNTech BNTX,  (https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/BNTX?mod=MW_story_quote) was more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/biontech-pfizer-stocks-soar-after-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-achieves-success-in-first-analysis-2020-11-09?mod=article_inline)."
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 08:29:50 AM
Trump expedites a vaccine, and the market is Bidens credit ::)
"U.S. stock futures extended what already were strong gains, following the news that the vaccine being developed by Pfizer PFE, +0.02% (https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/PFE?mod=MW_story_quote) and BioNTech BNTX,  (https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/BNTX?mod=MW_story_quote) was more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/biontech-pfizer-stocks-soar-after-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-achieves-success-in-first-analysis-2020-11-09?mod=article_inline)."
You either have goalposts or you don't. Otherwise you can play with numbers all day long. It also went up before the announcement so don't let facts get in the way.
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Post by: Mordyk on November 09, 2020, 09:00:51 AM
You either have goalposts or you don't. Otherwise you can play with numbers all day long. It also went up before the announcement so don't let facts get in the way.
-1.  Didn't go up like. This.  This is solely due to vaccine.  But hey let Biden take credit even if he isn't in office yet...
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Post by: aygart on November 09, 2020, 09:04:24 AM
You either have goalposts or you don't. Otherwise you can play with numbers all day long. It also went up before the announcement so don't let facts get in the way.
I thought you go from inauguration? You moved them?
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 09:09:12 AM
I thought you go from inauguration? You moved them?
I didn't move anything. I am talking about Trumps comment. He was talking about after inauguration?
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Post by: S209 on November 09, 2020, 09:09:52 AM
-1.  Didn't go up like. This.  This is solely due to vaccine.  But hey let Biden take credit even if he isn't in office yet...
To be fair the market started its meteoric rise after Election Day 2016, not after Trump took office.
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 09:10:50 AM
-1.  Didn't go up like. This.  This is solely due to vaccine.  But hey let Biden take credit even if he isn't in office yet...
Market was up last week and again this morning before the announcement.
You can have your own opinion but not your own facts.  :P
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Post by: YitzyS on November 09, 2020, 09:17:20 AM
I think most objective people believe that the market wouldn't like Biden's policies. The reason the market didn't tank is solely because it seems like the Rs will keep the senate, thus greatly mitigating Biden's ability to do harm to businesses. Rolling back the tax cut is all but off the table, and there's almost no chance that the Senate will confirm Elizabeth Warren to a cabinet position.

News of an imminent vaccine now can have an effect on a market bump.

Is what I'm saying not common sense? @CountValentine
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 09:24:03 AM
Is what I'm saying not common sense? @CountValentine
From the right point of view.
Market did great under BO and he inherited a disaster.
My point was to show Trump to be the idiot he is with these statements.
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Post by: S209 on November 09, 2020, 09:29:47 AM
I think most objective people believe that the market wouldn't like Biden's policies. The reason the market didn't tank is solely because it seems like the Rs will keep the senate, thus greatly mitigating Biden's ability to do harm to businesses. Rolling back the tax cut is all but off the table, and there's almost no chance that the Senate will confirm Elizabeth Warren to a cabinet position.

News of an imminent vaccine now can have an effect on a market bump.

Is what I'm saying not common sense? @CountValentine
Nobody can ever say with certainty what is causing the markets behavior, although many people try. All too often, youll see the following headlines after a jump: Market rises on news of x only to see headlines half an hour later after they fall again- Market hesitates, then drops on news of x.

Many believe the market likes the fact that Biden is expected to spend an enormous amount of money in the economy.
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 09:35:20 AM
Nobody can ever say with certainty what is causing the markets behavior, although many people try. All too often, youll see the following headlines after a jump: Market rises on news of x only to see headlines half an hour later after they fall again- Market hesitates, then drops on news of x.

Many believe the market likes the fact that Biden is expected to spend an enormous amount of money in the economy.
Market likes certainty. They know now Biden will be president. They don't know about the senate. Once that is known then we can see which way it goes. As @aygart pointed out the goalposts start and end at inauguration.
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Post by: YitzyS on November 09, 2020, 11:26:08 AM
I'd like to correct my previous post.

Elizabeth Warren is not a serious candidate for a cabinet post, IMO. The governor of Massachusetts is a R, so she cannot resign or a R would take her spot.
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Post by: zh cohen on November 09, 2020, 12:26:26 PM
I'd like to correct my previous post.

Elizabeth Warren is not a serious candidate for a cabinet post, IMO. The governor of Massachusetts is a R, so she cannot resign or a R would take her spot.

Only until a special election is held. That state is a good example of how changinh the rules in a way you think can benefit you can come back to bite you.

When Kerry was running for president they changed the rules (to make a special election instead of the Governor appointing) in order to avoid giving the Republican Governor at that time (Mitt Romney) the chance to fill the seat if Kerry won. That led to Scott Brown winning the seat after Ted Kennedy died.  They changed the rules again to allow the then Governor (a Democrat) the ability to appoint a interim senator (who lost to Brown) and now Warren is stuck.
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Post by: cks33 on November 09, 2020, 12:36:33 PM
Trump expedites a vaccine, and the market is Bidens credit ::)
"U.S. stock futures extended what already were strong gains, following the news that the vaccine being developed by Pfizer PFE, +0.02% (https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/PFE?mod=MW_story_quote) and BioNTech BNTX,  (https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/BNTX?mod=MW_story_quote) was more than 90% effective in preventing COVID-19 (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/biontech-pfizer-stocks-soar-after-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-achieves-success-in-first-analysis-2020-11-09?mod=article_inline)."

pfizer took no money from operation warpspeed
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Post by: zh cohen on November 09, 2020, 03:53:02 PM
pfizer took no money from operation warpspeed

Except for a $2Billion contract. Also, Warp Speed allowed them to do trials a lot faster than would otherwise have been possible.

In other words you are being gaslighted.
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Post by: gozalim on November 09, 2020, 05:15:04 PM
Except for a $2Billion contract.
which, if nothing else, gave them safety to take risks
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 06:40:39 PM
Except for a $2Billion contract. Also, Warp Speed allowed them to do trials a lot faster than would otherwise have been possible.

