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Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: regalhome on October 17, 2012, 08:56:53 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Bluebird1/

You can pay bills online with a preloaded(via cc) at no fee.
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Ergel on October 17, 2012, 09:08:15 AM
https://bluebird.com/

You can pay bills online with a preloaded(via cc) at no fee.
You sure you can add money with cc?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 17, 2012, 09:11:29 AM
https://bluebird.com/

You can pay bills online with a preloaded(via cc) at no fee.

Are you saying like an electric & Gas bills.
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: regalhome on October 17, 2012, 09:15:40 AM
You sure you can add money with cc?
People have called up and supposedly you can go to a walmart and reload with a cc.

Are you saying like an electric & Gas bills.
Yes
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 17, 2012, 09:19:18 AM
What about car insurance?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 17, 2012, 09:21:36 AM
The question is basically when it's paying for a bill for you, does the company that your paying the bill to need to accept account numbers or can bluebird send out a physical paper check for you?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: regalhome on October 17, 2012, 09:24:27 AM
The question is basically when it's paying for a bill for you, does the company that your paying the bill to need to accept account numbers or can bluebird send out a physical paper check for you?
I applied for a card, and will test it when it comes.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on October 17, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
A few early reports came in yesterday that Walmart's register accepted cash or debit to initially load them but credit wouldn't work, so YMMV.
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on October 17, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
People have called up and supposedly you can go to a walmart and reload with a cc.
Yes
Since when do we believe reps?

At this points it is unknown whether or not walmart will accept cc, although an alternative would be to buy vanilla reloads with a cc. . .
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 17, 2012, 09:28:08 AM
A few early reports came in yesterday that Walmart's register accepted cash or debit to initially load them but credit wouldn't work, so YMMV.

There's your answer, unless they change it, this is not going to solve one's problem with wanting to pay bills with a credit card that you normally can't.

Since when do we believe reps?

At this points it is unknown whether or not walmart will accept cc, although an alternative would be to buy vanilla reloads with a cc. . .

Is there any fees to buy vanilla reloads? & do you know for sure that Bluebird will accept vanilla reloads?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 17, 2012, 09:48:58 AM
Yes and yes.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 17, 2012, 09:50:46 AM
Yes and yes.

So then what's the point of buying vanilla reloads if there is fees? Your back to square 1.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 17, 2012, 09:53:56 AM
So then what's the point of buying vanilla reloads if there is fees? Your back to square 1.

You have much to learn, young Padawan :)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 17, 2012, 09:56:37 AM
You have much to learn, young Padawan :)

I'm sorry, I guess I do. But from what I understand of this, this option doesn't make much sense to me. Sorry for my lack of knowledge.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 17, 2012, 09:58:18 AM
No apologies necessary. Just read and catch up! :)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: regalhome on October 17, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
Yes and yes.
Actually I don`t think vanilla has a fee, except at ATM`s
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 17, 2012, 10:07:55 AM
Actually I don`t think vanilla has a fee, except at ATM`s

Oh okay now that would make a lot more sense to understand the thinking of some people. Thanks a lot for that key piece of advice that was throwing me all off because I didn't understand the situation properly. Now thanks to you, it's a lot more clearer to me. Thanks.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on October 17, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
Actually I don`t think vanilla has a fee, except at ATM`s
???
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 17, 2012, 10:28:45 AM
???

+1

Vanilla reloads most certainly do have a ~$4 fee.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: regalhome on October 17, 2012, 11:50:41 AM
+1

Vanilla reloads most certainly do have a ~$4 fee.
I stand corrected you are right there is a $4 fee
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on October 17, 2012, 11:54:17 AM
So cc --> vanilla (preferrably ink bold at office depot or a new card if you need to clear a spend hurdle)  --> load bluebird --> cash out ATM (no fee if direct deposit to blue bird)

is that right?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on October 17, 2012, 12:15:22 PM
So cc --> vanilla (preferrably ink bold at office depot or a new card if you need to clear a spend hurdle)  --> load bluebird --> cash out ATM (no fee if direct deposit to blue bird)

is that right?

FWIW:

http://www.retailwire.com/news-article/16341/walmart-banks-on-bluebird-to-reach-the-unbanked

In the middle of this link is a chart which says $2 to load with a debit card. No option to load with a credit card provided.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 17, 2012, 12:46:32 PM
FWIW:

http://www.retailwire.com/news-article/16341/walmart-banks-on-bluebird-to-reach-the-unbanked

In the middle of this link is a chart which says $2 to load with a debit card. No option to load with a credit card provided.

Not much.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 17, 2012, 03:25:33 PM
This is better talked about via PM. I am going to take a wild ass guess and say no load by a CC, period. But on the other hand I am a n00b at this.  ;D
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Galitzyaner on October 18, 2012, 12:32:52 AM
This is better talked about via PM. I am going to take a wild ass guess and say no load by a CC, period. But on the other hand I am a n00b at this.  ;D
So you're the culprit trying to keep all the cool tactics under the covers? ;)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on October 18, 2012, 09:13:45 AM
???

What about using Walmart gift cards to reload or purchase? Doesnt Walmart treat those like cash and cant you buy those with a CC?

Would that work?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 23, 2012, 02:04:52 AM
Is their any other cards that you can load the bluebird card with besides the vanilla reload card?

Does anyone know if you can use a office depot gift card to load the vanilla reload card?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 02:19:46 AM
What about using Walmart gift cards to reload or purchase? Doesnt Walmart treat those like cash and cant you buy those with a CC?

Would that work?
You need a PIN for it to work.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moto on October 23, 2012, 03:31:52 AM
+1
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aj26 on October 23, 2012, 06:10:16 AM
if you reload using suntrust delta card, do you get points for the trnsaction?
What are the limits?
Can you "pay a bill" to yourself?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2012, 08:55:34 AM
if you reload using suntrust delta card, do you get points for the trnsaction?
What are the limits?
Can you "pay a bill" to yourself?

It seems so.
GIYF.
If you want to get shut down.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: bubbles on October 23, 2012, 09:21:28 AM
Anywhere to pick up the reloads besides OD?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 09:24:55 AM
Anywhere to pick up the reloads besides OD?
Uncomfirmed reports of some Walgreens and CVS. Comfirmed reports of local gas stations.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on October 23, 2012, 09:29:10 AM
Anywhere to pick up the reloads besides OD?

I've found them at 7-11 (and CC was accepted).
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 09:30:07 AM
I've found them at 7-11 (and CC was accepted).
Nice find!!!
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on October 23, 2012, 09:53:32 AM
Uncomfirmed reports of some Walgreens and CVS. Comfirmed reports of local gas stations.

Uncomfirmed reports of some Walgreens and CVS. Comfirmed reports of local gas stations.

I know its great that you can use CC there, but if I am not mistaken, you wont get the 5x UR for using the ink Bold. But still a great option if you can use CC!
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2012, 09:57:01 AM
I know its great that you can use CC there, but if I am not mistaken, you wont get the 5x UR for using the ink Bold. But still a great option if you can use CC!

There are other credit cards with better ppd at drugstores etc
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on October 23, 2012, 09:59:41 AM
There are other credit cards with better ppd at drugstores etc

such as?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2012, 10:02:15 AM
such as?

I didn't mean better than 5ppd I meant better than 1ppd.

Title: Re: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on October 23, 2012, 10:03:10 AM
I didn't mean better than 5ppd I meant better than 1ppd.

haha I know. I was aksing what CC would be best at drug stores?

Also, the Ink Bold is 2x at gas stations, so if you can find them at those, then that isnt a bad otpion.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Steven on October 23, 2012, 10:10:38 AM
what about buying with 7-11, cvs gcs? if you can get gcs at a discount that would be better than straight up cc..
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 23, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
Just confirmed that a Office Depot store in NYC DOES have Vanilla Reload Cards. I don't if that's every OD NYC. But I called one.

Also I just called up a CVS store in NYC & they said that they do carry it but I must purchase it or to reload it ONLY in cash or debit.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
I know its great that you can use CC there, but if I am not mistaken, you wont get the 5x UR for using the ink Bold. But still a great option if you can use CC!
...but some of us have 5 & 10% cards for G/G/D.  ;)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on October 23, 2012, 10:18:05 AM
...but some of us have 5 & 10% cards for G/G/D.  ;)

what does G/G/D Stand for?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2012, 10:18:26 AM
gas/groceries/drugs
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 10:18:38 AM
Just confirmed that the...
I would delete this post unless you want to see them wiped out in a matter of minutes.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fish Tank on October 23, 2012, 10:26:51 AM
Just confirmed that the Manhattan Office Depot DOES have Vanilla Reload Cards.
Are you sure? Dan wrote on the main site that the office depots in NYC don't carry tgem. .   
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Steven on October 23, 2012, 10:27:05 AM
I would delete this post unless you want to see them wiped out in a matter of minutes.
you suggesting a DDF DO?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on October 23, 2012, 10:27:54 AM
i called yesterday they told me they didnt have
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 10:28:35 AM
you suggesting a DDF DO?
If I lived in NY they would be gone before you could blink.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 23, 2012, 10:29:14 AM
...but some of us have 5 & 10% cards for G/G/D.  ;)

How do get a 10% card for that stuff? Which card?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 10:31:28 AM
How do get a 10% card for that stuff? Which card?
The next time CharterOne/Citizens card is posted here you jump on it.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2012, 10:36:45 AM
Are you sure? Dan wrote on the main site that the office depots in NYC don't carry tgem. .

Gonna check in an hour :)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yitz on October 23, 2012, 10:37:54 AM
What is the nearest OD to NYC that you could puechase vanila
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yitz on October 23, 2012, 10:39:16 AM
Gonna check in an hour :)
please leave 1 for me if they have
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 10:39:53 AM
Gonna check in an hour :)
Maybe call first. They might be confusing vanilla GC’s with vanilla reloads. I hate to be working at this store.  ;D
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fish Tank on October 23, 2012, 10:42:48 AM
Gonna check in an hour :)
Let us know  :)

I live in NJ. Are these even sold in NJ? I haven't found them anywhere.  . . ?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
Let us know  :)
Maybe post it at FT also.  ::)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on October 23, 2012, 10:47:42 AM
How do get a 10% card for that stuff? Which card?
It has no signup bonus,  so not worth it for most of us.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2012, 10:48:59 AM
Maybe call first. They might be confusing vanilla GC’s with vanilla reloads. I hate to be working at this store.  ;D

Nah, no reason to call. I'll just pop my head in.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2012, 12:24:22 PM
Having a hard time finding a store that has Vanilla reloads that will let me pay with CC.  It's getting harder and harder.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: RJ898 on October 23, 2012, 12:33:22 PM
I don't need an OD. I need to meet a 10k threshold on an AMEX gold.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: cozmohoot on October 23, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
what about using this to pay a mortgage with a cc? even if its being bought in 7-11 the UR points will pay itself off...
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on October 23, 2012, 05:25:40 PM
FWIW:

http://www.retailwire.com/news-article/16341/walmart-banks-on-bluebird-to-reach-the-unbanked

In the middle of this link is a chart which says $2 to load with a debit card. No option to load with a credit card provided.

According to link I posted earlier there is a $2 fee every time to load from a debit card. In the comment of the main site Dan said it doesn't apply if you do it in a Walmart. What about the maximum load of $100 per day (below and link)? Does that also not apply if you do it Walmart?

https://bluebird.com/legal/#c-debit-card
A fee, as provided in Section 15, will be charged by us each time you add funds to the Account from your Debit Card and will be assessed against the Available Funds in your Account.
The aggregate amount of funds you may add to the Account from your Debit Card(s) may not exceed $100 per day and $1,000 per month, subject to additional limits in circumstances in which we have not verified all of the identity and other personal information you have provided us.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ez1985 on October 23, 2012, 05:27:04 PM
So basically, If I use this and load it with a Chase Ink to pay my amex bill and then reload it with my amex card to pay my chase bill and so on and so forth I can really get unlimited points.  Is this dangerous?  Is it even legal?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
So basically, If I use this and load it with a Chase Ink to pay my amex bill and then reload it with my amex card to pay my chase bill and so on and so forth I can really get unlimited points.  Is this dangerous

Yes.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 05:48:43 PM
So basically, If I use this and load it with a Chase Ink to pay my amex bill and then reload it with my amex card to pay my chase bill and so on and so forth I can really get unlimited points.  Is this dangerous?  Is it even legal?
You can't load with a CC.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on October 23, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
Answer to both of my previous questions...

Vanilla reload counts as funding from cash, not as funding from debit card.

https://bluebird.com/legal/#d-Cash-Funding

No $2 fee and the max is $1,000 per day.

Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2012, 06:06:29 PM
Answer to both of my previous questions...

Vanilla reload counts as funding from cash, not as funding from debit card.

https://bluebird.com/legal/#d-Cash-Funding

No $2 fee and the max is $1,000 per day.

Nice. I just hope they don't change any t & c's before my card arrives.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mordy44 on October 23, 2012, 06:27:18 PM
Found stores in NYC that carry the Vanilla Reload card but none would accept a credit card. Why would Office depot take a cc?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2012, 06:28:42 PM
Found stores in NYC that carry the Vanilla Reload card but none would accept a credit card. Why would Office depot take a cc?

Took me 3 tries until I found one that did.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mordy44 on October 23, 2012, 06:31:47 PM
3 different office depots?
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2012, 06:32:55 PM
3 different office depots?

Yeah. I'm not in NY. But just stating.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mordy44 on October 23, 2012, 06:35:52 PM
sigh....... any1 in NY have any luck?   :'(
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on October 23, 2012, 06:37:04 PM
Yeah. I'm not in NY. But just stating.
What state are you in? I plan on trying an office depot in South FL tom morn
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: RJ898 on October 23, 2012, 06:51:22 PM
Need a place in NY (near CH) that takes CC...
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on October 23, 2012, 06:53:02 PM
What state are you in? I plan on trying an office depot in South FL tom morn

DO texas?
 :)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 07:04:17 PM
I can’t tell the difference between this thread and the FT thread. That is not a good sign.  :-[
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: kangaroo on October 23, 2012, 07:15:18 PM
doesnt walgreens sell these?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on October 23, 2012, 07:18:33 PM
I can’t tell the difference between this thread and the FT thread. That is not a good sign.  :-[

At least I don't have to get annoyed by cardinal talk in this thread
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: joesmoe on October 23, 2012, 07:27:17 PM
doesnt walgreens sell these?

Yes, I'm pretty sure they do.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mordy44 on October 23, 2012, 07:29:53 PM
Family Dollar sells em, but they don't allow cc
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: kangaroo on October 23, 2012, 07:29:58 PM
so then why is everyone crying about OD? ok you wont get the bonus points from chase, but youll still get  free spending to rack up regular points.


Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mordy44 on October 23, 2012, 07:32:40 PM
Quote
so then why is everyone crying about OD? ok you wont get the bonus points from chase, but youll still get  free spending to rack up regular points


Because we dont have reports of other places that allow loading via cc (except 1 7-11)
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 23, 2012, 07:42:53 PM
At least I don't have to get annoyed by cardinal talk in this thread
Should I send ADK a PM at FT? I am sure he would not mind coming over here.  :)
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on October 24, 2012, 03:40:30 AM
doesnt walgreens sell these?
Just saw them today at Walmart.
I didn't try buying them. But I'll go by there maybe later and see if they let with cc
Title: Re: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 24, 2012, 03:44:57 AM
Just saw them today at Walmart.
I didn't try buying them. But I'll go by there maybe later and see if they let with cc
Do you mean the Bluebird or Vanilla Reloads?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yitz on October 24, 2012, 05:24:48 AM
Do you mean the Bluebird or Vanilla Reloads?
Bluebird you get online. Dan has a link.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ez1985 on October 24, 2012, 09:57:10 AM
can you use a bluebird card for SBS?
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 24, 2012, 10:41:06 AM
They had vanilla reloads at my local Walgreens. They wouldn't allow using a CC. She tried to let me anyways but it would only accept the charge for the fee from my CC and not the load amount.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 24, 2012, 11:01:49 AM
Bluebird you get online. Dan has a link.
You can get the temp card at WM but that is not what I asked.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 24, 2012, 11:02:30 AM
They had vanilla reloads at my local Walgreens. They wouldn't allow using a CC. She tried to let me anyways but it would only accept the charge for the fee from my CC and not the load amount.
Ouch, that is not good.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: gpapadop on October 24, 2012, 11:41:51 AM
I just want to state that the Cardinals are indeed watching :D
Title: Amex Bluebird
Post by: dd321 on October 24, 2012, 03:44:46 PM
Anyone sign up? www.bluebird.com not understanding what it is
Title: Re: Amex Bluebird
Post by: ez1985 on October 24, 2012, 03:48:46 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.0
Title: Re: Amex Bluebird
Post by: robi on October 24, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
Sounds like Chase liquid, just better
Title: Re: Amex Bluebird
Post by: JEWDA on October 24, 2012, 03:48:59 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.0
Title: Re: Amex Bluebird
Post by: sky121 on October 24, 2012, 03:49:20 PM
Anyone sign up? www.bluebird.com not understanding what it is

It's basically an online bank account.
And the card is basically a debit card.

That's the short answer.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on October 24, 2012, 03:50:39 PM
Was just at an  OD in South FL had none in stock. Only had the prepaid ones, Not the reloads. Will check another OD tom morn.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2012, 05:53:39 PM
I just want to state that the Cardinals are indeed watching :D
You can't fool me.  They were all eliminated by some giants earlier this week.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 24, 2012, 06:28:03 PM
You can't fool me.  They were all eliminated by some giants earlier this week.
Thats why they are here, nothing else to do.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on October 24, 2012, 06:55:59 PM
I went to cvs and they were sold out  :(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 24, 2012, 07:17:48 PM
I went to cvs and they were sold out  :(
I am shocked and don't know what to say.  ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 24, 2012, 07:29:45 PM
I haven't seen any at CVS in a while. Do they let you pay with CC?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on October 24, 2012, 07:36:05 PM
I haven't seen any at CVS in a while. Do they let you pay with CC?
it seemed like they do,only dont know forsure
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on October 24, 2012, 07:39:47 PM
it seemed like they do,only dont know forsure

What made it seem like they do?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 24, 2012, 07:46:53 PM
What made it seem like they do?
They are sold out might be a good indication.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on October 24, 2012, 09:40:18 PM
Is there a difference in the Vanilla cards? Prepaid vs. Reload?

I just bought 2 Vanilla cards yesterday at an out-of-town,
local Office Depot -- and they say Prepaid Reload on them.

I ordered my Bluebird card. It will come soon, but did I buy 2 $500's of the right Vanilla?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on October 24, 2012, 10:14:07 PM
Is there a difference in the Vanilla cards? Prepaid vs. Reload?

I just bought 2 Vanilla cards yesterday at an out-of-town,
local Office Depot -- and they say Prepaid Reload on them.

I ordered my Bluebird card. It will come soon, but did I buy 2 $500's of the right Vanilla?
yes
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on October 24, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
Okay -- Thanks - I saw prepaid on the DDF as diff than reload and I wasn't so sure...


When I went last night I asked the guy at the register about them.
(was debating about one card or two..)
He said that he didn't know much about them (the Vanilla Reloads)
but he said the people were buying $2500 - $3500 of them at a time!

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 24, 2012, 10:54:17 PM
Was just at an  OD in South FL had none in stock. Only had the prepaid ones, Not the reloads. Will check another OD tom morn.

This company can't keep up with demand :D

I'm trying to figure out who's taking the loss, OD, Vanilla, Amex, or all three?...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 24, 2012, 11:17:34 PM
D. None.

Well, not exactly. OD takes a small loss, but Chase takes the big hit.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: kangaroo on October 24, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
now what happens if bluebird shuts down the offer to load with cards, or worse, stops the refunds and just credits back the card. ............now everyone is stuck with $1000's worth of vanilla cards....not worth the risk imo
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2012, 11:53:42 PM

but he said the people were buying $2500 - $3500 of them at a time!
The scary part here is that so many people are playing theses games.

The entire cc sign-up etc insanity can only last as long as we stay a small, insubstantial group. If everyone abused everything, they'd have to clamp down.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: meshugener on October 24, 2012, 11:56:46 PM
And that's what they're actually doing...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on October 25, 2012, 12:00:46 AM
The scary part here is that so many people are playing theses games.

The entire cc sign-up etc insanity can only last as long as we stay a small, insubstantial group. If everyone abused everything, they'd have to clamp down.
+1. I've been buying vanilla reload cards at my local Walgreens for about 2 years, first time they sold out was today
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 25, 2012, 12:02:21 AM
One (or more) of the following things will happen in the near future:

1) Chase will lower IB bonus from 5x to something < 5x.
2) Chase will lower the IB 5x bonus cap from $50,000 to something < $50,000.
3) Chase will increase the frequency and number of A/As for abuse of perks.
4) AmEx will prohibit loading via VRs.
5) Point-earning debit cards will do one or more of numbers 1-3.
6) OD will stop carrying VRs and/or institute a system-wide ban on purchasing VRs with CC.

Count on it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 25, 2012, 12:41:53 AM
I'm trying to figure out who's taking the loss, OD, Vanilla, Amex, or all three?...
OD is taking a big hit.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 25, 2012, 12:43:10 AM
One (or more) of the following things will happen in the near future:

1) Chase will lower IB bonus from 5x to something < 5x.
2) Chase will lower the IB 5x bonus cap from $50,000 to something < $50,000.
3) Chase will increase the frequency and number of A/As for abuse of perks.
4) AmEx will prohibit loading via VRs.
5) Point-earning debit cards will do one or more of numbers 1-3.
6) OD will stop carrying VRs and/or institute a system-wide ban on purchasing VRs with CC.

Count on it.
They can do all six and it still will not stop everyone. There is more to this than meets the eye.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on October 25, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
OD is taking a big hit.

Pales im comparison to Chase.

They can do all six and it still will not stop everyone. There is more to this than meets the eye.

Of course not. Won't stop me.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 25, 2012, 12:48:48 AM
They can do all six and it still will not stop everyone. There is more to this than meets the eye.

I'm sure you too wouldn't be too happy if all six changes took place tonight. Disagree?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 25, 2012, 12:52:28 AM
I'm sure you too wouldn't be too happy if all six changes took place tonight. Disagree?
I would be very happy if the first 5 happened NOW!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 25, 2012, 12:53:15 AM
I would be very happy if the first 5 happened NOW!!!

Haha, how selfish of you :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 25, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
Haha, how selfish of you :P
You are 100% correct.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on October 25, 2012, 01:18:33 AM
Not nice but I do understand
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 25, 2012, 01:33:22 AM
Not nice but I do understand
I am not here to be nice, I am here to make money.  :P

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on October 25, 2012, 01:34:20 AM
I am not here to be nice, I am here to make money.  :P
which is why I said I understand
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 25, 2012, 01:40:09 AM
which is why I said I understand
I was hoping you would disagree with the first part of what I said.  :'(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on October 25, 2012, 10:05:08 AM
It says they will notify about my application. Anyone else get this?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: miles on October 25, 2012, 10:37:41 AM
Where van I get VR in Brooklyn
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on October 25, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
Where van I get VR in Brooklyn

Was just wondering same thing!! Where can i get a VR in brooklyn or nyc? Possible at all?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on October 25, 2012, 12:41:20 PM
Was just wondering same thing!! Where can i get a VR in brooklyn or nyc? Possible at all?
They're probably all gone by now anyway.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 25, 2012, 12:43:21 PM
Was just wondering same thing!! Where can i get a VR in brooklyn or nyc? Possible at all?

I was at a family dollar in Queens yesterday & I saw that they had them there.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on October 25, 2012, 12:46:22 PM
I was at a family dollar in Queens yesterday & I saw that they had them there.
pay with cc?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 25, 2012, 12:50:17 PM
pay with cc?

I didn't buy one & I forgot to ask them.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aj26 on October 25, 2012, 01:33:17 PM
I've tried at family dollar.
The machine doesn't let you pay with cc or a visa gc (even though it says debit on the front)
Also tried at walgreens
first- cashier said cash only- wouldn't budge
second- cashier scanned card and computer said cash only.
Went to several 7-11. No one had
I think OD is the only place to get with a cc and that will be over soon enough
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on October 25, 2012, 10:22:47 PM
Anyone know if when opening up a Bluebird, does the Serve account have to be closed, or just the card? I have a few k sitting in it, and enjoy the monthly spend I have on it.

Also, any thoughts on whether the OD in Israel carries them? Worth driving out to Ashkelon? :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: JEWDA on October 25, 2012, 11:23:23 PM


Also, any thoughts on whether the OD in Israel carries them? Worth driving out to Ashkelon? :)
I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on October 26, 2012, 01:58:29 AM
Anyone know if when opening up a Bluebird, does the Serve account have to be closed, or just the card? I have a few k sitting in it, and enjoy the monthly spend I have on it.

This is an exact quotes from an answer that Dan answered someone who asked the same question in the comments on the home page "You need to first close your serve account. ".


Also I have question. I know the limit is $500 but after I load the Blue Bird account with the money from my Vanilla Reload card, Do I have to buy a new VR card to add more money onto the VR card can I use my old VR card since it's empty after I transferred the money to my BB account already?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2012, 02:28:33 AM
The scary part here is that so many people are playing theses games.

The entire cc sign-up etc insanity can only last as long as we stay a small, insubstantial group. If everyone abused everything, they'd have to clamp down.

He's a registered DDF'er as well :)

I do think we are still insubstantial compared to the entire US card market, though growing no doubt.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Mocha on October 26, 2012, 07:53:44 AM
I do think we are still insubstantial compared to the entire US card market, though growing no doubt.
Apparently not so insubstantial if the game is basically over with citi and Amex (and I'm sure chase isn't too far behind).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on October 26, 2012, 08:45:54 AM
This is an exact quotes from an answer that Dan answered someone who asked the same question in the comments on the home page "You need to first close your serve account. ".


Thanks. I usually try to avoid reading the comments down there since they give me migraines. :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yeki89 on October 26, 2012, 11:08:09 AM
The scary part here is that so many people are playing theses games.

The entire cc sign-up etc insanity can only last as long as we stay a small, insubstantial group. If everyone abused everything, they'd have to clamp down.
my signature  ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on October 26, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
I really think we did get substantial enough for AMEX to clamp down as they did.  If you think about just hundreds of people churning a few thou$and in bonuses each year it is only a few hundred thousand dollar loss for AMEX.   But if you take thousands of people x thousands in bonuses = losses in the millions.  The bean counters start to notice that.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on October 26, 2012, 03:23:42 PM
Bluebird just came out...

What Amex clamp down are you referring to?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sawlw on October 27, 2012, 02:42:46 PM
Bluebird just came out...

What Amex clamp down are you referring to?
prob signup bonuses
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on October 27, 2012, 07:21:13 PM
I really think we did get substantial enough for AMEX to clamp down as they did.  If you think about just hundreds of people churning a few thou$and in bonuses each year it is only a few hundred thousand dollar loss for AMEX.   But if you take thousands of people x thousands in bonuses = losses in the millions.  The bean counters start to notice that.

I remember Amex started clamping down after the matching deals started showing up on Slick Deals, there were hundreds of thousands of views on those threads ugh.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 27, 2012, 10:27:53 PM
Amex also made it harder to order GC's via BC when they found out what was going. They stop the Mint form taking Amex GC's too.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on October 30, 2012, 09:28:15 PM
Was just at an  OD in South FL had none in stock. Only had the prepaid ones, Not the reloads. Will check another OD tom morn.

Just got around to checking another OD, had plenty in stock. got one and three rolls of tape I needed anyways, cashier didn't say a word about using a credit card.

Either the rush is over or they restocked.
Loaded onto BB card without a glitch.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on October 30, 2012, 09:47:03 PM
Anyone think The bluebird will week on sbs?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 31, 2012, 01:16:41 AM
Anyone think The bluebird will week on sbs?
Based on other Amex prepaids, NO.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: Ez on October 31, 2012, 01:16:54 AM
I doubt, previously prepaid cards etc. didn't work for sbs
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 31, 2012, 02:12:39 AM
Anyone think The bluebird will week on sbs?

It didn't work on any Amex prepaids last year, can't see why this one would be different.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on October 31, 2012, 02:19:54 AM
It didn't work on any Amex prepaids last year, can't see why this one would be different.
its a new card, who really knows.... It might be like all other ptepaids, but its worth a shot imo
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on October 31, 2012, 02:37:55 AM
its a new card, who really knows.... It might be like all other ptepaids, but its worth a shot imo

All I'm saying is, I wouldn't bank on it. It's a longshot IMHO.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 31, 2012, 03:08:48 AM
Just try and register the card and you will find out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on October 31, 2012, 06:08:26 PM
How does the check thing work? Can you pay rent online, for instance, with a bluebird checking number?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on October 31, 2012, 07:10:10 PM
I do not use it but would guess just like any other bill pay. If the biller is not in ther system they will just mail them a check.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on October 31, 2012, 08:23:20 PM
I do not use it but would guess just like any other bill pay. If the biller is not in ther system they will just mail them a check.
When you choose set up direct deposit option they give you an account number and a routing number for the paycheck to be deposited to. Can I use that bank info to just pay a rent bill as if I would be using my own check?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 01, 2012, 02:42:22 AM
When you choose set up direct deposit option they give you an account number and a routing number for the paycheck to be deposited to. Can I use that bank info to just pay a rent bill as if I would be using my own check?
This is a trick used on prepaid cards to drain money out. My guess it will not work with Amex and if it does you could get your account shut down.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 01, 2012, 07:53:19 AM
This is a trick used on prepaid cards to drain money out. My guess it will not work with Amex and if it does you could get your account shut down.

I assume you're referring to reloadable prepaid cards.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 01, 2012, 09:31:55 AM
I assume you're referring to reloadable prepaid cards.
Correct, like Bluebird.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 01, 2012, 10:27:44 AM
This is a trick used on prepaid cards to drain money out. My guess it will not work with Amex and if it does you could get your account shut down.
with Amex cc? Amex prepaid?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on November 01, 2012, 11:07:15 AM
with Amex cc? Amex prepaid?
I think he is referring to prepaid.

@ HelpMe, why do you assume Amex will be different?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 01, 2012, 11:31:13 AM
@ HelpMe, why do you assume Amex will be different?
I did not assume I am guessing.  :) Based on other Amex prepaids.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 01, 2012, 12:05:02 PM
Correct, like Bluebird.
Youve got me confused. Are you saying you think Bluebird will shut you down for doing this?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 01, 2012, 12:46:10 PM
Youve got me confused. Are you saying you think Bluebird will shut you down for doing this?

The other prepaids out there have shut people down for excessive billpay or ACH because a) they make no money off those transactions and b) it can look suspicious.   

Maybe AMEX as a big company wanting to get this product out there will be more tolerant of a), unlike the smaller prepaid companies whose business is more sensitive to unprofitable customers.    Heck, Amazon still allows free CC payments after years of exploitation, whereas smaller payment services always put a stop to it quickly.  But I am being optimistic.  8) 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 02, 2012, 03:56:05 AM
When you choose set up direct deposit option they give you an account number and a routing number for the paycheck to be deposited to. Can I use that bank info to just pay a rent bill as if I would be using my own check?
Base on what others have tried, no.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 02, 2012, 04:20:54 AM
Is the only place OD for cc use? I went to OD they were all sold out at 2 locations and walgreens had but wouldn't take credit and 7-11 didn't have
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 02, 2012, 04:33:16 AM
Is the only place OD for cc use? I went to OD they were all sold out at 2 locations and walgreens had but wouldn't take credit and 7-11 didn't have
OD is the only place that takes CC with no problem. Everwhere else it is just hit or miss and sometimes even at the same store on the same day.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 02, 2012, 11:51:55 AM
Can I pay someone else's CC from my Bluebird account?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 02, 2012, 12:00:05 PM
Can I pay someone else's CC from my Bluebird account?

You can pay "ANYONE."
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 02, 2012, 12:03:34 PM
You can pay "ANYONE."

Thanks. So instead of adding it as a Chase card I should add it as a new person and just put in their account number? Will it still just send them a check? ?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 02, 2012, 12:24:33 PM
Thanks. So instead of adding it as a Chase card I should add it as a new person and just put in their account number? Will it still just send them a check? ?

No, I'd still send to Chase, just put his name and cc in.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 02, 2012, 12:27:25 PM
No, I'd still send to Chase, just put his name and cc in.

Got it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 02, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
Can I pay someone else's CC from my Bluebird account?
Yes but this has caused red flags for other reloadable perpaid cards.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 02, 2012, 05:32:42 PM
Yes but this has caused red flags for other reloadable perpaid cards.

Hmm... ok.. not worth doing then. Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sruly101 on November 03, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
Anyone had this? tried signing up got this email:

Thank you for signing up for Bluebird! We are reviewing your request and will send you an e-mail to provide an update on your Bluebird Account status.

few hours later got this email:

Thank you for your recent registration for a Bluebird Account.

Unfortunately we are not able to validate your registration information at this time. In order for us to process your registration, please contact us at 1-866-340-2773 during the following business hours: Monday - Saturday, 6:00AM-6:00PM (MST).

Please be sure to call us within 2 weeks to ensure your registration is not cancelled.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 03, 2012, 08:52:01 PM
Anyone had this? tried signing up got this email:

Thank you for signing up for Bluebird! We are reviewing your request and will send you an e-mail to provide an update on your Bluebird Account status.

few hours later got this email:

Thank you for your recent registration for a Bluebird Account.

Unfortunately we are not able to validate your registration information at this time. In order for us to process your registration, please contact us at 1-866-340-2773 during the following business hours: Monday - Saturday, 6:00AM-6:00PM (MST).

Please be sure to call us within 2 weeks to ensure your registration is not cancelled.

Maybe your social wasn't right?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 03, 2012, 09:01:04 PM
Anyone had this? tried signing up got this email:
It could be that a piece on the info they use to verify your identity did not match up. Just give them a call.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on November 03, 2012, 09:29:39 PM
Anyone had this? tried signing up got this email:

Yes, I did.
I called and they couldn't help me (he claimed due to confidentiality reasons he couldn't look up my app. Huh?). He told me that i probably misspelled something in my app and should resubmit it, which i did, and was accepted instantly (though, they didn't let me reuse the same user name (my favorite one :-[ ) that i used for the previous app).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 04, 2012, 12:10:18 AM
Soft pull, right?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on November 04, 2012, 12:12:48 AM
Soft pull, right?
If i recall correctly, Dan said so.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sruly101 on November 04, 2012, 06:37:59 AM
If i recall correctly, Dan said so.
is there a pull on it??????? ???
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 04, 2012, 07:21:29 AM
Soft pull, right?
I did not see any pull but only checked EX. IIRC they use a different database for verification.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on November 04, 2012, 07:24:56 AM
Soft pull, right?
is there a pull on it??????? ???

Check comments 23 and 38 here:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 04, 2012, 07:27:12 AM
Check comments 23 and 38 here:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892
That does not answer the question if it is a soft pull?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sruly101 on November 04, 2012, 01:12:10 PM
Check comments 23 and 38 here:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892
but a soft pull ye??????
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 07, 2012, 10:08:57 PM
When it says you can pay up to 5k a month is that every 30 days? or in Every month?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 08, 2012, 12:55:12 AM
When it says you can pay up to 5k a month is that every 30 days? or in Every month?
I will take a guess and say it is a 28 day rolling period. How did I come up with that? Like I said, just a guess.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ganizzy on November 08, 2012, 03:34:47 AM
so, i dont get why this is worth it?
if i dont have the ink bold and am only getting 1 pt per dollar (i dont have a cashback card either)
then its costing me $8 for every $1000
so i am spending $200 for 25,000 points - its something, but not worth the hassle

what am i missing?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 08, 2012, 05:34:08 AM
so, i dont get why this is worth it?
if i dont have the ink bold and am only getting 1 pt per dollar (i dont have a cashback card either)
then its costing me $8 for every $1000
so i am spending $200 for 25,000 points - its something, but not worth the hassle

what am i missing?
First off, use it to pay off your cc's.
Secondly, if you use an SPG card, then paying .8 cpm is a steal.
And don't forget than many cards have category bonus's for gas stations, drugstores, etc...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmulyg on November 08, 2012, 06:34:47 AM
so, i dont get why this is worth it?
if i dont have the ink bold and am only getting 1 pt per dollar (i dont have a cashback card either)
then its costing me $8 for every $1000
so i am spending $200 for 25,000 points - its something, but not worth the hassle

what am i missing?

Meeting spending thresholds...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 08, 2012, 09:51:05 AM
So I can load up my Bluebird with vanilla reloads via one CC, and then Bluebird to pay off my other CCs? Am I reading that right?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 08, 2012, 09:52:45 AM
So I can load up my Bluebird with vanilla reloads via one CC, and then Bluebird to pay off my other CCs? Am I reading that right?
...or pay the same CC.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 08, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
lol an endless loop nice. I can't imagine them letting us buy vanilla reloads with CC for much longer then.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 08, 2012, 09:57:29 AM
lol an endless loop nice. I can't imagine them letting us buy vanilla reloads with CC for much longer then.
It is very hard now for me to find 10k at one store. These FT guys are like vultures!  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 08, 2012, 09:58:27 AM
It is very hard now for me to find 10k at one store. These FT guys are like vultures!  :)

What state are you in? Also would I have an easier time if I wanted to find say 2.5k ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 08, 2012, 10:00:52 AM
What state are you in? Also would I have an easier time if I wanted to find say 2.5k ?
State does not matter. These things are gone the minute they get restocked.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 08, 2012, 10:05:52 AM
What a bunch of vultures
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lfas25 on November 08, 2012, 10:36:24 AM
It is very hard now for me to find 10k at one store. These FT guys are like vultures!  :)

What does FT stand for?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 08, 2012, 10:37:42 AM
flyertalk
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 08, 2012, 10:37:50 AM
FlyerTalk Forum.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lfas25 on November 08, 2012, 10:40:45 AM
flyertalk
FlyerTalk Forum.

Thanks
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 08, 2012, 11:12:04 AM
Anybody have an experience with the PayPal load cards found at cvs? Besides for the 3.95 are there any additional fees? Don't get to excited the max is $500 a day and 4k a month I believe.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 08, 2012, 12:35:58 PM
Anybody have an experience with the PayPal load cards found at cvs? Besides for the 3.95 are there any additional fees? Don't get to excited the max is $500 a day and 4k a month I believe.

If you are using Vanillas the load limits are higher (definitely > $500 day).  Shutdown will come swiftly on this one with any large activity (note it is supposedly run by Netspend).
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 08, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
If you are using Vanillas the load limits are higher (definitely > $500 day).  Shutdown will come swiftly on this one with any large activity (note it is supposedly run by Netspend).

I was asking about PayPal because they are easier to find.
Yes I am very familiar with Vanilla. Thank you.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 08, 2012, 01:20:20 PM
I was asking about PayPal because they are easier to find.
Yes I am very familiar with Vanilla. Thank you.

So Paypal is a prepaid.  Vanilla is a reload for prepaids (like Paypal and Bluebird).  You might be able to load a Paypal at the register with CC when you first buy.  What was your strategy going to be after that to load it (if not using Vanillas)?
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 08, 2012, 02:21:23 PM
So Paypal is a prepaid.  Vanilla is a reload for prepaids (like Paypal and Bluebird).  You might be able to load a Paypal at the register with CC when you first buy.  What was your strategy going to be after that to load it (if not using Vanillas)?

The card is meant to be added to your Paypal account.
Load it into my account --> transfer it into my bank account.
I would keep buying more cards. 8 a month as it will be the same price as vanilla
Do you think PayPal will charge me anything else beyond the initial 3.95 load fee.

Sorry if I wasn't clean
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on November 08, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
The card is meant to be added to your Paypal account.
Load it into my account --> transfer it into my bank account.

Do you think PayPal will charge me anything else beyond the initial 3.95 load fee.

