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Title: Things To Do In Israel Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 15, 2010, 11:35:57 PM
For some, this topic may be a given. For others, i think it could be really helpful.

I haven't been in Israel for quite a few years since my yeshiva days and am finally headed back for a vacation with the wife and a toddler.

We have pretty much everything set up except the "what to do, where to go" aspect.

If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, we'd love to hear them and im sure others on the forum would too.

From places to go, things to go, places to eat, places to avoid, lets hear em all...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on March 15, 2010, 11:40:46 PM
Check out the Trip Notes tab section on Dansdeals.com for some insights, although I never did get around to finishing up my notes from my last trip.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 16, 2010, 12:52:40 AM
Check out the Trip Notes tab section on Dansdeals.com for some insights, although I never did get around to finishing up my notes from my last trip.

I actually saw those already and found them quite useful. We already have the tickets, the car, and a place to stay. Im looking for tips on cities to visit, places to go see, restaurants worth a visit to etc...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: flyingace on March 16, 2010, 08:16:35 AM
Check out tripadvisor.com forums or google Israel itinerary.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on March 16, 2010, 02:07:54 PM
kosel/kotel
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 16, 2010, 02:11:53 PM
falafel
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on March 16, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
uzis falafel on yeshayahu. kever rachel, mearas hamachpela
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jack on March 16, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
segway tours are really cool
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on March 16, 2010, 11:02:25 PM
he has a toddler
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Deal Guy on March 18, 2010, 02:33:15 AM
Wanna see something nice, and have never been to the grand canyons, check out Mitzpeh Rimon in the South
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 18, 2010, 10:23:32 AM
Wanna see something nice, and have never been to the grand canyons, check out Mitzpeh Rimon in the South

Thanks! Ill look into it!
No one knows of some good restaurants other than uzis falafel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2010, 10:40:39 AM
These are some of my favorite dishes that I had in Israel:
-Philly Steak Sandwich at Cafe Rimon fleishig is ridiculously good (74NIS)
-"Homemade" burger at Burgers Bar. Don't miss the chimichuri, pesto, and chili sauces! (30NIS)
-Belgian waffles with caramel and white chocolate sauce and ice cream at Cafe Rimon milchig (25NIS)

In Tel Aviv "Alternative" was a milchig restaurant had some a prix fixe menu for dinner before 6pm that gave a Ben & Jerry's milkshake, soup, entree, and dessert for about 50NIS and was incredible.  I don't know if that is a permanent special of not. Their Creme Brulee was the best I ever had and is an absolute must!!!!

Caffe C in Tiverya is very good.
Felafel Tritto in Tzfat is cheap and delicious, stuffed with lots of felafel, fried eggplant, and french fries for 10NIS.

And as I only eat Cholov Yisroel and rarely get good Ice Cream in the US eating as much ice cream as possible in Israel in an obsession.
In Tiverya it was easier to find Cholov Yisroel Ben & Jerry's pints than it was elsewhere.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 18, 2010, 11:05:32 AM
These are some of my favorite dishes that I had in Israel:
-Philly Steak Sandwich at Cafe Rimon fleishig is ridiculously good (74NIS)
-"Homemade" burger at Burgers Bar. Don't miss the chimichuri, pesto, and chili sauces! (30NIS)
-Belgian waffles with caramel and white chocolate sauce and ice cream at Cafe Rimon milchig (25NIS)

In Tel Aviv "Alternative" was a milchig restaurant had some a prix fixe menu for dinner before 6pm that gave a Ben & Jerry's milkshake, soup, entree, and dessert for about 50NIS and was incredible.  I don't know if that is a permanent special of not. Their Creme Brulee was the best I ever had and is an absolute must!!!!

Caffe C in Tiverya is very good.
Felafel Tubal in Tzfat is cheap and delicious, stuffed with lots of felafel, fried eggplant, and french fries for 10NIS.

And as I only eat Cholov Yisroel and rarely get good Ice Cream in the US eating as much ice cream as possible in Israel in an obsession.
In Tiverya it was easier to find Cholov Yisroel Ben & Jerry's pints than it was elsewhere.

Wow, thanks! Ill be sure to check these all out :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on March 18, 2010, 11:48:43 AM
1. sheyan on ramban st (asian fusion)
2. keyara also on ramban
3. primavera in the leonardo
4. entrecote in har chotzvim

5. el gaucho in ramat gan
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jack6941 on March 18, 2010, 01:14:09 PM
primivera is in the sheraton hotel
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on March 18, 2010, 01:15:28 PM
Go to Papagayo in Talpiot
It has a mehadrin hechsher and is unreal. Their meats beat alot of american fancy restaurants.
For 179 you get all you can eat. They will serve you 7 diffrent type of meats (2 amazing steaks) after you tried all 7 you can tell them which ones you liked and have as much as you want. Its really amazing. Forget about el gaucho in Ramat Gan, this is the real deal!!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on March 18, 2010, 01:16:30 PM
primivera is in the sheraton hotel

The sheraton is history, to many people ate their with starwood points! ;-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2010, 01:33:06 PM
1. sheyan on ramban st (asian fusion)
2. keyara also on ramban
3. primavera in the leonardo
4. entrecote in har chotzvim

5. el gaucho in ramat gan

What do you like at each place?

Go to Papagayo in Talpiot
It has a mehadrin hechsher and is unreal. Their meats beat alot of american fancy restaurants.
For 179 you get all you can eat. They will serve you 7 diffrent type of meats (2 amazing steaks) after you tried all 7 you can tell them which ones you liked and have as much as you want. Its really amazing. Forget about el gaucho in Ramat Gan, this is the real deal!!!


Sounds awesome!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mikeoracle on March 18, 2010, 01:47:08 PM
We loved both the Dairy and Meat restaurants of Cafe Rimon. I dont remember the exact dishes but whatever we had we loved.

Also in Ben Yehuda you must go to the "FroYo" place I think it is actually called "Katzefet" Awesome ice cream of all kinds and you must have the FroYo which is a block of frozen yogurt ice cream plus a bar of all different frozen fruits, nuts, candy, chocolate, cookies etc... that you get to choose what you want inside and they blend it all with the ice cream! There are alot of imitations popping up in the states but I believe they are the one to beat. My favorite choice is Strawberry, Pineapple, Glazed pecans and chocolate.
They also have a guy making crepes out front where you can choose sauces and toppings to coat it with, it is fun watching him make them and they are also verrry good.

Sherry's in Tiveria is a great milchig place right near the boardwalk.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2010, 02:01:05 PM
We loved both the Dairy and Meat restaurants of Cafe Rimon. I dont remember the exact dishes but whatever we had we loved.

Also in Ben Yehuda you must go to the "FroYo" place I think it is actually called "Katzefet" Awesome ice cream of all kinds and you must have the FroYo which is a block of frozen yogurt ice cream plus a bar of all different frozen fruits, nuts, candy, chocolate, cookies etc... that you get to choose what you want inside and they blend it all with the ice cream! There are alot of imitations popping up in the states but I believe they are the one to beat. My favorite choice is Strawberry, Pineapple, Glazed pecans and chocolate.
They also have a guy making crepes out front where you can choose sauces and toppings to coat it with, it is fun watching him make them and they are also verrry good.

Sherry's in Tiveria is a great milchig place right near the boardwalk.
+1 on both Cafe Rimon's and Katzefet.
I got a froyo with fruits, white chocolate, dark chocolate, cookies, etc.
Plus you can then top it off at the self-serve station with chocolate syrup, caramel syrup, and sprinkles.

Sherry's in Tiverya was not bad, but Caffe C was significantly better.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on March 18, 2010, 02:43:13 PM
the canyons are actually near mitzpe rimon and r called machtesh rimon, machtesh hagadol & machtesh hakatan.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2010, 02:54:48 PM
Wanna see something nice, and have never been to the grand canyons, check out Mitzpeh Rimon in the South
Better yet, go to Arizona to see the real thing.
Skip the long drive to the canyons and disappointing Eilat beaches during precious vacation time in Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mikeoracle on March 18, 2010, 05:02:26 PM
One of the highlights of our trip for both me and my wife and that we look forward to doing again is Friday night at the kosel. As Dan said, I dont believe in wasting all that time to get to Eilat for the subpar beaches etc... But spending time strolling around the old city,  chilling at the Kosel, walking around Tzefat and Tiveria... you just dont get that anywhere else.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on March 18, 2010, 10:06:09 PM
the reason i didnt mention papagaio is that the its under the ou - israel which unfortunately, for a very long time was in a very sorry state. to the point where the ou in america had to send somebody to israel to see what on earth was happening. (i actually heard first hand from a retaurant owner about all the "shtick" the management was pulling while r' luban was visiting to pull the wool over his eyes.) a lot has been written about it , see jerusalem kosher news by yechiel spira. anyways there was a change in management but according to some in the know it might not be up to par just yet, so caveat emptor. speak to somebody who knows something in kashrus to advise you, not someone who says about hashgachos in eretz yisrael "its all politics"
One of the highlights of our trip for both me and my wife and that we look forward to doing again is Friday night at the kosel. As Dan said, I dont believe in wasting all that time to get to Eilat for the subpar beaches etc... But spending time strolling around the old city,  chilling at the Kosel, walking around Tzefat and Tiveria... you just dont get that anywhere else.
chilling at the kosel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mikeoracle on March 18, 2010, 10:56:13 PM
chilling at the kosel?
I know it sounds funny, but after davening etc... I loved sitting there in the evening on the benches in the back taking in the view of the kosel lit up and just schmoozing or "chilling"... there is just something about it ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 19, 2010, 09:17:44 AM
I know it sounds funny, but after davening etc... I loved sitting there in the evening on the benches in the back taking in the view of the kosel lit up and just schmoozing or "chilling"... there is just something about it ;D

Well if you are into chilling, try the Zupnick Mikva on Rechov Strauss, ideally erev yom kippur after chatsos.

I actually know a guy that went there, and lived to talk about it......
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Schneur on April 09, 2010, 05:14:05 PM
Amazing new place just outside Tel Aviv in Ramat Gan, it is called Art Meat.

Mehadrin hechsher and they specialize in meat and wine. It is in D mall on Jabotinsky
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 10, 2010, 07:27:04 PM
...the disadvantage being, that ramat gan is in the proximity of bne braq...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 10, 2010, 10:57:33 PM
Well if you are into chilling, try the Zupnick Mikva on Rechov Strauss, ideally erev yom kippur after chatsos.

I actually know a guy that went there, and lived to talk about it......
actually, upstairs is the only place in town to get a private mikva
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 12, 2010, 11:51:41 AM
What do you like at each place?
Sheyan- You must try their cocktails... Very different! Also their coconut pasta... delicious! And for dessert they have a chocolate-peanut butter mousse- Heaven.... As for entrees, they're all equally as good so I would recommend going with a few people and sampling a little of each....
             
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2010, 12:09:38 PM
Go to Papagayo in Talpiot
It has a mehadrin hechsher and is unreal. Their meats beat alot of american fancy restaurants.
For 179 you get all you can eat. They will serve you 7 diffrent type of meats (2 amazing steaks) after you tried all 7 you can tell them which ones you liked and have as much as you want. Its really amazing. Forget about el gaucho in Ramat Gan, this is the real deal!!!

Is it considered mehadrin?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 12, 2010, 12:33:21 PM
Sheyan- You must try their cocktails... Very different! Also their coconut pasta... delicious! And for dessert they have a chocolate-peanut butter mousse- Heaven.... As for entrees, they're all equally as good so I would recommend going with a few people and sampling a little of each....
             
my experience of the cocktails were quite the opposite. overpriced and not good. .....and i hope heaven is a lot better than a blah peanut butter mousse. i guesss to each their own.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2010, 12:39:23 PM
Sheyan was OK the one time I was there...nothing to go crazy about.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 12, 2010, 04:48:55 PM
Learned here something new.
Usa food just became a refference ?  (!)

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 13, 2010, 12:21:57 AM
what do they have in europe? (aside from paris)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on April 13, 2010, 01:27:44 AM
what do they have in europe? (aside from paris)

 Vienna has Milk & Honey a GREAT dairy restaurant

Rome has several Meat and Milhig places

 London has serveral Meat & Milhig as well

 ok not 5* but way better then simply some hot kosher food, really decent
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 13, 2010, 09:16:55 AM
are you really comparing these restaurants to whats available in ALL of america?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 13, 2010, 09:49:28 AM
I wasn't talking about the amount of places or heap size on the plate.
I was talking about the taste. You have in Paris, London, and Antwerp, some very good places.

Frankly speaking, I don't need the top of the top, I love fast food, but in the USA, the food tastes artificial (not sure how to explain it otherwise)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on April 13, 2010, 10:11:56 AM
are you really comparing these restaurants to whats available in ALL of america?

 Nope not at all, however if you remove those so called 5* Kosher restaurants, then these I mentioned I feel are alot beter then what youd have in the US

 as SuperFlyer put it so well, its not what you see or how nice the place looks but how does the food taste. As for Milk & Honey in Vienna , I happened to have liked their their Italian food much better then what I had in Rome, Pizza wise
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 13, 2010, 10:36:55 AM
I wasn't talking about the amount of places or heap size on the plate.
I was talking about the taste. You have in Paris, London, and Antwerp, some very good places.

Frankly speaking, I don't need the top of the top, I love fast food, but in the USA, the food tastes artificial (not sure how to explain it otherwise)
im wondering in how many restaurants youve eaten in the states to make such a blanket statement. im assuming you havent eaten in the fine dining establishments if you say it tastes artificial.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on April 13, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
Have you been to the new La Gondola or Shiloh's? I'm not sure how those don't qualify as fine dining.  Although granted I had one bad experience at Shiloh's but otherwise very positive.
And Tierra Sur is incredible, especially with the Costco certs!

 TS even w/o the Costco cards is suppose to be awesume and worth it. But Im usually alone out there so fast service is how I go. And the Fish Grill is the slowest I want to come across

 Ok havent done the new LaG and will admitt I didnt know they changed
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 20, 2010, 09:13:15 PM
As we were traveling with a toddler, we did more eating than anything else.

Some places we ate and things we did:

While staying at the CP, we walked to the kosel on shabbos afternoon and took the bus back for free after shabbos.
We got our food for shabbos from heimishe essen in rechavia which was a tad pricey but delicious food.

-We ate at cafe rimon-fleishig which was good as usual.
-We ate at a place on emek refaim called "cafe cafe" which apparently is a dairy chain restaurant. This one was under rabbanut yerushalayim mehadrin. It was pretty good and i would eat there again if we went back.
-We ate ate at primavera on yom hazikoron as it was the only restaurant we could find that was still open after 8 pm. The food was pretty good, however the servise was lousy as they were really packed and we were sitting right by the door.
-Korusin in Malcha mall is chinese food and had a nice business lunch (appetizer, soup and main) until 6 pm for only 49 NIS

In tiveriya:
-we ate dinner at a place called cuizina which did not impress us.
-The next night we ate dinner at a place 3 doors down from cuizina (towards the kinneret) which was much better and gave much nicer portions. I dont remember the name of it )might have been called besari or something like that) but it was the only restaurant there under the rubin hashgacha...
-For breakfast, we ate at sherrys one morning which was amazing.
-The next morning we ate at Cafe C and were disappointed after such a great meal at sherrys. We even went back to sherrys after breakfast the second day to get their outstanding ice coffee (they put a ball of ice cream in it and whipped cream-very good!)

Something we did that would be great for anyone with kids: Near bet she'an, there is a place called gan guru. It is basically a kangaroo park with lots of other stuff. You are able to walk right up to the kangaroos and feed them, pet them etc. My son had a great time with them. There were some other animals there too. Admission was pretty cheap and i had a 10% coupon from the tourist information place in tiveriya.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rm on April 21, 2010, 12:14:29 AM
I suggest visit a visit up north, Tzefas, Meron ect and down south, toward the Yam Hamelech, Masada and Ein Gedi. If you can stop at many Kevarim, depending on your direction, the Rambam, R Meir Baal Haness, Amukah, R Akiva, Rochel(R Akivas wife) ect. The Zoo is a nice trip in Yerushalayim. If you just want a regular lunch, you can go to Sams Bagels.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Deal Guy on April 21, 2010, 02:27:15 AM
As we were traveling with a toddler, we did more eating than anything else.

Some places we ate and things we did:

While staying at the CP, we walked to the kosel on shabbos afternoon and took the bus back for free after shabbos.
We got our food for shabbos from heimishe essen in rechavia which was a tad pricey but delicious food.

-We ate at cafe rimon-fleishig which was good as usual.
-We ate at a place on emek refaim called "cafe cafe" which apparently is a dairy chain restaurant. This one was under rabbanut yerushalayim mehadrin. It was pretty good and i would eat there again if we went back.
-We ate ate at primavera on yom hazikoron as it was the only restaurant we could find that was still open after 8 pm. The food was pretty good, however the servise was lousy as they were really packed and we were sitting right by the door.
-Korusin in Malcha mall is chinese food and had a nice business lunch (appetizer, soup and main) until 6 pm for only 49 NIS

In tiveriya:
-we ate dinner at a place called cuizina which did not impress us.
-The next night we ate dinner at a place 3 doors down from cuizina (towards the kinneret) which was much better and gave much nicer portions. I dont remember the name of it )might have been called besari or something like that) but it was the only restaurant there under the rubin hashgacha...
-For breakfast, we ate at sherrys one morning which was amazing.
-The next morning we ate at Cafe C and were disappointed after such a great meal at sherrys. We even went back to sherrys after breakfast the second day to get their outstanding ice coffee (they put a ball of ice cream in it and whipped cream-very good!)

Something we did that would be great for anyone with kids: Near bet she'an, there is a place called gan guru. It is basically a kangaroo park with lots of other stuff. You are able to walk right up to the kangaroos and feed them, pet them etc. My son had a great time with them. There were some other animals there too. Admission was pretty cheap and i had a 10% coupon from the tourist information place in tiveriya.

Welcome back!!
  Thanks for the reports. Where did you stay in Tiveria? What rates?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 21, 2010, 10:34:28 PM
Welcome back!!
  Thanks for the reports. Where did you stay in Tiveria? What rates?

When looking for hotels, they all seemed to have pretty bad reviews and pretty expensive. I did not feel like wasting 15,000 priority club points on the holiday inn which looked terrible. I figured if im paying $, i should at least get something nice.

I found an apartment on a website called diradirect.com
There are only 3 apartments listed there in tiveriya and all three are listed by the same person-Devora.
They are rented out by an agency in tiveriya (meaning she is not the owner).

We booked them very last minute so i ended up paying only 550 NIS per night (~$147) We stayed in the one called echad ha'am (which is the name of the street its on.) It was a little bit out off the beaten path and you need a car to get there. Here is a map of where it was: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Ahad+Ha%27Am+118,+Tiberias/Tverya,+Israel&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=%D7%90%D7%97%D7%93+%D7%94%D7%A2%D7%9D+118,+%D7%98%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94,+Israel&gl=us&ei=ua_PS-WCC5O4NoGl_MgG&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CAwQ8gEwAA

It was pretty nice inside. It was small. basically 1.5 bedrooms upstairs with a bathroom. Downstairs was a kitchen, living room, dining area, marpesset overlooking kinneret, washing machine with detergent etc. It was fully furnished. There was a bottle of wine on the table which i think was for us (even though we didnt drink it). There was coffee, sugar etc. Bag of bought-ice in the freezer (something i could not find for the life of me the week before) A/c. ample parking. about a 5-6 minute drive to where the restaurants are. About a 3 minute drive to the shtiblach. Unbelievable view of the kinneret. You can see from the map that its practically on the kinneret. The road between you and the kinneret is way down below as you are very high up.

If you are going with a baby, keep in mind that their cribs are not meant for a baby that can stand up already as it was kind of small.

Another option we saw was some tzimmers. We did not end up doing that because we wanted more than one room as we were with a toddler. This one: http://www.booking.com/hotel/il/view-10.en.html?aid=314059;label=tripad-il-45966;sid=f575abb1242ca47e829a9f1074801ffc;checkin=2010-04-13;checkout=2010-04-16 called "nof 10" had pretty good reviews on trip advisor and looks really nice. I found many other tzimmers looking around and for sure would have stayed in one had we been by ourselves. Keep in mind that nof 10 and some others are in a place called amirim which is strictly vegetarian and will not allow you to bring any sort of meat in.

On a separate note, another thing we did (more of a yerushalayim/ tel-aviv activity) was the safari/zoo in ramat gan. Entrance was 55 NIS a person but was worth it IMO. You basically drive in and can drive right up to the animals: zebras and lots of other animals. They say not to feed them, but ive seen many people do it anyways. If you open your windows and stick your hand out, the animals will come right up to your car windows sometimes. (i have a picture from a few years ago of a zebra eating a piece of matza out of my lap while im sitting in the car) There is a lion area you can drive through which is kind of dumb as the lions just sit way in the back behind an electric fence and dont move. Then you can park and in the middle is a zoo. The zoo is smaller than the biblical zoo, but was still enjoyable. To top it off, once you're in ramat gan you can hit up el gauchos which is like 10 minutes away.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Deal Guy on April 21, 2010, 11:29:26 PM
Nice reports!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: arih on April 28, 2010, 10:28:35 AM
Hi i just booked my trip to isreal for 2 weeks in august the last time i was there was 15 years ago
i just got married and going with my wife for our honeymoon and i would appriciate trip tips on where and what do do,eat,sleep,fun,etc.....                          thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 28, 2010, 10:40:04 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1885.0 (the search button is on the top right ;) )
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chachem Balaileh on May 06, 2010, 12:58:25 PM
Went 1 night to Art Meat was not impressed at all by far less then any american steakhouse.

Decks in teveria is a must.(kashrus at ur own risk)

Uzi's Falafel not impressed try falafel teimani on Neviem street amazing.



Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mikeoracle on May 06, 2010, 01:07:50 PM
1. sheyan on ramban st (asian fusion)
2. keyara also on ramban
3. primavera in the leonardo
4. entrecote in har chotzvim

5. el gaucho in ramat gan

Another vote for Keyara! we ate there and were very impressed, one of the nicest dining experiences I ever had. Top notch service, great food and wine selection. We were 6 people and had appetizers + main dishes which included a few steaks, wine and desserts for about 1100 or so Shekel.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 01:14:09 PM
the best restaurant in yerushalayim hands down is Arcadia near agripas. i dont eat there though, because its treif
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chachem Balaileh on May 06, 2010, 01:17:34 PM
the best restaurant in yerushalayim hands down is Arcadia near agripas. i dont eat there though, because its treif
U can always klap al cheit
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mikeoracle on May 06, 2010, 01:23:52 PM
the best restaurant in yerushalayim hands down is Arcadia near agripas. i dont eat there though, because its treif
How do you know it is good?? ??? :o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 01:35:35 PM
Went 1 night to Art Meat was not impressed at all by far less then any american steakhouse.

Decks in teveria is a must.(kashrus at ur own risk)

Uzi's Falafel not impressed try falafel teimani on Neviem street amazing.




Is Deck's mehadrin?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chachem Balaileh on May 06, 2010, 02:17:02 PM
Is Deck's mehadrin?
Dono for sure but i just followed the heimeshe crowds coming from miron lag b'omer & many many ultra heimishe families stopped there for supper.i guess they know more then me
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 03:38:49 PM
maybe they were all following the one am haoretz. all the restaurant websites i checked say its regular rabanut which is very bad. in all my years living here and the numerous times ive been to tiveriya not once did i hear of anyone i know that ate there. it just wasnt an option for a reliable place to eat in tiveria. frankly, i never even heard of the place until now and i pretty know of every place in israel (reliable of course) as im a restaurant kinda guy
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 03:41:48 PM
So what's with Papagaio?
I've asked a bunch of people, most say it's fine and any issues that there may have been have been corrected but others say OU mehadrin in Israel just isn't all that great.
The OU says that their Israel standards are just as strict as their standards in the US are.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 03:49:09 PM
i spoke to the new head of ou, i was satisfied with what he told me, and i ate there (he mentioned that r' belsky recently ate there too). if you go, you have to get the "brazillian table", its quite an experience. if you want i can email you a 10% off coupon.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 04:06:10 PM
i spoke to the new head of ou, i was satisfied with what he told me, and i ate there (he mentioned that r' belsky recently ate there too). if you go, you have to get the "brazillian table", its quite an experience. if you want i can email you a 10% off coupon.
Thanks for the info! What exactly did the OU head tell you?
Already printed up the 10% off!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 04:26:47 PM
that he basically turned it around. he learned at the yeshiva of south fallsburg, so we speak the same language
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 06, 2010, 06:41:17 PM
what's the best resturant with rav rubins hechsher?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 06:47:38 PM
maybe la casa on yaakov meir in geula. (some burgers bars are also rubin) as far as milchigs, i think lattecinni on ibn shaprut in rechavia is rubin
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 06:50:00 PM
What's a good breakfast place in J'lem like for belgian waffles or the like?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 06:51:16 PM
cafe rimon in town (NOT mamilla)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 07:04:04 PM
cafe rimon in town (NOT mamilla)
What's the difference between the 2?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
mamilla doesnt have a good hechsher, at least last time i looked into it
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 07:44:48 PM
mamilla doesnt have a good hechsher, at least last time i looked into it
Seems like all Cafe Rimon's are under "Badatz Rabanut Yerushalayim L'Mehadrin"
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 08:29:53 PM
rabanut mehadrin is not a good hashgacha. thats why rimon in town has additional hashgachos, such as chasam sofer p.t.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 08:38:16 PM
I don't think Ill ever understand the hashgocha situation in Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 08:49:57 PM
its not so complicated. just like in america there are hasgachos that arent good, such as if they rely on kulos that the mainstream dont hold of or if nobodys home. there are "hashgachos" here that is nothing more than a piece of paper and it says mehadrin etc. they are completely illegal and the government is constantly taking them to court. however the signs still hang in some restaurants. such as in the restaurant Gabriel. the sign hanging in there is from a completely bogus organization. there is no hashgacha on the restaurant. the problem is that americans come, and either they dont know hebrew or they know enough to read the word "mehadrin" and think its okay. another example is the popular "mitz pri" in geula. he has a "teudah" hanging in his store, but if you read it, it says that "we give a hasghacha on a certain brand of frozen fruit" he just made a copy and hung it in his store. he has no hashgacha at all. he might buy his fruit from the side of the road with no trumos and maasros taken off, arla etc, and nobody would ever know. he happens to be a rasha as i know people that went to his store and he tells them that this paper is a hashgacha, and when the person read it, he pointed out that wasnt the case, and the owner started hitting him. for more info see jerusalem kosher news by yechiel spira
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 08:53:13 PM
It's much more complicated than in the US.
I can go to LA, NYC, Chicago, Cleveland, etc. and eat in a restaurant knowing that it's kosher.
In Israel I don't have a clue which are acceptable and it seems that everyone tells you another opinion about each one.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 09:05:56 PM
in la theres a hashgacha from r' bukspan that nobody in the mainstream eats from due to the fact that he has some big kulos when it comed to basar shnisaleim min haayin. one of the establishments he certifies is the hot dog kiosk at the grove
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2010, 09:10:44 PM
in la theres a hashgacha from r' bukspan that nobody in the mainstream eats from due to the fact that he has some big kulos when it comed to basar shnisaleim min haayin. one of the establishments he certifies is the hot dog kiosk at the grove
Fair enough, but 99% of LA restaurants (including all the good ones) are under Kehilla/RCC.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 09:13:43 PM
there are a lot more jews and restaurants in israel, and not so much a controlling body
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 07, 2010, 01:10:14 AM
True, never thought of it. Maybe because in Israel, real treif is very hard to find?

I spoke to hechsher experts, and they told me that our local machsike hadass hechsher, as far as seriousness, beats all the big and famous ones by miles, such as badats, rubin, landau, and so on.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 07, 2010, 05:45:26 AM
maybe belz and ger, but not bedatz and landau, the premier hashgachos of the world
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Daniel on May 07, 2010, 07:43:16 AM
Dan, to make it easier, there are 4 hashgachos that almost everyone eats-

-Badatz Eida Hacharedis
-Shayris Yisroel
-Landau
-Rubin

Then there are some chareidi hashgachos that alot do eat and some don't-
-Agudas Yisroel
-Belz
-Chasam Sofer- Petech Tikva
-Chasam Sofer- Bnei Brak

Then you have Rabanut Mehadrin which is very complicated. Basically you have some that never eat it, some that always eat it, and others who will only eat after asking a rav who looked into the restaurant personally.

Most nice resturants are either rabanut mehadrin or agudas yisroel- very few nice badatz resturants.

There is also Machpud which even most non-sephardim eat as it has the reputation of a top hasgocho. For example, entracote is machpud and most people eat there.

ISRAEL IS MORE COMPLICATED 4 SURE
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 07, 2010, 09:14:10 AM
not everyone eats sheairis & landau. I only ate badatz & rubin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Daniel on May 07, 2010, 09:43:16 AM
You have to be pretty brisker not to eat landau and shearis. Of course there are people who only eat badats EC, but I was speaking about almost everyone.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 07, 2010, 10:16:25 AM
that you dont eat shearis I understand, but Landau is probably the best unbiased hechsher with rubin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 07, 2010, 11:34:23 AM
I don't think getting Political is what I'm looking to do, but suffice it to say that, yes, I'm pretty "briskish"(my alma matter) and that shearis I didn't eat for valid (imho) kashrus concerns.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 07, 2010, 11:37:21 AM
I don't think getting Political is what I'm looking to do, but suffice it to say that, yes, I'm pretty "briskish"(my alma matter) and that shearis I didn't eat for valid (imho) kashrus concerns.

yes, I get and agree to you, and somehow your username didnt make me think you were in a monastery or so, however Landau is probably the best hechsher around.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: me on May 07, 2010, 03:17:30 PM
Most lubavitchers wouldnt eat sheairis... Some wouldnt eat belz.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 08, 2010, 02:52:40 PM
the only reason someone wouldnt eat landau is purely political, as far as hashgachos go its one of the best. the reason why someone wouldnt eat shearis is because in the past they had some issues although they might have righted the ship. the reason why someone wouldnt eat belz, however, is because its not a good hashgacha.
if yehivaman would be a brisker, he certainly would not eat rubin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: damaxer91 on May 08, 2010, 04:41:51 PM
the only reason someone wouldnt eat landau is purely political, as far as hashgachos go its one of the best. the reason why someone wouldnt eat shearis is because in the past they had some issues although they might have righted the ship. the reason why someone wouldnt eat belz, however, is because its not a good hashgacha.
if yehivaman would be a brisker, he certainly would not eat rubin.

I wouldn't say that "Belz is not a good hashgacha". Most people outside of Brisker circles would probably disagree
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 08, 2010, 05:34:58 PM
personally, what most people agree to or not, is not really relevant to me. if you go with that approach, apparently decks in tiveria is good too, although last i checked they dont even have a hashgacha. id like to know what people in kashrus think

on a side note, i got your message. where can i bring the book?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 08, 2010, 05:43:32 PM
To cut a long story short: for people like me, who are basically neutral, in the sense that I'm not chassidish, litvish, etc, and look strictly at the feedback from mashgichim, history, and so on, and the political aspect has no value for me, I conclude the following:badats, rubin, landau, and yes belz too, are good hechsherim (allthough politics will want to drag down belz and landau), and she'eris is not a very good hechsher (although politics want you to believe it is; they had major "strops" in the past).
For a hechsher to function well you need lots of syata dishmaya, so hechsherim ike landau, where they removed once a hechsher of a butcher that used fool language, promotes siyata dishmaya, however, she'eris who was built to try to eradicate other hechsherim, has obviously less syata dishmaya and its only natural that so many mishaps happened there.
As a result, I would by far prefer rabanut yerusholayim mehadrin over she'eris.

For those who are going to say:"... but the gedeeylim signed for she'eris", I have the following to say:lots of things that the gedoylim sign (or supposedly approve off) is basicly the gaboims views imposed on the godol.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 08, 2010, 05:49:12 PM
super, instead of cutting the story short, youre unfortunately distorting it. belz was started because the chassidus wanted to get in on the game and unfortunately dont know the fine details of kashrus and what goes in to a hasgacha. as far as shearis i dont care how it started, the bottom line is that apparently today the food they certify is kosher and thats all i care about. rabbanut mehadrin used to be a fine hashgacha until a mizrachi guy took over the helm and instituted numerous kulos which for the most part made the hashgacga irrelevant today
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 08, 2010, 10:11:38 PM
See, Israeli hashgocha is totally confusing for Americans!!!!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 01:40:46 AM
Belz is a huge chassidus, and probably one of the finest today. Why shouldn't they have a hechser of themselves. They had no idea how to do it seems a bit far fetched, as there are halochos and they are there for everyone.

She'eris was was made to 'destroy' the others, and that's why so many 'mistakes' happened there.

About rabanut mehadrin, I didn't know about the change of events, and will check it out. Anyone on this forum knows more about it?

To Dan: usa aren't so easy. When I asked an american if OU meat was ok, he answered me, depend where it comes from...
Cholov akum not being an issue by a lot of people is easier indeed, but not for non-us people, as they mosty don't go easy about it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 09, 2010, 01:50:08 AM
the point youre missing is that there is a lot more going into hashgacha than just knowing how to pasken a halacha
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Crazy tools on May 09, 2010, 01:52:27 AM
I read the last few posts for the first time, I thought I was on Vos Iz Neis.com !! ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on May 09, 2010, 03:43:42 AM
Just tried Marvad Haksamim (Magic Carpet) last week. In my five years living here I must say it was probably my best dining out experience. The food was excellent (try the red kube soup and mag'dara), service was attentive and quick (the five of us were out in just over an hour) and the prices reasonable (600 shek including tip and we were stuffed). It's on Emek Refaim, the hechsher is Rav Machpud (one of the better ones around) and if you go to www.rest.co.il/marvad (http://www.rest.co.il/marvad) you can see some of their food along with their menu, and a coupon for a free desert. It doesn't match the ambiance of Keyara, but overall it wins hands down.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 04:21:05 AM
There is knowing the halocho, being a yirai shomayim, and not involving politics or finances is what counts.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 09, 2010, 08:09:58 AM
SuperFlyer, that is exactly what I meant when I said that I don't want to get political, because your post is really devoid of real facts & just saying what you want to be true & presenting it as fact. Posters should not be the ones deciding who has "siyata dishmaya" or not. The beef with belz is an old one, that they opened up they're hechsher without any thought to the practical aspects of how a hechsher runs in the 21st century. I won't even go into your sheairis "naarishkeitin".

& to the guy who called me out on my brisker credentials for eating R Rubin? I dare you to ask the next 10 people who learn/learnt in brisk. you will see.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 08:34:09 AM
I saw brisk comments, but didn't know whether true. But as you agree yourself to it, the discussion ends here, as being a brisker itself makes you(r opinion) biased.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 08:42:03 AM
To add to your wifes income (if married) you might want to consider writing a book. I even thought already of a title.

Acting in a Brisk manner.
Balancing between brisk and the internet.
By yeshivamamal


Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 09, 2010, 09:13:59 AM
& to the guy who called me out on my brisker credentials for eating R Rubin? I dare you to ask the next 10 people who learn/learnt in brisk. you will see.
that would be me, and obviously there is a difference between someone who learned in brisk and someone who is as you say "pretty briskish". someone who is "briskish" i.e. a brisker or someone that goes in that derech hachaim wouldnt get close to rubin with a ten foot pole. While before i thought you probably did learn in brisk, i now have my doubts, if you couldnt make that distinction.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Crazy tools on May 09, 2010, 09:44:14 AM
pretty good we have a very chosheva oilam on this site, they come from "the most prestigios yeshivos" 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 10:01:06 AM
Ponovez too......
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 09, 2010, 01:00:47 PM
Moish, just so you know, being a brisker does not mean following the crowd that calls themselves briskers. How many Chumash Shiurs did(n't) you go to that you don't understand that the core principle of brisk is Emes? If you just want to follow the crowd to call yourself a brisker, you wouldn't eat from eidah either! but you do, which is funny, because a bit of informed research will have you know that Rubin is better than eidah, just that thr eidah is running a more effective pr machine. look at what's going on now in geula! I recently returned to visit and all the stores that R Rubin wouldn't certify when I was a bochur, all have eidah chareidis now. Its possible that Rav Moishe Halberstams passing was the cause of this because his brother, Tchokover rov, whom is in charge of the kashrus division of eidah chareidis, wouldn't do anything without his approval. now he's gone...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 01:08:00 PM
I sense some telepathic forces here...

One can see whether the other understood a chumash shiur?

YeshivaMammal you are freaking us out here...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 01:14:08 PM
On a more tachlesdige note.

I spoke to one of the members before, and it seemed like a good idea for people referring a restaurant, to include the best gps input to get them there (if possible), or a parking advice, if its a problem over there.

The official address of a resto, is sometimes a tiny street which besides to have a dead end, its also a one way the wrong direction, and you reversing come abruptly to a halt after a BAAM, followed by cursing in hebrew at 200mph.
The cheap resto just became an expensive outing.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 09, 2010, 01:31:44 PM
On a more tachlesdige note.

I spoke to one of the members before, and it seemed like a good idea for people referring a restaurant, to include the best gps input to get them there (if possible), or a parking advice, if its a problem over there.

The official address of a resto, is sometimes a tiny street which besides to have a dead end, its also a one way the wrong direction, and you reversing come abruptly to a halt after a BAAM, followed by cursing in hebrew at 200mph.
The cheap resto just became an expensive outing.

 well just think of all the Miles you just earned OK an American just earned. Instead of ahving the CC deal with the rental company simply have the rental company charge your CC for the damages and the CC repay you
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 01:38:40 PM
Meaning, a total loss for a bmw 7 series, would mean a return tix in first from the usa to tlv?   ;-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 09, 2010, 01:46:18 PM
Meaning, a total loss for a bmw 7 series, would mean a return tix in first from the usa to tlv?   ;-)

 no a BMW7 means a tkt straight to jail as no CC CDW will cover such a car, and till they actually get the $$ out of You they probably will get a Block on you leaving the Country
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 01:51:46 PM
Jail regency?

My amex never set a limit to which car it would cover.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 09, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
Jail regency?

My amex never set a limit to which car it would cover.

 your Amex wont cover you in Israel

 keep it up and we will have to change your handle to hachom
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 02:12:06 PM
The wmc only covers up to a certain level car?
If yes, what's the level?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 09, 2010, 02:16:18 PM
The wmc only covers up to a certain level car?
If yes, what's the level?

 not so much a certain type of car but I think its $25k is the max

 it does exclude the very expensive types.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 09, 2010, 02:54:58 PM
i think that they dont cover specialty vehicles
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 02:58:13 PM
$25k? But in israel with a mazda3 you passed it already, no?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Crazy tools on May 09, 2010, 03:01:17 PM
you meant a maazdaa shalosh??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 09, 2010, 03:02:41 PM
$25k? But in israel with a mazda3 you passed it already, no?

 true but I dont think they check to see what the retail price is over there but know what it is over here, could very well be if the car is completely totaled then it might be a problem, but the max I had as Damage was some $3500 and it was paid w/o any questions. Some kid decdied to do an illegal U-turn on Rehov Aza and I broadsided him, car still worked and changed it the next day
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2010, 03:02:50 PM
not so much a certain type of car but I think its $25k is the max

 it does exclude the very expensive types.
I've seen $50K on almost all my cards.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Deal Guy on May 09, 2010, 03:05:31 PM
true but I dont think they check to see what the retail price is over there but know what it is over here, could very well be if the car is completely totaled then it might be a problem, but the max I had as Damage was some $3500 and it was paid w/o any questions. Some kid decdied to do an illegal U-turn on Rehov Aza and I broadsided him, car still worked and changed it the next day

But then, why would you need 3.5k either? If it was his fault, shouldn't his insurance cover your damage?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 21, 2010, 06:36:53 AM
http://yudelsreport.blogspot.com/2010/05/probing-kashrut-pitfalls-in-jerusalem.html
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 21, 2010, 07:37:00 AM
yudel shain is an extreme kashrus alarmist. discuss all kashrus concerns with your local rabbi, don't make decisions based on what he posts on his site...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 21, 2010, 07:39:20 AM
its actually an interview between the jewish press and yechiel spira. if you want ill find the jewish press link. you obviously didnt read it if youre saying that theres something to ask a rabbi about. i cant imagine any rabbi saying its ok to eat something w/o a hechsher
here is the original article http://www.jewishpress.com/pageroute.do/43783
in the future please read something before making a ridiculous comment. its a great disservice.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 21, 2010, 02:14:53 PM
I didn't read what you linked to, i'm just saying that Yudel shain, whose site was originally the link, is not at all someone to rely on. just visit http://yudelsmistake.blogspot.com/ and see where a guy in a week or so, caught him on so many inconsistencies. I dont think thats ridiculous...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 22, 2010, 01:53:08 PM
whats ridiculous is commenting on my post w/o reading the link first. if you would have, you would have noticed that it has nothing to do with shain at all. by making the comment that you made, it would turn people off from reading, thus losing valuable information. you can start a different thread about shain if you want, but my post had absolutely nothing to do with him. are you not getting this, can i be any more clear?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 22, 2010, 05:47:40 PM
Yeshivaman, moish is right, get used to it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 23, 2010, 12:43:16 AM
Firstly I'd like to thank SuperFlyer for that wonderful bit of insight that he added to the conversation. Second of all, Moish, I really don't get why you think that not reading a link that sends me to an irresponsible website is wrong. True, you were linking to a report that he posted that someone else filed, but to say that it is incumbent on me to read his site to find that out is just wrong.

In short, I am sorry that I dismissed what you posted because of the knowledge I (& anyone else in lakewood for that matter) have about Yudel Shain, when in truth it wasn't Yudels report. I hope you can forgive me, & that next time, you don't use yudels site as a source.

I hope that can end this (unless, of course, SuperFlyer has a brilliant brisker joke or two to add).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 23, 2010, 01:49:20 AM
Thanks for adding that you are from lakewood. At least they all seem grouped in 1 area.

I hope I'm wrong, but everyone I dealt with -money wise- from lakewood in the meantime, send chills down my spine.

You did however state:"I'm sorry..." In your previous post, so I guess saying moish wasn't so wrong when his link just pointed to an article that wasn't this yudels whatshisface.

On another note: Sad  to see that a real brisker (+ as someone that chapped the chumash shiur,as you defined yourself elsewhere in the forum) has internet.

I suppose that real briskers are elevated above the aveiros that lurk on the net.

If you have some jokes about briskers, I'd be thankful if you posted them.

Ps: you know what the the roshe tayvos of F R U M are?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yeshivaman on May 23, 2010, 02:12:58 AM
what sort of issues do you have? as kindergarten teachers tend to say, "if you have nothing intelligent to say, don't say it!"
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 23, 2010, 02:14:09 AM
My apologies, to all sincere, nice people of Lakewood that I have not discovered yet.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 23, 2010, 02:16:18 AM
Kindergarden teachers? If its not r' chaim, its no good?
I'm sorry, its just pirkei ovois (not brisk).

I think what I wrote is pretty clear.

Still waiting for those jokes to come.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 23, 2010, 02:18:00 AM
And find out about F R U M.

If you chap the answer, you will chap my love for people like you.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 23, 2010, 02:39:39 AM
As to yeshivamammals final wish. Let's return to the topic.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 26, 2010, 01:26:09 AM
Hi,

Heading to Israel with group of ppl and we need a good lunch and dinner restaurant in the north. Probably Lunch in Tsfat and Dinner in Tverya... (with a small chance of the opposite...)

Anyone familiar with decks on the kinneret, is it good? how about tsfat? we will have 10 people, and they are looking for good quality...

Thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 26, 2010, 01:30:22 AM
Decks is only rabanut, are you OK with that?

We liked Cafe C in Teverya, but it was nothing fancy.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 26, 2010, 01:30:32 AM
decks is supposed to be good, but do you keep kosher? theres a good dairy place called cherry on the boardwalk
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 26, 2010, 01:32:35 AM
 since I wont be the driver Id say apx 45 mins to Zefat. 1/2 that if I was the driver
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 26, 2010, 03:01:58 AM
My bad, I was under the impression that Decks was mehadrin as a certain tour operator offered it to me.... (knowing that's what we require)

So can anyone help with good restaurants in tsefat and jerusalem?

Jerusalem we need a nice fleishig place for a birthday celebration where we can sit for a long time has to have alcohol license... somewhat on the quiet side (not the big ben yehudas where you feel like you're in the shuk... unless they have party rooms)

Also need a nice milchig place in Jerusalem for motzei shabbos.. any other ideas appreciated...

Any ideas for a friday afternoon? we come back from chevron 2pm.. and I doubt chevron has anything decent... I was thinking maybe the Leonardo Plaza - sheraton restaurant would still be open... nayone know if it's decent?

This is all for 10-12 people..
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 26, 2010, 03:07:21 AM
There is nothing fancy in Tiverya or Tzfat that's mehadrin as far as I know.

Chevron has a bad pizza shop.  We had calzones last year and all got sick from them...stick with the ice cream bars from there.  I'm not sure what's open Friday afternoon.

I would recommend the Brazilian Table at Papagaio for a nice, slow, quiet, all you can eat Brazilian style fleishig meal with alcohol in J'lem.  If you get there before (even just a minute before) peak time it's only 119, afterwards it's 169.

