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Title: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 18, 2012, 07:07:14 PM
As Dan posted on dansdeals.com, you could convert your SP from a VS to a WMC with the most important benefit being CDW in Israel.

I, like Dan, had the same experience with switching where they downgraded me from a SP to a regular Sapphire. When I originally called up to make the change, the CSR told me that he doesn't have the option to do it but he'll escalate it and I'll get a response in the mail. Sure enough, I noticed a couple days later that there was a new account listed in my Online banking and a today I received my Sapphire (not preferred) WMC in the mail. Being that Dan already mentioned that he realized they downgraded him, I immediately called up and told them to re-upgrade me to SP and make sure it remains a WMC and does not revert back to a VS. The CSR I spoke with this morning was very helpful and she told me it was a mistake and they would re-upgrade me and it would remain a WMC, and she also credited me 7,500 UR points for the inconvenience!

What have been others' experiences with switching?

Also, as mentioned above, the WMC offers CDW in Israel, but when I read the benefits guide that came with the card, it says: "Benefits may not apply in ..., ..., Israel, etc. Please check with your rental agency first", It doesn't say Israel is excluded, but that it might be, and from what people write about their experiences renting cars in Israel it seems like they usually make you pay for CDW, so if I was to check with the rental agency, as the T&C says I should, then I'm pretty sure they'll say it doesn't cover! So, how does this work? Is Israel covered or not?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 18, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
Another advantage of the SP WMC over VS is that it has No Preset Spending Limit.

I saw on FT someone asked a CSR for a comparism chart of the diff between WMC and VS and they sent him 2 letters outlining each cards benefits, which he scanned in and only the WMC letter states the NPSL.

I imagine that it's a WMC benefit (not specifically Chase Sapphire) as my only other WMC is a Citi AA which also has NPSL and a couple months ago they gave me a 150% CL increase without me even requesting it!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bubbles on January 18, 2012, 11:15:39 PM
Another advantage of the SP WMC over VS is that it has No Preset Spending Limit.

I saw on FT someone asked a CSR for a comparism chart of the diff between WMC and VS and they sent him 2 letters outlining each cards benefits, which he scanned in and only the WMC letter states the NPSL.

I imagine that it's a WMC benefit (not specifically Chase Sapphire) as my only other WMC is a Citi AA which also has NPSL and a couple months ago they gave me a 150% CL increase without me even requesting it!

If it's true that the MC version is still a NPSL then I would actually say that A disadvantage of the SP WMC over VS is that it has No Preset Spending Limit.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 18, 2012, 11:22:04 PM
If it's true that the MC version is still a NPSL then I would actually say that A disadvantage of the SP WMC over VS is that it has No Preset Spending Limit.

Why is that a disadvantage?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on January 18, 2012, 11:25:04 PM
Why is that a disadvantage?
the full cl won't appear on your cr
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 18, 2012, 11:26:32 PM
the full cl won't appear on your cr

It currently does with my Citi WMC?!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Chaikel on January 19, 2012, 03:42:42 AM
A Chase SP rep I spoke with when I activated my card told me that the Visa has NPSL.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: andrew on January 19, 2012, 07:13:44 AM
Sure enough, I noticed a couple days later that there was a new account listed in my Online banking
does the visa account still remain on your online banking? Is the master card number the same as the visa's.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Chaikel on January 19, 2012, 07:34:24 AM
Is the master card number the same as the visa's.
Not really possible since Visa starts with a 4 and MC starts with a 5
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bubbles on January 19, 2012, 08:33:50 AM
A Chase SP rep I spoke with when I activated my card told me that the Visa has NPSL.

How long ago was this? They switched it over a little while ago (atleast by me they did)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Chaikel on January 19, 2012, 08:46:44 AM
How long ago was this? They switched it over a little while ago (atleast by me they did)
Less than a month ago
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bubbles on January 19, 2012, 09:09:09 AM
Less than a month ago

interesting. did you check if the CL is showing up on your report? It shows up by me
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: njmacman on January 19, 2012, 12:17:23 PM
I don't understand, what is the final answer. Does the Sapphire Mastercard cover CDW in Israel or not? I am getting it (I hope) to use instead of Citi Preferred Mastercard which charges forex fee.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 19, 2012, 12:18:01 PM
Does the Sapphire Mastercard cover CDW in Israel or not?
Yes. Period, end of story.
With no Forex and 2.14ppd, this is the card to use for rentals in Israel.
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 12:48:28 PM
Yes. Period, end of story.
With no Forex and 2.14ppd, this is the card to use for rentals in Israel.
You said you got some sort of letter from chase confirming that CDW works in Israel?
From what people are saying about past rentals in Israel, unless you have such a letter, they force you to pay for CDW, especially now that the T&C leaves it up to them to decide if it's eligible!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 19, 2012, 12:51:29 PM
From what people are saying about past rentals in Israel, unless you have such a letter, they force you to pay for CDW
That's very YMMV.  Most places will still allow MCW to rent without CDW without any letter, but getting the letter of coverage is never a bad idea.
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 12:54:53 PM
That's very YMMV.  Most places will still allow MCW to rent without CDW without any letter, but getting the letter of coverage is never a bad idea.
So, if they let you decline CDW without the letter, then you are fine since the T&C never specifically excluded Israel?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 19, 2012, 12:58:34 PM
You are fine because the card covers Israel.  All Ts and Cs say Israel may be excluded, which is why you PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: andrew on January 19, 2012, 01:05:01 PM
Not really possible since Visa starts with a 4 and MC starts with a 5
does that mean the credit report shows 2 accounts? it's highly unlikely they delete that visa account one day to the next.
unless the account number on the report stays the same even if the credit card number switches?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: njmacman on January 19, 2012, 02:53:39 PM
Getting the letter from Citi has been easy. They email it to you when you give them the dates. BTW, the rental has to be less than 31 days. If more, they don't cover.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: andrew on January 19, 2012, 06:02:17 PM
if i would just switch my card to mc how will my credit report look, will they add another account and delete the visa account or will i see two accounts one saying closed by consumer?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 06:24:31 PM
You are fine because the card covers Israel.  All Ts and Cs say Israel may be excluded, which is why you PUTPAC.

When you say PUTPAC, I magine call Chase not the Rental Agency in Israel?

does that mean the credit report shows 2 accounts? it's highly unlikely they delete that visa account one day to the next.
unless the account number on the report stays the same even if the credit card number switches?

It's very likely that the report will continue to show 2 accounts, with one having no updates. I changed from one BofA CC to another 2 years ago and there are still 2 accounts showing on my EX and EQ (TU only shows one) reports with one not having any updates since I made the switch.

BTW, the rental has to be less than 31 days. If more, they don't cover.

That's always the case, not specifically in Israel. (diff cards vary with length)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 06:27:23 PM
Also, Chase told me the Visa card will remain active for 30 days just to give time to switch over, currently I see 2 accounts in my Online Banking (that both update exactly the same for every transaction), I'll see if one disappears after 30 days.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on January 19, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Also, Chase told me the Visa card will remain active for 30 days just to give time to switch over, currently I see 2 accounts in my Online Banking (that both update exactly the same for every transaction), I'll see if one disappears after 30 days.

Does the visa still have the cl?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 06:43:58 PM
Does the visa still have the cl?

Every detail about the 2 accounts are identical, every purchase and credit show up in both and they both show the same original CL

Even the UR points both show up the same amount each.
(When I was playing around on the UR website I saw the option of transferring from one account to the other so I attempted a transfer from the Visa to the MC and on the the next screen it showed me that I would end up with double the miles, but when I submitted the transfer it still left me with the original amount in both accounts! too bad :(
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: HelpMe on January 19, 2012, 06:46:04 PM
Does the visa still have the cl?
Move the CL?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on January 19, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
Move the CL?

Yup. That's wat I was going to suggest. 
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 06:53:49 PM
Yup. That's wat I was going to suggest.

What do you mean? Call Chase and play dumb and ask them to transfer the CL from the Visa to the MC?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: HelpMe on January 19, 2012, 06:57:58 PM
What do you mean? Call Chase and play dumb and ask them to transfer the CL from the Visa to the MC?
Send a SM.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on January 19, 2012, 06:59:42 PM
What do you mean? Call Chase and play dumb and ask them to transfer the CL from the Visa to the MC?

I would say to move it too a different chase card other tjen the sp mc.

After reading your above post, it seems that its not actually an additional cl, its sharing the same cl as the new card so this plan probably won't do accomplishe anything.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 07:02:05 PM
Send a SM.

Sounds like an idea, has anyone tried this yet?

I would say to move it too a different chase card other tjen the sp mc.

After reading your above post, it seems that its not actually an additional cl, its sharing the same cl as the new card so this plan probably won't do accomplishe anything.

don't have another chase card, you think it's not worth me even trying?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on January 19, 2012, 07:12:11 PM

don't have another chase card, you think it's not worth me even trying?

You really have nothing to lose.  Worst comes to worst it will deduct it from the same cl and then add it back to the same cl.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Chachem Balaileh on January 19, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
FYI: I just recieved my Sapphire Preferred WMC Thanks Dan was a wonderfull idea

Here is what I did,
Called chase asked the rep to convert my freedom visa N/fee to a sapphire preferred MC $95 annual fee
she moved my points,credit line & balance over to the new card.
she also stated that the date of original opening of the old card transfers over to new card as it was opened years ago.
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 09:07:30 PM
FYI: I just recieved my Sapphire Preferred WMC Thanks Dan was a wonderfull idea

Here is what I did,
Called chase asked the rep to convert my freedom visa N/fee to a sapphire preferred MC $95 annual fee
she moved my points,credit line & balance over to the new card.
she also stated that the date of original opening of the old card transfers over to new card as it was opened years ago.
I imagine you're not getting a year free?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 09:56:12 PM
Just to point out, the CDW from the the Citi WMC doesn't mention any possible exclusions unlike the Sapphire WMC which says "may not be available..."
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on January 19, 2012, 10:07:33 PM
Just to point out, the CDW from the the Citi WMC doesn't mention any possible exclusions unlike the Sapphire WMC which says "may not be available..."

Either you and Dan don't have the same T&c, or one of you are just "generally speaking"

You are fine because the card covers Israel.   All Ts and Cs say Israel may be excluded , which is why you PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ghurty on January 19, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
I thing I someone asked this somewhere. I  just got my ink bold, and it as an Mastercard World Elite card.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: njmacman on January 19, 2012, 10:30:17 PM
I had to have them take my Hyatt Chase credit line and move it over to the Sapphire Preferred MC, otherwise they had rejected me for too many cards.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Chachem Balaileh on January 19, 2012, 10:52:51 PM
I imagine you're not getting a year free?
Forgot to mention it sorry
It is free for the first yr
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 10:53:27 PM
Either you and Dan don't have the same T&c, or one of you are just "generally speaking"

When I posted that I had just checked the pamphlet that came with my Citi WMC and it makes no mention of any countries
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 19, 2012, 10:54:01 PM
Forgot to mention it sorry
It is free for the first yr

What about 50K points after $3K spend?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on January 28, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
Seems like they did the same to me as they did to Dan. They swithtched me over but when I got my cards they were regular Sapphire and not preferred.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2012, 10:48:35 PM
Seems like they did the same to me as they did to Dan. They swithtched me over but when I got my cards they were regular Sapphire and not preferred.
Congrats, now call and complain and you'll get upgraded and should also get the 5K courtesy like I did :D
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: njmacman on January 28, 2012, 11:24:18 PM
I got the credit moved from my Hyatt card, free first year, and 50k points.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on January 29, 2012, 01:30:16 AM
Congrats, now call and complain and you'll get upgraded and should also get the 5K courtesy like I did :D
You actually said you got 2500 courtesy...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 29, 2012, 01:33:09 AM
Got 2,500 for the inconvenience of being downgraded by accident and 2,500 because my statement this month was all messed up and didn't give me the proper points due to the downgrade.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on January 29, 2012, 02:59:34 AM

Well not necessarily will his statement get messed up and miss out on points. ;-)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 29, 2012, 03:19:10 AM
Got 2,500 for the inconvenience of being downgraded by accident and 2,500 because my statement this month was all messed up and didn't give me the proper points due to the downgrade.

they originally gave me 7,500 points but they never gave me any more for messing up my statement!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arig on January 29, 2012, 01:26:26 PM
i would like to know if any has definitive info as to whether or not the sign up bonus of 50k is avail again if i convert my SP to a WMC and re-apply for the SP??
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on January 29, 2012, 03:01:02 PM
Seems like they did the same to me as they did to Dan. They swithtched me over but when I got my cards they were regular Sapphire and not preferred.
Update:

Spoke to a csr today who explained that when I requested the change the original csr forget to mention that I wasn't eligible for the SP WMC. Apparently there is some sort of system of rules as to what product can be exchanged and for whom. Although I was able to be changed to WMC I couldn't get the SP, even now the csr couldn't upgrade the WMC to SP. In the meantime it was "escalated" and I should hear from them tomorrow
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on January 29, 2012, 03:12:43 PM
Update:

Spoke to a csr today who explained that when I requested the change the original csr forget to mention that I wasn't eligible for the SP WMC. Apparently there is some sort of system of rules as to what product can be exchanged and for whom. Although I was able to be changed to WMC I couldn't get the SP, even now the csr couldn't upgrade the WMC to SP. In the meantime it was "escalated" and I should hear from them tomorrow

Sounds like a stupid excuse to me, I find it very unlikely that you should be ineligible for a SP WMC in one, if you are eligible for both SP and WMC separately
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on January 29, 2012, 06:23:57 PM
Sounds like a stupid excuse to me, I find it very unlikely that you should be ineligible for a SP WMC in one, if you are eligible for both SP and WMC separately
I know, but that's what i was told
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Ed on February 01, 2012, 05:22:38 PM
I applied for a Sapphire Preferred 3 weeks ago and was told that it was sent out 2 weeks ago so it seemed to have gotten lost in the mail. Once I am calling them to resend it, I have asked them to send me an MC instead of a visa, but so far I keep being told it can't be done unless I downgrade to a non preferred. Ill keep trying but does anyone know if they stopped switching them to MC? Also will I be able to pick up the 50k points on the MC or do I have to get those on the visa and then switch? Thanks
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 05:27:35 PM
Have them downgrade to non-preferred and then upgrade to preferred.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Ed on February 01, 2012, 05:32:20 PM
Have them downgrade to non-preferred and then upgrade to preferred.

Was thinking of doing that (maybe even get a few points for the hassle as you did) but should I first spend the 3k for the 50k points on the visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: myb821 on February 01, 2012, 05:33:55 PM
Was thinking of doing that (maybe even get a few points for the hassle as you did) but should I first spend the 3k for the 50k points on the visa?
probably
Have them downgrade to non-preferred and then upgrade to preferred.
and u sure u can do that in the first year
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on February 01, 2012, 05:36:25 PM
I did.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on February 01, 2012, 06:21:34 PM
I sent a SM to try and get the credit lines 'merged" from my Visa SP to my new MC SP, but they're not as dumb as I hoped, they went a removed the old Visa account from my Online Banking
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 01, 2012, 09:06:47 PM
I sent a SM to try and get the credit lines 'merged" from my Visa SP to my new MC SP, but they're not as dumb as I hoped, they went a removed the old Visa account from my Online Banking
that would never work as they clearly see it as a hybrid account currently in transition.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 01, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
Have them downgrade to non-preferred and then upgrade to preferred.
on that note, has anyone gone directly from sp  visa to sp  and?
from my conversation with a csr it sounded like the only way to convert is to first downgrade
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 02, 2012, 07:13:27 AM
on that note, has anyone gone directly from sp  visa to sp  and?
from my conversation with a csr it sounded like the only way to convert is to first downgrade

I just did it. I had the SP visa for about a month or two, then had it switched to the SP MC. Now i'm just waiting for my new SP visa to come in the mail.  ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on February 02, 2012, 08:06:20 AM
I just did it. I had the SP visa for about a month or two, then had it switched to the SP MC. Now i'm just waiting for my new SP visa to come in the mail.  ;D
Which new visa? You applied again for the 50k?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on February 02, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
Which new visa? You applied again for the 50k?

Yes. He no longer has the SP Visa, he has a SP MC.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 02, 2012, 11:03:43 AM
Yes. He no longer has the SP Visa, he has a SP MC.

That's correct.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 06, 2012, 11:35:16 PM
finally got things sorted out and just got my wmc. Now I'm having a problem destroying my old visa card.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2012, 11:45:15 PM
finally got things sorted out and just got my wmc. Now I'm having a problem destroying my old visa card.
Congrats!
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bubbles on February 07, 2012, 12:20:19 AM
finally got things sorted out and just got my wmc. Now I'm having a problem destroying my old visa card.

Lol. Dont have a blowtorch handy? :)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: creditor on February 07, 2012, 12:33:03 AM
just slightly OT, can I use the CO OPP[wmc] card to cover the insurance in Israel,and do the actual charge on the SP w/o converting it to a wm, or they only cover if the charge was made on the same card ?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 07, 2012, 12:34:42 AM
just slightly OT, can I use the CO OPP[wmc] card to cover the insurance in Israel,and do the actual charge on the SP w/o converting it to a wm, or they only cover if the charge was made on the same card ?
The co opp card albeit a wmc doesn't cover rentals in Israel
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 07, 2012, 12:36:30 AM
Congrats!
thanks, now I'll wait and see if my statement gets messed up ;)
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: creditor on February 07, 2012, 12:41:21 AM
The co opp card albeit a wmc doesn't cover rentals in Israel
why really? is it a different wmc or it was to do with chase?
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 07, 2012, 12:43:12 AM
why really? is it a different wmc or it was to do with chase?
it has to do with chase foregoing wmc coverage in order to offer their premium primary coverage
Title: Re: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: creditor on February 07, 2012, 01:07:04 AM
it has to do with chase foregoing wmc coverage in order to offer their premium primary coverage
thats weird,coz the SP is a visa card originally,so what do you mean by 'forgoing wmc coverage' ?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on February 07, 2012, 01:23:17 AM
thats weird,coz the SP is a visa card originally,so what do you mean by 'forgoing wmc coverage' ?

Please continue this discussion here
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8330.0
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on February 07, 2012, 02:22:06 AM
finally got things sorted out and just got my wmc. Now I'm having a problem destroying my old visa card.
Same with me, tried destroying the old card, and boy, it's not easy!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: rots5 on February 13, 2012, 12:33:53 PM
so basically i did the same thing as dan i got my card and i already put on the minimum amount needed (being im flying to america from israel and sold an iphone 4s here too :-) i just never got the actual card to call chase and ask them to switch it yet. but it happens to be that my mom just did the same exact thing and that she was also on the phone for hrs with the supervisor about getting it upgraded they too gave her points and said that she will get her WMC sapphire perffered in a few days.

now i would like to sign up for the amazon payments...which i did. i just dont know how i can do it monthly? also can i do it with more than one card at a time?!


thanks so much!

As Dan posted on dansdeals.com, you could convert your SP from a VS to a WMC with the most important benefit being CDW in Israel.

I, like Dan, had the same experience with switching where they downgraded me from a SP to a regular Sapphire. When I originally called up to make the change, the CSR told me that he doesn't have the option to do it but he'll escalate it and I'll get a response in the mail. Sure enough, I noticed a couple days later that there was a new account listed in my Online banking and a today I received my Sapphire (not preferred) WMC in the mail. Being that Dan already mentioned that he realized they downgraded him, I immediately called up and told them to re-upgrade me to SP and make sure it remains a WMC and does not revert back to a VS. The CSR I spoke with this morning was very helpful and she told me it was a mistake and they would re-upgrade me and it would remain a WMC, and she also credited me 7,500 UR points for the inconvenience!

What have been others' experiences with switching?

Also, as mentioned above, the WMC offers CDW in Israel, but when I read the benefits guide that came with the card, it says: "Benefits may not apply in ..., ..., Israel, etc. Please check with your rental agency first", It doesn't say Israel is excluded, but that it might be, and from what people write about their experiences renting cars in Israel it seems like they usually make you pay for CDW, so if I was to check with the rental agency, as the T&C says I should, then I'm pretty sure they'll say it doesn't cover! So, how does this work? Is Israel covered or not?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: andrew on February 13, 2012, 12:56:32 PM
can anyone confirm that they got the 50k (in their account) a 2cnd time from doing this , that's the most important thing
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on February 13, 2012, 12:57:27 PM
can anyone confirm that they got the 50k (in their account) a 2cnd time from doing this , that's the most important thing

Dan has churned the card, just not sure if it was through this method.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on February 13, 2012, 01:20:14 PM
Multiple people have churned this card on DDF.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on February 13, 2012, 01:21:44 PM
BTW, if I switch my SP VS to a SP WMC, will I have issue with any of the purchase/return/warranty protections?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 13, 2012, 01:23:31 PM
Dan has churned the card, just not sure if it was through this method.

how do u think it was done?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on February 13, 2012, 01:28:50 PM
Multiple people have churned this card on DDF.

The original question seemed to be asking if anyone has done it through this method.

how do u think it was done?

I'm not sure its ever been spelled out, but I'd imagine 1) cancel old one, 2) wait unspecified time, 3) reapply.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 13, 2012, 01:38:37 PM
"I'm not sure its ever been spelled out, but I'd imagine 1) cancel old one, 2) wait unspecified time, 3) reapply."

somehow i do not think that is/was the way -- to simple -- i never heard of a time frame required to churn a chase card --  we know amex and citi ---do not get me wrong -- i have no better idea

lots of sharp guys on dan's -- any input?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ae123 on February 13, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
Does the Sapphire Preferred WMC have foreign exchange fees?
If yes, what no-annual fee cards have no foreign exchange fees?
Thanks alot!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on February 13, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
Does the Sapphire Preferred WMC have foreign exchange fees?
No
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on February 14, 2012, 05:54:28 PM
Does the Sapphire Preferred WMC have foreign exchange fees?
If yes, what no-annual fee cards have no foreign exchange fees?
Thanks alot!

I don't think Chase has any cards with no forex and no annual fee.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: netzih on February 15, 2012, 11:00:27 PM
When going to mastercard.us and searching for world mastercard they have the sapphire preferred there if I use that link will that automatically sign me up for the world mastercard?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 16, 2012, 04:17:01 AM
When going to mastercard.us and searching for world mastercard they have the sapphire preferred there if I use that link will that automatically sign me up for the world mastercard?
Why not use Dan's link and then switch it after?
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on February 16, 2012, 04:23:45 AM
Why not use Dan's link and then switch it after?
I think his point is to avoid having to change it after he gets it
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: netzih on February 16, 2012, 04:41:44 AM
Why not use Dan's link and then switch it after?
I actually have the regular and when I called to change it to the mastercard they said no can do within the first year unless I downgrade.
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 16, 2012, 04:48:39 AM
I actually have the regular and when I called to change it to the mastercard they said no can do within the first year unless I downgrade.
HUCA. I just did it, it did take some persuading though.
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ashers on February 16, 2012, 06:09:03 AM
I actually have the regular and when I called to change it to the mastercard they said no can do within the first year unless I downgrade.
Call again
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on February 16, 2012, 11:20:50 AM
Why not use Dan's link and then switch it after?
And it's a great opportunity to get a whole bunch of free courtesy UR points as they seem to downgrade you in the process to non-preferred and then upgrade you.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: rots5 on February 22, 2012, 02:04:13 PM
the world master card switch is still good, i just received my Sapphire and called them to switch it to a WMC and it took litt. 3 min to do it and the rep said she will call back next week to get my address here in israel to ship it to me! thanks dan so much! another success story!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 22, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
the world master card switch is still good, i just received my Sapphire and called them to switch it to a WMC and it took litt. 3 min to do it and the rep said she will call back next week to get my address here in israel to ship it to me! thanks dan so much! another success story!
You prob. don't have to wait until next week. If the account is open already then you can call reg. SP CS and they can send it now. (It will most likely take close to 2 weeks for it to get here.)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 23, 2012, 02:03:28 AM
the world master card switch is still good, i just received my Sapphire and called them to switch it to a WMC and it took litt. 3 min to do it and the rep said she will call back next week to get my address here in israel to ship it to me! thanks dan so much! another success story!

questions :
I assume will not get another 50k points the way you did it ?
 i assume if u down  grade and reapply  -- it  is the only way to get another 50k ?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 23, 2012, 04:13:18 AM
questions :
I assume will not get another 50k points the way you did it ?
 i assume if u down  grade and reapply  -- it  is the only way to get another 50k ?
It's a two step process. Step one change your card from visa to MC, step two reapply for the visa and get your second 50k. No need for any downgrading.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on February 23, 2012, 04:40:32 AM
Quote from: rd link=topic=13281.msg189556#msg189556 date=13299406(It will most likely take close to 2 weeks for it to get here.)
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It actually takes 4 days untill it arrives. They always send it UPS AIR EXPRESS! Done it many times already!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 23, 2012, 05:34:54 AM
You might want to redo that post^.

Iv'e done it a few times  too and it took close to 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on February 23, 2012, 09:49:23 AM
You might want to redo that post^.

Iv'e done it a few times  too and it took close to 2 weeks.

Is if SP out of use for that period?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 23, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
It actually takes 4 days untill it arrives. They always send it UPS AIR EXPRESS! Done it many times already!

Is if SP out of use for that period?

When I said 2 weeks it was in reply to being sent to Israel, I'm not sure how Jkhein got it so fast. When I did the switch over they did not close the first one right away (to paraphrase the CSR, we wouldn't want to leave you stranded even one day without a CC that would be terrible), I'm not sure when they did as the new card came pretty quickly to my US address and I started using the new number right away.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on February 23, 2012, 11:49:22 AM
Would I have an easier time getting approved for another SP Visa if I offered to close and transfer the CL from my Saph WMC to the new SP Visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 23, 2012, 01:12:26 PM
Is if SP out of use for that period?
No, the visa still works for a while. Also if they downgrade you to the NP sapphire and then upgrade you, then the old sapphires will still work. Between 3 AU's and three incarnations of my card I have 9 cards accessing the same account.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on February 23, 2012, 01:16:32 PM
No, the visa still works for a while. Also if they downgrade you to the NP sapphire and then upgrade you, then the old sapphires will still work. Between 3 AU's and three incarnations of my card I have 9 cards accessing the same account.

Ha.

I just got off the phone with them. They told me:

If we can do it, you'll receive a letter from us in the mail. If we can't we'll let you know within 24 hours.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on February 23, 2012, 01:52:24 PM
Seems like some agents do it right away and others are just clueless :/
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Netster on February 23, 2012, 02:06:16 PM
Do you lose your CSP UR points when converting to MW?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on February 23, 2012, 02:17:10 PM
I'm gonna guess no :P
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: njmacman on February 23, 2012, 02:44:10 PM
No.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Netster on February 24, 2012, 08:12:12 AM
THanks, Also is there an annual fee on the CSPMW card as there is on the Visa? when you convert accounts does it start a new free first year?

Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on February 24, 2012, 09:32:01 AM
THanks, Also is there an annual fee on the CSPMW card as there is on the Visa? when you convert accounts does it start a new free first year?

Yes. No.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ae123 on February 25, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
It's a two step process. Step one change your card from visa to MC, step two reapply for the visa and get your second 50k. No need for any downgrading.

I already downgraded my SP Visa to NP (Non-Preferred) Visa. I couldn't switch to WMC because my year was almost up and I would have gotten billed the annual fee, as I assume converting from SP Visa to WMC will not restart a free first year. (Am I wrong?).

Anyway, can I re-apply for SP Visa now that I downgraded to a NP Visa?
If yes, how long after the downgrade should I wait?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 26, 2012, 12:18:13 PM
I already downgraded my SP Visa to NP (Non-Preferred) Visa. I couldn't switch to WMC because my year was almost up and I would have gotten billed the annual fee, as I assume converting from SP Visa to WMC will not restart a free first year. (Am I wrong?).
Nope, you are correct.

Anyway, can I re-apply for SP Visa now that I downgraded to a NP Visa?
If yes, how long after the downgrade should I wait?

Thanks!

Someone else will have to answer this one as I have no experience with it.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ae123 on February 26, 2012, 03:13:25 PM
Thanks for the reply. Hopefully, someone can answer my other question.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jblack on February 27, 2012, 01:34:14 PM
any one know how long to wait for reapply?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 27, 2012, 04:31:54 PM
any one know how long to wait for reapply?

Once the card is switched there's no reason to wait.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on February 27, 2012, 11:52:56 PM
i tried this AM to make my visa into a mc. the rep told me that there is a new rule that they dont do it anymore. only visa's now.
true or stupid rep?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on February 28, 2012, 01:10:22 AM
did chase catch on that fast?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: yitzf on February 28, 2012, 01:19:18 AM
Anyway, can I re-apply for SP Visa now that I downgraded to a NP Visa?
If yes, how long after the downgrade should I wait?

Thanks!
I've done it, although there was a long while in between
got the SP right when it came out (3-4 yrs ago?)with a 25k bonus, after a year downgraded, then got a new SP (and 50k bonus) about 6 months ago
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on February 28, 2012, 10:59:47 AM
I got mine switched to plain Saph WMC last week, but still haven't received my new WMC card in the mail.

Can I apply again for the Visa SP now or should I wait until I get my WMC Saph in the mail?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on February 29, 2012, 09:38:56 AM
How long did it take other people who switched to get their Saph WMC? I called on Feb 22nd to switch and I still haven't received mine.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on February 29, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
I called today to switch Sapphire Preferred to Sapphire WMC. it is not preferred. also we will lose foriegn transaction fee for free, it is now 3%, we will lose 7% annual bonus. Card number will get changed, so need to change things on line where it is direct monthly charging. Also we will lose benefit of transferring any points to any airlines, so if you have points accumulated, then transfer to continental or united or any other airline you wish, before to switch to WMC. you benefit on this one is, there is no annual fee. you can reapply for Sapphire preferred visa are 2 most important benefits. it is not a preferred version. needed to get thru 2 reps to find this one who will do it, as first one replied in negative for conversion. final one told me to call in 2 days again to request them to overnight the card, as new number was not generated, they could not overnight today. hence she asked me to call after 2 days then request overnight. otherwise normal process to get it is 7-10 business days, so basically, it can take 2 weeks. I suggest just call them and ask them to overnight it. they will do it at no extra charge. I now assume, that once we get WMC, we can re-apply for Sapphire Preferred VISA and take advantage of 50000 bonus points.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on February 29, 2012, 10:08:01 PM
I got my plain Sapphire WMC today and activated it. Is there any reason to wait now or can I go ahead and re-apply for SP Visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 03, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
How long did it take for your guys sapphire mirror accounts to disappear from your Chase online profile after you switch from Visa to WMC? I don't want to apply for the SP Visa while it shows that I have two sapphires due to the mirror account.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on March 03, 2012, 01:39:51 PM
How long did it take for your guys sapphire mirror accounts to disappear from your Chase online profile after you switch from Visa to WMC? I don't want to apply for the SP Visa while it shows that I have two sapphires due to the mirror account.

It's been a few months and i'm still seeing mine.There is no need to worry I got my second approved as soon as it switched.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 03, 2012, 01:51:57 PM
Got instant approval, thanks Chase  ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on March 03, 2012, 03:49:25 PM
Got instant approval, thanks Chase  ;D
Nice! It's good to hear that the system will automatically approve a SP card when there is one still open.
Did you submit more than one app, or just the SP?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 03, 2012, 04:00:12 PM
Just the SP. I already have a Freedom and Ink Bold, and I'm not comfortable doing a 3BM after the recent Chase horror stories.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ashers on March 03, 2012, 04:06:44 PM
Called to change over our Chase sapphire preferred visa cards (mine + spouses) to WMC
Mine came and it was a WMC Chase sapphire preferred. Spouses came as a plain WMC chase Sapphire.
I called to complain they said no such thing you have to be a car member for at least a year to get switched to the WMC proffered.
Called about 4 times. I did manage to get whole bunch of points for the "inconvenience"  but still no luck with switching over.
Is it worth the fight? or just let it fly until I wait a few and re-apply for the visa Sapphire preferred?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 03, 2012, 06:15:58 PM
I got changed to a plain sapphire WMC, I think it helped with my instant approval of my SP Visa today.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jack12 on March 06, 2012, 02:59:55 PM
I got them to change my sapphire preferred visa to a sapphire preferred world mastercard. Once I got the wmc, activated it, and the visa was taken off my account and just the wmc was there, I applied for the visa again but got denied (when I called they said that they didn't even do a credit pull) automatically because I already have a sapphire card.

Any suggestions? If I ask them to switch my preferred wmc to a non preferred wmc, would I then be able to get approved for the visa again? The rep said that if I have ANY sapphire card (preferred or not), I won't be able to apply for another sapphire card.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 06, 2012, 04:08:08 PM
It's been a few months and i'm still seeing mine.There is no need to worry I got my second approved as soon as it switched.
so you can apply for the visa while its still doing the mirror thing?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on March 06, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
so you can apply for the visa while its still doing the mirror thing?

WOW, I don't know how many times I've answered this both in the forum and PMs. YES, you can apply for it once it switches over.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 06, 2012, 04:25:59 PM
sorry thank you just wanted to be sure b4 i do this.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: oldguy on March 06, 2012, 11:08:28 PM
is it possible to have all 4 sapphire cards sp vs sp wmc and s vs and s wmc?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 06, 2012, 11:24:22 PM
Doubtful, why would you even want 4
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: oldguy on March 06, 2012, 11:29:19 PM
to get all the bonuses. i have already 3, both sp and s visa
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on March 06, 2012, 11:30:40 PM
to get all the bonuses. i have already 3, both sp and s visa

What's the bonus on the regular sapphire - (non- preferred )?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on March 06, 2012, 11:31:54 PM
What's the bonus on the regular sapphire - (non- preferred )?
25k
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on March 06, 2012, 11:33:27 PM
25k

Why would someone waste a pull/spot in a 3bm,  on that?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: oldguy on March 06, 2012, 11:38:49 PM
i have 6 chase cc so i change as many as i want never hade any prob.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jack12 on March 07, 2012, 05:05:32 PM
I got them to change my sapphire preferred visa to a sapphire preferred world mastercard. Once I got the wmc, activated it, and the visa was taken off my account and just the wmc was there, I applied for the visa again but got denied (when I called they said that they didn't even do a credit pull) automatically because I already have a sapphire card.

Any suggestions? If I ask them to switch my preferred wmc to a non preferred wmc, would I then be able to get approved for the visa again? The rep said that if I have ANY sapphire card (preferred or not), I won't be able to apply for another sapphire card.

Thanks in advance

does anyone know the answer to this?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on March 10, 2012, 11:25:59 PM
i would like to know if any has definitive info as to whether or not the sign up bonus of 50k is avail again if i convert my SP to a WMC and re-apply for the SP??
Was this answered already?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: shulemw on March 11, 2012, 06:06:05 PM
can anyone tell me how long after you close your sapphire card you can sign up another time and get your bonus signup points another time
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 11, 2012, 06:25:51 PM
does anyone know the answer to this?
first of all, thats not true: you can have both, the reg sapphire and the SP. Second, if they didnt even do a pull, why not reapply again and try have the luck many ppl on this thread had?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jack12 on March 11, 2012, 07:22:28 PM
first of all, thats not true: you can have both, the reg sapphire and the SP. Second, if they didnt even do a pull, why not reapply again and try have the luck many ppl on this thread had?

I applied twice so far. Both times, the exact same thing happened. it said decision pending. I called up and they said that the application was automatically denied because I already have a sapphire card. (and therefor, they never pulled my credit). I guess I can keep trying... but it seems like the system knows and will keep catching it. I don't know why the next time should be any different...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on March 11, 2012, 07:25:42 PM
I applied twice so far. Both times, the exact same thing happened. it said decision pending. I called up and they said that the application was automatically denied because I already have a sapphire card. (and therefor, they never pulled my credit). I guess I can keep trying... but it seems like the system knows and will keep catching it. I don't know why the next time should be any different...

The sapphire that you currently have, its a regular sapphire,  or a sapphire preferred?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jack12 on March 11, 2012, 07:27:06 PM
The sapphire that you currently have, its a regular sapphire,  or a sapphire preferred?

sapphire preferred master card
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jack12 on March 11, 2012, 07:28:20 PM
I applied twice so far. Both times, the exact same thing happened. it said decision pending. I called up and they said that the application was automatically denied because I already have a sapphire card. (and therefor, they never pulled my credit). I guess I can keep trying... but it seems like the system knows and will keep catching it. I don't know why the next time should be any different...

I see that dan posted here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8398.msg196341#msg196341 that at first they told him that he can't have 2 sp but he called credit analyst and got it approved so I guess I will try that
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on March 11, 2012, 07:32:03 PM
sapphire preferred master card

Well then you should reread meshugeners post. He said that its possible to have both
1) sapphire
2) sapphire preferred


Either way, it is possible to have two preferreds.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 11, 2012, 08:31:59 PM
Given your rare problems, I suggest you should first downgrade your SP and apply again. See what happens.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 12, 2012, 07:15:03 AM
ok before i do this i just want to make sure itll work: i converted my SP card to a WMC and would like to now apply for the visa again. has anyone does this already and gotten the 50k bonus again??. looks like i read that you will prob have to speak to analyst to get it approved bc they see u have a sp card already. im sorry in advance if somewhere in this thread this was discussed
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 12, 2012, 09:19:42 AM
I converted from SP Visa to plain WMC and then got instant approved for a new SP Visa.

YMMV
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on March 12, 2012, 09:21:48 AM
I called and asked to convert. They put in a request and said ill be contacted, how long does it take to get it?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on March 12, 2012, 09:43:26 AM
I called and asked to convert. They put in a request and said ill be contacted, how long does it take to get it?

7-10 business days IME.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on March 12, 2012, 09:48:55 AM
7-10 business days IME.
will they call me?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on March 12, 2012, 10:40:41 AM
will they call me?

Not IME.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 13, 2012, 09:14:15 AM
any answers?
ok before i do this i just want to make sure itll work: i converted my SP card to a WMC and would like to now apply for the visa again. has anyone does this already and gotten the 50k bonus again??. looks like i read that you will prob have to speak to analyst to get it approved bc they see u have a sp card already. im sorry in advance if somewhere in this thread this was discussed
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 13, 2012, 11:40:33 AM
Has anyone who has gotten a new SP recently noticed that it's not nearly as heavy as the ones they were sending out a year ago? The heft is gone, disappointing :(
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ashers on March 13, 2012, 11:55:17 AM
Has anyone who has gotten a new SP recently noticed that it's not nearly as heavy as the ones they were sending out a year ago? The heft is gone, disappointing :(
yup. I notices that and so did my   grocery store...   :P
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on March 13, 2012, 11:57:48 AM
Has anyone who has gotten a new SP recently noticed that it's not nearly as heavy as the ones they were sending out a year ago? The heft is gone, disappointing :(
Does your new card say Preferred on it?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 13, 2012, 12:06:41 PM
Does your new card say Preferred on it?

Yeah it's a preferred. I still have my old Visa SP before I converted it to a WMC.

I weighed them both on a scale and the new SPs they are sending out are definitely less heavy.

Shame on you Chase!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on March 14, 2012, 02:07:32 AM
I converted my SP VISA to Sapphire WMC  regular. applied SP VISA again. didnt got automatic approval. message is processing. called them after 3-4 days. lady told me, they will not give me SP, as I already have it. I said, I dont have SP. it is regular sapphire MC. she told me you just converted from preferred to no fee card. we will not give you again. if you want I will upgrade it back. I said no. told her dont do anything and hung up. called next day got another lady. she said application is in process. no decision yet. it can take 2-4 weeks. Any suggestion what is going on? I right now have only 2 Chase card. 1 WMC and other is United. any advise is appreciated.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 10:05:00 AM
How long does it take the 50K sapphire points after you reached the spending goal.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 14, 2012, 10:50:26 AM
End of billing cycle
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2012, 11:18:54 AM
End of billing cycle
Or end of 2nd billing cycle.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 14, 2012, 11:24:33 AM
Just my experience. Maybe/probably it depends on how early in the first cycle you complete the spending req.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 12:52:24 PM
It was early in the cycle and I was told by CS that it would show after statement is paid.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 14, 2012, 01:04:38 PM
It has nothing to do with your payment
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: oldguy on March 14, 2012, 01:30:13 PM
usally if the charge posts 1 or 2 days before the end of the billing cycle you see it on that statement.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on March 14, 2012, 01:36:43 PM
usally if the charge posts 1 or 2 days before the end of the billing cycle you see it on that statement.

That's for the actual charge, the discussion here is for the 50k bonus points.

As told to me by a rep who "claimed" to know the system the threshold has to be met at least 5 days before the end of the cycle.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: oldguy on March 14, 2012, 01:44:03 PM

As told to me by a rep who "claimed" to know the system the threshold has to be met at least 5 days before the end of the cycle.
My $3000 once posted about 2 days before the end of the billing cycle and i got it that month.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aj26 on March 16, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
I've read through the forum and am confused. Can we still switch over to a WMC and keep preferred status or is this dead? I tried callign and was told the card needs to be open for a year.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on March 16, 2012, 10:48:36 AM
People on this thread have done it within the last 30 days, if that helps. You may want to HUCA.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aj26 on March 16, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
Just got my new visa in mail yesterday. Is it worth getting 50K first and than switching over or can I switch first
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on March 16, 2012, 01:30:59 PM
Any solid info on how long it took to get the 50K after a cycle was completed
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 16, 2012, 01:34:11 PM
I got it on my first statement, as already discussed above, it may depend on how close to statement date you meet the spending req
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on March 16, 2012, 03:51:57 PM
I called and asked them to convert it, when I look online now it shows I have 2 saphires? Is this how it works?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 16, 2012, 10:01:19 PM
yep
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 17, 2012, 03:37:07 PM
I called and asked them to convert it, when I look online now it shows I have 2 saphires? Is this how it works?
you can hid ethe visa account so you dont see the mirror affect online.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 17, 2012, 04:28:34 PM
How do you do that?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on March 17, 2012, 05:35:04 PM
You can customise account/show/hide accounts from your online profile.
Obviously not going to hide it from chase themselves.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on March 18, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
You can customise account/show/hide accounts from your online profile.
Obviously not going to hide it from chase themselves.

How?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: TC610 on March 18, 2012, 01:01:07 PM
How?

In your list of accounts, in the upper right hand corner is an option for "Customize Accounts".  One of the options is show/hide accounts.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on March 18, 2012, 01:19:18 PM
In your list of accounts, in the upper right hand corner is an option for "Customize Accounts".  One of the options is show/hide accounts.

Awesome. Thanks.

I had Chase remove my extra SP when I was on the phone with them for another matter.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 18, 2012, 03:43:37 PM
so has anyone gotten already their second 50k bonus on a visa after having the msw?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on March 19, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
A Chase SP rep I spoke with when I activated my card told me that the Visa has NPSL.

+1
I just spoke to a rep and she confirmed that my visa SP is a NPSL card.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: oldguy on March 19, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
I spoke today to a chase Supervisor today and she told me that you cant get a SP wmc when you have a visa i convinced her to try it and she came back and said that it didn't work any point trying a different Supervisor or could it be that the rules changed because originally i had 3 chase freedoms and now somebody tried to get 2 again & again and it didn't work)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on March 20, 2012, 02:12:52 PM
I spoke today to a chase Supervisor today and she told me that you cant get a SP wmc when you have a visa i convinced her to try it and she came back and said that it didn't work any point trying a different Supervisor or could it be that the rules changed because originally i had 3 chase freedoms and now somebody tried to get 2 again & again and it didn't work)

would downgrading to a reg sapphire allow me to re-apply for a SP and get the bonus?
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on March 20, 2012, 02:24:11 PM
I've read through the forum and am confused. Can we still switch over to a WMC and keep preferred status or is this dead? I tried callign and was told the card needs to be open for a year.
Same question
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 20, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
Why do ppl keep on asking the same question again and again? In some cases you can, and if not just leave them downgrade and when you receive the new WMC, upgrade back to preffered.
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on March 20, 2012, 04:52:45 PM
Why do ppl keep on asking the same question again and again? In some cases you can, and if not just leave them downgrade and when you receive the new WMC, upgrade back to preffered.

Thanks. You can always upgrade back I'm assuming?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 20, 2012, 04:59:06 PM
I have never tried doing that, but this is exactly what ppl here in this thread reported. I think they called back and said they were told it'll remain preferred, so the downgrade is a mistake.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on March 21, 2012, 01:27:42 PM
Dan thanks for your post on Sapphire today.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: good sam on March 21, 2012, 03:04:19 PM
Here's a thought:

For those who currently have some form of Sapphire (even SP) and want to apply for another SP try to go into a branch and ask a banker to push it through for you.  I believe they get some kind of commission for signing customers up for credit cards.  I once did this years ago with a Freedom card when I already had a one.  Downside: No 3bm, but it might be worth it to get another crack at 50k before it goes away.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2012, 03:07:59 PM
Just apply online yourself and call Recon/Credit Analyst and you will get it if you try in earnest.

Even if you still can't get it after repeated calls to multiple departments and after offering to close cards or shift lines (hard to believe after that that you aren't approved) you can still go into a branch and have a banker fill out a special recon form for you.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: good sam on March 21, 2012, 03:25:04 PM
good to know
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 21, 2012, 03:47:27 PM
But for the special form you need to have a very high balance in your Chase checking account.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
But for the special form you need to have a very high balance in your Chase checking account.
YMMV.  They can do it even without $10K in the account, but they don't have to.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on March 21, 2012, 03:49:43 PM
But for the special form you need to have a very high balance in your Chase checking account.

I'm not sure what you consider "very high" but 10k is sufficient.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 21, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
It prob depends on the banker. A very nice banker once told me he cant do it for less than $20k, my friend just did after a absolute no-go with recon and C analy, and they asked him $15k, B"H it went thru.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jack12 on March 23, 2012, 06:36:09 PM
Just apply online yourself and call Recon/Credit Analyst and you will get it if you try in earnest.

Even if you still can't get it after repeated calls to multiple departments and after offering to close cards or shift lines (hard to believe after that that you aren't approved) you can still go into a branch and have a banker fill out a special recon form for you.

I did everything except going to the banker yet still got denied due to too many recent inquiries and not long enough credit. I don't have $10k in my chase account
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on March 23, 2012, 06:54:16 PM
Borrow from a friend.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 25, 2012, 04:31:05 PM
JUST FYI opening a SP visa while having a SP WMC can be done but its def not 1..2..3. takes alot of calling and convincing and rejection. That was my experience at least but did get it approved in the end somehow.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bruce on March 26, 2012, 01:54:30 AM
I was stupid and didn't read these postings before i did the following...

I currently have the SP Visa. I just applied for the SP MasterCard. (I thought they are two totally separate cards and that it would work no problem)

I received a pending.

What can I expect?

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on March 26, 2012, 08:03:02 AM
I was stupid and didn't read these postings before i did the following...

I currently have the SP Visa. I just applied for the SP MasterCard. (I thought they are two totally separate cards and that it would work no problem)

I received a pending.

What can I expect?

Any ideas?

how did u even apply fora SP MC didnt even know they offered it. u have prob been declined
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 26, 2012, 09:34:04 AM
JUST FYI opening a SP visa while having a SP WMC can be done but its def not 1..2..3. takes alot of calling and convincing and rejection. That was my experience at least but did get it approved in the end somehow.

I converted from Visa to WMC on my SP and was then instant approved for a new SP Visa.

It's always YMMV with this stuff.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on March 26, 2012, 01:31:36 PM
Online im still showing the Saphire Preferred and the Saphire Preferred mastercard. I called chase and they said both cards are still active.
Should I wait to apply until the SP falls off my account or I can apply now ?
Anyone have this too?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on March 26, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
JUST FYI opening a SP visa while having a SP WMC can be done but its def not 1..2..3. takes alot of calling and convincing and rejection. That was my experience at least but did get it approved in the end somehow.
would it be better to cancel the world mastercard and apply for the visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on March 26, 2012, 02:25:20 PM
also it took me 5 times calling to get them to make my SP a WMC.

what excuses have worked for people for needing 2 SP's???
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on March 26, 2012, 02:29:52 PM
also it took me 5 times calling to get them to make my SP a WMC.

what excuses have worked for people for needing 2 SP's???

Online did it show both saphires, when you applied?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on March 26, 2012, 03:16:40 PM
Online im still showing the Saphire Preferred and the Saphire Preferred mastercard. I called chase and they said both cards are still active.
Should I wait to apply until the SP falls off my account or I can apply now ?
Anyone have this too?

They told me that too, but when I pressed the rep she did some research and realized it was a mirror account.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on March 26, 2012, 03:31:20 PM
Online did it show both saphires, when you applied?

no i had a SP visa, just turned it into WMC today.
is it better to apply for visa SP while having the WMC or cancel it and apply the next day for the visa SP?

If not, what possible excuses to people have for needing 2 SP's
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on March 30, 2012, 02:27:20 PM
just put i my request to switch from SP visa to SP WMC...first call was answered in Springfield MO and CS said can't be done if acct was open less than a yr (mine is open 6 months). thanked her and hung up, hit redial and CS was from a diff call center (too muffled to make out the location) and he was more than happy to help me with minimal questions why i wanted to do this...i casually mentioned that I have SP visa and Freedom visa with chase and that I was looking to diversify with a WMC.  Less than 3 mins later, order was processed and was advised my new SP WMC will arrive in 5-7 days!!

No indication if it will be SP WMC or the non-pref WMC....either way, i figure I'm good for a new SP visa now to lock in the fleeting 50k offer.... 8)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on March 31, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
If I still didnt receive the bonus yet as I didn't yet reach $3000 , by converting it will I still get the bonus ?
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 12:16:41 AM
I applied for the chase sapphire MASTERCARD.  I already have the VISA.

They sent me a letter to call them.

I called and was told this:
You cannot have 2 sapphire PREFERRED cards. Although there are differences between the VISA and MASTERCARD, they still fall under one category.

The option she gave me was to downgrade the VISA to not PREFFERED and then they would consider my MasterCard application.

Any thoughts?

Please answer soon as they are removing the 50k offer.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 12:20:46 AM
I applied for the chase sapphire MASTERCARD.  I already have the VISA.

They sent me a letter to call them.

I called and was told this:
You cannot have 2 sapphire PREFERRED cards. Although there are differences between the VISA and MASTERCARD, they still fall under one category.

The option she gave me was to downgrade the VISA to not PREFFERED and then they would consider my MasterCard application.

Any thoughts?

Please answer soon as they are removing the 50k offer.

Did you get the visa bonus already , if so what are you losing by downgrading?
Also how did you apply directly for the mastercard?
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 12:31:30 AM
Did you get the visa bonus already , if so what are you losing by downgrading?
Also how did you apply directly for the mastercard?

I applied for the MasterCard through the dansdeals link.

What I lose is that if my MasterCard gets denied then I won't have PREFFERED.

But mainly the question is, is what she is saying true ? I can't have 2 visa. PREFFERED?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on April 01, 2012, 12:35:30 AM
I applied for the MasterCard through the dansdeals link.

What I lose is that if my MasterCard gets denied then I won't have PREFFERED.

But mainly the question is, is what she is saying true ? I can't have 2 visa. PREFFERED?
?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 12:36:14 AM
I applied for the MasterCard through the dansdeals link.

What I lose is that if my MasterCard gets denied then I won't have PREFFERED.

But mainly the question is, is what she is saying true ? I can't have 2 visa. PREFFERED?
You could have both but it takes some convincing and could take more than a few tries. Maybe the recon debt can downgrade the visa and at the same time approve you for the MC.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 12:40:39 AM
I applied for the MasterCard through the dansdeals link.
AFAIK there is no mastercard link.You probobally applied for the visa again , which is why you got denied
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 12:43:17 AM
AFAIK there is no mastercard link.You probobally applied for the visa again , which is why you got denied

I think it said MasterCard.

I didn't get denied. They didn't even process (pull my credit) because of the issue. They sent a letter that I should call to discuss it.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 12:47:46 AM
I think it said MasterCard.

I didn't get denied. They didn't even process (pull my credit) because of the issue. They sent a letter that I should call to discuss it.

Call again, you should get it through. Do you have the link for the MC? Just wondering why people are converting first if you can just apply directly for the mastercard.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on April 01, 2012, 12:50:20 AM
Call again, you should get it through. Do you have the link for the MC? Just wondering why people are converting first if you can just apply directly for the mastercard.

To support DDF.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 12:55:37 AM
To support DDF.
I applied for the MasterCard through the dansdeals link.

Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on April 01, 2012, 12:57:41 AM
To support DDF.
I applied for the MasterCard through the dansdeals link.

He's clearly making a mistake, either about it being a DDF link, or (more likely) about it being a MC link.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on April 01, 2012, 12:58:50 AM
I applied for the MasterCard through the dansdeals link.

DDF doesn't have a MC link.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 01:01:12 AM
I remember seeing one.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on April 01, 2012, 01:06:00 AM
I remember seeing one.

There was a link here to a 50k APP for the SP WMC, but it was clearly not a DDF link.
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 01:11:31 AM
I did the dansdeals link for sure. 

