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Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: pghtown on June 11, 2008, 10:33:28 PM
I am interested in renting a cell phone while in Israel.  I am looking for advise on renting in the US vs Israel and which company is best.  Thanks !
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2008, 12:04:02 AM
How long are you going for?
Are you going by yourself or with other people?
Where will you be calling to while in Israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: pghtown on June 12, 2008, 12:50:46 AM
About 3 weeks, with family.  Mostly will call to and receive calls from cell phones and landlines in Israel.  Very little to the US.  Quick search on the web seems to point towards Amigo.  Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2008, 01:02:35 AM
Amigo is worthwhile if you're getting at least 2 phones and will take advantage of their free direct connect service.  Take a look at their short-term student plans which may be a better deal than the tourist plan.

Also be sure to have them disable the internet, Amigo charges a whopping 9 cents a kb, to put that into perspective loading dansdeals.com on your phone may just set you back $100!!!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 02:49:34 AM
theres also a company called kol contacts which charges 1 dollar a day plus a flat 17 cents a minute to any phone in israel and to america and free incoming (and theres pickup in brooklyn)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 02:52:05 AM
theres also a company called kol contacts which charges 1 dollar a day plus a flat 17 cents a minute to any phone in israel and to america
Amigo is the way to go, take atvantage of their free direct connect
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 02:58:15 AM
Amigo is the way to go, take atvantage of their free direct connect
  he said that hes calling landlines thus doesnt need direct connect  so why is amigo the way to go?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 03:16:15 AM
  he said that hes calling landlines thus doesnt need direct connect  so why is amigo the way to go?
"Mostly will call to and receive calls from cell phones and landlines in Israel.  Very little to the US"
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 03:33:22 AM
"Mostly will call to and receive calls from cell phones and landlines in Israel.  Very little to the US"

  true but it sounds like people with EXISTING cell phones not tourists like himself and most phones in israel dont have a wakie talkie feature  so its not worth paying more for a feature hes probably not going to be using too much
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 03:40:49 AM
  true but it sounds like people with EXISTING cell phones not tourists like himself and most phones in israel dont have a wakie talkie feature  so its not worth paying more for a feature hes probably not going to be using too much
About 3 weeks, with family.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 03:42:58 AM
its not worth paying more for a feature hes probably not going to be using too much
The feature is FREE
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 03:50:09 AM
The feature is FREE
true but the whole plan is more expensive   also about the family thing
I am interested in renting a cell phone while in Israel.  I am looking for advise on renting in the US vs Israel and which company is best.  Thanks !
notice  CELL PHONE  singular which sounds like hes only looking to rent one phone!  :-)    We can go back and forth a whole day, levi,  btw im still waiting for you to get back to me in the pm
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 03:52:31 AM
notice  CELL PHONE  singular which sounds like hes only looking to rent one phone!  :-)
The topic is Cell PhoneS in Israel  ;D 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 03:55:25 AM
i have something to say but i think im going to let pghtown clarify his question  btw when are you going to get back to me in the message boards?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: pghtown on June 12, 2008, 06:34:11 AM
Thansk folks.  I  need to rent ONE cell phone only.  Will be making/receiving calls to/from Israelis with their own cell phones as well as from landlines.  Hope this clarifies things
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ash on June 12, 2008, 01:21:54 PM
what about getting a pre paid cell phone in israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 01:32:28 PM
Thansk folks.  I  need to rent ONE cell phone only.  Will be making/receiving calls to/from Israelis with their own cell phones as well as from landlines.  Hope this clarifies things
so there you have it  in this situation i think kol contact is the best route
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ash on June 12, 2008, 01:35:16 PM
i loooked into it everyone wants money
how about unlocking you phone and getting a prepaid sim in israel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yid on June 23, 2008, 02:11:32 PM
prepaid sim cards are rarely worth it, unless you just want a phone for an emergency... especially with the low dollar and that orange prepaid raised their prices a lot about 10 months ago.
Title: israel cell phone rental
Post by: ask on June 30, 2008, 01:08:16 AM
is there a short term cell phone rental that gives you good rates on mobile 2 mobile
@around 2 cents a minute? or that comes with a nextel style walkie talkie?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on June 30, 2008, 12:33:06 PM
is there a short term cell phone rental that gives you good rates on mobile 2 mobile
@around 2 cents a minute? or that comes with a nextel style walkie talkie?
Amigo rents phones with unlimited walkie-talkie.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yid on June 30, 2008, 07:34:00 PM
i am going to israel this week. talk and save has a summer special with a free rental and you just pay for minutes!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Na Nach on June 30, 2008, 08:23:35 PM
i am going to israel this week. talk and save has a summer special with a free rental and you just pay for minutes!
  what do they charge per minute
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: coralsnake on July 01, 2008, 11:16:22 AM
  what do they charge per minute
Go to their website:
http://www.talknsave.net/
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Na Nach on July 01, 2008, 11:28:04 AM
i am going to israel this week. talk and save has a summer special with a free rental and you just pay for minutes!
after you see their prices it makes sense that they'll give you a free phone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: coralsnake on July 01, 2008, 11:50:45 AM
after you see their prices it makes sense that they'll give you a free phone
Are they expensive?
Who is cheaper?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Na Nach on July 01, 2008, 02:54:31 PM
Are they expensive?
Who is cheaper?
I think so. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a sim card bec you never pay rental fees. this place talk and save has it that you need to have the phone for 4 to 6 weeks. last time i checked you could go into orange and sign up for a plan with no monthly fee just sign a contract say 60 agurat per minute to any where in israel and an additional 15 agura per minute to america and no hidden fees. i did it in the orange store next to kikar shabbat. This is not prepaid.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on July 01, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
I think so. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a sim card bec you never pay rental fees. this place talk and save has it that you need to have the phone for 4 to 6 weeks. last time i checked you could go into orange and sign up for a plan with no monthly fee just sign a contract say 60 agurat per minute to any where in israel and an additional 15 agura per minute to america and no hidden fees. i did it in the orange store next to kikar shabbat. This is not prepaid.
with the current exchange rate that comes out to be about 18 cents within israel and 22 cents to america. if you rent a phone from kol contacts its $1 a day and 17 cents a minute across the board, to an israeli landline, cell phone, and america  i would think the latter is the better deal since you dont have to buy anything and you dont have to unlock your phone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Na Nach on July 01, 2008, 03:25:41 PM
with the current exchange rate that comes out to be about 18 cents within israel and 22 cents to america. if you rent a phone from kol contacts its $1 a day and 17 cents a minute across the board, to an israeli landline, cell phone, and america  i would think the latter is the better deal since you dont have to buy anything and you dont have to unlock your phone
it all depends on how often you go to israel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: coralsnake on July 01, 2008, 03:31:52 PM
I think so. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a sim card bec you never pay rental fees. this place talk and save has it that you need to have the phone for 4 to 6 weeks. last time i checked you could go into orange and sign up for a plan with no monthly fee just sign a contract say 60 agurat per minute to any where in israel and an additional 15 agura per minute to america and no hidden fees. i did it in the orange store next to kikar shabbat. This is not prepaid.
You dont have to rent for 4-6 weeks with Talk n Save (maybe for the no rental fee deal).
The regular rental costs $1 per day.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on July 01, 2008, 04:40:31 PM
it all depends on how often you go to israel
im not sure what that means since the per minute rate is cheaper please elaborate
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Na Nach on July 01, 2008, 05:12:12 PM
If  you don't go often do what you find easy to deal with. if you go often then what the orange deal is worth it because you go with the israel rate not us dollars and usually the dollar is worth more than it is now so that way you gain
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on July 02, 2008, 01:54:02 AM
If  you don't go often do what you find easy to deal with. if you go often then what the orange deal is worth it because you go with the israel rate not us dollars and usually the dollar is worth more than it is now so that way you gain
its been like this for a long time now
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: saloik on August 13, 2008, 01:30:14 PM
im looking for a cell phone for 1 year
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: saloik on August 13, 2008, 01:31:06 PM
do they have the 10$ add on a line to a existing contract like we have here
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: saloik on August 19, 2008, 01:03:22 PM
any one ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Aviva on August 26, 2008, 03:27:38 AM
Amigo/Mirs service is crap.
if you're only calling Israel, definitely get an unlocked phone from the States (make sure it's got world phone capabilities) and buy a Cellcom or Orange chip here.
 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Charles The Govenor on August 26, 2008, 03:33:26 AM
Make sure its a triband I believe.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mom on August 27, 2008, 03:33:22 PM
i am interested in a student cellphone for a year -
any suggestions on a good (not too expensive) company
Is it better to get the phone in the US or in Israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on August 28, 2008, 09:46:22 AM
i recommend kol contacts where you pay 13 cents per minute across the board, (all israeli numbers including cellphones and to america) and not part of the dollar versus shekel gamble. since i have my own unlocked phone i pay $5 a month on top for the sim card rental
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mom on August 28, 2008, 10:03:48 AM
how can you reach Kol Contacts.
Can you rent the phone from them as well?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on August 28, 2008, 10:11:22 AM
you can but im not sure for how much the contact info is Customer Service: office@kolcontacts.co.il
Tel 054-774-4150 and 02-644-7546
US Tel 718-210-3258 and 877-448-1630
US Fax 718-732-2928
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Charles The Govenor on August 28, 2008, 05:47:33 PM
Just go bye an unlocked phone.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Charles The Govenor on August 28, 2008, 05:47:49 PM
Buy*
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on August 29, 2008, 11:32:20 AM
ebay is a good place to get one
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Charles The Govenor on August 29, 2008, 12:26:17 PM
Or a little cell phone store in the mall.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mancunian on August 31, 2008, 02:37:32 PM
and does anyone know the best rates to call israel from america? (to a cellphone)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Mordy on January 04, 2009, 01:01:29 PM
hmmm- anyone have any experience with data rates in Israel?
I'm going in 2 weeks and I'm bringing my own unlocked HTC Wizard so I can stay on top of things here.
Lot of talk about minutes, but very nothing about data on handset(I guess the average bochur wouldn't want to pay for it).

Is it just too expensive across the board?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mancunian on January 06, 2009, 06:37:30 PM
speaking of this... i was actually wondering about data rates -

because w/ things like truphone and taulkonaut you can make voip calls over your phones internet (i think)...
i had such a thing in england from the company three

it would probably be much cheaper

anyone know any rates?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Mordy on January 06, 2009, 06:51:30 PM
probably not cheaper since data is an arm and a leg, and incoming calls are free.
I'm asking for actual data use, as in, being able to google where I am, etc. Here in the states you'll find tons of unlimited data carriers, which could make voip possible (I've made skype and other voip calls over EVDO and even Edge back in the day), but in Israel you shouldn't bother.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Bracha on January 15, 2009, 02:35:25 PM
i tried this phone rental place as apposed to bringing my own phone and paying huge roaming fees, the rates were pretty good as long as you dont sit on the phone to the states all day :) its called travelcell and you can rent on the phone online and they have a brooklyn office as well, totally reccomend them!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ash on January 15, 2009, 05:04:22 PM
on the data plans i paid for bb sprint it was 69 for a month i paid half for two weeks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2009, 05:06:58 PM
hmmm- anyone have any experience with data rates in Israel?
I'm going in 2 weeks and I'm bringing my own unlocked HTC Wizard so I can stay on top of things here.
Lot of talk about minutes, but very nothing about data on handset(I guess the average bochur wouldn't want to pay for it).

Is it just too expensive across the board?
I rented from Amigo last time and wouldn't touch the data...they wanted 9 cents a KB!
http://www.amigo-us.com/tourist.cfm
Title: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: justcurious on December 12, 2010, 10:54:16 AM
Hi

I will be going to Israel for 10 days in January and I am looking for a celphone to use in Israel. Should I rent or should I use my unlocked gsm phone and buy a sim card.
Which companies to you recommend
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: YudiG on December 12, 2010, 11:03:48 AM
to buy a simcard will run abt $25

talk and save had a promo going on i believe
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: how on December 12, 2010, 12:21:07 PM
to buy a simcard will run abt $25

talk and save had a promo going on i believe
Talk and save has a promo for  a free phone until mid January.
http://www.talknsave.net/tourists/tdi-791.asp (http://www.talknsave.net/tourists/tdi-791.asp)
You can get a sim for cheap bu calls are usually not to cheap on prepaid sims.
I wonder if the retes will go down on jan 1. rates for regular cell phones are all going down to 7 ag.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: MnM1130 on December 12, 2010, 01:13:17 PM
amp cellular ampcellular.com they have cheaper rates than talk n save, and better customer service.
check online... on that website.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: how on December 12, 2010, 01:47:56 PM
pretty much the same prices - especially if u take the free phone offer into account
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: MnM1130 on December 12, 2010, 05:08:42 PM
Contact nachi@ampcellular.com and he can give you any rate talk n save offers and better.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: elikay on December 12, 2010, 05:44:19 PM
From experience I would say to go with a pp sim, unless you really did your homework and renting comes out cheaper.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: MnM1130 on December 13, 2010, 04:14:36 AM
when you use a sim card- u not only pay for a sim card but u also pay almost double for your calls.. especially when you call america- you dont get any deals for that. I happened to have liked using a sim card becuase your on top of your own plan, but in hindsight you pay much more money in the end. 
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: elikay on December 13, 2010, 01:08:48 PM
when you use a sim card- u not only pay for a sim card but u also pay almost double for your calls.. especially when you call america- you dont get any deals for that. I happened to have liked using a sim card becuase your on top of your own plan, but in hindsight you pay much more money in the end. 
All I know is that I once rented a phone for a month and it ended up costing 100 dollars, I used a prepaid sim this past summer and spent about $50 on two phones!!
PS Sim card prices have come down, they used to be 100 shekel. I think you can now get them for about 20 at davidka. Click here to see on map (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=31.785642,35.214967&num=1&sll=31.768862,35.203856&sspn=0.151843,0.256119&ie=UTF8&ll=31.785548,35.214872&spn=0.003794,0.010568&z=17)
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: how on December 13, 2010, 01:17:25 PM
All I know is that I once rented a phone for a month and it ended up costing 100 dollars, I used a prepaid sim this past summer and spent about $50 on two phones!!
PS Sim card prices have come down, they used to be 100 shekel. I think you can now get them for about 20 at davidka. Click here to see on map (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=31.785642,35.214967&num=1&sll=31.768862,35.203856&sspn=0.151843,0.256119&ie=UTF8&ll=31.785548,35.214872&spn=0.003794,0.010568&z=17)
yes you can get them for 20 = shekel. if u have ur own sim u get 2 keep the same number every time u come to israel
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: ygift on December 18, 2010, 11:21:53 PM
where is the best deal on prepaid sim cards in yerushalayim and how much is it per minute local in israel (land line and cell phones0 and also to usa? I need an answer asap for this week
thanx
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: how on December 19, 2010, 02:41:23 AM
the cell phone store off kikar davidka

its about 80 agurat a minute
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: ygift on December 19, 2010, 09:42:45 AM
Is davidka where prima palace is? Do u know what time they close? I'm coming thurs eve and I would like to get a sim card asap
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: elikay on December 19, 2010, 10:35:32 AM
I posted a map link ;-)
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: how on December 19, 2010, 01:57:41 PM
yes across from the prima palace
i dont know what time they close
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: yid on December 19, 2010, 02:57:47 PM
at "taam po" bagel store near the mir orange big talks are 29 shekel and i think at the pitzuchim store on shmuel hanavi and rechov yoel they are even cheaper.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: how on December 19, 2010, 03:00:17 PM
at "taam po" bagel store near the mir orange big talks are 29 shekel
The store next to the mir stopped selling sim cards or calling cards
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: ash on December 19, 2010, 03:24:55 PM
sky 2000 has a promo with travel cell here is the link http://www.sky2000.com/free_cell.html
i got in the past its free and u just pay for outgoing calls
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: MnM1130 on December 19, 2010, 03:59:20 PM
sky 2000 has a promo with travel cell here is the link http://www.sky2000.com/free_cell.html
i got in the past its free and u just pay for outgoing calls
sorry.. i hate to break the news to you but that is the biggest ripoff ever. my husband worked for talk and save and now he works for another competition cell phone company here in israel- and that by far is the most expensive rates... just in general u should know- all israel phones have free incoming calls, its no special. and you can just about get free cell phone rental just by ASKING a rep in any cell phone company for one (their all such a huge competition that they'll give you anything the competitor is offering and +++  contact my husband at nachi@ampcellular.com hell give you the best rates youll get anywhere... and going with sim cards are the biggest waste of money- your payin almost a shekel a minute- and each shek is above 25 cents.. just think about that.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: MnM1130 on December 19, 2010, 04:49:28 PM
sky 2000 has a promo with travel cell here is the link http://www.sky2000.com/free_cell.html
i got in the past its free and u just pay for outgoing calls
im sorry i made a mistake i thought u wrote talk n save- you wrote travel cell... but its the same deals.. (travel cell happens to be an uncle of mine)
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: elikay on December 19, 2010, 05:56:09 PM
With all due respect, those rental places nickel and dime you. AND never include taxe (15%) in their quotes.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: MnM1130 on December 20, 2010, 05:49:29 AM
With all due respect, those rental places nickel and dime you. AND never includoe taxe (15%) in their quotes.
oh i couldnt agree with you more! but hey.. you cant fight the system. Truth is.. it says everythin straight out in the contracts- just people dont realize how much they talk so it ends up with long expensive bills. rates are not so cheap anywhere- and israel they take you for a ride. but as i repeat.. you cant fight the system. and all those sim cards/big talk cards.. if you would only know how much your payin per call including VAT also.. you would think its a crime to talk altogether. Just people think its cheaper because they TALK less on those phones cus their pay as you go and your more on top of your calls. honestly the best way to go about it, is not talking.. but whos ginna do that??
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 23, 2011, 12:26:47 PM
I rented from Amigo last time and wouldn't touch the data...they wanted 9 cents a KB!
http://www.amigo-us.com/tourist.cfm

would you or do you still rent from Amigo?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: pghtown on October 23, 2011, 02:49:29 PM
I have a DROID 2 Global Cellphone from Verizon.  I think I can unlock and swap the sim card because it is a "global" phone (unlike most other Verizon phones). Has anyone experience with swapping in the Sim card on a verizon global phone? I am going to Israel in December- where can I get a Sim card and how much would it cost? Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 23, 2011, 02:54:47 PM
where can I get a Sim card and how much would it cost? Thanks
In Israel all plans don't carry contracts, so just buy a SIM from one of the 3 providers Orange, Pelephone, Cellcom. The problem is they charge an activation fee (they say its for the SIM card) of 100-200 shekel. Than a month of unlimited data cost approx 100 shekel. Pelephone is the fastest internet by far. They have unlimited data for 79/month, but it will take coaxing. They charge more than Orange for the SIM though.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yeki89 on October 23, 2011, 03:00:02 PM
In Israel all plans don't carry contracts, so just buy a SIM from one of the 3 providers Orange, Pelephone, Cellcom. The problem is they charge an activation fee (they say its for the SIM card) of 100-200 shekel. Than a month of unlimited data cost approx 100 shekel. Pelephone is the fastest internet by far. They have unlimited data for 79/month, but it will take coaxing. They charge more than Orange for the SIM though.
i went into an orange store on malchie yisroel, spoke to roy, he wanted to charge me 150 shekel for a sim - only 100 if i sign that day. i said forget it and started walking out out. he said you know what i'll give it to you for free it you sign now.... needless to say... it was free
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 23, 2011, 03:02:53 PM
i went into an orange store on malchie yisroel, spoke to roy, he wanted to charge me 150 shekel for a sim - only 100 if i sign that day. i said forget it and started walking out out. he said you know what i'll give it to you for free it you sign now.... needless to say... it was free
Everything is possible! but chances are you'd get charged that fee anyway. I always record conversations like those.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 23, 2011, 05:08:27 PM
but if your only going for a few days is that still the best and easiest?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 23, 2011, 05:14:55 PM
but if your only going for a few days is that still the best and easiest?
if youb need a lot of data. Otherwise just buy a roaming package
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2011, 05:19:17 PM
I have a DROID 2 Global Cellphone from Verizon.  I think I can unlock and swap the sim card because it is a "global" phone (unlike most other Verizon phones). Has anyone experience with swapping in the Sim card on a verizon global phone? I am going to Israel in December- where can I get a Sim card and how much would it cost? Thanks

You shouldn't have a problem. Call Verizon to make sure it is unlocked. Buy a sim Card anywhere in Israel... approx 80 shekel depending on where/what you are buying.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: pghtown on October 23, 2011, 08:12:52 PM
Thanks everyone for the tips on Sim Cards in Israel.  When referring to a Sim card with unlimited data for 80-100 shekel per month, does that include cellphone calls to USA?  When I travel to Israel this year I will mostly use my phone for international calls, and will be there only for one week.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 23, 2011, 08:36:10 PM
Thanks everyone for the tips on Sim Cards in Israel.  When referring to a Sim card with unlimited data for 80-100 shekel per month, does that include cellphone calls to USA?  When I travel to Israel this year I will mostly use my phone for international calls, and will be there only for one week.
int'l calls are 2.5 shekel per minute, unless u have a specific plan. Or a samrtphone with VOIP
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 23, 2011, 09:17:28 PM
i had an orange plan and i just lost the sim card and i wanted to give the plan over to someone going there for the year but i need a new sim card.
before i give a call to orange, would anyone know how i can replace a sim card for minimum charge?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 03:04:34 AM
i had an orange plan and i just lost the sim card and i wanted to give the plan over to someone going there for the year but i need a new sim card.
before i give a call to orange, would anyone know how i can replace a sim card for minimum charge?
just call them, play it stupid & say u have to close the acct b/c u lost the SIM. Israel has amazing retention departments - they will do anything. BTW what plan do u have?
P.s. - be aware changing ownership is complicated
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 24, 2011, 07:45:53 AM
just call them, play it stupid & say u have to close the acct b/c u lost the SIM. Israel has amazing retention departments - they will do anything. BTW what plan do u have?
P.s. - be aware changing ownership is complicated
Good idea. And I'm not changing ownerships - I'm giving it to my brother and I'm leaving it on my CC and my name
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Name Changed on October 24, 2011, 08:36:23 AM
just call them, play it stupid & say u have to close the acct b/c u lost the SIM. Israel has amazing retention departments - they will do anything. BTW what plan do u have?
P.s. - be aware changing ownership is complicated

I have done that ... I lost my phone and called them that I want to cancel ... They let no problem
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 08:48:17 AM
I have done that ... I lost my phone and called them that I want to cancel ... They let no problem
of course they let u cancel. They must by law. What I'm saying is that they'll give u anything to entice u to stay
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 24, 2011, 05:24:15 PM
of course they let u cancel. They must by law. What I'm saying is that they'll give u anything to entice u to stay
not exactly - i called them today and did exactly that and the first guy said "you dont have to cancel, ill give you a new one" but then i got disconnected and the second guy said that it cost 99 NIS but since i said ill cancel he gave me a discount of 40 NIS so = 59 NIS
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AsherO on October 24, 2011, 05:28:50 PM
not exactly - i called them today and did exactly that and the first guy said "you dont have to cancel, ill give you a new one" but then i got disconnected and the second guy said that it cost 99 NIS but since i said ill cancel he gave me a discount of 40 NIS so = 59 NIS

HUCA!!! (why pay 59 NIS if you can have it for free...)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 24, 2011, 05:42:15 PM
well what i didnt say is that really it wasnt really 2 CSR i spoke to. it was more like 10 bec they kept on sending me to the next person bec i asked them to send me the sim card to an address in israel, and finally after waiting on the line for so long and got disconneted twice, he gave me a discount - not free. so i had no patience to call again (calling from america) -
but maybe ill try again later

any ideas of a story i can tell them? ;) not all these israelis buy the canceling story
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: satturn on October 25, 2011, 06:05:38 PM
ive lost my phone in israel and they just handed me a new sim for free without any problems. Also if you are getting a new plan, if you push them that you will only sign up if the sim is free they very well might, i got a free sim from orange without a problem. ( told them i was going to cellcom). If your are not israeli, its better to sign up at one of the dealers not at the official branches or over the phone. On the phone they many times will not give you a plan without an Israeli ID number, but the dealers get paid for each sign up they get, they can care less if you pay your bill or not, and they will be fine with a passport number. (or even a drivers license number sometimes!)
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 25, 2011, 06:09:47 PM
I used my drivers license by cellcom then I switched to orange and I used my passport number (as well as by a few other places) but when telephone offered me a great deal once and I wanted to sign up they told me I need a ת.ז. And passport not good enough
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 25, 2011, 08:09:34 PM
I used my drivers license by cellcom then I switched to orange and I used my passport number (as well as by a few other places) but when telephone offered me a great deal once and I wanted to sign up they told me I need a ת.ז. And passport not good enough
It can be done, as long as you use an Israeli form of payment. Bank acct or Israeli CC.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 25, 2011, 09:59:39 PM
on the topic, i know that BOA is together with bank leumi, and i dont think there is an atm fee if u use ur BOA card in their atm's.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AsherO on October 25, 2011, 10:12:05 PM
on the topic, i know that BOA is together with bank leumi, and i dont think there is an atm fee if u use ur BOA card in their atm's.

LOL, I was just talking (in person) to another DDF member about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_ATM_Alliance#Bank_of_America_Account_Holders.5B2.5D) today, lets see if he notices this post ;)

Edit, here's the official BofA description (http://infocenter.bankofamerica.com/ic2/atm/getting-started/?panel=qna&qna=x400#question400). Notice, they still charge 1-3% FX fee.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 25, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
LOL, I was just talking (in person) to another DDF member about this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_ATM_Alliance#Bank_of_America_Account_Holders.5B2.5D) today.
what a coincidence (http://www.google.com/imgres?q=hashgacha+pratis&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS436US436&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=Ou_qI0x9cOTtVM:&imgrefurl=http://www.pirchei.co.il/hashgaha/index.htm&docid=Rn7loiSFwtxEhM&imgurl=http://www.pirchei.co.il/hashgaha/title.jpg&w=450&h=260&ei=QG2nTq3XKIzciAL2g83DDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=173&vpy=167&dur=712&hovh=171&hovw=296&tx=182&ty=113&sig=106723025030809969405&page=1&tbnh=117&tbnw=202&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0) !

all i know is that when i was in israel and i used my debit cars, i was charged 2% for transactions and $5 for atm withdrawels (not leumi)

and also on the topic of BOA - whos gonna continue with them, if the start this? (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110929-709314.html)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AsherO on October 25, 2011, 10:28:38 PM
what a coincidence (http://www.google.com/imgres?q=hashgacha+pratis&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS436US436&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=Ou_qI0x9cOTtVM:&imgrefurl=http://www.pirchei.co.il/hashgaha/index.htm&docid=Rn7loiSFwtxEhM&imgurl=http://www.pirchei.co.il/hashgaha/title.jpg&w=450&h=260&ei=QG2nTq3XKIzciAL2g83DDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=173&vpy=167&dur=712&hovh=171&hovw=296&tx=182&ty=113&sig=106723025030809969405&page=1&tbnh=117&tbnw=202&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0)
and also on the topic of BOA - whos gonna continue with them, if the start this? (http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110929-709314.html)

That article states as follows:

Quote from: WSJ article
The fee will apply to customers with various checking accounts during any month they use their debit card to make a purchase. The fee will not apply to customers who do not use their debit card to make a purchase or who only use it to make ATM transactions.

Anyone who uses their debit card for purchases should get fined the $5 fee, serves them right :P

Perhaps this discussion should be forked (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=10852.msg133224#msg133224) as well.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 25, 2011, 10:34:46 PM
forked (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=10852.msg133224#msg133224)

excuse my ignorance...

but what does forked mean?!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AsherO on October 25, 2011, 10:37:54 PM
but what does forked mean?!

A sub-thread of off-topic posts separated to a new thread.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on October 30, 2011, 02:18:27 PM
Does anyone know of a non 1-800 number to get in touch with Orange Big Talk in Israel? I want to call to ask them about some rates.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on October 30, 2011, 02:38:11 PM
Does anyone know of a non 1-800 number to get in touch with Orange Big Talk in Israel? I want to call to ask them about some rates.
try (617) 600-4008 and see here  (http://www.israelsims.com/orangesim.html)for more details

or try here (http://orange.co.il/he-il/general/ContactUs/call/) and they have various american numbers but only for regular CS or international Orange but they might have a number for big talk
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on October 30, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
Does anyone know of a non 1-800 number to get in touch with Orange Big Talk in Israel? I want to call to ask them about some rates.
Use this for their main customer service line: +972 3 905 4054
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on November 01, 2011, 11:53:22 AM
sorry if this is the wrong section...if i have an iphone with the skype or google voice app...can i use a wifi network to call the usa for free?

how would it work exactly?

TIA
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: gozalim on November 01, 2011, 01:56:39 PM
sorry if this is the wrong section...if i have an iphone with the skype or google voice app...can i use a wifi network to call the usa for free?

how would it work exactly?

TIA
for skype you would need to pay skype a few dollars for call-out credit (unless you're talking to other skype members)
for google voice you would need to pair it with a SIP account and a softphone app
more details here: http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2639.30

anyone know of any (free) softphone apps for iPhone?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on November 01, 2011, 03:22:16 PM
sorry if this is the wrong section...if i have an iphone with the skype or google voice app...can i use a wifi network to call the usa for free?

how would it work exactly?

TIA
I can't testify personally but I know someone who uses an app called Whistle to make free calls from abroad to the U.S. You listen to a short ad then can talk free for 20 mins.

http://itunes.apple.com/app/whistle-phone/id322326573?mt=8
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on November 01, 2011, 04:47:42 PM
I can't testify personally but I know someone who uses an app called Whistle to make free calls from abroad to the U.S.
i could testify - i used whistle app when i was in israel and it used to be unlimeted caling -  now they made it 20 min free per call (still decent) and textfree app  (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/textfree-voice-free-text-calls/id399355755?mt=8)to text is the best for text
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on November 02, 2011, 08:29:05 PM
seems like line2 is the way to go
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on November 03, 2011, 03:19:36 AM
You can use talkatone with GV for free. No limit
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on November 03, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
You can use talkatone with GV for free. No limit
+1. i used that as well - fgt to mention it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on November 23, 2011, 04:26:37 PM
Can you add a data package to an Orange Big talk account? I called and the lady said no but just want to double check.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on November 24, 2011, 10:01:47 PM
Can you add a data package to an Orange Big talk account? I called and the lady said no but just want to double check.
Yes you can add data feature to a Big Talk plan, with a rate of 4 NIS per MB.
Source: Orange website (http://www.orange.co.il/cellular/service_plans/big_talk/) (Hebrew)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cbs on November 26, 2011, 06:51:10 PM
Yes you can add data feature to a Big Talk plan, with a rate of 4 NIS per MB.
Source: Orange website (http://www.orange.co.il/cellular/service_plans/big_talk/) (Hebrew)
thats very expensive
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: caliheat on November 28, 2011, 08:29:00 PM
Either
IsraelPhones.com

or

http://www.worldsimtravel.com/

The latter has global sims, and many other countries. Good Jewish fellow from Boro Park / Israel (Avi Feigenbaum)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yossi4k on November 28, 2011, 11:37:40 PM
Just giving the heads up you can now get the Pantech Link for $26 from go phone which is quad-band. I dont know if ATT has the unlock code for it but they do have the code for the ATT F160
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/get-started/index.jsp?q_returnUrl=/cell-phone-service/packages/packages-details.jsp%3Fq_package%3Dsku5190238
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on January 23, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Can you add a data package to an Orange Big talk account? I called and the lady said no but just want to double check.
Just saw on Orange's website (http://www.orange.co.il/he-il/cellular/packages/packages/bigtalk_surf/) they offer data packages for prepaid BigTalk at great rates.

500 MB - 49 NIS
5 GB - 99 NIS
20 GB - 149 NIS

Can be added/removed anytime
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on January 23, 2012, 06:29:03 PM
Just saw on Orange's website (http://www.orange.co.il/he-il/cellular/packages/packages/bigtalk_surf/) they offer data packages for prepaid BigTalk at great rates.

500 MB - 49 NIS
5 GB - 99 NIS
20 GB - 149 NIS

Can be added/removed anytime

Ill have to try again next time Im there. Wish they had better customer service.

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Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: netzih on January 23, 2012, 07:14:46 PM
So I'm going to Israel for 2 weeks (starting the end of february) I do not really need the minutes just for emergency but I would like unlimited data what's the best price I can get for that? (I already have a phone I just need a sim)
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on January 24, 2012, 03:06:42 PM
Ill have to try again next time Im there. Wish they had better customer service.

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I know everyone always complains about their customer service, but I have honestly had only very positive experiences in the past year, whether by phone, email, or in-store.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Wolf on January 25, 2012, 12:33:22 AM
So I'm going to Israel for 2 weeks (starting the end of february) I do not really need the minutes just for emergency but I would like unlimited data what's the best price I can get for that? (I already have a phone I just need a sim)
Hitech in Boropark located @13-47 has great int'l plans, they offered me $10 per day unlimited data, or $30 per week.
If you don't live in BP, then call them up they might b able to ship it to u.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on January 25, 2012, 08:47:55 AM
Hitech in Boropark located @13-47 has great int'l plans, they offered me $10 per day unlimited data, or $30 per week.
If you don't live in BP, then call them up they might b able to ship it to u.
It seems like the Orange Big Talk would be cheaper. And then you would own the Sim Card.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 25, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
It seems like the Orange Big Talk would be cheaper. And then you would own the Sim Card.

That's ridiculously overpriced for just Israel. I'm assuming he means international that it works all over the world
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Wolf on January 26, 2012, 01:04:56 AM
It seems like the Orange Big Talk would be cheaper. And then you would own the Sim Card.


I guess its because calling on this plan is very cheap like 10 cents all dest... Including incoming USA number.
Do you know how much orange charges for Web/talk local and USA?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on January 26, 2012, 08:36:12 PM
So I'm going to Israel for 2 weeks (starting the end of february) I do not really need the minutes just for emergency but I would like unlimited data what's the best price I can get for that? (I already have a phone I just need a sim)
Travelcell has unlimited data sim cards for $5 a day and they can ship via ups
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 03, 2012, 12:05:00 AM
....so what would be good option for SIM for blackberry for week in israel and UK? 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 03, 2012, 10:21:05 AM
....so what would be good option for SIM for blackberry for week in israel and UK?
in order to get the best calling rates in both places you are best off with 2 sims. an israel bb sim wont have free data outside of israel but a UK bb sim may have free roaming data. how long will you be in each place?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: netzih on February 04, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
Travelcell has unlimited data sim cards for $5 a day and they can ship via ups
I have a full day stop in Amsterdam on the way there and Paris the way back will this give me unlimited data in those places fire the same $5

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Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on February 04, 2012, 07:51:54 PM
....so what would be good option for SIM for blackberry for week in israel and UK? 

travelcell in ny?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 04, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
I have a full day stop in Amsterdam on the way there and Paris the way back will this give me unlimited data in those places fire the same $5

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The UK bb sim will give you unlimted data in both places but you wouldn't want to use it for calls in israel
Its probably best to take a sim for a bb with unlimited data and take a separate israel phones for calls while in israel.


travelcell in ny?
Yes Travelcell in ny.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 06, 2012, 11:26:32 PM
in order to get the best calling rates in both places you are best off with 2 sims. an israel bb sim wont have free data outside of israel but a UK bb sim may have free roaming data. how long will you be in each place?
thanx  but isnt that lil complicated? where to get each?
stop over in UK only for the day so i guess not that important although would be nice to have internet
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 07, 2012, 10:26:24 AM
thanx  but isnt that lil complicated? where to get each?
stop over in UK only for the day so i guess not that important although would be nice to have internet

if you dont need to make calls in the UK than just get an israel BB sim and avoid using in the UK. im not sure if im supposed to add links here but  you can easily find them.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 07, 2012, 02:58:02 PM
if you dont need to make calls in the UK than just get an israel BB sim and avoid using in the UK. im not sure if im supposed to add links here but  you can easily find them.
thanx   talknsave?  why do i assume they are the most expensive always taking advantage of naive tourists and students
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 07, 2012, 03:22:25 PM
i am referring to Travelcell
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on February 07, 2012, 04:59:28 PM
thanx   talknsave?  why do i assume they are the most expensive always taking advantage of naive tourists and students
I would avoid Talk n Steal.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 08, 2012, 12:25:18 AM
oh sorry  travelcell is better??

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 08, 2012, 08:23:27 PM
I say go with travelcell. Oddly enough their homepage doesn't work at the moment but you can go directly to the Israel page
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 08, 2012, 09:02:31 PM
and where would cheapest place just for sim and pay as u go?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 08, 2012, 09:06:53 PM
You mean a prepaid carrier within israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 08, 2012, 09:12:25 PM
well the cheapest for week... i know kosher etc the cheapest...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 08, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
Kosher won't have BB sims. If you just need a sim for 1 week than its easy to rent one. Not sure where u live but u can pickup the phone to save on shipping
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 08, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
right gotya thanx  but lets say i jus want reg sim not for bb...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on February 08, 2012, 09:24:39 PM
I only know the rental game. travelcell can rent you the sim without data service for 0.49 per day then yu pay for the calls
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on May 15, 2012, 03:08:30 PM
Israel is undergoing a revolution (http://www.haaretz.com/business/two-new-cell-phone-operators-enter-the-market-fray-with-cut-rate-charges-1.430524) in the cell phone service market. Here's a brief summary of the fantastic new plans (no-contract):

Golan Telecom (http://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/index.php)

9 NIS Plan
Shipping and handling: 39 NIS
Monthly fee: 10 NIS - includes: 60 min, 60 SMS, and 10 MB
Additional minutes: .18 NIS each
Additional SMS: .01 NIS each
Additional data: .09 NIS per MB

Golan Telecom Plan
Shipping and handling: 39 NIS
Monthly fee: 99 NIS - includes: unlimited calls, SMS, and data (throttled after 3 GB), Unlimited calls to 29 Countries (Only by dialing "00" or "+")

Countries included (landlines only):
England, Sweden,Spain, Portugal, Poland, Netherlands, Italy, Hungary, Greece, Germany, France,
Belgium, Austria, Hong Kong, China, ,Singapore, Turkey, South Africa, Switzerland, New Zealand, Ireland,
Ireland, Luxembourg, Australia, Vatican, Hawaii, Argentina, Taiwan

Countries included (landlines and cell phones): U.S.A., Canada


HOT Mobile (https://www.hotmobile.co.il/programs/pages/default.aspx)

10 Agurot Plan
Shipping and handling: Free
Monthly fee: None
Call minutes: .10 NIS each
SMS: .10 NIS each
Data: .10 NIS per MB

Unlimited Plan
Monthly fee: 89 NIS - includes: unlimited calls, SMS, and data (throttled after 3 GB)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on May 15, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
Can these phones be picked up ans were.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 15, 2012, 04:49:49 PM
Hot is only begining service tomorrow at 8 am
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 15, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
Israel is undergoing a revolution (http://www.haaretz.com/business/two-new-cell-phone-operators-enter-the-market-fray-with-cut-rate-charges-1.430524) in the cell phone service market.
That's putting it mildly. Its in the front page of the newspapers and news cycles.

It appears the new companies don't have BIS though.

HOT has its own network complimented by Pelephones, whereas Golan is a virtual operator on Cellcoms. Pelephone is way faster data.


Btw, it is also possible to call abroad for a flat rate of 5 agurot by dialling 015. No registration is required. (Hallo.co.Il)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on May 15, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
Btw, it is also possible to call abroad for a flat rate of 5 agurot by dialling 015. No registration is required. (Hallo.co.Il)
not from a cellphone, add on a few agurot.
But these new plans are indeed very very exciting, wonder if connection will be very bad with golan, and I have not yet found a phone number to contact them, so thats not yet the best sign.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Red on May 15, 2012, 05:02:48 PM
not from a cellphone, add on a few agurot.
But these new plans are indeed very very exciting, wonder if connection will be very bad with golan, and I have not yet found a phone number to contact them, so thats not yet the best sign.

http://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 15, 2012, 05:05:19 PM
not from a cellphone, add on a few agurot.
But these new plans are indeed very very exciting, wonder if connection will be very bad with golan, and I have not yet found a phone number to contact them, so thats not yet the best sign.
Service should be the exact same as Cellcom, being as they lease their network.

Golan has 150 employees, and 500,000 people are waiting to get their service...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: David B on May 15, 2012, 05:09:56 PM
and I have not yet found a phone number to contact them, so thats not yet the best sign.

Found a phone number after a bit of poking around their site....

How do I dial Golan Telecom's Customer Service Center from aborad? (their spelling mistake, not mine)

+972-58-5555858

The call to Golan Telecom's Customer Service Center from a Golan Telecom handsets only  is FREE
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on May 15, 2012, 05:11:21 PM
Hot http://www.hotmobile.co.il/Pages/default.aspx?gclid=CPKC4PHbgbACFQpd3wodNFfMUw (http://www.hotmobile.co.il/Pages/default.aspx?gclid=CPKC4PHbgbACFQpd3wodNFfMUw)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moish on May 16, 2012, 01:51:33 AM
so nothing with blackberry internet service?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 16, 2012, 05:37:43 AM
so nothing with blackberry internet service?
A hot rep I called claimed they do have BIS. They are in the taachna mercazit until 22:00. DO anyone?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on May 16, 2012, 07:48:33 AM
Newspapers have mentioned that a 1000 people could lose jobs in Israel in the phone industry due to the new pricing.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: juda on May 16, 2012, 02:08:53 PM
so nothing with blackberry internet service?
what do you looking for to rent or buy ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on May 16, 2012, 04:04:47 PM
Thanks guys!
I didn't know it was already discussed here.

I tried applying but I'm not Israeli and a תעודת זהות is a must... :(
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on May 16, 2012, 04:05:44 PM
תעודת זהות = Israeli ID
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on May 16, 2012, 06:12:36 PM
You sure you need an Israeli number? I got my Orange plan in a store last year I just gave them my American passport number without a problem, could have even made one up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on May 16, 2012, 06:19:30 PM
You sure you need an Israeli number? I got my Orange plan in a store last year I just gave them my American passport number without a problem, could have even made one up.
Orange is different, Golan is just accepting Israeli TZ at the moment. (Guess they cant yet afford to loose - trust me I know how bochurim screw them..)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on May 16, 2012, 06:22:16 PM
You sure you need an Israeli number? I got my Orange plan in a store last year I just gave them my American passport number without a problem, could have even made one up.

+1
A friend of mine was in the orange store signing up for service and he didn't have his passport at the time and they took his license number instead!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on May 16, 2012, 06:27:26 PM
Oh yes that Orange guy in the store will take anything to sign you up..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on May 16, 2012, 06:32:30 PM
Orange is different, Golan is just accepting Israeli TZ at the moment. (Guess they cant yet afford to loose - trust me I know how bochurim screw them..)
What about Hot? Anyone know if an Israel T.Z. is required?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 16, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
What about Hot? Anyone know if an Israel T.Z. is required?
I thought I replied already, guess bb is messed up.
A hot rep told me a US pp is enough, but that's the same rep who sent me on a fruitless expedtion seeking a Hot store in the taachna Merchazit.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on May 16, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
The HOT plan for 10 agurot looks like a much cheaper version of the "Talkman" that Orange has, which costs 1 shekel a minute (1/10th the cost with HOT). This is good for people that are not in Israel all the time. Can their SIM fit in an Iphone 4S? If I have Orange cell numbers can I transfer them like we do in the States, or do we get new ones?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 16, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
The HOT plan for 10 agurot looks like a much cheaper version of the "Talkman" that Orange has, which costs 1 shekel a minute (1/10th the cost with HOT). This is good for people that are not in Israel all the time. Can their SIM fit in an Iphone 4S? If I have Orange cell numbers can I transfer them like we do in the States, or do we get new ones?
Yes to iphone  and u can transfer.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on May 17, 2012, 08:03:47 AM
I thought I replied already, guess bb is messed up.
A hot rep told me a US pp is enough

Would the bituach leumi 77..... number work? Since it usually works as a TZ and hot/Golan both let you sign up online?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on May 17, 2012, 08:18:58 AM
I wonder what will happen to the kosher plans as people wont sit by and get ripped off every month just for 'keeping kosher'...I'm paying 40 nis per month for 1k minutes to landlines and 1k minutes to kosher cell on cellcom...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 17, 2012, 12:05:56 PM
Would the bituach leumi 77..... number work? Since it usually works as a TZ and hot/Golan both let you sign up online?
77 # works for Pelephone, so presuambly would work for golan.