Cafe Rimon is good milchig in J'lem at Mamilla or Ben Yehuda.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 26, 2010, 03:13:48 AM
Thanks dan.. Are the meat dishes very different from regular grill food?

Also we are not so worried about the cost, most important in Jerusalem is ambiance and good food... where we can sit for a long time.. not sure if buffet would be the way to go for the birthday..
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 26, 2010, 03:15:53 AM
Thanks dan.. Are the meat dishes very different from regular grill food?

Also we are not so worried about the cost, most important in Jerusalem is ambiance and good food... where we can sit for a long time.. not sure if buffet would be the way to go for the birthday..
No, no, no...Papagaio is far from a buffet!  Hopefully someone will explain it in detail as I'm turning in for the night.
http://www.papagaio.co.il/?categoryId=40825&itemId=94349
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 26, 2010, 06:10:06 AM
stay away from cafe rimon mamilla and stick with the one in town. (kashrus reasons)  also they probably have the most flexible hours. another milchig option is agas vetapuach in kikar safra.  i personally was quite underwhelmed everytime i ate at the plazas restaurant
the brazillian table is basically, they start you off with bread, various salads and wings, then throughout the evening, as long as you have the green side of this toy showing, they come to you and deposit on your plate many different types of meat/chicken, in around 5-10 minute intervals, alternating between the various dishes. you can also tell them your preferences and theyll stick to only that. as i remember the diiferent dishes were 1. chicken liver 2. entrecote steak carved tableside from a spit 3. entrecote pieces marinated in a beer sauce 3. pargiyot (spring chicken) 4.  regular chicken carved tableside 5. kabob 6. ribs stew 7. regular ribs    it think thats it.  so you could basically could sit for hours. if you need a break, simply turn the toy to show the red side.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 26, 2010, 09:41:26 AM
Another milchig restaurant in J'lem is Muscat on Kanfei Nesharim. They have a party room upstairs, and their food is good...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: damaxer91 on May 26, 2010, 10:18:49 AM

Any ideas for a friday afternoon? we come back from chevron 2pm.. and I doubt chevron has anything decent... I was thinking maybe the Leonardo Plaza - sheraton restaurant would still be open... nayone know if it's decent?

This is all for 10-12 people..

Primavera in the Plaza is actually not open for lunch anymore, though they offer a limited menu in the lobby
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 26, 2010, 11:50:05 AM
damaxer, do you like primavera? after my last experience with them i basically swore them off
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on May 26, 2010, 12:29:57 PM
Muscat? Its probably one of the ...... i have ever been to. Avoid. But al tam vereach en lehidvakeach, maybe you will like it.
Papagaio is a must do! I have not seen any discount on the brazilian table before peek time and when is peek time?
Hess is also a very good meaty restaurant as well as rimon fleishig.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 26, 2010, 12:34:54 PM
Muscat? Its probably one of the ...... i have ever been to. Avoid. But al tam vereach en lehidvakeach, maybe you will like it.
Papagaio is a must do! I have not seen any discount on the brazilian table before peek time and when is peek time?
Hess is also a very good meaty restaurant as well as rimon fleishig.
Peak time starts at either 5pm or 6pm...looong story!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 26, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
whats the ambiance in the Brazilian place like? With 12 guys are we better booking a "party" with a menu or would you say this all you can eat meat thing would be better? we will not make it to the early think... as we would go there after kotel tour so close to 10pm for 2 hours....

If anyone has any other recommendations please let me know. Seems like no one can agree on milchig... we need one more very good fleishig place then (since tverya is out..) any other suggestions? (can't be hole in wall, need to impress some not yet kosher keeping people...)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 26, 2010, 03:38:53 PM
maybe red heifer for meat. i dont know of anybody that went to cafe rimon milchig in town and didnt enjoy
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 26, 2010, 04:44:02 PM
 an Excellent Milchig/Fish place is Taverna located #2 Noami St tel# 02-671-9796 off Derech Hevron pull into the lot

 I dont know if its Mehadrian but I know a # of frum groups that ate there

 dont know about Fri afternoon but a GREAT place with GREAT views into the Hils and at Dusk a Definite WOW on the views , not cheap
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 26, 2010, 06:45:59 PM
Thanks for the suggestion.. seems like they're closed motzei shabbos though... so that won't do.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 30, 2010, 01:40:28 PM
Okay, Papagaio is booked... costing us 220 shekel a head... (we can't make it early, and this includes entrees, dessert wine and beer...) sounds actually pretty good...

Seems like the consensus is that Rimon in Ben Yehuda is the best milchig option, so I'll go there for motzei shabbos..

Now I still need one more fleshig good one for the last night (it'll have to be something decent as Papagaio sounds great and don't want to disappoint after that)...

Also which falafal/shawarma places are good mehadrin on and around ben yehuda?  Is Moshiko a good hechsher?

How about Shawarma/Falafel in Tveriya and tsfat?

Thanks again!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 30, 2010, 01:46:25 PM
in tiverya theres a shwarma place under rubin on the tayelet next door to cherry. in jerusalem you have entrecote in har chotzvim, red heifer, or maybe rimon meat which i think is delicious. theres also a sushi place on emek refaim called taiku. make sure you print out a 10% off coupon for papagaio.    could you elaborate on the 220 rate you got there?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 30, 2010, 03:58:28 PM
Moish, which of the ones you mentioned would you give best marks? as far as nice surroundings, good food... (pref centrally located... were al the leonardo plaza..)

I called Papagaio asked for an event pricing (we're 13ppl) and they said for an additional 50 shek they through in wine, beer, drinks and I think desserts and entrees... so it's the complete meal... sound great! Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 30, 2010, 05:02:02 PM
with red heifer i havent eaten there in almost 2 years. rimon meat has good food and price but the ambiance is lacking. youre best bet is across the street from the plaza on ramban. its called keyara. it has good food and nice ambiance. it's probably what youre looking for as its the closest youll get to an american style restaurant, and location wise its great. theres also a 10% off coupon there.  beware of falling into the plazas trap and eating in primavera.  
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 30, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
Keyara seems lovely... you're right about the setting, looks really good.

I'm just a little concerned with portion size.... I know it's not cheap (seems like dinner will run 200-250 a head) but if it's mediocre portions, that might not do...

Have you tried? Ideally we would want to order general serving plates, so we can just sit and enjoy... (not each one for themselves..) 

I'll try calling them tomorrow
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 30, 2010, 05:22:03 PM
ive eaten there many times and never left hungry
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: youG on May 30, 2010, 06:16:54 PM
Keyara is really good and nice another place with a nice sized party room and cheaper with great food as well would be RYU on emek! A great nice relaxed ambiance dairy place I would say is bait ticho it's really good and don't think many people know about it so it's usually quiet and motsai shabbat they have live music nothin crazy just a keyboard and sax! Very relaxing and nice outdoor garden patio
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 30, 2010, 06:19:08 PM
who still eats rabbanut mehadrin?!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 30, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
You advised me against it, so I stopped.
However -correct me if I'm wrong- one of the taanis against it, was that so many places were suddenly given a hechsher, which is a valid point.
I must say that I noticed in tachana hamerkazit in yeru, quit a lot of posters promoting rabanut mehadrin restaurants, but when I got there, the mehadrin part wasn't there. Upon me asking them, they said that it was recently removed. And that at some 3 places, in a small area...
Not proving anything, just saying.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: elikay on May 30, 2010, 06:57:19 PM
Rabbanut mehadrin has its ups and downs and its very hard to know when and what and where you can rely on it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2010, 09:24:31 PM
Rimon meat makes the best steak sandwich on earth with their Philly Steak Sandwich, but it was closed for renovations when I was just there.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: steve2 on May 31, 2010, 02:13:27 AM
who still eats rabbanut mehadrin?!

 I do as well as some Rosh Kollels I know
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 31, 2010, 06:38:46 AM
the same ones that just walked on har habayis?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: youG on May 31, 2010, 07:30:38 AM
I also eat it and I spoke to a few mashgichim I know and they told me it's all politics that cause rumours that it's good or not!! I'm not trying to convince anyone. Just statin my opinion
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 31, 2010, 07:33:26 AM
anybody in kashrus in israel will explain to you that it has nothing to do with politics, rather a new person took over and instituted many kulos which most people do not agree with. unfortunately you were misinformed
heres the problem, how can you have an opinion on something without knowing the facts?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: damaxer91 on May 31, 2010, 07:35:14 AM
who still eats rabbanut mehadrin?!

I think that you need to get out of Sorotzkin more often :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 31, 2010, 07:36:55 AM
are the people in arzei still eating at gabriels?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: damaxer91 on May 31, 2010, 07:56:02 AM
are the people in arzei still eating at gabriels?

lol. Funny you mention it. The person who was giving out a heter to eat there lives in your neighborhood. I won't go further than that
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 31, 2010, 08:01:17 AM
it has nothing to do with the neighborhood you live in
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on May 31, 2010, 02:24:23 PM
1. Any reliable rav (including on sorotzkin) will tell you that there are many reliable Rabinute Mehadrin Restaurants. All of the ones in Malcha are good (there's a really good - taste wise - Pizza Hut and KFC) and the ones in Center 1 are also ok. Basically it depends on the mashgiach.

2. I've heard that Rimon meat has been closed for the past few weeks, and that the milk will also be closed for a week sometime soon. Might be a good idea to check up on that before you go.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 31, 2010, 03:12:35 PM
mention one rav that would say that. a good mashgiach cant help if the products are no good. you seem to be a bit clueless.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on May 31, 2010, 03:47:29 PM
Dozens. I would strongly advise staying away from any rav that says Rabinute Mehadrin isn't good in Center1 or Malcha. They are either mis-informed, or severely delusional. (both of which are becoming bigger problems these days.)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 31, 2010, 03:50:41 PM
one would suffice
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: youG on June 02, 2010, 08:28:26 AM
WOW!! Reading this topic made me really Dizzy!!!! I didn't realize this was such an esteemed frum crowd and I don't think I'll eat anything out of my house after this however maybe since I'm a poshiter Mirer Talmud the briskers will hold me as irreligious and I can go back to enjoying my rabanut mehadrin meals!! And the best part about them is you don't have a million yeshiva yeshivish guys makin so much noise and nickel and diming them not that they're wrong but when I go out with my wife I prefer the quieter places!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on June 02, 2010, 10:54:38 AM
immature idiot
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MarkS on June 02, 2010, 01:56:23 PM

As we were traveling with a toddler, we did more eating than anything else.

Some places we ate and things we did:

While staying at the CP, we walked to the kosel on shabbos afternoon and took the bus back for free after shabbos.


Just for the record, I believe the 'free busses after Shabbos' are not free and are supposed to be paid up during the following week!
Correct me if I am wrong.
If thats true, you have to pay them back especially considering thats it's owned by Yidden.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 02, 2010, 02:58:24 PM
Oh, this bus thing is still going on?
10 years ago it was already discussed.

But I guess the psak is still the same: "you are supposed to be unsure about it "
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: batzelda1 on June 04, 2010, 09:52:11 AM
Any tips for anniversary in Jerusalem?  1868 or Canella?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on June 04, 2010, 10:03:57 AM
i think for a romantic dinner, Arcadia is perfect
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on June 06, 2010, 02:47:52 PM
Just for the record, I believe the 'free busses after Shabbos' are not free and are supposed to be paid up during the following week!
Correct me if I am wrong.
If thats true, you have to pay them back especially considering thats it's owned by Yidden.
You're right. I've seen the letters from Egged.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 06, 2010, 02:48:08 PM
Let's see how useful this forum is.. I'm runnning late and had to can el at keyara what other good meat restaurant are open late till 12 or so

i need an answer within the hour
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on June 06, 2010, 02:53:04 PM
cafe rimon dairy. taiku (meat and sushi) emek refaim 31 (02) 566-5262  open till 11
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 06, 2010, 02:59:18 PM
I don't think 11 will do I need 12 thanks anyway

and we need meat restaurant Rimon meat seems to be closed
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2010, 03:00:52 PM
When does Sheyan close?
I recall it being open fairly late.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on June 06, 2010, 03:05:09 PM
why dont you just go do rimon dairy? (even if youve been there already)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 06, 2010, 03:07:27 PM
My group doesn't go for dairy...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on June 06, 2010, 03:08:36 PM
Marvad Haksamim (fleishig place), as I posted elsewhere. It's on emek Refaim.  I'm not sure of the hours. It was fantastic!!! (R'Machpud hechsher)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on June 06, 2010, 03:56:44 PM
i think for a romantic dinner, Arcadia is perfect
not kosher though
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WAM on July 28, 2010, 09:11:35 AM
Just for the record, I believe the 'free busses after Shabbos' are not free and are supposed to be paid up during the following week!
Correct me if I am wrong.
If thats true, you have to pay them back especially considering thats it's owned by Yidden.
You're right. I've seen the letters from Egged.
There is a very clear letter (in Hebrew) on the bus stop post outside the Kosel plaza, stating that the buses are NOT free on Motzai Shabbos, and that you may go on if you don't have money and pay back on Sunday.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on August 10, 2010, 09:49:46 AM
Although I've been promoting Marvad Haksamim (search this post), I  recently observed some kashrus problems there (w/dealer) and have not yet received a satisfactory response from the rabbi in charge (read: no response)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on August 10, 2010, 04:39:59 PM
care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on August 17, 2010, 07:29:08 AM
one example: the waitress was witnessed going to a rabbanut (non-mehadrin) restaurant next door and bringing back food and serving it. the mashgiach when questioned said 'oh, good point. I should really be more careful'. The head mashgiach when i called him said he'd get back to me, when he didn't (after a week or so) i called him and he denied that a restaurant even exists next door...need i say more?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yordai Dooma on August 17, 2010, 10:48:10 AM
one example: the waitress was witnessed going to a rabbanut (non-mehadrin) restaurant next door and bringing back food and serving it. the mashgiach when questioned said 'oh, good point. I should really be more careful'. The head mashgiach when i called him said he'd get back to me, when he didn't (after a week or so) i called him and he denied that a restaurant even exists next door...need i say more?
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on August 17, 2010, 11:13:49 AM
tell yechiel spira from jerusalem kosher news
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 17, 2010, 11:16:57 AM
tell yechiel spira from jerusalem kosher news

Thats one heck of a coupon code !
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on August 17, 2010, 11:22:21 AM
???????
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 17, 2010, 12:24:30 PM
???????

Go do some "kibud av ve'em", you are all mixed up.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on September 15, 2010, 03:53:43 AM
Hi all

Alot has been writen about Papagayo allready, its a very good place.

Lately I have heard from "heimishe" people in Jerusalem, that drinks with milk were served there and the hechsher is not good....

Does anyone know something about this?

Was planning on eating there sukkes, but I am not sure anymore

http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2009/08/new-kashrut-agency-in-israel-3rd-shuk-tour-ou-israel/

I saw the story was posted already last year, but no update!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on September 15, 2010, 08:13:18 AM
the ou-israel changed with new leadership. if you have any questions, speak to the new head, r' krakowski
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on September 16, 2010, 09:11:20 AM
Dear Mr. Chuchem,

Thank you very much for your e-mail.

Subsequent to that story, the OU reviewed all of its foodservice establishments by a senior representative from NY. The point referenced to in the article suggesting a dairy alcoholic beverage possibly served at a meat restaurant in the end turned out not to be accurate.

The OU hashgacha at Papagaio is very much in order. The restaurant has an OU mashgiach temidi and in addition, is visited by another supervising OU Rov periodically. The restaurant has a good history with meeting OU requirements.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate.

Wishing you a gmar tov. 

Best regards,

Rabbi David Bistricer
Rabbinic Coordinator
212-613-8274-phone
212-613-0774-fax 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on September 28, 2010, 02:39:35 AM
http://www.genesisland.co.il/

I did this yesterday with the kids. 20 Dollars per person. Its 40 min. from Jerusalem and takes about 1,5 hours. Must reserve in advance
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: beej on November 15, 2010, 02:03:59 PM
does anyone know anything about places to eat near yam hamelach? i heard there is a kosher restaurant in arad, does anyone have any details? hechsher?  address? phone number?
thanx
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: md on January 01, 2011, 09:42:07 PM
Any ideas on restaurants walking distance to Sheraton hotel & towers in Tel Aviv?
Also any recommendations on things to do nearby? The wife & I will be there for 1 day next week.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2011, 04:30:20 AM
Any ideas on restaurants walking distance to Sheraton hotel & towers in Tel Aviv?
Also any recommendations on things to do nearby? The wife & I will be there for 1 day next week.
I'm not sure if its walking distance, but I'm a big fan of Alter Nativ.  They have a great prix fixe special I think before 6pm.  Also they have a 10% coupon on eluna.  Don't miss the Creme Brulee or the ben and jerry's milkshakes.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WAM on January 13, 2011, 07:22:23 AM
Keyara is really good and nice another place with a nice sized party room and cheaper with great food as well would be RYU on emek! A great nice relaxed ambiance dairy place I would say is bait ticho it's really good and don't think many people know about it so it's usually quiet and motsai shabbat they have live music nothin crazy just a keyboard and sax! Very relaxing and nice outdoor garden patio
RYU is the best flaishig restaurant we've been to in IL. http://ryu.rest-e.co.il/ It's Rabbanut Mehadrin Yerushalayim. It has decent prices, isn't too packed. Make sure you sit in the back if you want a romantic atmosphere. get a 10% off coupon here (http://www.eluna.com/coupons/RYU.gif). Print it out and bring it with you.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on January 13, 2011, 12:15:21 PM
i was actually impressed with "modern" located in the israel museum
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Post by: Chachem Balaileh on April 28, 2011, 12:55:25 AM
Any late updates on where to eat in teveria,Jerusalem,tav
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yid on April 28, 2011, 01:25:24 AM
Any late updates on where to eat in teveria,Jerusalem,tav

for meat i recommend kiara and for milk apple and pear. just remember to print out a 10% coupon from eluna.com.
in teveria there is one mehadrin restaurant on the kineret (forgot the name) and also a pizza shop right nearby as well as great falafel in the felafel stands.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 28, 2011, 01:40:54 AM
eluna.co.il
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2011, 02:20:19 AM
Any late updates on where to eat in teveria,Jerusalem,tav
Cafe C in Teverya, Alter-Nativ in TA, Cafe Rimon (milk and meat) in J'lem were some of my favorites.
Look on Eluna for coupons.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chachem Balaileh on April 28, 2011, 07:40:13 PM

for meat i recommend kiara and for milk apple and pear.
Where is Kiara?
Where is Apple&Pear
im taking notes...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 28, 2011, 07:57:04 PM
I assume he means Keyara, which is by the windmill on Rechov Ramban right by King George/Keren Hayesod. As I've mentioned before, I think that Sheyan (located upstairs of Keyara) is a great place too...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 28, 2011, 11:16:33 PM
apple and pear, aka agas vetapuach is located by the iriya
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chachem Balaileh on April 29, 2011, 05:39:35 PM
;)
apple and pear, aka agas vetapuach is located by the iriya
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on April 29, 2011, 07:55:33 PM
;)
i dont follow
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Shimon on May 01, 2011, 05:38:35 AM
Coupons in Israel? Do you use coupons for other mitzvot?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Crazy tools on May 01, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
funny guy, what # mitzvah is it to eat in Israel? :p
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WAM on May 13, 2011, 05:20:26 AM
Coupons in Israel? Do you use coupons for other mitzvot?
Yup. On Shabbos it's Buy 1, get 999 free!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WAM on May 13, 2011, 05:21:34 AM
Any late updates on where to eat in teveria,Jerusalem,tav
RYU in emek refaim. I mentioned it above, really good food and atmosphere
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on May 13, 2011, 05:27:36 AM
RYU in emek refaim. I mentioned it above, really good food and atmosphere
What's the hashgacha?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 13, 2011, 09:43:07 AM
Rabbanut Yerushalayim
it used to be yoja
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Ergel on May 13, 2011, 09:49:54 AM
 it is mehadrin 1(or at least it was) i did not like it as much as yoja's
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WAM on May 20, 2011, 08:59:19 AM
it is mehadrin 1(or at least it was) i did not like it as much as yoja's
Yup, Rabbanut Mehadrin Yerushalaim
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 24, 2011, 09:47:01 AM
It appears that Taiku is no longer Aguda, and is now Rabinite Jerusalem (NOT Mehadrin)

Now I'm stuck with a 100NIS off 200 coupon I got on groupon
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AsherO on October 24, 2011, 10:15:15 AM
It appears that Taiku is no longer Aguda, and is now Rabinite Jerusalem (NOT Mehadrin)

Now I'm stuck with a 100NIS off 200 coupon I got on groupon

Get your money back from Groupon.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 24, 2011, 10:22:24 AM
Get your money back from Groupon.
How. And I just realized this is in the wrong thread
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AsherO on October 24, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
How. And I just realized this is in the wrong thread

PUTPAC or email them, they have a no hassle guarentee (or whatever they call it).

'Report to mod' to move the posts where you want 'em to be.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 01:31:19 PM
Can seem to find anything up to date.. Where should I go for a nice Mehadrin Dinner in Tiveria?

TIA

P.s I'm hungry, hurry up
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on October 24, 2011, 01:36:09 PM
Can seem to find anything up to date.. Where should I go for a nice Mehadrin Dinner in Tiveria?

TIA

P.s I'm hungry, hurry up
I would say go out to Lavi.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 01:36:57 PM
I would say go out to Lavi.
wish I could. No car though
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on October 24, 2011, 01:47:22 PM
wish I could. No car though
Oh well. Last time I stayed in Tiveria that's what I did, so I didn't do any research there. Sorry I can't help .
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 01:49:23 PM
Quote
Oh well. Last time I stayed in Tiveria that's what I did, so I didn't do any research there. Sorry I can't help .
thanks! Anybody?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
Can seem to find anything up to date.. Where should I go for a nice Mehadrin Dinner in Tiveria?

TIA

P.s I'm hungry, hurry up
As long as you're OK with milchigs, Cafe C.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 02:20:57 PM
As long as you're OK with milchigs, Cafe C.
I guess might keep that for breakfast/lunch tomorrow. Unlees I can't find fleishichs, which I'm afraid is the case

I give up: where is cafe c? (I'm at the promenande)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on October 24, 2011, 02:35:41 PM
im sure you know about cherrys. dairy
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 02:39:14 PM
im sure you know about cherrys. dairy
sitting there now. Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2011, 02:40:10 PM
sitting there now. Thanks everyone!
Meh. I'd take Cafe C over cherrys any day.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on October 24, 2011, 03:43:47 PM
I'm with Dan on this. Everything we've had there was really good. In particular the cheese potato is really good - tell them you want it 'mukram'.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2011, 07:42:30 PM
Quote from: PlatinumGuy link=topic=1885.msg132366#msg132366
Meh. I'd take Cafe C over cherrys any day.
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couldn't find it in time. Will go tomorrrow. Thanks guys for all the help.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 24, 2011, 07:59:13 PM
Meh. I'd take Cafe C over cherrys any day.

Where is it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 25, 2011, 11:32:52 AM
That question is so relative ::)
to be safe ...I just eat lots of shwarma from Massive
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 25, 2011, 11:35:19 AM
i used to love massive
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 25, 2011, 11:39:14 AM
i kept them in business in 2003...still working off the weight
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 25, 2011, 11:39:55 AM
i think my picture is still up there
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 25, 2011, 01:49:06 PM
to be safe ...I just eat lots of shwarma from Massive
??? how is that safe. I don't believe they have a good hashgacha anymore
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: myb821 on October 25, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
yea massive doesnt have good hasgacha anymnore
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 25, 2011, 02:07:31 PM
back in the day they had a good hashgacha and they made the best schwarma and to have a smoke after eating one was almost gan eden
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 25, 2011, 02:36:35 PM
??? how is that safe. I don't believe they have a good hashgacha anymore

do they not have good hasgacha anymore?  when i was there it was ok
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 25, 2011, 03:19:47 PM
do they not have good hasgacha anymore?  when i was there it was ok
Hasn't been good in at least 4 years
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 25, 2011, 03:28:07 PM
yeah i haven't been there either for a long time since 04
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 25, 2011, 04:21:01 PM
this is very depressing
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 25, 2011, 08:22:50 PM
Thanks guys! Went to both. Cherry was the one I returned to afterwards. It moved recently (<5 years). & the location is superior. Its a happening time in Tvaria now, & Cherry was at the center of things. Food was probably better too IMHO, but maybe because at C-Cafe I tried to eat Pasta for breakfast.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on October 26, 2011, 01:23:10 AM
so where did you end up staying? Hotel ? apartment?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 26, 2011, 06:56:57 AM
so where did you end up staying? Hotel ? apartment?
don't ask! I wasn't paying... But we stayed in the Galei Kinneret for $240/night. No hangers in the room, no late checkout, no desk in the room, nothing in the mini bar. Horrible attiude.
The hotel waterfront is amazing with hammocks etc., and we had a great time!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: bhphotoman on October 26, 2011, 03:04:06 PM
to be safe ...I just eat lots of shwarma from Massive


were would i find this fine establishment?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 26, 2011, 04:13:41 PM
massive is near the tachana mercazit or at least it was when i was there
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 26, 2011, 08:50:38 PM
has anyone had definite confirmation that it is no longer under good hashgacha?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 27, 2011, 02:32:45 AM
i havent heard of anyone going there for years. (similar to hess)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 03:25:34 AM
i havent heard of anyone going there for years. (similar to hess)
+1
It still creeps me out that I ever went to Hess
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: myb821 on October 27, 2011, 07:18:11 AM
dont think i ever went to hess but what happened
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 09:00:06 AM
dont think i ever went to hess but what happened
There is no Hashgacha (I didn't know that at the time), and if anyone asks what the hashgacha is, he gets up and loudly insults him in public
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 27, 2011, 09:19:58 AM
i was there once also right when it opened
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 27, 2011, 11:42:20 AM
what are some good shwarma places now?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: dealvr on October 27, 2011, 01:09:33 PM
There is no Hashgacha (I didn't know that at the time), and if anyone asks what the hashgacha is, he gets up and loudly insults him in public
And he got away with this for how long?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 01:17:06 PM
And he got away with this for how long?
Still does AFAIK
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 01:18:37 PM
what are some good shwarma places now?
I like Halo Taimon, but I think the most underrated shwarma in Israel is V'ochalta V'sovota by The Mir. I'm not saying it's the best, I'm just saying it really deserves to be on the map
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 27, 2011, 01:19:08 PM
what are some good shwarma places now?
halo teiman isnt bad
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: bubbles on October 27, 2011, 01:19:30 PM
I like Halo Taimon, but I think the most underrated shwarma in Israel is V'ochalta V'sovota by The Mir. I'm not saying it's the best, I'm just saying it really deserves to be on the map

+10
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 27, 2011, 01:19:59 PM
I like Halo Taimon, but I think the most underrated shwarma in Israel is V'ochalta V'sovota by The Mir. I'm not saying it's the best, I'm just saying it really deserves to be on the map
never heard of it. where is it located
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: dealvr on October 27, 2011, 01:22:52 PM
Right near the entrance to Jerusalem.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: smurf on October 27, 2011, 01:23:40 PM
Is tzunani in Geula still around?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 27, 2011, 01:41:42 PM
Right near the entrance to Jerusalem.
what are you responding to?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 27, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
Is tzunani in Geula still around?
yes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 27, 2011, 01:43:40 PM
its funny how every few years some new schwarma place gets to be the in place to eat
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 01:44:22 PM
its funny how every few years some new schwarma place gets to be the in place to eat
??? examples
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 27, 2011, 01:51:36 PM
i posted that massive was my best and now some ppl are posting other names are the best to go to
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on October 27, 2011, 01:54:43 PM
I think you owe mister hess a apology and ask him for mechile. I know him from switzerland, were he used to own a meatstore, that had a hashgoche and everyone ate there.
i ate in his restaurant in jerusalem alot of the years and he did have a hechsher, to claim otherwise is a lie!
He had rabanut mehadrin, a "tuda" confirming that all meat is eide chareidis besides for a few exceptions, like goose liver...
He also had a hechsher from raw lovinger. Raw lovinger is a big talmid chochem and used to be rabbi of one of the main shul in basel. He made alija and lives in israel now. He also gave hess a hechsher. i dont know how it has been in the last 12 month, as when i come to israel from switzerland, i dont go to a swiss restaurant. But to claim, that he didnt have a hechsher from the start is a lie. He had one when i was in yeshiva and kollel for 5 years in israel.

I am not vouching for him, just giving you the facts. Decide for yourself, if you want to eat there!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 27, 2011, 01:56:41 PM
when i was there at hess he didnt have a hechsher and he just certified himself that it was kosher- ppl thought that there was a hechsher but there wasnt
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 01:57:18 PM
I think you owe mister hess a apology and ask him for mechile. I know him from switzerland, were he used to own a meatstore, that had a hashgoche and everyone ate there.
i ate in his restaurant in jerusalem alot of the years and he did have a hechsher, to claim otherwise is a lie!
He had rabanut mehadrin, a "tuda" confirming that all meat is eide chareidis besides for a few exceptions, like goose liver...
He also had a hechsher from raw lovinger. Raw lovinger is a big talmid chochem and used to be rabbi of one of the main shul in basel. He made alija and lives in israel now. He also gave hess a hechsher. i dont know how it has been in the last 12 month, as when i come to israel from switzerland, i dont go to a swiss restaurant. But to claim, that he didnt have a hechsher from the start is a lie. He had one when i was in yeshiva and kollel for 5 years in israel.

I am not vouching for him, just giving you the facts. Decide for yourself, if you want to eat there!
AFAIK, he had a hechsher on the meat, but not on the store. Even so, I don't believe a restaurant owner has any right to publicly embarrass someone for asking what the hashgacha is
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: dealvr on October 27, 2011, 02:00:36 PM
And he got away with this for how long?

Sounded way too sketchy to begin with.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 27, 2011, 02:10:31 PM
from Jerusalem Kosher News

Hess Restaurant [1 of 2]
11 Kislev 5769
December 8, 2008

Jerusalem Restaurant – Hess of Switzerland  (Part 1)
Located in Yerushalayim – 9 Heleini HaMalka Street – 02-623-2678
Under the supervision of Rabbi Yisrael Meir Levinger & Jerusalem Rabbinate (regular, not mehadrin).
Hess-m@inter.net.il
http://www.hess-restaurants.com/


Teudah from Rav Y. M. Levinger - Hess Restaurant
Undoubtedly, upon entering the restaurant, one feels the European charm, realizing this place is for people who are serious about eating, particularly the Yekke style cold cuts and delicacies.

Since I am not a food critic I will not belabor the point but I am indeed focused on kashrus issues, and that is where this article will head. I for one am extremely disturbed by the fact that it took me quite a bit of negotiating with Mrs. Hess (Marcel was not in) to get the number of the mashgiach, Rabbi Levinger. I did not get the number of the Chief Rabbinate mashgiach either, but at the time, I was seeking Rabbi Levinger, who provides the mehadrin portion of the restaurant’s kashrus.
Most people who eyeball the wall which is decorated with kashrus certificates are highly impressed, but if one scrutinizes the certificates, one may see a totally different picture.

Hess, in his newspaper ads, business cards and store itself portrays the eatery as one of the absolute highest standard of kashrus, and while this may indeed by the case, one may never know. The Hess family, in our numerous telephone and in-person conversations seems resentful when questioned regarding the store’s kashrus, insisting the family lineage and personal yirat shamayim (fear of Heaven) are enough to permit us to lay our fears aside. Well for me, it just ain’t so. Mr. & Mrs. Hess continue to reassure me, and I explained it is not a matter of reassurance, but kashrus information must come from the mashgiach, not the owner. They were at best extremely hesitant to give me any information, continuing to explain their standard is absolutely impeccable.

Let’s begin with the certificate for the fruits and vegetables, which bears the seal of the Jerusalem-based Eida Chareidit. For one thing, it is not a certificate for Hess restaurant, and for another, it is a photocopy.

In actuality, it is a photocopy of a certificate for a store called Agassi Fruit & Vegetables in the Har Nof section of the city. This is where Mrs. Hess tells me they purchase all their fruits and vegetables. This may be so, but it says nothing regarding any supervision on their store. Anyone can go into a fruit store, take a photo of a certificate, print it and hang it. The point, a photocopy of a fruit store’s hechsher does not act as testimony.

Certificate number two, which boldly announces “glatt meats under the supervision of Sheiris Yisrael.

Read the entire certificate folks – it says “Sheiris Yisrael or Rabbanut”.

In reality, the store is under the supervision of the Jerusalem Rabbinate- regular, not mehadrin, and Rabbi Yisrael Meir Levinger, who as of our last conversation, remains incapable of answering basic questions regarding the kashrus of the store, which by his own admission, is the only store in the world which carries his name.

As of this report, I still await the phone number of the Rabbanut mashgiach. Yes, I can get it from my sources in the Rabbanut, but that is not the point. In addition, Hess boasts his pristine mehadrin-ism. The Rabbanut supervision is regular so even if it meets the Chief Rabbinate’s standard, that is in no way close to the standard he tries to exhibit, “glatt kosher mehadrin min ha’mehadrin”.

Well, it took some doing but I did finally get the telephone number of Rav Levinger. We spoke many times. I honestly did not keep a log, and what is clear is that the good rabbi never actually checks the store at all. In fact, he told me in so many words that he is a family friend of Mr. & Mrs. Hess from Switzerland, and they (family Hess) and his (Mr. Marcel Hess’) father were members of his congregation. He went on to sing praise regarding their fervent religious practices, which I in no way question, but at the end of the day, Rabbi Levinger hasn’t a clue what takes place in the restaurant, yet alone the Hess-owned and operated smoke house in Jerusalem’s Givat Shaul neighborhood.

I asked basics, such as 1) where is the meat purchased, 2) where are fruits & vegetables purchased, 3) what hechsherim are on raw ingredients such as spices, flavorings and so-forth.

Rabbi Levinger was clueless and became noticeably frustrated and tongue-tied, realizing I was not about to go away — and he would have to admit he does not inspect the restaurant or be exposed in a bad light. After all, as he put it, “When they came to Israel they asked me to do them a favor, to provide supervision, so I agreed. I know the family and knew his father. It is the only restaurant that I provide with supervision in the world.”

The rabbi was even less knowledgeable regarding the smoke house. Having experience in the butcher and catering fields, I began asking about ingredients in the hot dogs, pastrami and other cold cuts. The good rabbi was absolutely without any ability to respond based on first-hand knowledge. He explained to me “they do not use spices”. Anyone involved in any way with cold cuts, provisions, hot dogs or whatever knows there are spices, additives, and much much more. (At the time of this report, I have not visited the smokehouse).

I would like to interrupt here with a comment. What you read above took over two weeks to uncover. Many phone calls to many people. There is no cooperation on the part of the Hess family, and quite honestly, in my one year of pounding the pavement of Jerusalem, never have I encountered a restaurant owner, manager, or mashgiach, or hotel for that matter, who is unwilling to give basic information.

Forgive me for jumping to conclusions but this reeks of a cover-up, with the Hess family not willing to have anyone question the integrity of their operation. While it may indeed be pristine, it just does not work that way and that is why we have rabbis and supervising agencies, to assure us that we are eating what we think we are.

Sorry for this downer report but I am downright frustrated, although not close to despair. I will continue calling Rav Levinger when he returns from a trip abroad, and continue probing into the store and Hess smokehouse. Ultimately, I do plan a part 2 to this which I hope will include a long list of clarifications and explanations. That would make me a happy trooper.

My motto remains “eat what you like but do so based on knowing”. You, a consumer, and more importantly a kosher consumer, have that basic right and please, learn to stand up for it!

Yechiel Spira.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 27, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
Hess Restaurant [2 of 2]
Rosh Chodesh Shvat - 1 Shvat 5769
January 26, 2009

Jerusalem Restaurant – Hess of Switzerland  (Part 2 of 2)
Located in Yerushalayim – 9 Helene HaMalka Street – 02-623-2678
Under the supervision of Rabbi Yisrael Meir Levinger & Jerusalem Rabbinate (regular, not mehadrin).
Hess-m@inter.net.il
http://www.hess-restaurants.com/

Hi folks,
It has been about 6 weeks since I released the first report on Hess Restaurant, and now, a bit in arrears, the completion of my report.


The report is based on a series of questions that I submitted to Ezra Levinger, who explained to me the restaurant’s certificate is provided by his father [as reported in part one], Rabbi Yisrael Meir Levinger, but in actuality, he is the mashgiach, not his father.

If you recall from the first report, I had asked Mrs. Hess to tour the kitchen and smokehouse facility to get a first-hand look at the kashrus operation, but my requests (yes, plural) were refused. Mr. Marcel Hess was quite adamant in his refusal as well, and it took a bit of persuading to just get the name of the mashgiach.

I will add my own two cents before presenting the factual data, Ezra Levinger’s response to my questions.

1. My contacts in the Chief Rabbinate of Jerusalem stated that “While Rabbi Levinger is known, formally from Switzerland, he is in no way authorized to grant a kashrus certificate to any business whatsoever, including Hess. As far as the Chief Rabbinate is concerned, Hess is under regular Jerusalem Rabbinate supervision and is not mehadrin, since Levinger’s certificate is not recognized.

That said, Rabbi Yitzchak Iluitzsky, director of kashrut in the Jerusalem Rabbinate, stated he knows Rabbi Levinger, who is known to be a responsible Torah observant man. The rabbi also stated that from his own personal knowledge, Hess is very stringent regarding the ingredients used in his store and smokehouse, and only family members, all Shomer Shabbat, cook and there are no non-Jews or non-observant Jews involved in the food preparation stage whatsoever.

Rabbi Iluitzsky chalks up Mr. Hess’ refusal to open the kitchen to a different cultural perspective on things, stating “that is how the Swiss are”.

2. From my perspective, any restaurant unwilling to cooperate and exhibit kashrus transparency leaves me with a most uncomfortable feeling. Of all the hotels and restaurants I have entered, small and large, Hess’ response is unprecedented and somewhat ‘chutzpadik’ in my opinion. You the reader and potential patron shall do as you see fit.

3. Take for example the stores kashrus certificate from Rabbi Levinger (http://tinyurl.com/7s7e6q) which has the words “Badatz Sheiris Yisrael” in bold red, while other meats served, Rabbanut Yerushalayim, is in less obvious black, to diminish it and in my opinion, to deceive patrons into believing the certificate is that of the Badatz Sheiris Yisrael WHICH IT IS NOT.  It is also the only kashrus certificate I have seen that does not display a contact name and number of the mashgiach, once again, deterring contact or investigation.

4. For the sake of thoroughness, regarding the sign posted in the store, a photocopy of the kashrus certificate of Agassi Fruits and Vegetables (http://tinyurl.com/8jrksz) under the supervision of the Eida Chareidit, I did phone the store and the owner confirmed that Hess receives daily orders from him.

Following is a translation of the questions which I emailed to Ezra Levinger in Hebrew, receiving his responses in Hebrew as well.

1. HOW OFTEN IS THE RESTAURANT INSPECTED BY A MASHGIACH?

The Chief Rabbinate’s mashgiach enters daily and I make occasional appearances, without announcing my schedule in advance.

2. HOW OFTEN IN THE SMOKEHOUSE FACILITY INSPECTED?

I am also the mashgiach in the smokehouse for the Jerusalem Rabbinate. I have a key and enter as I please, unannounced. From time-to-time, I am also present for the actual manufacturing process.

3. IS THERE A MASHGIACH PRESENT AT ALL TIMES IN BOTH FACILITIES?

The mashgiach is not present full time in either place since the proprietor is a Shomer Shabbos individual.

4. MR. HESS TOLD ME THAT “THE MASHGIACH DOES NOT CHECK REGULARLY” BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN RELY ON HIM. IS THIS THE CASE IN ACTUALITY?

There is no such scenario. Of course there is an element of trust, but I am personally familiar with his entire operation, both the restaurant and the smokehouse, as required.

5. PLEASE SPECIFY THE INGREDIENTS USED IN BOTH THE RESTAURANT AND SMOKEHOUSE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO VEGETABLES, SPICES, PRESERVATIVES AND OTHER ADDITIVES AND OTHER COOKING INGREDIENTS.

The smokehouse uses almost exclusively meat, with few additives. (Due to professional ‘immunity’ I cannot detail the other ingredients, but I can assure you that are all under “good supervisions”.

In the store, in addition to the spices, which are under the Badatz Agudat Yisrael, the vegetables are from a source under the Eida Chareidit and I can attest to this. The greens are only the ‘Gush Katif’ type with certificates.  There is no ‘heter mechira’ ingredients regarding shmitah year.

6. THE CERTIFICATE OF RAV LEVINGER STATES MEATS ARE SHEIRIS YISRAEL OR RABBANUT. IS THIS SO?

The frozen meats are provided by Hacker, Sheiris Yisrael supervision. The remainder is Jerusalem schita (slaughter) glatt (chalak) with the exception of goose, which is not mehadrin but a regular Jerusalem supervision. This item is sold in packages only.

7. ARE THERE SEPARATE UTENSILS FOR NON-KASHERED LIVERS?

The livers prior to the kashering process are held in unique utensils not used for anything else. In addition, the washing of the livers is done in a sink used exclusively for this purpose.

8. DOES THE STORE ACCOMMODATE THE STRINGENCIES OF BOTH THE RAMA AND BEIT YOSEF?

Yes.

9. IS THERE ANY SUPERVISION ON THE SIFTING OF FLOUR, INSPECTION OF GRAINS AND LENTILS AND THE WASHING OF VEGETABLES?

The sifting of flour, opening of eggs, the washing of greens and inspection of lentils are all done as per my instructions. By the way, regarding the lentils, we try to my the “Ki Tov” brand [which comes vacuum packed and bug free as per the supervision of the Eida Chareidit].

10. HAS THE CHIEF RABBINATE AUTHORIZED RABBI LEVINGER TO GIVE A KASHRUS SUPERVISION?

Rabbi Levinger’s supervision is done in cooperation with Rabbi Iluitzsky, who heads the Kashrus Dept. of the Jerusalem Rabbinate.

RAV LEVINGER CONTINUES:
There is a matter which you did not address, one that is problematic in many restaurants, and that is the issue of bishul akum. The Hess Restaurant to my knowledge is one of the few places which excels in this area, that no non-Jews are in the kitchen and not even non-Shomer Shabbat Jews deal with the kitchen and food preparation. In addition, the pouring of wine is done exclusively by a member of the Hess family or a mashgiach, even the bishul wines. Any ingredient entering the store must have a reliable ‘Badatz’ hechsher. We use only the well-known Badatzim such as Rubin, Belz, Rav Landau, Sheiris, Agudah, Beit Yosef, Yoreh Deah, OU, OK, Jerusalem Rabbinate Mehadrin, Rechovot Rabbinate Mehadrin and the like.

Simple things such as coffee and tea we also accept hechsherim of agencies abroad, from local rabbinates.

If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.

E. Levinger.

****
ADDITIONAL NOTES;
When I sought to gain access to the kitchen and smokehouse via Ezra Levinger, he told me he cannot permit me to do so without approval from the Hess Family, so I simply stopped asking.

There was much confusion in my mind regarding the supervision and the mashgichim so I phoned Rabbi Iluitzsky again, who explained the situation as follows.

From the Jerusalem Chief Rabbinate’s perspective, the restaurant and smokehouse facility have plain non-mehadrin supervision. The mashgiach for the store is David Elmaliach. The mashgiach for the smokehouse is Ezra Levinger, a son of the rabbi giving the supervision but in this case, he is employed for both, the rabbi and the Rabbinate.

If you recall, Mrs. Hess told me the mashgiach does not enter the store too often because they are very reliable, since they are all shomer Shabbat. Elmaliach told me he enters several times a day. Make of this what you wish – I have no explanation to offer. I even told Elmaliach that Mrs. Hess told me he rarely comes in but he stated “this is not so. I am there everyday, several times a day”.

In short, I tried to present dry facts and leave you with an ability to make your own decision as is my goal with all the reports. I must say, for a small operation, this place has demanded many hours of my time.

By the way, I also asked Rabbi Iluitzsky why Ezra Levinger is permitted to be on the Chief Rabbinate payroll while he also works for his father, who may be reliable but nonetheless, “an unauthorized hechsher”. The rabbi explained that this may be the case; he and his colleagues are not concerned here since they feel the restaurant maintains a standard. He is more concerned directing his energy towards the bogus mehadrin restaurants.

I then questioned why Hess does not have Jerusalem Rabbinate Mehadrin instead of Levinger, to which Rabbi Iluitzsky stated that because of the non- mehadrin goose liver, sold in packages, he does not conform to Jerusalem Rabbinate Mehadrin standards.


Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mercaz1 on October 27, 2011, 02:20:30 PM
thats how i remember it that the owners said that since they have impeccable kashrus standards themselves they dont need a hechsher but that was in 03 so it could be it changed since then s noted in this article
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on October 27, 2011, 02:26:29 PM
what are you responding to?
Halo Taimon
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on October 27, 2011, 02:27:53 PM
thats how i remember it that the owners said that since they have impeccable kashrus standards themselves they dont need a hechsher but that was in 03 so it could be it changed since then s noted in this article
Sounds like a certain famous heimishe family in CLE that fed the community traife some 17 years ago...and they actually were under hashgocha, but the Vaad got lax after the restaurant was sold by a goy to this family and they stopped having a mashgiach t'midi.

