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Title: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 12, 2010, 07:08:18 PM
Hi everyone,
I'm planning a trip to Paris for the end of March and I need suggestions. I'm planning to get there Wednesday morning and leave Thursday evening and would prefer to stay in District 4 (Rue des Rosiers). I need advice on the following:
1. Decent hotel in that vicinity
2. Minyanim
3. Good breakfast
4. Restaurant for dinner
5. "Must visit" patisseries chocolatiers etc.
6. Tourist attractions (remember, I'm being there for less than two days)
7. Getting around
8. Any other useful information......

Thanks in advance!!!!! :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: momo on January 12, 2010, 07:49:19 PM
Hi everyone,
I'm planning a trip to Paris for the end of March and I need suggestions. I'm planning to get there Wednesday morning and leave Thursday evening and would prefer to stay in District 4 (Rue des Rosiers). I need advice on the following:
1. Decent hotel in that vicinity
2. Minyanim
3. Good breakfast
4. Restaurant for dinner
5. "Must visit" patisseries chocolatiers etc.
6. Tourist attractions (remember, I'm being there for less than two days)
7. Getting around
8. Any other useful information......

Thanks in advance!!!!! :)
Ok. I don't know what your standards are so for a decent hotel you may have to stay outside of the 4th. As for getting around the train system is great! It is very easy to figure out and user friendly You can buy a full day pass i do not remember how much it cost but it was not expensive. Option 2 would be to rent a bike. They are rented all around the city. Option 3 would be to walk around as much as you can because it is really beautiful. As for things to do you are only there 2 days so Versailles is out. The lourve is amazing but i don't know if you want to spend 1 of your days there. You should definitely see the eiffel towers(i think it is nicer at night) arc de triumph, notre dame,walk down ave champs-elysees(really fancy shopping). Ihope this helped. Have a great time!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 13, 2010, 02:38:06 AM
be aware that bes din is not galtt. the only glatt hashgacha is rottenberg
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on January 13, 2010, 10:20:13 AM
be aware that bes din is not galtt. the only glatt hashgacha is rottenberg

im in with you
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on January 13, 2010, 10:36:05 AM
Ok. I don't know what your standards are so for a decent hotel you may have to stay outside of the 4th. As for getting around the train system is great! It is very easy to figure out and user friendly You can buy a full day pass i do not remember how much it cost but it was not expensive. Option 2 would be to rent a bike. They are rented all around the city. Option 3 would be to walk around as much as you can because it is really beautiful. As for things to do you are only there 2 days so Versailles is out. The lourve is amazing but i don't know if you want to spend 1 of your days there. You should definitely see the eiffel towers(i think it is nicer at night) arc de triumph, notre dame,walk down ave champs-elysees(really fancy shopping). Ihope this helped. Have a great time!

i have been to paris allot of times momo really said nearly everthing
i would defently not skip the pizza on rue des rosier (the whole neigberhoodis called pletsel by olden jews))
its a tiny store its one lubavitsher guy making his own pizza but its the best pizza i ever tasted
for sure dont forget to buy the french baquet just eat it with butter
the vacuum packed lax fish is delicious and cheap
on pave street its off rue des rosier you have the big old shul (rav rottenberg)still in use
i would also go to the old opera and the big store next to it gallery the la fajet
next to the eifel tower (as he said by night)i would also go on to the big wheel
by the eifel tower remember to go passed the  founta inand take steps up so you can have the view from across i think its even nicer than the eifel tower itself (you get the full view) they will alll jump on you to sell you souveniers so remember to bargain
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MOSES on January 13, 2010, 11:48:44 AM
I just found this cool website online http://www.kosherinfrance.com/
the 19th district is a very jewish area and has a lot of resturants... though there is another kosher restaurant every corner that you turn (literally.. there are tons)
you can take a train from the airport if you want to save money. public transportation is phenomenal!!
i have been to paris allot of times momo really said nearly everthing
i would defently not skip the pizza on rue des rosier (the whole neigberhoodis called pletsel by olden jews))
its a tiny store its one lubavitsher guy making his own pizza but its the best pizza i ever tasted
for sure dont forget to buy the french baquet just eat it with butter
the vacuum packed lax fish is delicious and cheap
on pave street its off rue des rosier you have the big old shul (rav rottenberg)still in use
i would also go to the old opera and the big store next to it gallery the la fajet
next to the eifel tower (as he said by night)i would also go on to the big wheel
by the eifel tower remember to go passed the  founta inand take steps up so you can have the view from across i think its even nicer than the eifel tower itself (you get the full view) they will alll jump on you to sell you souveniers so remember to bargain
I would not go so far to call Engelbergs pizz "the best I have ever tasted"...
In my opinion you defiantly don't need a hotel near the pletzel... paris is sooo easily accesable by train that I would go for any hotel you can get a good rate on that is in a descent area.
If you are going to be there for only 2 days, just do the basics.... eifel tower, arch, lourve, etc. just walking around the place is fun.
be aware that bes din is not galtt. the only glatt hashgacha is rottenberg
there is also "beis did de lubavitch" that is glatt




Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on January 13, 2010, 02:52:21 PM
remember on and around the trains you have tons of pick pocketing
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Deal Guy on January 13, 2010, 04:54:50 PM
remember on and around the trains you have tons of pick pocketing

If I were you, I wouldn't be afraid
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MOSES on January 13, 2010, 07:58:29 PM
If I were you, I wouldn't be afraid
me neither. It is like anywhere else in europe or NYC, just use your head...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on January 13, 2010, 08:35:27 PM
me neither. It is like anywhere else in europe or NYC, just use your head...

no no in paris they are really prof. they usually do it when you walk up/down steps
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MOSES on January 13, 2010, 09:21:55 PM
no no in paris they are really prof. they usually do it when you walk up/down steps
they are pro everywhere. keep your stuff in sealed pockets and put your hands on them when you are going through heavy crouuds
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: momo on January 14, 2010, 05:50:56 AM
I got pickpocketed 2 times in Italy. 1time on the bus in Naples i felt some one putting his hand in my pocket and i slapped his hand away but apparently he got 50 euro( the whole bus started screaming at him in italian) The second time was in rome on a bus again when i felt a guy taking my wallet it was as the bus stopped by a bus stop the doors opened and FOUR people jumped off i of couse jumped off as well but they ran in four different direcyions. Needless to say bye bye wallet, with all credit cards cash atm  drivers license. Bh i was with my wife who had a cc. I had to find a phone and quickly call up to cancel my cc atm etc. They actually tried to use my atm card right away, but bh it was canceled. mMoral of the story be careful and try to stay away from really crowded trains and buses. Also do not wear clothing that screams TOURIST.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MOSES on January 14, 2010, 07:55:18 AM
just keep your wallet in a deep pocket that has a button or zipper that closes it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: youG on February 17, 2010, 02:28:01 PM
planing a trip to Paris beginning of march for 2.5 days any advice on what to do or where to stay?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 17, 2010, 03:59:51 PM
eiffel tower
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on February 18, 2010, 12:46:19 PM
here you go
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1573.0
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: GABE on February 22, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
Pointbreakers has a crowne plaza (i think) or a holiday inn for 5000 points/ $30 but I think it's a little out of the city center. But it might be worth it considering the prices for a nice hotel in town. But if you have or know someone with extra hyatt certificates there is a Hyatt Park. 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: youG on February 24, 2010, 07:50:58 AM
the park hyatt or hyatt regency does not have availability the days i need. 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2010, 09:17:24 AM
the park hyatt or hyatt regency does not have availability the days i need. 
Well they do, but just 1 day each.  ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 01, 2010, 07:56:15 AM
I get the impression that the main sightseeing attraction is an award-availability in a good hotel.

Based on that, they might have a great hotel in Novosibirsk...   ;D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 01, 2010, 03:05:37 PM
I get the impression that the main sightseeing attraction is an award-availability in a good hotel.

Based on that, they might have a great hotel in Novosibirsk...   ;D
you nailed it on the head
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: youG on March 02, 2010, 12:15:10 PM
a very nice award  hotel will not make or break a trip but it def. will enhance a good vacation staying in a nice hotel! and hey if its with awards that means more money towards attractions!! 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 02, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
a very nice award  hotel will not make or break a trip but it def. will enhance a good vacation staying in a nice hotel! and hey if its with awards that means more money towards attractions!! 
no kidding. it seems like you missed the point
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on March 02, 2010, 12:50:41 PM
no kidding. it seems like you missed the point


are you all staying in your room the whole day  ???than you could go to your local hotel  ;) ;D;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 02, 2010, 02:01:06 PM
im not sure how thats replying to my quote
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on March 10, 2010, 12:50:05 AM
For a trip of this length, I think the location of your hotel is crucial!
The Park Hyatt seems to be in the middle of a great area to wander around by foot. The amenities are top of the line, and for the sake of getting out and about, they offer a complimentary bicycle valet service.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: youG on March 15, 2010, 12:21:17 PM
Thank you for your help I stayed in the le meridian etoile as I was able to get it for 104 euro and upgraded with plat status although it was a little bit "out" I managed to get all around by train
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 18, 2010, 04:03:59 AM
thats the list of all the kosher hotel in paris
http://hotel-cacher.alloj.fr/paris/page1.html
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2010, 10:47:02 AM
thats the list of all the kosher hotel in paris
http://hotel-cacher.alloj.fr/paris/page1.html
Wow, who knew that Lebron had a kosher hotel?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 20, 2010, 09:38:34 PM
Ok so I'll be at the Park Hyatt Paris-Vendome for Thursday-Monday.
There appears to be a chabad shul around the corner (http://local.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=5+Rue+Volney+Paris,+75002+France&daddr=Park+Hyatt+Paris+-+Vendome+Hotel,+5+Rue+de+la+Paix,+75002+Paris,+France&hl=en&geocode=FSqw6QIdNY0jACkLUG9zMW7mRzEx0lsAvGNqcA%3BFVyt6QIdEJAjACkDVc-lMW7mRzFAwaulxIILHQ&mra=pe&mrcr=0&dirflg=w&sll=48.869059,2.330274&sspn=0.007057,0.01929&ie=UTF8&z=18), has anyone ever davened there?

Any recommendation for buying shabbos food?
Any bakery/restaurant recommendations?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on April 20, 2010, 11:38:59 PM
Ok so I'll be at the Park Hyatt Paris-Vendome for Thursday-Monday.
There appears to be a chabad shul around the corner (http://local.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=5+Rue+Volney+Paris,+75002+France&daddr=Park+Hyatt+Paris+-+Vendome+Hotel,+5+Rue+de+la+Paix,+75002+Paris,+France&hl=en&geocode=FSqw6QIdNY0jACkLUG9zMW7mRzEx0lsAvGNqcA%3BFVyt6QIdEJAjACkDVc-lMW7mRzFAwaulxIILHQ&mra=pe&mrcr=0&dirflg=w&sll=48.869059,2.330274&sspn=0.007057,0.01929&ie=UTF8&z=18), has anyone ever davened there?

Any recommendation for buying shabbos food?
Any bakery/restaurant recommendations?
Call my cousin Billy, He is very familiar with kosher establishments and shuls in the area
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 04, 2010, 01:47:40 AM
So far just a pizza recommendation in this thread.
Any other food recommendations?

Anyone been to Versailles? Worthwhile?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 04, 2010, 04:50:40 AM
are you kidding? of course its worthwhile. you gotta budget a full day though imo. as far as food, i recall there was a good indian place under rottenberg, which you dont really see too much of in america. as far as hashgachos, keep in mind that the most popular hashgacha (and in much of europe), "bet din", is not glatt, so im not sure what your standards are (do you eat hebrew national?) and whether you hold there is a difference between meat and chicken when it comes to glatt, but rottenberg is a glatt hashgacha.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2010, 02:57:10 AM
are you kidding? of course its worthwhile. you gotta budget a full day though imo. as far as food, i recall there was a good indian place under rottenberg, which you dont really see too much of in america. as far as hashgachos, keep in mind that the most popular hashgacha (and in much of europe), "bet din", is not glatt, so im not sure what your standards are (do you eat hebrew national?) and whether you hold there is a difference between meat and chicken when it comes to glatt, but rottenberg is a glatt hashgacha.
What are the must-do attractions in Versailles? How hard is it to get there by train?

We may wind up eating at Chabad of Champs Elysées for Shabbos to save the runaround of buying and heating up shabbos food.  It seems to be about a half hour walk from the Park Hyatt.

So Chabad, Rottenberg, and Frankfurter seem to be mehadrin/glatt.  Are any others OK? Is Katz mehadrin?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 05, 2010, 05:52:35 AM
vesailles is a palace that you can look around as well as the beautiful gardens in the back (not a city with some bumper cars). you can elso rent a bike back there. i think there are also boat rides. when i was there, we had downloaded the free rick steves audio guide on our mp3 players beforehand and used that, but i think you can get some there.(http://www.ricksteves.com/news/travelnews/0602/audiotour_menu.htm) its quite simple and straightforward to get there by train from paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on June 27, 2010, 02:21:24 PM
Park Hyatt over Regency?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2010, 02:23:46 PM
Park Hyatt over Regency?
Of course, as long as it's available.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on June 27, 2010, 02:24:46 PM
Seems to be. Waiting to hear back from travel agent what dates I'm going, but I tried a few of the dates, and it seemed available
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 27, 2010, 02:28:12 PM
make sure you have a good agent, and double check yourself with the online sites.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on June 27, 2010, 02:29:31 PM
Moish, you got ne1 good in israel?
I just called this lady Esti Stefansky. I got her number from the elevator in B"Y
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 27, 2010, 02:31:42 PM
ora elkaim, but id still double check on the web. also there are some charters that go from israel to paris for dirt cheap. what are your dates?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on June 27, 2010, 03:31:38 PM
ora elkaim, but id still double check on the web. also there are some charters that go from israel to paris for dirt cheap. what are your dates?
I saw you posted her name somewhere else, I googled it, but came up empty. Do you have her number handy?

I'd like to go 4-5 days either the week of July 25th or Aug 1st. I'd really prefer not over Shabbos, and not coming back on Friday (maybe a Thursday/Friday red-eye)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2010, 03:32:05 PM
So far just a pizza recommendation in this thread.
Any other food recommendations?

Anyone been to Versailles? Worthwhile?
My Paris trip notes can be seen here:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 27, 2010, 03:43:40 PM
try to speak to ora herself and tell her i sent you
http://www.newcomersguideisrael.com/business_detail.aspx?ID=25
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on June 27, 2010, 03:45:05 PM
tell her i sent you
Moish from DD?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2010, 03:45:43 PM
Moish from DD?
Lol...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 27, 2010, 03:47:46 PM
just moish would be fine. maybe shell chap
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: youG on June 28, 2010, 02:14:08 PM
Good luck getting through and try to only speak to her as most of her staff do not know that much about finding deals and are much less helpfull then Ora herself!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 28, 2010, 02:29:38 PM
tell them you want to get on the charter
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on July 14, 2010, 09:02:43 AM
BE CAREFUL! This site is being monitored.

I called Ora, and she asked me if I was the guy from DansDeals.   ;D ;D ;D

(Moish, she didn't remember you)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on July 14, 2010, 12:44:03 PM
Dan. Any issues at the PH for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2010, 12:48:44 PM
Dan. Any issues at the PH for Shabbos?
No major issues, I wrote about the situation under the Shabbos section in my Paris trip notes:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on July 14, 2010, 05:59:41 PM
Does anyone know offhand which caterer Chabad of Champs Elysses uses and/or the hashgacha
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2010, 06:05:01 PM
Does anyone know offhand which caterer Chabad of Champs Elysses uses and/or the hashgacha
It's under Chabad of Paris, which is one of the very few mehadrin hechsherim in Paris.
The other being Rav Rottenberg.
Most restaurants are under Beis Din, which is definitely not usable for meat because they don't require Glatt.
There are about 200 beis din restaurants, 40 chabad restaurants, and about 10 rottenberg restaurants.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2010, 06:07:53 PM
http://www.123cacher.com/en/kosher_restaurant/kosher-restaurant.php
http://www.kosherinfrance.com/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on July 14, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
Thanks. All it says on their site is "a caterer"
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 24, 2010, 07:29:36 PM
Hi all
I dont have my computer with me and am going tomorrow to paris with my fam.
Staying in the park hyatt for 4 nights. Kosher breakfast as a diamond is arranged ;-)
Anyway, i read dans tripreport and would like to ask anyone for good kosher restaurants with a chabad or rottenberg hechsher.
Please just list name and adress and what type it is. Any specialty worth writing please as well.
If anyone can say how far it is from the park hyatt, great. I am also arriving tomorrow quite late. Whats a good place to order food to a restaurant or a place close to the hotel were i can get a quick bite with tired kids.

Thanks for your input
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 24, 2010, 07:35:27 PM
Unlike other places, i was told that not all chabad hechsherim in France/Paris are top hechsherim.

You might want to find out from frenchies.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 25, 2010, 09:48:45 AM
On my way to the airport. Not many replies until now.
Anybody know what the situation with the chabad hechsher is
Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 25, 2010, 10:11:12 AM
Tons of yidden in paris, any religious guy will be able to inform.

Just shmooze him up to get a hang of how much machmir he is, or knows what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 25, 2010, 12:09:05 PM
On my way to the airport. Not many replies until now.
Anybody know what the situation with the chabad hechsher is
Thanks
I was told that for meat stick with Chabad and Rottenberg and for milk you can even eat in beis din restaurants as the main problem is beis din restaurants having non-glatt meat.

But ask locals and find out for yourself.

-Pitzman (4) had some of the best pizza we've ever had.
-LeShine (17) had pretty good chinese
-Il Conte ( 8 ) had pretty good milchig along with great free bread with spicy garlic oil.
-Darjeeling (17) is supposed to be amazing Indian food, but we went there at 6pm only to find out they didn't open until 7:30pm for dinner.
-La Marina (19) had OK milchig stuff but had an amazing dessert not to be missed called Farandole.  Perhaps eat the main meal at another milchig place called Tib's next door.
-Korcarz (4) has a bakery with some great stuff like their mini lemon meringue pies.  Sit down restaurant there isnt great and they'll charge you a lot to eat the bakery stuff sitting down.  In fact in general for Paris if you take stuff to go you'll save up to 40% of the sit down price depending on the place.
-Chez Hakol (19) is supposed to be the best bakery but we didn't make it here.
-Damyel's Chocolates (19) excellent parve chocolates, but don't miss the dozens of flavors of macarons which are all the craze.
-Ardely's Chocolates (19) excellent milchig chocolates next door to tib's, la marina, and damyel's.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 25, 2010, 12:31:40 PM
If LeShin, has as logo, the hebrew letter of 'Siyn', so i ate there, assuming the chabad hechsher is always ok, but was told that in this case I was mistaken...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 25, 2010, 12:38:28 PM
If LeShin, has as logo, the hebrew letter of 'Siyn', so i ate there, assuming the chabad hechsher is always ok, but was told that in this case I was mistaken...
I have a hard time believing that Chabad would put their hechsher on a restaurant that wasn't mehadrin.  Who told you that you were mistaken?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 25, 2010, 01:26:43 PM
A religious (not taliban) frenchie, a regular guy, that is "with it".

Again, chabad worldwide is known to be a good hechsher, but in France, the general trend (with all hechsherim) is that you quote the hechsher + the place, only then can you be told whether good or not.

Some hechsherim are categorically not very good, and others maybe good, but by a lot, its apparently not the case.

I'm not trying to pretend to be SH (super holy), again, I myself ate there, and was convinced that its ok.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on July 25, 2010, 03:07:17 PM
Tibs is better and more upper class then La Marina but it is also pricier. So if price is a factor I'd say La Marina is better bang buck.

Both Lubavitch and Rottenberg are 100% glatt.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 25, 2010, 04:25:20 PM
Now in pizman. What a hassle to find parking!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 25, 2010, 04:27:31 PM
Guys, once again.

I'm not a taliban, but lubavitch hechsher in paris is not always tops.

For ref: I live close to france and encounter those hechsherim in the local supermarkets very often, so I'm in the inyonim.

But do whatever you like.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 25, 2010, 04:30:30 PM
Now in pizman. What a hassle to find parking!

Yup, hardly worth having a car in Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 25, 2010, 05:40:36 PM
Dan you are right, but going with 3 kids on the subway is not easy as well. A taxi from cdg to ph costs about 60 euros a. Thats 120 to start with. The car was 180 for 4 days for a bmw.
I found parking 300 yards a way, it did cost 6 euros but nunu.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 25, 2010, 08:20:05 PM
It costed 6 euro, but what???!!!

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 26, 2010, 03:02:52 AM
But nu nu. Thats a jidishe expresion, like nu nu, nischt a soi schlimm.

By the way pizman was good, but nothing out of this world.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 26, 2010, 04:11:52 AM
Was just kidding
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 26, 2010, 12:31:04 PM
But nu nu. Thats a jidishe expresion, like nu nu, nischt a soi schlimm.

By the way pizman was good, but nothing out of this world.
Which pizza did you get? We loved the concept of the tropical pizza (pineapple, hearts of palm, corn, mushrooms) 
It sounds funny, but it was really quite good!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 26, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
Of course you loved it.

Its called Hawaiian Pizza.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on July 26, 2010, 01:23:25 PM
Of course you loved it.

Its called Hawaiian Pizza.

+1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 29, 2010, 06:54:22 PM
Ok, here a quick tripreport on Paris

Arrived sunday evening with AF from ZRH. I rented a car from Sixt. Got it through Shlomo Sixt in Israel, cost was 190 Euros for 4 days for a full size. I am a platinum member, all over the world they upgrade me, not in Paris. At the end they gave me a BMW 1 series, since I demanded a automatic without extra charge. Drive to the PH was about 40 min. I was told in advance, that during the summer vacation, there will not be traffic in Paris. That was right, through our entire stay, we didnt have any traffic, even rushhour. The PH offers free valet parking, that was amazing. They bring the car whenever needed and I never had to look for parking. Check-in was no problem. We got 2 connecting rooms, one deluxe, one regular. The deluxe is a little bigger, nothing special. They only have 5 connecting rooms in the hotel, if you need one call early! We then drove to Pizman for supper. It was good but nothing out of this world. Yes, my wife did try the Dan-Pizza (i mean Hawai), it was ok. Parking was a hassle, we parked 500 meters away in a parking house.
They called us that night and asked what time we want our kosher breakfast and what exactly we would like. The next morning 08-30 a jewish lady (not frum) brought the food to the room. Pastries from Koracz, fresh orange juice, jam..... All was very good and free as a diamond. The hotel even got a toy car for my boys, a very nice gesture.
We drove monday to Disneyworld, its about 45 min. from the hotel. The Disneyhotel and the New York hotel sell a special VIP pass, that gives you the right to skip all lines. It costs 60 Euros p.p. Expensive, but worth it for one day if you travel with little kids. Thats not including the entrance. We parked in the parkinglot of the hotel, as the guard let us in to pick up our vip pass (saved 20 Euros). Please note, you can only get the Vip Pass at these 2 places and they only sell a limited amount a day. I bought the entrance tickets online the night before, its ablout 20% cheaper. 53 Euros a person, even kids. With the vip pass, it was 113 Euros a person, not very cheap.
It was a very nice day, we left at 9 PM, the kids enjoyed it very much. I hate mickey mouse since then ;-)
We only made it back to Paris 10-30, so we picked up some food from LeShine. It was very good, its a 15 min drive from the hotel.
Tuesday, we took a bus tour through Paris. Was very nice and we were able to jump on and of as we wanted. Didnt go to the louvre with the kids. At 17-00 we arrived to the Eiffeltower, but the wait was about 2 hours, so no thank you. We took a boat up the river from there and walked 20 min back to the hotel from the closest boatstop. We had supper in Darjeeling (indian food), was good and something else for once. Its not far from Leshine. That night I ordered online tickets for the eiffeltower. You can book it online for a set time and dont have to wait then. I booked the next night 21-00, I can only recommend to book about this time in the summer, as we got to see Paris during the day and night like this.
Wednesday, we went to Versailles. I will not write about it, google it. Line was very short, we also ordered tickets online the night before. After we got back (30 min drive) we went shopping at Gallery Lafayette. Its 10 min walk from the hotel and a famous shopping center in paris. They have all brands and are very big. We had supper in Leshine, their sushi was also very good. I drove to the Eiffeltower from there (5 min), there was parking 5 mins walk away for 3 Euros a hour. We skipped the line and got to the elevator with our reserved tickets after 5 min. Really nice up there, great view ( 21-20 day, 22-00 night )
Thursday, we left the hotel at 12 and drove to the airport after picking up a hot pastrami sandwich from a place right next to Koracz with Rav Rottenbergs Hechsher, I think its called mickeys. CDG airport is very big, we almost missed our flight. Be there early, as some terminals can only be reched by bus or train from the main Terminal.
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Main expenses besides food

2 rooms 4 nights Park Hyatt Paris      FFN redemption
kosher breakfast                            free as diamond
Car 4 days                                    190 Euros
Disney 4 people                              210 Euros
Vip Pass disney                              180 Euros
Versailles-online   kids free                26 Euros
Eiffeltower    kids from 4 years old      36 Euros
Boatride             "                           15 Euros
Tourbus per person, kids from 3 years  23 Euros

I hope this tr will help someone in the future. Please feel free to ask, if you have questions
   
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 29, 2010, 07:19:41 PM
Nice report!

The skip-the-line pass sounds worthwhile.  I went to Cedar Point (roller coaster capital of the world) the other day and a similar pass is $400 per person!

Free valet does indeed sound awesome, but even if I had known that i wouldn't have rented a car when the RoissyBus goes nonstop to the Park Hyatt Paris for dirt cheap and the metro is equally dirt cheap and efficient.

The Park Hyatt is truly an awesome experience though!  They gave us pastries, bread, jam, and juice on some of the days and fancy cheeses on another.  They'll get whatever you want for free though.  I asked for a cheesecake one day and they came through!

Did you check out the spa at they Park Hyatt?

Sorry you didn't enjoy Pitzman, seems like people either love it or can't understand what the fuss is about.  Personally we found it to be a nice change from American Pizza.

LeShine was fine, but the chinese food was not much better than what i can get accross the street from me in Cleveland.  Although I recall their egg rolls being quite delicious.

Did you miss the chocolate shops though???
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 29, 2010, 07:28:02 PM
im surprised that as a european, you would demand an automatic. i thought you guys were weaned on the stick!? nice report though
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 29, 2010, 07:41:21 PM
I got my license in new york, so i cant drive stick-shift
if you are a couple subway is fine, but i didnt want to chase 3 kids in the metro and shlep a stroller up and down the stairs.
I thought the spa was average, very small and nothing special, but its a spa in the best area of paris, so space is very expensive.
The food service was really nice, i asked for lox and they served it every morning.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 29, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
if you are a couple subway is fine, but i didnt want to chase 3 kids in the metro and shlep a stroller up and down the stairs.
+1, and with free valet it's a no brainer with a few kids.

I thought the spa was average, very small and nothing special, but its a spa in the best area of paris, so space is very expensive.
There's a very large hot tub, a dry sauna, and a wet sauna.
It's definitely one of the only spa facilities I've seen where it's mixed gender, but we never saw another soul in there.  The free chilled bottles of water and fruit is nice as well.
What else do you want?

The food service was really nice, i asked for lox and they served it every morning.
Yup, they'll pretty much get you anything as a diamond.

They even gave me 18K points because of some noise that woke us up one day!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 29, 2010, 08:01:22 PM
In europe most spas are mixed!
It was nice, but very small. Most fancy hotels have biggers spas, with a small pool as well, but it was ok. Nothing special, but nice.
Yes, they are mechubad the diamond status, cant complain, service was topnotch!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 29, 2010, 08:05:53 PM
By the way i asked them for babysitting, they wanted 25 euros for a cab and 35 euros per hour. Only 2 kids per babysitter. So if my 3 kids would be sleeping at night and i wanted to go out with my wife i would have needed 2 babysitters, that would have been 100 dollars an hour. That was a little much! So i said, merci, but no no
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 30, 2010, 12:01:44 PM
By the way, the best part was. After 4 amazing days, 2 rooms with breakfast, wireless internet I came to check out and they say: Your Bill is zero Euros, thank you very much for staying with us. The pleasure was all mine, I said ;-)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 30, 2010, 12:07:54 PM
In europe most spas are mixed!


 In many European Countries its even worse (or better for some) not only is it mixed but for non-pool areas its bathing suit/clothing optional, which includes running into a full family sitting in a sauna or steam all dressed in their Birthday Suits
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 30, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
In many European Countries its even worse (or better for some) not only is it mixed but for non-pool areas its bathing suit/clothing optional, which includes running into a full family sitting in a sauna or steam all dressed in their Birthday Suits
Well then, I'm quite happy we never saw anyone in the PHP spa!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 30, 2010, 12:11:01 PM
Nice report!

The skip-the-line pass sounds worthwhile.  I went to Cedar Point (roller coaster capital of the world) the other day and a similar pass is $400 per person!

 was that for the day or season? per person
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 30, 2010, 12:30:51 PM
was that for the day or season? per person
That's for one day, per person!
They say people fly in from Europe just to go to Cedar Point for the day and the pass is basically the only way to hit up every coaster in the park in a single day.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ceejay on November 23, 2010, 05:29:03 PM
Are there any authentic Parisian restaurants that are glatt? (not Indian or Chinese I can get those in Brooklyn)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 23, 2010, 05:40:31 PM
where is there an indian restaurant in bklyn?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ceejay on November 23, 2010, 06:15:27 PM
I didn't specifically mean Brooklyn in the tristate area http://www.shalombombay.com/ http://www.dakshinkosher.com/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 23, 2010, 11:50:35 PM
you can also get french food in ny
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: E on November 24, 2010, 12:50:18 AM
you can also get french food in ny
obviously not the point.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 24, 2010, 02:25:11 AM
what is the point then?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on January 03, 2011, 11:16:20 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for a hotel deal in Paris using Starwood points, membership rewards points, airline mileage or otherwise? We’re going in March for 3 nights. Thanks a lot!

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: momo on January 03, 2011, 08:45:16 PM
sign up for the hyatt card from chase for you and you and your wife. You will be able to stay at the park hyatt for free for 4 nights (well not free cuz each card has 75$ yearly fee)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2011, 08:48:09 PM
Or trade Starpoints for Hyatt points from a Diamond member and be prepared for an incredible experience at the PH Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 08:38:51 AM
how can you trade starpoints in this day and age?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 04, 2011, 08:40:41 AM
how can you trade starpoints in this day and age?
You can book hotel stays for others...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 09:20:05 AM
eh
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on January 04, 2011, 11:48:54 AM
Thanks all for the great leads. I'm going to get a Chase Hyatt Card for 2 free nights. But it would be nice to get the Diamond member experience. Is there any way for me to get Diamond status without the hotel stays?

Any Diamond members interested in trading Hyatt nights for Starwood or Amex Membership Rewards points?

Also, is there any chance I can cancel my new Chase card for a refund of the annual fee after I use the free nights?

Thanks again for all your help.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on January 04, 2011, 11:52:24 AM

Also, is there any chance I can cancel my new Chase card for a refund of the annual fee after I use the free nights?

Thanks again for all your help.

Isnt that a little cheap? For 75 Dollars you got a good value?!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 04, 2011, 11:53:38 AM
Isnt that a little cheap? For 75 Dollars you got a good value?!
hes a mile chazzer
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on January 04, 2011, 12:25:14 PM
hes a mile chazzer

Well said!! It's certainly good value, but the $75 fee is for ongoing use of the card, and I really have no need for another Visa card.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moe on January 04, 2011, 01:09:24 PM
hes a mile chazzer
or just a (plain) chazzer...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yare on January 25, 2011, 06:13:02 PM
the spg prince de galles looks pretty nice... is the gh supposed to be that much nicer?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2011, 06:28:11 PM
the spg prince de galles looks pretty nice... is the gh supposed to be that much nicer?
There is no GH Paris, it's a PH.  And it's one of the finest hotels in the world.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 02, 2011, 04:50:52 PM
Found this link from the LA Times website today. Thought it might be of interest to those trying to plan "Jewish" visits to Paris (and other parts of France).

Here is the link: http://us.franceguide.com/Special-Interests/Jewish-Traveler/home.html?NodeID=2787
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 07, 2011, 02:07:33 PM
Does anyone who has been to Paris know how the hashgachas work (besides that beth din isn't glatt)? If a restaurant is beth din does that mean automatically their meat is not glatt or could one call to find out where they get their meat from?

Are there any fine dining options that are glatt (i.e., Rottenberg) that people can recommend?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2011, 02:09:21 PM
Does anyone who has been to Paris know how the hashgachas work (besides that beth din isn't glatt)? If a restaurant is beth din does that mean automatically their meat is not glatt or could one call to find out where they get their meat from?

Are there any fine dining options that are glatt (i.e., Rottenberg) that people can recommend?
People told us to avoid meat restaurants with just Beth Din, but that milchig ones were cholov yisroel even if just under Beth Din. 
I can't vouch for that though.

Darjeeling is an Indian fine dining restaurant under Rottenberg.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 07, 2011, 02:14:41 PM
People told us to avoid meat restaurants with just Beth Din, but that milchig ones were cholov yisroel even if just under Beth Din. 
I can't vouch for that though.

Darjeeling is an Indian fine dining restaurant under Rottenberg.

That's too bad because some of these restaurants really look spectacular. Thanks for the Darjeeling tip, looks great and I love Indian food!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2011, 02:18:45 PM
That's too bad because some of these restaurants really look spectacular. Thanks for the Darjeeling tip, looks great and I love Indian food!
You can read more in my paris trip notes on the main site.

And some of the Beth Din restaurants do indeed look fantastic...a shame indeed!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 07, 2011, 02:19:40 PM
You can read more in my paris trip notes on the main site.

Thanks, I was planning on getting to that again also. I read it when you first posted it, but haven't looked at it since I started looking into planning a trip.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on February 07, 2011, 03:12:30 PM
I used the Chabad hechsher as well. heard it was good. There is a good chinese restaurant Leshine, really enjoyed it. They offer valet parking, if you have a car really helpful.
We went to Darjaleeng or whatever its calles. I was not impressed...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 07, 2011, 07:49:30 PM
Speaking of Kashrut in Paris (or as they call it cacheroute), I've heard there's a chain of Kosher sushi places under the chabad haskacha. It's called Sushiwest. Anybody have any info on whether they are any good?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 07, 2011, 07:52:38 PM
Speaking of Kashrut in Paris (or as they call it cacheroute), I've heard there's a chain of Kosher sushi places under the chabad haskacha. It's called Sushiwest. Anybody have any info on whether they are any good?

No idea if its any good, but here are some reviews from 123cacher.com: http://www.123cacher.com/en/kosher_restaurant/sushiwest.html
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 07, 2011, 07:55:26 PM
Thanks LAXtraveler.
So it seems that at least that particular branch is decent.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on February 07, 2011, 08:38:00 PM
I used the Chabad hechsher as well. heard it was good. There is a good chinese restaurant Leshine, really enjoyed it. They offer valet parking, if you have a car really helpful.
We went to Darjaleeng or whatever its calles. I was not impressed...
Sorry to hear that. We went to Darjeeling and loved it. great value too as I recall for their rack of lamb tandoori
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2011, 09:20:43 PM
Sorry to hear that. We went to Darjeeling and loved it. great value too as I recall for their rack of lamb tandoori
Chuchem also didn't care for Pitzman, which just about every other person I spoke to raved about.
Perhaps if they had a Thomy pizza ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 08, 2011, 02:42:20 AM
some ppl would rather subsational over prime grill - they dont understand good food
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 08, 2011, 02:46:11 AM
I'd rather a lot of things over Prime Grill (at least the NY one), and it has nothing to do with the food. Atmosphere should count for something, and I've never been in Prime Grill when they weren't shoehorning customers in at the expense of being able to sit comfortably and hear your table-mates.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on February 08, 2011, 02:46:49 AM
some ppl would rather subsational over prime grill - they dont understand good food

Perhaps the PG ppl don't understand a good grease-joint :D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 08, 2011, 02:47:57 AM
I've never been in Prime Grill when they weren't shoehorning customers in at the expense of being able to sit comfortably and hear your table-mates.
+1
The LA version on Rodeo drive was exactly as the NY one ought to be.  Shame it didn't survive.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 08, 2011, 02:49:26 AM
Solo is what Prime Grill ought to be.
I don't get how the same company can run two restaurants in the same city in such opposite fashion.


Back on topic...
What's the best place to get a good steak in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 08, 2011, 08:23:33 AM
Perhaps the PG ppl don't understand a good grease-joint :D
i appreciate that genre of food as well. but i would never say its better than fine dining.
im sorry if you cant understand the distinction
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 08, 2011, 08:24:13 AM
Back on topic...
What's the best place to get a good steak in Paris?
good or glatt kosher?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 08, 2011, 12:31:21 PM
good or glatt kosher?

I'm looking for Kosher. But do you know the best non-kosher restaurants in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on February 08, 2011, 01:53:53 PM
i appreciate that genre of food as well. but i would never say its better than fine dining.
im sorry if you cant understand the distinction

I never said one is better than the other. And yes, I understand the distinction, but you're proving you don't.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yid on February 08, 2011, 02:51:16 PM
Anyone recommend any nice hotels in Paris that are less than $150 a night?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 08, 2011, 07:04:48 PM
I never said one is better than the other. And yes, I understand the distinction, but you're proving you don't.
are you aware of any smiley faces with one eyebrow up?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 15, 2011, 01:00:31 AM
Anyone recommend any nice hotels in Paris that are less than $150 a night?

The Park Hyatt Vendome with FFN or the Hyatt Credit Card free nights. (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2011, 10:16:57 PM
The Park Hyatt Vendome with FFN or the Hyatt Credit Card free nights. (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/)
Waiting for that trip report :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on February 16, 2011, 01:17:44 AM
Trip report for Paris:

I got the Iberia $251 deal(Shkoyach Dan!!) and booked a ticket JFK-CDG on 1/31 returning Milan-JFK 2/15. I live in Miami so it was hard to swallow the separate fares to NY(almost as much as the international fare!). Having the Amex Plat(thanks again Dan!) helped with the luggage fees(let's not forget the Admiral's Club 8)). I took my wife and 2 children along(both infants). The hardest part of the trip planning was deciding which stroller to bring. We have a Graco Quattro Duo train(oh, I mean double stroller) which is a pain maneuvering around paved roads, never mind traveling with(40 pounds plus the kids!!!). After hours of research we decided with the Britax B-Ready, which is similar to the phil and ted double decker. A side by side is an impracticality in Europe with its narrow doorways and sidewalks. It came from amazon a few hours before the flight to NY and I was able to assemble it just in time. Though we have traveled with our oldest daughter to places as far as Australia, it was not as challenging as traveling with 2 infants(youngest 3 months ka"h). Since this is a Paris thread I will be brief with our five day stay in NY: After a cancelled flight we re-booked ourselves on the last flight coming into LGA. Snow, snow, snow!! It was such a shlepp carrying luggage and a stroller fully loaded! Anyways, being that taking the RER train from CDG to Paris wasn't feasible with two kids and 3 suitcases, I reserved a private van with car seats taking us directly to our place. After many days of research I got a vacation rental in the Pletzel. It was a better value than most hotels for the price. I initially wanted to book the Prince Galles, however 9000 points plus $150 wasn't worth it based on the reviews I read on tripadvisor. When we came it was pitch dark until about 8:30AM. The apartment was listed as a 6th floor apartment with an elevator; just what I need considering I'm shlepping two kids on a stroller and baggages. When we arrived to our apartment building we were utterly dismayed that the elevator was 2 by 2 feet. I'm not kidding; this was the smallest elevator I've ever seen. We had to made several trips. Also, we had to go down 1 flight of stairs. Besides for the reaching-the-apartment(and back) inconvenience, the apartment was decent albeit petite. A laptop with internet(weren't able to properly use it due to the french configurations) in addition to free WIFI. This was neccessary, as my wife teaches on the online Shluchim school. Food wasn't an issue as we were staying as mentioned above at the Pletzel(Jewish Quarter). I filled up the sim card provided by the apartment owner to make outgoing calls(incoming was free). Instead of going in the Eiffel Tower we decided to get a view OF the ET. We got off on the station Trocadero. Nearby is a square with the best view of the tower. We went at night to see it in its full glory. Those peddlers trying to sell mini towers were just so annoying ::). We visited the Louvre museum and obviously saw the Mona Lisa. To get there you have to pass through the Italian section which features a lot of Avoda Zorah images Jews shouldn't see. We blocked our children's eyes with the stroller canopies. The palace rooms of the museum were just amazing. Such Grandeur! We skipped Versailles due to the extensive commuting it would take(It's overhyped anyway; I was there before). To save luggage space I decided to wash and press my shirts in Paris so as to bring fewer clothing. What a shock it was to me that 6.60 Euro was asked of me for each shirt!(It's twice as much in Switzerland btw). The violence antisemitism widely believed to be present in Paris is overblown. Paris is very safe to walk around dressed like a frum yid. Obviously you have to avoid the suburbs and dangerous neighborhoods at night. The architectural layout of the city is very unique albeit dirty. What I observed about Europe in general is that this whole continent smokes like there's no tomorrow! Also, many Europeans have a habit of parking themselves in the middle of the sidewalk and casually block pedestrian traffic as they converse amongst themselves. Friday we asked Bochurim on Mivtzoim to help shlepp our baggages to Brunoy; we were to spend Shabbos there. I learned in Brunoy 5765-6, so it was a most nostalgic experience. We stayed at a nice family. Friday night I learned a sicho with a shliach whom I've known from before. Shabbos day I learned Chassidus with the same Bochur and enjoyed a Brunoy-Shacharis. I reunited with friends and Mashpiyim/Roshei Yeshivah and spend the rest of the day eating and farbrenging with the bochurim(My wife let me). After minchah I joined a farbrengen with one of my favorite mashpiyim which went till almost 10PM. This Shabbos was by far the peak of the trip. The radiating holiness that permeated the place was exhilirating. Early Sunday morning we took a taxi to the Gare de L'Est station to take us to Lucerne. Stay tuned for my Switzerland and Italy trip notes!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on February 16, 2011, 01:20:24 AM
mshor, welcome to DDF.

Great first post!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 16, 2011, 01:21:39 AM
Welcome to DDF!

I'd love to read, but it's giving me a bit of a headache.

Can you add some paragraphs to it to make it easier to read?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on February 16, 2011, 10:03:45 AM
Paragraphed version(from now on I'll try to use paragraphs.)

Trip report for Paris:


I got the Iberia $251 deal(Shkoyach Dan!!) and booked a ticket JFK-CDG on 1/31 returning Milan-JFK 2/15. I live in Miami so it was hard to swallow the separate fares to NY(almost as much as the international fare!). Having the Amex Plat(thanks again Dan!) helped with the luggage fees(let's not forget the Admiral's Club ).

 I took my wife and 2 children along(both infants). The hardest part of the trip planning was deciding which stroller to bring. We have a Graco Quattro Duo train(oh, I mean double stroller) which is a pain maneuvering around paved roads, never mind traveling with(40 pounds plus the kids!!!). After hours of research we decided with the Britax B-Ready, which is similar to the phil and ted double decker. A side by side is an impracticality in Europe with its narrow doorways and sidewalks. It came from amazon a few hours before the flight to NY and I was able to assemble it just in time. Though we have traveled with our oldest daughter to places as far as Australia, it was not as challenging as traveling with 2 infants(youngest 3 months ka"h).

 Since this is a Paris thread I will be brief with our five day stay in NY: After a cancelled flight we re-booked ourselves on the last flight coming into LGA. Snow, snow, snow!! It was such a shlepp carrying luggage and a stroller fully loaded! Anyways, being that taking the RER train from CDG to Paris wasn't feasible with two kids and 3 suitcases, I reserved a private van with car seats taking us directly to our place.

 After many days of research I got a vacation rental in the Pletzel. It was a better value than most hotels for the price. I initially wanted to book the Prince Galles, however 9000 points plus $150 wasn't worth it based on the reviews I read on tripadvisor. When we came it was pitch dark until about 8:30AM. The apartment was listed as a 6th floor apartment with an elevator; just what I need considering I'm shlepping two kids on a stroller and baggages.

 When we arrived to our apartment building we were utterly dismayed that the elevator was 2 by 2 feet. I'm not kidding; this was the smallest elevator I've ever seen. We had to made several trips. Also, we had to go down 1 flight of stairs. Besides for the reaching-the-apartment(and back) inconvenience, the apartment was decent albeit petite. A laptop with internet(weren't able to properly use it due to the french configurations) in addition to free WIFI. This was neccessary, as my wife teaches on the online Shluchim school. Food wasn't an issue as we were staying as mentioned above at the Pletzel(Jewish Quarter). I filled up the sim card provided by the apartment owner to make outgoing calls(incoming was free).

Instead of going in the Eiffel Tower we decided to get a view OF the ET. We got off on the station Trocadero. Nearby is a square with the best view of the tower. We went at night to see it in its full glory. Those peddlers trying to sell mini towers were just so annoying . We visited the Louvre museum and obviously saw the Mona Lisa. To get there you have to pass through the Italian section which features a lot of Avoda Zorah images Jews shouldn't see. We blocked our children's eyes with the stroller canopies. The palace rooms of the museum were just amazing. Such Grandeur! We skipped Versailles due to the extensive commuting it would take(It's overhyped anyway; I was there before).

To save luggage space I decided to wash and press my shirts in Paris so as to bring fewer clothing. What a shock it was to me that 6.60 Euro was asked of me for each shirt!(It's twice as much in Switzerland btw). The violence antisemitism widely believed to be present in Paris is overblown. Paris is very safe to walk around dressed like a frum yid. Obviously you have to avoid the suburbs and dangerous neighborhoods at night. The architectural layout of the city is very unique albeit dirty.

What I observed about Europe in general is that this whole continent smokes like there's no tomorrow! Also, many Europeans have a habit of parking themselves in the middle of the sidewalk and casually block pedestrian traffic as they converse amongst themselves. Friday we asked Bochurim on Mivtzoim to help shlepp our baggages to Brunoy; we were to spend Shabbos there. I learned in Brunoy 5765-6, so it was a most nostalgic experience. We stayed at a nice family. Friday night I learned a sicho with a shliach whom I've known from before. Shabbos day I learned Chassidus with the same Bochur and enjoyed a Brunoy-Shacharis. I reunited with friends and Mashpiyim/Roshei Yeshivah and spend the rest of the day eating and farbrenging with the bochurim(My wife let me). After minchah I joined a farbrengen with one of my favorite mashpiyim which went till almost 10PM. This Shabbos was by far the peak of the trip. The radiating holiness that permeated the place was exhilirating. Early Sunday morning we took a taxi to the Gare de L'Est station to take us to Lucerne.

Stay tuned for my Switzerland and Italy trip notes!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 16, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions of specific kosher sidewalk cafes/coffee shops (preferably in the 01 district, but anywhere is fine) that are worthwhile to go to for a coffee, danish and relaxing time with the wife while in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 16, 2011, 07:40:32 PM
Waiting for that trip report :)
I will try to get to it tonight, just getting back into the swing of things at work.
Meanwhile, did you see the Frugal Traveler (Seth Kugel) from the New York times tried to do a weekend in Paris for 100 Dollars?
http://frugaltraveler.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/laddition-how-100-lasted-a-weekend-in-paris/
I would say he had some interesting things to do, but I doubt this would be possible to do kosher.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on February 16, 2011, 07:47:44 PM
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Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 16, 2011, 08:22:34 PM
Paragraphed version(from now on I'll try to use paragraphs.)

Trip report for Paris:


I got the Iberia $251 deal(Shkoyach Dan!!) and booked a ticket JFK-CDG on 1/31 returning Milan-JFK 2/15. I live in Miami so it was hard to swallow the separate fares to NY(almost as much as the international fare!). Having the Amex Plat(thanks again Dan!) helped with the luggage fees(let's not forget the Admiral's Club ).

 I took my wife and 2 children along(both infants). The hardest part of the trip planning was deciding which stroller to bring. We have a Graco Quattro Duo train(oh, I mean double stroller) which is a pain maneuvering around paved roads, never mind traveling with(40 pounds plus the kids!!!). After hours of research we decided with the Britax B-Ready, which is similar to the phil and ted double decker. A side by side is an impracticality in Europe with its narrow doorways and sidewalks. It came from amazon a few hours before the flight to NY and I was able to assemble it just in time. Though we have traveled with our oldest daughter to places as far as Australia, it was not as challenging as traveling with 2 infants(youngest 3 months ka"h).

 Since this is a Paris thread I will be brief with our five day stay in NY: After a cancelled flight we re-booked ourselves on the last flight coming into LGA. Snow, snow, snow!! It was such a shlepp carrying luggage and a stroller fully loaded! Anyways, being that taking the RER train from CDG to Paris wasn't feasible with two kids and 3 suitcases, I reserved a private van with car seats taking us directly to our place.

 After many days of research I got a vacation rental in the Pletzel. It was a better value than most hotels for the price. I initially wanted to book the Prince Galles, however 9000 points plus $150 wasn't worth it based on the reviews I read on tripadvisor. When we came it was pitch dark until about 8:30AM. The apartment was listed as a 6th floor apartment with an elevator; just what I need considering I'm shlepping two kids on a stroller and baggages.

 When we arrived to our apartment building we were utterly dismayed that the elevator was 2 by 2 feet. I'm not kidding; this was the smallest elevator I've ever seen. We had to made several trips. Also, we had to go down 1 flight of stairs. Besides for the reaching-the-apartment(and back) inconvenience, the apartment was decent albeit petite. A laptop with internet(weren't able to properly use it due to the french configurations) in addition to free WIFI. This was neccessary, as my wife teaches on the online Shluchim school. Food wasn't an issue as we were staying as mentioned above at the Pletzel(Jewish Quarter). I filled up the sim card provided by the apartment owner to make outgoing calls(incoming was free).

Instead of going in the Eiffel Tower we decided to get a view OF the ET. We got off on the station Trocadero. Nearby is a square with the best view of the tower. We went at night to see it in its full glory. Those peddlers trying to sell mini towers were just so annoying . We visited the Louvre museum and obviously saw the Mona Lisa. To get there you have to pass through the Italian section which features a lot of Avoda Zorah images Jews shouldn't see. We blocked our children's eyes with the stroller canopies. The palace rooms of the museum were just amazing. Such Grandeur! We skipped Versailles due to the extensive commuting it would take(It's overhyped anyway; I was there before).

To save luggage space I decided to wash and press my shirts in Paris so as to bring fewer clothing. What a shock it was to me that 6.60 Euro was asked of me for each shirt!(It's twice as much in Switzerland btw). The violence antisemitism widely believed to be present in Paris is overblown. Paris is very safe to walk around dressed like a frum yid. Obviously you have to avoid the suburbs and dangerous neighborhoods at night. The architectural layout of the city is very unique albeit dirty.

What I observed about Europe in general is that this whole continent smokes like there's no tomorrow! Also, many Europeans have a habit of parking themselves in the middle of the sidewalk and casually block pedestrian traffic as they converse amongst themselves. Friday we asked Bochurim on Mivtzoim to help shlepp our baggages to Brunoy; we were to spend Shabbos there. I learned in Brunoy 5765-6, so it was a most nostalgic experience. We stayed at a nice family. Friday night I learned a sicho with a shliach whom I've known from before. Shabbos day I learned Chassidus with the same Bochur and enjoyed a Brunoy-Shacharis. I reunited with friends and Mashpiyim/Roshei Yeshivah and spend the rest of the day eating and farbrenging with the bochurim(My wife let me). After minchah I joined a farbrengen with one of my favorite mashpiyim which went till almost 10PM. This Shabbos was by far the peak of the trip. The radiating holiness that permeated the place was exhilirating. Early Sunday morning we took a taxi to the Gare de L'Est station to take us to Lucerne.

Stay tuned for my Switzerland and Italy trip notes!
Very nice report!
Can't even imagine how difficult that must have been with infants!

But for me, at least half the fun of Paris was the heavenly Park Hyatt :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: misterstuf on February 16, 2011, 09:26:43 PM
...at least half the fun of Paris was the heavenly Park Hyatt :)

+1,000,000
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Avid Reader on February 16, 2011, 09:41:50 PM
Paragraphed version(from now on I'll try to use paragraphs.)

Trip report for Paris:


I got the Iberia $251 deal(Shkoyach Dan!!) and booked a ticket JFK-CDG on 1/31 returning Milan-JFK 2/15. I live in Miami so it was hard to swallow the separate fares to NY(almost as much as the international fare!). Having the Amex Plat(thanks again Dan!) helped with the luggage fees(let's not forget the Admiral's Club ).

