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Title: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: gozalim on March 21, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
I have Amex Platinum, and will be stuck for a few hours in Frankfurt on a Lufthansa stopover, any decent lounges in that airport?
that I'm eligible for?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 21, 2010, 02:14:12 PM
Amex plat/priority pass have access to what I call the generic lounges.

If you are used to the usa standards, you might enjoy yourself.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: gozalim on March 21, 2010, 02:18:43 PM
Amex plat/priority pass have access to what I call the generic lounges.
regardless of airline being flown?
(generic being delta/continental/AA?)
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 21, 2010, 02:22:40 PM
basicly.

the non-airline specific ones are usually a bit less.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2010, 03:08:36 PM
US issued AMEX Plat's do not come with Priority Pass, so you probably can't access any of their lounges.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: eliteflyer on March 21, 2010, 05:29:44 PM
This is a YMMV topic. Some reps at the lounges dont know the difference between the US cards and Asian/European ones.

I was once guested into the Plaza Lounge at YVR with such a card.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 21, 2010, 05:41:21 PM
This is a YMMV topic. Some reps at the lounges dont know the difference between the US cards and Asian/European ones.

I was once guested into the Plaza Lounge at YVR with such a card.

in europe they dont care about my credit card. they want to see a priority pass...
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: eliteflyer on March 21, 2010, 09:31:19 PM
in europe they dont care about my credit card. they want to see a priority pass...
Of course, thanks to our good friend SuperFlyer many Forum members can expect access through numerous previously inaccessible doors
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 21, 2010, 10:03:24 PM
I too will be stopping off for a few hours in Frankfurt. Im flying business class...i should have access to these lounges, right? If so, which lounge should i be on the lookout for?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Charles The Govenor on March 21, 2010, 10:03:55 PM
What airline?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: me on March 21, 2010, 10:10:31 PM
I too will be stopping in Frankfurt for a few hours. I dont have the CC - is there anything else to be done?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 21, 2010, 10:10:51 PM
What airline?

Lufthansa
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 22, 2010, 05:53:25 AM
I too will be stopping in Frankfurt for a few hours. I dont have the CC - is there anything else to be done?

if you are lucky, and subscribed to my promo, and you have it  on time, or meet a guy like me in FRA, who invites anyone that looks yiddish into the lounge.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: MOSES on March 22, 2010, 07:28:07 AM
if you are lucky, and subscribed to my promo, and you have it  on time, or meet a guy like me in FRA, who invites anyone that looks yiddish into the lounge.
lol, ur funny. someone once invited me to a lounge in kiev.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2010, 10:05:12 AM
I once asked 2 yeshivish looking guys in IAH if they wanted to come with me into the "club" and they looked at me like I just fell off the moon  ;D

Their loss, IAH term E Presidents club is awesome!
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 22, 2010, 02:08:18 PM
I invited Post Postpartum some people in the IST TR lounge, meaning, while getting into the main hall, a girl (obviously jewish) asks me if I'm coming from the TLV flight as she was meeting her father, so I told her yes. Her accent told me where she was traveling to, so I figured that she has still a few hours till her flight, so I told her that she will be allowed in the lounge with her father.

Coming to the lounge,  I left a message that I have 2 guests, named xxxxx traveling to XXX. When I left this note with their info was still there.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 22, 2010, 02:09:19 PM
I once asked 2 yeshivish looking guys in IAH if they wanted to come with me into the "club" and they looked at me like I just fell off the moon  ;D

Their loss, IAH term E Presidents club is awesome!

You should have used the term 'lounge', they must have thought something else  ;-)
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2010, 02:43:15 PM
You should have used the term 'lounge', they must have thought something else  ;-)
True, but their look was so much funnier this way. And CO does call it a club after all  ;)
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 22, 2010, 02:47:12 PM
True, but their look was so much funnier this way. And CO does call it a club after all  ;)

Talking about "club", I thought I'd whack one of those CO's on the head with it...

I got my brother *A G (can you believe it?), and they didnt let him into the CO ewr lounge, because they serve alcohol, and he is 17.

Is this everywhere in the usa like that?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Charles The Govenor on March 22, 2010, 04:17:59 PM
I was invited into a rcc in sfo and accepted gladly was delayed 6 hours. 
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: gozalim on March 22, 2010, 07:26:52 PM
Talking about "club", I thought I'd whack one of those CO's on the head with it...

I got my brother *A G (can you believe it?), and they didnt let him into the CO ewr lounge, because they serve alcohol, and he is 17.

Is this everywhere in the usa like that?
speaking of CO ewr lounge and alcohol; they charge for the alcohol there, right?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 22, 2010, 07:32:20 PM
speaking of CO ewr lounge and alcohol; they charge for the alcohol there, right?

I dont know, but if they do, they should just say that they dont sell to him.

Dan, this is an embarrassment to your airline.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2010, 07:42:34 PM
speaking of CO ewr lounge and alcohol; they charge for the alcohol there, right?
No.
CO gives free beer/liquor, etc. in all of their lounges and does not check your ID, which is exactly why they don't allow access to those under 21 unless they are brought in by someone 21+.

DL and US also have free alcohol in their clubs.
AA and UA both charge for alcohol in their clubs.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 22, 2010, 08:00:00 PM
No.
CO gives free beer/liquor, etc. in all of their lounges and does not check your ID, which is exactly why they don't allow access to those under 21 unless they are brought in by someone 21+.

DL and US also have free alcohol in their clubs.
AA and UA both charge for alcohol in their clubs.

US has only free like the cheapest type of beer, just enough to save money by not letting in the <21.

If the <21 brings in an adult, does it count, or the adult needs to bring him in.

as the "nice" lady in CLT said, you are responsible for your guest... So I told her, that if im responsible for my guest, us airways is responsible for me, as Im their guest....
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: gozalim on March 22, 2010, 08:22:39 PM
No.
CO gives free beer/liquor, etc. in all of their lounges and does not check your ID, which is exactly why they don't allow access to those under 21 unless they are brought in by someone 21+.

DL and US also have free alcohol in their clubs.
AA and UA both charge for alcohol in their clubs.

darn! i should have taken advantage of it... (the whole bar-like set-up, made it look like they would...)
oh well, next time...
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2010, 09:24:52 PM
US has only free like the cheapest type of beer, just enough to save money by not letting in the <21.

If the <21 brings in an adult, does it count, or the adult needs to bring him in.

as the "nice" lady in CLT said, you are responsible for your guest... So I told her, that if im responsible for my guest, us airways is responsible for me, as Im their guest....
The whole 21+ thing is YMMV.
My 19 year old bro got into LAX and IAH with AMEX Plat but got refused at EWR and CLE.

Officially the member with the entry credentials needs to be 21+ but it's possible that if you bring someone 21+ with you that they would let it slide or perhaps not even notice that you're under 21.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 23, 2010, 05:26:43 AM
darn! i should have taken advantage of it... (the whole bar-like set-up, made it look like they would...)
oh well, next time...

bring next time a coolbag/box along  ;-)
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 23, 2010, 05:27:30 AM
The whole 21+ thing is YMMV.
My 19 year old bro got into LAX and IAH with AMEX Plat but got refused at EWR and CLE.

Officially the member with the entry credentials needs to be 21+ but it's possible that if you bring someone 21+ with you that they would let it slide or perhaps not even notice that you're under 25.

