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Title: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 12:31:40 AM
bump --

OK, its been awhile since I last asked, and in that time I have amassed 1MM+ points (MR+UR+DL+AA+etc), and I now need to start planning for my honeymoon.

My options:

Bora Bora -

+'s: I have wanted to go here since I was a child. The mystique it carries is second to none.
-'s: No Hyatt property*; no award availability from PPT-BOB

* Hyatt as far as I can tell would be the best redemption for me based on the points I have.

Maldives -

+'s: Hyatt property; also said to be beautiful (though not to the level of BOB)
-'s: Distance (couple thousand miles farther than PPT)

Kauai -

+'s: Dan has been there with at least one TR; Hyatt property; closest
-'s: From what I understand, it isn't MLE or BOB

My main requirements for this trip are 1) spend as little actual $$ as possible, 2) clear water and 3) (if possible--though I reaaaaally want it) an over water villa/bungalow.

Random notes:
--I have two free nights in a Hyatt suite and a few suite upgrade certs
--I am not top-tier at any hotel, but am Hyatt Plat, SPG Gold, HHonors Gold

Based on the above info (though I am sure you guys need more info to be truly helpful, I'll start with this and answer any forthcoming questions as best I can) thoughts on where to go for my honeymoon?

Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moko on December 20, 2011, 12:39:14 AM
oish where is pritzus fighter  ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 12:43:57 AM
Forgot to add (for weather and availability considerations):

We'd like to go in either late May or late August.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: MLM on December 20, 2011, 12:58:44 AM
What about Fiji?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 01:19:51 AM
What about Fiji?

Though I guess that could be an option, but 1) Mrs. AJK has already been there, 2) its as far as MLE, and 3) there doesn't seem to be a Hyatt there.

Also, I have no idea of the awards that would be available (yet).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on December 20, 2011, 02:19:19 AM
If you can confirm Hyatt OWB in MLE with your suite nights/upgrades, I see it as a clear winner.

But that may be a big "if". Try writing a nice letter to the manager and see what happens.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on December 20, 2011, 05:32:18 AM
Sell your points and stay at another resort in the maldives.

I was here www.halaveli.com overwater villa with private infinity pool is the basic room.

I have not been to Bora bora (yet) but you cant go wrong with the maldives.

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 12:17:31 PM
If you can confirm Hyatt OWB in MLE with your suite nights/upgrades, I see it as a clear winner.

But that may be a big "if". Try writing a nice letter to the manager and see what happens.

Good idea. I wonder if anyone has secured an OWB anywhere with Hyatt using suite nights/upgrades.

Sell your points and stay at another resort in the maldives.

I was here www.halaveli.com overwater villa with private infinity pool is the basic room.

I have not been to Bora bora (yet) but you cant go wrong with the maldives.



That resort looks fantastic, but it seems the basic rooms are ~$1,000... If it comes to that, I'd consider selling my points, but I'd rather redeem.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2011, 01:01:36 PM
Good idea. I wonder if anyone has secured an OWB anywhere with Hyatt using suite nights/upgrades.
At least 1 FT'er received an OWB with a suite cert at the PH MLE.  Definitely email to confirm and if you can confirm then MLE is the obvious choice.  Otherwise MLE is the farthest and hardest to get to from the US.

I think LIH as an island has the most beauty and most to do, but it can't compare to the romantic seclusion of an OWB in BOB or MLE.  In LIH you'll also have normal cell and internet service which is either a plus or minus.  LIH has Walmart and Costco, etc, with plenty of kosher items while BOB and MLE will have none.

HH points are good for BOB, but you would have to do a cash supplement to get an OWB.  SPG has the best BOB property in the St Regis but it's super-expensive with cash or points.  Check on FT though where I recall seeing a code there for an OWB in the $600 range.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 02:07:11 PM
Thanks for a most informative post.

If I was somehow able to secure the OWB in MLE, what do people do for food there (or anywhere like MLE or BOB without a Walmart etc)?

Pack up a lot of oatmeal?

(EDIT: I am going to read (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=220.75;topicseen) this thread.)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on December 20, 2011, 02:11:22 PM
Thanks for a most informative post.

If I was somehow able to secure the OWB in MLE, what do people do for food there (or anywhere like MLE or BOB without a Walmart etc)?

Pack up a lot of oatmeal?

(EDIT: I am going to read (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=220.75;topicseen) this thread.)
u bring food with u which isnt so amazing for a honeymoon. so u kind of need to decide between romantic setting and OWB and bring all your own food. and hawaii where u can at least et some stuff. personally i would still choose owb
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2011, 02:17:05 PM
u bring food with u which isnt so amazing for a honeymoon. so u kind of need to decide between romantic setting and OWB and bring all your own food. and hawaii where u can at least et some stuff. personally i would still choose owb
In Hawaii you can order prepared kosher meals from HNL or LAX that the hotel can serve to you in any restaurant or in your room.  In Maui the Hyatt actually has a kosher menu.
Or if you're cheap like me you'll bring frozen prepared food and heat it up on a cheap burner you'll bring with you.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 02:23:03 PM
I'd likely go the "bring your own burner" route.

Anyone know if MLE customs is like/as bad as AUS customs?

The only negative experience I ever had with customs is, like an idiot apparently, when stopped in FLL en route to CUN, I packed up a whole bunch of red meat and stuck it in my suitcase only for it to be taken out and summarily put in the garbage on arrival.

We had to subsist on whatever white meat we had (cooked on a foreman) and cookies. It sucked.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 02:25:09 PM
The food issue is a rather large one.

If I cannot get an OWB in MLE, it isn't worth the trek, especially if I have to deal with the food headache.

In that case, I'd likely just hit up LIH.

Does LIH have OWB anywhere? (I'll google concurrently.)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2011, 02:26:05 PM
The food issue is a rather large one.

If I cannot get an OWB in MLE, it isn't worth the trek, especially if I have to deal with the food headache.

In that case, I'd likely just hit up LIH.

Does LIH have OWB anywhere? (I'll google concurrently.)
No OWB in HI.
Others here have been to MLE and will hopefully chime in on food.  Would be interesting to see if PH MLE would buy kosher breakfasts for diamonds :D  You might want to ask them if they have any kosher food options available.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 02:39:07 PM
No OWB in HI.
Others here have been to MLE and will hopefully chime in on food.  Would be interesting to see if PH MLE would buy kosher breakfasts for diamonds :D  You might want to ask them if they have any kosher food options available.

Boo to the no OWB in HI. Decisions, decisions...

Yes, hopefully people who have already "been there and done that" to MLE will chime in RE: food.

Since I already had my (once in a lifetime?) Diamond status match from HHonors Gold, I think I'm going to have/try to status match Mrs. AJK instead.

I'd have to time the match so that a) I can have her apply for Hyatt CC to get two suite nights, and 2) be a diamond for when we go.

Problem is, I'd likely have to book sooner than the 3 months status match period to secure availability... I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Thanks for the help so far.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on December 20, 2011, 03:09:07 PM
Boo to the no OWB in HI. Decisions, decisions...

Yes, hopefully people who have already "been there and done that" to MLE will chime in RE: food.

Since I already had my (once in a lifetime?) Diamond status match from HHonors Gold, I think I'm going to have/try to status match Mrs. AJK instead.

I'd have to time the match so that a) I can have her apply for Hyatt CC to get two suite nights, and 2) be a diamond for when we go.

Problem is, I'd likely have to book sooner than the 3 months status match period to secure availability... I guess I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Thanks for the help so far.
assuming you have two nights in suite i would get the free nights without suites then do diamond status match for the stay and ask them for your honeymoon if they can upgrade the non suite portion of your stay to suite
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 03:21:55 PM
That's not a bad idea... that would at least remove the one hurdle of not having to wait until only 3 months out to book the hotel.

Thanks for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on December 20, 2011, 06:19:58 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8423.0

Check this out. I wrote about kosher food... I had delicious meals every day... still working on the rest

Customs is no issue, they dont allow alcohol or pork, if you take meat make sure its labeled in english, in case they ask. Dont bring wine, only grape juice...

If you go in may or august its a low season because of monsoon. We were there during monsoon time as well and had 2x15 min rain, the rest was blue sky. YOu can get good deals for this low season time, we paid less then 500 a night... but the deals will come beginning of next year

As I said, dont get tied to a brand hotel for a few freebies, if you travel around the world go to the nicest place and sell your points. Even if you get a ow villa at the hyatt, you dont have your own pool. I know you are by the ocean, but chilling in a fresh water pool whenever you want in complete privacy cant be beat.... And the hyatt is not as nice as alot of other resorts in the maldives

@dan I had wifi,normal cell reception, BBM





Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2011, 06:30:42 PM
@dan I had wifi,normal cell reception, BBM
I guess my statement is just for VZW and Sprint folk then.  I actually loved being unreachable for a month during our RTW.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on December 20, 2011, 07:09:04 PM
I guess my statement is just for VZW and Sprint folk then.  I actually loved being unreachable for a month during our RTW.

VZW and Sprint have daul-mode (CDMA+GSM) phones (and exorbitant roaming charges IME).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on December 20, 2011, 07:10:49 PM
If you have WiFi can't you just use that to make calls?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2011, 07:11:33 PM
If you have WiFi can't you just use that to make calls?
Still getting used to having wifi on my phone :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on December 20, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
If you have WiFi can't you just use that to make calls?
how can u use it to make calls?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on December 20, 2011, 07:39:48 PM
how can u use it to make calls?

Via an app, I guess.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 20, 2011, 07:42:31 PM
Via an app, I guess.

Skype
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: mguy on December 20, 2011, 08:05:33 PM
One of your negatives for BOB is the expensive flight from PPT. So did you consider Moorea? I know it's been asked before here how it compares to BOB and I think the feeling was BOB is just in a class of its own. But you're already considering other places...

I know someone who did Moorea a few months ago in an OWB at the Hilton. I saw the pictures - they were amazing.

BTW - This person is an accomplished traveler who does thorough research. If you'd like me to ask any details, I can.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 08:42:43 PM
One of your negatives for BOB is the expensive flight from PPT. So did you consider Moorea? I know it's been asked before here how it compares to BOB and I think the feeling was BOB is just in a class of its own. But you're already considering other places...

I know someone who did Moorea a few months ago in an OWB at the Hilton. I saw the pictures - they were amazing.

BTW - This person is an accomplished traveler who does thorough research. If you'd like me to ask any details, I can.

Thanks -

Which reminds me: last I read (on DDF) the transfer fee for the the Hyatt was like $1000  :o

Anyone know if its still the same or where I can check?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on December 20, 2011, 08:45:40 PM
Thanks -

Which reminds me: last I read (on DDF) the transfer fee for the the Hyatt was like $1000  :o

Anyone know if its still the same or where I can check?
http://maldives.hadahaa.park.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/services/maps/index.jsp
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on December 20, 2011, 08:47:09 PM
http://maldives.hadahaa.park.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/services/maps/index.jsp

Thanks. $466/pp. (Plus $25/pp extra starting 1/12.)

Yikes.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on December 20, 2011, 08:53:28 PM
Thanks. $466/pp. (Plus $25/pp extra starting 1/12.)

Yikes.
yea yikes!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: eliteflyer on January 02, 2012, 10:28:18 AM
If the spa is your sort of thing, check to make sure it will be open before you go. See here for spas in Maldives being closed down because they are "anti-islamic"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16365254
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 02, 2012, 11:10:47 AM
If the spa is your sort of thing, check to make sure it will be open before you go. See here for spas in Maldives being closed down because they are "anti-islamic"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16365254

Yeah, read that the other day. There seems to be some uncertainty if that will actually go into effect.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on January 19, 2012, 08:31:55 AM
TPG is reporting both intercontinental bora bora properties dropped tp only 30k per night its not overwater bungalow but maybe you can buy up
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 19, 2012, 09:37:51 AM
TPG is reporting both intercontinental bora bora properties dropped tp only 30k per night its not overwater bungalow but maybe you can buy up
Of course you can buy up, it may just cost you big bucks negating the savings with the points.

The advantage here is that you can buy unlimited amounts of points on the cheap. Whereas other points can otherwise be hard/expensive to come by.
So may be cheaper then paying for it with cash but perhaps not the cheapest option (points wise) in Bora Bora.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on January 19, 2012, 11:01:34 AM
Showing 50K when I search.
Really depends on what the buy-up is, as you'd have to be nuts to go all the way to BOB or MLE and not stay in an OWB.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 19, 2012, 11:30:53 AM
Showing 50K when I search.
Really depends on what the buy-up is, as you'd have to be nuts to go all the way to BOB or MLE and not stay in an OWB.
Yup, looks like it changed sometime early this morning.
Was still showing 30k at ~5am ET.

Its still not a bad deal (basically paying $300) if you are ambassador and use BOGO as they generally won't make you change.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: stever on January 19, 2012, 02:04:45 PM
if you really want to go a far but incredible place look into seychelles they have a gorgeous hilton there
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 19, 2012, 02:57:09 PM
if you really want to go a far but incredible place look into seychelles they have a gorgeous hilton there

...and sharks (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14552788)....
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: stever on January 19, 2012, 02:59:24 PM
...and sharks (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14552788)....
ah there are sharks in the atlantic too  :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2012, 03:15:02 PM
Is there any reason I should not be considering going to one of these places over a Shabbas?


...and sharks (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14552788)....

Heck of a way to go, being on your honeymoon... man.

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2012, 05:30:54 PM
Also -- anyone been to a MLE/BOB type place in Malaysia? Should I be considering that?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2012, 05:42:57 PM
Also -- anyone been to a MLE/BOB type place in Malaysia? Should I be considering that?
If you don't care about OWBs there are plenty of other options.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 31, 2012, 07:02:33 PM
Also -- anyone been to a MLE/BOB type place in Malaysia? Should I be considering that?
Langkawi is apparently really nice.
Eli was there, he may be able to help out.

There's tons of places to go.
You gotta decide what type of vacation you want or you'll be coming up with places for ages.

OWB sounds awesome for a honeymoon (or any time actually) and that kind of narrows down the options.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2012, 07:04:45 PM
One day I'll make it to an OWB :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 31, 2012, 07:06:06 PM
One day I'll make it to an OWB :P
Not until the airport transfers can be had with miles ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
Not until the airport transfers can be had with miles ;)
Nah, I'm willing to buy the transfer, now it's just a matter of waiting until we can leave Rafi with the folks and then deciding on BOB or MLE.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 31, 2012, 07:08:42 PM
Nah, I'm willing to buy the transfer, now it's just a matter of waiting until we can leave Rafi with the folks and then deciding on BOB or MLE.
If only SPG didn't have the stupid double double points requirement.
SR BOB looks incredible!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2012, 07:12:24 PM
If only SPG didn't have the stupid double double points requirement.
SR BOB looks incredible!
Yup, probably the worst use of SPG in the system.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on January 31, 2012, 07:57:59 PM
Langkawi is apparently really nice.
Eli was there, he may be able to help out.

There's tons of places to go.
You gotta decide what type of vacation you want or you'll be coming up with places for ages.

OWB sounds awesome for a honeymoon (or any time actually) and that kind of narrows down the options.

Four Seasons in Langkawi is the only reason to go to Malaysia. One of the best resorts on earth but no OWB.

I convinced Eli to go and he very much enjoyed.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 31, 2012, 08:08:19 PM
Four Seasons in Langkawi is the only reason to go to Malaysia. One of the best resorts on earth but no OWB.

I convinced Eli to go and he very much enjoyed.
IIRC, he also got a good rate.

Is it generally reasonably priced? (For its class if hotel)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
Thanks for all the comments, guys.

I'd *really* love to get an OWB this time 'round, but only if I can convince the MLE GM to upgrade my suite nights considering my status and it being h'moon. Don't wanna pay for that outta pocket.

In the event I can't swing the OWB at MLE, I'm going to have to consider other options.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2012, 08:12:37 PM
Four Seasons in Langkawi is the only reason to go to Malaysia. One of the best resorts on earth but no OWB.

I convinced Eli to go and he very much enjoyed.

Four Seasons doesn't have a loyalty program, right? That's a cash-only hotel?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 31, 2012, 08:20:06 PM
Four Seasons doesn't have a loyalty program, right? That's a cash-only hotel?
If you would've stayed numerous times, you may have been invited.

But none per se.

But if you were going to drop 10's of 1000's of points/night, paying cash may not be that much more.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2012, 08:26:43 PM
If you would've stayed numerous times, you may have been invited.

But none per se.

But if you were going to drop 10's of 1000's of points/night, paying cash may not be that much more.

I hear ya. I just wanna burn some points :P

Is there any reason I should not be considering going to one of these places over a Shabbas?

Bump - would love some opinions.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on January 31, 2012, 09:54:29 PM
Thanks for all the comments, guys.

I'd *really* love to get an OWB this time 'round, but only if I can convince the MLE GM to upgrade my suite nights considering my status and it being h'moon. Don't wanna pay for that outta pocket.

In the event I can't swing the OWB at MLE, I'm going to have to consider other options.

FYI, Almost everyone going to the Maldives is on their honeymoon so that won't work
IIRC, he also got a good rate.

Is it generally reasonably priced? (For its class if hotel)

Occasionally a good deal can be had but for $550 a night, your spending the equivalent of about 25k SPG and getting a lot more!

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on January 31, 2012, 09:55:56 PM


Bump - would love some opinions.

When I go away I try and spend Shabbos somewhere that I can get a minyan and kosher meals. If you are going the Maldives then Colombo, Sri Lanka has a very nice Chabad. BOB is very far from everything
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 31, 2012, 10:03:40 PM
Say your writing a TR on a major blog and you'd like to experience the best the they have ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2012, 11:03:55 PM
FYI, Almost everyone going to the Maldives is on their honeymoon so that won't work

A good point... Hey, it's worth a shot.

When I go away I try and spend Shabbos somewhere that I can get a minyan and kosher meals. If you are going the Maldives then Colombo, Sri Lanka has a very nice Chabad. BOB is very far from everything

Great idea about Columbo and Chabad. Anywhere else I should consider staying for Shabbas in that part of the world?

Say your writing a TR on a major blog and you'd like to experience the best the they have ;)

 :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on January 31, 2012, 11:16:23 PM
Almost every major city in SE Asia has a chabad house.

HKG is great for shabbos.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 12:32:56 PM
Almost every major city in SE Asia has a chabad house.

HKG is great for shabbos.

Great, thanks.

So maybe I'll leave pre-weekend, go to a city in SE Asia for Shabbas (maybe CMB), and then try to dart over to MLE on Saturday night or Sunday.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on February 01, 2012, 12:36:08 PM
So maybe I'll leave pre-weekend, go to a city in SE Asia for Shabbas (maybe CMB), and then try to dart over to MLE on Saturday night or Sunday.

Might be prudent to find out what Chabad of Sri Lanka is like (I have no idea) and whether there are decent hotels close by) before deciding to go that route.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 01:05:09 PM
Might be prudent to find out what Chabad of Sri Lanka is like (I have no idea) and whether there are decent hotels close by) before deciding to go that route.

Damaxer91 said a few posts earlier that it's a very nice Chabad. I checked online and they also have shabbas meals which is a big plus.

