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Title: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on January 20, 2021, 12:15:07 PM
Never thought I would say this.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on January 20, 2021, 12:16:54 PM
The Biden presidency is just SO boring! It is already 5 minutes and NOTHING happened!
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: ShimshonK on January 20, 2021, 12:24:46 PM
Feel free to tag all those that have been swearing since November that this won't happen.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: AsherO on January 20, 2021, 01:39:24 PM
Wake me up when he actually does something unifying...
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on January 20, 2021, 01:48:44 PM
Wake me up when he actually does something unifying...
You sure you don't want to be woken for your kids' chasunos?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: AsherO on January 20, 2021, 01:50:14 PM
You sure you don't want to be woken for your kids' chasunos?

#context
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on January 20, 2021, 01:52:28 PM
#context
I meant that if you are waiting for Biden to do something unifying, you may be waiting a really long time...
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: AsherO on January 20, 2021, 02:05:58 PM
I meant that if you are waiting for Biden to do something unifying, you may be waiting a really long time...

I think we're both saying the same thing.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Randomex on January 20, 2021, 04:38:53 PM
Never thought I would say this.

You were sure Obama wouldn't be assassinated?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on January 20, 2021, 05:40:13 PM
So he is signing executive orders undoing Trump deeds. this is a vicious cycle. 
I think we need:
A. longer presidential terms,
B. presidents can't just undo their predecessors actions so easily.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on January 20, 2021, 05:47:10 PM
So he is signing executive orders undoing Trump deeds. this is a vicious cycle. 
I think we need:
A. longer presidential terms,
B. presidents can't just undo their predecessors actions so easily.
Did you feel the same way when Trump undid Obama executive orders?
כבולעו כך פולטו
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: ExGingi on January 20, 2021, 05:59:23 PM
Well, did you hear about the human caravan making its way from Honduras? You really think they will be stopped from entering the US? You think they rigged the GA runoff with all the new voter registrations? There are many more being imported now.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: skyguy918 on January 20, 2021, 06:03:35 PM
So he is signing executive orders undoing Trump deeds. this is a vicious cycle. 
I think we need:
A. longer presidential terms,
B. presidents can't just undo their predecessors actions so easily.
It's very simple. It's the legislative branch that's been broken, which is why the executive branch has tried to fill the void with EO's.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on January 20, 2021, 06:10:46 PM
It's very simple. It's the legislative branch that's been broken, which is why the executive branch has tried to fill the void with EO's.
Alternatively, the legislative branch is working as designed and the executive tries to ruin it with EOs
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on January 20, 2021, 06:30:52 PM
Did you feel the same way when Trump undid Obama executive orders?
כבולעו כך פולטו
did you see that I wrote longer republican terms? ::)
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on January 20, 2021, 06:38:16 PM
the executive tries to ruin it with EOs

That's only possible because the legislature has ceded so much power to the executive and executive agencies.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on January 21, 2021, 05:40:45 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/02RGtytw/f3ea4694-2fe6-4046-872d-2c7b497cbde2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDh6TbwY)



Wow, Biden must be a lot more senile than we thought!
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on January 24, 2021, 10:08:58 AM
‘Nothing We Can Do To Change Trajectory Of Pandemic’ - Joe Biden


Same person that complained that Trump did nothing.

Typical lying politician. Lies and paints Trump bad just to get the position of president
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: AsherO on January 24, 2021, 01:06:29 PM
‘Nothing We Can Do To Change Trajectory Of Pandemic’ - Joe Biden

Is this was he said today? Talks out of both sides of his mouth.

How is anyone supposed to respect his request to mask up when he says this?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: TimT on January 24, 2021, 01:24:24 PM
Is this was he said today? Talks out of both sides of his mouth.

How is anyone supposed to respect his request to mask up when he says this?
Do you know anyone who masked up since he took office ?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: AsherO on January 24, 2021, 01:27:01 PM
Do you know anyone who masked up since he took office ?

