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Title: Jury Duty
Post by: Reb Jo on March 03, 2012, 11:45:32 PM
Does any one have experience with jury duty in NY, i am summoned to go later this month and i am out of town in yeshiva. does know what are my options, could i schedule it for a later specific date? could i boycott??
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mclovin on March 03, 2012, 11:51:43 PM
if u can prove ur in out of town yeshiva u dont have to do it
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Reb Jo on March 04, 2012, 12:13:46 AM
For how long will I not have to do it? How do I prove it?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mclovin on March 04, 2012, 12:18:14 AM
For how long will I not have to do it? How do I prove it?
dont know how long it gets pushed off. have your yeshiva write a letter saying you dorm there etc.
Title: jury Duty
Post by: A3 on March 04, 2012, 12:18:42 AM
Tuitions statement/bill?
In IL my mom just wrote that I was studying abroad in Israel and never heard anything back. That was over 5 years ago. And I've moved to another state then another state since.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Reb Jo on March 04, 2012, 12:31:32 AM
dont know how long it gets pushed off. have your yeshiva write a letter saying you dorm there etc.

does anyone have experience in NY?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Sammy82 on March 04, 2012, 12:33:48 AM
I just throw mine out. Unless they send it via certified mail, they can't prove I received it.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: bubbles on March 04, 2012, 12:34:59 AM
I just throw mine out. Unless they send it via certified mail, they can't prove I received it.

Where is your sense of civic duty?!?  :P
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mclovin on March 04, 2012, 12:37:17 AM
does anyone have experience in NY?
same thing happened to me except i never sent in anything bec i never got around to it and they havent sent me anything else in about a year
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: joeb1 on March 04, 2012, 12:38:44 AM
Where is your sense of civic duty?!?  :P

i do not  consider it civic duty to sit in a room for 7 long hrs and than besent home without talking to anyone or doing anything
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: JEWDA on March 04, 2012, 02:02:17 AM
My wife got summoned a year ago with letters saying that if she doesnt go down to the office personally within 10 days she can be arrested. She never went and never responded, nothing happened till now.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Dan on March 04, 2012, 02:03:41 AM
My wife got summoned a year ago with letters saying that if she doesnt go down to the office personally within 10 days she can be arrested. She never went and never responded, nothing happened till now.
Knock, knock, knock...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Reb Jo on March 04, 2012, 02:07:35 AM
Well i am excited to get arrested just for not going. Lol
I heard I could push it off so i will see. But thanks
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AJK on March 04, 2012, 03:08:31 AM
i do not  consider it civic duty to sit in a room for 7 long hrs and than besent home without talking to anyone or doing anything

No disrespect, but your considerations are irrelevant.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Chaikel on March 04, 2012, 03:09:35 AM
No disrespect, but your considerations are irrelevant.
+1
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Dan on March 04, 2012, 03:11:47 AM
I've never been asked, but I'd do it at least once without trying to weasel out of it if the dates worked.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AsherO on March 04, 2012, 03:31:46 AM
I've never been asked, but I'd do it at least once without trying to weasel out of it if the dates worked.

You just discredited your whole commitment :P
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Dan on March 04, 2012, 03:34:23 AM
You just discredited your whole commitment :P
Obviously if I'm traveling or the like I'm not going to miss a trip for it, but otherwise I wouldn't intentionally try to get out of it.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AsherO on March 04, 2012, 03:38:46 AM
Obviously if I'm traveling or the like I'm not going to miss a trip for it, but otherwise I wouldn't intentionally try to get out of it.

I said the same thing, until I found an easy way to recuse myself during voir dire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voir_dire#Use_in_the_United_States).
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mclovin on March 04, 2012, 07:29:26 PM
I said the same thing, until I found an easy way to recuse myself during voir dire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voir_dire#Use_in_the_United_States).
care to elaborate?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AsherO on March 04, 2012, 11:58:38 PM
care to elaborate?

They asked if I'd have bias in such-and-such case (they gave a scenario), so I told a true story about why I'd be biased. The story was true, but I'm not sure it'd make me as biased as I made it sound, if at all.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mclovin on March 05, 2012, 12:01:25 AM
They asked if I'd have bias in such-and-such case (they gave a scenario), so I told a true story about why I'd be biased. The story was true, but I'm not sure it'd make me as biased as I made it sound, if at all.
oh thought u meant a way to always get out. didnt realize you were talking about a specific time
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: isrealsuits on March 09, 2012, 02:01:47 PM
the op asked  how to get out of jury duty not  IF he should go or not as others responded that cant prove you received it without  certified mail
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: JEWDA on March 09, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
the op asked  how to get out of jury duty not  IF he should go or not as others responded that cant prove you received it without  certified mail

Read again:
Does any one have experience with jury duty in NY, i am summoned to go later this month and i am out of town in yeshiva. does know what are my options, could i schedule it for a later specific date? could i boycott??
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: David B on March 09, 2012, 02:13:48 PM
Does any one have experience with jury duty in NY, i am summoned to go later this month and i am out of town in yeshiva. does know what are my options, could i schedule it for a later specific date? could i boycott??


Can't boycott -- you'll be found in contempt of court if you try that (assuming you show up and tell them you boycott).

Although as others have posted, until they serve your jury summons in person or by certified mail, they have no way to prove you were actually summoned.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Avid Reader on March 13, 2012, 06:14:15 AM
I just completed my Jury duty. I was very lucky not to be chosen as a grand jurar, as that would mean an automatic two weeks of duty. From what I understood, there isn't even a chanceof being dissmised in the process of voir dire in a Grand Jury, as  we don't actually sentence anyone, rather just decide if a case should go to trial or be dismissed (perhaps AJK or someone else with law knowledge can confirm if that is true).

@ Reb Jo, if you're not living at that address, much more so if you're living out of state, I think you can ignore the summons.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AJK on March 13, 2012, 09:08:16 AM
I just completed my Jury duty. I was very lucky not to be chosen as a grand jurar, as that would mean an automatic two weeks of duty. From what I understood, there isn't even a chanceof being dissmised in the process of voir dire in a Grand Jury, as  we don't actually sentence anyone, rather just decide if a case should go to trial or be dismissed (perhaps AJK or someone else with law knowledge can confirm if that is true).

True, a GJ will decide whether to indict. But, as New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler said, "a grand jury would 'indict a ham sandwich'...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Avid Reader on March 14, 2012, 11:31:54 PM
True, a GJ will decide whether to indict. But, as New York State chief judge Sol Wachtler said, "a grand jury would 'indict a ham sandwich'...
Thanks for confirming.
Why would a grand Jury indict so easily? wouldn't they then be obligated to sit on that trial = more time on Jury duty? Or would there be another jury presiding over the trial?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: myb821 on March 14, 2012, 11:37:36 PM
Thanks for confirming.
Why would a grand Jury indict so easily? wouldn't they then be obligated to sit on that trial = more time on Jury duty? Or would there be another jury presiding over the trial?
different jury grand jurys are just to indict
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AsherO on March 14, 2012, 11:39:25 PM
Thanks for confirming.
Why would a grand Jury indict so easily? wouldn't they then be obligated to sit on that trial = more time on Jury duty? Or would there be another jury presiding over the trial?

GJs are just to indict, they review many cases and each GJ is for two weeks. I don't think there's the same rules as a regular jury (regarding guilt beyond reasonable doubt). AJK could help me with the technical terminology, but they evaluate if the suspicion/evidence warrants a trial.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Avid Reader on March 14, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
different jury grand jurys are just to indict
GJs are just to indict, they review many cases and each GJ is for two weeks. I don't think there's the same rules as a regular jury (regarding guilt beyond reasonable doubt). AJK could help me with the technical terminology, but they evaluate if the suspicion/evidence warrants a trial.
Gotcha.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AJK on March 15, 2012, 11:59:23 AM
different jury grand jurys are just to indict

+1

GJs are just to indict, they review many cases and each GJ is for two weeks. I don't think there's the same rules as a regular jury (regarding guilt beyond reasonable doubt). AJK could help me with the technical terminology, but they evaluate if the suspicion/evidence warrants a trial.

Definitely a different set of rules (no opposing counsel, no objections, etc), and burden of proof is simply "probable cause," a much less stringent burden, hence the "ham sandwich" comment.

Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Solomon on January 30, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
I have got in the last half year 2 questioners by mail to apply for jury duty but i ignored it,
Yesterday i got a letter stating that since i ignored the previous letters, i have to come down personally to downtown bklyn to fill out the questioner
Within 10 days of the letter, or i can get fined or imprisonment,
Anybody here with previous experience on this ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: MisterHock on January 30, 2013, 01:13:34 PM
I have got in the last half year 2 questioners by mail to apply for jury duty but i ignored it,
Yesterday i got a letter stating that since i ignored the previous letters, i have to come down personally to downtown bklyn to fill out the questioner
Within 10 days of the letter, or i can get fined or imprisonment,
Anybody here with previous experience on this ?

