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DansDeals Forum => Deals/Deal Requests => Topic started by: ygold90 on July 05, 2012, 09:55:42 PM
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2012 infinit g37x with navigation only $299. 18 month lease!!!!!!!!!!!!!
unheard of!
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Crappy advertisement considering you didn't mention where :P
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not advertisement i dont work for leasing company
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Who's offering this deal?
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diamond leasing
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call moshe at 9174743091
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How much money down?
How much due at signing?
What packages are included?
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How much money down?
How much due at signing?
What packages are included?
He doesn't work for them, how would he know ;D
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He doesn't work for them, how would he know ;D
LOL
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My brother in law does leasing and told me he has this deal for $289 incl. tax with no money down. 18 month lease with 10k a year
Shloime 845-641-1000
(mods- I don't get a cut.. but if this counts as advertising feel free to delete my post)
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Mods, please leave his post! Very Intriguing
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My brother in law does leasing and told me he has this deal for $289 incl. tax with no money down. 18 month lease with 10k a year
Shloime 845-641-1000
(mods- I don't get a cut.. but if this counts as advertising feel free to delete my post)
I always find it interesting that when someone posts a deal from a Jewish (frum) owned business, everyone starts shouting "advertisement", but if the same deal was posted about "achmeds leasing" or "Billy bobs" leasing then it is applauded as a "great deal" and "good find"
Maybe some jealousy that another Jew may be making some money while others on ddf are working hours running to shop rite and office supply stores just to make a measly $500 a month off gift cards and point selling?
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This 289 deal, the car is new? Is there a restocking fee?
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I always find it interesting that when someone posts a deal from a Jewish (frum) owned business, everyone starts shouting "advertisement", but if the same deal was posted about "achmeds leasing" or "Billy bobs" leasing then it is applauded as a "great deal" and "good find"
Don't get racial here, When this was first posted the OP didnt even mention who had the deal
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Don't get racial here, When this was first posted the OP didnt even mention who had the deal
Not sure if you remember, but elizmm was one of those guys advertising his business on ddf. . . .
(@elizmm, I didn't blast you - or post - in your thread, bec I couldn't care less. I'm just mentioning it here so smurf can understand why you have such a bitter attitude about this free advertising practice )
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Not sure if you remember, but elizmm was one of those guys advertising his business on ddf. . . .
(@elizmm, I didn't blast you - or post - in your thread, bec I couldn't care less. I'm just mentioning it here so smurf can understand why you have such a bitter attitude about this free advertising practice )
I never advertised a business of mine on this site. Jewda decided that I owned a seforim store, I was flattered but unfortuantly I don't have my own buzz yet. Dont worry when I do start a business I will make sure to post it here as "great deal from a goyish company" and I will get high fived
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What's bothering me is that in the sforim deal post, people assumed it was my deal because it's a Jewish deal and all Jewish deals are ads, which brings me back to my original rant above.
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I never advertised a business of mine on this site. Jewda decided that I owned a seforim store, I was flattered but unfortuantly I don't have my own buzz yet. Dont worry when I do start a business I will make sure to post it here as "great deal from a goyish company" and I will get high fived
Lol. Like I said, personally I really don't care don't care if people do this. The only reason I would blast someone for doing it is bec I feel bad for any n00b that would get fooled.
Obviously no one here can know 100% that you work for/don't work for, own/don't own a Judaica store, but from your posts it seemed like you had some sort of agenda.
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Lol. Like I said, personally I really don't care don't care if people do this. The only reason I would blast someone for doing it is bec I feel bad for any n00b that would get fooled.
Obviously no one here can know 100% that you work for/don't work for, own/don't own a Judaica store, but from your posts it seemed like you had some sort of agenda.
there are ddf'rs who known me personally and know that I am in no way related to the judaica store, I happen to enjoy collecting seforim and liked the deals I found on their site.
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Maybe some jealousy that another Jew may be making some money while others on ddf are working hours running to shop rite and office supply stores just to make a measly $500 a month off gift cards and point selling?
Poor them..
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there are ddf'rs who known me personally and know that I am in no way related to the judaica store, I happen to enjoy collecting seforim and liked the deals I found on their site.
Great. Excellent. I'm glad I didn't bash you in that thread. (Or did I? I can't remember. . )
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Maybe some jealousy that another Jew may be making some money while others on ddf are working hours running to shop rite and office supply stores just to make a measly extra $500 $xxxx.xx a month off gift cards and point selling?
FTFY
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FTFY
Probably $9999.99/month, no? ;)
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Just confirmed with someone at wheels to lease (I am a long time customer). g37x with nav and including tax 255!!!. 18 months 10k a year
If anyone wants the number of my guy there please PM me
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or 289 a month 10k fully loaded including nav sunroof bluetooth etc just first month bank fee plates due at signing or even get it rolled in to your payments
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Does seem like a good deal :-\
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I've used diamond before. Very happy with them
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Does seem like a good deal
+1 I think it sounds good, if you're willing to pay the extra $1-2k/year for the privilege of driving an Infinity :P On the upside, you're done the lease in 18 months and you can get a new one then, though I doubt the prices will be as hot in January as they are in July.
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You can always extend your lease for 6 months.
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+1 I think it sounds good, if you're willing to pay the extra $1-2k/year for the privilege of driving an Infinity :P On the upside, you're done the lease in 18 months and you can get a new one then, though I doubt the prices will be as hot in January as they are in July.
Extra 1-2k for driving an Infiniti? Meaning?
Some Maximas are >$400/mo.
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How can this car be so cheap, even the maxima costs more!
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Some Maximas are >$400/mo.
I meant compared to the cheapest option for a non-luxury sedan, not the most expensive option, obviously ::)
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Extra 1-2k for driving an Infiniti? Meaning?
Some Maximas are >$400/mo.
But a Maxima is a full size car, the G37 a compact.
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I meant compared to the cheapest option for a non-luxury sedan, not the most expensive option, obviously ::)
Drive an infiniti compared to a kia and then come back to me.
But a Maxima is a full size car, the G37 a compact.