Yeah, guessed it. my brother looks young.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: yid on March 26, 2010, 03:24:27 AM
the frankfort business class lounge is really nothing special, just fruit and fountain soda and beer... so its not such a plus. the first class lounge is alot nicer. but their strict and dont let business class passengers in.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 26, 2010, 11:01:56 AM
the frankfort business class lounge is really nothing special, just fruit and fountain soda and beer... so its not such a plus. the first class lounge is alot nicer. but their strict and dont let business class passengers in.

Are there showers and all in the business class lounge in frankfurt?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 26, 2010, 01:32:47 PM
Are there showers and all in the business class lounge in frankfurt?

this would be really a tough one, there are tons of lounges there.

Senator Lounge     Frankfurt/Main International     Terminal A, Level 2 opposite A26, Schengen
   Senator Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal B, level 3, central area
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal 1, departure area B, opposite gate B44
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Lufthansa "Tower Lounge" Terminal A; Level 3 (Non Schengen); access at Gate A65
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal A Schengen Level 2 opposite A26
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal 1, Departure B, near to Gates 24-28
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure area C, Priority gates C14/C15
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure Gate C, Priority gate C16

those are just the ones for star alliance gold...
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 26, 2010, 01:59:58 PM
this would be really a tough one, there are tons of lounges there.

Senator Lounge     Frankfurt/Main International     Terminal A, Level 2 opposite A26, Schengen
   Senator Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal B, level 3, central area
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal 1, departure area B, opposite gate B44
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Lufthansa "Tower Lounge" Terminal A; Level 3 (Non Schengen); access at Gate A65
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal A Schengen Level 2 opposite A26
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal 1, Departure B, near to Gates 24-28
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure area C, Priority gates C14/C15
   Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure Gate C, Priority gate C16

those are just the ones for star alliance gold...

Wow!

Im flying business class on LH. Which ones can i access? all of them?
Or better question, which one SHOULD i go to?  ;D
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 27, 2010, 04:56:33 PM
Which airline are you flying into, and which one out of FRA, and what are the respective classes.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 27, 2010, 11:38:20 PM
Which airline are you flying into, and which one out of FRA, and what are the respective classes.

Flying LH into FRA and departing FRA on LH.

All business class...
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 28, 2010, 06:55:49 AM
Flying LH into FRA and departing FRA on LH.

All business class...

Business Lounge     Frankfurt/Main International     Terminal 1, departure area B, opposite gate B44
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Lufthansa "Tower Lounge" Terminal A; Level 3 (Non Schengen); access at Gate A65
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal A Schengen Level 2 opposite A26
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal 1, Departure B, near to Gates 24-28
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure area C, Priority gates C14/C15
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure Gate C, Priority gate C16
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "Lufthansa Welcome Lounge" (Arrival Lounge) - located immediately behind the baggage claim area in Arrivals Area B, Terminal 1 (public area)

not sure which is nicer, but if you have a 10 hour stopover, you can test them all.

Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 28, 2010, 10:18:23 AM
Business Lounge     Frankfurt/Main International     Terminal 1, departure area B, opposite gate B44
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Lufthansa "Tower Lounge" Terminal A; Level 3 (Non Schengen); access at Gate A65
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal A Schengen Level 2 opposite A26
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    Terminal 1, Departure B, near to Gates 24-28
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure area C, Priority gates C14/C15
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "C/D-pier", Terminal 1, Departure Gate C, Priority gate C16
Business Lounge    Frankfurt/Main International    "Lufthansa Welcome Lounge" (Arrival Lounge) - located immediately behind the baggage claim area in Arrivals Area B, Terminal 1 (public area)

not sure which is nicer, but if you have a 10 hour stopover, you can test them all.



Thanks!
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: gozalim on April 02, 2010, 12:28:08 PM
however Amex Plat doesn't get you into any of the Star alliance ones. only like one admirals club lounge which is not near any of the lufthansa gates/terminals.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 03, 2010, 06:42:37 PM
I rely on you that you figured where you will land, and where your next flight takes off, as well as where your lounge is situated.
If none of those places are on your way I suggest that with a stopover less than 1:45, don't even bother.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: me on April 07, 2010, 12:14:56 PM
Will BMI Silver get me into any of these lounges???
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 07, 2010, 04:12:23 PM
Tricky question, where do you fly from FRA, in economy I presume.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: me on April 07, 2010, 06:37:13 PM
Tricky question, where do you fly from FRA, in economy I presume.
I have a 2 hour 20 minute layover in frankfurt - from tlv on my way to jfk... in economy. I hope this BMI silver can get me in somewhere... it would be awesome!
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 07, 2010, 07:58:46 PM
Im sorry, you wont get into it with bmi Silver in your case.

Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on April 08, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
BMI silver will only get you into BMI lounges I believe.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 08, 2010, 08:36:03 PM
BMI silver will only get you into BMI lounges I believe.

you believe correctly.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: CAG on April 08, 2010, 10:43:52 PM
Of course, thanks to our good friend SuperFlyer many Forum members can expect access through numerous previously inaccessible doors
what promo?????
Title: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 11, 2010, 03:06:10 PM
Anyone know what type of VIP stuff I get by flying LH First Class from SIN-FRA and then again LH First from FRA-TLV?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: aussiebochur on July 11, 2010, 03:39:50 PM
Anyone know what type of VIP stuff I get by flying LH First Class from SIN-FRA and then again LH First from FRA-TLV?
Have a read through Dan's trip report on the main sight. Pretty thorough write up of Lufthansa First and pics of everything.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 11, 2010, 04:53:25 PM
Hmmm...I should check Dansdeals more often...what's the link?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: aussiebochur on July 11, 2010, 05:36:10 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7877
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 11, 2010, 08:07:20 PM
Nice. Dan, I picked 83A & C before I even saw that you sat there, but for one trip I wanted to try the other side, H & K. Do you advise against it? Is 83AC THE BEST?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2010, 08:27:03 PM
Nice. Dan, I picked 83A & C before I even saw that you sat there, but for one trip I wanted to try the other side, H & K. Do you advise against it? Is 83AC THE BEST?
IIRC, 83H/K has a permanent stand in front of you.
In 83AC a stand is only there prior to takeoff, although you do have a FA directly facing you during takeoff/landing, but for the duration of the flight 83AC is much better.

Definitely recommend 83AC all the way, although LH First really can't compare to LX First.  Although nothing can touch the FCT in FRA, but it is a pain to find and get to.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 12, 2010, 12:41:24 PM
Thanks, I confirmed 83AC for all 3 flights that I will be on that type of plane.

Just found out from Thai that in the 1-2-1 config, both "2" seats are taken and therefore I had to grab 1A and 2A. Maybe someone will switch with us.

Dan, any insight on how to get to the FCT in FRA and what I need to know? I will be having a 6 hours stopover. You also mentioned that if you order in advance you can get Kosher food. Who do I call?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
You need to go outside security.
Either you can go to First Class check-in and they'll provide transportation or you can just make a left outside the airport and walk for 5 minutes to the FCT.  Once there ring the bell and someone will escort you inside.
Be sure to let them know it's a special occasion and you want the Porsche to take you to the plane.

Try emailing LH in TLV to order kosher meals in FRA at: tlvgpmiles@dlh.de

Let me know if they are able to do that as otherwise I have a phone number somewhere that also may be able to arrange them.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 12, 2010, 12:51:34 PM
So when exactly were you driven to the plane in a porsche? For your next flight? Can I be driven (by any car for that matter) FROM my SIN-FRA First Class flight to the FCT upon arrival?

I will e-mail LH TLV and let you know what the response is.

