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Title: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Traveler718 on May 18, 2012, 05:31:54 PM
I can't believe that Florence doesn't seem to have its own thread, just assorted mentions in the Venice and Rome forums. Looking for Florence for 2 days midweek - am I correct that there's no minyan there except on Shabbos? And I see Ruth's Kitchen, but it's under the supervision of the local Chief Rabbi. Does anybody have any information about whether it's reliable or better to stay away?

Any recommendations for lodging? And as far as activities, I'm planning to see Ufizzi and Academie, Pitti Palace, Ponte Vecchio, and the shul/museum. Any other must sees? Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 18, 2012, 06:05:42 PM
I can't believe that Florence doesn't seem to have its own thread, just assorted mentions in the Venice and Rome forums. Looking for Florence for 2 days midweek - am I correct that there's no minyan there except on Shabbos? And I see Ruth's Kitchen, but it's under the supervision of the local Chief Rabbi. Does anybody have any information about whether it's reliable or better to stay away?

Any recommendations for lodging? And as far as activities, I'm planning to see Ufizzi and Academie, Pitti Palace, Ponte Vecchio, and the shul/museum. Any other must sees? Thanks!
I was recommended to stay away, YLORMV.

I think you got everything.

In my pre ddf days I stayed at hotel axial in the middle of the pedestrian area in the middle of town for $115/night. Nothing special but it got the job done
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on May 19, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
theres a market not too far from the shul that sells and heats up prepackaged rustichelli meals

i would download rick steves free city audio guide for a tour which ends at ponte vecchio. you can also get a nice view from the bell tower near the cathedral

there is also a jewish tour of florence, but as i didnt go on it, i cannot recommend either way
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 19, 2012, 10:02:10 PM
I took a city tour, interesting and reasonably priced.
Also there it's a hill overlooking the city which is pretty
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 25, 2012, 02:38:18 PM
An excerpt from my trip report: "    Florence- A beautiful city. Some would call it the art capitol of the world. There is no full time shliach only on Shabbos and tourist season. There is a kosher restaurant called Ruth’s and around the corner a kosher market that sells sandwiches and sometimes pizza (hechsher?). Didn’t eat at either so I can’t report on the food. The 3 most famous museums are the Uffizi, pitti, and achedamia. I was fortunate to get there for culture week when every museum in Italy is free so I am not sure about prices for these museums. Uffizi has more sculptures than I knew existed in the world. There were some notable ones that I am sure everyone knows from gemara and Jewish history so those are cool to see and put a name with a face. The ceiling is stunning too it is an amazing museum although a bit repetitive and long. Don’t get me wrong I would encourage everyone to go there it is really amazing how detailed and realistic these thousands of years old sculptures are. The Pitti is a modern art museum, (do not be confused with the modern art of nowadays when they say modern they mean the time period of the the 1800’s). The art was very nice. The whole museum can probably be done in 30 min. maybe stretched out to an hour in general I always skip portraits because they bore me to death. The museum Achedamia is one of the reasons I went to Florence to see Michelangelo’s famous David. David definitely lived up to expectations it was the most beautiful sculpture I have ever seen in my life and this is after seeing about 500 at the Uffizi. The rest of the city is just plain pretty with a river flowing through the middle random sculptures all over and a ton more museums which I unfortunately did not have time to see… The Ponte Vecchio Bridge is famous nice walk but nothing to special in my opinion, just a ton of expensive jewelry I will never buy. Parking is a bit hard to find but it’s not too expensive once you do. The Portuguese shul is right next to the kosher places and is stunning definitely a must see. The leather market is very neat. There is one vender who is in love with Jews especially if you are wearing a yalmuka. He literally sold me stuff 30 euro cheaper than everyone else even with bargaining. You may need to shmooz with him but it’s worth it. IIRC His name is Marko just ask for him, he is the one that loves Israel. There may be 2 leather markets so make sure you are at the one closest to the Uffizi museum. There is also an antique market but it’s not nearly as large and varied as the one in Warsaw. I wish I had more time for other museums in Florence. I heard there is an amazing museum full of different types of war armors. Next time…"
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Mtl18 on October 25, 2012, 11:48:56 AM
I'm planning on taking an early Thursday morning train to Florence (from Rome) and getting in one day there before moving onto venice.

I'd like to see the Accademia, Uffize and the synagogue, and then probably do a rick steve self guided tour/walk.

Q) I'll be in Venice from Friday morning to Tuesday noon. Do you suggest staying overnight in Florence Thursday night or moving onto venice thursday night instead?

How does it work to see the shul? are there tours? about how long should I put aside for this?

Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Traveler718 on October 25, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
I would recommend staying overnight in Florence. It's a gorgeous city with a lot of charm and lots to see, and I wouldn't want to have to fly through it in order to make a train to Venice, especially if you're waking up that morning in Rome.

When we were there in the spring the shul didn't have guided tours. You just paid your admission fee and explored yourself. You don't need more than an hour to see it all, but also keep in mind that it's not in the same part of Florence as many of the other attractions and is a solid 10-15 minute walk each way from most everything else.
Title: Re: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on October 25, 2012, 12:10:14 PM
I would recommend staying overnight in Florence. It's a gorgeous city with a lot of charm and lots to see, and I wouldn't want to have to fly through it in order to make a train to Venice, especially if you're waking up that morning in Rome.

When we were there in the spring the shul didn't have guided tours. You just paid your admission fee and explored yourself. You don't need more than an hour to see it all, but also keep in mind that it's not in the same part of Florence as many of the other attractions and is a solid 10-15 minute walk each way from most everything else.
+1, especially since as it is in think you have too much time in Venice
Keep in mind the shul is only open every other half hour (the other half hour you cash check out the museum but not that much to see)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Mtl18 on October 25, 2012, 12:18:52 PM
A stayover it is. Hotels are much cheaper in Florence, could find for <40$ a night :) I saw Ruths mentioned above. Is it reliable hechsher?

Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jj1000 on October 25, 2012, 12:19:45 PM
I would recommend staying overnight in Florence. It's a gorgeous city with a lot of charm and lots to see, and I wouldn't want to have to fly through it in order to make a train to Venice, especially if you're waking up that morning in Rome.

When we were there in the spring the shul didn't have guided tours. You just paid your admission fee and explored yourself. You don't need more than an hour to see it all, but also keep in mind that it's not in the same part of Florence as many of the other attractions and is a solid 10-15 minute walk each way from most everything else.
+1

Also I like your plan for the city that's basically the most important stuff. I would suggest being on one of the bridges for sunset to watch it over the river I got some beautiful pictures there. If you plan on going to the leather market I posted in my trip report the name of a guy who loves Jews and will sell you at basically cost value if you shmooze with him.

A stayover it is. Hotels are much cheaper in Florence, could find for <40$ a night :) I saw Ruths mentioned above. Is it reliable hechsher?


I saw many frum people eating there. Although I'm not sure who the hechsher is under.
Title: Re: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on October 25, 2012, 12:21:36 PM
A stayover it is. Hotels are much cheaper in Florence, could find for <40$ a night :) I saw Ruths mentioned above. Is it reliable hechsher?
Depends who you ask
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yossi. on October 25, 2012, 12:25:09 PM
I would recommend staying overnight in Florence. It's a gorgeous city with a lot of charm and lots to see, and I wouldn't want to have to fly through it in order to make a train to Venice, especially if you're waking up that morning in Rome.

When we were there in the spring the shul didn't have guided tours. You just paid your admission fee and explored yourself. You don't need more than an hour to see it all, but also keep in mind that it's not in the same part of Florence as many of the other attractions and is a solid 10-15 minute walk each way from most everything else.
+1 but it is a very nice walk through the smalls streets... don't forget to grab a bite at Ruth (on the same street as the synagogue). I'm not sure if they still have it (I was there 3 years ago) but they had a great student lunch with pizza or pasta and desert and drink for 10 euros :)

I also did not get a guided tour of the synagogue but I saw a group inside with a guide (not sure if it was a guide from the synagogue or the group itself though...) Anyways, if you go upstairs, there is a lady that just loves talking to visitors and she can explain you whatever you want...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: world2see on October 25, 2012, 02:51:40 PM
when i was there a couple years back there was a minyan on mondays and thursdays in the small room to the side of the main shul, the shul itself is really nice. there was a small kosher grocery up the block from the shul. as for the town it can all be done in one day,not too large,really nice. the Westin was a nice hotel if your looking
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2014, 06:00:39 PM
With the three museums mentioned above, would it be crazy to only spend 1/2 day in Florence (as well as overnight)?

We're planning on going in the early summer so I expect crowds, but is it worth battling them to see David at the Academie?

Can anyone report back on the Rick Steve's guided tour? Was it good?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on January 05, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
With the three museums mentioned above, would it be crazy to only spend 1/2 day in Florence (as well as overnight)?

We're planning on going in the early summer so I expect crowds, but is it worth battling them to see David at the Academie?
Yes.
I would dedicate a full day or most of it. Take a city tour. See the David. See the shul.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2014, 06:14:18 PM
Yes.
I would dedicate a full day or most of it. Take a city tour. See the David. See the shul.

So it's worth it to try to get to Florence early morning and spend most of the day instead of spending more time in Tuscany?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on January 05, 2014, 06:43:45 PM
So it's worth it to try to get to Florence early morning and spend most of the day instead of spending more time in Tuscany?
Never been to Tuscany but those three activities plus getting to the lookout point over the city are must do's in Florence. Depends on your priorities. I happen to favor nature over city stuff so maybe more time in Tuscany
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2014, 07:04:54 PM
Never been to Tuscany but those three activities plus getting to the lookout point over the city are must do's in Florence. Depends on your priorities. I happen to favor nature over city stuff so maybe more time in Tuscany
+1 to nature. I guess I have time to plan the exact details. Where did you stay in Florence?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on January 05, 2014, 07:09:10 PM
My pre-DD days
Hotel name: Axial Hotel Florence
Address:
Via dei Calzaiuoli, 11
Florence, IT 50122
$232 total for two nights with Orbitz coupon
Got there late Wednesday night. Left Friday morning
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 05, 2014, 07:31:16 PM
My pre-DD days
Hotel name: Axial Hotel Florence
Address:
Via dei Calzaiuoli, 11
Florence, IT 50122
$232 total for two nights with Orbitz coupon
Got there late Wednesday night. Left Friday morning
Would you stay there now it at the Westin Excelsior Florence for 25k/night? Was the Axial nice?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on January 05, 2014, 10:58:42 PM

+1 to nature. I guess I have time to plan the exact details. Where did you stay in Florence?
it depends who u are traveling with; florence is a very romantic city, if ur traveling with a spouse/special other than consider doing more days there. If going with a buddy, just lettin u know the museums are cool but mostly consist of naked paintings of woman and naked baby yoshke.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on January 05, 2014, 11:04:43 PM
Would you stay there now it at the Westin Excelsior Florence for 25k/night? Was the Axial nice?
No. It was small and clean. Nothing more. If I had spg to burn would stay at westin. Otherwise the axial was fine and a GREAT location
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 06, 2014, 12:26:39 AM
it depends who u are traveling with; florence is a very romantic city, if ur traveling with a spouse/special other than consider doing more days there. If going with a buddy, just lettin u know the museums are cool but mostly consist of naked paintings of woman and naked baby yoshke.
I'm going with my wife. Maybe we'll take your suggestion. We have to talk about it more.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 06, 2014, 12:27:38 AM
No. It was small and clean. Nothing more. If I had spg to burn would stay at westin. Otherwise the axial was fine and a GREAT location
I have enough points for the Westin, just don't know if it's worth 25k. I normally prefer staying at category 4 & 5 hotels.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on January 06, 2014, 01:14:16 AM
25k seems like a lot of points, i would try the priceline/hotwire route
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 06, 2014, 01:15:02 AM
25k seems like a lot of points, i would try the priceline/hotwire route

Kinda what I was thinking, thanks!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 18, 2014, 11:43:20 PM
Has anyone stayed at the Firenze Number Nine hotel in Florence?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: MaaYanky on March 24, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
Please see the wiki I added and add info/topics to help people get the most out of their trip :)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on March 24, 2014, 11:29:31 AM
Please see the wiki I added and add info/topics to help people get the most out of their trip :)
If you are serious about this (AKA-you have a trip lined up and need help), why don't you go through the threads that you are creating these blank wikis about and populate the wikis yourself and then someone will help you.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on March 24, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
The kosher rest. has really bad hecsher
Not sure if owner married yid bichlal
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 24, 2014, 04:52:48 PM
The kosher rest. has really bad hecsher
Not sure if owner married yid bichlal
How many hechsheim are there in Florence anyway? This place is dairy/pareve, what makes it not reliable?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on March 24, 2014, 07:22:52 PM
How many hechsheim are there in Florence anyway?
None
Quote
This place is dairy/pareve, what makes it not reliable?
I was advised not to eat there as well
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moishe1 on March 24, 2014, 11:14:57 PM
in florence the shul and community is officially orthodox but thats where it ends, so i would not trust anything that has the rabbis hechsher there
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 25, 2014, 01:04:14 AM
in florence the shul and community is officially orthodox but thats where it ends, so i would not trust anything that has the rabbis hechsher there
Is there any kosher food in Florence besides Ruth's?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on March 25, 2014, 01:05:23 AM
Is there any kosher food in Florence besides Ruth's?
No
There is a small chabad supermarket that sells some odds and ends
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 25, 2014, 01:06:29 AM
No
There is a small chabad supermarket that sells some odds and ends
So I'd have to stock up in Rome or Venice? That's a bummer.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on March 25, 2014, 01:10:10 AM
So I'd have to stock up in Rome or Venice? That's a bummer.
How long do you have planned in Florence?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 25, 2014, 01:11:02 AM
How long do you have planned in Florence?
From late Wednesday night through early Friday morning.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: MaaYanky on March 25, 2014, 08:22:11 AM
If you are serious about this (AKA-you have a trip lined up and need help), why don't you go through the threads that you are creating these blank wikis about and populate the wikis yourself and then someone will help you.
Instead of people asking the same questions over and over, wouldn't it be great if the wiki said it all? The hope is that the educated will fill it in and it'll get updated as needed.
I'm going in a few days so I hope to fill it in.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: bentch on March 25, 2014, 09:31:11 AM
btw, the kosher supermarket closed down. was just there last month and all that is left is ruth's. will post TR in near future.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 25, 2014, 11:08:51 AM
Any updates on the kosher situation there would be a great help.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: bentch on March 26, 2014, 02:56:16 AM
just ruth's. open 12-2:30 and 7:30-10.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 26, 2014, 10:53:10 AM
just ruth's. open 12-2:30 and 7:30-10.
I was kind of talking about the hashgacha reliability of Ruth's...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on March 26, 2014, 10:58:55 AM
I was kind of talking about the hashgacha reliability of Ruth's...
Not sure what you are looking for. If you are looking for a heter I can direct you to Rabbis who will tell you it's OK. I have heard from reliable sources not to eat there
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 26, 2014, 11:27:02 AM
Not sure what you are looking for. If you are looking for a heter I can direct you to Rabbis who will tell you it's OK. I have heard from reliable sources not to eat there
No, I'm not looking for a heter. I'm asking my LOR, but I just wanted to know why some people won't eat there. Is it like the KVH of Boston or R' Bukspan of LA that some people won't eat at?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: nacho2100 on April 01, 2014, 10:53:16 AM
Friends took the train from Florence to Sierra and then a cab to get here but supposedly this kosher wine tour was fantastic. Plus they also have kosher accommodations.