Someone once told me after 120 years when they get to Shamayim and G-d asks, Did you keep kosher? He'll say" I don't know, but I paid for kosher."   
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: twentie4hrs on October 27, 2011, 02:35:31 PM


Someone once told me after 120 years when they get to Shamayim and G-d asks, Did you keep kosher? He'll say" I don't know, but I paid for kosher."   

best line ever
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
So any non-frozen meats are regular non-mehadrin rabbinute?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 27, 2011, 02:38:02 PM
Sounds like a certain famous heimishe family in CLE that fed the community traife some 17 years ago...and they actually were under hashgocha, but the Vaad got lax after the restaurant was sold by a goy to this family and they stopped having a mashgiach t'midi.
The way I feel about it, is even if they have a totally reliable hechsher, I still wouldn't eat there. How can you rely on a guy that insults people who ask about kashrus?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WAM on November 28, 2011, 03:38:21 AM
Went to a restaurant in Jlm last night called Vaquerio. It's located on Haneviim. The review here (http://www.eluna.com/rest%5CVaqueiro.asp?mumu=435) is outdated, but that's pretty much the only one that I saw. Here's (http://vaqueiro.co.il/EngContent.aspx?PageId=2) the menu. We went there bec I got a coupon on groupon (https://www.groupon.co.il/deals/jerusalem-iw/Vaqueiro/1606462). Our 1st course consisted of a salad platter (blah) and the turkey breast salad (delish!). Then we got the steaks - very plain - with some very good roasted potatoes. The ambiance was pretty nice (make sure you get a reservation for the inner room, unless you don't mind a chilly meal). They have 2 all you can eat specials: a (late) lunch (they open at 3pm) all you can eat with 6 types of meat for ₪95; dinner with 10-12 different meats for ₪159. I was wondering if anybody ever did the all you can eat here, and if yes, how was?

The Kashrus is Mehadrin - Bada"tz Yoreh Deah, Rav Machpud
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 28, 2011, 08:15:02 AM
i did, and the service was way too slow. id rather go to papagaio or el gaucho ramat gan
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 28, 2011, 08:19:17 AM
or el gaucho ramat gan
+1 I remember when it was still 120 pp for eat all you can, now I think it's 190. But good stuff.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 28, 2011, 08:59:52 AM
+1 I remember when it was still 120 pp for eat all you can, now I think it's 190. But good stuff.
I remember when it was 90 :(
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 28, 2011, 09:08:35 AM
I remember when it was 90 :(
you do? it was 99 when i first came to israel in 2004 and in 2005 it switched to 120
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 28, 2011, 12:50:31 PM
you do? it was 99 when i first came to israel in 2004 and in 2005 it switched to 120
Maybe 99? Dunno, I came in 2003
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on November 28, 2011, 12:53:02 PM
it was 90, i also remember this. Then it was really worth it. Now with papagaio serving much better meat and the price being the same, not worth the shlep... But we did have good meals in Yeshiva, traveling with a sherut, 10 guys. good fun
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 28, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
ditto, used to take moniyot geula to the corner of r akiva/yerushalayim probably twice a month
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 28, 2011, 03:59:23 PM
RYU is pretty solid. Rabbanut Mehadrin, Emek Refaim Street
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: dwkl on November 29, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
their is an excellent restaurant called maxin asian restaurant located on sderot herzel 103 jerusalem has agudas yisroel hecscher

pm me for special discount as i know the owner thru business
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 29, 2011, 05:06:29 PM
their is an excellent restaurant called maxin asian restaurant located on sderot herzel 103 jerusalem has agudas yisroel hecscher

pm me for special discount as i know the owner thru business

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on November 29, 2011, 05:22:35 PM
I organized a sheva broches there. Good food, good prices... worth going
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 29, 2011, 06:04:41 PM
'excellent' might be pushing it, decent is probably more accurate (imho, sorry for being so cynical)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 29, 2011, 06:07:26 PM
'excellent' might be pushing it, decent is probably more accurate (imho, sorry for being so cynical)

apology accepted...what's your favorite place in israel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 29, 2011, 06:28:44 PM
modern for their beef carpaccio and ribeye
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 29, 2011, 06:42:59 PM
their is an excellent restaurant called maxin asian restaurant located on sderot herzel 103 jerusalem has agudas yisroel hecscher

pm me for special discount as i know the owner thru business
how appropriate
http://www.groupon.co.il/deals/jerusalem-iw/maxin/1861597?nlp=&CID=IL_CRM_1_0_0_334&a=1955
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 29, 2011, 06:48:08 PM
modern for their beef carpaccio and ribeye

you eat ou ? :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 29, 2011, 07:12:06 PM
modern for their beef carpaccio and ribeye


you eat ou ? :P

What IS the kashrus there like?

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Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 29, 2011, 07:13:10 PM
you eat ou ? :P
yes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on December 04, 2011, 11:38:22 AM
Cafe Cafe was very good...every location has the same menu and same great taste...though not every location is mehadrin so check...you can also join their 'club' for 25 shekel which gives you 10% off every bill for 1 year and three free cups of coffee - one per visit, and 25% on your birthday...a good deal if you'll make 2-3 trips over the course of the year.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mordy788 on December 04, 2011, 06:15:59 PM
I'm going to Israel for Chanuka. Anyone know place to get coupons or discounts for restaurants in Israel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yid on December 04, 2011, 07:51:25 PM
I'm going to Israel for Chanuka. Anyone know place to get coupons or discounts for restaurants in Israel?
eluna.co.il
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WAM on December 05, 2011, 02:49:06 AM
I'm going to Israel for Chanuka. Anyone know place to get coupons or discounts for restaurants in Israel?
Try your luck at anglodeals.co.il (http://anglodeals.co.il)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mordy788 on December 06, 2011, 10:01:22 PM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mordy788 on December 06, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
Try your luck at anglodeals.co.il (http://anglodeals.co.il)

Anyone ever been to the Israel Museum. I bought the coupon for 24NIS.

Can anyone give any opinions about this deal. http://www.dealhayom.co.il/jerusalem/beit-shemesh (http://www.dealhayom.co.il/jerusalem/beit-shemesh)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: elikay on December 06, 2011, 11:41:17 PM
Anyone ever been to the Israel Museum. I bought the coupon for 24NIS.

Can anyone give any opinions about this deal. http://www.dealhayom.co.il/jerusalem/beit-shemesh (http://www.dealhayom.co.il/jerusalem/beit-shemesh)
I have been to Israel museum, they've got a model of yerushalayim with the bais hamikdash, very cool. They also have the shrine of the book? and interesting artifacts from Jewish communities around the world. Plus some art (I got into trouble when I took a picture, so from then on it was no flash  ;-)  all in all we had a good time. One very important note, this museum is a no no for kohanim.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ygift on December 21, 2011, 07:26:07 PM
someone told me that on line you can tickets fro free for the blind museum. anyone know where to get it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on December 21, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
someone told me that on line you can tickets fro free for the blind museum. anyone know where to get it?

IDK if they're free but it certainly is an amazing place to visit.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on December 22, 2011, 01:20:09 AM
eluna.co.il
eluna.com great site has almost every resturaunt, catagorized by glatt/not also has 10% off
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 22, 2011, 02:38:09 AM
IDK if they're free but it certainly is an amazing place to visit.
ive never been there but heard great things. is it just a room with no light?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on December 22, 2011, 05:48:37 AM
ive never been there but heard great things. is it just a room with no light?
They have a setup where you can experience things like a walk in the park, crossing a street, on a boat, in a cabin, even buying things in a store (I'm still unsure how much I paid for my bar of chocolate  :D) and more.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 22, 2011, 06:07:02 AM
Just noticed Modern has new items on the menu, not sure when exactly its from
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on December 22, 2011, 12:16:24 PM
Just noticed Modern has new items on the menu, not sure when exactly its from
good food there very fresh
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 22, 2011, 01:54:47 PM
Just noticed Modern has new items on the menu, not sure when exactly its from
for example?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 22, 2011, 02:01:09 PM
for example?
a whole bunch, I had the Pita Grill which is an assortment of grilled meats akwardly placed atop a pita. Quite small portion. Still an awesome restaurant IMHO & I prefer it to Keyara/Sheyan any day
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on December 22, 2011, 02:31:45 PM
a whole bunch, I had the Pita Grill which is an assortment of grilled meats akwardly placed atop a pita. Quite small portion. Still an awesome restaurant IMHO & I prefer it to Keyara/Sheyan any day
i am much more of a fan of sheyan than keyara. sheyan is a great aisian fusion place and in my opinion keyara does not have that much on their menu to offer, they have like 1 steak 2 chicken and some fish maybe one veal .plus its very expensive
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on December 22, 2011, 02:32:22 PM
and keyara isn't expensive?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on December 22, 2011, 02:33:37 PM
and keyara isn't expensive?
i was talking about keyara
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on December 22, 2011, 03:04:50 PM
They have a setup where you can experience things like a walk in the park, crossing a street, on a boat, in a cabin, even buying things in a store (I'm still unsure how much I paid for my bar of chocolate  :D) and more.

the store is pretty cool...they will only take 20 shekel notes and coins and can tell if you hand them a fifty note...

in fact the bills in israel are being replaced with ones that the blind will be able to tell the denomination...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on December 22, 2011, 03:14:40 PM
the store is pretty cool...they will only take 20 shekel notes and coins and can tell if you hand them a fifty note...

in fact the bills in israel are being replaced with ones that the blind will be able to tell the denomination...
The 20s are plastic, shouldn't be that hard to tell
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on December 22, 2011, 03:24:23 PM
the store is pretty cool...they will only take 20 shekel notes and coins and can tell if you hand them a fifty note...

in fact the bills in israel are being replaced with ones that the blind will be able to tell the denomination...
I went a few years ago when the 2 shekel coin just came out, they were still a bit confused by it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on December 22, 2011, 03:25:28 PM
I went a few years ago when the 2 shekel coin just came out, they were still a bit confused by it.

LOL
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 22, 2011, 03:28:05 PM
The deaf museum (in the same compound) is nice too.
Don't forget both require advance appointment. At high season the blind museum is booked weeks in advance
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on December 22, 2011, 03:30:02 PM
The deaf museum (in the same compound) is nice too.
Don't forget both require advance appointment. At high season the blind museum is booked weeks in advance

both those places are prob 2 things that shouldn't be missed in israel
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 22, 2011, 04:56:50 PM
great aisian fusion place
what exactly are they fusing?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Miami00 on December 26, 2011, 12:39:01 AM
Hi,

Any recommendations for Best Glatt Kosher Restraruants in Tiberius and Jerusalem. Preferably steak or Morocan.
I need the strict kosher for some family members.
An help would be most appreciated.
thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: world2see on December 26, 2011, 01:16:10 AM
my favorite jerusalem restaurant is papagayo's in talpiyot,try the brazilian table!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Mocha on December 26, 2011, 09:51:13 AM
Hi,

Any recommendations for Best Glatt Kosher Restraruants in Tiberius and Jerusalem. Preferably steak or Morocan.
I need the strict kosher for some family members.
An help would be most appreciated.
thanks
Before starting a new thread please use the search on the top right corner to see if there is some other thread where your question may belong.
This question should have been posted here
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1885.msg160728#msg160728
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 26, 2011, 06:06:30 PM
when you say "glatt", are you really referring to mehadrin?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sguitarist18 on December 26, 2011, 06:39:08 PM
I very much enjoyed Kiyara - right underneath Shayan. I found their steaks done very nicely, and their desserts were delicious!

If I remember correctly, the hashgacha is Badatz Agudas Yisroel.

my favorite jerusalem restaurant is papagayo's in talpiyot,try the brazilian table!

I've heard a lot of good things about Papagayo, but check with your LOR - The hashgacha is OU, and OU in eretz Yisroel is not the same as in america.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Saver2000 on December 26, 2011, 10:52:05 PM
I very much enjoyed Kiyara - right underneath Shayan. I found their steaks done very nicely, and their desserts were delicious!

If I remember correctly, the hashgacha is Badatz Agudas Yisroel.

I've heard a lot of good things about Papagayo, but check with your LOR - The hashgacha is OU, and OU in eretz Yisroel is not the same as in america.

The better hechshairim in isreal use products -(spices )- certified by the OU so at the end of the day even badatz is relying on OU.
I don't know this for a fact. It has been discussed extensively over here

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10591.msg131819#msg131819
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sguitarist18 on December 27, 2011, 12:41:39 AM
2 points:

1) As i said, the OU there is not the same hashgacha as the OU here. I'm not an expert, but from what I understand it's not entirely the same organization (although I may be wrong).

2) Spices are not necessarily the same thing as trusting the shechita.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Saver2000 on December 27, 2011, 01:16:27 AM
2 points:

1) As i said, the OU there is not the same hashgacha as the OU here. I'm not an expert, but from what I understand it's not entirely the same organization (although I may be wrong).

2) Spices are not necessarily the same thing as trusting the shechita.

In the thread that I linked to above, It looks like other ddf'ers seem to think its one and the same organization.

AFA spices not being the same as meat - very valid point.  I didn't realize that your earlier post was referring solely to meat. -(or was it not?)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sguitarist18 on December 27, 2011, 02:00:58 AM
In the thread that I linked to above, It looks like other ddf'ers seem to think its one and the same organization.

Interesting - the OUs website seems to imply the same thing. I guess I was wrong. That said, you still might want to ask your LOR. Some people say it's fine, some don't. Go with your rabbi. :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: world2see on December 27, 2011, 06:44:31 AM
according to rav belsky shlita,the ou in israel is up to par with the same standards they keep in the u.s.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sguitarist18 on December 27, 2011, 08:35:36 AM
See my comment above. When considering a specific restaurant in israel, it is probably worthwhile to ask your rabbi.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 05, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
I'm looking for recommendations for good places to eat in Israel. What are the 3 best places you've eaten at in Jerusalem or Gush Dan areas? All responses would be appreciated...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MnM1130 on January 05, 2012, 06:18:13 PM
go to waffle bar if ur lukin for milchigs- amazing!!! they just opened a mehadrin place on beit hadfus (near harnof) (i ate in both mehadrin and not and they were both the same good) fleishigs their all pretty good- keyara, papagayo, sheyan, theres gabriel in town which i heard just got a good hechsher and its supposed to be amazing- but very high end... look on eluna and ull c the restaurants around jlm.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on January 05, 2012, 06:34:45 PM
which hechsher would that be? (for gabriel)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 05, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
go to waffle bar if ur lukin for milchigs- amazing!!! they just opened a mehadrin place on beit hadfus (near harnof) (i ate in both mehadrin and not and they were both the same good) fleishigs their all pretty good- keyara, papagayo, sheyan, theres gabriel in town which i heard just got a good hechsher and its supposed to be amazing- but very high end... look on eluna and ull c the restaurants around jlm.

Thanks for replying. I know most of the restaurants in Jerusalem, and could go by sites like eLuna, but as I asked, what are the 3 BEST places you've been to that you would recommend?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 05, 2012, 06:37:32 PM
which hechsher would that be? (for gabriel)

Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MnM1130 on January 05, 2012, 06:39:24 PM
Thanks for replying. I know most of the restaurants in Jerusalem, and could go by sites like eLuna, but as I asked, what are the 3 BEST places you've been to that you would recommend?
i find them pretty much all on the same league. also depends on what ur focus is- meat? chinese? chicken? best restaurant ive been to was in tel aviv and its called portafino i think- best steaks i EVER had.. and thats pretty hard to say since my hub is a steak guy and has been takin me out for steaks since we were dating.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MnM1130 on January 05, 2012, 06:41:16 PM
which hechsher would that be? (for gabriel)
כשרות מהדרין של בד"ץ בית יוסף
not sure what means to each person...
http://www.gabriel-jerusalem.co.il/pages/home.php
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on January 05, 2012, 08:58:05 PM
I just ate tonight in a place called ShushCafe on Keren Kayemet. It's milchig and the hechsher is Chug Chasam Sofer PT (though it is also under a new hechsher run by one of the biggest mashgichim in the business). The food was excellent and the atmosphere was great. I would say a cross between a classic Tel Aviv cafe and a little Manhattan feel (as far as clientele). Nina's will never recreate such an ambiance, though I know they'd love to. The service was very attentive too - so unIsraeli.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on January 05, 2012, 09:26:25 PM
כשרות מהדרין של בד"ץ בית יוסף
not sure what means to each person...
http://www.gabriel-jerusalem.co.il/pages/home.php
i wouldnt go broadcasting that hechsher, i did a lot of research into this restaurant and it is compareable to rabbinut yerushalayim. their "mashgiach" was never there- making it a big problem as well
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
go to waffle bar if ur lukin for milchigs- amazing!!! they just opened a mehadrin place on beit hadfus (near harnof) (i ate in both mehadrin and not and they were both the same good)
What's the hechsher?  A waffle bar...sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on January 05, 2012, 11:19:35 PM
i wouldnt go broadcasting that hechsher, i did a lot of research into this restaurant and it is compareable to rabbinut yerushalayim. their "mashgiach" was never there- making it a big problem as well
youre probably referring to the bogus hashgacha they used to have. m &m is suggesting that they just got a real one. im not recommending bd"tz b"y, merely pointing out the difference
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on January 05, 2012, 11:19:54 PM
What's the hechsher?  A waffle bar...sounds good to me!
you coming anytime soon?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2012, 11:26:21 PM
you coming anytime soon?
No plans, but someone did give me a free LY ticket.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on January 05, 2012, 11:32:28 PM
No plans, but someone did give me a free LY ticket.
1? now thats a vacation!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2012, 11:33:27 PM
1? now thats a vacation!
Lol, yup 1, in whY.
Fly in for waffle bar, some ben and jerrys, and a philly steak sandwich from cafe rimon and fly back?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on January 05, 2012, 11:53:11 PM
sounds like a plan....
as long as you have your qc15's y's alright...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on January 06, 2012, 04:59:43 AM
Lol, yup 1, in whY.
Fly in for waffle bar, some ben and jerrys, and a philly steak sandwich from cafe rimon and fly back?

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on January 06, 2012, 07:03:52 AM
the phily steak sandwich in rimon is not good anymore... I tried it the last few times I was there and its just not the same anymore
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on January 06, 2012, 11:17:03 AM
the phily steak sandwich in rimon is not good anymore... I tried it the last few times I was there and its just not the same anymore

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Haven't had it since '09 as they were closed when I was there in '10.  How could they kill something so great?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 07, 2012, 09:19:44 AM
Best sushi spot in J'lem, anyone?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on February 07, 2012, 01:12:28 PM
Best sushi spot in J'lem, anyone?
Don't know about best, but most generous (portion wise), and best priced I've had is Osaka To Go. Chasam Sofer Petach Tikva.
osaka.co.il (http://osaka.co.il)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 07, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
how does it compare to viva la sushi?

either way i think he was looking for the best dine in option
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on February 07, 2012, 01:47:52 PM
how does it compare to viva la sushi?

either way i think he was looking for the best dine in option
They have some tables, but def not a dinner type atmosphere. As for Viva, I've never even heard of it. Maybe next DO
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on February 07, 2012, 02:04:36 PM
Best sushi spot in J'lem, anyone?
i think taiku is pretty good
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 07, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
They have some tables, but def not a dinner type atmosphere. As for Viva, I've never even heard of it. Maybe next DO
i didnt realize osaka was dine in. osaka to go sounds like a delivery place. where is it located?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 07, 2012, 02:07:56 PM
i think taiku is pretty good
didnt it switch over?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2012, 02:08:55 PM
i think taiku is pretty good
I can understand that's the response for how xyz person can be moshiach, but to asked Eliyahu about the best sushi?
;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on February 07, 2012, 02:16:29 PM
didnt it switch over?
Yes it is (as of last I checked) regular Rabbinite. I even won a charge back for a groupon.co.il because it still said mehadrin on their site.

Frankly wasn't a big fan of their sushi anyway
i didnt realize osaka was dine in. osaka to go sounds like a delivery place. where is it located?
past the wedding halls across the street from Osher Ad. It's a bit hard to find
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 07, 2012, 04:07:34 PM
Thanks for your replies. Do the Hashgachos here not allow kani to be used, or is it an import issue? Kind of limits the options.

Don't know about best, but most generous (portion wise), and best priced I've had is Osaka To Go. Chasam Sofer Petach Tikva.
osaka.co.il (http://osaka.co.il)

Where are they located?

either way i think he was looking for the best dine in option

Not necessarily.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 07, 2012, 04:15:39 PM
Frankly wasn't a big fan of their sushi anywaypast the wedding halls across the street from Osher Ad. It's a bit hard to find
where? which area?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on February 07, 2012, 04:16:13 PM
Where are they located?
Past the wedding halls across the street from Osher Ad. It's a bit hard to find
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on February 07, 2012, 04:18:53 PM
where? which area?
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=31.786775,+35.183254&num=1&t=h&vpsrc=0&ie=UTF8&ll=31.786488,35.183737&spn=0.002731,0.004823&z=18&iwloc=A

The green arrow, not the red A
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 07, 2012, 04:20:56 PM
Kanfei Nesharim 23 would have sufficed
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 07, 2012, 04:28:17 PM
Past the wedding halls across the street from Osher Ad. It's a bit hard to find

Thanks, I'll check them out.

Kanfei Nesharim 23 would have sufficed
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on February 07, 2012, 05:03:27 PM
Kanfei Nesharim 23 would have sufficed
It's not Kanfei Nesharim 23. as I said green arrow, not red A
Google just put in the closest address it knew
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 14, 2012, 01:33:54 PM
It's not Kanfei Nesharim 23. as I said green arrow, not red A
Google just put in the closest address it knew

Found it, thanks.

It's a bit hard to find

More than a bit, although your map is very accurate. For anyone looking for the place in the future, look for Armonot Wolf (wedding hall), this is one building behind it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on February 14, 2012, 02:11:42 PM
Found it, thanks.

More than a bit, although your map is very accurate. For anyone looking for the place in the future, look for Armonot Wolf (wedding hall), this is one building behind it.
What did you think of the place?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 14, 2012, 02:45:13 PM
Quite good, although I had to wait a while, and there was too much rice on the roll. I still don't understand why the Israeli places have such limited menus
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 14, 2012, 08:12:11 PM
.....I still don't understand why the Israeli places have such limited menus

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: David B on February 14, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
....I still don't understand why the Israeli places have such limited menus
Must be related to the Israeli tendency to use as few words as possible...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 15, 2012, 02:57:44 PM
and there was too much rice on the roll.
waaaay too much rice
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 15, 2012, 06:03:58 PM
thoughts on entrecote in jerusalem?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 15, 2012, 06:07:47 PM
thoughts on entrecote in jerusalem?
Dont like it. Some say meat is good, I disagree. The ambience is very Israeli - like a felafel shop, but the price are more on par with MOdern/Keyara etc. Good kashers though. Friend recommends the T-Bone if you go
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2012, 06:08:26 PM
Some say meat is good.
Hang on, there's good meat in Israel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 15, 2012, 06:27:31 PM
Hang on, there's good meat in Israel?
Just had a great Asado at Keyara (special, not on the menu). B'H I eat out all the time, but I'm really not a meiven so I wouldn't know. I've heard mostly from Israelis its good.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 15, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
Just had a great Asado at Keyara (special, not on the menu). B'H I eat out all the time, but I'm really not a meiven so I wouldn't know. I've heard mostly from Israelis its good.
thats one strange comment
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 15, 2012, 06:31:04 PM
thoughts on entrecote in jerusalem?
its a fine restaurant. more expensive than sheyan or modern
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on February 15, 2012, 06:50:25 PM
now that its under rubin and not machpud the meat is really bad but way overpriced, i only got chicken when i went there
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 15, 2012, 06:53:42 PM
if they have it, go for the lamb catef (mevushal, not grilled) its quite good. (sorry, i forgot how to speak english)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 16, 2012, 12:23:47 PM
if they have it, go for the lamb catef (mevushal, not grilled) its quite good. (sorry, i forgot how to speak english)

lamb shoulder...was very good..thanks!

What are your thoughts on Modern? What does dinner for 2 run (appx.) there?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 16, 2012, 04:51:12 PM
i can recommend the beef carpaccio and the entrecote.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 16, 2012, 04:55:43 PM
i can recommend the beef carpaccio and the entrecote.

nice, what's it run for 2 for dinner appx.?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 16, 2012, 05:19:34 PM
not sure
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2012, 07:07:50 AM
nice, what's it run for 2 for dinner appx.?
about 150 nis per person
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 17, 2012, 07:39:54 AM
sounds about right
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2012, 07:45:45 AM
sounds about right
I thought he was still on Entercote> Modern will be under 100 if you don't eat too many aooetizers and stuff. 120-30 max. They have a greta business lunch thats 55 for a drink, soup, sandwich
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 17, 2012, 07:50:12 AM
I thought he was still on Entercote> Modern will be under 100 if you don't eat too many aooetizers and stuff. 120-30 max. They have a greta business lunch thats 55 for a drink, soup, sandwich
100 is a stretch
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 18, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
so 250 nis for 2?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
so 250 nis for 2?
theyre closed now if you're thinking about it... but yes. they're only open for dinner on tuesday and thursday. other days they close at 5. on Thursday they have a Jazz and wine tasting event - I've never been so IDK if it has women singing or something like that
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 18, 2012, 01:19:23 PM
theyre closed now if you're thinking about it... but yes. they're only open for dinner on tuesday and thursday. other days they close at 5. on Thursday they have a Jazz and wine tasting event - I've never been so IDK if it has women singing or something like that

thanks for letting me know...interesting that they are only open for dinner 2x a week
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
thanks for letting me know...interesting that they are only open for dinner 2x a week
it was very empty when they were open at night, their primary business is for visitors to the museum. On tuesday the museum opens later and closes later.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 18, 2012, 02:18:08 PM
theyre closed now if you're thinking about it... but yes. they're only open for dinner on tuesday and thursday. other days they close at 5. on Thursday they have a Jazz and wine tasting event - I've never been so IDK if it has women singing or something like that
i didnt realize that. it must be a relatively new development. their problem is that they dont advertise.
and the jazz is just jazz, no singers, however it was a bit loud so we ate outsid. (still ble to hear, but lower)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2012, 02:19:39 PM
i didnt realize that. it must be a relatively new development. their problem is that they dont advertise.
and the jazz is just jazz, no singers, however it was a bit loud so we ate outsid. (still ble to hear, but lower)
howabout the wine tasting part?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 18, 2012, 02:31:23 PM
howabout the wine tasting part?
wasnt there for it
but about opening times, their website doesnt reflect what youve said
http://modernen.conceptsite.co.il/sitefiles/1/6369/48098.asp
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2012, 02:40:31 PM
wasnt there for it
but about opening times, their website doesnt reflect what youve said
http://modernen.conceptsite.co.il/sitefiles/1/6369/48098.asp
I tried going many times and it was closed, heres what they told me
(http://i44.tinypic.com/xcolec.png)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 26, 2012, 05:36:43 PM
I want to drive from Jerusalem to Kiryat Sefer...I can either take Route 1 there or take the 443 which they say isn't as safe as the High Court struck down the rule last year which only allowed Israelis to use it.

I don't mind an extra 5-10 minutes of driving in the name of safety....

What is safer? Is the 443 a problem?

TIA
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on February 26, 2012, 05:49:48 PM
i constantly take the 443 without incident. i have yet to see a green license plate
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on February 26, 2012, 05:53:17 PM
i constantly take the 443 without incident. i have yet to see a green license plate

thanks!

I read that while the high court allowed green license plates to drive on the 443, it was only in the local areas and not until jerusalem w/o a special permit in addition to the special checkpoints they put up
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: stever on February 26, 2012, 08:22:47 PM
lived in jerusalem for 4 years took 443 dozens of time day or night
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yid on February 26, 2012, 09:28:45 PM
I want to drive from Jerusalem to Kiryat Sefer...I can either take Route 1 there or take the 443 which they say isn't as safe as the High Court struck down the rule last year which only allowed Israelis to use it.

I don't mind an extra 5-10 minutes of driving in the name of safety....

What is safer? Is the 443 a problem?

TIA
about 10 years ago the 443 used to be dangerous. today it is safe. Although the israeli supreme court allowed "palestinian" drivers to use it, that is only for a small stretch of it, and the israeli security checks the arabs at the checkpoint, so that practically it does not pay for them to use the road, and they use their own local village roads instead.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sky121 on May 21, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
In your opinion where's the best place in Israel for shakshuka?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: JEWDA on May 21, 2012, 11:43:51 PM
In my opinion the best place is...

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: smurf on May 22, 2012, 12:11:43 AM
lol
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sky121 on May 22, 2012, 08:06:13 AM
In my opinion the best place is...

:)
Ok..ok.. any suggestions though?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 22, 2012, 08:30:52 AM
i think that joke went over my head. am i the only one that didnt get it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 22, 2012, 08:33:29 AM
i think that joke went over my head. am i the only one that didnt get it?
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on May 22, 2012, 08:37:18 AM
+1
+2
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sky121 on May 22, 2012, 08:53:23 AM
+1

It's because the original thread got put here ... so you missed the title..
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on May 23, 2012, 07:17:54 PM
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=128277
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on May 24, 2012, 11:37:33 AM
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/article.php?p=128277

saw this...seems very strange....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on May 28, 2012, 06:49:11 PM
saw this...seems very strange....
would love more info on this....
And btw, on which hechsher did you guys rely on until now?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 11, 2012, 01:33:27 AM
Was @ Modern yesterday. They have a new Modern 'Express' menu. I noticed the roast beef sandwhich is now officially hot, and reduced to 45. (Not sure if it still includes soup & drink). There are few other items on the lunch menu at that price range.

Value is amazing IMHO.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 02:32:38 AM
Was @ Modern yesterday. They have a new Modern 'Express' menu. I noticed the roast beef sandwhich is now officially hot, and reduced to 45. (Not sure if it still includes soup & drink). There are few other items on the lunch menu at that price range.

Value is amazing IMHO.

Location? Hechsher?  Thanks!

BTW, IMHO the soup and drink included, would make a big difference value-wise.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 11, 2012, 02:38:46 AM
Israel Museum. OU Israel. Contrary to their website, they close daily at 17:30 except for TUE & THU.

My favorite mehadrin place in J'lem.

Don't get the salad - its just a bunch of lettuce.

Desserts are expensive and horrible.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 02:44:18 AM
Israel Museum. OU Israel. Contrary to their website, they close daily at 17:30 except for TUE & THU.

My favorite mehadrin place in J'lem.

Don't get the salad - its just a bunch of lettuce.

Desserts are expensive and horrible.

It's inside the museum? Isn't that a somewhat out of the way?  At least 15 min. Walk from Gan Socher, no?

You need to pay museum admission?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 11, 2012, 02:47:13 AM
It's inside the museum? Isn't that a somewhat out of the way?  At least 15 min. Walk from Gan Socher, no? On the way to the knesset..

You need to pay museum admission?
The 'way' is not an objective definition. Its less than 5 minutes from the Wolfson towers, and the walk is pretty. Plenty of parking.

Not only do u not have to pay admission, I've even managed to visit the museum for free afterwards. (Due to ethical issues I walked promptly out).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 02:55:45 AM
The 'way' is not an objective definition. Its less than 5 minutes from the Wolfson towers, and the walk is pretty. Plenty of parking.

Not only do u not have to pay admissio n, I've even managed to visit the museum for free afterwards. (Due to ethical issues I walked promptly out).
Good to know there's a free method to see the dead sea scrolls!  ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 11, 2012, 06:12:25 AM
-There is no longer soup. Biz lunch come w a lump of lettuce & lemonade.
-there are quite a few items for  45. Hamburgers, chicken salad, wings, etc. I can certify the chicken and beef sandwhichs are great.
-There is no time limitation on these 45 shekel items, and they are served at night too.
-The 45 shekel option do not incl lettuce & lemonade
 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 11, 2012, 06:26:43 AM
-There is no longer soup. Biz lunch come w a lump of lettuce & lemonade.
-there are quite a few items for  45. Hamburgers, chicken salad, wings, etc. I can certify the chicken and beef sandwhichs are great.
-There is no time limitation on these 45 shekel items, and they are served at night too.
-The 45 shekel option do not incl lettuce & lemonade
So all you get for 45 NIS is a sandwich? :-[
No soup? Drink? ehhh..
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 12, 2012, 03:01:41 AM
Israel Museum. OU Israel. Contrary to their website, they close daily at 17:30 except for TUE & THU.

My favorite mehadrin place in J'lem.

Don't get the salad - its just a bunch of lettuce.

Desserts are expensive and horrible.

Anything Mehadrin in TLV (come to think of it, both, the city & airport)?
(of course with high [quality] food, and low prices, ya know, this is DDF after all  ;))
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 12, 2012, 03:18:38 AM
Alternativ is a nice decent cafe (a la Rimon).

Deca is a high end dairy place, but prices are quite reasonable (my Dad thought prices were in USD). Probably the best experience I ever had at a restaurant, but I'm not the typical foodie.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aarony on June 12, 2012, 10:18:06 AM
anyone know of good place for horseback riding in netanya - i heard there are places that will take you riding on the beach...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 12, 2012, 12:33:07 PM
anyone know of good place for horseback riding in netanya - i heard there are places that will take you riding on the beach...
AFAIK there's only 1 place.

Its called the cactus ranch. Cost over 100 nis per person.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aarony on June 12, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
have you done it? i don't mind the price if it is a nice ride...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 12, 2012, 01:23:07 PM
have you done it? i don't mind the price if it is a nice ride...
5 times or so. It was nice the first time, afterwards it gets a bit boring.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aarony on June 12, 2012, 01:44:01 PM
thanks - it will be a first time for us!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 12, 2012, 03:02:55 PM
thanks - it will be a first time for us!
Enjoy! You should call in advance. Shouldn't be so hard to get a private tour for you.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on June 13, 2012, 04:22:31 PM
Any Fleishig mehadrin places to eat in Tveria?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 19, 2012, 04:56:09 AM
Might be interested in a lunch DO today
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 21, 2012, 07:15:11 AM
B'h Modern finally replaced their salad. It now comes with 2 pecans and some nice dressing. I'm not being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on June 21, 2012, 08:27:06 AM
they used to have a good lentil side
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 21, 2012, 08:29:58 AM
I'm talking abt the free 'salad' that comes w a biz lunch
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 24, 2012, 01:01:30 PM
As for Viva, I've never even heard of it.

Sure you have... that's the person in my building who makes sushi for a living. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on June 24, 2012, 01:02:40 PM
Any decent Sesame Chicken in this country?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on June 24, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
Good to know there's a free method to see the dead sea scrolls!  ;)
Every few months, admission to most museums is free for one reason or another (such as International Museum Day).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on June 24, 2012, 04:12:42 PM
Any decent Sesame Chicken in this country?

Besides for the one my wife makes...?  :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 24, 2012, 04:34:17 PM
Besides for the one my wife makes...?  :P
They say beis yisroel has some decent, I'm not into it though.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 24, 2012, 07:23:17 PM
Every few months, admission to most museums is free for one reason or another (such as International Museum Day).
::) Oh really?  Which day is that?  I think I'm gonna fly in just for that! ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on June 25, 2012, 06:40:48 AM
::) Oh really?  Which day is that?  I think I'm gonna fly in just for that! ;D
IMO, that's not worth it since the cost of the airfare is much higher than the regular cost of museum admission.
But when you're here anyhow, it's worth checking into.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 25, 2012, 08:43:37 AM
It's only rabbnut, but Sushi Rechavia has great sushi. The place on Aza is clean & nice.
Open daily until 00:00 motse from 1hr after shabbos.

Prices way better than sheyan.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on June 25, 2012, 09:20:52 AM
Maxin has great sushi for great price!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 25, 2012, 10:35:21 AM
It's only rabbnut, but Sushi Rechavia has great sushi. The place on Aza is clean & nice.
Open daily until 00:00 motse from 1hr after shabbos.

Prices way better than sheyan.

I didn't enjoy it that much...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmooz on June 25, 2012, 10:39:03 AM
in the old city for shabbos, where can I park?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 25, 2012, 12:27:19 PM
IMO, that's not worth it since the cost of the airfare is much higher than the regular cost of museum admission.
But when you're here anyhow, it's worth checking into.
Reuven, it's interesting you only wrote "IMO", cuz really I thought it may be worth it.

Did you really think so?!  :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 25, 2012, 12:28:43 PM
in the old city for shabbos, where can I park?
Near Zion gate.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on June 25, 2012, 01:16:05 PM
Reuven, it's interesting you only wrote "IMO", cuz really I thought it may be worth it.

Did you really think so?!  :D

I wouldn't dare try to decide what is best for you. Hence the IMO.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmooz on June 25, 2012, 01:19:20 PM
Near Zion gate.

 thanks, that's near the diaspora yeshiva,  i've been there, how does it work there, park and pay till shabbos starts?

and if its full, what's the next best? mamilla and walk from there?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 25, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
Near Zion gate.
thanks, that's near the diaspora yeshiva,  i've been there, how does it work there, park and pay till shabbos starts?

and if its full, what's the next best? mamilla and walk from there?

"near Zion gate" I mean inside the walls, outside the walls, on the street, in the parking lots.......

That area seems to me to have the best parking in the old city.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 30, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
Waffle Bar in R Eshkol, rubin.

Trying a very Israeli sounding grilled Laffe & Cheese...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 01, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
Waffle Bar in R Eshkol, rubin.

Trying a very Israeli sounding grilled Laffe & Cheese...

How was it? I think it's a pretty good place...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 01, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
Coffee was excellent. Place is cute. Waffles looked good, but I didn't eat any. Don't buy these toasted laffes.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 02, 2012, 03:48:47 AM
It's only rabbnut, but Sushi Rechavia has great sushi. The place on Aza is clean & nice.
Open daily until 00:00 motse from 1hr after shabbos.

Prices way better than sheyan.
what hechsherim?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 04:17:43 AM
what hechsherim?
Rabbnit J'lem, not mehadrin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 02, 2012, 04:42:13 AM
Coffee was excellent. Place is cute. Waffles looked good, but I didn't eat any. Don't buy these toasted laffes.

nothing Fancy
Good place for a coffee .

here http://www.rol.co.il/sites/wafel-bar2/coupons.html (http://www.rol.co.il/sites/wafel-bar2/coupons.html) you have a coupon for second breakfast for 50%
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 02, 2012, 05:00:00 AM
Waffle Bar in R Eshkol, rubin.

Trying a very Israeli sounding grilled Laffe & Cheese...
cute place, food was nice

Are there any mehadrin sushi places left in the country (not Maxine)? Sushiya dropping their hecsher was a big blow, they had really good sushi
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 05:02:21 AM
Sheyan, RYU & perhaps also Teiku.

There's a place on Azza called Beijing that's Mehadrin, the hechesher says its from בית המדרש למשגיחי כשרות
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 02, 2012, 08:01:40 AM
about 10 years ago the 443 used to be dangerous. today it is safe. Although the israeli supreme court allowed "palestinian" drivers to use it, that is only for a small stretch of it, and the israeli security checks the arabs at the checkpoint, so that practically it does not pay for them to use the road, and they use their own local village roads instead.

I drive/ride that road very often...

It is still a bit dangerous, there have been (rare) recent incidents of rock throwing, near the gas station on the J'lem bound side.

I would say it is safer of a ride than highway 1. It is straighter, less dangerous curves as opposed to Kvish 1 which has more accidents. Of course it is safer if you are driving to Kiryat SEFER!  :P (Thanks AYM for the pun 12.5 years ago)

Drive safely!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 02, 2012, 12:01:11 PM
Anywhere to daven Mincha/Maariv near the TLV Sheraton?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 12:29:19 PM
Anywhere to daven Mincha/Maariv near the TLV Sheraton?
I heard Bnei Brak is close by

(there's a shul somewhere, don't have details)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 02, 2012, 01:16:28 PM
I drive/ride that road very often...

It is still a bit dangerous, there have been (rare) recent incidents of rock throwing, near the gas station on the J'lem bound side.

I would say it is safer of a ride than highway 1. It is straighter, less dangerous curves as opposed to Kvish 1 which has more accidents. Of course it is safer if you are driving to Kiryat SEFER!  :P (Thanks AYM for the pun 12.5 years ago)

Drive safely!!
it soon gonna be full of traffic after they start construction on the 1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: world2see on July 02, 2012, 04:37:41 PM
Anywhere to daven Mincha/Maariv near the TLV Sheraton?
in hotel deborah there's a shul,all daily minyanim  http://www.godaven.com/detail.asp?Id=6017&Name=tel%20aviv     also shivat zion   http://www.godaven.com/detail.asp?Id=6863&Name=tel%20aviv
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on July 02, 2012, 08:38:09 PM
I drive/ride that road very often...

It is still a bit dangerous, there have been (rare) recent incidents of rock throwing, near the gas station on the J'lem bound side.

I would say it is safer of a ride than highway 1. It is straighter, less dangerous curves as opposed to Kvish 1 which has more accidents. Of course it is safer if you are driving to Kiryat SEFER!  :P (Thanks AYM for the pun 12.5 years ago)

Drive safely!!
There was a car jacking there a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 03, 2012, 01:14:59 AM
There was a car jacking there a few weeks ago.

car jacking happens all the time.
i us to drive on this road 2wice a day , no problem.
the big מעלה on this road is the usually there is no traffic police on this road
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 03, 2012, 03:10:35 AM
Wow, I did not hear about the car jacking. What happened?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 03, 2012, 03:34:57 AM
I heard Bnei Brak is close by

(there's a shul somewhere, don't have details)

I was in Bnei Brak a while ago. They have 3 shuls, at least!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 03, 2012, 05:41:45 AM
Wow, I did not hear about the car jacking. What happened?
Guy picked up hitchhikers, they threw him out of car after hitting him
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 03, 2012, 05:52:41 AM
Guy picked up hitchhikers, they threw him out of car after hitting him

Arab?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 03, 2012, 07:28:35 AM
Arab?
Good one!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 04, 2012, 05:59:42 PM
Beijing is excellent asian food, but no sushi. For more info on the hechsher, pm me ( I was a little involved).
Last night was my first time at the new Waffle Bar in Ramat Eshkol (Rubin hechsher) and all agreed that the food was very good and nicely presented. 3 out of four mains were very good (Italian foccacia, spaghetti and stirfry salad , one we didn't care for (a salty crepe). The milkshake was enjoyed and the Iced coffee with (fake) Bailey's was delicious.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on July 04, 2012, 11:38:48 PM
But how are their waffles ???
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 05, 2012, 02:25:19 AM
But how are their waffles ???
There was a shtikel DO yesterday, dreadful IMHO
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 05, 2012, 08:38:52 AM
There was a shtikel DO yesterday, dreadful IMHO

What are you talking about?
The DO or the waffles?

Anyone have any good ideas of what to do/where to go for a tenth anniversary? I am looking for a short trip or something, near Yerushalayim or Bnei Brak or in between.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 05, 2012, 09:35:24 AM
I heard Bnei Brak is close by

(there's a shul somewhere, don't have details)

Really? There are chareidim living in Bnei Brak?! ;)

Seriously, though, I meant within walking distance...

in hotel deborah there's a shul,all daily minyanim  http://www.godaven.com/detail.asp?Id=6017&Name=tel%20aviv     also shivat zion   http://www.godaven.com/detail.asp?Id=6863&Name=tel%20aviv

Thanks!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 05, 2012, 09:37:04 AM
There was a shtikel DO yesterday

So why wasn't I invited? :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 05, 2012, 09:38:02 AM
Tel Aviv update: the Cafe Cafe in the Azrieli Mall has upgraded from plain Rabbanut to Mehadrin. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 10:18:51 AM
IMO, the Caffit at the Botanical Gardens is great. Their salad with the sweet potato fries are delicious, and I've been happy with everything I've eaten there.

Beit Avi Chai is decent. Very happy with the breakfast buffet. Iffy with the lunch quasi buffet.

Used half off coupons both times I've been there.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 05, 2012, 12:11:47 PM
What are you talking about?
The DO or the waffles?

Waffels. DO was awesome. It was an imprompto short coffee and 'petrol' stop, but turned into 6 hrs...

IMO, the Caffit at the Botanical Gardens is great. Their salad with the sweet potato fries are delicious, and I've been happy with everything I've eaten there.

Beit Avi Chai is decent. Very happy with the breakfast buffet. Iffy with the lunch quasi buffet.

Used half off coupons both times I've been there.
Both rabbanut. Kaffit is at an excellent location.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 12:40:53 PM

 Both rabbanut. Kaffit is at an excellent location.
I thought that Avi Chai was OU.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 05, 2012, 12:42:38 PM
I thought that Avi Chai was OU.
Nice to know, thx
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 12:50:52 PM
Nice to know, thx
But wait for a half off coupon...

I should start posting more restaruant reviews. The Mrs. and I try to go out once a week to places in the area.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 05, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
Anyone have any good ideas of what to do/where to go for a tenth anniversary? I am looking for a short trip or something, near Yerushalayim or Bnei Brak or in between.