I'll check the hotels in CMB around the Chabad if and when I get a workable routing there.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on February 01, 2012, 01:18:27 PM
I was shabbes in the maldives at our hotel. In was a amazing relaxing shabbes. Eating on our porch on the owb, hearing the waves, it was really amazing.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 01:22:55 PM
I was shabbes in the maldives at our hotel. In was a amazing relaxing shabbes. Eating on our porch on the owb, hearing the waves, it was really amazing.
TR  (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8423.msg122511#msg122511)  :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 01:28:40 PM
I was shabbes in the maldives at our hotel. In was a amazing relaxing shabbes. Eating on our porch on the owb, hearing the waves, it was really amazing.

OK, you've convinced me to make Shabbas in MLE a possibility :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 01, 2012, 01:29:05 PM
I was shabbes in the maldives at our hotel. In was a amazing relaxing shabbes. Eating on our porch on the owb, hearing the waves, it was really amazing.
Was the minyan in your OWB or do they have one especially for shabbos minyan? ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on February 01, 2012, 01:34:53 PM
Was the minyan in your OWB or do they have one especially for shabbos minyan? ;)

You can always have a minyan with Google+ Hangout :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 01:35:23 PM
Was the minyan in your OWB or do they have one especially for shabbos minyan? ;)
Staying at the Maldives he probably davened 5x a day  :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
Staying at the Maldives he probably davened 5x a day  :D

Haha
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 02:59:40 PM
@AJK Anantara Dhigu - Maldives coming up on JS
American can do 45k each way to Male in coach and its 30k in business each way from CDG on Etihad
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 03:15:08 PM
@AJK Anantara Dhigu - Maldives coming up on JS

Link?

American can do 45k each way to Male in coach and its 30k in business each way from CDG on Etihad

Can you elaborate?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
Link?
My bad it just went active. (http://www.jetsetter.com/hotels/maldives/south-male-atoll/825/anantara-dhigu-resort-spa?nm=calendar&cl=4) OWB=$875/nt
Can you elaborate?
You can book to MLE through AA reqrds on Etihad for 60k in Business rt from CDG or 90k in Coach from JFK
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 03:21:55 PM
You can book to MLE through AA...90k in Coach from JFK
Not true AFAIK.  Would require booking 2 separate awards and overnighting both ways in AUH.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
Not true AFAIK.  Would require booking 2 separate awards and overnighting both ways in AUH.
Just got off the phone with them. She was willing to book me a rt from CDG to MLE on Etihad with one stop in AUH (for 2 hrs and 20 min).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 03:26:22 PM
Just got off the phone with them. She was willing to book me a rt from CDG to MLE on Etihad with one stop in AUH (for 2 hrs and 20 min).
I'm talking about from ORD/JFK.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 03:28:00 PM
I'm talking about from ORD/JFK.
Also not true AFAIK. She couldn't find availability JFK-CDG direct, so she was willing to do JFK-LHR-CDG-AUH-MLE for 45k.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 03:29:40 PM
Also not true AFAIK. She couldn't find availability JFK-CDG direct, so she was willing to do JFK-LHR-CDG-AUH-MLE for 45k.
Again, I'm talking about the direct JFK/ORD-AUH-MLE flights.

JFK-LHR-CDG-AUH-MLE and then 2 more flights and a boat transfer...sounds more like a nightmare.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
My bad it just went active. (http://www.jetsetter.com/hotels/maldives/south-male-atoll/825/anantara-dhigu-resort-spa?nm=calendar&cl=4) OWB=$875/nt

Thanks. Great find. Will have to research a bit more.

JFK-LHR-CDG-AUH-MLE and then 2 more flights and a boat transfer...sounds more like a nightmare.

What two more?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 03:32:34 PM
$875/night is a great find?
Why not just go to BOB?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 03:33:55 PM
Again, I'm talking about the direct JFK/ORD-AUH-MLE flights.
I mentioned I was looking from CDG to her so not sure if she wouldv'e done direct to AUH if not. Could be.
JFK-LHR-CDG-AUH-MLE and then 2 more flights and a boat transfer...sounds more like a nightmare.
If you make two trips out of it and leave from CDG for 60k rt in Business...doesn't sound too bad.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2012, 03:34:08 PM
$875/night is a great find?
Why not just go to BOB?

I'm seeing $495/night in April/May... I guess those are not for OWB?

EDIT: You're right. Not for OWB.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on February 01, 2012, 03:38:22 PM
I'm seeing $495/night in April/May... I guess those are not for OWB?

Ya my bad $655 for OWB for April and May.
Click the dates you want and you will have the option to chose the OWB after.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 03:38:31 PM
If you make two trips out of it and leave from CDG for 60k rt in Business...doesn't sound too bad.
2 trips out of it both ways...

I'm seeing $495/night in April/May... I guess those are not for OWB?

EDIT: You're right. Not for OWB.
I didn't look, was just quoting Mocha.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on February 07, 2012, 08:14:47 AM
mle not looking so hot right now http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/07/world/asia/maldives-president-resigns/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 07, 2012, 12:02:00 PM
mle not looking so hot right now http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/07/world/asia/maldives-president-resigns/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hmm... I wonder how this will affect tourism...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 07, 2012, 02:38:45 PM
When trying to UG to a OWB at the Hyatt MLE, how would you suggest I do it?

1. Apply the free suite nights via the RSVP line, and then contact the Hyatt GM to confirm an UG, or
2. Contact the Hyatt GM initially to book the RSVP.

Other suggestions are surely welcome.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 07, 2012, 04:18:15 PM
When trying to UG to a OWB at the Hyatt MLE, how would you suggest I do it?

1. Apply the free suite nights via the RSVP line, and then contact the Hyatt GM to confirm an UG, or
2. Contact the Hyatt GM initially to book the RSVP.

Other suggestions are surely welcome.

Well, it seems, at least according to one (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16789481-post55.html), that if you are a Diamond the two free nights in a suite are in OWB?!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 03:54:07 PM
My goodness.

Have been checking LAX-PPT for awards in J and I don't see any for months.

I knew it was hard, but this hard?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2012, 03:55:01 PM
I doubt thats really the case.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
I doubt thats really the case.

I'm using Air France to check for availability and don't see any for May-Sept.

I know DL also partners with Air Tahiti Nui -- do you know the best way to search them?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 04:03:11 PM
It's possible you're right and I'm doing something wrong, but I just rechecked LAX-PPT in J on AF for May, June, July, and August.

This is what I get:

Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 05, 2012, 04:09:38 PM
It's possible you're right and I'm doing something wrong, but I just rechecked LAX-PPT in J on AF for May, June, July, and August.

This is what I get:
Not kdai to get an expert flyer account for a trip like this?
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 04:11:01 PM
Not kdai to get an expert flyer account for a trip like this?

GMTA -- after I couldn't find anything on AF website, I used EF to confirm: no availability in J.

Maybe Dan can prove me wrong.
Title: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: MLM on April 05, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
I think LIH and OGG would be a great option
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 04:19:44 PM
Aha, I found 2 seats PPT-LAX in J on TN.

Too bad there isn't any availability LAX-PPT :)

I think LIH and OGG would be a great option

No OWB there :( but always a backup option...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 08, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
The TN flight LAX-PPT actually originates in CDG and TN7 CDG-LAX-PPT has better availability.

So if youre up for a trip to Paris, 2 seats are available on May 13,14,15
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 10:49:18 AM
The TN flight LAX-PPT actually originates in CDG and TN7 CDG-LAX-PPT has better availability.

So if youre up for a trip to Paris, 2 seats are available on May 13,14,15

Even if we were up for a trip to CDG (so out of the wayyy), I just checked EF, and did not see any availability for those days...

Though since last week, I saw a couple more options for PPT-LAX, but not options for LAX-PPT.

Still zero J availability on AF thru June.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 09, 2012, 12:06:07 PM
Im still seeing it...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 12:36:41 PM
Im still seeing it...

You're right. I'm not sure what I did wrong.

Is this insane:

NYC-CDG -- ?
Tu 5/15 TN7, CDG-LAX,11:30am-2:30pm, Business
2:00 connection in LAX
Tu 5/15 TN7, LAX-PPT,4:30pm-10:00pm, Business
Su 5/20 T78, PPT-NRT, 6:30am-1:25pm +1, Business
8:20 connection in NRT
Mo 5/21 AF277, NRT-CDG, 9:55pm-4:15am +1, Business
CDG-NYC -- ?
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 09, 2012, 03:10:01 PM
You're right. I'm not sure what I did wrong.

Is this insane:

NYC-CDG -- ?
Tu 5/15 TN7, CDG-LAX,11:30am-2:30pm, Business
2:00 connection in LAX
Tu 5/15 TN7, LAX-PPT,4:30pm-10:00pm, Business
Su 5/20 T78, PPT-NRT, 6:30am-1:25pm +1, Business
8:20 connection in NRT
Mo 5/21 AF277, NRT-CDG, 9:55pm-4:15am +1, Business
CDG-NYC -- ?
Travel half way around the world for 4 days? Can't go for longer?
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 03:19:34 PM
Travel half way around the world for 4 days? Can't go for longer?

It's actually entirely around the world and then some :P

Almost 30,000 miles.

I'm governed by availability. I'd be able to add a day onto the front end, but beyond that I'd have to stay like 11 or 12 nights, something I don't have enough points to wing.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 09, 2012, 03:35:14 PM
12 nights where? Can You could go somewhere pay (!!) For a few nights not so expensively? Maybe that makes sense
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 06:17:18 PM
Well, with your help guys, I have the following on hold:

4/30, LH401, JFK-FRA, 15:55-5:35 +1 in Business
Connect time in FRA is 9 hours 10 minutes (likely enough time to grab a bite)
5/1, TG921, FRA-BKK, 14:45-6:25 +1 in First
Connect time in BKK is 16 hours (plenty of time to do some touring)
5/2, TG306, BKK-CMB, 22:25-00:15 +1 in Business

--Buy relatively inexpensive ticket from CMB-MLE to fly on either 5/3, 5/4, or 5/6--

5/9, EY279, MLE-AUH, 20:40-23:55, in Business
5/10, EY101, AUH-JFK, 10:00-16:30, in First

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 09, 2012, 07:45:49 PM
You're right. I'm not sure what I did wrong.

Is this insane:

NYC-CDG -- ?
Tu 5/15 TN7, CDG-LAX,11:30am-2:30pm, Business
2:00 connection in LAX
Tu 5/15 TN7, LAX-PPT,4:30pm-10:00pm, Business
Su 5/20 T78, PPT-NRT, 6:30am-1:25pm +1, Business
8:20 connection in NRT
Mo 5/21 AF277, NRT-CDG, 9:55pm-4:15am +1, Business
CDG-NYC -- ?
It really depends on your budget and time allowance but I would go to Paris before Shabbos, spend a couple nights there and head to PPT on Sunday or Monday allowing more time in French Polynesia.

Why return via CDG? Check NH HND-LAX and AA NRT/HND-JFK which both generally have very good availability.
Well, with your help guys, I have the following on hold:

4/30, LH401, JFK-FRA, 15:55-5:35 +1 in Business
Connect time in FRA is 9 hours 10 minutes (likely enough time to grab a bite)
5/1, TG921, FRA-BKK, 14:45-6:25 +1 in First
Connect time in BKK is 16 hours (plenty of time to do some touring)
5/2, TG306, BKK-CMB, 22:25-00:15 +1 in Business

--Buy relatively inexpensive ticket from CMB-MLE to fly on either 5/3, 5/4, or 5/6--

5/9, EY279, MLE-AUH, 20:40-23:55, in Business
5/10, EY101, AUH-JFK, 10:00-16:30, in First

Thoughts?
That's a very long time in transit...

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 08:31:56 PM
Why return via CDG? Check NH HND-LAX and AA NRT/HND-JFK which both generally have very good availability.

How would I get from PPT-HND/NRT? Would I have to book a separate award?

That's a very long time in transit...

Too long?

The way I have it now, we can explore/eat in FRA and in BKK...
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 09, 2012, 09:45:27 PM
Too long?

The way I have it now, we can explore/eat in FRA and in BKK...
Still a long tone
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 09:48:24 PM
Still a long tone

 ???
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 01:24:34 AM
Looks like there's 2 biz PPT-LAX on 5/21.

Put em hold while you can...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
Looks like there's 2 biz PPT-LAX on 5/21.

Put em hold while you can...

Yeah, I saw those. I'm just trying to figure out if I fly NYC-CDG-PPT-LAX-NYC if I'll be getting gouged on the the number of miles needed.

It seems to me that I'd need:

a OW award from NYC-CDG on a carrier that only charges half of a RT
a OW award from CDG-PPT (any idea if TN charges half for OW?)
a OW award from PPT-LAX, and
a OW award from LAX-NYC (maybe AA?)

Seems like I'd have to use a whole bunch more miles than if I were able to secure a LAX-PPT-LAX route, right?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 09:43:02 AM
Yeah, I saw those. I'm just trying to figure out if I fly NYC-CDG-PPT-LAX-NYC if I'll be getting gouged on the the number of miles needed.

It seems to me that I'd need:

a OW award from NYC-CDG on a carrier that only charges half of a RT
a OW award from CDG-PPT (any idea if TN charges half for OW?)
a OW award from PPT-LAX, and
a OW award from LAX-NYC (maybe AA?)

Seems like I'd have to use a whole bunch more miles than if I were able to secure a LAX-PPT-LAX route, right?
NY-CDG OW award.

CDG-PPT-LAX is OW with AA and PPT-LAX-NY is return with AA.

Could book with Delta as well but they started charging YQ on TN and LAX-NY isnt easy to find at saver level.

Btw, what was the cost of MLE-AUH-JFK? Did you hold with AA?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 09:52:10 AM
NY-CDG OW award.

CDG-PPT-LAX is OW with AA and PPT-LAX-NY is return with AA.

Could book with Delta as well but they started charging YQ on TN and LAX-NY isnt easy to find at saver level.

Btw, what was the cost of MLE-AUH-JFK? Did you hold with AA?

Wow, I had no idea DL imposed YQ on TN. That's a tremendously disappointing surprise. (I thought that was the one reason SkyPesos aren't as bad as they're made out to be.) Not that there are any available for the next three months, but does DL charge YQ on AF redemptions to PPT?

The MLE-AUH-JFK in F cost 180K (90K each), and yeah, I held it with AA.

Go to Bora Bora! ;)

(Figured I'd respond here to keep it on topic)

I see you're pushing for BOB :)

Gary actually just did a TR of his trip to the Maldives and he said he liked it better...

For me the Maldives is better for one reason: I have Hyatt points/nights. I'd have to finagle and/or sell/buy (https://dailygetaways.ustravel.org/OfferDetails.aspx?pid=29033Ccb-855c-4668-9dd2-9d4db8b927fd) points to make BOB work in an OWB.

BOB is better as I could stopover in LAX on the way back, it seems like its closer, and its BOB!!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 09:57:25 AM
Wow, I had no idea DL imposed YQ on TN. That's a tremendously disappointing surprise. (I thought that was the one reason SkyPesos aren't as bad as they're made out to be.) Not that there are any available for the next three months, but does DL charge YQ on AF redemptions to PPT?

The MLE-AUH-JFK in F cost 180K, and yeah, I held it with AA.
No YQ with AF.

180k each?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 10:00:58 AM
No YQ with AF.

180k each?

90K each. I fixed it above and added a couple things.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 10:26:49 AM
Thats good. For some time AA wasnt pricing it as one award.

You really have to add everything up and see what works best for you.
Id still put the PPT flights on hold just in case.

Either way, it would be a massive let down to not get an OWB which seems to be only able to be confirmed with $$$.
May be worth comparing those as well as the point amounts...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 10:33:34 AM
Thats good. For some time AA wasnt pricing it as one award.

Yeah, I had read that. But, thankfully, the past two times I've held MLE-AUH-JFK, it priced at 90K each.

You really have to add everything up and see what works best for you.
Id still put the PPT flights on hold just in case.

Either way, it would be a massive let down to not get an OWB which seems to be only able to be confirmed with $$$.
May be worth comparing those as well as the point amounts...

You're 100% right. To get an OWB confirmed in MLE, I'd need 22K Hyatt and $350 (plus taxes/fees). Not a terrible deal, but when I consider that I could get an OWB in BOB at the Hilton for about the same cost (or perhaps even cheaper someplace else), MLE doesn't look AS attractive.

Man this is a tough decision.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 11:12:37 AM
It may be worth checking what the OWB cost outright.

OWB, 22k Hyatt @ 1.65 =$363+350=$713++ per night...

There are often offers (especially if booked through Amex FHR or a Virtuoso agent) of stay x, get 1 night free which may work for you.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 11:20:13 AM
Just looking at the points side of things,
Hyatt: 5 nights @ 22K Hyatt=110K (valued) @ 1.65cpp =$1815
Hilton: 5 nights (presuming youre Gold) 200K (valued) @ .5cpp=$1000

Your Hilton and Hyatt numbers are just for a base room.

To get a Hyatt OWB, you need 22,000 + $350 per night.
To get a Hilton OWB, you need about 125,000 per night--and availability isn't so easy to find. (I think you may be able to straight out pay for the room for about $8-900.)

Then again, youll have 4 nights in Paris which need to be paid for.
But its a trip itself...

As far as flights go:
NY-CDG: 50k UA
CDG-LAX-PPT: 60k AA (Needs double checking)
PPT-LAX-NY: 62.5k AA

OR

NY-FRA-BKK-CMB:60k UA
MLE-AUH-JFK: 90k AA

But no doubt the planes on the second itinerary blow the first out of the water.

I wouldn't have to stay four nights in Paris, but you're right, those nights need to be paid for.

Actually, the NY-FRA-BKK-CMB itin is costing me 80K because FRA-BKK is in F. So, total for NY-MLE its: 80K UA + ~$200 (for the CMB-MLE leg).

If it matters, the BOB trip is 20,000 miles traveled, and the MLE trip is 28,000.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 11:23:54 AM
It may be worth checking what the OWB cost outright.

OWB, 22k Hyatt @ 1.65 =$363+350=$713++ per night...

There are often offers (especially if booked through Amex FHR or a Virtuoso agent) of stay x, get 1 night free which may work for you.

A Hyatt OWB, purchased outright, is about $1200.

Even if I found a stay 4, get 5th free, I wouldn't come out ahead: $4800 vs. $3565.

I wonder if it's possible to only pay the $350 buyup for the first night? If so, maybe they wouldn't kick us out of the OWB for the remainder (assuming they had availability).

Man, this whole endeavor would be so much simpler with an unlimited budget, eh? :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 11:32:41 AM
I deleted my post to update it because I forgot about Hilton's "enchantment" of HHonors with Premium Room Rewards...

(OT, but who wants to bet we will see lots of those at the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem?)

If paying, it opens a whole new can of worms. Theres tons of properties, no need to stick with the big brands...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 10, 2012, 11:34:43 AM
http://www.spg.com/amex5for4
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 10, 2012, 11:35:33 AM
What does the HH BOB charge for a confirmed cash or points upgrade to OWB?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 11:41:19 AM
What does the HH BOB charge for a confirmed cash or points upgrade to OWB?
Of last reports, around $200/night.

But the problem is, with the new "enhancements", its really hard to book at a normal rate...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 11:42:46 AM
http://www.spg.com/amex5for4
Splurge and go with the St Regis :)

Forget that, not available the dates youre looking for.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 11:42:57 AM
I deleted my post to update it because I forgot about Hilton's "enchantment" of HHonors with Premium Room Rewards...

I'm not familiar with what you're alluding to...

(OT, but who wants to bet we will see lots of those at the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem?)

If paying, it opens a whole new can of worms. Theres tons of properties, no need to stick with the big brands...