Yes, all they make you do is fill in the questioner in person and then you leave and wait for your real summons :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Solomon on January 30, 2013, 01:15:11 PM
Yes, all they make you do is fill in the questioner in person and then you leave and wait for your real summons :)
but do i really have to go down now or i can just ignore it?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: HelpMe on January 30, 2013, 01:32:31 PM
I love jury duty!
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Got a clue on January 30, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
My brothers Rebbi is out of teaching for the next month bec he got stuck on a case..  ;D
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Dan on January 30, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
10 years since I registered to vote and no jury duty yet.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Saver2000 on January 30, 2013, 01:40:35 PM
I love jury duty!
Which part? Losing a day of paid work?  Wasting one (or more) of your sick days?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Saver2000 on January 30, 2013, 01:42:32 PM
10 years since I registered to vote and no jury duty yet.
My sister isn't a registered voter and recently got called.  Go figure.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Solomon on January 30, 2013, 01:47:22 PM
I'm not registered either and they sent me, i think it goes by if you sign up for any dmv id,
So lets get back, anybody here with experience regarding not going down for the questionnaire in NY?
Will they come pick me up if i don't go down?!?!   ;)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: whYME on January 30, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
I got a jury summons recently and I actually wanted to go this time, but the timing was really bad for me, So I had to postpone it.

I figure that if I want to be able to complain the justice system I need to do my part. I can't keep getting out of jury duty then complain that other people are getting it wrong.






They take the names from many places, not just voter registration.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mclovin on January 30, 2013, 02:05:48 PM
I'm not registered either and they sent me, i think it goes by if you sign up for any dmv id,
So lets get back, anybody here with experience regarding not going down for the questionnaire in NY?
Will they come pick me up if i don't go down?!?!   ;)
I have heard that until they send it registered mail (or signature etc) you can ignore it
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: 972sg212 on January 30, 2013, 04:10:27 PM
My sister isn't a registered voter and recently got called.  Go figure.

I wasn't registered to vote when I received my jury summon
But I sent them a letter from yeshiva that I was to be in Israel for the date requested
And I never heard from them
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Avid Reader on January 30, 2013, 05:28:21 PM
I love jury duty!
Which part?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Emkay on January 30, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
I love jury duty!
+1
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Sammy82 on January 30, 2013, 07:51:54 PM
I have heard that until they send it registered mail (or signature etc) you can ignore it
+1
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: HelpMe on January 30, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
Which part?
Which part? Losing a day of paid work?  Wasting one (or more) of your sick days?
I get my full pay.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Avid Reader on January 30, 2013, 08:32:59 PM
I get my full pay.
Here in NYC, the pay is pretty low. Definitly not enough to compensate the lost days of work for most people.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Saver2000 on January 30, 2013, 08:33:32 PM
I get my full pay.
Does that mean you're a government worker?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: HelpMe on January 30, 2013, 08:35:43 PM
Here in NYC, the pay is pretty low. Definitly not enough to compensate the lost days of work for most people.
Same where I am at but my employer pays 100% and if I was in NYC it would be the same.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: HelpMe on January 30, 2013, 08:37:01 PM
Does that mean you're a government worker?
We don't like to use the word "worker".  :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: elikay on January 30, 2013, 11:53:10 PM
I would love to do jury duty if it would work out with my schedule. That said, it is sad that we have a justice system where so many cases are decided by people who couldn't get out of jury duty.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Avid Reader on January 30, 2013, 11:58:57 PM
I would love to do jury duty if it would work out with my schedule. That said, it is sad that we have a justice system where so many cases are decided by people who couldn't get out of jury duty.
+ 1 on both statements.
Even if i have to take off work, I'd do it as long as the Gov would pay me what I had been making otherwise. I'd really like to sit in on a case.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AsherO on January 31, 2013, 12:12:03 AM
We don't like to use the word "worker".  :)

It's against union rules to do any work :D
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: aryeh1 on January 31, 2013, 01:32:44 AM
I never answer the notices or questionnaires
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: skyguy918 on January 31, 2013, 10:34:56 AM
Same where I am at but my employer pays 100% and if I was in NYC it would be the same.

+1

I was called for standby in Queens for next week (you call each night before to see if you have to go in), and I get full pay from my employer (not government, big company).
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: rab on January 31, 2013, 08:53:14 PM
I live now in Israel, but have a address in NY, and got the questionere and filled it out, and wrote that i don't know English, but it didn't help, and now i got a jury summons, so what should i do now?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: whYME on January 31, 2013, 09:04:23 PM
I live now in Israel, but have a address in NY, and got the questionere and filled it out, and wrote that i don't know English, but it didn't help, and now i got a jury summons, so what should i do now?
i imagine you tell them thay you're not currently living in NY...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: world2see on February 01, 2013, 08:23:11 AM
i once heard that our mess of a legal system has jury duty to blame,the only jurrors who end upon a case are just the people too stupid to get out of jury duty. just something to think about :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: elikay on February 01, 2013, 08:48:18 AM
i once heard that our mess of a legal system has jury duty to blame,the only jurrors who end upon a case are just the people too stupid to get out of jury duty. just something to think about :)
That said, it is sad that we have a justice system where so many cases are decided by people who couldn't get out of jury duty.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: rab on February 03, 2013, 08:29:08 AM
i imagine you tell them thay you're not currently living in NY...

The problem is that by mistake i checked yes when they asked on the questionere if i live in that county in NY, Do you think they will make a fuss about it?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Avid Reader on February 03, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Tell them the truth, you're living in Israel. I would imagine you can back it up with proof if they ask you to.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: whYME on February 03, 2013, 02:54:04 PM
Tell them the truth, you're living in Israel. I would imagine you can back it up with proof if they ask you to.
+1
-unless you're claiming some benefits as if you're living in NY...


The problem is that by mistake i checked yes when they asked on the questionere if i live in that county in NY, Do you think they will make a fuss about it?
I imagine you can play dumb and say you thought you had checked "no"
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 01:49:22 AM
Got jury duty to report to in a few hours...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2014, 01:54:58 AM
Got jury duty to report to in a few hours...
Good luck.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: DMYD on October 02, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
Got jury duty to report to in a few hours...
Why Go? I just throw them in the Garbage, they have no idea if I ever received it in the mail, only if they have it certified!   
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 02, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
Got jury duty to report to in a few hours...
I guess we'll see lots of you on here today ;)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
I guess we'll see lots of you on here today ;)

Lol yes, was on here till my phone died a few hours in, didn't bring charger.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2014, 05:13:50 PM
Lol yes, was on here till my phone died a few hours in, didn't bring charger.
How was it ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 05:24:42 PM
Jury Duty - Mini TR :)

I received the summons in the mail to appear on this day for Jury Duty, instead of pushing it off I figured it would be a perfect time to go, with the excuse that I wouldn't be able to stay long on a case because of the upcoming Jewish holidays - simple. Note for first timers, on the Jury summons there will be 2 address there, the one on Jay street is where you go to appear for Jury Duty, the other one is just if you want to get out of it, such as medical issue or to reschedule a second time in person.

Arrived there at 8:15 in the morning, says you must be there by 8:30, though they were running everything "heimish" style and nothing started until about 9:15. In the beginning they show a video which makes the experience look very interesting and exciting to actually be able to sit in on a case. At this point after the video the list of people that are exempted are said, such as if you were ever convicted, if you are a caregiver, if you have a medical issue, if you don't speak english etc.. Then from the remaining people in the room all the papers (summons part A & D along with the info card to fill out when you arrive) are collected. At about 10-10:30 they start calling peoples name at random to go upstairs to the courtroom and hear what will be the case, my name wasn't called and so there was a long long waiting time just sitting there in the room. At 12:45, my name was still not called, and lunch break was announced that will go on till 2pm, at which time everyone must return. - Bring lunch and snacks with you, nothing really kosher in the area, and the only kosher snack in the vending machine was popcorners. Finally at about 3:30 the remaining 100 of us in the room were told that they will not need any more jurors, to which the room went crazy with a huge round of applause!!! - We were given papers that said that we appeared and are not required to come again for 8 years, in addition either your employer or the jury must pay you $40 for going to JD.

So as a reminder, besides for what they tell you to bring, like the summons and a pen. Make sure to bring a lunch or two, snacks, drink - no glass, good reading material or entertainment with headphones. Good luck.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
POIDH  :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 05:34:06 PM
POIDH  :)

Have a few of the room and the beginning of the day there, but unfortunately like i wrote above, my phone went dead a few hours in, so nothing of the applause :(.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2014, 05:37:45 PM
Have a few of the room and the beginning of the day there, but unfortunately like i wrote above, my phone went dead a few hours in, so nothing of the applause :(.
Its ok. They give 8 years between summonses ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 05:44:40 PM
Its ok. They give 8 years between summonses ?

Yup, and if they send you one before then, you just send them back a copy of the paper that you have, that says you do not have to go for the next 8 years.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: nyfellow on October 02, 2014, 05:45:20 PM
Jury Duty - Mini TR :)

 - Bring lunch and snacks with you, nothing really kosher in the area, and the only kosher snack in the vending machine was popcorners.

So as a reminder, besides for what they tell you to bring, like the summons and a pen. Make sure to bring a lunch or two, snacks, drink - no glass, good reading material or entertainment with headphones. Good luck.

