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Title: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jack on November 29, 2009, 10:11:05 AM
Anyone have any tips on Arizona?  I think I want to stay in Tucson - anyone have any hotel recommendations?  Things to do?

Is there kosher food?

Any help would be great.
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: Dan on November 29, 2009, 10:41:57 AM
My grandparents live there in the winter.  It's pretty and surrounded by mountains, and IIRC there are some nice trails in the foothills.  It's hot during the day and surprisingly cold at night.

Never been to any restaurants there, so if there are any kosher ones I'm guessing they're nothing to write home about.  A quick search came up with 5th St. Deli, but I know nothing about their reliability or anything else about them.

I know SPG has a Westin resort in Tucson.

Anyway, why Tucson over Phoenix/Grand Canyon?
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: steve2 on November 29, 2009, 12:24:41 PM


Anyway, why Tucson over Phoenix/Grand Canyon?

 The GC this time of year can be Freezing and I woke up in Williams the next morn with snow drifts up to my you know what.

However theres no place like Sedona, its off the I-17 appx 40 mins south of Flagstaff, Red Rock Country and if a  person hasnt been there they are truly missing out on a great experience. sorry no SPG, there is a Hilton. even just for a day trip from PHX its worth it just leave early morn so you can get some day hikes in and do Pinks Jeep Tour to Broken Arrow. No place to eat so some nosh in the supermarket will have to do
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: me on November 29, 2009, 12:58:46 PM
I went last year for a few days to phoenix. As far as I know there nothing really in Tucson, but there are many kosher places in Phoenix and its closer to the general attractions. I went to Sedona and it was awesome
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: jack on November 29, 2009, 04:27:01 PM
you guys are great - thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: rm on November 29, 2009, 07:05:42 PM
I was in phoenix this past summer. In one day we drove up to Sedona and then to the Grand Canyon. And back. We did the Pink Jeeps too in Sedona. In phoenix, we ate a kosher fleishig place in Phoenix which also has a side kosher market. We actually picked up kosher food from just a regular supermarket.(Bread,cheese,franks ect.)
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: jack on November 30, 2009, 11:57:26 AM
Sedona in 50 degrees now. BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I think I am going to have to stay in phoenix.  Any advise what to do?
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: steve2 on November 30, 2009, 12:23:25 PM
Sedona in 50 degrees now. BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I think I am going to have to stay in phoenix.  Any advise what to do?

 1- its alot colder at the GC

2- for me thats perfect temps for doing the day hikes, its good even if all you do is drive around and take in the Red Rocks from inside your car but what a waste not climbing Cathedral Rock, and you dont want it to be too warm when you do it
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: me on November 30, 2009, 09:22:48 PM
Sedona in 50 degrees now. BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

When I went (last Feb.) it was snowing. But it was still beutiful!! (and worth the $150 jeep ride)
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: Eli on December 04, 2009, 10:05:56 AM
Dan, would you happen to have any inside info on the HP in Scottsdale? I heard you stayed there *a few* times. Is it a nice area? Tell us about it!

:)
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2009, 11:39:27 AM
Dan, would you happen to have any inside info on the HP in Scottsdale? I heard you stayed there *a few* times. Is it a nice area? Tell us about it!

:)
LOL-more than a few times!!!
Title: Arizona
Post by: mos on July 02, 2010, 01:22:24 PM
I'm planning a week trip to Arizona for the begining of August. I would like to spend time in the grand canyon as well as phoenix. Tickets to Grand canyon airport and Phoenix airport are in the $400 range. I was looking for suggestions as to area airports, and or airlines that might be cheaper. I would also like to know about car rentals, hotels, and attractions.
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: steve2 on July 02, 2010, 01:40:05 PM
 June/July/Aug I usually make it out West a good few times, this year forget about it as you have found out Fares are thru the roof and not worth going. Although I havea Vegas trip planned for Sun costme $153 after a cert was applied, will be there for all of 7 hrs but will earn 6100 EQMs :)  the purpose of the trip

 If U still go U should know PHX has the highest of all airports for Fees,Taxes and Surcharges on Rental cars where Im not surprised when those add up to be more then the cost of the car. Best thing is to find a local rental location and bus it to them or if not far cab it.

 if U do go make sure to spend some time in Sedona its off the I-17 which is the hway you will take to get to the GC, also if you have tons of time forget about the GC by Flagstaff and go up to the Northern Rim instead in Utah

 Nothing really close Airport wise Vegas is apx 6+ hrs away and ONT/PSP etc are not much better, unless you land and go straight to the GC but that still a very long schelp and alot of burning of gas
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2010, 02:17:07 PM
We made it from LAS to the Grand Canyon South Rim in 4.5 hours, definitely not a 6+ hour trip unless you're going far under the speed limit!
It's really not much further than PHX.
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: steve2 on July 02, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
We made it from LAS to the Grand Canyon South Rim in 4.5 hours, definitely not a 6+ hour trip unless you're going far under the speed limit!
It's really not much further than PHX.

 PHX to Willams 1 place to turn to get to the GC is a 2+ hr drive. Pushing it Ive meade it from LAS to Sedona in alittle over 4 add it all up and with a person who hasmt been that way and if traveling with kids = having to make stops = an easy 6+ hr drive LAS-PHX also thats from when they already have teh car, land and need to 1st get the car tack on some more time

 Now last time I was palying with heading to the LA/LAS area everything was north of $400 so no raeson to fly anywhere but PHX and save all that extra driving time and $$ for gas.

Or simply Id recommend driving down to Shenadaoh Park in Virigina great park a couple of nice waterfalls or up to Maine and Arcadia and leave the West Im sorry to say till airfares are more normal
Title: Re: Arizona
Post by: kivabb on July 03, 2010, 11:38:10 PM
Havasu Canyon is a must if you're a bit adventerous. Just type that into google and your mouth will drop when you see the images of the different waterfalls.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 15, 2011, 01:27:05 PM
Any decent places to spend Shabbos near PHX?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 19, 2011, 01:39:00 AM
FYI Hertz is renting cars for OW into Arizona for $5/day up to 14 days. Beginning Aug 18
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 19, 2011, 04:41:11 PM
Any decent places to spend Shabbos near PHX?

There's a Groupon - $299 for friday and motzei shabbos.

http://www.groupon.com/deals/ga-c-sedona-rouge?c=all&p=0
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jack on December 05, 2011, 12:49:14 AM
Looking for info on food in Scottsdale recommended restaurants?  Any attractions/activities for the ultra observant ;-)!  Also, hotels was going to do pheonician.
Many thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: farmerjoe on January 12, 2012, 10:42:10 PM
I'm thinking of going to the Grand Canyon soon, and was wondering how much there is to do there? how many days do i need to spend? any recommendations on what to do? TIA
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 12, 2012, 11:13:24 PM
Assuming you are a hiker, I would spend two days. First day walk around on the rim, visit the visitors center, see the iMax, etc. second day wake up early and do a long hike I think its called angels landing, I don't remember exactly
Title: TUCSON, AZ
Post by: Chez on January 22, 2012, 12:52:08 AM
We're going to Tucson this week (with our southwest miles)! Have you been there? Where should we go? Are there any kosher restaurants? Any attractions that should not be missed? Please help us out!

Thanks,

Chez and family
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 23, 2012, 02:23:25 PM
I'm headed out to PHX on Sunday. Here's some useful info I found that I thought I'd share with the olam:

http://www.ahavastorah.org/Ahavas_Torah/Visitors_Info.html
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Thingywingy on April 02, 2012, 06:34:57 PM
How does north rim GC compare to south rim?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Thingywingy on April 04, 2012, 11:40:53 AM
FYI Hertz is renting cars for OW into Arizona for $5/day up to 14 days. Beginning Aug 18
Is by any chance this deal still going on? Link?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mclovin on April 04, 2012, 09:48:06 PM
Is by any chance this deal still going on? Link?
it is
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15310.msg208899#msg208899 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15310.msg208899#msg208899) ;D
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SPGCont on April 11, 2012, 03:14:15 PM
Has anyone here been to Phoenix/Scottsdale area recently and can give some feedback on the stuff there?

Is the kosher pizza shop decent?

Do the kosher grocery stores there have a decent selection of stuff?

Can you get Shabbos food there?

Anything worth seeing in the immediate area (not Sedona, etc..) ?

Any other advice/tips would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 16, 2012, 12:51:57 PM
How does north rim GC compare to south rim?
north rim is quiter and more green. It is also higher up so in a way more dramatic. I cannot imagine not seeing both IMHO.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chez on April 18, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
Has anyone here been to Phoenix/Scottsdale area recently and can give some feedback on the stuff there?

Is the kosher pizza shop decent?

Do the kosher grocery stores there have a decent selection of stuff?

Can you get Shabbos food there?

Anything worth seeing in the immediate area (not Sedona, etc..) ?

Any other advice/tips would be greatly appreciated.

Kosher Pizza is excellent (it's actually owned by an Italian non-Jew. His pizza has a slightly more artisan taste to it (i.e. heavy on the olive oil).
From what we saw (and we did not spend shabbos there), there is enough kosher food to more than satisfy anyone's needs.
We also ate at the deli that's right next door to the pizza shop and the food was good, but not on NYC standards.

In terms of attractions, my wife loved the nordstrom there. Here's the deal...this is the nordstrom that gets all of the stuff that are deemed inappropriate for all of the other nordstrom and nordstrom racks (this one is called Last Chance). They have many amazing deals, but you have to find them. In fact, there are often fights and minor arguments that erupt over clothing. I witnessed one such imbroglio and it was quite entertaining ;-)
At the end of the day, my wife bought two pairs of tory birch flats that retail between $2-300 for $70 a piece! I bought a shirt that sells in nordstrom for $80 for $10! That's a cool place.
Additionally, Phoenix is only 2 hours from Tucson. It's a quick 2 hours because you're just driving straight desert cruising at the speed limit of 75 mph (so in reality traffic moves at about 85). In Tucson there is a gr8 desert museum which is also a zoo and botanical garden (for cactus). There are many national parks in Arizona and I am not aware of the specifics, but I believe that there are some nice local attractions as well near phoenix. Good luck! Enjoy!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SPGCont on April 18, 2012, 01:06:54 PM
Kosher Pizza is excellent (it's actually owned by an Italian non-Jew. His pizza has a slightly more artisan taste to it (i.e. heavy on the olive oil).
From what we saw (and we did not spend shabbos there), there is enough kosher food to more than satisfy anyone's needs.
We also ate at the deli that's right next door to the pizza shop and the food was good, but not on NYC standards.

In terms of attractions, my wife loved the nordstrom there. Here's the deal...this is the nordstrom that gets all of the stuff that are deemed inappropriate for all of the other nordstrom and nordstrom racks (this one is called Last Chance). They have many amazing deals, but you have to find them. In fact, there are often fights and minor arguments that erupt over clothing. I witnessed one such imbroglio and it was quite entertaining ;-)
At the end of the day, my wife bought two pairs of tory birch flats that retail between $2-300 for $70 a piece! I bought a shirt that sells in nordstrom for $80 for $10! That's a cool place.
Additionally, Phoenix is only 2 hours from Tucson. It's a quick 2 hours because you're just driving straight desert cruising at the speed limit of 75 mph (so in reality traffic moves at about 85). In Tucson there is a gr8 desert museum which is also a zoo and botanical garden (for cactus). There are many national parks in Arizona and I am not aware of the specifics, but I believe that there are some nice local attractions as well near phoenix. Good luck! Enjoy!

Thanks for the tips!

Do you remember if the pizza place you ate at was called "Manhattan Pizza" or "King Solomon's Pizza"?
Also, was it Cholov Yisroel?

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chez on April 27, 2012, 12:10:39 AM
http://kingsolomonspizza.com/?page_id=8

Here's the link to their website...It is cholov yisrael and the pizza is quite good!
Title: Anyone Traveled to the Grand Canyon? Ideas? Tips?
Post by: benchik on June 27, 2012, 10:14:24 AM
So we'll be travelling to the Grand Canyon this August.

We're a family of 8 with the youngest being 12. We'll be basing ourselves near the Chabad House in Flagstaff.

Any one has any experience regarding kosher food, great family-friendly attractions and ideas?

Also, any experience with any of the hotels there? None of the option look to be too good. At best a Cat 4 Hilton. I'd take a good vacation rental as well.

Thanks,
Ben
Title: Re: Anyone Traveled to the Grand Canyon? Ideas? Tips?
Post by: DrDanny on June 27, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
I wouldn't stay in Flagstaff if I had a choice, Just because Sedona is a half hour away (granted its a half hour away from The Grand Canyon and closer to Phoenix) and is so beautiful +nicer hotels although even Flagstaff is a hour and a half hour away just fyi
also near the grand canyon is lake (two and a half hours away) is lake Powell which is really beautiful also its near a Bryce Canyon IIRC which is also beautiful although I may be mixing up which state park is nearby




Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: cherylnlajolla on June 27, 2012, 11:57:46 PM
I also recommend staying in Sedona.  One of the most beautiful places I've been yet!  Can't wait to go back.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 28, 2012, 01:35:41 AM
Sedona is awesome but everything is an extra hour round trip from there as the grand canyon etc are all north. If you are already planning on Flagstaff you can always visit Sedona from there.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on June 28, 2012, 05:33:41 AM
Any minyan in Sedona?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: cherylnlajolla on June 28, 2012, 08:19:21 AM
no minyan in Sedona
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 03, 2012, 12:52:55 PM
Would staying in Sedona and driving in to Flagstaff for the tefillos work?

Flagstaff does seem to be a run-down place.

If you had nearly two weeks to spend with your flight arriving and leaving Phoenix, how would you plan it, keeping minyanim in mind?

Ben
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 03, 2012, 12:59:10 PM
2 weeks?
Grand canyon, Vegas, and LA.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 03, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
I really don't think any of these places are really doable with minyanim. To drive an hour plus (or closer to two) each way for a minyan will take your whole day. Stick to a city or a place near the summer program inthe Colorado rockies
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on July 03, 2012, 01:44:11 PM
Go to www.jewishvail.com and see the cool minyan maker, so you might find a minyan for your dates at the Rockies in Colorado.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 03, 2012, 01:53:47 PM
Go to www.jewishvail.com and see the cool minyan maker, so you might find a minyan for your dates at the Rockies in Colorado.
Chances of a minyan in the Rockies this summer are pretty solid.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on July 03, 2012, 02:05:19 PM
Why? This summer especially?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on July 03, 2012, 02:08:14 PM
I don't know if your willing to take the risk but I made minyanim just by bumping in to people all over AZ Last summer everywhere from the GC parking lot to Indian reservations to lake Powell/page to Sedona
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 03, 2012, 02:43:41 PM
Why? This summer especially?
I just know of a few people going and every summer it seems to get more popular.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on July 03, 2012, 03:31:42 PM
I'm one of those people, although I doubt that you know me...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 03, 2012, 03:43:48 PM
I'm one of those people, although I doubt that you know me...
I highly doubt it as well!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 03, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
Is it worth booking in Sedona on the hope of making a minyan there?

@Dan, how many days do you recommend for the Grand Canyon?

Where would I spend the bulk of my trip?

Also, did anyone spend time in Flagstaff?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 03, 2012, 04:38:25 PM
Is it worth booking in Sedona on the hope of making a minyan there?

@Dan, how many days do you recommend for the Grand Canyon?

Where would I spend the bulk of my trip?

Also, did anyone spend time in Flagstaff?
FWIU there is nothing to do in Flagstaff.
If minyanim are a deal breaker for you I think you should rethink this whole trip.
The grand canyon, assuming you do a reasonable hike but not an overnight one should be a day and a half. Arrive in the afternoon, do the rim walk, go see the imax, bbq. Next day wake up early and do a hike down into the canyon. If you want an overnight hike with camping it will obviously be longer. But again, I doubt you will find a Minyan, and travelling back and forth to Flagstaff is crazy-an hour and a half drive.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 03, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
Would I have what to do in the LA area for a week?

Ben
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 03, 2012, 04:53:59 PM
Would I have what to do in the LA area for a week?

Ben
Depends what you like to do. If you're like Dan and you travel for food than sure. Otherwise, I'm not sure. Disneyland is nearby, Knott's Berry farm, winery in Tierra Sur. THe grove, venice beach. Find a couple of hikes. Driving around Beverly Hills looking at houses. Probably better off in SD for a week though. They have minyanim, but a lot less kosher food.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on July 03, 2012, 05:02:52 PM
I've stayed in Flagstaff but would never stay there again being that it is in such close proximity to one of the most beautiful places I've every been, I think the drive to Flagstaff from Sedona took me  25 minutes 
They have great Jeep Tours but I rented ATV's that were really awesome and came with a helmet cam (thought they'd send me back a nice short clip of us but we ended up with a 5 hour long DVD)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 03, 2012, 05:12:09 PM
@Dr Danny,

Why wouldn't you stay there again?

(That being the case, is there any way to get out of paying the change fee with United? I'm already booked past 24 hours to and from PHX.)

Ben
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on July 03, 2012, 05:15:40 PM
Just because its a fairly drab city and Sedona is so beautiful
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E on July 03, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
for anyone heading to sedona I recently was there and rented a jeep from hertz PHX, there are tons of great off roading trails in and around sedona.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 03, 2012, 05:55:28 PM
Just because its a fairly drab city and Sedona is so beautiful

But even in Sedona its not worth being there more than a few days, I guess.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on July 03, 2012, 09:22:35 PM
If your looking to be going on trips every day and such you are right in 2 or 3 days you can do it all but you can just hang around there for probably about a week
 and the diablo something or other hotel already knows about Shabbos ;)
And this is Arizona were talking about not NYC or LA if you want something new to do every day your gonna have to move every couple of days (you can move at about 2 hours at a time though) to a new place you can do Sedona-Grand Canyon-Page/Lake Powell-Bryce Canyon-Canyon Lands -Moab
 well maybe that's a little to long to take a whole family but that's the idea or if your flying into PHX and have 2 Weeks you can go from the GC to Vegas to LA to San Diego back to Phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 03, 2012, 11:01:07 PM
One thing to keep in mind with all this talk of driving out west is that the roads out there are very scenic, and one lane per direction so it is more relaxing then what most of us are used to. That is unless passing trucks on the other side makes you stressed out. :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 12, 2012, 10:05:02 AM
Thanks for all the replies!

I think that upon arrival at phx we'll head out to San Diego as soon as we arrive, spend shabbos there. We'll move over to LA during the wee and spend the next shabbos there. Finally, after shabbos, we'll head out to the GC. From the GC its back to PHX.

Any good suggestions for SD, LA and the GC? Something with a large family in mind.

Does my routing above make sense? Or are there better ideas? (We're not doing LV for tznius issues.)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2012, 11:04:08 AM
Does my routing above make sense? Or are there better ideas? (We're not doing LV for tznius issues.)
The same tznius issues you have in LV (billboards I'm assuming?) you'll have everywhere in California.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 12, 2012, 11:11:29 AM
Nah, not really billboards. Its more because of a reputation LV has. I'm not backing out of California by now. :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
Nah, not really billboards. Its more because of a reputation LV has. I'm not backing out of California by now. :)
Meh.  Lots of fun free stuff to do in Vegas for kids without seeing anything worse than LA/SD and tons of great hiking as well.
Title: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 12, 2012, 11:16:09 AM
Meh.  Lots of fun free stuff to do in Vegas for kids without seeing anything worse than LA/SD and tons of great hiking as well.
Never been but had a friend who went and said that it's a lot worse. It is a city based on tumah
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: benchik on July 12, 2012, 11:20:55 AM
Meh.  Lots of fun free stuff to do in Vegas for kids without seeing anything worse than LA/SD and tons of great hiking as well.

Maybe if I stay far from the strip it could work.

Any examples of great things to do around there? (I need to convince some people.)

It also helps break up the length of the trip.

Ben

btw, Mazel Tov on Rafi's birthday. May he go me'chayal le'chayal.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 12, 2012, 01:15:42 PM
I once heard it's better to drive from North to South?

Anyway, the rental price might be very dif for pickup in in AZ & drop off in CA or vice versa, so look into that.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on July 30, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
thinking about going to pheonix, looking for input & suggestions.

flying in thursday staying in pheonix for shabbos, leave motzei shabbos/early sunday to grand canyon..... I would like to do GC, lake powell, bryce canyon & maybe zion national park. I would have to get back to pheonix by thurs. morn-early afternoon for flight back.
is motzei shabbos till thursday morning enought time to get this in??

Ps. its a few bachurim so we can drive through wed night back to phx if needed. or does it make sense to drive up to BC on motzei shabbos & work our way down?
Title: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: creditor on July 30, 2012, 01:31:52 PM
thinking about going to pheonix, looking for input & suggestions.

flying in thursday staying in pheonix for shabbos, leave motzei shabbos/early sunday to grand canyon..... I would like to do GC, lake powell, bryce canyon & maybe zion national park. I would have to get back to pheonix by thurs. morn-early afternoon for flight back.
is motzei shabbos till thursday morning enought time to get this in??

Ps. its a few bachurim so we can drive through wed night if needed
oh, pheonix, I hate this place.
both Chase AA and AMEX F/R departments are based there.
make sure to stop by and tell them to stop the rage >:(
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: duvid crockett on August 10, 2012, 09:04:07 PM
im on a vacation now in scottsdale/phoenix and i just wanted to let everyone know that Segal's restaurant in phoenix is phenomenal! we've eaten there every day. their chinese menu is top notch and of the best in the country but most importantly their ribs and burgers are superb!! they have marinated flanken ribs and lots of great burgers. its a must visit if you're in the area!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 12, 2012, 04:15:54 AM
im on a vacation now in scottsdale/phoenix and i just wanted to let everyone know that Segal's restaurant in phoenix is phenomenal! we've eaten there every day. their chinese menu is top notch and of the best in the country but most importantly their ribs and burgers are superb!! they have marinated flanken ribs and lots of great burgers. its a must visit if you're in the area!

+1,000

I really shoulda gotten around to posting a TR... :(
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 13, 2012, 04:35:35 AM
im on a vacation now in scottsdale/phoenix and i just wanted to let everyone know that Segal's restaurant in phoenix is phenomenal! we've eaten there every day. their chinese menu is top notch and of the best in the country but most importantly their ribs and burgers are superb!! they have marinated flanken ribs and lots of great burgers. its a must visit if you're in the area!
??? Judging from your review, one could think that you have a whole variety of Kosher restaurants to eat over there..

Not like you have much else.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: duvid crockett on August 13, 2012, 06:57:28 AM
??? Judging from your review, one could think that you have a whole variety of Kosher restaurants to eat over there..

Not like you have much else.
Although thats true that there's not much else its still a great restaurant and would be even if it was located in ny
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on November 20, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
Any hotel suggestions for Sedona, AZ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on November 21, 2012, 03:00:49 AM
IIRC there is a Hyatt - it might be a Hilton now there
Also  2 nice ones are Diablo  or something like that (which btw is also timeshare so check vrbo/home away) and Amara spawhere I stayed which was beautiful but not 4 stars IMHO amara is more in town and Diablo is down the road Diablo knows about Shabbos and us more resorty (they have tennis courts IIRC) Sedona rouge looks nice in pictures but I've never been
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on November 26, 2012, 01:39:59 PM
I know of 2 families that might be going to the Phoenician in Scottsdale, Arizona for the Shabbos Chanukah Weekend. They have 6 men and can bring a sefer torah. They need 4 more for a minyan. With the current 50% SPG resort promotion you can get the nicest Starwood property in the US for 32K points for 5 nights and possibly have a minyan on shabbos.

https://www.spgpromos.com/betterbythenight/?language=en_us&IM=Q4BBTN12_Eng_SPGcom_Text

Please let me know if you are going so I know if my friend will have a minyan.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 26, 2012, 01:54:04 PM
I know of 2 families that might be going to the Phoenician in Scottsdale, Arizona for the Shabbos Chanukah Weekend. They have 6 men and can bring a sefer torah. They need 4 more for a minyan. With the current 50% SPG resort promotion you can get the nicest Starwood property in the US for 32K points for 5 nights and possibly have a minyan on shabbos.

https://www.spgpromos.com/betterbythenight/?language=en_us&IM=Q4BBTN12_Eng_SPGcom_Text

Please let me know if you are going so I know if my friend will have a minyan.

there are plenty of jerws that live near there. i did seed there in phoenix but stayed in scottsdale for 3 yrs. contact r' jordan he can def help u getting a minyan
Title: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on November 26, 2012, 07:42:30 PM
there are plenty of jerws that live near there. i did seed there in phoenix but stayed in scottsdale for 3 yrs. contact r' jordan he can def help u getting a minyan

According to google maps it is a 2 hour walk to the frum community. Are you sure there are frum people who live within walking distance to the Phoenician?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 26, 2012, 11:03:53 PM
According to google maps it is a 2 hour walk to the frum community. Are you sure there are frum people who live within walking distance to the Phoenician?
There are a few shuls in Scottsdale (and multple Chabad Houses all over Phoenix/Scottsdale area), so may be useful to PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 27, 2012, 07:15:01 AM
There are a few shuls in Scottsdale (and multple Chabad Houses all over Phoenix/Scottsdale area), so may be useful to PUTPAC.

2 miles is actually normal to walk to shul. In Phoenix from r Hollands house to shul was a bit over a mile.   So yes there are tooonnnnsss if jews :-)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on November 27, 2012, 09:52:16 AM
There are a few shuls in Scottsdale (and multple Chabad Houses all over Phoenix/Scottsdale area), so may be useful to PUTPAC.

What do you mean by "PUTPAC"? Can someone tell me is there is a chabad away from the main jewish community and near the Phoenician?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 27, 2012, 11:08:20 AM
What do you mean by "PUTPAC"? Can someone tell me is there is a chabad away from the main jewish community and near the Phoenician?

check it here (http://wiki.dansdeals.com/Acronyms)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on November 27, 2012, 11:39:06 AM
Oh, I feel old fashioned! :)

My friend actually did call the Chabbad and they did not know of anything that is less than a 2 hour walk.

This can be a great opportunity for someone who wants a great deal at a great hotel and have a minyan with a sefer torah on Shabbos!!
Title: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 27, 2012, 11:41:41 AM
Oh, I feel old fashioned! :)

My friend actually did call the Chabbad and they did not know of anything that is less than a 2 hour walk.

This can be a great opportunity for someone who wants a great deal at a great hotel and have a minyan with a sefer torah on Shabbos!!
Try posting on go daven
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 27, 2012, 11:52:17 AM
Oh, I feel old fashioned! :)

My friend actually did call the Chabbad and they did not know of anything that is less than a 2 hour walk.

This can be a great opportunity for someone who wants a great deal at a great hotel and have a minyan with a sefer torah on Shabbos!!

try calling a rabbi non chabad
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 27, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
What do you mean by "PUTPAC"? Can someone tell me is there is a chabad away from the main jewish community and near the Phoenician?
http://beta.chabad.org/centers/default.asp?qry=85251
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Name Changed on December 24, 2012, 05:44:27 PM
Any recommendations of a nice Resort in the Phoenix (Scottsdale)  area?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on December 24, 2012, 05:56:57 PM
Any recommendations of a nice Resort in the Phoenix (Scottsdale)  area?
Never been, but they say Hyatt Scottsdale is nice.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on December 24, 2012, 06:00:31 PM
Never been, but they say Hyatt Scottsdale is nice.
they also say the Phoenician and the Westin Kierland and The Biltmore are nice
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 07:54:16 AM
Hyatt Regency Scottsdale was amazing. Kierland Westin... not as much.

#my2cents
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 10, 2013, 09:16:17 PM
Lots of fun free stuff to do in Vegas for kids
Any examples?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 16, 2013, 11:20:24 PM
Has anyone been to the Grand Canyon with kids?
Would it make sense to arrive at the south rim at about 1pm and spend the rest of the day there or is that too little time and one should be there earlier in order not to miss stuff?
Again, this is with kids (ages 2 and 4)

Appreciate whoever can help.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 12:00:15 AM
Has anyone been to the Grand Canyon with kids?
Would it make sense to arrive at the south rim at about 1pm and spend the rest of the day there or is that too little time and one should be there earlier in order not to miss stuff?
Again, this is with kids (ages 2 and 4)

Appreciate whoever can help.
I would try to get there earlier. I am assuming you won't be doing any hiking but all the same there are many view points which take time. What time of year are you going?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 12:46:13 AM
I would try to get there earlier. I am assuming you won't be doing any hiking but all the same there are many view points which take time. What time of year are you going?
This is for mid February. What would a day there look like with kids? Anything other than viewpoints.
I've been there myself a couple of times but way too long ago to remember details...
Thanks for advising.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 01:51:50 AM
This is for mid February. What would a day there look like with kids? Anything other than viewpoints.
I've been there myself a couple of times but way too long ago to remember details...
Thanks for advising.
The Grand Canyon village is a nice area. Lots of shops and just a fun place to visit. You can walk the rim trail which I think is stroller accessible.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 01:53:37 AM
The Grand Canyon village is a nice area. Lots of shops and just a fun place to visit. You can walk the rim trail which I think is stroller accessible.
Anything else? I saw there's a train and some kind of museum, worth the time?
Any idea how long the rim trail takes?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 01:56:40 AM
Anything else? I saw there's a train and some kind of museum, worth the time?
Any idea how long the rim trail takes?
I didn't do the train as I went hiking but it seems like a good idea. Don't recall how long rim trail took me, it must have been approx an hour or so.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 02:12:00 AM
I didn't do the train as I went hiking but it seems like a good idea. Don't recall how long rim trail took me, it must have been approx an hour or so.
So my question again: Arriving at about 1pm should be enough to walk the whole rim trail, maybe drive some more in case some views are missed from the trail, and watch the sunset which on mid-February should be past 6pm, leaving time for at least one more activity such as the train or something else.
You're saying it doesn't make sense and arrival there should be in the morning? More time is needed for other activities? If yes, which?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 09:16:10 AM
So my question again: Arriving at about 1pm should be enough to walk the whole rim trail, maybe drive some more in case some views are missed from the trail, and watch the sunset which on mid-February should be past 6pm, leaving time for at least one more activity such as the train or something else.
You're saying it doesn't make sense and arrival there should be in the morning? More time is needed for other activities? If yes, which?
you will miss some views from the trail no question about that, as the views are very different from the various view points. It is for sure doing some of them if not all.

I did not realize sunset is so late I had thought it would be around 430, but if Sunset is at 6 then 5 hours there should cut it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 11:44:34 AM
you will miss some views from the trail no question about that, as the views are very different from the various view points. It is for sure doing some of them if not all.

I did not realize sunset is so late I had thought it would be around 430, but if Sunset is at 6 then 5 hours there should cut it.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 17, 2013, 12:36:56 PM
So my question again: Arriving at about 1pm should be enough to walk the whole rim trail, maybe drive some more in case some views are missed from the trail, and watch the sunset which on mid-February should be past 6pm, leaving time for at least one more activity such as the train or something else.
You're saying it doesn't make sense and arrival there should be in the morning? More time is needed for other activities? If yes, which?

Personally, my wife and I did a 60 minute helicopter tour. Not much else like it. ;)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Name Changed on January 17, 2013, 12:40:42 PM
Any nice recommended hotels in the Sedona Area, and are there any must go to places in Sedona?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 01:07:31 PM
Any nice recommended hotels in the Sedona Area, and are there any must go to places in Sedona?
Pink Jeep tours on the red rocks. Worth every penny! Also there are  many nice hikes around the area, which take in the rocks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 01:10:46 PM
Pink Jeep tours on the red rocks. Worth every penny!
Kids 2 & 4?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 01:19:15 PM
Kids 2 & 4?
Was giving that idea to Name Changed. Name Changed did not mention that they are with young kids
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on January 17, 2013, 04:53:36 PM
Pink Jeep tours on the red rocks. Worth every penny! Also there are  many nice hikes around the area, which take in the rocks.
If you don't have any kids and are adventures I would recommend renting ATV's as opposed to taking the Jeep tour
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 05:04:48 PM
I have some online maps I saved with me from my trip to Phoenix last spring.

Activities, Restaurants, Shuls, and some other stuff in Phoenix
http://goo.gl/maps/OFL8z

My trip from Phoenix to Grand Canyon with a stop off at Sedona, done all in one day!  ;D
http://goo.gl/maps/qy0hy

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 17, 2013, 05:14:10 PM
I have some online maps I saved with me from my trip to Phoenix last spring.

Activities, Restaurants, Shuls, and some other stuff in Phoenix
http://goo.gl/maps/OFL8z

My trip from Phoenix to Grand Canyon with a stop off at Sedona, done all in one day!  ;D
http://goo.gl/maps/qy0hy

Enjoy!
You did the whole drive round trip and a hike? How far did you go on the hike (how many miles)?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
You did the whole drive round trip and a hike? How far did you go on the hike (how many miles)?
It was 7.5 hours driving. We stopped at Sedona for about an hour. Did a hike for an hour total. Headed up to GC, got there late, around 2 IIRC, we managed to get to Cedar Ridge on the South Kaibab trail which according to Wikipedia is 1.5 miles away. Took us about 2 hours or more. We got out right before dusk which I think was at 5.

We got to see OOOOH AAHHHHHH Point on the way ;D :D :P
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 17, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
It was 7.5 hours driving. We stopped at Sedona for about an hour. Did a hike for an hour total. Headed up to GC, got there late, around 2 IIRC, we managed to get to Cedar Ridge on the South Kaibab trail which according to Wikipedia is 1.5 miles away. Took us about 2 hours or more. We got out right before dusk which I think was at 5.

We got to see OOOOH AAHHHHHH Point on the way ;D :D :P
Nice.  U were in Phoenix.  Rabbi holland. He's the best. Was he there when u went?
Title: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 05:29:02 PM
Nice.  U were in Phoenix.  Rabbi holland. He's the best. Was he there when u went?
Didn't meet any rabbis. There was no minyan in the yeshiva because it was bein hazmanim. I am assuming that there's only one yeshiva.
Title: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 17, 2013, 05:31:28 PM
Didn't meet any rabbis. There was no minyan in the yeshiva because it was bein hazmanim. I am assuming that there's only one yeshiva.
three shuls though.  Did u go to last chance?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 05:36:18 PM
three shuls though.  Did u go to last chance?
Never heard of last chance. IIRC I was at a yellow building on 7th I think with a shul on the second floor I think. Next door to a grocery store or gas station or both. Make sense?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Name Changed on January 17, 2013, 05:39:10 PM
Thanx for sharing!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 17, 2013, 05:43:53 PM
Never heard of last chance. IIRC I was at a yellow building on 7th I think with a shul on the second floor I think. Next door to a grocery store or gas station or both. Make sense?
yups. That's the shul! Exactly bright next to a shell   
Title: Re: Re: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 06:27:43 PM
yups. That's the shul! Exactly bright next to a shell
Oh cool. I never figured that I would remember it correctly almost a year later. I was there for like 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 08:06:17 PM
If you don't have any kids and are adventures I would recommend renting ATV's as opposed to taking the Jeep tour
-1 You can ATV anywhere but Sedona is Pink Jeep tour, just as Colorado is skiing.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
-1 You can ATV anywhere but Sedona is Pink Jeep tour, just as Colorado is skiing.
I did Sedona without a jeep tour, what did I miss out on?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 08:28:42 PM
I did Sedona without a jeep tour, what did I miss out on?
A jeep tour! It is just really cool how they go out onto the rocks. Best jeeping I ever did. We stayed in Sedona for a week and that was our favorite activity that we did there.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 08:30:22 PM
We stayed in Sedona for a week
If so, please can you post the best activities for 1 day there with a 2 and 4 year old?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 08:34:53 PM
If so, please can you post the best activities for 1 day there with a 2 and 4 year old?
There is a water park in a natural setting I think it's called slide rock. I did not go but IIRC someone who was with us took her little kids there and was raving about it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 09:04:06 PM
There is a water park in a natural setting I think it's called slide rock. I did not go but IIRC someone who was with us took her little kids there and was raving about it.
Looks quite cool, the only question is if it won't be too cold out for them. Right now it's 42į there.
So that's one activity, what else?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 09:43:42 PM
Looks quite cool, the only question is if it won't be too cold out for them. Right now it's 42į there.
So that's one activity, what else?
Not sure what else would work there. I did a lot of hiking and those kind of things, so don't really know what else is good for little kids. How long are you there for?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 09:58:00 PM
Not sure what else would work there. I did a lot of hiking and those kind of things, so don't really know what else is good for little kids. How long are you there for?
Doing a Vegas-AZ trip starting Sunday. Plan on driving Wed from LAS to GC, sleep Wed. night in either Flagstaff of Sedona and do something good Thurs. before I get to PHX at night.
Not sure what I'm doing Fri but it's gotta be in the PHX area.
Flying out Sun. in the AM.

So I guess Thursday and Friday are the days I still need to plan out in AZ, Thurs. starting out in Sedona.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
Doing a Vegas-AZ trip starting Sunday. Plan on driving Wed from LAS to GC, sleep Wed. night in either Flagstaff of Sedona and do something good Thurs. before I get to PHX at night.
Not sure what I'm doing Fri but it's gotta be in the PHX area.
Flying out Sun. in the AM.
If you are driving from LAS all the way to the GC on Wednesday I would not stay over in Sedona that same night. It is an extra 40 minutes down this huge mountain, not a good idea as you will be really tired.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 10:10:40 PM
Also are you thinking of Lake Powell at all?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 10:11:20 PM
If you are driving from LAS all the way to the GC on Wednesday I would not stay over in Sedona that same night. It is an extra 40 minutes down this huge mountain, not a good idea as you will be really tired.
You mean you wouldn't stay in Sedona over Flagstaff or you wouldn't leave the GC area altogether and stay the night in GC?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 10:16:30 PM
Also are you thinking of Lake Powell at all?
Looking at the map I doubt I'll have enough time to make it there.
Especially considering that the GC north rim is closed during this time of the year...
The only way it would make sense CMIIW would be to drive straight there from LAS, next stop being Sedona, and drive to GC on Thurs and schlep to PHX on Thurs from GC....
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 10:34:10 PM
You mean you wouldn't stay in Sedona over Flagstaff or you wouldn't leave the GC area altogether and stay the night in GC?
I for sure would not stay in Sedona over Flagstaff as at that hour the extra driving will not be worth it, considering that you will have already done a lot of driving.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 10:34:46 PM
Looking at the map I doubt I'll have enough time to make it there.
Especially considering that the GC north rim is closed during this time of the year...
The only way it would make sense CMIIW would be to drive straight there from LAS, next stop being Sedona, and drive to GC on Thurs and schlep to PHX on Thurs from GC....
Maskim it's not worth it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 10:45:11 PM
I for sure would not stay in Sedona over Flagstaff as at that hour the extra driving will not be worth it, considering that you will have already done a lot of driving.
So Flagstaff it is. The drive is 1.5 hours, shouldn't be that bad, I'll take it slow and easy.
Maskim it's not worth it.
:(
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on January 17, 2013, 10:52:28 PM
I for sure would not stay in Sedona over Flagstaff as at that hour the extra driving will not be worth it, considering that you will have already done a lot of driving.
I disagree.

