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Title: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on July 09, 2012, 03:26:40 PM
To sign up:

Consumer: http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Starwood5/

Business: http://www.dansdeals.com/go/StarwoodBusiness5/

Has anyone heard anything about the 30k deal coming back? Or should I just apply for the 25k?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on July 09, 2012, 03:28:13 PM
Has anyone heard anything about the 30k deal coming back? Or should I just apply for the 25k?



I'd wait a bit to apply but if it comes back anytime soon you can always try to get matched.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2012, 03:33:40 PM
if it comes back anytime soon you can always try to get matched.
-1.

I'd hold off on SPG apps for the next few weeks in hopes of a return of the 30K summer promo we've seen the last 2 years.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Lamdan on July 09, 2012, 03:43:07 PM


I'd wait a bit to apply but if it comes back anytime soon you can always try to get matched.
When was the last time Amex matched !?!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on July 09, 2012, 03:45:04 PM
Rumor has it that it will return in the second half of July
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on July 09, 2012, 03:56:08 PM
When was the last time Amex matched !?!


My mother got matched from a 15,000 to a 20,000 recently but maybe that was a fluke.

 Guess I was wrong.

Anyways..what month did the 30,000 come out last year?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on July 09, 2012, 03:56:47 PM

My mother got matched from a 15,000 to a 20,000 recently but maybe that was a fluke.

 Guess I was wrong.

Anyways..what month did the 30,000 come out last year?
July
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 09, 2012, 04:13:52 PM
-1.

I'd hold off on SPG apps for the next few weeks in hopes of a return of the 30K summer promo we've seen the last 2 years.

So wait until at least July 16th to see if it comes back?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2012, 04:16:28 PM
I'd hold off on SPG apps for the next few weeks in hopes of a return of the 30K summer promo we've seen the last 2 years.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2012, 04:41:24 PM
All of this bated breath for an extra 5k.
Imagine if they ever had a 50k bonus...
sigh
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2012, 04:43:25 PM
All of this bated breath for an extra 5k.
Imagine if they ever had a 50k bonus...
sigh
They don't have to as 30K SPG is worth more than say a 50K BA bonus.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 09, 2012, 05:09:46 PM
How awful would it be if they dropped the bonus to 15k instead of raising it
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2012, 05:26:38 PM
They don't have to as 30K SPG is worth more than say a 50K BA bonus.
But not as good as the 2 free hyatts
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2012, 05:27:30 PM
But not as good as the 2 free hyatts
But the SPG card is great for spending so they don't have to offer such a sweet signup bonus (similar to Freedom).
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 09, 2012, 07:15:12 PM
Does anyone remember if the 30k SPG deal was spend 5k in 3 months or was it spend 5k in 6 months?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 21, 2012, 11:26:05 AM
Do people churn the SPG? Or is it too difficult so they just sign up for it once and then keep the card open ever year
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on July 21, 2012, 10:32:43 PM
Do people churn the SPG? Or is it too easy so they just sign up for it once every few months.
FTFY
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 21, 2012, 11:33:19 PM
FTFY

I know you can churn part of the bonus, but I thought the other part of the bonus was once per person? Sort of like the Southwest Card and its bonus
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: john on July 26, 2012, 07:14:05 AM
Shall we continue to wait for 30k offer?
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: BAHayman on July 26, 2012, 07:54:19 AM
Shall we continue to wait for 30k offer?
+1, any news?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on July 26, 2012, 07:56:29 AM
+1, any news?
If there was, it would be all over the internet by now
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 26, 2012, 09:35:19 AM
Glad I didn't wait and went for the 25k, doesn't look like 30k is coming back
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on July 26, 2012, 09:35:54 AM
Glad I didn't wait and went for the 25k, doesn't look like 30k is coming back

Maybe....maybe not..
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on July 26, 2012, 03:45:09 PM
Here's betting it returns
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on July 26, 2012, 04:00:05 PM
Here's betting it returns
+2
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: KidOOO on July 26, 2012, 05:22:14 PM
can i get the bonus on the consumer one if i just got the business?
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on July 26, 2012, 05:22:29 PM
can i get the bonus on the consumer one if i just got the business?

Yup.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 26, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
Here's betting it returns

I'll take the bet sir.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on July 26, 2012, 05:52:46 PM
I'll take the bet sir.

It's on.
Remind me what we're betting for...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: KidOOO on July 26, 2012, 06:16:34 PM

Remind me what we're betting for...

Bragging rights?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on July 26, 2012, 06:20:53 PM
 ::
+2
Hoping for the same...
Now which Personal Amex's do I go for on the 3bm ::)??? I never had PRG or Plat cards... could prob also use a delta card....
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: zale on July 26, 2012, 10:09:07 PM
::Hoping for the same...
Now which Personal Amex's do I go for on the 3bm ::)??? I never had PRG or Plat cards... could prob also use a delta card....

If we are all about hope, well then, I'm hoping that it comes back with a whopping sign up bonus. Like 100k. Wouldn't that be nice?

This whole thread is dedicated to hoping for a card with 5k more SPG points than the existing one. C'mon, up the ante!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 26, 2012, 10:35:10 PM
::Hoping for the same...
Now which Personal Amex's do I go for on the 3bm ::)??? I never had PRG or Plat cards... could prob also use a delta card....

If I were you I'd do MB Plat/Plat/SPG
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on July 26, 2012, 10:52:53 PM
If I were you I'd do MB Plat/Plat/SPG
And you would do it now before the 30K comes back ;)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on July 26, 2012, 11:52:01 PM
If I were you I'd do MB Plat/Plat/SPG
Why is that? I haven't done enough research on all the offers/churning opportunities on the plat cards I'm afraid...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on July 27, 2012, 12:07:29 AM
Why is that? I haven't done enough research on all the offers/churning opportunities on the plat cards I'm afraid...

100k MR + $400 in free money via airline credit

then 25k or 30k Starwood points
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Q274 on July 27, 2012, 07:40:41 AM
Why is that? I haven't done enough research on all the offers/churning opportunities on the plat cards I'm afraid...
are you asking bec you have a diff option? or you just want to know why he said those 3?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2012, 11:42:57 AM
Why is that? I haven't done enough research on all the offers/churning opportunities on the plat cards I'm afraid...
If the annual fee scares you for whatever reason there's always SPG+PRG+Delta, all with waived fees.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 01, 2012, 04:23:26 PM
If the annual fee scares you for whatever reason there's always SPG+PRG+Delta, all with waived fees.
Annual fee doesn't scare me... actually just fairly new to the churn game (loving it btw :)  ) and need to do the research on Plat cards (how long to wait between signups, to close or can I move over lines, where I can hit spending thresholds, as AP isn't suggested with Amex etc.)
I'm more familiar with Chase and just need to learn Amex best I can...
Anyhow thanks for all the suggestions... I'm waiting to see if 30k fee comes out, then I figure once I do the 2bm (only one Business Amex currently after FR few years back where I shut down 4 Amexs and therefore have my doubts about even getting approved for 2bm) I'll learn on the go :)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Hudi on August 06, 2012, 08:14:17 AM
It's coming back tomorrow.

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2012/08/06/starwood-american-express-30000-point-sign-up-bonus-to-return-tomorrow/
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 06, 2012, 09:10:06 AM
It's coming back tomorrow.

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2012/08/06/starwood-american-express-30000-point-sign-up-bonus-to-return-tomorrow/
Glad I didn't wait and went for the 25k, doesn't look like 30k is coming back
I'll take the bet sir.
HAHA!!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 11:06:15 AM
NIce.... so which is the best Amex offer to couple with it? Regular Plat?

I don't have any Amex personals, and just one SPG Business so I even have my doubts of getting 2 cards approved...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: RJ898 on August 06, 2012, 06:11:57 PM
I'm applying for 4 (me and my wife) tomorrow. 120k (plus 100k that I already have) I think my hotel's in Israel are looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2012, 06:36:43 PM
Will have links tomorrow, should be fun :)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
Will have links tomorrow, should be fun :)
+1...
If I currently hold the SPG Business you think I can apply again for Business card again?? I would rather not close it as it's my only current Amex and I don't want  to lose the warranties I have bundled on it....
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yeshivaman on August 06, 2012, 06:54:11 PM
Last time I reapplied for SPG Amex, I didn't get the bonus. What's the surest way to make sure I do this time?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2012, 06:58:21 PM
Last time I reapplied for SPG Amex, I didn't get the bonus. What's the surest way to make sure I do this time?
Leave the SPG# blank.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 07:02:47 PM
Leave the SPG# blank.
Even if I'm currently holding a SPG Bus card I can do this?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: KidOOO on August 06, 2012, 07:05:46 PM
If i just applied for 2 personal cards 2 weeks ago can i apply for the SPG now or will it count as duplicate?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yeshivaman on August 06, 2012, 07:08:27 PM
Leave the SPG# blank.
Thanks! Hope it works this time!!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on August 06, 2012, 07:34:45 PM
Any SPG Biz 30k links?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2012, 08:29:55 PM
Any SPG Biz 30k links?
Tomorrow :)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on August 06, 2012, 08:33:15 PM
Tomorrow :)

TY :)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on August 06, 2012, 09:34:01 PM
Since I applied for the 25k SPG less than a month ago, can I request a match since it's a public offer?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on August 06, 2012, 09:36:01 PM
Since I applied for the 25k SPG less than a month ago, can I request a match since it's a public offer?

Amex and matching is dead AFAIK, but maybe that's just for MR cards and with SPG you might get lucky. Give it a shot, what have ya got to lose?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Walk On the Ocean on August 06, 2012, 09:42:43 PM
Tomorrow :)
YAY!
Any idea how long this promo will last for?
Also, if I have a personal now would I be a fool for trying to get ANOTHER one? i guess i'll go for the business one but do u guys think i should leave out my SPG #? (I would assume not since it is a diff product)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Walk On the Ocean on August 06, 2012, 09:43:23 PM
Leave the SPG# blank.
What if they automatically link your account? wouldn't it be safer to open a new account for the bonus and then merge them later?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on August 06, 2012, 09:51:58 PM
What if they automatically link your account? wouldn't it be safer to open a new account for the bonus and then merge them later?

Why don't you just trust the expert :P
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Walk On the Ocean on August 06, 2012, 09:56:02 PM
Why don't you just trust the expert :P
heh
I'm just trying to figure out the chochma of this game. if you leave the United # blank you risk them automatically linking your account, so I assumed that it can happen with SPG # too
but i sure do trust Dan!!!  8)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on August 06, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
heh
I'm just trying to figure out the chochma of this game. if you leave the United # blank you risk them automatically linking your account, so I assumed that it can happen with SPG # too
but i sure do trust Dan!!!  8)

Part of the chochma is that it isn't one size fits all and while something works one way in one situation it might work differently in another situation.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 09:59:35 PM
30k sounds good but is the best other offer out there to 2bm this guy with currently the PRG of Plat 25k offers??
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on August 06, 2012, 10:00:56 PM
30k sounds good but is the best other offer out there to 2bm this guy with currently the PRG of Plat 25k offers??

You can totally 3bm this with other Amex cards.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 10:09:04 PM
You can totally 3bm this with other Amex cards.
No current Personal Amexs and just one Business one... worried I won't have a shot at 3bm. That why I'm gonna 2bm this time... IYH I will get to 3bm with amex someday!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on August 06, 2012, 10:12:37 PM
No current Personal Amexs and just one Business one... worried I won't have a shot at 3bm. That why I'm gonna 2bm this time... IYH I will get to 3bm with amex someday!

You have nothing to lose IMHO, play the recon/reallocation game if necessary.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 10:24:51 PM
You have nothing to lose IMHO, play the recon/reallocation game if necessary.
Only thing is I don't want to jeopardize my getting approved for the 30k spg... If I can have just one that's what I want. I really wish I was more familiar with the recon/reallocation game (Amex edition :)  ) but due to my having been F/R before I'm def an amateur in the Amex dept....
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: 100CountryGoal on August 06, 2012, 10:48:28 PM
I have about a 760 credit score (no negatives other than credit pulls, etc.). . . 10+ year card history. I have only applied for about 1 card every few months until I applied for 5 cards during the past two months. I've only ever owned two Amex cards, both opened in early 2011 and closed early this year. I think Amex will pull Experian where I live, and I have three Experian pulls in the past month and, like I said, a total of 5 new cards in the past two months. Income multiple 6 figures, very little credit utilization. Am I likely to be approved for the Amex SPG?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 10:51:09 PM
I have about a 760 credit score (no negatives other than credit pulls, etc.). . . 10+ year card history. I have only applied for about 1 card every few months until I applied for 5 cards during the past two months. I've only ever owned two Amex cards, both opened in early 2011 and closed early this year. I think Amex will pull Experian where I live, and I have three Experian pulls in the past month and, like I said, a total of 5 new cards in the past two months. Income multiple 6 figures, very little credit utilization. Am I likely to be approved for the Amex SPG?
Were the 5 cards all separate apps?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: 100CountryGoal on August 06, 2012, 11:00:00 PM
Were the 5 cards all separate apps?

Unfortunately, yes, but only 3 were on Experian, which is what Amex is likely to pull in my state. So hopefully Amex will only see 3. . .
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 11:09:48 PM
Unfortunately, yes, but only 3 were on Experian, which is what Amex is likely to pull in my state. So hopefully Amex will only see 3. . .
Try to freeze Experian
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on August 06, 2012, 11:10:44 PM
Don't try to freeze EX. AmEx will just insist you open it (if that's what they pull).
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 11:12:25 PM
Don't try to freeze EX. AmEx will just insist you open it (if that's what they pull).
Try to freeze Experian
Sorry for my bad advice. I didn't realize Amex wouldn't let that slide. Thanks for the correction AJK!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: 100CountryGoal on August 06, 2012, 11:16:27 PM
So it sounds like the 3 pulls are much more of a problem than 5 new accounts?  (Experian shows all the new accounts already). . .
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 06, 2012, 11:26:40 PM
So it sounds like the 3 pulls are much more of a problem than 5 new accounts?  (Experian shows all the new accounts already). . .
Yes Amex will care about how many pulls and how many AMEX accounts you have more then you overall accounts...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yaakov s on August 06, 2012, 11:43:57 PM
Will have links tomorrow, should be fun :)
couldn't come at a better time. There will be thousands of people checking out DD tom. to see if they missed any good deals!! :)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: SGF on August 06, 2012, 11:49:01 PM
YAY!
Any idea how long this promo will last for?
Also, if I have a personal now would I be a fool for trying to get ANOTHER one? i guess i'll go for the business one but do u guys think i should leave out my SPG #? (I would assume not since it is a diff product)
they (http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2012/08/06/starwood-american-express-30000-point-sign-up-bonus-to-return-tomorrow/) claim it will last till september 4
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2012, 11:53:54 PM
My info is 09/03.
YMMV.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Yeki89 on August 07, 2012, 12:29:49 AM
just in time, after this article

 forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18787.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: zale on August 07, 2012, 12:30:05 AM
couldn't come at a better time. There will be thousands of people checking out DD tom. to see if they missed any good deals!! :)

This is exactly 5,000 points over the year-round offer, not sure what everyone is getting all worked up about. If it was 50k I could understand, but 5k? C'mon!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Yeki89 on August 07, 2012, 12:32:08 AM
This is exactly 5,000 points over the year-round offer, not sure what everyone is getting all worked up about. If it was 50k I could understand, but 5k? C'mon!
a mile earned, is a mile saved!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on August 07, 2012, 12:37:44 AM
Going to have my girlfriend app for the 30k, and try and get Amex to match the 30k for me. Here's hoping to 70k Starwood points after meeting spend
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: txtmax4 on August 07, 2012, 12:53:36 AM
heh
I'm just trying to figure out the chochma of this game. if you leave the United # blank you risk them automatically linking your account, so I assumed that it can happen with SPG # too
but i sure do trust Dan!!!  8)
Part of the chochma is that it isn't one size fits all and while something works one way in one situation it might work differently in another situation.
For the record I just hear from someone that left their # blank with SPG and got the bonus in their old account..
It looks like Amex linked them to the account and still granted them the bonus. Personal and business.
YMMV
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Deal Guy on August 07, 2012, 01:05:29 AM
It seems to me that amex may have changed their policy. In the past it was written that once you got the bonus you can no longer get it, but if you look closely at the applications these days, they write that you may not get the bonus if you applied in the 'last year'. I t does not say anything if you had the card 2 years ago ect..
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: elizmm on August 07, 2012, 01:35:21 AM
The 30k spg bizz app is live (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/starwoodbusiness/)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: HelpMe on August 07, 2012, 01:39:38 AM
This is exactly 5,000 points over the year-round offer, not sure what everyone is getting all worked up about. If it was 50k I could understand, but 5k? C'mon!
Do you know what some around here would do for an extra 5k points?  :)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2012, 01:42:58 AM
This is exactly 5,000 points over the year-round offer, not sure what everyone is getting all worked up about. If it was 50k I could understand, but 5k? C'mon!
5K is more than enough for 3 nights (nearly 5 nights for plats) with C&P at the Sheraton CLE with $200 rates...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yosele on August 07, 2012, 08:30:47 AM
I tried applying online and on both offers the site showed that it is no longer available.

I called personal at 877 621 2639 and got approved!!!!

I called business at 888 830 4934 and waiting for approval......
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: BAHayman on August 07, 2012, 09:49:57 AM
30K Consumer is up.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ChasingTheDime on August 07, 2012, 09:54:18 AM
anyone having issues with the 30k business card ?
i tells me the offer is no longer available
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: gswannabe on August 07, 2012, 10:09:44 AM
same here
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: RJ898 on August 07, 2012, 10:17:17 AM
Has anyone ever tried a 2/3BM with 2 SPG biz cards?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yeshivaman on August 07, 2012, 10:17:52 AM
anyone having issues with the 30k business card ?
i tells me the offer is no longer available
same here
ג"א מצטרף להנ"ל
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on August 07, 2012, 10:30:50 AM
I asked to be matched since I applied less than 30 days ago and they told me to get bent.

Oh well!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Wheelerdealer on August 07, 2012, 10:43:43 AM
its interesting that you can have multiple starwood cards open at the same time without having to move credit lines to close them out
are there any other CC out there that let you keep multiple cards open??
am i understanding this correctly? or did I miss something
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Walk On the Ocean on August 07, 2012, 10:44:22 AM
I asked to be matched since I applied less than 30 days ago and they told me to get bent.

Oh well!
You called for courtesy points and they didn't award you any?
For the past few months I have been calling to get courtesy points. I usually recieve between 1-3k
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: mas on August 07, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
When applying for multiple Amex SPG, should I include my SPG # on the application or leave it blank... and then call Amex once approved to update it with my SPG # ?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on August 07, 2012, 10:54:50 AM
You called for courtesy points and they didn't award you any?
For the past few months I have been calling to get courtesy points. I usually recieve between 1-3k

Is asking to be matched to a better offer considered courtesy points? I'm not sure
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: asks on August 07, 2012, 10:58:29 AM
Is asking to be matched to a better offer considered courtesy points? I'm not sure

Try both SM and phone for the 5k match, only if these options fail, try for the lower amount of courtesy points.  I am also waiting on SM response to same request, opened new SPG cards last month, trying for match.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ADanFan on August 07, 2012, 11:04:59 AM
Thinking that 2 Ink Bolds ( 75,000 - 100,000 pts.) may be better than 2 SPGs (60,000) today?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: meshugener on August 07, 2012, 11:07:17 AM
Depends on what you wanna do with the points.
But as you read Dan's nice post on the main site today, you might want to reconsider.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: RJ898 on August 07, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
Seriously, has anyone ever tried doing 2 SPG biz cards at the same time?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yeshivaman on August 07, 2012, 11:42:15 AM
None are working for me
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: peace123 on August 07, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
2bm on SPG personal & biz results in 2 hard pulls?

or better do 2 SPG personal with 2bm for single pull?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on August 07, 2012, 01:40:50 PM
Try both SM and phone for the 5k match, only if these options fail, try for the lower amount of courtesy points.  I am also waiting on SM response to same request, opened new SPG cards last month, trying for match.

Let me know how it turns out for you.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 07, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
2bm the SPG consumer and Plat! Both pending... wish me luck!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: peace123 on August 07, 2012, 05:32:34 PM
looks look  you dont get approval for both spg personal and biz with 2bm
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 07, 2012, 05:35:17 PM
looks look  you dont get approval for both spg personal and biz with 2bm
Often defeats the purpose of 2bm if your doing business and personal apps
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yeshivaman on August 07, 2012, 06:23:38 PM
what are the chances of a pending app being approved?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on August 07, 2012, 06:25:47 PM
what are the chances of a pending app being approved?
'


50-50?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2012, 06:27:09 PM
what are the chances of a pending app being approved?
78.63%
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yeshivaman on August 07, 2012, 06:27:39 PM
78.63%
LOL. ok, you got me!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 07, 2012, 07:26:31 PM
78.63%
Wait it's a Tuesday, that number drops to 77.95%
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yeshivaman on August 07, 2012, 08:26:12 PM
Wait it's a Tuesday, that number drops to 77.95%
Weather permitting...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: peace123 on August 07, 2012, 08:51:12 PM
Often defeats the purpose of 2bm if your doing business and personal apps
so  denial on spg personal and biz with 2bm?

I recently cancelled my amex PRG & amex gold biz card, 10 months after getting it so, what other amex cards with decent bonus and valuable points i should apply with the SPG personal app using 2bm?

thanks
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: BAHayman on August 07, 2012, 08:52:12 PM
so  denial on spg personal and biz with 2bm?

I recently cancelled my amex PRG & amex gold biz card, 10 months after getting it so, what other amex cards with decent bonus and valuable points i should apply with the SPG personal app using 2bm?

thanks
+1, any other decent AMEX bonuses atm? I've currently only got the Zync...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: peace123 on August 07, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
+1, any other decent AMEX bonuses atm? I've currently only got the Zync...
what other amex personals cards are out there to go with the spg personal with 2bm?

i cancelled my amex prg & amex gold biz so i wont get these again.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 07, 2012, 09:27:20 PM
what other amex personals cards are out there to go with the spg personal with 2bm?

i cancelled my amex prg & amex gold biz so i wont get these again.
I did it coupled w/ the Platinum card
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: peace123 on August 07, 2012, 09:32:19 PM
I did it coupled w/ the Platinum card
but that has $450 annual fee not waived right with only 25k bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on August 07, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
I did it coupled w/ the Platinum card

+1, go for the SPG+AmEx MB+perhaps a gold to extend your ability to xfer points out for a year (if you can and don't plan on keeping plat).
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
Why can't you get PRG again?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on August 07, 2012, 09:40:10 PM
Why can't you get PRG again?

Who said he can't? I interpreted his "won't" to mean he doesn't want to make any waves, but perhaps I gave him too much credit?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ANONYMOUS on August 07, 2012, 09:44:10 PM
Can you get more then ONE SPG personal & business??

& if yes, how many CC are the limit??


Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 07, 2012, 09:50:14 PM
Can you get more then ONE SPG personal & business??

& if yes, how many CC are the limit??


Thanks in advance!
yes. no limit.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: 100CountryGoal on August 07, 2012, 09:50:51 PM
Yes Amex will care about how many pulls and how many AMEX accounts you have more then you overall accounts...

Thanks, you were correct. . . instant approval!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 07, 2012, 09:53:10 PM
Thanks, you were correct. . . instant approval!
:)
I'm still waiting on mine...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ANONYMOUS on August 07, 2012, 09:53:39 PM
yes. no limit.

So Why wouldn't I get like 10 of each (personal & business)??

I guess what I'm asking is it illegal according to Amex?? If Amex catches on, will they get me into trouble, such as shut down all my cards, or a fine??

Thanks a lot!

 
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on August 07, 2012, 09:54:30 PM
So Why wouldn't I get like 10 of each (personal & business)??

I guess what I'm asking is it illegal according to Amex?? If Amex catches on, will they get me into trouble, such as shut down all my cards, or a fine??

Thanks a lot!

They simply won't approve you for more at some point.

And, yes, you might subject yourself to a F/R. No fine.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on August 08, 2012, 09:24:40 AM
What about the new T&C language, can't get the bonus for this product more than once every 12 months. That might stop it too.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2012, 11:57:17 AM
What about the new T&C language, can't get the bonus for this product more than once every 12 months. That might stop it too.
You must have mentioned this a dozen times on DDF and at least a dozen people have responded that they have gotten cards since that language was put in without any problems.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 08, 2012, 11:58:27 AM
You must have mentioned this a dozen times on DDF and at least a dozen people have responded that they have gotten cards since that language was put in without any problems.
+10000
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ChasingTheDime on August 08, 2012, 12:12:47 PM
yes. no limit.

i did not know this

am i applying with all the exact same info as the first time i applied ?

and if i leave my starwoods number blank, do i get a 2nd account, or they link them up ?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: dovymonsey on August 08, 2012, 12:41:33 PM
It sates on spg.com that the offer will end September  4 2012
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 08, 2012, 12:45:31 PM
i did not know this

am i applying with all the exact same info as the first time i applied ?

and if i leave my starwoods number blank, do i get a 2nd account, or they link them up ?
You obviously didnt read this thread at least.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shotguns on August 08, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
I just signed up a month ago for the 25k bonus any hopes of getting them to give me the 30?
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on August 08, 2012, 02:30:31 PM
I just signed up a month ago for the 25k bonus any hopes of getting them to give me the 30?

Honestly probably not but it never hurts to try!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ChasingTheDime on August 08, 2012, 02:36:24 PM
I just signed up a month ago for the 25k bonus any hopes of getting them to give me the 30?

i tried, was shot down
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2012, 03:48:48 PM
Referral discussion isn't allowed on DDF.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: aryeh1 on August 08, 2012, 04:22:51 PM
If I have 2 active amex cards should I close any for a better chance of getting approved for 2 new Amex cards?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: PETERP on August 08, 2012, 04:38:43 PM
You can totally 3bm this with other Amex cards.

Can I 3 BM  SPG personal ( have one now) with SPG Biz And DL 35 K biz as part of a 3 bank 6-7 card
 chase , Barclays apporama

 
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: regalhome on August 09, 2012, 07:41:48 PM
Did a 2bm yesterday for my wife PRG + SPG. Got approved right away and had the PRG overnighted to me. Do they usually send things this fast?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: meshugener on August 09, 2012, 08:37:14 PM
PRG always gets automatically overnighted.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: KidOOO on August 09, 2012, 09:42:46 PM
If i just applied for 2 personal cards 2 weeks ago can i apply for the SPG now or will it count as duplicate?

Bump
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 09, 2012, 10:24:06 PM
PRG always gets automatically overnighted.
Yup my wife applied yesterday and I got the card today!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: springles on August 09, 2012, 10:34:56 PM
i tried, was shot down
try again, last year I was successful in getting them to match the offer (and they accidentally gave me the 25+20
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 09, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
try again, last year I was successful in getting them to match the offer (and they accidentally gave me the 25+20
last year was last year, this year is a diff. year ;)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Lamdan on August 10, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
Just got approved yesterday, can I get the card overnighted?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ChasingTheDime on August 10, 2012, 01:04:42 PM
try again, last year I was successful in getting them to match the offer (and they accidentally gave me the 25+20

i am still trying, and laying the guilt on thick, but i dont seem to be  making progress
perhaps i can annoy them enough that they crack  ::)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: PETERP on August 10, 2012, 03:12:24 PM
PRG always gets automatically overnighted.

+1  Got SPG Biz  today and they said they would UPS express .  DL Biz and HH personal pending . Called in but still have to wait. So much for3BM IMHO.

 Think the 2 Biz cards would have  passed. Got 2 Citi Hilton via 2 BM and one Ink plus all three after calling in .

Amex getting tough

Guess Citi still pulled EQ otherwise they would not have given me 2 new cards
after 3  I got from them  in last year. 
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: PETERP on August 10, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Just got approved yesterday, can I get the card overnighted?

Yes !  I have had cards overnight ed to Europe after sent out snail mail,  and told to destroy the dupe when I get back NYC .

At least 3 times Amex and Chase 
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: askmoses on August 10, 2012, 06:22:55 PM
:)
I'm still waiting on mine...
Just an update... got a call for my Plat card today and lady was just looking to confirm some stuff... I was actually pretty busy on the other line and she saw that, so she is just said "ok I'll approve you for it, just confirm your shipping address"!

Anyhow I go online and check my other app status (SPG consumer) and I'm approved for that as well!
This is pretty significant because after shutting all Amexs down do to a F/R I had managed to get one Business SPG in January but this is my foot back in the door of the Personal Amex cards!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: PETERP on August 10, 2012, 06:33:43 PM
Just an update... got a call for my Plat card today and lady was just looking to confirm some stuff... I was actually pretty busy on the other line and she saw that, so she is just said "ok I'll approve you for it, just confirm your shipping address"!

Anyhow I go online and check my other app status (SPG consumer) and I'm approved for that as well!
This is pretty significant because after shutting all Amexs down do to a F/R I had managed to get one Business SPG in January but this is my foot back in the door of the Personal Amex cards!

Congrats  :)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ahecht37 on August 12, 2012, 09:32:27 PM
i applied for the mercedes plat and spg with 2 browsers, got approved for plat. but was told theres a 14 day wait till answer for spg. any ideas on how to get a faster (positive) answer?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on August 12, 2012, 10:02:18 PM
i applied for the mercedes plat and spg with 2 browsers, got approved for plat. but was told theres a 14 day wait till answer for spg. any ideas on how to get a faster (positive) answer?

call?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: mb on August 13, 2012, 08:22:51 AM
Has anyone had any experience with opening multiple Amex SPG business cards for one individual, but multiple corporations (and EINs, of course)?

With the Chase Ink Bold (and even Amex Plat), I've been able to open numerous business cards with no problem because each one is for a different corporation. Wondering if I can get away with the same with Amex SPG, but it seems they're a little tougher...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ahecht37 on August 13, 2012, 03:37:23 PM
call?
any recomended number? i didnt even get an email from spg
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 13, 2012, 03:38:49 PM
any reccomended number? i didnt even get an email
1-866-314-0237
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ahecht37 on August 13, 2012, 03:39:33 PM
1-866-314-0237
thanks
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ahecht37 on August 13, 2012, 10:36:50 PM

[/quote]
call?
1-866-314-0237
I called, and turns out the rep said I was approved! Thanks
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: elizmm on August 14, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
I applied for spg a few months back, they requested some docs, i sent most but not all and never heard from them.

When the 30k offer came out I applied for it (on aug 7th) but was instantly declined because of a "duplicate application", then i get a letter the other day that my original application is closed because the paperwork was not submitted on time.

I called recon and they said I need to wait 30 days to try again, so my question is 1. in 30 days (sep 7) will this offer still be around 2. is there chance that if I HUCA that they can just reopen my aug 7th application or is it a lost case?

Oh and for all future reference, the doc I did not submit was a letter from the bank confirming my mailing address, the bank (bofa) said they do not write such letters so thats why i gave up, but now the friendly indian on the phones tells me that I could of just sent a utility statement.. thnx for the info now that my app was closed - i called them originally and they told me no such thing...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on August 14, 2012, 12:08:39 AM
Have them clear out your original app and reprocess the 2nd app.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: elizmm on August 14, 2012, 12:21:54 AM
Have them clear out your original app and reprocess the 2nd app.
And which dept can clear out the original app? Im not sure what I say to them: "please remove the app from my history"?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: elizmm on August 14, 2012, 10:01:47 AM
And which dept can clear out the original app? Im not sure what I say to them: "please remove the app from my history"?
@Dan or @anyone, which dept do you suggest I call to clear out the original app?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 14, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
@Dan or @anyone, which dept do you suggest I call to clear out the original app?
1-866-314-0237
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: DovDov on August 14, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
I've never had spg and would like to sign up for a spg biz and spg personal, Should i sign up for a spg # first and then submit both apps with the same spg # or leave both blank?

Thanks
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: montey on August 14, 2012, 01:13:00 PM
i did not know this

am i applying with all the exact same info as the first time i applied ?

and if i leave my starwoods number blank, do i get a 2nd account, or they link them up ?

You could order as many cards as you want but still have to meet the minimum spend on them to get the bonus
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: elizmm on August 17, 2012, 03:50:56 PM

Thank you! The 2nd application is now "in progress".

Fingers crossed on getting approved, amex has always given me issues...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: dd321 on August 17, 2012, 04:52:13 PM
you think i can still get the promotion if i signed up for the card mid july?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on August 17, 2012, 10:43:00 PM
Amex doesn't match
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: ChasingTheDime on August 22, 2012, 09:34:33 AM
after fighting them for a while, i got this

Quote
Response (Praveen Shrivastava)     08/20/2012 09:19 PM
Dear xxxxx,

I appreciate your understanding that unless any offer has been solicited to you, it cannot be manually to an account on which they were not solicited.

I therefore request you to provide us with the offer code so that we can research the promotion and assist you. The offer ID is in the alpha numeric form and looks like X000:0000.

You can also provide the Bonus ID (four digit number), which is usually mentioned in bold.


If you could not find the offer ID or the Bonus Id, then please provide us with any/every additional detail regarding the offer you received which can be a promotion ID as mentioned above or the complete name of the offer, the exact time period when you received it or any other detail that might be of help to locate the offer details at our end.

Once we receive the requested information, we will be glad research your account further. We sincerely hope that this will not inconvenience you and look forward to handling your request.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Praveen Shrivastava
Email Servicing Team
American Express Interactive Services

anyone know what this code is, or where i can get it
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Jkhein on August 27, 2012, 05:14:53 AM
just got approved for second card within 12 months. how can i verify that I will receive the offer bonus, call them?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on August 27, 2012, 05:35:10 AM
just got approved for second card within 12 months. how can i verify that I will receive the offer bonus, call them?
Ask them until when you have to spend $x in order to receive your 30k bonus.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Jkhein on August 27, 2012, 06:09:04 AM
Ask them until when you have to spend $x in order to receive your 30k bonus.
thanks
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: DovDov on August 28, 2012, 05:16:11 PM
I did a 3bm and got this on all 3

Is this normal? Should I call?

"Thank You for applying for the Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card.
In order to provide you with an instant decision, we need to speak with you. We are available to assist you during our Hours of Operations: Monday-Friday 8AM to Midnight, Saturdays 9:30AM to 9PM, and Sundays 10AM to 9PM Eastern Time........"

Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on August 28, 2012, 06:09:59 PM
Call. Likely only verification questions.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: DovDov on August 28, 2012, 06:48:33 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: jjoyce on August 29, 2012, 02:58:07 PM
Skimmed through most of the thread but didn't notice anything being mentioned about the required EIN on this app. I've always just used my ss number for biz cards but it doesn't seem to offer that option on this app. Is there a work-around for this or do you just have to go apply for an EIN?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 29, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
Skimmed through most of the thread but didn't notice anything being mentioned about the required EIN on this app. I've always just used my ss number for biz cards but it doesn't seem to offer that option on this app. Is there a work-around for this or do you just have to go apply for an EIN?
You never thought about reading this post?? http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23240
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: jjoyce on August 29, 2012, 03:09:43 PM
You never thought about reading this thread?? http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23240

No, I never thought about reading that 'thread'. Although that might have something to do with not knowing that 'thread' existed. (This is why i rarely ask a question on these boards. The probability of getting an annoyingly snarky reply tends to be pretty high around here.) But aside from the snark, thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 29, 2012, 03:13:49 PM
No, I never thought about reading that 'thread'. Although that might have something to do with not knowing that 'thread' existed. (This is why i rarely ask a question on these boards. The probability of getting an annoyingly snarky reply tends to be pretty high around here.) But aside from the snark, thanks for the help.
If you dont follow DD and the answer to your question is posted on the main site then please dont post anything.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: myb821 on August 29, 2012, 03:16:30 PM
JEWDA YOU NEED TO CHILL!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 29, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
JEWDA YOU NEED TO CHILL!
OK!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on August 29, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
Just did my first 3bm in a while.  SPG Bus and personal, and Gold.  Got SPG bus and Gold instantly.  Waiting on personal.  What are my chances if I already have one?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on August 29, 2012, 03:41:23 PM
Anyone know how long it takes to get this card? My wife got approved last week monday and still never got it.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on August 29, 2012, 03:51:15 PM
Anyone know how long it takes to get this card? My wife got approved last week monday and still never got it.
IME Amex does overnight or 2/3 day fedex.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on August 29, 2012, 05:33:40 PM
Anyone know how long it takes to get this card? My wife got approved last week monday and still never got it.

Took mine at least a week, maybe two.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shmelly on August 29, 2012, 05:41:30 PM
No, I never thought about reading that 'thread'. Although that might have something to do with not knowing that 'thread' existed. (This is why i rarely ask a question on these boards. The probability of getting an annoyingly snarky reply tends to be pretty high around here.) But aside from the snark, thanks for the help.
I think you'll find that its only the one particular member who responded to you that acts like that on a regular basis. The rest of the members here have been nothing but a great help to me and many others. Sorry you had to be attacked like that in 2 consecutive, extremely childish, posts.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shmelly on August 29, 2012, 06:00:09 PM
I currently have a personal SPG which I was planning on cancelling in November. I will be applying for the 30K offer over this upcoming weekend. While I'm aware that you can have 2 personal SPGs, would my chances of getting approved now increase if I were to just close my older one?  Or is getting a 2nd one just as simple as getting a 1st one.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 01, 2012, 11:52:19 PM
I want to do a 3/bm  for spg biz. Anyone can suggest what other 2 cards are good for sign up bonuses?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on September 02, 2012, 12:01:13 AM
I want to do a 3/bm  for spg biz. Anyone can suggest what other 2 cards are good for sign up bonuses?
Why not go with the Amex Plat MB(50k MR) as you need to spend $1k only and get $100 certificate for Mercedes(extra bonus) or the Gold for 25k MR and spent $2k within 3 months.

Wonder if you get a personal SPG as well if that would fly?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Yosers1 on September 02, 2012, 01:01:32 AM
I followed Dan's advice and applied for a second spg card and was approved. I did not put in an spg number with the hope of qualifying for the 30K promo. Amex issued me another spg number. How do I proceed? SPG is telling me that I need to merge the accounts...What should I do to ensure I get the 30K points for the new card?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on September 02, 2012, 01:12:51 AM
I followed Dan's advice and applied for a second spg card and was approved. I did not put in an spg number with the hope of qualifying for the 30K promo. Amex issued me another spg number. How do I proceed? SPG is telling me that I need to merge the accounts...What should I do to ensure I get the 30K points for the new card?
Wait till the points post on your new account, and merge them afterwards.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Yosers1 on September 02, 2012, 07:19:17 AM
But I can't activate the account online to see if/when the points post.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 02, 2012, 08:02:41 AM
But I can't activate the account online to see if/when the points post.
Why not?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Ergel on September 02, 2012, 08:34:19 AM
It'll say on the amex site how many points they've transferred to spg
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Lamdan on September 02, 2012, 02:12:58 PM
I spent the 1st spend 4 days b4 the 1st statement closed, could it be I didn't get the 10k because the spending was too close to the closing date, and I shouldn't panic till the next statement?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on September 02, 2012, 02:53:21 PM
I spent the 1st spend 4 days b4 the 1st statement closed, could it be I didn't get the 10k because the spending was too close to the closing date, and I shouldn't panic till the next statement?
Don't panic
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Lamdan on September 02, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
Don't panic
Is that general life advice, or you think it might have been too close to the statement.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 03, 2012, 07:46:55 PM
Will I be able to apply with 30k tomorrow?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on September 03, 2012, 07:49:41 PM
Yes but they can pull it anytime.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on September 03, 2012, 10:14:10 PM
Is there any chance to get approved  for card when amex is waiting for my 4605 from diff app?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on September 03, 2012, 10:16:28 PM
As long as the app is in you should be fine.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: doublejay on September 03, 2012, 11:20:32 PM
Just did my first 3bm in a while.  SPG Bus and personal, and Gold.  Got SPG bus and Gold instantly.  Waiting on personal.  What are my chances if I already have one?

Honestly, a little lazy to search through the forum.

Anyone wanna remind me, is the verdict in that a 3bm with mixed business and personal cards combines for only one pull?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on September 03, 2012, 11:24:12 PM
YMMV (sorry, but it is...)

But to the extent it helps, I just did a mixed successfully in the last month.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: doublejay on September 03, 2012, 11:29:39 PM
YMMV (sorry, but it is...)

But to the extent it helps, I just did a mixed successfully in the last month.

K. Appreciate it.

So I am gonna do MB Plat (2nd time around) and SPG business (first time) and I currently have the SPG personal.

What's the process for the SPG regarding SPG numbers? I put in my current one and it will combine?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on September 03, 2012, 11:30:57 PM
K. Appreciate it.

So I am gonna do MB Plat (2nd time around) and SPG business (first time) and I currently have the SPG personal.

What's the process for the SPG regarding SPG numbers? I put in my current one and it will combine?

If you've already earned that bonus (and no, consumer and biz are not the same bonus) then leave it blank.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: doublejay on September 03, 2012, 11:35:25 PM
If you've already earned that bonus (and no, consumer and biz are not the same bonus) then leave it blank.
SPG business (first time) and I currently have the SPG personal.

Only spg bonus I ever received is the one time for SPG personal. So I never received bonus for business. Should I put in my SPG number and it will go into same pot?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on September 03, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
It should, yes. Different card products.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on September 03, 2012, 11:43:09 PM
It should, yes. Different card products.

+1 (I'm only +1ing you because I'm responding to DJ's response to my response to his original inquiry :))
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 04, 2012, 12:00:13 AM
Just did 3/bm, online its showing declined on one and canceled on the other 2!! should I quickly do the other 2 again cuz recon is closed till tomorrow and I dont want to get 3 pulls??
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on September 04, 2012, 12:01:16 AM
Just did 3/bm, online its showing declined on one and canceled on the other 2!! should I quickly do the other 2 again cuz recon is closed till tomorrow and I dont want to get 3 pulls??

You're too close to midnight, if they use Eastern time (and/or go by your time zone) your pulls won't even be on the same day :P
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 04, 2012, 12:02:08 AM
You're too close to midnight, if they use Eastern time (and/or go by your time zone) your pulls won't even be on the same day :P
It wasnt even showing up on experian yet a few min ago
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AsherO on September 04, 2012, 12:03:28 AM
It wasnt even showing up on experian yet a few min ago

You're welcome to try for another two if you can handle the additional inquiry. You can always tell recon you applied for the wrong cards and/or were having computer problems.
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yossi4k on September 04, 2012, 12:05:14 AM
It should, yes. Different card products.
Is that only within 12 months? I had the biz already but I canceled it a few years ago...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 04, 2012, 12:21:50 AM
You're welcome to try for another two if you can handle the additional inquiry. You can always tell recon you applied for the wrong cards and/or were having computer problems.
You think there's no chance it will be considered the same day?
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: smurf on September 04, 2012, 12:24:07 AM
You think there's no chance it will be considered the same day?
who said it's a 1 day rule ? Maybe anything within a certain time frame gets consolidated
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 04, 2012, 12:26:52 AM
who said it's a 1 day rule ? Maybe anything within a certain time frame gets consolidated
For some reason people here decided that it works like that.

BTW has anyone ever gotten a card canceled and then reconsidered? Or does it mean they didnt even pull for those apps?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on September 04, 2012, 09:18:33 AM
what does "in progress" mean for app status?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 04, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
what does "in progress" mean for app status?
It prob means your app is on hold. Call them.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 04, 2012, 09:25:23 AM
Just did 3/bm, online its showing declined on one and canceled on the other 2!! should I quickly do the other 2 again cuz recon is closed till tomorrow and I dont want to get 3 pulls??
Update:
Called Amex, comes out they didn't even do a hard pull for any of them and they declined the 1st one based on a soft pull done in the begining of August. She told me the other 2 were not canceled but they were on hold and a hard pull was not done yet. So I told her to send them all in now for a review and they should do a hard pull on all of them, hoping I'll get one pull. Now showing In Progess.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: myb821 on September 04, 2012, 09:56:54 AM
Update:
Called Amex, comes out they didn't even do a hard pull for any of them and they declined the 1st one based on a soft pull done in the begining of August. She told me the other 2 were not canceled but they were on hold and a hard pull was not done yet. So I told her to send them all in now for a review and they should do a hard pull on all of them, hoping I'll get one pull. Now showing In Progess.
that is probably not true u may want to check ur report b4 u believe reps
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 04, 2012, 10:07:41 AM
that is probably not true u may want to check ur report b4 u believe reps
read my posts above. I did check my report.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: businessmachine on September 04, 2012, 04:12:30 PM
Applied for both SPG personal and Biz (using Dans Links) Both showing as in Progress. Called and the REP kept repeating that we cannot apply for more then one card within 30 days. He is trying to manually approve my SPG personal and said I will have to wait 4-5 days for business card. He took my number and said he'll call me back?