Sorry if I wasn't clean
paypal will shut u down pretty quickly
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 08, 2012, 02:37:00 PM
The card is meant to be added to your Paypal account.
Load it into my account --> transfer it into my bank account.
I would keep buying more cards. 8 a month as it will be the same price as vanilla
Do you think PayPal will charge me anything else beyond the initial 3.95 load fee.

Sorry if I wasn't clean

Ah I gotcha - yes they supposedly charge a $4.95/month fee for each card.  You could close the card after draining it and repeat with another, but not sure how long they would let you keep doing that.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 08, 2012, 03:50:22 PM
If anyone ever finds a way to leverage this online, us Israeli's would be quite interested.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on November 08, 2012, 04:01:43 PM
Anybody have an experience with the PayPal load cards found at cvs? Besides for the 3.95 are there any additional fees? Don't get to excited the max is $500 a day and 4k a month I believe.
I'm almost sure they say on the package "must be paid for with cash".
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: montey on November 08, 2012, 06:01:06 PM
I take it the Amex prepaid cards at Office Depot can't be used to fund a Bluebird?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 08, 2012, 06:13:20 PM
Yes it can, but you can't find them
I just called a dozen or so stores, no one is in stock

How do you fund them with an Amex prepaid card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2012, 07:32:40 PM
I had a few questions after reading all 15 pages of posts:

1- Will it look suspicious if I buy 4 Vanilla cards ($2000) to fund my BB card to pay my rent (nearly $2k)?  I assume it is a legitimate use of both Vanilla and BB but because the rent amount is so high I wasn't sure if it would be flagged.

2- BB provides you with a routing/account number.  Could I use that to have my Gas Utility or auto loan just debit the amount I owe them straight from the BB account of do I need to use the bill pay option?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Mocha on November 08, 2012, 07:35:53 PM
BB provides you with a routing/account number.
Where is this provided?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2012, 07:45:27 PM
It's provided to enable you to do direct deposit. I just want to know if it works for direct debit also.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 08, 2012, 07:51:08 PM
It's provided to enable you to do direct deposit. I just want to know if it works for direct debit also.
It has been discussed already that a: it might not work and b:if it does your basically asking for your account to get shut down. The proper way to pay any bill with BB is to click 'pay bills' and then search for the merchant. It will take about 2 business days to process. If you can't find it then manually put the merchant info in and BB will send them a check on your behalf within 5 biz days. So if you planning on paying rent then make sure to initiate it 5 days before the due date.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
It wouldn't be a problem for me to have BB send a check, just wondering if it would be suspicious to buy $2k of Vanilla cards to fund the BB account.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 08, 2012, 09:54:50 PM
It wouldn't be a problem for me to have BB send a check, just wondering if it would be suspicious to buy $2k of Vanilla cards to fund the BB account.
No one can ever tell you exactly what amount will trigger something. I would just go easy not more than $1500 a pot
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2012, 10:06:30 PM
That might nix the rent idea, but there's always the car payments, utilities, etc.

Thanks!

Have you been using BB for a while or at all?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 08, 2012, 11:27:23 PM
That might nix the rent idea, but there's always the car payments, utilities, etc.

Thanks!

Have you been using BB for a while or at all?
I wouldn't nix rent. Just don't load 2k at once.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2012, 11:32:13 PM
Oh, gotcha.  I thought you can only load $1k/day anyway?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 09, 2012, 12:21:58 AM
You can’t have a biller pull a payment. It has been tried and does not work. You can load 1k/day, five days in a row. If your rent is 2k, 3k or 5k I don’t see what the problem is.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2012, 12:30:51 AM
Awesome, thanks.  Another question:

I was in OD today (they were out of Vanilla reload cards), but an employee told me they were expecting more next week.  She said that I could take as many as I wanted even if I don't load all of them up at the same time.  I could take 10, load up 5, and take the remaining 5 home empty.  All I'd do is bring them back to reload when I wanted to.  Has anyone heard of this/ done it?  I asked at CVS and they said they said I couldn't do that, but that they'd hold them for me until I needed them.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 10, 2012, 03:37:32 PM
Many reports on ft about od not stocking them anymore...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 10, 2012, 03:43:40 PM
Went to OD today, all gone
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 10, 2012, 04:10:27 PM
Fm just posted it
Memo was sent out to all stores

So who wants to post their haul?

I bought 4k when in the usa
U?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 10, 2012, 05:17:14 PM
HelpMe said he was going around doing 10k a pop, so he probably wins lol
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 10, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
The road trip for tomorrow is called off.  >:(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 10, 2012, 06:11:13 PM
They took them off the shelves?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PETERP on November 10, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
They took them off the shelves?

  They took the shelves off the walls , is what I hear ! Dead. Muerte. History. Just when I was going
to make a road trip
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 10, 2012, 06:18:19 PM
  They took the shelves off the walls , is what I hear ! Dead. Muerte. History. Just when I was going
to make a road trip

Wow. Maybe I'll try a local store tonight for fun. Just picked up 2k on Friday.
This died faster than I thought it would.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 06:24:28 PM
This died faster than I thought it would.

+1, knew something (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.msg324560#msg324560) would happen.

be tee dubs -- has this been confirmed?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 10, 2012, 06:40:30 PM
What is odd is that they pulled all cards. Why not just let them run out and not restock?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 10, 2012, 06:41:50 PM
What is odd is that they pulled all cards. Why not just let them run out and not restock?

Yeah, I wouldn't be too surprised to find some tonight. Only checking one store ...guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: smurf on November 10, 2012, 06:54:38 PM
What about cvs ? I know it isn't 5ppd but still a good way to hit big spends
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 10, 2012, 07:05:52 PM
What about cvs ? I know it isn't 5ppd but still a good way to hit big spends

Anywhere else you can find then that will let you pay with credit is still fine.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 10, 2012, 08:23:05 PM
No luck at my nearest store. Except I don't know if it's because they took them off the shelves or they were just sold out. Oh well.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2012, 09:34:13 PM
Here in LA OD said they'd be getting more next week.  Either way I have some on hold at CVS where the manager I spoke to said that 1) he'd hold them for me till next week (when my Ink bold card will come) and 2) I could use credit card.  I'll still look in OD just in case they get some in.

UPDATE- I just called OD and they said that as of today they won't be carrying VR anymore.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on November 10, 2012, 10:08:21 PM
Yes --
I went to 2 Office Depots here to check,
and they were told to remove their stock...
I got some at CVS tonight, instead.

btw -- When you mentioned that you'll use your Ink Bold at CVS,
it's only 5X UR points at an office supply store (like OD).
With the Chase Ink Bold at CVS, it's a regular purchase.

So, an SPG card may give you more value -- CVS takes Amex.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2012, 10:10:50 PM
I'm aware there's no 5x bonus at CVS , but 1) I just applied for the Ink card for the 50k UR bonus as my main incentive and 2) At least I have them at CVS.

Normally I'd just put it on SPG, but I'm trying to rack up a lot of UR points now as I'll need them for my next trip.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: scwam on November 10, 2012, 10:12:01 PM
Last week, I made it known to one store that I wanted to buy about 4k of these and asked them if ok to use cc. He said no problem. I came in today and asked a rep to hold 8 for me at 2pm today, he did, but seemed he felt uncomfortable about it. Flashback to yesterday: a different store's manager held 4 for me since 15 were suddenly gone in 2 days. I found those 4 hidden (by   8)). She agreed to pick some more up from another store that had them & allow me buy them today. When I called in today I was told they could not be sold according to the email.

So I immediately went back to the store holding the 8 and noticed the 30 cards previously there were completely taken off the shelf. The same guy that held them was there. I tried to avoid him, and got a rep to get them out of the drawer. Waiting some 15 minutes for the approval (call in), the original guy I spoke to from last week shows up. He remembers me and our conversation from last week, sees my DL and passport w/Chinese visa and verifies it closely. Authorization center takes 15 minutes and says I have to speak to Chase directly. I called and spent another 10 min and verified quite a bit of info and the unlocked my account and said to reswipe. Got the the total approved for a random number under 4k with some odd cents added. In this case it helped to talk to them ahead of time. Now just hope future human eyes don't look at the transaction.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2012, 10:33:48 PM
I hope I don't have problems at CVS when I go back.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 10, 2012, 11:39:24 PM
Just went to walgreens and bought 2 vanilla cards with my spg .
interestingly enough, a diff walgreens told me i needed to pay cash and thats what it said on the register screen.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 11, 2012, 12:00:08 AM
are there any precautind i should be taking when paying off my CC bill? (on amex) or after i buy the vanilla cards and load the money on bluebird, can i just pay off the bill once the transaction goes thru.?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2012, 12:02:32 AM
Why would you need to be careful in paying off a credit card bill?  Once the transaction posts, does AmEx of Chase really care how you pay it off?  I assume paying mid-month is fine.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 11, 2012, 12:21:43 AM
Just went to walgreens and bought 2 vanilla cards with my spg .
interestingly enough, a diff walgreens told me i needed to pay cash and thats what it said on the register screen.
Reports are that they are trying to roll that out to all their stores. Cash only.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 11, 2012, 12:48:22 AM
Reports are that they are trying to roll that out to all their stores. Cash only.
I better buy them out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 11, 2012, 01:40:05 AM
This is going to be dead everywhere soon, then it's back to the old tried and true ways of meeting spend.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 11, 2012, 01:42:21 AM
This is going to be dead everywhere soon, then it's back to the old tried and true ways of meeting spend.
....until the next thing comes along :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 11, 2012, 02:04:12 AM
....until the next thing comes along :)

Hopefully the bloggers don't get wind of that, or they'll kill it too. Stupid spoonfeeding.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PETERP on November 11, 2012, 04:02:20 AM
Hopefully the bloggers don't get wind of that, or they'll kill it too. Stupid spoonfeeding.


We have to start speaking in PMs . Plus rumor of at least one Mole in FT .

Loose lips , sink ships !
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2012, 09:01:23 AM

We have to start speaking in PMs . Plus rumor of at least one Mole in FT .

Loose lips , sink ships !

I'd bet there are a number of "moles" on FT and elsewhere from each bank.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 11, 2012, 09:10:13 AM

We have to start speaking in PMs . Plus rumor of at least one Mole in FT .

Loose lips , sink ships !
"we" make no difference. The bloggers do it much louder than we ever could on these deals.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: joesmoe on November 11, 2012, 09:24:09 AM
"we" make no difference. The bloggers do it much louder than we ever could on these deals.


Agreed. Its not only all the publicity the blogs get (google vanilla reload and they come up before the company does), its also the general lack of understanding of the blog's viewers. They are the people who call in 5 times to confirm things, draw extra attention to everything detail of the process (asking managers for example if their card still earns points even though they are buying a prepaid reload), etc.

Anybody who wants to follow a thread, actually learn whats going on, and carefully take advantage is not doing any harm. Those who run around trying to get free miles as quickly and easily as possible without really doing any research first are the ones who get these deals killed so quickly.

Unfortunately this leaves us (the community) a problem - we can't openly discuss ideas and collectively formulate strategies to take advantage of such ideas because the ideas get too public too quickly and thus die. Yet without the open discussion, many ideas either never come to fruition or are not managed as lucratively as possible.

Not quite sure what we can do about that though. This is why alot of FT has turned to discussing deals in Private Message, but that's just inefficient and going against the whole purpose of a forum.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 11, 2012, 09:48:02 AM
Walgreen in Aventura fl. Next to kosher kingdom has about 15 in stock. Wouldn't let me use credit though. Big warning popped up on the screen that it is only a Cash only transaction.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 11, 2012, 09:58:17 AM
Walgreen in Aventura fl. Next to kosher kingdom has about 15 in stock. Wouldn't let me use credit though. Big warning popped up on the screen that it is only a Cash only transaction.
Does od nmb still allow cc?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shvitzer on November 11, 2012, 10:04:33 AM
"we" make no difference. The bloggers do it much louder than we ever could on these deals.

Agree
Watch this funny youtube video for a touch of humor about Vanilla Reload and OD:
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 11, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
Unfortunately this leaves us (the community) a problem - we can't openly discuss ideas and collectively formulate strategies to take advantage of such ideas because the ideas get too public too quickly and thus die. Yet without the open discussion, many ideas either never come to fruition or are not managed as lucratively as possible.
Going to have to disagree with this. Private forums is where you want to exploit these deals. They do a better job than all the forums/blogs combined out there. I know that is a bold statement but it is what it is.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 11, 2012, 10:06:19 AM
"we" make no difference. The bloggers do it much louder than we ever could on these deals.
I think "we" have proven this is not always true.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PETERP on November 11, 2012, 10:10:48 AM
Agreed. Its not only all the publicity the blogs get (google vanilla reload and they come up before the company does), its also the general lack of understanding of the blog's viewers. They are the people who call in 5 times to confirm things, draw extra attention to everything detail of the process (asking managers for example if their card still earns points even though they are buying a prepaid reload), etc.

Anybody who wants to follow a thread, actually learn whats going on, and carefully take advantage is not doing any harm. Those who run around trying to get free miles as quickly and easily as possible without really doing any research first are the ones who get these deals killed so quickly.

Unfortunately this leaves us (the community) a problem - we can't openly discuss ideas and collectively formulate strategies to take advantage of such ideas because the ideas get too public too quickly and thus die. Yet without the open discussion, many ideas either never come to fruition or are not managed as lucratively as possible.

Not quite sure what we can do about that though. This is why alot of FT has turned to discussing deals in Private Message, but that's just inefficient and going against the whole purpose of a forum.

Plus lazy bloggers can just pick off info and strategies from forums , and sometimes we make their
job easier. No one said it was going to be easy , but we have to make it as difficult as possible for the
spoon feeding newbie bloggers . 
Sometimes the purpose of a forum may remain the same , but adjustments to accessibility be made.

A la IRC  day traders etc which are I believe more controlled or at least they used to be
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 11, 2012, 10:18:50 AM
Plus lazy bloggers can just pick off info and strategies from forums , and sometimes we make their
job easier. No one said it was going to be easy , but we have to make it as difficult as possible for the
spoon feeding newbie bloggers . 
Sometimes the purpose of a forum may remain the same , but adjustments to accessibility be made.

A la IRC  day traders etc which are I believe more controlled or at least they used to be
You also want to look for deals that carry some risk and need some capital to do. These deals the bloggers can't sell to their readers.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 11, 2012, 10:24:35 AM
I went to an OD last night they were out of stock. This morn they had 8 on the shelf. I bought 4 no problem and left another 4 for the population.

The check out lady asked what I do with them. I told them my kids have ore paid cards and that's how I distribute funds to them
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 11, 2012, 10:35:22 AM
I went to an OD last night they were out of stock. This morn they had 8 on the shelf. I bought 4 no problem and left another 4 for the population.

The check out lady asked what I do with them. I told them my kids have ore paid cards and that's how I distribute funds to them
I have a store about 25 miles away that someone hid about 15 of them behind other GC's. ;D  Now I might take a ride.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 11, 2012, 10:41:12 AM
I have a store about 25 miles away that someone hid about 15 of them behind other GC's. ;D  Now I might take a ride.

Good luck. Post back.
I guess it is NOT officially dead
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 11, 2012, 11:38:43 AM
Million Mile Secrets loves killing deals
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 11, 2012, 11:42:03 AM
Million Mile Secrets loves killing deals


Is it dead? My experience it worked this morn. And the OD even restocked their shelves over last night.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yitz on November 11, 2012, 12:07:34 PM
I went to an OD last night they were out of stock. This morn they had 8 on the shelf. I bought 4 no problem and left another 4 for the population.

The check out lady asked what I do with them. I told them my kids have ore paid cards and that's how I distribute funds to them
What City
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 11, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
What City

South FL area.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aussiebochur on November 11, 2012, 01:29:19 PM
Memo to remove VR, http://i.imgur.com/lIuZZ.jpg
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on November 11, 2012, 01:35:04 PM
Memo to remove VR, http://i.imgur.com/lIuZZ.jpg

That directive originated from Chase?
From Office Depot?

If we buy Amex Premium Reloadables from OD, can we get some cash from an ATM?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2012, 05:57:42 PM
VR may be dead, but what about buying a regular visa or MC GC from OD and then using that at CVS or wherever VR cards are still sold?  Might not be 5x on Ink cards, but still better than 1x.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on November 11, 2012, 06:00:12 PM
I found VR cards at my local CVS today in NYC!!!! bought 4 of them on 2 diff cards....  first time I found them in nyc!!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yitz on November 11, 2012, 06:33:43 PM
I found VR cards at my local CVS today in NYC!!!! bought 4 of them on 2 diff cards....  first time I found them in nyc!!!!
what are the benefit of getting it at CVS if you only get 1 point
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2012, 06:34:27 PM
At least they're available to be purchased with CC.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 11, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
what are the benefit of getting it at CVS if you only get 1 point
1. Buying miles/points at 0.79 cents each is darn good.
2. If you can use the purchase to meet a spend threshold it's even better.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yitz on November 11, 2012, 06:36:49 PM
1. Buying miles/points at 0.79 cents each is darn good.
2. If you can use the purchase to meet a spend threshold it's even better.
+1
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yare on November 11, 2012, 06:38:56 PM
I found VR cards at my local CVS today in NYC!!!! bought 4 of them on 2 diff cards....  first time I found them in nyc!!!!
if you want them to last the day you prob shouldn't announce where that is
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ganizzy on November 11, 2012, 08:25:38 PM
i dont have a problem getting the vr cards here in ca, but i signed up for a bluebird account last week and still didnt recieve anything. do i need the card to use the vr with bluebird?

if i need to make a $3000 payment to someone will that cause problems?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 11, 2012, 08:42:44 PM
i dont have a problem getting the vr cards here in ca, but i signed up for a bluebird account last week and still didnt recieve anything. do i need the card to use the vr with bluebird?

if i need to make a $3000 payment to someone will that cause problems?

Where in CA are you? I can't find them at any OD or CVS in San Diego.

Also VR for Bluebird should of only been used to meet CC spend. These idiots like MMS were openly encouraging people to go max out their Ink cards at OD every month on VRs.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ganizzy on November 11, 2012, 08:50:59 PM
im in la
saw them in walgreens
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 11, 2012, 08:55:22 PM
im in la
saw them in walgreens

Did you try buying them with CC? I've heard Walgreens is hit or miss.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 11, 2012, 09:10:27 PM
Did you try buying them with CC? I've heard Walgreens is hit or miss.
it is a hit or miss as my post above. i am in LA and i did the same and worked in one and not the other
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 11, 2012, 10:19:18 PM
as of now...no VR in CVS near me
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on November 11, 2012, 10:21:28 PM
as of now...no VR in CVS near me
same is & will be true atmost stores
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 11, 2012, 10:39:45 PM
same is & will be true atmost stores

What? The VRs are supposed to be rolling out to all CVS stores.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 11, 2012, 10:44:42 PM
What? The VRs are supposed to be rolling out to all CVS stores.

Hook me up

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 11, 2012, 11:46:31 PM
I walked by CVS in lower Manhattan today, so I stepped in to see if they had any VR, didn't see any.

They also had this sign posted, though from the other posts in this thread it doesn't seem like it's widespread (yet?):

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 12, 2012, 12:15:10 AM
I walked by CVS in lower Manhattan today, so I stepped in to see if they had any VR, didn't see any.

They also had this sign posted, though from the other posts in this thread it doesn't seem like it's widespread (yet?):

MMS kills yet another deal LOL
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 12, 2012, 08:26:33 AM
MMS kills yet another deal LOL

FMs last post on reloadable cards is a bit vague and he actually explains it's because these deals aren't for everyone and he doesn't want to kill the deals (If you're asking me he said way too much even in that post). Hopefully other bloggers will follow suit.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 12, 2012, 09:00:12 AM
Some of the bloggers are ok.

MMS is an idiot that just trolls FT and then posts all the ideas as his own, and he doesn't care if he kills the deals as long as he gets some referral sign ups out of it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Ergel on November 12, 2012, 09:12:43 AM
I hear why you're upset, but from his perspective, doesn't that make sense. It's a business and that's how he earns the most cash possible
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on November 12, 2012, 09:15:40 AM
I found more VR cards at a CVS. After loading 4 of them (2 different CC's) the manager told me that she gets in trouble for selling more than $1000 in gift cards to the same person on the same day. so I had to stop there.


Anyone else heard of that?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 12, 2012, 09:34:08 AM
I found more VR cards at a CVS. After loading 4 of them (2 different CC's) the manager told me that she gets in trouble for selling more than $1000 in gift cards to the same person on the same day. so I had to stop there.


Anyone else heard of that?

What state are you located in?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on November 12, 2012, 09:39:33 AM
What state are you located in?
ny
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 12, 2012, 12:04:45 PM
I hear why you're upset, but from his perspective, doesn't that make sense. It's a business and that's how he earns the most cash possible
Then he should just say that and not pretend he is trying to help his readers.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Ergel on November 12, 2012, 12:10:50 PM
Then he should just say that and not pretend he is trying to help his readers.
Have you heard any commercials recently by banks-trying to help the community, small business, etc. think they are telling the truth.
That's the way the world works-people pretend they are altruistic but anyone with any sense of reality sees right through it
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 12, 2012, 12:44:34 PM
Game over guys.:-(  I just went to two different Office Depots and they told me that the order came from corporate to pull all the vanilla reloads yet she had no idea why. ....:P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yare on November 12, 2012, 01:06:25 PM
Then he should just say that and not pretend he is trying to help his readers.
why don't all lawyers, businessmen etc etc tell their clients they're in it for themselves?     everyone's in it for the money and people (should) understand that. it doesn't mean though that you go around with a sign on your forehead.  there are no altruistic bloggers who do this for a living, the real world doesn't work like that.    now, that doesn't preclude some of them don't from also enjoying helping people out...     
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 12, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
Some of the bloggers are ok.

MMS is an idiot that just trolls FT and then posts all the ideas as his own, and he doesn't care if he kills the deals as long as he gets some referral sign ups out of it.
-1
It was posted on at least 10 blogs, and the FT community alone would be enough to kill it. They have some real heavy hitters there, including some dude named ctownbochur. :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on November 12, 2012, 01:14:08 PM
@yare
Lawyers are in it for the money,  but there aren't any negative consequences. OTOH, MMS/Bloggers post about these things for their own good/(wallet), and the consequences are far and wide. 

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Ergel on November 12, 2012, 01:17:46 PM
Eh. It's America. Everyone is trying to get rich. It's called capitalism. Every man for himself. Unless you're a democrat
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 12, 2012, 01:47:14 PM
It was posted on at least 10 blogs, and the FT community alone would be enough to kill it. They have some real heavy hitters there, including some dude named ctownbochur. :)

-1

He hasn't got near access to OD, so it wasn't him :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 01:50:45 PM
-1

He hasn't got near access to OD, so it wasn't him :P
Nor do 80%+ of my readers (that live in NYC, CLE, or abroad), but that's not a here nor there.
The idea that this kind of thing won't make it around the internets (not just blogs, but FW, SD, FT, et al) is foolhardy.  All deals come to an end, though this one is hardly dead yet.

I do think MMS making every single blog post for the past 3 weeks about BB is overkill, but that's just my opinion.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on November 12, 2012, 01:52:12 PM
Nor do 80%+ of my readers (that live in NYC, CLE, or abroad), but that's not a here nor there.
The idea that this kind of thing won't make it around the internets (not just blogs, but FW, SD, FT, et al) is foolhardy.  All deals come to an end, though this one is hardly dead yet.

I do think MMS making every single blog post for the past 3 weeks about BB is overkill, but that's just my opinion.

+1  about the overkill on MMS and BB. But without him, I would never have looked in CVS and I have found in 2 CVS stores in the past 2 days in NYC.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 12, 2012, 01:52:20 PM
What, you don't like all the big yellow arrows?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 12, 2012, 01:53:23 PM
Nor do 80%+ of my readers (that live in NYC...)

Not really true ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 01:56:49 PM
Not really true ;)
You found VR at OD in NYC?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 12, 2012, 02:00:25 PM
I can neither confirm nor deny such an allegation.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 02:00:53 PM
Lol. Lucky you!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 02:02:14 PM
But without him, I would never have looked in CVS and I have found in 2 CVS stores in the past 2 days in NYC.
People have mentioned CVS in this thread multiple times, dating back to 10/23.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on November 12, 2012, 02:08:34 PM
The OD in my area (Eastern Half of the US)
permitted me to get 2K on one card and 1K on another card
2 weeks ago...

He said straight out that people were always coming in and buying
$3500 at a time -- They had no problem with it --
Another time, i bought a few from another cashier -- no problem, at all --
as if I were buying white-out.

Right now, they are in the CVS's here;
it seems that the register limits them to $1,000 per person/transaction.
(The manager had to get the cards from the delivery box, MOtzei Shabbbos,
they were not yet on display!)   :)
Title: Which cards are the vanilla reloadable?
Post by: mringelheim on November 12, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
Hi all - I went to cvs and they had vanilla gift cards and vanilla prepaide cards for up to 500 dollars.  On the prepaid cards it menitoned u can check balance with onevanilla.com - Is that the vanilla reloadable cards you can use for Bluebird?  They didnt have anything called vanilla reloadable.. thanks
Title: Re: Which cards are the vanilla reloadable?
Post by: eis517 on November 12, 2012, 02:46:21 PM
Hi all - I went to cvs and they had vanilla gift cards and vanilla prepaide cards for up to 500 dollars.  On the prepaid cards it menitoned u can check balance with onevanilla.com - Is that the vanilla reloadable cards you can use for Bluebird?  They didnt have anything called vanilla reloadable.. thanks

They are white with some black in the top left corner. Says Vanilla reload network on them. It says "prepaid Reload" in large green letters on the front./
Title: Re: Which cards are the vanilla reloadable?
Post by: sky121 on November 12, 2012, 02:46:33 PM
Nope Vanilla reload cards will say vanilla reload. Maybe someone can post a pic. I'm on a mobile at the moment.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 03:08:46 PM
Nope Vanilla reload cards will say vanilla reload. Maybe someone can post a pic. I'm on a mobile at the moment.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 03:11:46 PM
What, you don't like all the big yellow arrows?
Just for you...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on November 12, 2012, 03:18:21 PM
haaaa.. :)

I was describing the VRs to the CVS manager -- the were not on the racks, yet.
He looked through 2 new delivery boxes before finding a package of them (there are only 8-10 in each package...)

This photo would have come in handy for him to see!  jk..
However, let's NOT bring pics into CVS, please -- we need these for a at least few more weeks... 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: L123 on November 12, 2012, 03:21:17 PM
Can I use my bluebird  to pay other's bill (like my friend's credit card bill)?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 12, 2012, 03:48:12 PM
Just for you...

 ;D

I see two can play that game. Careful, though, or you might become the scourge of FT.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 12, 2012, 04:09:27 PM
I hear why you're upset, but from his perspective, doesn't that make sense. It's a business and that's how he earns the most cash possible

I disagree, killing a deal is a money grab, and he might make more in the long run. Besides. how does he make money by telling people to go to B&M OD to buy VR cards?

The idea that this kind of thing won't make it around the internets (not just blogs, but FW, SD, FT, et al) is foolhardy.

I understand people will post, but I think the bloggers (at least some of them) really spell it out instead of alluding to things and letting the intelligent people who won't kill deals get in on it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 04:12:33 PM
I understand people will post, but I think the bloggers (at least some of them) really spell it out instead of alluding to things and letting the intelligent people who won't kill deals get in on it.
Agreed, but there will always be a race to the bottom to over-simplify and thereby grab market-share of the least intelligent readership.
I do the the over-simplification is indeed a big problem, not only as it makes this all much more widespread but it also tips off companies themselves, but that doesn't mean it's going to end.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 12, 2012, 04:15:08 PM
I disagree, killing a deal is a money grab, and he might make more in the long run. Besides. how does he make money by telling people to go to B&M OD to buy VR cards?
Causes more ppl to sign up for the Ink cards using his links.

C'mon though. All these bloggers do this. Whether it's w/ cc links or product sales. At least MMS always says when he's publishing a referral link and will say when not to use it if a better offer linky is floating around.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 12, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
Agreed, but there will always be a race to the bottom to over-simplify and thereby grab market-share of the least intelligent readership.
I do the the over-simplification is indeed a big problem, not only as it makes this all much more widespread but it also tips off companies themselves, but that doesn't mean it's going to end.

The race to the bottom is a losing strategy for everyone, a greedy money grab that even hearts the bloggers at the bottom. They should put in the effort and compete on content quality, heck, some (like you) actually do :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 04:29:59 PM
C'mon though. All these bloggers do this.
IMO there's a difference between mentioning it once or twice and adding value or posting obsessively about it twice a day for weeks on end to get your Google rank on the subject up even higher than the card itself. So much for being low-key.
 
And between writing about it and letting people add 2+2 or dumbing it down to the lowest common denominator.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 12, 2012, 04:39:16 PM
IMO there's a difference between mentioning it once or twice and adding value or posting obsessively about it twice a day for weeks on end to get your Google rank on the subject up even higher than the card itself. So much for being low-key.
 
And between writing about it and letting people add 2+2 or dumbing it down to the lowest common denominator.

And what's even more annoying is that these lowest-common-denominator bloggers all follow the better blogs, and steal (and kill) all their good ideas. This cross-posting syndrome is stupid, it makes for lots of repetition.

/vent
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 12, 2012, 04:42:54 PM
The race to the bottom is a losing strategy for everyone, a greedy money grab that even hearts the bloggers at the bottom. They should put in the effort and compete on content quality, heck, some (like you) actually do :P
I find that FM probably does the most leg work out of all the bloggers, and as a result, publishes the most chiddushim.

IMO there's a difference between mentioning it once or twice and adding value or posting obsessively about it twice a day for weeks on end to get your Google rank on the subject up even higher than the card itself. So much for being low-key.
 
And between writing about it and letting people add 2+2 or dumbing it down to the lowest common denominator.
Agreed. It was becoming too much seeing the daily posts about how to do every possible action.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 04:45:25 PM
Agreed. It was becoming too much seeing the daily posts about how to do every possible action.
My guess is that was all a google bomb to get new readers.  Otherwise I can't understand it.
I mean what existing reader wants to read the same darn thing for 3 weeks in a row?
But from Google results it looks like it worked and I'm sure he's getting a ton of referred traffic and new eyeballs from that.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 12, 2012, 05:02:08 PM
VR's was well know to the FWF crowd. Someone show where is was posted there (8-10 months ago). All these bloggers are doing is making less info available not more. Oh one more thing, PLEASE STOP WITH THE PICTURES.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 12, 2012, 05:20:22 PM
Right but VR became much more attractive for the commoners when BB came along.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 12, 2012, 06:43:12 PM
VR's was well know to the FWF crowd. Someone show where is was posted there (8-10 months ago). All these bloggers are doing is making less info available not more. Oh one more thing, PLEASE STOP WITH THE PICTURES.

It's pretty bad when OD managers know who MMS's wife is from the friggin pictures he keeps posting lol
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 12, 2012, 07:03:10 PM
haha
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 12, 2012, 11:05:38 PM
Il never understand how ppl can believe that big banks are oblivious to these little shticks.. They clearly have very smart people and fraud departments. They just dont care about it when its not very popular. Its when things become to wide spread that they put their foot down.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 13, 2012, 12:26:29 AM
This is getting more difficult with every passing day still waiting for my BB card to arrive, in the meantime I was denied purchasing a Vanilla reload card with my credit card they said only Cash @walgreens, sucks any ideas where i can load the BB with credit card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on November 13, 2012, 02:49:29 PM
This is getting more difficult with every passing day still waiting for my BB card to arrive, in the meantime I was denied purchasing a Vanilla reload card with my credit card they said only Cash @walgreens, sucks any ideas where i can load the BB buy a VR with credit card?

FTFY
CVS
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 13, 2012, 02:53:47 PM
FTFY
CVS

Are all CVS carrying them?
I have tried 2 so far (1 in NY and 1 in NJ) and they only carry the GC, not the reloadables.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 13, 2012, 02:55:15 PM
The 2 CVSs I went to in LA both had.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on November 13, 2012, 02:59:31 PM
Are all CVS carrying them?
I have tried 2 so far (1 in NY and 1 in NJ) and they only carry the GC, not the reloadables.
From what I understand they are being rolled out. Just call ahead.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 13, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
Just bought $2k VR from CVS in LA without a problem.  The cashier needed to ring it up in 2 transactions, but what difference did it make to me?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on November 13, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
^  Yes  ^ 

Same as above -- I used the same cc to ring up 2K in 2 sep transactions at the closest CVS.

It's still new...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 13, 2012, 08:15:39 PM
Keep talking about it and it will go from new to DEAD!!! Lets learn from our mistakes not keep making the same ones over and over.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 13, 2012, 08:22:14 PM
Keep talking about it and it will go from new to DEAD!!! Lets learn from our mistakes not keep making the same ones over and over.

Million Mile Idiot will post about it everyday with pictures until it's dead.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on November 13, 2012, 09:06:54 PM
Million Mile Idiot will post about it everyday with pictures until it's dead.

+1, perhaps not him specifically, but whether it's talked about here will make precisely zero difference in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: scwam on November 13, 2012, 10:34:14 PM
Agreed. Some of these people promoting this so much on the web would get busted robbing the bank before they even set foot in the door.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PETERP on November 14, 2012, 03:23:53 AM
+1, perhaps not him specifically, but whether it's talked about here will make precisely zero difference in the grand scheme of things.

  Is there a CVS or Walgreens in Greece .LOL  Getting ready for next appo and wish I was back NYC
You guys have all the fun  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 14, 2012, 06:12:30 AM
+1, perhaps not him specifically, but whether it's talked about here will make precisely zero difference in the grand scheme of things.
IME that is not always the case. Sometimes less is more.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Smartypantz on November 14, 2012, 08:24:01 AM
Anyone know any stores in or near Monsey that have the Vanilla Reload cards? So far all I have found was the onevanilla cards. Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: RT on November 14, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
Im a little slow, how exactly does the blubird churn work?  I know I need to buy a bluebird card and then buy vanilla reloads but im still slightly confused. Im new to this... ( i have chase SP card and Freedom card linked to my chase bank if this makes a difference)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: David S on November 16, 2012, 03:11:24 PM
I was at Office Depot in Paramus today and they had a sign above the GC section indicating that the maximum allowed on a Vanilla Reload card was $200 when funded by CC or DC.

When I couldn't find any though, the employees said that they were permanently discontinued at that location.

Any suggestions on where to by in or near NYC?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 17, 2012, 06:47:45 PM
This is getting more difficult with every passing day still waiting for my BB card to arrive, in the meantime I was denied purchasing a Vanilla reload card with my credit card they said only Cash @walgreens, sucks any ideas where i can load the BB with credit card?
No.
Anyone know any stores in or near Monsey that have the Vanilla Reload cards? So far all I have found was the onevanilla cards. Thanks!
No.
I was at Office Depot in Paramus today and they had a sign above the GC section indicating that the maximum allowed on a Vanilla Reload card was $200 when funded by CC or DC.

When I couldn't find any though, the employees said that they were permanently discontinued at that location.

Any suggestions on where to by in or near NYC?
No.

Any other questions?  ::)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: WhyAich on November 17, 2012, 09:05:56 PM
No.No.No.

Any other questions?  ::)

it's one thing when most people  answer no, that's because they dont know (and if they dont know, there's no point in posting :)) ), but from a guy in the 'know' to say no...

:)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on November 18, 2012, 07:29:11 PM
Any other questions?  ::)
I am on the fence and haven't gotten BB yet but I have been reading all about it.
1) Are credit cards listed in their bill pay?
2)  If yes then why would it be considdered risky to use it ti pay your cc bill?  Isn't that how they want you to use it?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 18, 2012, 07:46:02 PM
It's free, I signed up for it just because
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 19, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
I am on the fence and haven't gotten BB yet but I have been reading all about it.
1) Are credit cards listed in their bill pay?
2)  If yes then why would it be considdered risky to use it ti pay your cc bill?  Isn't that how they want you to use it?
1 - yes
2 - no

When I ask "any other questions" I was being sarcastic.

Now, any other questions?  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on November 19, 2012, 10:24:12 AM
When I ask "any other questions" I was being sarcastic.
I figured as much but rather than just ask my question I figured I would quote you :D
Would there really be a banned risk involved with using it to pay your cc bill?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 19, 2012, 12:11:46 PM
Can someone explain what am i gaining if i have to pay 3.95 fee for a $500 VR card to load my BB card, I dont gain much in UR points if there is this fee
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 19, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
Can someone explain what am i gaining if i have to pay 3.95 fee for a $500 VR card to load my BB card, I dont gain much in UR points if there is this fee

UR @ less than 1 cent per point...

#ELI5
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 12:13:57 PM
Can someone explain what am i gaining if i have to pay 3.95 fee for a $500 VR card to load my BB card, I dont gain much in UR points if there is this fee
UR points are worth ~1.9 cents, SPG points are worth ~2.2 cents and you are buying them at 0.79 cents or far less than that if you are doing it to hit a spend threshold.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2012, 12:16:51 PM
Met a guy who minted 1 mil UR... looks like Im in the wrong business
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 19, 2012, 12:58:10 PM
UR points are worth ~1.9 cents, SPG points are worth ~2.2 cents and you are buying them at 0.79 cents or far less than that if you are doing it to hit a spend threshold.
dan thanks for your response, i'm not doing it to hit a spend threshold just for bills that I cant use my credit card so at least get some points out of it, was just wondering.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yosele on November 19, 2012, 01:23:13 PM
Met a guy who minted 1 mil UR... looks like Im in the wrong business
'mint'ed pun intended?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 19, 2012, 01:46:41 PM
Would there really be a banned risk involved with using it to pay your cc bill?
I would not pay Amex with it but others are fair game.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 19, 2012, 01:50:50 PM
I don’t know where to put this so it goes here. VR’s getting shutdown at OD is actually a blessing in disguise. Too often we get comfortable with one deal. I broke my own rule on this one.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 19, 2012, 02:13:53 PM
I would not pay Amex with it but others are fair game.
why wouldnt u use it to pay with amex?
i paid 2k to amex so far with it. i dont plain on doing more now for amex because i hit the threshold, but is that a problem in your eyes?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 19, 2012, 02:17:43 PM
why wouldnt u use it to pay with amex?
i paid 2k to amex so far with it. i dont plain on doing more now for amex because i hit the threshold, but is that a problem in your eyes?
It is an unwritten rule for me. The same goes for all FI's. I would not use TY checks to pay a CITI card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on November 19, 2012, 04:03:46 PM
I looked at my online banking and other than mortgage and my electric bill the only checks I write are to pay my cc bill.  I wouldn't have much to gain by BB.  BUT if I can pay my CC bills with my cc and have an endless loop well that would sure be worth it i think.
Unlless I get banned of course.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 19, 2012, 04:51:50 PM
Received this error message when loading my third VR. Thoughts?

An error has occurred during this transaction. Please verify all the information is correct and try again. If you continue to receive this message contact a service representative for assistance. (180)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 19, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
Daily limit for VR is $1000.  Try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 19, 2012, 07:02:30 PM
main question is it still worth if you dont need for spend threshold to purchase $500 VR to get UR points (dont forget reloads are 3.95) ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 19, 2012, 07:24:27 PM
Think of it as buying 500 UR points for $3.95 instead of about $9 (at ~1.8¢ each).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: scwam on November 19, 2012, 09:13:19 PM
Received this error message when loading my third VR. Thoughts?