First of all, I assume we're talking about whether he should stay in Flagstaff or Sedona, I'm assuming it's a given he's going to Sedona.




IMO it makes sense to stay in Sedona, getting the driving out of the way wed. night, rather than (wasting prime daytime hours) driving to Sedona in the morning then back toward the GC. (But I guess that's a matter of personal preference.)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 10:58:25 PM
I disagree.

First of all, I assume we're talking about whether he should stay in Flagstaff or Sedona, I'm assuming it's a given he's going to Sedona.




IMO it makes sense to stay in Sedona, getting the driving out of the way wed. night, rather than (wasting prime daytime hours) driving to Sedona in the morning then back toward the GC. (But I guess that's a matter of personal preference.)
If I stay in FT the night, I only got a 45 minute drive in the morning until I get to Sedona.
Advantages:
1) Shorter drive Wed. night (don't forget I'm doing the big LAS-GC drive on Wed morning).
2) Better hotel selection.
From there I'm only heading south to be in PHX that night (staying at family that night as well as over Shabbos).
So I don't understand this sentence:
then back toward the GC.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on January 17, 2013, 11:05:23 PM
From there I'm only heading south to be in PHX that night (staying at family that night as well as over Shabbos).
So I don't understand this sentence:
Oops, my bad.
I misunderstood. I guess I wasn't paying much attention, for some reason I thought you were leaving Vegas Wed. afternoon and doing the GC Thurs.


You're right. Stay in flagstaff.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 17, 2013, 11:27:20 PM
What part of the drive is this?
40 minutes down this huge mountain
Right off GC or between Flagstaff and Sedona?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 17, 2013, 11:57:51 PM
What part of the drive is this?Right off GC or between Flagstaff and Sedona?
between flagstaff and sedona, hence the reason for flagstaff. Also the hotel selection as you mention is another good reason.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 18, 2013, 12:17:53 AM
between flagstaff and sedona, hence the reason for flagstaff. Also the hotel selection as you mention is another good reason.
Sold! :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 18, 2013, 12:19:59 AM
Sold! :)
I love that feeling when I am debating between 2 places and come up with a good decision on one of them!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 18, 2013, 12:24:33 AM
I love that feeling when I am debating between 2 places and come up with a good decision on one of them!
Works out from all aspects!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Name Changed on January 18, 2013, 12:38:51 AM
Well... I was thinking of staying in Sedona, for the reason to get the drive out of the way in the evening, as for me Sunday, I will be by the GC, and Monday late afternoon I want to be in Phoenix, Mon Morning I would spend a little time in Sedona ect...

So I guess staying in Sedona makes sense even though there isnt as good as a hotel selection
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 18, 2013, 12:54:58 AM
Well... I was thinking of staying in Sedona, for the reason to get the drive out of the way in the evening, as for me Sunday, I will be by the GC, and Monday late afternoon I want to be in Phoenix, Mon Morning I would spend a little time in Sedona ect...

So I guess staying in Sedona makes sense even though there isnt as good as a hotel selection
Drive from GC to Flagstaff and enjoy going to sleep 45 minutes earlier than you would if you would drive so Sedona. Wake up and spend those 45 minutes driving to Sedona :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on January 18, 2013, 01:01:47 AM
Drive from GC to Flagstaff and enjoy going to sleep 45 minutes earlier than you would if you would drive so Sedona. Wake up and spend those 45 minutes driving to Sedona :)
Normally I'm a big fan of driving at night. But in this case, IIRC, it's a really nice drive from Flagstaff to Sedona. It might be worth doing it in the morning when you can appreciate it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 18, 2013, 01:09:00 AM
Normally I'm a big fan of driving at night. But in this case, IIRC, it's a really nice drive from Flagstaff to Sedona. It might be worth doing it in the morning when you can appreciate it.
For the record, we are on the same page on this one :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 18, 2013, 04:08:51 AM
Any ideas for my next vacation? I absolutely loved Arizona, and I'm looking for a place that is similar to Arizona for right before Pesach time.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 18, 2013, 07:30:37 AM
I love that feeling when I am debating between 2 places and come up with a good decision on one of them!

אין שמחה כהתרת הספיקות. :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 19, 2013, 07:45:15 PM
Sold! :)
MEH, between Flagstaff and Sedona there is no major hotel difference...
Thinking of booking the Hilton Garden Inn in Flagstaff, nothing fancy..
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on January 19, 2013, 09:03:43 PM
MEH, between Flagstaff and Sedona there is no major hotel difference...
Thinking of booking the Hilton Garden Inn in Flagstaff, nothing fancy..
Flagstaff Looks like it could be in Upstate NY, Sedona is one of the most beautiful places I have ever been The Hilton Garden Inn in Flagstaff is pretty much a airport hotel but in Sedona most places will be more Resort style  (although I think on Groupon Getaways they have something now)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 20, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
Flagstaff Looks like it could be in Upstate NY, Sedona is one of the most beautiful places I have ever been The Hilton Garden Inn in Flagstaff is pretty much a airport hotel but in Sedona most places will be more Resort style  (although I think on Groupon Getaways they have something now)
If I stay in FT the night, I only got a 45 minute drive in the morning until I get to Sedona.
Advantages:
1) Shorter drive Wed. night (don't forget I'm doing the big LAS-GC drive on Wed morning).
Besides, I'm really not delving into the hotel for this night because all we want is to get some rest and we'll be checking out in the morning.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 29, 2013, 12:59:11 PM
Started the wiki  ;)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 29, 2013, 02:13:10 PM
Started the wiki  ;)
Great!
Would you be interested in doing a wiki on the Las Vegas thread? ;D
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 29, 2013, 02:16:46 PM
added to the wiki
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 29, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
Surprised that Sedona isn't mentioned there. Maybe because, although people say it's a beautiful place, nobody has a clue what can be done/seen there?
I officially have a day set for Sedona, but I'm starting to think that I will need to make other plans as I have yet to find a reason to visit there..
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 29, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Surprised that Sedona isn't mentioned there. Maybe because, although people say it's a beautiful place, nobody has a clue what can be done/seen there?
I officially have a day set for Sedona, but I'm starting to think that I will need to make other plans as I have yet to find a reason to visit there..
It is a beautifull and pleasant city. The red rocks are really cool and you can do jeeping with little kids, just pick a company that is not to extreme. For sure you can spend half a day without even trying. There are also some really nice nature walks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 29, 2013, 10:09:53 PM
It is a beautifull and pleasant city. The red rocks are really cool and you can do jeeping with little kids, just pick a company that is not to extreme. For sure you can spend half a day without even trying. There are also some really nice nature walks.
Thanks, finally a first! :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on January 29, 2013, 10:22:23 PM
It is a beautifull and pleasant city. The red rocks are really cool and you can do jeeping with little kids, just pick a company that is not to extreme. For sure you can spend half a day without even trying. There are also some really nice nature walks.
Thanks, finally a first! :)

Though on Jan 17-

Pink Jeep tours on the red rocks. Worth every penny! Also there are  many nice hikes around the area, which take in the rocks.

Surely not a first, and you even responded to it  ???

About the wiki, it needs some work. Will update when I get the chance.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 29, 2013, 10:30:30 PM
Right, pink jeeps not good for kids.
Nice hikes you have worldwide, too blanket-statementy...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mringelheim on April 07, 2013, 12:37:11 PM
Going to sedona July 4 weekend any idea for when hotels go downin price and reccomendations
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Name Changed on April 07, 2013, 12:42:15 PM
How many days?

I was in the Marriott in Flagstaff for 1 night, it was cheap ($60ish) and was very nice. Had a nice view...

I wouldn't recommend if you are looking to stay for a few days, I was just passing thru. I went to the Grand Canyon the following morning.

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on April 08, 2013, 12:25:49 PM
It is a beautifull and pleasant city. The red rocks are really cool and you can do jeeping with little kids, just pick a company that is not to extreme. For sure you can spend half a day without even trying. There are also some really nice nature walks.
Sedona is a real nice place if you come there straight from the city, but if you drive through Utah to get there you'l have a hard time figuring out what's so special about SEDONA's red rocks...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: chaya123 on April 22, 2013, 08:34:19 PM
Right, pink jeeps not good for kids.
Nice hikes you have worldwide, too blanket-statementy...

I would disagree depending on the age and personality of the children. Some trails are more "extreme" than others and if you ask the company they can recommend a trail for you based on this. Children regularly go on jeep tours. It is safe to say as a Sedona native I went on quite a few.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on April 22, 2013, 11:22:27 PM
I would disagree depending on the age and personality of the children. Some trails are more "extreme" than others and if you ask the company they can recommend a trail for you based on this. Children regularly go on jeep tours. It is safe to say as a Sedona native I went on quite a few.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: chaya123 on April 23, 2013, 12:49:04 AM
Point of interest-
It might be a bit of a shlep but one of the best creeks to go is pretty out there(its in the middle of nowhere forests) near Strawberry, Arizona, known as Fossil Creek. That drive is probably itself an adventure and the entire reserve is gorgeous. However I could never go there without hiking the mile or so to the natural hot springs. Best part of the creek! Google for pictures...

See http://www.fossilcreekaz.com/pages/verde.html for info.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on May 07, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
Segal's vs. Imperial for Shabbos take out?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on June 13, 2013, 01:00:42 PM
I would disagree depending on the age and personality of the children. Some trails are more "extreme" than others and if you ask the company they can recommend a trail for you based on this. Children regularly go on jeep tours. It is safe to say as a Sedona native I went on quite a few.
How about going with a 3 year old and 15 month old?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on June 28, 2013, 03:23:25 AM
im traveling from phoinex to grand canyon spending day in sedona. want to do jeeping, anything else?
any suggestions on hotel for the night?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 28, 2013, 05:03:42 AM
Anyone here been to The Wave? As awesome as it looks in pictures?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on July 28, 2013, 04:56:56 PM
Heading now to zion national park what's not to miss?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on July 28, 2013, 09:22:45 PM
Heading now to zion national park what's not to miss?
If you're a real hiker try Angel's Landing. AMAZING views but very strenuous. OTW up you're almost mountain climbing on cliffs holding on w/ chains & stuff...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on July 29, 2013, 10:11:24 AM
If you're a real hiker try Angel's Landing. AMAZING views but very strenuous. OTW up you're almost mountain climbing on cliffs holding on w/ chains & stuff...
it was to hard we didn't do it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on July 29, 2013, 10:11:58 AM
In lake Powell today any suggestions which place to rent boat from etc...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on July 29, 2013, 01:07:53 PM
Carl's in Page has very cheap rates. IIRC last time I was there we rented jet-skis from him for $200+ for the DAY. As opposed to other places where it's $100+ per hour.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on July 29, 2013, 01:08:27 PM
it was to hard we didn't do it.
So what did you do there?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: fradl on November 16, 2013, 11:24:28 PM
Dan, this is a Hakoras HaTov shoutout. Last December, I booked a one-way on American/Elal from Tel Aviv to Phoenix, with an 11 month stopover in New York, where I live.  My husband and I just returned from a beautiful week in Scottsdale. It was all free and it was beautiful. We stayed at the Westin Kierland(SPG points), which was beautiful!!! It is a one mile walk to Ahavas Torah Shul. The community there was very welcoming.  We went to Sedona, GC, Frank Lloyd Wright's home, had a massage at the hotel spa, Last Chance and to Chabad and the many delicious kosher eateries. Scottsdale is really beautiful. The way back was free between the money spent on my American credit card and the 10% rebate.  Thank you Dan for all that I have learned from your site!!!!!!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 17, 2013, 09:23:21 PM
Dan, this is a Hakoras HaTov shoutout. Last December, I booked a one-way on American/Elal from Tel Aviv to Phoenix, with an 11 month stopover in New York, where I live.  My husband and I just returned from a beautiful week in Scottsdale. It was all free and it was beautiful. We stayed at the Westin Kierland(SPG points), which was beautiful!!! It is a one mile walk to Ahavas Torah Shul. The community there was very welcoming.  We went to Sedona, GC, Frank Lloyd Wright's home, had a massage at the hotel spa, Last Chance and to Chabad and the many delicious kosher eateries. Scottsdale is really beautiful. The way back was free between the money spent on my American credit card and the 10% rebate.  Thank you Dan for all that I have learned from your site!!!!!!
Very nice!

I definitely concur, Scottsdale is indeed a gorgeous city!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dreaming on December 15, 2013, 01:14:22 AM
What is interesting to do in Phoenix/Sedona area? I am going with a three month old baby.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on December 17, 2013, 03:52:11 PM
What is interesting to do in Phoenix/Sedona area? I am going with a three month old baby.

I'm not quite familiar with Phoenix, although I've visited multiple times because I have family there in Cave Creek 30 minutes north west of PHX.  Sedona is just amazing though.  The views are just majestic.  Though it may be snowing or at the least cold as heck over there.  Hiking trails are legit, but with a three month old baby, I would just check out the views and eat the good food there.  The architecture is amazing and so is the history.  People are just so welcoming.  We will actually be in AZ in mid-Jan to visit family.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on December 17, 2013, 04:04:16 PM
I'm planning a trip with my wife to AZ to visit family close to Phoenix in mid-Jan.  We are coming from either Long Beach Airport in Long Beach, CA, LAX, or John Wayne Airport in Orange County.  I have Jetblue points for 2 one-ways, Citi AA 33k points, Chase Bold 58k points, Freedom 17k, and Sapphire 48k.  What can I do to maximize my points and get free flights?  I don't have to worry about accommodations, just flights and maybe a car rental for Sedona.  What airlines should I use? Are there any promos (there's got to be alot of holiday sales) that I could take advantage of?  Any advice?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on December 24, 2013, 04:52:35 AM
there is a chabad in flagstaff and its really close to the grand canyon so its convenient if you want to make sunrise at the gc
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jack12 on December 25, 2013, 08:57:10 AM
there is a chabad in flagstaff and its really close to the grand canyon so its convenient if you want to make sunrise at the gc
I was there in the summer and they didn't have a minyan during the week. Call/email the rabbi to find out if there will be a minyan
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 26, 2013, 04:42:10 PM
booked a 4 day trip business class for $78.18 for me and my wife combined
now time to plan what were gonna do
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on December 26, 2013, 04:43:56 PM
booked a 4 day trip business class for $78.18 for me and my wife combined
now time to plan what were gonna do

Same here. Booked 4 days in May. When are you going?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 26, 2013, 06:59:24 PM
great place phoenix.

spent a lot of time there in the past. pm me if u need help with itin
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on December 26, 2013, 07:16:28 PM

great place phoenix.

spent a lot of time there in the past. pm me if u need help with itin

Do you have an itin you can post? I am sure there are going to be a number of requests.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Name Changed on December 26, 2013, 09:03:42 PM
Figure out what areas you want to be in.

The main attraction areas are
Sedona
Flagstaff
Phoenix/Scottsdale
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 26, 2013, 09:23:01 PM
i didnt stay in any hotels being that i was on seed. but the basics are the food at king solomons (dairy) and the resturant and grocery next door! both in phoenix. theres great night life in scottsdale (iimr) also theres great boating somewheres, i have to look up, around an hr away. theres of course sedona, and GC
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 27, 2013, 09:57:08 AM
im going to phoenix with my wife and a 3 month old
any recommendations of things to do?
we want to visit the grand canyon one of the days
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 29, 2013, 02:38:38 PM
im going to phoenix with my wife and a 3 month old
any recommendations of things to do?
we want to visit the grand canyon one of the days
sedona.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on December 30, 2013, 01:22:48 AM
theres great night life in scottsdale (iimr)
If I'm Moshe Rabeinu?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 30, 2013, 02:10:22 AM
If I'm Moshe Rabeinu?
its in the acronym thread... :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 30, 2013, 09:44:23 AM
Same here. Booked 4 days in May. When are you going?

1/19-1/23
looking for things to do
as of now, the plan is to hang out in phoenix sunday (we land at noon)
drive up to sedona at some point on monday (we have an infant with us so not sure how much we can do there and also trying to split up driving)
then driving and sleeping in flagstaff
driving to GC on tuesday
driving back to phoenix tuesday night
spending wednesday in phoenix
leaving on thursday at noon
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 30, 2013, 09:44:43 AM
1/19-1/23
looking for things to do
as of now, the plan is to hang out in phoenix sunday (we land at noon)
drive up to sedona at some point on monday (we have an infant with us so not sure how much we can do there and also trying to split up driving)
then driving and sleeping in flagstaff
driving to GC on tuesday
driving back to phoenix tuesday night
spending wednesday in phoenix
leaving on thursday at noon

but looking for suggestions any points along the way
thanks
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on December 31, 2013, 01:30:55 PM
Figure out what areas you want to be in.

The main attraction areas are
Sedona
Flagstaff
Phoenix/Scottsdale

what's with the grand canyon?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on January 02, 2014, 05:08:27 PM
http://azweatherchick.com/?p=53
This road is not for the fainthearted but absolutely beautiful. I did on the way down from Flagstaff to Sedona. Uphill may be harder.

Another place that looks amazing is Tonto Natural Bridge State Park.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on January 02, 2014, 05:38:28 PM
http://azweatherchick.com/?p=53
This road is not for the fainthearted but absolutely beautiful. I did on the way down from Flagstaff to Sedona. Uphill may be harder.

Another place that looks amazing is Tonto Natural Bridge State Park.
+1 on that drive, it's pretty awesome.
 I also highly recommend the hike someone recommended upthread, I think it's called Red Rock Creek. (the trailhead is off 89A)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 02, 2014, 05:47:56 PM
Everyone must got to nordstom last chance. i just sent my cousin (who lives in gilbert AZ) he bought a hickey freeman suit for 200 :)

i used to buy all my shirts there. before the slim fits were in style, and baggy was the style
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on January 02, 2014, 09:27:56 PM
Everyone must got to nordstom last chance. i just sent my cousin (who lives in gilbert AZ) he bought a hickey freeman suit for 200 :)

i used to buy all my shirts there. before the slim fits were in style, and baggy was the style
+1
-90%
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: txtmax4 on January 03, 2014, 12:17:08 AM
nordstom last chance
=Sweat smell
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 06, 2014, 11:59:27 AM
anyone ever been to:
out of africa park?
lowell observatory?
hows the drive on 89a from sedona to flagstaff? is it actually dangerous?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 07, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
anyone ever been to:
out of africa park?
lowell observatory?
hows the drive on 89a from sedona to flagstaff? is it actually dangerous?
anyone been to arizona who can chime in?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on January 07, 2014, 10:08:25 AM
anyone been to arizona who can chime in?

Was there the other week. 89a Sedona to Flagstaff is uphill, so it's probably easier to do it from Flagstaff to Sedona. I wouldn't call it dangerous if you are both an experienced and cautious driver, PAYOR (Proceed At Your Own Risk). On the other hand, if challenging driving freaks you out, then stay away please.

For me, it was one of the absolute highlights of my trip, and a real must-see. Just make sure there is no snow or ice on the road before you head out there.

Have fun!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 07, 2014, 10:25:56 AM
Was there the other week. 89a Sedona to Flagstaff is uphill, so it's probably easier to do it from Flagstaff to Sedona. I wouldn't call it dangerous if you are both an experienced and cautious driver, PAYOR (Proceed At Your Own Risk). On the other hand, if challenging driving freaks you out, then stay away please.

For me, it was one of the absolute highlights of my trip, and a real must-see. Just make sure there is no snow or ice on the road before you head out there.

Have fun!
do anything fun around sedona or flagstaff?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on January 07, 2014, 10:37:27 AM
do anything fun around sedona or flagstaff?

I just drove past on the way back from the Grand.

I saw people coming off this tour. Looks pretty awesome. $$$ too. http://pinkjeeptours.com/sedona/tour/broken-arrow-jeep-tour/

Otherwise, there are many awesome trails up the red mountains. Check out Bell Rock or Cathedral Rock.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 07, 2014, 10:42:33 AM
I just drove past on the way back from the Grand.

I saw people coming off this tour. Looks pretty awesome. $$$ too. http://pinkjeeptours.com/sedona/tour/broken-arrow-jeep-tour/

Otherwise, there are many awesome trails up the red mountains. Check out Bell Rock or Cathedral Rock.
im gonna have a 3 month old with us so not sure how great the tours will be
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on January 07, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
im gonna have a 3 month old with us so not sure how great the tours will be

I did many people going up mountains with baby bjorns or the like. Many trails are relatively easy.

Where do you plan on staying?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 07, 2014, 11:00:58 AM
I did many people going up mountains with baby bjorns or the like. Many trails are relatively easy.

Where do you plan on staying?
staying in phoenix for 2 days, then driving up to out of africa park, sedona area, flagstaff. sleeping over in flagstaff, driving to GC in the morning and then back to phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on January 07, 2014, 11:09:26 AM
staying in phoenix for 2 days, then driving up to out of africa park, sedona area, flagstaff. sleeping over in flagstaff, driving to GC in the morning and then back to phoenix

Sounds grand. Please talk to the local Rabbanim about which food establishments they recommend. Just because someone on ddf has eaten there doesn't mean it's the best kashrus.

Do not forget Nordstrom Last Chance in PHX. I got some neat metziahs there!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E on January 07, 2014, 11:36:03 AM
I just drove past on the way back from the Grand.

I saw people coming off this tour. Looks pretty awesome. $$$ too. http://pinkjeeptours.com/sedona/tour/broken-arrow-jeep-tour/

Otherwise, there are many awesome trails up the red mountains. Check out Bell Rock or Cathedral Rock.


no reason to go with them you can rent a jeep from Avis or elsewhere and do the drive yourself of course don't tell avis you are going off road.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 07, 2014, 12:34:02 PM
no reason to go with them you can rent a jeep from Avis or elsewhere and do the drive yourself of course don't tell avis you are going off road.

Any good route?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E on January 07, 2014, 12:39:22 PM
Any good route?
the 2 iv'e been to were both great Solider pass trail and Broken arrow, Broken arrow was much more scenic,.. you need a jeep any other 4x4 would not make it.

Here is a decent youtube clip of the trail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjZwrFGsWuY)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 07, 2014, 05:58:28 PM
Can I do Devil's Bridge Trail or any other sedona with a baby in a baby bjorns or the like?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 07, 2014, 06:05:56 PM
i did pink jeep tours back in the day (we barely had put licenses) wasnt gonna rent... it wasnt that expensive and it was amazing. the real reason why we went with them bec they knew where to go and take us. Also someone from the community paid for part of it.

Also go to the American Airlines Arena. there are some very cool fun tours there.

When we went, they were closed, so i started walking towards the building to look in while all the guys started walking back to the car.... low and behold the door was open... we went down to the court and the mercury were just suited up listening to coach and the cheerleaders were also practicing.... def a lot of fun
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on January 07, 2014, 06:26:29 PM
Can I do Devil's Bridge Trail or any other sedona with a baby in a baby bjorns or the like?
I did the West Fork trail in oak creek canyon, (I named it wrong a bit upthread.)
Awesome hike, totally doable with a baby bjorn.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: menachemw on January 09, 2014, 07:41:27 AM
anyone ever been to:
out of africa park?
lowell observatory?
hows the drive on 89a from sedona to flagstaff? is it actually dangerous?
I went to out of Africa many years ago in its original location, and it was nice.. I even helped hold a boa constricter snake!
Lowell observatory isn't worth it..you pay for looking through a telescope for a minute..
And someone already mentioned, but the drive on the 89a is a little tricky, but doesn't take a professional to navigate, and it's beautiful... I've been many times..
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 13, 2014, 08:27:13 AM
anything to do in sedona with a baby?
we are driving up from phoenix, sleeping in flagstaff, and then going to the grand canyon the next morning
we were gonna pass through sedona on the way up, but is there anything to do besides just driving by it and looking around?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 13, 2014, 08:44:13 AM
and also in terms of the grand canyon, should we park by the village and take the shuttle to a few stops to check it out? whats the best way to spend time by the GC, keeping in mind we have an infant with us
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 13, 2014, 12:27:40 PM
and also in terms of the grand canyon, should we park by the village and take the shuttle to a few stops to check it out? whats the best way to spend time by the GC, keeping in mind we have an infant with us

What date are you going?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 13, 2014, 01:12:01 PM
What date are you going?
im flying sunday from jfk and returning thursday
grand canyon is either tuesday or wednesday
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 13, 2014, 03:38:09 PM
im flying sunday from jfk and returning thursday
grand canyon is either tuesday or wednesday

The coming week

Is there no storm on the way?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 13, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
The coming week

Is there no storm on the way?

yes next week
why would there be a storm on the way?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 13, 2014, 03:59:59 PM
yes next week
why would there be a storm on the way?

How is the GC in the winter ?

Im going in March
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on January 13, 2014, 08:18:57 PM
im flying sunday from jfk and returning thursday
grand canyon is either tuesday or wednesday
Also going Sunday but returning the following Sunday. My tentative plan is as follows:
Monday- Boating and children's museum
Tuesday-Mexico and if needed Tuscon on the way back (tandem biking??)
Wednesday-Hole in the Rock and McCormick-Stillman Rrailroad Park and if needed Science Museum
Thursday and Friday- Sedona, Flagstaff, GC. Not sure whether to do Out of Africa or BeArizona (not sure the difference)

Any advice will be much appreciated

PS I am going with my wife, 7, 5 and 1.5 year old so the shopping at Last Chance will be at night when they are in bed
PPS I still need a place to stay thursday in Flagstaff or nearby. Any advice?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 14, 2014, 08:15:18 AM
Also going Sunday but returning the following Sunday. My tentative plan is as follows:
Monday- Boating and children's museum
Tuesday-Mexico and if needed Tuscon on the way back (tandem biking??)
Wednesday-Hole in the Rock and McCormick-Stillman Rrailroad Park and if needed Science Museum
Thursday and Friday- Sedona, Flagstaff, GC. Not sure whether to do Out of Africa or BeArizona (not sure the difference)

Any advice will be much appreciated

PS I am going with my wife, 7, 5 and 1.5 year old so the shopping at Last Chance will be at night when they are in bed
PPS I still need a place to stay thursday in Flagstaff or nearby. Any advice?

i chose out of africa bc there was a groupon. may still be
how you going about visiting GC?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 14, 2014, 01:54:50 PM

Monday- Boating and children's museum
Tuesday-Mexico and if needed Tuscon on the way back (tandem biking??)
Wednesday-Hole in the Rock and McCormick-Stillman Rrailroad Park and if needed Science Museum
dvice?

Mexico what do you mean?
Boating Where and what you doing with baby on boat and bike?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on January 14, 2014, 03:03:30 PM
Mexico what do you mean?
Boating Where and what you doing with baby on boat and bike?
Nogales
No reason why the baby can't go boating and in a seat attached to the bike
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 14, 2014, 03:16:29 PM
how are you touring the GC?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 14, 2014, 03:17:33 PM
and where you flying from and where you renting a car from and how much?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on January 14, 2014, 06:09:12 PM
how are you touring the GC?
no clue. Any advice?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on January 14, 2014, 06:14:44 PM
and where you flying from and where you renting a car from and how much?
Flying from JFK
Renting a car though carlrent.com (connected to a Mr. Teichman through the forums here) from Dollar. Gave me a minivan for half the best price anywhere else (although it was prepaid).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 08:36:54 AM
Flying from JFK
Renting a car though carlrent.com (connected to a Mr. Teichman through the forums here) from Dollar. Gave me a minivan for half the best price anywhere else (although it was prepaid).
how do i get in touch with him?
and i am also flying from JFK
sunday morning at 8?
i may just go to south rim and take the shuttle bus around and get out and look around
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 02:16:12 PM
how do i get in touch with him?
and i am also flying from JFK
sunday morning at 8?
i may just go to south rim and take the shuttle bus around and get out and look around

www.carlrent.com
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 02:26:34 PM
www.carlrent.com
it came up as no results
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
it came up as no results

For PHX

Just booked with the site
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 03:09:39 PM
For PHX

Just booked with the site
i searched phoenix, not sky harbor
it came up, and for thrifty, where i am currently booked, the price is much higher
they have some lower rates like fox and payless, but the online reviews are awful for them
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 03:15:26 PM
For PHX

Just booked with the site
what you planning on doing in arizona?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
i searched phoenix, not sky harbor

And what u getting for sky harbor?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
And what u getting for sky harbor?
20 different companies
fox, advantage, and payless were the cheapest but awful reviews
im sticking with thrifty which i booked through chase rewards
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 04:19:15 PM
what you planning on doing in arizona?

Waiting for your TR.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 04:21:33 PM
Waiting for your TR.
but im travelling with a 3 month old so not sure how exciting it will be :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 04:21:37 PM
20 different companies
fox, advantage, and payless were the cheapest but awful reviews
im sticking with thrifty which i booked through chase rewards

In city
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
but im travelling with a 3 month old so not sure how exciting it will be :)

Im going with a 12 month old
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 04:22:17 PM
In city
renting from thrifty by the airport
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 04:22:51 PM
renting from thrifty by the airport

car size?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 04:23:32 PM
were staying in phoenix from when we land until tuesday morning
driving up to sedona and then flagstaff
sleeping in flagstaff tuesday night
wednesday morning going to the GC
then driving back to phoenix and staying over wednesday night
thursday morning visiting chase field (can only visit the outside, due to MLK day no tours that week-my wife got lucky there)
1230 flight back to jfk
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 15, 2014, 04:23:52 PM
car size?
economy
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 15, 2014, 04:50:36 PM

thursday morning visiting chase field (can only visit the outside, due to MLK day no tours that week-my wife got lucky there)


So You have been to AZ in past
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 16, 2014, 08:21:36 AM
So You have been to AZ in past
i mean that next week i want to visit chase field, but due to MLK day next week there are no tours all week
so my wife is lucky :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on January 22, 2014, 11:46:28 PM
I think I'm gonna do a quick grand canyon / Sedona trip tomorrow (leaving l.a. tonight)
Any recommendations for a sunrise spot at the grand canyon?
I don't mind a shortish hike (< 1 hour) as long as it's not down and up a icy path...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 23, 2014, 10:11:13 PM
back from arizona
great trip, weather
did encanto park in phoenix, got to go into chase field where it seemed like they were setting up for some monster car show
out of africa, sedona, grand canyon
really great
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on January 23, 2014, 10:15:10 PM
back from arizona
great trip, weather
did encanto park in phoenix, got to go into chase field where it seemed like they were setting up for some monster car show
out of africa, sedona, grand canyon
really great
Nice!  We'll be there in mid-March for some hikes in Cave Creek and Sedona again.  You should've checked out Bearizona in Williams.  Pretty cool spot!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 23, 2014, 10:17:06 PM
Nice!  We'll be there in mid-March for some hikes in Cave Creek and Sedona again.  You should've checked out Bearizona in Williams.  Pretty cool spot!
i did out of africa which was really good i wasnt also going to do bearizona
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on January 23, 2014, 10:21:12 PM
Where's that located?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 23, 2014, 10:21:35 PM
Where's that located?
camp verde
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on January 23, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
camp verde
NE of Phoenix right?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E-MAN on January 24, 2014, 10:48:52 AM
back from arizona
great trip, weather
did encanto park in phoenix, got to go into chase field where it seemed like they were setting up for some monster car show
out of africa, sedona, grand canyon
really great
Please post a TR
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 26, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
flew business, with many other jews.  we then rented from thrifty and went straight to king solomons pizza which was good. then we went to the residence inn and settled in (and watched some brady/manning).  we went swimming for a bit, went to shul for mincha mariv and then picked up some food from imperial which was very good and also got a monster slurpee from circle K (all sizes are the same price). the next day we went to last chance which was awful bc it was crowded and hard to deal with, then we went to manhattan kosher pizza which was good, followed by zoyo which was very good frozen yogurt.  then we went to encanto park. we returned to the hotel for some swimming, then went to shul and picked up food from segals. the sesame chicken was amazing and we took some food for the next day also. in the morning, we drove to out of africa which was really cool, then drove through sedona, and took 89a up to flagstaff. stayed at springhill suites, swam in the indoor pool, and ate the segals food. in the morning we drove up to the grand canyon which was obviously very nice. leaving the park i got pulled over for going 62 in a 45, but the cop let us off. he said he will either write us a ticket or give me some good mussar (my words) so i opted for #2. we drove back to phoenix, went to shul, ate by segals again which was very good.
next morning we stopped by chase field, were able to get in via the tgi fridays and see the field (which seemed to be preparing for a monster truck show or something where they crush small cars) and then headed to the airport for the return trip.  business class again and they gave us monster pastrami sandwiches.
really good trip
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
Alex, I'll take a paragraph break for $250 please.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 26, 2014, 09:08:31 PM
was asked for a tr and was in a rush
feisty ppl here
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on January 27, 2014, 01:43:25 AM
Seems like there is still a  Groupon for out of Africa that's valid for a few more days.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 27, 2014, 07:32:29 AM
Seems like there is still a  Groupon for out of Africa that's valid for a few more days.
i used that groupon and went last week
you will still have to pay tax, only like 2 bucks
i had a great time at out of africa and im not usually a zoo guy
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on January 27, 2014, 10:13:20 PM
To get from flagstaff to gc google maps it's taking me on the 180 to the 64.
On yuneeqs map in the wiki he routes you on I40 to the 64.
It's this for any particular reason? Hired the drive on the 180?

I did it a few years ago Judy don't remember the route I took.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 28, 2014, 08:36:44 AM
To get from flagstaff to gc google maps it's taking me on the 180 to the 64.
On yuneeqs map in the wiki he routes you on I40 to the 64.
It's this for any particular reason? Hired the drive on the 180?

I did it a few years ago Judy don't remember the route I took.
last wednesday  i took 40 to 64
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 28, 2014, 05:50:04 PM
but im travelling with a 3 month old so not sure how exciting it will be :)

So how was it with a baby?

Any recommendations for sendora and GC trail with baby?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 28, 2014, 06:07:11 PM
flew business, with many other jews.  we then rented from thrifty and went straight to king solomons pizza which was good. then we went to the residence inn and settled in (and watched some brady/manning).  we went swimming for a bit, went to shul for mincha mariv and then picked up some food from imperial which was very good and also got a monster slurpee from circle K (all sizes are the same price). the next day we went to last chance which was awful bc it was crowded and hard to deal with, then we went to manhattan kosher pizza which was good, followed by zoyo which was very good frozen yogurt.  then we went to encanto park. we returned to the hotel for some swimming, then went to shul and picked up food from segals. the sesame chicken was amazing and we took some food for the next day also. in the morning, we drove to out of africa which was really cool, then drove through sedona, and took 89a up to flagstaff. stayed at springhill suites, swam in the indoor pool, and ate the segals food. in the morning we drove up to the grand canyon which was obviously very nice. leaving the park i got pulled over for going 62 in a 45, but the cop let us off. he said he will either write us a ticket or give me some good mussar (my words) so i opted for #2. we drove back to phoenix, went to shul, ate by segals again which was very good.
next morning we stopped by chase field, were able to get in via the tgi fridays and see the field (which seemed to be preparing for a monster truck show or something where they crush small cars) and then headed to the airport for the return trip.  business class again and they gave us monster pastrami sandwiches.
really good trip


Excuse me for the Q

How kosher are these pools for someone that does not go to a mixed beech etc.?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 29, 2014, 08:46:54 AM

Excuse me for the Q

How kosher are these pools for someone that does not go to a mixed beech etc.?

with a baby, it actually wasnt bad. he slept both flights.  the car rides at times got a bit rough, but i think he is the reason why the park ranger didnt write me up a ticket. he said he also had a 3 month old and instead of giving me a ticket just gave me mussar for driving over the speed limit with a baby in the car. as for the pool, by me it was pretty empty when i went so it wasnt a big deal. i went in with the baby and we were the only ones in the pool. plus, it was only upper 70s, so it wasnt such sunny weather for people to all lounge by the pool
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 29, 2014, 08:47:31 AM
So how was it with a baby?

Any recommendations for sendora and GC trail with baby?
whats sendora?
for GC, we walked/shuttled/drove to different lookout points. the baby then had enough so we had to go, but it was really nice while we were there
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 29, 2014, 03:54:21 PM
what's sendora?
for GC, we walked/shuttled/drove to different lookout points. the baby then had enough so we had to go, but it was really nice while we were there

sorry sedona, what is there to do there
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 30, 2014, 09:08:15 AM
sorry sedona, what is there to do there
i think just drive or walk around and look at the place
its really nice
i stopped at a tourist center and asked for some highlights to go see
she starts telling me about a few different chapels (i was wearing a kippa)
then she asks for my name and tells me hers and says she is also jewish
which leaves me to wonder, so why was 1 jew showing another all the churches to go see in sedona?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on January 30, 2014, 09:38:47 AM
sorry sedona, what is there to do there

The Pink Jeep tours are fun, and there are plenty of hiking trails of varying difficulty, including nice walks.

i stopped at a tourist center and asked for some highlights to go see
she starts telling me about a few different chapels (i was wearing a kippa)
then she asks for my name and tells me hers and says she is also jewish
which leaves me to wonder, so why was 1 jew showing another all the churches to go see in sedona?

Because they are common tourist attractions for reasons that have nothing to do with religion. Obviously as a frum Jew you wouldn't go there, but if she is living in Sedona, chances are she isn't aware of that.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 30, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
The Pink Jeep tours are fun, and there are plenty of hiking trails of varying difficulty, including nice walks.

They don't allow small children

Someone wrote to try doing it yourself with a rented jeep

Do you think it can work and is it safe as I have no experience in driving off road?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on January 30, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
They don't allow small children

Someone wrote to try doing it yourself with a rented jeep

Do you think it can work and is it safe as I have no experience in driving off road?

Minimum age is 18 months - per their website.