What do you all recommend? Should I call someone else?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shmelly on September 04, 2012, 04:47:09 PM
what does "in progress" mean for app status?
It prob means your app is on hold. Call them.
Incorrect. I did 2 apps yesterday that both showed "in progress"; I just got confirmation emails saying both were approved.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: bruce on September 04, 2012, 07:57:25 PM
Applied for both SPG personal and Biz (using Dans Links) Both showing as in Progress. Called and the REP kept repeating that we cannot apply for more then one card within 30 days. He is trying to manually approve my SPG personal and said I will have to wait 4-5 days for business card. He took my number and said he'll call me back?

What do you all recommend? Should I call someone else?

Are you sure this doesnt mean that they will be doing another pull?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on September 05, 2012, 10:25:10 AM
Just did my first 3bm in a while.  SPG Bus and personal, and Gold.  Got SPG bus and Gold instantly.  Waiting on personal.  What are my chances if I already have one?
Update: Approved on all 3  :) but with 2 pulls  :( (oddly one for spg bus and gold and the other for spg personal)
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: creditor on September 05, 2012, 10:27:18 AM
Update: Approved on all 3  :) but with 2 pulls  :( (oddly one for spg bus and gold and the other for spg personal)
nice. do you have 2 personal spg's now ?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on September 05, 2012, 10:55:01 AM
yes. and btw I did use the same spg number!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: txtmax4 on September 05, 2012, 10:59:12 AM
yes. and btw I did use the same spg number!
How old is your 1st SPG CC?
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: creditor on September 05, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
yes. and btw I did use the same spg number!
1) weird
2) where was your brain, when doing that ? what made ya think its gonna work out?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 05, 2012, 11:02:08 AM
yes. and btw I did use the same spg number!
post back when/if you get bonus
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on September 05, 2012, 11:56:23 AM
How old is your 1st SPG CC?
around 9 months
1) weird
2) where was your brain, when doing that ? what made ya think its gonna work out?
Does anyone have experience with not getting appprove/bonus this way?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: creditor on September 05, 2012, 11:58:20 AM
around 9 monthsDoes anyone have experience with not getting appprove/bonus this way?
usually people apply with blank/new no. to get the bonus. it doesn't make to much sense they should honor it that way
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: creditor on September 05, 2012, 12:00:06 PM
post back when/if you get bonus
IMBW, but if they wouldn't like him having same spg, twice then they would've just denied him approval.
once he's in, he's in. no ?
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 05, 2012, 12:07:06 PM
IMBW, but if they wouldn't like him having same spg, twice then they would've just denied him approval.
once he's in, he's in. no ?
they can always tell him REPOST! ;)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: creditor on September 05, 2012, 12:11:09 PM
they can always tell him REPOST! ;)
thats exactly why I thank hashem every day that jewda is hanging around ddf and not amex/chase. :P
Title: Re: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 05, 2012, 12:12:32 PM
thats exactly why I thank hashem every day that jewda is hanging around ddf and not amex/chase. :P
That what YOU think...
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: creditor on September 05, 2012, 12:14:15 PM
That what YOU think...
well it looks like that's the situation.

seriously now. me thinks good Sam is good to go.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on September 05, 2012, 12:28:41 PM
well it looks like that's the situation.

seriously now. me thinks good Sam is good to go.
And the personal was not instant approval.  Using a different spg number might be overly cautious and an added annoyance.  But I'll let you know when I get the bonus to be sure.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: txtmax4 on September 05, 2012, 12:28:46 PM
around 9 months
Nice.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on September 05, 2012, 12:29:26 PM
Update: Approved on all 3  :) but with 2 pulls  :( (oddly one for spg bus and gold and the other for spg personal)

How do you know?

Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on September 05, 2012, 12:50:28 PM
safe assumption.  I had one pull after the first 2 approvals and got another pull today.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yare on September 05, 2012, 12:58:30 PM
usually people apply with blank/new no. to get the bonus. it doesn't make to much sense they should honor it that way
i've gotten the bonus on same spg number multiple times
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: good sam on September 05, 2012, 01:03:09 PM
Figured.  Seems like they don't check into these things.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: KidOOO on September 05, 2012, 02:57:14 PM
If i applied yesterday from the 30K link but they only approved it today, will i still get the 30K rather than the 25K?

i seem to remember that it said you application has to be APPROVED by Sep 4th to get the points
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 05, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
If i applied yesterday from the 30K link but they only approved it today, will i still get the 30K rather than the 25K?

i seem to remember that it said you application has to be APPROVED by Sep 4th to get the points
As long as you applied when it was 30k you'll get 30k
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yare on September 05, 2012, 03:34:30 PM
Figured.  Seems like they don't check into these things.
though there was one time where i didn't get it :P   
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Zeeeeks on September 06, 2012, 02:20:25 PM
I applied in July for the 25k offer and Amex gave me the additional 5k points today for the better offer :)

Is Amex matching back?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: asks on September 06, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
I applied in July for the 25k offer and Amex gave me the additional 5k points today for the better offer :)

Is Amex matching back?

I dont think so at least not 100% of the time, but what did you ask for and who did you speak to?

I was also able to get it after getting rejected via SM but then called it in and they told me they would decide in 7-10 days.  I know another DDF'er who tried same thing and had no luck both SM and CS but he got 2.5k goodwill instead.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Zeeeeks on September 06, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
I dont think so at least not 100% of the time, but what did you ask for and who did you speak to?

I was also able to get it after getting rejected via SM but then called it in and they told me they would decide in 7-10 days.  I know another DDF'er who tried same thing and had no luck both SM and CS but he got 2.5k goodwill instead.
Called SPG CS 800-297-1000
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: asks on September 06, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
Called SPG CS 800-297-1000
Nice
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shmelly on September 06, 2012, 04:08:21 PM
I left my SPG # blank on the app. Do I SM to have it added? Or do I get a different # provided by them and merge it later once I get the bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: compddd on September 07, 2012, 10:53:39 AM
I applied in July for the 25k offer and Amex gave me the additional 5k points today for the better offer :)

Is Amex matching back?

No you just got very lucky with a nice rep.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: tuvz on September 12, 2012, 09:42:40 AM
Yes !  I have had cards overnight ed to Europe after sent out snail mail,  and told to destroy the dupe when I get back NYC .

At least 3 times Amex and Chase

I just got approved for the starwood and called up to get it sent to me overseas but she told me they have send a letter about the apr and only after that do they send the card.
Any way to speed this up?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: PETERP on September 12, 2012, 11:18:51 AM
I just got approved for the starwood and called up to get it sent to me overseas but she told me they have send a letter about the apr and only after that do they send the card.
Any way to speed this up?


I have received the entire package overseas including Apr fees etc.

I told them I read the app T  & C Which discusses that .

They said with the new Fed banking laws that they had to be sure you got the APR fees terms

I insisted and got more than 4 cards sent to me !
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 12, 2012, 11:26:16 AM
Update:
Called Amex, comes out they didn't even do a hard pull for any of them and they declined the 1st one based on a soft pull done in the begining of August. She told me the other 2 were not canceled but they were on hold and a hard pull was not done yet. So I told her to send them all in now for a review and they should do a hard pull on all of them, hoping I'll get one pull. Now showing In Progess.
Update:
They pulled once on sep. 5 and still all 3 apps were showing In Progress until this morning when I checked and one app was approved and sure enough they pulled again today! >:( They said the other 2 apps are still on hold.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on September 12, 2012, 05:33:58 PM
So I called amex and asked why they pulled twice and the woman didn't really speak good English and I wasn't getting anywhere so I decided to call experian and explain to them that its a duplicate and that I want to dispute it, so she said they'll speak to amex and find out if they could dispute it.  Just got an email with results that they deleted the pull from today
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on September 12, 2012, 05:39:48 PM
Congrats!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shmelly on September 12, 2012, 08:39:29 PM
I left my SPG # blank on the app. Do I SM to have my existing one added? Or do I get a new # provided by Amex and then  merge it later once I get the bonus?
BUMP
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: CholentTheTraveler on September 12, 2012, 09:21:59 PM
BUMP
Leave it and get a new number and then have the accounts merged. It is pretty simple to have the accounts merged(even a spouse can be combined to your account)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: blue eyes on September 13, 2012, 12:09:32 PM
I applied for the spg when they had the 25K offer and wanted amex to match the 30K offer for me
this is what they sent back

Dear xxxx
I apologize but I am unable to locate any promotional offer of earning 30,000 bonus Starpoints on your account.

The offer associated to your Starwood Preferred Guest is to earn up to 25,000 Starpoints:

1) 10,000 Bonus Starpoints is earned after the first purchase is made within a year from the time the Card account is opened.
2) 15,000 Bonus Starpoints is earned after you have completed $5,000 of eligible spending within the first 183 days of Cardmembership.

We are unable to enroll your account or award Reward points to your account for the 30,000 points offer, as it was a limited only to customers who were explicitly sent this offer.

Please understand we are unable to make each individual offer available to all our Cardmembers. While this particular offer is not available to you, we are always creating new offers to help our existing Cardmembers earn more bonus points. When an offer becomes available to you, we will send you a letter or email explaining the opportunity and how you can take advantage of it.

We appreciate your understanding and look forward to assisting you in the future.

Sincerely,
Surajit Dhar
Email Servicing Team
American Express Interactive Services
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: asks on September 13, 2012, 12:13:14 PM
I applied for the spg when they had the 25K offer and wanted amex to match the 30K offer for me
this is what they sent back

Dear xxxx
I apologize but I am unable to locate any promotional offer of earning 30,000 bonus Starpoints on your account.

The offer associated to your Starwood Preferred Guest is to earn up to 25,000 Starpoints:

1) 10,000 Bonus Starpoints is earned after the first purchase is made within a year from the time the Card account is opened.
2) 15,000 Bonus Starpoints is earned after you have completed $5,000 of eligible spending within the first 183 days of Cardmembership.

We are unable to enroll your account or award Reward points to your account for the 30,000 points offer, as it was a limited only to customers who were explicitly sent this offer.

Please understand we are unable to make each individual offer available to all our Cardmembers. While this particular offer is not available to you, we are always creating new offers to help our existing Cardmembers earn more bonus points. When an offer becomes available to you, we will send you a letter or email explaining the opportunity and how you can take advantage of it.

We appreciate your understanding and look forward to assisting you in the future.

Sincerely,
Surajit Dhar
Email Servicing Team
American Express Interactive Services

call them and ask for the additional points as goodwill
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: PETERP on September 13, 2012, 12:28:03 PM
call them and ask for the additional points as goodwill

+ 1 And call and call till you get them . HUCA
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: blue eyes on September 13, 2012, 02:44:17 PM
you dont think that SM will work better?

Def less time consuming lol
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: asks on September 13, 2012, 02:57:24 PM
you dont think that SM will work better?

Def less time consuming lol
For this issue, i have found that explaining it to someone over the phone, you have a better chance of convincing the rep as opposed to SM where their first impulse is to say no for mathcing offer
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shotguns on September 20, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
i had the same issue and the rep gave me 3000 points as goodwill. she said thats the maximum they can give. i guess it depends on the person
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Smokey Joe Robinson on September 21, 2012, 12:37:03 AM
So I called amex and asked why they pulled twice and the woman didn't really speak good English and I wasn't getting anywhere so I decided to call experian and explain to them that its a duplicate and that I want to dispute it, so she said they'll speak to amex and find out if they could dispute it.  Just got an email with results that they deleted the pull from today

I tried disputing 2 pulls from chase due to similar problem where they froze one app and only put it through after calling me.

Experian told me that since one came up as "Chase" and the other "Chase Bank" that theyre not the same. I tried explaining that perhaps 2 different departments pulled for the same application, so they said I'd need a letter from Chase stating such. I Huca'ed few times and then just gave up. If anyone has any ideas, id be glad to hear them.
Title: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: lcyitz on September 21, 2012, 10:08:06 AM
What's the chances of getting my bonus on my second Spg card if I put my 1st# in on the second application.

They were more than a year apart.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on September 25, 2012, 01:31:26 PM
Update: Got the 30K automatically for each of my churned SPG cards :D
#FatLadyHasNotYetSung
Title: Re: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: sky121 on September 25, 2012, 01:33:43 PM
Update: Got the 30K automatically for each of my churned SPG cards :D
#FatLadyHasNotYetSung

Lol- good news!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on September 25, 2012, 03:39:08 PM
Merged the new account to my old one. All points and elite stay credits have moved over.
Having 4 primary SPG cards sure makes Plat requal easier!
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: HelpMe on September 25, 2012, 04:12:42 PM
Experian told me that since one came up as "Chase" and the other "Chase Bank" that theyre not the same. I tried explaining that perhaps 2 different departments pulled for the same application, so they said I'd need a letter from Chase stating such. I Huca'ed few times and then just gave up. If anyone has any ideas, id be glad to hear them.
If they are not coded exactly the same you will have a hard time getting one removed.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on September 26, 2012, 10:40:16 PM
Update: Got the 30K automatically for each of my churned SPG cards :D
#FatLadyHasNotYetSung

I don't believe the new T&Cs apply to the SPG card...
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Dan on September 26, 2012, 10:41:34 PM
I don't believe the new T&Cs apply to the SPG card...
Why not?

"Earn up to 25,000 bonus Starpoints†
†Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have had this product within the last 12 months."
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: AJK on September 26, 2012, 10:48:34 PM
Why not?

"Earn up to 25,000 bonus Starpoints†
†Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have had this product within the last 12 months."

Ah, stand corrected. Thought it was only for plats and golds.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Drago on September 27, 2012, 07:12:05 AM
Merged the new account to my old one. All points and elite stay credits have moved over.
Having 4 primary SPG cards sure makes Plat requal easier!
Interestingly, when I first opened my 3 new cards, they assigned me new SPG #'s. But when the points posted, they all posted to the original SPG account w/o my doing anything.
I wonder if that was done on AMEX or SPG's end of things.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: rochel on October 16, 2012, 11:39:33 PM
I was approved for new card for me and my husband with this promo and started using it and I got no bonus points at all, we already have one open starwoods account, is this only for first timers?  what do I tell them when I call
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on October 16, 2012, 11:42:01 PM
I was approved for new card for me and my husband with this promo and started using it and I got no bonus points at all, we already have one open starwoods account, is this only for first timers?  what do I tell them when I call
Send them a secure message.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shmelly on November 01, 2012, 04:33:00 PM
When does the 10K for first purchase usually post?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on November 01, 2012, 04:45:19 PM
When does the 10K for first purchase usually post?
within a few days IME
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Shmelly on November 01, 2012, 05:36:19 PM
within a few days IME
Darn. Its been a month. Hope I'm not getting 12 month policied, or my entire 3BM will have been for naught.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: joeb1 on November 01, 2012, 06:19:15 PM
how long did i have to spend 5k for the 30k bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yoyo6713 on November 01, 2012, 06:39:31 PM
how long did i have to spend 5k for the 30k bonus?
If I remember correctly 6 months from your application date.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: U-no-me! on November 01, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
If I remember correctly 6 months from your application date.

From statement closing date.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: yoyo6713 on November 03, 2012, 08:41:52 PM
Anyone has the business SPG 30K screenshot?  AMEX said I signed up for the 25K
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: JEWDA on November 03, 2012, 08:43:24 PM
Anyone has the business SPG 30K screenshot?  AMEX said I signed up for the 25K
I don't think it will help with a screenshot. If you bug them enough they might be nice and give you 5k as a goodwill.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: rochel on November 04, 2012, 01:25:51 AM
Send them a secure message.

I got no where with an SM can I still try to call, do they have records of the SMs that they sent me, or should I play dumb and say that I had no idea that I was not eligible for the bonus 
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: btab on November 26, 2012, 02:59:12 AM
I left my SPG # blank on the app. Do I SM to have it added? Or do I get a different # provided by them and merge it later once I get the bonus?

Is it possible to merge SPG Numbers? And would that also be the case if you had an SPG number and your spouse has a different number, could they merge those accounts as well?

On a sidenote, would this work for other hotel/airline member numbers?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: schlomo on November 28, 2012, 11:21:34 AM

I got no where with an SM can I still try to call, do they have records of the SMs that they sent me, or should I play dumb and say that I had no idea that I was not eligible for the bonus

Bump.

Same issue here (had an SPG, applied for new one with blank and got assigned a new number, met spend requirement, waited 2 months, but no bonus points awarded).   When I called, they saw my previous cards, quoted "the 12 month rule" and said "no soup for you".

Any advice on what to say when I call/write again?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: schlomo on November 28, 2012, 12:35:10 PM
Sorry, just found this thread...http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=19144.0 .

So it seems the smart move is to close the (no bonus producing) card right away to start the clock again.     Anyone have any luck getting some sympathy points?  (Sorry to ask but the searches and an hour of reading produced nothing for me on this....)
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 19, 2012, 11:01:34 PM
Just got the 30K for the consumer SPG card. I got it before I spent 5k on the card. The description for the 20K was SPG AX LIMITED TIME OFFER instead of CONSUMER which it says by the 10K.
Title: spg personal and business
Post by: bookwrm on December 21, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
hi all,

recently i opened up an spg business account. i already have a regular spg card. when looking at my points both cards reveal the same amount. does this mean i won't be getting the business start up bonus points? i should preface that i opened this card less than a month ago, although i have already spent some money on it.

thanks a bunch :)
Title: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: EE4504 on December 31, 2012, 08:08:33 PM
I just hit my first year with this card and i got the yearly $65 membership fee. I have 2 other personal amex spg cards and i really don't need this card and do not want to pay the 65 fee. should i close it or is there another option?
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: nutcase on December 31, 2012, 09:39:13 PM
I just hit my first year with this card and i got the yearly $65 membership fee. I have 2 other personal amex spg cards and i really don't need this card and do not want to pay the 65 fee. should i close it or is there another option?
you can ask them if they can downgrade it to another credit card(I don't think they can change it to a charge card) please post what they offer.
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: EE4504 on January 01, 2013, 10:33:51 AM
Do they have a card with no annual fee?
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: eli1571 on January 01, 2013, 11:38:26 AM
I just hit my first year with this card and i got the yearly $65 membership fee. I have 2 other personal amex spg cards and i really don't need this card and do not want to pay the 65 fee. should i close it or is there another option?
i dont think you can change it to apersonal card (unlike chase)
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: EE4504 on January 07, 2013, 12:36:45 PM
That's the reply i got today  from AMEX: 

I see that you can transfer your card to the following fee free cards:

- American Express SimplyCash Business Card
- Blue from Business

Does anybody have a suggestion which one to go for?
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: M on January 07, 2013, 08:55:05 PM
I had the same situation and changed the card to BLUE CASH>
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: MEIR613 on January 08, 2013, 07:13:55 PM
I just hit my first year with this card and i got the yearly $65 membership fee. I have 2 other personal amex spg cards and i really don't need this card and do not want to pay the 65 fee. should i close it or is there another option?
Why not keep it for retention, SBS?
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: EE4504 on January 09, 2013, 10:00:28 PM
Why not keep it for retention, SBS?

What's retention, SBS?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: EE4504 on January 09, 2013, 10:06:04 PM
Does it make any sense to close this card and open a new Business Blue card to get the 10k welcome bonus points or just change my amex spg to it and not make the welcome bonus points.? Does closing a card ruin credit score?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: tuvz on January 09, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
i got the 30k SPG offer in september and have almost reached the 5k threshold, however the 10k points after first $1 never posted...should i be worried?
the card was part of a 3bm, delta & PRG whose bonuses already posted, and were my first 3 amex cards ever...
Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: MEIR613 on January 10, 2013, 01:07:41 AM
What's retention, SBS?
Retention is when you get points for having to pay the AF and SBS is an AMEX promotion.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: mmermss on January 10, 2013, 01:18:29 AM
Does it make any sense to close this card and open a new Business Blue card to get the 10k welcome bonus points or just change my amex spg to it and not make the welcome bonus points.? Does closing a card ruin credit score?
http://dansdeals.com/archives/15735
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: MEIR613 on January 10, 2013, 08:07:56 AM
Is it possible to merge SPG Numbers? And would that also be the case if you had an SPG number and your spouse has a different number, could they merge those accounts as well?

On a sidenote, would this work for other hotel/airline member numbers?
You can merge your own spg accounts and transfer points between accounts with the same address.

Every ff program is different.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: btab on January 10, 2013, 01:15:38 PM
You can merge your own spg accounts and transfer points between accounts with the same address.

Every ff program is different.

Thanks.
Own including spouse? Is that in the T and Cs?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: mmermss on January 10, 2013, 01:16:36 PM
Thanks.
Own including spouse?

No.  You can change your address, transfer points, then change add back.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: MEIR613 on January 10, 2013, 01:18:17 PM
Thanks.
Own including spouse? Is that in the T and Cs?
You can't merge accounts that aren't yours just transfer the points.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: btab on January 10, 2013, 01:20:27 PM
No.  You can change your address, transfer points, then change add back.

Is that how you are suppose to do it? Have a different address on your second SPG number in order to get the bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: btab on January 10, 2013, 01:21:18 PM
You can't merge accounts that aren't yours just transfer the points.

That makes more sense to me now.
Just to clarify: you can transfer points between accounts that share the same address - correct?
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: MEIR613 on January 10, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
That makes more sense to me now.
Just to clarify: you can transfer points between accounts that share the same address - correct?
Yep
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: mmermss on January 10, 2013, 01:25:50 PM
Is that how you are suppose to do it? Have a different address on your second SPG number in order to get the bonus?

Thats not what I was replying to.  All I said is if you want to transfer SPG points from your friends account to yours- change your address to his account, transfer points, change address back.

If applying for another SPG number with a different address in order to get the bonus will work or not...I was not talking about.  I dont know if it will work.
Title: Re: Starwood SPG 30k
Post by: MEIR613 on January 11, 2013, 03:20:58 AM
Thats not what I was replying to.  All I said is if you want to transfer SPG points from your friends account to yours- change your address to his account, transfer points, change address back.

If applying for another SPG number with a different address in order to get the bonus will work or not...I was not talking about.  I dont know if it will work.
It will be a PITA to go through verification if you don't have the right documents.

Title: Re: AMEX SPG BUSINESS - ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE
Post by: PETERP on January 11, 2013, 09:11:33 AM
Retention is when you get points for having to pay the AF and SBS is an AMEX promotion.


Retention can be when you get a statement credit for $ in the amount of the annual fee. It can be points given for certain spend in addition to waiving or crediting the annual fee .
It depends on which banking institution you are talking about and can vary bewtween customers .

Unless of course Dans has its own definition of " retention "  in that case : My Bad !
Title: Starwood Amex Churning
Post by: hjeko on January 22, 2013, 12:26:58 PM
Hello,

I opened a starwood consumer card and I was supposed to get 10,000 points but apparently they took my points back.

Redeem   -10000   01/22/2013    SPG AX 1ST USE PRE 30SEP06
Earn   +10000   01/22/2013    SPG AX 1ST PURCHASE CNSR (AX)

Is there anything I can do to get my points back?

I would appreciate your help on that.

Thanks!

JMT
Title: Re: Starwood Amex Churning
Post by: noturbizniss on January 22, 2013, 12:33:28 PM
Why'd they take the points back? Did you cancel the card or return your purchases?
Title: Re: Starwood Amex Churning
Post by: hjeko on January 22, 2013, 12:43:27 PM
I have no idea why. That's why I am asking DDF as I thought some of you might have had a similar experience...

Thanks!

JMT
Title: Re: Starwood Amex Churning
Post by: Dan on January 22, 2013, 12:43:52 PM
Never seen that before.
What does your statement say?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: hjeko on January 22, 2013, 12:46:57 PM
Thanks for your response Dan.

I checked online and this is the only information I have for now.


Activity   Amount   Post Date   Description

Redeem   -10000   01/22/2013    SPG AX 1ST USE PRE 30SEP06
Earn   +10000   01/22/2013    SPG AX 1ST PURCHASE CNSR (AX)

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Dan on January 22, 2013, 12:48:29 PM
Wait for your statement and let us know what it says.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: hjeko on January 22, 2013, 12:49:32 PM
Will do! Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bubbles on January 22, 2013, 01:51:43 PM
Thanks for your response Dan.

I checked online and this is the only information I have for now.


Activity   Amount   Post Date   Description

Redeem   -10000   01/22/2013    SPG AX 1ST USE PRE 30SEP06
Earn   +10000   01/22/2013    SPG AX 1ST PURCHASE CNSR (AX)

Just a guess from what it says but did you ever get the bonus before? Like how about on 09/30/06?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: tuvz on January 22, 2013, 08:08:10 PM
i got the 30k SPG offer in september and have almost reached the 5k threshold, however the 10k points after first $1 never posted...should i be worried?
the card was part of a 3bm, delta & PRG whose bonuses already posted, and were my first 3 amex cards ever...

Bump...
anyone?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: sky121 on January 24, 2013, 08:34:55 AM
Bump...
anyone?

Having those other cards doesn't stop you from getting the bonus on the SPG.
If the points didn't post I'd call Amex.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: tuvz on January 24, 2013, 09:50:48 AM
Having those other cards doesn't stop you from getting the bonus on the SPG.
If the points didn't post I'd call Amex.

Thanks
Im now on a big ymmv after signing up for 2 plats in my next 3bm
Should i bother now or wait till i figure out this one?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: sky121 on January 24, 2013, 09:51:56 AM
Thanks
Im now on a big ymmv after signing up for 2 plats in my next 3bm
Should i bother now or wait till i figure out this one?

That is  YMMV but the SPG shouldn't have anything to do with the other cards. Meanwhile if you aren't in a rush you could just wait.
Title: Amex Starwood question
Post by: newbelle0522 on January 28, 2013, 09:06:33 PM
Hi all.  Has anyone gotten both the starwood personal and buiness cards within a 1 year timeframe?  If so do you get both welcome bonuses?
Title: Re: Amex Starwood question
Post by: yosele on January 28, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
probably was asked zillion times, but I applied on one day for both and got both signup bonuses
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Drago on February 03, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
I have 2 personal cards and 1 biz.
I received 4 nights credit for the personal and biz cards.
Should I press SPG for receive another 2 nights for my second SPG personal card, or might it bring unwanted attention?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: btab on February 06, 2013, 01:12:27 PM
I really just wanted to share something that happened with SPG AMEX that has never really happened to me before, but I am sure you guys have got the same treatment. I bought some Restaurant.com coupons for Mozart Cafe in Hollywood FL 4 to be exact. Motzart broke their partnership with Restaurant.com and I had to get "credit" to the site. I opened up an inquiry with AMEX and after about 2 months time they found in favor of Restaurant.com. I just called back with the reference number and the lady credited my account gave me 3k starpoints and said sorry for the inconvenience. I now made the money back for the coupons, got 3k starpoints for nothing, and have 4 coupons to restaurant.com that can now be redeemed for other merchants. Oh what a wonderful day!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bruce on February 12, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
I applied for some Amex cards in September SPG's me and wife as well as a Gold.

After completing all the spends and not receiving the bonuses (25k for Gold and 30k for SPG), I wrote to them. Their response was...


Response (S.Saraswat)     02/11/2013 03:50 AM

Dear Bruce,

I see that as per the promotion, you could receive:

10,000 bonus points after the first purchase on the Card
20,000 bonus points on spending $5,000 on the Card within the first 6 months (183 days) of Cardmembership.

However, as you have a previous Starwood Preferred Guest Card ending in 91002, your new Starwood Guest Card ending in 91004 is not eligible for the bonus.

Please know that as per the terms and conditions                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          of the promotion, the bonus offer is not available to applicants who have had this product within the last 12 months.

We appreciate your understanding regarding this matter.

We value your association since 2003 and look forward to continuing to serve you.

Sincerely,                                     
                                     
Sanjay Saraswat                                     
Email Servicing Team                                     
American Express Interactive Services

I know forsure that altough the new apps specifically state this prominently in the offer terms (party may be over folks), when I applied in September this was NOT a term or condition.

Any advice, Does anyone have a print screen of the offer without the term that I can send them?

I'd appreciate any help with this matter.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: AJK on February 12, 2013, 01:40:51 PM
Why not simply reply with that?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bruce on February 12, 2013, 01:52:44 PM
Thanks!

I just did. But I would love a print screen from someone so I can be backed up with it if necessary.

Did anyone have similar experiences recently?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bruce on February 12, 2013, 03:30:55 PM
Why not simply reply with that?

Here's what I got for a response when I replied with that. I can really use a print screen of that application!

Response (Shelly Champramary_MR)     02/12/2013 03:02 PM
Dear Bruce,

I am sorry to say that you will not receive the bonus points because you already have a Starwood Preferred Guest Card ending in 91002.

A welcome bonus offer is not available to applicants who have or have had the same product within the last 12 months or have had a Card within the same product family in the last 90 days (Consumer) / 12 months (OPEN).

I am sorry that you were not aware of this term.

This information is available at the 'benefits and terms' page of the application form.

Since your account is not eligible for the bonus, we will not be able to apply it manually.

We appreciate your understanding in this matter.

Sincerely,       
       
Shelly Champramary       
Email Servicing Team       
American Express Interactive Services
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Drago on February 12, 2013, 03:41:57 PM
Not everyone has the luck of Dan...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: SPLP on February 12, 2013, 03:56:40 PM
Here's what I got for a response when I replied with that. I can really use a print screen of that application!

Response (Shelly Champramary_MR)     02/12/2013 03:02 PM
Dear Bruce,

I am sorry to say that you will not receive the bonus points because you already have a Starwood Preferred Guest Card ending in 91002.

A welcome bonus offer is not available to applicants who have or have had the same product within the last 12 months or have had a Card within the same product family in the last 90 days (Consumer) / 12 months (OPEN).

I am sorry that you were not aware of this term.

This information is available at the 'benefits and terms' page of the application form.

Since your account is not eligible for the bonus, we will not be able to apply it manually.

We appreciate your understanding in this matter.

Sincerely,       
       
Shelly Champramary       
Email Servicing Team       
American Express Interactive Services

I would not give up , I got the star biz card late Aug , and all my points posted

try sending a few more sm's - each time start a new one --  when you think it will be your last sm , tell them you want this sm reviewed by a supervisor , make sure always say "WHEN I APPLIED THE TERMS......" if can not get the points via sm  -take it to the presidents office -- do not give up
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: AJK on February 12, 2013, 03:58:54 PM
Here's what I got for a response when I replied with that. I can really use a print screen of that application!

Response (Shelly Champramary_MR)     02/12/2013 03:02 PM
Dear Bruce,

I am sorry to say that you will not receive the bonus points because you already have a Starwood Preferred Guest Card ending in 91002.

A welcome bonus offer is not available to applicants who have or have had the same product within the last 12 months or have had a Card within the same product family in the last 90 days (Consumer) / 12 months (OPEN).

I am sorry that you were not aware of this term.

This information is available at the 'benefits and terms' page of the application form.

Since your account is not eligible for the bonus, we will not be able to apply it manually.

We appreciate your understanding in this matter.

Sincerely,       
       
Shelly Champramary       
Email Servicing Team       
American Express Interactive Services

That doesn't address your claim, i.e. your app DID NOT include such language.

I'd reiterate that.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Drago on February 12, 2013, 04:13:03 PM
I would not give up , I got the star biz card late Aug , and all my points posted

try sending a few more sm's - each time start a new one --  when you think it will be your last sm , tell them you want this sm reviewed by a supervisor , make sure always say "WHEN I APPLIED THE TERMS......" if can not get the points via sm  -take it to the presidents office -- do not give up
Try tweeting them as well. That's helped me in the past.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bruce on February 12, 2013, 05:37:03 PM
I would not give up , I got the star biz card late Aug , and all my points posted

try sending a few more sm's - each time start a new one --  when you think it will be your last sm , tell them you want this sm reviewed by a supervisor , make sure always say "WHEN I APPLIED THE TERMS......" if can not get the points via sm  -take it to the presidents office -- do not give up

I appreciate that advice.

Do you think I should send the SM to different departments?

Also, how do I contact the presidents office if need be?

Also I'm scared that they may shut me down for opening so many cards?

Also will I need a print screen of the app for proof.

Sorry so many questions
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bruce on February 12, 2013, 07:13:58 PM
Try tweeting them as well. That's helped me in the past.

How do you tweet them?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: SPLP on February 13, 2013, 04:09:16 AM
I appreciate that advice.

Do you think I should send the SM to different departments?

Also, how do I contact the presidents office if need be?

Also I'm scared that they may shut me down for opening so many cards?

Also will I need a print screen of the app for proof.

Sorry so many questions

only u can answer if u think u may get shut down , if u think so --i would back off pushing and not risk  a shut down --somehow i think if a shut down was in the works , u would now by now plus i personally doubt that by pushing it will cause one

ref -"Do you think I should send the SM to different departments? " after each negative if can change i would -- but when u request a supervisor sm on top of a refusal

it would help if had a screen - try to google or flyer talk -- but i think if get right person you will not need

pres office 212 640 2000

good luck and lets us know results

 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Drago on February 13, 2013, 05:14:20 AM
How do you tweet them?
They have a twitter handle. Set up an account, and tweet to them.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bruce on February 13, 2013, 11:09:09 AM
only u can answer if u think u may get shut down , if u think so --i would back off pushing and not risk  a shut down --somehow i think if a shut down was in the works , u would now by now plus i personally doubt that by pushing it will cause one

ref -"Do you think I should send the SM to different departments? " after each negative if can change i would -- but when u request a supervisor sm on top of a refusal

it would help if had a screen - try to google or flyer talk -- but i think if get right person you will not need

pres office 212 640 2000

good luck and lets us know results


Response (Keshav Singh)     02/12/2013 11:59 PM
Dear Bruce,

I'd like to inform you that we've forwarded this matter to our concern team for further investigation.

As soon as the investigation gets completed, your account will be noted with the information and we'll inform you the eligibility and the actions taken on your account.

We appreciate your understanding and patience.

Is there anything else I may assist you with, please contact us and I will be glad to help you.

Sincerely,   
Keshav Singh 
Email Servicing Team   
American Express Interactive Services
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: SPLP on February 13, 2013, 12:06:37 PM
better then a NO-- i received similar for other requests -- and always wound up OK

Just in case you get a denial -- go back and ask for some good will since you did the spend, love the card bla bla bla
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Yungerman on February 15, 2013, 01:35:43 AM
I have some good news.

I had a SPG card that I cancelled Nov 2011. Last September before the deadline I applied and was hoping to get the bonus 30k. After calling in to demand the bonus points they made an investigation and verified that it was less than 12 months(10 months) that I cancelled before applying. I HUCA many times later but to no avail, besides for some measly 2.5k goodwill points.

Just now, as I was speaking to a CSR, I was notified that there is absolutely nothing I could do to reverse the decision of some unknown, mysterious, and unreachable department. I didn't give up(especially since I was only approx. 6 weeks short of the 12 months) and asked 
for a supervisor.

The supervisor ended up giving me 20k as goodwill/courtesy! Boruch Hashem! 22.5k total! While I'm short 7.5k, the credit inquiry is now worth it!

Lesson: Have Bitachon, HUCA, and give a nice presentation to the supervisor.

Next plan of action: Asking for goodwill points for high spending  ;D
Title: Re: Starwood Amex Churning
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 15, 2013, 01:49:26 AM
I have no idea why. That's why I am asking DDF as I thought some of you might have had a similar experience...

Thanks!

JMT
Did you have the SPG card within the past year?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: AJK on February 15, 2013, 12:11:28 PM
I have some good news.

I had a SPG card that I cancelled Nov 2011. Last September before the deadline I applied and was hoping to get the bonus 30k. After calling in to demand the bonus points they made an investigation and verified that it was less than 12 months(10 months) that I cancelled before applying. I HUCA many times later but to no avail, besides for some measly 2.5k goodwill points.

Just now, as I was speaking to a CSR, I was notified that there is absolutely nothing I could do to reverse the decision of some unknown, mysterious, and unreachable department. I didn't give up(especially since I was only approx. 6 weeks short of the 12 months) and asked 
for a supervisor.

The supervisor ended up giving me 20k as goodwill/courtesy! Boruch Hashem! 22.5k total! While I'm short 7.5k, the credit inquiry is now worth it!

Lesson: Have Bitachon, HUCA, and give a nice presentation to the supervisor.

Next plan of action: Asking for goodwill points for high spending  ;D

Nice -- biggest non-stay related goodwill-retention I've seen IIRC.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bruce on February 20, 2013, 12:46:28 PM
When they SM that they are sending for investigation, how long does the investigation typically take?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: DP7 on February 22, 2013, 11:31:21 AM
What is the most amount of points that AMEX will advance me on this card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Mtl18 on February 25, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
I put in a transfer request of points to Avios. Its been 2 weeks and I still dont see the miles in my Avios account. I know someone who put in a transfer the same day with a different credit card ompany and the miles were in his Avios account the very next day. Are SPG mile transfers generally very slow? does it help to call them?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: MEIR613 on February 25, 2013, 05:42:44 PM
I put in a transfer request of points to Avios. Its been 2 weeks and I still dont see the miles in my Avios account. I know someone who put in a transfer the same day with a different credit card ompany and the miles were in his Avios account the very next day. Are SPG mile transfers generally very slow? does it help to call them?
SPG transfers are usually very slow.
You can try and call, but I don't think it will help.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: spetropo on March 12, 2013, 10:05:06 AM
Hiya folks,
Think I am a bit confused, Just got 2k points for keeping my SPG open and paying the $65. Can/Should I apply for another SPG card for the 25k points? should i wait until the 2k points post and close then reapply. Tried to find this out on other threads with no luck. If anyone has a link that would be great don't mind reading or if you have a quick answer that would be appreciated as always.
Thanks
S
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Drago on March 12, 2013, 10:30:59 AM
Hiya folks,
Think I am a bit confused, Just got 2k points for keeping my SPG open and paying the $65. Can/Should I apply for another SPG card for the 25k points? should i wait until the 2k points post and close then reapply. Tried to find this out on other threads with no luck. If anyone has a link that would be great don't mind reading or if you have a quick answer that would be appreciated as always.
Thanks
S
You can try, but don't forget the 12 month rule which they've been cracking down on recently.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: businessmachine on March 12, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
Hiya folks,
Think I am a bit confused, Just got 2k points for keeping my SPG open and paying the $65. Can/Should I apply for another SPG card for the 25k points? should i wait until the 2k points post and close then reapply. Tried to find this out on other threads with no luck. If anyone has a link that would be great don't mind reading or if you have a quick answer that would be appreciated as always.
Thanks
S

I don't think that you will get the bonus a second time. Amex began enforcing their T&Cs and if you have/had the card open within a year of new application you will NOT get bonus. Some have slipped through but its looking bad for many...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: spetropo on March 12, 2013, 10:40:15 AM
Thanks :( Guess I will be glad for the 2k points
S
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: businessmachine on March 12, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
Thanks :( Guess I will be glad for the 2k points
S

Definitely- just take what you can get :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Drago on March 12, 2013, 11:12:22 AM
Definitely- just take what you can get :)
Or cancel to restart the 12 month clock.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: DoGo on March 18, 2013, 11:49:02 AM
You can try, but don't forget the 12 month rule which they've been cracking down on recently.
So is it 12 months from the opening of the card or the closing??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Red on March 18, 2013, 11:52:18 AM
So is it 12 months from the opening of the card or the closing??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: compddd on March 18, 2013, 11:14:26 PM
It's confirmed as closing?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: MEIR613 on March 19, 2013, 07:39:11 AM
It's confirmed as closing?
It always was.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: heshy5601 on March 19, 2013, 05:29:11 PM
I don't think that you will get the bonus a second time. Amex began enforcing their T&Cs and if you have/had the card open within a year of new application you will NOT get bonus. Some have slipped through but its looking bad for many...
Is that only for the spg' or all amex cards u gotte wait now 12 months?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: SLP on April 13, 2013, 10:13:42 PM
I've had the SPG since July 2010. Would I be able to get the signup bonus again if I don't include my SPG # on the app? Should I downgrade my current card first? Or am I out of luck because of the 12 month rule?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on April 13, 2013, 10:44:02 PM
I've had the SPG since July 2010. Would I be able to get the signup bonus again if I don't include my SPG # on the app? Should I downgrade my current card first? Or am I out of luck because of the 12 month rule?
If it's a personal, do a biz; if biz, do a personal.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Marco Polo on April 17, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
I just got approved for a second SPG card. Will it not give me the bonus since i have another card (i did not enter my SPG#)?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: noturbizniss on April 17, 2013, 01:01:20 PM
I just got approved for a second SPG card. Will it not give me the bonus since i have another card (i did not enter my SPG#)?
YMMV. Dan has gotten multiples. Is it a second biz/personal or is it a different class than the first?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Matovu on April 17, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
I just got approved for a second SPG card. Will it not give me the bonus since i have another card (i did not enter my SPG#)?

I have 2 Personal and 1 Business SPG card
when i applied for my Second Personal I also did not give my SPG number
But NEVER got additional bonus points.

as everyone knows this is YMMV
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bem684 on May 03, 2013, 10:42:06 AM
I just got approved for a second SPG card. Will it not give me the bonus since i have another card (i did not enter my SPG#)?

Mazal Tov on your approval :)

I had 3 personal SPG open last year at the same time and got bonus on all three (to be clear - they were OPEN at the same time but not OPENED at the same time).  My wife had one open and when she applied for a second (last fall) she got the card and spent the money, but was denied the bonus.  It seems like around that time they got much more serious enforcing the requirment that you may not get the bonus if you had the same product active within the past 12 months.  I think before fall 2012 the chances were much higher you could get the bonus without closing the card and waiting a whole year.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Marco Polo on May 03, 2013, 10:43:33 AM
Mazal Tov on your approval :)

I had 3 personal SPG open last year at the same time and got bonus on all three (to be clear - they were OPEN at the same time but not OPENED at the same time).  My wife had one open and when she applied for a second (last fall) she got the card and spent the money, but was denied the bonus.  It seems like around that time they got much more serious enforcing the requirment that you may not get the bonus if you had the same product active within the past 12 months.  I think before fall 2012 the chances were much higher you could get the bonus without closing the card and waiting a whole year.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bem684 on May 03, 2013, 10:45:58 AM
I'm thinking about applying for the SPG business card.  The only other business card I've ever had is Ink Bold.  I had to answer two phone calls from Chase to explain about my business, including revenue and expenses, profit, monthly spending etc.  Then it took another two weeks to get the approval.  Will I have to jump through these hoops with Amex too?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: noturbizniss on May 03, 2013, 11:02:09 AM
I'm thinking about applying for the SPG business card.  The only other business card I've ever had is Ink Bold.  I had to answer two phone calls from Chase to explain about my business, including revenue and expenses, profit, monthly spending etc.  Then it took another two weeks to get the approval.  Will I have to jump through these hoops with Amex too?
IME Chase is more thorough in questioning for business cards. I've been approved with much more ease for Amex business cards. Even with HUCA they don't question much.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 03, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
IME Chase is more thorough in questioning for business cards. I've been approved with much more ease for Amex business cards. Even with HUCA they don't question much.
+1
Title: Churning Amex Spg
Post by: listen2learn on May 21, 2013, 11:02:39 AM
Hey,

I am relatively new to this forum so I'll keep it as short and clear as possible.

I signed up for my first Amex spg card 3 months ago, I am almost done completing the threshold for 25k points.

I wanted to know what I should do after I complete the threshold to churn another card? I was told different things: One, that I can only sign up for 1 spg a year and another that I could get away with maybe 2-3 a year.

I am really looking to up my game with hotel cards :)

Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.



Title: Re: Churning Amex Spg
Post by: Shmulyg on May 21, 2013, 01:34:57 PM
Hey,

I am relatively new to this forum so I'll keep it as short and clear as possible.

I signed up for my first Amex spg card 3 months ago, I am almost done completing the threshold for 25k points.

I wanted to know what I should do after I complete the threshold to churn another card? I was told different things: One, that I can only sign up for 1 spg a year and another that I could get away with maybe 2-3 a year.

I am really looking to up my game with hotel cards :)

Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.
You only receive the sign-up bonus if you didn't have the card within the last 12 months. Business and personal don't overlap.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 07:18:18 PM
Thanks Shmulyg,

So I am going to consolidate the credit line of my spg after the points clear onto another amex card and sign up for the spg business and a few other cards with a 2 or 3 bm. Would that be the preferred method?