 I took my wife and 2 children along(both infants). The hardest part of the trip planning was deciding which stroller to bring. We have a Graco Quattro Duo train(oh, I mean double stroller) which is a pain maneuvering around paved roads, never mind traveling with(40 pounds plus the kids!!!). After hours of research we decided with the Britax B-Ready, which is similar to the phil and ted double decker. A side by side is an impracticality in Europe with its narrow doorways and sidewalks. It came from amazon a few hours before the flight to NY and I was able to assemble it just in time. Though we have traveled with our oldest daughter to places as far as Australia, it was not as challenging as traveling with 2 infants(youngest 3 months ka"h).

 Since this is a Paris thread I will be brief with our five day stay in NY: After a cancelled flight we re-booked ourselves on the last flight coming into LGA. Snow, snow, snow!! It was such a shlepp carrying luggage and a stroller fully loaded! Anyways, being that taking the RER train from CDG to Paris wasn't feasible with two kids and 3 suitcases, I reserved a private van with car seats taking us directly to our place.

 After many days of research I got a vacation rental in the Pletzel. It was a better value than most hotels for the price. I initially wanted to book the Prince Galles, however 9000 points plus $150 wasn't worth it based on the reviews I read on tripadvisor. When we came it was pitch dark until about 8:30AM. The apartment was listed as a 6th floor apartment with an elevator; just what I need considering I'm shlepping two kids on a stroller and baggages.

 When we arrived to our apartment building we were utterly dismayed that the elevator was 2 by 2 feet. I'm not kidding; this was the smallest elevator I've ever seen. We had to made several trips. Also, we had to go down 1 flight of stairs. Besides for the reaching-the-apartment(and back) inconvenience, the apartment was decent albeit petite. A laptop with internet(weren't able to properly use it due to the french configurations) in addition to free WIFI. This was neccessary, as my wife teaches on the online Shluchim school. Food wasn't an issue as we were staying as mentioned above at the Pletzel(Jewish Quarter). I filled up the sim card provided by the apartment owner to make outgoing calls(incoming was free).

Instead of going in the Eiffel Tower we decided to get a view OF the ET. We got off on the station Trocadero. Nearby is a square with the best view of the tower. We went at night to see it in its full glory. Those peddlers trying to sell mini towers were just so annoying . We visited the Louvre museum and obviously saw the Mona Lisa. To get there you have to pass through the Italian section which features a lot of Avoda Zorah images Jews shouldn't see. We blocked our children's eyes with the stroller canopies. The palace rooms of the museum were just amazing. Such Grandeur! We skipped Versailles due to the extensive commuting it would take(It's overhyped anyway; I was there before).

To save luggage space I decided to wash and press my shirts in Paris so as to bring fewer clothing. What a shock it was to me that 6.60 Euro was asked of me for each shirt!(It's twice as much in Switzerland btw). The violence antisemitism widely believed to be present in Paris is overblown. Paris is very safe to walk around dressed like a frum yid. Obviously you have to avoid the suburbs and dangerous neighborhoods at night. The architectural layout of the city is very unique albeit dirty.

What I observed about Europe in general is that this whole continent smokes like there's no tomorrow! Also, many Europeans have a habit of parking themselves in the middle of the sidewalk and casually block pedestrian traffic as they converse amongst themselves. Friday we asked Bochurim on Mivtzoim to help shlepp our baggages to Brunoy; we were to spend Shabbos there. I learned in Brunoy 5765-6, so it was a most nostalgic experience. We stayed at a nice family. Friday night I learned a sicho with a shliach whom I've known from before. Shabbos day I learned Chassidus with the same Bochur and enjoyed a Brunoy-Shacharis. I reunited with friends and Mashpiyim/Roshei Yeshivah and spend the rest of the day eating and farbrenging with the bochurim(My wife let me). After minchah I joined a farbrengen with one of my favorite mashpiyim which went till almost 10PM. This Shabbos was by far the peak of the trip. The radiating holiness that permeated the place was exhilirating. Early Sunday morning we took a taxi to the Gare de L'Est station to take us to Lucerne.

Stay tuned for my Switzerland and Italy trip notes!

Nice report from my Venice DD buddy! Welcome to the forum. Looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on February 18, 2011, 11:27:44 AM
where would be a nice place for breakfast in Paris? Bagel/omelet etc
Also are there any good fast-food places? Burger etc
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 22, 2011, 06:58:16 PM
Anyone ever pray at the Great Synagogue in Paris? On Google Maps its showing up as a 12 minute walk from the PH Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: youG on February 24, 2011, 02:03:11 AM
There is a great cafe chain called tibs
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 24, 2011, 07:25:42 PM
Anyone ever use Virgin Mobile prepaid SIM when in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on March 23, 2011, 12:51:20 AM
Can anyone tell me what the closest shul is and what the closest kosher restaurants/stores are to the Park Hyatt?
Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 23, 2011, 01:43:35 PM
Can anyone tell me what the closest shul is and what the closest kosher restaurants/stores are to the Park Hyatt?
Thanks

Closest shuls I found were in the 9th. Places like Rachi and Great Synagogue are both there. There are some restaurants right around there as well-depends on what hashgacha you hold by as well.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 23, 2011, 01:45:03 PM
Can anyone tell me what the closest shul is and what the closest kosher restaurants/stores are to the Park Hyatt?
Thanks
Did you read my trip report?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on March 23, 2011, 02:01:32 PM
Did you read my trip report?

Yes, and it was an excellent report, thanks. And I just read it again to be sure I didn't miss anything.
I think the gist of it is that there are no kosher options in the immediate area, but there are plenty beyond the immediate area that are easily accessible by metro.

As for the closest shul - there seems to be Chabad shul across the street from the rear entrance of the PH, but I'm not sure how active it is or how regular the minyanim are.  I also know the Great Synagogue is around a 15min walk and there is also Adass Yereim a few minutes further.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on March 23, 2011, 02:04:21 PM
Did you read my trip report?

As for the glatt meat issues, I've been hearing from some locals that many of the Beth Din restaurants will serve you "Beit Yosef Chalak" meat upon request.  I was wondering what you'd heard about this, and what your take is.

Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 23, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
As for the glatt meat issues, I've been hearing from some locals that many of the Beth Din restaurants will serve you "Beit Yosef Chalak" meat upon request.  I was wondering what you'd heard about this, and what your take is.

Thanks

If you're worried about your kashrus make sure to also consult your rabbi, not just the rest of us here in the blogosphere. In my tirp report I outlined a number of restaurants and my thoughts on them (and their hashgachas).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on March 23, 2011, 05:11:44 PM
If you're worried about your kashrus make sure to also consult your rabbi, not just the rest of us here in the blogosphere. In my tirp report I outlined a number of restaurants and my thoughts on them (and their hashgachas).

Don't worry, I was going to askmoses as well. But I appreciate the experience and input from my fellow dansdealers regardless.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 23, 2011, 05:41:13 PM
Don't worry, I was going to askmoses as well. But I appreciate the experience and input from my fellow dansdealers regardless.

Sounds like a good plan. For a quick suggestion, if you're planning on doing some good sightseeing definitely check out Rick Steves' {aris 2011 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1598806610/?tag=cl03f-20).

Enjoy your trip. If I get a chance to finish up my reviews of the activities we did before you leave, then I hope it helps (if not, I'm sorry).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Avid Reader on March 24, 2011, 03:30:49 AM
Sounds like a good plan. For a quick suggestion, if you're planning on doing some good sightseeing definitely check out Rick Steves' {aris 2011 (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1598806610/?tag=cl03f-20).

Enjoy your trip. If I get a chance to finish up my reviews of the activities we did before you leave, then I hope it helps (if not, I'm sorry).

Forgive me if I missed this: Can you point out some of the best things you saw in the museums?
Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 24, 2011, 02:39:48 PM
Forgive me if I missed this: Can you point out some of the best things you saw in the museums?
Thanks

Louvre: Mona Lisa, Venus de Milo, Winged Victory

Orsay: Van Gogh, Monet, Manet, Degas, Cezanne (all impressionist artists) that are amazing

Orangerie: Monet's huge lilly pads made specially for this venue (when he was living in Giverny).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on March 27, 2011, 05:32:10 AM
Thanks everyone for all the reports / suggestions.

Staying at the Park Hyatt for the weekend. Give the rates here, I can't say I'm that impressed. The service here is amazing - it seems like there is one hotel employee per guest here, and they escort or follow you around every step of the way (but I don't really care much for "in your face" service).  I think we're in a standard room with a view of the courtyard, and it's very nice, but I certainly wouldn't believe that they could charge $700-$1,000 for this.  The shower/bath area of the bathroom is amazing, but everything else in the room is not that impressive, showing some signs of wear, and overall nothing to write home about.

I'm a Platinum Gold Passport member and I asked for a upgrade at check in. They said they would try to find me one, but I think they gave me the standard room.  It's a corner room overlooking the courtyard, so instead of 2 sets of windows with a typical room configuration, this room very long, and has only one set of windows is in the corner at one end of the room next to the beds. I wanted to go back to the front desk and ask whether this was the "best room available within the category booked" (per the Platinum benefits), but it was Friday, we were exhausted, and there was too much to do before shabbos.....

Will try to do a full report when the trip is over...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 27, 2011, 09:16:41 AM
Thanks everyone for all the reports / suggestions.

Staying at the Park Hyatt for the weekend. Give the rates here, I can't say I'm that impressed. The service here is amazing - it seems like there is one hotel employee per guest here, and they escort or follow you around every step of the way (but I don't really care much for "in your face" service).  I think we're in a standard room with a view of the courtyard, and it's very nice, but I certainly wouldn't believe that they could charge $700-$1,000 for this.  The shower/bath area of the bathroom is amazing, but everything else in the room is not that impressive, showing some signs of wear, and overall nothing to write home about.

I'm a Platinum Gold Passport member and I asked for a upgrade at check in. They said they would try to find me one, but I think they gave me the standard room.  It's a corner room overlooking the courtyard, so instead of 2 sets of windows with a typical room configuration, this room very long, and has only one set of windows is in the corner at one end of the room next to the beds. I wanted to go back to the front desk and ask whether this was the "best room available within the category booked" (per the Platinum benefits), but it was Friday, we were exhausted, and there was too much to do before shabbos.....

Will try to do a full report when the trip is over...
Hyatt doesn't typically give upgrades to Plats.
Did you have nothing to match to diamond before the stay?  If there was ever a hotel to be diamond at, this is it!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on March 27, 2011, 11:47:57 AM
Hyatt doesn't typically give upgrades to Plats.
Did you have nothing to match to diamond before the stay?  If there was ever a hotel to be diamond at, this is it!

I couldn't come with anything to match for diamond status. Maybe I should've mentioned "dan sent me" at check in. Do you think that would help? 

At least I'm entitled to free internet (although every time I go online, it tells me I'm going to pay 19 euros for 24hrs).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on March 29, 2011, 01:25:10 AM
Just returned from a 3 ½ days in Paris, so I’ll try to recap the important things (i.e., the food). First off, thanks to Dan for the $251 Iberia/AA tickets and the Amex Platinum lounge access. Our hotel stay was sponsored Chase/Hyatt – thanks to momo for the credit card enrollment/free nights tip.  Admirals Club in JFK is a nice place to relax, but they don’t offer any free drinks (other than water, tea and coffee), no packaged snacks, and their wifi seems to be free for everyone but Amex Platinum cardholders. (When I inquired about access, they told me I’d have to sign up with T-Mobile and pay for access, although they seemed to be giving out free-day passes to some people.) The flight was uneventful. Unfortunately, we couldn’t upgrade our tickets because they were though Iberia.

When we arrived in CDG, we took the RoissyBus, which is very convenient and an excellent deal for anyone staying in the area of the Opera. (Thanks for the tip, Dan.)  We arrived at the PH at around 9am, and asked if we could check in early. They told us they didn’t have a room ready yet, but, but they took our luggage and we hung around the lobby a little, and then went out for a couple of hours.

Went to the Pletzel and headed straight for Pitzman. (After all the rave reviews around here, we didn’t waste any time…) We got to the restaurant late Friday morning, and it looked like they were just opening up. We ordered the pizza of course, and tried to order a couple of other things on the menu, but they didn’t seem to have a lot of choices available, and we ended up just having the plain pizza. The pizza was excellent, but we got our first taste of Paris restaurant pricing – every restaurant is overpriced by US standards, and you don’t need to look any further than the 3 to 6 Euro price tag on a small can or bottle of soda in every restaurant. All of the food at Pitzman looked very good (although we didn’t taste anything other than the pizza), but the “waiter” didn’t speak any English, and didn’t seem too interested in us.  If you go to Pitzman, be sure to check out the yarlmuke/mezuah/siddur vending machine hanging on the wall in the restaurant – it’s the first one I’ve seen anywhere.) Next we strolled the Pletzel and picked up some pastries/desert at Korkarz, a bakery on Rue de Rosier, which seems to have a pretty big tourist following. 

Went back to the hotel, where they had checked us in while we were out. One of the hotel’s 5-10 roving reception attendants (yes, there were that many) showed us to our room, where our luggage was waiting for us. Per my post above, I was not too impressed with our room. They had given us a corner room overlooking the courtyard, with a strange configuration, and the only windows located in one corner of the room next to the beds. I don’t know what the pricier rooms look like, but I certainly don’t see how they can justify charging the $800-$900/nt price for the room that I stayed in. Best part of the hotel - it was the nicest shower I’ve ever seen in a hotel (and there was a sink inside the shower too). Worst part of the hotel – There are so many hotel workers, who are trained to be in your face every step of the way at any time you are not in your room.  The spa was very nice, but we had to get past 3 different hotel workers on the way in, and each of them had to show us around and tell us about all the available treatements. When we asked for a fridge, they sent two people to empty our mini bar, so we could use it as a fridge.  When you enter the hotel at any time, there are 3-4 bellhops/concierges waiting at the entrance to wish you bonjour or bonsour and to offer to take your bags. When you walk around the lobby, at least 2 people will stop you and ask if you’d like a table for breakfast/lunch/dinner. While I’m sure there are those who appreciate this type of service, I found it a little annoying.

Headed out to some kosher supermarkets in the 12th district to buy food for shabbos, and bought some challah and pasties at Franck Souffan, an excellent pastry shop that area. (Interestingly, everything in the store seemed to be parve, so there is no milk or cheese in their pastries, and the sandwiches mostly involve tuna.) The Paris metro is great. We went through 30 tickets (though I didn’t do the math, so I’m not sure if the ten-trips were a better deal for us than the one-day or two-day passes).  Blvd Voltaire in the 12th district has a few kosher supermarkets, a couple of bakeries and sandwich shops, a chocolate store and some other restaurants all on a 2-block strip, so it’s a good place for shopping and eating. There’s also a small kosher gourmet grocery store (Koskas et Fils) if you’d like to stock up on foie gras, caviar, and other fancy foods that the French like to indulge in. 

Kashrus in Paris is complicated…. Most locals seem to eat anything (milchig or fleishig) certified by the Beth Din of Paris.  But most visitors from the US will eat only milchig under Beth Din of Paris, and won’t eat fleishig under that hechsher, because the BDP does not require meat to be glatt. The alternatives for meat restaurants are very limited, and there seem to be only a few certified by the local “glatt hechsherim”, with the main hechsher being Rabbi Rottenberg. Unfortunately, most or all of the finer meat restaurants are under BDP, so they will not be in your itinerary if you do not eat meat certified by the BDP.  In the grocery stores, there are a variety of packaged glatt meats available which are either from Israel, or certified by the Strassburg, Antwerp or Manchester hechsherim.  Although there is obviously merit to eating only in those restaurants that are certified by glatt hechsherim, if you are interested in more restaurant options, I would suggest that you speak to someone local that you trust for further guidance on hechsherim and glatt issues.  Some of the people that I spoke to said that BDP’s standards are generally acceptable for non-beef products, when glatt is not applicable. So chicken, duck, goose and possibly even veal may not be an issue. In addition, I learned that many or most of the meat restaurants in Paris have glatt beef available by request, or will arrange for it by request, if you reserve in advance. (They generally refer to glatt as “chalak” or “beit yosef chalak”.), I called a couple of the meat restaurants, and spoke to the proprietors and to the mashgichim.  They all seemed to get the chalak/glatt request pretty often. Some had 1-2 types of meat available in “chalak”, and one (more info below) told me that although they are under BDP, they only use chalak meat, because of the increased demand. Of course, everyone is advised to consult their respective rabbinic authority on this subject, but I thought it would be useful to share the product of my research.

On Shabbos, we davened at the Great Synagogue, locally known as the Synagoga de la Victoire. It is in the 9th district and an easy 12 minute walk from the PH.  The shul is 135 years old, seats a couple of thousand people, and is not to be missed.  On shabbos morning, they had a chazzan and choir, and there were quite a few interesting twists in the davening/program (which I won’t detail here), but it’s definitely worth seeing/experiencing for anyone within walking distance on shabbos. There was also a cold Kiddush after davening, where the locals mix.

After shabbos, we ate at Inte Café, a milchig restaurant (under BPD) which came highly recommended by a couple of people. The restaurant is supposed to be very trendy and casual, and has the soccer and rugby games playing on a few screens.  Everything that we ordered was very tasty, but certainly not exceptional, and like every restaurant in Paris, it’s hard to reconcile the prices on the menu. They did have an English menu though, which was very appreciated.
On Sunday, we ate falafel at one of the stores in the Pletzel. There are 2-3 falafel and/or shawarma stores on the street, and it’s quite a scene on Sundays with the competing store owners pitching their “best falafel” in the street and hundreds of tourists lining up outside the stores, as if the falafel is the biggest attraction in Paris. Falafel was good, but nothing special.

On Sunday night, we ate at O You, a meat BDP restaurant in the 12th district, which is known for its special foie gras (goose liver) menu. On a friend’s recommendation, I had called before and spoke to the mashgiach, who told me that all of their meat is chalak. When I arrived at the restaurant, I spoke to the manager and he told me that they now use only chalak meat, because it is requested by so many of their customers. (Given the prices, I think they can well afford any added expense for glatt meat.) The service was very slow, but the food was all very good. However, like all of the finer meat restaurants in Paris, the prices are in a different stratosphere, so be prepared …..

We checked out of the PH on Monday morning, and I would have had a zero-dollar hotel bill, if not for the hefty bill that they handed me for the toll free calls that I made to access my calling card. I didn’t want to waste time arguing when I had to catch the bus to the airport, but I’ll definitely be taking it up with Hyatt when I get home, since I had asked the concierge before making any calls, and he told me that there would be no hotel charges for the toll free access number.

The Admirals Club in Paris is very conveniently located directly beneath AA’s departure gates and waiting area, so you can hang out there right up until boarding time. They are far more generous with drinks than JFK’s lounge – there are sodas and beer in addition to all the usual drinks, free of charge.  Food on AA from Paris to JFK was catered by Hermolis (of the UK), so it was generally pretty good.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: E on March 29, 2011, 11:37:50 AM
nice report !!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on May 03, 2011, 02:40:00 PM
thanks u very much
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on May 11, 2011, 02:22:28 AM
Does anyone have any recommendations for a nice hotel (reasonably priced) near the Pletzel/Le Marais?

Thank you
Title: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: fdg9 on May 31, 2011, 07:04:53 PM
What started out aas a cool plan to enjoy the fameous french cuisine in Paris (i'm from NY), is looking like it's going to be a bust.

Yeah yeah, ok, I'll go to Dajeerling for 1 night out of the 6 we will be there. Other than that, I can't find 1 restaurant that is glatt kosher that I can go to that isn't chinese (not great reviews bytheway from what I'm reading for le shine), and a few falafel and pizza joints. I mean, i'll go to israel for falafel, and italy for pizza, but I want french food at its finest!

Now I saw a few posts how some places serve beit yosef, even though they are under beit din, but come on now, that's not going to cut it. We still don't know who the shochet is and whether the act of slaughtering meets the ashkenazi glatt standard. Just because they check the meet, post-slaughter, to a higher standard, does not make it fit for consumption. Bottom line, where does the meat come from and who is supervising it - Beit Din, which does not require glatt to begin with...

Where in the world can I go for true glatt french cuisine?
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: aussiebochur on May 31, 2011, 07:18:34 PM
NY ;)
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: elikay on May 31, 2011, 07:34:59 PM
I'm totally lost
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: AsherO on May 31, 2011, 07:46:18 PM
What started out aas a cool plan to enjoy the fameous french cuisine in Paris (i'm from NY), is looking like it's going to be a bust.

Yeah yeah, ok, I'll go to Dajeerling for 1 night out of the 6 we will be there. Other than that, I can't find 1 restaurant that is glatt kosher that I can go to that isn't chinese (not great reviews bytheway from what I'm reading for le shine), and a few falafel and pizza joints. I mean, i'll go to israel for falafel, and italy for pizza, but I want french food at its finest!

Now I saw a few posts how some places serve beit yosef, even though they are under beit din, but come on now, that's not going to cut it. We still don't know who the shochet is and whether the act of slaughtering meets the ashkenazi glatt standard. Just because they check the meet, post-slaughter, to a higher standard, does not make it fit for consumption. Bottom line, where does the meat come from and who is supervising it - Beit Din, which does not require glatt to begin with...

Where in the world can I go for true glatt french cuisine?

Welcome to the forums!

I'm totally lost

What don't you understand? The OP is looking for a French (fleishig) restaurant in Paris that's under a good (Ashkenaz) hashgacha.
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: fdg9 on May 31, 2011, 08:20:47 PM
Exactly right AsherO...
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: moish on May 31, 2011, 08:22:01 PM
welcome to the club of those of us that learn the hard truth, at least you found out before your trip
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2011, 08:35:39 PM
There are plenty of very good milchig restaurants and many will eat at the beth din ones for milk if not for meat.

Not sure what else for meat is any good besides Le Shine and Darjeeling. 

The bakeries and chocolatiers (Damyel's and Ardely's) are very good.
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: deals on May 31, 2011, 08:42:15 PM
french are know for there baguettes and maybe dairy stuff
so like aussie said for meat u come to N.Y
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: milechazzer on June 07, 2011, 02:06:15 PM
I would suggest that you find someone in/from Paris whose kashrus standards you are comfortable with, and ask them for guidance regarding the fleishig restaurants.  You'll probably get a much picture than you'll get here.
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: ceejay on June 15, 2011, 02:20:25 PM
AFAIK They aren't any glatt kosher "French cuisine" style restaurants. The fact is that a lot of french cuisine is inherently not kosher (escargot,pig,rabbit) so you arent missing much.
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: moish on June 16, 2011, 12:14:51 PM
The fact is that a lot of french cuisine is inherently not kosher (escargot,pig,rabbit) so you arent missing much.
thats one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in a long time
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: aussiebochur on June 16, 2011, 12:18:04 PM
thats one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in a long time
They do enjoy a good frog.
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: moish on June 16, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
what about pig?
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 20, 2011, 08:42:34 PM
I am in Paris for for one night arriving at five and leaving next morning with my wife. Both of us have never been there. Where should we stay?
Title: Re: Getting depressed about Paris...
Post by: moish on June 20, 2011, 08:44:35 PM
probably an airport hotel
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 20, 2011, 10:38:55 PM
How about the westin near the Eiffel tower on cash n points?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 21, 2011, 03:21:23 AM
How about the westin near the Eiffel tower on cash n points?

I don't believe there is a Westin next to the Eiffel Tower. I think you mean the Westin Paris Vendome. It is not far from the Louvre and is a pretty nice place (I stayed in a suite there recently).

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 21, 2011, 07:10:10 PM
Does anyone know its it is still posible to get Hyatt Gift Cards? If not is anyone looking to get rid of any and want to sell them?

Also, can u book tours at he Park Hyatt, bill them to your room and use the gift cards at .80 on the dollar? (I know Dan said he did it at the GH Kauii.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 21, 2011, 07:22:47 PM
Does anyone know its it is still posible to get Hyatt Gift Cards? If not is anyone looking to get rid of any and want to sell them?

Also, can u book tours at he Park Hyatt, bill them to your room and use the gift cards at .80 on the dollar? (I know Dan said he did it at the GH Kauii.
Yes and yes. (https://www.certificates.hyatt.com/products/CertsCheckCards.aspx)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 21, 2011, 08:08:45 PM
I was referring to the $100 for $80 you were able to get at Costco. Sorry for not making it clear.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bades on June 23, 2011, 12:47:05 PM
which SPG hotels OR hyatt hotels do you recommend in paris, and how many points is the park hyatt paris?? and is 3 days enough time their or is that a waste of time
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 23, 2011, 12:48:19 PM
which SPG hotels OR hyatt hotels do you recommend in paris, and how many points is the park hyatt paris?? and is 3 days enough time their or is that a waste of time

I stayed at the Westin Vendome and was very happy there (in a suite). Park Hyatt is supposed to be amazing, but didn't have the chance to stay there.

3 days can be plenty depending on what you want to see. What are you interested in?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bades on June 23, 2011, 12:53:32 PM
i am not sure what i am interested in yet, any ideas??? obviously eiffel tower, louve... and many other sights
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 23, 2011, 12:55:49 PM
i am not sure what i am interested in yet, any ideas??? obviously eiffel tower, louve... and many other sights

In my TR (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6165.0) I listed some things I did on my trip there in March. Granted we had 8 days but it might be good place to start. Sorry I didn't get a chance to go back and describe everything, but I think you'll get an idea. I suggest picking up a Rick Steve's Paris 2011 book. Great resource.

Also, if you like something a bit different, but gorgeous and great history take an English tour of the Opera Garnier.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bades on June 23, 2011, 12:59:54 PM
In my TR (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6165.0) I listed some things I did on my trip there in March. Granted we had 8 days but it might be good place to start. Sorry I didn't get a chance to go back and describe everything, but I think you'll get an idea. I suggest picking up a Rick Steve's Paris 2011 book. Great resource.

Also, if you like something a bit different, but gorgeous and great history take an English tour of the Opera Garnier.

thanks looks really cool, although it seems like 3 days is way too short.. what category is the westin?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 01:00:56 PM
3 days would be the minimum.  It takes at least 2 days to grow on you.  3 will probably leave you itching for a longer stay.
And the Park Hyatt is an excellent hotel.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 23, 2011, 09:55:27 PM
you have to cheshbon one day for versailles
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 23, 2011, 09:57:56 PM
you have to cheshbon one day for versailles

True, if you are planning on doing Versailles you need to assume it will take an entire day.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 10:04:14 PM
you have to cheshbon one day for versailles
I don't think Versailles is the "must-do" that people make it out to be.
It's fine if you have 5 days, but on a 3 day trip I don't think I would recommend it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 23, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
to each their own
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bades on June 24, 2011, 09:43:45 AM
why is Versailles such a great sight to see, excuse my ignorance please
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 24, 2011, 09:48:05 AM
why is Versailles such a great sight to see, excuse my ignorance please

Its an enormous palace built by Louis XIV when he moved the royal court there. It was also the place where Marie Antionette was able to seclude herself from the masses before they took her during the French Revolution and kill her.

All in all it is an amazingly opulent palace with gardens that you could spend an entire day in getting lost, going boating and just sitting outside for a picnic. The tour book we used said that if you go see any palace in Europe, this is the one to see.

But, if you aren't into that kind of stuff, then perhaps it's not for you. Get some background on it from Wikipedia or a tour book perhaps before you go to decide if you want to go see Versailles or not.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 24, 2011, 10:07:22 AM
while i dont necessarily agree with you tour book, i do however believe its a must see
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve L on June 24, 2011, 10:10:01 AM
im going also to paris in august and for  a couple who is not into art wouldnt it be better to go to versailles than lets to the louvre eventhough it is so famous.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 24, 2011, 10:12:10 AM
the louvre is a must. if youre not into art - get into it quickly!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve L on June 24, 2011, 10:28:47 AM
im only going to be there for 3 days so besides for versailles and lourve anything else u recommend. do u know about paris museum pass . is it worth it if only going to these 2 places
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2011, 11:08:27 AM
im only going to be there for 3 days so besides for versailles and lourve anything else u recommend. do u know about paris museum pass . is it worth it if only going to these 2 places
We used the pass at Versailles and the Louvre.  It didn't say us any money, but it did save a ton of time, so I'd definitely recommend it.
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An excerpt from http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517:
"-A Museum pass is €32 per person for 2 days. This gets you into dozens of attractions such as the Louvre, Versailles, the Arc de Triomphe, Musee d’Orsay, etc. The best part about the pass is that you get to skip the queue to purchase tickets which can be up to an hour long in each place! If you stay at the Hyatt buy $100 Hyatt GC’s at Costco for $80 and you can charge the museum pass to your room bill and save some money on the pass by paying with GC’s from Costco!

-Museums close their doors half an hour to an hour before they officially close, so don’t go somewhere close to closing time thinking you’ll get in to just see the Mona Lisa. Not that I would ever do that ;) Well if you do happen to do that be sure to shop around for a nice looking guard and you might just get lucky by trying the different entrances…(illustrated below)

-Versailles was very nice, I’m not sure if it’s the “must-do” that everyone makes it out to be though. The castle is ornate, expansive and impressive and the gardens are beautiful as a whole, although individual gardens were not always as nice when walking through. It does take nearly a whole day to get there by train, wait in massive queues to enter, and walk around. Perhaps I’m spoiled from seeing castles and gardens in Kyoto, Japan. I thought that the gardens in particular were much nicer out in the Far East. Also as we went on Sunday there was a “fountain show” that costs an extra €8 per person (actually €6 with our student ID’s) which is totally not worth it in my opinion, the fountain show at the Grove in LA is far more fascinating. If you go on a day when there is a fountain show you can’t enter the gardens unless you pay, otherwise the gardens are included for free.
I bought a 2 day pass from the PH Paris with Hyatt Costco certs."

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve L on June 24, 2011, 11:19:22 AM
thanks i forsure read that b4 i posted just wasnt sure if those were the only 2 places u went to with the pass.

Also, i read in other places that to get to versailles should really take that long like .5 to 1 hour.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 24, 2011, 11:37:40 AM
We used a Museum Pass and went to many different things with it. It also does save substantial time and many of the main sites around Paris.

while i dont necessarily agree with you tour book, i do however believe its a must see

I don't understand this?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2011, 11:40:46 AM
thanks i forsure read that b4 i posted just wasnt sure if those were the only 2 places u went to with the pass.
We arrived Thursday I think and left Monday afternoon.

They don't sell a 1 day pass, so we had to buy a 2 day pass, but we only used it Sunday at Versailles the whole day and at the Lourve for 20 minutes to get that iconic picture of and with the Mona Lisa.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2011, 05:46:09 PM
I don't understand this?
i dont think its the one palace to see in all of europe, but i believe its still a must see. sorry if that wasnt clear
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 26, 2011, 12:50:29 AM
i dont think its the one palace to see in all of europe, but i believe its still a must see. sorry if that wasnt clear

No worries. What palace would you place higher then Versailles (just out of curiosity)? I don't know what I would put on the top of the list.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: fdg9 on June 27, 2011, 09:33:36 AM
Do I need a converter if I am coming from US? Meaning, will every hotel in Paris have converters and adapters for my use if I bring my laptop and cell?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 27, 2011, 10:47:23 AM
Do I need a converter if I am coming from US? Meaning, will every hotel in Paris have converters and adapters for my use if I bring my laptop and cell?

Bring just in case. Our hotel only had a US type outlet in the bathroom for my shaver. Otherwise, I used converters.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2011, 10:53:37 AM
PH Paris has converters in the room and extras for the asking.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: fdg9 on June 27, 2011, 12:03:45 PM
unfortanately the PH is sold out so I am staying at the Le Meridien Etoile...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on June 27, 2011, 12:56:15 PM
unfortanately the PH is sold out so I am staying at the Le Meridien Etoile...

When are you going that its sold out? Are you diamond?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: fdg9 on June 27, 2011, 04:56:48 PM
In a week. I am diamond.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 13, 2011, 03:56:01 PM
We will be in Paris for 3 nights in the near future. There are tons of restaurants (I know only a few Glatt) and don't know where to begin.
I am taking recommendations for the 3 best restaurants in each catagory: 1. Meat (Glatt) 2. Dairy 3. Sushi :) 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 13, 2011, 04:58:58 PM
darjeeling
french sushi? cant you wait to get back to your local brooklyn pizzeria?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 13, 2011, 05:06:24 PM
Check out my TR I have a bunch of restaurants I reviewed: http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=6165.msg69637#msg69637.

We didn't go to sushi so I can't comment on that.

Darjeeling, Pitzman's (pizza) and Inte Caffe were a few of my favorites.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 13, 2011, 07:54:24 PM
@ Moish: There seem to many Sushi places so I figured one of them has to be decent.:)
Than again, once you are not in Japan what's the diff between France and the US?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on July 13, 2011, 07:57:55 PM
Than again, once you are not in Japan what's the diff between France and the US?

You're comparing french cuisine to fastfood?

(and even I'm saying that, as a francophobe)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 13, 2011, 08:21:45 PM
No, Moish made a statement that I might as well have sushi when I get back home since France is not known for its sushi. I responded that it isn't a US food either. There's not diff bet having gefilta fish in India or Pakistan!! :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on July 13, 2011, 08:40:22 PM
There's not diff bet having gefilta fish in India or Pakistan!! :)

Sure there is, in India they top it with curry.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: fdg9 on July 14, 2011, 03:27:50 PM
I am back from Paris.
Thanks to all who gave me info; it really helped. Here is my 2 cents…
I have lots to say, so I will just add brief points. I will happily embellish specific things if asked.
Air:
BA JFK-LHR-CDG, First Class
1.   1st class to LHR was great, both in terms of comfort and food
a.   Since meat dinner was served soon after takeoff of 6hr flight, we had to choose whether to have meat dinner of dairy breakfast served 5 hrs later. I took meat;  wife took diary; both were very good.
2.   Concord Lounge in LHR was great. They gave me private room to daven schachris. I also asked for meal in lounge because I had not eaten since dinner. Within 30 minutes attendant brought me 2 complete meat meals. We also got the 15 minute free massages.
3.   Club First LHR-CDG: served us a meal on 45 minute flight, but meal was frozen solid like a brick. No big deal because of meal in lounge…
BA CDG-LHR-JFK, First Class
1.   The amount of time we saved in lines by going first throughout trip was AMAZING!
2.   Once again, meal served on CDG-LHR flight was frozen solid like brick. Flight attendant said it was because of the dry ice the meals are kept in.
3.   CDG-JFK flight was fine. Meals were great, the best I had on my entire trip to Paris (no joke)
4.   Seat was not working so I drowned my sorrows in the all-you-can drink JW blue label…
a.   Contacted BA about seat problem. They offered me 2 $250 vouchers, but I will try to turn it into miles)
Hotel:
Le Meridien Etoile
1.   Not great. I know, I know about the PH, but it was sold out for points, even though I am diamond.
2.   Location not good at all. Hotel dated. Will not stay there again.
Sights:
1.   We hit most of the major museums and sites with Museum Pass (great value and line buster, except Versailles which still had a priority pass line of 1.5 hours). The only place we went to avoid is the Baccarat Museum which is a sham and should be avoided at all costs. Everything else was as expected and great.
2.   Except when we were out past 1AM, when the Metro closes, we used the Metro all the time (Metro Pass, which we used about 100 times) and it was easy and organized. Now I understand why Parisians are in such great shape…

Food:
1.   Pitzman: Ate there twice. Rustic Pizza. Very good. Avoid any side dishes or fries and stick with the pizza.
2.   L’as Du Falafel: Best I ever had. Period.
3.   Korcarz: Lemon Meringue was great! Nothing else made an impression.
4.   Darjeeling: Grub. Kavanna restaurant (Indian) in UK is the best restaurant I ever ate in, along with Tierra Sur in Oxnard, CA. Darjeeling was not good. We tried almost every appetizer and a few mains. We were not impressed at all. The food in Shalom Bombay and Dakshin II in NY is MUCH better. We also had the only 2 Indian style desserts and were very disappointed. Btw, I too noticed that the maître ‘d has an attitude problem…
5.   La Marina: Food sucked bad, but dessert was very good.
6.   Tibs 17: Good food, desserts no so good, except crème brulee which was good.
7.   We must have spent $125 on soda during trip, as everybody charges around 3 euro inside a restaurant per drink…
8.   Unfortunately, we could not find a French cuisine meat restaurant that met our kosher standards (YKMV)…
I guess that’s it in a nutshell…
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2011, 03:40:30 PM
Great review!!!

Shame about the PH, we enjoyed it a lot.

Your food reviews are very close to what we thought.
Pitzman-exactly what I thought.
Korcarz-exactly what I thought.
L’as Du Falafel and Darkeeling we missed.
Tierra Sur in Oxnard is awesome.
La Marina-Exactly, just go for the Farandole IMO.  Probably the best thing is to eat at Tib's 19 and then go next door for some Farandole.  And don't miss either of the great chocolate shops right next door either!


Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: fdg9 on July 14, 2011, 03:56:50 PM
After eating at La Marina, and enjoying the Farandole, we said the same about eating at Tibs and going for dessert to La Marina. In fact, we would have done so, except we had already eaten at Tibs 17 and wanted to try something different.
We did also in fact buy 20 pounds of chocolate at the two stores. I didn't post it because we have yet to try any. I should say as a warning, that we got the chocolate and praline shmear taken from our carry-on bags at LHR (went through CDG no problem). They put in the “Mailandfly" bin, so I should have them mailed to me for about $10…
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2011, 04:04:42 PM
You can't go wrong with any of the chocolate from the parve or milchig store there.
The parve store also had very good macarons.

Did you happen to go to Chez Hakol Bakery in the 19th?  It had good reviews but it was closed when we made it there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: fdg9 on July 15, 2011, 12:29:37 PM
We did go to CheZ Hakol. Awsome oversized macaroons, but nothing else we tried (about 5 or 6 items) were any good.

I also forgot to post my Scam Warnings:

1. Roses: We must have been approached 5+ times with dudes trying to "give" my wife roses, which of course, had she taken any would have cost me lots...

2. Gold Ring: As we approach guy (who is holding the hand of a small child) he pretends I "dropped" a gold ring on the floor and he wants to return it to me.

3. Petition: Approached by pregnant woman wanting us to sign petition while her friend would pickpocket me....

Read about these scams before I went so I was prepared...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on July 15, 2011, 12:54:29 PM
these all happened to u
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 15, 2011, 02:18:05 PM
@fdg9: Thanks for all the info. We'll be there soon and your report was very helpful!

It seems like most of the restaurants you were at was in Le Marais, Am I correct? Was looking forward to Darjeeling but from your report I think i might have lost my appetite!! :(  There doesn't seem to be many other good choices for meat unless you would go to Le Chateaubriand which is Bes Din but Glatt or Micky's Deli which doesn't seem to be anything special.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on July 15, 2011, 02:20:54 PM
What is the best way to get from Orly Airport to the Park Hyatt? Is there anything similar to the Roissy bus like there is from CDG. What are my other options?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve L on August 01, 2011, 12:38:15 PM
which place should i tell the park hyatt to get breakfast from? my friend jsut came back from there and said they place they got from was realy bad

thx
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2011, 12:40:05 PM
which place should i tell the park hyatt to get breakfast from? my friend jsut came back from there and said they place they got from was realy bad

thx
They can get it from anywhere.  Maybe Korcarz?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve L on August 01, 2011, 12:48:47 PM
They can get it from anywhere.  Maybe Korcarz?
thx bec brooklyncpa said they ordered from some other place and the food was stale
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2011, 12:52:26 PM
thx bec brooklyncpa said they ordered from some other place and the food was stale
I don't think you can go wrong with assorted pastries/bread from korcarz.  Specifiy which ones you want and they'll get them.
You can also ask for whatever you want.  We asked for cheese one day and got every kind of cheese imaginable (blue, green, purple ;)) along with cheesecake and danishes, etc.

See if you can convince them to get hot dishes as well.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: steve L on August 01, 2011, 12:58:27 PM
I don't think you can go wrong with assorted pastries/bread from korcarz.  Specifiy which ones you want and they'll get them.
You can also ask for whatever you want.  We asked for cheese one day and got every kind of cheese imaginable (blue, green, purple ;)) along with cheesecake and danishes, etc.

See if you can convince them to get hot dishes as well.
thx dan i owe you one:)


Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on August 01, 2011, 03:09:03 PM
I do not have time for a complete trip report but if anyone has any questions feel free to ask!! We were in Zurich, Lucerne, Nice (took tour of all the famous places in the French Riviera including Monte Carlo, Monaco, Cannes, Eze and Antibes) and Paris.

I would highly recommend taking a Segway tour of Paris. It is the most fun way to see Paris and it is run by Americans with perfect English!!! Here is the link:

http://citysegwaytours.com/paris

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 02, 2011, 10:44:57 AM
I do not have time for a complete trip report but if anyone has any questions feel free to ask!! We were in Zurich, Lucerne, Nice (took tour of all the famous places in the French Riviera including Monte Carlo, Monaco, Cannes, Eze and Antibes) and Paris.
Maybe make a short post about each place you went to in their respective master threads?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 16, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
We land in Paris this evening at about 8:40 PM (about 7 hours from now). Assuming we take the Roissy bus from CDG to the Park Hyatt, can anyone recommend a restaurant in that area will still be open after we get settled? Are restaurants open late? Anything walking distance?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2011, 11:21:25 AM
We land in Paris this evening at about 8:40 PM (about 7 hours from now). Assuming we take the Roissy bus from CDG to the Park Hyatt, can anyone recommend a restaurant in that area will still be open after we get settled? Are restaurants open late? Anything walking distance?

Did you order breakfast/champagne from the PH?

This ain't Chicago.  Restaurants are open late in Paris.  In face many don't even open until 7pm.

I don't know of any restaurants that are too close by.  We walked to Il Conte, (http://local.google.com/maps?saddr=5+Rue+de+la+Paix,+75002+Paris,+France+(Park+Hyatt+Paris+-+Vendome+Hotel)&daddr=36+Rue+Berri,+75008+Paris,+France+(Il+Conte)&hl=en&ll=48.871603,2.326784&spn=0.018404,0.052314&sll=48.870565,2.31857&sspn=0.009202,0.026157&geocode=FXat6QIdxo8jACGjEBewg72_tw%3BFffA6QId5TEjACGm1jgvjSiFniln2QLOxm_mRzHhSyhKHjcMNA&mra=luc&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&vpsrc=6&z=15) a 1.3 mi walk.  It's also doable by metro.

Darjeeling should be open, it's 2.2 miles away so you'll probably want to get their by metro as well.

Pitzman is 1.8 miles away in the Pletzel, also easily reached by metro.

The 2 metro stop near the PH are Opera and Tuileries, depending on which line you want to pick up.

More info on the restaurants here: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Finckmyster on August 16, 2011, 12:11:23 PM
This is a stupid question, but I went through the Form and could not find the answer,

Which District is the Pletzel(Jewish Quarter) in?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2011, 12:15:18 PM
This is a stupid question, but I went through the Form and could not find the answer,

Which District is the Pletzel(Jewish Quarter) in?

4
I wrote the districts by the restaurants here as well: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Finckmyster on August 16, 2011, 12:19:48 PM
4
I wrote the districts by the restaurants here as well: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517

Dan,

Thank you
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Finckmyster on August 16, 2011, 12:32:35 PM
Does anybody know a good kosher store in Paris that sells French/European Cheese's Chalv Israel at a very good price?

I am going there in 2 weeks and would love to bring some back to the States

Thank you
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
Does anybody know a good kosher store in Paris that sells French/European Cheese's Chalv Israel at a very good price?

I am going there in 2 weeks and would love to bring some back to the States

Thank you
You can ask the Park Hyatt chef.  They got us a high plate of different C.Y. french cheeses for breakfast one day.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 16, 2011, 12:37:57 PM
Did you order breakfast/champagne from the PH?

This ain't Chicago.  Restaurants are open late in Paris.  In face many don't even open until 7pm.

I don't know of any restaurants that are too close by.  We walked to Il Conte, (http://local.google.com/maps?saddr=5+Rue+de+la+Paix,+75002+Paris,+France+(Park+Hyatt+Paris+-+Vendome+Hotel)&daddr=36+Rue+Berri,+75008+Paris,+France+(Il+Conte)&hl=en&ll=48.871603,2.326784&spn=0.018404,0.052314&sll=48.870565,2.31857&sspn=0.009202,0.026157&geocode=FXat6QIdxo8jACGjEBewg72_tw%3BFffA6QId5TEjACGm1jgvjSiFniln2QLOxm_mRzHhSyhKHjcMNA&mra=luc&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&vpsrc=6&z=15) a 1.3 mi walk.  It's also doable by metro.

Darjeeling should be open, it's 2.2 miles away so you'll probably want to get their by metro as well.

Pitzman is 1.8 miles away in the Pletzel, also easily reached by metro.

The 2 metro stop near the PH are Opera and Tuileries, depending on which line you want to pick up.

More info on the restaurants here: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517

Thanks Dan!! We ordered kosher breakfast although we are not there yet for them to ask us what we want. I assume the champagne is standard?

Will check out these restaurants...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Finckmyster on August 16, 2011, 02:58:12 PM
You can ask the Park Hyatt chef.  They got us a high plate of different C.Y. french cheeses for breakfast one day.

Dan,

I am not staying there, I am staying at Holiday Inn Gare De L Est,

But thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
Dan,

I am not staying there, I am staying at Holiday Inn Gare De L Est,

But thanks
Doesn't mean you can't call (or stop in) and ask the concierge or chef.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Finckmyster on August 16, 2011, 03:20:08 PM
Doesn't mean you can't call (or stop in) and ask the concierge or chef.
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That is true, Good idea, will try to see if they can direct me in the right direction

Thanks again
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 16, 2011, 05:40:00 PM
We are at PH paris...all the restaurants said they were closing the kitchen at 11 pm.

Apparently Le Shine will deliver for free as long as you get your order in by 11pm. Thank the lord for Google translate...we were actually able to understand what we were ordering/eating. Food was pretty good...

We have our kosher breakfast on order for tomorrow AM. No mention of any Champagne and the bottle of wine in the room doesn't appear to be kosher. The room is pretty nice although i hope this is not the best part of our stay in Paris ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2011, 05:45:43 PM
We are at PH paris...all the restaurants said they were closing the kitchen at 11 pm.

Apparently Le Shine will deliver for free as long as you get your order in by 11pm. Thank the lord for Google translate...we were actually able to understand what we were ordering/eating. Food was pretty good...

We have our kosher breakfast on order for tomorrow AM. No mention of any Champagne and the bottle of wine in the room doesn't appear to be kosher. The room is pretty nice although i hope this is not the best part of our stay in Paris ;)
Lol...
You should have asked for kosher wine.  If you are celebrating a bday or anniversary, etc then you can ask about kosher champagne.
You should definitely talk to the chef about breakfast options or else you'll probably get garbage.
Don't miss the spa area in the PH with a hot tub and 2 saunas where we never found another soul, a nice little secret.

Le Shine is pretty good, nice to know they have free delivery!  What did you get?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 16, 2011, 06:05:13 PM
Lol...
You should have asked for kosher wine.  If you are celebrating a bday or anniversary, etc then you can ask about kosher champagne.
You should definitely talk to the chef about breakfast options or else you'll probably get garbage.
Don't miss the spa area in the PH with a hot tub and 2 saunas where we never found another soul, a nice little secret.

We actually just spoke to room service about breakfast...they said for tomorrow its too late to make requests. They asked what i normally have for breakfast and i said eggs (didnt know what else to say as i dont usually eat breakfast. ;))
They said they will see what they can do about getting us eggs for the next day...I guess i can try speaking to the chef...im not sure what to ask for. I mean, can i ask for some pizza? That would make a nice breakfast (errr lunch).

I should just call down and ask if they have kosher champagne for our honeymoon instead of the wine in the room? Is a bottle of wine always complimentary?

Le Shine is pretty good, nice to know they have free delivery!  What did you get?
We got the egg rolls, they were ok...
We got beef lomein, beef in some kind of basil sauce (actually pretty good...a tad spicy), white rice, some kind called samoussa, and a chocolate cake for desert
Overall, it was decent food delivered at 11 PM for 45 euro. Perhaps we'll try the sushi tomorrow...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 17, 2011, 02:56:11 AM
We got turned down for the eggs because they would have no way to keep it hot.

The breakfast this AM was kind of measly: 2 rolls and 3-4 small pastries. Will have to make some kind of request for tomorrow (we are both not big on cheese...) The interesting part was that they put the box from the bakery into the room service warmer. It didn't feel like it got that hot and we took it our right away, but id guess it could be problematic if left in there too long...(im no rabbinic authority ;D)

Im not sure if this was discussed, but the PH has a 4 page list of DVD's that can be rented for free (not sure if only free for diamond) They give you the list and you call down with your selections...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2011, 03:09:41 AM
We got turned down for the eggs because they would have no way to keep it hot.

The breakfast this AM was kind of measly: 2 rolls and 3-4 small pastries. Will have to make some kind of request for tomorrow (we are both not big on cheese...) The interesting part was that they put the box from the bakery into the room service warmer. It didn't feel like it got that hot and we took it our right away, but id guess it could be problematic if left in there too long...(im no rabbinic authority ;D)

Im not sure if this was discussed, but the PH has a 4 page list of DVD's that can be rented for free (not sure if only free for diamond) They give you the list and you call down with your selections...
Call them and tell them you were really disappointing with the quantity of food.
Ask for juices, bread, jams, yogurt. more pastries, etc.
See if they'll buy it from Korcarz and be sure to ask for some mini lemon meringue pies.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 17, 2011, 03:24:06 AM
Call them and tell them you were really disappointing with the quantity of food.
Ask for juices, bread, jams, yogurt. more pastries, etc.
See if they'll buy it from Korcarz and be sure to ask for some mini lemon meringue pies.
Thanks...i meant 2 rolls and 3 pastries "each". So total 4 rolls and 6 pastries.
Im going to ask them for bagels with lox and cream cheese for tomorrow as well as some other smoked fish(s). We'll see what that turns up...Ill also ask them to get the bread and pastries from korcarz

Strange- i called down and spoke to the room service manager. He said they can only get the bread and pastries from that bakery they work with. He said no to lox or cheese...he said anything else would cost us extra...Didnt even try to get some champagne...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on August 17, 2011, 10:59:49 AM
They don't seem to give personalized breakfast anymore like they did for Dan. There have a standard breakfast package that includes a few small pastries and a roll with a small packet of butter and Jam. If you want a fancy breakfast they make you pay.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 17, 2011, 12:31:15 PM
They don't seem to give personalized breakfast anymore like they did for Dan. There have a standard breakfast package that includes a few small pastries and a roll with a small packet of butter and Jam. If you want a fancy breakfast they make you pay.
Yep thats the gist i am getting. We shall see what we get tomorrow AM
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
They don't seem to give personalized breakfast anymore like they did for Dan. There have a standard breakfast package that includes a few small pastries and a roll with a small packet of butter and Jam. If you want a fancy breakfast they make you pay.
That's too bad.  I saw on my bill that they spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on my food.  'Twas too good to last!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 17, 2011, 05:03:50 PM
That's too bad.  I saw on my bill that they spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on my food.  'Twas too good to last!

Yep...i spoke to someone from guest relations tonight. He said that last year they had alot of requests and it was all mayhem (i guess the amount they were spending...). He said they had a meeting and decided on what they would be providing from now on...they offered to arrange the foods we want at an additional cost.

I asked them about a bottle of kosher wine or champagne and they said they have a bottle at the restaurant but its too expensive to be given instead of the non-kosher bottle in the room.
They did offer us the bottle of perfume spray that was designed specifically for them and is used throughout the hotel.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2011, 05:34:03 PM
Yep...i spoke to someone from guest relations tonight. He said that last year they had alot of requests and it was all mayhem (i guess the amount they were spending...). He said they had a meeting and decided on what they would be providing from now on...they offered to arrange the foods we want at an additional cost.

I asked them about a bottle of kosher wine or champagne and they said they have a bottle at the restaurant but its too expensive to be given instead of the non-kosher bottle in the room.
They did offer us the bottle of perfume spray that was designed specifically for them and is used throughout the hotel.

Wow, 2 thumbs down...
I guess I won't be getting any more expensive kosher champagnes when I come back to Paris. :(

Talk to the GM.  Tell him what you expect from a Park Hyatt hotel.  They allow diamonds to spend an awful lot in their restaurant on breakfast.  Doesn't seem fair to give a few small pastries and nothing more substantial.
Park Hyatt Sydney/Melbourne went all out in getting us free hot kosher breakfasts and kosher wines...thumbs down to PH Paris for getting cheap.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 18, 2011, 04:01:09 AM
i saw a few mention the spa here at the PH. Are these services being had for free somehow? The prices look kind of high (although i can honestly say ive never been to a spa in my life so dont know what prices should be...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 18, 2011, 04:30:04 AM
Has anyone ever eaten here: http://www.lemilk.fr/ ?(turn down your volume before clicking on the link ;))
it looks pretty good...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 18, 2011, 12:28:16 PM
Has anyone ever eaten here: http://www.lemilk.fr/ ?(turn down your volume before clicking on the link ;))
it looks pretty good...
Nope, but while you're in the 19th don't miss the 2 chocolate shops!