I'm # 121 at Hot (malcha) now. They have 2 pcs and are holding at approx # 50. Not accepting customers for today anymore. Manager here claims no BIS...
It seems they don't take a US pp either.
#ohwell
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on May 17, 2012, 01:43:42 PM
Signing up online with a US passport # won't work?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 17, 2012, 01:51:20 PM
The national number-porting system is down. Officially it won't be up again until Sunday.

Hot people say they have 100,000 new customers in the past few days, though the news had entirely different numbers.

They do not currently have BIS, but hope to get it in a week or two.

One manager told me a passport is OK, another refused. The lenient one later subdued herself to that guy who refused, however this might indicate it being his personal policy.

Online orders will ship in one month.

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on May 22, 2012, 12:49:50 PM
What is the best rate plan for me in orange?

I currently have 680 kosher minutes for 38 shekel, and every non kosher minute for 0.49 agurot.

The non-kosher minutes are a killer.

I pay international calling (013 - netvision) 0.08 agurot a minute. I use 1000 a month.

I need the following:
- 100 Kosher minutes
- 200 Non kosher minutes
- Prefer to stick with my kosher number.

- I can pay 0.02 agurot a minute through localphone.com (calling card) but it uses landline minutes. (so it will only be kiday if I have landline minutes included in my plan.)
Which I would need about 1000.

I was thinking about switching to the kosher unlimited plan for 125 shekel a month which will be kiday for me because I will be saving on my international calling.

Btw - the kosher unlimited is the same price as the non-kosher unlimited, which includes also unlimited data and sms. Doesn't make sense to me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: moko on May 23, 2012, 12:08:22 AM
I wonder what will happen to the kosher plans as people wont sit by and get ripped off every month just for 'keeping kosher'...I'm paying 40 nis per month for 1k minutes to landlines and 1k minutes to kosher cell on cellcom...
they seem to be offering kosher #s just they dont do the phones
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on May 23, 2012, 05:10:50 AM
Has anyone successfully signed up for HOT Mobile without a teudat zehut?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on May 23, 2012, 06:03:06 AM
Has anyone successfully signed up for HOT Mobile without a teudat zehut?

Anyone Golan Telecom?
Title: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: Judah on May 23, 2012, 03:40:06 PM
If you haven't heard a new cell carrier launched last week in Israel: Golan Telecom
They are offering a plan that seems will bring down costs from all carriers if not put some of them out of business:

For NIS 99/Month (aprox $25/month):

Unlimited Domestic Calls
Unlimited International Calls to 29 Countries (US and Canada included)
Unlimited SMS
Unlimited Data
No Contract/Commitment
Keep Your Number from Previous Carrier

They use Cellcom's Towers as they are in the process of putting up their own (No roaming charges)


Orange already responded with offering unlimited plan for NIS 125/Month and doesn't include international.

Linky: https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/ (click English on top if needed)

See JPost article about it: http://www.jpost.com/Business/Globes/Article.aspx?id=269984 (Seems there is a competitor offering unlimited for NIS 89/month but doesn't include international)
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: Yitz on May 23, 2012, 03:49:54 PM
Nice information
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: sky121 on May 23, 2012, 03:50:48 PM
I wish a large American carrier would do this.
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: Jkhein on May 23, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
@ OP judah, wait till you get to know JEWDA...
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: robi on May 23, 2012, 03:58:04 PM
I wish a large American carrier would do this.
I believe simple mobile does it for 45$
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: Judah on May 23, 2012, 04:00:22 PM
Interesting btw, about saying a US carrier should do this. A few years back when either Verizon or Sprint came out with 'Unlimited Everything Plan' I read experts predicting the change in the US mobile market because the plans will be simple to compare from each carrier and competition will get fierce (where consumer usually wins.) However, I think what prevented it from really changing is that everyone is willing to sign up for a 2 year contracts to get new phones. So they are stuck in contracts and that slows any competition of jumping to carrier with better priced plan.

In Israel they made contracts and locked phones completely illegal. This was needed to force the carriers to be competitive (with all the other regulations etc). So with the scenario like it is, this could really change the Israeli mobile market.
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: YudiG on May 23, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
Interesting btw, about saying a US carrier should do this. A few years back when either Verizon or Sprint came out with 'Unlimited Everything Plan' I read experts predicting the change in the US mobile market because the plans will be simple to compare from each carrier and competition will get fierce (where consumer usually wins.) However, I think what prevented it from really changing is that everyone is willing to sign up for a 2 year contracts to get new phones. So they are stuck in contracts and that slows any competition of jumping to carrier with better priced plan.

In Israel they made contracts and locked phones completely illegal. This was needed to force the carriers to be competitive (with all the other regulations etc). So with the scenario like it is, this could really change the Israeli mobile market.

+1
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: AsherO on May 23, 2012, 04:11:03 PM
For NIS 99/Month (aprox $25/month):

Not much of a margin there, sounds a bit too low, especially with the unl. offering (which tends to specifically attract the heaviest users).

They use Cellcom's Towers as they are in the process of putting up their own (No roaming charges)

It's going to cost them many $100Ms to roll out a network like Israel's big three, hard to recover those costs when your annual revenue per user is $300...

In Israel they made contracts and locked phones completely illegal. This was needed to force the carriers to be competitive (with all the other regulations etc). So with the scenario like it is, this could really change the Israeli mobile market.

Regulatory agencies in Israel actually protect consumer interests. Here in America they're all in bed with the mega-corporations.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Judah on May 23, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Not much of a margin there, sounds a bit too low, especially with the unl. offering (which tends to specifically attract the heaviest users).

Regulatory agencies in Israel actually protect consumer interests. Here in America they're all in bed with the mega-corporations.

I don't know exactly the costs incurred to the carrier to quantify their profit projections or opine on their business plan, but the Jpost article mentioned that this already was done in France and is being backed by big investor from there. Also, it should be noted that the unlimited international is to land line only except to US and Canada which is unlimited to mobile numbers as well. I think this is because other countries have mobile connect fees while US and Canada do not.

PS sorry for not OP'ing in the right place, the other topic looked little stale
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: Yossi. on May 23, 2012, 04:19:42 PM
Nice information
+1
Title: Re: This Is Going to Change the Israeli Mobile Carrier Market
Post by: cozmohoot on May 23, 2012, 04:24:20 PM
+1
wasnt that posted 2 pages ago?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Judah on May 23, 2012, 04:31:36 PM
wasnt that posted 2 pages ago?


PS sorry for not OP'ing in the right place, the other topic looked little stale
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on May 23, 2012, 04:33:50 PM
its all good. these threads were merged
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on May 23, 2012, 05:35:49 PM
Sounds to good to be true. Anyone signed up yet?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on May 23, 2012, 06:57:44 PM
Since the flow of the thread was completely ruined by the awkward merge, i am repeating my (and another poster's) question:

Has anyone successfully signed up for HOT Mobile or Golan Telecom without a teudat zehut?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AsherO on May 23, 2012, 07:33:31 PM
I don't know exactly the costs incurred to the carrier to quantify their profit projections or opine on their business plan, but the Jpost article mentioned that this already was done in France and is being backed by big investor from there. Also, it should be noted that the unlimited international is to land line only except to US and Canada which is unlimited to mobile numbers as well. I think this is because other countries have mobile connect fees while US and Canada do not.

I'm just doing rough math and ignoring all other costs besides the cost of building out a network (I'm also ignoring other potential revenue streams), and on the back of a napkin it doesn't look good.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Judah on May 24, 2012, 03:08:52 AM
I'm just doing rough math and ignoring all other costs besides the cost of building out a network (I'm also ignoring other potential revenue streams), and on the back of a napkin it doesn't look good.
Well I guess the only way to know is to have the info.
I will point out about the 'building of a network' you mentioned, Golan seems to be slowly building their own towers and renting from Cellcom in the meantime for non-covered locations. So their plan seems to be to get there step by step, which is something that makes me optimistic with big ideas like these and probably reflects a business plan that was proven in France. However, renting from cellcom and not passing roaming charges on to the customer could mean a plan to take loss in the short-term. The other thing to realize is that if that the towers they do own (and more as they keep building) could already be bringing in revenue from rentals from other carriers, especially since there are a few others that just broke into the market.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Judah on May 24, 2012, 03:13:34 AM
Since the flow of the thread was completely ruined by the awkward merge, i am repeating my (and another poster's) question:

Has anyone successfully signed up for HOT Mobile or Golan Telecom without a teudat zehut?
Sounds to good to be true. Anyone signed up yet?

My brother is in the process of signing up with Golan. I will try to keep you posted.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AsherO on May 24, 2012, 03:28:00 AM
Well I guess the only way to know is to have the info.

I never professed to have the knowledge, I'm just talking hypothetically, and you haven't refuted any of my logic.

I will point out about the 'building of a network' you mentioned, Golan seems to be slowly building their own towers and renting from Cellcom in the meantime for non-covered locations. So their plan seems to be to get there step by step, which is something that makes me optimistic with big ideas like these and probably reflects a business plan that was proven in France. However, renting from cellcom and not passing roaming charges on to the customer could mean a plan to take loss in the short-term. The other thing to realize is that if that the towers they do own (and more as they keep building) could already be bringing in revenue from rentals from other carriers, especially since there are a few others that just broke into the market.

If roaming costs are of any significance (and I'm under the impression they won't be so low in this case), they'll be paying more to subsidize their userbase (who'll initially be roaming 100% of the time) than they'll ever make collecting roaming charges from those who roam on their network once it's built out (sine that number will in-all-likelyhood be lower, as they won't have as many unl. subscribers roaming exclusively on their network).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on June 01, 2012, 04:09:10 AM
any updates...which is the best new unlimited plan for one who wants a blackberry?

what about for one who wants to get a sim and put it into a android phone unlocked from usa?

TIA
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jtown on June 01, 2012, 05:07:48 PM
A hot rep I called claimed they do have BIS. They are in the taachna mercazit until 22:00. DO anyone?


Hot don't support BIS ,
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jtown on June 01, 2012, 05:15:05 PM
The national number-porting system is down. Officially it won't be up again until Sunday.

Hot people say they have 100,000 new customers in the past few days, though the news had entirely different numbers.

They do not currently have BIS, but hope to get it in a week or two.

One manager told me a passport is OK, another refused. The lenient one later subdued herself to that guy who refused, however this might indicate it being his personal policy.

Online orders will ship in one month.


PlatinumGuy

I'm assure you that thy don't have 100000 new customers , not even 10000
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jtown on June 01, 2012, 05:26:04 PM
About Golan:

i sign up to Golan , take the sim to arrive for 16 days after i sign up.
for me it's works perfect , but a lot of complaines on the FB page , i assume thy have a lot of issues on the beginning , but thy will fix it later.
https://www.facebook.com/GolanTelecom


Cellcom is offering interesting package :

199 unlimited everything , include calls worldwide true 013 NETVISION and text and web unlimited
Bis package for extra 5 Shekel

or 3 lines with the same package for 399

if you on cellcom on this package and you travel often to israel , just forward your call's to your american phone while you in the state and continue getting calls from Israel

very good for boucherim
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on June 02, 2012, 04:32:55 PM
Orange:

125 Shekel unlimited calls and texts
39 Shekel extra for Blackberry Service
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 02, 2012, 05:31:08 PM
Orange:

125 Shekel unlimited calls and texts
and data (I think 5 mb) but no international.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on June 02, 2012, 06:24:04 PM
do you get a blackberry device with the plan or do you need to buy one?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jtown on June 03, 2012, 06:38:27 AM
need to buy one , but do you self a favor and don't buy it in Orange
the data plan on orange is Unlimited for blackberry .

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on June 03, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
need to buy one , but do you self a favor and don't buy it in Orange
the data plan on orange is Unlimited for blackberry .



so far, is the orange 125 shekel the best deal for blackberry?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on June 03, 2012, 04:20:46 PM
so far, is the orange 125 shekel the best deal for blackberry?
Just pointing out that if you use less than 500 combined minutes and SMS, then it's cheaper to go on the orange 25 agurot plan. Unlimited BIS data is another 39 NIS on any plan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on June 03, 2012, 04:29:19 PM
Just pointing out that if you use less than 500 combined minutes and SMS, then it's cheaper to go on the orange 25 agurot plan. Unlimited BIS data is another 39 NIS on any plan.

whats the add on if less than 500 min per month? shouldnt be an issue...but curious..thx for pointing out
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 03, 2012, 04:42:06 PM
orange 25 agurot plan.
Please elaborate
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on June 03, 2012, 05:13:54 PM
Please elaborate

i think its on their website
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on June 03, 2012, 11:31:09 PM
Please elaborate
25 agurot per minute, SMS, and MB (data doesn't count with unlimited BIS add on)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 04, 2012, 07:38:24 AM
, and MB (data doesn't count with unlimited BIS add on)

As in, unlimited data with BIS or only 1mb even with BIS??
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 04, 2012, 08:36:01 AM
25 agurot per minute, SMS, and MB (data doesn't count with unlimited BIS add on)
Golan has 10,1(yes 1, not 10),10. No BB. My brother got a sim by ordering online. No TZ required
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on June 04, 2012, 11:29:26 AM
I need a pay as you go plan like Orange's Talkman. They chanrge me 1 shekel per minute. HOT is 10 agurot per minute. Anybody get this plan without a teudat zehut?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on June 04, 2012, 04:34:59 PM
My brother got a sim by ordering online. No TZ required

Can you ask him how? It says that its a mandatory field...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 04, 2012, 04:38:55 PM
Can you ask him how? It says that its a mandatory field...
try passport or me'uchedet number
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on June 04, 2012, 04:45:49 PM
Tried passport but it includes letters and don't have meuchedet  :(
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 04, 2012, 04:54:02 PM
Tried passport but it includes letters and don't have meuchedet  :(
make up a number, 9 digits starting with 770  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on June 07, 2012, 05:19:53 PM
I am waiting to see someone get a normal bill at the end of the month.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 08, 2012, 04:06:23 AM
Might not be SUCH a big breakthrough after all...
I heard on the radio today that they have been ordered to stop allowing free international calls untill they get proper licenses etc which they will not be allowed to get.
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000754444&fid=1725

might aswell stay with your old network provider for another 25 shekel a month.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 06:23:33 AM
I'm headed ti IL soon.. How do i figure out if I can use my cell with a Golan or Hot sim?

I currently have a Tmobile phone (not unlocked AFAIK).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: David B on June 11, 2012, 02:13:51 PM
I'm headed ti IL soon.. How do i figure out if I can use my cell with a Golan or Hot sim?

I currently have a Tmobile phone (not unlocked AFAIK).

Thanks.

You need to unlock your phone -- absent that, it will not work with any other carrier other than T-Mobile.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 02:35:43 PM
You need to unlock your phone -- absent that, it will not work with any other carrier other than T-Mobile.
Thanks
And do you by any chance know what the cheapest way to do that is?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 11, 2012, 02:57:05 PM
Thanks
And do you by any chance know what the cheapest way to do that is?
Call T-mobile. Federal law requires them to give you the unlock code. Just don't call them from the cellphone you want to unlock
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
I'm headed ti IL soon.. How do i figure out if I can use my cell with a Golan or Hot sim?

I currently have a Tmobile phone (not unlocked AFAIK).

Thanks.
What phone? You need to find out which GSM bands it has.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 03:21:34 PM
Call T-mobile. Federal law requires them to give you the unlock code. Just don't call them from the cellphone you want to unlock
Oh, I forgot!  I'm actually now on Simple Mobile (I switched a few months ago).
Any hope still?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 03:22:14 PM
What phone? You need to find out which GSM bands it has.
Tmobile HTC Sensation 4G
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2012, 03:24:01 PM
Tmobile HTC Sensation 4G
You're good once you unlock it.

850/900/1800/1900
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 03:26:10 PM
You're good once you unlock it.

850/900/1800/1900
Thanks
And do you by any chance know what the cheapest way to do that is?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2012, 03:27:08 PM
Find someone with TMo.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
Find someone with TMo.
And then?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 11, 2012, 05:40:17 PM
And then?
Pop his sim into ur phone and call tmo
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 05:58:39 PM
Pop his sim into ur phone and call tmo
Oh, ok, I got it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jtown on June 12, 2012, 07:42:45 PM
if you get Golan , you can you your phone as a Wireless Hot Spot for no extra fee unlimited fast internet .
thy claim that if you do so , thy slow the speed , but us of now , it's not happening
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 13, 2012, 07:17:08 PM
if you get Golan , you can you your phone as a Wireless Hot Spot for no extra fee unlimited fast internet .
thy claim that if you do so , thy slow the speed , but us of now , it's not happening
I have that on Cellcom for a while now
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2012, 07:33:02 PM
I have that on Cellcom for a while now
i have cellcom kosher and its a disaster i pay a fortune i would say get golan. i signed someone else up and when they leave in a month i will take there iphone. much more worth it!!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2012, 07:45:55 PM
what hechsher is your kosher phone? if it's badatz that could be why you are overpaying. just wondering what a kosher phone actually tastes like?
People travel to wonder at the height of the mountains, at the huge waves of the seas, at the long course of the rivers, at the vast compass of the ocean, at the circular motion of the stars, and yet they pass by themselves without wondering.

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Saver2000 on June 14, 2012, 07:59:05 PM
People travel to wonder at the height of the mountains, at the huge waves of the seas, at the long course of the rivers, at the vast compass of the ocean, at the circular motion of the stars, and yet they pass by themselves without wondering.

Where are you quoting from?

(And btw what does this have anything to do with this thread?  ??? ??? )
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2012, 08:13:44 PM
Where are you quoting from?

(And btw what does this have anything to do with this thread?  ??? ??? )

U-no-me said something my little brother who hates 9th grade wud say.  So I quoted him from his little life story under his name. ..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2012, 08:16:21 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Crazy tools on June 14, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
my kosher phone is rabbanut,
its a kosher plan unlocked sim in an american at&t phone!!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 14, 2012, 11:02:23 PM
my kosher phone is rabbanut,
its a kosher plan unlocked sim in an american at&t phone!!
Very shtatty, I see you have the right connections. Im rethinking the Rimon idea....

btw guys, a few months ago I posted a phone selling for <$10.... The Israeli companies charged $10 ever month (*36) for it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 15, 2012, 02:01:48 AM
Very shtatty, I see you have the right connections. Im rethinking the Rimon idea....

btw guys, a few months ago I posted a phone selling for <$10.... The Israeli companies charged $10 ever month (*36) for it.

go to davidka buy urself a brand new phone for 50 bucks and this way ull never have to be stuck into their 36 month phone payments (even though there sim cards run out after 24 months!) :-)) israeli's are still jews always trying to make a quick buk!:-)  i would give my phone away for free with the sim and someone take over the plan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Crazy tools on June 15, 2012, 06:02:09 AM
going to davidka (FYI Davidka doesn't really have any kosher phones, there's a store on yeshayahu that has alot of kosher phones) will get you some really old nokia snake phone "without snake of course!!!"
but its still worth it not to be meshubad.

@platinumguy, my kosher plan is only kosher (no text or web) its just in an unlocked sim..... u still wanna go to rimon??
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 15, 2012, 06:33:57 AM
Not hard at all to get a kosher unlocked sim.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Crazy tools on June 15, 2012, 06:56:48 AM
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 16, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Not hard at all to get a kosher unlocked sim.

if you know someone in the cellcom he can get the sim work on nun kosher phone ( but no text and web only via WiFi )
if you have connection in Cellcom HQ you can get Kosher # on a regular trief sim , Rabbi Kanievsky driver us to have it , and i know some other people )
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on June 18, 2012, 09:57:07 AM
Orange offered me to get the unlimited non kosher plan, and keep my kosher number. (I will just have to transfer my kosher number to a non kosher sim card)

My question is, people who call me what will it count for them as? A kosher phone call, or a non kosher one?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Smartypantz on June 18, 2012, 10:28:18 AM
I have 2 cellcom Kosher phones that I cancelled the service on, but had to pay up for the phone. Any ideas how to sell these 2 phones?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 12:47:59 PM
I have 2 cellcom Kosher phones that I cancelled the service on, but had to pay up for the phone. Any ideas how to sell these 2 phones?

try on Yad2.co.il
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 12:50:00 PM
Orange offered me to get the unlimited non kosher plan, and keep my kosher number. (I will just have to transfer my kosher number to a non kosher sim card)

My question is, people who call me what will it count for them as? A kosher phone call, or a non kosher one?

I doubt thy offer you such a thing  , it's can get them into a big trouble .
i will suggest you to recheck with them .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 18, 2012, 12:54:52 PM
I doubt thy offer you such a thing  , it's can get them into a big trouble .
i will suggest you to recheck with them .
+1, what they might of meant is, that they will give you the same plan rate as they give for non kosher (125). The only geneiva is, that its the same price and you kosher doesnt even use web and sms.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on June 18, 2012, 03:40:52 PM
I doubt thy offer you such a thing  , it's can get them into a big trouble .
i will suggest you to recheck with them .
more than one rep offered it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on June 18, 2012, 03:42:05 PM
+1, what they might of meant is, that they will give you the same plan rate as they give for non kosher (125). The only geneiva is, that its the same price and you kosher doesnt even use web and sms.
maskim on the geneiva part.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 03:48:56 PM
more than one rep offered it.

to keep the Kosher number ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 18, 2012, 03:51:53 PM
if you have connection in Cellcom HQ you can get Kosher # on a regular trief sim , Rabbi Kanievsky driver us to have it , and i know some other people )
I doubt thy offer you such a thing  , it's can get them into a big trouble .
i will suggest you to recheck with them .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 18, 2012, 03:59:52 PM

Trief sim to work in a non kosher phone, not  a trief plan where sms and web work.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 18, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
Trief sim to work in a non kosher phone, not  a trief plan where sms and web work.
I don't think that's what he meant. Every other store in Geula offers that
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 04:08:39 PM



cellcom HQ !!!
not a random guy on the store.

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 18, 2012, 04:11:10 PM

cellcom HQ !!!
not a random guy on the store.


Well maybe it's not as special as you think, and they're offering it to more people now.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 04:15:28 PM
Well maybe it's not as special as you think, and they're offering it to more people now.

it's not about special , it's all about Kosher system etc. if everyone can get a kosher number with nun kosher services , so what is to point ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 18, 2012, 04:29:01 PM
it's not about special , it's all about Kosher system etc. if everyone can get a kosher number with nun kosher services , so what is to point ?

What does having a kosher phone have anything to do with having a kosher number? Peer pressure?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
What does having a kosher phone have anything to do with having a kosher number? Peer pressure?

Peer pressure is only the beginning
you can't advertise on Yated and Hamodia etc. a lot of different schools and TT won't except your kids , etc .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 18, 2012, 05:47:06 PM
Peer pressure is only the beginning
you can't advertise on Yated and Hamodia etc. a lot of different schools and TT won't except your kids , etc .
So pathetic
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on June 18, 2012, 06:39:28 PM
I've got a short trip, and in the past used orange big talk, is it possible to load up the phone before i go, on their website or some  other way? If not is there a place in bengurion that sells the cards?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 18, 2012, 06:41:56 PM
Lately ppl have been getting phines from tak n save in merica. I think its. Around 6$ a. Day
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on June 18, 2012, 06:46:04 PM
Lately ppl have been getting phines from tak n save in merica. I think its. Around 6$ a. Day

Saw that good deal but the minimum is 7 days plus shipping plus tax, comes out about $80 and Im only there a few days.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 18, 2012, 06:52:13 PM
Gotcha. Do u already have a phone? Also if u do get a sim can u activate it in america or ould u b able to riht when u land?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 11:21:04 PM
I've got a short trip, and in the past used orange big talk, is it possible to load up the phone before i go, on their website or some  other way? If not is there a place in bengurion that sells the cards?

https://orange.eprs.co.il/Recharge.aspx


i suggest you to have a Golan sim waiting for you there order with a prepaid c/c
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 18, 2012, 11:21:47 PM
Lately ppl have been getting phines from tak n save in merica. I think its. Around 6$ a. Day

very expensive , you can have for 99 NIS from Golan all unlimited.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2012, 01:43:58 AM
my brother in law told me last night his golan doesnt let him call usa for free..... not sure if its so ligit ...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 19, 2012, 01:48:49 AM
my brother in law told me last night his golan doesnt let him call usa for free..... not sure if its so ligit ...


known issue

http://www.globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1000754402


even then it's cheaper with calling Via 012/013/014/018 then rent from Talk and save .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
oh forsure i think talk and save is a rip off lol  but its the convenience that comes with it. but whats that say bec my screen is not popping up.
also there are ppl who have no probs too dont get me wrong :-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 19, 2012, 03:07:02 AM
oh forsure i think talk and save is a rip off lol  but its the convenience that comes with it. but whats that say bec my screen is not popping up.
also there are ppl who have no probs too dont get me wrong :-)

also me when i fly , i never ask the travel agent how much the corp. pays for it , and how much cloud i save with point's , but if have enough money to spend , so have a line siting for you the whole year pay 99NIS a month , when you back in USA forwarder your calls to your USA cell ( originally it was free )  this way you have a permanent Israeli number works no matter if you here or there
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Smartypantz on June 19, 2012, 09:21:14 AM
try on Yad2.co.il
thanks but: 1)I do not speak fluent hebrew and 2) I am not in Israel. Are there any other ways to sell the phones?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on June 19, 2012, 11:38:15 AM
https://orange.eprs.co.il/Recharge.aspx


i suggest you to have a Golan sim waiting for you there order with a prepaid c/c

Thanks, that link to big talk looks like you need to be signed in to buy and i'm not sure how to do that....

If you could help me through the process of getting a golan or hot sim card that would be great, i read some of the posts and looked around but its confusing to me.

HOT at 10 agurot it looks like that's the best option for a few days trip, if i sign up online should i use a friends name and tz? i need a prepaid credit card not a regular credit card?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2012, 03:38:53 PM

If you could help me through the process of getting a golan or hot sim card that would be great, i read some of the posts and looked around but its confusing to me.


https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 19, 2012, 03:42:11 PM
Thanks, that link to big talk looks like you need to be signed in to buy and i'm not sure how to do that....

If you could help me through the process of getting a golan or hot sim card that would be great, i read some of the posts and looked around but its confusing to me.

HOT at 10 agurot it looks like that's the best option for a few days trip, if i sign up online should i use a friends name and tz? i need a prepaid credit card not a regular credit card?

i would suggest you to go for Hot , but you need to go to the service center , golan deliver to you .
if you want open a line using my TZ you welcome , so long you don't going to screw the system
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 21, 2012, 04:46:43 AM
Find someone with TMo.
I don't know if I'm gonna find someone with a Tmobile sim (to call TM to get the unlock code for my Sensation4g) before I leave to E"Y.  So in case I don't..

Does anybody know who'd be the cheapest to do it?  In USA or Israel?

Someone told me Davidka in Jerus...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 21, 2012, 04:53:01 AM
I'm IYH gonna be in EY for a week and a half.  Which plan would you folks suggest I get when I arrive.

I primarily need the cell to call within Israel and for the Internet (2 GB should more than suffice).

I would like to use it also for calling the USA if my GrooveIP gives me a crappy line..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 21, 2012, 08:04:30 AM
https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/

there is an issue though lately with callimh usa  officially it doesnt go but i think golan is working out a deal
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 21, 2012, 05:09:15 PM
https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/

there is an issue though lately with callimh usa  officially it doesnt go but i think golan is working out a deal

Do you need an Israeli CC for this?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 21, 2012, 05:32:51 PM
no i used my muchedet number and my regular credit card. though, my kosher phone fell into water 2 nights ago i went to the cellcom store in geula today and they cancelled my phone for free (i bought the phone off some guy) and they gave me a new non kosher sim for 10 shek more (someone lent me his iphone for a while) and the plan i have now is cheaper than the kosher i was using!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 21, 2012, 05:58:04 PM
no i used my muchedet number and my regular credit card. though, my kosher phone fell into water 2 nights ago i went to the cellcom store in geula today and they cancelled my phone for free (i bought the phone off some guy) and they gave me a new non kosher sim for 10 shek more (someone lent me his iphone for a while) and the plan i have now is cheaper than the kosher i was using!
whats your non kosher plan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 21, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
it was 49 shek for 1200 min to kosher and landline and every min to non kosher was 1.9 agurot (i think) all i know is i always had and easy 100 shek bill and thats just my phone my wife has similar as well!

instead i switched to a non kosher for 60 shek a month but its like america where it costs a certain amount for minutes and internet and texts and i can use upto 60 shek a month and if i go over then i pay.
- meaning i think its 1.9 agurot a min so technically i have 309 min (w/o anything else) for it to equal 60 shek - which is way more than enough for me
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 21, 2012, 06:42:36 PM
I'm IYH gonna be in EY for a week and a half.  Which plan would you folks suggest I get when I arrive.

I primarily need the cell to call within Israel and for the Internet (2 GB should more than suffice).

I would like to use it also for calling the USA if my GrooveIP gives me a crappy line..

if you have a iPhone and you going this week , i can give you my sim for free .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 21, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
if you have a iPhone and you going this week , i can give you my sim for free .
I am going next week, I don't actively use an iphone, but why would I need an iphone ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 21, 2012, 09:39:31 PM
I am going next week, I don't actively use an iphone, but why would I need an iphone ?

i have a micro sim that i us for the iPad , while i'm here , i don't need it , so if you want to us it , why not.
you have calls , internet , text , unlimited in israel , and crazy chap calls to the state
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 21, 2012, 10:48:14 PM
i have a micro sim that i us for the iPad , while i'm here , i don't need it , so if you want to us it , why not.
you have calls , internet , text , unlimited in israel , and crazy chap calls to the state
Does it only work in iProducts? (apple?)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 22, 2012, 12:54:32 AM
Does it only work in iProducts? (apple?)
YES , only apple that carry micro sim
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 22, 2012, 12:56:51 AM
YES , only apple that carry micro sim
;)  --   :D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 22, 2012, 09:18:09 AM
YES , only apple that carry micro sim
They sell adapters everywhere!!!!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 22, 2012, 09:39:28 AM
Cellcom's new plan for unlimited Israel calls web and text and unlimited international for 160shekel, is quite attractive!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: plainbachur on June 22, 2012, 10:12:05 AM
does golan support an unlocked att blackberry? Will bbm work?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 22, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
does golan support an unlocked att blackberry? Will bbm work?

no!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 22, 2012, 10:24:26 AM
Cellcom's new plan for unlimited Israel calls web and text and unlimited international for 160shekel, is quite attractive!

Any reason why to choose Cellcom over golan?


 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 22, 2012, 10:26:04 AM
Is golan allowing calls to the US yet? Anyone here use Golan that can vouch for it?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 22, 2012, 10:26:38 AM
costumer service, and as of now golans international calling has been turned off....though i still think its not worth it bec download magic jack on ur phone and u get free international calling that way....
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 22, 2012, 10:27:34 AM
Is golan allowing calls to the US yet? Anyone here use Golan that can vouch for it?

i have mixed reviews my brother in law is not able to, yet someone in the park today said he can is able to...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 22, 2012, 10:28:59 AM
i have mixed reviews my brother in law is not able to, yet someone in the park today said he can is able to...

Better to go with Cellcom?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 22, 2012, 10:39:39 AM
depends what u want   its only 17ish more for the knowledge that u wont really have issues....
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 22, 2012, 10:55:50 AM
Cellcom's new plan for unlimited Israel calls web and text and unlimited international for 160shekel, is quite attractive!

Is this plan monthly like Golan? Or is it by contract?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 22, 2012, 11:20:16 AM
yes they work monthly
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 22, 2012, 11:27:25 AM
Is this plan monthly like Golan? Or is it by contract?
Contracts are illegal in Israel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 22, 2012, 11:29:01 AM
Contracts are illegal in Israel

except the phone itself! which is where they get u real bad! go to davidka and buy one there or even bring one in!
its nuts chaikel how the kosher touch is aroiund 450 shek!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 22, 2012, 11:46:29 AM
except the phone itself! which is where they get u real bad! go to davidka and buy one there or even bring one in!
its nuts chaikel how the kosher touch is aroiund 450 shek!
That's not a contract, that just financing the phone. The big difference being as you said, you can just bring along your own phone. I got a a new BB 9930 for $80, brought it to Israel and I have 0 "Hitchayvut"
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 22, 2012, 11:49:19 AM
yes exactly!!! i did the same and cancelled too this past week  with no fee's
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 22, 2012, 12:02:38 PM
does golan support an unlocked att blackberry? Will bbm work?

no
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 22, 2012, 12:04:23 PM
Contracts are illegal in Israel

for privet users.
business still go on orange under a contract
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on June 22, 2012, 03:53:34 PM
Cellcom's new plan for unlimited Israel calls web and text and unlimited international for 160shekel, is quite attractive!

 you sign up at any cellcom store? how do you load the sim, buy a prepaid card and load money on the sim?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 22, 2012, 08:01:57 PM
it's a monthly pay with a credit card / debit card / bank account
but you can cancel it any time

you can sign up in any Cellcom store / agent
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 22, 2012, 08:03:00 PM
it's a monthly pay with a credit card / debit card / bank account
but you can cancel it any time

you can sign up in any Cellcom store / agent

Do you keep the sim and number so you can activate it again a different time?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 22, 2012, 08:05:05 PM
Do you keep the sim and number so you can activate it again a different time?

no , but you can turn it into prepaid , and then go again for monthly payment
no monthly fee on prepaid
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 22, 2012, 08:10:26 PM
no , but you can turn it into prepaid , and then go again for monthly payment
no monthly fee on prepaid

What about with Golan? Same thing?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 22, 2012, 08:33:32 PM
What about with Golan? Same thing?

NO
Once you shot down the account you lost the number
but you can move it to the 10 Shekel plan
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 22, 2012, 08:46:33 PM
NO
Once you shot down the account you lost the number
but you can move it to the 10 Shekel plan

Got it, thanks for all your help!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 23, 2012, 02:08:06 PM
Anyone have experience or comments on ''hot mobile'' ? Reception? Service?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 24, 2012, 04:36:31 AM
Anyone have experience or comments on ''hot mobile'' ? Reception? Service?

where ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 24, 2012, 07:30:12 AM
where ?
In general?  Jlm in particular!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 24, 2012, 10:14:55 AM
In general?  Jlm in particular!

in which area's you are planing of using i can check the coverage map
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on June 24, 2012, 10:38:40 AM
Hot Mobile piggybacks on Pelephone's network so anywhere that Hot doesn't have its own coverage you will get the same coverage as Pelephone. Also keep in mind that they have 0 shekel/month package which you can switch to when you aren't in the country.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: plainbachur on June 24, 2012, 01:48:11 PM
whats the nis160 plan from cellcom? will it support bbm?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 24, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
whats the nis160 plan from cellcom? will it support bbm?

for extra $Nis

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: plainbachur on June 24, 2012, 01:52:14 PM
for extra $Nis
how much?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 24, 2012, 01:53:14 PM
how much?

sorry , 5 shekel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on June 24, 2012, 04:36:44 PM
in which area's you are planing of using i can check the coverage map
Can you post a link of the coverage map
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YOSEF on June 24, 2012, 10:22:51 PM
I'm going to be in E"Y over the summer for under a month.

I'm pretty set on getting service for a BB, and while I read the thread, I'm a bit confused as to my best option.

Most of my calling will probably be within Israel, but would like to know the cost with and without calling to the States.

Also, I'm currently using a Sprint locked CDMA BB in the States, so I'm assuming I also need to pick up a BB.

What are my options?
How does payment work etc?

Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 24, 2012, 10:32:58 PM
I'm going to be in E"Y over the summer for under a month.

I'm pretty set on getting service for a BB, and while I read the thread, I'm a bit confused as to my best option.

Most of my calling will probably be within Israel, but would like to know the cost with and without calling to the States.

Also, I'm currently using a Sprint locked CDMA BB in the States, so I'm assuming I also need to pick up a BB.

What are my options?
How does payment work etc?

Thanks for the help!

Which BB from Sprint are you using? Some have a place for a Sim (gsm) as well.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YOSEF on June 24, 2012, 10:44:36 PM
curve 8520
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 24, 2012, 10:48:45 PM
curve 8520

Ok so you'll need to get a BB. Sprint does offer ones that will work in Israel.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 25, 2012, 12:52:56 AM
Ok so you'll need to get a BB. Sprint does offer ones that will work in Israel.
''

i see over the net there is some with GSM , just check if you have a simcard slot under the battery , if yes you will need to check if it's unlock .
if you don't have a sim slot you will need to get a gsm device .

once you get it you can get for 195 from cellcom , unlimited BB service , net , voice world wide , and text in isreal

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YOSEF on June 25, 2012, 12:55:22 AM
how do I pay them?
Prepay? by month like my electric bill?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 25, 2012, 01:10:08 AM
how do I pay them?
Prepay? by month like my electric bill?

c/c monthly statement
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on June 26, 2012, 02:14:17 AM

once you get it you can get for 195 from cellcom , unlimited BB service , net , voice world wide , and text in isreal
I thought it was 135
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on June 26, 2012, 04:03:58 AM
I thought it was 135
what made you think?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 26, 2012, 08:56:21 AM
My folks in Israel got their Golan Telecom Sim today.I set it all up in just two minutes. Setting up the internet took another 5 minutes on my phone. Everything seems to be working great! Texts, calls to America, etc...

         Is there a phone number I can reach them at? I only saw an address and email on their site.

 I had a few questions..
Maybe someone here knows..
How much does texting to America cost?
Are MMS messages included free?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 26, 2012, 05:13:35 PM
My folks in Israel got their Golan Telecom Sim today.I set it all up in just two minutes. Setting up the internet took another 5 minutes on my phone. Everything seems to be working great! Texts, calls to America, etc...

         Is there a phone number I can reach them at? I only saw an address and email on their site.

 I had a few questions..
Maybe someone here knows..
How much does texting to America cost?
Are MMS messages included free?

sms to the state 0.39
MMS in israel free

if you still  planning of calling them *0058 get a 300 page book , i assume you will be finish the book way before you will get an hold of them
try posting on their FB page , sometimes you can get an answer if a few min.
https://www.facebook.com/GolanTelecom

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 26, 2012, 05:56:01 PM
sms to the state 0.39
MMS in israel free

if you still  planning of calling them *0058 get a 300 page book , i assume you will be finish the book way before you will get an hold of them
try posting on their FB page , sometimes you can get an answer if a few min.
https://www.facebook.com/GolanTelecom

 I tried emailing. I guess I'll see what happens. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 26, 2012, 05:59:05 PM
i cant belive this what should i do, my golan has no american calling!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 26, 2012, 06:27:19 PM
i cant belive this what should i do, my golan has no american calling!


Try the Facebook
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 26, 2012, 06:28:44 PM
I tried emailing. I guess I'll see what happens. Thanks for the info!

from my experience , thy never respond emails .
try the FB / twitter
if you us american c/c try to cancel the charge , i assume thy will call you asap
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on June 26, 2012, 06:29:38 PM
from my experience , thy never respond emails .
try the FB / twitter
if you us american c/c try to cancel the charge , i assume thy will call you asap

Lol- thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 27, 2012, 07:12:52 AM
thanks! i will try to cancel and resign up then

is this  Apple MC136LL/A iPhone 3GS 16GB ATT Smartphone  able to work here in israel? do i need it to get unlocked?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 28, 2012, 12:26:59 AM
thanks! i will try to cancel and resign up then

is this  Apple MC136LL/A iPhone 3GS 16GB ATT Smartphone  able to work here in israel? do i need it to get unlocked?

Any iPhone unlocked will work in israel.
to find out if you iPhone is unlocked just insert a sim from a different carrier if you get reception , meaning your iPhone is unlocked
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on June 28, 2012, 01:46:25 AM
theres a youtube clip which teaches you how to unlock and jailbreak an iphone....i just didnt know if these are able to thanks so much!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on June 28, 2012, 02:23:17 PM
I unlocked my BB so the phone works in Israel, but it is on an Enterprise system so my private email isn't going through. I have wiped and restored several times with no help. What can I try next?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on June 28, 2012, 05:05:35 PM
I unlocked my BB so the phone works in Israel, but it is on an Enterprise system so my private email isn't going through. I have wiped and restored several times with no help. What can I try next?

PM me
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mordy44 on July 03, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
I know it's probably been discussed....

I have an IPhone 4 - Verizon. I'm heading to Israel next week for 3 weeks. Anyone know the cheapest phone plan? can I get service on my Iphone for a decent rate? or should I get Talk"n"Save etc

I am aware of Apps that allow international texting when there is Wi-Fi, are there apps for calls too?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 03, 2012, 05:57:24 PM
I know it's probably been discussed....

I have an IPhone 4 - Verizon. I'm heading to Israel next week for 3 weeks. Anyone know the cheapest phone plan? can I get service on my Iphone for a decent rate? or should I get Talk"n"Save etc

I am aware of Apps that allow international texting when there is Wi-Fi, are there apps for calls too?

Get golan for 99 shekel for the month for unlimited everything
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mordy44 on July 03, 2012, 06:05:30 PM
Quote
Get golan for 99 shekel for the month for unlimited everything

Sounds like a bargain.

Is it a separate phone? How does it work?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 03, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
Sounds like a bargain.

Is it a separate phone? How does it work?

U need a teudat zehut number and order the sim to an address in Israel. Check out their site. Its all in English. And u can use ur unlocked iphone but im not sure if they sell micro sins yet. You cab cut it to fit though. I'd ask around the forums if anyone has done it with golan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on July 03, 2012, 06:13:35 PM
Only the iphone 4s has a sim. The 4 doesn't unless its att
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 03, 2012, 06:18:13 PM
Only the iphone 4s has a sim. The 4 doesn't unless its att

You're right.  I didn't realize he wrote 4 and not 4s. Thanks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mordy44 on July 03, 2012, 06:19:05 PM
So.... Golan won't help?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on July 03, 2012, 06:24:23 PM
If you don't have the 4s nothing will work for u besides wifi or roaming w verizon
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mordy44 on July 03, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
Which apps are good for calls with wifi?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on July 03, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
I think vonage has a nice app. I don't really mess with the apps for calling
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mordy44 on July 03, 2012, 06:56:53 PM
Quote
I don't really mess with the apps for calling

Why not? So what do you do?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on July 03, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
Why not? So what do you do?
i am not in israel :)
i just use the service without any apps
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on July 03, 2012, 10:45:41 PM
MAgicjack App works well with wifi. So does Obi app.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 04, 2012, 02:10:42 AM
obi has an app? i have an iphone is it there too
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on July 04, 2012, 03:35:57 AM
Talkatone uses google talk/voice works very well on wifi
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 04, 2012, 08:37:34 AM
Talkatone uses google talk/voice works very well on wifi

does this work on an iphone?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on July 04, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
does this work on an iphone?
Yup!! IPhone app

GrooveIP is the android equivlant
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yossi4k on July 04, 2012, 09:55:00 AM
Yup!! IPhone app

GrooveIP is the android equivlant
Android has both, GrooveIP and Talkatone. I find GrooveIP to be louder and clearer but with intermittent static
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 04, 2012, 03:38:32 PM
what is it called under in the apple app store
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on July 04, 2012, 03:51:52 PM
what is it called under in the apple app store
Talkatone   http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/talkatone-free-google-voice/id397648381?mt=8  (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/talkatone-free-google-voice/id397648381?mt=8)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 04, 2012, 04:05:27 PM
thnaks sorry, i was looking in installous (jailbroken applications) by mistake found it thanks so much
Title: golan vs anyone else
Post by: rots5 on July 10, 2012, 08:08:34 AM
i have cell com now and i decided today to switch to golan as i ported my number and even put my cc info in and pressed paid - the site froze while redirecting me, cellcom called my wifes number a few seconds later offering me for 99 shekels for unlimited phone, sms, internet and 200 min to usa .... i asked this guys name and he sounded shady with the whole thing but whats the worst that can happen i guess :-)
Title: Re: golan vs anyone else
Post by: MnM1130 on July 10, 2012, 08:45:24 AM
i have cell com now and i decided today to switch to golan as i ported my number and even put my cc info in and pressed paid - the site froze while redirecting me, cellcom called my wifes number a few seconds later offering me for 99 shekels for unlimited phone, sms, internet and 200 min to usa .... i asked this guys name and he sounded shady with the whole thing but whats the worst that can happen i guess :-)
i think their tryin everythin they can to keep their customers... although why wud u stay for 200 min to usa- isnt golan free unlimited?
Title: Re: golan vs anyone else
Post by: L'Chaim on July 10, 2012, 09:49:55 AM
I remember someone mentioning that Golan had problems with international calls
Title: Re: Re: golan vs anyone else
Post by: sky121 on July 10, 2012, 10:14:39 AM
I remember someone mentioning that Golan had problems with international calls

I heard that too buy my parents are in their third week using it and have had no problems BH. Though if the OP doesn't need 200 minutes it might be easier to stick with cellcom.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 12, 2012, 05:54:13 PM
I have some old phones    
Samsung Gravity 2, T469
and a Palm Centro, assuming they are unlocked will the talk/data work with Golan or HOT? I've used the Centro with Orange big talk.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on July 12, 2012, 06:10:53 PM
I have some old phones    
Samsung Gravity 2, T469
and a Palm Centro, assuming they are unlocked will the talk/data work with Golan or HOT? I've used the Centro with Orange big talk.

