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Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mikeoracle on December 17, 2009, 10:21:08 AM
I wouldnt look for a *W Hotel in Jeru for yrs or decades to come. Hyatt,Hilton,Marriott,Best Western, Days Inn,HoJo, are all part of the past as well
Arent they putting up a Waldorf Astoria down the block from the former Sheraton Plaza in J-M? Is there any info out there regarding if they will be participating in the HHonors program and accepting award reservations?
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: steve2 on December 17, 2009, 11:39:05 AM
Arent they putting up a Waldorf Astoria down the block from the former Sheraton Plaza in J-M? Is there any info out there regarding if they will be participating in the HHonors program and accepting award reservations?

 Well originally it said Dec 2010, which has been taken down. When last over there in Oct it doesnt seem any work had been done on the project for months. So who knows when it will be finished if ever built at all.

Then once finished it will be a WA Collection I believe a night off-peak starts at 50k per night with peak being 60-80k. there are different levels within the WA, not known where this Hotel will fall. But for me it will take too mnay pts to be worth it

 No sense worrying about a Hotel that is still yrs off from opening up
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: Mikeoracle on December 17, 2009, 11:44:25 AM
Thanks for that update, I was there in March last year and saw the sign for 2010 opening and was wondering about the progress. I actually started accumulating some Hilton points on the side in anticipation of an eventual stay there.... Oh well  :-\
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: jack on December 17, 2009, 12:29:57 PM
I am spending $$ on a Hilton card exclusively for this hotel - I hope they won't disappoint.
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: steve2 on December 17, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
Thanks for that update, I was there in March last year and saw the sign for 2010 opening and was wondering about the progress. I actually started accumulating some Hilton points on the side in anticipation of an eventual stay there.... Oh well  :-\

 also keep in mind the vast part of the project was Private apts and not the Hotel itself. In this great economic arena we are in who knows how many apts were sold. Im sure they figured on using the funds from the apts to fund the construction of the whole project.

 So my Guess is that till they start Closing on a good amount of the apts they arent going to do too much in teh way of building and maybe end up with alot of unsold apts and lose alot of $$$.

 Even Mamilla isnt getting the #s they had hoped for, it was built before the down turn was even on the horizon. Heck it was so bad that the Citadel took whatever res they were able to for Succos in past yrs it was 10 nights or No room. This yr they grabbed those who only wanted to be there on Yom Tov itself and not Chol Ha Moed

 also are you aware that as of 1/15 most every Hilton will be going up by 1 Cat level, or 5k in pts per night?  http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/landing/RewardFAQ/index.do

 that doesnt have the WA on it but Im sure the WA in Jeru will get 60-80k per night. Too much for Me
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: steve2 on December 17, 2009, 12:40:19 PM
I am spending $$ on a Hilton card exclusively for this hotel - I hope they won't disappoint.

 A pure Waste IMO

 then again thats what I did when The Hilton David Citadel was being built and they went under only to be bought out by the Alrov Group who Dumped Hilton

 look at Vegas how many new projects have kept changing afilliations with different Hotels, its mind blowing , in some cases the same Hotel building went thru numerous changes and some still havent broken ground and probabaly never will

 Id never spend today based on what might be in 3 yrs from now, by then it probably will take even more pts per night

 Id say youd be better off using a different CC and the $$ you save by getting either a % back or for free flights, save that up in order to pay for your Stay at a Jeru Hotel
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: Dan on December 17, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
If you're hilton elite (just having their credit card makes you elite) then you can stay at Waldorf Astoria's for as little as 37,500 points even under the new chart with a longer stay:
http://www.hilton.com/en/promotions/media/PDF/2010RewardChart_V1_9-25-2009.pdf
There are 16 Group A Waldorf's, 1 group B's, 2 group C's.  No idea where J'lem might fall.

If it does become a group A or B I would probably burn 18,750 AA miles per night for a week stay without much hesitation.
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: steve2 on December 17, 2009, 01:34:30 PM
If you're hilton elite (just having their credit card makes you elite) then you can stay at Waldorf Astoria's for as little as 37,500 points even under the new chart with a longer stay:
http://www.hilton.com/en/promotions/media/PDF/2010RewardChart_V1_9-25-2009.pdf
There are 16 Group A Waldorf's, 1 group B's, 2 group C's.  No idea where J'lem might fall.

If it does become a group A or B I would probably burn 18,750 AA miles per night for a week stay without much hesitation.

 I dont think I would, but it would depend on where else I would stay and what that would run me. I dont think I would have gone with the Plaza as a Cat4 either even thou 5 nights would have 40k except maybe for Succos. and who knows if the WA will ever open as a WA and then if they will allow free stays over Succos

Too many unknowns for me and since the Hotel is yrs away from being open, not worth worrying or thinking about if I will beable to stay there using Pts and how many it will be or figuring out the best way to get HH Pts, simply because what can be done today might not beable to be done next month forget about in 2-3 yrs and the ratio most likely will change as well

 But with over 1M in HH pts it would be a nice place to burn some of them
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: moish on December 17, 2009, 04:04:40 PM
If you're hilton elite (just having their credit card makes you elite) then you can stay at Waldorf Astoria's for as little as 37,500 points even under the new chart with a longer stay:
http://www.hilton.com/en/promotions/media/PDF/2010RewardChart_V1_9-25-2009.pdf
There are 16 Group A Waldorf's, 1 group B's, 2 group C's.  No idea where J'lem might fall.

If it does become a group A or B I would probably burn 18,750 AA miles per night for a week stay without much hesitation.
dan how do you turn 18750 aa to 37500 hh?
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: steve2 on December 17, 2009, 04:12:33 PM
dan how do you turn 18750 aa to 37500 hh?

 I took it that AA lets you transfer into HH at the ratio of 2 HH for every 1 AA, if I remember correctly its 3 HH into 1 AA going HH to AA
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: Dan on December 17, 2009, 05:05:37 PM
dan how do you turn 18750 aa to 37500 hh?
https://commerce.points.com/landing/redeemv2.htm?_flowExecutionKey=_c24BDE73F-C0D6-8036-B3CB-DEBB9835940A_k1DEB4779-328C-B3C8-7F1B-599931756B6F
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: steve2 on December 17, 2009, 05:56:34 PM
I took it that AA lets you transfer into HH at the ratio of 2 HH for every 1 AA, if I remember correctly its 3 HH into 1 AA going HH to AA

 want to possibily correct myself the 30k in pts to 10k in miles would be from Marriott to AA, is a sliding scale that starts at 10000 pts = 2000 miles and the more pts gets more miles top level offered is 125,000 MR pts = 50k in Miles  There are 3 different levels each according to the different Carriers this is the best level.

 Boy do I have egg on my face ; 10,000 HH pts = 1,500 AA miles!!  so if you do transfer from AA to HH you better make sure you can get what you want since the 18,750 AA miles may = 37,500 HH pts but 37500 HH pts = only 5600 AA miles
Title: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: jack on April 13, 2010, 09:40:06 PM
man the busted (sheraton) plaza deal...  I started saving Hilton points for the waldorf that is supposed to be opening - only g-d knows when!
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: Dan on April 13, 2010, 09:52:34 PM
man the busted (sheraton) plaza deal...  I started saving Hilton points for the waldorf that is supposed to be opening - only g-d knows when!
http://www.jerusalemshots.com/Jerusalem_en141-12555.html

Are they still actually building the Waldorf?

Such a shame the Citadel left Hilton...
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: steve2 on April 13, 2010, 10:27:29 PM
http://www.jerusalemshots.com/Jerusalem_en141-12555.html

Are they still actually building the Waldorf?

Such a shame the Citadel left Hilton...

 was told by someone who had a view from their suite at The Plaza taht they saw the cranes and that the shell for the floors below street level was already poured and standing.

so maybe by 2012 or 2013 it will be open

it seems that most of the units will be apts and the Hotel portion not so large

 hopefully Hilton wont run into what *W did and end up leaving those ventures even thou all they did was the mgmt side
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: jack on April 13, 2010, 10:38:11 PM
on waldorf website it says
Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem (2011)
but no chance of that happening imho.
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 20, 2010, 01:36:09 PM
on waldorf website it says
Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem (2011)
but no chance of that happening imho.

Was just in yerushalayim. Saw a building being built and a sign on it that the waldrof astoria was coming soon....
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: steve2 on April 20, 2010, 01:41:01 PM
Was just in yerushalayim. Saw a building being built and a sign on it that the waldrof astoria was coming soon....

 if my memory is correct the original sign that was put up said Dec 2010 on it , yes that was a couple of yrs ago

 so now I guess to save some money it simply says "..coming soon.."

Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 20, 2010, 02:01:40 PM
if my memory is correct the original sign that was put up said Dec 2010 on it , yes that was a couple of yrs ago

 so now I guess to save some money it simply says "..coming soon.."



it may have had a date, dont remember....
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: Dan on April 20, 2010, 02:13:13 PM
it seems that most of the units will be apts and the Hotel portion not so large

 hopefully Hilton wont run into what *W did and end up leaving those ventures even thou all they did was the mgmt side
"The hotel will offer 220 spacious suites and guestrooms, with facilities
including a choice of three restaurants, a 5,381 square‐foot spa and fitness facility with pool, in addition to
extensive conference and meeting facilities and on‐site parking. Sited adjacent to the hotel, the luxurious
Residences at The Palace Jerusalem, The Waldorf Astoria Collection, comprising of 30 residences, will have
views of the Old City and will enjoy access to services from the hotel."
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: steve2 on April 20, 2010, 02:19:55 PM
"The hotel will offer 220 spacious suites and guestrooms, with facilities
including a choice of three restaurants, a 5,381 square‐foot spa and fitness facility with pool, in addition to
extensive conference and meeting facilities and on‐site parking. Sited adjacent to the hotel, the luxurious
Residences at The Palace Jerusalem, The Waldorf Astoria Collection, comprising of 30 residences, will have
views of the Old City and will enjoy access to services from the hotel."

 when was that written up? I remember seeing the original pics and the Hotel part was alot smaller then the building for the residences.I dont remember the #s but it sure wasnt 220 rooms . the Hotel part was suppose to be the old Palace Hotel the part that still has the old walls standing

 I do know that the Mamilla is having its problems selling its private apts , which is a separate building from the Hotel. I wonder if they changed the #s as the economy soured and the chance of selling them got worse
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: Dan on April 20, 2010, 02:30:32 PM
when was that written up? I remember seeing the original pics and the Hotel part was alot smaller then the building for the residences.I dont remember the #s but it sure wasnt 220 rooms . the Hotel part was suppose to be the old Palace Hotel the part that still has the old walls standing

 I do know that the Mamilla is having its problems selling its private apts , which is a separate building from the Hotel. I wonder if they changed the #s as the economy soured and the chance of selling them got worse
http://www.waldorfastoria.com/pdf/WAC%20Global%20Expansion%20-%20FINAL.PDF
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: steve2 on April 20, 2010, 02:40:03 PM
http://www.waldorfastoria.com/pdf/WAC%20Global%20Expansion%20-%20FINAL.PDF

 thanks for the link, and it seems its an old 1 at that

But the pic is way off according to the pic the Palace Hotel is directly across the street as the 1st building from the DC while in fact you need to cross 2 streets to reach it and there will be a building in between that 3 story building the pic shows and the DC. this pic shows 2 buildings while the ones I saw at the site were showing 3. The same 2 as the link has + a building between the Palace and the DC

 Unless they knock down all the buildings on KD St and pave over it no way will a person beable to walk out of the Palace and be standing on KD St and they only knocked down a few of the buildings that are KD street as I believe they dont own them all

 You will see what Im talking about when you are over there next month

 from an Avis map the other street is called Ben Shimon its a narrow 1 way street (now closed) that went up to KD St yet on the links pic it seems to be a broad 2 way street (I think it goes by a different name, but still goes from Rehov Agron on a  slant to KD St, and the last right turn if walking up on Agron towards the DC before hitting teh intersection of Agron and KD St.

 BTW I just tried clicking on the link to www.thepalacejerusalem.com thats on the link you provided and its N/A and says it expired on 4/8/10
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: ceejay on June 03, 2010, 11:50:57 PM
New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14) w/ all the Hilton brandings

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com (http://waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com)

Looks like it might be a reality after all
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: steve2 on June 04, 2010, 12:12:42 AM
New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14)

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com (http://waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com)

Looks like it might be a reality after all

 thanks for the link

 as for it opening up, thats something else, they are working on it but ever so slowly, personally I dont see it till  very late '11 or sometime in '12, unless they start working 24/7,OK 24/5 1/2
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2010, 07:03:08 PM
New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14) w/ all the Hilton brandings

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com (http://waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com)

Looks like it might be a reality after all
Looks like it's been pushed to 2012.
It was supposed to have been operational by 12/10

At least there will be something to burn points on near the old city when it finally opens.
191 rooms, 30 suites, 2 presidential suites, 30 residences.
Title: Re: Re: Israel hotels
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2011, 12:06:54 PM
New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14) w/ all the Hilton brandings

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com (http://waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com)

Looks like it might be a reality after all

Looks like it's been pushed to 2012.
It was supposed to have been operational by 12/10

At least there will be something to burn points on near the old city when it finally opens.
191 rooms, 30 suites, 2 presidential suites, 30 residences.

Now scheduled for a November 2012 opening according to www.waldorfastoria.com/future-openings

Every WA goes for 50K HHonors/night during low season except for WA Maui/Grand Wailea which goes for 70K.
During high season they go for 60K except for WA Maui/Grand Wailea and WA Maldives which goes for 80K.
If you are HH elite or a cardholders then you get a discount of 15% (for 4-night stays), 20% (5 nights), or 25% (6+ nights).

Or if Points & Money is available it is 30K+$100.
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
This seems like a strong sign that the Jerusalem Waldorf Astoria will actually open its doors one day...
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000713510&fid=1124

$30MM, that's $10MM more than Reichmann paid for the property in the first place!
Title: Re: Re: Israel Hotels Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on February 10, 2012, 08:05:35 AM
This seems like a strong sign that the Jerusalem Waldorf Astoria will actually open its doors one day...
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000713510&fid=1124

$30MM, that's $10MM more than Reichmann paid for the property in the first place!


true but it is a $150MM project...
Title: Re: Re: Israel Hotels Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2012, 10:36:02 AM

true but it is a $150MM project...
For sure, but that's a nice payday on a sale of just a fraction of the apartments and not even any of the hundreds of hotel rooms.
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 07:44:46 AM
Hilton points can be good for a Waldorf that is opening in Jerusalem at a great location
Title: Re: Re: Virgin Atlantic Miles
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 09:16:17 AM
Nice suggestion.

But not necessarily will 2 Hilton points at the Waldorf be worth as much as 1 VS mile in upper class. Gotta calculate what works best for each person.
How many ptts does waldorf  per night? I doubt the retail cost of their rooms in Jerusalem will cost so much
Title: Re: Re: Virgin Atlantic Miles
Post by: AsherO on March 14, 2012, 09:20:24 AM
How many ptts does waldorf  per night? I doubt the retail cost of their rooms in Jerusalem will cost so much

My guess is it'll be 40/50k
Title: Re: Re: Virgin Atlantic Miles
Post by: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 10:02:23 AM
Waldorf is supposed to open sometime in 2012
Title: Re: Re: Virgin Atlantic Miles
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 10:05:29 AM
Waldorf is supposed to open sometime in 2012
I don't one what is supposed to happen, but knowing Israel and seeing it, I wouldn't bet on anything before mid-2013
Title: Re: Re: Virgin Atlantic Miles
Post by: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 12:57:51 PM
It looked like it was getting finished this past September, I hope you are wrong.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2012, 01:37:18 PM
Confirmed. Pushed from November 2012 to March 2013: http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/about/future-openings/index.html
Title: Re: Re: Virgin Atlantic Miles
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
It looked like it was getting finished this past September, I hope you are wrong.
things look different to Israelis...
Confirmed. Pushed from November 2012 to March 2013: http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/about/future-openings/index.html
I place my bet on 2014, only Reichman is a pioneer of fast construction
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 02:46:45 PM
When do Hilton points expire.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2012, 02:52:43 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/19537
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: mordys on March 15, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
Confirmed. Pushed from November 2012 to March 2013: http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/about/future-openings/index.html

And confirmed by Gil Drory, the Purchasing Manager / Hotel Coordinator, via email:
"the hotel is currently in the construction phase and we hope to open in early 2013, probably late February – early March."
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 15, 2012, 11:29:27 AM
And confirmed by Gil Drory, the Purchasing Manager / Hotel Coordinator, via email:
"the hotel is currently in the construction phase and we hope to open in early 2013, probably late February – early March."
I dont reckon on it. Btw they're also building a Ritz in Hertzaliya Pituach
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on March 15, 2012, 01:15:55 PM
I dont reckon on it. Btw they're also building a Ritz in Hertzaliya Pituach
any info when that will be ready.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yellow on March 22, 2012, 01:38:20 AM
Is it worth it to try accruing HHonors points for this hotel? Or is it a waste of time due to the devaluation of the points (I am hearing rumors that certain properties are offering entry rooms at much higher redemption prices. Here is the FT link http://www.flyertalk.com/the-gate/blog/7488-massive-devaluation-of-hilton-hhonors-points-pertaining-to-premium-rewards.html)
At first I figured I'd try accumulating honors points because  I'd most probably be going to Israel sometime in 2013, but it's not feasable if it will be 100k points a night for a standard room...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on March 22, 2012, 07:59:59 AM
That's a big shame.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Walk On the Ocean on May 20, 2012, 10:11:35 PM
so are any DDFers gonna start hoarding HHpoints?
Dan, what say you?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on May 21, 2012, 12:37:57 PM
so are any DDFers gonna start hoarding HHpoints?
Dan, what say you?
I am hoping on using my points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JEWDA on May 21, 2012, 12:40:59 PM
I am hoping on using my points.
Enjoy the wait  ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on May 21, 2012, 02:28:39 PM
Enjoy the wait  ;)
No Rush, I got time.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2012, 03:44:30 PM
Dan, what say you?
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/21291
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: arch on September 08, 2012, 11:13:03 PM
Now its pushed till august 2013 :(
https://secure3.hilton.com/en_US/wa/reservation/book.htm?execution=e2s2
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2012, 02:09:05 AM
Bad link.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AsherO on September 09, 2012, 02:11:15 AM
Bad link.

This one works!

Scheduled to open in August 2013.
Opening Date: 08/31/2013 (http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/israel/waldorf-astoria-jerusalem-JRSWAWA/index.html)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on September 09, 2012, 08:19:20 AM
This one works!

Scheduled to open in August 2013.
Opening Date: 08/31/2013 (http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/israel/waldorf-astoria-jerusalem-JRSWAWA/index.html)
Looking forward to staying at this Hotel with points
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
wouldnt hold my breath that place been under constr. 4 yearrrrrrs i mean like 7 years i dnt think itl open 13 but goin back real soon il take apeak see if even any noise goin on :-\
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AsherO on September 09, 2012, 11:02:25 AM
Looking forward to staying at this Hotel with points

Will be a small fortune!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 09, 2012, 11:02:53 AM
Will be a small fortune!
but it may very worth stocking up for it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 11:04:55 AM
like i said i think you have plenty of time so if/wen they fnly open u should have more then enuf.. really i would say nt b4 2015 if lucky b4
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 09, 2012, 11:59:00 AM
like i said i think you have plenty of time so if/wen they fnly open u should have more then enuf.. really i would say nt b4 2015 if lucky b4
Have you seen it recently? It will definitely open in 2013
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 12:58:51 PM
honestly  :-\ no but every time last 4 years wen i was there as a boucher wasnt even any one workin.. hopefully il b wrong then we can al stay there ;D
Title: Re: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: L'Chaim on September 09, 2012, 03:33:11 PM
Have you seen it recently? It will definitely open in 2013
In Israel they first build the outside and then it can take another year (at least) to fishish the rest...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
yea i no but usally there still noise!!  and i no as my entire building in ey decided to do construction all at the same time :'( dnt wish that on ur worst enemy!! :-X i still have nightmares ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: elikay on September 09, 2012, 09:26:24 PM
yea i no but usally there still noise!!  and i no as my entire building in ey decided to do construction all at the same time :'( dnt wish that on ur worst enemy!! :-X i still have nightmares ;)
PLEASE could you use a browser with spell-check!
It is getting really annoying... especially this "i no" business..
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on September 10, 2012, 03:06:55 AM
especially this "i no" business..
would spell check even help for that?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: L'Chaim on September 10, 2012, 03:11:25 AM
A forum isn't a chat session.  Please use full words and regular english.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on September 10, 2012, 06:57:46 AM
PLEASE could you use a browser with spell-check!
It is getting really annoying... especially this "i no" business..
+1000
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: meshugener on September 13, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
How long in advance of the official opening date do they begin taking reservations for the hotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on November 15, 2012, 03:09:28 PM
Does anyone have any info of when the latest projected opening date will be?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on November 15, 2012, 03:09:44 PM
Does anyone have any info of when the latest projected opening date will be?
08/13
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on November 15, 2012, 03:12:12 PM
I say we take bets. See who comes closest to the actual opening date. I'm going to guess November 2013.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JEWDA on November 15, 2012, 03:15:13 PM
I say we take bets. See who comes closest to the actual opening date. I'm going to guess November 2013.
I'm gonna guess early 2014.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on November 15, 2012, 04:03:13 PM
How about betting whether they will find away to not accept points, Like not calling any rooms "standard" so that all the rooms will be 300K points!!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2012, 04:42:33 PM
I won't be surprised if they have a single room in the standard category.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on November 15, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
I won't be surprised if they have a single room in the standard category.
Is that standard among WA hotels, to only have a single room?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: daganster on November 15, 2012, 05:31:27 PM
How about betting whether they will find away to not accept points, Like not calling any rooms "standard" so that all the rooms will be 300K points!!!
Even if they do that can't we just there with the free nights from the Hilton reserve card?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AsherO on November 15, 2012, 05:37:50 PM
Even if they do that can't we just there with the free nights from the Hilton reserve card?

Still requires a standard room. Weekend nights only, BTW.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: daganster on November 15, 2012, 05:54:05 PM
Still requires a standard room. Weekend nights only, BTW.
Oh, that would suck if we cant redeem those free nights in Yerushalayim.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: RT on November 18, 2012, 07:20:48 PM
Can't wait for it to open, will be the only decent hotel in Jerusalem (aside from Mamilla but thats without using points) The former Sheraton aka Plaza is pretty gross for what you pay
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: dealvr on November 18, 2012, 08:06:58 PM
Can't wait for it to open, will be the only decent hotel in Jerusalem (aside from Mamilla but thats without using points) The former Sheraton aka Plaza is pretty gross for what you pay
I guess the King David isn't nice enough for you?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: RT on November 18, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
I guess the King David isn't nice enough for you?
I actually stayed there once and was pretty disappointed. The room was not cheap by any means, carpet was dirty and room was tiny! The suites are nice but a basic room is pretty sad for what you pay. IMHO
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
I'm not a Mamilla fan (though granted I stayed there right when they opened on Starpoints) but what about David Citadel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on November 19, 2012, 01:02:53 PM
I actually stayed there once and was pretty disappointed. The room was not cheap by any means, carpet was dirty and room was tiny! The suites are nice but a basic room is pretty sad for what you pay. IMHO

+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: gswannabe on November 19, 2012, 01:08:42 PM
i'm a fan of the david citadel
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 01:10:05 PM
i'm a fan of the david citadel
Such a shame Hilton let that slip through their hands.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: RT on November 19, 2012, 04:55:22 PM
I'm not a Mamilla fan (though granted I stayed there right when they opened on Starpoints) but what about David Citadel?
Me neither, Its very boutique and im more into the luxury..
Citadel needs some upkeep. Israeli's dont know how to maintain a hotel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2012, 03:46:12 AM
Great article on the history of the WA location
http://www.israeldailypicture.com/2012/11/the-return-of-palace-hotel-to-jerusalem.html

(Great blog)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 26, 2012, 06:09:23 AM
Israeli's dont know how to maintain a hotel.
Israeli don't need to upkeep hotels. They have sky high occupancy rates year round and theres no market for even more expensive rooms.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yare on November 26, 2012, 08:27:20 AM
Israeli don't need to upkeep hotels. They have sky high occupancy rates year round and theres no market for even more expensive rooms.
+1
most of the hotel business in j'lem goes to tour groups, primarily christian.  they're not looking for fancy hotels and expensive rooms.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: mochada on November 26, 2012, 09:53:22 AM
i'm a fan of the david citadel

+1000
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on January 14, 2013, 05:18:26 PM
Status update from someone in IL? Think this will actually open in August?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: satturn on January 15, 2013, 04:53:38 AM
Status update from someone in IL? Think this will actually open in August?
They are moving- i looked at it recently- some things are in the very advanced stages- but some of it looks like they are lagging- hard call.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MEIR613 on January 15, 2013, 06:15:58 AM
Status update from someone in IL? Think this will actually open in August?
I wouldn't hope on it.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on March 20, 2013, 02:44:30 PM
Was wondering if anyone figured out a way to book on points before the March 28th deadline!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
Was wondering if anyone figured out a way to book on points before the March 28th deadline!
If they're not even selling rooms for cash I don't see it would be possible.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MEIR613 on March 20, 2013, 02:52:31 PM
If they're not even selling rooms for cash I don't see it would be possible.
You REALLY didn't come up with anything :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on March 20, 2013, 02:56:50 PM
If they're not even selling rooms for cash I don't see it would be possible.

They actually are selling packages for Succos just not on their website. I saw a quote from them!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 02:58:39 PM
If they sell enough rooms not via HH channels they can probably get out of their Hilton franchise agreement for free.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on March 20, 2013, 03:01:37 PM
I am sure they will find a way to remain in the franchise but but wiggle out of accepting points!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
I am sure they will find a way to remain in the franchise but but wiggle out of accepting points!
They likely want out of the HH franchising agreement. Just like the Citadel a decade ago.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on March 20, 2013, 03:31:46 PM
They likely want out of the HH franchising agreement. Just like the Citadel a decade ago.
Why is that? Doesn't bring them enough marginal revenue or room occupancy, or b/c they can fill up by themselves?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 03:32:42 PM
they can fill up by themselves?
That. Without paying $$$$ to HH.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on March 20, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
That. Without paying $$$$ to HH.
So when they joined, it was due to the economic climate at the time?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
So when they joined, it was due to the economic climate at the time?
Could be for myriad of reasons.
Perhaps construction financing is cheaper or more readily available when you open under a flagged brand.

One thing is sure, hotels in Israel all seem to be deflagged at one point or another.  It's happened to 6 SPG properties. It's happened to Hyatt and Hilton in J'lem. It's happened to PC.
It happens more in Israel than anywhere else, that's for sure.  Probably they can fill them up without the flag, so why bother to pay.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Proisrael on March 20, 2013, 04:23:22 PM
I thought it was because they are just not as nice as American hotels and I think the Americans who come there really abuse their privileges.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Cashman on March 22, 2013, 02:44:19 PM
Pretty recent article. Looks like they will be open for the summer.

http://www.thejewishweek.com/special-sections/israel-travel/chain-reaction
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: dd321 on March 22, 2013, 05:18:04 PM
Pretty recent article. Looks like they will be open for the summer.

http://www.thejewishweek.com/special-sections/israel-travel/chain-reaction
dunno.. Just saw the construction site on Purim, didnt look anywhere near completion
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on March 24, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
Well a family member if mine is managing the project.. They are officially trying to be ready for summer but doesn't seam guaranteed.. Even if construction is over thy need to have like a practice month or so to see if things run smoothly...
(And I never heard any talk about dumping Hilton yet.. As far as I know they are very happy with their help . They are making them do everything on wa standards... You can take a tour of te place (know lot of ppl that have, not just me with family connections) rooms look very nice and up to date and moving along nicely I think..
Thy first wanted the Hilton name mainly (in my opinion) o make it a status symbol to have a apartment there... Like this they are selling those for a much higher value to help fund project..) 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on March 24, 2013, 04:22:24 PM
Well a family member if mine is managing the project.. They are officially trying to be ready for summer but doesn't seam guaranteed.. Even if construction is over thy need to have like a practice month or so to see if things run smoothly...
(And I never heard any talk about dumping Hilton yet.. As far as I know they are very happy with their help . They are making them do everything on wa standards... You can take a tour of te place (know lot of ppl that have, not just me with family connections) rooms look very nice and up to date and moving along nicely I think..
Thy first wanted the Hilton name mainly (in my opinion) o make it a status symbol to have a apartment there... Like this they are selling those for a much higher value to help fund project..)

Reichman family?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sal2011 on March 24, 2013, 04:23:25 PM
dunno.. Just saw the construction site on Purim, didnt look anywhere near completion
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on March 24, 2013, 04:25:11 PM
dunno.. Just saw the construction site on Purim, didnt look anywhere near completion
+1

-1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on March 24, 2013, 04:43:30 PM
Reichman family?
That's  the one (but I'm not a Reichman if that's what your asking)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on March 24, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
-1
I'm not a meiven on buildings though I've seen some finish up pretty quickly, and everytime I go in there I see huge advancement..
I dont need to advertise for them and like I said they not so sure themselves will be open by summer.. But def in the near future by now.. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on March 24, 2013, 04:48:18 PM
I'm not a meiven on buildings though I've seen some finish up pretty quickly, and everytime I go in there I see huge advancement..
I dont need to advertise for them and like I said they not so sure themselves will be open by summer.. But def in the near future by now..

To me it didn't look like too much work left. Of course, things can always be delayed, but from what I saw, summer is definitely possible.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on March 24, 2013, 04:52:46 PM
It's possible! (I know their best hopes is for finishing construction by June.)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on March 24, 2013, 04:54:16 PM
How much before a hotel usually opens can you start booking rooms ? (Via hh etc)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on April 16, 2013, 10:52:20 PM
If anyone is interested it looks like they submitted photos to trip advisor. I would assume they are renderings.....
http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotos-g293983-d2141296-w2-Waldorf_Astoria_Jerusalem-Jerusalem_Jerusalem_District.html#61049226
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on May 26, 2013, 08:36:01 AM
now not opening until nov http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/israel/waldorf-astoria-jerusalem-JRSWAWA/index.html
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on May 26, 2013, 08:54:06 AM
now not opening until nov http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/israel/waldorf-astoria-jerusalem-JRSWAWA/index.html
Thanks for update
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on May 26, 2013, 09:34:22 AM
Yep, they scared to open for succos...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Sammy12345 on May 26, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
I dont know but if anyone passes buy you can see there are not finished the outside and the inside is not even started yet... So Nov is a little bit difficult to believe... IMHO
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on May 26, 2013, 06:40:46 PM
It is just amazing how long it can take in Eretz Yisroel to finish a project.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on May 26, 2013, 07:18:38 PM
It is just amazing how long it can take in Eretz Yisroel to finish a project.

The best part is knowing that it could have been finished in way less than a year.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on May 27, 2013, 12:48:20 AM
I dont know but if anyone passes buy you can see there are not finished the outside and the inside is not even started yet... So Nov is a little bit difficult to believe... IMHO
What are you talking about?
I was inside and plenty of rooms and stuff are plenty finished!
They say tey will actually be done most if the construction and enough to open in time for succos but want a "practice" month and def don't want that over succas...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on May 27, 2013, 01:31:56 AM
I dont know but if anyone passes buy you can see there are not finished the outside and the inside is not even started yet... So Nov is a little bit difficult to believe... IMHO

Passed it by the other day, and unfortunately I would have to agree with you.

It still looks like they have a LOOONNGGG way to go and not going to be finished anytime SOON.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on May 27, 2013, 02:01:58 AM
All I can say us that you'll be saying a whole dif story after you take a grand tour of that place!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 27, 2013, 02:58:43 AM
I say we do a pool w/ the expected month/year opening date.
We'll all put in $5.
Anyone responsible interested in starting it?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on May 27, 2013, 03:18:27 AM
I say we do a pool w/ the expected month/year opening date.
We'll all put in $5.
Anyone responsible interested in starting it?
You really expecting after 2014?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Sammy12345 on May 27, 2013, 06:04:00 PM
What are you talking about?
I was inside and plenty of rooms and stuff are plenty finished!
They say tey will actually be done most if the construction and enough to open in time for succos but want a "practice" month and def don't want that over succas...
There called sample rooms they do this to show what its going to look like but its far from being finished.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on May 27, 2013, 06:27:24 PM
not what im talking about... i saw the sample rooms over a year ago!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on May 27, 2013, 06:54:08 PM
I'm not saying they can open Tom- but I think they can accomplish a lot in next four months ..
You can see the dif there one week to the next!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: mochada on May 27, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
A relative of mine was looking into buying a unit...but they told them they prob won't be down for another yr or 2 so he's checking out the complex by the YMCA.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on May 28, 2013, 02:13:05 AM
interesting...but it is a whole dif building then the hotel
Title: waldorf astoria jerusalem now opening nov 2013
Post by: mikedeals on June 02, 2013, 04:53:32 PM
it seems the opening date has been changed from august 2013 to nov 2013
Title: Re: waldorf astoria jerusalem now opening nov 2013
Post by: chucksterace on June 02, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
Already posted: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=14752
Title: Re: waldorf astoria jerusalem now opening nov 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 02, 2013, 04:56:21 PM
And why in this board?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on August 27, 2013, 02:22:03 PM
any update on when this opening.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Red on August 27, 2013, 02:24:28 PM
Still says November...
http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/israel/waldorf-astoria-jerusalem-JRSWAWA/index.html
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E on August 27, 2013, 02:34:13 PM
Dont remember If I shared this photo yet taken over a year ago in the model room.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/7r2pgs1m1v1op2k/2012-10-07%2013.24.42.jpg)

From the Roof of the residences facing The Citadel

(https://photos-4.dropbox.com/t/0/AADpqGCrQfYx1RFEaKWVL7pSymUKEQJgb00JxqlPEI55wQ/12/23131764/jpeg/1024x768/3/1377633600/0/2/2012-10-07%2013.00.05.jpg/RbOzY1t5YZc_auVwXBRy9Ju7ao2pEol71bUrxqOE-UA)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on August 27, 2013, 02:45:53 PM
Still says November...
http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/hotels/israel/waldorf-astoria-jerusalem-JRSWAWA/index.html
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: swiftwireless on September 11, 2013, 02:29:35 PM
This hotel will soon be joining the Hilton Worldwide Portfolio of Brands and is currently accepting reservations for May 1, 2014 and beyond
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 02:30:18 PM
This hotel will soon be joining the Hilton Worldwide Portfolio of Brands and is currently accepting reservations for May 1, 2014 and beyond
MAMZEIRIM!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on September 11, 2013, 02:31:00 PM
MAMZEIRIM!
Right after Pesach?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on September 11, 2013, 02:33:43 PM
This hotel will soon be joining the Hilton Worldwide Portfolio of Brands and is currently accepting reservations for May 1, 2014 and beyond

WOW. Thats a big time just.. But at least they finally updated it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
Right after Pesach?
1. That they have delayed this hotel for some 6 years now. I've never seen a more delayed hotel.
2. That it took them until now to push back from November and that it's pushed off that long.  And you know this one won't stick either :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on September 11, 2013, 02:35:13 PM
1. That they have delayed this hotel for some 6 years now. I've never seen a more delayed hotel.
2. That it took them until now to push back from November and that it's pushed off that long.  And you know this one won't stick either :P
It's like the carrot on the stick.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
The worst part is that you just know they're going to do the same thing that the Hilton Jerusalem did.  Ditched Hilton after a short period of time and became the Citadel :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on September 11, 2013, 02:39:09 PM
The worst part is that you just know they're going to do the same thing that the Hilton Jerusalem did.  Ditched Hilton after a short period of time and became the Citadel :P
+1 on all of your comments on this Hotel
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 03:04:30 PM
80k points per night
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 03:19:35 PM
80k points per night
Or 32K+$150, great deal for a $570 room!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on September 11, 2013, 03:23:39 PM
Or 32K+$150, great deal for a $570 room!
80k points per night
Is it likely the rates will stay like this, or do you think it will increase?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on September 11, 2013, 03:26:33 PM
2. That it took them until now to push back from November and that it's pushed off that long.  And you know this one won't stick either :P
So then book it, and if it's delayed again, then request compensation.
It's worked with Gary and the new Andaz in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 03:29:18 PM
So then book it, and if it's delayed again, then request compensation.
It's worked with Gary and the new Andaz in Hawaii.
Step ahead of you already ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
5 nights:
320,000HH or $3,363.
1.05cpp.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 03:31:21 PM
Or 32K+$150, great deal for a $570 room!
I didnt see that option it wasnt offered to me.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 03:35:40 PM
5 nights:
320,000HH or $3,363.
1.05cpp.
Or 160K VS, 2.1cpp
Or 160K MR, 160K UR, or 128K-130K SPG to VS=320HH
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 03:38:21 PM
Or 160K VS, 2.1cpp
Or 160K MR, 160K UR, or 128K-130K SPG to VS=320HH
MR is 1:2?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 03:39:19 PM
MR is 1:2?
Or 160K VS, 2.1cpp
Or 160K MR, 160K UR, or 128K-130K SPG to VS=320HH
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 03:42:21 PM
misunderstood my bad
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yellow on September 11, 2013, 03:45:03 PM
If I book now with points what's the cancellation policy?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on September 11, 2013, 03:46:20 PM
Step ahead of you already ;)
Booked a night. We'll make a DO.
No C&P options offered.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 03:46:29 PM
If I book now with points what's the cancellation policy?
until 4pm day of arrival
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yellow on September 11, 2013, 03:48:25 PM
until 4pm day of arrival
Awesome! And how about if I book with c&p?
Also do the charge the cc right away or upon check in?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 03:53:11 PM
Awesome!
Truth is that it's very bad.
#SquattersGalore
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 03:54:55 PM
Self parking:    $60.00,
Valet parking:    $100.00,
 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 03:55:59 PM
Self parking:    $60.00,
Valet parking:    $100.00,
 :o :o :o
noticed that also
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AsherO on September 11, 2013, 04:04:51 PM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/24dhg5k.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E on September 11, 2013, 04:05:16 PM
anyone getting any corporate codes to work yet ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: meshugener on September 11, 2013, 04:06:33 PM
Awesome! And how about if I book with c&p?
Also do the charge the cc right away or upon check in?
If its C&P they charge at checkout.
If its full cash, it depends what rate, non-refundable rates are charged immediately.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 04:08:28 PM
I am spending $$ on a Hilton card exclusively for this hotel - I hope they won't disappoint.
So are you disappointed :D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AsherO on September 11, 2013, 04:09:13 PM
If its C&P they charge at checkout.
If its full cash, it depends what rate, non-refundable rates are charged immediately.

Online checkout, or when you check out from the hotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: meshugener on September 11, 2013, 04:16:33 PM
When you check out from hotel.
I've never done online checkout since it doesn't give me the option of asking for compensation.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on September 11, 2013, 04:18:53 PM
where are you guys finding C&P options? Depends on the date?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2013, 04:33:42 PM
where are you guys finding C&P options? Depends on the date?
Try May 1st.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 04:35:09 PM
Try May 1st.
interesting when i searched the 1st-4th it didnt show
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MLM on September 13, 2013, 09:42:42 AM
i think they blocked everything out already!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on September 13, 2013, 09:43:32 AM
i think they blocked everything out already!
why do u say that
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mikeoracle on September 13, 2013, 10:25:32 AM
Im getting the message "ONLINE BOOKING UNAVAILABLE"
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on September 21, 2013, 03:19:40 PM
I spoke to the manager of the project over yom tov, he said he is supposed to give over the hotel to wa by January the latest!
He thinks they jut learned from experience nit to let ppl book online yet, till they have it actually up and running...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Racer7400 on September 21, 2013, 10:32:31 PM

I spoke to the manager of the project over yom tov, he said he is supposed to give over the hotel to wa by January the latest!
He thinks they jut learned from experience nit to let ppl book online yet, till they have it actually up and running...
im going to Israel January 14th is there any chance that it will be up and running by then?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on September 22, 2013, 06:07:22 AM
im going to Israel January 14th is there any chance that it will be up and running by then?
According to what he told me, sounds like  there is a big possibility...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 22, 2013, 10:00:51 AM
Don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Racer7400 on September 22, 2013, 10:42:02 AM

Don't hold your breath.
i wasn't really. But I can always hope :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: daganster on September 22, 2013, 09:21:18 PM
The bright side is that they are actually releasing rooms for points, and not considering all the rooms suites as some anticipated.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on September 22, 2013, 09:56:56 PM
Or 160K VS, 2.1cpp
Or 160K MR, 160K UR, or 128K-130K SPG to VS=320HH

Just wondering- what's VS?

Will my wife's Victoria Secret card help? ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on September 22, 2013, 10:29:55 PM
Just wondering- what's VS?

Will my wife's Victoria Secret card help? ;D
Virgin Atlantic
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on September 22, 2013, 10:59:39 PM
Virgin Atlantic

Thanks. Now I gotta find that other thread to add it there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on September 22, 2013, 11:04:25 PM
Thanks. Now I gotta find that other thread to add it there.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on September 22, 2013, 11:07:56 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0

Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jack on October 08, 2013, 12:08:46 AM
Anyone try redeeming free night certificates for this?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: wonderlust on October 14, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
i have a 2 free night awards 1 expires 11/30 & 1/20 i am going on cHanukkah and wish i could use them:(.. any one like 2 buy?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: meshugener on October 14, 2013, 10:16:53 PM
Reserve a room for a stay prior to 11/30 and then call in to change dates.