Not that much of a difference - I've had both.
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Drive an infiniti compared to a kia and then come back to me.
Not that much of a difference - I've had both.
agreed. you can fit a kid back there Dan :)
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Drive an infiniti compared to a kia and then come back to me.
Who said anything about Kia, Civics and Altimas can be had for much cheaper. Granted they don't drive like Infinitis, but they're decent cars.
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G37 trunk is very snug, much smaller than my Altima's, an UppaBaby would take up the whole thing :P. And the backseat is definitely smaller as well.
Believe me I had a taiveh for the G37, just couldn't justify paying 35K vs 20K for a more compact car when the Altima blew me away when I test-drove it.
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Who said anything about Kia
I meant compared to the cheapest option for a non-luxury sedan
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You can get an accord for$169 plus tax. And no disposition fee or damage waiver [add $30/month to factor those in)
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Stop being so obnoxiously pedantic ::) My point stands, you can get an Altima for $1-2k less/year, which is the better choice for people who don't care to drive an Infiniti.
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Believe me I had a taiveh for the G37, just couldn't justify paying 35K vs 20K for a more compact car when the Altima blew me away when I test-drove it.
The Altima may have blew you away but not as compared to the G -- the G is simply a better drive (worth 15k better? perhaps to some people).
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My point stands, you can get an Altima for $1-2k less/year, which is the better choice for people who don't care to drive an Infiniti.
Please show me where you can get a fully-loaded Altima (nav, BT, sunroof, etc) for $123-206/mo.
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Please show me where you can get a fully-loaded Altima (nav, BT, sunroof, etc) for $123-206/mo.
People who choose the Altima option might not care for those, Altima and G37 aren't quite apples to apples, yet some people (even those who can afford an Infiniti) choose the cheaper option and use the price differentials for things that rank higher on their priorities list.
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Please show me where you can get a fully-loaded Altima (nav, BT, sunroof, etc) for $123-206/mo.
+1.. id be interested... :)
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Please show me where you can get a fully-loaded Altima (nav, BT, sunroof, etc) for $123-206/mo.
My Brother in law - Shloime 845-641-1000 has the base altima for $145, sunroof and bluetooth for $179, and Leather for $199 incl. tax 12K a year 24 months.
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People who choose the Altima option might not care for those, Altima and G37 aren't quite apples to apples, yet some people (even those who can afford an Infiniti) choose the cheaper option and use the price differentials for things that rank higher on their priorities list.
Wow, you wiggle like a slimy fish (and I mean that in the most cordial way).
1) I said Maxima is $400+ as compared to a fully loaded G37 ($289)
2) You said I should be comparing to cheapest non-luxury.
3) I suggested the drive in a Kia cannot compare.
4) You said "who said anything about Kia?"
5) I said "you said cheapest non-luxury."
6) You said, you can get Altima for 1-2k/yr less (which, to be fair, must be compared to the fully-loaded G as above)
7) I said please show me where you can get a fully-loaded Altima for $123-206.
8 ) What do you say?
a) People may not want a fully-loaded car. People may also like rainbows more than elves, but neither has anything to do with the context of this convo. Be intellectually honest.
b) G37 and Altima aren't an apples to apples comparison. Ya think? Did you forget how Altima got into this convo?
::)
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My Brother in law - Shloime 845-641-1000 has the base altima for $145, sunroof and bluetooth for $179, and Leather for $199 incl. tax 12K a year 24 months.
Nav? Backup cam?
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yes both inclued in the 289
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call moshe yifat from diamond leasing 9174743091 i myself have an accord se and they took care of everything.
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if anyone is interested in taking over my honda accord se lease payments are 225 a month 12k miles a year 21 months left?? let me know if interested?
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The Altima may have blew you away but not as compared to the G -- the G is simply a better drive (worth 15k better? perhaps to some people).
Agreed, but the fit and finish of the leather Altima is so similar to its G37 cousin (right down the the great ignition key) that paying 15K for a better drive and a smaller backseat/trunk is pretty hard to swallow.
The Maxima's relative is the M37 AFAIK.
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update 299 for 12k miles fully loaded
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My Brother in law - Shloime 845-641-1000 has the base altima for $145, sunroof and bluetooth for $179, and Leather for $199 incl. tax 12K a year 24 months.
does he have the infiniti too? and what leasing company
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update 299 for 12k miles fully loaded
That includes tax?
No money down again aside from plates/registration/bank fee (which I hate)?
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Wow, you wiggle like a slimy fish (and I mean that in the most cordial way).
It's all a matter of perspective.
My perspective from the beginning was (and still is) that some people don't care for the privilege of driving an Infinity (my first post in this thread), and can get a decent set of wheels for significantly less. There's no need to cite the extreme end of the spectrum (Kia and Maxima), where there are mid-range cars that are decent and cost less.
The context of this convo was whether this is a good deal, and my answer (which is still valid) is that if you don't care for whatever it is that comes with this deal (Infinity brand, better drive, nav, bluetooth etc. etc.) then save your money and by something else.
If you still don't understand, then I can't help you.
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That includes tax?
No money down again aside from plates/registration/bank fee (which I hate)?
I know a dealership that has fully loaded including tax for 255. PM me for info
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That includes tax?
No money down again aside from plates/registration/bank fee (which I hate)?
including tax and just bank fee plates first month
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Remember your breaking up the bank fee ect into 18 months instead of 36-39 so that adds a but to the cost
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And don't forget about disposition fee and damage waiver, readily add $35/month
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And don't forget about disposition fee and damage waiver, readily add $35/month
I've never had to pay a disposition fee. Who charges them?
Also, Nissan/Infiniti will waive up to $500 IIRC off damages if you lease/buy another Nissan/Infiniti.
Remember your breaking up the bank fee ect into 18 months instead of 36-39 so that adds a but to the cost
True, but I've gotten it waived a couple times in the past.
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True, but I've gotten it waived a couple times in the past.
how can you get that waived?