FYI- There is was a kosher fleishig restaurant called "SHUK" located a few blocks away from the courthouses located on 129 Livingston St Brooklyn, NY 11201.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 02, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
Yup, and if they send you one before then, you just send them back a copy of the paper that you have, that says you do not have to go for the next 8 years.
Right. Because I probably have it somewhere from 6 years ago after getting married and moving 3 times and the meantime :P
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 05:47:47 PM
FYI- There is a kosher fleishig restaurant called "SHUK" located a few blocks away from the courthouses located on 129 Livingston St Brooklyn, NY 11201.

Thought there was something, but couldn't place where it was, and didn't have any battery to do a search. Though they do offer free wifi in the waiting room.

Right. Because I probably have it somewhere from 6 years ago after getting married and moving 3 times and the meantime :P

Yup ;)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2014, 05:48:26 PM
They somehow botched my last name up big time. So until they fix it I never have to go. :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: nyfellow on October 02, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
Thought there was something, but couldn't place where it was, and didn't have any battery to do a search. Though they do offer free wifi in the waiting room.


At least now you will know for 8 years from now.  ;)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2014, 05:57:19 PM
but unfortunately like i wrote above, my phone went dead a few hours in
Remember to charge your phone in 8 years.  :) Although by then you'll be able to stick it in your ear to charge it.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 06:00:10 PM
At least now you will know for 8 years from now.  ;)

;) - Was actually very close to there today about half a block away there is a dd.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: nyfellow on October 02, 2014, 06:08:17 PM
;) - Was actually very close to there today about half a block away there is a dd.

well actually it seems like they closed a few months ago. I just checked online. I was there this past winter. Was around for about 2 years or so. There used to be a schnitzel stand in the area that came and went as well. When I was at SHUK it was jammed with heimishe attorneys etc. pretty good food too. oh well. The area can definitely use a lunch spot.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Ergel on October 02, 2014, 07:28:52 PM
Right. Because I probably have it somewhere from 6 years ago after getting married and moving 3 times and the meantime :P
scan it and save it in your gmail
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 02, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
scan it and save it in your gmail
Now you tell me :P
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: sruly on October 02, 2014, 07:35:58 PM
FYI- There is was a kosher fleishig restaurant called "SHUK" located a few blocks away from the courthouses located on 129 Livingston St Brooklyn, NY 11201.
they closed down
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: MC on October 02, 2014, 08:37:08 PM

Yup, and if they send you one before then, you just send them back a copy of the paper that you have, that says you do not have to go for the next 8 years.
What?! In CA it's 1 year!
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 02, 2014, 08:39:27 PM
What?! In CA it's 1 year!
That's very little time. With such a large population why do they need you back so soon ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 02, 2014, 09:16:14 PM
That's very little time. With such a large population why do they need you back so soon ?
Maybe they have a larger number of lawsuits?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: AnonymousUser on October 02, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
Maybe they have a larger number of lawsuits?
Or a larger number of ineligible people, like illegal immigrants.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: 12HRS on October 03, 2014, 01:01:46 AM
What?! In CA it's 1 year!

That's very little time. With such a large population why do they need you back so soon ?

Because lots of people throw out the summons
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 03, 2014, 02:23:30 AM
Because lots of people throw out the summons
They do that in NY too.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 03, 2014, 02:40:03 AM
What?! In CA it's 1 year!

Yeh my sibling there told me that today, so postponing is basically like missing a term, versus in NY where if you postpone if thats not close to the 8 year period.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 10:39:15 AM
Today is my turn....

So far I can copy paste Yallili's TR, but thanks God I have a charger.

If anyone is nearby feel free to come up visit me.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: sillypainter on October 23, 2014, 10:41:06 AM
Today is my turn....

So far I can copy paste Yallili's TR, but thanks God I have a charger.

If anyone is nearby feel free to come up visit me.

Are you the short chubby one sitting on a black chair? Make a gesture so I know it's you.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Centro on October 23, 2014, 10:42:15 AM
Today is my turn....

So far I can copy paste Yallili's TR, but thanks God I have a charger.

If anyone is nearby feel free to come up visit me.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/23/e5ezybar.jpg)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 10:42:49 AM
If you're really in the area, please PM me and I'll identify myself.

Plenty of Jewish people here...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 23, 2014, 10:46:47 AM
Plenty of Jewish people here...
So its lies that people always say jews don't go.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 10:48:12 AM
At least today.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: username on October 23, 2014, 11:05:19 AM
Today is my turn....

So far I can copy paste Yallili's TR, but thanks God I have a charger.

If anyone is nearby feel free to come up visit me.
Good luck. I once heard that the jury is made up of mesugeners...Guess its only some days.

Are you hoping to be exempt, or do you want to sit in on a trial?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 11:12:07 AM
I wouldn't come if I'm not interested in sitting on a trial.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Mordyk on October 23, 2014, 11:16:20 AM
I wouldn't come if I'm not interested in sitting on a trial.
i also tried getting on a trial and they sent me home ::)

i guess they only keep the disinterested people
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 23, 2014, 11:31:27 AM
I wouldn't come if I'm not interested in sitting on a trial.
Just make sure they don't see this or you're on your way home.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44404.0
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Mordyk on October 23, 2014, 11:45:43 AM
Just make sure they don't see this or you're on your way home.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44404.0
+1000   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 03:18:46 PM
Well, I didn't have the same ending as Yallili...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: myb821 on October 23, 2014, 03:19:59 PM
Well, I didn't have the same ending as Yallili...
on a trial?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 23, 2014, 03:21:57 PM
Well, I didn't have the same ending as Yallili...
What happened ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
on a trial?
sshhh..
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 23, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
sshhh..

What is it about? I know they said you can't say to anyone...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 04:15:55 PM
So I'm not gonna say...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mb1 on October 23, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
So I'm not gonna say...
When does it start?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 23, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
Tomorrow or Monday.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: username on October 23, 2014, 04:47:27 PM
candle lighting is 5:44.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mb1 on October 23, 2014, 04:48:21 PM
Adams Street?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 23, 2014, 04:48:32 PM
Tomorrow or Monday.
Waiting for the TR
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yaakovl on October 23, 2014, 10:07:11 PM
Waiting for the TR
be happy you're not on a federal jury, no electronic devices allowed
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 24, 2014, 02:14:12 AM
Waiting for the TR

So I'm not gonna say...

Won't have too much left for the TR..
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Emkay on October 24, 2014, 08:42:41 AM
Won't have too much left for the TR..
After you can, no?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 24, 2014, 08:44:56 AM
After you can, no?
afterwards you can say anything.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 24, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
Everything here is so bureaucratic, every single move is a whole procedure.
And that's before the real thing even started.

So far it's just boring - going into a room just to go out, going into a chamber so they can then take us into another room, then all into the courtroom so they can ask a few questions and send us back out.

The lawyers and court clerks make us feel like kindergarten kids.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: lunatic on October 24, 2014, 10:50:34 AM
Everything here is so bureaucratic, every single move is a whole procedure.
And that's before the real thing even started.

So far it's just boring - going into a room just to go out, going into a chamber so they can then take us into another room, then all into the courtroom so they can ask a few questions and send us back out.

The lawyers and court clerks make us feel like kindergarten kids.
Gives lots of opportunities for ddf
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 24, 2014, 10:50:47 AM
Everything here is so bureaucratic, every single move is a whole procedure.
And that's before the real thing even started.

So far it's just boring - going into a room just to go out, going into a chamber so they can then take us into another room, then all into the courtroom so they can ask a few questions and send us back out.

The lawyers and court clerks make us feel like kindergarten kids.
Well most jurors aren't much smarter than kindergarten kids.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: YOSEF on October 24, 2014, 10:52:39 AM
Those kindergarten kids are the ones paying the bills. They pay the DA's salary, and the judge's salary etc etc.

The most annoying thing I found when going to jury duty is the lack of respect etc for the citizen. I took the day off work. I pay your salary. I should be the one dreying, not you!
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 24, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
Those kindergarten kids are the ones paying the bills. They pay the DA's salary, and the judge's salary etc etc.

The most annoying thing I found when going to jury duty is the lack of respect etc for the citizen. I took the day off work. I pay your salary. I should be the one dreying, not you!
It's that way with every government agency. Maybe they're upset you're not paying them a higher salary.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 24, 2014, 10:59:04 AM
Today is indeed ridiculous.

The lawyers told us yesterday to be here 10 in the morning, they'll wait for us and continue the process.

So far nothing.

Talk about chickens...

ETA: they now arrived...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 24, 2014, 11:00:43 AM
Today is indeed ridiculous.

The lawyers told us yesterday to be here 10 in the morning, they'll wait for us and continue the process.

So far nothing.
What time do you get to leave ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mb1 on October 24, 2014, 11:01:11 AM
How many days did they tell you to expect the trial to last?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 27, 2014, 02:54:12 PM
After 3 days of service, the lawyers decided they're not interested in us and dismissed me along with three other jurors to go home.

And that's before the trial even began.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 27, 2014, 03:10:41 PM
After 3 days of service, the lawyers decided they're not interested in us and dismissed me along with three other jurors to go home.

And that's before the trial even began.

