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Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 05, 2010, 01:43:08 PM
im thinking about going to russia and ukraine this summer. does anyone have any info regarding how to get there from tlv, which cities to visit etc? im thinking a few days in moscow, a few days in st petersburg, then fly to kiev, go to uman and mezhibuzh? anything else? does it make sense to rent a car in kiev? any idea about weather in the summer? any help/tips would be appreciated
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 05, 2010, 02:20:48 PM
From TLV to Moscow the cheapest fares are normally with transaero... it's worth checking some flight comparison sites to see what comes up, I find skyscanner.com to be very good.

Moscow and Petersburg are quite interesting. Both are nice cities... Petersburg is beautiful!! Nicer than many European cities. The Hermitage is a must. The shul there is one of the biggest in Europe and also very nice! Moscow has all the usual famous sites...

If you are lubavitch there are many other places of interest. The Village of lubavitch which is located outside Smolensk about a 6-7 hour drive from Moscow if I'm not mistaken.

Hotels in Moscow aren't cheap, and Petersburg I would suspect also being expensive.

In Russian and Ukraine I wouldn't suggest renting cars... Driving is a pain, you'll get lost and stopped by police... Best would be to arrange a driver to meat you in Borispol and take you to the places you want to visit. There is also the Alter Rebbe in Haditch and Berdichov (r' levi yitzchok...) Nyezhin is another....



Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moe on May 05, 2010, 03:11:05 PM
chikkymonkey, you dont sound like you are from afghanistan. you may want to swich the country lol!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 05, 2010, 03:21:07 PM
moe - lets stay on topic. btw did u get the email i sent?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: me on May 05, 2010, 06:49:12 PM
Ive been to Yalta... Its beautiful!

You have to take an overnight sleeping train in Russia/Ukraine for the full experience!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: mancunian on May 05, 2010, 09:51:43 PM
You have to take an overnight sleeping train in Russia/Ukraine for the full experience!
that was a joke right :-\
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: me on May 05, 2010, 10:53:16 PM
that was a joke right :-\

Partial joke - if you think you could handsle it - you should try it! I took the train from Kiev to Yalta... If I remember correctly it was about 23 hours.. :)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 06, 2010, 01:19:20 AM
Something I always wanted to do is taking the Trans Siberian from east to west. (Apparently you can go as far as Singapore !)
You need a lot of visas to do it though.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: mancunian on May 06, 2010, 01:36:36 AM
i once did it in ukraine but never again - we didnt get first or the full room!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 06:04:00 AM
so does anone have any tips/info?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 06, 2010, 08:41:07 AM
If you say what you are looking for I can help...

Yalta is a very nice city... It's in the Crimea (a peninsula on the black sea) and there  are some nice cities and sites there.. keep in mind this trip won't be your average sightseeing trip, it'll be adventurous and interesting.

Taking the train is interesting, and an experience to remember, especially if you take the plutzkart (which is basically a cabin without seperate rooms... it's all open and has three beds on on top of the other (some have two..)

Russia, you need a visa for (if you're not carrying an Israeli passport) and for Ukraine you need a visa if you ARE carrying an israeli passport.

IF you are in a city in Russia for more than 3 days you have to register with the local authorities.. it's usually done by the hotel at which you are staying.
 
You can get some great Vodka souvenirs... Also the best Vodka in the world (in my opinion) and hasn't yet made it to the states is called Beluga... look it up!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 06, 2010, 09:16:24 AM
im actually going with a wife and 2 year old so im not sure train travel would work. the best pricing i can find for the flights which originate in tlv to visit moscow, st petersburg, kiev, and stopping in athens for a few days on the way back to tlv is around $850. is this normal?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 07, 2010, 01:14:44 AM
Athens, I'd stay 2 days at most, spend rather your time in st petersburg and moscow.
About greece, keep a eye on the news, its a balagan there now, as the economy is a "goyses" right now.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 07, 2010, 05:53:55 AM
Athens, I'd stay 2 days at most, spend rather your time in st petersburg and moscow.
About greece, keep a eye on the news, its a balagan there now, as the economy is a "goyses" right now.

thursday-shabbos then crete  for a couple days
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 08, 2010, 05:56:48 PM
I was by s/o at home and the TV was on. The news was pretty much dominated by the Athens events. The parliament building was being attacked by the population, as salaries and retirement benefits have been lowered aggressively.

Please don't go there, not now.

Once again, I'm not the scared type, and made lots of crazy things already, but where a matzev is unstable and the people raging, its not a good time.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 08, 2010, 06:34:11 PM
i am the scared type but i would think that in 2 months it would be straightened out
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: me on May 09, 2010, 12:43:27 AM
I was by s/o at home and the TV was on.

