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Title: London Master Thread
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 02:57:41 AM
I will be arriving in LHR about 7:00pm I have approx 24 hrs until my departure any suggestions of where to stay? and what to see and do?
Title: Re: London
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 03:04:50 AM
tour buckingham palace or  see the crown jewels at tower of london
Title: Re: London
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 03:13:28 AM
What is the name of the area that I should be looking for a hotel in?
Title: Re: London
Post by: moish on June 12, 2008, 03:30:54 AM
i personally didnt care where i stayed i basically just did priceline since everything in london is so expensive (if you do priceline be sure to check out biddingfortravel.com so you dont bid in the dark) i just looked for a nice comfortble hotel and got around with the tube (aka subway)
Title: Re: London
Post by: ash on June 12, 2008, 01:28:44 PM
sell cigs in london you can make money while your there
Title: Re: London
Post by: levi on June 12, 2008, 05:30:17 PM
I did Priceline and got the "Thistle Westminster" for $165 plus tax and fees $202 seems to be a pretty nice hotel in a great location
Title: Re: London
Post by: levi on June 17, 2008, 01:36:07 AM
Does anyone know or have experience with storing luggage for a day in Heathrow airport?
Title: Re: London
Post by: moish on June 17, 2008, 02:56:09 AM
i left stuff there for a few days but make sure you leave it in the same terminal that youre leaving from i didnt and it was a real pain
Title: Re: London
Post by: yid on June 30, 2008, 10:34:09 PM
any one know how to get from heathrow to hendon? is the the heathrow express the best way to go? (cost + time)? and where do i transfer trains?
Title: Re: London
Post by: me on July 01, 2008, 09:53:06 AM
the problem with london is that EVERYTHING is so expensive...
Title: Re: London
Post by: levi on July 02, 2008, 06:55:59 PM
the problem with london is that EVERYTHING is so expensive...
Any last minute tips before I go? I will be there next week
Title: Re: London
Post by: Eli on July 02, 2008, 06:57:04 PM
Yes. Book a Hotel in Venice.
Title: Re: London
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2008, 07:17:25 PM
Planning on seeing the changing of the guard?
I was in London for a couple days about 6 years ago and all I remember is being absolutely shocked at the cost of the restaurants.
Title: Re: London
Post by: levi on July 02, 2008, 07:22:02 PM
Planning on seeing the changing of the guard?
I was in London for a couple days about 6 years ago and all I remember is being absolutely shocked at the cost of the restaurants.
Yes I was told it is a must
Title: Re: London
Post by: Eli on July 02, 2008, 07:23:19 PM
Levi, you know what you need...you need to have a meeting with all the guys who are going on the trip with you, preferably on the front porch of wherever you are staying, and talk about absolutely nothing until 4 in the morning.
Title: Re: London
Post by: levi on July 02, 2008, 07:26:46 PM
Levi, you know what you need...you need to have a meeting with all the guys who are going on the trip with you, preferably on the front porch of wherever you are staying, and talk about absolutely nothing until 4 in the morning.
I think it was actually until 5 in the morning ;D
Title: Re: London
Post by: E on July 02, 2008, 11:08:51 PM
any one know how to get from heathrow to hendon? is the the heathrow express the best way to go? (cost + time)? and where do i transfer trains?
i know the underground goes from the airport to golders green so it must also go to hendon check there website http://www.tfl.gov.uk/ (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/)
Title: Re: London
Post by: Smirk on July 03, 2008, 12:42:09 AM
Levi, you know what you need...you need to have a meeting with all the guys who are going on the trip with you, preferably on the front porch of wherever you are staying, and talk about absolutely nothing until 4 in the morning.
dont forget you also have to be too lazy to walk around the corner :)
Title: TRAVEL IN LONDON
Post by: chaim rox on July 13, 2008, 02:13:23 PM
I have a stopover in London for a full day and was looking for a tour guide to take me around. knw of any??!!!
Title: Re: TRAVEL IN LONDON
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2008, 11:59:01 AM
Just buy a good guidebook (such as lonely planet) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fs%3Furl%3Dsearch-alias%253Daps%26field-keywords%3Dlonely%2Bplanet%2Blondon%26x%3D0%26y%3D0&tag=ctownbochur-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325) and you'll have a better time for a whole lot less.
Title: Re: TRAVEL IN LONDON
Post by: chaim rox on July 16, 2008, 06:27:33 PM
Thanks Dan!!! I'll look into it..
Title: Re: TRAVEL IN LONDON
Post by: Smirk on July 16, 2008, 08:22:29 PM
So what did you end up doing in london?
Title: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: pghtown on April 22, 2009, 10:40:30 AM
I will be in London UK this summer and need advice on where to stay.  Want to be near shuls, kosher restaurants etc.  Does anybody have recommendations for hotels/locations?
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: kc1544 on May 20, 2009, 01:19:55 PM
I know that Rabbi Hershel Gorman has a hotel, but i am not sure its name or any contact info...
I hope that is of help. If i get more info i will post...
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: kc1544 on May 20, 2009, 01:25:02 PM
I think this might be it: (Not 100% positive)
http://www.totallyjewishtravel.com/vacations/kosher_hotels_and_resorts/item_123   
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: paygeh on July 05, 2009, 05:06:37 PM
I once stayed in the Croft Court Hotel in Golders Green (referenced in the above link) - it was "quaint" to be polite, but clean - and very good location as far as kosher & davening go.
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: pghtown on July 05, 2009, 07:43:37 PM
Agree- just got back from London and I stayed at the Croft Court Hotel (Thanks to KC1544).  It was very clean, breakfast was excellent, and the location just off Golders Green Rd was excellent (right near restaurants and shuls/shteibels) .  A 20 minute tube ride to central London- would definitely stay there again
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: eli1571 on October 02, 2009, 09:17:11 AM
Well in Stamford hill there's kadima hotel don't know anything about the quality etc but its in the center of s.h. close to the train's etc
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: rafaelous on October 18, 2009, 06:41:49 PM
there's also the king solomon hotel, not sure about the prices though.
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: steve2 on October 19, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
 Not as convient as Croft Court, Theres a Holiday In Express on Finchley Rd and the M4. Its a 15-20 min walk to where the M4 goes  from Golders Green into Hendon. So its a bus ride to /from the Tube, but if you have or can get Priority Club pts you can get it for free on pts
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: rafaelous on October 25, 2009, 01:12:26 PM
Not as convient as Croft Court, Theres a Holiday In Express on Finchley Rd and the M4. Its a 15-20 min walk to where the M4 goes  from Golders Green into Hendon. So its a bus ride to /from the Tube, but if you have or can get Priority Club pts you can get it for free on pts
What do you mean not convenient...you can hop on a bus from outside the door into central london and there's also a shul accross the road. only downside is it isn't kosher.
Title: Re: Hotels in London near Shuls etc
Post by: steve2 on October 25, 2009, 01:49:58 PM
What do you mean not convenient...you can hop on a bus from outside the door into central london and there's also a shul accross the road. only downside is it isn't kosher.

 Meant if a person simply wanted to walk out and grab something to eat.

With The CC its a couple mins walk to the restaurants in Golders Green, while with The HIE its a long walk or a person has t jump on a bus/es
Title: london info
Post by: yare on June 01, 2010, 01:46:45 PM
anyone have an experiences iwth the hilton hotels near central london?   also, how difficult will it be for me to get around on public transportation with a stroller and a couple kids if im not staying directly in the center of town?   any suggestions on restaraunts?  any help would be great.  thanks
Title: Re: london info
Post by: steve2 on June 01, 2010, 01:59:50 PM
 not all stations have escalators or elevators = Think Stairs in alot but not all cases

 DT there are 2 resturants Reubens off Oxford St and Bevis and Marks in the shul on the other side of town. There are a couple of places (Dept stores) on Oxford that sells kosher sandwiches in their food mkt but once I looked at them I passed  on the sandwiches that is.

The best place for food is Golders Green or Hendon which is far from DT

 I dont see many people with strollers walking around London at times it can be like Times Sq NYE.

 My suggestion is untill your kids get old enough where they can walk on their own go somewhere else thats kids friendly and where you can drive to and park nearby
Title: Re: london info
Post by: moish on June 01, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
two words: baby bjorn
Title: Re: london info
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 01, 2010, 02:02:31 PM
two words: baby bjorn
;D never really felt comfortable with it, but the idea is good.
Title: Re: london info
Post by: moish on June 01, 2010, 02:03:19 PM
just jump in head first, its a mechaya
Title: Re: london info
Post by: yare on June 02, 2010, 02:23:24 PM
are there any not so expensive, more casual places to grab lunch at, such as pizza or something?   also, are there any fancy places with really nice food?
Title: Re: london info
Post by: steve2 on June 02, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
are there any not so expensive, more casual places to grab lunch at, such as pizza or something?   also, are there any fancy places with really nice food?

 Golders Green Rd has pizza and fast fleshig joints, thou the pizza is far from even what youd get in the US even out of town

 a new milchig sort of fancy place recently opened on GGR. I think Hendon has more full service places. But Fancy and London dont go together. DT there used to be 613 neverw as teher and dont think they are still open
Title: Re: london info
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 02, 2010, 03:01:03 PM
I liked isola bella, which had a huge selection of sandwiches, then there is supposed to be a place calles Solys (no idea how to spell it) and there you need to be upstairs, so much to stories I was told.
Title: Re: london info
Post by: steve2 on June 02, 2010, 03:13:58 PM
I liked isola bella, which had a huge selection of sandwiches, then there is supposed to be a place calles Solys (no idea how to spell it) and there you need to be upstairs, so much to stories I was told.

 Sollys Upstairs is now Downstairs, I think the Upstairs is a party room if anything

 Also no CCs at the fast bar and really no place to sit and eat it as there was yrs ago.

however The White House from Hendon has opened on GGR near where the Underground crosses over the street and has tables and a counter its Fast Food only unlike Hendon
Title: Re: london info
Post by: yare on June 02, 2010, 06:32:15 PM
ok, all these locations are losing me at the moment since i have no idea where anything is there, but ill check out a map when it gets closer.   bottom line, if i wnat to go to an upscale fleishig place for dinner one night, any good options?
Title: Re: london info
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 02, 2010, 07:01:31 PM
Do your homework properly as London is huge. I believe some 30k streets.
In case you want, in 2 hours by train you are in Paris or Brussels (add 55 mins for Antwerp, and another 1:20 for Amsterdam).
Title: Re: london info
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 02, 2010, 07:02:45 PM
Isola Bella are also opening a new branch in the Westfield shopping center, which is a new, very fancy mall not far from the west end.
I'm not sure exactly when they're opening, but it should be sometime soon.

Quote
...Finally, Israeli chef Leor Nissim is opening Café Isola Bella – the centre’s first fully kosher restaurant. This latest venture will be the flagship venue in a chain of specialist boutique restaurants which already comprises three well established restaurants in North West London. World renowned architects and designers have collaborated to create a stunning new bar, café and restaurant which will be located within the Village, overlooking the Southern Terrace.


Leor Nissim said: “Café Isola Bella Westfield will be very special. The interior has been designed by one of the most talented design teams in Israel, and their attention to detail has helped to ensure this restaurant will be the ideal daytime haven for shopaholics, their friends and children, and a great leisure venue late into the evening. It’s not only the décor that will be special though, the food will be of the very highest order too.


“I fully expect Café Isola Bella Westfield to establish a reputation as the finest luxury kosher dining experience, unrivalled for quality or value anywhere in Europe.”

"All of the new restaurants will be opening between now and the summer."


Link to Westfield (http://uk.westfield.com/london/)

Title: Re: london info
Post by: steve2 on June 02, 2010, 07:34:04 PM
Isola Bella are also opening a new branch in the Westfield shopping center, which is a new, very fancy mall not far from the west end.
I'm not sure exactly when they're opening, but it should be sometime soon.


Link to Westfield (http://uk.westfield.com/london/)


thanks nice to know but it wont be walkable from the West End Zone 1 area. Its by the White City tube stop . Its 5-6 stops after Marnle Arch which is the last stop in Zone 1.

 still nice to know it will be there but Ill stick with Reubens when staying DT
Title: Re: london info
Post by: batzelda1 on June 04, 2010, 09:53:22 AM
there is a meat indian restaurant that is delicious.  Think its in GG, but might be henden
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 09, 2010, 08:00:20 PM
there is a meat indian restaurant that is delicious.  Think its in GG, but might be henden

I think you're referring to Mattancherry (http://www.mattancherry.co.uk/) which is on GGR, right under the tracks. It is a very nice place, but make sure that you/everyone travelling with you enjoys Indian cuisine; it might be a bit too hot for some.... Also it is under Kedassia supervision (very rare for restaurants in London), which is considered the very "frum" hechsher around there....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yare on June 10, 2010, 07:40:35 AM
that looks really nice, i'm gonna check it out when i'm there.    anyone know the proximity of the hyatt churchill to gg area, both by foot and public transport?
also, anyone that can give me a rundown on hechsherim that are used by the yeshiva crowd over there?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 10, 2010, 10:14:18 AM
that looks really nice, i'm gonna check it out when i'm there.    anyone know the proximity of the hyatt churchill to gg area, both by foot and public transport?
also, anyone that can give me a rundown on hechsherim that are used by the yeshiva crowd over there?

 about the same as Midtown Manhattan to Flatbush

 bus #13 or I think alos the 82 goes down (or up depends how you see it) Glouster St which I believe the Churchill is on or at least has an Entrance to

 The 13 terminates at the GG Underground station the 82 passes it , so it will be out the right side window of the bus. Then after getting off head to your left off the 82 or Right if you took the 13 to its last stop. (the GG station is on GGR) Id say apx 1/2 hr ride go up to the top level and enjoy the views
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yare on June 10, 2010, 04:45:01 PM
thanx for all that info...i lost you on the last line though.  what's a half hour ride up, the bus ride?   also, gg itself is walkable to the various restaraunts once i get there, or do i need to take other buses in gg to get around?  can i take a double stroller on these local buses?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 11, 2010, 10:17:23 AM
thanx for all that info...i lost you on the last line though.  what's a half hour ride up, the bus ride?   also, gg itself is walkable to the various restaraunts once i get there, or do i need to take other buses in gg to get around?  can i take a double stroller on these local buses?

 most buses are double deckers so its great sitting up top in the 1st ro you see everything

 Double stroller??? are U... , maybe on a Sat but I cant ever remember seeing a double anywhere on the streets in London then maybe you are Muslim and will have your wife walk behind you.

 would u go to Times Sq or walk along 5th ave with a ds? I sure wouldnt let alone try to tackle Public Transport

Its hard enough trying to get a single stroller onto the bus forget about a double

 just my opinion but why the heck would you submit yourself to such a trip? i understand it if you didnt have any kids, left the kids with yur parents or in-laws etc etc but if the kids wont remember anything whats the pt except that You want to go, theres very little that really is for a kid that cant walk and its own meaning being say 6+ and thats probably too young.

Go to a place thats is kid friendly = no Major city anywhere, more like a resort or find a place to park them or bring someone to where you live and they hit the road with ONLY your wife

 yes once by the Underground station in gg you can walk to most restaurants that are in gg but I dont remember the last time I saw a stroller in any of them

 what U want to do is what you should hav edone before you started having kids or do after they are grown, I dont think its right schelping kids around the world so that Mommy & Daddy can see places they havent as yet or when the youngest is able to understand where they are going and what they are seeing

 So a hotel in Miami or DisneyWorld is workable but a major world city is anything but and its not equiped for it either,IMO not taht U asked
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yare1 on June 13, 2010, 01:54:10 PM
not taht U asked

took you long enough... but you got there

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 13, 2010, 10:10:14 PM
took you long enough... but you got there


????

 had yare said from get go they were gonna be traveling with more then 1 kid and a ds ,I would have saved myself alot of time

 Bout the only Country that I think a person can tackle is Israel since the buses etc can handle a ds and people generally will be lending a hand to help them on and off etc etc

 but In My Opinion, most of The Worlds major cities will be a major hassle with a ds or a couple of kids+.

On the other hand places were people dont generally walk on the streets in mass, should be doable, but most likely such places wont be on anyones radar for a Must visit

 Then theres the actual subjecting the kid/s to what most likely will be a very bored and trying day/s, why do that just so that you can see what those w/o kids are able to . It would something else to a lesser extent if the kids were older, no stroller needed nor diapers and youd go to places that would be kid friendly a zoo, Disneyland, but i highly doubt that the Downtown areas of any Major city will be a place a kid would want to see.just my 2 cents.
Title: LONDON
Post by: miles on August 05, 2010, 03:44:57 PM
cut anyone help with good places to visit in london
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2010, 03:07:37 PM
So we're going to be in London for 24 hours in December.
Arriving at about 7am, and we've got a wedding in the evening at LHR and an 8am flight out, so I guess I'll be sleeping at an LHR hotel.
Any SPG LHR recommendations?

I was in London some 7 years ago and we did the tower of london and the changing of the guards.
Anything else worth doing? Maybe a tour of buckingham palace?
Kosher food (lunch) recommendations in any tourist areas?

We're flying DFW-LHR in BA F.  Are there any lounges we can get into upon arrival?
We're flying LHR-AMS in BA J the next morning.  Think we'll be able to access the F lounge do to being on an F connection?  I've had luck with that with LH and LX in FRA, MUC, and ZRH, never tried in LHR though.
Do you have to order Hermolis meals these days in the lounge or do they have them on hand?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: miles on November 04, 2010, 03:18:58 PM
We're flying DFW-LHR in BA F.  Are there any lounges we can get into upon arrival?
in T5 there is one they have kosher meal in freezer i was there in Aug.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 04, 2010, 04:39:23 PM
i did the buckingham palace tour and i enjoyed it very much. not sure if they do it wintertime though
i pricelined it for a pretty good deal
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2010, 05:11:30 PM
in T5 there is one they have kosher meal in freezer i was there in Aug.
Can you get there upon arrival without a connecting flight that day?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2010, 10:02:06 PM
i did the buckingham palace tour and i enjoyed it very much. not sure if they do it wintertime though
i pricelined it for a pretty good deal
Oh well, looks like it's indeed only in the summer.
Any other suggestions?
Maybe I'll just stay in the F lounge in T5  ;)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on November 04, 2010, 10:07:56 PM
The London Eye is pretty cool. Although, its kinda pricey...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 05, 2010, 05:47:33 AM
how far is stonehenge?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2010, 11:10:38 AM
The London Eye is pretty cool. Although, its kinda pricey...
Did you do it? $31 for one revolution...man London is expensive.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2010, 11:12:19 AM
how far is stonehenge?
Looks like 2-3 hours each way.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 07, 2010, 01:36:12 AM
The London Eye is pretty cool. Although, its kinda pricey...

It's nice, depending on the weather (which is very unpredictable there....). On a cloudy day your view will be something like this:
(http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b427/fetzelovitch/th_IMG_2198.jpg) (http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b427/fetzelovitch/?action=view&current=IMG_2198.jpg)


If you're into museums, visit the Imperial War Museum (http://london.iwm.org.uk/) (which is about a 15 minute walk from Big Ben/London Eye). It has some amazing exhibits, and although it focuses somewhat on British wars, it has the most amazing and touching Holocaust Exhibition. Many people that have been there have said it's as good, if not better than Yad Vashem.... (And best of all, it's free!)

For lunch you could either travel in to one of the Jewish areas, or try the new Isola Bella (http://uk.westfield.com/thevillagelondon/find/detail/store?retailer=42297) in the Westfield shopping center.

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2010, 01:19:22 AM
For lunch you could either travel in to one of the Jewish areas, or try the new Isola Bella (http://uk.westfield.com/thevillagelondon/find/detail/store?retailer=42297) in the Westfield shopping center.
Any menu online?
How's underground access there?

I'm wondering if I should just enjoy the F lounges and stay in LHR until the wedding at 5 or so which is at an LHR hotel.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 07, 2010, 01:21:23 AM
i personally would check out stonehenge
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2010, 01:35:56 AM
i personally would check out stonehenge
Seems extreme to travel 6 hours RT via public transport.
I'd only have a couple hours there to spend.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: miles on November 07, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
If you're into museums, visit the Imperial War Museum (http://london.iwm.org.uk/) (which is about a 15 minute walk from Big Ben/London Eye). It has some amazing exhibits, and although it focuses somewhat on British wars, it has the most amazing and touching Holocaust Exhibition. Many people that have been there have said it's as good, if not better than Yad Vashem.... (And best of all, it's free!)
i was ther its very nice but i didnt have time to finish the entire museum at closing time every think shouts off
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: miles on November 07, 2010, 09:45:38 AM
you can take a cruise there is a few options there i was on one for an half hour there is also one for two hours
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: miles on November 07, 2010, 09:49:33 AM
you can also visit British Museum i didnt enjoy it my brother was in British library he enjoyed it very good
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 07, 2010, 02:21:27 PM
Any menu online?
How's underground access there?

I'm wondering if I should just enjoy the F lounges and stay in LHR until the wedding at 5 or so which is at an LHR hotel.
I'm not sure about the menu, but Westfield is easily accessible from both Shepherds Bush and White City Station.

But you always have the option of hanging around LHR.......
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2010, 02:24:27 PM
I'm not sure about the menu, but Westfield is easily accessible from both Shepherds Bush and White City Station.

But you always have the option of hanging around LHR.......
How much will it cost/how long will it take to get there from LHR?
Anything else to do there?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 07, 2010, 02:39:49 PM
i completely forgot about the british museum. i could probably spend some time there
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 07, 2010, 03:08:06 PM
How much will it cost/how long will it take to get there from LHR?
Anything else to do there?

I'm not sure how far it is by tube, probably around 40 minutes, but I haven't the faintest how much tickets cost nowadays....
Westfield is basically a new, very fancy mall with loads of interesting and designer stores. Also, they're going to have an indoor ice-skating rink through Nov/Dec if you enjoy that kinda thing...
uk.westfield.com/london (http://uk.westfield.com/london)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: E on November 08, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
Did you do it? $31 for one revolution...man London is expensive.
it's a pretty boring Iv'e been on it. It's basically a ride where you get stuck looking at a view of london for a half hour, after 3 min you are bored.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yid on February 27, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
any one have any ideas for day trips near london by train? i'm thinking of going to cambridge?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 27, 2011, 05:33:35 PM
1. Stonehenge
2. Bath
3. Windsor Castle

Usually you can get tours that do all 3 in the same day as a bus trip.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on March 02, 2011, 05:29:21 AM
Will be in London for 10 hours in May...can I get a reccomendation for a good restaurant or two? Preferably in the Golders Green area...thanks!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 02, 2011, 08:00:55 AM
when i was there 4 years ago there was this indian place
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 02, 2011, 10:47:20 AM
Will be in London for 10 hours in May...can I get a reccomendation for a good restaurant or two? Preferably in the Golders Green area...thanks!

There is a Chinese place called Kaifeng (sp?) and an Israeli joint called The White House. Kaifeng I think is more sit down IIRC and White House is order at the counter and get your food (but had some really excellent shawarma).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yid on March 02, 2011, 07:28:56 PM
Will be in London for 10 hours in May...can I get a reccomendation for a good restaurant or two? Preferably in the Golders Green area...thanks!
There is a relatively new restuarant in edgeware that i ate at last night that was very good called popolinas. they have an all you can eat for 25 pounds. comes with dips, salads, sides, duck, lamb, chicken, kufta, spicy beef sausages and steak. the steak wasn't too good but everything else was.

in golders green novelino and isso labella are nice cafes.  A lot of people recommended a meat restaurant in hendon called 86 bistro as the only nice meat place to go in the hendon goldergreen area.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 02, 2011, 08:19:54 PM
I would HIGHLY recommend the new Isola Bella at the Westfield shopping centre. Much better food, service and ambiance than the one in Hendon (it's dairy btw). Also, you could spend some time shopping in the beautiful mall. If you're venturing into Edgware, try out the Aviv Restaurant (Meat), nothing fancy, but plain good food...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yid on March 03, 2011, 11:02:43 AM
I would HIGHLY recommend the new Isola Bella at the Westfield shopping centre. Much better food, service and ambiance than the one in Hendon (it's dairy btw). Also, you could spend some time shopping in the beautiful mall. If you're venturing into Edgware, try out the Aviv Restaurant (Meat), nothing fancy, but plain good food...

the soup and desserts in Isola Bella westfield are amazing. I found popolinas to be nicer than the aviv once your already going to edgware to eat.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 28, 2011, 12:53:14 AM
how long is the tube ride from LHR to central London (Buckingham palace)?? also any suggestions on where to go?? I'm gonna b there for 12 hours this Monday. thanx
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 02:22:50 AM
how long is the tube ride from LHR to central London (Buckingham palace)?? also any suggestions on where to go?? I'm gonna b there for 12 hours this Monday. thanx
A nice lounge in LHR?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yaakov on April 28, 2011, 02:38:38 AM
why? theres not enough time to go out on a 12 hour layovr.
 i thought ill be able to leave the airport on about a 6 hour layover that ill be taking soon
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 02:52:07 AM
why? theres not enough time to go out on a 12 hour layovr.
 i thought ill be able to leave the airport on about a 6 hour layover that ill be taking soon
If I was flying BA J/F I would enjoy the great BA lounges and the excellent free kosher food there.
London is an extremely expensive city with mediocre food and attractions IMHO.  I'm not sure what you plan to do at Buckingham Palace except spend time and money to get a look at it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 28, 2011, 12:02:08 PM
why? theres not enough time to go out on a 12 hour layovr.
 i thought ill be able to leave the airport on about a 6 hour layover that ill be taking soon

I had a 12 hr layover there in the fall and had a great time exploring the city. We did tons in a short amount of time and enjoyed it immensely. We took the HeathrowExpress to save time (yes it is very expensive) to get to the city.

Some highlights:

London Eye
British Museum (for only a short time, its massive)
Walk by of Westminster Abbey and Big Ben/Parliament
Trafalgar Square
Buckingham Palace gates/guards view
Selfridges (kosher food inside as well - picked up for lunch)
Marble Arch/Speaker's Corner

We had a great time walking the city and enjoying the day. We also managed to grab a cup of coffee with my cousin who works right near the Tate Modern (we met at the coffee shop on the top floor of the museum overlooking the Thames).

Good times and definitely what to see and do there if you've never been before.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 12:05:09 PM
The London Eye is over $30 to go around the Ferris Wheel one time...is that really worth it?
And that's typical of London pricing.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on April 28, 2011, 12:09:20 PM
The London Eye is over $30 to go around the Ferris Wheel one time...is that really worth it?
And that's typical of London pricing.

I had a great experience on the London Eye, YMMV.

But in general you're correct, practically everything in London is overpriced.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 28, 2011, 12:10:43 PM
I had a great experience on the London Eye, YMMV.

But in general you're correct, practically everything in London is overpriced.

We had a nice time as well. London is expensive, but once you get over the prices, it is a nice city.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 12:17:48 PM
To be fair, I haven't been to London since my teenage days, but I just recall everything being outrageously expensive and the sights being mildly interesting.

I was supposed to connect through LHR on my recent RTW and was planning on just staying in the BA F lounge.  Got rerouted though via SFO which made it moot though.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 28, 2011, 12:22:36 PM
To be fair, I haven't been to London since my teenage days, but I just recall everything being outrageously expensive and the sights being mildly interesting.

I was supposed to connect through LHR on my recent RTW and was planning on just staying in the BA F lounge.  Got rerouted though via SFO which made it moot though.

Things are really expensive and arguably not the best sites, but there are some really great ones. I had already been to London before so I had already been to the Tower of London which is an excellent place to visit. Also, The British Museum is amazing if you put the time into it. For a 12 hour layover it could be worth it to just do one or both of those and then head back to LHR.

Also, if not flying BA F, the Galleries lounges are nice, but don't have the same level of service (or kosher food) that the CCR has.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 12:27:53 PM
12 hours isn't really 12 hours when you factor immigration and check-in times.
Anyway just to get from LHR to the tower of london via trains+admission will set you back $100 a person I would estimate.
I can't say that I got $100 worth of enjoyment from the tower of london but YMMV.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 28, 2011, 12:34:31 PM
12 hours isn't really 12 hours when you factor immigration and check-in times.
Anyway just to get from LHR to the tower of london via trains+admission will set you back $100 a person I would estimate.
I can't say that I got $100 worth of enjoyment from the tower of london but YMMV.

I completely understand where you're coming from and would not judge you for making a different decision than I did. Everyone values experiences and opportunities differently (i.e., spending miles on BA knowing the taxes/fees are crazy) and will act accordingly. We had a great time in London, but I could see why people might hesitate to make the same choice.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 28, 2011, 10:13:44 PM
I wish I can get into the lounges, but I have no status!! (one day I hope to get into the mileage thing, but I'm still trying to learn in yeshiva) did anyone do maddem tassudes (the wax museum) what's ur take on it??
also is the british museum all history? bec I don't really have an interest in history (at least not a museum on it)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zalman123 on April 29, 2011, 12:24:20 AM
any recommendations for a *wood hotel ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 29, 2011, 12:30:20 AM
also is the british museum all history? bec I don't really have an interest in history (at least not a museum on it)

British Museum is history... even if you don't like history if you are interested in seeing the Rosetta Stone that is where it is housed. Pretty amazing piece of history if you ask me... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yaakov on April 29, 2011, 02:15:06 AM
how much time would i need from landing to checking back in
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 29, 2011, 02:47:14 AM
thanx LAXtraveler for the run down of ur trip. did anyone else do a stopover like this, can u please share a rundown of what u did?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 29, 2011, 11:10:09 AM
how much time would i need from landing to checking back in
I would probably leave room for 90 minutes to clear immigration and customs and 2 hours to checkin again.

Will you bags be checked through?  In MEL on my past trip they wouldn't allow me to recheck my bags until 4 hours before the flight so I had to shlep them with me all day.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 29, 2011, 11:15:11 AM
on my flight PHL-LHR-TLV they r checking the bags through for me. & u say 90 min to clear imigration & customs?? wow I guess I shouls forget abt seeing changing of the guards at 11:30 if I'm landing at 10:10, unless I take the heathrow express train
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 29, 2011, 11:24:13 AM
on my flight PHL-LHR-TLV they r checking the bags through for me. & u say 90 min to clear imigration & customs?? wow I guess I shouls forget abt seeing changing of the guards at 11:30 if I'm landing at 10:10, unless I take the heathrow express train
I definitely would not count on being at the palace within 80 minutes of scheduled landing!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 29, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
I figured it would be cutting it tight. but I want to land up in that area anyways, so we'll wait & see what happens.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 29, 2011, 11:36:27 AM
on my flight PHL-LHR-TLV they r checking the bags through for me. & u say 90 min to clear imigration & customs?? wow I guess I shouls forget abt seeing changing of the guards at 11:30 if I'm landing at 10:10, unless I take the heathrow express train

I don't think you need 90 minutes for immigration and customs, however, LHR is notorious for putting planes in holding patterns prior to landing and therefore you usually land a few minutes late. As such, you may be running behind your scheduled time anyway. 80 minutes is possible with no bags, etc. and assuming you land on time and take the Express. When we went on our day customs/immigration took 15 minutes, but we were in a holding pattern resulting in a slightly delayed landing.

We had things planned on our day and decided that whatever we could get to and were up for doing we would do and if not then not.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 29, 2011, 11:47:39 AM
I don't think you need 90 minutes for immigration and customs, however, LHR is notorious for putting planes in holding patterns prior to landing and therefore you usually land a few minutes late. As such, you may be running behind your scheduled time anyway. 80 minutes is possible with no bags, etc. and assuming you land on time and take the Express. When we went on our day customs/immigration took 15 minutes, but we were in a holding pattern resulting in a slightly delayed landing.

We had things planned on our day and decided that whatever we could get to and were up for doing we would do and if not then not.
90 minutes is factoring for the minor delays that come up.
It will take some luck to be at the palace within 80 minutes of scheduled landing.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yaakov on April 29, 2011, 11:58:25 AM
how long does the subway take. im landing at 9:30, and i thought mabey ill get a glance at the changing of the guards at 11:30.
the airline told me their going to transfer my luggage for me, should i believe the rep. its virgin connecting to el al. 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 29, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
how long does the subway take. im landing at 9:30, and i thought mabey ill get a glance at the changing of the guards at 11:30.
the airline told me their going to transfer my luggage for me, should i believe the rep. its virgin connecting to el al.

Subway takes around an hour at least I believe (compared to 20 min or so once on the Express).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yaakov on April 29, 2011, 12:11:33 PM
thanks.  :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on April 29, 2011, 12:16:47 PM
yaakov when r u gonna be there???
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yaakov on April 29, 2011, 12:20:50 PM
after you
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: E on April 29, 2011, 01:32:38 PM
if anyone is in LHR on 5/6 in the morning or 5/8 in the afternoon i should be able to get you lounge access.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on April 29, 2011, 01:37:25 PM
Subway takes around an hour at least I believe (compared to 20 min or so once on the Express).

There's no subway in London, it's officially called the Metro, or 'the Tube'...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 29, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
There's no subway in London, it's officially called the Metro, or 'the Tube'...
And it's much more expensive than US subways.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 29, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
There's no subway in London, it's officially called the Metro, or 'the Tube'...

No, it's officially called the "Underground" or the "tube". The Metro is in Paris if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 29, 2011, 04:57:11 PM
No, it's officially called the "Underground" or the "tube". The Metro is in Paris if I'm not mistaken.

Correct and correct.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yaakov on April 29, 2011, 05:14:32 PM
you can get now 50% off your expess train ticket from their website in honor of royal wedding
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on April 30, 2011, 09:47:56 PM
And it's much more expensive than US subways.

If you're only riding one zone it isn't much more expensive than NYC (at least it wasn't a few years ago, might've changed since). If you're going to be in London for an extended amount of time, get an Oyster card, that'll save you money.

No, it's officially called the "Underground" or the "tube". The Metro is in Paris if I'm not mistaken.

Whoops, I stand corrected.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dLo-16CSAxs/R7WgDz0t3kI/AAAAAAAAAVM/U81dRwdWqD4/s400/London+Underground.jpg)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on May 01, 2011, 07:39:39 AM
does anyone about duty-free cigarettes in london- are they american? are they cheaper than in america?
how about whiskey? are the prices better than in america?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on May 01, 2011, 10:33:16 AM
does anyone about duty-free cigarettes in london- are they american? are they cheaper than in america?
how about whiskey? are the prices better than in america?

Unless the whiskey is on a killer special the prices can be beat by the discounters in Brooklyn.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 01, 2011, 02:56:51 PM
Unless the whiskey is on a killer special the prices can be beat by the discounters in Brooklyn.

True, but sometimes the whiskey's you can get in LHR are ones you cannot always find here in the States.

Also, I like to buy myself some cigars when in LHR (the kinds I "can't" get in States)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on May 03, 2011, 04:06:08 PM
Unless the whiskey is on a killer special the prices can be beat by the discounters in Brooklyn.


You were right AsherO. I paid 17 british pounds (about $30) per liter of JD (when you buy 2), which isn't much better than liquor stores in US. Since I'm learning in Eretz Yisrael, where the same bottle would cost 160 NIS, which is $48 with the latest exchang rate ($1= 3.34 NIS :(), I figured id better buy it now or never.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: intgesh on May 03, 2011, 04:10:59 PM
And the cigarette prices weren't that great either. The most they sell is 600 (3 cartons). I would have bought in the US but i didnt want to shlep 5 cartons of cigarettes around london for 8 hrs.

I think they weren't American,either
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 03, 2011, 04:30:18 AM
im scheduled to arrive in lhr from vie at 2:35 pm. is it feasible to rent a car and drive to stonhenge before the closing time of 7pm?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on June 05, 2011, 04:21:06 PM
im scheduled to arrive in lhr from vie at 2:35 pm. is it feasible to rent a car and drive to stonhenge before the closing time of 7pm?

If you're out of the airport quickly enough, it seems like you'll make it (but not with much extra time). GoogleMaps shows ~75 miles from LHR to Stonehenge, that's like 1:20-1:30 of driving.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 07, 2011, 08:43:08 PM
google maps also shows the driving time
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: miles on July 27, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
Is there any kosher meal in lounge for AA first
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on July 27, 2011, 02:49:28 PM
Is there any kosher meal in lounge for AA first
Don't know, but if you have a way to get into the Elal lounge, it is all kosher, and very good
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: elikay on July 27, 2011, 03:12:22 PM
Is there any kosher meal in lounge for AA first
Pretzels :P
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 27, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
Pretzels :P
ive never seen kosher pretzels but at times they have some kosher crackers. great showers too
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: miles on July 28, 2011, 11:50:34 AM
Any good deals for car rentals
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on July 28, 2011, 03:10:21 PM
Any good deals for car rentals
That's dealer's department. PM him
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: miles on July 31, 2011, 05:11:02 PM
is there an arrival lounge for AA flights
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 04, 2011, 03:33:13 PM
What is the hechsherim situation in London? Which ones do people avoid? (Sorry if this is contreversial, just looking to get an idea)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on August 04, 2011, 04:05:50 PM
What is the hechsherim situation in London? Which ones do people avoid? (Sorry if this is contreversial, just looking to get an idea)

I think you're safe with Kedassia or KLBD.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 04, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
What about Sephardi Kashrut Authority or the London Beis Din?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: elikay on August 04, 2011, 04:29:19 PM
KLBD sounds like London Bes Din to me!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: elikay on August 04, 2011, 04:29:51 PM
http://www.google.com/m?q=klbd+london
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 04, 2011, 04:38:28 PM
thanks
what about sephardi kashrut authority?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 04, 2011, 05:18:43 PM
I think you're safe with Kedassia or KLBD.
Depends who you ask. Some won't eat KLBD but eat Federation (http://www.kfkosher.org/), and vice versa. All good restaurants are either KLBD or KF.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: sprint on August 07, 2011, 03:47:24 PM
ok - searched the forums - dont see anything except super's german site...anyone know the best option for sim or cell phone rental for great britain?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 12, 2011, 01:22:54 AM
We are flying VCE-LHR-CDG on BA...

If we have a Layover in LHR for exactly 3 hours (bags should be checked through), would there be enough time to leave the airport and get something to eat or go see something?
How much time would one recommend to be there for if we wanted to leave, see/eat something before our next flight?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yid on August 12, 2011, 01:30:37 AM
ok - searched the forums - dont see anything except super's german site...anyone know the best option for sim or cell phone rental for great britain?
you can buy a prepaid sim card at many stores in the uk and put it into an unlocked phone. or you can go to carphonewarehouse or a similar cellphone store in london and buy a phone and a prepaid sim card for as little as 5 or 10 pounds.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on August 12, 2011, 02:46:26 AM
We are flying VCE-LHR-CDG on BA...

If we have a Layover in LHR for exactly 3 hours (bags should be checked through), would there be enough time to leave the airport and get something to eat or go see something?
How much time would one recommend to be there for if we wanted to leave, see/eat something before our next flight?
There is a coffere shop in the terminal that sells kosher sandwiches
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 12, 2011, 08:47:26 AM
sometimes, it takes an hour just to clear customs
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 12, 2011, 12:37:45 PM
There is a coffere shop in the terminal that sells kosher sandwiches
http://www.ddsandwiches.com/heathrow.htm (http://www.ddsandwiches.com/heathrow.htm)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yisha on August 12, 2011, 01:31:09 PM
anything affiliated with DD forums?  ;D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 12, 2011, 02:20:02 PM
anything affiliated with DD forums?  ;D

Never thought of that ;)... Maybe Dan could get a coupon for us DD'ers...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on August 19, 2011, 02:23:37 PM
http://www.ddsandwiches.com/heathrow.htm (http://www.ddsandwiches.com/heathrow.htm)

Approximate cost please?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 20, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
Approximate cost please?

I think they range between £2 to about £5 depending if it's fish, meat etc.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on August 21, 2011, 03:31:27 PM
Just ate by White House in Hendon. Shwarma was probably the best I've ever had out of Israel, and better than a lot of Israeli joints. Service was excellent.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on August 22, 2011, 01:31:06 AM
Just ate by White House in Hendon. Shwarma was probably the best I've ever had out of Israel, and better than a lot of Israeli joints. Service was excellent.

+1
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 22, 2011, 01:46:40 PM
Just ate by White House in Hendon. Shwarma was probably the best I've ever had out of Israel, and better than a lot of Israeli joints. Service was excellent.
whats the hashgacha? on shamash it says its self supervised
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 22, 2011, 02:00:00 PM
whats the hashgacha? on shamash it says its self supervised

It's under KLBD (Glatt). Most people I know would eat there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: westman812 on September 28, 2011, 02:35:32 PM
Getting conflicting info; Flying TLV-LHR-JFK; will a cancelled AMEX platinum(and corresponding Priority Pass card) get me into the AA club in Terminal 3 LHR when flying AA economy LHR-JFK? I've heard the AMEX plat only works in domestic clubs if flying Economy(and I don't wanna rely on priority pass because it seems to be 50/50 chance on other forums)...would anyone know
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on November 01, 2011, 05:22:22 AM
Read through the whole thread and lots of info, thanks!
And a blast from the past from Steve2, always entertaining...

I'm going to be in London for half a day, 10:45am-9:35pm and am thinking of doing something similar to LAXtraveler (thanks for your short but informative post!)
I had a 12 hr layover there in the fall and had a great time exploring the city. We did tons in a short amount of time and enjoyed it immensely. We took the HeathrowExpress to save time (yes it is very expensive) to get to the city.

Some highlights:

London Eye
British Museum (for only a short time, its massive)
Walk by of Westminster Abbey and Big Ben/Parliament
Trafalgar Square
Buckingham Palace gates/guards view
Selfridges (kosher food inside as well - picked up for lunch)
Marble Arch/Speaker's Corner
My question is with regard to transportation.
It seems the Heathrow Express is the fastest way to get into town.
With such little time I'd probably pay the extra dollars.
It costs £32 from LHR-Paddington return.

But then getting around London itself, seems like you can walk mostly but I presume at one point or another ill need the underground. Does that get expensive?

Or, how about one of the open top tour buses? I usually don't like them as i prefer to do things my own way but with such a short time, could this be the best way to see London?

Alternatively I can rent a car for ~£25.
Is it hard to get around in London? Parking?
I do know how to drive on the wrong (left) side of the road.

So, what would you do?

Any tips are appreciated!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on November 01, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Read through the whole thread and lots of info, thanks!
And a blast from the past from Steve2, always entertaining...

I'm going to be in London for half a day, 10:45am-9:35pm and am thinking of doing something similar to LAXtraveler (thanks for your short but informative post!)My question is with regard to transportation.
It seems the Heathrow Express is the fastest way to get into town.
With such little time I'd probably pay the extra dollars.
It costs £32 from LHR-Paddington return.

But then getting around London itself, seems like you can walk mostly but I presume at one point or another ill need the underground. Does that get expensive?

Or, how about one of the open top tour buses? I usually don't like them as i prefer to do things my own way but with such a short time, could this be the best way to see London?

Alternatively I can rent a car for ~£25.
Is it hard to get around in London? Parking?
I do know how to drive on the wrong (left) side of the road.

So, what would you do?

Any tips are appreciated!

Have fun! It was a blast (although very tiring). Pay for the Heathrow Express... its worth the few dollars to save you tons of time. Also, when you're there we used the underground. We bought a pass for the day IIRC (but I'm not 100% sure about that). Otherwise we did a lot of walking and enjoyed the day.

Definitely do not get a car. London is infamous for bad traffic and there is a "city tax" imposed on cars going into the main center of town when you enter.

If you need anything else I can try to be more specific.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: westman812 on November 01, 2011, 01:12:13 PM
Read through the whole thread and lots of info, thanks!
And a blast from the past from Steve2, always entertaining...

I'm going to be in London for half a day, 10:45am-9:35pm and am thinking of doing something similar to LAXtraveler (thanks for your short but informative post!)My question is with regard to transportation.
It seems the Heathrow Express is the fastest way to get into town.
With such little time I'd probably pay the extra dollars.
It costs £32 from LHR-Paddington return.

But then getting around London itself, seems like you can walk mostly but I presume at one point or another ill need the underground. Does that get expensive?

Or, how about one of the open top tour buses? I usually don't like them as i prefer to do things my own way but with such a short time, could this be the best way to see London?

Alternatively I can rent a car for ~£25.
Is it hard to get around in London? Parking?
I do know how to drive on the wrong (left) side of the road.

So, what would you do?

Any tips are appreciated!

Just did this 2 weeks ago...it was a ton of fun. Transportation- we hired a mini cab which was excellent and much cheaper than heathrow express but we did that on a sunday, with a lot less traffic so the trip was quick. If you are going on a weekday, I'd def say use the heathrow express and tube from there. We went on the original double decker tour bus, yellow line, which really gave us a nice overview of the city in just 2.5 hours. Of course you could hop on and off and they give you a whole bunch of extras with the ticket, but we were way to tired to start running around. It can be expensive if going with the family, but everything in London is soo expensive, including Reubens which was very good as well. I'm a New Yorker and drive like one but even i would think twice about driving in London(we almost got hit a few times walking- the drivers are hazardous). But the tour is def the way to go! PM me with any questions!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on November 01, 2011, 01:53:04 PM
Just did this 2 weeks ago...it was a ton of fun. Transportation- we hired a mini cab which was excellent and much cheaper than heathrow express but we did that on a sunday, with a lot less traffic so the trip was quick. If you are going on a weekday, I'd def say use the heathrow express and tube from there. We went on the original double decker tour bus, yellow line, which really gave us a nice overview of the city in just 2.5 hours. Of course you could hop on and off and they give you a whole bunch of extras with the ticket, but we were way to tired to start running around. It can be expensive if going with the family, but everything in London is soo expensive, including Reubens which was very good as well. I'm a New Yorker and drive like one but even i would think twice about driving in London(we almost got hit a few times walking- the drivers are hazardous). But the tour is def the way to go! PM me with any questions!

Interesting you said you liked the tour. I have some family that did a day like we did with the bus and were really upset because it was very expensive and the traffic made it so hard to get from place to place. That is why we used the tube instead. It was cheaper and faster to get to more places. Maybe because it was a Sunday you had a better experience.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 01, 2011, 06:14:17 PM
Have fun! It was a blast (although very tiring). Pay for the Heathrow Express... its worth the few dollars to save you tons of time. Also, when you're there we used the underground. We bought a pass for the day IIRC (but I'm not 100% sure about that). Otherwise we did a lot of walking and enjoyed the day.

Definitely do not get a car. London is infamous for bad traffic and there is a "city tax" imposed on cars going into the main center of town when you enter.

If you need anything else I can try to be more specific.

+1. The underground is your best bet, as the congestion charge will add another £10 to your expenses and traffic is pretty heavy in all the tourist areas, plus parking is very difficult to find.

A one-day travelcard will cost you around £8.00, and yo could use it for buses or for the underground. You can find more information here (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/2625.aspx).


Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on November 01, 2011, 07:02:36 PM
Thanks everyone for all the tips.

Anyone know of any coupons for Heathtow Express?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mguy on December 14, 2011, 09:31:25 PM
In case it's helpful to anyone... A new kosher restaurant opened in London a few weeks ago: Deli West One (http://thedelilondon.com/). Haven't been there myself, but a welcome addition to the very few options within the city proper.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on December 20, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Might be OT, but which PriorityPass lounge should I visit at T3?

There are two SERVISAIR Lounges, and a 'No. 1' lounge.

Or can you answer this question (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11239.msg159603#msg159603)?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mguy on January 13, 2012, 02:45:40 PM
Just did a short visit to London… Stayed at the Hyatt Regency / Churchill. If you’ve got Hyatt points to burn, it’s a great hotel (especially if you get on to the Regency floor) in a great location. Couple blocks away from a daily minyan with breakfast at the Marble Arch Synagogue. And walking distance to three kosher food options (Selfridges food court, Deli West One, Reuben’s).

As an aside, flew EWR-LHR in BA's new first class cabin. Actually was the first commercial flight of this 77W aircraft, so was the first customer in that seat.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 14, 2012, 09:08:17 PM
Just did a short visit to London… Stayed at the Hyatt Regency / Churchill. If you’ve got Hyatt points to burn, it’s a great hotel (especially if you get on to the Regency floor) in a great location. Couple blocks away from a daily minyan with breakfast at the Marble Arch Synagogue. And walking distance to three kosher food options (Selfridges food court, Deli West One, Reuben’s).
 
It is a comfortable hotel in a good location but would not call it great. Maybe that its because in was coming from the Ph Paris and Zurich
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mguy on January 14, 2012, 09:55:52 PM
It is a comfortable hotel in a good location but would not call it great. Maybe that its because in was coming from the Ph Paris and Zurich

Funny you should mention PH Paris - I actually spent the next two nights there. Okay, maybe I was a tad too enthusiastic about the Hyatt Regency Churchill. But to me personally, I guess there's a limit to how good these types of city hotels could be (without resort facilities, unusual character, etc).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: karen on January 26, 2012, 04:30:30 PM
I will visit London for three days, is it worth to buy a 3 days London Pass? Thanks!
Title: 4 hour stopover in London heathrow. What to do?
Post by: YYZ Fan on August 25, 2012, 11:56:41 PM
I have a 4 hour connection in LHR.  What should I do?