True, I had thought about that a couple days ago and it slipped my mind. Thanks for reminding me. Perhaps I'd be able to find an OWB in BOB for ~$500 a night at a smaller resort...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 11:44:11 AM
http://www.spg.com/amex5for4

Thanks for the link!

Of last reports, around $200/night.

But the problem is, with the new "enhancements", its really hard to book at a normal rate...

I guess now I could use an explanation :)

200K for five nights + only $1,000 to get a confirmed upgrade to an OWB seems to be a great deal...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 11:49:20 AM
Hilton HHonors has a VIP award discount for elite members where 5 nights in a Cat 7 would cost 200K.

Then they "enhanced" the program and Premium Room awards which allowed members to redeem points for better rooms.
Once this came into effect, the all suite (premium room) properties upped the prices on almost all the rooms.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 10, 2012, 12:00:30 PM
Hilton HHonors has a VIP award discount for elite members where 5 nights in a Cat 7 would cost 200K.

Then they "enhanced" the program and Premium Room awards which allowed members to redeem points for better rooms.
Once this came into effect, the all suite (premium room) properties upped the prices on almost all the rooms.
Are HHonors standard rooms capacity controlled now?
I see "KING GUESTROOM GARDEN VIEW", but only rarely is there a points option for it.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 12:04:21 PM
Hilton HHonors has a VIP award discount for elite members where 5 nights in a Cat 7 would cost 200K.

Then they "enhanced" the program and Premium Room awards which allowed members to redeem points for better rooms.
Once this came into effect, the all suite (premium room) properties upped the prices on almost all the rooms.

I knew about the VIP discounted awards (chart  here (http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/search/hhonors/hhonors_hrr_code_matrix.jhtml)), but not the "enhancements."

When you say some properties upped the prices, do you mean with regard to the points required? If so, does that automatically mean they'd charge more $$ for a buyup to an OWB as well?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 12:06:46 PM
Are HHonors standard rooms capacity controlled now?
I see "KING GUESTROOM GARDEN VIEW", but only rarely is there a points option for it.
Something like that. Didnt manage to get through the 10's of pages on FT yet.
Some seem to have luck with the Diamond desk working something out but it seems pretty hard to get those redemptions now.

(May have to rethink buying loads of HH points...)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 10, 2012, 12:09:20 PM
(May have to rethink buying loads of HH points...)
Yup, with capacity controls you'd have to be a fool to invest in HH.  I'm sure the WA J'lem will have 1 room for redemption per night at standard rates. Man does HH stink.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 12:13:15 PM
I knew about the VIP discounted awards (chart  here (http://www.hilton.com/en/hi/hotels/search/hhonors/hhonors_hrr_code_matrix.jhtml)), but not the "enhancements."

When you say some properties upped the prices, do you mean with regard to the points required? If so, does that automatically mean they'd charge more $$ for a buyup to an OWB as well?
Once the rooms become "premium", the points required go off the charts.
But if you do book manage to book them, the buy up should still be in the same league.

IC Thalasso Bora Bora could also be an option.
Together with BOGO from Ambassador status ($200), you may be able to get all nights confirmed in OWB.
Straight points redemptions may also work as they only have 3 land villas (but you dont want to get stuck in them) for a decent price.

Get ready for your head to spin, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/intercontinental-hotels-priority-club-inter-continental-ambassador/1161417-ic-thalasso-bora-bora-master-thread-merged.html
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 12:14:03 PM
Yup, with capacity controls you'd have to be a fool to invest in HH.  I'm sure the WA J'lem will have 1 room for redemption per night at standard rates. Man does HH stink.
How many million have you got? ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 10, 2012, 12:33:09 PM
Seems like it's XPF 20K ($219) for HH Gold/Dia members to upgrade to an OWB, so if you can find standard points rooms, it's a good deal. (37,500 x ~.49=$183+$219=$402 per night for an OWB)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 12:37:07 PM
Once the rooms become "premium", the points required go off the charts.
But if you do book manage to book them, the buy up should still be in the same league.

Anyway to tell if a particular room type at a hotel has "gone premium?"

IC Thalasso Bora Bora could also be an option.
Together with BOGO from Ambassador status ($200), you may be able to get all nights confirmed in OWB.
Straight points redemptions may also work as they only have 3 land villas (but you dont want to get stuck in them) for a decent price.

Get ready for your head to spin, http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/intercontinental-hotels-priority-club-inter-continental-ambassador/1161417-ic-thalasso-bora-bora-master-thread-merged.html

My head is already spinning :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 12:44:19 PM
Seems like it's XPF 20K ($219) for HH Gold/Dia members to upgrade to an OWB, so if you can find standard points rooms, it's a good deal. (37,500 x ~.49=$183+$219=$402 per night for an OWB)

Thanks for the calculation. Time to call to see if standard rooms are available for my dates...

By the way, you mention that each night is 37,500 points, but if I get the VIP discount, wouldn't it be 40k/night? (200/5?)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 10, 2012, 12:47:08 PM
Why call? Just look online.
37,500 would be for 6+ nights.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 12:53:18 PM
Why call? Just look online.
37,500 would be for 6+ nights.

Thanks for the clarification.

Just checked 3, 4, and 5 nights and got a big zippo:

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 01:22:55 PM
Its like that for months...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 01:24:05 PM
Its like that for months...

Haha, yep.

I guess that idea isn't gonna work :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
The Hilton rep I just spoke to said they don't even offer standard redemptions at that hotel. Take from that what you will.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 10, 2012, 03:18:02 PM
I see plenty for later in the year
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 03:27:42 PM
I see plenty for later in the year

You're right. In fact, there are standard rates available for 7/27-8/05. Just another piece of evidence that shows CSRs don't know jack.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 18, 2012, 02:54:40 PM
If you decide on MLE, this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15549.0) should help you.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 18, 2012, 03:03:08 PM
If you decide on MLE, this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15549.0) should help you.

Wow, does it.

Lots of J availability. Saw it this AM and totally didn't think to check to MLE.

Thanks!

How is their hard product?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 18, 2012, 03:11:31 PM
Obviously, depends on the plane but the new ones are nice, http://www.theage.com.au/travel/traveller-tips/flight-test-qatar-airways-business-class-20101202-18hpt.html
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 19, 2012, 05:34:05 PM
Anyone more knowledgeable than me care to rank these in terms of hard product in J?

LH A380
LH A330-300
LH A340-300
LH 747-400

LX A330-300

QR A320/321
QR A330-300
QR A340-600
QR 777-300ER

UA 777-200

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 19, 2012, 05:35:47 PM
LX A333 should be awesome.  LH lags.  UA depends on PMCO or PMUA.  QR I have no idea.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 19, 2012, 05:38:42 PM
Thanks.

So we have thus far:


I've heard all of LH's J product is angled flat (-1), and QR 777-300 is amazing.

Anyway to determine if a particular UA 777-200 will be the better PMCO?

Also, let me add LX 340-300 to the list.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 19, 2012, 05:43:58 PM
LX A333>LX A343.

PMCO 772: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_777_200_Flat.php
PMUA:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_D.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_3_New.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_2_New.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_1.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_2.php
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 19, 2012, 05:46:37 PM
Great, so I'll just check the particular seating map on UA.com.

777-200 PMCO > LX A343?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 19, 2012, 05:47:02 PM
lx a330 and a340 is the same in business, beats lh by far. I also prefers LX seat over UA, but UA beats LH. QR I dont know
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 19, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
lx a330 and a340 is the same in business, beats lh by far. I also prefers LX seat over UA, but UA beats LH. QR I dont know
Aren't the A333s much newer than the A343s?  Should be less wear and tear on the seats, no?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 22, 2012, 06:26:11 PM
the a340 had the old seats taken out and new seats put in at the same time, that the a330 were delivered, so with Swiss youwill have the exact same business on all longhaul aircrafts. F Class is better on the a330 as they didnt refit the a340 with new f, as the old F is still good enough.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 22, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
LX A333 better than LH on the new A380?

i.e. does the fact that I'd be flying on the A380 trump the better seat and service of the LX A333?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2012, 06:59:39 PM
i.e. does the fact that I'd be flying on the A380 trump the better seat and service of the LX A333?
Nope.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 12:25:34 AM
OK, which itin wins?

(Yes, neither is the paradigm of efficiency, but booking Qatar is like pulling teeth, with phantom availability etc.)

Note on itin #1: DOH-MLE is actually only 4:45, not the 14:45 it shows, so the entire itin is actually 10 hours less than it states, or 29:40 (vs. the second itin's 28:15).

Both are 120K in J, but the second one is going to cost me an extra $150 in close-in fees.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2012, 12:36:35 AM
Neither.  I'd take the BRU, ZRH, or MUC options.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 12:38:44 AM
Neither.  I'd take the BRU, ZRH, or MUC options.

Don't like that many Islamic countries?

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 12:48:53 AM
Also, I made these itin's to maximize time on the good J products (itin #1 = 12.5 hours on PMCO 772, and itin #2 = ~11 hrs on 773)

Itins from BRU/ZRH/MUC-MLE almost all just use QR's crappy A320/1 or A330, no?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2012, 12:59:03 AM
Lol, enjoy your quality EgyptAir flight :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 01:02:47 AM
Lol, enjoy your quality EgyptAir flight :D

Ha, I know, I know. All I can say is that I read the 773 is lie-flat. Can't speak for the service or the friendliness for non-muslims.

Doing a NYC-ZRH-DOH-MLE route gets you a great plane on NYC-ZRH, but then you're stuck with QR's crappier planes ZRH-DOH-MLE.

Not sure by suggesting MUC if you mean to take an LH plane... if so, are you recommending F?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 01:31:24 AM
Also, anyone know what's involved in getting an entry visa for DOH? United said I needed one.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 12:23:37 PM
Can anyone confirm if UA924 on 5/8 is lie-flat? It looks like it, but could use an expert.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 23, 2012, 02:09:57 PM
Is there any reason I should not be considering going to one of these places over a Shabbas?


The international dateline is highly contested among the poskim over certain areas in the Pacific, which may affect bora bora in terms of having a safek when is shabbos. Some poskim say you need to keep 2 days out there.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 06:59:45 PM
OK, either I'm booking the following or I'm not going. Don't have the head for looking at award space anymore :)

5/15, EY 100, JFK-AUH, 22:40-19:50 +1 in First (Duration 13:10)
5/17, EY 278, AUH-MLE, 09:20-14:40 in Business (Duration 4:20)

--vaca--

5/21, QR 383, MLE-DOH, 19:30-20:05 in Business (Duration 4:35)
Connect time in DOH of 3:15
5/22, LH 621, DOH-FRA, 01:20-06:50 in Business (Duration 6:30)
Connect time in FRA of :55
5/22, LH 1184, FRA-ZRH, 07:45-08:40 in Business (Duration 1:55)
Connect time in ZRH of 1:10
5/22, LX 16, ZRH-JFK, 09:50-12:35 in Business (7:45)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 23, 2012, 07:37:10 PM
You may need a vacation when you get back
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
You may need a vacation when you get back

 :D

It is what it is... may not have another opportunity like this in the future. All flights are in business/first, so it can't be that bad, huh?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2012, 08:50:22 PM
:D

It is what it is... may not have another opportunity like this in the future. All flights are in business/first, so it can't be that bad, huh?
You're do realize you're talking about a boatride and then 5 or 6 flight segments to get home.  I don't care if you're in a private jet you will be utterly wiped after that.
Not that I wouldn't do it myself in my pre-kids days, but it's not for the feint of heart.
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: sky121 on April 23, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
:D

It is what it is... may not have another opportunity like this in the future. All flights are in business/first, so it can't be that bad, huh?

I'm sure it won't be without its bumps but hopefully it will be a really great honeymoon!!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 09:07:15 PM
You're do realize you're talking about a boatride and then 5 or 6 flight segments to get home.  I don't care if you're in a private jet you will be utterly wiped after that.
Not that I wouldn't do it myself in my pre-kids days, but it's not for the feint of heart.

Yeah, we'll just have to make do. I've been looking for three solid days (in addition to the weeks prior), having almost the perfect booking, only to lose it by the time I call to put it on hold, etc etc.

With this itin, I don't have to pay close-in fees of $300, it's all in business and first, and the entire travel time isn't that terrible (especially with an overnight in AUH at the new PH). Anyway you slice it MLE is a PITA to get to. Take into account award availability and that PITA gets multiplied, oh, by about 1 bajillion.

We're both young and healthy, B'H. No time better than the present!
I'm sure it won't be without its bumps but hopefully it will be a really great honeymoon!!

Here's to hoping to bumps don't make us seasick :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
Now the question becomes, do I

a) stay at the Hyatt and hope for upgrade,
b) stay at the Hyatt and pay for confirmed upgrade, or
c) find another hotel that has OWB for about $5-600 a night
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 23, 2012, 10:23:47 PM
Now the question becomes, do I

a) stay at the Hyatt and hope for upgrade,
b) stay at the Hyatt and pay for confirmed upgrade, or
c) find another hotel that has OWB for about $5-600 a night
I vote against a and probably for c
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
I vote against a and probably for c

Yeah, I'd have to be an idiot to travel 24 hours and *hope* for an UG to an OWB.

Looking into "C" now. Found this so far:

http://about.luxislandresorts.com/en/maldives/lux-maldives/welcome.aspx
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 11:35:25 PM
Ding ding ding.

Pretty sure we'll end up at the Hilton Maldives Iru Fushi. I can get the employee rate of 25-30% off.

Plus side:

I am HHonors Gold which gets certain activities like snorkeling and fishing comp'd.
Jacuzzi on the deck.

Down side:

No private pool.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 23, 2012, 11:46:27 PM
Ding ding ding.

Pretty sure we'll end up at the Hilton Maldives Iru Fushi. I can get the employee rate of 25-30% off.

Plus side:

I am HHonors Gold which gets certain activities like snorkeling and fishing comp'd.
Jacuzzi on the deck.

Down side:

No private pool.

Oh well.
What's the total for four nights plus transfer?
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2012, 11:51:13 PM
What's the total for four nights plus transfer?

Transfer is $500/pp, but the upside is its only a 40 min sea plane ride to the hotel vs 60 min plane ride +30-40 min boat ride for PH.

The OWB will end up costing around $4-500/nt.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 24, 2012, 12:12:23 AM
Transfer is $500/pp, but the upside is its only a 40 min sea plane ride to the hotel vs 60 min plane ride +30-40 min boat ride for PH.

The OWB will end up costing around $4-500/nt.
3k for four nights and a ton of travel? Wouldn't you rather spend 2 Weeks in Hawaii?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:42:18 AM
3k for four nights and a ton of travel? Wouldn't you rather spend 2 Weeks in Hawaii?

MLE/BOB has been a dream of mine since I was a child. This is my chance :)

Also, after looking at pictures, I decided I can't go for only 4 days.

Instead of:

5/21, QR 383, MLE-DOH, 19:30-20:05 in Business (Duration 4:35)
Connect time in DOH of 3:15
5/22, LH 621, DOH-FRA, 01:20-06:50 in Business (Duration 6:30)
Connect time in FRA of :55
5/22, LH 1184, FRA-ZRH, 07:45-08:40 in Business (Duration 1:55)
Connect time in ZRH of 1:10
5/22, LX 16, ZRH-JFK, 09:50-12:35 in Business (7:45)

We'll do this:

5/22, QR 383, MLE-DOH, 19:30-20:05 in Business (Duration 4:35)
Connect time in DOH of 3:00
5/23, QR 61, DOH-ZRH, 01:05-06:30 in Business (Duration 6:25)
Connect time in ZRH of 1:10
5/23, LX 16, ZRH-JFK, 09:50-12:35 in Business (8:45)

One less leg, one more day. Win-win  ;D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 24, 2012, 12:46:31 AM
Nice!
Although I think you have a 3h 20m stop in ZRH, no?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:48:25 AM
Nice!
Although I think you have a 3h 20m stop in ZRH, no?

Yep. My bad.

I tried to get LH F MUC-JFK, but didn't work. (It showed online as being available, but wouldn't reserve and agent didn't see it on her end...)

EDIT: See attached. There it is, but no can do...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 24, 2012, 12:57:56 AM
Does it come up as available on Aeroplan or ANA?

Id stay the extra day over flying LH F.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 01:04:09 AM
Does it come up as available on Aeroplan or ANA?

Id stay the extra day over flying LH F.

I'd just move the JFK-MLE a couple days earlier and fly LH F, but I just checked ANA and its a no go. Oh well, there are worse things than saving 40K.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on April 24, 2012, 01:06:15 AM
I'd just move the JFK-MLE a couple days earlier and fly LH F, but I just checked ANA and its a no go. Oh well, there are worse things than saving 40K.
I had the same issue for my FIL hes actually global services so those agents are a lot nicer but i finally got an agent who called up lufthansa and was able to book the tickets even though it didnt show on the UA agents end so if u want call and ask them to call lufthansa
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 01:10:07 AM
I had the same issue for my FIL hes actually global services so those agents are a lot nicer but i finally got an agent who called up lufthansa and was able to book the tickets even though it didnt show on the UA agents end so if u want call and ask them to call lufthansa

You saw availability on UA.com? What about ANA?

I have less than no status on UA... Though I guess its possible, I'd be shocked if a regular CSR called LH to book it, especially when it actually does seem like phantom availability (I don't see on ANA, only on UA.com).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on April 24, 2012, 01:14:51 AM
You saw availability on UA.com? What about ANA?

I have less than no status on UA... Though I guess its possible, I'd be shocked if a regular CSR called LH to book it, especially when it actually does seem like phantom availability (I don't see on ANA, only on UA.com).
ti saw it on ua and aeroplan
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 01:22:49 AM
ti saw it on ua and aeroplan

Very weird.

Same thing with this flight (attached). On UA and Aero, but not ANA.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on April 24, 2012, 01:26:37 AM
Very weird.

Same thing with this flight (attached). On UA and Aero, but not ANA.
when the agent called lufthansa they said it was available
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 01:53:25 AM
As you might know i was in the maldives less then a year ago. My advice: dont stay in the hyatt. Dont schlep around the world and sell yourself to a brand for a few freebies. I stayed in halaveli, really nice. The standart room is a over water villa with private pool. That made a real diffrence, we spend hours in our pool just chilling. I was considering the hilton, but didnt take it, even through it was a little cheaper. Villas are not as private, much more people on the island, villas are not as nice...its not as secluded and quiet as halaveli

Check www.agoda.com for good deals in the maldives. I ended up booking it through a travel agent in england specialising on the maldives, he was about 200 dollars cheaper then agoda. Have to look up his contact details and pm them to you. But agoda is very cheap and had a good selection of resorts...

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 04:02:44 AM
http://www.purelymaldives.co.uk/

He is really good and was very friendly, he was at most resorts already, knows them well
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 04:08:20 AM
The only other resort I almost picked Zitahli Resorts & Spa Kuda-Funafaru with a Super deluxe aqua villa with pool. Looks like a very nice resort. Agoda has them on sale for 480 a night, also overwater villa, big pool.

Halaveli is on agoda for 590, check both of them and read feedback on tripadvisor. My advice, pick one of them.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 09:16:46 AM
@chuchem -- thanks so much for contact info and recommendations!

If you want to give me your name via PM, I'll be happy to let http://www.purelymaldives.co.uk/ know that you were the one who referred me.