In other words you are being gaslighted.
No he is 100% correct in what he said.
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 06:42:42 PM
which, if nothing else, gave them safety to take risks
Actually if there vaccine does what they say it does it is worth a lot more.
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Post by: nucheiner on November 09, 2020, 08:51:48 PM
No he is 100% correct in what he SPUN.

Providing true and accurate info which is misleading is one great way the media gets it done.
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Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 08:56:46 PM
Providing true and accurate info which is misleading is one great way the media gets it done.
The contract statement was misleading. They received no money as stated and will not receive any money unless their vaccine works.
Keep drinking the kool-aid.
At least you understand the media provides "true and accurate info". Your words not mine.  :P
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Post by: yesitsme on November 28, 2020, 08:01:33 PM
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Post by: Jellybelly on November 28, 2020, 08:05:38 PM
I heard 2 theories.
1) they wanna wait till Biden gets in, to let him get him get the credit in exchange for not going back to the Iran deal
2) the current leader doesnt want peace, but the son does
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Post by: zh cohen on November 28, 2020, 08:20:10 PM

The meeeting happened after the election.
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Post by: justaregularguy on November 28, 2020, 10:57:43 PM
The meeeting happened after the election.
right but the meeting agenda may have changed bc of the election
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 28, 2020, 11:01:31 PM
It makes no sense for Saudi to give Trump a major win now when they can wait 2 months and give it to Biden, unless they're getting something from Trump beforehand. The only thing that sounds plausible is US help/permission anti-Iran actions
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Post by: zh cohen on November 28, 2020, 11:14:33 PM
right but the meeting agenda may have changed bc of the election

If their decision was dependent on who would win the election, wouldn't they wait to schedule the meeting until they knew the outcome of the election?
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Post by: aygart on December 01, 2020, 03:20:57 PM
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Post by: Jellybelly on December 01, 2020, 06:23:03 PM

Theyre already busy with letting the gender-confused people into bathrooms 🤮
Schumer was asked about it today and he says he agrees with Biden and people  should be able to use any bathroom they want
@Baruch can we get a comment on this?
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Post by: Baruch on December 01, 2020, 09:25:55 PM
Theyre already busy with letting the gender-confused people into bathrooms 🤮
Schumer was asked about it today and he says he agrees with Biden and people  should be able to use any bathroom they want
@Baruch can we get a comment on this?
It's terrible. Next time let's run someone who's not an insane narcissist against them. 
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 02, 2020, 12:44:08 AM
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Post by: aygart on January 20, 2021, 12:07:08 PM
The Biden presidency is just SO boring! It is already 5 minutes and NOTHING happened!
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Post by: Yehuda57 on January 20, 2021, 12:48:54 PM
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Post by: Dan on January 20, 2021, 12:58:18 PM
So is Sotomayor a racist for mispronouncing Kamala's name?
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Post by: SSLPhD on January 20, 2021, 10:44:05 PM
So is Sotomayor a racist for mispronouncing Kamala's name?
Lol!  I was one told by an Israeli that I was mispronouncing my own name.  I wonder what that makes me.
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Post by: AsherO on January 20, 2021, 11:22:44 PM
Lol!  I was one told by an Israeli that I was mispronouncing my own name.  I wonder what that makes me.

Haha. Had the same thing with an American who told me how I should be pronouncing my last name. Meanwhile he pronounced his Eastern European last name the Americanized way. Boy did he hear it from me about his hypocrisy.
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Post by: aygart on January 21, 2021, 05:26:18 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-keystone-pipeline-kill-11611184519
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Post by: YitzyS on January 21, 2021, 05:29:45 PM
I never understood this thread's title. What's wrong with being @Toasted? He's one of the most astute members of this forum.
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Post by: AsherO on January 21, 2021, 07:53:04 PM
I never understood this thread's title. What's wrong with being @Toasted? He's one of the most astute members of this forum.

If youre toasted, youre astute. If youre toast, youre a shtut...
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Post by: aygart on January 27, 2021, 02:38:00 PM

Yup those pipline workers should take their plumbing skills and join an assembly line in China!
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 28, 2021, 12:20:07 AM

Yup those pipline workers should take their plumbing skills and join an assembly line in China!
Tesla is building a production facility for solar panels in Buffalo, NY because the government you hate is incetivizing them to do so.

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In line with agreements with the State of New York, Tesla will create 5,000 clean energy jobs in the state over 10 years


https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory2

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Post by: AsherO on January 28, 2021, 08:17:34 AM
Tesla is building a production facility for solar panels in Buffalo, NY because the government you hate is incetivizing them to do so.
 

https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory2

Any chance a significant amount of employees will commute from Canada? That would be ironic...
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Post by: zh cohen on January 28, 2021, 08:40:40 AM
Tesla is building a production facility for solar panels in Buffalo, NY because the government you hate is incetivizing them to do so.

How does that help the 11,000 pipeline workers who had their jobs taken away from them by Joe Biden?
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Post by: aygart on January 28, 2021, 08:43:20 AM
Tesla is building a production facility for solar panels in Buffalo, NY because the government you hate is incetivizing them to do so.
 

https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory2



Without getting involved in the MANY mistaken premises behind this, what is your point? Therefore?
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Post by: yossisch1 on January 28, 2021, 12:19:07 PM
Tesla is building a production facility for solar panels in Buffalo, NY because the government you hate is incetivizing them to do so.
 

https://www.tesla.com/gigafactory2

Could you imagine the amount of pollution those factories  will release into the air?  I wish they made them in China.
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Post by: grodnoking on January 28, 2021, 12:32:44 PM
Could you imagine the amount of pollution those factories  will release into the air?  I wish they made them in China.
Musk has a $100M bounty on the best carbon capture technology. The factory can use whatever it comes up with.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 28, 2021, 12:57:53 PM
How does that help the 11,000 pipeline workers who had their jobs taken away from them by Joe Biden?
The same way car factories and the resultant economic growth eventually found jobs for the drivers of horses and buggies.


Without getting involved in the MANY mistaken premises behind this, what is your point? Therefore?

That Kerry was right to suggest the jobs lost by the pipeline cancellation will pale in comparison to the jobs created by spending trillions on the development of alternative energy, and you were wrong to say those jobs will be in China.