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a buddy of mine sent me an email with 3 offers
149 incl tax for the altima 2.5S , 24 months 12k miles
269 incl. tax for the infiniti g37x awd premium package, 18 months 10k miles
315 incl tax for the infiniti g37 coupe awd, 24 months 10k miles
not sure if that helps anybody, but feel free to contact him
Abie @
718-355-9191
718-355-9420
I dont get anything, just helping out a friend and all you guys.
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315 incl tax for the infiniti g37 coupe awd, 24 months 10k miles
not bad
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how can you get that waived?
By asking nicely :P
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By asking nicely :P
so what the bank will just give up his fee
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so what the bank will just give up his fee
...or the dealer pays it.
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G37 trunk is very snug, much smaller than my Altima's, an UppaBaby would take up the whole thing :P. And the backseat is definitely smaller as well.
Believe me I had a taiveh for the G37, just couldn't justify paying 35K vs 20K for a more compact car when the Altima blew me away when I test-drove it.
G37 is a great ride. But space, it doesn't have. Even the front seats are a little cramped.
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Here is a video that shows you the pros and cons of the g37
http://cnettv.cnet.com/2012-infiniti-g37-sedan/9742-1_53-50112684.html
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I saw same offer for loaded g37 for $269 including tax
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I saw same offer for loaded g37 for $229 including tax
g37x?
Where?
Fully loaded? Nav/bluetooth/sunroof etc?
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If correct please post or pm contact info
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If correct please post or pm contact info
instead, he edited his post.
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HELP!!!! can anyone get me out of my maxima?
a year left, way under mileage. :(
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instead, he edited his post.
still good deal.
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Why are everyone offering these deals now?
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Why are everyone offering these deals now?
maybe the '13s are coming out?
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Why are everyone offering these deals now?
everyone is an interesting way to put it. if the car is cheap from the manufacturer then it will be cheap by everyone. "everyone" doesnt control the prices. the mfg does, then "everyone" follows the same protocol. i think.
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HELP!!!! can anyone get me out of my maxima?
a year left, way under mileage. :(
http://swapalease.com/
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http://swapalease.com/
Anybody have experience with offleaseonly.com ?
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I just dealt with swapalease - they were amazing and really easy to deal with!
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From DD FB page, looks like Infiniti's are dropping in price by the day...
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I just dealt with swapalease - they were amazing and really easy to deal with!
Can you give me more details on how it went down?
How long did it take and what was the process?
I have 1 year left on my Rav4, and only used 15K miles (21K miles still avail to use) that I would consider getting rid of. I pay $225 incl tax
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Can you give me more details on how it went down?
How long did it take and what was the process?
I have 1 year left on my Rav4, and only used 15K miles (21K miles still avail to use) that I would consider getting rid of. I pay $225 incl tax
I was actually buying out the car (not assuming the lease). The whole process was really fast. They overnight buyer and seller the paperwork, with a free UPS overnighting return envelope. It took just a few days for paperwork to go back and forth. They are located in Ohio, so they overnighted me temp Ohio plates and then I'll go to the DMV to switch the registration to NJ.
I got the initial paperwork Thurs morn, sent it back Thurs afternoon, he got it friday, and sent my Title and Tag Friday - it was at my door by 10:00 Monday morning.
The agent that I dealt with was always available when I needed to talk to him and explained the whole process really well and answered all of my questions.
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From DD FB page, looks like Infiniti's are dropping in price by the day...
from the comments it seems like people are screaming at each other
Scary
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seems the dealers have a lot of room they are just giving it up little by little
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http://www.comfortautoleasing.com/infiniti-g37x/360, 239$
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http://www.comfortautoleasing.com/infiniti-g37x/360, 239$
It seems it the G37 sans X.
The 255 guy wants 700 in bank fees. Anybody know what the others want?
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It seems it the G37 sans X.
The 255 guy wants 700 in bank fees. Anybody know what the others want?
Their home page says "2012 Infiniti G37 AWD Premium Only $239 per month!"
That's the G37x.
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You're not missing much; the fact is these cars have probably already depreciated because the '13s are coming out. Lower monthly depreciation means lower monthly payments, all else being equal.
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Are these people associated with Fly With comfort?
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You're not missing much; the fact is these cars have probably already depreciated because the '13s are coming out. Lower monthly depreciation means lower monthly payments, all else being equal.
Right, so buying outright would also be cheaper.
But even buying at $30K, in 18 months, with 10K miles on it, whats it worth?
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From DD FB page:
CALL DIAMOND I WILL MACH ENY PRICE!!!! UR SPEAKING TO THE GUY WHO DOSE IT NOT PPL THAT R REFFURING PPL 718342-6663
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From DD FB page:
CALL DIAMOND I WILL MACH ENY PRICE!!!! UR SPEAKING TO THE GUY WHO DOSE IT NOT PPL THAT R REFFURING PPL 718342-6663
Love the spelling! ;)
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Love the spelling! ;)
and fb has spell check
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and fb has spell check
Not for Yinglish...
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Love the spelling! ;)
the guy is a macher. not a langue teacher
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From DD FB page:
CALL DIAMOND I WILL MACH ENY PRICE!!!! UR SPEAKING TO THE GUY WHO DOSE IT NOT PPL THAT R REFFURING PPL 718342-6663
Let him know JJ1000 is offering the g37x for $199 per month fully loaded after tax and no fees. ;)
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Let him know JJ1000 is offering the g37x for $199 per month fully loaded after tax and no fees. ;)
ALOL!
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ALOL!
+1
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Did anybody every heard of comfort auto leasing, They have the G37 for $239 including taxes?
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ALOL!
I don't get it. Did anybody every heard of comfort auto leasing, They have the G37 for $239 including taxes?
Are they related to fly with comfort?
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I don't get it.
Let's see him match that!
I don't get it. Are they related to fly with comfort?
I very highly doubt it. The "Comfort" is coincidental
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Duh
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So I am guessing they are not that truth worthy and honest?
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So I am guessing they are not that truth worthy and honest?
Comfort? Why do u think so?
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So I am guessing they are not that truth worthy and honest?
Why would you guess that?