An error has occurred during this transaction. Please verify all the information is correct and try again. If you continue to receive this message contact a service representative for assistance. (180)

Also, monthly limit for VR + WM reloads combined is 5k. I hit this with both at ~$4700 and can not load another 500 VR.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on November 19, 2012, 11:26:09 PM
Daily limit for VR is $1000.  Try again tomorrow.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 20, 2012, 10:52:33 AM
Just messed up. I thought I found the right vanilla cards, but in the end they were the myvanilla reloadable debit cards that don't work with bluebird  :(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: TC610 on November 20, 2012, 02:33:45 PM
Just messed up. I thought I found the right vanilla cards, but in the end they were the myvanilla reloadable debit cards that don't work with bluebird  :(

Browsing the thread a bit might've helped.  Dan posted a picture of it a while back.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.msg337038#msg337038
IMO the Vanilla Reload and the debit cards look completely different.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 20, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
Browsing the thread a bit might've helped.  Dan posted a picture of it a while back.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.msg337038#msg337038
IMO the Vanilla Reload and the debit cards look completely different.

Agreed 100%. I just thought it was new packaging. Just got really excited as I finally saw a reloadable vanilla.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 20, 2012, 03:12:03 PM
FWIW I was able to cash them out at the bank as a cash advance without any fee. So $1,000 spend with a fee of $7.90.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Smartypantz on November 20, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
FWIW I was able to cash them out at the bank as a cash advance without any fee. So $1,000 spend with a fee of $7.90.

Which kind of card? Vanilaa reload or the other kind of vanilla debit?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 20, 2012, 05:06:44 PM
Which kind of card? Vanilaa reload or the other kind of vanilla debit?
My vanilla reloadable debit card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: David S on November 20, 2012, 10:51:02 PM
I was in Family Dollar this evening and they had VR cards, but ones that have no pin number on them (no scratch off). They were cool with me using a CC to pay for them, but said that I had to fund an existing card. They mentioned that they used to have the regular ones (with the scratch off), but now carry these.

Do they mean reloading a regular VR card or something different? If so, is there anywhere to get an empty one so I could fund it there?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Smartypantz on November 20, 2012, 11:24:12 PM
My vanilla reloadable debit card.

Cool so any bank will cash out a reloadable vanilla card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: businessmachine on November 20, 2012, 11:39:26 PM
From what I understood, the problem with my vanilla is that you have to load the card, then register with vanilla and provide your info such as SSN etc. Then, you will get another card mailed to you where you can reload it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 21, 2012, 12:01:19 AM
From what I understood, the problem with my vanilla is that you have to load the card, then register with vanilla and provide your info such as SSN etc. Then, you will get another card mailed to you where you can reload it.

What's wrong with that?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 21, 2012, 12:05:23 AM
VRs are no where to be found in San Diego at any store. What are my other options for meeting spend on pre-paids, etc?

Paypal? MyVanilla? Green Dot?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Cbs on November 21, 2012, 12:23:48 AM
From what I understood, the problem with my vanilla is that you have to load the card, then register with vanilla and provide your info such as SSN etc. Then, you will get another card mailed to you where you can reload it.
what are you talking about? the vanilla reload?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 11:06:27 AM
Cool so any bank will cash out a reloadable vanilla card?

I went to the bank where I do my banking. I figured I could probably cash out at the ATM, but I would lose $3 for the fee and then I would have $7 stuck on the card as you can only get increments of $10 from the ATM. I went to the teller and asked her. She said that she could do it as a cash advance. Had her put the money back into my checking account.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 21, 2012, 01:30:11 PM
I went to the bank where I do my banking. I figured I could probably cash out at the ATM, but I would lose $3 for the fee and then I would have $7 stuck on the card as you can only get increments of $10 from the ATM. I went to the teller and asked her. She said that she could do it as a cash advance. Had her put the money back into my checking account.

Which bank, what branch?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on November 21, 2012, 03:44:38 PM
Just went to a cvs in hillside queens, tons of VR available. Took 6 to the register... "Cash only".

 >:(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on November 21, 2012, 03:57:33 PM
Just went to a cvs in hillside queens, tons of VR available. Took 6 to the register... "Cash only".

 >:(
HUCA
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: smurf on November 21, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
HUCA
Sometimes the system won't allow credit or at least there will be a notice on screen warning that the transaction is cash only
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on November 21, 2012, 04:10:28 PM
Sometimes the system won't allow credit or at least there will be a notice on screen warning that the transaction is cash only
they tried to do that to me in Walgreens, I told them it doesn't say anywhere on the package you can't use cc, that's only on prepaid credit cards, and they let
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 05:53:30 PM
Sometimes the system won't allow credit or at least there will be a notice on screen warning that the transaction is cash only
Not at CVS.
There is a limit of $1,000/transaction though.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 06:04:04 PM
Not at CVS.
There is a limit of $1,000/transaction though.

They told me $1000 per day.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 21, 2012, 06:05:32 PM
I've done $2000 on one day in two transactions.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 06:06:28 PM
They told me $1000 per day.
They made that up.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 06:10:37 PM
What is the advantage of using vr with bb if you can just load a my vanilla debit and then cash out?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 06:14:25 PM
What is the advantage of using vr with bb if you can just load a my vanilla debit and then cash out?

Nothing.
What bank did you go to?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 06:21:44 PM
Nothing.
What bank did you go to?

Citi. Someone should try elsewhere to see if it works.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 06:33:20 PM
VR's are to be loaded with cash only. Look at step one in big letters on the back of the card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 06:37:02 PM
VR's are to be loaded with cash only. Look at step one in big letters on the back of the card.
Meh.  It doesn't say "Cash Only" it says "Load Cash."
That's pretty vague.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 06:46:00 PM
Meh.  It doesn't say "Cash Only" it says "Load Cash."
That's pretty vague.
Are we going to have a discussion now on what "cash" is? Call up InComm and you will have an answer.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 21, 2012, 06:47:14 PM
What is the advantage of using vr with bb if you can just load a my vanilla debit and then cash out?

Explain please
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 06:52:10 PM
Explain please
Take MV debit card to the bank and get cash.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 21, 2012, 06:54:38 PM
Take MV debit card to the bank and get cash.

How much do they charge to cash out?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 06:57:34 PM
Not sure, I have never done it but IIRC the fee schedule say 1.95.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 21, 2012, 07:01:26 PM
So CVS takes CC for MV Debit and I can go cash it out at Citi?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 07:02:19 PM
How much do they charge to cash out?
Probably depends on the bank and your account type.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 07:03:15 PM
Are we going to have a discussion now on what "cash" is? Call up InComm and you will have an answer.  ;)
No, but it's not that hard to argue with to an employee if needed. Frankly I've never had an issue.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
No, but it's not that hard to argue with to an employee if needed. Frankly I've never had an issue.
I agree but would not push it. Just go to another store or back to that one later. No need to draw attention. I have had it happen and just say OK.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 07:07:20 PM
I'd just say why don't we try it and see if it works.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 21, 2012, 07:07:48 PM
Probably depends on the bank and your account type.

It's a regular cash advance? I never done this before. You need to have a bank account there?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 07:11:19 PM
I'd just say why don't we try it and see if it works.
Don't try that with a old clerk. Had one today point out the "Load Cash" to me. OT but has anyone noticed that Jewel has older and meaner clerks than Dominick's?  ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 07:12:06 PM
It's a regular cash advance? I never done this before. You need to have a bank account there?
That would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on November 21, 2012, 07:12:27 PM
Out of BofA, Chase, and Citi which would be the best one to cash out a MVD at?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 21, 2012, 07:14:33 PM
That would be a good idea.

Why should it make a difference if your cashing out a card.  It's not like your using there card. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 07:15:47 PM
Out of BofA, Chase, and Citi which would be the best one to cash out a MVD at?
They should work at all three. The T&C's allow it. One thing to remember is MVD is having all kinds of problems with their card since it is a new product.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 07:17:13 PM
Why should it make a difference if your cashing out a card.  It's not like your using there card. Am I missing something?
Having an account and depositing the funds into it will make the bank feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 07:18:01 PM
This whole thing came about because I thought I made a mistake by buying the wrong vanilla card.  I wanted to get the cash back right away so I went to the bank. I figured that if I used the ATM, I would pay the $3 ATM fee for using a non-bank card and then I would be stuck with $7 on the card because you can only take in increments of $10.
So, I went to the teller and asked her if she could take the cash off the card. She did it as a cash advance from a debit card and I had to sign a little stub. There was no fee.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 07:18:47 PM
They should work at all three. The T&C's allow it. One thing to remember is MVD is having all kinds of problems with their card since it is a new product.
I registered the card online first and then after setting it up I went to the bank. Had no issues at all.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 07:19:19 PM
Having an account and depositing the funds into it will make the bank feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

They didn't seem to care. I told them to deposit it just because I would rather the cash be back into my account.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 21, 2012, 07:22:03 PM
This whole thing came about because I thought I made a mistake by buying the wrong vanilla card.  I wanted to get the cash back right away so I went to the bank. I figured that if I used the ATM, I would pay the $3 ATM fee for using a non-bank card and then I would be stuck with $7 on the card because you can only take in increments of $10.
So, I went to the teller and asked her if she could take the cash off the card. She did it as a cash advance from a debit card and I had to sign a little stub. There was no fee.

You didn't have to pay the $3 fee?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 07:23:39 PM
You didn't have to pay the $3 fee?

Nope. I paid nothing at the bank. The only fee I paid was to activate the cards.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 21, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
Nope. I paid nothing at the bank. The only fee I paid was to activate the cards.

You mean the 4.95 fee for buying them or something besides that?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 21, 2012, 07:26:07 PM
Nope. I paid nothing at the bank. The only fee I paid was to activate the cards.
MVD did not charge 1.95?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 07:34:25 PM
I think the load fee was $3.95 per card. No other fees at all were incurred during my "mistake".
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 21, 2012, 07:37:25 PM
I think the load fee was $3.95 per card. No other fees at all were incurred during my "mistake".

That's awesome. How much did you load?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 21, 2012, 07:39:35 PM
That's awesome. How much did you load?

I had 2 cards with $500 each.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: samsamsam on November 21, 2012, 09:29:05 PM
tried to purchase VR with a GC at 2 walgreens and a Cvs today. No luck. Cash Only. Any ideas on how to cash out the GC(Visa Vanilla Gift)?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mb on November 22, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
Is there a way to pay a car lease with blue bird?  What about maintenance on an apartment?  Can I setup for a check to be sent each month automatically?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 22, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
You can pay bills with BB (ie rent, car payments etc) but you cannot set it up automatically.  You need to initiate the payments each month.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 22, 2012, 09:25:32 PM
I went VR hunting today. 2 Rite Aids didnt have VR and any other VISA MC they let me swipe but the computer didnt let.  3 CVS completely dry. First walgreens they told me cash only second one no luck. Then i randomly went to a walgreens with no intention to get VR just needed something. Right there VR gave it try, boom, lets go for 2 no dice walked around a little, different worker let me load another I asked can I get another she said 1 per 24 hours. Lets see later tonight.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 23, 2012, 12:43:41 PM
I went to a different walgreens the lady rand up the VR and before she said anything I swiped by card it went throught then she told me no cc the screen gave me the option for cb and to complete my transaction. I'm a idiot because I told the lady I already swiped my card so I should have just press confirm and it would have went through instead she told me I need to press cancel because it won't go through. So she just pressed it herself.

What I realized from this is.  Just shmooze it up with the person by the register before you pay and when they ring up your VR before the screen says "cash only" (which is an inside job since if you swipe it will go through) swipe your card and hit confirm so your purchase goes through. And guess VR are not refundable so they can't take back the purchase.

 If someone wants to try this let us know what happens.  (If you can find them) 

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on November 23, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
Can someone tell me if the vanilla visa gift card or master card that you can load for $20-$500 is the vanilla reload card . And im assuming reload means I can use it more than once . It also cost 4.95
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: smurf on November 23, 2012, 01:33:25 PM
Can someone tell me if the vanilla visa gift card or master card that you can load for $20-$500 is the vanilla reload card . And im assuming reload means I can use it more than once . It also cost 4.95
not the reload
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on November 23, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
can you upload a picture
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 23, 2012, 01:39:01 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.msg337041#msg337041
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on November 23, 2012, 01:42:52 PM
much appreciated dan tx thanx thank you
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on November 25, 2012, 02:44:20 PM
Do any prepaid cards work like amex prepaid?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yeki89 on November 25, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
Does loading a GC always cost $2. Anyway around this fee?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: cozmohoot on November 25, 2012, 03:51:05 PM
Is there a cvs in bklyn with these???
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on November 25, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
"We are currently reviewing your registration information and you’ll hear from us in the next 48 hours. If you have any questions, please contact us by calling Customer Service at 1-877-486-5990."

Was I supposed to register without a card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 25, 2012, 06:18:25 PM
Was I supposed to register without a card?
I did.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on November 25, 2012, 06:19:31 PM
I did.
Did you get that message?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 25, 2012, 06:39:27 PM
Did you get that message?
No.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 25, 2012, 06:45:36 PM
paying chase cc bills with bb works?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 25, 2012, 06:59:10 PM
paying chase cc bills with bb works?
Yes.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2012, 12:35:10 AM
Any ideas how to cash out Visa GCs without AP?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 26, 2012, 08:28:04 AM
Any ideas how to cash out Visa GCs without AP?
No, how about you?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on November 26, 2012, 09:56:08 AM
Load vanilla reload in to BB and you can transfer money from there to your checking. Why do you want to bring vanilla reload to bank to get the money out?  Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 26, 2012, 09:58:58 AM
Load vanilla reload in to BB and you can transfer money from there to your checking.
Have you tried this?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on November 26, 2012, 10:06:56 AM
Have you tried this?
No yet. I maximized $5000 and paid my bills, mortgages, etc. I have to wait for next month to reload another $5000 -:).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 26, 2012, 10:44:32 AM
No yet.
IIRC this will not work. You can't ACH money out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on November 26, 2012, 10:53:11 AM
IIRC this will not work. You can't ACH money out.
It works. You can read it in million miles secrets, he tried it and it had step by step instructions.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on November 26, 2012, 11:09:00 AM
It works. You can read it in million miles secrets, he tried it and it had step by step instructions.
In that case, don't expect it to work for too much longer  :-X
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 26, 2012, 11:15:22 AM
IIRC this will not work. You can't ACH money out.

Correct that you can't ACH pull, but there is a bank transfer (ACH push) inside BB.   Probably best used sparingly.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on November 26, 2012, 11:37:06 AM
Correct that you can't ACH pull, but there is a bank transfer (ACH push) inside BB.   Probably best used sparingly.
Always use sparingly if you don't want to be shutdown.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 26, 2012, 12:13:26 PM
It works. You can read it in million miles secrets, he tried it and it had step by step instructions.
Did he have arrows and pictures?  >:(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: David S on November 26, 2012, 12:48:36 PM
Today I cashed out 3 MVD cards at a teller at my bank account and paid no fees whatsoever. Even the teller wasn't sure why. I had told her that I didn't want to use the ATM because I would be stuck with money on the card that I couldn't get off. She was more than happy to help.

I think she treated it as a cash advance from the MVD cards, pulled the cash, and deposited it straight into my checking account.

I'm thinking that $3.95 for $500 seems to be just as good as BB (other than having to go to the bank and wait for a teller). Any thoughts?

I found MVD cards at a CVS in NYC that allowed using a CC to purchase.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 26, 2012, 01:36:03 PM
Today I cashed out 3 MVD cards at a teller at my bank account and paid no fees whatsoever. I'm thinking that $3.95 for $500 seems to be just as good as BB (other than having to go to the bank and wait for a teller). Any thoughts?

I haven't done MVD but you do need to register the card (with your SSN and other identity info) first to get a PIN # and do this kind of transaction correct?   I would think MVD would eventually put a stop to continually churning cards like this on the same SSN.  Now if you can cash out the initial load this way without ever registering it then I'm all for it  :D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on November 26, 2012, 01:36:35 PM
Today I cashed out 3 MVD cards at a teller at my bank account and paid no fees whatsoever. Even the teller wasn't sure why. I had told her that I didn't want to use the ATM because I would be stuck with money on the card that I couldn't get off. She was more than happy to help.

I think she treated it as a cash advance from the MVD cards, pulled the cash, and deposited it straight into my checking account.

I'm thinking that $3.95 for $500 seems to be just as good as BB (other than having to go to the bank and wait for a teller). Any thoughts?

I found MVD cards at a CVS in NYC that allowed using a CC to purchase.
MVD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 26, 2012, 01:39:26 PM
MyVanillaDebit
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2012, 01:43:34 PM
Does this work with regular Visa GCs?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 26, 2012, 01:45:29 PM
Does this work with regular Visa GCs?
We all wish.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 26, 2012, 01:45:45 PM
Does this work with regular Visa GCs?

Dont think so but hey cant hurt to try
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 26, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
It says in the T&C that they can be redeemed for cash "when required by law."  Any idea when or where the law requires/allows this to happen?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 26, 2012, 03:25:55 PM
Today I cashed out 3 MVD cards at a teller at my bank account and paid no fees whatsoever. Even the teller wasn't sure why. I had told her that I didn't want to use the ATM because I would be stuck with money on the card that I couldn't get off. She was more than happy to help.

I think she treated it as a cash advance from the MVD cards, pulled the cash, and deposited it straight into my checking account.

I'm thinking that $3.95 for $500 seems to be just as good as BB (other than having to go to the bank and wait for a teller). Any thoughts?

I found MVD cards at a CVS in NYC that allowed using a CC to purchase.

Glad it worked for you too. Which bank did you use?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 26, 2012, 03:42:12 PM
Really odd:
I checked out MVD account online - it now shows a balance of ($500.50)
Looks like there is supposed to be a fee of $0.50 - preauthorization fee.

How are they going to collect the $0.50? Shouldn't the account show balance of $0 or ($0.50)?

I wonder if the temporary hold never came off the card after the transaction was processed and this is what is causing the negative $500.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yosefchaim on November 26, 2012, 07:20:43 PM
I didn't read the whole thread, I just want to now if they pull your credit when applying for the BlueBird as they do ask for your S.S.#?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 26, 2012, 07:28:07 PM
No credit pull.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yosefchaim on November 26, 2012, 07:45:56 PM
No credit pull.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: David S on November 26, 2012, 10:12:55 PM
Glad it worked for you too. Which bank did you use?

Chase.

At a local Family Dollar they have a different type of VR cards (same front, but only a barcode on the back) that you can only use to reload MVD cards with. I will try it tomorrow to see if I can reload with a CC. Since the MVD cards are already registered, I shouldn't have to interact with MVD again - so hopefully they won't see it as churning.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PETERP on November 27, 2012, 12:58:01 AM
Take MV debit card to the bank and get cash.

MV? My vanilla?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 27, 2012, 10:42:49 AM
MV? My vanilla?

Yup
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 27, 2012, 10:46:42 AM
Today I cashed out 3 MVD cards at a teller at my bank account and paid no fees whatsoever. Even the teller wasn't sure why. I had told her that I didn't want to use the ATM because I would be stuck with money on the card that I couldn't get off. She was more than happy to help.

I think she treated it as a cash advance from the MVD cards, pulled the cash, and deposited it straight into my checking account.

I'm thinking that $3.95 for $500 seems to be just as good as BB (other than having to go to the bank and wait for a teller). Any thoughts?

I found MVD cards at a CVS in NYC that allowed using a CC to purchase.

Did the bank keep your cards?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: PETERP on November 27, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
Yup


Thanks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: David S on November 27, 2012, 01:31:25 PM
Did the bank keep your cards?

No. They are reloadable. Checked again today and Chase has processed the deposited and I already used the funds to pay the CC bill.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 27, 2012, 01:33:01 PM
No. They are reloadable. Checked again today and Chase has processed the deposited and I already used the funds to pay the CC bill.

So odd. Because when I did it again today, the teller would not give me back the cards. She said that since they did a cash advance the cards were hers.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on November 27, 2012, 01:46:47 PM
What is MVD?

Really odd:
I checked out MVD account online - it now shows a balance of ($500.50)
Looks like there is supposed to be a fee of $0.50 - preauthorization fee.

How are they going to collect the $0.50? Shouldn't the account show balance of $0 or ($0.50)?

I wonder if the temporary hold never came off the card after the transaction was processed and this is what is causing the negative $500.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 27, 2012, 03:34:40 PM
What is MVD?

MyVanillaDebit
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: David S on November 28, 2012, 12:28:21 AM
So odd. Because when I did it again today, the teller would not give me back the cards. She said that since they did a cash advance the cards were hers.

I didn't really talk about it with the teller. But when I got home, I saw that the deposit was still pending (it posted and cleared the next day), so by right, I believe, I should receive the cards back in case something goes bad.

After I cashed the cards out, I checked the MVD website and it says I have a ($0.50) balance on each. I guess they should have thought about that before releasing the money ...

I tried to reload the MVD cards with the "alternative VR" cards at Family Dollar, but their registers would only allow using cash or debit cards. The manager didn't really understand why that should be so, but there was nothing he could do.

Anybody know if MVD keeps the SSN on file? Or just uses it to check against some database when you sign up? Any limit to the number that I could register in my name? (The local CVS sells the MVD via CC, but has not VR option).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 28, 2012, 10:26:07 AM
Interesting note: When attempting to use 'bill pay' to pay things like electricity ; life insurance, BB asks for the zip code as appears on your bill This is not your zip code rather the billing company's zip code...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 28, 2012, 10:27:08 AM
Interesting note: When attempting to use 'bill pay' to pay things like electricity ; life insurance, BB asks for the zip code as appears on your bill This is not your zip code rather the billing company's zip code...

Never heard of this before...
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on November 28, 2012, 10:27:12 AM
Interesting note: When attempting to use 'bill pay' to pay things like electricity ; life insurance, BB asks for the zip code as appears on your bill This is not your zip code rather the billing company's zip code...

Wow. No wonder why it never worked to link my FPL bill.

Thank you for that info!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 28, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
Wow. No wonder why it never worked to link my FPL bill.

Thank you for that info!!
  Ha I just initiated an FPL payment. Billing zip code is: 33188-0001  8)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on November 28, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
Never heard of this before...
Really? If you add your own zip code, it doesn't work. That will remind you to try payee's zip code.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on November 28, 2012, 11:22:33 AM
  Ha I just initiated an FPL payment. Billing zip code is: 33188-0001  8)
I like your little girl pic. -:)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on November 28, 2012, 11:26:44 AM
I like your little girl pic. -:)
Thanx  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on November 29, 2012, 02:08:07 AM
Today I cashed out 3 MVD cards at a teller at my bank account and paid no fees whatsoever. Even the teller wasn't sure why. I had told her that I didn't want to use the ATM because I would be stuck with money on the card that I couldn't get off. She was more than happy to help.

I think she treated it as a cash advance from the MVD cards, pulled the cash, and deposited it straight into my checking account.

I'm thinking that $3.95 for $500 seems to be just as good as BB (other than having to go to the bank and wait for a teller). Any thoughts?

I found MVD cards at a CVS in NYC that allowed using a CC to purchase.

Were these the temporary MVD cards you buy off the rack and load in the store?  Or the permanent ones they mail later?  If the temp ones from the store,  do you have to register first online?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: David S on November 29, 2012, 01:31:01 PM
Were these the temporary MVD cards you buy off the rack and load in the store?  Or the permanent ones they mail later?  If the temp ones from the store,  do you have to register first online?

These were the temporary ones. I registered them first.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on November 29, 2012, 03:09:40 PM
These were the temporary ones. I registered them first.

Doesn't registering them trigger the process whereby they send you the permanent ones, and... you need to pay the monthly charge for the cards?  I believe you are charged a dormancy fee of $3.95 a month unless you actively close the account. Does anyone have any personal experience with this?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 29, 2012, 03:19:43 PM
Doesn't registering them trigger the process whereby they send you the permanent ones, and... you need to pay the monthly charge for the cards?  I believe you are charged a dormancy fee of $3.95 a month unless you actively close the account. Does anyone have any personal experience with this?

Once the balance is 0 I believe they don't charge the inactivity fee.  I imagine registering new cards repeatedly on the same SSN is probably going to get some negative attention from MyVanilla...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 29, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
Seems Im getting on the bandwaggon pretty late.  just made a BB acct.
Is it possible to deposit from VR to BB before my BB card arrives in ten days or so?

.....assuming i manage by some miracle to find VR cards somewhere for sale with CC
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yehoshua on November 29, 2012, 11:40:14 PM
Unfortunately there is not.  I had the same question a few weeks ago, but not to worry- you can always buy VR cards in advance and deposit them on BB when it comes (mine only took 1 week).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 29, 2012, 11:43:22 PM
 :(
Rent's due in 5 days and I just realized that the SW RR visa i just got has a min spend of 2k for the signup bonus.  I hadn't paid attention to that.  last time it was first spend of any amount.
Oh Well.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye out for MVD and deposit into checking account at the bank.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 01:19:53 AM
So can you do a CA on a MVD before registering it?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 30, 2012, 01:23:43 AM
I'm just getting my feet wet, I assume based on your question that the card needs to be registered before a CA. Is that an issue?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 01:39:44 AM
I'm just getting my feet wet, I assume based on your question that the card needs to be registered before a CA. Is that an issue?
If I knew the answer I would not have asked.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 30, 2012, 01:48:29 AM
 :-\
Sorry. Assumed it was 'rhetorical'.
I have no idea, but after reading this whole discussion it sounds like VR are hard to come by with cc in NYC and in thinking that MVD might be easier to come by.

If the MVD does need to be registered, is it an issue?  Should I not just go ahead and get 2k worth if I can find them?  A few people here reported using them for CAs with no fees.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 07:31:28 AM
So can you do a CA on a MVD before registering it?

No. Just tried got declined.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 30, 2012, 07:56:06 AM
Does the fact the the MVD needs to be registered before a CA present any issues i should be aware of?
Is the a reason that I shouldnt go buy 2k worth on my SW card if i can find them, register them, and cash out?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 08:02:42 AM
Does the fact the the MVD needs to be registered before a CA present any issues i should be aware of?
Is the a reason that I shouldnt go buy 2k worth on my SW card if i can find them, register them, and cash out?

Not sure. But FYI you need to register you SSN. So split 1k for each.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 30, 2012, 08:09:08 AM
Not sure. But FYI you need to register you SSN. So split 1k for each.

So MVD doesn't come in a max $500 per card like VR.... (Wasn't aware. Thank you)

Why split them into 2 x 1k as opposed to 1x 2k?  Just to stay low key?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 30, 2012, 08:24:54 AM
So MVD doesn't come in a max $500 per card like VR.... (Wasn't aware. Thank you)

Why split them into 2 x 1k as opposed to 1x 2k?  Just to stay low key?

It has a max initial $500 load when you purchase it.  Not quite sure what MEIR613 was trying to say.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
It has a max initial $500 load when you purchase it.  Not quite sure what MEIR613 was trying to say.

Sorry for the un clearnes. I meant 2 peolple = 2 cards each(1k) = 2k 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on November 30, 2012, 09:46:48 AM
@David s
Which bank was it that cashed out your MVD's?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 10:12:12 AM
@saver2000

I did Chase and BOA
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 30, 2012, 11:07:21 AM
@saver2000

I did Chase and BOA

I have done Citi
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 11:12:18 AM
I have done Citi

Seems like all banks can do it. I dont think you have to have account there either. Cant tell you forsure since I have in BOA and Chase. But they didnt use any of my info
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 30, 2012, 11:20:54 AM
Ate MVDs easier to find than VRs?

I see Ty can be ordered online at https://www.myvanilladebitcard.com.
Does anyone know how long they take to arrive in Brooklyn? 
Do they still have a limit of $500 per card?
Anything else I should be aware of re: ordering a card online vs. buying in a store?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on November 30, 2012, 11:22:15 AM
we don't have any cvs's in Denver, where are some places i might find MVD's for sale that would take cc?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
we don't have any cvs's in Denver, where are some places i might find MVD's for sale that would take cc?
Have you checked OD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 11:29:36 AM
we don't have any cvs's in Denver, where are some places i might find MVD's for sale that would take cc?

Walgreens, Family Dollar, Rite Aid
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 11:44:22 AM
Walgreens, Family Dollar, Rite Aid
Does OD not carry the MVD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 11:49:41 AM
Does OD not carry the MVD?

Dont know no OD near me
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
Does OD not carry the MVD?
Nope, now lets move on.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
Nope, now lets move on.  ;)
Lol...so that was you doing $50K in CA at the back and talking about flying to Hawaii in first class for free ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 12:03:06 PM
Lol...so that was you doing $50K in CA at the back and talking about flying to Hawaii in first class for free ;D
What are you a mind reader? DW this morning just picked dates in March for six. Not sure I can swing it but I am going to look into it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 12:11:05 PM
What are you a mind reader? DW this morning just picked dates in March for six. Not sure I can swing it but I am going to look into it.
BusinessFirst is 80K UR->UA, GlobalFirst is 100K UR>UA (both are 70K is booked via US to fly on UA)
Grand Hyatt Kauai, 2 free suite nights via Hyatt cc (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/) (gotta get gold first from a card like Hilton Reserve (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/HiltonReserve/) to match to Hyatt Diamond) and 5 more nights in the same suite via 110K UR>Hyatt.
You'll have the time of your life.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 12:21:02 PM
BusinessFirst is 80K UR->UA, GlobalFirst is 100K UR>UA (both are 70K is booked via US to fly on UA)
Grand Hyatt Kauai, 2 free suite nights via Hyatt cc (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/Hyatt/) (gotta get gold first from a card like Hilton Reserve (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/HiltonReserve/) to match to Hyatt Diamond) and 5 more nights in the same suite via 110K UR>Hyatt.
You'll have the time of your life.
Wow, info is much appreciated. Flights look like no problem with Bold/Plus. Need to look into hotel if points or high CB cards are better.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on November 30, 2012, 12:25:54 PM
Wow, info is much appreciated. Flights look like no problem with Bold/Plus. Need to look into hotel if points or high CB cards are better.

Sprinkle some holy waters on him, and he'll be praying to the mileage gods going forward :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 12:27:23 PM
Wow, info is much appreciated. Flights look like no problem with Bold/Plus. Need to look into hotel if points or high CB cards are better.
If you want a suite ($$$$) then the Hilton/Hyatt match method is the way to go.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
Sprinkle some holy waters on him, and he'll be praying to the mileage gods going forward :)
Lets not go that far. I don't think the mileage gods can put new cars (yes cars) in my driveway but I love to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
If you want a suite ($$$$) then the Hilton/Hyatt match method is the way to go.
Thanks, Hilton gold is no problem.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
Lets not go that far. I don't think the mileage gods can put new cars (yes cars) in my driveway but I love to be proven wrong.
I guarantee you that many people are driving luxury cars on this forum from miles.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 12:39:15 PM
If you want a suite ($$$$) then the Hilton/Hyatt match method is the way to go.
Are suites big enough for six?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on November 30, 2012, 12:40:16 PM
Are suites big enough for six?

No.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 12:41:37 PM
I guarantee you that many people are driving luxury cars on this forum from miles.
I am sure there are. The learning curve is just way up there (same for CB) and so little time.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 12:43:08 PM
Are suites big enough for six?
If you bring sleeping bags there's space :D
There's a dining room/living room/small kitchen area, large balcony, and a bedroom.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 12:50:19 PM
Sorry for the OT. I really do appreciate the help/suggestions. Looks like two suites then.

Now back to your regular program. Need to find the limit on how many MVD’s you can have.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on November 30, 2012, 01:26:16 PM
Sorry for the OT. I really do appreciate the help/suggestions. Looks like two suites then.

Now back to your regular program. Need to find the limit on how many MVD’s you can have.

You can take a poll as to how many people already have.
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Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on November 30, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
You can take a poll as to how many people already have.
4
Do you reload them or just buy new ones?
Are ODs in NYC stocking these?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: YG on November 30, 2012, 01:53:03 PM
I notice the emphasis on buying MVDs in stores.
Is the point I was missing that you can't buy them online from the website with a CC?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on November 30, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
Are the vanilla reload’s now called MyVanillaDebit cards. Can I use my amex to buy either, if the store allows it . Then to get the money I use the card,cards to load BB and then transfer money from there to my checking. And repeat ?
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 02:49:46 PM
Here's the breakdown:
You can buy MVD in stores up to $500. In the package they give you your temporary card.  In order to use the card you have to register the card (confirmed) with all your info including ssn. When you activate the card they will send you you a permanent card which you can load up with VR(that's what it says on their website). So I feel even if you get VR better to load this card then BB since these you can CA but that doesn't really make a difference.  The million dollar question is how many of these can you buy......

Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: smurf on November 30, 2012, 02:50:11 PM
Are the vanilla reload’s now called MyVanillaDebit cards. Can I use my amex to buy either, if the store allows it . Then to get the money I use the card,cards to load BB and then transfer money from there to my checking. And repeat ?
vanilla reload isn't my vanilla debit
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on November 30, 2012, 02:59:46 PM
Here's the breakdown:
You can buy MVD in stores up to $500. In the package they give you your temporary card.  In order to use the card you have to register the card (confirmed) with all your info including ssn. When you activate the card they will send you you a permanent card which you can load up with VR(that's what it says on their website). So I feel even if you get VR better to load this card then BB since these you can CA but that doesn't really make a difference.  The million dollar question is how many of these can you buy......

Good summary...

The other question is.... once registered online, the permanent cards come with a monthly fee, even if not used.  Do you need to turn around and actively close these cards to avoid the monthly "dormancy" fee?

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 30, 2012, 03:34:54 PM
When you activate the card they will send you you a permanent card which you can load up with VR...

Note that you can also load the temporary card with VRs as well.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
Note that you can also load the temporary card with VRs as well.

Thanks. I was just trying to shed some light on the topic since it seemed that lots of people were confused

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on November 30, 2012, 03:41:21 PM
Good summary...

The other question is.... once registered online, the permanent cards come with a monthly fee, even if not used.  Do you need to turn around and actively close these cards to avoid the monthly "dormancy" fee?

I think someone posted that if the balance is zero than there's no fee. But if anyone can confirm that please do.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on November 30, 2012, 03:42:57 PM
I think someone posted that if the balance is zero than there's no fee. But if anyone can confirm that please do.

From their cardholder agreement: "Anytime your remaining Card Account balance is less than the fee amount being assessed, the balance of your Card Account will be applied to the fee amount resulting in a zero balance on your Card Account."
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on November 30, 2012, 03:46:32 PM
what is vr and can someone upload a pic of MVD card ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on November 30, 2012, 03:46:39 PM
I think someone posted that if the balance is zero than there's no fee. But if anyone can confirm that please do.


Some people have reported that doing the CA results in a fee of .50 cents show up online as a balance on their card, I wonder how this is handled going forward, and does that small balance activate the dormancy fee?  If anyone has experience please weigh in. 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on November 30, 2012, 05:23:40 PM
Thanks. I was just trying to shed some light on the topic since it seemed that lots of people were confused
"A" for effort but it will not help. You could have a spot light and some will still not get it.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: JayBerns on December 02, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
Just stopped by my local CVS on an errand and no Vanilla Reloads.  When I asked in the store, the manager said they were recalled and are likely not carrying them again.  They only had the OneVanilla prepaid Visa card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 02, 2012, 10:57:49 AM
They only had the OneVanilla prepaid Visa card.
Cash advance possible?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: JayBerns on December 02, 2012, 11:00:29 AM
Potentially.  They also had $4 CVS bucks back if you buy 2 prepaid Visa's, so that reduces the startup cost.  (Can get 2x$500 for $10, with $4 back if you're a frequent CVS shopper).  Not in the store anymore, but will try and report back if I end up there later.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 02, 2012, 11:28:13 AM
went to Walgreens in Brooklyn and they had two vanilla reloadsleft but the cashier said I can only load it up by paying cash
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on December 02, 2012, 12:17:18 PM
Cash advance possible?

PIN debit transactions are not supported on OneVanillas (unlike MyVanillas).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
PIN debit transactions are not supported on OneVanillas (unlike MyVanillas).
IIRC no PIN is needed for CA at a bank.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 02, 2012, 03:26:26 PM
IIRC no PIN is needed for CA at a bank.
Has anyone tried a OV card then for bank CA?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 02, 2012, 03:47:20 PM
IIRC no PIN is needed for CA at a bank.

+1. So dans saying maybe any GC cards CA. I'm starting to like this:)

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eitang on December 02, 2012, 04:00:27 PM
Just went to a CVS out in Arizona and they had a ton of vanilla reloads. When I wanted to put them on my CC they said that they are now only taking cash as "they got hit hard last season with stolen credit cards"...somethin like that. Just a heads up.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2012, 04:16:36 PM
+1. So dans saying maybe any GC cards CA. I'm starting to like this:)
Not going to speak for Dan but I don't think he is saying that.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 02, 2012, 04:30:19 PM
Has anyone tried a OV card then for bank CA?

Whats OV? If it is what I think it is then whats the difference between OV and GC? dont they work the same?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2012, 04:34:44 PM
If someone has both the MVD & OV GC please look at the first 6 numbers on the cards and see if they are the same.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on December 02, 2012, 05:59:12 PM
+1. So dans saying maybe any GC cards CA. I'm starting to like this:)

There was a thread awhile back on FW about this, it definitely isn't a universal thing.  In fact people confirmed it's a fail with Vanilla Visas.  OneVanilla is pretty much an identical product from what I can see, but you never know - sometimes the best deals are found when you try something that isn't supposed to work  ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 02, 2012, 06:34:42 PM
IIRC no PIN is needed for CA at a bank.
Good to know. I will try OV tomorrow. Will report back.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2012, 07:00:42 PM
Good to know. I will try OV tomorrow. Will report back.  :)
I don’t want to give the impression that I think it will work. If it does work I would not post about it but you can PM me.   ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 02, 2012, 09:35:08 PM
Sorry for the ignorance. What is OV?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 02, 2012, 09:45:07 PM
OneVanilla GC
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 02, 2012, 09:47:44 PM
OneVanilla GC
why ty
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on December 03, 2012, 11:29:12 AM
The cvs near me has it.
All it needs to be is a vanilla visa gift card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 11:44:15 AM
All it needs to be is a vanilla visa gift card?
To do what?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on December 03, 2012, 11:47:13 AM
To do what?
To fund bluebird. Is there only one vanilla card?
And does this work on amex?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 03, 2012, 11:52:41 AM
To fund bluebird. Is there only one vanilla card?
And does this work on amex?
OV does not work to fund bluebird ::)
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on December 03, 2012, 11:56:08 AM
OV does not work to fund bluebird ::)
Im in cvs its called vanilla reload? Safe to buy it with amex?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
you are getting confused.
OneVanilla = GC
MyVanilla = DC
Vanilla Reload = To reload MyVanilla or BB.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
Im in cvs its called vanilla reload? Safe to buy it with amex?
yes
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on December 03, 2012, 12:01:41 PM
So I want my vanilla?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 03, 2012, 12:03:16 PM
So I want my vanilla?

vanilla RELOAD
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
So I want my vanilla?
If you want to load to the Amex BB card you want the Vanilla Reload.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 03, 2012, 12:06:28 PM
So I want my vanilla?

No. you want VR if they have if not then MVD can work and im not sure about OV but it for sure works via Ap
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
Is it just me?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 03, 2012, 12:08:33 PM
Is it just me?