That is it the point. Either people should mask up, or we cannot change the trajectory of the pandemic. The two are mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 24, 2021, 01:52:44 PM
That is it the point. Either people should mask up, or we cannot change the trajectory of the pandemic. The two are mutually exclusive.
People should mask up yet we cannot change the trajectory of the pandemic because they won't listen. That's not only possible but pretty much what's been happening for the last year.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: TimT on January 24, 2021, 02:13:55 PM
That is it the point. Either people should mask up, or we cannot change the trajectory of the pandemic. The two are mutually exclusive.
Either they masked up long ago or they’re not going to mask up. Nobody’s masking up in January 2021 because President Biden requested.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yitzgar on January 24, 2021, 02:39:04 PM
People should mask up yet we cannot change the trajectory of the pandemic because they won't listen. That's not only possible but pretty much what's been happening for the last year.
Right, so what's the point of new mandates which aren't being enforced?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 24, 2021, 02:44:05 PM
Right, so what's the point of new mandates which aren't being enforced?
I would imagine they can be enforced to some extent, and hopefully it will push GOP & other leaders to stop turning masks and covid into the stupidest culture war. Otherwise you are right and the only point they serve is satisfying the electorate.

Earlier on Texas had some of the strictest quarantines in the country
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on January 24, 2021, 03:10:45 PM
I would imagine they can be enforced to some extent, and hopefully it will push GOP & other leaders to stop turning masks and covid into the stupidest culture war. Otherwise you are right and the only point they serve is satisfying the electorate.

Earlier on Texas had some of the strictest quarantines in the country
GOP? you gotta be kidding me.  Last I checked the day after Biden took office Cuomo announced we need to ease restrictions.   Politics is played on both sides.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 24, 2021, 03:13:32 PM
GOP? you gotta be kidding me.  Last I checked the day after Biden took office Cuomo announced we need to ease restrictions.   Politics is played on both sides.
I was talking about masks. You just changed the conversation to suit your agenda.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on January 24, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
I was talking about masks. You just changed the conversation to suit your agenda.
and quote "and covid"

go back and read your post
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: skyguy918 on January 24, 2021, 03:35:47 PM
‘Nothing We Can Do To Change Trajectory Of Pandemic’ - Joe Biden


Same person that complained that Trump did nothing.

Typical lying politician. Lies and paints Trump bad just to get the position of president
There's plenty to say on this topic without intentionally chopping up a quote to make it sound worse. The full quote is:

"There’s nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months."
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on January 24, 2021, 04:44:15 PM
(https://www.cookingpanda.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/https__66.media_.tumblr.com_78082660d01c4b106dbcb84d6723731a_tumblr_n9l6m6Jt9i1ruw1vso1_500.gif)
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 24, 2021, 04:46:45 PM
and quote "and covid"

go back and read your post
I meant culture war in the sense that we shouldn't even attempt measures with little cost like masks, but you're right. I agree Coumo's comment was indeed very partisan and inappropriate.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 27, 2021, 04:23:04 PM
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: AsherO on January 27, 2021, 04:28:19 PM

Didn’t Operation Warp Speed under Trump order 660m doses?

What’s the analysis of invoking DPA on vaccine supply? What difference will it make?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on February 01, 2021, 06:52:52 PM
I think this picture will become Exhibit A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, etc. on the great power of unity of President Biden. He saw a great opportunity to "live up to his name" as being a great unifier, despite ramming through some 30 odd unilateral executive orders in his first week. So when 10 Republican senators voice opposition, let's invite them and sit down together. I would be shocked if any meaningful input from them will end up in his final bill (if he doesn't need their votes for it).

So if you keep seeing this picture come up as an exhibit of unity, remember you heard it here first.


(https://i.postimg.cc/j2F9yk2L/00d0764f-40b3-4ff8-9b15-5925f10dab33.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 01, 2021, 06:55:47 PM
Biden will probably package in some special interests from these senators to get their votes and call it bipartisan
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on February 01, 2021, 06:58:24 PM
Biden will probably package in some special interests from these senators to get their votes and call it bipartisan
Possibly. Though I think the most blatant factor here is the total amount spent. If it remains at or near $1.9 trillion, these senators presumably will not put their names on it. And if it gets much lower, Biden probably won't sign it. That's my thoughts.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: AsherO on February 01, 2021, 08:45:11 PM
I think this picture will become Exhibit A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, etc. on the great power of unity of President Biden. He saw a great opportunity to "live up to his name" as being a great unifier, despite ramming through some 30 odd unilateral executive orders in his first week. So when 10 Republican senators voice opposition, let's invite them and sit down together. I would be shocked if any meaningful input from them will end up in his final bill (if he doesn't need their votes for it).