Personally, I wouldn't go on the same route they take, but maybe find a less treacherous one that you can more easily handle. Though, admittedly, I am a bit of a woos. When I went there was a private jeep behind us that our driver kind of mocked, and they did end up having a lot of trouble, and all the passengers actually got out while the driver tried to figure things out.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on February 02, 2014, 11:31:26 PM
Went to "Out of Africa" today, was really cool and enjoyable and I'm not the zoo type!!
Don't know if I would recommend it for a few guys going on a road trip, but going as a family is really nice. We paid the extra $5 for a close up train ride with feeding, was definitely worth it. All the animals were where they were supposed to be for the pictures :-)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on February 03, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
Went to "Out of Africa" today, was really cool and enjoyable and I'm not the zoo type!!
Don't know if I would recommend it for a few guys going on a road trip, but going as a family is really nice. We paid the extra $5 for a close up train ride with feeding, was definitely worth it. All the animals were where they were supposed to be for the pictures :-)

Can you recommend it for a couple without children?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 03, 2014, 01:10:21 PM
Can you recommend it for a couple without children?
i can
although i took a 3.5 month old, that wasnt why we went, nor was that why we liked it
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on February 03, 2014, 01:13:32 PM
Can you recommend it for a couple without children?
Yes. Recommended for couples to.
I just can't imagine feeding a giraffe with a couple of friends.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on February 03, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Can you recommend it for a couple without children?
Yes. Recommended for couples to.
I just can't imagine feeding a giraffe with a couple of friends.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 03, 2014, 01:27:09 PM
Yes. Recommended for couples to.
I just can't imagine feeding a giraffe with a couple of friends.
needed to post it twice?
you feed the giraffe from your mouth?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dreaming on February 03, 2014, 09:49:05 PM
I just came back from Arizona. I went with a three month old baby. I went to Last Chance. It is a crowded store that always has great prices and aggressive shoppers. Near Phoenix, about fifteen minutes away is a beautiful place that I went hiking up a hill with my baby. It is called Thunderbird. It is not possible to do it with a carriage so I held the baby in my hand but it is better to do it with a baby bjorn.
We went to Scottsdale and went on a free trolley and souvenir shopping.
One day I went to the GC. A few miles before the GC we saw an IMAX.. It was a waste of money because at the GC visitors center there is a free IMAX. At the GC we walked a bit and looked at all the viewpoints and then took a shuttle bus back to the visitor center.
I went to Sedona and I took a trolley around Sedona.  Afterwards we hiked up a mountain that is called the bell rock. This time we made sure to take along the Baby Bjorn. Then we went to look at the souvenir shop. It took an entire day.
The last day and the most interesting day of our trip was the Petrified forest. It is a nice and long drive, but totally worth it. We spent the entire day in the park and only left because it was closing. At the park you see the Painted Desert and Petrified forest.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 07, 2014, 03:52:18 AM
I just came back from Arizona. I went with a three month old baby. I went to Last Chance. It is a crowded store that always has great prices and aggressive shoppers. Near Phoenix, about fifteen minutes away is a beautiful place that I went hiking up a hill with my baby. It is called Thunderbird. It is not possible to do it with a carriage so I held the baby in my hand but it is better to do it with a baby bjorn.
We went to Scottsdale and went on a free trolley and souvenir shopping.
One day I went to the GC. A few miles before the GC we saw an IMAX.. It was a waste of money because at the GC visitors center there is a free IMAX. At the GC we walked a bit and looked at all the viewpoints and then took a shuttle bus back to the visitor center.
I went to Sedona and I took a trolley around Sedona.  Afterwards we hiked up a mountain that is called the bell rock. This time we made sure to take along the Baby Bjorn. Then we went to look at the souvenir shop. It took an entire day.
The last day and the most interesting day of our trip was the Petrified forest. It is a nice and long drive, but totally worth it. We spent the entire day in the park and only left because it was closing. At the park you see the Painted Desert and Petrified forest.
did you find anything at last chance? i love that place!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on February 07, 2014, 01:05:56 PM
did you find anything at last chance? i love that place!
I went 3 times over my trip, found nothing :-(
Sorry not wearing someone's old pair of canali pants or fungesed up slippers ;-)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 07, 2014, 01:38:52 PM
I went 3 times over my trip, found nothing :-(
Sorry not wearing someone's old pair of canali pants or fungesed up slippers ;-)
im with you, although i went once and that will suffice for a lifetime
crowded, gross, everything looks used
its like going to a jewish shuk
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 08, 2014, 04:36:13 PM
im with you, although i went once and that will suffice for a lifetime
crowded, gross, everything looks used
its like going to a jewish shuk
I found brand new shirts. I just needed white shirts.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on February 08, 2014, 07:02:44 PM
I found brand new shirts. I just needed white shirts.
I did find a brand new pair of Hugo boss pants, just want my size.
You can find new or very slightly used merchandise, it's just hard.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dreaming on February 09, 2014, 09:22:04 PM
I did find great  things at last chance but I did not like the aggressive shoppers.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Deal man on February 13, 2014, 08:35:49 PM
Looking for a nice hotel in Scottsdale area, or close to PHX, with lots of pools, to just chill.

I see the Hyatt Regency is favored by alot of ddfr's, however i noticed they allow pets in the hotel...

Any other hotel suggestions?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on February 23, 2014, 04:10:44 PM
In lite of my upcoming trip I read through this thread and fished out all attractions.
As it might  a help for some one i"m posting it
Please if you have comments let us know.


www.experience-az.com/

Lake Powell az
http://www.lakepowell.com/
Further north then GC

Fossil creek az
Out of Africa Wildlife Park, Camp Verde, AZ


Petrified forest az

Phoenix parks
Thunderbird park az
Encanto park az


Sedona

www.wildsedona.com  lots of info

Great soldier pass trail Sedona
Devil's Bridge Trail looks easy
Broken Arrow Trail
Oak Creek Canyon
west fork trail in oak creek canyon az
Cathedral Rock
Bell rock

Grand Canyon

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g143028-d103752/Grand-Canyon-National-Park:Arizona:Grand.Canyon.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g143028-i157-k3379213-Please_read_this_before_you_post_Grand_Canyon_FAQs-Grand_Canyon_National_Park_Arizona.html

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g143028-c69540/Grand-Canyon-National-Park:Arizona:Anyone.Especially.Non.U.S.Visitors.html


Grand canyon vister's canter  IMAX

The Grand Canyon Rim Trail
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Guide-g143028-i122-Grand_Canyon_National_Park_Arizona.html

South Kaibab Trail

Bright Angel Trail

Havasu Canyon
Part of GC long hike

HELICOPTER

http://www.papillon.com/
http://www.grandcanyonhelicopter.com/
http://www.maverickhelicopter.com/default.aspx

Bearizona az


Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on February 23, 2014, 04:18:05 PM
Maybe add to Wiki? Or at least link to it in the Wiki?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: moto on April 02, 2014, 09:21:23 PM
Any ideas of where i can stay near the grand canyon ??

like which hotels there ? points?
TIA :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 04, 2014, 01:51:34 AM
Looking for a nice hotel in Scottsdale area, or close to PHX, with lots of pools, to just chill.

I see the Hyatt Regency is favored by alot of ddfr's, however i noticed they allow pets in the hotel...

Any other hotel suggestions?
The Phoenician. It's a Starwood property, haven't been there in like 5 years but IIRC it has like 9 pools.... Really great place, they had great service as well.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on April 04, 2014, 09:14:53 AM
Any ideas of where i can stay near the grand canyon ??

like which hotels there ? points?
TIA :)
I stayed in the Flagstaff West Ramada. Paid $47/night/room. It's more like an inn/motel but it was very nice and clean.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on April 04, 2014, 12:08:07 PM
I stayed in the Flagstaff West Ramada. Paid $47/night/room. It's more like an inn/motel but it was very nice and clean.
phoneician is nowhere near GC
i stayed in marriott springhill suites in flagstaff with points
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on April 06, 2014, 04:54:34 PM
Any ideas of where i can stay near the grand canyon ??

like which hotels there ? points?
TIA :)

I stayed in DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Flagstaff via name your price for $46 and got upgraded
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on May 07, 2014, 10:47:45 AM
Going to Scottsdale for a long Memorial Day weekend. Planning a trip to Sedona and The Grand Canyon for either Sunday or Sunday/Monday.

I need to decide on doing a single very long day trip on Sunday and getting everything in or doing Sedona on Sunday staying over in Flagstaff and doing Grand Canyon on Monday. We will be traveling with a 3 and 6 year old which limits what we can do at either place.

I wanted to get feedback from those who have done the trip and what you would suggest.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 07, 2014, 10:48:26 AM
Going to Scottsdale for a long Memorial Day weekend. Planning a trip to Sedona and The Grand Canyon for either Sunday or Sunday/Monday.

I need to decide on doing a single very long day trip on Sunday and getting everything in or doing Sedona on Sunday staying over in Flagstaff and doing Grand Canyon on Monday. We will be traveling with a 3 and 6 year old which limits what we can do at either place.

I wanted to get feedback from those who have done the trip and what you would suggest.
2 Days, esp in the heat.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on May 07, 2014, 11:00:02 AM
Going to Scottsdale for a long Memorial Day weekend. Planning a trip to Sedona and The Grand Canyon for either Sunday or Sunday/Monday.

I need to decide on doing a single very long day trip on Sunday and getting everything in or doing Sedona on Sunday staying over in Flagstaff and doing Grand Canyon on Monday. We will be traveling with a 3 and 6 year old which limits what we can do at either place.

I wanted to get feedback from those who have done the trip and what you would suggest.
You could do it one day if you had to, but I would recommend two days.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 07, 2014, 11:47:32 AM
Going to Scottsdale for a long Memorial Day weekend. Planning a trip to Sedona and The Grand Canyon for either Sunday or Sunday/Monday.

I need to decide on doing a single very long day trip on Sunday and getting everything in or doing Sedona on Sunday staying over in Flagstaff and doing Grand Canyon on Monday. We will be traveling with a 3 and 6 year old which limits what we can do at either place.

I wanted to get feedback from those who have done the trip and what you would suggest.
i personally wasnt in sedona for long but i really liked out of africa safari in camp verde. i stopped there for a few hours, passed through sedona briefly, and stayed in flagstaff. then did the grand canyon the next day and drove back to phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on May 07, 2014, 12:47:58 PM
2 Days, esp in the heat.

You could do it one day if you had to, but I would recommend two days.

i personally wasnt in sedona for long but i really liked out of africa safari in camp verde. i stopped there for a few hours, passed through sedona briefly, and stayed in flagstaff. then did the grand canyon the next day and drove back to phoenix

Thanks guys. I was leaning towards two days also but wanted some feedback from those with experience.

Just need to figure out what to do for the second day at the Grand Canyon since a lot of the more extreme things are out...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 07, 2014, 12:54:51 PM
Thanks guys. I was leaning towards two days also but wanted some feedback from those with experience.

Just need to figure out what to do for the second day at the Grand Canyon since a lot of the more extreme things are out...
not sure you actually need 2 days at the canyon.
but with the driving to and from scottsdale you need 2 days
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 07, 2014, 12:55:18 PM
not sure you actually need 2 days at the canyon.
but with the driving to and from scottsdale you need 2 days
i had a 3 month old in the car, not a 3 and 6 year old
but my son got me out of a speeding ticket so that was good
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on May 07, 2014, 12:58:24 PM
I recommend two days but could be done in one.  Out of africa was very good. My kids (1.5, 5, and 7) loved it. Make sure you chop a good schmooze with Al, the trolley driver. About 1/2 before the GC there is a small but enjoyable airplane museum which is a good stop to stretch your legs (30 minutes or so).
One thing that you should note is that you can not walk into just any store and get kosher products. We stayed overnight in Flagstaff and took along  vacuum packed deli. Planned on getting bread from the local Walmart. But none of the bread had a hechsher (even the great value brand which does have a hechsher on the east coast). Finally I found one brand that was good, I think it was Bambino or something. But you really have to look for it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on May 08, 2014, 05:08:51 PM
Out of africa was very good. My kids (1.5, 5, and 7) loved it. Make sure you chop a good schmooze with Al, the trolley driver.

This is nice only for kids
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on May 09, 2014, 01:51:00 AM
I was there in January, I drove out from LA.
I got the GC for sunrise then spent most of day there planning on going to Sedona for sunset.
As it turned out, I made a mistake on the timing and thought I had an hour more than I actually did, so once I realized I wouldn't make it to Sedona i just stayed at the GC.

1. Someone CMIIW, but I'm thinking now that a full day at the GC this time of year might possibly be a bit much.
When I went I spent a nice chunk of the day taking the trail to ooh-ah point, something (hiking in the GC anytime other than early morning/evening) which is probably not a good idea this time of year. (unless it hasn't gotten really hot yet?)

I highly recommend driving the 89a from Flagstaff to Sedona close to sunset, I did that on another trip and it's absolutely stunning.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on May 09, 2014, 02:25:15 AM
I was there in January, I drove out from LA.
I got the GC for sunrise then spent most of day there planning on going to Sedona for sunset.
As it turned out, I made a mistake on the timing and thought I had an hour more than I actually did, so once I realized I wouldn't make it to Sedona i just stayed at the GC.

1. Someone CMIIW, but I'm thinking now that a full day at the GC this time of year might possibly be a bit much.
When I went I spent a nice chunk of the day taking the trail to ooh-ah point, something (hiking in the GC anytime other than early morning/evening) which is probably not a good idea this time of year. (unless it hasn't gotten really hot yet?)

I highly recommend driving the 89a from Flagstaff to Sedona close to sunset, I did that on another trip and it's absolutely stunning.
+1 and have your wife drive so that you could look at the scenery and the beautiful work of Hashem (by me, my wife doesn't appreciate nature too much. She grew up in Brooklyn :) )
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on May 09, 2014, 09:36:25 AM
I was there in January, I drove out from LA.
I got the GC for sunrise then spent most of day there planning on going to Sedona for sunset.
As it turned out, I made a mistake on the timing and thought I had an hour more than I actually did, so once I realized I wouldn't make it to Sedona i just stayed at the GC.

1. Someone CMIIW, but I'm thinking now that a full day at the GC this time of year might possibly be a bit much.
When I went I spent a nice chunk of the day taking the trail to ooh-ah point, something (hiking in the GC anytime other than early morning/evening) which is probably not a good idea this time of year. (unless it hasn't gotten really hot yet?)

I highly recommend driving the 89a from Flagstaff to Sedona close to sunset, I did that on another trip and it's absolutely stunning.

I found when I was there in March that 7 hours was way to short.
I see my self going back as I have so much more to see.

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 09, 2014, 10:03:31 AM
I was there in January, I drove out from LA.
I got the GC for sunrise then spent most of day there planning on going to Sedona for sunset.
As it turned out, I made a mistake on the timing and thought I had an hour more than I actually did, so once I realized I wouldn't make it to Sedona i just stayed at the GC.

1. Someone CMIIW, but I'm thinking now that a full day at the GC this time of year might possibly be a bit much.
When I went I spent a nice chunk of the day taking the trail to ooh-ah point, something (hiking in the GC anytime other than early morning/evening) which is probably not a good idea this time of year. (unless it hasn't gotten really hot yet?)

I highly recommend driving the 89a from Flagstaff to Sedona close to sunset, I did that on another trip and it's absolutely stunning.
When I went, in August, we got there in the evening and did some of the rim hike and then woke up early and did the bright angel trail to plateau point (6 miles each way). We were out of the canyon by early afternoon. It was very hot. After that, we were spent and we went back to LA.
There is a scenic drive you can do as well
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on May 09, 2014, 10:29:44 AM
1. Someone CMIIW, but I'm thinking now that a full day at the GC this time of year might possibly be a bit much.
When I went I spent a nice chunk of the day taking the trail to ooh-ah point, something (hiking in the GC anytime other than early morning/evening) which is probably not a good idea this time of year. (unless it hasn't gotten really hot yet?)

This week seems to still be cool (high 70's low 30's) but the end of the day 10 forecast (closer to when I am going) shows 80 for the high and 45 for the low.

I highly recommend driving the 89a from Flagstaff to Sedona close to sunset, I did that on another trip and it's absolutely stunning.

I was planning to do the reverse doing 89a from Sedona to Flagstaff near sunset time. I would assume that will be a similar experience to the reverse.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 09, 2014, 10:34:38 AM

This week seems to still be cool (high 70's low 30's) but the end of the day 10 forecast (closer to when I am going) shows 80 for the high and 45 for the low.

I was planning to do the reverse doing 89a from Sedona to Flagstaff near sunset time. I would assume that will be a similar experience to the reverse.
i did this drive
its twists and turns through the mountain the whole way
funny to watch on a gps
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: whYME on May 09, 2014, 03:17:12 PM
I was planning to do the reverse doing 89a from Sedona to Flagstaff near sunset time. I would assume that will be a similar experience to the reverse.
This is just a guess, but I think the timing of it works out better Flagstaff > Sedona.
If my memory serves me correctly, you'll have brighter light in the greener more mountainous area closer to Flagstaff then when you get closer to Sedona you'll have all the red rocks practically glowing with the sunset light.

when I did it I left left the flagstaff area somewhat earlier in the day and did (a chunk of) the west fork trail before continuing on to Sedona. It's a great trail, I highly recommend it. When I did it my kids were 7, 6, and just barely 3, they had a great time. It's much more pleasant than hiking the GC. I did my GC hike in the middle of January and even then it was getting quite uncomfortable once the sun starting baking down on us. The West Fork trail was mostly in the shade.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Sammy82 on May 09, 2014, 05:26:21 PM
BTW, a short half day trip my kids enjoyed was The Hole in the Rock. It's about 10 minutes from Jewish phoenix. Basically you hike for about 5 minutes up a mountain (easy hike, probably even with a stroller). Near the top there is a big hole that you could go thru, have a picnic, take pics, etc. Afterwards we hiked off trail for 2 hours. Lots of fun.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on May 25, 2014, 10:13:34 PM
No 89a drive for me :-( . Closed because of this forest fire (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/26/e4a8anyn.jpg)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shauly on August 18, 2014, 09:53:28 PM
My grandparents live in Phoenix, and I fly out there every year or so. We are here now for the weekend.

We took a boat tour of Saguaro lake, less than an hour out of Phoenix. It was air conditioned, and the views were breathtaking. http://www.desertbelle.com/

King Solomon's pizza closed overnight. Thursday it was there, motzei shabbos the place was gutted. La Bella pizza is incredible though, I think it's fairly new.

On a previous visit, we went to this zoo type thing called Out of Africa, which was awesome. It was a bit of a drive though if I remember..
http://outofafricapark.com/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BarryLincoln on September 18, 2014, 11:27:51 AM
I am thinking about planning a 5-day family trip to Phoenix/Scottsdale in January.  Can anyone provide guidance on weather? I understand that it's much cooler than in the summer - but am wondering whether it's comfortable enough for the pool/water activities...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on September 18, 2014, 11:33:27 AM
I am thinking about planning a 5-day family trip to Phoenix/Scottsdale in January.  Can anyone provide guidance on weather? I understand that it's much cooler than in the summer - but am wondering whether it's comfortable enough for the pool/water activities...

From here it looks a bit cool for swimming: Monthly Averages for Scottsdale, AZ  (http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USAZ0207)

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on September 18, 2014, 01:47:47 PM
I am thinking about planning a 5-day family trip to Phoenix/Scottsdale in January.  Can anyone provide guidance on weather? I understand that it's much cooler than in the summer - but am wondering whether it's comfortable enough for the pool/water activities...
i was there in january
the mornings and nights are a bit cool but early afternoon around 2 can get pretty hot
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Name Changed on September 18, 2014, 02:00:07 PM
I am thinking about planning a 5-day family trip to Phoenix/Scottsdale in January.  Can anyone provide guidance on weather? I understand that it's much cooler than in the summer - but am wondering whether it's comfortable enough for the pool/water activities...
I was there in February.

Weather in Scottsdale was in the 70's

People were swimming, I wasn't.

More north - Sedona, Grand Canyon area were a lot colder.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on October 18, 2014, 09:49:21 PM
Hi! I'm IY"H leaving Sunday to PHX (Phoenix AZ) with an infant and returning Tuesday. My plan is to drive to Sedona, booked 2 nights in the Sedona Real Inn. Planning on going Monday to the GC. I want to watch the IMAX and do the South kaibab trail. I also want to visit red rock and bell rock in sedona. Can anyone advise if my plan is good? Anything else i must do? Is the s. Kaibab trail enough or should i do another trail? Scarry?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on November 16, 2014, 12:05:51 PM
I am thinking about planning a 5-day family trip to Phoenix/Scottsdale in January.  Can anyone provide guidance on weather? I understand that it's much cooler than in the summer - but am wondering whether it's comfortable enough for the pool/water activities...
Swimming season ends around October 1st unless you have a heated pool.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 13, 2015, 05:09:50 PM
I need some help with a vacation in Arizona I have read the TR here but still need help where to stay for shabbes should I rent a vila or a hotel and I am going with 2 kids age 4 and 1 any help please ?

also what the area name of the jewish community ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on January 13, 2015, 05:21:30 PM
I need some help with a vacation in Arizona I have read the TR here but still need help where to stay for shabbes should I rent a vila or a hotel and I am going with 2 kids age 4 and 1 any help please ?

also what the area name of the jewish community ?

I stayed at the Westin Kierland (http://kierlandresort.com/) which is a great hotel and walked to Ahavas Torah (I added the info to the wiki). The walk was was about 25 minutes (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Westin+Kierland+Resort+%26+Spa,+East+Greenway+Parkway,+Scottsdale,+AZ/Ahavas+Torah:Scottsdale+Torah+Center,+MAILING+ADDRESS,+7011+East+Thunderbird+Road,+Scottsdale,+AZ+85254/@33.617155,-111.9344828,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x872b04fadd73e5ed:0xfa8ac5d71e0e9636!2m2!1d-111.933947!2d33.623036!1m5!1m1!1s0x872b7469c9dfaa91:0x13e58917f3827ea6!2m2!1d-111.929881!2d33.61221!3e2).

I was there with my kids who were ages 2 and 4 at the time and they had a great time at the hotel. Lots of fun things for them to day and the pool is great for kids.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 13, 2015, 05:57:31 PM
how should I spend my week there should I do day trips or should I stay where I am traveling to ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 13, 2015, 07:13:47 PM
which area should I stay Phoenix, AZ or Scottsdale, AZ which one is nicer ? where is the kosher food and what airport do we use to come from NY is it PHX ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 13, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
which area should I stay Phoenix, AZ or Scottsdale, AZ which one is nicer ? where is the kosher food and what airport do we use to come from NY is it PHX ?
Scottsdale is much nicer IMHO.
how should I spend my week there should I do day trips or should I stay where I am traveling to ?
If you're willing, you can probably manage doing day trips to all sites (though I don't know how that would work out with kids).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 13, 2015, 08:06:08 PM
Scottsdale is much nicer IMHO.If you're willing, you can probably manage doing day trips to all sites (though I don't know how that would work out with kids).

So whats my  other options ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on January 13, 2015, 10:34:03 PM
Scottsdale is much nicer IMHO.If you're willing, you can probably manage doing day trips to all sites (though I don't know how that would work out with kids).

+1 scottsdale vs Phoenix

Kosher food is in Phoenix, a couple min from Scottsdale.

You may want to spend one night at Sedona or Flagstaff.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on January 14, 2015, 10:12:53 AM
Any decent kosher food options in Scottsdale or everything is in Phoenix?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 14, 2015, 10:30:00 AM
Last time I was there, it was all Phoenix, but that was a while ago
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on January 14, 2015, 10:39:04 AM
Thank you
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 14, 2015, 12:11:30 PM
Thank you
i enjoyed segals in phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 14, 2015, 01:46:16 PM
i enjoyed segals in phoenix
+1
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 14, 2015, 03:07:40 PM
where in Scottsdale should I stay If the W is not available my date ?

what should I do in Sedona ? and on the way to the Grand C
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 14, 2015, 03:08:14 PM
where in Scottsdale should I stay If the W is not available my date ?

what should I do in Sedona ? and on the way to the Grand C
Out of africa safari
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 14, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Out of africa safar

is that in Sedona ? what elso any nice look out on the way where to stop I am going with a baby and a 4 year old
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 14, 2015, 03:12:30 PM
Out of africa safar

is that in Sedona ? what elso any nice look out on the way where to stop I am going with a baby and a 4 year old
having some trouble with the quote feature? putting owrds in my mouth? ;)
sedona area is past there and a very nice area to look out
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on January 14, 2015, 08:21:59 PM
Last time I was there, it was all Phoenix, but that was a while ago

+1 phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on January 14, 2015, 08:23:18 PM
where in Scottsdale should I stay If the W is not available my date ?

what should I do in Sedona ? and on the way to the Grand C

The Phoenician. Or better The Canyon Suites @ The Phoenician
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on January 14, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
where in Scottsdale should I stay If the W is not available my date ?

what should I do in Sedona ? and on the way to the Grand C

Pink Jeep Tours
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on January 14, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
Any decent kosher food options in Scottsdale or everything is in Phoenix?
Scottsdale has at least 4 options
Kitchen 18 - deli and restaurant
Mozart cafe - dairy cafe
Paprika - shawarma / middle eastern
Fresh mint - vegetarian tai
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 14, 2015, 09:33:38 PM
Pink Jeep Tours

I am going with kids ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on January 14, 2015, 09:34:34 PM
The Phoenician. Or better The Canyon Suites @ The Phoenician


R they walking dissented to the shoul ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on January 14, 2015, 09:41:29 PM
Scottsdale has at least 4 options

Mozart cafe - dairy cafe

Anyhow related to the Mozart in MIA/Boca?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on January 15, 2015, 08:10:18 AM
I am going with kids ?
Is that a question?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shoshannahh on January 16, 2015, 10:31:57 AM
I am going with kids ?

we did the Pink Jeep Tour with a 18 month old.  i let them know in advance and they had prepared a car seat for him.  we really enjoyed it!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toronto on January 26, 2015, 01:45:25 PM
I have 2 reservations booked in Scottsdale for Shabbos in a couple of weeks - the Westin Kierland Villas &  The Phoenician Resort. Which one should I keep/cancel?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BarryLincoln on January 26, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
I have 2 reservations booked in Scottsdale for Shabbos in a couple of weeks - the Westin Kierland Villas &  The Phoenician Resort. Which one should I keep/cancel?

Both are great.  Kierland Villas come with full kitchens, not sure about Phoenician.  Phoenician is higher-end I believe.  Depends on your preferences...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toronto on January 26, 2015, 02:07:25 PM
Both are great.  Kierland Villas come with full kitchens, not sure about Phoenician.  Phoenician is higher-end I believe.  Depends on your preferences...

Yes the Villas in Kierland have a full kitchen vs none @ the Phoenician. Just have to decide if an additional 40K SPG for a weekend is worthwhile for the Villas ( I already have a separate booking Mon - Fri at the Kierland villas).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on January 26, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
Yes the Villas in Kierland have a full kitchen vs none @ the Phoenician. Just have to decide if an additional 40K SPG for a weekend is worthwhile for the Villas ( I already have a separate booking Mon - Fri at the Kierland villas).

No kitchen in the Phoenician but you can get a free fridge and microwave. Service was impeccable at the Canyon Suites @ the Phoenician.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 26, 2015, 04:16:24 PM
Yes the Villas in Kierland have a full kitchen vs none @ the Phoenician. Just have to decide if an additional 40K SPG for a weekend is worthwhile for the Villas ( I already have a separate booking Mon - Fri at the Kierland villas).
You'd get the fifth night free if you extended your stay
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toronto on January 26, 2015, 05:20:10 PM
You'd get the fifth night free if you extended your stay

Thanks, but I was targeted for an offer (time share) from Westin Kierland from Mon-Fri (4 nights $349) so I booked the weekend with points.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toronto on February 08, 2015, 11:16:12 PM
Which restaurant is better - Segal's Oasis Grill or Imperial? Which dish?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on February 08, 2015, 11:37:11 PM
Which restaurant is better - Segal's Oasis Grill or Imperial? Which dish?
I was only at Segals. Delicious!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toronto on February 08, 2015, 11:38:27 PM
great! what do you order at Segal's?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on February 09, 2015, 12:13:22 AM
Which restaurant is better - Segal's Oasis Grill or Imperial? Which dish?
Segal's offers sit down, Imperial - not so much..
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 09, 2015, 09:18:46 AM
great! what do you order at Segal's?
Sesame chicken and have me in mind
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Smartypantz on February 16, 2015, 10:41:10 AM
Thinking of going to grand Canyon end of June/ beginning of july. Is it really brutally hot there then?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on February 16, 2015, 10:44:20 AM
Thinking of going to grand Canyon end of June/ beginning of july. Is it really brutally hot there then?
The overall area is brutal - 100+ every day.
http://www.nps.gov/grca/faqs.htm#like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Canyon#Weather
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on February 16, 2015, 02:13:42 PM
has anyone been put up for Shabbos at local families?
My husband and I are going to Arizona and were trying to figure out the Shabbos arrangements part.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on February 16, 2015, 05:36:56 PM
has anyone been put up for Shabbos at local families?
My husband and I are going to Arizona and were trying to figure out the Shabbos arrangements part.
Call the Chabad house (or other org.) for help in this department.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 16, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
Thinking of going to grand Canyon end of June/ beginning of july. Is it really brutally hot there then?
If you get an early start, you can get in a good hike before the heat of the day. I definitely think it's worth going. Arrive in the late afternoon. Go around the rim a little bit. Do an early hike the next morning. Move on to Bryce and Zion
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 16, 2015, 10:16:39 PM
Sesame chicken and have me in mind
first go to king solomens get the zeplees

then go to segals get the ribs!

then make a right out of the parking lot go around 4 lights down make a left and on the right side is last chance... spend a lot of time there :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yslkwd on March 01, 2015, 09:33:36 PM
does anyone know what i can in sedona with a few hours without jeeping (my son's too young)
that i can see sedona.. without to much walking (limited time)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on March 01, 2015, 09:38:31 PM
has anyone been put up for Shabbos at local families?
My husband and I are going to Arizona and were trying to figure out the Shabbos arrangements part.
Where in AZ are you talking about? There's a shul in Scottsdale that puts people up for lodging and meals great experience.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on March 01, 2015, 09:38:59 PM
does anyone know what i can in sedona with a few hours without jeeping (my son's too young)
that i can see sedona.. without to much walking (limited time)

When we were there we did a short hike to Cathedral Rock. The trail is long but we only did the lower portion which my kids loved and was a nice hike.

If you are there for sunset you can go to the top of Airport Road to watch a great sunset
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 10, 2015, 01:21:38 AM
I'm looking to rent a private house for pesach. Pref with a pool.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 10, 2015, 10:09:16 AM
bump.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on March 26, 2015, 11:10:37 PM
Booked a trip to Arizona in april :)any recommendations where to stay for two nights in sedona?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on March 26, 2015, 11:42:45 PM
Booked a trip to Arizona in april :)any recommendations where to stay for two nights in sedona?
The Enchantment, L'Auberge, Amara, Hyatt or Hilton (in that order)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on March 27, 2015, 09:22:04 AM
The Enchantment, L'Auberge, Amara, Hyatt or Hilton (in that order)
thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on March 27, 2015, 10:43:02 AM
The Enchantment, L'Auberge, Amara, Hyatt or Hilton (in that order)

The enchantment looks incredible but not cheap. Any way to get rooms cheaper?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on March 27, 2015, 11:33:45 AM
The enchantment looks incredible but not cheap. Any way to get rooms cheaper?
Not that I was able to find, if you do, let me know!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on March 27, 2015, 12:02:13 PM
Booked the hyatt 12k a night :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on March 27, 2015, 12:50:24 PM
Booked the hyatt 12k a night :)
It's in a great location in the town center, Enjoy!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on March 27, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
It's in a great location in the town center, Enjoy!
thanks for the advice :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on April 03, 2015, 02:18:41 AM
I read through most of the thread and Im trying to finalize my itinirary
We are staying in phoenix and have four days to travel. full day trips but no overnights. We are into natural beauty, parks, hiking up to 2-3 miles RT
What are the must do's aside for GC and Sedona?
Im thinking something along the lines of Day 1: GC day 2: Dedona Day 3 Tuscon/senora Day 4 ??
I know that technically GC and Sedona are in the same direction, but can you do both in one day?
Antalope canyon, havasu falls, Glen Canyon.. Any way to tie those in?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 03, 2015, 09:22:30 AM
I read through most of the thread and Im trying to finalize my itinirary
We are staying in phoenix and have four days to travel. full day trips but no overnights. We are into natural beauty, parks, hiking up to 2-3 miles RT
What are the must do's aside for GC and Sedona?
Im thinking something along the lines of Day 1: GC day 2: Dedona Day 3 Tuscon/senora Day 4 ??
I know that technically GC and Sedona are in the same direction, but can you do both in one day?
Antalope canyon, havasu falls, Glen Canyon.. Any way to tie those in?
GC and Sedona are tough in one day, especially with the drive, but to drive to GC and back and then Sedona and back is a waste, sleeping over is the way to go. I believe Havasu falls is way out and not worth the hours it takes to get there.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on April 03, 2015, 11:05:27 AM
I read through most of the thread and Im trying to finalize my itinirary
We are staying in phoenix and have four days to travel. full day trips but no overnights. We are into natural beauty, parks, hiking up to 2-3 miles RT
What are the must do's aside for GC and Sedona?
Im thinking something along the lines of Day 1: GC day 2: Dedona Day 3 Tuscon/senora Day 4 ??
I know that technically GC and Sedona are in the same direction, but can you do both in one day?
Antalope canyon, havasu falls, Glen Canyon.. Any way to tie those in?
You can do both Sedona & Grand Canyon in 1 day if you leave early AM to Sedona. Or as Aj3042 recommended, staying overnight in Sedona, Flagstaff etc.
If your driving to Tucson, you can visit Bisbee & Tombstone.
In Phoenix itself there are many mountain hikes and scenery to enjoy.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on April 03, 2015, 11:31:22 AM
I read through most of the thread and Im trying to finalize my itinirary
We are staying in phoenix and have four days to travel. full day trips but no overnights. We are into natural beauty, parks, hiking up to 2-3 miles RT
What are the must do's aside for GC and Sedona?
Im thinking something along the lines of Day 1: GC day 2: Dedona Day 3 Tuscon/senora Day 4 ??
I know that technically GC and Sedona are in the same direction, but can you do both in one day?
Antalope canyon, havasu falls, Glen Canyon.. Any way to tie those in?

It's a really long drive to do in one day. Phoenix to GC is 3.5 hours each way. GC and Sedona is a perfect 2 day trip... 1 day for both makes it a real rush job. IMHO you don't get to sit and experience the grandeur if you are on such a tight schedule.

Are you travelling with kids or only adults?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 03, 2015, 12:08:31 PM
It's a really long drive to do in one day. Phoenix to GC is 3.5 hours each way. GC and Sedona is a perfect 2 day trip... 1 day for both makes it a real rush job. IMHO you don't get to sit and experience the grandeur if you are on such a tight schedule.

Are you travelling with kids or only adults?
That's what I'm saying too. Can it be "done" in one day? Yes. Should it? No.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on April 06, 2015, 02:51:48 AM
We are adult only. Its pesach. Sleeping over isn't really an option for practicality and minyan
Is there minyan anywhere up north ( so that we can leave in the AM hours)
According to Go Daven there isn't.

It seems like GC and Sedona can each be a full day. I guess its too bad for the additional drive. Any specific highways to take to make the most of the drive?
Any NOT TO BE MISSED sights in the neighborhood?
Any suggestions regarding Out of Africa? Is it any diff from the San Diego Safari, we did that not long ago..

Is Mt Lemmon Worth the 3.5 hr drive from Phoenix?

FYI someone suggested the Hole in the rock. Awesome Idea! We did it on Erev Yom Tov. Perfect for a short day. Anything else like it- short hike, nice view and in phoenix for next Friday?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 06, 2015, 09:32:31 AM
We are adult only. Its pesach. Sleeping over isn't really an option for practicality and minyan
Is there minyan anywhere up north ( so that we can leave in the AM hours)
According to Go Daven there isn't.

It seems like GC and Sedona can each be a full day. I guess its too bad for the additional drive. Any specific highways to take to make the most of the drive?
Any NOT TO BE MISSED sights in the neighborhood?
Any suggestions regarding Out of Africa? Is it any diff from the San Diego Safari, we did that not long ago..

Is Mt Lemmon Worth the 3.5 hr drive from Phoenix?