I'll look myself in the meantime, but what was the xfer fee for the haleveli?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 09:19:40 AM
transfer fees change all the time because of the fuel. I think on agoda it will say the exact amount. When I booked purelymaldives was only able to beat agodas rate by halaveli and not zithali. I think both are great choices.

no need to give my name to purelymaldives, the next time i will go there will still be a long time, its a expensive place to go, but its paradise
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 09:22:38 AM
transfer fees change all the time because of the fuel. I think on agoda it will say the exact amount. When I booked purelymaldives was only able to beat agodas rate by halaveli and not zithali. I think both are great choices.

no need to give my name to purelymaldives, the next time i will go there will still be a long time, its a expensive place to go, but its paradise

Great, thanks.

Were there water activities at the Haleveli? I'd love to do some SCUBA, fishing, and jetskiing while there...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 09:34:07 AM
fishing and scuba yes, jetski not. most resorts in the maldives do not offer it. The maldives is all about peace and quiet. most people would not be happy with a jetski in fron of their watervilla. There are some low class party islands, there you will find all of this, disco, jetski, noise.... but thats not what most people are looking for....
Check tripadvisor and halavelis website, it will answer most of your questions....
If you dont have a PADI its not worth doing a "tourist" dive in the maldives. It goes upto a max of 15 feet and costs alot of money, we saw so many fish snorkeling, the water is so clear... we took a snorkeling boat tour costs half and was like snorkeling in a fishtank... sharks, turtles... you name it
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 09:43:47 AM
Good info yet again!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 09:47:15 AM
As you might know i was in the maldives less then a year ago. My advice: dont stay in the hyatt. Dont schlep around the world and sell yourself to a brand for a few freebies.
Did you read Gary's TR on the PH MLE?
That's a guy who's stayed in more luxury and exotic hotels than anyone here and called it one of the best he's ever been to...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 09:50:06 AM
Did you read Gary's TR on the PH MLE?
That's a guy who's stayed in more luxury and exotic hotels than anyone here and called it one of the best he's ever been to...

I did, and I've been back and forth with him about it. There are arguments to be made on both sides.

But the biggest one against the Hyatt is that it costs 22,000 HGP per night + ~$400 buy up per night.

Assuming comparable resorts, if I can get a beautiful OWB with a plunge pool, for only $5-600, it's a tough argument to beat.

Don't you agree that you're 22,000 HGP is worth more than $1-200?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 24, 2012, 09:54:31 AM
Did you read Gary's TR on the PH MLE?
That's a guy who's stayed in more luxury and exotic hotels than anyone here and called it one of the best he's ever been to...

Gary may be a travel expert, but Luxury Hotels aren't exactly his forte. His TR's are almost all on Hyatt's, Westin's and the occasional St. Regis. Hardly someone I would consult for a one time trip to the Maldives
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 10:43:31 AM
Assuming comparable resorts, if I can get a beautiful OWB with a plunge pool, for only $5-600, it's a tough argument to beat.
Agreed, if you can get it for that price then go for it.  But if it's going to be much more then perhaps not.  Also don't forget to factor tax on the paid rates versus no tax with points.

Also it makes a difference if you have expiring cc nights or are using points.  And it makes a difference if you stocked up on Hyatt money at Costco at 78% like I did in anticipation of an FFN that hasn't materialized.

I thought the Hyatt charged $350 for the buyup though?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 10:46:58 AM
Agreed, if you can get it for that price then go for it.  But if it's going to be much more then perhaps not.  Also don't forget to factor tax on the paid rates versus no tax with points.

Also it makes a difference if you have expiring cc nights or are using points.

I though the Hyatt charged $350 for the buyup though?

Good points. I'll be using an expiring suite night on the overnight in AUH at the PH. So I'll need to use another one at some point in the next few months. Shouldn't be such a "problem" ;)

$350 plus about 15-20% tax...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 10:48:54 AM
Just realized my passport expires within 3 months. Is that going to be an issue?

Also, just read this on the interwebs:

"Most Arab or Middle Eastern countries will refuse entry to you if you have an Israeli stamp in your passport. Apply for a new one if this is the case. Gregeris advises: “Get a second passport and use one to travel to Arab countries and one to Israel. Remember however that second passports are valid only for two years.""

Need I be concerned?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 10:50:43 AM
Just realized my passport expires within 3 months. Is that going to be an issue?
Yes
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 10:51:28 AM
Good points. I'll be using an expiring suite night on the overnight in AUH at the PH. So I'll need to use another one at some point in the next few months. Shouldn't be such a "problem" ;)

$350 plus about 15-20% tax...

My gut tells me with a suite night that I'd be able to talk the GM into confirming me into a OWB. YMMV though.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 10:55:11 AM
Gary may be a travel expert, but Luxury Hotels aren't exactly his forte. His TR's are almost all on Hyatt's, Westin's and the occasional St. Regis. Hardly someone I would consult for a one time trip to the Maldives

+1

I have spent hours checking every detail on alot of hotels. I compared prices as well. Halaveli and Zithali were the 2 best ones if money is a issue to you. My wife and I enjoyed the private plunge pool alot, as the were no znius issues. Most days we just stayed in the villa and chilled and went straight into the water from our porch.... I am not saying the hyatt isnt nice, but it does not compare to either. The villas at Halaveli are huge, I think zithalis are even bigger...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 24, 2012, 10:57:15 AM

"Most Arab or Middle Eastern countries will refuse entry to you if you have an Israeli stamp in your passport. Apply for a new one if this is the case. Gregeris advises: “Get a second passport and use one to travel to Arab countries and one to Israel. Remember however that second passports are valid only for two years.""

Need I be concerned?

No

But -3 months is def an issue
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 10:58:25 AM
Dan will always stay in a brand or with points, but in the maldives this is wrong... Compare the hotels, look at the villas from inside and outside... consider the shlep to the hyatt, plane and boat (no seaplane experience)

You are flying around the world, dont get blinded by freebies or chain loyality. I am Hyatt diamond, SPG plat and after looking at the spg and hyatt options for 5 minutes, they were of my list
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 10:59:49 AM
Yes

Ha, awesome. Hope I can get it done in 3 weeks :P

My gut tells me with a suite night that I'd be able to talk the GM into confirming me into a OWB. YMMV though.

Trust me, I tried. But I'd be impressed if you were able to pull it off. The GM said "the entire property is suites" etc.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 11:01:15 AM
Dan will always stay in a brand or with points, but in the maldives this is wrong... Compare the hotels, look at the villas from inside and outside... consider the shlep to the hyatt, plane and boat (no seaplane experience)

You are flying around the world, dont get blinded by freebies or chain loyality. I am Hyatt diamond, SPG plat and after looking at the spg and hyatt options for 5 minutes, they were of my list
Meh.
I'm looking in December and the Halaveli is $1,000/night.
I have 7 figures of banked HGP points plus cc nights to use (besides for having 7 figures of SPG and HH and a lifetime supply of free Fairmont nights).

Are you honestly saying in my situation you would lay out $6,000 for 6 nights there just because you get a small pool?

#dejavu
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 11:01:36 AM
Trust me, I tried. But I'd be impressed if you were able to pull it off. The GM said "the entire property is suites" etc.
Did you try a phone call?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 11:19:06 AM
Meh.
I'm looking in December and the Halaveli is $1,000/night.
I have 7 figures of banked HGP points plus cc nights to use (besides for having 7 figures of SPG and HH and a lifetime supply of free Fairmont nights).

Are you honestly saying in my situation you would lay out $6,000 for 6 nights there just because you get a small pool?

#dejavu

The operative words are bolded.

Also, even someone with a boat load of HGP points (especially you of all people) should agree that getting .004-.009cpp is truly shortchanging ones self (bordering on criminal) considering it's rather easy to suck 5-6cpp out of HGP.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 11:19:58 AM
you have a huge amount of points and are looking at december... Thats a huge difference... I am talking about now, so for the amount zithali or halaveli costs right now or use points, I would use cash. points also have a value and he could sell them later on or use them in the future... Even if you get a waterlvilla at the hyatt, its not comparable to the other 2. Do you really want to travel around the world, spend so much money on the trip and then stay at a "schwache" watervilla to save alittle?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
The operative words are bolded.

Also, even someone with a boat load of HGP points (especially you of all people) should agree that getting .004-.009cpp is truly shortchanging ones self (bordering on criminal) considering it's rather easy to suck 5-6cpp out of HGP.
As I already said, if you can get it for $500-$600 then it's a no-brainer.

At $1,000 (the amount it is for when I would go) you are getting over 3cpp even after backing out the $350 upgrade, which well clears my point redemption threshold.

you have a huge amount of points and are looking at december... Thats a huge difference... I am talking about now, so for the amount zithali or halaveli costs right now or use points, I would use cash. points also have a value and he could sell them later on or use them in the future... Even if you get a waterlvilla at the hyatt, its not comparable to the other 2. Do you really want to travel around the world, spend so much money on the trip and then stay at a "schwache" watervilla to save alittle?
When you have mileage balances like mine you don't risk selling unless you're a broker, but I still agree it's only worth using when the value is there (i.e. when the competition is $1,000 not $500).

And I don't think you've read Gary's reports or FT pics if you think the PH MLE OWB is shvach in any way besides not having a silly little pool that you may use for a few minutes.  I don't think saving $6,000 is a little in most people's books.  Maybe in Switzerland that's a little, but that's mortgage payments for a year in CLE!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
I compared pictures of both resorts, compared watervillas and have to say... the park hyatt does  not compare. By the way, the watervillas at the hyatt have been build much before halaveli, you can see that as well.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 11:39:02 AM
I never said for 6k its worth it, but for 500 a night he should not even consider the hyatt. I can only say, once you are there you will use your own pool alot and not only a few minutes, but just the option to be able to jump in whenever you want is amazing. no walk to the main pool, no shlep....
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 12:00:05 PM
I never said for 6k its worth it, but for 500 a night he should not even consider the hyatt.
I've already said that earlier, seems like we're in agreement then :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:04:26 PM
As I already said, if you can get it for $500-$600 then it's a no-brainer.

At $1,000 (the amount it is for when I would go) ...

Didn't know you were actively trying to hit MLE.

How long would you go for? Routing?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 12:10:00 PM
Didn't know you were actively trying to hit MLE.

How long would you go for? Routing?
An OWB (so MLE or BOB) has been a dream of mine as well.  Not actively looking, just speculating.
I find vacations to tropical places are more enjoyable when I see cold weather back home...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:12:27 PM
An OWB (so MLE or BOB) has been a dream of mine as well.  Not actively looking, just speculating.
I find vacations to tropical places are more enjoyable when I see cold weather back home...

I hear, but December--at least in MLE--is rainy season IIRC.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 12:20:19 PM
dec-april is high season april-august is monsoon season, thats the rainy season.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 12:21:41 PM
But dont worry, we went in June and had 2x20 min rain. If you go high season, you would never get such good rates. But you could get 2 days of rain as well. But even when raining its still beautiful, 90 degrees, but you will get wet
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:25:35 PM
dec-april is high season april-august is monsoon season, thats the rainy season.

Oh, weird:

Quote from: Park Hyatt Maldives General Manager
May would indeed be our busy season.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 12:28:18 PM
Seems like February/March are pretty ideal for MLE:

(http://www.southtravels.com/asia/maldives/gifs/rainfall.jpg)
(http://www.southtravels.com/asia/maldives/gifs/temp.jpg)

Also see: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090904121008AAgeZ2T
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 12:31:39 PM
As far as Tahiti, it's the opposite:
(http://www.thetahititraveler.com/general/images/Tahiti_rains.gif)

(http://www.thetahititraveler.com/general/images/Tahiti_temperatures.gif)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:39:13 PM
Hashem Yaazor :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 12:42:03 PM
Hashem Yaazor :)
That's what I thought when I stayed at the S. Regis Princeville on the north shore of Kauai in December...didn't work :P

At any rate here's the Kauai numbers.  I do think it's a lot easier to get there and Kauai's beauty surpasses anywhere else I've ever been and there's a whole lot more to do there. 
No OWBs, but the GH LIH is fantastic and is in dry Poipu.
(http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10185.0;attach=1148;image)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:45:02 PM
That's what I thought when I stayed on the north shore of Kauai in December...didn't work :P

There are no guarantees with this type of thing. One could go in December and be met with a deluge, or go in May and be met with pristine sunshine.

(I'll keep talking to try and convince myself :P)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
There are no guarantees with this type of thing. One could go in December and be met with a deluge, or go in May and be met with pristine sunshine.

(I'll keep talking to try and convince myself :P)
Guarantees, of course not. But Gd did make the odds and it's often (though not always) futile to bet against them.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Guarantees, of course not. But Gd did make the odds and it's often (though not always) futile to bet against them.

Gotta take what Gd is giving me, and right now He is giving my wife 3 weeks of vacation in May :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 12:54:18 PM
I hear ya' though I would do BOB this time of year looking at those charts.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
I hear ya' though I would do BOB this time of year looking at those charts.

I tried ...and I ran into the same problem I'd have if I booked MLE in December:

No points availability (or something egregiously expensive), or OWB for $1000+.

Besides, the flight availability wasn't so great (read: I didn't really want to fly to CDG to fly TN to PPT).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
There are OWB for wayyyyy less than that in BOB.  I even linked to it in this thread.
Have you tried holding a TN seat when they have 1 business seat to see if they open another one within a day or so?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 24, 2012, 02:26:42 PM
Most guys that traveled to the maldives in the rainy season, had a fantastic time and not to much rain. I also thought about this when going in June, but I knew I could not afford a top luxury maldives vacation at high season. I also read on tripadvisor about a few years ago, when it rained 5 days straight in december were people paid alot of money to get there, so nothing is sure in life... So we took our chances and didnt get disapointed at all. It does not help to look at weather forecasts, as the islands are so far apart, that it might rain in Male and be sunny in halaveli.... Yes, we took a chance and b'h had great weather. We had one of the top resorts to ourselfs, maybe 10 other guests, so service was top notch and flights were easy to get.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 03:58:23 PM
There are OWB for wayyyyy less than that in BOB.  I even linked to it in this thread.
Have you tried holding a TN seat when they have 1 business seat to see if they open another one within a day or so?

When I looked at OWB in BOB, I wasn't finding any for less than $800, but perhaps I wasn't looking hard enough.

Anyway, at this point it's too late for this time around.

Once I check off MLE on the bucket list, I'll look towards BOB :)

I hadn't tried the "hold 1, and hope for 1" trick with TN, but I it works well with Thai...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
Anyone know what the odds are of getting kosher means on EY and QR?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 24, 2012, 04:35:02 PM
I went to MLE in July and barely saw the sun. Was still beautiful nonetheless

Anyone know what the odds are of getting kosher means on EY and QR?

Both airlines offer Kosher but I doubt it'll be anything decent. Prob long-life garbage
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 04:37:17 PM
I went to MLE in July and barely saw the sun.

<sigh>

Both airlines offer Kosher but I doubt it'll be anything decent. Prob long-life garbage

<sigh again>

For the equivalent of about $15,000 per ticket, they should hire a kosher chef :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 04:45:57 PM
For the equivalent of about $15,000 per ticket, they should hire a kosher chef :)
Not too many jews are paying $15K for that ticket.
<sigh>
July=BOB. January=MLE. Year-round=LIH.
May as well enjoy paradise as it's meant to be seen.  That's the other beauty of points-no high season surcharges.
/.02

<sigh again>
Suck it up, pay the YQ, and fly BA via LGW if you care about food.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
I'll pway weaally weaaaly hawd  :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 24, 2012, 05:34:40 PM
I usually bring food along in F and they are happy to freeze and reheat. Just dont forget extra foil
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2012, 05:35:43 PM
I usually bring food along in F and they are happy to freeze and reheat. Just dont forget extra foil

Great idea. I'll probably just pick up something on the way to airport and do that.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
YMMV.  I've been rejected before, though most FA's will allow.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 24, 2012, 06:46:44 PM
I usually bring food along in F and they are happy to freeze and reheat. Just dont forget extra foil
+1, beats any airline meal.

And even if not hot meals, sandwiches work just fine...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 11:18:42 AM
Seems like a no-brainer on where to stay...

(http://i.imgur.com/vsbzG.png)


 
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 11:25:51 AM
Is the tax in the Hyatt the buy up to OWB?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
Is the tax in the Hyatt the buy up to OWB?

Yessir.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 11:31:45 AM
Yessir.
Were there other resorts in that price range?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2012, 11:36:15 AM
Seems like a no-brainer on where to stay...

(http://i.imgur.com/vsbzG.png)
Heh.
DD concierge can get a OWB for a fraction of those rates :D
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 25, 2012, 11:38:21 AM
Heh.
DD concierge can get a OWB for a fraction of those rates :D
How much does it cost?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 11:43:21 AM
The above is for 5 night stay. If I choose the Halaveli, I can stay for 6 nights for essentially the same price as 5.

So, that's what we're going to do.

For 6 nights, the breakdown is this:

(http://i.imgur.com/6ciLG.png)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 11:45:03 AM
Were there other resorts in that price range?

Yeah, the Zitahli was close for 5 nights. Didn't check that many more after speaking to a guy who's been down there dozens of times. He said Halaveli is the way to go.

Heh.
DD concierge can get a OWB for a fraction of those rates :D

For 6 nights? You can beat $3600 including all taxes, fees and transfer? In a place as nice and as highly rated as the Halaveli?

Prove it  :D
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 25, 2012, 11:56:02 AM
The above is for 5 night stay. If I choose the Halaveli, I can stay for 6 nights for essentially the same price as 5.

So, that's what we're going to do.

For 6 nights, the breakdown is this:

(http://i.imgur.com/6ciLG.png)
now I like your trip.
/jealous
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2012, 11:57:30 AM
For 6 nights? You can beat $3600 including all taxes, fees and transfer? In a place as nice and as highly rated as the Halaveli?

Prove it  :D

Don't need to prove anything right now.  I'll do it myself in a 5 star hotel in an OWB with a pool for less than half of that and post a TR :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 12:01:17 PM
now I like your trip.
/jealous

Thanks, man! :)

Don't need to prove anything right now.  I'll do it myself in a 5 star hotel in an OWB with a pool for less than half of that and post a TR :D

Looking forward! even if you like rubbing my face in it instead of making a helpful suggestion...

(But, for all those paying attention, that means Dan won't be staying at the Hyatt :P)

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2012, 12:05:16 PM
Looking forward! even if you like rubbing my face in it instead of making a helpful suggestion...
For you I make special exceptions.  Consider it a privilege :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 12:08:54 PM
(But, for all those paying attention, that means Dan won't be staying at the Hyatt :P)
If he gets confirmed OWB with points/ cc nights, itll trump anything else, no?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
If he gets confirmed OWB with points/ cc nights, itll trump anything else, no?

Even if he could do that (which def wouldn't be easy, if even possible), he still won't have an OWB at 5 star resort with a plunge pool (Hyatt doesn't have any rooms like that).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 12:13:59 PM
Even if he could do that (which def wouldn't be easy, if even possible), he still won't have an OWB at 5 star resort with a plunge pool (Hyatt doesn't have any rooms like that).
True. But $3 spent on 3 cc's+transfer fees is pretty hard to beat..
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 12:17:48 PM
True. But $3 spent on 3 cc's+transfer fees is pretty hard to beat..

Unquestionable. But he said

I'll do it myself in a 5 star hotel in an OWB with a pool for less than half of that and post a TR :D

But, in any case, I pushed hard to get a confirmed upgrade w/o the buy-up and hit a brick wall a number of times. Again, I'm sure it's not impossible, but it's gonna be an uphill battle to say the least.