Are there any express trains to take me downtown and show kids Big Ben Tower or Buckingham Palace or it's too short?



 


Title: Re: 4 hour stopover in London heathrow. What to do?
Post by: Dan on August 25, 2012, 11:57:12 PM
Too short.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on August 26, 2012, 02:09:02 AM
I have a 4 hour connection in LHR.  What should I do?

Are there any express trains to take me downtown and show kids Big Ben Tower or Buckingham Palace or it's too short?

4 hours is too short to get from 1 gate in Heathrow to the another
Title: Re: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on August 26, 2012, 02:34:03 AM
4 hours is too short to get from 1 gate in Heathrow to the another
Lol! True story...
And it takes about hour and half to get into town by the subway (tube). And with taxi 30 min but £40.
Title: Re: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on August 26, 2012, 03:37:21 AM
Lol! True story...
And it takes about hour and half to get into town by the subway (tube). And with taxi 30 min but £40.

true, but you can take the heathrow express and be at paddington in 20 minutes. It's expensive (18 pounds, i think) but sometimes there are 2 for 1 coupons and things like that...

4 hours is too short, though. Consider at least 45 minutes to get off the plane and clear passport control (if not longer) and at least an hour to be there before the next leg, you're left with 2 hours 15 minutes, which means you won't have time to do anything...

If anyone finds themselves in Bayswater, West End go visit the New West End Synagogue. It's an orthodox shul and they have minyan (when they get one) in the mornings and on shabbat...there's a chazzan and a choir, the whole experience...it's not golders green or hendon, but it's a nice (if small) community...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ReadsTheT&C on November 14, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Flying out of LHR early morning on 12/25.  Tube won't be running, neither will the Heathrow Express.  I need to get from Finchley to Heathrow by 6AM.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 14, 2012, 11:51:14 AM
Flying out of LHR early morning on 12/25.  Tube won't be running, neither will the Heathrow Express.  I need to get from Finchley to Heathrow by 6AM.  Any ideas?
Taxi?
Title: Re: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ReadsTheT&C on November 14, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
Taxi?
checked and it would be close ~55 GBP, any cheaper options?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 14, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
Walk?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on November 14, 2012, 12:15:41 PM
Walk?
Flying out of LHR early morning on 12/25.  Tube won't be running, neither will the Heathrow Express.  I need to get from Finchley to Heathrow by 6AM.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 14, 2012, 12:25:41 PM
Leave at 1am
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 14, 2012, 01:40:59 PM
checked and it would be close ~55 GBP, any cheaper options?

Did you try any local car services?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ReadsTheT&C on November 14, 2012, 03:11:15 PM
Did you try any local car services?
got a quote for 48 GBP, not sure how it works with tip over there
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 14, 2012, 03:28:46 PM
got a quote for 48 GBP, not sure how it works with tip over there

No tip expected.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 20, 2012, 11:50:39 PM
I plan on going back to Paris some time next year (Wife + I + Baby). I can go direct from JFK on Sunday morning or I can fly Sat. night to LHR (arrive Sun morn.) and depart to Paris on Monday morning. Giving me about a full day in London...worth the stop?

(i.e. an incredible restaurant would make it a yes)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 21, 2012, 12:14:21 AM
I don't get people who travel for food. I don't think anything is supposed that amazing.

Some cool sites though, but very expensive. I would say it's definitely worth a day
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 21, 2012, 12:41:34 AM
I don't get people who travel for food. I don't think anything is supposed that amazing.

Some cool sites though, but very expensive. I would say it's definitely worth a day
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't being so serious when I said that but a great restaurant is definitely a nice end to a day. Ok maybe I'll go for the day.

Sheraton Skyline here I come  8)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 21, 2012, 01:01:09 AM
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't being so serious when I said that but a great restaurant is definitely a nice end to a day. Ok maybe I'll go for the day.

Sheraton Skyline here I come  8)
Highlight for me was tower of London and the crown jewels, I think the only can't miss, after that lots of other options. Well I guess you have to go to Buckingham palace
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LWG on December 26, 2012, 10:55:35 PM
Hi I'm stopping in London for 12 hours and want to know if there is something special or different that i should not miss! I'm not talking about the basic tourist spots that everyone tells you to do - i mean something different, or amazing to see/go to. THANKS!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 27, 2012, 12:04:30 AM
tower of london
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on December 27, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
Hi I'm stopping in London for 12 hours and want to know if there is something special or different that i should not miss! I'm not talking about the basic tourist spots that everyone tells you to do - i mean something different, or amazing to see/go to. THANKS!

I've been in London a bunch of times and last time was my first visit to the Imperial War Museum (Lambeth). It's a fantastic museum if you're a history type. There's also a big center outside of London on a former air force base (IWM Duxford) but that's a serious schlep and not worth it if you're only there for one day.

One thing about the museum in Lambeth: it's not in the greatest area, so if you want to see London city life, take the tube there and walk, otherwise take a cab.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on February 17, 2013, 10:48:30 AM
Transportation getting around question:

Im gonna be arriving at lhr-
need to get to stanford hill, center of london and then travel to brussels ( by car/ train etc)
whats the best pass rail to get?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on February 17, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
To get from lhr to Stamford Hill by underground would take you 1h07m (in rush hour its the fastest way)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on February 17, 2013, 11:14:24 AM
which train? im seeig 1 and 40 min

makes me think i should stay overnight in  center of london next to attractions and then go for shabbis to stamford hill....

also which pass is worth getting if im gonna be there from thur- sun
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on February 17, 2013, 09:49:57 PM
just as a btw we should get a wiki topic for london like they have in other master threads...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 17, 2013, 11:37:49 PM
just as a btw we should get a wiki topic for london like they have in other master threads...
it should probably create itself,  right?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 11, 2013, 06:52:21 AM
Any kosher food in Heathrow airport? I land in terminal 5 leave from terminal 3 with about a four and a half hour layover. TIA.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 11, 2013, 07:39:56 AM
Any kosher food in Heathrow airport? I land in terminal 5 leave from terminal 3 with about a four and a half hour layover. TIA.

You could buy DD's sandwiches (Hermolis) at the airport. Here (http://www.ddsandwiches.com/heathrow.htm) is a link to a list of shops that have them.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 11, 2013, 01:13:47 PM
Didnt find any. Chilled in admirals club doing work so was busy anyways and had enough drinks there to fill me up.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
Started Wiki
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 05, 2013, 12:23:20 PM
So I will be having a whole day layover in London this Monday, I land around 8am and leave at 10pm that night.

Suggestions or comments on what to do that day?
Where should I go and where should I go for Lunch then Supper? (I was thinking Buckingham Palace, Big Ben, London Eye (Worth it?)
What time is the changing of the guard? Also how should I get around, how do I get to the main part of town.

Looking forward to getting some good ideas as it would be my first time there. Thanks

Let the ideas start in 3... 2... 1...  (I'm bored at work)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 05, 2013, 12:28:37 PM
I would definitely do the Tower of London. Buckingham Palace is worth a quick look, we did not see the changing of the guards. London Eye is extremely expensive.

Take the Heathrow Express to the city. It's much quicker than the subway (although also more expensive). Subway around town, make sure to get a day pass or something like that
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 05, 2013, 01:55:20 PM
^That

It is worth making it to Buckingham Palace for changing of the guards (11am) if possible. Walk over to Westminster Bridge to see Big Ben/The Houses of Parliament.  The London Eye could be interesting if the weather is nice, but is definitely expensive. Don't forget horse guards parade in Whitehall to get one of those pictures with the queens life guards.

As for food, Reuben's (http://www.reubensrestaurant.co.uk/) is a deli in the West End, and Isola Bella (http://www.isolabella.co.uk/) is a dairy/fish place in Westfield Mall near Shepherds Bush.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 05, 2013, 02:14:41 PM
^That

It is worth making it to Buckingham Palace for changing of the guards (11am) if possible. Walk over to Westminster Bridge to see Big Ben/The Houses of Parliament.  The London Eye could be interesting if the weather is nice, but is definitely expensive. Don't forget horse guards parade in Whitehall to get one of those pictures with the queens life guards.

As for food, Reuben's (http://www.reubensrestaurant.co.uk/) is a deli in the West End, and Isola Bella (http://www.isolabella.co.uk/) is a dairy/fish place in Westfield Mall near Shepherds Bush.

I take it that to get to the restaurants they are only a underground stop or few away? Thankfully I will have my good friend Mr. Google and his Maps along with me for the trip
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 05, 2013, 02:29:32 PM
I take it that to get to the restaurants they are only a underground stop or few away? Thankfully I will have my good friend Mr. Google and his Maps along with me for the trip

Depends from where. Here (http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/user/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en) is a handy trip planner which gives you routes and times for any journey.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 05, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
Another question? If I'm flying in with American and my next flight is with El Al. Where should or can I lock up my hand baggage for the day while I go out?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 10, 2013, 05:29:06 PM
Wiki updated.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 10, 2013, 06:12:19 PM
Wiki updated.

thanks!!!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: sunshine on April 10, 2013, 06:27:42 PM
Hello,

Im staying in London over night. What SPG or Hyatt Hotel would you recommend. Also what Restaurant would you recommend for Dinner.

Thanks
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 10, 2013, 08:58:52 PM
Another question? If I'm flying in with American and my next flight is with El Al. Where should or can I lock up my hand baggage for the day while I go out?
LHR? Try Left Baggage  (http://www.left-baggage.co.uk/)

£5.00 per item   0 - 4hrs
£8.50 per item   4 - 24hrs

£8.50 per item   +24hrs
(Each additional 24hrs or part thereof)
£4.25 per item   +168hrs
(Each additional 24hrs or part thereof)

Prices inclusive of VAT

I have used them in the past - very convenient.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on April 10, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
I take it that to get to the restaurants they are only a underground stop or few away? Thankfully I will have my good friend Mr. Google and his Maps along with me for the trip
^That

It is worth making it to Buckingham Palace for changing of the guards (11am) if possible. Walk over to Westminster Bridge to see Big Ben/The Houses of Parliament.  The London Eye could be interesting if the weather is nice, but is definitely expensive. Don't forget horse guards parade in Whitehall to get one of those pictures with the queens life guards.

As for food, Reuben's (http://www.reubensrestaurant.co.uk/) is a deli in the West End, and Isola Bella (http://www.isolabella.co.uk/) is a dairy/fish place in Westfield Mall near Shepherds Bush.
did you check out those restaurants? Did you like it?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on April 11, 2013, 08:35:15 AM
did you check out those restaurants? Did you like it?

i've been to Reuben's. Good "salt beef"  - what we americans would call corned beef. Other than that, eh.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 19, 2013, 01:41:23 PM
is one full day in london enough?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2013, 02:33:59 PM
Yes
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 19, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Yes

anything i must do there for the 1 day? il be going to paris for 3 days after
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 19, 2013, 02:46:29 PM
anything i must do there for the 1 day? il be going to paris for 3 days after
tower of London/crown jewels. stop by Buckingham palace (time for changing of the guards)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 19, 2013, 02:47:35 PM
Yes

I'm assuming that your ambiguity is just echoing his...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 19, 2013, 02:55:40 PM
I'm assuming that your ambiguity is just echoing his...
nope, Dan is not fond of London
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 19, 2013, 03:03:47 PM
nope, Dan is not fond of London

Based on this?

I was in London for a couple days about 6 years ago and all I remember is being absolutely shocked at the cost of the restaurants.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on May 28, 2013, 12:34:08 PM
My wife and I will be in London for just under a day. Here is our tentative schedule:

Arrive LHR ~ 6:30pm
Fleishig restaurant
Crash and chill at friends and relatives
Retaurant for breakfast near Golders Green (thinking Isola Bella because we need a place open before 9AM)
Trafalgar Square/Parliament/Big Ben
Changing of the Guards (Buckingham Palace)
Restaurant for lunch
Tower of London
LHR

What do you guys think about that schedule? Anything else that I will regret missing? Are there any other restaurants in Golders Green that open early? Also I need a recommendation for fleishig dinner. Thanks!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 28, 2013, 01:04:50 PM
you know that changing of the guards isnt every day, right?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on May 28, 2013, 01:45:50 PM
you know that changing of the guards isnt every day, right?

Yes thank you, but it seems this time of year it is.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 28, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
London eye is nice
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hudi on May 28, 2013, 07:59:56 PM
London eye is nice

It's a bit pricey.

Check out Isola Bella at Westfield Shopping Center. Great food, service and not too overpriced for London (milchig) you also get to check out the huge westfield mall. 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 28, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
It's a bit pricey.

Check out Isola Bella at Westfield Shopping Center. Great food, service and not too overpriced for London (milchig) you also get to check out the huge westfield mall.

If he is on a limited schedule, I think Westfield is a waste. Rather stick to the main attractions.

Isola Bella in GG is a good choice if you want to sit down to a full breakfast. For dinner - La Fiesta or White House, and Kaifeng (chinese) or 86 in Hendon.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on May 29, 2013, 07:51:56 AM
If he is on a limited schedule, I think Westfield is a waste. Rather stick to the main attractions.

Isola Bella in GG is a good choice if you want to sit down to a full breakfast. For dinner - La Fiesta or White House, and Kaifeng (chinese) or 86 in Hendon.

Exactly, we're trying to save time as much as possible. Is there a take-out breakfast place in GG? Also is there anything kosher for lunch near Buckingham Palace?

We're going directly from the Tower of London to LHR. We can wither go directly via the Tube or we can take a short ferry across the Thames. Is it a nice ferry? Does anyone know the approximate cost? (It seems to be part of the public transport system but I can't find prices anywhere).

London eye is nice
I've heard very mixed reviews, it doesnt seem to be a must and as Hudi said it's a bit pricey as well.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on August 08, 2013, 01:19:54 AM
Has anyone tried out this restaurant 1701?

http://www.restaurant1701.co.uk/menu/lunch-and-dinner/entrees/
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on August 12, 2013, 02:03:53 AM
have a 5.5 hour stopover in london...anything in the airport or surroundings? foodwise? besides DD's sandwiches
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on August 12, 2013, 08:26:39 AM
have a 5.5 hour stopover in london...anything in the airport or surroundings? foodwise? besides DD's sandwiches
Duty Free thats about it, 5.5 hours is a killer IMO.
If you can get into a lounge that should make killing time a bit easier.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 14, 2013, 06:21:03 PM
have a 5.5 hour stopover in london...anything in the airport or surroundings? foodwise? besides DD's sandwiches
Which airport?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 14, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
Which airport?

Unless it is LCY (which I highly doubt), it doesn't matter which one, he won't have enough time to leave.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 15, 2013, 09:38:49 AM
Unless it is LCY (which I highly doubt), it doesn't matter which one, he won't have enough time to leave.
I have gone to the city in a smaller window.
If you just have a carry on, and you get off & out of airport quickly - you can spend 2 hours in the city if you need to - just bear in mind that in LHR & LGW you have to be past security 35 minutes or more before the flight or you will be automatically removed.

(I usually travel to London 10-12 times a year - i have perfected my routine :-) )
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on August 15, 2013, 01:22:23 PM
how do you get from LHR to the city? Heathrow Express?

I have gone to the city in a smaller window.
If you just have a carry on, and you get off & out of airport quickly - you can spend 2 hours in the city if you need to - just bear in mind that in LHR & LGW you have to be past security 35 minutes or more before the flight or you will be automatically removed.

(I usually travel to London 10-12 times a year - i have perfected my routine :-) )
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on August 15, 2013, 04:09:39 PM
how do you get from LHR to the city? Heathrow Express?
Probably the fastest way but you could take the tube /underground
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on August 15, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
Probably the fastest way but you could take the tube /underground
IIRC the underground will not get you to LCY.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on August 15, 2013, 05:36:36 PM
IIRC the underground will not get you to LCY.
He was asking about travel from LHR to the city not LCY
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on August 15, 2013, 06:18:06 PM
He was asking about travel from LHR to the city not LCY
Your right, was a bit confused.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 15, 2013, 07:42:55 PM
how do you get from LHR to the city? Heathrow Express?
Sometimes I do the express, early mornings the Tube is only 30 mins to some parts of the city. /

Really depends on where you want to go.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on August 27, 2013, 10:34:17 AM
Restaurant 1701 was amazing. Better food than almost any restaurant, anywhere. Small portions, and complex dishes. They are not open for dinner on Mondays, so we went for lunch. check came out to $175.

http://www.restaurant1701.co.uk/ (http://www.restaurant1701.co.uk/)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Racer7400 on September 15, 2013, 12:50:44 PM
just booked a ticket for my father in law and he tells me that he only has a south african passport and isn't a american to get a american passport. anyone have any idea how hard/easy it its for him to get a visa to enter england? the ticket is for oct. 2. TIA
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on October 06, 2013, 12:50:02 AM
Any Hotel recommendations for the Golders Green / Hendon area?(NOT using points) are there Kosher eateries in Central Downtown London(if i book a hotel with priceline)?.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 06, 2013, 02:06:20 AM
Any Hotel recommendations for the Golders Green / Hendon area?(NOT using points) are there Kosher eateries in Central Downtown London(if i book a hotel with priceline)?.

Downtown there's Reuben's Deli, which also has a sit down restaurant downstairs. Food was better than I expected, so no problems there. For more upscale there's 1701 by the Bevis Marks Synagogue.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: 972sg212 on October 06, 2013, 02:23:23 AM
Any Hotel recommendations for the Golders Green / Hendon area?(NOT using points) are there Kosher eateries in Central Downtown London(if i book a hotel with priceline)?.

http://thepillarhotel.com
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 09, 2013, 08:11:14 PM
looking for some help. I may be going to london for 2 days 1 night. If i want to stay near all the tourist attractions is there kosher food near by?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 09, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
looking for some help. I may be going to london for 2 days 1 night. If i want to stay near all the tourist attractions is there kosher food near by?

The tourist attractions are quite spread out. If you are referring to the palace, Big Ben etc., there is nothing Kosher within walking distance. However the underground (subway) is very convenient for getting from a to b.

Which hotels were you looking at?
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Post by: myb821 on October 09, 2013, 09:27:46 PM
The tourist attractions are quite spread out. If you are referring to the palace, Big Ben etc., there is nothing Kosher within walking distance. However the underground (subway) is very convenient for getting from a to b.

Which hotels were you looking at?
im looking at the hiltons because I have free night any recommendations
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Post by: ChAiM'l on October 10, 2013, 07:48:40 AM
im looking at the hiltons because I have free night any recommendations

Hilton Park Lane is situated in a great area, and if you could get a room on a higher floor, you'll get some decent views. Also not too far from Reuben's (http://www.reubensrestaurant.co.uk/about.html).
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Post by: myb821 on October 10, 2013, 08:18:40 AM
Thanks. Is it a nice hotel?
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Post by: Kabrams1618 on November 10, 2013, 12:14:02 AM
I want to use ihg points for London this summer.
Which hotel is best with the least number of points

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Post by: ChAiM'l on November 10, 2013, 05:25:16 AM
I want to use ihg points for London this summer.
Which hotel is best with the least number of points

Does location matter?
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Post by: Kabrams1618 on November 10, 2013, 12:24:51 PM
We will come into healthrow so somewhere where we can get public transportation to the main sites
And somewhere that we can get from the airport to the hotel without much trouble.
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Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2013, 09:09:47 AM
We will come into healthrow so somewhere where we can get public transportation to the main sites
And somewhere that we can get from the airport to the hotel without much trouble.
london transport is a very good system you can basically get all over by public transport.
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Post by: plainbachur on November 26, 2013, 02:49:05 AM
I'm flying to London for a wedding I'm using BA points in F class (yes high fuel charge) the wedding is on Thursday night so I'm leaving NY on Wednesday night should I take the 9:30pm flight which arrives 9:25am or 10:55pm which arrives 11am I was never in London before I would like to see changing of guards but on their website doesn't show schedule for February yet. If I land 9:25am will I make it? What else is there to see before wedding. I am returning Friday 8:20am flight so I have basically only Thursday afternoon to do some touring
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Post by: Ergel on November 26, 2013, 08:51:10 AM
I'm flying to London for a wedding I'm using BA points in F class (yes high fuel charge) the wedding is on Thursday night so I'm leaving NY on Wednesday night should I take the 9:30pm flight which arrives 9:25am or 10:55pm which arrives 11am I was never in London before I would like to see changing of guards but on their website doesn't show schedule for February yet. If I land 9:25am will I make it? What else is there to see before wedding. I am returning Friday 8:20am flight so I have basically only Thursday afternoon to do some touring
Why would you not go earlier?
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Post by: plainbachur on November 26, 2013, 08:58:08 AM
Why would you not go earlier?
I want leave as late as possible due to other obligations
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Post by: Ergel on November 26, 2013, 09:35:12 AM
I want leave as late as possible due to other obligations
There's plenty of stuff to do. I think there standard off season times for changing of the guards. I can't answer for your other obligations but you will find plenty to do
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Post by: plainbachur on November 26, 2013, 10:41:41 AM
There's plenty of stuff to do. I think there standard off season times for changing of the guards. I can't answer for your other obligations but you will find plenty to do
how long is express transportation from lhr to palace?
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Post by: Ergel on November 26, 2013, 11:10:55 AM
how long is express transportation from lhr to palace?
Probably around 45 minutes (heathrow express to a bus). But it's expensive
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Post by: plainbachur on November 26, 2013, 11:11:51 AM
Probably around 45 minutes (heathrow express to a bus). But it's expensive
cheaper then taxi? Faster then taxi?
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Post by: Ergel on November 26, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
cheaper then taxi? Faster then taxi?
Yes, maybe
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Post by: Kabrams1618 on January 26, 2014, 10:51:20 AM
If I have choice of airports to fly into which is the best as far as transportation and cost of transportation into the city.
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Post by: Kabrams1618 on January 26, 2014, 10:53:28 AM
I have marriott points as well as 2 free hyatt certificates .
Where should I stay in london
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Post by: yhakak on January 26, 2014, 04:17:44 PM
If I have choice of airports to fly into which is the best as far as transportation and cost of transportation into the city.
If you can fly into London City, that's ideal (you can get right on the DLR and the underground), but there aren't many flights.
Other than that - Heathrow and Gatwick both have trains into the city - Heathrow to Paddington in 18 mins, I believe, Gatwick to Victoria station in about half an hour. Not cheap (more or less the same price, about 18 GBP), but fast.

There's a train from Stansted to London, it takes about an hour because it stops on the way.

Luton is to be avoided. It is nowhere. 
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Post by: Kabrams1618 on February 01, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
What is the best way to get an Oyster card for London.  Can you get it online or is it best to purchase it in London
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Post by: MC on February 01, 2014, 10:01:22 PM
You can only purchase online if you're sending to a UK address. You can get them in stations. Or pick one up in heathrow.
You can also use this link to find a list of places that sell near where you'll be: http://ticketstoplocator.tfl.gov.uk/LocationLocator/
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Post by: Suave on February 07, 2014, 01:14:56 PM
If I have choice of airports to fly into which is the best as far as transportation and cost of transportation into the city.
IMHO, It would depend on where you need to get it, I liked LCY for most London destinations, LHR for Stamford Hill and center (Tube takes a while, but ipad movies) LGW for Golders Green
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Post by: smart brit on February 07, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
IMHO, It would depend on where you need to get it, I liked LCY for most London destinations, LHR for Stamford Hill and center (Tube takes a while, but ipad movies) LGW for Golders Green
lhr for Stamford Hill??? Rather lcy it's a 20 min drive
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Post by: Suave on February 07, 2014, 03:47:35 PM
lhr for Stamford Hill??? Rather lcy it's a 20 min drive
Depending what time of day, note how i said "I liked LCY for most London destinations" LCY only has a flew flight options.
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Post by: seemorehabs on February 10, 2014, 08:59:29 AM
i'll be in lonodn area with limited time to tour, i'd like a hotel recommendation with nearby minyan and kosher food, oh yeah and affordable rate :)
i will be downtown for business but dont need to stay there
thanks
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Post by: Frostboot on February 17, 2014, 07:22:44 PM
Will be in london this coming shabbos.  Has anyone stayed at Hyatt Regency Churchill for shabbos? Are there any shabbos issues that are good to know about in advance?
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Post by: Menachemfrombp on March 19, 2014, 03:20:02 PM
ill b flying to london with wife and baby (under a year old) for a wedding in the summer, i have 180k united points and abt 150k American airlines points, whats my best way to go?
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Post by: ChAiM'l on March 19, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
ill b flying to london with wife and baby (under a year old) for a wedding in the summer, i have 180k united points and abt 150k American airlines points, whats my best way to go?

Post here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0).
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Post by: Menachemfrombp on March 20, 2014, 11:16:13 AM
thnx
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Post by: @Yehuda on March 25, 2014, 09:47:00 PM
Is 1hr 45min enough time between landing at LGW and travelling to LHR to catch a flight?
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Post by: smart brit on March 25, 2014, 10:48:44 PM
Is 1hr 45min enough time between landing at LGW and travelling to LHR to catch a flight?
No almost impossible
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Post by: @Yehuda on March 25, 2014, 11:00:42 PM
No almost impossible
Thanks, figured as much.
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Post by: @Yehuda on April 01, 2014, 06:55:07 PM
Before reading through the whole thread (which I plan on doing) to plan specific things, would you say 3.5 days + Shabbos is enough to do "everything"?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on April 02, 2014, 11:10:16 AM
Before reading through the whole thread (which I plan on doing) to plan specific things, would you say 3.5 days + Shabbos is enough to do "everything"?
IMO definitely. We hit up basically "everything" in <24 hours!
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Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 12:15:30 PM
IMO definitely. We hit up basically "everything" in <24 hours!
Wow, really?? Maybe I don't want so much time there then...
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Post by: Ergel on April 02, 2014, 12:16:38 PM
IMO definitely. We hit up basically "everything" in <24 hours!
Definitely need 2 days. Was sthere Friday/Shabbos and left not having seen everything we wanted.
I would probably do 2 days + shabbos.
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Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 12:40:19 PM
Definitely need 2 days. Was sthere Friday/Shabbos and left not having seen everything we wanted.
I would probably do 2 days + shabbos.
Okay great. Will move some things in my itinerary but it'll still prob be Shabbos, 2 full days, and 2 partial (flight) days. Thanks - almost done here! ;)
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Post by: YankyDoodle on April 02, 2014, 03:01:08 PM
Definitely need 2 days. Was sthere Friday/Shabbos and left not having seen everything we wanted.
Don't get me wrong, I definitely would like to go back one day but what else did you want to see there? We saw changing of the guards and Big Ben, hung at Trafalgar square and toured Tower of London all in about 6 hours. Unless you want to go to Stonehenge!

Wow, really?? Maybe I don't want so much time there then...
If you have spare time, by all means stay longer. If you are deciding between an extra day in Paris or Venice compared to an extra day on London, go for the former.
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Post by: Ergel on April 02, 2014, 03:06:12 PM
Don't get me wrong, I definitely would like to go back one day but what else did you want to see there? We saw changing of the guards and Big Ben, hung at Trafalgar square and toured Tower of London all in about 6 hours. Unless you want to go to Stonehenge!
Did those things as well. Would've toured the parliament and gone to the Churchill museum. We were there on a Friday and ran out of time. Maybe a long full day would be enough. But I'd probably rather do two.
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Post by: MC on April 02, 2014, 03:26:54 PM
If you have the extra time go to Windsor too
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Post by: YankyDoodle on April 02, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
Did those things as well. Would've toured the parliament and gone to the Churchill museum. We were there on a Friday and ran out of time. Maybe a long full day would be enough. But I'd probably rather do two.
I hear ya. I guess it really depends what you would do with that day instead. I would still rather an extra day in one of the other European cities than do the "extras in London".
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Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 12:05:19 PM
Should I try to schedule a day or two layover here and do a mini vacation?

Any suggestions on what I should do?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 09, 2014, 12:14:19 PM
Should I try to schedule a day or two layover here and do a mini vacation?

Any suggestions on what I should do?
I don't expect a post like this from chucky
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Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 12:18:13 PM
I don't expect a post like this from chucky

Why not? I want to go someplace next week on the way back to ISrael. Any suggesstions?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 09, 2014, 12:39:50 PM
Why not? I want to go someplace next week on the way back to ISrael. Any suggesstions?
I enjoyed London. You can see the previous discussion for things to do (and that is why I didn't expect such a post from you). It's an expensive city. What are your other options?
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Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 12:40:55 PM
I enjoyed London. You can see the previous discussion for things to do (and that is why I didn't expect such a post from you). It's an expensive city. What are your other options?

Too lazy to read today. Maybe Thailand?
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Post by: Ergel on May 09, 2014, 02:02:59 PM
Too lazy to read today. Maybe Thailand?
Hypocrite.
Thailand for a two day stop over?
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Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 02:06:03 PM

Hypocrite.
Thailand for a two day stop over?

Lol. Yup. Ending up going to hkg. Flying cx F there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 07:34:48 AM
Read through the entire thread last night. (1UPed you chuck ;))

I'm in London for a long weekend. I want to stay somewhere with points, so I have reservations on hold at HIE in GG and Marriott Marble Arch. Any help deciding which one to stay at?
Both are right next to a Shul with daily Minyanim and free breakfast (served at HIE/served at MA Synagogue). MAR is right in town, walking distance to Reuben's and Deli West One (where I can also order Shabbos takeout) and can easily get to the sites of London. HIE is OOT and needs a 15 min walk to the tube and then a 20 min tube to town, but is near many more restaurants. Is that the only pro of staying in GG over staying in town? I recognize town restaurants are expensive, but c'mon it's all going to be expensive, why not stay at the nicer/more convenient hotel, right?
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Post by: Ergel on May 13, 2014, 07:59:56 AM
For sure. You can also walk around the city on shabbos if you stay in marble Arch.
Find out the chief lord's shabbos schedule (I believe it's online somewhere). He is sometimes in marble Arch and a pleasure to listen to
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 08:13:49 AM
For sure. You can also walk around the city on shabbos if you stay in marble Arch.
Find out the chief lord's shabbos schedule (I believe it's online somewhere). He is sometimes in marble Arch and a pleasure to listen to
I know your opinion already :) Thanks for the tip on the Rabbi.
A friend who lives in GG seemed to really think I should stay in GG. But perhaps they just don't realize that MA is a very valid option.
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Post by: sharabob on May 13, 2014, 08:21:40 AM
I'd definitely go with Marble Arch.  They're very friendly at the shul and you're more than likely to get an invite if you're interested.
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 08:23:38 AM
I'd definitely go with Marble Arch.  They're very friendly at the shul and you're more than likely to get an invite if you're interested.
Thanks! That would be nice, just not sure if that would happen before I had to order takeout.
BTW Ergel, when you were there for Shabbos, was there a non-electric hotel entrance?
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Post by: Ergel on May 13, 2014, 08:27:23 AM
I'd definitely go with Marble Arch.  They're very friendly at the shul and you're more than likely to get an invite if you're interested.
I didn't (I wasn't interested anyways). It's pretty quiet there during the summer. A lot of the regulars are away.
The Hyatt doesn't have electric entrance. We used a stairwell through the kitchen to get upstairs.

One really annoying thing was the TV turned (to the hotel 'airshow') on while we were eating dinner and we called someone up to turn it off (be'remiza, they were very confused).
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 08:38:49 AM
I didn't (I wasn't interested anyways). It's pretty quiet there during the summer. A lot of the regulars are away.
The Hyatt doesn't have electric entrance. We used a stairwell through the kitchen to get upstairs.

One really annoying thing was the TV turned (to the hotel 'airshow') on while we were eating dinner and we called someone up to turn it off (be'remiza, they were very confused).
Oh right, forgot you stayed at Hyatt not Marriott. That's really annoying though.
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Post by: efflpetzel on May 13, 2014, 09:08:31 AM

Read through the entire thread last night. (1UPed you chuck ;))

I'm in London for a long weekend. I want to stay somewhere with points, so I have reservations on hold at HIE in GG and Marriott Marble Arch. Any help deciding which one to stay at?
Both are right next to a Shul with daily Minyanim and free breakfast (served at HIE/served at MA Synagogue). MAR is right in town, walking distance to Reuben's and Deli West One (where I can also order Shabbos takeout) and can easily get to the sites of London. HIE is OOT and needs a 15 min walk to the tube and then a 20 min tube to town, but is near many more restaurants. Is that the only pro of staying in GG over staying in town? I recognize town restaurants are expensive, but c'mon it's all going to be expensive, why not stay at the nicer/more convenient hotel, right?
which HIE? The one in Hendon?
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 09:21:28 AM
which HIE? The one in Hendon?
GG, on Regents Park Road.
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 10:15:18 AM
Made a list of all the activities people discussed here and have been plotting them out on Google Maps to see what to do when. Found it really cool that when I entered Imperial War Museum, Gmaps told me, "This place has been reported closed." Further investigation found that it's closed until July 19th. Not sure if I would have gone anyway, but really cool that Gmaps knew that.
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 11:08:56 AM
Finished my list. I'm in London for 2 full days (not incl. Shabbos) and 2 half days. Can I get some thoughts?

1st full day
Buckingham Palace - changing of the guard + tour
Parliament
Big Ben
Check out Trafalgar Square
Check out Westminster Abbey
Whitehall picture with guards

If that's even too little for one day, should I also do the British Museum and Tower of London that day? (Going to pass on London Eye most likely.) If what I've listed is good for one day, then I would do those 2 on one of the half days.

2nd full day
Stonehenge
Bath/Windsor - what's there to do in these places?

1st half day
(If can't be done on 1st full day)
British Museum
Tower of London

2nd half day
Don't know why no one has talked about this but... Harry Potter Warner Bros. Studio Tour!! 1/2 hour drive from downtown.
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Post by: ChAiM'l on May 13, 2014, 11:48:36 AM
Don't know why no one has talked about this but... Harry Potter Warner Bros. Studio Tour!! 1/2 hour drive from downtown.

It's in the wiki. Also, realistically it's more than 1/2 hour from Central London. I would suggest leaving from Golders Green as it is near the highway leading to there.
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 11:57:51 AM
It's in the wiki. Also, realistically it's more than 1/2 hour from Central London. I would suggest leaving from Golders Green as it is near the highway leading to there.
lol I knew I saw it somewhere (I didn't just think of it on my own) but nothing came up in the search, so I just assumed I saw it somewhere else.
But my base will be Marble Arch, not GG. Was going to check if public transport exists for that route or otherwise rent a car.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on May 13, 2014, 11:59:36 AM
Your first day has a lot but it's all in the area and with the exception of the Buckingham Tour nothing takes so long so you might as well get it all in... Museum and Tower included. Don't know if you're at all interested but the National Gallery is in Trafalgar Square and it's free so you can walk in and when you get bored walk right out without feeling like you wasted any money ;) Will the Imperial War Museum be open yet when you're there? I've been told it's worth seeing but it was closed last summer when I was there.

Windsor was the highlight of my trip. The castle is incredible and the quaint village is something out of a book. Highly recommended IMHO. 
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Your first day has a lot but it's all in the area and with the exception of the Buckingham Tour nothing takes so long so you might as well get it all in... Museum and Tower included. Don't know if you're at all interested but the National Gallery is in Trafalgar Square and it's free so you can walk in and when you get bored walk right out without feeling like you wasted any money ;) Will the Imperial War Museum be open yet when you're there? I've been told it's worth seeing but it was closed last summer when I was there.

Windsor was the highlight of my trip. The castle is incredible and the quaint village is something out of a book. Highly recommended IMHO.
Right, it'll be busy. My first day in London is the half day. Maybe I'll try to do Tower of London/British Museum that day just to "get them out of the way". You said nothing was long besides tour of the Palace. Are there tours of Big Ben and Parliament - or do you just go to see the buildings?
Good to know about the National Gallery. Not so into paintings, but if it's free, and we have time, we might as well stop in.
Missing the War museum by a week.

Great! Will have to go there then. Did you also do Bath or Stonehenge?
Gmaps has my hotel to Stonehenge to Bath to Windsor to my hotel at about 5 hours. Not the craziest thing if I rent a car. Just not sure if all those places are worth it. Windsor is just over an hour RT from my hotel. Might be worth doing just that.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on May 13, 2014, 12:32:06 PM
There are tours of Big Ben etc but I didn't do them. I preferred to just see everything myself. I would have loved to see Stonehenge but I tried to stay close to London (too scared to rent a car with the whole opposite side of the street driving lol) so I only went to Windsor. The train isn't expensive and is very easy to get.
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Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
There are tours of Big Ben etc but I didn't do them. I preferred to just see everything myself. I would have loved to see Stonehenge but I tried to stay close to London (too scared to rent a car with the whole opposite side of the street driving lol) so I only went to Windsor. The train isn't expensive and is very easy to get.
Oooo good point!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 13, 2014, 01:51:09 PM
Oooo good point!
Yeah, especially for a single day rental, it's not worth it. By the time you figure it out you have to return the car.

I did it for a week, driving on crazy Scottish roads. Quite the experience
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 14, 2014, 07:29:39 AM
i dont think you can do tower of london AND british museum in a half a day

also, you should find out which days the changing if the guard is, iirc, they dont do it every day in the summer
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 14, 2014, 02:54:10 PM
i dont think you can do tower of london AND british museum in a half a day

also, you should find out which days the changing if the guard is, iirc, they dont do it every day in the summer
Thanks for the info! Will look into the days.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on June 02, 2014, 10:01:54 PM
I'm seriously considering spending a full day and night in London (as part of a larger trip this summer).  From reading this thread I've decided to visit the Tower of London.  Is there any particular hotel which would be ideal for traveling from LHR, going to the Tower of London and availability of kosher food?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 06, 2014, 03:05:56 PM
I see that Heathrow Express has a promo code DUO12 that gets 2 pax RT tix for 50GBP As opposed to a regular RT being 34GBP pp. That the best way to get to London? My hotel is a 5 min taxi/15 min walk from the Paddington station (seems like the only place Heathrow Express lets off).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on June 07, 2014, 05:58:47 PM
I see that Heathrow Express has a promo code DUO12 that gets 2 pax RT tix for 50GBP As opposed to a regular RT being 34GBP pp. That the best way to get to London? My hotel is a 5 min taxi/15 min walk from the Paddington station (seems like the only place Heathrow Express lets off).

It's certainly the fastest way. You can also take the regular underground...it's cheaper but takes a lot longer.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 01:15:50 AM
It's certainly the fastest way. You can also take the regular underground...it's cheaper but takes a lot longer.
Thanks, yeah seems like it's just more practical.

Has anyone done Harry Potter Studio Tour? Is it worth the $80-100 pp it's going to cost me including travel?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 02:23:10 PM
Anyone do the full day trip to Windsor/Bath/Stonehenge?
I found a tour that will pick me up from my hotel and go to all 3 places and includes entrance fees for about $115/person. Entrance fees to these places cost a total of about $70. Renting a car or taking public transportation probably wouldn't be much cheaper (if at all) than the $45 difference there, plus there's a tour guide - you're not just showing up to these places alone.

Seem like a good deal?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 08, 2014, 11:59:20 PM
Someone has got to have done things in London here right...?
Tour of Parliament or just go to see the building among other sites like Big Ben, Westminster Abbey?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on June 09, 2014, 12:11:34 AM
Someone has got to have done things in London here right...?
Tour of Parliament or just go to see the building among other sites like Big Ben, Westminster Abbey?
For the center of London I think just going around your self is sufficient. There is tons to see and it is very tourist friendly.
I have never done tour of Parliament tho...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 12:13:44 AM
For the center of London I think just going around your self is sufficient. There is tons to see and it is very tourist friendly.
I have never done tour of Parliament tho...
Thanks - yeah I figured just walking around will keep up plenty busy. Was curious whether it's worth paying for a tour, but I guess we can just decide once we get there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 09, 2014, 10:36:06 AM
also, you should find out which days the changing if the guard is, iirc, they dont do it every day in the summer

In the winter it's usually every other day and in the summer is usually every day. Subject to weather. The weather puts them off schedule and they change the plan, they don't stick to the original schedule so you want to check close to your trip.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on June 09, 2014, 10:41:01 AM
In the winter it's usually every other day and in the summer is usually every day. Subject to weather. The weather puts them off schedule and they change the plan, they don't stick to the original schedule so you want to check close to your trip.
I made the trip to London just for that. Checked the schedule. Hundreds of people waiting for it to start. After it was supposed to start someone comes over & says they're not doing it today. We should come back tomorrow.  :(
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 09, 2014, 10:42:08 AM
I made the trip to London just for that. Checked the schedule. Hundreds of people waiting for it to start. After it was supposed to start someone comes over & says they're not doing it today. We should come back tomorrow.  :(
Sounds like the place I'm talking about. :-(
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 10:43:08 AM
Sounds like the place I'm talking about. :-(
Blech. I hope that doesn't happen. I'm there for a few days, but really only 1 morning works out well for this. Hope it happens :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on June 09, 2014, 10:45:15 AM
Sounds like the place I'm talking about. :-(
& it was beautiful weather
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 09, 2014, 10:54:07 AM

Blech. I hope that doesn't happen. I'm there for a few days, but really only 1 morning works out well for this. Hope it happens :)
It's supposed to happen every day in June unless it's very wet weather which is unlikely. FYI they have a changing of the guard ceremony at Windsor too, if you end up going there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 09, 2014, 10:55:26 AM
It's supposed to happen every day in June unless it's very wet weather which is unlikely. FYI they have a changing of the guard ceremony at Windsor too, if you end up going there.
And in Canada as well.
From reports, it's just not the same.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 09, 2014, 10:57:30 AM

And in Canada as well.
From reports, it's just not the same.
Canada??
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 09, 2014, 10:58:09 AM
Blech. I hope that doesn't happen. I'm there for a few days, but really only 1 morning works out well for this. Hope it happens :)
Make sure you get there early enough. I think it's called for 11:00, if you come after 10:30 you won't see anything. Try closer to 10:00.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 09, 2014, 10:59:49 AM
Canada??
They have changing of the queens guards somewhere in Ontario (I think they're guarding one of her parks there) but Windsor and Ontario both aren't the same as the display at Buckingham palace.
Title: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 09, 2014, 11:02:37 AM
They have changing of the queens guards somewhere in Ontario (I think they're guarding one of her parks there)
Interesting, I didn't know that!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on June 09, 2014, 11:03:38 AM
Canada??
Parliament Hill in Ottawa. Most of the guardsmen there are college students.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 09, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
Interesting, I didn't know that!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceremonial_Guard

From a quick Google search.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 11:45:37 AM
There's also one at Whitehall. Are you serious about being there at 10AM for an 11:30 "show"?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 09, 2014, 11:49:45 AM
There's also one at Whitehall. Are you serious about being there at 10AM for an 11:30 "show"?
Sorry, I thought it started at 11.
If it starts at 11:30 then you should be there before 11. The earlier you come the better view you'll have.

This is from my experience and what I've heard from others.

Feel free to CMIIW.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on June 09, 2014, 11:57:08 AM

There's also one at Whitehall. Are you serious about being there at 10AM for an 11:30 "show"?
Hehe now you know why I didn't make it to the ceremony the entire week I was in London ;)
But I've been on previous trips, and yes you really should come early if you want a decent view.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 11:59:30 AM
Sorry, I thought it started at 11.
If it starts at 11:30 then you should be there before 11. The earlier you come the better view you'll have.

This is from my experience and what I've heard from others.

Feel free to CMIIW.
Sorry, I read your post wrong in terms of how much time to allot. But yes, I saw that it starts at 11:30.
Hehe now you know why I didn't make it to the ceremony the entire week I was in London ;)
But I've been on previous trips, and yes you really should come early if you want a decent view.

I guess we can/should try to be there early...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on June 09, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
If you don't mind standing pressed against a gate for an hour.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 12:48:59 PM
If you don't mind standing pressed against a gate for an hour.
Pick your poison, I guess.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on June 09, 2014, 01:10:09 PM
Pick your poison, I guess.
I got both poisons. Stood for an hour & didn't get to see anything.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 09, 2014, 01:39:39 PM
Don't know if this interests anyone but there is a changing of the guard tour that my wife and I did in London and it was really a fun way to see it. It's led by a very energetic and interesting fellow named Matt and he basically takes on a walking tour starting from where the guards get ready then you march alongside them to where they switch, etc.... You get to see alot more than standing in front squished with loads of people. And it was pretty cheap (for London standards at least). Here is a link to his website:
http://www.funlondontours.com/london-walking-tours/changing-the-guard
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: The Oatmeal bar on June 11, 2014, 07:51:36 AM
I'm gonna be in London from the 19th-24th this month visiting my grandma in stamford hill. Is anyone in London that would be able to show me around one day? My grandma is cool, but not that cool  8) lol, B'H she's awesome just wont be able to go out so often with me.. Im 20 (guy)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on June 13, 2014, 12:55:33 PM
I'm seriously considering spending a full day and night in London (as part of a larger trip this summer).  From reading this thread I've decided to visit the Tower of London.  Is there any particular hotel which would be ideal for traveling from LHR, going to the Tower of London and availability of kosher food?

Bump.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: A European on June 19, 2014, 10:23:39 AM
Hi dear friends!

I need urgent info for transportation from STANSTED AIRPORT to  London Golders Green for tomorrow morning.

I see the cheapest option is nationalexpress.com but it does look like they charge for luggage.

It is for 6 Kids and 1 adult, does anyone know of a better option?

TIA!   
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 19, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
Hi dear friends!

I need urgent info for transportation from STANSTED AIRPORT to  London Golders Green for tomorrow morning.

I see the cheapest option is nationalexpress.com but it does look like they charge for luggage.

It is for 6 Kids and 1 adult, does anyone know of a better option?

TIA!   
Last time I used it, they didn't charge for luggage but that was about 5 years ago.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 19, 2014, 12:02:00 PM
Try the local car services (http://www.frumlondon.co.uk/directorylisting.asp?CategoryID=685&abcid=M).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: A European on June 19, 2014, 02:58:24 PM
Try the local car services (http://www.frumlondon.co.uk/directorylisting.asp?CategoryID=685&abcid=M).
Thanks!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on June 24, 2014, 12:54:10 PM
I'm gonna be in London from the 19th-24th this month visiting my grandma in stamford hill. Is anyone in London that would be able to show me around one day? My grandma is cool, but not that cool  8) lol, B'H she's awesome just wont be able to go out so often with me.. Im 20 (guy)
how was ur trip ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: seemorehabs on June 25, 2014, 11:24:22 AM
any activities that can or should be done at night? I have only 2 full days and nights for leisure  but may have 2 additional separate nights (at least a few hours each night).

May reserve my shopping/visiting those famous stores for then too if they're open late.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: joelr773 on June 25, 2014, 12:31:34 PM
how was ur trip ?
Early night go to London eye they close 9ish u think then go to the London Bridge very very nice
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: joelr773 on June 25, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
any activities that can or should be done at night? I have only 2 full days and nights for leisure  but may have 2 additional separate nights (at least a few hours each night).

May reserve my shopping/visiting those famous stores for then too if they're open late.
Early night to London eye they close like 9ish and then london bridge very very nice
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 25, 2014, 01:04:37 PM
Early night to London eye they close like 9ish and then london bridge very very nice
You probably mean Tower Bridge. London Bridge is nothing special.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: joelr773 on June 25, 2014, 01:05:06 PM
Yes
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
there are actually reports that its falling down
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: seemorehabs on June 26, 2014, 02:38:17 AM
Any hotel recommendations using Amex rewards points or United points?
Thanks
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ez on June 26, 2014, 02:45:57 AM
Any hotel recommendations using Amex rewards points or United points?
Thanks
You'll be better off cashing them out, and paying for the hotels on your own.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on June 26, 2014, 09:16:12 AM
You probably mean Tower Bridge. London Bridge is nothing special.
tower bridge is really nice place to walk around along the water,
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: seemorehabs on June 29, 2014, 06:09:00 AM
any good sites/ideas for night-time in london?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on June 30, 2014, 12:08:27 PM
any good sites/ideas for night-time in london?
what type of sites are you looking for  ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: seemorehabs on June 30, 2014, 03:36:29 PM
anything worthwhile to see, i know most things are closed (outside of food/beverage), maybe  there a neighborhood or area to check out at night to get a good feel or vibe of the city?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 30, 2014, 03:50:45 PM
There are the usual- shows, comedy clubs, bars etc. Other than that, nothing special I could think of.

If you are interested in interesting bars, try Below Zero Icebar or the one at The Shard.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on July 18, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
what is best points to use from NYC to London ? is it worth to use points for such a trip or rather just book a cash ticket ? for me wife and 1kid and 1 baby under 2 ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: DG on August 03, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
(I read this entire thread and it was quite helpful)

In terms of transportation to/from the airport to a hotel in central london - I understand that economically the best is the tube but it is 75-90 minutes. The express train costs 21 pounds per person each way but only takes 15 minutes and drops you off at paddington station. That means that if your hotel is not walking distance, you would still have to take the tube which can be another 25 minutes and a bit more money. Is it worthwhile to get a mni-cab ( http://www.exclusiveairports.com/) which costs 38 pounds to town and 31 pounds back if travelling with two people? I arrive Sunday at noon and depart Tuesday early AM (7am departure). The question is whether the convenience of being transported with luggage directly to/from hotel is worth the few minutes that one would save by taking the express + tube?
 



Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 03, 2014, 03:49:57 PM
If you were going during times when you would sit in traffic it may have been a consideration. But considering you're travel times, I'd take the taxi
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 03, 2014, 04:28:55 PM
(I read this entire thread and it was quite helpful)

In terms of transportation to/from the airport to a hotel in central london - I understand that economically the best is the tube but it is 75-90 minutes. The express train costs 21 pounds per person each way but only takes 15 minutes and drops you off at paddington station. That means that if your hotel is not walking distance, you would still have to take the tube which can be another 25 minutes and a bit more money. Is it worthwhile to get a mni-cab ( http://www.exclusiveairports.com/) which costs 38 pounds to town and 31 pounds back if travelling with two people? I arrive Sunday at noon and depart Tuesday early AM (7am departure). The question is whether the convenience of being transported with luggage directly to/from hotel is worth the few minutes that one would save by taking the express + tube?
 

On Heathrow Express' site, you can buy a RT for 2 people for 50GBP. Not sure if you're going with someone, but that was a great deal for us. We took a cab for 5GBP from Paddington to our hotel but it was only a 5 minute drive.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: DG on August 03, 2014, 05:01:52 PM
On Heathrow Express' site, you can buy a RT for 2 people for 50GBP. Not sure if you're going with someone, but that was a great deal for us. We took a cab for 5GBP from Paddington to our hotel but it was only a 5 minute drive.

So that would be a total of 60 pounds for two people roundtrip and a mini-cab in both directions would be 68 pounds door to door...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 03, 2014, 05:10:56 PM
So that would be a total of 60 pounds for two people roundtrip and a mini-cab in both directions would be 68 pounds door to door...
Well then you have your math. Time to decide. Remember, GBP-USD conversion...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 03, 2014, 05:44:49 PM
Are you sure that price is not per person? 38 pounds does not seem correct
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 03, 2014, 05:55:01 PM
Are you sure that price is not per person? 38 pounds does not seem correct

That is the price for a car to the Jewish areas. It shouldn't be more to the West End (assuming that's where his hotel is).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ethana on August 03, 2014, 09:28:51 PM
I have a stopover in heathrow for six hours. Is that enough to leave the airport and go to the city?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on August 03, 2014, 09:30:45 PM
I have a stopover in heathrow for six hours. Is that enough to leave the airport and go to the city?
I had a 5 hour stopover and wanted to visit family in Golders Green, I had a door to door ride both ways and I got about half hour to spend with the family.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: DG on August 03, 2014, 09:31:17 PM
Are you sure that price is not per person? 38 pounds does not seem correct

I provided the link where I obtained the quote - 38 pounds from and 31 pounds back...

area is w1

eta: http://www.exclusiveairports.com/   

Uber is also ~37 pounds in each direction.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on August 03, 2014, 09:37:56 PM
I provided the link where I obtained the quote - 38 pounds from and 31 pounds back...

area is w1

eta: http://www.exclusiveairports.com/
If your unfamiliar with the taxi system in London, whatever you do, don't get into one of those "black cabs" even if it's not black.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 04, 2014, 01:14:23 PM
I provided the link where I obtained the quote - 38 pounds from and 31 pounds back...

area is w1

eta: http://www.exclusiveairports.com/   

Uber is also ~37 pounds in each direction.
I'd for sure take a cab
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 09, 2014, 10:41:40 PM
I have a seven hr stop over. Is it possible and able to be done to take the express ton Paddington a taxi to big ben area and then back to Paddington to airport? Or is it cutting it to close.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 09, 2014, 11:39:38 PM
I have a seven hr stop over. Is it possible and able to be done to take the express ton Paddington a taxi to big ben area and then back to Paddington to airport? Or is it cutting it to close.
Doable. Heathrow Express is like 20 min to paddington and a cab from there is prob 10 min to Big Ben but Google Maps the cab ride to check exactly how long it is.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on August 10, 2014, 07:53:04 AM
certainly doable. Figure 45 minutes to an hour for passport control and waiting for the train, and let's say you want to be back 1 hour before your flight. That means you should calculate 1.5 hours each way not including getting to and from Paddington, our of 7 hours that means 4 free in the city.

If you want to do public transport all the way: take the heathrow express to Paddington, then get on the Hammersmith and City line (underground) to Baker St. At baker St. transfer to the Jubillee line to Westminster, and you're at Big Ben. Should take about 15 minutes. Or take a cab as suggested.

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2014, 09:14:44 PM
whats the closets kosher place to the big ben?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 10, 2014, 10:12:43 PM
whats the closets kosher place to the big ben?
Download "Kosher Near Me" and the closest retailer of DD Sandwiches will pop up.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 11, 2014, 12:08:48 AM
Download "Kosher Near Me" and the closest retailer of DD Sandwiches will pop up.
Thanks
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on October 30, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
what are the best mileage options from nyc
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 30, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
what are the best mileage options from nyc
Who said there are??



Just kidding.

It's a tough one.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on November 03, 2014, 02:04:04 AM
what are the best mileage options from nyc

American off peak is just 40K RT in coach.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 03, 2014, 02:04:46 AM
American off peak is just 40K RT in coach.
+ taxes
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 03, 2014, 02:14:46 AM
American off peak is just 40K RT in coach.

US Airways off peak is just 30k RT in coach, if you are a cardholder.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 05:40:08 PM
I'm debating between spending Sun night-Thursday morning or Thursday afternoon-Sunday evening in London (in the summer).

I've been before and seen the main city sites (Buckingham palace, Parliament, Big Ben, London Eye, Tower of London, etc). My wife doesn't really care to see those but would love to see Stonehenge and the Harry Potter sets mentioned in the wiki. She also has a friend she'd like to be with for shabbos. The other time will be spent in Paris.

Any recommendations? Is Stonehenge doable on a Friday when shkia is at 9:15pm?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 05, 2014, 06:00:33 PM
Seems like you can easily do a Stonhenge tour on a Friday (through a tour company they take 6 hours, can even do a sunrise tour if you desire...).

If you only want to do Stonehenge and Harry Potter, seems like both your options are too long
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
Seems like you can easily do a Stonhenge tour on a Friday (through a tour company they take 6 hours, can even do a sunrise tour if you desire...).

If you only want to do Stonehenge and Harry Potter, seems like both your options are too long
Yeah, you just need to see those tour's times, but it could be done. Golden Tours was good. They add in other stops, depending on the option you pick, which makes it a bit longer, but still probably could be done in a day.

Why does he have too much time? Stonehenge on Friday, HP on Sunday.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 05, 2014, 06:10:55 PM
Yeah, you just need to see those tour's times, but it could be done. Golden Tours was good. They add in other stops, depending on the option you pick, which makes it a bit longer, but still probably could be done in a day.

Why does he have too much time? Stonehenge on Friday, HP on Sunday.
HP is a full day?
THU afternoon-sounds like a wasted travel day to me
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Seems like you can easily do a Stonhenge tour on a Friday (through a tour company they take 6 hours, can even do a sunrise tour if you desire...).

If you only want to do Stonehenge and Harry Potter, seems like both your options are too long
Well, my wife wants some time to see the sites in town....

HP is a full day?
THU afternoon-sounds like a wasted travel day to me
...Which is why I thought we could do them Thursday afternoon. Even if we just went to a few of them or did one of those hop on/hop off bus tours (I did one already) she'd be happy.

Doe that make sense?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
Yeah, you just need to see those tour's times, but it could be done. Golden Tours was good. They add in other stops, depending on the option you pick, which makes it a bit longer, but still probably could be done in a day.

Why does he have too much time? Stonehenge on Friday, HP on Sunday.
It seems like both you and Ergel think Paris during the week and London on the weekend is better. I know Dan thinks shabbos in Paris is nice though.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 05, 2014, 07:25:04 PM
Only because 1. You want to spend more time sightseeing in Paris than London 2. Your wife wants to stay by someone for shabbos
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 07:33:25 PM
Only because 1. You want to spend more time sightseeing in Paris than London 2. Your wife wants to stay by someone for shabbos
Valid points. That's also assuming her friend can will be in town, but it's too far out to plan now. I just want to set the flights, hotels, and car (for Spain) now while they're cheap.  Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 07:52:27 PM
HP is a full day?
THU afternoon-sounds like a wasted travel day to me
It's more than half a day. It's quite a far trip whether you use their buses or take public transportation. (I used the bus, my brother did trains a week before I went.) Plus, IIRC, the tour takes 3-4 hours, making the whole shebang a 5-7 hour activity.

Only because 1. You want to spend more time sightseeing in Paris than London 2. Your wife wants to stay by someone for shabbos
Yeah the sightseeing thing makes this an easy choice in my mind (and I didn't know that when we were discussing Paris).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 05, 2014, 08:38:39 PM
It's more than half a day. It's quite a far trip whether you use their buses or take public transportation. (I used the bus, my brother did trains a week before I went.) Plus, IIRC, the tour takes 3-4 hours, making the whole shebang a 5-7 hour activity.
A lot of effort for an adult for a Harry Potter your :P
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 08:41:01 PM
It's more than half a day. It's quite a far trip whether you use their buses or take public transportation. (I used the bus, my brother did trains a week before I went.) Plus, IIRC, the tour takes 3-4 hours, making the whole shebang a 5-7 hour activity.
I saw on their website they have evening tours at 5:00 and 6:30pm for only £50 including transportation on their bus making it 1-cheaper and 2-doable Thursday night.
Yeah the sightseeing thing makes this an easy choice in my mind (and I didn't know that when we were discussing Paris).
[/quote]Sunday we could tour the city when there will be less traffic before heading back to MAD.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2014, 08:41:39 PM
A lot of effort for an adult for a Harry Potter your :P
My wife would probably hate me if we couldn't go.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 05, 2014, 08:53:29 PM
A lot of effort for an adult for a Harry Potter your :P
And it was well worth it!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 07, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
I'm looking at taking a tour of Stonehenge, Windsor Castle and Oxford on a Friday in the summer. They tour says it will be back by 6:30pm. If we spend shabbos in one of the Jewish communities, are there places that take shabbos in regular time (Shkia is 9:15p)?

What is a reasonable amount of time we would need to be able to make it from the bus station back to our hotel, get ready for shabbos, and go to one of the Jewish communities?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2014, 03:11:11 PM
I'm looking at taking a tour of Stonehenge, Windsor Castle and Oxford on a Friday in the summer. They tour says it will be back by 6:30pm. If we spend shabbos in one of the Jewish communities, are there places that take shabbos in regular time (Shkia is 9:15p)?

What is a reasonable amount of time we would need to be able to make it from the bus station back to our hotel, get ready for shabbos, and go to one of the Jewish communities?
Most Chabad shuls take in shabbos at shkia.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 07, 2014, 03:21:10 PM
Most Chabad shuls take in shabbos at shkia.
True, but I was kinda wondering about the non-Chabad shuls. I guess if there's no other option we could do that.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 07, 2014, 03:24:12 PM
True, but I was kinda wondering about the non-Chabad shuls. I guess if there's no other option we could do that.
Most local shuls do early shabbos in the summer due to the late zman, but depending on your area and host, you may be able to find a later minyan.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 07, 2014, 03:40:43 PM
Most local shuls do early shabbos in the summer due to the late zman, but depending on your area and host, you may be able to find a later minyan.
When do most shuls make early shabbos? Is it an arbitrary time, like 7:30/8:00, or does it vary? I'd want to know we'd be able to go on the tour and not miss shabbos.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 07, 2014, 03:48:54 PM
I think you're pushing it. You have to expect the tour to run long just "because" and then it depends where your hotel is but then you need to shower and get dressed and take a tube to Golder's Green/Hendon which supposedly is a 20-30 min ride + walking to the train and from the train to Shul. I think that's cutting it a little close.
Isn't there a tour option to just do Stonehenge?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 07, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
I think you're pushing it. You have to expect the tour to run long just "because" and then it depends where your hotel is but then you need to shower and get dressed and take a tube to Golder's Green/Hendon which supposedly is a 20-30 min ride + walking to the train and from the train to Shul. I think that's cutting it a little close.
Isn't there a tour option to just do Stonehenge?
There is, but what I really want is just Windsor Castle and Stonehenge. I don't care about Oxford that much. There is a tour that's just Stonehenge that gets back at 2:30, but it costs more than the other one which is on sale. Go figure.

Which company did you use?

ETA: Was Windsor Castle worth it?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 08, 2014, 09:17:27 PM
There is, but what I really want is just Windsor Castle and Stonehenge. I don't care about Oxford that much. There is a tour that's just Stonehenge that gets back at 2:30, but it costs more than the other one which is on sale. Go figure.

Which company did you use?

ETA: Was Windsor Castle worth it?
I used Golden, booked through Musement w/ that deal last summer.
Oxford was nice. But the truth is, you only get to go through one area of the place (the rest is not available to the public) and it was very crowded so we didn't spend much time in each room. I don't think you'd miss out much by skipping it. But yeah that's annoying that Stonehenge alone is more expensive.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 08, 2014, 10:04:52 PM
Why not rent a car and go yourself?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 10:05:52 PM
Why not rent a car and go yourself?
Is that cheaper or just quicker than a tour? I'd think renting a car in central London for a few hours would probably be really expensive.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 10:06:35 PM
I used Golden, booked through Musement w/ that deal last summer.
Oxford was nice. But the truth is, you only get to go through one area of the place (the rest is not available to the public) and it was very crowded so we didn't spend much time in each room. I don't think you'd miss out much by skipping it. But yeah that's annoying that Stonehenge alone is more expensive.
I saw the Golden tours too. Maybe if I ask nicely they'll give me the Stonehenge only tour for cheaper.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 08, 2014, 10:10:06 PM
Is that cheaper or just quicker than a tour? I'd think renting a car in central London for a few hours would probably be really expensive.
How much is the tour? How long will you be on London for? Where are you staying?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
How much is the tour? How long will you be on London for? Where are you staying?
The tour is £71.40 on sale (~$116) and includes Stonehenge, Windsor Castle and Oxford. It includes all admission tickets.

We'll be in London from Thursday around noon until Sunday evening.

I've stayed at the Le Meridien Piccadilly before. I was thinking of trying the W London. Have you heard anything about it? For shabbos we hope to be with my wife's friend.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 08, 2014, 10:40:33 PM
I would consider renting a car for your while trip. Pay for one night parking. Save money on public transport into and out of London. And to/from Harry Potter. And can go straight from Potter to airport

How much is admission to Stonehenge/Windsor?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 10:52:17 PM
I would consider renting a car for your while trip. Pay for one night parking. Save money on public transport into and out of London. And to/from Harry Potter. And can go straight from Potter to airport

How much is admission to Stonehenge/Windsor?
Thanks for the suggestions.  Stonehenge is £13.90 and Windsor Castle is £18.50 (~$52 total). The tour is $68.58 for 10 hours. Just Stonehenge is $71.72. For the Harry Potter tour, there's an afternoon tour (that saves £13 off the day tours) on Thursday which we are thinking of doing. It's £50 including transportation and tickets. Just tickets are £33! The tours are way cheaper.

Also, if we did rent a car, wouldn't the one way fee + gas be more expensive than the tours? I have no problem driving on the left (I did it in Australia), it just seems expensive.

I assume you heard nothing about the W London?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 10:56:28 PM
Which is the better flight LON-MAD?:

EasyJet from LGW for $103
BA from LCY for $145
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 08, 2014, 10:59:22 PM
Which is the better flight LON-MAD?:

EasyJet from LGW for $103
BA from LCY for $145
A taxi to LGW will be more than $42 in excess of a subway to LCY
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 11:01:19 PM
A taxi to LGW will be more than $42 in excess of a subway to LCY
That's what I though. Also, the BA fare is carry ons only. Is their carry one policy within Europe the same as their US policy? Their website seems to say so...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 08, 2014, 11:03:04 PM
That's what I though. Also, the BA fare is carry ons only. Is their carry one policy within Europe the same as their US policy? Their website seems to say so...
I may be biased, I'm very excited about LCY, I would like to try out BA1, 2, 3 or 4 one day.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 11:04:01 PM
I may be biased, I'm very excited about LCY, I would like to try out BA1, 2, 3 or 4 one day.
I'd also like to try LCY. It looks a lot more convenient than the other options.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on November 08, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
I may be biased, I'm very excited about LCY, I would like to try out BA1, 2, 3 or 4 one day.
are you referring to ba 001?lcy jfk?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 08, 2014, 11:47:35 PM
are you referring to ba 001?lcy jfk?
Yup, there are 2 flights a day in each direction with the 4 above mentioned flight numbers.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2014, 11:56:31 PM
How would you rate the following hotels in order of nicest to least nice:

W Leicester Square
Le Meridien Piccadilly
The Park Lane Hotel
The Park Tower Knightsbridge

The PTK seems the nicest from TA reviews and reflects the highest price on spg.com. Is that true?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 09, 2014, 12:10:00 AM
Is this just for the weekday and Shabbos you'd technically be by DW's friend in GG? Because if Shabbos ends up in London proper, you'll want to be near the Western Marble Arch Synagogue.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2014, 12:13:44 AM
Is this just for the weekday and Shabbos you'd technically be by DW's friend in GG? Because if Shabbos ends up in London proper, you'll want to be near the Western Marble Arch Synagogue.
I assume it'll just be Thu and Sat nights. I hope that we'll be with DW's friend for shabbos, although I just learned she doesn't live in GG anymore. Still getting more info on that. The Park Tower Knightsbridge is a 20 min walk from the shul through Hyde Park (exactly 1km) which doesn't seem that bad. How was shabbos there? You ate in the hotel? Where did the food come from?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 09, 2014, 12:21:49 AM
I assume it'll just be Thu and Sat nights. I hope that we'll be with DW's friend for shabbos, although I just learned she doesn't live in GG anymore. Still getting more info on that. The Park Tower Knightsbridge is a 20 min walk from the shul through Hyde Park (exactly 1km) which doesn't seem that bad. How was shabbos there? You ate in the hotel? Where did the food come from?
Stayed at Marriott Marble Arch. We really liked the hotel. Fancy doorman, nice room, manual lobby and room doors/keys. The area is very Muslim, which may be a turn off, but that's only on the main street. The hotel is just off the main street and the Shul is even further off the main street in the direction of residential apartments. Felt safe walking to Shul every time. It was a 5 minute walk.

We bought food from Reuben's. It was crazy expensive so we didn't buy too much. Shnitzels were huge so 2 pieces lasted us for both meals. Grape juice that you buy from them is one of the little Mishloach Manos bottles, so you'll need a few. We found that out too late and just rationed it out (not sure if that was the correct decision Halachically). Anyway, if you can get to GG before Shabbos, you should be able to get cheaper takeout. The Shul/Chabad also does meals sometimes. Chabad had dinner the week we were there, but Gmaps said it was like a 25 minute walk, and they weren't so cheap, so we opted out.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2014, 12:23:21 AM
Stayed at Marriott Marble Arch. We really liked the hotel. Fancy doorman, nice room, manual lobby and room doors/keys. The area is very Muslim, which may be a turn off, but that's only on the main street. The hotel is just off the main street and the Shul is even further off the main street in the direction of residential apartments. Felt safe walking to Shul every time. It was a 5 minute walk.

We bought food from Reuben's. It was crazy expensive so we didn't buy too much. Shnitzels were huge so 2 pieces lasted us for both meals. Grape juice that you buy from them is one of the little Mishloach Manos bottles, so you'll need a few. We found that out too late and just rationed it out (not sure if that was the correct decision Halachically). Anyway, if you can get to GG before Shabbos, you should be able to get cheaper takeout. The Shul/Chabad also does meals sometimes. Chabad had dinner the week we were there, but Gmaps said it was like a 25 minute walk, and they weren't so cheap, so we opted out.
Cool. Thanks. That's an expensive Marriott!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 09, 2014, 12:24:25 AM
We stayed at the Hyatt Regency Churchill. Ordered from justkosher.co.uk who delivered directly to the hotel
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2014, 12:25:04 AM
We stayed at the Hyatt Regency Churchill. Ordered from justkosher.co.uk who delivered directly to the hotel
How was the food, food price, hotel?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 09, 2014, 12:26:52 AM
Cool. Thanks. That's an expensive Marriott!
Yessir. Had to deal with the points I had. Remember, I wasn't in this for good deals on the hotels - just wanted to pay with points for every night. :) 2 Marriott CCs and some UR got us 4 nights there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2014, 12:28:25 AM
Yessir. Had to deal with the points I had. Remember, I wasn't in this for good deals on the hotels - just wanted to pay with points for every night. :) 2 Marriott CCs and some UR got us 4 nights there.
Wow. That's a bunch of points. I think I might just stay at the Park Tower Knightsbridge or somewhere cheaper if we're in town for shabbos.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 09, 2014, 12:29:48 AM
Food I remember being pretty good. We ordered a ton of food and came out to 80 pounds plus 10 for delivery, which was very reasonable considering the variety we ordered. If you PM your email address I can send you my order.
Hotel was OK (especially since we were coming from PH Paris and PH Zurich).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on November 12, 2014, 05:29:51 PM
Going to be in London with my 8 year old son from 12/31-1/4 (thursday - sunday). We are staying in the west end. We are going to do the Harry Potter Studio tour. Any other suggestions for places to see? Any suggestions for food for shabbos? Is there anywhere to go on shabbos that is walking distance (we are staying in Covent Gardens area). The hotel is about a mile from the Marble Arch shul. Is that a safe walk shabbos morning?

Also - what is the best way to get from Heathrow to the west end given that we don't have a lot of time? Heathrow express?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 12, 2014, 06:59:16 PM
Going to be in London with my 8 year old son from 12/31-1/4 (thursday - sunday). We are staying in the west end. We are going to do the Harry Potter Studio tour. Any other suggestions for places to see? Any suggestions for food for shabbos? Is there anywhere to go on shabbos that is walking distance (we are staying in Covent Gardens area). The hotel is about a mile from the Marble Arch shul. Is that a safe walk shabbos morning?

Also - what is the best way to get from Heathrow to the west end given that we don't have a lot of time? Heathrow express?

Thanks in advance!
Check out the list of activities in the wiki.
Check out justkosher.co.uk or else go to Reuben's (expensive).
Chabad sometimes has a meal on Shabbos. Email them if they will have the week you're going and to see where their address is/how far it is from your hotel.
I don't know about the walk, but during the day, I can't imagine you'd have a problem.
Heathrow Express seems to be the fastest way from the airport. Buy the 2 RT ticket package online and you'll save a bundle.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 07:01:54 PM
Heathrow Express seems to be the fastest way from the airport. Buy the 2 RT ticket package online and you'll save a bundle.
Or you can just fly out of LCY.  ;D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 12, 2014, 07:03:41 PM
Or you can just fly out of LCY.  ;D
You're making me jealous...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 07:13:50 PM
You're making me jealous...
I'm so excited, although I just realized I didn't book the ticket with my BA card so I didn't save 10%.  >:(
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 12, 2014, 07:15:27 PM
I'm so excited, although I just realized I didn't book the ticket with my BA card so I didn't save 10%.  >:(
LCY-MAD?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 07:30:33 PM
LCY-MAD?
Yup, you're following!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 12, 2014, 07:38:09 PM
I'm so excited, although I just realized I didn't book the ticket with my BA card so I didn't save 10%.  >:(
What am I missing? Has there been an update to your trip?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 12, 2014, 07:39:40 PM
I'm so excited, although I just realized I didn't book the ticket with my BA card so I didn't save 10%.  >:(
Your excitement sounds like you'll be flying at least JFK-LCY
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 07:56:42 PM
What am I missing? Has there been an update to your trip?
Nope. LCY-MAD is just  a positioning flight for our return trip. Avios weren't available for late flights, so I paid cash.
Your excitement sounds like you'll be flying at least JFK-LCY
True, but flying out of LCY even just to MAD is exciting.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on November 12, 2014, 09:28:23 PM
You won't get the discount when booking a ticket from lcy mad.
The 10% discount only works when originating in the state's
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2014, 09:29:31 PM
You won't get the discount when booking a ticket from lcy mad.
The 10% discount only works when originating in the state's
Oh, thanks for pointing that out. Now I don't feel bad anymore! 8)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on November 16, 2014, 06:12:31 PM
What's the latest shachris minyan available in either Golders Green or Stamford Hill? What time would I have to land at LHR to make that Minyan? What is the best method of transportation to catch the Minyan?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2014, 06:16:45 PM
What's the latest shachris minyan available in either Golders Green or Stamford Hill? What time would I have to land at LHR to make that Minyan? What is the best method of transportation to catch the Minyan?
Hagers in GG has a netz minyan every day (I'm sure there's a shul in SH that does too) but if you're planning for the winter, anyone who works for a living Davens before netz.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on November 16, 2014, 06:20:37 PM
Hagers in GG has a netz minyan every day (I'm sure there's a shul in SH that does too) but if you're planning for the winter, anyone who works for a living Davens before netz.
I'm looking for the latest Minyan.  One that I can catch assuming I land at 8:00 and hustle in to either GG or SH.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
I'm looking for the latest Minyan.  One that I can catch assuming I land at 8:00 and hustle in to either GG or SH.
I'm sorry. My eyes seem to be falling me to often nowadays.

The latest would be Reb Chuna's in GG or Pinter's in SH
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on November 16, 2014, 06:23:58 PM
I'm sorry. My eyes seem to be falling me to often nowadays.

The latest would be Reb Chuna's in GG or Pinter's in SH
Until what time can I safely rely on catching a minyan?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2014, 06:34:46 PM
Until what time can I safely rely on catching a minyan?
I'd think at least 11. If you take a taxi you should be fine.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on November 16, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
I'd think at least 11. If you take a taxi you should be fine.
There is a minyan beginning at 11:00 in both Golders Green and Stamford Hill every day?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2014, 06:36:42 PM
There is a minyan beginning at 11:00 in both Golders Green and Stamford Hill every day?
The 2 above mentioned shuls have minyanim all morning.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on November 16, 2014, 11:24:52 PM
The 2 above mentioned shuls have minyanim all morning.

If I arrive to Heathrow at 7:35 on an American Airlines fight into Terminal 3, can I safely make a Mnyan in Golders Green assuming I am checking luggage, and have a driver waiting for me.

I am not asking if I may make it... the whole trip depends on me being certain without any doubt that I can make a Minyan. 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2014, 11:36:48 PM
If I arrive to Heathrow at 7:35 on an American Airlines fight into Terminal 3, can I safely make a Mnyan in Golders Green assuming I am checking luggage, and have a driver waiting for me.

I am not asking if I may make it... the whole trip depends on me being certain without any doubt that I can make a Minyan.
There are never any guarantees, I would do it.

Assuming you land on time. You should be out by 8:35. If there wouldn't be traffic you can even make the minyan in a non chassidish shul at 9:30. If there are any glitches you have about an hour and a half of leeway.

IINM. Why doesn't anyone else chip in?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on November 16, 2014, 11:50:53 PM

If I arrive to Heathrow at 7:35 on an American Airlines fight into Terminal 3, can I safely make a Mnyan in Golders Green assuming I am checking luggage, and have a driver waiting for me.

I am not asking if I may make it... the whole trip depends on me being certain without any doubt that I can make a Minyan.
you should be perfectly fine, reb chunas in GG is only 35 min from LHR
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 16, 2014, 11:52:51 PM
you should be perfectly fine, reb chunas in GG is only 35 min from LHR
Not in the morning rush hour, but it shouldn't take much more than an hour.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: PTU on November 19, 2014, 10:27:35 PM
A frum girl staying @the Dorchester Hotel for shabbos in a couple of weeks.

 Is there a Shul and or community in the area where she can go for a meal's?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 19, 2014, 11:43:29 PM
15 minute walk from the marble Arch synagogue. Not much of a community to speak of though
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 20, 2014, 08:53:30 AM
A frum girl staying @the Dorchester Hotel for shabbos in a couple of weeks.

 Is there a Shul and or community in the area where she can go for a meal's?
Chabad is in the general area and they usually have 1 meal on Shabbos.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on November 20, 2014, 09:01:02 AM
Chabad is in the general area and they usually have 1 meal on Shabbos.
By day ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 20, 2014, 09:03:42 AM
By day ?
I think it's different every week. Not sure though. Sometimes the meal is in the Marble Arch Shul and sometimes it's in the Chabad House. It's also not so cheap.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 20, 2014, 09:25:21 AM
A frum girl staying @the Dorchester Hotel for shabbos in a couple of weeks.

 Is there a Shul and or community in the area where she can go for a meal's?
Here's a trip report I'm subscribing to...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 24, 2014, 10:57:02 PM
Any suggestions on what to do with our bags in London on a Sunday? We'll have spent shabbos with friends so we won't have a hotel motzei shabbos/Sunday morning we could leave them at.

I did find a service that will store bags for you (http://www.left-baggage.co.uk/), but at £10/bag for over 3 hours it's a bit pricy. We plan on each carrying a carry on suitcase and a backpack so that would be £40. Any cheaper ideas?

We're leaving out of LCY.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 25, 2014, 06:21:09 AM
Any suggestions on what to do with our bags in London on a Sunday? We'll have spent shabbos with friends so we won't have a hotel motzei shabbos/Sunday morning we could leave them at.

I did find a service that will store bags for you (http://www.left-baggage.co.uk/), but at £10/bag for over 3 hours it's a bit pricy. We plan on each carrying a carry on suitcase and a backpack so that would be £40. Any cheaper ideas?

We're leaving out of LCY.
Glad the friend thing worked out!
Are you staying by your friends on Motzai Shabbos and you just need a place for your bags Sunday morning while doing things? - that wasn't too clear.
There's got to be lockers at one of the larger train stations - maybe Paddington? I would do some research into the different stations.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bznt on November 25, 2014, 07:07:49 AM
Is there a thread about London getting there ?
I know about by the 2 threads  help find a paid or points ticket. But about London with the high taxes. Is there a thread or a post like there is about TLV?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2014, 11:03:32 AM
Glad the friend thing worked out!
Are you staying by your friends on Motzai Shabbos and you just need a place for your bags Sunday morning while doing things? - that wasn't too clear.
There's got to be lockers at one of the larger train stations - maybe Paddington? I would do some research into the different stations.
Yeah, I'm also glad things worked out (at least tentatively, but they have a large house so it shouldn't be an issue).

Yes, we plan on staying with them on Motzei Shabbos as well. My thinking was that since shabbos will end very late, it would be easier (and cheaper :)) to just spend the night with them and go into the city on Sunday.

The problem as that the Left-Backage.co.uk company seems to have the monopoly on storing luggage at train stations. From what I've read on TA, there are no lockers anymore due to security risks. This company is at all the major station.

I was really kind of wondering about storing it at a local hotel, maybe one at which I have status. I recall reading somewhere that some hotels might do that. Has anyone ever tried that?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 25, 2014, 01:26:38 PM
Yeah, I'm also glad things worked out (at least tentatively, but they have a large house so it shouldn't be an issue).

Yes, we plan on staying with them on Motzei Shabbos as well. My thinking was that since shabbos will end very late, it would be easier (and cheaper :)) to just spend the night with them and go into the city on Sunday.

The problem as that the Left-Backage.co.uk company seems to have the monopoly on storing luggage at train stations. From what I've read on TA, there are no lockers anymore due to security risks. This company is at all the major station.

I was really kind of wondering about storing it at a local hotel, maybe one at which I have status. I recall reading somewhere that some hotels might do that. Has anyone ever tried that?
Nice! Glad it worked out.

I feel like you might get a better response to your last question in another thread. People who may know the answer to that might not be looking here.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2014, 01:46:31 PM
Nice! Glad it worked out.

I feel like you might get a better response to your last question in another thread. People who may know the answer to that might not be looking here.
Thanks for the idea. I posted here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21642.msg978056#msg978056), as I couldn't really find a better thread.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 25, 2014, 01:59:27 PM
Why don't you just leave them with your friends for the day?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 25, 2014, 02:04:52 PM
Why don't you just leave them with your friends for the day?
I thought of that, but it would require we go back to their house to pick them up which is in the opposite direction of LCY.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
I got an email from Musement that they're having a 50% off sale on Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

I though it'd be a good opportunity to either book tours or buy a gift card to Musement.

There are many tours I though of taking, but you can't beat the Stonehenge Half day tour  (http://www.musement.com/en/london/stonehenge-half-day-tour_tour)for $35/person!

Any other really worth while tours  (http://www.musement.com/en/london)in London?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 26, 2014, 01:03:18 PM
That's awesome!! Better than our 5 euro off deal last summer.

Tower of London - see the crown jewels
Jack the Ripper tour sounded cool but we didn't have time at nights (it's only at night) - looks like you can buy that and the dungeons under 1 ticket. With the sale, it might be cheaper than just going to the dungeons on your own.
If you have time, I would've have liked to see other palaces like Kensington.
British Museum is supposed to be good (we didn't go though) and houses the Rosetta Stone.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2014, 01:30:40 PM
That's awesome!! Better than our 5 euro off deal last summer.

Tower of London - see the crown jewels
Jack the Ripper tour sounded cool but we didn't have time at nights (it's only at night) - looks like you can buy that and the dungeons under 1 ticket. With the sale, it might be cheaper than just going to the dungeons on your own.
If you have time, I would've have liked to see other palaces like Kensington.
British Museum is supposed to be good (we didn't go though) and houses the Rosetta Stone.
I know. I really hope I can buy gift cards because they don't seem to have those dates available for bookings yet.

In terms of the other tours, I'll have to look at our timing. I've already seen the crown jewels (tower of London) though.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on November 26, 2014, 01:44:07 PM
I've been told by native Londoners that the Imperial War Museum is incredible, but it was still closed for renovations when I was there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2014, 01:48:30 PM
I've been told by native Londoners that the Imperial War Museum is incredible, but it was still closed for renovations when I was there.
When were you there? It looks like they reopened in July per this TA (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g186338-d187674-Reviews-Imperial_War_Museum-London_England.html#REVIEWS) thread. Also, it looks free, so no Musement needed ! :D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on November 26, 2014, 01:52:01 PM
When were you there? It looks like they reopened in July per this TA (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g186338-d187674-Reviews-Imperial_War_Museum-London_England.html#REVIEWS) thread. Also, it looks free, so no Musement needed ! :D
Free is even better! :) I was there April 2013 - a while ago. I didn't bother doing any research beforehand, so I actually went to the museum and was super disappointed to see it closed.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
Free is even better! :) I was there April 2013 - a while ago. I didn't bother doing any research beforehand, so I actually went to the museum and was super disappointed to see it closed.
Cool. That may be a good Sunday activity, especially if the weather is bad.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
I have about 13 hours (7am-8pm) in London this week.

I've perused the Wiki, and have decided that I'll have the Qantas chauffeur bring me to breakfast at SoYo in Golders Green, and then I'll take train over to Buckingham Palace for the changing of the guard.

What else would you recommend I see from like 12-4ish? And perhaps where to eat an early dinner?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2014, 10:58:15 PM
Anyone hear anything about a new restaurant called Zest in the JCC?

Good? Bad?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 06, 2014, 11:15:28 PM
I'd do the tower of London
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 06, 2014, 11:18:23 PM


I have about 13 hours (7am-8pm) in London this week.

I've perused the Wiki, and have decided that I'll have the Qantas chauffeur bring me to breakfast at SoYo in Golders Green, and then I'll take train over to Buckingham Palace for the changing of the guard.

What else would you recommend I see from like 12-4ish? And perhaps where to eat an early dinner?


Anyone hear anything about a new restaurant called Zest in the JCC?

Good? Bad?
Just to make note, during the winter, the changing of the guards is only every other day and it gets canceled due to the weather so you can't even figure out which day it will be. In short it's a gamble.

I'm unaware of a JCC in London.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on December 06, 2014, 11:22:06 PM

Just to make note, during the winter, the changing of the guards is only every other day and it gets canceled due to the weather so you can't even figure out which day it will be. In short it's a gamble.
+1. When I was there they cancelled even with nice weather.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 06, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
I'd do the tower of London
+1, I did that on a stop and it was great.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 06, 2014, 11:48:54 PM
+1. When I was there they cancelled even with nice weather.
Yup. They miss every other day (there are less tourists in the winter) as well as any other day with bad weather.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on December 06, 2014, 11:53:12 PM
+1, I did that on a stop and it was great.

agreed. good place for 1 time
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on December 07, 2014, 12:01:39 AM
Is the London eye worth the time & money ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2014, 12:02:13 AM
Is the London eye worth the time & money ?
No on both accounts. I did it and regretted wasting the time and money.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on December 07, 2014, 12:03:15 AM
No on both accounts. I did it and regretted wasting the time and money.
Do you actually see anything or is it too cloudy/foggy ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2014, 12:08:32 AM
Do you actually see anything or is it too cloudy/foggy ?
Oh, the views are great. It was a super clear day when I was there, but it takes 30 minutes just for it to make one revaluation and you don't need that long. Maybe if it was a lot cheaper it would be worth it. Also there were no crowds when I was there. It was February.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 07, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
I've already confirmed they'll do the changing of the guard on the day I'm there (it's on odd days now FWIW), and the weather is supposed to be beautiful.

I guess I'll do breakfast in GG at SoYo, changing of guard at Buckingham Palace, lunch at Zest in JCC (http://www.zestatjw3.co.uk/), and then London Eye, and then back to the Cabanas in LHR.

Anyone know if BA F offers kosher meals in lounge?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 07, 2014, 11:33:56 AM
I've already confirmed they'll do the changing of the guard on the day I'm there (it's on odd days now FWIW), and the weather is supposed to be beautiful.

I guess I'll do breakfast in GG at SoYo, changing of guard at Buckingham Palace, lunch at Zest in JCC (http://www.zestatjw3.co.uk/), and then London Eye, and then back to the Cabanas in LHR.

Anyone know if BA F offers kosher meals in lounge?
Be sure to show up early. I got there a 1/2 hour early (appx) and I couldn't get a spot with a view of anything. Nice find with Zest - no one mentioned that place when I was there in the summer. Was told the only Kosher place in town is Reuben's. All reviews here say London Eye wasn't worth it. Perhaps consider doing the London Dungeons?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on December 07, 2014, 11:37:55 AM
Be sure to show up early. I got there a 1/2 hour early (appx) and I couldn't get a spot with a view of anything.
+1. & they had the nerve to cancel after confirming it for that day & making the hundreds of tourists wait over an hour. The Eye is probably a good time to be online/check emails.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 07, 2014, 11:47:45 AM
Be sure to show up early. I got there a 1/2 hour early (appx) and I couldn't get a spot with a view of anything. Nice find with Zest - no one mentioned that place when I was there in the summer. Was told the only Kosher place in town is Reuben's. All reviews here say London Eye wasn't worth it. Perhaps consider doing the London Dungeons?

Doh, I didn't mean London Eye... I meant tower of London.

Thanks for the heads up, but I hope to be there about an hour early.

How was Reuben's?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 07, 2014, 11:50:04 AM
I've already confirmed they'll do the changing of the guard on the day I'm there (it's on odd days now FWIW), and the weather is supposed to be beautiful.

I guess I'll do breakfast in GG at SoYo, changing of guard at Buckingham Palace, lunch at Zest in JCC (http://www.zestatjw3.co.uk/), and then London Eye, and then back to the Cabanas in LHR.

Anyone know if BA F offers kosher meals in lounge?
If it ends up raining on one of the odd days they can change it to the even days IINM
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 07, 2014, 12:01:41 PM
If it ends up raining on one of the odd days they can change it to the even days IINM

Hope not to have to worry about that:

(http://i.gyazo.com/9863bb31c9453738d49a39d242c7f702.png)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 07, 2014, 12:02:43 PM
Hope not to have to worry about that:

(http://i.gyazo.com/9863bb31c9453738d49a39d242c7f702.png)
I guess you're all set. Good luck!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 07, 2014, 12:11:43 PM
Doh, I didn't mean London Eye... I meant tower of London.

Thanks for the heads up, but I hope to be there about an hour early.

How was Reuben's?
Ah, okay. Tower of London was fun and not just the Crown Jewels. Good choice.

Good luck. I have no idea how early is early enough, just that 1/2 hour is not. :)

So, I got their "famous" beef sandwich (forgot the name they have for it) and it was good. Not the best sandwich in the world, but good. However, their prices were ridiculous. I don't remember the cost of the sandwich but we also got Shabbos food from them and for 2-3 Challah rolls, a bottle of grape juice that turned out to be the Shalach Manos-sized bottle, and 2 shnitzels, and 1 or 2 sides (I forgot exactly) we paid over 60GBP = ~$100 at the rate then.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2014, 12:15:48 PM
Anyone know if BA F offers kosher meals in lounge?
They do: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=47400.0

How was Reuben's?
Overpriced deli food.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 07, 2014, 12:22:37 PM
So, I got their "famous" beef sandwich (forgot the name they have for it) and it was good. Not the best sandwich in the world, but good. However, their prices were ridiculous. I don't remember the cost of the sandwich but we also got Shabbos food from them and for 2-3 Challah rolls, a bottle of grape juice that turned out to be the Shalach Manos-sized bottle, and 2 shnitzels, and 1 or 2 sides (I forgot exactly) we paid over 60GBP = ~$100 at the rate then.
Overpriced indeed, although when I once went with a friend of mine on Mivtzoim (he went to that neighborhood every Friday) they always offered him a free drink and a soup.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 07, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
They do: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=47400.0

Thanks. Need I order in advance?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
Thanks. Need I order in advance?
No, but you do need to schedule a massage/facial well in advance.
+441614483013
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 01:12:01 PM
Doh, I didn't mean London Eye... I meant tower of London.

Thanks for the heads up, but I hope to be there about an hour early.

How was Reuben's?
BTW there is a changing of the guard tour that my wife and I did in London and it was really a fun way to see it. It's led by a very energetic and interesting fellow named Matt and he basically takes on a walking tour starting from where the guards get ready then you march alongside them to where they switch, etc.... You get to see alot more than standing in front squished with loads of people. And it was pretty cheap (for London standards at least). Here is a link to his website:
http://www.funlondontours.com/london-walking-tours/changing-the-guard

As far as Reubens-true it was really expensive but it was right in line with everything else in London-I got the pastrami burger and it was really delicious.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on December 07, 2014, 01:18:12 PM
BTW there is a changing of the guard tour that my wife and I did in London and it was really a fun way to see it. It's led by a very energetic and interesting fellow named Matt and he basically takes on a walking tour starting from where the guards get ready then you march alongside them to where they switch, etc.... You get to see alot more than standing in front squished with loads of people. And it was pretty cheap (for London standards at least). Here is a link to his website:
http://www.funlondontours.com/london-walking-tours/changing-the-guard

As far as Reubens-true it was really expensive but it was right in line with everything else in London-I got the pastrami burger and it was really delicious.
What does a pastrami burger cost ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 01:22:24 PM
What does a pastrami burger cost ?
Dont remember exactly but it was around 12-13 pounds (about $18-$20)!!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2014, 01:29:23 PM
Dont remember exactly but it was around 12-13 pounds (about $18-$20)!!
Things are more expensive than that. At least they were in 2003...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
Things are more expensive than that. At least they were in 2003...
I remember the meal for me and my wife total coming to about 70 pounds!!!! (for deli takeout!)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 07, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
BTW there is a changing of the guard tour that my wife and I did in London and it was really a fun way to see it. It's led by a very energetic and interesting fellow named Matt and he basically takes on a walking tour starting from where the guards get ready then you march alongside them to where they switch, etc.... You get to see alot more than standing in front squished with loads of people. And it was pretty cheap (for London standards at least). Here is a link to his website:
http://www.funlondontours.com/london-walking-tours/changing-the-guard

As far as Reubens-true it was really expensive but it was right in line with everything else in London-I got the pastrami burger and it was really delicious.
That sounds really interesting. Too bad I didn't know of that then.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 01:54:11 PM
That sounds really interesting. Too bad I didn't know of that then.
I only found it because the more research I did abt the changing of the guard the more I heard everyone complain about coming early, squishing with thousands of people and barely getting to see anything-with this guy, not only did he give us a short walking/history tour first but then he started where the guards line up to march to the palace, then you "march" literally alongside them until they get near the palace, then you run over to where the mounted guards come out from, and then you end up at a great view point to watch the whole changing ceremony/inspection in the courtyard. The last thing is, he takes you quickly after that to the changing of the sentries at St James Palace (those 2 guards that everyone takes pics with) which almost noone gets to see...really a great experience and it makes something that everyone says is so boring really enjoyable!!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2014, 01:58:11 PM
Sounds neat, add it to the Wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 07, 2014, 01:59:46 PM
I only found it because the more research I did abt the changing of the guard the more I heard everyone complain about coming early, squishing with thousands of people and barely getting to see anything-with this guy, not only did he give us a short walking/history tour first but then he started where the guards line up to march to the palace, then you "march" literally alongside them until they get near the palace, then you run over to where the mounted guards come out from, and then you end up at a great view point to watch the whole changing ceremony/inspection in the courtyard. The last thing is, he takes you quickly after that to the changing of the sentries at St James Palace (those 2 guards that everyone takes pics with) which almost noone gets to see...really a great experience and it makes something that everyone says is so boring really enjoyable!!
Didn't know the name of St James Palace - but we did get to see that (by accident)! I don't get how this guy gets you a good view point for the ceremony? It seems like you show up to the ceremony exactly as it starts - does he have a section reserved?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2014, 02:06:25 PM
Sounds like a nice tour, but £15/person seems a bit steep, no?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 02:06:41 PM
Didn't know the name of St James Palace - but we did get to see that (by accident)! I don't get how this guy gets you a good view point for the ceremony? It seems like you show up to the ceremony exactly as it starts - does he have a section reserved?
no reserved section-he has been doing this for 10 or 15 years and he knows exactly where the least ppl stand at the right times-you are not right in front of the gates -you are a bit further back but up on a hill so you have a great view-will post pics of the tour later so you can see what I mean
Sounds neat, add it to the Wiki.
I dont know how to do that yet- here is the link if you or anyone else who does know wants to add it
London changing of the Guard tour with Matt-http://www.funlondontours.com/changing-the-guard-london-walking-tour

Thanks!! (one day Ill learn how to edit a wiki :P)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
Sounds like a nice tour, but £15/person seems a bit steep, no?
When I did it 2 years ago it was only 10 pounds but it must have gained popularity since then, hence the rise in price-IMHO it was money well spent (a really enjoyable/entertaining 2 1/2 hours)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on December 07, 2014, 02:25:40 PM
I took him in the summer he was really good.
I tried booking for 2 online but there was availability only for 1 and I didn't have another day to go,so I called him up and he let me come along with wife.
BTW 15 pounds is not all,I saw everyone tipping him in the end.(they were giving notes, in UK the smallest note is 5 pound).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
I took him in the summer he was really good.
I tried booking for 2 online but there was availability only for 1 and I didn't have another day to go,so I called him up and he let me come along with wife.
BTW 15 pounds is not all,I saw everyone tipping him in the end.(they were giving notes, in UK the smallest note is 5 pound).
So your saying it was worth it even for £20/person?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 07, 2014, 02:42:36 PM
no reserved section-he has been doing this for 10 or 15 years and he knows exactly where the least ppl stand at the right times-you are not right in front of the gates -you are a bit further back but up on a hill so you have a great view-will post pics of the tour later so you can see what I meanI dont know how to do that yet- here is the link if you or anyone else who does know wants to add it
London changing of the Guard tour with Matt-http://www.funlondontours.com/changing-the-guard-london-walking-tour

Thanks!! (one day Ill learn how to edit a wiki :P)
Cool. Added to wiki. In the future, you just click [Edit] next to the words "Topic Wiki".
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 02:43:34 PM
So your saying it was worth it even for £20/person?
Absolutley! (IMO of course :D) I was so impressed and really enjoyed that I also dropped him a generous tip at the end....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2014, 02:44:55 PM
Absolutley! (IMO of course :D) I was so impressed and really enjoyed that I also dropped him a generous tip at the end....
Ok, I'll have to think about it. Still seems kinda expensive to me.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: The Guy on December 07, 2014, 02:55:29 PM
So your saying it was worth it even for £20/person?

If you go with a family you could get away cheap and give a fiver for everyone.
I have heard from many that they don't know where to stand and they don't get to see anything,with him I knew where to stand and when to move on,I got to see a lot.

Maybe if someone will be kind and take a map and show exactly where to go ,what time and write up a few lines to know what's gong on could save everyone a lot of money,it's not that difficult.
It could be all shown on the map,first he goes to the old palace,no one knows about that so it was EMPTY we stood the first row and saw a lot.

I don't know how to do these things.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 03:29:45 PM
As promised :D: (i still owe DDF a detailed tr on this trip (2 summers ago) -it included Rhodes (GR), Budapest, London, Amsterdam (inc. overnight cruise from London to Amsterdam aboard the Stella Line), and Prague!!