Hot works on 3g ONLY
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 12, 2012, 06:24:19 PM
Hot works on 3g ONLY

And Golan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 12, 2012, 06:40:21 PM
works with 4g if im not mistaken
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 12, 2012, 07:04:34 PM
And Golan?

3G and 2G as of now , later thy will have only 3G
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on July 12, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
So if I have an American 4S iPhone that ATT unlocks for me, what is the best pay as you go plan in Israel that will give me Israeli phone and data for the 3-4 trips that I travel there?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 12, 2012, 08:03:38 PM
So if I have an American 4S iPhone that ATT unlocks for me, what is the best pay as you go plan in Israel that will give me Israeli phone and data for the 3-4 trips that I travel there?

i would recommend you to us Golan for unlimited everything.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 12, 2012, 08:34:22 PM
i would recommend you to us Golan for unlimited everything.

+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on July 13, 2012, 12:28:34 AM
They have a pay as you go plan like HOT?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 13, 2012, 01:44:22 AM
They have a pay as you go plan like HOT?

yes . for 9.99
check out
golantelecom.co.il
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 13, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
Thanks for your help guys

Does this plan make sense?
Going for  trip soon, will get an unlocked 3g phone(any , order a Golan unlimited card using a friends TZ #, expect it to take about two weeks delivery to his house, will activate when I get there and will pay 99nis from the time it is activated, then will cancel when I leave.

I went through the signup process but didnt order, it gives a few choices of intl carrier to choose(their carrier, 012,013 etc) which one to pick?, although I know it may not work at all.

btw, found this  site  that compares the plans
http://nofryers.com/calculate-savings-with-golan-telecom-hot-mobile-rami-levy-home-cellular-in-israel/
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 13, 2012, 10:31:50 AM
i also signed up this week and i stuck with their golan calling for international.
also the canceling process in a bit annoying, i just did that too, u have to fill out a form and send it registered mail, but that means going to the post office and here, thats just as bad as driving behind a slow driver in the left lane!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on July 13, 2012, 10:34:58 AM
i also signed up this week and i stuck with their golan calling for international.
also the canceling process in a bit annoying, i just did that too, u have to fill out a form and send it registered mail, but that means going to the post office and here, thats just as bad as driving behind a slow driver in the left lane!
signed up and cancelled already in one week?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 13, 2012, 10:49:38 AM
no, sorry bit unclear  signed myself up and had to cancel my brother in law, guess he thought it would just stop charging his cc.....lol
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 13, 2012, 11:15:31 AM
Post office to cancel, registered mail, their not making it easy...
any of the others easier to cancel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 13, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
its not hard but its just a pain, u can just give someone 15 shek and write out everything go to the PO and ask someone to send it out, its just annoying, everyone is talking about how great golan is and what not, and how u can cancel but no one actually said they canceled lol
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 13, 2012, 02:01:00 PM
With Golan Telecom, you are free from any commitment and you can freely terminate your subscription at any time. Unlike other operators, termination does not require you to wait for hours to reach a customer service agent, and to convince him about your decision . You can simply do it from your subscriber account ("My Account") on our website www.golantelecom.co.il, by printing the termination form located there, printing it and signing it. Termination will be effective at the end of the month following the reception of the form.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on July 22, 2012, 08:01:08 AM
sorry if this is the wrong thread....can someone recommend a phone (2 needed) $125 or less (android) that would work in Israel with one of these new plans...

main function would be sms and email... doesn't need to be fanciest phone..just one w/ a keyboard, simple but efficient and user friendly...

TIA
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: elisam98 on July 22, 2012, 06:27:50 PM
First Timer here...Thank you all for all the info regarding different plans.
Before I press the "buy" button, I would like to check on some things:
Thanks for all the help!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 23, 2012, 01:03:15 AM
so i have a 3g iphone and it workes as long as it has data capabilities i think ur fine )of course it has to be unlocked in order for it to work too)

how long u here for?

if u have muechdet u that is ur "t.z" while ur here its ur passport number but shiortened, thats how i signed up with golan, alsoi ordered golan on sunday and had it by thurs, and they have ppl to speak to when u call *058 (or wtvr u dial)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on July 23, 2012, 01:18:17 AM
Golan works for voice even not 3g, unlike Hot. IME it took 3 days untill I got the sim, but was told it usually takes up to 7.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 23, 2012, 09:05:21 AM
Is Golan going to be offering Cellphones?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 23, 2012, 10:06:45 AM
Thanks for your help guys

Does this plan make sense?
Going for  trip soon, will get an unlocked 3g phone(any , order a Golan unlimited card using a friends TZ #, expect it to take about two weeks delivery to his house, will activate when I get there and will pay 99nis from the time it is activated, then will cancel when I leave.

I went through the signup process but didnt order, it gives a few choices of intl carrier to choose(their carrier, 012,013 etc) which one to pick?, although I know it may not work at all.

btw, found this  site  that compares the plans
http://nofryers.com/calculate-savings-with-golan-telecom-hot-mobile-rami-levy-home-cellular-in-israel/




Get Golan

that what i do all the time for my friends traveling to Israel
never was more then a week to receive it.

if you go for the 99NIS plan so calling true Golan to the state is free
if you call +1-718-888-8888 or 001718-888-8888

this is the best sim i know and with the best service since you can cancel the sim online , their service became better aprox. 3 min waiting on the line for service .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 23, 2012, 10:07:03 AM
Is Golan going to be offering Cellphones?


Later the year
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 23, 2012, 10:08:30 AM
so i have a 3g iphone and it workes as long as it has data capabilities i think ur fine )of course it has to be unlocked in order for it to work too)

how long u here for?

if u have muechdet u that is ur "t.z" while ur here its ur passport number but shiortened, thats how i signed up with golan, alsoi ordered golan on sunday and had it by thurs, and they have ppl to speak to when u call *058 (or wtvr u dial)

you mean
*0058



Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 23, 2012, 10:09:35 AM
First Timer here...Thank you all for all the info regarding different plans.
Before I press the "buy" button, I would like to check on some things:
  • I have basically settled on either getting a Golan or HOT SIM card - I have 3 unlocked GSM phones (only one 3g), however Golan told me that I MUST have a 3g phone. Does anyone know if thats just a requirement for data, or even if i just used it for voice? (I see this was discussed previously on this tread, but I really only need the voice minutes and I never heard of a 3G SIM card.)
  • I don't have a T.Z. or Israeli CC, but I did get a friend to provide his number/address - will I have problems picking up the phone at HOT (they told me I need an ID)? Should I just get Golan and have it shipped(= no ID check)?
  • Also, does anyone have any idea how long it will take me to receive a Golan SIM by mail? (I'm leaving to Israel in a week and would like it there waiting when I arrive)
Thanks for all the help!



Get Golan with your friends t.s. address and cc should work perfect
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: elisam98 on July 23, 2012, 10:34:02 AM
Thank for the info. I guess Golan is my best option right now.
It seems that its hard to cancel Golan service and I guess I can't downgrade it like HOT to a no monthly fee plan.
Would it be impossible to cancel Golan once I get back to the States?
Also, it seems from the Facebook page that people were having problems with Golan (though my hebrew isn't perfect) - does anyone know if thats been resolved?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: elisam98 on July 23, 2012, 10:37:57 AM
so i have a 3g iphone and it workes as long as it has data capabilities i think ur fine )of course it has to be unlocked in order for it to work too)

how long u here for?
I'll be in Israel for just 2 weeks, but I would like a SIM for all the times I come back.

if u have muechdet u that is ur "t.z" while ur here its ur passport number but shiortened, thats how i signed up with golan, alsoi ordered golan on sunday and had it by thurs, and they have ppl to speak to when u call *058 (or wtvr u dial)
Strangely enough, when I entered my US passport #, it worked - but when I put put in a friend's it was invalid. Just a fluke?  :o
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 23, 2012, 11:22:32 AM
i ordered golan, my passport #would not work so used a friends tz, pre-paid card would not go through so used amex plat. 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 23, 2012, 01:41:36 PM
Thank for the info. I guess Golan is my best option right now.
It seems that its hard to cancel Golan service and I guess I can't downgrade it like HOT to a no monthly fee plan.
Would it be impossible to cancel Golan once I get back to the States?
Also, it seems from the Facebook page that people were having problems with Golan (though my hebrew isn't perfect) - does anyone know if thats been resolved?

thy coming better and better from time to time.
still can't get text from out side of the country


to cancel all you need to do is to go Online and cancel it .


I'll be in Israel for just 2 weeks, but I would like a SIM for all the times I come back.
Strangely enough, when I entered my US passport #, it worked - but when I put put in a friend's it was invalid. Just a fluke?  :o


the Israeli T.Z. is a generic number so your passport can works sometimes like anyother random number
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on July 23, 2012, 03:45:52 PM
sorry if this is the wrong thread....can someone recommend a phone (2 needed) $125 or less (android) that would work in Israel with one of these new plans...

main function would be sms and email... doesn't need to be fanciest phone..just one w/ a keyboard, simple but efficient and user friendly...

TIA

bump
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mechayamom on July 23, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
I too am looking for a recommendation on what type of unlocked GSM I can pick up that will do basic calling in Israel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 23, 2012, 05:14:55 PM
http://www.cowboom.com/Mobile-Cellular/Cell-Phones-Smartphones

here u can find a used auction iphone (i did for 110) there perfect here with golan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 23, 2012, 05:56:48 PM
http://www.cowboom.com/Mobile-Cellular/Cell-Phones-Smartphones

here u can find a used auction iphone (i did for 110) there perfect here with golan
I looked on amazon and ebay and I noticed a nice choice of BB phones for under $75.00. They look like they would work great with Golan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 23, 2012, 06:05:30 PM
ya if they actually DID work with golan......


bb DONT WORK WITH GOLAN!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: plainbachur on July 23, 2012, 06:55:26 PM
anybody ever tried golan in the north like tzefas? Good service?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 23, 2012, 07:59:22 PM
ya if they actually DID work with golan......


bb DONT WORK WITH GOLAN!
Please advise were you got this information. Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on July 23, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
How about HOT? Any experience out the yet with it?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 24, 2012, 07:16:54 AM
Please advise were you got this information. Thanks

call golan!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 07:25:15 AM
I sent a email
Anyone have knowledge with which unlocked GSM phone works with Golan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 24, 2012, 07:26:33 AM
put in the sim and it should work.... and do u mean golan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 07:31:45 AM
put in the sim and it should work.... and do u mean golan?
Yes. You mentioned BB (blacberry) does not work
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mechayamom on July 24, 2012, 09:15:33 AM
Which phone works with Golan?  If an Iphone does it have to be Sprint or AT&T?
Does anybody have a preferred phone that will work with them?
Also interested in coverage up North.

Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 24, 2012, 09:24:02 AM
Which phone works with Golan?  If an Iphone does it have to be Sprint or AT&T?
Does anybody have a preferred phone that will work with them?
Also interested in coverage up North.

Thanks

Any unlocked iphone. Sprint,  att, Verizon...


What do you mean preferred?
I use my Sprint Motorola Photon.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 09:55:35 AM
Any unlocked iphone. Sprint,  att, Verizon...


What do you mean preferred?
I use my Sprint Motorola Photon.

Someone mentioned BB does not work. I was thinking of purchasing one. Would you have any knowledge.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 24, 2012, 10:04:36 AM
Someone mentioned BB does not work. I was thinking of purchasing one. Would you have any knowledge.


https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/general_information.php#handsets

According to their site that is correct. Blackberrys wont work.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 12:03:00 PM

https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/general_information.php#handsets

According to their site that is correct. Blackberrys wont work.
Thanks. I was looking for that info. I contacted them via email. Would you know which smart phone would work.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 24, 2012, 12:03:54 PM
Thanks. I was looking for that info. I contacted them via email. Would you know which smart phone would work.

I would assume most Samsungs, Motorola, Iphones etc.

Do you have one you want to use?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 12:06:43 PM
I would assume most Samsungs, Motorola, Iphones etc.

Do you have one you want to use?
I am looking to buy a used or refurb that will work in Eretz Yisroel with the Golan 99.00 plan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 24, 2012, 12:37:55 PM
cowboom.com very good deals on iphone 3gs
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 12:42:02 PM
cowboom.com very good deals on iphone 3gs
No good deal under $100.00
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 24, 2012, 01:17:05 PM
ahh u want under 100 

ebay then or swappa.com
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
ahh u want under 100 

ebay then or swappa.com
Thanks for The "swappa.com" They do have what I am looking for.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 24, 2012, 04:15:28 PM
great!

its a great website!    also if you need any unlocking google it! its litt all there, or you can find it on ebay pay someone a few bucks and they do it too
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 24, 2012, 04:26:51 PM
That is not my issue. I want to get an inexpensive phone for E.Y. that works with a sim card.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 24, 2012, 04:35:14 PM
That is not my issue. I want to get an inexpensive phone for E.Y. that works with a sim card.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AT-T-Fusion-U8652-Blue-AT-T-GSM-GPS-Smartphone-WORLD-PHONE-QUAD-BAND-/200795789844?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2ec05c9a14
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: elisam98 on July 25, 2012, 09:26:13 AM
I am looking to buy a used or refurb that will work in Eretz Yisroel with the Golan 99.00 plan
That is not my issue. I want to get an inexpensive phone for E.Y. that works with a sim card.

I did some research on this, and I'm pretty sure you can use any phone that is quad-band GSM (850, 900, 1800 and 1900 MHz) and that supports UMTS (most importantly 2100 MHz, but also 1900MHz and possibly 850). For Golan, all you should need is the GSM requirement; for HOT you must get UMTS too.

To check a particular phone, you can:

For example:
(http://i.imgur.com/RhPxd.png)

Disclaimer: This is solely based on my research. I am not located in Israel (yet) and have not tested this out. Good luck!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: elisam98 on July 25, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
I found a lot of helpful info @ http://wiki.apnchanger.org/Israel (http://wiki.apnchanger.org/Israel)  :)
Also, does anyone know if we have to change the APN info manually to get data access, or are the settings stored on the SIM?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on July 25, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
IME you usually have to do it yourself, although sometimes it comes pre-installed.
Otherwise they can send it to you or find it online and set it yourself.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 25, 2012, 11:40:29 AM
I found a lot of helpful info @ http://wiki.apnchanger.org/Israel (http://wiki.apnchanger.org/Israel)  :)
Also, does anyone know if we have to change the APN info manually to get data access, or are the settings stored on the SIM?

I had to change mine. I was using a motorola photon and used the instructions for a different Motorola posted on golans website.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 25, 2012, 12:07:35 PM
I did some research on this, and I'm pretty sure you can use any phone that is quad-band GSM (850, 900, 1800 and 1900 MHz) and that supports UMTS (most importantly 2100 MHz, but also 1900MHz and possibly 850). For Golan, all you should need is the GSM requirement; for HOT you must get UMTS too.

To check a particular phone, you can:
  • Go to http://www.phonearena.com/ and type in the name/model number of the phone in the search bar.
  • Select the phone and you will be on the "Specs" page.
  • Scroll down to the "Technology" section.
  • The supported technologies and bands/frequencies of the selected phone will be listed.

For example:
(http://i.imgur.com/RhPxd.png)

Disclaimer: This is solely based on my research. I am not located in Israel (yet) and have not tested this out. Good luck!
Any reeason why Black berry does not work for Golan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 25, 2012, 01:13:48 PM
Any reeason why Black berry does not work for Golan

will work
no BB service.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 25, 2012, 02:15:40 PM
will work
no BB service.
Please explain
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on July 25, 2012, 03:37:35 PM
Please explain

The handset will work for calls/txt, but no BlackBerry service (bbm/email).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 26, 2012, 12:51:14 PM
Anyone know for sure if golan has US calls, theres conflicting info on the forum here. Some do some don't?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on July 26, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
Anyone know for sure if golan has US calls, theres conflicting info on the forum here. Some do some don't?

My folks call me everyday from there Golan sims. No issue.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 26, 2012, 03:59:48 PM
no issues on my end either, i call my parents all the time walking to and from yesh
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on July 26, 2012, 05:06:19 PM
OK thanks, and what kind of phone do i need to be able to tether with  golan. Want to avoid having to rent a usb stick. I dont have a smartphone in US so I'm really a beginner, tech savvy when i need to though. Any unlocked android would do?
TIA
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 26, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
unlocked roid is gr8 though try to get jailbroken, bec then u can download tethering programs or wifi programs,
i.e. sometimes a can turn on wifi thru my 3g so inorder that someone else can use internet
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on July 26, 2012, 05:58:33 PM
Any reeason why Black berry does not work for Golan
pelephone has now the same price as golan 99 nis everything unlimeted includind Blackberry Internet Service (BIS)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on July 26, 2012, 06:06:32 PM
Anyone know for sure if golan has US calls, theres conflicting info on the forum here. Some do some don't?
I had posted earlier that there were issues, but can now update, works like a charm.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 26, 2012, 08:06:36 PM
pelephone has now the same price as golan 99 nis everything unlimeted includind Blackberry Internet Service (BIS)

Thanks for the tip. Any idea were you could pick up the sim card and is it a good service in Israel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 27, 2012, 02:20:04 AM
pelephone has now the same price as golan 99 nis everything unlimeted includind Blackberry Internet Service (BIS)

really? with itl calling?

wow , never heard of this, can you pls get me a number i have a friend who is coming in here his wife needs a bb and he was told go with oorange foe 150
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on July 27, 2012, 03:37:13 AM
really? with itl calling?

wow , never heard of this, can you pls get me a number i have a friend who is coming in here his wife needs a bb and he was told go with oorange foe 150

Here's the link  https://digital.pelephone.co.il/SelfCare/PeleStoreProgs.do (https://digital.pelephone.co.il/SelfCare/PeleStoreProgs.do)
Its 99 +1 sheq a day =130 for unlimited + world wide calling and  3gig data vs. 99 unlimited in israel and 1gig data
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on July 27, 2012, 04:58:12 AM
Here's the link  https://digital.pelephone.co.il/SelfCare/PeleStoreProgs.do (https://digital.pelephone.co.il/SelfCare/PeleStoreProgs.do)
Its 99 +1 sheq a day =130 for unlimited + world wide calling and  3gig data vs. 99 unlimited in israel and 1gig data

Cool thanks for the tip :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 27, 2012, 07:34:43 AM
Here's the link  https://digital.pelephone.co.il/SelfCare/PeleStoreProgs.do (https://digital.pelephone.co.il/SelfCare/PeleStoreProgs.do)
Its 99 +1 sheq a day =130 for unlimited + world wide calling and  3gig data vs. 99 unlimited in israel and 1gig data
Thanks. From what you wrote it seem a little higher then Golan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on July 27, 2012, 07:36:40 AM
well, its higher if u take the intl plan too then ite 130 a month but without it its only 99 shekel and it hass BBM
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on July 27, 2012, 08:15:03 AM
Thanks. From what you wrote it seem a little higher then Golan.
Golan dont have the BlackBerry option, and 31 shekel is cheap for that
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 27, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
Golan dont have the BlackBerry option, and 31 shekel is cheap for that
If I buy a BB in the states do I have to change anything on the phone to get it to work in Eretz Yisroel.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on July 27, 2012, 08:39:24 AM
nope it should be GSM and unlocked and ready to go
i have here the tour 9630 that no company here has it and it works
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on July 27, 2012, 08:44:43 AM
nope it should be GSM and unlocked and ready to go
i have here the tour 9630 that no company here has it and it works
If someone brings me a sim card to the states. That means when I get out of the plane in Ben Gurion it is working.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on July 27, 2012, 09:38:08 AM
If someone brings me a sim card to the states. That means when I get out of the plane in Ben Gurion it is working.
Yep. You got it
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on July 27, 2012, 05:55:22 PM
Still looking for anyone using HOT for 89 shekels monthly. Any good?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 28, 2012, 03:51:38 PM
anyone with golan know the setting information with the internet on an iphone?

when i first signed up my internet wasnt working and they told me what to typoe in, but now there closed and my settings got reset,
 
its in settings>general>network>cellular data network> APN, Username and password is what i need
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on July 28, 2012, 06:08:45 PM
Apn: internet.golantelecom.net.il

I dont think you need username and password, if yes try 'golan' for both
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 28, 2012, 06:15:41 PM
Apn: internet.golantelecom.net.il

I dont think you need username and password, if yes try 'golan' for both


no need user name or password


Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on July 29, 2012, 01:13:33 AM
Apn: internet.golantelecom.net.il

I dont think you need username and password, if yes try 'golan' for both

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! IT WORKED!!!
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on July 29, 2012, 03:08:12 AM
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! IT WORKED!!!
Pleasure anytime.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mechayamom on July 31, 2012, 02:03:27 PM
Question,
Obviously, when you read below, you will realize, I am not very technical.

I want to use a simple phone..only going to use it for talking in Israel and US for short term (2 weeks).

Do I need a QUAD band GSM Unlocked phone to be able to use a Rami Levy SIM card and then their prepaid plan? Or will Dual band 900/1800 work?
Just want to be able to plug in a SIM card and get a prepaid plan to buy cheap minutes.

Rami Levy runs on 3G but will it support these older phones?
Does the SAMSUNG E1080T have a place to put a SIM Card?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on July 31, 2012, 02:46:31 PM
Quote
Does the SAMSUNG E1080T have a place to put a SIM Card?
yes and its 900/1800 for israle and europe only

Quote
Or will Dual band 900/1800 work
this will only work in israel not in the usa

Quote
Rami Levy runs on 3G but will it support these older phones?
sorry dont know. if they use only 3g then you are out of luck with the e1080.
the zte f160 unlocked has 3g2100 for israel and quad band gsm...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mechayamom on July 31, 2012, 04:49:48 PM
Looking for no frills really cheap just talking phone.  The ZTE was $199 at amazon.  I saw some on Ebay but there's no time for that now.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on July 31, 2012, 04:53:57 PM
Looking for no frills really cheap just talking phone.  The ZTE was $199 at amazon.  I saw some on Ebay but there's no time for that now.
zte can be bought for around 50 elsewhere but how much time do you have?
nokia c2-01 on amazon?
or just find out if u really need the 3g bands..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on July 31, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
Anyone know the fee on pelephone for extra data?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on July 31, 2012, 06:24:10 PM
Depending on which plan you are
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 01, 2012, 02:55:24 PM
Anyone know the fee on pelephone for extra data?
update: spoke to pelephone, on the 99 unlimited talk, text, web, bb, (no international calling)  after 1 gig of data they throttle
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on August 01, 2012, 05:33:39 PM
update: spoke to pelephone, on the 99 unlimited talk, text, web, bb, (no international calling)  after 1 gig of data they throttle
well for BB 1GB is over enough
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 02, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
well for BB 1GB is over enough
+1
I use my bb browser plenty never when over 600mb

Yet if you plan on using it for android/iPhone as your main internet access it might be a pain being throttled
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YOSEF on August 02, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
After reading through the thread, I'm still a bit confused as to my different options.

-So I have two phones, a BB tour, and a palm treo 750. (Both are unlocked, GSM quad band phones from my research.)

-I'm going to be in Israel for about 10 days with my wife. 

-We'd like to get one main cell phone and one as a phone just to get a hold of the other/minimal usage.

-We'd like to pick up the SIMs in Israel.

-The main line should have BB service, maybe calling to America, depending on price.

What are my best options?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 02, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
After reading through the thread, I'm still a bit confused as to my different options.

-So I have two phones, a BB tour, and a palm treo 750. (Both are unlocked, GSM quad band phones from my research.)

-I'm going to be in Israel for about 10 days with my wife. 

-We'd like to get one main cell phone and one as a phone just to get a hold of the other/minimal usage.

-We'd like to pick up the SIMs in Israel.
O
-The main line should have BB service, maybe calling to America, depending on price.

What are my best options?

Thanks!

Non of the new cheap company's have bb service so the cheapest would be Pelephone 99 shekel for unlimited everything or 130 shekel for unlimited everything including international calling *there is a 1 time 39skl charge for sim card

For your second line if the phone is 3g then ur best bet is Hot mobile 10 agarot plan, 10ag for talk,txt,MB data no monthly fee just the 1 time 39 skl for sim card
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 02, 2012, 03:47:42 PM
Non of the new cheap company's have bb service so the cheapest would be Pelephone 99 shekel for unlimited everything or 130 shekel for unlimited everything including international calling *there is a 1 time 39skl charge for sim card

For your second line if the phone is 3g then ur best bet is Hot mobile 10 agarot plan, 10ag for talk,txt,MB data no monthly fee just the 1 time 39 skl for sim card

Nice clear info.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YOSEF on August 02, 2012, 04:25:37 PM
Non of the new cheap company's have bb service so the cheapest would be Pelephone 99 shekel for unlimited everything or 130 shekel for unlimited everything including international calling *there is a 1 time 39skl charge for sim card

For your second line if the phone is 3g then ur best bet is Hot mobile 10 agarot plan, 10ag for talk,txt,MB data no monthly fee just the 1 time 39 skl for sim card

Thanks!!

So I think the small line is taken care of....I went with Golan's 9.99 plan, as the texts are only 1 agurot over the 60, and I'm pretty sure that more than 100 texts will be sent.  In addition, I'm not positive that phone is 3G.

You mentioned that pelephone is 130 shekel (for BB service and free US calls) plus a 39 shekel charge for the sim. Is cellcom the same? (A friend can get me the cellcom sim and delivered).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 02, 2012, 04:34:30 PM
Whats cool about the golan 9 shekel plan is also that calls to US are 8 agurot a minute!  Doubt same is with hot!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 02, 2012, 05:52:31 PM
Whats cool about the golan 9 shekel plan is also that calls to US are 8 agurot a minute!  Doubt same is with hot!
I use local phone for .005 per minute
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 02, 2012, 06:09:34 PM
I use local phone for .005 per minute
why is it worth it on the 9 shekel golan plan?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 02, 2012, 06:28:33 PM
Whats cool about the golan 9 shekel plan is also that calls to US are 8 agurot a minute!  Doubt same is with hot!

8 agurot over the 60 minutes? Or are those 60 minutes local only?

How much are extra minutes in general?
How much are texts? And texts to America? Anyone know all these prices?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 03, 2012, 03:46:48 AM
why is it worth it on the 9 shekel golan plan?
Its 1/5 of a penny extra to the USA
wasn't sure if u meant 8agurat extra or total per min.

P.s. I'm still with cellcom  chayal plan paying way more
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 03, 2012, 04:22:41 AM
60 minutes is for israel. Afterwards is 18ag a min. 1ag a text. USA is 8ag a minute (more than half price less...!) texts to USA is 39ag.
https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/legal_tariffs.php
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 03, 2012, 10:19:04 AM
I am still looking for info/experience with HOT's new plan, I am looking at the 10 Agurot plan instead of the Talkman plan of Orange which currently costs me 1 shekel per minute.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 03, 2012, 11:25:32 AM
I am still looking for info/experience with HOT's new plan, I am looking at the 10 Agurot plan instead of the Talkman plan of Orange which currently costs me 1 shekel per minute.

looks like nobody has any experience with them, why dont you just get it, what can happen? - its better than paying 1 shekel a minute.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 03, 2012, 11:26:26 AM
I won't be there until September to try it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on August 07, 2012, 07:02:53 PM
using golan sims and are working well, not clear to me though if there is unlimited sms to US or only unlimited calls?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 07, 2012, 08:01:28 PM
using golan sims and are working well, not clear to me though if there is unlimited sms to US or only unlimited calls?
What kind of a phone are you using
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 08, 2012, 02:32:25 AM
using golan sims and are working well, not clear to me though if there is unlimited sms to US or only unlimited calls?
only unlimited calls. SMS are charged at 39ag.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 08, 2012, 02:50:58 AM
using golan sims and are working well, not clear to me though if there is unlimited sms to US or only unlimited calls?
I have two friends currently using Golan telecom, and both are quite happy with their service and have no complaints.
One of them called me from Israel direct -no codes (IIRC) or whatever, and sounded totally fine.
Its Unlimited calls to USA and 30 Countries!  SMS to the USA cost 0.39 agurot. See here (https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/general_information.php#calls_from_israel_abroad).

This is amazing, way cheaper than any plan you can get in the USA!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 08, 2012, 03:06:37 AM
They are really great, I use them too. They were ranked with the shortest hold waiting time to speak to them which is true, problem is just reps are still extremely clueless. I had a serious screwup with them but finally found a supervisor who said she will help. 
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 08, 2012, 06:04:04 AM
They are really great, I use them too. They were ranked with the shortest hold waiting time to speak to them which is true, problem is just reps are still extremely clueless. I had a serious screwup with them but finally found a supervisor who said she will help.

Honestly its new and the reps are still learning. Personally I'm willing to take that annoyance in light of the pretty good service at a great price.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: broketeacher on August 08, 2012, 01:00:17 PM
I'm trying to order a Golan plan for while I'm in Israel - the form isn't allowing me to fill out my address (I've tried in two diff browsers) - and they're asking me for my "ID Number" - I don't know what they want for that.  Anyone dealt with this before?
Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on August 08, 2012, 01:02:04 PM
That's your teudat zehut number.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: broketeacher on August 08, 2012, 01:08:36 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 08, 2012, 01:35:37 PM
But what do you put in if you don't have an Israeli TD?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 08, 2012, 01:35:53 PM
I mean teudat Zehut?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 08, 2012, 05:52:15 PM
i have golan and recently i have been having issues, for starters most of my phone calls dont ring they just get picked up, no ringing on my part, second - quiet often its happening that my calls to usa dont go thru

my wifes first cousin who is here in IL now, told me today that he is paying 5$ a day with orange for unlimited everyting (hes on vaca)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on August 08, 2012, 06:42:33 PM
What kind of a phone are you using

motorola defy, hotspot works great too.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 08, 2012, 10:21:37 PM
motorola defy, hotspot works great too.
Did you buy this new.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: satturn on August 08, 2012, 11:10:58 PM
I mean teudat Zehut?
your passport number or license number should work also.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on August 09, 2012, 04:21:31 AM
your passport number or license number should work also.
Did it work for you? If not, on what basis are you saying that?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 09, 2012, 08:05:02 AM
i have golan and recently i have been having issues, for starters most of my phone calls dont ring they just get picked up, no ringing on my part, second - quiet often its happening that my calls to usa dont go thru

my wifes first cousin who is here in IL now, told me today that he is paying 5$ a day with orange for unlimited everyting (hes on vaca)


That's $50 more a month. I've been using Golan and loving it.  The customer service could be a bit more knowledgeable but the price is just right! :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: broketeacher on August 09, 2012, 09:02:29 AM
your passport number or license number should work also.

i just entered my passport number - didn't work - any other ideas?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: dealer on August 09, 2012, 11:58:35 AM
any have any good ideas for cellphones for the golan plan, can be ordered in the us and brought to israel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 09, 2012, 12:28:57 PM
I would also like the same info
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: plainbachur on August 09, 2012, 01:32:20 PM
Read thru the Thread it was discussed already
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 09, 2012, 08:02:34 PM
Read thru the Thread it was discussed already
I apprfeciate your advice. I would like some actual experience with a phone bought in the USA that would work in Eretz Yisroel. I searched and did not find this info.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2012, 02:18:03 AM
I apprfeciate your advice. I would like some actual experience with a phone bought in the USA that would work in Eretz Yisroel. I searched and did not find this info.

im sorry if this comes out rude, but i think i mightve mentioned quiet a number of times what i do, and i live in israel!

i have an iphone 3g and it was jailbroken and unlocked, and i use golan for 99 shek a month. i signed up with my muchedet number (which is very similar to my passport number) bec when u type in the passprt number it wont work, but ur muchedet number is basically ur TZ here in israel, for anyone who has Betuach leumi (israeli  helth insurance) they recieve a TZ number at some point and this is the same number.
any other questions?



page 25 of this thread
so i have a 3g iphone and it workes as long as it has data capabilities i think ur fine )of course it has to be unlocked in order for it to work too)

how long u here for?

if u have muechdet u that is ur "t.z" while ur here its ur passport number but shiortened, thats how i signed up with golan, alsoi ordered golan on sunday and had it by thurs, and they have ppl to speak to when u call *058 (or wtvr u dial)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 11, 2012, 10:09:10 PM
im sorry if this comes out rude, but i think i mightve mentioned quiet a number of times what i do, and i live in israel!

i have an iphone 3g and it was jailbroken and unlocked, and i use golan for 99 shek a month. i signed up with my muchedet number (which is very similar to my passport number) bec when u type in the passprt number it wont work, but ur muchedet number is basically ur TZ here in israel, for anyone who has Betuach leumi (israeli  helth insurance) they recieve a TZ number at some point and this is the same number.
any other questions?



page 25 of this thread
Thanks
That will not work for me. i was wondering about any other phone that would work
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yfriedman7 on August 12, 2012, 03:39:52 PM
Did it work for you? If not, on what basis are you saying that?

most 9 digit numbers should work
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 12, 2012, 07:32:47 PM
just want to confirm before i buy...that this phone works in israel and i can sign up for pelephone and get BB service.

i dont need the 130 nis plan - i'll go with the 99 nis as jivetel gives me free usa calling from my cell...TIA

http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-BB-9630-Verizon-Unlocked/dp/B005LVN4SI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1344812078&sr=8-4&keywords=9630

will passport number work or should i use muechedet number?
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: statusmiles on August 12, 2012, 11:57:03 PM
You will get a refurbished phone buying on amazon or ebay, just beware.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: elikay on August 12, 2012, 11:59:34 PM
You will get a refurbished phone buying on amazon or ebay, just beware.
+1000,000
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 13, 2012, 12:17:13 AM
a) whats the alternative?

b) will it work in israel with pelephone?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 13, 2012, 02:41:46 AM
why davka pelephone? u need bb?

i was in cellcom and a bunch of jews from a diff sect of judism than i am told me this, that they would get new plans every 3 months bec they wouldnt pay the bills and cell com gives u three months till they shut it down; plus it wasnt under his passport so it was really connected to him...if they ask u for ur number; u have to think do u plan on just leaving and not paying if they mess u over then give them ur muchedet number, if u just wanna do it straight give ur passport number (also i wonder if theyll charge u tax if u give them ur muchedet or not)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on August 13, 2012, 04:12:29 AM
why davka pelephone? u need bb?

i was in cellcom and a bunch of jews from a diff sect of judism than i am told me this, that they would get new plans every 3 months bec they wouldnt pay the bills and cell com gives u three months till they shut it down; plus it wasnt under his passport so it was really connected to him...if they ask u for ur number; u have to think do u plan on just leaving and not paying if they mess u over then give them ur muchedet number

its a plain לא תעשוק את רעך
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 13, 2012, 08:35:57 AM
its a plain לא תעשוק את רעך

hence why i said another sect of people, i happen to have everything  done thru my passport but this is what the person told me, wierd thing was it was infront of a cellcom guy - and he was nodding in agreement ...
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: statusmiles on August 13, 2012, 09:04:19 AM
wierd thing was it was infront of a cellcom guy - and he was nodding in agreement ...

Only in IL
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: edklar on August 13, 2012, 03:36:27 PM
I am looking to obtain an Android phone for my son heading to yeshiva in Israel.  He must use TalknSave service (they have supplied the SIM card), which means the phone needs to operate on something called HSDPA 850/2100. Need quickly.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 13, 2012, 03:39:55 PM
I am looking to obtain an Android phone for my son heading to yeshiva in Israel.  He must use TalknSave service (they have supplied the SIM card), which means the phone needs to operate on something called HSDPA 850/2100. Need quickly.  Any thoughts?

Just out of curiosity how much does the plan with TalkNSave cost?

http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-defy-android-850-1900-2100-3g-unlocked.html#.UClXop38uHc

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
How much are you looking to spend?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: edklar on August 13, 2012, 03:43:30 PM
Just out of curiosity how much does the plan with TalkNSave cost?

http://negrielectronics.com/motorola-defy-android-850-1900-2100-3g-unlocked.html#.UClXop38uHc

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
How much are you looking to spend?

The plans are VERY expensive. With unlimited talk and data, pklus US number, will be over $100 per month.

I would like to spend as little as possible for an android phone that will work.  $100 or so?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 13, 2012, 03:45:50 PM
The plans are VERY expensive. With unlimited talk and data, pklus US number, will be over $100 per month.

I would like to spend as little as possible for an android phone that will work.  $100 or so?

With plans like Golan out for 99 shekel a month it literally breaks my heart to see the young girls and boys spending that much money a month on their cell phone plans.

 Sigh.

              What about a used Motorola Photon?  How GOOD does the phone have to be?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: edklar on August 13, 2012, 04:01:54 PM
With plans like Golan out for 99 shekel a month it literally breaks my heart to see the young girls and boys spending that much money a month on their cell phone plans.

 Sigh.

              What about a used Motorola Photon?  How GOOD does the phone have to be?

Is that a decent phone (never heard of it)?  My son would like good internet access.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 13, 2012, 04:04:06 PM
Is that a decent phone (never heard of it)?  My son would like good internet access.

More than decent. It's a Sprint phone that has world roaming capabilities. It's my current phone and it works great and has good battery life compared to most Android phones.

           If you can get a good condition one on Ebay that might be something to look into.

         
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: edklar on August 13, 2012, 04:07:30 PM
will check it out, thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 13, 2012, 11:18:24 PM
With plans like Golan out for 99 shekel a month it literally breaks my heart to see the young girls and boys spending that much money a month on their cell phone plans.

 Sigh.
+1000
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 14, 2012, 02:24:01 AM
why davka pelephone? u need bb?

i was in cellcom and a bunch of jews from a diff sect of judism than i am told me this, that they would get new plans every 3 months bec they wouldnt pay the bills and cell com gives u three months till they shut it down; plus it wasnt under his passport so it was really connected to him...if they ask u for ur number; u have to think do u plan on just leaving and not paying if they mess u over then give them ur muchedet number, if u just wanna do it straight give ur passport number (also i wonder if theyll charge u tax if u give them ur muchedet or not)

pelephone because the deal looks good and the service is good...bb because i asked for a cheap phone recommendation and the one i got was the bb tour..

i have no intention of pulling shtik...my question was if there was an alternative to buying a phone on amazon as it is most likely refurbished..

truth is that if amex protection will cover it i dont really mind

any tips? TIA
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 14, 2012, 05:56:31 AM
tia?

i just bought an i[hone 3gs 32gb for 140 shipped and will get it jainbroken and unlocked but if u have the tour then kol hakavode.

yest i was in malcha mall and a pelephone lady stopped me and asked me which service i have i said ani mitzaer; kulam b'sedar; ahe said (in heb) why u sorry wjat service u have i said golan and asked why she sais switch to us, i said again im sorry alls good she sais y u being so sorry, i said bec im not switching. she then said well, if u switch its 94 shek for a gb iphone and all sms and calls included i said i pay 100 and also get that; i asked what about l'chul (usa) she said ya for another 40 shek areound 300 min; i said sms, calls, internet, and chul unlimited - 100 shek,  she said ahh ok now i see y ur sorry and laughed and said ya dont switch u have an amazing plan and we cant beat it except we have better service so kol hakavode
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 14, 2012, 11:55:59 AM
Anyone have an extra sim card in jlm for a few days please pm me
Thank you
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: elikay on August 14, 2012, 12:14:21 PM
tia?

i just bought an i[hone 3gs 32gb for 140 shipped and will get it jainbroken and unlocked but if u have the tour then kol hakavode.

yest i was in malcha mall and a pelephone lady stopped me and asked me which service i have i said ani mitzaer; kulam b'sedar; ahe said (in heb) why u sorry wjat service u have i said golan and asked why she sais switch to us, i said again im sorry alls good she sais y u being so sorry, i said bec im not switching. she then said well, if u switch its 94 shek for a gb iphone and all sms and calls included i said i pay 100 and also get that; i asked what about l'chul (usa) she said ya for another 40 shek areound 300 min; i said sms, calls, internet, and chul unlimited - 100 shek,  she said ahh ok now i see y ur sorry and laughed and said ya dont switch u have an amazing plan and we cant beat it except we have better service so kol hakavode
Am I the only one having trouble deciphering this?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 14, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
Am I the only one having trouble deciphering this?
no your not.
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 14, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
Sorry, and post by me then. In short Pelephone lady said golans the way to go
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 19, 2012, 11:53:44 AM
Hello everyone,
I need some help with getting cell phones in israel I have a iPhone 4s and it's unlocked so I'm looking for a good data plan and also a phone plan so that I can call ppl in israel. My wife has a bb and will need the same sort of thing does anyone know which is the best and cheapest way to get this done?
Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 19, 2012, 12:52:05 PM
Hello everyone,
I need some help with getting cell phones in israel I have a iPhone 4s and it's unlocked so I'm looking for a good data plan and also a phone plan so that I can call ppl in israel. My wife has a bb and will need the same sort of thing does anyone know which is the best and cheapest way to get this done?
Thanks

i have an iphone and this (https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/) is what i use; its the cheapest and best! though it doesnt work on BB, and for that youll have to shop and finagle with orange cellcom and the works for a deal, though the cheapest im hearing now a days is 150 shek
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 19, 2012, 03:49:27 PM

Is the service good? I mean it sounds like metropcs how do u rate the service?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 19, 2012, 03:55:22 PM
Is the service good? I mean it sounds like metropcs how do u rate the service?
gr8
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 19, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
TIA - means thanks in advance...i wanted confirmation that the BB Tour works with Pelephone....?

Does Amex Purchase protection work when buying a phone on Amazon?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 19, 2012, 05:23:06 PM
Is it really worth the hassle and savings if you are coming for sukkos or once a year to buy a phone and get a plan for 2 weeks in eretz Yisroel?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 19, 2012, 05:24:24 PM
Is it really worth the hassle and savings if you are coming for sukkos or once a year to buy a phone and get a plan for 2 weeks in eretz Yisroel?

Worth buying a phone and either A. Getting a plan or even B. Buying a prepaid sim. Either way you'll save from renting from places in America.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 19, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
Worth buying a phone and either A. Getting a plan or even B. Buying a prepaid sim. Either way you'll save from renting from places in America.
I looked for a used or refurb and prices for a decent phone are not that cheap. Getting a plan or buying a sim card for a short time is a hassle from people that I have spoken to.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 19, 2012, 05:52:32 PM
gr8
Is it a sign up plan? Or prepaid? Also does it work all around israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 21, 2012, 01:35:48 AM
this phone looks like it will do the job...refurbished but has a warranty and amex will provide one as well...can someone confirm if it will work in israel?

looks like a winner considering the price...TIA!
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MB502-Unlocked-Android-Keyboard/dp/B006AUZYWI/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&qid=1345527175&sr=8-26&keywords=motorola+unlocked+gsm+3g
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: statusmiles on August 21, 2012, 01:42:33 AM
this phone looks like it will do the job...refurbished but has a warranty and amex will provide one as well...can someone confirm if it will work in israel?

looks like a winner considering the price...TIA!
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MB502-Unlocked-Android-Keyboard/dp/B006AUZYWI/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&qid=1345527175&sr=8-26&keywords=motorola+unlocked+gsm+3g
the title means nothing, there will be no warranty and only used is available under that title
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 21, 2012, 01:45:34 AM
the title means nothing, there will be no warranty and only used is available under that title

used is fine....will it work in the country? what about
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-EX112-Unlocked-QWERTY-Keyboard/dp/tech-data/B004FLL6SU/ref=de_a_smtd

TIA!
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: statusmiles on August 21, 2012, 01:52:51 AM
used is fine....will it work in the country? what about
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-EX112-Unlocked-QWERTY-Keyboard/dp/tech-data/B004FLL6SU/ref=de_a_smtd

TIA!
ex112 will be new, it's a basic gsm phone with keyboard will work
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 21, 2012, 01:54:45 AM
ex112 will be new, it's a basic gsm phone with keyboard will work

thanks! i will order it now and can always return thanks to amex if it turns out not to to be to good..it's not android is it?

can the email be configured to come thru similar to bb?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 21, 2012, 07:35:28 AM
thanks! i will order it now and can always return thanks to amex if it turns out not to to be to good..it's not android is it?

can the email be configured to come thru similar to bb?
What kind of a plan will you be getting that will make the hassle worthwhile. I would like to do the same.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 21, 2012, 11:10:47 AM
What kind of a plan will you be getting that will make the hassle worthwhile. I would like to do the same.

looks like i will get the pelephone plan or perhaps the cellcom big package which includes internet and home phone and 3 lines for 350 nis as part of work...

i meant that in the event that the phone breaks, or just is a piece of junk - by purchasing it on my amex, i'll be able to return it w/o a problem...odds are that from israel they may not require return if its not working

if you're looking for a fancy phone perhaps this isnt it, but for me i just need something simple and this looks like it fits the bill...

can someone tell me if i can program the email to come thru automatically like BB?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 21, 2012, 11:54:55 AM
Thanks for the reply. Sounds like a good plan for what you nerd . Will not work for succos vacation .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on August 21, 2012, 12:22:15 PM
Thanks for the reply. Sounds like a good plan for what you nerd . Will not work for succos vacation .

why not? the new plans have no contract...you buy the sim for less than 100 nis and than can use it for a month and cancel before you go and the number is yours for life....in fact perfect for a vacation!

ps...i can get you an apartment if you need to :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on August 21, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
why not? the new plans have no contract...you buy the sim for less than 100 nis and than can use it for a month and cancel before you go and the number is yours for life....in fact perfect for a vacation!

ps...i can get you an apartment if you need to :)
thanks why no contract if you have to cancel. I found a apt.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on August 22, 2012, 12:44:06 PM
Report on golan service
Got the sims and setup no problem. Phone worked great for israel calls, the US calls sometimes had problems that there was no ringing, so it made it a little hard to tell if it was going through, the hotspot worked great. cancelled by sending registered mail for 10 nis, they confirmed next day. It cancels at the end of the cycle, so be aware you may end up paying for an extra cycle.
Havnt seen the bill but i hope it will be as expected. Overall great for the price.
Bought a new phone -motorola defy on ebay for $200 -perfect. Its a well protected phone from sand and minor water damage you might get on a trip.