www.terradiseta.it/eng/winetours.html
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 11, 2014, 08:50:27 AM
Instead of people asking the same questions over and over, wouldn't it be great if the wiki said it all? The hope is that the educated will fill it in and it'll get updated as needed.
I'm going in a few days so I hope to fill it in.
Still plan to fill in that wiki?
btw, the kosher supermarket closed down. was just there last month and all that is left is ruth's. will post TR in near future.
Want to post that TR?
Title: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 12, 2014, 12:13:27 PM
Btw the winery is called Tierra di seta.  Their email is info@terradiseta.it.
I'm gonna be a spokesmen for them because of how nice they were to me in giving me info and helping me plan my trip to Siena. 
Without exaggeration they are extremely nice and helpful. They do tours twice a day. One at 11am and one at 5pm i think. You have to make reservations. It's a 25eu cab ride from Siena and I'll hopefully post how I did it by bus (with a walk on top of that :)) they have beautiful houses on the property that require a weeks reservation. Pricey but looks gorgeous.
The tour is 20eu per person with discounts for groups. It includes a tour of the winery and tastings of their homemade wine, homemade olive oil, artisan crackers, and (maybe homemade) cheese. They told me to plan for a 1.5-2.5 hour total time.
Based on their website and articles about them, their wine is extremely highly rated even in nonjewish competitions and are just starting to import to America. I can't say anything about their kashrus. All I know is they were very nice in explaining that they were closed for Shabbos (I guess they thought I wasn't frum). From what I understand about the family is that they are Italian born frum Jews...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 12, 2014, 12:18:44 PM
If anyone is curious about Siena, I'll describe it a little.
Siena is a walled city on a hulled overlooking a gorgeous Tuscany. The city is full of authentic Italian and it felt to me that the tourists kind of blend into the shadows so it still feels very authentic.
there is a beautiful shul with lots of history with a caretaker who does tours but make sure to contact him in advance (not sure how but you should be able to find it online).
I hear that the coolest thing is the horse race around the main square in the center of town. It's only twice a year (july 2 and the other day I think is in august).
Don't know that much more about attractions as I only spent like 3 hours there but I think it's a beautiful city to really feel the Italian old world culture.

Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 12, 2014, 12:19:51 PM
If anyone else has information on the other cities that surround Florence, please write about it as I'm looking for places to visit this summer :)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 12, 2014, 12:27:45 PM
Not sure what you are looking for. If you are looking for a heter I can direct you to Rabbis who will tell you it's OK. I have heard from reliable sources not to eat there
+1 but they have wine you can drink :)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 10:41:35 PM
Bottom line - bring food from Rome with me here?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 13, 2014, 10:47:25 PM
Bottom line - bring food from Rome with me here?
My LOR didn't get back to me yet, but that seems to be the plan. I can post his opinion on Ruth's  when he tells me. He knows a reliable Rav from the area who he's asking for me.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 11:02:28 PM
My LOR didn't get back to me yet, but that seems to be the plan. I can post his opinion on Ruth's  when he tells me. He knows a reliable Rav from the area who he's asking for me.
Yeah, I feel like that's the problem with all these random European cities. My LOR has to know someone there, etc. probably hard to get a good answer. Similar to the Pantheon/Vatican City/Toledo Synagogue questions ppl raised. Unless my LOR is familiar with the goings on of the church, he's going to have to do some digging/calling to find out what the story is. But I guess I might as well ask so the ball starts rolling.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 13, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
Yeah, I feel like that's the problem with all these random European cities. My LOR has to know someone there, etc. probably hard to get a good answer. Similar to the Pantheon/Vatican City/Toledo Synagogue questions ppl raised. Unless my LOR is familiar with the goings on of the church, he's going to have to do some digging/calling to find out what the story is. But I guess I might as well ask so the ball starts rolling.
Have you heard of kosherquest.org? R Eidlitz is an impartial kashrus person. Maybe he'd know. Maybe your LOR can vouch for him?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 13, 2014, 11:09:22 PM
Have you heard of kosherquest.org? R Eidlitz is an impartial kashrus person. Maybe he'd know. Maybe your LOR can vouch for him?
Never heard of him, but it can't hurt to find out.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 04:42:28 PM
Any thoughts on the Jewish Florence Tour? I'm able to join a mini-group for 50euro pp as a student rate. Normally, it's much more, but depending on how many ppl join the group. I would estimate that it's normally ~100eur pp.
Is that the "city tour" you're referring to Ergel?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 18, 2014, 04:56:16 PM
Didn't do a Jewish tour. Just a regular city walking tour
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 05:37:11 PM
Didn't do a Jewish tour. Just a regular city walking tour
Ah, any links? Remember who it was with?

Although reviews of the Jewish tour are great for the most part, some made it seem like there's really no Jewish info besides for the Shul, which can be gained just by walking around the Shul and/or getting a Shul tour. If that's the case, then I wouldn't pay 50euro for the Jewish tour.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
Ah, any links? Remember who it was with?

Although reviews of the Jewish tour are great for the most part, some made it seem like there's really no Jewish info besides for the Shul, which can be gained just by walking around the Shul and/or getting a Shul tour. If that's the case, then I wouldn't pay 50euro for the Jewish tour.
The people I just spoke to over Shabbos said it's not worth it to do the Jewish tour. I saw two free walking tours with Florence Free Tours (http://www.florencefreetour.com/), but the reviews (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g187895-d1954935-Reviews-Florence_Free_Tour-Florence_Tuscany.html) aren't that great.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 07:39:13 PM
The people I just spoke to over Shabbos said it's not worth it to do the Jewish tour. I saw two free walking tours with Florence Free Tours (http://www.florencefreetour.com/), but the reviews (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g187895-d1954935-Reviews-Florence_Free_Tour-Florence_Tuscany.html) aren't that great.
Was waiting for you to chime in :)
Seems like those bad reviews are from May. Earlier reviews seem positive. Could be something has gone sour with them recently.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 07:42:26 PM
Was waiting for you to chime in :)
Seems like those bad reviews are from May. Earlier reviews seem positive. Could be something has gone sour with them recently.
I know. Since it's free and you don't need to book, I'll just keep an eye on them for now. I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the history in Florence is in the Ufizi and the Acadamy museums. I'm sure there are benefits to walking tours, but Florence was known for Renaissance art, not may famous buildings. Did you see any better looking ones?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 08:00:25 PM
I know. Since it's free and you don't need to book, I'll just keep an eye on them for now. I'm getting the feeling that a lot of the history in Florence is in the Ufizi and the Acadamy museums. I'm sure there are benefits to walking tours, but Florence was known for Renaissance art, not may famous buildings. Did you see any better looking ones?
No, although I haven't searched much. I emailed the Shul to find out about getting a tour (it said tours require reservation) but otherwise, like you said, I think we'll just walk around and check out the 2 museums. Not so into art, so might end the day early to get to tower of Pisa. Sleeping there overnight so if I can do the tower that afternoon, I can leave for Venice first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 08:04:00 PM
No, although I haven't searched much. I emailed the Shul to find out about getting a tour (it said tours require reservation) but otherwise, like you said, I think we'll just walk around and check out the 2 museums. Not so into art, so might end the day early to get to tower of Pisa. Sleeping there overnight so if I can do the tower that afternoon, I can leave for Venice first thing in the morning.
I heard it's pretty tough to do both museums in one day, so we'll probably just go to Ufizi. I'm not an art person, but I've heard you get a little more into it once you've seen the stuff there. The only thing I really want to see at the Academy is David (the statue), but I don't think that justifies the cost of admission.

We're planning on visiting Pisa on the way to Florence. I heard the lines to get into the leaning tower can be absolutely ridiculous, but if you show up around 8 PM here a lot more manageable. Also, it might not even be worth it to climb the tower because the view from there aren't that great anyways. I think we are just going to take pictures and continue on to Florence from there.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 08:09:50 PM
I heard it's pretty tough to do both museums in one day, so we'll probably just go to Ufizi. I'm not an art person, but I've heard you get a little more into it once you've seen the stuff there. The only thing I really want to see at the Academy is David (the statue), but I don't think that justifies the cost of admission.

We're planning on visiting Pisa on the way to Florence. I heard the lines to get into the leaning tower can be absolutely ridiculous, but if you show up around 8 PM here a lot more manageable. Also, it might not even be worth it to climb the tower because the view from there aren't that great anyways. I think we are just going to take pictures and continue on to Florence from there.
I agree with your plan completely. You see how much Academy costs?
Only sleeping in Pisa bc there's a 10K Marriott there. From my research, you don't find hotels for much less than that (other than 7K SPGs).
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 18, 2014, 08:12:07 PM
Go see the David. You won't regret it. We did that instead of uffizi
Buy tickets in advance from a booth elsewhere in the city
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on May 18, 2014, 08:13:52 PM
I heard it's pretty tough to do both museums in one day, so we'll probably just go to Ufizi. I'm not an art person, but I've heard you get a little more into it once you've seen the stuff there. The only thing I really want to see at the Academy is David (the statue), but I don't think that justifies the cost of admission.

We're planning on visiting Pisa on the way to Florence. I heard the lines to get into the leaning tower can be absolutely ridiculous, but if you show up around 8 PM here a lot more manageable. Also, it might not even be worth it to climb the tower because the view from there aren't that great anyways. I think we are just going to take pictures and continue on to Florence from there.
you can buy tickets to tower online in advance
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
I agree with your plan completely. You see how much Academy costs?
Only sleeping in Pisa bc there's a 10K Marriott there. From my research, you don't find hotels for much less than that (other than 7K SPGs).
True. We're staying at a hotel in Florence on the other side of the river.  Reasons: free parking and #1 rated hotel on trip advisor.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 08:16:40 PM
Go see the David. You won't regret it. We did that instead of uffizi
Buy tickets in advance from a booth elsewhere in the city


you can buy tickets to tower online in advance
Have either of you seen Ufizi?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 18, 2014, 08:23:27 PM
Have either of you seen Ufizi?
No. My mashal, lehavdil elef alphei havdalos, would be as follows. You can either see a ksav yad of the rambam or of the rivash, tashbetz and terumas hadeshen. While the three are all greater than we can ever imagine, I'd choose to see the rambam
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 08:24:35 PM
No. My mashal, lehavdil elef alphei havdalos, would be as follows. You can either see a ksav yad of the rambam or of the rivash, tashbetz and terumas hadeshen. While the three are all greater than we can ever imagine, I'd choose to see the rambam
Nice mashal. I'll have to think more about it.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 18, 2014, 08:27:07 PM
Nice mashal. I'll have to think more about it.
On that note, make sure not miss the ksav yad of the sefer haikarim in the great synagogue in Rome. Pretty cool
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 08:28:19 PM
On that note, make sure not miss the ksav yad of the sefer haikarim in the great synagogue in Rome. Pretty cool
I hope it's covered on the Ghetto tour.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 18, 2014, 08:30:44 PM
I hope it's covered on the Ghetto tour.
If you do RFJ, sure. Otherwise I'm not so sure it will be
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 08:34:12 PM
If you do RFJ, sure. Otherwise I'm not so sure it will be
We're doing Jewish Roma because of the student rate. I'll ask.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 18, 2014, 08:38:03 PM
We're doing Jewish Roma because of the student rate. I'll ask.
Just ask her to point it out to you when you're in the museum
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 09:26:09 PM
True. We're staying at a hotel in Florence on the other side of the river.  Reasons: free parking and #1 rated hotel on trip advisor.
Points not accepted, though :)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 09:26:53 PM
Points not accepted, though :)
Correct.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 09:34:03 PM
So, seems like visit the Shul/musuem (first see if you can get a tour and not just walk through it by yourself - ps there's a student discount of like 1 eur pp). Go to Academie to see David. Walk around town, see Ponte Vecchio bridge and head to Pisa to see the tower.
Would be nice to find out about Ruth's Kitchen (I emailed Florence Chabad), otherwise looks like we'll be bringing food from Rome.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
So, seems like visit the Shul/musuem (first see if you can get a tour and not just walk through it by yourself - ps there's a student discount of like 1 eur pp). Go to Academie to see David. Walk around town, see Ponte Vecchio bridge and head to Pisa to see the tower.
Would be nice to find out about Ruth's Kitchen (I emailed Florence Chabad), otherwise looks like we'll be bringing food from Rome.
I already heard back from the Chabad Rabbi. He said to call him. My guess is he doesn't want anything in writing which is not normally a good sign.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 18, 2014, 09:54:05 PM
I already heard back from the Chabad Rabbi. He said to call him. My guess is he doesn't want anything in writing which is not normally a good sign.
Oh. lol.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 19, 2014, 04:24:43 PM
So, seems like visit the Shul/musuem (first see if you can get a tour and not just walk through it by yourself - ps there's a student discount of like 1 eur pp). Go to Academie to see David. Walk around town, see Ponte Vecchio bridge and head to Pisa to see the tower.
Would be nice to find out about Ruth's Kitchen (I emailed Florence Chabad), otherwise looks like we'll be bringing food from Rome.
Based on your itinerary, it should cost 36 EUR for the day for 2 people (6.50 for the Uffizi and Acadamy, 5 for the shul/pp). Not bad for a full day, although that assumes you walk everywhere and not incurring bus/cab costs.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 19, 2014, 07:54:51 PM
Based on your itinerary, it should cost 36 EUR for the day for 2 people (6.50 for the Uffizi and Acadamy, 5 for the shul/pp). Not bad for a full day, although that assumes you walk everywhere and not incurring bus/cab costs.
No reason to take any form of public transport in Florence
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 19, 2014, 07:56:47 PM
No reason to take any form of public transport in Florence
I didn't plan on it. Did you take a tour or just go to the museums/shul yourself?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 19, 2014, 08:02:26 PM
I didn't plan on it. Did you take a tour or just go to the museums/shul yourself?
The latter. Museum is not so exciting. Problem is museum and shul rotate every hour (or half hour, don't remember) being open
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 19, 2014, 08:14:14 PM
The latter. Museum is not so exciting. Problem is museum and shul rotate every hour (or half hour, don't remember) being open
Did you enjoy the Uffizi or the Academy?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 19, 2014, 08:43:58 PM
Did you enjoy the Uffizi or the Academy?


Go see the David. You won't regret it. We did that instead of uffizi
Buy tickets in advance from a booth elsewhere in the city


No. My mashal, lehavdil elef alphei havdalos, would be as follows. You can either see a ksav yad of the rambam or of the rivash, tashbetz and terumas hadeshen. While the three are all greater than we can ever imagine, I'd choose to see the rambam
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 19, 2014, 08:54:23 PM

Now I feel dumb. ;-)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 20, 2014, 08:47:30 AM
The Synagogue got back to me. Their tour is 100 eur,  not sure if that's per person or for the group of me and my wife. Either way, that's crazy expensive and I would sooner pay 50eur pp to the Florence Jewish tour and see more than just the Shul.
Ergel, you just paid the admission fee and walked around the Shul/Museum on your own?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 20, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
The Synagogue got back to me. Their tour is 100 eur,  not sure if that's per person or for the group of me and my wife. Either way, that's crazy expensive and I would sooner pay 50eur pp to the Florence Jewish tour and see more than just the Shul.
Ergel, you just paid the admission fee and walked around the Shul/Museum on your own?
yeah
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 20, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
yeah
K thanks, I think I'll just do that.