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: EMES on May 22, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
IME Chase is more thorough in questioning for business cards. I've been approved with much more ease for Amex business cards. Even with HUCA they don't question much.
Got denied on amex no banker all they said was it will be sent in for reconsideration , I thinks chase is better i get to speak to a bank and sell them your story
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
Thanks Shmulyg,

So I am going to consolidate the credit line of my spg after the points clear onto another amex card
Amex doesn't let you shift credit lines until your card is 13 months old.

and sign up for the spg business and a few other cards with a 2 or 3 bm. Would that be the preferred method?
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: EMES on May 22, 2013, 07:34:41 PM
Amex doesn't let you shift credit lines until your card is 13 months old.
Sounds good.
dont think a 3bm works for amex they only allow 2 app at once
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 07:44:14 PM
Amex doesn't let you shift credit lines until your card is 13 months old.
Sounds good.

Oh interesting, so just close it then huh? Which reminds me, how much total credit should a person hold? (I.e Someone who is 40 and makes 60k a year could have 100k total credit? What is the ratio before a F/R?

Awesome!

dont think a 3bm works for amex they only allow 2 app at once

Thanks for the heads up, 2bm it is :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 07:44:47 PM
dont think a 3bm works for amex they only allow 2 app at once
-1
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 07:47:16 PM
Oh interesting, so just close it then huh? Which reminds me, how much total credit should a person hold? (I.e Someone who is 40 and makes 60k a year could have 100k total credit? What is the ratio before a F/R?
Not sure about an F/R, but 60k income with 100k CL makes you susceptible to a Chase A/A.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: EMES on May 22, 2013, 07:49:20 PM
-1
have I ever tried ? -1 just did I 2 night ago 1 was auto canceled
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 07:53:34 PM
have I ever tried ? -1 just did I 2 night ago 1 was auto canceled
So?...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: EMES on May 22, 2013, 07:55:35 PM
So?...
so i came to the conclusion ( confirmed ) that a 3bm doesn't work
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
Not sure about an F/R, but 60k income with 100k CL makes you susceptible to a Chase A/A.

Thanks Shumlyg, great information.

I was wondering because I am 23, 4 years of working history, a CL of 48k, and a utilization of $3-$5k max but never extending past statement closing dates. However, I am starting to think that if I keep consolidating cards I would have to much credit, is this a valid concern?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: bem684 on May 22, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
Thanks Shumlyg, great information.

I was wondering because I am 23, 4 years of working history, a CL of 48k, and a utilization of $3-$5k max but never extending past statement closing dates. However, I am starting to think that if I keep consolidating cards I would have to much credit, is this a valid concern?

In my experience, they will stop giving you credit at some point unless you report more income.  I hit the cap like 1.5 years ago and I just shuffle around whatever credit I have when I close/open cards.  Although I started a new job with a higher salary so maybe I can get some new credit now hehe...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 08:08:26 PM
Thanks Shumlyg, great information.

I was wondering because I am 23, 4 years of working history, a CL of 48k, and a utilization of $3-$5k max but never extending past statement closing dates. However, I am starting to think that if I keep consolidating cards I would have to much credit, is this a valid concern?
It all depends on what you report to Chase as your annual income.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 08:11:51 PM
It all depends on what you report to Chase as your annual income.

I have been reporting $40k to all banks. Is Chase more harsh then Amex on Financial Reviews?






Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 08:13:23 PM
so i came to the conclusion ( confirmed ) that a 3bm doesn't work
::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 08:15:31 PM
I have been reporting $40k to all banks. Is Chase more harsh then Amex on Financial Reviews?
A high CL to income ratio is not a reported FR trigger, AFAIK.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 08:30:31 PM
In my experience, they will stop giving you credit at some point unless you report more income.  I hit the cap like 1.5 years ago and I just shuffle around whatever credit I have when I close/open cards.  Although I started a new job with a higher salary so maybe I can get some new credit now hehe...

A high CL to income ratio is not a reported FR trigger, AFAIK.

Nice! Thanks for all the info!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Zevwolf on May 22, 2013, 08:32:57 PM
Does chase look at other credit lines that i have with other banks?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 08:36:33 PM
Does chase look at other credit lines that i have with other banks?
Yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Zevwolf on May 22, 2013, 09:15:18 PM
What the ratio that is permitted?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 09:32:54 PM
What the ratio that is permitted?
Don't have exact numbers. And it's only a possible trigger. Nothing's for sure.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
So I am going to sign up for the Spg business. I was wondering if instead of closing my consumer spg (To hopefully be able to sign up for it again soon) if I can upgrade it to a higher card that's beneficial for me for hotels. Or simply close it and work to up the spg business in the future to say platinum for the hotel benefits.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 09:46:40 PM
So I am going to sign up for the Spg business. I was wondering if instead of closing my consumer spg (To hopefully be able to sign up for it again soon) if I can upgrade it to a higher card that's beneficial for me for hotels. Or simply close it and work to up the spg business in the future to say platinum for the hotel benefits.
I don't think you can upgrade an SPG to a Plat.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 10:02:37 PM
I don't think you can upgrade an SPG to a Plat.

Do you know of any upgrades I could do?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: judahk88 on May 22, 2013, 10:05:07 PM
Do you know of any upgrades I could do?
There is no reason to upgrade a Starwood card
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 10:31:56 PM
There is no reason to upgrade a Starwood card

Cool

So best option for me to churn my spg consumer is to close it.

Awesome thanks.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: Shmulyg on May 22, 2013, 10:43:52 PM
Cool

So best option for me to churn my spg consumer is to close it.

Awesome thanks.
I see you really do listen2learn :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: listen2learn on May 22, 2013, 10:57:55 PM
I see you really do listen2learn :)

Hahah thanks, sometimes my curiosity gets the best of me so I made a username to remember to keep in check.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX
Post by: DGMW on June 03, 2013, 12:36:29 PM
I'm not familiar with all these threads, I hope I'm asking in the right place...
What's the value for Starwood points now? (about 50k) TIA
Title: Cancelling SPG card
Post by: asks on June 10, 2013, 09:36:57 AM
Does cancelling SPG card = forfeit SPG points in the account?
Title: Re: Cancelling SPG card
Post by: CountValentine on June 10, 2013, 09:39:27 AM
No and thanks for starting a new thread to ask this question.  :)
Title: Re: Cancelling SPG card
Post by: asks on June 10, 2013, 09:41:29 AM
No and thanks for starting a new thread to ask this question.  :)
thank for the info and I figured I would get that response about new thread. 

I would be happy to add this info to a wiki if one exists on the topic already
Title: Re: Cancelling SPG card
Post by: real-brisker on June 10, 2013, 09:41:34 AM
Your Welcome, anytime
Title: Re: Cancelling SPG card
Post by: Moshe123 on June 10, 2013, 10:20:56 AM
Time for a "Cancelling Cards" master thread.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on July 05, 2013, 06:08:28 PM
There's about 100 threads where this can possibly be posted, simple question, after reading up on spg churn is seem like spg isn't a churnable card (besides for every 12+ months) I was just trying to figure out how people get way over 150k spg points, Is that just from spending that was done on the card? Or am I missing something?thanx
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 05, 2013, 07:13:05 PM
Business and personal for both spouses and spending. 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: cozmohoot on July 06, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
Mile brokers only buy in multiple of 20k spg points, what can u do with 12k I have left over? I'm not a big travel person. Tia
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Deal Guy on July 07, 2013, 02:13:50 AM
Mile brokers only buy in multiple of 20k spg points, what can u do with 12k I have left over? I'm not a big travel person. Tia
im assuming they will also buy the 12k at a lesser rate?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: cozmohoot on July 07, 2013, 10:00:37 AM
im assuming they will also buy the 12k at a lesser rate?
No. They only buy in intervals of 20k
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Racer7400 on July 07, 2013, 10:22:14 AM
No. They only buy in intervals of 20k
-1 I got a quote for 30k for $450. But I do agree that most do only buy in intervals of 20k
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: cozmohoot on July 07, 2013, 06:11:07 PM
Is there a way to easily cash them out without selling them.? Besides from hotels etc.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on July 07, 2013, 06:35:57 PM
Need to apply for my wife personal and business , is there any point in waiting to see if the bonuses get bigger ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 07, 2013, 09:33:48 PM
They get as high as 30K, often in late summer.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 07, 2013, 10:00:41 PM
Is there a way to easily cash them out without selling them.? Besides from hotels etc.

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/redeem/partners/detail.html?IndustryType=MERCHANDISE&PartnerCode=AMAZON (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/redeem/partners/detail.html?IndustryType=MERCHANDISE&PartnerCode=AMAZON)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: cozmohoot on July 07, 2013, 10:20:16 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: listen2learn on July 08, 2013, 10:55:09 AM
They get as high as 30K, often in late summer.
\

Awesome, I can't wait for that deal.

I have a consumer spg I got around 6 months ago. I don't know what to do at this point to get another spg. Go with Sole Prop? Upgrade spg to another card, I know spg can't be churned within a year. Any ideas DDF?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: PraiseCanada on July 08, 2013, 09:44:49 PM
FYI

AMEX Canada is offering a 20,000 Point signup bonus for new Starwood Cards (https://www.americanexpress.com/canada/en/mgm/mgmeeApplynow.cgi?mgmerCard=starWGCreditCard&CPID=999999371&MGM_URN=AAAAEgAfGhAfCw%3D%3D)! This happens once or twice a year.

As a thank you, PM me so I can refer you.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: goals^n^dreams on July 09, 2013, 08:02:02 PM
when is 30,000 bonus available again?  :)
Title: AMEX Starwood Open Close Open
Post by: AbisselSlow on July 09, 2013, 08:31:10 PM
Hiya,

If I open an AMEX Starwood card, get the free points and first year free, then open one for my spouse 12 months later, transfer the points, and close the first one, and so on for the rest time,

1. Will we get 25K points every year, and avoid the annual fee?

2. Will there be significant damage to our credit?

Title: Re: AMEX Starwood Open Close Open
Post by: itsyehuda on July 09, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
Hiya,

If I open an AMEX Starwood card, get the free points and first year free, then open one for my spouse 12 months later, transfer the points, and close the first one, and so on for the rest time,

1. Will we get 25K points every year, and avoid the annual fee?

2. Will there be significant damage to our credit?

You can open one for your spouse at the same time as you do your own. Your spouse is a person in his/her own right, and can get credit products separately from you.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on July 09, 2013, 10:34:21 PM

You can open one for your spouse at the same time as you do your own. Your spouse is a person in his/her own right, and can get credit products separately from you.

AMEX doesn't hold ishto kgufo?!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 10, 2013, 12:46:58 AM

AMEX doesn't hold ishto kgufo?!

That's why you get to use the points :P
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AbisselSlow on July 11, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
A groyser yasher koach!

The point was to avoid the annual fee, whilst having an active AMEX Starwoods card throughout.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on July 11, 2013, 06:37:19 PM
How do you see your pending spg points
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sima on July 12, 2013, 11:57:20 AM
hi. i opened a starwood card in november. what am i supposed to do? close it now and then wait a year to reapply or a year from opening the account?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nocknock on July 12, 2013, 02:05:01 PM
Could you combine starwood points from 1 acct 2 another?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Red on July 13, 2013, 03:18:31 PM
Could you combine starwood points from 1 acct 2 another?
Officially only if you live at the same address.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: easy48 on July 14, 2013, 10:08:35 PM
How does one sell starwood points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on July 14, 2013, 11:31:59 PM
Anyone have any idea when or if the 30k signup bonus is coming back for 2013?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sima on July 15, 2013, 08:02:40 AM
doe the option of reopening an amex card and getting the bonus again appy to once ayear feom opening or from closing
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: peace123 on July 15, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
wife closed her  2 amex cards i think 12 months ago  because of the FR, she applied for the Starwood personal card 2 days ago and showed pending. When she called reconsideration line, she was told another dept is reviewing the APP.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bem684 on July 15, 2013, 08:54:04 AM
doe the option of reopening an amex card and getting the bonus again appy to once ayear feom opening or from closing

closing
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on July 15, 2013, 04:26:40 PM
When transferring spg points from some else's account do you need the same last name or just the address is enough
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 16, 2013, 12:20:56 AM

When transferring spg points from some else's account do you need the same last name or just the address is enough

I believe the address is enough. Has to be same address for at least 30 days.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Uncle Mike on July 17, 2013, 07:13:44 PM
My wife got approved today, I got declined :( any ideas. I called they said too many requests for credit recently, and I don't have any credit with them to move over.
Also I wanted them to expedite it as I'm going on vacay soon they said they can't since I applied online any ideas?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on July 18, 2013, 02:15:15 PM
So when my wife applied for her AMEX SPG card, she used my SPG account # in the app, and her points are being deposited in there ever since, however, I still don't have my own SPG credit card, all my points are from hotel stays only, but I'd like to apply for my own 2 SPG cards this summer (Biz and Personal)

Do you think I'll have any issues using again the same (my) SPG account # ?

Do any of you use 1 account for husband and wife? (some benefits to it)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on July 18, 2013, 02:48:10 PM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Red on July 18, 2013, 03:05:07 PM
Anyone?
Wow, you waited a whole 1/2 hour and no one answered you yet?!  ::)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on July 18, 2013, 03:24:51 PM
Wow, you waited a whole 1/2 hour and no one answered you yet?!  ::)

Be gentle or we will have another one of these.....

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=30811.0
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on July 18, 2013, 04:25:28 PM
1) Is there anyway to get the annual fee waived ($65)?
2) My credit limit is $10K and they told me over the phone I can go over the limit no problems. I have gone as high as $20k never had any problems. I had to wait 6 months to ask for a credit  increase, and when I did they denied me because I have "continuously gone over the limit"? This doesn't even make sense. Any suggestions?
Thank You
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on July 18, 2013, 04:54:49 PM
1) Is there anyway to get the annual fee waived ($65)?
2) My credit limit is $10K and they told me over the phone I can go over the limit no problems. I have gone as high as $20k never had any problems. I had to wait 6 months to ask for a credit  increase, and when I did they denied me because I have "continuously gone over the limit"? This doesn't even make sense. Any suggestions?
Thank You

Was there a hard pull for that?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on July 19, 2013, 05:31:03 PM
I have 65K Starpoints, can anyone tell me which airline to transfer them to to get the most for my money? (Searched it and couldn't find anyone discussing it) Thanks!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on July 19, 2013, 05:58:48 PM
Are you looking to fly somewhere?
If yes, you'd need to be more specific.
Looking to sell them? No immediate travel plans? Looking to stay in aspirational hotels?
Leave it as SPG points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: windcloud5 on July 20, 2013, 03:44:00 AM
So when my wife applied for her AMEX SPG card, she used my SPG account # in the app, and her points are being deposited in there ever since, however, I still don't have my own SPG credit card, all my points are from hotel stays only, but I'd like to apply for my own 2 SPG cards this summer (Biz and Personal)

Do you think I'll have any issues using again the same (my) SPG account # ?

Do any of you use 1 account for husband and wife? (some benefits to it)

Attaching one reward # to multiple creditcards only work for a handful of creditcards.  I tried attaching one Hhonor # to 2 Amex Hiltons, it worked for the first 2 weeks after I got the card.  Then Amex's website caught it and automatically removed the association between the second cc and the reward #.
After that happened, I sent Amex a secure message to have them attached the second CC to the correct Hhonors #. 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on July 21, 2013, 01:11:35 AM
Are you looking to fly somewhere?
If yes, you'd need to be more specific.
Looking to sell them? No immediate travel plans? Looking to stay in aspirational hotels?
Leave it as SPG points.
No immediate travel, would like to possibly sell them.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bem684 on July 21, 2013, 10:14:03 AM
No immediate travel, would like to possibly sell them.

If you're looking to sell them you'll probably get more by leaving them as starwood points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on July 21, 2013, 11:13:11 AM
If you're looking to sell them you'll probably get more by leaving them as starwood points.
Really? I've only got offers up to 1.5 I thought I would be able to get more. :(
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bem684 on July 23, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
Really? I've only got offers up to 1.5 I thought I would be able to get more. :(

I'm not certain what the market is like right now.  I know I've gotten a lot higher than 1.5 in the past though.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shreknit on July 23, 2013, 08:57:30 AM
I'm not certain what the market is like right now.  I know I've gotten a lot higher than 1.5 in the past though.

Depending how many usually 1.7 -1.8
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: churnbabychurn on July 23, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
Depending how many usually 1.7 -1.8
Annual fee posted. What's the best way to get a retention bonus, Calling or SM?
And do I have to request the retention before paying the fee? its due ...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on July 23, 2013, 09:30:54 AM
Annual fee just posted. What's the best way to get a retention bonus, Calling or SM?


Try both . Call first and if they say anything in Sm you forgot.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on July 31, 2013, 04:00:01 PM
Any indications for a 30k offer this summer?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on August 01, 2013, 03:02:41 PM
Any indications for a 30k offer this summer?

There is an add I just saw on FT right now for the 30k Starwood...When I click on the link though the bonus information is not 30k...

This is the add link before it switches to the amex page:

http://ad.doubleclick.net/click;h=v8/3e31/0/0/%2a/n;273863332;0-0;0;99908171;3454-728/90;55408703/55292950/1;;~okv=;pc=[TPAS_ID];;~sscs=%3fhttps://www304.americanexpress.com/personal-card-application/starwood-preferred-credit-card/40520-10-0

Only even shows me the offer on a cleared browser
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: frozy on August 01, 2013, 04:25:23 PM
Did you try with other browsers?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on August 01, 2013, 04:28:57 PM
Did you try with other browsers?

yes. No luck. I really think it was an advertising mistake (maybe because it is going to be bumped up shortly?)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: frozy on August 01, 2013, 04:31:23 PM
yes. No luck. I really think it was an advertising mistake (maybe because it is going to be bumped up shortly?)

Guess so.  I also saw it before...now it's back to 25k:
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on August 01, 2013, 04:33:41 PM
I just got the picture again. Using google chrome incognito.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 02, 2013, 01:24:17 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/33212
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 05, 2013, 12:57:59 AM
May I have some guidance, please.

I am getting ready to pull a 2 or 3BM just as soon as the highly anticipated Starwood extra bonus goes live. Can someone just answer briefly:

1) Already having Starwood business won't prevent me from getting the bonus on the consumer version, right?
2) If I have a Green Card, can I get a signb-up bonus from another charge card? Or is that just considered an upgrade of the same card?
3) My Green is 22 years old! I should be able to backdate any other Amex card (charge or credit) to that date, yes?
4) What other Amex card(s) should I go for at the same time as the Starwood consumer?

Thanks, guys! May Hashem enlighten you for sharing your wisdom!

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: montey on August 05, 2013, 12:58:13 AM
I signed up for two SPG personal (me, wife) and one SPG Biz a few months ago. Hit the 5000 spend and was wondering why my points weren't turning up. Signed up using Dan's link on top of the main page. They PM'd me back saying that they don't see anything like that on my file. Said they are going to investigate, etc., asked for a screenshot of the offer.

Has this happened to anyone? What to do? (PS I don't have a screenshot)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: menachem_m on August 05, 2013, 01:47:51 AM
I signed up for two SPG personal (me, wife) and one SPG Biz a few months ago. Hit the 5000 spend and was wondering why my points weren't turning up. Signed up using Dan's link on top of the main page. They PM'd me back saying that they don't see anything like that on my file. Said they are going to investigate, etc., asked for a screenshot of the offer.

Has this happened to anyone? What to do? (PS I don't have a screenshot)
How did you miss it straight away when the 10k didn't show up?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: montey on August 05, 2013, 02:31:43 AM
Got the 10k just not subsequent bonus
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mochada on August 05, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
...and after all the warnings- the 30k Card is Back.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on August 05, 2013, 10:38:06 AM
May I have some guidance, please.

I am getting ready to pull a 2 or 3BM just as soon as the highly anticipated Starwood extra bonus goes live. Can someone just answer briefly:

1) Already having Starwood business won't prevent me from getting the bonus on the consumer version, right?...
Right!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Gus on August 05, 2013, 10:52:49 AM
I signed up for two SPG personal (me, wife) and one SPG Biz a few months ago. Hit the 5000 spend and was wondering why my points weren't turning up. Signed up using Dan's link on top of the main page. They PM'd me back saying that they don't see anything like that on my file. Said they are going to investigate, etc., asked for a screenshot of the offer.

Has this happened to anyone? What to do? (PS I don't have a screenshot)

I had a similar problem.  The outcome was that Amex had opened a new (placeholder?) Starwood number for me and placed the points there.  You might check your Amex account online to see if the Starwood number is correct.
Title: Amex SPG 30,000 offer will be back tomorrow
Post by: AAFlyer on August 05, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
I just received an early invitation to apply for the card today. The email says the offer will be available to the public tomorrow, and it will expire September 3rd. The offer states that you will get 10,000 points after your first purchase, and an additional 20,000 after spending 5,000 within the first 6 months of being a card member.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: montey on August 05, 2013, 11:49:51 AM
I had a similar problem.  The outcome was that Amex had opened a new (placeholder?) Starwood number for me and placed the points there.  You might check your Amex account online to see if the Starwood number is correct.

I have a points balance from my initial bonus and spending, where should I look for the misplaced secondary bonus points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Gus on August 05, 2013, 12:15:31 PM
I have a points balance from my initial bonus and spending, where should I look for the misplaced secondary bonus points?

Sorry - Your situation sounds somewhat different.  Starwood customer service was able to find the new Starpoints account and merge it by searching for accounts with my email address attached.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dovy2 on August 05, 2013, 12:57:19 PM
30k offer alive now. Just got email..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 05, 2013, 01:01:49 PM
30k offer alive now. Just got email..
For everyone or only by invitation?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2013, 01:07:11 PM
When I have a public link I'll definitely make an update.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 05, 2013, 01:12:13 PM
When I have a public link I'll definitely make an update.
Thanks! Just called to get matched as I just opened mine 2 weeks ago, the rep gave me 3K courtesy points, is that good?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bem684 on August 05, 2013, 01:59:53 PM
Thanks! Just called to get matched as I just opened mine 2 weeks ago, the rep gave me 3K courtesy points, is that good?

That's great.  Now try SMing for the match and if they agree you'll get matched AND 3k points bonus.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on August 05, 2013, 03:22:28 PM
business link? Any way Dan can get credit for this?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on August 05, 2013, 03:23:00 PM
Just found this link - https://www262.americanexpress.com/apisites/microsite/apply/starwood-dynamic-preferred-guest-card/95-1000-478

Have fun

THANK YOU was just approved for the 30k bonus :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2013, 03:25:52 PM
business link? Any way Dan can get credit for this?
I'll have links for both very shortly.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 05, 2013, 03:27:08 PM
business link? Any way Dan can get credit for this?

Was just posting for the mean while.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on August 05, 2013, 03:28:33 PM
Just wanted to pipe in that its only fair for people to wait until Dan posts the link so he can get credit for it. Its his site & work after all.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 05, 2013, 03:31:26 PM
Just wanted to pipe in that its only fair for people to wait until Dan posts the link so he can get credit for it. Its his site & work after all.

+1, true, I didn't mean to take away a mans good benefit, I deleted my post.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Maaritz on August 05, 2013, 04:03:56 PM
Indeed. Dan is the reason I waited to apply. Was going to do it a few days ago.

To quickly prepare myself, though: if one's house is in order, he or she should apply for both personal and business on the same day to have only one hard pull, correct?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Yeki89 on August 05, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
30k offer alive now. Just got email..
I got email also, it mention it will be public tom
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 05, 2013, 05:05:35 PM
I hope the SPG refer link from Amex also updates to the 30k offer
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubbles on August 05, 2013, 05:35:48 PM
I hope the SPG refer link from Amex also updates to the 30k offer

You are referring to the program that ended ages ago? Or did they restart it without telling me  :D
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 05, 2013, 05:42:11 PM
You are referring to the program that ended ages ago? Or did they restart it without telling me  :D
It looks active to me, Haven't tested it but I will as soon as SPG goes 30k
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 05, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
As I asked last night, what other Amex consumer cards should I go for on a 2 or 3bm when I go for my new SPG?
I want to stock up on Amex cards b/c of the backdating. My Green Card is 22 years old! It is my only active consumer card with Amex. I have two business cards with the but that is irrelevant to my question. Any guidance? I want to pounce on this 30k SPG deal.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2013, 06:14:40 PM
Why only consumer cards?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Mordy2 on August 05, 2013, 09:49:59 PM
Got this email today:
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shreknit on August 05, 2013, 09:56:00 PM
I hope the SPG refer link from Amex also updates to the 30k offer

Was wondering about that as well.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
I applied for the spg about two weeks ago, will i be able to get amex to match the offer if i call?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:03:16 PM
Sorry just saw the earlier post  :-[
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:14:40 PM
Just called the cs and the rep said that since the public offer is only 25k she can't give me anything better than what i signed up for. I guess huaca...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:19:05 PM
Just got the same rep, wat r the odds??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on August 05, 2013, 10:21:24 PM
Just called the cs and the rep said that since the public offer is only 25k she can't give me anything better than what i signed up for. I guess huaca...

Then why don't you wait till tomorrow?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:26:18 PM
Wanna try to get the 3 k points mentioned above by super speed  8)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:34:37 PM
And i got it  ;D, had to spk w a supervisor and she gave it to me right away np.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 05, 2013, 10:34:44 PM
That's great.  Now try SMing for the match and if they agree you'll get matched AND 3k points bonus.
I'm a little slow at this but can someone help me and tell me how to SM Amex?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:42:26 PM
Left side of your amex acct homepage is a link, need help? Contact us. Click on that then click on the blue envelope.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 05, 2013, 10:45:07 PM
 
Then why don't you wait till tomorrow?
That's great.  Now try SMing for the match and if they agree you'll get matched AND 3k points

I think i'll wait till tomorrow to do that.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 05, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
Why only consumer cards?

I guess I should have made that more clear. Business cards won't show up on my credit report. I want more Amex consumer cards because I have a Green Card that is 22 years old. The backdating will be awesome for me! That's why.

So, any other nice Amex consumer cards to go for? Or just get SPG by itself? Feels funny doing a "1MB" after having been initiated in the ways of DDF.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smiley face on August 05, 2013, 11:23:25 PM
Would I be able to close my SPG card and re-apply?
Or is it the same policy as regular AMEX cards, the 12 month rule?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 06, 2013, 12:20:05 AM
What will Amex let me convert my SPG to for a no-AF card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 06, 2013, 02:47:54 AM
I signed up for my Starwood business card back in mid-April. I just went to SM Amex to try to get bumped up to the new 30k deal.
Funny thing happened. I see a notice that starting Aug 30, there will be all chats, no emails. I took a mental note of it and proceeded to start my SM. After filling out a few fields, it automatically brought me to live chat.

Anyway, sounds like you will now have to brush up on your chatting skills with Amex.

Here's the report of my chat tonight with "Amond."

At first he said that there was nothing he could do. But I told him I am a cardholder for 22 years. Then I start sweet talking him, telling him how nice they are at Amex. Suddenly, he says I should hold on. A security question pops up on my screen (mother's maiden name.)

After five minutes of very little activity, he offers me 1,000. I say thank you so much but can you do better? He says, nope, that's the best we can do. I said thanks, and I took the 1,000.

All in all, I can't complain. I got the card over three months ago.  :)

See the attached screenshot for my dopey conversation.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 02:51:35 AM
30K Consumer Link: http://www.dansdeals.com/go/starwood/

Business is not yet live.
Title: Starwood 30K
Post by: seven111 on August 06, 2013, 07:07:50 AM
It seems the Starwoods 30k promo is live. Has anyone previously gotten matched for an AMEX promo?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 08:50:08 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/33270
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: elibeli2 on August 06, 2013, 09:01:00 AM
Is the referral deal where you get 5k points for referring someone alive?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: zek on August 06, 2013, 09:01:52 AM
Went through most of this thread.. Can someone explain what is so great about this card?
Conversion to airlines is still less than most airline card signup bonuses. Hotel usage looks like it will net maybe 1 night at a top tier hotel. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 06, 2013, 09:49:42 AM
Is the referral deal where you get 5k points for referring someone alive?

Been dead since late 2012
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 06, 2013, 10:09:40 AM
Has anyone been able to change their personal SPG to a Bluecash or Costco True Earnings?

I don't want to lose the credit line.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 10:17:25 AM
Has anyone been able to change their personal SPG to a Bluecash or Costco True Earnings?

I don't want to lose the credit line.
So just shift the credit line.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 06, 2013, 10:20:26 AM
So just shift the credit line.

I only have 1 Amex card, my SPG. What am I supposed to shift it too? I want to apply for the SPG Business using your link.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubbles on August 06, 2013, 11:12:50 AM
Has anyone been able to change their personal SPG to a Bluecash or Costco True Earnings?

I don't want to lose the credit line.

IIRC you can downgrade to the blue cash
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hollawood24 on August 06, 2013, 11:15:20 AM
I was approved for the SPG about a month and a half ago. I couldn't believe i jumped the gun early on the 30k promo so i gave Amex a call just now. Got a nice lady named Carrey, who said she couldn't edit the promotion, but gave me 3k. Beggers can't be choosers so im ;D.

I always have that "never give up" attitude, thanks to Dan the Man.  8)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on August 06, 2013, 11:22:46 AM
Has anyone been able to change their personal SPG to a Bluecash or Costco True Earnings?
Yes I downgraded to Blue Cash everyday.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on August 06, 2013, 12:43:15 PM
Does leaving address blank still work (for 2nd personal spg card)?
Also, what does the 12 months go by (If address on SPG account changed a month ago). Current address or original address of SPG card?
Thanks...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 06, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
Did live chat just now and they let me change to Blue Cash Everyday. Needed to get that 12 month timer started for next years 30k offer.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 06, 2013, 03:29:05 PM
Just got another 1k, since they weren't able to give me the 30k bonus so now I'm at 29k, 1k more to go!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: tracyinca on August 06, 2013, 04:05:03 PM
I applied for both the personal and business versions of this card last year and got the bonus points on both.  I cancelled both cards recently to avoid the annual fee.  Can I reapply with a new SPG number and get the bonus again, or do I have to wait 12 months?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 06, 2013, 05:23:44 PM
Just got another 1k, since they weren't able to give me the 30k bonus so now I'm at 29k, 1k more to go!
How? U called or SM?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Moishel on August 06, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
I have SPG personal and business open right now, but I got an "exclusive" invitation by email to open cards for the 30K bonus on a different spg.com account number. Does that mean I can open with that account and get the bonuses even though I have cards open with them?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 06, 2013, 06:25:04 PM
I have SPG personal and business open right now, but I got an "exclusive" invitation by email to open cards for the 30K bonus on a different spg.com account number. Does that mean I can open with that account and get the bonuses even though I have cards open with them?

YMMV, it seems to work for Dan
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 06, 2013, 06:54:25 PM
I applied today for both the personal and business SPG cards, personal got approved instantly, called in for the Biz app and they told me the expected yada yada about it being a duplicated app and that I should give it 3 days,

Should I call again recon after 3 days or let them do what they do? my concern being if I call they might pull my report again or is that not true?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 06, 2013, 08:44:14 PM
How? U called or SM?
Called!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubbles on August 06, 2013, 08:47:30 PM
It looks active to me, Haven't tested it but I will as soon as SPG goes 30k

Mind sharing which program you are referring to?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shreknit on August 06, 2013, 08:48:54 PM
Mind sharing which program you are referring to?

There is no referral program as of now I called and chatted.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on August 06, 2013, 09:05:57 PM
Is there a limit of how many AU allowed on my amex spg? My credit limit isnt that high and already have 6, can I add on 2 more?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 07, 2013, 12:14:09 AM
Is there an advantage to having additional AU's?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 07, 2013, 12:15:50 AM
Mind sharing which program you are referring to?
I have posted the link here, but it was "mysteriously" deleted a second latter, go figure
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 07, 2013, 12:37:46 AM
Is there an advantage to having additional AU's?
Maybe only the fact that more people accumulate points for you, other then that, no
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: gloreglabert on August 07, 2013, 02:17:35 AM
I applied today for both the personal and business SPG cards, personal got approved instantly, called in for the Biz app and they told me the expected yada yada about it being a duplicated app and that I should give it 3 days,

Should I call again recon after 3 days or let them do what they do? my concern being if I call they might pull my report again or is that not true?
Yes, they might pull again.  If you really don't want them to, you can freeze your report, but that will result in an instant decline if they try to pull again.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on August 07, 2013, 05:32:13 AM
Maybe only the fact that more people accumulate points for you, other then that, no
You sure about that?
How about SBS?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mochada on August 07, 2013, 08:35:24 AM
Any recent experience doing 2bm/3bm which include SPG Personal & SPG Business- how many pulls on your credit?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2013, 10:07:21 AM
1 pull
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on August 07, 2013, 11:36:24 AM
Does leaving address blank still work (for 2nd personal spg card)?
Also, what does the 12 months go by (If address on SPG account changed a month ago). Current address or original address of SPG card?
Thanks...
Bump
And nice new pic Dan...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 07, 2013, 12:52:25 PM
1 pull
But you still had to wait 3-4 days, right? I did a 2bm for SPG biz and personal and they wouldn't hear about processing the Biz app now, I must wait a week, and something tells me that by then they will most certainly pull again
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 07, 2013, 09:29:20 PM
I know that if I want to apply for a second business and personal spg I have to create a new spg account under a different address, which address do I apply for the spg Amex under? Same as spg account or my present address(considering that I will use my parents address for the spg account)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jshelton on August 08, 2013, 12:25:49 AM
Hi,

I want to get the 30K offer for the business SPG card but I don't have documented income. I remember reading on dansdeals.com that getting the business one is risky because AMEX can ask for financials. I already have the spg consumer.

thanks,

Jeremy
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on August 08, 2013, 01:00:28 AM
Quote
Welcome to American Express Live Chat! The next available Customer Care Professional will be with you shortly.

For quality assurance, this chat may be recorded and monitored. For your security, please click “END CHAT X” to close this chat window before leaving your computer unattended or when chat is complete.
You are now chatting with Vivian.
you: hi good night
Vivian: Hi, welcome to American Express Chat. My name is Vivian. How can I help you today?
you: how are you?
Vivian: Hi!!
Vivian: I am good.
Vivian: Thanks
you: I actually just saw that a new 30.000 offer just came up
you: And i was upset i applied earlier for this card with just 25000 bonus points
you: is there anyway you could help me with that?
Vivian: Oh I am so sorry for that.. The promotional offers keeps on changing every now and then.. The promotion you are looking at is only for the new subscription starting Aug 01...
Vivian: The promotions can change any time.. It might could happened that instead of increase of 5K there could be a decrease of 5K...
Vivian: Because of that, we can not take back the points offered to you.. Correct?
Vivian: Hope that make sense.
you: I know you are 100 percent right but is there anything YOU could do about it? ;)
Vivian: I wish!!
Vivian: I am sorry, if there is any in future, we will be happy to get that matched up.
you: you cant even add me a few points as a good will?
you: could your supervisor assist me with that?
you: TY
Vivian: I tried before you asked me for GW points.. The system is not allowing now..

 :-[
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 08, 2013, 01:13:12 AM
:-[
Well, if the wink and the capital YOU didn't do it.....
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on August 08, 2013, 01:31:13 AM
Well, if the wink and the capital YOU didn't do it.....
I guess it is in there system.
I tried again no success :'( 
Quote
Welcome to American Express Live Chat! The next available Customer Care Professional will be with you shortly.

For quality assurance, this chat may be recorded and monitored. For your security, please click “END CHAT X” to close this chat window before leaving your computer unattended or when chat is complete.
You are now chatting with Amond.
Amond: Hi, welcome to American Express Chat. My name is Amond. How can I help you today?
you: Hi Amond
Amond: Hello!
you: How are you today?
Amond: I'm good, thank you for asking. Hope you're doing good as well!
you: Yes thanks g-d i am
you: I actually just saw that a new 30.000 offer just came up
you: And i was upset i applied earlier for this card with just 25000 bonus points
you: is there anyway YOU could help me with that?
Amond: Oh, I completely understand the situation where you just enrolled for a new card and got 25K points and the new promotion is for 30k, however, promotion offers keep on changing..
Amond: I’d definitely look into your account and see if anything can be done to match your card with the latest offer.
Amond: Am I chatting with A European?
you: yes you are
Amond: Thank you A European, To validate the account, I’d need to send you a few security questions, please submit the answer.
Amond:
The agent has sent you a secure form
Amond: Thank you!
you: YW
you: TY
Amond: Let me take a look. Please allow me a minute.
you: K
Amond: Thank you for your patience.
you: NP
Amond: I was checking your account and finding the way to match it with the latest promotion offer, but the promotion you had is different than the latest promotion offer and it’s not possible to change the offer now.
Amond: However, please do not disappoint because the offer you had is also a great offer, it’s just a difference of time you enrolled for the card and if today there is an offer for 30k points; there is also a possibility that tomorrow the offer will be for 20k points only or even less than that.
you: No GW points :(
Amond: I wish I could do that for you, but unfortunately that won't be possible.
you: Why?
Amond: I hope you understand, since both the promotion offers are different and the latest offer is only for the new enrollments.
you: What about good will points?
you: Just to satisfied a loyal customer?
Amond: I've already tried that as well, but it's not allowing me to give any good will points.
you: TY very much for all your help
Amond: You're most welcome.
you: would there maybe be a supervisor that would be able to help me?
Amond: Not possible A European, if that could have done, I did not take time to do that for you and bring a smile on your face.
you: thank you
Amond: You're welcome.
you: by the way are you located in Gurgaon?
you: north
Amond: Surprised! Yes, I am.
you: LOL
Amond: How do you know that?
Amond: Are you a magician or something! (just kidding)
you: I just chat'ed with your friend Vivian
you: almost lunch time
Amond: Oh! I see. Now I'm relaxed! (smile)
you: for you good morning
Amond: Yes it's 11:00 AM here right now.
you: (half smile)
you: ;)
Amond: I know, I hope I was able to make it huge, but it's just unfortunate for me.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 08, 2013, 01:36:41 AM
Awwww, Amond is such a sweetheart, but still couldn't pull it off  :-[
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on August 08, 2013, 01:44:06 AM
I guess it is in there system.
I tried again no success :'( 

Seriously?
You told the rep that you "did" HUCA?

What good could come out of that??

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on August 08, 2013, 01:58:13 AM

Seriously?
You told the rep that you "did" HUCA?

What good could come out of that??
1) I didn't tell him what I spoke to him about.

2) I don't think anything bad could come out of it.

3) If I didn't get the points at least let me have a nice conversation with him.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 08, 2013, 02:05:41 AM
As I posted the other night on this thread, I got Amond to give me 1,000 points. Then again, I am with Amex for 22 years.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on August 08, 2013, 02:10:28 AM
As I posted the other night on this thread, I got Amond to give me 1,000 points. Then again, I am with Amex for 22 years.
No luck with Amend even not a Huge :))
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mr. perfect on August 08, 2013, 06:21:59 AM
what's the deal with amex cards for people with no income on the books ? I want the starwoods and the spg biz .  Are there certain cards that are not a good idea
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 08, 2013, 09:24:17 AM
No luck with Amend even not a Huge :))
Try putac, I was able to get 3k from a supervisor that way. And Super Speed says he got 4k from them. All this even though ppl having a hard time w the chat.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on August 09, 2013, 11:13:56 AM
How/when are the points posted to my account, when I pay my bill or even when it's paid it won't post until I get my next bill?

#2
If I return something will I get points for the purchase ( probably not )?

#3
If I pay a part of my bill within the cycle will I get any points for the paid off part?

#4
If I pay my bill through chase bill pay ( or however it's called ) it posts to my account as a credit not as a payment, so would I get points for that amount being it's listed as credited back not as paid off?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: easy48 on August 09, 2013, 02:28:07 PM
I closed an SPG Amex account a while back, how do I find out if it has actually been 12 months so I can qualify for the card with the new bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on August 09, 2013, 02:44:42 PM
I closed an SPG Amex account a while back, how do I find out if it has actually been 12 months so I can qualify for the card with the new bonus?
Try this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21457.msg561198.msg#561198).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 09, 2013, 03:18:32 PM
As noted above, really hard to get anything from chatting with Amex reps. It seems that you have to putpac.
This was my experience with them today. (and of course no more SM, it directs you to chat. Tried a few times to get around it)

You are now chatting with Ash.
Ash: Hi, welcome to American Express Chat. My name is Ash. How can I help you today?
you: Hi there how are you doing?
Ash: I am doing good....How are you?
you: Doing pretty good, hope to be doing better real soon :)
Ash: Great!
Ash: How may I help?
you: I have the SPG card from Amex
you: When I signed up for it the offer was only for 25k starwood points with 5k in purchases over 6 mo
Ash: okay
you: Now Amex is offering 30 starwood points, I have been a loyal Amex customer, spend money every month w my amex cards and would like to be matched with the new promo offer
you: I only got the card a couple of weeks ago, mid July
you: Had I known to wait I could have waited 2 to 3 weeks and got the better offer
Ash: I am sorry...Promotions keep on changing on day to day basis...You'll receive points as per the promotion you receive your card
Ash: However, I understand that you wish to avail a better offer
Ash: Therefore, I would suggest you to call the number on the back of your Card
Ash: They'll assist you accordingly
you: ok, so there isn't anything you can do on your end? I have to actually call in?
Ash: I am sorry, all the marketing offers sent by American Express to its customers is purely on solicitation basis.
you: This offer is a public offer, it's on Amex main site
you: the 30k starpoints
Ash: I understand...but your Card was offered under a different promotion...
you: Both of which were public offers, not a special private offer.
Ash: We on our end will not be able to provide the better offer...
Ash: You can discuss about this over the phone
you: Ok thank you for your help Ash.
Ash: You are welcome
Ash: Have a good day
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on August 09, 2013, 03:46:29 PM
How/when are the points posted to my account, when I pay my bill or even when it's paid it won't post until I get my next bill?

#2
If I return something will I get points for the purchase ( probably not )?

#3
If I pay a part of my bill within the cycle will I get any points for the paid off part?

#4
If I pay my bill through chase bill pay ( or however it's called ) it posts to my account as a credit not as a payment, so would I get points for that amount being it's listed as credited back not as paid off?
Anyone on #3 and 4?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 09, 2013, 04:11:08 PM
I think all payments are posted as a credit and if you pay before billing cycle ends you should still get points, you spent the money. Only if the item is returned should the points be removed.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 10, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
I think all payments are posted as a credit and if you pay before billing cycle ends you should still get points, you spent the money. Only if the item is returned should the points be removed.

+1, I pay off my bills mid cycle and get points a few days later.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 10, 2013, 09:13:19 PM
I recently stayed in a Starwood hotel and was dissatisfied with the accommodations. I hadn't booked it with my SPG card, is there any chance I can get compensation in points on my SPG account?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on August 10, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
I recently stayed in a Starwood hotel and was dissatisfied with the accommodations. I hadn't booked it with my SPG card, is there any chance I can get compensation in points on my SPG account?
+1 I just got 5k for complaining westin las Vegas
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 10, 2013, 10:43:29 PM
+1, I pay off my bills mid cycle and get points a few days later.
That's right, you don't get the points to your acct until payment clears; so there is yet another benefit for paying early if you in a rush to get points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 11, 2013, 12:44:11 AM
+1 I just got 5k for complaining westin las Vegas
Thanks just got 3500 points!
3K from Amex and 500 from SPG. Should I try for more?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 11, 2013, 06:53:08 AM
I currently have citi dividends, freedom, and arrival
I'm thinking of doing a 2/3BM with amex.

I'm for sure considering Spg (consumer and biz) question is should the 3rd be a personal or biz and which one?

I tried for a biz with chase few months ago and was denied so bad luck so far. Not sure if 2 biz would be smart...

Should I just do 2BM  or do 3 (even tho I hear some ppl get apps canceled cuz of duplicates)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 12, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
Was trying to do a 3BM today...1 personal 2 business
When I click submit personal goes pending, and both business get an error message saying that the site is unavailable  >:(
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 12, 2013, 02:18:18 PM
I applied for both SPG cards (BIZ & PERS) in my last 3BM last week Tuesday, got approved instantly for the personal, and was approved today for the BIZ, with 2 pulls that is... I don't know how some of you here claim to get it both with one pull, that seems to be next to impossible
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 12, 2013, 02:47:24 PM
I decided to do my SPG as a 2BM with Delta Gold personal. I had both aps all filled out last night, everything ready to go, and at the last minute, AMEX site went down. "Please try later." UGH!