Thanks.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2010, 01:24:57 PM
So when exactly were you driven to the plane in a porsche? For your next flight? Can I be driven (by any car for that matter) FROM my SIN-FRA First Class flight to the FCT upon arrival?

I will e-mail LH TLV and let you know what the response is.

Thanks.
I don't think they'll pick you up from the flight, but you can try.
They will drive you from the FCT to the plane.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 12, 2010, 04:22:16 PM
Playing disabled and requesting special assistance would do the trick, but won't advise it.

Till the fct I had a 40 mins walk. Following dans advice when walking outside (to the left) its seems like you are walking the direction of a highway or so...
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 12, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
You must walk slow...5 minute walk for Dan and 40 minute walk for you?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 12, 2010, 05:55:35 PM
You must walk slow...5 minute walk for Dan and 40 minute walk for you?

you obviously don't know FRA, He probably landed somewhere else.

I once had to almost jog for 50 minutes to catch my connecting flight over there.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2010, 06:18:36 PM
you obviously don't know FRA, He probably landed somewhere else.

I once had to almost jog for 50 minutes to catch my connecting flight over there.
50 minute jog, lol.

But FRA is very very big.  But we were still able to run the length of the entire airport in just over 10 minutes when connecting from CDG to VCE.  We ran like hell, it's entirely possible that it was about 2 miles.

The 5 minutes is once you get outside, figure on a 10-30 minute walk from your gate just to get outside.  My wife thought I was nuts, but later agreed it was totally worth it.

Also everyone in the airport will deny existence of the FCT to you and direct you to the regular FCL.  We were told by a few agents it didn't exist and by one agent that it could not be reached by connecting passengers. Hogwash.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 12, 2010, 06:29:15 PM
50 minute jog, lol.

But FRA is very very big.  But we were still able to run the length of the entire airport in just over 10 minutes when connecting from CDG to VCE.  We ran like hell, it's entirely possible that it was about 2 miles.

The 5 minutes is once you get outside, figure on a 10-30 minute walk from your gate just to get outside.  My wife thought I was nuts, but later agreed it was totally worth it.

Also everyone in the airport will deny existence of the FCT to you and direct you to the regular FCL.  We were told by a few agents it didn't exist and by one agent that it could not be reached by connecting passengers. Hogwash.

Yes, for some strange reason, no one knows of the fct. Or they are not supposed to talk about it?

Your wife thought you were nuts, and after running the marathon, she was too exhausted to think, so you just un-nutted.

My dear friend, not in FRA, or CDG or AMS will you run in 10 minutes from one side of the airport to another. Not even in BRU from B70 to A70 (some call the A terminal also M terminal, but by people using the A/M schengen terminal, its affectionately known as "the yimach shemoy terminal")
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2010, 06:34:49 PM
My dear friend, not in FRA, or CDG or AMS will you run in 10 minutes from one side of the airport to another. Not even in BRU from B70 to A70 (some call the A terminal also M terminal, but by people using the A/M schengen terminal, its affectionately known as "the yimach shemoy terminal")
That's what the FA on the flight told me as well, that it was physically impossible for us to run that far in such a short period of time.  They even rebooked us on the next flight which wouldn't have gotten us to TLV on time for Shavuos.

But she's never seen us run though  :D
Perhaps it was a 15 minute run.  It's not the first "impossible" connection that I've made.

Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 12, 2010, 06:47:10 PM
That's what the FA on the flight told me as well, that it was physically impossible for us to run that far in such a short period of time.  They even rebooked us on the next flight which wouldn't have gotten us to TLV on time for Shavuos.

But she's never seen us run though  :D
Perhaps it was a 15 minute run.  It's not the first "impossible" connection that I've made.



I've done impossible connections before, i made 4 mins from lounge in the a/b terminal till gate e53 in zrh, so, the answer, yes SF is right, and yes, sometimes there is kvitsas haderech.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 12, 2010, 07:11:21 PM
So to sum it up, I get off the plane, ask to be transported to the FCT, if the response is "What!?" then I walk with my wife outside the airport (meaning go through immigration and customs) walk out the front door, make a left, walk for about 5 minutes while hugging the building on my left, and miraculously this will appear?

http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki2/images/8/85/Fra_lh_terminal_outside.JPG
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 12, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
So to sum it up, I get off the plane, ask to be transported to the FCT, if the response is "What!?" then I walk with my wife outside the airport (meaning go through immigration and customs) walk out the front door, make a left, walk for about 5 minutes while hugging the building on my left, and miraculously this will appear?

http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki2/images/8/85/Fra_lh_terminal_outside.JPG
Something along those lines, although the First Class checkin in the regular terminal will know about the FCT and can probably arrange transportation.

When you walk to the FCT you arrive downstairs where there's no main entrance.  You need to ring a bell IIRC and they'll come open the door a few minutes later.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 13, 2010, 03:13:25 AM
This hugging the building to the left is correct, and once you have reached the end of the building, you just carry on straight for some 100 yards, and yes, it will magically appear.
I've posted on DD somewhere a pic of the building.

However, I doubt you will get transportation till the fct, and depending on where your plane drops you, you might have a long walk till the place where you exit the terminal.

(The idea of the fct is meant for people making their check-in in FRA, hence its location)
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 13, 2010, 05:18:41 AM
(The idea of the fct is meant for people making their check-in in FRA, hence its location)
Or for people who have a 6 hour layover and have arranged to have Kosher food brought to the FCT for them.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 13, 2010, 05:35:29 AM
Or for people who have a 6 hour layover and have arranged to have Kosher food brought to the FCT for them.

No, you can have your kosher meal delivered to any fcL
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 13, 2010, 06:31:24 AM
That wasn't my point.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 13, 2010, 01:32:46 PM
So what is your point?

You tell them you deserve to go to the lounge, they send you to the closest fcl.

You want kosher meal, they will deliver it to your chosen lounge.

Under what pretext will you convince them to bring you to the fct?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
So what is your point?

You tell them you deserve to go to the lounge, they send you to the closest fcl.

You want kosher meal, they will deliver it to your chosen lounge.

Under what pretext will you convince them to bring you to the fct?
You want a sleeping room.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 13, 2010, 01:54:01 PM
Good try, they have this also in fcl.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 13, 2010, 02:00:17 PM
Umm...because I'm flying First Class...isn't that enough?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2010, 02:02:18 PM
Good try, they have this also in fcl.
You want to sample at least 10 different $200+ scotches  :D
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2010, 02:02:32 PM
Umm...because I'm flying First Class...isn't that enough?
Sure, but possibly not enough to get a ride.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: steve2 on July 13, 2010, 02:04:21 PM
You want a sleeping room.

 great way to keep under the radar, tell the Germans some Lame excuse (even if its true) and feed them some more reasons to Love Us. Id say come up with something alot better and believable or simply dont press the issue with them.

No problem asking but if they dont jump and say OK we will transport you and if you look very Jewish Id say start a walkin or go to another Lounge, rather then brow beat them and come up with lines to try and get ones way and to keep the old lines about Jews alive and well
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 13, 2010, 02:07:18 PM
First Class isn't enough, you have to explain to them that its an award tix.
If this isn't enough, tell you bought the miles, so you will leave them speechless.

Basically, you ask them to bring you to bring you outside the airport, and then back in.

Its just interesting to see this fct, but lemaase luxury wise, if you eat kosher, its all the same thing.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2010, 02:26:52 PM
great way to keep under the radar, tell the Germans some Lame excuse (even if its true) and feed them some more reasons to Love Us. Id say come up with something alot better and believable or simply dont press the issue with them.