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Sorry I though that, I thought smurf and PlatinumGuy was making fun of them, Here is the website;
http://www.comfortautoleasing.com/infiniti-g37x/360
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I wasn't making fun at all,
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I wasn't making fun at all,
I guessed that and that is why I said sorry!
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is comfort with nav? ( pic shows nav)
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the really cheap lease prices probably include a loyalty credit for current infiniti owners (only). Just saying be wary of someone who is much cheaper than all the other places.
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the really cheap lease prices probably include a loyalty credit for current infiniti owners (only). Just saying be wary of someone who is much cheaper than all the other places.
Yeah like jj1000
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Yeah like jj1000
I grantee my rate is NSA!
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the really cheap lease prices probably include a loyalty credit for current infiniti owners (only). Just saying be wary of someone who is much cheaper than all the other places.
+1
Also many times the advertised cheap rate is only for customers with top tier credit.
It usually says that in the fine print but most people don't read that and once they go down to actually lease the car they find out that it'll cost them an extra $xx(x?) a month.
By that time, it just takes a bit of sales talk and the person ends up leasing the car (at the higher rate).
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Well most people here have top tier credit I hope.... ;D
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If you have top top tier credit here, you're doing something wrong.
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WheelsToLease have it for $229. ($239 with NAV) including taxes. DAS $650 bank fee, dmv & 1st month. 10K annual mile.
NO- I don't work for them!
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Whoever is willing to sell me 12k for $200, I'll pay all upfront w/o bank fees please pm.
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If you have top top tier credit here, you're doing something wrong.
Even with all your applications you should try to keep it above 750
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WheelsToLease have it for $229. ($239 with NAV) including taxes. DAS $650 bank fee, dmv & 1st month. 10K annual mile.
NO- I don't work for them!
they dropped in price?
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If you have top top tier credit here, you're doing something wrong.
Whats that supposed to mean?
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Whats that supposed to mean?
It means you aren't opening and closing cards often enough. Although I think his classification of top tier is a bit off, he'd have to mean relatively close to 850...
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they dropped in price?
thats not with tax included, see their email or website.
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Wow, seems like quite a competitive leasing market in NYC area. Dan or anyone know of any leasing companies like this around Cleveland? I doubt regular Infiniti dealers will get that low.
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Wow, seems like quite a competitive leasing market in NYC area. Dan or anyone know of any leasing companies like this around Cleveland? I doubt regular Infiniti dealers will get that low.
Ask them to match it, but otherwise just fly to NYC for 4.5K Avios and have a fun ride back in your shiny new G37x!
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Poor valet parking guy at Ateres Avraham!
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WheelsToLease have it for $229. ($239 with NAV) including taxes. DAS $650 bank fee, dmv & 1st month. 10K annual mile.
NO- I don't work for them!
its not including tax
with tax is $299
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Wheels to lease is 255 w tax guy mentioned earlier.
I'm sure some members here would love to drive your car to CLE for you... It would eat up a lot of the 10k though.
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It would eat up a lot of the 10k though.
Not more than 450.
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Not more than 450.
That's 5%
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Wheels to lease is 255 w tax guy mentioned earlier.
Guess they give diff prices to diff people
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Guess they give diff prices to diff people
Im sure they dont, one price probably includes tax (255) and one doesnt (229). They have a great rep and their is a reason I am recommending them. And As I am sure Dan can see from my ISP I do not work for them.
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I was hoping 229 was a result of all the competition...
Otherwise it seems comfort is the way to go
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Please forgive my bump, the thread is cluttered.
Whoever is willing to sell me 12k for $200, I'll pay all upfront w/o bank fees, please pm.
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Wheels to lease price also is only if you have Nissan loyalty program (you have a Nissan now). Otherwise its an extra $50-60 a month.
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Got the Accord SE for $199 27 M/O a week before the G37x was announced for $239. I'm never going to live this down :(
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Swapalease.com
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Got the Accord SE for $199 27 M/O a week before the G37x was announced for $239. I'm never going to live this down :(
Did you try asking if they'll let you swap it out? There's no cancellation-period on leases?
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I would but they've already gone back up to $255
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It means you aren't opening and closing cards often enough.
+1
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Got the Accord SE for $199 27 M/O a week before the G37x was announced for $239. I'm never going to live this down :(
Just know that you saved alot more $ on the Honda than the numbers show.
I imagine you got 12k miles/yr instead of 10k.
Honda gives you a $1500 damage allowance at lease end (for any excessive wear/tear). Not Infiniti.
Honda has no disposition fee at lease end. Infiniti charges several hundred dollars.
The G37 sucks a ton more gas than that 4 banger Accord.
Of course the Infiniti is in a different class of power and luxury than the Accord, but just saying - don't feel bad on price, you still got a good deal :-)
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Just know that you saved alot more $ on the Honda than the numbers show.
I imagine you got 12k miles/yr instead of 10k.
Honda gives you a $1500 damage allowance at lease end (for any excessive wear/tear). Not Infiniti.
Honda has no disposition fee at lease end. Infiniti charges several hundred dollars.
The G37 sucks a ton more gas than that 4 banger Accord.
Of course the Infiniti is in a different class of power and luxury than the Accord, but just saying - don't feel bad on price, you still got a good deal :-)
I know. It just might be the last time I can afford it...
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Infiniti charges several hundred dollars.
Really? Not, IME.
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Really? Not, IME.
This particular lease offer has one IIRC
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This particular lease offer has one IIRC
"This?"
There has been like 19 different offers on here and on FB.
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"This?"
There has been like 19 different offers on here and on FB.
They are all the same one offer from infiniti finance, its just the dealers playing around with the little details
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They are all the same one offer from infiniti finance, its just the dealers playing around with the little details
...and those same dealers can eat the disposition fee.
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Really? Not, IME.
Yeah I leased with Nissan/Infiniti several years ago, and they didn't use to have [the disposition fee], but I understand they added it in the last 2-3 years (I think it is $395). I believe it is waived if you are leasing another Infiniti or perhaps other circumstances.