Keep in mind, Gary himself didn't get confirmed beforehand. He had to buy-up. (He did use stay certs though.)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 12:19:39 PM
All true.

I think you're getting a good price, an awesome OWB and youll enjoy it immensely.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 12:21:22 PM
All true.

I think you're getting a good price, an awesome OWB and youll enjoy it immensely.

Thanks for all of your help!

Have you ever been to MLE/BOB? Seems that your situated pretty nicely being an "aussie." :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 12:23:54 PM
Thanks for all of your help!

Have you ever been to MLE/BOB? Seems that your situated pretty nicely being an "aussie." :)
Nope, consensus is that its a bit weird being a "bochur"...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
Nope, consensus is that its a bit weird being a "bochur"...

Fair enough, I was too focused on the first half of the moniker :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 12:32:26 PM
Fair enough, I was too focused on the first half of the moniker :)
But I still want to go sooner rather then later.
Will see...

Also, bit lame to go on a honeymoon to somewhere you've already been, no?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 12:41:00 PM
But I still want to go sooner rather then later.
Will see...

Also, bit lame to go on a honeymoon to somewhere you've already been, no?

Personally, I wouldn't prefer that. Kinda the reason I didn't wanna fly CDG-LAX-PPT-BOB because I just spent a week in CDG a few months ago.

But, if you're looking for an amazing place, the guy who's getting me the deal at the Halaveli, told me the only other place that rivals MLE is the East Coast of Borneo. Look into it :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 25, 2012, 01:05:53 PM
But I still want to go sooner rather then later.
Will see...

Also, bit lame to go on a honeymoon to somewhere you've already been, no?

Do it  the opposite. First go on the honeymoon and then start to look for the wife. Prob very cheap in Thailand
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
Anyone know if I'll be able to get into the Etihad F lounge on arrival in AUH?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 01:25:58 PM
Do it  the opposite. First go on the honeymoon and then start to look for the wife. Prob very cheap in Thailand
Lol!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 25, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
Anyone know if I'll be able to get into the Etihad F lounge on arrival in AUH?

Based on reports from FT, it seems like no
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
Anyone know if I'll be able to get into the Etihad F lounge on arrival in AUH?
Just to look?
They offer chauffeur service to your hotel, right?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 01:40:03 PM
Based on reports from FT, it seems like no

Yeah, after I posted, I went to FT and it seem YMMV. I've emailed Etihad to try and get permission in writing.

Just to look?
They offer chauffeur service to your hotel, right?

Ideally to partake!
I think that's right, yes. Why?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 25, 2012, 03:22:14 PM
I had the same thing. Halaveli had a sale, pay for 4 nights and get 3 nights free. We only went 6 nights. With the time we had for the trip I wanted to spend one night in Dubai. 6 days was plenty, but we would not have minded staying any longer... You will love Halaveli. Did you book it with Richard?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 03:27:16 PM
I had the same thing. Halaveli had a sale, pay for 4 nights and get 3 nights free. We only went 6 nights. With the time we had for the trip I wanted to spend one night in Dubai. 6 days was plenty, but we would not have minded staying any longer... You will love Halaveli. Did you book it with Richard?

Yeah, been working with Richard, and wow he seems to know his stuff.

In two weeks, he's actually headed to the Hilton Iru Fushi for a week and then FS for another week, but he said he loved the Halaveli.

He said the island on which the Hyatt sits is stunning, but its a pain to get there, and the OWBs are not as nice as the Halaveli.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 03:30:20 PM
Yeah, been working with Richard, and wow he seems to know his stuff.

In two weeks, he's actually headed to the Hilton Iru Fushi for a week and then FS for another week, but he said he loved the Halaveli.

He said the island on which the Hyatt sits is stunning, but its a pain to get there, and the OWBs are not as nice as the Halaveli.
Sounds like a pretty good job. Plus comped stays in the nicest hotels in the world...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 03:35:22 PM
Sounds like a pretty good job. Plus comped stays in the nicest hotels in the world...

+2

If I could do it all over again, I'd so something along those lines :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on April 25, 2012, 03:37:38 PM
+2

If I could do it all over again, I'd so something along those lines :)
You sound like youre retired ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on April 25, 2012, 03:38:50 PM
I told you richard is great. He goes every year on a trip to the maldives for free, halevai by me...
He can also get good rates, as he is one of the biggest agents
So the scond dd member goes to halaveli, good times. You might want to check if some of my kosher ice creams are still in the freezer :-)

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on April 25, 2012, 08:06:28 PM
DD concierge can get a OWB for a fraction of those rates :D

I heard they went out of business (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=9494.msg114964#msg114964)... :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
Yichidei segula.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 25, 2012, 09:11:16 PM
Yeah, after I posted, I went to FT and it seem YMMV. I've emailed Etihad to try and get permission in writing.

Just got written confirmation from EY. Hopefully that should help.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 30, 2012, 11:01:22 PM
The MLE-AUH-JFK in F cost 180K

180k each?

Just remembered that it'll actually only cost 170K after this new Citi benefit of getting 10% rebate on redeemed miles up to 10,000.

So 85K each :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 10, 2012, 03:08:13 PM
Just remembered that it'll actually only cost 170K after this new Citi benefit of getting 10% rebate on redeemed miles up to 10,000.

So 85K each :)

Miles posted:

Anyone wanna guess what would happen to those miles if I redeposited my award?  ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 14, 2012, 07:46:46 PM
Off to MLE. Thanks for your help everyone!

Etihad Chaffeur Service = Escalade (pleasantly surprised it wasn't a Lincoln Towncar!)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: myb821 on May 14, 2012, 07:49:31 PM
Off to MLE. Thanks for your help everyone!

Etihad Chaffeur Service = Escalade (pleasantly surprised it wasn't a Lincoln Towncar!)
have fun cant wait for the TR
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Bp on May 14, 2012, 09:22:34 PM
have fin cant wait for the TR
+1
plz include pics if possible
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
Just got off the JFK-AUH leg and am now sitting in EY's F lounge.

Just for now (because I have a massage scheduled in 5 mins):

I have never ever experienced such an amazing flight in my life. To sum it up:

It is the first time that I ever have looked at the “Flight Time Until Arrival” and was genuinely sad to see that the counter was going down, instead of up.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to shout out and I'll do my best to answer 'em.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2012, 01:22:54 PM
It is the first time that I ever have looked at the “Flight Time Until Arrival” and was genuinely sad to see that the counter was going down, instead of up.
Lol, same for CX F.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2012, 02:37:53 PM
Try EWR-SIN, Its kinda the same but wears off a little at around the 14 hour mark... ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2012, 02:56:35 PM
Lol, same for CX F.

Glad I am among good company :P

Try EWR-SIN, Its kinda the same but wears off a little at around the 14 hour mark... ;)

Ha, I was just telling my wife about that route. Based on our experience on EY, I simply cannot fathom it wearing off... ever! :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 23, 2012, 02:12:06 AM
#TripOfALifetime

Sitting in the lounge in Zurich waiting for the last leg: ZRH-JFK.

Words will not be able to describe this trip accurately, but I'll certainly try to write up a TR in the coming days.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: brytch on May 24, 2012, 02:26:28 AM
#TripOfALifetime

Sitting in the lounge in Zurich waiting for the last leg: ZRH-JFK.

Words will not be able to describe this trip accurately, but I'll certainly try to write up a TR in the coming days.

Heading out in a couple of weeks, would like to hear how you managed food wise... Also did you have a long wait before/after flights until transfer? I have a late night departure at 11:30pm with singapore..  Any ideas where I can spend a nice 6 hours until flight?

Also did you have any trouble bringing in meat or any other food items?  Tefilin? Bibles? lol
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on May 24, 2012, 11:22:04 AM
did you speak to the waldorf? The hilton used to serve the same meals i ordered from australia. As its the same chain, maybe they can arrange it for you...

Tefilin and Siddur were no problem by me. Dont take in any wine, every suitcase gets x rayed. Meat they might want to make sure its no pork, so make sure its labeled to be on the safe site.

My wait wasnt long, but that luck. There is nothing really to do there in these hours before your flight. Might be worth taking the ferry and getting a hotelroom in Male to freshen up and sit for a few hours by the pool or just spend some time in the disgusting lounge in MLE writing a trip report

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on May 24, 2012, 11:27:21 AM
Tefilin and Siddur were no problem by me. Dont take in any wine, every suitcase gets x rayed. Meat they might want to make sure its no pork, so make sure its labeled to be on the safe site.

What did you do for Kiddush?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2012, 11:28:12 AM
Grape Juice I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on May 24, 2012, 11:29:16 AM
What did you do for Kiddush?
Grape juice, Challah?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2012, 11:32:01 AM
We took grape juice and challah rolls. Worked splendidly. Also brought food in this (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003KU77E4/?tag=cl03f-20).

Worked out wonderfully.

Also, no problem with tallis/tefillin/siddur. They x-rayed ours bags (that had meat in them) but were apparently unfazed.

@OP -- where is your 6 hour layover?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on May 24, 2012, 11:34:48 AM
I used grape juice. But I didnt bring it in, as I had it added to my grocery order from the grocery store in australia. As it went straight to the resort I was allowed to order wines and had some nice israeli wines by my meal

They are very makpid on alcohol, so if you bring in grape juice they will most probably open the suitcase after seeing liquid. I wanted to avoid that, with all my kosher food and jewish stuff. at the end of the day its still a muslim country

Maybe AJK can chip in what he did
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on May 24, 2012, 11:37:39 AM
We took grape juice and challah rolls. Worked splendidly. Also brought food in this (http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Bear-Coolers-Pack-Cooler/dp/B003KU77E4).

Worked out wonderfully.

Also, no problem with tallis/tefillin/siddur. They x-rayed ours bags (that had meat in them) but were apparently unfazed.

@OP -- where is your 6 hour layover?

Trip report? :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: mochada on May 24, 2012, 11:41:48 AM
Trip report? :P

Give him a day to try to relive his flights and vacation- then maybe he will consider reporting to us ;-)...until then WE will all be waiting.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on May 24, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
as long as he is faster then i was
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2012, 11:47:55 AM
Trip report? :P

Give him a day to try to relive ,and more importantly recover from, his flights and vacation

+1, and ftfy :P

as long as he is faster then i was

 ;D, I intend to be.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on May 24, 2012, 11:49:15 AM
We took grape juice and challah rolls. Worked splendidly. Also brought food in this (http://www.amazon.com/Polar-Bear-Coolers-Pack-Cooler/dp/B003KU77E4).



@OP -- where is your 6 hour layover?


His flight is from MLE very late and the last seaplanes land at MLE at about 1630, so he will have a nice long layover at MLE airport.

By the way, even the lounge will not be a option as SQ only opens check in  max 3 hours before and the lounge is after passport control. Dont know what do tell you as waiting around before check in for a few hours will be a massiv pain.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: mochada on May 24, 2012, 11:53:18 AM
+1, and ftfy :P

 ;D, I intend to be.

haha! or dream about?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Also, no problem with tallis/tefillin/siddur. They x-rayed ours bags (that had meat in them) but were apparently unfazed.
Is meat not allowed?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2012, 11:54:13 AM
After rereading his post, I interpret his question to mean he has an SQ MLE-SIN flight at 11:30 PM.

I don't know what is involved in the transfer to the Waldorf, but our seaplane dropped us off at MLE at about 6:15 or so for a 7:30 PM MLE-DOH flight which was perfect.

Also, if the Waldorf has a lounge at MLE (like the Halaveli does), that's not a bad place to spend the time.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2012, 11:55:01 AM
Is meat not allowed?

Pork isn't. And they might get bothered if it doesn't explicitly say "all beef" or the like.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on May 24, 2012, 11:56:21 AM
Pork isn't. And they might get bothered if it doesn't explicitly say "all beef" or the like.

I was going to kid and say: Halal only :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2012, 11:56:26 AM
Pork isn't. And they might get bothered if it doesn't explicitly say "all beef" or the like.
If it's cooked how will they know?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
If it's cooked how will they know?

They won't. They'll just junk it, most likely.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2012, 11:59:46 AM
They won't. They'll just junk it, most likely.
And that didn't worry you?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2012, 12:01:24 PM
And that didn't worry you?

I shoulda been clearer. We didn't bring any cooked food -- We brought an extra-long spicy salami, hot dogs, deli, etc. (all still in packages)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2012, 12:04:10 PM
I shoulda been clearer. We didn't bring any cooked food -- We brought an extra-long spicy salami, hot dogs, deli, etc. (all still in packages)
Sounds like a guys trip  ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2012, 12:05:33 PM
Sounds like a guys trip  ;)

Ha, my wife is a trooper, what can I say. (Likes roller coasters, too, can you believe the luck I have?  ;) )
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 24, 2012, 12:26:42 PM
We brought lots of meat etc. to MLE and had no issues

I had a friend that they took grape juice away from so YMMV
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2012, 12:27:38 PM
We brought lots of meat etc. to MLE and had no issues

I had a friend that they took grape juice away from so YMMV
Cooked meat?
Do Muslims not drink grape juice?
Was the bottle properly labeled?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Mocha on May 24, 2012, 12:29:26 PM
Ha, my wife is a trooper, what can I say. (Likes roller coasters, too, can you believe the luck I have?  ;) )
Stop waisting time and get to that TR! Were all eagerly waiting!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 24, 2012, 12:32:45 PM
Cooked meat?
Do Muslims not drink grape juice?
Was the bottle properly labeled?

Cooked meat and Coldcuts.
No, but even though it was labeled as grape juice they insisted it was not allowed.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: brytch on May 24, 2012, 03:27:09 PM
did you speak to the waldorf? The hilton used to serve the same meals i ordered from australia. As its the same chain, maybe they can arrange it for you...

Tefilin and Siddur were no problem by me. Dont take in any wine, every suitcase gets x rayed. Meat they might want to make sure its no pork, so make sure its labeled to be on the safe site.

My wait wasnt long, but that luck. There is nothing really to do there in these hours before your flight. Might be worth taking the ferry and getting a hotelroom in Male to freshen up and sit for a few hours by the pool or just spend some time in the disgusting  in MLE writing a trip report

I was debating if I should contact them about food. but if you're saying they may be able to arrange it themselves, in that case I might try e-mailing them. Was it the Hilton Iru Fushi or the Conrad Rangali which had kosher food?

As far as flights I am quite happy with my schedule now. going to the Waldorf I will take a 80 minute Seaplane, leaves 2.5 hours after I arrive in MLE, but the Waldorf has a great lounge, so shouldn't be too bad.

As far as return, I will take a Boat+Plane, that way I can stay at resort until 7pm and still make it for an 11.30pm flight back.

Is it worth trying to order wine through them? They charge such a premium on wines, I'm debating if it's worth it. 

Also wasn't sure if to mention kosher before arrival, as it seems they make most their money on food and beverage, so telling them in advance I'm coming on points and can't eat in your restaurant might decrease chances of upgrade etc...


After rereading his post, I interpret his question to mean he has an SQ MLE-SIN flight at 11:30 PM.

I don't know what is involved in the transfer to the Waldorf, but our seaplane dropped us off at MLE at about 6:15 or so for a 7:30 PM MLE-DOH flight which was perfect.

Also, if the Waldorf has a lounge at MLE (like the Halaveli does), that's not a bad place to spend the time.

http://www.waldorfastoriamaldives.com/images/uploads/2011_03_Hilton_Resorts_New_Lounge.pdf
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 07:49:04 AM
http://reethirah.oneandonlyresorts.com/specialoffers/save30.aspx?CID=em_rrhflash1_May12

Not a bad deal at possible the nicest resort in the Maldives....

This one works for 20% Off almost all year round when using a Citi Card:

http://reethirah.oneandonlyresorts.com/specialoffers/citibankspecial.aspx
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2012, 10:13:58 AM
http://reethirah.oneandonlyresorts.com/specialoffers/save30.aspx?CID=em_rrhflash1_May12

Not a bad deal at possible the nicest resort in the Maldives....

This one works for 20% Off almost all year round when using a Citi Card:

http://reethirah.oneandonlyresorts.com/specialoffers/citibankspecial.aspx
For those curious, seems to be $1,166+++ per night for a water villa with no pool and $3,801+++ per night with a pool for dates in July and August.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on May 30, 2012, 10:21:37 AM
For those curious, seems to be $1,166+++ per night for a water villa.

Yeah, that's what I'm seeing, too. A bit rich for my blood, even if it's possibly one of the nicest in MLE.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 10:26:07 AM
Dates in June for as low as $600
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2012, 10:39:04 AM
Dates in June for as low as $600
Didn't check June, but without a pool what makes it so great?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 10:42:23 AM
Didn't check June, but without a pool what makes it so great?

With a pool is about $800.

Widely considered to be the nicest resort in the Maldives.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2012, 10:44:01 AM
With a pool is about $800.

Widely considered to be the nicest resort in the Maldives.
OWB with pool for $800?
Dates?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 10:44:19 AM
And along with the Park Hyatt (anyone notice that?) the Spa accepts SpaFinder Gift Certificates :)

http://www.spafinder.com/all-spas/Asia_Maldives/N=0+3621
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 10:47:37 AM
Need to go back and search. I believe it was weekends in June.

My guess is that you can email the GM and negotiate a free upgrade. PM me if you need his email address
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 08:58:26 PM
A pretty well connected Travel Agent who books a lot of 5 Star properties in the Maldives and Bora Bora told me that if you are traveling during low season, it is quite acceptable to find the lowest rate online and then ask them for a nice upgrade/free transfers etc. He said some will even negotiate lower rates.

Obviously, don't let them know in the beginning that you plan on spending almost no $$ while at the resort
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on May 30, 2012, 09:02:55 PM
A pretty well connected Travel Agent who books a lot of 5 Star properties in the Maldives and Bora Bora told me that if you are traveling during low season, it is quite acceptable to find the lowest rate online and then ask them for a nice upgrade/free transfers etc. He said some will even negotiate lower rates.

Obviously, don't let them know in the beginning that you plan on spending almost no $$ while at the resort
Do they do C&P's?  ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 09:04:09 PM
Do they do C&P's?  ;)

Yes. The Le Meridien Dead Sea now has OWB's. Just ask them about it
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Devorah on May 30, 2012, 09:14:01 PM
Yes. The Le Meridien Dead Sea now has OWB's. Just ask them about it
i literally lol'ed!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on May 30, 2012, 09:26:09 PM
Yes. The Le Meridien Dead Sea now has OWB's. Just ask them about it
Lol!
Now the question is if they have a pool? ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on June 02, 2012, 10:25:02 PM
Off to MLE. Thanks for your help everyone!

Etihad Chaffeur Service = Escalade (pleasantly surprised it wasn't a Lincoln Towncar!)

How was the KSML on EY from JFK-AUH? Also, any idea how late one can check in for F w/o luggage?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 03, 2012, 09:18:45 AM
How was the KSML on EY from JFK-AUH? Also, any idea how late one can check in for F w/o luggage?
Check in closes 60 before departure for all classes.

Online check in is available until 2 hours prior to departure.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on June 03, 2012, 02:25:09 PM
How was the KSML on EY from JFK-AUH?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 03, 2012, 08:56:31 PM
How was the KSML on EY from JFK-AUH?

We didn't actually focus on the KSML because we took your suggestion of asking them to heat up the chinese food we brought. Was amazing.

But it definitely wasn't bad, all things considered. (Not pictured, unfortunately: hot meal of chicken, vegetables, and scalloped potatoes.)