So if you keep seeing this picture come up as an exhibit of unity, remember you heard it here first.


(https://i.postimg.cc/j2F9yk2L/00d0764f-40b3-4ff8-9b15-5925f10dab33.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Possibly. Though I think the most blatant factor here is the total amount spent. If it remains at or near $1.9 trillion, these senators presumably will not put their names on it. And if it gets much lower, Biden probably won't sign it. That's my thoughts.

It’s just posturing, so he can point to this and say he tried to work with the ads but they didn’t play ball. But President Biden was, is, and remains The Great Unifier!
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: SSLPhD on February 10, 2021, 08:05:17 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/south-dakota-gop-introduces-legislation-that-would-allow-state-to-nullify-biden-executive-orders/ar-BB1dvfNH?ocid=msedgdhp&fbclid=IwAR3s2pzUSnv_vcRwYrST6QqCr1CuPiMpaq9uEqLNczgn2J9l2f3OdCvMGj8
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on March 16, 2021, 09:43:17 AM
it's amazing how Biden is getting away with the mexico border fiasco. Record number of children stuck over there, yet when it was Trump it was fully his fault and one of the worst things he did was lock children in cages.  #doublestandard #fakenews
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 16, 2021, 05:14:19 PM
it's amazing how Biden is getting away with the mexico border fiasco. Record number of children stuck over there, yet when it was Trump it was fully his fault and one of the worst things he did was lock children in cages.  #doublestandard #fakenews

Trump's administration separated kids from their families. The kids in cages now came unaccompanied without their parents. Small difference
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on March 16, 2021, 05:23:44 PM
Trump's administration separated kids from their families. The kids in cages now came unaccompanied without their parents. Small difference
Wait, these are all runaways?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 16, 2021, 05:30:59 PM
Wait, these are all runaways?
I don't know what you mean by 'runaway' but the kids are crossing the border unaccompanied. The parents are well aware the government will treat unaccompanied kids better. What should the government do?

They are working on improving the conditions and it looks like they aren't doing a good enough job, but it's a far cry for deliberately separating families where in many cases the parents can't even be found.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on March 17, 2021, 01:13:39 AM
What should the government do?

Encourage families to stay together in Mexico while they apply for asylum, instead of incentivising family separation.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yesitsme on March 17, 2021, 01:22:30 AM
I don't know what you mean by 'runaway' but the kids are crossing the border unaccompanied. The parents are well aware the government will treat unaccompanied kids better. What should the government do?

They are working on improving the conditions and it looks like they aren't doing a good enough job, but it's a far cry for deliberately separating families where in many cases the parents can't even be found.
parents?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 17, 2021, 04:25:38 AM
Encourage families to stay together in Mexico while they apply for asylum, instead of incentivising family separation.
Encourage how?

parents?
What?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on March 17, 2021, 01:07:20 PM
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 17, 2021, 01:40:14 PM
I think the microphones aren't in the original video and this tweet doctored them in.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on March 17, 2021, 02:53:39 PM
I think the microphones aren't in the original video and this tweet doctored them in.
There are much better reasons why the premise is ridiculous, but anyhow

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/biden-does-not-plan-to-travel-to-border-amid-migrant-surge/2021/03/16/d991feff-9f5b-4644-98c9-5fc3588a3c18_video.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/biden-does-not-plan-to-travel-to-border-amid-migrant-surge/2021/03/16/d991feff-9f5b-4644-98c9-5fc3588a3c18_video.html)

And Bloomberg's

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Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: skyguy918 on March 17, 2021, 04:33:02 PM
What is the premise here? That there are multiple videos and pictures of this from multiple angles, and all the different media outlets photoshopped their videos/photos independently?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on March 17, 2021, 04:34:18 PM
What is the premise here? That there are multiple videos and pictures of this from multiple angles, and all the different media outlets photoshopped their videos/photos independently?
Yeah some ridiculous conspiracy theory like that.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: S209 on March 20, 2021, 11:51:46 PM
The unbiased MSM coverage of Biden tripping 3 times on a flight of stairs vs. last year’s coverage of Trump stumbling on a ramp is illuminating.