Not sure it'll work, but definitely worth a try.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Racer7400 on October 14, 2013, 11:14:20 PM
Reserve a room for a stay prior to 11/30 and then call in to change dates.

Not sure it'll work, but definitely worth a try.
is it open already?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on October 15, 2013, 12:37:15 AM
No.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on November 10, 2013, 08:41:50 PM
I'm trying to book an award here from 6/1-6/7 for Shavuot. It offers me a King Standard at 66,400 points per night when I search for 2 adults. When I add a child (for my 6 year old daughter), it only offers me a twin deluxe room at approx. 180,000 points per night. We're not the types who stay inside or need a ton of room for sleeping arrangements, so I know the King Standard would work out fine, but I don't want to cause an issue with the booking if I try to add her onto the reservation afterwards. This wasn't an issue at the TA Hilton, and the King standard room there is smaller.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: meshugener on November 10, 2013, 08:44:36 PM
Do you need a regular bed for her or a crib is fine?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on November 10, 2013, 08:47:07 PM
Do you need a regular bed for her or a crib is fine?
Of course as most 6 year olds sleep in a crib.
Personally I would just reserve for 2 adults.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: meshugener on November 10, 2013, 08:50:10 PM
Than what's the problem?
Book for two adults and call the property directly to request a crib.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on November 10, 2013, 08:51:06 PM
Do you need a regular bed for her or a crib is fine?

She's easy, a rollaway, in bed with us, or even a sleeping bag on the floor and some pillows would be fine.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on November 10, 2013, 08:53:05 PM
Than what's the problem?
Book for two adults and call the property directly to request a crib.

Only problem would be if the hotel had an issue with me booking a room for 2 and showing up with 3. I'm kind of glad you don't think it's a big deal though. I'll let the board know my experience for reference.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on November 11, 2013, 05:05:56 AM
does anybody know of sample dates with c+p availability?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on November 11, 2013, 10:25:46 AM
I checked for C+P but couldn't find anything, sorry. The TA Hilton had tons of availability at $125 + 28,000 points.
Title: WALDORF JERUSALEM CAN BE BOOKED NOW!!
Post by: Wheelerdealer on December 03, 2013, 03:36:42 AM
You can book the Waldorf Jerusalem starting May 1st!!!
Although there are no rooms available till Aug 1st
The cheapest I saw a room for was 80k points a night, and the most expensive I saw was 1.4 million points for the Palace suite lol...Insane
They do have some crazy rooms there
https://secure3.hilton.com/en_US/wa/reservation/book.htm?execution=e1s42 (https://secure3.hilton.com/en_US/wa/reservation/book.htm?execution=e1s42)
Title: Re: WALDORF JERUSALEM CAN BE BOOKED NOW!!
Post by: Twin on December 03, 2013, 04:10:02 AM
You can book the Waldorf Jerusalem starting May 1st!!!
Although there are no rooms available till Aug 1st
The cheapest I saw a room for was 80k points a night, and the most expensive I saw was 1.4 million points for the Palace suite lol...Insane
They do have some crazy rooms there
https://secure3.hilton.com/en_US/wa/reservation/book.htm?execution=e1s42 (https://secure3.hilton.com/en_US/wa/reservation/book.htm?execution=e1s42)
What are the chances that construction is going to be done by then
Title: Re: WALDORF JERUSALEM CAN BE BOOKED NOW!!
Post by: hertzinstl on December 03, 2013, 04:14:36 AM
#DDS j'lem?
Title: Re: WALDORF JERUSALEM CAN BE BOOKED NOW!!
Post by: chucksterace on December 03, 2013, 04:42:19 AM
Please see here - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=14752.0
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2013, 01:21:36 PM
Seriously the most delayed hotel on earth:
"This hotel will soon be joining the Hilton Worldwide Portfolio of Brands and is currently accepting reservations for August 1, 2014 and beyond."


Wonder what they're going to do with my 05/01-05/16 points reservation now :D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on December 04, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
Seriously the most delayed hotel on earth:
"This hotel will soon be joining the Hilton Worldwide Portfolio of Brands and is currently accepting reservations for August 1, 2014 and beyond."


Wonder what they're going to do with my 05/01-05/16 points reservation now :D
mine also :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: satturn on December 04, 2013, 01:51:18 PM
Passed yesterday, still many rooms  that are not near finished. But they got a retail store on the ground floor open.... I guess selling overpriced ceramic pomegranates is more profitable then renting rooms
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimbo on December 04, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
Seriously the most delayed hotel on earth:
"This hotel will soon be joining the Hilton Worldwide Portfolio of Brands and is currently accepting reservations for August 1, 2014 and beyond."


Wonder what they're going to do with my 05/01-05/16 points reservation now :D
I made a cash reservation 5/01-5/03. Is cash reservation not as good for compensation?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
Why the heck does it take 8 years to build a hotel??
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 04, 2013, 02:00:46 PM
Why the heck does it take 8 years to build a hotel??
Israel::)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on December 04, 2013, 02:03:00 PM
Israel::)

Lol. One word says it all
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: satturn on December 04, 2013, 02:05:48 PM
They did go through some crazy things to preserve the facade of the building. Really cool how they did it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jkhein on December 04, 2013, 02:30:52 PM
Why the heck does it take 8 years to build a hotel??
they are doing a beautiful job, it looks reall nice
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on December 05, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
Wonder what they're going to do with my 05/01-05/16 points reservation now :D
80k a night out more? ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on December 10, 2013, 12:49:52 PM
They are having some sort of "grant opening" event tonight for the international tourist association (or st like that)...
Not sure what that means regarding to when actually opening...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on December 10, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
8 years is not that long when dealing with a building that has been landmarked. They had to keep the façade and run everything past the preservation loonies and the cronies that are in charge of the city.

The actual construction is going on for about 3 years IINM.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on December 10, 2013, 01:53:27 PM
I agree!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on December 10, 2013, 05:53:56 PM
Seriously the most delayed hotel on earth:
"This hotel will soon be joining the Hilton Worldwide Portfolio of Brands and is currently accepting reservations for August 1, 2014 and beyond."


Wonder what they're going to do with my 05/01-05/16 points reservation now :D

I do hope they're open by the week of Shavuot and able to accomodate my reservation, I'm going to look into alternatives but it's going to be $$$$ rather than points and $... Why the smiley face at the end of your post, lost cause?

I spoke to Hilton regarding the room for my wife and daughter, the official answer is that due to fire safety rules, the standard room cannot be booked for more than 2 people, as the room is not large enough to accomodate a rollaway bed (the Hilton in Tel Aviv doesn't share this problem). As the standard twin room wasn't available on the nights I was looking at, only premium rooms were able to be booked. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on December 10, 2013, 06:05:21 PM
Well they said that because of the event today, they were pressured into doing a lot of work this past month,
And I saw the architect giving a tour to the  city official in charge of giving them the opening permit,
Seems realistic they will start opening in 2-3 months (with a small tryout period before grand opening).
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: cooljoe613 on December 12, 2013, 12:12:22 PM
it wont open until August have a friend with reservations and they contacted them to let them know
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jack on December 12, 2013, 12:39:12 PM
it wont open until August have a friend with reservations and they contacted them to let them know

Did they offer any compensation or to be put up in another hotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on December 25, 2013, 09:22:03 AM
So I would like to stay there for a fri night and am wondering what they would do on shabbos. I asked them and they said if i stay till 6pm its half day charge after 6 is a full day.

I thought maybe since they are just opening in august they'd be more accommodating for frum clientele.

What do they do in other hotels?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on December 25, 2013, 09:32:17 AM
Did they offer any compensation or to be put up in another hotel?
Bump
They haven't contacted me about my March reservation yet.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 12:22:27 AM
Anyone contacted yet?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on February 06, 2014, 12:31:49 AM
Anyone contacted yet?
Still not. I thought about reaching out to them, but I'm holding off for now.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 12:32:47 AM
Still not.
Israelis...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on February 06, 2014, 10:33:46 AM
Israelis...
watch them charge your card for a no show...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmuelb on February 06, 2014, 10:42:40 AM
Dan, looking into making your next trip already, itching to get out?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 06, 2014, 07:25:47 PM
I did just hear that they are opening before Pesach,
Didn't ask for an exact date...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on February 06, 2014, 07:33:23 PM
I did just hear that they are opening before Pesach,
Didn't ask for an exact date...

I heard one week before Pesach.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 07, 2014, 02:46:34 AM
But the spa (two floors!) won't be open yet :(
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jack on February 07, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
Is it book able online? - website still says August.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: satturn on February 09, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
was there today, they unpacked alot of the furniture in the lobby.....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on February 09, 2014, 10:19:27 AM

was there today, they unpacked alot of the furniture in the lobby.....

Inside or just outside?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jkhein on February 09, 2014, 11:50:45 AM
Is this hotel entirely owned by the Reichmans?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on February 09, 2014, 12:18:37 PM
There are MANY large investors in the property and Reichman is not even half of it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on February 09, 2014, 12:30:27 PM
There are MANY large investors in the property and Reichman is not even half of it.
facts?guesses?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jkhein on February 09, 2014, 12:57:49 PM
There are MANY large investors in the property and Reichman is not even half of it.
I was there recently, there were quite a few Reichman women on site, and one of the guys with them, told me they own it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: satturn on February 10, 2014, 02:13:05 AM
Inside or just outside?
as seen from outside
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 10, 2014, 03:24:26 AM
I was there recently, there were quite a few Reichman women on site, and one of the guys with them, told me they own it.
There are other investors,
But the guy who came up with the whole project, and running the entire project (with his wife)  is a Reichman ...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmuelb on February 10, 2014, 09:54:13 AM
There are other investors,
But the guy who came up with the whole project, and running the entire project (with his wife)  is a Reichman ...

Cool! May they have much Siyatta diShmaya and Hatzlacha!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rots5 on February 10, 2014, 09:56:48 AM
Cool! May they have much Siyatta diShmaya and Hatzlacha!
or just rich... :D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2014, 01:54:11 AM
Bump
They haven't contacted me about my March reservation yet.
Any update?

Now showing June 1 on their site.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rots5 on March 07, 2014, 05:11:22 AM
Any update?

Now showing June 1 on their site.
seems to be moving along. the lobby seems somewhat getting done
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on March 07, 2014, 09:33:45 AM
Anyone get compensation for cancelled stays?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2014, 10:25:13 AM
+1. Where are the March folk?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on March 08, 2014, 01:27:49 PM
+1. Where are the March folk?
Just realized that my stay in May, not March.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on March 08, 2014, 04:08:24 PM
its funny to look back and see everyone hocking how many points it'll be, no one dreamed of the hilton reserve card.
so far  he's the closest:
I place my bet on 2014, only Reichman is a pioneer of fast construction
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: satturn on March 23, 2014, 06:21:52 AM
i know someone who just got a job playing piano in the lobby, he is really awesome. Good choice by them.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: mochada on March 27, 2014, 10:48:12 AM
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4504069,00.html
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on March 27, 2014, 03:21:19 PM
http://www.vosizneias.com/159808/2014/03/27/israel-after-seven-years-of-construction-reichman-family-owned-waldorf-astoria-opens-in-jerusalem/
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on March 27, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
it appears they are selling rooms from june 1st
Title: Re: Re: mamilla hotel joining starwoods?
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 06:40:59 PM
I am spending $$ on a Hilton card exclusively for this hotel - I hope they won't disappoint.

it is
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on March 27, 2014, 06:48:13 PM
How can I know if a room is available with free weekend night certificate?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on March 27, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
80,000 Hilton Points a night?  >:(
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 06:55:54 PM
80,000 Hilton Points a night?  >:(

pay cash and get points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on March 27, 2014, 07:00:27 PM
they told me that if you stay on shabbos a late checkout till 6 pm is 50% after 6pm is full charge. does it make sense for a frum owned hotel to do that? are people checking in on shabbos that they need to accommodate?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on March 27, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
they told me that if you stay on shabbos a late checkout till 6 pm is 50% after 6pm is full charge. does it make sense for a frum owned hotel to do that? are people checking in on shabbos that they need to accommodate?

I'm sure there are people checking in on Shabbos.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on March 27, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
I know there used to be such a thing.. That the amex surpass hilton card gives 6 x the points at drug stores.. I dont see that to be the case anymore. I see the citi hilton card gives 3 times the points at drug stores so technically after $3.95 fees ($209) after 53 vanilla cards you have 1 free night
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jack on March 27, 2014, 07:59:43 PM
The website says accepting reservations May 15 now but showing no availability till june 1.  Anyone have any luck calling?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 08:04:28 PM
they told me that if you stay on shabbos a late checkout till 6 pm is 50% after 6pm is full charge. does it make sense for a frum owned hotel to do that? are people checking in on shabbos that they need to accommodate?

6pm is motzei shabbos, till when u want to stay ? amshinov time ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on March 27, 2014, 08:07:29 PM
pay cash and get points.
I hope you are joking!

it is
It is disappointing?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 08:09:06 PM
I hope you are joking!
It is disappointing?

i'm not ,if the price of points is same as paying cash, whats the reason of booking with points.
it is disappointing , but i was not surprise since Hilton TLV is 70k for a night which you can book cash for 280
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on March 27, 2014, 08:10:27 PM
6pm is motzei shabbos, till when u want to stay ? amshinov time ?

6pm in summer when i was asking about
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 08:11:35 PM
6pm in summer when i was asking about

oh
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 08:49:13 PM
If anyone has access to book for pesach please pm me
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 10:02:39 PM
If anyone has access to book for pesach please pm me

Maybe, email on is way.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on March 27, 2014, 11:08:29 PM
i'm not ,if the price of points is same as paying cash, whats the reason of booking with points.
it is disappointing , but i was not surprise since Hilton TLV is 70k for a night which you can book cash for 280
80k Hilton points are worth at best imo 400$ while the average price for a night is between $600~750 so points are useful!
The hotel itself is disappointing? Why?
From what I have heard it's the most luxurious hotel in Jerusalem /Israel
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 11:16:44 PM

The hotel itself is disappointing? Why?
From what I have heard it's the most luxurious hotel in Jerusalem /Israel

He said it's disappointing not to be able to use points effectively.

So would be a brand new Holiday Inn if they built one in Jlem. It's a bit overhyped.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on March 27, 2014, 11:47:21 PM
He said it's disappointing not to be able to use points effectively.

So would be a brand new Holiday Inn if they built one in Jlem. It's a bit overhyped.
Agree! Jerusalem has the most over priced low tier hotels
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Bostener on March 28, 2014, 02:08:18 AM
Wow! A hotel before it opened and it already got 270 posts.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on March 28, 2014, 05:41:19 AM
a lot of people been waiting for something that bookable with points for long time.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on March 28, 2014, 07:47:37 AM
My guess is that this hotel leaves Hilton by 2016 the latest
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: YudiG on March 28, 2014, 08:31:34 AM
My guess is that this hotel leaves Hilton by 2016 the latest

why?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 28, 2014, 08:32:37 AM
why?
Same reason every other hotel deflags in Israel.

What a shame Pritzker punted on making it a corporate owned Park Hyatt.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: YudiG on March 28, 2014, 08:34:53 AM
Same reason every other hotel deflags in Israel.

What a shame Pritzker punted on making it a corporate owned Park Hyatt.

just speculation here, but perhaps having a foreign owner, this time will be different?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on March 28, 2014, 08:36:20 AM
just speculation here, but perhaps having a foreign owner, this time will be different?

Na, Israeli hotels have little to gain by being part of a foreign chain
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on March 28, 2014, 08:39:49 AM
Anyone want to make a bet? I'm sure Dan and PG will be willing to take the same
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: YudiG on March 28, 2014, 08:42:23 AM
Na, Israeli hotels have little to gain by being part of a foreign chain

kind of makes sense
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on March 28, 2014, 09:32:30 AM
West Jerusalem!!! Where's that?!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 28, 2014, 09:35:48 AM
Anyone want to make a bet? I'm sure Dan and PG will be willing to take the same

I'll bet against it. I think they need the WA flag to compete with the KD.

Perhaps if they have good sales people and convert the diplomats faster but it's hard to believe.

The Citadel is also on the market for sale/renovation and can have a comeback.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on March 28, 2014, 09:53:36 AM
I'll bet against it. I think they need the WA flag to compete with the KD.

Perhaps if they have good sales people and convert the diplomats faster but it's hard to believe.

The Citadel is also on the market for sale/renovation and can have a comeback.
I'd take a 5 year bet for sure.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 28, 2014, 09:56:50 AM
Bear in mind that it's the same Hilton people, and they learnt their lesson from Alrov. I'm sure they have a very strong contract for at least 5 years, probably 10.

Another thing is that Israel never had luxury brands before. Sure 'Hilton' and 'Sheraton' sound good because they're foreign, but a luxury brand is a completely different story and bring much more value.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E-MAN on March 28, 2014, 10:18:43 AM
Has it been determined yet if free weekend nights can be used?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on March 28, 2014, 10:30:01 AM
Has it been determined yet if free weekend nights can be used?
whats to determine.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E-MAN on March 28, 2014, 10:33:21 AM
whats to determine.
Is that a yes?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on March 28, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Is that a yes?
thats a DUH.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on March 28, 2014, 10:38:04 AM
So now that the Waldorfs up, when is the DDS Jerusalem.. And lets not make is when I'm out of town.  :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on March 28, 2014, 10:43:12 AM
A DDS Jerusalem in the grand ballroom of the WA?  ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on March 28, 2014, 10:45:38 AM
i don't think thy will be leaving so quick, thy ask for full price and there is people to pay.
and thy don't let the american abuse to take advantage getting rooms of $600 for 7000 points.
 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on March 30, 2014, 11:04:31 AM
i don't think thy will be leaving so quick, thy ask for full price and there is people to pay.
and thy don't let the american abuse to take advantage getting rooms of $600 for 70000 points.
 
FTFY
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ORD747 on March 30, 2014, 03:53:57 PM
Looks like it will go for 80,000 points per night with revenue rates starting at about $500. Free in room wifi though!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on April 02, 2014, 04:24:54 AM
Some pix of the hotel.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/plush-luxe-at-jerusalems-refurbished-waldorf/
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 09, 2014, 03:12:37 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/09/u7ase3u9.jpg)construction at the Waldorf security guard said Thursday is opening day
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chuchem on April 09, 2014, 03:58:25 AM
Whats the story with the hechsher in this hotel? Rabanut or Mehadrin?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on April 09, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
Whats the story with the hechsher in this hotel? Rabanut or Mehadrin?
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on April 11, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
It's run by R' Borenstein- the head of rabanut mehadrin meat.
Officially will only have products from rabanut mehadrin or better (bedatz etc.) but would have to ask mashgiach for more details.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on April 20, 2014, 11:50:37 AM
Classy, the hotel is open.
Meals cosy 450 nis each
Got upgraded to Junior Suite with Hilton Daimond

The stuff here a bit confused and thy not sure with rules etc.

Detailed report after yom Tov
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on April 25, 2014, 09:00:33 PM
Classy, the hotel is open.
Meals cosy 450 nis each
Got upgraded to Junior Suite with Hilton Daimond

The stuff here a bit confused and thy not sure with rules etc.

Detailed report after yom Tov

Nice! I'll be staying there the first week of June, would love to hear your trip report. Hope you enjoyed it, no "L'shana Haba" for you!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 26, 2014, 10:43:42 AM
It's Rabbanut
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ashers on April 26, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
Apparently they are doing "Haratza" now, which basically means that they are trying everything out
If you volunteer to be a guinea pig for the food there are excellent prices in the restaurant right now

Please note: I'm not vouching for the Kashrus there
#IKnowNothingABoutIt
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 04:37:26 AM
Spoke with someone involved with kashrus in Israel there working on a good hechser like rubin
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 07:02:27 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/vy7uqane.jpg)hotel lobby
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 07:03:27 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/9asyta3a.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on April 27, 2014, 07:03:41 AM

Apparently they are doing "Haratza" now, which basically means that they are trying everything out
If you volunteer to be a guinea pig for the food there are excellent prices in the restaurant right now

Please note: I'm not vouching for the Kashrus there
#IKnowNothingABoutIt

Just walk in? Or only a specific time?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 07:04:19 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/asamypah.jpg)milk restaurant bar
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 07:04:51 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/byzepypu.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 07:17:48 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/be3y5upa.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 07:18:18 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/ybuzanub.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 07:21:34 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/zu7uzu7a.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on April 27, 2014, 07:35:26 AM
What's the hechsher
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on April 27, 2014, 07:37:59 AM
What's the hechsher

Look above.

It's Rabbanut

Spoke with someone involved with kashrus in Israel there working on a good hechser like rubin
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on April 27, 2014, 07:41:11 AM
Look above.
ya just saw it tnx.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on April 27, 2014, 09:41:04 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/ejadybe9.jpg)seforim shank
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on April 27, 2014, 11:38:51 AM
We also have a picture of you  ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 27, 2014, 11:39:46 AM
We also have a picture of you  ;)
Did you not realize yet that's what he looks like?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on April 27, 2014, 11:41:32 AM
Nope
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BISPRO on April 30, 2014, 01:19:14 PM
all the meat in the place is Rubin/Kehilot/Badatz
there is a mashgiach there the whole shabbos/yom tov
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jack on May 02, 2014, 01:12:50 PM
Anyone been here with kids?  Do they give you a hard time having kids in room?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on May 02, 2014, 06:06:14 PM
Anyone been here with kids?  Do they give you a hard time having kids in room?

From the WA Jerusalem website:

Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Family policy
Children under 18 stay free when sharing a room with parents. 2nd room charged at 50% of 1st room. Family Plan is not available Jun 1- Jul 6 2014, Oct 7-18 2014, Dec 19 2014-Jan 3 2015, Apr 2-11 2015.

We'll see about how strictly they enforce...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jack on May 02, 2014, 06:22:01 PM
From the WA Jerusalem website:

Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Family policy
Children under 18 stay free when sharing a room with parents. 2nd room charged at 50% of 1st room. Family Plan is not available Jun 1- Jul 6 2014, Oct 7-18 2014, Dec 19 2014-Jan 3 2015, Apr 2-11 2015.

We'll see about how strictly they enforce...

Thanks.
Title: Waldorf Jerusalem need help
Post by: Palm5 on May 05, 2014, 10:58:19 AM
Want to stay there May 13 to 16.(3nights)

I have a large amount of amex points, transfer?

I'm an aaa member, any good?

I have amex plat card, any good?

Pay cash?

Please help it's getting close. What's the cheapest way to get a room there using the above?
Title: Re: Waldorf Jerusalem need help
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2014, 11:30:43 AM
3 nights=240K HH.
160K AMEX MR=240K HH.
Paid rate=$1,876.20, a value per point of 1.17 cents

So you'll be better off selling the points to a broker and paying. Or finding someone to transfer at a better ratio.
Title: Re: Waldorf Jerusalem need help
Post by: Yaalili on May 05, 2014, 11:32:37 AM
That's a lot of Amex points for three nights. What's the cash rate?
Title: Re: Waldorf Jerusalem need help
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2014, 11:33:06 AM
That's a lot of Amex points for three nights. What's the cash rate?
See ETA
Title: Re: Waldorf Jerusalem need help
Post by: Palm5 on May 05, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
Thanks dan.

Title: Re: Waldorf Jerusalem need help
Post by: Yaalili on May 05, 2014, 12:03:46 PM
See ETA

Wow. You could buy hilton points from a broker for cheaper too. But probably better to go with paid rate.
Title: Re: Waldorf Jerusalem need help
Post by: NewYorker11219 on May 06, 2014, 12:38:33 PM
Anybody stayed there already ? How is Shabbos there ? Meals ? Which הכשר ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on May 06, 2014, 12:55:35 PM

Anybody stayed there already ? How is Shabbos there ? Meals ? Which הכשר ?

Look upthread. Most of your questions are already answered.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on May 06, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
Booked Oct 6-19, 2 rooms at the Waldorf for Succos using a points many months ago. 2 nts (both rooms) were Reserve certificates. The rest cost about 1.25M points. Is it worth to cxl my reservation, sell the points and buy the reservation back with Global Tours?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on May 06, 2014, 08:03:07 PM
Probably not. How much are the nights then?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on May 06, 2014, 08:07:46 PM
It would cost me $12,800 to buy it with Global Tours. I have 1.36M HH points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on May 06, 2014, 08:08:31 PM
But I would also get back my 4 Hilton Reserve c=w/e certificates and 25K MR points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on May 06, 2014, 08:57:44 PM
But I would also get back my 4 Hilton Reserve c=w/e certificates and 25K MR points.
The MR points you transferred to Hilton? Those will just go back to Hilton.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on May 07, 2014, 05:18:54 AM
The MR points you transferred to Hilton? Those will just go back to Hilton.
He's refering to the ad posted on the main site that gives 25k MR points if you book the waldorf for succoss with them.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: DrDanny on May 07, 2014, 05:42:31 AM
1.25 million Hilton at a value of half a cent a point (I think that's a generous estimate) would be $6250 Global is charging $12,800 there's no way 4 reserve certs plus 25k MR is worth anywhere near $6000 (they are worth closer to $1000)
You did great!!!
If my math is correct..... I'm jet lagged and didn't sleep much last night but I think I got it right.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 07, 2014, 08:01:08 AM
1.25 million Hilton at a value of half a cent a point (I think that's a generous estimate) would be $6250 Global is charging $12,800 there's no way 4 reserve certs plus 25k MR is worth anywhere near $6000 (they are worth closer to $1000)
You did great!!!
If my math is correct..... I'm jet lagged and didn't sleep much last night but I think I got it right.
I agree.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: NewYorker11219 on May 07, 2014, 10:56:14 AM
Look upthread. Most of your questions are already answered.
Most of my questions were not answered yet, so if someone was there already please post what shabbos looks like there (Check in/out, food) and how the food and the seudas are
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 10:59:26 AM
Well regarding meal prices and hashgacha it is. Thats what u asked
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MLM on May 07, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
Anyone know if I can fit a third bed in a standard room
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on May 07, 2014, 07:46:26 PM
Anyone know if I can fit a third bed in a standard room
Are u bringing one from home? If not why not ask the hotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on May 07, 2014, 07:49:01 PM
Im curious what happend with all the guys who made reservations for before the hotel was oppend.
Did you have your res cancelled? Where you offerd compensation?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MLM on May 07, 2014, 09:24:43 PM
Are u bringing one from home? If not why not ask the hotel?

Can't get a straight answer
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on May 11, 2014, 03:40:35 PM
Has anyone here booked under someone else's account yet for this hotel? Have any issues? TIA
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 19, 2014, 07:33:53 PM
So any travel agent able to get better than 400/night?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 20, 2014, 01:26:31 AM
So any travel agent able to get better than 400/night?
Is the $400 rates you're seeing also through a TA only, or is that using points?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: carele1 on May 20, 2014, 09:17:43 AM
So any travel agent able to get better than 400/night?

Depends on the dates, i was able to got for about 350.00 bulk
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 20, 2014, 09:59:04 AM
Depends on the dates, i was able to got for about 350.00 bulk
Can you get that June 3 - June 7?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: carele1 on May 20, 2014, 07:47:56 PM
Can you get that June 3 - June 7?

Nops doesn't even come close to the $400 mark
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: gabis on May 20, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
What about Sept 1-4? Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 20, 2014, 09:01:35 PM
Nops doesn't even come close to the $400 mark
That's what points are for
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MLM on May 20, 2014, 11:30:14 PM
Just stayed 5 nights using HH points. It was absolutely amazing! (Other than Shoes didnt get shined well)

Best use of 320k HH points ever for me.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on May 20, 2014, 11:33:51 PM
Just stayed 5 nights using HH points. It was absolutely amazing! (Other than Shoes didnt get shined well)

Best use of 320k HH points ever for me.
What room type?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 21, 2014, 03:37:12 AM
Just stayed 5 nights using HH points. It was absolutely amazing! (Other than Shoes didnt get shined well)

Best use of 320k HH points ever for me.
You were Gold?
How was the breakfast?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on May 21, 2014, 04:04:29 AM
You were Gold?
How was the breakfast?
his programs say diamond
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: how on May 21, 2014, 05:47:43 AM
Can't get a straight answer
did u bring your own beds
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jr611 on May 21, 2014, 05:59:06 AM
You were Gold?
How was the breakfast?
breakfast was very nice. full buffett as you would expect and a menu you can order from with pancakes, shakshuka, omelette, french toast, etc.

pastries were very very good
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2014, 06:07:46 AM
Why isn't this place mehadrin :(
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 21, 2014, 06:09:47 AM
Why isn't this place mehadrin :(
Seems to be semi Mehadrin a la Citadel, probably don't want to attract the yeshivish crowd. Not gonna work!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jr611 on May 21, 2014, 06:10:46 AM
Why isn't this place mehadrin :(
to be honest, I am not an expert when it comes to all the different kashrut types, but I know this hotel is certified by the rabbinate of Jerusalem and I know it has a higher kashrut level than the King David
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jr611 on May 21, 2014, 06:11:27 AM
Seems to be semi Mehadrin a la Citadel, probably don't want to attract the yeshivish crowd. Not gonna work!
Well, I definitely saw a very yeshivish crowd so go figure.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 21, 2014, 06:21:14 AM
to be honest, I am not an expert when it comes to all the different kashrut types, but I know this hotel is certified by the rabbinate of Jerusalem and I know it has a higher kashrut level than the King David
Says who?

KD is certified by the same rabbinate of Jerusalem
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 21, 2014, 07:07:32 AM
Free weekend night certs should work at this hotel, or are they capacity controlled?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on May 21, 2014, 07:20:06 AM
Free weekend night certs should work at this hotel, or are they capacity controlled?
No; as long as there is a superior king available. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MLM on May 21, 2014, 07:42:58 AM
Why isn't this place mehadrin :(

It's better than Mehadrin. It has rabbanut but also has a another hashgacha that is by Rav Borenstien. The meat is all Rubin and the owner is very makpid on kashrus, he himself is very frum. I have friends that will eat there and won't eat Mehadrin meat.

We had a deluxe room it had room for a roll away. (Just barely) it was a big room but they put so much furniture in it. I got free breakfast as a Diamond. I also got upgraded from superior king to deluxe twin.

Parking is so convenient and free. You take elevator right to the room. Overall, better than any other hotel I have been to. I hope they keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on May 21, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
We had a deluxe room it had room for a roll away. (Just barely) it was a big room but they put so much furniture in it. I got free breakfast as a Diamond. I also got upgraded from superior king to deluxe twin.

Parking is so convenient and free. You take elevator right to the room. Overall, better than any other hotel I have been to. I hope they keep up the good work.
Do Gold members get free breakfast as well?
On my email confirmation is states that parking is $12 and valet parking is $24.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on May 21, 2014, 08:23:13 AM
It's better than Mehadrin. It has rabbanut but also has a another hashgacha that is by Rav Borenstien.
Are you sure rav borenstien gives his own hashgacha to the hotel? Or as part of the rabbanut?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chuchem on May 21, 2014, 08:23:21 AM
Can anyone post on food over shabbes. Is it much better then the plaza. I was very happy in the plaza shabbes the last few times, so wanna know if its worth the shlep down there from rehavia. Also how are the restaurants?
Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Bp on May 21, 2014, 09:27:07 AM
It's better than Mehadrin. It has rabbanut but also has a another hashgacha that is by Rav Borenstien. The meat is all Rubin and the owner is very makpid on kashrus, he himself is very frum. I have friends that will eat there and won't eat Mehadrin meat.

We had a deluxe room it had room for a roll away. (Just barely) it was a big room but they put so much furniture in it. I got free breakfast as a Diamond. I also got upgraded from superior king to deluxe twin.

Parking is so convenient and free. You take elevator right to the room. Overall, better than any other hotel I have been to. I hope they keep up the good work.

parking is not free at , but the place is unorganized yet so no one was there to ask you for any credentials.

I was just gold and got free breakfast, I think everyone gets free breakfast,

food is really sub par,

the hotel doesn't really have a lobby, the entrance has a boutique hotel feel do it,
the only place to hang out in the the courtyard,

the rooms itself call absolutely gorgeous,

I think as far as lobby/food/ambiance the David Citadel is way better than the WA.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 21, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
@BP
HH Gold always receive free breakfast.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: G11600 on May 21, 2014, 04:06:34 PM
@BP
HH Gold always receive free breakfast.
Not at Waldorf hotels. Most don't give - eg Rome, Waldorf Astoria. Free breakfast is only benefit of Gold (and Diamond) at Hilton, Conrad , Doubletree and HGI
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 21, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
Not at Waldorf hotels. Most don't give - eg Rome, Waldorf Astoria. Free breakfast is only benefit of Gold (and Diamond) at Hilton, Conrad , Doubletree and HGI
Interesting, I never heard that.
So Waldorf's are excluded from honoring Gold bennies?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: G11600 on May 21, 2014, 04:46:30 PM
Interesting, I never heard that.
So Waldorf's are excluded from honoring Gold bennies?
No, but benefits are different. From

http://hhonors3.hilton.com/en/explore/benefits/index.html

MY WAY DIAMOND MEMBERSHIP HOTEL BENEFITS:

Waldorf Astoria™ Hotels & Resorts

Space-available upgrade to a preferred room
Choice of two among the following: 1,000 HHonors Bonus Points per stay; one in-room movie5 per stay; or a spa, golf or restaurant discount, as designated by the property


Conrad® Hotels & Resorts, Hilton Hotels & Resorts, DoubleTree by Hilton™

Space-available upgrade to a preferred room
1,000 HHonors Bonus Points per stay
A complimentary continental breakfast for you and up to one additional guest registered to the same room each day of your stay
Executive Floor Lounge Access (available at select properties)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on May 22, 2014, 02:26:23 AM
Thanks
That takes away some of my desire to stay there if I couldn't get breakfast w/ Gold status.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on May 22, 2014, 09:34:34 AM
Thanks
That takes away some of my desire to stay there if I couldn't get breakfast w/ Gold status.
Just got off the phone with the in-hotel reservation, breakfast is included for ALL guest at no charge.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on May 22, 2014, 09:42:52 AM
Just got off the phone with the in-hotel reservation, breakfast is included for ALL guest at no charge.

Hmmm. Sounds very interesting. Maybe because they just opened?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 22, 2014, 09:49:14 AM
I think in Israel that's the standard
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on May 22, 2014, 09:50:25 AM
Hmmm. Sounds very interesting. Maybe because they just opened?
I called HHonors first and they said officially it's not included but each property has their other policy and I should call them directly. It makes sense cause most hotels in Jerusalem give breakfast for free to all guests.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: greatdeals on May 22, 2014, 09:56:43 AM
what do they serve for breakfast on shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: NewYorker11219 on May 22, 2014, 10:37:36 AM
Do they serve Seudas on Shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on May 22, 2014, 10:38:30 AM
I called HHonors first and they said officially it's not included but each property has their other policy and I should call them directly. It makes sense cause most hotels in Jerusalem give breakfast for free to all guests.
I think in Israel that's the standard

citadel,plaza and many others charge for breakfast
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chuchem on May 22, 2014, 10:59:44 AM
Plaza only if you book through non israeli website. All Israeli sites only offer bed and breakfast. Also on fattals site you cant pick bed only
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on May 23, 2014, 03:30:04 PM
Does this mean no more free breakfast?

(http://i.gyazo.com/754ac3fd2ee452bfbe99f3f576c91c1e.png)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: NewYorker11219 on May 25, 2014, 10:51:47 AM
I contacted he Hoel Last week, this is part of there response.....
 
Quote
Dear Mr. ......,
 
Thank you for contacting the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem.
My apologies for the delayed response.
 
Our Kashrut level is Rabbanut Yerushalayim for all of our meals.  If you would like more information about our Kashrut, you can contact Rabbi Elyashiv at 050-594-4672.
Breakfast is included in the room rate and is served in the Palace restaurant every morning.   
We have two restaurants; the Palace (French, meat) and King's Court (Italian, dairy).
Our Shabbat meals are served in the Palace Restaurant and are pre-paid: $110 per adult per meal and $70 per child per meal.
For Shabbat, there are keys to the rooms and check out is after Shabbat ends.
 
Please contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
 
Best Regards,
Naomi

So for does who claim hey have Rubin there you go
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on May 25, 2014, 12:54:19 PM
R' Elyashiv?? Didn't he pass away recently?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on May 25, 2014, 01:32:03 PM
R' Elyashiv?? Didn't he pass away recently?
Could be more than 1 with that name.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on May 25, 2014, 04:28:48 PM
Could be more than 1 with that name.
In this case I think its a mashgiach for the rabanut that I did some kashering for a few years back.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: edjack on May 25, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
Just to clear the air is he "legit"?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on May 25, 2014, 05:09:04 PM
R' Elyashiv?? Didn't he pass away recently?

Yeah, he only has about 6,000 descendants
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 25, 2014, 05:45:21 PM
R' Elyashiv?? Didn't he pass away recently?
It wouldn't be as surprising as him having a cellphone number... and answering calls about hotel kashrus
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: how on May 27, 2014, 10:18:39 AM
When I put in 2 adults online it shows no rooms available when I put 1 adult it has rooms? should I book by phone?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on May 28, 2014, 08:13:11 AM
I contacted he Hoel Last week, this is part of there response.....
 
So for does who claim hey have Rubin there you go
I just spoke to Naomi on the phone.

1) She said 80k HHonors gets the standard room.
2) It does NOT include breakfast (since my card is black... assuming that means I am not silver or gold..)
3) Kashrus is RABANUT YERUSHALAYIM.

Are there any other details booking with 80k HH?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MosheP on May 29, 2014, 04:03:19 PM
Anybody here get good rates at the Waldorf? I need a room for this weekend.....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Super Speed on May 30, 2014, 12:38:38 AM

Anybody here get good rates at the Waldorf? I need a room for this weekend.....
Certificate?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on June 02, 2014, 08:27:33 AM
I'm at the WA Jerusalem this week over shavuot, and the lunch is 495 shekel for adults, 370 shekel for my daughter, approx. $390 in total! I'm going to try to find a less expensive option at a hotel nearby. Any ideas appreciated.

We checked in last night, and love the hotel, breakfast, and service.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 02, 2014, 08:28:44 AM
I'm at the WA Jerusalem this week over shavuot, and the lunch is 495 shekel for adults, 370 shekel for my daughter, approx. $390 in total! I'm going to try to find a less expensive option at a hotel nearby. Any ideas appreciated.

We checked in last night, and love the hotel, breakfast, and service.

Did you try the option for just doing takeout? Might not be that glorious but it is a good option
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 02, 2014, 08:40:44 AM
I'm at the WA Jerusalem this week over shavuot, and the lunch is 495 shekel for adults, 370 shekel for my daughter, approx. $390 in total! I'm going to try to find a less expensive option at a hotel nearby. Any ideas appreciated.

We checked in last night, and love the hotel, breakfast, and service.
Eat at Sheyan. 5 min walk.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jr611 on June 02, 2014, 10:45:46 AM
Eat at Sheyan. 5 min walk.
prima kings? or get prepared food from somehwhere in the shuk
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chuchem on June 02, 2014, 11:22:08 AM
Sheyan and kiyara have yom tov meals, have to be pre ordered. Set menu only for chuznikim on second night and day
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on June 03, 2014, 11:10:04 AM
prima kings? or get prepared food from somehwhere in the shuk

Thank you to the board, we ended up getting great food from the shuk, and asked the hotel to empty the minibar to use it as a fridge (they also offered to store things for us).

The hotel left us three different cheese products in jars of oil when we got back to the room, along with a bottle of wine.

This is by far the best use of Hilton points I've experienced since getting into the points game about 3 years ago. The Tel Aviv Hilton cash+points reward last week is now my second favorite.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rots5 on June 03, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
Im going to keyara second night. they said ranges from 180-260 pp

red hefier said there not even open.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 04, 2014, 04:56:57 PM
Thank you to the board, we ended up getting great food from the shuk, and asked the hotel to empty the minibar to use it as a fridge (they also offered to store things for us).

The hotel left us three different cheese products in jars of oil when we got back to the room, along with a bottle of wine.

This is by far the best use of Hilton points I've experienced since getting into the points game about 3 years ago. The Tel Aviv Hilton cash+points reward last week is now my second favorite.
80k per night? What card membership do you have? Gold? Silver?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on June 08, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
I am in the waldorf as I type this. I am staying for one night and will let everyone know if the morning if the breakfast is free or not. I booked a free night cert and am Hilton Gold...

I will write a more detailed report when I leave.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 08, 2014, 03:31:50 PM
I am in the waldorf as I type this. I am staying for one night and will let everyone know if the morning if the breakfast is free or not. I booked a free night cert and am Hilton Gold...

I will write a more detailed report when I leave.
Thanks Sruly.

Can you also please write in detail what they have for breakfast? I know the kashruth is Rabanut Yerushalayim. I don't eat that though. So can you tell me what they have that is closed/packaged?

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jr611 on June 08, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
Thanks Sruly.

Can you also please write in detail what they have for breakfast? I know the kashruth is Rabanut Yerushalayim. I don't eat that though. So can you tell me what they have that is closed/packaged?

Thanks!!
literally nothing is closed/packaged.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on June 08, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
Thanks Sruly.

Can you also please write in detail what they have for breakfast? I know the kashruth is Rabanut Yerushalayim. I don't eat that though. So can you tell me what they have that is closed/packaged?

