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Title: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on February 08, 2021, 03:28:28 PM
Anybody with information on the new chassidish yishuv in Casa Grande AZ? How many people moved there already, what do they envision for the future? 
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: lcm on February 09, 2021, 12:57:43 AM
Anybody with information on the new chassidish yishuv in Casa Grande AZ? How many people moved there already, what do they envision for the future?
Lol, there is literally a chabad shliach about to move out there
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: KSMH on February 09, 2021, 01:39:11 AM
Lol, there is literally a chabad shliach about to move out there
I heard its due to chasidim moving there.
They feel the heat.

Not verified.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: lcm on February 09, 2021, 01:44:04 AM
I heard its due to chasidim moving there.
They feel the heat.

Not verified.
?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 09, 2021, 02:01:16 AM
I still can抰 figure out if this is real or not
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Yehuda57 on February 09, 2021, 07:30:41 AM
Anybody with information on Casa Grande AZ?

They feel the heat.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Essen est zich on February 09, 2021, 09:04:10 AM
Lol, there is literally a chabad shliach about to move out there
Please give tezedaka https://donate.chabadcasagrande.org/
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: maylei on February 09, 2021, 09:04:25 AM
This is real and from my understanding there isn抰 a minyan of families there yet I was there 3 weeks ago a chasidish family from Williamsburg moved there and is opening up a fully kosher grocery and from what they were telling me they are planning on having more chasidim move in to the community. But they want the grocery to be able to help Jews in Phoenix on a weekly basis with delivering food. But I don抰 think anything has really been fully established or started.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: TimT on February 09, 2021, 09:13:10 AM
I still can抰 figure out if this is real or not
https://ahblicklive.com/post.php?u_id=fZRMPJDXjDmhGbhj61B
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on February 09, 2021, 09:52:54 AM
This is real and from my understanding there isn抰 a minyan of families there yet I was there 3 weeks ago a chasidish family from Williamsburg moved there and is opening up a fully kosher grocery and from what they were telling me they are planning on having more chasidim move in to the community. But they want the grocery to be able to help Jews in Phoenix on a weekly basis with delivering food. But I don抰 think anything has really been fully established or started.

If they抮e the first ones there and they抮e planning on serving Phoenix wouldn抰 it make sense to open in (or at least closer to) Pheonix?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Yehuda57 on February 09, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
Anybody with information on the new chassidish yishuv in Casa Grande AZ? How many people moved there already, what do they envision for the future? 

Apparently, this is the same as the Tampa yishuv, just with bigger houses
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on February 09, 2021, 12:07:36 PM
Apparently, this is the same as the Tampa yishuv, just with bigger houses

Casa Grande is where the Tamper Rebbe goes to datche...
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on February 09, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Apparently, this is the same as the Tampa yishuv, just with bigger houses
*excels in Spanish puns too*
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: lcm on February 09, 2021, 08:58:12 PM
If they抮e the first ones there and they抮e planning on serving Phoenix wouldn抰 it make sense to open in (or at least closer to) Pheonix?
They want people to move out there, not just stay in phoenix
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: lcm on February 09, 2021, 08:59:13 PM
Anybody with information on the new chassidish yishuv in Casa Grande AZ? How many people moved there already, what do they envision for the future?
There are already 6 families there, another 4 moving in before pesach.
Already have a mikva, shul, kosher grocery.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on February 09, 2021, 11:11:03 PM
They want people to move out there, not just stay in phoenix

Obviously. Is someone (the developers?) subsidizing the grocery until there's enough of a market? Hard to believe six families and a few delivery orders to Phoenix will keep them going.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 09, 2021, 11:23:57 PM
https://ahblicklive.com/post.php?u_id=fZRMPJDXjDmhGbhj61B
So just 6 families live there so far, and yet according to above link they just opened their second  :o beis medrash. That's too funny!!
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on February 09, 2021, 11:39:35 PM
So just 6 families live there so far, and yet according to above link they just opened their second  :o beis medrash. That's too funny!!
Of the first necessities in a frum town is a shul you won't step foot in :)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Yehuda57 on February 09, 2021, 11:49:38 PM
Of the first necessities in a frum town is a shul you won't step foot in :)

But didn't someone say there's already a Chabad House in the works?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on February 09, 2021, 11:50:34 PM
But didn't someone say there's already a Chabad House in the works?
Too little too late
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 10, 2021, 12:09:56 AM
Sounds like a cool place to visit
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on February 10, 2021, 12:23:47 AM
But didn't someone say there's already a Chabad House in the works?