FYI someone suggested the Hole in the rock. Awesome Idea! We did it on Erev Yom Tov. Perfect for a short day. Anything else like it- short hike, nice view and in phoenix for next Friday?
The drive is very nice. I believe there's basically one way people go (don't remember details) and it passes by the mountains and is something to see.
Also let me warn you-about an hour away from GC is this town that probably makes a living off ticketing people heading to GC. Make sure your driving at or below the speed limit, not at all above, when you pass by these towns along the highway. Use waze but don't rely on it completely.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on April 06, 2015, 10:38:38 AM
Thanks! Thata a good piece of advice. I do recall reading on the thread that someone got a ticket. I guess it's not a one time accurance.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 06, 2015, 11:05:49 AM
Thanks! Thata a good piece of advice. I do recall reading on the thread that someone got a ticket. I guess it's not a one time accurance.
One time occurrence? Ha not quite. The time I went there I saw 3 between the way there and back.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on April 06, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
Wow.
So we're driving up to sedona today.
What should b my GPS address?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yslkwd on April 16, 2015, 11:45:59 AM
sorry a little late to help you but i would do airport mesa which is a nice viewpoint and you pass through everything on the way there
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on April 16, 2015, 04:05:50 PM
Thanks! Thata a good piece of advice. I do recall reading on the thread that someone got a ticket. I guess it's not a one time accurance.
read it again
the officer OFFERED me a ticket
i went with option #2. making me feel bad in front of my son for speeding
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yslkwd on April 16, 2015, 06:22:54 PM
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8700/16981774718_5c03e1df51_b.jpg)
Lake Powell antelope canyon
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lake powell overlook
[url=https://flic.kr/p/rSAFwA](https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7681/16981510778_b44f5368da_b.jpg) sedona
[url=https://flic.kr/p/rSBTbs](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8734/16981745090_781bfa71a1_b.jpg) red rocks at sunset from airport mesa
[url=https://flic.kr/p/s7UzLW](https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8708/17143434386_dc951f471a_b.jpg) grand canyon near sunset
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We first went to Sedona, then grand canyon and hiked the s kibab trail till the ooh ah point then went to Bryce canyon and stopped briefly at zion as well on the way back. Then we stopped in Lake Powell. Bryce canyon is stunning and worth the 4.5 hour drive from the grand canyon (see pics in Utah thread) .   (https://flic.kr/p/rSC2Zh)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: davidd75 on April 21, 2015, 04:39:44 PM
when we stay in hotels we prefer nice nature views away from the city life
whats the most scenic starwood hotel in Phoenix, scottsdate, tempe area?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: davidd75 on April 22, 2015, 09:45:27 AM
can anybody familiar with the area recommend the nicest scenic starwood hotel in Phoenix area?  looking for views of nature, mountains etc....
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on April 22, 2015, 10:47:43 AM
can anybody familiar with the area recommend the nicest scenic starwood hotel in Phoenix area?  looking for views of nature, mountains etc....
Here are several options:
1) The Phoenician
2) The Westin Kierland
3) Sheraton Desert Oasis
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: davidd75 on April 22, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
Here are several options:
1) The Phoenician
2) The Westin Kierland
3) Sheraton Desert Oasis

any personal experience?  which one do you find the nicest?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on April 22, 2015, 02:59:09 PM
any personal experience?  which one do you find the nicest?
No personal experience.
The Phoenician is most expensive/prestigious..
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 22, 2015, 03:10:36 PM
any personal experience?  which one do you find the nicest?
When I looked into it I felt the Phonecian was the nicest by far. It's also a real experience as its a world renowned resort. The others you can find anywhere.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on April 22, 2015, 10:51:13 PM
any personal experience?  which one do you find the nicest?
I just got back from the Phoenician they upgraded me to a Phoenician suite, rooms were beautiful double balcony overlooking the resort center of the hotel right next door to the restaurant, great pools very pretty/scenic grounds to go strolling etc, would definitely go back
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 23, 2015, 08:11:13 AM
I just got back from the Phoenician they upgraded me to a Phoenician suite, rooms were beautiful double balcony overlooking the resort center of the hotel right next door to the restaurant, great pools very pretty/scenic grounds to go strolling etc, would definitely go back
What did you do to get the upgrade?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on April 23, 2015, 11:37:12 AM
What did you do to get the upgrade?
gold status/honeymoon, called the hotel in advance to request an upgrade
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 23, 2015, 12:47:20 PM
gold status/honeymoon, called the hotel in advance to request an upgrade
Isn't gold status what everyone gets with SPG card?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BarryLincoln on April 23, 2015, 12:49:45 PM
Isn't gold status what everyone gets with SPG card?

After spending $30k in a year, you get Gold for next year.  Or it comes included with the Amex Platinum.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mommy of two on April 28, 2015, 05:35:30 PM
was no one able to figure out the minyan situation on this trip? i really would love to go in May or early june with hubby and baby, but that might be breaker for us :( i see the yeshiva has all minyanim, but wont work for mincha as thats in middle of the day. any suggestions?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on April 28, 2015, 05:42:37 PM
was no one able to figure out the minyan situation on this trip? i really would love to go in May or early june with hubby and baby, but that might be breaker for us :( i see the yeshiva has all minyanim, but wont work for mincha as thats in middle of the day. any suggestions?

http://www.ahavastorah.org/davening-schedule.html (http://www.ahavastorah.org/davening-schedule.html)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mommy of two on April 28, 2015, 06:14:35 PM
http://www.ahavastorah.org/davening-schedule.html (http://www.ahavastorah.org/davening-schedule.html)

yes that is where i saw their schedule, but if your going to the grand canyon it seems to me you cant make it back in time for mincha at 1:30, so my question still stands. any shuls that have mincha right before maariv?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on April 28, 2015, 06:19:15 PM
yes that is where i saw their schedule, but if your going to the grand canyon it seems to me you cant make it back in time for mincha at 1:30, so my question still stands. any shuls that have mincha right before maariv?
There are a bunch of minyanim in the Phoenix area, though I don't remember details. Are you referring to a regular weekday?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: alpicone on April 28, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
yes that is where i saw their schedule, but if your going to the grand canyon it seems to me you cant make it back in time for mincha at 1:30, so my question still stands. any shuls that have mincha right before maariv?

From the link I posted:

Mincha/Maariv
 
Weekdays
            20 minutes before Shkia/Sunse

Click Link For Exact Times and Schedule (http://images.shulcloud.com/68/uploads/PDFs/at-schedule-5775.pdf)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mommy of two on April 28, 2015, 07:21:27 PM
thanks alpicone, dont know how i didnt see that!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on April 30, 2015, 01:20:25 PM
There are a bunch of minyanim in the Phoenix area, though I don't remember details. Are you referring to a regular weekday?
there are some shuls in phoenix
when i went to the GC, i literally made it back to mincha in phoenix right on time for mincha
and that was in january so mincha was early
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: maxie m on May 03, 2015, 02:47:07 PM
thanks alpicone, dont know how i didnt see that!
chabad of Phoenix also has mincha before shkia
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on June 07, 2015, 07:50:56 PM
Anyone here been to the upper antelope canyon or the lower antelope canyon? What are the differences? Are there better and worse tour guides or are they all the same?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on June 07, 2015, 07:52:39 PM
Anyone here been to the upper antelope canyon or the lower antelope canyon? What are the differences? Are there better and worse tour guides or are they all the same?
Never there but heard lots from others. One of them is nicer and [therefore] more crowded (I believe the upper). As for tour guides TripAdvisor is the way to go.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Smartypantz on June 21, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
Anyone know of a shacharis minyan later than 630am near phoenix or Scottsdale?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on June 21, 2015, 06:34:58 PM
The yeshiva high school when in session
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on June 21, 2015, 06:53:16 PM
Anyone know of a shacharis minyan later than 630am near phoenix or Scottsdale?
Cong. Bais Menachem Shachris every day @7
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Smartypantz on June 21, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Cong. Bais Menachem Shachris every day @7
thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 27, 2015, 12:19:44 PM
Can anyone with experience chime in on bearizona and out of Africa? Are they worthwhile?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chdayshc on August 09, 2015, 07:56:34 PM
Is it better to fly into phoenix or flagstaff? Car rentals cheaper in any of them? Thank you all
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on August 09, 2015, 08:42:47 PM
Phx car rentals charge a lot tax
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chdayshc on August 09, 2015, 08:50:28 PM
Any other reason that one is better over the other?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 09, 2015, 08:59:42 PM
I just rented from PHX - National Executive using one of the codes and got an awesome deal. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chdayshc on August 10, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
Is there any reason not to fly to flagstaff directly? Anything special Phx? It looks like Grand Canyon and Sedona are closer to flagstaff. I'm just wondering if I'll be missing something if I do that.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 10, 2015, 12:20:59 AM
Is there any reason not to fly to flagstaff directly? Anything special Phx? It looks like Grand Canyon and Sedona are closer to flagstaff. I'm just wondering if I'll be missing something if I do that.

Grand Canyon and Sedona are both closer to Flagstaff than Phoenix.  We only flew into Phoenix because the flight times worked out and we were able to get direct flights.  Also, not sure if this is important, but there are kosher stores and restaurants in Phoenix and Scottsdale, whereas in Flagstaff there are none.  There is Chabad in Flagstaff but I personally would not rely on them.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Aj3042 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
Is there any reason not to fly to flagstaff directly? Anything special Phx? It looks like Grand Canyon and Sedona are closer to flagstaff. I'm just wondering if I'll be missing something if I do that.
If you're flying on miles PHX is way easier than these small airports. If you're booking with cash and you don't need to buy food it makes much more sense to fly to one of those you mentioned.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on August 10, 2015, 12:31:25 AM
Grand Canyon and Sedona are both closer to Flagstaff than Phoenix.  We only flew into Phoenix because the flight times worked out and we were able to get direct flights.  Also, not sure if this is important, but there are kosher stores and restaurants in Phoenix and Scottsdale, whereas in Flagstaff there are none.  There is Chabad in Flagstaff but I personally would not rely on them.
I know the chabad shliach in flagstaff personally very nice guy. Not much he really can do for you in regards to food. I believe he drives to Phoenix himself for food.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chdayshc on August 10, 2015, 12:33:57 AM

I just rented from PHX - National Executive using one of the codes and got an awesome deal.
. Can you share what codes you used? Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chdayshc on August 10, 2015, 12:57:49 AM
 Any nice hotels in the flagstaff or Sedona area? Any villas with private pools?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: A3 on August 30, 2015, 07:45:23 PM
Shabbas take out.....

Challahs... the works...

Where and what time do they close?

Landing in PHX at ~ 9:14am going to be in Scottsdale for Shabbas IMYH

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 30, 2015, 07:52:24 PM
Shabbas take out.....

Challahs... the works...

Where and what time do they close?

Landing in PHX at ~ 9:14am going to be in Scottsdale for Shabbas IMYH

http://www.thekitchen18.com/

We very much enjoyed this restaurant.  They have a Shabbos take out menu.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on October 18, 2015, 01:40:19 PM
http://www.thekitchen18.com/

We very much enjoyed this restaurant.  They have a Shabbos take out menu.

Going next week- any recommendations?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on October 18, 2015, 03:39:03 PM
Going next week- any recommendations?

I had a burger there and it was phenomenal.  When I commented on how good it was I was told that it was grass fed beef which made a big difference.  The kids had chicken strips with fries and liked it.  DW had two different kinds of wraps (chicken and meat) which she also liked.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on October 18, 2015, 06:14:39 PM
I had a burger there and it was phenomenal.  When I commented on how good it was I was told that it was grass fed beef which made a big difference.  The kids had chicken strips with fries and liked it.  DW had two different kinds of wraps (chicken and meat) which she also liked.
How new is this place? I don't recall it being open in the summer when I was there...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on October 18, 2015, 06:35:33 PM
How new is this place? I don't recall it being open in the summer when I was there...

I don't know how long it has been open but it was open for at least 3 years.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on October 18, 2015, 07:17:53 PM
I don't know how long it has been open but it was open for at least 3 years.
Oh what a shame.... I would deffinetly have checked it out.... What hashgacha is it under, the vaad?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on October 18, 2015, 07:19:05 PM
Oh what a shame.... I would deffinetly have checked it out.... What hashgacha is it under, the vaad?

Chabad of Scottsdale.  I met the Chabad Rabbi who gives the hashgacha this summer.  He happened to be there during one of our visits.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on October 18, 2015, 08:30:46 PM
Chabad of Scottsdale.  I met the Chabad Rabbi who gives the hashgacha this summer.  He happened to be there during one of our visits.
Is that considered to be on par with the vaad?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on October 18, 2015, 08:49:00 PM
Is that considered to be on par with the vaad?

The Chabad is stricter because of Pas and Chalav Israel (although I definitely eat the Vaad).  There is also a dairy restaurant (can't remember the name) in Scottsdale now under the Vaad instead of Chabad because they wanted to add in Chalav Stam items.  Also an awesome Asian vegan restaurant called Fresh Mint under the Vaad and they delivered to our hotel through the Eat24 app (it felt like getting room service). ;)  You can search all these restaurants on Shamash.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on October 19, 2015, 02:01:24 PM
The Chabad is stricter because of Pas and Chalav Israel (although I definitely eat the Vaad).  There is also a dairy restaurant (can't remember the name) in Scottsdale now under the Vaad instead of Chabad because they wanted to add in Chalav Stam items.  Also an awesome Asian vegan restaurant called Fresh Mint under the Vaad and they delivered to our hotel through the Eat24 app (it felt like getting room service). ;)  You can search all these restaurants on Shamash.

Mozart Cafe, decent place which btw is right next door to Paprika. Both of which are a 5 minute Uber from the Hyatt. Or 20 minute scenic walk.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on December 15, 2015, 11:31:28 AM
We've been to Scottsdale before for a short trip, a very nice SPG hotel. Visited Sedona at that time. There was food around. There was a shul 1.5 miles away (Rabbi Shoshan?). So my question is, if we want to go to that area again with the following, what is recommended? Need a shul, hopefully closer for Shabbos. Need food, restaurants (?), food for Shabbos, maybe Shabbos friendly hotel. Have two free Marriot category 4 and one free Marriot category 5 (I don't see anything that's really nice on those categories). Have AA mileage, some Avios as well. Any help on the above would be appreciated. This is for mid winter - end of Jan to beginning Feb, 6 days. Thanks
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on December 15, 2015, 12:47:56 PM
We've been to Scottsdale before for a short trip, a very nice SPG hotel. Visited Sedona at that time. There was food around. There was a shul 1.5 miles away (Rabbi Shoshan?). So my question is, if we want to go to that area again with the following, what is recommended? Need a shul, hopefully closer for Shabbos. Need food, restaurants (?), food for Shabbos, maybe Shabbos friendly hotel. Have two free Marriot category 4 and one free Marriot category 5 (I don't see anything that's really nice on those categories). Have AA mileage, some Avios as well. Any help on the above would be appreciated. This is for mid winter - end of Jan to beginning Feb, 6 days. Thanks

I would suggest that you contact Chabad of Scottsdale - http://www.chabadofscottsdale.org/

There are a few hotels right near the shul and Kitchen 18 where you can order food for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on December 15, 2015, 01:47:53 PM
I would suggest that you contact Chabad of Scottsdale - http://www.chabadofscottsdale.org/

There are a few hotels right near the shul and Kitchen 18 where you can order food for Shabbos.
Great. Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on December 24, 2015, 05:07:17 PM
Finally went through all the posts as quickly as possible. Going to Scottsdale IYH end of January to beginning Feb to Kierland villas. Been there once before, used mileage (60,000 6 nights). They don't do upgrades in the villas but they're nice. Shabbos will have to walk to Scottsdale center to daven about mile - mile and a half? Seems like plenty of food around. Will try to do some of what I read through like Sedona (second time). It was awesome last time. Saw a couple of other things we'll try. Paid for AA tickets cause it wasn't worth the points (as per my dansdeals inquiry, thanks). Any updates on places, food, etc., please write. Thank you all for the advice. Great group!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on December 25, 2015, 12:14:53 AM
Finally went through all the posts as quickly as possible. Going to Scottsdale IYH end of January to beginning Feb to Kierland villas. Been there once before, used mileage (60,000 6 nights). They don't do upgrades in the villas but they're nice. Shabbos will have to walk to Scottsdale center to daven about mile - mile and a half? Seems like plenty of food around. Will try to do some of what I read through like Sedona (second time). It was awesome last time. Saw a couple of other things we'll try. Paid for AA tickets cause it wasn't worth the points (as per my dansdeals inquiry, thanks). Any updates on places, food, etc., please write. Thank you all for the advice. Great group!

I've stayed there and the villas are also nice because they have kitchenettes to help store and heat food.  My sons tried out the Waverider surfing machine at the main pool and had fun...Also Fresh Mint restaurant will deliver there and you can eat by the pool!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on December 25, 2015, 10:48:27 AM
I've stayed there and the villas are also nice because they have kitchenettes to help store and heat food.  My sons tried out the Waverider surfing machine at the main pool and had fun...Also Fresh Mint restaurant will deliver there and you can eat by the pool!
thx
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: abe2 on January 09, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
Hi,

What are the best food places in Phoenix/Scottsdale? 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on January 09, 2016, 11:25:31 PM
Hi,

What are the best food places in Phoenix/Scottsdale?

We really enjoyed this restaurant in Scottsdale:

http://www.thekitchen18.com/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 10, 2016, 03:21:44 PM
Okay, leaving in a couple of weeks mid winter, arriving Wednesday evening returning Tuesday, Scottsdale. Besides Sedonna, which we plan on doing the jeep ride, any other recommendations for a couple with no children? Also, any updates on food besides kitchen 18 and segals? Milchig? Shabbos food for our villa? (We feel the 2 hr trip to Sedonna is enough, we've done the canyon before so don't plan on that this time). Any ideas would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on January 10, 2016, 04:22:28 PM
Okay, leaving in a couple of weeks mid winter, arriving Wednesday evening returning Tuesday, Scottsdale. Besides Sedonna, which we plan on doing the jeep ride, any other recommendations for a couple with no children? Also, any updates on food besides kitchen 18 and segals? Milchig? Shabbos food for our villa? (We feel the 2 hr trip to Sedonna is enough, we've done the canyon before so don't plan on that this time). Any ideas would be appreciated.

There are many options in Arizona but it depends on how far you are willing to drive around.  This past summer we went to Sedona, Grand Canyon, Wupatki National Monument, Sunset Crater National Monument and  Petrified Forest National Park.  Last year we stopped by Meteor Crater.  Do a search for national monuments/parks in Arizona and you will find plenty of stuff to do.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 10, 2016, 09:11:11 PM
There are many options in Arizona but it depends on how far you are willing to drive around.  This past summer we went to Sedona, Grand Canyon, Wupatki National Monument, Sunset Crater National Monument and  Petrified Forest National Park.  Last year we stopped by Meteor Crater.  Do a search for national monuments/parks in Arizona and you will find plenty of stuff to do.
I think we made a big mistake. We just checked the weather the week we're going and it's pretty bad, especially Sedona. The tickets cost us 250 and the fee to change it is 200! Mistake not checking the weather.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on January 10, 2016, 09:24:08 PM
I think we made a big mistake. We just checked the weather the week we're going and it's pretty bad, especially Sedona. The tickets cost us 250 and the fee to change it is 200! Mistake not checking the weather.

Arizona is a big state.  If the weather isn't to your liking in one area just drive over to another.  Also, if there are storms by the Grand Canyon, it may make for some dramatic photographs.  I was able to get some really nice photos of the Grand Canyon due to storms.  Here is a link to my trip report:

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=54632.0
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: cfbrown on January 10, 2016, 09:36:38 PM
I think we made a big mistake. We just checked the weather the week we're going and it's pretty bad, especially Sedona. The tickets cost us 250 and the fee to change it is 200! Mistake not checking the weather.

Stay in Phoenix and hike. Superstitions for example. Just google Peralta Trail under Google Images.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 10, 2016, 11:12:11 PM
Thank you both. I'll look for some not too difficult trails. I don't think we want to drive 4 hrs each way to the canyon. We were thinking Sedona but it's going to be in the 40's! At least it says 60's for Scottsdale, but rain! Oh well. I sent an email to AA to see if they'll have some rachmonus (maybe Lifetime Gold is worth a little something???), but I doubt it. Thanks again. Any more ideas about what to do arounf the Scottsdale area would be appreciated (1/27-2/2). I'm starting to think of possibly losing the $400?? At least I can get the mileage back from the Kierland Villas.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 10, 2016, 11:15:58 PM
Thank you both. I'll look for some not too difficult trails. I don't think we want to drive 4 hrs each way to the canyon. We were thinking Sedona but it's going to be in the 40's! At least it says 60's for Scottsdale, but rain! Oh well. I sent an email to AA to see if they'll have some rachmonus (maybe Lifetime Gold is worth a little something???), but I doubt it. Thanks again. Any more ideas about what to do arounf the Scottsdale area would be appreciated (1/27-2/2). I'm starting to think of possibly losing the $400?? At least I can get the mileage back from the Kierland Villas.

Don't cancel a trip because a weather report two weeks out!  IF it looks bad a day before then maybe cancel but I go there almost every winter and have never had a consecutive week of rain so even if it does look a little bad I'd still chance it because they have such little total rain there.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 10, 2016, 11:28:55 PM
Don't cancel a trip because a weather report two weeks out!  IF it looks bad a day before then maybe cancel but I go there almost every winter and have never had a consecutive week of rain so even if it does look a little bad I'd still chance it because they have such little total rain there.
So if you're there every winter what do you recommend we do while we're there (Scottsdale)? Last time we did the Sedona jeep but isn't the 40's too cold for that? Maybe you have ideas since you're there so often at this time. Appreciate it. Oh, and we're not youngsters so not interested in amusement park type activities. The jeep was great. We did Segways last time there (number of years ago). TIA.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 10, 2016, 11:40:36 PM
So if you're there every winter what do you recommend we do while we're there (Scottsdale)? Last time we did the Sedona jeep but isn't the 40's too cold for that? Maybe you have ideas since you're there so often at this time. Appreciate it. Oh, and we're not youngsters so not interested in amusement park type activities. The jeep was great. We did Segways last time there (number of years ago). TIA.

I'm different in that we do have young kids plus I'm one of those rare DDFers that doesn't like a "busy" vacation and since Denver has exactly two kosher restaurants, this is what we do: take a super cheap short flight and then basically just sit at the pool and enjoy the warm weather and all the good kosher restaurants.  La Bella Pizza and Mexican food is awesome (it's near Segal's).  I wasn't interested but other family members did a hot air balloon ride and said it was awesome.  Sorry this probably wasn't so helpful! ;)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 10, 2016, 11:42:31 PM
I'm different in that we do have young kids plus I'm one of those rare DDFers that doesn't like a "busy" vacation and since Denver has exactly two kosher restaurants, this is what we do: take a super cheap short flight and then basically just sit at the pool and enjoy the warm weather and all the good kosher restaurants.  La Bella Pizza and Mexican food is awesome (it's near Segal's).  I wasn't interested but other family members did a hot air balloon ride and said it was awesome.  Sorry this probably wasn't so helpful! ;)
I appreciate it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on January 11, 2016, 10:14:09 AM
Thank you both. I'll look for some not too difficult trails. I don't think we want to drive 4 hrs each way to the canyon. We were thinking Sedona but it's going to be in the 40's! At least it says 60's for Scottsdale, but rain! Oh well. I sent an email to AA to see if they'll have some rachmonus (maybe Lifetime Gold is worth a little something???), but I doubt it. Thanks again. Any more ideas about what to do arounf the Scottsdale area would be appreciated (1/27-2/2). I'm starting to think of possibly losing the $400?? At least I can get the mileage back from the Kierland Villas.
The longest it rains is usually 2 days and not 24/7.
Depending on what you like, there are museums, hiking trails, golf courses, driving ranges, casinos, shopping, etc.
Sedona weather is definitely brisk, bring a jacket, go between 12-3, and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 11, 2016, 02:08:41 PM
The longest it rains is usually 2 days and not 24/7.
Depending on what you like, there are museums, hiking trails, golf courses, driving ranges, casinos, shopping, etc.
Sedona weather is definitely brisk, bring a jacket, go between 12-3, and you'll be fine.
Great. Thanks. You folks are making us feel better about this trip.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 11, 2016, 02:17:09 PM
We've been to Scottsdale before for a short trip, a very nice SPG hotel. Visited Sedona at that time. There was food around. There was a shul 1.5 miles away (Rabbi Shoshan?). So my question is, if we want to go to that area again with the following, what is recommended? Need a shul, hopefully closer for Shabbos. Need food, restaurants (?), food for Shabbos, maybe Shabbos friendly hotel. Have two free Marriot category 4 and one free Marriot category 5 (I don't see anything that's really nice on those categories). Have AA mileage, some Avios as well. Any help on the above would be appreciated. This is for mid winter - end of Jan to beginning Feb, 6 days. Thanks

He's the man. And my bro in law is also involved with that shul.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 11, 2016, 10:38:24 PM
He's the man. And my bro in law is also involved with that shul.
I met Rabbi Shoshan last time we went (a number of years ago. I understand the shul is somewhere else now. Seems further from the Westin Keirland Villas). Saw him this year at Agudah Convention, spoke well.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 24, 2016, 07:08:25 PM
Any final ideas/places in or near Scottsdale? We're heading on Wednesday evening IYH. Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 26, 2016, 12:32:27 AM
Any final ideas/places in or near Scottsdale? We're heading on Wednesday evening IYH. Thanks.

Just checked and weather looks gorgeous this week...aren't you glad you didn't cancel! ;)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 26, 2016, 10:33:48 AM
Just checked and weather looks gorgeous this week...aren't you glad you didn't cancel! ;)
Yep. Thanks. Nights are cold, but that's the dessert. We'll probably try Sedona even if it's cold. Seems that this something 18 place and Segals are the places to eat. They deliver? Probably not open late. Will try to check online but real busy before we leave. Thanks all for advice.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 26, 2016, 10:52:56 AM
Yep. Thanks. Nights are cold, but that's the dessert. We'll probably try Sedona even if it's cold. Seems that this something 18 place and Segals are the places to eat. They deliver? Probably not open late. Will try to check online but real busy before we leave. Thanks all for advice.

Fresh Mint definitely deliver although it's vegetarian we still loved all the unique Asian food.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 26, 2016, 03:20:45 PM
Fresh Mint definitely deliver although it's vegetarian we still loved all the unique Asian food.
Thanks. You say vegetarian and then Asian. Is it in any way similar to a dairy restaurant? Or just strange foods?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 27, 2016, 12:42:28 AM
Thanks. You say vegetarian and then Asian. Is it in any way similar to a dairy restaurant? Or just strange foods?

It's a vegan Asian restaurant that I guess the non-Jewish owners realized they could get more business by getting hashgacha.  Even my meat eater family loves the food (especially the Pad Thai and curry).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 27, 2016, 09:17:34 AM
Any final ideas/places in or near Scottsdale? We're heading on Wednesday evening IYH. Thanks.
If you can spare hyatt nights or UR/hyatt points I would really recommend staying at the hyatt regency scottsdale resort & spa at gainey ranch for a night or more. It's a category 5 so it's 20k a night or 10k+$125 c+p. Nice hotel and absolutely beautiful grounds and huge pool area. What we loved most was they have separate pools for people with and without loud kids :). They also had a spa that I think I had free access to as a Plat, so hot tub/sauna/20 head shower type of deal, we used it to take a pre-shab shower after checking out on a Friday and spending shab elsewhere. It's also a 5 minute/$5 uber (or 20 minute beautiful walk) to paprika and mozart so you got your dairy lunch and fleish dinner option - both are ok for ex-NY.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 27, 2016, 12:14:11 PM
If you can spare hyatt nights or UR/hyatt points I would really recommend staying at the hyatt regency scottsdale resort & spa at gainey ranch for a night or more. It's a category 5 so it's 20k a night or 10k+$125 c+p. Nice hotel and absolutely beautiful grounds and huge pool area. What we loved most was they have separate pools for people with and without loud kids :). They also had a spa that I think I had free access to as a Plat, so hot tub/sauna/20 head shower type of deal, we used it to take a pre-shab shower after checking out on a Friday and spending shab elsewhere. It's also a 5 minute/$5 uber (or 20 minute beautiful walk) to paprika and mozart so you got your dairy lunch and fleish dinner option - both are ok for ex-NY.
HOLD ON a minute! First, I don't have any points with Hyatt, just SPG and Marriot. Just used SPG for our stay at the Westin, which is also very nice. The thing I saw you say - something about Mozart and Paprika - we talking Scottsdale area??? Didn't see anything about these places anywhere. As I have to go to airport soon, please let me know. Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 27, 2016, 12:15:58 PM
HOLD ON a minute! First, I don't have any points with Hyatt, just SPG and Marriot. Just used SPG for our stay at the Westin, which is also very nice. The thing I saw you say - something about Mozart and Paprika - we talking Scottsdale area??? Didn't see anything about these places anywhere. As I have to go to airport soon, please let me know. Thanks.
lol yes, Scottsdale.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 27, 2016, 01:15:55 PM
lol yes, Scottsdale.
YO! How come no one mentioned these places. Whose hechsher? Both in same building? Thanks so much
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on January 27, 2016, 05:27:59 PM
YO! How come no one mentioned these places. Whose hechsher? Both in same building? Thanks so much
Right next door to e/o. Take a look at google maps. You can google the hechsher too I assume GIYF!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 28, 2016, 10:38:55 AM
Right next door to e/o. Take a look at google maps. You can google the hechsher too I assume GIYF!
went to Shul. Guy said Mozart is closed. Called. No answer. Any other place u know for breakfast?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 28, 2016, 10:39:35 AM
Can u also message me. So I'll know I got message. Difficult using the phone
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 28, 2016, 11:02:27 AM
Anyone know where to get all our stuff for Shabbos meals like wine, food and groceries? We are at the Weston villas in Scottsdale. TIA.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 29, 2016, 02:25:43 AM
Anyone know where to get all our stuff for Shabbos meals like wine, food and groceries? We are at the Weston villas in Scottsdale. TIA.

If you don't want to go all the way down to Segals, there is a Kroger's grocery (I believe it's a Fry's) that has a kosher section and you can get all that stuff on Cactus and Tatum. There is also a Trader Joes very close by that has Challah, kosher meat and boxes of kosher grape juice that we use for kiddush when traveling.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Elgnt on February 02, 2016, 11:48:17 AM
Hows the westin?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on February 02, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
Hows the westin?

I've been there already 3 or 4 times and it's one of my favorite places for an easy, low-stress getaway with the family.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on February 03, 2016, 10:44:17 AM
Hows the westin?
I've been there already 3 or 4 times and it's one of my favorite places for an easy, low-stress getaway with the family.
Ok. We are back. When you say the Westin realize that there is the hotel and then the villas. We stayed at the villas, used the spa at the hotel. When you use the villas you are able to use the hotel facilities as well. Based on info found in this chat I emailed as well as called the westin before we left ny and requested a better room. SPG Gold doesn't get any privileges at the Villas, maybe because it's a time share facility. Nevertheless, they gave me the room we requested. They were extremely nice. We stayed 6 nights, relaxed and did little else, so this is not quite a TR you would expect. The villa has a kitchen, living room and bedroom. Has a balcony. Other than that, no windows, which, honestly, we didn't even realize till we were there a while. You open the porch door and that's fine. As expected, facing the golf course, it was very quiet. In reality, the entire Villa grounds were nice and quiet. When we arrived we were quite thirsty and the person behind the desk got us 6 small waters so we didn't have to run out. We got 500 SPG points for each day we didn't use cleaning. (It hasn't posted to my account yet, have a call in), Food - We went to Segals a couple of times. Food was good. Service a little lacking as far as speed, but nice staff. Had your standard chicken dishes. No dessert. Went to La Bella for pizza motzei Shabbos. Large selection. Very good. We went to Manhatten pizza for breakfast. Run down, small, not too appetizing a place, but the food was actually good. All other breakfasts we ate at the JCC in Scottsdale. We went to Kitchen 18 Sunday night and couldn't get in - 45 minute wait. That's when we hit Segal the second time. Kitchen 18 folks said they're breaking records on attendance. We ate there Monday night and the food is quite good, staff very friendly (not so friendly Sunday night, but they were overwhelmed). Now Shabbos. We first checked Kitchen 18 food. It was like going to a restaurant and picking out some dishes. We wanted "Shabbos" food. Saw segal had package deals (definitely not a package of what we wanted). They said no cholent. We went to Imperial. No cholent unless you order 3 pounds minimum? That'll never fly in Flatbush! Anyway, in Imperial you saw everything in front of you and picked what you wanted. No liver, except frozen Meal Mart. We bought our stuff there. We were totally not impressed with the food. Very unhappy. The chopped liver was sawdust. Shabbos - We walked to the Torah Center (Rabbi Shoshan). Last time we went to Scottsdale, 5 years ago, it took around 25 minutes to get there. It seems they moved. Instead of googles 45 minutes, it took us an hour walking slower. Never again. That's just because I can't do the walk. We met another couple, same issue. The shul is very nice to go to though. We did very little. We did do the wild west jeep ride, we thought a very good trip. Very educational. We did one day at the spa. Other than that we just relaxed. The weather, until Monday night, was beautiful Cold in the morning and beautiful the rest of the day. As an aside, we used AA for the trip JFK-PHX and the entire staff on both sides were overly pleasant to deal with and things moved very fast. The steward/stewardesses were just okay. Sorry about very little detail but we really went to just relax. We picked this instead of florida because every one else went there! We recommend the trip, but be careful about where the shul is for Shabbos. (We bought tape for the door and refridgerator for Shabbos and it worked fine.)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on February 03, 2016, 12:45:06 PM
Nice TR - especially helpful info about the hotel and food situations. And Mutty, Scottsdale ain't Flatbush!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on February 03, 2016, 01:09:34 PM
Nice TR - especially helpful info about the hotel and food situations. And Mutty, Scottsdale ain't Flatbush!
There are people in the universe that go without cholent?!
BTW, speaking of it's not Flatbush. I couldn't believe how nice and friendly people were out there. Every single person you pass says hello with a smile. Very different than some other places I know.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on February 03, 2016, 01:29:50 PM
There are people in the universe that go without cholent?!
BTW, speaking of it's not Flatbush. I couldn't believe how nice and friendly people were out there. Every single person you pass says hello with a smile. Very different than some other places I know.
True that!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on February 09, 2016, 10:06:50 AM
are there any points hotels closer to shul?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on February 09, 2016, 01:07:47 PM
are there any points hotels closer to shul?
Yes. There's a Marriot properety (I think Fairmont or something like that) next door. Go to the Scottsdale Torah Center (Rabbi Shoshan, Rav) site. They have all the info there for food, hotels, etc.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on February 09, 2016, 04:46:11 PM
thx. which airport would i fly into?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on February 09, 2016, 06:57:54 PM
thx. which airport would i fly into?

PHX
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 19, 2016, 11:51:54 PM
Looking to go to phoenix in 2 weekends.  Have Marriott, SPG, ad Hyatt points.  It seems like Hyatt Regency and Phoenician are of the best ones to go to on points.  Which is better for a weekend getaway for anniversary. TIA
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on March 20, 2016, 01:00:10 AM
Looking to go to phoenix in 2 weekends.  Have Marriott, SPG, ad Hyatt points.  It seems like Hyatt Regency and Phoenician are of the best ones to go to on points.  Which is better for a weekend getaway for anniversary. TIA
I would recommend the Phoenician
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on March 21, 2016, 01:25:32 PM
I would recommend the Phoenician
Me too. Beautiful hotel.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on March 21, 2016, 01:25:58 PM
and Happy Anniversary!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 21, 2016, 11:40:10 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 25, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
Since I waited to book I basically got priced out of the phoenician each room is now 26,750 points a night.  What would be next best place to stay?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 25, 2016, 01:18:06 PM
Since I waited to book I basically got priced out of the phoenician each room is now 26,750 points a night.  What would be next best place to stay?

Maybe Westin Kierland Villas.  I love that place.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 25, 2016, 01:31:12 PM
booked unfortunately. Any others?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 26, 2016, 10:37:31 PM
booked unfortunately. Any others?

Do you have HHonors nights?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on March 26, 2016, 11:51:35 PM
booked unfortunately. Any others?
Hyatt Regency?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 27, 2016, 04:33:18 PM
Thanka. Was able to book at phoenician for the last 2 nights. Im still looking for availability for my first night there. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on March 27, 2016, 04:55:27 PM
looking to book a trip end of june, but looking at average weather it shows high of 103/104. People talk about dry heat being better (whatever that means) but is it bearable to go to the grand canyon in June with kids or just crazy torture?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 27, 2016, 06:28:02 PM
Is it worth shlepping food from Pom or should I just buy while I'm there.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E R K on March 27, 2016, 06:30:26 PM
looking to book a trip end of june, but looking at average weather it shows high of 103/104. People talk about dry heat being better (whatever that means) but is it bearable to go to the grand canyon in June with kids or just crazy torture?
Went to Grsnd Canyon in July and it was 113. No kids but Very Hot! I'm sure with kids they'd kvetch a lot.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 28, 2016, 04:48:46 PM
Is it worth shlepping food from Pom or should I just buy while I'm there.

Absolutely not!!  Tons of awesome restaurants there.  At least 5-6.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 28, 2016, 05:35:38 PM
Thanks! I was thinking if it is worth going to Sedona at all. I arrive on Thursday at around 3pm and leave Sunday morning.  Should I just relax around the area and hotel or go somewhere thursday and spend Shabbat in Scottsdale.  To be honest I just wanted a nice getaway for a weekend and after reading more about Phoenix I saw how much I was missing out on.

Any advice?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on March 28, 2016, 05:52:27 PM
Thanks! I was thinking if it is worth going to Sedona at all. I arrive on Thursday at around 3pm and leave Sunday morning.  Should I just relax around the area and hotel or go somewhere thursday and spend Shabbat in Scottsdale.  To be honest I just wanted a nice getaway for a weekend and after reading more about Phoenix I saw how much I was missing out on.

Any advice?

If your purpose is to relax, I'd skip the hours on the road to Sedona. Phoenix/Scottsdale is a great place to chill.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 28, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
If your purpose is to relax, I'd skip the hours on the road to Sedona. Phoenix/Scottsdale is a great place to chill.

+100. Relax and enjoy!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 28, 2016, 11:31:52 PM
Thanks for the advice. I am officially booked at the Phoenician from Thur-Sunday ;D First trip without the baby (over 2 yrs old) so I think the relaxing route will be more appreciated by my wife.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 29, 2016, 06:32:52 PM
Is it worth renting a car or should I use an Uber to get around?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 29, 2016, 09:39:36 PM
Is it worth renting a car or should I use an Uber to get around?

Scottsdale is far from the airport and the restaurants in Phoenix (although there are restaurants in Scottsdale too).  On our trip last month was the first time we didn't rent a car and only did Uber. It was way more convenient BUT we stayed in Central Phoenix and only went to the restaurants close by.  If you're just going to stay around your hotel it will probably about the same money and way more convenient not to rent a car.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on March 29, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
So basically if I plan on going to Segals or the Pizza place I am better of renting a car. Thanks
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 29, 2016, 11:53:02 PM
So basically if I plan on going to Segals or the Pizza place I am better of renting a car. Thanks

Yep exactly ;)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on March 30, 2016, 04:35:22 PM
Yep exactly ;)
I agree. Rent a car. If you have Costco membership try them. Even if you find a good price, after booking, keep trying. My price went down three times. And they were the cheapest.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: bigworld on March 31, 2016, 03:47:14 PM
Any one ever stay in vrbo type of place in Scottsdale or Phoenix that they recommend?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 31, 2016, 08:00:20 PM
Any one ever stay in vrbo type of place in Scottsdale or Phoenix that they recommend?

Not VRBO but rented tons of timeshares, which to me are the best of both worlds of the room of an apartment and amenities of a hotel.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: bigworld on April 01, 2016, 12:34:07 AM
Not VRBO but rented tons of timeshares, which to me are the best of both worlds of the room of an apartment and amenities of a hotel.
Was looking in particular for a place with a private pool-time share wont cut it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on April 01, 2016, 06:25:59 PM
Was looking in particular for a place with a private pool-time share wont cut it.

ah that makes sense...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on April 03, 2016, 03:14:24 AM
Scottsdale TR

While living in Silver Spring I was able to take advantage of all the direct flights going out of BWI from southwest.  Having a CP was amazing. Unfortunately, for the time being I moved to NY after school which has very few direct flights from southwest.  Zika narrowed down my options for a vacation spot as well.  However, I was able to find availability on the one daily direct flight from EWR to PHX on my anniversary weekend.  This made my decision a lot easier and I booked a flight from Thursday afternoon to Sunday morning.