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/20630
(http://img.tapatalk.com/18bc8a0a-e37f-70b0.jpg)

Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 01:16:04 AM
When I press that link it directs me to the same page as the visa link. Both links take you to http://www.dansdeals.com/go/sapphire50k/
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on April 01, 2012, 01:38:15 AM
I did the dansdeals link for sure. 

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/20630
When I press that link it directs me to the same page as the visa link. Both links take you to http://www.dansdeals.com/go/sapphire50k/

(http://i41.tinypic.com/15n51r8.jpg)
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 10:05:13 AM
(http://i41.tinypic.com/15n51r8.jpg)
I was gonna explain this in my previous post but figured you'd read carefully ;)

HE converted his card, it doesn't mean you can't apply directly for one.

And the link is misleading...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: zale on April 01, 2012, 10:15:52 AM
I currently have a SP Visa (have it for about 8 months now...). If I want to get in on the 50k offer now, what is my best option?

If I cancel today and reapply tomorrow, will that work? (I.e. is the "30 day rule" between applications, or even between cancelling and reapplying?)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 10:22:26 AM
I was gonna explain this in my previous post but figured you'd read carefully ;)

HE converted his card, it doesn't mean you can't apply directly for one.

And the link is misleading...

The link you used though takes you to the same visa app. How did you apply for the MC.Also any luck getting approved?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on April 01, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
I was gonna explain this in my previous post but figured you'd read carefully ;)

HE converted his card, it doesn't mean you can't apply directly for one.

And the link is misleading...

??? ???
I noticed that last night when you posted it, but didn't bother posting bec you seemed very convinced (read: confused) that you applied for the mc.

DDF never a MC link and you therefore used a visa link - unless you used a public link.
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 10:27:30 AM

??? ???
I noticed that last night when you posted it, but didn't bother posting bec you seemed very convinced (read: confused) that you applied for the mc.

DDF never a MC link and you therefore used a visa link - unless you used a public link.

Again the link says MC.
Again i applied through dansdeals

That's all
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 10:34:41 AM
Its possible that the link was for a mastercard but was taken off. Let us know if you get approved for it.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on April 01, 2012, 10:46:47 AM
Again the link says MC.
Again i applied through dansdeals

That's all

Again,  you're confused  ::)
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Ergel on April 01, 2012, 10:57:35 AM
Again,  you're confused  ::)
And stubborn
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 11:34:57 AM
And stubborn

+1 saver2000 is definitely stubborn.

He's not explaining anything but just sticking to his guns ;)

PS welcome to the conversation. A hello would be more appropriate :)
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 11:36:36 AM
Again,  you're confused  ::)
Please EXPLAIN (not restate your posts)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jack12 on April 01, 2012, 11:37:44 AM
I had a visa preferred which I got converted to a mc preferred. Applied for visa preferred. app pending. called up and rep said if I cancel my mc, he will approve my visa app (and confirmed I will get 50k signup bonus). So did it. At same time, he had to call me back a few times because his computers were down so I got a few thousand extra UR points for the trouble :)

thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 11:53:17 AM
Please EXPLAIN (not restate your posts)
Its possible the link used to be for a mastercard before. I just know that now it takes you to the same visa application. Did the letter say Mastercard?
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 12:30:39 PM
Its possible the link used to be for a mastercard before. I just know that now it takes you to the same visa application. Did the letter say Mastercard?
I got that now. All I said is that the link said MasterCard.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: zale on April 01, 2012, 12:31:00 PM
I currently have a SP Visa (have it for about 8 months now...). If I want to get in on the 50k offer now, what is my best option?

If I cancel today and reapply tomorrow, will that work? (I.e. is the "30 day rule" between applications, or even between cancelling and reapplying?)

My post got lost in a heated argument on the previous page, so I am reposting here...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 12:47:36 PM
I got that now. All I said is that the link said MasterCard.

You got what ? so you did apply for visa ? or the old link was for mastercard
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 02:21:10 PM
You got what ? so you did apply for visa ? or the old link was for mastercard
Apparently there is no real MasterCard link. It's a visa hence I had the issue.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on April 01, 2012, 02:25:56 PM
Apparently there is no real MasterCard link. It's a visa hence I had the issue.

There is but Dan doesn't have one.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
There is but Dan doesn't have one.

But even so would that technically work ? Because I haven't heard anyone succesfully applied & approved for both?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Side incomer on April 01, 2012, 02:53:11 PM
But even so would that technically work ? Because I haven't heard anyone succesfully applied & approved for both?
I did, and I still have 2 Sapphire preferred cards.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on April 01, 2012, 03:00:38 PM
But even so would that technically work ? Because I haven't heard anyone succesfully applied & approved for both?

You can have both, I did it for my wife. I got her the visa through Dan's link and about 2 months later had it switched to a MC and reapplied for the visa.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 01, 2012, 03:05:54 PM
I'm saying using the mastercard link, not sure if that would work.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Side incomer on April 01, 2012, 03:06:44 PM
I'm saying using the mastercard link, not sure if that would work.
Worked for me using the Master link.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 01, 2012, 03:18:42 PM
Worked for me using the Master link.

You're saying you applied using the master link while you had a SP Visa and it worked, and so now you have 2 SP?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Side incomer on April 01, 2012, 03:21:59 PM
You're saying you applied using the master link while you had a SP Visa and it worked, and so now you have 2 SP?
Yep.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bruce on April 01, 2012, 05:07:51 PM
Just want to make sure that I am on the right track here.

I applied for the mastercard SP (I thought it was a separate link) and received a letter that I already have the VISA SP (now I understand that there is no such app for a MC SP and that the VISA needs to be transferred over). I called Chase and they told me that (since I am not a cardholder for a year) they can downgrade my SP to a regular Sapphire that will now be a mastercard, and then I can call back recon and get my VISA SP put through 

Does that sound right?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 01, 2012, 05:52:52 PM
On with CS now. Downgraded my visa preferred and was transferred back to get the MC preferred aprroved, now they tell me it was a visa application and they can only aprroved it as a visa (would I get the bonus points???

Update:

They changed my visa back to preferred and changed it to MC and approved me for a visa preferrred so now I have 2 SP's :) + they gave me 5,000 points for hassle (I asked them for it :))

She confirmed 50k bonus as well
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 02, 2012, 09:25:42 AM
Saw this morning that Daraius from millionmilesecrets.com is blogging about this now and mentioning Dan Deals in his posts.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Walk On the Ocean on April 02, 2012, 12:14:47 PM
If I still didnt receive the bonus yet as I didn't yet reach $3000 , by converting it will I still get the bonus ?
Wondering the same... Anyone know?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Side incomer on April 02, 2012, 12:26:09 PM
Saw this morning that Daraius from millionmilesecrets.com is blogging about this now and mentioning Dan Deals in his posts.
Although he seems not to know what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 02, 2012, 12:31:35 PM
Although he seems not to know what he's talking about.
Lets hope he doesn't.
You were able to get the bonus on the MC?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Side incomer on April 02, 2012, 12:33:13 PM
Lets hope he doesn't.
You were able to get the bonus on the MC?
Yes. and everybody I know got the 2 cards, and had finished their first statement got the bonus twice.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on April 02, 2012, 01:22:18 PM
Yes. and everybody I know got the 2 cards, and had finished their first statement got the bonus twice.

Aryeh1 asked if Dan got a bonus on the MC. I believe the answer is no .

He got the bonus on his 2nd visa card. He did not get the bonus after spending 3k after the conversion.
Dan, CMIIW.
 
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
Aryeh1 asked if Dan got a bonus on the MC. I believe the answer is no .

He got the bonus on his 2nd visa card. He did not get the bonus after spending 3k after the conversion.
Dan, CMIIW.
 
I actually haven't spent $3K on the MC after conversion.
I guess I should try though.  Has anyone else?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 02, 2012, 01:27:29 PM
Although he seems not to know what he's talking about.

+1

He likes to kill deals for the sake of getting more readers.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 02, 2012, 02:11:41 PM
I actually haven't spent $3K on the MC after conversion.
I guess I should try though.  Has anyone else?

the rep told me i would get the 50k after spending 3k
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2012, 02:12:59 PM
the rep told me i would get the 50k after spending 3k
Reps say lots of things, as does my 8 month old.  Mostly gibberish, though soon hopefully my child will say words that make sense.

I'm looking for actual experience.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 02, 2012, 02:23:34 PM
Reps say lots of things, as does my 8 month old.  Mostly gibberish, though soon hopefully my child will say words that make sense.

I'm looking for actual experience.
lol, spoke to an escalation manager beucase of all the complications that happened. she said that i would get a letter confirming all the info....i'll keep you posted
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on April 02, 2012, 02:29:26 PM
I actually haven't spent $3K on the MC after conversion.
I guess I should try though.  Has anyone else?

Doubtful. Have you ever gotten signup points after conversion?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: eli1571 on April 02, 2012, 04:20:51 PM
hi just spoke to a whole bunch of chase rep's today and they all told me that mc discontinued the car rental insurance in israel and that currently they dont hav any card that covers u in israel, anyone know 100% otherwise ?
(posted in a diff thread but really belongs here sorry)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2012, 06:16:19 PM
hi just spoke to a whole bunch of chase rep's today and they all told me that mc discontinued the car rental insurance in israel and that currently they dont hav any card that covers u in israel, anyone know 100% otherwise ?
(posted in a diff thread but really belongs here sorry)
Nothing to do with Chase. 
Master Rental provides coverage, call them.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: eli1571 on April 02, 2012, 08:29:28 PM
Nothing to do with Chase. 
Master Rental provides coverage, call them.
got a contact number ?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: newtothegame on April 02, 2012, 08:48:17 PM
I had a chase sapphire preferred visa, and applied for a 2nd 1 with intent to call recon and ask them to approve me for a sapphire preferred mc.

The first 2 times I called I was denied because "i already had a sapphire visa".. finally i got through to a nice cs rep. i explained by i wanted a mc version even though i already had a visa one. I also didn't want to push my luck so i offered off the bat to move around credit.. at the end, she offered me 5k additional credit and approved me for the sapphire mc version!!!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on April 02, 2012, 09:00:13 PM
got a contact number ?

I think its 1-800-MCASSIST
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: RANDOMONE on April 03, 2012, 10:02:56 AM
spoke to master rental 2day. they are covering israel. as well as the rest of the world on CDW
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on April 03, 2012, 10:18:48 AM
spoke to master rental 2day. they are covering israel. as well as the rest of the world on CDW

Really now?!   ;)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bruce on April 03, 2012, 05:17:45 PM
I moved my SP VISA over to a regular Sapphire MC, and applied for a new SP VISA.

I of course received a letter that they would not grant me a new SP because I already have a Sapphire.

I called recon and the second CSR agreed to issue me another SP Visa if we can take 5k off of the new MC.

I agreed.

She did however warn me that if I am  doing this for the promo there will not be a bonus promotion for the new SP VISA since I already acquired one on the MC.

I went ahead with it anyway.

Did anyone get such a response?

Can I assume that a secure message after I spend 3k will do the trick to get me the bonus?

Any ideas how to deal with this?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 03, 2012, 05:24:28 PM
She was probably trying to scare you, first time I've heard someone say that.

Besides Dan already said he got his bonus posted after doing the same thing, converting, applying for new SP, etc
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 03, 2012, 05:33:36 PM
Am I the only one who got instant approved for a new SP Visa after converting my old SP to WMC?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bruce on April 03, 2012, 05:45:09 PM
I hope it was just a scare tactic otherwise I'm wasting a 3k spend.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on April 03, 2012, 06:01:08 PM
I remember reading somewhere on DDF such a story on a different Chase card, was told that they'll appprove him if he agree to give up on the bonus, he said okay, then he did the spending and got the bonus automatically without any need to ask for it.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: chaimmayer on April 03, 2012, 08:14:52 PM
MMV (my miles varied)
 I PUTPAC asking them to convert my SP visa to a mastercard and I was told that you need to have had the card for a year.  No problem, I HUCA and got the same answer two more times.  The fourth time I got someone who was sympathetic who told me she would make a request and they would let me know in 2 weeks.  The fifth time the rep told me, "Yes, I see you already made a request- we'll let you know"
At that point I gave up :(
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bruce on April 03, 2012, 10:16:10 PM
MMV (my miles varied)
 I PUTPAC asking them to convert my SP visa to a mastercard and I was told that you need to have had the card for a year.  No problem, I HUCA and got the same answer two more times.  The fourth time I got someone who was sympathetic who told me she would make a request and they would let me know in 2 weeks.  The fifth time the rep told me, "Yes, I see you already made a request- we'll let you know"
At that point I gave up :(

Yea I agree.

I personally am comfortable to push to a certain point and then I will leave it alone.

My whole mehalech since I got into this (thanks Dan!!) is slow and steady, nothing on impulse, very conservative.

I've done really well!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: bruce on April 03, 2012, 10:16:53 PM
I remember reading somewhere on DDF such a story on a different Chase card, was told that they'll appprove him if he agree to give up on the bonus, he said okay, then he did the spending and got the bonus automatically without any need to ask for it.

That's what Im banking on. Thanks for your feedback.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 03, 2012, 10:33:03 PM
This is pretty much dead!
The guy at reconsideration told me they were called into a meeting today about it ,that they can't approve a 2nd sapphire as its the same product.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 03, 2012, 10:58:35 PM
This is pretty much dead!
The guy at reconsideration told me they were called into a meeting today about it ,that they can't approve a 2nd sapphire as its the same product.

Ouch :(
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 03, 2012, 10:59:50 PM
Ouch :(
Yep.. I just missed the train
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 03, 2012, 11:15:07 PM
Do what Saver2000 did and apply for the SP WMC through MasterCard's website
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Ergel on April 03, 2012, 11:25:06 PM
That's what Im banking on. Thanks for your feedback.
It was me and that is what happened
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 03, 2012, 11:34:49 PM
Do what Saver2000 did and apply for the SP WMC through MasterCard's website
How would that help ? I applied already for the sapphire and currently have a sapphire so I could only have 1- they dont care that one is MC & other Visa.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on April 03, 2012, 11:44:39 PM
Do what Saver2000 did and apply for the SP WMC through MasterCard's website

What are you referring to may I ask?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on April 04, 2012, 10:53:17 AM
How would that help ?

+1
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on April 04, 2012, 11:15:17 AM
This is pretty much dead!
The guy at reconsideration told me they were called into a meeting today about it ,that they can't approve a 2nd sapphire as its the same product.

Never believe a CS rep. I just hung up the phone with recon and had a second SP opened.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: PETERP on April 04, 2012, 02:20:54 PM
Never believe a CS rep. I just hung up the phone with recon and had a second SP opened.


+1  Chase gave me wrong info at least twice and Amex once .
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on April 04, 2012, 02:25:54 PM
Did you need to explain why you needed 2 SP visas
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on April 04, 2012, 02:39:07 PM
Never believe a CS rep. I just hung up the phone with recon and had a second SP opened.

how did you explain needing two of the same card?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on April 04, 2012, 06:28:53 PM
how did you explain needing two of the same card?

Simple, I need both cards for international use (no forex fee) and some stores only take visa and only MCW covers car rental ins. in Israel.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on April 04, 2012, 07:24:15 PM
My question is they still see my orig SP visa still (didn't switch over in system) so CS question to me was why do I need 2 SP visas?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 04, 2012, 07:28:27 PM
Did anyone try spending 3k on the converted MC to see if it would give you the bonus again?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: jasonz9238 on April 05, 2012, 01:38:30 AM
I currently have the SP visa, has anyone applied for the sapphire card directly from the mastercard.com link and gotten approved for the SP mastercard?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: yitzf on April 05, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
If I need to sacrifice my WMC SP to get approved for the SP Visa do I need to transfer out my UR points first?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on April 05, 2012, 01:33:57 PM
I currently have the SP visa, has anyone applied for the sapphire card directly from the mastercard.com link and gotten approved for the SP mastercard?

Yes.

If I need to sacrifice my WMC SP to get approved for the SP Visa do I need to transfer out my UR points first?

Yes.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: yitzf on April 05, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
If I need to sacrifice my WMC SP to get approved for the SP Visa do I need to transfer out my UR points first?
Yes.
Thanks,
Can it be done on the phone with recon or I should do it even before I start trying to get the SP Visa recon'd
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on April 05, 2012, 01:54:05 PM
Thanks,
Can it be done on the phone with recon or I should do it even before I start trying to get the SP Visa recon'd

Recon won't do it they'll transfer you. What I did was tell the recon rep. to wait a minute while I logged on and did it myself.

To make a long story short, in my case for some reason the transfer didn't work online so I hung up with recon and called reg CS and had them transfer it plus a 2500 bonus for the hassle. When I called back I got approved without having to close the card in the end.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: good sam on April 09, 2012, 12:41:38 AM
Success Story:

I have recently been of the opinion that if the app status says 2 weeks, don't call recon and let it play out itself.  My approvals last week affirm my belief.   I did a 2bm (resulting in 2 pulls :() for Ink Bold and Sapphire Preferred (shortly after switching my first to WMC but before upgrading the WMC to Preferred).  Both of the applications were pending  :( but said 2 weeks  :).  I exercised control and did not call.  I was approved for both in due course, no questions asked 8).  It is hard to wait it out, but I believe it's worth it.  Calling, IME, calls attention to things they might not notice in the regular approval process.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: TC610 on April 09, 2012, 12:32:40 PM
I did a 2bm (resulting in 2 pulls :() for Ink Bold and Sapphire Preferred

The frown tells me you were expecting something different to happen other than 2 pulls.  It's been reported plenty of times that with Chase, mixing business cards with personal cards will result in 2 pulls.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: chaimmayer on April 16, 2012, 09:43:23 PM
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I had no success changing my sp visa to a mastercard -everyone i spoke to said that they can't do it since I need to have the card for a year before making any changes.  I figured the only way to chap arein and get the 50k bonus was to go to the mastercard site and just apply for a sp mastercard.  I felt guilty about not using Dan's link but since he didn't have a link for a mc and there was no other way to do it I figured it was the only way.
Anyway i got a rejection letter stating that I can't have a mastercard because I already have an sp (visa) and since it's the same product you can't have two of them.  I tried recon and huca again and again but they all told me it's impossible.  There is no way their system will allow them to let someone have two sp since they are the same product.
How did everyone manage to get around this?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 16, 2012, 09:49:28 PM
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I had no success changing my sp visa to a mastercard -everyone i spoke to said that they can't do it since I need to have the card for a year before making any changes.  I figured the only way to chap arein and get the 50k bonus was to go to the mastercard site and just apply for a sp mastercard.  I felt guilty about not using Dan's link but since he didn't have a link for a mc and there was no other way to do it I figured it was the only way.
Anyway i got a rejection letter stating that I can't have a mastercard because I already have an sp (visa) and since it's the same product you can't have two of them.  I tried recon and huca again and again but they all told me it's impossible.  There is no way their system will allow them to let someone have two sp since they are the same product.
How did everyone manage to get around this?
it sounds like they used to be more lenient
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on April 16, 2012, 10:05:01 PM
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I had no success changing my sp visa to a mastercard -everyone i spoke to said that they can't do it since I need to have the card for a year before making any changes.  I figured the only way to chap arein and get the 50k bonus was to go to the mastercard site and just apply for a sp mastercard.  I felt guilty about not using Dan's link but since he didn't have a link for a mc and there was no other way to do it I figured it was the only way.
Anyway i got a rejection letter stating that I can't have a mastercard because I already have an sp (visa) and since it's the same product you can't have two of them.  I tried recon and huca again and again but they all told me it's impossible.  There is no way their system will allow them to let someone have two sp since they are the same product.
How did everyone manage to get around this?
They definitely did become much stricter and maybe even updated their system, I had the same problem last week, untill they told me if I CLOSE my SP visa completely he will immediately approve the new SP MC, so i went for it!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: chaimmayer on April 16, 2012, 10:11:48 PM
they told me if I CLOSE my SP visa completely he will immediately approve the new SP MC, so i went for it!
that's basically what they told me but they insisted I pay off the balance first
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on April 16, 2012, 10:15:35 PM
Why didn't you try to downgrade the SP to a regular Sapphire, and then ask for the new SP, since its no longer the same product?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on April 16, 2012, 11:25:18 PM
Why didn't you try to downgrade the SP to a regular Sapphire, and then ask for the new SP, since its no longer the same product?
Wrong. Looks like with thee new restrictions this has also changed, I did try but was told by 8+ reps that they are both saphire products and no chance the system will not allow it, I even recieved a letter from Chase that due to having 2 sapphires I have been declined.
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 16, 2012, 11:35:42 PM
UPDATE:

I or approved for the VISA preferred and my old VI preferred that was suppose to get changed to MA preffered came as a reg. MasterCard. Escalated this to top people.. Will report.
(the last rep said that they can change visa to MasterCard at any time but from reg to preffered it's illegal within 12 months. You can't change the product. I asked her how did the previous rep change my old visa preffered... She had no idea and said it was illegal... Seems like we have a bunch of incompetents as well...)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Cbs on April 17, 2012, 04:54:56 AM
so bottom line, it doesnt work anymore? is it worth a shot (or the pull)?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on April 17, 2012, 09:15:58 AM
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I had no success changing my sp visa to a mastercard -everyone i spoke to said that they can't do it since I need to have the card for a year before making any changes.  I figured the only way to chap arein and get the 50k bonus was to go to the mastercard site and just apply for a sp mastercard.  I felt guilty about not using Dan's link but since he didn't have a link for a mc and there was no other way to do it I figured it was the only way.
Anyway i got a rejection letter stating that I can't have a mastercard because I already have an sp (visa) and since it's the same product you can't have two of them.  I tried recon and huca again and again but they all told me it's impossible.  There is no way their system will allow them to let someone have two sp since they are the same product.
How did everyone manage to get around this?
why not just sacrifice the visa to get the MC?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 17, 2012, 09:20:15 AM
Yeah I don't understand why people are complaining about keeping their Visa, or if they manage to switch to WMC, continue to complain because it's not a WMC Preferred.

You're going to cancel the card anyway due to annual fee, and the goal was to get another 50k bonus, so why does it matter?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: chaimmayer on April 17, 2012, 10:23:35 AM
Yeah I don't understand why people are complaining about keeping their Visa, or if they manage to switch to WMC, continue to complain because it's not a WMC Preferred.

You're going to cancel the card anyway due to annual fee, and the goal was to get another 50k bonus, so why does it matter?
Good point!  I guess I didn't think it through because I just was expecting different results.
Would I would have to move all my points to my freedom card first?  Should I first try to transfer the credit line and then deal with the mastercard app?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 19, 2012, 06:45:05 PM
Did anyone spend 3k on the converted MC to see if it gives the bonus again?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: njmacman on April 20, 2012, 07:48:13 AM
Yes, and yes.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2012, 08:59:53 AM
Yes, and yes.

Really? You converted a SP Visa, spent 3k, got 50K, then switched that card to a SP MC, spent another 3k, and got another 50K?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 20, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
I doubt it, he's probably confused
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 20, 2012, 10:43:12 AM
is anyone up to try it?
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 22, 2012, 11:09:10 PM
UPDATE:

I or approved for the VISA preferred and my old VI preferred that was suppose to get changed to MA preffered came as a reg. MasterCard. Escalated this to top people.. Will report.
(the last rep said that they can change visa to MasterCard at any time but from reg to preffered it's illegal within 12 months. You can't change the product. I asked her how did the previous rep change my old visa preffered... She had no idea and said it was illegal... Seems like we have a bunch of incompetents as well...)

My sapphire PREFERRED MasterCard Is arriving in the mail tomorrow
So now I have a visa preferred and MasterCard preferred. :)
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 22, 2012, 11:10:17 PM
is anyone up to try it?
I am going to try it this month. This week will charge 2k and hopefully by end of the month will have 3k. Will report
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on April 22, 2012, 11:16:17 PM
I am going to try it this month. This week will charge 2k and hopefully by end of the month will have 3k. Will report
Your spending on the converted SP? or the one that you just signed up for?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on April 23, 2012, 11:11:14 AM
update: after converting my first SP visa to WMC, called chase recon today twice to get a new SP Visa opened .  First call ended in a  quick "no can do" since (of course) cardholders are not allowed to have two of same cards (all DDFer's know that!). 

Promptly hung up within five seconds, hit redial and got reconsidered and approved for a new SP visa in less than 5 mins! looking forward to another round of 50k UR point bonus!!
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: WhyAich on April 23, 2012, 06:25:33 PM
Your spending on the converted SP? or the one that you just signed up for?
Converted. It was a SPVI the plain SVI then Plain SMC now SPMC :)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: chaimmayer on April 23, 2012, 09:31:35 PM
Well after I tried and tried  reocn still kept on telling me that it's impossible to have more than one type of SP so  I finally took compddd's advice
Yeah I don't understand why people are complaining about keeping their Visa, or if they manage to switch to WMC, continue to complain because it's not a WMC Preferred.

You're going to cancel the card anyway due to annual fee, and the goal was to get another 50k bonus, so why does it matter?
I closed my SP visa moved over the credit line to my freedom and got them to give me a SP mastercard.  It's not exactly a churn but it's the closest I've come so far.  Thank you everyone for your help.
The cherry on top was that when I was approved for the mastercard they gave me new credit and I didn't have to use the cl from my freedom.  I guess it's bal taschis to let a 15k cl sit on one card and I ought to apply for some new cards soon.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: U-no-me! on April 30, 2012, 05:11:44 PM
Did anyone spend 3k on the converted MC to see if it gives the bonus again?