Have you been to Pitzman or Darjeeling yet?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 18, 2011, 01:18:31 PM
Nope, but while you're in the 19th don't miss the 2 chocolate shops!

Have you been to Pitzman or Darjeeling yet?
We were there today- we saw only 1 chocolate shop...Ardeleys. We didnt see the other one. Is it worth going back?

We went to Darjeeling-was not impressed. The appetizers were much better than the entrees. Pitzman was delicious!
We went to Tibs today for lunch- the food was pretty good there as well.

Dan, when you went to the spa- was that comped? Or did you pay these prices?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 18, 2011, 01:22:37 PM
Personally found Tibs a little pricey.
Couple doors down, La Marina is much better value.

And a couple doors further down is Damyel. Amazing pareve chocolate!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 18, 2011, 01:27:04 PM
Personally found Tibs a little pricey.
Couple doors down, La Marina is much better value.
Pricey? everything here is pricey! I mean a small box of chocolate set us back $45. Every meal ends up being 50 euro ($75).
Im curious about the spa here...it seems id be paying quite a bit of money if we go there. Is that what people are doing?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 18, 2011, 01:31:16 PM
Personally found Tibs a little pricey.
Couple doors down, La Marina is much better value.

And a couple doors further down is Damyel. Amazing pareve chocolate!
Just 2 doors down from Ardely's, Damyel's has the best parve chocolate I've ever had and amazing macarons.
La Marina's farandole dessert is legendary, it's next door to Tibs in the 19th.

We were there today- we saw only 1 chocolate shop...Ardeleys. We didnt see the other one. Is it worth going back?

We went to Darjeeling-was not impressed. The appetizers were much better than the entrees. Pitzman was delicious!
We went to Tibs today for lunch- the food was pretty good there as well.

Dan, when you went to the spa- was that comped? Or did you pay these prices?
Every American that I talk to loved Pitzman.  Funny that the Europeans don't seem to care for it.
I guess I shouldn't feel too bad for missing Darjeeling with the mixed reviews DF'ers have given the place.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 18, 2011, 01:31:40 PM
Pricey? everything here is pricey! I mean a small box of chocolate set us back $45. Every meal ends up being 50 euro ($75).
Im curious about the spa here...it seems id be paying quite a bit of money if we go there. Is that what people are doing?
Right.
It's been some time but for example if I remember correctly a pizza in Tibs was around €12 while La Marina was €7...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 18, 2011, 01:53:19 PM
Right.
It's been some time but for example if I remember correctly a pizza in Tibs was around €12 while La Marina was €7...
Tibs was 11.50...yes we just paid $17.25 for a small pizza!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on August 18, 2011, 05:12:09 PM
David: If you just use the Hot Tubs and sauna at the Spa it won't cost  as a Diamond but if you want a massage, facial......it will cost a fortune!!

We got Kosher Champagne a few weeks ago upon our arrival. We told them it was our anniversary so that might have helped. The price in the store for the bottle was about 50 Euro so its not like getting a bottle of Rashi champagne!!

Pitzman was amazing. Its a good thing you went to Tibs for lunch because we went for dinner and they only had Pizza on their menu. We left and went to La Marina were not at all impressed. 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on August 18, 2011, 05:17:16 PM
I also got the 45 Euro box of chocolate from Ardeleys that I found to be a rip off. The chocolate stores here such as Le Chocolate are just as good and cost lot less so no need to schlep.   Sorry Dan, but this is just my opinion! :)

If you really want amazing chocolate go to Chocolate Charm in Toronto!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 18, 2011, 05:22:51 PM
Sorry Dan, but this is just my opinion! :)
Al taam v'reyach...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 18, 2011, 06:49:22 PM
David: If you just use the Hot Tubs and sauna at the Spa it won't cost  as a Diamond but if you want a massage, facial......it will cost a fortune!!

We got Kosher Champagne a few weeks ago upon our arrival. We told them it was our anniversary so that might have helped. The price in the store for the bottle was about 50 Euro so its not like getting a bottle of Rashi champagne!!

Pitzman was amazing. Its a good thing you went to Tibs for lunch because we went for dinner and they only had Pizza on their menu. We left and went to La Marina were not at all impressed. 

We asked about kosher champagne and they said they would ahve to charge us. My thoughts is they decided to cut back on what they can offer because too many people were asking for them.

Overall, we were not very impressed with the hotel. I mean its nice but not worth the amount they charge and i cant say it was the nicest hotel ive stayed in. Ill try and get a picture tomorrow AM of the sorry excuse for a breakfast.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on August 19, 2011, 08:07:53 AM
We asked about kosher champagne and they said they would ahve to charge us. My thoughts is they decided to cut back on what they can offer because too many people were asking for them.


If you dont really care for it, dont ask. Just to take a free bottle home, its not worth it. Leave it for some people, that really care and deserve it (have anniversary)  If every other jew "machs them meshige" the party will be over.     Yes, I was there and didnt ask them for kosher champagne
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 19, 2011, 01:07:54 PM
If every other jew "machs them meshige" the party will be over.
Sounds to me like that ship has sailed.

Also worth noting that apparently the F&B director, whi was the most amazing person I've ever dealt with in a hotel, Thibault de Vries, left the PH Paris for HR JNB earlier this year.  That could be part of the reason people are having a much harder time than I was getting kosher food than I did.

He literally went out of his way to get anything he could for us, down to the type of champagne.

I was doing some DD concierge help for someone and this was the response from PH Paris:

"First of all, please allow me to thank you for your interest towards Park Hyatt Paris-Vendôme, thank you for choosing our hotel for your honeymoon!

Further to your email to Mr De Vries, who has a new position as Director of Food and Beverage at the Hyatt Regency Johannesburg, I am pleased to arrange any special requirement for your stay.

Regarding the kosher food, for your information, we can propose the following for your breakfast with no extra charge:
Tea or coffee
Milk carton pack
Juice bottle
Kosher pastries and bread

Should you wish anything else (eggs, cheese, cakes...) kindly advice us at your earliest convenience and we will order it with additional cost. Kindly note that we do not have a kosher kitchen, we can only buy kosher products from outside suppliers.

We have the pleasure to offer a kosher bottle of champage as welcome amenities."
Title: Re: Favorite Vacation Pics (only taken yourself)
Post by: misterstuf on August 19, 2011, 01:15:47 PM
While not my favorite, the fact that it was a free room at the Park Hyatt Paris makes this a picture that I love.

And yes, I know I owe you a trip report, Dan. I have been bad about getting it posted, and I am sorry.
Title: Re: Re: Favorite Vacation Pics (only taken yourself)
Post by: Dan on August 19, 2011, 01:17:42 PM
While not my favorite, the fact that it was a free room at the Park Hyatt Paris makes this a picture that I love.

And yes, I know I owe you a trip report, Dan. I have been bad about getting it posted, and I am sorry.
Did you have a balcony?
OT, but what were your thoughts on the hotel?  Apparently I'm in the minority here as most people don't seem to care for it.
Title: Re: Re: Favorite Vacation Pics (only taken yourself)
Post by: BrooklynCPA on August 19, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
I totally agree with you Dan. We thought it was an amazing hotel and the service is hard to beat. We also got upgraded from a Junior suite to a full beautiful suite with a balcony overlooking the front of the hotel. We even had a heated toilet seat!!! :)
Title: Re: Re: Favorite Vacation Pics (only taken yourself)
Post by: Dan on August 19, 2011, 01:42:28 PM
I totally agree with you Dan. We thought it was an amazing hotel and the service is hard to beat. We also got upgraded from a Junior suite to a full beautiful suite with a balcony overlooking the front of the hotel. We even had a heated toilet seat!!! :)
Nice!
Glad to hear I'm not the only one!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 03, 2011, 11:53:19 PM
I land at cdg at five pm. I am staying at the Sheraton in the airport and depart the next morning for ny. What should I do in these few hours. I am not opposed to dashing around!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on October 04, 2011, 10:00:01 PM
I land at cdg at five pm. I am staying at the Sheraton in the airport and depart the next morning for ny. What should I do in these few hours. I am not opposed to dashing around!

I think the segway tour posted earlier in the thread does have a night tour...not sure what time it starts. We loved that tour...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 06, 2011, 12:00:05 AM
sounds cool! Any other must do's for my one night in paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 06, 2011, 01:57:51 AM
sounds cool! Any other must do's for my one night in paris?
See the Eifel tower (I thought the view from the top of the arc de triumph was great
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 06, 2011, 02:03:52 AM
See the Eifel tower (I thought the view from the top of the arc de triumph was great
how do you get from the eiffel tower to the arc de triumph? Is it worth going to the top of the eiffel tower?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: airblade on October 06, 2011, 02:16:03 AM
WALK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 06, 2011, 02:19:19 AM
WALK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes sir!! should i walk extra in order to walk down Champs Elysees? also anyone have any experience with the Seine river boat rides?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on October 10, 2011, 02:06:36 PM
yes sir!! should i walk extra in order to walk down Champs Elysees? also anyone have any experience with the Seine river boat rides?

We did the Batauex Moches (not sure if that's the right spelling). It was fine. I think they are all the same unless you do the dinner ones.
Title: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: AJK on October 17, 2011, 01:57:17 AM
Looking for some help from fellow DDF’ers on planning my upcoming trip to Paris over Thanksgiving weekend thanks to the KLM glitch (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/16644).

I have just finished reading the Paris trip report thread (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1573.0), and Dan's personal TR (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517) and am looking for some advice on my particular trip.

Here are the relevant details:

Flight: I will be flying KLM (NYC-AMS-CDG and back), and I will be arriving at 3:00pm on Thursday afternoon and leaving Monday at 10:00am.

Hotel: Dan raves about the Park Hyatt Paris, and I have enough points to stay there for free, but I am no longer Diamond, just Platinum (through the Hyatt card). Few questions: 1) Anyway for me to get the Diamond benefits anyway (having someone else book the hotel for me)? 2) As far as matching, here is my story: I got Hilton Gold matched to Hyatt Diamond. Before that expired, I matched back to Hilton to Gold till 2013. Is there anyway for me to *again* match back to Hyatt Diamond, or is it a one-per kind of thing? 3) If I do not end up staying at the PHP (lack of Diamond benefits and/or ostentatious price/number of mixed reviews/downgraded breakfast), can someone recommend another hotel at which they've had a good experience?

Shabbas: Totally up in the air - may stay with family friends.

Food + Activities: I have to plan the following: Thursday evening's activity and food, Friday's activity and food (Shabbas is at 4:43pm), Saturday night's activity and food, Sunday's activities and foods.

I think for one of the nights (open to your suggestions), I am going to do (as has been recommended a number of times) the Tib's (for main) and La Marina (for dessert-Farandole anyone?) combo. For another night/lunch (open to your suggestions) I'll hit Pitzman. Need at least a couple other ideas for food. Perhaps I can go to Il Conte for one of the remaining two nights. Another posted suggested L’as Du Falafel as being the best felafel ever tasted.

Thus, tentatively, let's say:

Thursday Evening: Check in to hotel (suggestions?); Food - Tib's + La Marina. Activity - Perhaps nighttime view of the Eiffel Tower. (if not, suggestions?)
Friday: Breakfast - suggestions? Lunch - Pitzman. Activity - Segway tour of Paris, perhaps? (Open to suggestions)?
Shabbas: Not sure yet.
Saturday Night: Food - looking for something light-ish (suggestions?); Activity - suggestions?
Sunday: Activity - Versailles anyone? If not, any other suggestions? Lunch - L’as Du Falafel perhaps? Dinner - Il Conte/Darjeeling?
Monday: Fly home!

In exchange for all of your help, I will post a Trip Report when I get back, complete with high-res photos. Thanks!
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: AJK on October 18, 2011, 05:31:16 PM
OK, if no one wants to comment on food or activities, can you comment/suggest on this:


Hotel: Dan raves about the Park Hyatt Paris, and I have enough points to stay there for free, but I am no longer Diamond, just Platinum (through the Hyatt card). Few questions: 1) Anyway for me to get the Diamond benefits anyway (having someone else book the hotel for me)? 2) As far as matching, here is my story: I got Hilton Gold matched to Hyatt Diamond. Before that expired, I matched back to Hilton to Gold till 2013. Is there anyway for me to *again* match back to Hyatt Diamond, or is it a one-per kind of thing? 3) If I do not end up staying at the PHP (lack of Diamond benefits and/or ostentatious price/number of mixed reviews/downgraded breakfast), can someone recommend another hotel at which they've had a good experience?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2011, 12:52:24 PM
OK, fine, how about just this one:

Anyone got hotel recommendations in Paris beyond PHP?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 23, 2011, 01:04:05 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1573.0

did you check this out already?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 23, 2011, 01:08:19 PM
OK, fine, how about just this one:

Anyone got hotel recommendations in Paris beyond PHP?
there's a nice new cheap hotel in la defense... Jolli hotel Lotti is nice, center of Paris. That's all I know
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2011, 01:14:14 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1573.0

did you check this out already?

Yea, read the whole thread, thanks. Was hoping someone who has had a recent experience could recommend something.

there's a nice new cheap hotel in la defense... Jolli hotel Lotti is nice, center of Paris. That's all I know

Thanks, I'll check it out!
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: Ergel on October 23, 2011, 04:58:47 PM

Hotel: Dan raves about the Park Hyatt Paris, and I have enough points to stay there for free, but I am no longer Diamond, just Platinum (through the Hyatt card). Few questions: 1) Anyway for me to get the Diamond benefits anyway (having someone else book the hotel for me)? 2) As far as matching, here is my story: I got Hilton Gold matched to Hyatt Diamond. Before that expired, I matched back to Hilton to Gold till 2013. Is there anyway for me to *again* match back to Hyatt Diamond, or is it a one-per kind of thing? 3) If I do not end up staying at the PHP (lack of Diamond benefits and/or ostentatious price/number of mixed reviews/downgraded breakfast), can someone recommend another hotel at which they've had a good experience?

I thought the Park Hyatt was very nice. Breakfast was a nice added touch but it is a really nice hotel in a good location. Obviously wouldn't lay out the cash for it, but I would use points.

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Food + Activities: I have to plan the following: Thursday evening's activity and food, Friday's activity and food (Shabbas is at 4:43pm), Saturday night's activity and food, Sunday's activities and foods.

I think for one of the nights (open to your suggestions), I am going to do (as has been recommended a number of times) the Tib's (for main) and La Marina (for dessert-Farandole anyone?) combo. For another night/lunch (open to your suggestions) I'll hit Pitzman. Need at least a couple other ideas for food. Perhaps I can go to Il Conte for one of the remaining two nights. Another posted suggested L’as Du Falafel as being the best felafel ever tasted.

I thought Darjeeling was excellent and would reccommend checking it out.

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Thursday Evening: Check in to hotel (suggestions?); Food - Tib's + La Marina. Activity - Perhaps nighttime view of the Eiffel Tower. (if not, suggestions?)

Night time view of Eifel Tower was very nice. Or you could climb the Arc De Triumph and get a nice view as well

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Friday: Breakfast - suggestions? Lunch - Pitzman. Activity - Segway tour of Paris, perhaps? (Open to suggestions)?

Pitzman's was fine, nothing to rave about IMHO. Segway tour was pretty cool but it was pretty expensive. PM for a way to save some money on it.


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Sunday: Activity - Versailles anyone? If not, any other suggestions? Lunch - L’as Du Falafel perhaps? Dinner - Il Conte/Darjeeling?
Monday: Fly home!

I thought Versailles is a must see (not so much for the gardens but for the oppulence of the palace). I don't know if you will have crowds, in the summer it was unbearable. I would recommend getting there at around 2 PM, going to the gardens first and renting backs and then coming back to the palace at around 4 PM when the lines are shorter and there are less people inside. Can do another activity in the morning
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2011, 05:16:02 PM
Thanks for your detailed post.

I thought the Park Hyatt was very nice. Breakfast was a nice added touch but it is a really nice hotel in a good location. Obviously wouldn't lay out the cash for it, but I would use points.

When did you go? Seems that PHP has cut back significantly on the their free breakfast amenity (assuming I'd even be able to attain Diamond status before I go). Would it have been worth $900/22k without the breakfast?

Night time view of Eifel Tower was very nice. Or you could climb the Arc De Triumph and get a nice view as well

Havent heard of the Arc De Triumph, but will look into it. Thanks.

Segway tour was pretty cool but it was pretty expensive. PM for a way to save some money on it.

Assuming you get the % off, you think its worth it?

I thought Versailles is a must see (not so much for the gardens but for the oppulence of the palace). I don't know if you will have crowds, in the summer it was unbearable. I would recommend getting there at around 2 PM, going to the gardens first and renting backs and then coming back to the palace at around 4 PM when the lines are shorter and there are less people inside. Can do another activity in the morning

Great. Any rec for a morning-activity?
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: Ergel on October 23, 2011, 05:23:09 PM
Thanks for your detailed post.

My pleasure. Just trying to pay it forward

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When did you go? Seems that PHP has cut back significantly on the their free breakfast amenity (assuming I'd even be able to attain Diamond status before I go). Would it have been worth $900/22k without the breakfast?

I got a downgraded breakfast. Wasn't that great but it was nice-bread and some danishes.
Definitely not worth $900, but 22k points (let's valuate it at $400) is a little more reasonable. Now that I am DDFer I like to travel in style without spending a lot of cash. Hard to that without using points. Paying for any nice hotel would be at least $300 out of pocket. I'd rather spend the points. Unless you would rather stay in a average hotel for $150-$200, then I would do that.

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Havent heard of the Arc De Triumph, but will look into it. Thanks.

Napoleon (started) builiding it after his major triumph. Pretty famous.

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Assuming you get the % off, you think its worth it?

Depends on your budget, but yes it was very informative and you got a good quick look at the city. Ask someone who has done it in the fall, I could imagine it being pretty chilly on a Segway for an extended period of time.

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Great. Any rec for a morning-activity?

What kinds of activities do you like
Title: Re: Thanksgiving in Paris
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2011, 05:28:52 PM
I got a downgraded breakfast. Wasn't that great but it was nice-bread and some danishes.

Were you Diamond?

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Unless you would rather stay in a average hotel for $150-$200, then I would do that.

Know of any decent ones? I'm finding it hard to pull the 22k trigger for the PHP as I may want to use my UR points for something else (still undecided though).

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Depends on your budget, but yes it was very informative and you got a good quick look at the city. Ask someone who has done it in the fall, I could imagine it being pretty chilly on a Segway for an extended period of time.

What kinds of activities do you like

I'll probably do it in the end. Don't have so much time in Paris and would like to get the "quick good look" at the city. As far as activities go, I'm pretty much a get-up-and-do-anything type of guy...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 24, 2011, 07:42:13 AM
Were you Diamond?

Yes

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Know of any decent ones? I'm finding it hard to pull the 22k trigger for the PHP as I may want to use my UR points for something else (still undecided though).

No clue.

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I'll probably do it in the end. Don't have so much time in Paris and would like to get the "quick good look" at the city. As far as activities go, I'm pretty much a get-up-and-do-anything type of guy...

If you like famous art, there is obviously the Louvre and the musee d'orsay. A little off the beaten path is Musee d'loreange- a museum built to showcase Monet's lilies. A cute little museum which you can see the whole thing in a half hour. Modern art at the Centre Pompidou. A very interesting exhibit on Eichman in the Holocaust museum and the permanent Holocaust exhibit. We went to the sewer museum which was also interesting.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on October 27, 2011, 07:58:48 PM
Here were some of my highlights in terms of activities (was there in March 2011): Musee D'orsay, Tour of the Opera building, L'orangerie, the Louvre (guided tour to hit the impt. stuff), Eiffel Tower

Food: Darjeeling, Falafel, Pitzman, Le Chateubriand

I wrote up a TR on that trip. See if you can find it.

Also, for Shabbos I would check out the Great Synagogue La Victoire (sp?) because it is maginificent and only open on Shabbos morning davening.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 27, 2011, 08:55:34 PM
@AJK

When you decide on what you have planned as activities ... Please share
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on October 28, 2011, 12:03:43 AM
Here were some of my highlights in terms of activities (was there in March 2011): Musee D'orsay, Tour of the Opera building, L'orangerie, the Louvre (guided tour to hit the impt. stuff), Eiffel Tower

Food: Darjeeling, Falafel, Pitzman, Le Chateubriand

I wrote up a TR on that trip. See if you can find it.

Also, for Shabbos I would check out the Great Synagogue La Victoire (sp?) because it is maginificent and only open on Shabbos morning davening.

I guess you're an impressionist art guy? Am I up a creek if I'm not that cultured (read: not into art)?

RE: Food -- heard of all except Le Chateubriand... good meat?

If I stay close enough, I'll def stop by the GS... thanks!

Also, in your TR you say you used audio tours - can you (or anyone else) recommend a good audio tour set for paris?

@AJK

When you decide on what you have planned as activities ... Please share

Will do, b'n.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2011, 12:07:00 AM
I guess you're an impressionist art guy? Am I up a creek if I'm not that cultured (read: not into art)?

RE: Food -- heard of all except Le Chateubriand... good meat?

If I stay close enough, I'll def stop by the GS... thanks!

Also, in your TR you say you used audio tours - can you (or anyone else) recommend a good audio tour set for paris?

Will do, b'n.
Chateubriand is not mehadrin.

We're not into art and still had a blast in Paris.  Loved the sites, the food, the hotel, the chabad house we ate at for shabbos, etc.  The only unpleasantness was the smell of the city itself and the anti-semitism.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on October 28, 2011, 12:46:03 AM
I guess you're an impressionist art guy? Am I up a creek if I'm not that cultured (read: not into art)?

RE: Food -- heard of all except Le Chateubriand... good meat?

If I stay close enough, I'll def stop by the GS... thanks!

Also, in your TR you say you used audio tours - can you (or anyone else) recommend a good audio tour set for paris?

Will do, b'n.

I do like impressionist art. As does my wife. We used Rick Steves podcasts for a few of the museums and Versailles. Also we used the Rick Steve's Paris book to do some self guided stuff.

Chaeteubriand isn't mehadrin but we spoke with friends in Paris who we trust who told us the meat is. That is not to say you shouldn't do your own homework and decide what you're comfortable with.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on October 30, 2011, 08:01:02 PM
Chateubriand is not mehadrin.

Good to know, thanks.

We used Rick Steves podcasts for a few of the museums and Versailles. Also we used the Rick Steve's Paris book to do some self guided stuff.

Perfect, thanks for the recco.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 15, 2011, 10:43:48 AM
Tried to book PHP for 24-28th. No award space available (maybe cuz of Thanksgiving ???).

So outta luck there.

There is only one night (27th) available at the Hyatt Regency Madeleine (http://paris.madeleine.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?null).

Any advice/suggestions?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2011, 10:50:29 AM
Tried to book PHP for 24-28th. No award space available (maybe cuz of Thanksgiving ???).

So outta luck there.

There is only one night (27th) available at the Hyatt Regency Madeleine (http://paris.madeleine.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?null).

Any advice/suggestions?
You waited far too long.  Need to book most Paris hotels at least a month in advance or else hope for a last-minute cancellation.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on November 15, 2011, 10:57:16 AM
You waited far too long.  Need to book most Paris hotels at least a month in advance or else hope for a last-minute cancellation.
just saying i went to book ph vendome for june and the first two nights they didnt have any regular room availability had to use my two nights in suites. and that was 8 months in advance
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2011, 11:04:58 AM
just saying i went to book ph vendome for june and the first two nights they didnt have any regular room availability had to use my two nights in suites. and that was 8 months in advance
For the peak summer season people plan trips a year in advance.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 15, 2011, 11:25:59 AM
You waited far too long.  Need to book most Paris hotels at least a month in advance or else hope for a last-minute cancellation.

I checked about 10 days ago, but didn't follow up on DDF...

Should I just call Hyatt/PHP every day between now and then and hope for a cancellation?

Can you recommend alternate hotels?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 15, 2011, 06:52:00 PM
...or can anyone else recommend other hotels? (Doesn't have to be Dan :P)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: E on November 16, 2011, 02:04:14 PM
I stayed in both the PH and the Intercontinental around the corner I honestly like the intercontinental more.... pm me if you want help booking ect..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2011, 02:12:46 PM
Thanks. Will do.

Anybody stayed at Hyatt Regency Madeleine (http://paris.madeleine.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?null)?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2011, 02:16:24 PM
Also, anyone know what points transfer to IC hotels?

EDIT: Got it, at least UR does.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2011, 02:26:02 PM
Thanks. Will do.

Anybody stayed at Hyatt Regency Madeleine (http://paris.madeleine.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?null)?

It's supposed to be nice as well, but I've never been there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 16, 2011, 02:37:04 PM
Thanks for the response. If I stay there, I'll make sure to report back!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2011, 11:04:22 PM
For those of you who have taken the Roissy Bus from CDG-->Opera, how did you buy your tix?

If used the machine, is it in English and/or straightforward?

If bought from driver, did you have to pay in cash?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2011, 11:13:51 PM
There's a station in front of the bus stop with someone selling tickets.  Cash or CC.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
There's a station in front of the bus stop with someone selling tickets.  Cash or CC.

Great. Preferred not to have to exchange for cash and didn't wanna get stuck fiddling around with a machine that only used Paris-talk.

(bee tee dubs, got into the PHP for one night. Looking forward.)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2011, 11:19:20 PM
Great. Preferred not to have to exchange for cash and didn't wanna get stuck fiddling around with a machine that only used Paris-talk.

(bee tee dubs, got into the PHP for one night. Looking forward.)
With diamond status?

Also most machines in Europe are chip&pin and wont work with US cards.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2011, 11:22:35 PM
With diamond status?

Nah, called back a couple days later and an award night had opened up.

But, at least officially, I won't get free access to the sauna and hot tub without Diamond, right? Gonna have to try and finagle that one.

Also most machines in Europe are chip&pin and wont work with US cards.

Uh oh. I had plans to simply use my CSP at all the restaurants, etc. Is that going to be a prob now?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2011, 11:25:16 PM
Nah, called back a couple days later and an award night had opened up.

But, at least officially, I won't get free access to the sauna and hot tub without Diamond, right? Gonna have to try and finagle that one.

Uh oh. I had plans to simply use my CSP at all the restaurants, etc. Is that going to be a prob now?
Dunno about the spa, but definitely no kosher Laurent Perrier or breakfast without diamond.

Machines=Automated machines.  Stores can still swipe US cards.  Beware that they can have a minimum purchase requirement of 10, 15, or even 20 Euro, so have cash handy.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2011, 11:30:43 PM
Dunno about the spa, but definitely no kosher Laurent Perrier or breakfast without diamond.

Yeah, so I've read  :(

Wasn't able to hit the Diamond challenge to keep it thru 2013, so just a lowly Plat here.

Machines=Automated machines.  Stores can still swipe US cards. 

Got it. Thanks. If I call Chase and ask for the "pin" to use the CSP on machines, they'll give it to me?

Beware that they can have a minimum purchase requirement of 10, 15, or even 20 Euro, so have cash handy.

Yeah, read that in your great TR. (I wonder if these guys, like in the US, are violating their merchant agreements by requiring a min spend?)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2011, 11:34:19 PM
Got it. Thanks. If I call Chase and ask for the "pin" to use the CSP on machines, they'll give it to me?
No worky like dat.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2011, 11:49:41 PM
No worky like dat.

Read up on it. Must be more fraud across the pond...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 22, 2011, 09:29:32 AM
Read up on it. Must be more fraud across the pond...

Actually, there is much less fraud here, thanks to Chip&Pin.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 22, 2011, 11:01:30 AM
Actually, there is much less fraud here, thanks to Chip&Pin.

Chicken or the egg, my friend, chicken or the egg.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 22, 2011, 11:13:51 AM
Poll:

Use 44K Hyatt points for 2 nights at PHP or use my two free nights in a suite from Hyatt CC?

Things to think about:

--The points will never expire, the nights from the CC expire after a year AFAICR.
--If I use the points, there is no gaurantee I can get them to apply an suite upgrade cert, the two free nights are automatically in a suite.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on November 22, 2011, 11:19:29 AM
Poll:

Use 44K Hyatt points for 2 nights at PHP or use my two free nights in a suite from Hyatt CC?

Things to think about:

--The points will never expire, the nights from the CC expire after a year AFAICR.
--If I use the points, there is no gaurantee I can get them to apply an suite upgrade cert, the two free nights are automatically in a suite.
... So why wold you use points?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 22, 2011, 11:23:43 AM
Good question. I left that part off.

--though not a guarantee that I'd be able to get them applied, the suite certs expire in feb 2012 I believe.
--I have plans to go to either Kauai or Tahiti or Maldives at some point over the next year or so, and would love to be use the free nights then and be in a suite.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chaikel on November 22, 2011, 11:36:18 AM
Good question. I left that part off.

--though not a guarantee that I'd be able to get them applied, the suite certs expire in feb 2012 I believe.
--I have plans to go to either Kauai or Tahiti or Maldives at some point over the next year or so, and would love to be use the free nights then and be in a suite.
Then I don't know if anyone can answer that for you. It's dependant on the odds of you going b4 they expire vs. how bad you want a suite at one of those places
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 12:06:34 AM
Yea, I know, I guess... I was hoping someone would have a brilliant insight.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
I guess this could help me make a decision, if anyone knows off the top of their head:

Are there Hyatt properties in Tahiti/Bora Bora or Hawaii that would militate towards saving the two Hyatt nights in a suite?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 23, 2011, 12:41:38 AM
I guess this could help me make a decision, if anyone knows off the top of their head:

Are there Hyatt properties in Tahiti/Bora Bora or Hawaii that would militate towards saving the two Hyatt nights in a suite?
A Hyatt.com search would show that there are none in Tahiti/Bora Bora.
There are 2 flagship Hyatt properties on Maui and Kauai though where a suite would be very nice.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 01:42:46 AM
A Hyatt.com search would show that there are none in Tahiti/Bora Bora.
There are 2 flagship Hyatt properties on Maui and Kauai though where a suite would be very nice.

Thanks. Looks like Tahiti may have to wait for another year. Easier to use points getting to HI and, as you say, have flagship props there.

Would love to see your TR on Moorea vs. BOB.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 23, 2011, 01:45:46 AM
Would love to see your TR on Moorea vs. BOB.
Me too :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 01:48:36 AM
Me too :P

You mentioned in that thread that you hope to make one. Any plans on realizing those hopes?

Heck, you might as well plan it (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11476.msg143642#msg143642), and maybe you'll get lucky and be able to go :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 04:14:49 PM
OK DDFers... off to Paris.

Decided to just use the points (maybe save the suite nights for HI) and spoke to the PHP about using a suite upgrade cert and she said it's likely I can and to speak with her when I get there.

Thanks for all your help! Special shoutout to Dan for answering all my pesky questions.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on November 23, 2011, 04:15:47 PM
OK DDFers... off to Paris.

Decided to just use the points (maybe save the suite nights for HI) and spoke to the PHP about using a suite upgrade cert and she said it's likely I can and to speak with her when I get there.

Thanks for all your help! Special shoutout to Dan for answering my pesky questions.
have a great trip
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 23, 2011, 04:17:34 PM
have a great trip
+1, pics and TR please.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 04:18:16 PM
have a great trip

Thanks.

+1, pics and TR please.

But, of course.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: twentie4hrs on November 23, 2011, 08:41:24 PM
has anyone been to gam gam In  Paris, I thought I remembered Dan putting up pics of there a while back
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 08:43:18 PM
Mini DO in the Oasis Lounge in JFK!

AJK: JFK-AMS-CDG
twentie4hrs: JFK-AMS-TLV
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: twentie4hrs on November 23, 2011, 08:44:25 PM
not so "mini" after my stop off at Carlos and gabbys
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2011, 08:48:00 PM
Anyone who has been to Paris since Sprint axed their international data roaming plan:

What did you do? They wanna charge me $19.00/MB  :o


not so "mini" after my stop off at Carlos and gabbys

LOL.

Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on November 23, 2011, 10:16:32 PM
Anyone who has been to Paris since Sprint axed their international data roaming plan:

What did you do? They wanna charge me $19.00/MB  :o




Took an unlocked phone and borrowed a  prepaid sim that had data. Sprint's prices are crazy. I miss their old data plans.

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Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 24, 2011, 08:44:52 AM
OK DDFers... off to Paris.
try to get VDB'd KL oversells flights like crazy
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 28, 2011, 09:41:42 AM
So I'm sitting in the KLM Lounge in AMS (huge), and I realized my TR is already 4 pages long and I'm only halfway done.

Would you guys prefer a shorter one with just the highlights, or a longer one with details? (I'd separate each heading in a different post to help streamline the conversation.)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on November 28, 2011, 10:13:42 AM
I was last week in the AMS business lounge. Didnt like it, to big.... For a airport like AMS the homeairline KLM should have more then one lounge.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 28, 2011, 10:19:46 AM
I was last week in the AMS business lounge. Didnt like it, to big.... For a airport like AMS the homeairline KLM should have more then one lounge.

Oh, but they do. They have at least two, as last week I was in a completely different one, but smaller than this one (though also quite large).

They may have more, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on November 28, 2011, 10:21:34 AM
Well I was in the big one (think 25) and didnt like it....
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 28, 2011, 10:26:18 AM
Well I was in the big one (think 25) and didnt like it....

I'm in 52, and its huge. Can't remember which one I was in last week. You didn't like it because it was big?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on November 28, 2011, 11:53:48 AM
it has no style, no nice couches, no service. I was in 52 and its way to big. Its like a big waiting hall with free food. I have been to alot of lounges. Male had the worst, after this was AMS.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on November 28, 2011, 05:47:28 PM
So I'm sitting in the KLM Lounge in AMS (huge), and I realized my TR is already 4 pages long and I'm only halfway done.

Would you guys prefer a shorter one with just the highlights, or a longer one with details? (I'd separate each heading in a different post to help streamline the conversation.)
One vote for details.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on November 28, 2011, 06:33:42 PM
One vote for details.

+1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 29, 2011, 06:45:55 PM
Two votes for the longer one, zero for the highlights. Longer one it is.

Will try and finish it in the next day or so.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on November 29, 2011, 06:49:17 PM
Two votes for the longer one, zero for the highlights. Longer one it is.

Will try and finish it in the next day or so.

maybe have an executive summary at the top or at the end in bullet point form? might be helpful for quick review...looking forward!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 30, 2011, 07:02:27 AM
it has no style, no nice couches, no service. I was in 52 and its way to big. Its like a big waiting hall with free food. I have been to alot of lounges. Male had the worst, after this was AMS.
You've never been to TLV?!

AJK - how did you get into the lounge?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 07:59:08 AM
AJK - how did you get into the lounge?

See upcoming TR :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 04:39:47 PM
Introduction:
As many of you know, during a short window several weeks ago, KLM--through a seeming price-glitch--was offering US-based travel to Europe at a fraction of the usual cost. My wife and I couldn’t resist the opportunity, and we took advantage of the glitch by buying tickets from JFK-CDG with a short layover in AMS for ~$440.

Wednesday Evening:
After checking in at JFK, but before going through security, we chose to bide our time in the Oasis Lounge in Terminal 4. Though one could gain entry to the Oasis with Priority Pass, because my wife did not get the AMEX Platinum (and thereby the Priority Pass), I chose to use my Delta status, which gave my wife complementary access as well. The usual entry-fee is $45 per person.

The Oasis is definitely above-average, at least in relation to the lounges I’ve been in before. Among the amenities: self-serve bar including hard alcohol, beer, and wine; private shower (but only one); assortment of cookies, chips, fruit etc. After grabbing a Heineken and chocolate chip cookies, I settled down to do a few last minute preparations.

Heads up for those with Sprint: In the past, when I went out of the country, I simply called Sprint and added the pro-ratable international plan to my line, which gave me unlimited data for what I think was about $70/month. However, when I called Sprint to add the plan this time, I was surprised to hear that their “international plan” cost $1.29/minute + $19/mb of data. Apparently, they completely axed their flat-rate plan sometime last year and don’t seem to have any plans to bring it back. I took this as an opportunity to become unwired for four days.

A few minutes before we left the lounge, I bumped into fellow DDF’er twentie4hrs who also got in on the KLM bonanza, but he chose instead to take his wife to TLV.

Once at the gate, they were offering business class upgrades for 25,000 Delta Skymiles. The thought of flying business to AMS for, essentially, $170* + 25,000 Skymiles was almost too good to pass up. In the end, though, we didn’t do it for a number of reasons. First, for 25,000 Skymiles I can get a transcontinental Delta flight worth $400-500. To my wife and me, it wasn’t worth the $800-1000 it would “cost” us to fly business class for a relatively short seven hour flight. We both agreed, though, that had it been 10+ hours, we would have splurged.

Second, once we had decided against paying the miles to upgrade, we went up to the gate agent and simply asked if they’d upgrade us anyway, without miles. Surprisingly, we were given a complementary upgrade from coach to Economy Comfort (more on that below) simply by asking. The usual cost for that upgrade is about $110/seat.

Third, and finally, as it turned out, due to massive tail winds of up to 190mph, the 7 hour 15 minute flight actually ended up being a 5 hour 50 minute flight, further reinforcing our analysis to forego business this time ‘round. (Again, to us—and each person would likely conduct this analysis differently—it wasn’t worth paying in excess of $150/hr to sit on the second floor with the big-wigs, like, say, twentie4hrs :P Though, in his defense, for him it made a lot of sense.)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
Flight to Amsterdam:

Just a few thoughts – First, let me start off by saying there actually is a large difference between KLM’s coach and their Economy Comfort. Though their EC does not include seat power (like Delta does), the individual seat has a great deal more leg room (think an entire cabin of exit row seats), and it reclines noticeably much further. Also, the ECs are up front, so you’re the first ones to deplane, which is nice.

Second, though the 190mph tail winds helped shave over an hour from our flight, they caused some of the worst turbulence we probably have ever felt. Though it lasted only a few moments, it worried me just enough that I reached down and fastened my seat belt, perhaps in an abundance of caution, but nonetheless endeavoring to avoid this (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26989843/ns/travel-news/t/injured-turbulence-china-air-flight/).

Third, the KLM entertainment system was probably the best I have experienced, if only for the breadth of titles they offered. My wife and I were able to pick from what seemed like well over 100 titles, all on demand. She chose Water for Elephants; I chose X-Men: First Class. (Don’t read into either of our choices :P)

KLM Lounge:

The KLM lounge in Amsterdam was quite large. And, unlike the Oasis at JFK Terminal 4 (which only has one), this lounge had a number of showers, one of which I took full advantage. Also, the chairs here seemed more plentiful and more comfortable. The lounge itself was on the second floor of the airport, and overlooked the terminal below. The one drawback, however, was that because this was AMS and not JFK, none of the snacks and such were kosher. That being said, they had some of the tastiest tangerines we’ve had in awhile. Also the service seemed to be better: at one point two lounge attendants came by, one with a tray of sausage and cheese sandwiches, the other with mustard and napkins.

Flight to Paris:

Pretty quick hop over from AMS to CDG on a KLM flight operated by Air France. There were three classes of service (first, business, and coach). We were upgraded from coach to business, but as has been mentioned before among our ranks, international first/business is a joke. First class simply means that the middle seat cannot be booked, and business class simply means a coach ticket with the service of first class. Seats aren’t roomier, no more leg room, no seat power, nadda. Definitely not worth using miles or (gasp) paying for an upgrade. Also worth noting is that of the 108 seats in business and first, only 11 were occupied. We were also the only 2 people (out of 48) in business, so we had 8 full rows of six seats to ourselves, which was nice.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 04:46:10 PM
Arrival in Paris:

Walked to Roissy Bus and tried to buy tickets using my CSP for 20 frustrating minutes before remembering the whole “chip & pin” ridiculousness. We finally ended up exchanging money (at a terrible rate) in the airport and giving the driver cash on board. Because of traffic, trip took about 60 minutes. (Ironic tidbit: On the way to the hotel, we drove past a Vente-Privee store/factory!)

Park Hyatt Paris:

About a week before we left for CDG, I called PHP to book a room and was told there was absolutely nothing available. I called a few times during the days leading up to our departure and thankfully was able to secure the PHP for Thursday night and then later on for Friday night as well. (The CSR who booked us was extremely surprised there was any availability at all let alone award availability given the holidays and proximity to travel.) We stayed on points, with each night requiring 22,000 Hyatt points. Though I had tried to secure a suite upgrade using one of my upgrade certificates (both a day prior to our arrival and at check-in), the PHP’s reservations manager said there were no suites available as they were chock-full. Given the booking CSR’s reaction to availability, I wasn’t surprised they couldn’t upgrade us to a suite. They did, however, upgrade us to a Park Deluxe room (which is a bit larger than their standard room). The room, if paid for, would have been ~$972/night. Thus, we got about 4.4cpm, a pretty great redemption rate.

The hotel, in terms of location, is amazing. It is in the heart of Paris, right down the street from the Paris Opera and Vendome Place (a shopping promenade for the uber-wealthy with stores like Patek Phillipe, Cartier, Tiffany’s etc.). Perhaps more importantly, it’s also only a two minute walk to the Opera Station of the Paris Metro (more on metro below).

The hotel is luxurious, and the service is impeccable. Like someone mentioned on here before, it felt as though there was one employee per guest. While most of the time it was appreciated, there were times when my wife and I felt it was slightly overbearing, almost Big Brother-ish. Our room did have a balcony, but aside from briefly checking it out, we never really sat outside because it wasn’t warm enough outside. We also had occasion to take advantage of the PHP’s hot tub and sauna, which after a full day of running around was extremely relaxing. The bathroom we had was also nice with a separate rain shower and bath, and a separate room for the toilet. Although we weren’t in the hotel very much to use it, we appreciated the free WiFi (which we got with Hyatt Platinum status). All that being said, I can’t say we were blown away by the PHP. Perhaps it’s because we didn’t get to experience a PHP suite, or maybe because we should have done a better job at managing our expectations despite some extremely positive reviews? I’m not sure. But would I stay here again? Absolutely.

Thursday Night:

We hopped on the Metro and went to Darjeeling. Because we knew before hand about a general lack of English menus in Paris, we avoided the problem entirely by, before leaving the PHP, looking up the menu online, and deciding what we wanted using Google translate.

When we got there, Darjeeling was so busy they were turning people away. Luckily, I had made a reservation using my computer + Google Voice. (When will hotels stop charging for local calls?? I know, I know, probably never, but at $1,000 a night, I think they should consider throwing it in.)

The food at Darjeeling was tasty...the ambience terrible. We thought the restaurant was horrendously decorated and the tables were so close to one another it felt like the people next to us (on both sides) were sitting in our laps. But, as I said, the food was tasty. Also, we felt the portions, considering their cost, should have been 150-200% larger (or cheaper).

After dinner, we hopped back on the Metro to the Eiffel Tower--despite basically falling asleep in our main course--because we wanted to utilize every moment we had in Paris. As soon as we got off the train and turned the corner, the Eiffel Tower was having its famous hourly light show. It was truly a sight to behold. It was then I got down on one knee and proposed to my wife again. She said yes. OK, fine, just kidding (about the proposal, not the answer), but it sure seemed like it could have been appropriate. We spent about an hour there and then took the Metro back to PHP.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 04:48:20 PM
Metro:

A word about the Metro: Unlike the MTA in NYC, we never waited longer than about four minutes for a train which, if you’ve ever had to wait 30+ minutes for a train in NYC, is extremely convenient. Also, each station has a sign showing the ETA of the next two trains which, again, is very convenient. And, as noted by others, the Metro can basically take you wherever you need to go in Paris. During our time there, we never stepped foot in a cab, thus getting to better experience Paris and save money. Personally, we bought 10-packs for 12.50 EUR and went through about three of them. Note: Like buying tickets for the Roissy Bus, you cannot buy them with an American credit card from the kiosk. You have to buy them from someone behind the counter who can swipe the CC. Unfortunately, though, not every station has the ability to sell/swipe for tickets.

Friday:

On Friday morning, we went back to the Eiffel Tower to meet up for a 9:30-1:30 Segway tour of Paris. This may have been the highlight of our trip. (A special thanks to Ergel for helping me get a sizeable discount.) More details of the tour can be found here. First of all, riding a Segway is super fun. It only takes about five minutes to get the hang of it, and then you’re ready for primetime. Second, seeing Paris on a Segway (mine was nicknamed Segs and the City) was just… perfect. It’s like taking a walking tour, except without having to walk, while at the same time retaining the ability to stop and look more closely at sites as if you were. Our tour guide spoke perfect English (which for Paris was pretty uncommon in our experience) and was quite knowledgeable. Among the things we saw were the military academy that Napoleon attended, his tomb, Museum De Orsay, Louvre, Eiffel Tower, and Plaza De La Concorde.
After the tour, we hopped on the Metro to the Jewish District of La Marais to eat something and get some goodies for Shabbas. For lunch we picked up some falafel at L'As du Fallafel. The falafel itself was the best falafel I’ve ever tasted, hands down. But for some reason, when it was added to the entire sandwich it lost some of its flair. (Maybe that’s because I’m not such a huge fan of red cabbage.) While eating our falafel outside, a car full of Chabad kids hanging out the windows and sunroof came down the alley singing and playing “Mashiach, Mashiach, Mashiach, oy yoy yoy.” Was quite a sight, and it seemed from people’s reactions that it was a pretty usual occurrence. Afterwards, we walked to Korcarz bakery right down the street and picked up some French pastries and some challah. Most were good, one was spectacular (the brownies). On our way back to the hotel, we picked up some food for Shabbas lunch, which we ate at the hotel.

When we arrived back at the hotel, we changed and headed downstairs for a little pre-Shabbas relaxation in the hot tub and sauna. Shortly thereafter, we changed for Shabbas, stopped at the front desk to let them know to open the side staircase for us for Shabbas, and took the Metro to Chabad.

Friday night:

Davening was a bit longer than I would have liked (they have an hour shiur between mincha and kabbalas shabbas that was in French), but the entire experience was wonderful. The food was good, and even though we were sitting at a table mostly comprised of French and Moroccan people, their English was good enough that the conversation flowed smoothly enough.

The walk home, along Champs Elysees, was the second highlight of the trip. With the lights, and the holiday additions, the street is just alive with beauty. Though the walk is supposed to only take 35 minutes, it took us over two hours to make it back to the PHP. We took detours along the Seine, we watched the Eiffel Tower light show (albeit from farther away), and we hung out in Plaza De La Concorde. It was probably the best walking experience we’ve ever had.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 04:51:53 PM
Shabbas day:

On Shabbas morning, we davened at the Great Synagogue of Paris or “La Victoire synagogue.” It is a truly breathtaking shul with vaulted ceilings, stained glass windows, and antique wooden pews. Also, we quite enjoyed the choir that performed along with the Chazzan. There was a gala Kiddush afterwards, and then we walked back to PHP.

On our way home, we spied a beautiful red Ferrari 458 parked in the fire lane with its hazards on right in front of a jewelry store. I had a sneaking suspicion its owner was buying some extravagant piece of jewelry for his lucky lady, and we wanted to see who belonged to that lovely piece of machinery, so we stuck around. Just a couple minutes later, some <30 year old with a large bag comes prancing out of the store, flings his purchase in the trunk (which is in the front of the 458) like a bag of bananas and zooms off. Ah, the life.

Saturday night:

Because we weren’t able to secure more than two nights at the PHP, we had to look for another option. A special thanks to E for suggesting--and then helping out with the reservations to—the Intercontinental Le Grand, a 45 second walk from the PHP. At about 6:00 PM we checked out of the PHP and walked to the Intercontinental Le Grand. Initially, while checking in, the agent balked at upgrading us. After a bit of sweet talking, he upgraded us to a junior suite. The room, if paid for, would have been ~$840/night. Suffice it to say, we got a 5.6cpm redemption.

There is an entirely different feel to the Le Grand than the PHP. Whereas the PHP is subdued and somewhat secluded, the Le Grand is and splashy and stately. To give you a bit of perspective, each floor of rooms has >1km of hallways, and our room was, at least to us, enormous. The bathroom was about twice the size of the room at the PHP, though you have to keep in mind we did not have a suite at the PHP, so it’s a bit like comparing apples and oranges.  The Le Grand, although service oriented, was not as “overbearing” as the PHP and we found that we liked the Le Grand’s approach slightly better. Also worth noting is that there was no hot tub or sauna at the Le Grand. All told, we absolutely stay here again.

After checking in, we hopped on the metro back to Le Marais in the 4th district with plans to eat at Pitzman. Unfortunately, though, Pitzman’s was closed. (Mind-boggling, really – why is a pizza store closed on Motzei Shabbas?) Improvising a bit, we hopped back on the metro and went to Tib’s for the main course and La Marina for dessert. We thought Tib’s had fantastic food with super-fast service. When we asked our waiter what ”champaignons” were, he actually went to the back and brought us back some sliced mushrooms. Keeping in mind what was coming next, we only ordered two mains: a crepe filled with mushrooms and cream, topped with cheese and then baked, and a pizza with tomato, olives, mushrooms, onions, and tuna. We also ordered a chocolate milkshake which was apparently made with European chocolate and was the best milkshake we’ve ever tasted.

When finished, we walked 50 feet down the street to La Marina and had the famed “Farandole” dessert raved about by Dan. It truly was good, and so big that we weren’t able to finish the whole thing. After we paid, we hopped back on the metro and went back to the Le Grand for the night.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 04:52:49 PM
Sunday Morning:

We woke up super early to be at the Louvre at 9am. Though we heard that the Louvre was tremendous and impossible to do even in an entire day, we felt that it just wasn’t right to go to Paris and not spend at least a few hours at the Louvre. The Louvre is so large, in fact, that we were told that if you spent looking at each piece of art for only 30 seconds, for 24 hours a day, seven days a week, that it would take over 9 months to see everything inside. Once there, we each turned on our iPods and listened to Rick Steve’s free walking tour Louvre podcast that’ll bring you to, and explain, the highlights of the museum, such as the Mona Lisa, the Winged Victory, some Michelangelo pieces and other Leonardo DeVinci pieces.

At about 12:00, we got on the RER, the Metro’s train system (as opposed to its subway system), and headed southwest to Versailles. It’s a rather quick trip—only about 35 minutes—and we arrived at about 12:30.

In our opinion Versailles is a must see. There are four words we’d use to describe it: opulent, decadent, extravagant and expansive. There is simply no way I can do it justice to it using words. It is a veritable monstrosity that must be seen to be understood. We spent about 5 hours there touring the main Chateau and, oh, the other castle he built for his wife Marie Antionette about a mile away. By the time we got back on the train for Paris, our feet hurt so badly we were limping (we probably walked close to five or six miles throughout the day). Even with that, though, we wouldn’t have missed it.

Sunday night:

We got back to the hotel at about 6:30, showered, changed, and went to our 8:30 reservation at Il Pilazzo, about an eight minute walk from the Le Grand. When we walked in, we were immediately seated, and after a while trying to discern and translate the menu (we couldn’t use Google Translate because there was no free WiFi in the Le Grand, and I wasn’t about to pay $15 for an hour), the waiter came over to us and thankfully placed English menus in our hands. We ordered a Gratin di pasta (pasta with four cheeses), Parpadelle al funghi (mushrooms de Paris, oyster mushrooms, fresh cream, pesto), and Salmone (tomato sauce, mozzarella, smoked salmon, cream). Here, like at Tib’s, the service was fast and the food was good.

By the time we were done, we were so exhausted; we went to the Le Grand, packed and turned in for the night.

Monday:

Head back to JFK! I won't bore you with the details :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on November 30, 2011, 04:58:45 PM
Great TR! Sounds like a great trip.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on November 30, 2011, 05:03:58 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 30, 2011, 11:16:50 PM
Great TR! Sounds like a great trip.

Nice!

Thanks guys.

And, to top it all off, the $440 ticket actually got coded as a Y fare, so between my Delta status and the class bonus for flying KLM, we accrued over 40,000 miles, almost equal to two-round trip domestic award tickets :P

Seems our flights paid for themselves.

EDIT: Seems like only business class tix get the class bonus, so honestly, I'm not quite sure why we got it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on December 01, 2011, 01:26:16 PM
Tx for the great report !
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 01, 2011, 01:39:17 PM
Sounds absolutelty awesome. Very well written too. But...

AJK - how did you get into the lounge?
the KLM one I mean
Also how far is the great synagauge from your hotels?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 01, 2011, 01:45:23 PM
Sounds absolutelty awesome. Very well written too. But... the KLM one I mean
Also how far is the great synagauge from your hotels?