When I go back will i be able to reuse the sim cards and restart service, or need new ones?

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 22, 2012, 01:07:54 PM
go back where? america? just put it in should work
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 22, 2012, 01:21:18 PM
go back where? america? just put it in should work
cancelled by sending registered mail for 10 nis, they confirmed next day
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on August 22, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
Report on golan service...
 the hotspot worked great. cancelled by sending registered mail for 10 nis,
Whats Hotspot? cancelled what?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 22, 2012, 02:02:52 PM
Whats Hotspot? cancelled what?

ya was aboput to ask the same thing what hotspot? i happen to have my iphone jailbroken, so i have miwi (free hot spot) but i have golan and i have the same thing with the no ring - its not a big deal to be honest just wait it out or redial, and check this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=139.350) out about cancelling
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 22, 2012, 02:03:22 PM
Whats Hotspot? cancelled what?

Cancelled his service
Hotspot is using your phones internet to access internet on other devices.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on August 22, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
Hotspot saves you from having to rent a usb stick or get wifi while in israel if you want to work off a computer, you use  the internet provided by the golan  to access the internet on your computer.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 22, 2012, 02:26:07 PM
Hotspot saves you from having to rent a usb stick or get wifi while in israel if you want to work off a computer, you use  the internet provided by the golan  to access the internet on your computer.

lol, i know what hotspot is, lol  i mean how do you do it on ur phone? oh u have a phone that u have hotspot capabilities...i got it ....
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ted1124 on August 23, 2012, 04:23:01 PM
My sisters going to seminary in a week and were still not sure what cell carrier to use. Ive heard that since we have tmobile she can keep the phone and just get a new sim. The best option would be with cheap internet as well (if that exsists). Any info would be apreatieated thanks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 23, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
My sisters going to seminary in a week and were still not sure what cell carrier to use. Ive heard that since we have tmobile she can keep the phone and just get a new sim. The best option would be with cheap internet as well (if that exsists). Any info would be apreatieated thanks.

at 24$ a month u cant go wrong unlimited everything!
https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 23, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
My sisters going to seminary in a week and were still not sure what cell carrier to use. Ive heard that since we have tmobile she can keep the phone and just get a new sim. The best option would be with cheap internet as well (if that exsists). Any info would be apreatieated thanks.
welcome to the forums! Why are you still unsure? Read up this thread, and you should become quite sure. Golan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 23, 2012, 05:07:17 PM
welcome to the forums! Why are you still unsure? Read up this thread, and you should become quite sure. Golan.

lol, how many times u think i mustve told ppl about golan, between the forums and fb  at least 100 lol
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 23, 2012, 05:56:14 PM
I just switched from cellcom to pelephone 99 plan unlimited with BB service, went smooth signed up online 3 days ago, used my meuchedet number,  us cc, got the sim delivered to my door today,  number ported in 2 hours.
(had to call to activate bb service since they didnt have the option online) ......so far so good
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 23, 2012, 06:00:33 PM
I just switched from cellcom to pelephone 99 plan unlimited with BB service, went smooth signed up online 3 days ago, used my meuchedet number,  us cc, got the sim delivered to my door today,  number ported in 2 hours.
(had to call to activate bb service since they didnt have the option online) ......so far so good

bb service included? how much after all said and done? wow  good for you! and gr8 about the muchedet nummber - that is ur TZ btw (i just got my first bill from them, and on the bill it calls it my TZ)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 23, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
bb service included? how much after all said and done? wow  good for you! and gr8 about the muchedet nummber - that is ur TZ btw (i just got my first bill from them, and on the bill it calls it my TZ)

Bill is 119 a month -20 for the first 12 months = 99 shekel,  sim was 49

Yes bb service included

About the TZ,  well if i put in tht number as my TZ then theyre gunna call it my TZ  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on August 23, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
Bill is 119 a month -20 for the first 12 months = 99 shekel,  sim was 49

Yes bb service included

About the TZ,  well if i put in tht number as my TZ then theyre gunna call it my TZ  ;)
Wow. I think I'm gonna do this. Number only gets ported after activation, right? Cause I can't be w/o a phone for 3 days
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 23, 2012, 07:15:48 PM
Wow. I think I'm gonna do this. Number only gets ported after activation, right? Cause I can't be w/o a phone for 3 days

lol  first bb service i heard thats decent
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 23, 2012, 09:33:09 PM
I'm still looking for anyone with experience with HOT 10 agurot plan on an iphone.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 24, 2012, 03:39:58 AM
Wow. I think I'm gonna do this. Number only gets ported after activation, right? Cause I can't be w/o a phone for 3 days

Correct, port starts when u insert sim i believe
Outgoing with your caller ID works as soon as you pop in the sim card, incoming took about 3 hours


I'm still looking for anyone with experience with HOT 10 agurot plan on an iphone.

Works perfect with unlocked verizon iphone 4s, a friend with iphone 3 had some issues
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 24, 2012, 07:53:50 AM
I have a 4s. Thanks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 09:03:28 AM
Hello
I've been trying to sign up for the Golan plan but for some reason when I place my cc number in it tells me no debit cards only cc. I am using an American cc chase sapphire but I don't know why it wont work I have a TZ number do that's not the issue.
Can anyone help me out?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 24, 2012, 09:10:40 AM
try going on in cognito, with a new browser, and re signing up
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on August 24, 2012, 09:14:11 AM
whats the cheapest anyone found the iphone 4s...no plan..? whered you find it?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 24, 2012, 09:15:30 AM
whats the cheapest anyone found the iphone 4s...no plan..? whered you find it?

here in israel or america?

prob find a used one for 450 ish (craigslist,ebay)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 09:18:02 AM
What's congnito?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 09:24:03 AM
One more question when I sign up for the golan plan, it says international carrier- ILDP I should allow that or block it? What does international carrier mean, does it mean to allow me to call international or when I go international I would be able to use this phone?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on August 24, 2012, 09:24:21 AM
here in israel or america?

prob find a used one for 450 ish (craigslist,ebay)
im in america now going back to israel in few days... wanna change my plan from orange to golan.
the question is is it worth waiting for the new iphone to come out...do you think the iphone 4s will become much cheaper?


What's congnito?
when your browsing your computer in private. if your in ie or firefox its ctrl+shift+P.
if in chrome its ctrl+shift+N.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
I still tried with the private browser and still didnt work, can it because my TZ number I placed the full number on my passport. Am I suppose to leave out the beginning number ex 3-xxxxxxx-x the number 3 before the number or include it?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 24, 2012, 09:50:27 AM
I still tried with the private browser and still didnt work, can it because my TZ number I placed the full number on my passport. Am I suppose to leave out the beginning number ex 3-xxxxxxx-x the number 3 before the number or include it?

you have muchedet, ur TZ is a one number off than ur passport
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 09:52:52 AM
I don't understand. On the passport it says ID number that's the one that I am putting into the ID number not my passport number.
What's mecudechat?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 24, 2012, 09:57:50 AM
I don't understand. On the passport it says ID number that's the one that I am putting into the ID number not my passport number.
What's mecudechat?

wow, ok, lets start from beggining, what type of passport? american or IL?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 09:58:13 AM
Israeli
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 24, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
I used my "ID number" from my Israeli Passport and signed up no problem. Leave out the first and last number.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 10:13:56 AM
You can't do that it needs to be 9#
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 24, 2012, 10:28:49 AM
You can't do that it needs to be 9#

Hmm. I went back to check my Golan account. It shows 8 numbers. It could be I entered all of them and it automatically took away the first and last number?
Try leaving just the last or just the first.
I can't remember what I did. But it worked!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on August 24, 2012, 10:31:32 AM
@sammy, just play with random 9 digit numbers it should work.
If I may ask, you have Israeli passport but dont know what meuchedet is and more - how does it work?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
Yep please fill me in ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 24, 2012, 10:40:27 AM
@sammy, just play with random 9 digit numbers it should work.
If I may ask, you have Israeli passport but dont know what meuchedet is and more - how does it work?

funny....maskim, whats ur deal?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 10:43:06 AM
I will expalin later but i need help with doing the Golan bec i am going to israel soon then i will say whats my deal NP ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 24, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
hows about u let me order it for u, ill sign up for u.... u can pm me and i will gladly help u, i dont see why i wont use my TZ that i have, deal?  ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
deal
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 11:19:18 AM
I am going to post a pic of what happened please let me know if the same happened to you and what you did. Or any advice would be great. I tried many diff CC and they didnt work. I called chase and they said the charges are going threw, but for some reason this is what i see on my page.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 24, 2012, 11:29:32 AM
I am going to post a pic of what happened please let me know if the same happened to you and what you did. Or any advice would be great. I tried many diff CC and they didnt work. I called chase and they said the charges are going threw, but for some reason this is what i see on my page.


Do you have an AMEX to try? I'm not sure what's going on.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 11:33:28 AM
tried it
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 11:36:33 AM
I tried 2 diff amex cards both of them the same reply as i posted before.
Is the HOT service as good as this?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on August 24, 2012, 11:37:08 AM
yes
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 11:43:07 AM
does anyone know how to call this number from the USA *0058 its Golans number i want to try to call them?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on August 24, 2012, 11:45:31 AM
does anyone know how to call this number from the USA *0058 its Golans number i want to try to call them?

You can only call that number from your golan phone in israel. There is a different number.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 24, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
can i have it please ;D there isnt any on there website
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 25, 2012, 09:42:52 PM
If someone also knows the number direct for HotMobile please post. Thanks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on August 25, 2012, 11:09:27 PM
Have you tried HOT? Do u like it?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on August 26, 2012, 05:46:11 AM
Not yet. I am in the States for another few weeks, trying to set it up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on August 26, 2012, 08:09:47 AM
Anyone with pelephone and a bb 9930 tht can confirm that wifi hotspot works ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on August 28, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
I did some research on this, and I'm pretty sure you can use any phone that is quad-band GSM (850, 900, 1800 and 1900 MHz) and that supports UMTS (most importantly 2100 MHz, but also 1900MHz and possibly 850). For Golan, all you should need is the GSM requirement
is that a requirement also for calls or for the internet to work?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on August 29, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
I am going to post a pic of what happened please let me know if the same happened to you and what you did. Or any advice would be great. I tried many diff CC and they didnt work. I called chase and they said the charges are going threw, but for some reason this is what i see on my page.
Hi i encountered the same issue as you regarding the "no debit card allowed" on golan's website, what did you do to avoid this?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on September 02, 2012, 02:32:10 PM
seems like golan isnt accepting credit cards from outside israel.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on September 02, 2012, 02:46:03 PM
seems like golan isnt accepting credit cards from outside israel.

Is that a new thing? They accepted mine.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: dealer on September 02, 2012, 05:45:37 PM
Is that a new thing? They accepted mine.
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 02, 2012, 07:38:14 PM
seems like golan isnt accepting credit cards from outside israel.

Uh oh... Cellcom has been pulling that crap on me the last few months. Hope it isn't a new trend...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on September 02, 2012, 09:36:04 PM
This company is offering sim cards without the hassle of using Teuda or whatever and Israel Credit card. http://schmoozecellular.com/. The price might not be the best but no hassle. The site is in middle of being developed.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on September 02, 2012, 09:40:06 PM
This company is offering sim cards without the hassle of using Teuda or whatever and Israel Credit card. http://schmoozecellular.com/. The price might not be the best but no hassle. The site is in middle of being developed.

Isn't this just like any other of the companies that rent sim cards for Israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on September 02, 2012, 11:54:20 PM
i know a drop OT but look at the rate its amazing its so high still :-)

but its on and off with the american cc, there are times cellcom and golan wont do it and times where there is no prob
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on September 03, 2012, 07:37:53 AM
Isn't this just like any other of the companies that rent sim cards for Israel?
I like the idea that I do not have to buy a phone for israel. I do not have to bother people to get me the sim card that are Israeli.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 03, 2012, 12:29:29 PM
does the iphone4s from sprint have to jail broken or unlocked in order to be used in israel with golan? or just change sim card?
what about the iphone 4 from sprint?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: DrDanny on September 03, 2012, 12:40:50 PM
It must be unlocked not jailbroken which sprint will do for you if your account is open for more than 3 months and in good standing IIRC
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 03, 2012, 03:45:09 PM
It must be unlocked not jailbroken which sprint will do for you if your account is open for more than 3 months and in good standing IIRC
is that for the 4s or even the 4?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on September 03, 2012, 07:59:04 PM
is that for the 4s or even the 4?
the sprint iphone 4 doesnt have a sim slot..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: duvid crockett on September 04, 2012, 05:19:36 AM
Do any of the Golan users know how much data they give me? If I make a hotspots with my phone will I get unlimited data at high speed or will they slow it down when I reach a certain point?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on September 04, 2012, 07:37:48 AM
Do any of the Golan users know how much data they give me? If I make a hotspots with my phone will I get unlimited data at high speed or will they slow it down when I reach a certain point?
after 1GB I believe. Pelephone for 130 is until 3gb
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: duvid crockett on September 04, 2012, 07:49:45 AM
after 1GB I believe. Pelephone for 130 is until 3gb
Thanx alot Harav chaikel! I have orange unlimited for 135 a month but after 1 gig they slow me down so for another 20 shekels I have another 5 gig. But I can't tether or hotspots with orange on my galaxy s2.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 04, 2012, 08:11:30 AM
Do any of the Golan users know how much data they give me? If I make a hotspots with my phone will I get unlimited data at high speed or will they slow it down when I reach a certain point?

Golan gives you 3GB of data at full speed after which they throttle you.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 04, 2012, 09:46:43 AM
Golan gives you 3GB of data at full speed after which they throttle you.

How does their speed compare to legacy carriers like Pelephone or Cellcom?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 04, 2012, 09:50:09 AM
How does their speed compare to legacy carriers like Pelephone or Cellcom?

I switched from Cellcom where I maxed out at 1mbps now i clock over 3mbps (although I haven't clocked my speed recently).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on September 04, 2012, 10:03:19 AM
I switched from Cellcom where I maxed out at 1mbps now i clock over 3mbps (although I haven't clocked my speed recently).

what do u have?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 04, 2012, 10:04:06 AM
I switched from Cellcom where I maxed out at 1mbps now i clock over 3mbps (although I haven't clocked my speed recently).
Interesting... whose network do they use?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 04, 2012, 10:05:46 AM
what do u have?

I have the Golan Unlimited Plan and a Galaxy S1.

Interesting... whose network do they use?

Golan piggybacks on Cellcom's network.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on September 04, 2012, 10:08:39 AM
i have golan and i love it  of course there are aa few chisronos, i e. the no ring when calling, sometimes the call doesnt go thru but all in all its so worth it and very cheap!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 04, 2012, 10:10:01 AM
i have golan and i love it  of course there are aa few chisronos, i e. the no ring when calling, sometimes the call doesnt go thru but all in all its so worth it and very cheap!
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 04, 2012, 10:23:57 AM
Golan piggybacks on Cellcom's network.
I thought so... so why are they faster then Cellcom?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 04, 2012, 10:25:39 AM
i e. the no ring when calling,

Wuzzat?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygift on September 04, 2012, 10:59:01 AM
what is the best plan now for unlimited calls within israel and to the usa? I also would prefer a plan that goes by the month. Golan has the 99 shekel plan but that requires an isreali issued credit card . is there any other plan out there that is compadible or even cheaper? I do not want internet access only regular calling and maybe texting if it doesnt add to the cost
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 04, 2012, 12:07:21 PM
I thought so... so why are they faster then Cellcom?

Firstly, Cellcom is used as a backup when you can't get direct coverage from Golan's network. Second, Cellcom has started offering faster data packages.

what is the best plan now for unlimited calls within israel and to the usa? I also would prefer a plan that goes by the month. Golan has the 99 shekel plan but that requires an isreali issued credit card . is there any other plan out there that is compadible or even cheaper? I do not want internet access only regular calling and maybe texting if it doesnt add to the cost

All unlimited packages with international calling include data plans, but they are all inclusive (note that texts to the US are not included in the package). Hot and 012 Mobile each have nearly identical plans to Golan. If you really wanted to save 10 shekel a month you could get the Hot plan without international calls which costs 89 shekel/month, and using the included unlimited data package, add a Google Voice account onto your smartphone which would allow you free texting and calls to the US.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygift on September 04, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
avielan
I want davka without internet. I know that with Golan you can do it without data. it wont change the price but there is an option to block internet.
do u have a contact number for hot and 012? (a number that I can dial from the USA?
thanx
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 04, 2012, 01:20:50 PM
012 Mobile - +972-74-7073211
Hot Mobile - +972-53-5003000

also I just realized your problem with Golan was the need for an Israeli CC. I have actually opened an account with a US CC with no problem. Also blocking data usage is very simple and done online through Golan's website. Since it is a bundle package (with all the different carriers) I don't think you are going to find a better deal with unlimited calls (including international) without data.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygift on September 04, 2012, 01:52:36 PM
do u know if there is an activation fee in addition to the 99 shekel ?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 04, 2012, 01:59:11 PM
do u know if there is an activation fee in addition to the 99 shekel ?
I think 30shekel for the sim card (shipping)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 04, 2012, 01:59:39 PM
do u know if there is an activation fee in addition to the 99 shekel ?

It's not an activation fee but a charge to receive the initial sim card.
Golan - NIS 39 and they mail the sim card
Hot - NIS 39 and you have to pick up the sim card from a store of your choice
012 - NIS 49 and they mail the sim card or NIS 33 and you can pick up the sim card.

(all this info is on their respective websites)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yitz on September 04, 2012, 04:48:17 PM
This site is eager to do business.  Schmoozecallular.com. He takes the out of dealing with the israeli cell companies.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on September 04, 2012, 05:02:19 PM
I'm going to Israel for 10 days in November. Ideally I need 2 phones with Internet. Ability to call America would be nice but not 100% necessary. What's my best bet currently? I don't want to spend more than $100.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on September 04, 2012, 05:06:32 PM
I'm going to Israel for 10 days in November. Ideally I need 2 phones with Internet. Ability to call America would be nice but not 100% necessary. What's my best bet currently? I don't want to spend more than $100.

Golan? And then cancel.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on September 04, 2012, 06:44:30 PM
Golan? And then cancel.
na, orange 4$ a day unlimited! sky, its just 10 days, its such a hassle, i would even suggest just do talknsave type 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: A European on September 11, 2012, 12:46:31 PM
I did some research on this, and I'm pretty sure you can use any phone that is quad-band GSM (850, 900, 1800 and 1900 MHz) and that supports UMTS (most importantly 2100 MHz, but also 1900MHz and possibly 850). For Golan, all you should need is the GSM requirement; for HOT you must get UMTS too.

To check a particular phone, you can:
  • Go to http://www.phonearena.com/ and type in the name/model number of the phone in the search bar.
  • Select the phone and you will be on the "Specs" page.
  • Scroll down to the "Technology" section.
  • The supported technologies and bands/frequencies of the selected phone will be listed.

For example:
(http://i.imgur.com/RhPxd.png)

Disclaimer: This is solely based on my research. I am not located in Israel (yet) and have not tested this out. Go
anyone has information about 012 how much MHz works?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: A European on September 11, 2012, 01:08:43 PM
anyone has information about 012 how much MHz works?
Could be i am mistaking but i Didn't see anyone put this http://www.012mobile.co.il/he-il/  (http://www.012mobile.co.il/he-il/) link of  012.
looks like it's a good deal for American ppl 88 shekel for unlimited to Israel and the USA.
Of course if you need Europe so you're better to go with Golan or hot for 99.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: YudiG on September 11, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
I got this phone...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FLL6SU/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00

Calls and sms work but not internet, it's quadband shouldnt it work or did i make a mistake?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: A European on September 11, 2012, 02:25:16 PM
Which phone would work in Israel http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00495YFG2?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links  or http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-E1080-Unlocked-Dual-Band-Phone/dp/B003HC8GEA/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk for 012.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on September 12, 2012, 09:00:06 PM
Which phone would work in Israel http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00495YFG2?ie=UTF8&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links  or http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-E1080-Unlocked-Dual-Band-Phone/dp/B003HC8GEA/ref=cm_cr_dp_asin_lnk for 012.

only the 2nd link!!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on September 12, 2012, 09:01:34 PM
I got this phone...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004FLL6SU/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00

Calls and sms work but not internet, it's quadband shouldnt it work or did i make a mistake?
for web to work you most likely need to go into the web settings in the phone and edit or create the apn(access point name) which is carrier specific...
cellcom is "internetg"
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on September 12, 2012, 09:58:50 PM
Is it possible to get a HOT mobile SIM without a teudat zehut?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on September 12, 2012, 11:51:54 PM
Could be i am mistaking but i Didn't see anyone put this http://www.012mobile.co.il/he-il/  (http://www.012mobile.co.il/he-il/) link of  012.
looks like it's a good deal for American ppl 88 shekel for unlimited to Israel and the USA.
Of course if you need Europe so you're better to go with Golan or hot for 99.
Thanks for posting!
Seems that for an American it'd come out cheaper with 012 than Golan..
Does anyone here have any experience with 012?  Do they run on the same network as Golan (cellcom, no?)?
How long after you buy order the SIM online, can you pick it up from the store?
Where do they have stores?  Never heard of them before...
TIA!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on September 13, 2012, 02:21:41 PM
Is it possible to get a HOT mobile SIM without a teudat zehut?
yes just did it. malcha mall
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: A European on September 13, 2012, 03:28:53 PM
only the 2nd link!!
Are you sure?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on September 13, 2012, 03:42:24 PM
Yes. U need 900 and 1800. The usa uses 850 and 1900. This is for calls and text. Data uses different frequencies.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on September 13, 2012, 07:24:51 PM
Where in Malcha is the HotMobile place?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on September 13, 2012, 09:32:05 PM
i just went through the whole forum. i am going to israel for 2 weeks i have a tmobile bb. i want bb service and email and of course unlimited calling, sms, and international. i see with golan you cant get bb service so thats out. but someone mentioned pelphone for 120 shek and 39 activation but can i cancel after one month? is the cancelation process complicated? where do i get the sim from?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on September 14, 2012, 03:27:18 AM
i just went through the whole forum. i am going to israel for 2 weeks i have a tmobile bb. i want bb service and email and of course unlimited calling, sms, and international. i see with golan you cant get bb service so thats out. but someone mentioned pelphone for 120 shek and 39 activation but can i cancel after one month? is the cancelation process complicated? where do i get the sim from?
I just found out that Pelephone is not unlimited to the US, only 350 minutes. Very shady advertising by them
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on September 14, 2012, 04:09:55 AM
i just went through the whole forum. i am going to israel for 2 weeks i have a tmobile bb. i want bb service and email and of course unlimited calling, sms, and international. i see with golan you cant get bb service so thats out. but someone mentioned pelphone for 120 shek and 39 activation but can i cancel after one month? is the cancelation process complicated? where do i get the sim from?
FYI, I walked into a Pelephone store (on the first block of Geulah -near the corner bank), they told me that they don't sell plans to foreigners, i.e. those who don't have a T.Z.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 14, 2012, 04:17:26 AM
FYI, I walked into a Pelephone store (on the first block of Geulah -near the corner bank), they told me that they don't sell plans to foreigners, i.e. those who don't have a T.Z.
Had the same problem with Orange, even with Israeli CC
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on September 14, 2012, 07:39:35 AM
FYI, I walked into a Pelephone store (on the first block of Geulah -near the corner bank), they told me that they don't sell plans to foreigners, i.e. those who don't have a T.Z.
so whats the best plan out there if i want to use a bb? am i gonna have to give up my bb service and just go w golan w no data or email? if anyone knows of any good ideas please help
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on September 20, 2012, 12:43:34 AM
yes just did it. malcha mall
Thanks! Seems to me this is the best option for occasional visitors, since you can switch to the no monthly charge plan when you aren't in Israel.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on September 20, 2012, 01:51:20 AM
Bump.
Does anyone here have any experience with 012?  On who's network do they run?
How long after you buy order the SIM online, can you pick it up from the store?
Where do they have stores?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on September 20, 2012, 07:10:47 PM
How do you switch from the monthly plan to the straight 10 agurot plan. Online?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on September 20, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
How do you switch from the monthly plan to the straight 10 agurot plan. Online?
Yup.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: kingsfan33 on September 21, 2012, 02:39:11 AM
FYI, I walked into a Pelephone store (on the first block of Geulah -near the corner bank), they told me that they don't sell plans to foreigners, i.e. those who don't have a T.Z.

are there pre-paid providers that will sell to a non-israeli-citizen?
i was under the impression that i can walk in to a supermarket and just buy a prepaid sim to pop into my unlocked gsm phone. but im hearing that they wont sell to a citizen? this is preferred option since other providers like nesmobile or talknsave are about $8/daily for voice/text/data

ALSO

I heard there is a method to get your US number to forward to an israeli number, anyone know how?
thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 21, 2012, 02:48:56 AM
Lots of makolets sell pre-paid sims.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: kingsfan33 on September 21, 2012, 02:50:52 AM
will the makolet sell the prepaid sim if i dont have a T.Z. / israeli ID?
Im staying in rechavya - can you recommend a place?
thx
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 21, 2012, 04:12:33 AM
will the makolet sell the prepaid sim if i dont have a T.Z. / israeli ID?
Im staying in rechavya - can you recommend a place?
thx
Yes.
Sorry, no. But I'm sure the around king george you can find. Try a mobile phone store.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on September 21, 2012, 04:12:57 AM
Where in Malcha is the HotMobile place?
ground floor in side corridor
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on September 21, 2012, 05:50:35 PM
ground floor in side corridor
According to their website they also have a store in tachane merkazit, which is more convenient to get to from the city center (just hop on the light rail).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 24, 2012, 09:33:09 AM
when i put in my kosher number into golanto keep it...at the third page where it has order confirmation under internet it says "blocked (kosher)"- does that mean wen i get the sim i wont have internet? or its just saying that is wat i used to have?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 24, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
when i put in my kosher number into golanto keep it...at the third page where it has order confirmation under internet it says "blocked (kosher)"- does that mean wen i get the sim i wont have internet? or its just saying that is wat i used to have?
Probably only saying what you have
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 24, 2012, 05:50:56 PM
Probably only saying what you have

Probably or you know forsure? i just dont want to order it with my old number number and not have internet when the sim comes...

does the kosher part/no internet  have to do with the phone number or the service provider/plan i have?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 24, 2012, 06:58:58 PM
Probably or you know forsure? i just dont want to order it with my old number number and not have internet when the sim comes...

does the kosher part/no internet  have to do with the phone number or the service provider/plan i have?
A kosher number must always stay kosher. The Mafia that runs the kosher phone industry makes sure of that. If you change carriers and port your number, you will still be limited to kosher functionality on your new phone.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 24, 2012, 07:01:12 PM
A kosher number must always stay kosher. The Mafia that runs the kosher phone industry makes sure of that. If you change carriers and port your number, you will still be limited to kosher functionality on your new phone.
Now thats annoying...if i cancel the number from orig provider and request it from golan..will they give it to me? would it still be kosher?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 24, 2012, 07:07:05 PM
nevermind...just realized golan is only offering numbers that start with 058
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 25, 2012, 02:05:06 AM
Now thats annoying...if i cancel the number from orig provider and request it from golan..will they give it to me? would it still be kosher?

It doesn't matter...

A kosher number must always stay kosher. The Mafia that runs the kosher phone industry makes sure of that. If you change carriers and port your number, you will still be limited to kosher functionality on your new phone.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 26, 2012, 06:01:17 PM
so apparently golan is not accepting anymore american ccs...does any one know if an israeli debit card would work?
or if there's any way to get golan to accept an american cc?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 26, 2012, 06:11:59 PM
so apparently golan is not accepting anymore american ccs...does any one know if an israeli debit card would work?
Yep it should.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on September 26, 2012, 06:26:15 PM
so apparently golan is not accepting anymore american ccs...does any one know if an israeli debit card would work?
or if there's any way to get golan to accept an american cc?
Anyone know if HOT Mobile takes American CC's?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 26, 2012, 06:44:16 PM
Anyone know if HOT Mobile takes American CC's?

Paging andrew...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 26, 2012, 06:50:37 PM
Yep it should.

do u by any chance have golan and you use an israeli debit card? or youre taking a guess that it should work?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 26, 2012, 07:08:24 PM
do u by any chance have golan and you use an israeli debit card? or youre taking a guess that it should work?
A guess. Btw it doesn't hurt to try.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 26, 2012, 07:14:04 PM
Anyone know if HOT Mobile takes American CC's?
They do, even though I never picked up my SIM card from their service center
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 26, 2012, 07:19:22 PM
A guess. Btw it doesn't hurt to try.

I would try if I had one...if i knew it worked I would go through the process to get one
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 26, 2012, 07:30:27 PM
I would try if I had one...if i knew it worked I would go through the process to get one
Then just get a cc. Np as a US citizen, but they have stupid fees
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on September 26, 2012, 08:19:34 PM
They do, even though I never picked up my SIM card from their service center
So if I walk into their store in tachane merkazit Jerusalem with an American CC and no T.Z., they'll give me a SIM on the spot with no problems? The website requires a T.Z. at both sign up and delivery.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 26, 2012, 08:37:20 PM
Then just get a cc. Np as a US citizen, but they have stupid fees

Can be avoided by bringing your bank a letter that you are a student when opening your account.

Or get a Yesh! CC, which has no fees for the first year.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 26, 2012, 08:41:43 PM
Can be avoided by bringing your bank a letter that you are a student when opening your account.


will that avoid the fee to open the bank account? or even to get a cc?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 26, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
That will avoid ALL fees. Account fees, transaction fees, ATM fees, CC fees... :)

Furthermore, Le'umi has a promo that when you open a student account and take their CC, for the next 36 months, each month you spend 600 NIS or more on the CC, you get a credit of ~42 NIS. If you spend just about 600 (not too much more), that works out to a %7 rebate. :D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 26, 2012, 09:07:45 PM
That will avoid ALL fees. Account fees, transaction fees, ATM fees, CC fees... :)

Furthermore, Le'umi has a promo that when you open a student account and take their CC, for the next 36 months, each month you spend 600 NIS or more on the CC, you get a credit of ~42 NIS. If you spend just about 600 (not too much more), that works out to a %7 rebate. :D
Thanks!
sorry if off topic but do u by any chance know any where else in israel that doesnt accept america cc? cuz if im spending on israeli cc im losing out in points...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 26, 2012, 09:17:18 PM
Thanks!
sorry if off topic but do u by any chance know any where else in israel that doesnt accept america cc? cuz if im spending on israeli cc im losing out in points...

Self-service gas pumps at Paz/Yellow stations.

Other than that... just keep your spending to exactly 600 per month, and you're not losing anything. %7 rebate is like getting 7 cpp for the points you could have earned - not too shabby...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on September 26, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
i just went through the whole forum. i am going to israel for 2 weeks i have a tmobile bb. i want bb service and email and of course unlimited calling, sms, and international. i see with golan you cant get bb service so thats out. but someone mentioned pelphone for 120 shek and 39 activation but can i cancel after one month? is the cancelation process complicated? where do i get the sim from?

Does anyone have any practical advice?

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 26, 2012, 09:47:01 PM
Pelephone won't sell u anything without an Israeli TZ #.

Orange is your best bet, but roaming will probably be cheaper.
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on September 26, 2012, 09:50:46 PM
Is a student visa good for a tz?

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 26, 2012, 09:58:46 PM
Is a student visa good for a tz?
No.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on September 27, 2012, 03:19:09 AM
does anyone know if the new iphone 5 will work with golan, bec the new iphone has a nano sim, is that the same as a micro sim?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on September 27, 2012, 03:39:26 AM
does anyone know if the new iphone 5 will work with golan, bec the new iphone has a nano sim, is that the same as a micro sim?
No, it's even smaller. Just walk into any phone store and they can cut it for you.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on September 27, 2012, 03:56:30 AM
does anyone know if the new iphone 5 will work with golan, bec the new iphone has a nano sim, is that the same as a micro sim?
golans website is down now but if IIRC they said that mid October they will be having sims for the iphone 5
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on September 27, 2012, 08:48:00 AM
golans website is down now but if IIRC they said that mid October they will be having sims for the iphone 5

thanks :-)   hope so, also they cant sut te sim into nano, bec its thinner too
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 27, 2012, 09:43:17 AM
<rant>

What the heck is up with micro- and nano-SIMs, anyway?! I mean, I can understand wanting to shrink, say, a CompactFlash card. Or a floppy disk. But a freaking SIM?! Wasn't it small enough to begin with?! And once they already made made micro-SIMs... are they still not small enough?! We have to go down to nano-SIMs??!! Tell me, Apple... does the three-and-a-half hairsbreadths you save on the SIM size really make such an earth-shattering difference in the design of your products, that we have to put up with so many different standards??!!  >:(

</rant>
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: WhyAich on September 27, 2012, 10:11:54 AM
<rant>

What the heck is up with micro- and nano-SIMs, anyway?! I mean, I can understand wanting to shrink, say, a CompactFlash card. Or a floppy disk. But a freaking SIM?! Wasn't it small enough to begin with?! And once they already made made micro-SIMs... are they still not small enough?! We have to go down to nano-SIMs??!! Tell me, Apple... does the three-and-a-half hairsbreadths you save on the SIM size really make such an earth-shattering difference in the design of your products, that we have to put up with so many different standards??!!  >:(

</rant>

We'll quite you on this in 5 years :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 27, 2012, 10:30:04 AM
We'll quite you on this in 5 years :)

It's been over five years and I STILL don't get why we needed SD AND miniSD AND microSD. At the very most, one regular size + one miniature version  (for really small devices that absolutely must have a miniature version) of something like that ought to be enough.

Besides, in five years, if they have an iDevice the size of a pack of gum that needs a SIM, maybe I'll have no problem with it. But right now, there is no logical reason why an iPhone is bigger than my LG or my wife's Samsung, yet our phones have room for a regular SIM AND a memory card slot AND a removable battery, while the iPhone barely fits a micro (and now a nano) SIM.

Plus, people are still getting the hang of the whole regular-vs-micro SIM thing. No need to throw ANOTHER size into the mix, is there?

Finally, consider the point of diminishing returns: smaller may be better and more efficient, but there comes a point when things become TOO small. Too small to hold, to small to handle, too small to pass to a friend without fear of dropping that rice-grain-sized piece of technology. I keep multiple SIMs in my wallet when I travel to different countries, and as it is, I'm afraid of them falling out without me ever noticing. And those are regular sized SIMs. Micros would be even worse. And nano? Fuggedaboutit!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 27, 2012, 11:58:55 AM
Like everyone else, I got tired of paying Cellcom through my nose. So I decided to call them up and threaten to switch to Golan or Orange, and see if they offer me a retention deal. Here is what they offered me:

Price: 299 NIS/month

2 lines (SIM only, no phone)
-Unlimited talk
-Unlimited text
-1 GB of high speed Internet; throttled after that
-200 minutes/month calls to USA

1 tablet with SIM
Choice of:
- iPad 3 16 GB
- Galaxy Tab 10.1
- Xoom 2
- ASUS Transformer TF101G
1 GB of internet at high speed; throttled after that

Home Internet service
Netvision Internet subscription (up to 10 Mbps) for home Internet, included in the cell package


Is it worth it? Can I do better? (Note: I am willing to pay a few shekels more for a legacy carrier, since I've heard that Golan hasn't worked out all their issues yet, so telling me "Golan is 100 NIS" ain't gonna the answer I'm looking for$. :))
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: bh on September 27, 2012, 05:08:09 PM
Quote
So if I walk into their store in tachane merkazit Jerusalem with an American CC and no T.Z., they'll give me a SIM on the spot with no problems? The website requires a T.Z. at both sign up and delivery.

In my experience they won't
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 27, 2012, 07:43:32 PM
Like everyone else, I got tired of paying Cellcom through my nose. So I decided to call them up and threaten to switch to Golan or Orange, and see if they offer me a retention deal. Here is what they offered me:

Price: 299 NIS/month

2 lines (SIM only, no phone)
-Unlimited talk
-Unlimited text
-1 GB of high speed Internet; throttled after that
-200 minutes/month calls to USA

1 tablet with SIM
Choice of:
- iPad 3 16 GB
- Galaxy Tab 10.1
- Xoom 2
- ASUS Transformer TF101G
1 GB of internet at high speed; throttled after that

Home Internet service
Netvision Internet subscription (up to 10 Mbps) for home Internet, included in the cell package


Is it worth it? Can I do better? (Note: I am willing to pay a few shekels more for a legacy carrier, since I've heard that Golan hasn't worked out all their issues yet, so telling me "Golan is 100 NIS" ain't gonna the answer I'm looking for$. :))

This "deal" really depends on what you want and need. What is the payment plan for the tablet? I assume its the charge/refund policy that the legacy carriers in Israel are infamous for. This usually is spread over 36 months. You should find out what you will have to pay if you change your plan in the future.

As far as the rest of the plan, your international calling is limited which in my mind is a big minus unless you don't really use it (keep in mind that you can use GV and Talkatone for unlimited free calls to and from the US) also the data is limited to 1Gb as opposed to 3Gb, I would also try to find out what minimum speed they are willing to guarantee. I switched from Cellcom where on a good day I was getting 1mbps.

I currently have 3 unlimited Golan plans.
For my home internet I get 12mb. For ISP I pay NIS 30 to Bezeq Benleumi and another NIS 70 to HOT for my tashtit (note that Cellcom's offer does not include tashtit so make sure to take that into account when you compare).

I have heard of offers which include home phone lines (although with unlimited cellphones I am not sure if you need that).

Bottom line for me, I wouldn't want to have any long term commitment to any of the communications companies. The tablet aspect almost definitely has a 36 month commitment to pay off the tablet and if you leave Cellcom it will cost you. If you really want the tablet it will almost definitely be cheaper to buy it elsewhere.

There is a really good Israeli site (in hebrew) for comparing the various communication bundles, I recommend that you check it out to compare the latest promotions being offered - www.kamaze.co.il
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 27, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Its a good deal if you want an iPad.

Cellcom cellular data is terrible IME.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on September 28, 2012, 03:00:03 AM
In my experience they won't
So what did you do?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 28, 2012, 04:15:47 AM
This "deal" really depends on what you want and need. What is the payment plan for the tablet? I assume its the charge/refund policy that the legacy carriers in Israel are infamous for. This usually is spread over 36 months. You should find out what you will have to pay if you change your plan in the future.

I think it's like 40 NIS per month, for 36 months.

As far as the rest of the plan, your international calling is limited which in my mind is a big minus unless you don't really use it (keep in mind that you can use GV and Talkatone for unlimited free calls to and from the US) also the data is limited to 1Gb as opposed to 3Gb, I would also try to find out what minimum speed they are willing to guarantee. I switched from Cellcom where on a good day I was getting 1mbps.

Good points, thanks.

I currently have 3 unlimited Golan plans.
For my home internet I get 12mb. For ISP I pay NIS 30 to Bezeq Benleumi and another NIS 70 to HOT for my tashtit (note that Cellcom's offer does not include tashtit so make sure to take that into account when you compare).

I have heard of offers which include home phone lines (although with unlimited cellphones I am not sure if you need that).

From Cellcom?

Bottom line for me, I wouldn't want to have any long term commitment to any of the communications companies. The tablet aspect almost definitely has a 36 month commitment to pay off the tablet and if you leave Cellcom it will cost you. If you really want the tablet it will almost definitely be cheaper to buy it elsewhere.

There is a really good Israeli site (in hebrew) for comparing the various communication bundles, I recommend that you check it out to compare the latest promotions being offered - www.kamaze.co.il

Thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 28, 2012, 04:40:25 AM
Its a good deal if you want an iPad.

I kind of do... the one I have is 64 GB, with just WiFi. But now I'm thinking that getting one without cellular was a big no-no. If I get Cellcom's iPad, I can sell my old one...

So, is this actually a good way to get hold of an iPad (or other tablet)? Or should I rather try to have someone bring me one from the US?

Cellcom cellular data is terrible IME.

True dat... is Orange any better? (I hear Pelephone is pretty anti-Chutznik these days...)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 28, 2012, 06:35:48 AM
(I hear Pelephone is pretty anti-Chutznik these days...)
I had their service for awhile, until they came up with a pathetic 2500nis bill, so I had to port my number over to Cellcom.

TalkNsave uses the Pelephone network if u absolutely need it.

Not sure if Orange is better or not.

Its a good deal if you're otherwise buying an iPad with service. (Golan/Hot 3*100= 300, here you get a free iPad in return for a 3 yr commitment. You don't lose by that because prices cannot go any lower without everyone going bankrupt IMHO)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on September 28, 2012, 04:34:33 PM
I think it's like 40 NIS per month, for 36 months.

-->so essentially you are paying $360 (40NIS*36month/~4=$360) for a 16Gb iPad spread over 3 years.

From Cellcom?

-->Several of the companies were offering similar packages which included cellphone, VOIP landline, internet and international calling. Cellcom offered me one like that when I switched over to Golan but it wasn't good enough for me.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmooz on September 30, 2012, 10:51:12 AM
Report on golan service
Got the sims and setup no problem. Phone worked great for israel calls, the US calls sometimes had problems that there was no ringing, so it made it a little hard to tell if it was going through, the hotspot worked great. cancelled by sending registered mail for 10 nis, they confirmed next day. It cancels at the end of the cycle, so be aware you may end up paying for an extra cycle.
Havnt seen the bill but i hope it will be as expected. Overall great for the price.
Bought a new phone -motorola defy on ebay for $200 -perfect. Its a well protected phone from sand and minor water damage you might get on a trip.

When I go back will i be able to reuse the sim cards and restart service, or need new ones?


so golan continued to charge me for one line after i cancelled, and did not respond to my email, called amex plat and they refunded the $25 with no hassle, i dont even think they opened an inquiry, just hope golan doesnt continue to keep charging...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 01, 2012, 05:44:02 PM
HotMobile has been a problem with the setup. I got the sim cards for 4 lines at Malcha. They generated a teudat zehut number for me since I am american. They didnt port my 2 old numbers over and changing from plan to plan is a nightmare (over 30 minute wait on phone for service each time). I finally reverted to the 10 agurot per minute plan since I won't call them again if I can help it and can't switch online.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 01, 2012, 05:45:11 PM
BTW, they are using my American credit card and the phone service and iphone internet service has been good.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 01, 2012, 05:56:02 PM
BTW, they are using my American credit card and the phone service and iphone internet service has been good.
why did u use HOT over golan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 02, 2012, 02:06:25 AM
I'm not here moist of the year and they have a 10 agurot plan which is 10% of what I was paying Orange for their Talkman.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: satturn on October 02, 2012, 04:15:24 PM
I'm not here moist of the year and they have a 10 agurot plan which is 10% of what I was paying Orange for their Talkman.
+1
i just signed up 2 lines in the central bus station. i switched plans without a problem- only issue was a long hold time.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 02, 2012, 04:27:30 PM
Hour hold time, but then they helped me switch my Orange Talkman number over to HotMobile.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: satturn on October 04, 2012, 05:26:07 AM
+1
i just signed up 2 lines in the central bus station. i switched plans without a problem- only issue was a long hold time.
also on the phone they will not take an US cc- or even an israeli debit card- but in person they agreed to take any visa.(not mc or amex)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 04, 2012, 04:44:41 PM
Right. And they generated a teudat zehut number for me that I can use elsewhere. I tried to get my son here in Israel onto the 012 plan (88 shekels per month) because he has a blackberry- they took the TZ but didn't work since I dont have an Israeli credit card
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Sammy12345 on October 04, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
I used my MC and they asked me if it was Israeli i just told them YES and it worked. (thats for HOT mobile i am talking)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: bh on October 05, 2012, 02:07:43 AM
Quote
So what did you do?