Yes and No

GL
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: chaimmayer on April 30, 2012, 05:45:40 PM
Got my sp MasterCard in the mail today!  No more visa but who caress :)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on April 30, 2012, 07:37:10 PM
OK GOT A Q FOR THE DDF VETS
i had a SP visa for almost a year now. i called to convert it to a WMC. Very long story short,  (after like 20 calls) they did it but downgraded me to reg Sappire (3 separate times) and now they positively claim that a WMC SP is in the mail.
almost 30 days ago i applied 3bm for SP, United and Hyatt. I called many times and no one will approve 3 new cards in 30 days. They keep offering to close another account. Now the only card I could close is the SP WMC.
Does it pay to get the SP WMC and hope to be one of the lucky one's to get 50k after first purchase, or call in offer to close the SP WMC in order to get the hyatt approved?
basically, take the chance for 50k of take my 2 free nights at hyatt and run?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on April 30, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
Why do you care if your WMC is SP or not? You're not going to pay the annual fee so it doesn't make a difference. Close it and get the SP Visa approved for another 50k.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on April 30, 2012, 08:32:39 PM
Right before the SP bonus was reduced to 40K, I applied for it again being that my current SP is a WMC and I was hoping to be able to get it. They sent me a letter saying they were unable to process it since I already have a SP. As Dan and others successfully did, I tried calling a few different depts. but no luck. Most recently, I tied the Credit Analyst dept 3 times in a rows but they all say they can't make me a second one if I already have one, even if one's a WMC and one's a VS. I had no luck arguing with them, I told them I can name people with 2 active SP accounts but they insisted there is no way of them pushing it through.
Am I out of options? Should I just give up? Or would anyone recommend a few more HUCA attempts?
BTW, they never pulled my credit
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on April 30, 2012, 10:00:51 PM
Why do you care if your WMC is SP or not? You're not going to pay the annual fee so it doesn't make a difference. Close it and get the SP Visa approved for another 50k.
bec if im going to have one of them, i want it to be a wmc
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: chaimmayer on April 30, 2012, 11:33:47 PM
bec if im going to have one of them, i want it to be a wmc
Is it worth 50k in points?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on May 01, 2012, 12:40:03 AM
Is it worth 50k in points?
no what i was saying is that i already have one visa and one wmc. the question was, do i cancel the wmc and take the hyatt or keep the wmc on the chance that i might get a 50k bonus?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on May 01, 2012, 02:30:28 AM
no what i was saying is that i already have one visa and one wmc. the question was, do i cancel the wmc and take the hyatt or keep the wmc on the chance that i might get a 50k bonus?

Unless you need the WMC for spending, go for the Hyatt. The (definite) Hyatt signup bonus is better than the longshot 50k on the SP WMC (which I highly doubt you'll get), ברי ושמא, ברי עדיף...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on May 01, 2012, 09:10:54 AM
Unless you need the WMC for spending, go for the Hyatt. The (definite) Hyatt signup bonus is better than the longshot 50k on the SP WMC (which I highly doubt you'll get), ברי ושמא, ברי עדיף...

hyatt has annual fee?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on May 01, 2012, 09:12:32 AM
Right before the SP bonus was reduced to 40K, I applied for it again being that my current SP is a WMC and I was hoping to be able to get it. They sent me a letter saying they were unable to process it since I already have a SP. As Dan and others successfully did, I tried calling a few different depts. but no luck. Most recently, I tied the Credit Analyst dept 3 times in a rows but they all say they can't make me a second one if I already have one, even if one's a WMC and one's a VS. I had no luck arguing with them, I told them I can name people with 2 active SP accounts but they insisted there is no way of them pushing it through.
Am I out of options? Should I just give up? Or would anyone recommend a few more HUCA attempts?
BTW, they never pulled my credit

Offer to close the WMC to get the SP approved?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on May 01, 2012, 11:27:22 AM
hyatt has annual fee?

$75, but I think they now also have a statement credit to offset that (seems that requires an SM) and you get the AF credited if you cancel within 30 days.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: arid on May 02, 2012, 08:33:51 AM
$75, but I think they now also have a statement credit to offset that (seems that requires an SM) and you get the AF credited if you cancel within 30 days.
isnt canceling a card so soon after signing up bad for you credit? doesnt average length of account play a factor?
Unless you need the WMC for spending, go for the Hyatt. The (definite) Hyatt signup bonus is better than the longshot 50k on the SP WMC (which I highly doubt you'll get), ברי ושמא, ברי עדיף...
uh, uh, you're sayin good. say better
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on May 02, 2012, 09:32:13 AM
The account ages for ~10 years before falling off your CR, even if closed.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Platinum on May 06, 2012, 03:11:58 AM
I applied for the mc sapphire got  it approved thru recon by closing my visa sapphire but was told that I will not get the bonus points being that I had the visa already. Any chance I will still get the points?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on May 06, 2012, 03:14:13 AM
I applied for the mc sapphire got  it approved thru recon by closing my visa sapphire but was told that I will not get the bonus points being that I had the visa already. Any chance I will still get the points?

If you got approved for a new app/card, and the app had a signup bonus, you can expect to get that bonus when you fulfill the (spend) requirements.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on May 06, 2012, 03:54:17 AM
I applied for the mc sapphire got  it approved thru recon by closing my visa sapphire but was told that I will not get the bonus points being that I had the visa already. Any chance I will still get the points?
You will. I did, like many others.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on May 06, 2012, 04:19:33 AM
Offer to close the WMC to get the SP approved?

I'm not (primarily) after the sign-up bonus, I wanted to have 2 SP, also I can't shut down the WMC as I bought electronics on it and I want to have the extra year warranty
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: koctail on May 11, 2012, 02:17:50 PM
maybe i am missing something, but what is the advantage of trying to apply for the MC SP when you still have the Visa SP versus cancelling the Visa and then trying to sign up for the MC SP. My Visa SP is coming up soon for renewal and Id rather not pay annual fee, cancel and try for the MC SP.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on May 11, 2012, 02:37:43 PM
maybe i am missing something, but what is the advantage of trying to apply for the MC SP when you still have the Visa SP versus cancelling the Visa and then trying to sign up for the MC SP. My Visa SP is coming up soon for renewal and Id rather not pay annual fee, cancel and try for the MC SP.

Leverage. 

Many times they won't approve you for an additional cc bec
A) You have to many open cards
B) chase isn't willing to give you more credit.

So when you call recon (to get the new cc pushed through) and offer to close an existing cc and move over the CL, it takes care of both of those problems.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: koctail on May 11, 2012, 04:17:59 PM
Leverage. 

Many times they won't approve you for an additional cc bec
A) You have to many open cards
B) chase isn't willing to give you more credit.

So when you call recon (to get the new cc pushed through) and offer to close an existing cc and move over the CL, it takes care of both of those problems.

i dont see how this is really leverage. cancelling a card before applying for another also reduces the # of open cards and reduces my credit exposure with Chase. right now i have 3 chase personal cards including the visa sp. i have heard that anything more than 3 personal cards is pushin it with chase. is this true?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Platinum on May 11, 2012, 05:19:55 PM
i dont see how this is really leverage. cancelling a card before applying for another also reduces the # of open cards and reduces my credit exposure with Chase. right now i have 3 chase personal cards including the visa sp. i have heard that anything more than 3 personal cards is pushin it with chase. is this true?
I as well as many others have more then 3 cards open with chase. As said many times if they don't want to extend more credit or you have to many open cards offer to transfer some credit or close a account.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on May 14, 2012, 02:32:49 PM
I got my MC in the mail today.

Will the visa not work anymore once I activate the MC?

 
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on May 14, 2012, 02:35:18 PM
I got my MC in the mail today.

Will the visa not work anymore once I activate the MC?

for some reason my old visa and new MC are lonked toegher instead of them closing the visa...it's also same UR acct...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on May 14, 2012, 02:36:39 PM
for some reason my old visa and new MC are lonked toegher instead of them closing the visa...it's also same UR acct...

Did you use the visa? I'm trying to find out if the visa will still work for purchases. . .
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on May 14, 2012, 02:37:55 PM
Did you use the visa? I'm trying to find out if the visa will still work for purchases. . .
it does for me
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on May 14, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
it does for me

Thanx
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: asks on May 14, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
Thanx
altough i dont use it since i reapplied and got a new SP VISA
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on May 14, 2012, 07:54:02 PM
it does for me

+1, yeah, it'll work, even if it is removed from your online profile.

It's like their inextricably linked.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: mneuman on May 15, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
+1, yeah, it'll work, even if it is removed from your online profile.

It's like their inextricably linked.

Will having the Visa and MC linked prevent one from getting the bonus for their MC after the min spend?  Has anyone gotten the bonus again with linked accounts?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2012, 03:20:47 PM
Will having the Visa and MC linked prevent one from getting the bonus for their MC after the min spend?  Has anyone gotten the bonus again with linked accounts?

No one AFAIK has gotten the bonus again for spending 3K on a converted SP MC.

Many have gotten the bonus again for converting to MC and reapplying for SP Visa.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: mneuman on May 15, 2012, 03:34:47 PM
No one AFAIK has gotten the bonus again for spending 3K on a converted SP MC.

Many have gotten the bonus again for converting to MC and reapplying for SP Visa.

Ok thanks.  I guess then I have to call, have them cancel the Visa and then reapply for another Visa. 
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2012, 03:40:31 PM
Wrong move.

Either apply directly for SP MC or convert your VISA to MC and then apply for SP Visa.

If needed use recon to close first SP to get second SP pushed through.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: mechayamom on May 15, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
I am confused with all of these acronyms.
I have a Sapphire Preferred Visa that has just hit the year so the annual fee is due.
I have transferred all my points to my Ink Bold off of the Sapphire Preferred VISA.

I would like to get a Sapphire Preferred Mastercard so I can take advantage of the CDW in Israel.
I applied for the Sapphire Preferred MasterCard and was turned down because I can't have two Sapphire Preferred Products.

I have a reference number that I can call recon with.
What is the best way to go about this?

Is there a way to cancel the Sapphire Preferred Visa, and move the credit line to a new Sapphire Preferred MasterCard, while still qualifying for the bonus ultimate reward points?

What would be your recommendation as to how to proceed?
I would love to hit the bonus points again somehow.
Thanks so much
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on May 15, 2012, 04:48:48 PM
I am confused with all of these acronyms.
I have a Sapphire Preferred Visa that has just hit the year so the annual fee is due.
I have transferred all my points to my Ink Bold off of the Sapphire Preferred VISA.

I would like to get a Sapphire Preferred Mastercard so I can take advantage of the CDW in Israel.
I applied for the Sapphire Preferred MasterCard and was turned down because I can't have two Sapphire Preferred Products.

I have a reference number that I can call recon with.
What is the best way to go about this?

Is there a way to cancel the Sapphire Preferred Visa, and move the credit line to a new Sapphire Preferred MasterCard, while still qualifying for the bonus ultimate reward points?

What would be your recommendation as to how to proceed?
I would love to hit the bonus points again somehow.
Thanks so much
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: mechayamom on May 15, 2012, 05:11:27 PM
Will it qualify for the bonus miles again if I hit the spend limit?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on May 15, 2012, 06:00:42 PM
Will it qualify for the bonus miles again if I hit the spend limit?
On the new card yes, but not on the converted one.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: moko on May 15, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
interesting story-
i tried converting to mcw for ins. in israel and kept getting this garbage about 1st year...federal reg... bla.bla.bla...
so i applied for the mcw (with dans link of course) get denied for already having the same product call recon. and they tell me that cant have to of the same product but i wanted to get rid of my UA personal and biz due annual fees and an upcoming apporama
and wanted to keep the sp visa due to warranty- so she tells me that i can have both sp's if i use one them for biz. i say ok. and she approves it. i then ask her if she could do this if they were both visa, and she says sure as long as on is for per. and the other for biz. and went on to explain that some people like using personal cards for biz but like to keep expenses separate (right ;))
if what she told me is accurate this could be a huge bonus,
think for ex: UA 2 personal- 1 biz same for swa and all other chase cards
pretty sweet
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on May 16, 2012, 02:56:49 AM
interesting story-
i tried converting to mcw for ins. in israel and kept getting this garbage about 1st year...federal reg... bla.bla.bla...
so i applied for the mcw (with dans link of course) get denied for already having the same product call recon. and they tell me that cant have to of the same product but i wanted to get rid of my UA personal and biz due annual fees and an upcoming apporama
and wanted to keep the sp visa due to warranty- so she tells me that i can have both sp's if i use one them for biz. i say ok. and she approves it. i then ask her if she could do this if they were both visa, and she says sure as long as on is for per. and the other for biz. and went on to explain that some people like using personal cards for biz but like to keep expenses separate (right ;))
if what she told me is accurate this could be a huge bonus,
think for ex: UA 2 personal- 1 biz same for swa and all other chase cards
pretty sweet

lol hope you got down her name
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on May 16, 2012, 06:27:49 AM
lol hope you got down her name

You think you can just call recon and ask to be transferred? Good luck...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on May 16, 2012, 07:01:00 AM
You think you can just call recon and ask to be transferred? Good luck...
I've done that once, they are all in the same department , but sometimes different hours
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lcyitz on May 16, 2012, 10:14:06 PM
I got a sapphire preferred than i converted, reapplied for the visa, met the spending req. and now i see i have 3,029 Points available, so does that mean im not getting the bonus or it will take some time? ( my due date is 06/08/2012)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2012, 10:33:10 PM
I got a sapphire preferred than i converted, reapplied for the visa, met the spending req. and now i see i have 3,029 Points available, so does that mean im not getting the bonus or it will take some time? ( my due date is 06/08/2012)
It often posts on the 2nd statement.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on May 17, 2012, 12:18:43 AM
It often posts on the 2nd statement.

really? I always got on 1st
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on May 17, 2012, 03:04:48 AM

really? I always got on 1st

Iv'e gotten it on the second. It depends how close to the statement  closing date you reach the threshold.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: aryeh1 on May 17, 2012, 03:33:14 AM
Iv'e gotten it on the second. It depends how close to the statement  closing date you reach the threshold.
how close do you have to reach it?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on May 17, 2012, 04:11:23 AM
how close do you have to reach it?

The question is how far. Iv'e heard at least 5 business days before the statement closes.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on June 06, 2012, 06:29:38 AM
I will admit to not reading through the whole thread, but would appreciate help none the less.

Besides for perhaps receiving a bonus for Chase messing up the transfer, what is the benefit of converting the Visa into WMC and reapplying for a Visa, rather than just applying for a WMC? If anything, I can see a stronger argument for being approved for the WMC (due to Israel coverage) than being approved for the Visa, which I wouldn't know what to say to customer service.

Any help?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on June 06, 2012, 08:14:43 AM
AFAIK these days are over, no more 2 sapphire cards for one person.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on June 06, 2012, 10:27:19 AM
I will admit to not reading through the whole thread, but would appreciate help none the less.

Besides for perhaps receiving a bonus for Chase messing up the transfer, what is the benefit of converting the Visa into WMC and reapplying for a Visa, rather than just applying for a WMC? If anything, I can see a stronger argument for being approved for the WMC (due to Israel coverage) than being approved for the Visa, which I wouldn't know what to say to customer service.

Any help?

No difference. The argument can be made either way.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on June 06, 2012, 03:37:16 PM
No difference. The argument can be made either way.

So are they still allowing 2 cards, or is Meshugener correct?
Also, what are the arguments for Visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on June 06, 2012, 11:51:37 PM
So are they still allowing 2 cards, or is Meshugener correct?

Yes, for special people.

And, wait, is he ever right?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on June 07, 2012, 01:54:02 AM
Yes, for special people.

And, wait, is he ever right?

Yes, for special people.???? like only from Dans?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on June 07, 2012, 02:05:31 AM
Yes, for special people.???? like only from Dans?

Well, logically speaking:

People with both SPs = special
...
Dan = person with both SPs
...
then Dan = special.

But, no, not like only Dan.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on June 07, 2012, 09:19:15 AM
I had both SPs until I closed one recently to open a UA MPE

I guess I'm special too
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on June 07, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
I had a SP and sapphire till a week ago, but I got both of them before the crackdown.
Title: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: lcyitz on June 07, 2012, 12:28:18 PM
I still have a sapphire and a preferred anything to be worried about?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on June 07, 2012, 12:29:35 PM
I had a SP and sapphire till a week ago, but I got both of them before the crackdown.

Two SPs ≠ sapphire and SP.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on June 07, 2012, 02:06:43 PM
They're cracking down both of them.
Nothing to worry if you have them, am just sayin they won't (easily) approve it anymore.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on June 07, 2012, 02:54:40 PM
They're cracking down both of them.
Nothing to worry if you have them, am just sayin they won't (easily) approve it anymore.

Which crackdown? The A/A mess? That wasn't a week ago.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on June 07, 2012, 03:55:48 PM
Not the A/A wave, and I didn't say it begun a week ago either.
Lately they're making a real hard time to get approved for two of the same type of product. For example: SP + reg Sapphire, or, SP Visa + SP WMC.
Used to be very easy till like 2 months ago.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on June 07, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
I have SP VISA and Sapphire regular MC. I have churned my SP a few times this year. I plan to churn it again. regular thing. transferring SP lien to another card, canceling it and applying again. I had last done it 2 motnhs ago. Is it going to be possible again now? is it too soon? any guidance before I call and transfer line or cancel will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
Go for it.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ae123 on June 07, 2012, 04:21:31 PM
Go for it.
How long after converting SP Visa to SP (or non-preferred) MC can I re-apply for SP Visa and get the sign-up bonus?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2012, 04:25:03 PM
There is no time limit.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ae123 on June 07, 2012, 04:30:23 PM
There is no time limit.
I can re-apply immediately?!  :o
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 07, 2012, 04:32:29 PM
I can re-apply immediately?!  :o

Just make sure you have a plausible reason for reopening a card you just closed.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on June 07, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
Will I miss my 7% bonus next Feb for this SP, if I cancel and reapply another one?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2012, 04:39:33 PM
Will I miss my 7% bonus next Feb for this SP, if I cancel and reapply another one?
Yes, though that's likely much smaller than a new signup bonus.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on June 07, 2012, 04:48:40 PM
Last questions. Any way to get 50K miles bonus of SP? Even after applying thru SM or offer code or any way? just 2 months back, when I had applied, I still got 50K for me and my wife both. now it appears like 40K, as best bet.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: ae123 on June 07, 2012, 04:59:59 PM
Just make sure you have a plausible reason for reopening a card you just closed.
Any ideas of what to say?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 08, 2012, 03:44:01 AM
Any ideas of what to say?
Thanks.

Use your imagination. Iv'e said things like, I realized it was a mistake to close the card as it had such great benefits such as x, y, and z and I really miss it.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on June 08, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
I just got my  credit line TXF from SP to Sapphire regular and got it closed. it was painful "selling" process by rep to keep it open and making us feel bad, that it is just opened for 2 months and you got bonus etc.... to asking us to keep it open. Any easy suggestion on getting CL TXF and closing account without going thru the rep and closing process? Can we just do it using Secured Message?

Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2012, 03:08:43 PM
Instead of doing that use the card as leverage to get approved for more cards.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on June 08, 2012, 05:30:43 PM
May be I dont get it. How can I leverage open SP card as leverage to get approval for another SP card? I think I have to Txf my CL. then close it. then reapply another SP. isnt that normal process? I always do the same all for churnable cards.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2012, 05:32:48 PM
Nope, apply for a Visa or MC (whichever you don't have) and have them close the old one (have a good reason ready)
Links for either are here: http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=8028.0
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: john on June 08, 2012, 05:37:06 PM
But I had Sapphire MC as well as SP VISA. so I Txf VISA CL. closed Visa. now will reapply.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on June 09, 2012, 05:15:53 PM
Silly question. If the SP is canceled to open up a new one, do the points have to be moved to the Ink Bold account, or are they automatically linked, and n/t will be lost if the SP is canceled?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: PETERP on June 09, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
I would move points. I had 5 K AU that had not posted when I closed one card to open anotjer and never got the 5 K.
Did not want to ask and draw attention
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: deze on June 15, 2012, 09:03:11 AM
I applied for the sp wmc through the link on your website and received the visa. I called a couple of times and one person told me that i have to close my account and re-apply. the next person told me that it can only be changed after a year? How can i get the card changed?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on June 15, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
I applied for the sp wmc through the link on your website and received the visa. I called a couple of times and one person told me that i have to close my account and re-apply. the next person told me that it can only be changed after a year? How can i get the card changed?

HUCA, you need to explain you want the same card but with a MC logo for spend at mechants that only accept that.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on June 15, 2012, 09:47:31 AM
HUCA, you need to explain you want the same card but with a MC logo for spend at mechants that only accept that.
Do you recommend applying over the phone or through a link
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on June 15, 2012, 09:57:45 AM
Do you recommend applying over the phone or through a link

I'm not sure what you're asking since your quoting my response to deze who isn't applying for a new card.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on June 15, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
@AsherO its not the same card with a different logo, they would need to change the card number.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: AsherO on June 15, 2012, 10:06:14 AM
@AsherO its not the same card with a different logo, they would need to change the card number.

Same card as in Sapphire Preferred > Sapphire Preferred.

I'm aware they'll change the number. AFAIK the old Visa card/number will still work as well (and show up online/on statement with the MC transactions).
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2012, 10:34:47 AM
I applied for the sp wmc through the link on your website and received the visa. I called a couple of times and one person told me that i have to close my account and re-apply. the next person told me that it can only be changed after a year? How can i get the card changed?
Huh? Where did you apply.
In the OP of this post there are options for both versions.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: rcarentals on June 15, 2012, 10:37:16 AM
Huh? Where did you apply.
In the OP of this post there are options for both versions.
someone else i am helping applied for both on your  website too, and both ended up being visa...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2012, 10:40:16 AM
someone else i am helping applied for both on your  website too, and both ended up being visa...
Which link did they use?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: rcarentals on June 15, 2012, 12:21:55 PM
there was a post where you supplied both..
i think in the credit cards part of the main site.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: askmoses on July 01, 2012, 09:21:26 PM
there was a post where you supplied both..
i think in the credit cards part of the main site.
The links look the same... I want to do a 2bm before the United card offer is pulled... can you check the links? Seems to be the same card to me! I need a valid link to the MC...
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: askmoses on July 01, 2012, 11:00:10 PM
I googled around and found this link (I don't often link sites other then deals when I spot it, so if this is against the rules, mods please remove). Writes here the MC offer is pulled?!?! Anyone with info on this??
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2012/04/04/chase-sapphire-preferred-mastercard-now-offering-a-40000-point-sign-up-bonus/


I have tried incongnito to try both links from Dansdeals link for credit cards (top of main site)... on the links provided the pages look exactly the same for the SP Visa and SP MC. The URL does differ from them however. Is there a way to know if I'm filling the Visa app or the MC one? Please if you know of a clear link to MC let me know because I really want to do the 2bm before the United offer goes and Dan just said it'll be pulled sometime Monday yet he doesn't know when....
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Red on July 02, 2012, 06:52:00 AM
I googled around and found this link (I don't often link sites other then deals when I spot it, so if this is against the rules, mods please remove). Writes here the MC offer is pulled?!?! Anyone with info on this??
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2012/04/04/chase-sapphire-preferred-mastercard-now-offering-a-40000-point-sign-up-bonus/

That's an old link to the old 50k app and that's why it doesn't work, there always was a link for the MC if you knew where to look.

I have tried incongnito to try both links from Dansdeals link for credit cards (top of main site)... on the links provided the pages look exactly the same for the SP Visa and SP MC. The URL does differ from them however. Is there a way to know if I'm filling the Visa app or the MC one? Please if you know of a clear link to MC let me know because I really want to do the 2bm before the United offer goes and Dan just said it'll be pulled sometime Monday yet he doesn't know when....

The two links differ as the MC has DWMH and Visa DWMG. I know of a different site that has this card and it's 100% a MC, the link there is the same (besides the affiliate id) as the DWMH.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2012, 10:05:19 AM
The link on the DD site definitely works for a Mastercard.  At least it still did as of last week!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on July 02, 2012, 10:25:59 AM
I used it last week and it worked.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: askmoses on July 02, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
I was worried about what rcarentals said and about missing out on the United offer so I already 2bm with SW instead... Oh well... you think 30 days from now I can try the Sapphire MC and push it through using by closing my sapphire visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on July 02, 2012, 05:01:47 PM
I'm almost certain I signed up for the MC card, but when I called up recon, they told me I applied for the Visa card, which I already have. I explained to them why I need the MC, and she gave me the shpiel about not having both at the same time. And she told me she couldn't approve me for the MC since I didn't apply for it.

Any advice? Any chance that they'll give me the MC even if I applied for the VS? Or just chalk it up to my not being prepared, and just apply again in my next AOR?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: askmoses on July 02, 2012, 05:30:10 PM
I'm almost certain I signed up for the MC card, but when I called up recon, they told me I applied for the Visa card, which I already have. I explained to them why I need the MC, and she gave me the shpiel about not having both at the same time. And she told me she couldn't approve me for the MC since I didn't apply for it.
How long ago did you apply for the MC?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2012, 05:31:46 PM
My MC link definitely works for the MC. Already confirmed with multiple people.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: askmoses on July 02, 2012, 05:50:52 PM
My MC link definitely works for the MC. Already confirmed with multiple people.
Sounds good... I wish I hadn't balked and instead went for SW card.. BTW for some reason they only pulled from Experian and it only had my Freedom card listed?!?!?! Very weird as I had them pull up my other chase accounts... On my United app they did another pull to transunion and then elevated it for reconsideration. The agent was pretty confidant they would approve it as my transunion report had all my cards listed. I didn't want another Transunion pull for the Southwest Card so I offered up part of my SP line. They told me it should be fine and she would just need to double check it (because again they said my report only had one Freedom card listed with only 3-4 months of history) and they would call me back. Been 4 hours now and I haven't heard from them. Should I call back and try again for the Southwest?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on July 02, 2012, 08:04:07 PM
Just called Chase to get Sapphire MC was told that if you have Visa you have to wait a year to get the MC. I will HUCA.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on July 02, 2012, 10:55:04 PM
How long ago did you apply for the MC?
Last week (but they're saying it was the VS I applied for)
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on July 03, 2012, 06:59:29 AM
Just called Chase to get Sapphire MC was told that if you have Visa you have to wait a year to get the MC. I will HUCA.

when re-called--results?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on July 03, 2012, 07:26:29 AM
when re-called--results?
I will be calling today again and I will post results
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on July 03, 2012, 08:48:00 AM
I followed Dans advice did a HUCA and got a real nice person who said they will change the visa to a MC. I should be getting it in 5 to 7 days. Thanks Dan for your help.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on July 04, 2012, 05:25:58 AM
I'm almost certain I signed up for the MC card, but when I called up recon, they told me I applied for the Visa card, which I already have. I explained to them why I need the MC, and she gave me the shpiel about not having both at the same time. And she told me she couldn't approve me for the MC since I didn't apply for it.

Any advice? Any chance that they'll give me the MC even if I applied for the VS? Or just chalk it up to my not being prepared, and just apply again in my next AOR?

Let me try another tack.

Can anyone give me a reason that I can use to convince them to close my current VS and open up a new one? Maybe the extension of the no annual fee, but that just sounds cheesy.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Yitz on July 04, 2012, 07:30:27 AM
Let me try another tack.

Can anyone give me a reason that I can use to convince them to close my current VS and open up a new one? Maybe the extension of the no annual fee, but that just sounds cheesy.