Oy all that for nothing then, will you at least get paid?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 27, 2014, 03:12:38 PM
Yes, $40 per day.
Disgusting
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Menachem613 on October 27, 2014, 04:37:31 PM

After 3 days of service, the lawyers decided they're not interested in us and dismissed me along with three other jurors to go home.

And that's before the trial even began.

Can't blame them.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 27, 2014, 04:43:18 PM
After 3 days of service, the lawyers decided they're not interested in us and dismissed me along with three other jurors to go home.

And that's before the trial even began.
What went on for those 3 days ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 27, 2014, 04:44:47 PM
What went on for those 3 days ?
Questioning and being scrutinized by the lawyers.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 27, 2014, 04:46:42 PM
Can't blame them.
You hate me?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 27, 2014, 04:51:48 PM
Questioning and being scrutinized by the lawyers.
How bright was the average juror ? Should they be deciding someone's fate ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 27, 2014, 05:01:53 PM
You hate me?
כמים הפנים אל הפנים כן לב האדם אל האדם...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on October 27, 2014, 05:02:15 PM
How bright was the average juror ? Should they be deciding someone's fate ?
Two of them sounded stupid, the others were quite intellectual, one even holds quite a prestigious job.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 27, 2014, 05:04:11 PM
one even holds quite a prestigious job.
Don't be so humble.  :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: somefield on October 27, 2014, 05:08:52 PM
Yes, $40 per day.
Disgusting

Here in Cleveland (for county JD) you get $25/ day and still need to pay for parking!
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Sammy82 on October 27, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
Here in Cleveland (for county JD) you get $25/ day and still need to pay for parking!
that's probably half your mortgage payment
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 27, 2014, 07:35:10 PM
 
that's probably half your mortgage payment
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: MC on October 27, 2014, 07:39:03 PM
Try $15 in CA...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: bobby on October 29, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
How bright was the average juror ? Should they be deciding someone's fate ?

What's the alternative? As lousy a system as it is, it's far better than having your fate decided by single judge who may hate you just because you're black, jewish, etc. And of course in a criminal trial you can always have the judge decide your fate if that's what you prefer.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 29, 2014, 06:42:39 PM
What's the alternative? As lousy a system as it is, it's far better than having your fate decided by single judge who may hate you just because you're black, jewish, etc. And of course in a criminal trial you can always have the judge decide your fate if that's what you prefer.
Have a panel of 4-5 random judges.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: bobby on October 30, 2014, 10:37:26 AM
Have a panel of 4-5 random judges.

First off, if you think your taxes were high until now, imagine the state hiring thousands (if not more) of judges. Secondly, the idea of a jury trial is to protect citizens against the abusive power of the government. Your solution still has the same problem. Sure, the jury system is the butt of everyone's jokes, and rightfully so, but those that legitimately think we should get rid of it tend to lack an understanding of history. This is not to say that we can't seriously reform the system- I don't think it's necessary to have citizens miss days of work so they can judge whether the sidewalk wasn't paved properly.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda57 on October 30, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
Your solution still has the same problem.

The video they show you (in Kings County anyways) when you come in for jury duty shows historical cases where that is exactly what happened: a large group of judges unfairly sentenced innocents (to death, IIRC).

I was selected to a jury on a murder trial (got excused in middle, but that's another story). The jury was not made up of idiots at all. Just average lower-middle class Americans of all kinds of backgrounds and ethnicities. Although the other guys on the jury seemed more interested in getting an up close look at the knife that killed the guy than figuring out if the defendant was guilty :-)

In the jury selection process, a lot of people tried to turn themselves into racists, cop haters, and all sorts of things mentioned on this thread to get off jury duty. The judge didn't care for all their excuses.  Basically, if you're relying on those excuses, YMMV.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 30, 2014, 11:18:38 AM
Unfortunately you could make the same video of juries sending away innocent & letting murderers loose. How many times have jurors based their decision on the person's community/color etc. Or if the victim is crying they'll have sympathy when it could just be a shpiel. & how many times has a juror been interviewed afterwards & said that s/he really feels it's the other way. Also there are lots of people that go in there hating the cops/law or just wanna go home. You're talking about possibly putting someone away for life.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda57 on October 30, 2014, 11:25:50 AM
Unfortunately you could make the same video of juries sending away innocent & letting murderers loose. How many times have jurors based their decision on the person's community/color etc. Or if the victim is crying they'll have sympathy when it could just be a shpiel. & how many times has a juror been interviewed afterwards & said that s/he really feels it's the other way. Also there are lots of people that go in there hating the cops/law or just wanna go home. You're talking about possibly putting someone away for life.

Agreed. I believe the judicial system needs a lot of major improvements. I have no idea what the solution is, though.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on October 30, 2014, 11:29:13 AM
Although the other guys on the jury seemed more interested in getting an up close look at the knife that killed the guy than figuring out if the defendant was guilty :-)

12 Angry Men flashback ;)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 30, 2014, 11:29:33 AM
Agreed. I believe the judicial system needs a lot of major improvements. I have no idea what the solution is, though.
There is no perfect solution. Only 2 people know if a crime was committed, the victim & the suspect.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 30, 2014, 11:31:49 AM
12 Angry Men flashback ;)
Who knows how many real juries might look like that, just without the "Henry Fonda" to lead the way.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: bobby on October 30, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
Unfortunately you could make the same video of juries sending away innocent & letting murderers loose. How many times have jurors based their decision on the person's community/color etc. Or if the victim is crying they'll have sympathy when it could just be a shpiel. & how many times has a juror been interviewed afterwards & said that s/he really feels it's the other way. Also there are lots of people that go in there hating the cops/law or just wanna go home. You're talking about possibly putting someone away for life.

Yes, our judicial system, as should any civilized judicial system, clearly prefers to err on the side of letting criminals go than locking up innocent people. Remember, a suspect can always choose to be tried by a judge if he prefers.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 30, 2014, 02:45:20 PM
Yes, our judicial system, as should any civilized judicial system, clearly prefers to err on the side of letting criminals go than locking up innocent people. Remember, a suspect can always choose to be tried by a judge if he prefers.
Recently a lot of innocent people being freed after years in prison. Goes both ways.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Menachem613 on October 30, 2014, 04:30:10 PM

Recently a lot of innocent people being freed after years in prison. Goes both ways.

+1
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 30, 2014, 04:36:52 PM
Recently a lot of innocent people being freed after years in prison. Goes both ways.
One of them had a massive heart attack right after & a different one died soon after getting out.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: efflpetzel on November 02, 2014, 10:10:14 PM
My wife recently received a NOTICE OF DELINQUENCY.
Anything to be worried about or can I claim that I never got it
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: DMYD on November 03, 2014, 03:57:22 PM
My wife recently received a NOTICE OF DELINQUENCY.
Anything to be worried about or can I claim that I never got it
As long its not certified it cant be verified that you received anything.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 17, 2014, 09:45:05 PM
Quote
Those of you with contacts to other listservs, social networks, etc. please forward to any Jewish site in the New York City area as this Court house brings in jurors from all five boroughs.
found: in jury room of the Federal Courthouse Eastern District in Brooklyn. Chumash Breishis with English and Rashi with name "Stein" penciled inside. Please contact vivrobfrank@msn.com
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on November 17, 2014, 09:50:11 PM
Quote
Those of you with contacts to other listservs, social networks, etc. please forward to any Jewish site in the New York City area as this Court house brings in jurors from all five boroughs.
found: in jury room of the Federal Courthouse Eastern District in Brooklyn. Chumash Breishis with English and Rashi with name "Stein" penciled inside. Please contact vivrobfrank@msn.com
Where's the quote from ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 17, 2014, 09:55:32 PM
Where's the quote from ?
Email I got from some mailing list
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: noturbizniss on November 17, 2014, 09:55:36 PM
As long its not certified it cant be verified that you received anything.
+True, but ignoring these is not going to end well. She'll have to go sooner or later...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: DMYD on November 17, 2014, 09:58:29 PM
+True, but ignoring these is not going to end well. She'll have to go sooner or later...
I have been doing it for a long time already and they gave up sending.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yaakovl on November 17, 2014, 10:08:12 PM
I have been doing it for a long time already and they gave up sending.
they didn't give up sending, every 4 years (presidential election) the federal jury wheel is refilled...
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: DMYD on November 17, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
they didn't give up sending, every 4 years (presidential election) the federal jury wheel is refilled...
Ok I won't get bored throwing it in the trash.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yaakovl on November 17, 2014, 10:12:16 PM
Ok I won't get bored throwing it in the trash.
lol

I must say though, any frum jew from Rockland County who gets federal jury duty should serve, they might end up on the trial of the people who got picked up last week....
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: DMYD on November 17, 2014, 10:16:23 PM
lol