Feel the same way
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on December 03, 2012, 12:09:29 PM
So the ones they have are one vanilla reloads I guess that's no good
Thanks for the help though
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 12:13:21 PM
Can someone link to the picture Dan posted? PLEASE!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 03, 2012, 12:13:44 PM
Can someone link to the picture Dan posted? PLEASE!!!
im trying
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 03, 2012, 12:15:43 PM
here you go
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 12:17:41 PM
here you go
THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 03, 2012, 04:34:08 PM
Can one cash out vanilla visa gift cards on ap?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 03, 2012, 04:38:19 PM
Can one cash out vanilla visa gift cards on ap?
Yes

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 03, 2012, 05:16:59 PM
Yes
you did it yourself?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 05:21:36 PM
you did it yourself?
I know you were not asking me but the answer is yes.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 03, 2012, 05:22:44 PM
I know you were not asking me but the answer is yes.
vanilla visa card max is 1k?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 03, 2012, 05:25:43 PM
vanilla visa card max is 1k?
500 at a time


Lets get this straight any GC that has a visa/mastercard logo you can can cash out via AP  PERIOD
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 03, 2012, 05:54:25 PM
500 at a time


Lets get this straight any GC that has a visa/mastercard logo you can can cash out via AP  PERIOD
thanx was getting thrown off by the $20-$500 detail...was looking more like a reload O0
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 03, 2012, 05:56:25 PM
thanx was getting thrown off by the $20-$500 detail...was looking more like a reload O0
One time load only. This does get confusing.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on December 03, 2012, 10:27:47 PM
Did anybody add money to their BB Amex at Walmart did they allow with cc? Was it like a cash advance on your credit card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2012, 12:12:25 AM
Has anyone confirmed that you get the $5 extra bucks this week at CVS for buying 2xMVD?
Any update on the negative $0.50 balance on that card after doing a CA? 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 04, 2012, 01:10:15 AM
Has anyone confirmed that you get the $5 extra bucks this week at CVS for buying 2xMVD?
Any update on the negative $0.50 balance on that card after doing a CA? 

Linky please?

@Dan/HelpMe, did CA work for you guys? Did you need to have an account at said bank?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2012, 01:15:18 AM
Linky please?

@Dan/HelpMe, did CA work for you guys? Did you need to have an account at said bank?
It's in the CVS weekly ad, page 8.
I have not bought an MVD yet.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 04, 2012, 01:16:17 AM
I have not bought an MVD yet.

Has CA been confirmed widely, or just by one guy (i.e. possibly a flukish stroke of luck)?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 04, 2012, 01:19:46 AM
@Dan/HelpMe, did CA work for you guys? Did you need to have an account at said bank?
To much work for me be but I will say I am convinced it works.  ;)  You don't need an account but it couldn't hurt. I would make one suggestion. Do the CA for 499.50 so the account is not at a -.50.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2012, 01:20:49 AM
To much work for me be but I will say I am convinced it works.  ;)  You don't need an account but it couldn't hurt. I would make one suggestion. Do the CA for 499.50 so the account is at a -.50.
Do you think they'll come after you for the .50?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AsherO on December 04, 2012, 01:21:31 AM
To much work for me be but I will say I am convinced it works.  ;)  You don't need an account but it couldn't hurt. I would make one suggestion. Do the CA for 499.50 so the account is not at a -.50.

So they don't catch on?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 04, 2012, 01:24:14 AM
Do you think they'll come after you for the .50?
If you do this on a large scale you could open yourself up to intent to commit fraud. Why mess around for .50? I am also making the assumption that anyone doing this on a large scale will not be using real info.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 04, 2012, 01:50:14 AM
I did 2 MVD so I'm gonna try real hard to find some VR and load them up and then do a CA for 499 to get the balance +.50

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on December 04, 2012, 09:54:18 AM
If you do this on a large scale you could open yourself up to intent to commit fraud. Why mess around for .50? I am also making the assumption that anyone doing this on a large scale will not be using real info.

I agree - although not using real info kinda seals the deal in terms of committing fraud, no? 8)   I have heard stories with other prepaids that if your SSN/name/info doesn't verify the account will be held up and you may be asked to fax in proof of identity, unless you can cash out before then.  Might not be worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 04, 2012, 10:00:01 AM
If you do this on a large scale you could open yourself up to intent to commit fraud. Why mess around for .50? I am also making the assumption that anyone doing this on a large scale will not be using real info.
when u sign up do they not verify the info using ur ss#
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 04, 2012, 10:12:57 AM
I agree - although not using real info kinda seals the deal in terms of committing fraud, no? 8)
Good question but I think it would be fraud but does violate the T&C's.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 04, 2012, 10:14:02 AM
when u sign up do they not verify the info using ur ss#
Not sure.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: lifetimedeals on December 04, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
Anybody load BB Amex at Walmart did they allow with cc? Was it like a cash advance on your credit card? Thanks.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 04, 2012, 01:29:30 PM
One time load only. This does get confusing.
So do I have to register it at vanillavisa.com before cashing it out at ap like any other internet purchase?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on December 04, 2012, 01:33:50 PM
Nope.

For VR, you just need to sign up and receive a Bluebird card...

For MVD (MyVanilla Debit card), you can sign up at www.myvanilladebitcard.com with your MVD (from CVS) card# to activate and get cash.

I've Done both-
  Plan A: VR
  Plan B: MVD
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 04, 2012, 01:45:21 PM
Nope.

For VR, you just need to sign up and receive a Bluebird card...

For MVD (MyVanilla Debit card), you can sign up at www.myvanilladebitcard.com with your MVD (from CVS) card# to activate and get cash.

I've Done both-
  Plan A: VR
  Plan B: MVD
I was talking about Vanilla Visa Gift card from OD...
UPDATE: I registered them at vanillavisa.com and cashed them out with ap no problem. BTW when you go to vanillavisa.com on the right side you enter your card info and then the next page theres the option to 'register' your card which is basically to update a zip code...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 04, 2012, 02:05:18 PM
I was talking about Vanilla Visa Gift card from OD...
UPDATE: I registered them at vanillavisa.com and cashed them out with ap no problem. BTW when you go to vanillavisa.com on the right side you enter your card info and then the next page theres the option to 'register' your card which is basically to update a zip code...
Is cash out better option than using on AP?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 04, 2012, 02:07:36 PM
Is cash out better option than using on AP?
"Cash out" is figure of speech. I 'sent money' and choose "Goods/Services"
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 04, 2012, 02:09:16 PM
"Cash out" is figure of speech. I 'sent money' and choose "Goods/Services"

Got it, thanks  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 04, 2012, 02:56:53 PM
I don’t want to give the impression that I think it will work. If it does work I would not post about it but you can PM me.   ;D
It doesn't work, I tried.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 04, 2012, 05:24:16 PM
can someone please confirm if this card is the one that cvs is giving $ 10 back and that you can do a ca at the bank
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 04, 2012, 05:41:43 PM
I am so very confusioned.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 04, 2012, 05:58:58 PM
It doesn't work, I tried.  :)
I understand.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 04, 2012, 05:59:43 PM
can someone please confirm if this card is the one that cvs is giving $ 10 back and that you can do a ca at the bank
No CA at the bank.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on December 04, 2012, 06:07:09 PM
Whats all the "fraud alerts" about- its my cash against their t&c thats fraud?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 04, 2012, 06:09:42 PM
What "fraud alerts" you talking about.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 04, 2012, 06:14:37 PM
someone was mentioning they were getting a cash advance at the bank and is that the card that I uploaded that we are talking about tx
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 04, 2012, 06:35:15 PM
someone was mentioning they were getting a cash advance at the bank and is that the card that I uploaded that we are talking about tx

no
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 04, 2012, 09:26:56 PM
I did 2 MVD so I'm gonna try real hard to find some VR and load them up and then do a CA for 499 to get the balance +.50

So I got hold of 2 VR(only 2 were left) so the right move is to load each one onto my MVD and CA each card for 499? Is that gonna be a problem? The CA part I'm not worried about since I got the cards in the mail with my name on it. Its the 499 part? Or just forget it and let there be a -.50 balance?

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on December 04, 2012, 10:59:39 PM
Not sure if i should post it here or start a new thread, but i bought some vr's with my cc, i can now cash them out wth my bb, but would have no problem selling it to someone else, and u can pay me via paypal or ap, and therefore be able to use  ur credit card to buy it as well, however if thru paypall buyer must cover fees. (i dont mind loosing the 3.95 fee per card, but not willing to loose more.) pm me if u r interested
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 04, 2012, 11:00:37 PM
got the wrong cards I spoke with a rep and she told me the most you can load on to a mvd is 500 per day and at any given time you cannot have more than 10,000k on it you can use it at the atm. Don't get the visa gift card because it's not the my vanilla debt card I am going to upload the visa gift card so you guys don't make the same mistake I did , also you cannot with draw money from this gift card at the atm. 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 04, 2012, 11:09:58 PM
got the wrong cards I spoke with a rep and she told me the most you can load on to a mvd is 500 per day and at any given time you cannot have more than 10,000k on it you can use it at the atm. Don't get the visa gift card because it's not the my vanilla debt card I am going to upload the visa gift card so you guys don't make the same mistake I did , also you cannot with draw money from this gift card at the atm.

Did you try to withdraw it via a bank teller? Ask them to make a cash advance. Let us know what happens.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 04, 2012, 11:13:13 PM
Not sure if i should post it here or start a new thread, but i bought some vr's with my cc, i can now cash them out wth my bb, but would have no problem selling it to someone else, and u can pay me via paypal or ap, and therefore be able to use  ur credit card to buy it as well, however if thru paypall buyer must cover fees. (i dont mind loosing the 3.95 fee per card, but not willing to loose more.) pm me if u r interested

Just curious can't anyone buy a visa GC and cash out AP so why would someone make a purchase with CC via AP if he could just buy a GC and swipe at a store and not worry FR/AA just a thought, but hey its nice of you to offer.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on December 04, 2012, 11:39:36 PM
Just curious can't anyone buy a visa GC and cash out AP so why would someone make a purchase with CC via AP if he could just buy a GC and swipe at a store and not worry FR/AA just a thought, but hey its nice of you to offer.
i dont carewhat kind of card you pay with, or even if u pay cash
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 05, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
When I register on www.myvanilladebitcard.com, it ends up sign an account and tell me that my permanently card will arrive
in mail.  I don't want a permanently card, which step did I did wrong?


Nope.

For VR, you just need to sign up and receive a Bluebird card...

For MVD (MyVanilla Debit card), you can sign up at www.myvanilladebitcard.com with your MVD (from CVS) card# to activate and get cash.

I've Done both-
  Plan A: VR
  Plan B: MVD
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 05, 2012, 10:20:01 AM
got the wrong cards I spoke with a rep and she told me the most you can load on to a mvd is 500 per day and at any given time you cannot have more than 10,000k on it you can use it at the atm. Don't get the visa gift card because it's not the my vanilla debt card I am going to upload the visa gift card so you guys don't make the same mistake I did , also you cannot with draw money from this gift card at the atm.
she is mistaken, I was told that too by one rep. but a second one said it's 5 loads per day and so it says in the t&c without a mention of a $ limit. Worked fine for me doing more than 500.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 05, 2012, 10:41:25 AM
These were the temporary ones. I registered them first.
David, how many temporary ones a person can register? Do you have one online account for each of temporary ones? Will you get permanently one for each of you temporary card? Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 05, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
David, how many temporary ones a person can register? Do you have one online account for each of temporary ones? Will you get permanently one for each of you temporary card? Thanks!
I know this wasn't @ me but I got 2 MVD and got 2 permanent cards

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on December 05, 2012, 11:15:06 AM
Did you try to withdraw it via a bank teller? Ask them to make a cash advance. Let us know what happens.

Yes - I've been successful in receiving cash at the bank from my registered $500 MVD.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 05, 2012, 11:19:30 AM
I know this wasn't @ me but I got 2 MVD and got 2 permanent cards
@meri613, Thanks for the info. Did you register both in your name? If both are in your name, one or two online accounts?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 05, 2012, 11:37:40 AM
Just curious can't anyone buy a visa GC and cash out AP so why would someone make a purchase with CC via AP if he could just buy a GC and swipe at a store and not worry FR/AA just a thought, but hey its nice of you to offer.
I'm glad to see you're catching on   ;)

There are many reasons why people buy gc's. One of the reasons is as you stated - to avoid FR/AA.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 05, 2012, 11:38:57 AM
I don't want a permanently card, which step did I did wrong?
You did nothing wrong. Just the way it works.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 05, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
@meri613, Thanks for the info. Did you register both in your name? If both are in your name, one or two online accounts?
I have 4 registered under 1 name. I did not receive the permanent cards yet, but all cards are already cashed out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Devorah on December 05, 2012, 01:08:09 PM
Can someone post a pic of the MVD card?
Thanx
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 05, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
I have 4 registered under 1 name. I did not receive the permanent cards yet, but all cards are already cashed out.
Thanks for the info. Do you think it is good idea to load it with VR cards, then cash out in bigger amount?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 05, 2012, 01:36:07 PM
So I got hold of 2 VR(only 2 were left) so the right move is to load each one onto my MVD and CA each card for 499? Is that gonna be a problem? The CA part I'm not worried about since I got the cards in the mail with my name on it. Its the 499 part? Or just forget it and let there be a -.50 balance?

So I loaded 1 MVD with VR. CA for 499. Worked like a gem:)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 05, 2012, 01:44:49 PM

So I loaded 1 MVD with VR. CA for 499. Worked like a gem:)

What's the balance now, .50? or 0.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 05, 2012, 03:55:50 PM
Has anyone bought VR by credit card at the WalMart in Severance Circle in Cleveland Heights? If yes, where can they be found in the store? (I will not be going there myself, so I would need to explain in vivid detail to someone who's never done something like this.)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 05, 2012, 04:03:09 PM
Has anyone bought VR by credit card at the WalMart in Severance Circle in Cleveland Heights? If yes, where can they be found in the store? (I will not be going there myself, so I would need to explain in vivid detail to someone who's never done something like this.)
AFAIK Walmart doesn't sell VR cards. You can loads funds directly on to your bb at the register.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 05, 2012, 04:06:21 PM

So I loaded 1 MVD with VR. CA for 499. Worked like a gem:)

right now the balance is .50 but the transaction is pending so it might need to clear to be charged the .50 fee
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 05, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
right now the balance is .50 but the transaction is pending so it might need to clear to be charged the .50 fee

All of mine still have negative balances shown.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 05, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
All of mine still have negative balances shown.

you loaded it with VR
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 05, 2012, 04:20:57 PM
you loaded it with VR

Nope.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 05, 2012, 04:22:36 PM
Nope.
There you go
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 05, 2012, 04:28:28 PM
AFAIK Walmart doesn't sell VR cards. You can loads funds directly on to your bb at the register.
By credit card? And would I need to have my physical bb card with me?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 05, 2012, 04:34:40 PM
There you go

But is this an issue or just a system glitch on their part?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 05, 2012, 04:37:48 PM
By credit card? And would I need to have my physical bb card with me?
My local walmart wasn't able to do it with a cc, but a maybe another can.
I believe they need the physical card in order to do it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 05, 2012, 04:46:32 PM
OK thanks. So if WM doesn't work, what other stores in Cleveland (Heights preferably) can I send her to?

[Don't worry about me using up your own resource, I don't live there.]
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 05, 2012, 06:27:17 PM
By credit card?
No
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 05, 2012, 07:01:23 PM
OK thanks. So if WM doesn't work, what other stores in Cleveland (Heights preferably) can I send her to?

[Don't worry about me using up your own resource, I don't live there.]
::)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 05, 2012, 08:09:46 PM
Where is the closest place in Lakewood to buy reload cards?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 05, 2012, 10:00:38 PM
OK thanks. So if WM doesn't work, what other stores in Cleveland (Heights preferably) can I send her to?

I've picked up VRs at CVSes all around Cleveland and have not had a problem using my CC for them.  It's no use telling you which CVS I got them at because I've found out that just because the store has them in stock today doesn't mean they'll be in stock tomorrow. 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 05, 2012, 10:18:57 PM
Where is the closest place in Lakewood to buy reload cards?
HI I went a number of stores down the route 9 right out of lakewood and they all didn't have vr or mvd target , walgreens ,walmart ,kmart I just went to 4 cvs's and two had my vanilla debt card's (mvd) and 1 has 9 vr's left over after I purchased and they are getting another shipment tonight I think cvs's is your best shot . there is one on new Hampshire ave and in brick .
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 06, 2012, 12:02:05 AM
The CVS on New Hampshire had VR's in addition to MVR?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 06, 2012, 12:05:41 AM
The CVS on New Hampshire had VR's in addition to MVR?
not as of 5 today
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 06, 2012, 12:12:59 AM
HI I went a number of stores down the route 9 right out of lakewood and they all didn't have vr or mvd target , walgreens ,walmart ,kmart I just went to 4 cvs's and two had my vanilla debt card's (mvd) and 1 has 9 vr's left over after I purchased and they are getting another shipment tonight I think cvs's is your best shot . there is one on new Hampshire ave and in brick .
Thanx for the info.

For next time, don't bother checking Walmart and target (and kmart?) bec they don't carry them.

I mean to say, that they aren't out of stock - they don't carry them period.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 10:37:37 AM
I've picked up VRs at CVSes all around Cleveland and have not had a problem using my CC for them.  It's no use telling you which CVS I got them at because I've found out that just because the store has them in stock today doesn't mean they'll be in stock tomorrow.
Thanks a bunch. Considering there's more CVSes in Cleveland than white people that's all the info I need.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 06, 2012, 10:43:45 AM
Considering there's more CVSes in Cleveland than white people that's all the info I need.
Did you count all the "white people"?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 06, 2012, 10:56:15 AM
Thanks a bunch. Considering there's more CVSes in Cleveland than white people that's all the info I need.

I guess you've never visited the West Park area :).  But I should've specified Cleveland and surrounding suburbs.  Most recently I found them in Westlake, Twinsburg, and Solon.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 11:19:45 AM
also I was told by two different store managers @ cvs that they get a shipment once a week so if they don't have it ask to speak to the manager and request them vr's or mvd's (vanilla reloads -my vanilla debit)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 06, 2012, 11:29:38 AM
Did you count all the "white people"?
Yes, its not that hard.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
Yes, its not that hard.
They didn't have many where I went it was a mixed bag
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Smartypantz on December 06, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
OK I found a CVS that has a bunch of MVD left:) how do I go about doing the max allowed? Can I buy 4 at one time?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 06, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
You can buy as many as you want, but you might have to split them up in to multiple transactions and you're limited to $1000/day in VR loads to your BB card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 06, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
I know it might sound like a stupid question, but just wanna confirm. Is there a credit pull for appling for Bluebird?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2012, 04:08:18 PM
I know it might sound like a stupid question, but just wanna confirm. Is there a credit pull for appling for Bluebird?

No.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 06, 2012, 04:14:35 PM
Thanks. I am trying to open a Bluebird account, and the 1st question they ask is if I bought a starter card at Walmart. If I would do that 1st would it get me up and running right away? as apposed to waiting for card in the mail? or do you anyways not need the physical card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 06, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
Thanks. I am trying to open a Bluebird account, and the 1st question they ask is if I bought a starter card at Walmart. If I would do that 1st would it get me up and running right away? as apposed to waiting for card in the mail? or do you anyways not need the physical card?
you anyways would need to wait for the card to come in the mail after registering. Sign up online and save 5$
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 06, 2012, 04:24:59 PM
you anyways would need to wait for the card to come in the mail after registering. Sign up online and save 5$
The starter card does not include a card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on December 06, 2012, 04:28:54 PM
Only the VR loads onto Bluebird; correct?

The MVD's do not load onto Bluebird, right??
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 06, 2012, 04:40:56 PM
You want to hear a crazy story. I was in cvs buying vr and I wanted to use my wifes spg card instead of ine since I don't want so much spending on the AU. So I was about to swipe and the guy said I need to see I'd. So I told him its my wifes card. So he said I just need a manager to let me do that. He brought the manager and he said "no problem I always do it myself so why cant you" then I started to shmooze it up about GC VR it was pretty funny.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 06, 2012, 05:10:28 PM
Here is some friendly advice to all of you. When you go into CVS keep your mouth shut. Stop trying to be a player. You are doing more harm than good. When it comes to talking remember this “LESS IS MORE”.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 06, 2012, 05:11:58 PM
Ouch!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 06, 2012, 05:12:08 PM
Here is some friendly advice to all of you. When you go into CVS keep your mouth shut. Stop trying to be a player. You are doing more harm than good. When it comes to talking remember this “LESS IS MORE”.
could not have said it better myself
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 06, 2012, 05:20:15 PM
Here is some friendly advice to all of you. When you go into CVS keep your mouth shut. Stop trying to be a player. You are doing more harm than good. When it comes to talking remember this “LESS IS MORE”.

You think I said " hey guess what I'm going home and paying my bill with these" what I meant was he started schmoozing with me about his credit cards and he one time got decliend for a dollar charge in FL. Nothing to do with VR (sorry if I wrote that, didn't mean. I thought if was funny that he said I could you use my wife's cc, that's it, nothing more.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 06, 2012, 05:34:10 PM
Yes, its not that hard.
I think you need to get out of East Cleveland and the Heights more often...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 05:49:09 PM
OK I found a CVS that has a bunch of MVD left:) how do I go about doing the max allowed? Can I buy 4 at one time?
i bought 3.5 k at 1 shot because had had an employee who was young and was getting ready to leave work because the store was going to be closing in a few minutes
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 06, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
You think I said " hey guess what I'm going home and paying my bill with these" what I meant was he started schmoozing with me about his credit cards and he one time got decliend for a dollar charge in FL. Nothing to do with VR (sorry if I wrote that, didn't mean. I thought if was funny that he said I could you use my wife's cc, that's it, nothing more.
My comment was right after your post but was not directed at you are any other individual. Just an observation on how this whole thread is progressing.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on December 06, 2012, 06:38:58 PM
Here is some friendly advice to all of you. When you go into CVS keep your mouth shut. Stop trying to be a player. You are doing more harm than good. When it comes to talking remember this “LESS IS MORE”.
YOu must not be too happy Dan wrote a whole post on the main page and didn't just PM everyone.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: rosie5442 on December 06, 2012, 06:40:52 PM
some help please
If you can only register 3 MVD cards to activate and get a pin #, how are you buying 4 or more and cashing out

I know chase did not ask me for my pin but my receipt showed my hm address
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 06, 2012, 06:52:36 PM
also I was told by two different store managers @ cvs that they get a shipment once a week so if they don't have it ask to speak to the manager and request them vr's or mvd's (vanilla reloads -my vanilla debit)
Please do us all a favor and don't discuss these things with the manager. 

Just go there often enough and you'll figure out the pattern.

If you're too lazy to do that,  and instead you ask the manager - you'll end up suffering the consequences in the long run.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 06, 2012, 06:55:19 PM
YOu must not be too happy Dan wrote a whole post on the main page and didn't just PM everyone.
I am never happy when these things are posted all over the blogs. There is a thread at FT where you can rant about this so no need for me to do it here.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 06, 2012, 07:01:21 PM
I am never happy when these things are posted all over the blogs. There is a thread at FT where you can rant about this so no need for me to do it here.  :)
Pretty sure FTG had his FT bosses close that and its clones :D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 06, 2012, 07:13:45 PM
Pretty sure FTG had his FT bosses close that and its clones :D
Smart money says it will be reopened.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 08:30:36 PM
anyone who wants vr's or mvd's I'll pick up some if you p.m. within 20 minutes of this post by 8:50 p.m. est not past
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 06, 2012, 08:39:54 PM
anyone who wants vr's or mvd's I'll pick up some if you p.m. within 20 minutes of this post by 8:50 p.m. est not past

I think this is what helpme is referring to.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 08:43:35 PM
do you want the help this is only valid for about  more minutes since i'm going to pick them up
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 08:46:30 PM
3 minutes left that out
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
offer closed because i'm going now maybe motzei shabbos
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 06, 2012, 09:07:17 PM
anyone who wants vr's or mvd's I'll pick up some if you p.m. within 20 minutes of this post by 8:50 p.m. est not past
What would that help? You're offering to use their cc?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 09:45:21 PM
no mine I already got alot and if they want they can speak up
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: businessmachine on December 06, 2012, 10:24:04 PM
no mine I already got alot and if they want they can speak up

You're aware that the only point to buy VR is to use our own credit card spend. There's really no point to use it when its purchased on someone else's card...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 06, 2012, 10:30:52 PM
there was for me when I bought the wrong card and did a transfer through ap (newbie mistake)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 06, 2012, 10:39:23 PM
You're aware that the only point to buy VR is to use our own credit card spend. There's really no point to use it when its purchased on someone else's card...
+1
there was for me when I bought the wrong card and did a transfer through ap (newbie mistake)
??? ???
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 07, 2012, 09:33:02 AM
any reason with mvd not to just take the money out atm and instead do a CA?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 07, 2012, 09:39:26 AM
any reason with mvd not to just take the money out atm and instead do a CA?

Fee
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 07, 2012, 10:52:30 AM
Is there any reason to buy OneVanilla? Do they serve any purpose or are they no different than buying Amex gift cards?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Smartypantz on December 07, 2012, 11:12:31 AM
thanks for all your help! just successfully bought 4(@500 each), cashed them out @ Chase, and paid my cc bills! One step closer to meet spending requirements....
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 07, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
Is there any reason to buy OneVanilla? Do they serve any purpose or are they no different than buying Amex gift cards?
usually  OV are a drop cheaper and with amex you have to call up to register.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 07, 2012, 12:18:43 PM
usually  OV are a drop cheaper

Not if you buy Amex GC in certain ways...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: meshugener on December 07, 2012, 04:03:53 PM
@MileValue: No vanilla at the Walgreens in Kailua, Hawaii. Cancel your vacation...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ccspender on December 07, 2012, 09:19:26 PM
offer closed because i'm going now maybe motzei shabbos

I've been looking allover for VRs. Which CVS are you getting them from in Brooklyn?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 08, 2012, 07:32:57 PM
I've been looking allover for VRs. Which CVS are you getting them from in Brooklyn?
Kings Hwy and Nostrand doesn't carry them. Kings Hwy and Utica doesn't either.

Oh wait, you wanted places that DO carry them? Can't help there.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 08, 2012, 07:41:51 PM
I've been looking allover for VRs. Which CVS are you getting them from in Brooklyn?
I went to many stores and the one that I picked up both vr and mvd's they aren't letting me pay for it by credit card anymore only debit so I am going to have to go to one of the other stores that was supposed to get a shipment last week and see if they have anything left and if they will let me purchase by credit card p.m. if you want to know after I have purchased what they have left
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 09, 2012, 12:40:43 AM
think it is risky to register 6 MVD's in my name?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 09, 2012, 01:09:03 AM
Also if i register a card in my wifes name can I still Cash Advance it myself at the bank or can they see the name when they swipe the card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 09, 2012, 01:36:31 AM
Just finished reading through all 48 pages...
I think it might be helpful to post a picture at the top of every page of OneVanilla, MyVanilla, and Vanilla Reload. I know some of you will resent having to help those who can't read, but do you prefer 50% of the posts based on confusing these 3 with each other.
Additionally, VR's can be used to get cash from a balance transfer. Just buy VR's on one card, and pay that card with balance transfer.
For those who have payed rent with Bluebird; does it have to be to a business. I rent from a private person. Will I still be able to use BB to pay him?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 09, 2012, 12:16:15 PM
For those who have payed rent with Bluebird; does it have to be to a business. I rent from a private person. Will I still be able to use BB to pay him?
yes, you can send it to a private person.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 09, 2012, 12:40:10 PM
yes, you can send it to a private person.
Thanks! Can you explain how that works?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 09, 2012, 01:30:38 PM
Bill pay.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 09, 2012, 01:54:27 PM
Bill pay.
I appreciate your additional information. However I was referring specifically to paying a non-business. Thanks again for taking the time to share your knowledge with me.
Humbly,
Thingywingy
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 09, 2012, 02:17:33 PM
I appreciate your additional information. However I was referring specifically to paying a non-business. Thanks again for taking the time to share your knowledge with me.
Humbly,
Thingywingy

Bill pay.

...to a private person.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on December 09, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
@thingywingy
IF you want step by step read all mms wrtote on the subject.  He made it it very (too) clear and is an easier read than these 48 pages.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 09, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
@thingywingy
IF you want step by step read all mms wrtote on the subject.  He made it it very (too) clear and is an easier read than these 48 pages.
I was not looking BB & VR for dummies! I wanted to be sure you can pay a private person without any shtick that might jeopardize the account. Thank you for your referral to MMS. I'm sure he appreciates the plug; even if was dripping with sarcasm!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on December 09, 2012, 07:47:25 PM
I will leave it at, your welcome :o
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 09, 2012, 11:12:43 PM
I was not looking BB & VR for dummies! I wanted to be sure you can pay a private person without any shtick that might jeopardize the account. Thank you for your referral to MMS. I'm sure he appreciates the plug; even if was dripping with sarcasm!

I've made my last 2 rent payments to a private person via BB.  No issues so far (other than the payment taking forever to get there and the check being post-dated).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 09, 2012, 11:16:33 PM
Thanks for the heads up! About how long did it take? And for how much in advance was it post dated? I ask in order to know how far in advance to order the payment? Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 09, 2012, 11:32:11 PM
Queued it the morning of November 29.  My landlord received it on Dec 4, post-dated for Dec 5, and no postmark date on the envelope.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 09, 2012, 11:43:15 PM
I've made my last 2 rent payments to a private person via BB.  No issues so far (other than the payment taking forever to get there and the check being post-dated).
Queued it the morning of November 29.  My landlord received it on Dec 4, post-dated for Dec 5, and no postmark date on the envelope.
"Forever" was getting me scared. 5 days is pretty decent in my books.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yosefchaim on December 10, 2012, 06:44:24 PM
I can't search the whole thread. Can you load a Amex reload onto Bluebird?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on December 10, 2012, 09:49:20 PM
I can't search the whole thread. Can you load a Amex reload onto Bluebird?
can't read might be a legitimate טענה but can't search???
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 10, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
can't read might be a legitimate טענה but can't search???

+1
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: SPGCont on December 11, 2012, 12:02:32 AM
Anyone care to share how long the "review" process should take?

Applied and it says "we are reviewing your application and will get back to you".

Reviewing what exactly?

I thought no credit check was required?

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 11, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
When paying Chase from bluebird, do i select Chase lending services, or Chase Credit cards?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 11, 2012, 01:22:03 PM
When paying Chase from bluebird, do i select Chase lending services, or Chase Credit cards?
Are you paying off a Chase loan or a Chase credit card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 11, 2012, 01:44:17 PM
Are you paying off a Chase loan or a Chase credit card?
credit card
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 11, 2012, 01:56:42 PM
credit card


...so which do YOU think is ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 11, 2012, 02:06:44 PM

...so which do YOU think is ;)
true, just the lending services asked for zip code, which threw me off
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 11, 2012, 03:10:16 PM
Just thought I'd mention... I was in a CVS in NJ and found 2 VR's left, but did not yet recieve my 2 new CC, so I "hid" them behind some other cards. ;) I'm feeling a little guilty but, a DDFer's gotta do what a DDF'ers goota do! ;D

Just to make sure you can reload a MVD with VR right?

Also, please post your experience w/ cash advance of MVD. Any of the banks making an issue out of it?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on December 11, 2012, 04:48:01 PM
Just thought I'd mention... I was in a CVS in NJ and found 2 VR's left, but did not yet recieve my 2 new CC, so I "hid" them behind some other cards. ;) I'm feeling a little guilty but, a DDFer's gotta do what a DDF'ers goota do! ;D

Just to make sure you can reload a MVD with VR right?

Also, please post your experience w/ cash advance of MVD. Any of the banks making an issue out of it?

Don't feel guilty - I have been to a couple stores where other people have hid VRs, so I always look now ;-)  And then I hide them someplace else!  Yes you can reload MVD with VR.  I did my first CA at the bank yesterday without issue, but I am using the permanent card w/my name on it.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2012, 04:49:02 PM
Why transfer VR to MVD over BB?
Unless you're already maxing out BB?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: gingiboy5 on December 11, 2012, 04:49:25 PM
If i need help reaching my credit card bonus spending of $3K/3months, is it better to buy MyVanilla card or BlueBird card? I would just buy 2 $500 cards and then a week later withdraw the $1000 from an ATM and put it back in my bank account.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 11, 2012, 05:04:34 PM
Why transfer VR to MVD over BB?
Unless you're already maxing out BB?
1st you can get the cash quicker. 2nd if your bills are not enough it may look suspicious sending money to same person over and over.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 11, 2012, 05:07:03 PM
Just thought I'd mention... I was in a CVS in NJ and found 2 VR's left, but did not yet recieve my 2 new CC, so I "hid" them behind some other cards. ;) I'm feeling a little guilty but, a DDFer's gotta do what a DDF'ers goota do! ;D
Just thought I'd mention... I was in a CVS in NJ and found 2 VR's hidden behind some other cards. ;) I'm feeling a little guilty but, a DDFer's gotta do what a DDF'ers goota do! ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 11, 2012, 05:10:54 PM
1st you can get the cash quicker. 2nd if your bills are not enough it may look suspicious sending money to same person over and over.

What's suspicious about loading VR to BB? Isn't the the express purpose of VR to "reload" debit cards such as BB?
Or do you mean transferring out of BB, why would that be suspicious?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 11, 2012, 05:38:29 PM
1st you can get the cash quicker. 2nd if your bills are not enough it may look suspicious sending money to same person over and over.

And cashing out a bunch of 500 mvd isn't??

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 11, 2012, 05:58:50 PM
Just thought I'd mention... I was in a CVS in NJ and found 2 VR's hidden behind some other cards. ;) I'm feeling a little guilty but, a DDFer's gotta do what a DDF'ers goota do! ;D
what cards were they behind?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 11, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
And cashing out a bunch of 500 mvd isn't??
It is; but it's within the rules. Pretending your making payment when they are going to yourself is not. Additionally I care more about my reputation with Amex (BB) then Vannila. Like I mentioned already, you get the cash quicker.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 11, 2012, 06:08:47 PM
It is; but it's within the rules. Pretending your making payment when they are going to yourself is not. Additionally I care more about my reputation with Amex (BB) then Vannila. Like I mentioned its also quicker.

not sure what you mean. whats wrong with buying vr. swiping my card. going home to reload them. and hey guess what, i need to pay my bill hey i have bb, why not pay my bill with bb ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 11, 2012, 06:25:02 PM
not sure what you mean. whats wrong with buying vr. swiping my card. going home to reload them. and hey guess what, i need to pay my bill hey i have bb, why not pay my bill with bb ;)
If you are paying real bills, then there is nothing wrong. If you are sending large sums of money, to the same person , time and again, right after loading up with VR's, for the full amount loaded, they may not be so happy.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yosefchaim on December 11, 2012, 06:30:25 PM
can't read might be a legitimate טענה but can't search???
I tried a search first and n/t came up!!! Anyway can s/o answer my question if you can load a amex reload onto Bluebird. Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 11, 2012, 06:41:59 PM
I tried a search first and n/t came up!!! Anyway can s/o answer my question if you can load a amex reload onto Bluebird. Thanks!
If you tell what you mean by "amex reload" I can then answer.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yosefchaim on December 11, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
If you tell what you mean by "amex reload" I can then answer.
S/o told me that amex offered him on the phone a Amex reload and asked me to find out if it works for BB. Is he making a mistake and there is no such a thing?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 11, 2012, 06:53:32 PM
S/o told me that amex offered him on the phone a Amex reload and asked me to find out if it works for BB. Is he making a mistake and there is no such a thing?
Not sure what they are talking about. If they mean an Amex prepaid that can be reloaded that it can't be loaded to the BB.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 11, 2012, 07:04:23 PM
If you are paying real bills, then there is nothing wrong. If you are sending large sums of money, to the same person , time and again, right after loading up with VR's, for the full amount loaded, they may not be so happy.

Whose the same person?? the bank thats what your suppose to do with bb and besides everyone card sign up bonus 1k-3k not so crazy for paying bills
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yosefchaim on December 11, 2012, 07:12:39 PM
Not sure what they are talking about. If they mean an Amex prepaid that can be reloaded that it can't be loaded to the BB.
Thanks, I'll pass it on.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 11, 2012, 07:13:50 PM
So my concern will not apply to you. However for the guy who is looking to meet thresholds on 3 ink bolds, and intends on sending 15 $1000 payments to his wife or brother, pretending its a payment, MVD might be a better route. Not to say you can't overdo it with MVD, just I would think its a little better.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on December 11, 2012, 07:47:09 PM
What MEir613 is saying is that every time you buy a vr on your cc you are going to have to pay the bill so you have just generated a large bill -to pay off your vr.  he is saying you should use bb to pay that bill.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 11, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
What MEir613 is saying is that every time you buy a vr on your cc you are going to have to pay the bill so you have just generated a large bill -to pay off your vr.  he is saying you should use bb to pay that bill.

+1. @thingy. Why do you have to send money to relative just pay the bank straight

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: regdr on December 11, 2012, 09:06:54 PM
1.)  I did max ca on MVD temp card.  I now owe 50 cents.  Any reason not to reload with VR and repeat ca for $1 less? 
2.)  Close MVD account when perm card arrives to avoid 90 day dormancy fee?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: joey on December 11, 2012, 09:13:19 PM
At which NYC office supply stores can I get a $500 gift card (any flavor)? My local OD (times square) no longer sells $500 denominations. They now only offer $200 and below.
Thanks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 11, 2012, 09:56:28 PM
I just stopped by at a cvs in Rockland county and I went to the register with 2 my vanilla debits and the machine said I need a other payment the rep didn't even know why she asked maybe just don't have money on my card.....  Anyone had a issue like this?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 11, 2012, 10:01:35 PM
I just stopped by at a cvs in Rockland county and I went to the register with 2 my vanilla debits and the machine said I need a other payment the rep didn't even know why she asked maybe just don't have money on my card.....  Anyone had a issue like this?
just checked my email and I got an alert from Amex that there might be fraud on your card so I guess didn't let it through cause it was a big transaction? What do I need to do in order for them to let it through when I go back?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 11, 2012, 10:12:47 PM
just checked my email and I got an alert from Amex that there might be fraud on your card so I guess didn't let it through cause it was a big transaction? What do I need to do in order for them to let it through when I go back?
Just call them up find out what charges are on the card and tell them once they tell you all the charges you made that you made them and they will approve them . Is this a new amex card ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Just thought I'd mention... I was in a CVS in NJ and found 2 VR's hidden behind some other cards. ;) I'm feeling a little guilty but, a DDFer's gotta do what a DDF'ers goota do! ;D
Lol...+1 CLE.
Chaikel you playing this game yet while you're in town?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 11, 2012, 10:55:43 PM
be aware I tried verifying a card online and I put all the correct information and work. I called them up and verified my address and name . Then when I went to do a ca it didn't work so I called them up and without my permission they made my card into a gift card . It is no longer a debit card any suggestions?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 11, 2012, 11:15:14 PM
Just call them up find out what charges are on the card and tell them once they tell you all the charges you made that you made them and they will approve them . Is this a new amex card ?
not a new card but never made such a big transaction
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 12, 2012, 01:26:42 AM
What MEir613 is saying is that every time you buy a vr on your cc you are going to have to pay the bill so you have just generated a large bill -to pay off your vr.  he is saying you should use bb to pay that bill.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892
From Dans post "You can also use it to pay any other bills you may have like your mortgage, rent, or utilities, which may raise less of a flag then paying a credit card bill."
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: shmooz on December 12, 2012, 09:07:34 AM
Not been able to find any VR at cvs or walgreens at all. Anywhere else they may be hiding?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on December 12, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Not been able to find any VR at cvs or walgreens at all. Anywhere else they may be hiding?