Anyone here ever take Giovanna with Florence Jewish Tours? All I have is TA reviews, would like some DDF feedback...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on May 20, 2014, 12:39:39 PM
Have either of you seen Ufizi?
yes

i also went to the science museum and saw galileo's telescope and finger (yes, finger)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2014, 12:47:07 PM
yes

i also went to the science museum and saw galileo's telescope and finger (yes, finger)
How long were you in Florence? It doesn't seem like enough time to see the Uffizi, Acadamy, Shul (and/or museum), the Ponte Vecchio, walk around town, and the science museum all in one day.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 20, 2014, 12:55:23 PM
How long were you in Florence? It doesn't seem like enough time to see the Uffizi, Acadamy, Shul (and/or museum), the Ponte Vecchio, walk around town, and the science museum all in one day.
Depends on the day and museum lines. And how much time in each place. It is possible for sure though.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2014, 01:03:50 PM
How long were you in Florence? It doesn't seem like enough time to see the Uffizi, Acadamy, Shul (and/or museum), the Ponte Vecchio, walk around town, and the science museum all in one day.
Depends on the day and museum lines. And how much time in each place. It is possible for sure though.
How would you rank the above activities from best (can't miss) to worst (it's ok to miss if our of time)?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on May 20, 2014, 01:08:09 PM
How long were you in Florence? It doesn't seem like enough time to see the Uffizi, Acadamy, Shul (and/or museum), the Ponte Vecchio, walk around town, and the science museum all in one day.
definitely more than one day
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2014, 01:08:54 PM
definitely more than one day
How would you rank them?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 20, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
definitely more than one day

When I was there it was education week so all museums were free admission to all museums. Best part was for 5euro we skipped all the lines of people waiting for free so I covered everything I wanted to in basically one day.

@ Yehoshua

1.Walk around town/Ponte Vecchio/leather market (All part of a walk)
2. Uffizi
3. Shul (and/or museum)
4. Acadamy
5. Never did science so can't say.


All depends what you want to see.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2014, 01:26:33 PM
When I was there it was education week so all museums were free admission to all museums. Best part was for 5euro we skipped all the lines of people waiting for free so I covered everything I wanted to in basically one day.

@ Yehoshua

1.Walk around town/Ponte Vecchio/leather market (All part of a walk)
2. Uffizi
3. Shul (and/or museum)
4. Acadamy
5. Never did science so can't say.


All depends what you want to see.
That was almost my exact route, with shul and Academy switched. Thanks!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: myb821 on May 20, 2014, 01:32:14 PM
We did uffizi academia and the shul/museum all in one day as well. It was a little pricey but I do believe it was worth going to both museums. What is also cool in academia is they have some unfinished Michelangelo sculptures which kind of lets you see how they were crafted which is kind of amazing.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2014, 01:36:25 PM
We did uffizi academia and the shul/museum all in one day as well. It was a little pricey but I do believe it was worth going to both museums. What is also cool in academia is they have some unfinished Michelangelo sculptures which kind of lets you see how they were crafted which is kind of amazing.
At 18 EUR/pp? That doesn't seem too expensive to me.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: myb821 on May 20, 2014, 01:42:21 PM
At 18 EUR/pp? That doesn't seem too expensive to me.
i think we paid for reservations which was another 5-10 euros pp
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on May 20, 2014, 01:43:02 PM
How would you rank them?
1.Shul (and/or museum)
2. Acadamy
3. Walk around town/Ponte Vecchio did the rick steves audio walk
4. Uffizi
5. science
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2014, 02:00:48 PM
i think we paid for reservations which was another 5-10 euros pp
Is it necessary? Are there long lines?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
1.Shul (and/or museum)
2. Acadamy
3. Walk around town/Ponte Vecchio did the rick steves audio walk
4. Uffizi
5. science
Hmm, almost the opposite of of jj1000. The shul/museum was that good?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 20, 2014, 02:45:48 PM
The shul is unbelievable. Museum not so much. Really a must see
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 21, 2014, 02:45:11 PM
I just heard back from Giovanna from the Jewish Florence tours. She offered to do a tour (3 hours) for 35 EUR/pp. We are not going to take this tour though, due to budgetary concerns, but I thought I'd let everyone know if you're interested.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 21, 2014, 03:50:45 PM
I just heard back from Giovanna from the Jewish Florence tours. She offered to do a tour (3 hours) for 35 EUR/pp. We are not going to take this tour though, due to budgetary concerns, but I thought I'd let everyone know if you're interested.
Hmmm she quoted me 50 eur as a student discount, but otherwise wanted like 65eur. Maybe on your day there's a big group going anyway so she lowered her price?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 21, 2014, 03:55:46 PM
Hmmm she quoted me 50 eur as a student discount, but otherwise wanted like 65eur. Maybe on your day there's a big group going anyway so she lowered her price?
No, actually, she said it's normally 50 but she can go as low as 35. She also specifically said there was no group on the day I'm there, but she could arrange a mini group for us.  It sounded like she really wants business.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 21, 2014, 04:06:29 PM
No, actually, she said it's normally 50 but she can go as low as 35. She also specifically said there was no group on the day I'm there, but she could arrange a mini group for us.  It sounded like she really wants business.
Wow lol that's very different from what she told me.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 21, 2014, 04:08:21 PM
Wow lol that's very different from what she told me.
I don't know why, but if you're interested I can contact her for you.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 21, 2014, 05:21:32 PM
I don't know why, but if you're interested I can contact her for you.
I think I'll just go with touring the Shul and Academie myself. (Will probably skip Uffizi.)
Thanks though
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 21, 2014, 05:44:48 PM
I think I'll just go with touring the Shul and Academie myself. (Will probably skip Uffizi.)
Thanks though
Same here. Are you planning on going to Siena at all?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 21, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
Same here. Are you planning on going to Siena at all?
Nope. No interest really and not into wine.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 23, 2014, 08:03:19 AM
Any ideas what to do in Florence on Monday?  Most museums are closed.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 25, 2014, 05:31:50 AM

The shul is unbelievable. Museum not so much. Really a must see

I thought the museum was very cool but I did with a tour. There are millions upon millions of dollars of Klei kodesh. I think they have like 300 sifrei Torah. 800 crowns, and 1000 paroches. They only show a handful at a time but it's still fascinating to see how much the previous generations put into the shul.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 25, 2014, 08:25:24 AM
Does anyone have the email address of the tour guide?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 25, 2014, 09:36:40 AM
Does anyone have the email address of the tour guide?
Giovanna - jewishflorence@gmail.com

What day are you there? She said she would lower her price if there are others requesting the same day.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 25, 2014, 09:42:12 AM
Monday
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 25, 2014, 09:47:06 AM
Monday
Tomorrow?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 25, 2014, 09:47:52 AM
No July
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 25, 2014, 09:50:04 AM
No July
Ah, now we're getting closer. There are only 4 Mondays in July. Well, nonetheless, I won't be there on a Monday, so it won't work out anyway. Too bad.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 25, 2014, 09:53:43 AM
Thanx!  I will email her.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 27, 2014, 07:00:04 AM
We are going from Venice to Florence for a day.  Is it worth it to stop off in Pisa?  We are taking a train.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 27, 2014, 08:25:06 AM
We are going from Venice to Florence for a day.  Is it worth it to stop off in Pisa?  We are taking a train.
Will you look back one day and say I was an hour away from the leaning tower and didn't go see it?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2014, 11:17:28 AM
Will you look back one day and say I was an hour away from the leaning tower and didn't go see it?
I was and I don't regret it
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 27, 2014, 06:06:01 PM

Will you look back one day and say I was an hour away from the leaning tower and didn't go see it?

I heard from a tour guide that Pisa is basically only the tower with a flood of tourists taking pictures (the Chinese let the tower fall on them in the picture and the Germans push it down:))
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 27, 2014, 06:18:14 PM
I heard from a tour guide that Pisa is basically only the tower with a flood of tourists taking pictures (the Chinese let the tower fall on them in the picture and the Germans push it down:))
And I plan to take a picture trying to push it back up ;)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 27, 2014, 06:22:11 PM
I heard from a tour guide that Pisa is basically only the tower with a flood of tourists taking pictures (the Chinese let the tower fall on them in the picture and the Germans push it down:))
That's funny. What do the Chinese do, cower on the ground in fear under the tower?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 27, 2014, 06:29:58 PM
Is it only an hour out of the way from venice to Florence? Also, do they light it up nice at night?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 27, 2014, 06:37:19 PM
Is it only an hour out of the way from venice to Florence? Also, do they light it up nice at night?
2 hr 45 min FLR-VCE
4 hr 15 min FLR-PSA-VCE
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: SOS on May 27, 2014, 06:47:38 PM
2 hr 45 min FLR-VCE
4 hr 15 min FLR-PSA-VCE
That is by car, by train you have to go back to flr from Pisa before you head to venice
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 27, 2014, 06:50:43 PM
That is by car, by train you have to go back to flr from Pisa before you head to venice
From west to east: PSA-FLR-VCE. It's more direct to go (via train or car) from PSA-FLR-VCE than to backtrack and go FLR-PRA-VCE (driving right by FLR).
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 27, 2014, 09:44:22 PM
That is by car, by train you have to go back to flr from Pisa before you head to venice
Correct, my mistake. Forgot he was talking about trains.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 27, 2014, 11:56:24 PM
I will be leaving from Venice and heading towards Florence
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 07:46:15 AM
I will be leaving from Venice and heading towards Florence
Probably still would have to go VCE-FLR-PSA-FLR-FCO.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on May 28, 2014, 08:17:04 AM
So I will be killing a lot of time.  How far is the the tower from the train stop?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 09:19:34 AM
So I will be killing a lot of time.  How far is the the tower from the train stop?
Google Maps is your friend.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 09:53:49 AM
Btw I just heard back from the Shul - they have guided presentations every hour that you can join. I think that may be what I do instead of the Jewish Florence Walking Tour. I don't think Florence has a very deep Jewish history and therefore, I would imagine you can get plenty out of the Shul/museum, without paying for the private tour.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2014, 10:23:53 AM
Btw I just heard back from the Shul - they have guided presentations every hour that you can join. I think that may be what I do instead of the Jewish Florence Walking Tour. I don't think Florence has a very deep Jewish history and therefore, I would imagine you can get plenty out of the Shul/museum, without paying for the private tour.
That's my plan exactly.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 11:00:43 AM
That's my plan exactly.
The thing is - I'm talking to someone who took the private Jewish tour in Barcelona and he said that yes, there's only 1 shul/museum that you can go into anyway, but a lot of great info is covered on the walk around the old community. I'm sure that's how it is in Florence too and Seville and EVERYWHERE! In fact, I don't know why we were to quick to jump on RFJ/JR for Rome - it's also just 2 shuls and a museum that you can buy tickets for yourself and then a walk around the Jewish community. This whole tour or no-tour decision is driving me maddd lol.

I guess, like I said in my thread, going to every tour will be expensive. Pick the ones that are in cities that are known for their Jewish history - Rome, Barcelona, etc. and just visit the shuls/museums yourself in places that are not as well known, like Florence, Toledo, Seville, etc.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2014, 11:15:26 AM
The thing is - I'm talking to someone who took the private Jewish tour in Barcelona and he said that yes, there's only 1 shul/museum that you can go into anyway, but a lot of great info is covered on the walk around the old community. I'm sure that's how it is in Florence too and Seville and EVERYWHERE! In fact, I don't know why we were to quick to jump on RFJ/JR for Rome - it's also just 2 shuls and a museum that you can buy tickets for yourself and then a walk around the Jewish community. This whole tour or no-tour decision is driving me maddd lol.

I guess, like I said in my thread, going to every tour will be expensive. Pick the ones that are in cities that are known for their Jewish history - Rome, Barcelona, etc. and just visit the shuls/museums yourself in places that are not as well known, like Florence, Toledo, Seville, etc.
I actually just spoke to someone who did the Jewish tours in both Rome and Florence. While she highly recommended RFJ, she did not recommend the Jewish tour in Florence. She said it was very easy to do in your own. The tour focuses on where Jews used to live on Florence so you don't actually see anything.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 11:42:35 AM
I actually just spoke to someone who did the Jewish tours in both Rome and Florence. While she highly recommended RFJ, she did not recommend the Jewish tour in Florence. She said it was very easy to do in your own. The tour focuses on where Jews used to live on Florence so you don't actually see anything.
Ah, that's good. I think that plays off my idea. Some cities had Jews living in them and that's it, some have major stuff to see.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: SOS on May 28, 2014, 12:43:33 PM
Pick the ones that are in cities that are known for their Jewish history - Rome, Barcelona, etc. and just visit the shuls/museums yourself in places that are not as well known, like Florence, Toledo, Seville, etc.

Playing devils advocate, don't you think you can read up enough information on the famous cities beforehand, that you don't really need a tour, its the small places that are hard to research that you want a tour

Or are you saying that there is nothing in these small towns worth taking a tour?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2014, 12:48:42 PM
Playing devils advocate, don't you think you can read up enough information on the famous cities beforehand, that you don't really need a tour, its the small places that are hard to research that you want a tour

Or are you saying that there is nothing in these small towns worth taking a tour?
I'd say that if you were a European history major and/or Jewish history major you'd probably be wasting your time on tours in any city. While regular non-history buffs can do lots of research into a particular city, it takes a lot of time and effort. Most people would rather spend a few extra bucks to be given a live history lesson than do research online beforehand. Also tours let you skip long lines and often take you to places you cannot go on your own.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 28, 2014, 01:45:46 PM
I'd say that if you were a European history major and/or Jewish history major you'd probably be wasting your time on tours in any city. While regular non-history buffs can do lots of research into a particular city, it takes a lot of time and effort. Most people would rather spend a few extra bucks to be given a live history lesson than do research online beforehand. Also tours let you skip long lines and often take you to places you cannot go on your own.
+1
Playing devils advocate, don't you think you can read up enough information on the famous cities beforehand, that you don't really need a tour, its the small places that are hard to research that you want a tour

Or are you saying that there is nothing in these small towns worth taking a tour?
That. How much more does a tour of Florence's city provide than just visiting the shul/museum on your own? From reviews I read and what Yehoshua found out, FLR doesn't have much remaining besides the shuls. I'm not so interested in hearing a guide tell me about the history of the place without being able to show too many physical artifacts/buildings.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on May 28, 2014, 02:40:55 PM

+1That. How much more does a tour of Florence's city provide than just visiting the shul/museum on your own? From reviews I read and what Yehoshua found out, FLR doesn't have much remaining besides the shuls. I'm not so interested in hearing a guide tell me about the history of the place without being able to show too many physical artifacts/buildings.