Thanks!

IMO, the Caffit at the Botanical Gardens is great. Their salad with the sweet potato fries are delicious, and I've been happy with everything I've eaten there.

Beit Avi Chai is decent. Very happy with the breakfast buffet. Iffy with the lunch quasi buffet.

are these places in reply to my seeking ideas for anniversary or stam good eating out places? I am looking more for a small nice trip, drive, park etc.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 04:06:09 PM
are these places in reply to my seeking ideas for anniversary or stam good eating out places? I am looking more for a small nice trip, drive, park etc.

Kaffit would be nice since you can combine it with a romantic walk through the Botanical Gardens, although I wasn't intending that when I wrote the post.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 05, 2012, 05:50:30 PM
There's a mehadrin Cafe Cafe at the Dead sea now. HT dealer.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 05, 2012, 06:09:01 PM
There's a mehadrin Cafe Cafe at the Dead sea now. HT dealer.
yup, over a year now.

Cafe Cafe just opened a branch at the Dead Sea and I spoke with the Mashgiach to ascertain its' kashrus status. For the benefit of the DDF world, I'm posting the information I received here.

Don't necessarily accept this as a conclusive recommendation to eat there and as always, ask your LOR.

Officially, the restaurant (it's a dairy one) is Mehadrin under the local Rabbanut. For those who aren't familiar w/ the local kashrus scene, legally a restaurant is required to have a local certification from the Rabbanut even if they have a national one e.g. Eidah or Rubin etc; Hence, you will see plenty of establishments w/ two.

The Mashgiach said that the vegetables are all Eidah Chareidis w/ the greens under R' Efrati. The fish is under Rubin and Eidah. The milk and cheeses are Mehadrin.

If you're so inclined, you can call the restaurant at 08-658-1688 and ask for the Mashgiach.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 05, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
Ouch!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 05, 2012, 06:17:26 PM
edah chareidis vegetables at the dead sea? i wonder how thats possible...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 05, 2012, 06:21:12 PM
are these places in reply to my seeking ideas for anniversary or stam good eating out places? I am looking more for a small nice trip, drive, park etc.

Tel Aviv , 2C
http://www.2-c.co.il
it's azriely tower top floor , make the rsvr for the window table.
at the sunset it's amazing , then later you can go to the beach of tel aviv , etc.

personally i love the place is one + if you want to go out to a place with out Frum ppl watching your back , this is the place.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on July 05, 2012, 06:24:32 PM
Tel Aviv update: the Cafe Cafe in the Azrieli Mall has upgraded from plain Rabbanut to Mehadrin. :)

Major upgrade  ::)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on July 05, 2012, 06:28:06 PM
are these places in reply to my seeking ideas for anniversary or stam good eating out places? I am looking more for a small nice trip, drive, park etc.

There is a beautiful park in ramat gan it's called Gan Hayarkon it's not so far from El Gaucho.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 05, 2012, 06:29:01 PM
Major upgrade  ::)
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 06:44:27 PM
+1
They all have problems and scandals.
http://lifeinisrael.blogspot.co.il/2011/01/eidas-kashrus-scandal.html

Regardless, this guy runs a good website giving kashrus tips and updates. He used to give shuk tours, b/c there's a lot of kashrus trickery there as well.
http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on July 05, 2012, 06:48:54 PM
They all have problems and scandals.
http://lifeinisrael.blogspot.co.il/2011/01/eidas-kashrus-scandal.html


Oh Reuven,

So some very "trustworthy" blog says the Eidah is not good, therefore since I can't get "no scandal kosher" anywhere I might as well eat by a deffinitly not good hechsher. Makes alot of sense being your from the "rationalists".
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 06:51:42 PM
Oh Reuven,

So some very trustworthy blog says the eidah is not good, therefore since I can't get no scandal kosher anywhere I might as well eat by a deffinitly not good hechsher. Makes alot of sense being your from the "rationalists".

Not saying its not a very good hechsher. I'm sure its great, and I even eat their products at times :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 05, 2012, 06:52:08 PM
Oh Reuven,

So some very "trustworthy" blog says the Eidah is not good, therefore since I can't get "no scandal kosher" anywhere I might as well eat by a deffinitly not good hechsher. Makes alot of sense being your from the "rationalists".

 http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17530.msg250857.msg#250857 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17530.msg250857.msg#250857)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on July 05, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
Not saying its not a very good hechsher. I'm sure its great, and I even eat their products at times :)

Dosen't say much  ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 05, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
Dosen't say much  ;)
Is it as late for you as it is for me? If so, let's agree to both go to sleep. I have shachris in 5 hrs.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 06, 2012, 11:07:55 AM
But how are their waffles ???
I didn't care for them. Those I was with were happy. The ice cream and toppings were good, the waffle itself, meh.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on July 06, 2012, 11:09:37 AM
You'd think they'd try to excel at that.

Cafe Rimon's Belgian Waffle is outstanding IMHO.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 06, 2012, 11:13:35 AM
The place is subpar & expensive.  Very comfortable chairs & good coffee are still something though.
Others seem to like their waffles though.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 07, 2012, 03:15:21 PM
The place is subpar & expensive.  Very comfortable chairs & good coffee are still something though.
Others seem to like their waffles though.

Rimon or Nina's - er, Waffle Bar? ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 07, 2012, 03:17:39 PM
Food/dring is beyond doubt better at rimon, however I dislike rimon because its very crowded (especially on motzash. Waffle bar is def better for a conversation
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 07, 2012, 03:51:03 PM
Food/dring is beyond doubt better at rimon, however I dislike rimon because its very crowded (especially on motzash. Waffle bar is def better for a conversation
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 07, 2012, 05:01:06 PM
Best place for breakfast IMO is Greg Coffee in Mamilla. Generous portions, interesting dips, quiet location, and great desserts.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 08, 2012, 05:37:28 AM
Best place for breakfast IMO is Greg Coffee in Mamilla. Generous portions, interesting dips, quiet location, and great desserts.


Some days the parking there is fulllllll
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 08, 2012, 05:53:19 AM
You'd think they'd try to excel at that.

Cafe Rimon's Belgian Waffle is outstanding IMHO.


I was eating by Ramon almost every day  , if you look on the big picture there is much better places with much better service and food .

For example : the salmon cost about 78 shekel , small cut look like was taking from a fish on diet , wait 25 min to 45 min

I decided to switch to somewhere else

Then when ever I was in the mood of salmon I went to Sushi Japanika in SHlomtzion st.
Better parking , faster and much more friendly service (updated playlist ) and the salmon is 65 shekel and you get a huge cut ,And you never have your neighbor sitting there listening to your conversation  the only problem is that to guarantee a seat you need to make reservation


Lately thy switch the menu and I don't like the way thy done the salmon

this is just one example , there is amazing places and cafe RImon is not one of them
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2012, 05:56:15 AM
All I said is that Rimon's Belgian Waffle dessert (which comes with with Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream) is outstanding...I vouch for nothing else on the menu.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 08, 2012, 05:56:36 AM
Israel Museum. OU Israel. Contrary to their website, they close daily at 17:30 except for TUE & THU.

My favorite mehadrin place in J'lem.

Don't get the salad - its just a bunch of lettuce.

Desserts are expensive and horrible.


One of my favorites.
Like the audience better then the food , the main curse is the only thing worth worth the price
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 08, 2012, 05:57:33 AM
All I said is that Rimon's Belgian Waffle dessert (which comes with with Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream) is outstanding...I vouch for nothing else on the menu.


+1


And the fruit salad
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 08, 2012, 06:14:47 AM
Israel Museum. OU Israel. Contrary to their website, they close daily at 17:30 except for TUE & THU.

My favorite mehadrin place in J'lem.

Don't get the salad - its just a bunch of lettuce.

Desserts are expensive and horrible.

Just for clarification, which restaurant in the museum are u referring to?

They have 3: http://www.english.imjnet.org.il/htmls/page_1634.aspx?c0=15076&bsp=14393 (http://www.english.imjnet.org.il/htmls/page_1634.aspx?c0=15076&bsp=14393) (scroll down)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 08, 2012, 07:21:50 AM
Just for clarification, which restaurant in the museum are u referring to?

They have 3: http://www.english.imjnet.org.il/htmls/page_1634.aspx?c0=15076&bsp=14393 (http://www.english.imjnet.org.il/htmls/page_1634.aspx?c0=15076&bsp=14393) (scroll down)
Modern
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 08, 2012, 07:31:12 AM
Modern

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 08, 2012, 07:33:34 AM
How about the wine tasting Thursday night?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 08, 2012, 08:00:52 AM
Best place for breakfast IMO is Greg Coffee in Mamilla. Generous portions, interesting dips, quiet location, and great desserts.

+1,000,000

Been there so many times, we know the head chef on a first-name basis. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 08, 2012, 08:20:50 AM
+1,000,000

Been there so many times, we know the head chef on a first-name basis. ;)

Hechsher?

Tel Aviv , 2C
http://www.2-c.co.il
it's azriely tower top floor , make the rsvr for the window table.
at the sunset it's amazing , then later you can go to the beach of tel aviv , etc.

personally i love the place is one + if you want to go out to a place with out Frum ppl watching your back , this is the place.

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 08, 2012, 08:32:11 AM
Tel Aviv , 2C
http://www.2-c.co.il
it's azriely tower top floor , make the rsvr for the window table.
at the sunset it's amazing , then later you can go to the beach of tel aviv , etc.

personally i love the place is one + if you want to go out to a place with out Frum ppl watching your back , this is the place.

Hechsher?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 08, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
Hechsher?
03-608-1990 http://www.2-c.co.il/%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%A8-%D7%A7%D7%A9%D7%A8.htm (http://www.2-c.co.il/%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%A8-%D7%A7%D7%A9%D7%A8.htm)
As per phone conversation and their website, it is Kosher (TLV Rabbinate) but not Mehadrin.

On the phone they said that the minimum to order a table (can be done online) is a main course for each person.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 08, 2012, 09:16:52 AM
As per phone conversation and their website, it is Kosher (TLV Rabbinate) but not Mehadrin.

Shame...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 08, 2012, 03:01:50 PM
Yup, it looks like a nice place...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2012, 04:14:19 PM
Yup, it looks like a nice place...
.
which place are you talking about?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 08, 2012, 06:21:00 PM
.
which place are you talking about?

2c
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 09, 2012, 05:36:25 PM
Greg coffee mamilla hechsher?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 09, 2012, 05:56:19 PM
According to barmitzva.thekotel.org

Quote
Rabanut
Jerusalem
Mehadrin
02-625-4567
Mamilla-Alrov
Quarter
Café Greg
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 09, 2012, 06:18:27 PM
According to barmitzva.thekotel.org


Thanks for that. I thought it was mehadrin, since I saw a religious person eat there once.  :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 09, 2012, 06:43:51 PM
Thanks for that. I thought it was mehadrin, since I saw a religious person eat there once.  :)

Me? :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 09, 2012, 09:29:09 PM
Me? :D

no , me
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 10, 2012, 08:42:24 AM
Thanks for that. I thought it was mehadrin, since I saw a religious person eat there once.  :)

:) I assume that you are being sarcastic/funny, with the smile... ::) ;D :o 8)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 10, 2012, 09:50:16 AM
it appears that heimishe essen is no longer certified

http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/07/heimeshe-essen-19-keren-kayamet-lyisrael-street-jerusalem/
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 10, 2012, 10:43:06 AM
it appears that heimishe essen is no longer certified

http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/07/heimeshe-essen-19-keren-kayamet-lyisrael-street-jerusalem/
Some time ago I was gonna go there but after I heard that there's something going on about the hechsher I cancelled.
Good to hear what actually happened :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 10, 2012, 11:20:50 AM
it appears that heimishe essen is no longer certified

http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/07/heimeshe-essen-19-keren-kayamet-lyisrael-street-jerusalem/

Is this because of the waitress situation?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 10, 2012, 11:23:41 AM
Is this because of the waitress situation?
So true
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 10, 2012, 11:45:52 AM
Contrary to their previous statement, Modern does not serve their 'Express' menu after 17:00. Luckily there are exceptions for pax with Concierge Key status.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 10, 2012, 11:52:05 AM
:) I assume that you are being sarcastic/funny, with the smile... ::) ;D :o 8)
Correct, but I don't know how to make other types of smiles
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 10, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
Is this because of the waitress situation?
i cant imagine rabbanut has a problem with that
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 10, 2012, 01:21:04 PM
i cant imagine rabbanut has a problem with that

So it'll be like Hadar Geula (in the old days...)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 10, 2012, 01:52:33 PM
So it'll be like Hadar Geula (in the old days...)
Except here the waitress thing really comes into play, I wouldn't trust them
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 10, 2012, 02:04:52 PM
Waitress?
The hotel stickers issue.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 10, 2012, 02:06:25 PM
The hotel stickers issue.

??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 10, 2012, 02:12:21 PM
Is this because of the waitress situation?
??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 10, 2012, 02:23:52 PM
??

Ok, I'll go first...

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/jerusalem-eatery-cuts-back-on-female-help-to-meet-kashrut-restraints-1.418330 (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/jerusalem-eatery-cuts-back-on-female-help-to-meet-kashrut-restraints-1.418330)

http://www.bhol.co.il/Article.aspx?id=38978 (http://www.bhol.co.il/Article.aspx?id=38978)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 10, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
http://www.bhol.co.il/article.aspx?id=41875
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 11, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
250 sh for 125 sh at this Mehadrin (Agudas Yisroel) restaurant, Kayara.
http://www.groupon.co.il/deals/jerusalem-iw/.07NKoz

Anyone been here before?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 11, 2012, 09:27:07 AM
250 sh for 125 sh at this Mehadrin (Agudas Yisroel) restaurant, Kayara.
http://www.groupon.co.il/deals/jerusalem-iw/.07NKoz

Anyone been here before?

Been to Sheyan (same place, on top of Keyara, asian food) and was really nice.
Keyara is regular meaty and supposed to be very good.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
Keyara. 125 shekel for 250 credit. Up to twon coupons per table (each coupon up to two people). No other restrictions.

Keyara is one of the best mehadrin restaurants in J'lem.

Excellent deal. Belongs on the DD main page.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Ergel on July 11, 2012, 09:42:02 AM
Link?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 11, 2012, 09:44:29 AM
Link?
(http://www.rexirwin.com/artists/gallery_artists/bird/2012/images/56-Bird-Look-up-22x27cm-2011.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 11, 2012, 10:53:40 AM
Keyara. 125 shekel for 250 credit. Up to twon coupons per table (each coupon up to two people). No other restrictions.

Keyara is one of the best mehadrin restaurants in J'lem.

Excellent deal. Belongs on the DD main page.

Talk about stealing my thunder. Here I am, busting my butt to find you folks good deals, and you post it minutes after I do.
:)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 10:55:54 AM
Talk about stealing my thunder. Here I am, busting my butt to find you folks good deals, and you post it minutes after I do.
:)
I'm sorry! I got it from you, but originally u didn't write Keyara, so I clarified your post.

Thanks man!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 11, 2012, 02:30:01 PM
it expires in 3 and a half weeks.   9 days of 9 days in between.     about 2 weeks total to use it.        i didn't realize and bought too many, does groupon israel have the "groupon promise??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: myb821 on July 11, 2012, 02:43:45 PM
it expires in 3 and a half weeks.   9 days of 9 days in between.     about 2 weeks total to use it.        i didn't realize and bought too many, does groupon israel have the "groupon promise??
i may be willing to buy one form you depending on a few things what is the average pp at keyara?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 11, 2012, 02:51:14 PM
ou took off the hashgacha from joy on emek refaim
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 03:00:32 PM
i may be willing to buy one form you depending on a few things what is the average pp at keyara?
About 150

I may want to buy, Ill pm u. They have a nice salmon for the 9 days.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 03:02:21 PM
ou took off the hashgacha from joy on emek refaim
And I never tried it out :'(

Note to self: check out Moise before its gone.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 11, 2012, 04:57:51 PM
And I never tried it out :'(

Note to self: check out Moise before its gone.
didnt miss much. was there twice, both times horrible experience
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 11, 2012, 05:05:50 PM
what does agass ve'tapuach have these days?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 05:23:51 PM
Is that place in kikar safra? Excellent Pasta. Place was filthy though.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 11, 2012, 05:26:04 PM
Is that place in kikar safra? Excellent Pasta. Place was filthy though.
did you have homemade pasta?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 05:33:10 PM
did you have homemade pasta?
Nope. Is this an invitation?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 11, 2012, 06:01:30 PM
Is that place in kikar safra? Excellent Pasta. Place was filthy though.
yep,  trying to give it an authentic feel, heh
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 06:02:43 PM
yep,  trying to give it an authentic feel, heh
I had a very positive experience, but it's more like good food at a pizza shop than a romantic night IMHO.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 11, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
Nope. Is this an invitation?
neither did i, which is a bit of a letdown in a supposed authentic italian restaurant.

give me advance notice and ill pull out the pasta roller...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 11, 2012, 06:52:48 PM
neither did i, which is a bit of a letdown in a supposed authentic italian restaurant.

give me advance notice and ill pull out the pasta roller...
I thought home made as in home made. My bad. Angello used to make his own.

There's some homemade in a very small store on agripas called pasta italia.

Yare- my report is from over a year ago, so take w a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 11, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
I thought home made as in home made. My bad. Angello used to make his own.

There's some homemade in a very small store on agripas called pasta italia.

Yare- my report is from over a year ago, so take w a grain of salt.
i was there about that then as well
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 13, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
I don't think Ill ever understand the hashgocha situation in Israel.


lol ... easy.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 15, 2012, 03:18:45 PM
If you want "home made" pasta, try Luciano's on the Carlebach Moshav - Mevo / Meor Modi'im.

Here is a link with a good review, expresses my experience there pretty well. There is a coupon there for 10% off but you need to register ...

http://www.eluna.com/rest/Lucianos.asp?mumu=325&name=Luciano's

I ordered Fettuccine, it was great but it took time to get all the food prepared for me and my group. It was made from scratch, afaict. This was around 8 years ago.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 15, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
There is a coupon there for 10% off but you need to register ...

Username: eatkosher
Password: food
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 15, 2012, 04:43:24 PM
I ordered Fettuccine, it was great but it took time to get all the food prepared for me and my group. It was made from scratch, afaict. This was around 8 years ago.
homemade pasta needs to dry so that doesnt explain the long wait
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 16, 2012, 04:04:52 AM
homemade pasta needs to dry so that doesnt explain the long wait

Moish, can you explain?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 16, 2012, 04:07:07 AM
homemade pasta needs to dry so that doesnt explain the long wait
I'm still waiting...


give me advance notice and ill pull out the pasta roller...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 04:08:30 AM
after you roll out the fresh pasta, its gotta hang dry for a long time, so assuming the restaurant made it fresh, it would have to have been prepped from at least the morning

all i was saying that making pasta from scratch isnt an excuse to wait at a restaurant, since in all likelihood, they didnt roll it out while you were waiting
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 16, 2012, 04:22:38 AM
all i was saying that making pasta from scratch isnt an excuse to wait at a restaurant, since in all likelihood, they didnt roll it out while you were waiting

That's what I mean "afaict"; as far as I could tell, because she was rolling out the dough, scraping it out or something. It took a lot of time but it tasted good, to me. I am not a baki in (preparing) Italian food.

I just remembered, another place that had great pasta was Plaza Primevera. I assume it is still around, in the Leonardo Plaza? It is Rabanut Yerushalayim Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 04:36:05 AM
was it a pasta machine?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 16, 2012, 04:50:39 AM
Anybody been in keyara on the groupon deal yet?
A friend was there yesterday, first thing they asked when making a reservation on the phone, was with groupon? First thing when walking in, with groupon? He claims menu was a drop different for him. Some free extras missing etc.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 05:08:31 AM
what was missing? if it was the amouse or the granita, thats fine,
 but if bread/aioli, thats a different story
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 16, 2012, 05:12:43 AM
what was missing? if it was the amouse or the granita, thats fine,
 but if bread/aioli, thats a different story
not the bread/aioli.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 16, 2012, 05:26:32 AM
Anyone been to El Gaucho in Jerusalem? Opinions?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 05:35:49 AM
Anyone been to El Gaucho in Jerusalem? Opinions?
i dont think its mehadrin
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 16, 2012, 05:39:33 AM
But the one in Ramat gan is worth the visit.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 16, 2012, 06:05:19 PM
But the one in Ramat gan is worth the visit.
just barely.  they've got some really good appetizers but their basic steak is barely edible.     if you get their top steak it's really nice, but it will also cost you something in the range of 2-300 shek.   (i haven't been there in 2 years probably, so this is just what i recall)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 06:07:15 PM
in what way was it barely edible? temperature?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 16, 2012, 06:07:40 PM
Anybody been in keyara on the groupon deal yet?
A friend was there yesterday, first thing they asked when making a reservation on the phone, was with groupon? First thing when walking in, with groupon? He claims menu was a drop different for him. Some free extras missing etc.
that's really low, it specifically says on the groupon that you get the full range of options.    welcome to israel.          anyway, like i mentioned before i bought a couple too many of the coupons, so if anyone wants them please let me know asap.     if noones taking them i'm gonna refund them.   (and i'm not negotiating on price; if you don't take it, i'm getting a refund)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 16, 2012, 06:08:04 PM
in what way was it barely edible? temperature?
really really tough meat.   
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 06:09:53 PM
hmmm, maybe it was a bad night. when i was a bochur i used to make my way down about 2x a month and never had that problem.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 16, 2012, 06:21:22 PM
hmmm, maybe it was a bad night. when i was a bochur i used to make my way down about 2x a month and never had that problem.
i guess it depends what you're comparing it too.   one mans steak is another mans chulent meat ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 06:25:53 PM
im gonna assume it was the asado?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 16, 2012, 06:48:54 PM
im gonna assume it was the asado?
don't recall names... been a while.    but it's the one they give you when you get all you can eat
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 06:52:42 PM
there are two options
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 16, 2012, 07:33:29 PM
i dont think its mehadrin

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: world2see on July 17, 2012, 01:10:13 AM
anyone know any good drivers from jerusalem to the airport? i need a bigger/car van,6 suitcases,4 passengers. thanks!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 17, 2012, 03:36:47 AM
Tachlist , i see only places to EAT nothing to go ... anyone ?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 17, 2012, 05:03:03 AM
Last year I went to Nachal Og, next to the almog petrol station on the way to the Dead Sea. It was Beautiful.
Its basically a canyon and they made it so you can climb up/down. I think its like an hour and a half the whole thing.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 17, 2012, 06:02:25 AM
Last year I went to Nachal Og, next to the almog petrol station on the way to the Dead Sea. It was Beautiful.
Its basically a canyon and they made it so you can climb up/down. I think its like an hour and a half the whole thing.
+1

Although if i remember correctly I did it in 30 min once


Its cool because there are a lot of ropes etc and it feels really serious while being very easy and safe
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 17, 2012, 06:23:48 AM
+1

Although if i remember correctly I did it in 30 min once


Its cool because there are a lot of ropes etc and it feels really serious while being very easy and safe

I never actually did the whole thing, just heard from other guys there that had just finished.
Was with my wife...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 17, 2012, 06:46:20 AM
anyone know any good drivers from jerusalem to the airport? i need a bigger/car van,6 suitcases,4 passengers. thanks!
0504115424      his name is mandelbaum  really nice guy, good driver.   he has a van.  pretty old, but it does the trick.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 17, 2012, 06:48:08 AM
Last year I went to Nachal Og, next to the almog petrol station on the way to the Dead Sea. It was Beautiful.
Its basically a canyon and they made it so you can climb up/down. I think its like an hour and a half the whole thing.

is it off in an arab area? 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 17, 2012, 08:38:03 AM
I never actually did the whole thing, just heard from other guys there that had just finished.
Was with my wife...
I understand, did it once with females too.

*contrary to popular belief, they are still alive.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 17, 2012, 11:19:54 AM
is it off in an arab area?
Yes, the petrol station is full of 'em.
But in the summer vacation it's always swarming with jidelech.

Also, try the camel ride for 20 NIS.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 17, 2012, 12:02:39 PM
Yes, the petrol station is full of 'em.
But in the summer vacation it's always swarming with jidelech.

Swiss?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 17, 2012, 12:20:49 PM
Swiss?

Close...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 17, 2012, 12:54:05 PM
Close...
Twerp...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 17, 2012, 01:54:57 PM
Nachal Prat outside of Pisgat Zeev is beautiful.
Gan HaShlosha was ranked one of the most beautiful parks in the world, and it has a great museum that is usually empty to boot. Just make sure you go out to the museum, and not become stuck to the water. There is also a kangaroo park next door, but I haven't been there yet. Best to go on a non vacation day so the crowd is smaller and dressed more appropriately.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 17, 2012, 02:31:03 PM
Nachal Prat outside of Pisgat Zeev is beautiful.
Gan HaShlosha was ranked one of the most beautiful parks in the world,

Nachal Prat - Do you mean past kfar adumim?

Gan Hashlosha - near Beit She'an?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 17, 2012, 04:58:51 PM
Gan Hashlosha - near Beit She'an?
Yep, I did the kangaroo park (Gan Guru). BEWARE of the goats...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 17, 2012, 05:22:44 PM
Nachal Prat - Do you mean past kfar adumim?

Gan Hashlosha - near Beit She'an?

The stream has 3 places to enter it. One is Ein Prat and has an entrance fee. One is off the Alon road after Kfar Adumim and is called something like En Farah. The other is next to Mitzpe Yericho, but I haven't been there yet.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: kotel on July 18, 2012, 04:19:57 AM
Tachlist , i see only places to EAT nothing to go ... anyone ?

Try Go karting in Talpiot, open till about 3am.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 18, 2012, 05:45:12 AM
neot kedumim and eretz bereishit are nice family friendly activities
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on July 18, 2012, 07:27:52 AM
How about a nice zoo? The one in Jerusalem is supposed to be very expensive apparently.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 18, 2012, 07:29:54 AM
Tel Aviv port (namel) is cute to hang out. CafeCafe is Mehadrin, but their location is subpar and it might be nicer to stick to plain coffee at a non mehadring place
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 18, 2012, 07:32:11 AM
How about a nice zoo? The one in Jerusalem is supposed to be very expensive apparently.
ramat gan safari
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on July 18, 2012, 08:11:01 AM
How about a nice zoo? The one in Jerusalem is supposed to be very expensive apparently.
expensive?  heh, go to america for a visit to some sites and then come back and things will seem very reasonably priced.   it's about 50 shek per adult for the zoo, and 40 for kids over 3. that's dirt cheap.
ramat gan safari
great safari, and zoo.   but i think it's more expensive than teh jerusalem zoo
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 18, 2012, 08:47:43 AM
How about a nice zoo? The one in Jerusalem is supposed to be very expensive apparently.

But well worth it. It was built very nicely, and really incorporates the natural area into it's small size.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 18, 2012, 08:54:49 AM
I was there years ago and had an amazing time, great pics! It is on the list of places that are Mechalel Shabbos so if you are makpid beware...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 18, 2012, 02:38:46 PM
I was there years ago and had an amazing time, great pics! It is on the list of places that are Mechalel Shabbos so if you are makpid beware...
R' Shlomo Zalman sent people there
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 03:49:05 PM
The Ayalon Institute has a British era bullet factory museum in/near Rechovot - It was fun to see and interesting history to experience. It was pretty cool overall and cheap to do as well.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/ayalon.html

http://www.gemsinisrael.com/e_article000012009.htm
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 03:54:32 PM
Also, in Gush Etzion the museum from the war in '48. Really cool as well. They show you a video and then reveal the bunker right behind the screen where some of the events took place. Pretty awe inspiring.

http://www.attractions-in-israel.com/judea-samaria-and-jordan-valley/js-museums/gush-etzion-museum-%E2%80%93-history-of-the-etzion-bloc-settlements-in-israel/
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Then there is a trail in the west bank called - Derech Ha'Avot - good stuff - you get some great views and get to see some mikvaot allegedly from the days of the Mikdash. You may also find some grapes to eat while on the trail. They claim that the Avot walked there, hence the name.

http://www.govisitisrael.com/articlenav.php?id=279
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: David B on July 18, 2012, 04:09:18 PM
The Ayalon Institute has a British era bullet factory museum in/near Rechovot - It was fun to see and interesting history to experience. It was pretty cool overall and cheap to do as well.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/ayalon.html

http://www.gemsinisrael.com/e_article000012009.htm

Big +1 on the Bullet Factory -- they do a really nice job of bringing visitors through and telling the stories from 1948
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: David B on July 18, 2012, 04:09:53 PM
neot kedumim and eretz bereishit are nice family friendly activities

Eretz Breishit is truly expensive and a bit too Disney-esque
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 18, 2012, 05:20:42 PM
Eretz Breishit is truly expensive and a bit too Disney-esque
+1, but it is next to Ein Farah, and they have rappelling as well.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 18, 2012, 05:32:32 PM
The palmach museum next to the Tel Aviv University train station was awesome.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 18, 2012, 08:23:32 PM
You may also find some grapes to eat while on the trail.
-1
are you familiar with the trumos and maasros situation in israel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 18, 2012, 08:24:45 PM
-1
are you familiar with the trumos and maasros situation in israel?
Are you serious?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Ergel on July 18, 2012, 08:25:49 PM
+1 on palmach museum and bullet factory. Hayarkon park in tell Aviv is also nice and the views from the top of the ayalon towers in tell Aviv is also nice.
Also the blind and deaf museums in cholon are unbelievable
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 18, 2012, 08:38:28 PM
-1
are you familiar with the trumos and maasros situation in israel?
-1. Actually, if you're eating straight from any tree (and not packing for later or piling it up) there's no chiyuv truma or maaser. In particular to trees on the trail, there's no chiyuv at all because there's no chiyuv by hefker. For further details, ask your LOR. Or better yet, crack a sefer. If you live here, you might as well learn the halachos.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 18, 2012, 08:39:52 PM
-1. Actually, if you're eating straight from any tree (and not packing for later or piling it up) there's no chiyuv truma or maaser. In particular to trees on the trail, there's no chiyuv at all because there's no chiyuv by hefker. For further details, ask your LOR. Or better yet, crack a sefer. If you live here, you might as well learn the halachos.
was what I meant by
Are you serious?


And btw dude, it doesn't apply when packing for later. Chiyuv Truma is chal when the fruit enters a house or similar enclosure.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 18, 2012, 08:53:58 PM
thanks for the clarification, however how does that help with regards to orlah?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 18, 2012, 08:59:14 PM
thanks for the clarification, however how does that help with regards to orlah?
That at the very least is a sofek. Is one mechuayev to be choshesh for such a safek?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 18, 2012, 09:02:01 PM
That at the very least is a sofek. Is one mechuayev to be choshesh for such a safek?
i would think so, but alas, im no rabbi
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 18, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
And btw dude, it doesn't apply when packing for later. Chiyuv Truma is chal when the fruit enters a house or similar enclosure.
There are actually several things that bring on the chiyuv. One is 'רואה פני הבית', which is what you're talking about (יו'ד של'א, סע' פג). Another is piling it in your hand, putting it in a bag, box, etc. - something that packages it, which is what I'm talking about (יו'ד של'א,סע' פז, פט). Another is Shabbos - if Shabbos comes in, the chiyuv is chal. עיין שם עוד
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 18, 2012, 09:44:46 PM
That at the very least is a sofek. Is one mechuayev to be choshesh for such a safek?

i would think so, but alas, im no rabbi

In Eretz Yisroel, even Safeik Orlah is Assur. (יו'ד רצ'ד, סע'ט)
The trick is knowing what's a safeik. Most trees will not bear fruit within the first 3 years of their lives. The reason it's a problem is because trees that are grown commercially are moved after they've (somewhat) matured, which starts the three years of Orlah counting over (sometimes) but the tree is b'etsem older than that. So it can be first three years of Orlah, but it can bear fruit. Obviously, this isn't a problem in the wild.
Also, there are certain trees that grow low to the ground and a shoot will sprout from the tree that will go underground and come up again, halachically a new plant, and will grow fruit before it's three years.
Bottom line, you're average tree in the wild wouldn't (couldn't) have a safeik Orlah.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 10:05:48 PM
+1 on palmach museum and bullet factory. Hayarkon park in tell Aviv is also nice and the views from the top of the ayalon towers in tell Aviv is also nice.
Also the blind and deaf museums in cholon are unbelievable

I am not sure the Kashrus status (never been to it) - but there is a restaurant near Tel Aviv that is called Blackout and you get to experience what it is like to be a blind person. It is supposed to be a real authentic experience.


http://www.jpost.com/LocalIsrael/TelAvivAndCenter/Article.aspx?id=91090

http://irenesharonhodes.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/blackout-the-most-fun-youll-have-over-a-table-in-the-dark/

http://www.nalagaat.org.il/home.php
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 11:06:45 PM


Are you serious?

Thank you!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 19, 2012, 03:14:43 AM
Bottom line, you're average tree in the wild wouldn't (couldn't) have a safeik Orlah.
im having trouble understanding this statement, how does one know if its an average tree?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 03:38:20 AM
im having trouble understanding this statement, how does one know if its an average tree?

If you see a full size tree growing on a wild path, I would be surprised if a/o paskened it's a safek that it had been moved there in the last few years. We aren't choshesh for extreme situations.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 19, 2012, 08:26:48 AM
im having trouble understanding this statement, how does one know if its an average tree?
What was meant by that is a reference to the line immediately proceeding
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auth26or=Armadillo link=topic=1885.msg264489#msg264489 date=1342662286]
Also, [/u]there are certain trees[/u] that grow low to the ground and a shoot will sprout from the tree that will go underground and come up again, halachically a new plant, and will grow fruit before it's three years.
trees that don't do that are average trees
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 20, 2012, 07:40:28 AM
Also, in Gush Etzion the museum from the war in '48. Really cool as well. They show you a video and then reveal the bunker right behind the screen where some of the events took place. Pretty awe inspiring.

http://www.attractions-in-israel.com/judea-samaria-and-jordan-valley/js-museums/gush-etzion-museum-%E2%80%93-history-of-the-etzion-bloc-settlements-in-israel/

Is that not supposed to be a surprise?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on July 20, 2012, 07:41:39 AM
Also the blind and deaf museums in cholon are unbelievable

They're awesome!!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 21, 2012, 05:45:55 PM
what is the tahana anyhow?
Presumably the central bus station.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 21, 2012, 05:57:35 PM
Gush Eztion Winery has a very good dairy restaurant. Nothing really to see as far as wine factory tour though wine is good.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 22, 2012, 12:22:17 AM
Psagot winery is beautiful, with nice presentations about the region as well, and easily accessible by bus.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: confide on July 22, 2012, 04:29:13 AM
Hi, can you folk recommend a nice 4-5 star hotel in Israel? Specifically in Haifa, Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, as I'll be vistiting those cities in October this year.

I've heard Dan Hotels (http://www.danhotels.com (http://www.danhotels.com)) mentioned a few times - anyone got any experience of those?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 22, 2012, 07:10:55 AM
Psagot winery is beautiful, with nice presentations about the region as well, and easily accessible by bus.

heard about it...what hashgacha is the wine?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 22, 2012, 07:13:41 AM
Hi, can you folk recommend a nice 4-5 star hotel in Israel? Specifically in Haifa, Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, as I'll be vistiting those cities in October this year.

I've heard Dan Hotels (http://www.danhotels.com (http://www.danhotels.com)) mentioned a few times - anyone got any experience of those?

Welcome to DDF. Search Israel Master thread but if you're willing to spend $$$ so in Jerusalem consider the David Citadel, King David or Mamilla Hotel.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 22, 2012, 07:26:23 AM
I think they have all the pretty symbols on them, but call them to confirm.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2012, 12:20:48 PM
Mamilla Hotel.
-1, IMHO.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 22, 2012, 08:37:52 PM
I read through some of the forums but was not able to get a clear picture of hotels in Jerusalem.
I want a clean nice hotel that is not crazy expensive(4 *).
I have starwood points but I think it pays to just pay for the hotel.
Anyone stayed in grand court?Is it a good hechsher?
What suggestions do you have for other hotels.(no kids)

Whats the best way to get to tour miron, tzfas, tiveria? A hoffman tour- a bus?
What about kever rochel meoras hamachpeila?

Its been years since I was there so any suggestions of where to go would be greatly appreciated.
(not beaches or the like- things I cant see/do in America)

Thank you!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 23, 2012, 07:55:53 AM
Grand court - I just put someone there a few weeks ago, was pretty reasonable, IIRC around 600 shekel. Hechsher - idk. It looks like a nice place.

How long are you planning on being here? You can rent an apartment. Hoffman tours - I went with them 13 years ago, it was a great time!

I've heard Dan Hotels (http://www.danhotels.com (http://www.danhotels.com)) mentioned a few times - anyone got any experience of those?

Dan hotels offer free upgrades for DDF members  ???
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 23, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
Ok- thank you. I think I will book the grand court.
I will be in Israel for a little over a week. I am nervous to rent an apartment I do not see firsthand.
Do you have one that you know people that stayed in?

Any other ideas besides the regular hoffman tours and the tunnel tour? I will book both of those.

Thank you
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 23, 2012, 01:27:11 PM
Ok- thank you. I think I will book the grand court.
I will be in Israel for a little over a week. I am nervous to rent an apartment I do not see firsthand.
Do you have one that you know people that stayed in?

Any other ideas besides the regular hoffman tours and the tunnel tour? I will book both of those.

Thank you
The rampart walk is very interesting, and you see a lot of things you wouldn't normally see. Just bring water if its the heat of the day.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2012, 01:27:44 PM
The rampart walk is very interesting, and you see a lot of things you wouldn't normally see. Just bring water if its the heat of the day.
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 23, 2012, 03:32:05 PM
Ok- thank you. I think I will book the grand court.
I will be in Israel for a little over a week. I am nervous to rent an apartment I do not see firsthand.
Do you have one that you know people that stayed in?

I don't know how much the GC costs when booking online. A guy went to the hotel at 12 am and asked for a price. There are 2 more next door, Olive Tree and Leonardo. For apartments, you can look for someone who wants to trade apts, like if you are from KGH, maybe someone from Yerushalayim wants to stay there for a week and you stay in his apt in Minchas Yitzchak. You can ask someone to put up a sign in the Mir and look at the signs there, or check janglo.net for less Yeshivish locales.

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Any other ideas besides the regular hoffman tours and the tunnel tour? I will book both of those.

Make sure to check out the Mir  8)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on July 23, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/07/summer-kashrus-travel-advisory-for-jerusalem/
(I can vouch for R'Yechiel)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 23, 2012, 03:42:34 PM
http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/07/summer-kashrus-travel-advisory-for-jerusalem/
(I can vouch for R'Yechiel)

Repost...

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18288.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18288.0)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on July 23, 2012, 04:07:58 PM
The rampart walk is very interesting, and you see a lot of things you wouldn't normally see. Just bring water if its the heat of the day.
is that done on your own, or with a tour?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2012, 04:08:29 PM
On your own.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 23, 2012, 04:23:56 PM
On your own.
But you pay for an audio thingy to listen to as you go on. And do the northern route, there's a lot more to see.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 24, 2012, 10:59:18 PM
Are there any hotels in Jerusalem that it pays to use points for(as oppose to selling the points and paying for the hotel)
Starwoord, American Express, THank you etc...

Seems like most decent hotels are around $250 a night.

Any advice on discounts on any hotels in Jerusalem?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 24, 2012, 11:13:38 PM
Are there any hotels in Jerusalem that it pays to use points for(as oppose to selling the points and paying for the hotel)
Starwoord, American Express, THank you etc...

Seems like most decent hotels are around $250 a night.

Any advice on discounts on any hotels in Jerusalem?
Crowne Plaza can be a it cheeper but it's pc points that u buy from pc
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 24, 2012, 11:21:48 PM
Other then that theres no way to pay less then the $250 for hotels?
Any way to get a discount? Do you know of any hotels cheaper that are nice?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 24, 2012, 11:27:20 PM
Look at the Grand Court.

Maybe stay at the Dead sea with starwood
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on July 25, 2012, 03:08:34 AM
Ok- thank you. I think I will book the grand court.
I will be in Israel for a little over a week. I am nervous to rent an apartment I do not see firsthand.
Do you have one that you know people that stayed in?

Any other ideas besides the regular hoffman tours and the tunnel tour? I will book both of those.

Thank you
Herodium -הרודיון is a historical masterpiece (Masada is the baby Herodium, and its whole fame is just because its a site where the original Sikrikim -who were so extreme and murderous in their point of view that they make contemporary "sikrikim" look like Tzadikim,  fought the Romans to the very end and committed mass suicide, an unfortunate episode), and IMHO is one of the best kept secrets.

I've got lots more, but iy"h some other time..
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 05:59:28 AM
Herodium -הרודיון is a historical masterpiece (Masada is the baby Herodium, and its whole fame is just because its a site where the original Sikrikim -who were so extreme and murderous in their point of view that they make contemporary "sikrikim" look like Tzadikim,  fought the Romans to the very end and committed mass suicide, an unfortunate episode), and IMHO is one of the best kept secrets.

I've got lots more, but iy"h some other time..
I heard it's great, but still haven't been there.
If you're driving down to the Dead Sea, there's a nice national park on the way, soon after the Qumran caves, that has springs and pools created out of them. They eventually drain into the dead sea.

And they have a coupon today for a hot-air balloon trip for half off, good till the end of the year.
http://www.baligam.co.il/jerusalem/offers/over_israel
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 25, 2012, 09:40:15 AM
Thank you Galitzyaner
I will check out Heridion.
When you have time if you can post your other ideas.
I have compiled a list.
I am getting mixed reviews on the time elevator and the blind museum. Whats your opinion?
Reuven- Im going to check out that link you posted to.

Thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 10:03:51 AM
I am getting mixed reviews on the time elevator and the blind museum. Whats your opinion?

I've only heard good things about the blind museum.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 25, 2012, 10:14:17 AM
I've only heard good things about the blind museum.

its a must do...unbelievable experience...the deaf musuem too
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 25, 2012, 10:15:42 AM
Is there anything else near the blind/deaf museum that I should do?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 25, 2012, 10:17:24 AM
Is there anything else near the blind/deaf museum that I should do?

how much time? what type of activity you looking for?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Ergel on July 25, 2012, 11:23:55 AM
Do the palmach museum in tel Aviv.

The time elevator in yerushalayim is awful. I wouldn't go again if they paid me.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 25, 2012, 11:29:54 AM
Do the palmach museum in tel Aviv.

+1

FWIW I mentioned it earlier
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 25, 2012, 11:30:43 AM
The blind museum wont take a whole day so anything that is near that is worth doing.
Activity- not looking to do what I can do here in the states. Something interesting/different.
thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 25, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
The blind museum wont take a whole day so anything that is near that is worth doing.
Activity- not looking to do what I can do here in the states. Something interesting/different.
thanks

you can hang out in old yafo and walk along the beach...go into tel aviv harbor...shop in bnei brak and visit gedolim...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: tll on July 25, 2012, 11:50:13 AM
thanks- I will go to bnei brak after great thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 25, 2012, 11:54:01 AM
thanks- I will go to bnei brak after great thanks

shop on r akiva street...across from shtiblach is great shwarma store...just avoid ketchup as it a knock off brand is more like chili sauce..maybe they've improved since then :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 25, 2012, 11:58:55 AM
shop on r akiva street...across from shtiblach is great shwarma store...just avoid ketchup as it a knock off brand is more like chili sauce..maybe they've improved since then :)

Lol, you mean Matamei Shlomo where you can't stand up straight upstairs...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on July 25, 2012, 12:01:55 PM
Lol, you mean Matamei Shlomo where you can't stand up straight upstairs...

Lol, yes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 25, 2012, 01:26:59 PM
thanks- I will go to bnei brak after great thanks

what an amazing tour in Bnei Braq , lol...
you can go in Tel Avis to Azrieli

http://www.tripadvisor.in/ShowUserReviews-g293984-d324155-r125385279-Azrieli_Center-Tel_Aviv.html
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 01:32:29 PM
what an amazing tour in Bnei Braq , lol...
you can go in Tel Avis to Azrieli

http://www.tripadvisor.in/ShowUserReviews-g293984-d324155-r125385279-Azrieli_Center-Tel_Aviv.html

talk about two extremes...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aj26 on July 25, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
Just went to Agas V'tapuach, up the steps from light rail at city center exit.
Really good italian resturant
waiters and owners really nice. good food. good ambiance
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 27, 2012, 10:00:13 AM
love the place , hate the parking
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 29, 2012, 12:03:09 AM
love the place , hate the parking

Get a tus-tus. ;-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on July 29, 2012, 12:24:18 PM
Get a tus-tus. ;-)

i have one , not a solution when you go with someone Mechubedik .
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on July 29, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Went back to Kaffit last week, and it was as great as usual.
Their salad with the sweet potatoes is amazing.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on July 29, 2012, 05:40:26 PM
I am looking for a place to go/stay somewhere in EY from Aug 5 - 7, so for the night of the 5th or 6th or both. This is for with the family, wife and kids, and preferably cheap. Also, not sure if I'll rent car (because need 7 seater B"H, too expensive) so probably go by bus, looking for a place with stuff to do there, nearby.