I have been in 2 different CVS in the past week and half and both had a stack of VR cards that looks like noone has touched them. One was in the Bronx in NY and one was in Westchester in NY. If you want the exact locations, I can post them or let you know via PM.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jpointer on December 12, 2012, 02:41:33 PM
Other than the Vanilla reload, which in northern California is impossible to buy with a cc, what other reload cards can be used to load a BB, and can they be bought with a cc? I have tried to use the Vanilla debit card to load the BB but no success. Help
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 12, 2012, 03:27:43 PM
I have been in 2 different CVS in the past week and half and both had a stack of VR cards that looks like noone has touched them. One was in the Bronx in NY and one was in Westchester in NY. If you want the exact locations, I can post them or let you know via PM.
anything in bp willy area?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on December 12, 2012, 08:08:15 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892
From Dans post "You can also use it to pay any other bills you may have like your mortgage, rent, or utilities, which may raise less of a flag then paying a credit card bill."
I know BB hasn't even been around for that long but has anyone heard of problems yet for using it to pay a cc bill?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 13, 2012, 12:33:48 AM
I know BB hasn't even been around for that long but has anyone heard of problems yet for using it to pay a cc bill?
No.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kool Deals on December 13, 2012, 10:18:01 PM
I just got a delta and a blue cash AMEX I need to spend 1500 for the sighnup bonus what's the best way 1 VR then transfer to BB then pay the cc bill
or
buy Vanilla debit card ask at bank for cash advance deposit in bank pay bill
or
you tell me a better one
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 13, 2012, 10:21:46 PM
I just got a delta and a blue cash AMEX I need to spend 1500 for the sighnup bonus what's the best way 1 VR then transfer to BB then pay the cc bill
or
buy Vanilla debit card ask at bank for cash advance deposit in bank pay bill
or
you tell me a better one
spend $1500 dollars like you normally would
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kool Deals on December 13, 2012, 10:41:37 PM
spend $1500 dollars like you normally would
I'm not really interested
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 14, 2012, 01:03:26 AM
you tell me a better one
Maybe read the thread and you will have your answer many times!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kool Deals on December 14, 2012, 09:25:03 AM
I did but it sounds risky to spen it all on vanilla
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Wheelerdealer on December 16, 2012, 04:27:00 PM
I have a lot of prepaid Amex GC that I got from rebates ( and my name is registered to the card)
Can I put them into my Bluebird and then cash them out via Amazon payments?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 16, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
Can I put them into my Bluebird and then cash them out via Amazon payments?
No
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 16, 2012, 10:56:06 PM
When cashing out at bank do I need id or can I send my wife with my card? And do you just ask for cash advance? Thanks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 17, 2012, 01:56:29 AM
I bought 2 MVD's, signed up one, and am having a problem signing up 2nd one. Am I supposed to sign it up as a whole separate account, or as a 2nd card within that account?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: U-no-me! on December 17, 2012, 02:00:26 AM
I think this thread is ripe for a wiki.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 17, 2012, 07:18:37 AM
I think this thread is ripe for a wiki delete.
FTFY
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mmermss on December 17, 2012, 10:59:28 AM
FTFY
Delete? First lets call chase and Amex and tell them what people are doing.... Just saying because I don't use it  :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: tll on December 17, 2012, 01:36:06 PM
I called a bunch of office depots they all told me they dont carry vanilla reload cards anymore.
Any other office supply store that still carries them?
Should I keep calling more office depots or did all stop selling?

I wanted to get 5x on UR spending
Thank you
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 17, 2012, 01:55:33 PM
I called a bunch of office depots they all told me they dont carry vanilla reload cards anymore.
Any other office supply store that still carries them?
Should I keep calling more office depots or did all stop selling?

I wanted to get 5x on UR spending
Thank you
Good morning America! They pulled them a month ago. You could still find vr at Walgreens and CVS.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 17, 2012, 02:25:39 PM
You can still buy Vanilla GCs at OD.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 17, 2012, 02:26:35 PM
You can still buy Vanilla GCs at OD.

what's the max on those?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 17, 2012, 02:28:10 PM
what's the max on those?

Depends on the store, but they can be sold up to $500.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 17, 2012, 02:28:42 PM
Depends on the store, but they can be sold up to $500.

thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on December 17, 2012, 02:29:05 PM
thanks!

Y(very)W.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 17, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
I called a bunch of office depots they all told me they dont carry vanilla reload cards anymore.
Any other office supply store that still carries them?
Should I keep calling more office depots or did all stop selling?

I wanted to get 5x on UR spending
Thank you
You should call Chase and they will be able to tell you where to buy them.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: tll on December 17, 2012, 03:26:59 PM
@DAN You can still buy Vanilla GCs at OD
Vanilla Gift Cards(Thats the debit card)
Can  you direct me to a link where you write how I can cash that out?
Will it look bad if I buy 5k of Vanilla GCs on my Chase Ink?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: tll on December 17, 2012, 03:37:41 PM
@Dan
Can I still buy amex GC in OD and use that to buy VR in CVS?
Whats the max thats safe to buy on each card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 17, 2012, 03:39:53 PM
@Dan
Can you lend me $100?  :)
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 17, 2012, 03:42:43 PM
You should call Chase and they will be able to tell you where to buy them.  ::) ::) ::)
please don't give them any good idea ...they might actually follow you up on them8)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: tll on December 17, 2012, 04:10:40 PM
The reason I asked Dan is because of the incorrect information I got right before he responded
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 17, 2012, 04:45:38 PM
Went into Chase in NJ today and they would'nt cash advance MVD. I then went to BOA, where I am not a customer. They did it, no problem.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 18, 2012, 01:39:21 AM
Not sure if anyone realized but you can load up MVD more than $500. Not sure tha max butax per day is $2500. How big of a cash  advance can you do?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 18, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
Not sure if anyone realized but you can load up MVD more than $500. Not sure tha max butax per day is $2500. How big of a cash  advance can you do?
So your saying when you went to a store like cvs to load up the card you loaded for ie 1k when it clearly says 500 ? or do you mean cash advance at the bank of more than 1k ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 18, 2012, 10:38:43 AM
With initial load max is $500 but using reloads to load up MVD is what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 18, 2012, 10:50:09 AM
tx will keep that in mind
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: RT on December 18, 2012, 12:27:38 PM
Does anyone know whee to buy VR in Chicago? All the places I looked for them did not have any....
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 18, 2012, 02:59:17 PM
Just got a few vr from Walgreens and it printed up a coupon which read as follows: Switch to green dot and get the $4.95 activation fees waived. The clerk tried to use it towards vr and it didn't work lol
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 18, 2012, 04:30:35 PM
so green dot waives the initial fee to buy the card only by walgreens? can you use the green dot to load money onto bb ? did you purchase the green dot by cc ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 18, 2012, 04:53:31 PM
so green dot waives the initial fee to buy the card only by walgreens?
No. I purchased Vanilla Reloads and the register printed a coupon that waives the fee for green dot. Basically saying switch your biz to us and we'll waive the fee.
can you use the green dot to load money onto bb ?
No
did you purchase the green dot by cc ?
Not yet. First I have to figure out how to unload them. It seems though that you can withdraw cash with them at a MoneyPass ATM.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 18, 2012, 07:09:01 PM
HELP!!! I have been all over Brooklyn looking for VR or Visa Reloadable cards and have yet to find a place that allowed me to pay with credit card. If there is anyone here who knows of a place in the NY area please share.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 18, 2012, 09:26:35 PM
HELP!!! I have been all over Brooklyn looking for VR or Visa Reloadable cards and have yet to find a place that allowed me to pay with credit card. If there is anyone here who knows of a place in the NY area please share.
I bought a week ago at cvs 65 and 18  in boro park
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 18, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
I bought a week ago at cvs 65 and 18  in boro park
wow I went there and they didn't want to sell them to me when buying by credit card
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 18, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
It seems in NYC It's hard to do being there are not that many office max or office depots.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 18, 2012, 10:15:00 PM
It seems in NYC It's hard to do being there are not that many office max or office depots.
is there any reason why it is better to get it at office max or office depot than cvs?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 18, 2012, 10:18:12 PM
bec it seems there thay are less strict as to what means of payment you use to buy these cards
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 18, 2012, 10:22:56 PM
is there any reason why it is better to get it at office max or office depot than cvs?
5x UR
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 18, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
that too
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 18, 2012, 11:19:47 PM
Has anyone ever done a large CA (1k+) from the MVD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 19, 2012, 12:36:03 AM
Has anyone ever done a large CA (1k+) from the MVD?
I have what do you want to know
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 19, 2012, 01:45:23 AM
I have what do you want to know
If there is a limit to the size of the CA? Did the bank or Vanilla give you any trouble? Did it only work in certain banks?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 19, 2012, 02:45:37 AM
I did a CA in Chase, Wells Fargo and Citi Banks and each one was for $500, I didnt have any problems
the tellers all said they need to check if they could do it and then it was fine, all they needed was my signature and ID

The only interesting part was in Wells Fargo they first issued a Check and then cashed it, even though i still had the same results i got the full amount
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 19, 2012, 09:36:48 AM
Does anybody know if money deposited in a BB account counts towards general assets?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 19, 2012, 11:40:36 AM
Has anyone ever done a large CA (1k+) from the MVD?
I have what do you want to know
I did a CA in Chase, Wells Fargo and Citi Banks and each one was for $500, I didnt have any problems
the tellers all said they need to check if they could do it and then it was fine, all they needed was my signature and ID
I meant 1k+ at once, because I tried a couple of times to make a purchase at Wal-Mart for ~900 and it was declined (the max it would let me do was ~800) so I was wondering if a CA was similar.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aj26 on December 19, 2012, 11:48:39 AM
Since it is easily convertable to cash- It would be current assets, not sure what you mean by "general assets"
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 19, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
Since it is easily convertable to cash- It would be current assets, not sure what you mean by "general assets"
like for government programs
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 19, 2012, 01:47:14 PM
Has anyone ever done a large CA (1k+) from the MVD?
yes I just did a 1.5k CA with no problems.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on December 19, 2012, 03:47:58 PM
yes I just did a 1.5k CA with no problems.

...in one MVD card?

...you loaded the MVD from home with one cc? Or at the store, new?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 19, 2012, 04:40:58 PM
...in one MVD card?

...you loaded the MVD from home with one cc? Or at the store, new?
???
not sure if we are talking about the same product.
I added multiple vanilla reloads to a registered MVD, and then cashed out at a bank.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ae123 on December 19, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
Can some of the brilliant minds here please read this post and catch any mistakes or confirm that I got it right?
Thanks.

Suppose I have a $2,500 monthly mortgage bill from Wells Fargo.
I can buy a Bluebird card for free over the internet and then buy five $500 Vanilla reloads every month for $3.95 x 5 = $19.75.
I then load the Vanilla cards onto the BB - not more than $1000 a day.
I can then pay my WF mortgage bill with my now-loaded BB card.
If I use a Credit Card that gives 5 Ultimate Reward points per dollar spent in an office supply store - like Office Depot - I would earn 2500 x 5 = 12,500 UR points monthly.
After 12 months I would accumulate 150,000 UR points (12,500 x 12) while paying $237 ($19.75 x 12).

Did I get everything right? Am I missing something?
Also, will Office Depot give me problems for buying $2,500 in Vanilla reloads at one time?
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 19, 2012, 04:50:22 PM
You can no longer find Vanilla reloads at office depot. Only at CVS or Walgreens
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 19, 2012, 04:51:07 PM
One problem is OD no longer sells VR's. It is because of threads like this one at all the forums that it was killed.

Does everyone understand this?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ae123 on December 19, 2012, 04:54:31 PM
1 - But did I get everything else right?

2 - I assume at CVS and Walgreens I would only earn 1 UR point per dollar spent.
Is that true?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 19, 2012, 05:05:27 PM
1 - But did I get everything else right?

2 - I assume at CVS and Walgreens I would only earn 1 UR point per dollar spent.
Is that true?
yes except with the freedom card you will earn 5x  UR's from Jan-March 2013 on drugstores...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ae123 on December 19, 2012, 05:10:31 PM
Thanks.
It may still be worth it for me to earn 1 UR point per dollar and earn 30,000 UR points a year while spending $237, as I would think 30k UR points are worth about $400.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 19, 2012, 05:14:04 PM
I would think 30k UR points are worth about $400.
A lot more than that.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ae123 on December 19, 2012, 05:17:54 PM
A lot more than that.

30k on their own? How?
Or only if it adds to more points that I could earn?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ae123 on December 19, 2012, 05:18:25 PM
One problem is OD no longer sells VR's. It is because of threads like this one at all the forums that it was killed.

Does everyone understand this?

I strongly disagree with your attitude!
The whole purpose of this site is to help each other!
So, if someone knows something that will benefit others, he will post it here knowing full well that by publicizing it, it may end sooner.
We are here to help while things last. Not to mooch good information off of others without sharing and/or helping back.
By the way, even if it wasn't publicized here, don't think it wasn't publicized on other sites like MMS.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: TC610 on December 19, 2012, 06:18:44 PM
I strongly disagree with your attitude!
The whole purpose of this site is to help each other!
So, if someone knows something that will benefit others, he will post it here knowing full well that by publicizing it, it may end sooner.
We are here to help while things last. Not to mooch good information off of others without sharing and/or helping back.
By the way, even if it wasn't publicized here, don't think it wasn't publicized on other sites like MMS.

When I first came to DDF I totally agreed with you.  In fact, I may have posted something very similar to this.  After being here for a couple of years, I now disagree with those statements. 

I've seen too many good things here get killed by over exploitation.  All I can do is roll my eyes when I read reports of n00bs calling a company asking how to use loopholes that the general public just doesn't know about.  I read and keep up with most of these forums, helping out newer folks as best I can with the knowledge and experiences I have hoping that some day someone will help me out when I need it.

It's been proven that the longer things stay non-publicized, the longer they last for everyone who knows about them.  Sharing them amongst smaller groups of people is one thing, but MMS is where tricks like these go to die.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ae123 on December 19, 2012, 06:27:54 PM
I hear you.
But are you saying we should stop sharing information here because some may ruin it? If yes, no one will be helping anyone!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 19, 2012, 06:28:38 PM
I strongly disagree with your attitude!
What attitude? I just asked if everyone understands why a lot of these deals get killed early. They can make their own decision on what to post.

This would be attitude: Everything you asked has already been answered in this thread. Try reading the thread instead of asking the same question over and over. If you would like me to spice it up (attitude) just let me know.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 19, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
But are you saying we should stop sharing information here because some may ruin it? If yes, no one will be helping anyone!
Some deals you need to use discretion. This is lesson I hope everyone learns sooner than later.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 19, 2012, 10:43:21 PM
So today I went to chase and asked the teller for a cash advance of 488 that's the total I had left on the card and she said I don't have sufficient funds so I asked here to give for me 450 so it went through but I got a charge of 1.95 on my card. Anyone else had this? Anything I can do?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 19, 2012, 11:20:18 PM
You can use the bb card at a money pass atm and withdraw 500 without a charge up to 2k a month . It might present you with checking or credit go with only those options otherwise you might get charge a fee . as for finding the atm's google it .
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 19, 2012, 11:23:43 PM
You can use the bb card at a money pass atm and withdraw 500 without a charge up to 2k a month.
For those in Jersey,  the ATM's in wawa are part of money pass.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 20, 2012, 12:34:41 PM
You can use the bb card at a money pass atm and withdraw 500 without a charge up to 2k a month . It might present you with checking or credit go with only those options otherwise you might get charge a fee . as for finding the atm's google it .
From Bluebird website "Bluebird members never pay surcharge fees at MoneyPass ATMs, including Money Center Express machines at Walmart (but a $2 Amex network fee will apply unless you have Employer Direct Deposit)".
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 20, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
From Bluebird website "Bluebird members never pay surcharge fees at MoneyPass ATMs, including Money Center Express machines at Walmart (but a $2 Amex network fee will apply unless you have Employer Direct Deposit)".

Do you need to set up a PIN for ATM withdrawals on a BlueBird card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on December 20, 2012, 01:17:52 PM
It's important to note that:

1) VR (only; OR cash) can load a BB

2) CC's can buy MVD's that can get cashed out at an ATM for $2 (or at some banks for free)....
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 20, 2012, 02:10:28 PM
It's important to note that:

1) VR (only; OR cash) can load a BB

2) CC's can buy MVD's that can get cashed out at an ATM for $2 (or at some banks for free)....

I haven't seen MVD for sale (just my own experience), but I have seen Vanilla GC. According to the vanilla sites, you can convert the Vanilla GC into MVD - does anyone know if there are limits or fees with this conversion?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 20, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
It's important to note that:

1) VR (only; OR cash) can load a BB

2) CC's can buy MVD's that can get cashed out at an ATM for $2 (or at some banks for free)....

even without registering it?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2012, 02:39:47 PM
I haven't seen MVD for sale (just my own experience), but I have seen Vanilla GC. According to the vanilla sites, you can convert the Vanilla GC into MVD - does anyone know if there are limits or fees with this conversion?
On the MVD site it just shows VR and DD as reload options.
I don't see a GC reload option.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 20, 2012, 02:53:15 PM
On the MVD site it just shows VR and DD as reload options.
I don't see a GC reload option.

On myvanilladebitcard.com, if you click get started, the bottom portion seems to indicate you can convert your current "vanilla gift card" into a MVD? Not as a reload but as a conversion. Is that not possible?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 20, 2012, 03:24:05 PM
Do you need to set up a PIN for ATM withdrawals on a BlueBird card?
Yes
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 20, 2012, 03:24:42 PM
Have anyone received permanent MVD yet?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on December 20, 2012, 03:26:37 PM
Have anyone received permanent MVD yet?
Yes
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 20, 2012, 03:26:46 PM
Yes

on BB site?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: gingiboy5 on December 20, 2012, 04:04:28 PM
Sorry for the rookie Q but could someone plz explain the bluebird/VR process to help spending w out really spending? im confused...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 20, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
on BB site?
Did you set up your pin when you set up your bluebird account? I think that is when I got my pin.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 20, 2012, 04:24:10 PM
Did you set up your pin when you set up your bluebird account? I think that is when I got my pin.
guessing that's not the pw at login...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on December 20, 2012, 04:30:16 PM
guessing that's not the pw at login...
not, it is not pw. It is a pin.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 20, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Just sighted VR at OD...but the manager saw me and was like 'we don't sell these no more, how'd that get there?' Oh well!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: asks on December 20, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
Just sighted VR at OD...but the manager saw me and was like 'we don't sell these no more, how'd that get there?' Oh well!
He didn't let you try to pay for it?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 20, 2012, 06:26:49 PM
Nope just took them away and found the rest and took them too. Apparently one of the employees mixed up one vanilla with vanilla reloads 8)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 20, 2012, 10:16:44 PM
anyone have any good ideas when I first started out I mistakenly got 1.5k of gift cards not the vr or mvd . I'm looking for other ways besides for ap to transfer the money . Can I put it on my bluebird ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on December 20, 2012, 10:20:43 PM
anyone have any good ideas when I first started out I mistakenly got 1.5k of gift cards not the vr or mvd . I'm looking for other ways besides for ap to transfer the money . Can I put it on my bluebird ?

Use them to buy VRs.  Have them load 496.05 for a total $500 w/fee, swipe the gift card as credit and toss it in the trash on the way out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 20, 2012, 10:44:48 PM
Nope just took them away and found the rest and took them too. Apparently one of the employees mixed up one vanilla with vanilla reloads 8)

you should have just taken them and then had them fill it up at cvs, or walgreens
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 20, 2012, 10:57:22 PM
you should have just taken them and then had them fill it up at cvs, or walgreens
taken them as in loading it with $20 then loading the remaining $480 at cvs?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on December 20, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
you should have just taken them and then had them fill it up at cvs, or walgreens

Not sure that would even work as they are actually different - Walgreens VRs have a magnetic strip and are swiped at the register when loading.  OD do not.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 20, 2012, 11:46:10 PM
It's important to note that:

1) VR (only; OR cash) can load a BB

2) CC's can buy MVD's that can get cashed out at an ATM for $2 (or at some banks for free)....
like which bank?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 21, 2012, 12:13:26 AM
Not sure that would even work as they are actually different - Walgreens VRs have a magnetic strip and are swiped at the register when loading.  OD do not.

the ones from cvs have a bar code
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 21, 2012, 12:14:06 AM
like which bank?

probably any I tried Citi, chase, wells fargo and it worked
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 21, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
probably any I tried Citi, chase, wells fargo and it worked
by chase I paid $1.95
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: izzchuck on December 23, 2012, 01:54:13 AM
Anyone in lakewood Know where I can find a money pass machine? Thanks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 23, 2012, 01:56:05 AM
Anyone in lakewood Know where I can find a money pass machine? Thanks
wawa
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 23, 2012, 03:19:24 AM
by chase I paid $1.95

when you went to chase did you go to the teller and ask for CA with swiping your card ?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 23, 2012, 08:24:31 PM
when you went to chase did you go to the teller and ask for CA with swiping your card ?
went over ro the teller and asked for a cash advance she asked for my id and swiped the card by her machine.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 23, 2012, 08:28:10 PM
and they charged you 1.95?
they didnt charge me a thing
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 23, 2012, 09:03:24 PM
and they charged you 1.95?
they didnt charge me a thing
shw didn't even know she charged me if just didn't work for the full amount so u tried for less and then I saw I got the charge
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on December 23, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
A little new to bluebird.. Why not just "bill pay" a friend and have him cash the check and give you the money?? I started buying vailla relaods and plan on paying rent but arent sure how to move out more cash
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 23, 2012, 09:17:54 PM
A little new to bluebird.. Why not just "bill pay" a friend and have him cash the check and give you the money?? I started buying vailla relaods and plan on paying rent but arent sure how to move out more cash
You can but it can get risky if they catch on. You can pay your credit card directly as well
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: milesaver on December 23, 2012, 09:27:24 PM
I've been to many dollar tree stores and they all have plenty of mvd and VR its just that you cant load a bb card there. they dont accept amex so i just cashed out 2k of mvd at wells fargo no id required just a signature on a ca voucher
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 23, 2012, 09:35:30 PM
I've been to many dollar tree stores and they all have plenty of mvd and VR its just that you cant load a bb card there.
You can never load a bb at a store. You have to do it online at vanillareloads.com
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Gd on December 24, 2012, 10:51:12 AM
You have much to learn, young Padawan :)

This is not the young Padawan although I too have much to learn.  I went to the Bluebird site and was about to put money from two MyVanilla prepaid Visas that I bought in CVS onto my Bluebird card as cash from a debit card.  Then I saw that there was a separate procedure for loading from vanillareloads.  However, clicking that got me to the Bluebird site but no wiser.

How do I get money from these two cards ($500 each minus the fee) onto my Bluebird card?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 24, 2012, 10:53:22 AM
This is not the young Padawan although I too have much to learn.  I went to the Bluebird site and was about to put money from two MyVanilla prepaid Visas that I bought in CVS onto my Bluebird card as cash from a debit card.  Then I saw that there was a separate procedure for loading from vanillareloads.  However, clicking that got me to the Bluebird site but no wiser.

How do I get money from these two cards ($500 each minus the fee) onto my Bluebird card?  Thanks.
Don't think that's possible.
Title: Re: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 24, 2012, 11:01:26 AM
This is not the young Padawan although I too have much to learn.  I went to the Bluebird site and was about to put money from two MyVanilla prepaid Visas that I bought in CVS onto my Bluebird card as cash from a debit card.  Then I saw that there was a separate procedure for loading from vanillareloads.  However, clicking that got me to the Bluebird site but no wiser.

How do I get money from these two cards ($500 each minus the fee) onto my Bluebird card?  Thanks.

Vanilla reload --> BB (via vanillareload.com)
or,
MVD (which is what you have I think) --> Cash out with a cash advance at some banks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 24, 2012, 01:29:04 PM
Great article  (http://millionmilesecrets.com/2012/10/24/bluebird-bill-pay/) which explains how to use BB step by step
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aj26 on December 24, 2012, 03:18:27 PM
I keep getting "We were not able to electronically identify you. Please call 1-855-686-9513 to complete your enrollment."
Tried calling and can't get through to a person.
Any tips
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yellow on December 24, 2012, 04:05:43 PM
Does anyone know whee to buy VR in Chicago? All the places I looked for them did not have any....
CVS on devon and crawford has some

So I basically read through this entire thread and bought 1 VR ($500) and one MVD ($500)
Can I load the $500 from the VR to the MVD and go to chase and get a CA for $1000?
I used BB in the past with VR's but would much rather get a cash advance

Edit:
When I try to register my MVD online it says to call a # and when I call and give my 16 digit card number it says it doesn't recognize the card? Do I need to wait up to 24 hours to activate? (according to the CVS reciept "prepaid card activation will occur within 24 hours" i've always been able to activate my cards instantly in the past)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 24, 2012, 04:10:16 PM
Great article  (http://millionmilesecret.com/2012/10/24/bluebird-bill-pay/) which explains how to use BB step by step
I wouldn’t link to that idiot if my life depended on it.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 24, 2012, 04:37:53 PM
I wouldn’t link to that idiot if my life depended on it.
And you are within your rights as I am. That says, he does offer a blow by blow pictured description which can be really helpful to a no0b or 2 8)
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 24, 2012, 04:57:55 PM
And you are within your rights as I am. That says, he does offer a blow by blow pictured description which can be really helpful to a no0b or 2 8)
True but what he also offers is sure fire ways to get deals killed.
Title: Vanilla Reload
Post by: ajs625 on December 24, 2012, 06:49:13 PM
Has anyone bought a vanilla reload and gotten a message "Deactivated 4002" when they tried to load it to Bluebird? If so, how did you get it resolved?
Title: Re: Vanilla Reload
Post by: mmermss on December 24, 2012, 06:59:46 PM
Has anyone bought a vanilla reload and gotten a message "Deactivated 4002" when they tried to load it to Bluebird? If so, how did you get it resolved?
Think your post belongs here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.0)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 24, 2012, 07:00:44 PM
Has anyone bought a vanilla reload and gotten a message "Deactivated 4002" when they tried to load it to Bluebird? If so, how did you get it resolved?
Title: Re: Vanilla Reload
Post by: ajs625 on December 24, 2012, 07:01:03 PM
thx
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on December 24, 2012, 07:18:42 PM
True but what he also offers is sure fire ways to get deals killed.
True but he that will occur regardless of whether it gets linked to here.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: incendia on December 24, 2012, 07:33:26 PM
Is there a limit on how many MVDs you can register on one SS#.

Is there anyway to take the MVDs that I buy in CVS into a bank and cash out without using my SS#.
The reason I ask is that there is a CVS near me, that has MVDs and not VRs, and I dont want to buy 10 MVDs and be able to cash out all of them
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: U-no-me! on December 24, 2012, 07:36:17 PM
True but he that will occur regardless of whether it gets linked to here.

You make sense, my friend.

O0
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 24, 2012, 07:47:35 PM
Has anyone bought a vanilla reload and gotten a message "Deactivated 4002" when they tried to load it to Bluebird? If so, how did you get it resolved?
ya I just got that message as well. I went back to CVS where I bought it and they said that with the holidays and all, it can take up to 24 hrs to load the money. So I'm waiting it out
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moto on December 24, 2012, 08:01:43 PM
Walgreens at first told me cash only but I asked the guy to give it a try just to see maybe it will accept credit cards and it worked
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 24, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
ya I just got that message as well. I went back to CVS where I bought it and they said that with the holidays and all, it can take up to 24 hrs to load the money. So I'm waiting it out
Please keep us posted in here.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 24, 2012, 09:56:06 PM
Walgreens at first told me cash only but I asked the guy to give it a try just to see maybe it will accept credit cards and it worked
How many did he allow you to fill up? and was it in n.y. or n.j. ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: E R K on December 24, 2012, 10:00:48 PM
Is there a limit on how many MVDs you can register on one SS#.

Is there anyway to take the MVDs that I buy in CVS into a bank and cash out without using my SS#.
The reason I ask is that there is a CVS near me, that has MVDs and not VRs, and I dont want to buy 10 MVDs and be able to cash out all of them
I read somewhere that Dan said 3 to register them but not sure how everyone is able to do so many unless you have Very Large families! Would love to know also.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 24, 2012, 10:05:07 PM
Please keep us posted in here.
Just tried again now and bingo it worked! So I guess:  YVMV (Your Vanilla May Vay)  8) 8)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 24, 2012, 10:11:33 PM
I read somewhere that Dan said 3 to register them but not sure how everyone is able to do so many unless you have Very Large families! Would love to know also.
I have 3 registered now
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 24, 2012, 10:20:02 PM
I have 3 registered now
I have 4
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: E R K on December 24, 2012, 10:24:46 PM
I have 4
So there is no limit on an SS#?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 24, 2012, 10:26:42 PM
So there is no limit on an SS#?

No idea, I found VR after the 4th and have used the existing mvd accounts to cash out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: E R K on December 24, 2012, 10:28:16 PM

No idea, I found VR after the 4th and have used the existing mvd accounts to cash out.
Lucky you! none where I live.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 24, 2012, 10:30:16 PM
got the deactivated prompt and waited a few hours just tied again now and it worked
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 24, 2012, 10:32:14 PM
Lucky you! none where I live.

What state? I just found near me last week.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: E R K on December 24, 2012, 10:46:05 PM
What state? I just found near me last week.
Queens, NY
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: izzchuck on December 24, 2012, 11:27:45 PM
You can take out 2000 bucks from a moneypass ATM a month?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 24, 2012, 11:28:04 PM
Queens, NY

+1 :( racks always empty everywhere in queens like a DDF raid party just hit the place
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 24, 2012, 11:39:40 PM
True but he that will occur regardless of whether it gets linked to here.
The trick is to try and get the deals to last. Linking to MMA just gets more exposure and kills deals sooner. Just the way it works.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 24, 2012, 11:42:58 PM
You can take out 2000 bucks from a moneypass ATM a month?
yes I mentioned it before so far I have taken 1k with my bb card at no charge 500 yesterday and 500 today
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Devorah on December 24, 2012, 11:44:09 PM
yes I mentioned it before so far I have taken 1k with my bb card at no charge 500 yesterday and 500 today
Isnt there a $2 fee if u don't have DD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 25, 2012, 12:02:42 AM
+1 :( racks always empty everywhere in queens like a DDF raid party just hit the place

Went to staples on Sunday at abt 9 and there were a while lot of $200 visa gift cards later in the day when I went back there was none to be found. Seems like ppl are buying the highest amount prepaid non reloadable which makes no sense
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 25, 2012, 12:06:48 AM
Went to staples on Sunday at abt 9 and there were a while lot of $200 visa gift cards later in the day when I went back there was none to be found. Seems like ppl are buying the highest amount prepaid non reloadable which makes no sense
why doesn't it make sense?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 25, 2012, 12:23:57 AM
Bec you're paying 6.95 in fees per GC and can basically redeem them on amazon pymts. If I missed s/t pls fill me in.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Smart on December 25, 2012, 12:28:37 AM
Bec you're paying 6.95 in fees per GC and can basically redeem them on amazon pymts. If I missed s/t pls fill me in.

It's buying 1,035 UR for 6.95, not bad if you plan on buying something anyway, or to cash out thru AP if your limit is still not up for the month
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 25, 2012, 12:29:25 AM
Bec you're paying 6.95 in fees per GC and can basically redeem them on amazon pymts. If I missed s/t pls fill me in.
$200 x 5ppd = 1k UR points.
1k ur = $19
$19- 6 = 11
Profit = $11
+ spend requirement
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 25, 2012, 12:34:53 AM
Just trying to get a better understanding being that you'll only gain buying these GC's if you have chase Ink but you can use amazon payments and get 1k for $0
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 25, 2012, 12:45:08 AM
Just trying to get a better understanding being that you'll only gain buying these GC's if you have chase Ink but you can use amazon payments and get 1k for $0
You gotta learn how to think big.

With AP you get 1k ur for spending $1000 with a cap of 1k per month.

With staples you get 1k ur for spending $200 ($6) with no cap. (Cap is $50k per year)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on December 25, 2012, 12:52:32 AM
$200 x 5ppd = 1k UR points.
1k ur = $19
$19- 6 = 11
Profit = $11
+ spend requirement
+1. More profitable than VR
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 25, 2012, 12:55:22 AM

With staples you get 1k ur for spending $200 ($6) with no cap. (Cap is $50k per year)
he still has to cash out the 200 somewhere.
Besides you can do a lot 'bigger' with a $500 gc from OD with $5.95 fee = 2.5k UR
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 25, 2012, 01:01:20 AM
he still has to cash out the 200 somewhere.
True
Quote
Besides you can do a lot 'bigger' with a $500 gc from OD with $5.95 fee = 2.5k UR
I'm not disagreeing with that. The "OP" was trying to understand why people buy $200 gc's at staples,  so I was explaining ot to him.

In any case, what type of $500 gc are you finding at OD? I don't think such a thing exists.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 25, 2012, 01:06:28 AM
TrueI'm not disagreeing with that. The "OP" was trying to understand why people buy $200 gc's at staples,  so I was explaining ot to him.

In any case, what type of $500 gc are you finding at OD? I don't think such a thing exists.
  Sure they do. I purchased a few myself. They're regular visa gift cards $20-$500. They just need to be registered online with a zip code before cashing out on ap
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on December 25, 2012, 03:19:11 AM


In any case, what type of $500 gc are you finding at OD? I don't think such a thing exists.
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Vanilla visa and amex prepaid
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: whacked1 on December 25, 2012, 08:16:01 AM
Would net spend reload card work to load bb?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 25, 2012, 08:28:13 AM
Would net spend reload card work to load bb?
No
@Marktelefono it's a vanilla visa. Here's a picture of it(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/25/ydybu3ap.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on December 25, 2012, 11:28:34 AM
No
@Marktelefono it's a vanilla visa. Here's a picture of it(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/25/ydybu3ap.jpg)

Looks like you bought that at rite aid ("up reward") - what card did you use? Why was it worth it?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 25, 2012, 11:31:01 AM
Looks like you bought that at rite aid ("up reward") - what card did you use? Why was it worth it?
lol I actually googled a picture as I didn't have any gcs handy but ya:P
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 25, 2012, 07:09:37 PM
lol I actually googled a picture as I didn't have any gcs handy but ya:P
what is "up reward"
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 25, 2012, 11:59:53 PM
what is "up reward"
why aren't you living up to your name? :P
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 26, 2012, 12:46:34 AM
why aren't you living up to your name? :P
just lazy but thanx for telling me that's where I can find it
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Drago on December 26, 2012, 03:57:55 AM
$200 x 5ppd = 1k UR points.
1k ur = $19
$19- 6 = 11
Profit = $11
+ spend requirement
Aren't you missing something obvious here?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 26, 2012, 10:02:44 AM
Aren't you missing something obvious here?
he's cashing out with AP, obviously if you had to spend another $1.58 on VR that would eat out of your profits further.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 26, 2012, 10:19:09 AM
Aren't you missing something obvious here?
The only thing im missing is this deal now I know .
Do they allow you to buy the gift cards with a credit card ? do have mvd's  - vr's ?
Why did you only purchase $200 worth of cards?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 26, 2012, 10:24:35 AM
Aren't you missing something obvious here?
Possibly.  What would that be?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on December 26, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Possibly.  What would that be?
lol thanks for the vote of confidence
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 26, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
anyone know if u can load a vanilla reload onto a temporary MVD
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yellow on December 26, 2012, 01:54:17 PM
anyone know if u can load a vanilla reload onto a temporary MVD
Yes I was able to
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on December 26, 2012, 03:50:45 PM
anyone know if u can load a vanilla reload onto a temporary MVD

yes, but you may have to register it first
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 26, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
Without any credit history, would I get approved for a bluebird?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on December 26, 2012, 05:10:20 PM
Without any credit history, would I get approved for a bluebird?

Bluebird is not a credit card.   The only purchasing power your Bluebird card will carry, comes from any money that you put on the card ahead of time. Bluebird is not offering you a line of credit.  So the answer would be "Yes" you can get a bluebird card without any credit history.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on December 26, 2012, 05:12:25 PM
Without any credit history, would I get approved for a bluebird?
You first need to pass their rigorous interview process before you can even apply.

I'm kidding. Anyone can sign up for Bluebird.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 26, 2012, 05:22:29 PM
Apparently I can't. This is what I got after putting all the info:
Thank you for
choosing Bluebird.
Sorry, but we are unable to verify your information and cannot approve you for an Account at this time. If you feel that this was caused in error, please contact us by calling Customer Service at 1-877-486-5990.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MarkTelefono on December 26, 2012, 05:26:51 PM
Apparently I can't. This is what I got after putting all the info:
Thank you for
choosing Bluebird.
Sorry, but we are unable to verify your information and cannot approve you for an Account at this time. If you feel that this was caused in error, please contact us by calling Customer Service at 1-877-486-5990.

I don't see where they are denying you based on lack of credit history.  It sounds like the inability to verify your information is the issue (and they don't ask for credit history information).  Did you correctly fill in whatever questions or on the form.  Or better yet... did you call the phone number they provided....?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 26, 2012, 05:28:35 PM
Apparently I can't. This is what I got after putting all the info:
Thank you for
choosing Bluebird.
Sorry, but we are unable to verify your information and cannot approve you for an Account at this time. If you feel that this was caused in error, please contact us by calling Customer Service at 1-877-486-5990.
just call them, many ppl have gotten that response and were subsequently approved.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 26, 2012, 06:03:30 PM
I tried calling several times, and I go through the options for someone who doesn't have card number (lost,stolen or don't yet have a card), and it tells me to call a different number if my card was stolen, and then hangs up on me :(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 26, 2012, 06:09:25 PM
I tried calling several times, and I go through the options for someone who doesn't have card number (lost,stolen or don't yet have a card), and it tells me to call a different number if my card was stolen, and then hangs up on me :(
Hello xxxx,

Thank you for your recent registration for a Bluebird Account.

Unfortunately we are not able to validate your registration information at this time. In order for us to process your registration, please contact us at 1-866-290-5086 during the following business hours: Monday - Saturday, 6:00AM-6:00PM (MST).

Please be sure to call us within 2 weeks to ensure your registration is not cancelled.

Thanks, Bluebird
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 26, 2012, 06:12:09 PM
Has anyone tried to reload their Vanilla reload and gotten an error when checking out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 26, 2012, 06:23:41 PM
Has anyone tried to reload their Vanilla reload and gotten an error when checking out.
I called that number, got through, and they said there is nothing they can do as the system can't verify me, and it won't even give a reason! And "there's no higher-ups to talk to because everyone else gets the same message on their screen!  :(  This happen to anyone else? Anyone have any other recommendations?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 26, 2012, 06:25:48 PM
I called that number, got through, and they said there is nothing they can do as the system can't verify me, and it won't even give a reason! And "there's no higher-ups to talk to because everyone else gets the same message on their screen!  :(  This happen to anyone else? Anyone have any other recommendations?
insist on speaking to a supervisor. There's gotta be someone who knows more than the guy who picks up the phone.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Buruch on December 26, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
I did some HUCA and everyone says you can't talk to a supervisor. However, one guy gave me the link to the feedback department, and I gotta fax/mail in a complaint.  >:(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yellow on December 26, 2012, 06:45:05 PM
CVS on devon and crawford has some

So I basically read through this entire thread and bought 1 VR ($500) and one MVD ($500)
Can I load the $500 from the VR to the MVD and go to chase and get a CA for $1000?
I used BB in the past with VR's but would much rather get a cash advance

Edit:
When I try to register my MVD online it says to call a # and when I call and give my 16 digit card number it says it doesn't recognize the card? Do I need to wait up to 24 hours to activate? (according to the CVS reciept "prepaid card activation will occur within 24 hours" i've always been able to activate my cards instantly in the past)
Just got a CA from the bank for $1000 :)
Now can I do this again? (Buy VR, load 'em up on my MVD and cash them out?) Or is there a CA limit on these cards?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 26, 2012, 08:18:13 PM
Error that came when card was reloaded
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on December 26, 2012, 08:30:17 PM
Just got a CA from the bank for $1000 :)
Now can I do this again? (Buy VR, load 'em up on my MVD and cash them out?) Or is there a CA limit on these cards?