Could you imagine the amount of pollution those factories  will release into the air?  I wish they made them in China.
Funny point but to be pedant, the ozone is affected by pollution the same way whether it is in Texas or China.
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Post by: aygart on January 28, 2021, 01:14:06 PM
That Kerry was right to suggest the jobs lost by the pipeline cancellation will pale in comparison to the jobs created by spending trillions on the development of alternative energy, and you were wrong to say those jobs will be in China.

How does a factory of 5000 workers that may have been opened either way make the cancelation of 10,000 jobs be paled? Are you including other companies too? Did you include other fossil companies where jobs will be lost? Companies which may shut down due to the higher cost of renewable energy? Either you include all or you compare one to one. Where did I say all will be in China?
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 28, 2021, 01:21:24 PM
How does a factory of 5000 workers that may have been opened either way make the cancelation of 10,000 jobs be paled? Are you including other companies too? Did you include other fossil companies where jobs will be lost? Companies which may shut down due to the higher cost of renewable energy? Either you include all or you compare one to one. Where did I say all will be in China?
Renewable energy (after development) cost less than fossil fuels.

Yes, you brought 11,000 job, and I brought 5000 jobs, so it technically you're still right that 6000 jobs are lost, but the point is like the 5000 created, many more will be created. Agree with that or not, I brought an example, not evidence.
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Post by: aygart on January 28, 2021, 01:24:47 PM
Renewable energy (after development) cost less than fossil fuels.

Yes, you brought 11,000 job, and I brought 5000 jobs, so it technically you're still right that 6000 jobs are lost, but the point is like the 5000 created, many more will be created. Agree with that or not, I brought an example, not evidence.
SOME renewable energy after all development cost less than fossil after all development, but taking development, manufacturing, installation, and materials out of the equation is like taking the cost of commodity out of the equation for fossils. Others cost more even after development.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 28, 2021, 01:29:36 PM
SOME renewable energy after all development cost less than fossil after all development, but taking development, manufacturing, installation, and materials out of the equation is like taking the cost of commodity out of the equation for fossils. Others cost more even after development.
The difference is we are printing money for stimulus spending now anyways, so development costs are to a large extent coming out of thin air.

$1T spent build renewable energy will create a lot more jobs than $1T in individual checks, much of which accomplishes nothing by staying in peoples savings.
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Post by: aygart on January 28, 2021, 01:37:49 PM
$1T spent build renewable energy will create a lot more jobs than $1T in individual checks, much of which accomplishes nothing by staying in peoples savings.
The Obama stimulus has shown otherwise about this specific item.
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Post by: zh cohen on January 28, 2021, 07:10:46 PM
The same way car factories and the resultant economic growth eventually found jobs for the drivers of horses and buggies.

If you are right about renewable energy then these jobs will gradually fade out. Biden unilaterally making these jobs illegal does nothing* to create more green jobs.

*Unless his goal is to raise energy prices so that the more expensive "green" energy becomes viable.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 28, 2021, 07:16:24 PM
If you are right about renewable energy then these jobs will gradually fade out. Biden unilaterally making these jobs illegal does nothing* to create more green jobs.

*Unless his goal is to raise energy prices so that the more expensive "green" energy becomes viable.
Closing one source of energy (pipeline) will automatically create more demand for the competition and thus more jobs at the competition.

Separately, green energy laws can also necessitate more labor for the competition, especially so if major new infrastructure development is required.
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Post by: zh cohen on January 28, 2021, 08:04:21 PM
Closing one source of energy (pipeline) will automatically create more demand for the competition and thus more jobs at the competition.

Separately, green energy laws can also necessitate more labor for the competition, especially so if major new infrastructure development is required.

Again, if green energy was actually cheaper and better, then Joe Biden wouldn't have to sign an executive order to put these people out of work. It would happen on its own by people moving organically to what works best for them.

No-one had to outlaw horses in order to create Auto manufacturing jobs
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 28, 2021, 08:15:11 PM
Again, if green energy was actually cheaper and better, then Joe Biden wouldn't have to sign an executive order to put these people out of work. It would happen on its own by people moving organically to what works best for them.

No-one had to outlaw horses in order to create Auto manufacturing jobs

There is no free market involved. The Keystone Pipeline was being financed by the Canadian (Alebrta) Government, and alternative energy will be subsidized by the US Government. America First.
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Post by: zh cohen on January 28, 2021, 08:22:33 PM
There is no free market involved. The Keystone Pipeline was being financed by the Canadian (Alebrta) Government, and alternative energy will be subsidized by the US Government. America First.

Why can't we have both? And why can't America put Alberta out of business by being better, rather than by government coersion?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 28, 2021, 09:05:46 PM
Why can't we have both? And why can't America put Alberta out of business by being better, rather than by government coersion?
It will take too long for alternative energy development to drive Albertas resources out of business, but that is the intention ultimately. How do you expect the US private market to compete with the Canadian government that has monetary creating capability?

Stopping the pipeline is about sacrificing a few thousand short terms jobs for (voters belief it is) harming the planet. The jobs will by definition find their way at the competition, and aren't really part of the equation. Imagine a hospital is killing patents. The government shuts it, then the patients, doctors, and nurses will eventually end up at a better hospital and everybody is better off. It's really a no-brainer when you take the politics out of it.

Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: zh cohen on January 28, 2021, 11:20:11 PM
It will take too long for alternative energy development to drive Albertas resources out of business, but that is the intention ultimately. How do you expect the US private market to compete with the Canadian government that has monetary creating capability?

Stopping the pipeline is about sacrificing a few thousand short terms jobs for (voters belief it is) harming the planet. The jobs will by definition find their way at the competition, and aren't really part of the equation. Imagine a hospital is killing patents. The government shuts it, then the patients, doctors, and nurses will eventually end up at a better hospital and everybody is better off. It's really a no-brainer when you take the politics out of it.

The point is that the new jobs have nothing to do with cutting the pipeline jobs. Democrats are not willing to admit that they don't care about these people's jobs, so they sell a story about (unrelated) increase in jobs.
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Post by: aygart on January 28, 2021, 11:38:29 PM
(voters belief it is)

lol
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 29, 2021, 01:23:24 AM
The point is that the new jobs have nothing to do with cutting the pipeline jobs. Democrats are not willing to admit that they don't care about these people's jobs, so they sell a story about (unrelated) increase in jobs.

You seriously think the GOP cares about these people jobs more than the DNC?

Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: S209 on February 02, 2021, 12:01:22 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-american-jews-politically-correct-bigotry-opinion-1565186
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Post by: ExGingi on February 13, 2021, 09:52:26 PM
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Post by: YitzyS on February 14, 2021, 08:35:35 AM
But no indication if it was toast...
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 15, 2021, 03:15:14 PM

Freedom v nanny state
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 16, 2021, 10:45:39 PM
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Post by: joe1234 on February 17, 2021, 12:26:20 AM
At least he didnt say he knows ALOT of Yiddish... or the most Yiddish ever.. and that nobody knows Yiddish better than me... GLOIB MIR...
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 12:29:38 AM
So when are we going to be toast, he's already Prez for a month.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2021, 12:30:35 AM
So when are we going to be toast, he's already Prez for a month.
Didnt you know Biden is a sham and really theyll remove him and place Kamala?
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Post by: joe1234 on February 17, 2021, 12:32:37 AM
So when are we going to be toast, he's already Prez for a month.
Hes so stupid he dont even know how to mess things up...
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 12:32:49 AM
Didnt you know Biden is a sham and really theyll remove him and place Kamala?
Someone asked Biden tonight, what he would say to all the ppl scared at home, and didnt say thats such a nasty question", we're toast.
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Post by: Jellybelly on February 17, 2021, 12:32:55 AM
Didnt you know Biden is a sham and really theyll remove him and place Kamala?
No need to remove him, its not like hes running the show anyways...
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Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 12:33:59 AM
Hes so stupid he dont even know how to mess things up...
Yep, your Orange God is a such a loser, he lost to a stupid man
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Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 12:35:13 AM
No need to remove him, its not like hes running the show anyways...
Remember when you thought that the person who thought 9/11 was an inside job was missing a few screws? You're now that person.
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Post by: joe1234 on February 17, 2021, 12:37:09 AM
Remember when you thought that the person who thought 9/11 was an inside job was missing a few screws? You're now that person.
He who doesnt believe in any conspiracy theories at all is in his own right a conspiracy theorist.
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Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 12:37:39 AM
Hes so stupid he dont even know how to mess things up...
Btw, there was more wisdom in tonight's town hall than 4 years of Orange Clown's tweets and Presidency.
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Post by: Jellybelly on February 17, 2021, 12:44:39 AM
Without looking, can anyone guess whos liking all of @Baruch s posts?
🙂
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Post by: joe1234 on February 17, 2021, 12:47:30 AM
Without looking, can anyone guess whos liking all of @Baruch s posts?
🙂
Lol
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2021, 12:49:33 AM
Without looking, can anyone guess whos liking all of @Baruch s posts?
🙂
זונוֹת מְפַרְכְּסוֹת זוֹ אֶת זוֹ, תַּלְמִידֵי חֲכָמִים לֹא כָּל שֶׁכֵּן?! (https://www.sefaria.org/Shabbat.34a.2?vhe=William_Davidson_Edition_-_Vocalized_Aramaic&lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en=)
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Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 01:00:23 AM
זונוֹת מְפַרְכְּסוֹת זוֹ אֶת זוֹ, תַּלְמִידֵי חֲכָמִים לֹא כָּל שֶׁכֵּן?! (https://www.sefaria.org/Shabbat.34a.2?vhe=William_Davidson_Edition_-_Vocalized_Aramaic&lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en=)
🔥
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Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 08:29:55 AM
No need to remove him, its not like hes running the show anyways...
The Socialists control him
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Post by: Jellybelly on February 17, 2021, 08:40:10 AM
The Socialists control him
@PlatinumGuy can we get a like over here?
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Post by: AsherO on February 17, 2021, 08:41:13 AM
זונוֹת מְפַרְכְּסוֹת זוֹ אֶת זוֹ, תַּלְמִידֵי חֲכָמִים לֹא כָּל שֶׁכֵּן?! (https://www.sefaria.org/Shabbat.34a.2?vhe=William_Davidson_Edition_-_Vocalized_Aramaic&lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en=)

Which one are you? The קל or the חמור (sic)? :P
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 10:21:43 AM
@PlatinumGuy can we get a like over here?
your immature obsession with likes aside, do you have an intelligent response?
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Post by: aygart on February 17, 2021, 10:34:45 AM
your immature obsession with likes aside, do you have an intelligent response?
Sounds like you are the most angry one here!
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Post by: BP16 on February 17, 2021, 12:54:38 PM
Btw, there was more wisdom in tonight's town hall than 4 years of Orange Clown's tweets and Presidency.
I know and he didn't have pre approved questions and answers because its CNN and they would never allow it!
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Post by: chinagel on February 17, 2021, 01:00:55 PM
I know and he didn't have pre approved questions and answers because its CNN and they would never allow it!
Having preapproved Q&A is indeed much smarter.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2021, 02:02:48 PM
Sounds like you are the most angry one here!

He was furious at it and many people were furious at it, you dont know how angry this country is - DJT.
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Post by: Jellybelly on February 17, 2021, 02:29:31 PM
your immature obsession with likes aside, do you have an intelligent response?
I dont understand the original post
🤷🏻‍♂️
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2021, 06:26:21 PM
Invalid Tweet ID
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Post by: Baruch on February 17, 2021, 08:20:33 PM
I dont understand the original post
🤷🏻‍♂️
Are you serious?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: zh cohen on February 23, 2021, 12:57:36 AM
https://www.axios.com/biden-putin-russia-nord-stream-pipeline-842f5dc5-eb35-42ee-b2e2-6ce7fbb11f74.html
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 23, 2021, 08:14:59 PM

The Radical Left controls Biden

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Post by: Ver hut gazugt on February 23, 2021, 11:12:09 PM

The Radical Left controls Biden

Lets see if they put the same pressure as they put on trump.
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Post by: yitzgar on February 23, 2021, 11:28:42 PM


Lets see if the media talks about it

FTFY
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 24, 2021, 03:32:43 PM


Unity
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Post by: aygart on February 24, 2021, 03:57:09 PM


Unity
What percentage actually know what is in it?
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Post by: BP16 on February 24, 2021, 04:15:11 PM
What percentage actually know what is in it?
They could make a new poll, probably most think that it is only for the $1,400 checks and to keep the unemployment money rolling. if people would know how much other crap is in it they would probably appose, and how many stores will have to lay off workers because they cant offered paying everyone $15 an hour.
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Post by: Jellybelly on February 24, 2021, 04:32:26 PM