So, this morning, I try both again, fill out both aps. Get it all ready. I do Delta on Chrome. Boom. Instantly approved. Quick, run to Safari to hit submit with SPG (which was the main card I actually wanted) and I get that "site is down message, please try again later." UGH! Swiftly as a blood doping gazelle, I opened a new tab in Safari again, filled out a new SPG ap (yes Dan's affiliate ap) and got.... a pending.

I'm wondering if this screwed up my 2BM. Or does getting a pending always screw up the 2BM even if they both go through within seconds of each other? Or is it m'darf nisht zein azoy medakdek and it's fine that the two aps were within a couple minutes of each other?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 12, 2013, 02:51:53 PM
Pending doesn't automatically = 2 pulls.

Swiftly as a blood doping gazelle,
Nice simile  8)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 12, 2013, 07:49:42 PM
Was trying to do a 3BM today...1 personal 2 business
When I click submit personal goes pending, and both business get an error message saying that the site is unavailable  >:(
Got that also, just reapply, the second time I applied I got instant approval. It is weird though.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 12, 2013, 07:51:46 PM
kinda late for me no? i dont want a 2nd pull....
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 12, 2013, 08:39:21 PM
kinda late for me no? i dont want a 2nd pull....
I would assume it just didn't go through and maybe there was no pull. But I have no proof, sorry I was late😴
Unless its the same day.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 12, 2013, 09:26:44 PM
I would assume it just didn't go through and maybe there was no pull. But I have no proof, sorry I was late😴
Unless its the same day.

I mean to apply again
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: churnbabychurn on August 12, 2013, 10:14:58 PM
When downgrading SPG to a blue cash, what happens to the extra year warranty on purchases made with the SPG?
Also, does anything happen to Starwood points if no longer linked to an Amex card, do they expire?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 12, 2013, 10:48:01 PM
You can have starwood points w/o an amex card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: churnbabychurn on August 12, 2013, 11:21:22 PM
You can have starwood points w/o an amex card.
Do they ever expire?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 12, 2013, 11:58:56 PM
Do they ever expire?
Officially after 18 months of no use. In reality, however, IIRC Dan said they don't. CMIIW.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 13, 2013, 12:00:42 AM
When downgrading SPG to a blue cash, what happens to the extra year warranty on purchases made with the SPG?
I've been away from this forum for some time but last i read was that as long as you have an open Amex card you can claim the warranty.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 13, 2013, 12:07:30 AM
Officially after 18 months of no use. In reality, however, IIRC Dan said they don't. CMIIW.
Consider yourself corrected :P
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/30235
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 13, 2013, 12:20:09 AM
Consider yourself corrected :P
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/30235
Ya, must have only read the first half of the sentence.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Amusch on August 13, 2013, 01:45:27 AM
Has anyone (possibly only in NY?) tried switching from ConEd to Energy Plus for 7500 SPG points?
Did it work? Does it make a difference with the electricity?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: churnbabychurn on August 13, 2013, 08:08:39 AM
Consider yourself corrected :P
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/30235
nice chart. Thanks.
Does combining miles or points ever count as activity?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SL123 on August 13, 2013, 12:25:25 PM
@Dan On that list, JetBlue points no longer expire. I'm sure you are aware.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 13, 2013, 12:26:00 PM
@Dan On that list, JetBlue points no longer expire. I'm sure you are aware.
As of the time of that post they did :P
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on August 13, 2013, 01:33:08 PM
how do i find out when i cancelled my old card?
amex rep told me that if i dont have acct number they cant look it up
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 13, 2013, 02:14:23 PM
If you can get your CR it should be on there.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on August 13, 2013, 03:42:26 PM
The credit report doesn't show the correct account closure date, its usually delayed with a few months.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 13, 2013, 04:02:16 PM
how do i find out when i cancelled my old card?
amex rep told me that if i dont have acct number they cant look it up
HUCA. Just did it yesterday by ss#.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: fanfoot on August 13, 2013, 05:54:08 PM
I haven't seen any recent activity on the whole churning Amex SPG with a blank or new SPG account number recently.  Most recent posts were from 2012.  Anybody have any recent experience?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SLP on August 13, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
When downgrading SPG to a blue cash, what happens to the extra year warranty on purchases made with the SPG?
I confirmed it with multiple reps on the phone that the warranty remains as long as you have an Amex account open, personal or business card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 13, 2013, 06:35:42 PM
I haven't seen any recent activity on the whole churning Amex SPG with a blank or new SPG account number recently.  Most recent posts were from 2012.  Anybody have any recent experience?

CMIIW but due to the new T&C you can only be approved for a card of the same product 12 months after your last one...technically not churnable anymore
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 14, 2013, 12:08:07 AM
Dan loves his Starwood card, because starpoints can transfer to other programs with a bonus. Anyone prefer spending on other cards like the BA card where Spending 30,000 equals a companion ticket
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: lfas25 on August 14, 2013, 12:00:53 PM
If I understand correctly:
SPG  could be downgraded into a Blue Cash.
How long does it need to be open in order to have them convert?

Then you need to wait a year in order to get the sign up bonus again? (with a new SPG acct #)

If you have personal could you get the business sign up bonus? if yes do you need a new SPG acct #?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 14, 2013, 12:09:54 PM
I applied for both SPG cards (BIZ & PERS) in my last 3BM last week Tuesday, got approved instantly for the personal, and was approved today for the BIZ, with 2 pulls that is... I don't know how some of you here claim to get it both with one pull, that seems to be next to impossible

For you  :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: george on August 14, 2013, 03:34:41 PM
Dan loves his Starwood card, because starpoints can transfer to other programs with a bonus. Anyone prefer spending on other cards like the BA card where Spending 30,000 equals a companion ticket
IIRC that companion ticket comes with insane fuel surcharges, as it can only be used on BA metal.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 14, 2013, 11:20:11 PM
Just received my SPG business card, it only has my first name on it, is that normal?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 14, 2013, 11:24:33 PM
Just received my SPG business card, it only has my first name on it, is that normal?
I had that once with a BRG.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 14, 2013, 11:53:02 PM
I guess it's not normal, Amex sent me a "name change authorization" PDF file to fill out,

the rep on phone was also curious about me having 3 different SPG credit cards all associated with the same SPG rewards account, and advised me to call Starwood and see with them if I can run into any problems.?!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 15, 2013, 01:49:57 AM
I guess it's not normal, Amex sent me a "name change authorization" PDF file to fill out,
I had my card for a few months and was never contacted.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: leeboy on August 15, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
If I understand correctly:
SPG  could be downgraded into a Blue Cash.
How long does it need to be open in order to have them convert?

Then you need to wait a year in order to get the sign up bonus again? (with a new SPG acct #)

If you have personal could you get the business sign up bonus? if yes do you need a new SPG acct #?

Do you really need to wait 12 months? I believe dan said you can just use a new SPG #
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mod on August 15, 2013, 10:47:58 AM
Just tried applying for the business card - received a message saying that their systems are down. Anyone else receive? Should I just resubmit?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on August 15, 2013, 10:49:38 AM
Just tried applying for the business card - received a message saying that their systems are down. Anyone else receive? Should I just resubmit?
I was told yes but personally I didn't cuz I was doing a 3BM and didn't want another pull
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mod on August 15, 2013, 10:50:32 AM
I was told yes but personally I didn't cuz I was doing a 3BM and didn't want another pull

It was the first application that I tried. So I guess I will try the 2BM later.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: arig on August 15, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
Just did a 2BM for the SPG BIZ and Personal- instant approval on the personal and the biz app told me to call in. i called and the rep told me that since it was done on the same day, its considered a duplicate app and its on hold for 4-5 business days now. question now is, should i call back in 4-5 days and risk getting pulled again, or let it be and wait for the decision in the mail? either way, they will prob want to pull my CR again...would they email me in 4-5 days to let me know im approved/declined? or is it only done by mail?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ItzikJones on August 15, 2013, 01:42:57 PM
Just did a 2BM for the SPG BIZ and Personal- instant approval on the personal and the biz app told me to call in. i called and the rep told me that since it was done on the same day, its considered a duplicate app and its on hold for 4-5 business days now. question now is, should i call back in 4-5 days and risk getting pulled again, or let it be and wait for the decision in the mail? either way, they will prob want to pull my CR again...would they email me in 4-5 days to let me know im approved/declined? or is it only done by mail?

That's odd, because i did a 2BM for the Biz and Personal yesterday and had the same thing as you, instant approval on the personal and I was told to call in for the Biz. So I called in and the guy told me that they asked me to call in just to verify that it was really me that applied for the card and after a couple questions I was approved instantly and the card was sent to me via 2nd day air and should be here tomorrow.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on August 16, 2013, 12:05:43 AM
That's odd, because i did a 2BM for the Biz and Personal yesterday and had the same thing as you, instant approval on the personal and I was told to call in for the Biz. So I called in and the guy told me that they asked me to call in just to verify that it was really me that applied for the card and after a couple questions I was approved instantly and the card was sent to me via 2nd day air and should be here tomorrow.
well i am currently having the same situation as arig and from what im reading here seems like most ppl are experiencing the same. i guess you just got plain old lucky
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: arig on August 16, 2013, 11:43:29 AM
im just gona wait it out. the status link is telling me my business SPG app is under review. lets hope they approve...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ItzikJones on August 16, 2013, 04:41:37 PM
Does the SPG Business card's credit limit get reported on my credit score? They gave me a high limit and I plan on keeping this card open for a long time so I hope so.

***I ask because this business card actually has a credit limit, unlike the Biz Gold I have which is a charge card and has no pre-set limit.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 16, 2013, 04:58:59 PM
No
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ItzikJones on August 16, 2013, 05:08:19 PM
No

Oh, well that stinks. An extra 17.5K would be nice to have factored into my credit utilization ratio.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 16, 2013, 05:35:24 PM
Oh, well that stinks. An extra 17.5K would be nice to have factored into my credit utilization ratio.

That's true, but on the bright side, you can rack up a huge balance on this one card and keep a low debt per credit ratio on the cards that get reported, for a better score...

Following me?!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 16, 2013, 07:06:47 PM
I did a 2BM for SPG Business and PGR card, auto approved for SPG Business but pending on the PGR? Wth?

Should I call recon now to try and avoid 2 pulls?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 16, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
Called recon and they approved me. Here's hoping it only results in 1 pull :/
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 16, 2013, 07:26:32 PM
A business and personal will always result in two.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 16, 2013, 07:29:35 PM
A business and personal will always result in two.

-1, it will always for Chase, not for Amex

Don't you read Dan's posts?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 16, 2013, 08:02:53 PM
My bad. Dan's posts I read. This one I didn't. My bad. Didn't pay attention that you were talking Amex.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ItzikJones on August 16, 2013, 09:00:57 PM
That's true, but on the bright side, you can rack up a huge balance on this one card and keep a low debt per credit ratio on the cards that get reported, for a better score...

Following me?!

Yeah, but I usually pay off the majority of my balances before my statements close (thanks for the tip Dan :)), so it's not a huge deal either way.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on August 17, 2013, 09:50:31 PM
it will always for Chase,


-1
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 17, 2013, 11:29:08 PM
-1

Interesting and good to know (don't think I've ever seen someone report success on it though)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 17, 2013, 11:34:23 PM

Yeah, but I usually pay off the majority of my balances before my statements close (thanks for the tip Dan :)), so it's not a huge deal either way.
He's talking about a biz card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 18, 2013, 11:11:10 AM
Do they ever run transfer bonuses on SPG points -> AA miles?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on August 18, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
Do they ever run transfer bonuses on SPG points -> AA miles?
No
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 18, 2013, 11:22:09 AM
No
There has been though not recently.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on August 18, 2013, 11:30:57 AM
There has been though not recently.
And probably not going to happen in the near future.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 18, 2013, 01:16:14 PM
How long am I supposed to wait between Amex apps? 30 days or 60?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ItzikJones on August 18, 2013, 02:51:14 PM
He's talking about a biz card.

I get that, but my point is that my credit utilization on my consumer cards is already low because I pay most off my bill off before the statement closes, so in the end of the day it won't help me much to ring up most of my spending on the Starwood biz card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 18, 2013, 02:55:52 PM

well i am currently having the same situation as arig and from what im reading here seems like most ppl are experiencing the same. i guess you just got plain old lucky
had the same thing, I was sent an email 5 days later that it was approved . When I called Amex it sounded like I was approved but they weren't letting it go through till the security dept let it go, they hold the app just to make sure that it was you that applied and not someone else. My assumption from my conversations with recon dept was that if they weren't going to approve me they would tell right away.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shkop on August 18, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
I have business SPG AMEX and my wife has personal. A rep told me that we cant get the 30k bonus since we have open cards, even if I get the personal or she gets business. I understand that a different address and spg # would be a work around but Dan answered a question that:

 "No need to open a separate SPG number for consumer and business. Every SPG number can get the bonus from a consumer and business card."

Is the rep wrong? Or perhaps you can get the bonus for both if you apply for both - not if you have one already?

thanks

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 18, 2013, 07:51:08 PM

I have business SPG AMEX and my wife has personal. A rep told me that we cant get the 30k bonus since we have open cards, even if I get the personal or she gets business. I understand that a different address and spg # would be a work around but Dan answered a question that:

 "No need to open a separate SPG number for consumer and business. Every SPG number can get the bonus from a consumer and business card."

Is the rep wrong? Or perhaps you can get the bonus for both if you apply for both - not if you have one already?

thanks
When in doubt , trust Dan. Yes it does work no need for a new spg number.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 18, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
I have business SPG AMEX and my wife has personal. A rep told me that we cant get the 30k bonus since we have open cards, even if I get the personal or she gets business. I understand that a different address and spg # would be a work around but Dan answered a question that:

 "No need to open a separate SPG number for consumer and business. Every SPG number can get the bonus from a consumer and business card."

Is the rep wrong? Or perhaps you can get the bonus for both if you apply for both - not if you have one already?

thanks

Why do people keep asking reps? When the info is all laid out here. Boggles my mind.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shkop on August 19, 2013, 01:35:41 AM
Why do people keep asking reps? When the info is all laid out here. Boggles my mind.
I boggle minds.
thanks guys.
Dan is a reps rep.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nocknock on August 19, 2013, 11:50:16 PM
How long does it take to transfer SPG to AA?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Homeandl on August 20, 2013, 12:18:52 AM
How long does it take to transfer SPG to AA?
Transfers aren’t instant, and might take up to 4 weeks, most times however, it will take 2 to 12 days to complete but YMMV
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ash on August 20, 2013, 02:20:36 AM
I have two question I applied for a new Spg card but since I had two from years ago i did not receive the bonus is there anything i can do ?

and as I was reading the details it writes that you cant get starwood points by buying cash reload cards or the equivalent I.E. gift cards and they have a special code from shops to determine the items you are buying is approved for getting spg points? is that true ? does any one know of this ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ash on August 20, 2013, 03:53:35 AM
no it doesnt
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on August 20, 2013, 03:54:16 AM
no it doesnt
Then maybe try again in English.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ash on August 20, 2013, 01:42:45 PM
ok based on the terms and conditions they wont give any points for reloadable prepaid card purchases and such

se here http://www.membershiprewards.com/catalog/splashtemplates/TermsSplash.aspx?intlink=us-corp-publicAffairs-ccsg-rewards-TandC#<b>GETTINGPOINTS</b>
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ash on August 20, 2013, 01:43:41 PM
I want to know is if anyone has any experience in making a purchase and then not getting the points based on these terms and conditions ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on August 20, 2013, 02:14:10 PM
I want to know is if anyone has any experience in making a purchase and then not getting the points based on these terms and conditions ?
i have bought gift cards to meet threshholds on starwood never had an issue
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on August 20, 2013, 03:04:30 PM
i have bought gift cards to meet threshholds on starwood never had an issue
Same here. I've gotten points for money spent on gift cards.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 20, 2013, 03:47:38 PM

i have bought gift cards to meet threshholds on starwood never had an issue
How would Amex know what your buying😳
Title: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 20, 2013, 04:23:37 PM
Called reconsideration for an SPG card that was declined on the spot, and just got an email now saying it was approved!!! Good times! Btw does anyone know if I'll get the 30K offer or the offer that I applied with which is 25K? (I was told I needed a new pull, if that makes a difference.)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on August 20, 2013, 04:33:43 PM
Called reconsideration for an SPG card that was declined on the spot, and just got an email now saying it was approved!!! Good times! Btw does anyone know if I'll get the 30K offer or the offer that I applied with which is 25K? (I was told I needed a new pull, if that makes a difference.)

You'll get the offer you applied with I imagine. Send then an SM.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 20, 2013, 05:24:26 PM
Can I combine my wife's SPG account with mine?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on August 20, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
Can I combine my wife's SPG account with mine?

Yes aslong as the spg account is the same address.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 20, 2013, 05:35:31 PM
I just spoke to a rep and was told if was an AU on someone's SPG in the past 12 months I would not be eligible for the 25K bonus. Is that a fact? :'(
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 20, 2013, 06:16:48 PM
I just spoke to a rep and was told if was an AU on someone's SPG in the past 12 months I would not be eligible for the 25K bonus. Is that a fact? :'(
Of course not. Stop calling reps will ya??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 20, 2013, 08:02:44 PM
I have two question I applied for a new Spg card but since I had two from years ago i did not receive the bonus is there anything i can do ?

and as I was reading the details it writes that you cant get starwood points by buying cash reload cards or the equivalent I.E. gift cards and they have a special code from shops to determine the items you are buying is approved for getting spg points? is that true ? does any one know of this ?

Cannot receive bonus if you've had the card within 12 mos. If that is not true, then you should have received.

I had thought not, but I did see one report a couple months ago on here that seemed to upend my belief. My guess is they still cannot, but can't explain that one report.

(Points for the person that find it.)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 20, 2013, 08:11:32 PM

Of course not. Stop calling reps will ya??
Called back and they told me I'm good! ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on August 20, 2013, 08:32:40 PM
(Points for the person that find it.)
This? (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=29077.0)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 20, 2013, 09:28:26 PM
This? (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=29077.0)

Winner!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on August 21, 2013, 12:05:40 AM
I got denied for a starwood card because my fico score is 679 and Amex says my risk score is too high. I have however a BGR card that allows me to charge about 22K/month (I checked on their online tool). Is there any way to transfer CL to a new card like we do with Chase Lending services (this is already after reconsideration that I called and it was pending until today again)?

I have a good CL with Chase, but I need Amex only for thier OPEN program, which gives you 5% cashback on Fedex up to 20K/year, we ship 60K, so three cards will save us 3K, not bad.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on August 21, 2013, 12:27:36 AM
I got denied for a starwood card because my fico score is 679 and Amex says my risk score is too high. I have however a BGR card that allows me to charge about 22K/month (I checked on their online tool). Is there any way to transfer CL to a new card like we do with Chase Lending services (this is already after reconsideration that I called and it was pending until today again)?

I have a good CL with Chase, but I need Amex only for thier OPEN program, which gives you 5% cashback on Fedex up to 20K/year, we ship 60K, so three cards will save us 3K, not bad.
BRG is a charge card so you have no CL on it.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: george on August 21, 2013, 12:36:24 AM
Called back and they told me I'm good! ;)
So you really can't stop yourself from calling reps? Fascinating.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 21, 2013, 07:56:12 AM

So you really can't stop yourself from calling reps? Fascinating.
Crazy right? ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on August 21, 2013, 09:18:21 AM
BRG is a charge card so you have no CL on it.

I understand I have no CL, but I have a spending allowance. With Chase, charge cards do have a CL, and you can shift lines. Any way for Amex?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mochada on August 21, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
Of course not. Stop calling reps will ya??

Called back and they told me I'm good! ;)

Really takes HUCA to a whole new level....
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 21, 2013, 09:31:21 AM

Really takes HUCA to a whole new level....
FYI I only saw what Dan said after I made my next call...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on August 21, 2013, 10:01:20 AM
I understand I have no CL, but I have a spending allowance. With Chase, charge cards do have a CL, and you can shift lines. Any way for Amex?
I remember reading in one of the threads that you can't, can't find it now though.

ETA: Here you go (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=9772.msg117795.msg#117795).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 21, 2013, 01:37:01 PM
I understand I have no CL, but I have a spending allowance. With Chase, charge cards do have a CL, and you can shift lines. Any way for Amex?
Not so simple...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on August 21, 2013, 07:02:15 PM
FYI I only saw what Dan said after I made my next call...
One doesn't have to make everything known.....
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: churnbabychurn on August 22, 2013, 11:10:42 AM
I sm'd to downgrade to the bluecash I get this:
Quote
Congratulations ! Your request for a new product change has been approved.

The Product Change will be effective on: 08/23/2013.

You will receive details regarding the change in terms by mail.

Your current Card can continue to be used until the new Card is received.Your new Card will be received within 7-10 business days.

Have an Excellent day!

Sincerely,             
             
Pankaj Anand             
Manager, Email Servicing Team                             

Does it sound like the imbecile pulled my CR?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 22, 2013, 11:33:05 AM
I sm'd to downgrade to the bluecash I get this:
Does it sound like the imbecile pulled my CR?

Got the same when I downgraded, no pull
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on August 22, 2013, 01:16:38 PM
I'm looking to cancel and avoid annual fee. Rep told me to transfer cl account must be open 13 months. I assume this is not true - any confirmation here? (I'll huca anyway)
Also anyone know what the current amount that must be left in account is?  - got a couple different answers while being tranfered around
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on August 22, 2013, 01:19:17 PM
I'm looking to cancel and avoid annual fee. Rep told me to transfer cl account must be open 13 months. I assume this is not true - any confirmation here? (I'll huca anyway)
Also anyone know what the current amount that must be left in account is?  - got a couple different answers while being tranfered around
I transferred a 3 month old line. SPG.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on August 22, 2013, 04:42:47 PM
Can someone please clarify for me the best route I can/should take to get most points out of this 30k offer?

I have a spg business card for over a year now...
1- Can I get the bonus under same spg number for personal ?
2- Did I understand correctly that I can get another business AND personal with a new spg number under dif address?
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mochada on August 22, 2013, 04:50:13 PM
Can someone please clarify for me the best route I can/should take to get most points out of this 30k offer?

I have a spg business card for over a year now...
1- Can I get the bonus under same spg number for personal ?
2- Did I understand correctly that I can get another business AND personal with a new spg number under dif address?
Thanks in advance!

1- Yes
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on August 22, 2013, 05:13:41 PM
Thanks!
I'm not sure if this is right place to ask (so if wrong please point me in right direction)...
I have been fighting Alitalia for a ticket refund for past six months on a ticket I bought with spg , and just email confirmation that they "refunded" my spg card- the problem is its Ben a few days and don't see any credit to my account...
1-How long does this usually take (after receiving email from them)?
2-And how does it work with the card?
I don't really use it anymore, so will they send me a check with refund?
3-Can I cancel the card before it is officially credited? - my yearly fee just came up!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 25, 2013, 07:10:12 AM
So I just got my new SPG cards in the mail over Shabbos and I'm off to meet 5k spend in 6 months.
The T&C state clearly that you can't get points for buying gift cards. In reality, what has been people's experience? Can you meet the minimum spend with VRs at CVS? I currently have a ticking clock to meet spend on multiple Citi AA cards which I rely heavily upon VRs to meet. Is it consensus that this doesn't work so well with Amex cards?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 25, 2013, 07:14:34 AM
So I just got my new SPG cards in the mail over Shabbos and I'm off to meet 5k spend in 6 months.
The T&C state clearly that you can't get points for buying gift cards. In reality, what has been people's experience? Can you meet the minimum spend with VRs at CVS? I currently have a ticking clock to meet spend on multiple Citi AA cards which I rely heavily upon VRs to meet. Is it consensus that this doesn't work so well with Amex cards?
No such consensus exists. The most you have to worry about is an FR.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 25, 2013, 07:37:22 AM
No such consensus exists. The most you have to worry about is an FR.

Then how do people get shut down or banned by Amex? That has definitely happened to people of these forums. What did they do (so I don't do it)?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on August 25, 2013, 08:43:30 AM
So I just got my new SPG cards in the mail over Shabbos and I'm off to meet 5k spend in 6 months.
The T&C state clearly that you can't get points for buying gift cards. In reality, what has been people's experience? Can you meet the minimum spend with VRs at CVS? I currently have a ticking clock to meet spend on multiple Citi AA cards which I rely heavily upon VRs to meet. Is it consensus that this doesn't work so well with Amex cards?
Wow.  This is like the 10th time this question has been asked in 4 days .

Yes,  gc's work for spending requirements.  Yes there is a risk of FR. 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 25, 2013, 08:45:01 AM
Then how do people get shut down or banned by Amex? That has definitely happened to people of these forums. What did they do (so I don't do it)?
They get shut down if they can't pass an FR. Please resort to this thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.0) for more info. As to your original question, yes, buying GCs/VRs in stores does count towards your spending threshold. Just be wary of an FR for any irregular spending.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 25, 2013, 06:52:42 PM
i think i made a mistake when applying for spg. i have other amex cards and didn't apply in "incagnito" mode. It said that existing amex customers don't qualify for this promotion even though i don't have a spg card with them. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 25, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
i think i made a mistake when applying for spg. i have other amex cards and didn't apply in "incagnito" mode. It said that existing amex customers don't qualify for this promotion even though i don't have a spg card with them. Thoughts?
Did you have one within the past 12 months?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 25, 2013, 07:00:58 PM
thats what it says, don't think it had to do w incognito
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 25, 2013, 08:22:34 PM
Did you have one within the past 12 months?
i've never had an spg before
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: churnbabychurn on August 25, 2013, 08:30:21 PM
i've never had an spg before
I dont the sound of this.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 25, 2013, 08:53:53 PM
I dont the sound of this.
i'll keep you posted
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 25, 2013, 11:11:56 PM
i'll keep you posted
BTW when I saw that message I started a new application without using the application shortcut and took a screenshot of the offer where it clearly says that you get the offer unless you had a spg card within the last 12 months. so we'll see
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Wheelerdealer on August 26, 2013, 11:04:39 PM
Try this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21457.msg561198.msg#561198).
Has anyone tried this??Does this work to get the signup bonus againwithin 12 months?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: montey on August 27, 2013, 01:51:50 PM
Sorry - Your situation sounds somewhat different.  Starwood customer service was able to find the new Starpoints account and merge it by searching for accounts with my email address attached.

I had applied to SPG personal and ws only given 10000 point signup bonus. Complained a few times by phone and PM, now:

Update: They said I signed up for the 10000 point program. They told me to send a fax with the information and screenshot. Does anyone have a screenshot from the 25000 offer? Or, HUCA?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hollawood24 on August 27, 2013, 02:01:59 PM
I had applied to SPG personal and ws only given 10000 point signup bonus. Complained a few times by phone and PM, now:

Update: They said I signed up for the 10000 point program. They told me to send a fax with the information and screenshot. Does anyone have a screenshot from the 25000 offer? Or, HUCA?

You should get the other 15k after you spend $5k. That usually takes an extra billing cycle after you have fully paid off the balance.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: montey on August 27, 2013, 02:08:06 PM
You should get the other 15k after you spend $5k. That usually takes an extra billing cycle after you have fully paid off the balance.

They said I signed up for the 10000 offer. This doesn't matter? Was there even a 10k offer?

Does anyone have a 25k screenshot?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hollawood24 on August 27, 2013, 02:38:10 PM
They said I signed up for the 10000 offer. This doesn't matter? Was there even a 10k offer?

Does anyone have a 25k screenshot?

They are referring to the 10k you get after making your first purchase, but the additional 15k doesn't come until after you spend $5k

Anyone who applied for a starwood card before the limited 30k offer, automatically had the 25k offer.

The answer to your 2 questions are No and No.

And have you reached the $5k spend threshold?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on August 27, 2013, 02:38:25 PM
When doing a 2nd Starwood, do you have to create a new starwood number?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hollawood24 on August 27, 2013, 02:45:45 PM
I didn't enter my starwood # and they generated a new one for me, but I just plan to have them combine the two once my points post for both cards.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: compddd on August 27, 2013, 03:07:07 PM
When doing a 2nd Starwood, do you have to create a new starwood number?

For Personal + Business? No
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on August 27, 2013, 03:22:43 PM
For Personal + Business? No
How about personal, then a year late personal?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 27, 2013, 03:42:27 PM

How about personal, then a year late personal?
I got my second set of spg cards after having my first set for over a year. I used a new spg number have the second set for about 3 weeks and still didn't get bonuses on the second set. So good luck.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 27, 2013, 03:43:32 PM
Plz keep us informed ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
I got my second set of spg cards after having my first set for over a year. I used a new spg number have the second set for about 3 weeks and still didn't get bonuses on the second set. So good luck.
Did you spend the $5K?
Many times the extra 20K for $5K will post either way...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chamdena on August 27, 2013, 05:03:07 PM
I just got nailed with FR! Crap! Anyway, Id like to try to transfer my spg points before shutting my card. Doors anyone have experience with this? Will it work? And what is the quickest way to transfer spg points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Ephcc90 on August 27, 2013, 05:22:05 PM

I just got nailed with FR! Crap! Anyway, Id like to try to transfer my spg points before shutting my card. Doors anyone have experience with this? Will it work? And what is the quickest way to transfer spg points?
Shouldn't it be under your spg account not Amex?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chamdena on August 27, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
Shouldn't it be under your spg account not Amex?

I believe that you loose SPG points as soon as you close the Starwoods card:( Please correct me if I'm wrong
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on August 27, 2013, 05:43:56 PM
I believe that you loose SPG points as soon as you close the Starwoods card:( Please correct me if I'm wrong
You're wrong.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chamdena on August 27, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
You're wrong.
I guess this will rank with the few times that I've been delighted to be wrong. Cool. I guess Ill check out my SPG account and see whats up there. Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 27, 2013, 06:06:11 PM
I believe that you loose SPG points as soon as you close the Starwoods card:( Please correct me if I'm wrong
3rd party points you don't lose upon closing a card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on August 27, 2013, 06:19:29 PM
3rd party points you don't lose upon closing a card.

Imagine losing all your base points for hotel stays because you closed a CC.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 27, 2013, 06:36:26 PM

Imagine losing all your base points for hotel stays because you closed a CC.
;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: montey on August 27, 2013, 07:14:42 PM
They are referring to the 10k you get after making your first purchase, but the additional 15k doesn't come until after you spend $5k

Anyone who applied for a starwood card before the limited 30k offer, automatically had the 25k offer.

The answer to your 2 questions are No and No.

And have you reached the $5k spend threshold?

Thanks. Can anyone back up that there was no 10k offer? They want me to fax in a copy of the screenshot of the offer.

Yes, I did meet the $5k spend
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 27, 2013, 08:18:33 PM
Thanks. Can anyone back up that there was no 10k offer? They want me to fax in a copy of the screenshot of the offer.

Yes, I did meet the $5k spend
Never heard of it either.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 27, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
I just got nailed with FR! Crap! Anyway, Id like to try to transfer my spg points before shutting my card. Doors anyone have experience with this? Will it work? And what is the quickest way to transfer spg points?

Could you share with us what you were doing that may have triggered that FR?
I'd like to learn from a wise person and ain chochom k'baal nisayon.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 27, 2013, 08:22:49 PM

Did you spend the $5K?
Many times the extra 20K for $5K will post either way...
Thanx Dan I didn't spend the 5k but the initial 10k points didn't post. I guess ill see what happens after the 5k spending.will see what happens. Thanx
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chamdena on August 27, 2013, 08:45:57 PM
Could you share with us what you were doing that may have triggered that FR?
I'd like to learn from a wise person and ain chochom k'baal nisayon.

Absolutely!and thanks for asking. Of course, we don't ever know FOR SURE EXACTLY what triggers is. However, as regretful as I am I'll admit, I can think of three possibilities:
1)I did a 1k AP against my biz SPG card. Its a hard pill to swallow, but I suppose that could have done it.
2)Another possibility is not paying up a balance on my biz Gold card by the "please pay by" date. The reason for this is because AMEX told me many times that its a bogus date and the real due date on their charge cards are the end of the billing cycle. BUT... maybe that contributed to it too.
3)I racked up a balance of 4.500 on my biz spg card which has a limit of 5k. I didnt miss any payments or anything BUT... then again its a possibility.

SO... Now you know the rest of the story...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: montey on August 27, 2013, 08:52:35 PM
1)I did a 1k AP against my biz SPG card. Its a hard pill to swallow, but I suppose that could have done it.

3)I racked up a balance of 4.500 on my biz spg card which has a limit of 5k. I didnt miss any payments or anything BUT... then again its a possibility.

I would say the above combined may have done it, but not the AP on its own.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on August 27, 2013, 09:52:17 PM
Btw you did 1k exactly or mixed it up? Just curious...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chamdena on August 27, 2013, 10:01:14 PM
1 k exactly
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on August 28, 2013, 10:59:25 AM
Can someone please help me with the following:

1. If I request a higher credit limit, does that translate into a hard pull on my account?

2. I have 8k limit on a 738 credit score. Does it pay to ask for a higher limit?

TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on August 28, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
Can someone please help me with the following:

1. If I request a higher credit limit, does that translate into a hard pull on my account?

2. I have 8k limit on a 738 credit score. Does it pay to ask for a higher limit?

TIA
Usually although sometimes you may qualify for a CLI without one.
Why don't you apply for another card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on August 28, 2013, 11:10:33 AM
Usually although sometimes you may qualify for a CLI without one.
Why don't you apply for another card?

I dont really need a lot of credit now, I just want to build my credit score. Will that help to have more cards, or one card with a high limit?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on August 28, 2013, 11:54:45 AM
I dont really need a lot of credit now, I just want to build my credit score. Will that help to have more cards, or one card with a high limit?
In the long run more card will be very beneficial as amount of credit lines; more is higher score, and avg age of credit will be better in future. Plus with good credit you should be able to get a higher line on a new card than with a credit increase (this last part is opinion).

If you don't want the miles/money from sign up bonus then I'm sure someone else would take it off your hands...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on August 28, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
In the long run more card will be very beneficial as amount of credit lines; more is higher score, and avg age of credit will be better in future. Plus with good credit you should be able to get a higher line on a new card than with a credit increase (this last part is opinion).

If you don't want the miles/money from sign up bonus then I'm sure someone else would take it off your hands...

OK Thanks!!

I am waiting for a good sign up bonus for INK cards. Or do the offers stay relatively the same? (I am only familiar with amex cards).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on August 28, 2013, 12:24:55 PM
OK Thanks!!

I am waiting for a good sign up bonus for INK cards. Or do the offers stay relatively the same? (I am only familiar with amex cards).
They just had an increased offer recently, so you might have to wait a while.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nocknock on August 28, 2013, 03:47:06 PM
I need 2k SPG points ASAP could someone give me an idea how to get? Buying, chatting, asking etc.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on August 28, 2013, 03:54:01 PM

They just had an increased offer recently, so you might have to wait a while.

Not worth waiting as there isn't a 12 month timer like with AMEX.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 28, 2013, 04:41:52 PM
I am waiting for a good sign up bonus for INK cards. Or do the offers stay relatively the same?
Current offer is good enough. Trust me.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Sowhat on August 28, 2013, 04:46:14 PM
Is there a danger of applying for multiple SPG and then downgrading to avoid annual fee?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on August 28, 2013, 04:55:34 PM
Is there a danger of applying for multiple SPG and then downgrading to avoid annual fee?
What do you mean by multiple? How do you plan on circumventing the 12-month rule?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on August 28, 2013, 07:06:29 PM
Current offer is good enough. Trust me.

ok thanks. 50k?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on August 28, 2013, 10:28:14 PM

ok thanks. 50k?
Yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: scwam on August 29, 2013, 12:20:01 AM
Applied for person 2 days ago. Instant approval, will apply for business in 4 days.
However, they closed out my only Hilton Honors card without asking me anything.  :o Why? I noticed this after I logged into my account, and I had just voluntarily closed my other HH surpass and Delta card 2 months ago (bad app to fee timing).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on August 29, 2013, 01:15:42 AM

Applied for person 2 days ago. Instant approval, will apply for business in 4 days.
However, they closed out my only Hilton Honors card without asking me anything.  :o Why? I noticed this after I logged into my account, and I had just voluntarily closed my other HH surpass and Delta card 2 months ago (bad app to fee timing).
Sometimes they close an account if it hasn't been used in a while.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 29, 2013, 11:21:44 AM
Applied for person 2 days ago. Instant approval, will apply for business in 4 days.
However, they closed out my only Hilton Honors card without asking me anything.  :o Why? I noticed this after I logged into my account, and I had just voluntarily closed my other HH surpass and Delta card 2 months ago (bad app to fee timing).

i had the same thing.
i signed on to amex and saw that they closed my blue cash card. It's my oldest card so I want to keep it. I called up and it turns out that when they approved my spg card they moved the credit line from blue cash to spg without asking me. they moved it back when i called and re-opened the blue cash card without a credit pull.
call up and see if that is what happened to you.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Jeremiah on September 01, 2013, 07:10:01 AM
I signed up for the Starwood in dec 11 and paid the annual fee the second year. This is my oldest card that I opened (although that my credit report said that my history is 9 yrs). Does it pay to close it down to get another bonus? Is it possible to get the bonus again without closing it down?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on September 01, 2013, 08:40:21 AM
I signed up for the Starwood in dec 11 and paid the annual fee the second year. This is my oldest card that I opened (although that my credit report said that my history is 9 yrs). Does it pay to close it down to get another bonus? Is it possible to get the bonus again without closing it down?
Ask to downgrade it to a no AF card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dovy2 on September 01, 2013, 06:23:56 PM
the terms now read: "If you are identified as a current American Express® Cardmember, you may not be eligible for this welcome bonus offer."
does that mean that the technically can deny the points to anyone?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MilesHoarder on September 01, 2013, 07:47:54 PM
although my first statement hasn't closed yet  I met the 5K spend requirement 2 weeks ago and still no points posted to my account . Is it likely that I am not eligible or do they normally post after the statement closes?? 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on September 01, 2013, 07:54:21 PM
although my first statement hasn't closed yet  I met the 5K spend requirement 2 weeks ago and still no points posted to my account . Is it likely that I am not eligible or do they normally post after the statement closes??
That. (Though it is also likely you are not eligible as i am not privy to your past CC history...)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on September 01, 2013, 07:54:44 PM
although my first statement hasn't closed yet  I met the 5K spend requirement 2 weeks ago and still no points posted to my account . Is it likely that I am not eligible or do they normally post after the statement closes??
Mine posted as soon as the charges cleared.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 01, 2013, 09:45:42 PM
I applied today for 2 SPG and MB,
Only 1 SPG personal approved,
Reconsideration is closed! Worried If i call tomorrow I will get more pulls...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on September 01, 2013, 10:19:02 PM
I applied today for 2 SPG and MB,
Only 1 SPG personal approved,
Reconsideration is closed! Worried If i call tomorrow I will get more pulls...
Tomorrow is Labor Day.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 01, 2013, 10:22:27 PM
Tomorrow is Labor Day.
closed too?
It says after 3rd no bonus...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on September 01, 2013, 11:26:53 PM
closed too?
It says after 3rd no bonus...

I think it's based on application date not approval date
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 01, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
I think it's based on application date not approval date
Page says opposite
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on September 01, 2013, 11:41:17 PM
i signed on to amex and saw that they closed my blue cash card. It's my oldest card so I want to keep it.
FYI: The old Blue Cash cards are 5% on G/G/D after 6.5k spend.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 02, 2013, 12:21:57 AM
1 approved 2 pending,+ currently have 4 open( including 1 business), should I close any to increase chances?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on September 02, 2013, 12:50:21 AM
1 approved 2 pending,+ currently have 4 open( including 1 business), should I close any to increase chances?
Amex won't allow more than 4 credit (not charge) cards at one time.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 02, 2013, 12:58:19 AM
Amex won't allow more than 4 credit (not charge) cards at one time.

So i have right now 2  credit and 2 that are charge.

In addition got approved for 1 credit.  And
1 charge & 1 credit pending..

Should i close anything?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on September 02, 2013, 01:22:48 AM
So i have right now 2  credit and 2 that are charge.

In addition got approved for 1 credit.  And
1 charge & 1 credit pending..

Should i close anything?
Not yet.  When you call reconsideration, offer to close a card and move the credit line over to the new card. 

(Pick which card you want to close in advance and be specific with reconsideration.)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 02, 2013, 01:36:20 AM
Not yet.  When you call reconsideration, offer to close a card and move the credit line over to the new card. 

(Pick which card you want to close in advance and be specific with reconsideration.)
I thought only chase does this...
Amex too?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on September 02, 2013, 02:26:17 AM
I thought only chase does this...
Amex too?
Amex sometimes does it on their own. Never heard of this working by recon.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 02, 2013, 03:05:19 AM
Amex sometimes does it on their own. Never heard of this working by recon.
so I'm better off closing?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on September 02, 2013, 09:42:51 AM
FYI: The old Blue Cash cards are 5% on G/G/D after 6.5k spend.
+1 That is why I will not upgrade it to the Blue cash preferred or Blue sky
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SearchGuy on September 02, 2013, 01:46:42 PM
I applied for both Biz and Personal no instant approval...
Should i call or wait?
What are my chances? I have a PRG for almost 2 years active, that's my only Amex card to have
Should i apply for a third card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: btab on September 08, 2013, 12:32:03 AM
I currently hold an SPG card that has been open for about 3 years. I applied for a new one and got instant approval. Both of these cards are personal. I know that there is the 12 month rule but I took a chance to try and see if I could still get the bonus. I was curious, should I link this new card to my current Amex account or create a new one, does this add to the chances of getting the bonus?

Also, when I received the card it read that I was a new account for SPG.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on September 08, 2013, 12:56:46 AM
I currently hold an SPG card that has been open for about 3 years. I applied for a new one and got instant approval. Both of these cards are personal. I know that there is the 12 month rule but I took a chance to try and see if I could still get the bonus. I was curious, should I link this new card to my current Amex account or create a new one, does this add to the chances of getting the bonus?

Also, when I received the card it read that I was a new account for SPG.
The new SPG number is what might help you. I don't think linking the card will have any adverse affect, IMHO.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on September 08, 2013, 01:01:47 AM
Just got my first business SPG card and it says member from 13 , and I'm a member with Amex spg from 08, I thought it goes from the year you got ur first Amex card from them ? Or is business card different ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on September 08, 2013, 01:23:01 AM
Just got my first business SPG card and it says member from 13 , and I'm a member with Amex spg from 08, I thought it goes from the year you got ur first Amex card from them ? Or is business card different ?

Same thing with me, my SPG business says member since '13. My SPG consumer is backdated to '92 which is the when I opened my first Amex charge card.

But it makes no difference if they backdate your business cards. They don't show up in your credit report so it doesn't help your average age anyway.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on September 08, 2013, 10:06:51 AM
When it says I'm only allowed to a certain numbers of AUs on my card, is that real or can I get around that? Also will they allow me more AUs for a fee, if yes how many?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on September 08, 2013, 12:42:40 PM
Just got my first SPG business.  The agreement states: "Eligible purchases do NOT include: ....purchases or reloading of prepaid cards.." Is this something new?  Does that mean no VRs or MVDs? :(
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on September 08, 2013, 01:02:04 PM
Just got my first SPG business.  The agreement states: "Eligible purchases do NOT include: ....purchases or reloading of prepaid cards.." Is this something new?  Does that mean no VRs or MVDs? :(
Nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on September 08, 2013, 01:24:05 PM
Nothing to worry about.
K Thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on September 08, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
Nothing to worry about.

Why don't you disclose the whole truth though? Amex is a lot more touchy than other lenders and multiple, big purchases at CVS could trigger a financial review. This isn't Chase. You have to go easy.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on September 08, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
Why don't you disclose the whole truth though? Amex is a lot more touchy than other lenders and multiple, big purchases at CVS could trigger a financial review. This isn't Chase. You have to go easy.
Huh?
The question was not whether "multiple, big purchases at CVS could trigger a financial review"

The question was whether VR's or MVD's are counted as eligible purchases. The answer is, yes they are.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on September 08, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
Huh?
The question was not whether "multiple, big purchases at CVS could trigger a financial review"

The question was whether VR's or MVD's are counted as eligible purchases. The answer is, yes they are.
Thanks to both for responding but, if I may...Jaywhy is right he answered my question but, Freddie is more right.  As a noob in this, the extra info is very important to know.  And, strictly speaking, if AMEX is so touchy then there is what "to worry about" unless you don't agree.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on September 08, 2013, 10:32:50 PM
Thanks to both for responding but, if I may...Jaywhy is right he answered my question but, Freddie is more right.  As a noob in this, the extra info is very important to know.  And, strictly speaking, if AMEX is so touchy then there is what "to worry about" unless you don't agree.
That you will get points for buying VR's, MVD's et al is uncontested, regardless of whatever it says in the terms.
Would it make you two happy if I rephrased my answer to "you will get the points"?