Any ideas?
I told them I am traveling to a country were MC is accepted and Visa is not.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on July 04, 2012, 11:22:03 AM
I told them I am traveling to a country were MC is accepted and Visa is not.
To clarify. An argument why they should close the VS card and open a new VS card.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on July 04, 2012, 11:27:14 AM
Maybe that's a little late to do, but could work to add someone as a joint and say you were told the only way to remove is to close and apply again solely under your name. But that's a process that takes time.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Drago on July 04, 2012, 01:40:45 PM
Maybe that's a little late to do, but could work to add someone as a joint and say you were told the only way to remove is to close and apply again solely under your name. But that's a process that takes time.

Thanks for the ingenuity, but as you said, it'll take time.
Out of curiosity, is that true?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on July 04, 2012, 02:02:09 PM
Depends on which CSR you believe in...
Some say not possible, some say a hard pull, some say soft pull.
But they all seem to agree its impossible to move the credit limit from an account that has a joint acc holder, unless the (new) account you're transferring to is jointly holded by the same 2 persons. (something to take in mind before doing a favor for a friend who wants to build credit).
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on July 04, 2012, 03:54:13 PM
Depends on which CSR you believe in...
Some say not possible, some say a hard pull, some say soft pull.
But they all seem to agree its impossible to move the credit limit from an account that has a joint acc holder, unless the (new) account you're transferring to is jointly holded by the same 2 persons. (something to take in mind before doing a favor for a friend who wants to build credit).

I have moved credit from a joint account ( not speaking of a A.U.) to an individual account ,only thing required was to have other joint holder get on phone a say they agree-- did with chase and citi
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on July 04, 2012, 03:58:49 PM
I had no luck doing that with Chase.
Multiple HUCA, multiple depts.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on July 04, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
@SPLP
Citi? They don't allow joint account holders.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on July 04, 2012, 05:08:54 PM
My card with citi is 40 years old , maybe things have changed in 40 years? --- I even tried to cancel card by myself , could not do without other person agreeing -- and 2 show how simple and easy it was back in 1970 -- joint holder  does not have a social or even lives in the states --- I  assume today , can not get card without  s.s.# and states address --I guess in the future will need to be finger printed to get c.c. --PROGRESS!!!
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on July 04, 2012, 06:28:03 PM
Of course things have changed in the past 40 years (my father and I were born... [not really, but almost])
But with chase any one of the 2 account holders can close the account without having the other one on the line.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on July 04, 2012, 06:46:02 PM
Of course things have changed in the past 40 years (my father and I were born... [not really, but almost])
But with chase any one of the 2 account holders can close the account without having the other one on the line.

I tried a year ago , told joint requires all owners to agree .

just ot off the phone with chase --- policy on canceling card still requires all owners  to agree -- switching credit around "any" owner can do --so sounds like ur info is not the same -- i do not have time nor is it important enuf for me to look at t/c 
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 14, 2012, 01:34:20 PM
Can anyone provide a link that works for sapphire MasterCard I believe they took it off does anyone know of one that works?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on August 14, 2012, 01:40:43 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/SapphireWMC/
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 14, 2012, 02:02:13 PM
After filling in the application it says to me that this offer has expired any ideas?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on August 14, 2012, 02:11:34 PM
After filling in the application it says to me that this offer has expired any ideas?
Try another browser or incognito.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Mocha on November 05, 2012, 09:42:04 PM
I had the visa and changed it to the WMC and now I reapplied for the Visa but Chase doesn't have the application in the system. Could it have been bounced because I already have a Sapphire? Whats my immediate course of action? Should I quickly reallocate the existing credit on the WMC to another open card and reapply?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on November 06, 2012, 02:34:53 AM
I had the visa and changed it to the WMC and now I reapplied for the Visa but Chase doesn't have the application in the system. Could it have been bounced because I already have a Sapphire? Whats my immediate course of action? Should I quickly reallocate the existing credit on the WMC to another open card and reapply?

Can u still get a second Sapphire bonus by changing from Visa to Master card and reapply for visa?---

How long do u need to wait after switching from visa to master card ? to get visa with bonus , I thought I read that this was no longer possaible, hope I am wrong
Title: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: elibeli2 on November 07, 2012, 12:23:02 PM
Does anyone have any info if you can still get the Chase Sapphire Preferred  as a MASTER CARD?

All the links seem to stop working, you can't even get it on the master card website.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2012, 12:45:23 PM
You can apply for it as a Visa and have them switch it to a MC.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: elibeli2 on November 07, 2012, 12:48:17 PM
I understand that, but would you know why they pulled the master card application.

Could that meant they don't want to issue any Sapphire master cards?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2012, 12:50:28 PM
I understand that, but would you know why they pulled the master card application.

Could that meant they don't want to issue any Sapphire master cards?
I don't think it means that.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on November 07, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
You can apply for it as a Visa and have them switch it to a MC.

I have a visa its a card with a long history so i dont want to close it or change it, think they will open another visa if i tell them i want to change the new one to a mc?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: elibeli2 on November 07, 2012, 09:54:21 PM
I have a visa its a card with a long history so i dont want to close it or change it, think they will open another visa if i tell them i want to change the new one to a mc?

Why can't the new one you apply for be a MC?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: ckmk47 on November 07, 2012, 11:58:04 PM
What is the difference between the  Chase Sapphire Preferred  MASTER CARD and  Chase Sapphire Preferred  VISA?

I'm going to Israel soon, I have the  Chase Sapphire Preferred visa.  Isn't that the one I'm supposed to use there?  Does it provide CDW car insurance in Israel?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Saver2000 on November 08, 2012, 12:00:11 AM
What is the difference between the  Chase Sapphire Preferred  MASTER CARD and  Chase Sapphire Preferred  VISA?

I'm going to Israel soon, I have the  Chase Sapphire Preferred visa.  Isn't that the one I'm supposed to use there?  Does it provide CDW car insurance in Israel?
Nope. Only the MC does. Call chase and have them convert it to a MC.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: AsherO on November 08, 2012, 01:07:56 AM
I don't think it means that.

Is there a MC offer coming?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2012, 01:08:15 AM
Is there a MC offer coming?
Not that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Jkhein on November 08, 2012, 08:11:30 AM
Annual fee posted and want to churn.
I would of opened a mc and told them to close the visa, but now that the mc link not working, I called up to convert it to mc and planned to open a new visa, as its not the same product.
They converted it for me, but said that for my benefit the visa still stays sort of active for their records for 60 days.
Will I have a prob applying for a new visa as I already have the product? (or both)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2012, 11:36:56 AM
You can always apply for the Visa.  Worst case is they make you close your MC to get it approved.
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: Jkhein on November 10, 2012, 12:42:57 PM
I converted to MC but now have visa and MC showing active online. (no good because want to reapply for visa)
Chase told me that when I activate new MC, the visa will deactivate. Was it so in your experiences or  the visa was shut right away?
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on November 10, 2012, 12:49:20 PM
Was it so in your experiences or  the visa was shut right away?

I had to wait about 3 months for it to drop off
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on November 14, 2012, 01:13:22 PM
The mc link from Mastercards own site is working again, maybe dan could get back a link also. Always prefer to support dan
Title: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: DanK on November 19, 2012, 12:04:59 PM
I have a Sapphire Preffered Visa, and ordered a Sapp Pref MC but got a letter stating I already have a Sapph pref, to call the number on my card???
What do I say in order to get the Visa in addition to my MC?

Thanx
DanK
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2012, 12:07:28 PM
I have a Sapphire Preffered Visa, and ordered a Sapp Pref MC but got a letter stating I already have a Sapph pref, to call the number on my card???
What do I say in order to get the Visa in addition to my MC?

Thanx
DanK

Make up a reason that explains why you need each card, e.g. MC for Sams Club and Visa for _______. If you sound convincing enough, they will buy it.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: Ergel on November 19, 2012, 12:08:02 PM
Do you need both? Hard to do at the moment ime. If not, just call recon and close the visa to open the mc
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2012, 12:12:37 PM
Do you need both? Hard to do at the moment ime. If not, just call recon and close the visa to open the mc

Did it a couple of months ago. Keeping both would retain the 7% on the OP's SPV.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: DanK on November 19, 2012, 12:13:37 PM
Thnx, will try my best one liner  ;)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: DanK on November 19, 2012, 12:14:47 PM
What does 7% OP's on SPV mean???
Title: Re: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: Ergel on November 19, 2012, 12:14:50 PM
Did it a couple of months ago. Keeping both would retain the 7% on the OP's SPV.
Anyone with more recent experience?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2012, 12:19:29 PM
What does 7% OP's on SPV mean???

You don't know? Then why do you want to keep your SP Visa active?

Anyone with more recent experience?

So much for your experiences. HUCA...
Title: Re: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: Ergel on November 19, 2012, 12:31:52 PM
So much for your experiences. HUCA...
I did a few times. Coming up for my wife now (annual fee was due on the via so applied for the mc). Will try to keep both and get back to you
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: DanK on November 19, 2012, 12:32:52 PM
You don't know? Then why do you want to keep your SP Visa active?



Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: DanK on November 19, 2012, 12:33:57 PM
I'm a newbie, got hooked on dansdeals 2 months ago, (I have 5 cards and counting) gotta learn by asking?  Also, just finished getting my spend bonus on the SP MC.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2012, 03:57:30 PM
I did a few times. Coming up for my wife now (annual fee was due on the via so applied for the mc). Will try to keep both and get back to you

Good luck :) Definitely still doable IMHO.

I'm a newbie, got hooked on dansdeals 2 months ago, (I have 5 cards and counting) gotta learn by asking?  Also, just finished getting my spend bonus on the SP MC.

The reason you'd want to keep your SPV (that's Sapphire Preferred Visa) is so that you can get your annual 7% bonus for that card. The 7% bonus posts in February, so if you earned your signup bonus this past year that's another 3-5k UR in your account.

If you (or anyone) gets a SP approved now, try to get the spend done ASAP so the points post before 12/31/2012. This way you'll get a 7% bonus on those points in a few months.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 04:08:13 PM

The reason you'd want to keep your SPV (that's Sapphire Preferred Visa) is so that you can get your annual 7% bonus for that card. The 7% bonus posts in February, so if you earned your signup bonus this past year that's another 3-5k UR in your account.

If you (or anyone) gets a SP approved now, try to get the spend done ASAP so the points post before 12/31/2012. This way you'll get a 7% bonus on those points in a few months.

Is there any reason to keep the SPV after Feb?

Does the SPMC also have this 7% bonus on Feb?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: jj1000 on November 19, 2012, 04:47:37 PM
Anyone with more recent experience?
IME this past Friday. Sapphire made a rule for chase reps that only 1 preferred card can be open at a time. Period.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: MEIR613 on November 19, 2012, 04:56:55 PM
Good luck :) Definitely still doable IMHO.

The reason you'd want to keep your SPV (that's Sapphire Preferred Visa) is so that you can get your annual 7% bonus for that card. The 7% bonus posts in February, so if you earned your signup bonus this past year that's another 3-5k UR in your account.

If you (or anyone) gets a SP approved now, try to get the spend done ASAP so the points post before 12/31/2012. This way you'll get a 7% bonus on those points in a few months.

That's funny I just spoke to a chase rep and I randomly asked if you earn 7% on bonus points and she said no. Who should I believe AsherO or a chase rep??   Ill go with AsherO 

Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 05:06:19 PM
That's funny I just spoke to a chase rep and I randomly asked if you earn 7% on bonus points and she said no. Who should I believe AsherO or a chase rep??   Ill go with AsherO

If you believe the rep..why do you HUCA?  whatever a rep says is the rule

Must be since some reps have no clue what they're saying there's a chance to get what you want by HUCA
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: Marco Polo on November 19, 2012, 07:35:28 PM
I just spoke with a rep and they said the only way to get the MC if you already have the Visa is to have the Visa open for a year, and then call to switch.  The only way you can get the MC is if you apply directly from the MC website.

I initially tried to do that, but it did not work. I called Chase and they said i should apply and then call to have them make it a MC.

Since i had closed my Saphire Visa before i applied for my MC and now they said i couldn't get the MC, i have re-opened a new Saphire Visa. Hopefully i can HUCA and find someone who can switch my card over before one year.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: Yaalili on November 19, 2012, 07:40:23 PM
What do I say in order to get the Visa in addition to my MC?

From Dan's post, he writes family dollar only accepts visa.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Visa & MC, what to do?
Post by: A European on November 19, 2012, 08:18:08 PM
I have a Sapphire Preffered Visa, and ordered a Sapp Pref MC but got a letter stating I already have a Sapph pref, to call the number on my card???


Thanx
DanK
DON'T CALL THE NUMBER IN THE BACK OF YOUR CARD!
Call reconsideration and ask them to CLOSE the visa and open a MC not to conv. It or you will not get the signed up bonus! 
That's what happened to me a few month ago after I called the number on the back of my card  :-[
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on December 02, 2012, 04:02:58 PM
So i applied for the sp mc, and got a letter stating that they see i already have a sp, and i should call the number on the back of my card to discuss  products. It is not like the denial letters ive gotten in the past from chase(too many open accounts etc) . For my purposes I assume i should call recon, since i think all the cs can do is switch my visa to a mc?
Title: Re: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Ergel on December 02, 2012, 04:03:42 PM
So i applied for the sp mc, and got a letter stating that they see i already have a sp, and i should call the number on the back of my card to discuss  products. It is not like the denial letters ive gotten in the past from chase(too many open accounts etc) . For my purposes I assume i should call recon, since i think all the cs can do is switch my visa to a mc?
Correct
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 04:07:01 PM
So i applied for the sp mc, and got a letter stating that they see i already have a sp, and i should call the number on the back of my card to discuss  products. It is not like the denial letters ive gotten in the past from chase(too many open accounts etc) . For my purposes I assume i should call recon, since i think all the cs can do is switch my visa to a mc?

You currently have a Visa and got denied for the MC?  Call recon and give them a reason why you want both and offer to move CL over to the new card to have it approved...should work.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: elibeli2 on December 02, 2012, 06:08:51 PM
A lot of people are reporting having problems get approved on both these days.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: AsherO on December 02, 2012, 06:19:15 PM
A lot of people are reporting having problems get approved on both these days.

But you can still close an existing SP VS to push through an SP WMC or vice versa.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on December 02, 2012, 10:56:55 PM
But you can still close an existing SP VS to push through an SP WMC or vice versa.
Thanks for help all
I wouldnt want to close this visa have had the same card for many yrs, was some other type originally then when they came out with sapphire they offered me 25k points to switch which i promptly cashed out for $250, would not do that anymore
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: AsherO on December 02, 2012, 11:18:15 PM
Thanks for help all
I wouldnt want to close this visa have had the same card for many yrs, was some other type originally then when they came out with sapphire they offered me 25k points to switch which i promptly cashed out for $250, would not do that anymore

It's a Sapphire or Sapphire preferred?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Bostener on December 03, 2012, 01:28:25 AM
My Sapphire Preferred World Master Card was charged with the annual fee, any way to get it waved?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 03, 2012, 01:41:14 AM
My Sapphire Preferred World Master Card was charged with the annual fee, any way to get it waved?
Either call up to get a retention bonus or IIRC if you cancel the card within 30days of the charge you get the charge back
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Bostener on December 03, 2012, 01:51:49 AM
Either call up to get a retention bonus or IIRC if you cancel the card within 30days of the charge you get the charge back

What is "IIRC"?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Yaalili on December 03, 2012, 01:52:42 AM
What is "IIRC"?

"If I recall correctly."
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Saver2000 on December 03, 2012, 01:53:24 AM
"If I recall correctly."
Or "if I remember correctly"  ;)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Bostener on December 03, 2012, 02:00:23 AM
If I cancel the card I lose the points and I am not sure I will be approved again!
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 03, 2012, 02:19:43 AM
If I cancel the card I lose the points and I am not sure I will be approved again!
Do you have another chase card?  Why don't you think you'll be approved again?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Bostener on December 03, 2012, 02:23:58 AM
Do you have another chase card?  Why don't you think you'll be approved again?

I have been told by  recon that I am opening to many credit cards too close to each other.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 03, 2012, 02:32:29 AM
I have been told by  recon that I am opening to many credit cards too close to each other.
First if all don't believe everything recon tells you. Second..how often are you opening up cards?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Bostener on December 03, 2012, 02:49:19 AM
how often are you opening up cards?

About once a month
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 03, 2012, 04:47:12 AM
About once a month
Why don't you do a 2/3bm every other month than apply for one every month?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on December 03, 2012, 10:21:43 AM
It's a Sapphire or Sapphire preferred?

my visa is preferred
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: AsherO on December 03, 2012, 10:36:01 AM
my visa is preferred

You're going to have a very hard time convincing them to allow you to have both SP cards, it seems the noose has recently tightened on this, I was lucky to convince them two months ago, YMMV.

If you can hit 5k spend requirements, consider a business 3bm for a few Ink cards :)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on December 10, 2012, 10:39:11 PM
You're going to have a very hard time convincing them to allow you to have both SP cards, it seems the noose has recently tightened on this, I was lucky to convince them two months ago, YMMV.

If you can hit 5k spend requirements, consider a business 3bm for a few Ink cards :)

too bad I didnt know that before i applied, not a total loss since i did get the marriott card approved, but when i called recon and gave a shpiel they said right away you cant have two SP. I'm a pretty good chase customer and dont have inquiries with chase for a long while and so they really must have changed policy. My wife got a second in august without any problem at all.

So what to do? can Huca but what is the angle I am telling them?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: AsherO on December 10, 2012, 10:51:39 PM
too bad I didnt know that before i applied, not a total loss since i did get the marriott card approved, but when i called recon and gave a shpiel they said right away you cant have two SP. I'm a pretty good chase customer and dont have inquiries with chase for a long while and so they really must have changed policy. My wife got a second in august without any problem at all.

So what to do? can Huca but what is the angle I am telling them?

Better off missing out on the 7% dividend and getting the 40k, than not getting a new card...
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on December 10, 2012, 10:56:53 PM
Better off missing out on the 7% dividend and getting the 40k, than not getting a new card...

You mean close my current card? From a points perspective maybe but i have that card for so long that i want to keep it. I just hope there is some way to get them to approve another.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: AsherO on December 11, 2012, 02:01:26 AM
You mean close my current card? From a points perspective maybe but i have that card for so long that i want to keep it. I just hope there is some way to get them to approve another.

Yup, from a points perspective.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: satturn on December 11, 2012, 03:00:32 AM
any link for this card out there?
Title: Re: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Ergel on December 11, 2012, 10:44:19 AM
any link for this card out there?
On mastercard website
Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: PETERP on December 14, 2012, 07:50:47 AM
I converted to MC but now have visa and MC showing active online. (no good because want to reapply for visa)
Chase told me that when I activate new MC, the visa will deactivate. Was it so in your experiences or  the visa was shut right away?

In the same situation now for wife's card VISA to MC . Both cards showing and Annual Fee on the Visa

#1 How do I get AF off  old SP Visa off that is part of a larger balance now. Ask for retention bonus?  Offer to cancel the Visa thus leave the MC with no AF and wait and then apply for Visa later ?

#2  Too soon to apply for Visa since both showing online? Some have said it does not matter

I think i waited too long and messed this one up
Help  :)

Title: Re: Sapphire Preferred Visa Signature to World MasterCard
Post by: PETERP on December 17, 2012, 08:06:23 AM
In the same situation now for wife's card VISA to MC . Both cards showing and Annual Fee on the Visa

#1 How do I get AF off  old SP Visa off that is part of a larger balance now. Ask for retention bonus?  Offer to cancel the Visa thus leave the MC with no AF and wait and then apply for Visa later ?

#2  Too soon to apply for Visa since both showing online? Some have said it does not matter

I think i waited too long and messed this one up
Help  :)

Update . I did wait too long it seems . Called to get AF waived from SP VISA  that i was converting to MC and was told can not be done. Last time when converted before AF became due it was not added to MC and it dropped off .
 
CSR said Visa and MC are the same product and can't waive fee now. Can drop to Sapphire non preferred with no AF and FX fee can use that to hold UR Alive .

Transfer all UR out and close out Visa and converted MC and give  CL back to freedom ? Will MC drop off the record ?

Having MC will maybe stop me from getting bonus again on any Sapphire or make it less likely .

Looks like I messed this up bigtime
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: shmooz on December 17, 2012, 02:53:24 PM
I just hope there is some way to get them to approve another.

There is no approving another, least not for me. They are firm that I can't have two SP at the same time. I dont abuse chase and am a good customer so there's no reason they should deny it, but they seem to have changed policies. My wife got both in August, too bad I didnt do it then.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 17, 2012, 02:55:11 PM
There is no approving another, least not for me. They are firm that I can't have two SP at the same time. I dont abuse chase and am a good customer so there's no reason they should deny it, but they seem to have changed policies. My wife got both in August, too bad I didnt do it then.
They stopped allowing it a few weeks ago
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: YankyDoodle on December 17, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
They stopped allowing it a few weeks ago

-1

It has been chase policy for quite some time now( I would venture to say >1 year). While a (small) number have been succesful at acquiring both the MC/Visa @ the same time, it seems they have become even stricter of late
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 17, 2012, 03:58:20 PM
-1

It has been chase policy for quite some time now( I would venture to say >1 year). While a (small) number have been succesful at acquiring both the MC/Visa @ the same time, it seems they have become even stricter of late
I'm sure it's been a Chase policy for a while (along with everything else we do here on DDF) but until a few weeks ago I have never had a problem getting two SP's and have never read anyone else had a problem...that's if of course they had the leverage and the good excuses.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: elibeli2 on December 17, 2012, 04:24:57 PM
I was denied as well, around a month ago.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: nobiggy on December 17, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
You're going to have a very hard time convincing them to allow you to have both SP cards, it seems the noose has recently tightened on this, I was lucky to convince them two months ago, YMMV.

If you can hit 5k spend requirements, consider a business 3bm for a few Ink cards :)
If I apply for 3 Delta gold AMEX cards using 3bm I'll get accepted to all 3 just like that and I'll get the 30k bonus times 3= 90k miles??
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: YankyDoodle on December 17, 2012, 06:51:00 PM
I'm sure it's been a Chase policy for a while (along with everything else we do here on DDF) but until a few weeks ago I have never had a problem getting two SP's and have never read anyone else had a problem...that's if of course they had the leverage and the good excuses.

You've held both Visa/MC multiple times? That's impressive. We mut run in different circles because I only know of a handful of people who were succesful getting both and even then was quite difficult.

There's a reason why Dan's termed it the Sapphire Shuffle
You can also do the Sapphire shuffle. 

Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 18, 2012, 03:37:34 AM
You've held both Visa/MC multiple times? That's impressive. We mut run in different circles because I only know of a handful of people who were succesful getting both and even then was quite difficult.
I guess we do  :)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: MEIR613 on December 18, 2012, 09:23:57 AM
If I apply for 3 Delta gold AMEX cards using 3bm I'll get accepted to all 3 just like that and I'll get the 30k bonus times 3= 90k miles??
No.

Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: moto on December 20, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
Could I get matched from 40k to 50k by sending them a secure message?
Has anyone done that and worked?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: meshugener on December 20, 2012, 01:21:36 PM
Could I get matched from 40k to 50k by sending them a secure message?
Has anyone done that and worked?
SM = no, sweet phone talking =2X yes.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: sruly101 on December 20, 2012, 01:56:31 PM
Could I get matched from 40k to 50k by sending them a secure message?
Has anyone done that and worked?
Well i did get last week by SM :)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 20, 2012, 03:17:10 PM
Well i did get last week by SM :)
Nice!
What did you say?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: sruly101 on December 20, 2012, 05:51:35 PM
Nice!
What did you say?
That a friend of mine..... got 50K offer in a branch due that he has a checking account...... so dont c y i am different
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 20, 2012, 05:59:20 PM
That a friend of mine..... got 50K offer in a branch due that he has a checking account...... so dont c y i am different
Tried the same many times..I had no luck. Think it's too late to try more  :(
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: MEIR613 on December 20, 2012, 06:05:40 PM
Tried the same many times..I had no luck. Think it's too late to try more  :(
Its never to late too try :)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: sruly101 on December 20, 2012, 06:07:00 PM
Tried the same many times..I had no luck. Think it's too late to try more  :(
How long ago did u get the card?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 20, 2012, 06:12:04 PM
How long ago did u get the card?
More than 90 days ago.

Its never to late too try :)
Your right but not in the mood for a small percentage like this.

I did get 1000 UR for SMing them about a misspelled name on a card  :)
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: moto on December 25, 2012, 03:23:55 AM
Anyone have a screen shot of 50k offer that shows a recent date on it?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: zlt123 on December 26, 2012, 07:41:09 PM
If i apply for the MC and close my Visa to get the MC approved will i get the bonus?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 26, 2012, 07:46:33 PM
If i apply for the MC and close my Visa to get the MC approved will i get the bonus?
Yes
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: zlt123 on December 26, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
I was told today by a recon rep that i wont get it
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 26, 2012, 08:58:35 PM
I was told today by a recon rep that i wont get it
Don't believe everything they tell you.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: moto on December 30, 2012, 04:17:33 AM
Anyone have a screen shot offering 50k for sapphire within the last month?
Chase said if I provide that they will grant the 50k over the 40k
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: yhakak on December 30, 2012, 05:07:30 PM
So question for everyone here...i had a SP visa, called a while ago (august) and asked for a mastercard, instead of closing the visa and moving the CL to a visa they issued me a mastercard and i had both (yes, got 40K UR points for each one). So, i closed the visa myself.

Anyway, i've seen lots of posts about doing visa ->mastercard but never seen one about visa->mastercard ->visa. Do i have a chance (excellent credit, chase checking and savings, for years now) ? If so, how do i go about this? just apply online? should i be preparing a story for recon? (i have one about needing a visa for europe).

And, on an unrelated note, does anyone know of any american cc's that come with those chips they use in Europe? I had a very annoying moment in a cab at CDG airport in Paris where none of my cards, neither american nor Israeli, would work. Good thing i always carry some US dollars...
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Saver2000 on December 30, 2012, 05:11:05 PM
Why would you want to do visa-MC-visa?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 30, 2012, 05:12:16 PM
So question for everyone here...i had a SP visa, called a while ago (august) and asked for a mastercard, instead of closing the visa and moving the CL to a visa (?) they issued me a mastercard and i had both (yes, got 40K UR points for each one). So, i closed the visa myself.
Any reason why you closed the Visa?

Why would you want to do visa-MC-visa?
+1
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: yhakak on December 30, 2012, 05:17:57 PM
Any reason why you closed the Visa?

because i didn't want to pay the annual fee, they were very difficult about waiving it


Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: yhakak on December 30, 2012, 05:19:49 PM
Why would you want to do visa-MC-visa?

uh...churning signup bonuses?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 30, 2012, 05:20:16 PM
because i didn't want to pay the annual fee, they were very difficult about waiving it
And i'm hoping you transfered the CL...?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: yhakak on December 30, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
And i'm hoping you transfered the CL...?