Unity
Does anyone know how many abortions this bill will fund?
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Post by: aygart on February 24, 2021, 04:50:34 PM
Unity

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvAWQItXAAU1K2j?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by: zh cohen on February 24, 2021, 07:04:15 PM
Support for Biden's plan is dropping fast

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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 24, 2021, 08:10:34 PM
What percentage actually know what is in it?
Probably a higher percentage than the obstructionist Republican lawmakers
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 24, 2021, 10:08:05 PM
Lets see if they put the same pressure as they put on trump.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvAWQItXAAU1K2j?format=jpg&name=medium)
Do you realize this says Donald Trump is doing more to make Democrats concerned than any other cause?
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Post by: aygart on February 24, 2021, 10:27:40 PM



Do you realize this says Donald Trump is doing more to make Democrats concerned than any other cause?
It doesn't.

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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 24, 2021, 10:30:21 PM
It doesn't.
But, it does
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Post by: aygart on February 24, 2021, 10:34:15 PM
But, it does
He may be, but this doesn't show it.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 24, 2021, 10:37:05 PM
He may be, but this doesn't show it.
It definitely does show that eliminating Donald Trump would eliminate the primary cause of concern for almost half the country.
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Post by: Jellybelly on February 24, 2021, 10:55:33 PM
It definitely does show that eliminating Donald Trump would eliminate the primary cause of concern for almost half the country.
It just shows hows hes living in their heads, Can we get some Federal funding to study the long term effects of TDS?
😂😂
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Post by: aygart on February 24, 2021, 11:24:19 PM
It definitely does show that eliminating Donald Trump would eliminate the primary cause of concern for almost half the country.
THat and the way someone may look at them the wrong way.
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Post by: Jellybelly on February 25, 2021, 09:04:12 AM


Unity
Maybe they should see the RSC report. I just read but I dont know how to post it. Its a 3 page report by Chairman Jim Banks that goes through all the problems with this Bill.
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Post by: yungermanchik on February 25, 2021, 08:22:41 PM
Maybe they should see the RSC report. I just read but I dont know how to post it. Its a 3 page report by Chairman Jim Banks that goes through all the problems with this Bill.
https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rsc_spending_memo.pdf
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Post by: aygart on February 25, 2021, 08:30:17 PM
https://banks.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rsc_spending_memo.pdf
After the way they spent like a  bunch of drunkards, it is pretty clear that the R's issue is not spending but whose spending.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 25, 2021, 08:59:45 PM
Maybe they should see the RSC report. I just read but I dont know how to post it. Its a 3 page report by Chairman Jim Banks that goes through all the problems with this Bill.
You realize the Republicans opposed it when it was literally 1 page that simply said 'Replace $600 with $2000'?

Classic GOP MO, create a false narrative to oppose any kind of progress by demonizing the dems and masking the real reason they're opposing it.
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Post by: aygart on February 25, 2021, 09:06:52 PM
You realize the Republicans opposed it when it was literally 1 page that simply said 'Replace $600 with $2000'?

Classic GOP MO, create a false narrative to oppose any kind of progress by demonizing the dems and masking the real reason they're opposing it.
what you call progress is not what they call progress
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 25, 2021, 09:09:47 PM
what you call progress is not what they call progress
Of course, but conservatives by definition are interested in preservation of the status quo more than progress. Abstaining from action may be superior, but isn't progress.

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Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 26, 2021, 01:04:13 AM
Biden is a puppet of The Radical Left


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Post by: ExGingi on February 26, 2021, 07:10:34 AM
What percentage actually know what is in it?

Not even something to be considered a rounding error above 0%.
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Post by: ExGingi on March 02, 2021, 02:18:51 AM
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 02, 2021, 01:53:10 PM

Quote
The last six presidents also have not delivered an official State of the Union during the year in which they were inaugurated, according to the Congressional Research Service.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/02/24/fact-check-state-union-has-no-annual-requirement-deadline/4575682001/
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Post by: BP16 on March 02, 2021, 03:25:34 PM
The more he has to speak the more senile he sounds, so the more they could get away from him speaking the better it is.
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Post by: zh cohen on March 02, 2021, 06:56:55 PM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/02/24/fact-check-state-union-has-no-annual-requirement-deadline/4575682001/

He didn't ask about the State of the Union, he asked about an address to a joint session of Congress.
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Post by: aygart on March 02, 2021, 07:00:51 PM
He didn't ask about the State of the Union, he asked about an address to a joint session of Congress.
Why would he be addressing a joint session of congress now?
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Post by: zh cohen on March 02, 2021, 07:16:53 PM
Why would he be addressing a joint session of congress now?

Every president since Reagan did in their first year (iinm all before the end of February). Also, he said he would.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 02, 2021, 07:43:40 PM
He didn't ask about the State of the Union
The tweet literally says 'SOTU'
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Post by: grodnoking on March 02, 2021, 07:58:23 PM
The tweet literally says 'SOTU'
It also says "address to congress" which is more letters than "state of the union", so clearly "(SOTU)" is just explaining what type of speech he expected him to give.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 02, 2021, 08:06:53 PM
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Post by: zh cohen on March 02, 2021, 08:12:47 PM
The tweet literally says 'SOTU'

Yes, because while the speech in the first year is not technically a SOTU, it is often refered to that way.

Also, the dishonesty of USA Today "fact check" in finding a rando on Facebook that goes too far in making the claim, and then making it seem like there is nothing to see here is...
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 02, 2021, 08:15:23 PM
Yes, because while the speech in the first year is not technically a SOTU, it is often refered to that way.

He didn't ask about the State of the Union

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Post by: ExGingi on March 03, 2021, 07:29:55 PM
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 03, 2021, 11:35:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evk4f7LWYAEqEm8?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: grodnoking on March 04, 2021, 09:43:30 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Evk4f7LWYAEqEm8?format=jpg&name=large)
State taxes increased due to lack of taxes being paid due to Covid in some places.

For example, Ocean County in Lakewood made MORE taxes due to increased development and such, while the state lost due to less driving and other reasons. Ocean County lowered their taxes but everyone's taxes are going up because the state of NJ raised their taxes.