There are plenty of things to look out for when playing the MS game. May I suggest that you, as a "noob"  spend some time reading though the various threads here and Dan's comprehensive posts to familiarize yourself with the risks before you start playing the game.

There are plenty of people here who will help you out, but you can't expect that an answer to a simple question will contain every caveat that you need to know.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on September 09, 2013, 10:23:54 AM
That you will get points for buying VR's, MVD's et al is uncontested, regardless of whatever it says in the terms.
Would it make you two happy if I rephrased my answer to "you will get the points"?

There are plenty of things to look out for when playing the MS game. May I suggest that you, as a "noob"  spend some time reading though the various threads here and Dan's comprehensive posts to familiarize yourself with the risks before you start playing the game.

There are plenty of people here who will help you out, but you can't expect that an answer to a simple question will contain every caveat that you need to know.
I am already happy that you cared to answer my question. Thank you again. I have spent much time reading these threads and Dan's posts.  Didn't see anything about Prepaids/eligibility and Amex so all of the info was valuable. There are so many threads and so many posts even with specific searches there is still so much to go through.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on September 09, 2013, 06:01:32 PM
Got matched just now for the 30K offer!
#goodtimes
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on September 09, 2013, 06:18:09 PM
Got matched just now for the 30K offer!
#goodtimes
When did you apply?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on September 09, 2013, 06:38:23 PM
I think end of July like 20th or something.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on September 09, 2013, 06:48:43 PM
I think end of July like 20th or something.
Wow. First report of an Amex match in a while IIRC. Maybe they are loosening up...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on September 09, 2013, 07:08:07 PM
They are not, still giving a hard time to be matched. SS has been working on it for a while...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on September 09, 2013, 08:38:19 PM
They are not, still giving a hard time to be matched. SS has been working on it for a while...
-1 First phone call since I've received the card. I have called multiple times for my wife tho.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jewdkoff on September 09, 2013, 10:19:04 PM
Hey everyone, I couldn't find much info on this so I figured that I should post in here.

What's the deal with adding multiple AU's to get Gold or Plat Starwoods status and how do you do this without getting a FR or any other negative credit outcomes?

Thanks!
Title: help with closing amex spg card
Post by: mikejr on September 10, 2013, 10:54:19 AM
Hi I am new to DD so thanx for you're help in advance I currently have two amex SPG cards one of them is under financial review and while I have no intention of sending them any financials in result they will probably close the card. I do not have a lot of mileage on this card (I have a significant amount on the other) I would like to liquidate them before they close the account. What would be my best option? Sell them? (Getting only 1.3 because its little mileage) transfer them? Would love some feed back, thanx
Title: Re: help with closing amex spg card
Post by: yaakov s on September 10, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
Hi I am new to DD so thanx for you're help in advance I currently have two amex SPG cards one of them is under financial review and while I have no intention of sending them any financials in result they will probably close the card. I do not have a lot of mileage on this card (I have a significant amount on the other) I would like to liquidate them before they close the account. What would be my best option? Sell them? (Getting only 1.3 because its little mileage) transfer them? Would love some feed back, thanx
SPG points are not controlled by Amex once the statement closes . Anything that's already in your SPG account is safe.
Title: Re: help with closing amex spg card
Post by: mikejr on September 10, 2013, 11:22:11 AM
Thanx!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on September 10, 2013, 05:20:21 PM
When it says I'm only allowed to a certain numbers of AUs on my card, is that real or can I get around that? Also will they allow me more AUs for a fee, if yes how many?
BUMP

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on September 11, 2013, 01:11:45 PM
Does this card offer price match? If not which cards do?

Title: AMEX STARWOOD
Post by: nytrader on September 11, 2013, 02:10:55 PM
did you guys know that if you already have an amex starwood card and you open a new one for the 30,000 point promotion you will not get the promotional points; only the points for spending on the card?
Title: Re: AMEX STARWOOD
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 02:14:54 PM
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING!!!!!!! WHAT I JUST OPENED A NEW CARD! ARE YOU TELLING ME I WONT GET THE BONUS POINTS BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE ON OPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS NEWS WHY DID NO ONE EVER POST IT BEFORE!!!!!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Lou Bob on September 11, 2013, 02:19:24 PM
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING!!!!!!! WHAT I JUST OPENED A NEW CARD! ARE YOU TELLING ME I WONT GET THE BONUS POINTS BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE ON OPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS NEWS WHY DID NO ONE EVER POST IT BEFORE!!!!!
repost  :D
Title: Re: AMEX STARWOOD
Post by: DoGo on September 11, 2013, 02:27:03 PM
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING!!!!!!! WHAT I JUST OPENED A NEW CARD! ARE YOU TELLING ME I WONT GET THE BONUS POINTS BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE ON OPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS NEWS WHY DID NO ONE EVER POST IT BEFORE!!!!!
;D
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nytrader on September 11, 2013, 02:53:33 PM
they said I can close the card but said; " I should pay up and wait till the points hit before closing the card".
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on September 11, 2013, 03:02:01 PM
they said I can close the card but said; " I should pay up and wait till the points hit before closing the card".
Dont think he got the sarcasm
Title: Re: AMEX STARWOOD
Post by: SrulyP on September 11, 2013, 06:18:57 PM
did you guys know that if you already have an amex starwood card and you open a new one for the 30,000 point promotion you will not get the promotional points; only the points for spending on the card?

Is this true even if i opened a new SPG account and then applied for the card with my new SPG number?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 12, 2013, 09:17:30 AM
No one had issues with biz + personal 2bm, getting both bonuses ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on September 12, 2013, 09:30:19 AM
@nytrader:
I would not close the card.
Even though you probably won't get the 10k points for spending $1, you might still get the 20k points for spending $5k.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nytrader on September 12, 2013, 01:52:36 PM
I spoke to amex and they told me that I will not get any points except what I spend on the card. I had $4,500 of charges reversed and charged on my new business amex to meet the threshold
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 12, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
I spoke to amex and they told me that I will not get any points except what I spend on the card. I had $4,500 of charges reversed and charged on my new business amex to meet the threshold
Did you spend $5K and wait a month?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on September 12, 2013, 01:56:33 PM
I spoke to amex and they told me that I will not get any points except what I spend on the card. I had $4,500 of charges reversed and charged on my new business amex to meet the threshold

Speaking to them seems to be the way to ensure that you don't get the points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 12, 2013, 02:01:23 PM
Speaking to them seems to be the way to ensure that you don't get the points.
True that.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nytrader on September 12, 2013, 02:10:03 PM
I just went ahead and charged $5000 on the card, i'm going to wait a month and see what happens
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 12, 2013, 07:57:40 PM
I just went ahead and charged $5000 on the card, i'm going to wait a month and see what happens
Usually it shows pending
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on September 13, 2013, 07:19:12 AM
No one had issues with biz + personal 2bm, getting both bonuses ?
Not if you're past the 12-month timetable.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: aryeh1 on September 13, 2013, 01:45:51 PM
Did 2bm for biz+personal, registered and put in spg #, on Business card they generated new spg #

Am i better off combining them?

Title: Convert Amex SPG Biz
Post by: PETERP on September 14, 2013, 10:24:08 AM
  Called to get AF waived or GW ( or better het cxld and CL moved ) on my Amex SPG biz , And they told me I had gotten $35 already 2 months ago.

They tried to talk me into Simply Cash  5 -3 1% cash back card no pull no AF ever. Told them
Would sleep on it .
Any downside / upside to converting ?

Title: Re: Convert Amex SPG Biz
Post by: aryeh1 on September 15, 2013, 01:01:43 AM
If you don't need the spg card,  i would  convert to get annual fee refunded
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on September 16, 2013, 12:03:42 PM
Does anyone know if it is 60 or 90 days wait time with Amex for additional cards?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on September 16, 2013, 04:50:27 PM
Does anyone know if it is 60 or 90 days wait time with Amex for additional cards?
What do you mean by the wait time for additional cards?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ae123 on September 28, 2013, 09:35:24 PM
Hey, I would appreciate if you guys could help me with this.

1 - If I spent $5,000 (to get 30,000 SPG points) but did the $30 back by Shoprite (on both my card and the AU card), so my bill is $4,940, does that count as $5,000 in spending or $4,940?

2 - To meet the spending threshold, does all the spending have to be done on the primary cardholder's card or do purchases on the AU's card count too?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on September 28, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
Hey, I would appreciate if you guys could help me with this.

1 - If I spent $5,000 (to get 30,000 SPG points) but did the $30 back by Shoprite (on both my card and the AU card), so my bill is $4,940, does that count as $5,000 in spending or $4,940?

2 - To meet the spending threshold, does all the spending have to be done on the primary cardholder's card or do purchases on the AU's card count too?

Thanks!

1. I believe it will not count towards the 5k

2. Both cards count
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ae123 on September 28, 2013, 10:15:11 PM
1. I believe it will not count towards the 5k

2. Both cards count

1 - I hope you're wrong. :)

2 - I hope you're right.

Can anyone else chime in on this from their experience and/or knowledge?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on September 29, 2013, 03:01:36 AM
if your spending 5k are the $60 really gonna make or break it for you? ???
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on September 29, 2013, 03:28:51 AM
if your spending 5k are the $60 really gonna make or break it for you? ???
+1
Sounds like a telzer chakira lol


Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: NewYorker11219 on September 29, 2013, 04:07:16 AM
1 - I hope you're wrong. :)

2 - I hope you're right.

Can anyone else chime in on this from their experience and/or knowledge?
Thanks.
I recently had such an experience and I contacted AMEX they told that the Statement Credit counts like a Merchant Credit so I had to spend that amount again!!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on September 29, 2013, 04:38:18 AM
1 - I hope you're wrong. :)
I highly doubt he is.

2 - I hope you're right.
He is.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ae123 on September 29, 2013, 09:33:37 AM
1 - Ok, thanks guys.
I guess I'm going to spend another $60 to be safe.
As for the "Telzer Chakirah"; both my spouse and I did a 3bm, so there is a lot of spending to be done and everything makes a difference.
By the way, would the same hold true for my second question here (which is very similar to my question on this thread)? http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=9772.msg589512#msg589512
Thanks.

2 - If that's the consensus.....sigh of relief. :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ae123 on October 01, 2013, 11:52:19 AM
Are people having trouble getting the bonus - specifically, the 20k after 5k spend?
Rumors are that Amex is denying it for people who have a Hilton, Delta or other Amex card!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on October 01, 2013, 12:07:14 PM
Are people having trouble getting the bonus - specifically, the 20k after 5k spend?
Rumors are that Amex is denying it for people who have a Hilton, Delta or other Amex card!

where did you read this??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ae123 on October 01, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
where did you read this??

I'm not sure if links to other sites are allowed. Read the comments here:
http://thepointsguy.com/2013/09/amex-changes-mercedes-benz-platinum-card-bonus-terms-prior-platinum-cardholders-excluded/
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on October 01, 2013, 12:26:19 PM
what did the link have to do with a starwood card??, he is speaking of the mb plat card being treated now as the basic/ original plat that has a $450 fee as far as sign up bonus -- at one time u could get a bonus for each
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ae123 on October 01, 2013, 02:52:24 PM
what did the link have to do with a starwood card??, he is speaking of the mb plat card being treated now as the basic/ original plat that has a $450 fee as far as sign up bonus -- at one time u could get a bonus for each

Apparently, you didn't read the comments to the post. Take another look.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on October 01, 2013, 03:45:06 PM
Apparently, you didn't read the comments to the post. Take another look.

SORRY , I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO READ 43 POSTS ---  JUST GO BY THE T/C

 25,000 bonus Starpoints®†
 
 
If you are identified as a current American Express® Cardmember, you may not be eligible for this welcome bonus offer-- (NEVER HEARD OR READ THAT AMEX USED THIS FOR THIS CARD -- THIS IS  PUT IN FOR AN ESCAPE , NOW THEY ARE COVERED ). This offer is also not available to applicants who have had this product within the last 12 months.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on October 01, 2013, 03:50:42 PM
I had no issues getting the full amount
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ae123 on October 01, 2013, 05:17:33 PM
SORRY , I DO NOT HAVE TIME TO READ 43 POSTS ---  JUST GO BY THE T/C

 25,000 bonus Starpoints®†
 
 
If you are identified as a current American Express® Cardmember, you may not be eligible for this welcome bonus offer-- (NEVER HEARD OR READ THAT AMEX USED THIS FOR THIS CARD -- THIS IS  PUT IN FOR AN ESCAPE , NOW THEY ARE COVERED ). This offer is also not available to applicants who have had this product within the last 12 months.

Although you have never heard of it, others have - as clearly spelled out in those comments.
It's apparently an issue and I'm trying to get some feedback on here.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 02, 2013, 01:27:16 PM
i just got it on 2 new cards 25 +5 on each no issues and i have two other amex consumer cards
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on October 02, 2013, 02:18:55 PM

i just got it on 2 new cards 25 +5 on each no issues and i have two other amex consumer cards

Are they SPG cards?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 02, 2013, 02:50:10 PM
Are they SPG cards?
the two new ones? yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Yeki89 on October 02, 2013, 02:55:02 PM
same account?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on October 02, 2013, 04:31:49 PM
i just got it on 2 new cards 25 +5 on each no issues and i have two other amex consumer cards
You're being very ambiguous. Please be more clear. (What cards did you have?... What type/s did you open?...)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 02, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
You're being very ambiguous. Please be more clear. (What cards did you have?... What type/s did you open?...)
ook i"ll try this again the question was
Are people having trouble getting the bonus - specifically, the 20k after 5k spend?
Rumors are that Amex is denying it for people who have a Hilton, Delta or other Amex card!
my response
i just got it on 2 new cards 25 +5 on each no issues and i have two other amex consumer cards
i meant i just got to SPGs one business one consumer and i got the 20k (typo before when i said 25 sorry)after 5 spend on both of them even though i have a blue cash and a blue sky card. is that better?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 02, 2013, 04:46:18 PM
same account?
Ayin previos post
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on October 02, 2013, 04:48:35 PM
ook i"ll try this again the question wasmy responsei meant i just got to SPGs one business one consumer and i got the 20k (typo before when i said 25 sorry)after 5 spend on both of them even though i have a blue cash and a blue sky card. is that better?
Indeed it is. Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 02, 2013, 04:49:40 PM
Indeed it is. Thanks for the clarification.
Np
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SBS on October 02, 2013, 08:33:35 PM
I got a second SPG consumer new everything (etc), and for some reason I didn't get the bonus. Who do I speak to? Is there any hope in getting it?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on October 02, 2013, 08:45:26 PM
I got a second SPG consumer new everything (etc), and for some reason I didn't get the bonus. Who do I speak to? Is there any hope in getting it?
You didn't get the 10k or the 20k after $5k? If not, you may still stand a chance with that.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SBS on October 05, 2013, 07:41:09 PM
You didn't get the 10k or the 20k after $5k? If not, you may still stand a chance with that.

I didn't get either one (on my second card)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 05, 2013, 08:33:22 PM
I didn't get either one (on my second card)
how long after you closed the first card did you open the second?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 05, 2013, 08:37:24 PM
how long after you closed the first card did you open the second?
Sounds like within 12 months.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 05, 2013, 08:39:54 PM
Sounds like within 12 months.
exactly
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 06, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Wife's SPG is up for renewal. Any benefit in keeping it a SPG card vs changing it to a no annual fee card like the blue cash? (is that the best amex card w/o an AF?) I have my own SPG card for SPG points etc.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on October 06, 2013, 05:45:18 PM
Wife's SPG is up for renewal. Any benefit in keeping it a SPG card vs changing it to a no annual fee card like the blue cash? (is that the best amex card w/o an AF?) I have my own SPG card for SPG points etc.
Whaddya mean renewal? If you're eligible to get the bonus again why wouldn't you do SPG again?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 06, 2013, 06:05:11 PM
Whaddya mean renewal? If you're eligible to get the bonus again why wouldn't you do SPG again?
I mean the annual fee just hit. Don't want to apply for the SPG again right now.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 08, 2013, 01:24:37 PM
Does the yearly limit on returns end with the calendar year or with the cards anniversary?

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on October 08, 2013, 02:01:56 PM
Just FYI:

I opened a new SPG number with new address, and applied for another SPG card (i still have the old Personal & Business where i got the bonuses) and didn't get anything for the first purchase, it's been over a month already
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 08, 2013, 02:14:05 PM
Just FYI:

I opened a new SPG number with new address, and applied for another SPG card (i still have the old Personal & Business where i got the bonuses) and didn't get anything for the first purchase, it's been over a month already
As Dan said earlier there's a better chance you'll get the bonus for spending 5K then the first bonus.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on October 08, 2013, 03:36:52 PM
As Dan said earlier there's a better chance you'll get the bonus for spending 5K then the first bonus.



I must of missed that.

I guess i assumed if i didn't get the first bonus, then probably won't get..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 08, 2013, 03:40:45 PM
I must of missed that.

I guess i assumed if i didn't get the first bonus, then probably won't get..
Its not guaranteed tho.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on October 08, 2013, 04:09:28 PM
Its not guaranteed tho.



Sure, but still what would be the logic behind this?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 08, 2013, 06:14:54 PM
Sure, but still what would be the logic behind this?
Who said there needs to be logic? ;)

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Moshe90 on October 08, 2013, 11:10:25 PM
Dan wrote once how you buy spg points for just 0.75c , ( it was something about making a reservation , than cancel it....) has anyone the link?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on October 09, 2013, 10:48:14 PM
From Amex site:

Quote
We're making it easier to escape this fall with BIG Chicago savings. Receive a $150 statement credit when you book a minimum of 3 consecutive nights at select Chicago hotels between Oct 15 & Dec 15, 2013, with any eligible American Express® Card.

Possible PGGM?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 09, 2013, 10:58:14 PM
From Amex site:

Possible PGGM?
thats an exiting thought :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 09, 2013, 11:08:49 PM
But....Quote from offer page...TERMS AND CONDITIONS: .......  Stays must be booked and paid for with any eligible American Express Card.  After booking, you should receive a confirmation email stating that you have met the promotion requirements and are eligible for the $150 statement credit from Orbitz Worldwide. The $150 statement credit will be applied to the American Express Card used to book the original reservation. This credit will be applied 5-7 business days after the check-in date of your booking.  Statement credit is non-transferable. Fulfillment of the offer is the sole responsibility of the participating American Express merchant. .
...it could go either way..
who is going to wing it and let us know...
maybe we can get AMEX back for cutting SBS :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 09, 2013, 11:25:13 PM
here is the link http://www.choosechicago.com/articles/view/Chicago-Fall-Escape/373/ (http://www.choosechicago.com/articles/view/Chicago-Fall-Escape/373/)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 09, 2013, 11:49:30 PM
From Amex site:

Possible PGGM?
Can you please explain what PGGM stands for? (I looked for the acronym thread and couldn't find it)

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: notanonymous on October 09, 2013, 11:50:26 PM
Can you please explain what PGGM stands for? (I looked for the acronym thread and couldn't find it)
Look in AMEX Platinum $200 credit thread.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3802.0
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 10, 2013, 12:07:20 AM
Look in AMEX Platinum $200 credit thread.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=3802.0
Very helpful! I'm just not sure how we'd go about doing it in this case.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: notanonymous on October 10, 2013, 12:10:28 AM
Very helpful! I'm just not sure how we'd go about doing it in this case.
Look a few posts above, where T&C's state that the credit posts after the stay...they know about PGGM.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ahecht37 on October 10, 2013, 01:24:55 AM
is it possible to get a free hotel stay and get stays out of this promo?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on October 10, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
My SPG Annual fee just hit, any chance of getting points as retention and then cancelling?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 10, 2013, 02:50:31 PM
My SPG Annual fee just hit, any chance of getting points as retention and then cancelling?
Call, it seems unless you're doing a lot of spending you'll probably only get about 1K. Once your points post you can cancel your card.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 10, 2013, 05:49:56 PM
Is it wrong to claim only $95 on a $135 item in order that I'll be able to keep the item?

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on October 10, 2013, 06:09:24 PM
Call, it seems unless you're doing a lot of spending you'll probably only get about 1K. Once your points post you can cancel your card.



Will this work with chat also? I hate calling
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 10, 2013, 06:12:08 PM
Will this work with chat also? I hate calling
You can try... ;)

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on October 10, 2013, 07:39:52 PM
Is it wrong to claim only $95 on a $135 item in order that I'll be able to keep the item?
Try posting that in the Is It Ethical Thread  ;) .
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: notanonymous on October 10, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
Is it wrong to claim only $95 on a $135 item in order that I'll be able to keep the item?
Assuming that you got some use out of it, there could be a diminished value.  So even if it was 135 new (or replacement), perhaps your real loss was less?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 10, 2013, 10:42:01 PM
Assuming that you got some use out of it, there could be a diminished value.  So even if it was 135 new (or replacement), perhaps your real loss was less?
I did I had it for 2 months...

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: notanonymous on October 10, 2013, 11:01:46 PM
I did I had it for 2 months...
I've never used AMEX Returns, how can you claim less than what your credit card statement shows?  Don't they verify?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 11, 2013, 12:00:48 AM
I've never used AMEX Returns, how can you claim less than what your credit card statement shows?  Don't they verify?
If its under a $100 it seems they don't bother. So say I bought an item for $135 they don't know how many items I bought from the merchant for $135. So if you claim $95 they'll assume the rest was for another item or shipping (as they don't refund for shipping) and then refund you that amount. I actually just did it. I bought an item for $50 and accessories for $25 the charge showed up for $75 and I used return protection just for the $50, got it no question asked (I filed online) .
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on October 11, 2013, 11:26:05 AM
If its under a $100 it seems they don't bother. So say I bought an item for $135 they don't know how many items I bought from the merchant for $135. So if you claim $95 they'll assume the rest was for another item or shipping (as they don't refund for shipping) and then refund you that amount. I actually just did it. I bought an item for $50 and accessories for $25 the charge showed up for $75 and I used return protection just for the $50, got it no question asked (I filed online) .
You don't need to send in your actual receipt for return protection?  You only refer to the charge on the statement?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sruly on October 11, 2013, 11:29:59 AM
If its under a $100 it seems they don't bother. So say I bought an item for $135 they don't know how many items I bought from the merchant for $135. So if you claim $95 they'll assume the rest was for another item or shipping (as they don't refund for shipping) and then refund you that amount. I actually just did it. I bought an item for $50 and accessories for $25 the charge showed up for $75 and I used return protection just for the $50, got it no question asked (I filed online) .
I just claimed $145 and did not need to send receipt or product
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 11, 2013, 12:00:13 PM
You don't need to send in your actual receipt for return protection?  You only refer to the charge on the statement?
Usually,  if its under $100.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 11, 2013, 12:00:35 PM
I just claimed $145 and did not need to send receipt or product
Wow! That's great!

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on October 13, 2013, 12:44:36 AM
I've claimed one item at about $150 and another at $180 got both credits still have the item(s), no receipt needed.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 13, 2013, 12:50:36 AM
I've claimed one item at about $150 and another at $180 got both credits still have the item(s), no receipt needed.
Care to share type of items?

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on October 13, 2013, 12:58:20 AM
Several weeks ago I was approved for 2 SPGs, 1 business & 1 personal.  I entered no SPG member number on the apps so they assigned two new ones.  Then I noticed a week or two later that they had changed the number on the personal card to the one on the business card, i.e. they combined the accounts.  I got the intro bonus on both cards but when I try to login to spg.com I get an error "We cannot locate this Starwood Preferred Guest account." 
Has anybody had a similar experience?  I'm not sure how to fix this? TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 13, 2013, 11:53:14 AM
Several weeks ago I was approved for 2 SPGs, 1 business & 1 personal.  I entered no SPG member number on the apps so they assigned two new ones.  Then I noticed a week or two later that they had changed the number on the personal card to the one on the business card, i.e. they combined the accounts.  I got the intro bonus on both cards but when I try to login to spg.com I get an error "We cannot locate this Starwood Preferred Guest account." 
Has anybody had a similar experience?  I'm not sure how to fix this? TIA
i am currently having similar issue. although i had already seen them merged and accessed the account since then for some reson today its not working. im going to wait another day before i start making phone calls
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 14, 2013, 10:44:23 AM
i am currently having similar issue. although i had already seen them merged and accessed the account since then for some reson today its not working. im going to wait another day before i start making phone calls

On my chase personal vs business cards, I was given 2 separate logins. They told me I can either have 2 logins or move over all the personals to the business account. Maybe AMEX has the same story.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on October 14, 2013, 11:43:26 AM
On my chase personal vs business cards, I was given 2 separate logins. They told me I can either have 2 logins or move over all the personals to the business account. Maybe AMEX has the same story.
we arent discussing the AMEX site thats ok they always put your business and personal on the same login. its SPG thats the issue
EDIT: and its no longer an issue i just logged on without a problem and all my points were there both consumer and business
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on October 14, 2013, 01:54:23 PM
we arent discussing the AMEX site thats ok they always put your business and personal on the same login. its SPG thats the issue
EDIT: and its no longer an issue i just logged on without a problem and all my points were there both consumer and business
Same here.  Now I can log on and all the points are there.  Weird.  I do keep getting a message that there's a problem with my email set-up and to contact CS.  I don't see where to edit email address in SPG.  Is your login ID supposed to be your email?   
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 16, 2013, 05:39:27 PM

Does the yearly limit on returns end with the calendar year or with the cards anniversary?
BUMP
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Pointsanity on October 17, 2013, 09:37:38 PM
One more data point: I have a personal SPG card and was recently approved for a 2nd personal SPG card (using a new SPG #). Spent $3k so far and haven't seen the initial 10k points post. Anxious to see if the 20k points will post once I reach $5k spend.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on October 17, 2013, 09:44:24 PM
One more data point: I have a personal SPG card and was recently approved for a 2nd personal SPG card (using a new SPG #). Spent $3k so far and haven't seen the initial 10k points post. Anxious to see if the 20k points will post once I reach $5k spend.

same here
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: shimbo on October 17, 2013, 11:47:01 PM
One more data point: I have a personal SPG card and was recently approved for a 2nd personal SPG card (using a new SPG #). Spent $3k so far and haven't seen the initial 10k points post. Anxious to see if the 20k points will post once I reach $5k spend.
same here

I spent the 5k and did not get the 20k bonus.
Good Luck though
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Sowhat on October 24, 2013, 03:20:01 PM
On my chase personal vs business cards, I was given 2 separate logins. They told me I can either have 2 logins or move over all the personals to the business account. Maybe AMEX has the same story.

I was able to convince Chase not to do this.  I have separate logins.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Sowhat on October 24, 2013, 03:20:53 PM
I spent the 5k and did not get the 20k bonus.
Good Luck though

My wife opened a SPG but used my SPG number.  Will that pose a problem re the bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on October 27, 2013, 11:28:30 AM
Spending $5k in six month is from the day you are approved or activated?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on October 27, 2013, 01:23:29 PM
Spending $5k in six month is from the day you are approved or activated?
The day you apply IIRC.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Approval date.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hertzinstl on October 27, 2013, 01:36:48 PM
Approval date.
Are all CC's the same in that regard?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Mirelg on October 27, 2013, 01:46:02 PM
Are They Offering 30k Points Any Time Soon?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on October 27, 2013, 01:57:51 PM
Are They Offering 30k Points Any Time Soon?
I doubt it, it seems that offer doesn't come out that often.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on October 27, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
was checking out my starwood account and i saw this (see pic) anyone know what that means?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on October 27, 2013, 10:49:02 PM
was checking out my starwood account and i saw this (see pic) anyone know what that means?

Quote
Upgrade Your Status
Receive credit for 5 nights and 2 stays annually toward the next level of SPG Elite Status.‡
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on October 27, 2013, 11:01:09 PM

and how would i do that?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on October 27, 2013, 11:12:33 PM
I think he was explaining that you have it already. That is the other credit from Amex in your pic.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on October 28, 2013, 12:23:45 PM
I think he was explaining that you have it already. That is the other credit from Amex in your pic.
Is that what all the points from bonus r worth? Or even if I didn't reach the spend threshold I'm entitled to it?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on October 28, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
Is that what all the points from bonus r worth? Or even if I didn't reach the spend threshold I'm entitled to it?

that.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: metziah on October 28, 2013, 03:32:55 PM

I spent the 5k and did not get the 20k bonus.
Good Luck though
Me three😢
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on October 28, 2013, 08:58:30 PM
that.
how do i go about redeeming that?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on October 28, 2013, 09:24:30 PM
how do i go about redeeming that?

Oiy.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: user4 on October 28, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
I already have an spg amex business and personal.

I own another business that has credit card expenses.  I like hotel points over airline points.  I feel Hilton hotels charge too many points for their rooms.
Does starwoods  allow two business spg amex cards? and linked to one spg account?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: notanonymous on October 28, 2013, 09:39:55 PM
I already have an spg amex business and personal.

I own another business that has credit card expenses.  I like hotel points over airline points.  I feel Hilton hotels charge too many points for their rooms.
Does starwoods  allow two business spg amex cards? and linked to one spg account?
Yes, but probably no bonus (read up thread).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: user4 on October 28, 2013, 10:06:32 PM
I assumed no bonus points for the 2nd business card. I also assume that you won't get another two stay credit.

I looked at the Carlson card but in the US the hotel brands look kind of mediocre with the exception of Radisson/Radisson Blue.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 28, 2013, 10:17:35 PM
I assumed no bonus points for the 2nd business card. I also assume that you won't get another two stay credit.
It will with a new account+merge.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on October 29, 2013, 08:17:23 AM
It will with a new account+merge.
Is that in regards to both the bonus points and stay credits?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bobthebuilder on October 29, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
It will with a new account+merge.
can you merge any spg acc? (business or personal)?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mawmaw on October 29, 2013, 01:25:35 PM
applied for second spg personal  with a new spg acc paoint didn't post call amex "u already have the same card u cant get bonus again"
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on October 29, 2013, 02:21:20 PM
applied for second spg personal  with a new spg acc paoint didn't post call amex "u already have the same card u cant get bonus again"
New account numbers doesn't work with Amex...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: zsnyde on October 29, 2013, 02:21:35 PM
applied for second spg personal  with a new spg acc paoint didn't post call amex "u already have the same card u cant get bonus again"

you have to close first personal card, wait 12 months from day you close it, and apply again and you'll be eligible for the bonus points again, its in the T&C regarding receiving bonus points after 12 months. my wife did this and she received the bonus points for the second time. I was told that it was from day you apply for first card, so after i closed it, i only waited 3 months, opened a second personal, and points never posted, i sent a PM and told me i wasn't eligible since i've had the card within last 3 months
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hertzinstl on October 29, 2013, 02:43:36 PM
you have to close first personal card, wait 12 months from day you close it, and apply again and you'll be eligible for the bonus points again, its in the T&C regarding receiving bonus points after 12 months. my wife did this and she received the bonus points for the second time. I was told that it was from day you apply for first card, so after i closed it, i only waited 3 months, opened a second personal, and points never posted, i sent a PM and told me i wasn't eligible since i've had the card within last 3 months
Is there no other way to churn it?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on October 29, 2013, 02:56:46 PM
Is there no other way to churn it?

Have your wife apply 6 months after you so you can stagger?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmulyg on October 29, 2013, 03:16:01 PM
Is there no other way to churn it?
Rotate between biz and personal.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: brotha123 on October 31, 2013, 11:03:51 PM
Hope someone could help me out with this..Im been searching around but havent found a clear answer.I downgraded an Amex card to a no fee card...Do i have to wait 12 months from the downgrade to re-apply and get the bonus or would it be 12 months from when i would cancel the no fee card???thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Mtl18 on October 31, 2013, 11:04:18 PM
I'm getting fed up with the exorbitant foreign fees when I use my card for a Canadian purchase. Currently I have SPG (which I use almost always) and chase freedom. I would prefer not having three credit cards but I'll make the exception if there is one which is free and has no foreign transaction fees. Any tips? Thanks.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 31, 2013, 11:06:56 PM
I'm getting fed up with the exorbitant foreign fees when I use my card for a Canadian purchase. Currently I have SPG (which I use almost always) and chase freedom. I would prefer not having three credit cards but I'll make the exception if there is one which is free and has no foreign transaction fees. Any tips? Thanks.
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/SapphirePreferred1/
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/InkPlus1/
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 03, 2013, 08:39:03 AM
how do i go about redeeming that?

Your question... Answered just for you?

http://millionmilesecrets.com/2013/11/03/reader-question-does-the-5-night-credit-from-the-starwood-card-mean-5-free-nights/
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on November 03, 2013, 04:39:48 PM
Your question... Answered just for you?

http://millionmilesecrets.com/2013/11/03/reader-question-does-the-5-night-credit-from-the-starwood-card-mean-5-free-nights/
Thanks AJK!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on November 06, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
I assumed no bonus points for the 2nd business card. I also assume that you won't get another two stay credit.

I looked at the Carlson card but in the US the hotel brands look kind of mediocre with the exception of Radisson/Radisson Blue.


IME you will get extra stay credits for each card you have, iv'e had 4 at the same time go credits for all
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on November 07, 2013, 03:08:19 AM
Applied for my wife, spend 5K $ ,
and now they claim I never had the 25.000 promotion!

I did get the 10.000 for first purchase.

Spoke to 3 representatives, but no go (they all understood that I am right but the most they wear able to give me was 1K SPG )

Did anyone have experience with it, and was successful?
TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on November 07, 2013, 09:26:18 AM
Applied for my wife, spend 5K $ ,
and now they claim I never had the 25.000 promotion!

I did get the 10.000 for first purchase.

Spoke to 3 representatives, but no go (they all understood that I am right but the most they wear able to give me was 1K SPG )

Did anyone have experience with it, and was successful?
TIA
screen shot?

When I take mine, I include the date on the bottom bar of my computer.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on November 08, 2013, 02:53:25 AM
screen shot?

When I take mine, I include the date on the bottom bar of my computer.
No screen shot. 
But I could create one.   ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on November 08, 2013, 02:58:23 AM
No screen shot. 
But I could create one.   ;)
No-one else has one??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: world2see on November 12, 2013, 07:39:00 AM
applied for business spg and only got 8k spending limit-whats the best way going about getting an increase? thanks!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on November 12, 2013, 07:44:33 AM
applied for business spg and only got 8k spending limit-whats the best way going about getting an increase? thanks!
Why do you need an increase? 8k CL is really like a 100k CL for the month.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on November 12, 2013, 09:10:03 AM
Why do you need an increase? 8k CL is really like a 100k CL for the month.
I thought spending your CL more than once a month was a risk for FR.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: raphy781 on November 12, 2013, 09:26:26 AM
I thought spending your CL more than once a month was a risk for FR.
IIRC it was discussed as a potential AA risk not a FR risk. CMIIW
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2013, 09:47:15 AM
Its definitely an f/r risk.
But an f/r is usually not too bad.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on November 12, 2013, 10:11:13 AM
While on this topic... Dan, I asked you during the break at DDS CLE what to do about the fact that AMEX gave me a puny 2k CL on my SPG. You didn't really have any eitzos for me at the time. Now that you are not standing on one foot...

What do I do if I have 21 (!) years of unbroken history of on-time payments with AMEX? Problem is that 21 yrs is on a charge card with no CL. I've been rejected for a credit increase and I requested recon which is currently pending. How can I use SPG for everyday spend (as you recommended at the seminar) when my CL is tiny?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on November 12, 2013, 10:45:57 AM
Its definitely an f/r risk.
The question is how big of a risk. I have been doing it for a long time so my guess is it did not trigger my FR.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Bostener on November 12, 2013, 01:49:27 PM
The question is how big of a risk. I have been doing it for a long time so my guess is it did not trigger my FR.

True, you just don't say how many times you have been A/A ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ayman on November 12, 2013, 01:51:01 PM
lol
But thats a diff bank
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2013, 02:07:12 PM
The question is how big of a risk. I have been doing it for a long time so my guess is it did not trigger my FR.
How do you know which factors triggered your FR?

While on this topic... Dan, I asked you during the break at DDS CLE what to do about the fact that AMEX gave me a puny 2k CL on my SPG. You didn't really have any eitzos for me at the time. Now that you are not standing on one foot...

What do I do if I have 21 (!) years of unbroken history of on-time payments with AMEX? Problem is that 21 yrs is on a charge card with no CL. I've been rejected for a credit increase and I requested recon which is currently pending. How can I use SPG for everyday spend (as you recommended at the seminar) when my CL is tiny?
As I said then, you can prepay and churn through the line as long as you filed a tax return showing income.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on November 12, 2013, 04:24:53 PM
How do you know which factors triggered your FR?
You never know for sure so you go off what data points you have. We have a laundry list of triggers for a FR from Amex. Many have violated the whole list numerous times and have not received a FR. I was one of them until recently. To say that churning your CL is the reason I received a FR would be a stretch. My theory is the biggest reason one gets FR’d is the credit profile of the individual. While triggers A, B or C will get person #1 a FR they have no bearing on person #2.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2013, 06:51:58 PM
My wife recently got an F/R for making one purchase that used most of her CL.
A fortiori...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: world2see on November 13, 2013, 07:26:12 AM
Why do you need an increase? 8k CL is really like a 100k CL for the month.
Explain please:) if i spend 8k at a pop and pay it before the next 8k?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on November 13, 2013, 07:44:49 AM
Explain please:) if i spend 8k at a pop and pay it before the next 8k?
Correct but let it post before you pay it off. Many here will tell you this will cause a FR. IMHO and IME this is not the case. Other more important factors are at work that causes this. If just received your first Amex card and plan on churning your CL 10x the first month then you should expect a FR. Also if you were truthful on your app a FR is actually a good thing.

PSA: Please only try this if you have a long credit history. I would hate to see anyone shutdown.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hertzinstl on November 13, 2013, 07:52:28 AM
Also if you were truthful on your app a FR is actually a good thing.
Why?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on November 13, 2013, 07:57:11 AM
Why?
The belief is that if you churn your CL it will/can result in FR. Logic would seem to dictate that you are now on their radar and if you do it again they will shut you down. IME the opposite is true. You can now churn your CL even more times a month over at least the next year.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: hertzinstl on November 13, 2013, 08:01:31 AM
The belief is that if you churn your CL it will/can result in FR. Logic would seem to dictate that you are now on their radar and if you do it again they will shut you down. IME the opposite is true. You can now churn your CL even more times a month over at least the next year.
According to what you're saying, if I got an FR and passed. I'm good to go for "spending" on AP?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on November 13, 2013, 03:25:27 PM
According to what you're saying, if I got an FR and passed. I'm good to go for "spending" on AP?

AP is it's own risk, so follow the AP best practices. But as far as Amex is concerned, you should be OK.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bobthebuilder on November 13, 2013, 03:30:05 PM
AP is it's own risk, so follow the AP best practices. But as far as Amex is concerned, you should be OK.
AP is shutting folks down right and left... its not an amex issue anymore
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: world2see on November 13, 2013, 07:31:27 PM
Correct but let it post before you pay it off. Many here will tell you this will cause a FR. IMHO and IME this is not the case. Other more important factors are at work that causes this. If just received your first Amex card and plan on churning your CL 10x the first month then you should expect a FR. Also if you were truthful on your app a FR is actually a good thing.

PSA: Please only try this if you have a long credit history. I would hate to see anyone shutdown.
Thank You!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on November 21, 2013, 09:27:04 PM
I thought I read that when opening an SPG amex with additional user cards that each card is eligible for the bonus on its own...is that correct?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: notanonymous on November 21, 2013, 09:28:19 PM
I thought I read that when opening an SPG amex with additional user cards that each card is eligible for the bonus on its own...is that correct?
No.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jauss10 on December 03, 2013, 02:40:08 PM
Dan - I am having the same issue as someone else who mentioned this earlier. I applied for a starwood business and spg for me and my wife (4 cards total) during the big promotion over the summer. I hit my spends on all 4 but they are saying you can only get one 20k bonus per cardmember. I chated with multiple agents and they seem to be holding the line. is there anything else to do?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: fradl on December 05, 2013, 10:06:29 AM
When my free year was almost up, I downgraded my spg card to a free blue card. If I want to apply for a new spg, do I have to wait for 12 months since the downgrade, or do I have to cancel the blue card and wait 12 months? TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on December 05, 2013, 10:09:51 AM
When my free year was almost up, I downgraded my spg card to a free blue card. If I want to apply for a new spg, do I have to wait for 12 months since the downgrade, or do I have to cancel the blue card and wait 12 months? TIA
That.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: fradl on December 05, 2013, 11:12:22 AM
Thanks so much for replying and helping. This is another reason I love dans deals. You are all out there to help one another. Much Hakoras HaTov to you
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on December 05, 2013, 11:36:43 AM
Thanks so much for replying and helping. This is another reason I love dans deals. You are all out there to help one another. Much Hakoras HaTov to you
You're welcome :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shlomie91 on December 05, 2013, 01:25:23 PM
I am going away for the weekend, I really want the executive suite. I am a SPG gold member so upon availability I should be upgraded from the junior suite to the executive suite. Should I just book the junior suite and risk there not being an executive suite available for upgrade? Or has anyone ever booked a junior suite and an executive suite on 2 different names and if the upgrade is available I can cancel the reservation for the executive suite(Cancellation policy for this hotel is 6PM day of reservation)?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Ddawg on December 05, 2013, 04:13:51 PM
When my free year was almost up, I downgraded my spg card to a free blue card. If I want to apply for a new spg, do I have to wait for 12 months since the downgrade, or do I have to cancel the blue card and wait 12 months? TIA
So whats the answer? Does one have to wait, if so how long?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bobthebuilder on December 05, 2013, 04:15:02 PM
So whats the answer? Does one have to wait, if so how long?
Hamavin Yavin
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: adam0619 on December 15, 2013, 11:28:44 PM
Is it possible to cancel a transfer of SPG points before the transfer is completed?  TIA!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mawmaw on December 16, 2013, 12:18:40 AM
Is it possible to cancel a transfer of SPG points before the transfer is completed?  TIA!
some times but YMMV
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: adam0619 on December 16, 2013, 12:41:00 AM
some times but YMMV

Thanks. 

UPDATE Backstory: my wife needed a flight to Israel last minute and transferred SPG points to Delta (please, spare the comments on Skypesos being worthless and how wasteful it is to transfer SPG points to Delta.  When you're in a pinch and you need the flight and SPG is the currency that will take you there, Skypesos fit the bill when others couldn't in this situation).  After she made the transfer, she got the confirmation that it could take "up to four weeks" to transfer the points.  It's Sunday night, and she needs to fly out next Monday (7 days).  Needless to say she was upset, and rather anxious.

The possibilities we considered were: (1) waiting to see if the points would transfer within two days, as reported by numerous users; (2) call SPG and request the transfer be expedited; (3) call SPG and request that the transfer be cancelled, since the points didn't yet post to Delta.

A wrinkle thrown into the mix: the Delta flight was 145K points, and she needed to transfer 120K SPG points to get it.  Since you can only transfer 79,999 SPG points in any 24-hour period, she would have to make 2 transfers 24 hours apart at 60K a piece.  She was nervous that even if the first transfer would post in 2 days, the second transfer might not post in 2 days, or the award flight would no longer be available by the time the points transferred in 3+ days. 

We decided to call SPG.  My wife spoke with a very helpful agent who explained that, unfortunately, the transfer could not be expedited. While transfers normally cannot be canceled, she would be able to cancel my wife's transfer because the transfer was made recently (only a few hours prior). 

The points were back in her SPG account 2 mins after she hung up with the SPG agent. 

My wife ended up booking through SPGflights.com, which again, I realize is not a good exchange rate for the SPG points, but when the flight is necessary and it gets her to Israel on time, and it makes her happy, it's worth every penny in my book. 

Lesson learned: When in a pinch, it's always worth calling the agent to ask.
 

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mawmaw on December 16, 2013, 12:43:56 AM
if transfer is not completed one most likely be able to get his points back but as always YMMV
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on December 16, 2013, 01:08:02 AM
Thanks. 

UPDATE Backstory: my wife needed a flight to Israel last minute

........