The Chabad House is the neutral ground, the only place where people from both shuls mingle together.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 10, 2021, 12:32:02 AM
The Chabad House is the neutral ground, the only place where people from both shuls mingle together.
'No Mans Land'
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on February 10, 2021, 09:12:40 AM
'No Mans Land'

More like "everybody is welcome, regardless of affiliation (or lack thereof)"
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: lcm on February 11, 2021, 07:34:22 PM
 they are working very nicely with chabad
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: ari3 on February 13, 2021, 09:16:53 PM
https://ahblicklive.com/post.php?u_id=fZRMPJDXjDmhGbhj61B
there seem to be a lot more than 6 families worth in that picture
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: shabbosabba on February 13, 2021, 10:45:04 PM
Anyone know how far casa grande is from the Scottsdale and Phoenix Jewish communities?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on February 13, 2021, 10:52:29 PM
Anyone know how far casa grande is from the Scottsdale and Phoenix Jewish communities?
Lies between Phoenix and Tucson. About one hour drive to each.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: KSMH on February 14, 2021, 01:42:11 AM
there seem to be a lot more than 6 families worth in that picture

I actually know someone living there, forgot all details but they have a minyan living there (so he said).
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: yesitsme on February 22, 2021, 12:52:23 AM
is there a thread about those that moved to Centerville, Indiana?
I hear that 10 people (AV) already moved there
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on February 22, 2021, 12:53:03 AM
is there a thread about those that moved to Centerville, Indiana?
I hear that 10 people (AV) already moved there
AV & ACC :)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: UKinNYS on March 19, 2021, 03:34:54 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/prv2tHTz/Ewovg08-W8-AAtljt-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: yesitsme on March 19, 2021, 03:57:26 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/prv2tHTz/Ewovg08-W8-AAtljt-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

No
שמוציגע מיירען???
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on March 19, 2021, 03:59:43 PM
No
שמוציגע מיירען???
Grows in your backyard no need to mud wrap it
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: justaregularguy on March 22, 2021, 11:52:41 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/prv2tHTz/Ewovg08-W8-AAtljt-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
honestly I don speak yiddish so it might be a regular phrase- but I think it抯 hilarious that it says they have leibidig fish! 🎶
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: ah giten on March 22, 2021, 11:54:15 PM
honestly I don speak yiddish so it might be a regular phrase- but I think it抯 hilarious that it says they have leibidig fish! 🎶
Nope, it's a normal expression. A chumra some have, to make sure the fish are kosher l'pesach.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: justaregularguy on March 22, 2021, 11:55:52 PM
Nope, it's a normal expression. A chumra some have, to make sure the fish are kosher l'pesach.
so it literally means live fish ? As in when zaidy was young live fish?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: ah giten on March 22, 2021, 11:56:59 PM
so it literally means live fish ? As in when zaidy was young live fish?
Yep. The reason some eat Carp fish, because it can live longer without water.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: justaregularguy on March 23, 2021, 12:00:34 AM
Yep. The reason some eat Carp fish, because it can live longer without water.
wow. I am so sheltered. Thanks for enlightening :)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: yesitsme on March 23, 2021, 12:01:52 AM
Some places used to preserve fish in chometz, there were no freezers back then, so when it came peach time some said no fish others said live fish and others said no chometz
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on March 23, 2021, 12:05:11 AM
wow. I am so sheltered. Thanks for enlightening :)
Wow. Take your kids for a walk in BP or Williamsburg these days. They'll see large containers with huge almost dying carp gasping their last breaths outside every fish store.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: ah giten on March 23, 2021, 12:12:02 AM
Or just turn on "when zaidy was young" and explain that some still do the same.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on March 23, 2021, 12:14:06 AM
Or just turn on "when zaidy was young" and explain that some still do the same.
No longer keeping it in the bathtub these days
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Lurker on March 23, 2021, 12:28:08 AM
No longer keeping it in the bathtub these days