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...and those same dealers can eat the disposition fee.
but would they
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but would they
Someone has to pay it - if it wasn't there then they would eat $395 off the price of the car instead to meet their profit margin, so in effect you may still be paying for it.
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Yeah I leased with Nissan/Infiniti several years ago, and they didn't use to have [the disposition fee], but I understand they added it in the last 2-3 years (I think it is $395). I believe it is waived if you are leasing another Infiniti or perhaps other circumstances.
Interesting... I've leased with them within the last two years, and not disposition fee.
but would they
For you? Maybe not. For me? Yep.
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For you? Maybe not. For me? Yep.
Lol
if you know a dealer who is willing to make less money/no money at all on you that is really not relevant to the fact that there is a disposition fee on this lease (:
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Lol
if you know a dealer who is willing to make less money/no money at all on you that is really not relevant to the fact that there is a disposition fee on this lease (:
Uhm, it's extremely relevant. Just because you may not be as persuasive as I can be, does not make it irrelevant; it makes you disadvantaged.
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Interesting... I've leased with them within the last two years, and not disposition fee.
Originated in the last 2 years? Yeah then I guess you got out of it, nice - btw infinitiusa.com says it applies to lease contracts that originated after Jan 6, 2009.
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Originated in the last 2 years? Yeah then I guess you got out of it, nice - btw infinitiusa.com says it applies to lease contracts that originated after Jan 6, 2009.
Hmmm... Actually I think it was originated Jan 2010 (or thereabouts).
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Uhm, it's extremely relevant. Just because you may not be as persuasive as I can be, does not make it irrelevant; it makes you disadvantaged.
Smart words, which don't change the fact there is a disposition fee on this lease which you may manage to avoid if you are as slick as AJK
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They are all the same one offer from infiniti finance
Can u elaborate?
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Can u elaborate?
Infinity offers the same deal to all of the leasing agencies. The variation in prices is each company competing against the other to earn your business and the cheaper ones are willing to make less money on the deal to get you to sign, and the more expensive ones figure it's not worth it for them to make so little on the transaction.
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I figured the idea, my question is what the details are. It seems only the frum dealers have this. Does Infinit have their own dealership in the US?
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I figured the idea, my question is what the details are. It seems only the frum dealers have this. Does Infinit have their own dealership in the US?
There are Infinity dealers out there (http://www.infinitiusaretailers.com/infinitiretailers/locate/index?city=new+york&state=NY&dcp=ppi.52041037.&dcc=0.228135989), but they seem to think it's not worth their time to deal with a customer and make so little $$, so they charge more....
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I figured the idea, my question is what the details are. It seems only the frum dealers have this. Does Infinit have their own dealership in the US?
This is the infiniti original offer
http://www.infinitiusa.com/current-offers/?vehicle=g_sedan
idk if these guys are Jewish or not but seems similar
http://www.kingsinfiniti.com/specials/index.htm
The idea is the 2014 redesigned model is coming out in mid/late 2013 so they want to get rid of these, while making sure they guys who buy now will have the option of buying the 2014 model beginning of 2014
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This whole discussion has the mistaken assumption that leasing is a good deal.... ;)
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Smart words, which don't change the fact there is a disposition fee on this lease which you may manage to avoid if you are as slick as AJK
Leases are only such after they've been executed. Before that, they are merely words on paper. If my LEASE contains no provision for a disposition fee, "this lease" has no disposition fee, just like the MSRP given by the manufacturer is not the price you pay (or maybe for you it is?).
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Leases are only such after they've been executed. Before that, they are merely words on paper. If my LEASE contains no provision for a disposition fee, "this lease" has no disposition fee, just like the MSRP given by the manufacturer is not the price you pay (or maybe for you it is?).
Term corrected
"Lease Offer"
Are you happy?
please tell me, its very important to me, i wont sleep at night if you are not happy
:P
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This whole discussion has the mistaken assumption that leasing is a good deal.... ;)
These deals get my attention though - a car with exceptionally high residual value being discounted thousands off MSRP = very little depreciation in between = recipe for a great lease deal. Whether you lease or buy your big cost is paying for depreciation, unless you plan to keep the car forever.
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This whole discussion has the mistaken assumption that leasing is a good deal.... ;)
Can you explain how its not?
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One approach is that a car does a disproportionate amount of depreciation during its first 2-3 years.
It's a compelling argument and not one I can see being addressed.
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This whole discussion has the mistaken assumption that leasing is a good deal.... ;)
Assuming a new car lasts for 10 years, the comparable cost of this lease is 255*120= $28,600. Assuming you can get a new car for 35,000 (fully loaded) & sell it for 5,00 after 10 years, it's still cheaper. And that's before factoring in the financing element, & that u have a new car every 18 months.
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This is the infiniti original offer
http://www.infinitiusa.com/current-offers/?vehicle=g_sedan
idk if these guys are Jewish or not but seems similar
http://www.kingsinfiniti.com/specials/index.htm
The idea is the 2014 redesigned model is coming out in mid/late 2013 so they want to get rid of these, while making sure they guys who buy now will have the option of buying the 2014 model beginning of 2014
Very interesting. Thank you.
So the dealers are getting it for $150 less than Infinity will lease it to me?
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Can you explain how its not?
It's pretty universally accepted that leasing isn't a financially wise move. It's main advantages are getting a late model car and updating it every 2 years, and not having to deal with maintenance issues.
It's obvious disadvantages without going into a full blown financial analysis is that you are paying money and not building any equity. If you pay $300 a month for 18 months, + $1,500 at signing, you've spent practically $7,000 for 1 1/2 years. Go get a new car for another 18 months etc, you've paid $14K for 3 years. $35K after 8 years. And at the end of all that you own nothing!
If however you buy a Brand new car for $35K, you are not limited on mileage use, and after 8 years you own the car which now has say 80K miles (to be comparable to leased), it's KBB is approx $12,000 (http://www.kbb.com/infiniti/g/2004-infiniti-g/g35-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=347216&intent=buy-used&mileage=80000&condition=good&pricetype=private-party).