No problem asking but if they dont jump and say OK we will transport you and if you look very Jewish Id say start a walkin or go to another Lounge, rather then brow beat them and come up with lines to try and get ones way and to keep the old lines about Jews alive and well
Why is that lame???
I slept for a good few solid hours after waking at at 3AM in VCE to catch a flight to FRA with a 6 hour connection.

Personally I just walked after a few LH employees denied the very existence of a FCT and a "TSA" type person even laughed when I suggested there was such a thing as a terminal just for First Class folk.
Kind of bizzarro truthfully.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: steve2 on July 13, 2010, 02:39:34 PM
Why is that lame???
I slept for a good few solid hours after waking at at 3AM in VCE to catch a flight to FRA with a 6 hour connection.

Personally I just walked after a few LH employees denied the very existence of a FCT and a "TSA" type person even laughed when I suggested there was such a thing as a FCT.
Kind of bizzarro truthfully.

 we were talking about brow beating the Germans into providing transport to the Lounge, and reread what I posted, to start a walkin = ask if told no dont stand there and try to think of things to get them to do it as most likely a person will say things that make no sense and the agents arent Stupid and will come to the conclusion that you are simply trying to get something you arent entitled to and simply Lying thru your teeth to achieve that

 sort of when a person gave an excuse why they didnt do their homework, yea the dog might have actually ate it but dont say that, as most likely it will fall on deaf ears. So here you are gonna tell the agent see Im exhausted I just came off a 9 hr flight and even thou I was in FC or Biz I didnt sleep a wink since I wanted to get my moneys worth out of the service and watch as many movies as I could. Even if its True would you if you were the agnet believe it,I wouldnt. In Elis case its a 4 hr flight from TLV that leaves at 5am do U really think they would think you didnt sleep at all

 Im not saying dont go there, all Im saying is dont make a FOOL out of oneself with the reasons you tell them why they should supply transport for you, especially if as SF says what ever you can get there you can get in the other lounges
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2010, 03:00:15 PM
we were talking about brow beating the Germans into providing transport to the Lounge, and reread what I posted, to start a walkin = ask if told no dont stand there and try to think of things to get them to do it as most likely a person will say things that make no sense and the agents arent Stupid and will come to the conclusion that you are simply trying to get something you arent entitled to and simply Lying thru your teeth to achieve that

 sort of when a person gave an excuse why they didnt do their homework, yea the dog might have actually ate it but dont say that, as most likely it will fall on deaf ears. So here you are gonna tell the agent see Im exhausted I just came off a 9 hr flight and even thou I was in FC or Biz I didnt sleep a wink since I wanted to get my moneys worth out of the service and watch as many movies as I could. Even if its True would you if you were the agnet believe it,I wouldnt. In Elis case its a 4 hr flight from TLV that leaves at 5am do U really think they would think you didnt sleep at all

 Im not saying dont go there, all Im saying is dont make a FOOL out of oneself with the reasons you tell them why they should supply transport for you, especially if as SF says what ever you can get there you can get in the other lounges
The FCL pales in comparison to the FCT.  Everything is much nicer and over-the-top in the FCT from the scotches to the amenities, to the food and fruit, to the facilities, etc.

And the Germans in the lounges were some of the nicest people I've ever encountered on this planet.  They went completely out of their way from the staff, to chauffeur, to the FA's and pilot, to keep my trip itinerary a secret from my wife.  And they upgraded us even though US doesn't allow changes post-departure and no business inventory was open for awards.
They chauffeur you from the lounge to the plane without asking, so I'm sure it's only a matter of finding the right agent to get a ride to the FCT.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: steve2 on July 13, 2010, 03:25:14 PM
The FCL pales in comparison to the FCT.  Everything is much nicer and over-the-top in the FCT from the scotches to the amenities, to the food and fruit, to the facilities, etc.

And the Germans in the lounges were some of the nicest people I've ever encountered on this planet.  They went completely out of their way from the staff, to chauffeur, to the FA's and pilot, to keep my trip itinerary a secret from my wife.  And they upgraded us even though US doesn't allow changes post-departure and no business inventory was open for awards.
They chauffeur you from the lounge to the plane without asking, so I'm sure it's only a matter of finding the right agent to get a ride to the FCT.

 Im not talking against the German agents, nor putting them down either. Nor did I say it doesnt pay to go to that Lounge (I havnet been in it and the few times Ive been thru FRA it was just enough time to daven and time for my connecting flight, just the way I LOVE it to be, but thats Me).

 My pt was its OK to ask and say , excuse I we are looking to get to the FCT is there a way to get there other then walking there, does LH supply a means of transport. If they say yes Great go for it, if they say what are U talking about theres no such lounge or no we dont supply transport. Simply say Thank You and head on over on your own 2 feet. If they ask why do U want to go there when there are Lounges in here Dedicated for you, you can tell them something but it shouldnt be Lame like oh I heard its much nicer over there, or I want to try 100 different top Scotches or I want to get my moneys worth out of my tkt. After all its not meant as a Transit Lounge

It seems its really acheck-in Lounge and at some Airports once you tell them you want to Exit the Secure area look at.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2010, 03:30:34 PM
Im not talking against the German agents, nor putting them down either. Nor did I say it doesnt apy to go to that Lounge (I havnet been in it and the few times Ive been thru FRA it was just enough time to daven and time for my connecting flight, just the way I LOVE it to be, but thats Me).

 My pt was its OK to ask and say , excuse I we are looking to get to the FCT is there a way to get there other then walking there, does LH supply a means of transport. If they say yes Great go for it, if they say what are U talking about theres no such lounge or no we dont supply transport. Simply say Thank You and head on over on your own 2 feet. If they ask why do U want to go there when there are Lounges in here Dedicated for you, you can tell them something but it shouldnt be Lame like oh I heard its much nicer over there, or I want to try 100 different top Scotches or I want to get my moneys worth out of my tkt. After all its not meant as a Transit Lounge

It seems its really acheck-in Lounge and at some Airports once you tell them you want to Exit the Secure area look at.
Agreed, which is why I did what I did in FRA...walk there on my own 2 legs.
Have you ever flown through FRA in LH F? If you do it's really a shame to never check out the FCT.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: steve2 on July 13, 2010, 03:42:49 PM
Agreed, which is why I did what I did in FRA...walk there on my own 2 legs.
Have you ever flown through FRA in LH F? If you do it's really a shame to never check out the FCT.

 Nope, did UA in Biz as an OPUP a few times :-)) but usually I fly Coach.

 I didnt forsee Eli making a rukuss but there are all different types on this site and I could forsee where someone wouldnt have understood everything and would be standing there saying How dare you treat a FC person this way etc etc when its not a Benefit for a Transiting FC person and theyd be ona free tkt to boot. sort of like watching these same types at the Car Rental counter at TLV swearing at the agent that they better not charge them for Liability coverage since their printout and res didnt say they had to have it etc etc. Funny a person I know tried that and really went NUTS they simply refused to rent them acar in the end under any circumstances, they didnt believe me when I told them no way will you drive away w/o paying for Liability, heck they ended up not driving away at all. They did get a car for alot more $$ the next day in town via another company. But Im sure the counter agents had only nice thoughts about these Frum guys after they left,NOT

 

 
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 13, 2010, 03:55:12 PM
Whoa! We got a lot of talk here. Everybody relax. I won't make a rukess. I'll ask them to transport me and my wife because it's 5am (landing time) and we have 5 hours till our next flight.

Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: steve2 on July 13, 2010, 04:12:18 PM
Whoa! We got a lot of talk here. Everybody relax. I won't make a rukess. I'll ask them to transport me and my wife because it's 5am (landing time) and we have 5 hours till our next flight.

Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.

 so why go to the FCT when theres the FCL within the secure area? We understand why but they wont, and as I said above Eli I didnt think you would make a stink about it, but others will that was my concern. ive been turned away from Lounges Im allowed entrance to simply since I wasnt traveling with my Card, happened to me with BA (my AA status gets me in , and LH my CO and UA status gets me in) and both times I simply turned away and went on my merry way. With BA I was able to eventually get a print out showing my status , only since I was wearing a yamaka that time I didnt want her to think I was trying to get in w/o being entitled to. She apologized and said she did think I was up to no good, but that the rules still required that I present my AA card (was FIMed from CO to BA), I told her I didnt print it in order to get in but instead to show her I wasnt making upa story and BSing her. She then said Thanks and said if I wanted to I could go in and grab a couple of drinks but that I couldnt stay inside, I said Thanks but its almost time to board the flight now anyway.

 had to do the same thing in London where there was a long layover but they allowed me in based on the printout. LH is known no *Gold card = No Entrance you can stand on your head for all they care you wont be allowed in, of cause flying Biz or FC gets you in

 I had that problem getting into aLounge in AMS as I wasnt connecting further on and they didnt want to let me in, when my friend saw me he came over and they wanted to see his tkt, in the end they told us both to Please leave as its not an Arrival lounge and werent happy that some how he was able to gain entrance
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: steve2 on July 13, 2010, 05:21:56 PM


Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.

 I'll tell you a True story

 One Shabbos a number of yrs ago in the Ranban shul in The Jewish Quarter of The Old City during Musof a group of camera yielding German tourists walked in

It was explained to them by my friend (I wasnt there) that its the Jewish Sabbath and its forbidden to take pictures, but they are welcomed back any other time to do so. Most started to leave but 1 explained that they wont be able to come back and that he wanted some pictures of an Orthodox Shul, at which myfriend simply remarked , then who told you guys to destroy and burn all the ones down in Europe as you did. The German turned Red and did a Exit Stage Left ASAP
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2010, 05:26:51 PM
Oh, and just BTW, the Germans have been pretty good in the past at "transporting" Jews. They transported about 6 million of them in the 1940's. I doubt they forgot what it's like.
Perhaps that's what makes being transported from the FCT in a Porsche onto the plane oh so sweet...
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 13, 2010, 05:44:36 PM
My DD (dear dan), you are used to usa lounges, where i always wonder, why did i walk those extra 150 yards to get there.

In the fcl in fra or muc you will get the same level of perfection, except the person accompanying you inside which is nice.

I prefer muc (besides the kosher meal part which i never managed to receive).
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 13, 2010, 05:54:57 PM
You need to go outside security.
Either you can go to First Class check-in and they'll provide transportation or you can just make a left outside the airport and walk for 5 minutes to the FCT.  Once there ring the bell and someone will escort you inside.
Be sure to let them know it's a special occasion and you want the Porsche to take you to the plane.

Try emailing LH in TLV to order kosher meals in FRA at: tlvgpmiles@dlh.de

Let me know if they are able to do that as otherwise I have a phone number somewhere that also may be able to arrange them.

So far no response. What are my other options?
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 13, 2010, 06:02:18 PM
So far no response. What are my other options?

you can call senator germany, ask them to forward a request to the catering service, asking obviously for kosher and stating what you would like to eat.

doesnt always work....
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: aussiebochur on July 13, 2010, 09:06:53 PM
You want to sample at least 10 different $200+ scotches  :D
;D

And the Germans in the lounges were some of the nicest people I've ever encountered on this planet.  They went completely out of their way from the staff, to chauffeur, to the FA's and pilot, to keep my trip itinerary a secret from my wife.
Well, almost...
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 14, 2010, 02:59:43 AM
Wasn't the kidnapping your wife thing in MUC?

According to FT at least...

Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Yosel on July 14, 2010, 01:27:51 PM
Good try, they have this also in fcl.
where do i call to order my kosher meal? i'm traveling on 09/01 Lufthansa F/C via FRA, and to which FCL do have them deliver it?
Thanks
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 14, 2010, 02:01:37 PM
where do i call to order my kosher meal? i'm traveling on 09/01 Lufthansa F/C via FRA, and to which FCL do have them deliver it?
Thanks


Its better to email tlvgpmiles@dlh.de

you choose which lounge.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 15, 2010, 09:55:02 AM
I e-mailed them and did not get a response.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Yosel on July 18, 2010, 12:37:03 PM
I e-mailed them and did not get a response.
I emailed them on July 16, and got a response today, i included my itinerary, and they confirmed my kosher meal in the FC lounge
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Yosel on July 18, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
I e-mailed them and did not get a response.
Customer service representative
Reservation and Ticketing Agent
Lufthansa German Airlines
Miles and More Team

TLVGP
37 Sheerit Israel St.
P.O.B. 8082
Tel Aviv-Jaffa 61080, Israel
Phone: +972-1-80-937-1-937
Fax : +972-3-6825622
EMAIL:tlvgpmiles@dlh.de
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 18, 2010, 06:50:31 PM
I also got a response that my Kosher meal would be waiting for me in the First Class Terminal.

Thanks
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2010, 07:02:40 PM
I also got a response that my Kosher meal would be waiting for me in the First Class Terminal.

Thanks
Enjoy!
Don't forget to sample at least $1,000 of fine scotches.
And the shoe polish machine in the bathroom.
And getting any clothes pressed.
Getting pictures of the Porsche up close to the plane.
Etc...
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: MLM on July 18, 2010, 08:55:29 PM
if I have a business class ticket tlv-fra-jfk on LH using CO miles. can I change it to First without paying a change penalty of $150? It is more than 21 days in advance.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: aussiebochur on July 18, 2010, 09:55:47 PM
if I have a business class ticket tlv-fra-jfk on LH using CO miles. can I change it to First without paying a change penalty of $150? It is more than 21 days in advance.
I think the fee is only for changing origin and destination but I'm not sure.
But keep in mind, if you do change to F you'll have to pay the miles required for a F ticket even if don't fly all the legs in F.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: MLM on July 18, 2010, 10:05:30 PM
I only have to pay the return in F the going will stay in what it is already.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2010, 10:12:26 PM
I only have to pay the return in F the going will stay in what it is already.
True.  I would guess you would have to redeposit and pay the fee ($75 for non-elites) unless you get a very sympathetic agent.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 19, 2010, 09:14:51 AM
Although recently I have *heard* that even within 21 days they didn't charge. Although obviously YMMV.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: damaxer91 on July 19, 2010, 09:17:30 AM
True.  I would guess you would have to redeposit and pay the fee ($75 for non-elites) unless you get a very sympathetic agent.