Yes, but i have such a large CL with chase and i use so little of it (real spending is always on a business card) that it doesn't really matter..
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 30, 2012, 05:21:21 PM
uh...churning signup bonuses?
Sorry...didnt really get it...What SP card do you have now?  Why cant you apply for the other SP and close your current SP via recon?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Saver2000 on December 30, 2012, 05:21:54 PM
uh...churning signup bonuses?
Still doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: yhakak on December 30, 2012, 05:22:41 PM
Sorry...didnt really get it...What SP card do you have now?  Why cant you apply for the other SP and close your current SP via recon?

I have SP mastercard at the moment. I could apply for the visa and close the MC via recon. I'm asking if anyone's done it twice, because that's what i'm trying to do, and if they're getting more difficult about it i would assume this would be getting harder, no?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on December 30, 2012, 05:27:33 PM
I have SP mastercard at the moment. I could apply for the visa and close the MC via recon. I'm asking if anyone's done it twice, because that's what i'm trying to do, and if they're getting more difficult about it i would assume this would be getting harder, no?
They are allowing having one SP open. So if you offer to transfer CL and close your current SP there shouldnt be problem.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: yhakak on December 30, 2012, 05:28:23 PM
They are allowing having one SP open. So if you offer to transfer CL and close your current SP there shouldnt be problem.

thanks, will give it a shot next week and update.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: zlt123 on December 31, 2012, 10:48:30 PM


And, on an unrelated note, does anyone know of any american cc's that come with those chips they use in Europe? I had a very annoying moment in a cab at CDG airport in Paris where none of my cards, neither american nor Israeli, would work. Good thing i always carry some US dollars...
Hyatt credit card from chase
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: yhakak on January 01, 2013, 09:22:00 AM
Hyatt credit card from chase
thanks
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Jkhein on January 01, 2013, 12:21:41 PM
And BA card from chase plus no foreign transaction fees.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 02:54:43 PM
Both those cards have AF, any free cards with a chip?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 03:08:29 PM
Both those cards have AF, any free cards with a chip?
You can get the Hyatt card waived the first year if that helps.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Wolf on January 14, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
I have the sp visa, 1st year just finished and they charged me $95, if I go ahead and convert to wmc will they gimme back the 95 automatically?
Also what number do I call? the one in back of card?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on January 14, 2013, 05:30:04 PM
I have the sp visa, 1st year just finished and they charged me $95, if I go ahead and convert to wmc will they gimme back the 95 automatically?
Also what number do I call? the one in back of card?

You can try converting to a non preferred card. But the preferred card carries a fee whether it is visa or WMC.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Redbull3 on January 14, 2013, 05:33:27 PM
They are allowing having one SP open. So if you offer to transfer CL and close your current SP there shouldnt be problem.

I am pretty sure Dan and others have 2 open.
I recently had a WMC and applied for a visa trying to have both at once and was declined, I spoke to many reps, but basically the supervisor told me straight out having the visa AND wmc wasn't the problem. They just didn't want an additional 5k exposure with my total chase line (I am young and relatively new to the game) so in the end I closed my WMC to open the new visa. But they made it seem like having both was possible.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on January 14, 2013, 05:39:38 PM
I am pretty sure Dan and others have 2 open.
I recently had a WMC and applied for a visa trying to have both at once and was declined, I spoke to many reps, but basically the supervisor told me straight out having the visa AND wmc wasn't the problem. They just didn't want an additional 5k exposure with my total chase line (I am young and relatively new to the game) so in the end I closed my WMC to open the new visa. But they made it seem like having both was possible.
I know many people including members in my family currently have both SP's.
What I meant to say is if you tried getting both now they will give a really hard time...harder than a few months ago.  I guess you kinda got lucky with almost pushing it through.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Wolf on January 14, 2013, 05:40:41 PM
Does the WMC cover additional members too?
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: Redbull3 on January 15, 2013, 11:29:05 AM
I know many people including members in my family currently have both SP's.
What I meant to say is if you tried getting both now they will give a really hard time...harder than a few months ago.  I guess you kinda got lucky with almost pushing it through.

I hear and agree. I wonder has anyone ever gotten instant approval on a sapphire visa while having a WMC open? I bet it takes a phone call every time.
Title: Re: Chase Sapphire Preferred MASTER CARD
Post by: mmermss on January 15, 2013, 11:44:51 AM
I hear and agree. I wonder has anyone ever gotten instant approval on a sapphire visa while having a WMC open? I bet it takes a phone call every time.
IME always needed a phone call
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Wolf on January 18, 2013, 10:23:06 AM
VERY INTERESTING!!
Although I was told that not, but when I just logged in to my account the first time after converting my visa to wmc, I see the new account duplicated as discussed and I see a $87.08 annual credit fee.
I was charged the 95 fee about a month ago, so I guess you do get an additional year free when converting.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Yeki89 on January 18, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
Anyone got 50k recently via SM?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: jj1000 on January 18, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
Anyone got 50k recently via SM?
No, but I called and a rep told me I got 50K. Waiting for the bill to close to argue for it :)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on January 18, 2013, 04:52:57 PM
VERY INTERESTING!!
Although I was told that not, but when I just logged in to my account the first time after converting my visa to wmc, I see the new account duplicated as discussed and I see a $87.08 annual credit fee.
I was charged the 95 fee about a month ago, so I guess you do get an additional year free when converting.

Are you sure the conversion triggered the credit? Did you contact chase about the fee or mention it while converting at all?
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Wolf on January 19, 2013, 07:01:48 PM
Are you sure the conversion triggered the credit? Did you contact chase about the fee or mention it while converting at all?
no not a word, didn't contact them prior to conversion as well.
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on January 20, 2013, 02:12:48 AM
no not a word, didn't contact them prior to conversion as well.

Was it converted to a non-preferred? Why else would they give you a pro-rated refund.
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Wolf on January 20, 2013, 01:00:33 PM
Was it converted to a non-preferred? Why else would they give you a pro-rated refund.
Dont know will see when it arrives. Online I dont see anything that would make me think it was changed to non prefered
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ham on January 21, 2013, 05:40:39 PM
Is it confirmed that if you already have a SP and run another application for the other SP, it will auto reject and not run your credit?

I had a Visa, got the bonus, and applied for the SP MC. The application was rejected. I talked to a rep and the switched my card to a MC. This was early last year. I was going to apply for the Visa again and switch over from the MC to Visa, and see by chance if I can get the spending bonus.

How does this sound?

Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: A European on January 28, 2013, 07:32:22 AM
Is it confirmed that if you already have a SP and run another application for the other SP, it will auto reject and not run your credit?

I had a Visa, got the bonus, and applied for the SP MC. The application was rejected. I talked to a rep and the switched my card to a MC. This was early last year. I was going to apply for the Visa again and switch over from the MC to Visa, and see by chance if I can get the spending bonus.

How does this sound?

Thanks
You will get a letter saying you should call the number on the back of the card. DON'T CALL! they will converter your existing SP from MC to visa and you will not receive the sign up bonus.
Instead just call chase recon. And ask them to close down your MC in order to.get the visa  approved.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Ryan from MA on January 28, 2013, 08:54:07 AM
hey guys, i'm reading through this and I'm missing if people are applying for a Sapphire MC or they just call and ask to have their Sapphire VISA converted to MC. Would doing such a conversion give you the MC bonus to go after?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2013, 11:38:00 AM
hey guys, i'm reading through this and I'm missing if people are applying for a Sapphire MC or they just call and ask to have their Sapphire VISA converted to MC. Would doing such a conversion give you the MC bonus to go after?
No but after doing such a conversion you can apply for the Visa again and get the bonus.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on January 28, 2013, 11:45:03 AM
No but after doing such a conversion you can apply for the Visa again and get the bonus.

Or just apply for the MC and get the bonus
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on January 28, 2013, 11:47:58 AM
Or just apply for the MC and get the bonus
Dan doesnt have a link for the MC, only the SP.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2013, 11:53:53 AM
Or just apply for the MC and get the bonus
True. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
Either way it's a pull to get the bonus.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on January 28, 2013, 11:57:26 AM
Dan doesnt have a link for the MC, only the SP.

True. Just telling the OP all his options if he doesn't wana speak to Chase yet.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2013, 11:58:42 AM
True. Just telling the OP all his options if he doesn't wana speak to Chase yet.
If you have a Visa you'll need to talk to Chase anyway to get the MC approved.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on January 28, 2013, 12:01:54 PM
If you have a Visa you'll need to talk to Chase anyway to get the MC approved.
True. Just telling the OP all his options if he doesn't wana speak to Chase yet.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2013, 12:21:06 PM
If you apply for SPMC with a MBM you'll want to call right away anyhow.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: btab on January 28, 2013, 11:02:05 PM
Is the 7% bonus only on the previous years spending or even January spending of the following year in the feb statement?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 03, 2013, 04:53:29 AM
sorry i posted this in the visa sapphire and since not much recent activity on thread not sure how much attention will be paid to the 70k offer

I have read that at branch some people can get 70k on sapphire , maybe a targeted offer

what do you think:

I got orig visa  c. an 50k -- switched to master  - reapplied visa  got 40k about 80 days ago

 since chase matches in 90 days --if I now send SM asking to match 70k will it open up a can of worms?? , anyone know if chase will match targeted offers
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mochada on February 03, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
Was a commenter on a BoardingArea blog....the blogger traced his IP to Chase.  Blogger thinks he is trying to drum up business for chase.  Written up on FT
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on February 03, 2013, 10:38:19 AM
Link?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mochada on February 03, 2013, 10:52:23 AM
Link?

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/deltapoints/2013/02/01/is-chase-about-to-lower-the-sapphire-preferred-new-card-bonus-points/
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 03, 2013, 11:22:45 AM
Was a commenter on a BoardingArea blog....the blogger traced his IP to Chase.  Blogger thinks he is trying to drum up business for chase.  Written up on FT

that just makes it authentic if it came from chase employee -- who cares if he is trying to get biz for chase -it is good for us to know what is at branches , I am in Europe and it is a little hard to see the offers posted in the branches--

I was told by someone at a branch in ny that --- ''yes" have the bonus offer for pre approved targeted

my question is not if have offer -- question is SM and try to get matched?? --even I after got bonus on visa and master ---- I am still in 90 day window-- how big a risk that  they will see double dip
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on February 04, 2013, 08:54:15 AM
Just applied for a Sapphire P Visa and closed down my Mastercard to get it approved. The rep informed me multiple times I would not get the sign up bonus for the Sapphire card since I already just had it.

Is he just saying that?
Did that ever happen to anyone?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: meshugener on February 04, 2013, 08:59:27 AM
Don't worry.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on February 04, 2013, 09:01:45 AM
Just applied for a Sapphire P Visa and closed down my Mastercard to get it approved. The rep informed me multiple times I would not get the sign up bonus for the Sapphire card since I already just had it.

Is he just saying that?
Did that ever happen to anyone?

What's most surprising to me is that the word "points" would even be mentioned by one of the guys moving lines/closing cards - IME those departments never communicated.

I closed down my MC to open a visa and got points in the past month or 2. I don't think you have anything to worry about but keep us posted anyway!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on February 04, 2013, 09:16:35 AM
Don't worry.
What's most surprising to me is that the word "points" would even be mentioned by one of the guys moving lines/closing cards - IME those departments never communicated.

I closed down my MC to open a visa and got points in the past month or 2. I don't think you have anything to worry about but keep us posted anyway!


Thanks- hopefully will work out just fine.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 04, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
What's most surprising to me is that the word "points" would even be mentioned by one of the guys moving lines/closing cards - IME those departments never communicated.

I closed down my MC to open a visa and got points in the past month or 2. I don't think you have anything to worry about but keep us posted anyway!



Are you going to try to get matched to the 70k offer ??
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on February 04, 2013, 10:50:25 AM


Are you going to try to get matched to the 70k offer ??

I just did for kicks :) - I have no confidence.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 04, 2013, 11:15:41 AM
I just did for kicks :) - I have no confidence.

assume u sent a SM --I think only if chase as a policy of  "does not match targeted offers" will you get turned down --- I and many have been matched on many offers as long as within 90 days of applying , my only concern is --will they see i got the visa and mc bonus --and will this cause me a problem???
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on February 04, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
assume u sent a SM --I think only if chase as a policy of  "does not match targeted offers" will you get turned down --- I and many have been matched on many offers as long as within 90 days of applying , my only concern is --will they see i got the visa and mc bonus --and will this cause me a problem???

Yes I sent an SM
Well that's exactly it - I don't think they match targeted offers. I am only guessing here, but if there was a publicly available 70K offer and I just applied too early, then I'd have more luck. This was an offer that was never intended for me.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on February 04, 2013, 01:05:40 PM
Just applied for a Sapphire P Visa and closed down my Mastercard to get it approved. The rep informed me multiple times I would not get the sign up bonus for the Sapphire card since I already just had it.

Is he just saying that?
Did that ever happen to anyone?
Nothing to worry about, they say it all the time. I've yet to hear of it being true.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: btab on February 04, 2013, 01:12:48 PM
I have sent 3 SM in the past two weeks to try and get a 50k or 70k offer match on my SP that I opened up about a month ago. I currently today sent my most recent SM again to try and push for a 70k offer. Just doing this to push and test to see if it is even remotely possible. Will update if something comes up.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on February 04, 2013, 01:16:13 PM
Nothing to worry about, they say it all the time. I've yet to hear of it being true.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 04, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
I have sent 3 SM in the past two weeks to try and get a 50k or 70k offer match on my SP that I opened up about a month ago. I currently today sent my most recent SM again to try and push for a 70k offer. Just doing this to push and test to see if it is even remotely possible. Will update if something comes up.


"I have sent 3 SM in the past two weeks to try and get a 50k or 70k offer match "

Did you get any replies, -- care to share what they were
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: btab on February 04, 2013, 01:43:46 PM
So the first and second I reply I got was that the offers were no longer available and that they closed them. However, this is a much more promising response. The most recent reply was as following:

Dear btab,

Thank you for your interest in the Chase Sapphire bonus
points offer.

The 70,000 bonus points offer was made through a small
direct mail test and is non-transferable. The Offer Code
and Invitation Number included in the mailing can only be
applied to the recipient?s account. If you are not listed
as the addressee of the mailing, we will be unable to
apply the offer to your account. I understand you may be
disappointed and I am sincerely sorry for any confusion.
Please know that we will consider reviewing the terms of
other offers you receive in the future.

If you have any further questions, please reply using the
Secure Message Center.

Thank you,

Teresa Rodrigues
Customer Service Specialist
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 04, 2013, 02:10:10 PM
thanks for the info , i have sent some people who never received the invite into the chase branch and see if they can get it , as a walk in
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: btab on February 04, 2013, 02:19:08 PM
thanks for the info , i have sent some people who never received the invite into the chase branch and see if they can get it , as a walk in

As a match or as an initial signup?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 04, 2013, 02:22:23 PM
initial signup
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: btab on February 04, 2013, 02:31:47 PM
initial signup

Were they told they would get the bonus?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 04, 2013, 03:08:55 PM
Were they told they would get the bonus?

I just told them today to go into chase , not sure when they will --as they are not "into" points like we are
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: btab on February 04, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
Im curious if it would work, because then I could use that as "leverage" to get point matched.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 04, 2013, 04:27:44 PM
Im curious if it would work, because then I could use that as "leverage" to get point matched.

i am in Greece , so no chase branch, sent my sister in N.J to see if can get 70k , waiting for her results , she has no relationship with Chase and that may make it impossible  for her to get 70k   -- did you try at a branch
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: btab on February 04, 2013, 04:43:15 PM
i am in Greece , so no chase branch, sent my sister in N.J to see if can get 70k , waiting for her results , she has no relationship with Chase and that may make it impossible  for her to get 70k   -- did you try at a branch

I am thinking of going in and speaking with a banker. But I already have a SP, what do you think would be a good premise in asking about the 70k offer? My wife wants to sign up.?.

Edit: went in. they don't know of any offers. the only one they have in bank is for 40k with 2k spend in 3 months.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: SPLP on February 05, 2013, 12:01:43 AM
I am thinking of going in and speaking with a banker. But I already have a SP, what do you think would be a good premise in asking about the 70k offer? My wife wants to sign up.?.

Edit: went in. they don't know of any offers. the only one they have in bank is for 40k with 2k spend in 3 months.

I got this e/m from my branch in ny ---if my sister who lives in nj , ever makes it to a branch i will let you know -- I think ,who you spoke to is not so sharp!, try another branch
E/M FROM BRANCH"
"Of course! I will keep you posted if something should arise with respect to promotional offers for existing clients. The 70k is for pre-qualified. So anyone whom receives correspondence in the mail or flagged on their accounts, will qualify. "
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: smurf on February 28, 2013, 02:28:36 AM
anybody here notice if converting reset the free first year?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2013, 09:45:33 AM
anybody here notice if converting reset the free first year?
Seems to work for all cards ;)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: A European on March 03, 2013, 08:17:54 AM
Seems to work for all cards ;)
Not for me!
Just got hit with the AF for my SP VISA (opened a year ago ) was converted to WMC. :(
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on March 03, 2013, 09:28:32 AM
Did you convert before of after the annual fee.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: A European on March 03, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
before, like 9 month ago, the AF hit my account 2 days ago
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on March 03, 2013, 10:55:51 AM
I'm talking about converting once it hits.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Wolf on March 03, 2013, 11:55:28 AM
I converted to Master a month after my fee was applied.
Right away I got a credit for $87 on my bill.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: yitzf on March 03, 2013, 09:27:02 PM
Just an idea

For anyone who wants to churn their SP, instead of converting to the WMC,  convert to the freedom and get 5x at drugstores this month.
Same result just 7500 UR richer.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: yitzf on March 04, 2013, 05:43:57 PM
Just an idea

For anyone who wants to churn their SP, instead of converting to the WMC,  convert to the freedom and get 5x at drugstores this month.
Same result just 7500 UR richer.

Just tried to convert my SP to a freedom, and was told it must be open for at least a  year to qualify.
(I'm not sure who has the same sapphire account for more than a year ;))

Is this a HUCA situation or I'm out of luck?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on March 04, 2013, 05:46:52 PM
Just tried to convert my SP to a freedom, and was told it must be open for at least a  year to qualify.
(I'm not sure who has the same sapphire account for more than a year ;))

Is this a HUCA situation or I'm out of luck?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: yitzf on March 04, 2013, 06:00:07 PM

Thanks, wil do.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: little dan on March 08, 2013, 01:01:15 PM
i had a sp visa. did a new app for the mc. got a letter asking if i wanted this card being that i have the visa version. called the 800# on the letter & explaned why i perfered the mc and they could use the line of credit from the visa for the new mc. after receiving the mc and loginig in to my account i realized they did a product switch only from visa to mc, ie. no point bonus , or annual fee waver!!! when i called back to clarify that this was a new app, i was told this is an identical product but was has a choice of visa or mc.any ideas how to fix??? thanks
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: rots5 on March 09, 2013, 01:53:40 PM
i had a sp visa. did a new app for the mc. got a letter asking if i wanted this card being that i have the visa version. called the 800# on the letter & explaned why i perfered the mc and they could use the line of credit from the visa for the new mc. after receiving the mc and loginig in to my account i realized they did a product switch only from visa to mc, ie. no point bonus , or annual fee waver!!! when i called back to clarify that this was a new app, i was told this is an identical product but was has a choice of visa or mc.any ideas how to fix??? thanks
resign up for a visa.

And think about switching ur handle :-)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: little dan on March 10, 2013, 11:33:19 AM
resign up for a visa.
how can i reapply if i just explained to them that i perfered the mc??,furthermore, according to them i had a visa until a couple of weeks ago??
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on March 10, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
how can i reapply if i just explained to them that i perfered the mc??,furthermore, according to them i had a visa until a couple of weeks ago??

Because all they know is you have a mc which was previously a visa. Change your story: now you are someone who prefers a VISA.
Apply for visa, get denied and be explicit that you want to close your wmc and transfer the cl to open the visa. Make sure you are talking to the lending department not cs bc cs will just convert you back. It worked for many including me.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: yitzf on March 13, 2013, 10:30:46 AM
Because all they know is you have a mc which was previously a visa. Change your story: now you are someone who prefers a VISA.
Apply for visa, get denied and be explicit that you want to close your wmc and transfer the cl to open the visa. Make sure you are talking to the lending department not cs bc cs will just convert you back. It worked for many including me.
+1
CS  can't  open new cards, they will try to convert it,  call reconsideration @
888-270-2127 
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on March 20, 2013, 12:35:27 AM
Interestingly, my wife had a MC open and was naturally denied for the visa in my last AOR. During recon I asked for them to close the MC and transfer the $5k credit line to open the visa which they agreed to without a problem. I now see on her profile that the MC stayed open and a new credit line for the visa of $14k.
As exciting as it is to have two SP cards open again, I still have to close one to be able to reapply during my next AOR.  :P
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on March 20, 2013, 01:04:19 AM
Interestingly, my wife had a MC open and was naturally denied for the visa in my last AOR. During recon I asked for them to close the MC and transfer the $5k credit line to open the visa which they agreed to without a problem. I now see on her profile that the MC stayed open and a new credit line for the visa of $14k.
As exciting as it is to have two SP cards open again, I still have to close one to be able to reapply during my next AOR.  :P
Same thing happened to me last week...kept the SP open which I thought they were closing...but instead closed the Freedom which I needed so I called back and told them to open Freedom and close SP
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on March 20, 2013, 08:41:24 AM
It's just more proof that you can have visa + mc at the same time. I don't doubt it at all.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: rots5 on March 20, 2013, 06:28:36 PM
I downgraded to a sapphire (regular) but its still a WMC. I suppose it still covers insurance...right?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mclovin on April 16, 2013, 06:41:36 PM
is there a link for this? i cant tell if im applying for the visa or mc
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on April 16, 2013, 06:50:59 PM
is there a link for this? i cant tell if im applying for the visa or mc
Dan's link is the Visa.

Apply for the Visa and then convert to the MC.

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mclovin on April 16, 2013, 08:19:32 PM
Dan's link is the Visa.

Apply for the Visa and then convert to the MC.
i currently have the visa. is that going to be a problem or will i get the bonus no problem? if i wont is there a non dan link to the wmc
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on April 16, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
i currently have the visa. is that going to be a problem or will i get the bonus no problem? if i wont is there a non dan link to the wmc
You can convert the Visa to a MC, then wait a day or two. Then you can apply for the Visa again.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mclovin on April 16, 2013, 08:30:19 PM
You can convert the Visa to a MC, then wait a day or two. Then you can apply for the Visa again.
what is my excuse for wanting a visa version also
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on April 16, 2013, 08:33:57 PM
what is my excuse for wanting a visa version also
Dollar stores

Not also, you will need to close MC to approve Visa.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mclovin on April 16, 2013, 08:39:56 PM
but i actually want the wmc for israel so how can i get the signup bonus for it
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on April 16, 2013, 08:42:50 PM
but i actually want the wmc for israel so how can i get the signup bonus for it
Sorry Dan I tried.

Mastercard.com

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mclovin on April 16, 2013, 08:46:21 PM
Sorry Dan I tried.

Mastercard.com
ill use his links for the other cards i apply for
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: aajfried on April 18, 2013, 01:09:52 PM
So I did a bit more research around this since we are moving to Israel. I transferred the Sapphire CC to a Mastercard world card, but when I looked up the terms which I asked them to send me, it said for CDW car insurance, it "may not include Israel".

I know from this forum that it is supposed to but I guess I am not clear on this since it CLEARLY says in the TOS that it might not.

Can anyone clear this up?
Thanks!
Aaron
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: moko on April 21, 2013, 02:59:30 PM
So I did a bit more research around this since we are moving to Israel. I transferred the Sapphire CC to a Mastercard world card, but when I looked up the terms which I asked them to send me, it said for CDW car insurance, it "may not include Israel".

I know from this forum that it is supposed to but I guess I am not clear on this since it CLEARLY says in the TOS that it might not.

Can anyone clear this up?
Thanks!
Aaron
get a letter stating that it covers your rental
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on May 06, 2013, 05:43:43 PM
Is the chase sapphire preffered mcw not available anymore?
what about non preffered?
I cant seem to find the application...
what about to convert, is that an option?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
Is the chase sapphire preffered mcw not available anymore?
what about non preffered?
I cant seem to find the application...
what about to convert, is that an option?
You have to get the Visa and then switch it to the MC.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on May 06, 2013, 05:46:12 PM
You have to get the Visa and then switch it to the MC.
can I switch directly from preffered visa to non preffered mcw?
or doe it take 2 steps?
btw why did they stop it?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 05:49:26 PM
can I switch directly from preffered visa to non preffered mcw?
or doe it take 2 steps?
btw why did they stop it?
I believe so. Stop what?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on May 06, 2013, 05:50:23 PM
Stop what?
application for mcw
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 05:52:09 PM
application for mcw
Did they ever have one?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on May 06, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
Did they ever have one?
preferred for sure. non preffered dono
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on May 06, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
Did they ever have one?
agav, from dans credit card wiki is mashma that davka the preferred has the option for mc
although he doesn't have the link
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 06:06:29 PM
agav, from dans credit card wiki is mashma that davka the preferred has the option for mc
although he doesn't have the link
It has the option, but CMIIW I dont think you can sign up for it initially.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on May 06, 2013, 07:57:15 PM
Is the chase sapphire preffered mcw not available anymore?
what about non preffered?
I cant seem to find the application...
what about to convert, is that an option?
i applied for a world master card from a different bank in the summer , was approve for $4000, I was told that at that time I was only approved for a platinum master card .
In order for it to be considered a World u must have a min of $5000cl

So as long as u have $5 k it should be a world
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ari2955 on May 09, 2013, 10:41:35 AM
Can I convert visa 2 master card before meeting minimum spend and not mess up the bonus?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ari2955 on May 12, 2013, 12:14:43 PM
Can I convert visa 2 master card before meeting minimum spend and not mess up the bonus?
Bump
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: aajfried on May 21, 2013, 11:16:27 AM
I downgraded to a sapphire (regular) but its still a WMC. I suppose it still covers insurance...right?

where did you get information about it covering insurance?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Zevwolf on May 24, 2013, 03:11:14 PM
I think the mc is nowhere to be found by now not on mastercard.com not on creditcard.com some report not even being able to convert to mastercard anyone has experience lately?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Hiding on May 24, 2013, 03:21:06 PM
I think the mc is nowhere to be found by now not on mastercard.com not on creditcard.com some report not even being able to convert to mastercard anyone has experience lately?
Both possible
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on May 25, 2013, 03:50:24 PM
I think the mc is nowhere to be found by now not on mastercard.com not on creditcard.com some report not even being able to convert to mastercard anyone has experience lately?
Seek and ye shal find
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Zevwolf on May 25, 2013, 11:52:20 PM
Could you please let me know where you found?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on May 26, 2013, 05:38:59 AM
Could you please let me know where you found?
Time to brush up on your googling skills.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on May 26, 2013, 06:19:13 AM
Time to brush up on your googling skills.
+1 http://www.howtogeek.com/98698/improve-your-google-search-skills-infographic/
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: thaber on May 27, 2013, 01:52:40 AM
I think the mc is nowhere to be found by now not on mastercard.com not on creditcard.com some report not even being able to convert to mastercard anyone has experience lately?