Any ideas? References, apartments, cheap hotel? Yerushalayim, Bnei Brak, Netanya etc? Not too close to Modiin/Chashmonaim, looking for a "trip".

TIA! A gutten zummer, A gutte tzimmer!  :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 01, 2012, 02:39:51 AM
i have one , not a solution when you go with someone Mechubedik .

True dat. ;)

What bike do you drive?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 01, 2012, 06:29:53 AM
I am looking for a place to go/stay somewhere in EY from Aug 5 - 7, so for the night of the 5th or 6th or both. This is for with the family, wife and kids, and preferably cheap. Also, not sure if I'll rent car (because need 7 seater B"H, too expensive) so probably go by bus, looking for a place with stuff to do there, nearby.

Any ideas? References, apartments, cheap hotel? Yerushalayim, Bnei Brak, Netanya etc? Not too close to Modiin/Chashmonaim, looking for a "trip".

TIA! A gutten zummer, A gutte tzimmer!  :)
try Janglo.net (http://Janglo.net)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on August 01, 2012, 06:37:34 AM
I am looking for a place to go/stay somewhere in EY from Aug 5 - 7, so for the night of the 5th or 6th or both. This is for with the family, wife and kids, and preferably cheap. Also, not sure if I'll rent car (because need 7 seater B"H, too expensive) so probably go by bus, looking for a place with stuff to do there, nearby.

Any ideas? References, apartments, cheap hotel? Yerushalayim, Bnei Brak, Netanya etc? Not too close to Modiin/Chashmonaim, looking for a "trip".

TIA! A gutten zummer, A gutte tzimmer!  :)

There are a few good Tzimmer websites. Here is one of them
http://www.zimmeril.com/

We did Amirim 2 yrs ago, and enjoyed. There is a shul a 15 minute walk away in the next yishuv over. Fruit trees growing over the property, and a chabad anglo couple who opened a veggy resteraunt up the street, even though it's not a religious yishuv. The kashrus was mehadrin from the regional council I believe, but call to check.
http://amirim.com/en
http://amirim.com/kosher/en
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aj26 on August 01, 2012, 06:43:10 AM
I am looking for a place to go/stay somewhere in EY from Aug 5 - 7, so for the night of the 5th or 6th or both. This is for with the family, wife and kids, and preferably cheap. Also, not sure if I'll rent car (because need 7 seater B"H, too expensive) so probably go by bus, looking for a place with stuff to do there, nearby.

Any ideas? References, apartments, cheap hotel? Yerushalayim, Bnei Brak, Netanya etc? Not too close to Modiin/Chashmonaim, looking for a "trip".

TIA! A gutten zummer, A gutte tzimmer!  :)

If you are looking for a great place in tzfas, check out www.nofharashbi.com. I am there now, will write more about in trip notes coming up. Absolutly amazing. Great owner, really nice. One of the best places I've stayed in Israel. And even though the pics are nice. It doesn't do the place justice. It's much nicer than the pics on website
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on August 05, 2012, 06:18:31 PM
So Now that its vacation time, what you guys been doing here? Any good vacation trips in the centre, kids friendly?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: creditor on August 05, 2012, 06:25:55 PM
So Now that its vacation time, what you guys been doing here? Any good vacation trips in the centre, kids friendly?
monkey park near modiin among tonz others
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on August 05, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
True dat. ;)

What bike do you drive?


(http://www.motoraceroma.it/admin/foto/silverwing400.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on August 05, 2012, 07:40:21 PM
So Now that its vacation time, what you guys been doing here? Any good vacation trips in the centre, kids friendly?
e.i. dark museum
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 05, 2012, 07:44:29 PM
So Now that its vacation time, what you guys been doing here? Any good vacation trips in the centre, kids friendly?

what about the biblical zoo? (ramat gan)
or pottery on amiek
theres a bowling alley in talpiot
pool in neve yaakov for men and one near har hertzel for women
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 05, 2012, 07:46:34 PM
Just went to Agas V'tapuach, up the steps from light rail at city center exit.
Really good italian resturant
waiters and owners really nice. good food. good ambiance

agas!!!  ahhh love that place, and who parks? just take the train its the city hall stop, the owner is italian and he does opra for a side thing he sings to everyone when its thier bday and of course free cake... :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 05, 2012, 07:48:49 PM
Other then that theres no way to pay less then the $250 for hotels?
Any way to get a discount? Do you know of any hotels cheaper that are nice?

try going to the ramada or any of those on that strip (mercaz hair)  (i think the jerusalem park) its around 98 a night and even the little house in rechavia is supposed to be cheap
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 05, 2012, 07:53:01 PM
what about the biblical zoo? (ramat gan)

Isn't the Biblical Zoo in J-lem? IIRC the one in Ramat Gan is a "safari".
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 05, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
Isn't the Biblical Zoo in J-lem? IIRC the one in Ramat Gan is a "safari".
oh ya i think ur right, sorry my bad, ment the safari, i know they had a tender from my building took a few famalies there today, they said it wasnt packed and very nice!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on August 06, 2012, 03:51:11 AM
what about the biblical zoo? (ramat gan)
or pottery on amiek
theres a bowling alley in talpiot
pool in neve yaakov for men and one near har hertzel for women

Pool in Neve Yaakov has separate times for men and women.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 06, 2012, 04:02:25 AM
If u have a car bowling is way nicer @ maale adumim.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 06, 2012, 07:19:51 AM
never knew there was one there.  noach offered me by the way, 35 with cdw (avis prez) a day
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 06, 2012, 07:20:19 AM
my mother in law said the bullet museum is gorgeous as well, and blind museum, bamba factory
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 06, 2012, 07:35:12 AM
my mother in law said the bullet museum is gorgeous as well, and blind museum, bamba factory
Goimg I'm circles here but the palmach museum @ tlv is nice too
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 06, 2012, 07:40:52 AM
sorry, just throwing things to do out there :-)

what is that? sound familier
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on August 07, 2012, 04:44:04 PM
If u have a car bowling is way nicer @ maale adumim.

Do you mean in Mishor adumim? There is one there, straight until the Rami Levi on the left, you turn right instead, then another right. I've been there but never inside iirc.

Pool in Neve Yaakov has separate times for men and women.

Is this pool like billiards/snooker or swimming?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on August 07, 2012, 04:50:15 PM
Is this pool like billiards/snooker or swimming?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 08, 2012, 02:00:23 AM
An interesting fact about the blind museum "Dialog in the Dark".
In Chulon (Israel) it costs 62 Shek. = Approx. $16
In NYC it costs $40 !!!
In Johannesburg SA it costs approx. [the equivalent of] $5!  :o

Note that they are all branches of the same musuem...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on August 09, 2012, 05:40:17 PM
The stream has 3 places to enter it. One is Ein Prat and has an entrance fee. One is off the Alon road after Kfar Adumim and is called something like En Farah. The other is next to Mitzpe Yericho, but I haven't been there yet.

The second one is Ein Mabua? I got high recommendations for it. Is it appropriate for little kids? Do you know if there is likely to be a big crowd there?

I heard that the first place closes at 5, the second at 6.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 09, 2012, 06:00:01 PM
The second one is Ein Mabua? I got high recommendations for it. Is it appropriate for little kids? Do you know if there is likely to be a big crowd there?

I heard that the first place closes at 5, the second at 6.

Thanks!

i just told creditor about it, he said theres a nice place also a drop farther down, also it closes at 4 fromwhat i was told, my neighbor said its gr8 for kids not so much adults, he said it gorgeous and nice and fun. also he said he did eretz birishit which is before it, so this way the kids were all tired out and just relaxed there :-)   
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 09, 2012, 06:00:24 PM
An interesting fact about the blind museum "Dialog in the Dark".
In Chulon (Israel) it costs 62 Shek. = Approx. $16
In NYC it costs $40 !!!
In Johannesburg SA it costs approx. [the equivalent of] $5!  :o

Note that they are all branches of the same musuem...

how do i get tickets im dying to go...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: greatdeals on August 10, 2012, 08:07:32 AM
so now that EL-AL agreed to honor the tickets  :o, I
am going to Israel for the first time. I will be arriving
on a Monday night and leaving the following Monday morning.
I will be traveling with my husband and baby.
what are the most important things to see and do for a first timer?
please help me plan the best trip. I am so excited.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2012, 08:45:32 AM
thats so nice! good for you.

kotel :-)

what time of yr u plan on joining us here?  also if u go thru this thread there is so much written its better than any tour guide :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on August 10, 2012, 09:00:18 AM
Ugh. I should have figured the Israel thread would be well over 500 posts. I am going to israel chanukah? Is there a list of top things not to be missed in israel? I did a pretty extensive tour of the country 4 years ago. That was in the summer though are there different things to do in the winter? I will read through the thread, just wondering if anyone has some good quick tips.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2012, 09:02:27 AM
u ski? go all the way up north  its gorgeous - הר חרמון. maybe even go eilat its very good normal whether, scuba diving- its abnormal amazing :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on August 10, 2012, 09:15:42 AM
u ski? go all the way up north  its gorgeous - הר חרמון. maybe even go eilat its very good normal whether, scuba diving- its abnormal amazing :-)
Why would I ski in Israel? I acgtually never have and I'd like to but shouldn't I got to Colorado for that? I have 12 days in Israel is Skiing really a good use of time? Unless it's something special about har charmon I'm missing? (I hated Eilat and told myself I'd never go back, there is no reason a resort city can't import some high quality sand.)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2012, 10:34:18 AM
Why would I ski in Israel? I acgtually never have and I'd like to but shouldn't I got to Colorado for that? I have 12 days in Israel is Skiing really a good use of time? Unless it's something special about har charmon I'm missing? (I hated Eilat and told myself I'd never go back, there is no reason a resort city can't import some high quality sand.)

ur right about the eilot thing - i asked the same thing, why could tel aviv have gr8 sand :-)

and in general everyone says that mout chermon is amazing views,
what type of tour would u like to do ?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on August 10, 2012, 10:50:20 AM
ur right about the eilot thing - i asked the same thing, why could tel aviv have gr8 sand :-)

and in general everyone says that mout chermon is amazing views,
what type of tour would u like to do ?

That's a great question. Problem is I am going with 2 other guys and 1 of them although born in Israel hasn't been back since he was 2 so we will have to do a repeat of many stuff I've already done... If there was a list of things that must be seen than I'd know what I have to do. I probably want a few hikes up north, some wineries, and to find out what I didn't do the first time. In general I just want to be in Israel again, the activities are secondary to me.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
That's a great question. Problem is I am going with 2 other guys and 1 of them although born in Israel hasn't been back since he was 2 so we will have to do a repeat of many stuff I've already done... If there was a list of things that must be seen than I'd know what I have to do. I probably want a few hikes up north, some wineries, and to find out what I didn't do the first time. In general I just want to be in Israel again, the activities are secondary to me.

i was going to ask u that, just soak it all  up :-) dont forget it will be chilly, last yr it was a very cold winter here (we had snow) but def, just eNjoy it here esp since just guys have fun and relax, but tzfas tveria meron, mir, chevron, ein gedi, massada,
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: JEWDA on August 10, 2012, 11:03:47 AM
i was going to ask u that, just soak it all  up :-) dont forget it will be chilly, last yr it was a very cold winter here (we had snow) but def, just eNjoy it here esp since just guys have fun and relax, but tzfas tveria meron, mir, chevron, ein gedi, massada,
wow where did that come in?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2012, 11:06:36 AM
wow where did that come in?
waiting for someone to say that ...lol ;-) hey its still a gr8 place, mir campus is 8/9 buliding and just beis yisroel :-)
but honestly was a joke
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on August 10, 2012, 11:31:10 AM
wow where did that come in?
LOL!!! I think I actually have a seat in the main beis medresh if I ever go there.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on August 11, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
LOL!!! I think I actually have a seat in the main beis medresh

How is that? But the Mir is def. must see! and learn there at least a bit.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on August 11, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
How is that? But the Mir is def. must see! and learn there at least a bit.
I have a great uncle who has a permanent table there.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 12, 2012, 04:28:21 AM
ur right about the eilot thing

Don't think this (http://maps.google.com/?q=loc:Eilot,+Israel+(Eilot)&sll=29.580548,34.963023) is what you had in mind. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on August 12, 2012, 04:37:46 AM
Don't think this (http://maps.google.com/?q=loc:Eilot,+Israel+(Eilot)&sll=29.580548,34.963023) is what you had in mind. ;)
Yeah, I figured he meant Eilat, not Eilot.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on August 12, 2012, 01:38:26 PM
Anyone can recommend a nice fleishig place in Tel Aviv? Must have a decent Hashgacha.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on August 13, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Anyone can recommend a nice fleishig place in Tel Aviv? Must have a decent Hashgacha.

Uh-oh
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 13, 2012, 10:46:48 AM
Anyone can recommend a nice fleishig place in Tel Aviv? Must have a decent Hashgacha.
Used to be Chinese place called China Lee, haven't been there in a long time.

Deca is the nicest restaurant Ive ever been to, but it's milchig. Prices are quite reasonable (my companion kept insisting they were in USD)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 13, 2012, 01:37:31 PM
Used to be Chinese place called China Lee, haven't been there in a long time.

Deca is the nicest restaurant Ive ever been to, but it's milchig. Prices are quite reasonable (my companion kept insisting they were in USD)

there loong closed   boy do i miss that place :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on August 13, 2012, 03:43:19 PM
Used to be Chinese place called China Lee, haven't been there in a long time.

Deca is the nicest restaurant Ive ever been to, but it's milchig. Prices are quite reasonable (my companion kept insisting they were in USD)
Thanks, I ended up eating at Art Meat and wouldn't recommend it unless there is nothing else. I was told there's a great Milchige place "Alternative" as well.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on August 13, 2012, 03:50:53 PM
I was told there's a great Milchige place "Alternative" as well.
+1 Best creme brulee I have had in my life! Ended up ordering 3 of them :)) (4 years ago)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on August 13, 2012, 03:54:07 PM
+1 Best creme brulee I have had in my life! Ended up ordering 3 of them :)) (4 years ago)
Repost! I read your recommendation yesterday, hope to try it in the near future.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on August 13, 2012, 03:56:10 PM
Repost! I read your recommendation yesterday, hope to try it in the near future.
LOL! I don't even remember posting that. Where did I recommend it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on August 13, 2012, 04:01:17 PM
LOL! I don't even remember posting that. Where did I recommend it?
Sorry, just realised it was Dan who posted it. http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1885.msg51355;topicseen#msg51355
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ari9 on August 13, 2012, 04:08:24 PM
the bullet museum/factory is a great trip (as recommended on this thread) - it only has become more well known recently. its enjoyable for both adults and kids (not very little ones, but kids who are old enough to understand what bullets and a factory are, etc). the whole tour takes 1- 1 1/2 hours. its located in rehovot. the person who answered the phone there gave us incorrect directions so we came 15 minutes late but they let us join anyway and we watched the movie at the end instead of at the beginning. (our tour guide's name was dina, she was really great and I think it makes a big difference which tour guide you get).  if you google/put into your gps the street "haim holtsman" you'll get to the right place and then just follow the brown signs for 'ayalon institute' from there.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aarony on August 13, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
were you on the 1:30 tour? if so  i was on your tour! :)  we enjoyed it as well - (myself and my twelve year old boys)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ari9 on August 13, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
that's funny! the world is small on ddf
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 13, 2012, 04:36:30 PM
that's funny! the world is small on ddf

funny thing also is i was there yesterday :-) we had segi which was very very good, and yes the movie is crucial :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Crazy tools on August 16, 2012, 01:39:20 AM
I was there a little while back. I   highly reccomened it. It was one of the only places that I've been to that I can say that the whole family would be happy
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aarony on August 16, 2012, 07:49:33 AM
anyone here been to the outdoor pool in the zipori center (near yad vashem)?  we are looking for a nice place for boys to go swimming this evening and they have separate hours...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on August 16, 2012, 02:47:50 PM
Was just in Ein Farra - Ein Mabu'a. Gorgeous place, nice crowd, mostly dati and charedi, a few cousins. Unbelievable scenery. It is great for the entire family. You can walk through the stream or alongside. Last time I was there (2 days ago) I barely got my feet wet, today went through the stream, amazing place! Very relaxing!

It could be at non-peak times there are more foxes and less family.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 16, 2012, 04:33:31 PM
the bullet museum/factory is a great trip

Do they have a website?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 16, 2012, 05:22:18 PM
Do they have a website?

google is our friend....

http://shalomisraeltours.com/ayalon-institute-museum/
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 17, 2012, 09:06:04 AM
Re. Places to eat, this is a famous spot for shwarma, people swear by this place that they've got the best shwarma on planet earth.

It's at the gas station right at the exit/entrance to Bnei Brak (near the coca cola factory?).
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d036259b-41a9-4a93.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 17, 2012, 09:18:18 AM
Re. Places to eat, this is a famous spot for shwarma, people swear by this place that they've got the best shwarma on planet earth.

It's at the gas station right at the exit/entrance to Bnei Brak (near the coca cola factory?).
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d036259b-41a9-4a93.jpg)

yes, its amazing!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on August 17, 2012, 09:29:03 AM
There is also one by knisa l'ir of Yerushalyim. http://goo.gl/maps/diZcU
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 17, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
google is our friend....

That's what YOU think. (http://bit.ly/NKDtQU)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: kivabb on August 21, 2012, 01:21:03 PM
What does a family of 9 do that would like to have a Hoffman Tour (or the like) experience but can't afford $55 x 9 for a simple tour. I would even do one of them if it was the "must do", but they have 12 and wouldn't know where to start. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Ergel on August 21, 2012, 01:23:39 PM
What does a family of 9 do that would like to have a Hoffman Tour (or the like) experience but can't afford $55 x 9 for a simple tour. I would even do one of them if it was the "must do", but they have 12 and wouldn't know where to start. Any suggestions?
Don't know anything about them but i'm sure if you contacted them they would give you a group rate and recommendations of which tour to take.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: kivabb on August 21, 2012, 01:43:26 PM
Yes, the just told me 25% off for family rate. First time for most of the kids and want to combine Tanach and Eretz Yisrael. I asked for the recommendation. I will post here when they answer.

Thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on August 21, 2012, 01:50:29 PM
Yes, the just told me 25% off for family rate. First time for most of the kids and want to combine Tanach and Eretz Yisrael. I asked the for recommendation. I will post here when they answer.

Thanks

maybe tfas tveria merion, etc... seems like a very good start
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on August 21, 2012, 06:02:13 PM
It may be reasonable to hire a driver with a van/minibus. I could give you a recommendation, PM me.

Or rent a vehicle and hire a driver.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: aarony on August 21, 2012, 06:41:04 PM
Try Artzeinu as well
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on August 30, 2012, 05:53:25 AM
Forgot to mention. Often, if you work at a large employer, you have access to discounted coupons, etc. I was able to buy 'gourmet' breakfast for 2 at various locations, including the Crowne Plaza in Yerushalayim. Cost was 61 sh total (list price is 95! each). This was my bd price. Normally it's 72 for a couple thru this website.

I always love hotel breakfasts due to the variety, and this was no different. Not on the same level as the Dead Sea LM, but good nonetheless, and much cheaper.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on September 09, 2012, 04:50:30 AM
nt sure if it was mentioned but up north in moshav 'ein zivan' is a small chocolate fac. if u have time its worth it make sure do the workshopnt just tour i eat so much chocolate i couldnt say the c word without getting sick for a month ;D ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on September 09, 2012, 06:01:57 AM
nt sure if it was mentioned but up north in moshav 'ein zivan' is a small chocolate fac. if u have time its worth it make sure do the workshopnt just tour i eat so much chocolate i couldnt say the c word without getting sick for a month ;D ;D
I did the same at Degania. I pretended I went for my kids, but....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on October 05, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
yes, its amazing!

you can get shwarma with gas for discount
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on October 05, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
Trocadero
 30 Rue Nahalat Benyamin, Tel Aviv, Israel

France GOOD EXPENSIVE food .
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sky121 on October 05, 2012, 03:38:26 PM
Trocadero
 30 Rue Nahalat Benyamin, Tel Aviv, Israel

France GOOD EXPENSIVE food .

What's the hechsher here? Any pics?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 06, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
you can get shwarma with gas for discount
I can't imagine the taste is any good
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on October 06, 2012, 05:12:51 PM
Tzidkiyahu on Rechov Bais Hadefus in Givaat Shaul had a steak there was "Not Bad".
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on October 06, 2012, 08:27:56 PM
Tzidkiyahu on Rechov Bais Hadefus in Givaat Shaul had a steak there was "Not Bad".

personally speaking i don't like Tzidkiyahu  , every few week it's under a new owner ship .
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on October 06, 2012, 08:31:06 PM
What's the hechsher here? Any pics?

i don't remember , and not i don't have pictures .
the food is Delicious, but bad service
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on October 06, 2012, 11:05:31 PM
Rabbi Rubin's hechsher
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on October 11, 2012, 04:35:20 AM
Coupon for chorus al haesh at groupon. I'd be happy to send a referral if you'd like, and then I'll become rich on the bonus. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on October 11, 2012, 04:50:33 AM
Coupon for chorus al haesh at groupon. I'd be happy to send a referral if you'd like, and then I'll become rich on the bonus. :)
Works also by café korus or korusin?
Does the referral help if I don't purchase?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 11, 2012, 07:01:28 AM
Pargiyot at Korus are the best.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Yitz on October 11, 2012, 08:28:41 AM
I had a shwarma at Halo Taimon in Jerusalem last night. It was really good and it was full of meat, I could not finish it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 11, 2012, 08:31:22 AM
Does groupon.co.il accept american cc's?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on October 11, 2012, 09:26:46 AM
Does groupon.co.il accept american cc's?
They haven't for me.
Nor could I use any of the shopping malls to gain points or cb, but I haven't tried in a few months.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on October 11, 2012, 08:59:01 PM
the armor corp is very interesting it has the most tanks of all museums in the world for start its located in latrun on the way to tel aviv from jerusalem (next door to mini israel which i was told isnt worth your time)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 12, 2012, 01:41:55 AM
Does groupon.co.il accept american cc's?
yes, when you pay with paypal
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 12, 2012, 01:42:34 AM
I had a shwarma at Halo Taimon in Jerusalem last night. It was really good and it was full of meat, I could not finish it.
nice report!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 12, 2012, 01:46:45 AM
yes, when you pay with paypal

Thanks...ended up using israeli cc
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 12, 2012, 09:48:47 AM
Thanks...ended up using israeli cc

What did you buy?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 12, 2012, 10:05:06 AM
What did you buy?

Coupon for chorus al haesh at groupon.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on October 18, 2012, 06:19:43 PM
I was today in Netanya eating at Cafe Del Mar, I notice on the bill that they charged me 16 shekel more, so after asking then I found out that they charged me the tip included (and we only ate there for 146, so they basically charged the tip מלבר).
So all of you out there, beware! Don't pay those israelis more than they deserve,  especially if they don't give you exactly what it said on the menu (they usually don't and it caused then to lose their tip -and save me some money- more than once)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on October 18, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
I was today in Netanya eating at Cafe Del Mar, I notice on the bill that they charged me 16 shekel more, so after asking then I found out that they charged me the tip included (and we only ate there for 146, so they basically charged the tip מלבר).
So all of you out there, beware! Don't pay those israelis more than they deserve,  especially if they don't give you exactly what it said on the menu (they usually don't and it caused then to lose their tip -and save me some money- more than once)
Is that restaurant better than Mul Hayam? Any good recommendations for hotels etc in Netanya?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on October 18, 2012, 07:11:47 PM
Is that restaurant better than Mul Hayam? Any good recommendations for hotels etc in Netanya?
About the same just that you sit outside.
Last year I stayed at the Island Suites, it was new and very nice.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on October 18, 2012, 07:30:39 PM
Been in Island suites, they put their prices up much higher now..
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 18, 2012, 08:10:03 PM
Mul Hayam had good onion soup, IIRC.

#justsayin'
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 20, 2012, 12:25:41 PM
I was today in Netanya eating at Cafe Del Mar, I notice on the bill that they charged me 16 shekel more, so after asking then I found out that they charged me the tip included (and we only ate there for 146, so they basically charged the tip מלבר).
So all of you out there, beware! Don't pay those israelis more than they deserve,  especially if they don't give you exactly what it said on the menu (they usually don't and it caused then to lose their tip -and save me some money- more than once)
Keyara too. Very disgusting. It doesn't indicate on the receipt that that total includes tip. it just says all the items you ordered and says "Total". If you don't add everything up you would never know
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 20, 2012, 03:06:21 PM
Keyara too. Very disgusting. It doesn't indicate on the receipt that that total includes tip. it just says all the items you ordered and says "Total". If you don't add everything up you would never know

-1

It very clearly says "Sheirut %12". In fact, if you give them an eLuna.com coupon, then it changes to "Sheirut %13.33" (I think) so that your coupon doesn't affect their precious tip. Now THAT'S chutzpah. :o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: shmuelb on October 20, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
-1

It very clearly says "Sheirut %12". In fact, if you give them an eLuna.com coupon, then it changes to "Sheirut %13.33" (I think) so that your coupon doesn't affect their precious tip. Now THAT'S chutzpah. :o

Why is that chutzpa? If you have a coupon for a free meal, the waiters should not get tipped the same? Unsmooth, maybe. Chutzpa?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on October 20, 2012, 05:18:37 PM
Why is that chutzpa? If you have a coupon for a free meal, the waiters should not get tipped the same? Unsmooth, maybe. Chutzpa?
recommended tip is 12%, not 13.33%
they can ask nicely and explain.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 20, 2012, 07:04:33 PM
recommended tip is 12%, not 13.33%
they can ask nicely and explain.

+1

Not to mention the fact that in Israel, the standard is %10. They are putting you on the spot, since the vast majority of people would never want to sound so cheap to ask them to chop off %2, even if the service was lacking.

Similar to how Papagaio adds 2 NIS/person to the bill automatically as "optziyot avtacha" (security option), a "tip" for the security guard. Never mind the fact that I never asked for a security guard (they are required to have one, it's their problem), and never mind the fact that half the time he's not even there - first they put it on the bill, then you have to feel awkward if you don't want to pay it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on October 21, 2012, 01:26:46 AM
+1

Not to mention the fact that in Israel, the standard is %10. They are putting you on the spot, since the vast majority of people would never want to sound so cheap to ask them to chop off %2, even if the service was lacking.

Similar to how Papagaio adds 2 NIS/person to the bill automatically as "optziyot avtacha" (security option), a "tip" for the security guard. Never mind the fact that I never asked for a security guard (they are required to have one, it's their problem), and never mind the fact that half the time he's not even there - first they put it on the bill, then you have to feel awkward if you don't want to pay it.

let me tell you something ... i was in Lamaris not while ago , and the service was very bad , thy force me to pay full tip .
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 21, 2012, 04:55:38 AM
let me tell you something ... i was in Lamaris not while ago , and the service was very bad , thy force me to pay full tip .

2 x wrong ≠ right. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 21, 2012, 08:31:25 AM
+1

Not to mention the fact that in Israel, the standard is %10. They are putting you on the spot, since the vast majority of people would never want to sound so cheap to ask them to chop off %2, even if the service was lacking.

Similar to how Papagaio adds 2 NIS/person to the bill automatically as "optziyot avtacha" (security option), a "tip" for the security guard. Never mind the fact that I never asked for a security guard (they are required to have one, it's their problem), and never mind the fact that half the time he's not even there - first they put it on the bill, then you have to feel awkward if you don't want to pay it.
who said theyre required to have one?

i always check if hes there when i come in. if hes not, i ask to have it removed
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on October 21, 2012, 08:40:37 AM
who said theyre required to have one?

I was friendly with a security guard at one of the restaurants here, and he suddenly stopped showing up - there was no security guard at all. Some time later, I met him working somewhere else, and asked him why he abandoned ship. He said there's some kind of governmental body that decides which establishments need security guards and which don't, and the restaurant he used to work at was apparently deemed safe enough to be taken off the list.

Likewise, I have a friend who manages a small shopping center in Jerusalem, which is on the border between "shopping center" and "shopping mall". They paid a lawyer thousands of shekels to ensure they be categorized as a shopping center. Why? Because the law requires malls to hire security guards, and they don't want to have to pay extra salaries.

My point? Virtually nobody hires security guards just for the fun of it. It's an extra salary (or two) to pay, and (in some cases) extra equipment to buy. If an establishment has security guards, you can be %99.9 sure that it's because someone is forcing them to.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Shmelly on October 22, 2012, 04:22:40 PM
Anyone know of a good agent/website for apartments in Israel? I need one for 10 days in November. If there's a thread devoted to this please point me in the right direction.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 22, 2012, 04:35:07 PM
Anyone know of a good agent/website for apartments in Israel? I need one for 10 days in November. If there's a thread devoted to this please point me in the right direction.

Diradirect.com is one of the many

There are several threads about apts in Israel...search...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Shmelly on October 22, 2012, 04:47:39 PM
Tried searching, didn't find, which is why I asked for assistance. Thanks.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 22, 2012, 04:53:41 PM
Tried searching, didn't find, which is why I asked for assistance. Thanks.

Where in Israel btw?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on October 22, 2012, 08:23:20 PM
Jerusalem

1 master + 2 bed room , big living .
in the center of Jerusalem email him
Pool770@gmail.com
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 23, 2012, 08:52:38 AM
whats up with all the restaurant closings of late?

lattecini, red heifer, mamilla deli and now i think maxin (number disconnected)

anything mehadrin open up recently?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 23, 2012, 08:54:24 AM
whats up with all the restaurant closings of late?

 red heifer,


When was this?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on October 23, 2012, 09:38:41 AM
When was this?
Quite some time already, I went there after שבועות just to find some ruins in its place.  :(
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Smartypantz on October 23, 2012, 09:39:14 AM
So what are the best options now for mehadrin?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: soursticks on October 23, 2012, 12:09:11 PM
for rentals check out http://www.rentalsofdistinction.com/

great apartments -  may find something cheaper, but these are very nice apts
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 23, 2012, 01:09:54 PM
Quite some time already, I went there after שבועות just to find some ruins in its place.  :(

That place was good
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 23, 2012, 01:10:41 PM
Any one hear of Ticho house? Its like in museum i think....How is it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 23, 2012, 01:31:24 PM
Any one hear of Ticho house? Its like in museum i think....How is it?
I found it to be like a old age home cafeteria, but people do like it.

Go on a nice day, they have a very pretty garden outside.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 23, 2012, 03:50:51 PM
I found it to be like a old age home cafeteria, but people do like it.

Go on a nice day, they have a very pretty garden outside.

+100
Theres even a section in the menu called "Senior Citizen Menu"

On Tuesdays they have a buffet of some pastas, salads, wines and cheeses which IMHO wasnt so good
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on October 24, 2012, 08:23:25 PM
I enjoyed it spent 3+ hours there with friends one evening!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on October 24, 2012, 10:34:51 PM
Any one hear of Ticho house? Its like in museum i think....How is it?
They also have a jazz evening, and a different music morning. Perhaps Tuesday evening and Friday morning, but call in advance to confirm.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 25, 2012, 01:15:39 AM
They also have a jazz evening, and a different music morning. Perhaps Tuesday evening and Friday morning, but call in advance to confirm.

It's on Tuesday evenings.  I just didn't think there was much of a selection or that the food was too good.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Shmelly on October 27, 2012, 09:36:42 PM
I am leaving to Israel in 2 weeks with my wife and 2 year old, and due to extenuating circumstances I have not planned a single aspect of my trip yet. My first stop is this thread, but with 55 pages and much of it outdated, its very hard to really get anything done.

The only thing I have planned so far is one night at the Le Meriden Dead Sea. Luckily I do have family there (in Jerusalem) and can leave my child by them for that entire day and parts of other days, but a large portion of my trip will need to be kid friendly.

Both of us have not been there in 8+ years, so everything is "new" to us. Any help at all would be appreciated. If need be, I am willing to pay someone to plan my trip for me, including but not limited to accommodations, car, phone, activities, and food.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on October 27, 2012, 11:36:19 PM
I am leaving to Israel in 2 weeks with my wife and 2 year old, and due to extenuating circumstances I have not planned a single aspect of my trip yet. My first stop is this thread, but with 55 pages and much of it outdated, its very hard to really get anything done.

The only thing I have planned so far is one night at the Le Meriden Dead Sea. Luckily I do have family there (in Jerusalem) and can leave my child by them for that entire day and parts of other days, but a large portion of my trip will need to be kid friendly.

Both of us have not been there in 8+ years, so everything is "new" to us. Any help at all would be appreciated. If need be, I am willing to pay someone to plan my trip for me, including but not limited to accommodations, car, phone, activities, and food.
If you need recommendations for a guide, pm me.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 28, 2012, 03:10:43 PM
I am leaving to Israel in 2 weeks with my wife and 2 year old, and due to extenuating circumstances I have not planned a single aspect of my trip yet. My first stop is this thread, but with 55 pages and much of it outdated, its very hard to really get anything done.

The only thing I have planned so far is one night at the Le Meriden Dead Sea. Luckily I do have family there (in Jerusalem) and can leave my child by them for that entire day and parts of other days, but a large portion of my trip will need to be kid friendly.

Both of us have not been there in 8+ years, so everything is "new" to us. Any help at all would be appreciated. If need be, I am willing to pay someone to plan my trip for me, including but not limited to accommodations, car, phone, activities, and food.

how long are you coming for, what are you interested in seeing/doing?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Shmelly on October 28, 2012, 11:06:55 PM
We will be there for 10 days. We are open to anything.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 29, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
We will be there for 10 days. We are open to anything.

dates? i'll try and help you plan things out...what day will you be at dead sea?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on October 29, 2012, 02:47:11 PM
 YudiG ur in israel??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 29, 2012, 02:51:59 PM
YudiG ur in israel??

yes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 30, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
any mehadrin sushi places similar to the old taiku around in jerusalem?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 30, 2012, 03:41:21 PM
any mehadrin sushi places similar to the old taiku around in jerusalem?

RYU?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 30, 2012, 03:42:30 PM
RYU?

anything besides that...?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 30, 2012, 03:42:43 PM
RYU?
They sell sushi?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 30, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
any mehadrin sushi places similar to the old taiku around in jerusalem?
Keyara sells sushi as I'm sure you know.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 30, 2012, 03:44:58 PM
They sell sushi?

http://ryu.rest-e.co.il/arest%20menu/c3232.php
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 30, 2012, 03:46:36 PM
They sell sushi?

Yes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 30, 2012, 04:49:22 PM
osaka
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 30, 2012, 04:57:54 PM
osaka

Deliver?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 30, 2012, 05:04:31 PM
yes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 30, 2012, 05:04:55 PM
they have an ad in this weeks pirsumit
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 30, 2012, 05:08:05 PM
they have an ad in this weeks pirsumit

saw it...is it good? nice ambiance?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on October 30, 2012, 05:19:31 PM
I am leaving to Israel in 2 weeks with my wife and 2 year old, and due to extenuating circumstances I have not planned a single aspect of my trip yet. My first stop is this thread, but with 55 pages and much of it outdated, its very hard to really get anything done.

The only thing I have planned so far is one night at the Le Meriden Dead Sea. Luckily I do have family there (in Jerusalem) and can leave my child by them for that entire day and parts of other days, but a large portion of my trip will need to be kid friendly.

Both of us have not been there in 8+ years, so everything is "new" to us. Any help at all would be appreciated. If need be, I am willing to pay someone to plan my trip for me, including but not limited to accommodations, car, phone, activities, and food.
I can give you a few good places but diff ends of the country ... first i dnt know when your coming but the museum for the blind I myself was not there and i'm in israel for 4 years (gotta be a tourist to see the country)but been told it is worth your time and money problem is the usally pretty booked up it is worth calling them now to make sure you get a slot while your here (I NEEDED TO CALL FOR MY MOTHER 3 MONTHS IN ADVANCE )up north you have the chocolate factory de-karina great place (went twice)do the work shop totally worth it pm if you need more help
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 30, 2012, 05:27:25 PM
saw it...is it good? nice ambiance?
Never had from there but I never had "good" sushi in Israel yet...you have?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 30, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
I can give you a few good places but diff ends of the country ... first i dnt know when your coming but the museum for the blind I myself was not there and i'm in israel for 4 years (gotta be a tourist to see the country)but been told it is worth your time and money problem is the usally pretty booked up it is worth calling them now to make sure you get a slot while your here (I NEEDED TO CALL FOR MY MOTHER 3 MONTHS IN ADVANCE )up north you have the chocolate factory de-karina great place (went twice)do the work shop totally worth it pm if you need more help

funny... i sent him same info...lol

Never had from there but I never had "good" sushi in Israel yet...you have?


i had their takeout and it was pretty good
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 30, 2012, 06:22:58 PM


i had their takeout and it was pretty good

Takeout sushi?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 30, 2012, 06:30:20 PM
saw it...is it good? nice ambiance?
i dont think theres any ambience at all to speak of, but the sushis alright
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 30, 2012, 06:34:45 PM
i dont think theres any ambience at all to speak of, but the sushis alright

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 30, 2012, 06:47:22 PM
@PlatinumGuy...where have you had good sushi in jlem?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 30, 2012, 07:18:19 PM
@PlatinumGuy...where have you had good sushi in jlem?
...

(Moish is gonna kill me)

Sushi Rechavia. I take my own Troimois Umaaseros

I never sat there though.

Grilled Salmon is great
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on October 30, 2012, 07:21:24 PM
...

(Moish is gonna kill me)

Sushi Rechavia. I take my own Troimois Umaaseros

I never sat there though.

Mayim Genuvim Yimtoku
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 30, 2012, 07:23:02 PM
...

(Moish is gonna kill me)

Sushi Rechavia. I take my own Troimois Umaaseros

I never sat there though.
What's the he hechsher there?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 30, 2012, 07:23:40 PM
What's the he hechsher there?
Rabbanut
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 30, 2012, 09:32:13 PM
there are many more potential problems with sushi besides the terumos and maasros aspect
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 30, 2012, 09:37:09 PM
there are many more potential problems with sushi besides the terumos and maasros aspect
I trust rabbanut for those problems

Let's not go into this again.

Post the potential problems for people to be aware of, I won't reply.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 30, 2012, 09:50:25 PM
for one, the nori sheets are infested with bugs
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 31, 2012, 03:00:37 AM
for one, the nori sheets are infested with bugs
They have to consist of 50% or more of bugs, otherwise they are botul brov. Not to mention it is quite easy to ask them what nori they use.
Next?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 31, 2012, 03:49:10 AM
They have to consist of 50% or more of bugs, otherwise they are botul brov. Not to mention it is quite easy to ask them what nori they use.
Next?


boom. 1-0 to chaikel...round 2.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 31, 2012, 03:50:24 AM
They have to consist of 50% or more of bugs, otherwise they are botul brov. Not to mention it is quite easy to ask them what nori they use.
Isnt a בריה considered דבר חשוב and thus not batel berov?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on October 31, 2012, 05:40:05 AM
Isnt a בריה considered דבר חשוב and thus not batel berov?
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on October 31, 2012, 08:11:18 AM

boom. 1-0 to moish...round 2.  :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on October 31, 2012, 08:16:22 AM
Doesn't a kashrus thread already exist?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 31, 2012, 08:28:41 AM
boom. 1-0 to moish...round 2.  :P


lol
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on October 31, 2012, 08:40:29 AM
Isn't a בריה considered דבר חשוב and thus not batel berov?
1. Since we hold that all bugs are Nosen Ta'am L'fgam, it will be botul brov, as the Rama and the Aruch Hashulchan (who, according to R' Moshe, is more reliable than the Mishna Brura) hold that a berya which is pogum is botul. This is due to the fact that berya isn't botul due to chashivus, and obviously a bug is not a davar chashuv
2. If it's squashed it's not a berya
3. If it's not visible to the naked eye, it's not assur (personally I've yet to "see" a bug in any nori)
4. Berya is only not botul md'rabbanan, so if there is a sofek whether or not there is bugs, it would be ok (and there is a chazkas kashrus until you see 3 bugs in the actual food)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on October 31, 2012, 12:23:59 PM
you guys know that there are people that sell platters from their house(better hechser ) better priced !!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on October 31, 2012, 01:13:57 PM
you guys know that there are people that sell platters from their house(better hechser ) better priced !!

true but if you want to go out....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 31, 2012, 02:23:41 PM
there are many more potential problems with sushi besides the terumos and maasros aspect

Is that sushi rechavia? Or sushi anywhere in israel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on October 31, 2012, 02:24:38 PM
you guys know that there are people that sell platters from their house(better hechser ) better priced !!

But not better tasting...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on October 31, 2012, 05:31:06 PM
true but if you want to go out....
Eat it in a park. Nicer atmosphere...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on October 31, 2012, 08:20:47 PM
Is that sushi rechavia? Or sushi anywhere in israel?
in general, sushi without a proper hashgacha
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MendyP on November 04, 2012, 02:09:26 PM
Can anyone recommend what the best travel guidebook is for Israel?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 04, 2012, 02:38:17 PM
1. Since we hold that all bugs are Nosen Ta'am L'fgam, it will be botul brov, as the Rama and the Aruch Hashulchan (who, according to R' Moshe, is more reliable than the Mishna Brura) hold that a berya which is pogum is botul. This is due to the fact that berya isn't botul due to chashivus, and obviously a bug is not a davar chashuv
2. If it's squashed it's not a berya
3. If it's not visible to the naked eye, it's not assur (personally I've yet to "see" a bug in any nori)
4. Berya is only not botul md'rabbanan, so if there is a sofek whether or not there is bugs, it would be ok (and there is a chazkas kashrus until you see 3 bugs in the actual food)
So why did you pasken for me that I can't eat it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 04, 2012, 06:03:17 PM
So why did you pasken for me that I can't eat it?
the bugs ARE indeed nikur thus rendering moot the whole bittul conversation
a quick google search might help. see here http://www.kosherconsumer.org/sushi.htm etc

as far as bittul is concerned (which really isnt relevant anyways)
1. besides for seahorses, baby crustaceans (like shrimp) are prevalent as well. it would be quite difficult to label them 'pagum'
4. we dont say safek derabanan lekula when its huchzak, which apparently it is according to the kashrus organizations
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 04, 2012, 06:35:07 PM
the bugs ARE indeed nikur thus rendering moot the whole bittul conversation
a quick google search might help. see here http://www.kosherconsumer.org/sushi.htm etc

as far as bittul is concerned (which really isnt relevant anyways)
1. besides for seahorses, baby crustaceans (like shrimp) are prevalent as well. it would be quite difficult to label them 'pagum'
4. we dont say safek derabanan lekula when its huchzak, which apparently it is according to the kashrus organizations
While I appreciate your insight, my question was directed at Chaikel, as I understood from him there are other problems, that he didn't address
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 04, 2012, 08:07:39 PM
So why did you pasken for me that I can't eat it?
I don't pasken. I spoke to someone, and IIRC, what he said was these may be other problems when dealing with rabbinute, and best stay away.
the bugs ARE indeed nikur thus rendering moot the whole bittul conversation
a quick google search might help. see here http://www.kosherconsumer.org/sushi.htm etc
Would you mind showing me? I didn't notice it saying that the bugs are nikur in the linked article.

as far as bittul is concerned (which really isnt relevant anyways)
1. besides for seahorses, baby crustaceans (like shrimp) are prevalent as well. it would be quite difficult to label them 'pagum'
There are whole seahorses and shrimp in nori? This I have to see

4. we dont say safek derabanan lekula when its huchzak, which apparently it is according to the kashrus organizations
1. We don't?
2. I haven't learned through the whole huchzak sugya, but it is my understanding that it is a creation by those fueling the whole "you can't eat anything 'cause it has bugs" fad.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 05, 2012, 03:56:25 AM
Thoughts on this article that the chief rabbinate is recommending against buying gush katif lettuce?
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4300133,00.html
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 05, 2012, 04:04:00 AM
Thoughts on this article that the chief rabbinate is recommending against buying gush katif lettuce?
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4300133,00.html
How in thw world does the existence of this lettuce affect the hlacha of regular lettuce?
איכא דרכא אחרינא?

Probably just a ynet mess up.

While R Ammer is not political , its hard to be certain who 'researched' it. At any rate, the question has very little to do w halcha. If its unhealthy one must refrain from eating it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 05, 2012, 07:43:42 AM
Any interesting eats in bnei brak?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 05, 2012, 08:06:07 AM
alo teiman shwarma...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 05, 2012, 08:41:18 AM
alo teiman shwarma...
Besides that... Been there enough times..

Anything else?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 05, 2012, 01:28:22 PM
Besides that... Been there enough times..

Anything else?