I went with a tour group through Italy last summer. There are many levels that you can get in terms of seeing and appreciating the history.
The simplest level is going to the museum yourself. The museum tour will even add to that significantly. My tour guide had done the research and was able to give an even higher level than that.
I personally found out the most from picking up a book and reading it. I went to venice last year and heard from the guide the history. It doesn't touch the actual amount of history there. I found this book lying around my house written by an Italian and then translated. The level of detail is just tremendous. You really get a sense about the history in an intimate way (and when I go this summer back to venice, I think I'll appreciate the city that much more).

Regardless, I think it comes down to how much you like history. If you really care, so you'll find out more and be willing to pay more. If you don't, then why bother. It's te same with the art museums, if you like art you'll be fascinated with a tour.  There's even a chance you'll feel that the tour didn't add enough. If you don't, then you'll feel the tour didn't add much.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 30, 2014, 04:46:19 PM
Up to Florence!

Only going to use Jewish Florence Tours if they get back to me that others joined and they can offer it for much less than the 50€ pp they currently want. Otherwise, I plan on just going to the Shul myself. There is a short presentation when you enter and it's given every half hour alternating in Italian and English. I emailed them asking if English is on the hour or the 1/2 hour. Will post when they respond.

After that, I plan on lunch which I'll need to bring from Rome and then going to see David. I decided against Uffizi because I don't think it will interest us that much. Tip for David - TA reviews say the line is pretty long and to book in advance. However, Accademia's site charges a 4.5€ fee for booking online, total of 21.5€ pp. But, once again, on Musement one of the last-listed tours in Florence is Accademia (http://www.musement.com/en/florence/the-accademia-gallery_tickets) :) On sale now for 20€ minus the 10€ POINTSGUY discount. :D It says the ticket is only valid for the time you choose, so make sure to plan your schedule before picking a time.

After that, I'm just thinking of walking around to Ponte Vecchio for a while and then continue on to Pisa.
Leaning Tower is 18€ on the direct site and surprisingly has no booking fee, but tickets can only be booked 20 days in advance. Once again, our friends at Musement have a ticket option for the Tower (http://www.musement.com/en/pisa/the-leaning-tower-of-pisa_tickets) at the bottom of the Pisa tours list. 21€ which goes down to 11€ with the 10€ discount. :) Seems like tickets are only valid for the time chosen, so plan your schedule before you buy.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 30, 2014, 05:30:36 PM
Leaning Tower is 18€ on the direct site and surprisingly has no booking fee, but tickets can only be booked 20 days in advance. Once again, our friends at Musement have a ticket option for the Tower (http://www.musement.com/en/pisa/the-leaning-tower-of-pisa_tickets) at the bottom of the Pisa tours list. 21€ which goes down to 11€ with the 10€ discount. :) Seems like tickets are only valid for the time chosen, so plan your schedule before you buy.
I heard the view from the top of the tower are just ok. I'm planning on just taking the pictures in front of the tower and not going up.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 30, 2014, 05:34:58 PM
I heard the view from the top of the tower are just ok. I'm planning on just taking the pictures in front of the tower and not going up.
Interesting. Didn't really think about it. Truth is I was actually surprised you could go up when I got to the site. Would save like $30 although I feel like my wife would be like let's go up!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 03, 2014, 12:31:10 PM
After that, I plan on lunch which I'll need to bring from Rome and then going to see David. I decided against Uffizi because I don't think it will interest us that much. Tip for David - TA reviews say the line is pretty long and to book in advance. However, Accademia's site charges a 4.5€ fee for booking online, total of 21.5€ pp. But, once again, on Musement one of the last-listed tours in Florence is Accademia (http://www.musement.com/en/florence/the-accademia-gallery_tickets) :) On sale now for 20€ minus the 10€ POINTSGUY discount. :D It says the ticket is only valid for the time you choose, so make sure to plan your schedule before picking a time.
Did you book these tickets? I was thinking of booking for 3:00pm (seeing the shul in the morning, then lunch). Do you think they'll let you in if you come a little bit early or late? Musement says you can only get in at the time on the tickets, but how makpid are they?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 03, 2014, 01:13:35 PM
Did you book these tickets? I was thinking of booking for 3:00pm (seeing the shul in the morning, then lunch). Do you think they'll let you in if you come a little bit early or late? Musement says you can only get in at the time on the tickets, but how makpid are they?
So I actually just spoke with my wife about this (who actually learned about David in Art History class) and we decided that we don't think it's worth going to see. Neither of us are particularly into art that much and neither of us would be wowed by seeing it. It's $15 a person and I think we would appreciate more just walking around Florence more and saving the $30 as we're spending plenty on other attractions whether it's $100 to see Old Rome or $200 to see Mt. Pilatus. That's just our thoughts, and I think we're going to turn down on this idea.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 03, 2014, 01:27:24 PM
So I actually just spoke with my wife about this (who actually learned about David in Art History class) and we decided that we don't think it's worth going to see. Neither of us are particularly into art that much and neither of us would be wowed by seeing it. It's $15 a person and I think we would appreciate more just walking around Florence more and saving the $30 as we're spending plenty on other attractions whether it's $100 to see Old Rome or $200 to see Mt. Pilatus. That's just our thoughts, and I think we're going to turn down on this idea.
I hear you. I know, the Rome tours and Mt Pilatus trips are expensive. Neither of us are art people, but we might go to see it anyway. Still thinking about it.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: dbel23 on June 06, 2014, 12:10:32 AM
I just read through this whole thread and got some great input, but since I'm going with a serious time constraint, I was hoping to get some help. We will be arriving to florence on a wednesday morning from Venice at around 11:30am with a train to rome at like 515pm.

We definitely want to check out the leather market and do the Rick Steves walking tour, but since we are only there for about 6 hours, we're still trying to figure out how to best spend the time.

My question is this: what is the minimum amount of time that would have to be spent at these places for them to be worth visiting?

1) Synagogue / Museum
2) Uffizi
3) Accademia
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on June 06, 2014, 12:11:42 AM
1) 5 minutes, but it is a 20+ minute walk from town
2) 5 minutes
3) can't answer
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on June 06, 2014, 12:14:38 AM

1) 5 minutes, but it is a 20+ minute walk from town
2) 5 minutes
3) can't answer

I think each place deserves a lot longer than that...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on June 06, 2014, 12:15:54 AM
I think each place deserves a lot longer than that...
that wasn't the question
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: dbel23 on June 06, 2014, 12:30:06 AM
thanks for the input.

obviously if i had more time, i would stay there longer. i almost regret organizing it that way, but since we're staying in rome and taking advantage of the spg 4 nights get 5th free award, we didn't want to pay an extra hotel night in Florence.

We'll try to make the most of it.... I really wanted to go to that wine tour that was posted. looks amazing

Anyone else have any thoughts on accademia? If 5 minutes are worth it at the Uffizi, I can't imagine having to spend much more time at accademia after seeing David. Only issue is that the link posted above (http://www.musement.com/en/florence/the-accademia-gallery_tickets) won't let me book it for next week....
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on June 06, 2014, 12:34:19 AM
sorry, I mixed up 2 and 3
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Srsy on June 22, 2014, 02:05:38 AM
Anyone ever went to the Gucci or Ferragamo museum?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Allune on June 22, 2014, 10:12:32 AM
Anyone ever went to the Gucci or Ferragamo museum?
I went to Ferragamo museum. Its inside the store. Cool to see for the wife. To me, it's shoes. Unfortunately she suckered me into buying her a pair :/
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Allune on June 22, 2014, 10:14:09 AM
thanks for the input.

obviously if i had more time, i would stay there longer. i almost regret organizing it that way, but since we're staying in rome and taking advantage of the spg 4 nights get 5th free award, we didn't want to pay an extra hotel night in Florence.

We'll try to make the most of it.... I really wanted to go to that wine tour that was posted. looks amazing

Anyone else have any thoughts on accademia? If 5 minutes are worth it at the Uffizi, I can't imagine having to spend much more time at accademia after seeing David. Only issue is that the link posted above (http://www.musement.com/en/florence/the-accademia-gallery_tickets) won't let me book it for next week....

Buy the pass. It makes a huge difference.
You'll be there for 10 minutes max.
Uffizi is huge. Either skip it or take an hour.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AvivaB on July 07, 2014, 11:43:47 AM
FYI, the kosher market in Florence has closed. The only kosher food available was found at Ruth's.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yg99 on July 27, 2014, 11:37:38 AM
I already heard back from the Chabad Rabbi. He said to call him. My guess is he doesn't want anything in writing which is not normally a good sign.

So, what did he tell you when you spoke to him?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 27, 2014, 11:43:29 AM
So, what did he tell you when you spoke to him?
I ended up not calling the Chabad in Florence to ask about Ruth's although I could have just walked in and asked them when I was there, as it does you doors down. We heard from other sources that Ruth's was not reliable and to just bring food from elsewhere which  is exactly what we did.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yg99 on July 27, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Anyone stay at the Hilton? I know it's far, but is it decent?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yg99 on August 02, 2014, 11:14:22 PM
Anyone know of any Kivrei Tzadikim in the Florence area?

Has anyone been to the old Jewish cemetery?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 13, 2015, 03:08:21 PM
Anyone here been to florence with a kid (we're going with our three year old)?
Would those who've been to the museums think that a (relatively calm but sometimes speaks loudly) child would seem out of place?

ETA: The kosher winery tour in Sienna mentioned above is certified by the OK (it says the honey is too, but they don't mention the olive oil). http://www.terradiseta.it/eng/aboutus.html
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 14, 2015, 07:40:45 AM
Also, anyone taken a driving/biking tour of Florence, and is this groupon (14.90 euro p/p, kids free) for a golf card tour with audio guide a good idea?
http://www.groupon.it/deals/firenze-special/accord-solution-2/54185895?p=1&nlp=&CID=IT_CRM_1_0_0_14&a=1708&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&sid=8a0fd69d-a558-4b59-9ded-bdc251259a64&division=firenze-special&uh=3e3b6587-d928-48a9-a508-ee3a1c1e2a59&date=20151401&sender=rm&s=body&c=deal_title&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=accord-solution-2-54185895
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on January 14, 2015, 01:05:25 PM
Why would you need a driving tour in Florence? There are plenty of walking tours
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 14, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
Why would you need a driving tour in Florence? There are plenty of walking tours
Might be easier with kids
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on January 14, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
Might be easier with kids
With a baby or a kid?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 14, 2015, 02:10:36 PM
Why would you need a driving tour in Florence? There are plenty of walking tours
+1?
Might be easier with kids
The streets in Florence are so narrow that it's very hard to drive on the, not to mention the fact that many are closed to cars completely.

I'd definitely recommend walking.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 14, 2015, 03:46:23 PM
It's with golf carts, but I get the point. Thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Jb93davis on January 14, 2015, 10:26:14 PM

I ended up not calling the Chabad in Florence to ask about Ruth's although I could have just walked in and asked them when I was there, as it does you doors down. We heard from other sources that Ruth's was not reliable and to just bring food from elsewhere which  is exactly what we did.

When I was there, we asked the schluchim (not the rabbi) about it and they definitely didn't tell us not to go. I can't think back to the exact words but I guess pop in the chabad and ask them. I also remember that they bring food from rome to freeze it. They might have been selling also (or giving it out. Not sure.) worth a call. Not sure if they're there all year or only in winter
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: mochada on January 14, 2015, 10:39:32 PM
When I was there, we asked the schluchim (not the rabbi) about it and they definitely didn't tell us not to go. I can't think back to the exact words but I guess pop in the chabad and ask them. I also remember that they bring food from rome to freeze it. They might have been selling also (or giving it out. Not sure.) worth a call. Not sure if they're there all year or only in winter

Chabad says straight out that the hechsher is no good.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 22, 2015, 12:17:02 AM
Going to be here for 1 1/2 days in March. What are the must see's?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 22, 2015, 12:23:05 AM
Going to be here for 1 1/2 days in March. What are the must see's?
Academia gallery and Ufizzi. Also, Piazzalo Michelangelo had an amazing view of the city. It offers a great view of the city. The Great Synagogue is also a nice tour.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on February 22, 2015, 01:19:04 AM
Anyone take a bike/walking tour in the greater Florence/Tuscany area?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Love 2 Travel on February 22, 2015, 01:24:56 AM
Anyone take a bike/walking tour in the greater Florence/Tuscany area?
I took a full day biking and winery tour a couple of years ago. It was absolutely stunning! Biking was tough at times but they offered rides in the van for those who couldn't do it. 
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on February 22, 2015, 01:45:04 AM
sunset from the ponte vecchio
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on February 22, 2015, 03:27:41 AM
I took a full day biking and winery tour a couple of years ago. It was absolutely stunning! Biking was tough at times but they offered rides in the van for those who couldn't do it.
Thanks! Do you happen to remember with whom? Was it more scenery or wineries (we're just looking for scenic). Through Google I see there are a number of different options, but am looking for a recommendation. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on February 22, 2015, 09:48:01 AM
Academia gallery and Ufizzi. Also, Piazzalo Michelangelo had an amazing view of the city. It offers a great view of the city. The Great Synagogue is also a nice tour.
+1 to all of these (although we only did the one with the David, it is really a site to behold), we didn't have time for both. The Great Synagogue is stunning. It is open every alternating half hour, with the museum upstairs open the they half hour. I wouldn't wait to see the museum if you get there at the beginning of a half hour.
I'd also consider doing a walking tour of the city (although you'd have to wait outside the Duomo for a little while)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 22, 2015, 11:42:22 AM
Anyone take a bike/walking tour in the greater Florence/Tuscany area?
We drove from Rome to Florence and spend the night in a small town in Tuscany. We spent some time at a few towns, including Sienna and Pisa, and loved every minute of it. It's really hilly, so biking would be more of the workout variety than the leisurely type.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Love 2 Travel on February 22, 2015, 11:45:28 AM
Thanks! Do you happen to remember with whom? Was it more scenery or wineries (we're just looking for scenic). Through Google I see there are a number of different options, but am looking for a recommendation. Thanks again!
I remember exactly how much time was spent doing each activity but you can ask them....btw, lunch was also included
www.tuscany-biketours.com
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on February 22, 2015, 01:30:22 PM
We drove from Rome to Florence and spend the night in a small town in Tuscany. We spent some time at a few towns, including Sienna and Pisa, and loved every minute of it. It's really hilly, so biking would be more of the workout variety than the leisurely type.
Thanks! I'm starting to get the idea that we're trying to cram two trips (Tuscany and Venice) into one 4.5 day whirlwind.
I remember exactly how much time was spent doing each activity but you can ask them....btw, lunch was also included
www.tuscany-biketours.com
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 22, 2015, 01:37:11 PM
Thanks! I'm starting to get the idea that we're trying to cram two trips (Tuscany and Venice) into one 4.5 day whirlwind.Thanks a lot!
Yup, 4.5 days is too few to see Tuscany and Venice, but if you had an extra day it'd be perfect.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on March 03, 2015, 04:03:45 PM
Do you guys recommend if I will be in Florence for 2 days I take along food from NY?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Aj3042 on March 03, 2015, 04:08:04 PM
Do you guys recommend if I will be in Florence for 2 days I take along food from NY?
Yes there's very little there-just one restaurant as far as I know.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on March 03, 2015, 04:10:39 PM
Yes there's very little there-just one restaurant as far as I know.
And AYLOR re the hechsher
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 03, 2015, 04:12:02 PM
Do you guys recommend if I will be in Florence for 2 days I take along food from NY?
We brought food from home. Probably easier if you won't eat in the restaurant or don't want to get involved in the whole debate.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Aj3042 on March 03, 2015, 04:34:17 PM
We brought food from home. Probably easier if you won't eat in the restaurant or don't want to get involved in the whole debate.
Though it is a dairy restaurant so the issues are not as serious.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 03, 2015, 04:38:41 PM
Though it is a dairy restaurant so the issues are not as serious.
I'm well aware.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Aj3042 on March 03, 2015, 04:51:23 PM
I'm well aware.
I happen not to find it to be a particularly amazing place-the portions are small, service just ok-and in Italy you expect better pasta and desserts but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on March 03, 2015, 11:42:44 PM
I will bring from NY but I am a little worried about customs in FRA & FLR. Anyone remember if they stop & search in these places?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 04, 2015, 12:46:01 AM
I will bring from NY but I am a little worried about customs in FRA & FLR. Anyone remember if they stop & search in these places?
You would only get stopped in Frankfurt. There is no customs between countries within Europe. They don't even stop and search for anything or ask if you are bringing in anything. I didn't travel with meat or cheese, but I did have packets of tuna, and it was all fine.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 04, 2015, 07:11:38 AM
Are you flying into FLR? Won't you first be in VCE or FCO? You can pick up food from there.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 04, 2015, 09:08:08 AM
And AYLOR re the hechsher