After all the advice from DDFers I booked us a room at the Phoenician and rented a car from Fox.

The Phoenician is a really nice resort with a great staff.  It is also very well located.  However, I would like to point out that there is a resort fee ($30) and fee to self park ($12).  Tomorrow morning I will be looking to waive the resort fee and will update on the outcome. 

On Thursday my flight arrived around 3:30pm and we went straight to the hotel to check-in.  After walking around the hotel we decided to go to last chance.  Definitely recommend going.  If you sift through enough of their garbage patiently you will find amazing deals.  After last chance we went to Segals for dinner.  Have to say I was not so impressed.  I would probably go the chinese route next time instead of the short ribs. Fried wontons were okay. After dinner we went back to hang out at the resort and went to sleep.

On Friday I ended up waking up at around 6am due to the time difference with the east coast.  I called the concierge to see what I could do around the hotel and she recommended that I go on a hike of camelback mountain that was guided and left around 645.  The hike was actually amazing.  I never went to Hawaii and I am not such a big hiker, but I really thought it was a great experience (it was a also great weather for a hike).  The views on the summit were beautiful and you were able to get a nice 360 degree view of the PHX/Scottsdale area.  After the hike we went to pick up food at Imperial for Shabbat.  From there we went to Fresh Mint.  Have to say I am not a big vegetarian food type of guy so Ill leave a review for on that for someone else.  They did make a good limeade though.  After lunch we went to the hotel to hang out by the pool.  The pool area was amazing. They have many pools.  They even had one area with volleyball which was fun.  The pool area also had a water park type area for little kids.  This was actually the first trip we took without our 2 yr old, but there were so many activities for little kids around the hotel (feeding fish by pond, bubbles by the lawn, etc)

Saturday was relaxing.  The rooms have nice size balconies which allowed for us to make our Shabbat meals outdoors.  In the morning we walked around the hotel's cactus garden which was actually a decent size and pretty cool.  At night there was a movie showing for kids by the pool with glow in the dark tubes to hang out in the pool.  After the movie we went to Labella Pizzeria.  The calzones and pizza were actually very good and highly recommended.

Looking forward to coming back with my little son so that he can enjoy.  Hopefully next time I find the time to stay a little longer so that I can go to Sedona and GC.  However, if your looking for a place to just chill, Scottsdale alone will be enough to have a great time (at least if staying at Phoenician).

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on April 03, 2016, 11:27:39 PM
Scottsdale TR

While living in Silver Spring I was able to take advantage of all the direct flights going out of BWI from southwest.  Having a CP was amazing. Unfortunately, for the time being I moved to NY after school which has very few direct flights from southwest.  Zika narrowed down my options for a vacation spot as well.  However, I was able to find availability on the one daily direct flight from EWR to PHX on my anniversary weekend.  This made my decision a lot easier and I booked a flight from Thursday afternoon to Sunday morning.

After all the advice from DDFers I booked us a room at the Phoenician and rented a car from Fox.

The Phoenician is a really nice resort with a great staff.  It is also very well located.  However, I would like to point out that there is a resort fee ($30) and fee to self park ($12).  Tomorrow morning I will be looking to waive the resort fee and will update on the outcome. 

On Thursday my flight arrived around 3:30pm and we went straight to the hotel to check-in.  After walking around the hotel we decided to go to last chance.  Definitely recommend going.  If you sift through enough of their garbage patiently you will find amazing deals.  After last chance we went to Segals for dinner.  Have to say I was not so impressed.  I would probably go the chinese route next time instead of the short ribs. Fried wontons were okay. After dinner we went back to hang out at the resort and went to sleep.

On Friday I ended up waking up at around 6am due to the time difference with the east coast.  I called the concierge to see what I could do around the hotel and she recommended that I go on a hike of camelback mountain that was guided and left around 645.  The hike was actually amazing.  I never went to Hawaii and I am not such a big hiker, but I really thought it was a great experience (it was a also great weather for a hike).  The views on the summit were beautiful and you were able to get a nice 360 degree view of the PHX/Scottsdale area.  After the hike we went to pick up food at Imperial for Shabbat.  From there we went to Fresh Mint.  Have to say I am not a big vegetarian food type of guy so Ill leave a review for on that for someone else.  They did make a good limeade though.  After lunch we went to the hotel to hang out by the pool.  The pool area was amazing. They have many pools.  They even had one area with volleyball which was fun.  The pool area also had a water park type area for little kids.  This was actually the first trip we took without our 2 yr old, but there were so many activities for little kids around the hotel (feeding fish by pond, bubbles by the lawn, etc)

Saturday was relaxing.  The rooms have nice size balconies which allowed for us to make our Shabbat meals outdoors.  In the morning we walked around the hotel's cactus garden which was actually a decent size and pretty cool.  At night there was a movie showing for kids by the pool with glow in the dark tubes to hang out in the pool.  After the movie we went to Labella Pizzeria.  The calzones and pizza were actually very good and highly recommended.

Looking forward to coming back with my little son so that he can enjoy.  Hopefully next time I find the time to stay a little longer so that I can go to Sedona and GC.  However, if your looking for a place to just chill, Scottsdale alone will be enough to have a great time (at least if staying at Phoenician).

Sounds great and so glad it all worked out in the end!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 03, 2016, 11:48:37 PM
Scottsdale TR

While living in Silver Spring I was able to take advantage of all the direct flights going out of BWI from southwest.  Having a CP was amazing. Unfortunately, for the time being I moved to NY after school which has very few direct flights from southwest.  Zika narrowed down my options for a vacation spot as well.  However, I was able to find availability on the one daily direct flight from EWR to PHX on my anniversary weekend.  This made my decision a lot easier and I booked a flight from Thursday afternoon to Sunday morning.

After all the advice from DDFers I booked us a room at the Phoenician and rented a car from Fox.

The Phoenician is a really nice resort with a great staff.  It is also very well located.  However, I would like to point out that there is a resort fee ($30) and fee to self park ($12).  Tomorrow morning I will be looking to waive the resort fee and will update on the outcome. 

On Thursday my flight arrived around 3:30pm and we went straight to the hotel to check-in.  After walking around the hotel we decided to go to last chance.  Definitely recommend going.  If you sift through enough of their garbage patiently you will find amazing deals.  After last chance we went to Segals for dinner.  Have to say I was not so impressed.  I would probably go the chinese route next time instead of the short ribs. Fried wontons were okay. After dinner we went back to hang out at the resort and went to sleep.

On Friday I ended up waking up at around 6am due to the time difference with the east coast.  I called the concierge to see what I could do around the hotel and she recommended that I go on a hike of camelback mountain that was guided and left around 645.  The hike was actually amazing.  I never went to Hawaii and I am not such a big hiker, but I really thought it was a great experience (it was a also great weather for a hike).  The views on the summit were beautiful and you were able to get a nice 360 degree view of the PHX/Scottsdale area.  After the hike we went to pick up food at Imperial for Shabbat.  From there we went to Fresh Mint.  Have to say I am not a big vegetarian food type of guy so Ill leave a review for on that for someone else.  They did make a good limeade though.  After lunch we went to the hotel to hang out by the pool.  The pool area was amazing. They have many pools.  They even had one area with volleyball which was fun.  The pool area also had a water park type area for little kids.  This was actually the first trip we took without our 2 yr old, but there were so many activities for little kids around the hotel (feeding fish by pond, bubbles by the lawn, etc)

Saturday was relaxing.  The rooms have nice size balconies which allowed for us to make our Shabbat meals outdoors.  In the morning we walked around the hotel's cactus garden which was actually a decent size and pretty cool.  At night there was a movie showing for kids by the pool with glow in the dark tubes to hang out in the pool.  After the movie we went to Labella Pizzeria.  The calzones and pizza were actually very good and highly recommended.

Looking forward to coming back with my little son so that he can enjoy.  Hopefully next time I find the time to stay a little longer so that I can go to Sedona and GC.  However, if your looking for a place to just chill, Scottsdale alone will be enough to have a great time (at least if staying at Phoenician).
Resort fee is easily waived there IME.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jedderai on April 04, 2016, 01:55:16 AM
Thanks @Denverite.  And yes @tzifanya54 I was able to get the fee waived. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 04, 2016, 05:25:10 PM
Thanks @Denverite.  And yes @tzifanya54 I was able to get the fee waived.
Good for you. I've stayed there a few times, and always found them very pleasant to deal with.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on April 05, 2016, 12:44:34 PM
srsly, is it less than crazy to go to Arizona in end of August with kids, or is the 103 temp unbearable even if we are in lazy river/pool etc? don't see many other time periods/chances to go to grand canyon (too cold in January, and then there is school...), but will I regret staying in Scottsdale?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on April 06, 2016, 08:17:21 AM
srsly, is it less than crazy to go to Arizona in end of August with kids, or is the 103 temp unbearable even if we are in lazy river/pool etc? don't see many other time periods/chances to go to grand canyon (too cold in January, and then there is school...), but will I regret staying in Scottsdale?

They are set up to deal with the heat (misters by the pool, water everywhere, covers over parking spots, etc) but it really depends on you and the kids.  I personally couldn't deal with it, especially if you have any very young children (imagine that when the wind blows it's not refreshing but getting hit with a hairdryer) but you know your family and if you all can deal, you'll have a blast on the waterslides, lazy rivers, etc.  Just a thought, why not stay in Vegas, where you can get those same awesome pools, kosher restaurants, it's not quite as hot and you are still only a day trip from the Grand Canyon?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: caliheat on April 06, 2016, 10:22:00 AM
srsly, is it less than crazy to go to Arizona in end of August with kids, or is the 103 temp unbearable even if we are in lazy river/pool etc? don't see many other time periods/chances to go to grand canyon (too cold in January, and then there is school...), but will I regret staying in Scottsdale?
I've lived for a few years and can tell you from experience, end of August gets HOT! 103 is the low.. I would say more 110-120 on average.
Although, once you hit 100+, it's all the same - HOT!!
Grand Canyon would be nice at that time of year.
If you are at the pool, weather feels much nicer and very doable.
Remember, tons of sun screen and water.
You can do other many other indoor activities as well - Museums, Indoor Shopping, Indoor Fun Zones etc.
Just make sure to park your car in a shaded area whenever possible, even if it's further from an entry.
Only rent a light colored vehicle, don't want a black car absorbing all that sun!
Will you regret it? it's definitely an experience spending time in the summer "oven". If you plan it out right, won't be too bad.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on April 07, 2016, 04:40:19 PM
Just a thought, why not stay in Vegas, where you can get those same awesome pools, kosher restaurants, it's not quite as hot and you are still only a day trip from the Grand Canyon?
thx for I put everyone. Denverite, was thinking Zona has good kosher options too, plus a hotel in eruv near hotel is nice, plus more of a family feel than LV, and most importantly plus the fact that I can get a deal for a nice 1br suite at Kieranland westin with a lazy river, don't know
Whether I can get similar family chill experience in LV. Anyway it's high 90s there no?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on April 07, 2016, 06:42:05 PM
thx for I put everyone. Denverite, was thinking Zona has good kosher options too, plus a hotel in eruv near hotel is nice, plus more of a family feel than LV, and most importantly plus the fact that I can get a deal for a nice 1br suite at Kieranland westin with a lazy river, don't know
Whether I can get similar family chill experience in LV. Anyway it's high 90s there no?

I LOVE the Westin Kierland, have stayed there multiple times and we go to AZ almost every winter but there is a big difference between 90 degrees and 110! ;)  I also wouldn't stay on the strip in a Casino resort in Vegas but I've had a blast at timeshare places (just like the Kierland Villas).  It's not near the shuls in Vegas but check out Tahiti Village in Vegas and get a comparison on price.  My kids loved their sand beach at the pool to dig and play and they also have a nice lazy river and there is no casino on the property.  I'm not saying not to go but it might be worth exploring Vegas for getting pretty much everything your getting in AZ (except for being in the eruv on Shabbos and if that is a deal breaker for you then definitely just go to Phoenix) and it will be hot in Nevada but not unbearably hot.  Just my two cents but if you go to Phoenix and just stay in the pools you also have a blast.  On another note, the Restaurant Fresh Mint will deliver via the Eat 24 app and last time we stayed at the Westin Kierland, we used it and they delivered the food to us at the pool and my kids thought it was the coolest thing ever!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 07, 2016, 08:12:21 PM
srsly, is it less than crazy to go to Arizona in end of August with kids, or is the 103 temp unbearable even if we are in lazy river/pool etc? don't see many other time periods/chances to go to grand canyon (too cold in January, and then there is school...), but will I regret staying in Scottsdale?
Very doable. I did it with kids.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: cohen220 on April 11, 2016, 01:09:50 AM
I have a full day tomorrow in Arizona. Based out of Phoenix area. Keep in mind I am traveling with my wife and a two year old. I am open to drive somewhere far as long as it's appropriate for a two year old. Has anyone done the Grand Canyon with a two year old? any other ideas are appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on April 11, 2016, 09:55:51 AM
I have a full day tomorrow in Arizona. Based out of Phoenix area. Keep in mind I am traveling with my wife and a two year old. I am open to drive somewhere far as long as it's appropriate for a two year old. Has anyone done the Grand Canyon with a two year old? any other ideas are appreciated. Thanks.
I did Sedona and GC last Chol Hamoed Pesach with a 2.5yo. It's a lot of driving, but if you space it out right it should be okay. I wouldn't do it in one day though.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: drewsky9 on April 12, 2016, 04:09:43 PM
Hi,
My wife and I are going to Arizona for 4 days in May. 
Landing in Phoenix on Sunday night and leaving late Thursday night.
As of now planning on staying in Phoenix on Sunday night.
Staying in Flagstaff on Monday night and Tuesday night.
Staying in Phoenix on Wednesday night.

Monday - Sedona
Tuesday - Grand Canyon
Wednesday - ??
Thursday - Phoenix

For Wednesday should we do another day at the Grand Canyon?  What about the Petrified Forest?

Any and all suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 25, 2016, 02:39:44 PM
New nonstop service from JFK to TUS - http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2016/05/24/with-promise-of-a-revenue-guarantee-aa-to-start.html
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on May 26, 2016, 09:36:57 PM
Besides watching the sunset, what's there to do in Sedona?
(I'm going in August when it will be 100+ degrees, long hikes ain't my idea of fun)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E R K on May 27, 2016, 12:36:35 AM
New nonstop service from JFK to TUS - http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2016/05/24/with-promise-of-a-revenue-guarantee-aa-to-start.html
Just came back from TUS. Stayed at Westin. There are kosher restaurants there.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 27, 2016, 01:08:42 AM
Besides watching the sunset, what's there to do in Sedona?
(I'm going in August when it will be 100+ degrees, long hikes ain't my idea of fun)
Pink jeep tours. It's amazing (and crazy expensive).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on May 30, 2016, 07:35:00 AM
Has anyone here rented a boat on lake Powell? I read through a huge tripadvisor thread on it but the goyim have all the time in the world so they give advice differently.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 30, 2016, 08:42:24 AM
Has anyone here rented a boat on lake Powell? I read through a huge tripadvisor thread on it but the goyim have all the time in the world so they give advice differently.
Yes, it's difficult to get a reservation. You would have to do it far in advance, and I think it needs to be for half a day. We lucked out with a cancellation so we got like a 2 hour rental.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: drewsky9 on June 05, 2016, 07:59:41 AM
My wife and I just got back from Arizona.  We did ATVing in Sedona and it was so much fun.  Obviously it was much cooler, but I'd imagine the breeze of the ATV would be comfortable.  I have a picture of the view at my Arizona Trip Report http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=63263.0#new

Besides watching the sunset, what's there to do in Sedona?
(I'm going in August when it will be 100+ degrees, long hikes ain't my idea of fun)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: drewsky9 on June 05, 2016, 08:01:07 AM
Hi,
My wife and I are going to Arizona for 4 days in May. 
Landing in Phoenix on Sunday night and leaving late Thursday night.
As of now planning on staying in Phoenix on Sunday night.
Staying in Flagstaff on Monday night and Tuesday night.
Staying in Phoenix on Wednesday night.

Monday - Sedona
Tuesday - Grand Canyon
Wednesday - ??
Thursday - Phoenix

For Wednesday should we do another day at the Grand Canyon?  What about the Petrified Forest?

Any and all suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks.

Here's the trip report from that trip: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=63263.0#new
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on June 16, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
My family is looking to stay in phoenix for a weekend this August. I'm looking to rent a house as hotel rooms and Shabbos meals don't go so well together. Airbnb is very expensive and I would prefer to rent from a jewish family. Does anyone know someone who might be interested? TIA
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 16, 2016, 02:05:41 PM
Pink jeep tours. It's amazing (and crazy expensive).
There are other cheaper options
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on June 16, 2016, 02:05:55 PM
My family is looking to stay in phoenix for a weekend this August. I'm looking to rent a house as hotel rooms and Shabbos meals don't go so well together. Airbnb is very expensive and I would prefer to rent from a jewish family. Does anyone know someone who might be interested? TIA
can book the Westin Kierland villas for shabbos (within eruv and 45 minutes from shul) which has a kitchen, and may be cheaper than house rental options..
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 16, 2016, 02:09:29 PM
can book the Westin Kierland villas for shabbos (within eruv and 45 minutes from shul) which has a kitchen, and may be cheaper than house rental options..
45 minutes seems far...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on June 16, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
45 minutes seems far...
+100
It used to be a decent option but the Shul moved further away.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on June 16, 2016, 03:52:10 PM
+100
It used to be a decent option but the Shul moved further away.
ha i was wondering when they moved (when i booked i thought it was 15 minutes away)!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on June 16, 2016, 05:00:51 PM
ha i was wondering when they moved (when i booked i thought it was 15 minutes away)!

If you google their eruv website they have other hotels near the Phoenix community (Westin is near Scottsdale), which is actually the much bigger community.  I've stayed in Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak and the Biltomore Waldorf Astoria is I believe also close.  Both have good HHonors deals and sometimes cash+points deals and suite options (we were upgraded to the huge Ambassador Suite at that Hilton).  You won't get all the pools and amenities and I can't remember the exact name but we also stayed at some kind of Extended Stay Suite hotel for Shabbos there and easily walked to shul.  It should also be listed.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on June 23, 2016, 05:13:47 PM
where is best place to look for a house with a pool walking to shoul for shbbes for next week and in what area should I look for .
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on July 06, 2016, 09:43:15 AM
Weather-wise, is it reasonable to do a Grand Canyon trip in August?
The average Aug temperature for Phoenix is over 100 degrees!
Or is this only a winter trip?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on July 06, 2016, 11:04:40 AM
Weather-wise, is it reasonable to do a Grand Canyon trip in August?
The average Aug temperature for Phoenix is over 100 degrees!
Or is this only a winter trip?
Not at all. It's much cooler on the rim (avg high of 82 in August) since you're at 7-8k feet above sea level. Though if you plan on hiking through the canyon, it can be real hot at the bottom.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on July 06, 2016, 11:20:47 AM
Not at all. It's much cooler on the rim (avg high of 82 in August) since you're at 7-8k feet above sea level. Though if you plan on hiking through the canyon, it can be real hot at the bottom.
I looked at some trip reports.  I plan on 1 day at the Grand Canyon and also doing other local things like jeeping in Sedona and such. Is that also feasible in August?


Also is it worth going all the way to Bryce Canyon?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on July 09, 2016, 06:39:03 PM
Any thoughts on using honeywell or GMAC to rent from national in PHX? I'm looking for a minivan or bigger.
Also is a one-way rental (Phx-LAS) any riskier? TIA
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 09, 2016, 10:25:37 PM
I looked at some trip reports.  I plan on 1 day at the Grand Canyon and also doing other local things like jeeping in Sedona and such. Is that also feasible in August?


Also is it worth going all the way to Bryce Canyon?
1)yes
2)definetly worth it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 09, 2016, 10:26:57 PM
There are other cheaper options
They don't compare. Look at trip advisor reviews.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: moka on July 09, 2016, 10:29:20 PM
Any thoughts on using honeywell or GMAC to rent from national in PHX? I'm looking for a minivan or bigger.
Also is a one-way rental (Phx-LAS) any riskier? TIA
I used Honeywell in phx in April. No issues
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on July 14, 2016, 05:16:38 AM
Did anyone ever stay at baymont inn and suites flagstaff. Revenue is $150 a night in August and you can get it for 3k plus $38.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: amm543 on July 18, 2016, 07:36:35 PM
Anyone ever stay at the Hyatt Place Chandler for Shabbos? It appears to be inside the Chandler eruv and about 1 mile walking distance to Chabad in Chandler. The Chabad Chandler website says they have Shabbos Luncheon after davening and they offer hospitality on their website so I figure I could contact them regarding Fri night seudah. This Hyatt Place I believe starting Aug 1 2016 will only be 5,000 points per night. Does this sound like an ok plan. If anyone stayed there do you know how Shabbos friendly this hotel is? I assume they don't have Shabbos key locks but is the HVAC system and lights no motion based?

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on July 26, 2016, 04:49:45 PM
I'm looking to plan a trip to Arizona for the winter time.  Here's what I need to keep in mind, if I travel this winter, I am an avel and need to carefully plan out my days so that I can daven with a minyan. (please no judgment on trips during aveilus)

I have SPG, Marriott and IHG points. I would be coming from NY or from LA. I would want to do a week, not weekend trip, like from Sunday to Thursday (longest), possible only until Wednesday evening. I want to go to the grand canyon but there aren't any great point options there. I want to go to Sedona and on my drive back to LA I would want to go to Joshua Tree.

There are minyanim in and around Phoenix, but that only really helps me for shachris and not for mincha/maariv. I'm not worried about food, I'll figure that out at the end. I would love to stay at the Phoenecian but basing myself in Phoenix is somewhat ridiculous as its a 4 hour drive to the grand canyon. Also travelling (possibly) with a 1.5 year old.
I'm very open to suggestions, if anyone can give me some tips I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on July 26, 2016, 06:11:29 PM
There is no way to travel to the Grand Canyon in the winter and expect to be able to daven with a minyan unless you arrange a group in advance.  You can try posting on godaven.com and see if you get any interest.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on July 26, 2016, 06:20:43 PM
There is no way to travel to the Grand Canyon in the winter and expect to be able to daven with a minyan unless you arrange a group in advance.  You can try posting on godaven.com and see if you get any interest.
Maybe come from Vegas and go to the north rim?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on July 26, 2016, 06:36:10 PM
There is no way to travel to the Grand Canyon in the winter and expect to be able to daven with a minyan unless you arrange a group in advance.  You can try posting on godaven.com and see if you get any interest.

Thanks. I'll keep in mind when planning. I may just save the trip idea for next winter.

Maybe come from Vegas and go to the north rim?

I thought the big attraction was the south rim. may just be wiser to save the trip for another (more convenient) time. thanks for suggestion
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on July 26, 2016, 08:25:14 PM
Maybe come from Vegas and go to the north rim?

+1, it's closer for Davening.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on July 26, 2016, 09:37:33 PM
North rim is closed in the winter
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 12, 2016, 11:14:29 AM
My proposed itinerary in geographical order (hopefully):

Arrive in PHX, rent RV
Sedona: Montezuma castle, airport Rd Viewpoint, Devils bridge trail,
Oak Creek Canyon (vista?)
Sunset Crater
Grand Canyon - tour the rims
Cameron Trading Post
Pass by Vermilion Cliffs National Monument -AZ/Paria Canyon -UT
Horseshoe Bend
Antelope Canyon
Grand Staircase National Monument
Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Zion NP
Bryce Canyon NP
Depart SLC

I'll be there for 5 days excluding Shabbos.  I know, I most probably won't make it to everywhere on the list.
But keep in mind, we won't be doing any major hiking (baby), only short and easy trails. So that automatically allows us to accomplish so much more...
I hope to spend Shabbos in Vegas (and visit Hoover Dam on the way). Any idea where I should fit it in geographically on my itinerary?
I need to go to SLC to return the vehicle.
Any thoughts on the list? Which places to scrap? Did I miss anything out? Which places may not be RV friendly? Etc.

Would appreciate any help!
TIA!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on August 12, 2016, 12:49:44 PM
My proposed itinerary in geographical order (hopefully):

Arrive in PHX, rent RV
Sedona: Montezuma castle, airport Rd Viewpoint, Devils bridge trail,
Oak Creek Canyon (vista?)
Sunset Crater
Grand Canyon - tour the rims
Cameron Trading Post
Pass by Vermilion Cliffs National Monument -AZ/Paria Canyon -UT
Horseshoe Bend
Antelope Canyon
Grand Staircase National Monument
Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Zion NP
Bryce Canyon NP
Depart SLC

I'll be there for 5 days excluding Shabbos.  I know, I most probably won't make it to everywhere on the list.
But keep in mind, we won't be doing any major hiking (baby), only short and easy trails. So that automatically allows us to accomplish so much more...
I hope to spend Shabbos in Vegas (and visit Hoover Dam on the way). Any idea where I should fit it in geographically on my itinerary?
I need to go to SLC to return the vehicle.
Any thoughts on the list? Which places to scrap? Did I miss anything out? Which places may not be RV friendly? Etc.

Would appreciate any help!
TIA!
I've never been there but this is my itinerary:
Arrive in PHX Sunday 7am and rent car.
Buy food, Nordstrom thingy, drive to sedona-Devils bridge trail and airport viewpoint.
Sleep in flagstaff Sunday night.
Monday- GC-desert view watchtower and Shoshone point.
Drive to Kanab,UT and sleep there.
Tuesday- lake powell/antelope canyon
Wednesday- bryce
Thursday- zion and then drive to vegas-bellagio show, venetian mall, and sleep in the SLS
Friday-6am flight to DTW!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on August 12, 2016, 12:50:31 PM
My proposed itinerary in geographical order (hopefully):

Arrive in PHX, rent RV
Sedona: Montezuma castle, airport Rd Viewpoint, Devils bridge trail,
Oak Creek Canyon (vista?)
Sunset Crater
Grand Canyon - tour the rims
Cameron Trading Post
Pass by Vermilion Cliffs National Monument -AZ/Paria Canyon -UT
Horseshoe Bend
Antelope Canyon
Grand Staircase National Monument
Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Zion NP
Bryce Canyon NP
Depart SLC

I'll be there for 5 days excluding Shabbos.  I know, I most probably won't make it to everywhere on the list.
But keep in mind, we won't be doing any major hiking (baby), only short and easy trails. So that automatically allows us to accomplish so much more...
I hope to spend Shabbos in Vegas (and visit Hoover Dam on the way). Any idea where I should fit it in geographically on my itinerary?
I need to go to SLC to return the vehicle.
Any thoughts on the list? Which places to scrap? Did I miss anything out? Which places may not be RV friendly? Etc.

Would appreciate any help!
TIA!
What day of the week are you arriving and departing?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 12, 2016, 01:19:03 PM
My proposed itinerary in geographical order (hopefully):

Arrive in PHX, rent RV
Sedona: Montezuma castle, airport Rd Viewpoint, Devils bridge trail,
Oak Creek Canyon (vista?)
Sunset Crater
Grand Canyon - tour the rims
Cameron Trading Post
Pass by Vermilion Cliffs National Monument -AZ/Paria Canyon -UT
Horseshoe Bend
Antelope Canyon
Grand Staircase National Monument
Coral Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Zion NP
Bryce Canyon NP
Depart SLC

I'll be there for 5 days excluding Shabbos.  I know, I most probably won't make it to everywhere on the list.
But keep in mind, we won't be doing any major hiking (baby), only short and easy trails. So that automatically allows us to accomplish so much more...
I hope to spend Shabbos in Vegas (and visit Hoover Dam on the way). Any idea where I should fit it in geographically on my itinerary?
I need to go to SLC to return the vehicle.
Any thoughts on the list? Which places to scrap? Did I miss anything out? Which places may not be RV friendly? Etc.

Would appreciate any help!
TIA!

Dude, that is a nice list of things to do and see but I don't think it will happen.  First off, its friggin hot and there is a lot of driving involved.  If I were you, I'd narrow the list down to what you really want to see and do and leave the rest for another trip.  Also, Horseshoe Canyon is a mile or two hike from the parking area and in the summer heat you may not want to do it.

My two cents about Sedona - take the Pink Jeep tour on the broken arrow trail.  It's amazing.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on August 12, 2016, 01:35:53 PM
Dude, that is a nice list of things to do and see but I don't think it will happen.  First off, its friggin hot and there is a lot of driving involved.  If I were you, I'd narrow the list down to what you really want to see and do and leave the rest for another trip.  Also, Horseshoe Canyon is a mile or two hike from the parking area and in the summer heat you may not want to do it.

My two cents about Sedona - take the Pink Jeep tour on the broken arrow trail.  It's amazing.
Is the pink jeep tour really worth $100 per person?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 12, 2016, 01:42:32 PM
Is the pink jeep tour really worth $100 per person?

In my opinion - a resounding yes.  We did it and the kids had a blast.  They drive you up a trail which seems just about impossible to drive on to a beautiful overlook with ancient trees. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 12, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
Is the pink jeep tour really worth $100 per person?
That's what I was gonna ask as well.
Honestly, even the ice field glacier in Jasper is cheaper than that.
Not a chance I'd pay this much.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 12, 2016, 01:45:13 PM
In my opinion - a resounding yes.  We did it and the kids had a blast.  They drive you up a trail which seems just about impossible to drive on to a beautiful overlook with ancient trees.
That would come out to more money than it cost for me to rent the RV!
Ridiculous IMHO. Glad you enjoyed!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 12, 2016, 01:47:11 PM
Funny story - on our Pink Jeep tour we ended up sharing the Jeep with a frum mother and daughter from Brooklyn - and they knew DW's family.  Small world.

As for the cost, I know they offer some discounts but I'm not exactly sure where to find.  The way I got a discount was simply by asking if they offered anything.  The counterperson said something like I'm not really supposed to offer this but he then proceeded to give us a discount off the listed price.  We didn't book in advance and just walked up.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 12, 2016, 02:26:10 PM
Horseshoe Canyon is a mile or two hike from the parking area and in the summer heat you may not want to do it.
It's 1.25 miles RT, supposedly easy hike. So we'll see how hot it is.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 12, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
It's 1.25 miles RT, supposedly easy hike. So we'll see how hot it is.

The length of the hike is not what matters - what matters is that it was over 100 degrees when we were there. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 12, 2016, 02:55:25 PM
Monday- GC-desert view watchtower and Shoshone point.
Why did you choose these two viewpoints in particular?

Tuesday- lake powell
What do you plan on doing there?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on August 12, 2016, 08:22:45 PM
The length of the hike is not what matters - what matters is that it was over 100 degrees when we were there.

+1.  I got a headache just walking from our car to our hotel room from the heat.  And remember that if your car isn't in a shaded spot, the seats and steering wheel can burn you when you get back in!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 22, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Planning to spend a week over Chanukah in Scottsdale. Renting a villa near R' Shoshan's shul with a heated pool. That will give us plenty of activity. Trying to fill up the rest of our time.

Out of Africa looks cool.
I'd like to spend a day in Sedona. Bell rock hike. Airport Mesa overlook for sunset. I'd like to go Jeeping with pink Jeep tours. They only allow 18+ months. I'll be traveling with a15 month old. Does anyone know of a company that will take us?
I'd appreciate suggestions of other activities.
Traveling with aforementioned 1 YO and 5 and 7 YOs
Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 22, 2016, 10:19:29 PM
Eh - 15 mo old or 18 mo - do you really think they will know the difference?  We did the broken arrow trail with Pink Jeep tours and it was awesome.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 22, 2016, 11:16:31 PM
Eh - 15 mo old or 18 mo - do you really think they will know the difference?  We did the broken arrow trail with Pink Jeep tours and it was awesome.
I hear. My main concern is around chinuch of lying in front of my other children
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 22, 2016, 11:30:03 PM
I hear. My main concern is around chinuch of lying in front of my other children
u are shtark!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 23, 2016, 10:41:33 PM
Planning to spend a week over Chanukah in Scottsdale. Renting a villa near R' Shoshan's shul with a heated pool. That will give us plenty of activity. Trying to fill up the rest of our time.

Out of Africa looks cool.
I'd like to spend a day in Sedona. Bell rock hike. Airport Mesa overlook for sunset. I'd like to go Jeeping with pink Jeep tours. They only allow 18+ months. I'll be traveling with a15 month old. Does anyone know of a company that will take us?
I'd appreciate suggestions of other activities.
Traveling with aforementioned 1 YO and 5 and 7 YOs
Thanks!
Bump
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on August 24, 2016, 02:18:53 AM
Grand Canyon?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on August 24, 2016, 10:18:59 AM
Bump

Butterfly Wonderland in Scottsdale
I think the grand canyon is going to be a long day trip from Scottsdale - even Sedona, given the age of your kids is a long day trip.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on August 24, 2016, 11:59:22 AM
Butterfly Wonderland in Scottsdale
I think the grand canyon is going to be a long day trip from Scottsdale - even Sedona, given the age of your kids is a long day trip.
Sedona shouldn't be too bad. He might want to overnight in the area and do Sedona and GC.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 24, 2016, 12:43:46 PM
Sedona shouldn't be too bad. He might want to overnight in the area and do Sedona and GC.
That was the original plan, but with it being Chanukah, we didn't want to hassle with that. Just staying a week in a house in Scottsdale so we don't have any issues with candle lighting.
As such, Grand Canyon was cut from the trip (definitely not doing 3.5 hour trip each way on a single day).
Sedona seems to be 1-1.5 hour trip. I'd do Montezuma's castle on the way. Jeep ride. Choose a hike. Maybe stay for sunset.
We'll definitely check out Butterfly Wonderland.
Out of Africa.
That's 3 days planned. I'd probably want to do one more activity and spend the rest of the time at the pool.
Maybe the instruments museum mentioned upthread.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 24, 2016, 12:47:14 PM
Anyone ever been here:
http://www.therailroadpark.com/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on August 24, 2016, 12:54:07 PM
That was the original plan, but with it being Chanukah, we didn't want to hassle with that. Just staying a week in a house in Scottsdale so we don't have any issues with candle lighting.
As such, Grand Canyon was cut from the trip (definitely not doing 3.5 hour trip each way on a single day).
Sedona seems to be 1-1.5 hour trip. I'd do Montezuma's castle on the way. Jeep ride. Choose a hike. Maybe stay for sunset.
We'll definitely check out Butterfly Wonderland.
Out of Africa.
That's 3 days planned. I'd probably want to do one more activity and spend the rest of the time at the pool.
Maybe the instruments museum mentioned upthread.
Makes sense. Sedona is more like 1.5-2 hours though.

Check out the mountain hikes around Phoenix.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 24, 2016, 03:31:10 PM
Makes sense. Sedona is more like 1.5-2 hours though.

Check out the mountain hikes around Phoenix.
Thanks.
What do you recommend?

Hole in the Rock?
Camelback mountain?
One of these?
http://www.arizonafoothillsmagazine.com/features/features/5253-10-best-hiking-spots-in-phoenix.html
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on August 24, 2016, 04:48:20 PM
Thanks.
What do you recommend?

Hole in the Rock?
Camelback mountain?
One of these?
http://www.arizonafoothillsmagazine.com/features/features/5253-10-best-hiking-spots-in-phoenix.html
I've never done any of them so I wouldn't know which one to recommend.

Maybe this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=27439.msg464050#msg464050) will help.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on August 25, 2016, 07:16:59 PM
Anyone ever been here:
http://www.therailroadpark.com/

Yes, multiple times!  Super fun little day, park trip close to the kosher restaurants. ;)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 26, 2016, 02:06:26 AM
Anyone ever been here:
http://www.therailroadpark.com/
I was suckered into spending a small fortune on this, will report when/if i survive the hokiness :) https://www.thetrain.com/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 29, 2016, 03:30:40 AM
Everyone talks about the Pink Jeep tours, but has anyone tried the other Sedona jeep tours (which u can get for much less with groupon/20% off) like "A day in the west" or Arizona desert mountain jeep tours? this looks simple enough and i can get a ride for 2 for about $75 with tip. Best would be anyone who did both... https://www.groupon.com/deals/a-day-in-the-west-8
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on August 29, 2016, 10:13:16 AM
When I was there I took a company that was not pink jeep tours and had a great time. I don't remember who I used. Pink jeep tours claims that certain trails are exclusive to their tour and that's why they are better
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: BarryLincoln on August 29, 2016, 10:15:53 AM
Everyone talks about the Pink Jeep tours, but has anyone tried the other Sedona jeep tours (which u can get for much less with groupon/20% off) like "A day in the west" or Arizona desert mountain jeep tours? this looks simple enough and i can get a ride for 2 for about $75 with tip. Best would be anyone who did both... https://www.groupon.com/deals/a-day-in-the-west-8

We used a tour provider that we sourced from Groupon.  They were great - can't recall their name.  Offroading was great, guide was helpful and entertaining, had a blast...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 30, 2016, 11:58:31 PM
Went to segals oasis yesterday which was fine (decor/lighting could use an update), but tonight was kitchen 18, which is really a great restaurant option here (prob best fleishigs), and would be great in ny too!
Specials on the board, which were great
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/a71d820aaf571d568b93957d318d35ad.jpg)
Apps avocado rolls and tuna sesame tartar (didn't take pic til most was devoured, both excellent)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/39de48ea3a0833fb2a93803a8061be5e.jpg)
Lamb steak with candied figs
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/f3e979fbdc65745b973eef7199ce8fb9.jpg)
Osso buco short ribs with excellent homemade gnocchi (that I liked more than mike's bistro (jawdrop))(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/55c701c99a3d560d3e6887b910820f23.jpg)
Ribs platter, not amazing but very good even though slathered with an obviously commercial BBQ sauce; falling off bones (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/543a7c6aeead1a411334bfd776ae90f7.jpg)
18 burger was very good even medium well (for kid) but note they put in lots of onions and even cilantro so your kid may get picky about it... (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160831/1ba3f3094334919ee8528dc88d971bcc.jpg)
Had a nice full meal for 6 plus a baby and portions were huge, brought half of it home, all for well under $200 after tip.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on September 01, 2016, 01:50:24 PM
We went to Imperial. No cholent unless you order 3 pounds minimum? That'll never fly in Flatbush! Anyway, in Imperial you saw everything in front of you and picked what you wanted. No liver, except frozen Meal Mart. We bought our stuff there. We were totally not impressed with the food. Very unhappy. The chopped liver was sawdust.
After the hike we went to pick up food at Imperial for Shabbat.
How was Imperial for takeout other than liver? what is best option for yummy shabbos food in PH/Scottsdale (trying to get from Kitchen 18 but may be a bit too expensive to just get specific dishes vs. a few pounds of fried chicken from somewhere)?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on September 01, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Thanks for the Kitchen 18 pics! Have some family in AZ and go maybe once a yr been meaning to try that place out.. Last time it was closed b/c it was right before Pesach.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on September 01, 2016, 08:34:22 PM
Thanks for the Kitchen 18 pics! Have some family in AZ and go maybe once a yr been meaning to try that place out.. Last time it was closed b/c it was right before Pesach.
really impressed with them, and their La Bella Pizza (same owners) is amazing too. May just get my shabbos food from them...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on September 05, 2016, 09:05:36 AM
Here's a sloppy TR of my family's recent trip out west. I'm posting here because it's not worthy of being in the TR thread, rather as help for ppl to plan their arizona trips.