Matt:the tour guide
(http://i58.tinypic.com/15ejxuu.jpg)

First you have a small walking/history tour of the Buckingham area,

Then you start the Changing of the Guard tour here (right across the street from this):
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2ugezio.jpg)

Then you line up at the curb and wait for them to come near you:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2m26jr5.jpg)

Then you march alongside them (literally) all the way down the palace esplanade:
(http://i62.tinypic.com/5zn68.jpg)

After that, you wait outside some other location (I dont rem. all the names) and watch the other set of guards come marching out towards the palace (he explains in great detail what each group represents and what type of soldiers they are and how to identify them, etc.-basically tons of info you would never get w/o something like this (or reading up online before :P)):
(http://i59.tinypic.com/w2ohmw.jpg)

Then you watch them come marching out:
(http://i57.tinypic.com/2uthxk9.jpg)

and right by you once again:
(http://i61.tinypic.com/123o35z.jpg)

Then you run over to the spot where you watch the ceremony in the courtyard take place: (Of course you are not standing right in front of the courtyard but he says that whatever goes on in the courtyard is just an inspection and is rather boring-the main part is what happens all along outside the gates):
(http://i60.tinypic.com/nz1s1y.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2hriq8j.jpg)

Finally, you walk back to St James palace (through some small back allies) to watch the changing of the sentries:
(and take the obligatory picture w/ them and try to make them laugh of course ;D)
(http://i57.tinypic.com/29p43nb.jpg)
(http://i59.tinypic.com/azbhb8.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/286qv4y.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/123p1xf.jpg)
All in all amazing experience-I really hope to get around to a full tr one day (I gave my asia trip precedence even though this was the summer before....)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 07, 2014, 03:56:32 PM
Nice pics! So, the small changing of the guards I saw was literally a 1 minute walk from Buckingham and it didn't look like the pics you have of St James, so it must be yet another changing. Anyway, your pics show that you clearly got an awesome experience out of the whole thing. Sure seems worth the money if someone doesn't plan to be there super early.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 07, 2014, 04:01:19 PM
Nice pics! So, the small changing of the guards I saw was literally a 1 minute walk from Buckingham and it didn't look like the pics you have of St James, so it must be yet another changing. Anyway, your pics show that you clearly got an awesome experience out of the whole thing. Sure seems worth the money if someone doesn't plan to be there super early.
Thanks! I still think it's worth it even of you do plan on getting there super early as you get wayyy more out of it.....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 07, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
No, but you do need to schedule a massage/facial well in advance.
+441614483013

Thanks. That I did weeks ago :)


BTW there is a changing of the guard tour that my wife and I did in London and it was really a fun way to see it. It's led by a very energetic and interesting fellow named Matt and he basically takes on a walking tour starting from where the guards get ready then you march alongside them to where they switch, etc.... You get to see alot more than standing in front squished with loads of people. And it was pretty cheap (for London standards at least). Here is a link to his website:
http://www.funlondontours.com/london-walking-tours/changing-the-guard

As far as Reubens-true it was really expensive but it was right in line with everything else in London-I got the pastrami burger and it was really delicious.

Awesome. I'll take a gander.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 07, 2014, 07:27:17 PM
10% off the Changing of the Guard tour with code "COFG10PC."
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2014, 07:29:48 PM
10% off the Changing of the Guard tour with code "COFG10PC."
Nice. £1.50 off is better than noting.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on December 08, 2014, 12:01:11 AM
Good stuff. I never knew about that.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on December 08, 2014, 10:55:40 AM
I've already confirmed they'll do the changing of the guard on the day I'm there (it's on odd days now FWIW), and the weather is supposed to be beautiful.

I guess I'll do breakfast in GG at SoYo, changing of guard at Buckingham Palace, lunch at Zest in JCC (http://www.zestatjw3.co.uk/), and then London Eye, and then back to the Cabanas in LHR.

Anyone know if BA F offers kosher meals in lounge?
I've never tried SoYo, but I'd strongly recommend Isolabella, IME its one of the best milchig restaurants out there.
London Eye is a waste of time & money, if you like attractions that are somewhat scary this (https://www.thelondonbridgeexperience.com) was amazing, I loved it
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 08, 2014, 01:38:39 PM
I've never tried SoYo, but I'd strongly recommend Isolabella, IME its one of the best milchig restaurants out there.
London Eye is a waste of time & money, if you like attractions that are somewhat scary this (https://www.thelondonbridgeexperience.com) was amazing, I loved it
I remember Isolabella being super overpriced for the quality of the meal even with the lunch special prices it came to abt 100 pounds (and we were just a couple and did not order one of each thing)!!! Pizzaza is awesome if you are looking for good pizza and really diff. types of fries, though....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 08, 2014, 04:24:10 PM
I remember Isolabella being super overpriced for the quality of the meal even with the lunch special prices it came to abt 100 pounds (and we were just a couple and did not order one of each thing)!!! Pizzaza is awesome if you are looking for good pizza and really diff. types of fries, though....

That's ridiculous. I paid ~£120 for dinner for four adults and two kids the other night. Pizaza is great, but not for breakfast.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on December 08, 2014, 04:55:42 PM
here is a clip what I took from changing of the guard when I was in London in NOV 2014 . it's different than the regular because they head some guest over there . I took it with my S5 not the best .

http://youtu.be/e368WFsux6I
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 08, 2014, 05:14:16 PM
That's ridiculous. I paid ~£120 for dinner for four adults and two kids the other night. Pizaza is great, but not for breakfast.
OOPS! went back to look at my trip notes and saw that i wrote $100 us not pounds ::)!! But even so , we still were not so impressed with the food there....
here is a clip what I took from changing of the guard when I was in London in NOV 2014 . it's different than the regular because they head some guest over there . I took it with my S5 not the best .
That looks really cool-you got great "seats", but that is def. not the regular ceremony-lucky you-you came on a good day!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on December 08, 2014, 05:22:42 PM
OOPS! went back to look at my trip notes and saw that i wrote $100 us not pounds ::)!! But even so , we still were not so impressed with the food there....That looks really cool-you got great "seats", but that is def. not the regular ceremony-lucky you-you came on a good day!
I came 1 hour before.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 12, 2014, 11:06:06 AM
I'm taking a British Airways flight from Italy to London with a two hour stopover and continuing to New York with British Airways, is the flights arriving from Italy to London in the same terminal as the flight to New York? If not how far is the terminal to New York?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 12, 2014, 11:17:01 AM
I'm taking a British Airways flight from Italy to London with a two hour stopover and continuing to New York with British Airways, is the flights arriving from Italy to London in the same terminal as the flight to New York? If not how far is the terminal to New York?
All BA flights are in terminal 5. It might be in a different concourse though (I think that there is one concourse in the main terminal building and 2 others). There is a train that goes between the concourses.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 12, 2014, 11:18:20 AM
All BA flights are in terminal 5. It might be in a different concourse though (I think that there is one concourse in the main terminal building and 2 others). There is a train that goes between the concourses.
Do I need to go through passport control? How long would you estimate the transfer to take?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 12, 2014, 11:20:01 AM
Do I need to go through passport control? How long would you estimate the transfer to take?
IIRC, there is no passport control or customs. I'm not good with times but it shouldn't take long.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 12, 2014, 11:23:28 AM
IIRC, there is no passport control or customs. I'm not good with times but it shouldn't take long.
Thanks
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on December 12, 2014, 02:09:30 PM
All BA flights are in terminal 5. It might be in a different concourse though (I think that there is one concourse in the main terminal building and 2 others). There is a train that goes between the concourses.
-1 there are a few ba flights in terminal 1 and even more in t3.
You should check beforehand what terminal your flight lands at.
There are no passport control when you transfer via any terminal!
But the bus that travels between terminals could take time
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 12, 2014, 03:23:59 PM
-1 there are a few ba flights in terminal 1 and even more in t3.
You should check beforehand what terminal your flight lands at.
There are no passport control when you transfer via any terminal!
But the bus that travels between terminals could take time
Thanks! Both flights are T5.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on December 12, 2014, 04:09:44 PM
Thanks! Both flights are T5.
Good, two hours should be fine!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 12, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
Good, two hours should be fine!
More like 80 minutes, my mistake
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on December 14, 2014, 03:31:31 PM
No, but you do need to schedule a massage/facial well in advance.
+441614483013
You can only schedule it after 4 weeks from departure.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 14, 2014, 03:33:33 PM
You can only schedule it after 4 weeks from departure.
For someone who plans trips 2 hours before departure, 4 weeks is wayyyyy in advance ;)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2014, 03:41:02 PM
BTW there is a changing of the guard tour that my wife and I did in London and it was really a fun way to see it. It's led by a very energetic and interesting fellow named Matt and he basically takes on a walking tour starting from where the guards get ready then you march alongside them to where they switch, etc.... You get to see alot more than standing in front squished with loads of people. And it was pretty cheap (for London standards at least). Here is a link to his website:
http://www.funlondontours.com/london-walking-tours/changing-the-guard

Did the tour. Was money well-spent. Thanks!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 15, 2014, 12:59:27 PM
Did the tour. Was money well-spent. Thanks!
My pleasure!! Glad you enjoyed! I cant wait to see/read about it in the tr!! :D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on December 18, 2014, 08:39:52 PM
I am going to Harry Potter Studio tour on thursday afternoon. Any suggestions for place to stop on the drive back to London (west end) to stop for dinner and maybe also pick up food for shabbos (staying in the west end). Thanks in advance
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 18, 2014, 10:54:58 PM
I am going to Harry Potter Studio tour on thursday afternoon. Any suggestions for place to stop on the drive back to London (west end) to stop for dinner and maybe also pick up food for shabbos (staying in the west end). Thanks in advance
Supposedly, it's close to the Jewish community of Golder's Green. In there, you can find plenty of Kosher places.
In London proper, there aren't too many Kosher places. You can order expensive Shabbos food from Reuben's or pick up food in GG on your way back from HP or order from the Kosher food website that was mentioned other places in this thread (and may be in the wiki?).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on December 19, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
Supposedly, it's close to the Jewish community of Golder's Green. In there, you can find plenty of Kosher places.
In London proper, there aren't too many Kosher places. You can order expensive Shabbos food from Reuben's or pick up food in GG on your way back from HP or order from the Kosher food website that was mentioned other places in this thread (and may be in the wiki?).

Thanks. Any suggestions where to go in GG for food and takeout for shabbos?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on December 19, 2014, 07:29:23 AM
Thanks. Any suggestions where to go in GG for food and takeout for shabbos?
I haven't been there, but I would suggest the wiki for starters.
Title: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on December 19, 2014, 08:27:43 AM
Thanks. Any suggestions where to go in GG for food and takeout for shabbos?
reichs deli,
Shop Address 9-10 Princess Parade Golders Green London NW11 9PS
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 19, 2014, 11:26:13 AM
reichs deli,
Shop Address 9-10 Princess Parade Golders Green London NW11 9PS
I'm not sure what his prices are but I know that Reich's is at the upper end of caterers with a Kedassia (chassidishe) hechsher. There must be a cheaper option.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on February 16, 2015, 06:22:26 AM
Staying in London for one day and I dont want to go to golders green . Is there a place for milchig food (cafe or bagels) in London?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on February 16, 2015, 06:38:26 AM
Staying in London for one day and I dont want to go to golders green . Is there a place for milchig food (cafe or bagels) in London?

??
London is huge and Golders Green isn't the only Jewish neighborhood.
Can you be more specific?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on February 16, 2015, 06:55:53 AM
Staying in the conrad st james   22-28 Broadway, London SW1H 0BH,  which is pretty close to buckingham palace. I'm looking for something near there or the other major attractions
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 16, 2015, 07:25:04 AM
Food in London not called golders green is scarce. Even stamford hill where there is a huge oilem is left back restaurant wise. I think its looked down if someone eats out
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on February 16, 2015, 07:40:46 AM
Staying in the conrad st james   22-28 Broadway, London SW1H 0BH,  which is pretty close to buckingham palace. I'm looking for something near there or the other major attractions

Stamford Hill is the closest jewish neighborhood to your location. Its about 6 miles and would be a 40 min subway ride.
Besides for Reuben's (fleishig) deli/takeaway on Baker St. (Right near the British Museum) which is about 2 miles from your location I'm not aware of any closer kosher cafes than in Stamford Hill.

Food in London not called golders green is scarce.

I would have to disagree on that. If you know your way around Greater London, there are plenty of nice restaurants.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 16, 2015, 07:54:00 AM
If you're staying downtown and don't want to go on a subway for breakfast (which I didn't want to do and don't blame you), find a bodega with fruit and look for random products that might have KLBD on them like chips and chocolate. That's probably your best bet. If you google for the latest KLBD products-that-are-kosher-but-don't-have-a-hechsher-on-them list, you may find a cereal or two that are Kosher and you can buy.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on February 16, 2015, 08:00:12 AM
I noticed this in the wikki   .....  In the City Munch'n'Crunch have a stand in Hatton Garden with kosher meals, sandwiches, sushi and coffee. It is located at 32 Hatton Garden, on the lower-ground floor of Jewellery Emporium. There is also Mincha there at 1:30. Do you know anything about it
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on February 16, 2015, 08:14:02 AM
I noticed this in the wikki   .....  In the City Munch'n'Crunch have a stand in Hatton Garden with kosher meals, sandwiches, sushi and coffee. It is located at 32 Hatton Garden, on the lower-ground floor of Jewellery Emporium. There is also Mincha there at 1:30. Do you know anything about it

Nope. Never been there.
It's also about 2 miles from St. James' park
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on February 16, 2015, 08:18:50 AM
Stamford Hill is the closest jewish neighborhood to your location. Its about 6 miles and would be a 40 min subway ride.
Besides for Reuben's (fleishig) deli/takeaway on Baker St. (Right near the British Museum) which is about 2 miles from your location I'm not aware of any closer kosher cafes than in Stamford Hill.

I would have to disagree on that. If you know your way around Greater London, there are plenty of nice restaurants.
you can get hermolis sandwiches at many locations around london.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 16, 2015, 09:41:22 AM
I noticed this in the wikki   .....  In the City Munch'n'Crunch have a stand in Hatton Garden with kosher meals, sandwiches, sushi and coffee. It is located at 32 Hatton Garden, on the lower-ground floor of Jewellery Emporium. There is also Mincha there at 1:30. Do you know anything about it

What do you want to know about it?

BTW all information about most kosher food in London is in the wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 16, 2015, 10:41:29 AM
you can get hermolis sandwiches at many locations around london.
Which are great and cheap, but you won't know what sandwiches are at each location until you get there. He may show up at a grocery that only has meat sandwiches and it's 7AM. He may show up and find the yummy bagel lox and cc and have hit the jackpot. Thanks for reminding me that there were dairy DD Sandwiches -- so I now take back from previous comment - THAT'S the ideal breakfast option if you can find a place that has the non-meat DD Sandwich options that morning.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on March 09, 2015, 03:21:25 PM
HI,
I have one full day in London going to be there with my wife and 9 month old. What the top 3 or 4 things to do ? . Going to be staying near the buckingham palace . Would like to do most things in that area.

Also arriving 8 pm in Luton airport does anybody know of a taxi /car service that's reliable and not too expensive
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 09, 2015, 03:25:11 PM
HI,
I have one full day in London going to be there with my wife and 9 month old. What the top 3 or 4 things to do ? . Going to be staying near the buckingham palace . Would like to do most things in that area.

Also arriving 8 pm in Luton airport does anybody know of a taxi /car service that's reliable and not too expensive
Buckingham palace, Tower of London/crown jewels, London bridge. If you want to spend a lot of money you can go on the London Eye
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on March 09, 2015, 03:35:49 PM
Can i take a stroller in Buckingham palace ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 09, 2015, 03:41:00 PM
Can i take a stroller in Buckingham palace ?

Buckingham Palace is only open to visitors in August & September. You could watch Changing of the Guard with a stroller. If you want to see what a palace looks like on the inside and have a couple of hours to spare, go to Windsor Castle.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on March 09, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
do you recommend that tour guide matt?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 09, 2015, 04:17:11 PM
Yes, he's good. Well worth it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on March 09, 2015, 06:15:41 PM
Anyone being in LHR Wednesday morning (3/11) willing to share a ride to Stamford Hill?.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on March 11, 2015, 01:24:19 PM
 I would like to go to winsdor castle and then straight to the airport what can i do with my 2 large suitcases and hand luggage?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 11, 2015, 01:25:02 PM
I would like to go to winsdor castle and then straight to the airport what can i do with my 2 large suitcases and hand luggage?
Bring them to the castle?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on March 11, 2015, 01:29:14 PM
and they will let me leave them while i tour?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 11, 2015, 01:37:10 PM
and they will let me leave them while i tour?
The castle might have a locker room.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 11, 2015, 06:33:20 PM
and they will let me leave them while i tour?

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On arrival, you and your belongings will be subject to airport-style security checks. Please try to bring as little as possible with you as it will help you to get through security screening more quickly.

Some items, such as large items of baggage, backpacks, pushchairs, pen-knives and scissors will have to be checked in and reclaimed at the end of the visit. Please find the full list here. (http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/sites/default/files/windsor_castle_prohibited_items_download_list.pdf)

Your best bet is to call them beforehand and ask.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: bk73 on March 17, 2015, 01:35:09 PM
do you need a reservations for ruebens?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 17, 2015, 01:52:21 PM
do you need a reservations for ruebens?
I only had take-out but it didn't seem like reservations were needed.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 17, 2015, 02:51:05 PM
do you need a reservations for ruebens?
For sit-down, they could get quite busy so it's best to call to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on April 01, 2015, 12:47:24 PM
From what I can see people have mixed reviews about visiting Stonehenge.  We were thinking of going with Golden Tours on the morning Stonehenge only tour. Has anyone done it? The only thing which concerns me slightly is that there's no real tour guide, just an audioguide. Renting a car, paying for gas, and entrance tickets to Stonehenge is more expensive. We won't have time to do a full-day trip to other locations nearby.

Is it still worth visiting with the tour?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 01, 2015, 12:50:44 PM
From what I can see people have mixed reviews about visiting Stonehenge.  We were thinking of going with Golden Tours on the morning Stonehenge only tour. Has anyone done it? The only thing which concerns me slightly is that there's no real tour guide, just an audioguide. Renting a car, paying for gas, and entrance tickets to Stonehenge is more expensive. We won't have time to do a full-day trip to other locations nearby.

Is it still worth visiting with the tour?
No guide? The full day has one, and I think that definitely made a difference.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on April 01, 2015, 12:54:16 PM
No guide? The full day has one, and I think that definitely made a difference.
I know. None of the half day tours have guides. Given that fact, would you still think visiting Stonehenge is worth it? Keep in mind that it's £44/person, but I have the 50% off from Musement, so it would be £44 (€61) for both.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on April 01, 2015, 01:00:49 PM
I know. None of the half day tours have guides. Given that fact, would you still think visiting Stonehenge is worth it? Keep in mind that it's £44/person, but I have the 50% off from Musement, so it would be £44 (€61) for both.
Well, seeing it was cool. The guide basically just runs down the different theories behind what Stongehenge is, while also just being kinda fun with the British accent and pointing out things on the way. The audioguide probably does similar things just without the personality.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on April 01, 2015, 01:12:25 PM
Well, seeing it was cool. The guide basically just runs down the different theories behind what Stongehenge is, while also just being kinda fun with the British accent and pointing out things on the way. The audioguide probably does similar things just without the personality.
So I guess we'll go for it. Now time to decide on Versailles. Off to the Paris thread...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: danR on May 05, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
I have a nine-hr stop over in LHR, what is worth while going to with my wife and a 7 year-old
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 05, 2015, 04:03:33 PM
I have a nine-hr stop over in LHR, what is worth while going to with my wife and a 7 year-old
Buckingham palace+Tower of London (Crown jewels, etc.)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Littlemookie on May 14, 2015, 11:21:03 PM
I have 2 business meetings coming up in London restaurants where I am only the only kosher person eating. The meetings are at different restaurants but both will be around buckingham palace. I would like to order food on China and have it served along with the others, but I'm not sure which place to order from? They all seem to want a delivery fee of 25-40 pounds, which nearly doubles the price of the meal. I'm willing to pick up the food, but staying near Westminster and will be using public transit. Is Hermolis the best place to order from in this case? TIA
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Littlemookie on May 17, 2015, 08:36:36 AM
I have 2 business meetings coming up in London restaurants where I am only the only kosher person eating. The meetings are at different restaurants but both will be around buckingham palace. I would like to order food on China and have it served along with the others, but I'm not sure which place to order from? They all seem to want a delivery fee of 25-40 pounds, which nearly doubles the price of the meal. I'm willing to pick up the food, but staying near Westminster and will be using public transit. Is Hermolis the best place to order from in this case? TIA

In a strange turn of events, it looks like I'm going to order in from Bevis Marks, the delivery fee is cheaper, the food is priced similar to Hermolis, and I can pick up the food and deal with any issues easier since I'm staying in Central London. Has anyone used Bevis Marks The Restaurant for takeaway on china to a non-kosher restaurant before?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on May 22, 2015, 11:02:26 AM
How is Andaz in Liverpool location-wise is it far from kosher places/sights (just need 1 good one)? Looking into doing 2 nights in London on way home from Israel and the Regency is under construction and not letting us redeem free nights.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 22, 2015, 01:06:02 PM
For sightseeing the location is good. For minyan it is terrible. For Kosher food, you are not close to anything (the Regency is close to Reuben's, but nothing else)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on May 24, 2015, 01:58:13 PM
For sightseeing the location is good. For minyan it is terrible. For Kosher food, you are not close to anything (the Regency is close to Reuben's, but nothing else)

Actually, if you are into Sephardi davening the location is great. There is a daily minyan at 7:15 at Bevis Marks with free breakfast afterwards. Beautiful shul. There is also a kosher restaurant close by (the one at the shul is closed, there is another 2 minutes walk away)

Shul - http://www.bevismarks.org/

Restaurant - http://www.bevismarkstherestaurant.com/


Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 08, 2015, 12:47:25 AM
As of now we'll only have one day in London on which we can see the changing of the guard ceremony, possible with Fun London Tours (http://www.funlondontours.com/changing-the-guard-london-walking-tour) (with Matt).  At the same time it's also the only day we can take the Free Tour of London (http://www.newlondon-tours.com/daily-tours.html).  If we do one tour we will not be able to do the other tour due to our time constraints (our flight from LCY leaves at 6:40pm, so we'd need to be at the airport at 4:45/5:00p or so?).

My question is: Which tour is better for a first time visitor to London (I've been, DW hasn't)? I've heard really good things about Matt's tour, but it doesn't really cover some of the "basics" from what I understand.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 08, 2015, 12:51:25 PM
How long before a LCY-MAD flight (on BA) do I need to be at the airport? We're not checking bags. 60 minute? 90 minute?

ETA: This is from BA.com (http://www.britishairways.com/en-us/information/airport-information/london-city)
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Please ensure you are familiar with the check-in and boarding times used at London City airport as they differ from other London airports.

You must pass through check-in 20 minutes before your flight if you are checking in baggage, or 15 minutes before your flight if you have hand baggage only.

You must be at your boarding gate at least 10 minutes before your flight.

If you do not meet these times, you will not be allowed on to your flight.

Does anyone have personal experience with this? Seems like getting to the airport even 45 minutes before the flight is too much time.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 09, 2015, 01:57:40 PM
As of now we'll only have one day in London on which we can see the changing of the guard ceremony, possible with Fun London Tours (http://www.funlondontours.com/changing-the-guard-london-walking-tour) (with Matt).  At the same time it's also the only day we can take the Free Tour of London (http://www.newlondon-tours.com/daily-tours.html).  If we do one tour we will not be able to do the other tour due to our time constraints (our flight from LCY leaves at 6:40pm, so we'd need to be at the airport at 4:45/5:00p or so?).

My question is: Which tour is better for a first time visitor to London (I've been, DW hasn't)? I've heard really good things about Matt's tour, but it doesn't really cover some of the "basics" from what I understand.
BUMP
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 09, 2015, 02:08:49 PM
BUMP
I thought that it covered alot of basics-the tour starts as a walking tour before it reaches any of the changing of the guard area and he tells you what all the squares and statues are and who lived where, etc... and then comes the whole changing of the guard tour-I found it to be an amazing and informative tour....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 09, 2015, 02:17:42 PM
I thought that it covered alot of basics-the tour starts as a walking tour before it reaches any of the changing of the guard area and he tells you what all the squares and statues are and who lived where, etc... and then comes the whole changing of the guard tour-I found it to be an amazing and informative tour....
So you'd do that and skip the free walking tour? I imagine the free tour (2.5-3 hours long vs 1:40) covers a lot more. Or would you do both? What squares in particular does it cover?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 09, 2015, 02:23:14 PM
I thought that it covered alot of basics-the tour starts as a walking tour before it reaches any of the changing of the guard area and he tells you what all the squares and statues are and who lived where, etc... and then comes the whole changing of the guard tour-I found it to be an amazing and informative tour....
Just because it was informative and a great overall tour does not make it the best option. when you only have time to do one tour, I would think the goal is to see as many major sights as possible.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 09, 2015, 02:59:03 PM
Just because it was informative and a great overall tour does not make it the best option. when you only have time to do one tour, I would think the goal is to see as many major sights as possible.
True, but I may have time for two tours. On the other hand, if the free your covers a lot of things Matt's tour covers it may be a bit of a repeat. If we just do one though I may agree with you (having not do Matt's tour).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 09, 2015, 03:08:40 PM
True, but I may have time for two tours. On the other hand, if the free your covers a lot of things Matt's tour covers it may be a bit of a repeat. If we just do one though I may agree with you (having not do Matt's tour).
There are generally two ways of doing things seeing everything but not really getting any depth, and seeing less things more thoroughly different people enjoy differently. I would imagine that the in depth tour would not be boring even if you already "toured" these sights.

As a side note  I spent a week in London and on the last night did a night bus tour that was very quick but covered most area's.  I immediately regretted not doing the tour on my first day there because it gives me a whole picture of the city which I  could have then gone and experienced separated (instead I experienced many of these sights separately and then got the whole picture which I realized afterwards was backwards)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 09, 2015, 03:15:13 PM
There are generally two ways of doing things seeing everything but not really getting any depth, and seeing less things more thoroughly different people enjoy differently. I would imagine that the in depth tour would not be boring even if you already "toured" these sights.

As a side note  I spent a week in London and on the last night did a night bus tour that was very quick but covered most area's.  I immediately regretted not doing the tour on my first day there because it gives me a whole picture of the city which I  could have then gone and experienced separated (instead I experienced many of these sights separately and then got the whole picture which I realized afterwards was backwards)
I hear ya. I've done the bus tour of London the last time I was there, and it was a great tour. This time we thought doing the walking tour would be enough (DW hasn't been to London before). I'm not sure what you mean by the bold above. Are you assuming the shorter, changing of the guard tour is more detailed?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 09, 2015, 03:18:02 PM
I hear ya. I've done the bus tour of London the last time I was there, and it was a great tour. This time we thought doing the walking tour would be enough (DW hasn't been to London before). I'm not sure what you mean by the bold above. Are you assuming the shorter, changing of the guard tour is more detailed?
From what I understood I thought it was a shorter more In depth tour I guess I misunderstood...  The night bus was great as all the buildings were beautifully lit up great picture taking opportunity.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 09, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
From what I understood I thought it was a shorter more In depth tour I guess I misunderstood...  The night bus was great as all the buildings were beautifully lit up great picture taking opportunity.
I'm not sure, but from what I understood the shorter tour just went to a few places before the changing ceremony. We will only have one night in London (Thu night is booked, Fri/Sat are out, Sun night we leave), so the night tour is not an option, but thanks for the idea.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 09, 2015, 03:20:42 PM
I'm not sure, but from what I understood the shorter tour just went to a few places before the changing ceremony. We will only have one night in London (Thu night is booked, Fri/Sat are out, Sun night we leave), so the night tour is not an option, but thanks for the idea.
There's always next time
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 09, 2015, 03:23:43 PM
There's always next time
I think by next time I'll be all toured out, and would prefer to do things on my own, but who knows. :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 09, 2015, 03:29:20 PM
So you'd do that and skip the free walking tour? I imagine the free tour (2.5-3 hours long vs 1:40) covers a lot more. Or would you do both? What squares in particular does it cover?
check out Matt's website (he is the tour guide)-funlondontours.com-it seems like some things have changed since I did the tour as he now offers another tour which he says compliments the changing of the guard tour called the essential london tour-which also covers all the important sites and squares-maybe email him and see if you can do both that day with him....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 09, 2015, 03:34:03 PM
check out Matt's website (he is the tour guide)-funlondontours.com-it seems like some things have changed since I did the tour as he now offers another tour which he says compliments the changing of the guard tour called the essential london tour-which also covers all the important sites and squares-maybe email him and see if you can do both that day with him....
I did see that, but I was confused. It starts at 9:50 and ends 11:40, while the changing tour starts at 10:10. It's also showing as unavailable until August, presumably because of the changing tour taking place then. Also, the essential tour says it covers Trafalgar Square (but I don't know if the Changing tour covers it as well on days the essential tour aren't offered.

I already emailed Matt and asked him what the changing tour covers. I'm waiting to hear back. Do you remember where the changing tour went before the actual ceremony?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 09, 2015, 03:38:25 PM
I did see that, but I was confused. It starts at 9:50 and ends 11:40, while the changing tour starts at 10:10. It's also showing as unavailable until August, presumably because of the changing tour taking place then. Also, the essential tour says it covers Trafalgar Square (but I don't know if the Changing tour covers it as well on days the essential tour aren't offered.

I already emailed Matt and asked him what the changing tour covers. I'm waiting to hear back. Do you remember where the changing tour went before the actual ceremony?
I remember walking for like half hour but I do not remember exactly where (thats what happens when you dont write up a tr right away :()
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dave A on June 11, 2015, 12:27:02 PM
Thinking about booking TLV-LGW (EasyJet...landing midnight) and then LHR-ORD (United, leaving 8am the next day).  2 adults, 2 little kids.  I think my best bet is to stay near LHR so that we don't need to sit in traffic in the AM to the airport.

Can someone recommend (a) best & cheapest way to get from LGW to LHR hotel at midnight with kids and luggage, and (b) hotels that are easiest to go hotel-to-LHR?  Ideally Hyatt or Marriott.

Thanks!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on June 11, 2015, 03:05:48 PM
Thinking about booking TLV-LGW (EasyJet...landing midnight) and then LHR-ORD (United, leaving 8am the next day).  2 adults, 2 little kids.  I think my best bet is to stay near LHR so that we don't need to sit in traffic in the AM to the airport.

Can someone recommend (a) best & cheapest way to get from LGW to LHR hotel at midnight with kids and luggage, and (b) hotels that are easiest to go hotel-to-LHR?  Ideally Hyatt or Marriott.

Thanks!
I believe there's a bus that goes direct from LGW to LHR, but your routing is a real shlep & with two little kids I wouldn't recommend it unless you have no other choice
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on June 11, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
I believe there's a bus that goes direct from LGW to LHR, but your routing is a real shlep & with two little kids I wouldn't recommend it unless you have no other choice

There is a bus but it isn't cheap and wont be frequent at that time of night. I would just take a minicab, should be around 75 pounds for the 4 of you .
But I would agree 100% that this is NOT a good routing. You and the kids will be exhausted. If possible take the BA or LY flights to LHR - or even a flight direct from LGW to US (eg Norwegian)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 17, 2015, 12:01:41 AM
Does anyone know how transfers on the underground work? If I wanted to change trains (using an Oyster card), can I leave the station for a couple minutes or would that make me have to pay again?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 17, 2015, 01:04:09 AM
Does anyone know how transfers on the underground work? If I wanted to change trains (using an Oyster card), can I leave the station for a couple minutes or would that make me have to pay again?
If you leave the station you would have to pay again.
(Is there any subway system in the world that wouldn't make you pay again if you leave the station?)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 17, 2015, 01:10:17 AM
If you leave the station you would have to pay again.
(Is there any subway system in the world that wouldn't make you pay again if you leave the station?)
I was asking because this (https://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/oyster/using-oyster/touching-in-and-out) site seems to imply that if you tap in and change your mind you have 2 minutes to exit without being charged. I didn't know if it applied to a transfer as well. Look in the "Same Station Exits" section.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jungarmtl on June 25, 2015, 02:22:09 PM
I'm going to London for a week anything major not to miss there?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 25, 2015, 02:24:00 PM
I'm going to London for a week anything major not to miss there?
Yes, there are lots of major things not to miss. Read through the wiki and the thread for great ideas and then ask some specific questions you may still have.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: abo456 on June 25, 2015, 04:32:48 PM
I'm gonna be in London for just a quick stop this summer before moving onto 1 week in Paris and 1 week in Rome. Only 1 full day in London't as an extended stop over.

I was thinking a tour of Buckingham palace and the tower of London would be the main activities for the day. However when I proposed this to a coworker she said to skip the Buckingham palace tour since I will be visiting Versailles on the trip and go to the British museum instead. Either way, this trip will have a plethora of museums and palaces. Thoughts on Buckingham palace? Or a better 1 day itinerary?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 25, 2015, 05:56:22 PM
I'm gonna be in London for just a quick stop this summer before moving onto 1 week in Paris and 1 week in Rome. Only 1 full day in London't as an extended stop over.

I was thinking a tour of Buckingham palace and the tower of London would be the main activities for the day. However when I proposed this to a coworker she said to skip the Buckingham palace tour since I will be visiting Versailles on the trip and go to the British museum instead. Either way, this trip will have a plethora of museums and palaces. Thoughts on Buckingham palace? Or a better 1 day itinerary?
We did the inside of Buckingham palace tour and thought it was pretty cool-not a tremendous amount to see though as they do not let you into any of the functioning parts of the palace (like the living qaurters, throne room, etc)-it was just really cool to have been inside Buckingham palace-I would not do it though if I only had 1 day in London.
Perhaps consider the changing of the guard tour (in the wiki) and then the tower of London to see crown jewels...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
she said to skip the Buckingham palace tour since I will be visiting Versailles on the trip and go to the British museum instead.
i actually enjoyed buckingham palace more than versailles.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 25, 2015, 06:36:09 PM
i actually enjoyed buckingham palace more than versailles.
Why?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2015, 06:41:45 PM
i just thought versailles felt a bit too bare, after all it was ransacked. i really enjoyed buckingham palace
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Racer7400 on July 07, 2015, 07:18:49 PM
im going to be in London for a couple of hours (plane lands at 7:15am and next flight departs at 4:40pm) i would like to know what my best option would be for food and maybe a little sight seeing thanx a lot.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on July 07, 2015, 07:24:52 PM
im going to be in London for a couple of hours (plane lands at 7:15am and next flight departs at 4:40pm) i would like to know what my best option would be for food and maybe a little sight seeing thanx a lot.

golders green for food, tower of london for sightseeing
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: clear thinker on July 07, 2015, 07:43:00 PM
im going to be in London for a couple of hours (plane lands at 7:15am and next flight departs at 4:40pm) i would like to know what my best option would be for food and maybe a little sight seeing thanx a lot.

golders green for food, tower of london for sightseeing
Or Rubine's for food.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Domestic 4 Less on July 07, 2015, 07:48:58 PM
i think London eye would be more intrsting
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on July 07, 2015, 08:06:28 PM
i think London eye would be more intrsting
-1 million

that place is a pure waste of time
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on July 07, 2015, 08:09:09 PM
Yep, go to the wonder wheel in brooklyn. Its more breezy
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Racer7400 on July 07, 2015, 09:09:44 PM
golders green for food, tower of london for sightseeing
thanx any idea how far golders green is from the tower of london?
Or Rubine's for food.
.any idea if ruben's is bet yosef meat? i noticed it has a sefardi hechsher. also any idea if its on the pricer side?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: clear thinker on July 07, 2015, 09:31:44 PM
thanx any idea how far golders green is from the tower of london?.any idea if ruben's is bet yosef meat? i noticed it has a sefardi hechsher. also any idea if its on the pricer side?
All I remember is that it's a very good hechsher.
Iirc It's a bit pricey but not too bad.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on July 07, 2015, 10:43:26 PM
thanx any idea how far golders green is from the tower of london?
At least half hour drive or 1 hr with the London Underground (subway)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 08, 2015, 09:53:18 AM
i actually enjoyed buckingham palace more than versailles.

Then you would enjoy Windsor Castle as well...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
im going to be in London for a couple of hours (plane lands at 7:15am and next flight departs at 4:40pm) i would like to know what my best option would be for food and maybe a little sight seeing thanx a lot.
golders green for food, tower of london for sightseeing
I wouldn't schlepp into GG for food on a short stay. I'd rather pack in activities. Get some cheap DD Sandwiches at their random locations throughout the city and spend your time enjoying the sites.
Or Rubine's for food.
Reuben's is not a cheap deli. It's not Reserve Cut, but it's still not a cheap lunch. I would go for dropping 3-5GBP on a DD Sandwich instead.

In terms of activities for a day in the city:
1) You'll be there early and can probably get a good spot for Changing of the Guard at Buckingham Palace. Perhaps opt for the Changing of the Guard tour that AJK took (search this thread somewhere).
2) You can hop over to see Big Ben and Westminster Abbey, but that's really more to just see, not much to do (assuming you won't go in because of the Church concern).
3) Visit Tower of London, which is cool to walk around and you get to see the Crown Jewels there.

I think you can do the above 3 items to get some of the classic touristy things packed into a fun day.

If you're into something else, and If you're a die-hard Harry Potter fan, you might be able to catch the first bus in the morning to the Warner Bros. Harry Potter Studio Tour and still make it back for your flight. But look into the times, it would probably be cutting it close. Some other ideas: I haven't been to the museums in London, but I hear some of them are very good. Additionally, it's not a "must-do" but I loved the London Dungeon - take a look into that.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 08, 2015, 03:21:09 PM
Anyone in London now through Friday? Keep in mind there's a tube/train strike until Midnight on Friday. All tube/train lines are suspended. https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/tube/tube-strike?cid=tube-strike
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 17, 2015, 01:59:15 PM
Reuben's is not a cheap deli. It's not Reserve Cut, but it's still not a cheap lunch. I would go for dropping 3-5GBP on a DD Sandwich instead.

--

Might have been confusing it with http://www.rubinsboston.com/, the finest kosher deli in New England. (the only one, AFAIK)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 17, 2015, 02:50:01 PM
Question about visiting Windsor Castle:

We will be visiting London for three nights, arriving LHR from TLV at 10AM on a Monday and then departing on Thursday early morning.

I see that Windsor Castle seems relatively close to LHR.

Does it make sense to go to Windsor Castle directly from LHR, before going into London?

We will have more than carry-on luggage, and it doesn't seem to be possible to check/store large luggage at the Castle.
Suggestions?

I was wondering if we could leave our checked luggage unclaimed (flying BA) and then loop back to LHR after visiting Windsor Castle to pick it up.   Is that even possible? Or, is this all more hassle than it's worth?

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 17, 2015, 03:57:45 PM
Question about visiting Windsor Castle:

We will be visiting London for three nights, arriving LHR from TLV at 10AM on a Monday and then departing on Thursday early morning.

I see that Windsor Castle seems relatively close to LHR.

Does it make sense to go to Windsor Castle directly from LHR, before going into London?

We will have more than carry-on luggage, and it doesn't seem to be possible to check/store large luggage at the Castle.
Suggestions?

I was wondering if we could leave our checked luggage unclaimed (flying BA) and then loop back to LHR after visiting Windsor Castle to pick it up.   Is that even possible? Or, is this all more hassle than it's worth?
Windsor Castle is very nice. Not an absolute must-see, but it's very nice. Are you planning to rent a car to go there? Maybe there's a luggage hold place in the airport.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 19, 2015, 09:02:11 AM
Thanks, @Yehuda. Yes, this is my second visit to Windsor Castle, first for my DW and son. Good suggestion about "left baggage" -- LHR does offer, with per-bag rates of 5GBP for 0-2hrs and 10GBP for 2-24hrs. I don't really want to rent a car, so we could do Uber from LHR to WC, then Uber back to LHR, pick up our bag(s), and then continue on to our hotel (Hyatt Regency). Or, might just Tube directly to hotel from LHR, and then next day Tube back to Windsor.  Just trying to figure out if saving the time and travel by seeing WC directly from LHR is worth the added expenses.   Thanks, again!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 19, 2015, 09:12:03 AM
Restaurant 1701 was amazing. Better food than almost any restaurant, anywhere. Small portions, and complex dishes. They are not open for dinner on Mondays, so we went for lunch. check came out to $175.

http://www.restaurant1701.co.uk/ (http://www.restaurant1701.co.uk/)

I have heard many great things about 1701, but it appears they are closed at present. (See pasted info from their website below, and yes I have a read other news and have also signed up for updates on the website.) Does anyone have an update on whether/when/where they will be reopening?

"Summer 2015

We are still aiming to reopen in the West End and hope to be able to confirm the new location soon. Please register with us below and we will keep you updated."
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 19, 2015, 12:07:27 PM

I have heard many great things about 1701, but it appears they are closed at present. (See pasted info from their website below, and yes I have a read other news and have also signed up for updates on the website.) Does anyone have an update on whether/when/where they will be reopening?

"Summer 2015

We are still aiming to reopen in the West End and hope to be able to confirm the new location soon. Please register with us below and we will keep you updated."

They didn't find a new location yet. They have a takeout concession in Selfridges.

Thy just announced a catering service too
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on July 19, 2015, 08:35:33 PM

They didn't find a new location yet. They have a takeout concession in Selfridges.

Thy just announced a catering service too
Thanks. We will look for it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 19, 2015, 08:41:37 PM

Thanks. We will look for it.

It won't be like he restaurant, but could be interesting nonetheless.

I really hope they open soon.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on July 23, 2015, 10:34:03 PM
just wanted to point out that people should do research before deciding to rely on certain hechsherim, especially for meat. the sfradi kashrus authority, which to the best of my knowledge certifies ruben's, isn't very reliable at all
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on August 20, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Im looking for a place to print flyers for very cheap. Any lead?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 20, 2015, 02:02:37 PM
Im looking for a place to print flyers for very cheap. Any lead?
In London?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on August 20, 2015, 02:04:04 PM
In London?
isn't this the london thread?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 20, 2015, 03:15:04 PM
isn't this the london thread?
Yeah, but it's not your typical question, that's why I was asking.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on August 21, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
Yeah, but it's not your typical question, that's why I was asking.
I know, i was sent here by some other thread
There's no thread about it but you could ask here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=141.0).
Title: Updated link for Contactless Payment cards in Wiki
Post by: gartm on August 31, 2015, 04:56:52 PM
https://contactless.tfl.gov.uk/
Title: Re: Updated link for Contactless Payment cards in Wiki
Post by: yitzy93 on September 01, 2015, 08:54:13 AM
https://contactless.tfl.gov.uk/
Huh?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on September 09, 2015, 11:14:04 AM
I'm arriving with Norwegian in LGW in T-S and I have to catch a connection with BA in T-N.  How much time do I need to make this connection? Will I have to go through security / passport control?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 11:36:01 AM
I'm arriving with Norwegian in LGW in T-S and I have to catch a connection with BA in T-N.  How much time do I need to make this connection? Will I have to go through security / passport control?

not going to answer your question, I have a question for you actually.. you fly Norwegian????????????
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on September 09, 2015, 04:47:45 PM
not going to answer your question, I have a question for you actually.. you fly Norwegian????????????
Don't worry. Its not actually for my self.... But FYI on a day flight when I don't need to sleep I would anytime book their premium economy. You can't beat their prices!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 09, 2015, 05:02:30 PM
I'm arriving with Norwegian in LGW in T-S and I have to catch a connection with BA in T-N.  How much time do I need to make this connection? Will I have to go through security / passport control?
Where are you connecting to? If it's within the UK or Ireland you probably will have to clear customs. If it's to anywhere else you might not.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jameswacht on September 10, 2015, 07:07:48 AM
Any decent breakfast place in the city?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on September 10, 2015, 07:25:38 AM
i'd recommend soya or isola bella
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on September 10, 2015, 08:52:46 AM
I know, i was sent here by some other thread
any specific area ur looking for ? stamford hill or golders green ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yuds70 on September 10, 2015, 04:39:25 PM
If you are near Golders Green I too would recommend Isola Bella. but it can get pricey.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yuds70 on September 10, 2015, 04:40:28 PM
i'd recommend soya or isola bella
I think you mean Soyo
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on October 10, 2015, 04:06:38 PM
What is the best dairy place in London?
Maxim or Isabella ?
Are they worth schlepping too?

Tia
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 10, 2015, 09:32:03 PM
What is the best dairy place in London?
Maxim or Isabella ?
Are they worth schlepping too?

Tia

isola bella 1000% worth it
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on October 10, 2015, 09:32:59 PM
isola bella 1000% worth it
+1, I love that place
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 12:18:10 PM
Any comparisons of the SPG and HGP options?
What do people do for shabbos? Switch to a GG hotel or just get take-out and stay in a points hotel?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 15, 2015, 12:21:01 PM
Any comparisons of the SPG and HGP options?
What do people do for shabbos? Switch to a GG hotel or just get take-out and stay in a points hotel?
I stayed at the Marriott Marble Arch, which is <5 minute walk to the Western Marble Arch Synagogue. Got takeout from Reuben's but felt it wasn't worth the money. Would rather have eaten the DD Sandwiches. The quiet Shabbos in the hotel was really nice. I believe there is a Holiday Inn next to one of the main Shuls in GG.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 15, 2015, 12:26:08 PM
something tells me this thread may be getting busy soon.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 12:38:56 PM
There's a holiday inn across the street from Kinloss synagogue near Golders Green. I have no idea if they take points but I'm sure Google has that information.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 15, 2015, 12:40:52 PM
There's a holiday inn across the street from Kinloss synagogue near Golders Green. I have no idea if they take points but I'm sure Google has that information.
Ah, that's the one.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 15, 2015, 12:43:05 PM
Anyone have thoughts on the Conrad?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 12:49:48 PM
Anyone have any SPG or Hyatt reviews?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 01:02:43 PM
Does anyone rent a car in London or that's pointless?

Just nervous about taking a cab and then having to walk around with 2 convertible carseats :P
Or is the underground good enough to not deal with cabs?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on October 15, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
Or is the underground good enough to not deal with cabs?
IME it was great. Possibly one of the cleanest and user-friendly public trans. systems I've encountered thus far.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 15, 2015, 01:08:38 PM
best way to go from london to ireland or scotland. Better off flying or training?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 01:11:53 PM
Is Thursday morning-Tuesday morning going to be overkill?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 15, 2015, 01:15:00 PM
Is Thursday morning-Tuesday morning going to be overkill?
i booked thursday to the following Sunday a full week+ will need to do a side trip of some sort
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 01:19:02 PM
Anyone have any SPG or Hyatt reviews?
My review of the Park Tower Knightsbridg (SPG) can be found here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53999.msg1209155#msg1209155).

Does anyone rent a car in London or that's pointless?

Just nervous about taking a cab and then having to walk around with 2 convertible carseats :P
Or is the underground good enough to not deal with cabs?
Totally pointless for a few reasons:

1) Congestion charging for driving in the center of the city
2) Horrible traffic
3) No parking or expensive parking
4) As MC said, the tube is excellent (unless it's closed as in my review above). Not only does it go everywhere, but it's faster than a car and cheaper than a taxi or Uber (kids are free on the tube).
5) Even going outside the city is easy with trains from one of the many stations in the city
6) Many attractions are within walking distance, so you wouldn't even need it.
7) If you did decide to rent a car, most of them are manual. Unless you drive manual normally, trying to drive manual on the other side of the car than you're used to may be tough. Automatic cars are a lot more expensive.

Finally, cabs are really spacious. If you haven't been in a London Black Cab before, the passenger area has a bench seat in the back and 2 seats that fold down that are  rear-facing with lots and lots of storage in between, so getting in one with strollers shouldn't be too hard.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 01:20:34 PM
Is Thursday morning-Tuesday morning going to be overkill?
Landing Thu or landing Fri? I don't think landing Thu is overkill at all, especially if you want to see things outside the city like Stonehenge, Oxford, Bath, or various castles.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ar on October 15, 2015, 01:23:41 PM
Is Thursday morning-Tuesday morning going to be overkill?

No its perfect. However, nothing major there on Shabbos...

-Don't take out a car since the driver seat is switched to the wrong side and the street roads are weird... Just stick with underground train or black cab (more knowledgeable than a regular cab).

-They have great food options (Great milchig places in Golders Geen - forgot the names)

-Buckingham palace, changing of the guards and London eye are a must. Also, you can do diggerland and legoland which are both much nicer than in the US.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ah41187 on October 15, 2015, 01:43:18 PM
is it possible to do a 1-2 day trip (without flying) to any other major eurpoean city (other than paris ) from london?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 01:45:32 PM
is it possible to do a 1-2 day trip (without flying) to any other major eurpoean city (other than paris ) from london?
MAN, GLA, EDI,ABZ, etc.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 15, 2015, 01:49:03 PM
Landing Thu or landing Fri? I don't think landing Thu is overkill at all, especially if you want to see things outside the city like Stonehenge, Oxford, Bath, or various castles.
How does one get to the "outside the city" attractions?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 01:54:20 PM
How does one get to the "outside the city" attractions?
They have buses and trains, though if you wanted to spend a lot of time outside the city you can rent a car. We took a bus to Stonehenge and the HP studio which was easy and efficient.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 15, 2015, 01:55:32 PM
They have buses and trains, though if you wanted to spend a lot of time outside the city you can rent a car. We took a bus to Stonehenge and the HP studio which was easy and efficient.
Landing on a Friday and departing Monday night. Enough time to go outside the city?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 01:59:51 PM
Landing on a Friday and departing Monday night. Enough time to go outside the city?
Yes, all day Sunday, though if it's the winter and you want to see London itself you won't have enough time.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 15, 2015, 02:01:31 PM
Yes, all day Sunday, though if it's the winter and you want to see London itself you won't have enough time.
Going to be summer.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
Going to be summer.
Have you been to London before and/or do you want to tour around the city itself?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 15, 2015, 02:06:14 PM
Have you been to London before and/or do you want to tour around the city itself?
First time getting out of the airport. Would like to go around the city.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 02:07:53 PM
First time getting out of the airport. Would like to go around the city.
Most places take in shabbos at 7:30p in the summer (besides Chabad), so you can have a long time on Friday.