I converted my Sapphire preferred Visa to the WMC last week. CSR had to put me on  hold and get approval, but wasn't a big deal.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ckmk47 on May 27, 2013, 11:51:49 PM
I sm'd chase to convert my SP visa to MC. b/c MC has no foreign exchange fees.  I got back a sm that visa also doesn't and I would lose features if I switched to MC from visa.  What features are different?  DO I make the switch?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on May 27, 2013, 11:55:45 PM
I sm'd chase to convert my SP visa to MC. b/c MC has no foreign exchange fees.  I got back a sm that visa also doesn't and I would lose features if I switched to MC from visa.  What features are different?  DO I make the switch?
Car rental insurance in Israel.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ckmk47 on May 28, 2013, 09:28:19 AM
Car rental insurance in Israel.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: newmember on May 28, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
I have CSP MC for 13 months now and paid my annual fee in last billing cycle. Is it possible to convert CSP MC to Freedom MC and apply again for CSP Visa after few months?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on May 28, 2013, 09:38:39 PM
I have CSP MC for 13 months now and paid my annual fee in last billing cycle. Is it possible to convert CSP MC to Freedom MC and apply again for CSP Visa after few months?
Yes.

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: lfas25 on May 28, 2013, 10:45:54 PM
I have CSP MC for 13 months now and paid my annual fee in last billing cycle. Is it possible to convert CSP MC to Freedom MC and apply again for CSP Visa after few months?

CMIIW
If I understood what Dan said at the seminar, you could apply for the visa the next day. No need to wait a few months.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MEIR613 on May 28, 2013, 11:11:20 PM
CMIIW
If I understood what Dan said at the seminar, you could apply for the visa the next day. No need to wait a few months.
Correct.

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: hocker on May 29, 2013, 11:32:55 AM
I sm'd chase to convert my SP visa to MC. b/c MC has no foreign exchange fees.  I got back a sm that visa also doesn't and I would lose features if I switched to MC from visa.  What features are different?  DO I make the switch?
@ckmk47 Make the switch. The WMC covers Israel while the Visa doesn't, I don't think there's any benefit to the Visa over the WMC.
Car rental insurance in Israel.
It seems you were reading too quickly, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2013, 11:18:36 AM
The SP WMC is officially dead. RIP.
Post if you have any success converting or applying.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on May 30, 2013, 11:23:29 AM
The SP WMC is officially dead. RIP.
Post if you have any success converting or applying.

 :(

So now we are down to converting to a Freedom or a regular sapphire to churn it?


What about if one has a SPWMC now? Should he not close it (for the benefit of car insurance)? That will be annoying.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2013, 11:32:11 AM
:(

So now we are down to converting to a Freedom or a regular sapphire to churn it?


What about if one has a SPWMC now? Should he not close it (for the benefit of car insurance)? That will be annoying.
Freedom.
If you close it you won't get it back.  But you can knock the credit line down to $500 and shift it elsewhere.
Sad stuff.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Let3 on May 30, 2013, 11:56:10 AM
But then you won't be able to get the sp Visa card either , correct??
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Zevwolf on May 30, 2013, 12:06:58 PM
Now there is no WMC that covers israel?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on May 30, 2013, 12:29:24 PM
The SP WMC is officially dead. RIP.
Post if you have any success converting or applying.
The app still loads...
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2013, 12:32:29 PM
Enjoy it while it lasts, I'm just passing along info from above.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: jwilliams1 on May 30, 2013, 12:58:06 PM
I called Chase sapphire after receiving there 3k in 3 months offer and told them i saw 2k in the bank ( which was true). I called them to ask if they could honor this. The lady helping me left a message on my phone saying that they will. Do you think this will suffice to get the bonus ( if i keep the voicemail)?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2013, 01:11:57 PM
Yes, but why didn't you just SM?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: jj1000 on May 30, 2013, 01:16:57 PM
The SP WMC is officially dead. RIP.
Post if you have any success converting or applying.
Lucky I have 2 of them in my name :P (and a Visa)

That really stinks for rentals in Israel...
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: jwilliams1 on May 30, 2013, 01:17:49 PM
Yes, but why didn't you just SM?

When i SMed they said no- it was pretty generic, but when i spoke tot hem- they reviewed it and said we will honor it and you will see it on the billing statement after the 3 months
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: glasses dude on May 30, 2013, 01:25:29 PM
The SP WMC is officially dead. RIP.
Post if you have any success converting or applying.
thank g-d I got the wmc a month ago so gives me more time with insurance
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: how on May 30, 2013, 06:49:12 PM
Freedom.
If you close it you won't get it back.  But you can knock the credit line down to $500 and shift it elsewhere.
Sad stuff.
you'll have a hard time renting in Israel on a $500 credit line....
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: how on May 30, 2013, 06:53:58 PM
Now there is no WMC that covers israel?
???
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: thaber on May 31, 2013, 09:19:00 PM
The SP WMC is officially dead. RIP.
Post if you have any success converting or applying.
I converted last week, got the new card today and activated it no problem. Glad I didn't procrastinate more than I have been.
I plan to keep it for rentals in Israel, hopefully they'll keep on doing that for a while
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 01, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
Anyone else try converting in the past couple days?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Hiding on June 02, 2013, 12:42:10 AM
just applied for the MC directly last week and recon'd it by canceling a visa, but i guess then it still worked...
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ckmk47 on June 02, 2013, 03:46:25 AM
"I am pleased to confirm that I have changed your account to a Chase Sapphire Preferred MasterCard World as requested. "

I requested by sm to change my sp visa to a mc on 5/22.  They replied I'd lose benefits.  I asked this forum on 5/27 if I should change and was advised to do so.  Tonight I was browsing the forums and read this thread and was reminded that I forgot to reply to chase. 

I sm'd that I would indeed like to make the change.  I got back an answer within half an hour and in the middle of Saturday night!  Must be I'm the only fool doing banking at this hour.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: PETERP on June 02, 2013, 04:06:24 AM
"I am pleased to confirm that I have changed your account to a Chase Sapphire Preferred MasterCard World as requested. "

I requested by sm to change my sp visa to a mc on 5/22.  They replied I'd lose benefits.  I asked this forum on 5/27 if I should change and was advised to do so.  Tonight I was browsing the forums and read this thread and was reminded that I forgot to reply to chase. 

I sm'd that I would indeed like to make the change.  I got back an answer within half an hour and in the middle of Saturday night!  Must be I'm the only fool doing banking at this hour.

In the Philippines they don't have calendars or clocks  :)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on June 02, 2013, 05:11:50 PM
is the non preffered also dead?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: rochel on June 03, 2013, 01:13:51 AM
I cannot believe I missed this one, is it still worth trying, sm or call?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2013, 01:24:03 AM
Of course
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: rochel on June 03, 2013, 09:44:55 AM
I sm'ed and got it
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: shmooz on June 03, 2013, 10:15:17 AM
Now there is no WMC that covers israel?

CAP one wmc - no annual fee and no forex, covers cdw in israel per my confirmation letter.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on June 03, 2013, 10:55:22 AM
Now there is no WMC that covers israel?
My SPWMC still covers  :P
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on June 03, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
CAP one wmc - no annual fee and no forex, covers cdw in israel per my confirmation letter.
all WMC cover liability in israel , but in order to be a WMC u need a 5k cl and cap one only gives everyone $300 ;D
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: raccah on June 03, 2013, 12:42:34 PM
I got my card last week - called them right away and they switched for me to WMC. Initially it looked like two accounts - so I thought I would get double rewards - the Chase rep even said so! But then they merged the accounts and I missed out  :'(

I called back to chase and they gave me 5K as a replacement. Could have been worse.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 03, 2013, 12:59:30 PM
CAP one wmc - no annual fee and no forex, covers cdw in israel per my confirmation letter.

can you post a link?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: hocker on June 03, 2013, 01:04:23 PM
all WMC cover liability in israel , but in order to be a WMC u need a 5k cl and cap one only gives everyone $300 ;D
Seems you're confused.

Most WMC cover CDW in Israel.

I believe you can have a WMC with less than $5k, just that Chase might not approve SPWMC under $5k. CMIIW
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sruly101 on June 03, 2013, 01:10:21 PM
all WMC cover liability in israel , but in order to be a WMC u need a 5k cl and cap one only gives everyone $300 ;D
No CC in the world covers liability in Israel, And you must take it!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on June 03, 2013, 01:40:18 PM
I believe you can have a WMC with less than $5k, just that Chase might not approve SPWMC under $5k. CMIIW

+1, I once had a SP that had less than 5k CL after i transferred some of it out. It was Visa but I would think it works the same way for WMC?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on June 03, 2013, 04:22:49 PM
Seems you're confused.

Most WMC cover CDW in Israel.

I believe you can have a WMC with less than $5k, just that Chase might not approve SPWMC under $5k. CMIIW
-1 recently applied for a WMC from another bank upon  my decision was approved for 4k
My card came in the mail as a platinum master card I contacted the bank and they told me a min of 5k is required for a WMC
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: itsyehuda on June 03, 2013, 05:38:50 PM
Anyone else try converting in the past couple days?

SMed today, got both mine and my wife's converted successfully. They responded to the SM within a few minutes with a long message detailing what would change and asked for confirmation that I wanted to continue.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mgarfin on June 03, 2013, 05:44:50 PM
Just changed a card to mc

Also SM them on a different name, should I apply will I be able to get MC wating for reply

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: st1575 on June 03, 2013, 10:48:46 PM
Anyone else try converting in the past couple days?
Just got off the phone with a rep who processed my conversion after checking "if it was available." He mentioned that the old Visa and new MC stay tied to together for 30-60 days to facilitate changing recurring payments.

Other thing of note: He told me that Chase is adding an EMV chip  to the CSP "by the end of the year."
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: bruce on June 04, 2013, 09:26:14 AM
I have Saphire MC but not preffered.

Will that still get me rental in Israel?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 04, 2013, 09:27:27 AM
Yes (if it says World) but you'll pay Forex.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 04, 2013, 10:03:27 AM
I have the SP WMC right now, and just hit annual fee.

I Want to avoid the fee, but need the WMC for israel. should i first apply for SP visa then cancel the WMC and convert the visa, or should i first cancel the WMC and then apply for the visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 06, 2013, 07:56:03 AM
The app still loads...
And it loads no more.  :'(
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 06, 2013, 12:36:21 PM
And it loads no more.  :'(
But they are still converting...
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on June 06, 2013, 01:40:02 PM
I have the SP WMC right now, and just hit annual fee.

I Want to avoid the fee, but need the WMC for israel. should i first apply for SP visa then cancel the WMC and convert the visa, or should i first cancel the WMC and then apply for the visa?
maybe apply for one of the ink cards for a world elite card which should cover insurance in israel as well
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ari2955 on June 06, 2013, 04:10:39 PM
maybe apply for one of the ink cards for a world elite card which should cover insurance in israel as well
-1 does not cover
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: PPM on June 06, 2013, 04:43:01 PM
Yes (if it says World) but you'll pay Forex.
Is there an Annual Fee??
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: A European on June 06, 2013, 04:44:39 PM
Is there an Annual Fee??
No
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on June 06, 2013, 10:48:09 PM
-1 does not cover
just confirmed with chase will cover , as per my request they are sending me an updated policy
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 07, 2013, 01:07:35 AM
maybe apply for one of the ink cards for a world elite card which should cover insurance in israel as well

I already Have the INK Card but i read here it may only cover for business purposes?

Would love to be proven otherwise.

Also would anyone know by chance how long do i have from when annual fee posted to cancel my card and get it refunded ( Chase SP) or if i will get refunded at all?

Thanks
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Moshe123 on June 12, 2013, 05:46:26 AM
Successfully converted to WMC.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on June 12, 2013, 06:30:46 AM
Successfully converted to WMC.
just did same. today.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on June 12, 2013, 06:31:22 AM
has anyone had trouble lately converting to wmc?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 12, 2013, 06:54:20 AM
Just took about me 2 min to get it changed.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on June 12, 2013, 09:38:27 AM
Just took about me 2 min to get it changed.
how long does it take for the new card to show on the online profile?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 12, 2013, 09:41:01 AM
how long does it take for the new card to show on the online profile?
Don't know, it's been a while since I had to convert a card. Until now I just switched off between visa and MC when applying.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on June 12, 2013, 09:44:24 AM
Don't know, it's been a while since I had to convert a card. Until now I just switched off between visa and MC when applying.
that's what I just did, just wanted to know when it will show the new last 4 #'s instead of the old one
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Moshe123 on June 12, 2013, 09:50:21 AM
Is everyone converting for the same reason I did, namely that the only way to churn the card while keeping it open is to get a Mastercard while it lasts and apply for the Visa and close the Mastercard?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 12, 2013, 11:50:52 AM
Is everyone converting for the same reason I did, namely that the only way to churn the card while keeping it open is to get a Mastercard while it lasts and apply for the Visa and close the Mastercard?
That's why I did it, it makes churning a breeze.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: nhocquay on June 13, 2013, 12:18:00 AM
AF refund just posted after switching to MC version. So took approx a week to see it after conversion from Visa.
Seem like the visa version is still active since I can still see it in the online profile mirroring every transactions on the MC. And when I click on 'Go to Ultimate Rewards', I get the option to combine my points as if they are under two separate UR accounts. Funky!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: blue eyes on June 13, 2013, 11:13:43 AM
I just converted today from SP to WMC. I tried getting the signup bonus ( while converting ) but was told that I wont get it. Any chance I might still get it with an SM?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Moshe123 on June 13, 2013, 11:14:35 AM
I just converted today from SP to WMC. I tried getting the signup bonus ( while converting ) but was told that I wont get it. Any chance I might still get it with an SM?

Zilch
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: blue eyes on June 13, 2013, 11:24:21 AM
Zilch

Thanks- u just made my day- :(
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 14, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
So if i just got hit by AF on SP WMC, and i apply for Visa, and close the MC will they refund the AF?

If not what is the best method to get it refunded?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on June 14, 2013, 07:17:23 PM
So if i just got hit by AF on SP WMC, and i apply for Visa, and close the MC will they refund the AF?

If not what is the best method to get it refunded?

Yup. And you'll get an extra 43k UR. :)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 16, 2013, 10:15:39 PM
Yup. And you'll get an extra 43k UR. :)

Thanks! but i do need the WMC for israel rental in a month, with my Chase INK Elite WMC cover that, eben though not on business trip?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on June 17, 2013, 05:39:38 AM
Thanks! but i do need the WMC for israel rental in a month, with my Chase INK Elite WMC cover that, eben though not on business trip?
yes
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DP7 on June 17, 2013, 06:36:26 AM

Seem like the visa version is still active since I can still see it in the online profile mirroring every transactions on the MC. And when I click on 'Go to Ultimate Rewards', I get the option to combine my points as if they are under two separate UR accounts. Funky!

Try to combine the points. It will not work.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on June 17, 2013, 06:38:47 AM
Try to combine the points. It will not work.
+1 wouldn't work.
Chase online is a bit slow ,, some of my canceled cards were still
Showing up online almost 2 months after canceld
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: 123ablack on June 17, 2013, 07:41:45 PM
Has anyone lately managed have them turn it into a WMC via SM?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DP7 on June 17, 2013, 08:22:19 PM

Has anyone lately managed have them turn it into a WMC via SM?
[/quote
Yes. Within the past 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on June 18, 2013, 01:29:38 AM
Has anyone lately managed have them turn it into a WMC via SM?
yes. me
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 18, 2013, 08:16:41 PM
Yup. And you'll get an extra 43k UR. :)

Great, should i first apply for the visa and wait for pending to offer to cancel my WMC for Visa or should i close it first?

also what happens to the points associated with the WMC do i need to transfer them to my ink first so i don;t loose them?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on June 19, 2013, 06:54:18 AM
Great, should i first apply for the visa and wait for pending to offer to cancel my WMC for Visa or should i close it first?

also what happens to the points associated with the WMC do i need to transfer them to my ink first so i don;t loose them?
1: doesn't make a difference. Buy if you close it first of course transfer CL to another card and....

2: transfer all ur to another card first (ink)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 19, 2013, 12:00:04 PM
1: doesn't make a difference. Buy if you close it first of course transfer CL to another card and....

2: transfer all ur to another card first (ink)

1. Thanks, so i will get the AF refunded in both ways?
2. Thanks i will.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Shmulyg on June 19, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
so i will get the AF refunded in both ways?
Yes.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Travelandcredit on June 19, 2013, 10:09:03 PM
Don't know, it's been a while since I had to convert a card. Until now I just switched off between visa and MC when applying.

You just convert your current card to the opposite, then apply for the card you just changed?... after how long do you apply again? Always seen/heard the strategy but just never done it.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: magnus on June 25, 2013, 04:46:22 PM
Updated datapoint...

Just converted my CSPWMC to a Freedom MC over the phone (just before my AF hit).  Call was straightforward.  I asked, they confirmed it possible, and I confirmed I wanted to. 
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: avadah on June 25, 2013, 06:46:43 PM
Are people having issues switching the SPV to the SPWMC or is it still easy to do?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DP7 on June 25, 2013, 06:56:44 PM

Are people having issues switching the SPV to the SPWMC or is it still easy to do?

Very easy.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: presidentialplus on June 25, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
Updated datapoint...

Just converted my CSPWMC to a Freedom MC over the phone (just before my AF hit).  Call was straightforward.  I asked, they confirmed it possible, and I confirmed I wanted to.

Is there any benefit of having a Freedom MC over a Visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 25, 2013, 08:02:46 PM
Yes.


so i applied for the visa,

called recon today they said i was denied because i already have the master card. soi said please close the master card to approve the visa

she put me on hold, then came back and said she can do it but i won't get the bonus points

what have i done wrong?

I called the number from wiki  Chase Recon #- 1-888-270-2127
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DP7 on June 25, 2013, 08:03:34 PM

so i applied for the visa,

called recon today they said i was denied because i already have the master card. soi said please close the master card to approve the visa

she put me on hold, then came back and said she can do it but i won't get the bonus points

what have i done wrong?

I called the number from wiki  Chase Recon #- 1-888-270-2127

I believe they say you won't but everyone has received them anyway.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on June 25, 2013, 08:29:33 PM
I believe they say you won't but everyone has received them anyway.

Are you sure? so i should just tell them to go ahead and switch it? how do i make sure they actually "approve" my application and don't just switch my WMC to a visa
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Bostener on June 26, 2013, 12:42:58 AM
Are people having issues switching the SPV to the SPWMC or is it still easy to do?


I just changed least week to SPWMC. It want trough without any problem.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: magnus on June 26, 2013, 03:16:37 AM
Is there any benefit of having a Freedom MC over a Visa?
Other than the usual MC over Visa benefits.  Like Sam's Club payability. =)

The better benefit is that now I have both a Freedom MC and a Freedom Visa so I can double up on the 5% categories.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on June 26, 2013, 05:19:36 AM
so i applied for the visa,

called recon today they said i was denied because i already have the master card. soi said please close the master card to approve the visa

she put me on hold, then came back and said she can do it but i won't get the bonus points

what have i done wrong?

I called the number from wiki  Chase Recon #- 1-888-270-2127
Believed a CSR.  :P
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sruly101 on June 26, 2013, 06:24:47 AM
so i applied for the visa,

called recon today they said i was denied because i already have the master card. soi said please close the master card to approve the visa

she put me on hold, then came back and said she can do it but i won't get the bonus points

what have i done wrong?

I called the number from wiki  Chase Recon #- 1-888-270-2127
It should be ok!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: itsyehuda on June 26, 2013, 05:31:32 PM
I SM'ed to switch Sapphire WMC to Freedom. Response Below:

Thank you for showing interest to have a Chase Freedom
Mastercard.

At this time, the option to change your current card to a
Chase Freedom Mastercard is unavailable. An account that
is open less than 12 months is not eligible to change to a
different product.
I apologize for any inconvenience this
may cause you.

Further, as an alternative, you may apply for a new Chase
Freedom Ultimate account. The new applications are
available on-line at our secure website. Please visit our
website referenced below for the most current offers and
terms available:

http://www.creditcards.chase.com

When selecting the credit card that best meets your needs,
please remember that our policy no longer allows for
customers to have more than one credit card in the same
product.
Applications for a card product you already have
may not be eligible for approval.

If we can help you with your account in any other way,
please send us a secured e-mail or call us at the number
listed below.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Chapshnell on June 26, 2013, 05:33:23 PM
@itsyehuda I RECEIVED JUST NOW THE SAME RESPONSE!!
What do we do?!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: magnus on June 27, 2013, 03:42:48 PM
What do we do?!
Why not wait til you reach 12 months?  The AF doesn't hit until a few weeks after 12 months so you have time in case you don't like seeing an AF.  Even if the AF hits, once you convert your account, the AF should disappear as long as its within 30 days (possibly more, but why push it)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Chapshnell on June 27, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
@magnus because I want to start the 12 month clock ticking to when I can apply for the sapphire again. Please help
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DP7 on June 27, 2013, 06:49:36 PM
@magnus because I want to start the 12 month clock ticking to when I can apply for the sapphire again. Please help
Does chase work an a 12 month schedule like Amex?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
No
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on June 27, 2013, 08:09:09 PM
No

Ken yehi ratzon (continue).
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DP7 on June 27, 2013, 09:00:27 PM

No

Didn't think so.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Chapshnell on June 27, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
So can someone please enlighten me if not 12 months then what timeframe yes?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: magnus on June 28, 2013, 05:32:32 AM
So can someone please enlighten me if not 12 months then what timeframe yes?

Some have said you can reapply the same or next day.  If you're concerned, just wait 30 days, which I believe is the amount of days they can still re-open a closed account.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Travelandcredit on July 08, 2013, 02:02:12 PM
Some have said you can reapply the same or next day.  If you're concerned, just wait 30 days, which I believe is the amount of days they can still re-open a closed account.

Just got the fee on my visa. Suppose I just cancel it to get the AF refunded, and then apply on my next round of apps for the visa again? Seen a few people on here say you can re-apply for the CSPV pretty quickly after canceling and still get the bonus.

Data points recently, anyone?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mmermss on July 08, 2013, 02:57:00 PM
Just got the fee on my visa. Suppose I just cancel it to get the AF refunded, and then apply on my next round of apps for the visa again? Seen a few people on here say you can re-apply for the CSPV pretty quickly after canceling and still get the bonus.

Data points recently, anyone?

Basically you can downgrade the SP to either a Freedom or regular sapphire and apply for new SP and offer to transfer CL when calling recon (if not approved right away).

Other option is to convert the SP into a MC (if it isnt already) and apply for the SP Visa and during recon transfer all CL from SPMC to SP Visa to open new Visa.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: goals^n^dreams on July 09, 2013, 08:00:15 PM
when is master version available again? :)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: EMES on July 09, 2013, 08:50:05 PM
when is master version available again? :)
די פרעגסט קשיא׳ס, אפילו די רבי וויסט נישט.
Title: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: itsyehuda on July 16, 2013, 12:16:15 AM
My wife called to downgrade her SP WMC to a non preferred.

The card just came and its a visa! Will she be able to get approved for the sp? She's in middle of a recon / downgrade cycle.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mgarfin on July 24, 2013, 02:22:58 PM
Will a charge by home away / vrbo get double points?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on September 02, 2013, 09:32:31 PM
Anyone have success converting SP visa to SP mastercard recently?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on September 02, 2013, 10:49:36 PM

Anyone have success converting SP visa to SP mastercard recently?
What should have changed? I thought its a simple process.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on September 02, 2013, 11:47:14 PM
What should have changed? I thought its a simple process.

I was just wondering if it was still working....(wanted an update)

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: danfan5773 on September 03, 2013, 02:12:31 AM
 :-[ just got hit with AF on my sapphire MC that was switch from visa to avoid AF is there anything i can do?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 03, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
Anyone have success converting SP visa to SP mastercard recently?
i switched 2 weeks ago and got my SP mastercard last week
i was approaching the fee, and now i get another fee free year
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on September 03, 2013, 11:25:10 AM
When you switch to A MasterCard do you still get your 7% bonus on all you spent previously on the visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: george on September 03, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
Is there an optimal time to convert SP Visa to SP MC so as to ensure that upon conversion the AF will be waived for a year? Should I wait until the AF posts on my SP Visa before converting? Should I convert right before the AF posts? Or does it not matter at all?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on September 03, 2013, 11:45:31 AM
I believe the best time to do it is once the AF posts, someone can CMIIW.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 03, 2013, 12:03:20 PM
i knew my AF was coming very soon so I didnt want to take the chance and so I did it before
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 03, 2013, 02:14:50 PM
The annual fee showed up on my account
i called up and the representative was telling me that since its the same account i will still incur the fee
i told her thats not what i was told
she went to go speak to her manager and confirmed that i was right.
so as of today, there is confirmation that you can switch from SP visa to SP mastercard
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: george on September 03, 2013, 02:25:17 PM
The annual fee showed up on my account
i called up and the representative was telling me that since its the same account i will still incur the fee
i told her thats not what i was told
she went to go speak to her manager and confirmed that i was right.
so as of today, there is confirmation that you can switch from SP visa to SP mastercard
So the CSR credited your account for the AF?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 03, 2013, 03:01:35 PM
7-10 days
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on September 03, 2013, 03:38:35 PM
The annual fee showed up on my account
i called up and the representative was telling me that since its the same account i will still incur the fee
i told her thats not what i was told
she went to go speak to her manager and confirmed that i was right.
so as of today, there is confirmation that you can switch from SP visa to SP mastercard

THAT you can switch from Visa to MC is confirmed (even after the scare posts by some). No news there.

Also, you can't really confirm that the fee was waived after the AF posts as a general rule, because you were told differently prior to the imposition of the fee, so you're case may be unique.