I must say though, any frum jew from Rockland County who gets federal jury duty should serve, they might end up on the trial of the people who got picked up last week....
I'm sure they will make sure no Jew will be there.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yaakovl on November 17, 2014, 10:22:59 PM
I'm sure they will make sure no Jew will be there.
not really up to them, each side will get a limited amount of jurors to toss for no reason
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: meshugener on November 17, 2014, 10:30:02 PM
To me it seemed like they get to do whatever they want and they would have no problem dismissing any jew on that jury.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yaakovl on November 17, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
To me it seemed like they get to do whatever they want and they would have no problem dismissing any jew on that jury.
if enough people show up (who receive summonses) to serve, and are dismissed (solely) for being Jewish it would be grounds for an appeal.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: samtam on July 27, 2015, 10:57:39 PM
I have got in the last half year 2 questioners by mail to apply for jury duty but i ignored it,
Yesterday i got a letter stating that since i ignored the previous letters, i have to come down personally to downtown bklyn to fill out the questioner
Within 10 days of the letter, or i can get fined or imprisonment,
Anybody here with previous experience on this ?
Same thing just happened to me anyone have any experience with this? What did you do? What happened?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: noturbizniss on July 27, 2015, 11:17:37 PM
Same thing just happened to me anyone have any experience with this? What did you do? What happened?
How about you do your civic duty and stop trying to beat the system. You want to vote then do your duty.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: DMYD on July 27, 2015, 11:33:46 PM
Same thing just happened to me anyone have any experience with this? What did you do? What happened?
Just wait fir the next one and fill it out.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: joshnuss on August 04, 2015, 09:03:16 PM
I got jury duty in Toms river NJ when i will be on vacation what should i do about it? How to get rid of it.
I already sent in The Questionnaire and they sent back "your request to be excused has been denied" blaaaaaaaaaaaa >:(
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: noturbizniss on August 05, 2015, 04:22:06 PM
I got jury duty in Toms river NJ when i will be on vacation what should i do about it? How to get rid of it.
I already sent in The Questionnaire and they sent back "your request to be excused has been denied" blaaaaaaaaaaaa >:(
Have you postponed before? Iinm, if you go down and show proof of flight or hotel booking they'll defer it
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: joshnuss on August 10, 2015, 07:22:53 PM
i sent them email and they pushed it off for 6 months yay. Wonder how many times i can try this?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on August 10, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
You sent them proof ?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: joshnuss on August 10, 2015, 07:45:52 PM
You sent them proof ?
nope just made up some story about being out of country
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: zale on September 20, 2015, 11:44:43 PM
I already pushed off Jury duty twice, and the next date I need to show up is on the 22nd (erev YK). There is absolutely no way that I can make it there tomorrow or Tuesday. Should I just show up Thursday morning and explain that it was Yom Kippur?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: lubaby on October 22, 2015, 01:42:13 PM
Lunch at Lait Cafe (http://www.laitcafe.com/).

New-ish Kosher Cholov Yisroel opened nearby.
Downtown Brooklyn Courthouse.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: gubevo18 on May 15, 2016, 08:40:42 PM
A relative of mine got jury duty. They said since it was pushed off once it can't be pushed off again. Is that true? HUCA works by these things?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yochiek93 on May 15, 2016, 08:44:13 PM
A relative of mine got jury duty. They said since it was pushed off once it can't be pushed off again. Is that true? HUCA works by these things?
Iinm it can be pushed off twice
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: lubaby on May 15, 2016, 08:44:47 PM
A relative of mine got jury duty. They said since it was pushed off once it can't be pushed off again. Is that true? HUCA works by these things?
How about you do your civic duty and stop trying to beat the system. You want to vote then do your duty.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yochiek93 on May 15, 2016, 08:46:19 PM

Good point
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on May 15, 2016, 08:53:02 PM

Maybe he's one of those who don't want to vote this time around. :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: David Smith on May 15, 2016, 08:57:59 PM

The criminal justice system is an abomination. I would understand why any law abiding citizen would want nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: lubaby on May 15, 2016, 09:18:19 PM
Maybe he's one of those who don't want to vote this time around. :)
I don't vote any time around and I still went to Jury Duty.

The criminal justice system is an abomination. I would understand why any law abiding citizen would want nothing to do with it.
So is our political system.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: whYME on May 15, 2016, 09:49:42 PM
The criminal justice system is an abomination. I would understand why any law abiding citizen would want nothing to do with it.

I figure that if I want to be able to complain about the justice system I need to do my part. I can't keep getting out of jury duty then complain that other people are getting it wrong.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on May 15, 2016, 11:45:12 PM
How about you do your civic duty and stop trying to beat the system. You want to vote then do your duty.

Now, if only I could trade in my civic (jury) duty, in exchange for giving up my "right" to vote, I would probably do it (though I would consult my LOR to verify that it is permissible).
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: noturbizniss on May 15, 2016, 11:48:16 PM
Now, if only I could trade in my civic (jury) duty, in exchange for giving up my "right" to vote, I would probably do it (though I would consult my LOR to verify that it is permissible).
Hmmmm. Can you  unregister to vote?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on May 15, 2016, 11:50:29 PM
Are we going to do this again? Last time we had this conversation someone left the forums.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yochiek93 on May 16, 2016, 12:18:38 AM
Are we going to do this again? Last time we had this conversation someone left the forums.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: JTZ on May 16, 2016, 02:42:00 AM
Are we going to do this again? Last time we had this conversation someone left the forums.
Hopefully that someone was trying to get out of jury duty. Don't need those types anyway.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Emkay on May 16, 2016, 02:54:58 AM
A relative of mine got jury duty. They said since it was pushed off once it can't be pushed off again. Is that true? HUCA works by these things?


I already pushed off Jury duty twice.

Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: emjee on May 16, 2016, 05:56:03 AM
Iinm it can be pushed off twice
I think even more than that. Last time I was given jury duty I didn't respond (negligently) . They served me a subpoena (however you spell it). I went down to the courts office and showed them I was out if the country I will continue to be by showing them a booked flight. They excused me. It might be I got off easy though.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: gubevo18 on May 16, 2016, 07:08:56 PM

why assume he is wiggling out? First time around was right before his wedding and now he is out of town for that date.
And yes I would give up jury duty if it came with  giving up voting, especially this November.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: emak on May 18, 2016, 09:37:32 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed..if I moved to NJ and I got summoned from NY how can I get out of it? I believe it had been postponed already. What's my best options? TIA
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: noturbizniss on May 19, 2016, 06:33:09 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed..if I moved to NJ and I got summoned from NY how can I get out of it? I believe it had been postponed already. What's my best options? TIA
GIYF
https://www.google.com/search?q=jury+duty+after+moving

http://www.nyjuror.gov/moved.shtml
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: sams on June 30, 2016, 01:54:54 AM
I missed jury duty twice in Brooklyn ,now they send me letter that I need to show up for non compliance or else can charge me fine/imprisonment .need to take it serious??
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on June 30, 2016, 08:24:37 AM
I missed jury duty twice in Brooklyn ,now they send me letter that I need to show up for non compliance or else can charge me fine/imprisonment .need to take it serious??
If they can prove you where actually delinquent, yes, you can go to jail.
Why do people think that jury duty is fun amd games? It's a crime to miss it and if they decide to track you to see if you actually get the letters, you'll be put up in jail and get fined heavily.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 30, 2016, 09:17:26 AM
If they can prove you where actually delinquent, yes, you can go to jail.
Why do people think that jury duty is fun amd games? It's a crime to miss it and if they decide to track you to see if you actually get the letters, you'll be put up in jail and get fined heavily.
amen
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: shwarmabob on June 30, 2016, 11:29:12 AM
I missed jury duty twice in Brooklyn ,now they send me letter that I need to show up for non compliance or else can charge me fine/imprisonment .need to take it serious??
definitely.
it's easy to get out of it once you are there already, if you choose to do so.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: JTZ on June 30, 2016, 03:51:54 PM
Why do people think that jury duty is fun amd games?
I have been on a few jury's I can tell you it is fun but no games.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: noturbizniss on July 03, 2016, 10:34:50 AM
I missed jury duty twice in Brooklyn ,now they send me letter that I need to show up for non compliance or else can charge me fine/imprisonment .need to take it serious??
Nah you can ignore it. Theyr just messing with you.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Zalc on July 03, 2016, 12:40:38 PM
I missed jury duty twice in Brooklyn ,now they send me letter that I need to show up for non compliance or else can charge me fine/imprisonment .need to take it serious??
Technically, you can claim ignorance until you get a letter via registered mail. CMIIW.

Realistically, the best option is to show up late.

If you come before (IIRC) 10:00 they will still accept you for the day, but most jury selections happen far before then.

When I went, they only had 3 selection the entire time from 10 to the end.

And those selections are usually to choose "Alternates" to the actual jury, so they only need 2 or 3 of the people they pull in, so it shouldn't be too hard to not get chosen.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mgarfin on July 04, 2016, 01:00:57 PM
Any reports of someone getting in trouble in NY for ignoring JD?

I only know of ppl ignoring it for some 20 years.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Zalc on July 04, 2016, 01:24:03 PM
Any reports of someone getting in trouble in NY for ignoring JD?

I only know of ppl ignoring it for some 20 years.
I know of someone who had a officer come to them one day and take them to jury duty.

But I know many more who are ignoring it for years.
Title: Jury Duty
Post by: metsgiantsfan on July 04, 2016, 06:13:01 PM
I received a jury duty summons for tomorrow...I am actually selling my house in NY and going to close on it in the next  3-4 days...with that said. if selected for a case, i wont be a ny resident the time the case begins..i am afraid they are going to say until they see a signed contract they wont dismiss me..any advice?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on July 04, 2016, 07:23:06 PM
I know of someone who had a officer come to them one day and take them to jury duty.