Inside Edition (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQgv1ChNblk) cited other historic examples of people falling down stairs, complete with a stuntman to explain how it could have occurred and why it’s normal. When Trump stumbled, their most likely explanation was an aneurysm.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yesitsme on March 20, 2021, 11:57:04 PM


if that's the case cant they come up with some better staircase?


aneurysm is not fun
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Ver hut gazugt on March 21, 2021, 12:09:46 AM
Encourage how?
What?

He can reestablish  the border agreement with Mexico on the other South American countries. 
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on March 21, 2021, 12:46:29 AM
The unbiased MSM coverage of Biden tripping 3 times on a flight of stairs vs. last year’s coverage of Trump stumbling on a ramp is illuminating.

Inside Edition (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQgv1ChNblk) cited other historic examples of people falling down stairs, complete with a stuntman to explain how it could have occurred and why it’s normal. When Trump stumbled, their most likely explanation was an aneurysm.
When I first saw the chairlift meme, I thought that if this would’ve happened to Trump, Jim Acosta would’ve asked in all seriousness, if the White House is planning to install a chairlift, and everyone would think it’s a legitimate question.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yitzgar on March 21, 2021, 01:08:12 AM


When I first saw the chairlift meme, I thought that if this would’ve happened to Trump, Jim Acosta would’ve asked in all seriousness, if the White House is planning to install a chairlift, and everyone would act as though it’s a legitimate question.
FTFY
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yesitsme on March 21, 2021, 03:03:10 AM
what's the protocol? how come no one ran to help him out? if that was your father you'd let him fall like that?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 21, 2021, 08:22:00 PM
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 26, 2021, 01:31:37 AM

Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on March 26, 2021, 02:10:34 AM

A guy who is all there mentally doesn't need a picture book to know who to call on at a press conference with 25 reporters present...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/photos-biden-cheat-sheets-first-formal-press-conference
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yesitsme on March 26, 2021, 02:17:44 AM
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on March 26, 2021, 02:23:29 AM

Itche Kadoozi - "Do you exaggerate numbers to be funny, or do you just not understand how numbers work?"

Jono - "I think the first thing you said is kind of a way for me to cover up for the second thing you said."
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 26, 2021, 02:23:54 AM

A guy who is all there mentally doesn't need a picture book to know who to call on at a press conference with 25 reporters present...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/photos-biden-cheat-sheets-first-formal-press-conference
Lol thought you were smarter than falling for the Fox senile fiction. Trump could’ve used help remembering reporters names:

Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 26, 2021, 11:11:42 AM
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on March 26, 2021, 12:27:15 PM

This stuff is gaslighting to the extreme... Which politician (especially at that level) uses a picture book with instructions on who to call on and in which order?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 10:18:39 AM
Wait, these are all runaways?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: grodnoking on April 01, 2021, 10:41:01 AM
Trump's administration separated kids from their families. The kids in cages now came unaccompanied without their parents. Small difference
It's the same type of people coming over for the same reasons. It's just how the media spins it. Before they were gruesomely ripped from their parents hands, now they are "unaccompanied".
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 10:43:53 AM
It's the same type of people coming over for the same reasons. It's just how the media spins it. Before they were gruesomely ripped from their parents hands, now they are "unaccompanied".
Nope, you're the one trying to obfuscate reality with a poor spin. Trump's admin did separate kids from their families, and kids are coming unaccompanied under Biden.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: grodnoking on April 01, 2021, 10:55:14 AM
Nope, you're the one trying to obfuscate reality with a poor spin. Trump's admin did separate kids from their families, and kids are coming unaccompanied under Biden.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy
So the majority of the kids before came over with their parents and got separated and put in cages (and the pictures of them got sent all over (remember, every single one of those were separated forcefully)), but now there are thousands coming over all by themselves and being "safely housed in facilities", but they are overwhelmed with the sheer numbers now. And how can you even dare to take pictures now?! You're breaching their privacy!!!
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 10:59:35 AM
So the majority of the kids before came over with their parents and got separated and put in cages (and the pictures of them got sent all over (remember, every single one of those were separated forcefully)), but now there are thousands coming over all by themselves and being "safely housed in facilities", but they are overwhelmed with the sheer numbers now. And how can you even dare to take pictures now?! You're breaching their privacy!!!
Who said that?