All that said, I believe there have been reports of the fee disappearing(?)/being removed(?) once it posts and the switch is done.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 03, 2013, 03:52:45 PM
the CSR checked with her manager and she admitted she had been wrong, that in fact there should be no fee after switching from SP visa to SP mastercard
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on September 03, 2013, 03:54:41 PM
the CSR checked with her manager and she admitted she had been wrong, that in fact there should be no fee after switching from SP visa to SP mastercard
Or just do it right and it happens automatically.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on September 03, 2013, 04:02:16 PM
Or just do it right and it happens automatically.

I think ^ confirms:

I believe the best time to do it is once the AF posts, someone can CMIIW.

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: danfan5773 on September 03, 2013, 06:06:07 PM
:-[ just got hit with AF on my sapphire MC that was switch from visa to avoid AF is there anything i can do?
  can someone please help me here.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 03, 2013, 06:42:37 PM
seriously?
i just posted that this happened to me and i called up and they admitted it was a mistake
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: PETERP on September 03, 2013, 06:49:38 PM
  can someone please help me here.

It also happened to me , and I called up and they would not waive it. They were adamant about it, and I cancelled the card , rather than pay the fee.

So at best YMMV IMO
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on September 03, 2013, 06:53:45 PM
seriously?
i just posted that this happened to me and i called up and they admitted it was a mistake

As I said, and as PETERP just reiterated, your experience does not prove anything conclusively.

Dan MAY have confirmed it, but didn't confirm my confirmation, so until he or someone else does...
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on September 10, 2013, 01:23:44 AM
I sent an SM to convert from SP visa to SP world mastercard. This was the reply (no explanation given). Guess ill call tomorrow.

"Thank you for contacting Chase about product change to a
Chase Sapphire Preferred Mastercard.

I regret to inform you that at this time, I'm unable to
change your account to a different product. I apologize
for any inconvenience this may cause you.

As an alternative, you may apply for a new Chase Sapphire
Preferred Mastercard product. New applications are
available on-line at our secure website. Please visit our
website referenced below for the most current offers and
terms available:"
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: night-owl on September 10, 2013, 04:56:53 AM
After my AF hit on my SPV I called to downgrade to regular Visa (same CC #). CSR said I will receive credit for AF.  Credit posted about 10 days later. I then called back to upgrade to SPWMC and received new cards in mail (new CC#).
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 10, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
so maybe the key is to call up before the AF hits
i called up days before and they approved it
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on September 10, 2013, 08:53:24 PM
I sent an SM to convert from SP visa to SP world mastercard. This was the reply (no explanation given). Guess ill call tomorrow.

"Thank you for contacting Chase about product change to a
Chase Sapphire Preferred Mastercard.

I regret to inform you that at this time, I'm unable to
change your account to a different product. I apologize
for any inconvenience this may cause you.

As an alternative, you may apply for a new Chase Sapphire
Preferred Mastercard product. New applications are
available on-line at our secure website. Please visit our
website referenced below for the most current offers and
terms available:"

Called today and got my SP visa converted to SP world mastercard on the spot no questions asked. This was after the AF hit on my Visa, now i need to wait and see if the annual fee goes away on my MasterCard.............will it?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: AJK on September 10, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
Called today and got my SP visa converted to SP world mastercard on the spot no questions asked. This was after the AF hit on my Visa, now i need to wait and see if the annual fee goes away on my MasterCard.............will it?

So Dan seems to say... :)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 11, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
mine went away about a week after i notified them
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on September 11, 2013, 02:29:33 PM
mine went away about a week after i notified them

What did you "notify" them of? (what did u say?)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sam28 on September 11, 2013, 05:51:32 PM
my af came up on my Sapphire vise should I upgrade it to the master and then apply for the visa again and will I get the 40k points again ?

how long will I have to wait till I apply again ?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on September 11, 2013, 05:58:09 PM
my af came up on my Sapphire vise should I upgrade it to the master and then apply for the visa again and will I get the 40k points again ?

how long will I have to wait till I apply again ?
Yes upgrade it, apply for this visa again and you'll receive the points. As far as how long to wait there's no real time frame you can technically reapply right a way, it just might raise some questions.

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sam28 on September 11, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
when u change it to the master card does It have to be the no fee card in order to get back the AF or in can be the prefer card ?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: gozalim on September 11, 2013, 11:13:51 PM
Or just do it right and it happens automatically.
1. "right"= convert before AF hits?
2. If you convert after AF hits, will it still credit automatically?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 12, 2013, 08:54:29 AM
I called up right before my AF was gonna hit and i asked to switch to SP mastercard. they said yes
about a week later, i noticed the $95 charge, so i called up, and at first she said its the same account so there is a fee, but i told her thats not what i was told. she spoke to her manager and apologized profusely, saying she thought she knew everything there was to know about SP and now i helped her find out something new.
about a week later i had the refund
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Chuck2 on September 12, 2013, 05:48:15 PM
When you switch to A MasterCard do you still get your 7% bonus on all you spent previously on the visa?
I could not find an answer to this, has anyone that converted their SP Visa into MasterCard get their 7% bonus on all that was spent previously on the visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: MilesNpoints on September 12, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
I could not find an answer to this, has anyone that converted their SP Visa into MasterCard get their 7% bonus on all that was spent previously on the visa?

Took the words right out of my mouth.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on September 21, 2013, 11:23:57 PM
I believe the best time to do it is once the AF posts, someone can CMIIW.

I just converted my SP Visa to a SP Mastercard after the AF showed up and after about a week the fee disappeared from my account (it was actually reimbursed). Also, FYI I did not SM or call
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: gozalim on September 21, 2013, 11:24:46 PM
how about switching MC to Visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on September 22, 2013, 01:06:06 AM
how about switching MC to Visa?
Why would you? Just reapply for the Visa.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on September 22, 2013, 03:51:04 AM
when switching from Visa to MC will i get the 40K points again?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Saver2000 on September 22, 2013, 03:59:59 AM
when switching from Visa to MC will i get the 40K points again?
No.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on September 22, 2013, 05:06:29 AM
No.

But then I can reapply for the visa and get the points again?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: raphy781 on September 22, 2013, 05:58:03 AM
But then I can reapply for the visa and get the points again?
Yes.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: gozalim on September 30, 2013, 03:23:50 AM
handed my expired card to my BIL, told him to destroy it. he folded back and forth for a few minutes:
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Chuck2 on October 06, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
I could not find an answer to this, has anyone that converted their SP Visa into MasterCard get their 7% bonus on all that was spent previously on the visa?
Bump
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on October 06, 2013, 01:05:39 PM
Bump

Someone can CMIIW but since your account has a new number you will not get the 7% bonus.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: night-owl on October 06, 2013, 01:09:44 PM
handed my expired card to my BIL, told him to destroy it. he folded back and forth for a few minutes:

When I got my new card they included a small envelope with slots to return the old card for them to dispose of.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: jaiice on October 06, 2013, 02:26:35 PM
I am new to churning chase credit cards and want to make sure I got it right.

I have a Sapphire Preferred Visa card now. To be able to get the bonus points again, I am planning to do the following steps.

1. Convert my SP Visa to SP World Master card (or can I convert to the no fee Sapphire card?)
2. Close my SP WMC and move the CL to my other chase cards within a month
3. Reapply for SP Visa after a couple of months and get the 40k signup bonus again  (I know I dont need to wait, but planning to wait to combine with my other applications).

I would be grateful if someone could confirm this.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on October 06, 2013, 02:27:57 PM
I am new to churning chase credit cards and want to make sure I got it right.

I have a Sapphire Preferred Visa card now. To be able to get the bonus points again, I am planning to do the following steps.

1. Convert my SP Visa to SP World Master card (or can I convert to the no fee Sapphire card?)
2. Close my SP WMC and move the CL to my other chase cards
3. Reapply for SP Visa and get the 40k signup bonus again after a couple of months (I know I dont need to wait, but planning to wait to combine with my other applications).

I would be grateful if someone could confirm this.
Yes this is good but you need not close the SP WMC to reapply for the Visa and get the bonus again.

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: jaiice on October 06, 2013, 04:37:36 PM
Thank you for the confirmation.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Chuck2 on October 06, 2013, 04:53:21 PM
Someone can CMIIW but since your account has a new number you will not get the 7% bonus.
In that case if you lose your card and they issue you a new card (they change the last four digits) then you'll loose the 7%...?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on October 06, 2013, 06:23:03 PM
In that case if you lose your card and they issue you a new card (they change the last four digits) then you'll loose the 7%...?
Its a new SP WMC and that's what changes.

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: smiley face on October 14, 2013, 06:34:04 PM
Just called to convert my CSP Visa to a Master Card, and they said they no longer do that?!?
I called 2x.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on October 14, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
Just called to convert my CSP Visa to a Master Card, and they said they no longer do that?!?
I called 2x.

Is it within the first year? 
Try SM
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: smiley face on October 14, 2013, 06:47:49 PM
yes
I asked will it be available at a later time and he said that they are no longer offering it.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2013, 06:57:05 PM
Doesn't matter too much. It's all changing 11/01.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dd321 on October 14, 2013, 07:08:34 PM

Doesn't matter too much. It's all changing 11/01.
care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: smiley face on October 14, 2013, 07:31:39 PM
care to elaborate?
+1
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ari2955 on October 14, 2013, 08:20:04 PM
care to elaborate?
+1
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on October 14, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
Pretty much every Chase card is moving on 11/01 to their new benefit provider.
Whether it covers Israel is still unknown but the SWMC won't have any advantage over the Visa.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: smiley face on October 14, 2013, 10:57:41 PM
Pretty much every Chase card is moving on 11/01 to their new benefit provider.
Whether it covers Israel is still unknown but the SWMC won't have any advantage over the Visa.
Thanks for the heads up. Called a few times and csr didn't budge.
Renting a car in Israel in November so hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DoGo on October 14, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
Pretty much every Chase card is moving on 11/01 to their new benefit provider.
Whether it covers Israel is still unknown but the SWMC won't have any advantage over the Visa.
is there ANY card that is known to cover?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on October 14, 2013, 11:03:15 PM
is there ANY card that is known to cover?

(Chase Sapphire )World MasterCard.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: DoGo on October 14, 2013, 11:20:02 PM
(Chase Sapphire )World MasterCard.
Known now for after 11/13
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: itsyehuda on October 15, 2013, 05:15:20 PM
Can this card still be downgraded to a Freedom MasterCard?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: compddd on October 15, 2013, 07:17:11 PM
Can this card still be downgraded to a Freedom MasterCard?

I just sent Chase an SM to downgrade to a Freedom card and was denied.

Did Chase change their policy?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2013, 07:19:09 PM
PUTPAC?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: itsyehuda on October 15, 2013, 07:56:04 PM
PUTPAC?

I am asking here because on the phone they told me it wasn't an option, but I could downgrade to a Sapphire Non-Preferred.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2013, 07:58:58 PM
Huca.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: chff on October 19, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
I SM'ed that I would like to change to a MC, they replied that they offer it, and I should reply to confirm that I want to change
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: chff on October 20, 2013, 11:07:28 PM
I SM'ed that I would like to change to a MC, they replied that they offer it, and I should reply to confirm that I want to change

Phew...


Thank you for contacting Chase.

I do apologize for the previous reply, as the option to
change to a Master card is currently not available.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: davidd75 on October 23, 2013, 03:34:27 PM
Is the chase sapphire preferred mastercard version over?  Chase rep told me  mastercard version no longer available.  Their relationship/contract with mastercard is over
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: @Yehuda on October 23, 2013, 03:38:21 PM
Is the chase sapphire preferred mastercard version over?  Chase rep told me  mastercard version no longer available.  Their relationship/contract with mastercard is over

As of a few days ago, I was offered to switch to MC.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: notanonymous on October 24, 2013, 02:07:21 AM
Is the chase sapphire preferred mastercard version over?  Chase rep told me  mastercard version no longer available.  Their relationship/contract with mastercard is over
HUCA
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: davidd75 on October 24, 2013, 12:54:46 PM
HUCA

speaking from experience??
has anybody gotten chase to switch to mastercard version in the last 2 days

Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: rcarentals on October 24, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
mastercard change denied by 1 agent in florida, and 2 agents in Springfield Missouri.
Orlando told me over next year all sapphire preferred, freedom and slate cards, will be pro-actively swapped to Visa. change was started last week. so now it is even more YMMV.

please post success story and method if swapped from today on..

one agent explained - he selects the "product change" option on his system. in my case my freedom is less then 1 year so it doesn't offer him to change it, but in the case of my sapphire, it offers, him a bunch of cards, it offers the SP visa non signature, (mine is sig) reg sapphire, slate and freedom. he says it used to have mastercard but no longer does.

im pondering whether all their systems are updated at once, and whether some computers are still not updated with this new update.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: A European on October 25, 2013, 01:13:10 AM
mastercard change denied by 1 agent in florida, and 2 agents in Springfield Missouri.
Orlando told me over next year all sapphire preferred, freedom and slate cards, will be pro-actively swapped to Visa. change was started last week. so now it is even more YMMV.

please post success story and method if swapped from today on..

one agent explained - he selects the "product change" option on his system. in my case my freedom is less then 1 year so it doesn't offer him to change it, but in the case of my sapphire, it offers, him a bunch of cards, it offers the SP visa non signature, (mine is sig) reg sapphire, slate and freedom. he says it used to have mastercard but no longer does.

im pondering whether all their systems are updated at once, and whether some computers are still not updated with this new update.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33391.0
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on November 06, 2013, 05:00:24 AM
I just sent Chase an SM to downgrade to a Freedom card and was denied.

Did Chase change their policy?

I had chase downgrade, over the phone, my SP to reg S. later I called and switched to freedom. i'm not sure why i choose to go to reg S first and not try my luck going straight to the freedom, but maybe try this!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: night-owl on November 06, 2013, 12:15:33 PM
I received an email from CSP MC for bonus points when shopping through Ultimate rewards e.g. 10 ppd $1 @ kohls, 5 ppd $1 @ Macy, checkout with CSP

beats the freedom 5ppd
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Toasted on November 06, 2013, 12:25:12 PM
I received an email from CSP MC for bonus points when shopping through Ultimate rewards e.g. 10 ppd $1 @ kohls, 5 ppd $1 @ Macy, checkout with CSP

beats the freedom 5ppd

I believe that if you purchase through UR Mall with Freedom, you'll get the same bonus PLUS the 5% Q4.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: lybbtthl on November 06, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
I believe that if you purchase through UR Mall with Freedom, you'll get the same bonus PLUS the 5% Q4.
IME you're correct
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: dealfinder85 on November 06, 2013, 04:01:05 PM
IME you're correct
i cnat guarantee but i believe thats correct

i used a gift card in UR mall and got the points, so a freedom shouldnt be any different
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: lifetimedeals on December 03, 2013, 10:56:33 AM
If I downgrade SP world m/c before February when they issue the 7% bonus will I lose the bonus ?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on December 03, 2013, 11:51:21 AM
i cnat guarantee but i believe thats correct

i used a gift card in UR mall and got the points, so a freedom shouldnt be any different

Chase guarantees it. It's an advertised benefit. For example:

https://creditcards.chase.com/freedom/earnmore
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: lifetimedeals on December 03, 2013, 05:11:55 PM
Would anybody know if the world mastercard is still a factor for Israel car rentals or not? what is the major advantage from world m/c versus visa s/p?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: A European on December 30, 2013, 05:46:32 AM
Is the mastercard still available by converting it from visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2013, 05:55:48 AM

Is the mastercard still available by converting it from visa?

All signs point to a Yes
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: midnightinharlem on December 30, 2013, 11:51:17 AM
All signs point to a Yes

What signs are you referring to? Everything I have seen in the past month or so says that Chase is exiting its partnership with MC and all MCs will be converted to Visa going forward.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: ari2955 on December 30, 2013, 11:58:17 AM
What signs are you referring to? Everything I have seen in the past month or so says that Chase is exiting its partnership with MC and all MCs will be converted to Visa going forward.
+1
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: m65 on January 01, 2014, 02:08:27 AM
Would anybody know if the world mastercard is still a factor for Israel car rentals or not? what is the major advantage from world m/c versus visa s/p?
all chase cards cover in israel now
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: night-owl on January 01, 2014, 02:17:28 AM
all chase cards cover in israel now
If I'm an AU on a CSP Visa will I be covered as well?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Marco Polo on April 16, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
Just received a letter saying they are switching me over to the Visa version. Anything i can do to keep MC?

Don't really want to break my cycle just for this card.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on April 16, 2014, 10:12:01 PM

Just received a letter saying they are switching me over to the Visa version. Anything i can do to keep MC?

Don't really want to break my cycle just for this card.
Do in terms of what? Keep it at MC?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Marco Polo on April 16, 2014, 10:51:14 PM
Do in terms of what? Keep it at MC?
Yes. Seems like there is a set date where they will be converting everyones cards. Would like to delay it as long as i can.
Title: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: chucksterace on April 16, 2014, 10:53:22 PM
Yes. Seems like there is a set date where they will be converting everyones cards. Would like to delay it as long as i can.

If true >:( >:(
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on April 16, 2014, 11:16:03 PM

Yes. Seems like there is a set date where they will be converting everyones cards. Would like to delay it as long as i can.
I doubt it will be possible they've been phasing this change of their cards for a while already.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mr. perfect on April 17, 2014, 02:18:04 AM
Any body had such a thing like this....... had 46,000 ur in my shappire account and transfered it out to united and showed a balance of 0   .... then downgraded to freedom and my ur balance says 46,000 ur !?!?!?????
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Myccrabbi on April 17, 2014, 02:26:08 AM
Any body had such a thing like this....... had 46,000 ur in my shappire account and transfered it out to united and showed a balance of 0   .... then downgraded to freedom and my ur balance says 46,000 ur !?!?!?????
did you check ur united account to see if it did transfer?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mr. perfect on April 17, 2014, 07:30:36 AM
It def did
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on April 17, 2014, 07:40:09 AM
It def did
Transfer again to United and reupgrade to Sapphire 8)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mr. perfect on April 17, 2014, 09:07:00 AM
Problem is now I I dont have shapphire /ink to quikly get it out
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on April 17, 2014, 10:02:22 AM
Problem is now I I dont have shapphire /ink to quikly get it out
No family members with same last name to transfer to?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mr. perfect on April 17, 2014, 01:01:30 PM
Huh? You cant transfer without shapphire or ink I thought .....
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Ephcc90 on April 17, 2014, 02:46:16 PM

Huh? You cant transfer without shapphire or ink I thought .....
To airlines/hotels etc
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mr. perfect on April 17, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
????I dont see any option to transfer to someone else ?    Can you enlighten me
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on April 17, 2014, 08:10:14 PM

????I dont see any option to transfer to someone else ?    Can you enlighten me
I may be mistaken, I haven't had a freedom in over a year.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Freddie on April 27, 2014, 06:54:44 PM
Is there any way to get a Sapphire Mastercard anymore thereby getting the bonus again right after canceling the SP Visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on April 27, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
Is there any way to get a Sapphire Mastercard anymore thereby getting the bonus again right after canceling the SP Visa?
I don't believe so, how about downgrading to the non-preferred version?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Freddie on April 27, 2014, 08:31:21 PM
I don't believe so, how about downgrading to the non-preferred version?

Ok, thanks.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: shiframeir on May 15, 2014, 12:39:11 AM
I still have the sapphire mastercard, but it doenst have any special chip tech (or at least i dont think it does), will that be a problem in israel these days?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sky121 on May 15, 2014, 12:53:38 AM
I still have the sapphire mastercard, but it doenst have any special chip tech (or at least i dont think it does), will that be a problem in israel these days?
Not at all.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Redbull3 on June 20, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
????I dont see any option to transfer to someone else ?    Can you enlighten me

Ultimaterewards.com>earn faster>combine ultimate rewards points>in transfer to section select other
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sfasemes on July 13, 2014, 02:21:00 PM
I just got a letter from Chase telling me they are cancelling the Sapphire Mastercard that I have and replacing it with a Sapphire Visa with a chip.  They are getting rid of Mastercard.  Will we be able to rent a car in Israel with the Sapphire Visa? Or should we use the United Plus card?  I wonder why Chase is dropping Mastercard.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on July 13, 2014, 02:30:52 PM

I just got a letter from Chase telling me they are cancelling the Sapphire Mastercard that I have and replacing it with a Sapphire Visa with a chip.  They are getting rid of Mastercard.  Will we be able to rent a car in Israel with the Sapphire Visa? Or should we use the United Plus card?  I wonder why Chase is dropping Mastercard.
They've been changing over for sometime now, I believe the Sapphire Visa has the same coverages in Israel that the MC had.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Red on July 13, 2014, 03:04:42 PM
I just got a letter from Chase telling me they are cancelling the Sapphire Mastercard that I have and replacing it with a Sapphire Visa with a chip.  They are getting rid of Mastercard.  Will we be able to rent a car in Israel with the Sapphire Visa? Or should we use the United Plus card?  I wonder why Chase is dropping Mastercard.
Yes the visa covers rentals in Israel, I just got a letter of coverage emailed to me.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sfasemes on July 13, 2014, 03:09:32 PM
Thank you for the information.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on July 14, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
Is there any way to get a Sapphire Mastercard anymore thereby getting the bonus again right after canceling the SP Visa?
Why don't you get the Visa again?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Novo on July 15, 2014, 11:11:07 PM
My annual fee is due this month, should I downgrade to Freedom or reg. Sapphire? Is there any benefit on the Sapphire?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: sfasemes on July 15, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
There are many benefits to the Sapphire.  Read all about it on Dansdeals.com Click on the 3rd tab where it says "credit cards" and you will see it is well worth the annual renewal fee.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Super Speed on July 15, 2014, 11:40:52 PM

There are many benefits to the Sapphire.  Read all about it on Dansdeals.com Click on the 3rd tab where it says "credit cards" and you will see it is well worth the annual renewal fee.
Or close it and open a new one in a month :)
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Novo on July 16, 2014, 09:07:26 AM
There are many benefits to the Sapphire.  Read all about it on Dansdeals.com Click on the 3rd tab where it says "credit cards" and you will see it is well worth the annual renewal fee.
My question is, if there's any benefit to the reg. Sapphire. + If one has an Ink I think the only think he'd be missing is the 2-3X on dining, is it worth $95?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Novo on July 16, 2014, 09:07:55 AM
Or close it and open a new one in a month :)
:D I try to keep my churning moderate...
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: KidOOO on July 16, 2014, 06:53:52 PM
:D I try to keep my churning moderate...
Now why would you do that
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: mawmaw on July 16, 2014, 07:00:47 PM
My annual fee is due this month, should I downgrade to Freedom or reg. Sapphire? Is there any benefit on the Sapphire?
when i called to down grade i was told one cannot down grade to freedom only to the no annual fee sapphire got the same answer after HUCA   few times
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Novo on July 16, 2014, 09:04:02 PM
when i called to down grade i was told one cannot down grade to freedom only to the no annual fee sapphire got the same answer after HUCA   few times
It depends on the account, my account I wasn't able to downgrade to freedom and my wife's they did ( same phone call same rep )
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: zlt123 on July 22, 2014, 12:30:21 PM
if i have the MC what argument could i tell tham for geting the visa? why should i need both?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Novo on July 22, 2014, 12:53:35 PM
if i have the MC what argument could i tell tham for geting the visa? why should i need both?
so my question is like this. I currently have the saphire MC and on DDF there is a lot of reports of people having both so last week i applied for the visa version and i called recon and i HUCA 6 times spoke to 6 diffrent reps 2 superviser but the all said no go there is no such a thing as having both the MC and the Visa the only thing i could do is close the MC and open the Visa so now my Q is what am i doing rong? what sould i tell them to convince tham to give me both? and i close the MC iam gonne loose out on the %7 div. and it a nice sum. also if i do close and open the visa will i still be eligabile for the %7 since i applied before they stopped the %7 ? thanks very much iam waiting to hear any advice
what did you tell tham? i tried HUCA 5-6 times they all read the notes and all say the same it is impossible to have both. Dis they let you keep the MC? i even tried by closing another card and shifting over the credit but it didnt help.
:-*
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: zlt123 on July 22, 2014, 01:06:21 PM
just say you dont have an answear whats your problam
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Novo on July 22, 2014, 01:17:35 PM
just say you dont have an answear whats your problam
One of the forum rules is: No cross posting

My suggestion is you should give it a day and then try to HUCA again and explain them that you're buying a lot in a store that doesn't except MC but you do want to keep your current account because of the history bla bla bla and of course you should use the method from iherman and say all your arguments before they place you on hold.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: zlt123 on July 22, 2014, 01:32:03 PM
Thanks for anwering. I told tham alredy that i need it for stores that dont take MC i also told them evrything in the bla bla bla erea but ill try your advice and wait a day a try again before they put me on hold
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: tageed-lee on August 06, 2014, 12:33:03 PM
My Sapphire World MasterCard has started to change over to a Visa account. I called a rep and she explained that my card is still considered a Mastercard until early September when it will completely switch over to Visa. She went on to explain that they are starting early to give notice to all customers.

With that in mind: My question is, does anyone think i can still apply for the Visa and use my Mastercard as leverage to churn the Sapphire and get the Visa approved? 
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Homeandl on September 08, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
So I just realized that my Sapphire replacement card is a Visa not a MasterCard (which was great in Israel for car rentals), but as it turns out its all good since with all the new changes, Chase Sapphire Preferred card now includes primary rental car coverage including Israel

so no harm done there!
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Tzfas on September 22, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
I got a letter today from chase that the master cards will be changed over to visa and I should receive my new card by Nov 20.
Also that the new "visa" account number will start showing up in your online profile come Oct.
 
So now may be a good time to apply for a visa card before they change it for you.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: zlt123 on September 23, 2014, 01:15:09 PM
Tried and failed
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Marco Polo on September 23, 2014, 01:45:41 PM
Tried and failed
In regards to what?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: zlt123 on September 23, 2014, 03:54:09 PM
i have a MC i applied for the Visa and they did not wanna give it to me even after several HUCAs, They kept saying its the same product.
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Marco Polo on September 23, 2014, 03:55:15 PM
i have a MC i applied for the Visa and they did not wanna give it to me even after several HUCAs, They kept saying its the same product.
Was this with you saying you would close the MC for the Visa?
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: zlt123 on September 23, 2014, 03:59:39 PM
after 3 HUCAs they said if you pay the MC bill & we close it than will see
Title: Re: Sapphire World MasterCard
Post by: Marco Polo on September 23, 2014, 04:01:46 PM
after 3 HUCAs they said if you pay the MC bill & we close it than will see
Can't hurt to try that.