I asked several Rabbonim in Europe including the Chief Rabbi of Rome and all said Ruths was ok. There are certainly politics w local Chabad as they opened across the street so I wouldn't exactly say that the local Shliach is the right person to ask
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 04, 2015, 09:15:40 AM
I asked several Rabbonim in Europe including the Chief Rabbi of Rome and all said Ruths was ok. There are certainly politics w local Chabad as they opened across the street so I wouldn't exactly say that the local Shliach is the right person to ask
He didn't say to ask the local Shliach.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Aj3042 on March 04, 2015, 09:35:55 AM
I asked several Rabbonim in Europe including the Chief Rabbi of Rome and all said Ruths was ok. There are certainly politics w local Chabad as they opened across the street so I wouldn't exactly say that the local Shliach is the right person to ask
Sounds right to me I've heard similar things.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 04, 2015, 09:52:04 AM
He didn't say to ask the local Shliach.

Correct

I was just cautioning against that

I asked a respected Halachic authority in NY who referred me to a couple of different Rabbonim in Europe and both told me that it was ok

Not sure what everyone's different standards are so this is obviously not a blanket ruling
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on March 04, 2015, 09:54:57 AM
I asked several Rabbonim in Europe including the Chief Rabbi of Rome and all said Ruths was ok. There are certainly politics w local Chabad as they opened across the street so I wouldn't exactly say that the local Shliach is the right person to ask
Trust me, I didn't ask the local shliach
And I didn't give any ruling at all. I just said to AYLOR
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 04, 2015, 10:37:20 AM
My Rabbi told me he trusts Rabbi Eidlitz from kosherquest.org and that I should speak to him for finding out who to rely on in Europe. I called him, and for Italy, he gave me the phone number for the Chabad Rabbi in Milan and told me he can be relied on for Italy questions. That Rabbi said not to go to Ruth's. But, again, that's just my Rabbi.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on March 04, 2015, 10:43:01 AM
Chabad opened across the street a restaurant? Whats the name?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 04, 2015, 10:46:36 AM
Chabad opened across the street a restaurant? Whats the name?
When I was there (just a random weekday afternoon) Chabad had a storefront, but it didn't seem like a restaurant at all.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Aron27 on July 23, 2015, 05:52:34 AM
Going to Florence for one day and can't decide what to do, any suggestions?  Btw I'm not so interested in museums/art.. Thanks
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 23, 2015, 06:36:50 AM
Going to Florence for one day and can't decide what to do, any suggestions?  Btw I'm not so interested in museums/art.. Thanks
I did 1/2 day in Florence and the other half in Pisa. Maybe you can get some ideas from what I did (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=42333.msg1134754#msg1134754).
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on February 28, 2016, 09:26:37 PM
Has anyone been to the Tuscany region?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 28, 2016, 11:32:03 PM
Has anyone been to the Tuscany region?
Yup, drove  from Rome to Florence and spent the night in Piensa.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 12:02:34 AM
Going to Florence for one day and can't decide what to do, any suggestions?  Btw I'm not so interested in museums/art.. Thanks

One day is perfect, walk... Get lost.. Walk some more.. Over some bridges.. Go to Ruth's I think its called to eat.. Tour the shul.. Stay at the St. Regis!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Aron27 on February 29, 2016, 12:38:31 AM

One day is perfect, walk... Get lost.. Walk some more.. Over some bridges.. Go to Ruth's I think its called to eat.. Tour the shul.. Stay at the St. Regis!
That's basically what I did.. Had a great time..
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 29, 2016, 12:48:34 AM
One day in Florence is enough, I agree, but if you want to tour Tuscany you need more time than that.
Title: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yakrot on February 29, 2016, 01:01:10 AM
One day in Florence is enough, I agree, but if you want to tour Tuscany you need more time than that.
unless you are a museum/art guy then you would need a lot more time
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 29, 2016, 01:02:23 AM
unless you are a museum/art guy then you would need a lot more time
Obviously, if you like art you need longer in Florence.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 01:09:52 AM
Obviously, if you like art you need longer in Florence.

I dont like art, I love art. Was very dissapointed by the quality of the pieces both in Venice & Florence.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 29, 2016, 01:29:02 AM
I dont like art, I love art. Was very dissapointed by the quality of the pieces both in Venice & Florence.
Venice isn't known for art, Florence is known for some. I assume you like the museums in Paris better?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on February 29, 2016, 06:56:57 AM
One day is perfect, walk... Get lost.. Walk some more.. Over some bridges.. Go to Ruth's I think its called to eat.. Tour the shul.. Stay at the St. Regis!
I suggest looking into Ruth's before eating there.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on February 29, 2016, 07:17:40 AM
We've had this argument before but I'm still shocked when people don't include the David on any one day in Florence itinerary
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on February 29, 2016, 07:17:49 AM
I suggest looking into Ruth's before eating there.
+1
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on February 29, 2016, 09:14:22 AM
How hard is it to get around the Tuscany region by public transportation? ie in Siena there is a kosher winery under the OK.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 09:40:35 AM
We've had this argument before but I'm still shocked when people don't include the David on any one day in Florence itinerary

you rather starve? its good in a dire situation :)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 09:41:50 AM
Venice isn't known for art, Florence is known for some. I assume you like the museums in Paris better?

Yeah.. My fave 3 are:

Gallery in London
Louvre
The Met

Venice had an art gallery which was terrible, Florence had some good pieces here & there but overall it wasnt my taste.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 29, 2016, 09:55:13 AM
How hard is it to get around the Tuscany region by public transportation? ie in Siena there is a kosher winery under the OK.
Hard, time consuming but doable. Rent a car and save yourself the hassle.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on February 29, 2016, 10:32:09 AM
you rather starve? its good in a dire situation :)
I assume you quoted the wrong post.
I don't think Yehuda meant from a food quality perspective, but rather a kashrus one
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 10:40:17 AM
I assume you quoted the wrong post.
I don't think Yehuda meant from a food quality perspective, but rather a kashrus one

oh ok.. its a vegetarian place.. AYLOR.
Such a place in NY would close down after a week.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on February 29, 2016, 11:44:26 AM
Has anyone been to the shuls/historic jewish sites in and around the area? Which ones do you recommend going to see?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 29, 2016, 11:45:03 AM
Has anyone been to the shuls/historic jewish sites in and around the area? Which ones do you recommend going to see?
I was at the shuls in Siena and Florence, with Florence being a lot bigger and nicer.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on February 29, 2016, 11:57:47 AM
Hard, time consuming but doable. Rent a car and save yourself the hassle.
Did you get a car in florence or you had a car the whole time?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 29, 2016, 12:01:40 PM
Did you get a car in florence or you had a car the whole time?
We rented a car in Rome, drove to Tivoli, then to Pienza where we spent the night. Next day we drove to a few towns in Tuscany before ending up in Florence for the night. The Tuscany part of my TR can be found here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43473.msg867370#msg867370).
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on February 29, 2016, 12:05:21 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 12:06:19 PM
Has anyone been to the shuls/historic jewish sites in and around the area? Which ones do you recommend going to see?

Shul in Florence is very nice. If you like old jewish antiques, letters etc they have some interesting kesubas hanging on the shul walls. Some I found fascinating
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on April 19, 2016, 02:58:45 PM
Has anyone stayed at Hotel Regency in Florence? What was your experience?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: maxie m on July 07, 2016, 01:35:58 AM
Has anyone been to the Prada space outlet in montevarchi(a little off of Florence)?is it worh visiting?heard from a friend that the prices were dirt cheap compared to the states,but looking online I'm getting conflicting reports, thanks!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yg99 on July 07, 2016, 01:43:02 PM
Yes, I've been there. My wife says the prices were great.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: rcarentals on July 24, 2016, 09:13:09 AM
Trying to figure out 2 days worth of touring in Florence. Looking for suggestions/critique/ideas/info.

People seem to only ever go for one day.. but surely there is enough for two?

Day 1 Arriving around 11am at the Hotel Lungarno right by the Ponte Vecchio

Freshen up and go for some light touring
Eat food brought with from NYC for brunch.
Walk to the Ferregamo Museum
Then the Uffizi
Walk to Piazzale Michelangelo
Then taxi to Bobolini gardens (if too tired then will skip this and taxi straight to ruths?)
--Dinner ar Ruths taxi back to hotel
Then enjoy the ponte vecchio/Arno for Sunset

Day 2. Walking everywhere
Not sure what we will be eating - heard about a pizza place that also sells turkey sandwhiches - does it still exist? if so anyone know where?
Start with a tour of the Jewish Shul + Museum walking there from the Hotel/Ponte Vecchio
Walk to the Accademia gallery
walk to the Leather markets
Walk via the Duomo to the Arno back through city.
(Dinner at ruths? taxi there n back.)

(this second day comes out to 3 miles walking the whole time - not bad.)

Day 3 early train to venice.
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trying to figure out which museum passes are worth buying in advance and which are not - also anyone figure out if the english tours are on the half hour or the hour at the shul?
any suggestions for food? local kosher items? bread? kosher lists or supermarket with kosher products?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: maxie m on July 24, 2016, 11:38:03 AM
Yes, I've been there. My wife says the prices were great.
just saw your post, would you remember ballpark range? Thanks!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 24, 2016, 07:32:06 PM
Rcarentals: if you're into museums, then I'm sure you can fill up 2 days. FYI: check into Kashrus at Ruth's. Not everyone agrees that it's reliable.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: rcarentals on July 31, 2016, 11:17:33 PM
where are the turkey sandwhiches and pizza from? any other ideas for food in Florence itself?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: MANDMMOM on November 10, 2016, 03:22:22 PM
Hi,
Has anyone been to Sicily/Palermo/Syracuse? Thinking of doing a Monday-Thursday trip there, staying in Venice the Shabbos before and in Switzerland the Shabbos afterwards. Any recommendations on activities and hotels there? Also would Venice and Sicily be very similar experiences and should I exchange one for a different Italian city?
TIA
Title: Where to stay in Florence Italy during Honeymoon
Post by: dogfighter422 on April 26, 2017, 10:26:36 AM
We will be staying in Florence during our honeymoon for 3 nights, 6/15-6/18. We have ample Hilton points to stay at the Hilton Metropele, just outside of town, for free. I'm wondering if we would be missing out on the romance of the town by staying in a business Hilton outside the city? Would we be better off spending $800 to stay at the gorgeous Mulino Di Farenza? Or spend less and stay inside the city in a B&B? Or should we stay at an agroturismo outside the city?

We plan on touring Florence for two of the days and taking a wine tour one of the days.

Before this we will be travelling for 4 nights in Venice and 2 nights in Cinque Terre!

Thank's for your help! We've looked at Westin Excelsior and St Regis but they are all booked up for point redemptions!
Title: Where to stay in Florence Italy during Honeymoon
Post by: mmgfarb on April 26, 2017, 10:28:24 AM
You couldn't post in one of the Italy threads?
Title: Re: Where to stay in Florence Italy during Honeymoon
Post by: as2 on April 26, 2017, 10:51:36 AM
You couldn't post in one of the Italy threads?
They must've been moved to the restricted area, only we can see them
Title: Re: Where to stay in Florence Italy during Honeymoon
Post by: CreamofSoup on April 26, 2017, 10:56:28 AM
They must've been moved to the restricted area, only we can see them

Didn't know Dan upgraded my account. Sweet!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jose34 on June 29, 2017, 04:29:32 PM
Looking at going to Leaning tower of Pisa and saw a nice park is nearby the Natural Park Migliarino San Rossore. Anyone has been there know anything about it?
Title: Shabbat in Florence Italy
Post by: Kroch on July 04, 2017, 07:13:32 AM
We will be in Florence for Shabbat in early August and would like to use the afternoon to explore the city.
Does anyone have suggestions for us? Thanks
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 04, 2017, 09:30:17 PM
We will be in Florence for Shabbat in early August and would like to use the afternoon to explore the city.
Does anyone have suggestions for us? Thanks
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jose34 on July 13, 2017, 06:19:55 PM
Anyone stay by the  AC Hotel is Pisa? It's a Marriott rewards.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: solreis263@gmail.com on July 13, 2017, 10:35:03 PM
Hi,

We will be in Florence for 8/10/17 (Thursday) we will be travelling from Rome and going to Venice.

1) My first question is - should we leave Rome (arriving in Rome on 8/8 Monday Morning) on Wednesday night or Thursday morning?
2) Is it worthwhile to go to Pisa, or should we just stay in Florence for the day?
3) Do you recommend we take the tour in Florence?
4) What are the main places to visit in Florence?
5) Hotel recommendation next to shul in  Florence?
6) What is the latest regarding Hechsher by Ruth?

Thank you
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 14, 2017, 09:18:08 AM
Anyone stay by the  AC Hotel is Pisa? It's a Marriott rewards.
Yes. See my TR (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=42333.msg1135480#msg1135480).

Hi,

We will be in Florence for 8/10/17 (Thursday) we will be travelling from Rome and going to Venice.

1) My first question is - should we leave Rome (arriving in Rome on 8/8 Monday Morning) on Wednesday night or Thursday morning?
2) Is it worthwhile to go to Pisa, or should we just stay in Florence for the day?
3) Do you recommend we take the tour in Florence?
4) What are the main places to visit in Florence?
5) Hotel recommendation next to shul in  Florence?
6) What is the latest regarding Hechsher by Ruth?