When I stayed at the Westin (down the block from the PHP) it took about 15-20 minutes to walk to the Great Synagogue.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 01, 2011, 01:46:50 PM
Tx for the great report !

Your welcome! Thanks for posting.

Sounds absolutelty awesome. Very well written too. But... the KLM one I mean
Also how far is the great synagauge from your hotels?

I used my Delta status (that's in the TR :P). Anybody Gold Medallion or higher is deemed SkyTeam Elite Plus, which gets access for two to all lounges of SkyTeam members.

The great synagogue is about a 12-15 minute walk from the Opera (close to both hotels).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 01, 2011, 01:48:01 PM
When I stayed at the Westin (down the block from the PHP) it took about 15-20 minutes to walk to the Great Synagogue.

I saw the Westin a few times, it looked nice. Did you like it? In fact, we met two couples at Chabad on Friday night who were staying there.

They were blowing close to a million *W points on AA business flights, and 72K/night at the Westin for two rooms.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on December 01, 2011, 01:52:26 PM
I saw the Westin a few times, it looked nice. Did you like it? In fact, we met two couples at Chabad on Friday night who were staying there.

They were blowing close to a million *W points on AA business flights, and 72K/night at the Westin for two rooms.

I thought it was nice. I believe I wrote a TR about it back in March as well. We stayed in a Jr. Suite for only 22,500/night (IIRC) which is only 2,500 more per night than a regular room. From what I heard, the regular rooms are pretty small. I thought the jr. suite was pretty nice and more than enough space for my wife and myself. We had a small sitting area with some windows, a nice size sleeping area with a desk in the corner and a bathroom with shower/bath combo and separate toilet room with badet. I would stay there again considering the relatively cheap rate for the upgraded room. 

Shabbos at the Westin was really easy because there is a staircase from right in the back of the lobby, so we didn't have to even ask for someone to unlock a special side door for us.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 01, 2011, 02:18:46 PM
I thought it was nice. I believe I wrote a TR about it back in March as well. We stayed in a Jr. Suite for only 22,500/night (IIRC) which is only 2,500 more per night than a regular room. From what I heard, the regular rooms are pretty small. I thought the jr. suite was pretty nice and more than enough space for my wife and myself. We had a small sitting area with some windows, a nice size sleeping area with a desk in the corner and a bathroom with shower/bath combo and separate toilet room with badet. I would stay there again considering the relatively cheap rate for the upgraded room. 

Shabbos at the Westin was really easy because there is a staircase from right in the back of the lobby, so we didn't have to even ask for someone to unlock a special side door for us.

22.5K a night for a junior suite in that area of Paris seems like a steal.

Maybe I'll check it out next time :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on December 01, 2011, 05:17:00 PM
1,000,000 *W points? Ouch!

@AJK

How many points was the Le Grand?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 01, 2011, 06:31:43 PM
1,000,000 *W points? Ouch!

@AJK

How many points was the Le Grand?

Yea, he spend a million every year on his CC, so he uses a million a year on one grand trip.

The Le Grand was 40,000 Priority Club points/night.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: seemorehabs on December 13, 2011, 12:07:21 PM
any good bakery and or choclate place in the 17th
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mguy on December 14, 2011, 08:06:58 PM
I saw the Westin a few times, it looked nice. Did you like it?

Just one person's opinion on the Westin - It's a great location and nice lobby area, but for people that are looking for luxury rooms, I don't think it's the best.

The rooms seemed somewhat plain and sparse. I stayed in the Ambassador's Suite. I came from another 5* hotel the night before (InterContinental London) and there was a noticeable difference.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
Just one person's opinion on the Westin - It's a great location and nice lobby area, but for people that are looking for luxury rooms, I don't think it's the best.

The rooms seemed somewhat plain and sparse. I stayed in the Ambassador's Suite. I came from another 5* hotel the night before (InterContinental London) and there was a noticeable difference.

Comparing the hotels in London to Paris is, from what I understand, tantamount to comparing apples to hand grenades :P

Have you stayed on other hotels in Paris proper?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mguy on December 14, 2011, 08:21:04 PM
Comparing the hotels in London to Paris is, from what I understand, tantamount to comparing apples to hand grenades :P

Have you stayed on other hotels in Paris proper?

No, I don't have much experience with Paris hotels. So whoever reads my opinion should in fact take it with a grain of salt. But I'm scheduled for the Park Hyatt in a couple weeks...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2011, 08:22:17 PM
No, I don't have much experience with Paris hotels. So whoever reads my opinion should in fact take it with a grain of salt. But I'm scheduled for the Park Hyatt in a couple weeks...

Looking forward to your thoughts on the PHP vs. W!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 14, 2011, 09:05:00 PM
Great TR, AJK.

A few comments.

1. I would have done 25K DL miles for an upgrade without batting an eye.  They are always running promotions like the current one for 1.06 cpm so it's extremely unfair to call that $150/hour.  25K miles is just $265 currently, a no-brainer for international business IMHO.

2. You read reviews, such as mine, about the PH Paris from people with Diamond status, and had your expectations too high.  Had you received expensive champagne, extravagant free kosher breakfasts, free perfumes, etc, etc, you would have been raving about the place.  Without that it's just a nice understated luxury hotel in a great location. Happy you got to enjoy the lovely spa though.

3. Glad you enjoyed Chabad of CE.  The food was great there for us and we met many interesting couples from around the world.  And as you said the walk back to the PH is amazing.  The shliach there is also fascinating, originally from Rio, and fluent in tons of languages.  A break before maariv is common in many chabad shul as we don't like to say sh'ma before the proper time (about 38-45 minutes after shkia).

4. Shame you missed Pitzman, we thought it was some of the best pizza we ever had.

5. Glad you listened to the advice about eating at Tib's and dessert and LM.

6. Did you miss the chocolate shops?

7. Westin does not have any luxury hotels, but most are quite comfortable.  Not in the same class as a PH at all, regardless of the city.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
I must say, I've been waiting for your comments on the TR.

Glad you enjoyed it; you and DDF were a large part in making it happen, so thank you.

To answer your questions:

1. I would have done 25K DL miles for an upgrade without batting an eye.  They are always running promotions like the current one for 1.06 cpm so it's extremely unfair to call that $150/hour.  25K miles is just $265 currently, a no-brainer for international business IMHO.

I hear you. Perhaps with enough time to reflect, I might have chosen differently. However, when cast in the light of exchanging up to $1,000 in domestic travel for (what turned out to be) 5.5 hours in international business, I just couldn't pull the trigger.

My wife asked me: "You mean if we choose not to fly business now, we can go to LA for the weekend instead?"

She sealed the decision when I answered, "yes."

2. You read reviews, such as mine, about the PH Paris from people with Diamond status, and had your expectations too high.  Had you received expensive champagne, extravagant free kosher breakfasts, free perfumes, etc, etc, you would have been raving about the place.  Without that it's just a nice understated luxury hotel in a great location. Happy you got to enjoy the lovely spa though.

Yes, I agree. It's quite possible I did not do a spectabulous job managing my expectations. All in all, though, the PHP was a hotel to which I would definitely return. The spa is something that is truly luring and was noticeably missed at the Le Grand (especially after all the walking in Versailles).

3. Glad you enjoyed Chabad of CE.  The food was great there for us and we met many interesting couples from around the world.  And as you said the walk back to the PH is amazing.  The shliach there is also fascinating, originally from Rio, and fluent in tons of languages.  A break before maariv is common in many chabad shul as we don't like to say sh'ma before the proper time (about 38-45 minutes after shkia).

Didn't know about the traditional Chabad break, but the overall the experience was simply great. From the food, to the company, to the Rabbi, everything was perfect. And you cannot beat the price, especially for the timing luxury it affords.

4. Shame you missed Pitzman, we thought it was some of the best pizza we ever had.

Yeah, we were pretty disappointed. But we went to Tib's and La Marina that night instead, so I can't call it a complete failure :P

5. Glad you listened to the advice about eating at Tib's and dessert and LM.

Yes, great recco.

6. Did you miss the chocolate shops?

We tried to go to them when we ate at Tib + LM, but it was a Saturday night and they were closed :(

To make matters even worse, when our friend from Paris found out we missed the chocolate stores, she really let us have it.
 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 14, 2011, 09:49:43 PM
Glad you enjoyed it; you and DDF were a large part in making it happen, so thank you.
YW.  Just got around to reading it now.

Sure, miles can also be worth 50cpm, but to me they can't be worth more than what you can buy them for.
As you can buy them directly from Delta for ~1.06 cents per mile, that is their top value and the number you should have used in your calculation, as that is their replacement cost.

Not all Chabad shuls have a break before maariv.  Chabad houses geared to non-frum people probably won't have a break, while those geared to frum people will likely have a break.  The break between mincha and maariv shouldn't be more than 35 or 40 minutes though, and will often be less if mincha was late, as is often the case.

And you'll just have to go back for Pitzman and the chocolate shops.  And to stay at the PHP as a diamond ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2011, 09:52:38 PM
Yes, it seems the replacement cost would have been a better metric by which to judge, but I have a feeling my wife still would have nixed it when she asked about LA for the weekend :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on February 21, 2012, 11:29:57 AM
Can someone get me an address of Ardely or Damyel. A google search is comeing up with somewhere in the 9th district. I was looking on google street maps next to la marina and tibs, but couldn't find it. Did they move?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on February 21, 2012, 11:32:31 AM
sorry, i found it
Title: paris vacation
Post by: kdp on February 26, 2012, 02:55:40 AM
so heres the deal im going to paris for three night stay wanted to stay in westin vendome with the starwood points i have turns out the dates i asked for and the room i need (need deluxe cause traveling with wife and kid)doesnt have cash and points,i can only book on straight up points,the hotell is 20,000 a night,i have 60k points is it worth it to use all my points just on this trip,should i sell the points and stay elsewhere?
Title: Re: paris vacation
Post by: sky121 on February 26, 2012, 01:08:49 PM
You could try Priceline and save your points for a different time if you want.
Title: Re: paris vacation
Post by: David B on February 26, 2012, 01:32:03 PM
First, try calling SPG to see if there really is not a Cash & Points options available (you may have already done that -- but the website doesn't always have it, while you can sometimes get it through the SPG call center).

Otherwise, how about the Le Meridien?  Save a few points at least...
Title: Re: paris vacation
Post by: BrooklynCPA on February 27, 2012, 10:24:53 AM
Just as another option there are some nice Radissons in top locations that I can get you for only $250 a night. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on February 27, 2012, 11:31:05 AM
Though I had tried to secure a suite upgrade using one of my upgrade certificates (both a day prior to our arrival and at check-in), the PHP’s reservations manager said there were no suites available as they were chock-full.
They were going to let you use a suite in combo with award?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 27, 2012, 11:34:20 AM
They were going to let you use a suite in combo with award?

Seemed so.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on February 27, 2012, 11:50:11 AM
Seemed so.
Just got shut down for that request. Anyone have any tips? I have two suite upgrades but would rather save those and use UR + expiring suite upgrade
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 28, 2012, 11:57:27 AM
Going with 5 kids. Options are 2 Suites in the Park Hyatt (on a Diamond challenge) or 3 reg rooms in the Grand Inter- continental.

I am inclined to the PH. Opinions?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 28, 2012, 12:04:52 PM
Going with 5 kids. Options are 2 Suites in the Park Hyatt (on a Diamond challenge) or 3 reg rooms in the Grand Inter- continental.

I am inclined to the PH. Opinions?

Stayed in both. Read my TR in this thread.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 11:00:08 AM
Booked 2 suites. Anyone for a Paris DO April 15-19
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 11:04:47 AM
Booked 2 suites. Anyone for a Paris DO April 15-19

How'd you end up getting it done?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 11:07:35 AM
How'd you end up getting it done?
UR pts for 3 nights, in talks to finalize the last night with certs from someone.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on February 29, 2012, 11:10:15 AM
UR pts for 3 nights, in talks to finalize the last night with certs from someone.
I have 4 certs that expire tonight. All yours. Your just going to have a hard time applying them to your reward stay..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 11:11:10 AM
I have 4 certs that expire tonight. All yours
  they have to be valid in April
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on February 29, 2012, 11:13:03 AM
  they have to be valid in April
YMMV. I had a women apply one that was expiring for as far as next year, she said that being that they expire if I make a modification I will lose the upgrade.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 11:15:10 AM
UR pts for 3 nights, in talks to finalize the last night with certs from someone.

You mean for 6 nights?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 11:15:53 AM
YMMV. I had a women apply one that was expiring for as far as next year, she said that being that they expire if I make a modification I will lose the upgrade.
Its an upgrade cert? what does it do for me if I already booked a basic suite? I'm buying 2 suite stay certs.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 11:16:25 AM
Its an upgrade cert? what does it do for me if I already booked a basic suite? I'm buying 2 suite stay certs.

Nadda, AFAIK.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 11:16:40 AM
You mean for 6 nights?
3 nights * 2 rooms, yeah. A bucket of money it cost, but not mine.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 11:18:05 AM
3 nights * 2 rooms, yeah. A bucket of money it cost, but not mine.

I know whose it was :P

In any case, I hope you got a better deal buying the points than you would have gotten booking straight with cash...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 11:21:04 AM
I know whose it was :P

In any case, I hope you got a better deal buying the points than you would have gotten booking straight with cash...
Oh boy. Payed about 30% of list price. Hopefully will get upgraded as a diamond.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on February 29, 2012, 11:22:22 AM
Its an upgrade cert? what does it do for me if I already booked a basic suite? I'm buying 2 suite stay certs.
O I was confused, sorry.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 11:24:10 AM
O I was confused, sorry.
Thanks for the offer.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 11:42:23 AM
Oh boy. Payed about 30% of list price. Hopefully will get upgraded as a diamond.

Wow, buying UR and you only paid 30% of list price seems like a good deal to me all things considered.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on February 29, 2012, 11:43:06 AM
Wow, buying UR and you only paid 30% of list price seems like a good deal to me all things considered.
would u like to explain what u mean
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 29, 2012, 11:44:54 AM
would u like to explain what u mean

It needs explaining?

I'm saying it seems he got a good deal considering he had to buy UR and still only ended up paying 30% of cost.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 29, 2012, 12:11:06 PM
It needs explaining?

I'm saying it seems he got a good deal considering he had to buy UR and still only ended up paying 30% of cost.
upon recon, 50%. (30% of my original 3 rooms plan)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: karen on March 05, 2012, 05:12:13 PM
Could anyone tell me whether I should buy some tour tickets online before leaving for Paris? I am trying to avoid to wait in line for long time. Thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 05, 2012, 11:21:04 PM
Could anyone tell me whether I should buy some tour tickets online before leaving for Paris? I am trying to avoid to wait in line for long time. Thanks!

Yes . You should buy tix to the Eiffel Tower...the lines are ridiculously long...If you want to buy them online, you need to do so in advance.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 05, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
Yes . You should buy tix to the Eiffel Tower...the lines are ridiculously long...If you want to buy them online, you need to do so in advance.
+1 didn't make it to the top because of this (went in August and when I tried to buy tickets they were already sold out
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: karen on March 06, 2012, 09:28:42 AM
Yes . You should buy tix to the Eiffel Tower...the lines are ridiculously long...If you want to buy them online, you need to do so in advance.
Thanks, well do. Bye the way, I will stay in Paris for 4 days, could anyone tell me whether I should by Paris pass or simply bus pass? Thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 06, 2012, 12:03:15 PM
Thanks, well do. Bye the way, I will stay in Paris for 4 days, could anyone tell me whether I should by Paris pass or simply bus pass? Thanks!

Take the metro not the bus. The metro in Paris is very easy to use and takes you everywhere.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 06, 2012, 02:43:23 PM
Take the metro not the bus. The metro in Paris is very easy to use and takes you everywhere.

+1. I used 10 pack tickets to save a bit... if you're going to be traveling more, you may want to look into a (weekly?) pass (forgot what its called).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: karen on March 06, 2012, 03:08:03 PM
+1. I used 10 pack tickets to save a bit... if you're going to be traveling more, you may want to look into a (weekly?) pass (forgot what its called).

Is this the Metro pass what you guys talk about? Thanks!

Quantity   Description   Price
   1 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-014)   $14.91 USD
   2 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-019)   $25.39 USD
   3 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-015)   $33.02 USD
   5 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-016)   $47.62 USD
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: karen on March 06, 2012, 03:31:33 PM
Paris visite pass: Unlimited use of Metro & Bus Network

   Description   Price
   1 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-014)   $14.91 USD
   2 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-019)   $25.39 USD
   3 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-015)   $33.02 USD
   5 Day Adult - Zone 1 to 3 - Paris Center ONLY (Item#E-016)   $47.62 USD




Museum Pass:

   Description   Price
   Paris Museum Pass 2 day (E-115)   $57.49 USD
   Paris Museum Pass 4 day (E-116)   $82.13 USD
   Paris Museum Pass 6 day (E-117)   $104.44 USD



Paris Pass:
      
Code   Description   Days of Week   Child   Youth   Adult   Child   Youth   Adult
2DAY   Unlimited use for 2 consecutive calendar days from time of first use   smtwtfs 45.62   82.95   143.76
4DAY   Unlimited use for 4 consecutive calendar days from time of first use   smtwtfs   59.43   111.97   210.13
6DAY   Unlimited use for 6 consecutive calendar days from time of first use   smtwtfs   74.64   127.18   255.75


I am confused here. If I stayed in Paris for 4 days,

I bought Metro pass + Museum Pass: $46.72 + $82.13 = $128.85.
If I bought Paris Pass, it will cost me $210.13.

Why does the someone buy Paris pass? It is much cheaper to buy separately. Did I miss something here?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on March 20, 2012, 02:28:23 PM
Anyone exprienced travelling from Orly Airport to Park Hyatt?

There is no availablility going into CDG and was wondering how to get from Orly to Vendome.

Unless there is a way to find availability into CDG?

Cheers
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on March 20, 2012, 02:32:33 PM
Anyone exprienced travelling from Orly Airport to Park Hyatt?

There is no availablility going into CDG and was wondering how to get from Orly to Vendome.

Unless there is a way to find availability into CDG?

Cheers
Welcome to DDF!! You can take a light rail and connect to the RER
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2012, 02:33:53 PM
Next time I go even from CDG I'll just take a taxi.  Unless you're by yourself the savings of the bus isn't worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2012, 02:38:49 PM
Next time I go even from CDG I'll just take a taxi.  Unless you're by yourself the savings of the bus isn't worth the hassle.

20 EUR vs (up to) 70 EUR?

You think its worth an additional 50 EUR (more than triple) to take a taxi? Even if it's only ~double at 50 EUR

Maybe it's because you have a kid...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on March 20, 2012, 02:40:33 PM
Next time I go even from CDG I'll just take a taxi.  Unless you're by yourself the savings of the bus isn't worth the hassle.
+100
I was there last year and it wasn't that bad but now as AJK says with a kid I really want to take a taxi, I'm just finding it hard to justify
(up to) 70 EUR
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2012, 02:41:10 PM
43 EUR according to this, though I can't vouch for its accuracy: http://www.worldtaximeter.com/paris/cdg+airport/+Park+Hyatt+Paris

And we came within minutes of missing our flight due to massive delays with the RoissyBus going back to CDG.  It worked without kids, but I definitely wouldn't do it with a kid.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 20, 2012, 02:42:15 PM
20 EUR vs (up to) 70 EUR?

You think its worth an additional 50 EUR (more than triple) to take a taxi? Even if it's only double...

Maybe it's because you have a kid...
With a kid its a no brainer. Without a kid I'd probably take the bus but only because its so close and no transfers. From Orly I'd for sure take a cab
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on March 20, 2012, 02:43:18 PM
And we came within minutes of missing our flight due to massive delays with the RoissyBus going back to CDG.  It worked without kids, but I definitely wouldn't do it with a kid.
You could still be subject to traffic with a Taxi. Only the train is free of that.
Does anyone know of an affordable taxi into the city?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2012, 02:43:57 PM
28 EUR for ORY-PHP: http://www.worldtaximeter.com/paris/ory+airport/+Park+Hyatt+Paris
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2012, 02:44:26 PM
You could still be subject to traffic with a Taxi. Only the train is free of that.
Does anyone know of an affordable taxi into the city?

Unless it wasn't traffic related...?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2012, 02:45:16 PM
You could still be subject to traffic with a Taxi. Only the train is free of that.
Does anyone know of an affordable taxi into the city?
I'm not talking about traffic, I'm talking about waiting 90 minutes at the Opera stop for a single bus to arrive and then pushing and shoving to get onto the bus ahead of the huge angry mob scene.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2012, 02:46:18 PM
I'm not talking about traffic, I'm talking about waiting 90 minutes at the Opera stop for a single bus to arrive and then pushing and shoving to get onto the bus ahead of the huge angry mob scene.

That's really bad. 90 minutes late? I bet some people did miss their flights.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2012, 02:48:26 PM
That's really bad. 90 minutes late? I bet some people did miss their flights.
You better believe it, we were just lucky we left a lot of time.  Not a fun experience at all, can't imagine that with a kid.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
You better believe it, we were just lucky we left a lot of time.  Not a fun experience at all, can't imagine that with a kid.

Any explanation as to why they were an hour and half late? (Not that you could understand it, unless you speak French...)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2012, 02:53:13 PM
C'est la vie
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2012, 02:58:34 PM
An explanation AND in French. Pshh.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 23, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
Booked 2 suits @  33k/night, although there were no regular rooms available PHP agent agreed to change it to 3 regular rooms.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on March 30, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
Although there were no regular rooms available PHP agent agreed to change it to 3 regular rooms.
Huh?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 30, 2012, 09:51:27 AM
Huh?
Price for 2 suites is 66k/night, price for 3 rooms is 66k/night. Albeit there were no basic rooms available, a hotel rep agreed to change the res to the closest to basic they have.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 30, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
Price for 2 suites is 66k/night, price for 3 rooms is 66k/night. Albeit there were no basic rooms available, a hotel rep agreed to change the res to the closest to basic they have.
Yup, I've had success in the past getting the PHP to open regular rooms.  YMMV as always.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 30, 2012, 11:22:30 AM
Yup, I've had success in the past getting the PHP to open regular rooms.  YMMV as always.
Just hope it was a wise change.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on March 30, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
Just hope it was a wise change.
If you need the 3 rooms then it was if your only 2 then it wasn't  ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: artcraftcrocs on April 01, 2012, 08:18:44 PM
im gonna be in paris for 1 night on april 24-25 arriving early morning and leaving the next evening. ive read alot about the places to see and the places to eat in. im looking to stay starwood, my only concern is if the le meridien will be a good choice its half the price of the westin or the W. is this a wise choice? is it a bad location?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 18, 2012, 02:13:57 PM
Anything specific to order at Pitzman? must be quick.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on April 19, 2012, 05:03:34 PM
im gonna be in paris for 1 night on april 24-25 arriving early morning and leaving the next evening. ive read alot about the places to see and the places to eat in. im looking to stay starwood, my only concern is if the le meridien will be a good choice its half the price of the westin or the W. is this a wise choice? is it a bad location?

I believe that the Le Meridian is not in a very good location. The other SPG's are much more central. If you are only there for one night you might want to consider location.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 06, 2012, 02:38:35 PM
i have a stop over in paris for 11 hours what can i do  there going tomrrow from 8 am till 6 45 pm?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 06, 2012, 03:20:21 PM
That's enough time to pretty much do anything you want short of Versailles.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2012, 04:01:42 PM
Its enough time for that as well.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on May 06, 2012, 05:28:34 PM
so where do i start ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2012, 05:31:26 PM
so where do i start ?
Figure out one or 2 things you want to do and do it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 06, 2012, 06:45:15 PM
Its enough time for that as well.
Took us like 6 or 7 hours, but I guess if you rush you can get it done...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 08, 2012, 01:16:39 PM
Does anyone know if the entrance to the arc de trimophe is underneath the arc.  I'm wondering if a kohein is allowed to go inside since the tomb of the unknown soilder is underneath the arc
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2012, 01:21:44 PM
Does anyone know if the entrance to the arc de trimophe is underneath the arc.  I'm wondering if a kohein is allowed to go inside since the tomb of the unknown soilder is underneath the arc

The staircase is within one of the pillars of the arc IIRC.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 08, 2012, 01:22:43 PM
is the door to the starcase under the arc?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2012, 01:25:50 PM
is the door to the starcase under the arc?

I can't remember specifically where the door was, sorry.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: BrooklynCPA on May 08, 2012, 02:41:40 PM
is the door to the starcase under the arc?

I am pretty sure that it is underneath. However, you are really not missing much by not going up!!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 08, 2012, 03:03:43 PM
So what is there to do in paris if your a kohein. Louvre is out, arc de trimomphe is out, museum de invaleds is out.
I have one day for versailles and one morning for eifel tower. Still have another day to fill up
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 08, 2012, 03:16:56 PM
Segway tour was one of the highlights of our trip. You can read my TR earlier in the thread.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 08, 2012, 03:18:33 PM
Going with a baby. No babys on segways
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 11, 2012, 03:35:29 PM
Is there a kosher bakery/pizza/sandwhich type of place near the hyatt
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 11, 2012, 03:39:52 PM
Is there a kosher bakery/pizza/sandwhich type of place near the hyatt
Define near, but no
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 11, 2012, 03:44:19 PM
10 minute walk
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 11, 2012, 03:46:15 PM
does korcaz bakery have that kind of stuff?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 11, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
So what is there to do in paris if your a kohein. Louvre is out, arc de trimomphe is out, museum de invaleds is out.
I have one day for versailles and one morning for eifel tower. Still have another day to fill up
why can't you go to the arc? It is cool to just look at it from nearby just don't enter. 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on May 11, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
That's what im planning. Just trying to figure out whether I will buy tickets to it.
I think I'm going to check out the science center though. Has anyone been there?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 11, 2012, 04:19:30 PM
That's what im planning. Just trying to figure out whether I will buy tickets to it.

you do not need tickets if you simply plan on looking. Good luck getting across the street though, if you cross on top you have to be half brave half mad.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 11, 2012, 04:21:42 PM
you do not need tickets if you simply plan on looking. Good luck getting across the street though, if you cross on top you have to be half brave half mad.
There's a way to go under? Crossing that street is one of the crazier things I've done
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 11, 2012, 04:44:31 PM
does korcaz bakery have that kind of stuff?

Korcarz is a bakery... doesn't have pizza.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 11, 2012, 04:54:41 PM
Its a restaurant as well, just not a very good one.
Stick to Pitzman.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 11, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
Its a restaurant as well, just not a very good one.
Stick to Pitzman.

Still upset they closed early that Friday I was there.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 11, 2012, 05:02:05 PM
Still upset they closed early that Friday I was there.
Don't know what the fuss is all about anyways
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 11, 2012, 06:03:47 PM
There's a way to go under? Crossing that street is one of the crazier things I've done
yes you can go under if I am not mistaken, was closed went I went but I believe there is an underpass under Champs Elysee.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 12, 2012, 09:47:51 PM
Don't know what the fuss is all about anyways

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-In the Pletzel, the old jewish neighborhood in the 4th district, we ate at Pitzman which was some of the best Pizza I’ve ever had. I tried the tropical Pizza with Hearts of Palm, Pineapple, mushrooms, and corn! It was really quite good! And the fluffy crepe with chocolate and bananas was very good as well! (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517/)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 12, 2012, 09:55:54 PM

I know that dan liked it. I was saying I didn't think it was anything special
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 12, 2012, 10:06:49 PM
Ergel vs. Dan...

Hmmm.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on May 12, 2012, 10:07:26 PM
Ergel vs. Dan...

Hmmm.
its not a fight he was stating his opinion. not everything needs to be an argument or a fight
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 12, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
its not a fight he was stating his opinion. not everything needs to be an argument or a fight

Who's arguing?

I'm simply stating I trust Dan's opinion more.

I'm entitled to my opinion, too, right?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 12, 2012, 11:32:06 PM
Pitzman is quite funny.
Either people seem to think it's the best thing ever or nothing special at all.

Al Ta'am v'reiach...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on May 29, 2012, 12:45:41 PM
Almost all confirmed, will be in Paris for a long weekend, and eating Shabbos at chabad.

 My question is, most of you have mentioned that you walked around with a cap etc. so as not stand out as much, what did you do on Shabbos walking from the PH to the shul and back? Wear a cap and leave your frock or jacket and hat at the shul?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2012, 01:20:42 PM
Take the metro to shul and leave all of your garb there for shabbos.
Also bring an extra metro ticket to take the metro home on motzei shabbos with your garb.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on May 29, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
Thanks Dan.
Going to confirm with United. Interesting fact in order to hold an award ticket, UA told me to book online then when it comes to pay the tax select to pay  with CC by phone, this way they hold your reservation for 72 hours.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2012, 02:16:59 PM
Yup, you can hold any ticket like that.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 29, 2012, 02:27:03 PM
I wore my kippa back from Chabad on Friday night. Didn't feel at all out of place to me.

Then again, if you're going to be wearing a kaputta, streimel, etc, you may want to just leave it as Dan suggested.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on May 29, 2012, 06:43:30 PM
@AJK no shtreimel here just jacket.
Anyway my trip is planned almost as a carbon copy of yours except Motzie Shabbos as the zman is 11:04 pm!! that week in Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 29, 2012, 07:58:17 PM
@AJK no shtreimel here just jacket.
Anyway my trip is planned almost as a carbon copy of yours except Motzie Shabbos as the zman is 11:04 pm!! that week in Paris.

You should be fine.

How long you going for?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on May 29, 2012, 08:10:25 PM
Can still change, but the plan so far is to   land in Paris Thursday morning stay till Monday morning, then on Monday on to Zurich till Wed evening, and back to NY.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 29, 2012, 08:16:51 PM
Get ready for a whirlwind trip! :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on May 30, 2012, 04:31:25 AM
Yup, you can hold any ticket like that.

Any other airline work like that ? DL will only hold 48 hours from USA . Any slick workaround ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on May 30, 2012, 12:44:19 PM
2 questions.
1) If going with a 4 month old would it be wiser to bring a stroller or baby carrier?
2) did anyone find a cheap taxi to get from CDG to PHP and back?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on May 30, 2012, 01:32:52 PM
2 questions.
1) If going with a 4 month old would it be wiser to bring a stroller or baby carrier?
2) did anyone find a cheap taxi to get from CDG to PHP and back?


Re Question # 2  NO!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on June 05, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
Currently at the PHP and requested a crib. The hotel went the extra mile and equipped my room with a bottle warmer, potty, baby tub, baby soaps and oils....and a crib :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 05, 2012, 02:41:38 PM
Currently at the PHP and requested a crib. The hotel went the extra mile and equipped my room with a bottle warmer, potty, baby tub, baby soaps and oils....and a crib :)

Such is what you get the PHP :)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 05, 2012, 04:44:24 PM
Currently at the PHP and requested a crib. The hotel went the extra mile and equipped my room with a bottle warmer, potty, baby tub, baby soaps and oils....and a crib :)
Gotta love the PHP!
The haters just never experienced the incredible service they offer.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ORD747 on June 14, 2012, 06:01:25 PM
In Parisnow. For my first dinner I wanted to go to Darjeeling as it is highly reccomended here but when  I got there, it said closed and they moved somewhere else. I decode to eat at LeShine instead a few blocks from Darjeeling. There was no sign on the front that it was kosher. Only way I would have known is because I saw a few people with kippas in it. We could not get a table as it was full and we had no reservation. A wonderful man, who I think was a manager was very patient and gave us a lot of help with our restaurant order as we don't speak French. Food was great and not terribly expensive. Highly reccomended the place to all.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 14, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
I know everyone says not to go to Paris in August. And I've only ever been there in June.  Is it really not worth going in August? Should I plan a trip for somewhere else instead?
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 14, 2012, 10:02:28 PM
I know everyone says not to go to Paris in August. And I've only ever been there in June.  Is it really not worth going in August? Should I plan a trip for somewhere else instead?
It was hot when we went but it did not ruin our trip
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on June 15, 2012, 02:14:06 AM
It was hot when we went but it did not ruin our trip

Paris  more north than Munich Vienna-- cities thought of being northern -- Paris in august gets hot if they have a heat spell -- see http://goparis.about.com/od/parisbymont1/a/Paris-Weather-Guide.htm
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: artee on July 04, 2012, 06:02:51 PM
Hi everyone, it's my 1st time posting but i've been an avid follower for quite a while...Any suggestions for an authentic Parisian cafe,outdoor seating type, with a good hechsher.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on July 04, 2012, 07:05:42 PM
Hi everyone, it's my 1st time posting but i've been an avid follower for quite a while...Any suggestions for an authentic Parisian cafe,outdoor seating type, with a good hechsher.


I can suggest an authentic Parisian cafe, outdoor seating , but you lost me with the hencsher .
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: artee on July 05, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
hechsher=kosher certification
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: artee on July 05, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
Also any ideas how to maximize on my stay at the park hyatt paris? I want my honeymoon to be really special.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on July 05, 2012, 12:46:09 PM
Also any ideas how to maximize on my stay at the park hyatt paris? I want my honeymoon to be really special.

Email the csr at the PHV and tell them it is your honeymoon. They willl make it special. Or better call and do both
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: artee on July 06, 2012, 12:07:14 PM
will do, thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on July 06, 2012, 02:33:39 PM
Any ideas for what to say if you can't say it's your honeymoon. (Going with kids)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 06, 2012, 02:34:48 PM
Anniversary, birthday, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 06, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
Anniversary, birthday, etc, etc.
I always just say anniversary or honeymoon, but I guess bday is best shot with kids.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2012, 04:50:41 PM
Also the easiest to get busted on.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on July 06, 2012, 04:54:17 PM
What's the stira.with anniversary and kids
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 06, 2012, 05:16:01 PM
What's the stira.with anniversary and kids
no stira, just like honeymoon is no stira. It is just less likely to be true if you are taking your kids along on you anniversary, just as you would prob leave your kids at home on your honeymoon.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aj26 on July 08, 2012, 02:16:54 PM
What exactly do you guys say when you talk to hotel. I emailed them asking for help with something "special." THey emailed back that they could arrange with flowers/chocolates/wine, etc and prices for each.
How do you get this stuff for free?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 06:09:41 PM
Anyone have advice on any particularly good hotel redemption values? I'm seeing the Waldorf Astoria for 25k + $95 but its in Versailles, and the base price isn't too high to being with (around $275).
I see the Le Méridien Etoilefor 4,800 + $90, but it's in an ugly modern style.
I don't have the Hyatt card (this vacation is coming as a surprise), and I don't think that signing up tomorrow would give me enough time to receive the free nights and confirm them by early August.
I see a few Wyndham properties, but haven't looked at them yet.

And I will hope that PointsBreaks has a pleasant surprise, but I can't count on that.

So, any advice?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2012, 06:13:56 PM
I don't have the Hyatt card (this vacation is coming as a surprise), and I don't think that signing up tomorrow would give me enough time to receive the free nights and confirm them by early August.
-1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
-1
Sign up tomorrow, fight them the day after, and the nights will post once i do first spend, or even beforehand?
And how do I know they'll have award availability? Any way to chk?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on July 08, 2012, 06:38:27 PM
Sign up tomorrow, fight them the day after, and the nights will post once i do first spend, or even beforehand?
And how do I know they'll have award availability? Any way to chk?


If a standard room is available at the PH  of your choice, you should be able to get it . Remember standard room might be queen size or twin beds , like for example at PH PARIS
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 06:40:19 PM

If a standard room is available at the PH  of your choice, you should be able to get it . Remember standard room might be queen size or twin beds , like for example at PH PARIS
And if I'm on Diamond trial when I sign up, it's a crapshoot if suites will be available?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2012, 06:42:31 PM
If there is a Park Twin/Queen/King or Park Suite Twin/Queen/King for sale you can get it for points/awards.
As a DIA you can also hold it under points even if you don't have the points yet and then attempt to switch it from points to award nights.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Moishy36 on July 11, 2012, 06:08:48 PM
I just got back from Paris - I went for a few days while on a trip to London.  I will try to sum up the best I could hopefully this will help

Hotel:
The PHP and the Regency Madeleine  were completely sold out (for award nights that is) which left me with the Regency CDG.
If anyone ends up at this hotel here are some tips.
In CDG finding the hotel shuttle is a complete nightmare - after running around the airport we (my wife and I) were finally given detailed instructions: It is in Terminal 2 at the TGV-SNCF station. When we arrived  the hotel shuttle pulled up as we got there. The van had room for 8 PAX and 7 seats were occupied, I asked him when is the next shuttle to which he said 45mins. After going back and forth with this guy he adamantly told me 45mins and that was it - if I wanted he would take my wife and I could take a taxi or wait for the next one. I called the Hotel straight away and demanded an explanation to which they were very apologetic and sent us our very own van :)

the shuttle runs from:
6:00 am  – 10:00 am every 15 minutes
10:00 am – 5:00 pm every 45 minutes
5:00 pm   – 10:00 pm every 15 minutes
10:00 pm – 11:45 pm every 45 minutes
more can be found on hyatts website (http://paris.charlesdegaulle.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels-paris-charlesdegaulle/news-details.jsp?newsId=46701563) (shouldve checked this before)

the room was ok nothing special - i was surprised that they dont even offer free water. They have a spa and fitness center which is open from 5am - 11pm daily.

Getting in to Town:
first time we went on the roissybus (as per dans advice) it is 10euro - coming from the hotel we picked it up at the Roissypôle (bus station) it circles all the terminals before going straight into town. Can take an hour or more.

another alternative is (also applies to arriving PAX): you can take the RER train (there is a shuttle from the airport) which has an express that has 1 stop to Gard du Nord which you can join the metro, or 2 stops to Chatelet Les Halles where you can get more lines on the metro. Otherwise take the regular service which takes about 30-40mins into town. Not recommended if you have a lot of luggage or a stroller. The cost for this is 9euro.

We took the metro everywhere. We bought daily tickets which cost around 6euro if your doing less traveling its probably better getting the book of tickets.

About places to go: much has been said on this topic already, although to mention: if your going to the Louvre by metro, get off at Concorde (on the 1 line) and walk to the Louvre - it has very nice royal gardens (we were running late and couldn't do this - this was a recommendation from a Lubavitcher we bumped into).
The Rebbes Shul - the exact address is 17 Rue de Rosier its in the Pletzel on the second floor - it is usually open (if the front door is locked ring any bell and once upstairs the shul should be open) if it isn't open, the pizza store right under has the key.


Restaurants:

Ill Conte - food was ok, for desert I got a meringue ice cream (cant remember what it was called) and it was amazing
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9736.JPG)

Tibs 19
food was alright - we sat outside, beware because there are alot of smokers outside. I didn't think it was that great, I ordered an onion soup and a tuna sandwich. The onion soup was way too salty and the tuna sandwich (which comes on toasted bread) came oddly enough with a sliced orange on top
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9755.JPG)
for desert (after tibs 19) we went to La Marina for that 'Farandole' that has everyone raving - well it was all worth it. Simply AMAZING. heres a picture:
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9759.JPG)
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9760.JPG)

Doloren Cafe - 45 Avenue Friedland
this cafe is meaty and is right off champs elysees its actualy on the street that the 'arc de triumph is on. If your coming up champs elysees then at the arc make a right and its on the right hand side half a block in.
the food was not that great but not that bad - they served a burger with a sunny side up egg on top - i found this very weird.
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9909.JPG)

Korcarz:
food was terrible and tasteless.
I ordered a panini which was half done.
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9945.JPG)

We went to both Chocolate stores 'Ardelys' and Damyel‘s - both amazing
Ardelys:
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9761.JPG)

French Macarons at Damyel‘s:
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9771.JPG)

Truffles at Damyel‘s:
(http://moishylew.com/downloads/IMG_9769.JPG)

one more thing, while we were there my wifes cousin who lives there said that pareve sorbets from haagen dazs are kosher - although I can not confirm this.

another website that I haven't seen mentioned here is: http://kosher.online.fr/kosher/tips.html (http://kosher.online.fr/kosher/tips.html) - useful for hechsherim etc

anyways I hope this helps out a bit. I benefited a lot from DDF on our trip, so here is my contribution.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 06:59:59 PM
Great pics! What camera do you use?
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 11, 2012, 08:14:42 PM
Great pics! What camera do you use?

+1. Great report too!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Moishy36 on July 11, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
Great pics! What camera do you use?
Thanks! these were taken with a canon 60D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 11, 2012, 09:23:37 PM
ONE of the reasons the shots stand out to you all is only because there is no flash. Most people could get better shots out if their point and shoots if they just knew how to use them better.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
ONE of the reasons the shots stand out to you all is only because there is no flash. Most people could get better shots out if their point and shoots if they just knew how to use them better.

These pics are better than just not using one's flash... Definitely has to do with the cam.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 11, 2012, 10:59:41 PM
These pics are better than just not using one's flash... Definitely has to do with the cam.

Yes, hence the stress on "ONE of the reasons" I just didn't want people to see which camera he was using and brush it off to that. People can get nicer shots on the cameras they have right now.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 12, 2012, 02:58:48 AM
ONE of the reasons the shots stand out to you all is only because there is no flash. Most people could get better shots out if their point and shoots if they just knew how to use them better.

Thing is that if you shoot in low light with a P&S without flash, your results won't come close to an SLR, especially one with a decent lens. So unless you're using a high-end P&S, and know what you're doing, your images won't come close.

Thanks! these were taken with a canon 60D

Lens?

ETA: Just notice that you're a (semi?) pro photographer. You have some nice work. I particularly like your shots by the pond ;)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on July 12, 2012, 09:04:04 AM
Thing is that if you shoot in low light with a P&S without flash, your results won't come close to an SLR, especially one with a decent lens. So unless you're using a high-end P&S, and know what you're doing, your images won't come close.

Lens?

ETA: Just notice that you're a (semi?) pro photographer. You have some nice work. I particularly like your shots by the pond ;)

True but if you play around with the settings most people would get shots they are much happier with on their point and shoot.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Moishy36 on July 12, 2012, 10:25:02 AM
Thing is that if you shoot in low light with a P&S without flash, your results won't come close to an SLR, especially one with a decent lens. So unless you're using a high-end P&S, and know what you're doing, your images won't come close.
It all has to do with the sensor size. A p&s sensor is significantly smaller than a DSLR and this affects the pictures big time. acquiring the 'SLR' look with a p&s is quite difficult.

Lens?

ETA: Just notice that you're a (semi?) pro photographer. You have some nice work. I particularly like your shots by the pond ;)

these were shot with the canon 24-70mm L lens - quite bulky for traveling.
Yes. Thank you :)

True but if you play around with the settings most people would get shots they are much happier with on their point and shoot.
happier that they have less to carry around :)
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 12, 2012, 10:30:40 AM
Thing is that if you shoot in low light with a P&S without flash, your results won't come close to an SLR, especially one with a decent lens. So unless you're using a high-end P&S, and know what you're doing, your images won't come close.

+1, messing with the settings or not, you're not going to get photos like the ones here with a standard P&S.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 12, 2012, 11:13:28 AM
these were shot with the canon 24-70mm L lens - quite bulky for traveling.

Do you lug that around on all your trips?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 12, 2012, 11:29:14 AM
Do you lug that around on all your trips?

Even if not, it'd be a big missed opportunity to not bring it to MLE (as you can tell).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Moishy36 on July 12, 2012, 11:50:37 AM
Do you lug that around on all your trips?

I do. Although most times i opt for a smaller lens when traveling out and about and leaving the big one at the hotel.
we also have a p&s if i dont feel like lugging the big guy
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on July 27, 2012, 02:51:20 PM
Trip report: Special thanks to Dan, AJK, and Ergel for all your help in planning this trip.

Wednesday evening flight – United to CDG coach. We landed and took the Roissy “Wa-see” bus from Charles de Gaulle to the Opera metro station.

Stayed at Park Hyatt for four nights in an upgraded room with Chase points and two free nights from opening the Hyatt CC card (there were no suites available on award booking.) Daily breakfast for diamond members as mentioned was orange juice, coffee, and pastries from Korcarz. (On Monday morning, we asked for eggs and salad, and they gave it to us from Korcarz as well.)

Thursday: We took a tour of the Pompidou which is this wacky building with the pipes on the outside which was pretty interesting. We then went to the Jewish museum but it was closed. Went to Pitzman's for food which was OK.
Back to the hotel for some sleep and we ate dinner in our room. Then I went to daven at Beth El mincha and maariv.

Friday morning we went to the Eiffel Tower. Then we went shopping for some Shabbos food and ate lunch at Korcarz. After that, we went to the Holocaust Museum. We then walked up and down the Galleries shopping area for souvenirs.

Friday night: As it was Gimmel Tammuz, the main rav was in NY so his brother in law took over for him. (His English was ok and with my wife’s broken French we communicated well.)
 We prearranged meals at Chabbad of Champs Elyseees. We took a taxi from the hotel to the shul. Mincha was at 8:30. We then waited to light candles at Plag. After maariv, there was a Kiddush downstairs and a delicious meal upstairs for about fifty people. We left and on the way back to the hotel, we got to see the eleven p.m. light show of the Eiffel Tower. It was really nice!
Shabbos morning, we were at Chabbad again. In the afternoon, we walked through the Tulliries Gardens  and got to see the Louvre from outside.
For mincha at 9:00 p.m., we walked to the Great Synagogue but the guards told us that they were not Davening there and directed us to a shul nearby. Motzaei Shabbos the earliest was at 11:05! It was a real long day.

Sunday morning we had a 9:15 Segway Tour. It was great and a lot of fun even in the rain! We then had lunch in Ill Pillazio.
 We took the train to the Versailles Palace. It was very interesting. We did not walk around the gardens because of the rain.

Back to the hotel to freshen up. We then went to eat in Inte Caffe. The food was very tasty.
Monday morning we quickly ran to the Musee de l'Orangee. We checked out and took the Roissy bus to CDG for our flight to Zurich.
Zurich trip report:
Inter Europe flights in Business Class are nothing special. The middle seat is kept empty. The kosher food from Schalom’s was ok. It was a short flight of only an hour.

Landed in ZRH. Went to buy train tickets for the city and for our trip the next day to Lucerne. We arrived at the Park Hyatt in Zurich, and used our second two free nights in a gorgeous suite.
We ate supper in Fine by Fine.

Tuesday: Kosher breakfast from the hotel was free for diamond members. It was airline food plus a kosher bottle of champagne and delicious Swiss chocolates.

We took lunch with us from Books and Bagels. Then we went with the trains to Lucerne and up Mount Pilatus with the cogwheel. The view was amazing as it was a pretty clear day. Down we went with the cable cars. I would recommend it that way because you can get a car for yourself. The ride down is a lot of fun!

Wednesday morning: Kosher breakfast again from hotel.
We took a taxi to the airport for our flight back with a stop in Frankfurt.
 First class lounge in ZRH is ok. When the plane landed in FRA, there was a man holding a sign directing all First Class passengers to a waiting Mercedes van, and drove us straight to the First Class lounge. The other passengers had to cram onto waiting buses to be driven the 15 minute ride to the terminals.

 We did not get to go to the First Class terminal as the connection was less than two hours. The kosher food that I ordered for the lounge through Lufthansa did not make it there. In the lounge, we received new First Class boarding passes with a time of when our driver would drive us straight to the plane.
We were driven this time in a small fancy car to the plane- a Boeing 747.

LH First is amazing. You have a recliner and a full separate bed, bose headphones, pajamas, etc.  There were only two other people in First. Kosher food was ok. All in all, we had a really great vacation for almost no money out of pocket.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 27, 2012, 06:34:20 PM
Great TR!

How far in advance did you book the LH F ticket?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on July 29, 2012, 02:45:57 PM
Great TR!

How far in advance did you book the LH F ticket?
About six weeks before the trip, the whole trip was  booked with through United.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 29, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
Awesome; generally LH F doesn't consistently open up until about 2 weeks before travel date.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on July 30, 2012, 12:08:27 PM
My Amex platinum concierge just emailed me that she can't make me reservations at Darjeeling because there dining room is closed for the summer.
Does anyone know anything about this? Can I order to go and eat in my hotel, is there kitchen open?
Did she make this up? (I wish)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 30, 2012, 12:26:29 PM
Many kosher places in Europe close down after 9 of Av (August usually) when they go on their vacation. We ran into this problem in Italy once.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 05, 2012, 04:15:20 PM
Paris TR 7/31-8/2

I had 2 Hyatt suite nights expiring at the end of August, and after hearing all about the Park Hyatt Paris from everyone’s trip-reports, I decided to book my nights there with my wife and kids.

One of the (not so many?) perks of living in London is the Eurostar train which takes you from the center of London to the center of Paris in 2 hours and 20 minutes. I snagged two tickets for £79 each (~$120). Kids under 4 ride free in lap, and one can usually find an empty seat to put them in.

After doing some research, I decided to rent a car as opposed to taking public transportation. I rented a small automatic car from National at Gare-du-Nord. Driving in Paris is not for the faint-hearted, and if you’re not travelling with small children, I wouldn’t recommend it. Personally, I enjoy trying out driving in different countries, so I didn’t mind it. Parking is VERY difficult to find in most of Paris, so thank goodness for the free Valet parking at the PHP.

There isn’t much I could add about the PHP that hasn’t been mentioned before. The service is amazing and very personal, the concierge were knowledgeable and very helpful, and the location is great. We were upgraded to an Executive Suite, which is basically two interconnecting rooms, with one being the bedroom, and one a living room. They provided two cots for our kids, which were placed in the living room. We also had an impromptu meet-up (DO?) with DrDanny (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17387.msg273030#msg273030) in the lobby.


Day 1

We checked in to the hotel at around noon. We then drove to Pitzman for lunch. They have delicious falafel and very good pizza. I took the one with tuna, mushrooms and a sunny-side-up egg. The plain pizza was better.
We continued to Versailles, which was a quick and easy drive with no traffic. Magnificent palace, and beautiful gardens.

When we returned, we drove to the Eiffel Tower. I found free parking (after 7pm) on a side street, right next to the tower. We had originally wanted to ride up to the top, but due to a technical issue that’s been going on, there was only one working elevator, and online tickets were sold out for a few months. When we got there, there was crazy long line to buy tickets, so we scratched that plan. Instead we hung around in the park there and took pictures.

We were very tired the first night, so we stopped at Il Palazzo on the way back to the hotel (5 min drive), and bought food to take out. Food was good and fresh. We had 2 kinds of pasta, and baked salmon.

Day 2

We went to Disneyland, which was also a quick and easy drive. Not much to say about it, it’s Disneyland, and the kids loved it. We took along sandwiches and some pastries from Korcarz for lunch.
When we returned, we stopped at Le Shine for supper. Luckily, I found parking right outside. The food was great. We had sushi, eggrolls, some sweet chicken, and spicy chicken, and fried rice. They have delicious sorbets too. They don’t have an English menu, but thankfully there was an asian (Freddie Wong lookalike) waiter that told us what everything was.

After that, we stopped at the Trocadéro for a nighttime view of the tower. We missed the light show by a minute, but got some nice shots.

Day 3

We took the open-top bus tour around Paris. We stopped at the Louvre, but couldn’t spend too much time there, because the kids weren’t too interested in art. We then just rode around Paris, taking in all the sights.

After that, we returned to the hotel to pick up our car and luggage.We stopped again by the Pletzel to pick up some stuff, and then made our way to the 19th arrondissement for the Tibs/La Marina combo everyone talks about. On our way though, we hit some crazy construction traffic with no way out. We ended up getting there very late and we decided to do takeout, and eat in the car on the way to the station.
Although Tibs are open all day, their kitchen is closed in the afternoon hours, so we took food from La Marina which wasn’t bad. They also prepared us a “Farandole” to go, which was a first for them (or so they said). We also picked up some chocolate from Damyel (which I haven’t yet gotten around to tasting). Ardely’s were closed.

We made it back to the station with minutes to spare, and b”h there were some empty seats on the train, so the kids (and us) got to rest a little...

Executive Suite Living Room
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0246.jpg)

That, or $37.50
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0488.jpg)

Versailles
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0279.jpg)

Eiffel Tower by day
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0915copy.jpg)

Le Shine
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/IMG_0046.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/IMG_0049.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/IMG_0050.jpg)

Eiffel Tower at night
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0737copy.jpg)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0748.jpg)

Crowds trying to get a picture of the Mona Lisa
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0804.jpg)

Watching the Olympics in the middle of town...
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/DSC_0848.jpg)

Tefillin in the Pletzel
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/IMG_0060.jpg)

Farandole to go...
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n581/csrl8800/Paris/IMG_0070.jpg)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 05, 2012, 08:17:31 PM
Like the TR, but *love* the pic of the black + white/color pic of the ET.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: creditor on August 05, 2012, 09:07:06 PM
Like the TR, but *love* the pic of the black + white/color pic of the ET.
+1 how did you do that ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yossi. on August 05, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
lol that's definitely not one of those canon elph cameras :)
Jokes aside, even on the smaller compact cameras you can choose to have certain colors pop out of the black and white... on my elph 300 i believe i have blue and green...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 06, 2012, 03:47:55 AM
Like the TR, but *love* the pic of the black + white/color pic of the ET.