Leasing -After 8 years spent $35K - left with nothing.
Buying - After 8 years spent $35K, left with a car worth $12K.
Of course it's fun to have a new car every 18 months, but know that it costs you $1,500 extra a year (12K/8 years).
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It's pretty universally accepted that leasing isn't a financially wise move. It's main advantages are getting a late model car and updating it every 2 years, and not having to deal with maintenance issues.
It's obvious disadvantages without going into a full blown financial analysis is that you are paying money and not building any equity. If you pay $300 a month for 18 months, + $1,500 at signing, you've spent practically $7,000 for 1 1/2 years. Go get a new car for another 18 months etc, you've paid $14K for 3 years. $35K after 8 years. And at the end of all that you own nothing!
If however you buy a Brand new car for $35K, you are not limited on mileage use, and after 8 years you own the car which now has say 80K miles (to be comparable to leased), it's KBB is approx $12,000 (http://www.kbb.com/infiniti/g/2004-infiniti-g/g35-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=347216&intent=buy-used&mileage=80000&condition=good&pricetype=private-party).
Leasing -After 8 years spent $35K - left with nothing.
Buying - After 8 years spent $35K, left with a car worth $12K.
Of course it's fun to have a new car every 18 months, but know that it costs you $1,500 extra a year (12K/8 years).
Nice summary
Although i think most people will continue to lease cars ::)
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Assuming a new car lasts for 10 years, the comparable cost of this lease is 255*120= $28,600. Assuming you can get a new car for 35,000 (fully loaded) & sell it for 5,00 after 10 years, it's still cheaper. And that's before factoring in the financing element, & that u have a new car every 18 months.
Don't forget to consider how much additional maintenance and repairs you potentially spend on a car for another 6-7 years outside of warranty. You likely hit some more costly maintenance intervals whereas a lease is pretty much just oil changes. Now I agree I think you still come out ahead in your scenario but you assume some risk that you may not.
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I happen to believe in buying and not leasing, but I always find it funny when people make these comparisons and then use inflated numbers on one side of the equasion. People are not paying $300/month, they are paying $229.
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I happen to believe in buying and not leasing, but I always find it funny when people make these comparisons and then use inflated numbers on one side of the equasion. People are not paying $300/month, they are paying $229.
Also, bank fee + dmv is not $1500... they're mayyybe $1000 (and even that's high). Also, MarkS' calculation count the initial payment twice.
So instead of $7,000 for 18 months, you're more realistically looking at $5100.
That said, the point is basically the same, just not as jarring.
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Can't the bank fee be waived by paying all upfront? Then its 239*18, which makes $4302+ DMV.
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Can't the bank fee be waived by paying all upfront? Then its 239*18, which makes $4302+ DMV.
AFAIK, bank fee and paying up front are unrelated.
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However, I believe insurance is cheaper if you own
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Don't forget to consider how much additional maintenance and repairs you potentially spend on a car for another 6-7 years outside of warranty. You likely hit some more costly maintenance intervals whereas a lease is pretty much just oil changes. Now I agree I think you still come out ahead in your scenario but you assume some risk that you may not.
My Hyundai Sonata that I bought used has a 5 year 60K Bumper to bumper warranty. Bought new there's a 10 yr 100K warranty! Plus, the way cars are built these days, there's not much maintenance in the first 8 years anyway.I happen to believe in buying and not leasing, but I always find it funny when people make these comparisons and then use inflated numbers on one side of the equasion. People are not paying $300/month, they are paying $229.
Even if they aren't a current Infinity owner? And after tax? A lot of these numbers thrown around here in the low $200's aren't the final numbers.
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AFAIK, bank fee and paying up front are unrelated.
If you pay upfront, what is the bank doing?
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My Hyundai Sonata that I bought used has a 5 year 60K Bumper to bumper warranty. Bought new there's a 10 yr 100K warranty! Plus, the way cars are built these days, there's not much maintenance in the first 8 years anyway.Even if they aren't a current Infinty owner? And after tax? A lot of these numbers thrown around here in the low $200's aren't the final numbers.
Yeah, but your 35k number is also pre tax, no?
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However, I believe insurance is cheaper if you own
Never heard that before, nor does it seem to make sense.
Link?
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If you pay upfront, what is the bank doing?
Leasing you the car...
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What part of it is the bank doing? Buying the car and waiting 18 months to get the rest of the cost back?
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What part of it is the bank doing? Buying the car and waiting 18 months to get the rest of the cost back?
Right.
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Never heard that before, nor does it seem to make sense.
Never heard of that either, but maybe what he's referring to is that with a leased car you're required to have collision insurance, as opposed to a car that you own.
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Never heard that before, nor does it seem to make sense.
Link?
No link right now but there are certain insurance minimums that are necessary for a lease
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Even so, that doesn't make the actual insurance cheaper. It just means you aren't required to have certain add-ons.
A person leasing who needed/wanted A-B-C from an insurer would pay X, just like a person who bought who wanted/needed A-B-C from an insurer would also pay X.
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Even so, that doesn't make the actual insurance cheaper. It just means you aren't required to have certain add-ons.
A person leasing who needed/wanted A-B-C from an insurer would pay X, just like a person who bought who wanted/needed A-B-C from an insurer would also pay X.
Yes I understand that. I was just suggesting what he possibly meant.
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Never heard of that either, but maybe what he's referring to is that with a leased car you're required to have collision insurance, as opposed to a car that you own.
Probably what he meant. Although if you own an expensive new car you probably want collision as well
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Nope, didn't mean that at all, just what the insurance agent told me
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Probably what he meant. Although if you own an expensive new car you probably want collision as well
Yup. I thought Ajk was gonna post that as soon as I posted my "suggestion" .
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Nope, didn't mean that at all, just what the insurance agent told me
Be interested to hear if that's true and, if so, the underlying rationale.
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My Hyundai Sonata that I bought used has a 5 year 60K Bumper to bumper warranty. Bought new there's a 10 yr 100K warranty! Plus, the way cars are built these days, there's not much maintenance in the first 8 years anyway.Even if they aren't a current Infinity owner? And after tax? A lot of these numbers thrown around here in the low $200's aren't the final numbers.