Thank you

1) See if you can find a good option for you for a hotel for Wednesday night. If not, leave Thursday morning. Driving vs. train will probably impact your decision as well.
2) Pisa was fun to see the tower. Total time needed in Pisa is probably an hour, plus probably 30 min each way from Florence. so if you can throw it in, why not?
3) The Shul tour? It was nice and short. Mostly interested in seeing the Shul, the tour itself wasn't that amazing. (Just a guide talking to you while you sat in the pews.)
4) See my TR (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=42333.msg1134754#msg1134754) for some ideas.
6) Talk to Chabad of Milan for more information. In 2014 they said it wasn't reliable.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on July 14, 2017, 09:37:02 AM

4) What are the main places to visit in Florence?

Ponte Vecchio
Shul
Michaelangelo's David (at the Accademia)
View from the Campanile
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 17, 2017, 08:47:04 AM
July 12, 2017 from the Comunità Ebraica di Firenze:
"Please note that Ruth's kosher vegeterian restaurant in Florence's Italy is no longer under the supervision of the Jewish community and /or it's chief rabbi. The kashruth certification of the community and its Rabbi is not valid any longer since last three months."
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 17, 2017, 08:48:34 AM
From
http://www.kashrut.com/Alerts/?alert=A5989
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 17, 2017, 08:58:05 AM
July 12, 2017 from the Comunità Ebraica di Firenze:
"Please note that Ruth's kosher vegeterian restaurant in Florence's Italy is no longer under the supervision of the Jewish community and /or it's chief rabbi. The kashruth certification of the community and its Rabbi is not valid any longer since last three months."
Well that's good news for all who at there.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2017, 03:02:32 PM
Lol, to be fair I don't think Chabad ever said to eat there.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ergel on July 17, 2017, 03:51:37 PM
Lol, to be fair I don't think Chabad ever said to eat there.
I'm not sure I heard any outside observer recommend eating there
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 17, 2017, 03:52:41 PM
Lol, to be fair I don't think Chabad ever said to eat there.
Correct, which is why I never ate there. Now though it should be universal.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on July 17, 2017, 04:45:29 PM
Unless it improved dramatically since '08, you ain't missing out on much.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 17, 2017, 08:30:18 PM
Ruth's was fantastic when we ate there a few years ago. We are very sad to see it "go".
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 18, 2017, 10:36:10 AM
Anywhere to buy Kosher anything in Florence?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 18, 2017, 10:42:03 AM
Anywhere to buy Kosher anything in Florence?
Best bring from other places. We didn't find anywhere.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 18, 2017, 11:00:01 AM
Best bring from other places. We didn't find anywhere.
I emailed chabad of Venice they sent a response immediately. Mostly stuff we buy anyway (rice cakes, grape juice, jams) and some other goodies ( Italian olives...)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 18, 2017, 11:39:26 AM
The food was garbage with a wait and a waste of time.
Wasn't even considered dog food,
And the prices were an utter rip off.

Your better off eating raw wheat, beans and unfiltered water from the Arno River
I assume you're referring to Ruth's. Our experience was diametrically opposite!  Must have been different time and circumstances. It's no longer relevant but goes to show you how you have to take individual reviews with a grain of salt...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 18, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
Anyone been to Ferrara?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: mochada on July 18, 2017, 03:38:37 PM
I assume you're referring to Ruth's. Our experience was diametrically opposite!  Must have been different time and circumstances. It's no longer relevant but goes to show you how you have to take individual reviews with a grain of salt...

Been to Ruth's twice. Both had exceptional service and good food.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 18, 2017, 03:55:24 PM
If anyone still has doubts...

https://yeahthatskosher.com/2017/07/ruths-in-florence-italy-loses-its-kashrut-certification/
 But not without controversy in the comments
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on July 18, 2017, 04:12:03 PM
Anywhere to buy Kosher anything in Florence?
Chabad will make you supper if you pre-order it.  I ordered for my upcoming Aug trip. Easier than bringing supper.  I'll review it when I've eaten it.  My hope is that it's edible and plentiful.
https://jewishtuscanycom.clhosting.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/3696683/jewish/Kosher-Dinner-Service.htm/lang/en

Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 18, 2017, 05:00:05 PM
Chabad will make you supper if you pre-order it.  I ordered for my upcoming Aug trip. Easier than bringing supper.  I'll review it when I've eaten it.  My hope is that it's edible and plentiful.
https://jewishtuscanycom.clhosting.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/3696683/jewish/Kosher-Dinner-Service.htm/lang/en
Cool!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 18, 2017, 05:03:10 PM
Chabad will make you supper if you pre-order it.  I ordered for my upcoming Aug trip. Easier than bringing supper.  I'll review it when I've eaten it.  My hope is that it's edible and plentiful.
https://jewishtuscanycom.clhosting.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/3696683/jewish/Kosher-Dinner-Service.htm/lang/en
Just a quick DP: must order more than 48hrs in  advance and it's about €45\pp
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 18, 2017, 08:57:51 PM
As of the end of May 2017, Ruth's restaurant has been under the kosher supervision of the IKC, per an update on that yeahitskosher site. Tried to attach teudah but file was too big but there's a link on that site.  It looks like the IKC gives a number of hashgachos in NY so I'm sure some of the NYC DDs can shed some light on its acceptance level.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Suave on July 18, 2017, 10:02:03 PM
Anywhere to buy Kosher anything in Florence?
Carefeur near the shul had a small kosher section IIRC
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 18, 2017, 10:37:39 PM
As of the end of May 2017, Ruth's restaurant has been under the kosher supervision of the IKC, per an update on that yeahitskosher site. Tried to attach teudah but file was too big but there's a link on that site.  It looks like the IKC gives a number of hashgachos in NY so I'm sure some of the NYC DDs can shed some light on its acceptance level.
Generally not accepted, though, Ruth's was not accepted by most before. So it's probably a wash. Though I'm genuinely curious how a rabbi in Brooklyn is providing Hashgacha on this.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 09:24:09 AM
Generally not accepted, though, Ruth's was not accepted by most before. So it's probably a wash. Though I'm genuinely curious how a rabbi in Brooklyn is providing Hashgacha on this.

WOW! I can not even say how disappointed I am in this thread. The total disregard for the effects your comments have on someones parnasa is astounding. Especially since they are completely false.
If you're genuinely curious than find out in a less public way. Also, who are you to say if the IKC is generally accepted, you live in your "bubble" and maybe it's not accepted there but in my "bubble" it's very accepted. This isn't Israel or America it's not as easy to make OU and name brand hechshers work.
To answer your curiousity, just like major hechshers in America, the main Rabbi associated with the hechsher doesn't visit every store every day. He has people working for him who can check up on the restaurants themselves. In this case it is the Chazzan of the shul, Jacopo Treves who is the Masgiach. It just so happens the "rabbi in Brooklyn" will be there next week but that is totally irrelevant.
This thread is literally what's wrong with the politics of Kashruth and Judaism in general. If you knew the man you were hurting you would be ashamed. He told me he would love to leave Florence to go to a city or country with a more vibrant Jewish community but he feels if he left there would be no where for Jews to get Kosher food and people might eat non-kosher, so he stays. That is the person you are doubting and hurting...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 09:24:57 AM
Carefeur near the shul had a small kosher section IIRC

Yes, Ruths.  It was misinformation that it is not Kosher.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 09:26:53 AM
Unless it improved dramatically since '08, you ain't missing out on much.

Disagree, ate there several times and was always good to very good. Agreed, it doesn't live up to NY restaurant standards but in a city with no other options it is awesome!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 09:29:32 AM
I am. And would not have given the review if it had a hashgacha
Well it does have a hashgacha even if you don't hold by it. So if you really meant what you said then you should delete your previous post. Again, your posts are seriously hurting a fellow Jew who is just trying to do good.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 09:38:33 AM
Lol, to be fair I don't think Chabad ever said to eat there.

This will be my last response on the matter, sorry for the abundance of posts. I just wish you could meet the man who owns it and see the tears he cries when he talks about how hard it is to keep a kosher place open in Florence and how much harder these posts make it.
Anyways, I lived there for a few months years ago and had a relationship with both chabad and Ruths and their lack of recommendation of Ruths has everything to do with their poor relationship. I tried to help them mend fences, it didn't work. As great as chabad is, they are not unbiased in this situation and can't be counted on to make any unbiased recomendation regarding the kasruth of Ruths. If you are concerned I promise the owner would let you into his kitchen to check his ingredients and even light the flame for the food he is cooking you. He has an open kitchen and nothing to hide. Feel free to do some more of your own research. And please let's just be more open minded with each other. 
Dan you didn't say anything wrong, this was directed at the Dans deals community. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moish on July 19, 2017, 09:43:54 AM
Disagree, ate there several times and was always good to very good. Agreed, it doesn't live up to NY restaurant standards but in a city with no other options it is awesome!
in '08?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 19, 2017, 09:44:38 AM
Chabad (down the street from Ruths) just told me (and a bunch of ultra orthodox chassidim) that as of this week the kashrus teudah was pulled. As the article states. Need any more clarification?
No one is saying it isn't Kosher. But i doubt most people here would eat somewhere there isn't a teudah.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
Chabad (down the street from Ruths) just told me (and a bunch of ultra orthodox chassidim) that as of this week the kashrus teudah was pulled. As the article states. Need any more clarification?
No one is saying it isn't Kosher. But i doubt most people here would eat somewhere there isn't a teudah.
Again, misinformation. They changed hashgachas. It was under the supervision of the Rabbi of the Shul (next door) however, the Rabbi is no longer with the shul so they got a new certification until they replace the Rabbi. Current and up to date Teudah can be found here: https://nrt3p27yx671tjb2n1qst3r1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/teudah-kashruth-5777.pdf or in the link of this Yeahthatskosher.com post https://yeahthatskosher.com/2017/07/ruths-in-florence-italy-loses-its-kashrut-certification/
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 10:06:49 AM
in '08?
Weirdly yes, but also been back since then.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on July 19, 2017, 01:02:39 PM
WOW! I can not even say how disappointed I am in this thread. The total disregard for the effects your comments have on someones parnasa is astounding. Especially since they are completely false.
If you're genuinely curious than find out in a less public way. Also, who are you to say if the IKC is generally accepted, you live in your "bubble" and maybe it's not accepted there but in my "bubble" it's very accepted. This isn't Israel or America it's not as easy to make OU and name brand hechshers work.
To answer your curiousity, just like major hechshers in America, the main Rabbi associated with the hechsher doesn't visit every store every day. He has people working for him who can check up on the restaurants themselves. In this case it is the Chazzan of the shul, Jacopo Treves who is the Masgiach. It just so happens the "rabbi in Brooklyn" will be there next week but that is totally irrelevant.
This thread is literally what's wrong with the politics of Kashruth and Judaism in general. If you knew the man you were hurting you would be ashamed. He told me he would love to leave Florence to go to a city or country with a more vibrant Jewish community but he feels if he left there would be no where for Jews to get Kosher food and people might eat non-kosher, so he stays. That is the person you are doubting and hurting...

All my post was doing was quoting 2 data points as I see them:

1. The IKC is not generally accepted. I use the word "generally" to mean that it does not appear on the CRC or Kosherquest lists, the two most authoritative lists. I have never seen a Vaad or other Orthodox Kasharus agency publicly endorse it. It should be noted that many smaller Vaads are on those types of lists, and many agencies out of NYC appear.

2. Ruth's previously was not widely accepted. I personally spoke to many Rabbis, including a former Rabbi in a different Italian city, and it was not recommended. I'm sure people ate there, but again, I did not see it widely endorsed.

My comment was not intended to say whether people should or shouldn't eat there. Additionally, I think you'll find that on this forum, everyone roots for there to be as much Kosher food around the world as possible. I believe it is constructive feedback to acknowledge the relative 'weakness' of the current state, as perhaps it will enable the restaurant to seek a more mainstream option, much like the restaurants in Rome and Milan have done.

My intention was not to hurt or disparage anyone. I apologize if I was misunderstood.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
All my post was doing was quoting 2 data points as I see them:

1. The IKC is not generally accepted. I use the word "generally" to mean that it does not appear on the CRC or Kosherquest lists, the two most authoritative lists. I have never seen a Vaad or other Orthodox Kasharus agency publicly endorse it. It should be noted that many smaller Vaads are on those types of lists, and many agencies out of NYC appear.

2. Ruth's previously was not widely accepted. I personally spoke to many Rabbis, including a former Rabbi in a different Italian city, and it was not recommended. I'm sure people ate there, but again, I did not see it widely endorsed.

My comment was not intended to say whether people should or shouldn't eat there. Additionally, I think you'll find that on this forum, everyone roots for there to be as much Kosher food around the world as possible. I believe it is constructive feedback to acknowledge the relative 'weakness' of the current state, as perhaps it will enable the restaurant to seek a more mainstream option, much like the restaurants in Rome and Milan have done.

My intention was not to hurt or disparage anyone. I apologize if I was misunderstood.

I can see your post wasn't intended to do harm, and although I quoted you it was really for everyone. The Rabbi of Florence leaving the shul meant he needed to change to a new hashgacha.  Instead of anyone (not your fault, rather the people that reported it) looking to see if he replaced it with a new one they only reported that he lost the old one. I can tell you with certainty that no one contacted the owner to find out any information before they posted that he lost his hechsher.

We can argue all day and night about the legitimacy of different hechshers but everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's none of my business, it's up to the individual to accept it or not. What I got so upset about was that places like Kashrut.com and Yeahthatskosher.com posted that he had no hechsher only to have made corrections the very next day. Great that they made the corrections but so much damage has already been done because they couldn't take the time to investigate anything. Yes he lost his haschacha but he got a new one, a pretty key detail that was completely left out. The fact that everyone here seemed to hop on board the "Ruth's definitely isn't kosher" bandwagon bothered me. Especially when someone is calling it dog food, but also said they wouldn't say that it if it had a hechsher.