Same thing in FL, while local revenue is up, State revenue is down due to lack of tourism. Instead of raising taxes they are trying to find budget cuts.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 04, 2021, 04:28:06 PM
State taxes increased due to lack of taxes being paid due to Covid in some places
Can you give me an example of a state that increased their taxation?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: grodnoking on March 04, 2021, 04:59:13 PM


Can you give me an example of a state that increased their taxation?



The State of NJ

Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 04, 2021, 08:31:27 PM
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Excalibur on March 11, 2021, 12:31:46 AM
Have faith in our president elect. He is not a leftist liberal.

This aged well
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 11, 2021, 04:03:01 AM
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Jellybelly on March 12, 2021, 01:18:05 PM
Am I the only one infuriated by the fact that Biden said we will be open by July 4th and not Juneteenth??
Hes racist and we must demand an apology!
I think he must go further and try to reconcile with the African American community and he must renounce his white privilege
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 12, 2021, 01:37:15 PM


Biden said we will be open by July 4th

Fake news. He only said close family.

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Post by: Jellybelly on March 12, 2021, 01:46:02 PM
Fake news. He only said close family.
Your just as bad as the reporters that are trying to say theres a crisis by the border while its clearly just a challenge no reason to harp on the terminology. The issue here is that hes showing significance to July 4th which commemorates a bunch of racist white guys and their racist country and not Juneteenth which  celebrates real Americans
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2021, 10:27:18 AM
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 14, 2021, 11:01:04 AM

Then they take off their sunglasses and realize that each benefit was to Trump's credit. Maybe not the "money to schools" but that doesn't help them reopen until the union members finish their spring break can be safe in school.
(this is really getting to trolling and I should stop)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: zh cohen on March 14, 2021, 11:46:30 AM
Then they take off their sunglasses and realize that each benefit was to Trump's credit. Maybe not the "money to schools" but that doesn't help them reopen until the union members finish their spring break can be safe in school.

Actually the "money to schools" is the least supportable claim. Half of it won't be spent until after 2023, and if schools were following Biden's guidance most would be re-opening later not sooner
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: YitzyS on March 14, 2021, 12:24:37 PM
After we finish portraying how this guy is so wrong from the political standpoint, someone should point out to him that if he has kids in school then he may want to look into why he only got $2,800 stimulus money.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: ExGingi on March 14, 2021, 01:07:43 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/12/president-biden-crumbling-eyes/amp/

Paywall free version of the Telegraph story

https://www.livenguide.com/status/20688-le-trung-tinh.html
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: AsherO on March 14, 2021, 03:23:25 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/12/president-biden-crumbling-eyes/amp/

Paywall free version of the Telegraph story

https://www.livenguide.com/status/20688-le-trung-tinh.html

Very sad reality.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 14, 2021, 03:24:21 PM
Very sad reality.
Says something about the guy he beat
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: AsherO on March 14, 2021, 03:26:49 PM
Says something about the guy he beat

Not necessarily. It could just say something about how the guy he beat was portrayed.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 14, 2021, 03:32:32 PM
Not necessarily. It could just say something about how the guy he beat was portrayed.
He had his chances to correct portrayals. He was overconfident this time around and lost to someone with dementia
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: ExGingi on March 14, 2021, 03:38:45 PM
He had his chances to correct portrayals. He was overconfident this time around and lost to someone with dementia

He lost to the Democrat Party machine.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 14, 2021, 03:43:14 PM
He lost to the Democrat Party machine.
The same one he beat four years earlier
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: AsherO on March 14, 2021, 04:01:04 PM
The same one he beat four years earlier

They underestimated him 4 years earlier and only won because of mail-in voting.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: AsherO on March 14, 2021, 04:01:36 PM
He had his chances to correct portrayals. He was overconfident this time around and lost to someone with dementia

He was overconfident, I agree.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: ExGingi on March 14, 2021, 04:24:36 PM
They underestimated him 4 years earlier and only won because of mail-in voting.

And the senate flipped because Georgia allowed people to register and vote between the regular election day and the runoff election, and allow them to mail in their votes.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 14, 2021, 05:26:25 PM
And the senate flipped because Georgia allowed people to register and vote between the regular election day and the runoff election, and allow them to mail in their votes.
Yup, the Rs need to up their game.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: shabbosabba on March 14, 2021, 05:35:58 PM
Yup, the Rs need to up their game.
agreed, it's not fair. I was a registered Republican so I only got to vote once.  :P
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: yesitsme on March 14, 2021, 06:28:59 PM
why do all the gas stations advertise [mortgage] interest rates?

what is it today 3.10?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: grodnoking on March 14, 2021, 07:03:02 PM
Hmmm,
Trump gave out 3,200
Trump said vaccine will be available to all in April
Trump begged schools to reopen, States refused, but now the science changed.

Biden didn't give enough press conferences.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2021, 07:10:36 PM
He lost to the Democrat Party machine.
If you can't win a debate against a guy that supposedly has dementia then you don't deserve to win.
Trump didn't prepare for the first debate and it showed. It was tough to watch.
Sad!
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: ExGingi on March 14, 2021, 07:54:22 PM
If you can't win a debate against a guy that supposedly has dementia then you don't deserve to win.
Trump didn't prepare for the first debate and it showed. It was tough to watch.
Sad!

Indeed. He was overconfident.

As @aygart rightfully pointed out, his opponents in 2020 AND in 2016 were hand-picked and appointed by the Democrat Party machine. It was more blatant and obvious in 2020 than in 2016. And while in 2016 he outsmarted them, in 2020 he was overconfident and miscalculated what could happen with mail-in ballots and a determined Democrat Party machine (in 2016 it was the Democrats that were overconfident, as evidenced by the part HRC had prepared with barges firing fireworks off the Hudson River).

Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: yelped on March 14, 2021, 09:00:05 PM
why do all the gas stations advertise [mortgage] interest rates?

what is it today 3.10?
Don't know how this ended up in this thread, but it's funny.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 16, 2021, 03:59:47 PM
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 24, 2021, 09:49:27 AM
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 24, 2021, 10:41:40 AM
How does that change if you go start by Nov 9 when it was clear that Biden won? (what if you use CV's goalposts of inauguration day).