Nobody claimed the media was fair. But there is a very big difference between separating kids that Trump did and providing inadequate conditions for unaccompanied kids for lack of better options, no matter how much you'll try to pretend they're both the same.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on April 01, 2021, 11:18:20 AM
Who said that?

Nobody claimed the media was fair. But there is a very big difference between separating kids that Trump did and providing inadequate conditions for unaccompanied kids for lack of better options, no matter how much you'll try to pretend they're both the same.
The border hasn't been this bad ever and Biden is doing ziltch. And it's the same scenarios, kids alone at border. Some came themselves and sometimes with parents. And the same people that were going on and on how a bad person Trump is because of this, are now totally ignoring the situation.   It's a crooked media that only shares anything that pushes their agenda. Quite sickening if you ask me
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 11:24:51 AM
The border hasn't been this bad ever
That's a fiction, it was worse by every known metric in 2019. You only think it's worse now because Fox and other Right wing hacks only started caring now, until now they were advocating ruthless treatment of all immigrants. AOC and the far left were more consistent and have been calling Biden out on it (but again the Right wing hacks aren't telling you that, so you wouldn't know)



And it's the same scenarios, kids alone at border. Some came themselves and sometimes with parents.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yossisch1 on April 01, 2021, 02:06:02 PM
So the majority of the kids before came over with their parents and got separated and put in cages (and the pictures of them got sent all over (remember, every single one of those were separated forcefully)), but now there are thousands coming over all by themselves and being "safely housed in facilities", but they are overwhelmed with the sheer numbers now. And how can you even dare to take pictures now?! You're breaching their privacy!!!

The separation of kids was not a Trump policy it was due to a court ruling that did not allow kids to be arrested only the parents.  I believe this policy existed under Obama as well but the media did not talk about it
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 02:10:23 PM
The separation of kids was not a Trump policy it was due to a court ruling that did not allow kids to be arrested only the parents.  I believe this policy existed under Obama as well but the media did not talk about it
Pure fiction. Under Obama, parents and kids were jailed together for 21 days and then released together. Trump’s administration is the one that separated the kids and jailed them separately then lost track of the parents so couldn’t release them.

Get your facts straight
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: SwellCindy on April 01, 2021, 04:06:22 PM
It's the same type of people coming over for the same reasons. It's just how the media spins it. Before they were gruesomely ripped from their parents hands, now they are "unaccompanied".

How dare you??

Don't you know @PlatinumGuy is always right, no matter what? After all, whatever he spouts from Twitter, Politico, The Hill, etc. are FACT while whatever the rest of us read or believe is nonsense. Democrat to the core - spin whatever it is to your narrative, plow down everything else in your path. Typical left, using all their energy to further their agenda; the right isn't interested in taking it to the ends of the earth (yup, works against them) to prove the fallacies of the democrats. Perhaps that's why the left resonates with the younger generation - brainwash loud and long enough til you believe whatever you're told.

Yawn.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 01, 2021, 05:07:55 PM
How dare you??

Don't you know @PlatinumGuy is always right, no matter what? After all, whatever he spouts from Twitter, Politico, The Hill, etc. are FACT while whatever the rest of us read or believe is nonsense. Democrat to the core - spin whatever it is to your narrative, plow down everything else in your path. Typical left, using all their energy to further their agenda; the right isn't interested in taking it to the ends of the earth (yup, works against them) to prove the fallacies of the democrats. Perhaps that's why the left resonates with the younger generation - brainwash loud and long enough til you believe whatever you're told.