My wife ended up booking through SPGflights.com, which again, I realize is not a good exchange rate for the SPG points, but when the flight is necessary and it gets her to Israel on time, and it makes her happy, it's worth every penny in my book. 

Lesson learned: When in a pinch, it's always worth calling the agent to ask.
I'm glad it worked out for you.  It's always nice to hear a happy story.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on December 17, 2013, 10:41:41 PM
I just had my first late payment with amex. It was a small payment- under 100 on a 8k limit.

How should i proceed? (Obviously i paid it off by now, but i got a letter from them).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on December 17, 2013, 10:48:24 PM
I just had my first late payment with amex. It was a small payment- under 100 on a 8k limit.

How should i proceed? (Obviously i paid it off by now, but i got a letter from them).
how late?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on December 17, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
how late?

i think 2 days..... i got a letter that i had triggered an APR rate on my account.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on December 17, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
i think 2 days..... i got a letter that i had triggered an APR rate on my account.

Message them. My friend got them to reverse it because it was his first time.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on December 17, 2013, 11:14:23 PM
Message them. My friend got them to reverse it because it was his first time.

Alex: Let me check the Penalty APR for you.
Alex: I have a great news for you!
Alex: I have successfully stopped the Penalty APR from your account.
Alex: It will be effective immedietely.
you: ok thanks so much

Thank u!  ;D
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on December 18, 2013, 12:31:09 AM
Alex: Let me check the Penalty APR for you.
Alex: I have a great news for you!
Alex: I have successfully stopped the Penalty APR from your account.
Alex: It will be effective immedietely.
you: ok thanks so much

Thank u!  ;D
Baruch hashem
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bobthebuilder on December 19, 2013, 07:59:35 AM
can i transfer SPG points from a friends acct to my acct? If yes then how?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: emak on December 19, 2013, 08:04:53 AM
Need to have the same address. You could change the address on the account, but shouldn't transfer the points immediately afterwards.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: noturbizniss on December 20, 2013, 12:06:13 PM
So, it looks like I can convert my spg personal card to a blue cash, but what about the business card? Can that be converted to a fee free card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: moishatdansdeals on December 28, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
I got the Amex starwood card about 5 years ago. I collected and used the points. Can I resign up and receive the bonus again?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HP58 on December 28, 2013, 08:27:17 PM
I got the Amex starwood card about 5 years ago. I collected and used the points. Can I resign up and receive the bonus again?
If you haven't had it for 12 months (i.e. You canceled 12 months ago).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on January 01, 2014, 10:28:43 AM
I am transferring spg points for the fly/stay promo (spend 60SPg get 5 nights & 50K miles)

What airline is the best to transfer to? I don't fly that much, usually 2-3 times a year. I currently have AA and some united.

TY
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bobzilla on January 01, 2014, 11:30:27 AM

I am transferring spg points for the fly/stay promo (spend 60SPg get 5 nights & 50K miles)

What airline is the best to transfer to? I don't fly that much, usually 2-3 times a year. I currently have AA and some united.

TY

What promo is this?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Zevwolf on January 01, 2014, 03:17:57 PM
what's the minimum MR points to transfer to SPG?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: killamatic12 on January 01, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
this is my 1st question ever here so i apologize if its in the wrong spot but i just got a freedom card and i want to get a preferred card within the year. my CL is only 1200, should i try and ask to raise my CL so it will be easier to get the preferred later?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 01, 2014, 04:21:22 PM
this is my 1st question ever here so i apologize if its in the wrong spot but i just got a freedom card and i want to get a preferred card within the year. my CL is only 1200, should i try and ask to raise my CL so it will be easier to get the preferred later?

Welcome.
Is this your first card?

Also, why would this go in the Amex thread? Hmm
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on January 01, 2014, 04:26:18 PM
Welcome.
Is this your first card?

Also, why would this go in the Amex thread? Hmm
;)
#thankgodhedidntstartanewthread

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: killamatic12 on January 01, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Welcome.
Is this your first card?

Also, why would this go in the Amex thread? Hmm
     this is my 3rd card. 1st one was under someone. 2nd is capitol one 2k CL and 3rd is this. btw sry about posting in AMEX. i know its a crime here haha
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on January 01, 2014, 05:54:54 PM
What promo is this?

Standard SPG promo
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on January 01, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
How much can i sell my spg points for?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on January 01, 2014, 06:21:37 PM
How much can i sell my spg points for?
70K for 1.8

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on January 01, 2014, 08:48:43 PM
70K for 1.8


I got offer for 1.6 where can u get 1.8?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on January 01, 2014, 08:51:57 PM
Does it pay to transfer 25k starwood to lufthansa and get bonus 5k points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mod on January 01, 2014, 08:58:54 PM
Does it pay to transfer 25k starwood to lufthansa and get bonus 5k points?
Depends on what you are doing with miles
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on January 01, 2014, 09:02:08 PM
Depends on what you are doing with miles
I have 55k lufthansa and 30k starwood interested in selling was told that if transfer 25k spg to lh i'll have 85k lh then lh be more worth
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on January 01, 2014, 09:04:52 PM
How will they be valuing the Spg? As lh or spg?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on January 01, 2014, 09:12:06 PM
As lh. said that for 85k lh could give 1.6 smaller acct 1.5
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on January 01, 2014, 09:18:42 PM
1.6 for lh is pretty good please pm me who this is your selling to
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: berele on January 02, 2014, 03:13:12 PM
I'm looking into applying for either the starwood card or premier rewards gold. I don't really make enough points in a year to afford flights and hotels from them, so I mainly use my points for flights.I mostly use my freedom/ sapphire and am thinking that perhaps for ne t he premier rewards gold card might make more sense because I can earn points much faster through their 2× points in supermarkets, even though for everthing else starwood is better, but for most other things I use freedom or sapphire. Can soneone help guide me to the right decision?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 02, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
I'm looking into applying for either the starwood card or premier rewards gold. I don't really make enough points in a year to afford flights and hotels from them, so I mainly use my points for flights.I mostly use my freedom/ sapphire and am thinking that perhaps for ne t he premier rewards gold card might make more sense because I can earn points much faster through their 2× points in supermarkets, even though for everthing else starwood is better, but for most other things I use freedom or sapphire. Can soneone help guide me to the right decision?

Dan seems to think that SPG points are worth more than AMEX MR points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: berele on January 02, 2014, 03:44:16 PM
Dan seems to think that SPG points are worth more than AMEX MR points.
I agree but I'm wondering if their main value is for hotels or even for flights they're more valuable? Also, even if they're more valuable for flights as well, are they enough that it justifies me getting half the amount I would get in Membership rewards?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 02, 2014, 03:47:57 PM
I agree but I'm wondering if their main value is for hotels or even for flights they're more valuable? Also, even if they're more valuable for flights as well, are they enough that it justifies me getting half the amount I would get in Membership rewards?

Good question. They have more transfer partners to airlines than MR. CMIIW
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: berele on January 02, 2014, 03:53:33 PM
Good question. They have more transfer partners to airlines than MR. CMIIW
sorry for the noob question but what's CMIIW?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 02, 2014, 03:54:43 PM
sorry for the noob question but what's CMIIW?

My way of asking the actual experts to Correct Me If I'm Wrong
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on January 02, 2014, 03:57:01 PM

I agree but I'm wondering if their main value is for hotels or even for flights they're more valuable? Also, even if they're more valuable for flights as well, are they enough that it justifies me getting half the amount I would get in Membership rewards?
If you get a 50K sign up as opposed to a 25K SPG sign up I would go with the 50K MR.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: berele on January 02, 2014, 04:02:58 PM
If you get a 50K sign up as opposed to a 25K SPG sign up I would go with the 50K MR.
how do I get the 50k signup bonus? I thought the promotion is over?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: berele on January 02, 2014, 04:05:15 PM
If you get a 50K sign up as opposed to a 25K SPG sign up I would go with the 50K MR.
otherwise you would go for the spg you're saying. Can you explain why you consider 35k spg points worth more than 45k MR points besides for hotel benefits?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: cozmohoot on January 08, 2014, 10:07:06 AM
my starwood AF is coming up. what do most folks here do? i dont really use the card.
i also have PRG AF coming up.
i am not ready for any AOR to use them as leverage..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 08, 2014, 10:39:10 AM
If you get a 50K sign up as opposed to a 25K SPG sign up I would go with the 50K MR.
true but if he transfers his 25K spg to flights, it could be worth 30K for certain airlines...
Plus, 25K goes a long way for a bunch of half-decent 4K (4Points, Sheratons) hotel rooms.... 7-8 nights if he does some APay, etc...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SBS on January 08, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
How do you churn SPG? Can't find it.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 08, 2014, 11:31:36 AM
How do you churn SPG? Can't find it.
can't, need to wait 12 months... or get a biz account, (they don't even let 2 biz accts for same person for bonus pts..  :( )
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SBS on January 08, 2014, 01:58:06 PM
can't, need to wait 12 months... or get a biz account, (they don't even let 2 biz accts for same person for bonus pts..  :( )

Wait 12 months without any card? or have each card for 12 months?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 08, 2014, 02:04:55 PM
Wait 12 months without any card? or have each card for 12 months?

if you always want an SPG and are married, you can stagger SPG reg and biz between you and your wife so you have 4 cards to play with
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 08, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
if you always want an SPG and are married, you can stagger SPG reg and biz between you and your wife so you have 4 cards to play with
ye but if married then you use more points and then need more points...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Lou Bob on January 08, 2014, 02:40:22 PM
ye but if married then you use more points and then need more points...
nope. Double the points, same amount being used...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on January 08, 2014, 02:47:49 PM
nope. Double the points, same amount being used...

Only if stay in same room --LOL!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 08, 2014, 03:52:28 PM
Only if stay in same room --LOL!
yes, same room, but maybe more frequent travels/higher categories, business trips.. more luxury.... so more points..  or not... 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Zevwolf on January 13, 2014, 03:35:51 PM
how long after statement closes do the points post in your SPG account?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 13, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
how long after statement closes do the points post in your SPG account?
IIRC very soon after - if I want sooner, sometimes I pay in advance, I think they show up faster
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on January 14, 2014, 09:39:34 AM
Is there a annual spending limit on the SPG that gives you upgraded status?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: myb821 on January 14, 2014, 09:53:28 AM
Is there a annual spending limit on the SPG that gives you upgraded status?
you can get gold status i believe. But you can also just call and ask and often spg will give you gold status
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on January 14, 2014, 10:25:57 AM
you can get gold status i believe. But you can also just call and ask and often spg will give you gold status
thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rynocity on January 14, 2014, 10:28:27 AM
you can get gold status i believe. But you can also just call and ask and often spg will give you gold status

What do you say to get them to upgrade you to gold?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 14, 2014, 11:24:04 AM
What do you say to get them to upgrade you to gold?

please
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 14, 2014, 11:52:35 AM
you can get gold status i believe. But you can also just call and ask and often spg will give you gold status
maybe but does that get your account to post the actual 10 stays for gold and then only 15 more stays for platinum? (or do you need to earn all 25? For the new year 2014, i'm at 4 stays so far)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 14, 2014, 12:55:28 PM
maybe but does that get your account to post the actual 10 stays for gold and then only 15 more stays for platinum? (or do you need to earn all 25? For the new year 2014, i'm at 4 stays so far)

you get 5 days towards status when you open the SPG card. when you get a courtesy upgrade you don't get any more days
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 14, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
you get 5 days towards status when you open the SPG card. when you get a courtesy upgrade you don't get any more days
+1
k thnx.
i already see/got the benefits of plat and gotta start the work now to keep it up for next year, iyH...
ideally the #50 this time to get the 10 suite certs...  so it's an avg of approx 4 nights per month..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Agasdf88 on January 19, 2014, 12:21:52 AM
I find myself with a problem and I was wondering if anyone has any advice.
 
My wife and I got the SPG card during the 30K period this summer, one day apart but both within the promo period.  We enrolled on the website directly.  We both got our 10K after the first purchase and my wife got her 20K after hitting $5K spent, but I didn't.  I hadn't had the card within 12 months and there seems to be no other issues that may affect my standing.  I have spoken to Amex many many times about this and every time i eventually get them to see that I should have it and don't..  I have had several managers open "inquiries" on the issue and the latest one was answered by AMEX saying I was eligible for 10K after my first purchase and i got it.. case closed.  This completely missed the part that i should be eligible for the other bonus..
 
I can't seem to get anywhere with them on this.  I always ask how could I NOT be eligible for a second bonus (even 15K) as its advertised on their website for all applicants??
 
Any thoughts of ideas would be helpful
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 19, 2014, 12:32:41 AM
I find myself with a problem and I was wondering if anyone has any advice.
 
My wife and I got the SPG card during the 30K period this summer, one day apart but both within the promo period.  We enrolled on the website directly.  We both got our 10K after the first purchase and my wife got her 20K after hitting $5K spent, but I didn't.  I hadn't had the card within 12 months and there seems to be no other issues that may affect my standing.  I have spoken to Amex many many times about this and every time i eventually get them to see that I should have it and don't..  I have had several managers open "inquiries" on the issue and the latest one was answered by AMEX saying I was eligible for 10K after my first purchase and i got it.. case closed.  This completely missed the part that i should be eligible for the other bonus..
 
I can't seem to get anywhere with them on this.  I always ask how could I NOT be eligible for a second bonus (even 15K) as its advertised on their website for all applicants??
 
Any thoughts of ideas would be helpful

Do you have a screenshot of the offer you signed up for?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on January 19, 2014, 01:03:47 AM
Is there a possibility some of your spending was considered a cash advance?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Agasdf88 on January 20, 2014, 12:10:50 PM
Do you have a screenshot of the offer you signed up for?

No I didn' think to grab one back then
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Agasdf88 on January 20, 2014, 12:12:27 PM
Is there a possibility some of your spending was considered a cash advance?

I don't think so. Even if some of it was, I have long since doubled and tripled the 5K spending on definite qualifying purchases.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on January 20, 2014, 11:18:55 PM
my starwood AF is coming up. what do most folks here do? i dont really use the card.
i also have PRG AF coming up.
i am not ready for any AOR to use them as leverage..
I just downgraded my SPG to a blue cash (Now I have 2 blue cash).

and canceled my PRG.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: A European on January 20, 2014, 11:19:56 PM
@Agasdf88

I had the same problem with no luck :(
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Buruch on January 21, 2014, 07:46:37 PM
Does amex shut you down for buying a ton of vr with spg card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 21, 2014, 07:48:15 PM
Does amex shut you down for buying a ton of vr with spg card?

Potentially, yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Buruch on January 21, 2014, 08:00:20 PM
And how much is considered a ton? 10k per month. 20? Also, the reason I ask in this thread is I want to know if they're more strict with this card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on January 21, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
why are they so stingy with giving credit on spg cards? i apply in a 3bm and was given a CL 3x my spg
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on January 22, 2014, 09:19:56 AM
Potentially, yes.
Shut you down or F/R?

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: lifetimedeals on January 23, 2014, 10:55:13 PM
Does it make sense to downgrade Amex SPG card to the blue cash card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 24, 2014, 09:53:32 AM
Does it make sense to downgrade Amex SPG card to the blue cash card?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=271.msg699951#msg699951
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on January 27, 2014, 01:43:30 PM
@Agasdf88

I had the same problem with no luck :(

Me too. Best I could get them to do after a ton of phone calls was offer me 3k SPG points.

One thing I noticed every time I called is they first would ask me for the promo code. Being that I applied through a link from this site I didn't have a code, but eventually I was able to figure out what the code was on my wife's app. Maybe next time they ask I'll just give them that code, but I doubt it'll work.

Only thing I can think of is something going wrong with the cache, but I'm pretty sure I remember applying for the cards on separate computers. One way or another, I take screen shots of every app now.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on January 28, 2014, 12:40:50 AM
Weird!  I posted this earlier and someone replied to it, but they were deleted off of this thread: Any promos higher than 25k SP that's currently being given?  Someone answered about an extra 5k SP.  Did I do something wrong?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2014, 12:43:35 AM
There is no extra 5k.
25k is the best current sign up offer.
DDF rules can be found here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=31.0
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: zach on January 28, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
I applied for the spg card eventhough I already had a spg card that I got 5 years ago. I already hit the needed spending. I thought it would squeeze through to get the signup bonus bec I hadnt got the bonus in so many yrs. I only got the 25k pts signup 5 yrs ago and they dont want to give it to me again. Is there any chance of getting them to give it to me? I have a good history with them with pretty decent spending and not much churning. Has anyone been successful with HUCA?
Thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on January 28, 2014, 08:42:50 AM
I applied for the spg card eventhough I already had a spg card that I got 5 years ago. I already hit the needed spending. I thought it would squeeze through to get the signup bonus bec I hadnt got the bonus in so many yrs. I only got the 25k pts signup 5 yrs ago and they dont want to give it to me again. Is there any chance of getting them to give it to me? I have a good history with them with pretty decent spending and not much churning. Has anyone been successful with HUCA?
Thanks

Did you cancel old card or did you apply with same spg card , sounds like you have "exact "same card -- if did not cancel card b4 you applied think very small chance will get  25k -- did you get 10k for first spend on new card ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: zach on January 28, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
I didnt cancel my old spg. I didnt get the 10k for first spend either.

 :(
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on January 28, 2014, 09:59:15 AM
I didnt cancel my old spg. I didnt get the 10k for first spend either.

 :(

think it will be up hill all the way and you may not reach the top--- but you have nothing to lose to write a  e/m to the president of amx and plead your case -- if it were me --I would send a letter by snail mail --

not  to criticize -- you need to read the t/c when u apply ---amex is very clear on who can not get a bonus -- and on top of that they have some very open ended wording that allows them to reject for almost any reason -- like said not a thing to lose by contacting the pres.  -

stay on dans and read read read
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: zach on January 28, 2014, 11:29:45 AM
They always have fine print that says they can  deny bonus for any reason if your an amex client already. And yes I did see that if you had the spg card its also an exclusion, however I saw many people (dan included) that said they got multiple signup bonuses for spg so I figured it wasnt a hard policy. Now I am starting to figure they are doing business cards not consumer.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on January 28, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
They always have fine print that says they can  deny bonus for any reason if your an amex client already. And yes I did see that if you had the spg card its also an exclusion, however I saw many people (dan included) that said they got multiple signup bonuses for spg so I figured it wasnt a hard policy. Now I am starting to figure they are doing business cards not consumer.

I think it would be wise to follow the amex t/c -- they have changed  and are "watching" and give nothing away  that they do not need to

want to stay out of trouble-- dan is unlike anyone  else -- he is treated different than us ordinary mortals ----- he can do what no other can --loves to reply with as few words as possible so hard to figure out "how" he does it

and sometimes people on dans confuse -- when u read u think they are speaking for them self later you find out the are doing that 2nd card for a brother -mother -friend
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on January 28, 2014, 02:39:36 PM
want to stay out of trouble-- dan is unlike anyone  else -- he is treated different than us ordinary mortals ----- he can do what no other can --loves to reply with as few words as possible so hard to figure out "how" he does it
;D
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: YY on January 28, 2014, 07:55:58 PM
anyone know of the best amex starwood bonus these days ?
Can I get it even if I still have an Amex platinum or green card ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2014, 08:17:41 PM
anyone know of the best amex starwood bonus these days ?
Can I get it even if I still have an Amex platinum or green card ?
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/starwood1/
Yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on January 28, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
New to starwoods, never redeemed points yet, couldnt find anywhere explaining how to redeem, i want to book a starwood hotel, how do i go about this?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: YY on January 29, 2014, 01:03:07 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/starwood1/
Yes.
thanks, it seems to say when I click the link that if I am a current American express customer the deal may not apply to me.
The deal I am seeing is 10k points to start and no annual fee first year.
when I go incognito I see 25k.

should I go incognito and not mention I am a current amex customer ? or is this deal only 10k since I am a current customer?


Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on January 29, 2014, 03:17:06 AM
thanks, it seems to say when I click the link that if I am a current American express customer the deal may not apply to me.
The deal I am seeing is 10k points to start and no annual fee first year.
when I go incognito I see 25k.

should I go incognito and not mention I am a current amex customer ? or is this deal only 10k since I am a current customer?
the deal should be 25K for everyone.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on January 29, 2014, 03:18:30 AM
thanks, it seems to say when I click the link that if I am a current American express customer the deal may not apply to me.
The deal I am seeing is 10k points to start and no annual fee first year.
when I go incognito I see 25k.

should I go incognito and not mention I am a current amex customer ? or is this deal only 10k since I am a current customer?

I TOO SEE


"You have been identified as a current American Express Card Member. You may have seen an offer advertised for this product previously, but the offer is not available to current American Express Card Members."

Is this a new rule ,b4 it was "may not"
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 29, 2014, 08:17:14 AM
thanks, it seems to say when I click the link that if I am a current American express customer the deal may not apply to me.
The deal I am seeing is 10k points to start and no annual fee first year.
when I go incognito I see 25k.

should I go incognito and not mention I am a current amex customer ? or is this deal only 10k since I am a current customer?

IME if you apply incognito you will get the full bonus. make sure to take a screenshot just in case.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ethana on January 31, 2014, 01:15:04 PM
If I already have the Starwoods card, can I apply incognito and get the sign up bonus? Would I leave the Starwoods number blank?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on January 31, 2014, 02:49:20 PM
If I already have the Starwoods card, can I apply incognito and get the sign up bonus? Would I leave the Starwoods number blank?

no
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on January 31, 2014, 04:28:34 PM
If I already have the Starwoods card, can I apply incognito and get the sign up bonus? Would I leave the Starwoods number blank?
the way it could work is one personal SPG card and one business SPG card per person.
2 total bonuses. 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on February 01, 2014, 12:44:03 PM
If I already have the Starwoods card, can I apply incognito and get the sign up bonus? Would I leave the Starwoods number blank?
IME they'll find your SPG number.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on February 01, 2014, 07:20:00 PM
If I already have the Starwoods card, can I apply incognito and get the sign up bonus? Would I leave the Starwoods number blank?

is your current starwoods card active?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on February 01, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
IME they'll find your SPG number.

i agree with this but whats with Dan not having this apply to him? or is it just MR where it doesnt?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 01, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
IME they'll find your SPG number.
did u put in a new FF#?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Agasdf88 on February 01, 2014, 09:57:36 PM
Me too. Best I could get them to do after a ton of phone calls was offer me 3k SPG points.

One thing I noticed every time I called is they first would ask me for the promo code. Being that I applied through a link from this site I didn't have a code, but eventually I was able to figure out what the code was on my wife's app. Maybe next time they ask I'll just give them that code, but I doubt it'll work.

Only thing I can think of is something going wrong with the cache, but I'm pretty sure I remember applying for the cards on separate computers. One way or another, I take screen shots of every app now.

Hmm. What was the promo code?  I guess i'll try that too next time i call
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on February 02, 2014, 03:28:36 AM
Is there a link/site that shows which SPG hotels have suites?
Looking for 2 room suites that will work for platinum check-in.
(i understand it's based on availability, and not guaranteed)
is the only way to find out about hotel suites by researching each individual hotel website?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on February 06, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
does anyone know, if i shut my spg card, will i lose the points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 06, 2014, 08:42:43 PM

does anyone know, if i shut my spg card, will i lose the points?

Ime no
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on February 06, 2014, 08:49:31 PM
Ime no
well to avoid risk, would i be able to transfer spg points from spg business card to the spg personal card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on February 06, 2014, 09:00:09 PM
well to avoid risk, would i be able to transfer spg points from spg business card to the spg personal card?
You can always transfer spg points to anyone with the same address so I guess you should be able to transfer,
But as chuck said, your points won't be lost with the closure of your card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on February 06, 2014, 09:09:01 PM
You can always transfer spg points to anyone with the same name and address so I guess you should be able to transfer,
But as chuck said, your points won't be lost with the closure of your card.


Just same address is enough
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on February 06, 2014, 09:10:40 PM

Just same address is enough
Edited, tx.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on February 06, 2014, 09:20:49 PM
ok cool, centro, u sure i wont lose points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on February 06, 2014, 09:25:17 PM
also, sorry for bombardment of questions, but how and when do i get my free 5 night Sheraton stay?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 06, 2014, 09:38:50 PM
How long does it take for spg points to come in to my account after first purchase on the Starwood card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on February 07, 2014, 12:22:57 AM

How long does it take for spg points to come in to my account after first purchase on the Starwood card?
Not too long usually it posts by Amex 1-2 after charge clears and then about 1-2 days after it will be in your SPG account.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on February 07, 2014, 12:23:41 AM

also, sorry for bombardment of questions, but how and when do i get my free 5 night Sheraton stay?
What do you mean by free 5 night you mean 5th night free?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on February 07, 2014, 12:24:04 AM

ok cool, centro, u sure i wont lose points?
Yes. Once they post to SPG you won't lose them.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on February 07, 2014, 01:22:52 AM

What do you mean by free 5 night you mean 5th night free?
no, dan on the main site writes something about annualy free stays at Sheridan hotels
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on February 07, 2014, 06:11:26 PM
no, dan on the main site writes something about annualy free stays at Sheridan hotels
When was that written?  Could you give me a specific date?  I need to check that out! ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on February 08, 2014, 12:25:14 AM
Could someone help me understand this statement below (I may be overthinking as well):

I applied and received my Amex SPG in early January, so after reading this, I am interpreting it as getting "2 stays towards your Starwood Preferred Guest elite status and credit for 5 nights toward your Starwood Preferred Guest Elite status" times 2 as the statement says "upon opening...'and,' by February 15th..." Am I correct or is it just one time?
And, can someone elaborate on what exactly "2 stay credit and 5 night Elite status credit" are? What's the difference? Is one a point equivalent while the other is actual stays??? Thanks in advance.

Upgrade Your Status
Upon opening your Card Account and, by February 15th of each subsequent calendar year it is open, you will receive from Starwood credit for 2 stays towards your Starwood Preferred Guest elite status and credit for 5 nights toward your Starwood Preferred Guest Elite status. This benefit is limited to one annual 2 stay credit and one annual 5 night Elite status credit per Starwood Preferred Guest Credit Card account. You will not receive additional 2 stay or 5 night Elite status credits if you have multiple Card Accounts. Credits and status are subject to the terms and conditions of the Starwood Preferred Guest program.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: popot53 on February 08, 2014, 01:05:03 AM
I know that with chase if you change the FF # you can keep getting the bonus on cards. Can you enter a new number on SPG cards, to sign up before the 12 month period?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on February 08, 2014, 08:34:23 PM
no, dan on the main site writes something about annualy free stays at Sheridan hotels

you don't actually get free stays. you get 5 nights that are applied to status stays.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: shauly on February 08, 2014, 11:32:34 PM
How long after a transaction do the points show up? Do I need to pay off the balance first?

Also, in general, say my balance is $1,000, and the closing date is Feb 17th, I should pay $999 and leave the $1 until after the 17th?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on February 09, 2014, 12:00:33 AM
How long after a transaction do the points show up? Do I need to pay off the balance first?

Also, in general, say my balance is $1,000, and the closing date is Feb 17th, I should pay $999 and leave the $1 until after the 17th?

Thanks!
How long after a transaction do the points show up? Do I need to pay off the balance first? Bonus points usually show up 1-2 days after transaction clears. Regular points show up when the statement closes. Both regardless of paying the balance.
Also, in general, say my balance is $1,000, and the closing date is Feb 17th, I should pay $999 and leave the $1 until after the 17th?
That's probably the best way to do it.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: shauly on February 09, 2014, 05:40:09 AM
How long after a transaction do the points show up? Do I need to pay off the balance first? Bonus points usually show up 1-2 days after transaction clears. Regular points show up when the statement closes. Both regardless of paying the balance.
Also, in general, say my balance is $1,000, and the closing date is Feb 17th, I should pay $999 and leave the $1 until after the 17th?
That's probably the best way to do it.

Awesome, thanks so much.

Is there any way to get the referral points if I have the personal card and the referral needs a business card? Would calling help?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on February 09, 2014, 02:09:18 PM
I have an SPG personal I opened back in July, and the SPG business I opened in November. I need to cancel the personal if I want to get the signup bonus again, and need to wait 12 months from the closing date, correct? Is my research correct that this card isn't churnable except in a handful of cases?

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 03:38:24 PM

Is there any way to get the referral points if I have the personal card and the referral needs a business card? Would calling help?
One more post about referral points and I'll show you my real face.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 09, 2014, 04:27:14 PM
Whatever thread I am bumping in today you're on the hunt.. Usually you post before in your thread that you're not in a good mood and everyone know's to stay away.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: shauly on February 10, 2014, 09:18:21 AM
One more post about referral points and I'll show you my real face.

Sheesh. Lesson learned..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on February 10, 2014, 04:00:15 PM
not sure if other people experience this or notice this but today i looked at my spg account and noticed 20k worth of subtractions...i called spg and they said it was done by amex usually if the consumer returned something etc...i have returned a few things in past month maybe equaling $2k not 20k! not sure if this is some time of F/R?? i have used the card for VR about 1-2k a month since august. also i got rid of my personal card to downgrade to BC and only have the business open now...most spending was on personal and here it looks like they were subtracting it form the business one (maybe bec thats the only 1 open not sure) anyone ever see this?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 13, 2014, 01:49:19 AM
They don't clawback points from F/R.

You should call and inquire.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on February 13, 2014, 11:02:35 AM
They don't clawback points from F/R.

You should call and inquire.

I did. Spg says it's amex. Amex says it's Spg. I opened an investigation.

Oddly enough Looks like they took the points out on a day when I got the signup points for my biz card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 19, 2014, 02:21:18 PM
I bought something from amazon on my SPG, it's supposed to arrive today by UPS. Judging by the tracking, it won't arrive until tomorrow. Is this something that I can ask amex for a refund for?

(I recall the was a thread for this but I can't find it. Link?)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 19, 2014, 04:16:09 PM
I bought something from amazon on my SPG, it's supposed to arrive today by UPS. Judging by the tracking, it won't arrive until tomorrow. Is this something that I can ask amex for a refund for?

(I recall the was a thread for this but I can't find it. Link?)
You know those people who write

Bump

after less then 2 hours and get everyone annoyed? ;-)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on February 19, 2014, 04:19:33 PM
You know those people who write

Bump

after less then 2 hours and get everyone annoyed? ;-)
and your saying we should get annoyed?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on February 19, 2014, 04:24:37 PM
I would like to close my starwood card. I have 18k points left on it. Where can I transfer those to? Or are the automatically in my starwood account and no need to move them until I want to use them?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 19, 2014, 04:27:36 PM
I would like to close my starwood card. I have 18k points left on it. Where can I transfer those to? Or are the automatically in my starwood account and no need to move them until I want to use them?
Once they're in an account that's not the banks, there shouldn't be an issue closing the card. Unless it's AA kimeduber le'il in its thread.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 19, 2014, 04:28:50 PM
and your saying we should get annoyed?
Well I had to expect you to get annoyed based on the way I wrote but all I want is the link to the appropriate thread.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on February 19, 2014, 04:32:27 PM
Once they're in an account that's not the banks, there shouldn't be an issue closing the card. Unless it's AA kimeduber le'il in its thread.

Thanks.

I have no points showing in my online americanexpress.com account. the points are all in my SPG account. Im all good?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on February 19, 2014, 05:35:43 PM
I bought something from amazon on my SPG, it's supposed to arrive today by UPS. Judging by the tracking, it won't arrive until tomorrow. Is this something that I can ask amex for a refund for?

(I recall the was a thread for this but I can't find it. Link?)
You might be referring to amex return protection.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 19, 2014, 06:33:22 PM
You might be referring to amex return protection.
Link?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smaxber on February 19, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
I would like to close my starwood card. I have 18k points left on it. Where can I transfer those to? Or are the automatically in my starwood account and no need to move them until I want to use them?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on February 19, 2014, 08:12:20 PM
Link?
My gosh, in the future google "amex return protection site:dansdeals.com"
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7760.0;topicseen
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MLM on February 19, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
Just a quick question? What is the best way to transfer SPG Points from someone else different address to my own account?

Thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on February 19, 2014, 09:13:55 PM
Just a quick question? What is the best way to transfer SPG Points from someone else different address to my own account?

Thanks


Can you change their address?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MLM on February 19, 2014, 10:28:25 PM

Can you change their address?

Yes but maybe better to make a new account with my name at their address then transfer and then change my address to my other address and merge cards
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on February 20, 2014, 12:01:05 AM
Yes but maybe better to make a new account with my name at their address then transfer and then change my address to my other address and merge cards


Why can't you just change the address on you original account and save yourself a step?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 20, 2014, 12:19:05 AM
A address has to be 30 days on file.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MLM on February 20, 2014, 12:47:50 AM

Why can't you just change the address on you original account and save yourself a step?

Cleaner no?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on February 25, 2014, 08:32:09 PM
I had applied for the 25k offer from SPG and now after spending the 5k I didn't get the 15k bonus points. I called them and they told me that I had only applied for the 10k offer and not the 25k, what do I do? I spoke to supervisor and they're not budging. Anything to do?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on February 25, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
I had applied for the 25k offer from SPG and now after spending the 5k I didn't get the 15k bonus points. I called them and they told me that I had only applied for the 10k offer and not the 25k, what do I do? I spoke to supervisor and they're not budging. Anything to do?
did u use the link on this site?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on February 25, 2014, 09:34:33 PM
did u use the link on this site?
yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on February 25, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
yes.
Maybe Dan can chime in for help
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on February 25, 2014, 09:38:07 PM
Maybe PM/email Dan
When I click on the link it shows the 25k offer, so can't figure what happened. What can I do to get those points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on February 25, 2014, 09:45:58 PM
When I click on the link it shows the 25k offer, so can't figure what happened. What can I do to get those points?
I cannot help you, but don't give up. Try to call AMEX again (and again) tell them the link says 25k. Take a snap shot of it and email it in to them from your account.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on February 25, 2014, 09:47:08 PM
I cannot help you, but don't give up. Try to call AMEX again (and again) tell them the link says 25k. Take a snap shot of it and email it in to them from your account.
thanks.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on February 25, 2014, 10:16:07 PM
Unbelievable what HUCA can do! Yesterday's rep and sup were sooo nasty and not accommodating. Tonight I spoke to a nice rep and she said that points will post within 30 days and if not call back and they'll post them immediately.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on February 25, 2014, 11:22:28 PM
can I buy gift cards on SPG or will it trigger F /R
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on February 26, 2014, 12:03:15 AM
can I buy gift cards on SPG or will it trigger F /R
just a few thousand or less, i don't see why it should trigger
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 12:22:17 AM
can I buy gift cards on SPG or will it trigger F /R
Shouldn't be different then any other Amex.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on February 26, 2014, 12:48:17 AM
Is there any way to get a deal better than 25K right now?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 12:55:20 AM
Is there any way to get a deal better than 25K right now?
No.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: arigi on February 26, 2014, 01:11:51 AM
This might be a total n00b question, but how on earth do people manage to amass the sheer number of points it takes for, e.g. a first class flight to TLV? (let alone more than one if you are traveling) - I get the signup bonus gets you a good chunk of 25K but short of paying day school tuition on the card (I don't have any kids yet so not relevant) how do you get into the 100k range? Or is this actually something that people typically save up points from spending for years and years etc.?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 01:15:40 AM
This might be a total n00b question, but how on earth do people manage to amass the sheer number of points it takes for, e.g. a first class flight to TLV? (let alone more than one if you are traveling) - I get the signup bonus gets you a good chunk of 25K but short of paying day school tuition on the card (I don't have any kids yet so not relevant) how do you get into the 100k range? Or is this actually something that people typically save up points from spending for years and years etc.?
Applying for Personal and Business, a year later rinse and repeat, = 120,000 miles.

Also CVS sells VR.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Malachi on February 26, 2014, 01:17:14 AM
Applying for Personal and Business, a year later rinse and repeat, = 120,000 miles.

Also CVS sells VR.
got to admit , your English has improved drastically.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 01:26:08 AM
got to admit , your English has improved drastically.
Thanks  ;)

practice makes perfect  :D

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 01:28:10 AM
got to admit , your English has improved drastically.
btw, where did we meet before?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: arigi on February 26, 2014, 12:35:32 PM
Applying for Personal and Business, a year later rinse and repeat, = 120,000 miles.

Also CVS sells VR.

So it sounds like you need to close & reopen the amex account then? Doesn't that hurt your credit score with the repeated opening and closing of credit accounts? I see a lot of people saying that the SPG is a generally good spending card, so how does one manage to keep it around as that with all the churn?

Also I don't quite know what VR is but with some basic searching it sounds like it's Vanilla Reload, presumably some sort of prepaid card? Does that mean essentially you buy this prepaid card with the Amex (presumably with some large denomination to maximize SPG points)?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on February 26, 2014, 12:55:22 PM
This might be a total n00b question, but how on earth do people manage to amass the sheer number of points it takes for, e.g. a first class flight to TLV? (let alone more than one if you are traveling) - I get the signup bonus gets you a good chunk of 25K but short of paying day school tuition on the card (I don't have any kids yet so not relevant) how do you get into the 100k range? Or is this actually something that people typically save up points from spending for years and years etc.?
you get 30k SPG points for this card (25k bonus + 5k for spending = 30k)

So, if you open a business and a personal credit card, you got 60k.

Now, if your significant other does the same, your total SPG points will be 120k!

I suggest you read about everything here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23990.0).
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ADanFan on February 26, 2014, 02:57:01 PM

I suggest you read about everything here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23990.0).
that's a WIKI !  (huge, Thanks)
Title: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: mdrills on February 26, 2014, 11:00:04 PM
Ive seen that some people have been targeted for this offer (not myself)
Does anyone know if this is the going offer that can be gotten by anyone or only if you received an email.
Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 26, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
Ive seen that some people have been targeted for this offer (not myself)
Does anyone know if this is the going offer that can be gotten by anyone or only if you received an email.
saw a link in ft.
Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: SearchGuy on February 26, 2014, 11:01:53 PM
Ive seen that some people have been targeted for this offer (not myself)
Does anyone know if this is the going offer that can be gotten by anyone or only if you received an email.
your answers your question yourself....
Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: mdrills on February 26, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
Thats where I saw it also but the link asks for my ID and Zip which was exclusively for the receiver
Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: SearchGuy on February 26, 2014, 11:02:29 PM
saw a link in ft.
where is it?
Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: mdrills on February 26, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credit-card-programs/1555651-spg-card-30k-offer-back-valid-through-3-24-14-a.html

Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: Freddie on February 26, 2014, 11:04:49 PM
If it's true, does ANYBODY on this forum qualify?
Didn't we all hit up the big bonus back in July?

On a separate but somewhat related note, Amex keeps targeting me with an offer for 5k starpoints for every referral I bring in. I wish I knew someone who needed this card! If you want to apply for an SPG and get me 5k points for referring you, let me know. I will make you a deal.
Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 26, 2014, 11:06:10 PM
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credit-card-programs/1555651-spg-card-30k-offer-back-valid-through-3-24-14-a.html
never mind it's only targeted.
Title: Re: SPG 30K signup bonus
Post by: kracked dude on February 26, 2014, 11:08:40 PM
I got the offer emailed to me
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SearchGuy on February 26, 2014, 11:12:43 PM
You can try calling with this RSVP code W2988845127419
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 26, 2014, 11:22:28 PM
You can try calling with this RSVP code W2988845127419
zip?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SearchGuy on February 26, 2014, 11:34:10 PM
zip?
you called and anyone asked you for a zip code?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 27, 2014, 12:05:20 AM
you called and anyone asked you for a zip code?
no, I want to try it online.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 27, 2014, 12:10:19 AM
So it sounds like you need to close & reopen the amex account then? Doesn't that hurt your credit score with the repeated opening and closing of credit accounts? I see a lot of people saying that the SPG is a generally good spending card, so how does one manage to keep it around as that with all the churn?

Also I don't quite know what VR is but with some basic searching it sounds like it's Vanilla Reload, presumably some sort of prepaid card? Does that mean essentially you buy this prepaid card with the Amex (presumably with some large denomination to maximize SPG points)?

Thanks in advance!
It doesn't hurt your credit if you transfer the CL to a different Amex card before you close it. Closing  aCC without loosing the CL DOES NOT HURT YOUR CREDIT.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on February 27, 2014, 12:35:14 AM
I just created an account with SPG and the offer is there
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on February 27, 2014, 12:56:06 AM
I just created an account with SPG and the offer is there
A 30K Offer?!!??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Malachi on February 27, 2014, 12:57:31 AM
btw, where did we meet before?
we never met, your English was pretty bad when you started posting and I see a dramatic improvement.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on February 27, 2014, 12:58:55 AM
we never met, your English was pretty bad when you started posting and I see a dramatic improvement.
+1
And now we can add that to the list of awesome skills learned on DDF   :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on February 27, 2014, 01:09:24 AM
A 30K Offer?!!??
Yes
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on February 27, 2014, 01:12:52 AM
Yes
+100
Awesome - What are the terms?
(also, btw.. if it's been less than 12 mos. since your last cancellation, they'll let your do all your spending,
but they will not credit the bonus points... So make sure you're all clear prior to time and effort.)
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on February 27, 2014, 01:13:56 AM
+100
Awesome - What are the terms?
(also, btw.. if it's been less than 12 mos. since your last cancellation, they'll let your do all your spending,
but they will not credit the bonus points... So make sure you're all clear prior to time and effort.)
Enjoy!
Not sure what you mean
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on February 27, 2014, 01:18:23 AM
Not sure what you mean
is this your first SPG card? if so, then you're fine.

If not, then the T & C state that this 30K offer is only applicable to new accounts (IIRC, => 12+ mos since last ownership...)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on February 27, 2014, 01:29:46 AM
Yes
really, 30K - Time to apply..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 27, 2014, 07:28:14 AM
Are we sure that amex doesn't match anymore?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on February 27, 2014, 10:08:44 AM
is this your first SPG card? if so, then you're fine.