Thanks!!
If you're relying on packaged food at a hotel breakfast, you'll be stuck with the milk and puddings.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 08, 2014, 11:23:18 PM
If you're relying on packaged food at a hotel breakfast, you'll be stuck with the milk and puddings.
That stinks...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on June 09, 2014, 12:53:05 AM
That stinks...
So speak to the mashgiach and find out the hechsherim on the other foods.
Many non-cooked on location foods will be a higher level hechsher. You've just gotta find out what they are.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jkhein on June 09, 2014, 01:09:06 AM
what the best cc to get for this hotel and to get free night certs?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on June 09, 2014, 01:15:30 AM
what the best cc to get for this hotel and to get free night certs?
the citi card with 2 free weekend nights
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on June 09, 2014, 05:45:35 AM
Thanks Sruly.

Can you also please write in detail what they have for breakfast? I know the kashruth is Rabanut Yerushalayim. I don't eat that though. So can you tell me what they have that is closed/packaged?

Thanks!!


I am in the waldorf as I type this. I am staying for one night and will let everyone know if the morning if the breakfast is free or not. I booked a free night cert and am Hilton Gold...

I will write a more detailed report when I leave.

Okay here is the deal. I got the breakfast for free and it was incredible! There is nothing that is prepackaged. All the bread and yogurts were out and fresh. Besides for all of the usual buffet items, you are given a delicious menu to choose your choice of different style of eggs, fruit platters, pancakes, waffles, or French Toast. Wonderful service all around.

I definately think this was my best use of a free hotel night across any brand!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 09, 2014, 05:55:32 AM
thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 09, 2014, 06:10:58 AM
Wonderful service all around.
-100, but they do have a good attitude. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on June 09, 2014, 09:56:05 AM
You're arguing with his experience?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on June 09, 2014, 12:13:31 PM
-100, but they do have a good attitude. 
+100 ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 09, 2014, 12:33:59 PM
You're arguing with his experience?
+100
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on June 09, 2014, 12:46:12 PM
You're arguing with his experience?

Everyone has a different barometer for "Good Service"
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on June 09, 2014, 01:16:28 PM
Everyone has a different barometer for "Good Service"

Precisely.

That's the problem with TA and SkyTrax and Freddie and every other subjective rating.

A person who ONLY stays in, say, Amans saying the "service is not good" at WA in response to someone's comment that it is (from a person who normally stays in, say, Holiday Inns) is of no real value, yet articulating ones "credentials," the list of hotels one has experienced, along with one's rating and ranking of each, is not feasible for every "I liked the service here" comment, so we get what we get.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on June 09, 2014, 01:39:19 PM
Precisely.

That's the problem with TA and SkyTrax and Freddie and every other subjective rating.

A person who ONLY stays in, say, Amans saying the "service is not good" at WA in response to someone's comment that it is (from a person who normally stays in, say, Holiday Inns) is of no real value, yet articulating ones "credentials," the list of hotels one has experienced, along with one's rating and ranking of each, is not feasible for every "I liked the service here" comment, so we get what we get.

I found the service to be good. That could be because I was only there for one day. I have stayed in about 20 hotels this year alone and feel confident. I should have added though, because this hotel is located in Israel, they do have Israel's running the show. They are not as good at masking emotions with a smile, as they are in America and some of the other countries I have been in.

Addendum!!!! I asked my wife to see if she thought the service was good and I got a negative review. I might have been Starstruck when i wrote it cuz she reminded me that the food did take a long time to come out. Bottom Line Folks = the wife is always right!

Overall, while the service is not perfect they do go above and beyond to try to please the guests. Our concierge gave us a very nice tour of the hotel and told us about the history of the site. It was a nice touch.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on June 09, 2014, 01:53:07 PM
I found the service to be good. That could be because I was only there for one day. I have stayed in about 20 hotels this year alone and feel confident. I should have added though, because this hotel is located in Israel, they do have Israel's running the show. They are not as good at masking emotions with a smile, as they are in America and some of the other countries I have been in.

Addendum!!!! I asked my wife to see if she thought the service was good and I got a negative review. I might have been Starstruck when i wrote it cuz she reminded me that the food did take a long time to come out. Bottom Line Folks = the wife is always right!

Though I cannot say that it compares to when I went to the Hyatt Huntington Beach and was upgraded to the Presidential Suite! I felt like Dan! The pics below only show half of the place! Not to mention the wraparound porch overlooking the Pacific!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 09, 2014, 02:05:23 PM
Everyone has a different barometer for "Good Service"
The service is poor be every barometer, although it's probably worse at most Israeli hotels.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on June 09, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
The service is poor be every barometer, although it's probably worse at most Israeli hotels.

I'm curious to see how it measures up to the David Citadel & King David, which have very good service (by Israeli standards). The Mamila Hotel has awful service.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on June 09, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Precisely.

That's the problem with TA and SkyTrax and Freddie and every other subjective rating.

A person who ONLY stays in, say, Amans saying the "service is not good" at WA in response to someone's comment that it is (from a person who normally stays in, say, Holiday Inns) is of no real value, yet articulating ones "credentials," the list of hotels one has experienced, along with one's rating and ranking of each, is not feasible for every "I liked the service here" comment, so we get what we get.


I'm not comparing it to Aman/Four Seasons etc because it wouldn't be fair. Some people here prefer bad service so they can complain afterwards and get 1000 points
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 09, 2014, 02:52:39 PM
I'm curious to see how it measures up to the David Citadel & King David, which have very good service (by Israeli standards). The Mamila Hotel has awful service.
Incomparable, question is if they'll manage to improve.
I'm not comparing it to Aman/Four Seasons etc because it wouldn't be fair. Some people here prefer bad service so they can complain afterwards and get 1000 points
The WA isn't comparable to 4 seasons anywhere else in the world AFAIK. It's more like a Grand Hyatt.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2014, 02:53:18 PM
The Mamila Hotel has awful service.
Awful is being polite.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 09, 2014, 02:54:13 PM
Rumor has it the hotel was planing on printing a HHonors complimentary guide 'How To Behave In A Luxury Hotel'
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shnoz on June 09, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
Though I cannot say that it compares to when I went to the Hyatt Huntington Beach and was upgraded to the Presidential Suite! I felt like Dan! The pics below only show half of the place! Not to mention the wraparound porch overlooking the Pacific!
looks beautiful which room is this?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on June 09, 2014, 06:03:16 PM
Though I cannot say that it compares to when I went to the Hyatt Huntington Beach and was upgraded to the Presidential Suite! I felt like Dan! The pics below only show half of the place! Not to mention the wraparound porch overlooking the Pacific!
[/quote

YOU GOT THIS ROOM WITH POINTS?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on June 10, 2014, 06:03:32 AM
Though I cannot say that it compares to when I went to the Hyatt Huntington Beach and was upgraded to the Presidential Suite! I felt like Dan! The pics below only show half of the place! Not to mention the wraparound porch overlooking the Pacific!
[/quote

YOU GOT THIS ROOM WITH POINTS?
looks beautiful which room is this?

I got the room using cash and points! it was incredible. It had a dining room, kitchen, 2 bathrooms (none of these are shown in the pics!) It was called the Beach house suite, the nicest in the entire hotel. I have no idea how this happened, when i checked in they just said it was my lucky day (AKA Hashem!)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on June 10, 2014, 07:07:28 AM
I got the room using cash and points! it was incredible. It had a dining room, kitchen, 2 bathrooms (none of these are shown in the pics!) It was called the Beach house suite, the nicest in the entire hotel. I have no idea how this happened, when i checked in they just said it was my lucky day (AKA Hashem!)
Unbelievable!!!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: davidd75 on June 11, 2014, 09:12:59 AM
Can you book the two free nights you get from Citi Honors reserve card at Waldorf Jerusalem for friends or family or does the reservation have to have your name/certificate holder?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: davidd75 on June 11, 2014, 05:44:10 PM
anybody?

experience?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on June 11, 2014, 07:05:54 PM
anybody?

experience?
It can be booked with the free night awards
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: davidd75 on June 12, 2014, 09:24:27 AM
It can be booked with the free night awards

my question is if you get the two weekend certificates from citi hilton reserve card can you book for friends/family
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on June 12, 2014, 09:26:28 AM
It works at other HH properties.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: davidd75 on June 12, 2014, 01:02:03 PM
It works at other HH properties.

so any reason why Waldorf Jerusalem should be different in this regard
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on June 12, 2014, 03:42:27 PM
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on June 15, 2014, 08:03:17 AM
Rumor has it the hotel was planing on printing a HHonors complimentary guide 'How To Behave In A Luxury Hotel'
hehe, in hebrew?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ygold on June 19, 2014, 06:11:30 AM
Any conclusive info in regards to the hechsher?
R' Borenstein? R' Zaritzky? Kosher?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on June 19, 2014, 07:55:08 AM
Any conclusive info in regards to the hechsher?
R' Borenstein? R' Zaritzky? Kosher?
I think just regular rabanut.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on June 22, 2014, 01:43:29 AM
I think just regular rabanut.
While their official hechsher is Rabanut , speak to the mashgiach - as most (or all) of their food will usually be from better hechsherim.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 24, 2014, 12:39:01 PM
There now for dinner. Wow. Just wow.

Will be here again next week for Shabbat. Using the free night certificate.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on June 24, 2014, 01:15:08 PM
There now for dinner. Wow. Just wow.

Will be here again next week for Shabbat. Using the free night certificate.
You're paying for it?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 24, 2014, 01:20:42 PM

You're paying for it?

Tonight no. Shabbat using feee night certificate. But if i eat meals then yes, or might eat out.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on June 24, 2014, 01:23:48 PM
Tonight no. Shabbat using feee night certificate. But if i eat meals then yes, or might eat out.
How arent u paying tonight?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ygold on June 24, 2014, 01:24:21 PM
There now for dinner. Wow. Just wow.

Will be here again next week for Shabbat. Using the free night certificate.
What's the cost of dinner? and can anyone go, or is open just for guests?
TIA
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: momo on June 24, 2014, 01:25:59 PM
How arent u paying tonight?
My Guess, someone is paying for him!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 24, 2014, 01:59:58 PM

How arent u paying tonight?

Im not staying tonight. Came for dinner. You dont need to be a guest.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on June 24, 2014, 02:14:08 PM
Im not staying tonight. Came for dinner. You dont need to be a guest.
Well u need to pay for dinner
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 24, 2014, 02:26:18 PM

Well u need to pay for dinner

Well i aint. Someone else is. ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: davidd75 on June 24, 2014, 05:06:29 PM
Well i aint. Someone else is. ;)

is it true it is just rabbanut hechser? If so i am surprised such a place would basically exclude a lot of the orthodox clientel especially in israel
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ygold on June 24, 2014, 05:07:40 PM
Well i aint. Someone else is. ;)

How much does it normally cost?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 24, 2014, 05:16:32 PM
How much does it normally cost?

Does what cost room or dinner? Dinner is menu prices not fixed.


BTW, I asked about Shabbat dinner and lunch, they said it is 400 NIS. Shabbat dinner is served waiter service, Shabbat lunch is buffet.

And the place is amazing.. One of the nicest places I have been to. Looking forward to my stay there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 24, 2014, 05:17:18 PM
is it true it is just rabbanut hechser? If so i am surprised such a place would basically exclude a lot of the orthodox clientel especially in israel

I don't know, didnt check. But for a hotel restaurant, they were definitely crowded
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: NewYorker11219 on June 25, 2014, 10:39:05 AM
I don't know, didnt check. But for a hotel restaurant, they were definitely crowded
Look, after all its an Israeli restaurant........
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on June 26, 2014, 12:21:06 PM
would it be possible to get  a late checkout here as gold?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Sammy12345 on June 26, 2014, 08:52:07 PM
Has anyone have any experience using a cert for someone else did they cause issues?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on June 26, 2014, 11:47:05 PM
Has anyone have any experience using a cert for someone else did they cause issues?
No problem whatsoever
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 27, 2014, 12:33:32 AM
Has anyone have any experience using a cert for someone else did they cause issues?
The hotel is very much aware of 'second guests'. No need to worry.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MaaYanky on June 29, 2014, 10:05:20 AM
Tonight no. Shabbat using feee night certificate. But if i eat meals then yes, or might eat out.
How did you get ahold of a free night cert? Anyone know how many points I need per night and if there is any availability with points?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on June 29, 2014, 10:08:18 AM
How did you get ahold of a free night cert? Anyone know how many points I need per night and if there is any availability with points?

By opening the CC.. The base is 80k per night.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 01, 2014, 12:20:28 PM
Just some notes from email them regarding Friday Night Dinner and Saturday breakfast..

Friday night dinner (Adult: $110 USD (450nis w/ VAT), Child: $90 USD):
- Fish
- Traditional chicken soup with herbs Celestine
- Main course a choice of:
- Braised beef fillet in red wine with king forest mushrooms
- Glazed duck breast
- Lamb loin flavored with mustard
- Spatchcock Spring Chicken

All dishes include salads and sides as well: Spiced rice and Root vegetable flan
 
For Desert, Tropical dream: Creation of our pastry chef

- - - -
Shabbat Breakfast boasts a large buffet with fresh fruits, cereals, yoghurt, different types of preserved fish, as well as bread, pastries, and warm food.

Will post some reviews after my stay there this Shabbat.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: davidd75 on July 01, 2014, 12:44:39 PM
wow too hefty a price for me especially when we are used to getting things free

maybe one day we will get meals for free as well ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on July 01, 2014, 12:49:46 PM
Just some notes from email them regarding Friday Night Dinner and Saturday breakfast..

Friday night dinner (Adult: $110 USD (450nis w/ VAT), Child: $90 USD):
- Fish
- Traditional chicken soup with herbs Celestine
- Main course a choice of:
- Braised beef fillet in red wine with king forest mushrooms
- Glazed duck breast
- Lamb loin flavored with mustard
- Spatchcock Spring Chicken

All dishes include salads and sides as well: Spiced rice and Root vegetable flan
 
For Desert, Tropical dream: Creation of our pastry chef

- - - -
Shabbat Breakfast boasts a large buffet with fresh fruits, cereals, yoghurt, different types of preserved fish, as well as bread, pastries, and warm food.

Will post some reviews after my stay there this Shabbat.

Cant wait.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on July 01, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Looking forward to a full report chucksterace!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ygold on July 01, 2014, 08:50:32 PM
hmmmmm, so it seems that there are 2 different Hilton cards. Would a 2BM work with these?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2014, 09:08:38 PM
Not from Citi.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 04, 2014, 10:32:10 AM
Welcome amenity (at least for me) is a bottle of wine and fruit plate.

They even got Barkan to make bottles of wine just for them.

"Especially bottled for The Waldorf Astoria"
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/04/8a9urudy.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on July 04, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
Welcome amenity (at least for me) is a bottle of wine and fruit plate.

They even got Barkan to make bottles of wine just for them.

"Especially bottled for The Waldorf Astoria"
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/04/8a9urudy.jpg)
Same here this past Wednesday.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 07, 2014, 03:10:23 PM
Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem holds official grand opening gala

http://www.jpost.com/Business/Business-Features/This-will-be-an-extremely-successful-hotel-361825
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on July 09, 2014, 12:41:06 PM
So, to confirm, it's still true that a Gold member on an award stay gets breakfast for two for free?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sl on July 09, 2014, 12:54:44 PM
Anyone know if the Junior Suite has a separate living room or if it's just one large(r) room?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 09, 2014, 12:56:09 PM
Larger room
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 09, 2014, 01:00:14 PM
So, to confirm, it's still true that a Gold member on an award stay gets breakfast for two for free?

Yes.

Ill type of my review in the next couple days
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: bubble347 on July 09, 2014, 01:03:52 PM
Yes.

Ill type of my review in the next couple days
Are you still flying? Do you have wifi on board?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on July 09, 2014, 01:04:37 PM
Yes.

Ill type of my review in the next couple days

Danke schoen.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 09, 2014, 01:06:01 PM

Are you still flying? Do you have wifi on board?

Still flying. Using internet on board. Having a very successful flight. Already got three homeworks done.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: bubble347 on July 09, 2014, 01:12:21 PM
Still flying. Using internet on board. Having a very successful flight. Already got three homeworks done.
None of the United flights that I have flown have had internet. What aircraft?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sl on July 09, 2014, 01:15:02 PM
Larger room
Did you stay in one? They claimed on the phone that it had a separate living room.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 09, 2014, 01:17:14 PM

None of the United flights that I have flown have had internet. What aircraft?

747. FRA-ORD
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: bubble347 on July 09, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
747. FRA-ORD
I see, I have never flown in the 747 only 777 and 767.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 09, 2014, 01:47:46 PM

I see, I have never flown in the 747 only 777 and 767.

That my friend is a big issue.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: bubble347 on July 09, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
That my friend is a big issue.
Agreed :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on July 10, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
Had dinner at the Waldorf last night and spoke with the Mashgiach at length.

Currently all the meat and chicken being served is under Rubin, Shearis or Agudah hechsherim.

He said to check back as it may change

As per the meal, the steak was just like any other I've had in a good Israeli restaurant but the service was exceptional
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 10, 2014, 12:08:59 PM
Just some notes about my stay.

Stayed here for Shabbat. Got the hotel Friday around 2pm, check in was fast and efficient. They then had someone come up and lead me to the room and show me how to use the light controls etc.

About 10 minutes later room service came to bring me a plate of fruits and bottle of wine. About 30 min later they came again to bring another plate. ??? ???

Friday night dinner I at at the hotel, The fish was Salmon in a tomato sauce and the soup was a choice of chicken or split pea (i had the split pea). Both the fish and soup was served to you. Right when you sat down they bring you some assorted salads. For the main dish, they clear the table and bring you some more salads. For the meat they have a small table set up in the back with servers who dish out the main food, it was chicken, duck, beef, and lamb (the lamb was quite amazing). Desert was lemon meringue pie with sorbet and cut up fruit.

Breakfast was the usually israeli style breakfast. Different breads, rolls, bagels, and pretzel bags. They had assorted danishes but of higher levels. Their was the classic cereal section but with many different types of things to add it. There was hard boiled eggs and some time of kugel. And then the fished and other sections. All in all it was a classic breakfast but just the food was of higher quality and definitely worth waking up for.

Shacharis I davened in the hotel which was fast and convenient.

Shabbat Lunch was nothing too special and just picking up some food and eating in your room or the like would be better.

Checked was fast and convenient. Overall a great stay and would recommend it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on July 10, 2014, 12:58:28 PM
Just some notes about my stay.

Stayed here for Shabbat.

You paid for two nights or they let you stay till after Shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 10, 2014, 01:19:41 PM

You paid for two nights or they let you stay till after Shabbos?

Checkout is after shabbat. No need to even ask
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jr611 on July 10, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
Just some notes about my stay.

Stayed here for Shabbat. Got the hotel Friday around 2pm, check in was fast and efficient. They then had someone come up and lead me to the room and show me how to use the light controls etc.

About 10 minutes later room service came to bring me a plate of fruits and bottle of wine. About 30 min later they came again to bring another plate. ??? ???

Friday night dinner I at at the hotel, The fish was Salmon in a tomato sauce and the soup was a choice of chicken or split pea (i had the split pea). Both the fish and soup was served to you. Right when you sat down they bring you some assorted salads. For the main dish, they clear the table and bring you some more salads. For the meat they have a small table set up in the back with servers who dish out the main food, it was chicken, duck, beef, and lamb (the lamb was quite amazing). Desert was lemon meringue pie with sorbet and cut up fruit.

Breakfast was the usually israeli style breakfast. Different breads, rolls, bagels, and pretzel bags. They had assorted danishes but of higher levels. Their was the classic cereal section but with many different types of things to add it. There was hard boiled eggs and some time of kugel. And then the fished and other sections. All in all it was a classic breakfast but just the food was of higher quality and definitely worth waking up for.

Shacharis I davened in the hotel which was fast and convenient.

Shabbat Lunch was nothing too special and just picking up some food and eating in your room or the like would be better.

Checked was fast and convenient. Overall a great stay and would recommend it.

I respectfully disagree, I thought friday dinner was nothing special but lunch was excellent.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: bubble347 on July 10, 2014, 02:12:41 PM
I respectfully disagree, I thought friday dinner was nothing special but lunch was excellent.
על טעם וריח אין להתוכח
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 10, 2014, 02:15:21 PM
I respectfully disagree, I thought friday dinner was nothing special but lunch was excellent.

And that my friend is perfectly ok. If everyone was alike the World would be very boring..

I perfectly respect your opinion.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: bubble347 on July 10, 2014, 02:25:39 PM
And that my from is perfectly ok. If everyone was alike the world would be very boring..

I perfectly respect your opinion.
I'm not sure what you are using to type with today, but you gotta check your spell-check ;D (no offense)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on July 10, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
I'm not sure what you are using to type with today, but you gotta check your spell-check ;D (no offense)

Lol.. Fixing it now
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: alt123 on July 13, 2014, 01:47:20 AM
I respectfully disagree, I thought friday dinner was nothing special but lunch was excellent.
Care to elaborate? I'm planning a stay there in a few weeks and am very interested in first hand reviews of the meals.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: alt123 on August 05, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
Anyone have recent info on the kashrus? Especially where they get their meat from?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ygold on August 05, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Warning: One MAY NOT use the refrigerator in the room on Shabbos.
Every time you open the door, the light turns on. The only way to have the light not turn on, is to leave the door to fridge open and never close it. Even if that is done, there is another issue. There are electric sensors in the fridge which record every time something is removed or placed in the fridge.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: alt123 on August 05, 2014, 05:01:50 PM
Warning: One MAY NOT use the refrigerator in the room on Shabbos.
Every time you open the door, the light turns on. The only way to have the light not turn on, is to leave the door to fridge open and never close it. Even if that is done, there is another issue. There are electric sensors in the fridge which record every time something is removed or placed in the fridge.
Thanks for the warning.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on August 07, 2014, 01:39:00 PM
Warning: One MAY NOT use the refrigerator in the room on Shabbos.
Every time you open the door, the light turns on. The only way to have the light not turn on, is to leave the door to fridge open and never close it. Even if that is done, there is another issue. There are electric sensors in the fridge which record every time something is removed or placed in the fridge.
thats crazy, how could the managers not realize how silly that is in Jlem?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Feivish on August 07, 2014, 03:10:17 PM
Warning: One MAY NOT use the refrigerator in the room on Shabbos.
Every time you open the door, the light turns on. The only way to have the light not turn on, is to leave the door to fridge open and never close it. Even if that is done, there is another issue. There are electric sensors in the fridge which record every time something is removed or placed in the fridge.
I wouldn't call it a refrigerator as it's a automatic minibar that detects when you take something from the fridge and there is no extra space in there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on August 07, 2014, 03:19:34 PM
thats crazy, how could the managers not realize how silly that is in Jlem?
The minibar was installed and is run by a private company, not the hotel management
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jkhein on August 07, 2014, 03:35:14 PM
The minibar was installed and is run by a private company, not the hotel management
doesn't make much more sense, they didn't break in and install these without permission.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on August 07, 2014, 04:58:04 PM
doesn't make much more sense, they didn't break in and install these without permission.
+108. its a shanda. anyone know a Reichman to bring this to their attention (hard to believe no one has yet).
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2014, 05:02:32 PM
+108. its a shanda. anyone know a Reichman to bring this to their attention (hard to believe no one has yet).
And let them know to make the hotel mehadrin while you're at it :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jkhein on August 07, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
And let them know to make the hotel mehadrin while you're at it :P
I can understand they don't want this, the other thing though needs to be brought up
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on August 07, 2014, 05:06:00 PM
And let them know to make the hotel mehadrin while you're at it :P

Mehadrin ?
they want to be racist for a reason.
what ? Mincha Maariv in the hallways all the time ????

but unfair.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on August 07, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
+108. its a shanda. anyone know a Reichman to bring this to their attention (hard to believe no one has yet).
Te reichmans have nothing to do with the management of the hotel.. They managed the construction... Now it's all run by Hilton.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on August 07, 2014, 06:57:33 PM
And let them know to make the hotel mehadrin while you're at it :P
They consider it mehadrin- as the mashgiach will tell you all the food is mehadrin.
The reichmans themselves do eat there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on August 08, 2014, 12:02:41 AM
Te reichmans have nothing to do with the management of the hotel.. They managed the construction... Now it's all run by Hilton.

ye, like someone who put $100 million into something is not gonna say something in his own place cuz he hired a company to run it??  :o :o

If Donald Trump walked into one of his buildings and found an overflowing garbage can, he would fire the management company.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on August 14, 2014, 11:42:03 AM
Are they no longer accepting points? Any date i put in comes up unavailable.

For me the difference is that i have booked a stay i may not use and was going to cancel, but if its not available anymore i'll make sure to use it somehow.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on August 14, 2014, 01:29:25 PM
i was checking from an account that doesnt have enough points, so nothing shows. but without signing in, they are available.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on August 26, 2014, 12:47:48 AM
They attach many restrictions to room redemption. For instance, many stays require at least five nights. Also, they only offer a very limited amount of rooms at the 80,000 points a night level. Try a five night stay and shift to a day before or a day after and see if you have any luck.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on August 28, 2014, 04:43:59 AM
Anyone have the mashgiach's number or know if kosher standards have changed/whether they take terumos/maaseros etc. along with meat stringencies? Also, has anyone been upgraded as a gold when using their free weekend cert, or should i expect to only have a king superior room? hoping to go this shabbos, thx so much!


Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on August 28, 2014, 05:47:52 AM
I just spoke to Eli the mashgiach myself, can give his number if u pm me. All meats are rabbanut jlem, Kehilot, chareidis or aguda, with 80 to 90 being Kehilot. I haven't been in Israel in a while, but Kehilot is a newer hechsher pushed by r karelitz per Eli. All veggies with big issues are gush Katif and all other stuff with terumos massros issues are bought from rabbanut mehadrin.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on August 28, 2014, 05:49:16 AM
Anyone have the mashgiach's number or know if kosher standards have changed/whether they take terumos/maaseros etc. along with meat stringencies? Also, has anyone been upgraded as a gold when using their free weekend cert, or should i expect to only have a king superior room? hoping to go this shabbos, thx so much!



FYI, every kashrus in Israel takes trumos/maasros.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 28, 2014, 05:52:51 AM
=All meats are rabbanut jlem,
Wait what
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on August 28, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
Wait what
oy vey...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on August 28, 2014, 08:56:55 AM
Wait what
sorry, was on my phone tapatalk, he said rabannut MEHADRIN jlem, and 80-90% BEING KEHILOT
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shnoz on August 30, 2014, 10:21:39 PM
And let them know to make the hotel mehadrin while you're at it :P
Not possible, to be mehadrin you can only have non-jews working on shabbos. Because of the proximity to the old city which is a high security zone legally they can't do that.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on August 31, 2014, 12:48:58 AM
Not possible, to be mehadrin you can only have non-jews working on shabbos. Because of the proximity to the old city which is a high security zone legally they can't do that.
Doesn't the KD have almost only Arab staff in the kitchen and dining room?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 31, 2014, 03:53:56 AM
Not possible, to be mehadrin you can only have non-jews working on shabbos. Because of the proximity to the old city which is a high security zone legally they can't do that.
That's utter non sense
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sharabob on August 31, 2014, 08:34:11 AM
FYI, every kashrus in Israel takes trumos/maasros.
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shnoz on August 31, 2014, 10:21:50 AM
That's utter non sense
That's what I was told by the mashgiach in the David citadel... But if you know better...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shnoz on August 31, 2014, 10:22:48 AM
Doesn't the KD have almost only Arab staff in the kitchen and dining room?
Not just in the kitchen, front desk everywhere
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on September 02, 2014, 05:34:14 PM
Seemed like most of the servers and the guy in charge were arab or blonde/not-jewishy (just guessing), and definitely my server Bashar.

here's my review from our short shabbos stay. the place is really the best kosher hotel i have ever stayed at (including pesach programs). Attention to detail in the hotel is unaparalleled though kosher oopsies like the minibar problem and a shabbos mode that turns off too many lights are annoying. Why can't Israeli hotels just buy a bunch of kosher lamps?
Service was really over the top, though the food for Fri Night dinner wasnt really prime grill/RC quality, the overall experience and choices were worth it, esp for israel. Note that beer and cocktails cost extra on shabbos (soft drinks, sparkling water and basic israeli wines are free). http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293983-d2141296-r225828646-Waldorf_Astoria_Jerusalem-Jerusalem_Jerusalem_District.html#CHECK_RATES_CONT The bellhops changed a tire for me, but i had no cash to tip them, feel a little terrible about that.

Breakfast wasnt that special, feel like the breakfast at the Ruth Rimonim in Tsfat was better.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: meshugener on September 02, 2014, 07:13:03 PM
thats crazy, how could the managers not realize how silly that is in Jlem?
Because all the frumies already have apts in Jerusalem, so automatically the vast majority of the guest were supposed to be non-observant.

Oiy, what did he know about the Citi Reserve card.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on September 02, 2014, 09:46:59 PM
They attach many restrictions to room redemption. For instance, many stays require at least five nights. Also, they only offer a very limited amount of rooms at the 80,000 points a night level. Try a five night stay and shift to a day before or a day after and see if you have any luck.
I haven't looked around a lot but just booked prime dates (Christmas, New Years) at 80k points a night for 5 nights.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on September 02, 2014, 09:47:46 PM
Anything I can/should expect for diamond member?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on September 02, 2014, 10:22:49 PM
Anything I can/should expect for diamond member?
as a gold u get breakfast, a small nice barkan red wine and a small plate of fruits (and kids room got cookies). also, if u ask the cleaning crew nicely, they'll give u some dead sea mud tubes (they offered to me for free).
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on September 03, 2014, 06:20:01 AM
Any chance they'd allow 3 young children in the room with parents?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on September 03, 2014, 11:07:22 AM
Any chance they'd allow 3 young children in the room with parents?
I actually had a little disagreement with the HHonors person booking my hhonors reserve weekend award nights (perhaps not using award nights may be different).
Although booking.com and hotels.com show the rooms having a 3 person max, she said all basic and deluxe rooms being reserved on award had a strict 2 person max (these rooms are big btw, though most of the space is in the bathroom, but also note that kings have a bit less space with a small balcony instead). so when i reserved for my family (me, my wife, my 7 yr old, 6 yr old and 3 month old) she said we would need three rooms or would need to leave a kid home. i huca'd and got same problem.
so i just booked one room for 2 adults and an attached one for 2 kids, and then brought everyone in and noone on their staff said a word.
Don't think they will allow on reservation 5 peeps unless some special suite, but if u just bring em in, it'll be like back in yeshiva when 20 guys packed into a motel to watch the super bowl on a 19 inch tv :).
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on September 03, 2014, 11:09:26 AM
I actually had a little disagreement with the HHonors person booking my hhonors reserve weekend award nights (perhaps not using award nights may be different).
Although booking.com and hotels.com show the rooms having a 3 person max, she said all basic and deluxe rooms being reserved on award had a strict 2 person max (these rooms are big btw, though most of the space is in the bathroom, but also note that kings have a bit less space with a small balcony instead). so when i reserved for my family (me, my wife, my 7 yr old, 6 yr old and 3 month old) she said we would need three rooms or would need to leave a kid home. i huca'd and got same problem.
so i just booked one room for 2 adults and an attached one for 2 kids, and then brought everyone in and noone on their staff said a word.
Don't think they will allow on reservation 5 peeps unless some special suite, but if u just bring em in, it'll be like back in yeshiva when 20 guys packed into a motel to watch the super bowl on a 19 inch tv :).

Been there, Done that  ;).

We even took 2 couches from the lobby when no one was looking  :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on September 03, 2014, 01:55:54 PM
the place is really the best kosher hotel i have ever stayed at (including pesach programs).
Have you been to the Ritz? IME the service there is 10x better
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on September 03, 2014, 02:28:17 PM
Have you been to the Ritz? IME the service there is 10x better
Haven't been Zoche yet, may the chance come b'meheirah beyameini...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on September 05, 2014, 12:42:04 AM
I haven't looked around a lot but just booked prime dates (Christmas, New Years) at 80k points a night for 5 nights.

I am going the same time, I will be in Israel from Dec. 25th through Jan. 1. However, I could not find any availability for a 5 night stay from the 25th. The only combination that worked was checking in after Shabbos on the 27th and checking out the 1st. How long ago did you book yours?

(Also, do you have your flights booked? I have a flight from NYC-TLV, but I am still waiting for award space to open up for the TLV-NYC return.)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on September 07, 2014, 08:46:40 AM
I just spoke to Eli the mashgiach myself, can give his number if u pm me. All meats are rabbanut jlem, Kehilot, chareidis or aguda, with 80 to 90 being Kehilot. I haven't been in Israel in a while, but Kehilot is a newer hechsher pushed by r karelitz per Eli. All veggies with big issues are gush Katif and all other stuff with terumos massros issues are bought from rabbanut mehadrin.
Pm sent.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: izz1123 on September 09, 2014, 08:51:01 AM
If anyone is interested, I have a reservation for two rooms throughout the whole succos at the sold out Waldorf, I am not a dealer I decided to take a different apartment, my rate is really competitive..
Please let me know if your interested....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on September 09, 2014, 09:03:06 AM
If anyone is interested, I have a reservation for two rooms throughout the whole succos at the sold out Waldorf, I am not a dealer I decided to take a different apartment, my rate is really competitive..
Please let me know if your interested....
Read the scam post before doing this
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on September 09, 2014, 12:14:08 PM
If anyone is interested, I have a reservation for two rooms throughout the whole succos at the sold out Waldorf, I am not a dealer I decided to take a different apartment, my rate is really competitive..
Please let me know if your interested....
You need to post a price
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: DrDanny on September 09, 2014, 10:26:56 PM
Read the scam post before doing this
If you go to the counter together you can put incidentals on the guests CC.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on September 10, 2014, 12:50:21 PM
If anyone is interested, I have a reservation for two rooms throughout the whole succos at the sold out Waldorf, I am not a dealer I decided to take a different apartment, my rate is really competitive..
Please let me know if your interested....
Not sold out...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: danR on September 18, 2014, 05:07:12 PM
I booked shabbas over thanksgiving weekend using citi reserve free nights, anyone have issues using the free night reward with one child in the room with 2 adults?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on September 18, 2014, 08:44:16 PM
check a few pages back, i had an issue reserving officially with 3 in a room, but when i got there of course no one said boo. did u reserve officially for 2 adults plus child in one room?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: danR on September 20, 2014, 09:17:55 PM
I just put 2 adults
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on September 21, 2014, 01:47:11 AM
Should be fine, if u wanna be safe check in yourself and then bring wife/kid
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 21, 2014, 03:35:39 AM
If anyone is interested, I have a reservation for two rooms throughout the whole succos at the sold out Waldorf, I am not a dealer I decided to take a different apartment, my rate is really competitive..
Please let me know if your interested....
Which room type and when does it start?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: izz1123 on September 23, 2014, 03:14:38 PM
Twin deluxe starts oct 6th until the 19th
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: izz1123 on September 23, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
If anyone is interested, I have a reservation for two rooms throughout the whole succos at the sold out Waldorf, I am not a dealer I decided to take a different apartment, my rate is really competitive..
Please let me know if your interested....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 23, 2014, 03:15:57 PM
Waldorf is far from sold out. Many rooms available on their site.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on September 23, 2014, 04:20:24 PM
If anyone is interested, I have a reservation for two rooms throughout the whole succos at the sold out Waldorf, I am not a dealer I decided to take a different apartment, my rate is really competitive..
Please let me know if your interested....
Its not sold out. And per forum rules you have to post an asking price.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: izz1123 on September 23, 2014, 07:13:18 PM
Looking for $16,500 for all 13 nights for both rooms..
Please let me know..
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on September 23, 2014, 07:28:03 PM
Looking for $16,500 for all 13 nights for both rooms..
Please let me know..
That's like $635 a night per room, wow.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on September 23, 2014, 08:03:22 PM
That's like $635 a night per room, wow.

Back to third grade you go.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on September 23, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
Back to third grade you go.
Why? Is he not correct? Is 634.61 better?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on September 23, 2014, 08:06:35 PM
Back to third grade you go.
Lol,  I did 2×13=26
16500÷26 =634.6153846154 no?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on September 23, 2014, 08:07:05 PM
Why? Is he not correct? Is 634.61 better?
Jinks!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on September 23, 2014, 08:18:07 PM
Jinks!
Why do you guys take it as an accusation, he just gave Myccrabbi a compliment for figuring out the math  ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on September 23, 2014, 08:19:58 PM
Lol,  I did 2×13=26
16500÷26 =634.6153846154 no?

You, my friend, have proven that I need to go back to third grade  :-[

Missed the fact that there were two rooms.

Apologies!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on September 23, 2014, 08:21:13 PM


You, my friend, have proven that I need to go back to third grade  :-[

Missed the fact that there were two rooms.

Apologies!
no worries

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on September 24, 2014, 04:08:27 AM
You, my friend, have proven that I need to go back to third grade  :-[
I blame the 'college' you went to.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chff on October 11, 2014, 03:52:58 PM
Where can I get on touch with the mashgiach? I want to go over to lunch
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Sammy12345 on October 11, 2014, 07:37:20 PM
Where can I get on touch with the mashgiach? I want to go over to lunch

Call the hotel they will take down your number and he will call you back...

Can you please write the info that he gives you on the thread for others  ;D

I lost the info otherwise I would have done it....

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 11, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
The chicken is from Kehilos
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chff on October 11, 2014, 07:45:23 PM
My interest is in the dairy restaurant and the shmitah status
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chff on October 11, 2014, 08:23:58 PM
Call the hotel they will take down your number and he will call you back...

Can you please write the info that he gives you on the thread for others  ;D

I lost the info otherwise I would have done it....
Called and they gave me the mashgiach's number. Will call him in the morning
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E-MAN on October 11, 2014, 11:01:56 PM
Anyone staying here for succos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on October 12, 2014, 03:46:11 AM
yes. Pm me.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on October 12, 2014, 05:17:19 AM
Anyone staying for succos who wants to treat me to a free breakfast?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on October 12, 2014, 05:18:35 AM

Anyone staying for succos who wants to treat me to a free breakfast?

Lol. If you get a yes, I will ask the same
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on October 12, 2014, 05:26:45 AM
You're in Israel chuck?
Not that crazy to get an invite, I remember you gave one out ounce.
Besides maybe someone is leaving early morning for a trip or something and can PM his or her room number to use.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on October 12, 2014, 05:33:02 AM

You're in Israel chuck?
Not that crazy to get an invite, I remember you gave one out ounce.
Besides maybe someone is leaving early morning for a trip or something and can PM his or her room number to use.

Yup im here and when I was there I did give out an invite
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on October 12, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
So it's normal that they block out redemptions for Sukkos 2015?

How were people able to book it for Sukkos 2014?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on October 12, 2014, 11:42:31 AM
So it's normal that they block out redemptions for Sukkos 2015?

How were people able to book it for Sukkos 2014?

Maybe it's before they realized how many people would redeem points for nights.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Sammy12345 on October 14, 2014, 07:35:31 AM
Has anyone used here a diamond status? Did it do anything for you?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on October 14, 2014, 12:59:46 PM
Im here for Succos. Booked 12 nts in 2 rooms all on points with no problem. I have Diamond status and don't think I am getting anything more than a Gold HH member might get. Will write up a full TR when I return. Chag Sameach!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on October 14, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
Im here for Succos. Booked 12 nts in 2 rooms all on points with no problem. I have Diamond status and don't think I am getting anything more than a Gold HH member might get. Will write up a full TR when I return. Chag Sameach!

Awesome. When did you book?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on October 14, 2014, 01:24:39 PM
Im here for Succos. Booked 12 nts in 2 rooms all on points with no problem. I have Diamond status and don't think I am getting anything more than a Gold HH member might get. Will write up a full TR when I return. Chag Sameach!
How many points did that cost? Close to 2 mil, no?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on October 14, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
How many points did that cost? Close to 2 mil, no?
If its on point break then only a mere 120k
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on October 14, 2014, 01:32:57 PM
six months ago. took a while before I had all of the points so I booked it piece by piece but I got it done!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on October 14, 2014, 01:37:35 PM
If its on point break then only a mere 120k
120k for 24 nights? At Waldorf? What are these Hilton points breaks you speak of?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Myccrabbi on October 14, 2014, 01:40:07 PM
120k for 24 nights? At Waldorf? What are these Hilton points breaks you speak of?
My bad,
Got mixed up with CP.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on October 14, 2014, 03:56:00 PM
six months ago. took a while before I had all of the points so I booked it piece by piece but I got it done!
Wow, impressive.
How'd you rack up the points?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on October 14, 2014, 04:33:16 PM
Had HH points; Amex transfers to Hawaiian and Virgin at 1:2. Reserve vouchers for the weekend nights. Was 400k short so I traded a friend UR points for HH points at 1:3.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on October 14, 2014, 04:46:01 PM
Had HH points; Amex transfers to Hawaiian and Virgin at 1:2. Reserve vouchers for the weekend nights. Was 400k short so I traded a friend UR points for HH points at 1:3.
Amazing!

Did you eat at the hotel? If so, how much was that?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: alt123 on October 20, 2014, 12:44:27 AM
Im here for Succos. Booked 12 nts in 2 rooms all on points with no problem. I have Diamond status and don't think I am getting anything more than a Gold HH member might get. Will write up a full TR when I return. Chag Sameach!
They gave me a room upgrade, early check-in and 2 free drinks at the bar. Said it was because of the Diamond status.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on October 20, 2014, 12:40:23 PM
I got 4 free drinks per day (we had 2 rooms). I'm also a HH Diamond member. Wasn't sure if Gold was getting that as well. I got a room upgrade too, but I think they give that to any HH memeber if they can.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 20, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
Gold got them too.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on October 20, 2014, 02:24:43 PM
I estimate the breakfast and drink coupons at approx. 2K in value for us.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 20, 2014, 02:25:41 PM
Almost all bookings get free breakfast even when the booking site says it's not included. Breakfast is 140 shekel for anybody so $2k sounds high.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on October 20, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
140 shekels. 4ppl, 12nts is approx. $1824. They were charging on the average $10 a drink in the bar - which was another $480 for us totalling $2304 in value. We used every drink coupn.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on October 21, 2014, 05:52:41 PM
Is there any way to get breakfast included on a point stay with a Silver account?