But I know many more who are ignoring it for years.

Which State/County?

I think in Kings County NY they have no shortage.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Zalc on July 04, 2016, 07:24:00 PM
Which State/County?

I think in Kings County NY they have no shortage.
Kings county.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: lubaby on July 04, 2016, 07:35:46 PM
No need for a new thread.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=14538.0
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: mendy from lakewood on July 09, 2016, 10:15:29 PM
Hey guys, I lost my jury duty card (ocean county) so don't know which group I'm in, anyone know how To get it.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on October 21, 2016, 10:40:26 AM
They refuse to let me not serve today because of YT, unless I reschedule. Rescheduling isnt an option for me because that'll just have me push it off again because I'm never home. So I'll be going in circles for years. I told her that and she told me to sit down (and I guess I have to hope I dont get I chosen or I'll need to repeat the process because I'll miss monday/Tuesday)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on October 21, 2016, 10:47:31 AM
They refuse to let me not serve today because of YT, unless I reschedule. Rescheduling isnt an option for me because that'll just have me push it off again because I'm never home. So I'll be going in circles for years. I told her that and she told me to sit down (and I guess I have to hope I dont get I chosen or I'll need to repeat the process because I'll miss monday/Tuesday)

I would guess that your best bet is to get disqualified. BTW I think this is another huge advantage of living in Brooklyn, not hard to get out of jury duty or to just ignore.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on October 21, 2016, 10:48:44 AM
I would guess that your best bet is to get disqualified. BTW I think this is another huge advantage of living in Brooklyn, not hard to get out of jury duty or to just ignore.
I'm simply gonna tell the lawyers I have a holiday. Not much gain in them choosing me if at the end of the day they'll end up with Thier secind pick.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yitzf on October 21, 2016, 10:55:09 AM
They refuse to let me not serve today because of YT, unless I reschedule. Rescheduling isnt an option for me because that'll just have me push it off again because I'm never home. So I'll be going in circles for years. I told her that and she told me to sit down (and I guess I have to hope I dont get I chosen or I'll need to repeat the process because I'll miss monday/Tuesday)

Once you get into the courtroom you'll have the opportunity to request from the judge to excuse you. If the scheduled trial is over yom tov he'll almost certainly let you go.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on October 21, 2016, 10:59:52 AM
Once you get into the courtroom you'll have the opportunity to request from the judge to excuse you. If the scheduled trial is over yom tov he'll almost certainly let you go.
Aaaaand I missed the first two selections.
I'll be here all day.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on October 21, 2016, 11:20:23 AM
Aaaaand I missed the first two selections.
I'll be here all day.
Try singing Allahu Akbar, might get you thrown out  ;D
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on October 21, 2016, 02:34:53 PM
Free for 4 years! B"H!!!
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: yakov116 on October 21, 2016, 02:35:26 PM
Free for 4 years! B"H!!!
Bh
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on October 21, 2016, 03:32:04 PM
Free for 4 years! B"H!!!
B.H.

Did the singing I suggested work, or was it something else ;D

Interesting how your jury duty cycle coincides with the election.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on October 21, 2016, 03:34:16 PM


B.H.

Did the singing I suggested work, or was it something else ;D
No, I did not sing. Just never got picked
B.H.
Interesting how your jury duty cycle coincides with the election.

Um, how does my jury duty have anything to do with the election?


Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on October 21, 2016, 03:54:17 PM
No, I did not sing. Just never got picked
Question is how long did you have to wait in order to "not get picked", I suggested a fast track option for that  ;D

Um, how does my jury duty have anything to do with the election?
You might be free of Jury duty for the next 4 years, but you will have to suffer under a new POTUS for the next 4 years  :(
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: myi on October 23, 2016, 01:42:00 AM
Curios who made up $40? 
was is to do with the minimum wage?  Or anything alike? 

Wonder if trump would up the JD?   
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: TimT on October 23, 2016, 01:51:36 AM
Wonder if trump would up the JD?   
Nah, he'll just deport or execute 'em all. No jury needed :)
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: myi on October 23, 2016, 02:00:20 AM
Nah, he'll just deport or execute 'em all. No jury needed :)
Haha! 
Knowing him that's probably what he will do! Either prison or scot free, who needs 6 months of deciding! 
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: Zalc on October 23, 2016, 02:31:07 AM


Question is how long did you have to wait in order to "not get picked", I suggested a fast track option for that  ;D
Yeah, check in at 9:50 am, so they still need to take you that day, but 90% of selections have been done by then already... And show up with something useful to do.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: MeirS on October 23, 2016, 02:37:26 AM
Can a mod change the title to Jury Duty or jury duty?
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: myi on October 23, 2016, 02:38:18 AM
Can a mod change the title to Jury Duty or jury duty?
Really bothers you that one is capital and one not? 
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: myi on October 23, 2016, 02:39:27 AM
Can a mod change the title to Jury Duty or jury duty?
Best way to catch there attention would be to report to a mod! (report your own post and write what you want! )
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: MeirS on October 23, 2016, 02:41:53 AM
Best way to catch there attention would be to report to a mod! (report your own post and write what you want! )
I'm not desperate enough to bother then with it. It just irks me. Either they'll see it or they won't.
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: myi on October 23, 2016, 02:43:24 AM
I'm not desperate enough to bother then with it. It just irks me. Either they'll see it or they won't.
Sounds like it bothers you enough to post it! I will go and report to mod for you!   ;D
Title: Re: jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on October 23, 2016, 08:13:21 AM
Yeah, check in at 9:50 am, so they still need to take you that day, but 90% of selections have been done by then already... And show up with something useful to do.
Selections by me were done at around 10:20.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 29, 2016, 10:57:09 PM
I keep forgetting, is jury duty linked to ones license or no?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: incendia on October 30, 2016, 01:47:03 AM
I keep forgetting, is jury duty linked to ones license or no?
.
no
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: shulem92 on October 30, 2016, 02:14:39 AM
I keep forgetting, is jury duty linked to ones license or no?
IME yes. I got jury duty in NY, and the only part of me that resides in NY is my license . otherwise I'm a full time nj resident
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: myi on October 30, 2016, 03:44:40 AM
I keep forgetting, is jury duty linked to ones license or no?
One thing I could tell you! While I had a permit or any of my family members which have had a permit or still has a permit!(and is the legal age to begin getting jury duty), We have never gotten Jury duty until we got our licenses!
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: myi on October 30, 2016, 03:46:04 AM
I keep forgetting, is jury duty linked to ones license or no?
One thing I could tell you! While I had a permit or any of my family members which have had a permit or still has a permit!(and is the legal age to begin getting jury duty), We have never gotten Jury duty until we got our licenses!
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: mancunian on October 30, 2016, 09:42:15 PM
I keep forgetting, is jury duty linked to ones license or no?
One thing I can tell you, is I never got jury duty on my California license until I got pulled over and the cop took down a California address for me...

I recently got a letter from NY to confirm my jury duty eligibility - never happened before. Came to my wife's old address which was on my tax return.

So, like, is this something I'm supposed to follow up with?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: dsw193 on October 30, 2016, 09:47:16 PM


So, like, is this something I'm supposed to follow up with?
If you do they'll call you.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ShmuliT on December 13, 2016, 12:00:09 AM
I see this thread was started in 2012.
Based on this and similar threads, some insist that if you ignore a "delinquent notice" letter they send you its ok, as its not certified.
Others say you can not ignore the letters.
Four years later, can anyone say they have successfully ignored the letters?
(or are they locked up now with no access to ddf)
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: myi on December 13, 2016, 12:05:54 AM
I see this thread was started in 2012.
Based on this and similar threads, some insist that if you ignore a "delinquent notice" letter they send you its ok, as its not certified.
Others say you can not ignore the letters.
Four years later, can anyone say they have successfully ignored the letters?
(or are they locked up now with no access to ddf)
Btw way when they lock you up they will throw the key away. ;)
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ShmuliT on December 13, 2016, 12:58:59 PM
As long as I have ddf access. Ive got plenty of threads to catch up on.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on December 13, 2016, 01:02:00 PM
I see this thread was started in 2012.
Based on this and similar threads, some insist that if you ignore a "delinquent notice" letter they send you its ok, as its not certified.
Others say you can not ignore the letters.
Four years later, can anyone say they have successfully ignored the letters?
(or are they locked up now with no access to ddf)
I've been ignoring them for years. I don't even know if it says delinquent or not.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: yelped on December 13, 2016, 06:20:43 PM
I've been ignoring them for years. I don't even know if it says delinquent or not.
Same here. They give me 3 warnings. Every 3 letters they start again.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on December 13, 2016, 07:56:48 PM
Same here. They give me 3 warnings. Every 3 letters they start again.
I don't count. It goes straight to the trash.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ShmuliT on December 19, 2016, 03:24:05 PM
I caved in and replied to the letter!
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on December 19, 2016, 09:30:36 PM
I caved in and replied to the letter!
Wow. The pressure must have been immense.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: yelped on December 20, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
Wow. The pressure must have been immense.
Lol. I guess you have time on your hands and you believe in doing your civic duties.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: mancunian on December 20, 2016, 11:56:09 AM
Lol. I guess you have time on your hands or you believe in doing your civic duties.
FTFY
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: yelped on December 20, 2016, 12:00:39 PM
FTFY
Not necessarily. I believe in doing my civic duties, but my duty to put bread on the table for my wife and kids come first.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: mancunian on December 20, 2016, 12:03:20 PM
Not necessarily. I believe in doing my civic duties, but my duty to put bread on the table for my wife and kids come first.
I was discussing jury duty with someone on Shabbos and he tells me "Well they give you 40 bucks..."
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ExGingi on December 20, 2016, 12:13:24 PM
I was discussing jury duty with someone on Shabbos and he tells me "Well they give you 40 bucks..."
What about מדבר דבר?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: JTZ on December 20, 2016, 12:25:40 PM
I was discussing jury duty with someone on Shabbos and he tells me "Well they give you 40 bucks over your normal pay..."
FTFY  :)
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: mancunian on December 20, 2016, 12:46:06 PM
Is it really over your normal pay? I would do jury duty any day - not like any one's docking my pay
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda57 on December 20, 2016, 12:50:30 PM
Is it really over your normal pay? I would do jury duty any day - not like any one's docking my pay