If not, then the T & C state that this 30K offer is only applicable to new accounts (IIRC, => 12+ mos since last ownership...)
Thanks yes this would be my first card
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mb on February 28, 2014, 10:02:48 AM
Do SPG points post after putting charges on your AMEX or ONLY after you've paid the charges?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on February 28, 2014, 10:03:37 AM
Do SPG points post after putting charges on your AMEX or ONLY after you've paid the charges?
after statement closes
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on February 28, 2014, 12:27:32 PM
Do SPG points post after putting charges on your AMEX or ONLY after you've paid the charges?
Depends which points.
Spending points posts a day or tow after statement close, bonus points post a day or two after you did what you are supposed to do to get these bonus points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on March 02, 2014, 07:04:27 PM
New spg category changes as posted on DD Main Site: https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/starwood/2014categorychange/2014CategoryChanges.pdf

(Fascinating that not a single hotel in the entire state of OHIO went up or down in any category.)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 02, 2014, 07:08:15 PM
not a single hotel in the entire state of OHIO went up or down in any category.)
-1
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on March 02, 2014, 07:13:25 PM
-1
Considering that there were many more USA hotels on the list that went up this year than went down, that's a good thing that OH had no change...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on March 02, 2014, 07:14:24 PM
New spg category changes as posted on DD Main Site: https://lacek.hs.llnwd.net/e1/starwood/2014categorychange/2014CategoryChanges.pdf

(Fascinating that not a single hotel in the entire state of OHIO went up or down in any category.)
Sheraton Suites Akron/Cuyahoga Falls NORTH AMERICA United States Ohio Cuyahoga Falls Sheraton 3 4
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on March 02, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
Sheraton Suites Akron/Cuyahoga Falls NORTH AMERICA United States Ohio Cuyahoga Falls Sheraton 3 4
+1
Thanks - I missed that one.
Our awesome, trusty Category One SPG hotel near the Airport (which was great to help us reach our 25 stay goal)
was recently sold to Wyndham - the week after we stayed there. It's no longer a part of Starwood. 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DoGo on March 03, 2014, 12:16:20 AM
It doesn't hurt your credit if you transfer the CL to a different Amex card before you close it. Closing  aCC without loosing the CL DOES NOT HURT YOUR CREDIT.
how are you sooo sure? Have you been in the game more then 10 years?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on March 03, 2014, 01:09:51 PM
Can SPG points be transferred to SW in order to be eligible for the companion pass? If so how and what's the ratio? TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on March 03, 2014, 01:15:13 PM
Can SPG points be transferred to SW in order to be eligible for the companion pass? If so how and what's the ratio? TIA

They will not count towards companion pass
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on March 03, 2014, 01:16:02 PM
Can SPG points be transferred to SW in order to be eligible for the companion pass? If so how and what's the ratio? TIA
no
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on March 03, 2014, 04:22:25 PM
not even SPG to UR to Hyatt to SW?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on March 05, 2014, 05:25:02 PM
I had a 30K offer in my SPG account last week and now its gone is there any way to get it from them. I called and they said that the current deal is 25K
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on March 05, 2014, 08:27:57 PM
you can get gold status i believe. But you can also just call and ask and often spg will give you gold status
anyone have any luck with getting good status just by calling? And what r the benefits of gold?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on March 05, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
anyone have any luck with getting good status just by calling? And what r the benefits of gold?
I got Gold via the actual 10-stay/25 night requirements, however, I highly recommend achieving SPG Gold/Plat.
Gold gives you:  4:00 pm check-out (often that's almost like having another day)
           YMMV -- you may get one or two of your choice of: Enhanced suites based upon availability, Bonus points/amenities, 250/500 pts, free welcome drinks, free wifi

You can read all about SPG Gold here: https://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/member_benefits/gold_preferred.html
Platinum benefits here: https://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/member_benefits/platinum_preferred.html
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on March 05, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
I got Gold via the actual 10-stay/25 night requirements, however, I highly recommend achieving SPG Gold/Plat.
Gold gives you:  4:00 pm check-out (often that's almost like having another day)
           YMMV -- you may get one or two of your choice of: Enhanced suites based upon availability, Bonus points/amenities, 250/500 pts, free welcome drinks, free wifi

You can read all about SPG Gold here: https://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/member_benefits/gold_preferred.html
Platinum benefits here: https://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/member_benefits/platinum_preferred.html
what is this 10-stay 25-night to get upgraded you speak of?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on March 06, 2014, 01:25:40 AM

what is this 10-stay 25-night to get upgraded you speak of?
To get Gold status without calling or having Amex Platinum.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 17, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
I had a 30K offer in my SPG account last week and now its gone is there any way to get it from them. I called and they said that the current deal is 25K
I also had the offer showing earlier today when I signed up for a SPG account, but it's not showing anymore. What did you do in the end?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on March 17, 2014, 11:15:41 PM
I also had the offer showing earlier today when I signed up for a SPG account, but it's not showing anymore. What did you do in the end?
Did you see it in the morning when you signed up and then it was gone later? Maybe I should make another account
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on March 18, 2014, 02:01:18 AM
Did you see it in the morning when you signed up and then it was gone later? Maybe I should make another account
Yeah, I saw it right when I signed up and then not after (same day even). I was thinking about waiting till I'm going to apply and making a new account- if you did that first let us know how it goes :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on March 18, 2014, 08:15:02 AM
Yeah, I saw it right when I signed up and then not after (same day even). I was thinking about waiting till I'm going to apply and making a new account- if you did that first let us know how it goes :)
Well see. AMEX and SPG have been telling me the deal doesnt exist anymore but who knows maybe
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: noturbizniss on March 19, 2014, 09:52:38 AM
Any ideas how to identify the date I closed an Amex card? I can't find the email. I probably held onto the card a bit after my minimum spend, but want to check the exact date...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on March 19, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
Any ideas how to identify the date I closed an Amex card? I can't find the email. I probably held onto the card a bit after my minimum spend, but want to check the exact date...
why not just call up AmEx. They have you on file anyway and their service is great. IMHO
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on March 28, 2014, 12:14:51 AM
I finally tried making myself a new account to see if there would be the 30k offer there and it was there. I was approved and now lets see what happens
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: tuvz on March 29, 2014, 07:20:23 AM
Any ideas how to identify the date I closed an Amex card? I can't find the email. I probably held onto the card a bit after my minimum spend, but want to check the exact date...

just chat to them and ask
I did it last week
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on April 06, 2014, 11:29:33 AM
Can I buy 5k of one vanilla withy SPG. Them go to walmart and buy MO. Will that cause an F/R?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: danfan5773 on April 06, 2014, 03:29:16 PM
I remember seeing that you can earn elite status with SPG just by spending on the card ?.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 06, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
I remember seeing that you can earn elite status with SPG just by spending on the card ?.
one can sometimes get that by calling and requesting gold, but perhaps not every year. And, will not work towards platinum -- Need to build that up with actual stays.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 06, 2014, 05:33:30 PM

I remember seeing that you can earn elite status with SPG just by spending on the card ?.
If you spend 30K you can earn Gold status, or you can just call and ask nicely! :D
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: danfan5773 on April 06, 2014, 05:36:35 PM
If you spend 30K you can earn Gold status, or you can just call and ask nicely! :D
I got gold for spending 30k, 2nd year now and just got email that my gold will be renewed because of meeting the 30k this year. My question was if i can earn LIFETIME ELITE this way?. TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on April 08, 2014, 08:00:46 AM
Instant approval of spg and Premier rewards gold card on 2BM. First amex cards...Trying to figure out how to max out sign up bonuses before they disappear. I have great credit. What else would you experts recommend applying for before its too late? I saw something about applying for an SPG personal and biz to get double the Signup bonus but I can't find the Linky. TIA!!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on April 08, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Instant approval of spg and Premier rewards gold card on 2BM. First amex cards...Trying to figure out how to max out sign up bonuses before they disappear. I have great credit. What else would you experts recommend applying for before its too late? I saw something about applying for an SPG personal and biz to get double the Signup bonus but I can't find the Linky. TIA!!
Do you know something that I don't?... Signup bonuses are not disappearing, not by a long shot. You probably mean the new Amex rule effective 05/01, that one can only receive a signup bonus once-in-a-lifetime per card type. But since these are your first Amex cards, you have nothing to worry about and you will still be able to get signup bonuses after the rule goes into effect.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on April 08, 2014, 09:26:53 AM
Do you know something that I don't?... Signup bonuses are not disappearing, not by a long shot. You probably mean the new Amex rule effective 05/01, that one can only receive a signup bonus once-in-a-lifetime per card type. But since these are your first Amex cards, you have nothing to worry about and you will still be able to get signup bonuses after the rule goes into effect.

Well now I've opened them so I believe I'll no longer be able to get sign up bonuses for these 2 particular cards.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 08, 2014, 09:34:04 AM

Well now I've opened them so I believe I'll no longer be able to get sign up bonuses for these 2 particular cards.
Correct but the business card is a separate product so no need to rush into that.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 08, 2014, 09:35:01 AM
Well now I've opened them so I believe I'll no longer be able to get sign up bonuses for these 2 particular cards.
I believe that at least you will get them now.
It may be a choice of either now or later, so generally now looks good....
Plus, who knows what glitches may come up in May for certain apps?

We can take it one month/one statement and one bonus (or 3) at a time...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on April 08, 2014, 09:40:40 PM
Is it true that if I add my wife to my account shes also eligible for the bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 08, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Is it true that if I add my wife to my account shes also eligible for the bonus?
i don't think that's the case. An expert would know for sure, however, you may get a 5K point referral bonus if you send her a new spg app link.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 08, 2014, 10:19:12 PM
Question: I asked my brother to send me an SPG referral link to try to add 5K to the spg bonus opportunity.

I'm filling out the app now -- Do I write that I have an SPG number?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on April 08, 2014, 10:53:18 PM
Question: I asked my brother to send me an SPG referral link to try to add 5K to the spg bonus opportunity.

I'm filling out the app now -- Do I write that I have an SPG number?
It shouldn't affect the application bonus either way.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 08, 2014, 11:38:20 PM
It shouldn't affect the application bonus either way.
Ok - thanks. Approved for SPG and pending on Delta.
The Delta lady said that the SPG card can arrive April 19, and that they cannot expedite the mailing of the SPG card because that needs to be done prior to approval!??
Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on April 10, 2014, 04:06:14 PM
Dan posted that one of the reasons that he loves the SPG card is "Additional cardholders are free on the Starwood card, and each one qualifies for their own promotion credits." can someone please explain what this means to me? Does this mean that if I add another card to my account and spend the 5k in 6 months that the second card would get the bonus as well?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on April 10, 2014, 04:07:33 PM

Dan posted that one of the reasons that he loves the SPG card is "Additional cardholders are free on the Starwood card, and each one qualifies for their own promotion credits." can someone please explain what this means to me? Does this mean that if I add another card to my account and spend the 5k in 6 months that the second card would get the bonus as well?

No.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 10, 2014, 04:08:32 PM

Dan posted that one of the reasons that he loves the SPG card is "Additional cardholders are free on the Starwood card, and each one qualifies for their own promotion credits." can someone please explain what this means to me? Does this mean that if I add another card to my account and spend the 5k in 6 months that the second card would get the bonus as well?
No, he's referring to the twitter promotion etc.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 10, 2014, 04:09:53 PM
No, he's referring to the twitter promotion etc.
and AUs work for free towards Small Business Saturday.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on April 10, 2014, 04:10:37 PM
No, he's referring to the twitter promotion etc.
Thank you
also i chatted with AMEX to get the BP offer onto my card and they said they cannot add the offer to my card. Should I just try chatting with someone else?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on April 10, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
Dan posted that one of the reasons that he loves the SPG card is "Additional cardholders are free on the Starwood card, and each one qualifies for their own promotion credits." can someone please explain what this means to me? Does this mean that if I add another card to my account and spend the 5k in 6 months that the second card would get the bonus as well?
Would'n't that be nice?! He means that the promos such as spend $30 at BP and get $5 back. Additionally, you can use AUs for small business Saturday.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on April 10, 2014, 04:12:27 PM
I apologize I see this was tackled already!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on April 13, 2014, 07:09:43 AM
If Passover program is at a starwoods hotel, what benefits can I still get as an SPG gold member? (If any)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on April 14, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
Applied last nite for the starwood card. Today i noticed a decrease in credit line from another amex card that I have. I called amex and after speaking to three diff agents they told me that bec i dont use my entire credit line they automatically took some credit.

Has anyone had an experience where they take credit from one card to another without me asking to?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CountValentine on April 17, 2014, 12:43:40 AM
Has anyone had an experience where they take credit from one card to another without me asking to?
SOP
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shneurt on April 23, 2014, 11:05:42 PM
Is there a bonus for adding an AU?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 24, 2014, 12:40:30 AM
Is there a bonus for adding an AU?
If you have a referral link, then you can get 5K SPG bonus points when that person is approved.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shneurt on April 24, 2014, 03:17:55 AM
Thnx
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on April 24, 2014, 07:00:40 AM
Is there a bonus for adding an AU?


If you have a referral link, then you can get 5K SPG bonus points when that person is approved.

To clarify, that person will not be an au but would have their own card account. No bonus for adding au
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoss6400 on April 24, 2014, 11:45:33 AM
applied about 2.5 months ago thru dans link spend the 5k and didn't get the 15k bonus i chatted with amex and they told me that they don't see the offer and they will open a investigation
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on April 24, 2014, 01:11:09 PM
Is it worth it to spend $200 to get gold status?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on April 24, 2014, 01:12:20 PM

Is it worth it to spend $200 to get gold status?
if u stay at hotels often and can use what they offer then of course it is.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on April 24, 2014, 01:18:47 PM
it seems that I can combine 2 offers into one. I can stay 2 nights in order to have it be considered 10 and also apply for the gold/platinum challenge and once I get the 10 nights I would have gold status.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shneurt on April 24, 2014, 01:58:55 PM


To clarify, that person will not be an au but would have their own card account. No bonus for adding au
Thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on April 24, 2014, 06:09:33 PM
it seems that I can combine 2 offers into one. I can stay 2 nights in order to have it be considered 10 and also apply for the gold/platinum challenge and once I get the 10 nights I would have gold status.

is that a statement or a question?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on April 24, 2014, 11:41:54 PM
is that a statement or a question?
Statement
Title: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 25, 2014, 01:12:45 AM
Is it worth it to spend $200 to get gold status?
There's easier ways then spending $200 to get SPG Gold status, namely calling up and asking nicely.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on April 25, 2014, 04:43:56 AM
There's easier ways then spending $200 to get SPG Gold status, namely calling up and asking nicely.
how would i do this? just call/chat and ask for the status?
Title: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 25, 2014, 03:05:21 PM
how would i do this? just call/chat and ask for the status?
Call SPG and ask nicely if it doesn't work, HUCA!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on April 29, 2014, 11:35:51 AM
What is the best way to avoid A/F on this card? I just opened it -- in 1 year when the fee posts is it best to cancel and re-open (churning is over  :-[ )? Ask them nicely to waive (do they even do that)?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 29, 2014, 11:41:57 AM
What is the best way to avoid A/F on this card? I just opened it -- in 1 year when the fee posts is it best to cancel and re-open (churning is over  :-[ )? Ask them nicely to waive (do they even do that)?
They may offer a statement credit or a couple of K retention points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on April 29, 2014, 11:44:53 AM
They may offer a statement credit or a couple of K retention points.

K retention points.... what are those!?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on April 29, 2014, 11:46:12 AM
K retention points.... what are those!?
K = 1,000
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 29, 2014, 11:47:15 AM
K retention points.... what are those!?
Points to keep you as a customer? :D
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on April 29, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
I was doing a 3BM containing an SPG a couple weeks ago. The app kept erroring out, so I submitted it multiple times. Well, apparently it wasn't really erroring, because I received 3 new SPG cards (in addition to the 2 I already have open).

My question is, all 3 were submitted with the same SPG#. Is there a point in doing the spend on them?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 29, 2014, 02:19:34 PM
I was doing a 3BM containing an SPG a couple weeks ago. The app kept erroring out, so I submitted it multiple times. Well, apparently it wasn't really erroring, because I received 3 new SPG cards (in addition to the 2 I already have open).

My question is, all 3 were submitted with the same SPG#. Is there a point in doing the spend on them?
Do $1 on each and see which ones you get the initial 10K on and take it from there.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 29, 2014, 02:21:14 PM
Why is the SPG bonus considered good? It gets you basically 4X at all categories up to 5K that's nothing. Ink does better at OSS.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 29, 2014, 02:32:49 PM
Why is the SPG bonus considered good? It gets you basically 4X at all categories up to 5K that's nothing. Ink does better at OSS.
the SPG bonus is 25K - 30K bonus points for new approved ccs. 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 29, 2014, 02:34:05 PM
the SPG bonus is 25K - 30K bonus points for new approved ccs.
Correct. I was just breaking it down, you get 10K after $1 and then a bonus 15K after 5K spend so that's essentially 4X back on anything up to 5K.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: TC610 on April 29, 2014, 02:39:34 PM
Correct. I was just breaking it down, you get 10K after $1 and then a bonus 15K after 5K spend so that's essentially 4X back on anything up to 5K.

I think you may be underestimating the value of 25k SPG bonus points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: brotha123 on April 29, 2014, 02:42:40 PM
I think you may be underestimating the value of 25k SPG bonus points.
remember,for every 20K you transfer you get an extra 5. Transferring 60K would get you 75K... But yes IMO overrated.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 29, 2014, 02:47:50 PM
I think you may be underestimating the value of 25k SPG bonus points.
Not at all. I actually use it for my day-to-day spending. It was just a random thought.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: joelr773 on April 29, 2014, 02:49:06 PM
What is the best way to get the annual fee waived on SPG
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 29, 2014, 02:51:45 PM
What is the best way to get the annual fee waived on SPG

See this thread for a better place to post - Credit Card Retention Bonuses (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1572)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dudeguy on April 30, 2014, 01:14:57 AM
I know this must have been chewed over many times over here, but I can't seem to get a clear picture.

1) I applied for a new spg card after only recently canceling my last one. I left the spg number box blank on the app. I got the card with a new spg number. I thought things were looking good and I would receive another 25k bonus. When I logged onto my old spg account something was wrong and over the phone they notified me that they merged my old account with the new one created. Does this mean I won't be getting another signup bonus? Is there a way to tell before I go spend $5k on the card?

2) Dan was talking about the May 1st deadline to get another signup bonus on the same amex card one last time. Does this mean for cards approved after May 1st, And therefore I can still do it again? (as I was approved prior)

TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: TC610 on April 30, 2014, 09:37:37 AM
I know this must have been chewed over many times over here, but I can't seem to get a clear picture.

1) I applied for a new spg card after only recently canceling my last one. I left the spg number box blank on the app. I got the card with a new spg number. I thought things were looking good and I would receive another 25k bonus. When I logged onto my old spg account something was wrong and over the phone they notified me that they merged my old account with the new one created. Does this mean I won't be getting another signup bonus? Is there a way to tell before I go spend $5k on the card?

2) Dan was talking about the May 1st deadline to get another signup bonus on the same amex card one last time. Does this mean for cards approved after May 1st, And therefore I can still do it again? (as I was approved prior)

TIA

1) Auto-merging of accounts frequently happen like that when you just leave the SPG number blank and the rest of the details of the two SPG accounts are similar (name, address, etc).  If you canceled the SPG card recently (i.e. within the last 12 months) and reapplied, there's a very good chance that you will not receive the bonus.  Your first clue will be whether or not you get the 10k for your first purchase.

2) Nobody knows for sure (the whole crystal ball thing), but the popular opinion is that if you've ever had that consumer card in the past, you will not be able to get a bonus after a May 1 approval.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 30, 2014, 09:55:24 AM

1) Auto-merging of accounts frequently happen like that when you just leave the SPG number blank and the rest of the details of the two SPG accounts are similar (name, address, etc).  If you canceled the SPG card recently (i.e. within the last 12 months) and reapplied, there's a very good chance that you will not receive the bonus.  Your first clue will be whether or not you get the 10k for your first purchase.

2) Nobody knows for sure (the whole crystal ball thing), but the popular opinion is that if you've ever had that consumer card in the past, you will not be able to get a bonus after a May 1 approval.
Agree on both points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on April 30, 2014, 10:55:39 AM
...
2) Nobody knows for sure (the whole crystal ball thing), but the popular opinion is that if you've ever had that consumer card in the past, you will not be able to get a bonus after a May 1 approval.
However, do you think that business SPGs will remain with a 12 month "refresh" and new bonuses?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: TC610 on April 30, 2014, 11:12:31 AM
However, do you think that business SPGs will remain with a 12 month "refresh" and new bonuses?

It is my humble opinion - take that for what it's worth - is that the way Amex business bonuses behave today will be the same they behave on May 1.  Beyond that, who knows??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dudeguy on April 30, 2014, 01:35:57 PM
1) Auto-merging of accounts frequently happen like that when you just leave the SPG number blank and the rest of the details of the two SPG accounts are similar (name, address, etc).  If you canceled the SPG card recently (i.e. within the last 12 months) and reapplied, there's a very good chance that you will not receive the bonus.  Your first clue will be whether or not you get the 10k for your first purchase.

2) Nobody knows for sure (the whole crystal ball thing), but the popular opinion is that if you've ever had that consumer card in the past, you will not be able to get a bonus after a May 1 approval.

Thanks for your thorough reply. In regards to point 1 is there a popular opinion in regards to the best way to do it to up your chances? First create a new spg account...?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on April 30, 2014, 02:32:29 PM

Thanks for your thorough reply. In regards to point 1 is there a popular opinion in regards to the best way to do it to up your chances? First create a new spg account...?
It can't hurt to open a new SPG but I don't think that's the real factor.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: TC610 on April 30, 2014, 04:40:33 PM
Thanks for your thorough reply. In regards to point 1 is there a popular opinion in regards to the best way to do it to up your chances? First create a new spg account...?

Perhaps the people who know the secret will tell the rest of us on May 1 when the new rules go in to effect.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dudeguy on April 30, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
Perhaps the people who know the secret will tell the rest of us on May 1 when the new rules go in to effect.

+1
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on May 03, 2014, 10:35:32 PM
Is it possible to transfer points from my wifes account to mine?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on May 03, 2014, 10:36:07 PM

Is it possible to transfer points from my wifes account to mine?
Yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on May 03, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
how
Title: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on May 03, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
how
Use this link. (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/transfer/pointstransferForm.html) Sign in to her account and fill out the form.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 03, 2014, 10:49:06 PM
Use this link. (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/transfer/pointstransferForm.html) Sign in to her account and fill out the form.
#spoonfeed
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on May 03, 2014, 10:49:30 PM
Use this link. (http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/transfer/pointstransferForm.html) Sign in to her account and fill out the form.
Thanks. Would you know if there is any way to transfer non-spg amex points to a spg account?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on May 03, 2014, 10:51:38 PM
#spoonfeed
I'm in a good mood tonight.
#notsurewhy
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Zevwolf on May 03, 2014, 10:52:22 PM
Yes but 3 to 1.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on May 03, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
Yes but 3 to 1.
Still might be worth it where can I do it
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Zevwolf on May 03, 2014, 10:55:17 PM
In your MR account.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on May 03, 2014, 10:56:12 PM
In your MR account.
Thank you
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on May 04, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
Can i transfer SPG points to SW towards a CP at a 1:1.25 radio in 20k increments?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on May 04, 2014, 05:54:25 PM
Can i transfer SPG points to SW towards a CP at a 1:1.25 radio in 20k increments?
No
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dudeguy on May 06, 2014, 11:24:19 PM
I'm trying to figure out if I will be receiving the signup bonus on a new SPG card soon after canceling another one. (I signed up during the window Dan thought we can signup and receive regardless if we got in the past 12 months...)

Someone mentioned looking to see if the initial 10k post. When should they post? Immediately after the first purchase after the statement closes?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 07, 2014, 08:40:24 AM
I'm trying to figure out if I will be receiving the signup bonus on a new SPG card soon after canceling another one. (I signed up during the window Dan thought we can signup and receive regardless if we got in the past 12 months...)

Someone mentioned looking to see if the initial 10k post. When should they post? Immediately after the first purchase after the statement closes?

Thanks!
in between. not immediately but very soon after
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 08, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
If starwood expedites points to SPG account. Will it cone up as earned or goodwill from amex. I opened up a second spg card (in april) with one already open.  I called them up to expedite the first ten thousand spend. They told me they would expedite it. (No mention of bonus ineligibility) it posted a couple of days later. It's coming up as a goodwill from amex as opposed to earned points. Which was the description when my other bonus miles posted. Is that because the miles were expedited or because they just decided to give me miles as goodwill?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 09, 2014, 10:38:34 AM
If starwood expedites points to SPG account. Will it cone up as earned or goodwill from amex. I opened up a second spg card (in april) with one already open.  I called them up to expedite the first ten thousand spend. They told me they would expedite it. (No mention of bonus ineligibility) it posted a couple of days later. It's coming up as a goodwill from amex as opposed to earned points. Which was the description when my other bonus miles posted. Is that because the miles were expedited or because they just decided to give me miles as goodwill?
Bump
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoss6400 on May 09, 2014, 11:40:50 AM
signed up in march and they won't give me the 15k bonus chatted a few times and they keep saying that the offer is no more available
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 09, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
signed up in march and they won't give me the 15k bonus chatted a few times and they keep saying that the offer is no more available
Do you have screenshot of them confirming bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 09, 2014, 01:58:32 PM
If amex expedites points to SPG account. Will it cone up as earned or goodwill from amex. I opened up a second spg card (in april) with one already open.  I called them up to expedite the first ten thousand spend. They told me they would expedite it. (No mention of bonus ineligibility) it posted a couple of days later. It's coming up as a goodwill from amex as opposed to earned points. Which was the description when my other bonus miles posted. Is that because the miles were expedited or because they just decided to give me miles as goodwill?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 09, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
If starwood expedites points to SPG account. Will it cone up as earned or goodwill from amex. I opened up a second spg card (in april) with one already open.  I called them up to expedite the first ten thousand spend. They told me they would expedite it. (No mention of bonus ineligibility) it posted a couple of days later. It's coming up as a goodwill from amex as opposed to earned points. Which was the description when my other bonus miles posted. Is that because the miles were expedited or because they just decided to give me miles as goodwill?
No one knows?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 09, 2014, 02:21:31 PM
No one knows?
why expedite spg points? they come in so quickly as it is
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 09, 2014, 03:09:45 PM
why expedite spg points? they come in so quickly as it is
Since I wasn't sure if I was going to get them at all.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: TC610 on May 09, 2014, 05:06:41 PM
No one knows?

They probably do, but you keep bumping your posts so quickly and so often that they don't want to give you an answer.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 09, 2014, 05:08:40 PM
They probably do, but you keep bumping your posts so quickly and so often that they don't want to give you an answer.
Valid point.
Apologies for bumping....
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 09, 2014, 05:14:07 PM

One more thing. I left spg number blank when applying. But they put all the cards under the same spg number. Is that normal?

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on May 09, 2014, 05:58:43 PM

One more thing. I left spg number blank when applying. But they put all the cards under the same spg number. Is that normal?
Yes, it happens.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoss6400 on May 11, 2014, 12:20:08 AM
Do you have screenshot of them confirming bonus?

nops >:(
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dudeguy on May 12, 2014, 12:12:52 AM
It seems that after signing up for the SPG soon after canceling an old one, I haven't even received the first 10k starpoints after first swipe. Is there any number I should try to chat up a representative or SM I should try sending to try my luck?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 12, 2014, 12:40:06 AM

It seems that after signing up for the SPG soon after canceling an old one, I haven't even received the first 10k starpoints after first swipe. Is there any number I should try to chat up a representative or SM I should try sending to try my luck?

Why not try Chat
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on May 12, 2014, 10:19:06 PM
http://www.thefrequentflyer.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=687

Some new promotion from SPG for gaining points and status
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: udip3146 on May 12, 2014, 10:42:54 PM
Does anyone happen to know when the spg 15k points post? Is it right after spend or after statement closes?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: udip3146 on May 13, 2014, 08:41:36 AM
Does anyone happen to know when the spg 15k points post? Is it right after spend or after statement closes?
???
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 13, 2014, 08:42:13 AM
???
very soon after spending is complete
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: udip3146 on May 13, 2014, 04:57:59 PM
very soon after spending is complete
Thanks.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: churnbabychurn on May 13, 2014, 11:03:46 PM
It seems to be common for Amex to claim that you only signed up for a 10k bonus, heard it from a couple of people too...
Chutzpa that they get away with it, is there even an offer for just a 10k bonus??
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on May 14, 2014, 12:37:09 AM
After chatting with them today, it seems I won't get the bonus for this card because I closed my old one in December
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 14, 2014, 12:55:55 AM
After chatting with them today, it seems I won't get the bonus for this card because I closed my old one in December
Did you have screenshot of them guaranteeing bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on May 14, 2014, 10:34:13 AM
Did you have screenshot of them guaranteeing bonus?
No
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 14, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
I received 5000 points X3 for refferals. one of them came up as "SPG AX MBR REFERRAL - CONSUMER" the other two came up as "SPG AX DEFAULT" why are they coming up different?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on May 14, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
I received 5000 points X3 for refferals. one of them came up as "SPG AX MBR REFERRAL - CONSUMER" the other two came up as "SPG AX DEFAULT" why are they coming up different?
it's 5k points per referral right?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 14, 2014, 06:09:02 PM
it's 5k points per referral right?
Yes so total would be 15k although on spg it has two of then as amex and one as amex MBR
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Jay s on May 14, 2014, 09:05:02 PM
How long does it normally take for referral points to post
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dudi on May 14, 2014, 11:38:48 PM
I received 5000 points X3 for refferals. one of them came up as "SPG AX MBR REFERRAL - CONSUMER" the other two came up as "SPG AX DEFAULT" why are they coming up different?
how do I get a refferal link?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on May 14, 2014, 11:45:42 PM
how do I get a refferal link?
it's on your spg.com login page. You can refer up to 11 people for 5K points each if approved.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dudi on May 14, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
it's on your spg.com login page. You can refer up to 11 people for 5K points each if approved.
well shame if I would have known I could have given one of you guys 5k points 3 days ago
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on May 15, 2014, 12:00:07 AM
well shame if I would have known I could have given one of you guys 5k points 3 days ago
Sometimes Dan has an spg link on DDMS, but I don't see it now...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dudi on May 15, 2014, 12:06:16 AM
Sometimes Dan has an spg link on DDMS, but I don't see it now...
I searched for it and tried clicking it didn't work.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on May 15, 2014, 12:18:39 AM
I searched for it and tried clicking it didn't work.
All amex links are dead
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mil on May 16, 2014, 02:40:28 PM
how come spg is not on the dans deals website anymore?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 16, 2014, 02:41:12 PM

you can call up and get gold if you have the card?
what perks does that get you?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mil on May 16, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
i always thought starwood was dans deals best card? is  it not anymore?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 16, 2014, 02:58:48 PM
how come spg is not on the dans deals website anymore?
Welcome to the forums. We like to search before asking, but definitely before starting a new thread, so thanks for at least finding the right thread. Just look one post up from what you wrote and you'll see that there are no more affiliate links with AMEX. Not for Dan, not for anyone.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 16, 2014, 02:59:18 PM
you can call up and get gold if you have the card?
what perks does that get you?
YMMV. I know people that got bumped up, I tried twice and didn't.
I know 1 perk is getting upgrades if available.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
i always thought starwood was dans deals best card? is  it not anymore?
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Starwood1/
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/starwoodbusiness
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mil on May 16, 2014, 03:06:17 PM
im new to this credit card stuff. what is dans deals top credit card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2014, 03:07:32 PM
im new to this credit card stuff. what is dans deals top credit card?
There is no such thing as a best credit card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mil on May 16, 2014, 03:11:12 PM
well right now i have a has advantage and im not getting much from that. i spend about 250000 a year on the card. what card do you suggest i switch to?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on May 16, 2014, 03:49:03 PM
well right now i have a has advantage and im not getting much from that. i spend about 250000 a year on the card. what card do you suggest i switch to?

Depends what you spend it on.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 16, 2014, 03:59:23 PM
well right now i have a has advantage and im not getting much from that. i spend about 250000 a year on the card. what card do you suggest i switch to?
But ideally, you should always be using new cards to hit the spending thresholds on each.
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Starwood1/
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/starwoodbusiness
I thought all AMEX links were dead...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on May 16, 2014, 04:11:19 PM
thought all AMEX links were dead...
Affiliate links are, but he might still get a referral bonus. You gotta make a living somehow...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 16, 2014, 04:22:22 PM
Affiliate links are, but he might still get a referral bonus. You gotta make a living somehow...
Oh true. SPG is 5K bonus up to 55K/year.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on May 19, 2014, 09:54:02 AM
Is it possible to transfer starwood points to an airline account on a different name?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on May 21, 2014, 07:49:56 PM
They just sent me a new SPG card with a chip.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on May 21, 2014, 08:34:06 PM
They just sent me a new SPG card with a chip.
cool... I have a few, but none of them have chips... Applied after May 1?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on May 21, 2014, 08:39:39 PM
cool... I have a few, but none of them have chips... Applied after May 1?
had it for almost 8 months. Only sent me one...Not even for au
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on May 21, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
had it for almost 8 months. Only sent me one...Not even for au
sent you a new one for any specific reason? Others were lost? Any request? Out of the blue?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on May 21, 2014, 09:00:34 PM
sent you a new one for any specific reason? Others were lost? Any request? Out of the blue?
out of the blue as far as I can tell
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Hamavin on May 29, 2014, 03:16:27 PM
Just got starwood biz(last was in 2011) first statement came i spent 3k but no 10k bonus showed up does it make sense it will take another statement?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on May 29, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
Just got starwood biz(last was in 2011) first statement came i spent 3k but no 10k bonus showed up does it make sense it will take another statement?

No. When did you close the other one?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on May 29, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
"Starwood Agent: We can hold the booking for up to a week (seven days) waiting for the points."
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Hamavin on May 29, 2014, 06:50:10 PM
No. When did you close the other one?
05/04/2011
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 30, 2014, 01:42:59 PM
whats the current spending threshold for this card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on May 30, 2014, 02:42:26 PM
First purchase regardless of how much gets you 10,000 .
5k in 6 months gets another 15k.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: avremie on May 30, 2014, 07:30:19 PM
I just got a email to refer q friend they will get 10k after the first purchase and additional 20k after 5k spend. Does that mean they can get 35k points or it includes the points for spending?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: joelr773 on May 30, 2014, 07:33:35 PM
I also got it now
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SOS on May 30, 2014, 07:38:22 PM
I got the same email
Does that mean the 30k bonus is coming up now?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ariIs on May 30, 2014, 07:48:37 PM

I just received a email from amex, refer a friend and he will receive 30k points and I will receive the same 5k
Not sure if it's targeted probably not!

+1
Got it too.
Looks like it's the time of year for the 30k offer.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on May 30, 2014, 07:55:04 PM
Ummm. .. .  Maybe mods can add a poll,  instead of every single person posting that they got it.  :-X
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: lunatic on May 31, 2014, 09:57:58 PM
Anyone have success in getting matched to the 30k offer
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on May 31, 2014, 11:54:47 PM
DDMS just posted the official 30K: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/45481

New lifetime limit for past starwood card holders in effect, it seems. But if not for businesses, does that mean that a new business, but the same SS# as past 12+ months ago rewards will get the 30K sign-up bonus?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2014, 11:54:52 PM
SPG Consumer 30K (http://email.americanexpress.com/a/hBTiMaxAQB6FsB859q2Nsj7nX.AQB6Fstb/axp2?APPURL=starwood-preferred-credit-card/100018-750-0-CE947B1F455E9C84D2D3DC30CEAF4638F630B68437904BAA-200016-*DvvjdKXnZ2z5y+1Wli6tNHnYkY=)

SPG Business 30K (http://email.americanexpress.com/a/hBTiPcDAQB6FsB8591UNsj7nX.AQB6FstC/axp11?APPURL=starwood-preferred-guest-business-credit-card/apply/44518-9-0-CE947B1F455E9C848CEB00572ABF2CE1F630B68437904BAA-200018-7Xn7TDht03xvOT4FAEuCuiXRHsM=)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Eli C on June 01, 2014, 12:08:37 AM
Anyone have any experience with calling AmEx & getting them to match/increase the signup bonus on an existing AmEx card (I got this card about 1 month ago)? I just called AmEx, agent said AmEx is super strict, they don't change signup bonuses retroactively. I don't want to waste my time HUCA'ing if that's true.

Very weird if true, as AmEx is supposed to have superior customer service, yet Chase just matched two signup bonuses for me!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on June 01, 2014, 12:12:44 AM
Anyone have any experience with calling AmEx & getting them to match/increase the signup bonus on an existing AmEx card (I got this card about 1 month ago)? I just called AmEx, agent said AmEx is super strict, they don't change signup bonuses retroactively. I don't want to waste my time HUCA'ing if that's true.

Very weird if true, as AmEx is supposed to have superior customer service, yet Chase just matched two signup bonuses for me!
Almost impossible... I've got it tho.
Got matched just now for the 30K offer!
#goodtimes
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Eli C on June 01, 2014, 12:23:47 AM
Thanks. Any tips to share, as to what to say to them to get them to match?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on June 01, 2014, 12:30:52 AM

Thanks. Any tips to share, as to what to say to them to get them to match?
Its a hit or miss, I personally wouldn't spend too much time on it, as there aren't many reports of Amex matching.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on June 01, 2014, 01:34:32 AM
if I try and make a referral its still only 25k offer. anyway to change that? what other cards should i apply for 3bm (already have gold)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on June 01, 2014, 01:40:42 AM
I believe I could just wanna make sure, can I refer my wife?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on June 01, 2014, 01:41:53 AM

I believe I could just wanna make sure, can I refer my wife?
Yes.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Nitantnel on June 01, 2014, 01:50:23 AM
if I try and make a referral its still only 25k offer. anyway to change that? what other cards should i apply for 3bm (already have gold)

MP Platinum, Platinum, BRG, Business Platinum, Delta, Jet Blue, Blue cash...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: dovidthebest on June 01, 2014, 10:54:47 AM
amex hade an offer for spg 40,000 Starwood Starpoints Signup Bonus On The spg AMEX Cards at 09/13 does anyone have a screenshot from that please email me
thanks in advance !
dovidthebest@gmail.com
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 01, 2014, 11:25:30 AM
amex hade an offer for spg 40,000 Starwood Starpoints Signup Bonus On The spg AMEX Cards at 09/13 does anyone have a screenshot from that please email me
thanks in advance !
dovidthebest@gmail.com

nice 1st post!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mawmaw on June 01, 2014, 11:16:00 PM
Its a hit or miss, I personally wouldn't spend too much time on it, as there aren't many reports of Amex matching.
+1 called once no go waste of time
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on June 02, 2014, 12:12:28 PM
Its a hit or miss, I personally wouldn't spend too much time on it, as there aren't many reports of Amex matching.
Is any one approach to getting matched better than another?  Like SM vs. calling CS? My daughter just got the card 1 month ago, the standard offer.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 02, 2014, 01:03:28 PM
Has this been confirmed to be under the new restrictions?
If I had one 2 years ago, is it worth a try?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 02, 2014, 01:16:01 PM
Has this been confirmed to be under the new restrictions?
If I had one 2 years ago, is it worth a try?

Feel free to TOFTT.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: how on June 02, 2014, 04:49:16 PM
Its a hit or miss, I personally wouldn't spend too much time on it, as there aren't many reports of Amex matching.
Considering that the standard offer is 15k thousand bonus for spending $5000 and the new offer is 20k for spending $5000 they really dont see what the big difference is.

Although Amex doesn't match offers to quick if your "really" disappointed that you cant get matched you have a nice chance of getting some complimentary points posted to your account.
YMMV
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 02, 2014, 10:51:28 PM
Any reason to sign up for the personal one this time around if I never had either starwood. Better to do the business and keep the option open that the personal may one day have a better bonus now that it is once per lifetime?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 02, 2014, 11:12:03 PM
Any reason to sign up for the personal one this time around if I never had either starwood. Better to do the business and keep the option open that the personal may one day have a better bonus now that it is once per lifetime?
I made that same calculation while applying for my SPG. Nothing to lose.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on June 03, 2014, 12:06:37 PM
Is there a list somewhere of which hotels cost how many points? TIA!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on June 03, 2014, 12:11:13 PM
Any reason to sign up for the personal one this time around if I never had either starwood. Better to do the business and keep the option open that the personal may one day have a better bonus now that it is once per lifetime?
There's always the possibility I guess but AFAIK it doesn't really go higher than 30k, usually once a year...i could be wrong
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on June 03, 2014, 02:14:42 PM
Is there a list somewhere of which hotels cost how many points? TIA!


https://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/categories/popup.html?spgCategoryCode=4

Use the pull down on upper right corner
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on June 06, 2014, 11:02:37 AM
which car rentals does spg transfer to and is that a total waste of points
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on June 06, 2014, 11:19:07 AM
which car rentals does spg transfer to and is that a total waste of points
AFAIK none
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on June 06, 2014, 12:05:12 PM
so there is no way to rent a car using SPG points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on June 06, 2014, 01:31:08 PM
Any idea if I can refer someone to the business card with my referral link if i only have a personal card?

ETA - It doesn't work.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on June 06, 2014, 01:35:25 PM

Any idea if I can refer someone to the business card with my referral link if i only have a personal card?

ETA - It doesn't work.
I think even with a business card you can't refer another business.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on June 06, 2014, 01:39:03 PM
I think even with a business card you can't refer another business.
In the email I got I have the option to refer to a personal or to a business card.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 06, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
I think even with a business card you can't refer another business.
-1
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on June 06, 2014, 02:05:09 PM
Any idea if I can refer someone to the business card with my referral link if i only have a personal card?

ETA - It doesn't work.

see post 2352

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/starwood-starwood-preferred-guest/720571-spg-american-express-master-thread-157.html#post22988658
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on June 06, 2014, 02:36:21 PM
I'm applying for a business card and my business name begins with a number, when I fill out the application I get an error that the business name must begin with a letter,
Any idea what to do?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SPLP on June 06, 2014, 03:40:36 PM
I'm applying for a business card and my business name begins with a number, when I fill out the application I get an error that the business name must begin with a letter,
Any idea what to do?

Write out the nmbr -- one two etc 
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on June 06, 2014, 03:55:17 PM
Write out the nmbr -- one two etc
That's right, I called them and this is what they told me to do.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: thecentury303 on June 07, 2014, 09:07:57 PM
How long does it take for 10k points to post after first purchase?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 07, 2014, 11:56:22 PM
I received 5000 points X3 for refferals. one of them came up as "SPG AX MBR REFERRAL - CONSUMER" the other two came up as "SPG AX DEFAULT" why are they coming up different?
Were the other two referrals business cards?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on June 07, 2014, 11:56:58 PM
Were the other two referrals business cards?
No
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 08, 2014, 12:05:15 AM
No
Aha. Cause I have 5k points posted with this description and I did a business referral AND asked to get matched to the 30k offer. So I was wondering what this 5k is for.
How long does it take for 10k points to post after first purchase?
Mine posted after statment closed.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DBK on June 08, 2014, 01:01:41 AM
Is SPG business as tough as chase has become with the IB and IP?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on June 08, 2014, 01:58:28 AM
Is SPG business as tough as chase has become with the IB and IP?
Not IME but wouldn't rely on one incident. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 08, 2014, 01:59:52 AM
Is SPG business as tough as chase has become with the IB and IP?

Not even close.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: shauly on June 08, 2014, 02:00:41 AM
Not IME but wouldn't rely on one incident. Anyone else?

The SPG personal was my first credit card, and I got approved for the business just a few months later without having to call reconsideration. I haven't had success with any Chase business cards yet. Seems to me that it's easier than Chase.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on June 08, 2014, 02:17:55 AM

Not IME but wouldn't rely on one incident. Anyone else?
Signed up for it after having the personal for a year got excepted after a phone call.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on June 08, 2014, 10:19:26 PM
Anyone heard that you can't get a bonus from both the consumer and buiz? 4 months ago unopened both on the same day and I only got 25k for the buiz they say I can't get anything for consumer.   Any input?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 08, 2014, 11:47:31 PM
Rubbish.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on June 09, 2014, 10:23:36 AM
In the email I got I have the option to refer to a personal or to a business card.

+1

I had forgotten about that e-mail and opened a 25k biz without any links on 6/1 (days before the 30k promo - I had seen posts about the upcoming 30k just assumed amex had the same matching abilities as Chase - uch! Should have read this thread first). I just remembered it this morning, and tried getting the bonus to my wife's personal SPG from chat - they didn't give the 5k but gave her account 3k for goodwill. On an unrelated note I live chatted from my biz and the rep couldn't match me but gave me 3k also for goodwill.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smiley face on June 10, 2014, 11:38:04 PM
Would I be able to transfer spg points to my MR rewards account?
Want to transfer miles out of my MR account, but I am 190 points short.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on June 11, 2014, 12:48:38 AM
Would I be able to transfer spg points to my MR rewards account?
Want to transfer miles out of my MR account, but I am 190 points short.
no
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: smiley face on June 11, 2014, 01:44:00 AM
no
I have 2800 miles, is there anywhere worthwhile where I can transfer them out before I close my account?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on June 11, 2014, 02:03:22 AM
I have 2800 miles, is there anywhere worthwhile where I can transfer them out before I close my account?
If you close your amex cc the points will still be in your spg account
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on June 11, 2014, 02:29:44 AM
If you close your amex cc the points will still be in your spg account
if i acheived starwood gold by spending 30k but then cancel the spg card that i earned it with,but still have other spg card open, do i remain starwood gold? (no i do not have platinum)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 11, 2014, 08:53:28 AM
Would I be able to transfer spg points to my MR rewards account?
Want to transfer miles out of my MR account, but I am 190 points short.
Spend $190
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: TC610 on June 11, 2014, 12:01:05 PM
Want to transfer miles out of my MR account, but I am 190 points short.