If the additional guest is Gold can they get they get breakfast if was booked with points from a silver account.

Any info would be appreciated. Tnx
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 12:53:11 AM
FWIW, I heard from someone who heard it from the Family who built the hotel.... that you can eat Lecatchileh in the Dairy restaurant.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on October 22, 2014, 03:58:23 AM
FWIW, I heard from someone who heard it from the Family who built the hotel.... that you can eat Lecatchileh in the Dairy restaurant.
Oy
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on October 22, 2014, 04:39:04 AM
I spoke to rav borinstein who's high up in rabbanut yerushalaim and he told me that the food is fine and that everything is mehadrin, meat is kehilot etc'
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: reed on October 22, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
FWIW, I heard from someone who heard it from the Family who built the hotel.... that you can eat Lecatchileh in the Dairy restaurant.


Hahaha. Excellent post
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on October 22, 2014, 09:42:17 AM
FWIW, I heard from someone who heard it from the Family who built the hotel.... that you can eat Lecatchileh in the Dairy restaurant.
And since I read this on the Internet, I'll spread the word. Thanks!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 10:19:41 AM
Oy
Something hurts you?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on October 22, 2014, 10:23:51 AM
does the hotel use heter mechira
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: reed on October 22, 2014, 10:24:19 AM
Something hurts you?

Lichoairah his eyes tut vey after reading that.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 10:26:20 AM
Lichoairah his eyes tut vey after reading that.
My thoughts exact. Hence my question, I wanna know EXACTLY what hurts him? Maybe I can fix/help.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
does the hotel use heter mechira
I was told that NO. But again I wouldn't take Achrayes.
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: plainbachur on October 29, 2014, 10:52:46 AM
While I'm trying to confirm this report I have heard from a family member that is involved in this hotel that ST Regis is looking to buy the king david as a answer to this hotel. They say there are some big companies involved looking to buy it and bring in SPG to run the hotel as a St Regis.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on October 29, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
While I'm trying to confirm this report I have heard from a family member that is involved in this hotel that ST Regis is looking to buy the king david as a answer to this hotel. They say there are some big companies involved looking to buy it and bring in SPG to run the hotel as a St Regis.
I dont know that being a St Regis is any more chashuv that being THE King David.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on October 29, 2014, 11:45:15 AM
While I'm trying to confirm this report I have heard from a family member that is involved in this hotel that ST Regis is looking to buy the king david as a answer to this hotel. They say there are some big companies involved looking to buy it and bring in SPG to run the hotel as a St Regis.

Sounds like a rumor started in a Yeshiva Coffee Room
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on October 29, 2014, 12:52:41 PM
I dont know that being a St Regis is any more chashuv that being THE King David.
good point
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on October 29, 2014, 01:03:34 PM
While I'm trying to confirm this report I have heard from a family member that is involved in this hotel that ST Regis is looking to buy the king david as a answer to this hotel. They say there are some big companies involved looking to buy it and bring in SPG to run the hotel as a St Regis.
Sounds like a rumor started in a Yeshiva Coffee Room

more like at the chavrusa tumult  :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on October 29, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
Sounds like a rumor started in a Yeshiva Coffee Room
He says that he heard it from someone who works at the hotel....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on October 29, 2014, 03:28:16 PM
I dont know that being a St Regis is any more chashuv that being THE King David.
Um... You can use spg points, that seems pretty good.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on October 29, 2014, 04:52:09 PM
Um... You can use spg points, that seems pretty good.
of course, but his point was that it would be odd to run it as a st regis since the king david is probably more prestigious
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: alt123 on November 06, 2014, 04:02:22 PM
Someone PM'd me about my experience at the Waldorf shabbos meals so I'm posting my 2 cents.

We ate the Friday night meal at the hotel. The meal was delicious. Each course had a choice of traditional shabbos food or more elegant dish. The meal started with a spread of interesting salads, potato salad with herring on top, caviar, pickled peppers... The first course consisted of gefilte fish and salmon. For soup there was a choice of chicken soup or a heavy mushroom soup, almost like mushroom sauce and very tasty.

Main course was a choice of chicken, duck, roast beef or lamb chops. The waitress brought us all four and explained that the mashgiach doesn't let them write and it's too hard to keep track of the orders so they bring out everything. The chicken was nothing special, the roast beef was good, the duck came with an interesting side of steamed purple cabbage and was quite good. But the lamb chops were out of this world.

The dessert was some sort of delicious layered cake and ice cream, definitely worth asking for doubles but I was too full.The service was great, of course. They served wine, I assume it was mevushal. The day meal was not an option for us since they don't start until 1:00. I don't like waiting that long, although we did take advantage of the regular breakfast, of which I have extensive pictures (from during the week) if anyone is interested.

Hope I didn't bore anyone.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on November 06, 2014, 04:08:58 PM
Bore? Definitely not! Thanks for the mini-TR.

Can't wait to stay here.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on November 06, 2014, 04:12:02 PM
Bore? Definitely not! Thanks for the mini-TR.

Can't wait to stay here.
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on November 06, 2014, 04:13:49 PM
Someone PM'd me about my experience at the Waldorf shabbos meals so I'm posting my 2 cents.

We ate the Friday night meal at the hotel. The meal was delicious. Each course had a choice of traditional shabbos food or more elegant dish. The meal started with a spread of interesting salads, potato salad with herring on top, caviar, pickled peppers... The first course consisted of gefilte fish and salmon. For soup there was a choice of chicken soup or a heavy mushroom soup, almost like mushroom sauce and very tasty.

Main course was a choice of chicken, duck, roast beef or lamb chops. The waitress brought us all four and explained that the mashgiach doesn't let them write and it's too hard to keep track of the orders so they bring out everything. The chicken was nothing special, the roast beef was good, the duck came with an interesting side of steamed purple cabbage and was quite good. But the lamb chops were out of this world.

The dessert was some sort of delicious layered cake and ice cream, definitely worth asking for doubles but I was too full.The service was great, of course. They served wine, I assume it was mevushal. The day meal was not an option for us since they don't start until 1:00. I don't like waiting that long, although we did take advantage of the regular breakfast, of which I have extensive pictures (from during the week) if anyone is interested.

Hope I didn't bore anyone.
We like to see and read any and all TR's.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E-MAN on November 06, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
Main course was a choice of chicken, duck, roast beef or lamb chops. Hope I didn't bore anyone.
Did you have to choose only one?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on November 06, 2014, 06:25:30 PM
Not bored at all.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: dealer on November 06, 2014, 06:59:26 PM
anyone here have the number to the mashgiach  or know how to get in touch with him?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: alt123 on November 06, 2014, 07:50:58 PM
Did you have to choose only one?
The menu states that you get a choice of one. However, while I was still mulling over the choices the waitress put all 4 on our table even though it was just myself and wife. She explained that they are not allowed to write like I mentioned in original post. It was interesting to me since they were non jews. Maybe they were so generous because I went in August during the war when the hotel wasn't very full so they had lots extra.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: alt123 on November 06, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
anyone here have the number to the mashgiach  or know how to get in touch with him?
The mashgiach is Elyashiv Nafha. His number is 054-950-9068. He seems like a haimishe guy. Very accessible and eager to answer questions. He told me usually the meat is badatz rubin etc. but since running the hotel is such a big operation, they sometimes need another supplier, rabanut mehadrin. When I asked him if on that particular shabbos they used rabanut meat, he said he can never guarantee that it wasn't used.
I don't know if anything has changed since then.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on November 06, 2014, 09:03:46 PM
Thank you alt123 for all your info
ממנו ילמדו
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: itsyehuda on November 06, 2014, 10:06:40 PM

of course, but his point was that it would be odd to run it as a st regis since the king david is probably more prestigious

Meaning luxury collection is a better fit
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shauly on November 16, 2014, 03:39:19 PM
Has anyone transferred Virgin Atlantic to Hilton before and can tell me how long it took? I have the targeted Amex offer for 1:1.35 to VA, and then with the 1:1.5 ratio on VA to HH, I can save a ton of points booking the Waldorf..
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2014, 03:40:23 PM
You don't have the Hilton 1:2 offer?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on November 16, 2014, 03:40:48 PM
Has anyone transferred Virgin Atlantic to Hilton before and can tell me how long it took? I have the targeted Amex offer for 1:1.35 to VA, and then with the 1:1.5 ratio on VA to HH, I can save a ton of points booking the Waldorf..
Theres a targeted 1:2 transfer Amex to Hilton now also. I had it. Wifes account did not.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
Has anyone transferred Virgin Atlantic to Hilton before and can tell me how long it took? I have the targeted Amex offer for 1:1.35 to VA, and then with the 1:1.5 ratio on VA to HH, I can save a ton of points booking the Waldorf..

Better deal to sell the MR and buy HH.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on November 16, 2014, 03:45:05 PM
Better deal to sell the MR and buy HH.
Not really since the Waldorf Jlem adds a 18% tax on top of the room rate when paying cash.

Edit- just saw you said buy HH, not the room.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on November 16, 2014, 03:56:04 PM
18pct does not apply to Americans
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on November 16, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
18pct does not apply to Americans
Are you sure? I was looking at the site and there was no indication that that this was VAT or otherwise not applicable to Americans.

Hilton website automatically adds it in.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shauly on November 16, 2014, 04:16:06 PM
You don't have the Hilton 1:2 offer?

I don't have it unfortunately. It comes out to a bit more than 1:2 this way, but it's more convoluted.

Better deal to sell the MR and buy HH.

Even with the two transfers, if it will go through in time, I feel like it's still simpler than selling. I'll look into it though, thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 17, 2014, 08:35:54 AM
Are you sure? I was looking at the site and there was no indication that that this was VAT or otherwise not applicable to Americans.

Hilton website automatically adds it in.
Absolutely certain 18% VAT is added for Israelis. Not for foreigners. Same for every hotel in Israel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rng on November 18, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
whats the cheapest way of booking the waldorf with points?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2014, 10:17:43 PM
AXON or 5th night free.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: YT on November 19, 2014, 12:25:15 PM
AXON or 5th night free.

Looking to book Waldorf (or any good hotel for that matter) with amex points for the 25,26,27th next week. Kinda desperate for some help I've been reading alot but I need the best route to do this I have alot of points
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shauly on November 19, 2014, 01:10:16 PM
Looking to book Waldorf (or any good hotel for that matter) with amex points for the 25,26,27th next week. Kinda desperate for some help I've been reading alot but I need the best route to do this I have alot of points

Did you check if you are targeted for the 1:2 transfer ratio from MR to HH?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: YT on November 19, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
Did you check if you are targeted for the 1:2 transfer ratio from MR to HH?

I was not targeted unfortunately
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shauly on November 19, 2014, 02:51:31 PM
I was not targeted unfortunately

I don't know if they match stuff like this, but it can't hurt to call in and ask for the offer.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Redbull3 on November 23, 2014, 01:41:42 AM

You don't have the Hilton 1:2 offer?

Isn't his way better/more than 2?
What am I missing..
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shauly on November 23, 2014, 01:47:56 AM
Isn't his way better/more than 2?
What am I missing..

It wasn't way better. 2025 per thousand as opposed to 2000 per thousand, but a lot more trouble.
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Redbull3 on November 23, 2014, 01:53:01 AM
It wasn't way better. 2025 per thousand as opposed to 2000 per thousand, but a lot more trouble.

By way I meant "approach" not "much" but thanks for confirming what I thought, that it's indeed slightly better

What trouble?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shauly on November 23, 2014, 02:02:56 AM
To transfer it twice and risk the points not making it over in time.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on November 23, 2014, 06:26:25 PM
How many points is it per night? Can someone put it in the wiki?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on November 23, 2014, 06:38:48 PM
How many points is it per night? Can someone put it in the wiki?
You can easily find this out by searching on the HHonors website.

It's 80k Points per night regular. I don't even begin to understand Axon rewards.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on November 23, 2014, 07:00:08 PM
You can easily find this out by searching on the HHonors website.

It's 80k Points per night regular. I don't even begin to understand Axon rewards.
I looked and saw it was 80, I just wasnt sure if that was for certain nights only.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Redbull3 on November 24, 2014, 07:17:35 AM
Is there a high/low season or is always 80?
Looks like Axon would be 260k for a 4 night grouping because it's a cat 9. Cmiiw.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: G11600 on November 27, 2014, 02:31:21 PM
Can someone confirm whether Diamond guest on points gets free breakfast here? It is not required by Hhonors at Waldorf Astoria properties, but seem to reports here that it is given..

Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on November 27, 2014, 02:51:03 PM
Can someone confirm whether Diamond guest on points gets free breakfast here? It is not required by Hhonors at Waldorf Astoria properties, but seem to reports here that it is given..

Thanks
If you go to the website to book, every room says free breakfast. With cash or points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on December 03, 2014, 02:30:57 PM
What are peoples experiences with getting free breakfast on rooms booked on points from a non elite account?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on December 03, 2014, 02:36:47 PM
What are peoples experiences with getting free breakfast on rooms booked on points from a non elite account?
Read the thread, see above.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on December 04, 2014, 09:36:50 AM
Read the thread, see above.

The comment above is referring to a diamond account. I was asking about a non elite account.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on December 04, 2014, 09:39:52 AM
The comment above is referring to a diamond account. I was asking about a non elite account.
If you go to the website to book, every room says free breakfast. With cash or points.

Check the website.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ephcc90 on December 04, 2014, 10:42:10 AM
Has anyone used the two weekend certs from the citi hilton reserve card here? Any way to use it for a weekday? It seems like a much easier option then trying to accumulate the necessary points...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on December 04, 2014, 10:48:40 AM
Has anyone used the two weekend certs from the citi hilton reserve card here? Any way to use it for a weekday? It seems like a much easier option then trying to accumulate the necessary points...

Yes. People used them here.

And technically NO.. They can only be used on weekend. But for more on that check out this thread - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18298
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on December 07, 2014, 07:54:06 PM
What are peoples experiences with getting free breakfast on rooms booked on points from a non elite account?

I was there for 12nts over Succos. People were walking into breakfast and no one was really checking room numbers. They asked me for my room number once in 12 days. Nonetheless, everyone gets breakfast.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 01:00:39 AM
I called them and asked for the Hashgacha. I was told that it is "Rabbanut Yerushalaim". What is that? Is it reliable?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 02:29:50 AM

I called them and asked for the Hashgacha. I was told that it is "Rabbanut Yerushalaim". What is that? Is it reliable?
depends on your LOR. Most chareidim do not hold of it in standard scenarios except in specific instances where they know the Masgiach or such
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 08:04:48 AM
depends on your LOR. Most chareidim do not hold of it in standard scenarios except in specific instances where they know the Masgiach or such
so people in this thread that stay there, don't eat there?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 10:01:57 AM

so people in this thread that stay there, don't eat there?
from reading thru it seems like they spoke to the Masgiach and got the rundown of where all the food comes from and then they felt comfortable eating it. (Which still seems to be unreliable if you don't eat plain rabbanut even if the meat is "usually" rubin)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on December 14, 2014, 10:12:26 AM
@Emkay
If you read thru the thread you'll realize the real reason of why the hasgacha in this place is rabanot in the first place.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 10:16:47 AM

@Emkay
If you read thru the thread you'll realize the real reason of why the hasgacha in this place is rabanot in the first place.
i read thru the thread with all its unconfirmed coffee room hock
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on December 14, 2014, 10:28:53 AM
@Emkay
If you read thru the thread you'll realize the real reason of why the hasgacha in this place is rabanot in the first place.
why is the reason relevant?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on December 14, 2014, 11:35:21 AM
i read thru the thread with all its unconfirmed coffee room hock
Most are saying that after speaking tobthe mashgiach they are convinced that it's totally okay to eat there.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E-MAN on December 14, 2014, 11:36:36 AM
Are they still accepting the free weekend night certificates?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 11:36:44 AM
Most are saying that after speaking tobthe mashgiach they are convinced that it's totally okay to eat there.
I just spoke to someone who is very familiar with the Hasgochas over there and he said that the Rabbanut Yerushalaim has a ton of kulos
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 11:49:23 AM

I just spoke to someone who is very familiar with the Hasgochas over there and he said that the Rabbanut Yerushalaim has a ton of kulos
thats no secret. There is a reason that almost no one who is familiar with hechserim relies on it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on December 14, 2014, 11:51:55 AM
thats no secret. There is a reason that almost no one who is familiar with hechserim relies on it

Thats not my what im hearing.
There are just so many heimish people going there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 11:56:31 AM

Thats not my what im hearing.
There are just so many heimish people going there.
that changes nothing. Either way if that's a heter in your books then we apparently are from different strains of Judaism 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 12:12:24 PM
that changes nothing. Either way if that's a heter in your books then we apparently are from different strains of Judaism
is there any resturant or other place that I can just buy Shabbos meals from near the Waldorf?
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 12:18:30 PM
is there any resturant or other place that I can just buy Shabbos meals from near the Waldorf?
to eat there on shabbos or takeout meals? dunno about right there but you can get in any takeout in yerusalayim. If you were going to pay full price by the Waldorf then their are people that cook meals for you to order and they will deliver it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 12:23:45 PM
to eat there on shabbos or takeout meals? dunno about right there but you can get in any takeout in yerusalayim. If you were going to pay full price by the Waldorf then their are people that cook meals for you to order and they will deliver it
awesome, do you have any of their contact info?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 12:51:30 PM
awesome, do you have any of their contact info?
sugarandspice@gmail.com makes amazing food, considered top of the line in this so don't expect it to be cheap, althought the waldorf isnt either. ill pm you the number
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on December 14, 2014, 01:06:55 PM

sugarandspice@gmail.com makes amazing food, considered top of the line in this so don't expect it to be cheap, althought the waldorf isnt either. ill pm you the number
+1000 she makes amazing food!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 02:36:54 PM
sugarandspice@gmail.com makes amazing food, considered top of the line in this so don't expect it to be cheap, althought the waldorf isnt either. ill pm you the number
+1 thanks!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 03:30:40 PM
And logistically how does the ordering the food work out? How  does it stay warm? Where does one eat it?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 03:42:08 PM

And logistically how does the ordering the food work out? How  does it stay warm? Where does one eat it?
hot plate in your room
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on December 14, 2014, 03:58:37 PM
Thats not my what im hearing.
There are just so many heimish people going there.
All the people eating there (or the ones that care to ask) are not relying on the 'rabanut yerushalyim' rather the mashgiachs word that everything is ok an a high standard. 

Up to you to trust him or not...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on December 14, 2014, 04:36:18 PM

sugarandspice@gmail.com makes amazing food, considered top of the line in this so don't expect it to be cheap, althought the waldorf isnt either. ill pm you the number
sorry that's sugarandspiceisrael@gmail.com
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 14, 2014, 04:41:26 PM
sorry that's sugarandspiceisrael@gmail.com
Thanks. Is there a good place to eat besides the room (perhaps a restaurant?) I need a place for the family that is  a Shabbos Seuda like atmosphere...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on December 14, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
All the people eating there (or the ones that care to ask) are not relying on the 'rabanut yerushalyim' rather the mashgiachs word that everything is ok an a high standard. 

Up to you to trust him or not...

If everything was a highest standard they wouldn't have regular Rabbanut.
My guess is that most items are Mehadrin but they serve a few non mehadrin meat items like foie gras or non Mehadrin cheeses. That's usually the case when I asked the Mashgichim of other Rabbanut hotels.

I should add that because there is usually very good supervision in hotels (eg. Mashgiach temidi, experienced Mashgichim) many people feel fine eating there after talking with the mashgiach.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on December 14, 2014, 08:03:54 PM
Thanks. Is there a good place to eat besides the room (perhaps a restaurant?) I need a place for the family that is  a Shabbos Seuda like atmosphere...

How about another hotel like the Plaza or Kings?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on December 14, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
Cmiiw but I believe plaza and prima kings are both mehadrin
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on December 14, 2014, 10:10:26 PM
Cmiiw but I believe plaza and prima kings are both mehadrin
You are correct. Leonardo Plaza, Kings and also King Solomon are Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on December 25, 2014, 06:09:27 AM
Has anyone who stayed there recently know how much the shabbos meals cost pp? Do they charge for kids?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on December 27, 2014, 12:05:05 PM
Has anyone who stayed there recently know how much the shabbos meals cost pp? Do they charge for kids?

Just did it this past Shabbos...its 220 shekel for an adult and they didn't charge me for my two year old. Not sure what they charge for older kids.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on December 27, 2014, 03:34:52 PM
Just did it this past Shabbos...its 220 shekel for an adult and they didn't charge me for my two year old. Not sure what they charge for older kids.
You sure it's 220? I also ate there this past Shabbos and they told me 440 per adult.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on December 27, 2014, 04:51:47 PM
You sure it's 220? I also ate there this past Shabbos and they told me 440 per adult.

I paid my bill and they charged me $112.53 for the two of us. Maybe they were telling you what both meals would cost total or what one meal for the two of you would cost.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on December 27, 2014, 04:53:21 PM
I paid my bill and they charged me $112.53 for the two of us. Maybe they were telling you what both meals would cost total or what one meal for the two of you would cost.
Nice :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on December 27, 2014, 05:38:33 PM
Well this is really cheap!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 27, 2014, 06:13:55 PM
Well this is really cheap!
Does anyone know of a place that you can prepay for shabbos meals and eat there on shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on December 27, 2014, 06:23:48 PM
Does anyone know of a place that you can prepay for shabbos meals and eat there on shabbos?

Most if not all the hotels allow you to do that
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 27, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
Most if not all the hotels allow you to do that
I'm reffering to more of a takeout/resteraunt place. I'm staying by the Waldorf, but due to the Hechsher I am looking for another option for eating. Hotels that you aren't a guest by can charge a small fortune and when you are traveling with 8 people it adds up.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on December 27, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
Anyone know of any shul's close by (i.e. short walk) to the Waldorf with a Shachris minyan around 8 or later during the week?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on December 27, 2014, 11:21:14 PM
Anyone know of any shul's close by (i.e. short walk) to the Waldorf with a Shachris minyan around 8 or later during the week?
Not sure how far your willing to walk but the GRA shul on k'kl is probably a 10-20m walk.
I know its a minyan factory on shabbos,i assume during the week as well.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on December 28, 2014, 12:55:20 AM
Not sure how far your willing to walk but the GRA shul on k'kl is probably a 10-20m walk.
I know its a minyan factory on shabbos,i assume during the week as well.
Can almost make it to kotel already:)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on December 28, 2014, 01:05:56 AM
Can almost make it to kotel already:)
True,gra feels much closer though.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on December 28, 2014, 03:26:49 AM
True,gra feels much closer though.

Fyi, Great Synagogue has shachris at 8 and is about a 7 minute walk so that was closest option.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on December 28, 2014, 05:12:43 AM
I'm reffering to more of a takeout/resteraunt place. I'm staying by the Waldorf, but due to the Hechsher I am looking for another option for eating. Hotels that you aren't a guest by can charge a small fortune and when you are traveling with 8 people it adds up.
Every Rabbi I asked said the food there is good (kosher-wise)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on December 28, 2014, 05:21:13 AM
Every Rabbi I asked said the food there is good (kosher-wise)
Can you name a rabbi (or two) ?

(Not that I'm arguing, just want a good source)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on December 28, 2014, 06:12:02 AM
Can you name a rabbi (or two) ?

(Not that I'm arguing, just want a good source)
R Bringer and Rabbi Muller
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on December 28, 2014, 06:58:52 AM
Can you name a rabbi (or two) ?

(Not that I'm arguing, just want a good source)
I personally spoke to Rav Borinstein and he told me its ok.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: morgs on December 28, 2014, 07:08:49 AM
Has anyone who stayed there recently know how much the shabbos meals cost pp? Do they charge for kids?
The official price is 455 shekel per adult and children are free.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on December 28, 2014, 08:30:35 AM
what do the more established names say? (ex. r' zaritsky or even r' baum)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on December 28, 2014, 08:55:07 AM

Fyi, Great Synagogue has shachris at 8 and is about a 7 minute walk so that was closest option.
Good to know,had no idea they have services during the week.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: E-MAN on December 28, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
Anyone know of any shul's close by (i.e. short walk) to the Waldorf with a Shachris minyan around 8 or later during the week?
The Kotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on December 28, 2014, 12:43:50 PM
what do the more established names say? (ex. r' zaritsky or even r' baum)
Don't know rabbi zaretzky but I believe rabbi Baum said it's good but for me that's a reason not to eat there....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on December 28, 2014, 12:54:32 PM
Don't know rabbi zaretzky but I believe rabbi Baum said it's good but for me that's a reason not to eat there....
lol, i guess that settles it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on December 28, 2014, 01:11:36 PM
The Kotel?

Great Synagogue is far closer
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on December 28, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Good to know,had no idea they have services during the week.
Thanks.

Yup, shachris at 8 on non laining days and at 750 on laining days.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Redbull3 on December 28, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
Are they still accepting the free weekend night certificates?

Why wouldn't they?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on December 28, 2014, 02:11:17 PM
Why wouldn't they?
How would i go about booking them?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on December 28, 2014, 02:13:26 PM

How would i go about booking them?

PUTPAC
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on December 28, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
PUTPAC
No way to do it online?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on December 28, 2014, 02:31:37 PM
No way to do it online?
Not the certificates.
PUTPAC
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on December 28, 2014, 02:36:14 PM
Not the certificates.
Ok will do. Thanx
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on December 28, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
Anybody have any luck recently getting them to book for a thursday using the certs?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on December 30, 2014, 04:41:34 AM
Don't know rabbi zaretzky but I believe rabbi Baum said it's good but for me that's a reason not to eat there....
Anyone hear anything from rabbi kuber ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on December 31, 2014, 10:31:50 AM
Fyi, Great Synagogue has shachris at 8 and is about a 7 minute walk so that was closest option.

Yep, I used to daven there all the time.
Fastest minyan in town!

I would estimate it to be closer to a 3-4 minute walk though.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Rivkah on January 07, 2015, 12:57:20 PM
Hi Forum;
I was a guest at the jerusalem waldorf astoria, gifted to me by my son using vouchers and points.  I thought the place was amazing.  I was speaking to someone that suggested the following and I would like to know if it's doable;  transer spg points to amex at a greater exchange rate than 1;1.  transer amex points to hilton honors againt at a greater exchange rate.  anyone know exactly how this is done and at what exchange rate from one to the next?  thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 07, 2015, 01:00:33 PM
Hi Forum;
I was a guest at the jerusalem waldorf astoria, gifted to me by my son using vouchers and points.  I thought the place was amazing.  I was speaking to someone that suggested the following and I would like to know if it's doable;  transer spg points to amex at a greater exchange rate than 1;1.  transer amex points to hilton honors againt at a greater exchange rate.  anyone know exactly how this is done and at what exchange rate from one to the next?  thanks
Nice idea but SPG points do not transfer to Amex MR.

Amex often has offers offers where you can transfer 1:2 to Hilton rather than the normal 1:1.5.

ETA- You can transfer SPG-> Virgin Atlantic at 20k:25k.

You USED to be able to transfer Virgin Atlantic-> Hilton at 1:2.

This USED TO effectively transfer 20k SPG-> 50k Hilton.

However the transfer from Virgin Atlantic to Hilton was reduced to 1:1.5.

Using this method now will net you 20k SPG-> 37.5k Hilton.

This isnt a bad way to transfer between to competing hotel brands but I wouldnt advise using 42k+ SPG for one night in the Waldorf.

There are better ways.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 11, 2015, 04:04:08 PM
Any hope WA will open availability for sukkos?  :'(

(http://i.gyazo.com/819c37146c6f7b22568f0f593b77aafc.png)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 11, 2015, 04:06:38 PM
Any hope WA will open availability for sukkos?  :'(

(http://i.gyazo.com/819c37146c6f7b22568f0f593b77aafc.png)
Maybe they blacked it out?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 11, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
I'm sure they did.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ergel on January 11, 2015, 04:49:41 PM
I assume they learned their lesson from last year
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 11, 2015, 05:34:55 PM
Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on January 11, 2015, 05:38:03 PM
doesnt hilton have no blackouts? Participating hotels within the Hilton Worldwide portfolio and Reward types and classifications may change at any time without notice at Hilton HHonors Worldwide L.L.C.'s sole discretion.
Reward Stays are not subject to blackout dates or capacity controls, except for Points & Money Rewards™, which are subject to both at the participating hotel's and/or Hilton HHonors Worldwide L.L.C.'s discretion. All Rewards depend upon availability and some Reward Stays types may not be available on the date of Member's request. (http://hhonors3.hilton.com/en/terms/index.html#hotel_rewards)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 11, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
I assume they learned their lesson from last year
Probably. However I was able to book award stays over the phone for days where the website did not show availability.

So definitely call. Although Sukkos is likely out.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: dealvr on January 11, 2015, 07:39:44 PM
Comp 4th night with amex platinum fine hotels & resorts.
book by 3/27/15 for travel by 3/31/15
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on January 11, 2015, 08:00:03 PM
I'm sure they did.

Yes, from ppl like me who booked 12nts in 2 rooms on all HH points!! Succos has been blocked out since last Succos.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 11, 2015, 10:29:47 PM
Yes, from ppl like me who booked 12nts in 2 rooms on all HH points!! Succos has been blocked out since last Succos.
that is a lot if Hilton points! Did you transfer from mr, or just rack them up with spend?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on January 14, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
Can someone under 21 check in in the WA? (over 18)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: runnergirl on January 14, 2015, 08:11:20 PM
that is a lot if Hilton points! Did you transfer from mr, or just rack them up with spend?

MR, HH credit cards, VS and Hawaain transfers, etc
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 14, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
Anybody else gonna be there next shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on January 14, 2015, 08:23:42 PM
Anybody else gonna be there next shabbos?
Not me but if you're staying there alone can I join you for Friday morning breakfast?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on January 14, 2015, 08:52:39 PM
doesnt hilton have no blackouts? Participating hotels within the Hilton Worldwide portfolio and Reward types and classifications may change at any time without notice at Hilton HHonors Worldwide L.L.C.'s sole discretion.
Reward Stays are not subject to blackout dates or capacity controls, except for Points & Money Rewards™, which are subject to both at the participating hotel's and/or Hilton HHonors Worldwide L.L.C.'s discretion. All Rewards depend upon availability and some Reward Stays types may not be available on the date of Member's request. (http://hhonors3.hilton.com/en/terms/index.html#hotel_rewards)

Yes but they aren't letting anyone book now. Standard availability is blocked as well. So at least there's a chance itll return. But if it does and you're considering going, I'd jump on it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 14, 2015, 08:53:08 PM
Not me but if you're staying there alone can I join you for Friday morning breakfast?
Wife and 4 kids in tow....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 14, 2015, 08:54:22 PM
Yes but they aren't letting anyone book now. Standard availability is blocked as well. So at least there's a chance itll return. But if it does and you're considering going, I'd jump on it.

Odd how they're not allowing ANY reservations, points or cash.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on January 14, 2015, 10:09:02 PM

Odd how they're not allowing ANY reservations, points or cash.
simplest explanation is they got a getaway operator to host a succos program this year and they put a down payment on all the rooms (so they are sold out so no blackout application maybe)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on January 14, 2015, 11:24:48 PM
simplest explanation is they got a getaway operator to host a succos program this year and they put a down payment on all the rooms (so they are sold out so no blackout application maybe)

I had the same thought. Wondering if the hotel davka found someone to avoid all the rooms being points bookings
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on January 15, 2015, 02:20:24 AM
Happens to the HI Ashkelon, and used to happen to the LMDS as well.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 15, 2015, 09:07:50 AM
That it gets blacked out or that an operator books up the whole hotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 15, 2015, 09:10:40 AM
Do they give out cots here? When I booked they said max 2 per room
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on January 15, 2015, 10:28:02 AM
I had the same thought. Wondering if the hotel davka found someone to avoid all the rooms being points bookings
That's a stretch.... Business wise it makes more sense. They now know they are sold out for succos even it its for a less money.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on January 15, 2015, 11:15:56 AM
That's a stretch.... Business wise it makes more sense. They now know they are sold out for succos even it its for a less money.

And hotels are usually reimbursed by the chain for mileage redemptions close to the revenue rate if the hotel is completely sold out. Chains reimburse much less when the hotel has vacancies.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on January 15, 2015, 02:36:49 PM
Anything extra wen booking with hilton gold?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 15, 2015, 05:08:38 PM
Anything extra wen booking with hilton gold?
Officially breakfast free, but I think its free for everyone anyhow.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on January 15, 2015, 05:43:51 PM
Officially breakfast free, but I think its free for everyone anyhow.

Will find out Sunday..... ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 15, 2015, 05:46:14 PM

Will find out Sunday..... ;D
Keep us posted!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on January 18, 2015, 02:04:33 PM
Anything extra wen booking with hilton gold?
Officially breakfast free, but I think its free for everyone anyhow.

got an upgrade to junior suite  ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 18, 2015, 02:11:58 PM
got an upgrade to junior suite  ;D
Nice! How you work that out?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2015, 02:19:26 PM
got an upgrade to junior suite  ;D
Wow!!! How?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on January 18, 2015, 03:44:12 PM

got an upgrade to junior suite  ;D
Nice!  pics?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on January 18, 2015, 04:00:04 PM
 ;D
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on January 18, 2015, 04:03:34 PM
Enjoy! 
how was breakfast?  or did you just check in...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on January 18, 2015, 04:45:41 PM
Anything extra wen booking with hilton gold?
You also get drink coupons.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2015, 08:18:53 PM
I am trying to score an upgrade to a suite at the Waldorf, there are 2 ways I can try to go about doing that.

A. Pay for an upgrade before I go to a higher than base level room, then upon arrival try to leverage my gold status for a suite upgrade.

B. Just rely on status alone to hopefully get an upgrade.

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 18, 2015, 08:33:11 PM
I am trying to score an upgrade to a suite at the Waldorf, there are 2 ways I can try to go about doing that.

A. Pay for an upgrade before I go to a higher than base level room, then upon arrival try to leverage my gold status for a suite upgrade.

B. Just rely on status alone to hopefully get an upgrade.

Any suggestions?

I have gold status and was upgraded but not to a suite. I think it depends on how full the hotel is. Hotel was pretty full when I went at the end of the year. Think the staff tries to upgrade when possible.

Send an email requesting the upgrade for a special occasion and youll likely be able to secure the upgrade for free before you arrive.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 18, 2015, 08:37:10 PM
I have gold status and was upgraded but not to a suite. I think it depends on how full the hotel is. Hotel was pretty full when I went at the end of the year. Think the staff tries to upgrade when possible.

Send an email requesting the upgrade for a special occasion and you'll likely be able to secure the upgrade for free before you arrive.
Thanks for the suggestion, I was wondering if the fact that I would already have a more expensive room, make it easier for them to upgrade me, or just better to ask?

And when you say email, do you mean the hotel, or Hilton?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 18, 2015, 08:45:46 PM
Thanks for the suggestion, I was wondering if the fact that I would already have a more expensive room, make it easier for them to upgrade me, or just better to ask?

And when you say email, do you mean the hotel, or Hilton?

Hotel directly, not Hilton. Not sure if having a more expensive room will help. Service at hotel is incredible and no request of ours was denied. Really went above and beyond and I'd think an email to them would certainly help your cause (assuming there's availability for a suite).
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on January 19, 2015, 10:51:49 PM
Does anyone know if the pool/spa is open yet?
The website says 2015.

ETA. I just called,not opening till September.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 11:46:29 AM
I emailed them, the response was,

Dear ...,
 
Thank you for contacting the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem.
 
On the .... we are in high occupancy in the hotel. if rooms are available we will do our best.
 
Best Regards,



I'm wondering if it would help to put myself on paid standby? Does anyone have experience with the paid standby?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on January 22, 2015, 12:34:29 PM
I got amazing rates for the inbal executive rooms I also got a good rate at the Waldorf although a bit more expensive is there anyone that stayed in both and can tell me the pros and cons
Would really appreciate it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on January 22, 2015, 12:35:34 PM
I got amazing rates for the inbal executive rooms I also got a good rate at the Waldorf although a bit more expensive is there anyone that stayed in both and can tell me the pros and cons
Would really appreciate it
Maybe if you tell us how you got good rates.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on January 22, 2015, 12:37:00 PM
Also if anyone wants great rates in the Waldorf pm me I can hook you up not an agent just know a guy
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on January 22, 2015, 12:38:47 PM
Also if anyone wants great rates in the Waldorf pm me I can hook you up not an agent just know a guy

What do u consider good rates?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on January 22, 2015, 12:39:27 PM
Under 400
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on January 22, 2015, 12:43:05 PM
Unless I'm mistaken that's considered a great rate
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 22, 2015, 02:07:59 PM
I have to say, this place is pretty nice
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 02:15:01 PM
I have to say, this place is pretty nice
What type of room did you stay in?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 22, 2015, 03:12:12 PM
What type of room did you stay in?
Booked standard points/cert rooms. Asked for connecting + upgrade.

Got connecting rooms, one with balcony on 8th floor. They say it's a 2 category upgrade.

I checked in not long ago.

They just delivered chocolate milk and cookies for my kids.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: NYHeel on January 22, 2015, 03:23:45 PM
This maybe a little off topic but are there any chain hotels with points/miles programs left in Northern Israel. Looking for a 2 night stay and would like to use Chase/Amex/SPG miles if possible.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 03:27:49 PM
Booked standard points/cert rooms. Asked for connecting + upgrade.

Got connecting rooms, one with balcony on 8th floor. They say it's a 2 category upgrade.

I checked in not long ago.

They just delivered chocolate milk and cookies for my kids.
Wow! So the room you are currently in is the one right under a suite, correct?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 22, 2015, 04:16:56 PM
Wow! So the room you are currently in is the one right under a suite, correct?
Seems it's under a junior suite. Checkin told me they would give me a jr suite but there are none available with a connecting room. Gold member.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 22, 2015, 04:20:22 PM
Another data point- wiki says self park $12 and valet $24.

My booking confirmation said self park $12 but valet $20.

When I checked in and asked about self parking I was told that valet is the same price as self-park. Complimentary.

I took the valet.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on January 22, 2015, 04:48:13 PM
Under 400
Pm me I can Prob get that or better.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 04:52:08 PM
Seems it's under a junior suite. Checkin told me they would give me a jr suite but there are none available with a connecting room. Gold member.
So all you did was ask for a connecting room at check in?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 22, 2015, 04:56:43 PM
So all you did was ask for a connecting room at check in?
I got an email about 2 weeks before my reservation date and replied to my "personal concierge" that I need connecting rooms and a crib. She was adamant about knowing what time id be checking in in order to make my stay a more pleasurable and memorable one.

I also asked about an upgrade (as a gold member) and was told that I would recieve one based on availability.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 05:07:49 PM
I got an email about 2 weeks before my reservation date and replied to my "personal concierge" that I need connecting rooms and a crib. She was adamant about knowing what time id be checking in in order to make my stay a more pleasurable and memorable one.

I also asked about an upgrade (as a gold member) and was told that I would recieve one based on availability.
I got a similar email, though I tried calling and couldn't get through. Did you email the "concierge"? Or call?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 22, 2015, 05:11:33 PM
I got a similar email, though I tried calling and couldn't get through. Did you email the "concierge"? Or call?
I emailed Ashley, my personal concierge. Her email address was in the welcome email ~2 weeks before checkin date.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 05:14:04 PM
I emailed Ashley, my personal concierge. Her email address was in the welcome email ~2 weeks before checkin date.
Thanks. I have 3 rooms I wonder if they can connect all of them ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 22, 2015, 05:29:57 PM
Thanks. I have 3 rooms I wonder if they can connect all of them ;D

Points or paid?? If it's points that's really impressive!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 05:40:51 PM
Points or paid?? If it's points that's really impressive!
Of course points ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 22, 2015, 05:47:22 PM
Of course points ;D

Feel free to share how you racked up so many  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 05:48:30 PM
Feel free to share how you racked up so many  ;D ;D
Actually weekend certs to be exact.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 22, 2015, 05:49:04 PM
Feel free to share how you racked up so many  ;D ;D
Really not that difficult.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 22, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
Really not that difficult.

Took me awhile to accumulate the 320,000 needed for 5 nights. Guess Its not that impressive after all.  :-[
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 22, 2015, 05:54:28 PM
Took me awhile to accumulate the 320,000 needed for 5 nights. Guess Its not that impressive after all.  :-[
Doesn't make it not impressive!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 22, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
Doesn't make it not impressive!

Haha, makes me feel a lot better, thanks. Enjoy your stay! We had an awesome time there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mocha on January 22, 2015, 06:32:52 PM
Took me awhile to accumulate the 320,000 needed for 5 nights. Guess Its not that impressive after all.  :-[
If that was UR you would've had $5,120 in UR. Was your cash rate over $1,024/nt?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 22, 2015, 06:37:45 PM
If that was UR you would've had $5,120 in UR. Was your cash rate over $1,024/nt?

Can't transfer UR to Hilton. They were straight up Hilton points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 22, 2015, 08:17:20 PM
If that was UR you would've had $5,120 in UR. Was your cash rate over $1,024/nt?