Sunday: We headed of DTW on a 6am Southwest flight to Phoenix, with 2 of us flying for free with SW CP and the rest for about 7k points. I reserved a midsize from national using honeywell and wasn't asked for ID. There were no minivans or full size SUVs but the manager was nice and gave us minivan for no additional charge. (Pro tip: take a white one cuz it'll stay a lot cooler)
We then went to the ohr hatorah Shul and caught the 8am shachris. After that we stocked up at imperial and also walmart. We searched every walmart, target, Walgreens... For a disposable grill but nobody had. So we made a yeshivish BBQ grill. We bought disposable turkey pans and walmart has small coal bags for $3.50 that you just light the bag and 10 minutes later your coals are ready!
So you put the bag into a pan, light it then spread them out and put the other pan on top. And poke holes in the top one for more flavor. It worked perfectly and there's no bulky grills, toiveling, cleaning or waiting to cool down.
At 10:30am phoenix time we were already starving cuz it's 1:30 eastern time(no DST in arizona). We went to Manhatten pizza because they were the only ones open at that hour.
They had pretty good pizza, especially for the price.

We went to the nordstrom last chance but it was more like a thrift shop with damaged shoes.

We then headed out to sedona where we did the beginning of the Devils bridge hike. Sedona is just stunning! There are several viewpoints around the city to get nice pics. After that we went to the airport road viewpoint which is a huge tourist spot around sunset. It was a little cloudy but that's definitely the best place to see the sunset. We also hiked down and climbed a huge rock.

We then drove to flagstaff where we stayed at the baymont inn. I got it with points for 3k + $38 though I later saw it on the app EXPDEALS/Priceline for $60.
The hotel was clean, had 2 regular comfortable double beds, big fridge, outdoor pool and jacuzzi.
Pro tip: get 3rd floor rooms and get handicapped rooms if you want adjoining rooms.

Monday: We bought a national park pass before the trip for $85. We might actually get 2 summers out if because I ordered it August 2 and it doesn't expire until the end of August 2017.
We entered the Grand Canyon from the east gate.
The first stop was the desert view watchtower. Then the Navajo viewpoint. We went to Shoshan point which was for sure the nicest view of the GC. There a rock that's juts out into the GC so you're surrounded by the canyon on 3 sides. It's really quiet and serene. And they have picnic tables nearby. They try to keep it a secret because they don't want crowds going there. There are no signs or markings for it. Here are directions coming from the south entrance: drive until mile marker 244. About 10 seconds later on your left, you'll see a small gravel parking area. Park there. There's a sign that says entry by permit only, just walk past it.
Walk about 15 minutes on the road until you get there, the walk is mostly shaded. It's worth it!

We left when it got dark and headed up the 89 to Kanab, utah.
There's a gas station right when you got onto the 89 but after that there are none open at night until Page,AZ.

We slept for the next 3 nights in an Airbnb for $140 a night. Kanab was the perfect place because it's right in the middle of Bryce Canyon, lake powell and Zion Np. PM me for more info.

Tuesday: Bryce Canyon. We got there in the afternoon and there was hail on the ground! And it was 46. So pack long pants and hoodies. My advice is to drive all the way to the top without stopping and then work your way down. All the viewpoints will then be on your right side. Inspiration point is the nicest so do it last.

Wednesday: lake powell.
You can only reserve a boat for a full day or more. They might have boats available for a half day but there's no way to know. There weren't any boats available by wahweap marina or antelope point marina so we just went swimming and made a BBQ. We also stopped by the Glen Canyon Dam, which made the lake. It's roughly the same size as the Hoover Dam, but for some reason it doesn't get any attention. We also went to horseshoe bend, which was just stunning!

Thursday:
We packed up then headed to Zion NP. At zion they don't let you drive to most of the hikes, you have to shuttle (spring through fall).
Pro tip: park at canyon junction instead of the visitors center. It's less shuttling and also you barely have to walk. And bring water shoes and towels because the water is half the fun!
We did the riverside walk because that's the easiest for families.

We then drove to Vegas because it's a lot closer than phoenix. We ate at simon and joes and were very impressed. We went to the venetian mall and the Bellagio fountain. (The Burj khalifa kicks!) I booked the SLS for $63 a night.( got the resort fee waived). And I used an SNA to upgrade to a giant suite. Though in the regular rooms the bathroom doesn't really have a door and you can basically see from the room to the shower.
We just needed a place to sleep from 11pm until 4am. (We had 6am flights)
I wouldn't recommend the SLS though. It took more than a half hour to check in. And it was a pain to deal with valet parking and the garage. Time is way more important than luxury, IMHO. That's all folks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yslkwd on September 26, 2016, 11:46:00 PM
planning Az trip looking to go to Petrified forest. Any other ideas (have been to GC..Sedona). Has anyone been to  saguaro  ?
would appreicate  any tips
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yslkwd on October 09, 2016, 01:45:00 AM
bump
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on November 01, 2016, 09:02:51 AM
Any recommendations where to stay walking distance to a shul for Shabbos.  SPG or Marriot a plus
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: almass on November 01, 2016, 01:31:27 PM
I am looking to go to scottsdale AZ Westin Kierland Resort and Spa for Yeshiva Week (winter Break

has anyone been there and have any tips on kosher food and things to do for the kids.

looking to try and do something new beside for Florida (Miami and Orlando) and california.

any tips would be helpful.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on November 04, 2016, 08:29:04 AM
And deals on car rentals?  Are these small companies like Advantage or Fox reliable? 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yslkwd on November 05, 2016, 10:28:02 PM
Any recommendations where to stay walking distance to a shul for Shabbos.  SPG or Marriot a plus

Reserve kosher has listings in the frum community
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yslkwd on November 05, 2016, 10:36:23 PM
Just wanted to follow up on my recent trip to AZ
We went to the Apache lake a beautiful area, they have pontoons for $25 or so an hour you do need to drive on a dirt road for about 8 miles before Apache lake and 12 miles after. Only for drivers not afraid of driving on mountain edges. The scenery was really nice with cactus all around and mountains, canyons.. then we boated on the lake. After that we went to Petrified Forest which is stunning especially the painted desert part. It was definitely worth the drive. 
If anyone has any questions let me know I went with two young children
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on November 20, 2016, 12:06:45 AM
Anyone stay at the royal palms hotel, it's part of Hyatt.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E-MAN on November 21, 2016, 11:52:22 AM
Any activities for little kids (ages 1-3) in AZ other than hotel pool?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on November 23, 2016, 10:22:09 AM
in the entire state or just the Phoenix metro area?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: msg on November 23, 2016, 11:09:41 AM
Planning on going with my wife to Phoenix. What is the best option for staying in Phoenix during the week.

Is the Phoencian the best option?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: msg on November 23, 2016, 10:38:07 PM
Is the Phoenician or the JW Marriott a better option?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Jm1248 on December 03, 2016, 08:34:48 PM
Going to the Grand Canyon for two days this week. Is it worth paying $200 a night for a small room on the South Rim of the GC, or rather stay at a Best Western (Diamond status) approximately 15 min away for $90 a night?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on December 04, 2016, 07:47:34 PM
Is the Phoenician or the JW Marriott a better option?

Are they similar redemption costs?  The JW Marriott was awesome.  I stayed in the Canyon Villas (adjacent timeshares) and got to use facilities at both places, which was awesome.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: E-MAN on December 05, 2016, 12:50:11 PM
in the entire state or just the Phoenix metro area?
Within a 1-1.5 hour drive of Phoenix metro area
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ya on December 06, 2016, 03:29:33 PM
fyi new Andaz in Scottsdale
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: momo on December 06, 2016, 03:31:57 PM
fyi new Andaz in Scottsdale
Not open yet.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on December 06, 2016, 04:12:45 PM
Not open yet.

When's it opening? Are they rebranding another hotel or building it?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ya on December 07, 2016, 11:11:51 AM
When's it opening? Are they rebranding another hotel or building it?
building it. opens DEC 13th. Im going DEC 20th
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ya on December 07, 2016, 11:14:46 AM
the GM instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/mason14az/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on December 08, 2016, 12:22:41 PM
are there reliable minyanim anywhere other than phoenix? kosher food?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on December 09, 2016, 02:15:37 AM
are there reliable minyanim anywhere other than phoenix? kosher food?
yes scottsdale has a nice shul ahavas something or other, and several decent food options including Kitchen18 which is really NY/LA level quality restaurant.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on December 13, 2016, 02:54:50 PM
haven't found any stuff on ddf regarding Tucson. any unreleased tuscon TR's or just general info on where to daven, eat, what to see?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on December 13, 2016, 06:56:53 PM
haven't found any stuff on ddf regarding Tucson. any unreleased tuscon TR's or just general info on where to daven, eat, what to see?

There is a dairy restaurant within the university there.  Not a big community.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on December 14, 2016, 12:02:37 PM
There is a dairy restaurant within the university there.  Not a big community.
one rabbi I called mentioned a deli
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shadchan on December 14, 2016, 05:41:01 PM
http://tucsontorah.org/synagogue-community/keeping-kosher-tucson/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 03, 2017, 11:36:10 PM
Anybody have any experience with the Sheraton desert oasis villas in scottsdale?
How does it compare to the westin kierland villas?
TIA
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 04, 2017, 01:37:28 PM
I don't know the Sheraton but the Westin villas was very nice. I stayed there twice on points (less than the main hotel)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 04, 2017, 01:44:43 PM
yes scottsdale has a nice shul ahavas something or other, and several decent food options including Kitchen18 which is really NY/LA level quality restaurant.
Sounds like you've eaten at Kitchen18. Well I'm not sure how you've eaten there and not realized the Chabad shul right next door (never mind that they give the hechsher on the restaurant), you can't really miss it.
Yes, they have daily minyanim.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 04, 2017, 10:59:39 PM
Anybody have any experience with the Sheraton desert oasis villas in scottsdale?
How does it compare to the westin kierland villas?
TIA

I've stayed at the Sheraton Desert Oasis and was disappointed.  It's a timeshare only property that is basically like an apartment complex with a pool, that wasn't heated well.  The Westin Kierland Villas are awesome and I've been back there a few times.  Hands-down go to the Westin!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on January 05, 2017, 01:05:36 AM
I've stayed at the Sheraton Desert Oasis and was disappointed.  It's a timeshare only property that is basically like an apartment complex with a pool, that wasn't heated well.  The Westin Kierland Villas are awesome and I've been back there a few times.  Hands-down go to the Westin!
what's the difference from The Westin Kierland Resort & Spa and The Westin Kierland Villas, Scottsdale  ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on January 05, 2017, 11:53:52 AM
Sounds like you've eaten at Kitchen18. Well I'm not sure how you've eaten there and not realized the Chabad shul right next door (never mind that they give the hechsher on the restaurant), you can't really miss it.
Yes, they have daily minyanim.
i know about the chabad shul next door, davened mincha there :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on January 05, 2017, 11:55:38 AM
what's the difference from The Westin Kierland Resort & Spa and The Westin Kierland Villas, Scottsdale  ?
two separate properties, but villas people can go over to the resort & Spa and use their bigger grounds (lazy river/surfing machine etc, though note surfing costs $ for anyone). pool at villas when i was there in august was mostly empty so spent lots of time there switching over occassionally to the fuller resort grounds for the river and surfing. that surfing experience is a real chavayah, highly recommended.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on January 06, 2017, 12:43:48 AM
Anyone interested in a minyan in the Westin Kierland Shabbos January 28?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 06, 2017, 01:40:58 AM
two separate properties, but villas people can go over to the resort & Spa and use their bigger grounds (lazy river/surfing machine etc, though note surfing costs $ for anyone). pool at villas when i was there in august was mostly empty so spent lots of time there switching over occassionally to the fuller resort grounds for the river and surfing. that surfing experience is a real chavayah, highly recommended.

+1 Villas guests can use all the amenities there and at the resort (I think the Villa pool was much warmer than the huge resort pool) plus you get a larger unit, with kitchen facilities, much better value than the staying in a room at the resort.  My kid also loved the Surfing machine!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 06, 2017, 07:54:25 AM
Anyone interested in a minyan in the Westin Kierland Shabbos January 28?
Well too late for me. I booked everything already for during the week. But that definitely would have been nice.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Issac Karahod on January 08, 2017, 03:50:33 PM
Anyone have any experience with the W Scottsdale?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: burryhood on January 10, 2017, 12:53:55 PM
building it. opens DEC 13th. Im going DEC 20th

How was?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: burryhood on January 10, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
Any activities for little kids (ages 1-3) in AZ other than hotel pool?

Did you get an answer?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 10, 2017, 02:19:08 PM
Did you get an answer?

There is a great Children's museum and Science Museum (went for free with reciprocity from my local one), a fun park in Scottsdale with a train, my kids loved, I think called McCormick park...it's like any city, with lots too do for kids if you look into but the weather is warm there. ;)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: burryhood on January 10, 2017, 06:05:27 PM
There is a great Children's museum and Science Museum (went for free with reciprocity from my local one), a fun park in Scottsdale with a train, my kids loved, I think called McCormick park...it's like any city, with lots too do for kids if you look into but the weather is warm there. ;)

Good to know, thanks.

Concerned about shabbos though (in the Phoenician) since it's not walkable to any shuls. Any suggestions what's there for kids to do?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: burryhood on January 10, 2017, 06:16:35 PM
Anyone have any experience with the W Scottsdale?

I stayed there last year. Rooms are small, and hotel is very clean. I never made it to the pool
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on January 10, 2017, 06:47:27 PM
Anything interesting worth going to Tucson?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Issac Karahod on January 11, 2017, 07:38:40 PM
I stayed there last year. Rooms are small, and hotel is very clean. I never made it to the pool
Thanks for the response.
I'll be in Phoenix for 10 days with extended family but hope to take advantage of the babysitting potential and get away for a day or two with the wife. Between IHG and SPG/Marriott, can any of the regulars suggest a hotel? Looking for something fun and different. The rooms at the W look great but if they are too small I won't enjoy much. TIA!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 11, 2017, 10:18:23 PM
Thanks for the response.
I'll be in Phoenix for 10 days with extended family but hope to take advantage of the babysitting potential and get away for a day or two with the wife. Between IHG and SPG/Marriott, can any of the regulars suggest a hotel? Looking for something fun and different. The rooms at the W look great but if they are too small I won't enjoy much. TIA!
Phoenician is awesome especially if you can pull off an upgrade
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Issac Karahod on January 11, 2017, 10:36:36 PM
Phoenician is awesome especially if you can pull off an upgrade
Checked it out online. Looks like a good bet.
I'm only Gold with Starwood. Is there something one does to "pull off an upgrade" or is that what happens when you happen to be upgraded? :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 12, 2017, 01:05:13 AM
Checked it out online. Looks like a good bet.
I'm only Gold with Starwood. Is there something one does to "pull off an upgrade" or is that what happens when you happen to be upgraded? :)
I've gotten upgraded to a huge suite there with just gold status after and a pleasant email to the front desk manager. The small incremental upgrades they give you automatically aren't worth much.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: burryhood on January 12, 2017, 12:41:00 PM
Thanks for the response.
I'll be in Phoenix for 10 days with extended family but hope to take advantage of the babysitting potential and get away for a day or two with the wife. Between IHG and SPG/Marriott, can any of the regulars suggest a hotel? Looking for something fun and different. The rooms at the W look great but if they are too small I won't enjoy much. TIA!
If it's just you and wife, it's not terribly small. But with kids would be

The Phoenician is a much better bet, also check out Marriot camelback - stunning grounds
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Issac Karahod on January 12, 2017, 03:23:32 PM
Thanks, guys. Just made a reservation for The Phoenician. Looks good!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dave A on January 13, 2017, 11:08:45 AM
fyi new Andaz in Scottsdale

So has anyone stayed here yet?  Supposed to go in March.  Relatively low points redemptions but the pictures aren't all that encouraging ...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on January 14, 2017, 10:04:34 PM
So has anyone stayed here yet?  Supposed to go in March.  Relatively low points redemptions but the pictures aren't all that encouraging ...
I know was looking at the pictures yesterday nothing exciting.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ya on January 14, 2017, 10:28:12 PM
So has anyone stayed here yet?  Supposed to go in March.  Relatively low points redemptions but the pictures aren't all that encouraging ...
Yes I did.  Nothing that special.  Service is beyond amazing though.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 14, 2017, 10:55:48 PM
Yes I did.  Nothing that special.  Service is beyond amazing though.

Is the pool area nice? Fun for kids?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ya on January 14, 2017, 10:56:31 PM
Is the pool area nice? Fun for kids?
It's pretty nice. A bit cramped.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 17, 2017, 12:58:04 AM
Any Info on which villa to request at the westin kierland? any of them with views? next to parking etc.
TIA
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 17, 2017, 10:18:18 AM
Any Info on which villa to request at the westin kierland? any of them with views? next to parking etc.
TIA
I would recommend away from the pool, maybe the porch overlooking the golf course, if you want some peace and quiet. I don't think we had a single window. Just the porch door. A higher floor is preferable as well. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 17, 2017, 01:12:46 PM
I would recommend away from the pool, maybe the porch overlooking the golf course, if you want some peace and quiet. I don't think we had a single window. Just the porch door. A higher floor is preferable as well. Enjoy.
Thank you but I believe you are referring to the resort. My reservation is at the villas.
I'd imagine there are only ground floor villas.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 17, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
Thank you but I believe you are referring to the resort. My reservation is at the villas.
I'd imagine there are only ground floor villas.
I am referring to the villas, not the resort. There are buildings with multiple floors. Each "apt" is called a villa. So what I said applies. We were there twice. BTW, you can use all the facilities at the resort.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on January 17, 2017, 11:53:15 PM
I am referring to the villas, not the resort. There are buildings with multiple floors. Each "apt" is called a villa. So what I said applies. We were there twice. BTW, you can use all the facilities at the resort.
personally, we loved our ground floor villa facing the golf course, its great to not have to shlep upstairs or an elevator if u dont have to (esp for shabbos, but even otherwise)... our view was still very nice though occasionally some ducks came close when we ate outside...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 18, 2017, 12:24:48 AM
I am referring to the villas, not the resort. There are buildings with multiple floors. Each "apt" is called a villa. So what I said applies. We were there twice. BTW, you can use all the facilities at the resort.
personally, we loved our ground floor villa facing the golf course, its great to not have to shlep upstairs or an elevator if u dont have to (esp for shabbos, but even otherwise)... our view was still very nice though occasionally some ducks came close when we ate outside...
ok I'm sorry then. Thanks for the info. I'm not there for shabbos so an upper floor won't bother me.
Well now that I see that they aren't really "villas" as I would have imagined would it be possible to grill on the porch or will it affect other guests which would mean the hotel would be aware and I'd imagine it's probably officially against hotel policy.
Thanks a lot for you help.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 18, 2017, 01:24:37 PM
ok I'm sorry then. Thanks for the info. I'm not there for shabbos so an upper floor won't bother me.
Well now that I see that they aren't really "villas" as I would have imagined would it be possible to grill on the porch or will it affect other guests which would mean the hotel would be aware and I'd imagine it's probably officially against hotel policy.
Thanks a lot for you help.
I believe there were drills set up outside the building (you can verify that with them) so you can probably put yours (kosher) on top. They were nice villas. I stayed twice
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 18, 2017, 01:25:14 PM
oh yeah - check the weather report. Can be chilly
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 18, 2017, 09:42:34 PM
I believe there were drills set up outside the building (you can verify that with them) so you can probably put yours (kosher) on top. They were nice villas. I stayed twice
right I hear that but (I know I'm gonna sound lazy) but it is so much more convenient to be able to grill on your porch.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on January 19, 2017, 07:52:57 PM
Which has better shabbos takeout Segal's or Imperial?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Danfan27 on January 19, 2017, 09:58:31 PM
I'm looking into going to the Grand Canyon area for the 2nd week in February. What is the best area to stay in? How far is a daily minyan? I have plenty of ur points and some spg.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on January 20, 2017, 01:01:38 AM
Which has better shabbos takeout Segal's or Imperial?
for like kugel and chicken prob imperial. but we loved Kitchen 18 where they also do a takeout menu and their food was really great though perhaps a bit more expensive.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 20, 2017, 08:33:53 AM
I'm looking into going to the Grand Canyon area for the 2nd week in February. What is the best area to stay in? How far is a daily minyan? I have plenty of ur points and some spg.
might have to go 3 hours away to phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: samtam on January 23, 2017, 01:26:48 PM
thinking about going to pheonix, looking for input & suggestions.

flying in thursday staying in pheonix for shabbos, leave motzei shabbos/early sunday to grand canyon..... I would like to do GC, lake powell, bryce canyon & maybe zion national park. I would have to get back to pheonix by thurs. morn-early afternoon for flight back.
is motzei shabbos till thursday morning enought time to get this in??

Ps. its a few bachurim so we can drive through wed night back to phx if needed. or does it make sense to drive up to BC on motzei shabbos & work our way down?

where did you stay in phoenix for shabbos?
where did you get food from?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on January 23, 2017, 01:33:44 PM
where did you stay in phoenix for shabbos?
where did you get food from?
I have family there that I stayed by.

There is a kosher store that you can get take by though
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: samtam on January 23, 2017, 07:12:56 PM
Any suggestions were to stay for shabbos in Phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 23, 2017, 07:19:46 PM
Any suggestions were to stay for shabbos in Phoenix
In Scottsdale there is residence inn near R Shoshan's shul and a holiday inn near Chabad
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: samtam on January 23, 2017, 08:52:19 PM
Doing a Vegas-AZ trip starting Sunday. Plan on driving Wed from LAS to GC, sleep Wed. night in either Flagstaff of Sedona and do something good Thurs. before I get to PHX at night.
Not sure what I'm doing Fri but it's gotta be in the PHX area.
Flying out Sun. in the AM.

So I guess Thursday and Friday are the days I still need to plan out in AZ, Thurs. starting out in Sedona.

where did you stay for shabbos?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: samtam on January 23, 2017, 11:38:08 PM
is there really a big difference between the pink jeep tour and any other company?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on January 24, 2017, 11:19:29 AM
is there really a big difference between the pink jeep tour and any other company?
Don't know about any other company but the pink jeep tour was excellent.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on January 25, 2017, 08:20:23 PM
Any suggestions were to stay for shabbos in Phoenix

If you want Phx, not Scottsdale, the eruv website has a list of close hotels.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on January 25, 2017, 10:00:47 PM
is there really a big difference between the pink jeep tour and any other company?
Yes. Can't compare, firsthand experience on pink jeep, compared to others experience on diff tours.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Srsy on January 29, 2017, 08:07:14 PM
Has anyone went on the Dolly Sreamboat?  Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 29, 2017, 11:25:11 PM
If anyone needs a portable gas grill I'm leaving back home this Thursday night. Up for grabs afterward
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 09, 2017, 07:18:33 AM
Are any of the resorts within walking distance to a Shul?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on February 10, 2017, 12:27:41 AM
Are any of the resorts within walking distance to a Shul?
i walked from the westin kierland villas to shul in scottsdale (ahavas torah) was about 50 minutes, not too bad but not great.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 11, 2017, 07:34:50 PM
i walked from the westin kierland villas to shul in scottsdale (ahavas torah) was about 50 minutes, not too bad but not great.
Thanks, too far for me.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on February 12, 2017, 04:07:32 PM
Thanks, too far for me.

WA Biltmore and Hilton squaw Peak are closer than that to Phoenix shuls.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: hide4 on February 12, 2017, 06:51:02 PM
two separate properties, but villas people can go over to the resort & Spa and use their bigger grounds (lazy river/surfing machine etc, though note surfing costs $ for anyone). pool at villas when i was there in august was mostly empty so spent lots of time there switching over occassionally to the fuller resort grounds for the river and surfing. that surfing experience is a real chavayah, highly recommended.
Why would you go to westin villas over resort and spa?
And can Andaz be booked with hyatt free night?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on February 12, 2017, 08:37:07 PM
Why would you go to westin villas over resort and spa?
And can Andaz be booked with hyatt free night?
westin villas 12k a night resort and spa 20k a night.
And the rooms at the villas were very large.
And finally, as a villas guest you have access to all the resort amenities. That's without having to oy the resort fee.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on February 12, 2017, 08:58:18 PM
westin villas 12k a night resort and spa 20k a night.
And the rooms at the villas were very large.
And finally, as a villas guest you have access to all the resort amenities. That's without having to oy the resort fee.

+1.  The question is why would you possibly want to stay at the hotel.  The villas have a separate, less crowded pool that is heated better and if you do want to use anything at the resort, you can.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on February 12, 2017, 09:01:56 PM
+1.  The question is why would you possibly want to stay at the hotel.  The villas have a separate, less crowded pool that is heated better and if you do want to use anything at the resort, you can.
when I was there the resort pool was actually empty. One day we were the only ones there.

And the surfing is definitely worth it IMO
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: David1 on February 13, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
Does anyone have reviews or experince at the ARIZONA BILTMORE WALDORF ASTORIA RESORT...and any must do attractions? Going to be in Phoenix for  a couple days in march.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 13, 2017, 08:24:53 PM
WA Biltmore and Hilton squaw Peak are closer than that to Phoenix shuls.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on March 05, 2017, 09:57:44 PM
Is there a best time of day to do the pink jeep tours Sedona (Broken Arrow)?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on March 05, 2017, 10:16:43 PM
Is there a best time of day to do the pink jeep tours Sedona (Broken Arrow)?
Best in terms of?  The only thing I can think of is to go when the heat is a bit less oppressive.  Probably first tour of the day.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on March 06, 2017, 04:14:58 PM
Anyone kayak on Lake Powell before?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on March 06, 2017, 04:58:17 PM
Here's a recommendation for those vacationing in the Arizona area (especially in the Page area in the summer):  pick a time and set an old style clock to it.  Sometimes the vehicle's clock is fine, but I'm not sure about newer model cars.  Between AZ not doing DST, NV in another time zone, and the Navajo nation on its own time (Antelope Canyon), we had a hard time knowing how much time elapsed between various things.  This can be important for medical and halachic reasons (we dealt with both).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: David1 on March 13, 2017, 07:39:16 PM
Staying at the ARIZONA BILTMORE, In Arizona for 4 days and wanted to tour as much as I could. Want to go to Grand Canyon for one day, any recommendations where to go?  and any other recommendations that are must do's? Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on March 14, 2017, 03:43:57 PM
Staying at the ARIZONA BILTMORE, In Arizona for 4 days and wanted to tour as much as I could. Want to go to Grand Canyon for one day, any recommendations where to go?  and any other recommendations that are must do's? Thanks!
Must do: Pink jeep tour of Broken Arrow Rd. from Sedona. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on March 16, 2017, 05:32:08 AM
Must do: Pink jeep tour of Broken Arrow Rd. from Sedona.

Did this on Monday. If you're driving to the tour give yourself some extra time. Traffic backs up pretty badly as you approach the area and parking can take a few minutes. Almost missed my tour.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: David1 on March 16, 2017, 10:55:36 AM
Did this on Monday. If you're driving to the tour give yourself some extra time. Traffic backs up pretty badly as you approach the area and parking can take a few minutes. Almost missed my tour.
Ok thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on March 16, 2017, 06:21:40 PM
Ok thanks for the heads up!
When we were searching for parking, Pink Jeep directed us toward a lot that was on the side street across from them, a couple blocks up.  No charge to park, no time limit, short walk.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: David1 on March 17, 2017, 11:29:41 AM
When we were searching for parking, Pink Jeep directed us toward a lot that was on the side street across from them, a couple blocks up.  No charge to park, no time limit, short walk.
Perfect Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: David1 on March 28, 2017, 01:21:27 PM
Wanted to give some points from my trip:
Firstly, the Biltmore is a gorgeous place to stay. We had a suite and the room was pretty big.
Ate at segals oasis our first night there. Food was pretty good, people were so friendly and enjoyed.
Second day ate at Milk + Honey pizza store in the jcc, we were pretty hungry after a morning hike on Phoenix Mountain, food was ok nothing special. For dinner we ate at 613 Grill. It's a pretty new place, they said they're open about a month now. They we so so nice. Didn't realize everything closes at 9, so I began calling all the restaurants to see which one was still open. They took our order after 9 and stayed open for us. Really nice people and really good food. Their poppers are so good!  Highly recommend 613 Grill!! The next day we ate at la bellas pizzeria. Also really good pizza and super nice. The guy gave us more food to try and added some extra slices to our order. Really enjoyed this place. The guy at the restaurant told us he also owns Kitchen 18 so after another hike we headed over there for dinner. The portions were huge, we were only able to eat half the meal. So we took the rest back for the flight home. Overall the people at all the restaurants were really nice and pleasant
Reading about everyones shopping experience at Last Chance I knew I had to stop by and see for myself. Figuring it's probably better to go early I headed over there at 10am when they open. When we got there there were tons of people waiting in front of the store for them to open. It was like Black Friday times 10. Everyone rushed the store and grabbed anything they could find. Stuff was really cheap and I was able to get some nice stuff. But be prepared to spend a lot of time there and encounter a lot of people. But worth checking out if you have time.
Overal phoenix is a really nice place to visit and people are really nice everywhere we went.
Thanks for wiki on this forum and for all the peoples help

 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on March 28, 2017, 06:30:48 PM
Wanted to give some points from my trip:
Firstly, the Biltmore is a gorgeous place to stay. We had a suite and the room was pretty big.
Ate at segals oasis our first night there. Food was pretty good, people were so friendly and enjoyed.
Second day ate at Milk + Honey pizza store in the jcc, we were pretty hungry after a morning hike on Phoenix Mountain, food was ok nothing special. For dinner we ate at 613 Grill. It's a pretty new place, they said they're open about a month now. They we so so nice. Didn't realize everything closes at 9, so I began calling all the restaurants to see which one was still open. They took our order after 9 and stayed open for us. Really nice people and really good food. Their poppers are so good!  Highly recommend 613 Grill!! The next day we ate at la bellas pizzeria. Also really good pizza and super nice. The guy gave us more food to try and added some extra slices to our order. Really enjoyed this place. The guy at the restaurant told us he also owns Kitchen 18 so after another hike we headed over there for dinner. The portions were huge, we were only able to eat half the meal. So we took the rest back for the flight home. Overall the people at all the restaurants were really nice and pleasant
Reading about everyones shopping experience at Last Chance I knew I had to stop by and see for myself. Figuring it's probably better to go early I headed over there at 10am when they open. When we got there there were tons of people waiting in front of the store for them to open. It was like Black Friday times 10. Everyone rushed the store and grabbed anything they could find. Stuff was really cheap and I was able to get some nice stuff. But be prepared to spend a lot of time there and encounter a lot of people. But worth checking out if you have time.
Overal phoenix is a really nice place to visit and people are really nice everywhere we went.
Thanks for wiki on this forum and for all the peoples help
Any specific reason you chose this property over spg properties? The rooms look dated. How much time did you need driving up to GC and back? Was there traffic? Did you do the pink jeep tours? Worth it?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 29, 2017, 12:49:56 PM
Any of the kosher places in PHX on Seamless etc?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on March 29, 2017, 04:45:16 PM
Any specific reason you chose this property over spg properties? The rooms look dated. How much time did you need driving up to GC and back? Was there traffic? Did you do the pink jeep tours? Worth it?

We stayed with our family in the villas at the Biltmore last June. They were all recently renovated and featured kitchens - which helped for food purposes. Great rooms. We had a fantastic time.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 31, 2017, 05:36:34 PM
Any of the kosher places in PHX on Seamless etc?

For delivery?  Fresh Mint is on Eat 24.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on April 04, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
Was thinking of an AZ with my wife this summer. Is that crazy (ie. way to hot) and what is the nicest points resort in the phoenix area?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mb1 on April 04, 2017, 04:13:49 PM
Was thinking of an AZ with my wife this summer. Is that crazy (ie. way to hot) and what is the nicest points resort in the phoenix area?
check the prices before you use points as summer is off season
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on April 04, 2017, 04:20:21 PM
Phoenix is very very hot in the summer as you can gather from my trip report:

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=64756.0

However, Flagstaff and the area by the Grand Canyon is nice and cool.  It depends what part of Arizona you want to go to. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on April 04, 2017, 04:46:06 PM
I as well was planning on making Arizona the second half of trip with family in summer. I am hoping to leave LA Sunday morning and fly out of PHX Thursday night.

Travelling with wife and my whole crew (kids 3-17). Intimidated by the heat in Phoenix with little ones for more then 1 day.

Plan A:
ē   Drive Sunday morning towards Bryce, (maybe stopping along the way in Zion), and sleeping somewhere close to Bryce
ē   Do early Monday morning hike in Bryce, and then drive to South Rim and try to catch some of the vistas and sunset. Sleep in Grand Canyon Area
ē   Tuesday morning maybe take hike with older ones a few miles down GC.  Drive towards Sedona, and spend night in Sedona
ē   Wednesday morning do Pink Jeep tours and maybe do some hike in Sedona. Either spend the night again in Sedona or sleep in Phoenix
ē   Thursday do day activity (Maybe Out of Africa) in Phoenix.
Plan B:
ē   Save Bryce Canyon for another trip (which who knows if it will happen) and spread the others out which would save me 5 hours of driving and make trip more relaxed overall. I'm not exactly sure what I would do a second day in GC, Sedona, (or PHX with that heat). Although my wife would probably prefer Plan A even if we did less. The week before I would hope to spend 3 days in Yosemite so that would be more "relaxed" week versus this week.

Feedback would be appreciated.

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on April 04, 2017, 08:57:27 PM
I as well was planning on making Arizona the second half of trip with family in summer. I am hoping to leave LA Sunday morning and fly out of PHX Thursday night.

ē   Drive Sunday morning towards Bryce, (maybe stopping along the way in Zion), and sleeping somewhere close to Bryce   

Plan B:
ē   Save Bryce Canyon for another trip (which who knows if it will happen) and spread the others out which would save me 5 hours of driving and make trip more relaxed overall. I'm not exactly sure what I would do a second day in GC, Sedona, (or PHX with that heat). Although my wife would probably prefer Plan A even if we did less. The week before I would hope to spend 3 days in Yosemite so that would be more "relaxed" week versus this week.

Feedback would be appreciated.
LA to Bryce is like 9 hours, plus pit stops.  I'd do Plan B.  Other things to do:  Wupatki/Walnut Canyon/Sunset Crater/Meteor Crater/Petrified Forest.  Maybe Hoover Dam on the way over?

Re: CA part of your trip, have you considered a day in Sequoia NP?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 21, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Any of the kosher places in PHX on Seamless etc?

To answer my own question, almost all of the kosher establishments in PHX are on Postmates and a couple have special deals when ordering via the app

La Bella Pizza was fantastic! 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on April 22, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
To answer my own question, almost all of the kosher establishments in PHX are on Postmates and a couple have special deals when ordering via the app

La Bella Pizza was fantastic!
I ordered directly from la bella to my hotel.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 23, 2017, 11:27:19 AM
I ordered directly from la bella to my hotel.

We called and they didnt want to deliver to Scottsdale. I guess they were very busy before Pesach
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on April 24, 2017, 06:33:56 AM
whats the current consensus on the best resort in phoenix?
looking currently at the waldorf biltmore vs Pointe Hilton Tapatio Cliffs Resort. or perhaps any other ones that are top notch
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on April 24, 2017, 09:50:37 AM
We called and they didnt want to deliver to Scottsdale. I guess they were very busy before Pesach
Yeah probably the case. I was at the sheraton villas and they delivered there without issue
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 24, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
whats the current consensus on the best resort in phoenix?
looking currently at the waldorf biltmore vs Pointe Hilton Tapatio Cliffs Resort. or perhaps any other ones that are top notch

Prob the Four Seasons
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on April 30, 2017, 05:33:11 PM
Anybody been here: Hyatt Pinon Pointe, A Hyatt Residence Club ? Is it worth staying here in Sedona?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on April 30, 2017, 06:04:28 PM
whats the current consensus on the best resort in phoenix?
looking currently at the waldorf biltmore vs Pointe Hilton Tapatio Cliffs Resort. or perhaps any other ones that are top notch

No Way Tapatio Cliffs. Biltmore if you're only looking for high end.  I actually just got back from Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak.  The decor was cheesy there but lazy river and water area are nice and only $12 uber from the airport and $5 Ubers to La Bella Pizza and 613 Grill...it was way cheaper and less annoying than renting a car and staying in Scottsdale.  Are you looking for a couple or a family? If it was a couple Biltmore is great but I wouldn't take my kids to a place that didn't have a lazy river, slides etc. when so many resorts there do have that stuff.  Squaw Peak also has included mini-golf tennis and basketball courts and the lowest room is a two room suite. It would be my first HHonors choice with kids.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on April 30, 2017, 06:41:50 PM
Tell me if I'm crazy for considering :
Leave lax Thursday night direct to Phx for shabbos.
Sunday morning Sedona and then grand canyon South rim Sunday evening /Monday.
Leave 5 or so Monday to drive back to lax.
Memorial day weekend, bunch of kids from 8 months - 11.