I left.  :(

It looks like "njmacman" had better experience in malcha

Quote
HotMobile has been a problem with the setup. I got the sim cards for 4 lines at Malcha. They generated a teudat zehut number for me since I am american. They didnt port my 2 old numbers over and changing from plan to plan is a nightmare (over 30 minute wait on phone for service each time). I finally reverted to the 10 agurot per minute plan since I won't call them again if I can help it and can't switch online.



Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 05, 2012, 07:47:09 AM
Working perfectly for me now. Good service in Jerusalem, Maale Adumim, and Sderot. Rough in Efrat.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 05, 2012, 07:49:10 AM
HOT doesn't care if it is Israeli credit card or American card.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 05, 2012, 09:31:45 AM
any one with a nano sim from golan left?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on October 05, 2012, 01:28:05 PM
With plans like Golan out for 99 shekel a month it literally breaks my heart to see the young girls and boys spending that much money a month on their cell phone plans.

 Sigh.

              What about a used Motorola Photon?  How GOOD does the phone have to be?


+111
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on October 05, 2012, 01:31:58 PM

When I go back will i be able to reuse the sim cards and restart service, or need new ones?


You will need to get a new one.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on October 05, 2012, 01:48:32 PM
Hello
I've been trying to sign up for the Golan plan but for some reason when I place my cc number in it tells me no debit cards only cc. I am using an American cc chase sapphire but I don't know why it wont work I have a TZ number do that's not the issue.
Can anyone help me out?

it won't let you with an american c/c you can by prepaid visa card in any post office.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on October 05, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
Do any of the Golan users know how much data they give me? If I make a hotspots with my phone will I get unlimited data at high speed or will they slow it down when I reach a certain point?


Golan state that thy will slow you down after 3Gb , but thy never do .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: satturn on October 07, 2012, 01:44:46 AM
HOT doesn't care if it is Israeli credit card or American card.
when i signed up 2 lines last week- they only would take a US visa card- or an israeli CC- not debit.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on October 07, 2012, 01:48:06 AM
Golan sent out an email offering current Golans users 4 months free service on any added lines (ported numbers only I believe).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on October 07, 2012, 01:51:35 AM
Golan sent out an email offering current Golans users 4 months free service on any added lines (ported numbers only I believe).
ported numbers only
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: hocker on October 11, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
I would like to sign up for HOT doesn anyone know their prefix 05X?  don't want their prefix if it isn't standard. How can I get hold of a standard prefix # to port it into them?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: JEWDA on October 11, 2012, 10:46:14 AM
I would like to sign up for HOT doesn anyone know their prefix 05X?  don't want their prefix if it isn't standard. How can I get hold of a standard prefix # to port it into them?
Isn't it 077?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mickeyg on October 11, 2012, 10:50:45 AM
Isn't it 077?
Mine is 053...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 11, 2012, 10:53:40 AM
Isn't it 077?
thats HOT landlines...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on October 11, 2012, 01:52:57 PM
Any one with HOT here that had to download the opera browser in order to get internet? Im Having trouble downloading the browser on a blackberry
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 11, 2012, 05:00:21 PM
Mickeyg is right. He got 053, I got an 054 number moved from Orange.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 12, 2012, 07:20:11 AM
URGENT!
I have a Hot-mobile cellphone acct that renews today (I was told by the girl at the store that (all?) Hot mobile phones renew on the 12th of each month), I don't want to be charged for another month because I didn't cancel today.
Problem is that Hot is closed for the day!  No longer in Israel, I didn't realize that it's Friday and that they'd close early..

Anybody know of any other way to reach them?  Perhaps a phone number to a Hot store that is still open, and that I can call to change my plan to the 10 agurot (or cancel)?

I don't seem to find any of phone numbers, please help!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 12, 2012, 07:53:32 AM
URGENT!
I have a Hot-mobile cellphone acct that renews today (I was told by the girl at the store that (all?) Hot mobile phones renew on the 12th of each month), I don't want to be charged for another month because I didn't cancel today.
Problem is that Hot is closed for the day!  No longer in Israel, I didn't realize that it's Friday and that they'd close early..

Anybody know of any other way to reach them?  Perhaps a phone number to a Hot store that is still open, and that I can call to change my plan to the 10 agurot (or cancel)?

I don't seem to find any of phone numbers, please help!

Try calling malcha or tachana merkazit
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 12, 2012, 08:18:47 AM
Try calling malcha or tachana merkazit
Problem is, IDK how to find their number..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 14, 2012, 10:46:07 AM
Anyone know a phone number to contact HOT that I can call from abroad without being charged for calling mobile (i.e. not 05)?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: andrew on October 14, 2012, 11:27:12 AM
Maybe try fax r email that you couls late refence it that you requested a cancellation on the correct date
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 14, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
Maybe try fax r email that you couls late refence it that you requested a cancellation on the correct date
Too late for that, the date is passed, though I'll still try my luck.  But if I'm on hold for a long while, the cost of the call (since their number is 05) really starts to make me wonder if this whole idea is worth it to begin with.

So, back to my original question:
 Anyone know a phone number to contact HOT that I can call from abroad without being charged for calling mobile (i.e. not 05)?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on October 14, 2012, 11:39:21 AM
if you just want to cancel there is a website that allows you to easily cancel your plan with several companies, www.netek.co.il (http://www.netek.co.il) (FYI its all in Hebrew). The process is real simple.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 14, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
if you just want to cancel there is a website that allows you to easily cancel your plan with several companies, www.netek.co.il (http://www.netek.co.il) (FYI its all in Hebrew). The process is real simple.
I was planning on changing to the free/10 agurot plan.  However if I choose to cancel, will I be able to use the same sim card again when I come to Israel next time?  Or would I have to pay for a new one?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 14, 2012, 01:25:44 PM
Did anyone here call orange to ask them for a better offer before switching to Golan and actually got one?

What did you say to them to receive it?

I just called and they said they're not offering anything like that now....HUCA?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 14, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
I reached HOT, in order to access my acct they need my Teudat Zehut (which I don't have), w/o it they said they can't change or cancel my plan! 

When I signed up in Malcha, she took my drivers license as ID, she never gave me any number as a TZ... What do I do now, how do I get out of this?

I can't cancel with "netek" either without a TZ..
Am I stuck?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 14, 2012, 07:30:42 PM
Go backl to Malcha and ask them for the number they used for the TZ. They gave me mine. Without it you can't do anything.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 14, 2012, 08:47:54 PM
Go backl to Malcha and ask them for the number they used for the TZ. They gave me mine. Without it you can't do anything.
I would do that without the blink of an eye, however.... I'm not in Israel now.
That's my issue.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 14, 2012, 09:41:47 PM
Anybody has any experience with Orange data? How does it compare to Cellcom? Or HOT Mobile?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 14, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
Anybody has any experience with Orange data? How does it compare to Cellcom? Or HOT Mobile?
A few months ago I used Orange (shout out to @BISPRO), now I used Hot Mobile.

Orange seemed slower than HOT, at least by me.  Perhaps it was the particular phone I used, perhaps it was psychological, IDK, but having used both, that's what I feel.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 15, 2012, 02:32:43 AM
A few months ago I used Orange (shout out to @BISPRO), now I used Hot Mobile.

Orange seemed slower than HOT, at least by me.  Perhaps it was the particular phone I used, perhaps it was psychological, IDK, but having used both, that's what I feel.

How about orange data compared to Golan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 15, 2012, 08:32:30 AM
any one recently opened an account with Golan? After putting in cc info they said "credit card error. Incorrect CCV/ID. (006)."

Anyone else got this?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 15, 2012, 08:39:50 AM
any one recently opened an account with Golan? After putting in cc info they said "credit card error. Incorrect CCV/ID. (006)."

Anyone else got this?
See earlier posts, DDF'r experience points to Golan not accepting American CC's.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 15, 2012, 08:43:36 AM
See earlier posts, DDF'r experience points to Golan not accepting American CC's.

I have an israeli cc
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 15, 2012, 10:28:17 AM
any one recently opened an account with Golan? After putting in cc info they said "credit card error. Incorrect CCV/ID. (006)."

Anyone else got this?
I just got off the phone with Golan...they said that being i wrote my name in english and not hebrew that could be the problem...anyone else had this? Does that even make sense?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 15, 2012, 11:20:24 AM
I just got off the phone with Golan...they said that being i wrote my name in english and not hebrew that could be the problem...anyone else had this? Does that even make sense?
They can't charge your card if they don't have the name as written on the card.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 15, 2012, 11:25:08 AM
Try calling malcha or tachana merkazit
I meant that you can call the main number of malcha and get the number for the Hot store.
Sorry I couldn't explain it then, I was very busy Friday.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 15, 2012, 11:34:31 AM
Did anyone here call orange to ask them for a better offer before switching to Golan and actually got one?

What did you say to them to receive it?

I just called and they said they're not offering anything like that now....HUCA?

I spoke to them today, they have a plan for 135 shekel that includes international calls to landlines, 40 shekel extra for bb service and you get 2+1 free.

I'm thinking of signing up for cellcom as they have a similar plan for 160 shekel that also includes calls to international mobiles also with 2+1 free.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 15, 2012, 11:42:19 AM

I spoke to them today, they have a plan for 135 shekel that includes international calls to landlines, 40 shekel extra for bb service and you get 2+1 free.

I'm thinking of signing up for cellcom as they have a similar plan for 160 shekel that also includes calls to international mobiles also with 2+1 free.
Still way cheaper than anything in the USA.

BTW, what's this 2+1 thing mean?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 15, 2012, 12:25:21 PM
They can't charge your card if they don't have the name as written on the card.

I hear that.  Anyways the error still came up after putting my name in hebrew.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 15, 2012, 12:34:45 PM

I spoke to them today, they have a plan for 135 shekel that includes international calls to landlines, 40 shekel extra for bb service and you get 2+1 free.

I'm thinking of signing up for cellcom as they have a similar plan for 160 shekel that also includes calls to international mobiles also with 2+1 free.

Is there any advantages that orange has over golan thats worth 35 nis a month?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 15, 2012, 12:37:00 PM


BTW, what's this 2+1 thing mean?

Orange has a deal 3 phones unlimited for 270...so u can either look at it 2 phones for 135 nis a month with one phone free or 3 phones for 90 nis a month
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 15, 2012, 12:51:19 PM
Orange has a deal 3 phones unlimited for 270...so u can either look at it 2 phones for 135 nis a month with one phone free or 3 phones for 90 nis a month
Wow, you guys in IL have amazing deals!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 15, 2012, 03:47:10 PM
Wow, you guys in IL have amazing deals!

No need to be jealous. These are all recent developments. For many years, we suffered with no unlimited plans, three year contracts, and nothing even remotely close to Sprint's retention department.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 15, 2012, 07:50:49 PM
If someone needs three phones cellcom os offering 3 cellphone unlimited plans and landline (5mb i think). 

Does anyone jave any good ideas with internet - bezek/hot.  Bec im paying 32$ a mnth for internet at 10mb with cellcom - though it ends in january "my deal"
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 15, 2012, 09:11:54 PM
If someone needs three phones cellcom os offering 3 cellphone unlimited plans and landline (5mb i think). 

Does anyone jave any good ideas with internet - bezek/hot.  Bec im paying 32$ a mnth for internet at 10mb with cellcom - though it ends in january "my deal"
Why not just get one of those unlimited cellphone deals, and tether from your phone?
Speed?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on October 15, 2012, 09:17:02 PM
I am going to Israel for 2 weeks. I want 2 phones with unlimited everything including calling America and bb service what's the cheapeast but also not such a hassle Im willing on spending somewhere between 75$ and 100$ for both phones. I have tmobile so could unlock them. Also I think I would rather get them in the. Us before I go.  Any advice
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 16, 2012, 05:44:17 AM
Why not just get one of those unlimited cellphone deals, and tether from your phone?
Speed?

Latency.

Also, most of us expats use a VoIP line from a company like Vonage/Jivetel for keeping in touch with family in the US. No way to connect that to a cellphone...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on October 16, 2012, 06:33:32 AM
Latency.

Also, most of us expats use a VoIP line from a company like Vonage/Jivetel for keeping in touch with family in the US. No way to connect that to a cellphone...

not advocating for tethering, but why bother with a voip company when you can just use an app like talkatone with GV on your smartphone to make and receive US calls on top of which most Israeli cellphone plans today have unlimited international calling including US mobile.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 16, 2012, 07:55:00 AM
not advocating for tethering, but why bother with a voip company when you can just use an app like talkatone with GV on your smartphone to make and receive US calls on top of which most Israeli cellphone plans today have unlimited international calling including US mobile.

1) Many (most?) people do not have smartphones. There are a lot of the so-called kosher phones out there, and even the people who have regular plans, many have dumbphones.

2) Smarthphone ≠ automatic VoIP goodness. For example, GrooVe IP on my LG P999 sounds like crap when using Cellcom's network.

3) There is something to be said for the "cultural difference" between a cellphone (a more intimate, personal device, which usually lives on the owner's belt or in his/her pocket) and a house phone (a central appliance that is always available to everyone in the household, including children).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on October 16, 2012, 08:57:02 AM
1) Many (most?) people do not have smartphones. There are a lot of the so-called kosher phones out there, and even the people who have regular plans, many have dumbphones.

2) Smarthphone ≠ automatic VoIP goodness. For example, GrooVe IP on my LG P999 sounds like crap when using Cellcom's network.

3) There is something to be said for the "cultural difference" between a cellphone (a more intimate, personal device, which usually lives on the owner's belt or in his/her pocket) and a house phone (a central appliance that is always available to everyone in the household, including children).
if u have unlimited international calling, and get a service to fwd us calls to ur cell, reasons 1 & 2 are taken care of. Reason 3 ::), more than 25% of homes are cell phone only. You sound old fashined
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmuelb on October 16, 2012, 09:09:20 AM
if u have unlimited international calling, and get a service to fwd us calls to ur cell, reasons 1 & 2 are taken care of. Reason 3 ::), more than 25% of homes are cell phone only. You sound old fashined

I assume cell phones have more radiation than home cordless phones.

the Israeli T.Z. is a generic number so your passport can works sometimes like anyother random number

most 9 digit numbers should work

Sorry, it is not random. It has a checksum, there is a simple formula to check if it can be real, ruling out 90% of random numbers.

Is that a decent phone (never heard of it)?  My son would like good internet access.

 :o Good, make sure your son has "good" internet access.

she said ... so kol hakavode

More likely she said Kol Hakavod!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on October 16, 2012, 09:09:49 AM
3) There is something to be said for the "cultural difference" between a cellphone (a more intimate, personal device, which usually lives on the owner's belt or in his/her pocket) and a house phone (a central appliance that is always available to everyone in the household, including children).

there are devices that allow you to connect your cellphone via bluetooth to your home phones. My cordless phone set has this option although I haven't actually set it up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on October 16, 2012, 09:24:53 AM
I assume cell phones have more radiation than home cordless phones.
Then its a good thing ill already be dead from global warming
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmuelb on October 16, 2012, 09:35:42 AM
Then its a good thing ill already be dead from global warming
Ha Ha but not funny. Global warming is now called global cooling, they realized from the emails that it was not the data they needed. I spoke to a major brain surgeon from the US and he gave me a drasha about the danger of cell phone usage.

This is no chiddush, studies around the world have been done with many pointing to serious hazards. When a friend is dying Chas v'Shalom, bar minan, from something likely caused by cell phone radiation, a person looks at it differently.

The cell manufacturers have been putting in warning brochures for around 10 years already. The instruction say to hold cell an inch/couple centimeters away from head. The doctor's main point was that even if you are not convinced that it is for sure dangerous, why be a Guinea Pig and risk finding out in 15 years.

Btw, you can get Orange Kosher unlimited plan for around 63 shekel/month, and to include unlimted calls to anywhere in the world (basically, landlines and to USA and CA cell) for an extra 15 shekel, 78 shekel total.

Btw, if anyone here has a Nokia Slide 2680 and the buttons below the screen stopped working, you can change a piece inside the phone and it works like new. Original part costs like 40 shek, generic 20. The guy will do it for you for another like 50-80 shekel.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 16, 2012, 10:59:52 AM
Why not just get one of those unlimited cellphone deals, and tether from your phone?
Speed?

the real reason why i am not ony cellphones, is bec i have google voice and as much as i am a fan of my unlimited, it still doesnt give me gr8 serive with GV for somereason its very spoty and even more so when i use magic jack app. in addition, cell phones die so quickly, its insane - but thtas not a real reason, another main reason is bec my wife works (and she had a kosher phone - 39 shekel) and she needs quick reliable internet for her job (which is strickly internet based)   

but otherwise...lol.. ur right, esp an old phone i had last zman it was jailbroken and included with that cydia gives u a program called mywi which is a hotspot off my phone, which was amazing!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 16, 2012, 11:55:52 AM
Btw, you can get Orange Kosher unlimited plan for around 63 shekel/month, and to include unlimted calls to anywhere in the world (basically, landlines and to USA and CA cell) for an extra 15 shekel, 78 shekel total.
Cellcom has that for 70 shekel, including to international mobiles (not only Usa and ca)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 16, 2012, 03:46:25 PM
On oranges website it shows the deal of 270 nis for 3 phones...it says 270 nis per month for a year...does that mean i cant stop it before a year?

I thought Israel doesn't have/is not allowed to require any phone contracts anymore...?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 16, 2012, 04:16:29 PM
On oranges website it shows the deal of 270 nis for 3 phones...it says 270 nis per month for a year...does that mean i cant stop it before a year?

I thought Israel doesn't have/is not allowed to require any phone contracts anymore...?
It means that its a reduced price only for the first year, all their new plans are like that.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shmuelb on October 16, 2012, 04:46:14 PM
On oranges website it shows the deal of 270 nis for 3 phones...it says 270 nis per month for a year...does that mean i cant stop it before a year?

I thought Israel doesn't have/is not allowed to require any phone contracts anymore...?

What they do, as was mentioned here, is give you a phone or modem with a charge every month for 36 months which they give you back every month, as long as you stay with them ...

The prices they charge for (some of) their cell phones are ridiculous, like $300 for a $60 phone. If you keep with the program for 3 years, you got the phone for free, but if you cancelled after a month, or a year, you lose out. So officially there is no commitment but not in reality, unless you do not buy hardware from them.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 16, 2012, 05:08:49 PM
It means that its a reduced price only for the first year, all their new plans are like that.

got it..thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 17, 2012, 01:01:16 PM
Not sure if this belongs in this thread but the orange store in Geula will be closed down coming this friday for anyone who had plans on going next week...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 17, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
Not sure if this belongs in this thread but the orange store in Geula will be closed down coming this friday for anyone who had plans on going next week...
Do you know if they're relocating?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 17, 2012, 06:06:42 PM
Do you know if they're relocating?

Theyre not.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 17, 2012, 08:41:18 PM
Not sure if this belongs in this thread but the orange store in Geula will be closed down coming this friday for anyone who had plans on going next week...

Why, what happened?!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 17, 2012, 09:55:27 PM
Why, what happened?!
One opened up aeound the corner. Lol ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 17, 2012, 11:30:25 PM
I meant that you can call the main number of malcha and get the number for the Hot store.
Sorry I couldn't explain it then, I was very busy Friday.
All worked out, BH!  I had someone (in E"Y) go to HOT at Malcha, at first they tried claiming that you put you're ID number (passport, drivers license etc.), but luckily after a few minutes of arguing (me being on the phone), they "somehow" generated a TZ! :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 18, 2012, 04:21:16 AM
One opened up aeound the corner. Lol ;D

I really need to get out more. Where?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 18, 2012, 04:23:13 AM
So, to summarize... I'm thinking maybe HOT Mobile is the way to go.

1) Is there any reason NOT to, i.e. any reason to stick with a legacy carrier? Is HOT's data speed/quality any worse?

2) Does HOT let you pick your own phone number?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 18, 2012, 05:43:40 AM
Not sure if this belongs in this thread but the orange store in Geula will be closed down coming this friday for anyone who had plans on going next week...
do you mean the main one on Amus or the agent on Malchei yisrael?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 18, 2012, 05:47:31 AM
So, to summarize... I'm thinking maybe HOT Mobile is the way to go.

1) Is there any reason NOT to, i.e. any reason to stick with a legacy carrier? Is HOT's data speed/quality any worse?

2) Does HOT let you pick your own phone number?
why HOT over golan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 18, 2012, 06:22:42 AM
why HOT over golan?

 1) It's cheaper.

2) They seem to be having less issues (Golan has issues with voicemail not always working, phone not always "ringing", etc.)

3) They seem to be making slightly less problems for foreigners.

4) They have a 10 agorot plan, which I can use to add additional lines that won't be used as often.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 18, 2012, 07:23:54 AM
I really need to get out more. Where?

I think he was kidding...I dont think theres one around corner
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 18, 2012, 07:26:46 AM
do you mean the main one on Amus or the agent on Malchei yisrael?

Amus
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 18, 2012, 07:39:19 AM
why HOT over golan?
Why HOT over orange?

How much is HOT?

Orange allows you to choose a number
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 18, 2012, 08:42:25 AM
I think he was kidding...I dont think theres one around corner
there actually was one around the corner  by kikar shabb next to the linen store and another one on amus an another if im not misteken near r' gamliel house (forgot the str name).  But to be honest waa a joke bec there are thoisand of oramge atores
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 18, 2012, 08:50:17 AM
there actually was one around the corner  by kikar shabb next to the linen store
that one closed down a while ago...no?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 18, 2012, 09:08:11 AM
1) It's cheaper.

2) They seem to be having less issues (Golan has issues with voicemail not always working, phone not always "ringing", etc.)

3) They seem to be making slightly less problems for foreigners.

4) They have a 10 agorot plan, which I can use to add additional lines that won't be used as often.
1) For unlimited international calling they are both 99.
2) I and many friends have golan never had problems.
3) What kind of problems? I signed up online with bituach leumi no. And it works fine.
4) Golan have a 10 shek monthly (includes 60 free min)
5) Golan have much better customer service than Hot.
A BIG MINUS with hot, you can only use sim in 3G phones not dumbphones etc, vs. Golan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 18, 2012, 09:09:40 AM
Why HOT over orange?

How much is HOT?

Orange allows you to choose a number
Orange is 135 vs. 99. (incl. International calls)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 18, 2012, 01:33:28 PM
Not sure if this belongs in this thread but the orange store in Geula will be closed down coming this friday for anyone who had plans on going next week...
Wrong info here. The inside orange cs is staying as usual, the landaus sales is just changing owners. No major changes nobody is going anywhere. I am here now.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yghut on October 18, 2012, 02:40:24 PM
There is a "new" orange branch next to the old one on Amus in the electronic store Rafaeli. They are offering 63/78 shek israel/intnl unlmtd kosher plans. Officially the deal is only for customers either porting numbers from other carriers or if you buy a new cell phone. Unofficially for forty shek the guy will sell you a cellcom number to port. The kosher sim will work in any unlocked phone.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 18, 2012, 06:35:32 PM
The advantage of HOT over Golan is HOT at Malcha will sell you the SIM even without teudat zehut and with a non-Israeli credit card.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 18, 2012, 06:40:08 PM
I am here now.

DO? :P
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: hocker on October 24, 2012, 08:22:37 PM
MVNO YouPhone offers unlimited plan for NIS 79

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000792644&fid=1725
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on October 24, 2012, 08:25:16 PM
MVNO YouPhone offers unlimited plan for NIS 79

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000792644&fid=1725

Only 1GB
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2012, 08:44:45 PM
MVNO YouPhone offers unlimited plan for NIS 79

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000792644&fid=1725
Insane.
It this the cheapest in the world?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on October 24, 2012, 08:50:45 PM
Insane.
It this the cheapest in the world?

no , ukraine you have for $20
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 25, 2012, 05:18:34 AM
I signed up yesterday for Cellcom's Total plan which gives me 3 mobiles with unlimited Internet, calls, text and international calls to mobiles and landlines. On top of that I get a home line with internet (10mb).
All that for 349 NIS!  8)
Can anyone beat that?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: DovDov on October 25, 2012, 07:24:19 AM
What is a recommended plan for someone going to Israel for a few days with an unlocked iphone?

Need minutes and a reasonable amount of data.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on October 25, 2012, 07:30:16 AM
I signed up yesterday for Cellcom's Total plan which gives me 3 mobiles with unlimited Internet, calls, text and international calls to mobiles and landlines. On top of that I get a home line with internet (10mb).
All that for 349 NIS!  8)
Can anyone beat that?
Is that a new plan?

Thats pretty good...if your looking for a home line with internet...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 25, 2012, 08:10:05 AM
I signed up yesterday for Cellcom's Total plan which gives me 3 mobiles with unlimited Internet, calls, text and international calls to mobiles and landlines. On top of that I get a home line with internet (10mb).
All that for 349 NIS!  8)
Can anyone beat that?

Like everyone else, I got tired of paying Cellcom through my nose. So I decided to call them up and threaten to switch to Golan or Orange, and see if they offer me a retention deal. Here is what they offered me:

Price: 299 NIS/month

2 lines (SIM only, no phone)
-Unlimited talk
-Unlimited text
-1 GB of high speed Internet; throttled after that
-200 minutes/month calls to USA

1 tablet with SIM
Choice of:
- iPad 3 16 GB
- Galaxy Tab 10.1
- Xoom 2
- ASUS Transformer TF101G
1 GB of internet at high speed; throttled after that

Home Internet service
Netvision Internet subscription (up to 10 Mbps) for home Internet, included in the cell package
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 25, 2012, 08:12:50 AM
Is that a new plan?

Thats pretty good...if your looking for a home line with internet...

They have it a few months already.
Yep, for me it's the best I could get. I used to pay orange 300-400 NIS a month just for mobile and Bezeq about 250 a month for home Internet and international calls.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on October 25, 2012, 08:25:51 AM
I used to pay orange 300-400 NIS a month just for mobile and Bezeq about 250 a month for home Internet and international calls.
you must of done something very wrong...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on October 25, 2012, 08:33:55 AM
I signed up yesterday for Cellcom's Total plan which gives me 3 mobiles with unlimited Internet, calls, text and international calls to mobiles and landlines. On top of that I get a home line with internet (10mb).
All that for 349 NIS!  8)
Can anyone beat that?

How much are you paying for your internet ifrastructure (HOT/Bezeq)?
I use Golan's unlimited plans for my phones 3x99 = 297
I have 12mb internet with Bezeq Benleumi (ISP) - 30 and HOT (infrastructure) - 70 = 100
I don't bother with a landline because I have unlimited calling on my cellphone and don't see the point, although I do have an American line with Google Voice + Obi.
Total monthly bill = 397
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 25, 2012, 09:46:00 AM
im paying 120shek for 10mb net thru bezek, and 100 shek for golan.... wifes phone is 40 shek a month
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 25, 2012, 01:17:49 PM
you must of done something very wrong...

Unfortunately  :(

im paying 120shek for 10mb net thru bezek, and 100 shek for golan.... wifes phone is 40 shek a month

You're lucky with such a cheap wife, lol  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 25, 2012, 01:21:57 PM

Unfortunately  :(

You're lucky with such a cheap wife, lol  ;)

bh! she likes having a kosher phone :-) plus she has all she needs with the comp and so on ::-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: hocker on October 25, 2012, 01:25:12 PM
I pay for 5MB 70 Shek total. Bezeq/TripleC
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cashman on October 25, 2012, 02:15:27 PM
Verizon just unlocked my  iPhone 4s. They told me it will now work in Israel on any sim card. Can anyone confirm
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on October 25, 2012, 02:22:35 PM
Confirm
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on October 25, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
Confirm

+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on October 25, 2012, 02:49:03 PM
Confirmed
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 25, 2012, 03:56:12 PM
Anybody with experience using HOT with an American iphone 5 from Verizon? Any problem swapping out Sims?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Cashman on October 25, 2012, 09:15:52 PM
Confirm
Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on October 25, 2012, 11:20:25 PM
Yup
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on November 04, 2012, 06:45:00 AM
Wrong info here. The inside orange cs is staying as usual, the landaus sales is just changing owners. No major changes nobody is going anywhere. I am here now.

Well, I was there just before and they're sending everyone to the branch in Givat Shaul on Beth Hadefus. They basically can't help you there anymore besides if you are a new customer.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on November 04, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
Has anyone used Israel Unlimited? They're constantly posting on the DansDeals facebook page and their current deal seems phenomenal for a short term rental. $40/week for an iphone with unlimited everything. https://www.facebook.com/IsraelUnlimited. Anyone know if they are reputable?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 04, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
I am going to Israel for 2 weeks. I want 2 phones with unlimited everything including calling America and bb service what's the cheapeast but also not such a hassle Im willing on spending somewhere between 75$ and 100$ for both phones. I have tmobile so could unlock them. Also I think I would rather get them in the. Us before I go.  Any advice

BUMP
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 04, 2012, 01:57:43 PM

Well, I was there just before and they're sending everyone to the branch in Givat Shaul on Beth Hadefus. They basically can't help you there anymore besides if you are a new customer.
Indeed, the inner customer services has closed down unfortunately. And the outer sales has changed ownership. There is also an agent two stores down in Rafaeli.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 04, 2012, 02:05:37 PM
Not sure if this belongs in this thread but the orange store in Geula will be closed down coming this friday for anyone who had plans on going next week...

Wrong info here. The inside orange cs is staying as usual, the landaus sales is just changing owners. No major changes nobody is going anywhere. I am here now.

Well, I was there just before and they're sending everyone to the branch in Givat Shaul on Beth Hadefus. They basically can't help you there anymore besides if you are a new customer.

Indeed, the inner customer services has closed down unfortunately. And the outer sales has changed ownership. There is also an agent two stores down in Rafaeli.

I knew I wasn't making things up  :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on November 04, 2012, 02:07:26 PM
Indeed, the inner customer services has closed down unfortunately. And the outer sales has changed ownership. There is also an agent two stores down in Rafaeli.
Also for services or only for sales?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 04, 2012, 02:27:17 PM

I knew I wasn't making things up  :)
I wonder why their own staff would...
Also for services or only for sales?
sales.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 04, 2012, 02:32:18 PM
I wonder why their own staff would...

Sorry but a bit confused...you saying that when you went in last time their staff was making things up?  Or when I  went in?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 04, 2012, 02:40:25 PM
Sorry but a bit confused...you saying that when you went in last time their staff was making things up?  Or when I  went in?
when I went in, they told me they not changing nothing, just the outside sales ownership...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 04, 2012, 02:51:40 PM
when I went in, they told me they not changing nothing, just the outside sales ownership...

The rep that told me they were closing was so happy...it was like she got a raise...was weird.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 04, 2012, 03:03:58 PM
The rep that told me they were closing was so happy...it was like she got a raise...was weird.
I had a couple friends that worked there, and were sent away a few months ago, they were so happy, they got a huge compensation. (all these closures be firings, are due to golan and hot...)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on November 06, 2012, 12:11:41 PM
For all wanting to know, You can buy a Cellcom Sim (160₪ Per Month) with a US Passport and US CC.


I have bought 3 Golan Sims on my friends ID an CC (He is an Israeli).

A few questions if anyone can help me out,

1) Is it possible to change a sim from the 99₪ plan to the 9₪ back and forth?

2) As the term is "Prepaid" can I use it one month yes and one month no? if so, how often do I need to use it, it shouldn't expire.

And does anyone have the APN/MMS Settings? (Android/iOS).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 06, 2012, 12:23:59 PM
For all wanting to know, You can buy a Cellcom Sim (160₪ Per Month) with a US Passport and US CC.


I have bought 3 Golan Sims on my friends ID an CC (He is an Israeli).

A few questions if anyone can help me out,

1) Is it possible to change a sim from the 99₪ plan to the 9₪ back and forth?

2) As the term is "Prepaid" can I use it one month yes and one month no? if so, how often do I need to use it, it shouldn't expire.

And does anyone have the APN/MMS Settings? (Android/iOS).
you can change plans however many times you want, it will take effect on the 25th of the month, to whatever it is than.
If you dont use it, put it to the minimum 9 shekel a month. I believe it wont expire before twelve months.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: JEWDA on November 06, 2012, 12:26:26 PM
I am hopefully going to E'Y soon and I'm just wondering whats the best deal for a cell phone for 10 days? Or maybe even 2 cell phones. I would also need Data. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 06, 2012, 12:35:21 PM
For all wanting to know, You can buy a Cellcom Sim (160₪ Per Month) with a US Passport and US CC.


I have bought 3 Golan Sims on my friends ID an CC (He is an Israeli).

A few questions if anyone can help me out,

1) Is it possible to change a sim from the 99₪ plan to the 9₪ back and forth?

2) As the term is "Prepaid" can I use it one month yes and one month no? if so, how often do I need to use it, it shouldn't expire.

And does anyone have the APN/MMS Settings? (Android/iOS).
Go in golans website and look under technical support and they will show u how to add apn and mms settings
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on November 06, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
you can change plans however many times you want, it will take effect on the 25th of the month, to whatever it is than.
If you dont use it, put it to the minimum 9 shekel a month. I believe it wont expire before twelve months.


I only need it for 1 month as of now. So is it possible to use it now 1 month, and then put it away for a few months time?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on November 06, 2012, 01:01:43 PM

I only need it for 1 month as of now. So is it possible to use it now 1 month, and then put it away for a few months time?

If you mean without paying the 9 shekel then probably not.
If you do keep on paying the 9 shekel a month then it stays active as long as you pay.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on November 06, 2012, 01:13:35 PM

If you mean without paying the 9 shekel then probably not.
If you do keep on paying the 9 shekel a month then it stays active as long as you pay.

Can someone confirm? I'll be using it once every year or so, I don't want to lose my numbers/sim cards
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on November 07, 2012, 04:39:35 PM
I am hopefully going to E'Y soon and I'm just wondering whats the best deal for a cell phone for 10 days? Or maybe even 2 cell phones. I would also need Data. Any help would be appreciated.
Has anyone used Israel Unlimited? They're constantly posting on the DansDeals facebook page and their current deal seems phenomenal for a short term rental. $40/week for an iphone with unlimited everything. https://www.facebook.com/IsraelUnlimited. Anyone know if they are reputable?
Never got an answer so don't know about their reputability, but the deal seems sick to me.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on November 08, 2012, 08:38:37 PM
I am signing up for  Golan online. I am all the way through, getting stuck at the credit card point since I only have American credit cards. Any ideas? Is there a way to get through with an American card?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 09, 2012, 12:55:40 AM
I am signing up for  Golan online. I am all the way through, getting stuck at the credit card point since I only have American credit cards. Any ideas? Is there a way to get through with an American card?
They don't accept them anymore. Try getting a card from an Israeli bank
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on November 09, 2012, 01:10:29 AM
I am signing up for  Golan online. I am all the way through, getting stuck at the credit card point since I only have American credit cards. Any ideas? Is there a way to get through with an American card?

Don't know if it was a fluke or because I signed up a few months ago with a US CC, but I had to change my CC and I had no problem switching to a different US CC.

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 09, 2012, 01:18:38 AM
Don't know if it was a fluke or because I signed up a few months ago with a US CC, but I had to change my CC and I had no problem switching to a different US CC.
A few months they allowed American ccs
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on November 09, 2012, 01:50:43 AM
A few months they allowed American ccs

I had to change my credit card yesterday because my original card was cancelled, and there was no problem putting in a new US CC.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 09, 2012, 02:01:06 AM
I had to change my credit card yesterday because my original card was cancelled, and there was no problem putting in a new US CC.
Interesting...maybe once you're in with an American cc you can switch it to a different American cc
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 09, 2012, 02:41:49 AM
I am hopefully going to E'Y soon and I'm just wondering whats the best deal for a cell phone for 10 days? Or maybe even 2 cell phones. I would also need Data. Any help would be appreciated.
IMHO and FME, go with HOT Mobile's 99 Shekel a month (50 for half/mo.) and a one-time 39 Shek charge for the Sim.
You'll get unlimited Talk to Israel (both Cell and Landline) and 31 Intntl countries (only landline) incl. USA (obviously landline AND cell), unlimited sms and data.

Go to HOT at Malcha Mall in Jerusalem (its on the 2nd floor, and its a stand/booth -not a store -I got lost) and tell them you don't have a Teudat Zehut, they'll prob. ask you for either a license or passport and will sign you up no problem.  Before you leave, make sure to get your "teudat zehut" number, don't believe them if they tell you that you don't need or have one, they're Israeli  liars, period.  You'll need your TZ to cancel/change the plan before you go back to the USA.

Shortly before you go back, go to any Hot! and change your plan to the 10 agurot plan (no monthly fee, just 10 agurot per min within Israel, no international calls 10 agu. p/sms, 10 agu. per/MB of data), so you'll keep your sim and number till the next time you return!

If you want to have internet/intnl calls till the second you leave, just keep in mind that their customer service line that is accessible from outside IL is an 05 number =mobile + crazy hold times =cost you a fortune, your choice.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 09, 2012, 02:43:29 AM
Anyone know what the deal with HOT mobile is?
They're currently offering "עוברים היום ולא משלמים עד סוף השנה" on their 89/99 plans.

Whats the fine print?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on November 09, 2012, 06:21:09 AM
Anyone know what the deal with HOT mobile is?
They're currently offering "עוברים היום ולא משלמים עד סוף השנה" on their 89/99 plans.

Whats the fine print?
https://www.hotmobile.co.il/Documents/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A4%D7%98%D7%99/%D7%A0%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%97%20%D7%9E%D7%91%D7%A6%D7%A2%20%D7%9C%D7%90%20%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9D%20%D7%A2%D7%93%20%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%A3%20%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%94.pdf
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 09, 2012, 08:44:30 AM
https://www.hotmobile.co.il/Documents/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A4%D7%98%D7%99/%D7%A0%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%97%20%D7%9E%D7%91%D7%A6%D7%A2%20%D7%9C%D7%90%20%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%9D%20%D7%A2%D7%93%20%D7%A1%D7%95%D7%A3%20%D7%94%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%94.pdf
Anyone translate?  Synopsis?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 06:42:31 PM
Any idea how to unlock my Sprint iPhone 5 for use in Israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Any idea how to unlock my Sprint iPhone 5 for use in Israel?

Paging Cbs...

Caveat emptor: I don't know if Israeli carriers have the nano SIMs yet.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 06:47:04 PM
My iphone 5 has a slot for a nano sim somewhere?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 10, 2012, 06:56:06 PM
Paging Cbs...

Caveat emptor: I don't know if Israeli carriers have the nano SIMs yet.
I've been told but not confirmed that orange does.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 07:21:44 PM
My iphone 5 has a slot for a nano sim somewhere?

How else do you plan on using it here?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 07:51:33 PM
How else do you plan on using it here?

Honestly, I have no idea.

That's why I'm asking :P

Where's the slot?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 08:04:00 PM
Where's the slot?

http://bit.ly/SXrQL7
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 08:13:01 PM
I deserved that. I just thought Sprint phones didn't even have a slot, nice.

So I'd need a nano sim, which only orange has?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 10, 2012, 08:25:49 PM
Someone just told me that orange has and there free with there plan as opposed to golan which u have to pay 40₪ to get in addition
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on November 10, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
u can cut down the sim on your own with a cutter or a scissor. as for unlocking, just tell sprint that you will be traveling and they should do it for you. you connect to itunes after they unlock it and voila...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
u can cut down the sim on your own with a cutter or a scissor. as for unlocking, just tell sprint that you will be traveling and they should do it for you. you connect to itunes after they unlock it and voila...

Ah, this seems like it's what I needed to know.

Just call sprint, tell them I'm traveling and they'll do it for free? Don't need to sign up for a sprint international plan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on November 10, 2012, 08:45:55 PM
Ah, this seems like it's what I needed to know.

Just call sprint, tell them I'm traveling and they'll do it for free? Don't need to sign up for a sprint international plan?
yes its free but the account has to be in good standing...you dont need the intl plan since you are using the sim in the phone which basically shuts down the sprint service.
also cellcom has the nano sims
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 09:42:19 PM
Ah, this seems like it's what I needed to know.

Just call sprint, tell them I'm traveling and they'll do it for free? Don't need to sign up for a sprint international plan?

Many carriers require your account to be open for X amount of days first. But after that, you tell them you're traveling and want to use a local SIM in that country, and they should unlock it for you.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 09:44:12 PM
I deserved that.

:P

I just thought Sprint phones didn't even have a slot, nice.

This is 2012 (soon to be 2013). Wake up and smell the silicon - even the Verizon ones have 'em. :o
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 09:44:28 PM
Excellent, thanks for everyone's help.

Anyone know how sprint's international plan in israel is (i guess vs having a local sim)?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 09:51:13 PM
Excellent, thanks for everyone's help.

Anyone know how sprint's international plan in israel is (i guess vs having a local sim)?

IIRC data is not too bad, but you'll get raped by voice charges.

Update: you might wanna submit your unlock request ASAP:
I'll be traveling to Israel shortly for a 10-day trip. I am in the process of unlocking my iPhone 4S with Verizon which told me they have sent the unlock request to Apple and all I need to do is pop in the Israeli SIM card, finish the process using iTunes and I will be good to go.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:09:32 PM
I'd mostly want it for data anyway.

I guess I can use sprint for international data, and then pop the sim in if i need to make a call.

Thanks for the heads up, i'll put the request in now.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 11, 2012, 01:45:36 AM
Someone just told me that orange has and there free with there plan as opposed to golan which u have to pay 40₪ to get in addition
Unless the 5 SIM card is different than all the other ones its not correct. I have orange and each sim cost a one time fee of 80  or 90 nis...with the plan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on November 11, 2012, 03:20:52 AM
Unless the 5 SIM card is different than all the other ones its not correct. I have orange and each sim cost a one time fee of 80  or 90 nis...with the plan

It's smaller... LOL

I paid Cellcom 99 per sim. Pure rip off!!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on November 11, 2012, 03:29:44 AM
If I activate my Golan Sim on the 18, will I be charged for a full month? (They go monthly on the 24th). Will they do it on a one time basis?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 11, 2012, 03:42:16 AM
It's smaller... LOL

Umm..no kidding its smaller..that's not why I meant by different.   
I meant orange charges for every SIM card a one time fee. Maybe that would change for the different sized iPhone 5 SIM card...but I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 13, 2012, 01:16:41 PM
So... does anyone rent sims for iphone 5 yet?

It looks like they only are selling them (unless I'm misunderstanding).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on November 13, 2012, 01:44:51 PM
I successfully ordered a 99 shekel plan from HOT online, and the confirm says they will contact me to finish the order. I have waited a few days and emailed them. No response. How do I reach them other than in person?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on November 13, 2012, 05:12:19 PM
I successfully ordered a 99 shekel plan from HOT online, and the confirm says they will contact me to finish the order. I have waited a few days and emailed them. No response. How do I reach them other than in person?
Y not in person??   star 6053 from any Israeli phone or 053-5003000
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on November 13, 2012, 07:04:32 PM
So... does anyone rent sims for iphone 5 yet?

It looks like they only are selling them (unless I'm misunderstanding).
Pelephone has prepaid ( very expensive )
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 13, 2012, 07:11:27 PM
Pelephone has prepaid ( very expensive )

Know prices?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 13, 2012, 07:14:10 PM
Know prices?

+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on November 13, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
+1

The store off Ben Yehuda said :
100 temp Number and Nano Sim
149 For a Number and Nano Sim
1 shekel per minute
150 data per month
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 13, 2012, 07:52:59 PM
The store off Ben Yehuda said :
100 temp Number and Nano Sim
149 For a Number and Nano Sim
1 shekel per minute
150 data per month

Wow, that does seem expensive.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on November 13, 2012, 07:54:36 PM
Wow, that does seem expensive.

Thanks.