Just realized you wrote cash rate, sorry bout that. They were Hilton points so value was a whole lot less.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 22, 2015, 08:21:08 PM
Some Hilton CC give 3 points per dollar.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on January 22, 2015, 08:32:48 PM
Pm me I can Prob get that or better.

I've gotten nights for 350
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on January 22, 2015, 08:39:07 PM
Some Hilton CC give 3 points per dollar.
You mean 6x
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 22, 2015, 08:44:19 PM
You mean 6x

Thats for gas, but im pretty sure the others are 3x
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 22, 2015, 09:10:08 PM
Thats for gas, but im pretty sure the others are 3x

 -1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 22, 2015, 09:30:38 PM
Does target qualify as a 6x?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on January 22, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
-1

What's your rate at the WA based on MS cost? +/- $150?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 22, 2015, 10:10:55 PM
What's your rate at the WA based on MS cost? +/- $150?

Give or take.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 22, 2015, 11:45:42 PM
-1
@AJK
I dont know, but I spent 10k on regular purchases to get the free weekend and I got 30k points. I called and they seemed to think it was 3x. Is this happening to others ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 23, 2015, 12:17:06 AM
@AJK
I dont know, but I spent 10k on regular purchases to get the free weekend and I got 30k points. I called and they seemed to think it was 3x. Is this happening to others ?
I think grocery is more
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 23, 2015, 12:19:16 AM
I think grocery is more

Does target count as grocery?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 23, 2015, 12:20:45 AM
Does target count as grocery?
some do, but most don't I think.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 23, 2015, 12:27:21 AM
It was not grocery, it was regular purchases online.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 23, 2015, 12:36:41 AM
some do, but most don't I think.

Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on January 23, 2015, 02:15:03 AM

@AJK
I dont know, but I spent 10k on regular purchases to get the free weekend and I got 30k points. I called and they seemed to think it was 3x. Is this happening to others ?
If you spent 10K for the free night cert than you have the citi hhonors reserve,which earns 3X on everything.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 23, 2015, 05:54:19 AM
If you spent 10K for the free night cert than you have the citi hhonors reserve,which earns 3X on everything.

You mean free "weekend" not weekday.

There you go, so i guess that makes it easier to arrive to 350k like the poster above...

How much is a free weekday award night, 80k ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 23, 2015, 05:58:12 AM
You mean free "weekend" not weekday.

There you go, i have that one. so i guess that makes it easier to arrive to 350k like the poster above...

How much is a free weekday award night, 80k ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 23, 2015, 07:54:05 AM
You mean free "weekend" not weekday.

There you go, so i guess that makes it easier to arrive to 350k like the poster above...

How much is a free weekday award night, 80k ?

Yup, 80k a night and fifth night free.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on January 23, 2015, 11:33:59 AM

You mean free "weekend" not weekday.

There you go, so i guess that makes it easier to arrive to 350k like the poster above...

How much is a free weekday award night, 80k ?
Do you know of any free weekday nights that can be earned with this or any other hhonors cc?
I don't,not sure why my post wasn't clear enough.

Btw these free nights used to work on weeknights as well,but that's over...at least ime.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 05:47:27 AM
i just spent shabbos there, and while the hotel is very nice, the service could definitely use some tweaking to get into the league of real service oriented hotels. with that said, the service is still pretty good
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on January 25, 2015, 06:43:33 AM
i just spent shabbos there, and while the hotel is very nice, the service could definitely use some tweaking to get into the league of real service oriented hotels. with that said, the service is still pretty good
So would you recommend staying there or was the service a real problem?
How were tge rooms in general ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 07:32:44 AM
So would you recommend staying there or was the service a real problem?
How were tge rooms in general ?
i would recommend. we had as suite so cant comment on the reg rooms
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on January 25, 2015, 07:34:19 AM
i would recommend. we had as suite so cant comment on the reg rooms
they upgraded you ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 07:35:44 AM
they upgraded you ?
yes
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on January 25, 2015, 07:36:55 AM
yes
status?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 07:39:22 AM
status?
gold
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yare on January 25, 2015, 08:44:44 AM
gold
u + all the kids in one suite?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 08:46:02 AM
u + all the kids in one suite?
i only brought my baby
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Bp on January 25, 2015, 10:45:29 AM
i just spent shabbos there
And you didn't say hello?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on January 25, 2015, 10:50:00 AM
And you didn't say hello?
you were also there this past shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 11:54:05 AM
you were also there this past shabbos?
it seemed like half flatbush and 5 towns were there
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
And you didn't say hello?
i didnt see you!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on January 25, 2015, 03:18:34 PM
Is it possible to book out of two separate accounts and still take advantage of the 5th night free promotion? I.e. Me and my wife having separate accounts but we don't have a total of 320k in a single account.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on January 25, 2015, 03:21:35 PM
Is it possible to book out of two separate accounts and still take advantage of the 5th night free promotion? I.e. Me and my wife having separate accounts but we don't have a total of 320k in a single account.

Don't think so, but you can transfer for a fee
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on January 25, 2015, 03:57:07 PM
i just spent shabbos there, and while the hotel is very nice, the service could definitely use some tweaking to get into the league of real service oriented hotels. with that said, the service is still pretty good
How would you compare it to the Citadel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 25, 2015, 04:29:05 PM
i never stayed at the citadel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 25, 2015, 04:33:39 PM
gold
How do you gain such status?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: kangarruu on January 25, 2015, 04:36:31 PM
How do you gain such status?

Citi Hilton Reserve and some others give it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 25, 2015, 04:39:24 PM
Citi Hilton Reserve and some others give it.
Oh ok great. I have that card! So does anyone with that card get a upgrade to suite if they have availability?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 25, 2015, 04:44:01 PM
No.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 25, 2015, 04:47:12 PM
No.

Some have reported getting a suite if available by just being gold.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 25, 2015, 04:49:35 PM
Some have reported getting a suite if available by just being gold.

Correct, but a suite is not automatically given to a Gold simply because it's "available."
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 25, 2015, 05:59:09 PM
Correct, but a suite is not automatically given to a Gold simply because it's "available."
Come again ?
What am I missing ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 25, 2015, 06:04:46 PM
Availability doesn't equal upgrade. Not rocket science.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on January 25, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
whats the cheapest rate anyone has ever seen for this hotel to date?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 25, 2015, 06:21:01 PM
Availability doesn't equal upgrade. Not rocket science.
I can understand that, but you had said "no" to gold getting it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 25, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
I can understand that, but you had said "no" to gold getting it.

No, I said no to:

So does anyone with that card get a upgrade to suite if they have availability?

And the answer is still no. Availability does not automatically equal an upgrade.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 25, 2015, 06:52:01 PM
No, I said no to:

And the answer is still no. Availability does not automatically equal an upgrade.
Doesn't the card give you gold ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on January 25, 2015, 11:15:59 PM
Oiy!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yosef_S on January 25, 2015, 11:48:17 PM
Oiy!

+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: momo on January 26, 2015, 12:03:11 AM
Doesn't the card give you gold ?
One last time. Yes the card gives you gold status. No Gold status does not mean you will get a suite, if one is available. The hotel may be kind, and give it to you, but you are not entitled to a suite.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2015, 12:07:28 AM
One last time. Yes the card gives you gold status. No Gold status does not mean you will get a suite, if one is available. The hotel may be kind, and give it to you, but you are not entitled to a suite.
But the CC gives Gold status. What am I missing?

 ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 26, 2015, 05:00:32 AM
Gold member. Asked the latest I can checkout since my flight was at night. I was told 4:00 but to just let them know if I need later.

At 4, I let them know im not ready yet. No problem. Finally checked out around 5:00.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 26, 2015, 06:34:26 AM
Oh ok great. I have that card! So does anyone with that card get a upgrade to suite if they have availability?
they told me that the reason they upgraded me was because i was gold and it was the first time staying there. fwiw

i found it strange though since the hotel was fully booked. no rooms were for sale from 5 days before up until shabbos started
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 26, 2015, 07:00:08 AM
they told me that the reason they upgraded me was because i was gold and it was the first time staying there. fwiw

i found it strange though since the hotel was fully booked. no rooms were for sale from 5 days before up until shabbos started
How was the food there?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 26, 2015, 08:16:12 AM
How was the food there?
couldnt tell you
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on January 26, 2015, 08:51:59 AM


i was gold and it was the first time staying there.
for me as well, though they made it seem since was booked with points (weekend certs) won't upgrade me.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chuchem on January 26, 2015, 08:56:12 AM
they told me that the reason they upgraded me was because i was gold and it was the first time staying there. fwiw

i found it strange though since the hotel was fully booked. no rooms were for sale from 5 days before up until shabbos started

They are quite nice, also received upgrade

Them being full is a good reason to upgrade. They oversell the regular rooms and then upgrade gold members to suites. Like airlines. They rather have the hotel full, even if it means upgrading rooms to suites or economy pax to business
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 26, 2015, 09:07:50 AM
they told me that the reason they upgraded me was because i was gold and it was the first time staying there. fwiw

i found it strange though since the hotel was fully booked. no rooms were for sale from 5 days before up until shabbos started

Where are the Oyi's and +1 now ?
see above
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: HolyNyc on January 26, 2015, 09:10:16 AM
oiy v'avoiy
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ergel on January 26, 2015, 09:11:00 AM
Where are the Oyi's and +1 now ?
see above
Is it really that hard to understand. They will upgrade a gold member over someone with no status. But being gold does not necessarily mean you will be upgraded
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on January 26, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
Where are the Oyi's and +1 now ?
see above
You really dont get it do you?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 26, 2015, 09:12:17 AM
They are quite nice, also received upgrade

Them being full is a good reason to upgrade. They oversell the regular rooms and then upgrade gold members to suites. Like airlines. They rather have the hotel full, even if it means upgrading rooms to suites or economy pax to business
right, but suites werent available for sale either...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on January 26, 2015, 09:14:32 AM
oiy v'avoiy

Wow. I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like this.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 26, 2015, 09:17:36 AM
for me as well, though they made it seem since was booked with points (weekend certs) won't upgrade me.
i also used weekend cert
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: myb821 on January 26, 2015, 09:25:53 AM
right, but suites werent available for sale either...
Could be they oversold Reg rooms by the amount of suites so if they sold anything else at all they would not have enough rooms for everyone.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rivki19 on January 26, 2015, 09:38:58 AM
I just read the first 10 pages of this thread but its so old... not sure if its even valid.
what is the best cost in mileage from which cc to stay here?
I dont think it will be doable cause im going for 17 days but i really want a israel hotel using my miles!!!!
any help would be appreciated
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on January 26, 2015, 09:42:55 AM
I feel stupider for reading this.
I'm gonna have another cup of black sludge.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on January 26, 2015, 09:51:42 AM
I just read the first 10 pages of this thread but its so old... not sure if its even valid.
what is the best cost in mileage from which cc to stay here?
I dont think it will be doable cause im going for 17 days but i really want a israel hotel using my miles!!!!
any help would be appreciated

Israel with miles is very hard. Other than the Sheraton Tel Aviv (SPG) & sometimes the Waldorf in the summer (Hilton points, alot)  its just not worth it using miles. There is also the new Ritz Carlton Hertzeliya bookable with Marriott points but all redemptions practically suck except the Sheraton Tel Aviv
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2015, 09:58:39 AM
Where are the Oyi's and +1 now ?
see above
Oiy!
Here....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on January 26, 2015, 10:11:39 AM
Israel with miles is very hard. Other than the Sheraton Tel Aviv (SPG) & sometimes the Waldorf in the summer (Hilton points, alot)  its just not worth it using miles. There is also the new Ritz Carlton Hertzeliya bookable with Marriott points but all redemptions practically suck except the Sheraton Tel Aviv
-1
HI in Ashkelon is a great value if you want to go there.
Carlson in TLV w/ second night free is also a very good value.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rivki19 on January 26, 2015, 10:13:55 AM
SPG in Tel aviv wants $1400 a night  >:(
Whats HI? HILTON?
-1

[/qHI in Ashkelon is a great value if you want to go there.
Carlson in TLV w/ second night free is also a very good value.uote]
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on January 26, 2015, 10:54:31 AM
SPG in Tel aviv wants $1400 a night  >:(
Whats HI? HILTON?
-1

[/qHI in Ashkelon is a great value if you want to go there.
Carlson in TLV w/ second night free is also a very good value.uote]
Holiday Inn.
10k per night, right off the beach, quiet part of town.
Nothing fancy, but good value in Israel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 26, 2015, 11:39:09 AM
Anybody have issues checking in here without the person whom the room is booked under? ( Adding the person that wants to check in as a secondary of course)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on January 26, 2015, 01:06:47 PM
Anybody have issues checking in here without the person whom the room is booked under? ( Adding the person that wants to check in as a secondary of course)
Never ha issue.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 26, 2015, 01:48:19 PM
Never ha issue.
me neither, but when I checked into the prima Palace, they were very strict in matching up the reservations to the passports and the visas.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 26, 2015, 02:00:49 PM
me neither, but when I checked into the prima Palace, they were very strict in matching up the reservations to the passports and the visas.
I had that once in a Marriot in Prague. It was my brothers reservation and i was added on and they said that at some point during my stay they will need his passport. So I said hes coming soon and then just never checked out of the hotel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on January 26, 2015, 10:07:10 PM
any such strict stories in italy? im a add on to a name there next month
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yls2011 on January 27, 2015, 06:32:44 PM
any such strict stories in italy? im a add on to a name there next month
At HI in Rome they checked our passports.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on January 27, 2015, 06:56:43 PM
why would they check your passport? Weren't you gold?  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 27, 2015, 07:44:19 PM
why would they check your passport? Weren't you gold?  ;D 8)
does gold make a difference as to whether they check the passports?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yosef_S on January 27, 2015, 07:44:50 PM
why would they check your passport? Weren't you gold?  ;D 8)

Noooo! Not this again!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on January 27, 2015, 07:48:36 PM
does gold make a difference as to whether they check the passports?
I ounce stayed at a hotel with gold status and they didn't check my passport.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on January 27, 2015, 08:01:48 PM
I ounce stayed at a hotel with gold status and they didn't check my passport.

Oy yoi yoi
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on January 27, 2015, 09:42:27 PM
I ounce stayed at a hotel with gold status and they didn't check my passport.

how many ounces of gold did you bring?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on January 27, 2015, 09:44:53 PM
I ounce stayed at a hotel with gold status and they didn't check my passport.
How then did they know it was a gold passport?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on January 27, 2015, 10:13:11 PM
Might have been asked befor but didn't get a clear answer I am booked as the 2nd person in the room and I want to know if I will have a problem someone booked it for me with his weekend certificates he is main And he is not coming
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yosef_S on January 27, 2015, 11:00:59 PM
How then did they know it was a gold passport?

Isn't Gold Passport Hyatt? And I thought Waldorf is Hilton...

(I'm kidding!!!)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on January 28, 2015, 10:24:20 AM
Might have been asked befor but didn't get a clear answer I am booked as the 2nd person in the room and I want to know if I will have a problem someone booked it for me with his weekend certificates he is main And he is not coming

No issue at all IME (2 weeks ago)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on January 28, 2015, 10:31:35 AM
No issue at all IME (2 weeks ago)

1. How about combining this with a reservation that I made (i.e., combining my certificates with someone else's?)
2. If you cancel a free night cert do you get points back or the cert back? My 3 night stay confirmation at the WA (2 from certificate 1 from points) says I paid 240k points... Can I cancel and then get the 5th night free w a 4 night redemption?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 30, 2015, 05:57:08 AM
I now see why people spent the time racking up the points necessary for succos:) This place is gorgeous!!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 30, 2015, 06:23:55 AM
I now see why people spent the time racking up the points necessary for succos:) This place is gorgeous!!!
Enjoy Shabbat!
Looking forward to hearing your impressions
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 30, 2015, 06:46:23 AM

I now see why people spent the time racking up the points necessary for succos:) This place is gorgeous!!!
When you staying there till?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 30, 2015, 07:03:38 AM
When you staying there till?
Sunday morning
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 31, 2015, 01:33:36 PM
Sunday morning
How was shabbos there?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 31, 2015, 02:10:33 PM
How was shabbos there?
fabulous! To quote a a chassidiah yid who was there, it was a "tam deganeden"
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on January 31, 2015, 03:19:38 PM
fabulous! To quote a a chassidiah yid who was there, it was a "tam deganeden"
referring to the food, i assume...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on January 31, 2015, 05:09:23 PM
fabulous! To quote a a chassidiah yid who was there, it was a "tam deganeden"
It's that's really all I have to look forward to then I'm becoming a Catholic
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 31, 2015, 05:29:43 PM
referring to the food, i assume...
I think he was referring to the experience as a whole.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on January 31, 2015, 05:34:15 PM

I think he was referring to the experience as a whole.
Correct!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 31, 2015, 05:37:00 PM
It's that's really all I have to look forward to then I'm becoming a Catholic
;D clearly we have no concept of olam haba, because if we did a lot more things would be a lot less important...

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on January 31, 2015, 08:54:36 PM
It's that's really all I have to look forward to then I'm becoming a Catholic

All the options and you choose Catholic?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ericATL on February 01, 2015, 09:17:46 AM
So can someone who has stayed here and eaten shabbos dinner/lunch detail how much it costs.  I am staying at the WA with three little kids and I saw a mention of a "family plan".  Otherwise it seems pretty silly to spend $100+/pp for two adult and three little kids who barely eat for each meal on shabbos.  Any other suggestions are appreciated too.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on February 01, 2015, 09:08:09 PM
Did I miss something?
I just wanted to book the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem for a couple of nights, and the price is 133k hh points a night, compared to 80k I paid recently!
Have I done something wrong? Or are these regular winter rates?
Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 01, 2015, 09:24:29 PM
Did I miss something?
I just wanted to book the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem for a couple of nights, and the price is 133k hh points a night, compared to 80k I paid recently!
Have I done something wrong? Or are these regular winter rates?
Thanks
Premium room pricing. When standard is not available.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 01, 2015, 09:28:06 PM
Did I miss something?
I just wanted to book the Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem for a couple of nights, and the price is 133k hh points a night, compared to 80k I paid recently!
Have I done something wrong? Or are these regular winter rates?
Thanks

Premium room pricing. When standard is not available.
Correct that the 133k is premium.

However, when I booked this hotel, it was only showing premium rooms online but was still able to book over the phone.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on February 01, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Correct that the 133k is premium.

However, when I booked this hotel, it was only showing premium rooms online but was still able to book over the phone.

Did you scrol down? Occasionally standard rooms are one of the later rooms on the website.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on February 01, 2015, 11:16:55 PM
Did you scrol down? Occasionally standard rooms are one of the later rooms on the website.
I scrolled down, and searched all 3 nights individually and still the lowest price was 133k
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 02, 2015, 12:35:57 AM
I scrolled down, and searched all 3 nights individually and still the lowest price was 133k
are you looking for Pesach by any chance :) ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on February 02, 2015, 05:06:49 AM

I scrolled down, and searched all 3 nights individually and still the lowest price was 133k
If your looking for around now, the beginning of February then the reason is Bec Bobov is making a big event in Jerusalem and the booked out basically every room available in many hotels.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on February 05, 2015, 12:26:39 AM
Is it possible to use the sign up nights for Thursday night in the Waldorf?
Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on February 05, 2015, 12:29:45 AM
Officially not
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smart brit on February 05, 2015, 12:33:21 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 05, 2015, 04:16:18 AM
Officially not
But

Is it possible?

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on February 05, 2015, 08:10:05 AM
But
As said earlier in thread doesn't seem to work to get them to let you book on another day besides a weekend.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on February 05, 2015, 08:11:58 AM
Is it possible to use the sign up nights for Thursday night in the Waldorf?
Thanks
For the purpose of Certificate redemption, a weekend night is defined as a Friday, Saturday or Sunday night, unless specified otherwise on the Reward Certificate.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2015, 05:28:02 PM
Current status of mehadrin food at breakfast and for shabbos here?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 05, 2015, 05:44:14 PM
Current status of mehadrin food at breakfast and for shabbos here?
Same as previous status.
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on February 05, 2015, 06:08:33 PM
Current status of mehadrin food at breakfast and for shabbos here?
I asked the the Mashgiach there and he said they use כל מיני בדצים... And that it's better then רבנות מהדרין.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 05, 2015, 06:41:01 PM
I asked the the Mashgiach there and he said they use כל מיני בדצים... And that it's better then רבנות מהדרין.
they use rabbanut mehadrin chicken on occasion
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 05, 2015, 06:41:40 PM
Current status of mehadrin food at breakfast and for shabbos here?

just curious, are you going to be in EY only Shabbos March 7 or the following Shabbos as well ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
they use rabbanut mehadrin chicken on occasion
But the mashgiach will tell you what it is that week?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on February 05, 2015, 06:43:08 PM

they use rabbanut mehadrin chicken on occasion
Oooops! Sorry forgot to mention I only asked him abt the dairy.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 05, 2015, 06:51:35 PM
But the mashgiach will tell you what it is that week?
no idea
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 05, 2015, 07:48:29 PM
But the mashgiach will tell you what it is that week?
basically they don't want the food to officially be any better than mehadrin, because that is not the crowd that they are looking to attract.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 05, 2015, 07:52:59 PM
basically they don't want the food to officially be any better than mehadrin, because that is not the crowd that they are looking to attract.
well, that backfired miserably the minute they started taking points
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on February 05, 2015, 08:30:38 PM
they use rabbanut mehadrin chicken on occasion
and when its not rabbanut mehadrin what is it?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 05, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
well, that backfired miserably the minute they started taking points
Exactly what I was wondering...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 05, 2015, 11:13:34 PM
I asked the the Mashgiach there and he said they use כל מיני בדצים... And that it's better then רבנות מהדרין.

Meanwhile the hechsher is less than Rabbamut Mehadrin.

basically they don't want the food to officially be any better than mehadrin, because that is not the crowd that they are looking to attract.

What's better than Mehadrin food?
Is there a new level I wasn't informed about?
Super Duper Mehadrin?
Does the chicken shave its head?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Chapshnell on February 05, 2015, 11:30:31 PM
Anyone gonna be here this Shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 06, 2015, 12:08:44 AM
Anyone gonna be here this Shabbos?
Did you get a room via award for THIS shabbos ?
Or are you paying an Amidei Zion rate ....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Hatastah on February 06, 2015, 12:11:40 AM
Any way to book with UR points? Meaning anything that UR will transfer to?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 06, 2015, 01:07:56 AM
What's better than Mehadrin food?
Is there a new level I wasn't informed about?
Super Duper Mehadrin?
Does the chicken shave its head?
i believe he meant the level of rabanut mehadrin
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 06, 2015, 01:25:46 AM
Super Duper Mehadrin?
Does the chicken shave its head?
Yes. But not its beard.  ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 06, 2015, 03:10:35 AM
Meanwhile the hechsher is less than Rabbamut Mehadrin.

What's better than Mehadrin food?
Is there a new level I wasn't informed about?
Super Duper Mehadrin?
Does the chicken shave its head?
Rabbanut Mehadrin is one of the bottom hechserim
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 06, 2015, 05:27:42 AM
I heard that rabbi kuber spoke to the mashgichim and had a few issues ..
One of then was the fact that
They also serve non mehadrin meat when they have a catered event- and use the same kitchen/utensils.
They do claim try kasher everything afterwards- but he says not so practical
(Or so I heard...
I also never heard any rav actually eat or give the ok to eat there as of now...
I know of one rav who is a relative of the owners that only eats dairy there...)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 06, 2015, 06:44:03 AM
I heard that rabbi kuber spoke to the mashgichim and had a few issues ..
One of then was the fact that
They also serve non mehadrin meat when they have a catered event- and use the same kitchen/utensils.
They do claim try kasher everything afterwards- but he says not so practical
(Or so I heard...
I also never heard any rav actually eat or give the ok to eat there as of now...
I know of one rav who is a relative of the owners that only eats dairy there...)
The heter to eat there for those that don't usually rely on that hecher is that "everybody else eats there".
Either they think hell isn't big enough for everyone or they are fine going as long as they have good company
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 06, 2015, 06:52:02 AM
The heter to eat there for those that don't usually rely on that hecher is that "everybody else eats there".
Either they think hell isn't big enough for everyone or they are fine going as long as they have good company
So everyone who eats at the Waldorf is going to hell now?

I didn't realize that it was treif.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 06, 2015, 06:52:42 AM
So everyone who eats at the Waldorf is going to hell now?

I didn't realize that it was treif.
Absolutely not. Its far from it.  Please re-read
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 06, 2015, 07:08:47 AM
Absolutely not. Its far from it.  Please re-read

Just re-read.

I deduce that
1) The reason people eat there is because everyone else does.
2) This is faulty reasoning because they are all going to hell.
3) Hell used to have some sort of space restrictions but the recent multimillion dollar renovation has alleviated this issue.
4) Apparently hells renovations were not well publicized.
5) Hell will be getting more business from the Waldorf than a good groupon.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 06, 2015, 07:17:28 AM
Just re-read.

I deduce that
1) The reason people eat there is because everyone else does.
2) This is faulty reasoning because they are all going to hell.
3) Hell used to have some sort of space restrictions but the recent multimillion dollar renovation has alleviated this issue.
4) Apparently hells renovations were not well publicized.
5) Hell will be getting more business from the Waldorf than a groupon.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 06, 2015, 07:18:23 AM
Any way to book with UR points? Meaning anything that UR will transfer to?
UR>Amtrak>HH.
1:2. You need the Amtrak CC or Amtrack status

UR>VS>HH
2:3.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 06, 2015, 07:18:27 AM
There is nothing wrong with eating there.  There is something wrong with pretending it's not rabbanut
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 06, 2015, 07:23:01 AM
There is nothing wrong with eating there.  There is something wrong with pretending it's not rabbanut
Not what you said the first time.

Btw- you got the stroller, right? Haven't heard from you since I left it. Hope it wasn't too beat up.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 06, 2015, 07:34:37 AM


Not what you said the first time.

Precisely what I said,  though you may have understood otherwise
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rivki19 on February 06, 2015, 08:28:22 AM
how many points for a night...figure i can transfer ur
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on February 06, 2015, 08:29:56 AM
how many points for a night...figure i can transfer ur
80k
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 06, 2015, 08:31:48 AM
What's with Hilton vouchers? I know people have been booking with those. What are they?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AharonInIsrael on February 06, 2015, 09:16:52 AM
What's with Hilton vouchers? I know people have been booking with those. What are they?
Certificate for a free weekend night. You get two for meeting the minimum spend on the Citi Hilton card
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 06, 2015, 09:21:54 AM
Certificate for a free weekend night. You get two for meeting the minimum spend on the Citi Hilton Reserve card
FTFY
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AharonInIsrael on February 06, 2015, 09:25:42 AM
FTFY
Thanks. What does the non-Reserve card give?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 06, 2015, 09:45:04 AM
Thanks. What does the non-Reserve card give?
Theres another one that has a 40k bonus or something along those lines.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 06, 2015, 11:36:13 AM
Certificate for a free weekend night. You get two for meeting the minimum spend on the Citi Hilton card
I know that one, im pretty sure there is another type though maybe similar to a gift card?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 06, 2015, 12:20:09 PM
Some here were asking what's considered cheap for Waldorf.
Well, I've been hearing that people are paying low $300's for standard rooms, without a group.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on February 06, 2015, 12:28:54 PM
Theres another one that has a 40k bonus or something along those lines.
The amex surpass gives now 80k
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2015, 12:38:53 PM
Well, I've been hearing that people are paying low $300's for standard rooms, without a group.
Booked from where?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 06, 2015, 01:45:29 PM
Some here were asking what's considered cheap for Waldorf.
Well, I've been hearing that people are paying low $300's for standard rooms, without a group.
+1 I know someone that did that, and I was wondering how
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2015, 01:48:22 PM
If you know someone that did that why are you asking here instead of asking him?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 06, 2015, 02:15:45 PM
If you know someone that did that why are you asking here instead of asking him?
Of course I asked him, he has no idea. He bought the nights from someone in Lakewood for $300 a night.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2015, 02:18:04 PM
Nu, so call that person.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on February 06, 2015, 02:32:47 PM
Of course I asked him, he has no idea. He bought the nights from someone in Lakewood for $300 a night.
From someone in Lakewood ....Hmmmm ever heard of Hilton Cert?  ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 06, 2015, 02:39:43 PM
Nu, so call that person.
I dont remember his name, I probably could get it. My friend told me this guy booked using "Hilton Vouchers"
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on February 06, 2015, 02:57:02 PM
I dont remember his name, I probably could get it. My friend told me this guy booked using "Hilton Vouchers"
was it for a weekend?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 06, 2015, 03:04:36 PM
I dont remember his name, I probably could get it. My friend told me this guy booked using "Hilton Vouchers"
I think we can close the file on this one.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on February 06, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
I dont remember his name, I probably could get it. My friend told me this guy booked using "Hilton Vouchers"

lol
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 06, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
was it for a weekend?
that's the weird part, it was for 9 days straight, only 3 of them would classify as a weekday.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on February 06, 2015, 04:22:45 PM
I can sometimes get around $325-$350 a night but min 5 night stay. From a diamond account.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 08, 2015, 02:25:43 AM
I can sometimes get around $325-$350 a night but min 5 night stay. From a diamond account.

That sounds pretty sweet.
Thanks for backing me up :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 08, 2015, 08:48:57 AM
I can sometimes get around $325-$350 a night but min 5 night stay. From a diamond account.
Do you happen to be based in Lakewood:) ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on February 08, 2015, 09:20:47 AM
Do you happen to be based in Lakewood:) ?
Lol yes. But who I get the points from doesn't.... If that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 08, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
Lol yes. But who I get the points from doesn't.... If that makes a difference.
it doesn't make a difference, I was just trying to confirm what my friend said he paid for a week or so at the Waldorf.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on February 08, 2015, 10:57:51 AM
I can sometimes get around $325-$350 a night but min 5 night stay. From a diamond account.

That's normal.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 08, 2015, 10:58:39 AM
That's normal.
how?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on February 08, 2015, 01:00:11 PM
how?

Points. He's essentially selling you hilton points at .5-.55 cpp. Not a bad deal, but you can manufacture hilton points yourself for less.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on February 08, 2015, 01:18:03 PM
Points. He's essentially selling you hilton points at .5-.55 cpp. Not a bad deal, but you can manufacture hilton points yourself for less.
How?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: carele1 on February 08, 2015, 01:19:47 PM
My net rate is sometimes 295-350 at the Waldorf, But im not allowed to sell it for that rate, i have a minimum selling restriction. and it must be booked as part of a package. and its not booked with points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on February 08, 2015, 01:22:03 PM
My net rate is sometimes 295-350 at the Waldorf, But im not allowed to sell it for that rate, i have a minimum selling restriction. and it must be booked as part of a package. and its not booked with points.
Can you explain? How can they see for which rate you sold it?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 08, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
Points. He's essentially selling you hilton points at .5-.55 cpp. Not a bad deal, but you can manufacture hilton points yourself for less.
of course, red card is free, though if that's all that they are worth, its not even worth wasting the spend on them.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on February 08, 2015, 02:45:46 PM
of course, red card is free, though if that's all that they are worth, its not even worth wasting the spend on them.

not exactly true because some cards give more than 1ppd @tgt
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: carele1 on February 08, 2015, 03:02:58 PM
Can you explain? How can they see for which rate you sold it?

they cant, but sometimes they will just ask the client by the checkin desk how much he paid, and if he answers an rate how much he paid for the hotel only, the next morning i'm locked out.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on February 08, 2015, 03:47:28 PM
they cant, but sometimes they will just ask the client by the checkin desk how much he paid, and if he answers an rate how much he paid for the hotel only, the next morning i'm locked out.
So ill say $500, ok? ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 08, 2015, 04:46:02 PM
they cant, but sometimes they will just ask the client by the checkin desk how much he paid, and if he answers an rate how much he paid for the hotel only, the next morning i'm locked out.
What do you mean locked out?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 08, 2015, 04:46:18 PM
not exactly true because some cards give more than 1ppd @tgt
You mean the reserve 3ppd?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: carele1 on February 08, 2015, 05:01:45 PM
So ill say $500, ok? ;)

not correct, the answer must be, "it was a part of a package" "or we paid for the package".

What do you mean locked out?

locked out from the Hilton net reservation system
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 08, 2015, 05:05:16 PM
not correct, the answer must be, "it was a part of a package" "or we paid for the package".

locked out from the Hilton net reservation system
and if you get locked out, then what do you do?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on February 08, 2015, 11:26:41 PM
You mean the reserve 3ppd?

yes and maybe the citi depending on how target is classified.

edit. the surpass and the citi reserve both give 3ppd.

the basic citi may or may not depending on how target is classified.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: carele1 on February 09, 2015, 08:16:08 AM
and if you get locked out, then what do you do?

need to send in proof of package. otherwise i loose the contract.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on February 19, 2015, 10:32:04 AM
Did anyone stay with kids in the room?
Did they charge you extra?
They claim that for a child over 3 there is a $110 charge per night
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 19, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Did anyone stay with kids in the room?
Did they charge you extra?
They claim that for a child over 3 there is a $110 charge per night
I had 2 connecting rooms with 2 adults and 4 kids. 3 kids were over 3 years old.

Each was booked as a 2 person room.

Since our concierge took us up to the room at checkin, they obviously knew how many people were staying there.

A few hours later, there was a knock on the door bringing 4 glasses of chocolate milk and a tray of cookies for my kids.

And no. I wasn't charged extra.

They did mention something along the lines of $110 or so for any more than 4 (2 per room) people at breakfast.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on February 19, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
I'm thinking of staying with 2 toddlers and a baby in one room, is it doable?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 19, 2015, 10:47:37 AM
I'm thinking of staying with 2 toddlers and a baby in one room, is it doable?
I think so.

They also gave me a crib and a (regular-size bed) rollaway btw (no charge).

When you make the reservation, you won't be able to add more than 2 ppl/room though.

But read through this thread, and you'll find some experiences.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on February 19, 2015, 10:50:30 AM
I think so.

They also gave me a crib and a (regular-size bed) rollaway btw (no charge).

When you make the reservation, you won't be able to add more than 2 ppl/room though.

But read through this thread, and you'll find some experiences.
Thanks for the info.
I want to stay there for 5 nights and don't have enough certs & points for 2 rooms.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2015, 10:56:21 AM
I think so.

They also gave me a crib and a (regular-size bed) rollaway btw (no charge).

When you make the reservation, you won't be able to add more than 2 ppl/room though.

But read through this thread, and you'll find some experiences.
Any pics of the crib or rooms you got?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 19, 2015, 11:43:05 AM
Any pics of the crib or rooms you got?
I dont think I have any pictures of the crib but it was definitely a decent one.

You cant really see anything from the pictures I have from inside the room (closeups of kids on the bed etc...).

One room looked exactly like the "King Deluxe Balcony Room" on the website.

The second room had a chair and ottoman instead of a couch.

Looking at the photos on TripAdvisor, I can see now that my rooms were definitely larger than the so-called standard room. But you can see the "Deluxe" rooms there as well.

A bottle of wine in each room (one more was added at some point over the three days), a few large glass bottles of water, some small glass bottles of soda. Each room also had a bowl of fruit.

My daughter took great pictures of the fruit and sodas.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 01:03:28 PM
fwiw, a pic of the crib

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7412/15962444443_17872b3155_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2015, 01:15:37 PM
What room is that?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 19, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
What room is that?
Im gonna guess a Jr. Suite
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 01:19:40 PM
Im gonna guess a Jr. Suite
sounds about right
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 19, 2015, 01:25:17 PM
Cribs were very small...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 19, 2015, 01:27:18 PM
Im gonna guess a Jr. Suite
nope, deluxe balcony
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 01:28:47 PM
nope, deluxe balcony
i dont think there was a balcony
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 19, 2015, 01:31:14 PM
nope, deluxe balcony
I had a deluxe balcony and didn't have all that extra room where the table is.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2015, 01:42:15 PM
Have more pics of the junior suite?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 01:44:49 PM
here be some more

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8631/16582520545_d9b223c702_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/16581291661_86c3bdf7da_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7390/16395482770_ed2b1e2edb_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7446/16396647219_209dc313ec_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 01:45:01 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7295/16582516495_2d630e6dfb_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7412/16395282118_307c1d8c98_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7367/16396644469_fbb2c7fcb5_b.jpg)

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7326/16396643869_c6485d0f35_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 01:51:30 PM
Did anyone stay with kids in the room?
Did they charge you extra?
They claim that for a child over 3 there is a $110 charge per night
Officially any one child up till 18 is free
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 01:52:28 PM
Thank you for all the pictures what category room is that? I booked deluxe balcony
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2015, 01:52:46 PM
Moish, that looks much bigger than a junior suite, no?
Must be at least a 1BR suite.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Officially any one child up till 18 is free
i dont think that is the official rule
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 01:54:19 PM
I'll check again I remeb seeing that on website
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on February 19, 2015, 01:56:27 PM
Officially any one child up till 18 is free
They emailed me that from 3 its $110 a night
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 01:57:20 PM
Moish, that looks much bigger than a junior suite, no?
Must be at least a 1BR suite.
odd, i just checked out the website and it appears this room is smaller than the 1 bedroom suite but definitely bigger that the junior suite. unless the 1 br suite doesnt have a separate living room (no pics of it on the site) in which case this one would be bigger
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
Take a look
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 02:02:12 PM
There are blackout dates
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 02:05:27 PM
I just convinced them to give me a 4 a clock checkout for free no big deal they great with email correspondence
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
Dan are you staying at the waldorf?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 19, 2015, 02:26:08 PM
Take a look
interesting, i usually look at booking.com to ascertain the children policy, and for the waldorf they say its free only for under 3
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 19, 2015, 02:34:03 PM
I heard that rabbi kuber spoke to the mashgichim and had a few issues ..
One of then was the fact that
They also serve non mehadrin meat when they have a catered event- and use the same kitchen/utensils.
They do claim try kasher everything afterwards- but he says not so practical
(Or so I heard...
I also never heard any rav actually eat or give the ok to eat there as of now...
I know of one rav who is a relative of the owners that only eats dairy there...)
1. Have YOU spoken with Rabbi Kuber??
2. At least one of the Mashgichim there is his "Talmid" and is very reliable.
3/4. Both Rabbi Tzvi Bringer and Rabbi Muller from Neve Yaakov have said that you can eat there given that you have checked with the Mashgiach beforehand that no such event is going on while you are there and if there was that they Kashered the kitchen.

Let's see what the KFI comes up with...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 19, 2015, 02:40:42 PM
1. Have YOU spoken with Rabbi Kuber??
2. At least one of the Mashgichim there is his "Talmid" and is very reliable.
3/4. Both Rabbi Tzvi Bringer and Rabbi Muller from Neve Yaakov have said that you can eat there given that you have checked with the Mashgiach beforehand that no such event is going on while you are there and if there was that they Kashered the kitchen.

Let's see what the KFI comes up with...
Well I heard the above st from rabbi Tzvi bringer bshem r kuber... If that helps...

Again- I didn't say he said its treif... Just had a few issues- that to me did sound minor- but he didnt come out and give the ok to eat there...

(On a side note- I have a hard time figuring out what r bringer means when he gives the ok- as I also heard from him that if you eat machpud you can eat practically anything in Israel... So I've heard him tell ppl (me) certain places are ok- when I've also heard him say it has problems... )
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 19, 2015, 02:44:31 PM
And I haven't heard that the KFI has an in there yet...
(Spoke to the rav today)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2015, 03:00:39 PM
Anyone have an email address to talk to a mashgiach for the hotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 19, 2015, 06:38:25 PM
Anyone have an email address to talk to a mashgiach for the hotel?

thank you Dan
I have a reservation the week after you
looking out at your reporting on this.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
thank you Dan
I have a reservation the week after you
looking out at your reporting on this.
I know nothing about kashrus in Israel, not sure why you would rely on me.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 19, 2015, 07:26:26 PM
Same here March 16th reservations feel bad missed the seminar by a couple of days never been to one
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 19, 2015, 07:30:02 PM
I know nothing about kashrus in Israel, not sure why you would rely on me.
I just want to hear what he tells you.
I guess if you're confident enough to eat there then so am I .
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ergel on February 19, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
I know nothing about kashrus in Israel, not sure why you would rely on me.
Duh, because you're Dan
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 20, 2015, 02:05:32 AM
Anyone have an email address to talk to a mashgiach for the hotel?

Eli: 054-940-5494
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 02:24:49 AM
Anyone have an email address to talk to a mashgiach for the hotel?

Eli: 054-940-5494
Is that @Gmail or @Yahoo
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on February 20, 2015, 03:58:47 AM
I just want to hear what he tells you.
I guess if you're confident enough to eat there then so am I .
Ignore Dan's protestations of humility.
The greatest amongst us always deflect attention from themselves.
:)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 20, 2015, 05:34:40 AM
Is that @Gmail or @Yahoo
If he would have Internet - that would make him Pasul for eidus (per ywn),

I think a mashgiachs whole neemanus is as a 'eid echad', so...
:)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 20, 2015, 07:03:13 AM
If he would have Internet - that would make him Pasul for eidus (per ywn),

I think a mashgiachs whole neemanus is as a 'eid echad', so...
:)
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 20, 2015, 09:20:52 AM
Eli: 054-940-5494
Thanks.

FWIW...no idea where this leaves me as I still don't even know who to talk to about this stuff :P
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 09:27:18 AM
Thanks.

FWIW...no idea where this leaves me as I still don't even know who to talk to about this stuff
Is that convo between you and the masgiach?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 20, 2015, 09:34:57 AM
Is that convo between you and the masgiach?
Yes.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 20, 2015, 09:40:26 AM
Duh, because you're Dan
Lol, honestly, I'm speechless.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 09:40:57 AM
Yes.