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on June 03, 2012, 09:01:39 PM
We didn't actually focus on the KSML because we took your suggestion of asking them to heat up the chinese food we brought. Was amazing.

But it definitely wasn't bad, all things considered. (Not pictured, unfortunately: hot meal of chicken, vegetables, and scalloped potatoes.)



Wow. They had that bottle of wine for you onboard?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 03, 2012, 09:03:45 PM
Wow. They had that bottle of wine for you onboard?

Yeah, was great. One for me and one for my wife.

It's almost comical: a glass of Kosher wine on the national airline of the UAE.  :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on June 03, 2012, 09:06:03 PM
Yeah, was great. One for me and one for my wife.

It's almost comical: a glass of Kosher wine on the national airline of the UAE.  :D

I'm quite impressed.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on June 04, 2012, 02:20:42 AM
hmm. now im upset. they didnt have one for me auh-mel...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 04, 2012, 02:49:52 AM
We didn't actually focus on the KSML because we took your suggestion of asking them to heat up the chinese food we brought. Was amazing.

What was the idea? Bringing take out Chinese? What did you do about double wrapping? Was it your own or do restaurants offer this? Your disposable cutlery?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on June 04, 2012, 07:55:14 AM
What was the idea? Bringing take out Chinese? What did you do about double wrapping? Was it your own or do restaurants offer this? Your disposable cutlery?

Deep Freeze your favorite chinese meal and double wrap it.

Re-heats nicely in the airplane oven. You can use the cutlery that comes with your KSML
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on June 04, 2012, 08:35:37 AM
]You can use the cutlery that comes with your KSML
when do you need a knife with chinese?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2012, 10:05:07 AM
Deep Freeze your favorite chinese meal and double wrap it.

Re-heats nicely in the airplane oven. You can use the cutlery that comes with your KSML

Actually, we just picked up on our way to the airport, asking the restaurant to ensure that it could be put in the oven, and then once on the plane we double wrapped it with foil that the crew gave us.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on June 04, 2012, 10:17:50 AM
tripreport?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2012, 10:22:08 AM
tripreport?

I started it, now I gotta just find time to finish it.

I'm actually thinking of hosting it elsewhere (and linking to it) so I can intersperse it with pictures with less headache than what would be required to do that here.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2012, 01:11:16 PM
Just FYI: I have had F crews refuse to heat up our meals and other times when they have no foil.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
I started it, now I gotta just find time to finish it.

I'm actually thinking of hosting it elsewhere (and linking to it) so I can intersperse it with pictures with less headache than what would be required to do that here.
Just upload all the pictures to any picture hosting site and use the IMG tag with the URL to post the full size pic in your TR here.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2012, 01:12:46 PM
Just FYI: I have had F crews refuse to heat up our meals and other times when they have no foil.

Yeah, we took the risk, and then somewhat mitigated it by bringing our own foil just in case.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on June 04, 2012, 01:21:57 PM
Maybe with a us airline they would refuse it, as service is bad anyway and they dont know what it means. Most airlines treat the client as a king in f and do anything to please him. I would be surprised, if ba, lh, lx... would refuse such a request...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2012, 01:38:45 PM
Maybe with a us airline they would refuse it, as service is bad anyway and they dont know what it means. Most airlines treat the client as a king in f and do anything to please him. I would be surprised, if ba, lh, lx... would refuse such a request...
Actually we were refused in CX F, HKG-YYZ.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on June 04, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
I especially didnt write the asian carriers, as I never flew them. They probably have a rule, that no outside food is allowed to be heated up and are scared to loose the jobs, while the european flight crew has more free room to deal with F clients. Like on my last flight FRA-TLV in F they said feel free to use Skype, even through official policy does not allow it...She said in F I can close a eye...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on June 04, 2012, 03:14:34 PM
. Like on my last flight FRA-TLV in F they said feel free to use Skype, even through official policy does not allow it...She said in F I can close a eye...

I'm sure everyone else in F enjoyed
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on June 04, 2012, 06:06:16 PM
If you talk in a normal voice, the aircraft noise drowns the noise... Thats why she said in f they dont mind, but business and economy were people sit closer to eachother, it will disturb.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: brytch on June 06, 2012, 01:15:56 PM
Heading out on Sunday.. Any tips on things you wished you had brought along? or things I shouldn't forget?? Any good food ideas?

Any help greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 06, 2012, 01:24:24 PM
Suncreen and aloe. Definitely strongest sun we've experienced.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
Introduction:

Ever since I was a boy, I have been utterly amazed at the picturesque and breathtaking beauty of Bora Bora (BOB) and the Maldives (MLE). The crystal clear water, the blindingly white sand, and the deep blue skies, has made visiting one of these exotic locales a “bucket list” item for me for as long as I can remember. Even more than that, though, I didn’t want to fly 18+ hours only to be met on arrival with a regular ol’ hotel room. Call it spoiled, call it fulfillment of an adolescent dream, but what I desperately wanted was an over-water villa/bungalow (OWV/OWB)—what I am fully convinced is G-d’s oasis of paradise on earth. It should come as no surprise, therefore, that when an opportunity to visit the Maldives presented itself, my wife and I leapt at the chance.

Our itinerary:

May 14, Etihad Airways, EY 100, JFK-AUH, 22:40-19:50 +1 in First (Flight time of 13:10)
Connect time in Abu Dhabi of 13:30
May 16, Etihad Airways, EY 278, AUH-MLE, 09:20-14:40 in Business (Flight time of 4:20)

—Constance Halaveli Resort for six nights—

May 22, Qatar Airways, QR 383, MLE-DOH, 19:30-20:05 in Business (Flight time of 4:35)
Connect time in Doha, Qatar of 3:15
May 23, Qatar Airways, QR 61, DOH-ZRH, 01:05-06:30 in Business (Flight time of 6:25)
Connect time in Zurich, Switzerland of 3:20
May 23, Swiss Airlines, LX 16, ZRH-JFK, 09:50-12:35 in Business (Flight time of 8:45)

Cost for Flights:

For the flights there, we each used 90,000 American Airlines miles, for a total of 180K AA. Cash price would have been $30,067.00. Thus our redemption value was an incredible 16.7 cpm. (Actually, due to a recent benefit change to the Citi American Airlines card, I got a 10,000 mile rebate on the above redemption, so it only cost me a total of 170K AA, or 17.7 cpm.)

For the flights home, we each used 60,000 United Airlines miles, for a total of 120K UA. Cash price would have been $11,678.60. Thus our redemption value was a healthy 9.7 cpm.

Cost for Hotel:

Though we had more than enough Hyatt Gold Passport (HGP) points and HGP free night certificates to stay at the Park Hyatt Maldives (PHM), we opted instead to go out of pocket for this (once in a lifetime?) trip, and <gasp> stay at a non-points hotel. Why would do such a ridiculous thing? Well, it all comes back to “G-d’s oasis of paradise,” the OWB. Unfortunately, PHM does not allow guests to book directly into an OWB using points. Therefore, guests who want to stay in an OWB at the PHM have two options:


The (very big) problem with the former option is that it isn’t confirmed. Meaning, theoretically, we could spend 30+ hours in transit, constantly envisioning how wonderful it will be when we finally get to our OWB, only to be told by the general manager at check-in that, for one reason or another, he will not be able to upgrade us. It was just not something I was going to leave to chance on a trip like this.

The problem with the latter option, though it is confirmed, is that we’d have to pay an additional $420 a night for the privilege. Yes, at first blush $420 a night might seem relatively cheap to secure an OWB in the Maldives (especially considering the PHM and many other resorts charge $1,000+ per night). However, I was told about a resort—the Constance Halaveli—that (after special discounts) only charged $463 for an OWB with a private plunge pool (something the PHM does not offer). 

So, for an OWB at the PHM, we’d be shelling out 22K HGP + $420 per night, or for an OWB with a plunge pool at the Constance Halaveli we could simply pay $463/night outright. In other words, was it worth 22,000 HGP to save $43?

Well, considering that’s a redemption rate of 0.002 cpp (yes, that’s two one-thousandths of a penny), it would be borderline criminal. That’s so especially in light of the fact that last November I redeemed 22,000 HGP for a deluxe room at the Park Hyatt Paris that would have otherwise cost $972, a redemption rate of 4.4 cpp.)

So, to us it was an absolute no brainer and we booked the Constance Halaveli.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 03:37:31 PM
Forgot to mention:

The taxes for the outbound were $2.50 per ticket for a total of $5.00.

The taxes for the inbound were $56.10 per ticket for a total of $112.20.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on June 10, 2012, 03:54:13 PM
nice report

what was the special discount at the constance?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 03:57:22 PM
Stay 5 nights, get 6 + using a great TA.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 10, 2012, 04:42:34 PM
AJK, nice CPM's values. Where are those prices from?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 04:56:13 PM
AJK, nice CPM's values. Where are those prices from?

Kayak/Orbitz/United. Only place I could get 'em.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 10, 2012, 05:09:54 PM
You mentioned a great price for the OWB. Is that a promo or the standard rates for the hotel? In addition was the OWB out of this world?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
You mentioned a great price for the OWB. Is that a promo or the standard rates for the hotel? In addition was the OWB out of this world?

Promo.

Stay tuned for the rest of the TR :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 10, 2012, 05:17:13 PM


Stay tuned for the rest of the TR :)
are you trying to build up curiosity by posting it piece by piece?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
are you trying to build up curiosity by posting it piece by piece?

Ha, I'm not writing episodes of 24.

I'm posting them as I write 'em.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 10, 2012, 05:44:13 PM
Kayak/Orbitz/United. Only place I could get 'em.
You do know that if you actually were to buy the tickets you flew, you wouldnt pay nearly that much?

Though it does look cool to say that you got $60K tix for next to nothing.

Almost like Dans $250K RTW tix... ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 10, 2012, 05:48:02 PM
You do know that if you actually were to buy the tickets you flew, you wouldnt pay nearly that much?

Though it does look cool to say that you got $60K tix for next to nothing.

Almost like Dans $250K RTW tix... ;)
Maskim! I always say that to everyone when I fly that according to kayak I would have paid 20k a ticket.. although I know that is not really accurate as I would have figured out a cheaper way to get those tickets.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 05:50:02 PM
You do know that if you actually were to buy the tickets you flew, you wouldnt pay nearly that much?

I'm not sure why you say that...

You can go--right now--on Kayak or Orbitz or even Etihad itself and you'll see that a OW from JFK-AUH in F is $13K+, not including AUH-MLE.

EDIT: The pic.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 10, 2012, 06:41:30 PM
I'm not sure why you say that...

You can go--right now--on Kayak or Orbitz or even Etihad itself and you'll see that a OW from JFK-AUH in F is $13K+, not including AUH-MLE.

EDIT: The pic.
If you piece together multiple one ways, you obviously get a crazy high price.
Get a quote from a TA for a RT and it will be less.

You can go RTW in SQ Suites for less then the prices you posted...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 08:01:08 PM
If you piece together multiple one ways, you obviously get a crazy high price.
Get a quote from a TA for a RT and it will be less.

You can go RTW in SQ Suites for less then the prices you posted...

...except that's not piecing together anything.

That's a simple OW from JFK-AUH.

$13K+.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 10, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
...except that's not piecing together anything.

That's a simple OW from JFK-AUH.

$13K+.
I was referring to your total price of $41K+.

And I dont think anyone ever buys a international F class OW ticket if they know the first thing about airline tix...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 08:10:11 PM
I was referring to your total price of $41K+.

And I dont think anyone ever buys a international F class OW ticket if they know the first thing about airline tix...

Perhaps not, but 1) these are the flights I took, and if I wanted to buy them, this is how much it'd cost me (I even called up Etihad to confirm), and 2) I didn't just mash up a bunch of OWs with the United miles, they said I could get them or 120K OR pay $12K.

Perhaps if I was paying and could have bought the EY F ticket RT it woulda been cheaper, I guess you're right about that, but it's not what I did.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 10, 2012, 08:16:46 PM
Perhaps not, but 1) these are the flights I took, and if I wanted to buy them, this is how much it'd cost me (I even called up Etihad to confirm), and 2) I didn't just mash up a bunch of OWs with the United miles, they said I could get them or 120K OR pay $12K.

Perhaps if I was paying and could have bought the EY F ticket RT it woulda been cheaper, I guess you're right about that, but it's not what I did.
Not saying your wrong, for the flights you took, that's what it would cost.

But to say that's the true value of the trip IMO is just a little bit of fantasizing.

As I said
Though it does look cool to say that you got $60K tix for next to nothing.
;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 08:24:40 PM
True value is a funny thing. It's idiosyncratic, it's amorphous, and it's relative.

Is it what I could have gotten these exact tickets for on the market? ($41K)
Is it what I could have gotten EY F for RT? ($30K)
Is it what a reasonable person would have paid for EY F? ($??)
Is it what I personally would have paid for these tickets? (<$5K for sure)

It's open to various approaches, so I just performed the calculations I believe most people do when calculating these things. Is there a better, more consistent way?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: brytch on June 10, 2012, 10:04:38 PM
how was your meal on Qatar?

There was a mess-up and only my wife has kosher meals. :-(

we're leaving in half an hour. for some reason I don't think I'll be missing much...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2012, 10:07:13 PM
Actually our meals on QR were quite tasty, both from MLE and DOH...

Sorry they messed yours up. Safe flight!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on June 11, 2012, 07:39:03 AM
Stay 5 nights, get 6 + using a great TA.
can you elaborate?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 11, 2012, 07:42:22 AM
can you elaborate?
+1
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 11, 2012, 08:02:08 AM
can you elaborate?

In addition to using a "Stay 5 nights, get the 6th night free" promo, I used a great travel agent who was able to get me a deal.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 11, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
I used a great travel agent who was able to get me a deal.
can you elaborate?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 11, 2012, 08:14:36 AM
Not sure what more you want. All the details are in this thread.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 11, 2012, 12:12:20 PM
Not sure what more you want. All the details are in this thread.
Which TA?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on June 11, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
Not sure what more you want. All the details are in this thread.
yup, but i dont really want to go through 26 pages. would you be able to share where you found the promo? hotel website?
Title: Re: Maldives Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 11, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Next installment of TR here (http://bit.ly/N6lrfg).

(Starts on page 2, and covers EY F, JFK-AUH.)

Hope you enjoy.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 11, 2012, 11:11:33 PM
http://www.purelymaldives.co.uk/

He is really good and was very friendly, he was at most resorts already, knows them well
Title: Re: Re: Maldives Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2012, 11:47:15 PM
Awesome!
Your new friend reminds me of a guy I met in CX F...good stuff!
Title: Re: Re: Maldives Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 11, 2012, 11:54:17 PM
Awesome!
Your new friend reminds me of a guy I met in CX F...good stuff!

I'd love to hear details.

As it turns out, we're going to grab drinks next time he's back in NYC. Never hurts to keep connections like that, especially so because he's such a nice guy.
Title: Re: Maldives Master Thread
Post by: momo on June 11, 2012, 11:54:47 PM
awesome! keep it coming
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2012, 11:55:56 PM
I'd love to hear details.

As it turns out, we're going to grab drinks next time he's back in NYC. Never hurts to keep connections like that, especially so because he's such a nice guy.
+1,000

Mine is less interesting than yours, so don't hold your breath for the HKG TR I'll stick it in.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on June 11, 2012, 11:59:24 PM
Awesome. Awaiting the next installment...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2012, 07:21:01 AM
If buying up to OWB is not in the budget, using HH points, Conrad Maldives or Hilton Seychelles?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 09:42:32 AM
If buying up to OWB is not in the budget, using HH points, Conrad Maldives or Hilton Seychelles?
Neither, save something special for the honeymoon :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
Neither, save something special for the honeymoon :P
Meh, ill have plenty more by then.

Sucks that I miss WA MLE by a couple of days...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 28, 2012, 09:46:10 AM
Meh, ill have plenty more by then.

Sucks that I miss WA MLE by a couple of days...

They won't honor reservations made now for after July (iirc) ?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2012, 09:47:55 AM
They won't honor reservations made now for after July (iirc) ?
You cant book for after July.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 09:54:05 AM
Meh, ill have plenty more by then.
Perhaps, but I guess I just don't see the point of BOB/MLE by yourself.
At least in LIH you can do tons of activities or something crazy like hiking and camping along the stunning Kalalau Trail which you will likely never find a woman to do with you.

But an OWB by yourself?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 28, 2012, 09:54:55 AM
Perhaps, but I guess I just don't see the point of BOB/MLE by yourself.
At least in LIH you can do tons of activities or something crazy like hiking and camping along the stunning Kalalau Trail which you will likely never find a woman to do with you.

But an OWB by yourself?

Gotta agree. Too secluded for a solo trip. Would def save for the "glory days" :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2012, 09:57:44 AM
Not going by myself  :D

But maybe ill wait it out anyway.

Not really loving other places in Asia so kinda just drifted to the prettiest places.

Guess I should read the Hawaii Revealed books...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 10:04:33 AM
Guess I should read the Hawaii Revealed books...
They read like suspense novels, I only with the author would write them for other cities in the world.

I'd be more jealous of someone doing the entire Kalalau trail than just about anything right now besides going to outer space.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2012, 10:16:11 AM
They read like suspense novels, I only with the author would write them for other cities in the world.

I'd be more jealous of someone doing the entire Kalalau trail than just about anything right now besides going to outer space.

So which book do I start with?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 10:17:10 AM
So which book do I start with?
Kauai (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0981461085/?tag=cl03f-20)>Maui>Hawaii>Oahu.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2012, 10:19:14 AM
Kauai (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0981461085/?tag=cl03f-20)>Maui>Hawaii>Oahu.
Library should have it, no? ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 10:21:22 AM
Library should have it, no? ;)
My local system doesn't carry it, but they were able to order it for me but that took a couple weeks.
Just depends on your time constraints.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 28, 2012, 10:37:48 AM
OK, im convinced. Just put it on order at the local library :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2012, 12:30:05 PM
They read like suspense novels, I only with the author would write them for other cities in the world.

I'd be more jealous of someone doing the entire Kalalau trail than just about anything right now besides going to outer space.

Can the whole trail be done in a (summers) day?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 12:36:44 PM
Can the whole trail be done in a (summers) day?
Definitely not, it's a multi-day trip and requires a camping permit.
Minimum would be 1 night camping.
The summer is the ideal time for it.
http://www.kalalautrail.com/

The book has a whole section devoted to it that will make you wanna do it, though I can't imagine when I'll have the chance.  The Waimea grand loop trail is probably as close as I'll get.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on June 28, 2012, 12:50:26 PM
At least in LIH you can do tons of activities or something crazy like hiking and camping along the stunning Kalalau Trail which you will likely never find a woman to do with you.

What makes you say that?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 12:53:09 PM
What makes you say that?
I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 28, 2012, 12:54:26 PM
I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.

Gotta give a shoutout to my wife on that one... She'd def be in.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 12:55:17 PM
Gotta give a shoutout to my wife on that one... She'd def be in.
5%er
:D

Also obviously doing such a hike with young children would be impossible.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 28, 2012, 12:55:43 PM
5%er
:D

<chuckles>
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 28, 2012, 12:56:44 PM
I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.
I think the number is a lot lower. Btw there are also Jewish Men who wouldn't consider it  ;)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on June 28, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
I'd wager that at least 95% of married jewish women wouldn't even consider going on a multi-day strenuous hike with primitive camping.
CMIIW folks.