Should probably be fine.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 26, 2012, 08:32:15 PM
Error that came when card was reloaded
that's weird. Why didn't you show it to the clerk ? And why would you do $250 not $500 your paying the $3.95 anyways
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 26, 2012, 08:58:54 PM
Took a look at the self check out clerk and didn't want raise eyebrows as it is he said no CC with GC's but since I scanned it he authorized it
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 26, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
Took a look at the self check out clerk and didn't want raise eyebrows as it is he said no CC with GC's but since I scanned it he authorized it
well I guess their system doesn't really allow it... You tried loading it on a bb?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 26, 2012, 10:42:21 PM
Yes and get message "card is redeemed"
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 26, 2012, 10:54:22 PM
Yes and get message "card is redeemed"
you mean already redeemed?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 26, 2012, 11:42:17 PM
I redeemed the initial load of 500
Title: Re: Vanilla Reload
Post by: bem684 on December 27, 2012, 11:06:11 AM
Has anyone found either Vanilla Reload or MVD cards in the Monsey area?  Or Queens?  I live in Monsey and work in Queens a few days a week.  I have not found VR or MVD anywhere near Monsey and I checked many stores.  I'm in Bayside Queens and have only had the chance to check 2 pharmacies, but in all these places I"m finding OneVanilla and no VR or MVD.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on December 27, 2012, 01:23:43 PM
Took a look at the self check out clerk and didn't want raise eyebrows as it is he said no CC with GC's but since I scanned it he authorized it
which store? when i tried to self checkout a vr in cvs it did not scan, if that is what you did how?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on December 27, 2012, 02:35:36 PM
I just tried to buy MVD at two different cvs and both time after putting in the cc it said alternate form of payment required
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 28, 2012, 01:37:20 AM
Has anyone reloaded MVD few times and then cashed out? Anyone get any trouble from vanilla for doing it repeatedly? Please post your experience?  Also to get free ATM with BB you need automatic direct deposit, or you just have to make a direct deposit? Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ajs625 on December 28, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
which store? when i tried to self checkout a vr in cvs it did not scan, if that is what you did how?

CVS,  mine scanned at self checkout and asks you the amount, IDK what you may have done wrong
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 28, 2012, 09:01:11 AM
CVS,  mine scanned at self checkout and asks you the amount, IDK what you may have done wrong
ahh the closest thing to swiping a cc at your own cc processing machine 8)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yellow on December 28, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
Has anyone reloaded MVD few times and then cashed out? Anyone get any trouble from vanilla for doing it repeatedly? Please post your experience? 
Yes loaded my MVD a few times with VR's and then got CA's from bank. No problems so far

As a side point, was it one of you guys who hid the VR's behind the detergent in CVS in chicago?  :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ahecht37 on December 28, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
CVS,  mine scanned at self checkout and asks you the amount, IDK what you may have done wrong
vr or mvd?
Title: Re: Re: Vanilla Reload
Post by: Zalmy2 on December 30, 2012, 11:22:42 AM
Has anyone found either Vanilla Reload or MVD cards in the Monsey area?  Or Queens?  I live in Monsey and work in Queens a few days a week.  I have not found VR or MVD anywhere near Monsey and I checked many stores.  I'm in Bayside Queens and have only had the chance to check 2 pharmacies, but in all these places I"m finding OneVanilla and no VR or MVD.
was yesterday at Cvs on route 59 near suffern and they had over 20 of both. But they only let me take 2
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on December 30, 2012, 04:24:45 PM
I found vanilla reload cards but no vanilla debit card. can I purchase the vr without the debit card
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 30, 2012, 04:27:56 PM
I found vanilla reload cards but no vanilla debit card. can I purchase the vr without the debit card
? Vr loads on bb.@ mclovin I'm surprised at you O0
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on December 30, 2012, 04:35:38 PM
? Vr loads on bb.@ mclovin I'm surprised at you O0
I thought so. (riiight) I didn't need to reach a threshold in a while. in Dan's post on the main page it wasn't clear (imo) that you needed anything to buy it. Just making sure the clerk knew what she was talking about
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on December 31, 2012, 09:48:29 AM
when I buy a vr do I need to have a bb in the store with me or I load it online?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: george on December 31, 2012, 09:56:57 AM
when I buy a vr do I need to have a bb in the store with me or I load it online?
load it online
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: KidOOO on December 31, 2012, 01:11:05 PM
is it possible to make a wiki for this thread of is there one already?

I am trying to figure out the best way to go about using vanilla reload and BB for meeting my spending requirment,

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 31, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
when I buy a vr do I need to have a bb in the store with me or I load it online?
load it online
vanillareload.com. @mclovin I got your back  8)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on December 31, 2012, 01:37:25 PM
vanillareload.com.
that much i know. i was in family dollar and the vr cards said do not remove from store. give to cashier to do something with it (i forget what exactly). still waiting for my bb to come but want to try buying the vr now
@mclovin I got your back  8)
thanks
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on December 31, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
that much i know. i was in family dollar and the vr cards said do not remove from store. give to cashier to do something with it (i forget what exactly). still waiting for my bb to come but want to try buying the vr now
The only thing that comes to mind from what I've seen is that there no cash value until until given to the cashier
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on December 31, 2012, 01:57:21 PM
that much i know. i was in family dollar and the vr cards said do not remove from store. give to cashier to do something with it (i forget what exactly). still waiting for my bb to come but want to try buying the vr nowthanks
Yes your right, in some stores they just scan a generic card, then swipe your reloadable and the money goes directly on the card. However since CMIIW Family Dollar doesn't take Amex they won't  be able to load your Bluebird.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on December 31, 2012, 02:03:29 PM
Yes your right, in some stores they just scan a generic card, then swipe your reloadable and the money goes directly on the card. However since CMIIW Family Dollar doesn't take Amex they won't  be able to load your Bluebird.
i think they do take amex but wont accept cc for vr. they had a bunch of vr cards so i think they give you the actual card. cashier wouldnt sell it to me bec i had nothing to load it on though. could be she just didnt know what she was doing
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 31, 2012, 06:24:05 PM
i got in the mail my MVD cards, 3 of them what can i do with them now? are they worthless since i already cashed them out ?
should I close them ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: gingiboy5 on December 31, 2012, 07:04:31 PM
any way you can get cash from the onevanilla card?? i mistook it for the VR...i know rookie move....
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ash on December 31, 2012, 07:32:52 PM
cash out with Amazon Payments
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Devorah on December 31, 2012, 07:35:34 PM
i think they do take amex but wont accept cc for vr. they had a bunch of vr cards so i think they give you the actual card. cashier wouldnt sell it to me bec i had nothing to load it on though. could be she just didnt know what she was doing
Would they be able to load it onto a MVD card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on December 31, 2012, 09:47:50 PM
any way you can get cash from the onevanilla card?? i mistook it for the VR...i know rookie move....
dont beat yourself up it is a mistake alot of ppl. have made they are regular prepaid gift cards they are very easy to find much easier then the mvd or reload packs. trick is never pay $4.95 only $3.95. you are not stuck now you just wasted $4.95 go buy the reload packs $503.95 first swipe your prepaid vanilla gift card and your balance should be $3.95 (some stores system can only charge full amount so then first pay $3.95 cash then swipe your gift card for the $500 balance.  $4.95 is the only thing you will lose out look at it like a learning experience. good luck
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on December 31, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Yes loaded my MVD a few times with VR's and then got CA's from bank. No problems so far

As a side point, was it one of you guys who hid the VR's behind the detergent in CVS in chicago?  :P
the cards have no value technically(not saying this is moral or halacha allowed) you can take valueless card and then bring it back to checkout at a later date.... did I just open a can of worms?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on December 31, 2012, 09:57:26 PM
the cards have no value technically(not saying this is moral or halacha allowed) you can take valueless card and then bring it back to checkout at a later date.... did I just open a can of worms?
Technically they do have a value. No matter which way you cut it you are shoplifting.

Shoplifting: Theft of merchandise from a store or business establishment.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on December 31, 2012, 10:00:15 PM
the cards have no value technically(not saying this is moral or halacha allowed) you can take valueless card and then bring it back to checkout at a later date.... did I just open a can of worms?
Its been discussed here before if you can take them from a non-cc accepting store to a store that'll accepts cc for them.
I've asked store managers before (not for VR) and they said absolutely not.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on December 31, 2012, 11:17:19 PM
Shkoiach for asking!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: tll on December 31, 2012, 11:19:09 PM
Is there anything wrong with buying VR? I tried buying 2 $500 in one transaction on two different credit cards and got declined. Should I call the credit card company and question or is that asking for trouble?

Loading a bluebird account with VR to actually pay bills like mortgage, utilities- is there anything that can cause an F/R or is that what its for?

Thank you
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 12:41:51 AM
Technically they do have a value. No matter which way you cut it you are shoplifting.

Shoplifting: Theft of merchandise from a store or business establishment.
I said I am not justifing it I just put it out there also what if you will return to the same exact store to purchase it. also do you think it is ok to hide them within the store? maybe ask a manager what he thinks about that...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2013, 12:45:20 AM
I said I am not justifing it I just put it out there also what if you will return to the same exact store to purchase it. also do you think it is ok to hide them within the store? maybe ask a manager what he thinks about that...

 ::)
Do us all a favor and don't ask the manager if you can hide the cards. We don't need them to start keeping them behind the counter.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 12:46:45 AM
Is there anything wrong with buying VR? I tried buying 2 $500 in one transaction on two different credit cards and got declined. Should I call the credit card company and question or is that asking for trouble?

Loading a bluebird account with VR to actually pay bills like mortgage, utilities- is there anything that can cause an F/R or is that what its for?

Thank you
not sure how this would trigger a fr unless it is different then your normal spending patterns.. NO IT IS NOT MADE FOR THESE PURPOSES. It is simplly made to load prepaid debit cards and use the debit card as normal everyday shopping. answer your first question in my experiance you need to purchase each card in seperate transactions.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 12:48:19 AM

 ::)
Do us all a favor and don't ask the manager if you can hide the cards. We don't need them to start keeping them behind the counter.
I was not the one who said he asked a manager if he can take the card to another store........I wasn't serious
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2013, 12:54:56 AM
I was not the one who said he asked a manager if he can take the card to another store........I wasn't serious
I was the one that asked a manager.  The difference is that in my scenario there wasn't much of a risk of a negative impact on others.

I asked the kohls manager if I can take Lowe's gift cards to another store.

If its something that could cause negative ramifications in the long run I would have never done it.



Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 01:00:43 AM
I was the one that asked a manager.  The difference is that in my scenario there wasn't much of a risk of a negative impact on others.

I asked the kohls manager if I can take Lowe's gift cards to another store.

If its something that could cause negative ramifications in the long run I would have never done it.
let me guess for the fathers day michaels $40 for $50 lowes deal?

also that might be different because you are taking them to a different chain let alone another branch I was talking about same brand same location...might be different   besides since when do you trust b&m managers I find they make stuff up as they go..
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2013, 01:15:17 AM
also that might be different because you are taking them to a different chain let alone another branch I was talking about same brand same location...might be different   besides since when do you trust b&m managers I find they make stuff up as they go..
I'm afraid you kinda missed the boat.

I don't think I told the manager anything about going to a different chain. I asked then if I can take blank worthless valueless cards with for now to load at a later time.

I've had the same scenario in other instances as well (rather not post publicly, but you can pm if you really wanna know), and the manager didn't let.

The idea here is not to bring attention to the matter at hand - whether its with the cashier or the manager, don't discuss these things.
The less talked about, the better off you are.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 08:41:49 AM
I'm afraid you kinda missed the boat.

I don't think I told the manager anything about going to a different chain. I asked then if I can take blank worthless valueless cards with for now to load at a later time.

I've had the same scenario in other instances as well (rather not post publicly, but you can pm if you really wanna know), and the manager didn't let.

The idea here is not to bring attention to the matter at hand - whether its with the cashier or the manager, don't discuss these things.
The less talked about, the better off you are.
Just to clarify I never asked or plan on asking any manager or cashier so what boat did I miss?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: tll on January 01, 2013, 12:21:02 PM
not sure how this would trigger a fr unless it is different then your normal spending patterns.. NO IT IS NOT MADE FOR THESE PURPOSES. It is simplly made to load prepaid debit cards and use the debit card as normal everyday shopping. answer your first question in my experiance you need to purchase each card in seperate transactions.
different then your normal spending patterns? How many people spend a few thousand dollars at a pharmacy like CVS? I am buying gift cards. What I do with them has nothing to do with the credit card company.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 01, 2013, 01:29:05 PM
The MVD gig will surely soon be up (http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2013/01/01/buying-money-with-money-for-the-miles-how-to-go-beyond-bluebirds-5000-a-month-limit-and-how-you-can-play-even-without-vanilla-reload-cards-2/).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on January 01, 2013, 01:33:57 PM
well this explains my family dollar store experience
Quote
Attempt #2. I head to the Dollar General which has slightly different Vanilla Reload cards. Instead of the typical scratch off pin on the back, it’s just a piece of cardboard you take to the register. At this location they had no problems with my request for $1500 nor a problem with me paying by credit card. The problem was the Vanilla Reload card. This version apparently loads the funds directly into your account (no pin required), but the system didn’t like my Bluebird card and rejected every attempt.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 01, 2013, 02:58:25 PM
The MVD gig will surely soon be up.
This could get ugly.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on January 01, 2013, 03:28:09 PM
This could get ugly.
what you mean
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
different then your normal spending patterns? How many people spend a few thousand dollars at a pharmacy like CVS? I am buying gift cards. What I do with them has nothing to do with the credit card company.
yes If it is a few thousand but if you refer back to his question he said he was attempting to purchase 2x $500. if someone spend monthly $5,000-$10,000 this will not trigger a fr.

but in your case where yo are saying your patterns are smaller spending overall  and you begin to start buying thousands of dollars in vr cards then you are likely to trigger fr
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 03:30:28 PM
yes If it is a few thousand but if you refer back to his question he said he was attempting to purchase 2x $500. if someone spend monthly $5,000-$10,000 this will not trigger a fr.

but in your case where yo are saying your patterns are smaller spending overall  and you begin to start buying thousands of dollars in vr cards then you are likely to trigger fr
I think he means ppl. are relying on this method for threshold spending aka opening cc then being sol if they pull this method....  It did happen at office depot
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 01, 2013, 03:32:58 PM
what you mean
When deals get killed people get blamed. It usually ends in personal and nasty comments. DD will get full credit when this one dies.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on January 01, 2013, 03:34:08 PM
When deals get killed people get blamed. It usually ends in personal and nasty comments. DD will get full credit when this one dies.
yea probably
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
And "DD" figured it out as well.
Catch-22 to blame the public dissemination of info.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 01, 2013, 03:48:30 PM
And "DD" figured it out as well.Catch-22 to blame the public dissemination of info.
First to post about it.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mgarfin on January 01, 2013, 04:06:04 PM
Hi just got back from wall-greens and I am confused

They have tons of vanilla visa cards (black packaging)

Is this what we are looking for?
Can I cash these out?
any pic's?


Thanks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on January 01, 2013, 04:37:09 PM
Hi just got back from wall-greens and I am confused

They have tons of vanilla visa cards (black packaging)

Is this what we are looking for?
Can I cash these out?
any pic's?


Thanks
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/26616 the one on left in pic is to unload via cash advance at a bank. the one on right is to load up bluebird or the one on left. if you make a mistake and buy wrong one you can unload via amazon payments
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mgarfin on January 01, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/26616 the one on left in pic is to unload via cash advance at a bank. the one on right is to load up bluebird or the one on left. if you make a mistake and buy wrong one you can unload via amazon payments

So this one is not available at my local Shop rite, Walgreen, path-mark, 
Duane reade had them but insisted to charge sales tax
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2013, 05:03:33 PM
So this one is not available at my local Shop rite, Walgreen, path-mark, 
Duane reade had them but insisted to charge sales tax
They have a (5.95?) fee. There shouldn't be sales tax.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mgarfin on January 01, 2013, 05:05:56 PM
Your right but
I was talking to a wall
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 01, 2013, 06:04:51 PM
The only place I have seen VR in queens is cvs, they same sold out everywhere else. I took 2 to self check out attempting to pay with my Amex gc. I swiped the first reload, entered my "number" of 496.05 and then it called someone for assistance. That person said since I was activating it had to be done at the register.
The guy at the register was really nice, he didnt know if i could use anything other than cash but had no problem letting me try. i tried using the Amex gc but his screen said "tender type not valid." I reached desperately for a different cc I had on me (citi forward) and that too was tender type not valid. He showed me the screen and everything.
Has anyone gotten that before? Does it not work at some locations but it does at others? I would've thought their registers all use the same technology.
I'm thinking of using cash just to get it and then reloading with cc at Walgreens, rite aid etc because I want one already. I already got my mvd in the mail and in anxious.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
And "DD" figured it out as well.
Catch-22 to blame the public dissemination of info.
http://millionmilesecrets.com/2012/10/22/american-express-bluebird/
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892
same day as you. who was first?

sorry dan you where clearly beat on this one.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milesbuzz/1395628-wal-mart-amex-take-banks-bluebird-debit-card.html
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2013, 06:14:46 PM
http://millionmilesecrets.com/2012/10/22/american-express-bluebird/
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24892
same day as you. who was first?

sorry dan you where clearly beat on this one.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milesbuzz/1395628-wal-mart-amex-take-banks-bluebird-debit-card.html
What does that have to do with MVD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 06:17:47 PM
What does that have to do with MVD?
+1
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 06:19:02 PM
I thought dan was saying he was first to post about bluebird-vanilla reload.. If he meant mvd only that can be possible I have bought mvd before dans idea about citi ca and walked into walmart cashier loaded $499.50 onto my bluebird payed with mvd as debit with pin number there is a $0.50 fee but easier for me then going into citi and doing a ca I did this weeks before the post about the new flavor..
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 06:21:11 PM
Nutcase, please don't take things out of context...

The MVD gig will surely soon be up (http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2013/01/01/buying-money-with-money-for-the-miles-how-to-go-beyond-bluebirds-5000-a-month-limit-and-how-you-can-play-even-without-vanilla-reload-cards-2/).
This could get ugly.
When deals get killed people get blamed. It usually ends in personal and nasty comments. DD will get full credit when this one dies.
And "DD" figured it out as well.
Catch-22 to blame the public dissemination of info.

First to post about it.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 06:28:30 PM
Nutcase, please don't take things out of context...
you are right I did not catch mr. helpme said you posted it first so he gets the blame.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
you are right I did not catch mr. helpme said you posted it first so he gets the blame.
You are seriously confused. VR and MVD are 2 totally different things.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 01, 2013, 06:37:21 PM
I thought dan was saying he was first to post about bluebird-vanilla reload.. If he meant mvd only that can be possible I have bought mvd before dans idea about citi ca and walked into walmart cashier loaded $499.50 onto my bluebird payed with mvd as debit with pin number there is a $0.50 fee but easier for me then going into citi and doing a ca I did this weeks before the post about the new flavor..
??? ??? :o :o :-\
You loaded a bb with a MVD??
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
??? ??? :o :o :-\
You loaded a bb with a MVD??
yes I did this in november went into walmart payed at cashier  $499.50
Need to use pin with mvd totally my own mehalach.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 01, 2013, 07:01:52 PM
yes I did this in november went into walmart payed at cashier  $499.50
Why?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
Why?
Why what
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: joesol on January 01, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
anyway to sum up the Bluebird deal? 68 pages is a lot to go through.

Thanks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 01, 2013, 07:13:25 PM
Why what
Load a BB with a MVD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 01, 2013, 07:14:21 PM
anyway to sum up the Bluebird deal? 68 pages is a lot to go through.

Thanks

Set up a BB account for free, load it with "vanilla reloads" that can be purchased (and reloaded) with CC. Cash it out by sending yourself checks or using it for other bills.
You will have to read for locations, limits, other rules, and fees.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 01, 2013, 07:31:50 PM
Load a BB with a MVD?
easier to find then vr Places that have them are crazy about only using cash no c.c, need to ask manager,allow only $500 limit per day so can only buy 1 at a shot...blah...blah
 they don't carry them in my area
as far as cashing out the mvd easier then going into citi bank
What do you suggest mr helpme?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: joesol on January 02, 2013, 01:41:15 PM
Set up a BB account for free, load it with "vanilla reloads" that can be purchased (and reloaded) with CC. Cash it out by sending yourself checks or using it for other bills.
You will have to read for locations, limits, other rules, and fees.
Thanks so much
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 02, 2013, 02:21:07 PM
Can anyone confirm which banks in Lakewood accept mvd's as a cash advance?
Title: Vanilla Reloads and blubird
Post by: gt on January 02, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
i no this may already exist but its not to clear

can someone please give a thorough and easy to understand explanation of of this whole vanilla reloads and bluebird works for us new guys
Title: Re: Vanilla Reloads and blubird
Post by: Shmelly on January 02, 2013, 04:22:31 PM
i no this may already exist but its not to clear

can someone please give a thorough and easy to understand explanation of of this whole vanilla reloads and bluebird works for us new guys
What's the last 16 digits of your credit card? I will also need the security code and billing zipcode. Once I have that I can give you instructions.
Title: Re: Vanilla Reloads and blubird
Post by: nutcase on January 02, 2013, 05:09:00 PM
What's the last 16 digits of your credit card? I will also need the security code and billing zipcode. Once I have that I can give you instructions.
no need to be mean..
yes here is simple instructions.
1. go to https://bluebird.com/ sign up for account(If you have a serve account you need to cancel that first) wait 7- 10 business days to actually receive the card
2. go purchase a vanilla reload pack @ any location that sells them(https://www.vanillareload.com/ click locations) say you want to load $500(max allowed) swipe c.c for $503.95
3.wait 15 min after purchase(some locations) go to https://www.vanillareload.com put in bluebird account number and pin from your reload pack and the $500 is now in your bluebird account
4.you have $500 in your bluebird account you can send straight to your c.c or send a check to anyone in the u.s.a(5 business days)FOR FREE
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 02, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
I also have instructions.
1. go to https://bluebird.com/ sign up for account(If you have a serve account you need to cancel that first) wait 7- 10 business days to actually receive the card
2. go purchase a vanilla reload pack @ any location that sells them(https://www.vanillareload.com/ click locations) say you want to load $500(max allowed) swipe c.c for $503.95
3.wait 15 min after purchase(some locations) go to https://www.vanillareload.com put in bluebird account number and pin from your reload pack and the $500 is now in your bluebird account
4.you have $500 in your bluebird account you can send straight to your c.c or send a check to anyone in the u.s.a(5 business days)FOR FREE

I did not mean to be mean, I'm not one of those "repost!" nazis that litter these boards. But there is hardly a page of this thread that does not have clear cut, step by step instructions. I have never touched VR nor MVD nor Bluebird yet I can tell you exactly how to do it in my sleep . The above poster with the question could have read 2 pages - any 2 pages - and found either precise instructions or a link to another blog with precise instructions. Even pictures!

I apologize if I came across as mean.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 02, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
It gets a bit confusing for a noobie alto if talk about vr then mvd. Proof is look how many ppl. Went and bought vanilla prepaid card. Point being not so bad to spell it out in noobie  terms
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 02, 2013, 06:23:14 PM
It gets a bit confusing for a noobie alto if talk about vr then mvd. Proof is look how many ppl. Went and bought vanilla prepaid card. Point being not so bad to spell it out in noobie  terms

That's not proof of anything.

Have you seen some of the commenters on DD?

Post says:

This is ONLY valid with a stopover!

Comment #1: Dan I tried non-stop and it's not working!!

Comment #2: This is sooo dumb, I need non-stop and it's so much more expensive than Dan says!

Comment #3: Dan, ure soo not Jewish cuz ure sugestin people be mevatel torah by flying on a bus in the sky (i maybe think they call this an airplane) when they shud be lerning torah. such apikorsus. so sad.



The only thing this is PROOF of is that people don't bother to spend even the bare minimum to read.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 02, 2013, 06:31:52 PM

The only thing this is PROOF of is that people don't bother to spend even the bare minimum to read.

+ 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 02, 2013, 06:42:58 PM
It gets a bit confusing for a noobie alto if talk about vr then mvd. Proof is look how many ppl. Went and bought vanilla prepaid card. Point being not so bad to spell it out in noobie  terms
Dan posted a picture on the main site. It doesn't get clearer than that.
And as Ajk said, people don't know how to read.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 02, 2013, 06:47:06 PM
Can anyone confirm which banks in Lakewood accept mvd's as a cash advance?
Seems like all banks can do it. I dont think you have to have account there either. Cant tell you forsure since I have in BOA and Chase. But they didnt use any of my info
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 02, 2013, 06:50:47 PM
And as Ajk said, people don't know how to read.
Let me get this straight. Without a stopover I can't use MVD card?  :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: rots5 on January 02, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
why no wiki?! can we even add pics?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 02, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
why no wiki?! can we even add pics?
Anyone that understands this enough to create a wiki probably also understands why it would be a bad idea to create one.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 02, 2013, 07:12:20 PM


Didn't work for me by BoA and sovereign on the 9. They finally did it for me by chase on Kennedy (thanks robi)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2013, 07:15:28 PM
That's not proof of anything.

Have you seen some of the commenters on DD?

Post says:

This is ONLY valid with a stopover!

Comment #1: Dan I tried non-stop and it's not working!!

Comment #2: This is sooo dumb, I need non-stop and it's so much more expensive than Dan says!

Comment #3: Dan, ure soo not Jewish cuz ure sugestin people be mevatel torah by flying on a bus in the sky (i maybe think they call this an airplane) when they shud be lerning torah. such apikorsus. so sad.



The only thing this is PROOF of is that people don't bother to spend even the bare minimum to read.
Welcome to my life :)
Title: Re: Vanilla Reloads and blubird
Post by: gt on January 02, 2013, 07:17:37 PM
What's the last 16 digits of your credit card? I will also need the security code and billing zipcode. Once I have that I can give you instructions.
im sorry for asking

It gets a bit confusing for a noobie alto if talk about vr then mvd. Proof is look how many ppl. Went and bought vanilla prepaid card. Point being not so bad to spell it out in noobie  terms
What's the last 16 digits of your credit card? I will also need the security code and billing zipcode. Once I have that I can give you instructions.
  thank you very much for your help
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: rots5 on January 02, 2013, 07:27:15 PM
Welcome to my life :)
and welcome to ours...na...that didnt make sense but sounded funny  :D :D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 02, 2013, 07:48:21 PM
After 2 months of searching I finally found MVD in Brooklyn! My heart leaped for joy. Dollar signs rolled through my eyes.

And then the manager said I couldn't pay with a credit card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 02, 2013, 07:55:34 PM
Welcome to my life :)
feel for you Dan.. What do you think about my mvd to bb via walmart as debit with pin for a $.50 fee?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 02, 2013, 08:00:02 PM
Didn't work for me by BoA and sovereign on the 9. They finally did it for me by chase on Kennedy (thanks robi)
you can just use my method. Go to walmart in howell.go to any checkout lane tell them you want to load your bluebird(if you have one that was mailed to you not the temp. Card) tell them to put $499.50 then swipe mvd enter pin(you need to create one online when activating mvd)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 02, 2013, 08:03:52 PM
you can just use my method. Go to walmart in howell.go to any checkout lane tell them you want to load your bluebird(if you have one that was mailed to you not the temp. Card) tell them to put $499.50 then swipe mvd enter pin(you need to create one online when activating mvd)

how is that easier/better than going to chase and getting cash?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 02, 2013, 09:29:57 PM
how is that easier/better than going to chase and getting cash?
Not every bank is going to do it for you most won't seems like you spent some time going into many banks. Plus your in lakewood give it 2 weeks and no local bank will do it.I am not saying it is easier for you. But my method is guaranteed to work not a question if they want to do it like the bank method. They are Always open 24hrs.(Howell) .again in my opinion it is easier and reliable
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 02, 2013, 09:32:03 PM
you can just use my method. Go to walmart in howell.go to any checkout lane tell them you want to load your bluebird(if you have one that was mailed to you not the temp. Card) tell them to put $499.50 then swipe mvd enter pin(you need to create one online when activating mvd)

I don't get it, why don't you put the VR's directly onto your bluebird?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 02, 2013, 09:54:19 PM
I don't get it, why don't you put the VR's directly onto your bluebird?

+1, this is the point.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mclovin on January 02, 2013, 09:58:58 PM
bec its not so simple to find a place that will sell you a vr with a cc. but the mvd is easier
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: bubbles on January 02, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
If he meant mvd only that can be possible I have bought mvd before dans idea about citi ca and walked into walmart cashier loaded $499.50 onto my bluebird payed with mvd as debit with pin number there is a $0.50 fee but easier for me then going into citi and doing a ca I did this weeks before the post about the new flavor..

I don't get it, why don't you put the VR's directly onto your bluebird?

he was talking about mvd's not vr's
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 02, 2013, 10:07:33 PM
he was talking about mvd's not vr's
bec its not so simple to find a place that will sell you a vr with a cc. but the mvd is easier

I'm quite aware of that, but how is he loading the MVD after the initial load. To get a pin you have to register, and according to reports you can only register 3, so does this mehalech limited to $1500.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on January 02, 2013, 10:11:43 PM
I'm quite aware of that, but how is he loading the MVD after the initial load. To get a pin you have to register, and according to reports you can only register 3, so does this mehalech limited to $1500.

I have 4
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 02, 2013, 10:19:24 PM
I have 4

Either way this doesn't scale nicely, there's gotta be a limit know how many the will let you register.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 02, 2013, 10:31:27 PM
Either way this doesn't scale nicely, there's gotta be a limit know how many the will let you register.
I do not know the limit on mvd's but my method def. Aother option..I am wondering why this is limited to only mvd it would also work on any reloadable debit card that you can pay at walmart with a pin. Obviously green dot is out because (most stores system)will only accept  cash. .but I have seen many other reloadable debit cards in fact at large supermarkets (paging all Amex blue) 6%cashback is not as good as 5x ur points but it ain't to shabby
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: elikay on January 02, 2013, 10:39:01 PM
wiki'd thanks nutcase
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 02, 2013, 10:41:24 PM
I do not know the limit on mvd's but my method def. Aother option..I am wondering why this is limited to only mvd it would also work on any reloadable debit card that you can pay at walmart with a pin. Obviously green dot is out because (most stores system)will only accept  cash. .but I have seen many other reloadable debit cards in fact at large supermarkets (paging all Amex blue) 6%cashback is not as good as 5x ur points but it ain't to shabby

So is that what you are doing? Buy MVD, register it, load to BB then toss MVD?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 02, 2013, 11:30:02 PM
So is that what you are doing? Buy MVD, register it, load to BB then toss MVD?
yes when I can't find vr (very hard to find) fun thing about it is you can do this method at 2am!(my optimal hours) 24 hour cvs and register the mvd on my smartphone on the way,then hop into 24 hour wally. lol!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 03, 2013, 12:12:57 AM
does the cash advance method work on prepaid visa/mc/amex cards also? if not why is mvd different?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on January 03, 2013, 12:13:35 AM
does the cash advance method work on prepaid visa/mc/amex cards also? if not why is mvd different?
mvD
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 03, 2013, 12:51:09 AM
wiki'd thanks nutcase
-1000
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 03, 2013, 12:52:02 AM
-1000

??
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 03, 2013, 12:55:04 AM
??
Anyone that understands this enough to create a wiki probably also understands why it would be a bad idea to create one.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 03, 2013, 01:33:18 AM

I hear you. but do you think this is a good idea??
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23520.0
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 03, 2013, 02:49:18 AM
I hear you. but do you think this is a good idea??
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23520.0
Is what a good idea, the thread?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 03, 2013, 05:21:48 AM
Is what a good idea, the thread?
you are saying to try to keep things on the down low. is that not exposed?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on January 03, 2013, 08:34:26 AM
It has been over 3 weeks, I have not received my permanent Mvd, is someone in the same boat?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 03, 2013, 10:44:35 AM
It has been over 3 weeks, I have not received my permanent Mvd, is someone in the same boat?
More like a cruise ship.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 03, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
It has been over 3 weeks, I have not received my permanent Mvd, is someone in the same boat?

I bought a temp on 12/12, received permanent just a few days ago, so it wasn't exactly quick.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 03, 2013, 12:04:42 PM
a little OT but does anyone know if its possible to buy paypal reload cards with a cc?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 03, 2013, 12:16:14 PM
I ordered one online and it came really quickly.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aryeh1 on January 03, 2013, 12:18:42 PM
I ordered one online and it came really quickly.
A vanilla reload card ?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 03, 2013, 12:21:41 PM
A vanilla reload card ?

No a MVD from myvanilladebitcard.com
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: alpicone on January 03, 2013, 01:33:35 PM
I bought a temp on 12/12, received permanent just a few days ago, so it wasn't exactly quick.

Same here. Ordered 3 weeks ago... came in the mail yesterday.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 03, 2013, 02:17:32 PM
a little OT but does anyone know if its possible to buy paypal reload cards with a cc?
Green dot is cash only
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 03, 2013, 02:23:59 PM
Green dot is cash only

Says you.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 03, 2013, 02:27:29 PM
Green dot is cash only
Not green dot. I saw last night a "Paypal reload card" with the paypal logo. I gonna go try it as soon as my new inks come...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 03, 2013, 02:35:54 PM
a little OT but does anyone know if its possible to buy paypal reload cards with a cc?

Yes. But buyer beware.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Zalmy2 on January 03, 2013, 03:12:37 PM
Yes. But buyer beware.
beware of?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 03, 2013, 03:26:16 PM
beware of?

Wrath of paypal.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 03, 2013, 03:34:53 PM
Wrath of paypal.
(On the t&c on the pp reload card is says nothing about cash/cc)
Can they do more than shut me down? Is there a risk to the actual funds?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 03:43:55 PM
Is there a risk to the actual funds?
Yes.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on January 03, 2013, 08:03:43 PM
I bought a temp on 12/12, received permanent just a few days ago, so it wasn't exactly quick.
Thanks for the info. I bought on 12/11, I still have not gotten it yet.  :(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 03, 2013, 10:04:58 PM
Applied for bluebird under my name got back message can't verify tried my wife's name and ss same thing called up the number waited very long till spoke to representative got transferred waited over 1 hour and got disconnected,what else is there to do?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 03, 2013, 10:20:27 PM
Applied for bluebird under my name got back message can't verify tried my wife's name and ss same thing called up the number waited very long till spoke to representative got transferred waited over 1 hour and got disconnected,what else is there to do?
you must have a serve account if so you need to close it first you must enter exact same information as when you signed up for serve with bluebird
prob. signed up for the $20 when you load $200 deal on serve
https://www.serve.com/
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 03, 2013, 11:06:35 PM
you must have a serve account if so you need to close it first you must enter exact same information as when you signed up for serve with bluebird
prob. signed up for the $20 when you load $200 deal on serve
https://www.serve.com/
Don't have one any other ideas?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 03, 2013, 11:51:49 PM
Don't have one any other ideas?
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not really... any other predaid amex(reloadable)?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on January 04, 2013, 10:36:38 AM
i just got going with the reloads as they finally showed up at my local cvs.
so ive been paying bills etc.
if i want to do an atm withdrawal at money pass atm the fee uis $2 and 500 max per day adn 2000 per month?
i read on the bluebird site something about a decline fee being waived what is that exactly?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 04, 2013, 10:47:56 AM
i just got going with the reloads as they finally showed up at my local cvs.
so ive been paying bills etc.
if i want to do an atm withdrawal at money pass atm the fee uis $2 and 500 max per day adn 2000 per month?
i read on the bluebird site something about a decline fee being waived what is that exactly?

Actually ATM withdrawals should be $0 fee (you can link bluebird's routing and account number into paypal or your outside bank account for ACH transfer, which Bluebird will count as a 'direct deposit' and waive the $2 fee).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 04, 2013, 11:07:16 AM
Actually ATM withdrawals should be $0 fee (you can link bluebird's routing and account number into paypal or your outside bank account for ACH transfer, which Bluebird will count as a 'direct deposit' and waive the $2 fee).
or AP
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 04, 2013, 11:30:05 AM
Applied for bluebird under my name got back message can't verify tried my wife's name and ss same thing called up the number waited very long till spoke to representative got transferred waited over 1 hour and got disconnected,what else is there to do?
spoke to representative, came down to being a problem applying on ipad just reapplied with a different email add on a regular computer and got approved.
Lesson from this is do not apply from mobile device   
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: izzchuck on January 04, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
My bluebird card takes like 20 Tries at the atm. Anyone else have this issue? Also, I understand that Amazon payments Are frowned on by amex. Do You guys think that doing vanilla reloads is risky too?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 04, 2013, 12:54:53 PM
My bluebird card takes like 20 Tries at the atm. Anyone else have this issue? Also, I understand that Amazon payments Are frowned on by amex. Do You guys think that doing vanilla reloads is risky too?

Buying VR from a store? If the account says $500 at CVS how would they even know what you bought?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: izzchuck on January 04, 2013, 02:37:06 PM
Buying VR from a store? If the account says $500 at CVS how would they even know what you bought?
not worried about the first few times but don't You think it looks odd to have so Many 500$ purchases in the dame store?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on January 04, 2013, 02:51:57 PM
Actually ATM withdrawals should be $0 fee (you can link bluebird's routing and account number into paypal or your outside bank account for ACH transfer, which Bluebird will count as a 'direct deposit' and waive the $2 fee).
Is linking to a checking account enough? or do you have to make a transfers? Do you have the link to that on Bluebirds site? Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 05, 2013, 04:55:53 PM
not worried about the first few times but don't You think it looks odd to have so Many 500$ purchases in the dame store?
Mix it up with regular spending. If you have a couple cards to meet thresholds. do 500 on each one, one week and do another 500 on each card another week.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 05, 2013, 05:01:03 PM
Also, I understand that Amazon payments Are frowned on by amex. Do You guys think that doing vanilla reloads is risky too?
AP is definitely a FR trigger along with any unusual spending. I would suggest that with AMEX do as much regular spending and other cards do VR and AP. I find citi, barclays, BOA not so strict with these things. Meanwhile, chase not as much as AMEX but still use your brains.   
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shkop on January 05, 2013, 07:47:48 PM
I just received the Blue bird  :D. I jump onto dans to get the low down and there are 74 pages on BB. Can someone PLEASE summarize big bird in a few  paragraphs. All the parts that a dans fan needs to know and any other good stuff. Thanks.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 05, 2013, 08:06:13 PM
I just received the Blue bird  :D. I jump onto dans to get the low down and there are 74 pages on BB. Can someone PLEASE summarize big bird in a few  paragraphs. All the parts that a dans fan needs to know and any other good stuff. Thanks.
thats what we have wiki (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21024.0) for
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: izzchuck on January 05, 2013, 09:13:20 PM
AP is definitely a FR trigger along with any unusual spending. I would suggest that with AMEX do as much regular spending and other cards do VR and AP. I find citi, barclays, BOA not so strict with these things. Meanwhile, chase not as much as AMEX but still use your brains.   
like everything else in life ???
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 05, 2013, 11:43:28 PM
I just received the Blue bird  :D. I jump onto dans to get the low down and there are 74 pages on BB. Can someone PLEASE summarize big bird in a few  paragraphs. All the parts that a dans fan needs to know and any other good stuff. Thanks.
skip step 1 as you did that already...

1. go to https://bluebird.com/ sign up for account(If you have a serve account you need to cancel that first) wait 7- 10 business days to actually receive the card
2. go purchase a vanilla reload pack @ any location that sells them(https://www.vanillareload.com/ click locations) say you want to load $500(max allowed) swipe c.c for $503.95 (this is the hard part, as many stores/clerks do not accept cc for vanilla reloads, ymmv even within the same store)
3.wait 15 min after purchase(some locations) go to https://www.vanillareload.com put in bluebird account number and pin from your reload pack and the $500 is now in your bluebird account
4.you have $500 in your bluebird account you can send straight to your c.c or send a check to anyone in the u.s.a(5 business days)FOR FREE
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Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 06, 2013, 02:37:21 PM
AP is definitely a FR trigger along with any unusual spending. I would suggest that with AMEX do as much regular spending and other cards do VR and AP. I find citi, barclays, BOA not so strict with these things. Meanwhile, chase not as much as AMEX but still use your brains.
Credit cards companies can't see your actual purchase just the purchase amount and the store..how would they know your purchasing vr's?
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 06, 2013, 03:07:31 PM
I actually had a different experience. I don't know if they just have access or if they actually view receipts. But I was missing a receipt for a return and AMEX provided me with a receipt that was itemized. I don't think they actually scrutinize the receipts but they definitely have access to them. I mean you sign it and it has your card number on it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 06, 2013, 04:13:19 PM
I actually had a different experience. I don't know if they just have access or if they actually view receipts. But I was missing a receipt for a return and AMEX provided me with a receipt that was itemized. I don't think they actually scrutinize the receipts but they definitely have access to them. I mean you sign it and it has your card number on it.