I would think that you now need a conversation with him to feel his sincerity.
from what he wrote you, the details sound fine.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: lunatic on February 20, 2015, 09:41:25 AM
Thanks.

FWIW...no idea where this leaves me as I still don't even know who to talk to about this stuff :P

Well,  if you find out that the mashgiach is reliable,  you should be fine
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 09:45:37 AM
Well,  if you find out that the mashgiach is reliable,  you should be fine
According to who? Everyone has different standards
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 09:47:42 AM
According to who? Everyone has different standards

Read, he wrote the Standards.
they are 100 Percent Excellent standards.
Only thing now is do you feel comfortable with him, do you trust this mashgiach.
I think a phone call or asking around is enough for that.

but again, his standards ? read them in Dan's Exchange.
pretty clear.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 20, 2015, 09:48:52 AM
I would think that you now need a conversation with him to feel his sincerity.
from what he wrote you, the details sound fine.
Many have posted that he's sincere.  I just don't know about the rabanut mehadrin business for some of the meat/chicken.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 09:49:23 AM
he clearly is not using Rabunat (plain) meat !
He's very careful not to rely on Heter Mechira for Shemita.
there's a mashgiach temidi there.
what other standards ?

one question is left, do you trust him ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 09:51:18 AM


Read, he wrote the Standards.
they are 100 Percent Excellent standards.
Only thing now is do you feel comfortable with him, do you trust this mashgiach.
I think a phone call or asking around is enough for that.

but again, his standards ? read them in Dan's Exchange.
pretty clear.

What is clear?  Explain to me Dans standards.
And those standards are not excellent to everyone, I for one don't eat all those.
Where are you from?  Are you assuming that since he wrote the word "mehadrin" that's good enough?  are you familiar with kashrus here?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 09:51:45 AM
Many have posted that he's sincere.  I just don't know about the rabanut mehadrin business for some of the meat/chicken.

Listen I might be wrong
I spent quite a few years learning is EY
granted it was some years back.
and from what I understand, If you would eat OU then Rabanut Mehadrin is equally fine.
again, anyone here agree?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 09:53:33 AM

What is clear?  Explain to me Dans standards.
And those standards are not excellent to everyone, I for one don't eat all those.
Where are you from?  Are you assuming that since he wrote the word "mehadrin" that's good enough?  are you familiar with kashrus here?

Enlighten me.
I know of lot's of people that only eat the 2 big hechsherim (Eida, & Rav Landau)
but if you go out of that standard Am I wrong that the list above is perfect ?
Clearly Dan falls into this category along with most of us Charedim.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 20, 2015, 09:55:48 AM
Enlighten me.
I know of lot's of people that only eat the 2 big hechsherim (Eida, & Rav Landau)
but if you go out of that standard Am I wrong that the list above is perfect ?
Clearly Dan falls into this category along with most of us Charedim.
At least one of us knows which category I fit into!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: lunatic on February 20, 2015, 09:56:10 AM
At least one of us knows which category I fit into!
Lol
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 09:57:23 AM


Am I wrong that the list above is perfect ?
Clearly Dan falls into this category along with most of us Charedim.
Yes. You are wrong, and the next step under those big 2 is NOT rabbanut mehadrin.
And I don't know what your smoking about thst second part
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 09:58:11 AM
Yes. You are wrong, and the next step under those big 2 is NOT rabbanut mehadrin.
And I don't know what your smoking about thst second part

tell me more
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 09:59:19 AM

tell me more
About what?  It seems you have lots to understand
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ergel on February 20, 2015, 10:03:05 AM
Thanks.

FWIW...no idea where this leaves me as I still don't even know who to talk to about this stuff :P
Seems to me like the rabbanut mehadrin is batel brov ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on February 20, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
Dan, did you ask him if they Kasher the kitchen after an event where they used non mehadrin meat?

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 10:12:57 AM
Dan, did you ask him if they Kasher the kitchen after an event where they used non mehadrin meat?

He wrote that he only uses Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 10:13:50 AM
He wrote that he only uses Mehadrin.
To serve regular guests..
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 10:22:58 AM
To serve regular guests..

Emkay,
I love you, but if you know information, then please talk.
Your not giving away secrets on MS here,
it's just you know you would do us visitors a favor.
please be kind and elaborate.
thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 20, 2015, 10:28:00 AM
Emkay,
I love you, but if you know information, then please talk.
Your not giving away secrets on MS here,
it's just you know you would do us visitors a favor.
please be kind and elaborate.
thanks in advance.
There are no secrets. Unfortunately the kashrus here cannot explained all regel achas, if you have specIfic questions you can ask and I can answer what I know but I'll tell you this much,  deciding that a certain establishment is good when you usually don't eat that hechser can definitely not be decided on a 20 word text unless you have other info also
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 20, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
Emkay,
I love you, but if you know information, then please talk.
Your not giving away secrets on MS here,
it's just you know you would do us visitors a favor.
please be kind and elaborate.
thanks in advance.

It's not a secret that most charedim don't eat Rabbanut Mehadrin meat.
That's all.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 20, 2015, 03:46:22 PM
Read, he wrote the Standards.
they are 100 Percent Excellent standards.
Only thing now is do you feel comfortable with him, do you trust this mashgiach.
I think a phone call or asking around is enough for that.

but again, his standards ? read them in Dan's Exchange.
pretty clear.

If you eat Rabbanut Mehadrin then it's excellent standards.
But since most people don't, I have to disagree.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 20, 2015, 03:51:29 PM
If you would eat at Shayen or Keryen (spelling ?) Or anywhere in restaurants then, Can that person eat at the waldorf?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 21, 2015, 12:11:44 PM
If you would eat at Shayen or Keryen (spelling ?) Or anywhere in restaurants then, Can that person eat at the waldorf?
Most people that eat in sheyan/Keyara IMO would NOT eat plain Rabanut mehadrin meat...
That is one of the items the KFI had to deal with...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 21, 2015, 12:13:33 PM
Thanks.

FWIW...no idea where this leaves me as I still don't even know who to talk to about this stuff :P
In glad you got all that in writing-
Because I know many ppl that spoke to him and he omitted the Rabanut mehadrin part.

(Btw some claim that the meat is not really Rabanut mehadrin- but machpud, But that's a whole dif discussion...)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 21, 2015, 07:38:29 PM
If it was machpud then why wouldn't he write that instead of rabanut mehedrin?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 21, 2015, 07:41:20 PM
In some people's opinion machpud is a whole lot better there should be no reason for him not to say that
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 21, 2015, 08:10:04 PM
I just ate by a big rav's house who equated eating rabbanut mehadrin to eating Ou, so for all those that don't eat rabbanut mehadrin, do you eat Ou?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 21, 2015, 08:18:08 PM
please define the term "big rav"
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ergel on February 21, 2015, 08:31:41 PM
please define the term "big rav"
+1
And just because someone said that doesn't mean everyone has to agree with it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 21, 2015, 08:34:26 PM
+1
And just because someone said that doesn't mean everyone has to agree with it
is course not, I just wanted to hear others opinions
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 21, 2015, 08:39:43 PM
is course not, I just wanted to hear others opinions
my opinion is that i disagree with the "big rav"s sentiment
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on February 21, 2015, 10:23:14 PM
I just ate by a big rav's house who equated eating rabbanut mehadrin to eating Ou, so for all those that don't eat rabbanut mehadrin, do you eat Ou?
gotta second this, heard similar sentiment from someone pretty high up in uk kashrus
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 21, 2015, 10:29:21 PM
gotta second this, heard similar sentiment from someone pretty high up in uk kashrus

And that is what I meant one page ago.
I equted this to the ou standard.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 12:15:13 AM
I just ate by a big rav's house who equated eating rabbanut mehadrin to eating Ou, so for all those that don't eat rabbanut mehadrin, do you eat Ou?
And I've heard from people working in OU America that OU Israel isn't the same standards. Do any of these comments help anyone?



Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 22, 2015, 01:56:43 AM
And I've heard from people working in OU America that OU Israel isn't the same standards. Do any of these comments help anyone?

I've heard the same.

I'm pretty that "big Rav" was referring to OU Israel. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tom Brady on February 22, 2015, 07:09:10 AM
I just ate by a big rav's house who equated eating rabbanut mehadrin to eating Ou, so for all those that don't eat rabbanut mehadrin, do you eat Ou?
I think Fleishigs is different though. The OU wouldn't put their hechsher on meat nearly as quickly as they would on a Hersheys bar. I know many people who eat rabbanut mehadrin for milchigs but not for fleishigs.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 07:28:42 AM
I think Fleishigs is different though. The OU wouldn't put their hechsher on meat nearly as quickly as they would on a Hersheys bar. I know many people who eat rabbanut mehadrin for milchigs but not for fleishigs.

And how many people here eat ou meat in Israel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on February 22, 2015, 07:30:54 AM
And how many people here eat ou meat in Israel?
or even in America for that matter
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2015, 07:34:55 AM
Is there just plain OU meat in the US?
Truth is I'd eat at an OU restaurant in the US without finding out what meat they use.

And the OU claims that they have the same standards in israel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on February 22, 2015, 07:45:00 AM
Jeez, I think 75% of this thread could go into the Kashrus thread, and it would be much cleaner.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 22, 2015, 07:48:35 AM
Anyone who eats papagayos in talipot should know that that's ou meat in israel
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 22, 2015, 07:49:49 AM
I personally eat there but then again I eat rabbanut mehadrin and machpud so I guess according to some pretty lenient?
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: peacenlove613 on February 22, 2015, 07:55:56 AM
If you trust them in America why wouldn't you trust them in Israel?
A rumor because you heard from someone doesn't change anything unless it can be verified. 

https://oukosher.org/faqs/ou-israel/
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2015, 08:06:00 AM
Probably because everything in israel is overly politicized which makes it hard to differentiate the actual issues from the politics.
And leaves americans utterly clueless about what their standards should be when visiting.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 22, 2015, 08:08:16 AM
Thank you for that link it's pretty informative I've heard ppl say things like " there is no ou in israel at all its a scam"
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on February 22, 2015, 08:33:22 AM


If you trust them in America why wouldn't you trust them in Israel?
a lot more halachos in Israel: trumos & maaser, shviis etc
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 08:36:39 AM
If you trust them in America why wouldn't you trust them in Israel?
A rumor because you heard from someone doesn't change anything unless it can be verified. 

https://oukosher.org/faqs/ou-israel/

I've spoken to various people who work in the OU in different departments and gotten different answers.

Personally I eat OU in Israel.
Many don't.
At the end of the day you can't really know.
Like I've shared in the past at the end of the day all you really know is that you paid for kosher.

I've asked my LOR about which hechsherim to eat and what not. And then at the end asked straight out if I'm eating Rabbanut am I eating kosher? And the answer is yes.
The rest is all depending on chumros and trust of an establishment and it's workers.
In Israel I've seen places with Rabbanut hechsher been more careful and on top of things than places with the top accepted mehadrin hechsherim.
There is no black and white answer. You do what research you feel necessary and "pay for kosher" .
Anyone eating food outside of their own house can't really be sure.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: peacenlove613 on February 22, 2015, 08:52:10 AM

I've spoken to various people who work in the OU in different departments and gotten different answers.

Personally I eat OU in Israel.
Many don't.
At the end of the day you can't really know.
Like I've shared in the past at the end of the day all you really know is that you paid for kosher.

I've asked my LOR about which hechsherim to eat and what not. And then at the end asked straight out if I'm eating Rabbanut am I eating kosher? And the answer is yes.
The rest is all depending on chumros and trust of an establishment and it's workers.
In Israel I've seen places with Rabbanut hechsher been more careful and on top of things than places with the top accepted mehadrin hechsherim.
There is no black and white answer. You do what research you feel necessary and "pay for kosher" .
Anyone eating food outside of their own house can't really be sure.
Well said
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on February 22, 2015, 08:56:39 AM
And then at the end asked straight out if I'm eating Rabbanut am I eating kosher? And the answer is yes.
and i've spoken to some people and they say: no

not that its bassur v'cholov, but they're relying on kulos that most don't hold of
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 09:29:50 AM
and i've spoken to some people and they say: no

not that its bassur v'cholov, but they're relying on kulos that most don't hold of
So they think it's trief?  Anyways I'm not saying to eat it. Was just trying to make a point.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 22, 2015, 09:49:20 AM
a lot more halachos in Israel: trumos & maaser, shviis etc
Why would you think that fruits and vegetables from Israel don't make their way to the US?

Fakert, I can make the argument that in the US they need to be more knowledgeable, wary, and on the lookout for Israeli produce. Especially since store owners have less knowledge of the Halachos involved.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on February 22, 2015, 10:35:27 AM
and i've spoken to some people and they say: no

not that its bassur v'cholov, but they're relying on kulos that most don't hold of
+1. And I am talking about the non mehadrin one. There are so many Shailes especially with meat even a good Hechsher has to be soo careful with meat. Never mind rabbanut who has no standards...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on February 22, 2015, 10:39:05 AM
Is there just plain OU meat in the US?
Truth is I'd eat at an OU restaurant in the US without finding out what meat they use.

And the OU claims that they have the same standards in israel.
I dont think there is. Personally I verified with Le Marais that they use mealmart.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: raphy781 on February 22, 2015, 10:56:15 AM
Why would you think that fruits and vegetables from Israel don't make their way to the US?
Then you get into ביטול ברוב, but if a store exclusively sells fruit imported from Israel you may have a problem.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 22, 2015, 12:26:01 PM

I've asked my LOR about which hechsherim to eat and what not. And then at the end asked straight out if I'm eating Rabbanut am I eating kosher? And the answer is yes.

i believe your rabbi is misinformed
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 12:42:10 PM
i believe your rabbi is misinformed

Make no mistake, he wasn't telling me to eat it. I just asked if I was eating kosher or not if I did eat it. This was after getting a rundown of which hechsherim I should or shouldn't eat.

Meanwhile you still may hold by your statement but that only helps my point... No black and white.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 22, 2015, 12:43:11 PM
i believe your rabbi is misinformed
Or simply uninformed
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 22, 2015, 12:48:15 PM
No black and white.

i dont agree to disagree on this one. its black and white
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 22, 2015, 12:48:56 PM
Or simply uninformed

i wouldnt think so , because if thats the case hes no rabbi, weighing in on things he has no clue about. i  prefer misinformed
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 12:51:34 PM
i dont agree to disagree on this one. its black and white

So ou Israel? Good? Or no good?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 22, 2015, 12:56:22 PM
My head is already spinning with all the info.

OU good or no good
If you trust OU worldwide why can't that be equally the same as eating here ?
If you eat in Israeli restaurants then why is this different ?
The mashgiach sounds reliable, or not ?
And finally is this all politics or not ?

חברה, מאכט'ס סדר please
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2015, 12:57:37 PM
The answer is you'll ask 3 people and get 10 different answers.
And unfortunately it's one of the reasons I find traveling in Israel to be a pain.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 22, 2015, 12:57:56 PM
So ou Israel? Good? Or no good?
Some say good, some say no-good. Others disagree.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 22, 2015, 12:58:40 PM
Also,
Some more
Clearly, why is Rabunnat Mehadrin being eqauted to plain Rabanut by some here ?
Is that an honest assessment ? Not sure about that.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 22, 2015, 12:59:27 PM
When OU decides to start taking Chodosh in Israel more seriously they might be looked at a bit more seriously.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 01:01:51 PM
Some say good, some say no-good. Others disagree.

Sounds grey to me. :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 01:02:45 PM
Also,
Some more
Clearly, why is Rabunnat Mehadrin being eqauted to plain Rabanut by some here ?
Is that an honest assessment ? Not sure about that.

Depends who you ask. :P

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 22, 2015, 01:04:42 PM
When OU decides to start taking Chodosh in Israel more seriously they might be looked at a bit more seriously.
So if i'm chsidic and chidish is no issue then would you say im fine.
Im just adding and stirring up the mix...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 22, 2015, 01:08:29 PM
So if i'm chsidic and chidish is no issue then would you say im fine.
Im just adding and stirring up the mix...

Chodosh in Israel is a problem according to everyone IINM.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 22, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
Chodosh in Israel is a problem according to everyone IINM.
Oy vey
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 22, 2015, 01:24:48 PM
And unfortunately it's one of the reasons I find traveling in Israel to be a pain.
Are you serious?  Did you think that out before writing?
Jerusalem has more truly mehadrin restaurants per 5 square blocks then the entire Ohio! Also likely every town that you will want to visit will have a mutually acceptable restaurant. There are specific establishments that you are craving to eat in? People don't come to israel for the culinary experience, if that's the reason why you visit then you have some serious soul searching to do.
To put down your Israeli vacation due to not being able to sample what they say is the worlds best spicy lamb chili is simply ludicrous.
/end rant
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 22, 2015, 01:26:44 PM
I have a feeling this aint gonna end well, even though you wrote end rant.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on February 22, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
Call amex concierge and ask them. I wonder what they would say ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2015, 01:31:57 PM
I was in Israel in 07, 09, and 10. I didn't go for food, I saw the sights I wanted to see.

I don't like the mass confusion over what is acceptable or not, it ruins the entire experience for me. No other place has this level of confusion. That and the pain that the rental car companies inflict make it a place that I don't feel like returning to every year.

Call me a bad Jew if that makes you happier.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: itsyehuda on February 22, 2015, 01:54:48 PM

Chodosh in Israel is a problem according to everyone IINM.

^^ yes התר of the ב״ח that the חסידים rely on is for חו״ל
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ergel on February 22, 2015, 01:54:58 PM
Oy vey
??? Isn't it a din in shulchan aruch?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2015, 02:42:24 PM
Put it like this, how crazy is it that when I go to Kauai I can eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner at the hotel club or restaurant without any worry, but in the nicest hotel in Jerusalem there are 1,000 opinions on what I can or can't partake in.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SOS on February 22, 2015, 02:46:01 PM
Can we change the name of this thread to kashrus in isreal?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on February 22, 2015, 02:47:41 PM
My family likes to joke that Israel is the only country you could starve in.



Eggs are about the only thing you can buy anywhere. Or fish if you're catching them yourself.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 22, 2015, 02:51:08 PM
My family likes to joke that Israel is the only country you could starve in.
One of my brothers ate pretty much only ice cream bars for a month in Israel...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MC on February 22, 2015, 02:54:53 PM
One of my brothers ate pretty much only ice cream bars for a month in Israel...
That doesn't sound too bad.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 22, 2015, 03:00:14 PM
Put it like this, how crazy is it that when I go to Kauai I can eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner at the hotel club or restaurant without any worry, but in the nicest hotel in Jerusalem there are 1,000 opinions on what I can or can't partake in.
More Jews more machlokes.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on February 22, 2015, 03:24:14 PM
That doesn't sound too bad.

I'm telling my wife not to cook for you next time we have you for a meal.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: luckyluck on February 22, 2015, 05:49:48 PM
Chodosh in Israel is a problem according to everyone IINM.
True. But Israel and Europe have mostly winter wheat and barley production and therefor it shouldn't be a problem. IINM.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: elya on February 22, 2015, 06:21:41 PM
1. Have YOU spoken with Rabbi Kuber??
2. At least one of the Mashgichim there is his "Talmid" and is very reliable.
3/4. Both Rabbi Tzvi Bringer and Rabbi Muller from Neve Yaakov have said that you can eat there given that you have checked with the Mashgiach beforehand that no such event is going on while you are there and if there was that they Kashered the kitchen.

Let's see what the KFI comes up with...
I personally spoke with Rabbi Kuber. He told me that after going through the entire kitchen from top to bottom,there are certain shortcomings, therefore unfortunately he cannot recommend it! He did tell me the afternoon Mashgiach is a very choshuv person and a talmid of his, but "he is not on the menu". meaning that the problems still exist. He did not specify what the problems are.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 22, 2015, 07:57:23 PM
quote author=elya link=topic=14752.msg1072045#msg1072045 date=1424647301]
 I personally spoke with Rabbi Kuber. He told me that after going through the entire kitchen from top to bottom,there are certain shortcomings, therefore unfortunately he cannot recommend it! He did tell me the afternoon Mashgiach is a very choshuv person and a talmid of his, but "he is not on the menu". meaning that the problems still exist. He did not specify what the problems are.
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Big help maybe he should specify the problems??
Don't know who rabbi kuber is maybe his idea of issues is the length of the cooks skirt?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on February 22, 2015, 08:50:16 PM
quote author=elya link=topic=14752.msg1072045#msg1072045 date=1424647301]
 I personally spoke with Rabbi Kuber. He told me that after going through the entire kitchen from top to bottom,there are certain shortcomings, therefore unfortunately he cannot recommend it! He did tell me the afternoon Mashgiach is a very choshuv person and a talmid of his, but "he is not on the menu". meaning that the problems still exist. He did not specify what the problems are.

Big help maybe he should specify the problems??
Don't know who rabbi kuber is maybe his idea of issues is the length of the cooks skirt?
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Rabbi Kuber was very high up in the OU in israel. I have spoken to him on many occasions about kashrus and he is very blunt and straightforward, though for various reasons he sometimes cannot say certain things or always be quoted. That is the nature of the beast and you cannot fault him for that. I would def, rely on him, however you have to ask the right questions to get the right answers...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on February 22, 2015, 08:53:23 PM
Why can't he say straight up what is wrong
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 23, 2015, 12:30:19 AM
True. But Israel and Europe have mostly winter wheat and barley production and therefor it shouldn't be a problem. IINM.

But OU certifies a lot of products that are Chodosh (eg. Cheerios (http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2013/02/chodosh-update-from-r-herman/#comment-17058),  Cookies 'N Cream (http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2014/03/hersheys-cookies-cream/)) that end up in Israel every year.
That's one of the reasons why Israelis distrust OU.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: itsyehuda on February 23, 2015, 01:35:04 AM

But OU certifies a lot of products that are Chodosh (eg. Cheerios (http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2013/02/chodosh-update-from-r-herman/#comment-17058),  Cookies 'N Cream (http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2014/03/hersheys-cookies-cream/)) that end up in Israel every year.
That's one of the reasons why Israelis distrust OU.

Is it the product of EY or the person being in EY that matters?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AharonInIsrael on February 23, 2015, 02:34:06 AM
Is it the product of EY or the person being in EY that matters?
It's made in chu"l, but even regular rabbanut here holds that chodosh of chutz laaretz is no good (unlike the OU).
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 23, 2015, 09:26:31 AM
Is there just plain OU meat in the US?
Truth is I'd eat at an OU restaurant in the US without finding out what meat they use.

And the OU claims that they have the same standards in israel.
I spoke to someone who knows the ou very well he said that although ou Israel has the same standards as ou America its much harder to put it in practice with Israelis
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 23, 2015, 09:29:43 AM
I spoke to someone who knows the ou very well he said that although ou Israel has the same standards as ou America its much harder to put it in practice with Israelis
It seems all the "people that know" may be confused themselves as they keep giving conflicting reports
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 23, 2015, 09:30:32 AM
And for all those who think rabanut is treif I don't know who your Rabbis are but at least according to Rabbi Berkovitz it is most definitely kosher (not taking about shmitta)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 23, 2015, 09:31:05 AM
It seems all the "people that know" may be confused themselves as they keep giving conflicting reports
not sure what you're talking about but he's a musmach and very close talmid of rabbi belsky and won't eat at papgaios for that reason
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 23, 2015, 09:34:26 AM
not sure what you're talking about but he's a musmach and very close talmid of rabbi belsky and won't eat at papgaios for that reason
I meat what I wrote.  The same way that you spoke to "people that know", I also did, and I got different impressIons.
To lay it out like it is, one of the heads of kashrus of OU WONT eat at any OU establishments except papagaoi
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 23, 2015, 09:38:13 AM
I meat what I wrote.  The same way that you spoke to "people that know", I also did, and I got different impressIons.
To lay it out like it is, one of the heads of kashrus of OU WONT eat at any OU establishments except papagaoi
I don't follow R' Belsky holds very highly of OU Israel
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 23, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
I don't follow R' Belsky holds very highly of OU Israel
And ou meat in America?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 23, 2015, 09:41:06 AM
And ou meat in America?
also I think I'll move this to pm to better get at what you're saying
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on February 23, 2015, 09:56:43 AM
I think we should make a israel hechsher thread..... If there isn't one already.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 23, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
I think we should make a israel hechsher thread..... If there isn't one already.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=32063
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 23, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
I think we should make a israel hechsher thread..... If there isn't one already.

We should stick a fork in this thread.
Or fork off this thread.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: NYHeel on February 23, 2015, 12:10:01 PM
Or simply uninformed
I'll open up this can of worms. Can someone specifically tell me which leniencies a Rabbanut hashgacha takes? For purposes of this discussion let's take Sheviis off the table and assume we're talking about the Jerusalem Rabbanut.

I've always found the topic of Kosher certification to be one of the scariest and worst discussions had in the Orthodox community. And I'm probably not talking scary in the same way you're thinking. I'm referring to scary in the way rumors are started and spread without people actually understanding the specific problems/issues at hand. You end up with the general consensus that a certain hashgacha isn't good and in some cases it's because of some issue completely unrelated to Kashruth.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 23, 2015, 12:18:16 PM
Unless one (or one's Rov) is an expert in Kashrus AND has visited the Rabbanut slaughterhouses it is impossible or simply ignorant to say that Rabbanut meat is 100% treif.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2015, 12:25:16 PM
And ou meat in America?
Is there plain OU meat in the USA?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SamKey on February 23, 2015, 12:28:02 PM
Unless one (or one's Rov) is an expert in Kashrus AND has visited the Rabbanut slaughterhouses it is impossible or simply ignorant to say that Rabbanut meat is 100% treif.
+1M Anyone who has ever seen any of the Rabanut Smicha tests will know that the Rabanim behind all the Heterim are of the highest caliber Talmidei Chachamim and are probably of the greatest in the world. I am not saying that they themselves would eat it, but Treif??? Definitely not.
I personally spoke with Rabbi Kuber. He told me that after going through the entire kitchen from top to bottom,there are certain shortcomings, therefore unfortunately he cannot recommend it! He did tell me the afternoon Mashgiach is a very choshuv person and a talmid of his, but "he is not on the menu". meaning that the problems still exist. He did not specify what the problems are.
From the fact that he is not willing to disclose whatthe issues are to me that means they are very minor if any. He probably means that there are potential possible problems which is the case in half the restaurants around the world

@Dan I am not sure what is  so complicated: Find out which Chabad Rabbi in Israel knows his stuff and ask him
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on February 23, 2015, 12:34:36 PM
Is there plain OU meat in the USA?
Meaning not OU glatt?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2015, 12:41:13 PM
Meaning not OU glatt?
Which OU meat doesn't have an additional hechsher on it?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on February 23, 2015, 12:45:32 PM
GUYS ENOUGH!!!!!

This is an Hotel thread not a Kashrus thread!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Ergel on February 23, 2015, 01:06:52 PM
Which OU meat doesn't have an additional hechsher on it?
Additional hechsher on it or actually additional hashgacha ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on February 23, 2015, 02:18:08 PM
GUYS ENOUGH!!!!!

This is an Hotel thread not a Kashrus thread!!
I was beginning to think that WA was a new hashgocha in Israel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sruly101 on February 23, 2015, 02:58:19 PM
I was beginning to think that WA was a new hashgocha in Israel.
+1, Its nuts
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: solls108 on February 23, 2015, 03:25:56 PM
Start a kashrus thread. Go home.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on February 23, 2015, 05:48:22 PM
Unless one (or one's Rov) is an expert in Kashrus AND has visited the Rabbanut slaughterhouses it is impossible or simply ignorant to say that Rabbanut meat is 100% treif.
Well if you really want to know- many Rabanim went around to a few stores and restaurants in the 'town' area last week together with the head of 'rabbanut mehadrin' last week (not just Rabanut)
And found 100% problems! Specifically,  treif cheese coming in, false statements on certificates and many other issues...

Even though their 'written' Standards are pretty good (though still NOT on par with American hechsherim- regarding locking the storage/meet, bishel of a non from Jew, and another I forgot right now) - they don't do most of that in practice!! It is up to the mashgiach on site to keep to it (and unfortunately tey found even 'good' mashgichim who disappeared for few hours) ...

Lastly, In the words of this Rabanut representative, Rabanuts goal is just to make thing "only half treif" so at least most Israelis shouldn't be eating full treif...

Just what I heard from my Rabanim... Take what you wish...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: elya on February 23, 2015, 07:22:45 PM
From the fact that he is not willing to disclose whatthe issues are to me that means they are very minor if any. He probably means that there are potential possible problems which is the case in half the restaurants around the world

Noone is telling anyone what to do. Everyone can draw their own conclusions! Rabbi Kuber was very adamant that the place cannot be recommended, if you feel the problems are minimal go rite ahead. Noone is gonna stop you.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: elya on February 23, 2015, 07:26:10 PM
Well if you really want to know- many Rabanim went around to a few stores and restaurants in the 'town' area last week together with the head of 'rabbanut mehadrin' last week (not just Rabanut)
And found 100% problems! Specifically,  treif cheese coming in, false statements on certificates and many other issues...

Even though their 'written' Standards are pretty good (though still NOT on par with American hechsherim- regarding locking the storage/meet, bishel of a non from Jew, and another I forgot right now) - they don't do most of that in practice!! It is up to the mashgiach on site to keep to it (and unfortunately tey found even 'good' mashgichim who disappeared for few hours) ...

Lastly, In the words of this Rabanut representative, Rabanuts goal is just to make thing "only half treif" so at least most Israelis shouldn't be eating full treif...

Just what I heard from my Rabanim... Take what you wish...
+1 Ive heard along those lines as well. (Rabbi Kuber is under the staunch opinion that Rabbanut Mehadrin is unreliable EVEN FOR MILCHIGS!)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 23, 2015, 08:45:59 PM
The answer is you'll ask 3 people and get 10 different answers.
And unfortunately it's one of the reasons I find traveling in Israel to be a pain.
i guess youve never been to prague?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SOS on February 23, 2015, 09:41:55 PM
I updated the wiki
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 23, 2015, 10:33:59 PM
Well if you really want to know- many Rabanim went around to a few stores and restaurants in the 'town' area last week together with the head of 'rabbanut mehadrin' last week (not just Rabanut)
And found 100% problems! Specifically,  treif cheese coming in, false statements on certificates and many other issues...

Even though their 'written' Standards are pretty good (though still NOT on par with American hechsherim- regarding locking the storage/meet, bishel of a non from Jew, and another I forgot right now) - they don't do most of that in practice!! It is up to the mashgiach on site to keep to it (and unfortunately tey found even 'good' mashgichim who disappeared for few hours) ...

Lastly, In the words of this Rabanut representative, Rabanuts goal is just to make thing "only half treif" so at least most Israelis shouldn't be eating full treif...

Just what I heard from my Rabanim... Take what you wish...

You're mixing the Rabbanut standards for meat coming from slaughterhouses with the (lack of) supervision in restaurants.
2 completely different issues.
Both are problematic but need to be understood individually.

As I menntioned, and you seem to agree, it's impossible or naive to call Rabbanut meat 100% treif unless you're an expert and have seen the slaughtering process first hand.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 23, 2015, 10:36:43 PM
Can we talk about the amenities in the hotel or something some of us are planning on staying there in the upcoming weeks
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 23, 2015, 10:48:26 PM
Can we talk about the amenities in the hotel or something some of us are planning on staying there in the upcoming weeks
top of the line
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2015, 10:49:23 PM
top of the line
Namely?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 23, 2015, 11:03:48 PM
Namely?
the service is incredible, the food is out of this world good, and the hotel is stunning.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2015, 11:08:07 PM
the food is out of this world good

Which meals specifically?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 23, 2015, 11:15:24 PM
Which meals specifically?
all the meals I had, Shabbos night, shabbos day breakfast, shabbos day lunch and weekday breakfast. Though the Shabbos meals are $115 a meal.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 23, 2015, 11:42:27 PM
Any recommendations on specific rooms I will be having a crib will a deluxe room with balcony suffice?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 23, 2015, 11:55:04 PM
all the meals I had, Shabbos night, shabbos day breakfast, shabbos day lunch and weekday breakfast. Though the Shabbos meals are $115 a meal.

Do they have buffet?
I heard a while back that it's only waiter service, is that true?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 23, 2015, 11:56:08 PM
all the meals I had, Shabbos night, shabbos day breakfast, shabbos day lunch and weekday breakfast. Though the Shabbos meals are $115 a meal.
"Out of this world good" is definitely pushing it.
The Shabbos meals are good but I wouldn't call them outstanding by any stretch.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 23, 2015, 11:56:28 PM
Do they have buffet?
I heard a while back that it's only waiter service, is that true?
Waiter service on Friday night and buffet for lunch.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 23, 2015, 11:56:52 PM
Any recommendations on specific rooms I will be having a crib will a deluxe room with balcony suffice?
The basic room was very tight with a crib.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 24, 2015, 12:01:59 AM
Waiter service on Friday night and buffet for lunch.

No buffett Friday night is disappointing.
The only way they can make up for that is by having a massive menu and world class food.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 24, 2015, 12:03:58 AM
No buffett Friday night is disappointing.
The only way they can make up for that is by having a massive menu and world class food.
Why?
I liked it. Much better than getting up constantly and fending off hungry Jews at a buffet table.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 24, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
The basic room was very tight with a crib.
By basic do you mean king superior?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 24, 2015, 12:07:10 AM
Why?
I liked it. Much better than getting up constantly and fending off hungry Jews at a buffet table.

Well, I would probably prefer the Inbal where the food is great and I don't need to fight others, or wait for a waiter to bring one of 3 items that you must like or go to sleep hungry.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: jaywhy on February 24, 2015, 12:20:24 AM
Well, I would probably prefer the Inbal where the food is great and I don't need to fight others, or wait for a waiter to bring one of 3 items that you must like or go to sleep hungry.
We are talking about the WA. ;)
They had a nice selection and the food was good. I preferred it to a buffet, which they had at lunch.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 24, 2015, 12:24:38 AM
No buffett Friday night is disappointing.
The only way they can make up for that is by having a massive menu and world class food.
that pretty much describes it, I can still taste that sticks lamb.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 24, 2015, 12:25:56 AM
Well, I would probably prefer the Inbal where the food is great and I don't need to fight others, or wait for a waiter to bring one of 3 items that you must like or go to sleep hungry.
I had no such issues, they had whatever I wanted, and the waiters were always there
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yuneeq on February 24, 2015, 12:38:28 AM
We are talking about the WA. ;)
They had a nice selection and the food was good. I preferred it to a buffet, which they had at lunch.

Okay just making sure...
Still prefer the convenience of buffet.
After all, I grew up in NYC and have no patience for waiters.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2015, 01:07:19 AM
Any consensus on the elevators? Acceptable for shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 24, 2015, 01:08:21 AM
Any consensus on the elevators? Acceptable for shabbos?
For yourself ? Come on... you're not old.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2015, 01:11:40 AM
I have a 1 and 3 year old  ::)

 I may have walked up 15 floors in the Sheraton plaza as a bochur but that was then and this is now.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on February 24, 2015, 01:27:47 AM
I think they have elevators that go up to sections and not the ones that stop on every floor.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on February 24, 2015, 02:39:46 AM
I have a 1 and 3 year old  ::)

 I may have walked up 15 floors in the Sheraton plaza as a bochur but that was then and this is now.
If you ask nicely they give nice deluxe rooms on the first 3 floors to families (we were there on a full shabbos and got attached deluxe rooms on 3rd floor for our free HHonors Reserve awards). 3rd floor wasnt hard even with hefty 3 month old, and loved racing around the beautiful clock on the exquisitely detailed staircases.
that said, their elevators are wacky and take getting used to (if u dont have a key card cant use so motzei shabbos gotta go to front desk to ask for a new one).
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 24, 2015, 03:29:41 AM
I have a 1 and 3 year old  ::)

 I may have walked up 15 floors in the Sheraton plaza as a bochur but that was then and this is now.
our suite was on the second floor, try to get that
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 24, 2015, 06:32:49 AM
Also likely every town that you will want to visit will have a mutually acceptable restaurant.


anything up north in the haifa area?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 24, 2015, 07:47:51 AM
If you ask nicely they give nice deluxe rooms on the first 3 floors to families (we were there on a full shabbos and got attached deluxe rooms on 3rd floor for our free HHonors Reserve awards). 3rd floor wasnt hard even with hefty 3 month old, and loved racing around the beautiful clock on the exquisitely detailed staircases.
that said, their elevators are wacky and take getting used to (if u dont have a key card cant use so motzei shabbos gotta go to front desk to ask for a new one).
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 24, 2015, 08:01:46 AM
If you ask nicely they give nice deluxe rooms on the first 3 floors to families (we were there on a full shabbos and got attached deluxe rooms on 3rd floor for our free HHonors Reserve awards). 3rd floor wasnt hard even with hefty 3 month old, and loved racing around the beautiful clock on the exquisitely detailed staircases.
that said, their elevators are wacky and take getting used to (if u dont have a key card cant use so motzei shabbos gotta go to front desk to ask for a new one).
if dan cant swing a suite...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 24, 2015, 08:19:22 AM
Apparently In the reviews from hotel the rooms on those floors are located above the lobby which can be really noisy on shabbos keep that in mind not very conducive for kids to sleep
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 24, 2015, 08:20:26 AM
By basic do you mean king superior?
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Anyone know?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 24, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Apparently In the reviews from hotel the rooms on those floors are located above the lobby which can be really noisy on shabbos keep that in mind not very conducive for kids to sleep
Generally only the ones that are situated directly above, not the ones on the perimeter.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on February 24, 2015, 09:34:41 AM
Generally only the ones that are situated directly above, not the ones on the perimeter.
Ok thanks for clearing that up because I initially requested a room in that area and was having doubts
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 24, 2015, 10:54:58 AM
Apparently In the reviews from hotel the rooms on those floors are located above the lobby which can be really noisy on shabbos keep that in mind not very conducive for kids to sleep
my suite on 2nd floor was quiet
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 27, 2015, 09:58:14 AM
There's no pool that's open now, right?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 27, 2015, 10:06:53 AM
There's no pool that's open now, right?
correct, opening around summer 15
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on February 27, 2015, 11:01:19 AM
my suite on 2nd floor was quiet

Same here
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on February 27, 2015, 11:03:36 AM
How are they with upgrading diamonds to suites?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chuchem on February 28, 2015, 02:51:11 PM
They try to, if available.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on February 28, 2015, 04:07:50 PM
How are they with upgrading diamonds to suites?
i got with gold by launching a charm offensive
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on March 02, 2015, 10:16:00 PM
correct, opening around summer 15

any idea of a more definitive time and where did you hear summer? I am going to be there in end of July and hope they have it... Also does anyone know if indoor or outdoor pool?
Title: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on March 02, 2015, 10:53:29 PM
any idea of a more definitive time and where did you hear summer? I am going to be there in end of July and hope they have it... Also does anyone know if indoor or outdoor pool?
I heard September from the concierge.
Pretty sure it will be indoor,there's already a sign for the pool/spa on level -1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: SrulyP on March 03, 2015, 11:43:01 AM
I heard September from the concierge.
Pretty sure it will be indoor,there's already a sign for the pool/spa on level -1

Of course, when Israelis say something will be ready it's always annoyingly late.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 03, 2015, 06:59:06 PM
Dan,
Please update us on the Waldorf Astoria after your stay traveling within the next 2 weeks would love to hear all about it.
Thank you
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on March 04, 2015, 04:34:10 AM
Dan,
Please update us on the Waldorf Astoria after your stay traveling within the next 2 weeks would love to hear all about it.
Thank you
Fat chance
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 04, 2015, 07:00:09 AM
Fat chance
Really? What's the big deal?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on March 04, 2015, 07:02:53 AM
Really? What's the big deal?
He's still working in trip reports from 8 years ago
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 04, 2015, 07:08:02 AM
He's still working in trip reports from 8 years ago
Ok so your saying I should stop holding my breath  ;)
Thanks for the heads up lol
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 11, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
Dan I am going on arriving this Sunday to waldorf traveling with a 5 month old baby any tips in regards  to cribs? Room sizes or anything else?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: vintastic16 on March 11, 2015, 10:19:40 PM
Dan I am going on arriving this Sunday to waldorf traveling with a 5 month old baby any tips in regards  to cribs? Room sizes or anything else?