Thanks.

+1 how did you do that ?

Photoshop :D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on August 06, 2012, 08:57:20 AM
BTW @Dan you should start taking a commission from the Park Hyatt  as I was leaving the hotel this morning I met 3 couples in a half hour all after about it here plus i cham'l last week If i would have spent more time in the lobby we probably could have had a minyan
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Moishy36 on August 06, 2012, 09:53:54 AM
Great Report! and nice shots :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on August 06, 2012, 09:56:07 AM
BTW @Dan you should start taking a commission from the Park Hyatt  as I was leaving the hotel this morning I met 3 couples in a half hour all after about it here plus i cham'l last week If i would have spent more time in the lobby we probably could have had a minyan
A commission on all the FREE nights? ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2012, 06:42:33 PM
BTW @Dan you should start taking a commission from the Park Hyatt  as I was leaving the hotel this morning I met 3 couples in a half hour all after about it here plus i cham'l last week If i would have spent more time in the lobby we probably could have had a minyan
Lol...I gotta stop spillin the beans on these places already.
Title: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: elizmm on August 06, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
So thanx to mickeyg and dan I booked tix for my family to Israel, the return flight stops in paris at approx 10am and departs approx 8pm, I am not familiar with Paris, do not know how long it takes to leave and return to the airport, also I have small children with me. is it worth leaving the airport for a bit? and What to do (food nearby?)
Title: Re: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: Ergel on August 06, 2012, 08:45:16 PM
So thanx to mickeyg and dan I booked tix for my family to Israel, the return flight stops in paris at approx 10am and departs approx 8pm, I am not familiar with Paris, do not know how long it takes to leave and return to the airport, also I have small children with me. is it worth leaving the airport for a bit? and What to do (food nearby?)
That's a ten hour stopover. Definitely enough time to go into the city and see the main sites and grab a meal
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: elizmm on August 06, 2012, 08:49:50 PM
Sorry I meant departure at 5pm, is that still enough time
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: miamiles on August 06, 2012, 09:47:14 PM
how long does it take to go thru customs at france airport.  i also have the 9am landing...and 5 pm departure.  maybe check out the eifel tower or pletzel
Title: Re: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: Ergel on August 06, 2012, 10:41:20 PM
Sorry I meant departure at 5pm, is that still enough time
I think so. I cleared customs very quickly there. Maybe hire a driver, considering your time constraints and traveling with young children
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: DH Data Recovery on August 06, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
I did that - hired a taxi had enough time to eat, see tower, arc de triumph, the louvre and many other sites in under 7 hrs
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: DH Data Recovery on August 06, 2012, 10:57:10 PM
clearing customs for us citizens take a little longer than eu citizens though ime
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: elizmm on August 06, 2012, 11:04:31 PM
I did that - hired a taxi had enough time to eat, see tower, arc de triumph, the louvre and many other sites in under 7 hrs
ok great i guess we can discuss ur experience when I pick up my drives from you :)
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: DH Data Recovery on August 06, 2012, 11:05:51 PM
yup:)
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: Moishy36 on August 06, 2012, 11:37:15 PM
So thanx to mickeyg and dan I booked tix for my family to Israel, the return flight stops in paris at approx 10am and departs approx 8pm, I am not familiar with Paris, do not know how long it takes to leave and return to the airport, also I have small children with me. is it worth leaving the airport for a bit? and What to do (food nearby?)

a lot of useful notes here
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1573.0
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: txtmax4 on August 07, 2012, 01:04:03 AM
In PAR I got 4 hs :( stuck in the middle...
In ZRH I got almost 5 hs... I know some people there so maybe they will come visit me at the airport, not sure it's very safe to leave.
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: MosheP on August 07, 2012, 09:31:16 AM
In PAR I got 4 hs :( stuck in the middle...
In ZRH I got almost 5 hs... I know some people there so maybe they will come visit me at the airport, not sure it's very safe to leave.

I have the same stopovers. I have been to Paris many times, so not so important to me. my question is for Zurich, I am there from 8 am to 1 pm. Is 5 hours enough time to race to the city see something, perhaps grab a bite and get back in time?
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: txtmax4 on August 07, 2012, 11:56:12 AM
I have the same stopovers. I have been to Paris many times, so not so important to me. my question is for Zurich, I am there from 8 am to 1 pm. Is 5 hours enough time to race to the city see something, perhaps grab a bite and get back in time?
Paging chuchem..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on August 07, 2012, 12:48:47 PM
Lol...I gotta stop spillin the beans on these places already.
+1. You've completely destroyed the allure of traveling to these properties :-)
Title: Re: 7 Hour Stopover in Paris - Worth leaving airport?
Post by: Moishy36 on August 07, 2012, 01:21:39 PM
In PAR I got 4 hs :( stuck in the middle...
In ZRH I got almost 5 hs... I know some people there so maybe they will come visit me at the airport, not sure it's very safe to leave.

I have the same stopovers. I have been to Paris many times, so not so important to me. my question is for Zurich, I am there from 8 am to 1 pm. Is 5 hours enough time to race to the city see something, perhaps grab a bite and get back in time?

in paris - its kinda pushing it a bit time wise....although if you want to experience some french lifestyle - right next to the airport is a nice little town called roissy
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 10, 2012, 04:01:22 PM
We also picked up some chocolate from Damyel (which I haven’t yet gotten around to tasting).

Update- They are very good, but Symphony Chocolates from London taste exactly the same, and they can be bought in a couple of chocolate/candy stores in NY as well (I think Oh Nuts stock them...).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 10, 2012, 04:03:41 PM
Parve chocolate is parve chocolate...
You'll just have to go back for Ardely's.  Or go to MIA for Schakolad.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 10, 2012, 04:09:19 PM
Parve chocolate is parve chocolate...

-1. Most of the kosher companies can't get it right.

Or go to MIA for Schakolad.

Def on the list...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Moishy36 on August 10, 2012, 05:57:24 PM
Parve chocolate is parve chocolate...
You'll just have to go back for Ardely's.  Or go to MIA for Schakolad.
Damyel's chocolate is quite unique...one of the best kosher parve chocolates ive had - we just got another 2 boxes shipped from france :)
Ardely's wasnt as good as i expected - the best kosher dairy chocolate has to be le chocolat in woodburne ny

in london you can get amazing chocolate mints - bendicks (http://"http://www.bendicks.co.uk/") - though not all of them are kosher. (there is a London Beis Din list that has which specific ones are kosher)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 10, 2012, 05:58:53 PM
the best kosher dairy chocolate has to be le chocolat in woodburne ny
Can't touch Schakolad IMHO.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 10, 2012, 06:13:16 PM
Damyel's chocolate is quite unique...one of the best kosher parve chocolates ive had - we just got another 2 boxes shipped from france :)

Have you ever had symphony?

in london you can get amazing chocolate mints - bendicks (http://"http://www.bendicks.co.uk/") - though not all of them are kosher. (there is a London Beis Din list that has which specific ones are kosher)

Gotta try those. How do they compare to After Eight mints (http://www.aftereight.co.uk/home/) (that used to be KLBD Parve)?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Moishy36 on August 10, 2012, 07:13:39 PM
Gotta try those. How do they compare to After Eight mints (http://www.aftereight.co.uk/home/) (that used to be KLBD Parve)?

quite the same idea just a lot more variety
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NateOren on August 19, 2012, 05:50:13 PM
Can't touch Schakolad IMHO.
There's this new one called Golden Delices. I told the lady in the store "Listen, if those are fruit chocolates, please count me out". As in general, I don't eat those horrible crown looking chocolates with cherry filing. She said "Oh, you want taste?", it was a mango one, and HOLY LORD. It was something amazing. There was also others. The Pistachio one was incredible. It's Cholov Yisroel but a pain to get to.

If you know someone coming in from Paris and they'll bring you chocolate, go for this one, you will thank me...
http://www.chocolatier-golden-delices.com/maitre-chocolatier-casher-Paris-19.html

Just FYI, I also had 2+ kilo of the others before I made the trek here. Demyel's is OK. Aredely's is pretty good, especially, the little corn looking chocolate. But really, nothing like Golden Delices.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: river3950 on August 21, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
Does anyone know of any kosher restaurants that are open on Sat night? Specifically Sept 1?

Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yossi. on August 21, 2012, 02:49:06 PM
Does anyone know of any kosher restaurants that are open on Sat night? Specifically Sept 1?

Thanks

adding a specific neighborhood you are looking into might help us help u... Even if shabbos is over at ~9:30pm u will have a lot of restaurants open IME, in jewish neighborhood at least...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: river3950 on August 22, 2012, 07:31:46 AM
Sorry wasn't clear before.. looking for a kosher restaurant that is open Sat nite near the vicinity of the Tuileries Garden (but to be honest we can take a taxi to another area if it is worthwhile).

Thanks again...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on August 22, 2012, 12:14:05 PM
Sorry wasn't clear before.. looking for a kosher restaurant that is open Sat nite near the vicinity of the Tuileries Garden (but to be honest we can take a taxi to another area if it is worthwhile).

Thanks again...

See if Il Palazzo is open. Its only about a 10-15 minute walk from Place Vendome.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 22, 2012, 02:21:16 PM
Will La Marina be open Motzei Shabbos in the beginning of September?

Any kosher gelatto places worth going to in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 22, 2012, 02:57:08 PM
Will La Marina be open Motzei Shabbos in the beginning of September?


Was open late last November, FWIW.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 22, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
Was open late last November, FWIW.
And in mid-May.
Had to cab it back to the PHP though as subways were closed.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 22, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
And in mid-May.
Had to cab it back to the PHP though as subways were closed.

We left early enough to catch the subway back (based on your TR ;) )
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 22, 2012, 03:24:05 PM
We left early enough to catch the subway back (based on your TR ;) )
Nice.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 22, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
And in mid-May.
Had to cab it back to the PHP though as subways were closed.

Really? It seems like the Metro stops running at 2:15 am on Motzei Shabbos...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on August 22, 2012, 03:37:24 PM
i think thats only the 1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 22, 2012, 03:39:36 PM
Really? It seems like the Metro stops running at 2:15 am on Motzei Shabbos...

If so, we must have left before 215am. What's the problem?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 22, 2012, 03:47:53 PM
Sorry, quoted the wrong post - was surprised Dan had to cab back if subway stopped at 2:15...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 22, 2012, 04:03:06 PM
1. Restaurant service in Paris is slow.
2. Shabbos in May in Paris ends at ~10:40pm and we waited in the shul on Champs-Elysees for havdala.
3. 2:15 is when the metro closes on weekends, but you need to connect trains from the 19th to the PHP and the last connecting train may leave well before the metro closes.  Indeed that's what happened to us-we missed the last connecting train.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on August 22, 2012, 08:58:02 PM
And in mid-May.
Had to cab it back to the PHP though as subways were closed.

Mid May ? I was there mid May for the weekend ! Did you see Marion Cotillard there then ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 22, 2012, 09:01:52 PM
Mid May ? I was there mid May for the weekend ! Did you see Marion Cotillard there then ?
I didn't say this past mid-May. It was 2010.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on August 22, 2012, 09:08:37 PM
I didn't say this past mid-May. It was 2010.

Gotcha  :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 23, 2012, 12:40:40 AM
1. Restaurant service in Paris is slow.
2. Shabbos in May in Paris ends at ~10:40pm and we waited in the shul on Champs-Elysees for havdala.
3. 2:15 is when the metro closes on weekends, but you need to connect trains from the 19th to the PHP and the last connecting train may leave well before the metro closes.  Indeed that's what happened to us-we missed the last connecting train.

Got it!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 24, 2012, 03:20:48 PM
Hey everyone,

I'm going to be in Paris with my wife for 4 days + Shabbos before RH.  Wanted to run my itinerary by everyone and see if I'm missing anything!

Land Tues. Morning CDG 6:20am
-Drop bags off at hotel
-1:00pm Sandeman's Paris Tour
-Eiffel tower at night (planned trip too late to get tix online, expecting a long wait in line but gotta hit up the Eiffel Tower if you're going to Paris)

Wednesday (w/ 2 day Museum Pass)
-Versailles
-Possible River Cruise on the Seine at night

Thursday (w/ 2 day Museum Pass)
-Louve
-Notre-Dame Cathedral
-Musee d'Orsay (closes Thurs 9:45 pm)
-Arc de Triomphe  (closes 11:00pm)

Friday
-Marais tour starting at 11:00 am
-Holocaust Museum (10am to 6pm)
-Museum of Jewish Art and History (11am to 6pm, last tickets at 5:15pm)
-Mincha at Chabad Champs Elysses at 7:30pm
-walk back to hotel down Champs Elysees, ~ 1 hr 15 min

Shabbos
-Daven in rue Pavee Shul in the Marais
-Go to La Marina on motzei shabbos for a Farandole

Sunday
-Quick visit to Bastille open market
-Flight out of ORLY at 1 pm
_______________________________________

Any thoughts? Am I missing anything?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 24, 2012, 03:22:23 PM
Looks like a good itin to me, but I highly recommend the segway tour...
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 24, 2012, 03:36:36 PM
Looks like a good itin to me, but I highly recommend the segway tour...
Especially with the ergel discount special.

Itinerary seems a little much, but I guess you (or more likely your wife) will gague that as you go along.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 24, 2012, 03:38:11 PM
Ergel - how can I plan it without your discount?! :)

Can you PM me with details?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 24, 2012, 03:54:55 PM
I'm thinking of heading with a friend on a trip to Paris next week from Sun-Thurs.
Basically giving us Monday afternoon to Thursday morning after travelling time is taken into account.
That should be enough time to see some sites, have a few nice meals and enjoy, yes?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 24, 2012, 04:29:31 PM
So, what, you'd have like three days there? That seem a bit on the shorter side, especially if you want to do it right...
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 24, 2012, 04:34:38 PM
So, what, you'd have like three days there? That seem a bit on the shorter side, especially if you want to do it right...
Eh. I don't like starting in cities that long. I think you're fine. We got in Monday early morning and left Wednesday night. Was plenty of time IMO. Depends how you like to travel.
However, would I do a Trans Atlantic flight for three days? Probably not. If you are going somewhere after, seems perfect to me
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 24, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
I'm thinking of heading with a friend on a trip to Paris next week from Sun-Thurs.
Basically giving us Monday afternoon to Thursday morning after travelling time is taken into account.
That should be enough time to see some sites, have a few nice meals and enjoy, yes?

Obviously it would just be a more relaxed chilled out trip. I know it wouldn't make a dent into seeing what Paris has to offer.
Though I see nothing wrong with having a relaxed trip like that sometimes. Especially knowing I'll go back.

Was just going to take advantage of a direct Delta flight opening in Business at the lowest tier.

 Anyways, in the end we decided to keep things simple and we're heading to Napa/Sonoma.
Oh well!!

Should be fun.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on August 28, 2012, 05:37:16 PM
I will be stopping in Paris for 12 hours from 10-30am to 10-30 pm on my way to Israel. Any advice on must do's in that short amount of time ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 28, 2012, 06:09:30 PM
Segway Tour.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on August 28, 2012, 06:42:57 PM
Segway Tour.
+1 I highly recommend it
PM for a discount code
HT ergel
It's at 2 pm
Citysegwaytours.com/Paris
or something like that
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LA2NYC on August 28, 2012, 08:23:01 PM
How many people are usually signed up for the 2pm tour?
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on August 28, 2012, 08:24:12 PM
How many people are usually signed up for the 2pm tour?
I think in August all their tours fill up
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on August 28, 2012, 09:24:53 PM
When I was there (3 Weeks ago) they were sending every 5-8 people out with a separate guide
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: runnergirl on October 03, 2012, 08:29:10 PM
Staying at the Park Hyatt in Paris and don't have Hyatt Diamond status so no free breakfast for me  :-[
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: runnergirl on October 03, 2012, 08:29:53 PM
can anyone recommend a kosher place to eat breakfast close to the hotel?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mtl18 on October 28, 2012, 11:34:49 AM
I'll be arriving in Paris on a Tuesday at about 4pm (after a week stint in Italy). I'm flying home on Sunday at 10 am. I'm trying to figure out what to do for shabbos. I'm travelling solo and am booked at Hotel Touring for Tue-Fri. I do not know anybody in Paris, and am also having trouble finding a budget hotel available for shabbos and located nearby the chabad which has shabbos meals for ($$). An interesting option came up. There are people I could stay by for Shabbos in London. I could take the 9pm eurostar thursday night to London, tour a bit on the short friday and spend shabbos in london. Motzei shabbos ill return to Paris. The eurostar is $200RT.
However, this leaves me with only 2 days in Paris :( Will I get a taste of the city in only 2 days or is that too short? Anybody know of any other options for Shabbos in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deals on October 28, 2012, 12:00:09 PM
I'll be arriving in Paris on a Tuesday at about 4pm (after a week stint in Italy). I'm flying home on Sunday at 10 am. I'm trying to figure out what to do for shabbos. I'm travelling solo and am booked at Hotel Touring for Tue-Fri. I do not know anybody in Paris, and am also having trouble finding a budget hotel available for shabbos and located nearby the chabad which has shabbos meals for ($$). An interesting option came up. There are people I could stay by for Shabbos in London. I could take the 9pm eurostar thursday night to London, tour a bit on the short friday and spend shabbos in london. Motzei shabbos ill return to Paris. The eurostar is $200RT.
However, this leaves me with only 2 days in Paris :( Will I get a taste of the city in only 2 days or is that too short? Anybody know of any other options for Shabbos in Paris?

i would just do 2 days paris and go to london
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on October 29, 2012, 04:14:54 PM
I plan to send 3 girls to Paris for a birthday trip- It would be from a Sun-Thursday.
What's the weather like in February?
I've only been to Paris once for a couple days and just followed after my French friend/guide so I didn't really get a sense of where things are etc.

Will 3 girls in their 20s have an easy time getting around Paris by themselves?
Are there enough things to do close by since their trip will only end up being about 2.5 days after travel time.
Are there enough things to do indoor in case of bad weather?

And how far is kosher food? Easy to get to restaurants from Paris?

TIA
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on October 29, 2012, 04:38:58 PM
I plan to send 3 girls to Paris for a birthday trip- It would be from a Sun-Thursday.
What's the weather like in February?
I've only been to Paris once for a couple days and just followed after my French friend/guide so I didn't really get a sense of where things are etc.

Will 3 girls in their 20s have an easy time getting around Paris by themselves?
Are there enough things to do close by since their trip will only end up being about 2.5 days after travel time.
Are there enough things to do indoor in case of bad weather?

And how far is kosher food? Easy to get to restaurants from Paris?

TIA
Feb is the coldest month in Paris, and it gets dark by around 6:00 pm. the metro is very easy to use to get around or the 3 of them can split a cab ride I found taxies to be reasonably priced.

 You didn’t mention where they will be staying regarding how far is kosher food but there are tons of kosher food stores and restaurants all around Paris.

Regarding  what to do, most activities (museums) are indoors, except the segway tours of course which is a must if the weather is good.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on October 29, 2012, 05:05:28 PM
Thanks. They will Gd willing be staying at the Park Hyatt in Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on October 29, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
Thanks. They will Gd willing be staying at the Park Hyatt in Paris.
The hotel is in a great area and right near the metro, so kosher food is only a few stops away. Look thru this thread for the best locations to eat, and trip ideas.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on November 02, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
Will Park Hyatt Paris let me stay in a suite with 3 adults and one infant?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 02, 2012, 02:25:24 PM
Will Park Hyatt Paris let me stay in a suite with 3 adults and one infant?

I'm not 100% sure, but why walk in with a poster that says that?
Title: paris hotel recommendations
Post by: yhakak on November 10, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
hi everyone-
 question: i'm gong to be in Paris in December and i'm looking for a good hotel, close to a jewish area (9th, marais, etc.) with shuls, kosher restaurants/food stores, etc. - any recommendations? mid-level, not too expensive...i'm paying cash not points so that's not a problem...
The last few times i've been in Paris i've stayed at the Aida Opera but it's really going downhill, last time i was there i nearly ripped my foot open on an exposed nail, there was strange food left in the fridge, and i had to beg for a box of tissues, so not optimal...

any recommendations happily accepted..

thanks,
yair
Title: Re: paris hotel recommendations
Post by: Jkhein on November 10, 2012, 12:22:48 PM
Best would be to post here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1573.msg330602#new
(mods will move it anyways)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on November 12, 2012, 03:19:10 PM
anyone know a good website to book the train from paris to london?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 04, 2012, 07:46:55 AM
I have a 4hr 15min stopover in Cdg is it worth leaving the airport ?
If I can have 1 hr at 1 destination which should it be?
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 04, 2012, 09:48:16 AM
I have a 4hr 15min stopover in Cdg is it worth leaving the airport ?
If I can have 1 hr at 1 destination which should it be?
No
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 04, 2012, 10:16:08 AM
No
even just to go to the eiffel tower for 45-60 min ?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 04, 2012, 10:20:09 AM
even just to go to the eiffel tower for 45-60 min ?
Taxi or public transport?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sruly on December 04, 2012, 10:39:20 AM
Taxi or public transport?
What do you recommend ?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 04, 2012, 11:08:21 AM
What do you recommend ?
If you're willing to pay for a taxi then I would maybe do it. Too much running around otherwise. I guess go to Eiffel tower and arc de triumph
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 04, 2012, 12:54:06 PM
How can I check if the roissy bus or tran from Cdg gets close to my hotel?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on December 04, 2012, 01:13:16 PM
How can I check if the roissy bus or tran from Cdg gets close to my hotel?

e/mail the hotel
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 04, 2012, 01:14:29 PM
e/mail the hotel
+1
Where are you staying?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 04, 2012, 03:45:44 PM
e/mail the hotel
did yesterday, haven't gotten a response yet. Tx
+1
Where are you staying?
hotel residence Foch
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 04, 2012, 05:24:55 PM
~2 miles from roissy bus
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 05, 2012, 06:38:18 AM
Not easy to walk with two suitcases and a stroller, what would you recommend I do? Tx
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 05, 2012, 07:30:03 AM
Not easy impossible to walk with two suitcases and a stroller, what would you recommend I do? Tx
FTFY
One thing you must know about traveling is that no matter how much money you save here, certain things are expensive and those costs add up. Vacationing is supposed to be relaxing. Don't ruin it by cutting corners where you shouldn't. I learned this the hard way.
I recommend taking a cab, or figuring out how much a rental car would cost. You could use it round trio to the airport and Versailles.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 05, 2012, 10:32:19 AM
Ok tx
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on December 05, 2012, 12:14:40 PM
FTFY
One thing you must know about traveling is that no matter how much money you save here, certain things are expensive and those costs add up. Vacationing is supposed to be relaxing. Don't ruin it by cutting corners where you shouldn't. I learned this the hard way.
I recommend taking a cab, or figuring out how much a rental car would cost. You could use it round trio to the airport and Versailles.
+100
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 10, 2012, 03:54:38 PM
How do I get a SIM card for iPhone?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 09:03:29 PM
Shame there's no wiki for this post.

Here are my Paris trip notes:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7517

What stuff did you guys do that we missed our first time?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 23, 2012, 09:33:51 PM
You goin' back?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 09:45:04 PM
You goin' back?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11476.msg369582#msg369582
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 23, 2012, 09:47:47 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11476.msg369582#msg369582

Figured :P

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 09:48:48 PM
Now that ya' figured, who's got a quick tip or 2 for me?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 23, 2012, 09:49:56 PM
Now that ya' figured, who's got a quick tip or 2 for me?

One word. Segway.

Period.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 23, 2012, 10:04:40 PM
One word. Segway.

Period.
Discounts PM'd
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 10:06:20 PM
One word. Segway.

Period.
Looks like the main is is already booked up.
That's what I get for booking such a short trip on such short notice over the holidays :D

Any smaller segway places? Or good walking/bus/Seine River tours?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 23, 2012, 10:10:36 PM
Surprised php had availability
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Surprised php had availability
Neither PHP nor SQ was a walk in the park.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 23, 2012, 10:15:19 PM
Looks like the main is is already booked up.
That's what I get for booking such a short trip on such short notice over the holidays :D

Call em.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 23, 2012, 10:15:41 PM
Neither PHP nor SQ was a walk in the park.

PHP much easier than SQ.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 10:20:08 PM
Call em.
Will do.

PHP much easier than SQ.
You have no idea.

Anyway any walking/bus/Seine river tour recs?
Or other good ideas?

Restaurants that are cant miss?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
Anyone ever do the free walking tour?
http://www.newparistours.com/daily-tours/paris-free-tour.html
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 23, 2012, 10:46:21 PM
IIRC you missed Darjeeling.
Make sure you try the laffa stuffed with meat or something
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 23, 2012, 10:50:31 PM
IIRC you missed Darjeeling.
Make sure you try the laffa stuffed with meat or something
Great, what else is good from there?
Also need a couple more places.  Suggestions?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on December 23, 2012, 10:59:31 PM
Looks like the main is is already booked up.
That's what I get for booking such a short trip on such short notice over the holidays :D

Any smaller segway places? Or good walking/bus/Seine River tours?
IIRC they are the only one but call them they speak English and may be able to work something out
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 23, 2012, 11:30:19 PM
Great, what else is good from there?
Also need a couple more places.  Suggestions?
I had two other dishes, one was good(I think it was noodles with chicken or some other poultry)and one was lousy (I believe it was a mixed grill). Although I may have that backwards

Ate at some burger joint, Couldn't find anything else With hechsher we were looking For. Didn't understand menu at all. Accidentally ended up with pastrami burger (what I wanted) with a sunnyside up egg. Actually wasn't bad
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 23, 2012, 11:37:03 PM
Great, what else is good from there?
Also need a couple more places.  Suggestions?
check http://www.osmose-paris.com/ not sure if you hold of the hechsher. supposed to be crazy high-end.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2012, 08:14:31 AM
Segway tour is fully booked unless we want to show up and hope 2 people no show. 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2012, 08:19:23 AM
check http://www.osmose-paris.com/ not sure if you hold of the hechsher. supposed to be crazy high-end.
Has anyone looked into it? Is the meat glatt, etc?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Nobody else has gone on any tours besides for that one segway tour?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 24, 2012, 10:07:16 AM
Nobody else has gone on any tours besides for that one segway tour?
I assume almost everyone takes the Segway and one tour seems like more than enough. Although the guy who have the Segway tour seemed very knowledgable. Would have been fascinated to go on a tour he gives of the French revolution
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 24, 2012, 10:24:57 AM
Opera house with tour was interesting

Holocaust museum had an exhibit on the Eichmann trials when we were there. Very well done
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2012, 06:04:40 PM
Bummer, Darjeeling is closed for renovations :(

Anyone been to any other meateries besides Le Shine that they would recommend?
Not looking for Shwarma/Shnitzel.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 24, 2012, 06:22:39 PM
Has anyone looked into it? Is the meat glatt, etc?
"Osmose is a kosher restaurant under the supervision of the Beth Din of Paris."
http://www.123cacher.com/en/kosher_restaurant/osmose.html
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2012, 06:59:08 PM
Beth Din of Paris is typically not glatt meat AFAIK
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on December 24, 2012, 08:29:22 PM
Beth Din of Paris is typically not glatt meat AFAIK
Le CHATEAUBRIAND
www.123cacher.com/en/kosher_restaurant/chateaubriand.html
Is Glatt some nights of the week (there's a Chabad Bochur who used to go to Morris town that works there you can call and ask him) Its French cuisine you can get Fois Gras there
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 24, 2012, 08:39:02 PM
Heard good things about that place.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yehuda S on December 24, 2012, 08:40:18 PM
Hey Dan I read all about the Paris catacombs. It's supposed to be really amazing! Check it out.

And good luck with your flights I hear there are some storm related delays.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on December 24, 2012, 08:49:03 PM
Heard good things about that place.
Been there it's amazing it's a shame they don't have restaurant.com certs cause they are expensive
I actually went on a non glatt night so I ordered duck and lamb
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 24, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
If I went back, I'd def check it out and their fois gras.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on December 25, 2012, 02:03:37 AM
If I went back, I'd def check it out and their fois gras.

Brasserie De Belvedere is also good, AFAIK it's BDP, though, so not glatt (unless there is some special arrangement i'm not aware of).

In terms of attractions, the catacombs are amazing but creepy. If you've never been to the Musee D'Orsay you should go, it's one of the best art museums in the world. Finally, if it's sunny skip the Eiffel tower and go to the Tour Montparnasse instead, the view is better...

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 25, 2012, 02:38:26 AM
Bummer, Darjeeling is closed for renovations :(
I found that out the hard way
Segway tour is fully booked unless we want to show up and hope 2 people no show. 
wouldn't recommend Segway tours this time of year, can be really really cold
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on December 25, 2012, 02:55:03 AM
wouldn't recommend Segway tours this time of year, can be really really cold

+1
I was in Paris last week. It's freakin cold.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 25, 2012, 04:55:39 AM
Le CHATEAUBRIAND
www.123cacher.com/en/kosher_restaurant/chateaubriand.html
Is Glatt some nights of the week (there's a Chabad Bochur who used to go to Morris town that works there you can call and ask him) Its French cuisine you can get Fois Gras there
Interesting.  Any idea what days?
Or the bochurs name?

I found that out the hard way
Is it really closed to reno or closed for good?

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on December 25, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
Interesting.  Any idea what days?
Or the bochurs name?
Is it really closed to reno or closed for good?
I don't remember his name but
It's a very small place - when I was the he was the only waiter - he told me he takes care of the corporate accounts like when frum business men come to town and need for a meeting or something like that - his brother took over the Rav of Chabad Champs -Élysées for Shabbos when he went out of town this summer - I actually took down his number but I can't seem to find it I'll let you know of I do
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 25, 2012, 01:10:12 PM

Is it really closed to reno or closed for good?
[/quote] don't know exactly what the story is, I followed their online address to the 18th district ( which was super hard to find street as I was looking for it inn the 17th) ended up at a takeout version of Darjeeling
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 25, 2012, 05:24:58 PM
According to the guy at Pitzman, Darjeeling may be gone for good. Nobody seems to know.

Pitzman has also gone under a menu change since 2010 and I found their quality to have gone downhill IMHO though they were packed today due to X-mas.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 25, 2012, 05:26:56 PM
Dude -- we need pics of the Squite.

Don't come back until you have them :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 25, 2012, 05:41:37 PM
Dude -- we need pics of the Squite.

Don't come back until you have them :P
Gotta leave something for the Tee-Are.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 25, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
Not even a teaser??  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on December 26, 2012, 12:59:41 AM
According to the guy at Pitzman, Darjeeling may be gone for good. Nobody seems to know.

Pitzman has also gone under a menu change since 2010 and I found their quality to have gone downhill IMHO though they were packed today due to X-mas.
so they don't have the Hawaiian pizza anymore? Was there like two weeks ago and couldn't find it on the menu, though maybe I just didn't know the name for it
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 26, 2012, 04:09:49 PM
so they don't have the Hawaiian pizza anymore? Was there like two weeks ago and couldn't find it on the menu, though maybe I just didn't know the name for it
No Hawaiian Pizza :(

Chateaubriand said only the rib steak was glatt, nothing else was.  I didn't feel comfortable eating there.

There is an incredible lack of mehadrin meat places here.  Really sad. Darjeeling is apparently closed for good.  123cacher said there was a place called Rafael under Rottenberg but I called them and they said they are now just beis din as it's just too hard to get quality glatt meat.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 26, 2012, 05:31:59 PM
Awful. what did you eat? Did you try the burger place?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 26, 2012, 05:33:50 PM
Awful. what did you eat? Did you try the burger place?
Which burger place?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 26, 2012, 05:36:42 PM
Don't remember what it was called. I was walking around the Jewish area looking for glatt meat and this was the only place in found. It actually wasn't bad. It was located on a corner (tons of info, right? I really don't remember more)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 26, 2012, 05:39:46 PM
Don't remember what it was called. I was walking around the Jewish area looking for glatt meat and this was the only place in found. It actually wasn't bad. It was located on a corner (tons of info, right? I really don't remember more)
Micky's Deli in the Pletzel? Didn't go there.
Only meat we had was at Micky's Kosher in the 19th and I'd recommend skipping it.

Really quite sad.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on December 26, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
Micky's Deli in the Pletzel? Didn't go there.
Only meat we had was at Micky's Kosher in the 19th and I'd recommend skipping it.

Really quite sad.
Mickeys in the Pletzel ain't gonna give you French Cuisine - but you'll get a decent burger or pastrami sandwich
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 26, 2012, 05:47:27 PM
Micky's Deli in the Pletzel? Didn't go there.
Only meat we had was at Micky's Kosher in the 19th and I'd recommend skipping it.

Really quite sad.

Yeah, that was it. Wasn't bad. A pretty good burger and good fries. And I walked out full.

Sad indeed
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 26, 2012, 05:55:18 PM
According to 123cacher the only other place that may have mehadrin french cuisine is "K'Rolls" in the 19th.
Anyone been?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on December 27, 2012, 02:48:30 AM
According to 123cacher the only other place that may have mehadrin french cuisine is "K'Rolls" in the 19th.
Anyone been?
Imitation frog? ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Doge on December 27, 2012, 12:10:58 PM
The only Glatt kosher place that Rav Rottenberg gives a hechsher is a small but nice place called -Steak & Soda- see below for details. Call before you go it was open as of August.

 Cacher Rav Rottenberg Restaurant, Service Traiteur, Chabbat à emporter, viande

Cuisine du restaurant : Grillades

Steak & Soda :
225 boulevard Voltaire 75011 Paris - Consultez le plan

Tél. : 01 40 09 24 55

Accès : Métro rue des Boulets

Horaires d'ouverture : du Dimanche au Jeudi de 12h à 15h et de 19h à 22h45. le Vendredi de 12h à 15h.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 27, 2012, 05:41:15 PM
The only Glatt kosher place that Rav Rottenberg gives a hechsher is a small but nice place called -Steak & Soda- see below for details. Call before you go it was open as of August.

 Cacher Rav Rottenberg Restaurant, Service Traiteur, Chabbat à emporter, viande

Cuisine du restaurant : Grillades

Steak & Soda :
225 boulevard Voltaire 75011 Paris - Consultez le plan

Tél. : 01 40 09 24 55

Accès : Métro rue des Boulets

Horaires d'ouverture : du Dimanche au Jeudi de 12h à 15h et de 19h à 22h45. le Vendredi de 12h à 15h.

Thanks for posting, but a day late and dollar short for me :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 27, 2012, 05:44:39 PM
Looks decent even, shame I didn't know about that place yesterday.
http://www.mangercacher.com/restaurant-cacher/steak-soda.php
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 08:56:45 PM
Hey. I am going to be in Paris on a stopover for 12 hours next week. From 10am till 10pm. Any suggestion of things I can do in a day ? Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 02, 2013, 09:05:22 PM
Hey. I am going to be in Paris on a stopover for 12 hours next week. From 10am till 10pm. Any suggestion of things I can do in a day ? Thanks

Lots! Eiffel tower? Arc de triumph? Get in a good meal?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 10:33:53 PM
Yea. We plan on doing the obvious like the arch and Eiffel. Just wondering if there is any other must-see place thats not to time consuming there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 10:39:07 PM
Yea. We plan on doing the obvious like the arch and Eiffel. Just wondering if there is any other must-see place thats not to time consuming there.
Between my 2 Paris trip notes I cover pretty much everything there is to do or that I wasn't able to do.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 10:58:42 PM
Yea. I read those they were helpful.  Just curious, I know you were looking for a good Seine River tour. Did you end up going? or Do you have any suggestions for any good ones?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:00:19 PM
Yea. I read those they were helpful.  Just curious, I know you were looking for a good Seine River tour. Did you end up going? or Do you have any suggestions for any good ones?
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/27356
Bring lots of layers!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 11:11:05 PM
Yea Thanks. Just found this Batobus. Its a boat that goes along the river and makes a bunch of stops at the arch, Eiffel tower etc. Its 15 Euro for the day and you can get on and off as you please. Seems like a great idea for 1-getting around 2- getting a nice scenic boat tour. Here is the link:
http://www.batobus.com/english/Batobus-navettes-promenade-paris-seine-tarifs.htm
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:12:53 PM
I don't really see the point of the Batobus.  The Paris subway is world-class for getting around, so it definitely can't beat that as a mode of transport, it would take forever to get anywhere and you'd be limited to stops along the river.

And it doesn't tell you anything about what you're seeing so it doesn't beat the boat that I used for tourist purposes.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 02, 2013, 11:13:59 PM
Between my 2 Paris trip notes I cover pretty much everything there is to do or that I wasn't able to do.
For a foodie :P

Lonely Planet Paris has a couple more things...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:15:50 PM
For a foodie :P
What non-food activity did I not mention?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2013, 11:16:40 PM
National Museum of Modern Art at the Centre Pompidou
Musée d'Orsay
Rodin Museum
sewer museum
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 11:19:26 PM
My wife is scared of subways. I think this may be my best alternative then paying a taxi driver for a day. I just need to find which good restaurants are nearby to some of these stops..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2013, 11:20:08 PM
My wife is scared of subways.
All subways? During broad daylight?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:20:18 PM
National Museum of Modern Art at the Centre Pompidou
Musée d'Orsay
Rodin Museum
sewer museum
I mentioned d'Orsay, ran out of time.
But you're right, there are hundreds of museums in Paris.  I tend to ignore them as I typically find 90% of museums to be a bore.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:21:12 PM
My wife is scared of subways. I think this may be my best alternative then paying a taxi driver for a day. I just need to find which good restaurants are nearby to some of these stops..
The Paris Subway is nothing like NYC.  It's clean, efficient, fast, cheap, etc.  And it tells you when the next 2 trains are coming (in rush hour you probably won't wait more than 100 seconds, off-peak times an average of 4 minutes)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
Yea. To her all subways are like the NY subways. Where people are frequently get shoved onto the tracks :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 11:22:53 PM
I hope to convince her over the next couple days. Hopefully she will come around.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 02, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Claustrophobics doesn't care how clean, efficient, fast or cheap it is.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:24:20 PM
Claustrophobics doesn't care how clean, efficient, fast or cheap it is.
That's a diff story if that's the case.
But I personally don't care for the NYC metro (I'd drive or take a taxi) but have no problem at all with the Paris metro.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 02, 2013, 11:25:06 PM
I mentioned d'Orsay, ran out of time.
But you're right, there are hundreds of museums in Paris.  I tend to ignore them as I typically find 90% of museums to be a bore.
Dont know everyone here but perhaps (most likely) most are the same you would be correct.

But then again, seems like many here are foodies...
The Paris Subway is nothing like NYC.  It's clean, efficient, fast, cheap, etc.  And it tells you when the next 2 trains are coming (in rush hour you probably won't wait more than 100 seconds, off-peak times an average of 4 minutes)
Is that like telling someone whos scared of flying that First Class is much more comfortable? Guess if you crash, at least its in comfort ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2013, 11:25:09 PM
I mentioned d'Orsay, ran out of time.
But you're right, there are hundreds of museums in Paris.  I tend to ignore them as I typically find 90% of museums to be a bore.
Fair enough, but others may not feel the same way.
And one thing i can tell you is the sewer museum is unlike any other museum you have been to
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on January 02, 2013, 11:26:03 PM
Fair enough, but others may not feel the same way.
And one thing i can tell you is the sewer museum is unlike any other museum you have been to
missed that one
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 11:26:29 PM
I heard from someone who went recently that this Batobus was well worth it and also convenient. I may give it a shot.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:26:48 PM
Is that like telling someone whos scared of flying that First Class is much more comfortable? Guess if you crash, at least its in comfort ;)
Depends on which aspect you're scared of...

Fair enough, but others may not feel the same way.
And one thing i can tell you is the sewer museum is unlike any other museum you have been to
Then you should've mentioned it before I went to Paris when I asked :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2013, 11:27:32 PM
Depends on which aspect you're scared of...
Then you should've mentioned it before I went to Paris :P
I totally forgot about it. Just read some of my notes tonight from that trip. Sorry.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 02, 2013, 11:27:50 PM
Depends on which aspect you're scared of...
Then you should've mentioned it before I went to Paris when I asked :P
Guess youre gonna have to go again...shame ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:27:59 PM
I heard from someone who went recently that this Batobus was well worth it and also convenient. I may give it a shot.
I guess if the metro isn't an option and you have some time to kill and don't want to pay for taxis it's OK.
/.02
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 11:28:45 PM
Guess youre gonna have to go again...shame ;)
Lol.
Not till they open a good mehadrin meat restaurant :P
#Foodie
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: marko on January 02, 2013, 11:35:10 PM
Sounds like food is not at a premium there. What do you recommend for lunch and dinner? (I am being there for just a day)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 03, 2013, 07:14:19 AM
I mentioned d'Orsay, ran out of time.
But you're right, there are hundreds of museums in Paris.  I tend to ignore them as I typically find 90% of museums to be a bore.

There are museums, and there are MUSEUMS. The Louvre and the Orsay are of the second type.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 03, 2013, 07:16:55 AM
That's a diff story if that's the case.
But I personally don't care for the NYC metro (I'd drive or take a taxi) but have no problem at all with the Paris metro.
I'm originally from NYC and while I love the subway, the Paris metro is cleaner, there's more light, never seen a rat, and the trains are smaller and shorter and much less threatening to a claustrophobic.
On the other hand, getting across town in Paris can take forever because of all the stops, whereas the NYC subway can get you from Brooklyn or Queens to Manhattan much, much faster. There's also no such thing as an express train in paris (except the RER...)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jmansour on January 03, 2013, 07:50:48 AM
Sounds like food is not at a premium there. What do you recommend for lunch and dinner? (I am being there for just a day)

Go to linte cafe its near champs dylesee its very good..
Or you can try las du falafel which probably the greatest falafel joint anywhere
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 03, 2013, 08:31:19 AM
There are museums, and there are MUSEUMS. The Louvre and the Orsay are of the second type.

Hence the 90% figure.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 10:24:40 AM
Or you can try las du falafel which probably the greatest falafel joint anywhere
It's very good.  Not sure about greatest though.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 10:26:32 AM
I'm originally from NYC and while I love the subway, the Paris metro is cleaner, there's more light, never seen a rat, and the trains are smaller and shorter and much less threatening to a claustrophobic.
On the other hand, getting across town in Paris can take forever because of all the stops, whereas the NYC subway can get you from Brooklyn or Queens to Manhattan much, much faster. There's also no such thing as an express train in paris (except the RER...)
Yup, far less scary as I said.  Plus some stations even have gates and I do hope NYC adopts those.

In NYC you wait much longer for trains, you don't know when the next is coming, and good luck trying to get from Brooklyn to Queens or anywhere the subway doesn't serve.

In Paris the subway does a great job covering the entire city making it painless to get from anywhere to anywhere.  Plus it's more compact than NYC so it shouldn't take too long to get anywhere.
Title: Re: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 03, 2013, 10:52:16 AM
Yup, far less scary as I said.  Plus some stations even have gates and I do hope NYC adopts those.

In NYC you wait much longer for trains, you don't know when the next is coming, and good luck trying to get from Brooklyn to Queens or anywhere the subway doesn't serve.

In Paris the subway does a great job covering the entire city making it painless to get from anywhere to anywhere.  Plus it's more compact than NYC so it shouldn't take too long to get anywhere.

Plus traffic in Paris is worse than NYC IME, so another reason to use the metro.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 03, 2013, 11:08:25 AM
Yup, far less scary as I said.  Plus some stations even have gates and I do hope NYC adopts those.

In NYC you wait much longer for trains, you don't know when the next is coming, and good luck trying to get from Brooklyn to Queens or anywhere the subway doesn't serve.

In Paris the subway does a great job covering the entire city making it painless to get from anywhere to anywhere.  Plus it's more compact than NYC so it shouldn't take too long to get anywhere.

evidently the new second avenue subway will have those gates. That is, when it opens in 2050 or something.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 03, 2013, 11:13:46 AM
In NYC you wait much longer for trains, you don't know when the next is coming

I agree with you with regard to NY vs Paris Subway.

Though it must be awhile since youve taken the subway in NY. Now they have electronic boards with the next train arrival times...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 11:15:23 AM
I agree with you with regard to NY vs Paris Subway.

Though it must be awhile since youve taken the subway in NY. Now they have electronic boards with the next train arrival times...
It's been a reallllly long time indeed.  Possibly 10 years to be fair.
Do all stations now have that?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 03, 2013, 11:20:24 AM
Nope but many do and I believe they are adding more
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jmansour on January 03, 2013, 05:06:04 PM
It's been a reallllly long time indeed.  Possibly 10 years to be fair.
Do all stations now have that?

they just added an app called "subway time" basically it shows you when the next train is coming in real time. But it only works on the lextingon ave and 8th ave lines since they have more updated signlas. The other lines will take years.
it comes in handy like this monring when i saw there was a major delay i walked over to a different train down the block.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 04, 2013, 02:43:46 AM
According to 123cacher the only other place that may have mehadrin french cuisine is "K'Rolls" in the 19th.
Anyone been?

in the 19th almost every place are mehadrin

overhere in frace no one really know the word "menadrin"

but you could eat in many many places
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 04, 2013, 02:44:52 AM
in the 19th almost every place are mehadrin

overhere in frace no one really know the word "menadrin"

but you could eat in many many places
What meat restaurants in the 19th are mehadrin besides Micky's?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 04, 2013, 03:02:40 AM
What meat restaurants in the 19th are mehadrin besides Micky's?
in france there is no a such thing as meadrin or meadrin min ameadrin

there is a few hechsher that we could eat (and those few hechsherim are the ones that every one use)
- bet din
- Vaad lubavitch
- Rotenberg
- Katz

abvioustly we cant eat all of them everywhere the hechsher its not the main thing here
the main thing is who's the shomer at the restaurent
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 04, 2013, 03:05:48 AM
I was under the impression that Lubavitch, Rotenberg, and Katz are only glatt kosher meat while beit din allows non-glatt meat.

Is this not the case?  Again, which meat restaurants in the 19th are acceptable?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 04, 2013, 03:19:17 AM
I was under the impression that Lubavitch, Rotenberg, and Katz are only glatt kosher meat while beit din allows non-glatt meat.

Is this not the case?  Again, which meat restaurants in the 19th are acceptable?

ohh for the meat yes that would only be vaad lubavitch and rotenberg (and even you should check who's the mashgiach)
but for any other restaurent NOT FLEISHIK
bet din its fine you only need to check who's the mashgiach

there is not really a normal rull in paris you just have to check who's the mashgiach
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 04, 2013, 03:19:47 AM
check this website its a easy website
http://www.kosherinfrance.com/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 04, 2013, 03:23:57 AM
ohh for the meat yes that would only be vaad lubavitch and rotenberg (and even you should check who's the mashgiach)
but for any other restaurent NOT FLEISHIK
bet din its fine you only need to check who's the mashgiach

there is not really a normal rull in paris you just have to check who's the mashgiach
Understood.
Like I said there doesn't appear to be any Rottenberg/Lubavitch french meat restaurants in Paris.  Which is quite sad.
Do you know of any glatt meat places besides Steak & Soda, Le Shine, and Micky's?

Is La Marina Grill under Beit Din acceptable? I heard they may be all glatt?

Do you know if Darjeeling is permanently closed?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 04, 2013, 09:43:52 AM
let me find out about those places ill let you know after shabbos
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 05, 2013, 04:53:51 PM
Do you know if Darjeeling is permanently closed?

yes darjeeling is temporarily closed for a few months

Understood.
Do you know of any glatt meat places besides Steak & Soda, Le Shine, and Micky's?


you have Le petit pelport wich he normally have lubavitcher meat (you should ask him when you there but it should be from Shapira/glatt lubavitch)

look overhere for a full liste of glatt restaurants in paris
http://www.kosherinfrance.com/restaurant-cacher.php?Action=chercher&pageEncours=1&chercher=1&Nom=&Ville=Paris&Arrondissement=&ckdviande=viande&Departements=75&Regions=0&Specialites=0&Restaurations=1&Certifications=3&chercher2=Submit
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on January 05, 2013, 06:29:08 PM
yes darjeeling is permanently closed for a few months
???
Do you mean temporarily?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 05, 2013, 06:41:03 PM
oh ye sorry ;) ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2013, 08:05:31 PM
yes darjeeling is temporarily closed for a few months
Great news, please post when it's open.

you have Le petit pelport wich he normally have lubavitcher meat (you should ask him when you there but it should be from Shapira/glatt lubavitch)

look overhere for a full liste of glatt restaurants in paris
http://www.kosherinfrance.com/restaurant-cacher.php?Action=chercher&pageEncours=1&chercher=1&Nom=&Ville=Paris&Arrondissement=&ckdviande=viande&Departements=75&Regions=0&Specialites=0&Restaurations=1&Certifications=3&chercher2=Submit
How come they're only under Beit Din?
How is an outsider supposed to figure out where they can eat :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 05, 2013, 10:03:01 PM

How is an outsider supposed to figure out where they can eat :P
Since when were the French accommodating?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on January 05, 2013, 10:55:08 PM
Since when were the French accommodating?
Word War 2
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 06, 2013, 06:47:15 AM
How come they're only under Beit Din?
How is an outsider supposed to figure out where they can eat :P

thats sad but there is really no clear way to figure out
the only way is this website when you search on the label check habad lubavicth
then you'll find out the places
http://www.kosherinfrance.com/restaurant-cacher.php?Action=chercher&pageEncours=1&chercher=1&Nom=&Ville=Paris&Arrondissement=&ckdviande=viande&Departements=75&Regions=0&Specialites=0&Restaurations=1&Certifications=3&chercher2=Submit

this is the only way ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 06, 2013, 09:26:13 AM
thats sad but there is really no clear way to figure out
the only way is this website when you search on the label check habad lubavicth
then you'll find out the places
http://www.kosherinfrance.com/restaurant-cacher.php?Action=chercher&pageEncours=1&chercher=1&Nom=&Ville=Paris&Arrondissement=&ckdviande=viande&Departements=75&Regions=0&Specialites=0&Restaurations=1&Certifications=3&chercher2=Submit

this is the only way ;)
Right, but a place that only uses glatt meat (like Le petit pelleport according to you) would not show up there.
Neither would La Marina Grill which also apparently may only use Glatt meat.

But still I don't understand why such places don't go under Rottenberg or Katz?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 06, 2013, 09:46:54 AM
Right, but a place that only uses glatt meat (like Le petit pelleport according to you) would not show up there.
Neither would La Marina Grill which also apparently may only use Glatt meat.

But still I don't understand why such places don't go under Rottenberg or Katz?

is true there is no way for outsider to figure out for places like
le petit pelleport that is under the bet din but we know from here that he use glatt kosher meat

and there is many more restaurent in paris that is the same problem

the raison why they not under rottenberg its because is very hard! he is a very strict person even stricter than vaad lubavitch
thats why they are more lubavitch restaurent than rottenberg or katz (is brother-in law)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 06, 2013, 09:52:10 AM
is true there is no way for outsider to figure out for places like
le petit pelleport that is under the bet din but we know from here that he use glatt kosher meat

and there is many more restaurent in paris that is the same problem

the raison why they not under rottenberg its because is very hard! he is a very strict person even stricter than vaad lubavitch
thats why they are more lubavitch restaurent than rottenberg or katz (is brother-in law)

Well if you hear of meat places that are trustworthy then post them here :)

Anyone want to make a wiki of activities and eateries for this thread?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 06, 2013, 09:57:33 AM
Well if you hear of meat places that are trustworthy then post them here :)


no problem

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 06, 2013, 12:02:31 PM
Anyone want to make a wiki of activities and eateries for this thread?
+1, someone please do, i havent been there in 5+ years and dont want to read through 50 pages
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 06, 2013, 12:21:32 PM
anyone know whats the best french style dairy restaurant?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 06, 2013, 05:10:43 PM
anyone know whats the best french style dairy restaurant?

Tibs 
La suite very good new restaurent with many original things
La stella
Il conte
Le grand mechant louvre
Il Mondo
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 09, 2013, 12:18:53 PM
Courtesy of awesome El Al glitch from August, have a layover in CDG enroute to TLV. Would like to run to Eiffel tower quickly & come right back to the airport but, don't want to risk missing connecting flight. How much time is suggested at a minimum to pull this off. 4 hours sufficient or cutting it way too close? Keep in mind, would have to go through security upon return to CDG. Obviously would be hiring a cab for R/T vs. bus or train.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 12:42:15 PM
Not sure a cab is faster than a train.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on January 09, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Anyone want to make a wiki of activities and eateries for this thread?
You should type up an ideal wiki template for all locations. Paste it in every trip report and then people can add to it as they'd like. It'll be much more encouraging and less daunting when its mesudar like that.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 09, 2013, 12:55:12 PM
Not sure a cab is faster than a train.
I looked into that. But, would take lots of walking time to get from terminal TO train station, station to tower, tower back to station AND hope the schedule matches up perfectly.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 12:56:52 PM
I looked into that. But, would take lots of walking time to get from terminal TO train station, station to tower, tower back to station AND hope the schedule matches up perfectly.
Traffic is unpredictable. Train is relatively so.