I'd like to hear more. Something doesn't add up here...

Store?
Exact card?
Item?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 06, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
I actually had a different experience. I don't know if they just have access or if they actually view receipts. But I was missing a receipt for a return and AMEX provided me with a receipt that was itemized. I don't think they actually scrutinize the receipts but they definitely have access to them. I mean you sign it and it has your card number on it.
Was the purchase made on a business card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 06, 2013, 05:25:12 PM
An amex FR rep asked me once "What was this $1000 charge from Amazon, was it for a cash advance?" I got the impression that she had no way of actually knowing though we both knew that she knew. .. I said no, it was a large purchase etc she said Ohhh.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 06, 2013, 05:26:53 PM
Was the purchase made on a business card?

I'm not sure why that makes a difference.

Had you asked if it was a "Corporate" card, though...
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 06, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Credit cards companies can't see your actual purchase just the purchase amount and the store..how would they know your purchasing vr's?
They won't but 4 1k purchases from the same store....ring ring ring

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 06, 2013, 05:39:02 PM
I'm not sure why that makes a difference.

Had you asked if it was a "Corporate" card, though...
I thought there was a service offered for business cards that would show each item. Amex would have to pay for this but maybe I am just confused.

ETA:
Level 3 Data Credit Card Processing (level III)

To have your transactions qualify for level 3 pricing, you must use a certified product that collects and submits the data properly to Visa/MC.
 
    Required Data to Qualify for Level 3: 1.Standard Info - credit card number & exp, billing address, zip code & invoice number.
 2.Customer Code - no longer required, but encouraged if they have it.
3.Sales Tax - an amount must be submitted separately from the total transaction amount.
 4.Freight Amount - If unavailable, enter $0.00
5.Duty Amount - If unavailable, enter $0.00
6.Line Item Details: ◦Product / Service ID (item ID)
◦Product / Service Description
◦Quantity
◦Item Amount (like $100)
◦Unit of Measure

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: eis517 on January 06, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
I just saw a whole bunch of vr cards at my local cvs.......  I don't need them so I am going to post publicly:

On west 235 in Bronx ny....  Enjoy
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 06, 2013, 06:12:33 PM
it was on a personal card. Starwood. they emailed me the actual receipt that came from the store. my wife is an AU on my account she bought ~100 dollars of clothing at Ross. lost the receipt and tried returning without. they offered store credit and we disputed the charge altogether on Amex. they sent us a PDF of the actual receipt so we could return the merchandise for money back.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 06, 2013, 06:17:45 PM
I thought there was a service offered for business cards that would show each item. Amex would have to pay for this but maybe I am just confused.

ETA:
Level 3 Data Credit Card Processing (level III)

To have your transactions qualify for level 3 pricing, you must use a certified product that collects and submits the data properly to Visa/MC.
 
    Required Data to Qualify for Level 3: 1.Standard Info - credit card number & exp, billing address, zip code & invoice number.
 2.Customer Code - no longer required, but encouraged if they have it.
3.Sales Tax - an amount must be submitted separately from the total transaction amount.
 4.Freight Amount - If unavailable, enter $0.00
5.Duty Amount - If unavailable, enter $0.00
6.Line Item Details: ◦Product / Service ID (item ID)
◦Product / Service Description
◦Quantity
◦Item Amount (like $100)
◦Unit of Measure


AFAIK, it's not offered on standard CC's, business or personal.

That's why I wanted more deets as some corporate cards can provide it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 06, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
it was on a personal card. Starwood. they emailed me the actual receipt that came from the store. my wife is an AU on my account she bought ~100 dollars of clothing at Ross. lost the receipt and tried returning without. they offered store credit and we disputed the charge altogether on Amex. they sent us a PDF of the actual receipt so we could return the merchandise for money back.

Ah, that explains it.

They got the itemized receipt from the merchant itself. They didn't have that info from THEIR systems.

Not such a mystery after all.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 06, 2013, 06:32:17 PM
well that is definitely good news then.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 06, 2013, 10:17:21 PM
Is the card number the same as the account number shown under "Funding source" where it shows the information to give to your employer for direct deposit.

The reason I ask... is because I still have not received my physical card ... just wondering if I can fill up my account with VR without having the physical card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on January 06, 2013, 10:26:52 PM
When i do bill pay with online banking I can see ( and confirm) the adress I am sending the payment to. On bluebird if the payee is on their list they don't show you where exactly it's going.  Is there anyway to see the exact address? Am I being nervous for no reason?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 06, 2013, 10:36:53 PM
When i do bill pay with online banking I can see ( and confirm) the adress I am sending the payment to. On bluebird if the payee is on their list they don't show you where exactly it's going.  Is there anyway to see the exact address? Am I being nervous for no reason?

True .. I saw this with Com ED ... I entered the account number ... but I am also nervous about where it is going ... have not paid it yet .. as I have no money in the Bluebird yet.. just VR's  (per my previous post)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 06, 2013, 11:37:19 PM
True .. I saw this with Com ED ... I entered the account number ... but I am also nervous about where it is going ... have not paid it yet .. as I have no money in the Bluebird yet.. just VR's  (per my previous post)
nothing to worry about as long as it is the same company even if they have multiple payment addresses they will credit your account. this is all done electronically, i.e amex has many payment addresses but you can send a bill pay to any of there addresses. so you are safe.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on January 07, 2013, 09:48:58 AM
Actually ATM withdrawals should be $0 fee (you can link bluebird's routing and account number into paypal or your outside bank account for ACH transfer, which Bluebird will count as a 'direct deposit' and waive the $2 fee).

so all i need to do is link my bluebird to paypal and follow the confirmation deposits and its considered direct deposit which will waive my atm fees?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 07, 2013, 12:04:31 PM
Is the card number the same as the account number shown under "Funding source" where it shows the information to give to your employer for direct deposit.

The reason I ask... is because I still have not received my physical card ... just wondering if I can fill up my account with VR without having the physical card?

Definitely won't be the same (not even the same number of digits)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 07, 2013, 12:09:30 PM
Definitely won't be the same (not even the same number of digits)
SO I definitely need to wait for the physical card in order to fund via VR or is there another way ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on January 07, 2013, 03:20:59 PM
To avoid fee for BB withdrawal do you need to actualy have a monthly ACH set up or just linking the cards is enough?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on January 07, 2013, 07:26:22 PM
Did CVS ask you guys for ID? I needed to buy two 500 dollar cards for my brother and have been carded on both of my two attempts.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 07, 2013, 07:31:46 PM
Did CVS ask you guys for ID? I needed to buy two 500 dollar cards for my brother and have been carded on both of my two attempts.

they ask for ID because its a big purchase. I have never had them call the cc company or VR or anything like that. it's just a standard to ask for ID.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: whacked1 on January 07, 2013, 07:33:48 PM
Did CVS ask you guys for ID? I needed to buy two 500 dollar cards for my brother and have been carded on both of my two attempts.
which cvs id'd you? i went to two that didnt give me any problem with id
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Nitantnel on January 07, 2013, 07:36:47 PM
which cvs id'd you? i went to two that didnt give me any problem with id
One in PHL and one in NYC. How many did you buy?
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on January 07, 2013, 07:37:31 PM
they ask for ID because its a big purchase. I have never had them call the cc company or VR or anything like that. it's just a standard to ask for ID.

+1 ymmv. Same cvs some clerks ask me for ID some don't.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: whacked1 on January 07, 2013, 07:51:40 PM
One in PHL and one in NYC. How many did you buy?
two with different cards the guy was prob wondering why i was smiling so hard about buying a prepaid card! it was the first cvs i tried that took cc, so i went to get another and put it on a diff card
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 07, 2013, 08:04:18 PM
 Every cvs walgreens od staples I've got vr/gc from asked for ID
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Deal Guy on January 08, 2013, 02:27:35 AM
My college doesn't accept cc, or charges 3%. Will i be able to send them an actual check via bluebird? Is there a 'memo' section, so i can write my student id number there so the college knows to credit me?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 08, 2013, 09:49:31 AM
they ask for ID because its a big purchase. I have never had them call the cc company or VR or anything like that. it's just a standard to ask for ID.
I've only bought once, and CVS called Chase.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on January 08, 2013, 09:52:18 AM
I've only bought once, and CVS called Chase.

I/CVS had to call chase on one transaction because Chase put a fraud hold on the account. I called into the automated system and confirmed that these were my charges.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 08, 2013, 09:54:42 AM
By me it popped up on the screen at CVS that the purchase required authorization. Cashier called the manager over (at which point I thought I was dead in the water), who called Chase, gave my card info, waited on hold for 5 minutes, tried to run the transaction again and it worked, so she hung up. (This was for MVD btw, not that it matters.)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Mocha on January 08, 2013, 11:26:27 AM
What would one consider safe play with these? One per card per week? 2 per week?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 08, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
why are people sweating and worried if they ask you for ID... your not doing anything wrong . Iv'e done probably 4-5 $1,000 transactions (2 VR's, or 1 VR and 1 MVD) at CVS... One time .... they asked me for ID twice ..... once I was in a shadier neighborhood so she asked ID and called the manager over to verify... she apologized and said "sorry we just have to be careful with these for fraud" (which makes sense cause if your CC was stolen .. chance are someone would probably buy a bumnch a gift cards) .. then the manager was laughing and asked "whats so special about these cards?" they go really fast and he had to call to order more!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 08, 2013, 05:34:08 PM
and btw ... all 4-5 transactions were on different cards .... 2 Southwest, 2 freedoms(In January) - yes... Ive paid with my wife's freedom 
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Awainer1 on January 08, 2013, 07:05:00 PM
Does anyone know if you can buy visa/american express gift cards at an office supply store and then buy vanilla reloads from cvs with them? I want to maximize the miles on my ink bold/ ink plus
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 08, 2013, 07:06:14 PM
Does anyone know if you can buy visa/american express gift cards at an office supply store and then buy vanilla reloads from cvs with them? I want to maximize the miles on my ink bold/ ink plus
yep
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 08, 2013, 07:27:42 PM
Does anyone know if you can buy visa/american express gift cards at an office supply store and then buy vanilla reloads from cvs with them? I want to maximize the miles on my ink bold/ ink plus

Usually work however I've gotten turned down a number of times because there's no name on the card to match  your ID or because you can't buy a gift card with another gift card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 08, 2013, 07:29:40 PM
Usually work however I've gotten turned down a number of times because there's no name on the card to match  your ID or because you can't buy a gift card with another gift card.
Thats what a GC is.

But technically there is nothing wrong with it
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Thats what a GC is.

But technically there is nothing wrong with it

100%
But it's coming from the type of guy who told me the daily limit is $500 but then let me buy a second VR because on the first one I only loaded $496.
I kid you not!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 08, 2013, 10:01:05 PM
Usually work however I've gotten turned down a number of times because there's no name on the card to match  your ID or because you can't buy a gift card with another gift card.
+1 I had the same trouble a few times. they call over a manager....never got a manager approval. only success I had with buying vr with gift card was when you find an 18 yr. old clueless cashier they are the best, you show id with any of your real c.c and then when you swipe use the gift card.(some report if you sign the gift card it can help)YMMV
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ADanFan on January 08, 2013, 10:15:09 PM
and btw ... all 4-5 transactions were on different cards .... 2 Southwest, 2 freedoms(In January) - yes... Ive paid with my wife's freedom

+1
You bought 2 VRs on both your's and your wife's Chase Freedom with the same cashier!?  8)
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 08, 2013, 10:18:20 PM
+1
You bought 2 VRs on both your's and your wife's Chase Freedom with the same cashier!?  8)
just did it as well...very easy. You first show them your cc and ID for the 1st vr then you give them your wife's cc for the 2nd ..works like a dandy ::)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Reb Moshe on January 09, 2013, 12:02:01 AM
I just picked up 2 @ CVS, i walk up to counter, place cards on the counter, cashier looks me in the eye and says, "500 each?"
My response is, "How did YOU know?"
Her answer, "All YOU guys take the cards with $500, so it was just an assumption."
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 09, 2013, 12:04:52 AM
I just picked up 2 @ CVS, i walk up to counter, place cards on the counter, cashier looks me in the eye and says, "500 each?"
My response is, "How did YOU know?"
Her answer, "All YOU guys take the cards with $500, so it was just an assumption."
where was this
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Reb Moshe on January 09, 2013, 12:07:45 AM
where was this
store no. 8939
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 09, 2013, 01:43:39 AM
100%
But it's coming from the type of guy who told me the daily limit is $500 but then let me buy a second VR because on the first one I only loaded $496.
I kid you not!

I have had different experiences in each cvs. one cvs told me the limit was 1000 per day per cvs including the fees. he put 500 on one card and 490 on the other (I even asked for 493.10 but was told no). another cvs let me buy as many as I liked on one or several cards did not make a difference to him. basically ymmv depending on store and cashier.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Deal Guy on January 09, 2013, 02:01:53 AM
My college doesn't accept cc, or charges 3%. Will i be able to send them an actual check via bluebird? Is there a 'memo' section, so i can write my student id number there so the college knows to credit me?
Anyone?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 09, 2013, 05:41:49 AM
Anyone?
yes and yes
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: DJE on January 09, 2013, 10:23:53 AM
I am totally new to all this and have been reading thousands of posts to learn as much as I can. If someone can help me and lead me in the right direction I'd really really appreciate it. I apologize if I'm asking a question that has come up a million times. I have just been confused where to find the right answers to my questions.
Firstly, with this BlueBird thing, can I pay rent for an apartment I'm renting? I usually pay with a check but can I use BlueBird instead? How does BlueBird work? Is it like a Bank Account that I can set up automatic withdrawel to pay my rent just like I could do with my current bank account?
Secondly, I walked into my local Office Depot & saw they sold Visa giftcards by Vanilla. You can load between $20-$500 with a $4.95 fee. I keep readin about a $3.95 fee. Has it gone up? Also, is the point so someone can receive 5x the amount of points with a certain credit card? & to reach a certain spending limit?
Also, is this the Vanilla card everyone is talking abour or there is a different one with Vanilla reload? I'm a little confused.

Sorry again for posting a lot of questions already asked. Please just point me in the right direction if you can.
Thank you so much to hoever can help me. You're doing a huge Chessed.
And as always, thank you Dan for all that you do.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 09, 2013, 11:11:25 AM
I am totally new to all this and have been reading thousands of posts to learn as much as I can. If someone can help me and lead me in the right direction I'd really really appreciate it. I apologize if I'm asking a question that has come up a million times. I have just been confused where to find the right answers to my questions.
Firstly, with this BlueBird thing, can I pay rent for an apartment I'm renting? I usually pay with a check but can I use BlueBird instead? How does BlueBird work? Is it like a Bank Account that I can set up automatic withdrawel to pay my rent just like I could do with my current bank account?
Secondly, I walked into my local Office Depot & saw they sold Visa giftcards by Vanilla. You can load between $20-$500 with a $4.95 fee. I keep readin about a $3.95 fee. Has it gone up? Also, is the point so someone can receive 5x the amount of points with a certain credit card? & to reach a certain spending limit?
Also, is this the Vanilla card everyone is talking abour or there is a different one with Vanilla reload? I'm a little confused.

Sorry again for posting a lot of questions already asked. Please just point me in the right direction if you can.
Thank you so much to hoever can help me. You're doing a huge Chessed.
And as always, thank you Dan for all that you do.

-I have not got my physical blue bird card so I have not done it yet .. so someone can correct me if I'm wrong... but yes bluebird works like a a bank account/debit card... so you can pay with the card or set up payments with your online account... a little less sophisticated then a bank account as with a bank account (like chase) you can set up whatever payee you want - with blue bird they have a list of common payees (come ed.... ), so when you want to add a unique one (like the management company that collects your rent) , you can add the payee info .. and they will print and mail a check (so probably safer to do this earlier then bills paid directly from a real bank account) . 
-the visa gift cards you see with a 4.95 fee is not what you want ... in order to fund your bluebird account with money aside from direct deposit, and cash is buying Vanilla Reloads (VR) - the 3.95 fee (can be bought with a cc) ...  and yes the point is you can buy VR's with a cc at certain places and get 5x the points - ink cards at office supply stores and freedom at cvs/walgreens for the 1st quarter  of the year (up to $1500)..
-in terms of the vanilla gift cards - it could be that people have not found VR's at the office stores and bought gift cards and then used the gift cards at cvs to buy the VR's - I am not sure about this one as I havent done it since i havent got my ink card in the mail yet.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Devorah on January 09, 2013, 11:15:10 AM
Office Depot no longer sells VR.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 09, 2013, 11:21:48 AM
I have been looking around for places that sell VR. Every CVS and Walgreens I walk into has tons of them. The problem is that I am looking for VRs at grocery and gas stations. Anyone have any luck at 7-11? I have been looking for them all over but no luck. Also has anyone found them at any chains of grocery stores? Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: noturbizniss on January 09, 2013, 11:23:45 AM
Anyone know if there is danger in putting $1,000 into bluebird every day from VR and using it to just pay the CC? Would it be flagged by BB or by CC and shut down?  What about buying visa/amex/MC gift cards at office stores and using them at CVS/7-11, etc for VR cards? 
What's the general consensus on doing this to the max while not being flagged for abuse or the like?
TIA
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: gloreglabert on January 09, 2013, 11:54:18 AM
Anyone know if there is danger in putting $1,000 into bluebird every day from VR and using it to just pay the CC? Would it be flagged by BB or by CC and shut down?  What about buying visa/amex/MC gift cards at office stores and using them at CVS/7-11, etc for VR cards? 
What's the general consensus on doing this to the max while not being flagged for abuse or the like?
TIA

If you're using the same card for all the VR purchases, then I think you're more likely looking at trouble from the card issuer than BB.  BB itself is somewhat limited by the 5k monthly load limit.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 12:30:45 PM
I have a noob question;

I called a local CVS asking if they have Vanilla cards before I shlep down there. She said yes, but nothing re-loadable. What does that mean?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on January 09, 2013, 12:35:01 PM
I have a noob question;

I called a local CVS asking if they have Vanilla cards before I shlep down there. She said yes, but nothing re-loadable. What does that mean?

Why don't you call back & ask if they have specifically Vanilla RELOAD Card??

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on January 09, 2013, 12:35:55 PM
Why don't you call back & ask if they have specifically Vanilla RELOAD Card??
why dont u just go and see and not be so lazy
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on January 09, 2013, 12:38:28 PM
why dont u just go and see and not be so lazy

It's not about lazy its all about money right??!! So therefore gas & time is also money. So if he goes for no reason then its a waste of money which he trying to gain. So it's kind of counter-productive!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 12:41:47 PM
Why don't you call back & ask if they have specifically Vanilla RELOAD Card??

Are there other Vanilla branded cards besides for the reloads? What are the benefits of the reloads?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 12:42:21 PM
why dont u just go and see and not be so lazy

It's not about lazy its all about money right??!! So therefore gas & time is also money. So if he goes for no reason then its a waste of money which he trying to gain. So it's kind of counter-productive!

+1
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Kvending on January 09, 2013, 12:54:17 PM
Are there other Vanilla branded cards besides for the reloads? What are the benefits of the reloads?

Yes there are other Vanilla branded cards. The reloads to my knowledge are the only Vanilla card that you can use to load money to your bluebird account besides the regular options of bank account & your debit card for a $2.00 fee.


Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: noturbizniss on January 09, 2013, 12:57:55 PM
If you're using the same card for all the VR purchases, then I think you're more likely looking at trouble from the card issuer than BB.  BB itself is somewhat limited by the 5k monthly load limit.

If I use the same card for VR purchases but also spend on some other e/d purchases would that make it seem reasonable?
I thought the monthly 5K limit is only at walmart, but the VR is essentially 1K per day = ~30K a month?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 09, 2013, 01:11:23 PM
It's not about lazy its all about money right??!! So therefore gas & time is also money. So if he goes for no reason then its a waste of money which he trying to gain. So it's kind of counter-productive!

That also depends on getting reliable information over the phone from someone who probably can't tell the difference between Vanilla products or does not care enough to look hard for you.  The cost of gas and time to be 100% sure might be far less than the cost of missed opportunity due to getting unreliable information over the phone...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: DJE on January 09, 2013, 01:14:07 PM
-I have not got my physical blue bird card so I have not done it yet .. so someone can correct me if I'm wrong... but yes bluebird works like a a bank account/debit card... so you can pay with the card or set up payments with your online account... a little less sophisticated then a bank account as with a bank account (like chase) you can set up whatever payee you want - with blue bird they have a list of common payees (come ed.... ), so when you want to add a unique one (like the management company that collects your rent) , you can add the payee info .. and they will print and mail a check (so probably safer to do this earlier then bills paid directly from a real bank account) . 
-the visa gift cards you see with a 4.95 fee is not what you want ... in order to fund your bluebird account with money aside from direct deposit, and cash is buying Vanilla Reloads (VR) - the 3.95 fee (can be bought with a cc) ...  and yes the point is you can buy VR's with a cc at certain places and get 5x the points - ink cards at office supply stores and freedom at cvs/walgreens for the 1st quarter  of the year (up to $1500)..
-in terms of the vanilla gift cards - it could be that people have not found VR's at the office stores and bought gift cards and then used the gift cards at cvs to buy the VR's - I am not sure about this one as I havent done it since i havent got my ink card in the mail yet.  :)

Thank you aviz for the help. I am still a little bit confused. What is the difference between the Visa Gift Cards I am seeing with the card having the ice cream cone and saying vanilla on it and a Vanilla Reload card? Thank you again for your help!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: glasses dude on January 09, 2013, 01:29:36 PM
That also depends on getting reliable information over the phone from someone who probably can't tell the difference between Vanilla products or does not care enough to look hard for you.  The cost of gas and time to be 100% sure might be far less than the cost of missed opportunity due to getting unreliable information over the phone...
....But def call beforehand to make sure you could pay with cc, otherwise def a waste of time.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 09, 2013, 01:33:12 PM
Calling the store beforehand and asking if you could pay with cc is just alerting the store that maybe cc's aren't accepted. 
Please don't call the store and alert to any possibilities.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 01:33:48 PM
I ran to CVS and bought a MVD (I think) for $503.95 on my Ink Plus.  I also took a prepaid reload (see pic). Which is better? Can they both be sent to bluebird, or cashed out at an ATM?

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2ih6muw.jpg)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: aviz on January 09, 2013, 01:35:04 PM
Thank you aviz for the help. I am still a little bit confused. What is the difference between the Visa Gift Cards I am seeing with the card having the ice cream cone and saying vanilla on it and a Vanilla Reload card? Thank you again for your help!

I ran to CVS and bought a MVD (I think) for $503.95 on my Ink Plus.  I also took a prepaid reload (see pic). Which is better? Can they both be sent to bluebird, or cashed out at an ATM?

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2ih6muw.jpg)

See this Post .....

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/26616
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: glasses dude on January 09, 2013, 01:38:31 PM
Calling the store beforehand and asking if you could pay with cc is just alerting the store that maybe cc's aren't accepted. 
Please don't call the store and alert to any possibilities.
The store doesnt care, so far whenever the store hasnt let it was wired into the system. And you could ask if you could buy prepaid cards with cc, you dont have to specify vr.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 01:38:40 PM
See this Post .....

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/26616

Thanks, I already read that post (notice the similar picture :P)

What does this mean? Why is VR easier?

Quote
Vanilla Reload is much easier than MVD, though VR cards can be harder to find. They can be bought with a credit card, and then you can go online to transfer the funds to a free Bluebird card, and then from the Bluebird card you can pay off your credit card bills, your rent or mortgage, or any other bill.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 09, 2013, 01:41:26 PM
store no. 8939

No such store according to http://www.cvs.com/stores/store-locator-landing.jsp?map=noresults&_requestid=185817
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 01:45:55 PM
Thanks, I already read that post (notice the similar picture :P)

What does this mean? Why is VR easier?
I think I got it, please confirm if I am correct.

MVD does not allow you to send to Bluebird. The only option is to withdraw the funds via an ATM or AP.

VR allows you to load directly to Bluebird, and from three you can pay your credit card bill, request a check, etc.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 09, 2013, 01:48:17 PM
No such store according to http://www.cvs.com/stores/store-locator-landing.jsp?map=noresults&_requestid=185817
Just Google it, it comes up.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 09, 2013, 01:51:29 PM
I thought the monthly 5K limit is only at walmart, but the VR is essentially 1K per day = ~30K a month?

Not only is the VR limit also 5k every 28 days but it shares that 5k with reloading at Wal-Mart with a debit card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: nutcase on January 09, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
I think I got it, please confirm if I am correct.

MVD does not allow you to send to Bluebird. The only option is to withdraw the funds via an ATM or AP.

VR allows you to load directly to Bluebird, and from three you can pay your credit card bill, request a check, etc.
You can load bb with mvd see my other posts with my method.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 09, 2013, 01:58:07 PM
The store doesnt care, so far whenever the store hasnt let it was wired into the system. And you could ask if you could buy prepaid cards with cc, you dont have to specify vr.
First of all I don't think you're right. Go back to the first few pages of this thread and you'll see what I'm talking about.

2nd of all, how do you think it got "wired into the system"?! The store realized what was going on and therefore programme their registers to not allow it.

3rd of all, once they are alerted to what's going on - even if they don't block cc's, they probably will impose limits.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: DJE on January 09, 2013, 02:10:06 PM
See this Post .....

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/26616

Thank you once again Aviz! I think I understand it now. Thanks a million!
And of course THANK YOU DAN!!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: Saver2000 on January 09, 2013, 02:14:27 PM
Thank you once again Aviz! I think I understand it now. Thanks a million!
And of course THANK YOU DAN!!!!
There is also a wiki on this thread that you can check for better understanding.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 02:17:11 PM
You can load bb with mvd see my other posts with my method.

Are you referring  to this?

you can just use my method. Go to walmart in howell.go to any checkout lane tell them you want to load your bluebird(if you have one that was mailed to you not the temp. Card) tell them to put $499.50 then swipe mvd enter pin(you need to create one online when activating mvd)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 09, 2013, 02:17:32 PM
First of all I don't think you're right. Go back to the first few pages of this thread and you'll see what I'm talking about.

2nd of all, how do you think it got "wired into the system"?! The store realized what was going on and therefore programme their registers to not allow it.

3rd of all, once they are alerted to what's going on - even if they don't block cc's, they probably will impose limits.

+1 and I've had multiple experiences where I was denied even though it was not coded into the system.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: DJE on January 09, 2013, 02:33:16 PM
There is also a wiki on this thread that you can check for better understanding.

Thank you Saver2000!
Btw, just wondering, how does one become a DansDealsForum Elite member? Or some type of status? And what is it for?
Thank you DAN for everything!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: yitzf on January 09, 2013, 02:42:48 PM
Thank you Saver2000!
Btw, just wondering, how does one become a DansDealsForum Elite member? Or some type of status? And what is it for?
Thank you DAN for everything!

Maybe he'll sell it to you
can i write over the Lifetime Platinum Elite to my children in my will. or mayb i can sell my elite status (when i get it) to some1 else


Just be careful
...the rumor has it that when they want to ban someone with a lifetime elite membership, they will terminate his life...
Mancunian, I guess we can wish each other mazel tov, we've been promoted to Gold Elite Status here on the forum.

Apparently they will ban us here, if we buy regular (non award tix), especially full-fare ones, are a big no no.

So be careful.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: aviz on January 09, 2013, 03:03:21 PM
I think I got it, please confirm if I am correct.

MVD does not allow you to send to Bluebird. The only option is to withdraw the funds via an ATM or AP.

VR allows you to load directly to Bluebird, and from three you can pay your credit card bill, request a check, etc.

Yea... Originally when he said VR is easier .. it confused me .... I guess yes it takes out the step of going into a bank, getting a cash advance, and depositing the money back into your account to pay your bill ....
I have not read nutcase's post on loading MVD yet .... but why not just do both MVD and Blue bird ... I have done the cash advance on the MVD 4-5 times already... seems like theres a $0.50 fee when doing this with the same card over...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: glasses dude on January 09, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
+1 and I've had multiple experiences where I was denied even though it was not coded into the system.
could be your right but i dont understand why the store would care if you used a cc, seems like the cc company or vanilla should be the ones to care not the cashier answering the phones. But i guess your right better safe then sorry. i take it back
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: myb821 on January 09, 2013, 04:00:07 PM
could be your right but i dont understand why the store would care if you used a cc, seems like the cc company or vanilla should be the ones to care not the cashier answering the phones. But i guess your right better safe then sorry. i take it back
the store only get the money fromt he activation fee but they pay cc processing on the whole purchase 2% of 500 is alot more than the fee they r making
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: noturbizniss on January 09, 2013, 07:54:04 PM
So i purchased a VR card at cvs with CC and a message came up saying it could not be purchased with a cvs gift card or money card.  Does that mean I cannot use a visa/amex/mc gfift card purchased in office store with ink card? Or is the "money card" something else?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MosheP on January 09, 2013, 07:58:27 PM
I ran to CVS and bought a MVD (I think) for $503.95 on my Ink Plus.  I also took a prepaid reload (see pic). Which is better? Can they both be sent to bluebird, or cashed out at an ATM?

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2ih6muw.jpg)

I went back to my CVS  and  got 2 VR for $500 each. She took my credit card w/o batting an eyelash, didn't ask for a license or say anything about $1000 max ( the total was $,007.90).

I went to a Chase Bank and they too had no problems whatsoever cashing out my MVD. The teller was even familiar with MVD and VR.

Did I get lucky, or is this how it always goes?

Also why do they say  not to do this with AMEX?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: sky121 on January 09, 2013, 07:59:11 PM
I went back to my CVS  and  got 2 VR for $500 each. She took my credit card w/o batting an eyelash, didn't ask for a license or say anything about $1000 max ( the total was $,007.90).

Did I get lucky, or is this how it always goes?

Also why do they say  not to do this with AMEX?

I haven't gotten carded yet.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: nutcase on January 09, 2013, 08:04:52 PM
Are you referring  to this?
yes sir we should name it the nutcase mehalach! (like the pggm)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2013, 08:42:19 AM
I went back to my CVS  and  got 2 VR for $500 each. She took my credit card w/o batting an eyelash, didn't ask for a license or say anything about $1000 max ( the total was $,007.90).

I went to a Chase Bank and they too had no problems whatsoever cashing out my MVD. The teller was even familiar with MVD and VR.

Did I get lucky, or is this how it always goes?

Also why do they say  not to do this with AMEX?

I don't know if you got lucky, maybe I'm just getting unlucky because everyone seems to be getting lucky. I have never bought a VR. I have only even seen them twice, once at CVS and once at Walgreens, and both occassions I tried Amex GC and a CC with no luck.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: DJE on January 10, 2013, 09:33:37 AM
Anyone else having a hard time signing up for Bluebird? I am filling out the application online to get my card and every time I try putting in my date of Birth it doesn't let me do it properly, it erases what I wrote and keeps giving me a message I need to be at least 18 years of age to open an account. Please help me here if anyone has had the same issue.
Thanks a million!
And of course THANK YOU DAN!!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit ca
Post by: DJE on January 10, 2013, 09:36:59 AM
Got it to work somehow. Phew
THANK YOU DAN!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mmermss on January 10, 2013, 09:57:32 AM
a little off topic but,

i just ate a delicious dinner, thanks dan!!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 10, 2013, 10:33:00 AM


+1
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MosheP on January 10, 2013, 01:30:49 PM
Are the VR re-loadable? If I go to a CVS and they are out of VR, can I give the cashier one I already used and ask fir it to be loaded with $500?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 10, 2013, 01:31:30 PM
Are the VR re-loadable? If I go to a CVS and they are out of VR, can I give the cashier one I already used and ask fir it to be loaded with $500?
No
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 10, 2013, 01:40:44 PM
b"h bsha' tova. I signed up on dec 18, 2012 and just received my card FINALLY (had to order another bc the first supposedly got lost). already loaded 1k today :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2013, 01:56:03 PM
No

Really? I don't know how this slipped passed me and I read almost all of these threads daily. Thanks!!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on January 10, 2013, 03:03:22 PM
Does anyone know whether one can buy  VR using Amex Gift cards?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2013, 03:07:36 PM
Does anyone know whether one can buy  VR using Amex Gift cards?

Tried and failed at CVS and Walgreens. But then again I couldn't use CC there either. And people have reportedly used CC.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on January 10, 2013, 03:09:18 PM
Tried and failed at CVS and Walgreens. But then again I couldn't use CC there either. And people have reportedly used CC.
You can move to Boston. All CVS stores accept CC for VR.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2013, 03:44:34 PM
You can move to Boston. All CVS accepts CC for VR.  :)

That's wicked awesome. If they accept Credit Cahds they will probably accept gift cahds.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 10, 2013, 03:49:26 PM
I bought MVD last week at a CVS on a new IB. Today I bought VR at a different CVS using a new IP. Both times I was the in the store for 20 minutes, as the cashier's system forced them to call Chase to authorize the transaction. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way I can prevent this from happening?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 10, 2013, 03:52:55 PM
Maybe we should take a poll ...
Does your Local CVS/Walgrees carry VR's? , Can you pay by CC, with ease, 50/50 .... , Can you buy a VR with a GC ?
 ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 10, 2013, 03:53:47 PM
I bought MVD last week at a CVS on a new IB. Today I bought VR at a different CVS using a new IP. Both times I was the in the store for 20 minutes, as the cashier's system forced them to call Chase to authorize the transaction. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way I can prevent this from happening?

Do you look like a homeless man ?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 10, 2013, 03:56:28 PM
I bought MVD last week at a CVS on a new IB. Today I bought VR at a different CVS using a new IP. Both times I was the in the store for 20 minutes, as the cashier's system forced them to call Chase to authorize the transaction. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way I can prevent this from happening?
it's not you it's the store.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on January 10, 2013, 03:57:33 PM
Do you look like a homeless man ?
Mean. Very Mean. ;D
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 10, 2013, 03:58:44 PM
it's not you it's the store.
2 different stores though.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: karen on January 10, 2013, 04:11:16 PM
Mean. Very Mean. ;D
LOL
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
That's wicked awesome. If they accept Credit Cahds they will probably accept gift cahds.
As does CVS pretty much everywhere but in many tri-state stores.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 10, 2013, 04:50:29 PM
As does CVS pretty much everywhere but in many tri-state stores.

I am going to my in-laws in Chicago VR hunting next weekend.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: aviz on January 10, 2013, 05:04:46 PM
I am going to my in-laws in Chicago VR hunting next weekend.

Plenty of VR's in Chicago - but not at walgreens.. so don't waste your time there.   ::)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Mocha on January 10, 2013, 05:44:36 PM
(On the t&c on the pp reload card is says nothing about cash/cc)
Can they do more than shut me down? Is there a risk to the actual funds?
Yes.
Is this first hand experience? I just tried a $500 card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 10, 2013, 05:49:01 PM
Have no luck finding in Brooklyn.  Does anyone know where I can get?
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 10, 2013, 06:30:29 PM
I was told that purchasing vrs with Amex  is unwise. can anyone shed light if I am not using it to pay Amex bills why it would be a problem?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 10, 2013, 06:38:44 PM
I was told that purchasing vrs with Amex  is unwise. can anyone shed light if I am not using it to pay Amex bills why it would be a problem?

It's just as unwise as buying 500 worth of toiletries at your local pharmacy. Amex has no idea what your buying but if you're changing your spending pattern they might take a look at your account and if they see multiple transactions for 503.95 etc they might want to know what's going on.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: churnbabychurn on January 10, 2013, 06:43:32 PM
It's just as unwise as buying 500 worth of toiletries at your local pharmacy. Amex has no idea what your buying but if you're changing your spending pattern they might take a look at your account and if they see multiple transactions for 503.95 etc they might want to know what's going on.
Try $486.32 ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 11, 2013, 01:47:55 AM
It's just as unwise as buying 500 worth of toiletries at your local pharmacy. Amex has no idea what your buying but if you're changing your spending pattern they might take a look at your account and if they see multiple transactions for 503.95 etc they might want to know what's going on.

I agree.

Try $486.32 ?

Good idea.

Question about VR network. Has anyone found a Vanilla Reload "participating retail location?" And if so has anyone tried to load their BB via this location with a cc? Lastly, where do I find one of these locations?

Also has anyone done any research on the swipe reload cards?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 11, 2013, 07:38:50 AM
I agree.

Good idea.

Question about VR network. Has anyone found a Vanilla Reload "participating retail location?" And if so has anyone tried to load their BB via this location with a cc? Lastly, where do I find one of these locations?

Also has anyone done any research on the swipe reload cards?
did you read my instructions???????? it is in the wiki
1. go to https://bluebird.com/ sign up for account(If you have a serve account you need to cancel that first) wait 7- 10 business days to actually receive the card
2. go purchase a vanilla reload pack @ any location that sells them(https://www.vanillareload.com/ click locations) say you want to load $500(max allowed) swipe c.c for $503.95 (this is the hard part, as many stores/clerks do not accept cc for vanilla reloads, ymmv even within the same store)
3.wait 15 min after purchase(some locations) go to https://www.vanillareload.com put in bluebird account number and pin from your reload pack and the $500 is now in your bluebird account
4.you have $500 in your bluebird account you can send straight to your c.c or send a check to anyone in the u.s.a(5 business days)FOR FREE

huh? you want to load a bb @ a vanilla store??
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 11, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
@nutcase

Your link for finding a location does not seem to work, as the location tab in the link doesn't seem to respond.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 11, 2013, 10:29:37 AM
huh? you want to load a bb @ a vanilla store??

Yes, as discussed earlier in this thread there are some stores in which you officially can load your card directly in the store.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 11, 2013, 10:31:12 AM
Question about VR network. Has anyone found a Vanilla Reload "participating retail location?" And if so has anyone tried to load their BB via this location with a cc? Lastly, where do I find one of these locations?

Also has anyone done any research on the swipe reload cards?

huh? you want to load a bb @ a vanilla store??

According to the VR site it appears you can reload your prepaid card (ie Bluebird) without first buying VR if you go to one of those "participating retail locations". Has anyone had success doing that?

Quote
How to Reload Your Card
There are 2 simple ways to reload your card:

...

1Bring your prepaid card to one of the Vanilla Reload participating retail locations.
2Present your card to the retail clerk and let them know you want to add funds to (reload) your card (* typically a $3.95 fee applies)
3The clerk will take your cash, ring up the sale, and swipe your prepaid card
4Your card is loaded instantly and ready for use!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Reb Moshe on January 11, 2013, 10:38:40 AM
According to the VR site it appears you can reload your prepaid card (ie Bluebird) without first buying VR if you go to one of those "participating retail locations". Has anyone had success doing that?

It says cash

How to Reload Your Card
There are 2 simple ways to reload your card:

...

1Bring your prepaid card to one of the Vanilla Reload participating retail locations.
2Present your card to the retail clerk and let them know you want to add funds to (reload) your card (* typically a $3.95 fee applies)
3The clerk will take your cash, ring up the sale, and swipe your prepaid card
4Your card is loaded instantly and ready for use!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 11, 2013, 10:50:44 AM
It says cash

How to Reload Your Card
There are 2 simple ways to reload your card:

...