All good stories begin that way ;)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 01:33:04 AM
Sounds good, although the only time I turn one on is when I'm on holiday. There is so much nonsense and ads on it that I thank the Lord for not having one.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 09, 2010, 07:38:18 AM
whats the story with antisemitism there? we usually wear a cap and dont get called out as jews on our trips but got a little concerned after reading this, http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/57158/Brutal-Murder-of-Yeshiva-Bachur-in-Kiev-[UPDATED-109PM-IL].html. can i safely assume that it was an isolated incident?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 09, 2010, 07:44:13 AM
There are definitely people with anti-semitic inclinations... I have been to all places you mentioned with full garb and aside from lots of stares haven't experienced any problems... and I've been there for extensive periods of time....

Moscow and Petersburg are less of a problem in my opinion as there are very "western" and are use to seeing many tourists... I have friends living in all these places without problem.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 07:58:12 AM
Despite what people think, the biggest anti semites, aren't germans, but poles, ukranians, slovaks,croats.
They are the worst!
Kiev is in the ukraine....
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 09, 2010, 09:06:03 AM
the truth is i dont plan on staying in kiev too long, rather uman, berditchev and mezhibuzh
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 09:11:25 AM
Dont go alone...
Only with some experienced people.
Some 12 years ago, those #*@$ set ablaze the kever of the berditcheve....
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on May 09, 2010, 09:16:30 AM
how about with my family and a recommended guide? as i dont know the facts of your story, i would assume it happened during the night hours. i only plan on visiting during the day
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 09, 2010, 09:23:55 AM
My chavrusa showed me pics he toke in the ukaraine.
Day 1: kever of the berditcheve looks nice.
Day 3: kever completely destroyed, burned and graffiti on what's left of it...

A guide would be a good idea, and probably not expensive.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: Crazy tools on May 09, 2010, 09:50:22 AM
be carefull in ukraine a lubavitcher guy was kidnapped & cut onto 10 pieces yesterday BD"E (more on vosizneias.com)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
Post by: moish on June 08, 2010, 08:12:45 AM
does anyone have the contact info for R' Yaakov Bleich in kiev? additionally. a reliable driver that can take us to berditchev mezhibuzh and uman?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: milechazzer on June 10, 2010, 11:02:11 AM
moish - I sent you a message with his email address
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 10, 2010, 11:09:35 AM
moish - I sent you a message with his email address
thanks i actually emailed that address and received no response. are you familiar with ukraine to answer some itinerary questions?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Avid Reader on June 10, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
Been to Moscow, S. Petersburg, Rostov and Chelyabinsk a decade ago. S Petersburg is a must. You get to see what royalty looked like.

I wonder if you can still buy the hats off the Russian police for the right bribe? In my day every other guy did it.

TIP: Check the "How many airports been to thread" to see who's been there.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 10, 2010, 12:06:19 PM
Forget about the hat... trust me!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Avid Reader on June 10, 2010, 03:37:23 PM
You tried?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: youG on June 12, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
Was in Moscow and sorounding area 3 times for a month each in a camp and took the overnight train one year to St. Petersburg and stayed in the lubavitch dorms beautiful cities!! Don't look to much like s tourist and stay away from the police ESP. In the airport as they once stopped me and pulled me aside and said my passport is fake and many "ploblems" unless my friend and I give them 400$ each.... Long story just stay away and make sure your visa is good untill after the day you leave cuz my travel agent messed up my visa and it expired day before I left and I almost didn't get out ( had to find the airport embassy and convince them with money of course to give me visa extension and just made my plane!)
but shermetavo airport is very nice go to the shuk there as well as red square cremlin..Rabbi goldschmidt shul is very nice and there's a kosher restar. In it.
P.S Good luck it's not simple to get around as Russian non Jews despise English speaking ppl
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 12, 2010, 04:11:42 PM
where did you get your visa in israel? how long did it take? was it an american passport?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: youG on June 12, 2010, 04:20:42 PM
I got it twice in Canada with Canadian passport through a travel agent where i had my visa problem  and once in Israel from the embassy in Tel aviv I don't remember how long it takes but I can find out as a friend of mine is going to Moscow this week
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 12, 2010, 04:23:48 PM
i would appreciate it. also where to get the invitation
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 13, 2010, 05:20:19 AM
Any travel agent dealing with Russia can help with invitation... I know in NY, but not sure about Israel.

Important to note, if you plan to stay in the same city for 3 days or more you will need to register with the police. IF you don't they can make problems for you when you leave.. (normally not a problem if you're traveling as you're never in the same city for too long.)

