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Title: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on December 03, 2020, 10:27:31 AM
GULF AIR TO START DIRECT FLIGHTS TO TEL AVIV JAN. 7, 202

Thursday, December 3, 2020 05:43 PM
By Dana Khraiche

(Bloomberg) --Decision by Bahrain’s state-owned carrier Gulf Air to launch flights subject to government approvals, according to statement.
Gulf Air, El Al sign MOU to discuss potential codeshare operations between Manama and Tel Aviv
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on December 03, 2020, 10:54:04 AM
Gulf Air and EL AL Airlines Sign Agreement in Tel Aviv

Tel Aviv, Israel 03 December, 2020: Gulf Air, the national carrier of the Kingdom of Bahrain, and EL AL Airlines, Israel's national airline, are set to embark on a historic collaboration following the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) during an official visit from the Kingdom of Bahrain to the State of Israel.

The MOU was signed at the Hilton Tel Aviv by the Chairman of Gulf Air’s Board of Directors H.E. Mr. Zayed R. Alzayani and the Chairman of EL AL Airlines’ Board of Directors Mr. David Brodet. H.E. Mr. Alzayani also announced at the ceremony the launch of Gulf Air’s direct flights go Tel Aviv starting from, January 7, 2021 - subject to government approvals - with 2 weekly flights. The MOU signing and announcement of the airline’s newest destination launch follows the recent announcement of peace between the Kingdom of Bahrain and the State of Israel and the political, commercial and civil aviation agreements signed recently between the two countries.

H.E. Mr. Alzayani commented: “We are delighted to announce the launch of our Bahrain – Tel Aviv route as part of the historic initiation of Bahraini – Israeli relations. As the national carrier of the Kingdom of Bahrain; we take great pride in supporting our leadership and Kingdom in their role of preserving peace and prosperity in the region. We hope this is merely the beginning of developing further aviation opportunities and look forward to work with our friends and colleagues at EL AL and support each other to achieve bigger goals. We trust this new route will promote traffic providing commercial and social gains for both countries, while paving the path for numerous connections to the rest of our networks via the two destinations”.

Mr. Brodet stated: "The opportunity to explore a potential cooperation with Gulf Air is a direct result of the changes taking place in the region. We at EL AL look forward to seeing how we can offer our passengers new and exciting options - it goes well beyond just the flights but with expanding in the areas of cargo, maintenance and travel technology with EL AL's Cockpit innovation hub. I welcome H.E. Mr. Alzayani to Israel and look forward to visiting Bahrain in the future."

The comprehensive MOU sets the foundation to discuss potential joint codeshare operations between Manama and Tel Aviv, as well as on the global flight networks beyond the two carriers’ hubs, and contains plans for greater commercial cooperation in the fields of loyalty, cargo, engineering, travel technology and any area that can benefit both airlines and their customers.

Last month the airline operated the first ever and historic flight between Bahrain and Israel that carried the Kingdom’s delegation headed by Bahrain’s Foreign Minister H.E. Abdul Latif Al Zayani which inaugurated the new flight code GF972 and the return flight of GF973, representing the international dialling codes of both countries.
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: Dan on December 03, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
What kind of partnership can you have with an airline that doesn't offer connecting flights?
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on December 03, 2020, 11:06:00 AM
What kind of partnership can you have with an airline that doesn't offer connecting flights?
Allows to reduce the head to head competition on the direct route.

I don't know their network well, biut don't they cover Asia, including MLE?
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on December 03, 2020, 11:32:42 AM
Better than nothing  :)
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Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: Dan on December 03, 2020, 11:38:39 AM
Allows to reduce the head to head competition on the direct route.

I don't know their network well, biut don't they cover Asia, including MLE?
I mean LY offering connections. What is LY bringing to the table?
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on December 03, 2020, 11:44:02 AM
I mean LY offering connections. What is LY bringing to the table?
Bringing additional traffic into GF
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: yochai on December 03, 2020, 11:50:01 AM
I mean LY offering connections. What is LY bringing to the table?
Can’t they offer connections from Europe to the gulf?
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: yandmk on December 03, 2020, 12:32:20 PM
Can’t they offer connections from Europe to the gulf?
El Al rarely has published fares with stops in TLV. Like the never offered connections from EU to PEK, HKG, BKK etc.
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: Dan on December 03, 2020, 12:39:00 PM
El Al rarely has published fares with stops in TLV. Like the never offered connections from EU to PEK, HKG, BKK etc.
They really need to lobby for secure transit.
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on December 03, 2020, 12:42:28 PM
They really need to lobby for secure transit.
I don't understand why it's not happening already.
When you land in tlv there is that gateway for connecting passengers.. I used it a long time for a secure transit for a flight to Eilat.

I think it's just the lack of commercial offering. The infrastructure is there. imho
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 03, 2020, 12:46:03 PM
I don't understand why it's not happening already.
When you land in tlv there is that gateway for connecting passengers.. I used it a long time for a secure transit for a flight to Eilat.

I think it's just the lack of commercial offering. The infrastructure is there. imho
It's a separate passport control desk but you still have to go through passport control. That isn't what's stopping people from buying flights through TLV.
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on December 03, 2020, 12:49:41 PM
It's a separate passport control desk but you still have to go through passport control. That isn't what's stopping people from buying flights through TLV.
Can you elaborate?
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: moe8555 on December 04, 2020, 06:58:59 AM
I would imagine that these partnerships are in effect the beginning/groundwork for a legitimate transfer offering once and for all.
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: tavster on January 20, 2021, 08:16:33 AM
When will LY finalize their code share???


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Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 23, 2021, 10:39:59 PM
Can you elaborate?
There is no sterile transit in Israel, there is just a separate passport control booth for passengers transiting. Plenty of people would transit in Israel now if the airlines marketed it competitively. The US & Canada amongst many other countries have PP control for some transit pax and still get plenty of transit pax.

A large portion of airline passengers would do anything to save a few bucks.
Title: Re: GULF AIR, EL AL SIGN MOU ON POTENTIAL JOINT CODESHARE OPS
Post by: AsherO on January 23, 2021, 11:01:34 PM
A large portion of airline passengers would do anything buy the cheaper ticket and not realize the added hassle to save a few bucks.

FTFY. It isn't necessarily a conscious choice. Most passengers aren't familiar with the transfer experience at all the airports they could potentially transit at.