Eiffel tower wouldn't be the first thing I'd run to see though.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 09, 2013, 01:29:10 PM
Eiffel tower wouldn't be the first thing I'd run to see though.

-1, for the common tourist there is nothing more must-see than the eiffel tower in Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 09, 2013, 01:43:15 PM
-1, for the common tourist there is nothing more must-see than the eiffel tower in Paris.
Agreed. Arc de Triumph would be a close second but, certainly will not have the time to climb the stairs to get to the top for the awesome view. I have been to Paris when single. My wife has never been there.  I can buy Eiffel lift tickets ahead of time to avoid the lines.

But, I still haven't heard from anyone who may have pulled off what I'm trying to do within the limited time avail. THe last thing I want is to miss the flight to TLV.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
If you buy the ticket in advance and have the cab bring you there and wait for you to return I think you can pull it off.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on January 09, 2013, 02:16:44 PM
Courtesy of awesome El Al glitch from August, have a layover in CDG enroute to TLV. Would like to run to Eiffel tower quickly & come right back to the airport but, don't want to risk missing connecting flight. How much time is suggested at a minimum to pull this off. 4 hours sufficient or cutting it way too close? Keep in mind, would have to go through security upon return to CDG. Obviously would be hiring a cab for R/T vs. bus or train.

Think about if things do not go as planned -- what will you do if get back to airport to late for flight??--if have a plan --go for it-- if not will it be worth it

many people when they leave a Paris hotel to go to the airport allow a minimum of 2 hours -you need to go and come back "plus" tour-- like I said think it over

as you can tell from my reply -- I would not do it -- the e. tower will be waiting for you on ur next trip
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 09, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
Think about if things do not go as planned -- what will you do if get back to airport to late for flight??--if have a plan --go for it-- if not will it be worth it

many people when they leave a Paris hotel to go to the airport allow a minimum of 2 hours -you need to go and come back "plus" tour-- like I said think it over

as you can tell from my reply -- I would not do it -- the e. tower will be waiting for you on ur next trip
Definitely would be a nerve wracking excursion and leaning more in the direction of not doing it (No offense Dan  ;)).  Would not be checking any bags as they will have been checked all the way through. But, still would have to go through an El Al screening/grilling on return to CDG.

However, on the flip side, we are not frequent intnl travelers by any stretch so, no clue when "next trip" will be (if ever) to Paris. Maybe skip going to top of tower, just snap some pics? Really was hoping to hear from someone on DDF who has ACTUALLY done it vs. hypotheticals.

 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 02:48:43 PM
100 minutes for the round-trip drive allows for heavy traffic delays+50 minutes to go up/spend time at top/go back down leaves you with 90 minutes at CDG before your flight.
That's plenty of time IMHO, I've cut things much closer than that.  Whether it's worth the money is another story, but there's no reason you can't pull it off.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 09, 2013, 02:52:34 PM
100 minutes for a round trip, depending on the time of day, may not even be enough on the low side.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 02:54:30 PM
100 minutes for a round trip, depending on the time of day, may not even be enough on the low side.
According to Google it's 33 mins each way without traffic, 40 in moderate traffic, and 51 in heavy traffic.
There shouldn't be heavy traffic both ways on a quick turn, but even if there is it's accounted for.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 09, 2013, 03:04:46 PM
According to Google it's 33 mins each way without traffic, 40 in moderate traffic, and 51 in heavy traffic.
There shouldn't be heavy traffic both ways on a quick turn, but even if there is it's accounted for.

A car accident (like we experienced) could easily turn a 50 min ride into a 75 minute ride, one-way.

Trust me.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 03:12:13 PM
A car accident (like we experienced) could easily turn a 50 min ride into a 75 minute ride, one-way.

Trust me.
Even so there's enough slack. I checked in at CDG at ~T-50 minutes on a multi-carrier itin before.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 03:22:27 PM
Even so there's enough slack. I checked in at CDG at ~T-50 minutes on a multi-carrier itin before.
He doesnt need to check in so the only deadline is doors closing around 20 min before departure. if they have his bags onboard they won't offload them so quickly but it will be a bit uncomfortable afterwards
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 03:28:37 PM
He doesnt need to check in so the only deadline is doors closing around 20 min before departure. if they have his bags onboard they won't offload them so quickly but it will be a bit uncomfortable afterwards
Will AA be able to give him LY boarding passes in JFK?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 03:38:19 PM
Will AA be able to give him LY boarding passes in JFK?
Any airline can provide boarding passes for all carriers on the ticket. (The first 3 segments usually).

I've gotten Qatar BPs in TLV
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 03:52:40 PM
Any airline can provide boarding passes for all carriers on the ticket. (The first 3 segments usually).
That's a huge YMMV IME.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 09, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
Will AA be able to give him LY boarding passes in JFK?
It's actually an LY reservation & flight codeshare w/ AA.  Would that not automatically print out boarding pass for second leg? Were your past check-ins @ CDG w/ LY? Cuz we all know they throw average screening times right out the window.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
I've never flown LY.
Even if they don't give you a boarding pass in JFK you can get one at CDG before going to the Eiffel Tower.
Then there's no need to checkin later at all.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 09, 2013, 04:25:54 PM
If I were to do it, where would you recommend I get Euros in NY so I can pay cash for cab and not get slammed with lousy exchange rate on CC.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 09, 2013, 04:28:59 PM
If I were to do it, where would you recommend I get Euros in NY so I can pay cash for cab and not get slammed with lousy exchange rate on CC.

CCs often provide the best exchange rate (assuming they don't assess ForEx fees).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 12:51:15 AM

Even if they don't give you a boarding pass in JFK you can get one at CDG before going to the Eiffel Tower.

Check in counters generally open 3 hours before dept...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 06:36:53 AM
CCs often provide the best exchange rate (assuming they don't assess ForEx fees).

Check the train schedule (RER) - there are sometimes direct (no-stop) trains from the airport to the Gare Du Nord. Take the RER line B from the airport to St. Michel-Notre Dame, then take the RER C from there to champs du Mars - Tour Eiffel.

According to the trip planner http://www.ratp.fr/itineraires/en/ratp/recherche-avancee it will take you about 55 minutes. The traffic in Paris is horrible, i would very much try to avoid a taxi...

If you do want to take the RER, bring euro coins, because the machines dont take bills and the credit card readers are fiddly, so be prepared.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 10, 2013, 07:06:36 AM
Check the train schedule (RER) - there are sometimes direct (no-stop) trains from the airport to the Gare Du Nord. Take the RER line B from the airport to St. Michel-Notre Dame, then take the RER C from there to champs du Mars - Tour Eiffel.

According to the trip planner http://www.ratp.fr/itineraires/en/ratp/recherche-avancee it will take you about 55 minutes. The traffic in Paris is horrible, i would very much try to avoid a taxi...

If you do want to take the RER, bring euro coins, because the machines dont take bills and the credit card readers are fiddly, so be prepared.

-1, , take a cab
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 08:58:23 AM
-1, , take a cab

Is that based on experience?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 10, 2013, 09:28:14 AM
Yeah. I took the bus and it was very efficient. Left Paris at 630 for an 820 flight and had more than enough time
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 09:36:35 AM
Yeah. I took the bus and it was very efficient. Left Paris at 630 for an 820 flight and had more than enough time

There's also this:
http://www.lescarsairfrance.com/en/our-network.html

These are buses run by air france, from the arc d'triomphe, direct to CDG. From/to the arc d'triomphe you can take metro line 6 to bir-hakeim tour eiffel, which is abouat 7 minutes. In my experience very reliable and also very nice.

This might be a good idea because you get the best of both worlds: a direct, fast run to the airport, while avoiding the traffic in the city.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
Courtesy of awesome El Al glitch from August, have a layover in CDG enroute to TLV. Would like to run to Eiffel tower quickly & come right back to the airport but, don't want to risk missing connecting flight. How much time is suggested at a minimum to pull this off. 4 hours sufficient or cutting it way too close? Keep in mind, would have to go through security upon return to CDG. Obviously would be hiring a cab for R/T vs. bus or train.

what time and on what day of the week?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 10, 2013, 10:15:19 AM
what time and on what day of the week?
Arriving Monday 10:30AM. CDG-TLV is @ 2:45PM
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 10, 2013, 10:26:56 AM
There's also this:
http://www.lescarsairfrance.com/en/our-network.html

These are buses run by air france, from the arc d'triomphe, direct to CDG. From/to the arc d'triomphe you can take metro line 6 to bir-hakeim tour eiffel, which is abouat 7 minutes. In my experience very reliable and also very nice.

This might be a good idea because you get the best of both worlds: a direct, fast run to the airport, while avoiding the traffic in the city.
According to the site, it says trip is 1 hour each way. Not good for my needs.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 12:13:54 PM
According to the site, it says trip is 1 hour each way. Not good for my needs.

I don't know where people are getting these time estimates for a cab of 30-50 minutes. In my experience a cab during the day on a weekday is an hour at least.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
I don't know where people are getting these time estimates for a cab of 30-50 minutes. In my experience a cab during the day on a weekday is an hour at least.

Also remember you can't just waltz out of the airport, you need to clear passport control, and sometimes there are lines.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 10, 2013, 12:23:30 PM
Also remember you can't just waltz out of the airport, you need to clear passport control, and sometimes there are lines.
Don't know how many other flights arriving at that hour but, I am at the front of my plane so "should be" towards the front of passport control lines.

Have you done those cab rides numerous times? Or just a handful?
Anybody else vouch for 50-60 min. cab rides vs. 30-40?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 01:19:33 PM
From the PHP the bus we just took maybe 30-40 minutes each way.
A cab definitely could have done 30.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 10, 2013, 03:06:40 PM
dont do it at least you really know the place

the buses are so slow
by car is fine till you reach paris once in paris forget it
the subway it's your only hope but even it is too tight

a "taxi moto" would be for sure fine but its very expensive
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 03:11:50 PM

a "taxi moto" would be for sure fine but its very expensive
With his wife, eh
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 10, 2013, 03:37:29 PM
With his wife, eh

two taxi moto
400€ round trip :p
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 04:38:41 PM
It may well come down to whether AA will give you the LY boarding pass.  If you have that then you really don't need much time at all in CDG.
If anyone here has flown this route yet, chime in now.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 05:48:11 PM
It may well come down to whether AA will give you the LY boarding pass.  If you have that then you really don't need much time at all in CDG.
If anyone here has flown this route yet, chime in now.

I've done LY from CDG-TLV often but never on a connection. I do know that they take their sweet time with the security check and the terminal they are in (2A, i believe) is awful. I don't know where Delta arrives but i've had to wait sometimes 20-30 minutes for passport control, because a lot of flights arrive at the same time.

Dan, which bus did you take? the air france bus or the RoissyBus?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 10, 2013, 06:16:09 PM
I've done LY from CDG-TLV often but never on a connection. I do know that they take their sweet time with the security check and the terminal they are in (2A, i believe) is awful. I don't know where Delta arrives but i've had to wait sometimes 20-30 minutes for passport control, because a lot of flights arrive at the same time.

Dan, which bus did you take? the air france bus or the RoissyBus?

This is my concrete suggestion:
take the RER B to Denfert-Rochereau (there's a train at 10:55 which arrives at 11:37, and another at 11:03->11:41, 11:10->11:52, so you have options). At Denfert-Rochereau get off and take the Metro line 6 to Bir-Hakeim, which is about a 5 minute walk to the eiffel tower (there are signs). About 1 hour door to door. If you're at the eiffel tower at 12, you have an hour before going back to the metro. If you get back to Denfert-Rochereau by 1:18 you'll be at the airport at 2 PM.

mendoul, what do you think? can it be done?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 10, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
This is my concrete suggestion:
take the RER B to Denfert-Rochereau (there's a train at 10:55 which arrives at 11:37, and another at 11:03->11:41, 11:10->11:52, so you have options). At Denfert-Rochereau get off and take the Metro line 6 to Bir-Hakeim, which is about a 5 minute walk to the eiffel tower (there are signs). About 1 hour door to door. If you're at the eiffel tower at 12, you have an hour before going back to the metro. If you get back to Denfert-Rochereau by 1:18 you'll be at the airport at 2 PM.

mendoul, what do you think? can it be done?


yes he can make it but that would be very very tight!!
especially the RER B run very often late

i thing thats a good idea what you said but if he see that the train is late forget it
and if is on is way back at the train station and the train is late then he should take a cab
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: NJDevil on January 11, 2013, 02:00:27 PM
This is my concrete suggestion:
take the RER B to Denfert-Rochereau (there's a train at 10:55 which arrives at 11:37, and another at 11:03->11:41, 11:10->11:52, so you have options). At Denfert-Rochereau get off and take the Metro line 6 to Bir-Hakeim, which is about a 5 minute walk to the eiffel tower (there are signs). About 1 hour door to door. If you're at the eiffel tower at 12, you have an hour before going back to the metro. If you get back to Denfert-Rochereau by 1:18 you'll be at the airport at 2 PM.

mendoul, what do you think? can it be done?
Flight is 2:45!!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 12, 2013, 01:45:59 PM
Flight is 2:45!!!

so i dont think its possible at least you get the boarding pass before and still!!
Title: 8 hours in paris
Post by: rebdude on January 16, 2013, 01:16:03 PM
i am going to israel on the "mistake" tickets(thanks dan!) and i have 8 hours in paris. how many hours should i count off for customs and check in? also, any ideas what to do for the rest of the time there? is there a 4 hour tour around the main places? what about the ati-semitism? is that something to worry about? any help would be great!
Title: Re: 8 hours in paris
Post by: yhakak on January 16, 2013, 01:27:42 PM
i am going to israel on the "mistake" tickets(thanks dan!) and i have 8 hours in paris. how many hours should i count off for customs and check in? also, any ideas what to do for the rest of the time there? is there a 4 hour tour around the main places? what about the ati-semitism? is that something to worry about? any help would be great!
customs, etc. takes no time, it's the european union, they don't really care. Passport control can take a while. I don't know whether you'll get boarding passes for the CDG-TLV leg in NY, that will save you from having to check-in again, maybe NJdevil can share his experience...
as for antisemitism, i usually wear a baseball cap except when i'm in a Jewish area.

Finally, you don't need a 4 hour tour, it will be a waste of time and money. Figure out what you want to see and take the metro.

have fun!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2013, 01:37:59 PM
i am going to israel on the "mistake" tickets(thanks dan!) and i have 8 hours in paris. how many hours should i count off for customs and check in? also, any ideas what to do for the rest of the time there? is there a 4 hour tour around the main places? what about the ati-semitism? is that something to worry about? any help would be great!
Look into a segway tour.
http://citysegwaytours.com/paris/

8 hours is plenty of time.
Paris is the only place I've ever been to where I wear I baseball hat over my yarmulka.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rebdude on January 16, 2013, 04:08:35 PM
thanks guys!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 17, 2013, 11:23:39 AM
Look into a segway tour.
http://citysegwaytours.com/paris/

+1 PM me for discount code
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Armadillo on January 26, 2013, 02:50:06 PM
If Eiffel is out, is there anything worth doing on a 4 hr stopover (Sunday 1-5pm)? Anything special to pick up in the airport dutyfree?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 27, 2013, 07:59:09 AM
If Eiffel is out, is there anything worth doing on a 4 hr stopover (Sunday 1-5pm)? Anything special to pick up in the airport dutyfree?

my experience is that the duty free at CDG is no great metziah.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on January 27, 2013, 09:58:38 AM
my experience is that the duty free at CDG is no great metziah.

not good at all
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 27, 2013, 12:05:31 PM
If Eiffel is out, is there anything worth doing on a 4 hr stopover (Sunday 1-5pm)? Anything special to pick up in the airport dutyfree?
If you're flying LY and in terminal 2A, there's a red piano right after the duty-free stores you can play. I sat down and played for half an hour, a good way to pass the time if you're musically inclined.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Just Having Fun! on January 28, 2013, 12:19:12 PM
Going to Paris for an overnight in February.   :) :D ;D
Does anyone have a CHEAP & CLEAN hotel recommendation?
2 or 3 star ok.  Montmartre, 18th, 4th, Gare du Nord or anywhere close to a shul.
(In the US Motel 6 or Super 8 is ok, so I'm not looking for luxury.)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 28, 2013, 01:52:27 PM
Going to Paris for an overnight in February.   :) :D ;D
Does anyone have a CHEAP & CLEAN hotel recommendation?
2 or 3 star ok.  Montmartre, 18th, 4th, Gare du Nord or anywhere close to a shul.
(In the US Motel 6 or Super 8 is ok, so I'm not looking for luxury.)

Hotel Brittany - cheap, a little worn, but clean and i had a refurbished bathroom. Around the corner from La Victoire shul. Shaharit during the week at 7:45 (can't really daven much earlier in Paris, the sun rises late.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 28, 2013, 01:52:56 PM
Hotel Brittany - cheap, a little worn, but clean and i had a refurbished bathroom. Around the corner from La Victoire shul. Shaharit during the week at 7:45 (can't really daven much earlier in Paris, the sun rises late.

Also walking distance or a quick metro from Gare Du Nord for quick connection to CDG.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 28, 2013, 01:54:11 PM
Going to Paris for an overnight in February.   :) :D ;D
Does anyone have a CHEAP & CLEAN hotel recommendation?
2 or 3 star ok.  Montmartre, 18th, 4th, Gare du Nord or anywhere close to a shul.
(In the US Motel 6 or Super 8 is ok, so I'm not looking for luxury.)
Sign up for a hyatt cc and stay for free (or $75) at the Park Hyatt
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2013, 02:40:32 PM
Sign up for a hyatt cc and stay for free (or $75) at the Park Hyatt
And/or Sapphire, Ink, etc.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Gets on February 03, 2013, 08:42:27 AM
I'm going to Paris tomorrow, does anyone know the best way to get from the airport to the PHP
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 03, 2013, 09:12:22 AM
Roissy bus
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on February 03, 2013, 09:40:25 AM
I'm going to Paris tomorrow, does anyone know the best way to get from the airport to the PHP
Roissy bus
they sell the ticket in the airport by the terminal so when u arrive to Paris u don't have to look for one its by the gate before u board , you can't miss it the guy is asking everybody to sign up.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 03, 2013, 09:45:04 AM
they sell the ticket in the airport by the terminal so when u arrive to Paris u don't have to look for one its by the gate before u board , you can't miss it the guy is asking everybody to sign up.
I don't know what you're talking about so I guess I missed it. Either way, very easy to buy it by the bus, they have machines (although your cc may not work so have cash)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on February 03, 2013, 10:57:58 AM
From his location of holy land I would think he is leaving from bg airport .
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ari9 on February 10, 2013, 02:37:36 PM
anyone have trouble getting a crib in the standard plat award night room in the php?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on February 12, 2013, 07:07:24 PM
just read through this whole thread- How are you all figuring out directions and the metro?

Looks like places are scattered all over the districts so I have no idea what do. FYI- Flying to Paris tomorrow WITH NO research except for this thread :-X :-X
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on February 12, 2013, 07:08:04 PM
just read through this whole thread- How are you all figuring out directions and the metro?

Looks like places are scattered all over the districts so I have no idea what do. FYI- Flying to Paris tomorrow WITH NO research except for this thread :-X :-X

It's more overwhelming from over here. Once you're there its easy to ask for directions and follow the metro. Easier than it seems from all the way over here.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 12, 2013, 07:11:27 PM
just read through this whole thread- How are you all figuring out directions and the metro?

Looks like places are scattered all over the districts so I have no idea what do. FYI- Flying to Paris tomorrow WITH NO research except for this thread :-X :-X

You shoulda gotten this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0935039252?ie=UTF8&tag=pp044-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0935039252

Dan used it, and I used it on his recco. Was wnoderful.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on February 12, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
You shoulda gotten this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0935039252?ie=UTF8&tag=pp044-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0935039252

Dan used it, and I used it on his recco. Was wnoderful.
used it as well was awesome
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on February 12, 2013, 07:19:56 PM
I wouldn't be worried if I had a phone but with no phone/internet it doesent look so good.

Anyone know if Iphone has an offline map with gps directions- i.e., an offline google maps. I know android has google cache but iphone?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 12, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
You can borrow mine if you want to pick it up in NYC tomorrow.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on February 12, 2013, 08:19:20 PM
You can borrow mine if you want to pick it up in NYC tomorrow.

That would be awesome man, thanks! whereabout nyc do you work?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 12, 2013, 08:21:24 PM
That would be awesome man, thanks! whereabout nyc do you work?

I work at the McDonalds on 34th and 3rd.

I'm the big guy with the Top Chef shirt, flipping burgers.

(PM me, dude.)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on February 12, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
I work at the McDonalds on 34th and 3rd.

I'm the big guy with the Top Chef shirt, flipping burgers.

 :) :) Will PM

(PM me, dude.)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 13, 2013, 04:53:05 AM
they give out free city maps at the airport as a last resort

additionally, you can get a subway map, so as long as you know the subway stops you need to get to, its a breeze
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 13, 2013, 05:33:30 AM
get the map at the cashier

pm if you need more info (ill give you more info im in paris now)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 07, 2013, 12:35:55 AM
Are there any kosher restaurants bakeries in the walking distance of the park hyatt paris? ( im lazy to plug all the addresses into google maps)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on March 10, 2013, 10:42:56 AM
How early do you need to reserve the Park Hyatt?  I am looking for availability at the end of May and there is nothing left?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 10, 2013, 10:56:00 AM
How early do you need to reserve the Park Hyatt?  I am looking for availability at the end of May and there is nothing left?

Its a hit or miss and really depends on if the hotel will be sold out or not. Hyatt has no blackout dates so if there is an open basic room for sale then you should be able to book with points. You may want to call your gold passport line
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2013, 12:09:43 PM
How early do you need to reserve the Park Hyatt?  I am looking for availability at the end of May and there is nothing left?
Check daily, it will open eventually.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 10, 2013, 01:47:11 PM
Check daily, it will open eventually.


I wanted to stay at the park Hyatt end of march for three nights. Only two nights  were available or the standaed room ( points and chase nights) they did put me on a waiting list though. since they have 156 guest rooms in total anf they said march april is very busy ,I doubt something will open up.
I've been on the waiting list for over three weeks and nothing opened so far.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 10, 2013, 01:48:48 PM
Are there any kosher restaurants bakeries in the walking distance of the park hyatt paris?

Bump-
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on March 10, 2013, 01:49:07 PM


I wanted to stay at the park Hyatt end of march for three nights. Only two nights  were available or the standaed room ( points and chase nights) they did put me on a waiting list though. since they have 156 guest rooms in total anf they said march april is very busy ,I doubt something will open up.
I've been on the waiting list for over three weeks and nothing opened so far.


Did the Hotel or Hyatt put you on the wait list? 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2013, 02:23:30 PM


I wanted to stay at the park Hyatt end of march for three nights. Only two nights  were available or the standaed room ( points and chase nights) they did put me on a waiting list though. since they have 156 guest rooms in total anf they said march april is very busy ,I doubt something will open up.
I've been on the waiting list for over three weeks and nothing opened so far.
98% chance of it opening up, though it may not happen until within the 3 day cancellation deadline...
Have a backup plan.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 10, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
98% chance of it opening up, though it may not happen until within the 3 day cancellation deadline...
Have a backup plan.
The Hotel put me on their waiting list as Hyatt mentioned they don't do waiting lists anymore.
Since my three nights are thur fri motze Shabbis and park Hyatt  doesnt have motze Shab avail on points / chase nights, my backup plan is Hyatt Madeline. ( for Friday and motze Shabbis- since park Hyatt said they can't confirm a 8:00 pm checkout for Shabbis  untill closer to the arrival date) already booked hyatt Madeline  on points.
Hope I won't have an issue canceling either one at the last minute.

Any better ideas?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 10, 2013, 02:43:36 PM
does anyone have experience with kosher food in Disneyland Paris?
On their website it says u can order two days in advance kosher food...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on March 10, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
The Hotel put me on their waiting list as Hyatt mentioned they don't do waiting lists anymore.
Since my three nights are thur fri motze Shabbis and park Hyatt  doesnt have motze Shab avail on points / chase nights, my backup plan is Hyatt Madeline. ( for Friday and motze Shabbis- since park Hyatt said they can't confirm a 8:00 pm checkout for Shabbis  untill closer to the arrival date) already booked hyatt Madeline  on points.
Hope I won't have an issue canceling either one at the last minute.

Any better ideas?

Sorry OT but a hotel will confirm 8 PM checK out for religious reasons ?
When I was Diamond the latest I EVER AT ANY HOTEL got was 6 PM
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 10, 2013, 05:54:38 PM
Sorry OT but a hotel will confirm 8 PM checK out for religious reasons ?
When I was Diamond the latest I EVER AT ANY HOTEL got was 6 PM

Frankly I didn't say it was for "religious reasons" but either way I've had 7:30 pm checkout at the Hyatt regency in Cambridge just a few weeks ago. It never hurts to request. Park Hyatt said they can't confirm 8 pm checkout, but will try.....
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on March 10, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
 Best I ever got was 6Pm and I thought I was doing good !

  Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2013, 08:37:10 PM
Got 8pm in HR Maui for shabbos in the past.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on March 10, 2013, 09:11:32 PM
Got 8pm in HR Maui for shabbos in the past.

Did you ask for it because of religious reasons?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2013, 09:12:39 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on March 10, 2013, 09:13:21 PM
Yes.

Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mitzeahnow on March 15, 2013, 02:05:59 PM
I'm looking for 4 certificates for PHP Park Hyatt Paris
They will be used in april
thx
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 15, 2013, 02:10:33 PM
I'm looking for 4 certificates for PHP Park Hyatt Paris
They will be used in april
thx


How much you looking to spend?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on March 16, 2013, 10:00:17 PM
Check daily, it will open eventually.

Thanks Dan.  All four nights opened up over the last week ( have four separate reservations). 

Any advantage to the trial status match at this point? 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mitzeahnow on March 17, 2013, 12:41:59 AM

How much you looking to spend?

$350 for a suite
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 17, 2013, 01:37:12 AM
Thanks Dan.  All four nights opened up over the last week ( have four separate reservations). 

Any advantage to the trial status match at this point?

Free kosher breakfast
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on March 17, 2013, 05:30:06 PM
This is a massive thread and I don't have time to read through it in the next day. I will be landing in Paris at 1pm on Tuesday and leaving at 10am on Wednesday. What should I do? What trains and tickets should I buy? Do I need a hotel or can I stay out all night then head back to CDG when I get tired?

Any tips would be great!

Also can I store my luggage in the airport?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 17, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
Do you like art museums if yes go straight to the louvre if not go straight to Versailles
Never been to cdg? Do the night Segway tour. Pm me for discount code
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 17, 2013, 06:43:07 PM
yuneeq, care to wikify?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on March 17, 2013, 07:02:06 PM
yuneeq, care to wikify?

"Wikify". Love it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on March 18, 2013, 02:30:06 AM
Do you like art museums if yes go straight to the louvre if not go straight to Versailles
Never been to cdg? Do the night Segway tour. Pm me for discount code
I have never been in Paris before... I love art so I'll go to the Louvre.

What tickets/reservations should I buy before?

@Dan any restaraunt tips?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 03:02:36 AM
Darjeeling is the only upscale restaurant. It was closed when we were there in December with rumors that they may reopen.  If anyone has a status update please post!

There are hundreds of restaurants.  The locals generally don't eat the meat under Beis Din as they don't require Glatt meat.  But they will eat everything else under Beis din.

Bakery: Chez Akol, Boulanger Bio, Charles Traiteur all in the 19th were all outstanding.
Milk Chocolate: Ardely’s in the 19th is excellent.
Dark Chocolate: Damyel’s in the 19th is good.
Felafel: L’As Du Fallafel in the Marais (4th) is outstanding. It's only Beis Din so stick to the Felafel.
Dairy: L’Inte Cafe or Il Conte in the 8th are walkable to the Park Hyatt and the Champs Elysses and are very good.
Pizza: Pitzman in the Marais has gone downhill in my opinion but used to be excellent.
Chinese: Le Shine in the 17th near the Arc is good.
Steak/French Cuisine: I'm unaware of anything Mehadrin that's worth going to. Please CMIIW.
Dessert: La Marina in the 19th has a Farandole dessert which is a treat. The food there and next-door at Tib's is meh at best.

For activities from 1pm-10am on a Tuesday for an art lover I'd say go to D'Orsay when you arrive and the Eiffel Tower at night.  Perhaps walk the Champs Elysses, take a pic with the Arc, and eat dinner at Le Shine in between (assuming you're sick of Felafel and dairy already and that Darjeeling isn't open)

Don't forget the subway is great but closes at 1am.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 07:28:40 AM
D'orsay over the Louvre? Definitely go to the Eiffel tower at night. For someone there for such a short time, Segways are a great way to see the city
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mitzeahnow on March 18, 2013, 08:23:49 AM
Anybody know if ill have a problem using Hyatt
Certificates at php for a 4 night stay
But the certificates will be from two different
People.
Or anybody have a good idea how to get it done smoothly
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on March 18, 2013, 09:09:42 AM
Segways are a great way to see the city
Segways are always a lot of fun no matter which city you are in unless it is NCY.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 09:11:41 AM
Segways are always a lot of fun no matter which city you are in unless it is NCY.
Very true
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on March 18, 2013, 09:15:58 AM
Anybody know if ill have a problem using Hyatt
Certificates at php for a 4 night stay
But the certificates will be from two different
People.
Or anybody have a good idea how to get it done smoothly


Make 2 consecutive reservations on 2 browsers and then call the Hyatt Gold line to combine into one
itinerary.  I did it and so did many others . Or call the Gold line and ask them to do it for you
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 18, 2013, 11:18:02 AM

Make 2 consecutive reservations on 2 browsers and then call the Hyatt Gold line to combine into one
itinerary.  I did it and so did many others . Or call the Gold line and ask them to do it for you

With 2 nights from two different people?

So person A can use person B's 2 nights and person C's 2 nights and combine them into one reservation?  ???
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 18, 2013, 11:44:09 AM
D'orsay over the Louvre? Definitely go to the Eiffel tower at night. For someone there for such a short time, Segways are a great way to see the city

I preferred the art in the Orsay over the Louvre - that's just my 2 cents though.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 11:44:47 AM
D'orsay over the Louvre? Definitely go to the Eiffel tower at night. For someone there for such a short time, Segways are a great way to see the city
1. Night segways don't start until 04/01 and he won't make the 2pm tour.
2. The Louvre is closed on Tuesday. Not the D'Orsay is sloppy seconds though, it's the #1 ranked activity according to TA reviewers. (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g187147-d188150-Reviews-Musee_d_Orsay-Paris_Ile_de_France.html) The Louvre is 6.
3. It would really be pushing it to go to Versailles with a 1pm arrival into CDG, for an art lover I think D'Orsay makes more sense as you'll have more time there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 18, 2013, 11:59:26 AM
1. Night segways don't start until 04/01 and he won't make the 2pm tour.
2. The Louvre is closed on Tuesday. Not the D'Orsay is sloppy seconds though, it's the #1 ranked activity according to TA reviewers. (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g187147-d188150-Reviews-Musee_d_Orsay-Paris_Ile_de_France.html) The Louvre is 6.
3. It would really be pushing it to go to Versailles with a 1pm arrival into CDG, for an art lover I think D'Orsay makes more sense as you'll have more time there.

One more thing - a great resource for Paris is Rick Steves.  His guide book for Paris is excellent and I think in the back it has some 1-day tour ideas also.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 18, 2013, 12:03:19 PM
One more thing - a great resource for Paris is Rick Steves.  His guide book for Paris is excellent and I think in the back it has some 1-day tour ideas also.

Just came to this thread to ask exactly that...which book is helpful. Is it good with directions? (Walking and subway)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 12:06:44 PM
Just came to this thread to ask exactly that...which book is helpful. Is it good with directions? (Walking and subway)
For subway and walking, just get the map linked above. Awesome resource
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on March 18, 2013, 12:08:26 PM
For subway and walking, just get the map linked above. Awesome resource
+100000
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 12:09:10 PM
1. Night segways don't start until 04/01 and he won't make the 2pm tour.
2. The Louvre is closed on Tuesday. Not the D'Orsay is sloppy seconds though, it's the #1 ranked activity according to TA reviewers. (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g187147-d188150-Reviews-Musee_d_Orsay-Paris_Ile_de_France.html) The Louvre is 6.
3. It would really be pushing it to go to Versailles with a 1pm arrival into CDG, for an art lover I think D'Orsay makes more sense as you'll have more time there.
1. My bad
2. My bad
3. I think you'd be fine time wise but for an art lover I agree i would the D'Orsay makes more sense
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 12:09:58 PM
Started a wiki. Please contribute!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 12:12:37 PM
1. My bad
2. My bad
3. I think you'd be fine time wise but for an art lover I agree i would the D'Orsay makes more sense
I didn't research it, but just looking at them on a map I'd assume you would need 2 hours to get from CDG to Versailles via public transport.  Add at least an hour to clear immigration, collect luggage, find a place to store luggage.  I don't think he would get there before 4:30 and the last admission is 4:45. Would be tight and only recommended to someone who doesn't like Art.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 12:18:26 PM
I didn't research it, but just looking at them on a map I'd assume you would need 2 hours to get from CDG to Versailles via public transport.  Add at least an hour to clear immigration, collect luggage, find a place to store luggage.  I don't think he would get there before 4:30 and the last admission is 4:45. Would be tight and only recommended to someone who doesn't like Art.
I would rent a car in that scenario and you'd have plenty of time
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 12:21:59 PM
I would rent a car in that scenario and you'd have plenty of time
Considering he's planning on camping out in CDG for the night ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 12:24:36 PM
Considering he's planning on camping out in CDG for the night ;)
#25dollaravisfreedaypass cheaper than trains
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 18, 2013, 12:36:57 PM
Started a wiki. Please contribute!
Just added a couple items.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 12:54:31 PM
#25dollaravisfreedaypass cheaper than trains
Why do you think Avis vouchers work in CDG?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 01:03:04 PM
Why do you think Avis vouchers work in CDG?
Or Hertz. Why wouldn't they?

See the new thread selling, valid in Europe. I used in zrh
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 01:07:11 PM
Added more wiki info.
I wish every city would have a good wiki, really a much better format than a 57 page thread.  If you've been somewhere then help contribute so the net guy won't have to waste time researching what you already know  :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on March 18, 2013, 02:00:06 PM
1. Night segways don't start until 04/01 and he won't make the 2pm tour.
2. The Louvre is closed on Tuesday. Not the D'Orsay is sloppy seconds though, it's the #1 ranked activity according to TA reviewers. (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g187147-d188150-Reviews-Musee_d_Orsay-Paris_Ile_de_France.html) The Louvre is 6.
3. It would really be pushing it to go to Versailles with a 1pm arrival into CDG, for an art lover I think D'Orsay makes more sense as you'll have more time there.
+1
I second the Orsay, it's fantastic. Versailles will be a schlep.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 02:01:45 PM
I wish every city would have a good wiki, really a much better format than a 57 page thread.  If you've been somewhere then help contribute so the net guy won't have to waste time researching what you already know  :)
+1
It's hard to start a wiki. If there is a template there already I think people are more likely to add

Just added a couple items.
+1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 18, 2013, 02:20:04 PM
Added a link to my TR.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 18, 2013, 04:58:18 PM
#25dollaravisfreedaypass cheaper than trains

enter your information in this website to get a corporate code for europcar in france
http://corporateloubavitch.com/
you will the code in a couple of hours
its much cheaper!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2013, 05:18:28 PM
enter your information in this website to get a corporate code for europcar in france
http://corporateloubavitch.com/
you will the code in a couple of hours
its much cheaper!
Any update on Darjeeling or other mehadrin meat restaurants in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 18, 2013, 05:30:00 PM
Any update on Darjeeling or other mehadrin meat restaurants in Paris?

darjeeling: on there website it says that it's opened i'll call tomorrow to found out
and other mehadrin i didnt hear anything yet
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 18, 2013, 10:04:58 PM
Whats the best ticket to buy for versailles? So many options what is all inclusive?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on March 18, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
You want access to the palace and the gardens
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 19, 2013, 06:32:37 AM
just spoked to darjeeling they told me they reopening next month iyh
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 19, 2013, 11:46:19 AM
just spoked to darjeeling they told me they reopening next month iyh
Cool, keep us posted :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on March 19, 2013, 11:59:29 AM
just spoked to darjeeling they told me they reopening next month iyh
Did they give you a date ?
I'm going to paris in the middle of April iyh
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 19, 2013, 01:06:04 PM
Did they give you a date ?
I'm going to paris in the middle of April iyh

they don't know exactly when next month
they finished the work now they have to finish the furniture

PM me a week before you come ill call them again
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mitzeahnow on March 19, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
With 2 nights from two different people?

So person A can use person B's 2 nights and person C's 2 nights and combine them into one reservation?  ???

+1 anybody have experience
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on March 20, 2013, 12:15:23 AM
I would rent a car in that scenario and you'd have plenty of time
Assuming parking isn't through the roof pricing then I wish I had rented a car.

Baggage drop was 15 eruro a bag. Train tickets were another 20+ Euro. So that's already over 50 Euro and a car would have been way more convenient. Plus I could have slept in it. But gas is expensive also, so I'm not sure...

Paris is such an expensive city.

Musee di'orsee was phenomenal! Thanks for the help everyone! I also saw the Louvre, Eiffel tower, the arc and some nice areas I can't recall the names of.

 I went to steak and soda for dinner with an extremely nice couple I met on their honey moon. They served a good selection of dips with heated up bakery bought pita and baguette. I would have liked to get full on those dips cuz the Burger I ordered was dry and tasteless. The fries were decent though. One of the couple ordered the steak and was pretty disappointed.

I got a small taste of Paris. I was not too impressed by the city felt more like NY than an old European town, but I only went around for about 10 hours. I deffinitley do not feel like I covered the city at all and will need to come back with more time to finish it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 12:20:51 AM
It took a good couple days for "Paris" to really set in on us.
For the first couple days we weren't impressed.  Over the next couple we began to love it.

Dunno why, not sure of any other places like that.

Should've hit up Le Shine as I said ;)

Parking is a fortune from what I understand, as is gas. And traffic can be bad as well.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on March 20, 2013, 12:22:56 AM
It took a good couple days for "Paris" to really set in on us.
For the first couple days we weren't impressed.  Over the next couple we began to love it.

Dunno why, not sure of any other places like that.


same here my wife is begging to go back
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on March 20, 2013, 12:37:55 AM
It took a good couple days for "Paris" to really set in on us.
For the first couple days we weren't impressed.  Over the next couple we began to love it.

Dunno why, not sure of any other places like that.

Should've hit up Le Shine as I said ;)

Parking is a fortune from what I understand, as is gas. And traffic can be bad as well.
Honestly chilling with the couple was a highlight of my day. And I didn't know the address to LeShine... They paid the cab to a kosher mehadrin min'hamihadrin restaurant so I was in...

Also a funny story was that in di'orsee I was taking pictures of paintings as I read on trip advisor they allow without flash. A guard comes over to me screaming in french. I stare at him blankly repeating in my most american accent I do not speak french. He continued telling me off until he said Merci and walked away, all the anglopholes around me were cracking up.


Like I said I didn't cover very much of the city and I will definitely return one day.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sy guy on March 20, 2013, 10:43:54 AM
Does the PH Paris have a fridge in the room? Will be there late April for Shabbat and may want to make sure we are stocked with food we pick up Friday. Its a LONG Shabbat. Any recommendations for picking up glatt cold cuts, baguettes, etc, for Shabbat lunch are appreciated. Also when the kosher restaurants/stores close on Friday when Shabbat starts around 8:30pm.
Whats the best way to stretch the one free suite night I have left from my Hyatt signups + points (will need to transfer from UR) to get the same suite for three nights? Currently have Fri Night confirmed in a suite using the Hyatt signup.

Thank
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 20, 2013, 11:01:43 AM
Any recommendations for picking up glatt cold cuts, baguettes, etc, for Shabbat lunch are appreciated. Also when the kosher restaurants/stores close on Friday when Shabbat starts around 8:30pm.
Whats the best way to stretch the one free suite night I have left from my Hyatt signups + points (will need to transfer from UR) to get the same suite for three nights?

in the 19th at Rue petit you have many glatt kosher stores where you could buy every thing you need


when the kosher restaurants/stores close on Friday when Shabbat starts around 8:30pm.

around 3 usualy
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 11:46:18 AM
Why not eat shabbos lunch in a shul??
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on March 20, 2013, 11:47:37 AM
Why not eat shabbos lunch in a shul??
some people dont like that. Me and my wife being two of them. When we were in paris we picked up food and ate at the hotel
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sy guy on March 20, 2013, 12:00:26 PM
Not our speed. Any answer re the fridge?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on March 20, 2013, 12:01:45 PM
Not our speed. Any answer re the fridge?
i dont remember if it had one or we asked for one but we definitely got a small mini fridge
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2013, 12:26:37 PM
We ate at the shul friday night (when we could take a subway there), but shabbas morning, we didn't want to shlep, so we davened at the great synagogue, had a big kiddush and then ate stuff we bought on friday for lunch in the hotel room. Was quite relaxing.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 01:03:04 PM
There's a small mini-fridge in the room. Won't fit a whole shabbos meal so ask if they can get another.

Frankly the shul experience was very nice for us. We met other really cool couples (one made wine!) and shared fun tips.  Plus the food was good and the 30 minute walk down the champs elysses/tuileries gardens was amazing.

I get the enjoyment of doing your own thing, but you really miss a lot.  I've been to plenty of places where we did our own thing for shabbos in the hotel (Sydney, Hawaii, etc when it wasn't practical to find a shul) but never are those as memorable as mixing with the locals in places like Melbourne, Hong Kong, Sinagpore, Venice, Buenos Aires, Paris, etc and forcing yourself to meet new people and learn new things.  For me it's a huge part of the travel experience and it's a shame to miss out on that IMHO.
Good hot food never hurts either ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sy guy on March 20, 2013, 01:35:50 PM
Dan - your perspective is appreciated.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2013, 01:36:35 PM
I agree -- but that's why we did the Chabad shul on Friday night (subway there, amazing people and food, and fantastic walk back), and the Great Synagogue on shabbas day (great kiddush, more and different people, AND some alone time).

Got the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 20, 2013, 01:37:44 PM
I agree -- but that's why we did the Chabad shul on Friday night (subway there, amazing people and food, and fantastic walk back), and the Great Synagogue on shabbas day (great kiddush, more and different people, AND some alone time).

Got the best of both worlds.

I loved the Great Synagogue. A really beautiful shul to visit.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 01:42:13 PM
I agree -- but that's why we did the Chabad shul on Friday night (subway there, amazing people and food, and fantastic walk back), and the Great Synagogue on shabbas day (great kiddush, more and different people, AND some alone time).

Got the best of both worlds.
No shame in that.
Was the kiddush a full lunch?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on March 20, 2013, 01:42:51 PM
No shame in that.
Was the kiddush a full lunch?
when i was there it was not
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 01:44:13 PM
Anyone here ever stay at the Intercontinental Le Grand?   Don't have enough points for the Hyatt and don't want to have to switch hotels in the middle.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2013, 01:48:18 PM
No shame in that.
Was the kiddush a full lunch?

Nope. Nice, nonetheless.

Anyone here ever stay at the Intercontinental Le Grand?   Don't have enough points for the Hyatt and don't want to have to switch hotels in the middle.

I did -- very nice hotel. We did two nights in PHP and 2 nights there. Much larger than the PHP.

I believe I discuss it in my TR.

ETA:

Saturday night:

Because we weren’t able to secure more than two nights at the PHP, we had to look for another option. A special thanks to E for suggesting--and then helping out with the reservations to—the Intercontinental Le Grand, a 45 second walk from the PHP. At about 6:00 PM we checked out of the PHP and walked to the Intercontinental Le Grand. Initially, while checking in, the agent balked at upgrading us. After a bit of sweet talking, he upgraded us to a junior suite. The room, if paid for, would have been ~$840/night. Suffice it to say, we got a 5.6cpm redemption.

There is an entirely different feel to the Le Grand than the PHP. Whereas the PHP is subdued and somewhat secluded, the Le Grand is and splashy and stately. To give you a bit of perspective, each floor of rooms has >1km of hallways, and our room was, at least to us, enormous. The bathroom was about twice the size of the room at the PHP, though you have to keep in mind we did not have a suite at the PHP, so it’s a bit like comparing apples and oranges.  The Le Grand, although service oriented, was not as “overbearing” as the PHP and we found that we liked the Le Grand’s approach slightly better. Also worth noting is that there was no hot tub or sauna at the Le Grand. All told, we absolutely stay here again.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 01:56:17 PM
Nope. Nice, nonetheless.
I suppose, but I'd still probably go for the full lunch and daytime walk down the champs-elysses and tuileries gardens.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 01:58:01 PM
Nope. Nice, nonetheless.

I did -- very nice hotel. We did two nights in PHP and 2 nights there. Much larger than the PHP.

I believe I discuss it in my TR.

ETA:

Thanks!! Glad to hear.... It looks a bit interesting and worn from pics online but I have read some good reviews and now this settles my concerns.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 02:02:19 PM
don't want to have to switch hotels in the middle.
Is switching hotels that bad?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 20, 2013, 02:05:58 PM
i would recommend you to go friday night to chabad of champs elysée don't worry you won't regret it there is alot of peoples
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 02:06:16 PM
Is switching hotels that bad?

Nope. I would do it.  My party wouldn't enjoy it that much. And it takes time out of your days and packing up and all that. The truth is with the Intercontinental and PHP so close to each other I might end up doing it anyways.  On one hand I'd rather stay at the PHP and save my PC points for places without Hyatts. On the other hand.... I'd rather use my Hyatt nights other places. Sometimes I like having a nicer hotel. When visiting Paris I'm pretty happy with any location/hotel. I'll hardly be in the room (except for Shabbos).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 02:06:46 PM
Nope. Nice, nonetheless.

I did -- very nice hotel. We did two nights in PHP and 2 nights there. Much larger than the PHP.

I believe I discuss it in my TR.

ETA:

Does the IC Le grand have electronic keys?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2013, 02:10:59 PM
Nope. I would do it.  My party wouldn't enjoy it that much. And it takes time out of your days and packing up and all that. The truth is with the Intercontinental and PHP so close to each other I might end up doing it anyways.  On one hand I'd rather stay at the PHP and save my PC points for places without Hyatts. On the other hand.... I'd rather use my Hyatt nights other places. Sometimes I like having a nicer hotel. When visiting Paris I'm pretty happy with any location/hotel. I'll hardly be in the room (except for Shabbos).

60 second walk. The whole process of switching would take an hour if your slow.

Does the IC Le grand have electronic keys?

Yes IIRC.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sy guy on March 20, 2013, 03:06:41 PM
What is the key/room lights situation at the PHP on Shabbat?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 03:11:51 PM
What is the key/room lights situation at the PHP on Shabbat?
Same as any other hotel.
I just tape down the lock, put on the DND sign, and lock valuables in the safe.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 03:14:53 PM
Same as any other hotel.
I just tape down the lock, put on the DND sign, and lock valuables in the safe.


Certain places (like Kauai) I just stayed in Shabbos and left a couple hours before Shabbos ended.
Other hotels I've stayed in have opened the doors for me.

Have yet to just leave a room with the door open.

Maybe this summer. It does seem pretty convenient though.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 03:20:38 PM
Certain places (like Kauai) I just stayed in Shabbos and left a couple hours before Shabbos ended.
Sounds awful.  A night and day in paradise and you're trapped in a room?

Other hotels I've stayed in have opened the doors for me.
Complicated halachas there.

Have yet to just leave a room with the door open.

Maybe this summer. It does seem pretty convenient though.
I've done it dozens of times without issue.  Lock your wallet, computer, phone, camera, passport in the safe and what's the worst case scenario? I don't think anyone's trying to steal clothes.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 03:49:43 PM
Sounds awful.  A night and day in paradise and you're trapped in a room?


It wasn't awful at all. Friday night we were all zonked and went to sleep. Shabbos morning we awoke in our suite facing the ocean ...
After lunch we relaxed a bit and then left the room until after Shabbos.




Complicated halachas there.


Agreed.


As for leaving the door open I always want to but I grew up in a house where the door was never left unlocked and you didn't trust safes etc etc. It's drilled into my head that way. (The stuff we inherit from our parents)
And while I do believe it's better to be safe than sorry I do hope to travel more and I think I just may have to try out your tape on the door.

Except I'm still pretty paranoid. I'd probably hide my passport and wallet in a random place in the room.   :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 04:17:39 PM
You can deadbolt it at night. It's just your clothes during the day when you're out.
I don't see why not to trust the safe.

Then again I'm from Beachwood. Where most house and car doors are probably unlocked anyway...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
You can deadbolt it at night. It's just your clothes during the day when you're out.
I don't see why not to trust the safe.

Then again I'm from Beachwood. Where most house and car doors are probably unlocked anyway...

Unfortunately I don't live in the safest place in the midwest.


Anyone know where the safest frum community is in the US?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 04:25:05 PM
Anyone know where the safest frum community is in the US?
I have never heard of any crime in Beachwood's jewish community.  It would be the talk of town if anything like that came up.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 04:46:46 PM
I have never heard of any crime in Beachwood's jewish community.  It would be the talk of town if anything like that came up.
Do people/kids walk around outdoors at night?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on March 20, 2013, 04:48:42 PM
Do people/kids walk around outdoors at night?

without any worry. 10pm, 12am, 2am all just as safe and calm.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2013, 04:52:45 PM
without any worry. 10pm, 12am, 2am all just as safe and calm.

I'm on my way.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 22, 2013, 02:30:42 AM
Has anyone eaten shabbis with chabad right next to PHP?
Also what restaurants are open till late friday afternoon and motze shabbis/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 22, 2013, 03:38:24 AM
Has anyone eaten shabbis with chabad right next to PHP?
Also what restaurants are open till late friday afternoon and motze shabbis/

this friday they will all be open
but after pesach friday till 3pm and motzai shabbos usually close
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on March 22, 2013, 05:04:20 AM
Which restaurant ( not bakery)
Need lunch this afternoon
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 22, 2013, 07:40:06 AM
Go to the 19th tibs marina
They open
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 04, 2013, 12:11:33 PM
ok daniel, im going to start asking here, now that i know a bit more.

what is the adv of taking the RoissyBus  over the subway? since i am only going for 12 hrs it prob makes sense to just take the subway straight to paris. am i correct?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 04, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
ok daniel, im going to start asking here, now that i know a bit more.

what is the adv of taking the RoissyBus  over the subway? since i am only going for 12 hrs it prob makes sense to just take the subway straight to paris. am i correct?


for sure
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 04, 2013, 02:44:23 PM
for sure
thanks so much!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on April 08, 2013, 12:12:41 PM
When is the best time to ascend the Eiffel tour, daytime or sunset ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 08, 2013, 12:14:52 PM
When is the best time to ascend the Eiffel tour, daytime or sunset ?
Just before sunset to see both daytime/nighttime.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on April 08, 2013, 12:29:02 PM
Thanks Dan
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 08, 2013, 03:25:01 PM
I've been reading up and it seems some people have a hard time using CC in pairs. Why is that?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on April 08, 2013, 03:28:18 PM
Is L’As Du Fallafel - Glatt?  Dan you mentioned that you  ate there and you  seem to only eat glatt.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 08, 2013, 03:56:05 PM
I only ate the felafel there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 08, 2013, 04:07:18 PM
I've been reading up and it seems some people have a hard time using CC in pairs. Why is that?

Automated CC readers in the EU require chip and pin (GIYF). Most US-based credits do not have the pin.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 08, 2013, 04:09:57 PM
Automated CC readers in the EU require chip and pin (GIYF). Most US-based credits do not have the pin.

Can you get a pin from US based card?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 08, 2013, 04:31:15 PM
Automated CC readers in the EU require chip and pin (GIYF). Most US-based credits do not have the pin.
what about my Hyatt card? Or plat?

Eta: No one says specifically which cards are good. Everyone says, cards are accepted but in order to get metro tickets you need one with a chip..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 08, 2013, 04:32:20 PM
Can you get a pin from US based card?

Not sure (I'm sure GIYF), but you can get a Chip and Signature (e.g. Chase BA), which apparently some have had success with in Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 08, 2013, 05:04:28 PM
Most retailers in Europe could swipe your CC if you do not have a chip. I've had to show a kid serving in a pizza store how to swipe a card on the side of the machine.