Visas can take from 3 - 20 days, different prices... I would recommend going through a travel agency as oppose to going to the consulate yourself. Call any travel agent dealing with Russia they'll do it for you.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: youG on June 13, 2010, 04:57:16 PM
The visa from the embassy takes about a week or so but the invitation is a bit more complicated if you pm me your number I can have my friend contact you but he is goin on wed. From tlv
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 13, 2010, 05:05:58 PM
i think im just going to pay the $30 for an invitation online from waytorussia.com
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MisterHock on July 20, 2010, 09:12:43 AM
did you go yet?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 20, 2010, 09:42:31 AM
going thursday. i read that the bal hatanya was locked up in st petersburg prison. can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MisterHock on July 20, 2010, 09:51:01 AM
u wanna tell me your itinerary and i can tell you tips about each city
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 20, 2010, 10:44:23 AM
thanks
thursday tlv-led
fri-mon nite st petersburg
mon nite led-dme
tues-fri morning moscow
fri morning- svo-kbp
friday drive to mezhibuzh via berdichev
shabbos-sunday mezhibuzh, drive to uman
monday-uman, drive to kiev
tues, wednesday kiev
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: elikay on July 20, 2010, 11:32:53 AM
 http://is.gd/dzwua  (http://is.gd/dzwua)
Dan, you could put it to htsti I'm having trouble from my mobile.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 20, 2010, 11:35:09 AM
Yup the Alter Rebbe was locked up in Petersburg, there is a museum where the jail once stood with a wax figure of the alter rebbe (which doesn't really resemble him...) it's on an island if im not mistaken.. (or atleast you have to take a boat there)

Good luck and enjoy your stay... where are you staying? Moscow has a few restaurants, but I hear the restaurant in Bolshaya Bronaya (which is more centrally located to the kremlin if I remember correctly, it's in a shul) is suppose to be very good.. it's a kavkazi restaurant, you probably haven't tried that yet. 

Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 20, 2010, 11:53:29 AM
st pete - ambassador
moscow - ph ararat
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 20, 2010, 11:53:59 AM
are you sure he wasnt held at the peter and paul fortress?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MisterHock on July 20, 2010, 12:16:27 PM
thanks
thursday tlv-led
fri-mon nite st petersburg
mon nite led-dme
tues-fri morning moscow
fri morning- svo-kbp
friday drive to mezhibuzh via berdichev
shabbos-sunday mezhibuzh, drive to uman
monday-uman, drive to kiev
tues, wednesday kiev
im just a lil busy right now, but i will answer you later!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Avid Reader on July 21, 2010, 08:39:25 AM
are you sure he wasnt held at the peter and paul fortress?

Yes it was the Peter and Paul fortress. The is another Jail, in  S. Petersburg called the Shpalerke were the previous Chabad Rebbe was incarcerated.
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 06, 2011, 11:43:42 AM
If I were to have a 15 or 17 Hr stopover in SVO (Moscow) and I don't have a visa - am I able to enter Moscow or I'm stuck in the airport ?!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 06, 2011, 11:59:15 AM
well you dont have a visa. whats your question? if the visa is optional?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 06, 2011, 12:14:24 PM
well you dont have a visa. whats your question? if they only prefer that you have a visa but its unnecessary?

In some countries that require visas, they allow for a 24-48 hour exception in certain cities (PVG is one). I tried for it in Bangalore, India but they wouldn't hear of it. They even made a big deal about letting me transit for that long (it was about 10 hours) and assigned a shady looking guy to watch us in the lounge the whole night. Made me feel very uncomfortable
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 06, 2011, 12:55:23 PM
how can they enforce the 24-48 hours? just by seeing an airline ticket?
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 06, 2011, 12:59:09 PM
well you dont have a visa. whats your question? if the visa is optional?

No my question is . I know you need a visa to enter but since I don't have a visa, and my stopover is really long - 15 hrs - will they give me a pass in to Russia for that time period ?
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 06, 2011, 01:00:25 PM
In some countries that require visas, they allow for a 24-48 hour exception in certain cities (PVG is one).

How can I find out if SVO will allow that?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: me on March 06, 2011, 01:12:59 PM
A few years back - I was once in SVO on my way out and there was a frum yid there that missed a connection to Israel and had to wait for the next flight. he told me that uncer no circumstance would they let him through passport control, even to a hotel on the airport...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 06, 2011, 01:16:54 PM
kinda makes sense
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 06, 2011, 03:27:50 PM
kinda makes sense

I'm not sure how normal that is, because the flight I wanna take has stopovers up to a full day! Or 17 hrs. So it's only right for them to let u go to a hotel (leave the airport)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: me on March 06, 2011, 04:11:43 PM
I'm not sure how normal that is, because the flight I wanna take has stopovers up to a full day! Or 17 hrs. So it's only right for them to let u go to a hotel (leave the airport)

They will let you as long as they know who you are. For them to know who you are, you have to apply for a visa...