Nope, there is no charge for change of Class. I've done it many times and have never been charged
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on July 19, 2010, 09:42:08 AM
And for those who don't know, this is a recent thing that CO can simply take more miles out of your account if you want to change service, as opposed to cx'ing and re-issuing. I think it started March 15th of this year.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Dan on July 19, 2010, 11:39:30 AM
And for those who don't know, this is a recent thing that CO can simply take more miles out of your account if you want to change service, as opposed to cx'ing and re-issuing. I think it started March 15th of this year.
Nice!
Haven't redeemed any CO miles this year-good to know!
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on August 06, 2010, 03:25:51 AM
Well I'm sitting now in the FCT, about to be whisked to my plane in a Porsche, after having a gourmet First Class Lufthansa Kosher meal here in the terminal. Everything so far was amazing. It's funny because the agent in the airport told me that the lounge by gate b22 is "the same thing" as the FCT, although I doubt he has ever been here before.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: chuchem on August 06, 2010, 08:41:33 AM
So eli you are back in israel. after shabbes we can expect a nice, long tripreport!
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on August 07, 2010, 08:11:25 PM
It's funny because the agent in the airport told me that the lounge by gate b22 is "the same thing" as the FCT, although I doubt he has ever been here before.
So I feel bad that I didn't check out the B22 lounge because the agents in the FCT actually told me over there is BIGGER and they have a SPA! I don't know if there is a complimentary restaurant like in the FCT (although that wouldn't interest too many of us) and the main thing is that from there you don't get driven to the plane ;)
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on August 07, 2010, 08:12:31 PM
So eli you are back in israel. after shabbes we can expect a nice, long tripreport!
Trip Report will be forthcoming. I already wrote it (plenty of time on each flight) but I need to upload pictures and set it up properly. It's a busy week but hopefully sometime in the near future.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: miles on August 08, 2010, 02:02:34 PM
Try emailing LH in TLV to order kosher meals in FRA at: tlvgpmiles@dlh.de
on Aug. 26 i send an email to doco.frankfurt@doco.com to request kosher meal and i arrived at the FCT and my kosher meal was there
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on August 08, 2010, 02:46:19 PM
So Ashton Kutcher sat in front of us on the way from FRA to TLV on Thursday. I didn't bother him the whole flight but we got a pic on the way out.

Just thought I'd mention that.
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: moe on August 08, 2010, 03:35:24 PM
on Aug. 26 i send an email to doco.frankfurt@doco.com to request kosher meal and i arrived at the FCT and my kosher meal was there
shame I didn't have that email 2 weeks ago...I tried the TLV one but they refused to get me meals because I wasnt flying out of TLV. Terible service. I tried a few other emails but ended up with no kosher meals at the lounge...oh well, not sure if its worth "disputing" on a partner airline miles ticket...
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: moish on August 08, 2010, 03:48:44 PM
i didnt realize ashton kutcher is also yeshivish
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on August 09, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
Neh, he didn't book with miles. He paid full fare. I figured it wasn't a good time to remind him he could've saved half his money...
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: moish on August 09, 2010, 01:37:06 PM
even still, someone with that kind of dough should be flying direct
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 09, 2010, 03:28:27 PM
So Ashton Kutcher sat in front of us on the way from FRA to TLV on Thursday. I didn't bother him the whole flight but we got a pic on the way out.

Just thought I'd mention that.

Cool!!!
Title: Re: First Class Lufthansa in FRA
Post by: Eli on August 11, 2010, 05:09:16 AM
I was wondering too why he flew through FRA. Maybe he was in ORD and flew ORD-FRA-TLV. He must've been in a place that didn't have direct flights.

I just googled Ashton kutcher israel and it seems he was here for a Kabbalah center birthday party. He visited the kosel and stayed at the david citadel.

It also says he was accompanied by Demi moore's daughter but I was on that plane and there was NO ONE sitting next to him. Maybe she flew coach ;)
Title: getting kosher food in fra lounge
Post by: ygift on November 03, 2010, 09:16:08 PM
dan im not sure where to put this so if it belongs ina different thread please move it over
Did anyone ever try getting kosher food for the bus lounge in frankfurt? If yes what did u do ?
I have a 4 1/4 hr layover next month and cant eat on the plane because i arrive in frankfurt early morning and need to daven first before eating
any ideas ?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on November 04, 2010, 02:15:15 AM
Food in the middle of the night you can eat, and if you dint bring your own food, you can tack the ksml-breakfast along.

Business lounges in FRA, have no kosher.
Title: kosher food in frankfurt lounge
Post by: ygift on November 17, 2010, 09:13:23 PM
can someone please help me here. there was a thread a while back regarding kosher food in the lounge at frankfurt airport but i cant seem to find it. I need the email address that the request has to be sent to
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: jack on November 17, 2010, 09:29:36 PM
mailto:doco.frankfurt@doco.com

http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1912.msg33099#msg33099
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: kivabb on February 09, 2011, 12:30:22 PM
mailto:doco.frankfurt@doco.com

http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1912.msg33099#msg33099

Any point in trying this in business class lounge or is it only in first? I have a 3 hour layover on way to Venice in a few months.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: moe on February 15, 2011, 01:23:30 PM
So I feel bad that I didn't check out the B22 lounge because the agents in the FCT actually told me over there is BIGGER and they have a SPA! I don't know if there is a complimentary restaurant like in the FCT (although that wouldn't interest too many of us) and the main thing is that from there you don't get driven to the plane ;)
Do you know if the spa in the fcl (in b22) if its complimentary, or anything in the spa costs gelt?....
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2011, 01:28:41 PM
Do you know if the spa in the fcl (in b22) if its complimentary, or anything in the spa costs gelt?....
Spas in FCLs are generally free.
Qantas has an amazing spa with free treatments in the MEL and SYD FCLs.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: moe on April 01, 2011, 12:17:59 PM
Was not free btw, so you were wrong in this case. I do remember that BA does a message complimentary, but nothing free with LH in FRA.
Spas in FCLs are generally free.
Qantas has an amazing spa with free treatments in the MEL and SYD FCLs.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on April 01, 2011, 12:26:18 PM
Was not free btw, so you were wrong in this case. I do remember that BA does a message complimentary, but nothing free with LH in FRA.
That's pretty crappy.  Never heard of anyone else charging for spa treatments in an FCL (BA, QF, and TG def. all offer free treatments).
What did they charge for a massage for a F passenger?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: moe on April 01, 2011, 12:27:42 PM
It doesnt make a diffewrence wif you were flying F or a HON member, it costed like 50 eur or maybe more...
That's pretty crappy.  Never heard of anyone else charging for spa treatments in an FCL (BA, QF, and TG def. all offer free treatments).
What did they charge for a massage for a F passenger?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: lgluck on April 02, 2011, 11:44:06 PM
And for those who don't know, this is a recent thing that CO can simply take more miles out of your account if you want to change service, as opposed to cx'ing and re-issuing. I think it started March 15th of this year.
Started a bit earlier than that, as I changed my economy CO reward ticket to business on March 9. No fees, no hassle.

I've got an 11 hour layover in FRA, should I assume my LH flight to TLV will depart from a high number B-gate?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: sawlw on June 23, 2011, 06:40:18 PM
a whole thread dedicated to  Frankfurt lounges and is there no clear answer if there are any lounges tht accept AMEX PLAT!?
so are there??
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 24, 2011, 01:21:21 AM
@sawlw: their must be some lounges that you can get it with the amex plat, however, those lounges are usually the worst one from the airport, and in FRA, after walking 45 mins just to get there, you will be fuming...  Save yourself the aggravation, and shop around in the duty free.

The massages in FRA and MUC FCL cost a whopping 1 per minute... 
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Galitzyaner on May 30, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
Can someone please explain, exactly  who  is eligible to enter this really cool sounding FCT?

Do you have to be flying A. in first class, B. on Lufthansa?  What if your flying in Biz?