Yawn.
Well, it’s certainly obvious who is not even attempting to understand or comment on the actual topic being discussed. Ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: aygart on April 01, 2021, 05:26:14 PM
#incentivization
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on April 01, 2021, 10:27:43 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/W34HgsVR/Whats-App-Image-2021-04-01-at-11-56-41-AM.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hJHsqWhM)
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 02, 2021, 03:24:41 AM
#incentivization
What would you do with the toddlers if it was up to you?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yesitsme on April 02, 2021, 08:36:51 AM
What would you do with the toddlers if it was up to you?
They wouldn't come in
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 02, 2021, 08:40:26 AM
They wouldn't come in
That doesn’t answer the question, but how would you have stopped them from coming in?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yesitsme on April 02, 2021, 08:42:26 AM
That doesn’t answer the question, but how would you have stopped them from coming in?
I can hook you up with the former president he did a great job, if they would continue in that direction it would stop at some point
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 02, 2021, 08:44:54 AM
I can hook you up with the former president he did a great job, if they would continue in that direction it would stop at some point
Can you provide any metric you used to make that claim or is it solely based on him conning you to believe that?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: yesitsme on April 02, 2021, 08:56:42 AM
Can you provide any metric you used to make that claim or is it solely based on him conning you to believe that?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 02, 2021, 09:04:35 AM
Are you literally citing Ted Cruz to establish a factual question of how many immigrants entered the country? Do you really believe everything they tell you?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ex6DKu1U8AATtOP?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on April 02, 2021, 11:47:16 AM
It was worse by every known metric in 2019.

Fact check: False (or is it 4 pinocchios?)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/march-border-crossings/2021/04/02/150ee61c-93b3-11eb-9af7-fd0822ae4398_story.html
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: drosenberg88429 on April 02, 2021, 02:44:24 PM
There's a backlog and aggravated economic distress due to covid which also must be taken into account. Countries were closed in 2020, and emigration was not possible. Much as they'd like to believe otherwise, not everything that happens in the world is due to the administration. Correlation does not always equal causation. There are outside factors at play too, besides for which president happens to be in office.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on April 02, 2021, 03:04:16 PM
There's a backlog and aggravated economic distress due to covid which also must be taken into account. Countries were closed in 2020, and emigration was not possible. Much as they'd like to believe otherwise, not everything that happens in the world is due to the administration. Correlation does not always equal causation. There are outside factors at play too, besides for which president happens to be in office.

Sure there are other factors, but to suggest that Biden's rhetoric and policies have not made things worse (or that it isn't worse like some have tried to claim) is just wrong.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 04, 2021, 08:21:48 AM
Fact check: False (or is it 4 pinocchios?)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/march-border-crossings/2021/04/02/150ee61c-93b3-11eb-9af7-fd0822ae4398_story.html
Actually, when I posted that on April 1, it was correct. The article was published on April 2 and exposed for the first time that March 2021, using certain metrics, was indeed worse than the Trump years (but still not as bad as Bush senior), but thank you for opening my eyes to that.

Of course, they are cherry picked metrics. If you only count each migrant once and not separately for each attempted entry, the CBP estimates it would remove 30-40% of apprehensions, and 2019 would still be worse. The relevant metric is how many illegals are entering the US, and those were still higher in April 2019 than March 2021. The only difference is that in 2021 they were quickly expelled using Covid pretext (Title 42), so they just came back to the border and were caught again making apprehensions go up despite less people crossing the border than under Trump in 2019.

In short, less people are crossing the border more times. We care about the amount of illegal people in the country, not how many times they cross the border. Of course, the entire immigration debate is a giant political spin war since even illegal immigrants are quite good for America, but the metrics still have to make some sense...

S to suggest that Biden's policies have not made things worse is just wrong.
Which Biden border policy made things 'worse'?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 05, 2021, 05:12:56 PM
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 05, 2021, 05:22:33 PM

#Unity
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on April 08, 2021, 02:46:06 PM
where is all the anger from both sides of the aisle regarding all of Bidens Executive orders. how are we allowing this? he is literraly becoming a ruler of the US.

gun control is a right we have. how can an executive order just put rules on it?
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 08, 2021, 04:46:04 PM
where is all the anger from both sides of the aisle regarding all of Bidens Executive orders. how are we allowing this? he is literraly becoming a ruler of the US.