Well, although that is a 100k *powertrain* only warranty, right? Most things that go wrong are not with the powertrain. And any car will need new tires, brake pads, air/cabin filters, etc. one or more times in that long of a period. With all that said I am playing devil's advocate a bit just to make sure we look at all the factors - I think what you did with your Sonata is financially still going to win out almost every time (over leasing a new Sonata every couple years). But I wouldn't perhaps want to keep a German car for that long.
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Well, although that is a 100k *powertrain* only warranty, right? Most things that go wrong are not with the powertrain. And any car will need new tires, brake pads, air/cabin filters, etc. one or more times in that long of a period. With all that said I am playing devil's advocate a bit just to make sure we look at all the factors - I think what you did with your Sonata is financially still going to win out almost every time. But I wouldn't perhaps want to keep a German car for that long.
It's Korean
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It's Korean
I know, I meant your argument to buy and hold may not work nearly as well with say a German car like Audi or BMW, because of the significantly higher costs to repair and the lower reliability.
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Yeah, but your 35k number is also pre tax, no?
There's a lot more negotiating room when buying a car than with leasing.
You can definitely get a G37x for less than that with tax.
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MarkS, thanks for the breakdown.
It seems everyone is comparing either getting a new car every 18 months or keeping it for 8 years. Id think most would fall in between, no?
And I think Dan is right, it can be had for cheaper (~$32-$33K). But the lease is also not $300/month.
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MarkS, thanks for the breakdown.
It seems everyone is comparing either getting a new car every 18 months or keeping it for 8 years. Id think most would fall in between, no?
I just did that to add the lease up to 35K. If you buy a new car every 3 years, leasing is a better idea than buying. (Because at this point, both buying and leasing are expensive).
Assuming you plan to drive the car 5 years or longer, buying is cheaper.
Think of buying a house vs renting. Everyone in the world will tell you that if you can afford a down-payment and plan to stay in one house for a bunch of years, buying is much better because you build equity. With a car it's not as drastic because cars depreciate, but at least you have some sort of equity in the car.
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I just did that to add the lease up to 35K. If you buy a new car every 3 years, leasing is a better idea than buying. (Because at this point, both buying and leasing are expensive).
Assuming you plan to drive the car 5 years or longer, buying is cheaper.
Can you extend a lease?
Say you lease for 5 years @ $250/month with only $1500 down at the beginning thats $16500.
Buying at $33K and selling 5 years old @ $15,316 (http://www.kbb.com/infiniti/g/2007-infiniti-g/g35x-sedan-4d/?vehicleid=83892&intent=buy-used&category=sedan&pricetype=private-party&quizconditions=2%7c0%7c0%7c1%7c0%7c1%7c0%7c1%7c1%7c1%7c0%7c1%7c2%7c0%7c0%7c1) means you paid $17,684.
And that's presuming you pay in full or get 0% financing.
Plus there's the hassle of buying/selling.
Im not fighting that leasing is cheaper, just that with leasing so cheap, it looks very good.
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If you buy a new car every 3 years, leasing is a better idea than buying.
Even worse than you might think because of sales tax. (In most states) you get taxed on the lease payment, not the price of the car. Take this Infiniti for example, you buy it for $35k x 7% sales tax you pay $2450 in tax. You lease it @ $250/month and you pay only $1000 in tax after 3 years. You saved $1450 in tax.
buying is much better because you build equity.
Is there really an 'equity' advantage here? I can buy this car with say a $500 car payment and have some equity after a few years. Or I can lease for $250/month and put the other $250 in the bank every month and have 'equity' at the end of the lease too. In terms of paying the cost of depreciation does it really matter?
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Is there really an 'equity' advantage here? I can buy this car with say a $500 car payment and have some equity after a few years. Or I can lease for $250/month and put the other $250 in the bank every month and have 'equity' at the end of the lease too. In terms of paying the cost of depreciation does it really matter?
When you buy a car, you are paying to own it. When you lease, you are paying for someone else to own it, plus you are helping them make money by charging you interest.
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When you buy a car, you are paying to own it. When you lease, you are paying for someone else to own it, plus you are helping them make money by charging you interest.
Exactly. Thats why I dont get how it can be cheaper to lease?
But the numbers seem very close. Even from 5 years. Unless Im missing something.
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When you buy a car, you are paying to own it. When you lease, you are paying for someone else to own it, plus you are helping them make money by charging you interest.
I don't see it the same way as you are sinking money into a depreciating asset. You pay a cost to 'use' it based on what you paid minus what you eventually sell it for. Not alot unlike a lease.
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Exactly. Thats why I dont get how it can be cheaper to lease?
But the numbers seem very close. Even from 5 years. Unless Im missing something.
I don't see it the same way as you are sinking money into a depreciating asset. You pay a cost to 'use' it based on what you paid minus what you eventually sell it for. Not alot unlike a lease.
When you drive a new car off the lot it instantly loses around 11% of it's value. After that it loses like 10% each year. Therefore, if you buy a new car often, you are taking that big depreciation hit too many times. In addition, as was mentioned earlier, when you buy it you pay around 7% tax on the entire price of the car.
If however you keep it for a long time, you can better absorb the depreciation and tax because you are not just buying and reselling -you are using it for a bunch of years. How much it's officially depreciating doesn't bother you because you are getting use out of it. In an extreme case where you keep it over 10 years (Gasp!) you really save a lot. People are still driving 2002's and many are in great condition with plenty of value left on them. The longer you keep it, the more you save on the buy vs. lease calculations.
Another alternative is buy the car used - and let someone else absorb the 'driving off the lot depreciation'!
Right now used cars happen to be very expensive which is why for the first time ever people are saying that it may be a better deal to buy new over used.
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But the numbers seem very close. Even from 5 years. Unless Im missing something.
I really don't think you are missing anything. A lease on a good deal can be very attractive. A lot of the comparisons use very high numbers for the leasing which, if you know how to find a good deal, is just inaccurate.