I know I am not going to get anywhere with this I just didn't want a Jew, that much is a fact, to have his business ruined because of all this. Sorry if I came off a little harsh but I know the owner and it killed me to see him go through all this because of some bad reporting. No need to apologize, you seem like a well intentioned person
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 19, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
If I had to bet, he got more publicity than he ever had before because of this, and in the end of the day, it probably will help his business, as those that would have eaten there under the old hashgacha will likely eat there under IKC as well. IKC is all over NY too and I haven't found a Rabbi or site (as mentioned by shaulyaakov) that lists the IKC as reliable. Wouldn't it be nice if Ruth's could just get Chabad of Florence to provide supervision? :)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Friars500 on July 19, 2017, 02:14:20 PM
So to recap - Ruth's had a local hashgacha by the local chief Rabbi of Florence and not by Chabbad.  In May 2017, said Rabbi left the city of Florence and because there was no local Rabbi to certify, Ruth's no longer carried the local hashgacha.  To remedy, Ruth's received certification from the IKC and the IKC is currently  the certifying agency.  Acceptance of the IKC is at best controversial (I won't eat their establishments) and I hope when the new Rabbi gets hired, he and the local Chabad can work something out that the Chabbad will at least respect his Kashrus standards.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jas1285 on July 19, 2017, 02:47:27 PM
Wouldn't it be nice if Ruth's could just get Chabad of Florence to provide supervision? :)
Not sure this is the publicity anyone wants but maybe Dan can broker a deal between them while he is in Italy ;D
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 19, 2017, 02:49:29 PM
So to recap - Ruth's had a local hashgacha by the local chief Rabbi of Florence and not by Chabbad.  In May 2017, said Rabbi left the city of Florence and because there was no local Rabbi to certify, Ruth's no longer carried the local hashgacha.  To remedy, Ruth's received certification from the IKC and the IKC is currently  the certifying agency.  Acceptance of the IKC is at best controversial (I won't eat their establishments) and I hope when the new Rabbi gets hired, he and the local Chabad can work something out that the Chabbad will at least respect his Kashrus standards.
That's a good summary IMO.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: mimb on December 28, 2017, 11:39:29 AM
Any hotel recommendations for Florence? Based on some TR's it looks like people stayed at either the St. Regis, or the AC hotel (which is probably too far outside Florence for me without a car). I don't need anything fancy just something clean and safe
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yg99 on December 28, 2017, 01:15:59 PM
I enjoyed the Westin.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 28, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
Any hotel recommendations for Florence? Based on some TR's it looks like people stayed at either the St. Regis, or the AC hotel (which is probably too far outside Florence for me without a car). I don't need anything fancy just something clean and safe
See my TR here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=43473.msg867387#msg867387)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 23, 2018, 09:44:58 PM
Anyone here been to florence with a kid (we're going with our three year old)?
Would those who've been to the museums think that a (relatively calm but sometimes speaks loudly) child would seem out of place?

ETA: The kosher winery tour in Sienna mentioned above is certified by the OK (it says the honey is too, but they don't mention the olive oil). http://www.terradiseta.it/eng/aboutus.html
Any other recommended wine tastings in tuscany? Came across this as well - they have a restaurant too.
http://cantinagiuliano.com/en/
anyone been?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on May 23, 2018, 11:05:39 PM
Any other recommended wine tastings in tuscany? Came across this as well - they have a restaurant too.
http://cantinagiuliano.com/en/
anyone been?

Check out Terra di Seta - http://www.terradiseta.it/eng/, I went there when I was in Florence, one of the better winery experiences I have had. The owner is a very nice guy.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 23, 2018, 11:07:03 PM
Check out Terra di Seta - http://www.terradiseta.it/eng/, I went there when I was in Florence, one of the better winery experiences I have had. The owner is a very nice guy.
Yup, that's the other one I saw. Do they have food there?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ajs625 on May 23, 2018, 11:33:19 PM
I do not believe so, but you can email them to see if that has changed as I was there in the summer of 2016.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on May 24, 2018, 12:08:24 AM
Any other recommended wine tastings in tuscany? Came across this as well - they have a restaurant too.
http://cantinagiuliano.com/en/ (http://cantinagiuliano.com/en/)
anyone been?
These guys even run a B&B.  It sounded great, but the hashgacha wasn't what I wanted, so I went to Terra di Seta. I enjoyed it. And the area is beautiful. 
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 24, 2018, 12:09:28 AM
These guys even run a B&B.  It sounded great, but the hashgacha wasn't what I wanted, so I went to Terra di Seta. I enjoyed it. And the area is beautiful.
Terra di seta is a few hours total?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on May 24, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
Terra di seta is a few hours total?
At the place I think the tour is an hour. But getting there takes time.  I drove. The last small road off the highway took half an hour.  and I got lost - confirm with them their GPS address. But quite a beautiful area. 
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Suave on May 28, 2018, 07:11:26 PM
Yup, that's the other one I saw. Do they have food there?
They served us a very light brunch (caprese salad, bread & oil etc)

I made friends with the mashgiach & he offered me his kitchen (on-site) to make lunch, but the brunch was enough for me.

The drive from florence is gorgeous, we took our time & stopped at some scenic overlooks. We ended up spending about 4 hours at the winery - The owner taught me so much about wine in that short period.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180529/4830e1f1dad87baf5ec987ed3b411849.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180529/4748cdc4ebe4f8ebd71ad87813521167.jpg)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: seemorehabs on May 30, 2018, 04:09:06 PM
Anyone have experience taking train from Rome  to Florence?
Where/what  is the best way to buy tickets?
TIA
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yitzyul on May 30, 2018, 04:47:49 PM
Anyone have experience taking train from Rome  to Florence?
Where/what  is the best way to buy tickets?
TIA
There is an excellent app called Trainline.eu
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yitzyul on May 30, 2018, 05:07:05 PM
In general how is the driving in Florence and Pisa? I understand that you can't really drive in the cities (ZTL) but trying to figure out if better off taking the train to Pisa & renting there, or renting in Florence and driving to Pisa. ( I will need a car after).
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 30, 2018, 06:57:34 PM
In general how is the driving in Florence and Pisa? I understand that you can't really drive in the cities (ZTL) but trying to figure out if better off taking the train to Pisa & renting there, or renting in Florence and driving to Pisa. ( I will need a car after).
I understand that the driving through Tuscany is supposed to be gorgeous
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 30, 2018, 06:59:55 PM
I understand that the driving through Tuscany is supposed to be gorgeous
It is, just don't get lost.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 30, 2018, 07:01:26 PM
Google maps?
It is, just don't get lost.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 30, 2018, 07:11:38 PM
Google maps?
I did that, until I ran into an area without service and the GPS on my phone didn't know where to send me.

Oh, and I couldn't download all of Tuscany on my phone as it was too big.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 30, 2018, 07:29:21 PM
I did that, until I ran into an area without service and the GPS on my phone didn't know where to send me.

Oh, and I couldn't download all of Tuscany on my phone as it was too big.
I got basically Rome to Venice in one download now. The max size is bigger
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moisheyb on May 31, 2018, 12:46:05 AM
Anyone have experience taking train from Rome  to Florence?
Where/what  is the best way to buy tickets?
TIA
The train was about an hour and a half, I bought it in the station, it's super easy there
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: seemorehabs on May 31, 2018, 02:54:39 AM
The train was about an hour and a half, I bought it in the station, it's super easy there
Thanks, I'm trying to buy in advance so i can plan timewise better.
Cant find the site  though....
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: seemorehabs on May 31, 2018, 02:59:06 AM
Going to Florence for one day and can't decide what to do, any suggestions?  Btw I'm not so interested in museums/art.. Thanks
We are going and will have 1 day in Florence, arriving on train from Rome and returning same day. What would you suggest for us, non art lovers (but prob will want to go see the David)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on May 31, 2018, 06:56:47 AM
It's a pretty city to walk around in, as long as the weather cooperates. There is the shul, which is worth seeing if interested. Also many craftsman (especially leather) selling the wares on the street. There is certainly enough to do. And, if you can get approval to eat at Ruth's (different views on its kashrus - assuming it's still there), we thought it was great food.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moisheyb on May 31, 2018, 07:35:45 AM
Thanks, I'm trying to buy in advance so i can plan timewise better.
Cant find the site  though....
The times were super flexible and I wanted to keep it open just in case.
Try goeruo.com (not sure about spelling) for prices, times and I think you can buy there also.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yitzyul on May 31, 2018, 07:37:32 AM
Thanks, I'm trying to buy in advance so i can plan timewise better.
Cant find the site  though....
there is an excellent easy to use app. Trainline.eu (or website). Also https://www.italiarail.com/
http://www.trenitalia.com/tcom-en
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Friars500 on May 31, 2018, 08:40:40 AM
It's a pretty city to walk around in, as long as the weather cooperates. There is the shul, which is worth seeing if interested. Also many craftsman (especially leather) selling the wares on the street. There is certainly enough to do. And, if you can get approval to eat at Ruth's (different views on its kashrus - assuming it's still there), we thought it was great food.

The hashgacha changed a year ago when the local Rabbi left town and they got someone from NYC who many people don't use even when in the same country.  How said person is (was) the certifying rabbi from thousands of miles away is beyond me.   I don't know whether the situation changed over the last several months. 
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 31, 2018, 09:14:30 AM
The hashgacha changed a year ago when the local Rabbi left town and they got someone from NYC who many people don't use even when in the same country.  How said person is (was) the certifying rabbi from thousands of miles away is beyond me.   I don't know whether the situation changed over the last several months.
What's the current hashgacha?
Edit.
Ughhh it's IKC
https://yeahthatskosher.com/2017/07/ruths-kosher-vegetarian-in-florence-italy-is-open-under-new-kosher-supervision/
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Friars500 on May 31, 2018, 09:48:42 AM
What's the current hashgacha?
Edit.
Ughhh it's IKC
https://yeahthatskosher.com/2017/07/ruths-kosher-vegetarian-in-florence-italy-is-open-under-new-kosher-supervision/

Not sure if that changed over the last few months (no reason to say one way or the other) but when they got IKC it was only supposed to be temporary until they settled the Rabbi situation.  I wish they could figure out something with the Chabad just down the street.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jose34 on May 31, 2018, 05:27:01 PM
there is an excellent easy to use app. Trainline.eu (or website). Also https://www.italiarail.com/
http://www.trenitalia.com/tcom-en

+1!
Seat61.com also has tons on info on Europe trains however if you only looking to take one train it might too much info for you.
Prices on Italian trains are variable, kind of airplane ticket so you might get a good deal at the train station but its better to book ahead.

There are also 2 train companies in Italy one is the national rail company - Trenitalia and one is the private one - Italo.
We took both, Italo has nicer trains but the other company is no big deal to take, I would say go based on timing and price.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2018, 06:52:30 PM
I wish they could figure out something with the Chabad just down the street.
+1
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 31, 2018, 06:53:59 PM
+1
Based on a recent thread on ddfb there seems to he some animosity from the venetian community toward chabad there. Not sure if that extends to other Italian cities
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2018, 07:52:54 PM
These guys even run a B&B.  It sounded great, but the hashgacha wasn't what I wanted, so I went to Terra di Seta. I enjoyed it. And the area is beautiful. 
What's the story with the hashgocha at cantina giuliano?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on May 31, 2018, 08:23:42 PM
What's the story with the hashgocha at cantina giuliano?
I couldn't get it confirmed as good.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 01, 2018, 06:19:07 AM
I couldn't get it confirmed as good.
What's the story with the hashgocha at cantina giuliano?
This is the owners response on ddfb. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/a65fd6600368ec5fb7c2607b0287e497.jpg)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: mimb on June 01, 2018, 03:25:42 PM
+1!
Seat61.com also has tons on info on Europe trains however if you only looking to take one train it might too much info for you.
Prices on Italian trains are variable, kind of airplane ticket so you might get a good deal at the train station but its better to book ahead.

There are also 2 train companies in Italy one is the national rail company - Trenitalia and one is the private one - Italo.
We took both, Italo has nicer trains but the other company is no big deal to take, I would say go based on timing and price.

Agreed on the variable pricing. Ended up costing me a lot more when I bought a ticket last minute assuming the prices were fixed. I took Italo from Rome to Florence to Venice and it was great
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 01, 2018, 05:55:09 PM
Agreed on the variable pricing. Ended up costing me a lot more when I bought a ticket last minute assuming the prices were fixed. I took Italo from Rome to Florence to Venice and it was great
Do both companies have the high speed rail?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jose34 on June 02, 2018, 05:54:41 PM
Yup. Times of how long in between cities should be similar.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on June 02, 2018, 11:03:46 PM
You should choose between the two based on schedule and which Rome station you want to leave from.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 03, 2018, 12:14:41 AM
Any specific places to rent a car in Florence for a day or 2? Need automatic and prefer close go train station?
No, I have not Google yet...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 04, 2018, 07:28:06 AM
+1
I wonder if the Chabad would certify Chalav Stam/require using only certified (imported) ingredients as opposed to Kosher lists.

In Hawaii, the Chabad of Honolulu does give C"S hashgacha to Lapperts so I guess it's not unheard of for that arrangement to happen.

I spent shabbos with Chabad of Florance a few years ago. The shaliach davened in the Great Synogouge, so I imagine any rumors of animosity are overblown.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 05, 2018, 04:16:59 AM
Look to be under chief rabbi of Florence. Not sure what that means though...
+1
Not sure if that changed over the last few months (no reason to say one way or the other) but when they got IKC it was only supposed to be temporary until they settled the Rabbi situation.  I wish they could figure out something with the Chabad just down the street.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/10b0f2d1000365b2325824df61e0afab.jpg)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yitzyul on June 05, 2018, 04:38:52 AM
Look to be under chief rabbi of Florence. Not sure what that means though... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/10b0f2d1000365b2325824df61e0afab.jpg)
I emailed Ruths and they sent me the IKC certificate so maybe under both?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 05, 2018, 07:14:50 AM
I emailed Ruths and they sent me the IKC certificate so maybe under both?
I emailed at 3 am and they said to email that chief rabbinate address
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: maylei on June 05, 2018, 08:37:56 AM
So would people say that it's kosher to eat there? And is that the only kosher place to eat in Florence ?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Dan on June 05, 2018, 09:18:32 AM
Ask for a local Teudah.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 05, 2018, 09:41:01 AM
Look to be under chief rabbi of Florence. Not sure what that means though...
Confusing... the name of the Rabbi in the email does not match the name of the Rabbi that the owner of the store provided you with in your Facebook screenshot.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 05, 2018, 09:43:35 AM
Confusing... the name of the Rabbi in the email does not match the name of the Rabbi that the owner of the store provided you with in your Facebook screenshot.
It's the same screenshot...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 05, 2018, 09:44:24 AM
Confusing... the name of the Rabbi in the email does not match the name of the Rabbi that the owner of the store provided you with in your Facebook screenshot.
And the name does match...


Ask for a local Teudah.

