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Title: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 07:55:56 AM
Now that we finally have a leader that understands masks do work will more start to wear masks? I believe and hope so.
How many more Americans have to die needlessly to stop making this about politics?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/utah-governor-declares-emergency-issues-mask-mandate-we-cannot-afford-to-debate-this-issue/ar-BB1aPTAk
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: JMHO on November 09, 2020, 08:01:20 AM
Another thread...

Yes, I'm sure many opinions on masks will change after seeing the grand Biden/Harris 'plan'.
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: S209 on November 09, 2020, 08:03:23 AM
Now that we finally have a leader that understands masks do work will more start to wear masks? I believe and hope so.
How many more Americans have to die needlessly to stop making this about politics?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/utah-governor-declares-emergency-issues-mask-mandate-we-cannot-afford-to-debate-this-issue/ar-BB1aPTAk
Wrong board. Post here (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=115316.msg2340972#new)
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: Proisrael on November 09, 2020, 08:14:23 AM
Now that we finally have a leader that understands masks do work will more start to wear masks? I believe and hope so.
How many more Americans have to die needlessly to stop making this about politics?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/utah-governor-declares-emergency-issues-mask-mandate-we-cannot-afford-to-debate-this-issue/ar-BB1aPTAk

Israel has had a mask mandate since March. We also had a point where we were the leader in infections per capita. Masks do not help slow the rate of infection.
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: AsherO on November 09, 2020, 08:16:12 AM
Israel has had a mask mandate since March. We also had a point where we were the leader in infections per capita. Masks do not help slow the rate of infection.

Were people strictly following the mandates?

Maybe theyíre most effective at keeping the Rt below 1 before the virus is widespread?
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: Proisrael on November 09, 2020, 08:23:58 AM
Were people strictly following the mandates?

Maybe theyíre most effective at keeping the Rt below 1 before the virus is widespread?

Most people definitely followed the mandates. Who cares if the virus is widespread, if the mask works it should work regardless how many people have it.
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 08:26:14 AM
Masks do not help slow the rate of infection.
The experts in the field disagree with you. Going to have to defer to them.
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: S209 on November 09, 2020, 08:45:57 AM
Most people definitely followed the mandates.
More than 80% of infections were in the Chareidi and Arab sectors. Itís common knowledge that the rate of compliance was far lower among those groups. More than some other places? Sure. But compliance was a far cry from the 85%-95% necessary to significantly impact widespread infection.

Sure enough, 80% of infections occurred in the 20% of society that was not as vigilant about mask wearing. And spare me the indignation. Iíve seen the photos of Vizhnitz etc. and have plenty of family there as well. While you might be able to point to some subgroups that were careful, there were plenty that completely disregarded the mandates (except on the streets because they didnít want to be fined).

Who cares if the virus is widespread, if the mask works it should work regardless how many people have it.
Thatís not how science works.
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: CountValentine on November 09, 2020, 08:52:21 AM
Thatís not how science works.
It seems some are thinking masks = cure or they are 100% effective.
Title: Re: Will more people start wearing masks?
Post by: nucheiner on November 09, 2020, 10:25:07 AM
It seems some are thinking masks = cure or they are 100% effective.
Politicians think mask(regulations)=control