1Bring your prepaid card to one of the Vanilla Reload participating retail locations.
2Present your card to the retail clerk and let them know you want to add funds to (reload) your card (* typically a $3.95 fee applies)
3The clerk will take your cash, ring up the sale, and swipe your prepaid card
4Your card is loaded instantly and ready for use!

Yep, but it also says you need cash to buy the VR...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yyk on January 11, 2013, 11:02:47 AM
Someone asked about this earlier but I did not see an answer. When I first started with bluebird and not knowing much about it I accidentally purchased the wrong vanilla card. I purchased the OneVanilla prepaid Visa card. Does anyone know what I can do with this card to cash it out?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: shaytmg on January 11, 2013, 11:21:40 AM
Someone asked about this earlier but I did not see an answer. When I first started with bluebird and not knowing much about it I accidentally purchased the wrong vanilla card. I purchased the OneVanilla prepaid Visa card. Does anyone know what I can do with this card to cash it out?

YYK, ha, I did the same thing last night. I accidentally purchased a $500 MyVanilla Personal Reloadable Prepaid Debit Card.  Didn't realize it was the wrong one. I just took it back to CVS and purchased the correct Vanilla Reload Card (for $495 to take care of the fee) with the debit card. I was out the $3.95, oh well.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 11, 2013, 11:24:52 AM
Someone asked about this earlier but I did not see an answer. When I first started with bluebird and not knowing much about it I accidentally purchased the wrong vanilla card. I purchased the OneVanilla prepaid Visa card. Does anyone know what I can do with this card to cash it out?

I would just spend it like you would've your credit card to avoid paying more fees. you could also try AP but I don't know too much about that and the fees involved.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2013, 11:27:29 AM
Someone asked about this earlier but I did not see an answer. When I first started with bluebird and not knowing much about it I accidentally purchased the wrong vanilla card. I purchased the OneVanilla prepaid Visa card. Does anyone know what I can do with this card to cash it out?
Amazon payments with fake Exp trick
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on January 11, 2013, 12:17:59 PM
YYK, ha, I did the same thing last night. I accidentally purchased a $500 MyVanilla Personal Reloadable Prepaid Debit Card.  Didn't realize it was the wrong one. I just took it back to CVS and purchased the correct Vanilla Reload Card (for $495 to take care of the fee) with the debit card. I was out the $3.95, oh well.

You could have just cashed out the MVD at a bank with a CA.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 11, 2013, 01:16:02 PM
Seems like from the wiki that I need to wait for the actual bluebird card to arrive before I can load it online from my VR. Is that true or can I load it as soon as I make the BB account?

Would the problem be not knowing the account number without the card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on January 11, 2013, 01:23:35 PM
Seems like from the wiki that I need to wait for the actual bluebird card to arrive before I can load it online from my VR. Is that true or can I load it as soon as I make the BB account?

Would the problem be not knowing the account number without the card?

You need to activate the card before loading it. You need the security code (you can actually get the account # by calling BB, but not the SID)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 11, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
You need to activate the card before loading it. You need the security code (you can actually get the account # by calling BB, but not the SID)
Gotcha.

When I get to the Vanilla Reload Network link, and it says card number on top, that is where I put in my BB account number? With the VR pin on bottom?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mod on January 11, 2013, 01:42:58 PM
Gotcha.

When I get to the Vanilla Reload Network link, and it says card number on top, that is where I put in my BB account number? With the VR pin on bottom?

Exactly
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yyk on January 11, 2013, 03:05:14 PM
Amazon payments with fake Exp trick

Sorry Dan, but I don't understand completely how that helps me? If your intent was for me to just get rid of the card then fine. But what about the fact that I then won't be able to use AP like I normally would each month with my different cards to rack up points, bec of the $1,000 limit? Is there any way to get this cashed out at a bank?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ganizzy on January 11, 2013, 03:18:23 PM
are there any mvd cards at any office stores?

been to 2 office depots, a few staples and an office max in california and none of them have.

when people say they buy a card at an office store and then buy vr or mvd at other stores, r u paying the fee's twice?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 11, 2013, 03:22:11 PM
are there any mvd cards at any office stores?

been to 2 office depots, a few staples and an office max in california and none of them have.

when people say they buy a card at an office store and then buy vr or mvd at other stores, r u paying the fee's twice?
Office depot no longer has any vanilla. So yes they are paying fees twice
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yyk on January 11, 2013, 03:32:49 PM
are there any mvd cards at any office stores?

been to 2 office depots, a few staples and an office max in california and none of them have.

when people say they buy a card at an office store and then buy vr or mvd at other stores, r u paying the fee's twice?

yes they are paying fees twice but the extra fee is worth it since they are getting 5 points per dollar when purchasing at an office store with their INK cards.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: michael on January 11, 2013, 03:59:33 PM
I'm trying to pay my citi bill, and it just allows me to enter my citi acct number, and then wants me to press submit. Does this mean that the  Citi address is automatically plugged in?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ganizzy on January 11, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
yes they are paying fees twice but the extra fee is worth it since they are getting 5 points per dollar when purchasing at an office store with their INK cards.

but what card do u buy. their amex or visa gift cards only went up to $200. the rest of the cards were for specific stores. they didnt have any where u can choose ur own price
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2013, 04:03:24 PM
In case anyone is curious, you can't use any ExtraBucks for VRs.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 11, 2013, 04:29:26 PM
In case anyone is curious, you can't use any ExtraBucks for VRs.
and neither do you earn any...
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 11, 2013, 04:52:48 PM
In case anyone is curious, you can't use any ExtraBucks for VRs.

and neither do you earn any...

and it doesn't work for the fees either. but what you can do if you want to extend the life of your bucks is have them turn it into a cvs gift card.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ham on January 12, 2013, 10:50:40 AM
Has anyone confirmed that bluebird or vanilla reload does not issue 1099's? I am concerned that since they are kind of a payment processor, they may issue a 1099-k if you break the 20k/200 transaction rule. I believe the entity has to have a contractual obligation or something with the IRS to have to do it.


Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 12, 2013, 12:50:43 PM
I'm trying to pay my citi bill, and it just allows me to enter my citi acct number, and then wants me to press submit. Does this mean that the  Citi address is automatically plugged in?
When you search "citi bank" they give you a choice of which citi department you want. Press credit cards and that's the department you can send your payments to (with the correct address).

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 12, 2013, 08:40:14 PM
Can I pay the same Amex account from 2 different ppl's BB? Wanna beat the 5k limit so have friend that would allow me to use his BB account and was wondering if its an easy workaround to the 5k limit.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 12, 2013, 10:30:48 PM
but what card do u buy. their amex or visa gift cards only went up to $200. the rest of the cards were for specific stores. they didnt have any where u can choose ur own price
gotta keep looking it can be the particular store you checked doesn't have it
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 12, 2013, 10:32:04 PM
Can I pay the same Amex account from 2 different ppl's BB? Wanna beat the 5k limit so have friend that would allow me to use his BB account and was wondering if its an easy workaround to the 5k limit.
yes. yes will work 100%
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: est on January 12, 2013, 11:08:34 PM
No need for rude answers -but I've got to spend 15 k in 3 months. after reading to death im still unsure. can anyone tell me on 2 ink cards and one united what's my best card and store type purchasing option and if they know of a place in Lakewood to purchase. Tx
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 12, 2013, 11:13:24 PM
No need for rude answers -but I've got to spend 15 k in 3 months. after reading to death im still unsure. can anyone tell me on 2 ink cards and one united what's my best card and store type purchasing option and if they know of a place in Lakewood to purchase. Tx
1. how crazy do you want to make yourself to get extra points??
easy way swipe on square(might get shut) or paypal now you pay a fee but you dont gotta run around. square 2.75% paypal now 2.7%
other  ways require some effort are you interested?
united you need 5k?? isn't it 1k?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 12, 2013, 11:21:29 PM
yes. yes will work 100%
Amazing thank u.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 13, 2013, 12:37:35 AM
Has anyone confirmed that bluebird or vanilla reload does not issue 1099's? I am concerned that since they are kind of a payment processor, they may issue a 1099-k if you break the 20k/200 transaction rule. I believe the entity has to have a contractual obligation or something with the IRS to have to do it.

any information about this?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on January 13, 2013, 03:13:09 AM
wow just caught up on the last 30 pages haven't been here for awhile has anyone done and could they elaborate please on linking my bank account with blue bird so I don't have to travel by foot a few miles to use the money pass atm . tx in advance
(you can link bluebird's routing and account number into paypal or your outside bank account
for ACH transfer, which Bluebird will count as a 'direct deposit' and waive the $2 fee).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 07:41:32 AM
Can I pay the same Amex account from 2 different ppl's BB? Wanna beat the 5k limit so have friend that would allow me to use his BB account and was wondering if its an easy workaround to the 5k limit.
yes. yes will work 100%
Amazing thank u.
I would be careful paying an account not in your name. Other prepaid cards have been shut down for this. BB is still in the early stages to know what will happen for sure.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 08:33:42 AM
I would be careful paying an account not in your name. Other prepaid cards have been shut down for this. BB is still in the early stages to know what will happen for sure.
just to clarify he wants to make a bill pay to his credit card. how would bluebird know the account holders name? which other prepaid debit allow billpay?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: est on January 13, 2013, 09:10:52 AM
1. how crazy do you want to make yourself to get extra points??
easy way swipe on square(might get shut) or paypal now you pay a fee but you dont gotta run around. square 2.75% paypal now 2.7%
other  ways require some effort are you interested?
united you need 5k?? isn't it 1k?
Yes I want to go to stores buy the cards... Just in lkwd I'm not sure what my best options r. Can I still get the vr card here? Where? Which stores will get best points value? And yes ur right I only need 11 k
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 13, 2013, 09:41:09 AM
I would be careful paying an account not in your name. Other prepaid cards have been shut down for this. BB is still in the early stages to know what will happen for sure.
How would they know my name? If they track the account number I wonder if it would help to give BB the account number of the AU so that its not the same, at least with Amex.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 10:10:57 AM
No need for rude answers -but I've got to spend 15 k in 3 months. after reading to death im still unsure. can anyone tell me on 2 ink cards and one united what's my best card and store type purchasing option and if they know of a place in Lakewood to purchase. Tx
2) prepay utilities, phone and cable providers.
3) stock up on gift cards for the gas station and grocery store you frequent.
4) use chargesmart.com to pay your mortgage 3% fee but better than not getting the points (or Williampaid.com for rent).
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: bem684 on January 13, 2013, 11:34:23 AM
So I picked up two $500 VR cards in Queens last week at a CVS, and of course I used my Freedom card :)  It took almost 15 minutes at the register because a slip printed out of the receipt printer telling the clerk to call Chase.  He spoke to the rep for 5 minutes, then handed me the phone so I could verify that I was who I say I am, and finally after a few more minutes of cashier/chase-rep conversation the purchase went through.  I hope this doesn't happen every time I buy them!  Should I call Chase before I make the purchase to alert them that I'm going to be making a large purchase later that day?  I don't plan on buying more till next month.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 02:48:25 PM
Anywhere in deal nj?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 04:30:02 PM
Important update just in Walgreens and the register will not accept credit card for vr (they did this a while ago for green dot) so it is not going to work at Walgreens(not sure if it is system wide though)

just to clarify (to preempt all the questions)the cahier tried it but the system rejected and said CASH only
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 04:50:20 PM
Is this good?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 05:00:00 PM
Is this good?

If your looking for the card to load onto your bluebird, it's the wrong one.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 05:01:05 PM
If your looking for the card to load onto your bluebird, it's the wrong one.
You can't load that to a BB?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 05:01:42 PM
Is this?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
And I can pay my amex card with it?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 05:03:45 PM
You can't load that to a BB?

Technically you can but then I have a list of 1000 debit cards you can use.
I was assuming he was looking for the Vanilla Reloads.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
Is this?

Ding Ding Ding!! You got it
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
And I can pay my amex card with it?
And I can pay amex or citi card with it? Im buying with amex and citi

Once you load it to your bluebird you can.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 05:05:44 PM
Ding Ding Ding!! You got it

And I can pay amex or citi card with it? Im buying with amex and citi
How many can I buy with each amex platinum
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2013, 05:07:53 PM
Important update just in Walgreens and the register will not accept credit card for vr (they did this a while ago for green dot) so it is not going to work at Walgreens(not sure if it is system wide though)

just to clarify (to preempt all the questions)the cahier tried it but the system rejected and said CASH only
Even if it rejects it on their screen, if you swipe it will work...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 05:09:15 PM
Even if it rejects it on their screen, if you swipe it will work...
There has been a major software update this weekend.  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
There has been a major software update this weekend.  ;)

Indeed, sometime Friday morning
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 05:12:23 PM
Indeed, sometime Friday morning
In some places. I don't think it is complete just yet.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 05:18:23 PM
Even if it rejects it on their screen, if you swipe it will work...
trust me we tried to swipe it. and it did not take  it.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
Technically you can but then I have a list of 1000 debit cards you can use.
I was assuming he was looking for the Vanilla Reloads.
please list some debit cards? places they can be bought?
if they can be bought @ office supply stores for ink.
if they can be bought at supermarkets for amex blue 6%

kinda worth the $0.50 fee to load b.b via walmart cashier
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 05:24:02 PM
please list some debit cards?
ROFL
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
@dan
btw. I swiped and it only would let the charge of 3.95 go thru on cc in walgreens so I guess walgreens is history with vr.......

run quick cvs still working...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 05:33:26 PM
How many is safe to buy with amex?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
How many is safe to buy with amex?
Safe for whom?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 05:36:49 PM
Safe for whom?
+1
to avoid fr it depends on your spending trends.
again there are no rules
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: AJK on January 13, 2013, 05:41:00 PM
Of course there are rules. They're called algorithms.

Piss them off and you you'll be at the receiving end of an F/R. Period.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 05:41:47 PM
Safe for whom?

I need to reach $3000 threshold. I can buy 3 for about 500 each then use them to pay back the charges
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
I need to reach $3000 threshold. I can buy 3 for about 500 each then use them to pay back the charges

AGAIN IT DEPENDS ON YOUR HISTORY DO YOU NORMALLY SPEND HIGH OR NOT.
there are no guarantees in this business some had success with this and some had success with amazon payments.
do you have any income on your tax return?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
This is a new card (opened last week) so I didn't spend much on it but in the past I did spend a lot on my other cards.

Am I just safer buying on citi?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 06:00:02 PM
This is a new card (opened last week) so I didn't spend much on it but in the past I did spend a lot on my other cards.

Am I just safer buying on citi?
prob. safer to buy on citi. why do you feel compelled to buy vr? do you have a threshold to meet on citi too?

if you have history on other accounts $1500 should be ok. again YMMV
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 13, 2013, 06:14:02 PM
@dan
btw. I swiped and it only would let the charge of 3.95 go thru on cc in walgreens so I guess walgreens is history with vr.......

Same here, every store in my area changed Jan 11.   It even took the store managers by surprise - don't they send out memos anymore  ::)
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 06:25:04 PM
prob. safer to buy on citi. why do you feel compelled to buy vr? do you have a threshold to meet on citi too?

if you have history on other accounts $1500 should be ok. again YMMV

Have threshold on citi too.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 06:28:59 PM
Same here, every store in my area changed Jan 11.   It even took the store managers by surprise - don't they send out memos anymore  ::)
wow so confirmed Walgreens dead! as of 01/11
office depot dead 2 months ago. I guess matter of time now

maybe add to wiki?
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 13, 2013, 06:38:01 PM
Is this confirmed for MVD and vanilla CG or just VR?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 06:39:02 PM
Is this confirmed for MVD and vanilla CG or just VR?
don't know for sure yet. but prob. just like green dot
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 06:50:21 PM
maybe add to wiki?
Make sure to notify every blogger and forum?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 13, 2013, 06:52:26 PM
Make sure to notify every blogger and forum?
I was thinking more like a radio announcement:)

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 07:04:58 PM
I was thinking more like a radio announcement:)
chill out guys we didn't need to post this info we are just trying to help you(not helpme) by saving you a trip to walgreens

if you feel it should not be spread that walgreens no longer taking cc for vr then ok
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 13, 2013, 07:12:33 PM
chill out guys we didn't need to post this info we are just trying to help you(not helpme) by saving you a trip to walgreens
So it is OK if I waste a trip to WG?  :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 07:31:19 PM
So it is OK if I waste a trip to WG?  :P
maybe you can help us by letting us know if mvd (or vanilla gc) still work
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on January 13, 2013, 07:32:21 PM
Technically you can but then I have a list of 1000 debit cards you can use.
I was assuming he was looking for the Vanilla Reloads.
Can you list a few of the debit cards because I had a few times that I was told
 I can only purchase with the debit card . So far in the past month I have
 purchased a mixture of vr , mvd 0f about 8.5 k . Don't want to lose out on
 this opportunity when they say no more cc for your purchase .
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 07:36:18 PM
Can you list a few of the debit cards because I had a few times that I was told
 I can only purchase with the debit card . So far in the past month I have
 purchased a mixture of vr , mvd 0f about 8.5 k . Don't want to lose out on
 this opportunity when they say no more cc for your purchase .

Sure, Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo, TD, Citi etc. Basically any bank that has checking accounts will issue you a debit card for that account.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 07:42:50 PM
Can you reload vanilla reload cards with credit card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 07:52:09 PM
Sure, Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo, TD, Citi etc. Basically any bank that has checking accounts will issue you a debit card for that account.
not to be blunt but did you miss the boat? we are talking about re loadable debit cards that can be purchased with a credit card a bank issued debit card would be kinda pointless to go load onto bb. if you already have the cash in your checking account.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: alpicone on January 13, 2013, 08:13:05 PM
Same here, every store in my area changed Jan 11.   It even took the store managers by surprise - don't they send out memos anymore  ::)

I had this at a Walgreen's in NY over a month ago. Charged $3.95 and then didn't allow me to use the CC for the rest.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 13, 2013, 08:30:50 PM
I had this at a Walgreen's in NY over a month ago. Charged $3.95 and then didn't allow me to use the CC for the rest.
ok maybe it is not system wide yet then. so ymmv. anyone have success at wg after 01/11??
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: ZCN on January 13, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
Indeed, sometime Friday morning


Can you say something more about this? I was denied using a CC this past week.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mas on January 13, 2013, 08:55:02 PM
Tried Walgreens, Rite Aid, CVS... all declined to allow me to pay for Vanilla Reload using credit card.... when I was able to buy them last week of December without a problem.... what other stores sell Vanilla Reload or any prepaid debit card for that matter that i can withdraw the money from using a credit card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on January 13, 2013, 08:59:40 PM
just purchased at cvs with no issue today
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mas on January 13, 2013, 09:01:03 PM
jmansour what location?
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 13, 2013, 09:29:34 PM
Can you reload vanilla reload cards with credit card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yakovwogi on January 13, 2013, 09:35:50 PM
just purchased at cvs with no issue today
me too..but then again I am in Texas, so no real surprise that the system hasn't been abused here....yet
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: mas on January 13, 2013, 09:39:31 PM
yeah looks like i will have to make a round of all CVS... and once i find one... buy 1k at a time and make a few rounds
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: bem684 on January 13, 2013, 09:43:55 PM
So I picked up two $500 VR cards in Queens last week at a CVS, and of course I used my Freedom card :)  It took almost 15 minutes at the register because a slip printed out of the receipt printer telling the clerk to call Chase.  He spoke to the rep for 5 minutes, then handed me the phone so I could verify that I was who I say I am, and finally after a few more minutes of cashier/chase-rep conversation the purchase went through.  I hope this doesn't happen every time I buy them!  Should I call Chase before I make the purchase to alert them that I'm going to be making a large purchase later that day?  I don't plan on buying more till next month.
..

Just quoting what I said FOUR PAGES AGO but only TEN HOURS AGO.... talk about a busy thread lol.  Anyone else have to jump through hoops when they charged a grand at a drugstore?
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 13, 2013, 09:47:44 PM
I was I'm Texas the past month and bought on cvs very often. Walgreens was updated for me in Texas before New Years. I tried to buy with cc and tried to swipe myself and would not work. I think that ymmv. I'm going to a couple Walgreens tonight will update what happens.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
not to be blunt but did you miss the boat? we are talking about re loadable debit cards that can be purchased with a credit card a bank issued debit card would be kinda pointless to go load onto bb. if you already have the cash in your checking account.

Couldn't find the sarcasm emoticon when I made that post, but I guess I should try harder next time.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 13, 2013, 10:16:23 PM
in miami beach. will try some more.
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on January 13, 2013, 10:21:10 PM
in miami beach. will try some more.


And... Did credit card work? Was that is WG or CVS?
I pick up one on my way to work most days.
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 13, 2013, 10:30:28 PM

And... Did credit card work? Was that is WG or CVS?
I pick up one on my way to work most days.
Walgreens. Cvs should still work
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 13, 2013, 10:35:54 PM

And... Did credit card work? Was that is WG or CVS?
I pick up one on my way to work most days.


Click on the picture to zoom then read the sign :)
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on January 13, 2013, 10:42:35 PM


Click on the picture to zoom then read the sign :)

???
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: A3 on January 13, 2013, 10:43:17 PM
Walgreens. Cvs should still work

Old news but Cvs worked find for me this morn. Will stop again on my way home.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on January 13, 2013, 11:15:15 PM
Wondering whats tougher to get these days, vanilla reloads or a flu vaccine lol
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on January 13, 2013, 11:16:56 PM
Wondering whats tougher to get these days, vanilla reloads or a flu vaccine lol
did that all in 1 pop this evening
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: moshiach1 on January 14, 2013, 03:19:29 AM
Can VR cards be reloadable?

Also can I pay from my bluebird account my wifes amex card?

Thanks
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 14, 2013, 03:45:54 AM
Can VR cards be reloadable?

Also can I pay from my bluebird account my wifes amex card?

Thanks
1)No

2)Yes but not suggested.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 14, 2013, 09:13:13 AM
1)No

2)Yes but not suggested.

why? you say that I payed tons of other ppl. credit card bills from bb. no problem in fact how would they even know you just put in account number
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 14, 2013, 09:29:52 AM
With BB I don't see why sending checks whereever you want, including to yourself, would be a problem. That's what checking accounts are for. This is supposed to be a checking alternative. Anyone with the logic?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 14, 2013, 09:40:19 AM
why? you say that I payed tons of other ppl. credit card bills from bb. no problem in fact how would they even know you just put in account number
IMHO amex might look into it. Could be not, do what you want. Just saying my opinions.   

Title: NEW VANILLA RELOAD CARD IN FAMILY DOLLAR
Post by: rena2 on January 14, 2013, 10:12:53 AM
I went to Family Dollar to purchase a vanilla reload card, but they had a new kind.  It looks just like the old kind except with no pin number on the back.  The clerk tried to get it to work by swiping my bluebird card, but the register kept asking for a 16 digit card number.  Anyone know how to use this card?  thanks.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 14, 2013, 10:14:08 AM
IMHO amex might look into it. Could be not, do what you want. Just saying my opinions.
@nutcase his point was that its not recommended with amex but with other cc companies it should be fine to pay other peoples bills.
Title: Re: NEW VANILLA RELOAD CARD IN FAMILY DOLLAR
Post by: mod on January 14, 2013, 10:24:58 AM
I went to Family Dollar to purchase a vanilla reload card, but they had a new kind.  It looks just like the old kind except with no pin number on the back.  The clerk tried to get it to work by swiping my bluebird card, but the register kept asking for a 16 digit card number.  Anyone know how to use this card?  thanks.

Do you have a pic of the card you bought?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: rena2 on January 14, 2013, 10:30:50 AM
I couldn't buy it because we didn't know how to load it.  it looks like the regular one that has a scratch off pin number.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 14, 2013, 04:27:18 PM
The walgreens I used to use changed their policy as well.. looks like walgreens is over..
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 14, 2013, 04:52:51 PM
looks like walgreens is over..
...another one bites the dust.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 14, 2013, 04:56:38 PM
...another one bites the dust.

What was your damage with this one?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 14, 2013, 04:59:21 PM
What was your damage with this one?
Nothing, no WG's by me that took CC's.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 14, 2013, 05:02:05 PM
Nothing, no WG's by me that took CC's.
:(
hope your doing better with CVS.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 14, 2013, 05:04:29 PM
:(
hope your doing better with CVS.
Don't Cry for Me Argentina  ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: gpapadop on January 14, 2013, 05:36:53 PM
My reliable local Walgreens I have used for a long time appears to be over. Clerk showed me the screen, cash only. Called manager, he looked clueless, "if register says cash only, it is cash only". Oh well, went across to the street at CVS, bang, business as usual there...

I am sensing the end is near...
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 14, 2013, 06:04:49 PM
same here cvs still working like a charm was just there no problems at all.
btw someone asked this before I bought a paypal my cash card same price $503.95 loaded to my paypal account no problems.
why again are these not suggested to use?
limit $500 per day, $4000 per month.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 14, 2013, 06:15:24 PM
why again are these not suggested to use?
Maybe they don't want another one killed?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 14, 2013, 07:41:55 PM
I bought a paypal my cash card same price $503.95 loaded to my paypal account no problems.

Did you withdraw it or are you planning to use it to pay people for things?  The issue with paypal is they are evil, and people have reported getting their account suspended and funds held for 180 days, after doing a few cash card loads and withdrawals.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 14, 2013, 07:49:00 PM
Did you withdraw it or are you planning to use it to pay people for things?  The issue with paypal is they are evil, and people have reported getting their account suspended and funds held for 180 days, after doing a few cash card loads and withdrawals.
You just ruined all the fun.  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: 3ZeroT on January 14, 2013, 08:05:05 PM
You just ruined all the fun.  :)

LOL, sorry.  You probably had your popcorn ready for the upcoming "Paypal froze all my money what do I do" thread.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on January 14, 2013, 09:03:12 PM
What's the theory? Was this walgreen's decision or were they pushed into it by the cc companies?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: googleyeshivabocher on January 14, 2013, 10:26:54 PM
anyone know if you can link thee bb account to deposit automatically money into a checking account ?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 14, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
anyone know if you can link thee bb account to deposit automatically money into a checking account ?

Yes you can
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yossi4k on January 14, 2013, 10:32:44 PM
What's the theory? Was this walgreen's decision or were they pushed into it by the cc companies?
The way I see it Walgreens is losing at least 2.5% on every vr, $12.50 and they charge $3.95....No brainer
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: chaimmayer on January 14, 2013, 10:55:36 PM
The way I see it Walgreens is losing at least 2.5% on every vr, $12.50 and they charge $3.95....No brainer

What was the hava amina? They would make it up in volume :P
Title: Re: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 14, 2013, 11:20:24 PM
The way I see it Walgreens is losing at least 2.5% on every vr, $12.50 and they charge $3.95....No brainer
do you really think $500 goes to vanilla?? no way you can go into any store and buy a prepaid amex,visa,mc.. for $505.95 think store only gets $5.95? what about amazon,lowes... they sell you $500 for $500 think they dont make anything. answer is vanilla does not get all $500 of it (they obviously have unclaimed money to offset the difference)
Title: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 14, 2013, 11:24:36 PM
The way I see it Walgreens is losing at least 2.5% on every vr, $12.50 and they charge $3.95....No brainer

not exactly. there are probably people loading less than 100 on their vrs too = tiny profit. but does Walgreens get the 3.95 or the vanilla network?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 14, 2013, 11:29:19 PM
not exactly. there are probably people loading less than 100 on their vrs too = tiny profit. but does Walgreens get the 3.95 or the vanilla network?
+1 and ppl. prob load with cash too.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 14, 2013, 11:36:10 PM
You just ruined all the fun.  :)
I am not so worried I am a very good paypal customer I spend alot of money through them. I once called about a small paypal transaction that caused my checking account to overdraw(they always use bank account as primary and you need to manually change it each time so I forgot once). I told the cs rep. I was unhappy. few hours later a woman from paypal executive office called me and assured me they will do whatever it takes to retain me as a customer. she credited me for overdrawn fee from my bank!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 01:08:35 AM
I am not so worried I am a very good paypal customer I spend alot of money through them.
They don't care. I was banned for spending to much.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 01:09:34 AM
LOL, sorry.  You probably had your popcorn ready for the upcoming "Paypal froze all my money what do I do" thread.
Nothing like a good train wreck!  :)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yyk on January 15, 2013, 03:46:44 AM
Sorry Dan, but I don't understand completely how that helps me? If your intent was for me to just get rid of the card then fine. But what about the fact that I then won't be able to use AP like I normally would each month with my different cards to rack up points, bec of the $1,000 limit? Is there any way to get this cashed out at a bank?

Does anyone know the answer to this please? This is referring to loading the OneVanilla prepaid visa to AP using the fake exp trick, since I purchased the wrong card and don't know what to do with it now.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 03:51:15 AM
Does anyone know the answer to this please? This is referring to loading the OneVanilla prepaid visa to AP using the fake exp trick, since I purchased the wrong card and don't know what to do with it now.
Dan gave you the answer. You don't want to use it for AP?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: MEIR613 on January 15, 2013, 06:00:14 AM
I am not so worried I am a very good paypal customer I spend alot of money through them. I once called about a small paypal transaction that caused my checking account to overdraw(they always use bank account as primary and you need to manually change it each time so I forgot once). I told the cs rep. I was unhappy. few hours later a woman from paypal executive office called me and assured me they will do whatever it takes to retain me as a customer. she credited me for overdrawn fee from my bank!
I read on a blog somewhere. That someone also had an amazing relationsdhip with paypal and tried some stuff and got nice letter from paypal asking to please stop.

Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: shaytmg on January 15, 2013, 07:09:36 AM
Does anyone know how long it takes for a payment from Bluebird to show up in your Amex account?

I made a payments over the weekend and it says it was paid to Amex yesterday but I am not seeing it in my Amex account yet.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 07:19:10 AM
Does anyone know how long it takes for a payment from Bluebird to show up in your Amex account?

I made a payments over the weekend and it says it was paid to Amex yesterday but I am not seeing it in my Amex account yet.

Thanks.
Check later today.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 09:40:34 AM
I am not so worried I am a very good paypal customer I spend alot of money through them. I once called about a small paypal transaction that caused my checking account to overdraw(they always use bank account as primary and you need to manually change it each time so I forgot once).
??? Not by me they don't. My primary is PP balance and secondary is CC.
Dan gave you the answer. You don't want to use it for AP?
He doesn't want to use it on AP because then he can't use AP for his credit cards.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 15, 2013, 09:54:01 AM
I am not so worried I am a very good paypal customer I spend alot of money through them. I once called about a small paypal transaction that caused my checking account to overdraw(they always use bank account as primary and you need to manually change it each time so I forgot once). I told the cs rep. I was unhappy. few hours later a woman from paypal executive office called me and assured me they will do whatever it takes to retain me as a customer. she credited me for overdrawn fee from my bank!
http://www.paypalsucks.com/

They are a massive bank handling millions of dollars a year, yet they aren't regulated by any government agency.  Therefore they can do whatever they want and you'll be stuck
 
You need them way more than they need you. If you are a buyer or seller on ebay there really isn't any alternative.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yyk on January 15, 2013, 11:02:50 AM
He doesn't want to use it on AP because then he can't use AP for his credit cards.

Exactly! Thanks!
What would be the reason for me to use AP if I then won't be able to use it for my other credit cards. If Dan's whole reason was just for me to have a way to get rid of the cards then fine. But other than that I don't see a logical reason to do this. Am I not understanding this correctly? Is there any way to get these cashed at a bank so I can then use AP like I normally would? Thanks!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 11:19:04 AM
No.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 15, 2013, 11:34:33 AM
Exactly! Thanks!
What would be the reason for me to use AP if I then won't be able to use it for my other credit cards. If Dan's whole reason was just for me to have a way to get rid of the cards then fine. But other than that I don't see a logical reason to do this. Am I not understanding this correctly? Is there any way to get these cashed at a bank so I can then use AP like I normally would? Thanks!
then swallow the $4.95 fee you payed and go buy vr or mvd with your gift card
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 15, 2013, 11:37:13 AM
Nothing like a good train wreck!  :)
Are you really serious??
Why would executive office call me. And pay my overdraft fees?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2013, 11:42:33 AM
Someone asked about this earlier but I did not see an answer. When I first started with bluebird and not knowing much about it I accidentally purchased the wrong vanilla card. I purchased the OneVanilla prepaid Visa card. Does anyone know what I can do with this card to cash it out?
You can try to convert it to an MVD and take a cash advance out.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Mimi K. on January 15, 2013, 12:32:50 PM
Just messed up. I thought I found the right vanilla cards, but in the end they were the myvanilla reloadable debit cards that don't work with bluebird  :(
+1  :(
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yyk on January 15, 2013, 12:58:13 PM
You can try to convert it to an MVD and take a cash advance out.

Dan, can you please explain what you mean when you say "convert to an MVD"? Are you referring to me going to CVS and asking if they can switch my card for an MVD, or are you thinking of some other method of conversion?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2013, 01:15:04 PM
Dan, can you please explain what you mean when you say "convert to an MVD"? Are you referring to me going to CVS and asking if they can switch my card for an MVD, or are you thinking of some other method of conversion?
Try upgrading it.
https://www.onevanilla.com/onevanilla/upgrade.html
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 01:50:39 PM
Try upgrading it.
https://www.onevanilla.com/onevanilla/upgrade.html
Well if that works that would make things a heckuva lot easier for those of us with difficulty finding MVD/VR.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2013, 01:54:26 PM
Well if that works that would make things a heckuva lot easier for those of us with difficulty finding MVD/VR.
Post the results.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yyk on January 15, 2013, 01:58:06 PM
Well if that works that would make things a heckuva lot easier for those of us with difficulty finding MVD/VR.

+1

Yeah that would be awesome!
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: njmacman on January 15, 2013, 03:34:29 PM
1+
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 03:51:46 PM
Are you really serious??
Why would executive office call me. And pay my overdraft fees?
Yes and DNDC.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 03:54:20 PM
Post the results.
1 - Post results
2 - See it DD
3 - See it at every blog and forum
4 - See it shut down
5 - Did I miss anything?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2013, 04:01:03 PM
1 - Post results
2 - See it DD
3 - See it at every blog and forum
4 - See it shut down
5 - Did I miss anything?
Nope, that's perfect.
I think I know exactly what the results will be either way ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
OK so I bought the OneVanilla using a My Vanilla Debit. I know I can't use it on Amazon Payments for fear of an FR, but my question is can I use it to get American Airlines vouchers?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 04:11:21 PM
OK so I bought the OneVanilla using a My Vanilla Debit. I know I can't use it on Amazon Payments for fear of an FR, but my question is can I use it to get American Airlines vouchers?
+1. Bump. Anyone?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Saver2000 on January 15, 2013, 04:19:34 PM
OK so I bought the OneVanilla using a My Vanilla Debit. I know I can't use it on Amazon Payments for fear of an FR, but my question is can I use it to get American Airlines vouchers?
??? ??? ???
+1. Bump. Anyone?
::)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2013, 04:19:59 PM
OK so I bought the OneVanilla using a My Vanilla Debit. I know I can't use it on Amazon Payments for fear of an FR
Huh?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 04:25:31 PM
Sorry, didn't expect to have to qualify that as being facetious.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 15, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
Sorry, didn't expect to have to qualify that as being facetious.

I chuckled at the post and the follow up bump lol.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 15, 2013, 05:22:28 PM
Nope, that's perfect.
I think I know exactly what the results will be either way ;)


Not sure which way you are implying, but even though it says
 
Quote
Have a Vanilla Gift Card or OneVanilla Card and want to upgrade?
I can confirm that you can't convert a vanilla gift card :(. Didn't try the OV.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: yitzf on January 15, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
I can confirm that you can't convert a vanilla gift card :(. Didn't try the OV.

To a VR or to a MVD?
The original plan was to convert it to a MVD
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Redbull3 on January 15, 2013, 05:31:29 PM
To a VR or to a MVD?
The original plan was to convert it to a MVD

MVD.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 05:52:20 PM
Nope, that's perfect.
I think I know exactly what the results will be either way ;)
LOL. It will just accelerate the process.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 15, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
OK so I bought the OneVanilla using a My Vanilla Debit. I know I can't use it on Amazon Payments for fear of an FR, but my question is can I use it to get American Airlines vouchers?
me too then I bought a paypal cash card now what?? ;)
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
Sorry, didn't expect to have to qualify that as being facetious.
+1
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
me too then I bought a paypal cash card now what?? ;)
Just wait and when you get shut down please post so we can say "told ya".  :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 15, 2013, 06:03:09 PM
Just wait and when you get shut down please post so we can say "told ya".  :P
Sorry, didn't expect to have to qualify that as being facetious.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: HelpMe on January 15, 2013, 06:07:31 PM
Sorry, didn't expect to have to qualify that as being facetious.
Is there an echo in here?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yeki89 on January 15, 2013, 06:26:16 PM
Try upgrading it.
https://www.onevanilla.com/onevanilla/upgrade.html
how do plan on doing that?
Doesnt it work the other way?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on January 15, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
Just went to the CVS I went to last week and tried to buy a VR and cashier shot me down, even said "It's always been cash only, my store manager told me." when I told him I bought one just last week.

Should I try again tomorrow and hope for a better cashier?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2013, 07:40:34 PM
Should I try again tomorrow and hope for a better cashier?
No. Leave more for me.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: compddd on January 15, 2013, 07:43:12 PM
No. Leave more for me.

Noted!  ;D
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 15, 2013, 08:01:20 PM
So annoying to wait for the BB card to come. Sitting on 12K in VR and cannot do anything with it yet.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on January 15, 2013, 08:08:34 PM
I pass by an "undisclosed" CVS few times a week, buying $1000 in VR's when ever I stop by. Thats max they let me buy per day. I just about reached 10k on my BA card in a month in a half, to meet the intial threshold and 25k + 12.5k for 10k spend. Should I go for another 25k for 10k spend? $79 for 37.5k?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 15, 2013, 08:12:46 PM
I pass by an "undisclosed" CVS few times a week, buying $1000 in VR's when ever I stop by. Thats max they let me buy per day. I just about reached 10k on my BA card in a month in a half, to meet the intial threshold and 25k + 12.5k for 10k spend. Should I go for another 25k for 10k spend? $79 for 37.5k?
I would, just make sure to put other spending on the card as well.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Shmelly on January 15, 2013, 08:17:01 PM
Just went to the CVS I went to last week and tried to buy a VR and cashier shot me down, even said "It's always been cash only, my store manager told me." when I told him I bought one just last week.

Should I try again tomorrow and hope for a better cashier?
I asked a manager who allowed me to use CC for his name. When I next went back and a different cashier said no to me, I told her that Furuque had previously allowed it. That was enough to get her to change her story. Obviously in this case, YMMV.
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Thingywingy on January 15, 2013, 08:25:53 PM
The truth is I only need to put on about 5k the rest I can do in "real" spending. Anyone else out there buying VRs to meet 20k on BA card?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: robi on January 15, 2013, 08:31:50 PM
The truth is I only need to put on about 5k the rest I can do in "real" spending. Anyone else out there buying VRs to meet 20k on BA card?
yep
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: Yeki89 on January 15, 2013, 10:13:59 PM
OK so I bought the OneVanilla using a My Vanilla Debit. I know I can't use it on Amazon Payments for fear of an FR, but my question is can I use it to get American Airlines vouchers?
what do you mean, why can't you amazon payment it?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on January 15, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
The truth is I only need to put on about 5k the rest I can do in "real" spending. Anyone else out there buying VRs to meet 20k on BA card?
Yup trying for the higher bonus
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: jmansour on January 15, 2013, 10:23:38 PM
Is there any issue with doing an atm withdrawal and then depositing the cash?
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: nutcase on January 15, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
what do you mean, why can't you amazon payment it?
duh. he doesn't want an fr from them :P
Title: Re: Bluebird: Now you can pay bills that don`t take credit card with a credit card
Post by: btab on January 16, 2013,