A 'dished-out friend of mine went with his wife on a honeymoon (6-8 months after their wedding) to the Grand Canyon, they slept in a tent for a week...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 12:58:44 PM
From the fact that hundreds of frum people have "discovered" LIH via DD and not one has ever done the Kalalau Trail AFAIK I'll stand by my guestimate.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 12:59:40 PM
A 'dished-out friend of mine went with his wife on a honeymoon (6-8 months after their wedding) to the Grand Canyon, they slept in a tent for a week...
Camping in place is one thing, but doing it while doing a very strenuous hike is another.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on June 28, 2012, 01:01:31 PM
From the fact that hundreds of frum people have "discovered" LIH via DD and not one has ever done the Kalalau Trail AFAIK I'll stand by my guestimate.

How many of those hundreds knew what your saying about the KT? How many even knew it existed? (I didn't until you mentioned it in this thread).

What does a nice trip to Hawaii cost (in points when possible) all-inclusive?

Camping in place is one thing, but doing it while doing a very strenuous hike is another.

How strenuous? Do you think I'm fit enough?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 01:08:49 PM
It's in my guide to each island that I used to give to my concierge clients, and mentioned in passing here:
Free stuff on LIH:
-Check out my Kauai trip report:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6088
-Get a convertible! Just breathing in the incredibly fresh air of Kauai  and being surrounded by the greenery, mountains, and ocean are my biggest pleasures on Kauai.
-You can spend days hiking in beautiful Waimea Canyon.
-The most famous hike in Hawaii is the Kalalau trail where you can hike the Na Pali coastline.
-Find a private stretch of beach out by Polihale.
-Check out the accessible waterfalls like Wailua and Opaeka (most other Kauai waterfalls require hikes/helicopter)
Take the driving tour of Kauai as laid out in Kauai Revealed (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0981461018?ie=UTF8&tag=pp044-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0981461018) It would be a shame to go to any Hawaiian island without the appropriate "revealed" book for each island.  This is not like any other guidebook you've ever read.
-If you're at the Grand Hyatt Kauai take advantage of all of their free activities, like learning how to Scuba, etc.
-Snorkel with the amazing fish, whales, huge green sea turtles, and monk seals!
-There's a nice blowhole to see, but not as impressive as the one on Maui.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 01:12:48 PM
More Kalalau discussion:
I want to hike the Kalalau trail but the 50+ year olds in my party wouldn't enjoy that too much. Is it worth doing only the first mile or so ?  Also, how hard is the trail to follow?   (The only hikes I've ever done have either been with tours or friends who knew what they were doing! )
We were there a month ago. Unfortunately a lot of the trail was washed out by the recent heavy (even by Kauai standards) rain. In fact the road at the northern part of the island just to get to the trail was flooded. Perhaps it will be more accessible during the dryer summer months.
When I was there, most of the trail was under construction so we could only do the first couple of miles. My wife and I headed up a bit before sundown and watched one of the most beautiful sunsets of our lives (about a mile or two in). The tricky part is trying to get down a pretty tricky trail when it's getting darker and darker (Bring flashlights!) I'll try to post a picture if I have a chance.
YD: post the pic!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2012, 01:15:54 PM
This is from an old edition of the guidebook, but FWIW:
(http://www.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Scan_Pic0019a.jpg)
(http://www.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Scan_Pic0020a.jpg)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on June 29, 2012, 02:17:27 AM
From Australia, much easier to get to Seychelles in premium cabin and last chance to fly QR at a decent rate.

Hmmm...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: chuchem on June 29, 2012, 08:13:26 AM
AJK, we are still waiting for the rest!!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 29, 2012, 08:46:29 AM
From Australia, much easier to get to Seychelles in premium cabin and last chance to fly QR at a decent rate.

Hmmm...
What are u worried about, US can book them soon :D

Its a bit odd, since Qatar can book US now.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on June 29, 2012, 10:29:04 AM
AJK, we are still waiting for the rest!!

Hey, hey, look who's back. :)

Been super busy at work, but its on my to do list
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: andrew on July 04, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
Just realized my passport expires within 3 months. Is that going to be an issue?

Also, just read this on the interwebs:

"Most Arab or Middle Eastern countries will refuse entry to you if you have an Israeli stamp in your passport. Apply for a new one if this is the case. Gregeris advises: “Get a second passport and use one to travel to Arab countries and one to Israel. Remember however that second passports are valid only for two years.""

Need I be concerned?
what did you do to arrange this?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 04, 2012, 05:55:59 PM
Which issue are you referring to?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 12:36:59 PM
Has anyone gone yet to Seychelles?

As I mentioned on the Maldives master thread, I'm looking into going next month, but am seeing no HH availability, and have made a hold at the Sheraton there using C&P. However, reading about the HH properties down at Seychelles, and their description of the jungle makes it look like a more well-rounded vacation.
Granted it cost more miles from Israel to Seychelles than to MLE, but perhaps it's worth it.

Thoughts? Also, any advice on getting HH to open up availability if the website isn't showing anything?

I'm also holding out hope that the upcoming PointsBreaks will contain something faboulous in a similar location. Please pray...

EDIT: Has anyone ever used the RCI timeshares in any of these locations? Does anyone here under the age of 50 know what RCI is?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 12:54:55 PM
Though I haven't been to SEZ, I can't imagine it can rival the beauty of MLE, especially in an OWB (which is truly the only way to go).

I'd hold out for MLE personally.

Then again, there aren't any jungles in MLE, so it'd depend on what you're going for.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 01:13:07 PM
Though I haven't been to SEZ, I can't imagine it can rival the beauty of MLE, especially in an OWB (which is truly the only way to go).

I'd hold out for MLE personally.

Then again, there aren't any jungles in MLE, so it'd depend on what you're going for.

Agreed. However, I can't/won't shell out the full money for an OWB, and would like to use points to book at an HH. I would be willing any of their 3 resorts there (Conrad, Waldorf, Hilton), but just didn't see anything.

Anyone have any thoughts on the Sheraton? Is it a waste?

I've read the first 70% of the thread and will try to finish it later. I'm just trying to keep my options open since it's only a month away.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 01:29:42 PM
I don't have time to check availability, but there was none in the next three weeks at any HH property in MLE?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
I don't have time to check availability, but there was none in the next three weeks at any HH property in MLE?
If you're asking me, I checked for the first/second week in August. I'm going to call them up in a few minutes to find out.
I just hope that my points transfer quickly from VA to HH.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 03:05:57 PM
I don't know if this is a good price, but I see a water villa at the Iru Fusha for 318 in early August. Is this any good of a price?
https://secure3.hilton.com/en_US/hi/reservation/book.htm?execution=e1s1
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 03:21:22 PM
Was debating staying there on a friends and family rate. Not a bad choice, but no plunge pool.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 04:03:44 PM
Was debating staying there on a friends and family rate. Not a bad choice, but no plunge pool.
Is that rate lower than the one I found? Is it refundable?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 04:15:24 PM
Is your $318 rate for an OWB?

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 04:22:06 PM
Is your $318 rate for an OWB?


what the difference btw that and a water villa?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 04:31:03 PM
what the difference btw that and a water villa?

Same. Just wanted to make sure you weren't talking about a beach villa for $318.

Yeah family rate is $318 refundable.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 06:08:28 PM
So here is where I'm at, two primary choices.
A) Fly down to Seychelles from Israel, stay 4 or 5 nights at the http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/seychelles/hilton-seychelles-northolme-resort-and-spa-SEZHIHI/index.html?WT.mc_id=EPEMHIResconfEN for 50k points - 20% per night. Since I'm Gold, I would receive breakfast (if they have kosher), and free internet.
-I put this room on hold as a purchase, and when my HH points transfer, I will hopefully be able to rebook it using them.
-Biz class tix from Israel are 90k, although I saw that Ethiopian airlines seems to charge around 1k for my 2 month old.

B) Fly to Maldives and stay at the Sheraton for 8k + 150 per night. The transfer fee is 100 pp and around 50 for the child. The room is a smaller room (500sqf vs 1,000), and I don't have many of the amenities.
-Biz class from Israel is 70k.

The 2 Hiltons in the Maldives are a more distant option, mainly b/c I would need to pay about 1k for the transfer fee. If I swallowed this fee, the Conrad had availability for 50k (40k after discount) but it's non-refundable, so its a risk. The other Hilton doesn't have any availability using 50k, but as stated a few posts ago, they have water rooms for as low as 365 (after tax). This seems like a good rate, especially since you can receive up to 15 HH points per dollar spent, and if I sign up for the HH card from AMEX or Citi, I would receive another 6 points per dollar. Additionally, they have a promotion going on now that could make the final take be in excess of 30 HH per dollar (around a 20% rebate). But again, the 1k fee is throwing me for a loop, as well as these hotels not being refundable once booked.

Regardless, I intend on stopping over for a day or so s/w in Europe, since Doha is a gateway city, and the flights to both Seychelles and MLE go through there.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on July 05, 2012, 06:20:28 PM
you might want to check what the weather usually is in august. it might help influence your decision

btw, which flights did u find to sez?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 06:36:45 PM
Weather wise, I saw its supposed to be dry, but with choppy water.

Flights wise, I saw 2 main options. The shortest was TLV to ADD, to MEZ in only 13 hours, and they had Saver economy availability. But they charge for my girly.
The other options all revolve around making my way to Qatar, and from there directly to MEZ.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on July 05, 2012, 06:48:20 PM
Weather wise, I saw its supposed to be dry, but with choppy water.
thats surprising, i thought i read that august is monsoon season at mle
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on July 05, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
Weather wise, I saw its supposed to be dry, but with choppy water.

Flights wise, I saw 2 main options. The shortest was TLV to ADD, to MEZ in only 13 hours, and they had Saver economy availability. But they charge for my girly.
The other options all revolve around making my way to Qatar, and from there directly to MEZ.
thats surprising, i thought i read that august is monsoon season at mle
Hes talking about SEZ.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 06:54:28 PM
thats surprising, i thought i read that august is monsoon season at mle
Thought you were asking about MEZ. At MLE there is the risk, but it seems to be hit or miss.

Any anyhow, I enjoy a day of rain more than a day of sunshine if the weather isn't too cold.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: andrew on July 05, 2012, 06:58:26 PM
Which issue are you referring to?
both issues
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 06:59:37 PM
a) Went down to the passport office in NYC and got it done in 2 days.

b) Didn't face immigration, so I couldn't tell you.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: moish on July 05, 2012, 07:07:48 PM
Thought you were asking about MEZ. At MLE there is the risk, but it seems to be hit or miss.

Any anyhow, I enjoy a day of rain more than a day of sunshine if the weather isn't too cold.
you mean sez, right?

right there should be your answer, do want to spend the money on a coin toss?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on July 05, 2012, 07:11:37 PM
So here is where I'm at, two primary choices.
A) Fly down to Seychelles from Israel, stay 4 or 5 nights at the http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/seychelles/hilton-seychelles-northolme-resort-and-spa-SEZHIHI/index.html?WT.mc_id=EPEMHIResconfEN for 50k points - 20% per night. Since I'm Gold, I would receive breakfast (if they have kosher), and free internet.
...
B) Fly to Maldives and stay at the Sheraton for 8k + 150 per night. The transfer fee is 100 pp and around 50 for the child. The room is a smaller room (500sqf vs 1,000), and I don't have many of the amenities.
-Biz class from Israel is 70k.
...

If you're planning the vacation of a lifetime, I'd say splurge the $1k (if you can afford it) and go with the Hilton OWB option, especially if you'll actually be getting all those HH points like you describe. (obviously the weather issue might be a concern you should consider, but I know nothing about that)

As far as Kosher food is concerned, I doubt Hilton Gold will get you any Kosher breakfast in SEZ, and if they do it'll be an airline meal...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 07:13:52 PM
you mean sez, right?

right there should be your answer, do want to spend the money on a coin toss?
Correct, meant to write SEZ.

You're making good point with the hit or miss. This is a good site summarizing ppls weather comments for each month. Seems that most rains are limited in time, but I hear your point.
http://www.holidaysplease.co.uk/holidays/maldives-holidays/maldives/weather/
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: U-no-me! on July 05, 2012, 07:19:47 PM
Correct, meant to write SEZ.

You're making good point with the hit or miss. This is a good site summarizing ppls weather comments for each month. Seems that most rains are limited in time, but I hear your point.
http://www.holidaysplease.co.uk/holidays/maldives-holidays/maldives/weather/

Hey, what happened to you going to sleep?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1885.msg254921#msg254921 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1885.msg254921#msg254921)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: andrew on July 05, 2012, 07:21:01 PM
a) Went down to the passport office in NYC and got it done in 2 days.

b) Didn't face immigration, so I couldn't tell you.
how did you enter the country without going thru immigration??
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 07:24:06 PM
Hey, what happened to you going to sleep?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1885.msg254921#msg254921 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1885.msg254921#msg254921)

:)
Thought that as well.
But I never saw your agreement, so I figured, what the heck.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 07:24:58 PM
a) Went down to the passport office in NYC and got it done in 2 days.

b) Didn't face immigration, so I couldn't tell you.
Could s/o transfer through Qatar only using an Israeli passport? Or would they string you up?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on July 05, 2012, 07:27:02 PM
Could s/o transfer through Qatar only using an Israeli passport? Or would they string you up?

With your Rebbetzin and kid? Really?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 07:35:07 PM
With your Rebbetzin and kid? Really?
Not planning on it! Going to the consulate in a few days, and it should take 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 05, 2012, 07:49:54 PM
Since I'm Gold, I would receive breakfast (if they have kosher), and free internet.


Getting Kosher has been tough in Seychelles since the Kosher Delight branch there closed down in 09'.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 07:55:50 PM
how did you enter the country without going thru immigration??

Met a pretty influential character on the plane JFK-AUH ;)

Getting Kosher has been tough in Seychelles since the Kosher Delight branch there closed down in 09'.

Yeah, that's been my experience as well :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 07:58:02 PM
right there should be your answer, do want to spend the money on a coin toss?

You're making good point with the hit or miss. This is a good site summarizing ppls weather comments for each month. Seems that most rains are limited in time, but I hear your point.
http://www.holidaysplease.co.uk/holidays/maldives-holidays/maldives/weather/

I was there in "rainy season" and the longest it rained for was maaaaaybe 25 minutes. Yeah, it won't be as spectacularly sunny as it is during the dry season on some days, but it's hardly a reason to pay twice the price (if you're not using miles) or suffer through finding availability (if you are).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 05, 2012, 08:03:23 PM
I was there in "rainy season" and the longest it rained for was maaaaaybe 25 minutes. Yeah, it won't be as spectacularly sunny as it is during the dry season on some days, but it's hardly a reason to pay twice the price (if you're not using miles) or suffer through finding availability (if you are).

I was there in August for 4 days and did not see the sun for more than one hour a day.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on July 05, 2012, 08:09:42 PM
I was there in August for 4 days and did not see the sun for more than one hour a day.

Almost as bad as Iceland in the winter :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 08:21:01 PM
I was there in August for 4 days and did not see the sun for more than one hour a day.

I stand corrected :P

I'm glad that didn't happen to us...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on July 05, 2012, 08:56:23 PM
Fly in July to MLE and stay the the W=A in an OWB with a pool for 37.5K HH?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2012, 08:57:14 PM
Fly in July to MLE and stay the the W=A in an OWB with a pool for 37.5K HH?

Yes, please.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 06, 2012, 01:45:15 AM
Fly in July to MLE and stay the the W=A in an OWB with a pool for 37.5K HH?
Are you seeing that online? I checked the end of July and didn't a/t.
Also, I assume you reach the 37.5 after applying AXON rewards?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: andrew on July 06, 2012, 07:47:17 AM
Met a pretty influential character on the plane JFK-AUH ;)
on the TR it seemed like you parted as soon as you left the plane, you therefor have to fill us in on the rest!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on July 06, 2012, 10:13:21 AM
Are you seeing that online? I checked the end of July and didn't a/t.
Also, I assume you reach the 37.5 after applying AXON rewards?
When I checked last month July was wide open, now it's tougher, but if you're ready for a last-minute vacation of a lifetime at dirt-cheap rates here ya go folks:
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2012, 10:34:46 AM
Wow.

I just looked at that property again -- what a tremendous loss for the Hilton program... and for us.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 06, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
Wow
+1
If only I had done the passport sooner...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2012, 10:48:39 AM
No way to rush it in israel?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 06, 2012, 10:57:48 AM
If you show them a ticket at the US Consulate in Jerusalem, they can do it for you same day. I've done it before.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2012, 10:59:07 AM
on the TR it seemed like you parted as soon as you left the plane, you therefor have to fill us in on the rest!

We did - I was just messin' around.

We didn't face immigration because we stayed overnight in the F lounge.

If you show them a ticket at the US Consulate in Jerusalem, they can do it for you same day. I've done it before.

Yeah, figured there had to be a way. @Reuven -- I'd try to make this happen.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 06, 2012, 11:00:43 AM
If you show them a ticket at the US Consulate in Jerusalem, they can do it for you same day. I've done it before.
Rules have been restrcited recently, but there's a thread somewhere where someone managed to get one immediately. (I think it wasashers)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: brytch on July 06, 2012, 05:01:51 PM
If you're planning the vacation of a lifetime, I'd say splurge the $1k (if you can afford it) and go with the Hilton OWB option, especially if you'll actually be getting all those HH points like you describe. (obviously the weather issue might be a concern you should consider, but I know nothing about that)

As far as Kosher food is concerned, I doubt Hilton Gold will get you any Kosher breakfast in SEZ, and if they do it'll be an airline meal...

Hilton Iru Fushi was unimpressive in my opinion.. my seaplane leaving the Waldorf stopped at the Iru Fushi on the way, and it was a huge difference compared to the Waldorf.

It seemed like a huge hotel, lots of people, less privacy, the beach we landed next to was nothing compared to the Waldorf.

If you are going stick to the Conrad in my opinion or Waldorf if you can make it in time.. anyone who wants pics of waldorf I can send a few
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2012, 05:19:01 PM
Just post a few pics here?

Also -- TR??
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on July 06, 2012, 05:35:47 PM
Just post a few pics here?

Also -- TR??
+1
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on July 06, 2012, 05:46:42 PM
Surprised no one has made an inappropriate comment pointing out the inauspicious date Hilton is losing the Waldorf
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 07, 2012, 04:57:54 PM
Yeah, figured there had to be a way. @Reuven -- I'd try to make this happen.

Wife reminded me that its the 3 weeks, so....

And weather wise, any reason to expect a difference between Seychelles and Maldives in August?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 07, 2012, 05:48:52 PM
Running into a major issue now.
Last week, UA was showing daily availability to both SEZ and well as MLE.

Tonight, they're telling me nothing is showing up, and after a lot of time on hold, she told me that there is no valid routing. Additionally, I'm seeing not seeing anymore on the website to go to SEZ!!

Was this some Qatar bloodbath?

It also won't let me route through Singapore to go to MLE.

Dumb luck I guess.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 08:17:24 AM
Running into a major issue now.
Last week, UA was showing daily availability to both SEZ and well as MLE.

Tonight, they're telling me nothing is showing up, and after a lot of time on hold, she told me that there is no valid routing. Additionally, I'm seeing not seeing anymore on the website to go to SEZ!!

Was this some Qatar bloodbath?

It also won't let me route through Singapore to go to MLE.

Dumb luck I guess.