Yup it is .... It's worth it to sign up through orange
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: AJK on November 13, 2012, 07:55:20 PM
Yup it is .... It's worth it to sign up through orange

How much cheaper?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on November 23, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
Has anyone had any luck signing up for Golan recently with an American CC?
 
 I even tried adding a line to an existing plan I already have and it's asking for a CC and won't go through.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 24, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
Has anyone had any luck signing up for Golan recently with an American CC?
 
 I even tried adding a line to an existing plan I already have and it's asking for a CC and won't go through.
Had the same issue.  I got a nano sim and i couldn't buy it with my US cc. Had to give my israeli one though i don't think i had that much credit lol
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on November 25, 2012, 12:45:51 AM
Going to Israel in a few weeks for 2 weeks can someone recommend to me what the best option to do for data and minutes? (Verizon Iphone 4s)

I understand that I can have verizon unlock the phone, then what? Where can I get an Israeli sim card for a good price. It cant be an actual card it would have to be thru Itunes or wifi? and is it possible to still do while in the states? I was looking for an unlimited data plan so I can use the gps map so I dont have to buy a garmin!

Thank You
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on November 25, 2012, 01:08:03 AM
Going to Israel in a few weeks for 2 weeks can someone recommend to me what the best option to do for data and minutes? (Verizon Iphone 4s)

I understand that I can have verizon unlock the phone, then what? Where can I get an Israeli sim card for a good price. It cant be an actual card it would have to be thru Itunes or wifi? and is it possible to still do while in the states? I was looking for an unlimited data plan so I can use the gps map so I dont have to buy a garmin!

Thank You

I noticed Hot charges 99 unlimited w/Israeli cc (https://www.hotmobile.co.il/HOTmobile_en/Pages/Programs-and-sales.aspx)assuming that I have access to an Israeli card, would this be a downloadable sim or they would mail me an actual card? (I dont think Verizon has an actual sim) and can the plan be changed online to the 10 agrut plan when I leave?
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on November 25, 2012, 02:31:53 AM
They use an American card, no problem, but you need a Teudat Zehut, unless you go up Malcha booth. There is s physical sim, depending on the phone you have.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on November 25, 2012, 02:48:19 AM
I noticed Hot charges 99 unlimited w/Israeli cc (https://www.hotmobile.co.il/HOTmobile_en/Pages/Programs-and-sales.aspx)assuming that I have access to an Israeli card, would this be a downloadable sim or they would mail me an actual card? (I dont think Verizon has an actual sim) and can the plan be changed online to the 10 agrut plan when I leave?

AFAIK a sim card is always a physical card and can't be downloaded...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 25, 2012, 02:55:44 AM
AFAIK a sim card is always a physical card and can't be downloaded...
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 25, 2012, 05:21:17 AM
AFAIK a sim card is always a physical card and can't be downloaded...

+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: wierdal832 on November 25, 2012, 09:19:13 AM
Not sure if anyone posted it yet, but I just used a company called Israel unlimited. They r located in monsey. They give u an iPhone 4 with unlimited everything. That means Internet calling and texting including to the u s. $40 a week. That's pretty hard to beat
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on November 25, 2012, 09:49:07 AM
Going to Israel in a few weeks for 2 weeks can someone recommend to me what the best option to do for data and minutes? (Verizon Iphone 4s)

I understand that I can have verizon unlock the phone, then what? Where can I get an Israeli sim card for a good price. It cant be an actual card it would have to be thru Itunes or wifi? and is it possible to still do while in the states? I was looking for an unlimited data plan so I can use the gps map so I dont have to buy a garmin!

Thank You

http://www.ilunlimitedcell.com/


Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 09:54:16 AM

http://www.ilunlimitedcell.com/

This sounds to good to be true. 2 weeks unlimited everything $40. Anyone with experience?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: wierdal832 on November 25, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
This sounds to good to be true. 2 weeks unlimited everything $40. Anyone with experience?

It's 40 a week. I just used them
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 10:13:32 AM
It's 40 a week. I just used them

They advertise 30 for 1 week and 40 for 2.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on November 25, 2012, 11:12:32 AM
They advertise 30 for 1 week and 40 for 2.

I don't know 30 or 40 but I know these guys well. Honest yidden . I have referred ppl to them in the past, all happy with the service
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on November 25, 2012, 11:17:48 AM
They advertise 30 for 1 week and 40 for 2.
You're referring to 2 different companies.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 11:58:38 AM
You're referring to 2 different companies.

whose this
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on November 25, 2012, 12:02:45 PM
Guess it's time to get an Israeli CC. Golan won't let me add a line without it even though my original line still gets charged to my American CC.
#gottaloveisrael
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on November 25, 2012, 12:21:43 PM
whose this
No idea, but that company is only giving you a SIM for $30/wk and $40/2 wks. This company
a company called Israel unlimited. They r located in monsey. They give u an iPhone 4 with unlimited everything. That means Internet calling and texting including to the u s. $40 a week. That's pretty hard to beat
gives you an iPhone and a SIM for $40/wk.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on November 25, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
whose this
That is the company I recommended
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 25, 2012, 12:41:00 PM
Guess it's time to get an Israeli CC. Golan won't let me add a line without it even though my original line still gets charged to my American CC.
#gottaloveisrael

Pm me ill do it
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on November 25, 2012, 01:04:41 PM
I don't know 30 or 40 but I know these guys well. Honest yidden . I have referred ppl to them in the past, all happy with the service
I am sure they are honest and so forth, but I will never purchase or use something from a website that doesnt have an address or phone number on their contacs page. If something goes wrong how do you reach them????? 

A certain company (will leave nameless) I rented in Jerusalem and their shtick is that they claim you never mailed them back the device and they charge you (with thier pre paid envelope). THis has happened to me anda few friensds I know off. I disputed the credic card and won because the CC said they have allot of such complaints. You have to be careful from where you rent, as allot of them do shtick to trick you.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 25, 2012, 01:18:00 PM
I don't know 30 or 40 but I know these guys well. Honest yidden . I have referred ppl to them in the past, all happy with the service
well it looks like some people do want to know 30 or 40. What their advertising or not?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on November 25, 2012, 01:28:20 PM
well it looks like some people do want to know 30 or 40. What their advertising or not?
Once again: there are 2 different companies being discussed here.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 01:36:30 PM
Once again: there are 2 different companies being discussed here.

Do you want to clarify?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on November 25, 2012, 01:41:57 PM
http://www.ilunlimitedcell.com/ give you just a SIM card with an unlimited plan. They charge you $30/week, $40/2 weeks. There is NO PHONE included.

Unlimited Israel is the company from Monsey referenced earlier. They give you an iPhone with an unlimited SIM card, and charge $40/week. Each additional day (not a full week) costs $8.A SIM card alone costs $30 per week, and they do not have a 2 week deal.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 01:43:30 PM
http://www.ilunlimitedcell.com/ give you just a SIM card with an unlimited plan. They charge you $30/week, $40/2 weeks. There is NO PHONE included.

Anyone rented from them?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 25, 2012, 01:49:24 PM
For Sim only there are people in Israel renting for $3 a day unlimited everything and international. No need to pay $30+
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 01:53:40 PM
For Sim only there are people in Israel renting for $3 a day unlimited everything and international. No need to pay $30+

Link?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on November 25, 2012, 02:29:31 PM
Anyone rented from them?

Anyone know if BB works with this
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on November 25, 2012, 04:44:06 PM
HOT Golan offer!
For new customers only (I am not sure if need to bring number from other network) 6 months half price unlimited everything just 49 shekel instead of 99!
(might not work for tourists and guests, it says something in the fine print about staying for six months - cant check it out now exactly, sorry)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 25, 2012, 04:47:16 PM
HOT Golan offer!
For new customers only (I am not sure if need to bring number from other network) 6 months half price unlimited everything just 49 shekel instead of 99!
(might not work for tourists and guests, it says something in the fine print about staying for six months - cant check it out now exactly, sorry)

https://www.golantelecom.co.il/web/news1.php
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: avielan on November 25, 2012, 04:50:03 PM
HOT Golan offer!
For new customers only (I am not sure if need to bring number from other network) 6 months half price unlimited everything just 49 shekel instead of 99!
(might not work for tourists and guests, it says something in the fine print about staying for six months - cant check it out now exactly, sorry)

Fine print says that you have to port an existing number to Golan which has never been associated with Golan before, and you have to stay for 6 months.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on November 26, 2012, 11:54:11 AM
If I get an Israeli sim card with unlimited Data should I use it as a gps or better off buying a gps?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 26, 2012, 11:58:45 AM
If I get an Israeli sim card with unlimited Data should I use it as a gps or better off buying a gps?

use waze its gr8 gps
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Shmelly on November 26, 2012, 12:21:11 PM
use waze its gr8 gps
+1, Waze is accurate 97% of the time in Israel. For the 3% when it can't find what you're looking for you can use Google Maps, but that does not provide turn by turn navigation.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: netzih on November 26, 2012, 02:32:56 PM
Is there any way I can get the golan deal without a teudat zehut or israeli credit card?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 26, 2012, 02:39:59 PM
Is there any way I can get the golan deal without a teudat zehut or israeli credit card?

nope
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: netzih on November 26, 2012, 02:40:52 PM
Can I use a us passport number?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 26, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Can I use a us passport number?

IIRC no...and anyways you'll need an israeli cc
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 26, 2012, 02:46:13 PM
Can I use a us passport number?
muchedet number works
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly on November 26, 2012, 02:59:57 PM
Which unlimited plan is available to get before i leave brooklyn or as soon as i get to tlv without leaving the airport ?
will be in israel for 11 days
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: netzih on November 26, 2012, 03:08:49 PM
Sorry for my ignorance but what is meuchedet number?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on November 26, 2012, 03:12:40 PM
Sorry for my ignorance but what is meuchedet number?

The number that it says on your meuchedet card. (If your eligible to get one) :P
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 26, 2012, 03:15:22 PM
The number that it says on your meuchedet card. (If your eligible to get one) :P
And Meuchedet is a health insurance
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 26, 2012, 03:23:07 PM
And Meuchedet is a health insurance
actually the number is ur TZ but shhh dont tell anyone no one knows :-)   read the terms and the fine print of the muchedet card when u get it
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 26, 2012, 03:26:41 PM
actually the number is ur TZ but shhh dont tell anyone no one knows :-)   read the terms and the fine print of the muchedet card when u get it

The number on your Meuchedt card is your TZ number...thats only if you have a TZ.  If not then it's a Meuchedet number.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 26, 2012, 03:31:05 PM
The number on your Meuchedt card is your TZ number...thats only if you have a TZ.  If not then it's a Meuchedet number.

ahhh....its a secret - but ur passport number a drop switched around is ur TZ number too, trust me look it up   i aint an israli with no TZ and somehow i did golan, daka, and even got a bank acct with my muchedet number
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly on November 26, 2012, 03:52:41 PM
can someone simplify the golan plan for me ?

can you get it at the airport ?

you pay 40 shekel for the sim (do they have nano sims or do you have to cut it) ?

you get a monthly plan for 99 shekel unlimited everything ?

what do you do when you leave ?

Thank you

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 26, 2012, 04:40:53 PM
can someone simplify the golan plan for me ?

can you get it at the airport ?

you pay 40 shekel for the sim (do they have nano sims or do you have to cut it) ?

you get a monthly plan for 99 shekel unlimited everything ?

what do you do when you leave ?

Thank you

comes in nano and cancel when u leave
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly on November 26, 2012, 05:02:55 PM
comes in nano and cancel when u leave
and you can pick it up at tlv ?
so your total is 99+40 ?
do you need to be israeli ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 26, 2012, 05:04:33 PM
and you can pick it up at tlv ?
so your total is 99+40 ?
do you need to be israeli ?

u get it mailed to u AFAIK
yes its 140 first mnth and 100 after tha
and ALOL
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 26, 2012, 05:06:01 PM
and you can pick it up at tlv ?
so your total is 99+40 ?
do you need to be israeli ?
IIRC they only deliver it to an address.
And you don't need to be an Israeli. Just need a TZ and an Israeli CC.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on November 26, 2012, 06:44:47 PM
I'm stuck with 3 sims till the 16th if anyone is interested
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: RJ898 on November 26, 2012, 09:01:53 PM
I'm stuck with 3 sims till the 16th if anyone is interested
im going to Israel from the 4th to the 11th. I'm looking for a sim. Does it have data?

Does anyone have a sim with unlimited (or at least enough for heavy GPS use) data I can borrow/rent?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ChaimBer on November 26, 2012, 09:44:43 PM
I'm stuck with 3 sims till the 16th if anyone is interested

does it work with iPhone 4S? i think its the small SIM..

If the answer is yes i'm interested!

I'm going to israel on the third till the 11th..
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on November 27, 2012, 01:38:48 AM
does it work with iPhone 4S? i think its the small SIM..

If the answer is yes i'm interested!

I'm going to israel on the third till the 11th..

Yes, it does
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on November 27, 2012, 12:15:06 PM
If I Get tho Hot Sim, will it work in the USA (not to utilize as im sure super expensive,) Just to see that it actually works???

Basically I am going to Israel in Janurary for a few weeks, and I want to make sure it works on my Verizon Iphone4s (unlocked) before I get there so I am not stuck when I get there without a phone or gps!
ThankYou
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 27, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
If I Get tho Hot Sim, will it work in the USA (not to utilize as im sure super expensive,) Just to see that it actually works???

Basically I am going to Israel in Janurary for a few weeks, and I want to make sure it works on my Verizon Iphone4s (unlocked) before I get there so I am not stuck when I get there without a phone or gps!
ThankYou

Why do you think it wont work?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly on November 27, 2012, 04:50:03 PM
How long does it take from when you sign up to golan till the sim comes to your house ?

if you want to keep the sim alive for future trips do you have to change to the 10 shekel plan or can you close it out and open it again next time you need it ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on November 27, 2012, 04:52:39 PM
How long does it take from when you sign up to golan till the sim comes to your house ?

if you want to keep the sim alive for future trips do you have to change to the 10 shekel plan or can you close it out and open it again next time you need it ?

around 4 days
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly on November 28, 2012, 11:22:05 AM
Does anybody have a unlimited golan nano sim that i can rent from dec 4-16 ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on November 28, 2012, 11:27:44 AM
Does anybody have a unlimited golan nano sim that i can rent from dec 4-16 ?

Why only golan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly on November 28, 2012, 12:33:22 PM
Why only golan?
you are right any unlimited card (i guess i just thought that golan was the most popular)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygift on December 02, 2012, 02:44:37 PM
i need aphone from dec 30 till jan 9.
I want something unlimited including data (email mainly)My son has a plan that costs 121 shekel a month( when he started they told him 113 but im being charged 121 on the cc) and he wants to change to hot. im thinking maybe to do the change when i come so that ill be able to get that rate even though i only need  the 10 days. (he will keep his old plan till i leave)
i know there was lots of stuff written about hot but it confusing. can someone help me out and tell me if that makes sense.
is hot a good service and will it work all over enven if there isnt a wifi signal?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygift on December 02, 2012, 08:41:43 PM
if hot is a good idea then where do i get it? will they do it with an american credit card? I heard that you have to go to Malcha mall. Is there any way to get it in the geula area? or how about in ben gurion?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: bhphotoman on December 03, 2012, 12:33:49 AM
Looking for a sim that will work in your standard android need unlimited data

Renting from the 9-10 of Dec till 17-19 what is there available

Or what phone company can I rent from that's quality

Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 03, 2012, 02:06:21 AM
Looking for a sim that will work in your standard android need unlimited data

Renting from the 9-10 of Dec till 17-19 what is there available

Or what phone company can I rent from that's quality

Thanks

PM me.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 03, 2012, 02:19:00 AM
need an unlocked phone here in IL any idea? cheap just workable -
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on December 03, 2012, 02:21:49 AM
need an unlocked phone here in IL any idea? cheap just workable -
For short term use or want to buy?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 03, 2012, 02:23:35 AM
For short term use or want to buy?

forsure till pesach maybe even shorter
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 03, 2012, 06:18:19 AM
Okay, I have officially taken as much crap as I am willing to take from Cellcom. I've absolutely had it. We are getting a divorce. ;D

Now debating between HOT Mobile and Golan (unless someone thinks a different carrier would be better). I make some calls, send a moderate amount of SMS, use LOTS of Internet (i.e. not getting throttled after 1 GB would be awesome), and sometimes call America. Te'udat zehut and Israeli credit card are not an issue for me.

Questions:

1) HOT Mobile: do they allow you to choose your own number? On their site, there doesn't seem to be any such option... if I go into a store, will they let me?

2) HOT Mobile or Golan: if I port my existing number there, what happens during those four days (or so) until they mail me the SIM? (Yes, I know HOT has stores, but they're running a web-only special now.)  Does Cellcom deactivate my account as soon as I sign up with HOT/Golan, or do I have until the new SIM arrives and I activate it? Which brings me to my next (similar) question...

3) If I port my number, how soon does Cellcom become aware of my "betrayal"? I'm still fighting with them over some 1,000 NIS of charges. Right now I have threatened several times that I will leave them if this doesn't get sorted out, and shockingly, it does seem to be having some effect (however minimal that effect may be); however, once I go ahead and actually do it, I lose my leverage. So how soon does Cellcom get notified that I've jumped ship? As soon as I sign up for my new account, or only upon activation?

4) If the answer to questions 2 and 3 is "upon activation", then what happens if I get the new SIM in the mail, but choose not to activate it for, say, another week - will that cause any issues? i.e. Will the new carrier cancel my account - or just activate it on their own - if I don't activate within a certain amount of time? If not, it would be a great way to have "pas b'salo" - order SIMs now, and have them already in my possession the instant I'm ready to switch...

5) Number porting and changing: both HOT Mobile and Golan are running specials now specifically for people who port their numbers over from another carrier. Once I become their customer, will they then let me change to a new 053/058 number? At the end of the day, I'm not too crazy about my existing number, and the port would be pretty much just to take advantage of the special. So I'd love to change it afterward, for free. Can that be done?

6) Right now, despite the fact that both HOT Mobile (including unlimited calls to the US) and Golan are the same 99 NIS, I'm leaning toward HOT because (1) they have physical locations I can go to if I have a problem, and (2) they have a 10 agorot plan I can switch to for when I'm out of the country. Am I missing anything? Is there any reason I should choose Golan instead - i.e. is their service better, or their Internet faster, or whatever?

TIA!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on December 03, 2012, 06:57:29 AM
Okay, I have officially taken as much crap as I am willing to take from Cellcom. I've absolutely had it. We are getting a divorce. ;D

Now debating between HOT Mobile and Golan (unless someone thinks a different carrier would be better). I make some calls, send a moderate amount of SMS, use LOTS of Internet (i.e. not getting throttled after 1 GB would be awesome), and sometimes call America. Te'udat zehut and Israeli credit card are not an issue for me.

What is HOTs special now?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 03, 2012, 07:00:28 AM
What is HOTs special now?

Why not look at their site? :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 03, 2012, 07:24:03 AM
@moishebatch (too long to quote all :)
Its sad that people take this whole divorce thing for granted :-) :-)
The porting happens at activation, so you can do it a week later.
The company you are porting from, finds out instantly, and usually call you right away to persuade you to stay, and up to four hours later your new sim will be working.
Not tried both but Golan works fine for me. Though someone has complained to me about not good 3G coverage. 
You can not change your number once you chose to port your old one. (if you really want a good number, you can maybe choose one at hot, than port it to Golan or w.)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on December 03, 2012, 07:28:52 AM
Why not look at their site? :)

First 2 months FREE
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygold90 on December 04, 2012, 12:43:51 AM
im looking to rent a phone/sim card in israel for a week along wit 6 other people from jan 6th-13th. if anyone can help please PM me.   Thanks!!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 04, 2012, 06:39:11 AM
im looking to rent a phone/sim card in israel for a week along wit 6 other people from jan 6th-13th. if anyone can help please PM me.   Thanks!!

there is million of rental company's now
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 04, 2012, 06:40:42 AM
need an unlocked phone here in IL any idea? cheap just workable -

c2-01 , on zap now for 380
or http://www.buy2.co.il/Center/dailydeal/index/b660ffca-cc2b-449e-b8aa-2afe3759b7bc
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 04, 2012, 11:01:48 AM
c2-01 , on zap now for 380
+1 and people will even think its kosher :-) its the new in style kosher phone, but the networks take about 800 shekel for it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 04, 2012, 01:24:06 PM
Its sad that people take this whole divorce thing for granted :-) :-)

I know, right? :P

The company you are porting from, finds out instantly, and usually call you right away to persuade you to stay

Instantly means the instant you apply to the new carrier (even before the SIM arrives in the mail), or the instant you try to activate?

You can not change your number once you chose to port your old one.

Are you sure about this? i.e. Have you (or anyone you know) tried?

I mean, why wouldn't they let you change - what have they got to lose?

(if you really want a good number, you can maybe choose one at hot, than port it to Golan or w.)

Who's "w"?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 04, 2012, 01:38:53 PM
1. As soon as you activate and confirm the porting of your number, you will get an automated phonecall if you want to be transferred to a rep, to hear about their promotion.
2. I was once told that with orange.
3. Vice versa
You will actually get a text with the exact time when you will be ported (exactly 3 hours later)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 04, 2012, 01:59:18 PM
1. As soon as you activate and confirm the porting of your number, you will get an automated phonecall if you want to be transferred to a rep, to hear about their promotion.
2. I was once told that with orange.
3. Vice versa
You will actually get a text with the exact time when you will be ported (exactly 3 hours later)

Thanks!

Was the promotion any good? :P
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 04, 2012, 02:52:37 PM
Thanks!

Was the promotion any good? :P
I didnt choose to speak to them...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on December 04, 2012, 03:01:06 PM
1. As soon as you activate and confirm the porting of your number, you will get an automated phonecall if you want to be transferred to a rep, to hear about their promotion.
2. I was once told that with orange.
3. Vice versa
You will actually get a text with the exact time when you will be ported (exactly 3 hours later)

When I ported my landline from Bezeq to Cellcom I immediately got an sms from Bezeq to call them and 'confirm' that it is me that had asked for the porting.
I then wasted almost half an hour on the phone with them after they had an cheaper offer, which at the end of the day was more expensive... :(
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 04, 2012, 07:34:06 PM
When I ported my landline from Bezeq to Cellcom

Wow. Didn't know you could do that. :o

And people calling you still pay landline rates?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 05, 2012, 12:59:04 AM
Wow. Didn't know you could do that. :o

And people calling you still pay landline rates?
probably from Bezeq to cellphone landline.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 05, 2012, 01:00:42 AM
I would recommend to try to stick with a big company, if possible, it might be worth the extra few shekels. I moved over one of my lines to golan on Sunday, I am prob moving back any day.
Although some people are happy with them, it is important that each one points out their individual problems, they experience.
Internet is slow in some places, the voicemail menu is quite annoying, it gives a very short time for someone to record his message (which is not good for me) it does not show the icon when you have a voicemail, you just get text (not good, sometimes I dont have time to listen, but later forget to listen if no icon).
Im sure I will find out soon.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on December 05, 2012, 02:30:31 AM
probably from Bezeq to cellphone landline.

Correct, I'm on Cellcom Total.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 05, 2012, 02:36:27 AM
Although some people are happy with them, it is important that each one points out their individual problems, they experience.
Internet is slow in some places, the voicemail menu is quite annoying, it gives a very short time for someone to record his message (which is not good for me) it does not show the icon when you have a voicemail, you just get text (not good, sometimes I dont have time to listen, but later forget to listen if no icon).

Thanks for the heads-up.

Can anyone with HOT Mobile share their experiences, especially as relates to these issues?
Title: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: njmacman on December 05, 2012, 12:27:18 PM
We love hot mobile. After the setup (which always takes time) it works smoothly and bills charged to my American card.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 05, 2012, 01:00:05 PM
We love hot mobile. After the setup (which always takes time) it works smoothly and bills charged to my American card.

Same here , i'm done with Golan
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 05, 2012, 01:01:12 PM
Same here , i'm done with Golan

What's better about Hot mobile?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 05, 2012, 01:05:46 PM
What's better about Hot mobile?

Golan never disconnect my 8 lines for 6 month already 
after i sent more then 15 times fax , and the original signed papers in registered mail, my credit card being every month and i'm going now for law suit

Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 05, 2012, 01:09:22 PM
Golan never disconnect my 8 lines for 6 month already 
after i sent more then 15 times fax , and the original signed papers in registered mail, my credit card being every month and i'm going now for law suit
Wow.  Crazy. Sorry to hear. Thas nuts
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 05, 2012, 01:23:30 PM
Wow.  Crazy. Sorry to hear. Thas nuts


(http://i48.tinypic.com/2afmjuq.jpg)

i have no other words than a גנבים i did everything i can before going to court
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 05, 2012, 01:44:10 PM
Call up Amex and say someone stole ur card.....golan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 05, 2012, 01:49:34 PM
You can tell Amex you cancelled service. Then Golan might finally cancel your service.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 05, 2012, 01:58:22 PM
If I call HoT Mobile, will they let me choose my cell number like Golan?

Also, can you roam with Hot Mobile in other countries?

Can you cancel at anytime?

Are there any differences in the plans between Golan and Hot Mobile?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 05, 2012, 03:20:16 PM
If I call HoT Mobile, will they let me choose my cell number like Golan?

Also, can you roam with Hot Mobile in other countries?

Can you cancel at anytime?

Are there any differences in the plans between Golan and Hot Mobile?


Good # at Hot i can help you out the guy in Tachana Merkazit gave me : 05338888**
you can roam , check out the web site for pricing .
you can cancel anytime with anyone
basically no , maybe some details
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 05, 2012, 03:20:52 PM
You can tell Amex you cancelled service. Then Golan might finally cancel your service.

Call up Amex and say someone stole ur card.....golan


i did , thy recharge my card over and over again .
i don't want to issue a new card .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 05, 2012, 03:24:43 PM

i did , thy recharge my card over and over again .
i don't want to issue a new card .

I like Golan for the ability to choose my own numbers. My family members all have numbers corresponding to their American Cell/House numbers which makes life so much easier.

But since they took away the ability to add lines with a US CC I might have to open some account with Hot Mobile.


Maybe I will wait until I am in Israel next week to open it.  Do they give you the sim right away? Can I pay with AMerican CC anywhere? Do I need my teudat Zehut number?

TIA
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 05, 2012, 03:45:52 PM
you can choose your # ( at least the guy in תחנה מרכזית let me )
i have no clue about american c/c or TZ but i can help you with TZ if you need one
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on December 05, 2012, 04:19:09 PM
Golan just went down in price to 49 shekel a month for unlimited everything for the first six months
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 05, 2012, 04:20:41 PM
Golan just went down in price to 49 shekel a month for unlimited everything for the first six months
if u port an existing number
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 06, 2012, 06:00:48 AM
Golan just went down in price to 49 shekel a month for unlimited everything for the first six months
Golan had this for a month as reported earlier,but good odor is HOT just matched it!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 07, 2012, 06:36:24 AM
Anybody have experience using golan/hot for laptop modem internet on the move?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygift on December 07, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
can someone please help me. this thread is so long and I am confused.
I am arriving in Israel Dec 30 and will be there till Jan 8 at night. I need a sim card  with unlimited data for  email.
for making regular I would prefer unlimited but the email is more important.
I have my own iPhone 3g . I only need the sim card.
it seems to me that HOT would be the best and cheapest but I can't figure out from this thread if I need an isreili credit card.
I also don't want to continue being
 charged after I leave (after the one month)
also is there a way to set it up from the USA? or can I do it in the airport when I arrive?
please help out
thanx
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 07, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
can someone please help me. this thread is so long and I am confused.
I am arriving in Israel Dec 30 and will be there till Jan 8 at night. I need a sim card  with unlimited data for  email.
for making regular I would prefer unlimited but the email is more important.
I have my own iPhone 3g . I only need the sim card.
it seems to me that HOT would be the best and cheapest but I can't figure out from this thread if I need an isreili credit card.
I also don't want to continue being
 charged after I leave (after the one month)
also is there a way to set it up from the USA? or can I do it in the airport when I arrive?
please help out
thanx

ppl have reported that it does indeed work with an american CC - I believe all you need is a teudat zehut number and you can sign up online though hot mobile's website.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 08, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
What the "experts" on this topic keep on stating that you need an Israeli CC as well???

Also will they ship to the use?

Basically my understanding is, (someone pls correct me if Im wrong);

1) you need TZ (can probably use any sequence of # and they would know the difference, or google TZ and get a number)
2)you need Israeli CC
3) an Israeli address to be mailed to.
4) or got Malcha mall and there they will accept an american CC with no TZ

I wanted to get one b4 I arrive just in case I have a problem, but there doesnt seem to be a way!

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 08, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
What the "experts" on this topic keep on stating that you need an Israeli CC as well???

Also will they ship to the use?

Basically my understanding is, (someone pls correct me if Im wrong);

1) you need TZ (can probably use any sequence of # and they would know the difference, or google TZ and get a number)
2)you need Israeli CC
3) an Israeli address to be mailed to.
4) or got Malcha mall and there they will accept an american CC with no TZ

I wanted to get one b4 I arrive just in case I have a problem, but there doesnt seem to be a way!

Did you try hot mobile with an American CC online?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 10, 2012, 08:43:56 AM
Did you try hot mobile with an American CC online?


Where would you ship it to? A us address? or to an Israeli address?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 10, 2012, 09:09:20 AM

Where would you ship it to? A us address? or to an Israeli address?

If you want, you can order it to my address and pick it up from me when you get here. Or, I could mail it to you if you'll pay the ~6 NIS airmail postage.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 10, 2012, 09:37:09 AM
If you want, you can order it to my address and pick it up from me when you get here. Or, I could mail it to you if you'll pay the ~6 NIS airmail postage.

Thank you very much, thats really kind of you:) Not sure yet what I will do but Ill keep you posted!

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: bentdoc on December 11, 2012, 05:18:46 PM
FYI: I was at HOT Mobile in Malcha today - they refused to work without TZ. To be sure, any valid TZ would do, but they asked me to have a copy of the TZ faxed to them tomorrow.

I don't know if this was a fluke, but they were all quite adamant.

At least they accepted my US AMEX card.....



Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 11, 2012, 05:26:06 PM
FYI: I was at HOT Mobile in Malcha today - they refused to work without TZ. To be sure, any valid TZ would do, but they asked me to have a copy of the TZ faxed to them tomorrow.

I don't know if this was a fluke, but they were all quite adamant.

At least they accepted my US AMEX card.....

Can you just have the number?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 11, 2012, 09:07:25 PM
Can you just have the number?

This poor guy, how many cell plans and hotel reservations I can only guess...on the other hand maybe he has elite status everywhere with out knowing why.....

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wS6zEwdDS04/ShrVAHuIv4I/AAAAAAAAADk/JhKWWN6JXR0/s320/Israeli%2BID%2B001.JPG&imgrefurl=http://adamzionistjourney.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-received-my-israeli-id-teudat-zehut.html&h=240&w=320&sz=23&tbnid=RIJig9U2P3jNTM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=121&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dteudat%2Bzehut%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=teudat+zehut&usg=__YnYW7McayqmlCveT4b_hWdEks8g=&docid=qsZtjHvZB4K6EM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NubHULiuIPGM0QHx_4CoAQ&ved=0CDoQ9QEwAg&dur=378
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 12, 2012, 02:17:40 AM
This poor guy, how many cell plans and hotel reservations I can only guess...on the other hand maybe he has elite status everywhere with out knowing why.....

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wS6zEwdDS04/ShrVAHuIv4I/AAAAAAAAADk/JhKWWN6JXR0/s320/Israeli%2BID%2B001.JPG&imgrefurl=http://adamzionistjourney.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-received-my-israeli-id-teudat-zehut.html&h=240&w=320&sz=23&tbnid=RIJig9U2P3jNTM:&tbnh=91&tbnw=121&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dteudat%2Bzehut%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=teudat+zehut&usg=__YnYW7McayqmlCveT4b_hWdEks8g=&docid=qsZtjHvZB4K6EM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NubHULiuIPGM0QHx_4CoAQ&ved=0CDoQ9QEwAg&dur=378
Haha, rofl.  Jot down that #, quick!! ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 14, 2012, 07:34:21 AM
How do you call the US from a HOT MOBILE?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: BISPRO on December 14, 2012, 07:39:27 AM
How do you call the US from a HOT MOBILE?
+1-718-***-****
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 15, 2012, 05:05:55 PM
+1-718-***-****

Thanks! I just got HotMobile right before shabbos. They couldn't figure out why the internet wasn't working. They had set in the access points and names it hot and it wasn't working. I turned the phone on and off and it started working. The internet access point says vodaphone now. Am I roaming or something?? I am on a Sprint Motorola Photon btw. Any help would be most appreciated.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: ygift on December 15, 2012, 07:30:39 PM
anyone have a sim card that is unli,ited for calling and data? I need one from dec 30 (Night) till jan 8 at night. if you have one that for whatever reason you are not using (maybe u r starting a new plan etc) i would appreciate using it. I am willing to pay the prorated charge of the month
thanx
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on December 17, 2012, 06:29:02 AM
I heard that a 3G phone is needed for hot mobile. On that phone I don't need data will the calling still work
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on December 18, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
Golan's service is not so so...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 18, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
I heard that a 3G phone is needed for hot mobile. On that phone I don't need data will the calling still work
If it's a 3G phone, yes. Wouldn't the fact that they offer a voice only plan prove that?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on December 19, 2012, 11:01:40 AM
If it's a 3G phone, yes. Wouldn't the fact that they offer a voice only plan prove that?
I meant if its not a 3G phone will calling work as good be u only need the 3G for data
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on December 20, 2012, 09:05:59 AM
Do I need an actual teuda card card hot or is a number good enough
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 20, 2012, 09:06:46 AM
Do I need an actual teuda card card hot or is a number good enough

A number is good enough.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on December 20, 2012, 09:31:53 AM
A number is good enough.
And wud u know if I need a 3G phone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 20, 2012, 10:07:30 PM
I meant if its not a 3G phone will calling work

No
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: daveb on December 25, 2012, 09:52:35 AM
Hi I've read a bit of this thread so i feel like i can ask this now.  Im looking to rent 3 cell phones for my family for 10 days.  I dont need data or to call america. we will not be using them that much. I know there are multiple companies. Any ideas on what the best option is?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 25, 2012, 10:31:22 AM
@Dave - that is being discussed now on the "iphone5 israel" thread.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on December 25, 2012, 10:33:46 AM
@Dave - that is being discussed now on the "iphone5 israel" thread.
Here  (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20431.0) is the thread.
Happens to be this is the correct thread for his question
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 25, 2012, 10:34:52 AM
Here  (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20431.0) is the thread.
Happens to be this is the correct thread for his question
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 25, 2012, 10:40:07 AM
True, but why have it in two threads at the same time.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on December 25, 2012, 10:42:37 AM
True, but why have it in two threads at the same time.
Not his problem that that thread went OT...I guess the threads should be merged
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shiframeir on December 25, 2012, 11:00:41 AM
what's a good price (and where) for an unlimited mobile hotspot (would want at least 4G speed for a laptop) to use in israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 25, 2012, 11:26:38 AM
would want at least 4G speed for a laptop

Israel doesn't have 4G.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 25, 2012, 12:57:55 PM
Israel doesn't have 4G.
in 3 months it will!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shiframeir on December 25, 2012, 12:59:30 PM
ugh, noticed the offers mentioned 3G. thanks, guess i will stick to using wifi at hotels etc. in January. isn't there free wifi in the center of Jerusalem anyway?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Centurion on December 25, 2012, 01:37:35 PM
my iphone 5 (verizon) not working in israel
is this something i have to change on my phone setting? or something i have to call verizon about?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 25, 2012, 01:43:20 PM
my iphone 5 (verizon) not working in israel
is this something i have to change on my phone setting? or something i have to call verizon about?

With a local sim?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 25, 2012, 03:11:36 PM
my iphone 5 (verizon) not working in israel
is this something i have to change on my phone setting? or something i have to call verizon about?
mines working
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 25, 2012, 08:15:22 PM
or go to hot mobile in the central bus station and sign up a new line at their intro offer of 49 shekel a month with unlimited to isral/states/3gb of data and they give you a iphone 5 sim- for another 45 shekel. then when you leave israel call them and switch the plan to the 10 agurot plan which is pay only for what u use and no monthly fees- and you will have a sim for life with the same number.
It seems that no matter how many times the above and similar plans are discussed here and at length - spoon fed, there are still these folks who are more comfortable spending hundreds of dollars on some outrageously priced "travelcell", "talk'nsave" or whatever. 

Mind boggling.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 02:32:13 AM
It seems that no matter how many times the above and similar plans are discussed here and at length - spoon fed, there are still these folks who are more comfortable spending hundreds of dollars on some outrageously priced "travelsell", "talk'nspend" or whatever. 

Mind boggling.

FTFY.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 26, 2012, 02:43:29 AM
FTFY.
Really batchy, do you understand these people?  What are they thinking?  Any limmud zchus?
!פּשוט אַ שאָד די אידישע געלט
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 26, 2012, 04:17:49 AM
Saw this in the mir
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 05:27:07 AM
Really batchy, do you understand these people?  What are they thinking?  Any limmud zchus?
!פּשוט אַ שאָד די אידישע געלט

+1

It's called "too lazy to venture out of their comfort zone".
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on December 26, 2012, 05:45:47 AM
Really batchy, do you understand these people?  What are they thinking?  Any limmud zchus?
!פּשוט אַ שאָד די אידישע געלט
+1

It's called "too lazy to venture out of their comfort zone".
+1
I had a relative who came to Israel for 10 days...paid ~$100-150 for a SIM.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 06:26:19 AM
+1
I had a relative who came to Israel for 10 days...paid ~$100-150 for a SIM.

:o

As Kevin O'leary would say: "They should be brought up on criminal charges... for the murder of money."
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 26, 2012, 06:52:45 AM
:o
As Kevin O'leary would say: "They should be brought up on criminal charges... for the murder of money."
Like!
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 26, 2012, 06:54:03 AM
Like!

sad but that defines my parents (more my father by now) lol  :-[ :)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on December 26, 2012, 07:15:33 AM
sad but that defines my parents (more my father by now) lol  :-[ :)
You got to start teaching him how to get good deals  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 26, 2012, 11:08:39 AM
If I have an Israeli Sim card (Hot) and I put it in my iphone in the USA will it work? ( I just want to test it to make sure it work prior to going to Israel. ) (I am a bit confused, hence the expensive rental plans) I can call my house number and not pick up so no charge?

Thank You
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on December 26, 2012, 11:35:17 AM
If I have an Israeli Sim card (Hot) and I put it in my iphone in the USA will it work? ( I just want to test it to make sure it work prior to going to Israel. ) (I am a bit confused, hence the expensive rental plans) I can call my house number and not pick up so no charge?

Thank You
It should work but you can be charged a connecting fee, so beware of using it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
It should work but you can be charged a connecting fee, so beware of using it.

Try the other way around - use your house phone to call the cell, and don't pick up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 26, 2012, 12:38:57 PM
Be careful. Getting connected to voicemail counts as if the call was picked up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
Be careful. Getting connected to voicemail counts as if the call was picked up.

Maximum price (from a phone card): 12 cents.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 26, 2012, 01:17:05 PM
Calling from the mobile itself can cost a dollar or two if picked up by voicemail.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 01:24:13 PM
Calling from the mobile itself can cost a dollar or two if picked up by voicemail.

Pay attention to the shiur, tzaddik'l...

Try the other way around - use your house phone to call the cell, and don't pick up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Centurion on December 26, 2012, 01:26:31 PM
no sim needed
i paid $25 dollars to verizon and have unlimited data and text ( pro rated per day)
1.99 each call on verizon (skype +google voice free)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 26, 2012, 01:43:33 PM
no sim needed
i paid $25 dollars to verizon and have unlimited data
sure its unlimited? link?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 26, 2012, 03:08:33 PM
Try the other way around - use your house phone to call the cell, and don't pick up.

I know the sim card works, just want to make sure it will work in my Verizon iphone b4 I go (they claim its unlocked)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on December 26, 2012, 03:13:44 PM
I know the sim card works, just want to make sure it will work in my Verizon iphone b4 I go (they claim its unlocked)
So check if you can get a signal. If it doesn't work then it will say that the sim card isn't good.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on December 26, 2012, 03:42:36 PM
Grooveip doesn't work on Golan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2012, 04:53:05 PM
Grooveip doesn't work on Golan

Eh? Why not?!
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on December 26, 2012, 06:48:42 PM
Eh? Why not?!

Don't know, didn't work for me this week
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yitzyul on December 26, 2012, 09:31:13 PM
So check if you can get a signal. If it doesn't work then it will say that the sim card isn't good.

True, but then rack up charges for data use out of Israel if the phone pushes data automatically!

But I guess I gotta try:)

Thank You for all your help
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 27, 2012, 03:10:30 AM
True, but then rack up charges for data use out of Israel if the phone pushes data automatically!

But I guess I gotta try:)

Thank You for all your help

Disable data.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on December 27, 2012, 04:24:01 AM
Does any that lives here use HOT mobile ?

How is their Cell Service ?
And how does their Internet speed on IPhone compare to other providers ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on December 27, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
Does any that lives here use HOT mobile ?

How is their Cell Service ?
And how does their Internet speed on IPhone compare to other providers ?
Just got hot a week ago and I constantly drop calls as per data I'm using a blackberry on that plan and browser dosnt work with hot
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on December 27, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
Just got hot a week ago and I constantly drop calls as per data I'm using a blackberry on that plan and browser dosnt work with hot

Thanks ... For 49 nis it sounds to cheap to be good
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 27, 2012, 11:55:32 AM
Thanks ... For 49 nis it sounds to cheap to be good

Been using it for a week. Have had a dropped call. And I've noticed service disappearing sometimes but otherwise I'm happy.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 27, 2012, 12:37:30 PM
Thanks ... For 49 nis it sounds to cheap to be good
why not use golan?
i am pretty happy with it
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on December 27, 2012, 01:03:18 PM
why not use golan?
i am pretty happy with it

Also poor service
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on December 27, 2012, 01:54:28 PM
Also poor service


+1 compared to orange it's really bad
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on December 27, 2012, 01:55:26 PM


+1 compared to orange it's really bad
I'm pretty happy with Orange.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on December 27, 2012, 01:57:15 PM
I'm pretty happy with Orange.
Me 2 until the bill comes :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 28, 2012, 07:53:17 AM
Hi I've read a bit of this thread so i feel like i can ask this now.  Im looking to rent 3 cell phones for my family for 10 days.  I dont need data or to call america. we will not be using them that much. I know there are multiple companies. Any ideas on what the best option is?
Perhaps a Hot mobile, with their 10 agurot plan, it's free, you only pay one time for the sim card (39 shek? IIRC), 10 agurot/min, 10 agurot/SMS, 10 agurot/1 MB data.
Or (if you're lazy) you can try Isracell (http://www.isracel.com/) for a "Kosher phone", 12.9 cents/min. (+one time $5 "activation fee"), I've used them in the past, before all the deregulation in the Israeli cell phone industry.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on December 28, 2012, 08:05:27 AM
My BIL just came to Israel. He rented a BB with an 058 number and BB service. Any info on this?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 28, 2012, 08:27:36 AM
058 is golan. It was probably thru a third party.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on December 29, 2012, 11:53:20 AM
058 is golan. It was probably thru a third party.
Service is Orange, was probably ported
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 29, 2012, 12:09:42 PM
My BIL just came to Israel. He rented a BB with an 058 number and BB service. Any info on this?

Ummmm... maybe ask him, rather than us? ???
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 29, 2012, 12:13:11 PM
I guess so. But why not ask your BIL directly.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on December 29, 2012, 01:18:37 PM
He got it from one of the rental places. He has no clue what service it is
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on December 29, 2012, 01:45:39 PM
He got it from one of the rental places. He has no clue what service it is
i ws just about to write that.   Guys u think chaikel is that incapable to actualy think to ask his BIL
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 29, 2012, 01:46:48 PM
i ws just about to write that.   Guys u think chaikel is that incapable to actualy think to ask his BIL

No... hence the ???
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 29, 2012, 03:51:36 PM
anyone have 012 mobile? I'm thinking they might be the way to go, as they are now offering the same (almost) packages like hot/golan, but the benefit are that they are sister companies of Orange, which might eliminate all the problems that the other networks have. [just note the 2/3gb differences]. you can pick up a sim in any yellow gas station.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 29, 2012, 04:25:15 PM
anyone have 012 mobile? I'm thinking they might be the way to go, as they are now offering the same (almost) packages like hot/golan, but the benefit are that they are sister companies of Orange, which might eliminate all the problems that the other networks have. [just note the 2/3gb differences]. you can pick up a sim in any yellow gas station.