Unless you have something outside the city you really want to see, there's no reason to leave. There's plenty to do for 2 days in the city itself.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 15, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
Most places take in shabbos at 7:30p in the summer (besides Chabad), so you can have a long time on Friday.

Unless you have something outside the city you really want to see, there's no reason to leave. There's plenty to do for 2 days in the city itself.
Great, thanks.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 02:10:00 PM
Dan, if you want any info about the Chabad community and shuls, feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
Great, thanks.
And FWIW I wouldn't go just to Stonehenge as I did. In the words of our bus driver, "it's just a pile of rocks; I don't know why people want to drive 2 hours to see a pile of worthless rocks."
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 02:11:59 PM
Dan, if you want any info about the Chabad community and shuls, feel free to PM me.
Why not post?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 02:14:43 PM
There's a great community in Golders Green (in fact 2 of them), both shuls are about a 15 minute walk from the holiday inn I mentioned above (in opposite directions). If you have any questions feel free to ask.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 02:16:52 PM
What's the story with the hotel?
Decent?
You can buy meals there?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 02:26:16 PM
What's the story with the hotel?
Decent?
You can buy meals there?
I just remembered the name. They call it a "holiday inn express". I wouldn't expect anything special, never been there myself but I heard it's pretty good.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: stbaum on October 15, 2015, 02:28:57 PM
IME it was great. Possibly one of the cleanest and user-friendly public trans. systems I've encountered thus far.
ditto
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 02:33:08 PM
IME it was great. Possibly one of the cleanest and user-friendly public trans. systems I've encountered thus far.
+1
The only advantage the NYC subway has is that it runs 24 hours.
The London underground stops around midnight and resumes around 6am.
Buses are very limited throughout the night. Check it up before you plan anything big for the night.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: stbaum on October 15, 2015, 02:59:44 PM
+1
The only advantage the NYC subway has is that it runs 24 hours.
The London underground stops around midnight and resumes around 6am.
Buses are very limited throughout the night. Check it up before you plan anything big for the night.

IIRC some say it's not very safe to go on the bus at night? not sure if it's antisemetism related or just bad neighborhoods
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 03:19:53 PM
IIRC some say it's not very safe to go on the bus at night? not sure if it's antisemetism related or just bad neighborhoods
Never heard of it being a problem
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 15, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
+1
The only advantage the NYC subway has is that it runs 24 hours.
The London underground stops around midnight and resumes around 6am.
Buses are very limited throughout the night. Check it up before you plan anything big for the night.

FYI they are in the middle of rolling out night service on the tube. A couple of lines are already running.

More info. (https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-improvements/the-future-of-the-tube/night-tube)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 03:58:25 PM
FYI they are in the middle of rolling out night service on the tube. A couple of lines are already running.

More info. (https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-improvements/the-future-of-the-tube/night-tube)
Wow, that's great for getting to/from LHR for super late/early departures/arrivals.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 15, 2015, 04:18:15 PM
So i booked arriving 12/27 9:30am departing 12/30 9pm. Sunday morning to Tuesday evening. What are my must see cant miss. These are my thoughts:
1. Buckingham
2. London Bridge
3. Big Ben
4. British Museum
5. London Eye.
Want to go to Stonehenge too. Anything else for me is a bonus. Never been out of LHR so please tell me what i must see.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 04:23:32 PM
So i booked arriving 12/27 9:30am departing 12/30 9pm. Sunday morning to Tuesday evening. What are my must see cant miss. This are my thoughts:
1. Buckingham
2. London Bridge
3. Big Ben
4. British Museum
5. London Eye.
Want to go to Stonehenge too. Anything else for me is a bonus. Never been out of LHR so please tell me what i must see.
Do Matt's tour of changing of the guard.

Big Ben doesn't have anything to do, just see, which you can do from the  London Eye just across the river.

The Tower of London (and the Crown Jewels) is cool and right near Tower Bridge (the one you're thinking of is not called London Bridge: the old London Bridge in Lake Havasu City, AZ).

The British Museum is just a museum, if you like those things, but that maybe good on a cold, rainy, winter day.

The London Dungeons are also supposedly cool and are literally right next to the London Eye as well.

The Harry Potter studio tour is way cooler than Stonehenge.

And FWIW I wouldn't go just to Stonehenge as I did. In the words of our bus driver, "it's just a pile of rocks; I don't know why people want to drive 2 hours to see a pile of worthless rocks."
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 15, 2015, 04:48:59 PM
As I've said before, Windsor Castle is way underrated. It's out of London, but has easy access by rail from Paddington Station.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
As I've said before, Windsor Castle is way underrated. It's out of London, but has easy access by rail from Paddington Station.
We would have loved to go, but didn't have time.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 04:57:00 PM
As I've said before, Windsor Castle is way underrated. It's out of London, but has easy access by rail from Paddington Station.
Would love to see a proposed Thursday morning-Tuesday morning itinerary doable with a 2 and 4 year old :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 05:20:29 PM
Does anyone rent a car in London or that's pointless?

Just nervous about taking a cab and then having to walk around with 2 convertible carseats :P
Or is the underground good enough to not deal with cabs?

I didn't, but the joke's on me after my baby vomited in the uber and I was stuck paying for it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2015, 05:22:05 PM
:D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 05:23:36 PM
I didn't, but the joke's on me after my baby vomited in the uber and I was stuck paying for it.
How much did that set you back?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 05:24:48 PM

How much did that set you back?

60 pounds (and probably a "3")
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 05:25:04 PM
Would love to see a proposed Thursday morning-Tuesday morning itinerary doable with a 2 and 4 year old :)
As I tell everyone who asks, what do you have interests in seeing? Then we can decide if your kids can handle it. Museums? Studio tours? 10-hour full day bus tours? I know you're not a huge tour person, but you've gone on some, so I don't know which ones you like and which you don't.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 05:26:19 PM
60 pounds (and probably a "3")
Yikes! That's a lot. Not that I have a baby yet, but Uber wouldn't pick me up after trying 7 times (and accepted and then rejected twice). I wonder if a Black Cab would have been cheaper?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 05:27:37 PM

Yikes! That's a lot. Not that I have a baby yet, but Uber wouldn't pick me up after trying 7 times (and accepted and then rejected twice). I wonder if a Black Cab would have been cheaper?

If the driver would have notified uber of the incident, I would have been billed $200+ (and the driver would have gotten half :) )
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MC on October 15, 2015, 05:29:39 PM
+1 on Windsor.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 06:00:24 PM
You need the entire rt to be in the promo period to get the bonus, right?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 06:08:28 PM
Would love to see a proposed Thursday morning-Tuesday morning itinerary doable with a 2 and 4 year old :)
What are you offering ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 06:20:45 PM
If the driver would have notified uber of the incident, I would have been billed $200+ (and the driver would have gotten half :) )
Really? I didn't know Uber has a cleaning fee, though it makes sense for all the kids and drunks that throw up in cars.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 06:23:32 PM

Really? I didn't know Uber has a cleaning fee, though it makes sense for all the kids and drunks that throw up in cars.

Yup. That's why I offered to pay. If driver then claims the fee in addition I'll tell him off for telling me to give him cash :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 06:24:14 PM
Anyone gonna be in LON on 12/24
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 06:25:40 PM
Anyone gonna be in LON on 12/24
Because of this deal, or just stam?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 06:26:50 PM

Because of this deal, or just stam?

Ok: anyone gonna be in LHR on 12/24 or 12/28? We should make a meetup thread
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 15, 2015, 06:32:37 PM
Ok: anyone gonna be in LHR on 12/24 or 12/28? We should make a meetup thread
You didn't answer my question.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 15, 2015, 06:54:39 PM
You didn't answer my question.

Ok: anyone gonna be in LHR on 12/24 or 12/28? We should make a meetup thread
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 15, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Ok: anyone gonna be in LHR on 12/24 or 12/28? We should make a meetup thread
My wife and I leaving JFK motzei shabbos 12/26 coming back 12/30
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on October 15, 2015, 08:08:50 PM

Would love to see a proposed Thursday morning-Tuesday morning itinerary doable with a 2 and 4 year old :)
So I just did a weekend in London with my wife and 2 young kids -
This is what we did (and wanted to)-  hope it helps you...

Thursday:
Changing of the guards at Buckingham palace
Walk through park to Whitehall / horse guards
London eye (Big Ben) / sea life aquarium

Friday:
Tower of London / tower bridge

Sunday:
Wax museum / harrods

With a little more time we would have went to Harry Potter - but truthfully my kids are not old enough. (Same for the dungeons )

We bought one of the packages from marvel for the London eye/wax museum/ aquarium and can also add dungeons and shreck- I think you save money this way...
 And we asked one of the workers at the fast track of the London eye of be can let us through - and he did! 
So guess it doesn't hurt to try...

We stayed at family in gg- so can't help much with hotel or restaurants
We are at maxim (dairy )- but wasn't overly impressed with it.
Actually enjoyed the homey food in hotel/restaurant in Stamford hill (forgot the name right now)

Also, was introduced to a very interesting car rental by hour company-
Check out drivenow.com.eu
May be useful for some..

We got around mostly by underground (or uber once) and was very easy to learn and use.
Also did lots of walking as we had amazing weather b"h

Had a great trip !
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 08:37:41 PM


Actually enjoyed the homey food in hotel/restaurant in Stamford hill (forgot the name right now)
There used to be a hotel/restaurant on Clapton Common (across from the Lubavitch boys school) called Kadima. Is that the one?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 15, 2015, 08:41:18 PM
Ok: anyone gonna be in LHR on 12/24 or 12/28? We should make a meetup thread
im going on 12/24
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: TimT on October 15, 2015, 08:48:04 PM
There used to be a hotel/restaurant on Clapton Common (across from the Lubavitch boys school) called Kadima. Is that the one?
They closed ? I wasn't impressed with the place at all.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 15, 2015, 10:11:50 PM
I stayed at Hyatt regency Churchill for shabbos and davened at marble arch. Hotel is pretty worn and tired. Andaz seems much nicer.
Shabbos downtown is great. Can walk around and see Buckingham palace, Hyde park, etc. Although we were without kids. I guess with kids there would be no maalah.
Ordered food from just kosher.co.uk
Food was good to my recollection. We spent about 80 euro and probably had enough food to feed 5
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 15, 2015, 10:19:21 PM
They closed ? I wasn't impressed with the place at all.
No idea, haven't paid attention to see of it was there since about 7 years ago. I wrote "used to" because I thought maybe they changed their name.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: shlonx on October 16, 2015, 01:12:04 AM
They closed ? I wasn't impressed with the place at all.

No, they're still open.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on October 16, 2015, 06:56:59 AM
They are open, and that the place I went to for some take out food that was pretty good (on take-out standards)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 18, 2015, 05:58:02 PM
Would love to see a proposed Thursday morning-Tuesday morning itinerary doable with a 2 and 4 year old :)

Just to add to previous responses...

Windsor Castle is very nice (pretty) and a lot of outdoors in and near the castle so that's good for kids. even walking through certain parts of the inside of the palace i would imagine that kids would appreciate. when there are lines to get into certain sections, go to the side to drop off your stroller and they'll probably let you straight in. You may want to do that on Thursday as Windsor is near LHR (unless you're going to LCY). not sure if it's a good idea to go on the weekend as that's when the queen is usually there - not sure if that makes a difference. Buy tickets in advance online [365tickets.co.uk]- will save you time and money if you buy in conjunction with other attractions. If you do go, it is definitely worth the extra few pounds to go see the kitchen and how they make the food etc.

Greenwich is a nice boat ride to get there and there is a kid's museum there - but you may find it boring.

GTG now, will post more later hopefully.

 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 06:10:35 PM
Debating between the Andaz and the Park Tower Knightsbridge still.

Schedule is looking pretty spartan. Maybe we should fly somewhere else for Sunday-Tuesday? AMS?
Or what should I be filling in the blanks?

Thursday: Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR. Tower of London.
Friday: Find shabbos food.
Shabbos:
Sunday: Matt's Changing of the Guards tour. London Eye.
Monday: Windsor Castle
Tuesday: Departing 10:15am from LHR.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 18, 2015, 06:20:39 PM
Debating between the Andaz and the Park Tower Knightsbridge still.

Schedule is looking pretty spartan. Maybe we should fly somewhere else for Sunday-Tuesday? AMS?
Or what should I be filling in the blanks?

Thursday: Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR. Tower of London.
Friday: Find shabbos food.
Shabbos:
Sunday: Matt's Changing of the Guards tour. London Eye.
Monday: Windsor Castle
Tuesday: Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Spending a whole day getting food? just preorder from Riech's?
You planning to be in frum neighborhood for shabbos?

Fly up to the north of the country for a day? see York?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on October 18, 2015, 06:21:49 PM
They are open, and that the place I went to for some take out food that was pretty good (on take-out standards)
You won't get anything close to USA standards in Stamford hill but there  are two restaurants/take out one is kadima on Clapton common and deli 98 on Stamford hill
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 06:23:28 PM
Spending a whole day getting food? just preorder from Riech's?
You planning to be in frum neighborhood for shabbos?

Fly up to the north of the country for a day? see York?
No, that's why I'm looking for suggestions to fill the schedule or decide if we should fly somewhere else from Sun-Tues and consolidate London into Thurs/Fri.

Is Riech the way to go for shabbos take-out?
Probably will just stay in the same hotel rather than stay in 3 hotels in 5 days.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 06:28:43 PM
No, that's why I'm looking for suggestions to fill the schedule or decide if we should fly somewhere else from Sun-Tues and consolidate London into Thurs/Fri.
Edinburgh, Scotland is pretty interesting!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 18, 2015, 06:34:00 PM
No, that's why I'm looking for suggestions to fill the schedule or decide if we should fly somewhere else from Sun-Tues and consolidate London into Thurs/Fri.

Is Riech the way to go for shabbos take-out?
Probably will just stay in the same hotel rather than stay in 3 hotels in 5 days.

I've never done a shabbos take out here, but riech's are popular and have had good food at all the kidushim that I have seen them cater.
I'd invite you for shabbos but only have a 2 BR apartment...
If there is a changing of the guards on the Sunday that you're here, there will also be on Friday - both even or odd dates... so you could change that to Friday and go to AMS, Paris, Spain Gibraltar etc for the other 2 days. Or anywhere in the north of UK.
There are lots of nice 'country side-ish' places not far from London if you rent a car for a day. Does seeing the English countryside interest you?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on October 18, 2015, 06:40:22 PM
Edinburgh, Scotland is pretty interesting!
Was going to be my suggestion. It's on my bucket list. Although I'd go in summer when it's nice. Also, Dublin.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
I'd invite you for shabbos but only have a 2 BR apartment...
Not that Dan would give up a 5* hotel stay so quickly... ;)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 06:43:49 PM
Was going to be my suggestion. It's on my bucket list. Although I'd go in summer when it's nice.
+1
Been there twice in the summer. Lots to do/see then.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 06:47:59 PM
Was going to be my suggestion. It's on my bucket list. Although I'd go in summer when it's nice. Also, Dublin.
Right, seems pointless in November.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on October 18, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
Right, seems pointless in November.
Ehh, the scotch will want you up
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
Scotch trip is going to be a DD DO, not a family trip.

Anyway, am I missing kid-friendly activities in LHR or should I seriously be considering 2 days in AMS?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 06:54:12 PM
Scotch trip is going to be a DD DO, not a family trip.
Lol. When's that gonna happen??
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 06:54:34 PM
Debating between the Andaz and the Park Tower Knightsbridge still.

Schedule is looking pretty spartan. Maybe we should fly somewhere else for Sunday-Tuesday? AMS?
Or what should I be filling in the blanks?

Thursday: Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR. Tower of London.
Friday: Find shabbos food.
Shabbos:
Sunday: Matt's Changing of the Guards tour. London Eye.
Monday: Windsor Castle
Tuesday: Departing 10:15am from LHR.



The benefit of the PTN is that it's walkable to the Marble Arch Shul on Shabbos. The Andaz isn't near any shuls.  While the PTN ultimately was a little underwhelming physically, it was a nice room and great staff. Ok, granted they did mess up royally and let our food spoil, but they did go out at 10:30pm with my grocery receipt and bought everything on the list again for us, delivering it to our room at 11:30pm. I found the location very nice. It's near Hyde Park (so you can walk around on shabbos) and Harrods (where you can look around during the week. The Tube station (Knightsbridge) is on the Piccadilly like which goes to LHR should you decided to take the tube to the hotel. Besides for a car, it's the quickest way to get from LHR to the PTN. If you take the Heathrow express to Paddington you then have to take a cab to the hotel since there are no direct trains.

Friday you can do things like the London Eye, Parliament (just look at it), possibly Harrods right near the hotel if you have time, and get food for shabbos, leaving Sunday afternoon open to do something outside of the city center.

How are you getting to Windsor Castle? If you're going that way anyway, it may be worth stopping by Stonehenge to see it, and possible Oxford of Bath. I know Golden Tours has a few day tours to all three locations leaving from Victoria Station, a quick 1 mile walk from the PTN.

Alternatively, you can do the Changing of the Guard tour on Friday (if it's available on Sunday it'll be available on Friday since it's every other day most of the year), hop over to the London Eye (and view Parliament from the Eye), find food (some places deliver for a small fee which can be super convenient for you if you don't want to schlep everyone around), and possible go to Harrods.  This way on Sunday you can go out of the city for a day (possible Greenwich).

If you wanted to skip Windsor castle, you can go up to Scotland/Ireland/York/etc for Sunday-Monday and fly back from there on Tuesday.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 18, 2015, 06:54:47 PM
The London transport museum is geared for kids (IIRC)
The science museum has a kids section.
Hamley's is a massive toy store somewhere in central London where they have many people (Israelis) demonstrating how to use many of the toys. That can be a full day trip on itself, just watching.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 06:56:36 PM
Madame Tussaud's
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 07:00:37 PM
Madame Tussaud's
You can do that in many places.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 07:04:35 PM


The benefit of the PTN is that it's walkable to the Marble Arch Shul on Shabbos. The Andaz isn't near any shuls.  While the PTN ultimately was a little underwhelming physically, it was a nice room and great staff. Ok, granted they did mess up royally and let our food spoil, but they did go out at 10:30pm with my grocery receipt and bought everything on the list again for us, delivering it to our room at 11:30pm. I found the location very nice. It's near Hyde Park (so you can walk around on shabbos) and Harrods (where you can look around during the week. The Tube station (Knightsbridge) is on the Piccadilly like which goes to LHR should you decided to take the tube to the hotel. Besides for a car, it's the quickest way to get from LHR to the PTN. If you take the Heathrow express to Paddington you then have to take a cab to the hotel since there are no direct trains.

Friday you can do things like the London Eye, Parliament (just look at it), possibly Harrods right near the hotel if you have time, and get food for shabbos, leaving Sunday afternoon open to do something outside of the city center.

How are you getting to Windsor Castle? If you're going that way anyway, it may be worth stopping by Stonehenge to see it, and possible Oxford of Bath. I know Golden Tours has a few day tours to all three locations leaving from Victoria Station, a quick 1 mile walk from the PTN.

Alternatively, you can do the Changing of the Guard tour on Friday (if it's available on Sunday it'll be available on Friday since it's every other day most of the year), hop over to the London Eye (and view Parliament from the Eye), find food (some places deliver for a small fee which can be super convenient for you if you don't want to schlep everyone around), and possible go to Harrods.  This way on Sunday you can go out of the city for a day (possible Greenwich).

If you wanted to skip Windsor castle, you can go up to Scotland/Ireland/York/etc for Sunday-Monday and fly back from there on Tuesday.

Looks like the Andaz or Park Tower to LHR is $55 with Uber, probably not worth messing with luggage and kids on a train for that.

Candle-lighting is before 4pm. Seems like I'd be hard pressed to do much of anything and still get food for shabbos. Even just the changing of the guards tour wouldn't be done until noon. Unless I got food delivered to the hotel?

Haven't looked into transportation at all, but I thought Stonehenge was a waste of time?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 07:06:46 PM
The London transport museum?
Interesting for kids?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 18, 2015, 07:08:18 PM
Interesting for kids?
I updated my post
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 07:09:29 PM
The London transport museum is geared for kids (IIRC)
The science museum has a kids section.
Hamley's is a massive toy store somewhere in central London where they have many people (Israelis) demonstrating how to use many of the toys. That can be a full day trip on itself, just watching.
Very useful, will look into these. Thanks.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 07:10:15 PM
Looks like the Andaz or Park Tower to LHR is $55 with Uber, probably not worth messing with luggage and kids on a train for that.

Candle-lighting is before 4pm. Seems like I'd be hard pressed to do much of anything and still get food for shabbos. Even just the changing of the guards tour wouldn't be done until noon. Unless I got food delivered to the hotel?
Uber might not be that expensive, but the train is super convenient (literally don't even need to walk outside the airport and the stop is 1/2 a block from the hotel) and always traffic free.  Plus it costs just ~£5 each.  You can get food delivered to the hotel (and really, why wouldn't you), and if the kids are up early you can do the London Eye first. You can really do the London Eye on Thursday also after the Tower of London. I think it would be really cool after dark, too. Parliament is right across the river so you'd be able to see that anyway.

Stonehenge is a waste of time on it's own, but it's worth seeing on the way to Windsor Castle and/or other places.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 07:10:39 PM
You can do that in many places.
They don't have the same ppl/celebs in all locations AFAIK.
Besides the London branch being the original and the oldest one around...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 07:20:13 PM
Uber might not be that expensive
Was in London very recently and purposely didn't use Uber, as I found Emes Car Service (+44 20 8211 7755) to be cheaper than the fare estimates I was getting from Uber.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 07:22:39 PM
Was in London very recently and purposely didn't use Uber, as I found Emes Car Service (+44 20 8211 7755) to be cheaper than the fare estimates I was getting from Uber.
I didn't use Uber either (successfully), though I did try.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 07:26:22 PM
I didn't use Uber either (successfully), though I did try.
To be honest I was a bit hesitant to use them as I assume most of their drivers are Muslim, especially in London...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on October 18, 2015, 07:29:35 PM
Was in London very recently and purposely didn't use Uber, as I found Emes Car Service (+44 20 8211 7755) to be cheaper than the fare estimates I was getting from Uber.
Usually theyre cheaper, there's other heimishe car services (or as known there mini cabs) as well. Only problem can be if car is not prebooked and theyre not open 24 hour's.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 07:33:15 PM
Why won't their app take a US number :P
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 07:40:58 PM
Why won't their app take a US number :P
Who? Uber? I had drivers in Rome and Paris call my US phone number without an issue.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 07:42:09 PM
Emmes
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
Emmes
They don't want to make long distance calls?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2015, 08:11:38 PM
Uber might not be that expensive, but the train is super convenient (literally don't even need to walk outside the airport and the stop is 1/2 a block from the hotel) and always traffic free.  Plus it costs just ~£5 each.  You can get food delivered to the hotel (and really, why wouldn't you), and if the kids are up early you can do the London Eye first. You can really do the London Eye on Thursday also after the Tower of London. I think it would be really cool after dark, too. Parliament is right across the river so you'd be able to see that anyway.

Stonehenge is a waste of time on it's own, but it's worth seeing on the way to Windsor Castle and/or other places.
Heathrow Express appears to be $25 one-way without 30 days advance, no?

Which places deliver to the hotel?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 18, 2015, 08:12:31 PM


To be honest I was a bit hesitant to use them as I assume most of their drivers are Asian, especially in London...

FTFY

Many hate the Muslims more than you do.
Emmes
The Heimishe companies also hire mostly Asian drivers but I hope the Heimishe boss gets a cut and I'm actually supporting Yidden.

Although the Jewish companies do have better rates between the Heimishe neighborhoods.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 18, 2015, 08:14:24 PM
Make sure to leave summer flexibility in your schedule just in case...
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=.0
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 08:26:00 PM
Heathrow Express appears to be $25 one-way without 30 days advance, no?

Which places deliver to the hotel?
The Heathrow express doesn't get you to where you want to go regardless if it costs the same as Uber for 2 people.

I don't remember the exact link to places that deliver, but I'll try to find them and post.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 18, 2015, 08:26:21 PM

FTFY

Many hate the Muslims more than you do.The Heimishe companies also hire mostly Asian drivers but I hope the Heimishe boss gets a cut and I'm actually supporting Yidden.

Although the Jewish companies do have better rates between the Heimishe neighborhoods.
Who said I hate Muslims?? ;)

My Emmes driver was Turkish.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 18, 2015, 08:28:41 PM


Which places deliver to the hotel?

Although I've never had their food, this place (http://1701kitchen.co.uk/home-delivery/) specifically advertises that they deliver to West End hotels. I can't comment on taste, but I know that their quality is great.

Other than that, you can call the local places to ask if they deliver.

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 18, 2015, 08:30:57 PM


Who said I hate Muslims?? ;)

I was thinking that. I don't have any hate for them either. Still I think many of them hate Muslims more than we do. Would that be an incorrect statement If we don't hate Muslims?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 08:37:45 PM

Although I've never had their food, this place (http://1701kitchen.co.uk/home-delivery/) specifically advertises that they deliver to West End hotels. I can't comment on taste, but I know that their quality is great.

Other than that, you can call the local places to ask if they deliver.
Well that's not the place that I found, it does look good.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on October 18, 2015, 08:42:20 PM


Hamley's is a massive toy store somewhere in central London where they have many people (Israelis) demonstrating how to use many of the toys. That can be a full day trip on itself, just watching.
Remember going there as a kid. Was awesome!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 18, 2015, 09:23:02 PM
How old are your children?

There's a fantastic new kids' place that just opened up in West London. AFAIK doesn't exist in the USA. It's indoors so perfect for the rainy English weather.

http://london.kidzania.com/en-uk/

Their website says it's for children aged 4-14 but I personally found that the some of the 4-5 year olds found it a little overwhelming. Depends on the type of child. Most of the adults loved it even more than the kids!

It's situated in the beautiful Westfield shopping mall so if any shopping is needed, there's a great selection of stores. (There used to be kosher restaurant in the mall, sadly it shut last year.)

By the way, although Kidzania London is heavily sponsored by British Airways, you have to pay cash when you "check - in"...no Avios accepted here!  :P
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 18, 2015, 09:37:20 PM
Anyone going 1/7-1/11?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on October 18, 2015, 10:35:13 PM
Does traveling to London on a tourist visa require proof of a return ticket?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 10:48:29 PM
Does traveling to London on a tourist visa require proof of a return ticket?
I don't know about all, but most nationalities of people on DDF don't need a visa to enter the UK. I was never asked to show a return ticket.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on October 18, 2015, 10:50:17 PM

I don't know about all, but most nationalities of people on DDF don't need a visa to enter the UK. I was never asked to show a return ticket.
Ok thanks. When I say tourist visa I mean as a US citizen being stamped automatically with a tourist visa. Not having to apply in advance. I have not been asked myself for proof of a return ticket in the past, just wondering if they can possibly ask to see it
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 18, 2015, 10:53:54 PM
Ok thanks. When I say tourist visa I mean as a US citizen being stamped automatically with a tourist visa. Not having to apply in advance. I have not been asked myself for proof of a return ticket in the past, just wondering if they can possibly ask to see it
They can always ask, there's no law stopping them. I don't think they will though.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 18, 2015, 11:31:31 PM
Emmes
in general, they're unreliable.
use meadway
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on October 19, 2015, 12:58:20 AM
I'd drop doing the London eye, terrible waste of time and money
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 19, 2015, 01:17:12 AM
Ok thanks. When I say tourist visa I mean as a US citizen being stamped automatically with a tourist visa. Not having to apply in advance. I have not been asked myself for proof of a return ticket in the past, just wondering if they can possibly ask to see it
They do ask sometimes. Especially if they think you may be coming for other purposes such as studying. Although it usually shouldn't be an issue.
in general, they're unreliable.
use meadway
Is that +44-20-8455-5555?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 01:26:02 AM
I'd drop doing the London eye, terrible waste of time and money
I agree, but it does offer some nice views of Parliament and the London Skyline on a clear day.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 19, 2015, 03:55:20 AM
in general, they're unreliable.
use meadway
No they're not. Obviously, due to them being based in one small area of London, if you need them immediately in a totally different area it'll take some time. However, if you book in advance or from Stamford Hill (where they are based) they are very reliable.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 19, 2015, 04:28:29 AM
Updated links in the Wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 19, 2015, 05:49:33 AM
No they're not. Obviously, due to them being based in one small area of London, if you need them immediately in a totally different area it'll take some time. However, if you book in advance or from Stamford Hill (where they are based) they are very reliable.
+1
Found them to be very reliable and efficient (with their text-back system)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2015, 08:32:49 AM
I'd drop doing the London eye, terrible waste of time and money
Lol, I'm looking for ways to fill 5 days here, not empty them out ;)

Is it really that bad at both day and night?
People said that about the Singapore Flyer, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 19, 2015, 08:38:14 AM
So I have flights booked for 12/24-1/3 i get in thursday evening. Looking for opinion on where to go in addition to London. I'm thinking Thursday though Monday in London and then Tuesday to go somewhere else. I was originally thinking Scotland but it seems like there is not much to do in the winter other than the distilleries(which I would love, my wife not so much). We have been to paris but are considering going back as we really enjoyed it. But I am still looking for any other ideas/options people have.

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 19, 2015, 08:41:52 AM
But I am still looking for any other ideas/options people have.

Thanks for the help.
Amsterdam? Bruges in Belgium is also very interesting and full of history.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ejb123 on October 19, 2015, 09:59:57 AM
Lol, I'm looking for ways to fill 5 days here, not empty them out ;)

Is it really that bad at both day and night?
People said that about the Singapore Flyer, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Hidden treat was the Museum of the City of London. Very interactive, especially for younger children and is FREE. I would suggest adding that to one of your days.

Other items not to miss:

Harry Potter Studio Tour (if you are a Harry Potter Fan)
Changing of the Guard
Churchill War Rooms (can be combined with Changing of the Guard)
Tower of London (can be combined with London Bridge and HMS Belfast)



Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on October 19, 2015, 10:01:20 AM
I also got these tickets. thanks dan! going for about a week in December and plan on going for a 2 day trip to Scotland. I am travelling with an infant (6 mos). I want to be able to go shul on Shabbos. I get in on Thursday night. should I stay at one of those hotels in GG for that time and Saturday night check into one of the London hotels? I only have Marriott and SPG, is the Park Lane Hotel a good area for both London tourism and shuls for Shabbos and during the week too?


thanks
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 19, 2015, 10:31:57 AM
Very useful, will look into these. Thanks.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, I think they're all free.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 10:38:46 AM
Lol, I'm looking for ways to fill 5 days here, not empty them out ;)

Is it really that bad at both day and night?
People said that about the Singapore Flyer, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
Everyone has different taste is what's considered fun and what's a waste of time. Based on the fact that you enjoyed the Singapore  Flyer I'd say you'd have a nice time on the London Eye. Yes, it's a 30 minute ride, but on a clear day has great views. I can't speak to the night ride since I never did it, but I imagine it'd be nice as well.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
I also got these tickets. thanks dan! going for about a week in December and plan on going for a 2 day trip to Scotland. I am travelling with an infant (6 mos). I want to be able to go shul on Shabbos. I get in on Thursday night. should I stay at one of those hotels in GG for that time and Saturday night check into one of the London hotels? I only have Marriott and SPG, is the Park Lane Hotel a good area for both London tourism and shuls for Shabbos and during the week too?


thanks
Did you read the wiki and look at a map? Park Lane is near the Marble Arch shul. Staying in GG for shabbos is really up to you.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 19, 2015, 10:58:18 AM

Lol, I'm looking for ways to fill 5 days here, not empty them out ;)

Is it really that bad at both day and night?
People said that about the Singapore Flyer, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

It's not bad at all, and with 5 days no reason not to do it. It's basically half an hour in a giant Ferris wheel Pod with views over London. It is a selfie festival.

Just know what to expect
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 19, 2015, 11:02:59 AM
I'm still deciding between
Park Tower Knightsbridge (platinum)
JW Marriott Grosvenor House (gold)
The Mayfair (to burn club Carlson points) (gold)
Intercontinental Park Lane (spire elite / platinum ambassador)

They're all walkable to Marble Arch Shul, with Grosvenor House being closest. 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on October 19, 2015, 11:23:03 AM

It's not bad at all, and with 5 days no reason not to do it. It's basically half an hour in a giant Ferris wheel Pod with views over London. It is a selfie festival.

Just know what to expect
As I said earlier- my wife and I really enjoyed the London eye
(Was even a little break from running around all day with kids)

And it's almost free if buy ticket package with wax museum/ aquarium/ shreck / dungeons -
Which can all be kid friendly (depending on your kids)   ...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 11:40:05 AM
As I said earlier- my wife and I really enjoyed the London eye
(Was even a little break from running around all day with kids)

And it's almost free if buy ticket package with wax museum/ aquarium/ shreck / dungeons -
Which can all be kid friendly (depending on your kids)   ...
I would say the dungeons are probably not appropriate for 2 and 4 year olds, though the other ones probably are.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 19, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
I had a Thursday afternoon to Monday afternoon, a drop shorter than your trip, and it was in the summer, so Friday was longer. Here was my itinerary:

Thursday (afternoon)
- Heathrow Express to Paddington, 5 minute taxi to Marriott Marble Arch. (I know that line won't really help you.)
- Lunch at Reuben's and ordered Shabbos food. (I don't recommend Reuben's. Food was expensive, and we didn't like it too much, although they delivered the Shabbos food via taxi on Friday afternoon. Included grape juice was a shaloch manos-sized bottle of Kedem. Oy.) For Shabbos food, esp. to be delivered to your hotel, you might want to consider what Ergel recommended - justkosher.co.uk)
- Harry Potter tour (Not sure if your kids are into HP or if you and DW are, but this was incredible - highlight of our LHR trip.)

Friday (This was in the summer, so I had a full day.)
- Buckingham Palace/Changing of the Guard + Whitehall Horse Guards (Worth seeing, but really only if you get there very early or with Matt's tour, which they say is great. Whitehall takes place around the same time, so it's more of an alternative if you can't make Buckingham. The horse guard does stay there afterwards, though, so you can take your kids to see a guard on a horse after Buckingham.)
- Seeing Westminster Abbey, Big Ben, Parliament, Trafalgar Square, Whitehall  (All walking distance from the Palace. Can probably do a Hop On/Hop Off bus if walking isn't fun with kids.)
- London Dungeon (Awesome experience, but not really a kids thing - probably too scary.)
It may be hard to see all this on a winter Friday, especially when you need to use 1 shower to get a whole family ready for Shabbos. If I had to guess, you'll probably get in Matt's tour and that's it.

Shabbos
Davened at Western Marble Arch Synagogue
Played cards and slept - didn't walk around because the neighborhood turned out to look a lot like the parts of Israel you wouldn't feel comfortable walking around in.

Sunday
- All day Golden Tour of Stongehenge, Windsor Castle, City of Bath (We really enjoyed this day. Stongehenge was very cool to see. Yehoshua says that it alone was not worth the trip, but we liked it, perhaps because we had the other stops. Windsor Castle was great and should be easy to see with a stroller. There's also a dollhouse collection in there that we skipped (due to long line), but your kids might like it. Bath was boring and skippable, but was part of the tour. It's a regular city with shops, so you could just walk around instead of going into the actual (boring IMHO) Roman Baths. Golden has other trips that include Stonehenge with other stops, check out their site to see if some other combination of stops interests you.)

Monday
- Tower of London (Another great activity. Walking through the rooms/palaces was fun, although will be difficult with a stroller because they have steps and are narrow at times (use a carrier, if possible), and seeing the Crown Jewels was really cool.)
- Afternoon flight out.


Random thought: It's funny how everyone is all of a sudden standing up for the London Eye. If you read through the thread and tick off every time it was was discussed with a "Yes" or "No," there are definitely more people who said to skip it, which is why I did.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 19, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
I would say the dungeons are probably not appropriate for 2 and 4 year olds, though the other ones probably are.
+1
Unless your kids are all into the gory stuff.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on October 19, 2015, 01:20:23 PM
so if I stay at Park Lane and daven at Marble Arch, what is there to do for food for Shabbos, what do people typically do?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 01:30:24 PM
so if I stay at Park Lane and daven at Marble Arch, what is there to do for food for Shabbos, what do people typically do?

- Lunch at Reuben's and ordered Shabbos food. (I don't recommend Reuben's. Food was expensive, and we didn't like it too much, although they delivered the Shabbos food via taxi on Friday afternoon. Included grape juice was a shaloch manos-sized bottle of Kedem. Oy.) For Shabbos food, esp. to be delivered to your hotel, you might want to consider what Ergel recommended - justkosher.co.uk)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2015, 01:32:22 PM
Top restaurants/bakeries to be sure to hit up?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 01:39:09 PM
Top restaurants/bakeries to be sure to hit up?
You think England is known for it's food?!  :o It's no Paris.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2015, 01:41:42 PM
Eh, Paris doesn't have much for glatt eaters.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 01:45:58 PM
Eh, Paris doesn't have much for glatt eaters.
True, but the places they do have are good, not to mention the dairy places. All I know is the friends we stayed at in London prefer the restaurants in Paris (only glatt also) to anything in London.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 19, 2015, 01:46:46 PM
Top restaurants/bakeries to be sure to hit up?
If you're going to be staying downtown, you'll be spending a lot of time travelling to GG for food. London IMO is an activity city where you live off (the surprisingly yummy) DD Sandwiches that are everywhere. It's not so k'dai to go back and forth to GG twice a day.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 19, 2015, 02:09:42 PM

Top restaurants/bakeries to be sure to hit up?

Hope that 1701 reopens by then
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 02:10:01 PM
If you're going to be staying downtown, you'll be spending a lot of time travelling to GG for food. London IMO is an activity city where you live off (the surprisingly yummy) DD Sandwiches that are everywhere. It's not so k'dai to go back and forth to GG twice a day.
+100. They have lots of different sandwiches (dairy, pareve, glatt) at many places (like at the Sainsbury's supermarket on the A4 right near the PTN) including things like egg salad, tuna, vegetables, deli, cream cheese and lox bagels, and more.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 19, 2015, 02:15:26 PM
List of where to find these sandwiches?

Would still go to places for dinner I'd imagine, no?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 19, 2015, 02:16:20 PM

List of where to find these sandwiches?

Would still go to places for dinner I'd imagine, no?

With the amount of time you have, you can definitely fit in dinner.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 02:17:40 PM
List of where to find these sandwiches?

Would still go to places for dinner I'd imagine, no?
Most Tesco and Sainsbury stores in London. For the full list, look here  (http://www.hermolis.com/sandwiches.php)and here (http://www.koshersandwiches.co.uk/). The app Kosher Near Me is very helpful at finding the closest location to where you are.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
With the amount of time you have, you can definitely fit in dinner.
True, but don't expect too much from the food.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 19, 2015, 02:18:00 PM
Top restaurants/bakeries to be sure to hit up?
I'm not a big food guy but perhaps Grodzinsky's bakery?
There are like 5/6 of them around the city, mainly in the frum areas. They aren't all owned by the same people but apparently they're all pretty good.

And as people have already mentioned, DDs sandwiches, made by Hermolis are available in many non Heimishe areas as well.
Title: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 19, 2015, 02:18:36 PM
There's also the 1701 takeout in Selfridges

http://1701dev.hypedev3.co.uk/selfridges/ (http://1701dev.hypedev3.co.uk/selfridges/)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 19, 2015, 03:20:30 PM
List of where to find these sandwiches?

Would still go to places for dinner I'd imagine, no?
Yeah, but be prepared for it to be expensive and time consuming (just to get there).
It's like being in Manhattan and eating in the Five towns.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 19, 2015, 03:24:15 PM
List of where to find these sandwiches?

Would still go to places for dinner I'd imagine, no?
There's a link in the wiki
There's also the 1701 takeout in Selfridges

http://1701dev.hypedev3.co.uk/selfridges/ (http://1701dev.hypedev3.co.uk/selfridges/)
Link to this as well.

London isn't renowned for it's food and rightly so. You won't find anything on par with NY, LA or Paris. There are however some decent places. La Fiesta in GG has some decent meat, Kaifeng has good chinese and Isola Bella has decent milchig. Don't miss Pizaza either. For a nice night out, try Bevis Marks followed by drinks at the Shard (min £25 spend pp and find a babysitter).

When in November are you planning to come?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on October 19, 2015, 03:44:49 PM
firstly kudos to chaim'l & Co for the fantastic wiki,

Just an FYI, I know Dan isn't a fan of these passes but I got great value from a 3 day London Pass, certainly worth looking into

Also for those that would go to the London Dungeons, I found the London Bridge Experience to be much much better
 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on October 19, 2015, 04:18:27 PM
hey what does everyone do for phones? unlocked smartphone with SIM rental, similar to Israel
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on October 19, 2015, 04:23:02 PM
hey what does everyone do for phones? unlocked smartphone with SIM rental, similar to Israel

sorry didn't realize there was a thread already for these types of questions http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2051.0
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: luckyluck on October 19, 2015, 06:01:47 PM
What about Beit Hamadras http://www.beithamadras.co.uk/ ?
Is it Glatt?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 19, 2015, 06:12:34 PM
hey what does everyone do for phones? unlocked smartphone with SIM rental, similar to Israel
Look into GiffGaff
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 19, 2015, 06:17:19 PM
The Shard is a must (if you're without kids)
Went there in the evening for a drink and took pics of the magnificent views of the London city skyline and the Thames.
It is the tallest building in the UK at 1,014 ft (309m) and was opened to the public in February 2013
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 19, 2015, 06:18:03 PM
Look into GiffGaff
I might have a couple of sims to spare. PM
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 20, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
Isola Bella has decent milchig. Don't miss Pizaza either.


Isola Bella is very good, Pizzaza is opposite Isola Bella.
Also, Kanteen in Brent Cross shopping center is decent. I think they have a branch in Hendon too
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 20, 2015, 09:25:44 AM
Oh, and I forgot to mention, I think they're all free.

In general in London all good tourist attractions are either very expensive or free... :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on October 20, 2015, 01:30:39 PM

Most Tesco and Sainsbury stores in London. For the full list, look here  (http://www.hermolis.com/sandwiches.php)and here (http://www.koshersandwiches.co.uk/). The app Kosher Near Me is very helpful at finding the closest location to where you are.
Will just say that when I was there I could not find any on these dd sandwiches- and was pretty stuck without lunch because of it

It was the week after succos- but I don't see why that should be so hard on them...

(And my cousin who lives there said she's heard good things about them- but also was never around  when she needed it)
Just saying to maybe have some bakery goods with you as back up , or call them to make sure they delivered that day...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 20, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Will just say that when I was there I could not find any on these dd sandwiches- and was pretty stuck without lunch because of it

It was the week after succos- but I don't see why that should be so hard on them...

(And my cousin who lives there said she's heard good things about them- but also was never around  when she needed it)
Just saying to maybe have some bakery goods with you as back up , or call them to make sure they delivered that day...
Weird. When I was there in July and January/February I found them at no fewer than 3 different locations.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 20, 2015, 02:15:57 PM
It probably depends on what you were expecting. If you're expecting them to be "literally everywhere", you may be disappointed. Although considering the ultra orthodox population of Central London, they are rather common.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 20, 2015, 02:27:05 PM
It probably depends on what you were expecting. If you're expecting them to be "literally everywhere", you may be disappointed. Although considering the ultra orthodox population of Central London, they are rather common.
I never said they were literally everywhere, rather they were at most Tesco and Sainsbury locations in Central London. I also linked to the website and app what proves this to be true.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 20, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
Is there a shul in the LHR airport?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 20, 2015, 03:28:14 PM
Is there a shul in the LHR airport?
I doubt it. Only JFK and TLV have shuls to the best of my knowledge.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on October 20, 2015, 03:31:02 PM

It probably depends on what you were expecting. If you're expecting them to be "literally everywhere", you may be disappointed. Although considering the ultra orthodox population of Central London, they are rather common.
I used the link in wiki to find their locations- and even called up those locations and verified they carry them, just that they didn't get any that week...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 20, 2015, 03:33:27 PM
I used the link in wiki to find their locations- and even called up those locations and verified they carry them, just that they didn't get any that week...
That's another question entirely. The locations I asked in person said they get restocked daily.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 20, 2015, 04:00:51 PM
Just want to remind everyone going to London to make sure to get oyster cards
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 20, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
Just want to remind everyone going to London to make sure to get oyster cards
...when you take the Tube for the first time. No need to buy in advance.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 20, 2015, 05:41:29 PM
Is there a shul in the LHR airport?
There used to be a multi faith prayer room just outside the terminal. I imagine it's still there.
I'm sure Rabbi Hershi Vogel, the airports Jewish chaplain would be more than happy to advise you on that.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 20, 2015, 07:50:55 PM
There used to be a multi faith prayer room just outside the terminal. I imagine it's still there.
I'm sure Rabbi Hershi Vogel, the airports Jewish chaplain would be more than happy to advise you on that.
Do u have rabbi vogels info?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 21, 2015, 12:22:13 AM
Do u have rabbi vogels info?
hvoge@aol.com
he just married off his son yesterday
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 21, 2015, 12:25:33 AM
Lol, I'm looking for ways to fill 5 days here, not empty them out ;)

Is it really that bad at both day and night?
People said that about the Singapore Flyer, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.
London eye if good, is only good ON A CLEAR DAY. not with low cloud cover, which is common in london. so its a day by day thing YMMV
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 21, 2015, 12:30:54 AM
another cheap tourist attraction which isn't mentioned is the emirates air-line and flight simulator. basically a cable car over the river.
you can get a decent package deal with that and a riverboat there together.
must see areas are covent garden, walk along the thames, walk down whitehall, hit up camden town (just not with children!)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 12:36:42 AM
another cheap tourist attraction which isn't mentioned is the emirates air-line and flight simulator. basically a cable car over the river.
you can get a decent package deal with that and a riverboat there together.
must see areas are covent garden, walk along the thames, walk down whitehall, hit up camden town (just not with children!)
While we didn't have time to go on the Emirates Air-Line (though I thought it looked cool!) we did go to Covent Garden (which is basically just a whole bunch of shops). I didn't really see why people were making such a big fuss about it. It was nice though.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 21, 2015, 04:52:33 AM
...when you take the Tube for the first time. No need to buy in advance.
Correct.
Unless you plan on taking a bus before using the tube.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 21, 2015, 09:39:47 AM
I doubt it. Only JFK and TLV have shuls to the best of my knowledge.
-1
Brussels airport has a fully loaded bes medrash (Aron kodesh, sefarim etc...)
And I'm sure there are more...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on October 21, 2015, 11:16:02 AM
is there an eruv in London can one walk to Buckingham palace on Shabbos from the marble arch synagogue?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 21, 2015, 11:30:34 AM
is there an eruv in London can one walk to Buckingham palace on Shabbos from the marble arch synagogue?
There's is no eruv (some Jewish areas have one however).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on October 21, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
hvoge@aol.com
he just married off his son yesterday
Thanks. Mazel Tov.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on October 21, 2015, 02:44:19 PM
There's is no eruv (some Jewish areas have one however).
Yup, specifically golders green & hendon
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 21, 2015, 03:42:20 PM
Yup, specifically golders green & hendon
All your LOR where's you should be using them. Many will tell you not to.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on October 21, 2015, 05:11:02 PM
All your LOR where's you should be using them. Many will tell you not to.
a bunch of nonsensical politics, its been paskened time after time by the rabonnim who actually live there & aren't effected by politics that the eiruv is 100%  kosher
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 21, 2015, 06:26:45 PM
a bunch of nonsensical politics, its been paskened time after time by the rabonnim who actually live there & aren't effected by politics that the eiruv is 100%  kosher
Is that so?
I beg to differ.
But how about we each leave our own opinions aside and allow each and every one to ask their respective LOR like I suggested.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on October 21, 2015, 06:55:08 PM
Is that so?
I beg to differ.
But how about we each leave our own opinions aside and allow each and every one to ask their respective LOR like I suggested.