El Gaucho is one block over into Ramat Gan.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 05, 2012, 01:55:03 PM
For any Americans currently in Israel who didn't vote yet, your only chance left is tomorrow (tuesday, election day) at the American embassy from 8am-12pm, that's right, 4 hours!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 05, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
For any Americans currently in Israel who didn't vote yet, your only chance left is tomorrow (tuesday, election day) at the American embassy from 8am-12pm, that's right, 4 hours!

i saw someone do it today at the consulate
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 05, 2012, 02:53:37 PM
i saw someone do it today at the consulate
In Jerusalem?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 05, 2012, 03:11:50 PM
In Jerusalem?
yes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Shmelly on November 09, 2012, 12:23:44 PM
Leaving to Israel on Sunday for 10 days. What are the can't-miss restaurants in Israel? Perusing this thread I see tons of names, but which ones should I absolutely make sure to go to? Jerusalem, Dead Sea, up North - anywhere.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 10, 2012, 03:13:50 PM
Leaving to Israel on Sunday for 10 days. What are the can't-miss restaurants in Israel? Perusing this thread I see tons of names, but which ones should I absolutely make sure to go to? Jerusalem, Dead Sea, up North - anywhere.
If you're a steak person, I don't think there is really any "can't miss" places. If you want a good shwarma, hit up Halo Taimon, and a good falafel, see that whole thread.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 03:34:04 PM
Leaving to Israel on Sunday for 10 days. What are the can't-miss restaurants in Israel? Perusing this thread I see tons of names, but which ones should I absolutely make sure to go to? Jerusalem, Dead Sea, up North - anywhere.

Sheyan, Papagaio, Modern, El Gaucho. Be sure to get %10 coupons for each of those from eLuna.com before you go.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 10, 2012, 03:50:54 PM
There really is mo cant miss place here in IL. Its not like the kotel "cant miss"  everything is just ok here IMHO. Except my chulent and kugal ;-) lol
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 10, 2012, 03:50:54 PM
Sheyan, Papagaio, Modern, El Gaucho. Be sure to get %10 coupons for each of those from eLuna.com before you go.
And not Keyara?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 10, 2012, 03:53:29 PM
And not Keyara?
+1. Sheyan is definitely can miss IMO

And I'd put Entrecote before all of the ones in the list
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 03:58:05 PM
And not Keyara?

Very limited menu, IMHO. And their steak is nothing to write home about.

 
+1. Sheyan is definitely can miss IMO

You're replacing Sheyan with Keyara?

 

And I'd put Entrecote before all of the ones in the list

Seriously?!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 10, 2012, 03:59:19 PM
Sheyan, Papagaio, Modern, El Gaucho. Be sure to get %10 coupons for each of those from eLuna.com before you go.
I've never been there but IIRC a DDF member posting they're kinda not kosher anymore. Hope I'm wrong so I can try it out
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 04:01:08 PM
I've never been there but IIRC a DDF member posting they're kinda not kosher anymore. Hope I'm wrong so I can try it out

Link?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 10, 2012, 04:02:09 PM
i would put entrocote and sheyan befor keayra, (way to overpriced for not such gr8 food) though i would even say a gr8 burger from burgers bar or something is always a good bite to get, though i used to love gong, im not sure if anyone remebers that place at kikar tzion if i recall
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 10, 2012, 04:03:05 PM
Very limited menu, IMHO. And their steak is nothing to write home about.

Maybe was just me...every time I go there all the food tastes more or less the same and when I leave I always say I should've just gone downstairs to Keyara.
Sometimes less is better. They also different specials so you can get things not on their menu.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 10, 2012, 04:27:35 PM
Maybe was just me...every time I go there all the food tastes more or less the same and when I leave I always say I should've just gone downstairs to Keyara.
Sometimes less is better. They also different specials so you can get things not on their menu.
+1.
Compared to Sheyans menu, Keyara is a Sunday paper. Plus Sheyan gives you microscopic portions
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 10, 2012, 04:40:23 PM
Link?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20780.msg314561#msg314561
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 10, 2012, 05:14:37 PM
And I'd put Entrecote before all of the ones in the list
I was just there. Solid, but nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 10, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
I was just there. Solid, but nothing to write home about.
And Sheyan is?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 06:05:56 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20780.msg314561#msg314561

That's referring to the Jerusalem one. The Ramat Gan one is Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 06:06:11 PM
And Sheyan is?

Yes.

+1.
Compared to Sheyans menu, Keyara is a Sunday paper. Plus Sheyan gives you microscopic portions

It may have less paper, but it has more to choose from. And I don't recall ever feeling that my portion was too small.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 10, 2012, 06:13:32 PM
That's referring to the Jerusalem one. The Ramat Gan one is Mehadrin.

Good to know
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
Re: Entrecôte...

i would put entrocote and sheyan befor keayra,
I was just there. Solid, but nothing to write home about.

I don't know... I like their food somewhat, but have you seen what their idea of "variety" is?

Chicken 300g
Chicken 500g
Chicken 700g
Chicken 900g
Steak 300g
Steak 500g
Steak 700g


To paraphrase from Shark Tank: "For that reason alone... I'm out."
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 06:36:17 PM
So would you say are the top 3 restaurants in Israel, doesn't matter the cuisine or if they are dairy/meat. Gonna be there soon...

Rank.... now! :)

(Or is there no way I'm going to find consensus on this? :P )

ETA:

FWIW, I've heard the steak at the David Hotel in tel aviv is outstanding, and I've heard that Apple and Pear is very, very good; black bar burger as well, and pizza hut.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 06:43:10 PM
So would you say are the top 3 restaurants in Israel, doesn't matter the cuisine or if they are dairy/meat. Gonna be there soon...

Rank.... now! :)

(Or is there no way I'm going to find consensus on this? :P )

ETA:

FWIW, I've heard the steak at the David Hotel in tel aviv is outstanding, and I've heard that Apple and Pear is very, very good; black bar burger as well, and pizza hut.

Well... based on your last paragraph, I must ask you this before I can give my opinion: are you makpid on Mehadrin hashgachas?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 06:47:43 PM
I must assume based on your last post that these are not mehadrin? :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 10, 2012, 07:03:20 PM
black bar and burger has a few locations. most arent kosher, but one has a rabbanut (non mehadrin)

agas vetapuach is under the ou
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 10, 2012, 07:04:47 PM
Very limited menu, IMHO. And their steak is nothing to write home about.
.. and thats being generous

sheyan is far superior imho.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 07:19:30 PM
I must assume based on your last post that these are not mehadrin? :P

As moish said...

black bar and burger has a few locations. most arent kosher, but one has a rabbanut (non mehadrin)

Also, I'd be pretty shocked if the steak at the David Hotel in Tel Aviv turns out to be Mehadrin.

So, if you want recommendations... what's your standard?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 10, 2012, 07:20:11 PM
.. and thats being generous

sheyan is far superior imho.

Thank you!!! Finally, someone is backing me up. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 07:20:47 PM
I'd prefer mehadrin (though, it's been awhile since I've been in Israel, so if the standards have changed...)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 10, 2012, 09:24:50 PM
if youll be in israel before feb 11, this agas vetapuach groupon might be of interest to you (only if your meal would be under 500 shekel)

http://www.groupon.co.il/deals/jerusalem-iw/agasvetapuach-C02596471/12815352?nlp=&CID=IL_CRM_1_0_0_316&a=1955
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 09:32:42 PM
if youll be in israel before feb 11, this agas vetapuach groupon might be of interest to you (only if your meal would be under 500 shekel)

http://www.groupon.co.il/deals/jerusalem-iw/agasvetapuach-C02596471/12815352?nlp=&CID=IL_CRM_1_0_0_316&a=1955

Many thanks.

How do you figure the 500 shek limit? I see 25 for 50 and 48 for 100? I don't see a mention of a limit (or my hebrew is not good enough to see one).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 10, 2012, 09:34:16 PM
because if you would spend over 500, youd be better off with a 10% off coupon which is easily found (such as on eluna.co.il)

(and i need to modify my above statement to 520)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 09:39:10 PM
Hmm...

If I'm spending 600 shek, I can buy  6 x 100 shek deals and spend 288 shek, right?

So how would 10% off 600 shek be better than this deal?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 10, 2012, 09:53:31 PM
מימוש של 1 לאדם/זוג
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:06:25 PM
Got it now. Thanks for the groupon!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 10, 2012, 10:29:56 PM
Maybe was just me...every time I go there all the food tastes more or less the same
Not only you. Everyone knows everything there tastes like Soy sauce.

Potatoes are great as well as fondant dessert. Ask for the garlic chicken, not on the menu but the only edible thing there
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:40:57 PM
So would you say are the top 3 restaurants in Israel, doesn't matter the cuisine or if they are dairy/meat. Gonna be there soon...

Rank.... now! :)

So no opinions?

To simplify, make it any restaurant and state level of kashrus.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 10, 2012, 10:47:12 PM
Deca in tel aviv is the best
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:54:05 PM
Great. Platguy has started a list.

1) deca -- Meat? Milk? Hashgacha?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 01:12:29 AM
Papagaio
Lots and lots of meat, none of it great.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 01:16:07 AM
My own suggestions, though it's been more than 3 years since I had them:

TLV: Alter-Nativ (Good pasta dishes, milkshake, and creme brulee)
Tiberias: Cafe C
Tzfat: Felafel place at the end of the midrachov on the left is great.
J'lem: Cafe Rimon Meat (Don't know current kashrus status) had an incredible philly steak sandwich, though IIRC chuchem claimed that since they reopened it's not good anymore?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 11, 2012, 01:31:11 AM
Not only you. Everyone knows everything there tastes like Soy sauce.

Potatoes are great as well as fondant dessert. Ask for the garlic chicken, not on the menu but the only edible thing there
Are you saying that keyara is better? Or just that sheyan is bad?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 11, 2012, 01:32:14 AM
Are you saying that keyara is better? Or just that sheyan is bad?
Keyara is great. I find their service a bit overbearing so generally eat at Modern. Between those 2 I'm all set.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 11, 2012, 01:56:42 AM
My own suggestions, though it's been more than 3 years since I had them:

TLV: Alter-Nativ (Good pasta dishes, milkshake, and creme brulee)
Tiberias: Cafe C
Tzfat: Felafel place at the end of the midrachov on the left is great.
J'lem: Cafe Rimon Meat (Don't know current kashrus status) had an incredible philly steak sandwich, though IIRC chuchem claimed that since they reopened it's not good anymore?

Rimon is under machpud today   And that Philly sand is still great
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 02:47:44 AM
Rimon is under machpud today   And that Philly sand is still great
I don't know Israeli hashgocha/politics at all.  Is machpud good or bad?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 11, 2012, 03:19:27 AM
Is machpud good or bad?
Yes. :P

EDIT: For a more accurate answer, I think most people will agree it's better than OU, not as good as Sheiris/Aguda
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 03:20:36 AM
Yes. :P
And people ask why I haven't been back to Israel in 2.5 years :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 03:21:02 AM
My own suggestions, though it's been more than 3 years since I had them:

TLV: Alter-Nativ (Good pasta dishes, milkshake, and creme brulee)
Tiberias: Cafe C
Tzfat: Felafel place at the end of the midrachov on the left is great.
J'lem: Cafe Rimon Meat (Don't know current kashrus status) had an incredible philly steak sandwich, though IIRC chuchem claimed that since they reopened it's not good anymore?

Thanks for the reccos, alter-nativ to my tel Aviv list.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:21:23 AM
I don't know Israeli hashgocha/politics at all.  Is machpud good or bad?

Yes. :P

This is the part where we start an Israel Kashrus Politics Master Thread. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 11, 2012, 03:22:22 AM
And people ask why I haven't been back to Israel in 2.5 years :P
Edited my post, with a slightly better answer
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 03:24:05 AM
Edited my post, with a slightly better answer
Well I ate at Papagaio, so I guess that means it remains good enough for me.

Good to know the philly steak sandwich is still good!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 03:25:15 AM
I guess papa is OU?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:25:30 AM
Lots and lots of meat, none of it great.

They've redone their menu more than twice since you we're here. We never get the all-you-can-eat option. Instead, we get a conjunto - a platter of steak, London broil, spring chicken, and mini-burgers. IOHO, it's very good. :)

AJK, you may want to consider it, although at this point the oilam is scaring me off of taking responsibility for that recommendation. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 11, 2012, 03:25:52 AM
Well I ate at Papagaio, so I guess that means it remains good enough for me.
People who don't generally eat OU, eat at Papagaio's. Something to do with the mashgiach. For more info you'll have to ask someone else (Paging moish?)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:26:07 AM
I guess papa is OU?

Yes. OU Israel Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 03:27:28 AM
They've redone their menu more than twice since you we're here. We never get the all-you-can-eat option. Instead, we get a conjunto - a platter of steak, London broil, spring chicken, and mini-burgers. IOHO, it's very good. :)
I hear ya'
Just was very disappointed at the quality of the meat from the all you can eat when we had it.  And at the Caiparinha for that matter.
Good to know they've improved.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 03:28:00 AM
People who don't generally eat OU, eat at Papagaio's. Something to do with the mashgiach. For more info you'll have to ask someone else (Paging moish?)
And people ask why I haven't been back to Israel in 2.5 years :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 03:28:40 AM
Yes. OU Israel Mehadrin.

Less reliable than American OU?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:30:56 AM
People who don't generally eat OU, eat at Papagaio's. Something to do with the mashgiach. For more info you'll have to ask someone else (Paging moish?)

I'm guessing you meant the other moish, but seeing as how I technically qualify for the name, I'll pitch in. ;D

Papagaio has had the same mashgiach for over two years now, IIRC. When visiting a "questionable" establishment or hotel, I like to ask the mashgiach questions to ensure that he knows what he's doing and what's going on. The Papagaio mashgiach passed with flying colors, to the point that even if he were hired by a lesser organization, I would trust him (personally) even if I wouldn't trust his organization.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 03:31:26 AM
Surprised (aside from Dan) I can't get a top 3 ranking from anyone who's been there more recently or lives there. If someone asked me what the three best restaurants in NYC were I'd tell you in a New York minute.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 11, 2012, 03:33:10 AM
Surprised (aside from Dan) I can't get a top 3 ranking from anyone who's been there more recently or lives there. If someone asked me what the three best restaurants in NYC were I'd tell you in a New York minute.
Like many here have said, there isn't really a "can't miss" eatery in Israel. When I was living abroad and would come visit, I would make sure to hit up Halo Taimon (well Masov back when it was ok), and Miros.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:33:58 AM
I hear ya'
Just was very disappointed at the quality of the meat from the all you can eat when we had it.  And at the Caiparinha for that matter.
Good to know they've improved.

The caprihana has always sucked, and still does. Papagaio is not the place to go if you appreciate a good cocktail. For that, Sheyan has a drink called the China Wall that is out of this world.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:34:25 AM
Less reliable than American OU?

Not necessarily. I'm just pointing out that they're not the same.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 03:34:34 AM
Like many here have said, there isn't really a "can't miss" eatery in Israel.

Musta missed that. But I don't need a cant miss eatery just the solid top 3 or whatever.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 03:35:38 AM
Like many here have said, there isn't really a "can't miss" eatery in Israel.
So sad that SYD, EZE, GRU, CDG, PEK, LAX, YVR, YUL, ORD, MIA, HKG, etc, etc have a can't miss eatery but Israel doesn't.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:36:04 AM
Surprised (aside from Dan) I can't get a top 3 ranking from anyone who's been there more recently or lives there. If someone asked me what the three best restaurants in NYC were I'd tell you in a New York minute.

Like many here have said, there isn't really a "can't miss" eatery in Israel. When I was living abroad and would come visit, I would make sure to hit up Halo Taimon, and Miros.

+1

There's also the fact that of the restaurants we like, we like each one for vastly different reasons. So to rank them in order of preference would be nearly impossible.

And I did list four in one post before... ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 03:50:49 AM
Reading the the first and last few pages of this thread, it seems papagaio is worth a visit, deca, alter-nativ, and sheyan.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 03:53:56 AM
Reading the the first and last few pages of this thread, it seems papagaio is worth a visit, deca, alter-nativ, and sheyan.
If the Cafe Rimon Philly Steak Sandwich is anything like it used to be (circa 2007 and 2009) then I wouldn't dare miss it.  They were closed during my 2010 visit.

Since then we've heard a negative review from Chuchem who said it's not like it used to be before they remodeled and a positive one from rots5.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 03:56:24 AM
If the Cafe Rimon Philly Steak Sandwich is anything like it used to be (circa 2007 and 2009) then I wouldn't dare miss it.  They were closed during my 2010 visit.

Since then we've heard a negative review from Chuchem who said it's not like it used to be before they remodeled and a positive one from rots5.

Mixed reviews here. My wife liked it; me, not so much.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 03:56:53 AM
My wife liked it; me, not so much.
Referring to the Philly Steak Sandwich? Or the restaurant in general?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 04:06:03 AM
Referring to the Philly Steak Sandwich? Or the restaurant in general?

The sandwich. For the restaurant in general, it's quite the opposite: I like it; my wife, not so much. ;)

The new decor looks nice, but she's not so crazy about their menu. (Neither am I, truth be told, but I just pick out the few things that I like.)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 04:26:44 AM
Reading the the first and last few pages of this thread, it seems papagaio is worth a visit, deca, alter-nativ, and sheyan.

Make sure to check eLuna.com for %10 off coupons for each place (they may not have them all, but they have many restaurants), and print them before you leave home (restaurants will generally not apply the discount if you just display it on your phone screen).

Though if you find yourself stranded, needing a coupon and having nowhere to print it once you're here, you're more than welcome to swing by my place to pick one up. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 11, 2012, 04:33:46 AM
If the Cafe Rimon Philly Steak Sandwich is anything like it used to be (circa 2007 and 2009) then I wouldn't dare miss it.  They were closed during my 2010 visit.

Since then we've heard a negative review from Chuchem who said it's not like it used to be before they remodeled and a positive one from rots5.

I dont think it changed much even from before they remodeled to be honest its all very much the same food, there buy one get one free Weds night burgers were also a very big hit
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 04:42:10 AM
I fed dont think it changed much

?

 
there buy one get one free Wes's night burgers were also a very big hit

It must be, considering how often they feel the need to spam my cell phone with text messages advertising it. :o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 11, 2012, 05:48:12 AM
my favorite meat restaurants in Jerusalem (in no particular order):
1. Modern (only open for dinner on tues and thurs)
2. Sheyan (dont miss the battered mushroom appetizer)
3. Papagaio (brazilian table)
4. Cafe Rimon

its worthwhile to note that whats lacking on the israeli restaurant scene is consistency
thus, you are never guaranteed a good experience.
similarly, you cannot judge an establishment unless youve eaten there a few times

with that in mind, the retaurants listed above have given me a good experience most of the times ive dined there
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 05:58:01 AM
my favorite meat restaurants in Jerusalem (in no particular order):
1. Modern (only open for dinner on tues and thurs)
2. Sheyan (dont miss the battered mushroom appetizer)
3. Papagaio (brazilian table)
4. Cafe Rimon

its worthwhile to note that whats missing in the israeli restaurant scene is consistency
thus, you are never guaranteed a good experience.
similarly, you cannot judge an establishment unless youve eaten there a few times

with that in mind, the retaurants listed above have, imo, given me a good experience most of the times ive dined there

+1,000,000 to everything you wrote. CHPIBM. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 11, 2012, 06:01:58 AM
CHPIBM. :)
??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 06:43:09 AM
??

Couldn't have put it better myself. :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 08:56:52 AM
Make sure to check eLuna.com for %10 off coupons for each place (they may not have them all, but they have many restaurants), and print them before you leave home (restaurants will generally not apply the discount if you just display it on your phone screen).

Though if you find yourself stranded, needing a coupon and having nowhere to print it once you're here, you're more than welcome to swing by my place to pick one up. :)

Much obliged! :)

my favorite meat restaurants in Jerusalem (in no particular order):
1. Modern (only open for dinner on tues and thurs)
2. Sheyan (dont miss the battered mushroom appetizer)
3. Papagaio (brazilian table)
4. Cafe Rimon

its worthwhile to note that whats lacking on the israeli restaurant scene is consistency
thus, you are never guaranteed a good experience.
similarly, you cannot judge an establishment unless youve eaten there a few times

with that in mind, the retaurants listed above have given me a good experience most of the times ive dined there

Excellent, a list of top resaurants! See that wasn't so hard, everybody :)

Care to give it a shot for dairy?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 08:59:58 AM
Brazilian table at papagaio is two sentences is...? (having a hard time putting it together from the website)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
Brazilian table at papagaio is two sentences is...? (having a hard time putting it together from the website)

...a crapload of food. Lots of meat. ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 09:19:09 AM
...a crapload of food. Lots of meat. ;D

Is that different from the all-you-can-eat?

How much p/p?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 09:26:12 AM
Is that different from the all-you-can-eat?

How much p/p?

It is the all-you-can-eat.

I don't recall exactly how much it costs, as my wife and I haven't tried it in years - we don't really get our money's worth from it (we eat very little, quantity-wise).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on November 11, 2012, 12:38:44 PM
Anyone have an itinerary for a 12 day trip they can share?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: dealvr on November 11, 2012, 12:47:24 PM
Care to give it a shot for dairy?

I can't speak for the restaurant as a whole, but I just had the Pesto Gnocchi at The Speghettis in Mamilla and it was delicious. My wife got a salmon pasta and she liked it, too.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 11, 2012, 01:13:00 PM

Care to give it a shot for dairy?
Greg's,mamilla
Apples and pears
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on November 11, 2012, 02:40:34 PM
Dairy - Wafflebar on Paran. Hashgocha is Rav Rubin. It's part of a very popular chain, but the only one with a 'chareidi' hashgocha (for lack of a better description). The food has been pretty consistently good the few times I've been there (except the baked potato) although the menu is not that extensive.

Another place that seems to be unknown outside rechavia is a cafe on keren kayemet called ShushCafe, with a Chug Chasam Sofer PT teudah, and I know the Rabbi on top of the hashgocha in this specific place whose standards are quite reliable. My wife and I really have liked almost everything we've had there. Its a very European/Tel Avivian style cafe.

Both places have always been pretty busy, with a varied clientele of all stripes - 2 signs a place is good, especially here in our polarized society.
As always, double-check the hechsher anywhere you go here that it's an original with name address and date all correct.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 11, 2012, 02:44:33 PM
Waffle bar sucks

Good coffee though
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 11, 2012, 02:50:25 PM
Waffle bar sucks

Good coffee though

sucks is a pretty strong opinion...you might be in the minority on this one
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 11, 2012, 02:52:29 PM
sucks is a pretty strong opinion...you might be in the minority on this one

nope -1!   its pretty bad and def wayyy over priced for the small portion they give u,  a big plate is just a hoax to the small portion! and its not to gr8 to write home abput,
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 11, 2012, 02:54:26 PM
nope -1!   its pretty bad and def wayyy over priced for the small portion they give u,  a big plate is just a hoax to the small portion! and its not to gr8 to write home abput,
lol, reminds me of the woody allen joke

There's an old joke - um... two elderly women are at a Catskill mountain resort, and one of 'em says, "Boy, the food at this place is really terrible." The other one says, "Yeah, I know; and such small portions."
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 11, 2012, 02:57:58 PM
nope -1!   its pretty bad and def wayyy over priced for the small portion they give u,  a big plate is just a hoax to the small portion! and its not to gr8 to write home abput,
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: 972sg212 on November 11, 2012, 03:02:55 PM
nope -1!   its pretty bad and def wayyy over priced for the small portion they give u,  a big plate is just a hoax to the small portion! and its not to gr8 to write home abput,

Was there last night good service but the food was below average
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 11, 2012, 03:40:28 PM
Greg's,mamilla

Great place. Best Israeli breakfast I've had in Israel, and really good deserts to boot.
I keep on waiting for coupons, but haven't had luck in half a year now.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 04:10:16 PM
Dairy - Wafflebar on Paran.

-1

Hashgocha is Rav Rubin. It's part of a very popular chain, but the only one with a 'chareidi' hashgocha (for lack of a better description).

-1

See Dfus, Beit Ha-

The food has been pretty consistently good the few times I've been there

-1


Sorry for the massacre. :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 11, 2012, 04:39:08 PM
What are the hashgachos on The Speghettis and Greggs?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 04:58:45 PM
What are the hashgachos on The Speghettis and Greggs?

Rabbanut Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 11, 2012, 05:11:03 PM
Dairy - Wafflebar on Paran. Hashgocha is Rav Rubin. It's part of a very popular chain, but the only one with a 'chareidi' hashgocha (for lack of a better description). The food has been pretty consistently good the few times I've been there (except the baked potato) although the menu is not that extensive.

Both places have always been pretty busy, with a varied clientele of all stripes - 2 signs a place is good, especially here in our polarized society.
As always, double-check the hechsher anywhere you go here that it's an original with name address and date all correct.
+1
good food, and consistent.    good service as well, except for early morning before the owner gets in. 


in general though, it all depends on ure standards.  if you only eat the high level mehadrin hecsherim your choices are very limited.  if you'll eat rabanut mehadrin and ou that opens up a lot of options.   if you eat rabanut/bait yosef the choices are unlimited, i'm sure there all kinds of amazing places out there.  israel is known to have excellent middle eastern cuisine. 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 11, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
Israel is known to have excellent middle eastern cuisine.

Might have something to do with the fact that it is conveniently located in the Middle East. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 11, 2012, 05:32:27 PM
Guys be on the lookout for a new great sushie store opening soon in Centre in Jerusalem, Bar Ilan Yermiyahu area!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 11, 2012, 05:36:40 PM
Guys be on the lookout for a new great sushie store opening soon in Centre in Jerusalem, Bar Ilan Yermiyahu area!

More details please?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 11, 2012, 05:53:59 PM
Guys be on the lookout for a new great sushie store opening soon in Centre in Jerusalem, Bar Ilan Yermiyahu area!
I hope this place proves me wrong but never can Jerusalem and great sushi be written in the same sentence.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 11, 2012, 05:55:26 PM
I hope this place proves me wrong but never can Jerusalem and great sushi be written in the same sentence.
And that neighborhood is not particularly conducive to good eating establishments.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 11, 2012, 06:30:15 PM
Might have something to do with the fact that it is conveniently located in the Middle East. ;)
as are many countries, not all of them are known for excellent middle eastern cuisine ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 11, 2012, 06:32:53 PM
I hope this place proves me wrong but never can Jerusalem and great sushi be written in the same sentence.
And that neighborhood is not particularly conducive to good eating establishments.
+1
sushiya actually had really good sushi, with their clientele though it was only a matter of time until they dropped the hashgacha
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Armadillo on November 11, 2012, 06:47:13 PM
-1

-1

See Dfus, Beit Ha-

-1


Sorry for the massacre. :D
Al taam v'reiach...btw, if beit hadfus is rubin that's new. Last I checked it was Rabbanut Mehadrin
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: 972sg212 on November 11, 2012, 06:54:46 PM
I hope this place proves me wrong but never can Jerusalem and great sushi be written in the same sentence.

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: dealvr on November 12, 2012, 06:50:58 AM
Sushi Rechavya is great!
Not sure re hechsher though.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 12, 2012, 07:06:14 AM
Sushi Rechavya is great!
Not sure re hechsher though.
Rabbanut
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 12, 2012, 09:14:08 AM
And people ask why I haven't been back to Israel in 2.5 years :P
Sorry, not good enough excuse.  The pros waaaay outweigh the cons.  Almost sound like those people that when you try to explain them about credit cards/miles/points, the whole game etc., they get so confused and intimidated, they don't even wanna hear.

 True I can't argue, the Hashgocho situation is ridiculous etc., but when all is said and done, no matter your standard, I'd imagine there are still so many places to eat, it shouldn't even compare to yyz, gru, eze, etc ....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
Sorry, not good enough excuse.  The pros waaaay outweigh the cons.  Almost sound like those people that when you try to explain them about credit cards/miles/points, the whole game etc., they get so confused and intimidated, they don't even wanna hear.

 True I can't argue, the Hashgocho situation is ridiculous etc., but when all is said and done, no matter your standard, I'd imagine there are still so many places to eat, it shouldn't even compare to yyz, gru, eze, etc ....
I don't mean to sound callous but Israel can be a PITT.
I was so excited when I finally made it there in 2007 and got to spend a month traveling everywhere in Israel, but after being back a few times everything from pervasive imaginary rental car scratches, to the severe lack of point accepting hotels, to the lack of quality mehadrin restaurants (that those cities with a tiny fraction of the frum Jews in J'lem have world-class operation and J'lem doesn't is just sad), to the pervasive Israeli attitude you get everywhere, to the suicidal drivers, to the lack of parking, it all starts to wear down on my nerves and doesn't create a pleasant travel experience.

I'll be back but I'm just not in any particular rush anymore. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: JEWDA on November 12, 2012, 12:35:31 PM
I don't mean to sound callous but Israel can be a PITT.
I was so excited when I finally made it there in 2007 and got to spend a month traveling everywhere in Israel, but after being back a few times everything from pervasive imaginary rental car scratches, to the severe lack of point accepting hotels, to the lack of quality mehadrin restaurants (that those cities with a tiny fraction of the frum Jews in J'lem have world-class operation and J'lem doesn't is just sad), to the pervasive Israeli attitude you get everywhere, to the suicidal drivers, to the lack of parking, it all starts to wear down on my nerves and doesn't create a pleasant travel experience.

I'll be back but I'm just not in any particular rush anymore. Sad but true.
I guess you don't really have family there?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 12:36:08 PM
I guess you don't really have family there?
Only distant.  Obviously that would change things if I did.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: JEWDA on November 12, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
Only distant.  Obviously that would change things if I did.
That's my point. I learned there almost 5 years and i really hated all the things you said. The only reason I'm going there now to visit is because I have many relatives there who never met my wife, and because of the price glitch. It's really sad that I'm not looking forward so much to any hotel experience or restaurant or to even rent a normal car...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 12, 2012, 12:49:02 PM
That's my point. I learned there almost 5 years and i really hated all the things you said. The only reason I'm going there now to visit is because I have many relatives there who never met my wife, and because of the price glitch. It's really sad that I'm not looking forward so much to any hotel experience or restaurant or to even rent a normal car...
I actually find that it's more pleasant to live here than to visit here.
When visiting, there are vacation style expectations, and Israel doesn't match up.
But when living here, those expectations don't exist, and the other pros (whether religious or not) definitely shine.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 12, 2012, 12:53:52 PM
I actually find that it's more pleasant to live here than to visit here.
When visiting, there are vacation style expectations, and Israel doesn't match up.
But when living here, those expectations don't exist, and the other pros (whether religious or not) definitely shine.
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
I actually find that it's more pleasant to live here than to visit here.
When visiting, there are vacation style expectations, and Israel doesn't match up.
But when living here, those expectations don't exist, and the other pros (whether religious or not) definitely shine.
I would love living in Israel for a year, but I bet I would love the creature comforts of America even more when I returned.
#Galus
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 12, 2012, 01:02:54 PM
I would love living in Israel for a year, but I bet I would love the creature comforts of America even more when I returned.
#Galus
:)
If it weren't gilded, ppl wouldn't remain there. It's part of God making it a challenge, and hence, engaging our free will.

(On a related note, it's interesting to note that life began becoming good to the Jews in America, just as it was becoming much better for Jews in Israel. In the 30's life in both places was somewhat miserable for new refugees. Another example of us being given free will.)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 12, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
I don't mean to sound callous but Israel can be a PITT.
I was so excited when I finally made it there in 2007 and got to spend a month traveling everywhere in Israel, but after being back a few times everything from pervasive imaginary rental car scratches, to the severe lack of point accepting hotels, to the lack of quality mehadrin restaurants (that those cities with a tiny fraction of the frum Jews in J'lem have world-class operation and J'lem doesn't is just sad), to the pervasive Israeli attitude you get everywhere, to the suicidal drivers, to the lack of parking, it all starts to wear down on my nerves and doesn't create a pleasant travel experience.

I'll be back but I'm just not in any particular rush anymore. Sad but true.

Now you can imagine what we live with every day...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Red on November 12, 2012, 01:26:44 PM
I actually find that it's more pleasant to live here than to visit here.
When visiting, there are vacation style expectations, and Israel doesn't match up.
But when living here, those expectations don't exist, and the other pros (whether religious or not) definitely shine.
+1000
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jackofall on November 12, 2012, 01:41:27 PM
Is it possible to rent a car in Israel without paying for insurance out of pocket?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 12, 2012, 01:46:16 PM
see dan, what you complain about is what i dont mind about, when i was in america i counldnt wait to get back home with no car and walking every where, its all diff way of life, some ppl like it others cant stand it, i understand completely but when in america i lived in my car, litt (thru the storm lol) and with the cold i still like the walking in comparison, everything is right here. when you come its all about touring, and this summer i did that and yes it was a pain, but if your living here its a  whole diff game
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 12, 2012, 01:48:11 PM
Is it possible to rent a car in Israel without paying for insurance out of pocket?
Whose pocket would you like to pay it out of?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 01:48:30 PM
Like Reuven said, living and vacationing in Israel are very different experiences.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 12, 2012, 01:50:33 PM
Like Reuven said, living and vacationing in Israel are very different experiences.

ya, ur very right thats all :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 12, 2012, 02:05:16 PM
Whose pocket would you like to pay it out of?
LOL

Nice welcome
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 12, 2012, 06:50:19 PM
I actually find that it's more pleasant to live here than to visit here.
When visiting, there are vacation style expectations, and Israel doesn't match up.
But when living here, those expectations don't exist, and the other pros (whether religious or not) definitely shine.

+1

I would love living in Israel for a year, but I bet I would love the creature comforts of America even more when I returned.
#Galus

So why not give it a shot? Sounds like the best of both worlds - all the bennies of living here, and enhanced appreciation of CLE when you go back. What's not to like?

Plus if you're a savvy DDFer living here, LH pays for your full-time car rental. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 12, 2012, 06:54:03 PM
Whose pocket would you like to pay it out of?

ROFL!!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jackofall on November 12, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
    Whose pocket would you like to pay it out of?


ROFL!!!

What I meant was in the US when I rent a car I am covered by CC and my personal insurance. Is that the same case in Israel? which rental company?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 13, 2012, 03:01:51 AM

Plus if you're a savvy DDFer living here, LH pays for your full-time car rental. ;)

Care to explain?  ???
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 13, 2012, 05:21:32 AM
+1

So why not give it a shot? Sounds like the best of both worlds - all the bennies of living here, and enhanced appreciation of CLE when you go back. What's not to like?

Plus if you're a savvy DDFer living here, LH pays for your full-time car rental. ;)

ive heard about the LH deal..can someone help me a bit? pretty please...:)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 13, 2012, 06:46:19 AM
Care to explain?  ???
ive heard about the LH deal..can someone help me a bit? pretty please...:)
take a look at this thread   http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2861.msg28664#msg28664

basically after the 11th rental you're walking away with 3,000 points each 2 day rental.  if you value lh at about 1.7/1.8 a point, then you're getting $54 back on each 2 day rental.  that should pretty much cover the cost of a two day rental on a small car.     

there are a couple things that need to be worked out though.    if you book it using the awd for the promo it's a higher rate.  supposedly though it's easy to book on a diff awd and then change it when you get into the store.  not sure if travel agent rate would work the same.     

also, i don't think it would be worth it for most people if you need to spend an hour every 2 days returning the car and getting a new one, it's a major pita.   if you could work out a way with them to just stop by and fill out new papers or something, without actually returning the car it makes it much more feasible.      and of course you need to change the awd on each 2 day rental.

the other thing is the hold on your cc.  it would be very annoying if they put a new $1k hold on your cc for each rental... it usually takes about 10 days to come off.  but that's not such a big deal. 

i believe if you maxed it out from here until the end of the year (promo is through dec 31), you could do about 21 rentals, which is about 59k points (first 11 rentals earn less).      not the best, but still a great deal.     also they've been renewing this every year for the last few years so you could always just wait for january and start then with a full year to do it.

gl
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 13, 2012, 08:26:27 AM
take a look at this thread   http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2861.msg28664#msg28664

basically after the 11th rental you're walking away with 3,000 points each 2 day rental.  if you value lh at about 1.7/1.8 a point, then you're getting $54 back on each 2 day rental.  that should pretty much cover the cost of a two day rental on a small car.     

there are a couple things that need to be worked out though.    if you book it using the awd for the promo it's a higher rate.  supposedly though it's easy to book on a diff awd and then change it when you get into the store.  not sure if travel agent rate would work the same.     

also, i don't think it would be worth it for most people if you need to spend an hour every 2 days returning the car and getting a new one, it's a major pita.   if you could work out a way with them to just stop by and fill out new papers or something, without actually returning the car it makes it much more feasible.      and of course you need to change the awd on each 2 day rental.

the other thing is the hold on your cc.  it would be very annoying if they put a new $1k hold on your cc for each rental... it usually takes about 10 days to come off.  but that's not such a big deal. 

i believe if you maxed it out from here until the end of the year (promo is through dec 31), you could do about 21 rentals, which is about 59k points (first 11 rentals earn less).      not the best, but still a great deal.     also they've been renewing this every year for the last few years so you could always just wait for january and start then with a full year to do it.

gl

That's the one.

I have a lot to say about this, as I've been doing this for almost two years, and have learned a lot of stuff the hard way. But I don't really have time now... Somebody remind me to post later, okay? :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 13, 2012, 09:06:03 AM
i used to do it, a royal pita
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 13, 2012, 11:42:09 AM
thanks everyone for the details!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 13, 2012, 11:49:32 AM
That's the one.

I have a lot to say about this, as I've been doing this for almost two years, and have learned a lot of stuff the hard way. But I don't really have time now... Somebody remind me to post later, okay? :D

When's later? Now? Or later? :o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: davhoro on November 13, 2012, 06:35:28 PM
Im traveling to E'Y next week....this coming monday arriving Tuesday and would like to pick up a car at the airport......Never rented in E'Y before but i'll be doing lots of traveling and dont wanna pay for taxis...Who should i reserve an automatic car with ...who's the cheapest and most reliable....also i assume that in EY i gotta pay the insurance...or can i rely on my Chase Saphire card to cover for me?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 13, 2012, 06:37:44 PM
Carle Noach hacker there all good. And if its WMC (delete ur other post with the same q) gets cinfusing
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 13, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
Im traveling to E'Y next week....this coming monday arriving Tuesday and would like to pick up a car at the airport......Never rented in E'Y before but i'll be doing lots of traveling and dont wanna pay for taxis...Who should i reserve an automatic car with ...who's the cheapest and most reliable....also i assume that in EY i gotta pay the insurance...or can i rely on my Chase Saphire card to cover for me?
As this thread is called things to do, places to eat...and not where and how do I rent cars...may not be the best place to post...there is a thread that answers all your questions and where you can ask all your questions regarding car rentals in Israel

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1211.0
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 14, 2012, 01:22:35 PM
That's the one.

I have a lot to say about this, as I've been doing this for almost two years, and have learned a lot of stuff the hard way. But I don't really have time now... Somebody remind me to post later, okay? :D
so, ...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 01:38:55 PM
so, ...

Hang in there. I have a draft in my iPad's "Notes" app. Hopefully done soon. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 14, 2012, 01:40:39 PM
Hang in there. I have a draft in my iPad's "Notes" app. Hopefully done soon. :)
It's that long??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
It's that long??

Greatness doesn't come in small spurts. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 03:19:36 PM
2. Sheyan (dont miss the battered mushroom appetizer)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/15/unejeme9.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 14, 2012, 04:01:49 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/15/unejeme9.jpg)
Are they really a cant miss?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 14, 2012, 04:04:52 PM
Potatoes at Sheyan are one of the best foods in the world.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: WhyAich on November 14, 2012, 04:07:24 PM
Potatoes at Sheyan are one of the best foods in the world.
location?
(hechsher?)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 14, 2012, 04:08:39 PM
Potatoes at Sheyan are one of the best foods in the world.

So you just order potatoes and garlic chicken when you go?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 14, 2012, 04:12:26 PM
So you just order potatoes and garlic chicken when you go?
And Chocolate Fondant

But ever since Modern came around I havent been there much


Not ordering potatoes there should be a crime
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
Are they really a cant miss?

Yes.

location?
(hechsher?)

Windmill, Rechavia.

(Badatz Agudah.)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 14, 2012, 04:15:52 PM
And Chocolate Fondant

But ever since Modern came around I havent been there much


Not ordering potatoes there should be a crime

If you'd have to order another app/side and main...what would it be?

Thinking of giving it another chance wanna know the best options...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 14, 2012, 04:17:55 PM
But ever since Modern came around I havent been there much

Hows Moderns "noise level" on a Tuesday/Thursday night?  More like Rimon or Keyara?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 14, 2012, 05:42:55 PM
OK, Sheyan menu:

1) Potatoes
2) Fried Mushrooms
3) Garlic Chicken
4) Chocolate fondant

Missing anything?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 14, 2012, 05:43:38 PM
How do u not got for the classic pineapple chicken
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 14, 2012, 05:47:49 PM
How do u not got for the classic pineapple chicken

I remember getting that a while ago...I think it was pretty good IIRC
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 14, 2012, 05:49:46 PM
I remember getting that a while ago...I think it was pretty good IIRC
It's def very very solid.  The annoying thing is u need rice and that u have to pay sep for
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 14, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
How do u not got for the classic pineapple chicken
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 14, 2012, 05:51:16 PM
How do u not got for the classic pineapple chicken

Just going on people's recommendations...

I'm open to change :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
OK, Sheyan menu:

1) Potatoes
1.1) Corn Chowder
2) Fried Mushrooms and/or Dim Sum
3) Garlic Chicken or Pineapple Chicken
4) Chocolate fondant or Twister
5) Cocktail: China Wall

FTFY. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 14, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
Just going on people's recommendations...

I'm open to change :P

Ask Obama about that.   :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 14, 2012, 06:00:39 PM
FTFY. :)

Fantastico. Thanks.

Ask Obama about that.   :-)

Already know the answer :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 14, 2012, 06:01:25 PM
FTFY. :)

Now I'll give it another chance
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 14, 2012, 06:03:52 PM
if they have cambodian rice at sheyan its definitely a must get,

what potatoes is PG talking about?

anyways, was at keyara tonight and was very impressed. first good meal there in a very long time.

about the cocktail the previous poster wrote, the china wall, i gotta add, its a great drink....for the wife
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 14, 2012, 07:06:39 PM
OK, Sheyan menu:

1) Potatoes
2) Fried Mushrooms
3) Garlic Chicken
4) Chocolate fondant

Missing anything?
potatoes are hit or miss, when they're on, they're amazing
fried mushrooms are delicious

they used to have an amazing lemon mousse dessert, not sure if they still do

you should try keyara as well though, they've got some delicious appetizers

chicken liver pate, with fried onions and orange sauce   
roast beef with wassabi mayonnaise     

in terms of the mains, i don't think anything on the regular menu particularly stands out, but they usually have a nice special.  either some sort of lamb chops or duck, which is very good.        i've had mixed experiences there in terms of service, but they have a new manager there, and I was just there last night and the service was outstanding.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 14, 2012, 07:14:49 PM
Thanks.

I know there seems to be disagreement here, but if one had to choose between keyara and sheyan?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: JEWDA on November 14, 2012, 07:16:27 PM
Thanks.

I know there seems to be disagreement here, but if one had to choose between keyara and sheyan?
when I was in Israel I was not impressed with keyara
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 14, 2012, 07:17:20 PM
Thanks.

I know there seems to be disagreement here, but if one had to choose between keyara and sheyan?
the sheyan appetizers are nice, but at the end of the day they're vegetables.     keyaras appetizers are just as good, and they're meat.   i'd say it's a no brainer
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 14, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
the sheyan appetizers are nice, but at the end of the day they're vegetables.     keyaras appetizers are just as good, and they're meat.   i'd say it's a no brainer
to be honest, that seems like an odd way to base a decision
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
if they have cambodian rice at sheyan its definitely a must get,

Negative. It has been cancelled, replaced with some awful dish called Indian Rice.


about the cocktail the previous poster wrote, the china wall, i gotta add, its a great drink....for the wife

Gee, thanks.   ::)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 14, 2012, 07:21:44 PM
to be honest, that seems like an odd way to base a decision
meat vs vegetables?   i guess if you're a vegetarian it might be odd, otherwise...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 14, 2012, 07:22:49 PM
anyways, was at keyara tonight and was very impressed. first good meal there in a very long time.
What did you get?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 07:24:04 PM
to be honest, that seems like an odd way to base a decision

+1

I would choose restaurants based on how good the mains are, not the appetizers, and definitely not on whether or not the appetizers are meat or not.

And on that note, Keyara has never yet gotten my steak right, which is why I stick with Sheyan.

BTW, speaking of Keyara, their salad with the green apples is amazing (provided that they get it right, of course).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 14, 2012, 07:30:21 PM
+1

I would choose restaurants based on how good the mains are, not the appetizers, and definitely not on whether or not the appetizers are meat or not.

And on that note, Keyara has never yet gotten my steak right, which is why I stick with Sheyan.

BTW, speaking of Keyara, their salad with the green apples is amazing (provided that they get it right, of course).
the mains in both are ok.  sheyan has a bigger menu, but most of the dishes taste similar... hence, my falling back to judge based on the appetizers which they both have some really good ones.       
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 14, 2012, 07:33:38 PM
What did you get?
i was very impressed with the tongue special as a main. the roastbeef appetizer was a waste of time imo.

as far as which one to pick, its a matter of personal choice. are you in the mood for asian or not?

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 14, 2012, 07:49:12 PM
Honestly, I don't care if it's Asian or not, I was just looking for the better restaurant between the two.