If you have the time, why dont you get a proper visa??
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 06, 2011, 04:19:45 PM
its probably too expensive and too cumbersome for a mere 17 hours
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on March 06, 2011, 10:31:37 PM
If I were to have a 15 or 17 Hr stopover in SVO (Moscow) and I don't have a visa - am I able to enter Moscow or I'm stuck in the airport ?!

Reminds me of The Terminal...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2011, 10:40:56 PM
Reminds me of The Terminal...
Lol
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 07, 2011, 02:29:11 AM
So it's only right for them to let u go to a hotel (leave the airport)

That attitude will get you very far outside of Yeshiva.
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 07, 2011, 04:05:23 AM
Reminds me of The Terminal...

:)

That attitude will get you very far outside of Yeshiva.

?
Title: Moscow Airport
Post by: Nitantnel on May 01, 2011, 11:20:40 PM
Hi all
I am going to be in the DOMODEDOVO  (MOSCOW) airport for a whooping 13 hours, (and So is my wife and baby!). It is 500 Dollars cheaper for each of us, and Visas to leave defeat me saving temptation (165 reach, and without taxis Etc). I do have lounge access and that's what my question is about:
1. Are the lounges nice?
2. will they let me stay inside for 13 Hours?
3. and most important: is the airport safe?

Please help!
Title: Re: Moscow Airport
Post by: sawlw on May 02, 2011, 12:39:00 AM
Don't have answers for ur first 2 q's but regarding ur 3rd q , statistically they don't bomb airports twice in 6 month's  ;)
Title: Re: Moscow Airport
Post by: Nitantnel on May 02, 2011, 01:16:50 PM
Not being blown up is pretty good...   :)
What about theft? They say that theft is the Russian expertise
Also, I jut realized that my AMAX platinum will not help me with lounges in DME (domodedovo)! :'( :'( :'(
 Does anybody have an idea how I can get access to a lounge? I do see that the business lounge will let me in for 60 Euro, but that's way to much for a dedicated Dans-deals member...

BTW Dan, too much security for a silly post. first I got to strain my eyes for a minute, (and than hope not to make a mistake). Finally I have to  show my loyalty to you - dear Dan...
Title: Re: Moscow Airport
Post by: shmuelb on May 09, 2011, 02:33:44 PM
Hi Nitanel,

What time of day/night will you be there? Do you have Israeli citizenship? (then you would not need a visa) In how long are you flying? From when I last looked into this, it should not be so much for a one day - to 30 day, visa. Where were you thinking of getting the visa?

I lived in Moscow for a few years and I would suggest going in to the city maybe. I can give you places,  ppl etc. There is a cheap, possibly free based on airline carrier, train that takes you into Moscow. I can maybe get you a great driver for cheap, with a nice car.

What else? It is a nice airport. Avoid Sheremetyevo 1 at all cost, so they say. It is notorious, rated the worst airport in the world.

All the best!
Title: Re: Moscow Airport
Post by: Side incomer on May 09, 2011, 02:47:09 PM
Hi all
I am going to be in the DOMODEDOVO  (MOSCOW) airport for a whooping 13 hours, (and So is my wife and baby!). It is 500 Dollars cheaper for each of us, and Visas to leave defeat me saving temptation (165 reach, and without taxis Etc). I do have lounge access and that's what my question is about:
1. Are the lounges nice?
2. will they let me stay inside for 13 Hours?
3. and most important: is the airport safe?

Please help!
Did it come up in mind to take a ride to one of the mkomos hakdoishim in that area?. I've done this in the past i had a wonderful experience.
Title: Re: Moscow Airport
Post by: Nitantnel on May 10, 2011, 01:00:23 PM
Hi Nitanel,

What time of day/night will you be there? Do you have Israeli citizenship? (then you would not need a visa) In how long are you flying? From when I last looked into this, it should not be so much for a one day - to 30 day, visa. Where were you thinking of getting the visa?

I lived in Moscow for a few years and I would suggest going in to the city maybe. I can give you places,  ppl etc. There is a cheap, possibly free based on airline carrier, train that takes you into Moscow. I can maybe get you a great driver for cheap, with a nice car.

What else? It is a nice airport. Avoid Sheremetyevo 1 at all cost, so they say. It is notorious, rated the worst airport in the world.