MeirS, I hate to argue with you but I think you may be a little behind on many details of the GG eruv. Most of the Lubavitch community don't use it as they wouldn't use most city eruvin. However beyond that it has become extremely evident over the years that any Rov  who is against it, is against it solely for political reasons. I have spoken to numerous people and rabonim from various communities in NW London and this is the clear consensus of all of them. [This was not the case when the eruv was originally made, but since then many, many corrections have been made].

p.s. of course everyone should ask their rov.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 22, 2015, 07:52:06 PM
So it turns out that Matt is unavailable on the one day i can do the Chamging of the Guard tour as its his birthday.  :( Any other changing of the guard tours that can be recommended?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on October 23, 2015, 10:40:29 AM
So it turns out that Matt is unavailable on the one day i can do the Chamging of the Guard tour as its his birthday.  :( Any other changing of the guard tours that can be recommended?
We did the Fun London Changing of the Guard tour last summer -- IIRC, we had the other guy, not Matt. Maybe it was Jess? Regardless, he was and it was great.  He knew how to get us to the good spots to see stuff and not get caught behind masses. Interesting talking points, funny, engaging.  I would recommend it. (And if I ever get around to finishing my TR, you'll see some stuff!)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: 1050BU on October 23, 2015, 11:20:06 AM
Recommendations for restaurants for Saturday night and Sunday brunch?

I'm staying at the HR Churchill.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 23, 2015, 11:25:44 AM
Some homework while your there
Supposedly all different underground stations.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 23, 2015, 11:39:50 AM
Some homework while your there
Supposedly all different underground stations.

I can't figure out the last two
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 23, 2015, 04:51:24 PM
We did the Fun London Changing of the Guard tour last summer -- IIRC, we had the other guy, not Matt. Maybe it was Jess? Regardless, he was and it was great.  He knew how to get us to the good spots to see stuff and not get caught behind masses. Interesting talking points, funny, engaging.  I would recommend it. (And if I ever get around to finishing my TR, you'll see some stuff!)
Thanks, but his company doesnt offer tours on the one day that I can make it. Its his 40th Birthday and he's not working (i.e. getting hammered is what I got out of the email he sent me). The irony is that I'm treating my wife to this trip for HER 40th Birthday as a surprise.

So I guess my search continues... :( :( :( 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on October 23, 2015, 04:59:10 PM
OH my. Another surprise-the-wife TR on the way!  There was another company doing tours (actually many companies), but our guy (Matt or Jess) seemed to be chummy with one of them. You could ask matt for a recommendation.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on October 23, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
Gotta say, too, IMHO changing of the guard was good and something you have to do once, but it is not over-the-top amazing.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 23, 2015, 05:06:18 PM
Gotta say, too, IMHO changing of the guard was good and something you have to do once, but it is not over-the-top amazing.
Got to work out the details of the surprise yet. Have the tickets, have an idea what hotel, itinerary in the planning stages. Doing 3 full days and 2 nights. Sunday morning arrival to Tuesday evening departure. 

If I'm doing it, I want to do it right.

Look at that, first Boston, now London. You are now my official "go to" guy for trip planning.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on October 24, 2015, 09:08:57 PM
hey does anyone know who gives the hashgacha for the shabbos meals for the holiday inn express at Golder's Green?

http://www.totallyjewishtravel.com/vacations/kosher_hotels_and_resorts/kosher-hotel-london-holiday-inn-express-london-golders-green-uk
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on October 24, 2015, 09:18:27 PM
hey does anyone know who gives the hashgacha for the shabbos meals for the holiday inn express at Golder's Green?

http://www.totallyjewishtravel.com/vacations/kosher_hotels_and_resorts/kosher-hotel-london-holiday-inn-express-london-golders-green-uk
where in that link does it mention shabbos meals?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2015, 09:24:29 PM
What's with the various hashgochas? Any of them allow non-glatt meat?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on October 24, 2015, 09:25:15 PM
in the bold right above where it says "hotel rooms and facilities" 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 24, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
What's with the various hashgochas? Any of them allow non-glatt meat?
Paging eliraps

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 24, 2015, 09:30:12 PM

Cool! Too bad it wasn't around this past summer.  Here's hoping it goes on tour in the US.

That's what Friday's AA availability glut is for! Summer trips...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 24, 2015, 10:48:57 PM
That's what Friday's AA availability glut is for! Summer trips...
True. Looking into it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 24, 2015, 10:53:44 PM
What's with the various hashgochas? Any of them allow non-glatt meat?

Officially not, but charedim avoid sefardic kashrus authority. many Lubavitchers only eat kedassia for meat. but judging by your many trip reports, your not makpid on lubavitch scheitah, so basically stick to kedassia, federation, or bais din (KLBD)
if you do decide to eat at ruebens or bevis marks, ask to talk to the mashgiach first, the results may surprise you! 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on October 24, 2015, 11:21:15 PM

Got to work out the details of the surprise yet. Have the tickets, have an idea what hotel, itinerary in the planning stages. Doing 3 full days and 2 nights. Sunday morning arrival to Tuesday evening departure. 

If I'm doing it, I want to do it right.

Look at that, first Boston, now London. You are now my official "go to" guy for trip planning.

We absolutely loved Hyatt Regency Churchill. The Beatles show (Let It Be) was amazing, and I'm the kind of guy who generally can't stand any kind of show.  If you like history, Churchill War Room is a must. Could have spent hours there.  Do you want to borrow my Oyster cards? I had to pay $5 deposit on each and would have returned them for deposit, expert the Tube was (in)conveniently on strike our last day in London. PM me if you want to borrow and I can mail to you.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 25, 2015, 06:37:40 AM
Officially not, but charedim avoid sefardic kashrus authority. many Lubavitchers only eat kedassia for meat. but judging by your many trip reports, your not makpid on lubavitch scheitah, so basically stick to kedassia, federation, or bais din (KLBD)
if you do decide to eat at ruebens or bevis marks, ask to talk to the mashgiach first, the results may surprise you!
Bevis Marks is also under LBD. According to the (chasidishe) mashgiach, the meat is usually Kedassia.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: 1050BU on October 25, 2015, 03:28:11 PM
Is there a general day DD would deliver more sandwiches to a store or is it just when a store requests them
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 03:50:56 PM
Is there a general day DD would deliver more sandwiches to a store or is it just when a store requests them
I think they deliver Sun-Fri, though in the winter I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't make a delivery on Friday. Their sandwiches only have a shelf life of about 2 days, so even if they don't run out a store will need to replace them since they are expired.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 25, 2015, 03:53:15 PM
if you do decide to eat at ruebens or bevis marks, ask to talk to the mashgiach first, the results may surprise you! 
Namely?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 26, 2015, 12:39:49 AM
Namely?
can't comment for bevis marks, just my personal experience at rubens (which is under the same hasgocha as bevis marks) upon meeting the mashgiach, was that he was someone no sane fellow would trust.
maybe thats changed, just do your homework
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 26, 2015, 12:40:15 AM
Bevis Marks is also under LBD. According to the (chasidishe) mashgiach, the meat is usually Kedassia.
thats new, then I take back what i said
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2015, 08:50:39 PM
From the Wiki,
"-If you plan on using public transportation, get an Oyster card. They are much cheaper and easier to use than conventional travel cards, and never expire. They can be bought in many stores in London, or online (http://visitorshop.tfl.gov.uk/oystercard/product/oyster-card.html). These days one can use contactless credit cards instead of Oyster.(Check here (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless/what-is-contactless?intcmp=8610#on-this-page-1) to see if your foreign contactless card will work.)"

The foreign cards link doesn't work. Updated link or info?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 27, 2015, 08:59:41 PM
From the Wiki,
"-If you plan on using public transportation, get an Oyster card. They are much cheaper and easier to use than conventional travel cards, and never expire. They can be bought in many stores in London, or online (http://visitorshop.tfl.gov.uk/oystercard/product/oyster-card.html). These days one can use contactless credit cards instead of Oyster.(Check here (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless/what-is-contactless?intcmp=8610#on-this-page-1) to see if your foreign contactless card will work.)"

The foreign cards link doesn't work. Updated link or info?
No need to order online. You can pick up from any kiosk at any tube and some national rail stations.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2015, 09:00:55 PM
Why do you need to pick one up if you can use a contactless credit card?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 27, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Why do you need to pick one up if you can use a contactless credit card?
£5 free with Oyster.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2015, 09:15:25 PM
Still debating pros/cons of the Park Tower, Andaz, and Hyatt Regency. Nobody here has stayed at the Andaz?

Would love to hear feedback. Traveling with Rafi (4) and Talia (2).

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Do I try to go straight to Windsor Castle? Use an Uber to bring luggage to hotel? Checkin to hotel and then shlep back out to Windsor Castle later in the day?

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge/London bridge.

Shabbos:


Sunday:

Matt's Changing of the Guards tour (Whitehall Horse Guards?)
Hamleys or Herrods?
London transport museum or Museum of London or Science Museum?
London Eye.

Monday:

Harry Potter

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Seems like I'll punt on Churchill War Rooms, London Dungeon, and Stonehenge as they're not great for kids.

Kidzania seems neat, not sure if my kids are too young though?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 27, 2015, 10:22:14 PM
Seems crazy to get off a plane and go straight to an activity.
I guess that'll depend on
1. How your kids fly
2. Will your hotel room be ready that early in the morning

I'd play it by ear and decide based on how your feeling
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 27, 2015, 10:25:38 PM
Seems crazy to get off a plane and go straight to an activity.
I guess that'll depend on
1. How your kids fly
2. Will your hotel room be ready that early in the morning

I'd play it by ear and decide based on how your feeling
+1. Also have backup indoor activities planned. London can be rainy (any time of the year) so spending time outside may not be something you want to do if it's cold and rainy.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 27, 2015, 10:54:14 PM

Still debating pros/cons of the Park Tower, Andaz, and Hyatt Regency. Nobody here has stayed at the Andaz?

Would love to hear feedback. Traveling with Rafi (4) and Talia (2).

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Do I try to go straight to Windsor Castle? Use an Uber to bring luggage to hotel? Checkin to hotel and then shlep back out to Windsor Castle later in the day?

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge/London bridge.

Shabbos:


Sunday:

Matt's Changing of the Guards tour (Whitehall Horse Guards?)
Hamleys or Herrods?
London transport museum or Museum of London or Science Museum?
London Eye.

Monday:

Harry Potter

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Seems like I'll punt on Churchill War Rooms, London Dungeon, and Stonehenge as they're not great for kids.

Kidzania seems neat, not sure if my kids are too young though?

My brother in law just stayed at Andaz. He said "Went to eat at 6pm, long bus ride got there 7pm tons of traffic. I think 2 trains would've been better. Train back to andaz was great. I think staying in West London instead of East is better if you'll be going to golders green"
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2015, 10:55:23 PM
I don't get it. GMaps says Andaz to GG is a single 20 minute train.
Closer than the west end hotels.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2015, 10:57:32 PM
Seems crazy to get off a plane and go straight to an activity.
I guess that'll depend on
1. How your kids fly
2. Will your hotel room be ready that early in the morning

I'd play it by ear and decide based on how your feeling
Right, just seems crazy to leave LHR just to come right back.
Especially because the hotel room probably won't be ready.

But good chance we won't want to do an activity right after landing. Hmm.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 27, 2015, 10:58:49 PM

I don't get it. GMaps says Andaz to GG is a single 20 minute train.
Closer than the west end hotels.

I'll ask what he meant. He's still away let's see when he answers.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on October 27, 2015, 11:05:10 PM
Any chance at a London DO?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 27, 2015, 11:12:43 PM
Right, just seems crazy to leave LHR just to come right back.
Especially because the hotel room probably won't be ready.

But good chance we won't want to do an activity right after landing. Hmm.
If hotel won't be ready what choice do you have? Will kids be any better going to eat?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mendy613 on October 27, 2015, 11:47:03 PM
Any chance at a London DO?

Were going this coming week... ;)
Actually, first doing Paris for three nights and then next Shabbos in London
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on October 27, 2015, 11:47:42 PM
Dan, when are you coming?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 28, 2015, 04:34:33 AM
From the Wiki,
"-If you plan on using public transportation, get an Oyster card. They are much cheaper and easier to use than conventional travel cards, and never expire. They can be bought in many stores in London, or online (http://visitorshop.tfl.gov.uk/oystercard/product/oyster-card.html). These days one can use contactless credit cards instead of Oyster.(Check here (http://www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless/what-is-contactless?intcmp=8610#on-this-page-1) to see if your foreign contactless card will work.)"

The foreign cards link doesn't work. Updated link or info?

Here's the updated link - https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless/what-are-contactless-payment-cards?intcmp=8610#on-this-page-1 (https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless/what-are-contactless-payment-cards?intcmp=8610#on-this-page-1).

I've updated the wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 28, 2015, 04:37:51 AM
My brother in law just stayed at Andaz. He said "Went to eat at 6pm, long bus ride got there 7pm tons of traffic. I think 2 trains would've been better. Train back to andaz was great. I think staying in West London instead of East is better if you'll be going to golders green"

Traffic in the West End is a fact of life. Trains would've been the smarter choice.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on October 28, 2015, 07:12:02 AM
I have a 5.5 hours connection in LHR. Is it possible to go into the city and see something (and not miss my connecting flight)?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 28, 2015, 08:51:33 AM
Windsor castle would be the only shot, but keep in mind that walks inside LHR can be as long as 20+ minutes
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 28, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Still debating pros/cons of the Park Tower, Andaz, and Hyatt Regency. Nobody here has stayed at the Andaz?

Would love to hear feedback. Traveling with Rafi (4) and Talia (2).

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Do I try to go straight to Windsor Castle? Use an Uber to bring luggage to hotel? Checkin to hotel and then shlep back out to Windsor Castle later in the day?

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge/London bridge.

Shabbos:


Sunday:

Matt's Changing of the Guards tour (Whitehall Horse Guards?)
Hamleys or Herrods?
London transport museum or Museum of London or Science Museum?
London Eye.

Monday:

Harry Potter

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Seems like I'll punt on Churchill War Rooms, London Dungeon, and Stonehenge as they're not great for kids.

Kidzania seems neat, not sure if my kids are too young though?
Hyatt Regency is under construction, but open per their website. That should be an easy choice to avoid. I'm debating between the Andaz and the Park Tower myself. For me its the difference between SPG that I cannot presently replace vs UR that I can. 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on October 28, 2015, 11:44:00 AM
I have a 5.5 hours connection in LHR. Is it possible to go into the city and see something (and not miss my connecting flight)?
I wouldn't risk it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 11:45:05 AM
I wouldn't risk it.
+1. I'd say that's not quite enough time.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 28, 2015, 01:18:01 PM
I don't get it. GMaps says Andaz to GG is a single 20 minute train.
Closer than the west end hotels.

35-40 minutes travel to GG.

Andaz was great but far from a lot of things. The shul near Andaz is a 10 minute walk, doesn't always have a minyan during the week.

He says better to stay near Buckingham Palace.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: nussenmenachem on October 28, 2015, 01:38:51 PM
Dan, You haven't mentioned where you plan on eating out. I have seen in the last 60 pages here that one thing is for sure. There is NO food in London. What are your plans?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 01:42:01 PM
Dan, You haven't mentioned where you plan on eating out. I have seen in the last 60 pages here that one thing is for sure. There is NO food in London. What are your plans?
Still waiting for recs.
All that's been posted so far is Isola Bella, Pizzaza, and Bevis Marks.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 28, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
Comments in red.

Still debating pros/cons of the Park Tower, Andaz, and Hyatt Regency. Nobody here has stayed at the Andaz?

Would love to hear feedback. Traveling with Rafi (4) and Talia (2).

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Do I try to go straight to Windsor Castle? Use an Uber to bring luggage to hotel? Checkin to hotel and then shlep back out to Windsor Castle later in the day?
I can't imagine it's easy to go to the Castle with luggage and straight off the plane. While it's out of the way to settle into the hotel, it shouldn't deter you from taking a minute to settle in. Once you're in the city, you could also get a tour bus so that you don't need to worry about how to get their on your own.

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge/London bridge.
London Bridge is in America. Tower Bridge is the one right next to the Tower of London. Good Friday activity choice.

Shabbos:


Sunday:

Matt's Changing of the Guards tour (Whitehall Horse Guards?)
Hamleys or Herrods?
London transport museum or Museum of London or Science Museum?
London Eye.
Changing of the Guards is pretty late in the morning (unfortunately), so keep that in mind with how much you plan to accomplish that day. IINM Whitehall takes place at the same time, so you can't see both in 1 day, but you can walk to Whitehall afterwards to see the horseguards that stick around afterwards. Don't know anything about the other items on the list.


Monday:

Harry Potter
Amazing activity. Hope you enjoy!

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Seems like I'll punt on Churchill War Rooms, London Dungeon, and Stonehenge as they're not great for kids.

Kidzania seems neat, not sure if my kids are too young though?
Good point about these items not being great for kids.
Looks like you did a nice job figuring out how to fill your 5 days.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 01:55:17 PM
London Bridge is in America.
(https://i.gyazo.com/a98cfcf7aa8a046b4b82574ad4a3f7a0.png)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 01:59:56 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/a98cfcf7aa8a046b4b82574ad4a3f7a0.png)
It's there, just not exciting. Tower bridge is the more popular one.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 02:01:02 PM
It's there, just not exciting. Tower bridge is the more popular one.
Thanks.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 02:03:16 PM
Comments in red.
Thanks.
I guess we'll go drop off our stuff and try to get a hotel room after landing.


Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 02:04:43 PM
Thanks.
I guess we'll go drop off our stuff and try to get a hotel room after landing.
A great idea, as is taking a tour bus.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 02:08:40 PM
Updated itin. Would love thoughts on the best Sunday afternoon option considering we have a 2 and 4 year old.

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Checkin to Park Tower, Andaz, or Hyatt Regency.
Windsor Castle.
Dinner at ?

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge.
Shabbos food delivery from justkosher  (http://justkosher.co.uk)and/or 1701 (http://1701kitchen.co.uk/home-delivery/).

Motzei Shabbos:
Hamleys or Herrods?
Dinner at ?

Sunday:
Matt's Changing of the Guards tour/end of Whitehall Horse Guards
London transport museum or Museum of London or Science Museum or or Kidzania?
London Eye at dusk.
Dinner at ?

Monday:
Harry Potter
Dinner at ?

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Seems like I'll punt on Churchill War Rooms, London Dungeon, and Stonehenge as they're not great for kids.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 02:17:56 PM
Updated itin. Would love thoughts on the best Sunday afternoon option.

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Checkin to Park Tower, Andaz, or Hyatt Regency.
Windsor Castle.
Dinner at ?
Assuming you take a late morning/early afternoon tour, you'll be back quite late (6-8p) so it may be easier to get DDs for dinner.

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge.
Shabbos food delivery from justkosher  (http://justkosher.co.uk)and/or 1701 (http://1701kitchen.co.uk/home-delivery/).

Motzei Shabbos:
Hamleys or Herrods?
Dinner at ?
Good idea going to Harrods at night. Shabbos ends early enough. If you want, there's a Sainsburys accross the street from Harrods open until 11:30p that has DD sandwiches.

Sunday:
Matt's Changing of the Guards tour/end of Whitehall Horse Guards
London transport museum or Museum of London or Science Museum or or Kidzania?
London Eye at dusk.
Dinner at ?

Monday:
Harry Potter
Dinner at ?0
HP is an all day event. If you're going with a tour you will be dropped off in London, but if you drive yourself you drive right through Hendon and pass some kosher restaurants that are literally on the same road. May be a consideration if you really want to go out to eat and don't want to backtrack, but it's not the cheapest option for sure.

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Seems like I'll punt on Churchill War Rooms, London Dungeon, and Stonehenge as they're not great for kids.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: stevendre on October 28, 2015, 02:40:55 PM
Still waiting for recs.
All that's been posted so far is Isola Bella, Pizzaza, and Bevis Marks.
I've been to la fiesta a couple of times.  Always enjoyed their food.  Mostly remember their meats and lamb. And they serve it on a bed of coals.  Really neat.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 28, 2015, 02:59:38 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/a98cfcf7aa8a046b4b82574ad4a3f7a0.png)

London Bridge is Falling Down... all the way to Arizona.
http://www.citylab.com/design/2013/10/how-original-london-bridge-ended-arizona/7200/

(http://i.imgur.com/pNdLKJ8.png)

The London Bridge you see in the map is just a boring crossing (see: Google Images). As Yehoshua said, Tower Bridge is the one people go to see. I was given this history lesson in a more harsh way by my history-buff uncle last summer.  :-[
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 03:00:55 PM
London Bridge is Falling Down... all the way to Arizona.
http://www.citylab.com/design/2013/10/how-original-london-bridge-ended-arizona/7200/

(http://i.imgur.com/pNdLKJ8.png)

The London Bridge you see in the map is just a boring crossing (see: Google Images). As Yehoshua said, Tower Bridge is the one people go to see. I was given this history lesson in a more harsh way by my history-buff uncle last summer.  :-[
True. FWIW I went to see the one in AZ. Not nearly as exciting as Tower Bridge is.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 28, 2015, 03:02:12 PM
True. FWIW I went to see the one in AZ. Not nearly as exciting as Tower Bridge is.
Which isn't all that exciting in its own right lol.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 03:05:32 PM
Which isn't all that exciting in its own right lol.
True. The only thing cool about it is seeing a piece of British history in the middle of the Arizona desert, in a town with less than 53k people.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 28, 2015, 03:11:08 PM
True. The only thing cool about it is seeing a piece of British history in the middle of the Arizona desert, in a town with less than 53k people.
I meant Tower Bridge.  ;D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 03:13:26 PM
I meant Tower Bridge.  ;D
Oh, but at least it looks unique, and you can climb it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
What's with Zest under the SKA?
Are they cholov yisroel?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 28, 2015, 04:42:24 PM
What's with Zest under the SKA?
Are they cholov yisroel?
A Rov in London told me that he wouldn't go near SKA even with a 10 foot pole.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 04:45:22 PM
A Rov in London told me that he wouldn't go near SKA even with a 10 foot pole.
Kashrus or political?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 28, 2015, 04:48:53 PM
Kashrus or political?
Kashrus.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hidden on October 28, 2015, 04:49:01 PM
A Rov in London told me that he wouldn't go near SKA even with a 10 foot pole.
Who is ska?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 28, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
Who is ska?
Sephardi Kashrus Authority. They're not very big.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 04:50:10 PM
Kashrus.
So people don't eat at Reuben's then as well?
Wiki needs more disclaimers if that's the case...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 28, 2015, 04:59:56 PM
So people don't eat at Reuben's then as well?
Wiki needs more disclaimers if that's the case...
I was under the impression that Ruebens had a different Hechsher. It could be things changed. I'll try get more clarity on this one.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 05:04:12 PM
I was under the impression that Ruebens had a different Hechsher. It could be things changed. I'll try get more clarity on this one.
Not according to their website or the Wiki.
Thanks.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 28, 2015, 05:04:53 PM
Not according to their website or the Wiki.
Thanks.
I see that. I'm trying to get clarity from my friends in London.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 05:05:30 PM
I see that. I'm trying to get clarity from my friends in London.
While you're at it, what else is worth going to for dinner :D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 28, 2015, 05:13:06 PM
A Rov in London told me that he wouldn't go near SKA even with a 10 foot pole.
For now I will rescind my previous statement while I try to find out.
So people don't eat at Reuben's then as well?
Wiki needs more disclaimers if that's the case...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on October 28, 2015, 06:00:26 PM
Updated itin. Would love thoughts on the best Sunday afternoon option considering we have a 2 and 4 year old.

Motzei Shabbos:
Hamleys or Herrods?
Haven't been to Herrods, but considering you'll be there with 2 kids, I think Hamleys is an easy choice.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
Haven't been to Herrods, but considering you'll be there with 2 kids, I think Hamleys is an easy choice.
Good point. You can do Hamley's, put the kids to sleep and get a sitter, and then see Harrods yourselves.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 07:24:36 PM
Good point. You can do Hamley's, put the kids to sleep and get a sitter, and then see Harrods yourselves.
Where am I getting a sitter from?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
Where am I getting a sitter from?
Either the hotel or perhaps a someone knows someone in London who would be willing to come over.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
Itin v1.2

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Checkin to Park Tower, Andaz, or Hyatt Regency.
Windsor Castle.
Dinner at ?

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge.
Shabbos food delivery from justkosher  (http://justkosher.co.uk)and/or 1701 (http://1701kitchen.co.uk/home-delivery/).

Motzei Shabbos:
Hamleys
Dinner at ?

Sunday:
Matt's Changing of the Guards tour/end of Whitehall Horse Guards
London transport museum
London Eye at dusk.
Dinner at ?

Monday:
Harry Potter
Dinner at ?

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Alternates/If time allows:
Herrod's
Double-decker bus tour
Museum of London
Science Museum
Kidzania.

Nice looking activities that are probably not a good idea with small kids:
Churchill War Rooms
London Dungeon
The Shard
Stonehenge

Recommended restaurants by DDFers:
DD Sandwiches for lunch. (http://www.ddsandwiches.com/retail.htm)
Meat:
Bevis Marks
La Fiesta
Kaifeng
Reubens
Milk:
Zest
Isola Bella
Pizaza
Caffeine
SoYo

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 28, 2015, 08:01:05 PM
Agree, Hamleys is definitely more kid-friendly than Harrods, although Harrods is also a nice experience, especially during the winter season.

With regard to Kidzania, definitely not much for your 2 year old to do there, but if she's the type to stay happily in her stroller and be wheeled around, and your four year old is into cars, fire trucks and planes, (which little boy isn't?)could be an enjoyable indoor option - for example they get to ride in a kid sized fire truck and put out fires, get "trained" as pilots etc. Our little ones wanted to do the fireman option again and again!

Isola Bella is a nice option for dinner. There's also White House express, a meaty take-away/sit down which apparently also has great food (across street from Isola Belle- same ownership I believe). Both tend to be quite full in the evenings.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 28, 2015, 08:03:04 PM
How did you decide on the transport museum?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 28, 2015, 08:05:07 PM
Just wanted to add that Isola Bella packs and prepares food for take-out, so if you're too exhausted after Windor Castle to shlep to Golders Green for dinner, it might be possible to get a minicab to bring it to the West End where you're staying.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 28, 2015, 09:38:52 PM
Itin v1.2

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Checkin to Park Tower, Andaz, or Hyatt Regency.
Windsor Castle.
Dinner at ?

Friday:
Tower of London/Tower bridge.
Shabbos food delivery from justkosher  (http://justkosher.co.uk)and/or 1701 (http://1701kitchen.co.uk/home-delivery/).

Motzei Shabbos:
Hamleys
Dinner at ?

Sunday:
Matt's Changing of the Guards tour/end of Whitehall Horse Guards
London transport museum
London Eye at dusk.
Dinner at ?

Monday:
Harry Potter
Dinner at ?

Tuesday:
Departing 10:15am from LHR.

Alternates/If time allows:
Herrod's
Double-decker bus tour
Museum of London
Science Museum
Kidzania.

Nice looking activities that are probably not a good idea with small kids:
Churchill War Rooms
London Dungeon
The Shard
Stonehenge

Recommended restaurants by DDFers:
DD Sandwiches for lunch. (http://www.ddsandwiches.com/retail.htm)
Meat:
Bevis Marks
La Fiesta
Milk:
Isola Bella
Pizaza

Science museum is hands on, great for kids.
City of London museum is kinda boring, and thats coming from a history buff
why don't you go to the famous British museum?
I forgot how old your kids are, but they'll probably enjoy the bank of england museum (beware IIRC it might be closed on fridays or maybe sundays)
or the Imperial war museum.
kids will LOVE the HMS Belfast.

For food also check out soyo, you'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 09:41:10 PM
Science museum is hands on, great for kids.
City of London museum is kinda boring, and thats coming from a history buff
why don't you go to the famous British museum?
I forgot how old your kids are, but they'll probably enjoy the bank of england museum (beware IIRC it might be closed on fridays or maybe sundays)
or the Imperial war museum.
kids will LOVE the HMS Belfast.

For food also check out soyo, you'll enjoy it.
2 and 4.
Don't know where to stick any of those suggestions into the current schedule.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 28, 2015, 09:43:32 PM
2 and 4.
Don't know where to stick any of those suggestions into the current schedule.
I don't think 2-4 year olds would enjoy the imperial war, HMS Belfast or the Bank of England museums.
(I've been to all three)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 09:44:41 PM
How did you decide on the transport museum?
Seemed the most unique.
Lots of cities have science museums.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 09:55:31 PM
Seemed the most unique.
Lots of cities have science museums.
There's also supposed to be a great transport museum in Lucerne. I passed it but didn't have a chance to stop by. Has anyone been to both?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on October 28, 2015, 10:15:27 PM
While you're at it, what else is worth going to for dinner :D
Some restaurants worth visiting while in london.

1. BevisMarks - Dinner
2. Isola bella - Dinner
3. Kaifeng - Dinner
4. SoYo - make it there somehow - you and your kids will love it.. - Breakfast/Lunch
5. White house - Dinner
6. Zest - I believe it's cholov yisroel - Dinner
7. Caffeine is great! B/L
8. Pizzaza - Londons favorite pizza joint. - Dinner
9. White Fish is ok.. - Dinner
10. Bagels Bar is decent. B/L

Bakeries that stand out:
1. Sharon B/L
2. Grodzinski B/L
3. Carmelli B/L
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 28, 2015, 10:37:16 PM
Itin v1.2

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Checkin to Park Tower, Andaz, or Hyatt Regency.
Windsor Castle.
Dinner at ?



You still considering Hyatt Regency with the construction notice on their website? I'm torn between the same hotels.

Working on my itinerary as well. Taking notes...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 28, 2015, 10:48:00 PM
We did not eat at Reubens for kashrus concerns. Don't recall how we came to that conclusion.
Kidzania seems really cool. I'd go there-Talia probably won't get much out of it, but what will she get much out of
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2015, 10:51:38 PM
We did not eat at Reubens for kashrus concerns. Don't recall how we came to that conclusion.
Kidzania seems really cool. I'd go there-Talia probably won't get much out of it, but what will she get much out of
So, for the same reason I guess Zest should be avoided?

Seems like the kids are on their own for Kidzania. Not sure Rafi will like being separated like that.
I know it says 4+, but it seems more likely for a 4 year old to enjoy if they had older siblings or a friend along.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 28, 2015, 10:58:18 PM
Some restaurants worth visiting while in london.

7. Caffeine is great! B/L


+1. We went there several times this summer. The food was priced decently and excellent, the place wasn't crowded, and they were very baby friendly.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 28, 2015, 11:06:24 PM
And I see some people discouraged you going to the London Eye. I think it's a great activity w/ kids. My son was 1 at the time and he was having a ball running around and staring at the buildings. I would recommend looking into the fast pass (dont remember the addl cost) as the line for tickets can be lengthy.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on October 29, 2015, 01:00:20 AM
$1 base fare on many flights from NYC-LON e.g. dec 2-10 many are around 695 total many dates available.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: David Smith on October 29, 2015, 01:06:47 AM
$1 base fare on many flights from NYC-LON e.g. dec 2-10 many are around 695 total many dates available.
Old news. $0.50 BF ain't getting you nowhere, if you know what i mean. (There were <$430 on Norwegian, but that doesn't seem to excite people.)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 29, 2015, 04:10:44 AM
Re Kidzania - they're not really alone - during the sessions when they're being "trained" or "working" at jobs, they're in a little storefront or room with other kids in that session and the parents stand outside - you can see right in through big "store" windows!

It's literally a little kids's town - the kids run around choosing where they want to go and the parents just follow them!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 09:00:47 AM
Re Kidzania - they're not really alone - during the sessions when they're being "trained" or "working" at jobs, they're in a little storefront or room with other kids in that session and the parents stand outside - you can see right in through big "store" windows!

It's literally a little kids's town - the kids run around choosing where they want to go and the parents just follow them!
It does look neat, but I just can't see him doing these things without one of us (or at least a friend) by his side:

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 09:14:55 AM
Some restaurants worth visiting while in london.

1. BevisMarks - Dinner
2. Isola bella - Dinner
3. Kaifeng - Dinner
4. SoYo - make it there somehow - you and your kids will love it.. - Breakfast/Lunch
5. White house - Dinner
6. Zest - I believe it's cholov yisroel - Dinner
7. Caffeine is great! B/L
8. Pizzaza - Londons favorite pizza joint. - Dinner
9. White Fish is ok.. - Dinner
10. Bagels Bar is decent. B/L

Bakeries that stand out:
1. Sharon B/L
2. Grodzinski B/L
3. Carmelli B/L

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DDFB response:

You left out Bet Hamadras in Hendon. Best restaurant. Period. Sami's is 10000x better than White House and better service IMO. Nothing special about SoYo.

But this article fails to mention that if you're outside NW London do not wear a kippah. If you are staying in the center of London you are a 35 min train ride to the kosher area (only two restaurants in the center) You'd be hard pressed to find an English person in town. Its basically Eastern European and Islamabad (more the latter). There are more license plates from Kuwait and Qatar in hotel parking lots than from GB. I enjoy Krakow over London any day. (Bring back saffron. Super cheap there)
I don't even see Bet Hamadras in the Wiki?
Looks like it's KF: http://www.beithamadras.co.uk/

Any reviews?

Should I be wearing a baseball cap in London as I did in Paris?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 29, 2015, 09:18:53 AM
Should I be wearing a baseball cap in London as I did in Paris?
I saw more Muslims in London than in Paris, FWIW.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 29, 2015, 09:45:24 AM



Should I be wearing a baseball cap in London as I did in Paris?

That's a load of cr*p. I've walked all over London without a problem.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on October 29, 2015, 09:56:06 AM

That's a load of cr*p. I've walked all over London without a problem.
+1
London does not feel the same like Paris. Paris is the only place in Europe where I felt a need to hide my identity, can't say the same for London.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 09:58:25 AM
Thanks guys.

Any reviews on Kaifeng, Caffeine, SoYo, or Bet Hamadras?
Seems like BevisMarks, Isola bella, and Pizzaza are generally recommended?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 29, 2015, 10:00:12 AM
+1
London does not feel the same like Paris. Paris is the only place in Europe where I felt a need to hide my identity, can't say the same for London.
Interesting. While I wore a cap throughout Europe, London was the only place I felt uncomfortable. Maybe that's because I stayed on the West End. Literally around the corner from the Shul/Marriott, you feel like you're in the Arab shuk.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on October 29, 2015, 10:08:34 AM
Interesting. While I wore a cap throughout Europe, London was the only place I felt uncomfortable. Maybe that's because I stayed on the West End. Literally around the corner from the Shul/Marriott, you feel like you're in the Arab shuk.
I personally never hide my identity while traveling. However, when it came to Paris the perception on DDF is you're going to get killed in Paris if you look like a Jew and could be that's the reason I felt uncomfortable. As for London, I've been there many times even traveling through the city by myself with hat and jacket and never felt uncomfortable.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 10:49:22 AM
I personally never hide my identity while traveling. However, when it came to Paris the perception on DDF is you're going to get killed in Paris if you look like a Jew and could be that's the reason I felt uncomfortable. As for London, I've been there many times even traveling through the city by myself with hat and jacket and never felt uncomfortable.
+1. I didn't feel uncomfortable at all in London. Truth is I didn't feel uncomfortable in Paris either and saw many people not wearing hats in the street, yet because of all the safety hype I wore a hat there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 29, 2015, 11:20:39 AM


I don't even see Bet Hamadras in the Wiki?
Looks like it's KF: http://www.beithamadras.co.uk/

Any reviews?

Should I be wearing a baseball cap in London as I did in Paris?

I haven't been to Paris in the last six years so I can't tell you about that.
In London it's absolutely safe to walk around anywhere with a Yarmulka. I've been all around London with a hat and jacket.
There are some neighborhoods where you might feel a little uncomfortable without a cap like near Edgware Road station (not to be confused with the Jewish neighborhood "Edgware" North of London) or willesdon, but I wouldn't say that it's unsafe by any means.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ar on October 29, 2015, 11:23:29 AM
I personally never hide my identity while traveling. However, when it came to Paris the perception on DDF is you're going to get killed in Paris if you look like a Jew and could be that's the reason I felt uncomfortable. As for London, I've been there many times even traveling through the city by myself with hat and jacket and never felt uncomfortable.
+1. I didn't feel uncomfortable at all in London. Truth is I didn't feel uncomfortable in Paris either and saw many people not wearing hats in the street, yet because of all the safety hype I wore a hat there.

I might be in Europe this winter and wouldn't mind popping into Paris for 24 hrs. As a frum looking Jew (no cap will help  ;)) - is it a dangerous idea? what are your recommendations?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 29, 2015, 11:23:56 AM
Oh, and about all the Asians you meet there, I mentioned up thread, most aren't Muslim. You have Sikhs, Hindus and many others.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 29, 2015, 11:29:15 AM
Thanks guys.

Any reviews on Kaifeng, Caffeine, SoYo, or Bet Hamadras?
Seems like BevisMarks, Isola bella, and Pizzaza are generally recommended?
Kaifeng has good chinese food and ambiance. However, they are a little overpriced. SoYo, whilst not a gourmet restaurant has great variety and good food. As for the other two, I haven't been so I can't comment. As mentioned, La Fiesta is a good option as well, however it's more about the meat than "fluff", so you'll be limited with apps and sides.

If you want to combine shopping with food (motzei shabbos) Brent Cross Shopping Centre has a couple of  department stores - Marks and Spencer, John Lewis, Fenwick - and a milchig place, Kanteen (check if they are open motzash if you decide to go then).
Interesting. While I wore a cap throughout Europe, London was the only place I felt uncomfortable. Maybe that's because I stayed on the West End. Literally around the corner from the Shul/Marriott, you feel like you're in the Arab shuk.
There is an overabundance of Muslims of all types in London. However they are not generally from the poorer end of society as is the case in Paris and therefore not as angry (if that makes sense). There are plenty of Jewish people that walk past one of the most radical mosques in London without a problem.

Of course one should always be aware of their surroundings, but you don't have to walk around in fear.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 11:29:33 AM
I might be in Europe this winter and wouldn't mind popping into Paris for 24 hrs. As a frum looking Jew (no cap will help  ;)) - is it a dangerous idea? what are your recommendations?
I thought no cap would help me either, but people came up to me and started talking in Arabic. Though my lack of lange payos helps I suppose.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 11:37:19 AM
I thought no cap would help me either, but people came up to me and started talking in Arabic. Though my lack of lange payos helps I suppose.
Happens to my cousin all the time. He's very dark-skinned, so people think he's Muslim all the time.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 11:37:48 AM
Happens to my cousin all the time. He's very dark-skinned, so people think he's Muslim all the time.
Yup, but I'm not dark skinned :D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 11:38:39 AM
Yup, but I'm not dark skinned :D
True, and he doesn't have a beard.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on October 29, 2015, 11:38:55 AM
I wore a Yarmulka in both London and Paris without any issues. Truth be told, the area around Edgeware Rd does make me a bit uneasy
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on October 29, 2015, 11:40:22 AM
Yup, but I'm not dark skinned :D
So many converts nowadays...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: luckyluck on October 29, 2015, 12:00:42 PM
I might be in Europe this winter and wouldn't mind popping into Paris for 24 hrs. As a frum looking Jew (no cap will help  ;)) - is it a dangerous idea? what are your recommendations?
Long discussion in Paris Master Thread http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1573.0
You should be fine as long as you don't find yourself in an empty place/street/subway...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 29, 2015, 12:22:27 PM
You absolutely don't need a cap for London, unless you're in the arab suburbs between the jewish parts of town and the city.

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 29, 2015, 01:08:26 PM
It does look neat, but I just can't see him doing these things without one of us (or at least a friend) by his side:

Looks amazing. Want to travel to London just to bring my kids...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 29, 2015, 01:10:18 PM
You will definitely meet Arabs in Harrods, but those tend to be the very wealthy ones from Qatar, UAE etc., which makes sense, considering Harrods is owned by the Qatari Royal Family.

As other posters have mentioned, it's usually perfect safe to appear Jewish in the areas you're likey to be visiting.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
Looks amazing. Want to travel to London just to bring my kids...
How old are your kids now?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
For now I will rescind my previous statement while I try to find out.
Emailed a couple shluchim.
Both said they eat at Zest and Reuben's.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 01:16:13 PM
Emailed a couple shluchim.
Both said they eat at Zest and Reuben's.
Kashrus in Europe is very confusing. Discussing it online with people you don't know if even more confusing. It seems to me that if you normally trust shluchim for kashrus when travelling and they say it's fine just go by that. Too confusing otherwise.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 01:18:48 PM
Kashrus in Europe is very confusing. Discussing it online with people you don't know if even more confusing. It seems to me that if you normally trust shluchim for kashrus when travelling and they say it's fine just go by that. Too confusing otherwise.
Yup, that's what I think I'll do. I trust they've looked into the situation on the ground.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 01:21:20 PM
Yup, that's what I think I'll do. I trust they've looked into the situation on the ground.
Good idea. Sometimes I've found that Chabad doesn't eat at perfectly good local places because of politics, but it's still much easier to ask one person and stick with their psak.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 01:31:05 PM
Good idea. Sometimes I've found that Chabad doesn't eat at perfectly good local places because of politics, but it's still much easier to ask one person and stick with their psak.
I've asked that straight up to shluchim in the page and usually get an honest response.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 29, 2015, 01:32:42 PM
How old are your kids now?
Almost 6 and almost 4. Both (especially the 4 YO) would run off and forget we were there. I think they could spend a week there and not get tired of it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on October 29, 2015, 01:36:29 PM
Yup, that's what I think I'll do. I trust they've looked into the situation on the ground.
Confirmed over the phone with Zest they are cholov yisroel.

If it was between SoYo or Caffeine - I would recommend SoYo..
But it seems overall people agree both are quite good. Personally i would come in to London in the morning to grab a good breakfast at SoYo on at least one day - then buy some stuff from the local stores for lunch while out touring.. SoYo is right next to Kosher Kindom - which sells everything...
People Recommended kaifeng not just because of the food, but also because of the ambiance. the combo makes it a really nice place to have dinner.. kinda romantic..

My english cousins recommend the "wonderful salt beef sandwiches." at ruebens.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 01:42:58 PM
Almost 6 and almost 4. Both (especially the 4 YO) would run off and forget we were there. I think they could spend a week there and not get tired of it.
Hmm. Made me rethink my position, but now the reviews are scaring me away as well:
https://www.google.com/search?q=KidZania+London,+1st+Floor,,+Westfield+London+Shopping+Centre,+Ariel+Way,+London+W12+7GA&ludocid=8505534552708463554#lrd=0x48760fdbca1af2df:0x7609ba9c86ffbbc2,1
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 01:49:43 PM
Confirmed over the phone with Zest they are cholov yisroel.

If it was between SoYo or Caffeine - I would recommend SoYo..
But it seems overall people agree both are quite good. Personally i would come in to London in the morning to grab a good breakfast at SoYo on at least one day - then buy some stuff from the local stores for lunch while out touring.. SoYo is right next to Kosher Kindom - which sells everything...
People Recommended kaifeng not just because of the food, but also because of the ambiance. the combo makes it a really nice place to have dinner.. kinda romantic..

My english cousins recommend the "wonderful salt beef sandwiches." at ruebens.
1. Seems hard to beleive it could it be worth spending over an hour in transit for breakfast.
2. Romantic isn't really what I care about on a trip with 2 little kids.
3. Isn't that just corned beef? Haven't read much about Reuben's except that it's well located for tourists but very overpriced for mediocre food.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 29, 2015, 01:55:11 PM
Hmm. Made me rethink my position, but now the reviews are scaring me away as well:
https://www.google.com/search?q=KidZania+London,+1st+Floor,,+Westfield+London+Shopping+Centre,+Ariel+Way,+London+W12+7GA&ludocid=8505534552708463554#lrd=0x48760fdbca1af2df:0x7609ba9c86ffbbc2,1

Two main complaints in the reviews:
1. Price for adults and kids under 4, which is crazy. A decision you have to make
2. Long waiting times. If you're going mid week and not during a vacation time, I'd go. If only time you have is weekend or you're traveling during holidays I'd skip it
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 29, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
Hmm. Made me rethink my position, but now the reviews are scaring me away as well:
https://www.google.com/search?q=KidZania+London,+1st+Floor,,+Westfield+London+Shopping+Centre,+Ariel+Way,+London+W12+7GA&ludocid=8505534552708463554#lrd=0x48760fdbca1af2df:0x7609ba9c86ffbbc2,1

What are your travel dates? Lots of English schools are on "half term" break over the next few weekends.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on October 29, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
Emailed a couple shluchim.
Both said they eat at Zest and Reuben's.
Sounds good!
Kashrus in Europe is very confusing. Discussing it online with people you don't know if even more confusing. It seems to me that if you normally trust shluchim for kashrus when travelling and they say it's fine just go by that. Too confusing otherwise.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 02:07:00 PM

Two main complaints in the reviews:
1. Price for adults and kids under 4, which is crazy. A decision you have to make
2. Long waiting times. If you're going mid week and not during a vacation time, I'd go. If only time you have is weekend or you're traveling during holidays I'd skip it
Right, $112 for us, pretty crazy for 4 hours.

But more than that the reviews also seem to say that age 4 is really pushing things and that the attractions aren't as great as it seems from the video.

Plus how does the queue work? There's no way that Rafi will just patiently wait in a queue without us by his side.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 02:14:38 PM
HP is an all day event. If you're going with a tour you will be dropped off in London, but if you drive yourself you drive right through Hendon and pass some kosher restaurants that are literally on the same road. May be a consideration if you really want to go out to eat and don't want to backtrack, but it's not the cheapest option for sure.
The Golden tour seems like a rip-off. Basically charging £80 to go to their bus stop to be driven there. A door-to-door Uber would be the same price.
Or a train+shuttle would be a small fraction of that.
Plus with Uber you could go right to GG afterward for dinner.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 29, 2015, 02:14:51 PM
Right, $112 for us, pretty crazy for 4 hours.
Agreed, especially since Rafi is the only one who will enjoy.
I personally wouldn't pay that for 1 kid.

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But more than that the reviews also seem to say that age 4 is really pushing things
All depends on your kid. No one knows him better than you.

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and that the attractions aren't as great as it seems from the video.
That's to be expected. Question is how far off is it

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Plus how does the queue work? There's no way that Rafi will just patiently wait in a queue without us by his side.
Good question. But if you're going midweek not during a holiday doesn't seem like this would be an issue. could he wait 5-10 minutes by himself?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 02:16:18 PM
could he wait 5-10 minutes by himself?
If we were with him he could wait an hour, but by himself I have a hard time imagining him staying in line for more than a few minutes.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 29, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
He is never by himself at all in a queue. The parents stand with the child in the queue til he goes into the session, and even then, they are right outside, watching him, and he can see them almost all the time.

Also the staff are all trained to work with children, and I found majority of them to be very enthusiastic and loving what they do. Remember the place was created for kids to be feel like adults and they do that really well.

Pricewise, its pretty much the same as any amusement park but here you're spending time in a much more educational and classy environment. Also it's right in middle of a very nice mall so your wife can come and go to the shops as she pleases.

I went there with children ranging from 4 to 8 and they loved every second.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 02:28:18 PM
If my kids were 4 and 6 it would be a no-brainer.
At 2 and 4 I'm on the fence.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 29, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
If my kids were 4 and 6 it would be a no-brainer.
I'm 2 and 4 I'm on the fence.

I agree, it's a tough call. Maybe just hope that the USA one will open soon....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: EJB on October 29, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
Yup, that's what I think I'll do. I trust they've looked into the situation on the ground.

We ate at Ruebens. I didn't personally research but an English friend I trust did and said it was fine.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 02:54:47 PM
The Golden tour seems like a rip-off. Basically charging £80 to go to their bus stop to be driven there. A door-to-door Uber would be the same price.
Or a train+shuttle would be a small fraction of that.
Plus with Uber you could go right to GG afterward for dinner.
The price of the Golden tour (http://www.goldentours.com/warner-bros-studio-tour-london-the-making-of-harry-potter-tickets-with-return-bus-transport) with transport is not £80/person. It's £63/person for adults, £20/4-year old for transport only, and free for 2 and under.

We stayed at the Park Tower which is only a mile walk from Victoria station, so we just walked.

Uber from the Park Tower shows £32-£43 just for transport each way

Studio tickets without transport at £33 each

So if you took uber for £75 round trip, plus £66 for tickets you're looking at £141 total. If you did Golden tours it's £146. Obviously Uber can be higher, especially if it's super trafficy, so let's just say it's about even.

Another thing to consider is that officially the Studios is outside of Uber's pickup area for London, so you may not be able to call one to pick you up. It's pretty rural, so there may not be any around. I also didn't see any cabs lying around. People either seem to drive or take the bus from either the train station nearby or London.