If you have a government job, yes.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: JTZ on December 20, 2016, 01:15:43 PM
Is it really over your normal pay? I would do jury duty any day - not like any one's docking my pay
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ShmuliT on December 21, 2016, 12:50:21 AM
Lol. I guess you have time on your hands and you believe in doing your civic duties.
I've never been, but am curious to be on a jury. Sounds like fun.

And, being that i"m on a set annual salary, I dont think I loose any pay if I need to take off to serve.

" It is an illegal penalty to force an employee to charge jury duty absence against vacation, personal or sick time."

Source: http://www.nyjuror.gov/pdfs/hb_ee.pdf
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: TimT on December 21, 2016, 12:58:14 AM
Sounds like fun.
Not quite. It's a serious responsibility
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: chff on December 21, 2016, 07:33:23 AM
I was discussing jury duty with someone on Shabbos and he tells me "Well they give you 40 bucks..."
As someone explained to me, the parking costs more than $40
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: moko on December 21, 2016, 12:11:03 PM
Not quite. It's a serious responsibility
my job is also a serious responsibility, but I still enjoy it for the most part.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: TimT on December 21, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
my job is also a serious responsibility, but I still enjoy it for the most part.
I meant possibly sending an innocent man away for years or vv.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda57 on December 21, 2016, 01:02:19 PM
I meant possibly sending an innocent man away for years or vv.

Both can be true - that's what I was torn up about. I was enjoying the experience, but didn't want to be saddled with the actual verdict in the end.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Zalc on December 21, 2016, 01:30:38 PM
I see this thread was started in 2012.
Based on this and similar threads, some insist that if you ignore a "delinquent notice" letter they send you its ok, as its not certified.
Others say you can not ignore the letters.
Four years later, can anyone say they have successfully ignored the letters?
(or are they locked up now with no access to ddf)
I know of people who have ignored them for decades without ill effect.

I also know of people who had a sheriff show up at their door and escort them to the courthouse to serve jury duty.

So, like many things on this forum, YMMV.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: mancunian on December 21, 2016, 01:55:23 PM

I also know of people who had a sheriff show up at their door and escort them to the courthouse to serve jury duty.


That's the only repercussion? I'll take my chances
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: TimT on December 21, 2016, 01:59:19 PM
Check upthread. Someone reported something else as well.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: danzz72 on December 21, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
Hey guys - i got a second jury duty notice to supreme court ... i postponed twice and the first time i actually was summoned i was absent... How bad is it if i dont show up to my second summons? i will actually not even be there becuase ill be out of the state for training anyone have experience with what happens next.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 15, 2017, 10:43:15 AM
If I send them a paystub and a breakdown of monthly expenses. Will that be enough to show financial hardship ?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: gozalim on January 15, 2017, 04:37:27 PM
I've never been, but am curious to be on a jury. Sounds like fun.

And, being that i"m on a set annual salary, I dont think I loose any pay if I need to take off to serve.

" It is an illegal penalty to force an employee to charge jury duty absence against vacation, personal or sick time."

Source: http://www.nyjuror.gov/pdfs/hb_ee.pdf
double check your company policy...
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: cholent on January 15, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
If I send them a paystub and a breakdown of monthly expenses. Will that be enough to show financial hardship ?
I don't think there are set rules about what qualifies as financial hardship, but documentation like that should help
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 21, 2017, 07:22:53 PM
If I send them a paystub and a breakdown of monthly expenses. Will that be enough to show financial hardship ?
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Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: coralsnake on January 21, 2017, 08:42:18 PM
FTFY  :)
The public sector employer is not required to pay the employee for the day at jury duty. At least in NY
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on January 29, 2017, 10:52:39 AM
I have jury duty for the day after Pesach. Pushed it off twice in person already, but really would like to take a trip then. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: cholent on January 30, 2017, 03:18:38 AM
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Congrats
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Wizard on May 23, 2017, 02:48:10 PM
Anyone know how long you get excused for after serving Jury duty in NY? I heard 8 years and 2 years - which one is correct and is there a diff if I get called in for questions or just wait all day and not get called?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: dsw193 on May 23, 2017, 03:07:01 PM
Anyone know how long you get excused for after serving Jury duty in NY? I heard 8 years and 2 years - which one is correct and is there a diff if I get called in for questions or just wait all day and not get called?
A minimum of 2.

Quote
A person who has served on a trial jury or grand jury in any court of record within the State, including service as set forth in section 128.8 of this Part or service in a Federal court, is disqualified from further jury service, pursuant to section 524 of the Judiciary Law, for six years following the completion of jury service, and shall not be summoned for such service within that period, except that where, as provided in subdivision (c) of section 524, the commissioner of jurors has determined that compliance with the six-year period would be impracticable, such period of disqualification may be reduced to not less than two years for persons whose service consisted of fewer than three days, and such person shall not be summoned for jury service within such reduced period. Where a person serves on a trial jury or grand jury for more than 10 days, that person is disqualified from further jury service for eight years. For purposes of this subdivision, jury service shall include service in the court and telephone standby service.

Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Abebee on May 23, 2017, 03:24:20 PM
Anyone know how long you get excused for after serving Jury duty in NY? I heard 8 years and 2 years - which one is correct and is there a diff if I get called in for questions or just wait all day and not get called?
I got 8
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Wizard on May 23, 2017, 03:32:30 PM
A minimum of 2.
I got 8
Thanks but I'm still not clear - why do some people get 2 and some get 8?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: dsw193 on May 23, 2017, 03:56:30 PM
Thanks but I'm still not clear - why do some people get 2 and some get 8?
I got eight as well and wasn't even called.


It looks like federal​ minimum is 2 yrs and it varies by jurisdiction.

Each jurisdiction treats it differently as well as federal vs State and I'm confused as well (not gonna post it, although you can look it up on nys/federal courts site ny amongst others and get more confused)
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Wizard on May 23, 2017, 03:59:30 PM
I got eight as well and wasn't even called.


It looks like federal​ minimum is 2 yrs and it varies by jurisdiction.

Each jurisdiction treats it differently as well as federal vs State and I'm confused as well (not gonna post it, although you can look it up on nys/federal courts site ny amongst others and get more confused)
Ok thank you! Yes I looked already and got confused :)
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: chinagel on May 23, 2017, 03:59:43 PM
Anyone know how long you get excused for after serving Jury duty in NY? I heard 8 years and 2 years - which one is correct and is there a diff if I get called in for questions or just wait all day and not get called?
i got 8
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Wizard on May 23, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
i got 8
Were you called in for questioning (vior dire)?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: chinagel on May 23, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Were you called in for questioning (vior dire)?
i actually got selected but the case never went to trial. had to sit around for a few days while the lawyers haggled over a deal. (lady tripped on sidewalk)
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Wizard on May 23, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
i actually got selected but the case never went to trial. had to sit around for a few days while the lawyers haggled over a deal. (lady tripped on sidewalk)
I hear. Seems like everyone gets 8 years. Thanks
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda57 on May 23, 2017, 04:32:30 PM
I hear. Seems like everyone gets 8 years. Thanks

I got 2-8 years, but got off for good behavior.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Wizard on May 23, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
I got 2-8 years, but got off for good behavior.
Lol 😂 in fact, those convicted of a felony aren't allowed to serve as jurors. There's a bright side to being a criminal.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Abebee on May 23, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
Were you called in for questioning (vior dire)?
I was called in, but didnt make it to a case...
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: RockaHocka on May 26, 2017, 09:32:31 AM
In Baltimore, nearly every 6 weeks someone in my family will be summoned. (6 Adults). Anyone else get summoned at least once a year?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: VLK on May 30, 2017, 06:18:56 AM
I am currently leavong in Israel and my wife got a summons to report to jusry duty in NYC. What am i supposed to do ?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: noturbizniss on May 30, 2017, 06:43:59 AM
I am currently leavong in Israel and my wife got a summons to report to jusry duty in NYC. What am i supposed to do ?
Have you legally moved? If so you respond that you no longer live in NY.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: BP16 on May 30, 2017, 09:10:22 AM
I am currently leavong in Israel and my wife got a summons to report to jusry duty in NYC. What am i supposed to do ?
Ignore it. Have a safe trip!
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: aygart on May 30, 2017, 09:15:59 AM
Ignore it. Have a safe trip!
I don't recommend ignoring it since that can lead to an outstanding warrant.