All in all, it seems that sheyan gets the nod, but I guess I'll make a game time decision.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 07:52:07 PM
Honestly, I don't care if it's Asian or not, I was just looking for the better restaurant between the two.

All in all, it seems that sheyan gets the nod, but I guess I'll make a game time decision.

Bring coupons for both. ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 14, 2012, 07:54:06 PM
Or, just stop by your place? :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 07:55:22 PM
Or, just stop by your place? :P

By all means. I'll throw in a pack of Sour Sticks too, while we're at it. 8)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2012, 07:58:24 PM
By all means. I'll throw in a pack of Sour Sticks too, while we're at it. 8)
How about a milk munch?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 08:24:26 PM
How about a milk munch?

Hang on, lemme check if we have...

ETA: Yup, we got it. You're welcome to stop by too, Dan. ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 14, 2012, 08:33:22 PM
That's the one.

I have a lot to say about this, as I've been doing this for almost two years, and have learned a lot of stuff the hard way. But I don't really have time now... Somebody remind me to post later, okay? :D

Okay, I finally finished my epic post about the Avis-Lufthansa deal. But I'm afraid I'll kill the restaurant discussion... Should I go for it anyway? :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 14, 2012, 09:09:05 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/15/unejeme9.jpg)
I've eaten those, I call them "heartburn mushrooms" ;D
location?
(hechsher?)
On top of "Chabad of Rechavia", if that helps.
Thanks.

I know there seems to be disagreement here, but if one had to choose between keyara and sheyan?
Having eaten a full course meal in Sheyan, I bl"n wouldn't choose to eat there again, but that's only iMho.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: JEWDA on November 14, 2012, 09:14:08 PM
Okay, I finally finished my epic post about the Avis-Lufthansa deal. But I'm afraid I'll kill the restaurant discussion... Should I go for it anyway? :P
Start a new thread.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2012, 12:03:35 AM
Having eaten a full course meal in Sheyan, I bl"n wouldn't choose to eat there again, but that's only iMho.
I wasn't amazed by it, I think it's the lack of quality mehadrin dining that causes this.  Though I was just there once and it's already been many years.
I definitely preferred my $5 lunch special sesame chicken with fried rice delivered to EWR from New Kosher Special :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 15, 2012, 02:24:54 AM
I wasn't amazed by it, I think it's the lack of quality mehadrin dining that causes this.  Though I was just there once and it's already been many years.
I definitely preferred my $5 lunch special sesame chicken with fried rice delivered to EWR from New Kosher Special :D

Most places in the US re better than shayan but this is the closest we get.  Feel for us.  I love Chinese so next time someone comes pls bring! General tso xtra hot n spicy - ill pay big bucks - or we can barter too  :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2012, 02:26:25 AM
Most places in the US re better than shayan but this is the closest we get.  Feel for us.  I love Chinese so next time someone comes pls bring! General tso xtra hot n spicy - ill pay big bucks - or we can barter too  :P
Fair enough.  From reading this thread casually you'd think Sheyan was something to write home about.  Which it might be, but not so much the day I went.
Next person flying UA should have NKS make a free delivery to EWR and make a DO from it in J'lem :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 15, 2012, 02:28:56 AM
Fair enough.  From reading this thread casually you'd think Sheyan was something to write home about.  Which it might be, but not so much the day I went.
NNNNOOOOO!!!  Lol.  It's far from even decent I'd say.  Go to anywhere in the states (i only know east coast) but wak tov or that place on j or glat wak (monsey) or even Eden wak.   All take the cake on a bad day compared to this.  Lol. Plus u gotta love lunch specials in the US!

But it's the only place we've got.  U know its like u talking about the browns.  We'd think there even better than the jets. Lol
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 15, 2012, 02:29:58 AM
Hows Moderns "noise level" on a Tuesday/Thursday night?  More like Rimon or Keyara?
Better than both

I find Keyara service overbearing.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 15, 2012, 02:32:57 AM

what potatoes is PG talking about?

#gottabekidding
#DDFDO
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 15, 2012, 02:33:20 AM
#gottabekidding
#DDFDO

When
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 15, 2012, 02:34:32 AM
but if one had to choose between keyara and sheyan?
Keyara is vastly superior, however Sheyan is more casual. Sometimes I just don't have patience for Kayara.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 02:35:04 AM
NNNNOOOOO!!!  Lol.  It's far from even decent I'd say.  Go to anywhere in the states (i only know east coast) but wak tov or that place on j or glat wak (monsey) or even Eden wak.   All take the cake on a bad day compared to this.  Lol. Plus u gotta love lunch specials in the US!

But it's the only place we've got.  U know its like u talking about the browns.  We'd think there even better than the jets. Lol

I, personally, would love to know what the heck a "wak" is. Some kind of pan used by oriental geese, no doubt. ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 02:35:41 AM
#gottabekidding
#DDFDO

When

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 15, 2012, 02:43:02 AM
Prob going to take heat for this but another vote of confidence in Waffle Bar...granted, prices should be slashed 10% across the board.

For the naysayers, try the mozzarella crepe and the banana split crepe and report back. Also, here is a trick, ask the waiter for the specials not on the menu. Try them.

They had grilled salmon, roasted eggplant focaccia and french onion soup...the place seems to be full every time i'm there so they are doing something right... 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 15, 2012, 03:03:31 AM
#gottabekidding
nope, ive never heard of it

in general, potatoes dont usually feature prominently in asian style restaurants
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 15, 2012, 03:04:30 AM
nope, ive never heard of it

in general, potatoes dont usually feature prominently in asian style restaurants
Theyre really good.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 15, 2012, 03:06:49 AM
Theyre really good.
i guess ill have to try it

we usually try to do tempura shrooms, cambodian rice and entrecote skewers
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 15, 2012, 03:12:18 AM
i guess ill have to try it

we usually try to do tempura shrooms, cambodian rice and entrecote skewers
Ah finally remembered about 2 years ago I used to get those skewers a few times a week. Great stuff, but I became nauseous quickly. Thankfully the garlic chicken and Modern came around.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 15, 2012, 03:36:15 AM
#DDFDO
You gana be in jlem Chanukah time?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 15, 2012, 03:36:57 AM
You gana be in jlem Chanukah time?
Possibly
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 04:35:42 AM
we usually try to do tempura shrooms, cambodian rice and entrecote skewers

Negative. It has been cancelled, replaced with some awful dish called Indian Rice.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 15, 2012, 04:40:52 AM
Theyre really good.

There actually great! Forgot about them!
Also Papagios has great potatoes with chili matok :-)
Possibly

So DO :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 04:48:41 AM
Lemme FTFY:
Also Papagios has great sweet potatoes with chili matok :-)

Best. Sweet. Potatoes. EVER!!!

We usually order the bread-and-salads appetizer with our conjunto, but since we don't like most of the salads anyway, we ask for triples of the sweet potatoes instead. :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 15, 2012, 05:01:30 AM
Lemme FTFY:
Best. Sweet. Potatoes. EVER!!!

We usually order the bread-and-salads appetizer with our conjunto, but since we don't like most of the salads anyway, we ask for triples of the sweet potatoes instead. :D
Did you ever get the brazillion table?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 15, 2012, 05:15:36 AM
Best potatoes are home fries in café Del Mar in Netanya.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 06:46:41 AM
Did you ever get the brazillion table?

Brazillion? What is that? It comes after million, billion, and trillion? :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 15, 2012, 07:09:35 AM
Did you ever get the brazillion table?

What's going to Papagios and not getting it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 15, 2012, 07:22:15 AM
What's going to Papagios and not getting it?

Ask Uncle Moishy...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 15, 2012, 03:44:41 PM
I wasn't amazed by it, I think it's the lack of quality mehadrin dining that causes this.  Though I was just there once and it's already been many years.
I definitely preferred my $5 lunch special sesame chicken with fried rice delivered to EWR from New Kosher Special :D
IMHO, the holy land ain't the place for materialistic pursuits, I don't know of anyone who moved to E"Y for a better quality if life.  I don't plan on ever finding there the best steak or fillet mignon, it's the spirituality and holiness that's on the menu.

But BTW, FWIW there's a phenomenal eatery in the Carmel winery in Zichron Yaakov, it's called Bistro Carmel.  The food is A1, the ambiance is gorgeous, and the wine is ahhh, superb.
NNNNOOOOO!!!  Lol.  It's far from even decent I'd say. Lol. Plus u gotta love lunch specials in the US!
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 15, 2012, 04:00:58 PM
IMHO, the holy land ain't the place for materialistic pursuits, I don't know of anyone who moved to E"Y for a better quality if life.  I don't plan on ever finding there the best steak or fillet mignon, it's the spirituality and holiness that's on the menu.

But BTW, FWIW there's a phenomenal eatery in the Carmel winery in Zichron Yaakov, it's called Bistro Carmel.  The food is A1, the ambiance is gorgeous, and the wine is ahhh, superb.+1
Coming from Cleveland, it's hard to complain about the quality of the food in EY. The food there was nothing to write home about.

The problem is all you spoiled NY'ers  :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 15, 2012, 05:44:56 PM
IMHO, the holy land ain't the place for materialistic pursuits, I don't know of anyone who moved to E"Y for a better quality if life.  I don't plan on ever finding there the best steak or fillet mignon, it's the spirituality and holiness that's on the menu.
+1
But BTW, FWIW there's a phenomenal eatery in the Carmel winery in Zichron Yaakov, it's called Bistro Carmel.  The food is A1, the ambiance is gorgeous, and the wine is ahhh, superb.+1
sounds really interesting, never heard of this.   what's the hashgocha?         
also A1 made me think steak, made me think tierra sur...   alas, it's dairy
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 15, 2012, 06:29:28 PM
+1sounds really interesting, never heard of this.   what's the hashgocha?         
also A1 made me think steak, made me think tierra sur...   alas, it's dairy
Indeed, dairy it is, however they serve a delectable selection of exquisite cheeses, you actually taste what cheese is supposed to taste like. 
Don't spread the word, I wouldn't want to spoil one of Israel's best kept secrets ;)

IIRC, it's under the widely respected Rabbanut Mehadrin of Zichron Yaakov.  FWIH, it's accepted by all.

BTW, it's called Bistro De Carmel, and http://bistrodecarmel.rest-e.co.il/ (http://bistrodecarmel.rest-e.co.il/) is their website.

 "About us

Bistro de Carmel is set in a venerable stone building,constructed by Baron Edmond de Rothschild 120 years ago, in the heart of the Zichron Ya’akov winery. With its recently-revealed stone walls, high ceilings, spacious rooms, and tall windows opening onto the winery - the Bistro de Carmel offers diners a discriminating setting for fine dining."
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 15, 2012, 06:42:22 PM
Indeed, dairy it is, however they serve a delectable selection of exquisite cheeses, you actually taste what cheese is supposed to taste like. 
Don't spread the word, I wouldn't want to spoil one of Israel's best kept secrets ;)

IIRC, it's under the widely respected Rabbanut Mehadrin of Zichron Yaakov.  FWIH, it's accepted by all.
i'll definitely be checking that out.     how long a drive is that from jlem?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 06:54:02 PM
What's going to Papagios and not getting it?
They've redone their menu more than twice since you we're here. We never get the all-you-can-eat option. Instead, we get a conjunto - a platter of steak, London broil, spring chicken, and mini-burgers. IOHO, it's very good. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 06:54:25 PM
Ask Uncle Moishy...

LOL!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 07:13:48 PM
Food stops on my upcoming trip.

Felafel:
Felafel Siya (on bar ilan)
Shalom Felafel (on Betzalel)
Miros (near the Mir)
Felafel Hateimani (on Yoel, Bukharian Shuk) excellent melawach falafel

Pizza:
Big Apple

Dairy:
Agass Vtapuach (Kikar Safra) groupon
Cafe Rimon
Sam Bagels (for my wife) (Ben Yehuda)

Meat:
Papigios (Talpiot) probably the Brazilian table


Schwarma:
Halo Teiman ( Paz station Kneisa Lair)
Maoz (King George across from Lev Yerushalayim)

Drinks, Dessert, and Pastries:
Mitz Pri for iced coffee (Geulah)
Aldo for ice cream (Yaffo)
Katzefet (froyo)for ice cream (Ben Yehuda)
Marzipan chocolate rugalech (Old City and Shuk)

These are all places I have been to many times. Is there anything here that's not around anymore, no longer Kosher, or no good anymore?

Where do I need to add to my list if options?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 15, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
i'll definitely be checking that out.     how long a drive is that from jlem?
IIRC, an hour and half.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 15, 2012, 07:18:05 PM
Is there anything here that's not around anymore, no longer Kosher, or no good anymore?
Makpid on Mehadrin?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 07:21:10 PM
Food stops on my upcoming trip.

Felafel:
Felafel Siya (on bar ilan)
Shalom Felafel (on Betzalel)
Miros (near the Mir)
Felafel Hateimani (on Yoel, Bukharian Shuk) excellent melawach falafel
Pizza/Felafel Ben Yaakov (Shmuel Hanavi)

Pizza:
Big Apple
Agvania

Dairy:
Agass Vtapuach (Kikar Safra) groupon
Cafe Rimon
Sam Bagels (for my wife) (Ben Yehuda)
Cafe Greg (Mamilla)
Green's (Rechavia)


Meat:
Papigios (Talpiot) probably the Brazilian table
Sheyan/Keyara (Rechavia)
Modern (Israel Museum)



Schwarma:
Halo Teiman ( Paz station Kneisa Lair)
Maoz (King George across from Lev Yerushalayim)

Drinks, Dessert, and Pastries:
Mitz Pri for iced coffee (Geulah) BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HAS NEVER HAD A HECHSHER
Aldo for ice cream (Yaffo)
Katzefet (froyo)for ice cream (Ben Yehuda) (Or Sanhedria, Rav Shefa, or Har Nof)
Marzipan chocolate rugalech (Old City and Shuk)

These are all places I have been to many times. Is there anything here that's not around anymore, no longer Kosher, or no good anymore?

Where do I need to add to my list if options?

FTFY. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 15, 2012, 07:39:27 PM
you can skip all the falafel places and just go to falafel uzi on yeshayahu  :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 08:18:52 PM
Makpid on Mehadrin?

For meat for sure, for milk depends which Hashgacha. For drinks ice cream not really.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 08:20:40 PM
FTFY. :)
For meat for sure, for milk depends which Hashgacha. For drinks ice cream not really.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
you can skip all the falafel places and just go to falafel uzi on yeshayahu  :)

And miss out on eating the best falafel? No thank you!  :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 15, 2012, 08:23:09 PM


I don't get what you're trying to tell me...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 15, 2012, 08:24:30 PM
For meat for sure, for milk depends which Hashgacha. For drinks ice cream not really.
The place on King George was Mehadrin?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 15, 2012, 08:38:36 PM
And miss out on eating the best falafel? No thank you!  :P
clearly, youve been out of the loop for a while...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 08:46:53 PM
I don't get what you're trying to tell me...

The Mitz Pri not being kosher thing
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 15, 2012, 08:48:56 PM
The Mitz Pri not being kosher thing
it never had a hashgach, simple as that
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 08:51:36 PM
The place on King George was Mehadrin?

If you are referring to Maoz on King George, It's under Machzeike Hadas (Belz) see here JKN (http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2009/09/maoz-shwarma-sushiya-eating-out-yeshivot-seminaries/)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 08:52:40 PM
it never had a hashgach, simple as that

Nor does Starbucks, dunkin donuts, or any other coffee place. For a cup of coffee I believe it's ok.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 08:56:34 PM
clearly, youve been out of the loop for a while...

I'm a big falafel guy, I had Uzi's and wasn't impressed.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=19159.0
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 15, 2012, 09:05:15 PM
Nor does Starbucks, dunkin donuts, or any other coffee place. For a cup of coffee I believe it's ok.
why would you want to give business to such a guy? hes known as one who intentionally misleads customers about whether he has a hasgacha (such as on fruits which absolutely needs one) and has physically assaulted someone who called him out on it
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 15, 2012, 09:08:33 PM
why would you want to give business to such a guy? hes known as one who intentionally misleads customers about whether he has a hasgacha (such as on fruits which absolutely needs one) and has physically assaulted someone who called him out on it

I'm not aware of these stories. I know there was no Hashgacha, and never got the fruit drinks. He has the best iced coffee I have ever had simple as that.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: JEWDA on November 16, 2012, 12:07:54 AM
I had Uzi's and wasn't impressed.


+100
They're so cheap on everything.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 16, 2012, 12:51:06 AM
Nor does Starbucks, dunkin donuts, or any other coffee place. For a cup of coffee I believe it's ok.

you serious?! the reason why u can shop in stabicks and dunkin is bec there are regulations and ur not worried about the,. ie using only cows milk, here he can be using urla, maaser, and even cmale milk ull have no idea, bec no one to stop him!  this is why lubabitch (correct me if im wrong) hates chalov companies(r' moshes heter) bec ppl will come to think it applies worldwide where as it only applies in the US
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 16, 2012, 01:37:30 AM
FTFY. :)
Is that Agvania I see on your list? ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 16, 2012, 02:41:56 AM
why would you want to give business to such a guy? hes known as one who intentionally misleads customers about whether he has a hasgacha (such as on fruits which absolutely needs one) and has physically assaulted someone who called him out on it

+1

you serious?! the reason why u can shop in stabicks and dunkin is bec there are regulations and ur not worried about the,. ie using only cows milk, here he can be using urla, maaser, and even cmale milk ull have no idea, bec no one to stop him!  this is why lubabitch (correct me if im wrong) hates chalov companies(r' moshes heter) bec ppl will come to think it applies worldwide where as it only applies in the US

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 16, 2012, 02:42:24 AM
Is that Agvania I see on your list? ;)

I believe we went through this already... ::)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 16, 2012, 02:48:10 AM
I believe we went through this already... ::)
I don't recall that...did you like?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 16, 2012, 03:02:40 AM
I don't recall that...did you like?

Yeah, we had some in Telly. Remember?

BTW, heads up for anyone who does, indeed, go to Agvania: what they consider a "meshulash" (the term that normally refers to a slice of Pizza) is actually a quarter of a pie, not an eighth. So if you're accustomed to eating two slices of pizza, don't order 2 from Agvania right away, as you will end up with half a pie. :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 16, 2012, 04:09:36 AM
Yeah, we had some in Telly. Remember?

BTW, heads up for anyone who does, indeed, go to Agvania: what they consider a "meshulash" (the term that normally refers to a slice of Pizza) is actually a quarter of a pie, not an eighth. So if you're accustomed to eating two slices of pizza, don't order 2 from Agvania right away, as you will end up with half a pie. :D
+1  on the fact that they consider a meshulash a quarter of a pie

-1 on not ordering two...being that the slices are so thin...a person who normally eats two slices will not get full if they just order their quarter pie
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 16, 2012, 04:49:07 AM
-1 on not ordering two...being that the slices are so thin...a person who normally eats two slices will not get full if they just order their quarter pie

-1

 I would say that it's more like one-and-a-half slices. And for quite a few people (despite the fact that they would not admit it), two slices is bordering on achilah gassa as it is, so two Agvania slices (equivqlent to at least 3 regular slices) is pushing it. I would recommend trying one of their slices first, and seeing if you want another one afterwards, rather than ordering two to begin with.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 16, 2012, 06:29:13 AM
Rimon Mamilla is regular Rabbinute, right?

I usually have the same problem  :)
Btw Luciano has now FOR 69shekel
What's Luciano's hashgacha?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 16, 2012, 06:32:33 AM
Rimon Mamilla is regular Rabbinute, right?

-1

Rabbanut Mehadrin, IIRC.

What's Luciano's hashgacha?

Ditto.


Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 16, 2012, 10:40:29 AM
Does anyone have details on the Rimon breakfast buffet?

Is it only on Friday? Price? Time begins, ends? What do they put out?

I know its a REPOST but the other one was in the wrong thread, so no need for JEWDA to have elevated blood pressure from this one.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 16, 2012, 11:19:54 AM
Art Meat in Ramat Gan. Anyone ever been? Whats the Hasgacha situation? From the website (http://www.artmeat.co.il/#about) it seems to be under Rabanut Ramat Gan with Rabbi Machpud (Batadz Yoreh Deyah)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 17, 2012, 01:23:46 PM
Does anyone have details on the Rimon breakfast buffet?

Is it only on Friday? Price? Time begins, ends? What do they put out?

I know its a REPOST but the other one was in the wrong thread, so no need for JEWDA to have elevated blood pressure from this one.

Friday only, 49 shekel (not including drinks). Entrance op en till about 11:30-12:00, at 12ish they stop bringing in new food.
They serve breads, cheeses, salads, fresh omelets, shakshuka. At the end they bring in pizza's,
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on November 17, 2012, 01:52:16 PM
Art Meat in Ramat Gan. Anyone ever been? Whats the Hasgacha situation? From the website (http://www.artmeat.co.il/#about) it seems to be under Rabanut Ramat Gan with Rabbi Machpud (Batadz Yoreh Deyah)
Been there in the past and wasn't too impressed with the food to put it mildly...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 17, 2012, 05:21:21 PM
Art Meat in Ramat Gan. Anyone ever been? Whats the Hasgacha situation? From the website (http://www.artmeat.co.il/#about) it seems to be under Rabanut Ramat Gan with Rabbi Machpud (Batadz Yoreh Deyah)
deceptive advertising.  it says the restaurant is rabbanut, the meat is machpud.   ie, you're eating under rabbanut supervision
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 17, 2012, 05:23:41 PM
-1

 I would say that it's more like one-and-a-half slices. And for quite a few people (despite the fact that they would not admit it), two slices is bordering on achilah gassa as it is, so two Agvania slices (equivqlent to at least 3 regular slices) is pushing it. I would recommend trying one of their slices first, and seeing if you want another one afterwards, rather than ordering two to begin with.
Disagree.
Without french fries and soda, I need 3 slices usually...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 17, 2012, 07:25:15 PM
Disagree.
Without french fries and soda, I need 3 slices usually...

 I didn't say "everyone", did I? ;)

-1

 And for quite a few people (despite the fact that they would not admit it), two slices is bordering on achilah gassa as it is
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 17, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
groupon for osaka sushi

http://www.groupon.co.il/deals/jerusalem-iw/osakah-c02643918/13167553?nlp=&CID=IL_CRM_1_0_0_323&a=1955
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on November 18, 2012, 07:48:47 AM
Food stops on my upcoming trip.

Felafel:
Felafel Siya (on bar ilan)
Shalom Felafel (on Betzalel)
Miros (near the Mir)
Felafel Hateimani (on Yoel, Bukharian Shuk) excellent melawach falafel

Pizza:
Big Apple

Dairy:
Agass Vtapuach (Kikar Safra) groupon
Cafe Rimon
Sam Bagels (for my wife) (Ben Yehuda)

Meat:
Papigios (Talpiot) probably the Brazilian table


Schwarma:
Halo Teiman ( Paz station Kneisa Lair)
Maoz (King George across from Lev Yerushalayim)

Drinks, Dessert, and Pastries:
Mitz Pri for iced coffee (Geulah)
Aldo for ice cream (Yaffo)
Katzefet (froyo)for ice cream (Ben Yehuda)
Marzipan chocolate rugalech (Old City and Shuk)

These are all places I have been to many times. Is there anything here that's not around anymore, no longer Kosher, or no good anymore?

Where do I need to add to my list if options?
you forgot entrocate its on golda meir by har hatzofim (rubin) great food and nice ambiance
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 18, 2012, 07:59:01 AM
you forgot entrocate its on golda meir by har hatzofim (rubin) great food and nice ambiance

You forgot to mention Israeli class/service.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 18, 2012, 11:20:32 AM
You forgot to mention Israeli class/service.

lol...+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 18, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
har chotzvim not hatzofim
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: macher on November 18, 2012, 01:12:27 PM
which hotels by the dead sea/ ein geddy has separate spas all day and mehadrin food ?????

thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 18, 2012, 01:45:31 PM
which hotels by the dead sea/ ein geddy has separate spas all day and mehadrin food ?????

thanks
none
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 18, 2012, 02:45:37 PM
the international beach used to - might still b around - have seperate spas, nothing fancy but something..IIRC
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 18, 2012, 03:57:43 PM
Thankfully the garlic chicken and Modern came around.

The garlic chicken your referring to are tempura?  In a basket like the potatoes?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 18, 2012, 06:38:48 PM
Paran Waffle Bar update: service still stinks.

As in, the waiter and waitress who helped us were nice and polite, and it didn't take a half-hour for a milkshake like last time, but they consistently "forgot" stuff. For example, I asked for tomato sauce on the side FOUR SEPARATE TIMES, and didn't get it at all in the end - not even when they packed our leftovers to go. (I finally just gave up on it.)

Food wasn't too bad, though my ravioli was a bit undercooked. Hot chocolate left much to be desired, but my wife's cappuccino was okay.

And the owner sent us free dessert, so that was nice. :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 19, 2012, 05:41:16 AM
Paran Waffle Bar update: service still stinks.

As in, the waiter and waitress who helped us were nice and polite, and it didn't take a half-hour for a milkshake like last time, but they consistently "forgot" stuff. For example, I asked for tomato sauce on the side FOUR SEPARATE TIMES, and didn't get it at all in the end - not even when they packed our leftovers to go. (I finally just gave up on it.)

Food wasn't too bad, though my ravioli was a bit undercooked. Hot chocolate left much to be desired, but my wife's cappuccino was okay.

And the owner sent us free dessert, so that was nice. :D

do you feel the service is worse than other israeli places?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 06:31:51 AM
do you feel the service is worse than other israeli places?

I don't like having to ask for something three or four times. That hasn't been my experience in many other places.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 19, 2012, 07:22:28 AM
got it...just curious...do you sit indoors or outside?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on November 19, 2012, 07:37:11 AM
Paran Waffle Bar update: service still stinks.

As in, the waiter and waitress who helped us were nice and polite, and it didn't take a half-hour for a milkshake like last time, but they consistently "forgot" stuff. For example, I asked for tomato sauce on the side FOUR SEPARATE TIMES, and didn't get it at all in the end - not even when they packed our leftovers to go. (I finally just gave up on it.)

Food wasn't too bad, though my ravioli was a bit undercooked. Hot chocolate left much to be desired, but my wife's cappuccino was okay.

And the owner sent us free dessert, so that was nice. :D
i think its the same owner that it used to be when it was called nina s cafe they changed cause waffle bar is a franchise name same terrible service as before though must agree with you the service was this bad a year and 2 years ago!!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 07:39:37 AM
i think its the same owner that it used to be when it was called nina s cafe they changed cause waffle bar is a franchise name same terrible service as before though must agree with you the service was this bad a year and 2 years ago!!

+1

I still dont like waffle bar that much...but IMHO it's 1,000 times better than Ninas...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 19, 2012, 07:55:11 AM
Paran Waffle Bar update: service still stinks.

ime i'd disagree.   i've been there a few times, including when they were very busy, and the service was great all of them.  the only time i had bad service was when we went for lunch and the owner wasn't in.     all the other times he was there and it was running very smoothly.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 19, 2012, 11:02:58 AM
if its like ninas, then the service is reeeally slow.

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 11:04:48 AM
Was at Muscat today. Their onion soup continues to be amazing.

#justsayin
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 19, 2012, 11:07:04 AM
if its like ninas, then the service is reeeally slow.



u havent been there? i dont find the service to be all that slow


Was at Muscat today. Their onion soup continues to be amazing.

#justsayin

true...how is the service there?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 11:07:28 AM
Can anyone compare the Sheraton Tel Aviv and the Hilton Tel Aviv (aesthetically, and level of service)?

I can get the Sheraton Tel Aviv for $280/night, 12,000 points, or 4800 points + $90.

I can get the Hilton Tel Aviv for $250/night, 50,000 points, or 25,000 points +$90.

Thoughts?

Maybe try here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1271.0
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 11:07:47 AM
if its like ninas, then the service is reeeally slow.
They were so bad I never understood how they stayed open that long
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 11:11:36 AM
Was at Muscat today. Their onion soup continues to be amazing.

#justsayin
Pic?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 11:12:23 AM
Maybe try here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1271.0

Thanks. Moved.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 11:12:43 AM
true...how is the service there?

Excellent. Wasn't too busy, but even when it is, I have amazing experiences there. The manager is actually a friend if mine. :D

I also really like that they have the ServiBell paging system. Instead of waving, one-finger-lifting, and "slichah"ing and trying to get your server's attention, you simply push a little button, and they come right over.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 19, 2012, 11:15:45 AM
So far had Maoz for diner last night. Felafal Hatmani melawach  felafal for brunch today. I want to go somewhere close by for dinner. I'm staying in Nachlaot, any recommendations? I'm feeling meet, but not hungry enough for Papagios all you can eat. Hows Rimon Bistro these days?

Anyone ever have luck having a table for 2 or more, and only some people doing the Brazilian Table? #goingwithwife
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
Excellent. Wasn't too busy, but even when it is, I have amazing experiences there. The manager is actually a friend if mine. :D
Are there any restaurants that the manager is not your friend?  :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 19, 2012, 11:17:43 AM
So far had Maoz for diner last night. Felafal Hatmani melawach  felafal for brunch today. I want to go somewhere close by for dinner. I'm staying in Nachlaot, any recommendations? I'm feeling meet, but not hungry enough for Papagios all you can eat. Hows Rimon Bistro these days?

Anyone ever have luck having a table for 2 or more, and only some people doing the Brazilian Table? #goingwithwife

Rimon is solid go for the Philly steak
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 19, 2012, 11:18:39 AM
Friday only, 49 shekel (not including drinks). Entrance op en till about 11:30-12:00, at 12ish they stop bringing in new food.
They serve breads, cheeses, salads, fresh omelets, shakshuka. At the end they bring in pizza's,

What time do they open? Is this for both Mamila and Ben Yehuda?

Thanks

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on November 19, 2012, 11:41:46 AM
I never used to eat bet yosef mehadrin, lately I have heard the hechscher became much better and want to ask if you guys eat it or not?
Wanna go to gabriels, but never went until now....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 19, 2012, 11:43:13 AM
I never used to eat bet yosef mehadrin, lately I have heard the hechscher became much better and want to ask if you guys eat it or not?
Wanna go to gabriels, but never went until now....


for dairy i'd do it...with meat you'd want to ask what meat/chicken is being used for starters
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 19, 2012, 11:59:10 AM
u havent been there? i dont find the service to be all that slow
nope, not yet, but at ninas, if i ate outside, i would generally have to come in to get what i needed as the service was too slow
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
Ninas was the only time in my life I sent food back into the kitchen. They tried serving me raw salmon

I have a great respect to them though, they started the bagel trend. Before it was only Tal and avichail.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 19, 2012, 12:01:03 PM
nope, not yet, but at ninas, if i ate outside, i would generally have to come in to get what i needed as the service was too slow

make a reservation and ask for indoor table...should be fine
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 19, 2012, 12:02:30 PM
I also really like that they have the ServiBell paging system. Instead of waving, one-finger-lifting, and "slichah"ing and trying to get your server's attention, you simply push a little button, and they come right over.
unless you bring your kids with, in which case they disable it when the kid constantly presses it...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 12:04:01 PM
Pic?

B'vakasha...

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/20/qu8yju8e.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 12:05:59 PM
I have a great respect to them though, they started the bagel trend. Before it was only Tal and avichail.

What about Sam's?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:07:23 PM
What about Sam's?
They copied Nina's, although he obviously did a much better job

זקניך ויאמרו לך#
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 12:08:49 PM
זקניך ויאמרו לך#

LOL ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on November 19, 2012, 12:08:57 PM
for dairy i'd do it...with meat you'd want to ask what meat/chicken is being used for starters

Dairy I am not worried, its the meat. They will most prob answer bet Yosef meat
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 12:10:00 PM
Dairy I am not worried, its the meat. They will most prob answer bet Yosef meat

PUTPAC. You never know, you just might be surprised...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: 972sg212 on November 19, 2012, 12:18:43 PM
Was at Muscat today. Their onion soup continues to be amazing.

#justsayin
Where is Muscat located ?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 19, 2012, 12:19:52 PM
I have a great respect to them though, they started the bagel trend. Before it was only Tal and avichail.
have you forgotten bonkers bagels?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 19, 2012, 12:20:10 PM
Where is Muscat located ?
kanfei nesharim
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 12:21:07 PM
Where is Muscat located ?

Kanfei Nesharim, Givat Shaul, Yerushalayim.

Or, is I would say in the "Where are you posting from?" thread... Eagles' Wings, Saul's Hill, Jerusalem. ;D

Why, does my onion soup look so appetizing? :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:23:49 PM
Let's just say those who like entrecôte are more likely to like muscat.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: 972sg212 on November 19, 2012, 12:29:02 PM
Kanfei Nesharim, Givat Shaul, Yerushalayim.

Or, is I would say in the "Where are you posting from?" thread... Eagles' Wings, Saul's Hill, Jerusalem. ;D

Why, does my onion soup look so appetizing? :)

Thanks it looks good I'm going to check it out
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 12:40:23 PM
@platinumguy...the garlic chicken at sheyan that you say is good...is it battered and fried and served in basket like the potatoes?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on November 19, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
har chotzvim not hatzofim
[/quote=+1 sorry i always mix them up  :-[
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on November 19, 2012, 12:54:07 PM
Ninas was the only time in my life I sent food back into the kitchen. They tried serving me raw salmon

I have a great respect to them though, they started the bagel trend. Before it was only Tal and avichail.
what about brunch bagel the one in guela i think was around before ninas
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:56:42 PM
@platinumguy...the garlic chicken at sheyan that you say is good...is it battered and fried and served in basket like the potatoes?
very possible, i don't remember
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 12:58:17 PM
very possible, i don't remember

Because I gave sheyan another chance and they were pretty good.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:59:05 PM
Because I gave sheyan another chance and they were pretty good.
Then it was definitely it  :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 19, 2012, 01:01:11 PM
Then it was definitely it  :D
lol
It might just be confirmed that was my last time there...not gana go for 2-3 good dishes...Sorry moishebatchy.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 19, 2012, 03:02:38 PM
Rimon is solid go for the Philly steak

Thanks. Went there, te sandwich was good, but very cheap on them meat. For 74 shekel on a sandwich it should be overstuffed. We had 2 in our party that ordered it, sent back a half that literately had 2 thin slices of meat on it, and they out a new full sandwich ( also very skimpy on the meat).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 03:04:42 PM
Thanks. Went there, te sandwich was good, but very cheap on them meat. For 74 shekel on a sandwich it should be overstuffed. We had 2 in our party that ordered it, sent back a half that literately had 2 thin slices of meat on it, and they out a new full sandwich ( also very skimpy on the meat).
Sad.  It did not used to be ('07-'09) skimpy on the meat.
Maybe ask how much they would charge for double meat a la Subway :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 19, 2012, 04:46:29 PM
Sad.  It did not used to be ('07-'09) skimpy on the meat.
Maybe ask how much they would charge for double meat a la Subway :D

If you do, make sure you find a server whose brain is capable of handling that concept, or her head will implode.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 20, 2012, 04:45:15 AM
Sad.  It did not used to be ('07-'09) skimpy on the meat.
Maybe ask how much they would charge for double meat a la Subway :D

I too had the sandwich a bunch of times over the years. It seems to me that ever since they rebranded themselves Rimon Bistro many thing have changed, including the Philly Sandwich. They now serve a few really thin slices of Entrocote  on a small bun. It used to be this Goliath of a sandwich stuffed with thick pieces of steak smothered in BBQ sauce. Now the steak is seared and served sans sauce. It is served closed, on a plate exactly the size of the sandwich (read puny).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: chuchem on November 20, 2012, 05:07:49 AM
I too had the sandwich a bunch of times over the years. It seems to me that ever since they rebranded themselves Rimon Bistro many thing have changed, including the Philly Sandwich. They now serve a few really thin slices of Entrocote  on a small bun. It used to be this Goliath of a sandwich stuffed with thick pieces of steak smothered in BBQ sauce. Now the steak is seared and served sans sauce. It is served closed, on a plate exactly the size of the sandwich (read puny).

I used to love it, but now its a joke. From one of the best sandwiches to the worst
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 20, 2012, 07:27:35 AM
they obviously changed chefs. the french fries used to be great but are now terrible
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 20, 2012, 09:03:25 AM
How's is the dairy restaurant Ticho House? I heard something about an all you can eat buffet on Tuesday night, anybody know more? 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: 972sg212 on November 20, 2012, 09:08:57 AM
How's is the dairy restaurant Ticho House? I heard something about an all you can eat buffet on Tuesday night, anybody know more?
 
All you can eat two types of pasta, some salad and cheeses ..... And wine
Went last year was eh IMHO
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 20, 2012, 09:27:24 AM
 
All you can eat two types of pasta, some salad and cheeses ..... And wine
Went last year was eh IMHO
+100
Went a few weeks ago and was not impressed at all
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 20, 2012, 09:33:46 AM
mmermss:

--- Quote from: 972sg212 on Today at 09:08:57 am --- 
All you can eat two types of pasta, some salad and cheeses ..... And wine
Went last year was eh IMHO

--- End quote ---
+100
Went a few weeks ago and was not impressed at all

Thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2012, 10:09:24 AM
I too had the sandwich a bunch of times over the years. It seems to me that ever since they rebranded themselves Rimon Bistro many thing have changed, including the Philly Sandwich. They now serve a few really thin slices of Entrocote  on a small bun. It used to be this Goliath of a sandwich stuffed with thick pieces of steak smothered in BBQ sauce. Now the steak is seared and served sans sauce. It is served closed, on a plate exactly the size of the sandwich (read puny).
I used to love it, but now its a joke. From one of the best sandwiches to the worst
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I sure hope you given someone important that feedback...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 20, 2012, 01:34:59 PM
Anyone know anything about rabbanut raishit telaviv?

ETA: It also seems alter native (recco'd by Dan) is also that hasgacha.

ETA(x2): Actually, this may be mehadrin, but it says rabanut raishit  ???

http://www.2eat.co.il/eng/alternative/about_gal.aspx?pid=7520
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Ergel on November 20, 2012, 02:10:22 PM
Anyone know anything about rabbanut raishit telaviv?

ETA: It also seems alter native (recco'd by Dan) is also that hasgacha.

ETA(x2): Actually, this may be mehadrin, but it says rabanut raishit  ???

http://www.2eat.co.il/eng/alternative/about_gal.aspx?pid=7520
Not familiar with the first hashgacha, but the second one is well respescted
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 20, 2012, 02:13:06 PM
Anyone know anything about rabbanut raishit telaviv?

ETA: It also seems alter native (recco'd by Dan) is also that hasgacha.

ETA(x2): Actually, this may be mehadrin, but it says rabanut raishit  ???

http://www.2eat.co.il/eng/alternative/about_gal.aspx?pid=7520

Lemme translate that for you: Rabbanut Mehadrin Tel Aviv + Chug Chasam Sofer Petach Tikva (Mehadrin).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
Anyone know anything about rabbanut raishit telaviv?

ETA: It also seems alter native (recco'd by Dan) is also that hasgacha.

ETA(x2): Actually, this may be mehadrin, but it says rabanut raishit  ???

http://www.2eat.co.il/eng/alternative/about_gal.aspx?pid=7520
BTW call to see when they have specials, IIRC there are certain times when you can get a great deal.
For me getting a chunky monkey milkshake was a big treat, but for non-CY folk I'm sure that's run-of-the-mill.

The creme brulee though should be very good as are some of the pasta dishes.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 20, 2012, 03:59:41 PM
Not familiar with the first hashgacha, but the second one is well respescted
Actually I've heard to the contrary.  I've always heard the chug chatam sofer petach tikva as being possibly 'problematic'.

Tel Aviv on the other hand, certifies very few Mehdrin restaurants.  FWIU/H, the few that they do have are good.  FYI, FWIW at 'Alternative' specifically, the mashgiach is a Chabadnik.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 22, 2012, 03:27:58 AM
Okay, I finally finished my epic post about the Avis-Lufthansa deal. But I'm afraid I'll kill the restaurant discussion... Should I go for it anyway? :P
restaurant discussion is officially dead.   let's have it... 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 22, 2012, 05:23:47 AM
restaurant discussion is officially dead.   let's have it... 
Was all at the DO. You missed it
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 22, 2012, 06:26:52 AM
Was all at the DO. You missed it
so were pretzels and beer, does that mean i can't eat them anymore?   
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 22, 2012, 06:29:34 AM
so were pretzels and beer, does that mean i can't eat them anymore?   
Not the ones that were eaten
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 22, 2012, 06:35:29 AM
Not the ones that were eaten
so who ate avis?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Shmelly on November 22, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
I can add a few reviews now.

Sheyan: Egg roll was decent. Entrecote skewers were amazing, I would highly recommend. Teriyaki chicken was really good. Chocolate peanut butter mousse dessert was pretty good, not too peanut buttery. Chinese Wall drink had no discernible alcohol in it. Service was excellent, food came really quick. Prices were decent and the place has nice decor. Look for Moishebatchy when you're there, he's the guy cutting the line. Luckily we were advised to place a reservation, as the place was packed. Roughly 13% tip is included in your bill.

Rimon Bistro What happened to this place? I always loved it in the past, now it was a massive disappointment. Philly steak sandwich had barely any meat in it, which might be a good thing as the little meat that was in there was severely undercooked. Since the last time I was there they also cut down tremendously on the amount of fries you get. The burger was just a burger, you'll find the same or better anywhere decent in America. I also ordered chicken nuggets to go, got back to my hotel and found wings instead of nuggets.  Huge thumbs down.

Sam Bagels Ate at the one on Paran several times. Decent food but insanely overpriced (5 bucks for a cream cheese bagel, $2 for a cookie). If you just want eggs, go down the block to...

Waffle Bar I wish someone had told me this before we ordered - ORDER ONE MAIN DISH TO SHARE! I got the Oreo belgian waffle, wife got the dulce de leche crepe, and both were really really good, but half of each dish went in to the garbage. (Not really a food you can take to go.) Food is not cheap, but on the bright side, they make scrambled eggs for just 3 shekel per egg. The presentation of the food is beautiful (I have pictures, will try to post later). Service is good and tip is not included in your bill.

I'll write more later.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 22, 2012, 12:19:06 PM
Was all at the DO. You missed it

and l'maaseh we paskened that its beyond a PITA and not so k'dai anymore....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on November 22, 2012, 12:44:16 PM
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
Chinese Wall drink had no discernible alcohol in it.

Happens sometimes. You're supposed to ask them to fix it.

Look for Moishebatchy when you're there, he's the guy cutting the line.

ROFLMAO!!! ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 12:50:25 PM
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?

Ma'adanei Zahav on Rechov Malachi, owned by my best friend's father-in-law, has an amazing cholent. So good, in fact, that you'd never guess it's actually pareve. :o

Okay, maybe I'm a little biased, but it is good. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 22, 2012, 12:50:33 PM
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?

Im sick but i put one up this afternoon or bring me some moishala's. or yoilys now :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 22, 2012, 12:51:21 PM
Any have ideas for tonight's chulent?

was listening to menachem tokers radio show today and he was talking about cholent for 2 hours straight...he declared today national cholent day...was giving out free cholent...made me so hungry
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 22, 2012, 12:51:53 PM
Roughly 13% tip is included in your bill.

Imteresting they dont tell you that.  Usually in Israel tip not included.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 12:53:38 PM
Imteresting they dont tell you that.  Usually in Israel tip not included.

These days, it does say it on the bottom of the receipt.

Oh, and BTW, great report Shmelly!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 22, 2012, 01:04:35 PM
Imteresting they dont tell you that.  Usually in Israel tip not included.
not always a meilah....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 22, 2012, 01:10:11 PM
not always a meilah....
I wasnt saying it was.  Just saying I was there a few nights ago and gave a tip...on top of their 13% because I thought tip wasn't included.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on November 22, 2012, 02:09:29 PM
Ma'adanei Zahav on Rechov Malachi, owned by my best friend's father-in-law, has an amazing cholent. So good, in fact, that you'd never guess it's actually pareve. :o

Okay, maybe I'm a little biased, but it is good. :)
Sorry, Pareve cholent is a no go.
Im sick but i put one up this afternoon or bring me some moishala's. or yoilys now :-)
Believe me I would, but I don't have a car.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 22, 2012, 02:18:29 PM
Believe me I would, but I don't have a car.
I thought you have good deals :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 02:19:04 PM
Believe me I would, but I don't have a car.

Quote from: hocker's signature
Car rental enthusiast, PM me for assistance.

Aleh sheesters geyin boorvis, eh? ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 02:20:16 PM
restaurant discussion is officially dead.   let's have it...

No CPR, eh? ;)

Okay, fine, here goes...

take a look at this thread   http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2861.msg28664#msg28664

basically after the 11th rental you're walking away with 3,000 points each 2 day rental.  if you value lh at about 1.7/1.8 a point, then you're getting $54 back on each 2 day rental.  that should pretty much cover the cost of a two day rental on a small car.   