All the best!
I will be there from 8:50PM until 10:40 AM, I do not have Israeli citizenship, and I am flying at the end of June. Visas are expensive: 165 USD per person. I'd rather bring a book and relax/sleep in the lounge, than face the visa/taxi/hotel costs. (and yes, my wife agreed to this!)
Did it come up in mind to take a ride to one of the mkomos hakdoishim in that area?. I've done this in the past i had a wonderful experience.
It would be lovely to tour around a bit, but like I said, I need a visa and at this point, I will also need to change my Trans-air ticket - don't know how much they will charge for that.
Title: Re: Moscow Airport
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 11, 2011, 05:14:49 PM
I'll be there in a week and a half, I can check out the lounge for you. will it be *A??
Title: Re: Moscow Airport
Post by: Nitantnel on May 13, 2011, 11:40:29 AM
Excuse my ignorance, what exactly is A*?
I am looking to get in to the nicest place for the best price.
Title: Re: Which/How Many Airports Have You Been To?
Post by: Nitantnel on June 10, 2011, 04:09:09 PM
Since it seams like you guys have loads of experience, I was wondering if one of you can help me out here.

I will be in DME for 16 hours as they won't let me free without a visa. Any suggestions in getting into lounges for a good price or even getting out of the airport?

Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 12, 2011, 10:35:31 AM
No chance of leaving airport without visa!! I was there a few weeks ago and when I entered the lufthansa lounge there were lots of people surrounding the reception so I didn't even bother showing my ticket.. I doubt that will repeat itself though
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 12, 2011, 10:41:36 AM
No chance of leaving airport without visa!! I was there a few weeks ago and when I entered the lufthansa lounge there were lots of people surrounding the reception so I didn't even bother showing my ticket.. I doubt that will repeat itself though

So you snuck into the lounge?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 12, 2011, 07:53:34 PM
I did just so I would have to wait by reception but I was eligible to enter anyway (the person with me wasn't...)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shmuelb on June 18, 2011, 05:13:06 PM
There are kem'at no mekomos hakedoshim in Moscow or nearby, if you are thinking of cemeteries etc. (in the Malakhovka beis hakvaros is Rav Dubin of Riga and the "Chaya Olam Nata") but there are many live mekomos hakdoshim in Moscow. There are very nice Kehillos there, Chabad and others, Yeshivas, Kollelim etc. Make sure to check out the restaurant on the top floor of Bolshoi Bronnaya Synagogue, of Rav Yitzchak Kogan.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on January 10, 2012, 03:03:06 PM
Heads Up: I live in Uman most of the year - Lived in Moscow for 2 years.

PM me if you have any questions.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on August 13, 2012, 09:38:44 PM
hi i would like to know what kind of mile would be the best to use going to uman ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shmuelb on August 14, 2012, 05:36:41 AM
Heads Up: I live in Uman most of the year - Lived in Moscow for 2 years.

PM me if you have any questions.

Programs: Photoshop

Are you the producer of the flyer with photoshopped pics of Gedolim? I saw one yesterday in Yerushalayim...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 27, 2012, 05:24:56 PM
Are you the producer of the flyer with photoshopped pics of Gedolim? I saw one yesterday in Yerushalayim...
Not sure what you are referring to.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shmuelb on August 28, 2012, 08:35:13 AM
Well, if it was you, you would know what I am talking about.

Some ____ from the"talmidim" of the Saba made stickers/flyers against Gedolei Yisroel "mefursamim shel she...". They used photoshop...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on October 22, 2012, 06:17:41 PM
I am not a breslover. I don't identify with the Na-Nach movement.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shmuelb on October 23, 2012, 03:49:48 AM
I am not a breslover. I don't identify with the Na-Nach movement.
Sorry.  :-[
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on December 03, 2012, 05:32:59 PM
Anyone going to aditch for the alter rebbes yahrtzeit?
Any tips?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on December 12, 2012, 06:31:14 AM
Was anyone here ever by the alter rebbe's kever? Especially with all the points going around it shouldn't be such a big deal!!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 28, 2012, 12:01:37 AM
Was anyone here ever by the alter rebbe's kever? Especially with all the points going around it shouldn't be such a big deal!!

There is a group going there for chof daled teves on tuesday. http://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=23132&hl=groner. Any tips on drivers/taxis to go to nezhin, haditch, barditchev and medzibush, if i have a few days in kiev? Looking for something very affordable. Thanks.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 28, 2012, 12:24:11 AM
How can I find out if SVO will allow that?
I know this is an old post but here is a link to TIMATIC (http://www.skyteam.com/en/your-trip/Services/Visa-and-Health/)

Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 28, 2012, 12:25:28 AM
In some countries that require visas, they allow for a 24-48 hour exception in certain cities (PVG is one)
Remember this is only for onward travel, if you're going back to where you came from in 24 hours they won't let you in.

I hear the Chinese immigration have become very strict lately.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 28, 2012, 12:27:51 AM
I know this is an old post but here is a link to TIMATIC (http://www.skyteam.com/en/your-trip/Services/Visa-and-Health/)

Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on December 29, 2012, 03:13:50 PM
Remember this is only for onward travel, if you're going back to where you came from in 24 hours they won't let you in.

I hear the Chinese immigration have become very strict lately.

Thanks for the post.