gun control is a right we have. how can an executive order just put rules on it?
Who has time to worry about gun rights? We are busy kvetching about Dr Seuss
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Mordyk on April 08, 2021, 05:09:06 PM
Who has time to worry about gun rights? We are busy kvetching about Dr Seuss
somehow by Trump they had time to worry about what temperature he likes his steak... >:(
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: JlmBoi on April 08, 2021, 05:12:56 PM
somehow by Trump they had time to worry about what temperature he likes his steak... >:(
Honestly in that case that is the bigger atrocity.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on April 25, 2021, 01:07:53 AM
Joe Biden deserves major kudos for finally doing what no US president before him has done, in calling the Armenian Genocide what it was. Good for him!
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: EliJelly on April 25, 2021, 03:08:42 AM
Joe Biden deserves major kudos for finally doing what no US president before him has done, in calling the Armenian Genocide what it was. Good for him!
And for calling Putin what he is :P
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 25, 2021, 05:27:52 AM
Joe Biden deserves major kudos for finally doing what no US president before him has done, in calling the Armenian Genocide what it was. Good for him!
As well as removing them from the F35 program permanently after Trump suspended them in 2019. Erdogan did the lowest possible response of summoning the American ambassador, not even recalling his ambassador or canceling his June meeting with Biden.

Turkey is one of the most belligerent countries in the world and it has to stop.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: CountValentine on April 25, 2021, 07:59:00 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-at-100-days-bidens-approval-remains-strong-can-the-honeymoon-last/ar-BB1g1XMz
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: SwellCindy on April 25, 2021, 01:49:51 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-at-100-days-bidens-approval-remains-strong-can-the-honeymoon-last/ar-BB1g1XMz

Intentionally swaying the poll.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pew-research-poll-that-found-biden-approval-rating-of-59-over-sampled-democrats-by-31
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: gozalim on April 25, 2021, 06:49:33 PM
Turkey is one of the most belligerent countries in the world and it has to stop.
probably the biggest factor in this announcement.
US been resisting it for decades while Turkey was an ally (and an ally to an ally) in a hostile region.
they can't be surprised
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: CountValentine on April 25, 2021, 09:22:25 PM
Intentionally swaying the poll.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/pew-research-poll-that-found-biden-approval-rating-of-59-over-sampled-democrats-by-31
Even the FOX poll shows him at 54%. You have to figure they are swaying the poll also. So he is probably at 60-62%?  :)
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on April 28, 2021, 07:31:24 PM
I'm really starting to think that Joe Biden wears a mask when he takes a shower
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: TimT on April 28, 2021, 10:10:12 PM
Great headline on DR- “BIDEN HOOD” :D
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: zh cohen on April 28, 2021, 10:15:09 PM
Great headline on DR- “BIDEN HOOD” :D

Took me a minute to figure out what site you were referring to. I didn't know anyone goes there anymore.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: TimT on April 28, 2021, 10:16:44 PM
Took me a minute to figure out what site you were referring to. I didn't know anyone goes there anymore.
He lost a few since the change but he’s still pretty popular.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 29, 2021, 06:07:03 AM
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: stooges44 on April 29, 2021, 03:19:45 PM


When only his supporters watch....


CONTRAST: 11.6 million people watched President Biden's speech last night. President Trump's lowest-rated viewership in his four SOTU addresses was 37.2 million.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: Jellybelly on April 29, 2021, 03:42:33 PM
We already moved on from last night.
Now we’re gonna hear about Joe giving DR Jill a dandelion 🙄
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: CountValentine on April 29, 2021, 03:47:43 PM
We already moved on from last night.
Now we’re gonna hear about Joe giving DR Jill a dandelion 🙄
So instead of racism and lies we now have dandelions. Not a bad improvement. 
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: CountValentine on April 29, 2021, 03:49:22 PM
That is a grand slam with two out in the bottom of the 9th.
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: TimT on April 29, 2021, 04:07:37 PM
When only his supporters watch....
About 14% of his voters. Lol
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 01, 2021, 06:42:16 PM
When only his supporters watch....


CONTRAST: 11.6 million people watched President Biden's speech last night. President Trump's lowest-rated viewership in his four SOTU addresses was 37.2 million.
Try 27 million

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/business/media/biden-speech-ratings.html
Title: Re: President Biden
Post by: YitzyS on May 01, 2021, 10:09:23 PM
Try 27 million

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/business/media/biden-speech-ratings.html
Sales of Tylenol PM and other sleep aids plummeted during the speech, as consumers realized that a simple DVR of it may by their ticket to restful sleep from now on.