Crib is your standard small roll away. Baby should be comfortable in it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 12, 2015, 12:19:43 AM
Crib is your standard small roll away. Baby should be comfortable in it.
Thank you
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 16, 2015, 07:18:56 PM
Got to waldorf today so far it is great we got upgrade to grand luxe suite which is smaller than a junior but it is an unbelievable room setup wise much bigger than the regular room two sinks in bathroom big tub in middle of bathroom I will post pictures right after morning cleanup tomorrow definitely a great option if you can't get upgraded to a suite
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: kangarruu on March 17, 2015, 02:39:34 AM
Got to waldorf today so far it is great we got upgrade to grand luxe suite which is smaller than a junior but it is an unbelievable room setup wise much bigger than the regular room two sinks in bathroom big tub in middle of bathroom I will post pictures right after morning cleanup tomorrow definitely a great option if you can't get upgraded to a suite

We'll be there from Wednesday. Was the upgrade automatic or did you help them along, so to speak?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 17, 2015, 03:19:40 AM
Actually we asked for one when we got there and nothing doing We checked into the deluxe balcony and then the called us 20 min later and said would you like an upgrade and of course we did
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zow on March 24, 2015, 10:48:13 PM
I received a Waldorf Astoria Be My Guest Certificate from the WA NYC (they messed with my HH account and gave me this comp certificate).  I want to use it at WA Jerusalem. I have never had any of the Hilton BMG certs, but from what I read, it sounds like the same thing, except this one is specifically labeled WA.  There are no instructions on how to book a room with it. I tried online but couldn't find a place to enter the cert #.  I called the 800 # but the agent said I need to contact the hotel directly.  Is that the only option?  Someone above said they are good with email...should I go that route?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on March 24, 2015, 11:41:12 PM
Never heard of a BMG certificate.
Can anyone elaborate please ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on March 25, 2015, 04:50:35 AM
Never heard of a BMG certificate.
Can anyone elaborate please ?
It's a a certificate they someone give out after a bad experience to try to make up for it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on March 25, 2015, 04:51:29 AM
I received a Waldorf Astoria Be My Guest Certificate from the WA NYC (they messed with my HH account and gave me this comp certificate).  I want to use it at WA Jerusalem. I have never had any of the Hilton BMG certs, but from what I read, it sounds like the same thing, except this one is specifically labeled WA.  There are no instructions on how to book a room with it. I tried online but couldn't find a place to enter the cert #.  I called the 800 # but the agent said I need to contact the hotel directly.  Is that the only option?  Someone above said they are good with email...should I go that route?
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure you can book any standard room and by check-in just give them this
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: avrumy22 on March 25, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
hmmm, how many points do you think they used?  :P

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193169#.VRLvUI7F8u8
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zow on March 25, 2015, 05:25:41 PM
I'm pretty sure you can book any standard room and by check-in just give them this

Ok, Emkay, thank you. Can I tell tell them I spoke with you?  ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zow on March 25, 2015, 05:36:52 PM
I know this question will expose my naivete, but can I ask:

When a hotel like the WA describes a room as "twin" (or, in this case, "twin deluxe"), can I expect the two beds to be "full-size" or double beds?  I don't expect queens, but I'm hoping they don't have true "twin" beds.  I have stayed in low-mid range hotels in Europe and, in fact, that's what they had.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 25, 2015, 06:25:26 PM
Twin
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on March 25, 2015, 06:25:55 PM
But American standard not israeli
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zow on March 25, 2015, 08:52:02 PM
But American standard not israeli
Twin

Thanks. Not the answer I was hoping for. But thanks.  :-\
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 19, 2015, 07:13:05 PM
I saw mixed reviews on FT,
Does the wa officially offer breakfast on award stays?
What do they charge for parking?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chucksterace on April 19, 2015, 07:18:00 PM

I saw mixed reviews on FT,
Does the wa officially offer breakfast on award stays?
What do they charge for parking?

Yes free breakfast on award stays
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on April 19, 2015, 07:26:09 PM


What do they charge for parking?
Parking,both valet & self,is free. Contrary to what their website says.
Yes free breakfast on award stays
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 19, 2015, 11:29:20 PM
I saw mixed reviews on FT,
Does the wa officially offer breakfast on award stays?
What do they charge for parking?
Free breakfast, upthread they were talking about the parking.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moshe_m on April 19, 2015, 11:34:35 PM
They told me you have to pay for breakfast
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 19, 2015, 11:35:34 PM
They told me you have to pay for breakfast
incorrect
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 19, 2015, 11:48:19 PM
They told me you have to pay for breakfast
That's what they tell you when you email them, I don't understand why they give out mixed info about everything
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 19, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
That's what they tell you when you email them, I don't understand why they give out mixed info about everything
whatever it is, the breakfast is free.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: hvaces42 on April 19, 2015, 11:52:26 PM
That's what they tell you when you email them, I don't understand why they give out mixed info about everything
Ummmm...could the country in which its located be the cause. Nooooo, don't tell me they try to squeeze you for every dollar. Typical Israeli-style hondeling.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 20, 2015, 12:35:36 AM
Ummmm...could the country in which its located be the cause. Nooooo, don't tell me they try to squeeze you for every dollar. Typical Israeli-style hondeling.
truth is I did also get other confusing info  from them, so clearly everyone there isnt on the same page.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: eli1571 on April 20, 2015, 05:27:39 AM
Never heard of a BMG certificate.
Can anyone elaborate please ?
thought lakewood bmg started giving out free nights.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 20, 2015, 09:07:19 AM
thought lakewood bmg started giving out free nights.
is that a joke?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sharabob on April 20, 2015, 09:41:00 AM
Nooooo, don't tell me they try to squeeze you for every dollar.

As opposed to just about every DD'r who never try and squeeze every corporation\bank\retailer for any exploit they can find?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: rileywiles23 on April 20, 2015, 01:33:11 PM

As opposed to just about every DD'r who never try and squeeze every corporation\bank\retailer for any exploit they can find?
What's the connection between the two ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sharabob on April 20, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
What's the connection between the two ?
קשוט עצמך ואחר קשוט אחרים
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on April 20, 2015, 05:11:13 PM

Ummmm...could the country in which its located be the cause. Nooooo, don't tell me they try to squeeze you for every dollar. Typical Israeli-style hondeling.
As opposed to just about every DD'r who never try and squeeze every corporation\bank\retailer for any exploit they can find?

Yes but can you imagine a country full of only DD'ers...:p
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 20, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
Yes but can you imagine a country full of only DD'ers...:p
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sharabob on April 20, 2015, 08:25:58 PM
Yes but can you imagine a country full of only DD'ers...:p
Hmmm.... I get your point  ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on April 21, 2015, 12:17:18 PM
I'm sorry to bring this up again but I'm not managing to find a clear answer from my phone, what is the Waldorf's hechsher?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on April 21, 2015, 12:18:26 PM
I'm sorry to bring this up again but I'm not managing to find a clear answer from my phone, what is the Waldorf's hechsher?
there is none
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on April 21, 2015, 12:24:42 PM

there is none

Oh.... Now I get it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 21, 2015, 12:39:14 PM
there is none
officaly regular rabbanut
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 21, 2015, 12:39:48 PM
search upthread if you would like more info
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: CS91 on April 21, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
Anyone know if Yeezus wrote a trip report from when he stayed there?  ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on April 21, 2015, 01:05:43 PM
officaly regular rabbanut
Is that "officially" cryptic code?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on April 21, 2015, 01:12:11 PM
Guys
Don't want to eat there, don't !
But to reply with misinformation "there is none" when there is a mashgiach temidi on site all the time is wrong.
The meat is rabanot and it is only a  might be rabanot (might be as far as anyone's research they are mehadrin)

If you eat at ou restaurants around the continental usa the this hashgacha is perfect for you.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on April 21, 2015, 01:14:20 PM
to clarify, I was not responding "there is none" to whether there's a hechsher or not. I was responding to the fact if there's a clear answer.

and that can be seen by the fact that I bolded when I quoted his post
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on April 21, 2015, 01:15:20 PM
to clarify, I was not responding "there is none" to whether there's a hechsher or not. I was responding to the fact if there's a clear answer.

and that can be seen by the fact that I bolded when I quoted his post
Fair enough
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2015, 01:16:58 PM
Don't see what's not clear exactly.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: normaly2345 on April 21, 2015, 01:36:18 PM
From what I heard the rabbanut is worse then the ou
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2015, 01:46:38 PM
From what I heard the rabbanut is worse then the ou
Except that none of the food served is plain rabanut.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on April 21, 2015, 04:03:38 PM
to clarify, I was not responding "there is none" to whether there's a hechsher or not. I was responding to the fact if there's a clear answer.

and that can be seen by the fact that I bolded when I quoted his post
im not sure whats not clear. the hechser is indisputably rabbanut
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on April 21, 2015, 04:04:52 PM

If you eat at ou restaurants around the continental usa the this hashgacha is perfect for you.
that is a blanket statement that your not entitled to make as is evident by the very fact that you made it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mo85 on April 21, 2015, 04:48:46 PM
I am trying to book a weekend certificate for May 8 and 9th. Online there are no standard rooms available for may8. Is there anyway to still book a room?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mo85 on April 21, 2015, 04:52:39 PM
I think so.

They also gave me a crib and a (regular-size bed) rollaway btw (no charge).

When you make the reservation, you won't be able to add more than 2 ppl/room though.

But read through this thread, and you'll find some experiences.
Did anyone try this same thing with the crowne plaza?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 21, 2015, 05:44:12 PM
I am trying to book a weekend certificate for May 8 and 9th. Online there are no standard rooms available for may8. Is there anyway to still book a room?
AFAIK no
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on April 21, 2015, 07:39:18 PM
I am trying to book a weekend certificate for May 8 and 9th. Online there are no standard rooms available for may8. Is there anyway to still book a room?
PUTPAC
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 21, 2015, 08:12:59 PM
Is that "officially" cryptic code?
No.

The hechsher is rabanut.

The products that are used are held to a higher standard.

Supposedly the reason the Hashgocha isn't better is because they rent it out for non-kosher events.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 21, 2015, 08:16:57 PM
Does anyone have any reports about shabbos meals?
sounds crazy expensive to me, Is it worth the price tag?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on April 21, 2015, 08:34:58 PM

No.

The hechsher is rabanut.

The products that are used are held to a higher standard.

Supposedly the reason the Hashgocha isn't better is because they rent it out for non-kosher events.

After a PUTPAC I was informed it's Rabanut Mehadrin, I will reverify in the AM.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on April 21, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
No.

The hechsher is rabanut.

The products that are used are held to a higher standard.

Supposedly the reason the Hashgocha isn't better is because they rent it out for non-kosher events.

Nicely said.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on April 21, 2015, 08:36:27 PM
Does anyone have any reports about shabbos meals?
sounds crazy expensive to me, Is it worth the price tag?

100 a meal
Well worth it
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 21, 2015, 08:53:47 PM
100 a meal
Well worth it
How much do they charge for kids?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 21, 2015, 09:20:02 PM
How much do they charge for kids?
$75 IIRC
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2015, 09:26:09 PM
Friday night was $110/adult and Rafi (3)+Talia (1) were free.
I'd give it a 7/10. 

Breakfast and dinner at the dairy restaurant are both 9/10.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: lunatic on April 21, 2015, 09:29:04 PM
Friday night was $110/adult and Rafi (3)+Talia (1) were free.
I'd give it a 7/10. 

Breakfast and dinner at the dairy restaurant are both 9/10.

Are we ever gonna get a TR? ☺
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2015, 09:32:41 PM
Eventually.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on April 21, 2015, 09:45:49 PM
Friday night was $110/adult and Rafi (3)+Talia (1) were free.
I'd give it a 7/10. 

Breakfast and dinner at the dairy restaurant are both 9/10.

POIDH
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: mgarfin on April 21, 2015, 10:42:12 PM
Eventually.

At least its going to come!!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on April 21, 2015, 11:27:03 PM
At least its going to come!!
don't hold your breath
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: lunatic on April 21, 2015, 11:28:35 PM
don't hold your breath
Maybe if AJK goes there, we can have another race
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on April 22, 2015, 12:04:20 AM
I ate Friday night there on two separate trips a year apart from each other  the most recent  the food was a lot better than the time before with a lot of selection such as lamb and surprisingly even had very culture specific food like Syrian Jewish  delicacies (as we are Syrian) which was a nice touch.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 22, 2015, 12:16:29 AM
I ate Friday night there on two separate trips a year apart from each other  the most recent  the food was a lot better than the time before with a lot of selection such as lamb and surprisingly even had very culture specific food like Syrian Jewish  delicacies (as we are Syrian) which was a nice touch.
I think I still taste that lamb actually ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on April 22, 2015, 12:16:43 AM
Maybe if AJK goes there, we can have another race

Iyh
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on April 22, 2015, 12:18:11 AM
Iyh
We are not waiting till succos for a TR
Protest
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on April 22, 2015, 12:19:47 AM
Submit a complaint to management. Each is addressed in the order in which it is received.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: elya on April 22, 2015, 12:50:41 AM
that is a blanket statement that your not entitled to make as is evident by the very fact that you made it
+1000
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 22, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
+1000
exactly, everyone should find out the facts and then ask their LOR.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on April 22, 2015, 09:25:00 AM

No.

The hechsher is rabanut.

The products that are used are held to a higher standard.

Supposedly the reason the Hashgocha isn't better is because they rent it out for non-kosher events.
Not non- kosher ,
Just they serve other hechsherim.

And because of in-room meals or st..
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: clear thinker on April 27, 2015, 01:54:20 PM
I am trying to book a weekend certificate for May 8 and 9th. Online there are no standard rooms available for may8. Is there anyway to still book a room?
Did u get anything in the end?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: normaly2345 on April 27, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
The rooms that you book with the free night have 2 beds or 1?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: eli1571 on April 27, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
The rooms that you book with the free night have 2 beds or 1?
prob whatever you request.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on April 27, 2015, 08:53:39 PM
The rooms that you book with the free night have 2 beds or 1?
You can request the bed type.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on April 27, 2015, 11:22:56 PM
You can get 2 beds but they are somewhat attached.
Only Israel... >:(
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zow on April 27, 2015, 11:30:31 PM
You can get 2 beds but they are somewhat attached.
Only Israel... >:(

Or, you can get a king bed, but the twin pieces are separated.
Only Israel.  ::)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 27, 2015, 11:33:53 PM
You can get 2 beds but they are somewhat attached.
Only Israel... >:(
you just pull them apart
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on April 28, 2015, 12:00:28 AM
You cant pull them apart. The headboard attached.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 28, 2015, 12:27:01 AM
You cant pull them apart. The headboard attached.
I pulled them apart in February...  Don't know about the headboard though
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mo85 on April 28, 2015, 11:15:35 AM
Did u get anything in the end?
Not yet. Online, it is showing either no rooms left, or only higher end rooms. I a checking a few times a day.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: clear thinker on April 28, 2015, 11:39:27 AM
Not yet. Online, it is showing either no rooms left, or only higher end rooms. I a checking a few times a day.
I don't find anything online!
Where do u see anything available?
Checking in on the 9th does have availability.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Proisrael on April 28, 2015, 04:17:45 PM
I pulled them apart in February...  Don't know about the headboard though

Ah that explains the broken headboard in my room.....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on April 28, 2015, 04:29:42 PM
Ah that explains the broken headboard in my room.....

lol
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 28, 2015, 04:32:20 PM
Ah that explains the broken headboard in my room.....
;D ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on April 28, 2015, 11:39:04 PM
How many kids can I get in a room besides for the 2 adults? 3 year old, 5 year old, 9 year old. I'm asking what the hotel lets, not sneaking in etc.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 29, 2015, 12:26:25 AM
How many kids can I get in a room besides for the 2 adults? 3 year old, 5 year old, 9 year old. I'm asking what the hotel lets, not sneaking in etc.
YMMV
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on April 29, 2015, 12:47:00 AM
YMMV
Figured. I'm assuming people had experience with this looking for some feed back.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 29, 2015, 09:20:01 AM
Figured. I'm assuming people had experience with this looking for some feed back.
We just put 2 kids in the same bed,, and for those old enough we just got a cot, though concierge tries to charge for that IIRC
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: kangarruu on April 29, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
How many kids can I get in a room besides for the 2 adults? 3 year old, 5 year old, 9 year old. I'm asking what the hotel lets, not sneaking in etc.

We only had one child, so I can't speak to how many can come. They didn't try to charge us for an extra bed in the regular room. The junior suites have a pull-out couch.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MLM on April 29, 2015, 12:51:47 PM
Did anyone get a rollaway bed in a superior room? I got one in a Deluxe last year.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ari2955 on April 29, 2015, 02:02:02 PM
No.

The hechsher is rabanut.

The products that are used are held to a higher standard.

Supposedly the reason the Hashgocha isn't better is because they rent it out for non-kosher events.

Meaning what, mihadrin? All products?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zer0k1 on April 30, 2015, 04:01:06 PM
would be good if someone good update the wiki to list the best way to book with points
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on April 30, 2015, 04:11:11 PM
would be good if someone good update the wiki to list the best way to book with points
Other than HH?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ari2955 on May 01, 2015, 07:15:34 PM
Other than HH?

Rate is 80k per night, correct? And is this for both weekdays and weekends?

Do free night certificate's still work? And do they get the same value as points (i.e. Availibility, room type) ? 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Hlnsa on May 02, 2015, 10:49:26 PM
we r thinking to stay at the waldorf or at the king david on amex platinum fine hotels they are equally priced. can anyone please give their opinion for each hotel? also, is there a less expensive booking site?
thank you
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Hlnsa on May 02, 2015, 10:51:33 PM
I ate Friday night there on two separate trips a year apart from each other  the most recent  the food was a lot better than the time before with a lot of selection such as lamb and surprisingly even had very culture specific food like Syrian Jewish  delicacies (as we are Syrian) which was a nice touch.
we r also syrian do u feel this is a nicer hotel, i see the rooms are larger, then the king david?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Elshal on May 03, 2015, 04:53:30 PM
I've stayed at both the Waldorf is newer and new is always better and that is even more true  tenfold in israel.
All kidding aside besides for the pro of the king David's awesome pool area the Waldorf is better in all other aspects
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on May 04, 2015, 01:44:58 AM
I've stayed at both the Waldorf is newer and new is always better and that is even more true  tenfold in israel.
All kidding aside besides for the pro of the king David's awesome pool area the Waldorf is better in all other aspects

Having stayed at all 3, I'd probably opt for the Citadel Apr-Oct and the Waldorf Nov-March

Hard to beat eating breakfast on the terrace at the Citadel and everything else pretty close once you factor in the larger, renovated rooms at the Citadel and the fact that the Waldorf rooms are tiring rather quickly

Never enjoyed the King David as much because of the Hechsher and the fact that they treat all Charedi looking people like Schnorrers
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mocha on May 04, 2015, 07:27:30 AM
Anyone know how far in advance awards become available? i want to secure rooms for next year shavuos which isn't open yet for booking but i did a dummy booking in april 2016 and no award nights were available.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mocha on May 04, 2015, 10:59:36 AM
Too add to my previous post with another question does anyone know how flexible the hotel is with really late checkouts? (like after shabb/YT during summer months)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shiframeir on May 04, 2015, 10:12:30 PM
Too add to my previous post with another question does anyone know how flexible the hotel is with really late checkouts? (like after shabb/YT during summer months)
they are fine for shabbos late checkout at least (stayed on a one night friday night stay and i checked out an hour after shabbos in August, like around 8pmish iirc). wonder if second day yom tov on a points stay may be an issue.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on May 07, 2015, 07:22:57 PM
I know this has been discussed before and I really don't want to get this popping (thats a lie) but I just had a discussion with someone who is in the know and was informed why they only have a rabbanuit hechsher and told me there is nothing to worry about...
he also discussed the kashrus with a mashgiach and told me that they do their own shechta run.

I don't advise you to take advice from someone online about what you should or shouldn't eat but I wanted to share.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: elya on May 07, 2015, 08:13:45 PM
Everyone is entitled to do as they please.  With that being said, I personally spoke with Rabbi Kuber (he works for the OU in America, and is someone that alot of prominent rabbanim in israel refer their Kashrus questions to.) who told me that although they have good mashgichim, after personally going through the kitchens top to bottom, he unfortunately cannot recommend it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 07, 2015, 11:20:28 PM
Any deals for Shavous?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moshe_m on May 17, 2015, 07:56:20 AM
Im staying in worldof on points
They say no breakfast included did anyone have the same experience?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on May 17, 2015, 08:04:01 AM
Im staying in worldof on points
They say no breakfast included did anyone have the same experience?
Breakfast is included. Call the hotel to confirm. Don't believe the Hilton booking desk.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moshe_m on May 17, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
Breakfast is included. Call the hotel to confirm. Don't believe the Hilton booking desk.
By the front desk they told me its not included there is a charge of 150 nis pp
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on May 17, 2015, 08:17:12 AM
I know this has been discussed before and I really don't want to get this popping (thats a lie) but I just had a discussion with someone who is in the know and was informed why they only have a rabbanuit hechsher and told me there is nothing to worry about...
he also discussed the kashrus with a mashgiach and told me that they do their own shechta run.

I don't advise you to take advice from someone online about what you should or shouldn't eat but I wanted to share.
keep your unverified, untrue, uneducated rumors to yourself  :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on May 17, 2015, 08:21:15 AM

keep your unverified, untrue, uneducated rumors to yourself  :)
The smile makes everything better :P
I respect and trust the person who told me this information very very much, basically what I'm saying is don't just assume it's no good and do your own due diligence.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yochiek93 on May 17, 2015, 09:32:10 AM
Everyone is entitled to do as they please.  With that being said, I personally spoke with Rabbi Kuber (he works for the OU in America, and is someone that alot of prominent rabbanim in israel refer their Kashrus questions to.) who told me that although they have good mashgichim, after personally going through the kitchens top to bottom, he unfortunately cannot recommend it.
if anyone wants r kuber number pm me you can speak to him yourself for all your questions about any hashgacha
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on May 17, 2015, 10:13:11 AM
Breakfast is included. Call the hotel to confirm. Don't believe the Hilton booking desk.
-1 I heard from somebody else who stayed there breakfast was not included. Maybe there cracking down.....
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on May 17, 2015, 10:20:56 AM
-1 I heard from somebody else who stayed there breakfast was not included. Maybe there cracking down.....
I don't know what you mean by cracking down, it was the policy that all rooms came with breakfast for 2. It's possible that changed recently.

Email your concierge.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on May 17, 2015, 10:35:30 AM
-1 I heard from somebody else who stayed there breakfast was not included. Maybe there cracking down.....
I was just there in February... Maybe only for gold members?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on May 17, 2015, 10:35:36 AM
I don't know what you mean by cracking down, it was the policy that all rooms came with breakfast for 2. It's possible that changed recently.

Email your concierge.
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on May 17, 2015, 10:53:10 AM
if anyone wants r kuber number pm me you can speak to him yourself for all your questions about any hashgacha
Are you insinuating that it's fine or just offering his number?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yochiek93 on May 17, 2015, 10:55:52 AM
Are you insinuating that it's fine or just offering his number?
just offering his number let everyone decide for themelves
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: kangarruu on May 17, 2015, 11:11:52 AM
-1 I heard from somebody else who stayed there breakfast was not included. Maybe there cracking down.....

We were there in March and breakfast was included. Award stay, Gold status.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on May 17, 2015, 12:40:15 PM
just offering his number let everyone decide for themelves
if anyone wants to eat there they def should not call him
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yochiek93 on May 17, 2015, 12:42:47 PM
He doesn't just say yes or no everyone to his standards you tell him what hashgachas you hold of and with that he answers you
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on May 17, 2015, 01:25:22 PM
We were there in March and breakfast was included. Award stay, Gold status.

Just spoke to front desk and they said that on award bookings breakfast is free for Gold and Diamond but I recommend calling before with your specific reservation to make sure.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on May 17, 2015, 02:52:27 PM
I don't know what you mean by cracking down, it was the policy that all rooms came with breakfast for 2. It's possible that changed recently.

Email your concierge.
I was under the impression that it was only for gold and diamond members officially but everybody was just taking. Had somebody stay 3 nights, 2 gold 1 silver, got charged breakfast for 1 silver.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moshe_m on May 22, 2015, 10:37:57 AM
To clarify you still get breakfast but only on gold & diamond not silver
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on May 31, 2015, 03:45:51 PM
You can request the bed type.

Booked a king, the twin rooms charge more points.

How do you request a twin? I emailed the address on their site but no response.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on June 09, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
re kids - FWIW, I just spoke with a manager and he said that even though the max per room is 3, I could have 2 kids in the room (with 2 adults) as long as I didn't need both a crib and a cot.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dgindi on June 10, 2015, 10:23:34 AM
re kids - FWIW, I just spoke with a manager and he said that even though the max per room is 3, I could have 2 kids in the room (with 2 adults) as long as I didn't need both a crib and a cot.
Dave A, what dates did u book? maybe we will be there at the same time?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on June 10, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
Dave A, what dates did u book? maybe we will be there at the same time?

July 4th weekend
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dgindi on June 10, 2015, 03:42:54 PM
July 4th weekend
ah just missed ya. Oh well.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on June 14, 2015, 03:15:31 PM
Just spotted the latest review on TA...does anyone get what he means about very religious Jews and kids?  :o

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g293983-d2141296-r279936284-Waldorf_Astoria_Jerusalem-Jerusalem_Jerusalem_District.html#review279936284
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on June 14, 2015, 03:32:03 PM
Just spotted the latest review on TA...does anyone get what he means about very religious Jews and kids?  :o

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g293983-d2141296-r279936284-Waldorf_Astoria_Jerusalem-Jerusalem_Jerusalem_District.html#review279936284
Don't let every grumpy man online faze you.
From his other reviews "I'm a grumpy reviewer; I tend to focus on the negative."
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on June 14, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
My issue wasn't his grumpy review...just didn't get his comment about religious Jews and kids. Thought it was a bit incongruous...

Me personally...I love the Waldorf and cant wait to go back!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on June 14, 2015, 04:30:53 PM
My issue wasn't his grumpy review...just didn't get his comment about religious Jews and kids. Thought it was a bit incongruous...

Me personally...I love the Waldorf and cant wait to go back!
+1 same here
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on June 15, 2015, 11:20:54 AM
Just spotted the latest review on TA...does anyone get what he means about very religious Jews and kids?  :o

http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g293983-d2141296-r279936284-Waldorf_Astoria_Jerusalem-Jerusalem_Jerusalem_District.html#review279936284

I don't blame him one bit
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on June 15, 2015, 12:00:44 PM
I don't blame him one bit
Which part?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Theodorel on June 15, 2015, 08:15:05 PM
How much are the meals in the Waldorf over shabbos? Fri night and shabbos day.?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: kangarruu on June 15, 2015, 08:33:35 PM
How much are the meals in the Waldorf over shabbos? Fri night and shabbos day.?

I don't remember what they quoted, but it was over $100 per person per meal. We were pleasantly surprised to find that (included, at least for Golds) Shabbos breakfast included challah, grape juice, and hot kugels.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on June 15, 2015, 11:30:38 PM
I don't remember what they quoted, but it was over $100 per person per meal. We were pleasantly surprised to find that (included, at least for Golds) Shabbos breakfast included challah, grape juice, and hot kugels.

Was that including kids?  Any "up to" age that was free?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on June 17, 2015, 11:50:38 PM
How much are the meals in the Waldorf over shabbos? Fri night and shabbos day.?
Shabbos breakfast is free (maybe only for gold members?)

the price for the meals when I was there in february was $115 per person per meal

IIRC kids were charged 75% off the adult price
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Theodorel on June 17, 2015, 11:57:32 PM
Shabbos breakfast is free (maybe only for gold members?)

the price for the meals when I was there in february was $115 per person per meal

IIRC kids were charged 75% off the adult price
What about regular breakfast?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 18, 2015, 02:41:01 AM
I plan on using miles to take my wife for 10 yr anniversary.

1) I know ppl are saying the hechsher is rabbanut; that doesn't mean all foods served is rabbanut, ie: dairy products usually have a badatz on it. Im not saying to eat their food; I am chareidi and don't eat rannanut... Wanted to know regarding the breakfasts: do they open all the products ad put it in large dishes for all to take or it's all individually closed, like gevina levana, puddings, cheeses, etc? Meaning, can one take the closed items and eat it or ALL foods are off limits because they take them out of original packaging and there's no way to know what has what hechsher?

2) Do they give special upgrades for couples on special occasions? Anyone have any tips on getting the most out of our stay? The last time we were at a hotel was 10 years ago (we don't get out much!)
,
I have a hilton CC and am a Gold Member. The points I have in my account is 87,500. I found a room for 80k - anything else to do with the other 7.5?

thanks in advance guys/gals!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 18, 2015, 02:42:29 PM
3) Also, wanted to know what the rules were for check in and check out? Are hotels lenient with checking in early and checking out later?  WA says: checkin 3pm, checkout 12pm.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: kangarruu on June 18, 2015, 03:06:23 PM
3) Also, wanted to know what the rules were for check in and check out? Are hotels lenient with checking in early and checking out later?  WA says: checkin 3pm, checkout 12pm.

They gave us late checkout without blinking. They also didn't blink when we asked to change it to an even later checkout (twice!).
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 18, 2015, 03:08:24 PM
They gave us late checkout without blinking. They also didn't blink when we asked to change it to an even later checkout (twice!).
What time is late check out and later check out?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on June 18, 2015, 03:28:05 PM
What time is late check out and later check out?

It really depends on the front desk but you should really call before and ask. We have had really early check-in as we arrived on an early morning flight. Another time they were at 90% occupancy so we had to wait a little till the room was ready but if you call in advance, and tell them you're Gold, and celebrating an anniversary, they will be very accomodating.

With regard to kashrus at breakfast, there are definitely yogurts in their packages but the mashgiach is there on site and should be able to show you everything else.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 18, 2015, 03:31:58 PM
It really depends on the front desk but you should really call before and ask. We have had really early check-in as we arrived on an early morning flight. Another time they were at 90% occupancy so we had to wait a little till the room was ready but if you call in advance, and tell them you're Gold, and celebrating an anniversary, they will be very accomodating.

With regard to kashrus at breakfast, there are definitely yogurts in their packages but the mashgiach is there on site and should be able to show you everything else.
thanks for taking the time to read/write.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on June 18, 2015, 03:43:10 PM
It really depends on the front desk but you should really call before and ask. We have had really early check-in as we arrived on an early morning flight. Another time they were at 90% occupancy so we had to wait a little till the room was ready but if you call in advance, and tell them you're Gold, and celebrating an anniversary, they will be very accomodating.

With regard to kashrus at breakfast, there are definitely yogurts in their packages but the mashgiach is there on site and should be able to show you everything else.
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: danR on June 18, 2015, 06:19:32 PM
I got upgraded to a suite last year for our anniversary
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MosheD on June 18, 2015, 09:06:55 PM
Also emailing/calling before will definitly improve your chances
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 19, 2015, 01:30:26 AM
Will do. When booking, there was a slot for comments, so I mentioned it the 10 yr anni and upgrade.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yochiek93 on June 19, 2015, 07:26:36 AM
Will do. When booking, there was a slot for comments, so I mentioned it the 10 yr anni and upgrade.
good luck enjoy
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on June 19, 2015, 07:31:04 AM
I still think you should call and talk to someone to confirm and request early check-in!

Mazel tov btw!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: peacenlove613 on June 19, 2015, 09:54:17 AM
Does anyone know if the shabbos elevator uses max power? Or does it operate normally just stops on every floor? I got upgraded to a suite on the 9th floor really rather not have to walk.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 19, 2015, 10:13:25 AM
Does anyone know if the shabbos elevator uses max power? Or does it operate normally just stops on every floor? I got upgraded to a suite on the 9th floor really rather not have to walk.
Nice. DId you ask for it or they offered?

Thank to all your good wishes, guys.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: peacenlove613 on June 19, 2015, 10:33:55 AM
I emailed the manager before I left. Never heard back but when I checked in I asked and they said that already upgrades me to a deluxe room on the 3rd floor. When the guy brought me to my room they were still cleaning it. He was very apologetic so I asked if there are any other rooms available and he offered me a suite with a balcony  on the ninth floor overlooking the old city. But now I need to figure out if I can use the shabbos elevator.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on June 19, 2015, 10:35:58 AM
Is walking 9 flights that big of a deal?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on June 19, 2015, 10:40:15 AM
Is walking 9 flights that big of a deal?
It is when you have 8 month old triplets
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on June 19, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Is walking 9 flights that big of a deal?
Ummmm, for some people, yes. Depends what the scale shows when you step on it...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: 12HRS on June 19, 2015, 10:41:51 AM
Ummmm, for some people, yes. Depends what the scale shows when you step on it...

ya but the scale will show less after the 9 flights
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on June 19, 2015, 10:44:29 AM
Ask your LOR, but the halacha will vary based on a healthy adult vs a mother with young kids or someone elderly.

FWIW, Rafi begged to keep going up and down the stairs at the Waldorf on the shabbos we were there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on June 19, 2015, 10:46:33 AM
FWIW, Rafi begged to keep going up and down the stairs at the Waldorf on the shabbos we were there.
What floor did you stay at?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on June 19, 2015, 10:48:31 AM
Don't recall the floor, but Rafi counted to about 150 steps :)

Maybe 7?
Though in CNX we've done 15 floors.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on June 19, 2015, 10:54:36 AM
Don't recall the floor, but Rafi counted to about 150 steps :)

Maybe 7?
Though in CNX we've done 15 floors.
In CNX they gave us floor 17 but I got them to open a room on 11. They assigned us the most obese security guard to walk us up, he was 85% dead by the time we got there
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: MosheD on June 20, 2015, 07:41:05 PM
In CNX they gave us floor 17 but I got them to open a room on 11. They assigned us the most obese security guard to walk us up, he was 85% dead by the time we got there
Lol
In the le meridan dead sea days I one time got 19th
Also btw, I have friends that live in manhatten and live quite a way up and do it every week...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: User6669 on June 20, 2015, 09:14:55 PM
In CNX they gave us floor 17 but I got them to open a room on 11. They assigned us the most obese security guard to walk us up, he was 85% dead by the time we got there

A guard for what?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 20, 2015, 11:19:20 PM
Lol
In the le meridan dead sea days I one time got 19th
Also btw, I have friends that live in manhatten and live quite a way up and do it every week...
In our neighborhood you got women living on the 5-8th floor with no elevators bouncing up a double stroller with groceries. It's crazy. Never wanted to buy an apartment more than 1 floor up. ---yea, realized, we've moved on frm the Walfdorf to apartments in Israel, lol
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dr Moose on June 21, 2015, 12:44:45 AM
A guard for what?
ah, I guess you never met Emkay. Whenever he travels, he takes a guard with him for security reasons.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Theodorel on June 21, 2015, 03:09:23 AM
Is walking 9 flights that big of a deal?
Just stayed on 9tg floor this past shabbos... Regarding walking, well I only walked down not up.... So no big deal
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jm1248 on June 21, 2015, 03:16:24 AM
Lol
In the le meridan dead sea days I one time got 19th
Also btw, I have friends that live in manhatten and live quite a way up and do it every week...
I lived in 5th floor apt in Israel for a year with no elevator at all
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on June 21, 2015, 03:22:17 AM
A guard for what?
They don't let you walk up the staircase alone for security reason's
ah, I guess you never met Emkay. Whenever he travels, he takes a guard with him for security reasons.


Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on June 21, 2015, 04:54:48 AM
I emailed the manager before I left. Never heard back but when I checked in I asked and they said that already upgrades me to a deluxe room on the 3rd floor. When the guy brought me to my room they were still cleaning it. He was very apologetic so I asked if there are any other rooms available and he offered me a suite with a balcony  on the ninth floor overlooking the old city. But now I need to figure out if I can use the shabbos elevator.
nice, what kind of suite was a it? a one bedroom suite?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: davidd75 on June 29, 2015, 03:12:28 PM
It appears that even though I live in the USA since I have an Israeli passport I will be hit with the VAT tax at the Waldorf >:(  Would this be applicable for award stays(free night certificate) as well? If so any workarounds?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 29, 2015, 03:15:58 PM
Tax is a percentage so will be 0 on non rev nights
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 29, 2015, 03:21:11 PM
I emailed WA and mentioned I would like an upgrade for my anni. They said it depends on availability.. however, they will give me two glasses of champagne with a small piece of cake. I emailed back saying Unfortunately I don't eat the Hotel's hechsher, but I am still looking forward to a free upgrade. (Obviously this was all said with a lot of respect and politeness.) Hoping for a nice upgrade and early check in/late check out.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on June 29, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
I emailed WA and mentioned I would like an upgrade for my anni. They said it depends on availability.. however, they will give me two glasses of champagne with a small piece of cake. I emailed back saying Unfortunately I don't eat the Hotel's hechsher, but I am still looking forward to a free upgrade. (Obviously this was all said with a lot of respect and politeness.) Hoping for a nice upgrade and early check in/late check out.
Keep us posted with what ends up happening.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on June 29, 2015, 03:39:32 PM
Keep us posted with what ends up happening.
will do :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: tzifanya54 on June 30, 2015, 01:21:11 AM
Just stayed on 9tg floor this past shabbos... Regarding walking, well I only walked down not up.... So no big deal
I had the 29th floor in the westin grand over Shabbos. Three times up over Shabbos...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 01, 2015, 09:04:47 AM
So who brought with a Mechy's chicken wrap and left it in the minibar of the room??  ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 05, 2015, 05:53:24 PM
Friday night was $110/adult and Rafi (3)+Talia (1) were free.
I'd give it a 7/10. 

Breakfast and dinner at the dairy restaurant are both 9/10.

+ 1.  Exact same ratings and experience with same age kids.  Was very impressed that dinner for the 3-yr-old was free, especially since they brought out elaborate dinners for both 3 + 1 yr olds, including fancy desserts.  Also impressed by the room service prices for kids -- fish n' chips and very large pizza for 100 NIS total - kids loved it.

We also requested an upgrade before we arrived, and it had already been processed before we got there.  They also brought champagne + cake for our anniversary (I see that's been noted here by others, too).  The room was huge and they were happy to accommodate 2 kids + 2 adults despite the official "3 in a room" policy.      Everyone knew our names as we entered/exited the hotel, and they really went out of their way to make sure everything was perfect.  Can't say enough about this hotel and can't say thanks enough to Dan for helping me plan a luxurious trip for 4 to Israel for free!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Geshmak25 on July 05, 2015, 11:47:23 PM
Is there a thread that lists the different award stay options in Jerusalem?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 05, 2015, 11:55:00 PM
Is there a thread that lists the different award stay options in Jerusalem?

Awardmapper.com
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: kangarruu on July 05, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
Is there a thread that lists the different award stay options in Jerusalem?

http://www.awardmapper.com/ (http://www.awardmapper.com/)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on July 06, 2015, 12:15:00 AM
Is there a thread that lists the different award stay options in Jerusalem?
http://wandr.me/Hotel-Tools/Hotel-Hustle/
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 06, 2015, 01:16:06 AM
They also brought champagne + cake for our anniversary (I see that's been noted here by others, too).
1) Did they leave the bottle of champagne in the room or they just poured it in glasses? I want to know the hechsher.
2) Also, does the cake come in packaging or it's a piece on a plate?  Because they said they'd do the same for us...
3) And regarding breakfast; Were there items in it's own packaging or do they scoop everything out and put it in serving dishes?
4) Has anyone spoken to the mashgiach about hechsher? I was told it's Rabbanut mehadrin, but most (if not all) ingredients are good hechsher, they just don't want to pay for the 'stamp' of badatz/rubin bc it's expensive. Can anyone verify this? Has anyone looked into it?

Need a response as soon as possible as we're going in the next couple days. Thanks.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 06, 2015, 03:06:50 AM
2) Also, does the cake come in packaging or it's a piece on a plate?  Because they said they'd do the same for us...
i can say with 99% certainty it was a piece on a plate, unpackaged

3) And regarding breakfast; Were there items in it's own packaging or do they scoop everything out and put it in serving dishes?
the only things in its original packaging are the yogurts/puddings
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 06, 2015, 04:44:47 AM
1) Did they leave the bottle of champagne in the room or they just poured it in glasses? I want to know the hechsher.
2) Also, does the cake come in packaging or it's a piece on a plate?  Because they said they'd do the same for us...

Poured into glasses and cake on plate. Although there was also a nice bottle of wine waiting for us in the room with a welcome note.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on July 06, 2015, 12:57:21 PM
Poured into glasses and cake on plate. Although there was also a nice bottle of wine waiting for us in the room with a welcome note.
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smug on July 06, 2015, 01:18:43 PM
hechsher is Rabbanut stam (not mehadrin)  the  meats and chicken are   Rabbanut Mehadrin (i.e. Machpoud and Rabbanut Mehadrin) they try to keep the  products up to Rabbanut Mehadrin standards-including "Triangle k"  enjoy!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 06, 2015, 01:25:23 PM
hechsher is Rabbanut stam (not mehadrin)  the  meats and chicken are   Rabbanut Mehadrin (i.e. Machpoud and Rabbanut Mehadrin) they try to keep the  products up to Rabbanut Mehadrin standards-including "Triangle k"  enjoy!
That sounds very complicated.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on July 06, 2015, 02:17:22 PM


they try to keep the  products up to Rabbanut Mehadrin standards
Try doesn't work for Orthodox Jewish halacha
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 06, 2015, 02:21:03 PM
im surprised to hear they use triangle k.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 06, 2015, 02:22:12 PM
im surprised to hear they use triangle k.
They don't AFAIK.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 06, 2015, 02:24:15 PM
Try doesn't work for Orthodox Jewish halacha
+1

Just got an email to what type of wine they will give. It's http://onlinekosherwine.com/wines/teperberg-moscato-12/

Good to hear we can have the wine :) 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sky121 on July 06, 2015, 02:26:12 PM
im surprised to hear they use triangle k.

I've spoken to many ISRAELIS who hold by it who otherwise eat only what's considered "mehadrin" hechsherim.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 06, 2015, 03:12:05 PM
The hotel's official hechsher is Rabbanut.

However they have a full-time mashgiach that is there to ensure that everything is on a high standard like any mehadrin place and as a result all products they use are from good hechsherim. For example the mashgiach said the the meats and poultry range from Eidah Hachareidis to Rabbanut Mehadrin, depending on the product.

OBVIOUSLY everyone on this thread will have different standards and therefore I do recommend that you call the hotel and speak to mashgiach who will know exactly where every product comes from.

At breakfast the only packaged items are yogurts/lebens and similar.

Also from what I saw the mashgiach is on site the whole time.