The problem lies with automated vendors ie. Metro tickets, where the only way to pay is by chip and pin. That is where most people run into issues.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 08, 2013, 05:21:35 PM
Chase claims chip and sig works everywhere.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 08, 2013, 05:50:05 PM
Chase claims chip and sig works everywhere.

And there are some reports of that...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 08, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
Chase claims chip and sig works everywhere.
how do i know which base cards have chips besides the BA card?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 08, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
how do i know which base cards have chips besides the BA card?

Hyatt does. PC does.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 08, 2013, 06:49:23 PM
Hyatt does. PC does.
thanks a million! 

Where is there a place to leave your carry ons on a stopover flight? Is there a service in the AA lounge? I have plat, UA Club, PP, and a united pass
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 08, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
My BA and Hyatt card didn't work with the machines selling train tickets. I had to go to the desk.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 08, 2013, 06:57:03 PM
My BA and Hyatt card didn't work with the machines selling train tickets. I had to go to the desk.
is that bec u didnt tell ur bank you were going out if the country?

Dan, any input?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 08, 2013, 07:09:46 PM
is that bec u didnt tell ur bank you were going out if the country?

Dan, any input?

+1 has anyone had any experience using their CCs at the ticket machine? Bike rentals?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 08, 2013, 07:11:43 PM
is that bec u didnt tell ur bank you were going out if the country?

Dan, any input?
Could be. But it worked by the ticket office, so I doubt it.

+1 has anyone had any experience using their CCs at the ticket machine? Bike rentals?
Like I said I tried in Paris and it wasn't recognised. Could be that machiene wasn't working but seemed like a lot of tourists were having problems. In Zurich my BA card did work at the machiene.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 08, 2013, 07:24:41 PM
Could be. But it worked by the ticket office, so I doubt it.
 Like I said I tried in Paris and it wasn't recognised. Could be that machiene wasn't working but seemed like a lot of tourists were having problems. In Zurich my BA card did work at the machiene.

Quite annoying. I was looking forward to renting bikes this summer in Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 08, 2013, 07:30:47 PM
Quite annoying. I was looking forward to renting bikes this summer in Paris.
Not staying in php?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 08, 2013, 07:31:01 PM
Not staying in php?

Nope. Not that that would help anyways. I like the idea of taking a bike one place and dropping it off at another.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 08, 2013, 07:32:49 PM
Quite annoying. I was looking forward to renting bikes this summer in Paris.
I'm sure the trains and bikes are different systems. Plus if it doesn't work I'm sure Chase will give you some compensation.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 08, 2013, 07:38:01 PM
I'm sure the trains and bikes are different systems. Plus if it doesn't work I'm sure Chase will give you some compensation.

Compensation is nice but I still want to bike around Paris.:)  Last time I was there I had no cards with chips. Guess well see what happens.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on April 08, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
Anyone know if Darjeeling reopened yet ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 08, 2013, 08:16:04 PM
Anyone know if Darjeeling reopened yet ?

No word yet.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 08, 2013, 08:33:48 PM
Anyone know if Darjeeling reopened yet ?
this is a message from menuol last week. t

hey told me they still dont know when they reopening i should call back around the 12th they will propably know then
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on April 08, 2013, 09:42:20 PM
I guess I will find out next week when I'm there
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on April 09, 2013, 08:43:50 AM
Do US cell phones work in Paris?  Are there crazy roaming charges?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 09:42:02 AM
Do US cell phones work in Paris?  Are there crazy roaming charges?

Depends what carrier. Yes.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 10:43:38 AM
is it just worth it to take the hop on hop off bus? i know its a bit expensive but i really cant figure out paris, not to many people have to many answers (sorry)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 10:46:27 AM
is it just worth it to take the hop on hop off bus? i know its a bit expensive but i really cant figure out paris, not to many people have to many answers (sorry)

It's hard to figure out until you're there IMO.  I think at the end of the day with the locations you're going you'll manage with the subway.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 10:47:42 AM
It's hard to figure out until you're there IMO.  I think at the end of the day with the locations you're going you'll manage with the subway.
thats what i was just thinking. both ill figure it out there and do the subway or even with taxi, i just dont know the order bec its a bit confusing. in addition, i still cant figure out where to eat  ;D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 09, 2013, 10:57:15 AM
thats what i was just thinking. both ill figure it out there and do the subway or even with taxi, i just dont know the order bec its a bit confusing. in addition, i still cant figure out where to eat  ;D
Ask the transportation CS desk in the airport for a subway map and to circle all your destinations, then in the subway station look for anyone in uniform (ever train has a few at least) and just point to the destination and ask which train.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on April 09, 2013, 11:02:13 AM
Depends what carrier. Yes.

Thanks! So what do most DD readers do for cell phones when in Paris? 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 11:03:56 AM
Ask the transportation CS desk in the airport for a subway map and to circle all your destinations, then in the subway station look for anyone in uniform (ever train has a few at least) and just point to the destination and ask which train.
thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 01:07:05 PM
darjeling will only reopen in may!
(its open for delivery if you want)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 01:12:43 PM
darjeling will only reopen in may!
(its open for delivery if you want)

Nice!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2013, 01:56:05 PM
Anyone know why they closed?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 01:57:15 PM
Renovation was what I was told.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 02:00:02 PM
Renovation was what I was told.

Makes sense if they are closed but still taking delivery orders.

Is Darjeeling a great place to eat? OR just the only place to eat?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
Makes sense if they are closed but still taking delivery orders.

Is Darjeeling a great place to eat? OR just the only place to eat?
Never been unfortunately. Though it does seem to be the only high class mehadrin fleishig place in Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
Food was tasty... and expensive.

Also, ambience was terrible, so I'm happy they're renovating -- hopefully that will address the crowdedness whereby other Parisians ate on your lap with you.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
so it seems like for lunch im pitzman but i just realized le shine only opens at 7 pm
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 02:53:54 PM
i just realized le shine only opens at 7 pm
They served us in between lunch and dinner even though officially they were closed.
YMMV? PUTPAC?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 02:54:53 PM
so it seems like for lunch im pitzman
I'd find a nice michig place (L'inte and Il Conte were both nice though there are dozens more I haven't tried) before Pitzman.
We were very disappointed in Pitzman this time...such a let down.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 09, 2013, 03:21:03 PM
try tibs
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 03:22:25 PM
They served us in between lunch and dinner even though officially they were closed.
YMMV? PUTPAC?
I will def call, thanks. you wrote one of the times you were very happy with pitzman.
I'd find a nice michig place (L'inte and Il Conte were both nice though there are dozens more I haven't tried) before Pitzman.
We were very disappointed in Pitzman this time...such a let down.
thanks again. those 2 are not realy close to any main attractions,
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 03:23:46 PM
try tibs
-1, IMHO.

those 2 are not realy close to any main attractions,
They're both walkable to the Champs and Arc.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 03:26:10 PM
-1, IMHO.
They're both walkable to the Champs and Arc.
ohhhhhhh. Ok. That's good to know. From what i see though supposed to rain tom there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 03:28:38 PM
ohhhhhhh. Ok. That's good to know. From what i see though supposed to rain tom there.
Nothing that a raincoat and rain cover for a stroller can't help with.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 09, 2013, 03:29:22 PM
Nothing that a raincoat and rain cover for a stroller can't help with.
+1 it was raining when I was there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 09, 2013, 03:31:54 PM
-1, IMHO.
They're both walkable to the Champs and Arc.
yes we all know u had a bad experience there but not everybody had that bad experience .
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 03:34:35 PM
yes we all know u had a bad experience there but not everybody had that bad experience .
Perhaps you missed the capitalized IMHO.

Also there are several reports of very positive or very mediocre reviews of Pitzman in this thread. Same goes for the PHP.

Indeed I can confirm it's not just based on the person as I've had an awesome and mediocre experience at both.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 03:37:52 PM
yes we all know u had a bad experience there but not everybody had that bad experience .
most of the people i speak to do not have great expirences.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 03:43:58 PM
most of the people i speak to do not have great expirences.
My opinion is that both Pitzman and the PHP went downhill over the past few years.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 09, 2013, 03:47:09 PM
My opinion is that both Pitzman and the PHP went downhill over the past few years.
i guess so did tibs
 btw which tibs did you go to they have 3 locations?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
i guess so did tibs
 btw which tibs did you go to they have 3 locations?

there is one in the champs elysée erea
and one in the 19th where all the kosher shops are
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 09, 2013, 03:58:05 PM
if i remember correctly the have one in the 12 ,17 ,19  arrondissement
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 04:00:16 PM
if i remember correctly the have one in the 12 ,17 ,19  arrondissement

right the 17th is close from the champs elysée
and 19th is next to the other kosher restaurent (marina, la suite...)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 04:00:50 PM
la suite
What's that?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 04:03:28 PM
What's that?
a new milchike place the same style than tibs they have original things
(camembert roti au miel, etc..)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 04:05:48 PM
a new milchike place the same style than tibs they have original things
(camembert roti au miel, etc..)
any good?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 04:08:33 PM
any good?

its original
you could allways go to there and look, if you not intrested you walk to the tibs (2min)

when you comming to france?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 04:14:38 PM
a new milchike place the same style than tibs they have original things
(camembert roti au miel, etc..)
Cool!

any good?
Not near any tourist stuff but all of the awesome french bakeries and chocolatiers are in the 19th.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 09, 2013, 04:16:11 PM


when you comming to france?
sounds like he's either there know or making a day stop over for tomorrow
ohhhhhhh. Ok. That's good to know. From what i see though supposed to rain tom there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 04:17:04 PM
http://www.mangercacher.com/restaurant-cacher/la_suite.php
http://www.123cacher.com/fr/restaurant_cacher/lasuite.html
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 04:18:18 PM
http://www.mangercacher.com/restaurant-cacher/la_suite.php
http://www.123cacher.com/fr/restaurant_cacher/lasuite.html

+1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 04:31:27 PM
its original
you could allways go to there and look, if you not intrested you walk to the tibs (2min)

when you comming to france?
ya. Im there just tom. DO? :-)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 04:32:48 PM
ya. Im there just tom. DO? :-)

Pm me for questions
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
My wife and I loved tibs, FWIW.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 04:36:30 PM
My wife and I loved tibs, FWIW.
19th?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2013, 05:02:02 PM
19th?

Yep.

ETA:

After checking in, we hopped on the metro back to Le Marais in the 4th district with plans to eat at Pitzman. Unfortunately, though, Pitzman’s was closed. (Mind-boggling, really – why is a pizza store closed on Motzei Shabbas?) Improvising a bit, we hopped back on the metro and went to Tib’s for the main course and La Marina for dessert. We thought Tib’s had fantastic food with super-fast service. When we asked our waiter what ”champaignons” were, he actually went to the back and brought us back some sliced mushrooms. Keeping in mind what was coming next, we only ordered two mains: a crepe filled with mushrooms and cream, topped with cheese and then baked, and a pizza with tomato, olives, mushrooms, onions, and tuna. We also ordered a chocolate milkshake which was apparently made with European chocolate and was the best milkshake we’ve ever tasted.

When finished, we walked 50 feet down the street to La Marina and had the famed “Farandole” dessert raved about by Dan. It truly was good, and so big that we weren’t able to finish the whole thing. After we paid, we hopped back on the metro and went back to the Le Grand for the night.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 05:07:27 PM
I think it would be great if we can all start adding to the thread what stop at the metro to get off of for various places in Paris.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 05:08:10 PM
I think it would be great if we can all start adding to the thread what stop at the metro to get off of for various places in Paris.



+1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2013, 05:15:17 PM
I think it would be great if we can all start adding to the thread what stop at the metro to get off of for various places in Paris.

With the map that's been suggested, it isn't that difficult to discern...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 05:23:25 PM
With the map that's been suggested, it isn't that difficult to discern...

It would just be easier for everyone to piece together their itineraries.  Especially those coming in for the day.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 05:39:11 PM
just did for the restaurents
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2013, 05:55:48 PM
just did for the restaurents

Thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on April 09, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
FWiW we loved Il conte
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
just did for the restaurents

Awesome- THANKS!!


Anyway you could add the districts as well?


  Either way, thanks! Very helpful.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 07:00:03 PM
Thanks a million
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 09, 2013, 07:07:09 PM

Anyway you could add the districts

Done :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 09, 2013, 07:07:40 PM
Done :)

You rock.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 09, 2013, 07:41:31 PM
Done :)
so which district is a general place for kosher food, 4?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2013, 10:28:51 PM
so which district is a general place for kosher food, 4?
19 probably has the most.
There's just a small handful in the Pletzel in 4. Pitzman/Felafel/Korcarz/Mickeys.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 10, 2013, 02:07:23 PM
19 probably has the most.
There's just a small handful in the Pletzel in 4. Pitzman/Felafel/Korcarz/Mickeys.
i would like to thank Ergal, Dan, Mendoul, Ajk, Sky121, mayb821.

Sitting in the AA Lounge. And day is over ish (till they close the lounge at 9). TR will be done when i get back to the holy land tom. It def was a nice trip!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 10, 2013, 02:08:29 PM
i would like to thank Ergal, Dan, Mendoul, Ajk, Sky121, mayb821.

Sitting in the AA Lounge. And day is over ish (till they close the lounge at 9). TR will be done when i get back to the holy land tom. It def was a nice trip!

Glad you enjoyed!- We can't wait to hear.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 10, 2013, 02:24:03 PM
i would like to thank Ergel, Dan, Mendoul, Ajk, Sky121, mayb821.

Sitting in the AA Lounge. And day is over ish (till they close the lounge at 9). TR will be done when i get back to the holy land tom. It def was a nice trip!
FTFY and you're welcome. Happy you had a good time
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 10, 2013, 02:25:35 PM
FTFY and you're welcome. Happy you had a good time
sorry about the misspell.

One thing i gotta say, chabad is made up of tzadikim.
#just sayin. Lol
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 10, 2013, 02:26:51 PM
i would like to thank Ergal, Dan, Mendoul, Ajk, Sky121, mayb821.

Sitting in the AA Lounge. And day is over ish (till they close the lounge at 9). TR will be done when i get back to the holy land tom. It def was a nice trip!

;) you'r welcome
waiting for the report ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 11, 2013, 08:12:43 PM
So here goes my flight from JFK>CDG>TLV.  12hr stopover in CDG with a wife and 6 month old boy. Leaving tues and landing in TLV thurs AM.

I took an 840pm flight from JFK>CDG. In the airport, it was a breeze with curb-side check in. A nice tip is required as the guy told someone else. Since my wife has an active plat, so were good for legit lounges if need be. We went to the AA CLub Admirals lounge, which was gorgeous. They didnt have any food really but the ambiance and the relaxation was well worth it. I only saw the showers 5 min before i was going to board :-(.

Took the flight (AA) which was ok and landed in CDG at 10 am. We got off the plane got out stroller only to see the latch that keeps it shut is broken :-( we got to customs which was a breeze and went straight to terminal 2e which was where i was told is the train from the airport to Paris. So anyone with handbags that they don't want to take around with them for the day, i would suggest you go to the forth floor when ur at 2e and drop them off, its super official, and they werent expensive. (Its across from the shereton hotel enterence). I was told to go down first and up and back down, lost a good 30 min just trying to figure out where to put my luggage. Then we went down to the second floor to RER B which is the main train to Paris. I went straight to the ticket desk and bought tickets. At first my Hyatt card didnt work but, she did it again and it went. We bought full day passes for 40€, i think its the same price for 2 people 2 one ways. Its a bit tricky to figure out how to get the stroller down one level to the train lines but ask a guard and they will show you.

The wiki isn't so clear about is next part, but you have to take voie 11 or 12 to get to Paris. There is no direct train to the Eiffel Tower. You have to transfer trains at some point. Some American/frenchy explained it to me that youd have to take the e at gord di nord but it seemed very confusing. But we took the train straight to Notre Dam. I knew it was a big attraction and i figured we'd figure out the full itin there.

My wife wanted to to this hop on hop off bus, 21€ a person and 15€ for infant (b'erech). The bill was 54 and i gave him 60. I was so busy helping my wife with the stroller i forgot to get my change. I realized, and i went to the driver and first he made like he didnt know what i was talking about, then i told the manager on the bus and he gane me my money back. 15$, how nuts is theat if you went to macys and she jyped you off 15$ (obviousky not, bec we all pay with CC). We too. The hop on hop off, which actualy made sense for us being we just wanted to see Paris. We thought about taking the train, but we came to the conclusion its worth the bus bec wll see Paris outside not in the subway. (Which was so true, was def a nice Expireance)!  After Notre Dam we took the hop on hop off to Champ Delysse. It had 3 stops in between (we passed by the beloved PHP and took a pic for the ddf fans here) but we just stayed on the bus. Once we got off at Champ we took some pics of the Arc Di Triumph and headed down the block to the chabad. I knew there were kosher places but my phone was not working so needed help. I get to 122 Champ but its just a long hallway which i couldn't enter, finally someone just happened to have been stopping by let us in and said were in the back bec we any be out in the open. The rabbi there at the chabad was so nice, i hope my home can be open to strangers as his was, one day! He showed me where the restaurants were and such.

We had 2 options Le Shine (Asian) or Il Conte (dairy). Since Le Shine was farther out (10 min from the arc) and it looked like rain. So we opted for Il conte . (Yes JJ1000 even i said lets do dairy). It was a 6 min walk and we got there around 245 ish. The waiter wasnt so nice and rushed us bec the kitchen was closing soon. Mybwife ordered a pizza with 1/2 mushrooms half olives and she specified GREEN. I ordered Penne Al Norma (with out the eggplant). They served bread at the beginning, which was a bit old but was def ok. And we ordered......duh....FRENCH fries. The food came super quick. The pizza of course had black olives and was not Hot enough in my opinion. As i told my wife its hot but cold enough if u dont touch the cheese it will get hard on top. The pizza was thin but def very tasty (i took off the olives) my penne i gotta say was AMAZING. It was sweet and tasted a bit diff. I don't do dairy. I can do meat at 10 am any day if the week. But when we do dairy, i always order the same thing. Penne solsa rosa/al vodka/cream sauce/tomato sauce. I must say this was the best one so far. The French fried were very solid too. 50$ later we were ready to continue on. By then it started to rain and we walked back to the hop on hop off and onto the next attraction. I think the next stop was.....the Eiffel Tower.

The Eiffel Tower is officially he first stop of the hop on hop off, but u can start anywhere. There's also headphones to listen, and hear about each place. We went to the Eiffel Tower and were there for around 25 min. Took a few pics, bought a few souvaniers and were ready back on the bus. Was gorgeous driving around the tower.  Its gorgeous. 

The next stop was the louvre. I watched davinci code to many times that i had to see the glass triangle where you enter th louvre. By then it was 530 and we wanted to be back at Notre dam by 555 and on the train back to the airport by 6/605. So we got off took a few pics and left. The next stop after the louvre is back over to Notre dam where we started off. It takes a total of 2.5 hrs if u sit from the beg of the bus ride to the end.

The train was packed but we got on the second train and got to the airport by 640 ish. We picked up out luggage and went to the ticketing counter, which was on the otherwise of the airport.  Apparently i got our boarding passes in JFK. So we went then through security. There was around 6 diff lounges. AA, AC, Cathy Pacific, Eitahd (i think). We went to the AA one which was magnificent, marble all over granite in the bathrooms. There was no showers though. This is where hey threw us out for no good reason (claiming that they close at 9, which my wife asked a lady there and she said all night) but lets call it spade of spade, they were anti Semites. We got on the flight and flew to TLV. Flight was a Actually very comfy.

Arrived in TLV at 4 am. We went to g the luggage and since it was a small flight all the bags were already out. Waited for 10 min, and i asked where is my carry on that i sent down with the stroller.  I went to the desk to file a claim and i see it right behind them. Got my luggage, took at slow bad taxi who charged me an abnormal amount.  Nu nu. And then back home at 6 and at Seder by 940.

Good Luck. And thanks for listening. 

Mr. & Mrs. Rots5 and child.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 14, 2013, 09:51:13 AM
What are the chances of 2 nights opening up at the PHP in June? Should I just keep checking everyday?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on April 14, 2013, 09:55:43 AM
What are the chances of 2 nights opening up at the PHP in June? Should I just keep checking everyday?
Yes, and I would also try  calling the hotel directly and asking for "in house bookings", it worked for me when I went.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 14, 2013, 10:02:43 AM
Yes, and I would also try  calling the hotel directly and asking for "in house bookings", it worked for me when I went.

Thanks, I'll do that. :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 14, 2013, 11:34:51 AM
What are the chances of 2 nights opening up at the PHP in June? Should I just keep checking everyday?

Rather good. Yes.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 14, 2013, 12:01:56 PM
Thanks, I'll do that. :)
If they won't open just check every morning and night.  99% chance of opening before the stay but have a backup plan either way.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 14, 2013, 12:27:48 PM
To long?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 14, 2013, 01:08:26 PM
If they won't open just check every morning and night.  99% chance of opening before the stay but have a backup plan either way.

Will do. Is online up to date for checking for availability ? And yeah I am currently booked at the Intercontinental for the whole 5 days. Just in case...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 15, 2013, 10:17:05 AM
Anyone going around Lag Baomer time?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sy guy on April 15, 2013, 11:45:50 AM
B"H heading down to Paris this Thurs night.
Arrival BH early morning Friday with weekend stay booked at PHP. I have emailed them and they have accommodated my request to have a Deluxe King all weekend in lieu of one night in a suite (Hyatt card) and two nights in regular room (points from UR). Dont want to be moving rooms on Shabbat. Let's see if room is ready early Friday on arrival.

First order of business is procuring breakfast and food for Shabbat on Friday morning. Any recommendations walking distance from the PHP or do we need to head to the marais? Bread, deli, chicken, rice, potatoes are fine for meals. Will also need to find kosher wine. Thanks. Also any recommendations for late Motzaei Shabbat dinner are appreciated.

Will Bli Neder try and post a TR afterwards with detail. Preliminary plans are to visit Eiffel Tower, Louvre, Orsay and Orangerie on Fri/Sun, with meals out, some shopping, and a lot of walking around on Shabbat.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on April 15, 2013, 03:04:39 PM
Will do. Is online up to date for checking for availability ? And yeah I am currently booked at the Intercontinental for the whole 5 days. Just in case...

Keep checking.  I had the same issue and then within a few weeks all four nights I wanted opened up.  You will end up with multiple reservations (one for each day) but the hotel should be able to combine into one.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 15, 2013, 03:39:35 PM
B"H heading down to Paris this Thurs night.
Arrival BH early morning Friday with weekend stay booked at PHP. I have emailed them and they have accommodated my request to have a Deluxe King all weekend in lieu of one night in a suite (Hyatt card) and two nights in regular room (points from UR). Dont want to be moving rooms on Shabbat. Let's see if room is ready early Friday on arrival.

First order of business is procuring breakfast and food for Shabbat on Friday morning. Any recommendations walking distance from the PHP or do we need to head to the marais? Bread, deli, chicken, rice, potatoes are fine for meals. Will also need to find kosher wine. Thanks. Also any recommendations for late Motzaei Shabbat dinner are appreciated.

Will Bli Neder try and post a TR afterwards with detail. Preliminary plans are to visit Eiffel Tower, Louvre, Orsay and Orangerie on Fri/Sun, with meals out, some shopping, and a lot of walking around on Shabbat.

Go to the marais - can get everything you need there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 15, 2013, 03:55:08 PM
Go to the marais - can get everything you need there.
Can you?
Beware there are lots of kosher looking stores with bad hechseirim or no hechsher at all.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 15, 2013, 04:14:12 PM
Can you?
Beware there are lots of kosher looking stores with bad hechseirim or no hechsher at all.

What's a better area to go?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 15, 2013, 04:15:31 PM
Dunno, I never bought shabbos food there.
Glatt meat is really tough to find though in Paris.

Maybe Mendoul will chip in.  Or you can email chabad and ask them.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 15, 2013, 04:23:47 PM
Can you?
Beware there are lots of kosher looking stores with bad hechseirim or no hechsher at all.

Yeah, got food for shabbas there as well as a bite before.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 15, 2013, 04:29:13 PM
Yeah, got food for shabbas there as well as a bite before.
just buy chicken...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 15, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
Yeah, got food for shabbas there as well as a bite before.
Which place?

just buy chicken...
Most people don't eat any meat that's only under Beis Din (as 95% of the restaurants in Paris are)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 15, 2013, 04:42:05 PM
But chicken doesn't have glatt capabilities?

Do ppl say since meat was cut with glatt, is not good, so all the kailem are not good?

The chabad on champ is great, they forsure can help you out! 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 15, 2013, 04:47:11 PM
be careful at the marais not every thing its kosher!, glatt kosher you have to get from the 19th, and if you want glatt food for shabbos
the best way would be to email chabad of champs elysée and ask him if you could order and go get it on friday
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 15, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
Which place?

It was here, I believe (though I may be mistaken):

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=14+Rue+Pav%C3%A9e,+Paris,&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=48.856209,2.360564&spn=0.000683,0.004128&sll=48.85621,2.360563&sspn=0.001516,0.004128&gl=us&hnear=14+Rue+Pav%C3%A9e,+75004+Paris,+%C3%8Ele-de-France,+France&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=48.85621,2.360563&panoid=fchQSIPKYP5qEjzH1SMx8w&cbp=11,115.99,,0,0
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on April 15, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
Is the orange juice in the park hyatt ok to drink ( hechsher ) ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 15, 2013, 07:56:36 PM
which compagnie is it?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: gswannabe on April 16, 2013, 04:29:39 AM
Bar lev ( not sure how its spelt )
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 17, 2013, 12:12:02 PM
French version of Uber: http://en.lecab.fr/our-services/airports/charles-de-gaulle.html
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 02:15:15 PM
Is it new that you can book using the Hotel du Louvre with Hyatt?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2013, 02:17:08 PM
Is it new that you can book using the Hotel du Louvre with Hyatt?
Where do you see that?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 02:19:48 PM
Where do you see that?

Just stam when searching hotels on Hyatts website for Paris.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 18, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
Where do you see that?

http://parishoteldulouvre.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels-parishoteldulouvre/index.jsp?null

Was announced a couple months ago, along with I believe, 3 others in France.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2013, 02:21:35 PM
http://parishoteldulouvre.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels-parishoteldulouvre/index.jsp?null

Was announced a couple months ago, along with I believe 3 others.
Never seen it as bookable, sweet deal at cat 5.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 02:23:29 PM
+1 it looks nice. As do the others
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 18, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
+1 it looks nice. As do the others

Meh.

Nice option, great location, but the pics, if accurate, don't seem to hold a candle to the PHP.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 02:32:09 PM
Meh.

Nice option, great location, but the pics, if accurate, don't seem to hold a candle to the PHP.

Just called about it, they said if I book it its not refundable.

I've never had that with any Hyatt.

Wanted to use some free nights there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 18, 2013, 02:35:09 PM
Just called about it, they said if I book it its not refundable.

I've never had that with any Hyatt.

Wanted to use some free nights there.

Hmmm...

Quote
Cancellation Policy:
Cancel 24hours Prior To Arrival To Avoid One Night Pnlty
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 18, 2013, 02:35:54 PM
A bit OT: What's the quickest way to determine a hotel's cat if on the hotel's site?

I know starwood publishes it right on the page -- is there a place for hyatt hotels besides searching manually by cat?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 02:36:21 PM
Hmmm...

He said it may have something to do with it being the Air show week.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
Room Description:
Gold Passport/Hc Promo Awar Twin
1 Twin Bed : Free Wifi : Luxury Amenities
Minibar : Safe : Bathrobes

Rate Description:
Free night(s) based upon qualifying award earned and received into member account.
Cancellation Policy:
60 Days Cancel Policy/Forfeit Prepay Required
Deposit Policy:
Deposit Required By April 18, 2013. Deposit By Credit Card Required. 1 Night(S) Deposit Will Be Charged To Credit Card.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 21, 2013, 09:21:39 AM
Spoke to Hyatt asking them when the property in Nice will be available for booking and she said they were in the process of making it into a Hyatt but now it's closing. Not sure she knows what she's talking about but who knows!
Bummer.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sy guy on April 23, 2013, 04:58:39 PM
Mini TR off Shabbat trip to Paris:

Flight out - AA 44 JFK-CDG - got these tix as free one ways off my Barbados trip in January. Were in Main Cabin Extra coach seats in 767 mini-cabin. Highly recommended. Tried to sleep with little success.
CDG-Paris - Roissy bus - easy to find and clearing customs at CDG is a snap. Took about 75 minutes in rush hour traffic. Easy walk to PHP.
Hotel check-in - Arrived at PHP around 8:30am and room was not ready, but they did confirm that they had set aside a Park Deluxe King aside. Glad they kept their word and I did not have to move rooms on Shabbat. Told us room would be ready by 10 so we went to get food for Shabbat.
Shabbat Take-Away - bought package of 20 metro tickets for 13.3 euro (they may have been kids tickets, machine was in french - but had no problems using them). Took metro from Opera to 17th arrondisement (15 minutes) and picked up food from both a kosher grocer/butcher (wine, packaged deli, snacks) and Charles Traiteur (caterer with 4 other locations or so). Stuck to chicken as meat was not Glatt. Got some string beans, eggplant and potato salads, rice, potatoes and some pastries. I loved the food, my wife thought it was bland but good. Recommended especially if you don't to shlep some sort of hot plate.
Check-In take 2 - room was not ready when we got back at 10:30 due to mini-bar issue, but they were very responsive when I told them I needed the mini-bar to store the food I bought. Service was great throughout stay. Gave us a nice room on back side of hotel(Rue Volney side). Hotel earns it acclaim and is a tremendous value with Hyatt points. Water and espresso was constantly refreshed and bed was fantastic.
Fri Afternoon - took a nap for 1.5 hours just to take edge off exhaustion. Went to Musee D'Orsay and Orangerie, and then had some Haagen Daaz while people watching in Jardin D'Tuileries. PHP is an easy walk and a great base to explore city.
Fri night - Shabbat started around 8:45 but we were exhausted so I prayed early and we ate around 8pm. Slept until 11 am on Shabbat morning, thankfully the zman for Shacharit ended at 11:30. You really have to watch how tired you are after an overnight East Coast flight.
Shabbat - hotel was well schooled in Shabbat procedures. Exit from Rue Volney to avoid electronic doors. Took two long walks - noon-2:30 pm to Champs Elysee and back, ate lunch in room, and then 4-6:30 pm to Notre Dame and back. Weather was beautiful and Paris is the nicest walking city in the world. Hung out in room until Shabbat ended at 9:45 and then went to Champs Elysees for people watching and Haagen Daaz.
Sunday - morning went to Eiffel Tower by metro, but lines were long and scene was chaotic. Picked up breakfast from XXV right near Trocadero metro station (* min walk from Eiffel) and tried to hit the Grands Magasins (Au Printemp and Galeries Lafayette). They are closed Sunday, but shops on the Champs Elysees were open so went there. Ate lunch outside at Il Conte (good Italian), then went to the Louvre until it closed. Dinner was at Kavod (stuck to fish because of Glatt issues - even though meat looked good I did not ask if it was Halak) which was very nice and food great.
Flight home - Monday 9:25am United 871 CDG-EWR - Roissy bus at 7am had us in terminal at 7:45. Did some duty free shopping and boarded early. Was on refurbished 767-300 in economy (used 30k United points each). Hard product far superior to AA's with new seats and personal IFE. Nothing opened up in business other than on LH or Austrian and did not want to connect so stuck with United.
B'H a great weekend.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 23, 2013, 05:02:41 PM
Nice TR- sounds like a great weekend. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 23, 2013, 05:51:55 PM
Great tr! 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on April 23, 2013, 07:31:05 PM
Great thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 24, 2013, 09:06:47 AM
Anyone going around Lag Baomer time?
If you're going solo, perhaps
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 25, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
Any word whether Darjeeling has reopened?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on April 25, 2013, 10:11:38 AM
Any word whether Darjeeling has reopened?

Is Darjeeling that good? Or is it more the only glatt that's available?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 25, 2013, 10:14:17 AM
Is Darjeeling that good? Or is it more the only glatt that's available?
I think everything else that is glatt, is just mediocre.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2013, 12:01:27 PM
Any word whether Darjeeling has reopened?
Mendoul last said May but that they are open for take-out IIRC?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ResearchedTraveler on April 25, 2013, 12:02:16 PM
Just Spoke to Darjeeling, in broken English, "maybe another 15 days......"
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 25, 2013, 03:47:27 PM
Just Spoke to Darjeeling, in broken English, "maybe another 15 days......"

Oy. Currently shopping for Bet Din heterim for Meat
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 25, 2013, 04:26:18 PM
Found this quite helpful: http://parispalaterestaurants.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: KBR on May 09, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
I am going to Paris at the end of the month and staying at the PHP on points. There is a lot of great info here!! Does anyone have any experience with getting a pay as you go sim card in Paris? I am going to be coming from London and wanted to know if they sell sim cards at  Gare du Nord (Eurostar station) or anywhere else? I am more considered with data than voice. I would like to be able to use my phone while walking around Paris.  – Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on May 10, 2013, 11:40:15 AM
Going to be in Paris at the end of the month at a meeting.  Does anyone know of any glatt caterers that would deal with the hotel?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on May 10, 2013, 02:19:31 PM
Going to be in Paris at the end of the month at a meeting.  Does anyone know of any glatt caterers that would deal with the hotel?

which hotel?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on May 10, 2013, 03:57:06 PM
Le Meridien Etoile.
Title: Paris Hotel
Post by: ShlomoM on May 11, 2013, 04:33:50 PM
Does anyone have any experience with checking into the Hyatt Regency Paris Etoile with someone else making the booking for them using points.
Any help on this issue along with hotel suggestions for Paris excluding recommending the Park Hyatt would be very helpful for my upcoming trip.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on May 11, 2013, 06:05:32 PM
I am going to Paris at the end of the month and staying at the PHP on points. There is a lot of great info here!! Does anyone have any experience with getting a pay as you go sim card in Paris? I am going to be coming from London and wanted to know if they sell sim cards at  Gare du Nord (Eurostar station) or anywhere else? I am more considered with data than voice. I would like to be able to use my phone while walking around Paris.  – Thanks

there are shops in the concourse level (where the RER is, lower down than the eurostar and the long-distance trains) that sell all 3 big operators in france - orange, SFR, and Bouyges. You should be able to get a prepaid SIM card there. If you find someone selling free mobile (mobile.free.fr) they have unlimited everything for 20 Euros a month and you can cancel after the first month...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on May 11, 2013, 06:51:01 PM
there are shops in the concourse level (where the RER is, lower down than the eurostar and the long-distance trains) that sell all 3 big operators in france - orange, SFR, and Bouyges. You should be able to get a prepaid SIM card there. If you find someone selling free mobile (mobile.free.fr) they have unlimited everything for 20 Euros a month and you can cancel after the first month...

they all have unlimited everything for 15-20 euro in france but you have to order the sim online
Title: Re: Paris Hotel
Post by: AJK on May 11, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
You're unlikely to find someone on here that's done it at that hotel as it just became part of Hyatt brand.

But generally there are no problems.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on May 19, 2013, 04:30:16 PM
Just Spoke to Darjeeling, in broken English, "maybe another 15 days......"

Any news if they are open yet?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 19, 2013, 04:56:10 PM
We liked Le Shine though be prepared for no english or hebrew whatsoever
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2013, 05:19:35 PM
We liked Le Shine though be prepared for no english or hebrew whatsoever
When we had trouble out waiter brought out items like Peanut Butter to explain what things were :D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 19, 2013, 05:22:36 PM
Anyone with a windows phone and some data could just hold their phone over the menu and not be surprised with what they're about to eat.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2013, 05:26:46 PM
data
Stupid GNex :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 19, 2013, 05:28:18 PM
Actually can't you use Translate now without data ? I forgot where I saw that. Forget which phone.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on May 19, 2013, 07:55:13 PM
Any news if they are open yet?

not yet :(
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 24, 2013, 12:45:18 PM
How much is customary to tip in Europe?
In the hotel?
Eating out?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 24, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
How much is customary to tip in Europe?
In the hotel?
Eating out?

check out the do you tip thread
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 24, 2013, 02:12:38 PM
Coupon codes for Paris Segway tours seem to finally be dead. Was fun while it lasted.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 24, 2013, 02:19:08 PM
How much is customary to tip in Europe?
In the hotel?
Eating out?

when u gona b in paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 24, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
when u gona b in paris?

Hopefully sometime in late June.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2013, 02:23:33 PM
Coupon codes for Paris Segway tours seem to finally be dead. Was fun while it lasted.

Big loss, was a wonderful discount on an even better tour.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 24, 2013, 02:24:34 PM
Big loss, was a wonderful discount on an even better tour.

morning afternoon or night tour...which is better
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 24, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
I did morning tour.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 24, 2013, 02:27:35 PM
Big loss, was a wonderful discount on an even better tour.
You're welcome
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 26, 2013, 01:35:16 AM
where can i buy a museum pass? its saying i have to give a 4 days heads up to order it online, im leaving tom
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 26, 2013, 02:44:37 AM
what time is the light show by the Effie tower
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 26, 2013, 05:30:40 AM
what time is the light show by the Effie tower
Every hr. on the hr.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 26, 2013, 06:15:58 AM
"The sparkling lights are superimposed over the golden lighting. Made up of 20,000 light bulbs (5,000 per side), they bring the monument to life for 5 minutes every hour on the hour once the tower has been lit up until 1 am."

GIYF
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 26, 2013, 06:37:15 AM
"The sparkling lights are superimposed over the golden lighting. Made up of 20,000 light bulbs (5,000 per side), they bring the monument to life for 5 minutes every hour on the hour once the tower has been lit up until 1 am."

GIYF
speak for yourself. Google hates me. Not sure why though.  ;D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 26, 2013, 07:15:30 AM
where can i buy a museum pass? its saying i have to give a 4 days heads up to order it online, im leaving tom

Park Hyatt Concierge has them
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 26, 2013, 08:29:47 AM
speak for yourself. Google hates me. Not sure why though.  ;D

You probably ask it too many noob questions... :P
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 26, 2013, 09:07:05 AM
Every hr. on the hr.

tnx
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 26, 2013, 09:17:46 AM
You probably ask it too many noob questions... :P
:D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 26, 2013, 03:31:53 PM
Does milk need a hechsher in France? What about Italy?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 26, 2013, 06:42:37 PM
Does milk need a hechsher in France? What about Italy?

Yes for both
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 26, 2013, 06:48:35 PM
Yes for both

Thanks.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 26, 2013, 06:49:47 PM
Yes for both
Pretty sure the OU says no
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 26, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
Pretty sure the OU says no

Really ?  Anyone know where/who to email about this ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 26, 2013, 06:56:37 PM
Email from a few years ago from OU

Thank you for checking with the OU regarding your Kashruth question.



Thank you for checking with the OU regarding your Kashruth question.


Regretfully, the OU does not have any information about the Kosher food situation in Italy. OU would only have information about those Food Service establishments that that the OU supervises, and these, for the most part, are all in the Greater New York Metropolitan area.

We hope the following links will help you in your search:

Resources for the kosher traveler:

Shamash Kosher Restaurant Database - www.shamash.org
Listing of Worldwide Orthodox Shuls from the Orthodox Union - www.ou.org/network/synagogues/synagogues.cfm
List of Chabad Centers - www.chabad.org
Worldwide Minyan Database- www.godaven.com
Jewish Communities Worldwide - http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/communities.html

Disclaimer: By no means is this to be taken as a recommendation or endorsement. It is merely a means to help you with your search.

As a matter of policy, the OU does not share evaluations of other Hechsherim with the general public for a variety of reasons. We recommend that you discuss this question with your learned local Orthodox Rabbi.

Those who follow the position of Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l to consume chalav stam milk in the United States can consume milk in Italy or any other country with a functioning government agency like the United States’ FDA.

Please don't hesitate to contact us again should you have any further questions.


With our sincerest wishes for a pleasant summer, we remain,


Sincerely yours,


The Web(be) Rebbe
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 27, 2013, 08:27:12 AM
Email from a few years ago from OU

Thank you for checking with the OU regarding your Kashruth question.



Thank you for checking with the OU regarding your Kashruth question.


Regretfully, the OU does not have any information about the Kosher food situation in Italy. OU would only have information about those Food Service establishments that that the OU supervises, and these, for the most part, are all in the Greater New York Metropolitan area.

We hope the following links will help you in your search:

Resources for the kosher traveler:

Shamash Kosher Restaurant Database - www.shamash.org
Listing of Worldwide Orthodox Shuls from the Orthodox Union - www.ou.org/network/synagogues/synagogues.cfm
List of Chabad Centers - www.chabad.org
Worldwide Minyan Database- www.godaven.com
Jewish Communities Worldwide - http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/communities.html

Disclaimer: By no means is this to be taken as a recommendation or endorsement. It is merely a means to help you with your search.

As a matter of policy, the OU does not share evaluations of other Hechsherim with the general public for a variety of reasons. We recommend that you discuss this question with your learned local Orthodox Rabbi.

Those who follow the position of Rav Moshe Feinstein zt”l to consume chalav stam milk in the United States can consume milk in Italy or any other country with a functioning government agency like the United States’ FDA.

Please don't hesitate to contact us again should you have any further questions.


With our sincerest wishes for a pleasant summer, we remain,


Sincerely yours,


The Web(be) Rebbe

Are you sure that we still rely on the Italian version of the FDA?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2013, 08:55:00 AM
Are you sure that we still rely on the Italian version of the FDA?
I can ask again, but what's changed since 2009?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2013, 09:54:18 AM
If stores don't care about surreptitiously selling horse meat in place of beef in Europe then why do you trust them with milk?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2013, 09:59:29 AM
If stores don't care about surreptitiously selling horse meat in place of beef in Europe then why do you trust them with milk?
Link?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2013, 10:00:14 AM
GIYF
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 27, 2013, 10:19:03 AM
Link?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_meat_adulteration_scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_meat_adulteration_scandal)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 27, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_meat_adulteration_scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_meat_adulteration_scandal)

It was their "fda" hiding this ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 27, 2013, 10:34:17 AM
It was their "fda" hiding this ?

No, they uncovered it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2013, 11:21:10 AM
No, they uncovered it.
Sure, but it goes to prove that the companies don't care about the FDA.
If the punishment is less than the savings then it will keep on happening until they get another slap on the wrist.

To trust those same companies with your kashrus?? Mind-boggling.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2013, 11:21:20 AM
http://www.topmastersinpublichealth.com/meat/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 27, 2013, 11:39:37 AM
Sure, but it goes to prove that the companies don't care about the FDA.
If the punishment is less than the savings then it will keep on happening until they get another slap on the wrist.

To trust those same companies with your kashrus?? Mind-boggling.

You are right about the Kashrus part, for the simple reason that the FSA is there to ensure the health and safety of food, not the authenticity of it.

There are no inherent dangers in eating horse meat.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2013, 11:42:01 AM
There are no inherent dangers in eating horse meat.
Nor horse milk, pigs milk, etc, etc.
So on what are you relying on if these same companies can find a way to make a quick buck off them?

Ironic that we don't trust the government nowadays about anything they say but we'll trust them for something they don't even claim to watch out for.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 27, 2013, 12:48:50 PM
Nor horse milk, pigs milk, etc, etc.
So on what are you relying on if these same companies can find a way to make a quick buck off them?

Ironic that we don't trust the government nowadays about anything they say but we'll trust them for something they don't even claim to watch out for.

Integrity, I guess (with the large brands, of course). Since this scandal, they started doing DNA testing to prevent further problems. But, like I said, it wouldn't help you with Kashrus issues.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2013, 02:41:34 PM
Ikea and all the other brands don't have integrity?
Everyone is just looking for the lowest cost supplier.  Integrity be darned in 2013, they'll all get over it.

To be so makpid on this hechsher being good and this one being no good and then leaving C"Y up to government agencies that don't even claim to look out for what you're relying on them to look out for just seems bizarre.

/.02
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 27, 2013, 02:50:53 PM
I was talking generally, not in the context of kashrus. I agree with you about the CY part.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 28, 2013, 07:10:53 PM
im in the php now and internet on my entire floor hasnt been working all day ive called to abt it a few times and they keep saying they are trying to get it fixed....any ideas what to do? i kinda need it
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 28, 2013, 07:29:09 PM
im in the php now and internet on my entire floor hasnt been working all day ive called to abt it a few times and they keep saying they are trying to get it fixed....any ideas what to do? i kinda need it

Phone have hotspot ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 28, 2013, 07:32:52 PM
Phone have hotspot ?

wat?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 28, 2013, 07:34:08 PM
wat?

Asked if your phone had hot spot but now I'm imagining that your cell doesnt have unlimited data. Does the PHP have computers available? Is the internet working on other floors ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 28, 2013, 07:43:29 PM
Asked if your phone had hot spot but now I'm imagining that your cell doesnt have unlimited data. Does the PHP have computers available? Is the internet working on other floors ?

they have in the lobby, its a pain tho...just fyi not that any1 cares but just saw Selena Gomez walk right past me in the php
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 29, 2013, 01:47:02 AM
they have in the lobby, its a pain tho...just fyi not that any1 cares but just saw Selena Gomez walk right past me in the php
thats pretty funny. Always wondered what do celebrities actually do with there lives.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 29, 2013, 01:52:27 AM
they have in the lobby, its a pain tho...just fyi not that any1 cares but just saw Selena Gomez walk right past me in the php
who's that?

(POIDH :P)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on May 29, 2013, 01:04:14 PM
they have in the lobby, its a pain tho...just fyi not that any1 cares but just saw Selena Gomez walk right past me in the php

I saw a lot kids waiting outside the hotel this afternoon.  Maybe thats what they were waiting for.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on May 29, 2013, 04:57:26 PM
Just tried to for the Farandole.  La Marina was closed?  Also has Tib's been replaced by a new restaurant- La Suite?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 29, 2013, 05:50:26 PM
Just tried to for the Farandole.  La Marina was closed?  Also has Tib's been replaced by a new restaurant- La Suite?

i had the farandole earlier today.. as of 5 hrs ago tibs was still there
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on May 29, 2013, 05:59:48 PM
i had the farandole earlier today.. as of 5 hrs ago tibs was still there

Was it still called Tibs?  The restaurant looked similar to Tib's but not had a new name.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 29, 2013, 06:07:58 PM
Was it still called Tibs?  The restaurant looked similar to Tib's but not had a new name.

nope it was called tibs, on the corner nxt door to la marina
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 29, 2013, 06:10:38 PM
whats the best way to get to  Versailles
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 29, 2013, 06:14:34 PM
whats the best way to get to  Versailles

RER
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 29, 2013, 06:17:18 PM
RER

tnx
which train?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 29, 2013, 06:18:43 PM
tnx
which train?

Seriously? Do you also want me to call you a cab to get to the RER?

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 29, 2013, 06:19:12 PM
Seriously? Do you also want me to call you a cab to get to the RER?
can u. :P. :D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 29, 2013, 06:19:38 PM
Seriously? Do you also want me to call you a cab to get to the RER?

that wud be very kind of u
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 29, 2013, 06:20:05 PM
http://bit.ly/16qeQFV
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 29, 2013, 06:22:31 PM
http://bit.ly/16qeQFV

thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on May 30, 2013, 10:32:04 AM
any kosher wine stores near the park hyatt
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2013, 11:37:29 AM
any kosher wine stores near the park hyatt
In the pletzel is probably closest.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
any kosher wine stores near the park hyatt

go to the French open?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 31, 2013, 10:46:40 AM
Was there a final say on where the best place to get food for shabbos is ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2013, 10:55:40 AM
Going to Chabad where the walk is fun, the Rabbi speaks fluently in at least 5 languages, the hot food is great, and you're likely to meet other cool jetsetting couples as well?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 31, 2013, 11:06:33 AM
Going to Chabad where the walk is fun, the Rabbi speaks fluently in at least 5 languages, the hot food is great, and you're likely to meet other cool jetsetting couples as well?

Plan on it. But only for the day meal. Would like to pick up some food for Friday night.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on May 31, 2013, 11:09:05 AM
Plan on it. But only for the day meal. Would like to pick up some food for Friday night.

call the rabbi there he'll help you
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 31, 2013, 11:12:58 AM
call the rabbi there he'll help you

There aren't any good stores to pick up some food Friday ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on May 31, 2013, 11:18:49 AM
for now?

they all closed already
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 31, 2013, 11:22:52 AM
for now?

they all closed already

Oh no, just meant in general. I'll be there in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on May 31, 2013, 11:25:15 AM
Oh no, just meant in general. I'll be there in a few weeks.

if you eat only lubavitch you have to order trough the champs elysée's shliach
if not in the pleitzel or in the 19th they should have
like charles traiteur
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2013, 11:25:22 AM
There aren't any good stores to pick up some food Friday ?
Friday night food was even better than the day.
Plus you can take the subway directly there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2013, 11:25:55 AM
if you eat only lubavitch you have to order trough the champs elysée's shliach
if not in the pleitzel or in the 19th they should have
like charles traiteur
Where in the pletzel can you find glatt kosher shabbos food?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 31, 2013, 11:36:47 AM
if you eat only lubavitch you have to order trough the champs elysée's shliach
if not in the pleitzel or in the 19th they should have
like charles traiteur
I don't only eat lubavitch.
Thanks. I'll look into it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 31, 2013, 12:31:10 PM
No only can you take a subway there on Friday night, the walk is much better at night, too.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ResearchedTraveler on May 31, 2013, 01:01:46 PM
I was there over shabbos a few weeks back staying at the PH. We ate at Chabad Shabbos lunch but Friday night we decided to get food on our own. I called Chabad prior to going to Paris and they were extremely unhelpful when I asked where we could get shabbos food.

In the end we picked up sushi from I don't remember (on Blvd Voltaire), then went to a place Rottiserie to pick up some chicken and salads. We also went to Korcarz in the 4th to buy challah for shabbos.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ResearchedTraveler on May 31, 2013, 01:04:02 PM
I could be wrong about it being the only restaurant open, but I know Tib's opens in the summer Saturday nights till 1ish
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2013, 01:07:21 PM
I called Chabad prior to going to Paris and they were extremely unhelpful when I asked where we could get shabbos food.
It seems to be very hard to find a place with glatt shabbos food.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on June 03, 2013, 04:59:15 PM
landing in paris for 1 day in the am, sky alliance lounge is the only lounge with showers in CDG.
I am not a gold member although I have the lounge club pass & a united lounge pass. Where can I take a shower  when
I land?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 04, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
I was there over shabbos a few weeks back staying at the PH. We ate at Chabad Shabbos lunch but Friday night we decided to get food on our own. I called Chabad prior to going to Paris and they were extremely unhelpful when I asked where we could get shabbos food.

In the end we picked up sushi from I don't remember (on Blvd Voltaire), then went to a place Rottiserie to pick up some chicken and salads. We also went to Korcarz in the 4th to buy challah for shabbos.

Ate by the Chabad last shabbos for both meals.  Very enjoyable, the food was pretty good and it was nice seeing so many jews in Paris from all walks of life.   Walk from the PHP was around 35 minutes up the Champs which is great.  Meals do run late so dont count on a quick meal.....   
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 04, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
landing in paris for 1 day in the am, sky alliance lounge is the only lounge with showers in CDG.
I am not a gold member although I have the lounge club pass & a united lounge pass. Where can I take a shower  when
I land?


Airfrance lounge on terminal 2E has showers

Ate by the Chabad last shabbos for both meals.  Very enjoyable, the food was pretty good and it was nice seeing so many jews in Paris from all walks of life.   Walk from the PHP was around 35 minutes up the Champs which is great.  Meals do run late so dont count on a quick meal.....   

:) very cool
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 06, 2013, 06:19:54 PM
Q-
Is there any benefit to taking a CC that has a chip to Europe? Is it needed anywhere?   Like I said previously the bike rentals wouldn't work without the chip card but you need a pin and Chase said there isn't one attached to the card so that wouldn't help me anyways.


Did anyone run into any places that wouldn't accept the Chase Sapphire Preferred card?


TIA
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 06, 2013, 06:31:08 PM
Anyone here ever go to the Paris Air Show? I am thinking of going this year (in two weeks) and trying to figure out where to stay for Shabbat and if it is actually worth it. Hotels are made expensive in any decent area even with points. TIA
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 07, 2013, 08:05:59 PM
For anyone who doesn't remember you can now download languages for offline translation with Google. Comes in mighty handy when travelling especially at restaraunts.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 09, 2013, 09:06:43 PM
Just returned from a weeklong trip to Paris.  Thought I would share the following tips:

- My regular US credit card worked everywhere with the exception of a couple of train stations which required the pin technology (Hyatt cc came in handy there)

-Most cabs in Paris dont take credit card and if they do they wont admit to taking it.  Unless you are willing to wait for one to agree to take cc, you might need some Euros. Also, most places have a 10 Euro minimum on purchases for which they will take cc.  Be sure to bring  a cc with no foreign exchange fee (Chase Sapphire or Hyatt)

- Be sure to buy a ticket to the Louvre in advance.  The security line for advance ticket holders was non-existent, while the regular security line for everyone else was huge!