Call MR and ask nicely for them to give you 190 points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mdrills on June 12, 2014, 09:06:47 PM
I want to sign up my wife for the Spg card so that I can get 40K points (5+30+5) Is there any way to cancel the card before the fee posts. Is there any reason that I wouldnt cancel it, I have one of my own
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on June 12, 2014, 09:53:26 PM
I want to sign up my wife for the Spg card so that I can get 40K points (5+30+5) Is there any way to cancel the card before the fee posts. Is there any reason that I wouldnt cancel it, I have one of my own
Isn't the first year free?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BarryLincoln on June 13, 2014, 11:53:36 AM
Is this SPG Biz still churnable (<12 months).  My AF is now due, they offered $50 SC.  Wondering if i should cancel and re-apply in 3 months. Advice?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Zevwolf on June 13, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
Does the 30k spend needed to get SPG gold, be spended on one card or can be combined on the personal and business?
Title: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on June 13, 2014, 03:36:00 PM
Does the 30k spend needed to get SPG gold, be spended on one card or can be combined on the personal and business?
In case you're only interest is in Gold status theres a lot easier ways to attain.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Azis Papa on June 13, 2014, 03:50:16 PM
I applied for an SPG consumer card in all of the frenzy at the end of April even though I already had 2(1 biz & 1 consumer).  I used an old member ID that had received an email offer and I used a different email address.  I got the card but, after spending a few $ and the statement closed, it looks like I am not getting any bonuses.  It's probably a bracha levatolla but I figure I have nothing to lose by PUTPACing.  I just wonder if I will have a better shot if I cancel the old SPG consumer card before I call.  Any advice?  TIA
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 13, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
Makes no difference.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: esther gee on June 16, 2014, 10:34:09 PM
I have a open Starwoods Business card, can I open another one in the same business name? If not how long does the old one need to be closed for?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DBK on June 17, 2014, 12:56:09 PM
Is there a greater chance of getting business card approved if use an EIN?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on June 18, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
What number do I call to borrow points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on June 18, 2014, 06:11:54 PM
Anyone know if this time a year there might be a bonus transfer promotion? Like 30% bonus etc
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 18, 2014, 11:26:13 PM
Anyone know if this time a year there might be a bonus transfer promotion? Like 30% bonus etc

i didn't think starwood does bonus promos..amex mr currently has 20% to Hawaiian airlines
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Excalibur on June 19, 2014, 10:07:18 AM
-1
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 23, 2014, 07:18:45 PM
Cool story...

I applied for the business SPG 25K offer at the end of April, and as soon as the 30K offer was out, I chatted with Amex and asked them to match my signup bonus. The rep said they'll open an investigation and to check back with them. A week later I chatted again and asked on the status of the investigation. The rep replies "I have got an excellent news for you, i see 5000 points are pending and will be transferred by the end of this billing cycle to your account, its been taken care off." I was happy I got it since I knew Amex is usually a no-go with matching.

More than a week has passed and the points never showed up in my account, so today I followed up via chat and the rep says that they don't match blah blah blah. I replied with a copy of the chat where the agent told me "i see 5000 points are pending..." and he tells me that those points already posted. So I look at my SPG activity only to realize that those 5,000 points were for a referral. I started arguing with the rep that they never mentioned anything about those points being for a referral, but instead implied that I would be matched to the current offer. He goes to his supervisor and comes back with 5,000 points for me...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on June 23, 2014, 11:01:47 PM

Cool story...

I applied for the business SPG 25K offer at the end of April, and as soon as the 30K offer was out, I chatted with Amex and asked them to match my signup bonus. The rep said they'll open an investigation and to check back with them. A week later I chatted again and asked on the status of the investigation. The rep replies "I have got an excellent news for you, i see 5000 points are pending and will be transferred by the end of this billing cycle to your account, its been taken care off." I was happy I got it since I knew Amex is usually a no-go with matching.

More than a week has passed and the points never showed up in my account, so today I followed up via chat and the rep says that they don't match blah blah blah. I replied with a copy of the chat where the agent told me "i see 5000 points are pending..." and he tells me that those points already posted. So I look at my SPG activity only to realize that those 5,000 points were for a referral. I started arguing with the rep that they never mentioned anything about those points being for a referral, but instead implied that I would be matched to the current offer. He goes to his supervisor and comes back with 5,000 points for me...
Good job!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on June 24, 2014, 12:05:41 AM
Cool story...

I applied for the business SPG 25K offer at the end of April, and as soon as the 30K offer was out, I chatted with Amex and asked them to match my signup bonus. The rep said they'll open an investigation and to check back with them. A week later I chatted again and asked on the status of the investigation. The rep replies "I have got an excellent news for you, i see 5000 points are pending and will be transferred by the end of this billing cycle to your account, its been taken care off." I was happy I got it since I knew Amex is usually a no-go with matching.

More than a week has passed and the points never showed up in my account, so today I followed up via chat and the rep says that they don't match blah blah blah. I replied with a copy of the chat where the agent told me "i see 5000 points are pending..." and he tells me that those points already posted. So I look at my SPG activity only to realize that those 5,000 points were for a referral. I started arguing with the rep that they never mentioned anything about those points being for a referral, but instead implied that I would be matched to the current offer. He goes to his supervisor and comes back with 5,000 points for me...
nice to hear something positive every now and then.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Gevaldik on June 26, 2014, 01:21:50 AM
I signed up for the SPG Starwood Amex card and received it in March before the Consumer card window shut. Amex says I can't get the 25k bonus because I have another card open although my previous bonus was more than 12 months ago. Any suggestion?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Boruch999 on June 26, 2014, 02:42:27 AM
I'm not a hotel type/at a hotel stage of life.  Any point in a Starwood Amex?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 26, 2014, 02:55:26 AM
I'm not a hotel type/at a hotel stage of life.  Any point in a Starwood Amex?
Absolutely. Has the most airline partners from all 3 transfer programs.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: TC610 on June 26, 2014, 10:40:49 AM
I signed up for the SPG Starwood Amex card and received it in March before the Consumer card window shut. Amex says I can't get the 25k bonus because I have another card open although my previous bonus was more than 12 months ago. Any suggestion?

The bonus clock resets when you close the older card, not when you received the bonus.  Since you never closed the older card, according to their T&Cs you were not eligible for the bonus.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on June 26, 2014, 11:55:29 AM
I applied for an SPG consumer card in all of the frenzy at the end of April even though I already had 2(1 biz & 1 consumer).  I used an old member ID that had received an email offer and I used a different email address.  I got the card but, after spending a few $ and the statement closed, it looks like I am not getting any bonuses.  It's probably a bracha levatolla but I figure I have nothing to lose by PUTPACing.  I just wonder if I will have a better shot if I cancel the old SPG consumer card before I call.  Any advice?  TIA
when i tried i had no luck
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on June 26, 2014, 02:37:20 PM
Amex takes their deadlines seriously.. just saw this display ad lol
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on June 27, 2014, 12:24:09 AM
Would Amex match me to the current offer if I got my card in April? Anyone try?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Lou Bob on June 27, 2014, 01:23:15 AM
Would Amex match me to the current offer if I got my card in April? Anyone try?
no
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 27, 2014, 02:33:15 AM
Would Amex match me to the current offer if I got my card in April? Anyone try?
I did. They generally don't match though.
Cool story...

I applied for the business SPG 25K offer at the end of April, and as soon as the 30K offer was out, I chatted with Amex and asked them to match my signup bonus. The rep said they'll open an investigation and to check back with them. A week later I chatted again and asked on the status of the investigation. The rep replies "I have got an excellent news for you, i see 5000 points are pending and will be transferred by the end of this billing cycle to your account, its been taken care off." I was happy I got it since I knew Amex is usually a no-go with matching.

More than a week has passed and the points never showed up in my account, so today I followed up via chat and the rep says that they don't match blah blah blah. I replied with a copy of the chat where the agent told me "i see 5000 points are pending..." and he tells me that those points already posted. So I look at my SPG activity only to realize that those 5,000 points were for a referral. I started arguing with the rep that they never mentioned anything about those points being for a referral, but instead implied that I would be matched to the current offer. He goes to his supervisor and comes back with 5,000 points for me...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on June 27, 2014, 09:25:13 AM
I just called and spoke to a real friendly rep who gave me the additional 5000 points without any effort on my part bh.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on June 27, 2014, 09:37:10 AM
I just called and spoke to a real friendly rep who gave me the additional 5000 points without any effort on my part bh.
Nicely done!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on June 27, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Nicely done!
It's even nicer as the additional points have already posted and I have yet to spend the $5k.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DBK on June 27, 2014, 12:24:59 PM
For calling AMEX recon will giving an EIN for the business card help change their mind?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Ephraimh on June 30, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
Applied a few days ago for the consumer card, I was declined (probably for being maxed out on my new delta card)

HUCA'ed a few times, everybody comes back with the same answer that I'll have to wait on the letter to reconsider the app...

Which has one problem, the letter is going to arrive after the 30k bonus deadline..

Anybody knows if they'll still give me the bonus??
I assume that the app needs to be approved latest today...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoss6400 on June 30, 2014, 02:59:52 PM
just applied decision pending, should i call recon right away? or wait
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: SOS on June 30, 2014, 03:43:18 PM
Why would you wait
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Thingywingy on June 30, 2014, 06:31:38 PM
30k offer not working. cant get regular dd link either. Dan do you have a working link?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoss6400 on June 30, 2014, 06:57:19 PM
try this

https://www304.americanexpress.com/credit-card/starwood-preferred-guest/28000?ccsgeep=28000&psboth=CCSG_Google_PA_SPG_Exact
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Thingywingy on June 30, 2014, 07:07:19 PM
try this

https://www304.americanexpress.com/credit-card/starwood-preferred-guest/28000?ccsgeep=28000&psboth=CCSG_Google_PA_SPG_Exact
or this https://www304.americanexpress.com/credit-card/starwood-preferred-guest

Did it with 30k offer, but not with Dans link:). I made sure to take a screenshot!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bb1836 on July 01, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
quick question. is my wife able to transfer her SPG points to my account? we dont have the same last name yet.....
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on July 01, 2014, 03:58:59 PM
quick question. is my wife able to transfer her SPG points to my account? we dont have the same last name yet.....
it should work if you both live at the same address and that's the address on file.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on July 01, 2014, 04:44:56 PM
quick question. is my wife able to transfer her SPG points to my account? we dont have the same last name yet.....

Yes, done it many times.

According to SPG.com, it seems you need to share an address but relationship seems irrelevant.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on July 01, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
Yes, done it many times.

According to SPG.com, it seems you need to share an address but relationship seems irrelevant.
if that's the case, then can we have 8 people at the same address and share/transfer points for free? (good for reaching plat status...)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 01, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
if that's the case, then can we have 8 people at the same address and share/transfer points for free? (good for reaching plat status...)
You can reach plat status with credit card points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on July 01, 2014, 06:06:09 PM
You can reach plat status with credit card points?
no, but with a lot of spg points in one acct, you can get a lot of free stays (or Cash & Points) at Starwood hotels, but you actually have to stay there -
and if you hit 50 nights in a year, you have platinum status plus some certificates for upgrades.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on July 02, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
no, but with a lot of spg points in one acct, you can get a lot of free stays (or Cash & Points) at Starwood hotels, but you actually have to stay there -
and if you hit 50 nights in a year, you have platinum status plus some certificates for upgrades.

Do reward stays count toward status (sorry for the newb question)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 02, 2014, 04:31:27 PM
Do reward stays count toward status (sorry for the newb question)
ooohh ya!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 02, 2014, 09:20:58 PM
how long would a transfer to Delta miles take?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on July 02, 2014, 09:25:31 PM
Do reward stays count toward status (sorry for the newb question)
yes - that's exactly why the bonus points help pple reach platinum.  cash and points are sometimes hard to find, but it stretches your points so you can make it. the prob is that i think it goes by calendar year, so it's hard to reach 50 nights if you start now, but even gold status (10 stays in a calendar year) is worth it for late check-out and room upgrades and bonus spg points at every check-in.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on July 02, 2014, 10:01:06 PM
how long would a transfer to Delta miles take?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2022.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2022.0)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 02, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
I'm not a hotel type/at a hotel stage of life.  Any point in a Starwood Amex?
i am in the same boat but I figured why not.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: CS1 on July 02, 2014, 10:04:59 PM
I'm not a hotel type/at a hotel stage of life.  Any point in a Starwood Amex?

yes! Starwood is one of the best cards, imo...  It provides the amex return protection and it also now has bonus transfer points to AA and USAirways as Dan just posted on DDMS this week:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/46851
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 02, 2014, 10:05:30 PM
i am in the same boat but I figured why not.
Starpoints are the most valuable currency out there even if you don't care for hotels, i.e. airline miles transfer at a 20:25 ratio and more.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 02, 2014, 10:12:41 PM
Starpoints are the most valuable currency out there even if you don't care for hotels, i.e. airline miles transfer at a 20:25 ratio and more.
from what I have read wouldn't UR points be at or near the top?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 02, 2014, 10:16:21 PM
from what I have read wouldn't UR points be at or near the top?
Close but not equal their just easier to accumulate.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 02, 2014, 10:18:21 PM
Close but not equal their just easier to accumulate.
got it. i was looking at 5x at Staples.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 02, 2014, 10:19:38 PM
got it. i was looking at 5x at Staples.
Yup, if only spg offered that too!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on July 02, 2014, 11:01:42 PM

yes - that's exactly why the bonus points help pple reach platinum.  cash and points are sometimes hard to find, but it stretches your points so you can make it. the prob is that i think it goes by calendar year, so it's hard to reach 50 nights if you start now, but even gold status (10 stays in a calendar year) is worth it for late check-out and room upgrades and bonus spg points at every check-in.

Thanks. Yeah I have gold from spending 30k. 50 nights is insane I don't get half that much vacation lol.

What if I booked a room for someone else from my account using points and he stayed? Does that night count for me?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on July 02, 2014, 11:15:45 PM
Thanks. Yeah I have gold from spending 30k. 50 nights is insane I don't get half that much vacation lol.

What if I booked a room for someone else from my account using points and he stayed? Does that night count for me?
yes, they count that towards the 50 nights (and sometimes it's as low as 1500 pts plus $30 for a room). best if you have both your name and his name on the reservation.

i.e. you first sign up online at spg.com with your points and then you call the hotel to add a second person to the reservation. He can show his ID upon check-in and you're all set. You also get bonus spg points with each stay. And, more spg points when you use your starwood card for starwood hotel charges/purchases.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on July 03, 2014, 01:41:24 AM
I upgraded to gold using platinum card. I never stayed in a spg hotel. It says I have 2 nights left to re-earn gold and 17 to earn platinum. Does this make sense?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on July 03, 2014, 11:56:09 AM
BDF - great info, thanks.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on July 03, 2014, 12:06:24 PM
I upgraded to gold using platinum card. I never stayed in a spg hotel. It says I have 2 nights left to re-earn gold and 17 to earn platinum. Does this make sense?
yes - Need total of 10 stays for gold and 25 stays for platinum status. Even if you haven't stayed, they start you off with 5-8 stays when logging in or using your amex. So it's often very quick to get to gold. Sometimes they will roll it over to the next year. it's good until 2/2015
you may like many of the starwood locations. The Sheratons are better than the Four Points in many cases even if it's only a 1K cost diff, they are more upscale. the Westins and "W"s are pricey but great locations and customer service.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Boruch999 on July 03, 2014, 05:35:14 PM
Thinking about applying for SPG Amex.  What else to add to the 3BM?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on July 03, 2014, 05:45:23 PM
What don't you have?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Boruch999 on July 03, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
I currently have from Amex:

Blue (plain old with MR grandfathered in i think)
Platinum (Just made spend for 40k point, debating whether to keep)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on July 10, 2014, 12:27:32 AM
Thinking about applying for SPG Amex.  What else to add to the 3BM?
PRG ?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on July 14, 2014, 11:16:13 AM
Thanks. Yeah I have gold from spending 30k. 50 nights is insane I don't get half that much vacation lol.

What if I booked a room for someone else from my account using points and he stayed? Does that night count for me?
Once you spend the 30k do they send you an email to notify you that you have reached Gold Status? and is that Gold Status Life Time Gold or just for that year?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on July 14, 2014, 11:30:54 AM
Once you spend the 30k do they send you an email to notify you that you have reached Gold Status? and is that Gold Status Life Time Gold or just for that year?
Its only for that year and the next year I believe, its definitely not lifetime.

Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on July 14, 2014, 11:39:41 AM
Yeah it's until the next February I think. I don't believe I got emailed. But if u log into spg it should tell u your satus
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on July 14, 2014, 02:03:45 PM
Yeah it's until the next February I think. I don't believe I got emailed. But if u log into spg it should tell u your satus
thank you.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on July 15, 2014, 10:19:08 AM
Should i be wary of a hard credit pull when transferring credit from one amex to another?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on July 15, 2014, 02:33:03 PM
Should i be wary of a hard credit pull when transferring credit from one amex to another?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated (BUMP)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: yoshi on July 15, 2014, 05:27:43 PM
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated (BUMP)
Putpac
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on July 15, 2014, 05:28:44 PM
Putpac
Im looking for personal experience they say it potentially can but they dont expect it
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 21, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
how much is 7k in spg points usually worth?
im booking a hotel for a friend of mine and he wants to know what he owes me
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on July 21, 2014, 03:22:05 PM

how much is 7k in spg points usually worth?
im booking a hotel for a friend of mine and he wants to know what he owes me
I think brokers are paying around 1.7 per point and that would be $119
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on July 21, 2014, 03:28:43 PM
I think brokers are paying around 1.7 per point and that would be $119
that sounds low for a 7K (Cat 3?) room. Most retail for over $199. Maybe he can pay $149 as a deal. sometimes there is a availability for cash & points, may be cheaper.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 21, 2014, 03:34:25 PM
the room goes for 170
no C&P available for those dates
I don't mind giving a discount to him
1.7 sounds high
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Super Speed on July 21, 2014, 03:46:54 PM

the room goes for 170
no C&P available for those dates
I don't mind giving a discount to him
1.7 sounds high
For 7K by itself is high but if you would've sold it as a 60K package it would've fetched 1.7
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 21, 2014, 03:48:51 PM
For 7K by itself is high but if you would've sold it as a 60K package it would've fetched 1.7
when's the last time a broker bought spg @ 1.7... Last time I sold, cudnt find higher than 1.5
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 21, 2014, 03:52:08 PM
so im horrible at math

1.5 for 7k is how much
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 21, 2014, 03:54:12 PM
so im horrible at math

1.5 for 7k is how much
105
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on July 21, 2014, 03:55:04 PM
so im horrible at math

1.5 for 7k is how much
$105
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 21, 2014, 04:00:53 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on July 21, 2014, 11:26:26 PM
so im horrible at math

1.5 for 7k is how much
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=42188.new#new
           
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 22, 2014, 09:20:18 AM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=42188.new#new
         

thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 22, 2014, 09:39:10 AM
Is it possible to switch a BGR to a Starwood?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mrrickva on July 22, 2014, 12:34:27 PM
Once you spend the 30k do they send you an email to notify you that you have reached Gold Status? and is that Gold Status Life Time Gold or just for that year?
I just received the email about the renewed gold status, which did not mention the exp date. I went into my acct on the SPG website, saw the gold status but again couldn't find exp date. Finally called and was told 29 Feb 2016. Interestingly, the rep knew nothing about earning gold with the 30K spend, even insisted the only way was with stays and nights.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on July 23, 2014, 01:42:29 PM
"50% Off Regular Rack Rates*
You can redeem just 1,000 Starpoints® for a certificate offering 50% off regular rack rates for a stay of up to five nights.*"

Does anyone do this? http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/redeem/50_off.html?language=en_US Is there a catch?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 23, 2014, 03:25:05 PM
"50% Off Regular Rack Rates*
You can redeem just 1,000 Starpoints® for a certificate offering 50% off regular rack rates for a stay of up to five nights.*"

Does anyone do this? http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/redeem/50_off.html?language=en_US Is there a catch?
"Unlike Free Nights Awards, 50% Off Regular Rack Rates awards are subject to availability." Does anyone know if there ever is availability?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on July 23, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
"Unlike Free Nights Awards, 50% Off Regular Rack Rates awards are subject to availability." Does anyone know if there ever is availability?
Hmmm
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 23, 2014, 03:37:35 PM
So, the Starwood game has to be over right? For 1 SSN, you can maximum get the consumer card bonus once and you could churn the biz card, but it still takes 12 months to do so, so for all intents and purposes, you're not getting too many points here. I never really got how people had so many SPG even before the end of AMEX churning bc even if you churned both cards every year, you could only get 60K a year which is a joke compared to Chase hotel cards.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BarryLincoln on July 23, 2014, 03:44:58 PM
So, the Starwood game has to be over right? For 1 SSN, you can maximum get the consumer card bonus once and you could churn the biz card, but it still takes 12 months to do so, so for all intents and purposes, you're not getting too many points here. I never really got how people had so many SPG even before the end of AMEX churning bc even if you churned both cards every year, you could only get 60K a year which is a joke compared to Chase hotel cards.

I think some may have applied under multiple businesses to get multiple versions of the card... no?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 23, 2014, 03:57:46 PM
I think some may have applied under multiple businesses to get multiple versions of the card... no?
Aha, I hear that idea (which could technically still work even now) but FME with Chase at least, they really don't care about business names and don't even care if it's your only claimed business - if you have a lot of pulls/credit on your personal account, you can't get more business cards. Unless AMEX really views your different businesses as completely different entities, then I can't imagine getting 5 SPGs under 1 SSN.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 23, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
I think some may have applied under multiple businesses to get multiple versions of the card... no?

I tried that one with Amex and did not get the points for second business.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on July 23, 2014, 05:05:28 PM
I never really got how people had so many SPG even before the end of AMEX churning bc even if you churned both cards every year, you could only get 60K a year which is a joke compared to Chase hotel cards.
Once upon a time there was no 12 month rule either...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 23, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
Once upon a time there was no 12 month rule either...
Ahh makes sense. But nowadays...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 23, 2014, 07:22:50 PM
MS, my friend, MS.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 23, 2014, 07:35:45 PM
MS, my friend, MS.
WELL SAID AJK!! MS MS!!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2014, 08:47:41 PM
Once upon a time there was no 12 month rule either...
Amongst other methods ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 23, 2014, 09:56:26 PM
Amongst other methods ;)

At least one of those methods worked recently with HGP...  :-X
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on July 23, 2014, 10:07:27 PM
At least one of those methods worked recently with HGP...  :-X
Going :-X mid of a sentence is illegal, either you zip up and say nothing or you just finish it up.... >:(
(I hope the emojo scared you :D )
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2014, 10:08:28 PM
At least one of those methods worked recently with HGP...  :-X
Why stop at HGP?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 23, 2014, 10:26:16 PM
Going :-X mid of a sentence is illegal, either you zip up and say nothing or you just finish it up.... >:(
(I hope the emojo scared you :D )

Yup... this characterized my reaction as I read your post:

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/9kKlRx7qpUGze/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 23, 2014, 10:27:05 PM
Why stop at HGP?

I actually ended up using all my HH :P
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on July 23, 2014, 10:46:00 PM
Yup... this characterized my reaction as I read your post:

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/9kKlRx7qpUGze/giphy.gif)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/24/hypapa3y.jpg)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on July 23, 2014, 10:48:54 PM

Time for a haircut?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Centro on July 23, 2014, 10:53:40 PM
Time for a haircut?
I actually do need one desperately.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on July 23, 2014, 11:07:03 PM
I actually do need one desperately.
you and everyone else
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: meshugener on July 24, 2014, 01:15:33 AM
At least one of those methods worked recently with HGP...  :-X
AJK, wow! you're so mighty and big! You know what I don't know! Phew!

But I guess that was not enough for you.

What would your gain of knowing a secret and making use of it without making all other members here feel jealous?

Seems like the answer is a big zero.

You're fantastic! We all little people look on you like David on Goliath.

You achieved your goal! לחיים!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Novo on July 24, 2014, 01:58:55 AM
AJK, wow! you're so mighty and big! You know what I don't know! Phew!

But I guess that was not enough for you.

What would your gain of knowing a secret and making use of it without making all other members here feel jealous?

Seems like the answer is a big zero.

You're fantastic! We all little people look on you like David on Goliath.

You achieved your goal! לחיים!
Like
You're so cute, so Meshuga
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: joey123 on July 24, 2014, 02:01:50 AM
Why stop at HGP?

Sorry for the ignorance, but what's HGP?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MC on July 24, 2014, 02:05:00 AM

Sorry for the ignorance, but what's HGP?
Hyatt Gold Passport?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 24, 2014, 04:42:08 AM
MS, my friend, MS.
I still can't get myself to deal with the hassle of MS if it's not for hitting a spend.
Amongst other methods ;)
There are so many "secrets" in this game. I feel like 10 DDFers know some/all of them and probably each of the bloggers and maybe a handful of FTers. For the rest of us, we have to settle for 6 week trips through Europe.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: EJB on July 24, 2014, 08:04:53 AM

I still can't get myself to deal with the hassle of MS if it's not for hitting a spend.There are so many "secrets" in this game. I feel like 10 DDFers know some/all of them and probably each of the bloggers and maybe a handful of FTers. For the rest of us, we have to settle for 6 week trips through Europe.

Cry me a river
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: joey123 on July 24, 2014, 09:31:15 AM

I still can't get myself to deal with the hassle of MS if it's not for hitting a spend.There are so many "secrets" in this game. I feel like 10 DDFers know some/all of them and probably each of the bloggers and maybe a handful of FTers. For the rest of us, we have to settle for 6 week trips through Europe.
If this is how you define settling-you seem to have one awesome life! Lol Btw how many more weeks until your done with your vacation? When it's all over, I am looking forward to reading the TR.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: shoppy810 on July 24, 2014, 10:02:57 AM
I opened up an spg card, before the cutoff of the new rules...this was my second card, they did post the spending bonuss points to my account after I did the required spending...any reason why?? they said because i already have another spg card...anyway to get around it?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 24, 2014, 11:31:08 AM
[picture redacted]

I think my picture was funnier  ;)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 24, 2014, 11:50:56 AM
if I booked a regular room with my spg points do I automatically get upgraded to a club room?
are there special spg rooms?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 24, 2014, 12:25:05 PM
if I booked a regular room with my spg points do I automatically get upgraded to a club room?

No.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 24, 2014, 08:28:21 PM
If this is how you define settling-you seem to have one awesome life! Lol Btw how many more weeks until your done with your vacation? When it's all over, I am looking forward to reading the TR.
Was sarcastic. Although, it is settling compared to the pros here. :)

Back in the states now. Working on TR when I can.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: joey123 on July 24, 2014, 08:43:25 PM

Was sarcastic. Although, it is settling compared to the pros here. :)

Back in the states now. Working on TR when I can.
Looking forward to reading it!
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bobthebuilder on July 28, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
if I booked a regular room with my spg points do I automatically get upgraded to a club room?
are there special spg rooms?
If you're a gold member the guy at the counter may be nice and give it to you, nothing is automatic though
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: MC on July 28, 2014, 06:21:39 PM
Was there a DDMS post weighing the pros of keeping an SPG open and paying the annual fee?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on July 29, 2014, 12:22:41 AM

Was there a DDMS post weighing the pros of keeping an SPG open and paying the annual fee?

Mostly based on AUs and SBS.

A dash of purchase protections and good card for general spend.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: JamesIV on July 30, 2014, 10:43:39 PM
Just got a $20 off $20 at Amazon under my offers tab. Cool
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: helpusout on July 31, 2014, 10:17:17 AM
Hi, I am looking to book 4 nights in the St Regis in PR.
Any of you Starwood pros have any insight how to get it for cheaper than $500/ night, or at least get an upgrade?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Jay s on July 31, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
Hi, I am looking to book 4 nights in the St Regis in PR.
Any of you Starwood pros have any insight how to get it for cheaper than $500/ night, or at least get an upgrade?
Are you a gold member that might help for an upgrade .
Try asking for the rack rate and you could redeem 1k starpoints for 50% the rack rate.
Or there's a AAA rate on the Starwood site
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 31, 2014, 03:38:55 PM
If you're a gold member the guy at the counter may be nice and give it to you, nothing is automatic though

are you gold automatically when you get the 30k points from amex?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 31, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
are you gold automatically when you get the 30k points from amex?
From spending or sign up?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 31, 2014, 03:49:07 PM
I did the spending for the bonus
does that count
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 31, 2014, 04:02:06 PM
I did the spending for the bonus
does that count
Yes, it counts towards gold status but that won't get you gold status until you spend $30k IIRC.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: mercaz1 on July 31, 2014, 04:07:06 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 31, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
A short while ago, I asked how people have so many SPG points. When AMEX was in full swing, you could at maximum get 60-70K a year from the 2 CC's signup bonuses. Nowadays, you can at maximum get 30-35K for the consumer once and then another 30-35K for the biz every year. That's maybe 1-2 free nights a year - not at their top hotels.

Someone suggested MS on the cards - if you don't have a threshold to hit on a different card, why not spend your MS on this card? A few thousand dollars for free from AP maybe, but I assume that really meant MS from GC's. Here's my problem:

I just added it up. Even if you're one of the lucky few to find GC's for $3 a pop, that's $6 for every $1000 of MS - 1000 SPG points. The top SPG hotels start at 40K/night. That means $6 x 40 = $240 and for most of everyone here who pays $6/GC, that's $12 x 40 = $480 for 40,000 points to stay just one night at a fancy SPG hotel. To take an example, the Hotel Danieli in Venice costs $490/night next week.

How could MS possibly make sense here???
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: EJB on July 31, 2014, 04:58:04 PM
A short while ago, I asked how people have so many SPG points. When AMEX was in full swing, you could at maximum get 60-70K a year from the 2 CC's signup bonuses. Nowadays, you can at maximum get 30-35K for the consumer once and then another 30-35K for the biz every year. That's maybe 1-2 free nights a year - not at their top hotels.

Someone suggested MS on the cards - if you don't have a threshold to hit on a different card, why not spend your MS on this card? A few thousand dollars for free from AP maybe, but I assume that really meant MS from GC's. Here's my problem:

I just added it up. Even if you're one of the lucky few to find GC's for $3 a pop, that's $6 for every $1000 of MS - 1000 SPG points. The top SPG hotels start at 40K/night. That means $6 x 40 = $240 and for most of everyone here who pays $6/GC, that's $12 x 40 = $480 for 40,000 points to stay just one night at a fancy SPG hotel. To take an example, the Hotel Danieli in Venice costs $490/night next week.

How could MS possibly make sense here???

Most people here spend $6 a GC? And, as is the case with most rewards programs, not every redemption is a good deal. $.012/point for an SPG redemption is not considered good.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 31, 2014, 05:01:42 PM
Most people here spend $6 a GC? And, as is the case with most rewards programs, not every redemption is a good deal. $.012/point for an SPG redemption is not considered good.
Read the BB or Serve thread, and yes, you'll see that most people don't know where to find $3 GC's.
I hear the math, but above I was told that people rack up SPG points via MS. I don't see how that's financially valuable.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on July 31, 2014, 05:02:46 PM
A short while ago, I asked how people have so many SPG points. When AMEX was in full swing, you could at maximum get 60-70K a year from the 2 CC's signup bonuses. Nowadays, you can at maximum get 30-35K for the consumer once and then another 30-35K for the biz every year. That's maybe 1-2 free nights a year - not at their top hotels.
???
Someone suggested MS on the cards - if you don't have a threshold to hit on a different card, why not spend your MS on this card? A few thousand dollars for free from AP maybe, but I assume that really meant MS from GC's. Here's my problem:

I just added it up. Even if you're one of the lucky few to find GC's for $3 a pop, that's $6 for every $1000 of MS - 1000 SPG points. The top SPG hotels start at 40K/night. That means $6 x 40 = $240 and for most of everyone here who pays $6/GC, that's $12 x 40 = $480 for 40,000 points to stay just one night at a fancy SPG hotel. To take an example, the Hotel Danieli in Venice costs $490/night next week.

How could MS possibly make sense here???
Well, try this example; The St. Regis Bal Harbour = 30/35k per night or $900+.

ETA: Also, you might want to include the fifth night free in your calculations.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 31, 2014, 05:18:18 PM
???

Well, try this example; The St. Regis Bal Harbour = 30/35k per night or $900+.

ETA: Also, you might want to include the fifth night free in your calculations.
You could churn each card every 12 months. If you got it at a regular offer, you could get 30K per card. If you got it at the higher offer, you could get 35K per card.

Even then, when it clearly has a larger value, how do people justify spending $400 on GC's to stay 1 night at a fancy hotel. $400 on GC's could be used to hit spend bonuses and gain hundreds of thousands of points in different currencies. I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on July 31, 2014, 05:19:19 PM
You could churn each card every 12 months. If you got it at a regular offer, you could get 30K per card. If you got it at the higher offer, you could get 35K per card.

Even then, when it clearly has a larger value, how do people justify spending $400 on GC's to stay 1 night at a fancy hotel. $400 on GC's could be used to hit spend bonuses and gain hundreds of thousands of points in different currencies. I just don't get it.
Apparently the box is bigger than ordinary MS.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on July 31, 2014, 05:23:04 PM
You could churn each card every 12 months. If you got it at a regular offer, you could get 30K per card. If you got it at the higher offer, you could get 35K per card.
Once upon a time there was no 12 month rule either...
Even then, when it clearly has a larger value, how do people justify spending $400 on GC's to stay 1 night at a fancy hotel. $400 on GC's could be used to hit spend bonuses and gain hundreds of thousands of points in different currencies. I just don't get it.
There are only so much cards and inquiries one can have, you know...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: EJB on July 31, 2014, 05:25:53 PM

There are only so much cards and inquiries one can have, you know...

But MS is limitless :) (until you get shut down)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 31, 2014, 05:57:06 PM
Eh... I don't think I'll ever be convinced. GC's and WM are too much work (esp. for an NYCer) just to get a $1-1point exchange.

Let's put it this way:
If a trip to Walmart isn't getting me a trip to Hawaii, I'm don't want to go.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: EJB on July 31, 2014, 06:03:54 PM
Eh... I don't think I'll ever be convinced. GC's and WM are too much work (esp. for an NYCer) just to get a $1-1point exchange.

Let's put it this way:
If a trip to Walmart isn't getting me a trip to Hawaii, I'm don't want to go.

Miles don't grow on trees.... They grow in WM money centers.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 31, 2014, 06:06:17 PM
Miles don't grow on trees.... They grow at WM cashiers.
FTFY at least in central NJ.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: EJB on July 31, 2014, 06:52:34 PM

FTFY at least in central NJ.

You should learn to get around...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: helpusout on August 01, 2014, 11:38:24 AM
Are you a gold member that might help for an upgrade .
Try asking for the rack rate and you could redeem 1k starpoints for 50% the rack rate.
Or there's a AAA rate on the Starwood site

Thanks, they said the rack rate is not available for my nights.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on August 17, 2014, 08:33:06 PM
Does it make sense that the hotel employee needs my starwood password to book a hotel with points?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 17, 2014, 08:33:51 PM
Does it make sense that the hotel employee needs my starwood password to book a hotel with points?
They need your verbal password but can usually help if you don't remember it. You can also set it up online before calling them.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on August 17, 2014, 08:35:01 PM
They need your verbal password but can usually help if you don't remember it. You can also set it up online before calling them.
What's a verbal password?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 17, 2014, 08:37:35 PM
What's a verbal password?
Something you should have set up online
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on August 17, 2014, 08:42:59 PM
Something you should have set up online
Oh
:)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 23, 2014, 02:10:44 PM
there is a link going around for $3000 spend instead of $5000. though I don't know if there is affiliate links for that.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DBK on August 27, 2014, 11:57:57 AM
If applying for SPG business card should I use membership number from the personal card or open new one and ask to be consolidated after?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Novo on August 27, 2014, 12:03:12 PM
If applying for SPG business card should I use membership number from the personal card or open new one and ask to be consolidated after?
Use your current SPG number, I just did it and got my 10k already.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: DBK on August 27, 2014, 12:12:44 PM
Use your current SPG number, I just did it and got my 10k already.
Awesome thanks
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on August 29, 2014, 12:33:01 AM
my spg account says 6 stays ytd / 15 nights ytd   I've never stayed at an SPG property since becoming a member aside pesach program which don't coun't so I assume this is standard for all cardholders...my question is what does it mean for me? anything? if I don't add to it it's worthless?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 29, 2014, 12:36:52 AM
my spg account says 6 stays ytd / 15 nights ytd   I've never stayed at an SPG property since becoming a member aside pesach program which don't coun't so I assume this is standard for all cardholders...my question is what does it mean for me? anything? if I don't add to it it's worthless?
You must have combined a few accounts. Every time you open a card they give you 2 stays / 5 nights. It's good towards status but you should be able to get gold without it
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on August 29, 2014, 12:37:30 AM
You must have combined a few accounts
I have 3 cards...do I get any benefit?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: BigDanFan on August 29, 2014, 12:38:00 AM
my spg account says 6 stays ytd / 15 nights ytd   I've never stayed at an SPG property since becoming a member aside pesach program which don't coun't so I assume this is standard for all cardholders...my question is what does it mean for me? anything? if I don't add to it it's worthless?
if you earn 4 more stays by Dec. 31, it's worth it to be a gold status member for the entire year 2015 plus through Feb 2016.

You get late 4:00 check out, bonus points upon check-in, and jr. upgrades if available, etc..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on August 29, 2014, 12:38:29 AM
if you earn 4 more stays by Dec. 31, it's worth it to be a gold member.

You get late 4:00 check out, bonus points upon check-in, and jr. upgrades if available, etc..
already gold due to VRs :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 29, 2014, 12:39:19 AM
I have 3 cards...do I get any benefit?
I guess you can work towards platinum
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Novo on August 29, 2014, 12:39:26 AM
You must have combined a few accounts
? How many nights would one have with 1 card?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on August 29, 2014, 12:40:43 AM
? How many nights would one have with 1 card?
I edited my post
You must have combined a few accounts. Every time you open a card they give you 2 stays / 5 nights. It's good towards status but you should be able to get gold without it
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ah on August 29, 2014, 01:32:55 AM
I edited my post
so only gives status? no free nights after certain amount or something like that?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Excalibur on September 01, 2014, 07:34:10 AM
I traded 20k BA for 20k Starwood, however I'm not sure what to do with it, I've been holding it for awhile. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: avremie on September 02, 2014, 12:41:23 AM
I traded 20k BA for 20k Starwood, however I'm not sure what to do with it, I've been holding it for awhile. Any recommendations?
Transfer it to your ba account of 25% bonus
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Excalibur on September 02, 2014, 07:31:20 AM
It doesn't require same name transfer? Is it possible to open a new Starwood account with his address and wait 30 days and transfer to my AA?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Excalibur on September 03, 2014, 06:47:46 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: menachem_m on September 03, 2014, 06:52:04 AM
If you try to a mismatched BA, and it fails, you will not lose your points.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Excalibur on September 03, 2014, 08:03:01 AM
Thanks can anyone confirm the second question, seems like a great idea...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on September 07, 2014, 09:58:17 AM
Since SPG personal can't be churned anymore do people actually pay the A/F for it?! Or just close and re-open? I hate the idea of paying an A/F, but I guess I don't want to lose loyalty (or something?).

I'm happy to find out at least biz card is churnable... after a 12 month wait from closing, is it?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on September 07, 2014, 10:03:38 AM
Since SPG personal can't be churned anymore do people actually pay the A/F for it?! Or just close and re-open? I hate the idea of paying an A/F, but I guess I don't want to lose loyalty (or something?).

I'm happy to find out at least biz card is churnable... after a 12 month wait from closing, is it?
People try for retention bonus
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on September 07, 2014, 10:09:41 AM
People try for retention bonus

OK so maybe i'll get 1k SPG thrown at me. Not even the "juicy" 3k, since I lived in Israel and don't use it much here due to forex. That doesn't exactly equal 65$ (that's only 1 AP!). You can still close after you get a retention bonus. Then what you/most do? You can re-open 12 months after closing - right? You just don't get bonus... which is OK cuz you saved in A/F right? or am I missing something...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on September 07, 2014, 12:04:55 PM
OK so maybe i'll get 1k SPG thrown at me. Not even the "juicy" 3k, since I lived in Israel and don't use it much here due to forex. That doesn't exactly equal 65$ (that's only 1 AP!). You can still close after you get a retention bonus. Then what you/most do? You can re-open 12 months after closing - right? You just don't get bonus... which is OK cuz you saved in A/F right? or am I missing something...
You could reopen it the next day too and avoid the AF for another year, but why do you want this card so badly? I've been asking around since AMEX churning news broke and it seems like the only way to collect points now is via spending (or churning the biz with the 12 month wait). The card itself doesn't get you very high status, so why do you want it if, as you said, you don't use it.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on September 07, 2014, 12:09:02 PM
OK so maybe i'll get 1k SPG thrown at me. Not even the "juicy" 3k, since I lived in Israel and don't use it much here due to forex. That doesn't exactly equal 65$ (that's only 1 AP!). You can still close after you get a retention bonus. Then what you/most do? You can re-open 12 months after closing - right? You just don't get bonus... which is OK cuz you saved in A/F right? or am I missing something...
I thought you're not supposed to use AMEX for AP?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on September 07, 2014, 12:14:46 PM
I thought you're not supposed to use AMEX for AP?
I do. For months now  
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on September 07, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
I do. For months now
It's in the AP wiki. Maybe someone should change that to a suggestion?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on September 07, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
It's in the AP wiki. Maybe someone should change that to a suggestion?
Agree. Though I'm no AP wiz, I have been getting 3k per month for a long time now with it .. I digress..
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Novo on September 07, 2014, 12:21:19 PM
It's in the AP wiki. Maybe someone should change that to a suggestion?
I don't see it there...
I've used Amex cards on AP w/o any problems.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: etech0 on September 07, 2014, 12:22:52 PM
I don't see it there...
my mistake - it's actually in the F/R wiki!
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg894452;topicseen#new
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Novo on September 07, 2014, 12:27:30 PM
my mistake - it's actually in the F/R wiki!
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8.msg894452;topicseen#new
I see. Only one report since Nov. 2010, I wouldn't be worried, and as seen there, if you change the amounts it shouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ushdadude on September 07, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
You could reopen it the next day too and avoid the AF for another year, but why do you want this card so badly? I've been asking around since AMEX churning news broke and it seems like the only way to collect points now is via spending (or churning the biz with the 12 month wait). The card itself doesn't get you very high status, so why do you want it if, as you said, you don't use it.
You can also ms for points
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Redbull3 on September 16, 2014, 12:43:45 PM
I thought you're not supposed to use AMEX for AP?

IMO one of the most overcautious misconceptions in this game
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: ranhan429 on September 17, 2014, 04:44:26 PM
IMO one of the most overcautious misconceptions in this game
+100
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: AJK on September 17, 2014, 11:33:36 PM
IMO one of the most overcautious misconceptions in this game

Well, if you say so...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on September 17, 2014, 11:36:01 PM
Well, if you say so...
1 last month. What's the worst that can happen?
Gonna use it for new Amex card threshold.

Wish me luck :)
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Chdayshc on September 18, 2014, 12:17:40 AM
Does anyone have a screen shot of the 30,000 point offer from June? I can't seem to find mine and did not receive the bonus on my business cards. Thank you
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on September 18, 2014, 12:06:41 PM
Wait hold up. I just read somewhere that there is a 2:1 point ratio when transferring from SPG to United. Any confirmation?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on September 18, 2014, 12:12:10 PM
Wait hold up. I just read somewhere that there is a 2:1 point ratio when transferring from SPG to United. Any confirmation?
Yes. 2 SPG = 1 United.
Why would you ever want to do that?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on September 18, 2014, 01:15:04 PM
Yes. 2 SPG = 1 United.
Why would you ever want to do that?
oh. I thought 1spg= 2 United. My bad i should have known...
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on September 19, 2014, 09:30:59 AM
Transferred spg to AA 10 days ago and it still didn't show up in my acct. What should I do? I called them and they said I'll get an email. Never got.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 19, 2014, 09:36:11 AM
Transferred spg to AA 10 days ago and it still didn't show up in my acct. What should I do? I called them and they said I'll get an email. Never got.
call AA. I had the same problem once and something went wrong on AA side and they got it fixed
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on September 21, 2014, 12:41:07 AM
What will happen if I transfer starwood into a FF account that does not have my name?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 21, 2014, 12:50:17 AM
What will happen if I transfer starwood into a FF account that does not have my name?

what airline? US Airways is known not to have to match
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on September 21, 2014, 12:50:39 AM
miles and more
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 21, 2014, 12:54:09 AM
I think I once read where it takes quite a while until it transfers through. The same place said the names dont have to match but I am not 100% clear. you can try it though
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on September 21, 2014, 12:55:50 AM
I think I once read where it takes quite a while until it transfers through. The same place said the names dont have to match but I am not 100% clear. you can try it though
Thanks. will anything happen to my account, if not successful?
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 21, 2014, 12:59:57 AM
Thanks. will anything happen to my account, if not successful?
no. I did it once and called spg and they credited me back the points with out a problem at all
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: rivkao on September 21, 2014, 01:00:45 AM
no. I did it once and called spg and they credited me back the points with out a problem at all
I assume it didn't transfer though.
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: Excalibur on September 21, 2014, 01:01:49 AM
miles and more

Please report back if it works
Title: Re: Starwood AMEX Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 21, 2014, 01:02:41 AM
I assume it didn't transfer though.
is that a question or statement?
Title: Re: Starwood