You are better off by just responding that she is out of the country while you complete your studies.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: BP16 on May 30, 2017, 09:17:59 AM
I don't recommend ignoring it since that can lead to an outstanding warrant.

You are better off by just responding that she is out of the country while you complete your studies.
They can't send a warrant when they have no proof that it was delivered
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: chinagel on May 30, 2017, 10:13:48 AM
I don't recommend ignoring it since that can lead to an outstanding warrant.

You are better off by just responding that she is out of the country while you complete your studies.
if she can prove she didnt live there shell be fine
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: aygart on May 30, 2017, 10:27:34 AM
if she can prove she didnt live there shell be fine
Other than the hassle of needing to prove it
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: chff on May 30, 2017, 10:31:42 AM
Can I get out of Jury Duty as being a Small business owner/employee?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: chinagel on May 30, 2017, 11:41:28 AM
Other than the hassle of needing to prove it
showing her tickets or visa should be fine. not any more of a hassle than jury duty itself
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: aygart on May 30, 2017, 11:45:00 AM
showing her tickets or visa should be fine. not any more of a hassle than jury duty itself
But less of a hassle than writing a reply to them beforehand.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: VLK on June 02, 2017, 09:51:28 AM
I am currently leavong in Israel and my wife got a summons to report to jusry duty in NYC. What am i supposed to do ?
Just a follow up..... I called them and they had me send in a bill with my wifes name on it and a address in israel ( even though it was all in hebrew) they accepted it and said she was taken off the list.
Thanx for all the input
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 07, 2017, 10:04:46 AM
Anyone know what time I can expect it to be over at Manhattan Supreme Court?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: shwarmabob on August 07, 2017, 01:02:14 PM
Anyone know what time I can expect it to be over at Manhattan Supreme Court?
1st day presentation, paperwork, selection (if you are not selected) took about half a day. We were out at 1pm
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 07, 2017, 01:16:49 PM
1st day presentation, paperwork, selection (if you are not selected) took about half a day. We were out at 1pm

Good to know. Thanks!
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: chff on November 27, 2017, 01:07:09 AM
So any Kosher food in the Brooklyn area?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Yaalili on November 27, 2017, 06:53:29 AM
So any Kosher food in the Brooklyn area?

JJ's Holy Cow food truck is in the area sometimes.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Z56 on March 05, 2018, 11:28:46 PM
Got a Summons in the mail today

Whatís the best way out of this ? Or do I go and donít hear from them for the next 8 years ?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: DTM on March 05, 2018, 11:52:17 PM
Got a Summons in the mail today

Whatís the best way out of this ? Or do I go and donít hear from them for the next 8 years ?
First, you get one easy postponement just for the asking. So do that for as late a date as possible. Maybe Moshiach will come in the interim. Then, if you have no legitimate excuse, just do the time.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: hvaces42 on March 05, 2018, 11:52:42 PM
Got a Summons in the mail today

Whatís the best way out of this ? Or do I go and donít hear from them for the next 8 years ?
My daughter got exemption for 3 years because she is in school. Waited until they threatened fine before showing up.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Z56 on March 06, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Got a Summons in the mail today

Whatís the best way out of this ? Or do I go and donít hear from them for the next 8 years ?

Just realized its a grand jury if that make a difference ? If I decide to go and get over this, any got excuses to get exempt of a grand jury ?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: gozalim on March 06, 2018, 11:22:25 AM
Just realized its a grand jury if that make a difference ? If I decide to go and get over this, any got excuses to get exempt of a grand jury ?
much tougher
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: DTM on March 06, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
Being a student usually gets you a postponement until the summer break. Being the primary caregiver of an infant or pre-school child often works as well for an indefinite postponement.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Z56 on March 06, 2018, 11:50:10 AM
much tougher

Anyone with a good excuse that would work ?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: cholent on March 06, 2018, 11:52:38 AM
Anyone with a good excuse that would work ?
Personally when I got a Grand jury summons I responded that I was the breadwinner for my family and could not afford a 20% loss of salary for 1/3 of a year. I was excused without having to come down.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Z56 on March 06, 2018, 11:57:27 AM
Personally when I got a Grand jury summons I responded that I was the breadwinner for my family and could not afford a 20% loss of salary for 1/3 of a year. I was excused without having to come down.

Thanks
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: gozalim on March 06, 2018, 12:49:52 PM
much tougher
basically, all the 'bias' style excuses are irrelevant.
most of the pool gets 'picked'
and when you're on, it's (usually) 2 full weeks, full day work hearing multiple cases
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: gingyguy on March 06, 2018, 12:53:12 PM
Being a student usually gets you a postponement until the summer break. Being the primary caregiver of an infant or pre-school child often works as well for an indefinite postponement.
i got a postponement . the next day they gave me was shemini atzeres ... that got me excused!
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: kelev on November 02, 2018, 06:41:34 AM
I am upset for wasting my time on jury duty. I did not want to be there but could not leave, it felt like my freedom of movement was violated. And of course one has to listen to all the goverment propaganda (USA! USA! USA!) that is repeated over and over brainwashing nationalistic superiority using patriotism (a strong feeling, USA! USA! USA!) to justify the waste of time and violation of freedom of movement.

When I got called to the interview, I said that only criminals run from the police, the lawyer, an old man named Goldman, argued that maybe the police had arrested the wrong man, entirely possible!
Next I replied that I believe that the police know what theyíre doing, and that was that, dismissed.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: grodnoking on November 02, 2018, 09:29:15 AM
Someone I know is a state employee. Gets full salary on jury duty, plus the $40 a day, no days deducted from work.
He got called up for a grand jury, for every Thursday of the year. He did it for a half year, every Thursday, started at 10 usually ended around 2-3. He's one of the only guys who got jury duty who loved it.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: aygart on November 02, 2018, 09:54:13 AM
Someone I know is a state employee. Gets full salary on jury duty, plus the $40 a day, no days deducted from work.
He got called up for a grand jury, for every Thursday of the year. He did it for a half year, every Thursday, started at 10 usually ended around 2-3. He's one of the only guys who got jury duty who loved it.
There are always volunteers in the pool.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda57 on November 02, 2018, 10:21:09 AM
I am upset for wasting my time on jury duty. I did not want to be there but could not leave, it felt like my freedom of movement was violated. And of course one has to listen to all the goverment propaganda (USA! USA! USA!) that is repeated over and over brainwashing nationalistic superiority using patriotism (a strong feeling, USA! USA! USA!) to justify the waste of time and violation of freedom of movement.

When I got called to the interview, I said that only criminals run from the police, the lawyer, an old man named Goldman, argued that maybe the police had arrested the wrong man, entirely possible!
Next I replied that I believe that the police know what theyíre doing, and that was that, dismissed.

My heart bleeds cherry custard for you
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: shwarmabob on November 02, 2018, 10:54:57 AM
I am upset for wasting my time on jury duty. I did not want to be there but could not leave, it felt like my freedom of movement was violated. And of course one has to listen to all the goverment propaganda (USA! USA! USA!) that is repeated over and over brainwashing nationalistic superiority using patriotism (a strong feeling, USA! USA! USA!) to justify the waste of time and violation of freedom of movement.

When I got called to the interview, I said that only criminals run from the police, the lawyer, an old man named Goldman, argued that maybe the police had arrested the wrong man, entirely possible!
Next I replied that I believe that the police know what theyíre doing, and that was that, dismissed.
Old times who came over from Europe used to make a kiddush when they became US citizens.  ;) I assume you saved yourself a kiddush lol
In other countries, you would have to serve in the army.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 02, 2018, 11:17:08 AM
How many times can I get a postponement? I got a postponement once until June...
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: shaulyaakov on November 02, 2018, 02:01:31 PM
How many times can I get a postponement? I got a postponement once until June...

What city/state?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: tzifanya54 on November 03, 2018, 09:22:46 PM
What city/state?
Passaic NJ
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ual902 on February 05, 2019, 04:29:29 PM
Lawyers asked if anyone is traveling, said yes will that get excused from the case and not be postponed?
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: shaulyaakov on February 05, 2019, 06:42:21 PM
Lawyers asked if anyone is traveling, said yes will that get excused from the case and not be postponed?
It should. Make sure you have documentation from before you were summoned.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: beeweegee on February 05, 2019, 07:36:39 PM
It should. Make sure you have documentation from before you were summoned.
...And that the travel is non-refundable. At least IME.
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: ADG on February 07, 2019, 10:20:47 AM
Any tips for reporting to brooklyn heights for JD?

(I have used up all my deferments)
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: JuryDuty on February 28, 2019, 03:43:00 PM
Don't try this.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/potential-juror-yells-he-is-guilty-and-winds-up-jailed
Title: Re: Jury Duty
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 28, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
Don't try this.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/potential-juror-yells-he-is-guilty-and-winds-up-jailed
ouch