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Title: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: JEWDA on May 24, 2012, 03:45:27 PM
Doubt it. Shame on them http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/protecting_the_unholiest_sinners_W8qOvI7sHTqeBUI0CvgItN#ixzz1voc352YI%23ixzz1voc352YI

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"There exists in this city a group of unparalleled perverts that’s wrapped in Teflon — more resistent to charges of sexual exploitation than John Travolta.
 I’m not talking about Hollywood nimrods or Catholic priests, but a sect not generally associated with serious crime — ultra-Orthodox Jews."


Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 24, 2012, 03:58:24 PM
Sick article. It sounds more like she has an axe to grind with the Orthodox Jewish community in general.

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So mothers — are your babies at risk from men wearing yarmulkes and side curls?

How much more racist and bigoted can one get?
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: mordy44 on May 24, 2012, 04:26:42 PM
Crazy, which actual paper was this in? What are the slander laws in this country?
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: mclovin on May 24, 2012, 04:28:00 PM
Crazy, which actual paper was this in? What are the slander laws in this country?
did u read the title of this thread. sheesh. :P
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: mordy44 on May 24, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
Really, mclovin.  I was asking if this was in a physical paper rather than just an online article
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: HelpMe on May 24, 2012, 04:45:49 PM
This was the same bigoted trash that the Catholic Church was accused of many times. It all turned out to be true. We never want believe something like this can happen in our backyard.

Right out of the Catholic Church’s playbook:
http://forward.com/articles/156692/agudath-israel-abuse-claims-go-to-rabbis/?p=all&utm_source=2012-05-23-AI%20Forward%20Article&utm_campaign=2012-05-23-Forward%20Mandated%20Reporters%20Need%20Permission&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: Side incomer on May 24, 2012, 04:48:08 PM
This was the same bigoted trash that the Catholic Church was accused of many times. It all turned out to be true. We never want believe something like this can happen in our backyard.

Right out of the Catholic Church’s playbook:
http://forward.com/articles/156692/agudath-israel-abuse-claims-go-to-rabbis/?p=all&utm_source=2012-05-23-AI%20Forward%20Article&utm_campaign=2012-05-23-Forward%20Mandated%20Reporters%20Need%20Permission&utm_medium=email
Even if it is true. The way she blames all ultra-orthodox jews, and mixes in holy items like tefilon and payos to poke fun of Jews, is very embarassing for the NY Post.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: JEWDA on May 24, 2012, 04:50:15 PM
Even if it is true. The way she blames all ultra-orthodox jews, and mixes in holy items like tefilon and payos to poke fun of Jews, is very embarassing for the NY Post.
+1 it's an overall hate article.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: HelpMe on May 24, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
Even if it is true. The way she blames all ultra-orthodox jews, and mixes in holy items like tefilon and payos to poke fun of Jews, is very embarassing for the NY Post.
You are correct.

Just so there is no misunderstanding. When it comes to abuse of kids I don’t care what tactics they use to expose that abuse. 
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: Side incomer on May 24, 2012, 04:56:01 PM
And to mention that the self-hating jews like Nochem Rosenberg etc... cause all these articles to come out.
He has taken a mission to publish his allegations in all major newspapers. He accomplished quite a few, including the NY Times, but this is far too extreme.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: Shmelly on May 24, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
Even if it is true. The way she blames all ultra-orthodox jews, and mixes in holy items like tefilon and payos to poke fun of Jews, is very embarassing for the NY Post.
Lol. Teflon, not tefillin.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: Shmelly on May 24, 2012, 05:00:16 PM
Every Andrea Peyzer column is like that. This one happens to hit close to home, but I'm sure every single article she writes is vetted by legal and PR before its released. She's the epitome of trash writer.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: Side incomer on May 24, 2012, 05:02:13 PM
Lol. Teflon, not tefillin.
Lol. Just reread carefully and noticed that, but the comment is still true.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: good sam on May 24, 2012, 05:38:16 PM
Lol. Teflon, not tefillin.
still.  I always  pray in my non-stick teflon
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: sky121 on May 24, 2012, 06:39:52 PM
She obviously hates and is MAD. But I feel like in a way we brought this upon ourselves. To go threaten people who are pressing charges against their attackers is not helping to 'keep things quiet' as well as they hope. Its starting to bring much attention from everyone and seems to be a big chillul Hashem. 