Back in the day (as recently as a few weeks ago), one could get a class A or B car on a qualifying rate code (not all rate codes give miles) for $23-$25 per day. That meant every two days was $46-$50 (if you weren't paying tax), and was earning roughly $48 worth of miles (M&M used to be worth less than it is now), making the car more or less free. But one out of every three rentals had to be three days (since the week has seven days, which is not divisible by two), which meant paying $69-$75, while getting the same $48 of miles. Nu, a little sacrifice for Shabbos Koidesh. :)

Now, life is a bit more difficult. The rate codes that earn miles have all been updated to a three day minimum at $26 per day, and if you only take it for two days, you are charged $33 per day. Thus, a two day rental is $66, and a three day rental is $78. But... If you book specifically through NoachCar, you get a zikuy Shabbat of $14, bringing down the price of a Thursday-Sunday rental (3 days) to $64. (Noach is the only agent authorized to offer zikuy Shabbat for the "American" rate codes.)

Also, M&M has gone up slightly - with the right connections, you can find a buyer whereby the points will be worth $54, or $162 per week (three rentals).

So... let's do the math:

3 rentals are $66 + $66 + $64 = $194
Points are worth = $162
total cost per week after all is said and done: $32

Not to shabby, eh? A car for four-and-a-half bucks per day... ;D

Caveat: you want the points to credit automatically, since you don't want human eyes prying into your account unnecessarily. Blessings are only found in that which is hidden from the eye. :)

That being the case, try to avoid any unnecessary surcharges (like renting accessories on the same contract) or refunds (like demanding a few bucks back because you got the car with some gas missing), because touching the contract too much may cause your points to not credit automatically. Then you will have to make the difficult choice between forgoing the points for that rental altogether, or fighting for them and risking getting your account audited (kinda like how we try to avoid F/R triggers). Additionally, dealer has warned me that if the price drops below what you are supposed to pay for two days, you won't get any miles at all; so avoid, for example, taking a zikuy Shabbat on a contract of only two days. Better make the weekend rentals the three-day ones.

there are a couple things that need to be worked out though.    if you book it using the awd for the promo it's a higher rate.  supposedly though it's easy to book on a diff awd and then change it when you get into the store.  not sure if travel agent rate would work the same.     

This is the easy part: put the AWD on your Wizard, then have an agent (Noach, Yaari, Sruly Feig etc.) make the reservation for you. Make sure to give your Wizard number, and make sure to specify you want the HC or HZ rate code. Ta da! The AWD will be on your contract, and you will get the prices I mentioned above. :)

also, i don't think it would be worth it for most people if you need to spend an hour every 2 days returning the car and getting a new one, it's a major pita.   if you could work out a way with them to just stop by and fill out new papers or something, without actually returning the car it makes it much more feasible.     

True... let's just say, it helps to have friends in high places. :D

and of course you need to change the awd on each 2 day rental.

No, you don't... see above. :)

the other thing is the hold on your cc.  it would be very annoying if they put a new $1k hold on your cc for each rental...

-1

They can re-use the same hold again and again until it expires. I'm not sure if they do it automatically or if you have to ask, but it's definitely doable.

it usually takes about 10 days to come off.  but that's not such a big deal. 

Here's a little pro tip for anyone renting from Avis (not just people doing this promotion): once you return the car, you can ask the agent to manually cancel the hold, on the spot, instead of waiting for it to expire on its own.

i believe if you maxed it out from here until the end of the year (promo is through dec 31), you could do about 21 rentals, which is about 59k points (first 11 rentals earn less).      not the best, but still a great deal.

Here's where it gets a little sticky. Lufthansa's T&C's do not allow back-to-back rentals. This is not automatically enforced by the computer, but if they audit your account for whatever reason, you're screwed - they can count the entire period as one giant rental, and claw back all but 3,000 of the miles. In fact, someone lost close to half a million miles that way. :'(

The way around this is to make two accounts, and alternate between them, so that no account has back-to-back rentals. Even then they may detect duplicate accounts, so for best results, you make one account in your name and one account in your wife's name.

However... each account needs ten rentals before it starts earning the full bonus. That sets the "buy-in price" at twenty rentals - pretty steep for someone starting this late in the year.

also they've been renewing this every year for the last few years so you could always just wait for january and start then with a full year to do it.

Let's hope they do renew it. I've got my fingers Magen-David'ed... :)

One final note, that may not be obvious to some: Avis Israel is not losing anything because of the miles you are getting. Or even if the corporation as a whole is, the specific branch you rent from is not.

Why am I mentioning this? Because it is worth noting that as far as the branch is concerned, you are a gold mine. You are a steady customer binging them the better part of $1k in revenue per month. Couple that with being a friendly guy, and they will treat you like royalty. I've had cases where I booked an A and drove out in an F, or where I returned a car six hours late and the manager authorized them to override the computer and not charge me an extra day. I've rented minivans for half the price, and had them hold specific cars for me even when other paying customers wanted them.

Remember, you are not some schnorrer who has to feel self-conscious that you are "taking them for a ride" because of all the points you are getting. The employees all know exactly what I'm doing, and not only don't they have a problem with it, they actually admire me for it. And when I'm one of their best customers... what's not to like? ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 22, 2012, 02:26:44 PM
gr8 post...how long do you spend at the branch every few days dealing with the rental exchange?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: deals on November 22, 2012, 02:30:38 PM
I can add a few reviews now.

Sheyan: Egg roll was decent. Entrecote skewers were amazing, I would highly recommend. Teriyaki chicken was really good. Chocolate peanut butter mousse dessert was pretty good, not too peanut buttery. Chinese Wall drink had no discernible alcohol in it. Service was excellent, food came really quick. Prices were decent and the place has nice decor. Look for Moishebatchy when you're there, he's the guy cutting the line. Luckily we were advised to place a reservation, as the place was packed. Roughly 13% tip is included in your bill.



u pay for the ambiance u basically get Chinese food tiny portion (but delicious)and no side dishes not even rice 

Entrecote skewers were amazing

+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 22, 2012, 03:44:44 PM
No CPR, eh? ;)

Okay, fine, here goes...

Back in the day (as recently as a few weeks ago), one could get a class A or B car on a qualifying rate code (not all rate codes give miles) for $23-$25 per day. That meant every two days was $46-$50 (if you weren't paying tax), and was earning roughly $48 worth of miles (M&M used to be worth less than it is now), making the car more or less free. But one out of every three rentals had to be three days (since the week has seven days, which is not divisible by two), which meant paying $69-$75, while getting the same $48 of miles. Nu, a little sacrifice for Shabbos Koidesh. :)

Now, life is a bit more difficult. The rate codes that earn miles have all been updated to a three day minimum at $26 per day, and if you only take it for two days, you are charged $33 per day. Thus, a two day rental is $66, and a three day rental is $78. But... If you book specifically through NoachCar, you get a zikuy Shabbat of $14, bringing down the price of a Thursday-Sunday rental (3 days) to $64. (Noach is the only agent authorized to offer zikuy Shabbat for the "American" rate codes.)

Also, M&M has gone up slightly - with the right connections, you can find a buyer whereby the points will be worth $54, or $162 per week (three rentals).

So... let's do the math:

3 rentals are $66 + $66 + $64 = $194
Points are worth = $162
total cost per week after all is said and done: $32

Not to shabby, eh? A car for four-and-a-half bucks per day... ;D

Caveat: you want the points to credit automatically, since you don't want human eyes prying into your account unnecessarily. Blessings are only found in that which is hidden from the eye. :)

That being the case, try to avoid any unnecessary surcharges (like renting accessories on the same contract) or refunds (like demanding a few bucks back because you got the car with some gas missing), because touching the contract too much may cause your points to not credit automatically. Then you will have to make the difficult choice between forgoing the points for that rental altogether, or fighting for them and risking getting your account audited (kinda like how we try to avoid F/R triggers). Additionally, dealer has warned me that if the price drops below what you are supposed to pay for two days, you won't get any miles at all; so avoid, for example, taking a zikuy Shabbat on a contract of only two days. Better make the weekend rentals the three-day ones.

This is the easy part: put the AWD on your Wizard, then have an agent (Noach, Yaari, Sruly Feig etc.) make the reservation for you. Make sure to give your Wizard number, and make sure to specify you want the HC or HZ rate code. Ta da! The AWD will be on your contract, and you will get the prices I mentioned above. :)

True... let's just say, it helps to have friends in high places. :D

No, you don't... see above. :)

-1

They can re-use the same hold again and again until it expires. I'm not sure if they do it automatically or if you have to ask, but it's definitely doable.

Here's a little pro tip for anyone renting from Avis (not just people doing this promotion): once you return the car, you can ask the agent to manually cancel the hold, on the spot, instead of waiting for it to expire on its own.

Here's where it gets a little sticky. Lufthansa's T&C's do not allow back-to-back rentals. This is not automatically enforced by the computer, but if they audit your account for whatever reason, you're screwed - they can count the entire period as one giant rental, and claw back all but 3,000 of the miles. In fact, someone lost close to half a million miles that way. :'(

The way around this is to make two accounts, and alternate between them, so that no account has back-to-back rentals. Even then they may detect duplicate accounts, so for best results, you make one account in your name and one account in your wife's name.

However... each account needs ten rentals before it starts earning the full bonus. That sets the "buy-in price" at twenty rentals - pretty steep for someone starting this late in the year.

Let's hope they do renew it. I've got my fingers Magen-David'ed... :)

One final note, that may not be obvious to some: Avis Israel is not losing anything because of the miles you are getting. Or even if the corporation as a whole is, the specific branch you rent from is not.

Why am I mentioning this? Because it is worth noting that as far as the branch is concerned, you are a gold mine. You are a steady customer binging them the better part of $1k in revenue per month. Couple that with being a friendly guy, and they will treat you like royalty. I've had cases where I booked an A and drove out in an F, or where I returned a car six hours late and the manager authorized them to override the computer and not charge me an extra day. I've rented minivans for half the price, and had them hold specific cars for me even when other paying customers wanted them.

Remember, you are not some schnorrer who has to feel self-conscious that you are "taking them for a ride" because of all the points you are getting. The employees all know exactly what I'm doing, and not only don't they have a problem with it, they actually admire me for it. And when I'm one of their best customers... what's not to like? ;D
nice post!       at what point are you attaching your m&m number?   if it's automatically connected to your wizard number and you need to switch accounts every other rental period, that would mean you can't book the next one until you finish the first one and change out the number, no?

also, you sure yaari isn't authorized for the zikuy shabbat?    usually use em for my rentals
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 22, 2012, 03:56:05 PM
Great post Moishe!
I'm curious why their miles are worth so much. Dont they charge YQ? Is their award chart unusually generous?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 22, 2012, 03:59:18 PM
gr8 post moish   so why the tus tus?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 22, 2012, 04:04:48 PM
gr8 post moish   so why the tus tus?

for areas with little or no parking
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 22, 2012, 04:57:35 PM
I've been told to stay away from there as its not what it's cracked up to be (disappointing). Was told "roza's" is epically good (it's rabbanut, but ive beeb told by somone i trust that the meat itself is apparently a good hechsher, and its ok to eat there)

What hechsher is the meat? (maybe good for you isn't good for another)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 22, 2012, 05:00:30 PM
What hechsher is the meat? (maybe good for you isn't good for another)

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17387.msg345360#msg345360

(why are restaurants more discussed in 'Where are you posting from')  ???
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 22, 2012, 05:06:59 PM
Why am I mentioning this? Because it is worth noting that as far as the branch is concerned, you are a gold mine. You are a steady customer binging them the better part of $1k in revenue per month. Couple that with being a friendly guy, and they will treat you like royalty. I've had cases where I booked an A and drove out in an F, or where I returned a car six hours late and the manager authorized them to override the computer and not charge me an extra day. I've rented minivans for half the price, and had them hold specific cars for me even when other paying customers wanted them.

Remember, you are not some schnorrer who has to feel self-conscious that you are "taking them for a ride" because of all the points you are getting. The employees all know exactly what I'm doing, and not only don't they have a problem with it, they actually admire me for it. And when I'm one of their best customers... what's not to like? ;D

Care to share what branch u use?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on November 22, 2012, 05:55:31 PM


Sam Bagels Ate at the one on Paran several times. Decent food but insanely overpriced (5 bucks for a cream cheese bagel, $2 for a cookie). If you just want eggs, go down the block to...


They are a bit expensive but this ain't NY here. On average a bagel with cream cheese goes for 16 NIS which is about $4.25
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 06:43:58 PM
gr8 post...how long do you spend at the branch every few days dealing with the rental exchange?

Me? Generally less than 10 minutes. Other people? Not so quick...

True... let's just say, it helps to have friends in high places. :D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 22, 2012, 06:45:46 PM
Me? Generally less than 10 minutes. Other people? Not so quick...

Did you have those friends before you started seeing them every other day?  Or you became friends eventually?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 06:49:15 PM
nice post!

Thank you. :)

Was it worth waiting for? ;)

at what point are you attaching your m&m number?   if it's automatically connected to your wizard number and you need to switch accounts every other rental period, that would mean you can't book the next one until you finish the first one and change out the number, no?

Forgot that little detail... to simplify matters, I have two Wizard numbers. Each has the AWD on it, and each has a different M&M number. When Noach makes my reservation, it has the AWD and the M&M number on it already. I just have to make sure to keep track, and give Noach the right Wizard each time.

also, you sure yaari isn't authorized for the zikuy shabbat?    usually use em for my rentals

AFAIK, most agents can give zikuy shabbat on the Israeli/shekel codes (ZP/ZQ/ZY), but not on the American/dollar codes (HC/HE/HZ/0B). The Israeli codes do not (reliably) give miles.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 06:54:11 PM
Great post Moishe!

Thank you. :)

Like I asked yare... was it worth waiting for? :P

I'm curious why their miles are worth so much. Dont they charge YQ? Is their award chart unusually generous?

Yes, they charge a crapload of YQ. But their value lies in booking LH/LX First awards in advance (they are generally not available to partners, like MileagePlus, more than 14 days before the flight), as well as expanded overall availability on those airlines for people booking with M&M miles.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 06:58:59 PM
gr8 post moish

If you read the two previous posts, you know exactly what I'm gonna say now. ;)

so why the tus tus?

I drive the bike, my wife drives the car. Yes, we're a two-car household. ;D

Also...
for areas with little or no parking
... as well as incredible gas mileage, no sitting in traffic, and just the general awesome feeling of zooming down a hill at 40-50 MPH with the wind whipping against my face. 8)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 07:02:19 PM
Care to share what branch u use?

If I tell you, I'd have to kill you. >:D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 22, 2012, 07:08:22 PM
Did you have those friends before you started seeing them every other day?  Or you became friends eventually?

It definitely got significantly better once I started being a steady customer. But you know me... I'm the one who you asked if there's a single place where I'm not friends with the manager. :D

Problem is, workers keep leaving, and new ones keep coming, so I have to keep pace and make sure they all know me well, and understand the process of what I'm doing. Can't put all my eggs in one basket - you never know when the day will come when just the worker I happen to be on good terms with will be out sick, quit, or get fired. I learned that the hard way... more than once. :( Though at this point, I tease the workers that I am at Avis longer than every single one of them. ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on November 22, 2012, 08:43:33 PM
Sam Bagels .... but insanely overpriced (5 bucks for a cream cheese bagel, $2 for a cookie)...
+1
They are a bit expensive but this ain't NY here. On average a bagel with cream cheese goes for 16 NIS which is about $4.25
:o  For real?  I don't understand, bread and cheese are both cheaper in IL than in NYC.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 23, 2012, 02:59:18 AM
+1:o  For real?  I don't understand, bread and cheese are both cheaper in IL than in NYC.

but bagels is a specialty here in IL its crazy! though a full size shwarma is 9$ so u gain in other places too
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 23, 2012, 03:39:31 AM
+1
:o  For real?  I don't understand, bread and cheese are both cheaper in IL than in NYC.

You have to understand Israeli mentality, everything that's 'kemo beamerica' will cost you more...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 23, 2012, 03:43:59 AM
Prices are set by a single thing. Supply/demand. There's more competition for bagels in America, and as L'Chaim points out theres more demand at that price point than there is in America.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 23, 2012, 04:48:18 AM
So why a regular Baguette roll for 18 shek?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 23, 2012, 04:50:15 AM
So why a regular Baguette roll for 18 shek?

ur going to the wrong places :)   gotta go to the only good bakery for bread nechamas!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on November 23, 2012, 05:29:49 AM
ur going to the wrong places :)   gotta go to the only good bakery for bread nechamas!

I think he means a baguette sandwich.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 23, 2012, 05:31:36 AM
I think he means a baguette sandwich.

oopss lol
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 23, 2012, 08:27:15 AM
Guys be on the lookout for a new great sushie store opening soon in Centre in Jerusalem, Bar Ilan Yermiyahu area!

It's called Sushi Garden. Looks like they're opening very soon.
Located on Yirmiyahu next to Sixt, opposite Ganei Geula.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 24, 2012, 12:08:31 PM
i find the problem with the israeli bagel places is that when i want my bagel a little toasted, they put it in a machine which resembles a car crusher, and my bagel comes out the size of a pancake
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 24, 2012, 12:11:25 PM
i find the problem with the israeli bagel places is that when i want my bagel a little toasted, they put it in a machine which resembles a car crusher, and my bagel comes out the size of a pancake

ALOL!!! ;D

So true...

Though this can be mitigated somewhat by telling them "take it out after exactly 12 seconds." It actually helps...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 24, 2012, 12:23:35 PM
It's called Sushi Garden. Looks like they're opening very soon.
Located on Yirmiyahu next to Sixt, opposite Ganei Geula.

if its the old avis location theyll have something like 6 seats...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 24, 2012, 12:27:19 PM
if its the old avis location theyll have something like 6 seats...

Sixt is in the old Avis location.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 24, 2012, 12:28:45 PM
Sixt is in the old Avis location.

you're right...time will tell I guess...is there a mehadrin sushi place open on motzei shabbos in jerusalem?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 24, 2012, 12:29:55 PM
you're right...time will tell I guess...is there a mehadrin sushi place open on motzei shabbos in jerusalem?

Sheyan.

ETA: or the Plaza lobby, IIRC.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 24, 2012, 12:32:14 PM


ETA: or the Plaza lobby, IIRC.
How's the sushi there?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 24, 2012, 12:34:26 PM
How's the sushi there?

http://www.rol.co.il/sites/eng/sheyan/menu.html

at that price I hope they dont mess around
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 24, 2012, 12:34:53 PM
How's the sushi there?

Expensive. :P

Haven't had it in years, so can't swear by it.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 24, 2012, 12:43:09 PM
http://www.rol.co.il/sites/eng/sheyan/menu.html

at that price I hope they dont mess around

I quoted the Plaza lobby

I'm surprised they didnt ask moishebatchy to pose for the picture  :P
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 24, 2012, 01:33:31 PM
http://www.rol.co.il/sites/eng/sheyan/menu.html

at that price I hope they dont mess around

Unfortunately, they sometimes do - I've had rolls that were heavier on the rice than I would have liked...

But hey, it's a fancy restaurant - you can always send it back. :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 24, 2012, 01:39:19 PM
But hey, it's a fancy restaurant - you can always send it back. :)
And that why it shouldn't have to be sent back
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 24, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
It's called Sushi Garden. Looks like they're opening very soon.
Located on Yirmiyahu next to Sixt, opposite Ganei Geula.
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 24, 2012, 06:18:06 PM
And that why it shouldn't have to be sent back

Plan B, my son. Plan B.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 25, 2012, 10:49:35 AM
Off to Roza's in town  :D

...then nesher to the airport :(

(So far been to Alternativ in TA, Luciana in Mamilla (shoutout to chuchem and MoishyBatchy), Rimon for breakfast in mamilla, zislik for ice cream, pizza hut for a melave malke, and waffle bar for a little after shabbas snack)

Reviews to come
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 25, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
Off to Roza's in town  :D

...then nesher to the airport :(

(So far been to Alternativ in TA, Luciana in Mamilla (shoutout to chuchem and MoishyBatchy), Rimon for breakfast in mamilla, zislik for ice cream, pizza hut for a melave malke, and waffle bar for a little after shabbas snack)

Reviews to come
Too bad you missed the best breakfast place in Mamilla... Greg's.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: sal2011 on November 25, 2012, 11:26:47 AM
+1:o  For real?  I don't understand, bread and cheese are both cheaper in IL than in NYC.
thats not true milk and cheese is more expensive in IL then america its about 5 seq a bag which it doesnt say on it but i think its less then 1 litters in america one bottle is 2 litters and its the same price(about $2.03) making it more expensive here   :(
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 25, 2012, 12:52:05 PM
Off to Roza's in town  :D

...then nesher to the airport :(

(So far been to Alternativ in TA, Luciana in Mamilla (shoutout to chuchem and MoishyBatchy), Rimon for breakfast in mamilla, zislik for ice cream, pizza hut for a melave malke, and waffle bar for a little after shabbas snack)

Reviews to come
after that whole discussion you initiated you didn't even try sheyan or keyara??
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on November 25, 2012, 02:13:02 PM
after that whole discussion you initiated you didn't even try sheyan or keyara??

Unbeleivable!!

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/strong-no-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/strong-emoticon-2881.html)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on November 25, 2012, 02:18:21 PM
Unbeleivable!!

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/strong-no-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/strong-emoticon-2881.html)
what was wrong with the last version?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 25, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
Luciana in Mamilla (shoutout to chuchem and MoishyBatchy),

:D

Did you find the other place you were looking for last night? I don't see it mentioned anywhere... ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 25, 2012, 04:02:19 PM
which waffle bar? i was at the ramat eshkol one last nite...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Rivky on November 25, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
Just thought someone might want to know. I was in Rimon Milchigs in town tonight and they are having buy one get one free pizza. They were actually really good for 60 shekel for 2!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on November 25, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
Just thought someone might want to know. I was in Rimon Milchigs in town tonight and they are having buy one get one free pizza. They were actually really good for 60 shekel for 2!

Till when do they have it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: deals on November 25, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
Till when do they have it?

i think they have it every motsei shabbes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on November 25, 2012, 08:31:27 PM
Just thought someone might want to know. I was in Rimon Milchigs in town tonight and they are having buy one get one free pizza. They were actually really good for 60 shekel for 2!

this was sat night? god pik up never knew bout this thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2012, 03:45:30 AM
Chk out some new coupon deals here.
(Mods, can we merge these 2 threads?)

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18831.msg347405#msg347405
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 26, 2012, 03:56:23 AM
(Mods, can we merge these 2 threads?)

Use the "Report to moderator" link.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 26, 2012, 04:03:27 AM
Chk out some new coupon deals here.
(Mods, can we merge these 2 threads?)

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18831.msg347405#msg347405
great deals!
But lets not merge the threads please, no reason for it.
Not everyone reads the Israel thread, but groupon deals is a seperate thing. [Just like the US]
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2012, 04:07:33 AM
great deals!
But lets not merge the threads please, no reason for it.
Not everyone reads the Israel thread, but groupon deals is a seperate thing. [Just like the US]
Understood, but this thread is primarily eating, as are most published Groupon deals.
If not, then I'll just post links to the updates.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Rivky on November 26, 2012, 04:57:43 AM
this was sat night? god pik up never knew bout this thanks

This was not on Saturday night. It was sunday night. And it looked like they are having a set promotion for a little while at least. Signs about it all over the store and on every table.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 26, 2012, 05:54:13 AM
If not, then I'll just post links to the updates.

Good idea. Especially since I read this thread, but not the Groupon IL thread. ;D
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 26, 2012, 06:13:05 AM
Good idea. Especially since I read this thread, but not the Groupon IL thread. ;D
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on November 26, 2012, 06:26:52 AM
Any coffee shops in Har Hotzvim or the surrounding area for a business meeting? Preferably with minimum a Rabbanut Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 26, 2012, 06:31:12 AM
Any coffee shops in Har Hotzvim or the surrounding area for a business meeting? Preferably with minimum a Rabbanut Mehadrin.
The bigger buildings will have cafes in the lobby
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on November 26, 2012, 06:37:33 AM
Thanks! I'm actually in the Beck building and will probably use the cafe here, although it isn't Mehadrin.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2012, 06:54:52 AM
Good idea. Especially since I read this thread, but not the Groupon IL thread. ;D
It'll also allow me to boost my ego through increasing my post count.
After all, a man is defined by the amt of his postings.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 26, 2012, 06:58:24 AM
It'll also allow me to boost my ego through increasing my post count.
After all, a man's elite status is defined by the amt of his postings.

FTFY.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2012, 07:42:48 AM
FTFY.
Speak for yourself.
I mean, gee whiz, if I can't be proud of size 15 shoes, then I have to rely on my post count.

(And if I sound giddy, it's b/c a project I worked on for the last 2+ yrs was just sent out to the shuk!!)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 26, 2012, 08:40:59 AM
(And if I sound giddy, it's b/c a project I worked on for the last 2+ yrs was just sent out to the shuk!!)

Mazel tov. Now THAT'S something to brag about. ;)

Details?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: AJK on November 26, 2012, 10:05:46 AM
Too bad you missed the best breakfast place in Mamilla... Greg's.

We were taken out to b'fast, so we didn't choose the location.

after that whole discussion you initiated you didn't even try sheyan or keyara??

Would that I could've, but there was just no time to fit everything in, unfortunately.

after that whole discussion you initiated you didn't even try sheyan or keyara??

Yep, stopped by for a bit. Was nice enough :P

which waffle bar? i was at the ramat eshkol one last nite...

The one near (or on) emek.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 26, 2012, 11:18:40 AM
which waffle bar? i was at the ramat eshkol one last nite...

how was?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 27, 2012, 06:53:21 AM
Food stops on my upcoming trip.

Felafel:
Felafel Siya (on bar ilan)
now history.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: MosheP on November 27, 2012, 09:59:31 AM
now history.

Was just there last week Wednesday. It closed since then?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 27, 2012, 03:16:14 PM
how was?
i ordered this, intrigued by the "bisli spice"
(http://i47.tinypic.com/oa3jnm.jpg)

but received this
(http://i45.tinypic.com/118lkxe.jpg)


i also found the waffle to be too one note, hence done after 2 or 3 bites
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on November 27, 2012, 03:26:00 PM
"bisli spice"
rofl
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on November 27, 2012, 03:30:14 PM
i ordered this, intrigued by the "bisli spice"
(http://i47.tinypic.com/oa3jnm.jpg)

but received this

Was it any good at least?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on November 27, 2012, 04:40:11 PM
Was it any good at least?
i wouldnt order it again

the bisli was soggy after a few minutes
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on November 27, 2012, 04:45:56 PM
Was just there last week Wednesday. It closed since then?
yup, at the look of things.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: YudiG on November 28, 2012, 09:57:40 AM
anyone been to ricotta in har chotzvim...?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: duvid crockett on December 01, 2012, 05:11:11 PM
Me? Generally less than 10 minutes. Other people? Not so quick...
GREAT POST! And I can testify that I was having some problems while I was renting my car on Thursday and in walks Moishebatchy! The entire staff greets him with a warm hello and after seeing that I was friends with him they treated me much better! And and as far as his "paperwork " it took him approximately 5 minutes to take care of his business
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 02, 2012, 01:09:38 AM
GREAT POST! And I can testify that I was having some problems while I was renting my car on Thursday and in walks Moishebatchy! The entire staff greets him with a warm hello and after seeing that I was friends with him they treated me much better! And and as far as his "paperwork " it took him approximately 5 minutes to take care of his business
I saw that the newspapers were outside snapping photos of him as well.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on December 02, 2012, 12:34:07 PM
Sushi Garden

We had a fried salmon roll (not tempura) and a spicy salmon roll. Both came very quick and tasted like the real stuff, although they were smaller than what I'm used to (I guess they stil need to grow up :P). Then there's the vegetable tempura which I found to be delicious. Service was very good and prices were okay (I did not expect such small rolls for that price). 
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 02, 2012, 12:35:59 PM
is that the new place on yirmiyahu?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on December 02, 2012, 12:54:38 PM
is that the new place on yirmiyahu?
Yeah, Lchaim, what are the prices like?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 02, 2012, 01:07:08 PM
whats hashgacha?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on December 02, 2012, 02:06:07 PM
Yeah, Lchaim, what are the prices like?

30-40 shekel a roll.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on December 02, 2012, 02:06:50 PM
whats hashgacha?

I think it's chasam sofer.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
What's the exact address?

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on December 02, 2012, 02:26:59 PM
Sushi Garden

We had a fried salmon roll (not tempura) and a spicy salmon roll. Both came very quick and tasted like the real stuff, although they were smaller than what I'm used to (I guess they stil need to grow up :P). Then there's the vegetable tempura which I found to be delicious. Service was very good and prices were okay (I did not expect such small rolls for that price).

u have a phone number for them?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 02:38:10 PM
u have a phone number for them?
025666488. Don't deliver yet.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 02:39:26 PM
I think it's chasam sofer.
It is
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: yare on December 02, 2012, 02:41:22 PM
It is
eh,  they couldn't get at least agudas yisrael/rubin?   

there's a sushi place in har nof with a chasam sofer also iirc
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 02:44:59 PM
eh,  they couldn't get at least agudas yisrael/rubin?   

there's a sushi place in har nof with a chasam sofer also iirc
What's it called? How is it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 02, 2012, 03:02:33 PM
osaka, not quite har nof
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 03:07:55 PM
Sushi Garden

came very quick and tasted (almost) like the real stuff, although they were smaller than what I'm used to (I guess they stil need to grow up :P). Service was very good and prices were okay (I did not expect such small rolls for that price).

+1

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on December 02, 2012, 05:09:23 PM


30-40 shekel a roll.
just popped in, actually a vegetable roll is 20 shekel
eh,  they couldn't get at least agudas yisrael/rubin?
nah, prob here is none of the others give (lets not get into it again now pls)
osaka
Beit Hadfus, Givat Shaul
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 05:10:53 PM
just popped in, actually a vegetable roll is 20 shekel

It might change...they said they're changing their menu tonight.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on December 02, 2012, 05:14:03 PM
It might change...they said they're changing their menu tonight.

You can expect it to change a few more times. They're listening to people's opinions and change according to that.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 05:16:19 PM
You can expect it to change a few more times. They're listening to people's opinions and change according to that.

Was annoying they dont take cc's yet
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on December 02, 2012, 05:22:05 PM
You can expect it to change a few more times. They're listening to people's opinions and change according to that.
so hopefully it might be 15 :-)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: L'Chaim on December 02, 2012, 05:30:40 PM
Was annoying they dont take cc's yet

+1, it was supposed to work today already.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 02, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
so hopefully it might be 15 :-)

How'd you like the sushi?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Jkhein on December 02, 2012, 05:37:44 PM
How'd you like the sushi?
was driving past in rush, just popped out to look at menu and store, and went.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on December 02, 2012, 07:29:26 PM
They're listening to people's opinions and change according to that.
Well I hope ppl are voice their opinions, especially about the rolls being small. I want everything to be in order by the time I return ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 04, 2012, 05:37:28 AM
Anywhere to eat in Ranana?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 04, 2012, 05:38:28 AM
Anywhere to eat in Ranana?
Hess - but I doubt it exists and is adequately kosher
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 04, 2012, 05:39:49 AM
Hess - but I doubt it exists and is adequately kosher
Ok...anything else you know of?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 04, 2012, 05:43:41 AM
Well I hope ppl are voice their opinions, especially about the rolls being small. I want everything to be in order by the time I return ;)
youre in america and youre thinking about sushi in israel?!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 04, 2012, 05:44:35 AM
youre in america and youre thinking about sushi in israel?!
Hes trying to ease the pain, otherwise his kid might refuse to board the plane
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 04, 2012, 06:21:04 AM
Just ate at agas tapuach by city hall.
Used the 100 for 50 sh coupon.
Bought the broccoli and nut crepe soufflee and a pasta with eggplant and cheese.
We were very happy with both dishes, and the total came out to 108 (pre-coupon)

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: BISPRO on December 04, 2012, 07:04:23 AM
http://bleeckerbakery.co.il/branches/%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D-%D7%9E%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%97%D7%95%D7%91/

if you go to rimon down town , you should stop here for a visit
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: soursticks on December 04, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
Anyone go jeeping in the north?
Going in January and there seem to be many choices?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 09, 2012, 04:15:09 PM

anyways, was at keyara tonight and was very impressed. first good meal there in a very long time.

about the cocktail the previous poster wrote, the china wall, i gotta add, its a great drink....for the wife
well, hit up keyara tonight and was completly underwhelmed. im gonna give this place a pass for a while.

kinda reminds me of dwight howards free throws. make one, miss one....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Chaikel on December 10, 2012, 12:05:40 AM
well, hit up keyara tonight and was completly underwhelmed. im gonna give this place a pass for a while.

kinda reminds me of dwight howards free throws. make one, miss one....
What did you order?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 10, 2012, 02:49:11 AM
the bread with cumin aioli which was really their best item was not good. the first time we actually didnt finish it. shame if they changed their bread guy

rissotto with chicken, chicken was good, rissotto was not cooked properly
corned beef - false advertising
tongue special - unlike last time, this time was terrible
chinese wall was ordered with no alcohol; although served sans vodka, they put in triple sec - "i thought you just wanted me to take out the vodka"

the only thing that was good was the special chanuka churros desert which was really why we came in the first place (if you order it, be sure to order chocolate sauce on the side so you can control how much goes on)

Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Rivky on December 10, 2012, 08:48:29 AM
Can someone tell me where exactly this new sushi place on Yirmiyahu is? Thanks
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: hocker on December 10, 2012, 11:01:21 AM
Can someone tell me where exactly this new sushi place on Yirmiyahu is? Thanks
Across Mercantil.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 10, 2012, 11:04:49 AM
Can someone tell me where exactly this new sushi place on Yirmiyahu is? Thanks
Right by the roundabout...cant miss it if its open
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 10, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
Right by the roundabout...cant miss it if its open
Right up the block from where I had my biking accident.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 10, 2012, 02:36:34 PM
Right up the block from where I had my biking accident.

Details?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 10, 2012, 03:55:16 PM
Details?
+1
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 11, 2012, 05:03:07 AM
Biking accident to the wetness on the road.
Not as bad as the one last year, when a cabby stopped suddenly going down Yirmiyahu, and I hit him full speed and flipped over...

Bentched gomel both times obviously.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 11, 2012, 06:06:01 AM
Where is the cheapest place to buy smirnoff ice? I want to bring a bunch back to the states?  Also who has the best kabukim?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 11, 2012, 06:32:50 AM
Where is the cheapest place to buy smirnoff ice? I want to bring a bunch back to the states?

Do they not sell them in the US?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 11, 2012, 06:46:47 AM
Do they not sell them in the US?
Nop. Only flavored ones, not original... So if I want to bring back a couple dozen bottles where is the best place to buy them?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 07:10:50 AM
Nop. Only flavored ones, not original... So if I want to bring back a couple dozen bottles where is the best place to buy them?

Probably A. A. Pyup.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 11, 2012, 07:12:51 AM
Probably A. A. Pyup.
+1
Not sure how much he charges but he ships to america...
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 11, 2012, 07:25:36 AM
+1
Not sure how much he charges but he ships to america...
Don't need shipping, I have an empty 50 pound suitcase for that :)

Thanks guys ill check it outT.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 07:37:29 AM
Don't need shipping, I have an empty 50 pound suitcase for that :)

Thanks guys ill check it outT.

How many pieces were you allowed to bring?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 11, 2012, 07:54:18 AM
How many pieces were you allowed to bring?
  Just 1, but it was all stuff for a cousin in seminary, I pack light :)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 08:44:28 AM
  Just 1, but it was all stuff for a cousin in seminary, I pack light :)

Aha. ;)

Clothing goes in hand luggage? Or you just haven't changed since you got here? (Just trying to figure out if you'll smell by the DO. ;D)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 11, 2012, 08:52:39 AM
Aha. ;)

Clothing goes in hand luggage? Or you just haven't changed since you got here? (Just trying to figure out if you'll smell by the DO. ;D)
Bit of both, mainly handbag. I Think I posted on ddf before about how much I can fit into my carryon luggage.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 11, 2012, 08:53:30 AM
Bit of both, mainly handbag. I Think I posted on ddf before about how much I can fit into my carryon luggage.
Link?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 11, 2012, 09:13:42 AM
Link?
that's for you to find. I am on a crappy mobile. IIRC its in a thread about carryons
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 11, 2012, 12:10:45 PM
Link?
you took to long. Here you go http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13127.msg172126#msg172126
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 12:14:22 PM
you took to long. Here you go http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13127.msg172126#msg172126

Holy crap. That's a LOT for one bag! :o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 11, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
you took to long. Here you go http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13127.msg172126#msg172126

I've never really weighed my carry ons....but every time I fly each carry on usually weighs more than a suitcase...and I'm taking 5 carry ons....
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on December 11, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
Holy crap. That's a LOT for one bag! :o

Plus if u fly delta now there overhead bins are abnormal big.  What I used to do was also have 60lb carry ins and then send it down right before i boarded. Now on delta they said u should have enough room and i did with my 3 38lb carry ins  ;D. 

Though i flew lax>nyc AA  and they were such nazis about the size and the weight
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 01:19:46 PM
Though i flew lax>nyc AA  and they were such nazis about the size and the weight

Good data point.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on December 11, 2012, 01:20:18 PM
Plus if u fly delta now there overhead bins are abnormal big.  What I used to do was also have 60lb carry ins and then send it down right before i boarded. Now on delta they said u should have enough room and i did with my 3 38lb carry ins  ;D. 

Though i flew lax>nyc AA  and they were such nazis about the size and the weight
:o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on December 11, 2012, 02:08:36 PM
:o

Yes. They were actually nazis i was scared of that lady - i had to sleep on the floor

Though she asked politely
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 11, 2012, 02:10:40 PM
Yes. They were actually nazis i was scared of that lady - i had to sleep on the floor

Though she asked politely
:o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 02:18:14 PM
:o
8)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on December 11, 2012, 02:22:35 PM
8)

I know it OT. But I really had to sleep on the floor i was there at 1 am for a 6am flight
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 11, 2012, 02:23:08 PM
I know it OT. But I really had to sleep on the floor i was there at 1 am for a 6am flight
Why did you get there so early? No lounge?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on December 11, 2012, 02:23:56 PM
8)

I know it OT. But I really had to sleep on the floor i was there at 1 am for a 6am flight - it was my pre cc days?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 11, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
well it finally will happen

modern will ditch ou at the end of the month  :'(

chaval
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: mmermss on December 11, 2012, 03:54:37 PM
well it finally will happen

modern will ditch ou at the end of the month  :'(

chaval
What will they have after?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 11, 2012, 03:57:13 PM
rabbanut
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 11, 2012, 04:18:35 PM
well it finally will happen

modern will ditch ou at the end of the month  :'(

chaval

Oh, snap. :'(
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: jj1000 on December 12, 2012, 01:44:50 PM
On my way to alternative. Any suggestions besides the crème brulee?

Also ate there any can't be missed entrees in Israel I should know of?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 12, 2012, 01:47:32 PM
well it finally will happen

modern will ditch ou at the end of the month  :'(

chaval
Theyve been saying that for ages. Ill believe it when I see it.

Did you hear it from the mashgiach?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 12, 2012, 03:31:24 PM
Theyve been saying that for ages. Ill believe it when I see it.

Did you hear it from the mashgiach?
yup, spoke to the mashgiach as well

they always said it might happen but not a definite date

its game over for real this time
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 12, 2012, 03:33:12 PM
yup, spoke to the mashgiach as well

they always said it might happen but not a definite date

its game over

:'(

Any idea why?!
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on December 12, 2012, 03:34:05 PM
well it finally will happen

modern will ditch ou at the end of the month  :'(

chaval

Maybe they'll get a better hechsher?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 12, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
:'(

Any idea why?!
was told because of money, which was the reason theyve been mulling it over for a while now
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 12, 2012, 03:36:11 PM
Maybe they'll get a better hechsher?
Impossible, it's the best there is.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 12, 2012, 03:36:25 PM
Maybe they'll get a better hechsher?
nope. rabbanut reg
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 12, 2012, 03:36:33 PM
Maybe they'll get a better hechsher?

#wishfulthinking
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 12, 2012, 03:36:49 PM
Impossible, it's the best there is.

Ummmmm... LOL? ???
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 12, 2012, 03:37:03 PM
Impossible, it's the best there is.
no offense, but sometimes you say things that are  :o
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 12, 2012, 03:37:45 PM
was told because of money, which was the reason theyve been mulling it over for a while now

Have they weighed that against how many of us will tell them to pound sand once they make the change? They really think it's worth it?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 12, 2012, 03:41:28 PM
Have they weighed that against how many of us will tell them to pound sand once they make the change? They really think it's worth it?
i discussed it with him and theyre well aware they will lose customers. but at the end of the day, most people dining there, at least when im there, look like people that would eat rabbanut
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: U-no-me! on December 12, 2012, 03:45:27 PM
Impossible, it's the best there is.

LOL  ;)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 12, 2012, 10:56:35 PM
Ummmmm... LOL? ???
+1  ::)
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 13, 2012, 04:27:20 AM
3 more food coupons:

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18831.msg361286#msg361286
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 13, 2012, 05:11:58 AM
no offense, but sometimes you say things that are  :o

On a more serious note, is the OU is Israel as widely accepted as it (appears to be) in the US?
Is there a difference in how it's viewed in the yeshivas for US students, vs how it's perceived in 'Israeli' yeshivas?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on December 13, 2012, 09:13:52 AM
On a more serious note, is the OU is Israel as widely accepted as it (appears to be) in the US?
Is there a difference in how it's viewed in the yeshivas for US students, vs how it's perceived in 'Israeli' yeshivas?

Im told to be skeptical. And better to stick with bodatz rubin Shearis and even machpud
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 13, 2012, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: rots5 link=topic=1885.m?sg361353#msg361353 date=1355408032
Im told to be skeptical. And better to stick with bodatz rubin Shearis and even machpud
can you share who told you that?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 13, 2012, 09:20:40 AM
Im told to be skeptical. And better to stick with bodatz rubin Shearis and even machpud
B/c it's lower than the OU in the US, or b/c it's easy to be more machmir in EY?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on December 13, 2012, 09:29:12 AM
can you share who told you that?
Rabbi Yehuda Baum -  dont know for sure why. But not sure if its to be more macir but honestly i think it can be more of an issue. Though ppl do eat at papagao and so on
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on December 13, 2012, 12:02:03 PM
B/c it's lower than the OU in the US, or b/c it's easy to be more machmir in EY?
Even in the US meat companies strive to find another hechsher besides OU.
However OU has their hands in everything in the US, if you don't trust 'em you'll be eating fruits and veggies all day.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Drago on December 13, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
Even in the US meat companies strive to find another hechsher besides OU.
However OU has their hands in everything in the US, if you don't trust 'em you'll be eating fruits and veggies all day.
So we trust them very b'dieved?
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Dan on December 13, 2012, 12:25:44 PM
Depends for what.  To supervise slaughtering it seems that way.
I know in the past they've been lenient on grape juice brands allowed in products like gushers, enough so that even OU mashgichim avoided them.  Not sure if that's still true.
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: moish on December 13, 2012, 12:27:30 PM
Depends for what.  To supervise slaughtering it seems that way.
I know in the past they've been lenient on grape juice brands allowed in products like gushers, enough so that even OU mashgichim avoided them.  Not sure if that's still true.
its still true
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 13, 2012, 01:31:08 PM
yup, spoke to the mashgiach as well

they always said it might happen but not a definite date

its game over for real this time
I've heard a definite date at least once before. The Mashgiach has a way of pointing it out
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 13, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
Im told to be skeptical. And better to stick with bodatz rubin Shearis and even machpud
I'll tell something which may irk some of you, but so be it (just seeking the truth).

I just heard very recently from someone very familiar with the (a) overseas meat plant/slaughterhouse that provides glatt  kosher meat for a large percentage in Israel and the USA, he said that the honest truth is, the abovementioned hechsherim (that @rots5 mentioned, he specifically mentioned those 3 so called "stellar hechsherim" ) when it comes to the meat industry and the issues with cattle etc that affect kashrus, they are absolutely clueless, (they're like little kids in a museum of modern art).

I'll just say that of those hechsherim that he mentioned that really do know their stuff, is the OU.  He says they are definitely expert in their field.

Just sayin, take it or leave it.

Now, I'm not here to say the OU is the best Hechsher out there, far from it.  They use many kullos which are astonishing to say the least (simple example would be tuna).
Title: Re: Israel Master Thread: Things To Do, Places To Eat
Post by: rots5 on December 13, 2012, 06:11:33 PM
I'll tell something which may irk some of you, but so be it (just seeking the truth).

I just heard very recently from someone very familiar with the (a) overseas meat plant/slaughterhouse that provides glatt  kosher meat for a large percentage in Israel and the USA, he said that the honest truth is, the abovementioned hechsherim (that @rots5 mentioned, he specifically mentioned those 3 so called "stellar hechsherim" ) when it comes to the meat industry and the issues with cattle etc that affect kashrus, they are absolutely clueless, (they're like little kids in a museum of modern art).

I'll just say that of those hechsherim that he mentioned that really do know their stuff, is the OU.  He says they are definitely expert in their field.

Just sayin, take it or leave it.

Now, I'm not here to say the OU is the best Hechsher out there, far from it.  They use many kullos which are astonishing to say the least (simple example would be tuna).

Wow.  U seem to he going against more yeshiva lite with ur statement u know - i don't