I understand it makes sense to go to GG after, but I just wanted to make sure you were aware of everything before going. I'd be worse to have to call a taxi or car service from the Studio to pick you up and get charged a pretty penny for it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 03:07:38 PM
-The £80 figure is what Golden charges over the cost of tickets.
-I've always found Uber to come it at the very bottom, if not lower, than their estimate.
-The Uber advantage is bigger if we decide on the Andaz.
-I've been checking Uber from the WB studio and it never seems to be more than a 5 minute wait. But in the worst case, the train/shuttle doesn't look too bad.
-The biggest advantage of Uber is going right to GG for dinner.
-The problem for Uber is what to do with 2 carseats? Do you think WB might have a place where we could leave them while we toured?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on October 29, 2015, 03:14:25 PM
Another nice idea we did when downtown was take the Thames MBNAClipper water taxi (cheapest way to pay is with the Oystercard) which goes from near the Eye (both sides of the river) and all the way down to the o2
You haev nice views form the river and a peaceful ride
When you get to the o2 you can take the Emirates Airline (no you cant you miles, but can be put on the oystercard too) which is a cable car above the Thames ( a bit way out but nice views of canary wharf)  and then the tube back to Andaz/Bevis marks
Total trip probably 90 min
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 03:15:41 PM
-The £80 figure is what Golden charges over the cost of tickets. Still not sure I get this. Link?
-I've always found Uber to come it at the very bottom, if not lower, than their estimate. Could be, but London traffic is horrendous. It was especially bad because we were there during a Tube strike, but fair point.
-The Uber advantage is bigger if we decide on the Andaz. You decided to stay there? True, it's a lot bigger of an advantage from the Andaz, since it's nowhere near Victoria Station
-I've been checking Uber from the WB studio and it never seems to be more than a 5 minute wait. But in the worst case, the train/shuttle doesn't look too bad. Hopefully that's indeed the case.
-The biggest advantage of Uber is going right to GG for dinner. +1
-The problem for Uber is what to do with 2 carseats? Do you think WB might have a place where we could leave them while we toured? They have a staffed coat room on the right after you walk in. Could be worth a call to see if they'll store your car seats, as schlepping them through would be a really pain.
We did the Golden tour and were quite happy with it. We also did the evening tour so it was only £50/person, making it cheaper than taking Uber, even had we been at the Andaz. I wouldn't call it a rip off.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 29, 2015, 03:25:32 PM
With regard to car seats, don't know if you're comfortable with this, but the law in England is that children do not need car seats when travelling in minicabs or private hire vehicles.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 03:26:17 PM
With regard to car seats, don't know if you're comfortable with this, but the law in England is that children do not need car seats when travelling in minicabs or private hire vehicles.
UberX counts as a private hire vehicle?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: JoshNY on October 29, 2015, 03:33:22 PM
UberX counts as a private hire vehicle?

Yes I believe so.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 29, 2015, 04:18:32 PM
With regard to car seats, don't know if you're comfortable with this, but the law in England is that children do not need car seats when travelling in minicabs or private hire vehicles.
I don't put my kids in carseats because of the law, I do it for their safety :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 29, 2015, 04:23:22 PM
I don't put my kids in carseats because of the law, I do it for their safety :)
You obviously arent a child of the 80's  ;D This is gonna go in the nostalgia thread...Who remembers sleeping on the ledge of the rear window?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 29, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
Or piling 10 kids into the back of a station wagon. Good times.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 04:36:03 PM
I especially liked the station wagons that had 2 bench seats facing each other. More people fit (on a seat) in the back, but I agree about using car seats for safety.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on October 29, 2015, 05:26:38 PM
I especially liked the station wagons that had 2 bench seats facing each other. More people fit (on a seat) in the back, but I agree about using car seats for safety.
+1 But my teenagers refuse to sit in them.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 29, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
+1 But my teenagers refuse to sit in them.
lol
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on October 29, 2015, 06:24:16 PM
Another nice idea we did when downtown was take the Thames MBNAClipper water taxi (cheapest way to pay is with the Oystercard) which goes from near the Eye (both sides of the river) and all the way down to the o2
You haev nice views form the river and a peaceful ride
When you get to the o2 you can take the Emirates Airline (no you cant you miles, but can be put on the oystercard too) which is a cable car above the Thames ( a bit way out but nice views of canary wharf)  and then the tube back to Andaz/Bevis marks
Total trip probably 90 min
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on October 30, 2015, 02:59:41 AM
1. Seems hard to beleive it could it be worth spending over an hour in transit for breakfast.
2. Romantic isn't really what I care about on a trip with 2 little kids.
3. Isn't that just corned beef? Haven't read much about Reuben's except that it's well located for tourists but very overpriced for mediocre food.

1. If you wake up starving for a full-on breakfast - you have a plan B
2. lol..
3. Dunno but bevis marks has a sorta pulled salt beef dish that was very good.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 30, 2015, 04:14:14 AM
3. Isn't that just corned beef? Haven't read much about Reuben's except that it's well located for tourists but very overpriced for mediocre food.

We ate at Reuben's when we were in London in 2013. I had such low expectations going in, that I was pleasantly surprised. The food wasn't great, but it was fine, and since it was a one day trip (23 hours, to avoid APD) I couldn't spend time going to GG. Having that option right there in town was great. Food wasn't near as expensive as 1701 was either, but everything in UK is expensive for us because of the exchange rate.

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Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mendy613 on October 30, 2015, 01:46:09 PM
I am so happy Dan is going.. Its giving me lots of info to read :)

Question: Does the App "Kosher Near Me" have most places all around London?

We like winging it..
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 30, 2015, 01:58:08 PM
I am so happy Dan is going.. Its giving me lots of info to read :)

Question: Does the App "Kosher Near Me" have most places all around London?

We like winging it..
It has all the DD locations, probably all the real restaurants as well.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mendy613 on November 01, 2015, 10:56:15 AM
Great, thanks!!
This Shabbos.. :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 01, 2015, 11:07:16 AM
HP confirmed you can check carseats at the front for free :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 01, 2015, 11:26:31 AM
HP confirmed you can check carseats at the front for free :)
Awesome, so Uber it is then I assume.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 03, 2015, 11:56:21 AM
If im flying into LHR and would like to continue on to Antwerp. what would be the most direct/ and or cheapest way?
Flying I understand would be a one hour flight and a train ride from BRU to Antwerp.
Is there a train from from LHR to Antwerp? what would a car ride/shuttle cost?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 03, 2015, 11:59:35 AM
If im flying into LHR and would like to continue on to Antwerp. what would be the most direct/ and or cheapest way?
Flying I understand would be a one hour flight and a train ride from BRU to Antwerp.
Is there a train from from LHR to Antwerp? what would a car ride/shuttle cost?
No one flies into Antwerp directly?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 03, 2015, 12:06:42 PM
If im flying into LHR and would like to continue on to Antwerp. what would be the most direct/ and or cheapest way?
Flying I understand would be a one hour flight and a train ride from BRU to Antwerp.
Is there a train from from LHR to Antwerp? what would a car ride/shuttle cost?
Train - You would have to get to St Pancras Station to catch a train to Brussels. You'd probably want the underground to Kings Cross/St Pancras for the cheapest connection.

Plane - As you mentioned, you can fly to Brussels. There are flights from LCY to Antwerp, however if you are coming into LHR, it's not worth the shlep across town.

Car/Shuttle - As I posted in the Belgium thread, there are a couple of services, however none of them will pick you up from the airport, so you will have to make your way into town.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 03, 2015, 12:22:28 PM
Train - You would have to get to St Pancras Station to catch a train to Brussels. You'd probably want the underground to Kings Cross/St Pancras for the cheapest connection.

Plane - As you mentioned, you can fly to Brussels. There are flights from LCY to Antwerp, however if you are coming into LHR, it's not worth the shlep across town.

Car/Shuttle - As I posted in the Belgium thread, there are a couple of services, however none of them will pick you up from the airport, so you will have to make your way into town.
Thanks. How do I get from LHR to St Pancras how far is it? also, any idea as of pricing?
To sum it up, leaving from LHR there is no direct way to Antwerp. So that leaves me with flying into BRU or train from St pancreas. both options with one stop...

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 03, 2015, 12:38:12 PM
Thanks. How do I get from LHR to St Pancras how far is it? also, any idea as of pricing?
To sum it up, leaving from LHR there is no direct way to Antwerp. So that leaves me with flying into BRU or train from St pancreas. both options with one stop...
By underground, direct train to Kings Cross on the Picadilly line. For distances and pricing check the TFL planner link in the wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 03, 2015, 12:45:43 PM
By underground, direct train to Kings Cross on the Picadilly line. For distances and pricing check the TFL planner link in the wiki.
+1 The the Piccadilly line is easy and located in all terminals of LHR, though the ride should take a while, maybe around an hour from LHR to Kings Cross.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 03, 2015, 03:19:01 PM
+1 The the Piccadilly line is easy and located in all terminals of LHR, though the ride should take a while, maybe around an hour from LHR to Kings Cross.
in conclusion, i gather it makes the most sense to fly to brussels.....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: zow on November 04, 2015, 10:35:11 AM
You obviously arent a child of the 80's  ;D This is gonna go in the nostalgia thread...Who remembers sleeping on the ledge of the rear window?
No way! Never that. How unsafe! ;)
(But, one of us would be on the floor of the back seat and the other splayed out across the seat itself.  Problem was those darn seat belts would get in the way!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on November 04, 2015, 11:46:49 AM
No way! Never that. How unsafe! ;)
(But, one of us would be on the floor of the back seat and the other splayed out across the seat itself.  Problem was those darn seat belts would get in the way!
Many threads making me feel old today.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 04, 2015, 11:56:13 AM
+1 The the Piccadilly line is easy and located in all terminals of LHR, though the ride should take a while, maybe around an hour from LHR to Kings Cross.
less, prob closer to half hour
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 04, 2015, 11:57:49 AM
in conclusion, i gather it makes the most sense to fly to brussels.....
or you can catch a flight from southend SEN to antwerp they have flights to the airport which is right next to antwerp, something like 5 min away
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 04, 2015, 12:57:35 PM
less, prob closer to half hour
-1
I recently did that trip and it took just over an hour.
Pls don't misinform ppl.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 04, 2015, 12:58:58 PM
or you can catch a flight from southend SEN to antwerp they have flights to the airport which is right next to antwerp, something like 5 min away
Not worth the hassle/cost.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 04, 2015, 03:14:28 PM
Not worth the hassle/cost.
figured as much. Thanks.
Plus for LHR I can use Avios...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 04, 2015, 07:38:19 PM
Just giving the options.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2015, 02:51:05 PM
Itin v2.0

Thursday:
Arriving Thursday at 7:50am into LHR.
Uber to Andaz (40GBP)
Checkin at Andaz
Underground/Train to Windsor Castle.
Underground/Train to Dinner at Bevis Marks.
Walk to Andaz.

Friday:
Walk to Tower of London and Tower bridge.
Shabbos food delivery from justkosher  (http://justkosher.co.uk)and/or 1701 (http://1701kitchen.co.uk/home-delivery/).

Motzei Shabbos:
Underground to Hamleys
Underground to Dinner at (Isola Bella? or Pizaza?)
Underground to Andaz

Sunday:
Underground to Matt's Changing of the Guards tour/end of Whitehall Horse Guards
Walk to London transport museum
Walk to London Eye at dusk.
Underground to dinner at (Zest or ?)
Underground to Andaz

Monday:
Uber to Harry Potter/Warner Bros (33GBP)
Uber to Dinner at (La Fiesta? Kaifeng? Bet Hamadras? Reuben's? Sami's?)
Underground to Andaz

Tuesday:
Uber to LHR for 10:15am departure  (37GBP)

Alternates/If time allows:
Herrod's
Double-decker bus tour
Museum of London
Science Museum
Kidzania

Nice looking activities that are probably not a good idea with small kids:
Churchill War Rooms
London Dungeon
The Shard
Stonehenge
Imperial war museum
HMS Belfast
Bank of England museum

Recommended restaurants by DDFers:
DD Sandwiches for lunch. (http://www.ddsandwiches.com/retail.htm)

Meat:
Bevis Marks
La Fiesta
Kaifeng
Bet Hamadras
Reuben's
Sami's

Milk:
Isola Bella
Pizaza
Zest
Caffeine
SoYo
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2015, 02:53:23 PM
Looks good to me. Certainly looks like you got things ironed out a bit. Why did you choose the Andaz over the Park Tower?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2015, 02:55:22 PM
Looks good to me. Certainly looks like you got things ironed out a bit. Why did you choose the Andaz over the Park Tower?
Doesn't look like my SNA is going to clear at the Park Tower while I used a DSU for the Andaz. Not yet in the window, but sold out for now.
If it does clear it's back to square one :D

Although the Andaz is better situated for Underground to GG and Windsor Castle.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2015, 03:01:50 PM
Doesn't look like my SNA is going to clear at the Park Tower while I used a DSU for the Andaz. Not yet in the window, but sold out for now.
If it does clear it's back to square one :D

Although the Andaz is better situated for Underground to GG and Windsor Castle.
Well I will give you that, it's close to the train/tube stations, but it's farther from tourist attractions. Using a DSU also makes sense. The Andaz is no doubt a nice hotel, I'm sure it'll be nice, but I don't think you'd be back to square one. You've already planned the activities!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Well I will give you that, it's close to the train/tube stations, but it's farther from tourist attractions. Using a DSU also makes sense. The Andaz is no doubt a nice hotel, I'm sure it'll be nice, but I don't think you'd be back to square one. You've already planned the activities!
Farther for Sundays activities (where we just need to go one-way) but closer for Fridays activities (where well walk both ways).
Plus nonstop tube to GG.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 05, 2015, 05:13:21 PM
I would suggest Reubens for dinner on Sunday, and La Fiesta or Bet Hamadras (if you're feeling experimental) for Monday.

If you are anyway Ubering from HP, another good option is The Kitchen in Edgware.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 09, 2015, 04:16:01 PM
Im planning my London Itin. for 2 Adults in December
I read through the thread ( or most of it) couple of questions...
We're thinking of arriving either early morning or midday and were leaving the following evening. What are the must do's we can fit in?
As far as accomodations, Is there anywhere we can stay walking distance to attractions and walking distance to minyan?
How much of a must is windsor castle, it seems like its quite out of the neighborhood....
It seems like there are a few change of guards. I've got the Buckingham palace, new windsor,Tower of london, Queen's Life Guard - Horse Guards Parade and Im sure there are more... Do they all generally take place in the morning? Does that mean i need at least two mornings in london?

 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2015, 04:20:13 PM
Im planning my London Itin. for 2 Adults in December
I read through the thread ( or most of it) couple of questions...
We're thinking of arriving either early morning or midday and were leaving the following evening. What are the must do's we can fit in?
As far as accomodations, Is there anywhere we can stay walking distance to attractions and walking distance to minyan?
How much of a must is windsor castle, it seems like its quite out of the neighborhood....
It seems like there are a few change of guards. I've got the Buckingham palace, new windsor,Tower of london, Queen's Life Guard - Horse Guards Parade and Im sure there are more... Do they all generally take place in the morning? Does that mean i need at least two mornings in london?
Don't think about leaving the city itself assuming neither person has been to London before. Use Matt's tour for the Changing of the Guard tour, it's well  worth it.No (points) hotel is both near a shul and attractions, but the tube is excellent and likely near the hotel.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 09, 2015, 05:03:03 PM
Don't think about leaving the city  as in going to Windsor Palace?itself assuming neither person has been to London before. [b]Use Matt's tour for the Changing of the Guard tour, it's well  worth it[/b] Can you do the change of gaurds w/o a tour AKA free? How is the tour different? .No (points) hotel is both near a shul and attractions, but the tube Link Please? is excellent and likely near the hotel.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2015, 05:04:39 PM

That's confusing, but Matt's tour is of the famous changing, Buckingham Palace. Link in wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on November 09, 2015, 05:37:35 PM
Windsor Castle is right by heathrow, you could do it right before a flight or right off a flight
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 09, 2015, 05:53:31 PM
HR Churchill is walking distance to marble Arch synagogue and fairly centrally located
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on November 09, 2015, 06:16:59 PM
HR Churchill is walking distance to marble Arch synagogue and fairly centrally located
Its under construction but open per their website. Just a heads up.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 09, 2015, 06:38:14 PM
Windsor Castle is right by heathrow, you could do it right before a flight or right off a flight
And what do you do with your luggage?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2015, 06:44:35 PM
And what do you do with your luggage?
Either check in early or leave it at one of the Left Luggage facilities either in the airport or at a city train station.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 09, 2015, 06:49:54 PM
Either check in early or leave it at one of the Left Luggage facilities either in the airport or at a city train station.
Many airports don't allow checked bags earlier than 4 hours before the flight.
And left luggage will set you back some $17 per bag.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Many airports don't allow checked bags earlier than 4 hours before the flight.
And left luggage will set you back some $17 per bag.
True, but we used it in Waterloo station. Sure we had to pay for it, but we only had 2 bags. It was better than schlepping them all around town for the day.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on November 09, 2015, 07:24:17 PM

Yes, for a short trip, skip Windsor. Changing of the Guards is free. Matt has a reputation for getting you good vantage points of the ceremony (something hard to do on your own without showing up extremely early), while also providing a tour experience to explain what's going on. Most people just stand there and watch, but don't get a background history, etc. Tube just means the subway system of London.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on November 09, 2015, 07:29:43 PM
And what do you do with your luggage?
If its only a day and a half trip according to Windsor Castle website they have someplace to store luggage and other bags while you are there. It may pay to go from LHR directly to windsor castle.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 09, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
according to Windsor Castle website they have someplace to store luggage
Link?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 09, 2015, 07:34:57 PM
Link?
Any  chance for a London seminar if some sort ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 09, 2015, 07:38:50 PM
Windsor castle:

The following items must be checked in and reclaimed at the end of your visit:
· Pen knives and knives with blades under 7.7cm (3”)
· Scissors
· Large bags that can fit through airport-style security scanners.
· Long umbrellas
· Pushchairs and buggies (baby-carriers and hip-carriers are available to borrow, subject to
availability)
· Alcohol
· Paints/aerosols.

The following items may not be brought into Windsor Castle:
· Bicycles, folding bikes, roller-skates or skateboards.
· Pets or animals (excluding service animals)
· Large bags that can not fit through airport-style security scanners.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 09, 2015, 07:39:33 PM
Meanwhile that means no strollers.
Think a 2 year old will get around the castle without a stroller?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2015, 07:50:33 PM
Meanwhile that means no strollers.
Think a 2 year old will get around the castle without a stroller?
That depends on how strong your arms are.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on November 09, 2015, 08:48:56 PM
Link?
https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/visit/windsorcastle/plan-your-visit/practical-information

"Cloakroom facilities

There is a security cloakroom in the China Museum at the entrance to the State Apartments for the storage of large items of baggage. Large backpacks are not permitted in the State Apartments and must be checked in here."


For your kid info:
https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/visit/windsorcastle/plan-your-visit/visiting-with-children/top-tips
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 09, 2015, 09:42:34 PM
https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/visit/windsorcastle/plan-your-visit/practical-information

"Cloakroom facilities

There is a security cloakroom in the China Museum at the entrance to the State Apartments for the storage of large items of baggage. Large backpacks are not permitted in the State Apartments and must be checked in here."

Click for the full list and you'll see luggage that doesn't fit through an airport style x-ray is not allowed to go there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on November 09, 2015, 10:19:10 PM
Click for the full list and you'll see luggage that doesn't fit through an airport style x-ray is not allowed to go there.
Sorry. The excess baggage company can also deliver from LHR according to their website. On mobile now cant get link.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 09, 2015, 10:53:34 PM
Meanwhile that means no strollers.
Think a 2 year old will get around the castle without a stroller?

I've been there with a stroller. We had to check it in only when touring the indoor section. So a lot of the time was no problem. Though the hip belts they offer are a waste of time ime., depends on size of baby...
The stroller actually helped us skip a long line,  details thread.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 10, 2015, 12:59:14 PM
What would be the closest shul to either LHR or center of the city that would have minyanim till 9-10 AM?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2015, 01:00:13 PM
What would be the closest shul to either LHR or center of the city that would have minyanim till 9-10 AM?
I don't believe there are any minyanim in the city center that have minyanim at that time. Probably GG is closest.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 10, 2015, 07:24:22 PM
Think it would be too risky to send our bags in an Uber to the Andaz while we go to Windsor Castle?
Would be cheaper than storing them in LHR...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 10, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
No
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2015, 07:35:38 PM
If you trust Uber to do that, why not? Uber has insurance to cover you if the driver decides to steal everything, but how likely is that?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 04:54:29 AM
Think it would be too risky to send our bags in an Uber to the Andaz while we go to Windsor Castle?
Would be cheaper than storing them in LHR...
y not get a heimishe driver yto do that ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2015, 08:20:18 AM
Not a bad idea, any recommendations?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 11, 2015, 08:33:34 AM
Then you could ask them to bring you breakfast also
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 09:11:04 AM
Not a bad idea, any recommendations?
Can get.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 09:14:05 AM
How about  getting a driver  to pick you up from the airport drop you by windsor castle, and then continue in with your luggage to the hotel ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2015, 09:31:04 AM
Can get.
?

How about  getting a driver  to pick you up from the airport drop you by windsor castle, and then continue in with your luggage to the hotel ?
Sounds like a good idea.
Really issue is that the kids may be too cranky after the redeye to do Windsor. Hard to say.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 09:34:49 AM
Correct, and in that case u can  just use uber straight to the hotel no need for a heimeshe driver.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2015, 09:38:32 AM
What are the best/cheapest heimishe drivers emails/numbers?
Do they actually use frum drivers (that would be more trustworthy than uber)?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 10:41:12 AM
What are the best/cheapest heimishe drivers emails/numbers?
Do they actually use frum drivers (that would be more trustworthy than uber)?
There's no "they use" there are a lot of private ones. Most of them that I know of are from Stamford hill. I can get some numbers
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on November 11, 2015, 11:48:56 AM
What are the best/cheapest heimishe drivers emails/numbers?
Do they actually use frum drivers (that would be more trustworthy than uber)?
I can tell you personally that emess's drivers are mainly muslium
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 11, 2015, 11:54:03 AM


I can tell you personally that emess's drivers are mainly Asian

FTFY
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2015, 01:36:25 PM
So no advantage of them over Uber?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 11, 2015, 01:49:32 PM
So no advantage of them over Uber?
He wasn't referring to Emes drivers. He was talking about local heimish drivers, some of whom do Uber as well. They are usually more reliable and I would trust them more with luggage.

You could also contact them in advance with an itinerary to get a price.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
He wasn't referring to Emes drivers. He was talking about local heimish drivers, some of whom do Uber as well. They are usually more reliable and I would trust them more with luggage.

You could also contact them in advance with an itinerary to get a price.
+1
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2015, 02:51:16 PM
Anyone have a number or email for a heimish driver?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
I'm working on getting one.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
Would prob make more sense for you to get one from G.G. as its closer to Heathrow and ur not gonna be ending Ur trip in Stamford hill,
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
pm sent
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 11, 2015, 04:25:26 PM
pm sent
Why not let everyone benefit? Can be added to wiki...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 11, 2015, 04:39:09 PM
Anyone have a number or email for a heimish driver?

David Shapiro - + 44 (0)7957 250 861

Danny Meshulam - dannymeshulam@gmail.com

Hope to get some more and then add to wiki
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 11, 2015, 04:42:58 PM
Anyone have a number or email for a heimish driver?

Paging MeirS or High End Hobo for Shloime S number? Do you think he would do such a job, or does he have routine jobs at that time of day?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 11, 2015, 05:41:20 PM
Paging MeirS or High End Hobo for Shloime S number? Do you think he would do such a job, or does he have routine jobs at that time of day?
I don't know if he would do a family of 4. He only has a 15p.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 11, 2015, 05:59:22 PM
David Shapiro - + 44 (0)7957 250 861

Danny Meshulam - dannymeshulam@gmail.com, +44 (0)7528036191

Hope to get some more and then add to wiki

added phone number
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 11, 2015, 05:59:49 PM
I don't know if he would do a family of 4. He only has a 15p.

couldn't hurt to ask
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 11, 2015, 06:37:14 PM
Why not let everyone benefit? Can be added to wiki...
Cuz don't know if he does these kind of jobs, want to ask  him before I add to wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on November 11, 2015, 11:53:46 PM
Shlomi S, very friendly and cheap, he has big van though. He'll act as a free unsolicted tour guide of london as well. he saved my neck once when i woke up 80 minutes before my flight ;) Just tell him 'the hobo' referred you, he knows me 447710228114, if he doesn't pick up, leave a message or whatsapp him
447710228114

alternatively, Ronie Weisbart, 442084586607, frum and trustworthy
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on November 11, 2015, 11:55:12 PM
Paging MeirS or High End Hobo for Shloime S number? Do you think he would do such a job, or does he have routine jobs at that time of day?

He doesn't have anymore routine driving jobs, he has a day job, but its flexible hours and he can take off
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 12, 2015, 11:29:21 AM
Just saw a local add for a company with all heimish drivers.
613cars.co.uk
Info@613cars.co.uk
+44 (0)8202 1515
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 12, 2015, 11:35:08 AM
Just saw a local add for a company with all heimish drivers.
613cars.co.uk
Info@613cars.co.uk
+44 (0)8202 1515

I think you left out some digits there...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on November 12, 2015, 11:49:27 AM
I think you left out some digits there...
020 8202 1515
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on November 12, 2015, 11:59:51 AM
lost bags in JFK ???

AA is taking their revenge out on the boss.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on November 12, 2015, 12:15:06 PM
lost bags in JFK ???

AA is taking their revenge out on the boss.
Link
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: theeari on November 12, 2015, 03:35:38 PM
Does anyone know of a reliable Rabbi that could arrange for a minyan for shachris at Heathrow (prob need 6 additional men)? He would get a nice donation.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 12, 2015, 03:53:38 PM
Does anyone know of a reliable Rabbi that could arrange for a minyan for shachris at Heathrow (prob need 6 additional men)? He would get a nice donation.

When for?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 12, 2015, 03:55:08 PM
020 8202 1515

Thanks
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: theeari on November 12, 2015, 03:56:55 PM
When for?
Next week
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on November 12, 2015, 06:10:28 PM

What would be the closest shul to either LHR or center of the city that would have minyanim till 9-10 AM?
Not sure if this is of help to you, but Chabad in West Hampstead (short tube ride away from central London) has a 9:00 minyan
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mendy613 on November 12, 2015, 08:03:12 PM
I know this doesnt really go here, but i think some of you would want to know..

So we just got back from our trip using the BA AARP Business-class seats and these posted to our account..

BRITISH AIRWAYS 1517 J JFK LHR   11/2/15   3,452   863   4,315
NAF15- BONUS OFFER BET NA & EUROPE   11/2/15   0   12,500   12,500

Seems like we got less than we thought...

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2015, 08:09:55 PM
I know this doesnt really go here, but i think some of you would want to know..

So we just got back from our trip using the BA AARP Business-class seats and these posted to our account..

BRITISH AIRWAYS 1517 J JFK LHR   11/2/15   3,452   863   4,315
NAF15- BONUS OFFER BET NA & EUROPE   11/2/15   0   12,500   12,500

Seems like we got less than we thought...


Looks about right for one-way?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mendy613 on November 13, 2015, 12:59:23 AM
Maybe the rest will post soon..
It's strange though, on my account these posted, but on the wife's and baby's nothing at all.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mendy613 on November 15, 2015, 11:46:36 PM
The other 12.5k posted on my account, Still nothing on other accounts.

BTW, as a Data Point, i used Avios part payment, 30k each.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 18, 2015, 11:20:31 AM
Is there an option to rent a car in LHR with the steering wheel on the left side?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 18, 2015, 11:26:53 AM
Is there an option to rent a car in LHR with the steering wheel on the left side?
No, y would u want that ?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 11:28:52 AM
No, y would u want that ?
+1! Driving with the stearing wheel on the right side is a lot safer when driving on the left side of the road. Trying to drive a drive-left car in a drive-left country is backwards, more difficult, and not practical (how can you pay a toll, collect a parking garage ticket, etc if you're seated on the wrong side of the  car?).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 18, 2015, 11:38:56 AM
+1! (how can you pay a toll, collect a parking garage ticket, etc if you're seated on the wrong side of the  car?).
Being that he's traveling I'd imagine he'll have a travel companion next to him most of the time...
And driving in a left steering wheeled car really isn't a big deal, I've done countless times, and if you're wondering... Yes, I've done both. I learned how to drive and passed my test in the UK.
But back to the OP question, no its not possible. (It's illegal)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 18, 2015, 11:44:10 AM
+1! Driving with the stearing wheel on the right side is a lot safer when driving on the left side of the road. Trying to drive a drive-left car in a drive-left country is backwards, more difficult, and not practical (how can you pay a toll, collect a parking garage ticket, etc if you're seated on the wrong side of the  car?).

It is not difficult at all to drive a left hand drive car in on the left side. It is however, quite impractical for the reasons you mentioned. Having said that there is no option to rent such a car over here. If someone is really desperate to drive one they could rent one in Belgium or France and drive over.

It doesn't take long to get used to right-hand driving and could easily be mastered on the drive from the airport to your destination.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 18, 2015, 11:47:45 AM
It is not difficult at all to drive a left hand drive car in on the left side. It is however, quite impractical for the reasons you mentioned. Having said that there is no option to rent such a car over here. If someone is really desperate to drive one they could rent one in Belgium or France and drive over.

It doesn't take long to get used to right-hand driving and could easily be mastered on the drive from the airport to your destination.
+1
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 12:00:27 PM
(It's illegal)
What's this about it being illegal? I know it's doable and driving right-side drive cards isn't hard either (takes all of 2 seconds to get used to it), but illegal?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 18, 2015, 12:03:13 PM
What's this about it being illegal? I know it's doable and driving right-side drive cards isn't hard either (takes all of 2 seconds to get used to it), but illegal?

It's perfectly legal.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 12:04:47 PM
It's perfectly legal.
Just as it is to drive a drive-right car in the US.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 18, 2015, 12:14:17 PM
What's this about it being illegal? I know it's doable and driving right-side drive cards isn't hard either (takes all of 2 seconds to get used to it), but illegal?
It's perfectly legal.
Let me clarify... It is illegal for an official rental company to rent out left hand drive cars.
If you do know of such a (legal) company, by all means, please DO let me know. I would love to hire from them!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 18, 2015, 12:16:45 PM
Just as it is to drive a drive-right car in the US.
Never said it's illegal to drive a left hand car in the UK
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 12:21:12 PM
Let me clarify... It is illegal for an official rental company to rent out left hand drive cars.
If you do know of such a (legal) company, by all means, please DO let me know. I would love to hire from them!
Thanks for clarifying. That makes more sense.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 18, 2015, 07:29:53 PM
Thanks everyone for your response. I want a left hand steering wheel as I'm thinking of driving out of the U.K.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 07:37:10 PM
Thanks everyone for your response. I want a left hand steering wheel as I'm thinking of driving out of the U.K.
So why not just rent a drive-left car once you get out of the UK?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 18, 2015, 09:17:24 PM
Thanks everyone for your response. I want a left hand steering wheel as I'm thinking of driving out of the U.K.
If you do rent in england I would advise you to check with the rental company if you are insured outside the UK.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on November 19, 2015, 12:25:51 AM
It is not difficult at all to drive a left hand drive car in on the left side. It is however, quite impractical for the reasons you mentioned.
why did I think it was  ;)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 19, 2015, 11:08:47 AM
If you do rent in england I would advise you to check with the rental company if you are insured outside the UK.
Good Point.
Im flying into LHR and driving to Belguim for shabbos and will then spend a few days in london. Hence, I need a car in both countries....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 19, 2015, 11:25:00 AM
Good Point.
Im flying into LHR and driving to Belguim for shabbos and will then spend a few days in london. Hence, I need a car in both countries....
Why not just take a train? Seems easier.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 19, 2015, 11:31:03 AM
Why not just take a train? Seems easier.
All the possible options (besides ferry) have already been discussed with the OP upthread or in the Brussels thread...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 19, 2015, 11:34:46 AM
All the possible options (besides ferry) have already been discussed with the OP upthread or in the Brussels thread...
Sorry, I didn't recall seeing it here. Must have been in the Brussels thread.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on November 19, 2015, 01:24:16 PM
Good Point.
Im flying into LHR and driving to Belguim for shabbos and will then spend a few days in london. Hence, I need a car in both countries....
seems like you'll be in London more then Belgium, why would you want drive more time on the wrong side,
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on November 20, 2015, 09:47:43 AM
Any place in the NY area (prefer Monsey) that has a MiFi for rent to be used in the UK?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on November 22, 2015, 08:19:31 AM
These are the kind of people all over London that people are calling Muslim.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 22, 2015, 08:38:52 AM
These are the kind of people all over London that people are calling Muslim.
If only there was 7-11 in London... :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 22, 2015, 09:08:28 AM
If only there was 7-11 in London... :)
Here it's newsagents and petrol stations...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on November 22, 2015, 12:13:27 PM
If only there was 7-11 in London... :)

There are! they just don't sell slurpees ;(
#Ilford

On a serious note, i can't say I'm amazing at telling them apart but I definitely have had conversations with muslem emes drivers. though i cant say majority...

you have different experience?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 23, 2015, 10:53:15 AM
seems like you'll be in London more then Belgium, why would you want drive more time on the wrong side,
All options (aside for driving) have already been discussed. I want to leave Belgium at night. the last train, flight is at 8. thats to early....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on November 26, 2015, 03:56:10 AM
Heathrow Express site claims that it's 15 min from LHR to Paddington. Is it unrealistic to go into the city see something in a 5 hrs layover? or should I just stay at a lounge for pint-downing exercises?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 26, 2015, 07:54:07 AM
Heathrow Express site claims that it's 15 min from LHR to Paddington. Is it unrealistic to go into the city see something in a 5 hrs layover? or should I just stay at a lounge for pint-downing exercises?
5hrs of pint-downing definitely sounds like more fun 😉
If you go into the city you'll be constantly checking the time and you won't really enjoy yourself IMO.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 26, 2015, 11:17:21 AM
Windsor Castle?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on November 26, 2015, 01:48:24 PM

Heathrow Express site claims that it's 15 min from LHR to Paddington. Is it unrealistic to go into the city see something in a 5 hrs layover? or should I just stay at a lounge for pint-downing exercises?
It's not unrealistic. Just keep in mind you may have to wait up to 15 each way for a train, plus the time it takes to get from Paddington to where you want to go. If you haven't been to London before, I would say go for it. It is rather expensive though
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on November 27, 2015, 11:40:57 AM
Windsor Castle?
What's the best way to get there from LHR? I can't find any direct bus/train.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 27, 2015, 11:45:39 AM
What's the best way to get there from LHR? I can't find any direct bus/train.
UberX?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on November 27, 2015, 11:52:50 AM
UberX?
Any estimates on the Uber fare? Happy birthday BTW :)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on November 28, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
Any estimates on the Uber fare? Happy birthday BTW :)
Check in the Uber app.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 03, 2015, 05:01:48 PM
Dan I knwo you didnt end up getting the food from 1701 since you never made it to london. But did you only order cold food for shabbos? or did you have a way to heat up the food?

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 03, 2015, 05:03:39 PM
Dan I knwo you didnt end up getting the food from 1701 since you never made it to london. But did you only order cold food for shabbos? or did you have a way to heat up the food?
For Friday night I was going to have the hotel warm it up and I ordered shnitzel and deli for shabbos day.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 07, 2015, 03:43:33 PM
Is there anywhere to eat lunch downtown london near all attractions?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
Is there anywhere to eat lunch downtown london near all attractions?
Like a restaurant? DD Sandwiches won't work for you?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 07, 2015, 03:56:42 PM
Like a restaurant? DD Sandwiches won't work for you?
I guess that means we'll pack up lunch.
I am arriving in the morning and leaving the following evening. I want to maximize my time and minimize schlepping luggage around. I understand that its not worth taking a car into the center of london, but is it totally pointless to rent a car just to get to and from airport as well as within stamford hill (shul, restaurants etc)? Also, if i have a car i can keep luggage in the car and go directly from city center to the airport.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 04:03:04 PM
I guess that means we'll pack up lunch.
I am arriving in the morning and leaving the following evening. I want to maximize my time and minimize schlepping luggage around. I understand that its not worth taking a car into the center of london, but is it totally pointless to rent a car just to get to and from airport as well as within stamford hill (shul, restaurants etc)? Also, if i have a car i can keep luggage in the car and go directly from city center to the airport.
I think it's pointless to rent a car if you're just driving in Central London (and Jewish communities). Often traffic will take longer than taking the tube or other public transit. I think keeping luggage in the car would be safe assuming you have a closed trunk and/or the luggage isn't visible. There's always the Left Luggage facilities if you don't need the luggage while in London.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 07, 2015, 04:19:58 PM
Like a restaurant? DD Sandwiches won't work for you?
I just realized bevis marks is in the city.
Anyone else?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 07, 2015, 04:21:01 PM
I think it's pointless to rent a car if you're just driving in Central London (and Jewish communities). Often traffic will take longer than taking the tube or other public transit. I think keeping luggage in the car would be safe assuming you have a closed trunk and/or the luggage isn't visible. There's always the Left Luggage facilities if you don't need the luggage while in London.
I meant that as a reason for taking a car.... dont really love the idea of schelpping luggage on the subway...
How do most ppl get from LHR to Stamford Hill?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 04:24:27 PM
I meant that as a reason for taking a car.... dont really love the idea of schelpping luggage on the subway...
How do most ppl get from LHR to Stamford Hill?
So why not just use the Left Luggage facilities at the airport?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 07, 2015, 04:47:23 PM
So why not just use the Left Luggage facilities at the airport?
Cuz ok staying Overnight in Stamford hill.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 04:48:15 PM
Cuz ok staying Overnight in Stamford hill.
So why don't you just take what you need for overnight in your carry ons?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 07, 2015, 05:34:44 PM
at this point I'm not sure which one is more complicated.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 07, 2015, 05:35:41 PM
at this point I'm not sure which one is more complicated.
Well assuming you can pack your carry on well (and that's not the complicated part) dropping bags at the left luggage facility is quite easy.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 07, 2015, 07:22:41 PM


How do most ppl get from LHR to Stamford Hill?

Car/Car Service or Underground. Underground is not ideal if you're schlepping luggage.

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on December 07, 2015, 07:54:58 PM

Underground is not ideal if you're schlepping luggage.
+1
I did it with hand luggage. Wouldn't do it with regular luggage.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 08, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
since 1701 does not seem to want to be helpful, any other recommendations on a place to order shabbos takeout that will deliver to the andaz?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 08, 2015, 02:09:01 PM
since 1701 does not seem to want to be helpful, any other recommendations on a place to order shabbos takeout that will deliver to the andaz?
Did you call them?
Make an order online?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 08, 2015, 02:16:06 PM
Did you call them?
Make an order online?
I emailed them about what the options were for shabbos meals for delivery to the andaz. They told me I needed to pick up at the Selfridges Department store on thursday because they are closed Xmas day. I mentioned im not getting in until thursday evening they said I could order off the catering menu and have it delivered on thursday to the hotel. However the catering menu is extremely expensive ($112 per person for 2 courses and $145 for 3 courses) and does not really have food that I want on it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 08, 2015, 10:22:43 PM
Did you try http://www.justkosher.co.uk/
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 09, 2015, 09:34:51 AM
Did you try http://www.justkosher.co.uk/
no i will try calling them.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 09, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
+1
I did it with hand luggage. Wouldn't do it with regular luggage.
Did it quite a few times with regular luggage, not that hard.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on December 09, 2015, 06:39:31 PM
Did it quite a few times with regular luggage, not that hard.
Of course it's doable. Just very inconvenient IMO.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 09, 2015, 09:41:48 PM
In the meantime I made a calculation that even with ubering to and from the airport it's still cheaper not to take a car.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 12, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
Flying to London tomorrow,
What's the best cc to use for regular purchases?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 12, 2015, 07:33:53 PM
Flying to London tomorrow,
What's the best cc to use for regular purchases?
A+
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 12, 2015, 07:37:58 PM
A+
what's that?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 12, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
Arrival +
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 12, 2015, 07:50:28 PM
Arrival +
don't have it (not sure why)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 12, 2015, 07:52:34 PM
I'm asking more on the line of exchange rate (unless it's the same across all cards)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on December 13, 2015, 07:43:44 AM
I'm asking more on the line of exchange rate (unless it's the same across all cards)
IMO I would say the CSP is probably your best bet.
Regarding exchange rates, most cards with an annual fee don't charge foreign exchange fees and the exchange rate is the same.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 13, 2015, 08:44:11 AM
A+
Why? It's only chip and pin at unattended terminals.
Except if you say it's the best card for regular purchases in US too.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on December 13, 2015, 09:30:47 AM
and the exchange rate is the same.

-1
Not IME
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 13, 2015, 02:10:54 PM
-1
Not IME
+1, Though VERY VERY similar.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 13, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
I guess I'll test it out, multiple transactions, in the same day, in different card's for the same amount and I'll find out
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on December 13, 2015, 02:53:01 PM
I guess I'll test it out, multiple transactions, in the same day, in different card's for the same amount and I'll find out

Definitely would like to hear results!!
Do you have any Barclay cards to try?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 13, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Definitely would like to hear results!!
Do you have any Barclay cards to try?
ye, upromise
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 13, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
How much can I expect uber to actually cost from heathrow to Stamford hills. The estimator says 42 gpd. Also Will a Jewish car service be cheaper than über? If so, do any of them take credit cards or is it just gpd?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 13, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
I saw on Harrods website that browsing only hours are from 10-11:30. How strictly is that enforced?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on December 13, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
How much can I expect uber to actually cost from heathrow to Stamford hills. The estimator says 42 gpd. Also Will a Jewish car service be cheaper than über? If so, do any of them take credit cards or is it just gpd?
Do u mean GBP?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on December 13, 2015, 06:11:24 PM
How much can I expect uber to actually cost from heathrow to Stamford hills. The estimator says 42 gpd. Also Will a Jewish car service be cheaper than über? If so, do any of them take credit cards or is it just gpd?
Just saw a local add for a company with all heimish drivers.
613cars.co.uk
Info@613cars.co.uk
+44 (0)208202 1515
Pretty sure they take CC
I believe this is the one that Dan had planned on using on his infamous 24hr trip to nowhere. Not sure if it was cheaper than Uber or if he just wanted a driver that he would trust with delivering his luggage to hotel while he goes out with his family....
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 13, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
Not quoting because my Tapatalk won't let me.

@eliraps - What made you believe that that was the company he was going to use?

Re Harrods browsing. They are limited to how many hours they can be open on Sundays so they add a half hour extra for "browsing" meaning that they can't ring anything up during that time. From their website it seems like this is only from 11:30am-12pm.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on December 13, 2015, 07:55:47 PM
I guess I'll test it out, multiple transactions, in the same day, in different card's for the same amount and I'll find out
Be aware though that you'll most likely be charged the rates of the day the transaction posts as opposed to the day it was made.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 13, 2015, 08:42:47 PM
How much can I expect uber to actually cost from heathrow to Stamford hills. The estimator says 42 gpd. Also Will a Jewish car service be cheaper than über? If so, do any of them take credit cards or is it just gpd?
Check out http://www.emess-online.co.uk/WebBookerCC/
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 13, 2015, 10:04:52 PM
Be aware though that you'll most likely be charged the rates of the day the transaction posts as opposed to the day it was made.
That's fine.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 14, 2015, 12:50:20 AM
Be aware though that you'll most likely be charged the rates of the day the transaction posts as opposed to the day it was made.
a good point, but what make you say that, cuz at the end of the day, the charge was made b4. 
That's fine.
why is that, if it's actually the case, then it's not hard prof...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 14, 2015, 01:51:48 AM
Any kosher restaurants or communities midway between London and Manchester to meet ppl?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on December 14, 2015, 01:54:09 AM
Has anyone been to the change of horse guards? Any diff between the reg changing and the four o'clock dismount in ceremony?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on December 14, 2015, 03:54:59 AM
a good point, but what make you say that, cuz at the end of the day, the charge was made b4.
Yes, but AFAIK the final transaction between Merchant and CC processor takes place the day it posts.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on December 14, 2015, 04:21:53 AM
Has anyone been to the change of horse guards? Any diff between the reg changing and the four o'clock dismount in ceremony?
Yes. 1½ yrs ago. IIRC it happens at the same time. The horses come out of a different building/location around the corner from Buckingham Palace, we then followed the horses to Buckingham Palace where the regular Changing of the Guards takes place.
I don't remember what day it was or what time, but that was more or less the procedure.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 15, 2015, 12:24:27 PM
Any ideas for using my Sprint serviced Samsung Note 5 in London? Get intl micro SIM? Keep Sprint service and pay for 7 day intl plan? Only going for 3 days.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 15, 2015, 07:55:21 PM
Any ideas for using my Sprint serviced Samsung Note 5 in London? Get intl micro SIM? Keep Sprint service and pay for 7 day intl plan? Only going for 3 days.
in London now, free unlimited very slow data, included in my sprint plan
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 15, 2015, 08:01:32 PM
in London now, free unlimited very slow data, included in my sprint plan
Wow, my sprint phone is completely dead in London, unable to pick up any network.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Mplace on December 15, 2015, 08:05:31 PM
Wow, my sprint phone is completely dead in London, unable to pick up any network.
you need to call them to 'activate the service' and switch to GSM
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: eliraps on December 17, 2015, 02:59:36 AM
I'm asking more on the line of exchange rate (unless it's the same across all cards)
IMO I would say the CSP is probably your best bet.
Regarding exchange rates, most cards with an annual fee don't charge foreign exchange fees and the exchange rate is the same.
-1
Not IME
I guess I'll test it out, multiple transactions, in the same day, in different card's for the same amount and I'll find out
Definitely would like to hear results!!
Do you have any Barclay cards to try?
ye, upromise

I think this deserves a thread in the CC board. No?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 20, 2015, 07:02:50 PM
So I'm completing my itinerary for next week and I have come to these realizations about the food scene in London: The most upscale restaurant has no service on Sunday's (Bevis Marks), the best steakhouse is hidden behind a cafe (LaFiesta); regular Shabbos food is considered restaurant quality food (too many places to name); "salt beef" is another name for a cold cut dish....and thats only the fleishig places.  >:(

When Milchig is a better choice than fleishig on my first night in town, i'm already not looking forward. Thank goodness its only 3 days. I guess i will subsist on the DD sandwiches during the day and maybe i'll be pleasantly surprised at dinner.

Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on December 20, 2015, 09:29:28 PM
So I'm completing my itinerary for next week and I have come to these realizations about the food scene in London: The most upscale restaurant has no service on Sunday's (Bevis Marks), the best steakhouse is hidden behind a cafe (LaFiesta); regular Shabbos food is considered restaurant quality food (too many places to name); "salt beef" is another name for a cold cut dish....and thats only the fleishig places.  >:(

When Milchig is a better choice than fleishig on my first night in town, i'm already not looking forward. Thank goodness its only 3 days. I guess i will subsist on the DD sandwiches during the day and maybe i'll be pleasantly surprised at dinner.
With that kind of outlook, you might wanna consider canceling your trip.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 20, 2015, 09:38:19 PM
With that kind of outlook, you might wanna consider canceling your trip.
And throw away $900 plus 60k Avios +75k AA?? The food may suck but i still want to see the "old countries".
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on December 20, 2015, 10:01:43 PM
And throw away $900 plus 60k Avios +75k AA?? The food may suck but i still want to see the "old countries".
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on December 21, 2015, 07:38:33 AM
With that kind of outlook, you might wanna consider canceling your trip.
+1
Why don't you just stay home?? I'm sure the food scene is much better where you're at...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 21, 2015, 09:44:16 AM
+1
Why don't you just stay home?? I'm sure the food scene is much better where you're at...
Probably is. Email from Bevis Marks this morning...The last day they are operating is December 24. For the year? Forever? Just gets better by the day. Gonna be a peanut butter and pringles vacation.  ;D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 21, 2015, 10:56:48 AM
Probably is. Email from Bevis Marks this morning...The last day they are operating is December 24. For the year? Forever? Just gets better by the day. Gonna be a peanut butter and pringles vacation.  ;D
i really hope you are kidding. I am getting to london on the 24th and staying in the andaz was couting on it being open.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 21, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
i really hope you are kidding. I am getting to london on the 24th and staying in the andaz was couting on it being open.
I am extremely annoyed, that is one of the main reasons I chose the andaz
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 21, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
i really hope you are kidding. I am getting to london on the 24th and staying in the andaz was couting on it being open.
Why would i kid? Im at the Andaz on the 27th and 28th. These guys upthread think its all a joke too. I have the email to back it up. Call/check before you go.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 21, 2015, 11:53:40 AM
Why would i kid? Im at the Andaz on the 27th and 28th. These guys upthread think its all a joke too. I have the email to back it up. Call/check before you go.
right now im booked in the andaz from 24-30
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 21, 2015, 11:53:50 AM
So I'm completing my itinerary for next week and I have come to these realizations about the food scene in London: The most upscale restaurant has no service on Sunday's (Bevis Marks), the best steakhouse is hidden behind a cafe (LaFiesta); regular Shabbos food is considered restaurant quality food (too many places to name); "salt beef" is another name for a cold cut dish....and thats only the fleishig places.  >:(

When Milchig is a better choice than fleishig on my first night in town, i'm already not looking forward. Thank goodness its only 3 days. I guess i will subsist on the DD sandwiches during the day and maybe i'll be pleasantly surprised at dinner.
If you're coming for the food - don't bother.

I'm not sure what you mean regarding La Fiesta.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 21, 2015, 12:12:20 PM
If you're coming for the food - don't bother.