Also even those of us who disagree aren't out their making a big deal about it. The people protesting aren't the religious ones. So its easy for an ignorant outsider to say the religious "peyos" people are like this.

It's sad we gave this lady even an ounce of opportunity and opening to write this.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: HelpMe on May 25, 2012, 01:42:23 AM
She obviously hates and is MAD. But I feel like in a way we brought this upon ourselves. To go threaten people who are pressing charges against their attackers is not helping to 'keep things quiet' as well as they hope. Its starting to bring much attention from everyone and seems to be a big chillul Hashem.
Am I understanding you correctly that is better to “keep things quiet” then to expose what is going on and talk about it in the open?
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: Drago on May 25, 2012, 08:13:55 AM
Unfortunately, if our community cant get our things in order, suffering through these articles may be the best thing for our future. Sometimes it takes public embarrassment to cause real change.

Personally, I'm in favor of public castrations as a way of dissuading future incidents. And I only say this half sarcastically.
Title: Re: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: sky121 on May 25, 2012, 09:04:54 AM
Am I understanding you correctly that is better to “keep things quiet” then to expose what is going on and talk about it in the open?

No. Not at all. I'm saying that to all those people who do believe that,  their actions are specifically backfiring and drawing attention ...negative attention at that. People trying to threaten the victims etc.

I think people should be charged and dealt with accordingly. Not necessarily to shout it from the rooftops but to do all that is necessary that it won't happen again.
Title: Re: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: sky121 on May 25, 2012, 09:05:59 AM
Unfortunately, if our community cant get our things in order, suffering through these articles may be the best thing for our future. Sometimes it takes public embarrassment to cause real change.

Personally, I'm in favor of public castrations as a way of dissuading future incidents. And I only say this half sarcastically.

Yes, at the very least I hope all this attention helps people to be strong,  to do the right thing and to have the courage to speak up.
Title: Re: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: HelpMe on May 25, 2012, 09:49:03 AM
Yes, at the very least I hope all this attention helps people to be strong,  to do the right thing and to have the courage to speak up.
+1
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: good sam on May 25, 2012, 10:32:56 AM
I love the irony of this article.  She complains about the ultra orthodox getting special treatment, but will never acknowledge that the ultra-orthodox always get "special" treatment in the press. Imagine if instead the article had read:

There exists in this city a group of unparalleled pervert - the blacks.

How quickly would she be out on her a**?  The orthodox Jews are always excepted from the rules, and it kills her that in one instance it is in a so-called "favorable" way. 
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: mordy44 on June 03, 2012, 03:12:45 PM
It seems like the nypost is on a mission. There where two articles in today's paper about 2 rabbis who are accused of child molestation. One has been dubbed the "bin laden of pedophiles and is "safely in Israel".
   :'(
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: HelpMe on June 03, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
It seems like the nypost is on a mission. There where two articles in today's paper about 2 rabbis who are accused of child molestation. One has been dubbed the "bin laden of pedophiles and is "safely in Israel".
   :'(
This is only going to get worse.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: Drago on June 03, 2012, 04:51:13 PM
This is only going to get worse.
He ran away in the 80's, so that's not indicative of a problem today. However, there are unfortunately other examples from today.
Title: Re: Will The NY Post Apologize?
Post by: HelpMe on June 03, 2012, 05:15:14 PM
He ran away in the 80's, so that's not indicative of a problem today. However, there are unfortunately other examples from today.
I meant about the NY Post. Once then get on a subject like this they just won't let go. As far as Mondrowitz goes it is pretty sad the way he was protect.