Wuzzat?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 29, 2012, 04:39:54 PM
Wuzzat?
check out their website. they have two unlimited plans, one is only unlimited to US and Canada with 3gb web allowance, the other has to all other countries but has only 2gb.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 29, 2012, 04:49:11 PM
I tried, but I didn't have an israeli credit card, so they didn't want me.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 29, 2012, 05:18:47 PM
I tried, but I didn't have an israeli credit card, so they didn't want me.
everyone has cracked down now..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 29, 2012, 05:21:12 PM
Their loss... Maybe not!?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 29, 2012, 05:27:12 PM
Maybe not!?
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 29, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
I figured so...
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 30, 2012, 12:04:12 AM
everyone has cracked down now..
???  Hot still accepts my American CC...
Are they the only ones remaining, accepting US CC's?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on December 30, 2012, 01:37:13 AM
???  Hot still accepts my American CC...
Are they the only ones remaining, accepting US CC's?
the ones that have been there from the beginning are still there. new ones are the problem.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on December 30, 2012, 01:41:33 AM
the ones that have been there from the beginning are still there. new ones are the problem.

For Golan, not Hot.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 30, 2012, 01:35:47 PM
anyone have 012 mobile? I'm thinking they might be the way to go, as they are now offering the same (almost) packages like hot/golan, but the benefit are that they are sister companies of Orange, which might eliminate all the problems that the other networks have. [just note the 2/3gb differences]. you can pick up a sim in any yellow gas station.
The one thing they seem to be missing is a free plan, like Hot has..
What do they charge for a 012 sim?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 31, 2012, 01:16:50 AM
Just so that you all know, Hot Mobile no longer allows you to change from any plan to the 10 agurot (free) plan!

I'm not the only one who'se experienced this, they tell me it's until they update their website with the option to change plans online (its about time), strange reason, I don't see a connection.

Having done the change back and forth before, I was at a loss what to do this time, as I was not interested in paying 10 shekel/mo. just to keep the number..  After long conversation, the best way forward, was to switch to 10 shekel plan for one month (so I'd be charged 10 for one month) and then set it to automatically "freeze" for the following months till the next time I'd need it (so no charge for the following months).

My hope is that within the next few months they'll have the online switch enabled.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 31, 2012, 02:01:15 AM
And via telephone they couldn't switch it?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 31, 2012, 02:17:09 AM
And via telephone they couldn't switch it?
The whole conversation above, was via telephone.  They don't yet offer any possible changing of plans online.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on December 31, 2012, 03:04:24 AM
I understand online you can't switch it. But the reps are that incapable that they cant even switch
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: madhatter349 on January 01, 2013, 11:47:50 AM
Any update on whether HOT is allowing to switch to the free plan. I'm going to israel and it seems as if HOT is the best bang for your buck with unlimited internet.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 12:59:23 PM
the best deal (you have to have an Israeli cc)  i found for unlimited in Israel is this: http://www.012mobile.co.il/?ad_type=44_all&gclid=COG3l9rax7QCFcNV3godCXcA3w
For six months for 44₪, after six months 98 ₪ a month
The plan includes:
Calls and unlimited sms
Browsing volume 3GB
Calls to the U.S. and Canada
Unlimited (mobile and stationary)
or
Calls and unlimited sms
Browsing Volume 2GB
Overseas calls - 42 countries (U.S. and Canada - even mobile)
and checkout this guy: http://davidwenner.blogspot.co.il/  ,he has allot to say about phone plans in Israel
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Any update on whether HOT is allowing to switch to the free plan. I'm going to israel and it seems as if HOT is the best bang for your buck with unlimited internet.
I spoke with them. It didn't sound like you can switch to the free plan. (I only spoke to one rep...)
But You could switch to the 10 Shekel Plan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 01, 2013, 01:27:51 PM
and checkout this guy: http://davidwenner.blogspot.co.il/  ,he has allot to say about phone plans in Israel
from six months ago?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 01:47:23 PM
what,its not worth reading?
from six months ago?
what,not worth reading? its educational!!! and he has links to all the top providers   
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: madhatter349 on January 01, 2013, 02:16:49 PM
so if switching to the free plan on HOT is no longer an option, what do you guys recommend now as a good option for those who only need cell service for 1 month?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 02:19:47 PM
so if switching to the free plan on HOT is no longer an option, what do you guys recommend now as a good option for those who only need cell service for 1 month?
Read my post above.  Pay 10 shekel for 1 month of service on the 10 shek plan, than have it "frozen" till the next time you come.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 03:49:58 PM
Gal - Why can't you freeze without switching?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 04:08:57 PM
Gal - Why can't you freeze without switching?
Good point, but IIRC she told me that you first have to pay for a month before you freeze, so if I have to pay for another month which I'm anyways not using, it may as well be 10 shek and not 99!

BTW, in case you haven't realized, I'm a guy, not a gal ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 04:18:46 PM
so i just was in malcha spoke to a few of the services.

012 mobile - first 6 months is 44 shek and after that its 88 unlimited everything - though u need a tz and a bank

pelephone - 109 for unlimited everything besides calling US - 129 with calling CHUL

hmobile (home centers) 89 shek unlimited IL and 109 unlimted to everything
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
so i just was in malcha spoke to a few of the services.

012 mobile - first 6 months is 44 shek and after that its 88 unlimited everything - though u need a tz and a bank

pelephone - 109 for unlimited everything besides calling US - 129 with calling CHUL

hmobile (home centers) 89 shek unlimited IL and 109 unlimted to everything
pelephone and hmobile needs tz and a bank ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
pelephone and hmobile needs tz and a bank ?

everyone is now is requiring it!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 04:43:20 PM
everyone is now is requiring it!
Orange is not...AFAIK
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
so i just was in malcha spoke to a few of the services.

012 mobile - first 6 months is 44 shek and after that its 88 unlimited everything - though u need a tz and a bank

pelephone - 109 for unlimited everything besides calling US - 129 with calling CHUL

hmobile (home centers) 89 shek unlimited IL and 109 unlimted to everything
A) Since when does anyone require a bank acct?  Is a CC not good enough?

B) What are "(home centers)"?

C) Since when is Hot 109?  Are they not 99 for the plan incl. 30 s/t countries?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 04:46:00 PM
Orange is not...AFAIK
TZ?  Bank acct?  Israeli CC?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 04:46:57 PM
TZ?  Bank acct?  Israeli CC?
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.

Unless things changed in the past week.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 04:50:11 PM
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.

Unless things changed in the past week.
But don't all their plans suck?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 04:50:26 PM
A) Since when does anyone require a bank acct?  Is a CC not good enough?

B) What are "(home centers)"?

C) Since when is Hot 109?  Are they not 99 for the plan incl. 30 s/t countries?

home center is a place in the mall and i never wrote about hot i didnt see tem there
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
But don't all their plans suck?
IMHO no.  I got the 3 sims for 270 nis.  Use 2 of them and rent out the 3rd or give it to family members who visit.  If you had a tablet you can put the third sim in there.  I like the service alot.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 04:54:40 PM
IMHO no.  I got the 3 sims for 270 nis.  Use 2 of them and rent out the 3rd or give it to family members who visit.  If you had a tablet you can put the third sim in there.  I like the service alot.
maybe ill buy it off u -
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 04:56:14 PM
maybe ill buy it off u -
I would but I always have family members comeing up and its great for them.  If you ever need to borrow it...kol hakavode  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
I would but I always have family members comeing up and its great for them.  If you ever need to borrow it...kol hakavode  ;)

kol hakavod ..lol  and thanks  ok thought maybe u were LOOKing to get rid of it
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 04:57:39 PM
home center is a place in the mall and i never wrote about hot i didnt see tem there
Oops, so hmobile is something new?
I thought you were referring to Hot...
IMHO no.  I got the 3 sims for 270 nis.  Use 2 of them and rent out the 3rd or give it to family members who visit.  If you had a tablet you can put the third sim in there.  I like the service alot.
I have no use for 3 sim's.  Can you elaborate as to what the plan is?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 05:00:39 PM
Oops, so hmobile is something new?
I thought you were referring to Hot...I have no use for 3 sim's.  Can you elaborate as to what the plan is?

it seemed like boost or something in comparable
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 05:01:15 PM
you need the tz to get the Israeli bank acct , which you need to get the Israeli cc which you need to get the plan (which i think you need the tz for also)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 05:02:15 PM
you need the tz to get the Israeli bank acct , which you need to get the Israeli cc which you need to get the plan (which i think you need the tz for also)

-1

You can get an Israeli bank account with a passport.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:02:38 PM
you need the tz to get the Israeli bank acct , which you need to get the Israeli cc which you need to get the plan (which i think you need the tz for also)
-1
ETA- Youre to quick for me :P
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 01, 2013, 05:02:55 PM
you need the tz to get the Israeli bank acct , which you need to get the Israeli cc which you need to get the plan (which i think you need the tz for also)
FTFY
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:05:16 PM
I have no use for 3 sim's.  Can you elaborate as to what the plan is?
Unlimited talk,text,calls to U.S., data up to a gb after that throttle
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: madhatter349 on January 01, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
I spoke with them. It didn't sound like you can switch to the free plan. (I only spoke to one rep...)
But You could switch to the 10 Shekel Plan.

So my best option is ordering the 49 plan  from https://www.hotmobile.co.il/HOTmobile_en/Pages/Join_online.aspx for the first month and than before leaving have it switched to the 10, and than frozen in the 3rd month. Essentially I'm just looking for the easiest solution to have unlimited service for my iphone 5
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:07:21 PM
you need the tz to get the Israeli bank acct , which you need to get the Israeli cc which you need to get the plan (which i think you need the tz for also)
Who's plan are you talking about?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
Unlimited talk,text,calls to U.S., data up to a gb after that throttle
Works for bb?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: madhatter349 on January 01, 2013, 05:08:04 PM
I would but I always have family members comeing up and its great for them.  If you ever need to borrow it...kol hakavode  ;)

I'm coming to israel this week, would it be possible to rent the sim for 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
So my best option is ordering the 49 plan  from https://www.hotmobile.co.il/HOTmobile_en/Pages/Join_online.aspx for the first month and than before leaving have it switched to the 10, and than frozen in the 3rd month. Essentially I'm just looking for the easiest solution to have unlimited service for my iphone 5
Correct!  Quick learner for a newbie ;)
Hopefully by the time your first month is over, they'll have returned the option to switch to the free plan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:09:41 PM
Works for bb?
Hey MEIR613...Welcome  :D

I put it in a bb and the data seemed like it didnt work. The truth is I didnt play around with it or call Orange...so it could be it would work.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:10:32 PM
What's the eitza for someone with no Israeli cc and tz?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:10:58 PM
I'm coming to israel this week, would it be possible to rent the sim for 2 weeks.
Not sure...have a relative coming.  But if you you become desperate before you leave PM me and I try to work something out.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:12:04 PM
What's the eitza for someone with no Israeli cc and tz?
So far what it seems...Orange.  But not sure how good it is for a visit.  Each SIM cost like 90 nis....kinda annoying.

You still didnt get anything?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
Unlimited talk,text,calls to U.S., data up to a gb after that throttle
That 1 gb, what speed?  And after they throttle, what speed?
Would you compare it to the 4G=high speed, 3G=throttled, that you get here in the USA?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:12:55 PM
Hey MEIR613...Welcome  :D

I put it in a bb and the data seemed like it didnt work. The truth is I didnt play around with it or call Orange...so it could be it would work.
I was in tachana tonight and hot said you need Israeli Id. I'm going to talpiyot tomorrow I heard there they don't care as much
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 01, 2013, 05:13:45 PM
Not sure...have a relative coming.  But if you you become desperate before you leave PM me and I try to work something out.
or he can send me a pm.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:14:15 PM
That 1 gb, what speed?  And after they throttle, what speed?
Would you compare it to the 4G=high speed, 3G=throttled, that you get here in the USA?
I dont know speeds  :-[

Havent used a smart phone in USA yet.  Only had a centro that wasnt the fastest.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 05:14:21 PM
pelephone - 109 for unlimited everything besides calling US - 129 with calling CHUL

This one sounds interesting, especially since PlatinumGuy said they had the fastest data... Any more details?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 01, 2013, 05:14:48 PM
I was in tachana tonight and hot said you need Israeli Id. I'm going to talpiyot tomorrow I heard there they don't care as much
try again tomorrow and see if its different people, they did it for a few of my friends without.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:14:52 PM
So far what it seems...Orange.  But not sure how good it is for a visit.  Each SIM cost like 90 nis....kinda annoying.

You still didnt get anything?
I ordered from hot online and left the I'd blank but they were suppose to call a friend of mine here and they never did so I think the best option is to go down to the main branch
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:15:28 PM
I was in tachana tonight and hot said you need Israeli Id. I'm going to talpiyot tomorrow I heard there they don't care as much
If you pass an Orange store go in and ask them if their SIM card works for a BB...if they say it does I can try to work something out.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 05:15:50 PM
I was in tachana tonight and hot said you need Israeli Id. I'm going to talpiyot tomorrow I heard there they don't care as much

Order online.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:16:10 PM
try again tomorrow and see if its different people, they did it for a few of my friends without.
K ill try. It's just so funny the first thing he asked me was if I have Israeli Id
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
I ordered from hot online and left the I'd blank but they were suppose to call a friend of mine here and they never did so I think the best option is to go down to the main branch
Order online.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:16:58 PM
Order online.
I ordered from hot online and left the I'd blank but they were suppose to call a friend of mine here and they never did so I think the best option is to go down to the main branch
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:19:09 PM
I was in tachana tonight and hot said you need Israeli Id. I'm going to talpiyot tomorrow I heard there they don't care as much
Keep us updated! :)  It seems that the Malchah crew don't do it any more.
So far what it seems...Orange.  ... Each SIM cost like 90 nis....kinda annoying.
+ Only 1gb high speed data, + Must buy 3 sim's...  And you like their plans?!  :o
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 05:19:18 PM
Orange requires a 500 shekel deposit  if you don't have a TZ.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 05:21:19 PM
Orange requires a 500 shekel deposit  if you don't have a TZ.

My friend told them he has Meuchedet; they wrote down his Meuchedet number and waived the deposit. :o
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
When I'm in America I go VR hunting when I come to Israel I go cell phone hunting ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 05:23:57 PM
BB with orange is am extra 39 shekel. And hot does not support BB
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 05:24:11 PM
Order online.

Sorry, shoulda been more specific. When you order online, don't leave it blank; fill in the TZ of your most recent Arab taxi driver, which you get from his receipt. ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
Only 1gb high speed data, + Must buy 3 sim's...  And you like their plans?!  :o
I was used to paying more for a single phone for the past 6 years having a kosher phone.  I tried with Golan and had everything they required but it just didnt go through. I spoke to their CS (whatever CS they actually have)  and they had no clue what was wrong with my order.  I needed something quick so I just went to Orange.  I dont mind buying 3 SIM's because like I said it's used alot by family members who now dont have to go through everything everyone here has to go through whos visiting.  The 1gb data doesnt bother me because I'm ususally either on PC or on phone in my house so I use wifi.  What annoyed me is paying for each SIM.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:25:25 PM
My friend told them he has Meuchedet; they wrote down his Meuchedet number and waived the deposit. :o
He told me the same..I tried it (in a few stores) and they didnt budge
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 05:25:38 PM
 With orange you dont need to get three phones. Its just a discounted price. One unlimited is 125 sh
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:26:12 PM
BB with orange is am extra 39 shekel. And hot does not support BB
You know from experience?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:26:56 PM
With orange you dont need to get three phones. Its just a discounted price. One unlimited is 135 sh
FTFY...I'm 99.9% sure
They told me its buy two get one free.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:29:13 PM
You know from experience?
I think thats been discussed here in the past.  (Not saying that you were required to read up this whole thread..just saying that even though I didnt experience it I do recall reading it here sometime)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
Yes I know certainly. Spoke to them today and to more than one rep.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
Yes I know certainly. Spoke to them today and to more than one rep.
Please quote who your replying to.  :)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:31:45 PM
I think thats been discussed here in the past.  (Not saying that you were required to read up this whole thread..just saying that even though I didnt experience it I do recall reading it here sometime)
I remember someone saying that it does work for bb
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 05:33:06 PM
He told me the same..I tried it (in a few stores) and they didnt budge
ive used it successfully on a few diff times
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:33:46 PM
Orange requires a 500 shekel deposit  if you don't have a TZ.
The pile seems to get bigger, Orange sounds like a really sweet option  ::) :P
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:34:01 PM
ive used it successfully on a few diff times
Used what?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:34:07 PM
Yes I know certainly. Spoke to them today and to more than one rep.
Very possible, I just thought Golan bb didn't work
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 05:36:00 PM
Used what?
MUECHEDET!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:36:04 PM
This thread needs a wiki
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 05:37:14 PM
-1

You can get an Israeli bank account with a passport.
not one that will get you closer to a plan(which is what we were talking about)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:38:20 PM
Yes I know certainly. Spoke to them today and to more than one rep.
So the only plan that supports bb is orange, maybe? And maybe pelephone?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:38:40 PM
The pile seems to get bigger, Orange sounds like a really sweet option  ::) :P
:P :P
If I started looking all around at every detail of every cell phone company months ago..I will still be looking for a plan (like someone I know here).  Things change everyday and I just needed to settle.  Listen...Im not saying its the best for everyone.  I dont know all the requirement for all the other companies but it seems like this is pretty good in regards to an American tourist being able to get it....but it comes with a price.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
MUECHEDET!
For what? A cell phone plan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:40:11 PM
This thread needs a wiki
+1
That link s/o posted earlier from http://davidwenner.blogspot.co.il/ (http://davidwenner.blogspot.co.il/), it's pretty nice, though the info is a bit old.

His chart should serve as a good start for a Wiki.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:41:19 PM
not one that will get you closer to a plan(which is what we were talking about)
Sorry...wasnt following every post...which plan are you referring to?  And why wouldnt any bank account be good enough for a cell company?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 05:42:07 PM
not one that will get you closer to a plan(which is what we were talking about)

-1

Again.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:43:39 PM
:P :P
but it seems like this is pretty good in regards to an American tourist being able to get it....but it comes with a price.
I think I may qualify for the above criteria, and I thought the whole idea is to not "come with a price"!!
That's why, I still say Hot is the bomb, I'm not "still looking", I'm always on the lookout for s/t better.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
+1
That link s/o posted earlier from http://davidwenner.blogspot.co.il/ (http://davidwenner.blogspot.co.il/), it's pretty nice, though the info is a bit old.

His chart should serve as a good start for a Wiki.
Also, he brings some interesting points which he read from the fine print, like the surf limit for Hot is 3GB (still more than e/o else).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:46:18 PM
I think I may qualify for the above criteria, and I thought the whole idea is to not "come with a price"!!
That's why, I still say Hot is the bomb, I'm not "still looking", I'm always on the lookout for s/t better.
What do you have now? Hot? whats the plan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
I was refering to - Orange works for BB!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:47:53 PM
I was refering to - Orange works for BB!
Can you pease quote so I know what your talking about
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:50:14 PM
What do you have now? Hot? whats the plan?
Yes, Hot - 99 shek for unlimited talk, sms, web, and calling to ~30 countries.

It's not in use now, so it's frozen under the 10 shekel plan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 05:50:47 PM
 sorry I cant quote from my device Where I am posting from.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
Yes, Hot - 99 shek for unlimited talk, sms, web, and calling to ~30 countries.

It's not in use now, so it's frozen under the 10 shekel plan.
Thats pretty good.  What Israeli things do you need?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 05:53:41 PM
-1

Again.
pleas explain  ???
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 01, 2013, 05:55:35 PM
like the surf limit for Hot is 3GB (still more than e/o else).
-1. Many of them are. He is very outdated.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:55:50 PM
Thats pretty good.  What Israeli things do you need?
Israeli things?  ???  What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:56:07 PM
pleas explain  ???
If a cell company requires you to have a bank account...it doesnt make a difference which bank its from.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 01, 2013, 05:56:23 PM
pleas explain  ???

Again, meaning I still disagree with you. Why don't you think getting a bank account with a passport will help?!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2013, 05:56:45 PM
Israeli things?  ???  What are you talking about?
If you need Israeli CC, TZ
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 05:56:52 PM
Israeli things?  ???  What are you talking about?
lol...Israeli CC, TZ, Bank account etc....
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 05:57:02 PM
-1. Many of them are. He is very outdated.
Then I stand corrected, now then I guess you are the perfect one with the knowledge to start a Wiki!  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:00:08 PM
Orange does not need TZ or IL CC.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 06:01:21 PM
Again, meaning I still disagree with you. Why don't you think getting a bank account with a passport will help?!
If a cell company requires you to have a bank account...it doesnt make a difference which bank its from.
my understanding is that you need an Israeli cc
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:01:35 PM
lol...Israeli CC, TZ, Bank account etc....
Ohh, lol is right!  I have nothing Israeli.  I opened it in Malcha mall when they were still giving to those w/o a TZ.
So now I have a fictitious TZ, courtesy of Hot!  Anyone know what else I can do with this TZ?
Can I open Israeli CC's and Bank Acct's with my "TZ"?!  ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:01:57 PM
I can try to help with the wIki but I need a few more posts first. . .
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:02:29 PM
Orange does not need TZ or IL CC.
You got to follow the thread  :P

Orange is not...AFAIK
TZ?  Bank acct?  Israeli CC?
Nope.
Nope.
Nope.

Unless things changed in the past week.

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:04:05 PM
Orange does not need TZ or IL CC.
Orange requires a 500 shekel deposit  if you don't have a TZ.
???
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:04:28 PM
my understanding is that you need an Israeli cc
Ok...One of us is missing something here.  Walk into a bank...get an account with them with your passport get an IL CC with them...go to the cell company and get the plan with your IL CC that you got from you IL bank account that you opened up with just you American passport   :D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:05:31 PM
Ohh, lol is right!  I have nothing Israeli.  I opened it in Malcha mall when they were still giving to those w/o a TZ.
So now I have a fictitious TZ, courtesy of Hot!  Anyone know what else I can do with this TZ?
Can I open Israeli CC's and Bank Acct's with my "TZ"?!  ;D
You can open Israeli CC's and bank accounts even without a TZ..all you need is passport
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 06:05:56 PM
-1. Many of them are. He is very outdated.
but still worth reading (for the time being) till you make that wiky ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:06:16 PM
Ok...One of us is missing something here.  Walk into a bank...get an account with them with your passport get an IL CC with them...got to the cell company and get the plan with your IL CC that you got from you IL bank account that you opened up with just you American passport   :D
. But u have to add that these cell companies will not take passports anymore (i don't think - thats why i have been giving my muchedet/tz number)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:06:40 PM
Gal - you can go with orange.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:07:08 PM
???
You dont need a TZ to get a plan with them...BUT they require a deposit that gets returned when you cancel the service.  If you have a TZ you dont need to give this deposit.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:07:26 PM
Mm - I was stating not asking.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:07:55 PM
Gal - you can go with orange.
Why would he? :o  His HOT plan sounds better
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:09:58 PM
Why would he? :o  His HOT plan sounds better
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:11:17 PM
Mm - he will have to get a tz no?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:12:08 PM
Gal - you can go with orange.
Again, I'm a guy, not a gal.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:13:41 PM
Guy - sorry no offence intended.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:14:11 PM
Mm - he will have to get a tz no?
who is he? Galitzyaner? He already has HOT.

Again, I'm a guy, not a gal.
lol
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:15:41 PM
Guy - they printed you a legit looking tz?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 06:15:49 PM
Ok...One of us is missing something here.  Walk into a bank...get an account with them with your passport get an IL CC with them...go to the cell company and get the plan with your IL CC that you got from you IL bank account that you opened up with just you American passport   :D
i know that you can get a cc that way,but i was under the impression that it didn't work for the cell comp ,dos anyone have any more info on this
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:17:05 PM
i know that you can get a cc that way,but i was under the impression that it didn't work for the cell comp ,dos anyone have any more info on this
. But u have to add that these cell companies will not take passports anymore (i don't think - thats why i have been giving my muchedet/tz number)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
Mm, guy - my bad I thought you were still looking for a plan when you asked what else you can do...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
Mm - he will have to get a tz no?
We're going in circles with you, and you're making me dizzy already.  If you read the past hour of posts, everything should be clear.  Sorry, thanks.
Guy - sorry no offence intended.
No offense taken  ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:18:36 PM
i know that you can get a cc that way,but i was under the impression that it didn't work for the cell comp ,dos anyone have any more info on this
Yes. It works.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:19:15 PM
Az  - if you get a cc that way good. But you still need a tz  for the cell companies.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:19:22 PM
We're going in circles with you, and you're making me dizzy already.  If you read the past hour of posts, everything should be clear.  Sorry, thanks.
+1
Like I said...
You got to follow the thread  :P
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
Yes. It works.
ur very wrong. At least with golan cellcom hmobile 012mobile and pelephone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:20:42 PM
. But u have to add that these cell companies will not take passports anymore (i don't think - thats why i have been giving my muchedet/tz number)
But we're not talking about cell companies taking PP, we're talking about the bank.
The Cell companies take the Israeli CC which the bank gives you with your american PP.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:21:19 PM
ur very wrong. At least with golan cellcom hmobile 012mobile and pelephone
Im wrong with the fact that a cell company will allow any bank?  I know they will need other docs that he might not have...But the cell company doesnt know from what bank he has an account with.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:21:37 PM
Guy - I misunderstood you when you asked what else you can do. I thought you wanted another cell...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 06:22:45 PM
But we're not talking about cell companies taking PP, we're talking about the bank.
The Cell companies take the Israeli CC which the bank gives you with your american PP.
thankyou
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:23:49 PM
ur very wrong. At least with golan cellcom hmobile 012mobile and pelephone
Take Pelephone out of the discussion, they want to have nothing to do with foreigners.
They didn't want to even waste their time with me, when I walked into their store in Geulah.  They said, TZ or bye bye.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:24:57 PM
K.  Lets get this straight.  Thise companies need both israeli cc and a TZ!!! (And actually Pelephone said not all israeli banks but my leumi was good)
Pelephone. Golan. Hmobile. 012mobile.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 06:25:50 PM
Im wrong with the fact that a cell company will allow any bank?  I know they will need other docs that he might not have...But the cell company doesnt know from what bank he has an account with.
with a pp you get a student (or whatever) cc,that might be the problem
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:27:52 PM
So lets get clear: orange and cellcom is the only one w/o TZ. Golan, hot, pelephone need?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:28:33 PM
with a pp you get a student (or whatever) cc,that might be the problem
-1 Again
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:28:50 PM
K.  Lets get this straight.  Thise companies need both israeli cc and a TZ!!! (And actually Pelephone said not all israeli banks but my leumi was good)
Pelephone. Golan. Hmobile. 012mobile.
Tell me, who do these Pelephone  ppl think they are?  With all these crazy competition now, they're gonna be all this fussy and picky?  What, like their prices can compare to Hot, 012, Rami Levy, or Golan??  ::)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
Lol  rots  you beat me.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 01, 2013, 06:29:17 PM
Ok...this discussion is going absolutely no where.  Its kinda getting stupid and out of hand.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 06:31:13 PM
bthw i would ask around abt cellcom,i have friends that told me there horror stories abt ending a contract with them
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:32:41 PM
So lets get clear: orange and cellcom is the only one w/o TZ. Golan, hot, pelephone need?
Who said anything about cellcom?  You know that they don't require TZ?
Hot = YMMV
As far as Golan is concerned:
Sorry, shoulda been more specific. When you order online, don't leave it blank; fill in the TZ of your most recent Arab taxi driver, which you get from his receipt. ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2013, 06:33:17 PM
Ok...this discussion is going absolutely no where.  Its kinda getting stupid and out of hand.
Nowhere?  In circles!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:33:52 PM
Az - No need to buy a phone thru them. Get the device elsewhere and you wont have a contract.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:34:56 PM
bthw i would ask around abt cellcom,i have friends that told me there horror stories abt ending a contract with them
yups.  Disastrous.   And why'd i beat u? And Pelephone if im not mistaken is a CDMA carrier they have the Verizon type phones no one can get - and as i asked the guy how much was the plans he said them and of course he said what do u have i said a i maod mitztayer ze bishvil ishti and he kept nudging me and i said i pay 100 shek for unlimited to everything. He said oh ya golan. I can't beat that
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:35:33 PM
Guy - yes I know. Unless they very recently changed.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
Az - No need to buy a phone thru them. Get the device elsewhere and you wont have a contract.
wanna אייפון חמש
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 01, 2013, 06:37:09 PM
Az - No need to buy a phone thru them. Get the device elsewhere and you wont have a contract.
good point,i was told these "stories" abt 3y ago (before the new laws)  :-[
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:37:26 PM
Rots - there are plenty of stores that sell cellcom phones. 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:38:25 PM
Rots - there are plenty of stores that sell cellcom phones.
u can pay basically just as much to buy an iPhone in US as it costs for a kosher phone here
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:41:48 PM
Rots - point?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
Rots - point?
buy one in America.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 01, 2013, 06:44:50 PM
Rot - Ok. But will only work on not kosher plan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 01, 2013, 06:46:01 PM
Rot - Ok. But will only work on not kosher plan.
ok
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 01:56:01 AM
Please stop with this guys, gals expression.
Orange and Cellcom, you can officially get with a passport. HOT is YMMV in store. All the rest not, but you might be able to play around with TZ numbers when ordering online.
I would not recommend cellcom as they dont have good plans, and they like your credit card too much....
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 02, 2013, 04:09:12 AM
Pelephone can be gotten online with fake TZ number, and US CC no problem
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on January 02, 2013, 07:04:42 AM
Can anyone give me a number to call Hot Mobile in Israel that's not an 800 number? I found one on their site but no picks up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 08:08:32 AM
Hot: from israel phone *6053 or
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on January 02, 2013, 08:19:08 AM
Hot: from israel phone *6053 or

I am trying to call from the States, but thanks.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on January 02, 2013, 08:24:20 AM
everyone is now is requiring it!

Dont know about now, but in the summer Cellcom told me will be good with Passport, US CC. Only need a ISL to ship to.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 09:58:20 AM
Sky - 5003000053
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 02, 2013, 10:31:08 AM
I went to orange today. The plan is 135 a month plus a 34 bb charge plus 90 for the sim. You can't cancel for 3 months but you can freeze it for 2 months (no charge) then cancel it. There was  a 500 shekel deposit that they refund you when you cancel the plan.  All in all a little more expensive and the deposit sucks but I went to the one on amus and they were extremely helpful and speak full English. I think it's worth the extra $ if you don't want to go around Jerusalem to find a phone that they don't require Israeli stuff.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on January 02, 2013, 10:31:48 AM
Sky - 5003000053

Thanks!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mclovin on January 02, 2013, 10:43:31 AM
wiki'd
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 10:53:09 AM
I went to orange today. The plan is 135 a month plus a 34 bb charge plus 90 for the sim. You can't cancel for 3 months but you can freeze it for 2 months (no charge) then cancel it.
totally against the law , they are not allowed to do that and can be fined alot if they do. You may cancel a from a minute after you made the plan.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 10:55:53 AM
I think it's worth the extra $ if you don't want to go around Jerusalem to find a phone that they don't require Israeli stuff.
+1
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 02, 2013, 10:56:23 AM
I am trying to call from the States, but thanks.
Keep in mind, the number @brisker have you is a 05=Mobile, so prepare to spend $10+++ just waiting on hold!!

When I asked them if they have any normal land line number to reach them at, answer was they have a "special number to call from chu"l", its *4444, but I'd assume they mean you have to use your Hot mobile sim card...
I went to orange today. The plan is 135 a month plus a 34 bb charge plus 90 for the sim. You can't cancel for 3 months but you can freeze it for 2 months (no charge) then cancel it. There was  a 500 shekel deposit that they refund you when you cancel the plan.  All in all a little more expensive and the deposit sucks but I went to the one on amus and they were extremely helpful and speak full English. I think it's worth the extra $ if you don't want to go around Jerusalem to find a phone that they don't require Israeli stuff.
Aren't contracts illegal now?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 10:56:49 AM
wiki'd
ALOL
I love it!  ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mclovin on January 02, 2013, 10:58:29 AM
ALOL
I love it!  ;D
im hoping now that i actually started it people will edit rule #2
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 02, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
im hoping now that i actually started it people will edit rule #2
Fix it a little
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 02, 2013, 11:01:59 AM
totally against the law , they are not allowed to do that and can be fined alot if they do. You may cancel a from a minute after you made the plan.
She told me that she will get into trouble if I cancel it after 3 weeks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 11:14:17 AM
She told me that she will get into trouble if I cancel it after 3 weeks
what she told you was illegal, so edit it out of the wiki. And in fact you can freeze for up to 12 months with no charge, just unfreeze upon return. Charges are charged prorated.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 02, 2013, 11:16:37 AM
what she told you was illegal.
So I could cancel right away
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 11:17:52 AM
So I could cancel right away
yup, see above.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 11:18:23 AM
So I could cancel right away
You should definitely try to before you leave.  Worst comes to worst freeze it and call in a few months to cancel.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 02, 2013, 11:21:05 AM
what she told you was illegal, so edit it out of the wiki. And in fact you can freeze for up to 12 months with no charge, just unfreeze upon return. Charges are charged prorated.
Not if I want the deposit back
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
Not if I want the deposit back
Why not? If the law is you can cancel right away then they need to give you back the deposit
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 02, 2013, 11:27:43 AM
what she told you was illegal, so edit it out of the wiki. And in fact you can freeze for up to 12 months with no charge, just unfreeze upon return. Charges are charged prorated.
A) Is "freezing" also a legal entitlement?
B) Are they even allowed to take a "deposit"?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MEIR613 on January 02, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
Why not? If the law is you can cancel right away then they need to give you back the deposit

what she told you was illegal, so edit it out of the wiki. And in fact you can freeze for up to 12 months with no charge, just unfreeze upon return. Charges are charged prorated.

Not if I want the deposit back
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 11:57:24 AM
Meir - the 135
I went to orange today. The plan is 135 a month plus a 34 bb charge plus 90 for the sim. You can't cancel for 3 months but you can freeze it for 2 months (no charge) then cancel it. There was  a 500 shekel deposit that they refund you when you cancel the plan.  All in all a little more expensive and the deposit sucks but I went to the one on amus and they were extremely helpful and speak full English. I think it's worth the extra $ if you don't want to go around Jerusalem to find a phone that they don't require Israeli stuff.
addition

135 is for 1gb and international
There is also a 125 for 500mb without international

And I was informed multiple times that bb is 39.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 12:00:36 PM
Meir - the 135addition

135 is for 1gb and international
There is also a 125 for 500mb without international

And I was informed multiple times that bb is 39.
Hey look who quoted  :P

IMHO spending ten nis more is so much better for what you get. Also the bb charge coudlve changed several times already since last time you asked...like everything else in Israel that changes.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: momo613 on January 02, 2013, 12:00:51 PM
Old thread. Looking for updated info. Does anybody know the best way to go for a short term rental? Buy Prepaid sim card? Rent a sim? Where? I need a microsim for a galaxy s3! Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
@mmermss - I actually got off the phone to confirm it one minute before I posted.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 12:34:23 PM
@mmermss - I actually got off the phone to confirm it one minute before I posted.
Interesting... ???
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 12:37:17 PM
A) Is "freezing" also a legal entitlement?
B) Are they even allowed to take a "deposit"?
a) its a service from Orange
b) yes
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 12:38:20 PM
Meir - the 135addition

135 is for 1gb and international
There is also a 125 for 500mb without international

And I was informed multiple times that bb is 39.
there is also 105 without international, for students. Not hard to get.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 02, 2013, 12:43:33 PM
a) its a service from Orange
b) yes
Thanks.  I'm assuming that while it's frozen you don't pay anything, correct?
there is also 105 without international, for students. Not hard to get.
What do you get with the 105?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 12:44:25 PM
there is also 105 without international, for students. Not hard to get.
what do you need?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 12:45:04 PM
there is also 105 without international, for students. Not hard to get.
How much data?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Thanks.  I'm assuming that while it's frozen you don't pay anything, correct?
yes.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on January 02, 2013, 12:53:48 PM
yes.
How much will cost me BB service by all the companies? Except orange, That i know!
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 12:56:39 PM
Old thread. Looking for updated info. Does anybody know the best way to go for a short term rental? Buy Prepaid sim card? Rent a sim? Where? I need a microsim for a galaxy s3! Thanks
Although this thread is technically the right thread to post your question is.  However, this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=139.0) thread will give you more info and you might receive an answer faster because more people check it out.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: Got a clue on January 02, 2013, 01:02:07 PM
Guy in Mir offers phone for 4 bucks a day unlimited everything... 0527635215
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 01:02:21 PM
How much will cost me BB service by all the companies? Except orange, That i know!
Hot doesn't support BB. And IIRC golan doesn't either.
Title: Re: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 02, 2013, 01:08:04 PM
Guy in Mir offers phone for 4 bucks a day unlimited everything... 0527635215
Ok, and I'm offering for $20 a day ::)

Y'know what, as a matter of fact, I'm such a nice guy I'll even throw in free international calling!
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 01:15:48 PM
Ok, and I'm offering for $20 a day ::)

Y'know what, as a matter of fact, I'm such a nice guy I'll even throw in free international calling!
whats the problem? Its a service.
Title: Re: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 01:20:22 PM
Ok, and I'm offering for $20 a day ::)

Y'know what, as a matter of fact, I'm such a nice guy I'll even throw in free international calling!
Pick me at $19 a day  :P
Title: Re: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 02, 2013, 01:25:45 PM
whats the problem? Its a service.
No problem, go ahead, get ripped off! :P

The most amazing part that always gets at me, is the way they present it like its some metzia ;D
Title: Re: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 01:26:52 PM
No problem, go ahead, get ripped off! :P

The most amazing part that always gets at me, is the way they present it like its some metzia ;D
Thats nothing...I know someone who paid $150 for a sim...for two weeks!  :o
Title: Re: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 02, 2013, 01:31:49 PM
Thats nothing...I know someone who paid $150 for a sim...for two weeks!  :o
LOL!  :D
whats the problem? Its a service.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 02:02:41 PM
The student plan is 109 with 2gb data, and 119 with 5gb data. It can work with a paper from yeshiva YMMV.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 02:04:34 PM
Does Orange allow you to pay more money and theyll add on more gb of data to the 3 for 270 plan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: 972sg212 on January 02, 2013, 02:15:21 PM
The student plan is 109 with 2gb data, and 119 with 5gb data. It can work with a paper from yeshiva YMMV.

Does it work with a student visa ?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 02:46:43 PM
Does it work with a student visa ?
all these things can be tried.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 03:50:01 PM
No problem, go ahead, get ripped off! :P

The most amazing part that always gets at me, is the way they present it like its some metzia ;D
Do you complain when the mechanic charges you to fix your flat too?
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 03:55:50 PM
Do you complain when the mechanic charges you to fix your flat too?
:o
If he charged me double what the guy down the block charges then yes...I would complain (or just not go to him)
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 03:58:43 PM
:o
If he charged me double what the guy down the block charges then yes...I would complain (or just not go to him)
Who do you know that RENTS for cheaper?
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 04:00:38 PM
Who do you know that RENTS for cheaper?
Me  :P
But it seems like I can up my price if people are paying that.
Title: Re: Cellphone rental in Israel - short term 10 days
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 04:04:55 PM
Me  :P
But it seems like I can up my price if people are paying that.
What price are you renting for?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 02, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
The student plan is 109 with 2gb data, and 119 with 5gb data. It can work with a paper from yeshiva YMMV.
Which company are you referring to?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 02, 2013, 04:20:25 PM
Which company are you referring to?
Orange
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yosseld on January 02, 2013, 05:56:13 PM
Here's a way I found to get a HOT sim card which costs just 100 NIS within a few hours without being Israeli yourself:

1) Find someone who carries a Teudat Zehut.
2) Call HOT and order a sim card with that persons info and TZ number. Make sure to tell them that YOU (not the owner) would like to pick it up in-store at the location of your choice. Your sim card should be ready immediately.
3) Go to the said store and pick up your sim card.

Note: The owner of the Teudat Zehut does NOT have to be present. Tried and tested...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 02, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
Here's a way I found to get a HOT sim card which costs just 100 NIS within a few hours without being Israeli yourself:

1) Find someone who carries a Teudat Zehut.
2) Call HOT and order a sim card with that persons info and TZ number. Make sure to tell them that YOU (not the owner) would like to pick it up in-store at the location of your choice. Your sim card should be ready immediately.
3) Go to the said store and pick up your sim card.

Note: The owner of the Teudat Zehut does NOT have to be present. Tried and tested...
thanks!  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 05:58:24 PM
I wouldn't lend out my TZ if I had one. (-;
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 06:00:34 PM
I don't get it. Was this thread merged with the rental thread?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 02, 2013, 06:03:11 PM
I don't get it. Was this thread merged with the rental thread?
Yes
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yosseld on January 02, 2013, 06:03:53 PM
thanks!  ;)
My pleasure :)
I wouldn't lend out my TZ if I had one. (-;
TZ numbers are not the same as SS numbers in the US as they aren't as useful without the actual card. Israelis carry their TZ with them most of the time anyways.

But I'm with you. Prob not worth the risk..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 02, 2013, 06:10:05 PM
@yosseld - I am aware that it's not the same, but still...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 02, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
TZ numbers are not the same as SS numbers in the US as they aren't as useful without the actual card. Israelis carry their TZ with them most of the time anyways.

But I'm with you. Prob not worth the risk..

If the account is on the persons TZ number he is liable if you don't pay, and he is liable if the company decides you owe them 5000 shekel for no reason. And yes it's happened
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 02, 2013, 10:29:17 PM
If the account is on the persons TZ number he is liable if you don't pay, and he is liable if the company decides you owe them 5000 shekel for no reason. And yes it's happened
Hence the batchy solution ;D
When you order online, don't leave it blank; fill in the TZ of your most recent Arab taxi driver, which you get from his receipt. ;D
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 03, 2013, 02:33:01 AM
Hence the batchy solution ;D

As I was reading the last few posts, I was rolling my eyes, and moaning inwardly that I would have to deal with digging up my post and quoting it. Thanks for sparing me the effort. :)
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 03, 2013, 03:34:23 AM
As I was reading the last few posts, I was rolling my eyes, and moaning inwardly that I would have to deal with digging up my post and quoting it. Thanks for sparing me the effort. :)
pls find  :)
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 03, 2013, 03:47:14 AM
pls find  :)

Are you serious?! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=139.msg379087#msg379087) :o
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 03, 2013, 06:44:45 AM
Are you serious?! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=139.msg379087#msg379087) :o

Hey just bec u have to start walking now dont get upset at me   ;D ;D.  I just wanted to know what mehalach u had
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 03, 2013, 07:31:43 AM
Hey just bec u have to start walking now dont get upset at me   ;D ;D.  I just wanted to know what mehalach u had
Untrue. i25 seen in parking lot today. We're taking bets on when it goes back
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 03, 2013, 08:45:54 AM
Does anyone know what plan Orange provides now?
I just saw a nice plan on Golan so I am looking to switch. Question is whether Orange can beat or has simliar plans?

I hesitate to get Golan only bc they are relatively new and I don't know how the reception is at where I live.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 03, 2013, 08:53:31 AM
Does anyone know what plan Orange provides now?
I just saw a nice plan on Golan so I am looking to switch. Question is whether Orange can beat or has simliar plans?

I hesitate to get Golan only bc they are relatively new and I don't know how the reception is at where I live.

Thanks
Do you have a TZ and Israeli CC? Golan requires that to sign up
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 09:12:13 AM
Why no Golan info in the wiki?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 03, 2013, 09:17:56 AM
Why no Golan info in the wiki?
Paging rots5
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 03, 2013, 09:34:29 AM
Done
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 03, 2013, 09:47:51 AM
Miracle - Why not review the wiki?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on January 03, 2013, 12:48:55 PM
Isn't hot special only for porting number and for first 4 months
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 03, 2013, 01:08:04 PM
Emkay - I think so too
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 03, 2013, 01:51:55 PM
Isn't hot special only for porting number and for first 4 months
It is. but truthfully you can buy prepaid sims for 10 shekel and than move over.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 03, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
Quote
Miracle - Why not review the wiki?

I couldn't find anything about Golan in Wiki...

Quote
Do you have a TZ and Israeli CC? Golan requires that to sign up

Yes, I have both.

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 03, 2013, 02:03:48 PM
Quote
porting number

What's a porting number?