Also, this ordering Kosher food to enjoy in the lounge, can someone please explain, who exactly is eligible for that?

Do you also have to be flying in A. first class B. on Lufthansa?  What if your flying in Biz?

Reading through this thread I'm really not in the clear.

Thanks in advance!

IDK if it helps, but I do have a Plat. (=priority pass)..
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2012, 08:41:54 PM
You must be flying F on Lufthansa. or be a LH Hon Circle member.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: damaxer91 on May 30, 2012, 08:54:04 PM
That's pretty crappy.  Never heard of anyone else charging for spa treatments in an FCL (BA, QF, and TG def. all offer free treatments).
What did they charge for a massage for a F passenger?

Even El Al started offering it for free: http://www.elal.co.il/ELAL/English/AllAboutYourFlight/AtTheAirport/KingDavidLounge/LoungSpa171207.htm

Maybe they are trying to compete with the other Middle Eastern carriers :)
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: aussiebochur on May 30, 2012, 08:59:45 PM
You must be flying F on Lufthansa. or be a LH Hon Circle member.
Flying F same day on LH/LX.

Arriving in LH F and continuing on LH/LX/OS/EN will also gain access.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: world2see on May 31, 2012, 01:33:54 AM
Any point in trying this in business class lounge or is it only in first? I have a 3 hour layover on way to Venice in a few months.
i flew roundtrip thru FRA,on the outbound went First,got the kosher food,on the return was only flying business,after emailing was told the kosher meals weren't available in the business class lounge,but you never know :)
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Galitzyaner on May 31, 2012, 01:44:06 AM
You must be flying F on Lufthansa. or be a LH Hon Circle member.

Also, this ordering Kosher food to enjoy in the lounge, ... who exactly is eligible for that?

Do you also have to be flying in A. first class B. on Lufthansa?  What if your flying in Biz?
Does the same answer also to the above question?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Galitzyaner on May 31, 2012, 04:15:45 PM
anybody?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: moe on June 04, 2012, 12:36:10 AM
anybody?
yes yes yes, you need to be flying LH medal and only in F not biz.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: sky121 on June 18, 2012, 11:00:18 PM
My grandfather is flying Lufthansa First class with a 4 hour stopover. I want him to be able to try out the First class lounge everyone raves about.
What's the difference between the First class lounge and the first class terminal? Is the FCL in the FCT?


He has no problem making the walk but can someone give me turn by turn simple instructions on how to get there?


TIA
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2012, 07:52:12 AM
He has no problem making the walk but can someone give me turn by turn simple instructions on how to get there?

Someone may be able to provide those directions (though it would likely depend on the arrival gate, so I'm somewhat skeptical), but I am positive any LH employee will be more than happy to direct your g'father to the FCT.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on June 19, 2012, 09:20:32 AM
but I am positive any LH employee will be more than happy to direct your g'father to the FCT.
-100
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: sky121 on June 19, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
So its the First class TERMINAL I am telling him to search for?

Guess I will tell him to try. Hopefully someone will be helpful/knowledgeable.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2012, 01:03:46 PM
-100

So you think they'd intentionally/negligently direct him to the parking lot? Simply not answer his question?

Interesting.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2012, 01:14:30 AM
So you think they'd intentionally/negligently direct him to the parking lot? Simply not answer his question?

Interesting.
The first 10 agents I spoke to denied any knowledge and even laughed hysterically when I asked where the FCT was as if I had concocted the existence of a terminal for F pax in my mind.

Finally an agent directed me how to get there and it is not at all easy to get inside, I'm still not sure of the proper way to walk inside coming from the regular terminal, it's simply not designed for connecting passengers.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2012, 10:32:36 AM
The first 10 agents I spoke to denied any knowledge and even laughed hysterically when I asked where the FCT was as if I had concocted the existence of a terminal for F pax in my mind.

I'm not even sure what to say to that. That's just embarrassingly poor customer service, especially for pax in F.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2012, 10:42:56 AM
I'm not even sure what to say to that. That's just embarrassingly poor customer service, especially for pax in F.
I guess they want you to go to the FCL, not to have to shlep out of security and find some way to access the FCT.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: myb821 on June 22, 2012, 10:59:49 AM
so I have just under a 2hr layover in fra on my way to cdg at like 5:30 in the am. we are flying biz i know super stated earlier which lounges we could access but do all the biz lounges have showers?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: sb5917 on July 02, 2012, 07:10:48 PM
Im flying business jfk tlv with a 4 hour stop in fra what's the best idea on spending the time?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
mailto:doco.frankfurt@doco.com
Reply: has to be reserved by Lufthansa, for accounting purposes.

Any other way to arrange this?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: yare on July 03, 2012, 06:15:42 AM
so i'm oming back from iceland in the summer through fra and i'm going lh f.  whats the min amount of time i need to properly enjoy the fct?  how long before i fly should i email them about a kosher meal?       as of now it's only a 90 minute stopover (but arriving and departing from terminal 1 which is supposed to be right next to the fct))
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: yare on August 16, 2012, 02:44:26 PM
Fyi: the kosher meals in the first class terminal now are  from sohar catering under rabbi menachem klein. According to the star k its not a good hashgacho
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 16, 2012, 02:47:23 PM
Food is barely edible
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: yare on August 16, 2012, 02:48:56 PM
Food is barely edible
makes me feel better, thanks
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: yare on August 17, 2012, 06:00:05 AM
Fyi: the kosher meals in the first class terminal now are  from sohar catering under rabbi menachem klein. According to the star k its not a good hashgacho
edit: on the flight as well ex fra-tlv... now sohars catering.     
Title: Re: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 17, 2012, 09:30:40 AM
Fyi: the kosher meals in the first class terminal now are  from sohar catering under rabbi menachem klein. According to the star k its not a good hashgacho
What does that mean "according to star k"?  Who'd you speak to at star k?  A rabbinical authority?  Or a secretary (who IME usually have no clue what the #@*% they're talking about)?

I'm not privy to what the Kashrus situation is in Germany, but I can tell you that Rabbi Menachem Klein is a Nadvorna Chusid, is the community Rabbi, and seems like an ehrliche yid.  Now, does that make it a reliable Hashgocho?  Not necessarily, however I'm very curious as to if indeed Star K says they're not reliable.  I wouldn't so readily dismiss the Hechsher as unreliable, IMHO it makes more sense to ask the local Shluchim in Frankfurt, as opposed to some folks sitting in Baltimore.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 20, 2012, 08:12:07 AM

Rabbi Menachem haLevi Klein appears in the beginning.
Title: Re: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: chff on December 14, 2012, 01:23:41 PM
Can I access the tower lounge in a EU I ticket?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 14, 2012, 01:37:33 PM
Can I access the tower lounge in a EU I ticket?
EU?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: chff on December 14, 2012, 03:51:13 PM
EU?
Meant on a Schengen Business award ticket
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: ItzikJones on May 09, 2015, 08:49:51 PM
I am flying on an economy award ticket via Lufthansa and have a 7 hour stop over in FRA. I don't have any specific lounge club memberships but i have a (recently canceled) AMEX Platinum card, Chase Ink and a BA Visa.....any lounge I can access with those cards to help pass the time?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: tjak on May 09, 2015, 09:03:27 PM

I am flying on an economy award ticket via Lufthansa and have a 7 hour stop over in FRA. I don't have any specific lounge club memberships but i have a (recently canceled) AMEX Platinum card, Chase Ink and a BA Visa.....any lounge I can access with those cards to help pass the time?
Unless you have the lounge club membership card that used to come with ink your out of luck.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: ItzikJones on May 09, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
Unless you have the lounge club membership card that used to come with ink your out of luck.