I will be travelling to lithuania soon and accroding to the link I need:

-Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
  cover their stay and documents required for their next
  destination.

- Vistors are required to hold health and travel insurance to
  cover for any medical expenses.

Is this enforced? how do I prove the above?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on December 29, 2012, 03:17:57 PM
There is a group going there for chof daled teves on tuesday. http://collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=23132&hl=groner. Any tips on drivers/taxis to go to nezhin, haditch, barditchev and medzibush, if i have a few days in kiev? Looking for something very affordable. Thanks.


Had I know about this group arriving on tuesday, I would have made it a point to be in the ukraine earlier.

A taxi to Haditch from kiev supposedley costs $150,
When will you be in kiev, because there will be a group bus ging to haditch thursday.
Would you know how much it should cost for a place to sleep in haditch?
Would you know how far any of the above mentioned places or lubavitch and liozna are from haditch?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on December 29, 2012, 03:25:25 PM
Is there anything to do/see in kiev for about 7hrs?
Is it safe for jewish looking people?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 29, 2012, 04:18:52 PM
Is there anything to do/see in kiev for about 7hrs?
Is it safe for jewish looking people?

you can pay respects at babi yar
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 29, 2012, 04:31:36 PM
you can pay respects at babi yar

+1

There is also a Jewish cemetery there, though it escapes my mind at this exact instant who is buried there. I'll have to dredge up my pics from almost 5 years ago...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 29, 2012, 04:38:26 PM
thats news to me
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 29, 2012, 06:34:42 PM

Had I know about this group arriving on tuesday, I would have made it a point to be in the ukraine earlier.

A taxi to Haditch from kiev supposedley costs $150,
When will you be in kiev, because there will be a group bus ging to haditch thursday.
Would you know how much it should cost for a place to sleep in haditch?
Would you know how far any of the above mentioned places or lubavitch and liozna are from haditch?


Might be going to Kiev in a few months, not this weekend. For sleeping there is a new guest-house at the burial site of the Alter Rebbe, but dunno how many people will be there this weekend. Lubavitch and Liozna are both about 10 hour drive away, but are not in Ukraine. So if u are a US citizen u will need to pay for a visa to go there.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on January 02, 2013, 03:44:35 PM
Niezhin (mittler rebbe) 2 hrs from Kiev
Haditch (alter rebbe) 3.5 hrs ....
Fastiv (Malach) 1.2 hrs... opposit direction of previous kevorim
Uman 3 hrs from....
Berditchev 3.5 from.....
Vilednk 4.1 hrs from....
More later.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 02, 2013, 04:31:23 PM
theres a book on ukraine that might help you, put out by ohalei tzaddikim
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 02, 2013, 07:23:27 PM
theres a book on ukraine that might help you, put out by ohalei tzaddikim

Thanks, very informative site.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 02, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
Thanks for the post.

I will be travelling to lithuania soon and accroding to the link I need:

-Visitors are required to hold proof of sufficient funds to
  cover their stay and documents required for their next
  destination.

- Vistors are required to hold health and travel insurance to
  cover for any medical expenses.

Is this enforced? how do I prove the above?
I've never seen it enforced, but I've heard about it.

Dress like you can afford it or bring a few hundred bucks.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on January 08, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
Shame I just noticed the recent action in this thread... If there is anyone still looking for info about Ukraine feel free to PM me. (I live here)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 09, 2013, 02:48:20 AM
(I live here)
sorry to hear that...  :)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 09, 2013, 10:46:47 AM
Is there anything to do/see in kiev for about 7hrs?
Is it safe for jewish looking people?


Great restaurant King David behind the brodsky synagogue!! Actually ate there twice in the past month and was superb! highly recommended! (they had some great desserts, great lambchops, some great half-raw tuna dish...)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on January 09, 2013, 03:41:12 PM
Great restaurant King David behind the brodsky synagogue!! Actually ate there twice in the past month and was superb! highly recommended! (they had some great desserts, great lambchops, some great half-raw tuna dish...)

I ate there a few days ago and was very un-impressed. Besides for the sky high price and miniscule amount of food they gave, the food itself was, well....not so great.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on January 12, 2013, 06:40:40 PM
Besides for King David there is also an other restauraunt, alot cheaper, comparable food to King David excluding ambiance and presentation, it's inside the Chabad shul downstiars located at 13 Shuta Rustaveli or around the corner from King David.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 13, 2013, 02:21:28 AM
I ate there a few days ago and was very un-impressed. Besides for the sky high price and miniscule amount of food they gave, the food itself was, well....not so great.

I guess you can argue about taste...

I was there with a group of 7 ppl who don't keep kosher, all upper class and they were very happy with food... Said as good as the better non kosher places in town.. Can't argue that's its expensive, we paid about $130 a head but had a nice 3 course meal plus dessert..