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chief Rabbi of New York on April 30, 2017, 07:26:06 PM
Tell me if I'm crazy for considering :
Leave lax Thursday night direct to Phx for shabbos.
Sunday morning Sedona and then grand canyon South rim Sunday evening /Monday.
Leave 5 or so Monday to drive back to lax.
Memorial day weekend, bunch of kids from 8 months - 11.



why not fly?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on April 30, 2017, 07:40:46 PM
why not fly?
To Phx? Schlepping kids and luggage and food and will take just as long
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on April 30, 2017, 08:58:09 PM
No Way Tapatio Cliffs. Biltmore if you're only looking for high end.  I actually just got back from Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak.  The decor was cheesy there but lazy river and water area are nice and only $12 uber from the airport and $5 Ubers to La Bella Pizza and 613 Grill...it was way cheaper and less annoying than renting a car and staying in Scottsdale.  Are you looking for a couple or a family? If it was a couple Biltmore is great but I wouldn't take my kids to a place that didn't have a lazy river, slides etc. when so many resorts there do have that stuff.  Squaw Peak also has included mini-golf tennis and basketball courts and the lowest room is a two room suite. It would be my first HHonors choice with kids.

Its going to be a two couple vacation
What other hotels do you recommend? Looking for something that is luxury and also has alot of pools and lazy rivers. Etc..
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on April 30, 2017, 10:21:14 PM
FYI, looks like the Phoenician is closing its pool for renovations for 6 months. Dont think it makes sense to stay there anymore...

Which is better TAPATIO CLIFFS RESORT or Squaw Peak? I want to split half my time with one of those and the other half with Biltmore
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on April 30, 2017, 10:48:04 PM
FYI, looks like the Phoenician is closing its pool for renovations for 6 months. Dont think it makes sense to stay there anymore...

Which is better TAPATIO CLIFFS RESORT or Squaw Peak? I want to split half my time with one of those and the other half with Biltmore

I haven't stayed at Tapatio Cliffs but it looks they just have regular swimming pools and it's in an out of the way location
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on April 30, 2017, 10:50:42 PM
Its going to be a two couple vacation
What other hotels do you recommend? Looking for something that is luxury and also has alot of pools and lazy rivers. Etc..

I love the JW Marriott Desert Ridge and if they are available the attached timeshare Marriott Canyon Villas is a great value and you can use all the amenities at the main hotel. Same goes for Westin Kierland and their Villas. For a couples vacation, as long as you have a rental car, either of these would be awesome.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on April 30, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
What's difference going up to GC with highway 40 - 64 or 89 ?

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 01, 2017, 08:10:26 PM
Want to split up my stay to two of these hotels. Which would you guys say is top two to stay at?

The Westin Kierland Resort & Spa
Hyatt Regency Scottsdale: Scottsdale Hotel

Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak Resort | Phoenix
Arizona Biltmore, A Waldorf Astoria Resort in Phoenix
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on May 01, 2017, 10:02:50 PM
Want to split up my stay to two of these hotels. Which would you guys say is top two to stay at?

The Westin Kierland Resort & Spa
Hyatt Regency Scottsdale: Scottsdale Hotel

Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak Resort | Phoenix
Arizona Biltmore, A Waldorf Astoria Resort in Phoenix

Westin has great pools, river, slide and also a surfing machine (although I haven't stayed at the Hyatt and maybe others prefer it) and for couples would go to the Biltmore.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 02, 2017, 10:32:05 AM
Westin has great pools, river, slide and also a surfing machine (although I haven't stayed at the Hyatt and maybe others prefer it) and for couples would go to the Biltmore.

Did you stay at the Villa or actual hotel? Which do u recommend? hotel looks like there is much more to do but villa has the bigger rooms
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on May 02, 2017, 12:58:13 PM
Did you stay at the Villa or actual hotel? Which do u recommend? hotel looks like there is much more to do but villa has the bigger rooms
Villas were very nice. We were there twice already. You can use all the facilities at the hotel. Also was less points if that's how you're going.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 02, 2017, 01:22:08 PM
Villas are not luxurious but great pools and surprisingly good service. Kids loved it!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on May 02, 2017, 04:21:48 PM
Did you stay at the Villa or actual hotel? Which do u recommend? hotel looks like there is much more to do but villa has the bigger rooms

Stayed at the Villas and Much prefered having the space and kitchen, additional pool and slide AND you get to use all the main resort amenities too!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on May 03, 2017, 10:17:58 AM
Stayed at the Villas and Much prefered having the space and kitchen, additional pool and slide AND you get to use all the main resort amenities too!
if u have kids, villas is pretty much no question for value/privacy/additional facilities (also nice sprinkler area for little kids and ping pong tables/lounges outside with fireplaces that are really nice esp on shabbos). one slight point, if u are there for shabbos and want to walk to the shul (cute place ahavas torah, all within the eruv), the resort is probably about 10 minutes closer than the Villas.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 03, 2017, 11:10:10 AM
if u have kids, villas is pretty much no question for value/privacy/additional facilities (also nice sprinkler area for little kids and ping pong tables/lounges outside with fireplaces that are really nice esp on shabbos). one slight point, if u are there for shabbos and want to walk to the shul (cute place ahavas torah, all within the eruv), the resort is probably about 10 minutes closer than the Villas.

I didn't think the walk was too bad from the Villas. Pretty flat and straightforward
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 07, 2017, 04:44:48 PM
Planning on going to Arizona in June with the wife for 4 days. Would like to go ATV or Jeeping, Hike Grand Canyon or White water rafting or horseback riding.
Is Scottsdale the best place to stay or is it worth staying in Sedona. How far is kosher food from Sedona? Any help would be appreciated .

Thanks
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on May 07, 2017, 11:12:07 PM
Planning on going to Arizona in June with the wife for 4 days. Would like to go ATV or Jeeping, Hike Grand Canyon or White water rafting or horseback riding.
Is Scottsdale the best place to stay or is it worth staying in Sedona. How far is kosher food from Sedona? Any help would be appreciated .

Thanks
i would imagine the closest kosher food is in The Phoenix Scottsdale area. A solidly long drive
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on May 07, 2017, 11:39:36 PM
Planning on going to Arizona in June with the wife for 4 days. Would like to go ATV or Jeeping, Hike Grand Canyon or White water rafting or horseback riding.
Is Scottsdale the best place to stay or is it worth staying in Sedona. How far is kosher food from Sedona? Any help would be appreciated .

Thanks
I'd stay in Sedona or Flagstaff.  You may be able to get some kosher food in Flagstaff:  http://www.jewishflagstaff.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/412988
But call in advance.  We didn't have success either time we were in Flagstaff.

The weather is better here than Scottsdale, Broken Arrow Rd (do Pink Jeep Tour) by Sedona, and closer to Grand Canyon.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 08, 2017, 05:31:11 PM
I'm not that worried about food as I'm going during the week and from what I see there's plenty of food establishments in Scottsdale/Phoenix area so I guess I would stay in the Phoenician.
I do however want to go to the GC for one day. Are there any affordable GC tours from Scottsdale? it seems like all the affordable tours are bus driven and are 14 hours long. Is it worth it?
I narrowed it down to 2 activities we want to do - GC & ATV. The rest of the time would be just to relax.
Any recommendations?

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on May 08, 2017, 06:52:11 PM
I'm not that worried about food as I'm going during the week and from what I see there's plenty of food establishments in Scottsdale/Phoenix area so I guess I would stay in the Phoenician.
I do however want to go to the GC for one day. Are there any affordable GC tours from Scottsdale? it seems like all the affordable tours are bus driven and are 14 hours long. Is it worth it?
I narrowed it down to 2 activities we want to do - GC & ATV. The rest of the time would be just to relax.
Any recommendations?
why not rent a car and drive to GC?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on May 08, 2017, 06:56:32 PM
I'm not that worried about food as I'm going during the week and from what I see there's plenty of food establishments in Scottsdale/Phoenix area so I guess I would stay in the Phoenician.
I do however want to go to the GC for one day. Are there any affordable GC tours from Scottsdale? it seems like all the affordable tours are bus driven and are 14 hours long. Is it worth it?
I narrowed it down to 2 activities we want to do - GC & ATV. The rest of the time would be just to relax.
Any recommendations?
Phoenician is going through renovations now so that is not a good option
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 08, 2017, 07:29:36 PM
I am renting a car but I don't want to drive 4 hours each way!

The Phoenician is accommodating for the renovations. I don't are about the lobby being renovated. The spa & pool are being moved so we would have that either way. Do you have any other suggestions as far as hotels?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 08, 2017, 07:34:30 PM
I am renting a car but I don't want to drive 4 hours each way!

The Phoenician is accommodating for the renovations. I don't are about the lobby being renovated. The spa & pool are being moved so we would have that either way. Do you have any other suggestions as far as hotels?

I called them, they are only having a lap pool compared to the 7 pools they normally have. That's a deal breaker for me
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 08, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
I called them, they are only having a lap pool compared to the 7 pools they normally have. That's a deal breaker for me

So where will you be staying? Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on May 08, 2017, 08:41:51 PM
I do however want to go to the GC for one day. Are there any affordable GC tours from Scottsdale? it seems like all the affordable tours are bus driven and are 14 hours long. Is it worth it?
i went with my family on this train (still had to drive a few hours and park by the train and drive home later), and we loved it. though it isnt cheap its reasonable. https://www.thetrain.com/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 08, 2017, 08:43:07 PM
So where will you be staying? Any other suggestions?

Splitting my time between Westin Scottsdale and Biltmore
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 08, 2017, 10:22:38 PM
Splitting my time between Westin Scottsdale and Biltmore

Westin Resort or Villas?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 08, 2017, 10:34:57 PM
Westin Resort or Villas?

Looking into the Biltmore now, I'm only a HH Gold member. Do they include breakfast for gold members? How are they with upgrades?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on May 08, 2017, 11:38:59 PM
Looking into the Biltmore now, I'm only a HH Gold member. Do they include breakfast for gold members? How are they with upgrades?

I'm believe they do give breakfast and it's hit or miss with the upgrades...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on May 08, 2017, 11:41:46 PM
i went with my family on this train (still had to drive a few hours and park by the train and drive home later), and we loved it. though it isnt cheap its reasonable. https://www.thetrain.com/

How old are your kids?  I've thought about doing this train literally every time I've gone with family to Phoenix (we've been 5+ times) and it just seemed too long for the kids (same reason we didn't do the GC at all).  I'd love to hear a mini-TR from you.  What did you do for food?  That was also one of my worries with the train and staying overnight.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 09, 2017, 06:34:56 AM
I'm believe they do give breakfast and it's hit or miss with the upgrades...

Can anyone else confirm that? I am going there and I am gold, but havent read any reports about breakfast...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 09, 2017, 06:35:22 AM
Westin Resort or Villas?

Resort for now. Villas were double the price. But i might switch if Villa price drops
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 09, 2017, 07:28:41 AM
I called them, they are only having a lap pool compared to the 7 pools they normally have. That's a deal breaker for me
+1
Definitely a deal breaker. Their pools are amazing and completely empty during the very hot summer days.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 09, 2017, 09:45:29 AM
Can anyone else confirm that? I am going there and I am gold, but havent read any reports about breakfast...

I called and they said that Gold does not get breakfast but sometimes they would give it to you at check in
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on May 09, 2017, 01:44:10 PM
Looking into the Biltmore now, I'm only a HH Gold member. Do they include breakfast for gold members? How are they with upgrades?

Honestly I've never stayed at the Biltmore because I've always gotten such good deals at the Pointe Hilton Squaw peak and it is a 5min and $4 uber ride from La Bella Pizza and 613 Grill.  I love also that at this property they give you two $10 certs per day instead of free breakfast and all rooms are suites.  It's a bit old and dated but I love the lazy river and pool.  Also, free mini-golf and other activities for kids if you are coming as a family (Biltmore seems MUCH more high-end and great for a couple).  Because of the certs we bought tons of snacks are their market and ordered drinks for free by the pool.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 09, 2017, 07:40:37 PM
So whats the best way to see/get to the GC?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 09, 2017, 07:41:43 PM
I called and they said that Gold does not get breakfast but sometimes they would give it to you at check in

Under what circumstances?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 09, 2017, 09:42:47 PM
Under what circumstances?

Ask nicely :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 09, 2017, 10:29:17 PM
Anyone ever stay here? Hyatt Residence Club Sedona, PiŮon Pointe
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on May 09, 2017, 11:32:16 PM
Anyone ever stay here? Hyatt Residence Club Sedona, PiŮon Pointe
I might stay there for a night
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 10, 2017, 08:42:28 PM
Splitting my time between Westin Scottsdale and Biltmore

Are you going to the GC?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on May 10, 2017, 09:31:13 PM
Are you going to the GC?
That's the plan
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 10, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
That's the plan

How? Bus? Driving yourself? Train?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on May 11, 2017, 10:42:20 AM
How? Bus? Driving yourself? Train?
Driving myself
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 11, 2017, 08:32:02 PM
Driving myself

Any suggestions on where to go once you get there?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: nis965 on May 11, 2017, 09:03:15 PM
Anyone ever stay here? Hyatt Residence Club Sedona, PiŮon Pointe
I stayed there for one night on my way back from GC to Scottsdale. They upgraded me to a suite with a Jacuzzi. I arrived when it was dark and took a Pink Jeep tour in the morning so I didn't explore the property. The rooms were large and very clean. I enjoyed my stay.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 11, 2017, 10:14:18 PM
Anyone know where the best place to go ATV?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on May 11, 2017, 11:22:51 PM
Anyone know where the best place to go ATV?
pink jeep definitely has the best reputation. I have no personal experience
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 12, 2017, 02:10:16 AM
pink jeep definitely has the best reputation. I have no personal experience
Pink jeep. Bloody expensive, but well worth it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on May 12, 2017, 09:06:21 AM
pink jeep definitely has the best reputation. I have no personal experience
Was great.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on May 12, 2017, 11:41:53 AM
Anybody used Red Rock Jeep Tours?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 12, 2017, 12:55:29 PM
Pink jeep. Bloody expensive, but well worth it.

Thats for jeeping. I would like to go ATV
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on May 12, 2017, 04:10:49 PM
Thats for jeeping. I would like to go ATV
Dunno about that....however I thought it would be stupid for adults. It was amazing.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 14, 2017, 09:35:09 AM
anyone use a corporate code for the biltmore before? did they give any issues for not providing Id?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 16, 2017, 08:29:33 PM
anyone been to the ocatilla lounge at the biltmore? How was the continental breakfast?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Saver on May 21, 2017, 01:16:46 AM
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone is planning to go to the Grand Canyon (or Sedona) the shabbos of July1?

On a different note, any suggestions of cheaper pricing for Shabbos in Flagstaff?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 23, 2017, 04:33:27 PM
Anyone ever stay at the Omni Scottsdale?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 25, 2017, 05:53:38 PM
Going to Scottsdale for Shavout and Phoenix for Shaabat.

Any ideas where i can either pickup take out for the meals or any restaurants that i can sit down for shavour/shaabat meals?
I got a villa with a kitchen so i also wouldnt mind picking up food before and heating it up in my kitchen
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on May 25, 2017, 09:09:54 PM
Going to Scottsdale for Shavout and Phoenix for Shaabat.

Any ideas where i can either pickup take out for the meals or any restaurants that i can sit down for shavour/shaabat meals?
I got a villa with a kitchen so i also wouldnt mind picking up food before and heating it up in my kitchen
We loved Kitchen18 in Scottsdale.  I'm having trouble accessing their website, so cant tell you the Shavuos situation.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on May 25, 2017, 10:36:17 PM
We loved Kitchen18 in Scottsdale.  I'm having trouble accessing their website, so cant tell you the Shavuos situation.
+1 kitchen18 was very good and very large portions.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 25, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
+1 kitchen18 was very good and very large portions.

for shaabat and holiday take out?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on May 26, 2017, 05:15:37 PM
Didnt try shabbat food but overall everything was very very good especially considering its an " out of town" establishment.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 28, 2017, 08:42:59 AM
those who stayed at the westin kierland resort or villa, did you rent a car at the airport enterprise and be able to return it to the location by their resort?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on May 28, 2017, 11:57:09 AM
Looking for a good vacation at end of aug for family with 4 young kids. Is it too hot to be shayach?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on May 28, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
Looking for a good vacation at end of aug for family with 4 young kids. Is it too hot to be shayach?

Other people have said it was fine.  I personally couldn't handle it.  Especially with 4 young kids...can you watch them all in the pool at once?  That would be the fun thing to do there during the day.  If your car is parked uncovered anywhere they could burn themselves on the seats every time you get in the car....if you haven't experienced heat like this, it's a whole different world.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on May 28, 2017, 03:57:03 PM
Looking for a good vacation at end of aug for family with 4 young kids. Is it too hot to be shayach?
Depends what you have in mind.  Phoenix area IS way too hot.  Too hot for pool, even, IMO; I couldn't handle it past 9 or 10 am.  But go up north toward Flagstaff and Grand Canyon and it's not too bad that time of year.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 30, 2017, 01:20:40 PM
Im in scottsdale now and want to go ATV/UTV . Can anyone recommend a guided tour that they went on?

How about ATV vs Jeeping? I heard the ATV isnt able to go everywhere, but i feel like i would rather drive my own vehicle than sit in a jeep

http://www.arizonaatvadventures.com/sedona-atv-tours/
I found that one, anyone try it?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on May 30, 2017, 06:08:55 PM
Im in scottsdale now and want to go ATV/UTV . Can anyone recommend a guided tour that they went on?

How about ATV vs Jeeping? I heard the ATV isnt able to go everywhere, but i feel like i would rather drive my own vehicle than sit in a jeep

http://www.arizonaatvadventures.com/sedona-atv-tours/
I found that one, anyone try it?

I'm looking into this place - http://www.westernoffroad.net/home.html and this - http://stellaradventures.com/
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on May 30, 2017, 09:03:56 PM
I'm looking into this place - http://www.westernoffroad.net/home.html and this - http://stellaradventures.com/

we just decided to go with Pink Jeep
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chaimk90 on June 04, 2017, 06:27:13 AM
I am heading to Scottsdale now for 3 or 4 days( wife wants to leave Tuesday midnight , I want Wednesday midnight).  Can someone please give me some info on a good ATV place?
Is it worth it to take one day and drive to Sedona & then the Grand Canyon? Feels like it would be a looong day. If it's worth it I'm up for it.
Appreciate any insight  thanks
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on June 04, 2017, 09:04:12 AM
Go to the Grand Canyon. You really don't have time to do anything worthwhile in Sedona.  (Unless you skip the Grand Canyon)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Chaimk90 on June 04, 2017, 11:57:00 AM
Go to the Grand Canyon. You really don't have time to do anything worthwhile in Sedona.  (Unless you skip the Grand Canyon)
Isn't Sedona on the way to the Grand Canyon from Scottsdale?  If I'm only going 3 days total.... do I spend a full day driving up and then back down from the Grand Canyon.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on June 04, 2017, 03:44:57 PM
I thought you only wanted to do a one day trip.  If you can stay overnight then I would recommend driving straight to Grand Canyon and staying overnight there.  stopping in Sedona if you have time on the way back.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on June 04, 2017, 06:23:19 PM
Segal oasis or 613 grill for last day in Phoenix?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on June 04, 2017, 06:42:46 PM
Segal oasis or 613 grill for last day in Phoenix?

I'd probably do 613 grill as a nice ambience and Segal's is hit or miss BUT it does have a much larger menu and good Chinese...if you're not set on meat, I'd choose La Bella over both.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on June 04, 2017, 10:09:00 PM
Segal oasis or 613 grill for last day in Phoenix?
How was the drive to the grand canyon?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on June 05, 2017, 12:39:38 AM
How was the drive to the grand canyon?

Long. Should def do it after you go to Sedona. There is a Hyatt in Sedona you can stay for the night.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on June 05, 2017, 07:14:50 PM
Long. Should def do it after you go to Sedona. There is a Hyatt in Sedona you can stay for the night.
I plan on driving from Scottsdale to the GC and stopping in Sedona for an hour or so on the way back the same day. Any tips on where to go at the GC or Sedona?
 How was the Biltmore?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on June 05, 2017, 07:42:01 PM
Download the pocket map from the official site and familiarize yourself with the rim and the bus routes.    There are two entrances to the Grand Canyon Southrim.  For a one-day back and forth I would suggest coming in on the south entrance which is faster but skips a lot of the viewing points to the east   

My recommendation for a one day visit would be park at bright angel and take the bus to Mohave point.  Walk back to Powell point  (you will have a very nice view along the way and it's a good view of the colarado river below) from Powell point take the bus back to bright angel. .  Then drive to visitors center and check out Mather point which is very popular.  If you have enough time take the bus from the visitors center to the south Kaibab  trail and walk down to ooh ah point. It is about 20 minutes down and about 35 minutes back up for the average out of shape guy.  If you do hike down make sure you take some water with you and sunscreen if it is sunny. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on June 05, 2017, 08:18:39 PM
I plan on driving from Scottsdale to the GC and stopping in Sedona for an hour or so on the way back the same day. Any tips on where to go at the GC or Sedona?
 How was the Biltmore?

Pink Jeep for Sedona.

Biltmore was amazing. Wasnt even able to see 20% of the resort since it was so big
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on June 05, 2017, 08:19:20 PM
I'd probably do 613 grill as a nice ambience and Segal's is hit or miss BUT it does have a much larger menu and good Chinese...if you're not set on meat, I'd choose La Bella over both.

Ended up doing 613.
Food was good but was very turned off that they charge a credit card fee. Never had that happen at a restaurant
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on June 05, 2017, 08:24:32 PM
Ended up doing 613.
Food was good but was very turned off that they charge a credit card fee. Never had that happen at a restaurant

That is crazy! Especially since the place isn't cheap...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on June 05, 2017, 10:04:43 PM
Pink Jeep for Sedona.

Biltmore was amazing. Wasnt even able to see 20% of the resort since it was so big
Did you get upgraded?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on June 05, 2017, 10:09:23 PM
Download the pocket map from the official site and familiarize yourself with the rim and the bus routes.    There are two entrances to the Grand Canyon Southrim.  For a one-day back and forth I would suggest coming in on the south entrance which is faster but skips a lot of the viewing points to the east   

My recommendation for a one day visit would be park at bright angel and take the bus to Mohave point.  Walk back to Powell point  (you will have a very nice view along the way and it's a good view of the colarado river below) from Powell point take the bus back to bright angel. .  Then drive to visitors center and check out Mather point which is very popular.  If you have enough time take the bus from the visitors center to the south Kaibab  trail and walk down to ooh ah point. It is about 20 minutes down and about 35 minutes back up for the average out of shape guy.  If you do hike down make sure you take some water with you and sunscreen if it is sunny. 

Good stuff! Thanks for the itinerary.
 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on June 05, 2017, 10:18:39 PM
Did you get upgraded?

Yes to a Grand Suite
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yoko on June 05, 2017, 10:26:12 PM
Yes to a Grand Suite
How?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: zagguru on June 05, 2017, 10:27:58 PM
How?

Just have to be nice at check in. Was gold member so maybe they were a bit nicer.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 06, 2017, 03:26:58 PM
How was the drive to the grand canyon?
i stayed overnight in Flagstaff and then drove back straight to phoenix the next day. i think that was about 3 hours
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 11, 2017, 05:46:37 PM
HI! Just wondering if anyone can advise us.
We are iyh going in the beginning of July from Vail, colorado to Moab Utah (we are stopping at Arches National canyon) and then need to stay somewhere for the night that is in between Moab and Flagstaff.
Any suggestion of where to stay between Moab and Flagstaff and anything that we should stop on the way to see that is not out of the way?
On Friday, we are iyh driving from that location to Flagstaff for Shabbos, we are staying in Flagstaff.
Sunday, we are iyh driving to the Grand Canyon and back to Flagstaff
Monday we are possibly going to Sedona and then heading back.  (Some of the people of our family are flying out of Flagstaff on Monday.)
Any suggestions of where to stop on the way (must see without adding extra time to our trip?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on June 11, 2017, 06:19:39 PM
Download the pocket map from the official site and familiarize yourself with the rim and the bus routes.    There are two entrances to the Grand Canyon Southrim.  For a one-day back and forth I would suggest coming in on the south entrance which is faster but skips a lot of the viewing points to the east   

My recommendation for a one day visit would be park at bright angel and take the bus to Mohave point.  Walk back to Powell point  (you will have a very nice view along the way and it's a good view of the colarado river below) from Powell point take the bus back to bright angel. .  Then drive to visitors center and check out Mather point which is very popular.  If you have enough time take the bus from the visitors center to the south Kaibab  trail and walk down to ooh ah point. It is about 20 minutes down and about 35 minutes back up for the average out of shape guy.  If you do hike down make sure you take some water with you and sunscreen if it is sunny.
Thank you! We're planning on landing in PHX about 11, renting a car and driving straight. (stop for pizza?) catch some viewpoints, sunset stay overnight in holiday Inn GC, and then need to be back in PHX by 6 pm the next day . Same itinerary recommended?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 11, 2017, 06:49:13 PM
Does anyone know of a professional photographer that we could take to take pictures of our family in Grand Canyon or in Moab Utah? (or in Flagstaff Arizona) we would just want a half hour session with a great background.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on June 11, 2017, 07:50:39 PM
Thank you! We're planning on landing in PHX about 11, renting a car and driving straight. (stop for pizza?) catch some viewpoints, sunset stay overnight in holiday Inn GC, and then need to be back in PHX by 6 pm the next day . Same itinerary recommended?

Pretty much the same I really enjoyed ooh ah  point at sunrise and recommend that you do that in the morning if you can. one or two hours after sunrise would also be good. for sunsets mathis point should be very nice.

 If you have time when leaving you can leave through the east entrance and see the view points along the way. that will add some time to your trip.

 Make sure you download and study the packet map before hand  it has almost all the information you will need

If you plan on stopping for pizza or sandwiches in Phoenix you can call the shop once you leave the airport and hopefully it will be ready when you get there
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on June 14, 2017, 03:09:40 PM
Short TR- Davidmal's Phoenix & Scottsdale for 5 Hours
I was delayed on my flight to PHX and so ended up with 6+ hours in PHX

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I decided to go for a swim being that it was 103 degrees outside
I went to the W hotel since I was a Platinum Member I figured I could work it out and went for a quick swim and watched the finals by the bar.
then off to
Kitchen 18 which was so good and they pray next door at chabad
then back to the airport .
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I forgot to take a photo of this Burger
I got this one from Google of their SW Burger.

If you get it listen to me carefully.
SOUTHWEST BURGER
Ranch & Spicy Sauce.
I think it was their Spicy chili sauce It was so spicy that I couldn't handle more than a spoon on my burger.
It was so good and apropos South West I told them they need to only serve it that way.
Hopefully they listened.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on June 14, 2017, 05:53:39 PM
I miss kitchen 18, and i live in NYC. that place is such a great value.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on June 25, 2017, 01:46:25 AM
My TR, thanks all for the help
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=80670.0
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 26, 2017, 02:46:14 PM
I hope to make Arizona Part 2 of a 12 day trip next summer. I know some of the Yosemite/Grand Canyon lodgings for families book early so trying to plan ahead. Hope to be spending week 1 in SFO/Yosemite and spending Shabbos in Los Angeles. I will have several kids in tow but older ones to assist as well.

I was thinking that we would drive to Grand Canyon leaving LA on Sunday morning and sleeping in hotel by Grand Canyon Sunday night. We would try to make sunset and if we have more time do some of the viewpoints. What we don't have time for we can do first thing Monday. Anything else worth stopping at while I'm there (besides Imax)?

Monday late morning we would probably head out towards Sedona, taking the scenic route with maybe taking short hike end of day. Find some sort of VRBO rental home.

Tuesday maybe do Pink Jeep tour. What else? How much hiking can we do already in 100 degree weather with a bunch of kids?

Wednesday drive to PHX, do day activity (open for ideas), maybe get a good meal and probably take red eye out Wednesday night.  I know heat can be oppressive.

I would appreciate any suggestions, input or critique.

Thank you

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on June 26, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
I hope to make Arizona Part 2 of a 12 day trip next summer. I know some of the Yosemite/Grand Canyon lodgings for families book early so trying to plan ahead. Hope to be spending week 1 in SFO/Yosemite and spending Shabbos in Los Angeles. I will have several kids in tow but older ones to assist as well.

I was thinking that we would drive to Grand Canyon leaving LA on Sunday morning and sleeping in hotel by Grand Canyon Sunday night. We would try to make sunset and if we have more time do some of the viewpoints. What we don't have time for we can do first thing Monday. Anything else worth stopping at while I'm there (besides Imax)?

Monday late morning we would probably head out towards Sedona, taking the scenic route with maybe taking short hike end of day. Find some sort of VRBO rental home.

Tuesday maybe do Pink Jeep tour. What else? How much hiking can we do already in 100 degree weather with a bunch of kids?

Wednesday drive to PHX, do day activity (open for ideas), maybe get a good meal and probably take red eye out Wednesday night.  I know heat can be oppressive.

I would appreciate any suggestions, input or critique.

Thank you

1) Go earlier in the summer if possible. more hiking and jeeping possibilities
2) You're doing a lot of extra driving. I would hit all your stops by doing LAX-SFO-FAT/MMH/MPI - GCN-PHX
3) I think it's impossible to drive from LAX to GCN with a van full of kids and get there in time to enjoy sunset.
4) Sedona has gorgeous resorts

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgoldhammer18 on June 28, 2017, 09:51:28 PM
Sedona or Scottsdale December January time?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgoldhammer18 on June 30, 2017, 06:38:04 AM
Sedona or Scottsdale December January time?


Please, not all at once
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on July 03, 2017, 02:21:49 AM
Sedona or Scottsdale December January time?
http://www.dreamsedona.com/visiting-sedona-during-the-winter.html https://www.buzzfeed.com/scottsdale/a-scottsdale-winter-is-better-than-yours?utm_term=.lmXRmEbG5#.up2v3EZdm
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 20, 2017, 11:59:19 AM
Going for a week vacation with 6 year old and an infant. Is there enough to keep busy with in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area without going to Sedona, Grand Canyon or any other places more than an hour away? (My wife and I visited Sedona and GC already)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on July 21, 2017, 12:18:36 AM
Going for a week vacation with 6 year old and an infant. Is there enough to keep busy with in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area without going to Sedona, Grand Canyon or any other places more than an hour away? (My wife and I visited Sedona and GC already)
you or the kid?
Like any big city of you want you can find a million things to do but mostly not things that can't be done at home.
You can go fruit picking if that's your thing. There are a bunch of citrus farms not too far out and have some really good fruit. There is the science museum. Etc. Etc.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 21, 2017, 12:27:23 AM
you or the kid?
Like any big city of you want you can find a million things to do but mostly not things that can't be done at home.
You can go fruit picking if that's your thing. There are a bunch of citrus farms not too far out and have some really good fruit. There is the science museum. Etc. Etc.
Thanks. Looks like citrus picking would be out of season (we'd come beginning of September).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on July 21, 2017, 05:24:25 AM
Going for a week vacation with 6 year old and an infant. Is there enough to keep busy with in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area without going to Sedona, Grand Canyon or any other places more than an hour away? (My wife and I visited Sedona and GC already)
Some of the things on this list look like fun:
https://mommypoppins.com/kids/25-things-to-do-in-scottsdale-with-kids
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 21, 2017, 10:58:00 AM
Some of the things on this list look like fun:
https://mommypoppins.com/kids/25-things-to-do-in-scottsdale-with-kids

Nice, thanks
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: MamaRochel on July 27, 2017, 06:21:43 PM
Did anyone go to the Phonecian recently? They are under renovation. I was thinking to do two nights in a standard room and one night in a suite with plunge pool. Just not sure if it's enjoyable to be there during renovation...
Any reviews on the Four Seasons?  or the Biltmore?
Thank you!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on July 27, 2017, 09:25:47 PM
Did anyone go to the Phonecian recently? They are under renovation. I was thinking to do two nights in a standard room and one night in a suite with plunge pool. Just not sure if it's enjoyable to be there during renovation...
Any reviews on the Four Seasons?  or the Biltmore?
Thank you!
Or stay in a canyon suite. I believe the pool there is open during renovations.   One caveat: everyone else will be at that pool, too.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: MamaRochel on July 30, 2017, 07:54:57 AM
Thanks! Canyon Suites was more. I'm going to go to the Biltmore.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on August 07, 2017, 12:15:48 PM
Can anyone recommend easy hikes around the grand canyon? I'll be there with 4 kids ages 9, 8, 6 and 4. Nothing too strenuous or too long (1-2 hours max)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on August 07, 2017, 12:22:50 PM
Can anyone recommend easy hikes around the grand canyon? I'll be there with 4 kids ages 9, 8, 6 and 4. Nothing too strenuous or too long (1-2 hours max)
I did a very similar trip, but it was 110 degrees, so we pretty much drove to the various lookouts
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on August 07, 2017, 12:23:46 PM
I did a very similar trip, but it was 110 degrees, so we pretty much drove to the various lookouts

I'll be there in January so it will be cold! I wouldn't hike in 110 degree weather either.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 07, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
Can anyone recommend easy hikes around the grand canyon? I'll be there with 4 kids ages 9, 8, 6 and 4. Nothing too strenuous or too long (1-2 hours max)
Do the rim trail. I would also start one of the other trails (e.g. Bright angel) and just go as far you can (provided is not icy). Cool to get a perspective from inside the canyon.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on August 07, 2017, 12:43:39 PM
Do the rim trail. I would also start one of the other trails (e.g. Bright angel) and just go as far you can (provided is not icy). Cool to get a perspective from inside the canyon.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on August 21, 2017, 11:40:52 PM
Will be in Arizona in August:

Is it doable traveling with kids (youngest 3) for a day trip from scottsdale-Sedona-Grand canyon and back in one day or am is it way too much?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on August 22, 2017, 02:14:47 AM
Will be in Arizona in August:

Is it doable traveling with kids (youngest 3) for a day trip from scottsdale-Sedona-Grand canyon and back in one day or am is it way too much?
I would try overnight, but doable if you leave early. Did something similar http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=80670.0
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: superstareli55 on September 27, 2017, 05:45:36 PM
Planning a 4 day trip...input would be great!
Day 1 flying into Las vegas
Day 2 driving to grand canyon sleeping in sedona
day 3 sedona with possibility of sleeping in phoniex
day 4 phoinex/vegas


do i need a full day at grand canyon or can i do that and sedona in a day?
is phoinex a waste?
is there kosher food @ or near grancanyon

thanx in advance for your help
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on September 27, 2017, 07:02:45 PM
Planning a 4 day trip...input would be great!
Day 1 flying into Las vegas
Day 2 driving to grand canyon sleeping in sedona
day 3 sedona with possibility of sleeping in phoniex
day 4 phoinex/vegas


do i need a full day at grand canyon or can i do that and sedona in a day?
is phoinex a waste?
is there kosher food @ or near grancanyon

thanx in advance for your help
do i need a full day at grand canyon or can i do that and sedona in a day? - you should really do a hike at the grand canyon. If you skip on that you can extremely rushedly do both

No food anywhere near the canyon
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on October 02, 2017, 11:17:11 PM
Anyone stay at the Fairmont ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on October 03, 2017, 03:57:48 PM
Depending on where you are going in the grand canyon (North Rim / South Rim) - Day 2 is lot of driving.

Planning a 4 day trip...input would be great!
Day 1 flying into Las vegas
Day 2 driving to grand canyon sleeping in sedona
day 3 sedona with possibility of sleeping in phoniex
day 4 phoinex/vegas


do i need a full day at grand canyon or can i do that and sedona in a day?
is phoinex a waste?
is there kosher food @ or near grancanyon

thanx in advance for your help
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: nucheiner on October 04, 2017, 01:13:47 AM
Lake Powell & Zion Trip Report - Quick 4 day trip

Flew NYC straight to Lake Powell which is in Page,AZ
EWR-PHX-PGA

Returned from St George, UT, SGU-DEN-EWR on United miles

Ewr to Phx using United Miles
UR points to book Great Lakes Airlines PHX to PGA.
(Yes slight risk flying connecting on two separate itineraries, but Great Lakes has multiple flights per day)
(Flying AA would've required a terminal change)

Got into Phoenix about 8am and went to United Club which happened to be directly opposite Great Lakes gate.

Great Lakes is a tiny little plane 1-1 configuration, no cockpit, restroom etc

Got into page about 12 noon. It isn't simple to get a one way rental out of Page. There is only an Avis in Page which is a franchise. However Paul is very helpful in getting you into Corporate vehicles which need to get back to to the bigger airports regardless. (I'm not sure what would happen if you take a franchise vehicle and drop it off in PHX)
Avis is closed on Sunday but he left us the keys with the Airline. (Actually rented 2 days locally, and then 1 day on a one-way to $ave a couple bucks.)

Stayed at the Courtyard in Page which was very fair. Checked in early so took a room without great view rather then wait. There's a Walmart there and all.

Went to Horseshoe Bend. Gorgeous! Short easy but very sunny hike up to the viewpoint. Later in the afternoon walked down to The Chains. Thanks to ddfer who TR about this. It's basically a place to climb down into the Lake.

Monday: Took out a boat on Lake Powell. There are many other marinas to rent from other then the ones on the water. Google them. We booked late so we ended up with a pontoon from Carls Marina. Costs about 380 plus fuel but included delivery and haul out from the lake. Definitely easier to Beach a pontoon. Spent a full day riding around, parked on the beach, and we also hooked up a tube as well.
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A DAY ON LAKE POWELL

TUES: Antelope Canyons in the morning. We didn't do the actual Antelope Canyons. We did the Canyon X, but supposedly its the same. It's a must do, yes those pix are real! Though the camera settings definitely help. Going in the morning is the way to go, avoids crowds and the sweltering heat.

Checked out and drove 1.5 hrs to Zion National Park. Thanks to another Ddf TR we biked it. There are other bike rental places in Springdale, but it's a lot easier to rent from the location at the entrance to the park as it's not significantly more expensive. We started biking down about 1.5 hrs b4 sundown. Weather was amazing and the sights even more amazing the road is so quiet and serene. Definitely an unbelievable way to experience one of the best national parks.

Stayed at the Springhill Suites in Springdale. Pretty much brand new. The place could almost qualify as a Ritz. Got Gold upgraded to a Suite.

WED went back into zion for a quick hike. Headed out about noon to SGU Airport in St George, UT. Connected through DEN. Called in an order to East Side Kosher Deli in Denver and sent an Uber to fetch it, tx amex credits!