I do, but it expired in 14...any chance it will work? I'm flying out this week
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: DMYD on May 09, 2015, 11:17:51 PM
I do, but it expired in 14...any chance it will work? I'm flying out this week
It wont work, but you can try your luck with it.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: hr555 on May 10, 2015, 01:22:13 AM
I am flying on an economy award ticket via Lufthansa and have a 7 hour stop over in FRA. I don't have any specific lounge club memberships but i have a (recently canceled) AMEX Platinum card, Chase Ink and a BA Visa.....any lounge I can access with those cards to help pass the time?

If you have the United Club card you can get in w/ a guest. I just used it this week. They did not let a business passenger bring a guest, but did allow w/Club Card.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Hershelsdeals on July 12, 2015, 11:53:39 AM
Are there any lounges in FRA with beds? I'll be arriving with LH F and departing with LH J.

TIA
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: srf60 on July 12, 2015, 11:57:46 AM
Are there any lounges in FRA with beds? I'll be arriving with LH F and departing with LH J.

TIA
There should be in the FCT iirc.
I think Dan even once wrote about sleeping over, there.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Hershelsdeals on July 12, 2015, 12:03:03 PM
There should be in the FCT iirc.
I think Dan even once wrote about sleeping over, there.
If i arrive with LH F and depart with LH J same day, do i get FCT access?  Don't think so
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: srf60 on July 12, 2015, 12:08:45 PM
If i arrive with LH F and depart with LH J same day, do i get FCT access?  Don't think so
Oops, missed the j part, nah don't think you can get in there, though you can try asking FA on the plane for a car to take to u there.........
Some lounges there have those laying beds, not fully flat, but don't remember exactly which ones.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: YMW on July 13, 2015, 12:04:14 AM
Are there any lounges in FRA with beds? I'll be arriving with LH F and departing with LH J.

TIA

You can have this (https://flic.kr/p/v3rV3Z) at the AC Maple Leaf Lounge.

As my report here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53626.msg1196461#msg1196461).

Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: palm tights on July 13, 2015, 01:30:36 AM
Is possible to enter a frankfurt lounge that has showers for money paid or does it work there to enter with someone else being a guest?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 08, 2015, 04:32:35 PM
Ill be in Frankfurt on a stopover with Lufthansa. Is the united lounge in the same terminal that the united lounge is in? Can I call for them to provide kosher food in the lounge?

and...

I have 2 united passes, would I be able to use it in one of the lounges?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 09:30:24 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 09:32:36 AM
Ill be in Frankfurt on a stopover with Lufthansa. Is the united lounge in the same terminal that the united lounge is in? Can I call for them to provide kosher food in the lounge?

and...

I have 2 united passes, would I be able to use it in one of the lounges?

1) the question doesnt make sense 2) if its a united club you can use your lounge passes if youre not flying business/first/have status etc.

if you meant to ask if United has a lounge in T1 the answer is no. And you cannot use it (UA lounge passes) for a LH lounge.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 09:36:25 AM
1) the question doesnt make sense
Is the united lounge in the same terminal in which Lufthansa flies in to? Or are they in two separate terminals?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 09:37:55 AM
See above, I edited my post. We good?  :)
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 09:38:46 AM
Is the united lounge in the same terminal in which Lufthansa flies in to? Or are they in two separate terminals?
So how do I go about getting to a united lounge once I land with LH?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 09:40:36 AM
There are no United lounges in FRA. Period.
The only way you can use a lounge is with a lounge club card, priority pass card, status with *A, departing J or F flight etc. 
no idea if $ gets you in.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 09:41:57 AM
There are no United lounges in FRA. Period.
The only way you can use a lounge is with a lounge club card, priority pass card, status with *A, departing J or F flight etc. 
no idea if $ gets you in.
Ok. Only because I have 2 United Club one-time passes. But guess that doesnt help me get into a LH lounge. Maybe I can find a nice person to bring me in as a guest
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 09:44:01 AM
Ok. Only because I have 2 United Club one-time passes. But guess that doesnt help me get into a LH lounge. Maybe I can find a nice person to bring me in as a guest

lounge club lets the main holder bring 2 guests in... or if its a closed ink card then its virtually unlimited.. Good luck getting a favor in FRA.
Also, I would not recommend you go to the lounge outside of security.. dont remember the name offhand. its an unnecessary PITA to come back in.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 09:45:39 AM
lounge club lets the main holder bring 2 guests in... or if its a closed ink card then its virtually unlimited.. Good luck getting a favor in FRA.
Also, I would not recommend you go to the lounge outside of security.. dont remember the name offhand. its an unnecessary PITA to come back in.
Does the Ink card have to be in the passengers name or can it be a family members?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 09:46:48 AM
Does the Ink card have to be in the passengers name or can it be a family members?

depends if they look & match up the lounge card to the boarding pass. YMMV. Usually in these countries where they are straight as a broomstick they do check. In the US where some desk check in employees are lazy they dont look.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 09:57:18 AM
depends if they look & match up the lounge card to the boarding pass. YMMV. Usually in these countries where they are straight as a broomstick they do check. In the US where some desk check in employees are lazy they dont look.
Ok. So let me see if I can be added as an AU to family members account. Do you know LH number to call for kosher food in their lounge?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 10:08:24 AM
Ok. So let me see if I can be added as an AU to family members account. Do you know LH number to call for kosher food in their lounge?

The lounge club with chase ink partnership is over. too late now.. only if you ordered the card a few months ago is it still valid..
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 10:10:56 AM
The lounge club with chase ink partnership is over. too late now.. only if you ordered the card a few months ago is it still valid..
Even if the account holder had card for a few years?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 10:12:19 AM
Even if the account holder had card for a few years?

he needs to have the lounge card in his hand by now. otherwise its too late
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 10:26:31 AM
he needs to have the lounge card in his hand by now. otherwise its too late
Got it. Thanks.

Where would I find out how to purchase an entrance to the lounge in advance?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 10:34:48 AM
Got it. Thanks.

Where would I find out how to purchase an entrance to the lounge in advance?

google?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 09, 2015, 10:43:48 AM
google?
Done. Thanks for all your help! Greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: solls108 on September 16, 2015, 09:06:32 PM
lounge club lets the main holder bring 2 guests in... or if its a closed ink card then its virtually unlimited.. Good luck getting a favor in FRA.
Also, I would not recommend you go to the lounge outside of security.. dont remember the name offhand. its an unnecessary PITA to come back in.
so I have the one time United passes. Currently in jfk and Lufthansa said that they will not allow a united one time pass. I called Lufthansa prior to my flight and they said that I can use a United pass. I have a stopover in Germany. How can I get them to accept my United one time pass at the lounge in Germany?
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: @Yehuda on September 16, 2015, 09:41:56 PM
so I have the one time United passes. Currently in jfk and Lufthansa said that they will not allow a united one time pass. I called Lufthansa prior to my flight and they said that I can use a United pass. I have a stopover in Germany. How can I get them to accept my United one time pass at the lounge in Germany?
You can only use UA passes in UA lounges, not partner lounges.
Title: Re: Frankfurt lounges
Post by: MEIR613 on September 16, 2015, 11:03:04 PM
If i arrive with LH F and depart with LH J same day, do i get FCT access?  Don't think so
Yes, you would get FCT access if you are arriving on LH F.