I was about to ask...
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: justaregularguy on March 23, 2021, 05:23:58 PM
Wow. Take your kids for a walk in BP or Williamsburg these days. They'll see large containers with huge almost dying carp gasping their last breaths outside every fish store.
really!? oh my gosh i really have no idea.
first time i went to bp for sukkos blew me away! im like 40 min from there even , not far!
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: EliJelly on March 23, 2021, 07:38:24 PM
really!? oh my gosh i really have no idea.
first time i went to bp for sukkos blew me away! im like 40 min from there even , not far!
Erev sukkos. 13th Ave or Lee ave.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Jellybelly on March 23, 2021, 07:41:40 PM
No longer keeping it in the bathtub these days
That抯 only Wednesday nights
🙄
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: UKinNYS on March 30, 2021, 06:31:40 PM
interesting coverage in AMI (also tampa
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Something Fishy on April 05, 2021, 08:48:37 PM
interesting coverage in AMI (also tampa

Anyone have a PDF?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: UKinNYS on April 14, 2021, 03:11:07 PM
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Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: UKinNYS on April 16, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
Check out this thread
http://www.ivelt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=43097&start=675
seem legit happening..
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Something Fishy on April 21, 2021, 09:14:00 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/2yDrLDbp/Whats-App-Image-2021-04-21-at-4-42-25-AM.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cgXVPPBT)

+10000000

I've been saying this for years.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2021, 09:47:34 AM
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+10000000

I've been saying this for years.


The sprit of the message is true, but the analogy makes no sense, neither the ship of the past, nor the 搒hip of the present.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Something Fishy on April 21, 2021, 09:58:15 AM
The sprit of the message is true, but the analogy makes no sense, neither the ship of the past, nor the 搒hip of the present.

The point is that Chassidim are stuck in the same five communities we've been in since the war, because ships happen to have arrived in NYC. If only they would have arrived somewhere pleasant instead...

It's time to move past the stuck mentality and choose to create communities in places we would actually enjoy living in.

That's one of the big questions I have about the Tampa plan - with the entirety of the United States open to you, why choose a place that has unpleasant weather and is just so... boring? (And yes, I know that AZ is a lot hotter. But that's been discussed to death - 110 in AZ is a lot more pleasant than 90 in FL.)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: whacked1 on April 21, 2021, 11:34:26 AM
The point is that Chassidim are stuck in the same five communities we've been in since the war, because ships happen to have arrived in NYC. If only they would have arrived somewhere pleasant instead...


They landed in NYC because that's where there was opportunity to make money . If they would've gone someplace else, 1) they probably would've had a better quality of life 2) a lot of future generations would have been forced to get jobs and not just suck off the grandfather's labor  ;)
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Lurker on April 21, 2021, 12:01:49 PM
That's one of the big questions I have about the Tampa plan - with the entirety of the United States open to you, why choose a place that has unpleasant weather and is just so... boring? (And yes, I know that AZ is a lot hotter. But that's been discussed to death - 110 in AZ is a lot more pleasant than 90 in FL.)

In your opinion, which are the top 5 places in the US where you'd choose to start new communities?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: avromie7 on April 21, 2021, 12:07:36 PM
The point is that Chassidim are stuck in the same five communities we've been in since the war, because ships happen to have arrived in NYC. If only they would have arrived somewhere pleasant instead...

It's time to move past the stuck mentality and choose to create communities in places we would actually enjoy living in.

That's one of the big questions I have about the Tampa plan - with the entirety of the United States open to you, why choose a place that has unpleasant weather and is just so... boring? (And yes, I know that AZ is a lot hotter. But that's been discussed to death - 110 in AZ is a lot more pleasant than 90 in FL.)
The Tampa people were looking for 2 things, a development ready to take over in a red state. Those were the most important criteria, everything else is secondary.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Yehuda57 on April 21, 2021, 12:10:44 PM
I would think vouchers would be the #1 consideration
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Lurker on April 21, 2021, 12:19:50 PM
There are a number of factors to consider:
- Education (vouchers)
- Affordable housing
- Food (access to existing supply lines)
- Government, both local and state
- Ease of access to NY and other Jewish hubs (direct/affordable flights)
- Climate
- Room for growth
- Job/business opportunities
- Local culture

I don't think it's particularly easy to find too many places which check all of the boxes.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: TimT on April 21, 2021, 12:25:20 PM
If only they would have arrived somewhere pleasant instead..
If millions would抳e arrived on ships anywhere pleasant I doubt it would still be very pleasant.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2021, 12:35:02 PM
The point is that Chassidim are stuck in the same five communities we've been in since the war, because ships happen to have arrived in NYC. If only they would have arrived somewhere pleasant instead...