Great soup, great fresh tuna dish, best tasting lamb chops I ever had, an wonderful cream filled pastries..
Don't order American/Israel foods, order Russian or kavkazi (as that's where the cooks are from)

There were some ministers there who seemed to also be enjoying their meal

Don't know about other places
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 13, 2013, 02:24:26 AM
Can't argue that's its expensive, we paid about $130 a head but had a nice 3 course meal plus dessert..

Whoa, never knew russian's had such big hasagois..
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 13, 2013, 05:46:04 AM

I was there with a group of 7 ppl who don't keep kosher, all upper class and they were very happy with food... Said as good as the better non kosher places in town..
kiev is not exactly known for their haute cuisine...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on January 13, 2013, 06:08:29 AM
kiev is not exactly known for their haute cuisine...

Well, if you're looking for that go to Moskow.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 13, 2013, 02:01:53 PM
Whoa, never knew russian's had such big hasagois..

You would be surprised but those that have hasogos, have much bigger ones than americans...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on January 13, 2013, 02:42:36 PM
You would be surprised but those that have hasogos, have much bigger ones than americans...

Did they let you pay with CC or did they do the old trick of claiming the machine was broken?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 13, 2013, 03:15:10 PM
i dont recall (i didn't pay ;-)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 13, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
Moscow has some great eats...
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: WhyAich on January 13, 2013, 03:42:40 PM
Whoa, never knew russian's had such big hasagois..
Huh? They do :)

Bolshoi Brunoi (in the summer has a nice place to eat outside, dunno what they do in the winter)

Also marina Russia has a nice place. But yes all places are probably a little pricey
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: L'Chaim on January 13, 2013, 04:49:10 PM
Moscow has some great eats...
Well, if you're looking for that go to Moskow.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on January 14, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
Moscow has some great eats...
Havn't been in 10 years. When I was living there, there were only 3 options. Marina Roscha (Crappy pizza), Archipova (Cheap, slow service) and that retartedly overpriced place in GUM.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on January 22, 2013, 10:30:07 PM
Anybody have experience with the lounge in Kiev airport how to get in will united pass work?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on January 23, 2013, 08:22:02 AM
Anybody have experience with the lounge in Kiev airport how to get in will united pass work?

Which Terminal? Or which airline are you flying?

United works for United not in Kiev.

Priority pass will get you into the lounge.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on January 23, 2013, 01:26:12 PM
Ditto to above, Priority Pass works. But a 10$ tip can get you in with a united pass, First show the card, if they reject it put a 10$ bill underneath and give it back. Make sure to keep it hidden (so you don't get the recipient in trouble)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on January 23, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
Ditto to above, Priority Pass works. But a 10$ tip can get you in with a united pass, First show the card, if they reject it put a 10$ bill underneath and give it back. Make sure to keep it hidden (so you don't get the recipient in trouble)

Seems like a lot. $10 would work for border control or getting stopped by cop. Would probably need less for the lounge.

BTW the lounge in terminal D is new and very nice, But don't expect to find food or drinks there for free. This is the Ukraine. A drink in the lounge goes for 1.50 euro. The lounge in Terminal A just joined Priority pass, so don't know.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on January 23, 2013, 09:11:05 PM
Seems like a lot. $10 would work for border control or getting stopped by cop. Would probably need less for the lounge.

BTW the lounge in terminal D is new and very nice, But don't expect to find food or drinks there for free. This is the Ukraine. A drink in the lounge goes for 1.50 euro. The lounge in Terminal A just joined Priority pass, so don't know.
I'm generally generous because i want them to remember me  8)

But i just use my priority card anyway
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 19, 2013, 08:11:28 AM
Seems like a lot. $10 would work for border control or getting stopped by cop. Would probably need less for the lounge.

BTW the lounge in terminal D is new and very nice, But don't expect to find food or drinks there for free. This is the Ukraine. A drink in the lounge goes for 1.50 euro. The lounge in Terminal A just joined Priority pass, so don't know.
Beg to differ, Was there yesterday Every drink including a delicious Latte was on the house, They also offered Salads, Sandwiches, Yogurt, Muffins & Cookies. (looked like crap)
Also pretty decent Showers..
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on February 23, 2013, 03:45:54 PM
Beg to differ, Was there yesterday Every drink including a delicious Latte was on the house, They also offered Salads, Sandwiches, Yogurt, Muffins & Cookies. (looked like crap)
Also pretty decent Showers..