- At Versailles, there is a massive security line in the morning - at least an hour wait.  By 1pm the line was gone.  Either plan on coming later in the afternoon or go to the gardens first (no line) and then visit the Palace in the afternoon.

-  Disneyland Paris is a 45 minute train ride and a miniature version of Disneyworld in Orlando. If you go, think about buying the hopper ticket since you can likely cover both parks in one day.

- Sign up for free month trial of Skype Premium to make free international calls to anyone in the US.

- PHP is very nice.  I am not sure it is as good as everyone makes it sound though.  The free breakfast though was very nice.

- Ate by chabad for both Shabbos meals.  Good company, good food, good walk up the Champs.  Meals run very late so be prepared. 



Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 09, 2013, 09:09:45 PM
Just returned from a weeklong trip to Paris.  Thought I would share the following tips:

- My regular US credit card worked everywhere with the exception of a couple of train stations which required the pin technology (Hyatt cc came in handy there)

-Most cabs in Paris dont take credit card and if they do they wont admit to taking it.  Unless you are willing to wait for one to agree to take cc, you might need some Euros. Also, most places have a 10 Euro minimum on purchases for which they will take cc.  Be sure to bring  a cc with no foreign exchange fee (Chase Sapphire or Hyatt)

- Be sure to buy a ticket to the Louvre in advance.  The security line for advance ticket holders was non-existent, while the regular security line for everyone else was huge!

- At Versailles, there is a massive security line in the morning - at least an hour wait.  By 1pm the line was gone.  Either plan on coming later in the afternoon or go to the gardens first (no line) and then visit the Palace in the afternoon.

-  Disneyland Paris is a 45 minute train ride and a miniature version of Disneyworld in Orlando. If you go, think about buying the hopper ticket since you can likely cover both parks in one day.

- Sign up for free month trial of Skype Premium to make free international calls to anyone in the US.

- PHP is very nice.  I am not sure it is as good as everyone makes it sound though.  The free breakfast though was very nice.

- Ate by chabad for both Shabbos meals.  Good company, good food, good walk up the Champs.  Meals run very late so be prepared. 




Nice write up. Thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2013, 11:44:41 PM
What did they give you for breakfast?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 10, 2013, 08:49:47 AM
What did they give you for breakfast?

A box with 5 pastries from Korcarz for both my wife and I and a cholov yisroel milk
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 10:49:57 AM
You find that impressive? Were they even fresh?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 10, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
They were actually very fresh.  Plus, given the prices at Korcarz, those 5 pastries would have cost $20 a person. 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 01:38:56 PM
They were actually very fresh.  Plus, given the prices at Korcarz, those 5 pastries would have cost $20 a person. 
Interesting. Mine were frozen and the milk they gave us had no label.

The 2012 breakfast was a sick joke compared to what they gave us back in 2010.

Anyway, Korcarz pales in comparison to Chez Hakol pastries.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 10, 2013, 01:40:12 PM
A box with 5 pastries from Korcarz for both my wife and I and a cholov yisroel milk

+1

I got the same in May plus some juices and coffee
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 01:44:05 PM
+1

I got the same in May plus some juices and coffee
Kosher or unmarked juice?
Were the pastries fresh?

Maybe they actually listened to my complaint letter about them!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2013, 03:22:19 PM
Going to be in Paris on Sunday. Suggestions for a good/quick lunch and a nice sit down dinner. TIA.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 10, 2013, 03:29:56 PM
Kosher or unmarked juice?
Were the pastries fresh?

Maybe they actually listened to my complaint letter about them!

Unmarked but fresh squeezed as I asked

Yes, very
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 03:31:01 PM
Check if Darjeeling is open.

Il Conte and L'Inte Cafe are both very nice for a lunch.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 03:31:40 PM
Unmarked but fresh squeezed as I asked

Yes, very
Good, I had heard from people who got frozen stuff before me and made sure to make a complaint out of it when they did that to me too.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 10, 2013, 03:42:02 PM
I'd say make known the kosher breakfast was great and appreciated so they keep it up!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 03:45:36 PM
I wouldn't call a few pastries "great", but to each their own.
It is nice that they're at least fresh.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 10, 2013, 03:53:34 PM
I wouldn't call a few pastries "great", but to each their own.

At least they should know these fresh
goodies are better than what's been.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on June 10, 2013, 04:08:28 PM
Check if Darjeeling is open.

+1 going later this month would love to know if its open yet?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 04:12:52 PM
+1 going later this month would love to know if its open yet?
PUTPAC?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on June 10, 2013, 04:30:26 PM
PUTPAC?
#?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2013, 04:56:03 PM
#?

PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL!!

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL!!

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0)

Pretty sure you need to read his post again.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 05:00:44 PM
GIYF
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on June 10, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL!!

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0)
I know what it means shesh
If you supply me with the number I would call
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2013, 05:22:31 PM
I know what it means shesh
If you supply me with the number I would call

Woops. MISREAD. I will publicly announce that was my mistake. Sorry  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 10, 2013, 11:12:43 PM
Going to be in Paris on Sunday. Suggestions for a good/quick lunch and a nice sit down dinner. TIA.

I enjoyed Il Pallazo. As an added bonus, they had English menus!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:26:28 PM
I enjoyed Il Pallazo. As an added bonus, they had English menus!
Looks nice!
What did you order?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 10, 2013, 11:28:03 PM
What hechshers do most chabad guys here eat in Paris ?

Do people eat Beth din for milchig ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:29:53 PM
What hechshers do most chabad guys here eat in Paris ?

Do people eat Beth din for milchig ?
For meat Chabad, Rottenberg, or Frankfurter.

For dairy I think everything is fine though I check with the on-site mashgiach to make sure.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 10, 2013, 11:32:07 PM
If that's the case I'm curious why when their seems to be many many milchig restaraunts to eat at you don't hear about more of them being good places to eat.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:37:56 PM
Sheeple. Its easier to copy someones TR than make one from scratch.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 10, 2013, 11:40:50 PM
Is that it? Shameful.  We DDFers have to broaden our food horizons. ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
I've met several people who have gone to CDG and emulated my TRs down to the T.

Its interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 11, 2013, 02:56:25 AM
I basically took bits and pieces for my own TR. We went to Il Conte and it was great! Not expensive and very delicious food. If i must it might have been the best penne salsa rosa I've ever eaten.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 11, 2013, 08:29:29 AM
Looks nice!
What did you order?

Fried Mozzarella sticks to start
Sorentina pizza which was excellent
And the concerto for desert  - which was 5 mini deserts (mini: tiramisu, cheese, pannacota, chocolate mousse, ice ball).  All were great except the cheese, which I think is an acquired taste.

A couple next to us ordered a calzone pizza which looked very interesting and if nothing more, was the largest calzone I have ever seen!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 11, 2013, 08:42:05 AM
Wow, so looks like i got a few places to try out. Whats easiest way to get to area around restaurants mentioned here from CDG. Will be staying in hotel around there.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 11, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
Fried Mozzarella sticks to start
Sorentina pizza which was excellent
And the concerto for desert  - which was 5 mini deserts (mini: tiramisu, cheese, pannacota, chocolate mousse, ice ball).  All were great except the cheese, which I think is an acquired taste.

A couple next to us ordered a calzone pizza which looked very interesting and if nothing more, was the largest calzone I have ever seen!

I took food from them on the way back from Versailles (kids were tired, so we ate at the hotel). We had fish, pasta and pizza IIRC. Food was good, and the portions were big.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 11, 2013, 06:46:05 PM
Anyone here able to answer a few questions with regards to locations and directions.

Please PM me. TIA.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 11, 2013, 06:48:45 PM
Anyone here able to answer a few questions with regards to locations and directions.

Please PM me. TIA.
ask.

Also google maps is a great tool. Its underrated when it comes to planning trips and the such. I planned a full day rome trip and Paris using just google maps and my addresses. I saw everything!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 11, 2013, 07:17:38 PM
ask.

Also google maps is a great tool. Its underrated when it comes to planning trips and the such. I planned a full day rome trip and Paris using just google maps and my addresses. I saw everything!

thats prob what I will end up doing. how long would it take to get from CDG to any of the good restaurants in Paris? And if I would go back at around 9pm from paris to hotel near CDG should I take a taxi then or public transportation.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 11, 2013, 07:18:29 PM
thats prob what I will end up doing. how long would it take to get from CDG to any of the good restaurants in Paris? And if I would go back at around 9pm from paris to hotel near CDG should I take a taxi then or public transportation.

It gets dark pretty late right now in Paris if that helps.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 11, 2013, 07:27:06 PM
It gets dark pretty late right now in Paris if that helps.

Is it safe though, or would I be better off with a taxi since its my first time there?

How much would that run me approximately?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 11, 2013, 08:55:47 PM
Is it safe though, or would I be better off with a taxi since its my first time there?

How much would that run me approximately?

Taxi to CDG from Paris will cost you at least 40 dollars.  There is a train that runs there but I can't speak for how safe that one is at night.  Some of the trains at night had some drunks or weirdos on them.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 12, 2013, 03:37:55 AM
From CDG take the RER to Notre Dam. Get off and take (i forget which exactly) a diff line to champ or dis. 7.

Or just take a taxi from Notre dam. Its like a 7-10 min taxi ride.

And i don't knowing about the train back. I took it at 5/6 ish when it was light.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 12, 2013, 01:41:23 PM
Taxi to CDG from Paris will cost you at least 40 dollars.  There is a train that runs there but I can't speak for how safe that one is at night.  Some of the trains at night had some drunks or weirdos on them.

the taxi at 9PM would propably cost you around 50Euro
dont take the train at that time
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2013, 03:02:33 PM
the taxi at 9PM would propably cost you around 50Euro
dont take the train at that time
lol, why not? It's worse than NY? I took the train late at night I think 10 was the last train to CDG...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 12, 2013, 06:01:52 PM
lol, why not? It's worse than NY? I took the train late at night I think 10 was the last train to CDG...

its fine but its better not to use it that late! that train the "RER B" is fare from the safest train in france
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 01:53:49 PM
Anyone been here yet?
http://www.mangercacher.com/cacher.php?idCommerce=1282&Origine=Lang=%20%20Restaurant%20nom=%20%20%20ville=%20%20arrondis=%20%20dpt=%2075%20spec=%200%20restaur=%200%20certif=%202%27
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 13, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
Btw- if anyone is interested this a pretty decent blog on kosher food in Paris. All the places have various hechsherim (if any) but still a fun read. :)

http://parispalaterestaurants.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 17, 2013, 07:47:37 PM
Can anyone recommend a decent priced car service or shuttle service from CDG to Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 17, 2013, 09:11:07 PM
Well i just took the Roissybus yesterday. Wasn't too bad and not too long. Easy to find.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 17, 2013, 09:48:12 PM
This is for 3 people with some luggage. Looking for a taxi / car service.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 17, 2013, 09:53:56 PM
This is for 3 people with some luggage. Looking for a taxi / car service.
call Dovid walden. Hes amazing!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 17, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
call Dovid walden. Hes amazing!

Number ?

Good prices ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 17, 2013, 10:54:28 PM
Just got home from two day trip to Paris. Very exhausting. Trip report coming in next few days, after I go through the 400 pictures I took, most at the air show.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 18, 2013, 09:29:21 AM
http://mendystransport.com/en/

Anyone ever use Mendys Transport before? Feedback?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 18, 2013, 09:41:16 AM
http://mendystransport.com/en/

Anyone ever use Mendys Transport before? Feedback?
PM Mendoul maybe he has a car :)

I don't know him afaik, but he seems very nice and helpful.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 18, 2013, 09:46:14 AM
PM Mendoul maybe he has a car :)

I don't know him afaik, but he seems very nice and helpful.

That's who referred me to 'Mendy' :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on June 18, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
This is for 3 people with some luggage. Looking for a taxi / car service.

never used them but heard good things about this service: http://www.lescarsairfrance.com/en/roissy-cdg-shuttle-bus.html

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 18, 2013, 11:54:12 AM
That's who referred me to 'Mendy' :)

PM Mendoul maybe he has a car :)

I don't know him afaik, but he seems very nice and helpful.

lol :)

if not you have
http://www.wecab.com/en/booking/airport-paris/private/step1
http://www.blacklane.com/en
https://www.clubchauffeur.com/
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 18, 2013, 02:11:47 PM
Number ?

Good prices ?
sorry, i got confused. hes rome. my bad
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on June 19, 2013, 12:44:28 PM
Where is Darjeeling located?
Getting two address off of google,
121 Rue de Clignancourt
75018 Paris, France
and
1 rue des Colonels Renard
Paris 75017 France
Both show Darjeeling as being located there...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 19, 2013, 12:45:22 PM
Where is Darjeeling located?
Getting two address off of google,
121 Rue de Clignancourt
75018 Paris, France
and
1 rue des Colonels Renard
Paris 75017 France
Both show Darjeeling as being located there...

Is it open again ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: wierdal832 on June 19, 2013, 12:51:48 PM
Is it open again ?

i was there 2 weeks ago, they were still closed
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on June 19, 2013, 01:06:27 PM
Says they are open for delivery
Figured if I know where their address is I would stop by in 10 days...
Any address...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 19, 2013, 01:08:41 PM
Darjeeling Restaurant:
1 rue des Colonels Renard
Paris 75017 France
Phone: 01 45 72 09 32

Darjeeling shop:
39 rue Davy
Paris 75017 France
Téléphone: 01 42 26 35 35

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on June 19, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
Darjeeling Restaurant:
1 rue des Colonels Renard
Paris 75017 France
Phone: 01 45 72 09 32

Darjeeling shop:
39 rue Davy
Paris 75017 France
Téléphone: 01 42 26 35 35
Whats the difference?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 19, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
i saw an advertisement that darjeeling's reopening on June 30th
i hope this time it will be true!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on June 19, 2013, 09:11:28 PM
hey guys looking for something good for breakfast tomorrow, whats better? L’Inte Cafe or Il Conte?
and what is a recommended dish at the one that is "better"?

Also any recommendations for a good lunch? preferably french cuisine?

so far i've been to pitzmans - wich was great, and korcarz. TIA
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 24, 2013, 10:12:06 AM
i found a caterer that deliver glatt kosher shabbos meal to the hotels (he actualy works with luxury hotels, cruse etc..)
from classic meal to gourmet meal

email: contact.kgourmet@gmail.com

never order yet but good feedback
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: basketnarb on June 25, 2013, 12:15:44 PM
Landing at CDG at 5:45am on Monday - is it possible for me to make a minyan somewhere? If so - where and how should I get there considering time constraints?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 25, 2013, 01:21:36 PM

http://mendystransport.com/en/


For anyone looking for a ride Mendy was excellent. Always on time, nice big van with air and he's a super friendly guy.
Highly recommend.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 25, 2013, 02:07:26 PM
Landing at CDG at 5:45am on Monday - is it possible for me to make a minyan somewhere? If so - where and how should I get there considering time constraints?

how long you staying in paris?

http://mendystransport.com/en/


For anyone looking for a ride Mendy was excellent. Always on time, nice big van with air and he's a super friendly guy.
Highly recommend.


+1 ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: basketnarb on June 25, 2013, 02:22:48 PM
how long you staying in paris?

+1 ;)

1 day.  Landing at 5:45AM leaving at 11:30pm.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 25, 2013, 02:28:28 PM
1 day.  Landing at 5:45AM leaving at 11:30pm.

there is no minyan at the airport you have to go to paris
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: basketnarb on June 25, 2013, 04:00:03 PM
there is no minyan at the airport you have to go to paris

Yes we plan on going to paris for the day.  My question is will I have time to make it to a minyan in paris if we are landing at 5:45am?  How long will it take me to get through customs and get to a shul in paris?  I saw that the Grand Synagogue has a minyan at 7:45am, could I make that?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2013, 04:41:07 PM
http://mendystransport.com/en/


For anyone looking for a ride Mendy was excellent. Always on time, nice big van with air and he's a super friendly guy.
Highly recommend.
Cost?

Yes we plan on going to paris for the day.  My question is will I have time to make it to a minyan in paris if we are landing at 5:45am?  How long will it take me to get through customs and get to a shul in paris?  I saw that the Grand Synagogue has a minyan at 7:45am, could I make that?
You can make it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 25, 2013, 04:50:29 PM
Cost?


My quote was 55 Euro. He came in to pick us up. This was for 2 people, 3 pieces of large luggage and 2 carry ons.
He also gave us tons of tips, and his number if we needed anything.  Very fast to respond.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2013, 04:52:53 PM
My quote was 55 Euro. He came in to pick us up. This was for 2 people, 3 pieces of large luggage and 2 carry ons.
He also gave us tons of tips, and his number if we needed anything.  Very fast to respond.
I'd do it with a kid no doubt, but what was the advantage over the RoissyBus otherwise?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 25, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
I'd do it with a kid no doubt, but what was the advantage over the RoissyBus otherwise?

I wouldn't usually do it because of cost. Especially because I ended up staying st the Intercontinental which is super close to the stop. It was a combination of getting sick the day before travelling, having a lot of luggage since I was continuing on to Israel for a month and a forecast of storms. 

 Just made the long trip a bit easier.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 06:05:31 PM
I wouldn't usually do it because of cost. Especially because I ended up staying st the Intercontinental which is super close to the stop. It was a combination of getting sick the day before travelling, having a lot of luggage since I was continuing on to Israel for a month and a forecast of storms. 

 Just made the long trip a bit easier.


so ur in israel? :D

amd whats his number?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on June 25, 2013, 06:07:49 PM
so ur in israel? :D

amd whats his number?

Not sure he wants it posted. But there should be a number on the site.
And I'm still on the way to Israel....
Thougb Venice has me wanting to buy a boat and stay put. ^-^
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 25, 2013, 06:18:07 PM
I'd do it with a kid no doubt, but what was the advantage over the RoissyBus otherwise?
+1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 06:40:56 PM
Not sure he wants it posted. But there should be a number on the site.
And I'm still on the way to Israel....
Thougb Venice has me wanting to buy a boat and stay put. ^-^

so when u comin in exactly? :)
come by boat. though the last flotilla that came in, didnt end to well 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 25, 2013, 06:56:20 PM
amd whats his number?

his number is on the wiki
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on June 26, 2013, 07:13:25 AM
Cost?

He quoted me 60 Euro but that is for a 10:45 PM arrival. The last Roissybus leaves at 11:00 PM.


Has anyone know how to get through to Darjeeling? They don´t answer their phone!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: basketnarb on June 26, 2013, 07:48:35 AM
You can make it.

So what's the best way to get there?  Will I make it if I just take Roissy Bus?
It seems like the Grand Synagogue is only a 10 minute walk from the Opera, sound about right?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on June 26, 2013, 10:12:07 AM
Has anyone know how to get through to Darjeeling? They don´t answer their phone!

+33142263535
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 26, 2013, 11:43:56 AM
So what's the best way to get there?  Will I make it if I just take Roissy Bus?
It seems like the Grand Synagogue is only a 10 minute walk from the Opera, sound about right?

Yes the Great Synagogue is only a short walk from Opera.  It is a beautiful building, but the main shul is only open on Shabbos I think.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MendyP on June 26, 2013, 03:52:25 PM
Anyone know the most cost effective way to get to Paris with amex points? Convert to miles? Trying to help a friend looking for last week of July....
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: runnergirl on June 27, 2013, 01:58:10 PM
We have two rooms booked at the Park Hyatt for our stay in July. My husband has Hyatt Diamond status. Do you think they will give us the free breakfast for both rooms that are booked under his name or just 1 room?  Anyone have experience with this?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on June 27, 2013, 02:11:40 PM
We have two rooms booked at the Park Hyatt for our stay in July. My husband has Hyatt Diamond status. Do you think they will give us the free breakfast for both rooms that are booked under his name or just 1 room?  Anyone have experience with this?

You will get just one room.  Had a reservation last month in both mine and my wifes name and we only got the breakfast for my reservation since only I was Diamond.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: runnergirl on June 27, 2013, 02:15:05 PM
Ok, good to know thanks. My mother will be with us and she is also Diamond so I will put her name on the other reservation. That should do the trick! (I hope!)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
You will get just one room.  Had a reservation last month in both mine and my wifes name and we only got the breakfast for my reservation since only I was Diamond.
Why didn't you book both rooms under your name?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: runnergirl on June 27, 2013, 02:34:29 PM
They we booked a long time ago and neither one of us had Diamond status then. I guess I could cxl and rebook but I didn't want to take the chance since I am using free suite nights we both got when we applied for the Hyatt card with our Diamond status. Just as an FYI, since my husband has Diamond status from Hilton, I figured I'd try my luck and apply for a 2nd Diamond status challenge for him and he GOT IT!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MendyP on June 30, 2013, 10:23:40 PM
Does anyone know which restaurants in Paris have Shabbat meals for which you pre pay and eat on site?

I believe Les Ailes used to do this, but it appears to have closed down. In looking through these 2 sites, it doesn't seem clear to me.
http://www.kosherinfrance.com/
http://www.123cacher.com/index_en.php

Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on July 01, 2013, 06:39:24 AM
thats it darjeeling reopen!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2013, 06:24:46 PM
thats it darjeeling reopen!!

Finally.

What's changed?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on July 01, 2013, 06:32:48 PM
Finally.

What's changed?

i dont know didnt go yet
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on July 02, 2013, 02:36:29 AM
i dont know didnt go yet
What's the correct address I'll be there today....
Thanks
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on July 02, 2013, 02:45:31 AM
What's the correct address I'll be there today....
Thanks



Darjeeling
1 rue des Colonels Renard
Paris 75017 France
Téléphone: 01 45 72 09 32
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on July 02, 2013, 04:32:20 PM


Darjeeling
1 rue des Colonels Renard
Paris 75017 France
Téléphone: 01 45 72 09 32
Darjeeling is open!
Going there tomorrow night :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on July 05, 2013, 06:03:12 AM
Cost?
You can make it.

Yes, but from experience I can tell you that the Grand Synagogue (La Victoire) often does not get a minyan on weekdays.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on July 07, 2013, 08:58:21 AM
My son has a 5 hour stop over in Paris flying with AA to JFK. I have a free pass to the United lounge, is that near to the American Airlines gates?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: RedRifle23 on July 11, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
Bonjour!  ;D
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: SLP on July 11, 2013, 03:20:43 PM
Any suggestions for a budget hotel in Paris? I'm not looking to use points for this stay (1 night).
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on July 11, 2013, 03:29:43 PM
Bonjour!  ;D
Um hi. Are you from Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: runnergirl on July 22, 2013, 10:12:18 AM
just spent 4 amazing days in paris at the PHP. as we walked out of the hotel on the way to chabad of the champs elysee for davening and lunch, a chabad rabbi stopped us to let us know that he recently opened a chabad house at #7 Rue De Paix next door to the PHP!  He took us up to see the shul and advised that he offers a free lunch every Shabbos for visitors. As we already had plans at Champs Elysee we went there but this is an amazing find. Right now I believe they only have a minyan on Friday night and Shabbos morning.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 22, 2013, 10:17:18 AM
Very interesting development...

I'd probably still go to Chabad Champs Elysees for at least one meal because the walk is so nice. But for those who don't want to shlep for both meals, this presents a great option.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: pghtown on August 28, 2013, 11:09:14 PM
Looking for reasonably-priced hotel near the Marais district. Anyone stay at the Campanile 11 Hotel which is 1/2 mile to the Jewish quarter? Any other suggestions near shuls?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on September 08, 2013, 03:47:10 PM
Looking for info on lounges in CDG. I have a united pass and Lounge Club Pass. Landing in terminal 3 and departing from 2A. I have a 4 hour wait. How long does it take to Get to Terminal 1? Are the 2 Lounges decent?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on September 08, 2013, 06:06:32 PM
Looking for info on lounges in CDG. I have a united pass and Lounge Club Pass. Landing in terminal 3 and departing from 2A. I have a 4 hour wait. How long does it take to Get to Terminal 1?

15min walk
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 08, 2013, 06:08:22 PM
No Darjeeling reports since they reopened?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on September 09, 2013, 11:00:42 AM
15min walk
any experience with the lounges mentioned? Are they nice? Are the convenient to get to them?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on September 09, 2013, 02:40:18 PM
any experience with the lounges mentioned? Are they nice? Are the convenient to get to them?

never been in this lounge
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on September 09, 2013, 03:53:47 PM
15min walk

Sorry OT but I gave relatives 2 UNited Club passes and in Zurich traveling Swiss they said they were no good. Did they get hustled.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on September 09, 2013, 04:09:38 PM

Sorry OT but I gave relatives 2 UNited Club passes and in Zurich traveling Swiss they said they were no good. Did they get hustled.

Was it a United Club?

The one time club passes are only good at United Clubs and not partner lounges.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on September 09, 2013, 04:16:00 PM
Was it a United Club?

The one time club passes are only good at United Clubs and not partner lounges.


I don't know if united has a club there .  But I thought there code share partners would accept it

Was yours a United club in CDG or the generic Star alliance one at terminal 1 ?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2013, 04:24:56 PM
I thought there code share partners would accept it
The passes state very clearly to the contrary.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on September 09, 2013, 04:46:02 PM
The passes state very clearly to the contrary.

That's the way the ball bounces I guess. I travel Biz Class so had no use for them.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Doge on September 09, 2013, 10:14:10 PM
No Darjeeling reports since they reopened?

My wife and I Just Came back from our trip in mid august and the newly renovated Darjeeling is great. I dont particularly like Indian food so I ordered the lamb chops as a main dish which were amazing and it was a large portion. The waiter was very helpful and nice. We also ordered other appetizers which were also great and my wife ordered Indian which she really enjoyed. It is a 10 minute walk from the arc de triomphe so a great location for us. I hope people go because it is a very good glatt restaurant with a mashgiach temidi on premises which is really hard to find in Paris!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on September 10, 2013, 04:59:24 PM
Any one have information on who is the kosher caterer on American Airline from CDG to JFK?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bookwrm on September 12, 2013, 03:42:41 AM
Anyone know where in the 19th I can get good cheese and some 88% chocolate? Hoping to head down there today between tours and don't want to get lost walking around
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on September 12, 2013, 06:14:42 AM
Anyone know where in the 19th I can get good cheese and some 88% chocolate? Hoping to head down there today between tours and don't want to get lost walking around

you could find every thing at RUE MANIN at Hyper Cacher and if they dont have chocolate walk to "Damyel" (chocolate store) same street
ask around every one knows
 
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on September 13, 2013, 07:24:33 AM
you could find every thing at RUE MANIN at Hyper Cacher and if they dont have chocolate walk to "Damyel" (chocolate store) same street
ask around every one knows

+1 damyel is awesome, best pareve chocolate i've ever had.
גמר חתימה טובה to everyone
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on October 15, 2013, 08:49:14 AM
Does anybody have info on this hotel the Sheraton Prince de Galles its the closest to the chabad house how's it for shabbos everything electric?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on October 15, 2013, 12:14:23 PM
Does anybody have info on this hotel the Sheraton Prince de Galles its the closest to the chabad house how's it for shabbos everything electric?

this is not the closest one but it is close from the chabad house
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on October 15, 2013, 12:17:27 PM
this is not the closest one but it is close from the chabad house
which is closer
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on October 15, 2013, 01:01:04 PM
which is closer

Hôtel Amarante Champs Elysées 1min walk
-Cristal Champs Elysées 3 min walk
-Hôtel Fouquet's Barrière Paris 3 min walk
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 16, 2013, 08:13:01 AM
anyone have any reviews on The Napoleon Hotel in paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 16, 2013, 08:15:35 AM
anyone have any reviews on The Napoleon Hotel in paris?
there are other hotels in Paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 16, 2013, 08:17:26 AM
there are other hotels in Paris?
i dont get it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 16, 2013, 08:20:16 AM
i dont get it.
It was a joke. Most people here stat at the park Hyatt
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 16, 2013, 08:26:57 AM
It was a joke. Most people here stat at the park Hyatt
sorry, i figured that is what you were saying. yes most people do, but when someone is paying for your stays then why waste free nights at the hyatt :D

my in laws are going for a shul wedding, and im curious about the hotel there staying at. im sure it aint to shabby....
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on October 16, 2013, 09:39:43 AM
Hôtel Amarante Champs Elysées 1min walk
-Cristal Champs Elysées 3 min walk
-Hôtel Fouquet's Barrière Paris 3 min walk
what about the Marriott?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on October 17, 2013, 05:50:52 AM
what about the Marriott?

5min walk
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 24, 2013, 06:20:28 AM
what time does the light show end?
Title: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2013, 07:57:56 PM
Tibs.
Meh. Many better places IMHO.
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: rots5 on October 27, 2013, 04:17:58 AM
Meh. Many better places IMHO.
on sat night we tried every possible place.  Gotta say was very solid. And plus it's close the arc/hotel
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: sky121 on October 27, 2013, 09:30:03 AM
on sat night we tried every possible place.  Gotta say was very solid. And plus it's close the arc/hotel

Is this a trip on the way home or just a fun get away?
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2013, 10:52:26 AM
Doesn't compare with other places like L'inte cafe.
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: rots5 on October 27, 2013, 09:54:01 PM
Is this a trip on the way home or just a fun get away?
a quick trip for a wedding.  Was a full weekend wedding. And I even missed the henna. 
Doesn't compare with other places like L'inte cafe.
I had no choice.  It's close to the hotel and open late.  Though I'm a huge fan of il Conte. Pittman is overrated.  And in laws like le'entrocote.
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: sky121 on October 27, 2013, 09:56:05 PM
Wedding in France ?
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
Yup, Il Conte is good.
Pitzman was great in 2010 and just stunk in 2012.
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: rots5 on October 28, 2013, 04:46:45 AM
Wedding in France ?
ya. Crazy sitch. Henna. Chabbat kala. Morning ceremony. Party at night.

Yup, Il Conte is good.
Pitzman was great in 2010 and just stunk in 2012.
ya. I liked il conte last time. Continue in Paris thread. I have a bunch to say. :)

Plus I have 5 extra train tickets.

Lastly posting from maple leaf lounge. I am starving anything I can eat.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 28, 2013, 05:12:31 AM
Any food I can eat here in cdg. E
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on October 28, 2013, 06:00:56 AM
Any food I can eat here in cdg. E

call 0660905845 is the chabad rabbi at the airport he knows where you can eat
Title: Re: Re: Where Are You Posting From Now?
Post by: sky121 on October 28, 2013, 07:34:06 AM
That's why I asked. I've been to two French weddings. Both were awesome. :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 28, 2013, 03:56:03 PM
call 0660905845 is the chabad rabbi at the airport he knows where you can eat
oh man,  too late. i knew i wanted to meet you.


i will try to write up a quick TR or some pointers people should be wary of.

i also have 5 extra train tickets i would love to get a few $ for them if at all possible. if not ill give them to you for free
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2013, 05:00:05 PM
Continue in Paris thread. I have a bunch to say. :)
Done.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 29, 2013, 02:58:51 AM
Done.
thanks.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on October 31, 2013, 07:52:38 PM
so i recently took a quick trip to paris for an extended weekend wedding.  i left on thurs from TLV at 5 pm and arrived in CDG at 10pm.

a few short pointers. never hange money in the airport. i forgot to change when i was in israel and i had no money, since i had to get to the hotel quick the train wasnt an option. i was approached my a jewish driver who gave me a price of 65 euro, issue was i had to change like 120$ for that :(

drive was nice and quick. i stayed at the Napoleon hotel on friedland (next to the arc) it def fit the bill of a french hotel. expensive and fancy. rooms were small but was def a plesent stay there.

on thurs night since i got to the hotel to late my wife and i (along with my BIL and my son) took a taxi to the eiffel tower, we saw the beloved light show and walked back to the hotel. it was a beautiful night and was only like a 25 min walk.

on fri, i went to contini and k-market not far from the hotel. contini had delicious pastries, and k market is a great full out kosher super market.

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its nice to know theres some good kosher wine in town
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then later on that friday, i went to Le mrias. took the metro 9 stops (which was a breeze).
note: anyone with a stroller basically can ride the metro free. just need to buzz in the stroller and you go along with it....
we went to korkaz and i got a falafal from the same place lenny kravitz got his. then after i went back tot he efel tower for some day pics and my wifes cousin wanted to go too.

falafal
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sat night my BIL wanted to go to Sacre Coeur and Montmartre, which was a disaster. its full of drugs and crazy people there. my MIL was so nervous bec some arabs followed us and was talking loud about us behind her...so we saw the place took a pic and left to le merias, thinking wed get food.....


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we got to le merias and everything was closed, we met eliyahu hanavie and he remembered there was a tibs near us and so we listened to him and went. it was very solid food. the only issue is they didnt have nay english menu's, and there weefee was very slow....

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on my way home from tibs
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sunday morning we had a wedding ceremony in le merias shul. it was a magnificent shul..gorgeous!
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then i went with all the family on a disastrous 4 train one bus trip to Versailles. never go on sunday unless you take a cab (they do construction) and monday there closed.
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then we got back for the wedding.... since its the first ive ever seen liek this i will post a pic...

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and then our flight home the next morning at 1130 am

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Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 02, 2013, 09:29:14 PM
I noticed that the wiki mentioned the park Hyatt breakfast not worth asking for anymore. When I stayed there back in May 2013 for three days the breakfasts were awesome! Aside for the standard bagels, coffee, Danishes etc that they get from the local bakery, they also gave us a continental breakfast credit at the restaurant downstairs. So bedsides for the open bar we were able to order freshly squeezed juice and salads. However, on the last day we requested omelets bagels and juice and they got that from a local restaurant for us.
As far as Shabbis, there is a Chabad house next door to the park Hyatt and they host Shabbis meals there. I'm not sure if they have meals there every week, but if requested then they make arrangements.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 02, 2013, 10:10:20 PM
I noticed that the wiki mentioned the park Hyatt breakfast not worth asking for anymore. When I stayed there back in May 2013 for three days the breakfasts were awesome! Aside for the standard bagels, coffee, Danishes etc that they get from the local bakery, they also gave us a continental breakfast credit at the restaurant downstairs. So bedsides for the open bar we were able to order freshly squeezed juice and salads. However, on the last day we requested omelets bagels and juice and they got that from a local restaurant for us.
Good to hear.  I made a stink with their new policy after my December '12 stay.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on November 02, 2013, 10:18:18 PM
I noticed that the wiki mentioned the park Hyatt breakfast not worth asking for anymore. When I stayed there back in May 2013 for three days the breakfasts were awesome! Aside for the standard bagels, coffee, Danishes etc that they get from the local bakery, they also gave us a continental breakfast credit at the restaurant downstairs. So bedsides for the open bar we were able to order freshly squeezed juice and salads. However, on the last day we requested omelets bagels and juice and they got that from a local restaurant for us.

I stayed there at the end of May and the breakfast was danishes/rolls along with some cholov yisroel milk.   They did bring us some juice that they said was freshly squeezed but had no way of verifying that.  There were no omelets or any sort of credit at the restaurant.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on November 02, 2013, 10:34:50 PM
Did u ask for it?
FYI before Shabbis I actually asked them to have a fruit platter delivered to the room Friday night and Shabbis afternoon. Complimentary of course.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: seemorehabs on November 07, 2013, 10:51:16 AM
staying in paris for business 3 full days and 2 nights, looking for hotel walking distance to kosher food and shul.
any recommendations of hotel and a cant miss food?
lastly, best medium priced restaurant in paris?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Bp on November 09, 2013, 11:34:22 PM
Have a 4 hour stopover in CDG midday, what's my best option for a glatt meat restaurant?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 09, 2013, 11:50:24 PM
Have a 4 hour stopover in CDG midday, what's my best option for a glatt meat restaurant?
That's cutting it real tight. Maybe if you took a cab both ways you could make it
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Bp on November 09, 2013, 11:52:27 PM
@Ergel
Obviosly
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 09, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
@Ergel
Obviosly
Darjeeling was excellent. I didn't find any other nice glatt restaurant
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 10, 2013, 02:06:53 AM
Have a 4 hour stopover in CDG midday, what's my best option for a glatt meat restaurant?
4 hrs? wow thats cutting it real close... personally u might wanna train it to the first stop then cab, train to cut out all the highway traffic
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 10, 2013, 07:11:44 AM
Darjeeling was excellent. I didn't find any other nice glatt restaurant
is that place still around?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on November 10, 2013, 07:54:23 AM
is that place still around?

yes they reopen
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on November 28, 2013, 09:00:23 PM
Hey i need to get a room in a hotel in paris for one week
Can someone explain me how it works if i want to use millage
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on November 28, 2013, 10:02:49 PM
Hey i need to get a room in a hotel in paris for one week
Can someone explain me how it works if i want to use millage
Thanks!!!

Mileage? Or hotel points?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on November 29, 2013, 12:45:32 AM
Mileage? Or hotel points?

I guess hotel points
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: c1sarena on December 13, 2013, 03:20:49 PM
Has anyone ever stayed here or have any information?
Hotel de la Tremoille
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 13, 2013, 03:22:07 PM
Has anyone ever stayed here or have any information?
Hotel de la Tremoille
Welcome to DDF!
Never heard of it.  How much are you paying?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: ShlomoM on December 14, 2013, 08:38:37 PM
Welcome to DDF!
Never heard of it.  How much are you paying?
When did you start handing out welcome packages? :p
Seems like great location, can't help though never stayed at this place but curious too if your paying the full rate
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: tzvicoco on December 15, 2013, 09:37:04 AM
I'm going to be in paris in January from 8:30 AM - 10:30 PM. I want to hit up all of the main sites, and enjoy some good kosher food along the way. What's the best one-day route to go about Paris, bearing in mind access to Kosher food?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 15, 2013, 09:54:58 AM
Many of the trip reports on here begin (and may end) to answer your question.

Why not take a quick gander, and ask any pointed questions?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: c1sarena on December 17, 2013, 08:57:47 AM
We are paying quite a bit I believe but we needed the option of 3 people per room as didn't want to pay for 2 rooms. We went throughou LHR from our platinum card if I remember correctly.

And hotels during Xmas week are quite costly....
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 17, 2013, 05:04:32 PM
I'm going to be in paris in January from 8:30 AM - 10:30 PM. I want to hit up all of the main sites, and enjoy some good kosher food along the way. What's the best one-day route to go about Paris, bearing in mind access to Kosher food?
read my trip report. i did very similar...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Gords on December 24, 2013, 02:09:14 PM
Hi,

I will be in Paris for three days-December 31, January 1st,and January 2nd. Has anyone been in Paris on New Year's Eve? Is there anything special to do? As well, I will be staying at Renaissance Paris Le Parc Trocadero Hotel( 16th). Has anyone been there?

I have a general question as well. My friend booked the hotel on his marriot points under his name and added my name as well. Will I have any trouble checking in my wife?  Should she not come to the checkout counter?

I have read all the trip reports and they have been a great help. Any more help for newbie traveler  :) would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 24, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
Hi,

I will be in Paris for three days-December 31, January 1st,and January 2nd. Has anyone been in Paris on New Year's Eve? Is there anything special to do? As well, I will be staying at Renaissance Paris Le Parc Trocadero Hotel( 16th). Has anyone been there?

I have a general question as well. My friend booked the hotel on his marriot points under his name and added my name as well. Will I have any trouble checking in my wife?  Should she not come to the checkout counter?

I have read all the trip reports and they have been a great help. Any more help for newbie traveler  :) would be appreciated.
have fun!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 01, 2014, 06:54:58 AM
Hi,

I will be in Paris for three days-December 31, January 1st,and January 2nd. Has anyone been in Paris on New Year's Eve? Is there anything special to do? As well, I will be staying at Renaissance Paris Le Parc Trocadero Hotel( 16th). Has anyone been there?

I have a general question as well. My friend booked the hotel on his marriot points under his name and added my name as well. Will I have any trouble checking in my wife?  Should she not come to the checkout counter?

I have read all the trip reports and they have been a great help. Any more help for newbie traveler  :) would be appreciated.

Shouldn't have any issue.

Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: tzvicoco on January 05, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
read my trip report. i did very similar...
Thanks, I think I'm going to do a hop-on hop-off bus. I need a place for lunch near Arc de Triomphe, and dinner near either the Louvre or Notre Dame, with reliable kashrus. Is Darjeeling good for lunch? And what are some dinner favorites? I'm going to first arrive by the Notre Dame, will likely grab breakfast at Murciano Benguigui's Bakery, unless somebody has a more tasty recommendation :)
Also, how much of a "must" is la marina, and the various chocolate shops around 19? It would take like 1/2 hour to get there, no? I feel like I'm probably better off sticking to the city center and using my time for the hop-on hop-off, but I still want to get some good pastries and/or chocolates.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on January 08, 2014, 03:04:28 PM
Try Damyel for chocolate, there's one in the 9th (Rue Richer). Best pareve chocolate i've ever tasted. As for hop-on bus, i'd avoid it, the traffic on the streets is very bad and the metro is fast and there are stations everywhere.

Thanks, I think I'm going to do a hop-on hop-off bus. I need a place for lunch near Arc de Triomphe, and dinner near either the Louvre or Notre Dame, with reliable kashrus. Is Darjeeling good for lunch? And what are some dinner favorites? I'm going to first arrive by the Notre Dame, will likely grab breakfast at Murciano Benguigui's Bakery, unless somebody has a more tasty recommendation :)
Also, how much of a "must" is la marina, and the various chocolate shops around 19? It would take like 1/2 hour to get there, no? I feel like I'm probably better off sticking to the city center and using my time for the hop-on hop-off, but I still want to get some good pastries and/or chocolates.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on January 13, 2014, 06:22:22 PM
Trying to reserve a room with my 2 free hyatt nights and the PH Vendome is not available.
I know the Madeleine is cat 6 and the du Lourve is a cat 5 but overall which is the better choice.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: YankyDoodle on January 14, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
Trying to reserve a room with my 2 free hyatt nights and the PH Vendome is not available.
I know the Madeleine is cat 6 and the du Lourve is a cat 5 but overall which is the better choice.

The PH often goes in and out of availability. Keep checking on it, especially as you get closer to the actual date. Of course you can keep another hotel as a backup if you're concerned.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on January 14, 2014, 06:22:54 PM
That's exactly what I'm doing but as a backup which of the two above Hyatt's should I go with.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on January 16, 2014, 09:48:28 AM
I have a 20€ off promo code for the City Segway tours.
Question, will it bother them if I reserve seperatly for me and my wife so we can both take advantage of the 20€ off?, Has anyone tried it?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 16, 2014, 09:49:56 AM
I have a 20€ off promo code for the City Segway tours.
Question, will it bother them if I reserve seperatly for me and my wife so we can both take advantage of the 20€ off?, Has anyone tried it?

I'm pretty sure I know someone who did it without a hitch (with a better code than you have).
What's the new code?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on January 16, 2014, 10:01:56 AM
WINTERGLIDE20OFF

Do you have a better one?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on January 20, 2014, 05:49:37 AM
any places in rue de rosiers that would have some decent type of food for taking on the plane?
some type of wraps? sandwiches? i don't want to start sitting at some resteraunts.. just want to grab some takeaway and go..
i am having a short stop-over and then an evening flight out of CDG, want to grab some food for the way... suggestions appreciated.. speak your mind out..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2014, 08:38:22 AM
Felafel from L’As Du Fallafel
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on January 20, 2014, 08:42:22 AM
Hmm.. I planned to eat falafel there anyway.. But was looking for sometype of sandwich or something...
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 20, 2014, 08:46:54 AM
WINTERGLIDE20OFF

Do you have a better one?
Used to. They expired. If you find another one, the codes stack
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 20, 2014, 05:14:35 PM
Felafel from L’As Du Fallafel
cbs will say it wasnt good... (he has messed up taste buds) :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MC on January 20, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
Don't rem the name but there's a deli right across from the falafel place that does a good take out. We got chicken sandwiches from them and ate on top of the Eiffel Tower at sunset 😃
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deal boy on February 04, 2014, 01:55:17 PM
WINTERGLIDE20OFF

that doesnt seem to work now does anyone have any others or know where to find them
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on February 04, 2014, 02:04:03 PM
Don't rem the name but there's a deli right across from the falafel place that does a good take out. We got chicken sandwiches from them and ate on top of the Eiffel Tower at sunset 😃

I think it's called Mickey's Deli.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 04, 2014, 02:55:33 PM
I think it's called Mickey's Deli.

yup
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deal boy on February 19, 2014, 02:38:48 PM
i need a cheap good hotel in paris any ideas?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MC on February 19, 2014, 02:44:44 PM
i need a cheap good hotel in paris any ideas?

With points or without?
If you want to pay $ (and don't care so much about luxury), I once stayed with a friend at the Hotel Vivienne. It's close to the metro station Gran Boulevard so it was really easy to get around Paris. It was clean, but small rooms. Very friendly staff. I think around 100 euros a night.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deal boy on February 19, 2014, 03:11:46 PM
thnx and i do have ur points any other place i can get with few points?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deal boy on February 19, 2014, 03:14:07 PM
and what area is the best to stay in ? i am thinking of doing priceline or hot wire couse im going for 3 nights and i dont want to spend to much . and are they all safe for jews?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 19, 2014, 03:19:22 PM
and are they all safe for jews?

yes
Title: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MC on February 21, 2014, 04:56:04 PM
and what area is the best to stay in ? i am thinking of doing priceline or hot wire couse im going for 3 nights and i dont want to spend to much . and are they all safe for jews?

They're all safe. If you're pricelining I would recommend that you look for a hotel that's not necessarily near the main attractions but that's walkable to a metro stop, this way you'll be only a few minutes from everything but it'll be a little cheaper
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: zw on March 03, 2014, 02:17:02 PM
from what terminal can you pickup the roissybus?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 03, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
from what terminal can you pickup the roissybus?

5 places
T3, T2AC, T2EF, T2BD, T1

times
From 6:00am to 8:45 : every 15 minutes
From 8h45 to 11:00 : every 20 minutes
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: zw on March 04, 2014, 02:01:12 AM
5 places
T3, T2AC, T2EF, T2BD, T1

times
From 6:00am to 8:45 : every 15 minutes
From 8h45 to 11:00 : every 20 minutes
TUVM!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on March 05, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
there is glatt sometimes in many of these restaurants you must be careful and speak to the rav and its only on request.

but in general the rule is no meat (maybe except for Japan) is as good as USA meat.
the grade is just so much better


stick to chicken or duck.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on March 05, 2014, 02:57:07 PM
there is glatt sometimes in many of these restaurants you must be careful and speak to the rav and its only on request.

but in general the rule is no meat (maybe except for Japan) is as good as USA meat.
the grade is just so much better


stick to chicken or duck.


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Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: farmbochur on March 11, 2014, 01:33:13 PM
Mrs. Farmbochur and I planning a four day (over the weekend) trip to Paris in May.  We'll be staying at the Park Hyatt.  This will be my first major burning of points and I am eager to get the most out of them.  I have tons of questions about the trip and I was hoping that some of you more experienced DDFer's could help me out.

My first concern is food, particularly over shabbos.

What is the most effective way of requesting Kosher Breakfast?  Also, Is there any way to get food for Shabbos morning? (ie. can they have something delivered on Fri afternoon?)

Is there a place where we could buy Challah and other prepared foods to enjoy in our room over Shabbos?  Ideally this place would be in close proximity to a metro line.

I have lots of other questions but I'll start with these.

TIA
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 11, 2014, 01:40:25 PM
Mrs. Farmbochur and I planning a four day (over the weekend) trip to Paris in May.  We'll be staying at the Park Hyatt.  This will be my first major burning of points and I am eager to get the most out of them.  I have tons of questions about the trip and I was hoping that some of you more experienced DDFer's could help me out.

My first concern is food, particularly over shabbos.

What is the most effective way of requesting Kosher Breakfast?  Also, Is there any way to get food for Shabbos morning? (ie. can they have something delivered on Fri afternoon?)

Is there a place where we could buy Challah and other prepared foods to enjoy in our room over Shabbos?  Ideally this place would be in close proximity to a metro line.

I have lots of other questions but I'll start with these.

TIA

There is a Wiki stickied on this thread with a lot of info regarding food, etc. One suggestion is Korcakz (sp?) Bakery and also check out Chabad or Great Synagogue for Shabbos morning. Chabad is a further but offers a prepaid Shabbos meal, whereas the Great Synagogue is much closer (10-15 min walk) but without the prepaid meal. That's just a start. Enjoy your trip.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: waterpri on March 12, 2014, 09:22:59 AM
Stayed there last year in May over shabbos.  Shabbos is very long in Paris during May (ends around 11pm).  Would echo the chabad recommendation - very enjoyable and good, hot food.  Korcarz is an option for breakfast.  Also, the 9th district is a 10 minute walk from the hotel and there are some stores there that sell challahs and other things.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: deal boy on March 17, 2014, 08:53:26 AM
any idea about buses to orly?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: yhakak on March 17, 2014, 05:04:30 PM
any idea about buses to orly?

http://www.lescarsairfrance.com/en/our-network/plan-line-1.html
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bay on March 20, 2014, 11:52:19 AM
we will be going to paris for 2 days in the beginning of April with our 1.5 year old baby. we hope to go to versailles one day and tour around paris the second day. any suggestions where to go and where to avoid going with a toddler? any tips would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on March 20, 2014, 12:40:48 PM
we will be going to paris for 2 days in the beginning of April with our 1.5 year old baby. we hope to go to versailles one day and tour around paris the second day. any suggestions where to go and where to avoid going with a toddler? any tips would be greatly appreciated!

I'd skip Versailles and just stay in Paris both days. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bay on March 20, 2014, 12:52:47 PM
I'd skip Versailles and just stay in Paris both days. Just a thought.
why do you suggest that? from what i read on the trip reports versailles is not to be missed..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2014, 12:55:58 PM
why do you suggest that? from what i read on the trip reports versailles is not to be missed..
On a 4 day trip, sure.
But not on a 2 day trip.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MC on March 20, 2014, 12:58:18 PM
On a 4 day trip, sure.
But not on a 2 day trip.

+1 There's so much to see in Paris itself, even a week wasn't enough for me!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on March 20, 2014, 01:03:49 PM
+1 There's so much to see in Paris itself, even a week wasn't enough for me!
+1
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bay on March 20, 2014, 01:19:47 PM
On a 4 day trip, sure.
But not on a 2 day trip.
we planned on going to arc de  triomphe, lourve (we are not into art just gotta see the mona lisa!), Champs-Élysées, and of course the eiffel tower (which we tried booking tickets online but nothings available for the next 3 months!) anything we missed? is it too much for one day?
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MC on March 20, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
we planned on going to arc de  triomphe, lourve (we are not into art just gotta see the mona lisa!), Champs-Élysées, and of course the eiffel tower (which we tried booking tickets online but nothings available for the next 3 months!) anything we missed? is it too much for one day?

If you start at the Louvre in the morning, walk down from there to the Champs Elysees, to the Arc de Triomphe... and then the Eiffel Tower at night (try climbing it!) you should be good. Make sure you are there when the tower sparkles at night - I think it's every hour on the hour. Definitely something to see :)
There's a lot more to see in Paris. Little districts with great shopping, sites with a lot of history behind them, and tons of museums etc. But if you're just looking to cover the basics, I think you've got it.
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2014, 03:00:50 PM
If you start at the Louvre in the morning, walk down from there to the Champs Elysees, to the Arc de Triomphe... and then the Eiffel Tower at night (try climbing it!) you should be good. Make sure you are there when the tower sparkles at night - I think it's every hour on the hour. Definitely something to see :)
Lol.
I'm getting the picture you haven't traveled with an 18 month old anytime recently ;)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: MC on March 20, 2014, 03:33:00 PM
Lol.
I'm getting the picture you haven't traveled with an 18 month old anytime recently ;)

Oops missed the part in the question about the 1 1/2 year old... You are most correct :)
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: bay on March 20, 2014, 03:45:46 PM
Oops missed the part in the question about the 1 1/2 year old... You are most correct :)
which part is 'most correct' besides for climbing up the eiffel tower? or is that the only thing..
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2014, 03:48:51 PM
which part is 'most correct' besides for climbing up the eiffel tower? or is that the only thing..
Does your child not need a nap or 2? That schedule is doable for 2 adults but seems beyond impossible with a kid.
Also do you plan on climbing the arc with the kid?  Hope you're in good shape!
Title: Re: Paris Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on March 20, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
Does your child not need a nap or 2? That schedule is doable for 2 adults but seems beyond impossible with a kid.
Als