Either way, pointing out campaign predictions that didn't pan out can be a full time job even if it is only one sided.

PS I am on the record many times saying that the market is a poor way of measuring anything about a presidency.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 24, 2021, 11:20:28 AM
How does that change if you go start by Nov 9 when it was clear that Biden won? (what if you use CV's goalposts of inauguration day).

Either way, pointing out campaign predictions that didn't pan out can be a full time job even if it is only one sided.

PS I am on the record many times saying that the market is a poor way of measuring anything about a presidency.
1. No idea
2. The point is the world didnt come down crashing because Biden won, nothing to do with campaign predictions
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: aygart on March 24, 2021, 11:23:12 AM
1. No idea
2. The point is the world didnt come down crashing because Biden won, nothing to do with campaign predictions
Oh okay. To me that was a pretty obvious thing, but I guess there are those to whom it is not just like there were those who felt the world would come down crashing when Trump won (or that felt that all problems would be solved by either)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 24, 2021, 11:31:12 AM
Oh okay. To me that was a pretty obvious thing, but I guess there are those to whom it is not just like there were those who felt the world would come down crashing when Trump won (or that felt that all problems would be solved by either)
See thread title
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: stooges44 on April 01, 2021, 06:48:26 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/biden-administration-quietly-ramping-aid-palestinians-76790948
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: lubaby on April 01, 2021, 07:12:49 AM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/biden-administration-quietly-ramping-aid-palestinians-76790948
Summary:

US give money to PA to support Terror = no.
US give money to PA for approved spending, so PA has extra of their own money to support Terror = yes.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 07:16:28 AM
Summary:

US give money to PA to support Terror = no.
US give money to PA for approved spending, so PA has extra of their own money to support Terror = yes.

Sounds like the new administration is more pro-Israel, BH.

Quote
Several months ago, President Trump rejected a request by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to allow U.S. aid to be transferred to Palestinian security forces and told aides that Netanyahu should pay for it, U.S. officials told me.

https://www.axios.com/trump-israel-netanyahu-security-aid-palestine-4b22707f-636a-4568-bd80-94da0dcccc77.html
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: grodnoking on April 01, 2021, 10:37:47 AM
Sounds like the new administration is more pro-Israel, BH.

https://www.axios.com/trump-israel-netanyahu-security-aid-palestine-4b22707f-636a-4568-bd80-94da0dcccc77.html
Trump didn't send any money to the PA because some of it would likely fund terror. He also didnt send 12M that Israel wanted him to send for border security because the PA refused to play ball with him.

Biden sent 100M, 12 of which was what Israel wanted.

Lemme do the math.

100M+ they didn't want sent - not sent.
12M they wanted set - not sent.

=88M pro Israel

88M they didnt want sent - sent.
12M they wanted sent -sent.

= 76M anti Israel.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 10:39:15 AM
Trump didn't send any money to the PA because some of it would likely fund terror. He also didnt send 12M that Israel wanted him to send for border security because the PA refused to play ball with him.

Biden sent 100M, 12 of which was what Israel wanted.

Lemme do the math.

100M+ they didn't want sent - not sent.
12M they wanted set - not sent.

=88M pro Israel

88M they didnt want sent - sent.
12M they wanted sent -sent.

= 76M anti Israel.

Source that Israel didn't want it?

How many times did Bibbi send the Mossad chief to Qatar to beg for $$$ for Hamas?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: grodnoking on April 01, 2021, 10:42:10 AM



How many times did Bibbi send the Mossad chief to Qatar to beg for $$$ for Hamas?

How many times?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 10:44:55 AM

How many times?
I asked first.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: Jellybelly on April 01, 2021, 11:51:07 AM
I asked first.
Its not a fair question for @grodnoking because he doesnt watch CNN
😜
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 12:03:42 PM
Its not a fair question for @grodnoking because he doesnt watch CNN
😜
Huh? What part of what I said has anything to do with CNN? I don't have a TV at home.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: AsherO on April 01, 2021, 12:10:27 PM
How many times did Bibbi send the Mossad chief to Qatar to beg for $$$ for Hamas?

Source? How is Hamas good for Israel?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 12:35:06 PM
Source? How is Hamas good for Israel?
The reports come up periodically so I won't search for all instances, but here are a few:

https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5682371,00.html

https://www.maariv.co.il/news/military/Article-783292

This isn't a disputed story, Qatar gives Hamas money every month with Israel's blessing and it is usually transferred via Israel

לעולם הוי מתפלל בשלומה של מלכות... Israel wants quiet and Hamas/PA maintain the quiet so long as money is flowing, saving Israel from the need to sacrifice soldiers lives to control the Arabs themselves. Just this week the PA rescued 2 Israelis who idiotically (and criminally) went shopping in Hebron... Hundreds of thousands of Jews live in territories surrounded by hostile Arabs and their safety is guaranteed by the PA, who work closely with Israeli security forces. In the past couple of years the only terrorist attacks are isolated & impulsive lone wolfs whom it's nearly impossible to stop in advance.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: stooges44 on April 07, 2021, 02:22:39 PM
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/biden-administration-quietly-ramping-aid-palestinians-76790948

https://breaking911.com/breaking-biden-admin-restores-millions-in-aid-to-palestinians/
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: BP16 on April 08, 2021, 01:35:16 PM
https://breaking911.com/breaking-biden-admin-restores-millions-in-aid-to-palestinians/
So that means they could start paying for more terrorists to kill Israelis? I hope those Jews who voted for Biden are still proud for voting for him!
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: savvydigz on April 18, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
Are we even arguing who was more pro Israel?
This is not a matter of dispute, unanimously all would agree that it was Trump. not that the Dems give him credit for it to the contrary they are quite satisfied with Bidens stance. We dont have to go through all Trumps policies everyone knows them.
Just look at how many times Trump mentioned Isreal, in virtually every speech it popped up, he has a love for the country just see how good his relationship was with the pm.
I see it as a disgrace when Jews will go and defend Biden as a lover towards Israel when he himself has no interest  in showing it. How many times  has he even mentioned Israel?
Dont fool yourself through the lens of deception the fact is Trump is the most pro Israel pres the Us has ever had.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 18, 2021, 08:25:24 PM
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Post by: AsherO on April 18, 2021, 08:28:24 PM