Oddly enough, UA is showing availability again. Back to making calls tonight, and hoping that my transfer from Virgin to HH hurries up.

Anyone have a good summary of the fees that airlines charge for infants when using reward tickets? I know Dan had s/t, but it focused a lot on BA, and I'm only looking at the Star Alliance.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 08, 2012, 10:19:09 AM
Aeroplan is the best. UA charges 10% of the rate, which is very expensive.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 10:31:55 AM
Aeroplan is the best. UA charges 10% of the rate, which is very expensive.
Even if you're not flying their metal? The tix I'm looking at don't have any UA flights.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2012, 10:34:26 AM
You don't have to be flying their metal, you just need to book with AP miles. But you'd need to book at least one adult with AP miles to get the child at 10% AFAIK.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 08, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
You don't have to be flying their metal, you just need to book with AP miles. But you'd need to book at least one adult with AP miles to get the child at 10% AFAIK.
AP allows kids for $100/$150 in J/F.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2012, 11:35:52 AM
AP allows kids for $100/$150 in J/F.

Right. Got confused with BA. Either way the point is the same - gotta put at least one adult on there.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 08, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
Right. Got confused with BA. Either way the point is the same - gotta put at least one adult on there.
Officially thats the rule for every infant reservation.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Devorah on July 08, 2012, 11:44:26 AM
Officially thats the rule for every infant reservation.
Are u implying that it can be done unofficially?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 08, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Are u implying that it can be done unofficially?
My understanding is that a TA can issue a rev ticket for an infant alone, however it's against the rules. Not exactly sure.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2012, 11:59:41 AM
My understanding is that a TA can issue a rev ticket for an infant alone, however it's against the rules. Not exactly sure.

...except this wouldn't be a rev ticket...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on July 08, 2012, 01:59:07 PM
...except this wouldn't be a rev ticket...

The $100/$150 infant ticket is considered rev, even if it get's attached to a (UA) award ticket later on (which PG suggested might be possible, check with our local TA if you're seriously interested in trying this).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 02:29:40 PM
Pardon my confusion, but I don't have enough MR points sitting around to transfer to AP, so I'll either be using US Airway or UA. Problem with US Airway is that the stopover has to be done in a hub city, and I have no interest in Qatar. I've read to call back and find a more clueless agent, but I realized that I need 180 to book enjoy, and I only have 160 in my main account.
That leaves me with UA.
With UA, can I put a hold on a tik done over the phone? I don't have status with them.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2012, 02:38:39 PM
Problem with US Airway is that the stopover has to be done in a hub city
-1
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 04:25:00 PM
-1
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2011/02/05/using-us-airways-dividend-miles-to-book-star-alliance-awards/

Stopover restrictions: Rarely enforced, but any stopover is supposed to be at a Star Alliance hub city. This is so that you aren’t routing yourself ‘out of the way’ of the most direct routing. You can also have your stopover in a US Airways gateway city (Charlotte, Philadelphia, Phoenix) or a US Airways international destination city (the rules don’t say this, but it may require flying into that destination on US Airways).
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2011/02/05/using-us-airways-dividend-miles-to-book-star-alliance-awards/

Stopover restrictions: Rarely enforced, but any stopover is supposed to be at a Star Alliance hub city. This is so that you aren’t routing yourself ‘out of the way’ of the most direct routing. You can also have your stopover in a US Airways gateway city (Charlotte, Philadelphia, Phoenix) or a US Airways international destination city (the rules don’t say this, but it may require flying into that destination on US Airways).
BTFY.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 04:54:03 PM
BTFY.

Hence I wrote

I've read to call back and find a more clueless agent,
Title: Re: Maldives Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2012, 10:30:06 PM
Next installment of TR here (http://bit.ly/ONaFZS).

(Starts on page 12, and covers EY F Lounge and EY J AUH-MLE.)

Hope you enjoy.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on July 08, 2012, 10:39:14 PM
Very nice!

Looking forward to the rest.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 08, 2012, 10:58:58 PM
Great TR! You should make a coffee table book out of it when it's all done.

Maybe it was just me, but other than the Spa, I was a bit disappointed with the EY F lounge. Maybe it was just that I had such high hopes. Quite small as well.
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on July 08, 2012, 11:01:04 PM
Very nice!

Looking forward to the rest.
+1
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2012, 11:11:29 PM
Great TR! You should make a coffee table book out of it when it's all done.

Maybe it was just me, but other than the Spa, I was a bit disappointed with the EY F lounge. Maybe it was just that I had such high hopes. Quite small as well.

It was on the smaller side (especially compared to the one in Doha which was the size of a small city), but I found that to be a positive thing as it made it seem more intimate, with more attention being paid to the pax.

What lounges beat it? FCT in FRA? Thai in BKK?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 08, 2012, 11:15:30 PM
It was on the smaller side (especially compared to the one in Doha which was the size of a small city), but I found that to be a positive thing as it made it seem more intimate, with more attention being paid to the pax.

What lounges beat it? FCT in FRA? Thai in BKK?

I had a hard time finding seating at 8 AM. Menu did look good though.

Also the RainSky by Dornbracht system in the shower is quite amazing. Some of the hotels in the UAE have it as well. I tried ordering it for my house, but apparently it's illegal in the USA and Canada because it uses too much water.  Some would also probably argue that buying a German shower system is a bit worse than leasing a Beamer. Probably true.

Yes, both of those lounges are nicer as well as the CX F lounge in HKG and prob the BA Concorde Room in LHR
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2012, 11:21:25 PM
Ah, RainSky (http://www.stylepark.com/en/dornbracht/rainsky-e-overhead-rain-shower-spray-system)? That's what that marvelous shower was called? Utterly blissful. I seriously might have been in there for 40 minutes.

Yeah, it was busier at about 7 or 8 am then it was at 10 or 11pm. I quite liked it the night before, but can definitely understand it being too small when more than about 40-50 people are there.

Well, I hope to some day try out some of those lounges...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2012, 07:31:57 AM
I'm looking/hoping for s/o with HH points to do me a favor by putting a reservation on hold, and then transferring it to me once my points post. I'm hoping to snag s/t at Conrad b/f it dries up.

PM if you can help
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2012, 07:46:26 AM
Saw on the FT thread that the WA might be joining IHG (he heard it from a staffer).
Imagine it on a PointsBreaks :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2012, 10:38:19 AM
Imagine it on a PointsBreaks :)
That will never happen, but still that's good news if true.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2012, 10:38:33 AM
+1
+2
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2012, 06:11:04 PM
@AJK
Do you know more details about the lounges at ADU? If flying biz class, are you given access? How about coach? Is it open 24hrs?
Could an overnight be pulled off somewhat comfortably?
And does one need to go through customs?

I'm looking into TLV - AMM - ADU - MLE
And it's a great price. 35/50/70.

Problem is, no extra stopovers, and an overnight in each direction.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 09, 2012, 06:17:37 PM
ADU or AUH?

Assuming AUH, I'd try and do as close to 24 hours as possible. There are some very cool things to see if you leave the airport
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on July 09, 2012, 06:18:50 PM
ADU
lol
Now there you may have some issues with being Israeli...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2012, 06:20:38 PM
ADU or AUH?

My bad. AUH.
I would be uninterested in ADU.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 09, 2012, 06:23:26 PM
My bad. AUH.
I would be uninterested in ADU.

Of course you would get lounge access if flying Business Class.

I'm pretty sure that the lounge is open 24 hours.

Also if given the choice, take Etihad over Royal Jordanian for AMM-AUH.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 09, 2012, 07:15:54 PM
lol
Now there you may have some issues with being Israeli...

Ha!

@Reuven -- I can't tell you what J lounge is like in AUH, but like damaxer91 said, it is open 24 hours.

I'd either (a) just pay the 70K and fly F which will increase your odds of getting admission to the F lounge - it's a treat, and you'll have a place to stay, or (b) increase the length of your layover so you can sleep in a Hyatt and explore.

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on July 09, 2012, 07:28:08 PM
Unfortunately for me increasing my layover in AUH wasn't possible, as I arrived JFK-AUH at 8:00PM and they only have one AUH-MLE flight a day at 9:20am, so no dice for me.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on September 11, 2012, 01:21:28 AM
For those interested in BOB, MMS apparently just went there on his second honeymoon.

I do want to read his report, but if I have to see one more picture of his wife in front of some generic statue...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: aussiebochur on September 11, 2012, 03:52:07 AM
For those interested in BOB, MMS apparently just went there on his second honeymoon.

I do want to read his report, but if I have to see one more picture of his wife in front of some generic statue...
There's plenty on FT and TA if you are looking for various opinions on resorts, activities etc.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: DrDanny on September 11, 2012, 04:07:59 AM
I do want to read his report, but if I have to see one more picture of his wife in front of some generic statue...
+1 lol
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on October 31, 2012, 08:12:46 PM
Next installment of TR here (http://bit.ly/ONaFZS).

(Starts on page 12, and covers EY F Lounge and EY J AUH-MLE.)

Hope you enjoy.
Bump?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on November 01, 2012, 09:44:22 AM
Been swamped.

I'll try to get to it.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AsherO on December 03, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
Why isn't NAN (Fiji) as popular a destination as the ones in the title/OP?

I noticed Fiji (http://www.priorityclub.com/hotels/us/en/suva/suvvp/hoteldetail?ratePreference=IVANI) on the latest PointBreaks list (http://www.priorityclub.com/hotels/us/en/global/redeem/pointbreaks?rateCode=IVANI&cm_mmc=socialmedia-_-facebook-_-pcr-_-pointbreaks_12.3.12) and it got me wondering.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 03, 2012, 11:20:58 AM
Why isn't NAN (Fiji) as popular a destination as the ones in the title/OP?
heard for someone who was there, Maldives are MUCH nicer

Didn't get that off my list (along w PPT)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on December 03, 2012, 11:49:38 AM
heard for someone who was there, Maldives are MUCH nicer

Didn't get that off my list (along w PPT)

True and 5 star resorts are few and very expensive
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: E-MAN on February 15, 2013, 12:34:45 PM
Been swamped.

I'll try to get to it.

@AJK Did you ever finish that TR?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on February 15, 2013, 01:02:16 PM
@AJK Did you ever finish that TR?

Unfortunately, not yet.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 28, 2014, 09:15:12 AM
Unfortunately, not yet.

Bump... >:D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on September 28, 2014, 09:37:58 AM
Why isn't NAN (Fiji) as popular a destination as the ones in the title/OP?

I noticed Fiji (http://www.priorityclub.com/hotels/us/en/suva/suvvp/hoteldetail?ratePreference=IVANI) on the latest PointBreaks list (http://www.priorityclub.com/hotels/us/en/global/redeem/pointbreaks?rateCode=IVANI&cm_mmc=socialmedia-_-facebook-_-pcr-_-pointbreaks_12.3.12) and it got me wondering.

Not as nice and the hotels are pretty average
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on September 28, 2014, 09:45:19 AM
Not as nice and the hotels are pretty average
Timely answer  :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Yaalili on September 28, 2014, 11:53:46 AM
What about KUL? Some of the cheapest OWB's there starting at under 200 a night..
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: ual902 on September 29, 2014, 01:19:09 AM
What about KUL? Some of the cheapest OWB's there starting at under 200 a night..

KUL as in Kuala Lumpur?!!!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Yaalili on September 29, 2014, 01:54:46 AM
KUL as in Kuala Lumpur?!!!

Yup, there is a huge OWB complex just half hour from airport there.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on October 31, 2014, 03:26:39 AM
Don't need to prove anything right now.  I'll do it myself in a 5 star hotel in an OWB with a pool for less than half of that and post a TR :D

I think I won this one, huh?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 31, 2014, 03:30:36 AM
I think I won this one, huh?

Yes... IF you ever get around to finishing your darn TR. >:D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on October 31, 2014, 03:32:02 AM
I'm currently working on two/three others :)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Dan on October 31, 2014, 09:47:40 AM
Nah, I won by taming you down and making you a total addict ;)

But man that HH deal for 37K sure was sweet.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 09, 2015, 07:43:29 AM
Just read the first ~300 posts through your landing back home. I can't figure out how you ended up deciding on MLE over BOB. It seems like you were just looking for people's opinions and then went with MLE once you realized award availability was easier to find. Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on January 11, 2015, 04:07:18 AM
Just read the first ~300 posts through your landing back home. I can't figure out how you ended up deciding on MLE over BOB. It seems like you were just looking for people's opinions and then went with MLE once you realized award availability was easier to find. Am I wrong?

As I've often repeated 'round these parts MLE is better in certain regards:

1) Better premium cabins, especially F (which doesn't exist at all with BOB)
2) Easier to secure OWB with private pool
3) More options for routing, making awards easier
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 11, 2015, 06:33:30 AM
As I've often repeated 'round these parts MLE is better in certain regards:

1) Better premium cabins, especially F (which doesn't exist at all with BOB)
2) Easier to secure OWB with private pool
3) More options for routing, making awards easier
I didn't update my post here, but I did piece that info together from reading through the threads last night.

I'd be okay with the lower quality cabins, but flight/IC Thalasso availability and cost of the last leg are keeping me from BOB and the longer flight time, cost of the last leg and cost of securing an OWB are keeping me from MLE. It looks beautiful, but unless some of those things change, those restrictions will probably hold me back.
Title: Bora Bora or Maldives?
Post by: CS91 on April 20, 2015, 04:11:24 PM
Want to start planning my bar trip, and I've always wanted to go to either one of these, but don't know which one to go too. Would probably go in the month of August (if that makes a difference for the weather). As for points, I have AA points for the flights, and a lot of UR points that I plan on using for the hotel. Anyone have any insight? Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Bora Bora or Maldives?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 20, 2015, 04:14:23 PM
Want to start planning my bar trip, and I've always wanted to go to either one of these, but don't know which one to go too. Would probably go in the month of August (if that makes a difference for the weather). As for points, I have AA points for the flights, and a lot of UR points that I plan on using for the hotel. Anyone have any insight? Thanks!!!
There are currently 3 existing threads in the subject
Title: Re: Bora Bora or Maldives?
Post by: CS91 on April 20, 2015, 04:15:25 PM
There are currently 3 existing threads in the subject

Sorry. Didn't see any that compared them. Can you please point me to them?
Title: Re: Bora Bora or Maldives?
Post by: chucksterace on April 20, 2015, 04:18:14 PM
Just go through both master threads and see which one you like better.

Bora Bora Master Thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=178)
Maldives Master Thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15937)

Also read through the trip reports and that can help also.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 20, 2015, 04:19:54 PM
Just go through both master threads and see which one you like better.

Bora Bora Master Thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=178)
Maldives Master Thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15937)

Also read through the trip reports and that can help also.
There are no BOB TR's unfortunately
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: CS91 on April 20, 2015, 04:59:13 PM
I've seen that June-August is the least popular time for the Maldives because of the weather. Is it that it's just not as good, or is it not worth going in August at all? Because other sites seem to indicate that weather in the Maldives is always unpredictable, and often times you'll have a random downpour here and there, but it usually clears up pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 20, 2015, 05:01:55 PM
I've seen that June-August is the least popular time for the Maldives because of the weather. Is it that it's just not as good, or is it not worth going in August at all? Because other sites seem to indicate that weather in the Maldives is always unpredictable, and often times you'll have a random downpour here and there, but it usually clears up pretty quickly.
Summer Months have a much higher probability of rain, I've seen reports of almost non stop rain for a week, so YMMV
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: CS91 on April 20, 2015, 05:03:24 PM
Summer Months have a much higher probability of rain, I've seen reports of almost non stop rain for a week, so YMMV

Is the weather in Bora Bora during August better? Or same story?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 20, 2015, 05:04:45 PM
Is the weather in Bora Bora during August better? Or same story?
BOB has a 180 degree opposite weather, May- September has the least rain
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
I went to MLE in May, and we had 80%+ sunshine.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Ergel on April 20, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
I went to MLE in May, and we had 80%+ sunshine.
et tu brute?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: CS91 on April 20, 2015, 05:15:32 PM
I went to MLE in May, and we had 80%+ sunshine.

Guess I'll take a pre-bar trip  :D
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 06:09:14 PM
Guess I'll take a pre-bar trip  :D

Not a bad idea :)

BOB is going to have better weather in June, but it's also peak season, which means planes and resorts will be full and award availability scarcer.

Whereas June is low season for MLE with all its attendant benefits and downsides.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: CS91 on April 20, 2015, 06:57:33 PM
Not a bad idea :)

BOB is going to have better weather in June, but it's also peak season, which means planes and resorts will be full and award availability scarcer.

Whereas June is low season for MLE with all its attendant benefits and downsides.

Read your MLE trip report and part of me wants to ignore the chances of there being rain just so that I can get that Etihad flight experience that you had  ::)
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 06:58:23 PM
Read your MLE trip report and part of me wants to ignore the chances of there being rain just so that I can get that Etihad flight experience that you had  ::)

It's almost worth it :P
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: lunatic on April 20, 2015, 07:13:53 PM
It's almost worth it :P

Then you can just skip the speedboat and plane that costs 500 and turn around when you land in MLE
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on April 21, 2015, 02:52:37 AM
I've seen that June-August is the least popular time for the Maldives because of the weather. Is it that it's just not as good, or is it not worth going in August at all? Because other sites seem to indicate that weather in the Maldives is always unpredictable, and often times you'll have a random downpour here and there, but it usually clears up pretty quickly.
Went in July, and besides for rain the day we landed, it was great the other 4 days.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 21, 2015, 12:48:49 PM
Went in July, and besides for rain the day we landed, it was great the other 4 days.

I went in July and had rain 3 of the 4 days
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: CS91 on April 21, 2015, 12:55:34 PM
I went in July and had rain 3 of the 4 days

So maybe I'll do BOB if I can only go in the summer. Why does it seem that so many more people have gone to MLE than BOB? Any specific reason?
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 21, 2015, 01:34:29 PM
So maybe I'll do BOB if I can only go in the summer. Why does it seem that so many more people have gone to MLE than BOB? Any specific reason?
MLE is 11.5 times easier with points.

BOB is a PITA with points, especially in the Summer months
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Drago on April 21, 2015, 01:59:58 PM
So maybe I'll do BOB if I can only go in the summer. Why does it seem that so many more people have gone to MLE than BOB? Any specific reason?
For us Israeli's, MLE is nice and 'quick'.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Luvtotravel on April 21, 2015, 07:00:36 PM
Wow! Just binge read entire thread and tr's. Awesome! The first paragraph in tr described me...
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: ABC on May 03, 2015, 08:30:01 PM
Can you please show the page of his TR?
I only found a TR of him getting there but nothing about the place.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Luvtotravel on May 03, 2015, 08:52:10 PM
Can you please show the page of his TR?
I only found a TR of him getting there but nothing about the place.
I think that's all there is!
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: ABC on May 04, 2015, 03:52:15 AM
I think that's all there is!

Ok,thanks.
I will read the others.

By the way from Israel it's very cheap to get there with United miles.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 23, 2015, 09:53:33 PM
@AJK Time for an update. Please
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2015, 09:55:05 PM
I know, I owe one. And it's coming.
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 25, 2015, 03:34:03 AM
I know, I owe one. And it's coming.

Really?!  :o
Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 26, 2015, 10:51:37 PM
I know, I owe one. And it's coming.

Title: Re: Honeymoon: BOB, MLE, Or LIH?
Post by: shulem92 on December 30, 2018, 12:58:06 PM
I know, I owe one. And it's coming.
3 years and counting