It's time to move past the stuck mentality and choose to create communities in places we would actually enjoy living in.

That's one of the big questions I have about the Tampa plan - with the entirety of the United States open to you, why choose a place that has unpleasant weather and is just so... boring? (And yes, I know that AZ is a lot hotter. But that's been discussed to death - 110 in AZ is a lot more pleasant than 90 in FL.)

I understood the point, my point was that was no Ellis Island after WWII and Arizona is landlocked.

In any case in 1950s we needed power in numbers to create infrastructure and support eachother, it抯 a different world today and we don抰 need that to the same extent. We also have the luxury of finding/creating job opportunities anywhere. Your average Jewish immigrant to NYC in 1945-1955 didn抰 arrive with that mindset.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2021, 12:40:28 PM
The point is that Chassidim are stuck in the same five communities we've been in since the war, because ships happen to have arrived in NYC. If only they would have arrived somewhere pleasant instead...

It's time to move past the stuck mentality and choose to create communities in places we would actually enjoy living in.

That's one of the big questions I have about the Tampa plan - with the entirety of the United States open to you, why choose a place that has unpleasant weather and is just so... boring? (And yes, I know that AZ is a lot hotter. But that's been discussed to death - 110 in AZ is a lot more pleasant than 90 in FL.)
In your opinion, which are the top 5 places in the US where you'd choose to start new communities?
LYR
KEF
PSY
LIH
FAI
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2021, 12:46:45 PM
LYR
KEF
PSY
LIH
FAI

:D :D :D

Casa Grande and 揟ampe have infinitely greater chances of success than some of those
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: avromie7 on April 21, 2021, 01:56:00 PM
LYR
KEF
PSY
LIH
FAI
Only one of those is in the US.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2021, 02:02:11 PM
Only one of those is in the US.
-1
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2021, 02:18:02 PM
Only one of those is in the US.

Two, but neither are in the "lower 48". I think LIH is the only one Dan mentioned previously on DDF in this context. LIH is also the only one with weather tolerable to most DDFers, though I'm with Dan on that one.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: sillypainter on April 21, 2021, 02:20:48 PM
Not everyone works in the blogging business. JOBS, JOBS, not available everywhere in abundance.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2021, 02:21:54 PM
Not everyone works in the blogging business. JOBS, JOBS, not available everywhere in abundance.

Depends what you do. Lots of options other than blogging that allow you to work in or around many places.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: yelped on April 21, 2021, 02:22:17 PM
LYR
KEF
PSY
LIH
FAI
What's the attractiveness of Myrtle Beach? I've never been there.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: AsherO on April 21, 2021, 02:22:56 PM
What's the attractiveness of Myrtle Beach? I've never been there.

Which one is Myrtle beach?
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: avromie7 on April 21, 2021, 02:49:18 PM
-1
Ok, but still not 5
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: yelped on April 21, 2021, 02:50:17 PM
Which one is Myrtle beach?
Nevermind. Read it as MYR.

ETA: Anyways what's with these places? Who would want to live in LYR?  ;D
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Lurker on April 21, 2021, 02:56:20 PM
ETA: Anyways what's with these places? Who would want to live in LYR?  ;D

SomethingFishy...
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: shabbosabba on April 21, 2021, 06:57:03 PM
I would think vouchers would be the #1 consideration

The vouchers in FL are pretty good. Step up gives thousands per kid.
Title: Re: New Chassidish Community Being Planned in Casa Grande Arizona
Post by: Zalc on May 05, 2021, 10:41:47 PM
We came Soooo close to all living in Argentina...