I'm not sure what you mean regarding La Fiesta.
Maybe i was mistaken and mixed it up with another restaurant. Definitely was warned about the food but we still need to eat. And when i booked Andaz one of the considerations was that Bevis Marks was within walking distance. So its disappointing that the most high end restaurant (per the wiki) is closed. 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on December 21, 2015, 03:08:55 PM
If you're coming for the food - don't bother.

+1000

1/2 hour tube ride from the Moorgate station to GG
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 21, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
+1000

1/2 hour tube ride from the Moorgate station to GG
In other words an hour and a half round trip.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on December 21, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
I'm not going to london for the food but i did book the andaz because it is close to some food for when I dont want to do that 40 minute trip to hendon or GG.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on December 21, 2015, 05:44:50 PM
In other words an hour and a half round trip.
30+30 would equal an hour, the train is every 6? minutes
there are some good restaurants one minute from the GG Station (isola Bella for example... milky i know)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: mochada on December 21, 2015, 05:55:37 PM
there are some good restaurants one minute from the GG Station (isola Bella for example... milky i know)

More like 5-10 min walk
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on December 21, 2015, 06:04:37 PM
More like 5-10 min walk
sorry, thats what i meant
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 21, 2015, 06:40:25 PM
And how long from Andaz to Moorgate?

Isola actually looks like a decent choice but we are not big fans of milchig restaurants.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 21, 2015, 07:00:07 PM
And how long from Andaz to Moorgate?

Isola actually looks like a decent choice but we are not big fans of milchig restaurants.
IB also has/had a decent selection of Thai fusion dishes so you're not limited to milchig. Across from that you have White House which is fleishig fast food, but that can get noisy and crowded. A couple of doors down from White House is Met Su Yan (asian).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on December 21, 2015, 07:39:42 PM
IB also has/had a decent selection of Thai fusion dishes so you're not limited to milchig. Across from that you have White House which is fleishig fast food, but that can get noisy and crowded. A couple of doors down from White House is Met Su Yan (asian).
Thanks.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on December 22, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
And how long from Andaz to Moorgate?

Isola actually looks like a decent choice but we are not big fans of milchig restaurants.
same 5-10 min
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 05, 2016, 12:28:38 AM
Nu, so how was it? I'm heading out that way this Thursday BH.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 11:41:35 AM
Nu, so how was it? I'm heading out that way this Thursday BH.
Slow writing TR but this is short version. Andaz great choice. Right by Liverpool Street Station. Like being next door to Grand Central or Penn Station. Hotel was beautiful. Staff messed something up and refunded entire stay because of their screwup.
Sights need more thorough report. Saw lots in 3 days. Didnt get on the Eye. 3 hour wait was too much. Windsor Castle, Tower of London, Tower Bridge, Parliament Square, Harrods, British Museum, Changing of the Guard were all great.
Took a cab and double-decker bus just to say we did.

Underground is very easy to navigate.

Uber was very inexpensive from Andaz to LHR 37pounds. Got 20% off using Quicksilver too!!

Had a hard time finding D&D sandwiches but finally found them right across from Andaz in Tesco. Used Kosher Near Me App. Very helpful.

Ate at Met Su Yan. Make sure you have reservations. They were nasty about us having to leave by a certain time even though they weren't full. Saw them treat others poorly as well. Portions were very small and overpriced. Some diahes were very tasty and others tastless.

Next night we went to Isola Bella. HUGE portions, a bit pricey too. Tasty Thai dish, avoid gnocchi, fish was ok. Would recommend.

Will work on TR and pics
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2016, 11:55:40 AM
Is Bevis Marks closed?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 12:00:50 PM
Thanks for the mini-TR. Anyone think it should be included in the TR list, or just wait for the full TR?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 12:02:55 PM
Is Bevis Marks closed?
Permanently so per my driver.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 12:03:25 PM
Thanks for the mini-TR. Anyone think it should be included in the TR list, or just wait for the full TR?
Wait for it. i'm working on it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2016, 12:15:59 PM
Permanently so per my driver.
Well now I'm really bummed we didn't make in November.
Takes away most of the Andaz advantage for sure.

What did they do so bad that merited a full refund?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 12:25:32 PM
Well now I'm really bummed we didn't make in November.
Takes away most of the Andaz advantage for sure.

What did they do so bad that merited a full refund?
I didnt ask for any specific refund amount. Here is the long and short of it. It was my wife's birthday. I ordered a kosher birthday cake which i arranged to be picked up by the driver who picked us up at the airport and dropped off at the hotel. Emails back and forth with the hotel about specifics of dropping off and presentation of cake, with flowers which the hotel ordered for 25 pounds for me. It was all to be a surprise for my wife. The trip was a semi surprise which i told her about on Chanukah.

We went to Windsor Castle straight from the airport and our driver dropped off the luggage and cake at the hotel. We showed up later in the afternoon and the check-in clerk had diarrhea of the mouth. He couldnt shut up. He read through the copious notes that were in the system and said "Oh I see there is a cake and flowers here for your room." Surprise ruined.

So i asked him to send up the cake and flowers right away. Went to the room, no cake no flowers.  We took a nap, no cake, no flowers. We went to dinner in Golders Green and returned the flowers appeared, stunning. Asked for the cake again, no cake. Knock on the door, the hotel delivered their own birthday cupcake on a tile with a Happy birthday message. Needless to say, we never saw the cake i ordered.

Contacted the hotel after we checked out and they said, oops its still in the fridge. Full refund, points and cash.

Andaz was very advantageous because of Tube access.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 12:32:53 PM
I didnt ask for any specific refund amount. Here is the long and short of it. It was my wife's birthday. I ordered a kosher birthday cake which i arranged to be picked up by the driver who picked us up at the airport and dropped off at the hotel. Emails back and forth with the hotel about specifics of dropping off and presentation of cake, with flowers which the hotel ordered for 25 pounds for me. It was all to be a surprise for my wife. The trip was a semi surprise which i told her about on Chanukah.

We went to Windsor Castle straight from the airport and our driver dropped off the luggage and cake at the hotel. We showed up later in the afternoon and the check-in clerk had diarrhea of the mouth. He couldnt shut up. He read through the copious notes that were in the system and said "Oh I see there is a cake and flowers here for your room." Surprise ruined.

So i asked him to send up the cake and flowers right away. Went to the room, no cake no flowers.  We took a nap, no cake, no flowers. We went to dinner in Golders Green and returned the flowers appeared, stunning. Asked for the cake again, no cake. Knock on the door, the hotel delivered their own birthday cupcake on a tile with a Happy birthday message. Needless to say, we never saw the cake i ordered.

Contacted the hotel after we checked out and they said, oops its still in the fridge. Full refund, points and cash.

Andaz was very advantageous because of Tube access.
Yikes! That's unfortunate they were so incompetent, though at the end of the day, which would you have preferred: a good surprise or a free stay?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2016, 12:35:46 PM
Sounds like typical Andaz service, bummer.

London needs a PH!

How was going to the castle right from the airport? Would love to see a full TR with costs and suggestions.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 12:46:49 PM
Sounds like typical Andaz service, bummer.

London needs a PH!

How was going to the castle right from the airport? Would love to see a full TR with costs and suggestions.

Dont know about going with kids straight off a flight but it was the smartest thing we did. Its 25 min from LHR vs an hour plus from Andaz.

Im working furiously on TR. Will skip pics for now and just post narrative for the benefit of the tzibur. Going to get my tooth pulled now. You guys pulling teeth here helped relieve some anxiety.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 12:48:14 PM
Yikes! That's unfortunate they were so incompetent, though at the end of the day, which would you have preferred: a good surprise or a free stay?
Trust me...the wife was way happier with free stay.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 12:52:49 PM
Trust me...the wife was way happier with free stay.
As I would have been. Looking forward to the actual TR, though I think including pics as you go is better than doing them later. Don't feel like you have to get it all out today. I'd rather see it in installments over a few days with pictures as you go than to see all the pictures later.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
As I would have been. Looking forward to the actual TR, though I think including pics as you go is better than doing them later. Don't feel like you have to get it all out today. I'd rather see it in installments over a few days with pictures as you go than to see all the pictures later.
As its my first TR I'm still trying to figure out the whole pic hosting. Everything uploaded to shutterfly gonna do the  flickr thingy though.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 12:59:47 PM
As its my first TR I'm still trying to figure out the whole pic hosting. Everything uploaded to shutterfly gonna do the  flickr thingy though.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I just keep the pics on snapfish/shutterfly and post links from there (and skip flikr all together).
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on January 05, 2016, 01:11:34 PM
Here is a short TR:
Day 1
Arrived to LHR at 8:05 AM bought two unlimited travel card and boarded the train at 8:30. Arrived to Manor house station at 9:50 quite a bumpy ride with luggage. By 1:30 we were ready to start the day after lunch.
Took the tube to Tower of london. Walked around the area and part of bridge had just enough time to get some pics before heading to the change of  horse guards at 4:00 PM. it was quite empty and we got a good view. did some souvenir shopping and stopped into this really nice place for English tea. headed down to the London eye, parliament and then headed to Harrods for some browsing and by 9:30 PM we were shot after a full day.
Day 2
the plan was: Go to the enfield cemetery, make it at 11:00 to the change of horse guards ( with the queen in residence they use 30 horses), british museum, have lunch pack up and leave to airport.
Here is how it actually panned out.
Started the day by going to the Cemetery in Enfield at about 9:20. Bought Two more unlimited travel cards. Mistake one- non peak travel starts at 9:30, could have waited ten min and get discounted cards) arrived to Enfield and wanted to take the bus to the cemetery. Bus was running late after fifteen minutes of waiting decided to uber round trip. It cost about 8 GBP. By that time it was 10:30 and we wanted to make the 11:30 change of guards at Buckingham palace. That would have been cutting it close since the train ride back to seven sisters or Stamford hill is about 15-20 min and from there to Buckingham is another 15-20 minutes. Mistake two: overground in London dont run every few minutes like the underground. Arriving to the station we realized the train runs on half hour intervals and we just missed one. We ubered to Seven sister station (about 15 GBP) caught the Victorian line to Green park and walked to the palace. We made it just in time!
Lesson learned: sometimes its worth ubering instead of relying solely on public transport
After the change of guards we headed to palace museum but ended just browsing the gift shop. We then went to Russel square and walked the ten minute walk to the British museum. The museum was amazing! no they didnt have a jewish exhibit out now. we covered the must do's and then headed back to stamford hill for lunch and packing up. Since we already had the unlimited passes, we just had to take the underground to LHR.
All in all i felt like we accomplished the must do's in london.











Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 01:22:21 PM
Here is a short TR:
Day 1
Arrived to LHR at 8:05 AM bought two unlimited travel card and boarded the train at 8:30. Arrived to Manor house station at 9:50 quite a bumpy ride with luggage. By 1:30 we were ready to start the day after lunch.
Took the tube to Tower of london. Walked around the area and part of bridge had just enough time to get some pics before heading to the change of  horse guards at 4:00 PM. it was quite empty and we got a good view. did some souvenir shopping and stopped into this really nice place for English tea. headed down to the London eye, parliament and then headed to Harrods for some browsing and by 9:30 PM we were shot after a full day.
Day 2
the plan was: Go to the enfield cemetery, make it at 11:00 to the change of horse guards ( with the queen in residence they use 30 horses), british museum, have lunch pack up and leave to airport.
Here is how it actually panned out.
Started the day by going to the Cemetery in Enfield at about 9:20. Bought Two more unlimited travel cards. Mistake one- non peak travel starts at 9:30, could have waited ten min and get discounted cards) arrived to Enfield and wanted to take the bus to the cemetery. Bus was running late after fifteen minutes of waiting decided to uber round trip. It cost about 8 GBP. By that time it was 10:30 and we wanted to make the 11:30 change of guards at Buckingham palace. That would have been cutting it close since the train ride back to seven sisters or Stamford hill is about 15-20 min and from there to Buckingham is another 15-20 minutes. Mistake two: overground in London dont run every few minutes like the underground. Arriving to the station we realized the train runs on half hour intervals and we just missed one. We ubered to Seven sister station (about 15 GBP) caught the Victorian line to Green park and walked to the palace. We made it just in time!
Lesson learned: sometimes its worth ubering instead of relying solely on public transport
After the change of guards we headed to palace museum but ended just browsing the gift shop. We then went to Russel square and walked the ten minute walk to the British museum. The museum was amazing! no they didnt have a jewish exhibit out now. we covered the must do's and then headed back to stamford hill for lunch and packing up. Since we already had the unlimited passes, we just had to take the underground to LHR.
All in all i felt like we accomplished the must do's in london.
Sounds like a rushed  2nd day, but an overall nice time.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on January 05, 2016, 01:32:28 PM
I also had some interesting experiences at the andaz. I had booked a non refundable rate using my citi prestige 4th night free and used a DSU. I specifically booked the andaz because of bevis marks. When I found out that it closed I tried to convince the hotel to let me cancel so I could re-book at a hotel in a better location. They vehemently refused after going back and forth with the manager I gave up. The manager tried to make me happy by upgrading us to ther largest suite which actually was really nice and was convenient for putting our baby to sleep and not waking her up.
We did have some other slight issues with the hotel as well. The first issue which was relatively minor: Their AC units are very strange in that you can only set them on a range. Basically they have a setting called 0 which i guess is average and you can move it up or down 3 degrees celcius from there. When we got into the room it wa sbasolutely freezing cold set at 0 so we moved it all the way up to +3 which after a while brought the suite to a more comfortable level. On the 4th day of our stay we came back to the room in the evening to put our daughter to sleep and the housekeeping had moved the AC all the way down to -3. It was literally like being in a freezer.

The second issue which to me is a bigger issue. One day we got a late start and left our room around 11, my wife wanted to go shop at a store near by before we went out to our activites for the day. She went and bought something and instead of carrying it around all day she ran back to put it in our room. When she got there the door to our room was left open. Someone (presumably house keeping) had come and pulled out the lock to keep the door open but no one was in or around the room. To me this is a big security issue. I have a large laptop that wouldnt fit in the safe so it was out in the room. In general i wasnt too worried about housekeeping stealing things like that. But to leave the room wide open so anyone could go in is a big issue.

When I got back to the hotel that night I spoke to a manager and told her I didnt want compensation but that I really thought this was not acceptable and was something they should fix. She insisted on booking us a cab to the airport for the next day on the hotel.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 01:39:27 PM
I also had some interesting experiences at the andaz.
Oy, not good. FWIW the Park Tower Knightsbridge also messed up with us and fixed the problem. Could it be a London thing more than specifically an Andaz thing? The Andaz Maui (at least during our stay) didn't have any issues.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on January 05, 2016, 01:50:53 PM
Oy, not good. FWIW the Park Tower Knightsbridge also messed up with us and fixed the problem. Could it be a London thing more than specifically an Andaz thing? The Andaz Maui (at least during our stay) didn't have any issues.
FTFY
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
FTFY
Thanks
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2016, 01:52:41 PM
myb, would love to see a TR from you as well!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on January 05, 2016, 01:58:30 PM
myb, would love to see a TR from you as well!
Will try and do a condensed one, didnt really take pictures and kind of just planned things as we went. But if you have any questions I am more than happy to answer.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2016, 02:11:13 PM
Don't need pics for a TR. That's merely the icing. Though pics of the room or the room number would be helpful if you have em.

Just what you did, what you did wrong, what you ate, what you missed, etc.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on January 05, 2016, 02:32:41 PM
Don't need pics for a TR. That's merely the icing. Though pics of the room or the room number would be helpful if you have em.

Just what you did, what you did wrong, what you ate, what you missed, etc.
I believe it was room 104, I also believe it was what they called their andaz larger suite. (https://essentialhotels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Andaz-Liverpool-Street-Andaz-Large-Suite21.jpg?w=890) that middle room is a dressing/closet room and it has a large bathroom attached which included a large soaking tub and separate shower.the bedroom is much larger than it looks in the pic. On the left there was a round dining table with 4 chairs and then there was a desk along the left wall and past the bed there was like a loungin chair with lots of empty space.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 05, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
Going for a few days this summer. Need a minyan for kaddish. Was thinking about staying at Hyatt Regency near the Western Marble Arch Synagogue. Does anyone know anything about that hotel? Or is there another hotel near minyan?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 05, 2016, 10:31:29 PM
 hvaces42 - Who was your driver?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 10:31:35 PM
Going for a few days this summer. Need a minyan for kaddish. Was thinking about staying at Hyatt Regency near the Western Marble Arch Synagogue. Does anyone know anything about that hotel? Or is there another hotel near minyan?
The Marriott Marble Arch is nearby.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 11:08:17 PM
hvaces42 - Who was your driver?
Shloimi Rokach
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
The Marriott Marble Arch is nearby.
Except reports indicate you're in Londonistan if you stay there.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 11:11:21 PM
Except reports indicate you're in Londonistan if you stay there.
It's only a few blocks from the Hyatt.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 05, 2016, 11:13:29 PM
It's only a few blocks from the Hyatt.
Maybe Hyatt Regency not Andaz.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2016, 11:16:08 PM
Maybe Hyatt Regency not Andaz.
True, but Andaz isn't near the Marble Arch Shul. Also we stayed in Knightsbridge. If anywhere in London is supposed to have a high concentration of Muslims Knightsbridge is a top contender.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 05, 2016, 11:19:48 PM
Shloimi Rokach
Thanks. Do you have contact info?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 06, 2016, 01:02:38 AM
Going for a few days this summer. Need a minyan for kaddish. Was thinking about staying at Hyatt Regency near the Western Marble Arch Synagogue. Does anyone know anything about that hotel? Or is there another hotel near minyan?
What would you like to know. We were there three and a half years ago. It's a Hyatt regency, not a PH. Rooms are pretty tired (unless they've been updated). Great location for marble Arch synagogue
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 06, 2016, 01:06:38 AM
What would you like to know. We were there three and a half years ago. It's a Hyatt regency, not a PH. Rooms are pretty tired (unless they've been updated). Great location for marble Arch synagogue
Website says undergoing renovation and should be completed March 2016. Is it close(walk-able) to Marble Arch Synagogue? How is the food situation near there? Any other hotels near shuls?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 06, 2016, 01:09:08 AM
Website says undergoing renovation and should be completed March 2016. Is it close(walk-able) to Marble Arch Synagogue? How is the food situation near there? Any other hotels near shuls?
It's super walkable to MA shul.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 06, 2016, 01:12:07 AM
Website says undergoing renovation and should be completed March 2016. Is it close(walk-able) to Marble Arch Synagogue? How is the food situation near there? Any other hotels near shuls?
It's a3 minute walk. No food in the area (other than the sandwiches mentioned above).
There are a couple of other hotels in the area there. Other than that I believe you'd have to stay in Golders green or the other Jewish neighborhood
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 06, 2016, 01:20:30 AM
or the other Jewish neighborhood
Which is? (I must confess that I haven't read through this thread yet but saw it bumped up recently)
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 06, 2016, 01:23:54 AM
Which is? (I must confess that I haven't read through this thread yet but saw it bumped up recently)
Stamford Hill, Edgware, Hendon, etc.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on January 06, 2016, 08:24:41 AM
Does Marble Arch have a minyan thrice daily?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 06, 2016, 09:51:55 AM
Does Marble Arch have a minyan thrice daily?
IIRC yes
ETA, per their website, they do
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on January 06, 2016, 10:02:45 AM
True, but Andaz isn't near the Marble Arch Shul. Also we stayed in Knightsbridge. If anywhere in London is supposed to have a high concentration of Muslims Knightsbridge is a top contender.
higher class if there is such a thing, finsbury park it ain't
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on January 06, 2016, 12:27:02 PM
It's a3 minute walk. No food in the area (other than the sandwiches mentioned above).
There are a couple of other hotels in the area there. Other than that I believe you'd have to stay in Golders green or the other Jewish neighborhood

Reuben's and Selfridges are close. John Lewis in Oxford Street and Waitrose in Edgware Road also have reasonable kosher sections.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 06, 2016, 11:12:08 PM
Is there anywhere to buy kosher wine in town (near Marble Arch)? Landing Friday.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 06, 2016, 11:14:41 PM
Where are you getting Shabbos food from?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 06, 2016, 11:21:54 PM
Where are you getting Shabbos food from?

1701 - but the menu just says "House Red Wine £25.00". I ordered the grape juice just in case, but for wine I'd really like to have my own selection, especially at that price.

 I'd bring, but rather go with carry on. If I can't find a place I might just bring a checked bag - but I don't have too much extra time upon landing before Matt's tour.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 06, 2016, 11:23:49 PM
They can get any wine, just email/call them.

Now, who wants to do me a favor and use my credit up there  ;D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 06, 2016, 11:23:57 PM
1701 - but the menu just says "House Red Wine £25.00". I ordered the grape juice just in case, but for wine I'd really like to have my own selection, especially at that price.

 I'd bring, but rather go with carry on. If I can't find a place I might just bring a checked bag - but I don't have too much extra time upon landing before Matt's tour.
see upthread someone stated that they got tiny grape juice bottle so make sure u have extra from somewhere.

Hope to have my TR done this weekend.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 06, 2016, 11:38:30 PM

see upthread someone stated that they got tiny grape juice bottle so make sure u have extra from somewhere.

Hope to have my TR done this weekend.

I ordered the 650 ml bottle.

They also offer 187 ml.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on January 07, 2016, 12:08:29 AM
Is there anywhere to buy kosher wine in town (near Marble Arch)? Landing Friday.

Sure, Selfridges stock it. Very close.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 07, 2016, 12:16:39 AM

Sure, Selfridges stock it. Very close.

Great! Thanks.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 07, 2016, 03:35:05 AM
Great! Thanks.

Try http://kosherwines.co.uk (http://kosherwines.co.uk), and ask them how much they would charge for delivery. Probably best to call them.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 09, 2016, 07:11:31 PM
Picked up kosher wine (Psagot) from duty free in JFK T7.

Selfridges had as well, in the basement, about 6 or 7 choices.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 19, 2016, 06:56:26 PM
Seems like Bevis Marks is closed for good. Big shame, as it was one of the only worthwhile places around here...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 19, 2016, 06:58:16 PM
Seems like Bevis Marks is closed for good. Big shame, as it was one of the only worthwhile places around here...
Git morgen!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on January 19, 2016, 07:02:16 PM
Seems like Bevis Marks is closed for good. Big shame, as it was one of the only worthwhile places around here...
Taking about the restaurant?? Waaay over priced and too intimate (but the waiters don't know that it's supposed to be that way). 
Reubens is your best (only) shot for food.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 19, 2016, 07:06:00 PM
Taking about the restaurant?? Waaay over priced and too intimate (but the waiters don't know that it's supposed to be that way). 
Reubens is your best (only) shot for food.
Ruebens menu reads like a take out place in Brooklyn cholent, gefilte fish, kishka. Thats not restaurant food.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on January 19, 2016, 07:09:21 PM
Ruebens menu reads like a take out place in Brooklyn cholent, gefilte fish, kishka. Thats not restaurant food.
Go downstairs
...although Brooklyn cholent is amazing
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 19, 2016, 07:13:39 PM
Taking about the restaurant?? Waaay over priced and too intimate (but the waiters don't know that it's supposed to be that way). 
Reubens is your best (only) shot for food.
Overpriced compared to NY, or other London places? It wasn't perfect, but probably the best all round experience (food, ambiance etc).

There are plenty of better places than Reubens, between Golders Green, Hendon and Edgware.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 19, 2016, 07:16:46 PM
Ruebens menu reads like a take out place in Brooklyn cholent, gefilte fish, kishka. Thats not restaurant food.
I'm not sure why, but it's an English thing that any of the older kosher restaurants had to have the Jewish "staples", matzah ball soup, chopped liver and gefilte fish. Probably because the non religious people who came to eat kosher occasionally expected that from a kosher establishment.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 19, 2016, 07:19:42 PM
Overpriced compared to NY, or other London establishments. It wasn't perfect, but probably the best all round experience (food, ambiance etc).

There are plenty of better places than Reubens, between Golders Green, Hendon and Edgware.
Given the ease of the underground  those are good options.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on January 19, 2016, 07:24:51 PM


Overpriced compared to NY, or other London places? It wasn't perfect, but probably the best all round experience (food, ambiance etc).

There are plenty of better places than Reubens, between Golders Green, Hendon and Edgware.

Even compared to London prices.

Although there MAY be some better places in Jewish London, I think the op was referring to London proper. Overall Reubens downstairs is great. Seriously great.

I'm not sure why, but it's an English thing that any of the older kosher restaurants had to have the Jewish "staples", matzah ball soup, chopped liver and gefilte fish. Probably because the non religious people who came to eat kosher occasionally expected that from a kosher establishment.

Yep, like evey Kosher (or ~Kosher) delicatessen. But again, the key is downstairs.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 19, 2016, 07:29:28 PM

Even compared to London prices.

Although there MAY be some better places in Jewish London, I think the op was referring to London proper. Overall Reubens downstairs is great. Seriously great.

Yep, like evey Kosher (or ~Kosher) delicatessen. But again, the key is downstairs.
Downstairs feels like some bubby's dining room that hasn't been cleaned in fifty years.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 19, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
Would you believe there was an op-ed piece in the NY Daily News this week about the death of the jewish delicatessen. :o

Of course they meant the treif ones in NY like the Stage and Carnegie Deli
 Maybe i should direct them to London to get authentic Pastrami on rye...or "salt beef" as you guys call corned beef. ;D
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on January 19, 2016, 07:36:17 PM
Downstairs feels like some bubby's dining room that hasn't been cleaned in fifty years.
Eh, no Bubby can pull off a rack of baby lamb chops or a Beef Wellington like Reubens downstairs.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on January 19, 2016, 07:42:31 PM
Enough said...
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 19, 2016, 07:43:31 PM
Eh, no Bubby can pull off a rack of baby lamb chops or a Beef Wellington like Reubens downstairs.
You know i never got that far down their menu. When you have "egg and onion" as an appetizer you lost me.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 20, 2016, 01:28:27 AM

You know i never got that far down their menu. When you have "egg and onion" as an appetizer you lost me.

I think egg and onion is England's version of egg salad.

It was one of the takeout options for 1701 except that was "caramelized onion and egg"

Was surprised when it turned out to be egg salad
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 20, 2016, 01:29:33 AM
We REALLY liked Zest this time around. With the loss of a great meat place, at least there was a very good dairy place.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on January 25, 2016, 05:13:18 PM
Kidzania 'adult-entry' for only 1 penny (down from £18/$26) with purchase of 'child ticket'!
Valid on dates through March 24th 2016.

http://www.littlebird.co.uk/-Kidzania?source=webgains&siteid=173389
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 27, 2016, 04:15:54 AM
Arrive into LGW at 11 AM on March 30 and fly out of STN at 6PM same day. is there enough time to do anything? if so, what?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on January 27, 2016, 12:06:34 PM
Arrive into LGW at 11 AM on March 30 and fly out of STN at 6PM same day. is there enough time to do anything? if so, what?
Maybe just about enough time to pick up some kosher food in Stamford Hill.
Other than that, I don't think you have enough time to do anything interesting.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 27, 2016, 12:11:45 PM
Maybe just about enough time to pick up some kosher food in Stamford Hill.
Other than that, I don't think you have enough time to do anything interesting.
Or Golders Green. If you're taking the trip by car then take the scenic route through London so you can at least see some of the sights (from the car). You have about 3+ hours for a 2 hour trip. 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 28, 2016, 02:44:19 PM
Maybe just about enough time to pick up some kosher food in Stamford Hill.
Other than that, I don't think you have enough time to do anything interesting.
Or Golders Green. If you're taking the trip by car then take the scenic route through London so you can at least see some of the sights (from the car). You have about 3+ hours for a 2 hour trip. 
I am using public transportation.
IMO it is not worth the schlepp just for food. Should I walk around the city? If so, which sites do I hit?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 28, 2016, 06:30:37 PM
I am using public transportation.
IMO it is not worth the schlepp just for food. Should I walk around the city? If so, which sites do I hit?
Depends what you're interested in.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 28, 2016, 07:16:58 PM
Depends what you're interested in.
If I am understanding correctly I only have about 4 hours to spend....
I would like to see what is considered unique about London, preferably a landmark or two. I am not interested in clubbing (it's daytime anyways), showbiz, or art. Culture is nice however its too short of a time. I am thinking I would want to do sightseeing.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 28, 2016, 07:31:20 PM
If I am understanding correctly I only have about 4 hours to spend....
I would like to see what is considered unique about London, preferably a landmark or two. I am not interested in clubbing (it's daytime anyways), showbiz, or art. Culture is nice however its too short of a time. I am thinking I would want to do sightseeing.
Parliament square, Big Ben, Westminster Abbey, the London Eye are all in the same area. You can see them all with one stop. Buckingham Palace is not too far either. You wont have time to see Tower of London or the British Museum or Library.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 29, 2016, 01:37:49 AM
Parliament square, Big Ben, Westminster Abbey, the London Eye are all in the same area. You can see them all with one stop. Buckingham Palace is not too far either. You wont have time to see Tower of London or the British Museum or Library.
Is one able to tour the inside of buckingham palace?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on January 29, 2016, 07:24:01 AM
Is one able to tour the inside of buckingham palace?
IiRC summer only
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 31, 2016, 12:52:25 PM
IiRC summer only
I am not much of a church guy so I guess I will do:
London Eye
Big Ben
Buckingham Palace
Picadilly Circus
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on January 31, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
Arrive into LGW at 11 AM on March 30 and fly out of STN at 6PM same day. is there enough time to do anything? if so, what?
If you like expensive cars, go to the roads behind Harrods, where people go to show off their cars. It's just not particularly close to anything else.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 31, 2016, 02:07:21 PM
If you like expensive cars, go to the roads behind Harrods, where people go to show off their cars. It's just not particularly close to anything else.
Thanks....
Based on the wiki Rueben's is the only kosher joint in London City. Is that accurate?

ETA: Why doesn't their menus list pricing?  :-\
http://www.reubensrestaurant.co.uk/images/menus/takeaway-menu.pdf
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 31, 2016, 02:50:54 PM


Thanks....
Based on the wiki Rueben's is the only kosher joint in London City. Is that accurate?

That is unfortunately correct.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: yuguy on February 10, 2016, 03:51:31 PM
Last mention of Hilton in this thread was Oct. 2013--top London's in the city center using Hilton points aside from the Hilton Park Lane?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 01, 2016, 07:27:18 PM
I need some help in deciding which hotel to stay in during my 1 night stopover in London.  I am landing in LGW at 4pm and leaving LHR the next day at 3:15pm.  Is there any hotel that is not far from either airports and is also near kosher food? 
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 01, 2016, 09:03:52 PM
I need some help in deciding which hotel to stay in during my 1 night stopover in London.  I am landing in LGW at 4pm and leaving LHR the next day at 3:15pm.  Is there any hotel that is not far from either airports and is also near kosher food?
Why not stay in central London? Else you can stay near a store selling DD sandwiches.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 01, 2016, 10:31:18 PM
Why not stay in central London? Else you can stay near a store selling DD sandwiches.

Wouldn't that be a bloody fortune and would not have access to kosher food?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 02, 2016, 01:45:29 AM
Wouldn't that be a bloody fortune and would not have access to kosher food?
Use a free night or points. DD sandwiches are all over central London.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 02, 2016, 03:35:30 AM
Wouldn't that be a bloody fortune and would not have access to kosher food?
There is nothing close to the airport with kosher food.

If food is important, your best bet is to stay at one of the Holiday Inns near Golders Green/Finchley, where you'll have plenty of options.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 02, 2016, 01:59:01 PM

There is nothing close to the airport with kosher food.

If food is important, your best bet is to stay at one of the Holiday Inns near Golders Green/Finchley, where you'll have plenty of options.

Thank you. I may do that. Any recommendation as to transportation from LGW to Golders Green for a family with luggage?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on March 02, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
Thank you. I may do that. Any recommendation as to transportation from LGW to Golders Green for a family with luggage?
Gatwick Express to victoria station and a cab/car service from there
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 02, 2016, 02:18:33 PM
Thank you. I may do that. Any recommendation as to transportation from LGW to Golders Green for a family with luggage?
Your best bet would be a local car service or Heimishe driver, unless you're interested in schlepping on trains.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 02, 2016, 02:20:30 PM
Your best bet would be a local car service or Heimishe driver, unless you're interested in schlepping on trains.
Uber was very affordable. Especially with 20% off from Capital One quicksilver.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 02, 2016, 02:22:11 PM
Thank you. I may do that. Any recommendation as to transportation from LGW to Golders Green for a family with luggage?
Do you intend to tour the city? I'd think that staying in central London and eating DD sandwiches is a lot better for touring on a short stay. You'd be a lot closer to public transit to/from LGW/LHR, not to mention all the tourist sites. Staying in GG will only get you close to restaurants. Think of the time you'll spend getting from GG to central London and back before going back to the airport.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 02, 2016, 02:22:20 PM
Uber was very affordable. Especially with 20% off from Capital One quicksilver.
Yes, but I assume he would have to get an UberXL which would be more.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ariIs on March 02, 2016, 04:30:09 PM
Hi all,
I'm planning a week-long vacation in UK in July - any advice on where to stay if we have 3 kids (under 10)?
Rent a place on airbnb close to GG for food proximity?
I've got some SPG points - any good SPG options in London or UK that's good for a family?

Also, where else in the UK other than London would you recommend seeing with kids?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 02, 2016, 04:49:14 PM
Hi all,
I'm planning a week-long vacation in UK in July - any advice on where to stay if we have 3 kids (under 10)?
Rent a place on airbnb close to GG for food proximity?
I've got some SPG points - any good SPG options in London or UK that's good for a family?

Also, where else in the UK other than London would you recommend seeing with kids?
I don't think you can hope to get an answer to your questions. You're basically asking for someone to plan your whole trip. Why not do some research into places you may want to visit, lodging options, and ask more detailed questions in hopes of getting better answers?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ariIs on March 02, 2016, 04:56:24 PM
I don't think you can hope to get an answer to your questions. You're basically asking for someone to plan your whole trip. Why not do some research into places you may want to visit, lodging options, and ask more detailed questions in hopes of getting better answers?

Not exactly. I'd like to see if anyone has done something similar and has tips.
Most of the TRs I see for London are either couples, or with a baby. Traveling with kids is different - I can't just take a random hotel room, and the places to visit are different, so I was wondering if anyone has done this already - which is the point of this forum.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 02, 2016, 04:59:14 PM
Not exactly. I'd like to see if anyone has done something similar and has tips.
Most of the TRs I see for London are either couples, or with a baby. Traveling with kids is different - I can't just take a random hotel room, and the places to visit are different, so I was wondering if anyone has done this already - which is the point of this forum.
My point is asking too many questions in one post means more are likely to go unanswered. For example, how would anyone besides you and your SO know where else in the UK you'd like to go? I haven't heard of anyplace (in the UK) that's kid unfriendly. It's a large place: Belfast, Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Surrey, etc all offer different sights and activities for people of all ages, including kids.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 02, 2016, 05:05:33 PM
Start with the places in the Wiki.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 03, 2016, 07:43:41 PM
Aloft worth 10000 spg points?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 03, 2016, 07:45:23 PM
Aloft worth 10000 spg points?
Doubt it
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 03, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
Doubt it
Lowest I found with spg is by Heathrow and this is second lowest.
I'm checking on the spg site, maybe I'm doing something wrong
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 03, 2016, 07:58:56 PM
If you're going to be staying downtown, you'll be spending a lot of time travelling to GG for food. London IMO is an activity city where you live off (the surprisingly yummy) DD Sandwiches that are everywhere. It's not so k'dai to go back and forth to GG twice a day.

Do people actually eat 3 meals of DD sandwiches? Just wondering how realistic it is for me and my family.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 03, 2016, 08:03:42 PM
Do people actually eat 3 meals of DD sandwiches? Just wondering how realistic it is for me and my family.
Just warning you. Traveling with kids after a long day of touring back to your hotel by underground can be ultra tiring. Very strenuous
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 03, 2016, 08:21:03 PM
Do people actually eat 3 meals of DD sandwiches? Just wondering how realistic it is for me and my family.
Not realistic at all. Those sandwiches are literally for lunch or emergency use only. Not to substitute regular meals. Have you figured out where you are staying? We ate dinner at restaurants. You can buy rolls, cakes, danishes and other breakfast staples in GG or other neighborhoods and use DD for lunch.

Just warning you. Traveling with kids after a long day of touring back to your hotel by underground can be ultra tiring. Very strenuous
Underground at times can be very strenuous. We did it without kids and it was ok. But its not NYC subways if thats what youre expecting. It is faster paced organized chaos.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 03, 2016, 08:22:24 PM
Lowest I found with spg is by Heathrow and this is second lowest.
I'm checking on the spg site, maybe I'm doing something wrong
Do you have any other currencies? How Long are you staying? Heathrow is obviously not central to any tourist sites. It is close to Windsor Castle though.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 03, 2016, 10:20:21 PM
Not realistic at all. Those sandwiches are literally for lunch or emergency use only. Not to substitute regular meals. Have you figured out where you are staying? We ate dinner at restaurants. You can buy rolls, cakes, danishes and other breakfast staples in GG or other neighborhoods and use DD for lunch.
Underground at times can be very strenuous. We did it without kids and it was ok. But its not NYC subways if thats what youre expecting. It is faster paced organized chaos.

Thank you.  I am considering staying at the Holiday Inn in GG because of food, particularly the day after Pesach, when the stores that normally carry DD may not have restocked yet.  I understand that visiting the Mekoimois Hakdoshim  :P may not work out being that my flight leaves at 3:15PM to LHR. I would have to travel back to my hotel in GG and then leave ample time for traveling and navigating LHR.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 03, 2016, 10:25:54 PM
DD didnt restock over Christmas week when we were there. I wouldnt count on them restocking after pesach. And anything you find may be חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח etc.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 03, 2016, 11:12:17 PM
DD didnt restock over Christmas week when we were there. I wouldnt count on them restocking after pesach. And anything you find may be חמץ שעבר עליו הפסח etc.
I wouldn't count on it either the day after Pesach. But within a week they should be back to normal I'd assume.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 04, 2016, 02:10:05 AM
Do you have any other currencies? How Long are you staying? Heathrow is obviously not central to any tourist sites. It is close to Windsor Castle though.
My parents live in London.  I am looking to get away from GG with DW for a night or 2 over pesach bein haz
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 04, 2016, 02:17:26 AM



Underground at times can be very strenuous. We did it without kids and it was ok. But its not NYC subways if thats what youre expecting. It is faster paced organized chaos.

I find it to be much more strenuous than the subway. Way more people and much narrower platforms. That is during rush hour. Also,  I think they go much lower in the ground (if I'm not mistaken, at some station on the northern line, it is 1 mile deep) so the air is so much thicker.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 04, 2016, 09:09:22 AM
Do people actually eat 3 meals of DD sandwiches? Just wondering how realistic it is for me and my family.
I went with just DW as newlyweds. We stayed in town, and didn't like the overpriced Rueben's, so we had no problem with fruit (and cereal IIRC) for breakfast and then a dairy DD for lunch and a meat DD for dinner. Might be different with a family, although I would imagine kids would be even more chill with sandwiches rather than going out to a restaurant.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 04, 2016, 10:46:54 AM
I went with just DW as newlyweds. We stayed in town, and didn't like the overpriced Rueben's, so we had no problem with fruit (and cereal IIRC) for breakfast and then a dairy DD for lunch and a meat DD for dinner. Might be different with a family, although I would imagine kids would be even more chill with sandwiches rather than going out to a restaurant.

True, but the fact that I will be in London the day after Pesach makes it unlikely (from what I read) that there were will be availability of DD sandwiches.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 04, 2016, 11:04:55 AM


True, but the fact that I will be in London the day after Pesach makes it unlikely (from what I read) that there were will be availability of DD sandwiches.

The day after Pesach you'll be hard pressed to find fresh kosher food outside of the Jewish areas. Your best bet would be to buy locally to take along.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 04, 2016, 11:05:28 AM
My parents live in London.  I am looking to get away from GG with DW for a night or 2 over pesach bein haz
The Normandie doesn't belong to any loyalty programs?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 04, 2016, 11:19:36 AM
Gatwick Express to victoria station and a cab/car service from there

Per their website, the Gatwick express is not working on that particular weekend (May 1) due to engineering work.  What's my next best option for travel from Gatwick to GG?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 04, 2016, 11:20:43 AM
Per their website, the Gatwick express is not working on that particular weekend (May 1) due to engineering work.  What's my next best option for travel from Gatwick to GG?
That's unfortunate. UberX?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 04, 2016, 11:37:14 AM
That's unfortunate. UberX?

I would need Uber XL (family of 5) with a cost estimate for uberXL: £129-173  :-\
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Dawie on March 04, 2016, 12:52:51 PM
The Normandie doesn't belong to any loyalty programs?
ROFL ;D
maybe the carlton
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on March 04, 2016, 02:03:17 PM
The Normandie doesn't belong to any loyalty programs?
Omg is that place still open
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 05, 2016, 12:02:26 PM
Omg is that place still open
My brother went last week. They supposedly re-did all the carpet. I wonder if you remember what it looked like
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on March 05, 2016, 12:09:18 PM
I would need Uber XL (family of 5) with a cost estimate for uberXL: £129-173  :-\

No. Much better (and cheaper) to take Thameslink ( http://www.thameslinkrailway.com ) train direct from Gatwick to West Hampstead or Hendon, and minicab from there. Alternalively call Meadway cars ( http://www.meadway.com ) and ask them the cost for a minicab direct. I find them reliable.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 05, 2016, 07:51:02 PM
No. Much better (and cheaper) to take Thameslink ( http://www.thameslinkrailway.com ) train direct from Gatwick to West Hampstead or Hendon, and minicab from there. Alternalively call Meadway cars ( http://www.meadway.com ) and ask them the cost for a minicab direct. I find them reliable.

Thanks. Meadway was 109 GBP.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 05, 2016, 07:56:35 PM
Thanks. Meadway was 109 GBP.
Try Emess +442088094444
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on March 05, 2016, 07:58:01 PM
The Normandie doesn't belong to any loyalty programs?
As a plat I got two extra doughnuts
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 05, 2016, 08:08:07 PM
As a plat I got two extra doughnuts
"Now, run off..."


Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 05, 2016, 09:30:21 PM

Try Emess +442088094444

Thanks. A bit cheaper at 98 GBP.
Title: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 05, 2016, 10:47:27 PM
Is 3 and 1/2 hours sufficient time from LGW to LHR on a Sunday afternon using a private transfer?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 05, 2016, 11:16:56 PM
Is 3 and 1/2 hours sufficient time from LGW to LHR on a Sunday afternon using a private transfer?
Should be. Are you checking bags and are you a UK citizen?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 05, 2016, 11:32:59 PM
Should be. Are you checking bags and are you a UK citizen?

Checking bags and non-EU citizen.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on March 05, 2016, 11:53:52 PM
Is 3 and 1/2 hours sufficient time from LGW to LHR on a Sunday afternon using a private transfer?
I would say doable but close.
Flying from LGW to EU or outside of EU?
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 05, 2016, 11:56:06 PM

I would say doable but close.
Flying from LGW to EU or outside of EU?

Landing in LGW and have flight to JFK from LHR.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on March 06, 2016, 12:25:20 AM
Landing in LGW and have flight to JFK from LHR.
If it takes you an hour to get out of LGW and 45 minutes to get to LHR, you'll be left with 1:45 to your flight. Should make it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on March 06, 2016, 12:43:52 AM
"Now, run off..."


Lmao
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 06, 2016, 01:12:36 AM
If it takes you an hour to get out of LGW and 45 minutes to get to LHR, you'll be left with 1:45 to your flight. Should make it.
Sunday afternoon..? What date and time? If there is a football game on around London it can get hectic
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 06, 2016, 01:28:51 AM
Checking bags and non-EU citizen.
Yeah, it's doable, but it could be tight if everything doesn't go well.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 06, 2016, 07:08:26 AM

Sunday afternoon..? What date and time? If there is a football game on around London it can get hectic

Sunday May 1 landing 4:00pm.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 06, 2016, 07:20:13 AM
Sunday May 1 landing 4:00pm.
Looks clear as of now
Title: London Master Thread
Post by: Mech on March 06, 2016, 08:08:32 AM
I am stopping in London in 2 weeks for 23 1/2 hrs. Arriving 2pm leaving 1:30pm the next day. I was never in London before so I was hoping to do a few basic stuff. I have a plan but would love to hear any other ideas or tips.
-I'm staying in the Hyatt Regency- Churchill. I picked that location because it is in walking distance to Reuben's, close the Buckingham Palace, and pretty much central. I am also Hyatt Diamond and I'm hoping for a good upgrade and kosher breakfast.
-I'm hoping to arrive in the hotel at 3:30ish and go straight to the London eye before it gets dark.
I'm not sure how I should plan the rest of the day and next morning. I would like to see the Tower of London Bridge, which I'm assuming that I will see that when I go to the London Eye..?? Also the Palace, Harrods, maybe the Crown Jewels (if there is time).
I probably have to leave at 11am to the airport. I'm hoping to get an hr and a half to 2 hrs in the morning. 
Where's the closest minyan?
Would love some tips!
Thanx!
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 06, 2016, 08:12:15 AM
I am stopping in London in 2 weeks for 23 1/2 hrs. Arriving 2pm leaving 1:30pm the next day. I was never in London before so I was hoping to do a few basic stuff. I have a plan but would love to hear any other ideas or tips.
-I'm staying in the Hyatt Regency- Churchill. I picked that location because it is in walking distance to Reuben's, close the Buckingham Palace, and pretty much central. I am also Hyatt Diamond and I'm hoping for a good upgrade and kosher breakfast.
-I'm hoping to arrive in the hotel at 3:30ish and go straight to the London eye before it gets dark.
I'm not sure how I should plan the rest of the day and next morning. I would like to see the Tower of London Bridge, which I'm assuming that I will see that when I go to the London Eye..?? Also the Palace, Harrods, maybe the Crown Jewels (if there is time).
I probably have to leave at 11am to the airport. I'm hoping to get an hr and a half to 2 hrs in the morning. 
Where's the closest minyan?
Would love some tips!
Thanx!
London Eye is right next to the palace but it would probably be closed at night. Also if you want to see changing of the guards it is by day only and on alternate days. But I find London Eye area very nice at night.
Title: London Master Thread
Post by: Mech on March 06, 2016, 08:16:45 AM
London Eye is right next to the palace but it would probably be closed at night. Also if you want to see changing of the guards it is by day only and on alternate days. But I find London Eye area very nice at night.
Isn't the London Eye across the bay from the Palace? So are you saying it's better to go on the London Eye at night and not by day? I would assume the view is better by day..?? I would like to see the changing of the guard but I don't think I have time or the will to push a bunch of Chinese people with selfie sticks, to get to the front.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 06, 2016, 08:58:29 AM
The only minyan in town IINM is the Western Marble Arch Synagogue.
Really want to spend the money on the eye? I don't get it - London's skyline isn't so exciting...

Read the thread, there's a Changing of the Guards tour with someone named Matt who supposedly gets a great view, but I just realized your flight is at 11AM. Changing of the Guards is after that time.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 06, 2016, 09:02:17 AM
The only minyan in town IINM is the Western Marble Arch Synagogue.
Really want to spend the money on the eye? I don't get it - London's skyline isn't so exciting...

Read the thread, there's a Changing of the Guards tour with someone named Matt who supposedly gets a great view, but I just realized your flight is at 11AM. Changing of the Guards is after that time.
Doing the London Eye isn't for the view. It's a thing. I'm from London and I've never done it. Americans that come for a day do it.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 06, 2016, 09:07:03 AM
Doing the London Eye isn't for the view. It's a thing. I'm from London and I've never done it. Americans that come for a day do it.
Which is why it's a waste of money. I didn't do it on my trip bc of that. #touristtrap
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Zevi16 on March 06, 2016, 09:16:36 AM
Which is why it's a waste of money. I didn't do it on my trip bc of that. #touristtrap
But everything is a tourist trap. If it were up to me I would suggest golders green and Hendon the whole day for food. Maybe Westfield for shopping.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 06, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
Really want to spend the money on the eye? I don't get it - London's skyline isn't so exciting...
Which is why it's a waste of money. I didn't do it on my trip bc of that. #touristtrap
Agreed.  There are better things to do with $30.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 06, 2016, 09:52:51 AM

Agreed.  There are better things to do with $30.
I actually thought it was more expensive than that. But nonetheless, it doesn't seem too exciting. I'd rather go to the London Dungeon (next door) which was great.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Der Deutsche Jude on March 06, 2016, 10:03:14 AM
I actually thought it was more expensive than that.
It was always $40, but with the better exchange rate, and the ability to get an online discount, you can save $10.  whatever.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 06, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
But everything is a tourist trap. If it were up to me I would suggest golders green and Hendon the whole day for food. Maybe Westfield for shopping.
I disagree. I find some things interesting and worth the money. I didn't think getting a view of London from the eye was worth it. Anyway, whatever, clearly people like to go.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 06, 2016, 10:33:18 AM
Having done the London Eye, I didn't think it was too exciting compared to the Tower of London (crown jewels). Go first to the Tower of London and the if you really want, so the Eye at night.
Title: Re: London Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on March 06, 2016, 11:37:32 AM