The reason leasing can sometimes be so cheap is because a lot of the knew cars are being built very well that they keep a lot of their value after 3 years. That's especially true with the accord which is why it's such a great lease value
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Never heard that before, nor does it seem to make sense.
Link?
its only cheaper if you own, because the requirements for insurance amounts is up to you, you can opt for higher deductibles/less coverage which will bring your ins cost down, . with a lease/finance however, the bank requires minimums. so he is in essence correct.
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with a lease/finance however, the bank requires minimums. so he is in essence correct.
What kind of minimums? Something the average car owner would have anyway?
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What kind of minimums? Something the average car owner would have anyway?
for instance the 100/300k injury i believe.
dan , you provoking me to get to 100? lol
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There's a lot more negotiating room when buying a car than with leasing.
Anyone worth his salt will never reveal the fact that he intends to lease until he's already settled on the price of the car.
its only cheaper if you own, because the requirements for insurance amounts is up to you, you can opt for higher deductibles/less coverage which will bring your ins cost down, . with a lease/finance however, the bank requires minimums. so he is in essence correct.
Seems like you missed a few posts...
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Yeah Mark, I think we agree on more than you think. I have leased in the past but I actually own a 2007 Altima I bought used on ebay in Jan 2009 for $12k (back when the entire car market / economy was in the dumps), and based on what I think I could sell it for now I have effectively 'leased' it for about $85/month for 12k/yr. I got lucky I've had no problems outside of warranty and I do my own maintenance so that hasn't really been a factor. I imagine you will have made a similarly wise choice with the Sonata. But if I wanted to get back into a new car I think leasing can be the way to go if the right deal/situation comes along. I like the cash flow benefits and the defined cost that eliminates some 'risk' with keeping the car outside of warranty and hassle of selling it on your own. But odds are you will come out ahead when you buy and keep a car for a long time.
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Seems like everyone more or less agrees.
Short term, lease. Long term, buy.
Its the area in between which looks a little gray.
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Short term, lease. Long term, buy.
Its the area in between which looks a little gray.
As usual! The car model you pick is probably a bigger factor in your cost to own than whether you buy or lease it. Cars with better reliability and less expensive maintenance/repair costs have better residual and thus are cheap to own and cheap to lease. Add in heavy discounts off MSRP due to new models coming out soon (as is the case now for these high residual car models like the G37, Accord, Altima, etc) and it is an even better opportunity to get a great car that is cheap to either lease or buy...
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Anyone know what is the minimum insurance required for the lease of the G37X
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Anyone know what is the minimum insurance required for the lease of the G37X
Most leases require 100/300. But it's in the leasing documents IIRC.
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Most leases require 100/300. But it's in the leasing documents IIRC.
Thanks,
is there anyone who leased this model that can tell me for sure, and will i need to get Comprehensive and Collision? and is there a max deductible requirement?
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Thanks,
is there anyone who leased this model that can tell me for sure, and will i need to get Comprehensive and Collision? and is there a max deductible requirement?
They don't care about deductible amount.
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Thanks,
is there anyone who leased this model that can tell me for sure, and will i need to get Comprehensive and Collision? and is there a max deductible requirement?
Confirmed (by a friend who just showed me a copy of his insurance policy with the minimums selected)
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I am test driving the g37x for a week- will let y'all know how I feel.......
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I am test driving the g37x for a week- will let y'all know how I feel.......
Nobody's gonna say that it's not a fun sporty ride.
Just a question of sacrificing space and paying more for said ride.
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I am test driving the g37x for a week- will let y'all know how I feel.......
...for a week? From a dealer?
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I am test driving the g37x for a week- will let y'all know how I feel.......
His car can't be used as a sample...
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Nobody's gonna say that it's not a fun sporty ride.
Just a question of sacrificing space and paying more for said ride.
Yeah that has deterred me - family road trips and that little G trunk is pitiful compared to our Altima - I'd probably need an M37. I like the new Altima 2.5 coming out (you have an Altima too right Dan?) They've reworked that CVT to be so efficient, 0-60 in low 7 seconds (rivals some V6s) and an amazing 38 mpg got my attention.
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Nobody's gonna say that it's not a fun sporty ride.
Just a question of sacrificing space and paying more for said ride.
Yup, took it for a spin (thanks National)and find it pretty cramped. Not exactly the feel I want for an everyday drive. And thats not even talking bout the trunk space.
But boy does it drive :)
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Yup- just after an hour or so, I came to the same conclusion- very small-
I also have the altima and yes it is much spacier
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Yup- just after an hour or so, I came to the same conclusion- very small-
I also have the altima and yes it is much spacier
so you wouldnt get it bec of the space issue?
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so you wouldnt get it bec of the space issue?
i would not get it for other reasons, i am a kollel guy, and not super comfortable driving such a car (as being mine) around.
besides that yes- the car is much smaller and with 2 kids and a wife, to go away for a weekend a doubt the trunk will support the luggage.
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besides that yes- the car is much smaller and with 2 kids and a wife, to go away for a weekend a doubt the trunk will support the luggage.
it wont. i have a maxima which a bigger trunk, and all i get into it is a bugaboo and suitcase
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thats why i bring an umbrella stroller bec the bugaboo is huge and doesnt fold nicely
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Anyone find out the cheapest rate? For fully loaded what are the rates?
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$285
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$285
Are you referring to the updated price that came out this week(infiniti changed the pricing, but grandfathered apps that were in last fri)? Also, is that with premium package, and with taxes, title, and bank fee in the lease?
FYI- The leasing agent whom I spoke with said that dealerships aren't releasing the stock and that he had to stop taking orders for now because he doesn't want to have to cancel them in case he can't get hold of the cars. It's easy to quote a price, and claim that they have the cars, but not sure many leasing companies can get a hold of them, but I'm not an expert, as there seems to be much more knowledgable people in this forum on the topic.
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Anyone know if this is still available anywhere?
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Anyone know if this is still available anywhere?
long gone