Again, the best and most reliable information will come from the very knowledgeable mashgiach - R' Eli Nafcha - his cell number is 0549 509 068.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Got a clue on July 06, 2015, 03:24:19 PM
The hotel's official hechsher is Rabbanut.

However they have a full-time mashgiach that is there to ensure that everything is on a high standard like any mehadrin place and as a result all products they use are from good hechsherim. For example the mashgiach said the the meats and poultry range from Eidah Hachareidis to Rabbanut Mehadrin, depending on the product.

OBVIOUSLY everyone on this thread will have different standards and therefore I do recommend that you call the hotel and speak to mashgiach who will know exactly where every product comes from.

At breakfast the only packaged items are yogurts/lebens and similar.

Also from what I saw the mashgiach is on site the whole time.

Again, the best and most reliable information will come from the very knowledgeable mashgiach - R' Eli Nafcha - his cell number is 0549 509 068.

And probably changes from day to day even for the same product
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 06, 2015, 03:29:13 PM
And probably changes from day to day even for the same product

That may indeed be the case, which is why you should call the mashgiach and find out.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: smug on July 06, 2015, 04:14:27 PM
first of all they do have plain triangle-k  go look. 2 putting a Chasam Sofer Petach Tikva sticker on top of the triangle-k package still makes it triangle-k 3. that guy is not the main mashgiach -they only have one who actually works in the kitchen 
Yes the Reichmans from Toronto did want an upgrade from the Regular Rabbanut but they don't live here and are not really aware what is going on (they hired others and assumed it was taken care of)
Ask any known person in  kashrus who ever took a tour of the kitchen
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on July 06, 2015, 05:03:08 PM


everything is on a high standard like any mehadrin place.
  lol
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 06, 2015, 05:53:22 PM
first of all they do have plain triangle-k  go look.
I will. Which product?

2 putting a Chasam Sofer Petach Tikva sticker on top of the triangle-k package still makes it triangle-k
Duh, that's a serious accusation though

3. that guy is not the main mashgiach -they only have one who actually works in the kitchen 
Main or not is irrelevant... he is either trustworthy or not trustworthy

Yes the Reichmans from Toronto did want an upgrade from the Regular Rabbanut but they don't live here and are not really aware what is going on (they hired others and assumed it was taken care of)
The Reichman who built it lives in Shaare Chesed, not Toronto.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yitrap on July 06, 2015, 05:59:11 PM
The Reichman who built it lives in Shaare Chesed, not Toronto.
He's the one who oversaw the whole project and is managing it but the Toronto ones are the money behind it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 06, 2015, 06:28:58 PM
I've spoken to many ISRAELIS who hold by it who otherwise eat only what's considered "mehadrin" hechsherim.
im not sure what point you are trying to make. that some people in israel are clueless about american hashgachos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 07, 2015, 07:02:57 AM
When, who, and how much are you suppose to tip? (if you even have to tip..)?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on July 07, 2015, 07:44:52 AM
When, who, and how much are you suppose to tip? (if you even have to tip..)?
I was there and didn't tip.... Didn't even think I was supposed to.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on July 07, 2015, 08:41:36 AM
Folks, while I love reading about kashrus in the WA thread, we luckily have a kashrus thread for this stuff.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16659.0

Seriously, every kashrus question in this thread has been brought up and rehashed 50 times.
אין חדש תחת השמש
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AJK on July 07, 2015, 09:46:10 AM
Folks, while I love reading about kashrus in the WA thread, we luckily have a kashrus thread for this stuff.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16659.0

Seriously, every kashrus question in this thread has been brought up and rehashed 50 times.
אין חדש תחת השמש
Amen.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2015, 09:52:25 AM
All I know is if I got to hell for eating at the Waldorf at least I'll have Avremel singing Kremenchuker Berelach in the cell next to mine...
Odd thing was when he came over thinking my kids were his great nephew and niece ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on July 07, 2015, 10:11:00 AM
Time to officially make a Benny F thread.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Let3 on July 07, 2015, 10:11:33 AM
The Reichman who built it lives in Shaare Chesed, not Toronto.
And he is very knowledgable in the Israeli hashgachos!
If he wanted a 'good' hashgacha he would know how/were to find it...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 07, 2015, 10:51:31 AM
And he is very knowledgable in the Israeli hashgachos!
If he wanted a 'good' hashgacha he would know how/were to find it...
Maybe we start a petition to change the hashgacha
We at ddf with our free night certificates are a big part of the business
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 07, 2015, 11:04:22 AM
When, who, and how much are you suppose to tip? (if you even have to tip..)?

You should tip anyone that provides a service to you during your stay. Bell boy who brings up bags, room service, etc. 8-10 NIS is fine. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: User6669 on July 07, 2015, 11:37:47 AM
Maybe we start a petition to change the hashgacha
We at ddf with our free night certificates are a big part of the business

Dan, is not a fan of that at all.



Petitions don't help. They never do. I said the same thing for the various jewish WTP petitions.
There would have been far better ways to spend the thousands of man hours wasted on these things. And there are here as well.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on July 07, 2015, 12:01:55 PM
All I know is if I got to hell for eating at the Waldorf at least I'll have Avremel singing Kremenchuker Berelach in the cell next to mine...
Odd thing was when he came over thinking my kids were his great nephew and niece ;)
AF & BF in the WA...Turned out to be Dan and this guy  ;) :P:
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 07, 2015, 03:42:02 PM
All I know is if I got to hell for eating at the Waldorf at least I'll have Avremel singing Kremenchuker Berelach in the cell next to mine...
Odd thing was when he came over thinking my kids were his great nephew and niece ;)
difference is hes a shogeg  :)

does AF stay there all the time? i was there 2 weeks ago and he was there too
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2015, 03:45:02 PM
difference is hes a shogeg  :)

does AF stay there all the time? i was there 2 weeks ago and he was there too
Shogeg because?

He's a ben bayis there.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 07, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
Shogeg because?

because he doesnt know its not good? just a joke...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2015, 04:20:05 PM
because he doesnt know its not good? just a joke...
Nunu.
I didn't eat there blind, went very high up several chains. If that's all I go to hell for I'll be in good shape.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 07, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
Can anyone chareidi tell me if the cocktails are fine? They have fruit in them but its nachri, no issues of shmita. But there might be other.   ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 07, 2015, 04:41:29 PM
Who told you they're nochri?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jm1248 on July 07, 2015, 05:18:58 PM
Can anyone chareidi tell me if the cocktails are fine? They have fruit in them but its nachri, no issues of shmita. But there might be other.   ?
Why don't you just ask to see the bottles of whatever goes into it?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 07, 2015, 05:22:51 PM
Who told you they're nochri?
waiter. Shouldn't trust him? He's not religious...
Why don't you just ask to see the bottles of whatever goes into it?
BC there's not just one ingredient. It's a "cocktail" of many things...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chossid on July 07, 2015, 05:30:17 PM
Can't believe this hotel thread is close to 100 pages,
Was there in the winter and all I gotta say is I'm totally  unimpressed, it's way way over priced
The breakfast that everyone is moaning about doesn't compare to hotels in telaviv that charge half price for a stay, in my opinion it's all about the name, and happens to be that the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan put this one to shame
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 07, 2015, 05:46:08 PM
Can't believe this hotel thread is close to 100 pages,
Was there in the winter and all I gotta say is I'm totally  unimpressed, it's way way over priced
The breakfast that everyone is moaning about doesn't compare to hotels in telaviv that charge half price for a stay, in my opinion it's all about the name, and happens to be that the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan put this one to shame
no complaints here. Just cost me 80,000 miles.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chossid on July 07, 2015, 05:48:01 PM
That's a heck of a lot points
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: esther gee on July 07, 2015, 05:54:59 PM
Can't believe this hotel thread is close to 100 pages,
Was there in the winter and all I gotta say is I'm totally  unimpressed, it's way way over priced
The breakfast that everyone is moaning about doesn't compare to hotels in telaviv that charge half price for a stay, in my opinion it's all about the name, and happens to be that the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan put this one to shame
WA NYC is a four star property I'm not sure in what way it puts this to shame?
Lot's or people here won't eat the breakfast at Hotels in TLV also AFAIK there are no nice hotels in TLV that charge less than 300/250 SUM/WIN.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on July 07, 2015, 06:12:28 PM
That's a heck of a lot points

Takes just like 25k to spend for it, thats all.
3x per dollar
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 07, 2015, 07:09:28 PM
That's a heck of a lot points
okey, maybe 1 complaint, lol..

Jk, it didn't take long to earn the points. There was a 70k sign up bonus (I think it just came out again... Saw it recently...) $5k within 3 or 6 months, and since I was 5k short, I asked amex if they can give me the 5k. They gave me zero hassle. Easy 80k.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on July 08, 2015, 06:49:41 PM
With everyone bashing the Hechsher, how come i can't find anyone to PM me their room number so that I can enjoy a free breakfast :-\?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on July 08, 2015, 08:06:17 PM
Personally, I liked the breakfast as the Prima Kings better.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: nathan13 on July 09, 2015, 12:49:31 AM
Nunu.
I didn't eat there blind, went very high up several chains. If that's all I go to hell for I'll be in good shape.

I've seen him eating there I guess they will need to prepare a cell for me as well! I'll reserve a cell  near you maybe we can figure out a hell break!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: nathan13 on July 09, 2015, 12:51:17 AM
The food at breakfast isn't the fanciest you can find, the atmosphere and service it's what you get there!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 09, 2015, 02:32:04 AM
With everyone bashing the Hechsher, how come i can't find anyone to PM me their room number so that I can enjoy a free breakfast :-\?
lifnei iver
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: damaxer91 on July 09, 2015, 08:58:29 AM
and happens to be that the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan put this one to shame

Sounds like you've never been to the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jm1248 on July 09, 2015, 09:10:18 AM
Sounds like you've never been to the Waldorf Astoria in Manhattan
+1
Not even any comparison.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 09, 2015, 10:09:26 AM
am i the only one that really like this hotel?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2015, 02:23:25 PM
am i the only one that really like this hotel?
I'm sure I'll enjoy it once i have a chance to stay.
Enjoyed having drinks in the lobby, and hobnobbing with the who's who in Jewish life. (Well, not so much hobnobbing as it was me watching them wondering if they were staying on points or cash.)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2015, 02:36:37 PM
am i the only one that really like this hotel?
I liked it a lot.
It's still Israeli service, but it's very good overall.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 09, 2015, 02:38:32 PM
I was also curious as to what percentage of the people are coming with points, meaning did they take their stays there, away from the Citadel et al, or are they using the opportunity to stay in a nicer place than they normally would because of the award options.

In any case,  all business seems to be good business since even the people staying on award reservations are eating in the restaurants, bring their family for breakfast etc.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 09, 2015, 03:54:06 PM
am i the only one that really like this hotel?
I had a wonderful experience there.

I liked it a lot.
It's still Israeli service, but it's very good overall.
It could be I haven't been in America for a while, so I don't know what your definition of Israeli Service is, but in my books, it was American service.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2015, 03:57:39 PM
I had a wonderful experience there.
It could be I haven't been in America for a while, so I don't know what your definition of Israeli Service is, but in my books, it was American service.
It most certainly is not.  That doesn't mean I didn't thoroughly enjoy the stay, but the service is not 5 star by any stretch.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 09, 2015, 03:58:51 PM
i have to agree somewhat, the service is better than typical israeli service
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2015, 03:59:52 PM
i have to agree somewhat, the service is better than typical israeli service
For sure. But typical Israeli service is typified by this:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/s960x960/11722576_10153026263022404_8673160540505255164_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 09, 2015, 04:08:36 PM
I had a wonderful experience there.
It could be I haven't been in America for a while, so I don't know what your definition of Israeli Service is, but in my books, it was American service.
Did you get upgraded?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 09, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
Anybody hear of Sukkos deals?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 09, 2015, 04:14:13 PM
Did you get upgraded?
from King Superior to King Deluxe. Not even sure of the difference. 7th floor. The only problem I had with the room was that it was a view of construction and a cemetery. But if you keep the shades closed, it's fine. We left them closed almost the whole time.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 09, 2015, 04:21:43 PM
I'm planning of staying a couple nights with 2 kids and a baby.
But for the first night I only have 1 room.
Could it work, will they make me any issues?
Will they charge me extra?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Jm1248 on July 09, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
from King Superior to King Deluxe. Not even sure of the difference. 7th floor. The only problem I had with the room was that it was a view of construction and a cemetery. But if you keep the shades closed, it's fine. We left them closed almost the whole time.
Only difference I can see online is 2 sq meters bigger  :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 09, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Only difference I can see online is 2 sq meters bigger  :)
That's 2 sq meters extra to throw my stuff around :)

FYI, the things they gave us (in addition to 2 sq meters) was a glass bottle of mineral water, a bottle of wine (sealed), 2 cups of champagne, a piece of cake, complimentary shoes cleaning, 2 vouchers for cocktail or drink (up to 65 sheks each), and a fridge. Oh, and I asked for an extension on check out, so instead of 12pm, it was 4pm.  Generous.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 09, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
I think the difference is that the superior rooms are on the side of the original Palace Hotel, near the staircase, the deluxe rooms are in the new part. The deluxe rooms don't have such high ceilings but are better designed imho.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 09, 2015, 04:43:02 PM
I'm planning of staying a couple nights with 2 kids and a baby.
But for the first night I only have 1 room.
Could it work, will they make me any issues?
Will they charge me extra?

You should be fine and shouldn't have an extra charge.  Especially if you don't check in with all the kids around you ...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 09, 2015, 04:44:15 PM
i have to agree somewhat, the service is better than typical israeli service

+1.  Thought the service was fantastic.  Especially at Friday night dinner.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2015, 04:45:25 PM
+1.  Thought the service was fantastic.  Especially at Friday night dinner.
Heh, our Friday night service was awful, by far the lowlight.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 09, 2015, 04:59:35 PM
we had excellent service by breakfast, far better than anything i have experienced here
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2015, 05:01:39 PM
Yup, I was very pleased at breakfast.
Being kept caffeinated and drunk though may have helped ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 09, 2015, 05:17:15 PM
Heh, our Friday night service was awful, by far the lowlight.

Next time, ask for Jesus a/k/a Jerry as your waiter.  Great service and especially helpful with the little kids.   Anyway, I'm sitting in the Inbal right now where the service all around couldn't be worse, so I'm just grateful for the Waldorf highlight that kickstarted this trip. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on July 09, 2015, 07:17:55 PM
am i the only one that really like this hotel?
I LOVE the Waldorf and I've been to some 5 star hotels.


Service is very good for Israel standerds, you can see that they are really making an effort.

I love the decor and the atmoshphere and I'ts the only hotel I date in.

Plus you get free drinks ;-)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 09, 2015, 07:37:32 PM


Plus you get free drinks ;-)
you do?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on July 09, 2015, 08:01:45 PM
you do?
You do if you meet Dan!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 10, 2015, 09:35:29 AM
I just noticed a charge for $132.66 on my credit card from Waldorf Astoria.

It mentions something about 18% tax on the site, but how do they charge 18% when booking on points? Unless it was for something else, but I can't think of anything else. We didn't take ANYTHING from the hotel. I didn't even take the sample shampoos people always take, lol...

Is it normal to have this charge? Just wanted to know before calling them up.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: chuchem on July 10, 2015, 09:42:49 AM
no, call
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 10, 2015, 09:54:28 AM
Did you check out at the reception before leaving?
Because they would have given you an invoice if you owed anything.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 10, 2015, 09:57:13 AM
Did you check out at the reception before leaving?
Because they would have given you an invoice if you owed anything.
I checked out and they said, "Thank you, you're fine." I assumed it was in regards to owing anything. Seems like I was wrong?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on July 10, 2015, 10:02:20 AM
I would think that means you don't owe anything. Strange.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 10, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
I would think that means you don't owe anything. Strange.
It's pending. I am going to wait until it's charged before calling. Although, I don't see why it will disappear. Usually $1.00 pends and disappears. Yup, strange. No invoice or anything.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 10, 2015, 11:18:41 AM
I didn't even take the sample shampoos people always take, lol...

well i hope youve learned your lesson this time
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 10, 2015, 11:21:31 AM
well i hope youve learned your lesson this time
Wanted to take the slippers.. very comfy. Didn't know if I could.  The robe had a note on it saying it needed to be purchased if I wanted to take it home. Nothing about the slippers though...  Live and I learn :)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 10, 2015, 11:59:19 AM
Wanted to take the slippers.. very comfy. Didn't know if I could.  The robe had a note on it saying it needed to be purchased if I wanted to take it home. Nothing about the slippers though...  Live and I learn :)
those slippers are currently in the jerusalem landfill
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: oiseli48 on July 10, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
Isnt the 18% tax only for Israelis? Meaning if I'm being charged for it when I book, will I get refunded?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on July 10, 2015, 02:37:16 PM
Isnt the 18% tax only for Israelis? Meaning if I'm being charged for it when I book, will I get refunded?
You should
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: oiseli48 on July 10, 2015, 02:40:39 PM
K thanks. Just to verify, if award nights are available for 80k, that means I can use a free night certificate?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on July 10, 2015, 07:18:41 PM
K thanks. Just to verify, if award nights are available for 80k, that means I can use a free night certificate?
Yes
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: ilherman on July 12, 2015, 01:24:17 AM
Anybody hear of Sukkos deals?
I think AJK has some plans dreams...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: oiseli48 on July 12, 2015, 09:07:39 PM
My citi prestige card is refunding the 4th night, including the VAT that was charged. I called the hotel, they say they will refund the VAT once I complete my stay. Sounds like a nice dose of double dipping
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on July 13, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
I think AJK has some plans dreams...
Somebody did it last year...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on July 14, 2015, 06:42:46 AM
My citi prestige card is refunding the 4th night, including the VAT that was charged. I called the hotel, they say they will refund the VAT once I complete my stay. Sounds like a nice dose of double dipping
If you call up Citi, they can probably fix that for you.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on July 23, 2015, 09:47:52 AM
Got an email from my concierge, but when I emailed back right away I got an auto response that he is away till August 30th. Tried emailing the contacts he provided but no response. A little frustrating. Anyone have a good contact there? PM if you dont want to put it up here. Thanks!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 23, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
Got an email from my concierge, but when I emailed back right away I got an auto response that he is away till August 30th. Tried emailing the contacts he provided but no response. A little frustrating. Anyone have a good contact there? PM if you dont want to put it up here. Thanks!
Amira.Lauer@waldorfastoria.com
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shmooz on July 23, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
Thanks, that's the one he provided.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 23, 2015, 10:06:13 AM
here's 2 more:
jason.gordon@waldorfastoria.com
ashley.sanderslerner@waldorfastoria.com
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on July 23, 2015, 10:09:31 AM
Amira.Lauer@waldorfastoria.com
That's the once I emailed when I was staying there. Never got a reply!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 23, 2015, 10:12:09 AM
Amira.Lauer@waldorfastoria.com

She's great.  She initially didn't respond to us, either, but the requests we made via email were all arranged when we arrived.  We met her at the hotel and she apologized she couldn't respond but made sure to fulfill our requests.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on July 23, 2015, 10:20:12 AM
Im sure these people love the fact that their emails are on ddf.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on July 23, 2015, 10:34:34 AM
Im sure these people love the fact that their emails are on ddf.
Not a big deal. When you have a reservation the hotel emails you before you come and tell you who your concierge is and there email of you have any special requests.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: clownaparte on July 23, 2015, 05:42:17 PM
I am at the Waldorf right now (posting from their wifi). I also got that auto response from Jason, and Amira didn't answer my email either. However everyone here ha provided outstanding service so far.

They will be having a seuda hamafsekes at 6:30 on Shabbos. When I initially asked about it they said there was not going to be anything for pre-fast meal, but then I got another email that they just decided to make a seuda hamafsekes at 6:30 ( this was on Tuesday).  It is $55 per person.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on July 23, 2015, 05:45:23 PM
I am at the Waldorf right now (posting from their wifi). I also got that auto response from Jason, and Amira didn't answer my email either. However everyone here ha provided outstanding service so far.

They will be having a seuda hamafsekes at 6:30 on Shabbos. When I initially asked about it they said there was not going to be anything for pre-fast meal, but then I got another email that they just decided to make a seuda hamafsekes at 6:30 ( this was on Tuesday).  It is $55 per person.
Did you look intto the hashgasha?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 23, 2015, 06:31:43 PM
Got an email from my concierge, but when I emailed back right away I got an auto response that he is away till August 30th. Tried emailing the contacts he provided but no response. A little frustrating. Anyone have a good contact there? PM if you dont want to put it up here. Thanks!
I'm trying to contact them for the last week (tried 3 emails) and I'm not getting any response not even auto response
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 24, 2015, 11:20:34 AM
I'm trying to contact them for the last week (tried 3 emails) and I'm not getting any response not even auto response

Why not call?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 26, 2015, 05:39:24 PM
Anyone that ate both Shabbos meals there?
Which one is nicer and gets you the most value?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on July 26, 2015, 05:49:36 PM
Anyone that ate both Shabbos meals there?
Which one is nicer and gets you the most value?
Friday night is served,
Shabbos day is more to the buffet style, though they do have servers standing by...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 26, 2015, 07:28:49 PM
Friday night is more value since you can wash and eat a meal at breakfast
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on July 26, 2015, 08:28:48 PM
Friday night is more value since you can wash and eat a meal at breakfast
Do they have hot food on Shabbos breakfast?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on July 26, 2015, 08:39:12 PM
Do they have hot food on Shabbos breakfast?
Yes,nothing fleishigs tho.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: micahfriedland on July 29, 2015, 06:07:35 PM
Did you look intto the hashgasha?
I ate breakfast there this past Shabbos. I waited to speak to the mashgiach. Claimed no shailas for chalav yisrael, shemitta, etc. because "the owner is Reichmann and he wouldn't let us have anything but the strictest standards."
What makes it difficult for me is that Arabs pour wine (unless you tell them not to) and metal bottles are left closed so people "have" to open them on Shabbos.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on July 29, 2015, 06:11:52 PM
I ate breakfast there this past Shabbos. I waited to speak to the mashgiach. Claimed no shailas for chalav yisrael, shemitta, etc. because "the owner is Reichmann and he wouldn't let us have anything but the strictest standards."
What makes it difficult for me is that Arabs pour wine (unless you tell them not to) and metal bottles are left closed so people "have" to open them on Shabbos.

Isn't all the wine mevushal?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: HolyNyc on July 29, 2015, 07:48:12 PM
And the bottles, first of all its not the mashgiach's problem, second there are rabbis that do allow it just my .02
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: moish on July 29, 2015, 09:57:36 PM
And the bottles first of all its not the mashgiach's problem
of course it would be
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on August 03, 2015, 08:19:52 AM
any shuls near by that have a minyan factory besides the Kosel.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on August 03, 2015, 09:24:49 AM
any shuls near by that have a minyan factory besides the Kosel.
In geula.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yitz on August 03, 2015, 12:18:29 PM
Thanks, I was hoping to find something closer.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: voldemort on August 03, 2015, 12:45:25 PM
any shuls near by that have a minyan factory besides the Kosel.
Try the Gra shul in rechavia.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on August 03, 2015, 09:24:57 PM
Just a note for a nice Gold/Diamond upgrade situation to ask for if you are with a family in two rooms.  We went for 5 nights over Shavuos on points at the standard rate.  They upgraded one of our rooms to a king junior suite and the other to a king deluxe but they were on a corner and had one separate entry door that each room key opened, then a little foyer and additional locked doors to each room.  We were able to keep our stroller in that foyer and also keep our room doors propped open since we still had the locked entry door that lead to the two rooms (which ended up giving us the equivalent of a huge two bedroom, attached suite, which was nice since my oldest is ten and although we wanted the space of two rooms it was nice to still be able to be connected and hear the kids).  Also we were in the older section and I think they only have these on the 1-3rd floors so if you request this set-up you would also be on a lower floor if you didn't want to use the Shabbos elevator.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: micahfriedland on August 04, 2015, 10:10:57 AM
Just a note for a nice Gold/Diamond upgrade situation to ask for if you are with a family in two rooms.  We went for 5 nights over Shavuos on points at the standard rate.  They upgraded one of our rooms to a king junior suite and the other to a king deluxe but they were on a corner and had one separate entry door that each room key opened, then a little foyer and additional locked doors to each room.  We were able to keep our stroller in that foyer and also keep our room doors propped open since we still had the locked entry door that lead to the two rooms (which ended up giving us the equivalent of a huge two bedroom, attached suite, which was nice since my oldest is ten and although we wanted the space of two rooms it was nice to still be able to be connected and hear the kids).  Also we were in the older section and I think they only have these on the 1-3rd floors so if you request this set-up you would also be on a lower floor if you didn't want to use the Shabbos elevator.

sounds AWESOME. the upgrade to the king junior suite... how many levels up was that (what type of room did you book with your points)?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Platinum on August 04, 2015, 06:06:30 PM
Just a note for a nice Gold/Diamond upgrade situation to ask for if you are with a family in two rooms.  We went for 5 nights over Shavuos on points at the standard rate.  They upgraded one of our rooms to a king junior suite and the other to a king deluxe but they were on a corner and had one separate entry door that each room key opened, then a little foyer and additional locked doors to each room.  We were able to keep our stroller in that foyer and also keep our room doors propped open since we still had the locked entry door that lead to the two rooms (which ended up giving us the equivalent of a huge two bedroom, attached suite, which was nice since my oldest is ten and although we wanted the space of two rooms it was nice to still be able to be connected and hear the kids).  Also we were in the older section and I think they only have these on the 1-3rd floors so if you request this set-up you would also be on a lower floor if you didn't want to use the Shabbos elevator.
Were you gold or diamond?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on August 04, 2015, 06:59:52 PM
sounds AWESOME. the upgrade to the king junior suite... how many levels up was that (what type of room did you book with your points)?

We just booked the normal King Superior room (normally 80k points).  We are Diamond and since we booked five nights they were only 64k a night.  In the reservation notes, I did specifically ask for a Diamond upgrade if they had space and I also asked for the two rooms to be close by and they gave me this cool set-up, with the separate locked entryway for both rooms.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: D93 on August 29, 2015, 05:50:47 PM
How does the WA restaurant charge show up as on a Citi credit card?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on August 29, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
If anybody is staying here and needs someone to reach out to - I made a new friend here who can help get upgrades etc but you must have some status and it helps if it's a paid booking over points (but not necessary)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on August 29, 2015, 06:50:36 PM
If anybody is staying here and needs someone to reach out to - I made a new friend here who can help get upgrades etc but you must have some status and it helps if it's a paid booking over points (but not necessary)
What status must one have?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on August 29, 2015, 09:52:53 PM
How does the WA restaurant charge show up as on a Citi credit card?
Hikton,
Use your Barclays and eat free
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on August 29, 2015, 11:06:20 PM
Hikton,
Use your Barclays and eat free
can u elaborate?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: joeb1 on August 30, 2015, 01:10:45 AM
Not really free
What he means is use Barclays arrival
Points towards the hotel purchase
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: D93 on August 30, 2015, 01:38:05 AM
Hikton,
Use your Barclays and eat free
Do you mean "HiLton"?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on August 30, 2015, 02:11:40 AM
Not really free
What he means is use Barclays arrival
Points towards the hotel purchase
Correct.
Eating there, comes up on cc as hotel purchase, which is free with Barclays points.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: D93 on August 30, 2015, 02:12:51 AM
Correct.
Eating there, comes up on cc as hotel purchase, which is free with Barclays points.
Thanks. Would the $100 credit on the Citi Hilton Reserve card work too?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on August 30, 2015, 02:13:25 AM
Correct.
Eating there, comes up on cc as hotel purchase, which is free with Barclays points.
Thanks for the clarification!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on August 30, 2015, 09:05:29 AM
Thanks. Would the $100 credit on the Citi Hilton Reserve card work too?


Correct.
Eating there, comes up on cc as hotel purchase.
With this I would assume so.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on August 31, 2015, 09:43:52 PM
How does the WA restaurant charge show up as on a Citi credit card?

Thanks. Would the $100 credit on the Citi Hilton Reserve card work too?

It is different if you get a charge from the restaurant.  It clearly says that in the card fine print that they don't count as a "hotel" charge unless it's affiliated with a room (although you can get these points also for money spent in banquets charges from hosting a simcha or conference at an Hhonors hotel).   If you're staying there, even on points, put all your charges to the room though then when you pay it at checkout you would get not only all the HHonors points for all those expenses PLUS the 10 pts/$ you'll also get from the Citi Reserve
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Matovu on August 31, 2015, 10:24:16 PM
So just charge it to the room
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on August 31, 2015, 10:57:32 PM
So just charge it to the room

Yeah but I think he's tryng to see if he can get this $100 credit just from eating at their restaurant without staying at the hotel.  I don't think you can but D93 if you do get away with that let us all know!   8)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shimino1 on September 01, 2015, 10:55:16 AM
And if your looking to treat someone, PM me.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: BrooklynCPA on September 02, 2015, 11:46:54 AM
Im trying to book the WA for 2 adults and a child and it doesn't show any point options, it only shows when booked for 2 people. Will there be any issues if I book as 2 and will they give breakfast for all 3.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on September 02, 2015, 03:23:24 PM
Im trying to book the WA for 2 adults and a child and it doesn't show any point options, it only shows when booked for 2 people. Will there be any issues if I book as 2 and will they give breakfast for all 3.

Won't be an issue.  And you'll be fine re breakfast.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zow on September 02, 2015, 04:10:17 PM
Won't be an issue.  And you'll be fine re breakfast.
I guess I would say +0.5.
We stayed one night in late July on a WA free night certificate. I, too, was unable to book the room for 2adults+1 child, so I booked for 2 adults, emailed the manager, and they said it would be fine.   They did charge for breakfast for my son; I think it was about $35, which, IMO, is very reasonable for what is a ginormous and delicious feast.  (Parking was also free.)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: clear thinker on September 03, 2015, 03:05:06 PM
It costs 279,000 points a night for Sukkos??
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: D93 on September 03, 2015, 03:08:36 PM
It costs 279,000 points a night for Sukkos??
That's not a standard room.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: clear thinker on September 03, 2015, 03:14:23 PM
That's not a standard room.
So I guess no standard rooms available?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: D93 on September 03, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
So I guess no standard rooms available?
Correct
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dave A on September 03, 2015, 04:57:13 PM
I guess I would say +0.5.
We stayed one night in late July on a WA free night certificate. I, too, was unable to book the room for 2adults+1 child, so I booked for 2 adults, emailed the manager, and they said it would be fine.   They did charge for breakfast for my son; I think it was about $35, which, IMO, is very reasonable for what is a ginormous and delicious feast.  (Parking was also free.)

Interesting.  We did the same in early July, but I called reservations and they not only booked me for 2 adults + 1 child, they also added an additional child (infant) to the reservation (and room was setup with a cot + crib).  All 4 of us ate for free.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: zow on September 06, 2015, 10:56:16 PM

Interesting.  We did the same in early July, but I called reservations and they not only booked me for 2 adults + 1 child, they also added an additional child (infant) to the reservation (and room was setup with a cot + crib).  All 4 of us ate for free.
That's great.  I guess YMMV but the general idea is that the hotel is pretty generous and accommodating. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 06, 2015, 11:28:02 PM
That's great.  I guess YMMV but the general idea is that the hotel is pretty generous and accommodating.
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: marko on September 20, 2015, 02:24:28 AM
Alright- So I got those cheap tickets on AC to Isreael. What is the cheapest way to book Waldorf for my stay- Points? or is there another cheaper way?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Drago on September 20, 2015, 02:41:59 AM
Alright- So I got those cheap tickets on AC to Isreael. What is the cheapest way to book Waldorf for my stay- Points? or is there another cheaper way?
points or free night certs
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: nathan13 on September 20, 2015, 03:40:28 AM
points or free night certs
arent free nights only for weekends? Or is there a way to switch them to weekday?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on September 20, 2015, 06:45:16 AM
arent free nights only for weekends? Or is there a way to switch them to weekday?
It is possible to switch to a weekday but it's YMMV
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: marko on September 21, 2015, 01:28:02 AM
points or free night certs

Do ppl sell these free night certificates?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: D93 on September 21, 2015, 01:40:26 AM
Do ppl sell these free night certificates?
Yes
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yg99 on September 21, 2015, 07:55:55 AM
Are there any minyanim in the hotel at all? Shabbos?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 21, 2015, 08:21:57 AM
Are there any minyanim in the hotel at all? Shabbos?
On Shabbos they have Minyan.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: marko on September 21, 2015, 08:28:54 PM
Anyone know what Waldorf charges per person for shabbos meals?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 21, 2015, 08:29:28 PM
On Shabbos they have Minyan.
+1
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 21, 2015, 08:30:09 PM
Anyone know what Waldorf charges per person for shabbos meals?
Look upthread, IIRC it depends on the exchange rates, $115 for adults per meal
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: yomo on September 22, 2015, 12:36:23 AM
What's the hechsher?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on September 22, 2015, 01:02:04 AM
What's the hechsher?

Unfortunately MANY of the 103 pages in this thread are about kashrut arguments surrounding the hotel so just read thru the pages...officially Rabanut BUT much higher standards than regular Rabanut (but still not Mehadrin for a few reasons)...just read back in the posts
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Miracle on September 23, 2015, 02:11:17 PM
When I went to WA early July, they gave wine and cake for an anniversary.. Just curious, do they do that for birthdays too? Or Anniversary is more of a "special day" in hotel language...?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on September 23, 2015, 02:33:21 PM
What's the hechsher?
Rabbanut
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: eli1571 on September 23, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
is it hard to find availability for a weekend using the free night certificate ? how long before do u have to book ?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: sammy n on September 23, 2015, 06:03:35 PM
is it hard to find availability for a weekend using the free night certificate ? how long before do u have to book ?
I haven't found it hard to find availability. Probably depends what season you looking to go. I booked 3 day's before in the past and it was for super bowl sunday!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on September 23, 2015, 11:17:20 PM
is it hard to find availability for a weekend using the free night certificate ? how long before do u have to book ?

Just look online for any weekend night that has availability @80k and you can call and book your cert.  They're full now for Sukkot but all their other times including Pesach, Shavuos and the week of X-Mas and New year's they have availability for the basic rooms.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 23, 2015, 11:19:09 PM
Just look online for any weekend night that has availability @80k and you can call and book your cert.  They're full now for Sukkot but all their other times including Pesach, Shavuos and the week of X-Mas and New year's they have availability for the basic rooms.
sukkos an pesach are now blocked out by the hotel (at least for a standard room) look upthread.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on September 23, 2015, 11:38:01 PM
sukkos an pesach are now blocked out by the hotel (at least for a standard room) look upthread.

Maybe last year but I just checked and the website and as of now I could book all 10 nights of Pesach at the base points (80k a night or 64k if you are diamond buying in 5 night increments) and if they have any weekend nights available at their standard rates they will let you use the certs.  The HHonors people explained to me on the phone that the hotel can't even see if you used points or a free night certificate.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on September 23, 2015, 11:42:52 PM
Why would you think it would make a difference to the hotel if it's a points or cert booking?

The hotel likely gets paid the same either way.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 23, 2015, 11:43:23 PM
Why would you think it would make a difference to the hotel if it's a points or cert booking?

The hotel likely gets paid the same either way.
+1 has to do with the occupancy rate at the time IINM
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on September 23, 2015, 11:48:30 PM
+1 has to do with the occupancy rate at the time IINM
Yup. And booking requirements are the same. Need lowest award night available (80k)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on September 23, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
Why would you think it would make a difference to the hotel if it's a points or cert booking?

The hotel likely gets paid the same either way.

I don't.  Just trying to make super clear for people that are considering getting the Citi card or wondering if they'll be able to use their certificates that if you see a King Superior room available for 80k (even during Pesach or Sukkot) HHonors will let you use the certificate to book a room.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 23, 2015, 11:57:21 PM
I don't.  Just trying to make super clear for people that are considering getting the Citi card or wondering if they'll be able to use their certificates that if you see a King Superior room available for 80k (even during Pesach or Sukkot) HHonors will let you use the certificate to book a room.
pretty sure they now block all pesach and sukkos, CMMIW
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on September 23, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
pretty sure they now block all pesach and sukkos, CMMIW
Wrong.

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 24, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
Wrong.
which one is not blocked?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on September 24, 2015, 12:01:39 AM
which one is not blocked?
Try a search for this coming pesach.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: mb1 on September 24, 2015, 12:03:22 AM
How long does it take for a free weekend certificate to post to your account?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on September 24, 2015, 12:04:01 AM
which one is not blocked?

All Pesach is available right now.  I think the Seder is like $250 pp so maybe just go for Chol HaMoed or last days! ;)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on September 24, 2015, 12:05:35 AM
How long does it take for a free weekend certificate to post to your account?
A few days to a few weeks.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 24, 2015, 12:17:57 AM
All Pesach is available right now.  I think the Seder is like $250 pp so maybe just go for Chol HaMoed or last days! ;)
Wow, that is really expensive.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 24, 2015, 12:18:17 AM
Try a search for this coming pesach.
yup, you are right. Though so many points...
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on September 29, 2015, 11:18:35 PM
yup, you are right. Though so many points...

Actually now no more standard rooms left over Pesach 2016, so you can't use the certificates any more.  Guess people were having fun over Sukkot and made their reservations for Pesach!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 29, 2015, 11:34:31 PM
Actually now no more standard rooms left over Pesach 2016, so you can't use the certificates any more.  Guess people were having fun over Sukkot and made their reservations for Pesach!
Or hotel blocked them out
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: A European on October 04, 2015, 11:38:53 AM
Sorry if it was asked but what's the hechsher there?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 04, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
Sorry if it was asked but what's the hechsher there?
ROFL  start reading upthread ;D ;D
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on October 05, 2015, 05:03:53 PM
Sorry if it was asked but what's the hechsher there?
rabbanut
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: shampz on October 07, 2015, 06:51:21 PM
Hi,

Does anyone know if there are discounts on Shabbat meals or at the restaurants for Diamond members?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 07, 2015, 06:53:11 PM
If anyone wants to book through my diamond account pm me.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: keepsmiling123 on October 07, 2015, 07:12:06 PM
rabbanut

Yerushalayim Mehadrin or just standard Rabbanut Yerushalayim?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on October 07, 2015, 10:12:11 PM
Hi,

Does anyone know if there are discounts on Shabbat meals or at the restaurants for Diamond members?

Thanks!

I'm Diamond and there were no discounts on any restaurant meals.  They did add free breakfast to our rooms booked on points and gave two free drink certs (worth about 60 shekels each) per stay (not per night as other have gotten in the past and I specifically asked whether I could get them per day).  We also got an upgrade from a regular superior room to a Junior Suite.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: coralsnake on October 07, 2015, 10:21:41 PM
I'm Diamond and there were no discounts on any restaurant meals.  They did add free breakfast to our rooms booked on points and gave two free drink certs (worth about 60 shekels each) per stay (not per night as other have gotten in the past and I specifically asked whether I could get them per day).  We also got an upgrade from a regular superior room to a Junior Suite.
When we're you there?

I was there in January with Gold status and they gave us 2 drink vouchers per room per night (2 rooms)
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on October 07, 2015, 10:25:43 PM
When we're you there?

I was there in January with Gold status and they gave us 2 drink vouchers per room per night (2 rooms)

In May, over Shavuot.  They did give us 2 per room but I really pushed them and they would only give two per stay, not per night. As an aside, I thought the normal $110 price for the Shabbos and Yontiv dinner was actually reasonable considering the quality of the food, unlimited wine, etc.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mocha on October 08, 2015, 09:27:02 AM
anyone think would be any issues with mixing award nights/free night cert from diff accounts with diff names?
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: JoshNY on October 08, 2015, 09:12:37 PM
When we were there in January, we got 2 free drinks vouchers per room, per day.
When we came back in June, they only gave us 2 vouchers for the first day, and when we asked, they explained that they had changed their policy.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Denverite on October 09, 2015, 02:54:36 AM
anyone think would be any issues with mixing award nights/free night cert from diff accounts with diff names?

Not sure what you're asking.  Do you mean can cobble you together certificates for a couple nights from one name, more from another, and also book some
Points nights altogether for one stay?  If you have separate reservations, you can call or let them know when you check in and they can link them together so that you don't have worry about changing rooms.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Mocha on October 09, 2015, 07:36:23 AM
Not sure what you're asking.  Do you mean can cobble you together certificates for a couple nights from one name, more from another, and also book some
Points nights altogether for one stay?  If you have separate reservations, you can call or let them know when you check in and they can link them together so that you don't have worry about changing rooms.
my worry is more along the lines of them not letting me use the nights being that I am only the additional cost of these various reservations
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: EJB on October 09, 2015, 08:06:45 AM
When we were there in January, we got 2 free drinks vouchers per room, per day.
When we came back in June, they only gave us 2 vouchers for the first day, and when we asked, they explained that they had changed their policy.

Got 4 for 4 days in July.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Emkay on October 24, 2015, 03:08:26 PM
made number #7 on the Conde nast list
http://www.cntraveler.com/readers-choice-awards/2015/top-100-hotels-and-resorts-in-the-world-readers-choice-awards

Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2015, 07:53:02 PM
made number #7 on the Conde nast list
http://www.cntraveler.com/readers-choice-awards/2015/top-100-hotels-and-resorts-in-the-world-readers-choice-awards


ROFL, it's a nice hotel but that's just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: Marco Polo on October 24, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
Is the pool/spa even open yet??
Title: Re: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem
Post by: HolyNyc on October 24, 2015, 08:25:44 PM