What are they trying to say? That if he called Bibi it would be swept under the rug?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: CountValentine on April 18, 2021, 08:29:36 PM
Just look at how many times Trump mentioned Isreal, in virtually every speech it popped up, he has a love for the country just see how good his relationship was with the pm.
Just like his love for Putin?  :P
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 23, 2021, 09:37:37 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzqLCyjX0AAzcUM?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 23, 2021, 10:16:48 AM
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: CountValentine on April 23, 2021, 11:03:38 AM
You don't hear a peep from the kool-aid drinkers on this. We don't move the goalposts and Biden is killing it.
The Trumpsters should be like pigs in sh*t.  :)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 23, 2021, 11:48:24 AM
You don't hear a peep from the kool-aid drinkers on this. We don't move the goalposts and Biden is killing it.
The Trumpsters should be like pigs in sh*t.  :)
Now they just say it's a bubble.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: CountValentine on April 23, 2021, 11:52:03 AM
Now they just say it's a bubble.
Trumpsters by me say it is a continuation of the Trump market.
I ask was Trumps run up a continuation of the BO market. Don't think I need to tell you the answer.  :)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 23, 2021, 11:56:47 AM
Trumpsters by me say it is a continuation of the Trump market.
I ask was Trumps run up a continuation of the BO market. Don't think I need to tell you the answer.  :)
Lol. In truth Trump and Obama's markets were both continuations of Bush's detested Wall Street bailouts, but Obama's stimulus did more to keep it going, at least until Trump's covid stimulus.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: YitzyS on April 23, 2021, 02:23:01 PM
I would respond but I feel bad interrupting this sweet conversation between CV and PG...  :D
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Post by: CountValentine on April 23, 2021, 02:37:00 PM
I would respond but I feel bad interrupting this sweet conversation between CV and PG...  :D
Just the facts, Jack!
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: YitzyS on April 23, 2021, 03:13:37 PM
I am not an economist, and I don't really understand this whole field well, but for the sake of the conversation, I'll write the answer Ben Shapiro gave to this. I'm not saying it's true, as again, I don't know this field well, but I'll post it and you are welcome to refute it. Here's his claim.

The Democrats are destroying the economy now, but they are getting away with it because the numbers are countered by the natural growth that the economy is seeing from people going back to work and back to business after COVID. We shut the economy for COVID, and we're opening it back up again, so there is naturally growth as we slide back into the pre-pandemic economy. Biden's detrimental policies are not as apparent because they are hiding behind that growth.

Should I put the butter away now?
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: CountValentine on April 23, 2021, 03:16:17 PM
Should I put the butter away now?
You were doing so good but now you switched to the Kool-aid.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: YitzyS on April 23, 2021, 03:19:26 PM
You were doing so good but now you switched to the Kool-aid.
Kool-aid implies that you believe everything. I do not believe that, I'm just doing DDF a service by presenting his perspective on the conversation.
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: CountValentine on April 23, 2021, 03:21:16 PM
Kool-aid implies that you believe everything. I do not believe that, I'm just doing DDF a service by presenting his perspective on the conversation.
The problem is like when you retweet something and say you don't believe it.  :)
Since you are on a roll I believe you.
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Post by: yesitsme on April 25, 2021, 11:43:02 PM
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Post by: zh cohen on April 25, 2021, 11:50:58 PM

And it only warrants mention in paragraph 22 of 26 in the article...
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Post by: yesitsme on April 26, 2021, 12:15:12 AM
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Post by: CountValentine on April 26, 2021, 02:53:16 AM
Can we use the NYT as a valid source? Just want to make sure we understand the ground rules.  :)
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 26, 2021, 06:38:26 AM
Good time to remember when Trump ratted Israel out to Putin and endangered the life of at least one Israeli spy

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001192154

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Post by: aygart on April 26, 2021, 08:13:59 AM
Good time to remember when Trump ratted Israel out to Putin and endangered the life of at least one Israeli spy

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001192154 (https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001192154)



But officer.....
Eitehr way, comparing telling Putin to telling Iran is a totally ridiculous comparison. Makes one nostalgic for the good old days.
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Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 26, 2021, 02:43:52 PM
But officer.....
Eitehr way, comparing telling Putin to telling Iran is a totally ridiculous comparison. Makes one nostalgic for the good old days.

Trump leaked an ongoing operation and endangered Israelis.

Kerry leaked to Zarif information on prior Israeli air strikes that the Iranian IRGC victims tried to hide from their Foreign Minister. These are successful previous air strikes against Iranian assets, the idea that they heard about it for the first time from Kerry is beyond laughable.

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Post by: mushkovits on April 27, 2021, 01:05:02 AM
Trump leaked an ongoing operation and endangered Israelis.

Kerry leaked to Zarif information on prior Israeli air strikes that the Iranian IRGC victims tried to hide from their Foreign Minister. These are successful previous air strikes against Iranian assets, the idea that they heard about it for the first time from Kerry is beyond laughable.
Trump is chief of command and can do whatever he feels is right and in the best interesting d the USA. How do you justify a former secretary leaking info?!?! Wtg is he talking to adversaries and in what capacity
Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 27, 2021, 05:03:16 AM
Trump is chief of command and can do whatever he feels is right and in the best interesting d the USA. How do you justify a former secretary leaking info?!?! Wtg is he talking to adversaries and in what capacity
Are you seriously defending recklessly throwing Israeli agents under the bus because Trump thought it was in the best interest of USA?

Title: Re: ***Biden wins presidency-Boy are we toast***
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 27, 2021, 05:54:21 AM
Good time to remember when Trump ratted Israel out to Putin and endangered the life of at least one Israeli spy

https://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1001192154
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump%27s_disclosures_of_classified_information
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Post by: jj1000 on April 27, 2021, 09:02:11 AM
Are you seriously defending recklessly throwing Israeli agents under the bus because Trump thought it was in the best interest of USA?

John Hudson be like: Hey guys, you know that thing John Kerry said he totally didn't do, here is why he did it...

Love it.
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Post by: zh cohen on April 27, 2021, 01:40:42 PM
John Hudson be like: Hey guys, you know that thing John Kerry said he totally didn't do, here is why he did it...

Love it.

Ben Rhodes be like: Hey guys, you know that thing John Kerry said he totally didn't do, here is why it's no big deal that he did it...