I replied back to the rabbi asking for it. When I asked Ruths in original email they directed me to the rabbi. Will follow up with both.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 05, 2018, 09:48:24 AM
Honestly, it is probably as good as any dairy in Italy is. Chabad not recommending it is not indicative of any problems with the hechsher per se...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 05, 2018, 09:57:37 AM
Screenshot 1 from owner on Facebook saying the Rabbi's name is Rav Didi Of Livorno:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/a65fd6600368ec5fb7c2607b0287e497.jpg)

Screenshot 2 from certifying Rabbi via email which has the Rabbi's name as Rav Amadeo Spagnoletto.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180605/10b0f2d1000365b2325824df61e0afab.jpg)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on June 05, 2018, 10:29:42 AM
Hello?!?
Isn't Eli Gauthier talking about his winery and restaurant Cantina Giuliano which is under the hashgacha of a Livorno Rav?
Ruth's is apparently under the hashgacha of local Florence rabbinate.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 05, 2018, 10:42:04 AM
Screenshot 1 from owner on Facebook saying the Rabbi's name is Rav Didi Of Livorno:
Screenshot 2 from certifying Rabbi via email which has the Rabbi's name as Rav Amadeo Spagnoletto.
Oh, gully!
Hello?!?
Isn't Eli Gauthier talking about his winery and restaurant Cantina Giuliano which is under the hashgacha of a Livorno Rav?
Ruth's is apparently under the hashgacha of local Florence rabbinate.
Ding ding ding!!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 05, 2018, 11:09:40 AM
Ok I have not been following the conversation well. #Guilty

Pro-tip: R' Eidlitz from KosherQuest said I can rely on Chabad of Milan to give me opinions on the other Rabbanim of Italy. Now that you have specific names, why not contact them to ask if these Rabbis are reliable?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 05, 2018, 11:40:56 AM
http://www.ikckosher.com/clients.html
Doesn't list Ruth's...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 05, 2018, 09:51:04 PM
@ckmk47 given your issues finding terra di seta, is it a bad idea to be driving in tuscany at night (id be going from terra di seta to cantina giuliano)

....and never mind. I got my yscheudle confused. I'm likely doing terra di seta at 11 then driving to cantina giuliano for a 5pm tour and cooking class and then leaving next am.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on June 05, 2018, 10:04:59 PM
Definitely get their GPS address. Maybe even actual directions to make sure your GPS  is takng you to the right place.
Don't forget to just enjoy the beauty of the area. 
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Friars500 on June 06, 2018, 06:41:47 AM
We took a bus from Florence to Sienna and then a cab to Terra di Setta. After our tour, we had Terra call us a cab back which took us directly to the old Sienna shul (not so impressive). Once done at the shul, we walked to the main square and did some sight seeing including going up the tower for a spectacular view. We ended with a bus back to Florence.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Suave on June 06, 2018, 10:32:15 AM
In general how is the driving in Florence and Pisa? I understand that you can't really drive in the cities (ZTL) but trying to figure out if better off taking the train to Pisa & renting there, or renting in Florence and driving to Pisa. ( I will need a car after).
We rented a Smart Car in rome for about $30 per day and drove about 1500-2000 km total over 9 days (we rented a convertible fiat500 in florence for the drive across tuscany/terra di seta)

Terra Di Seta google maps location: https://goo.gl/maps/uGq8A77kbpD2 (Agriturismo Le Macie)

It's a 2 hour drive from Florence to Pisa - Keep in mind that parking in Florence is difficult and often pricey, I see that you are aware that there are some parts of Florence that you are not allowed to drive through during the day (ZTL - Limited Traffic Zone (https://www.visitflorence.com/tourist-info/driving-in-florence-ztl-zone.html))

In Summary, I would only suggest renting in Florence if you plan to explore the Tuscan countryside.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 06, 2018, 11:03:24 AM
We rented a Smart Car in rome for about $30 per day and drove about 1500-2000 km total over 9 days (we rented a convertible fiat500 in florence for the drive across tuscany/terra di seta)

Terra Di Seta google maps location: https://goo.gl/maps/uGq8A77kbpD2 (Agriturismo Le Macie)

It's a 2 hour drive from Florence to Pisa - Keep in mind that parking in Florence is difficult and often pricey, I see that you are aware that there are some parts of Florence that you are not allowed to drive through during the day (ZTL - Limited Traffic Zone (https://www.visitflorence.com/tourist-info/driving-in-florence-ztl-zone.html))

In Summary, I would only suggest renting in Florence if you plan to explore the Tuscan countryside.
Why is there another location tagged as Terra di seta? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/0c3f99cb3bd15ad3cd3a5d19e3b2c833.jpg)
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Suave on June 06, 2018, 02:07:48 PM
Why is there another location tagged as Terra di seta? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/0c3f99cb3bd15ad3cd3a5d19e3b2c833.jpg)
They may have corrected the marker already, but when I tried to find the place & failed they told me too look out for the sign to Le Macie

Info@terradiseta.it
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 06, 2018, 02:12:10 PM
They have corrected the marker already, but when I tried to find the place & failed they told me too look out for the sign to Le Macie
So the marker labeled tera de Sita is correct?

Do u know the deal. With food there? Kosher?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Suave on June 06, 2018, 05:22:46 PM
So the marker labeled tera de Sita is correct?

Do u know the deal. With food there? Kosher?
Edited my post above.

Email they sent me when I reserved:
Quote
the tour includes a short walk to see the vineyard, the cellar visit and the kosher products tasting (dairy), usually it needs 1-1, 5 hours.. You could find more info, and costs of the wine tour in our web site.
About the light lunch, it is a Kosher “Caprese” Tomato and Mozzarella with our extra virgin Organic Olive Oil and Tomatoes. It costs 15 Euro each.
To find us you can write on Waze or Google -Terra di Seta- but please notify us if you cannot come. Regards, Maria

The cheese was cholov yisrael, bread was pas palter I think. This was 2 years ago though.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 06, 2018, 11:16:18 PM
Am I crazy to train from Rome to Florence, leaving about 8 feet to Florence 930,tjen grt to car rental place 10 minutes away or so and then grt to Terra di seta for 11 am tour? Is it cutting to close?
Better to go night before and stay in Florence?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on June 07, 2018, 03:27:19 AM
Am I crazy to train from Rome to Florence, leaving about 8 feet to Florence 930,tjen grt to car rental place 10 minutes away or so and then grt to Terra di seta for 11 am tour? Is it cutting to close?
Better to go night before and stay in Florence?
Looks like that's a drive of more than an hour.  Check the map.

Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 07, 2018, 04:31:51 AM
Looks like that's a drive of more than an hour.  Check the map.
Looks like 67 minutes...
I see my op had some nasty auto correct errors.
Wed arrive Florence 930.but still have to get to car rental and kn road within 20 minutes. Seems like thays might be a stretch...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 07, 2018, 09:14:48 AM
Looks like 67 minutes...
I see my op had some nasty auto correct errors.
Wed arrive Florence 930.but still have to get to car rental and kn road within 20 minutes. Seems like thays might be a stretch...
I wouldn't do it. You're going to be in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and know the roads well (despite GPS). I'd allow more time.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 07, 2018, 09:18:23 AM
I wouldn't do it. You're going to be in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and know the roads well (despite GPS). I'd allow more time.
Good point. I'll leave day before and take food to go.

Also, thanks for the microagressive assumption that as an American jew I don't speak Italian!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 07, 2018, 09:26:01 AM
Good point. I'll leave day before and take food to go.

Also, thanks for the microagressive assumption that as an American jew I don't speak Italian!
No worries. I'd be happy to be wrong. In fact my minimal Italian came in quite handy when we got lost in Tuscany when my GPS couldn't get a signal on my phone.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on June 07, 2018, 11:24:41 PM
In the 1950's an Italian Lubavitcher bochur came into NY.  One day, as he got out of the subway, he didn't know which way to go, but he saw a little old lady dressed in black that reminded him of the ladies in Italy.  So he approached her and asked directions in Italian.  After nearly having a heart attack, she answered him similarly.  ;D
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 08, 2018, 01:58:44 PM
Ok I have not been following the conversation well. #Guilty

Pro-tip: R' Eidlitz from KosherQuest said I can rely on Chabad of Milan to give me opinions on the other Rabbanim of Italy. Now that you have specific names, why not contact them to ask if these Rabbis are reliable?
How'you get in touch with chabad? I emailed but got no answer
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: No quitting on June 09, 2018, 06:01:10 PM
Hey
I’m going to Florence for a night and the following day is it worthwhile to rent a car while I’m there to see the sights or can I do many sights by foot taxi etc? Please share your thoughts thanks
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jose34 on June 09, 2018, 06:04:11 PM
Would think just by foot, but see above its been discussed about things that are little outside the city and you might want a car for. If your going for only a day....
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: No quitting on June 09, 2018, 06:07:17 PM
Would think just by foot, but see above its been discussed about things that are little outside the city and you might want a car for. If your going for only a day....
ok thnx
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: No quitting on June 09, 2018, 06:08:00 PM
Also where can I rent a car from around say the historical district?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 09, 2018, 09:56:22 PM
Also where can I rent a car from around say the historical district?
did you try searching kayak, carrentals.com, etc?

https://www.kayak.com/cars/Florence,Tuscany,Italy-c25345/2018-06-10/2018-06-11;map?sort=rank_a
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: No quitting on June 10, 2018, 06:32:32 AM
Has anyone ever tried to park a car by ac hotel Firenze Marriott?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 21, 2018, 01:04:45 PM
Anyone interested in doing this August 2 or 3?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/dansdeals/permalink/10156194565751041/

http://cantinagiuliano.com/en/activities/sailing-along-the-tuscan-coast/
@maylei
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on July 13, 2018, 10:45:06 AM
Any advice on NYC <=> Florence award flight options?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 13, 2018, 10:59:32 AM
Any advice on NYC <=> Florence award flight options?
Go in winter. Lots of availability.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on July 13, 2018, 11:05:14 AM
Go in winter. Lots of availability.
My mother has specific dates in November that she wants
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 13, 2018, 11:48:59 AM
My mother has specific dates in November that she wants
Good luck finding anything with specific dates in mind. You need to be flexible to get awards most of the time.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ludmila on July 13, 2018, 03:24:46 PM
Good luck finding anything with specific dates in mind. You need to be flexible to get awards most of the time.
+1
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on August 03, 2018, 08:15:54 AM
Just wanted to post up the teudah from cantina Giuliano restaurant.
During the week the food is all dairy (reservations are required) and is delicious.
For Shabbat, Eli does take away for people in the area, hence the 2 teudahs.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: maylei on August 03, 2018, 09:21:41 AM
Just wanted to post up the teudah from cantina Giuliano restaurant.
During the week the food is all dairy (reservations are required) and is delicious.
For Shabbat, Eli does take away for people in the area, hence the 2 teudahs.
Thank you
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: noturbizniss on August 03, 2018, 09:56:36 AM
Also, (pic on camera) Terra di seta restaurant is under chief rabbi of Florence.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Geshmak25 on August 27, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
For a JFK>CDG>FLR (and opposite) flight, will the bags automatically be transferred or do they need to be picked up and rechecked?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: lpass on January 13, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
Anyone know if Ruth’s is now reliable to eat at?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 13, 2019, 07:07:34 PM
Anyone know if Ruth’s is now reliable to eat at?
It's not
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: lpass on January 13, 2019, 10:04:57 PM
Thanks for the reply. Any suggestions on what to do for food if flying into FLR and staying overnight?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 13, 2019, 11:26:14 PM
Thanks for the reply. Any suggestions on what to do for food if flying into FLR and staying overnight?
Bring with you.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on April 28, 2019, 09:43:19 PM
Any specific places to rent a car in Florence for a day or 2? Need automatic and prefer close go train station?
No, I have not Google yet...

Where did u end up renting a car from? We are going from Florence to Tuscany and would like to rent an automatic car near the train station.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on April 28, 2019, 09:45:50 PM
Anyone interested in doing this June 16 or 17th?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/dansdeals/permalink/10156194565751041/

http://cantinagiuliano.com/en/activities/sailing-along-the-tuscan-coast/
@maylei
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on May 02, 2019, 10:32:10 AM
Does anyone know the kashrus situation for the gelato place in Florence called Ambrosia?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 02, 2019, 11:44:06 AM
Does anyone know the kashrus situation for the gelato place in Florence called Ambrosia?
That depends on your level of kashrus. Ask your local kashrus authority for someone they trust in Italy and narrow it down from there.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Ploni3 on May 02, 2019, 11:46:54 AM
And ask about Ruth's as well. I received different information when I enquired from locals before - but that could be from a different era.  It seems that these things are always changing...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on May 26, 2019, 09:02:53 AM
And ask about Ruth's as well. I received different information when I enquired from locals before - but that could be from a different era.  It seems that these things are always changing...

Both Ruth’s and Ambrosia are certified kosher by the Chief Rabbi of Florence.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on June 14, 2019, 10:04:49 AM
This is very last minute but I need a hotel in Florence for June 20th, any recommendations?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: gunit770 on June 14, 2019, 05:15:13 PM
Has anybody been to Cantina Giuliano or Terra di Seta, and if yes, can you please comment on the experience?
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: yg99 on June 14, 2019, 07:44:10 PM
This is very last minute but I need a hotel in Florence for June 20th, any recommendations?
Westin or ritz
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on June 16, 2019, 12:24:10 AM

Has anybody been to Cantina Giuliano or Terra di Seta, and if yes, can you please comment on the experience?
Thanks in advance!
I visited Terra Di Seta and enjoyed it.  Hearing the routine used to make wine was interesting and the Mrs, who ran the tour, was great.
Driving there was BEAUTIFUL!  But get good directions there; we got badly lost GPSing to the wrong place.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: nirc on June 16, 2019, 03:34:54 AM
This is very last minute but I need a hotel in Florence for June 20th, any recommendations?

Points or cash?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on June 17, 2019, 03:53:30 PM
Cash
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on June 17, 2019, 07:20:33 PM
Has anybody been to Cantina Giuliano or Terra di Seta, and if yes, can you please comment on the experience?
Thanks in advance!

Yes, we just came from Cantina Giuliano and loved it!
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Moshke on June 19, 2019, 02:01:43 PM
Anyone stayed in a hotel near the Jewish quarter?
Going in July.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 19, 2019, 02:06:27 PM
Florence is a small city, all of the hotels are near the shul.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Moshke on June 19, 2019, 02:55:09 PM
Florence is a small city, all of the hotels are near the shul.

Thanks staying over Shabbos am I better off renting an apartment? If so any recommendations?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on June 20, 2019, 01:20:17 PM
Thanks staying over Shabbos am I better off renting an apartment? If so any recommendations?
I was there as 2 couples, so an Airbnb was cheaper than 2 hotel rooms.  It also gave us a living room to hang out in together, and a diningroom to have our Shabbos meals in.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on July 30, 2019, 10:45:11 PM
Any ideas of what do in Tuscany for three days with access to a car besides for visiting the kosher wineries?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: ckmk47 on July 30, 2019, 11:29:38 PM
Any ideas of what do in Tuscany for three days with access to a car besides for visiting the kosher wineries?
Go north to Pisa?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on July 30, 2019, 11:37:19 PM
Go north to Pisa?

Yea, thought of that but that shouldn’t take very long to see...
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 31, 2019, 01:31:36 AM
Any ideas of what do in Tuscany for three days with access to a car besides for visiting the kosher wineries?
Visit the many Hilltop towns between Rome and Florence. Pienza is my favorite.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: kosherjid on July 31, 2019, 02:43:31 AM
Florence is a small city, all of the hotels are near the shul.

The secret passageway in Palazzo vecchio in Florence:  http://musefirenze.it/en/musei/museo-di-palazzo-vecchio/
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: jmz on August 02, 2019, 01:54:08 AM
Yes, we just came from Cantina Giuliano and loved it!
What's the hechsher there? Did you eat at the restaurant or just went for the wine?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Divora M on August 02, 2019, 10:32:10 AM
We ate at the restaurant.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on December 16, 2019, 03:04:39 PM
I'm looking to to stay ion Florence over shabbat, im debating between the St Regis and The Westin, St. Regis is abt $100 more per night.
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: Naftuli19 on December 16, 2019, 03:05:56 PM
is there any interesting things (beautiful views, kosher food,) to do and a drive from Florence to Monaco, Nice?
Title: Re: Florence Italy master thread
Post by: moisheyb on December 17, 2019, 06:34:03 AM
I'm looking to to stay ion Florence over shabbat, im debating between the St Regis and The Westin, St. Regis is abt $100 more per night.
Def the St regis, it's one of the nicest hotels I've stayed at. Extremely luxurious!