It is. but truthfully you can buy prepaid sims for 10 shekel and than move over.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 03, 2013, 02:08:28 PM
What's a porting number?
Bringing an existing number from another cell phone company to the new one and use that number
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 03, 2013, 04:11:46 PM
Anything for the tourist?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 03, 2013, 04:24:39 PM
Bringing an existing number from another cell phone company to the new one and use that number

Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on January 03, 2013, 04:32:42 PM
Take Pelephone out of the discussion, they want to have nothing to do with foreigners.
They didn't want to even waste their time with me, when I walked into their store in Geulah.  They said, TZ or bye bye.
You can actually get from them through Bezeq.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Menucha on January 03, 2013, 07:54:19 PM
rented travelcell which uses cellcome network. not sure if network was bad or phone was bad, it was a disaster. spent a fortune, and only conversations I had was I cant hear you". was a bad experience.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 03, 2013, 07:57:09 PM
Bad pohone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 03, 2013, 08:26:05 PM
It is. but truthfully you can buy prepaid sims for 10 shekel and than move over.
Buy where? 
Every sim automatically comes with a phone number, even w/o activation??!
You can actually get from them through Bezeq.
Get what?  Where?  How? Why?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 04, 2013, 05:05:01 AM
Buy where? 
Every sim automatically comes with a phone number, even w/o activation??
Many stores some charge more or less, davidka area. Yes.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 04, 2013, 05:35:23 AM
Many stores some charge more or less, davidka area. Yes.
Good to know, thanks.

Do they also sell Hot sim cards for 10 shekels, instead of paying Hot 39?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 04, 2013, 06:28:36 AM
Prepaid sims will not work for a regular rate plan. (at least it is like that with orange)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 04, 2013, 07:05:01 AM
Good to know, thanks.

Do they also sell Hot sim cards for 10 shekels, instead of paying Hot 39?
no only prepaid. In most shops they are 20-40 shekel, but some have them for 10
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 04, 2013, 07:05:33 AM
Prepaid sims will not work for a regular rate plan. (at least it is like that with orange)
what are you referring to?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on January 04, 2013, 07:26:31 AM
Get what?  Where?  How? Why?
Bezeq offers plans for mobile from Pelephone, basically you only have to do with Bezeq and you get a plan from Pelephone. It's good for foreigners if you davka want Pelephone.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 04, 2013, 07:53:45 AM
Bezeq offers plans for mobile from Pelephone, basically you only have to do with Bezeq and you get a plan from Pelephone. It's good for foreigners if you davka want Pelephone.
Just askin', why would anyone 'davka' want Pelephone?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 04, 2013, 07:57:41 AM
Just askin', why would anyone 'davka' want Pelephone?
lav davka
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 05, 2013, 11:51:32 AM
Just askin', why would anyone 'davka' want Pelephone?

Speed.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 05, 2013, 12:34:24 PM
Speed.
More than orange or celcom?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: dealer on January 05, 2013, 02:48:28 PM
Anyone know where i could rent a mifi in Israel?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 05, 2013, 02:52:05 PM
Bezeq offers plans for mobile from Pelephone, basically you only have to do with Bezeq and you get a plan from Pelephone. It's good for foreigners if you davka want Pelephone.
Foreigners can get Pelephone from their site
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 08, 2013, 02:03:37 PM
The new budget companies really dont want anything to do with us foreigners.
I tried everything to sign up to 012mobile, first of all, the system realises any fake TZ, meuchedet BL etc, but even if you pass that part, the credit card must match the TZ. so no go with them unfortunately.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on January 08, 2013, 02:58:36 PM
I need to get bb service for a week for a family member coming to isreal. Whos the cheapest
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on January 08, 2013, 04:10:07 PM
Anyone have a UNLIMITED+ international micro sim in jerusalem available  to rent for a week, starting asap
please pm
thanx
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shiframeir on January 08, 2013, 04:16:10 PM
anyone know if bbm (blackberry messenger) works in israel, and whether it is considered data (as opposed to text messaging for cost)?

to explain, i am using my at&t US phone in Israel with a special data supplement per mb (120mb for $30) but texts cost 50 cents and calls are much more.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sawlw on January 08, 2013, 04:20:06 PM
anyone know if bbm (blackberry messenger) works in israel, and whether it is considered data (as opposed to text messaging for cost)?

to explain, i am using my at&t US phone in Israel with a special data supplement per mb (120mb for $30) but texts cost 50 cents and calls are much more.

bbm work on data
and is free on wifi too
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: cozmohoot on January 08, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
bbm work on data
and is free on wifi too
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sky121 on January 08, 2013, 06:01:20 PM
Anyone have any advice?

Been trying to get a hold of Hot Mobile to switch my plan over to the 10 shekel plan and they keep transferring me to the right department and I've just been on hold for an hour multiple times.

The rep I first get to WON'T help me out.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 09, 2013, 05:17:22 AM
I'm trying to get GOLAN however, they have this warning: Please  note: Numbers that cannot be ported (transferred):  resellers (Annatel, Tavor, Pitronot Tikshoret, Korlander Sherutei Nehiga or others) and numbers that are not owned by you.

I have had Orange for almost 8 years. Does that mean the number is owned by me? I don't know what the above means so I don't know what is owned by me or not.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 09, 2013, 05:44:10 AM
I'm trying to get GOLAN however, they have this warning: Please  note: Numbers that cannot be ported (transferred):  resellers (Annatel, Tavor, Pitronot Tikshoret, Korlander Sherutei Nehiga or others) and numbers that are not owned by you.

I have had Orange for almost 8 years. Does that mean the number is owned by me? I don't know what the above means so I don't know what is owned by me or not.

Thanks
its fine. you can port.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 09, 2013, 06:33:00 AM
its fine. you can port.

Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 09, 2013, 07:25:43 AM
Anyone have any advice?

Been trying to get a hold of Hot Mobile to switch my plan over to the 10 shekel plan and they keep transferring me to the right department and I've just been on hold for an hour multiple times.

The rep I first get to WON'T help me out.
weird. Ask them which is the correct dept.
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 09, 2013, 10:18:28 AM
Anyone have any advice?

Been trying to get a hold of Hot Mobile to switch my plan over to the 10 shekel plan and they keep transferring me to the right department and I've just been on hold for an hour multiple times.

The rep I first get to WON'T help me out.
Insane.  Now imagine we who have to call them from the US, how much the call winds up costing from calling their 05 number (=mobile) and waiting on hold for unpredictable amounts of time.
Even worse when you're half hour in, and the call is terminated because you don't have sufficient balance in your GV acct!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: kingsfan33 on January 10, 2013, 12:51:33 AM
does anyone know if a prepaid orange sim expires?
my preliminary search on the web shows it expires after 12 months of non-use. but i would like confirmation from someone that knows first hand.
thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 10, 2013, 01:07:41 AM
does anyone know if a prepaid orange sim expires?
my preliminary search on the web shows it expires after 12 months of non-use. but i would like confirmation from someone that knows first hand.
thanks
yes it does after 12 months
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: satturn on January 10, 2013, 01:35:31 PM
dont know if this has been mentioned- but hot stopped their 10 agurot plan. Now the only other option is a 10 shekel plan. Kill the whole buy it and use it when you travel here. Anyone want to update the wiki?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 10, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
dont know if this has been mentioned- but hot stopped their 10 agurot plan. Now the only other option is a 10 shekel plan. Kill the whole buy it and use it when you travel here. Anyone want to update the wiki?
Whats the 10 shekel plan?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 10, 2013, 04:02:25 PM
Whats the 10 shekel plan?
NIS 10 a month
 Only 10 agorot per minute, text and 1MB of surfing for only
10 NIS a month.
50 minutes included
50 texts included
10MB data included
10 minutes of international calls to 30 countries included

copied from - https://www.hotmobile.co.il/HOTmobile_en/Pages/Programs-and-sales.aspx
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 10, 2013, 07:08:26 PM
i heard that this "012mobile -  44₪ for the first 6 months and 88₪ from there on after for unlimited everything too. need a TZ and CC" deal
might become limited because of high demand . anyone hear anything about this?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Menucha on January 10, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
best plan for unlimited calls only? inc USA.

No need sms, internet.

TIA
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on January 10, 2013, 11:05:35 PM
best plan for unlimited calls only? inc USA.

No need sms, internet.

TIA

tough question O:-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 11, 2013, 12:25:58 AM
Right now Golan has a plan for 50 sheks a month for first 6 months to new porters. Unlimited calls within Israel, 53 countries, sms, and internet g3...
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 11, 2013, 02:58:34 AM
best plan for unlimited calls only? inc USA.

No need sms, internet.

TIA
i forgot the search button on ur computer doesnt  work ....DAN!!, BAhayman!!....menucha's ddf page is broken!!!!!

ok here we go again!
so a while ago, i am not sure who, thought of an idea that we should have a post it note at the top of every main subject. we like to call them wiki's. menucha since ur a big asker ill ask for you...why rots5 do we have wikis? lemme tell you, and from now on stop asking and search. wikis are there for the most important notes on that topic, they are posted to the top of every topic (thread) to help people who have questions, even people with less questions than you! on the top right of the thread, you will find a little + sign. click it. you click (asumming ur a righty - theough being a lefty would make a lot of sense) with ur right index finger on the mouse top left. and there will drop down a whole WIKI or important notes in the topic. for example if you were to go to the wiki on this topic you willl find 012mobile has the best deals for your question: or you would pick up the darn phone and call cellcom and then compare. sounds pretty easy so far, right? k good, then when ur finished with all this you click here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=logout;d27e8c677=1f874ca359f9fe769d688d138189f0fd) and your good to go!

key for menucha:
thread = topic
golan, 012mobile, cellcom = phone services in israel
wiki = notes
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 11, 2013, 03:49:38 AM
i forgot the search button on ur computer doesnt  work ....DAN!!, BAhayman!!....menucha's ddf page is broken!!!!!

ok here we go again!
so a while ago, i am not sure who, thought of an idea that we should have a post it note at the top of every main subject. we like to call them wiki's. menucha since ur a big asker ill ask for you...why rots5 do we have wikis? lemme tell you, and from now on stop asking and search. wikis are there for the most important notes on that topic, they are posted to the top of every topic (thread) to help people who have questions, even people with less questions than you! on the top right of the thread, you will find a little + sign. click it. you click (asumming ur a righty - theough being a lefty would make a lot of sense) with ur right index finger on the mouse top left. and there will drop down a whole WIKI or important notes in the topic. for example if you were to go to the wiki on this topic you willl find 012mobile has the best deals for your question: or you would pick up the darn phone and call cellcom and then compare. sounds pretty easy so far, right? k good, then when ur finished with all this you click here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?action=logout;d27e8c677=1f874ca359f9fe769d688d138189f0fd) and your good to go!

key for menucha:
thread = topic
golan, 012mobile, cellcom = phone services in israel
wiki = notes

it seams to me that he was asking about kosher type of plan, which wasn't really talked about,
but i agree , their are so many posts that sometimes its hard for someone new to find what they are looking for (and then we get more posts...)
also allot of people never used a forum before,
 maybe all the "Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite++++++++'s" can think of ways to fix that,something that people like mmermss are doing (trying to help people in a nice way :P ),
just a thought, thanks to everyone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Miracle on January 11, 2013, 04:35:08 AM
it seams to me that he was asking about kosher type of plan, which wasn't really talked about,
but i agree , their are so many posts that sometimes its hard for someone new to find what they are looking for (and then we get more posts...)
also allot of people never used a forum before,
 maybe all the "Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite++++++++'s" can think of ways to fix that,something that people like mmermss are doing (trying to help people in a nice way :P ),
just a thought, thanks to everyone

You said this very respectfully, kudos!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 11, 2013, 05:13:03 AM
it seams to me that he was asking about kosher type of plan, which wasn't really talked about,
but i agree , their are so many posts that sometimes its hard for someone new to find what they are looking for (and then we get more posts...)
also allot of people never used a forum before,
 maybe all the "Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite++++++++'s" can think of ways to fix that,something that people like mmermss are doing (trying to help people in a nice way :P ),
just a thought, thanks to everyone

yes very well said and im sorry for being so harsh and not nice @menucha im sorry for being so mean; but mmerms has done a wonderful job at being so nice linking everything at all times (you guys missed sky121 in his prime he was litt the biggest tzadik out there) - me...i got sick of it a little - its ok to start a new thread as a first or timer or with in your first 20 posts but to start 6 new topics which were already discussed before in only 51 posts thats a bit much, and dont get me wrong i was nice and i still am! but its not nice to come here and start thinking you can do what you want bec you want to, there is a decorum on this forum and its getting ppl sick to see it just being thrown out the window - ok ppl make mistakes, or dont even know the first few times, but its getting out of hand - at least say it in a nice way - along the lines of - i know its been discussed, but can someone explain to me.....

i am a noob STILL on this forum and i too ask dumb questions but please just search as it has been stated numerous times to menucha and so on.

and once i again i am sorry for making it all laitzanus
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: az on January 11, 2013, 05:32:40 AM
maybe its time for a "sticky-wiki :) "  reading: "pleas read before posting on DansDeals" or something, on the top of the forums (or every page),
and in it should have all of thees requests that people should follow!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 11, 2013, 05:37:02 AM
maybe its time for a "sticky-wiki :) "  reading: "pleas read before posting on DansDeals" or something, on the top of the forums (or every page),
and in it should have all of thees requests that people should follow!

see now ur talking! :-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 11, 2013, 06:01:25 AM
hey guys, Menucha said she (or he) doesn't know why people are always nasty here, and that she likes dealing with people from Amazon better. (and the social security for the apartment)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on January 12, 2013, 01:19:36 PM
Can rentals in isreal be added to the wiki if anyone knows about them
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 12, 2013, 01:32:18 PM
Can rentals in isreal be added to the wiki if anyone knows about them
welcome to the forums!
you should probably put your request here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1211.1155
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 12, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
dont know if this has been mentioned- but hot stopped their 10 agurot plan. Now the only other option is a 10 shekel plan. Kill the whole buy it and use it when you travel here. Anyone want to update the wiki?
-1
no need to update the wiki. Its alive and kicking.
https://www.hotmobile.co.il/programs/Pages/PAYU.aspx
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 12, 2013, 01:55:08 PM
welcome to the forums!
you should probably put your request here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1211.1155

i think u miss read CAN rentals not car rentals and yes mmerms and i will try to write it up
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Emkay on January 12, 2013, 02:50:30 PM
i think u miss read CAN rentals not car rentals and yes mmerms and i will try to write it up
Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: charlied on January 13, 2013, 02:38:36 PM
Is there anybody that can give a clear answer as to what the best sim card in israel for iphones with a data plan??

TIA
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 13, 2013, 02:44:52 PM
Is there anybody that can give a clear answer as to what the best sim card in israel for iphones with a data plan??

TIA
Did you try the wiki?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: charlied on January 13, 2013, 03:05:28 PM
how do i get to the wiki?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 13, 2013, 03:12:48 PM
how do i get to the wiki?
On the top of the page you'll see it says wiki. On the right there's a plus sign. Click it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: charlied on January 13, 2013, 03:23:48 PM
thanks.
but it dosnt seem to be discussing tourist sim cards? only long term.
do u know anything about short term tourist plans that are reasonable?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 13, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
i read the whole entire thread only a few times do ppl talk about porting - is there a way (even thru some guy in davidka lol) to port a kosher number?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on January 13, 2013, 06:09:02 PM
i read the whole entire thread only a few times do ppl talk about porting - is there a way (even thru some guy in davidka lol) to port a kosher number?
Sure! Like any regular number. (Worked for me from Orange to Cellcom)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 13, 2013, 06:14:03 PM
Rot - Port to which company?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 13, 2013, 06:16:05 PM
Rot - Port to which company?

well i would love to stick to golan (wife has cllcom). i dont think i was clear. sorry. i want to port my wife kosher number and make it non-kosher.
i then tried with 012mobile but i cant get to the next page. and golan says that i cant port the kosher number - to non kosher
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on January 13, 2013, 06:19:49 PM
well i would love to stick to golan (wife has cllcom). i dont think i was clear. sorry. i want to port my wife kosher number and make it non-kosher.
i then tried with 012mobile but i cant get to the next page. and golan says that i cant port the kosher number - to non kosher

You can't change it to a non-kosher number.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 13, 2013, 06:26:25 PM
You can't change it to a non-kosher number.

lol. this i know is what is said! i know ppl who have done it, just no sure if they got lucky or they paid the right price
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 13, 2013, 06:28:11 PM
lol. this i know is what is said! i know ppl who have done it, just no sure if they got lucky or they paid the right price
I heard it can be done but then you would not be able to text.  To whoever knows forsure...Please CMIIW.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 13, 2013, 06:52:19 PM
Rot - Don't think so. It's two different markets! ;-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 13, 2013, 07:13:21 PM
lol. this i know is what is said! i know ppl who have done it, just no sure if they got lucky or they paid the right price

http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=130542
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 14, 2013, 12:56:11 AM
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=130542
things have changed since than, AFAIK, it's not possible to port kosher numbers anymore to golan. It's  part of the kosher cellphone marketing mafia, amongst others  ;)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 14, 2013, 12:58:35 AM
i then tried with 012mobile but i cant get to the next page
that's because it's not possible to sign up with 012 without a valid TZ AND matching TZ CC.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2013, 01:42:32 AM
things have changed since than, AFAIK, it's not possible to port kosher numbers anymore to golan. It's  part of the kosher cellphone marketing mafia, amongst others  ;)

I know. But the people that rots5 was talking about may have "done" it then.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 14, 2013, 02:21:55 AM
that's because it's not possible to sign up with 012 without a valid TZ AND matching TZ CC.
its just the simple getting to that page that wasnt working. try it. i couldnt even get to the page to fill in info
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 14, 2013, 06:39:20 AM
its just the simple getting to that page that wasnt working. try it. i couldnt even get to the page to fill in info
its working fine. but will not let you sign up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 14, 2013, 06:43:04 AM
its working fine. but will not let you sign up.
its not letting me get to the page to enter the personal information
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 14, 2013, 09:01:50 AM
that's because it's not possible to sign up with 012 without a valid TZ AND matching TZ CC.
Just wondering, how do they (the computer) decide how my name is supposed to be spelled in english?
Hot mobile only got my "name" in Hebrew... ;D
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 14, 2013, 05:52:43 PM
question: i thought of something. my wife just got a new phone here in israel. she has until now a kosher cellcom phone. now she needs a data plan for work. so that means im gonna do golan, bec i also have it. they ave the 49 shek plans but for only for ppl who port a number. but if u start a new its 100 shek a month. so i was wondering... i have a friend who is leaving israel for good on tues, (next week) can i take his orange sim card number port it to golan, then get the 49 shek plan...is there something i am missing with this? obvioulsy he will cancel his line the day before he leaves anyways
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 14, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
Rot - you can do that, but ht wont work if you cancel beforehand. It will cancel automatically after
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 14, 2013, 06:07:03 PM
I don't understand the issue. They have the special for anyone that has an existing contract with another cellphone company. You probably don't need to port your number to Golan to get the deal.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2013, 06:09:30 PM
I don't understand the issue. They have the special for anyone that has an existing contract with another cellphone company. You probably don't need to port your number to Golan to get the deal.

No, it's specifically for ported numbers.

And rots5, you can do that, but rumor has it you're stuck with that ported number after that. No changing.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 14, 2013, 06:13:40 PM
No, it's specifically for ported numbers.

And rots5, you can do that, but rumor has it you're stuck with that ported number after that. No changing.
obviously - why should i care?

worse comes to worse i can cancel. my real q is what is the catch on orange side. is this guy who is giving me the number going to have to pay for the sim card or some imaginative charge from orange?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 14, 2013, 06:18:08 PM
Rot - I dont tink so, porting out is just like canceling. The sim gets paid for by sign up.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2013, 06:18:29 PM
obviously - why should i care?

worse comes to worse i can cancel. my real q is what is the catch on orange side. is this guy who is giving me the number going to have to pay for the sim card or some imaginative charge from orange?

No.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 14, 2013, 06:20:01 PM
Rot - I dont tink so, porting out is just like canceling. The sim gets paid for by sign up.
you wish, i shut down 2 sep sims with cell com. my first kosher phone, and my second non-kosher (which i ported to golan) and im still paying 5 shek a month for each of my sims
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2013, 06:25:19 PM
you wish, i shut down 2 sep sims with cell com. my first kosher phone, and my second non-kosher (which i ported to golan) and im still paying 5 shek a month for each of my sims

Well, if you chose to pay for it in installments, of course you're still paying.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 14, 2013, 06:26:42 PM
Rot - you asked about orange. Unless there is monthly charges that weren't paid off..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 14, 2013, 06:27:22 PM
Moishe +1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 14, 2013, 06:43:11 PM
Thanks all. 
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2013, 06:51:19 PM
Thanks all.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 15, 2013, 01:32:10 AM
And rots5, you can do that, but rumor has it you're stuck with that ported number after that. No changing.
I think i once said that, but i can now confirm, that you can very easily change your number once your with Golan, online.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 15, 2013, 02:37:41 AM
I think i once said that, but i can now confirm, that you can very easily change your number once your with Golan, online.

That's only once u have golan.  But I want to port a friends number
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: L'Chaim on January 15, 2013, 03:33:46 AM
That's only once u have golan.  But I want to port a friends number
I think that in order to port it need to be under the same name (otherwise you can port anyone's number...).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 15, 2013, 04:45:44 AM
I think that in order to port it need to be under the same name (otherwise you can port anyone's number...).
-1, and shush
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 15, 2013, 04:55:44 AM
-1, and shush
+1. Shhhhhh.   Don't tell anyone :-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 15, 2013, 05:39:25 AM
I think that in order to port it need to be under the same name (otherwise you can port anyone's number...).
no need, you just need that sim while you port, because it will give you an automatic call or text and you need to confirm.

BTW. Hot does not allow to move over to the free plan, it will only let you sign up to that plan when joining initially. But, you can freeze up to three months a year, and an interesting policy they have, it's one freeze per year.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 15, 2013, 09:00:05 AM
Last thing when porting from orange to golan. If the orange phone is a black berry does that make a diff ? I don't want bb service. Wife has an iPhone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 15, 2013, 10:24:46 AM
Last thing when porting from orange to golan. If the orange phone is a black berry does that make a diff ? I don't want bb service. Wife has an iPhone

I did the exact same thing for my wife.  She had BB on cellcon and I moved it to Golan without any issues. She also switched to an iphone with the switch.

Btw, Golan doesn't support BB service as of now anyways.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 15, 2013, 01:06:40 PM
Last thing when porting from orange to golan. If the orange phone is a black berry does that make a diff ? I don't want bb service. Wife has an iPhone
Don't think it makes a difference.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 15, 2013, 02:05:32 PM
Don't think it makes a difference.
nice quote :-).  And thanks. 

And I know theres no bb service
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: shnu on January 15, 2013, 05:02:57 PM
I am interested in renting a cell phone while in Israel.  I am looking for advise on renting in the US vs Israel and which company is best.  Thanks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 15, 2013, 06:37:53 PM
Rot - ;-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 16, 2013, 07:30:21 AM
just went onto my golan account and i see this ... what it mean?

Please note that this month 's billing includes charges for  International Long Distance communications (via 012 Smile and 018 Exphone), for the period of May 15, 2012- November 2012.
The charges are for communication you have used through a different Long Distance carier than Golan Telecom 016.
For questions regarding the billing please contact the International Long Distance carrier you had selected: 012 Smile: *3012 , Exphone: *0018.
To change the International Long Distance carrier - click here.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 16, 2013, 08:20:20 AM
just went onto my golan account and i see this ... what it mean?

Please note that this month 's billing includes charges for  International Long Distance communications (via 012 Smile and 018 Exphone), for the period of May 15, 2012- November 2012.
The charges are for communication you have used through a different Long Distance carier than Golan Telecom 016.
For questions regarding the billing please contact the International Long Distance carrier you had selected: 012 Smile: *3012 , Exphone: *0018.
To change the International Long Distance carrier - click here.
It means you made calls with 012 and 018, instead of 016.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 16, 2013, 08:23:53 AM
just went onto my golan account and i see this ... what it mean?

Please note that this month 's billing includes charges for  International Long Distance communications (via 012 Smile and 018 Exphone), for the period of May 15, 2012- November 2012.
The charges are for communication you have used through a different Long Distance carier than Golan Telecom 016.
For questions regarding the billing please contact the International Long Distance carrier you had selected: 012 Smile: *3012 , Exphone: *0018.
To change the International Long Distance carrier - click here.
I remember that somewhere in the settings page it lets you choose which company to use for outgoing intl calls. Make sure that golan is chosen.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 16, 2013, 08:48:47 AM
i use 001 every time i make out going calls to america
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 16, 2013, 08:51:09 AM
i use 001 every time i make out going calls to america
but you have to make sure in your profile that your carrier is golan, for your international calls. if not it goes thrugh 012 etc which can cost a small fortune.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 16, 2013, 08:51:53 AM
its in my acct that i am using golan, but when i make calls i dial 001
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 16, 2013, 08:54:32 AM
its in my acct that i am using golan, but when i make calls i dial 001
that's fine. do you have extra charges for international calls or just that message?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 16, 2013, 09:06:10 AM
I just saw that message now.  Though i haven't gotten a bill since sept :-)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Wolf on January 16, 2013, 01:04:44 PM
Does anybody know which sprint android phone is unlocked and will work with an israeli sim?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 16, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
its in my acct that i am using golan, but when i make calls i dial 001

Then that means you're doing everything right. Call 'em up if you're getting charged more.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Menucha on January 16, 2013, 02:23:47 PM
ok, for Golan, which iphone version would be best? would others NOT work for Golan?

iphone5 versions available: (3 model numbers)

Cellular and Wireless
GSM model A1428*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 4 and 17)
CDMA model A1429*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 13, 25)
GSM model A1429*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5)
Wifi: 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi (802.11n 2.4GHz and 5GHz)

Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on January 16, 2013, 05:46:04 PM
ok, for Golan, which iphone version would be best? would others NOT work for Golan?

iphone5 versions available: (3 model numbers)

Cellular and Wireless
GSM model A1428*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 4 and 17)
CDMA model A1429*: CDMA EV-DO Rev. A and Rev. B (800, 1900, 2100 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 13, 25)
GSM model A1429*: UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5)
Wifi: 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi (802.11n 2.4GHz and 5GHz)

Thanks

Any
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: chff on January 16, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Has anyone used a Golan sim in a Verizon GSIII?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MAJ on January 17, 2013, 01:58:07 AM
i switched from orange cellphone and bezek home to cellcoms 350 unlimited plan with netvision. i conflicting info from them on whether i still need bezek for internet or bezek ben leumi. anyone know these things?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: sruly101 on January 17, 2013, 06:51:13 AM
Does anyone know the cheapest now for the kosher phones? no need unlimited!

And would love that i should be able to use an old kosher/non kosher phone
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 17, 2013, 07:06:16 AM
Does anyone know the cheapest now for the kosher phones? no need unlimited!

And would love that i should be able to use an old kosher/non kosher phone
the cheapest i have found was 49 shekel for 1200 kosher to kosher min and .09 agurot to non kosher

and if you bring ur phone to davidka thye might be able to get your phone working with kosher
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 17, 2013, 07:21:46 AM
and if you bring ur phone to davidka thye might be able to get your phone working with kosher
it's a restriction on the sim. Try giving the orange guy at the desk a smile and ask if he can give you a sim that will work in any phone.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 17, 2013, 07:23:16 AM
it's a restriction on the sim. Try giving the orange guy at the desk a smile and ask if he can give you a sim that will work in any phone.

interesting... oops  guess i learn new rhings every day :-)

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 07:43:59 AM
I took some pics of some new offers on kosher phone plans from cellCON (for those interested).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: hocker on January 17, 2013, 09:55:12 AM
Orange has student and Chayal specials..
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 17, 2013, 01:29:08 PM
Orange has student and Chayal specials..
not for kosher.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: menashe04 on January 17, 2013, 06:11:28 PM
I'm getting kinda lost in all these pages. If I'm just traveling to Israel for 2 weeks, would It pay to get any such a plan, or just go with any of the Israel phone rentals?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 17, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
I'm getting kinda lost in all these pages. If I'm just traveling to Israel for 2 weeks, would It pay to get any such a plan, or just go with any of the Israel phone rentals?

Look at rule #5 in wiki then look at Orange
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 17, 2013, 06:59:40 PM
mmermss - Orange charges a 500 shek deposit for customers without a TZ.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 17, 2013, 07:02:05 PM
mmermss - Orange charges a 500 shek deposit for customers without a TZ.

Correct...that you get back when canceling.

Dont need any TZ or Israeli CC...coming for two weeks dont think he has any of those
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 17, 2013, 07:09:05 PM
mmermss - Or six months.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 17, 2013, 07:12:57 PM
mmermss - Or six months.


I'm getting kinda lost in all these pages. If I'm just traveling to Israel for 2 weeks, would It pay to get any such a plan, or just go with any of the Israel phone rentals?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: menashe04 on January 17, 2013, 07:35:48 PM

indeed don't have any of those, although I have family in Israel, so I can get it on their name. The only diff between with tz or without is the 500nis deposit? And do they ship to the us?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: mmermss on January 17, 2013, 07:48:19 PM
indeed don't have any of those, although I have family in Israel, so I can get it on their name. The only diff between with tz or without is the 500nis deposit? And do they ship to the us?
Yes.
I really don't think so.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: menashe04 on January 17, 2013, 07:49:25 PM
Ok. But if I can get a tz, then I guess orange isn't the cheapest choice for me
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 17, 2013, 08:13:51 PM
Ok. But if I can get a tz, then I guess orange isn't the cheapest choice for me

Check out this thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24176.0).
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: menashe04 on January 17, 2013, 08:21:23 PM
Check out this thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24176.0).
my tz isn't the issue, now I just need advice as to which co to use when all I'm going is for 2 weeks. Who's the best service for unlimited everything with data that I won't have an issue stopping after 2 weeks
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 17, 2013, 08:43:12 PM
my tz isn't the issue, now I just need advice as to which co to use when all I'm going is for 2 weeks. Who's the best service for unlimited everything with data that I won't have an issue stopping after 2 weeks
i would suggest go with orange - even if a bit more. i have heard good things
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Centurion on January 17, 2013, 08:44:55 PM
i would suggest go with orange - even if a bit more. i have heard good things
+1
thats what i use as well (054)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: menashe04 on January 18, 2013, 01:59:15 AM
i would suggest go with orange - even if a bit more. i have heard good things
any opinions on golan and 012mobile? Also, are any of these companies useful for tethering?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 18, 2013, 03:25:13 AM
any opinions on golan and 012mobile? Also, are any of these companies useful for tethering?
I am extremely happy with Golan over the past 6 months.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 18, 2013, 03:47:57 AM
I am extremely happy with Golan over the past 6 months.
How is their CS?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 18, 2013, 03:54:57 AM
How is their CS?
Not great, but slowly improving.
Though, I only needed them once, to explain me a feature.

CellCON, I had to call every other week, every time they scammed me out of more money.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: MAJ on January 18, 2013, 05:02:45 AM
i switched from orange cellphone and bezek home to cellcoms 350 unlimited plan with netvision. i conflicting info from them on whether i still need bezek for internet or bezek ben leumi. anyone know these things?
Title: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 18, 2013, 05:23:00 AM
I took some pics of some new offers on kosher phone plans from cellCON (for those interested).
CellCON, I had to call every other week, every time they scammed me out of more money.
It's called Cellcom by the way.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 18, 2013, 05:30:17 AM
It's called Cellcom by the way.

It is cellCON. I just can't help myself. They stole tons, didn't close my account when they said they would, kept charging me for another couple of months. After an hour on the phone they said they'll return all the money they charged me after I left, they never did. Though they did continue to charge me. I finally cancelled the horaat keva I  was getting charged from so that's the end of all their stealing :(

They are just one big sham company set up to look like a cellular provider.

Best of all, they hang up on your face for no apparent reason after waiting half an hour and waddling through 50 menus.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 18, 2013, 05:50:17 AM
It is cellCON. I just can't help myself. They stole tons, didn't close my account when they said they would, kept charging me for another couple of months. After an hour on the phone they said they'll return all the money they charged me after I left, they never did. Though they did continue to charge me. I finally cancelled the horaat keva I  was getting charged from so that's the end of all their stealing :(

They are just one big sham company set up to look like a cellular provider.

Best of all, they hang up on your face for no apparent reason after waiting half an hour and waddling through 50 menus.
Oh I get you now  ;), yup they are the biggest con-men of all.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Flying Fish on January 18, 2013, 01:00:29 PM
+1
thats what i use as well (054)
+2, Orange is a bit more expensive but very reliable service and fast data, I never had any issues.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 19, 2013, 04:23:12 PM
anybody know any info, of which network gives free sms to international? (there is apparently)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 19, 2013, 04:25:24 PM
anybody know any info, of which network gives free sms to international? (there is apparently)

There are apps that do that. I never heard of any network offering free intl sms.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 19, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
J - Why do you assume there is? I never heard of it.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: netzih on January 20, 2013, 02:55:03 AM
Not sure where to put this but does anyone know where I can get a sim card in israel from Feb. 11th to the 17th.
I mainly need data (bis is a plus). Though it would be nice to have some minutes too.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanx
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: juda on January 20, 2013, 03:20:48 PM
is anyone able to get me a hot mobile sim card for the 49 nis paln?
i live in NY dont have an israeli CC or ID willing to pay. if this one is working out ill probebly take a few of them

plan im looking to have is unlimited talk in israel and the US and unlimited data ( or a cap ) !
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 21, 2013, 03:06:24 PM
Hot have updated their plan. Its now ever better for us living here. They now include home internet, plus the unlimited cellphone plan, for 10 shekel first four month (porting) than 100.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 21, 2013, 03:25:31 PM
Hot have updated their plan. Its now ever better for us living here. They now include home internet, plus the unlimited cellphone plan, for 10 shekel first four month (porting) than 100.
Who is the sapak?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 21, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
I knw a drop OT but still phones. Bezek is hanging my plan in 7 days from 129₪ to 179₪ for no real reason other than they want to. I called around 7 times the past two days and they keep telling me they will calla me back. Any advice to cancel/get a new plan
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Chaikel on January 21, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
I knw a drop OT but still phones. Bezek is hanging my plan in 7 days from 129₪ to 179₪ for no real reason other than they want to. I called around 7 times the past two days and they keep telling me they will calla me back. Any advice to cancel/get a new plan
Chenek?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 21, 2013, 03:37:15 PM
I knw a drop OT but still phones. Bezek is hanging my plan in 7 days from 129₪ to 179₪ for no real reason other than they want to. I called around 7 times the past two days and they keep telling me they will calla me back. Any advice to cancel/get a new plan

Cut them off from whatever method you're paying from.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yeki89 on January 21, 2013, 03:51:00 PM
Cut them off from whatever method you're paying from.
They might have his info... TZ
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 21, 2013, 03:52:44 PM
They do.  That's why non of this really works for me :-(
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 21, 2013, 03:57:10 PM
They do.  That's why non of this really works for me :-(

You have a real TZ?  :o
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Yeki89 on January 21, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
US passport can also cause issues.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 21, 2013, 03:59:27 PM
I meant passport and yes i have a tz too
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 21, 2013, 04:17:30 PM
I meant passport and yes i have a tz too

The customs agents can really see bills left on passport? I figured only with parking tickets  :o
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 21, 2013, 04:20:50 PM
I meant passport and yes i have a tz too
you dont, your meuchedet or BL is not your TZ.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: rots5 on January 21, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
you dont, your meuchedet or BL is not your TZ.

BL isnt a tz? my wife just got one for her work
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 21, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
BL isnt a tz? my wife just got one for her work
the 770 number? Is not.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: jeremiah1083 on January 22, 2013, 12:03:51 PM
Questions re: Hot Mobile (for my upcoming trip using my famous (infamous?) DD El Al mistake tix!)

(I read through this entire thread and iPhone 5 thread, so please don't send me somewhere else. TIA)
FYI - I don't have TZ or Israeli CC (but from the thread it appears Hot still accepts US CC)

1) Any update on Talpiyot Hot store selling iPhone 5 nano SIMs on unlimited plan without TZ? That was never updated. Is Tachana Hot still not doing TZ-less plans?
2) @Jkhein recently mentioned that Hot only lets you freeze for 3 months, and you only get 1 freeze per year (assuming you downgrade to the 10 shekel plan after signing up for unlimited plan). If that's true, someone should update the wiki. Many people only travel to Israel once or twice a year, or even less, and are expecting that they can freeze their plan indefinitely (ex. I want to freeze for at least 10 months), until their next trip. If I'm misunderstanding, please let me know.
3) Anyone willing to lend their TZ number to make things easier? PM me.

Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 22, 2013, 12:17:59 PM
3) Anyone willing to lend their TZ number to make things easier? PM me.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24176.msg387494#msg387494
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: jeremiah1083 on January 22, 2013, 12:25:58 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24176.msg387494#msg387494

I'd rather use a real one from someone who trusts me. Don't want to hit up some random Israeli's TZ and inconvenience them.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: yuneeq on January 22, 2013, 12:46:23 PM
I'd rather use a real one from someone who trusts me. Don't want to hit up some random Israeli's TZ and inconvenience them.

Read the thread. There are multiple ways to get a working TZ number.
Meuchedet numbers, for instance.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: jeremiah1083 on January 22, 2013, 01:23:44 PM
Read the thread. There are multiple ways to get a working TZ number.
Meuchedet numbers, for instance.

I don't have a Meuchedet number. I also don't want to come up with a random TZ when it could possibly be someone else's.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 22, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
I don't have a Meuchedet number. I also don't want to come up with a random TZ when it could possibly be someone else's.
you must understand that somebody else would not want to give you theirs, especially if you can get a random.
Hot are getting tougher with giving without TZ, but online should be possible still.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: jeremiah1083 on January 22, 2013, 01:37:52 PM
you must understand that somebody else would not want to give you theirs, especially if you can get a random.
Hot are getting tougher with giving without TZ, but online should be possible still.

Going back to my original questions,
1) Can anyone confirm Hot Talpiyot sells SIMs and plans w/o TZ?
2) @Jkhein recently mentioned that Hot only lets you freeze for 3 months, and you only get 1 freeze per year (assuming you downgrade to the 10 shekel plan after signing up for unlimited plan). If that's true, someone should update the wiki. Many people only travel to Israel once or twice a year, or even less, and are expecting that they can freeze their plan indefinitely (ex. I want to freeze for at least 10 months), until their next trip. If I'm misunderstanding, please let me know.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: real-brisker on January 22, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
you must understand that somebody else would not want to give you theirs, especially if you can get a random.
Hot are getting tougher with giving without TZ, but online should be possible still.
+1
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 22, 2013, 02:00:04 PM
Going back to my original questions,
1) Can anyone confirm Hot Talpiyot sells SIMs and plans w/o TZ?
2) @Jkhein recently mentioned that Hot only lets you freeze for 3 months, and you only get 1 freeze per year (assuming you downgrade to the 10 shekel plan after signing up for unlimited plan). If that's true, someone should update the wiki. Many people only travel to Israel once or twice a year, or even less, and are expecting that they can freeze their plan indefinitely (ex. I want to freeze for at least 10 months), until their next trip. If I'm misunderstanding, please let me know.
question no. 1 was answered in the quote, that you quoted.
Whats question no. 2? That some should update the wiki? I'll do that later if I remember bln.
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: jeremiah1083 on January 22, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
question no. 1 was answered in the quote, that you quoted.
Whats question no. 2? That some should update the wiki? I'll do that later if I remember bln.

Q 1 wasn't answered. It's been reported on the thread that Tachana Hot Mobile stopped TZ-less signups, but it hasn't yet been confirmed that Talpiyot stopped. On January 1, @MEIR613 said he would go to Talpiyot and update the thread. He never did.
Q 2 - I just want to confirm that the freezing policy for Hot that you mentioned is accurate. If it is, then A) It's misleading to say you can sign up and then freeze when you leave Israel, and B) it totally removes Hot from the discussion for Americans looking for unlimited service in Israel for a few weeks/yr. I was about to ask someone in Israel to go buy it for me but first I spent 45 min reading through the whole thread where I dug up this crucial piece of information!
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 22, 2013, 02:26:20 PM
Q 1 wasn't answered. It's been reported on the thread that Tachana Hot Mobile stopped TZ-less signups, but it hasn't yet been confirmed that Talpiyot stopped. On January 1, @MEIR613 said he would go to Talpiyot and update the thread. He never did.
Q 2 - I just want to confirm that the freezing policy for Hot that you mentioned is accurate. If it is, then A) It's misleading to say you can sign up and then freeze when you leave Israel, and B) it totally removes Hot from the discussion for Americans looking for unlimited service in Israel for a few weeks/yr. I was about to ask someone in Israel to go buy it for me but first I spent 45 min reading through the whole thread where I dug up this crucial piece of information!
Im not sure if with talpiyot they mean the malcha booth, but if yes than they would not allow me.
Question 2- if someone does not want to pay the $2.50 per month, than there is indeed not an option for him. And not just Hot, golan does not let freeze at all. (last time I checked over a month ago) so indeed, FREE, is hardly an option. (though, still better than any other country)
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: jeremiah1083 on January 22, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
Im not sure if with talpiyot they mean the malcha booth, but if yes than they would not allow me.
Question 2- if someone does not want to pay the $2.50 per month, than there is indeed not an option for him. And not just Hot, golan does not let freeze at all. (last time I checked over a month ago) so indeed, FREE, is hardly an option. (though, still better than any other country)

Thanks very much. That's exactly what I was looking for!
Title: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: Tani3218 on January 22, 2013, 02:33:42 PM
Unlimited Israel is offering Iphone rentals for Israel.
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We also offer SIM card for iphone rentals, unlimited everything $30 a week.

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Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: menashe04 on January 22, 2013, 02:56:33 PM
Im not sure if with talpiyot they mean the malcha booth, but if yes than they would not allow me.
Question 2- if someone does not want to pay the $2.50 per month, than there is indeed not an option for him. And not just Hot, golan does not let freeze at all. (last time I checked over a month ago) so indeed, FREE, is hardly an option. (though, still better than any other country)
i understand, but what about canceling the plan? Is that possible or is there a fee for that?
Title: Re: Cell Phones in Israel
Post by: Jkhein on January 22, 2013, 03:00:41 PM
i understand, but what about canceling the plan? Is that possible or is there a fee for that?
no fee for cancelling.
Title: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: moko on January 22, 2013, 03:12:17 PM
Unlimited Israel is offering Iphone rentals for Israel.
Our prices are all inclusive. $40 a week!
What you get is - an iPhone which you can call unlimited minutes (to national and international), unlimited text messaging in Israel and unlimited Internet data!
Reserve now by emailing us at unlimitedisrael@travelziip.com
If you would like to see what our costumers are saying about this service
Check out Facebook.com/Israelunlimited and look for recent posts by others.
Our goal is to satisfy our costumers! Come check us out!

We also offer SIM card for iphone rentals, unlimited everything $30 a week.

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oh, and it's in the wrong thread
Title: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: Yeki89 on January 22, 2013, 03:14:10 PM
You know how these nOObs work...
Title: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: Chaikel on January 22, 2013, 03:14:57 PM
And you can get a sim for 70ag per day from 012
Title: Re: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: netzih on January 22, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
And you can get a sim for 70ag per day from 012
what's that? I'll be in Israel from Feb 11 to the 17th what's the best to get?
Title: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: Chaikel on January 22, 2013, 03:34:21 PM
what's that? I'll be in Israel from Feb 11 to the 17th what's the best to get?
If you have a friend/relative that's Israeli, tell him to go into a Yellow store and pick up a sim for you (33 NIS (~$9)I think) and then you can activate and cancel anytime you want online. Currently it's about 70ag (~19 cents) per day for 3GB data, unlimited calling/texting in Israel and unlimited calling to US/Canada.
Title: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: Name Changed on January 22, 2013, 03:39:19 PM
And you can get a sim for 70ag per day from 012
Whats included in that plan?

@Tani3218 - This forum is for advertising GO ELSEWHERE
Title: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: Chaikel on January 22, 2013, 03:49:44 PM
Whats included in that plan?

^^
Title: Re: Rent an iPhone for Israel $40 a week unlimited everything!
Post by: menashe04 on January 22, 2013, 04:07:01 PM
If you have a friend/relative that's Israeli, tell him to go into a Yellow store and pick up a sim for you (33 NIS (~$9)I think) and then you can activate and cancel anytime you want online. Currently it's about 70ag (~19 cents) per day for 3GB data, unlimited calling/texting in Israel and unlimited calling to US/Canada.
what do you meant by a Yellow store?