Short but unbelievable!
   
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on October 11, 2017, 01:42:57 PM
Looking for a vacation house for a weekend in December.

Some Specs it would need to have:

7+ bedrooms 4+ bathrooms
Clean
Walkable to a shul (less than 20 minutes)
Pool

It does not need to be kosher. The bigger the better.

Please let me know if any one has any suggestions on how to find such a place (specific rental that someone has used in the past, an exact area to search on VRBO, or a vacation company that can help).

TIA
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on October 11, 2017, 11:00:34 PM
Lake Powell & Zion Trip Report - Quick 4 day trip

Flew NYC straight to Lake Powell which is in Page,AZ
EWR-PHX-PGA

Returned from St George, UT, SGU-DEN-EWR on United miles

Ewr to Phx using United Miles
UR points to book Great Lakes Airlines PHX to PGA.
(Yes slight risk flying connecting on two separate itineraries, but Great Lakes has multiple flights per day)
(Flying AA would've required a terminal change)

Got into Phoenix about 8am and went to United Club which happened to be directly opposite Great Lakes gate.

Great Lakes is a tiny little plane 1-1 configuration, no cockpit, restroom etc

Got into page about 12 noon. It isn't simple to get a one way rental out of Page. There is only an Avis in Page which is a franchise. However Paul is very helpful in getting you into Corporate vehicles which need to get back to to the bigger airports regardless. (I'm not sure what would happen if you take a franchise vehicle and drop it off in PHX)
Avis is closed on Sunday but he left us the keys with the Airline. (Actually rented 2 days locally, and then 1 day on a one-way to $ave a couple bucks.)

Stayed at the Courtyard in Page which was very fair. Checked in early so took a room without great view rather then wait. There's a Walmart there and all.

Went to Horseshoe Bend. Gorgeous! Short easy but very sunny hike up to the viewpoint. Later in the afternoon walked down to The Chains. Thanks to ddfer who TR about this. It's basically a place to climb down into the Lake.

Monday: Took out a boat on Lake Powell. There are many other marinas to rent from other then the ones on the water. Google them. We booked late so we ended up with a pontoon from Carls Marina. Costs about 380 plus fuel but included delivery and haul out from the lake. Definitely easier to Beach a pontoon. Spent a full day riding around, parked on the beach, and we also hooked up a tube as well.
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE A DAY ON LAKE POWELL

TUES: Antelope Canyons in the morning. We didn't do the actual Antelope Canyons. We did the Canyon X, but supposedly its the same. It's a must do, yes those pix are real! Though the camera settings definitely help. Going in the morning is the way to go, avoids crowds and the sweltering heat.

Checked out and drove 1.5 hrs to Zion National Park. Thanks to another Ddf TR we biked it. There are other bike rental places in Springdale, but it's a lot easier to rent from the location at the entrance to the park as it's not significantly more expensive. We started biking down about 1.5 hrs b4 sundown. Weather was amazing and the sights even more amazing the road is so quiet and serene. Definitely an unbelievable way to experience one of the best national parks.

Stayed at the Springhill Suites in Springdale. Pretty much brand new. The place could almost qualify as a Ritz. Got Gold upgraded to a Suite.

WED went back into zion for a quick hike. Headed out about noon to SGU Airport in St George, UT. Connected through DEN. Called in an order to East Side Kosher Deli in Denver and sent an Uber to fetch it, tx amex credits!

Short but unbelievable!
   
Nice.!!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: DXD on January 01, 2018, 12:09:10 PM
Any suggestions on where to spend shabbos in AZ? Preferably in the PHX area.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on January 02, 2018, 11:38:50 PM
Is the end of January a decent time to travel to the Grand Canyon and Phoenix areas? Is the weather okay then?? Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 03, 2018, 12:30:31 AM
Is the end of January a decent time to travel to the Grand Canyon and Phoenix areas? Is the weather okay then?? Thanks!
grand canyon will be quite cool and phoenix can be very nice then but not always guaranteed. I went last year that time and the weather was beautiful. The week before I was there, I was told, was "frigid" ( on PHX standards of course).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dovdovmoneytree on January 03, 2018, 02:20:18 PM
grand canyon will be quite cool and phoenix can be very nice then but not always guaranteed. I went last year that time and the weather was beautiful. The week before I was there, I was told, was "frigid" ( on PHX standards of course).

Thank you!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on January 25, 2018, 09:34:58 PM
I'll be at the Grand Canyon with the family next week. We have several young children, so hiking is out. We're traveling in from Flagstaff for a day trip. Can anyone recommend a route, listing the various places we should stop and have great views? Is the glass Skywalk worth the visit? Anything else we should do in the area?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on January 28, 2018, 03:41:29 AM
Any suggestions on where to spend shabbos in AZ? Preferably in the PHX area.
kierland villas is about a 45 minute nice walk to shul, but they have kitchens etc and are pretty good value.

I'll be at the Grand Canyon with the family next week. We have several young children, so hiking is out. We're traveling in from Flagstaff for a day trip. Can anyone recommend a route, listing the various places we should stop and have great views? Is the glass Skywalk worth the visit? Anything else we should do in the area?
with young kids we really did basic main entrance area and a walk down to ice cream, took the train from flagstaff and back which the kids really enjoyed (and was easier for parking etc).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on January 28, 2018, 10:52:55 AM
What are the options for Hotels in Phoenix, Scottsdale or anywhere close by ? Any good values for points bookings ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on January 29, 2018, 07:43:02 AM
I'll be at the Grand Canyon with the family next week. We have several young children, so hiking is out. We're traveling in from Flagstaff for a day trip. Can anyone recommend a route, listing the various places we should stop and have great views? Is the glass Skywalk worth the visit? Anything else we should do in the area?


How old are your kids? Definitely hit the south rim grand canyon visitor's center and look at the view points (Mathis Point). If your kids are at least 4, they can do the junior ranger program and get a badge. There's also the Yavapai geology museum (nothing special, but it's a great spot for indoor viewing) and you can walk the rim trail (it's a paved path). You can also stop at the El Tovar and look at the beautfiul historic hotel.  I can't comment on the skywalk. You can walk a little into the canyon on the bright angel trail and then come back up. I took my 8 and 9 year olds this week and my younger kids totally could have done it.

In the Flagstaff area, there is a ton of things to do. We went to Sunset Crater National Park (and walked through lava fields), Wupatki National Park (saw pueblos), Meteor Crater, stopped at the corner in Winslow Arizona, went to Homolovi State Park....we wanted to get to the Painted Desert but didn't have time.  All the parks out there have plenty of room for kids to roam free.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on January 29, 2018, 08:09:44 AM
I just came back from a vacation in Arizona and here are some of my comments:

Tucson: We spent a lot of time at Old Tucson. My kids loved it - it's an old studio for western movies and they have live performances all day long.  We also love Saguaro National Park .

Phoenix: Hole in the Rock is a really fun, quick hike with a great view.  The Desert Botanical Gardens is pricey and only ok. We also went to Pueblo Grande Museum which is small but a nice stop to learn a bit about Pueblos.

Sedona:
Pink Jeep Tours live up to their hype and price.
Palataki Ruins - great place to see cliff dwellings/cave drawings but you need a reservation during popular times

Flagstaff:

There's a new Residence Inn in Flagstaff that was a great place to stay. The staff was super friendly and accommodating, they had plenty of kosher breakfast options and the rooms are spacious. The prices were ridiculously cheap too ($88-93/night) for a double queen with pull out couch and kitchen (no oven, just convection microwave  and fridge). The pull out couch is small so if you want 6 people in your room, make sure they are small kids.

There are so many things to do in the area besides the Grand Canyon. Here's what we did:

See the Wigwam Motel in Holbrook
Homolovi State Park - walk to a pueblo ruin and hunt for pottery shards. You can walk anywhere in the structure but you can't take pottery. My kids had a blast digging around in the ruins. It's really peaceful and quiet.
Winslow Arizona - stand at the corner, see La Posada
Meteor Crater - it's a little expensive, but really interesting to see the huge crater formed by a meteor.
Sunset Crater National Park - you can hike (or drive) through lava fields from an old volcano. It was really unexpected!
Wupatki National park - lots of Pueblo ruins to see including ball courts. These are really accessible and don't require hiking if that's not your thing.
Lowell Observatory - great place, lots of interesting lectures and information on space. The best programs are in the evening. There really isn't anything for younger kids though. They have a really cheap family membership ($70 for 2 adults/4 kids)  which can be used at many other science centers.
Montezuman's Well - we stopped here on the way back to Phoenix. It was a nice stop - cliff dwellings with a watering hole. It's right off the highway too.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on February 06, 2018, 12:18:55 PM
Is it worth it to go to arizona if I wont be able to due major hiking ?
What would be the best way to plan our route if we are arriving thursday and leaving the following tuesday night ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on February 07, 2018, 06:48:40 AM
Is it worth it to go to arizona if I wont be able to due major hiking ?
What would be the best way to plan our route if we are arriving thursday and leaving the following tuesday night ?

Yes. There is a ton to do if you can't hike. What do you like to do?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: upside down on February 12, 2018, 08:28:13 PM
Looking for a recommendation for a SPG hotel to go to for 3-4 days in March. Going Just me and wife, no kids. Just looking to relax and nothing else. preferably a place with a nice pool and a place that we can basically stay on premises most of the time and chill. Also would be a big plus if near some kosher food and a shul.
Phoenician good? Canyon suites?
Any other good ones?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SerV on February 12, 2018, 10:13:03 PM
Looking for a recommendation for a SPG hotel to go to for 3-4 days in March. Going Just me and wife, no kids. Just looking to relax and nothing else. preferably a place with a nice pool and a place that we can basically stay on premises most of the time and chill. Also would be a big plus if near some kosher food and a shul.
Phoenician good? Canyon suites?
Any other good ones?
Stayed at the canyon suites summer '17, had an amazing time, perfect place just to relax... Relatively close to kosher food.
If you have any questions pm me
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on February 14, 2018, 12:35:47 AM
Looking for a recommendation for a SPG hotel to go to for 3-4 days in March. Going Just me and wife, no kids. Just looking to relax and nothing else. preferably a place with a nice pool and a place that we can basically stay on premises most of the time and chill. Also would be a big plus if near some kosher food and a shul.
Phoenician good? Canyon suites?
Any other good ones?

Westin Kierkand Villas are great for chilling and relaxing (that is basically all we do when we go to AZ) and close to the Scottsdale shul and restaurants. :)
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on February 14, 2018, 09:56:40 AM
Westin Kierkand Villas are great for chilling and relaxing (that is basically all we do when we go to AZ) and close to the Scottsdale shul and restaurants. :)
+1 stayed there twice and was very happy both times.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on February 14, 2018, 10:28:17 AM
Westin Kierkand Villas are great for chilling and relaxing (that is basically all we do when we go to AZ) and close to the Scottsdale shul and restaurants. :)
my fav option there, look upthread for more info.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on February 14, 2018, 01:34:06 PM
Westin Kierkand Villas are great for chilling and relaxing (that is basically all we do when we go to AZ) and close to the Scottsdale shul and restaurants. :)
We were also there twice and very happy. Just keep in mind, for Shabbos, it's a bit of a walk to shul.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on March 04, 2018, 06:14:46 PM
Going to AZ this week. Itinerary is as follows:

Scottsdale
Arrive Tuesday afternoon. Staying at the Phoenician until Sunday morning. Plan to mostly relax in Scottsdale. Open to suggestions for activities to do at night.

Sedona
Driving to Sedona first thing Sunday morning. Not sure what to do activity-wise. Traveling with a 2.5 yr old so not sure if Pink Jeep tour or Our Africa is the better move. Also, is there an easy hike that I can do with my kid? She's too big for a carrier.

Grand Canyon
Driving to GC from Sedona on Monday morning. Same question as for Sedona - any easy hike that I can do in GC with my kid? Any specific spot that I should go to?

Thanks!!

ETA: Booked pink Jeep tour for 3pm on Sunday. Seems like a lot of money so hope itís worth it. So now just looking for a few hour activity for late morning until the Jeep tour and maybe something at night (if there is anything to do there).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on March 05, 2018, 09:53:49 AM
Going to AZ this week. Itinerary is as follows:

Scottsdale
Arrive Tuesday afternoon. Staying at the Phoenician until Sunday morning. Plan to mostly relax in Scottsdale. Open to suggestions for activities to do at night.

Sedona
Driving to Sedona first thing Sunday morning. Not sure what to do activity-wise. Traveling with a 2.5 yr old so not sure if Pink Jeep tour or Our Africa is the better move. Also, is there an easy hike that I can do with my kid? She's too big for a carrier.

Grand Canyon
Driving to GC from Sedona on Monday morning. Same question as for Sedona - any easy hike that I can do in GC with my kid? Any specific spot that I should go to?

Thanks!!

ETA: Booked pink Jeep tour for 3pm on Sunday. Seems like a lot of money so hope itís worth it. So now just looking for a few hour activity for late morning until the Jeep tour and maybe something at night (if there is anything to do there).
Im a cheap guy. (Aren't we all?) and I found Pink Jeep to be worth every cent. I took my son then age 6 and my wife stayed back with the younger ones. (She thought it would be to wild for them, it would've been fine.) We both had a great time.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on March 05, 2018, 10:54:56 AM
Pink Jeep tour is amazing. They have car seats for kids under 5.

There aren't really super easy trails at the grand canyon. There's the rim walk which is beautiful. You do need to be careful because there are places with no railing. 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jomaster28 on March 05, 2018, 11:08:24 AM
Going to AZ this week. Itinerary is as follows:

Scottsdale
Arrive Tuesday afternoon. Staying at the Phoenician until Sunday morning. Plan to mostly relax in Scottsdale. Open to suggestions for activities to do at night.

Sedona
Driving to Sedona first thing Sunday morning. Not sure what to do activity-wise. Traveling with a 2.5 yr old so not sure if Pink Jeep tour or Our Africa is the better move. Also, is there an easy hike that I can do with my kid? She's too big for a carrier.

Grand Canyon
Driving to GC from Sedona on Monday morning. Same question as for Sedona - any easy hike that I can do in GC with my kid? Any specific spot that I should go to?

Thanks!!

ETA: Booked pink Jeep tour for 3pm on Sunday. Seems like a lot of money so hope itís worth it. So now just looking for a few hour activity for late morning until the Jeep tour and maybe something at night (if there is anything to do there).

Heading there this week as well. Getting to Scottsdale Tuesday evening. going to GC & Sedona Wednesday. and Thursday - Sunday evening staying in Scottsdale.

Look into this plane ride at the South Rim GC...I Heard its a great plane ride

https://www.scenic.com/tours/south-rim-airplane-tour#/.Wp1si66nGUl
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on March 05, 2018, 04:45:46 PM
Im a cheap guy. (Aren't we all?) and I found Pink Jeep to be worth every cent. I took my son then age 6 and my wife stayed back with the younger ones. (She thought it would be to wild for them, it would've been fine.) We both had a great time.
Pink Jeep tour is amazing. They have car seats for kids under 5.

There aren't really super easy trails at the grand canyon. There's the rim walk which is beautiful. You do need to be careful because there are places with no railing. 

Awesome. Good to know itís worth the money.

Heading there this week as well. Getting to Scottsdale Tuesday evening. going to GC & Sedona Wednesday. and Thursday - Sunday evening staying in Scottsdale.

Look into this plane ride at the South Rim GC...I Heard its a great plane ride

https://www.scenic.com/tours/south-rim-airplane-tour#/.Wp1si66nGUl
Donít think my wife would be down for the plane ride, though looks great. Where you staying in scottsdale?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on March 06, 2018, 12:23:57 AM
I went with a 11month old
Pink Jeep wouldn't take him, we found a Hummer tour that was really enjoyable.

You can drive up to airport road for nice view. Also we did a short hike too around bell...

GC just take the bus through all 11 stops. You can skip one and walk between one. That alone will take a long time.
There are 2 other lookouts you can almost drive up too.

I wrote a TR somewhere on DDF.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jomaster28 on March 06, 2018, 08:43:02 AM
Awesome. Good to know itís worth the money.
Donít think my wife would be down for the plane ride, though looks great. Where you staying in scottsdale?

Staying at the Fairmont in Scottsdale and at Kimpton in Sedona for Wednesday night.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: meir1234 on March 10, 2018, 11:58:24 PM
Can I see the grand canyon and Sedona in the same day I will be staying over night in kingman
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on March 11, 2018, 06:32:37 AM
Can I see the grand canyon and Sedona in the same day I will be staying over night in kingman

Yes but you won't see much in either place.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on March 12, 2018, 12:02:27 AM
Can I see the grand canyon and Sedona in the same day I will be staying over night in kingman
You need minimum a day at each including driving.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: emak on March 28, 2018, 10:36:36 PM
DW & I are headed to Arizona for a week, we wanted to do Phoenix for 3-4 days, then Sedona for 2. Hope to drive to the GC for a day. We wanted to stay around Sedona for a day or two. What are the best hotel options? Can't find anything decent. Would love to use points but I don't see many options. Best I saw was a Courtyard Marriott and a IHG hotel. Should we stay around Flagstaff instead? We're with a baby so we wanted a big room. We've never been there before, so any advice is appreciated.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: moka on March 29, 2018, 12:14:08 AM
DW & I are headed to Arizona for a week, we wanted to do Phoenix for 3-4 days, then Sedona for 2. Hope to drive to the GC for a day. We wanted to stay around Sedona for a day or two. What are the best hotel options? Can't find anything decent. Would love to use points but I don't see many options. Best I saw was a Courtyard Marriott and a IHG hotel. Should we stay around Flagstaff instead? We're with a baby so we wanted a big room. We've never been there before, so any advice is appreciated.
hilton sedona is nice and has great views all around
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on March 29, 2018, 01:37:47 AM
DW & I are headed to Arizona for a week, we wanted to do Phoenix for 3-4 days, then Sedona for 2. Hope to drive to the GC for a day. We wanted to stay around Sedona for a day or two. What are the best hotel options? Can't find anything decent. Would love to use points but I don't see many options. Best I saw was a Courtyard Marriott and a IHG hotel. Should we stay around Flagstaff instead? We're with a baby so we wanted a big room. We've never been there before, so any advice is appreciated.
There's a Hyatt in Sedona. Haven't been there though.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: saw50st8 on March 29, 2018, 07:29:01 AM
If you want to explore Sedona, don't stay in Flagstaff. Flagstaff is a great place to stay if you want to go to the Grand Canyon and see Sedona (in which case I stayed at a great residence inn in Flagstaff - cheap, new, beautiful and great hotel staff). 
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 23, 2018, 02:13:30 PM
Anyone been to the Miraval Hotel,

I'd like to hear how accommodating they are regarding kosher food
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Ikelunious99 on June 18, 2018, 08:09:14 PM
See my Arizona Trip Report (Scottsdale/Sedona/Grand Canyon/Vegas)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=93368.0
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mordyk on July 09, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
i see so many people go in august yet the heat is crazy. quite a few of the trip reports are from the hottest months. anyone been there that would give a suggestion if its worth it to go now? i know hotels are cheap this time of the year and there is alot of points availability.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on July 09, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
See my Arizona Trip Report (Scottsdale/Sedona/Grand Canyon/Vegas)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=93368.0
Thanks.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on July 27, 2018, 01:35:15 AM
Is there still any restaurants open now?
We just arrived
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on July 30, 2018, 08:50:32 AM
Is there still any restaurants open now?
We just arrived
absolutely
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on August 13, 2018, 11:23:44 AM
Anything around Glendale (within an hour) thatís good to do with kids today? (2 year old and baby) If outdoors it should be somewhere cooler.
Did lake pleasant yesterday.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on August 13, 2018, 09:48:45 PM
Anything around Glendale (within an hour) thatís good to do with kids today? (2 year old and baby) If outdoors it should be somewhere cooler.
Did lake pleasant yesterday.
glendale, AZ? you're in phoenix. go for pizza at La Belle, they have a/c.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on August 13, 2018, 11:22:33 PM
Anything around Glendale (within an hour) thatís good to do with kids today? (2 year old and baby) If outdoors it should be somewhere cooler.
Did lake pleasant yesterday.
also, I think there's an outlet mall there.
Title: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on August 14, 2018, 12:40:09 AM
Did outlet today. Did labella twice already. Actually had the most tasty fettuccini there.
Iím thinking of going to Grand Canyon tomorrow. We may go via some other city which is about 2 hours away and then take a train up to the Grand Canyon. The train itself will be a trip for the kids
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on August 14, 2018, 01:08:47 AM
Did outlet today. Did labella twice already. Actually had the most tasty fettuccini there.
Iím thinking of going to Grand Canyon tomorrow. We may go via some other city which is about 2 hours away and then take a train up to the Grand Canyon. The train itself will be a trip for the kids
that's a great option, we almost did that. It's about 10 degrees cooler there, at least when I was there. Work Sedona in as well, if you can, it's gourgeous.
if you didn't got to kitchen18 yet, it's a superb fleishig option.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on August 14, 2018, 01:10:44 AM
that's a great option, we almost did that. It's about 10 degrees cooler there, at least when I was there. Work Sedona in as well, if you can, it's gourgeous.
if you didn't got to kitchen18 yet, it's a superb fleishig option.
It looks like itís almost 20 degrees cooler in Grand Canyon
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 14, 2018, 04:19:22 AM
Did outlet today. Did labella twice already. Actually had the most tasty fettuccini there.
Iím thinking of going to Grand Canyon tomorrow. We may go via some other city which is about 2 hours away and then take a train up to the Grand Canyon. The train itself will be a trip for the kids
we did the train and loved it. its a bit pricy, but great for kids.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ar on October 11, 2018, 11:52:19 AM
Anyone can help me compare The Westin Kierland and Andaz Scottsdale.

Dont know which one to choose. Thanks
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on October 11, 2018, 12:37:18 PM
Think we can get a minyan together at the phonecian first shabbos in February?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ar on October 11, 2018, 01:49:29 PM
Anyone can help me compare The Westin Kierland and Andaz Scottsdale.

Dont know which one to choose. Thanks

Bump
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on October 12, 2018, 08:00:22 AM
Bump
i was only at kierland (twice) so if you have specific questions I can help but I canít really compare the two
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ar on October 12, 2018, 11:37:30 AM
i was only at kierland (twice) so if you have specific questions I can help but I canít really compare the two

Was it nice? Grounds? Looks really nice on website

I'm looking to take a one bedroom premium villa.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on October 14, 2018, 12:45:07 AM
Was it nice? Grounds? Looks really nice on website

I'm looking to take a one bedroom premium villa.
we loved it both times and Iíd go back in a heartbeat. Rooms were nice, (relatively) new, and clean. There is a full fridge-freezer and table and if you get a premium room a Huge eating living dining area.
There are also areas outdoor to grill with (non kosher) grills. speak to your LOR about Kashering them- not as difficult as you may think. Personally, I just went to Walmart bought a $20 grill and two mini propane cans went to Chabad to toivel and just used my own (at the grilling area).
 
Grounds are good at the villas not huge but you have full access to the resort which is next door. There is a free shuttle but its probably quicker and definitely nicer to walk.

 Over there there is plenty of space to walk around as well as a larger pool a lazy river water slide and a surfing simulator( which you have to pay for and I highly recommend doing if thatís your kind of thing).


Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ar on October 14, 2018, 02:01:49 PM
we loved it both times and Iíd go back in a heartbeat. Rooms were nice, (relatively) new, and clean. There is a full fridge-freezer and table and if you get a premium room a Huge eating living dining area.
There are also areas outdoor to grill with (non kosher) grills. speak to your LOR about Kashering them- not as difficult as you may think. Personally, I just went to Walmart bought a $20 grill and two mini propane cans went to Chabad to toivel and just used my own (at the grilling area).
 
Grounds are good at the villas not huge but you have full access to the resort which is next door. There is a free shuttle but its probably quicker and definitely nicer to walk.

 Over there there is plenty of space to walk around as well as a larger pool a lazy river water slide and a surfing simulator( which you have to pay for and I highly recommend doing if thatís your kind of thing).

Thanks for the info!

Now the Spas, Boulder, Four Seasons or Fairmont? In terms of facilities - which one?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Freecountry on November 12, 2018, 10:31:16 AM
I'm looking to go to Scottsdale, and I would like to stay at the Phoenician luxury club ( https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/phxpr-phoenician-residences-a-luxury-collection-residence-club-scottsdale/ )
However there's no option to book with points, does anyone know if calling will make a difference and I'll be able to book it with points?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on November 12, 2018, 10:41:52 AM
I'm looking to go to Scottsdale, and I would like to stay at the Phoenician luxury club ( https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/phxpr-phoenician-residences-a-luxury-collection-residence-club-scottsdale/ )
However there's no option to book with points, does anyone know if calling will make a difference and I'll be able to book it with points?
In the good old spg days, that was some 75k SPG a night iirc.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Freecountry on November 12, 2018, 10:59:02 AM
In the good old spg days, that was some 75k SPG a night iirc.
I would like to go but there is no points option, anything to do
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on November 12, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
I would like to go but there is no points option, anything to do
When I looked into it a few years ago, they were able to do it on the phone. Was just an insane amount of points.

I ended up staying at the regular Phoenician and really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Freecountry on November 12, 2018, 01:34:59 PM
When I looked into it a few years ago, they were able to do it on the phone. Was just an insane amount of points.

I ended up staying at the regular Phoenician and really enjoyed it.
im looking for a private villa w/pool. do you know of any, not specifically in arizona but somewhere warm in the usa
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on November 12, 2018, 05:03:28 PM
im looking for a private villa w/pool. do you know of any, not specifically in arizona but somewhere warm in the usa
A long time ago we went to Palm Springs. There are villas with private pools. In Orlando you have homes with private pools that are less expensive than villas.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Freecountry on November 12, 2018, 06:27:50 PM
A long time ago we went to Palm Springs. There are villas with private pools. In Orlando you have homes with private pools that are less expensive than villas.
thanks. Do you know of any that is a starwoods property, such as the Phoenician in Arizona
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on November 14, 2018, 01:01:53 AM
thanks. Do you know of any that is a starwoods property, such as the Phoenician in Arizona
kierland villas are great.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Freecountry on November 14, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
kierland villas are great.
where's that?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on November 21, 2018, 05:06:09 PM
where's that?
Scottsdale
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 23, 2018, 02:43:02 PM
Think we can get a minyan together at the phonecian first shabbos in February?
Anybody in for a minyan??
We are 2. I can lein and can probably arrange a sefer torah if we can put this together.

Plenty of award availibility that weekend.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ajaxdentist on December 24, 2018, 10:57:57 PM
Got a good deal to stay at the Kierland Villas at the end of January. Anyone know how Shabbos friendly it is - locks, a/c, lights, doors, etc ...?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 25, 2018, 09:57:28 AM
Got a good deal to stay at the Kierland Villas at the end of January. Anyone know how Shabbos friendly it is - locks, a/c, lights, doors, etc ...?
very shabbos friendly. Standard hotel locks. Nothing automated. It's within the eiruv so that definitely helps
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ajaxdentist on December 25, 2018, 10:51:25 PM
very shabbos friendly. Standard hotel locks. Nothing automated. It's within the eiruv so that definitely helps
Excellent! Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 29, 2018, 08:02:41 PM
Anybody in for a minyan??
We are 2. I can lein and can probably arrange a sefer torah if we can put this together.

Plenty of award availability that weekend.
Now 3
Still plenty of availability for the first weekend of February
PM me if you'd be interested.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: amm543 on January 07, 2019, 06:15:03 PM
Any recommendations of winter activities to do with kids aged 5 - 12?


Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on January 21, 2019, 09:08:34 PM
Anybody in for a minyan??
We are 2. I can lein and can probably arrange a sefer torah if we can put this together.

Plenty of award availibility that weekend.

How much is it per night
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on January 21, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
Donít know if there is availability anymore but 60k per night in either the hotel, canyon suites or residences
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on January 22, 2019, 09:52:10 PM
Does anyone know if the Chabad Jewish Center of North Phoenix has a daily minyan?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on January 31, 2019, 07:38:09 PM
Will be visiting Scottsdale in February.
I see that there are many restaurants on this website (https://www.ahavastorah.org/restaurants.html) ​that are not mentioned in the Wiki.
Is the Wiki just not updated or is it the opposite?



Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on February 12, 2019, 01:35:13 AM
Can anyone recommend a specific area to go to in the Grand Canyon ? Coming from Phoenix so the closer the better. Mainly for views but wouldnít mind a mild short hike. Thx
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 12, 2019, 01:42:59 AM
Can anyone recommend a specific area to go to in the Grand Canyon ? Coming from Phoenix so the closer the better. Mainly for views but wouldnít mind a mild short hike. Thx
In Phoenician now. Heading out tomorrow to the grand canyon. I just booked a sunset tour with pink Jeep to make sure I dont miss anything.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on February 12, 2019, 01:45:27 AM
In Phoenician now. Heading out tomorrow to the grand canyon. I just booked a sunset tour with pink Jeep to make sure I dont miss anything.
Is it the same kind of tour as the pink Jeep Sedona ? I have done that in the past and Iím not really looking for that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 12, 2019, 01:48:02 AM
Is it the same kind of tour as the pink Jeep Sedona ? I have done that in the past and Iím not really looking for that kind of thing.
Same company.   
Never did any tour with them before.   I'm not the hiking type so I decided to book with them and hope they will cover it nicely.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on February 12, 2019, 01:50:07 AM
I hear. In Sedona itís basically a wild ride with a Jeep and the guide stops by beautiful lookouts. I can imagine it will be similar.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 12, 2019, 01:51:23 AM
I hear. In Sedona itís basically a wild ride with a Jeep and the guide stops by beautiful lookouts. I can imagine it will be similar.
On phone they said it's not wild at all and the canyon tour is only on paved roads.  Can report back tomorrow eve.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on February 12, 2019, 01:53:56 AM
Tomorrow eve will be to late for me :) Iím going tomorrow morning as well. Iím in the Hyatt gainy ranch now... I probably just saw you at kitchen 18 ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 12, 2019, 01:58:56 AM
Tomorrow eve will be to late for me :) Iím going tomorrow morning as well. Iím in the Hyatt gainy ranch now... I probably just saw you at kitchen 18 ?
LOL.
I posted this cause I had a feeling there is another DDF'er in house. dont know why  ;)
Kitchen 18 Scottsdale AZ
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 12, 2019, 02:05:45 AM
Im driving up to page after the tour, and scheduled a tour of the lower Antelope canyon for Wed morning, and then driving back down.
like this I dont have to travel 8 hours in one day.

Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on February 12, 2019, 02:08:56 AM
Im driving up to page after the tour, and scheduled a tour of the lower Antelope canyon for Wed morning, and then driving back down.
like this I dont have to travel 8 hours in one day.
I hear. Iím going to LAS after probably and gonna leave from there. So I will have to drive 8 hours in one day (:
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 12, 2019, 02:26:16 AM
I hear. Iím going to LAS after probably and gonna leave from there. So I will have to drive 8 hours in one day (:
I initially planned on driving back in same day untill @MahRabuMasecha convinced me not to miss Antelope
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on March 28, 2019, 06:11:11 PM
Seeking Minyan
Hoping to do a two day post pesach trip to either Page Arizona or Grand Canyon south rim. Looking for people that might be interested in Mincha/maariv Sunday night and shacharis Monday morning. 
I posted on godaven as well.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: wonderlust on April 10, 2019, 08:19:28 AM
which restaurant has the best food for fleshigs? Kitchen 18, Segalís or 613 grill?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: aarony on April 10, 2019, 08:34:28 AM
Been to all three.  Kitchen 18 is our favorite by far.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: wonderlust on April 10, 2019, 01:44:32 PM
Really? 613 looks the best.. any good?
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Post by: aarony on April 10, 2019, 04:37:52 PM
it was fine.  no complaints.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: thaber on April 11, 2019, 02:42:17 AM
Been to all three.  Kitchen 18 is our favorite by far.
+1. This is a spectacular place. As is La Belle Pizzeria.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on April 11, 2019, 06:28:57 PM
Kitchen 18 would be a favorite of mine if it was in five towns/NY. top notch.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on June 21, 2019, 11:56:09 AM
is it to hot to visit Arizona in July ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ltttc on June 21, 2019, 01:24:08 PM
is it to hot to visit Arizona in July ?
Yes!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ltttc on June 21, 2019, 01:26:01 PM
Yes!
July is actually the hottest month in Phoenix. You can google the average weather and c if youre ok w/it. It's all relative...
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 09, 2019, 01:04:02 AM
Looking to go to grand canyon one day Aug 19-21, to do it practically with the train we need a 6am minyan. We could only find 6:30, does anyone know of a 6, or is interested in combining with our 4 men?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 16, 2019, 01:21:28 PM
Looking to go to grand canyon one day Aug 19-21, to do it practically with the train we need a 6am minyan. We could only find 6:30, does anyone know of a 6, or is interested in combining with our 4 men?
bump, probably would be 20 or 21, so need either a 6am minyan or a later minyan on the way or at Flagstaff. lmk if any ideas. thx
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: flyingace on August 17, 2019, 09:44:51 PM
Flagstaff Chabad should have a minyan, look it up on their website.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 17, 2019, 11:15:16 PM
Flagstaff Chabad should have a minyan, look it up on their website.
thanks!!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on August 20, 2019, 01:47:54 PM
pink jeeps: Scenic Rim 2.0 vs Coyote Canyons (going with someone with neck issues)? is scenic rim somehow better beyond the fact that u go faster and bounce more?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ltttc on August 25, 2019, 11:42:52 AM
pink jeeps: Scenic Rim 2.0 vs Coyote Canyons (going with someone with neck issues)? is scenic rim somehow better beyond the fact that u go faster and bounce more?
Don't recommend Pink jeep with neck problems. It's a real bumpy ride
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder11 on August 25, 2019, 10:22:04 PM
pink jeeps: Scenic Rim 2.0 vs Coyote Canyons (going with someone with neck issues)? is scenic rim somehow better beyond the fact that u go faster and bounce more?

no speed at all on scenic rim . Just really bouncy .
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ROYA on September 04, 2019, 12:47:01 PM
Hi to all,

I plan on going to Arizona in January and will be staying in The Phoenician. Does anyone know any info about the 11 passenger flight from the hotel to the Grand Canyon- is it dangerous? Is it worth it? and any recommendations for a ATV/Jeeping activity?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: SSLPhD on September 04, 2019, 10:03:00 PM
Hi to all,

I plan on going to Arizona in January and will be staying in The Phoenician. Does anyone know any info about the 11 passenger flight from the hotel to the Grand Canyon- is it dangerous? Is it worth it? and any recommendations for a ATV/Jeeping activity?

Thanks!
The image you posted mentioned Pink Jeep doing the ground tour part.  Just FYI, although the same company, these are not the same Jeeps as the ones used in Sedona.  IIRC, the Jeeps used at the Grand Canyon were enclosed buses painted pink.  Highly recommend Pink Jeep's Broken Arrow Tour out of Sedona.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jose34 on October 22, 2019, 09:41:01 PM
Any Shachris minyanim later then 7:30 on a weekday?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on October 25, 2019, 12:10:40 PM
Why does it say rate unavailable?

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Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ltttc on October 25, 2019, 12:34:25 PM
Perhaps try Hyatt - We stayed at the Hyatt Regency Scottsdale Resort & Spa At Gainey Ranch - it was beautiful!
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on October 31, 2019, 04:00:42 PM
Why does it say rate unavailable?



Now the Westin Kierland Resort & Spa shows available, is it walkable to shuls?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jose34 on October 31, 2019, 04:08:01 PM
Now the Westin Kierland Resort & Spa shows available, is it walkable to shuls?
Should be; seems like half hour walk to Ahavas Torah: Scottsdale Torah Center- Rabbi Shushan.
I wonder if there are closer places though.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on October 31, 2019, 05:31:11 PM
if I am looking to rent a house with a pool walking to the shoul what Area should I look for . and is there allot of place for hikes near Scottsdale? or should I rather stay in Phoenix ?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: jose34 on October 31, 2019, 06:37:51 PM
if I am looking to rent a house with a pool walking to the shoul what Area should I look for . and is there allot of place for hikes near Scottsdale? or should I rather stay in Phoenix ?
Phoenix and Scottsdale are within 5 minutes of each other.  What kind of hikes are you looking and for how long do you plan on staying?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Mutty on November 01, 2019, 12:20:12 PM
Should be; seems like half hour walk to Ahavas Torah: Scottsdale Torah Center- Rabbi Shushan.
I wonder if there are closer places though.
If I remember correctly, it took me more than 45 minutes to walk there. His old shul was closer
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on November 05, 2019, 03:45:01 PM
I emailed the shul (office@ahavastorah.org) last week to find out some info about Shabbos during winter break and haven't heard back.

Is there anyplace to buy food for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ltttc on November 05, 2019, 05:53:34 PM
I emailed the shul (office@ahavastorah.org) last week to find out some info about Shabbos during winter break and haven't heard back.

Is there anyplace to buy food for Shabbos?
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If youre referring to Phoenix, there's a kosher grocery store called Kosher Corner. You can also check out Imperial as well.
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: shiframeir on November 05, 2019, 11:44:34 PM
I emailed the shul (office@ahavastorah.org) last week to find out some info about Shabbos during winter break and haven't heard back.

Is there anyplace to buy food for Shabbos?
Kitchen 18 also does takeout friday u can call them up and order whatever u want (preferrably thursday night).
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: stooges44 on November 06, 2019, 09:19:57 AM
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If youre referring to Phoenix, there's a kosher grocery store called Kosher Corner. You can also check out Imperial as well.

Thanks

Kitchen 18 also does takeout friday u can call them up and order whatever u want (preferrably thursday night).

Thanks

Are there any other shuls aside from the 3 listed in the wiki?
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: ltttc on November 06, 2019, 10:16:52 AM
Are there any other shuls aside from the 3 listed in the wiki?
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In Phoenix, yes. There's one on Bethany Home Road and other smaller ones too
Title: Re: Arizona Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on November 06, 2019, 10:21:34 AM
Are there any other shuls aside from the 3 listed in the wiki?

In Phoenix, yes. There's one on Bethany Home Road and other smaller ones too
http://legacy.godaven.com/list.asp?City=Phoenix
http://legacy.godaven.com/list.asp?fpdbr_0_pMv=First&Name=scottsdale

some of those addresses need updating i think