Dunno, when i was there recently, everything costed $. I have to agree though, that showers are nice and new,  although when I used them the water was at best lukewarm.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 24, 2013, 06:44:26 AM
Dunno, when i was there recently, everything costed $. I have to agree though, that showers are nice and new,  although when I used them the water was at best lukewarm.
Maybe it was free for me because i entered with a Priority Pass?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ganizzy on April 15, 2013, 10:15:55 PM
Ukraine trip report

went with my husband and 3 kids to spend pesach with family (shluchim in 2 cities there)

originally had wanted to use points and was able to find availability for 60,000 on united but i didnt have 300,000 points and not enough time to get them.

so i bought tickets figuring i would sell my miles that are in a range of programs. tickets from lax to kiev were about $1100 and to Kharkov about $1400. ended up getting someone in Argentina to purchase for me and it brought the cost to $4000 for the 5 tickets on United.

we had 9 pieces of luggage but the agent at first class check in was great! I have the United club card and she checked in 4 pcs for me and one child and then 5 pcs for my husband and 2 kids. she also marked them as priority.
had a bit of time to go to the lounge, but just enough to grab a fruit and a soda.

had 2 stopovers, landed in Kiev about 2 pm on wed. my brother in law had arranged a driver for us and he met us at the airport.
we made a stop in Zhitomer (about 2 1/2 hrs) to get food and for my husband to go to mikvah. we didnt get food but we still had leftover sandwiches and tradition soups.

The driving in Ukraine is like nothing else i experienced except maybe a bad roller coaster ride. at this season - at the end of winter, after all the snow and ice, the roads are full of pot holes. the drivers slow down and start swerving all over the road, doesnt matter which lane. Really shows the truth in the joke: how do u know if a russian driver is drunk? if he is driving straight.
the only roads that are decent are the ones near business centers like near kiev and Kharkov but otherwise....

from there we went to Berdichev (one hour). our driver was very experienced knew where he was going and called all the people before we even got there to unlock the doors to the kevarim

what nice is all the places were well taken care of with adjoining buildings with shuls, (decent!) bathrooms and some also had mikvaos. also there is a Ohel around each of the Tzaddikims Kevarim.

after Berditchev we went to Mezibuz to the Baal Shem Tov (about 3 hours)
we got there about 11 pm and stayed the night there. they gave us a 3 bedroom "suite" as well as a different room for our driver. For Ukraine the accommodations were pretty good. they provided us with a small supper and we all crashed for the night.
the next morning my husband went to the Mikvah there, we davened at the kever and then we drove about 10-15 minuted to the Baal Shem Tovs shul. it looks like it is all authentic from back then, with wooden benches and chairs....

from there we drove to Anipoli (2 1/2 - 3 hours) to the Bais Hachaim of the Maggid of Mezeritch and R' Zushe of Anipoli. there was no running water then but the next door neighbor kindly brought us water to wash our hands (and im sure to get a nice american tip)
since from the entrance to the bais hachaim to the ohel there are kevarim, there is no path built so we had to balance through the snow and mud to get to the ohel.

from there we drove about 7 hours to nezhin to the Mitteler Rebbe.

after that we drove another 3 hours to get to our destination for the first days
we paid about $800 for the 36 hours he was with us

there was 4 days of constant snowfall and the kids had a blast playing in the snow. for the adults - not so exciting. the city closed down and the bochurim on merkos shlichus almost didnt make it to their cities. bh by the second days the weather was very nice and by the end of pesach all the snow had melted

chol hamoed we took a mashrutka - a shuttle to Kharkov. about a 3 hr drive. (we had wanted to take a train for the experience but the timing didnt work out.

the main shul there is beautiful with a very high dome ceiling.
during chol hamoed we went to a zoo owned by a Jewish Gvir. (He also had bought and donated a huge silver menorah to the shul. its about 5 feet high)
we were going to take the kids to an amusement park or an indoor play place but with jetlagged late mornings that didnt happen and we just went to the local park for the kids to run around for a bit.
was an experience to pay a few griven to use the bathroom. collect your few pieces of toilet paper and then head to the stalls. the doors only reached up to mid chest but that bec there wasnt any toilet seats. just holes ur supposed to squat over.

my kids enjoyed buying some toys and stuff at the bazaar though there wasnt any major discounts or anything. prices were like in america.

after pesach we headed back to my brother in law in Sumy, stopping in Haditch (about 3 hr drive from Kharkov and then 2 hrs to Sumy)
in Haditch they built a beautiful new shul and mikvah.

In sumy we went to the Bazaar which was quite an experience, with all the babushkas selling their individuals bottles of milk and individual dead cleaned chickens and rabbits.
u could choose ur fish as they were swimming around in buckets (though not too much swimming bec they were quite full buckets and the fish were half dead)

sunday morning we left 6 am to head to kiev. it took us 5 hours. i tried going to the lounge but they told me my united card wouldnt get us in we would have to be at least * alliance gold bec it was a lufthansa lounge (i hadnt read about the $10 tip trick so i didnt try it)
however we found a room that said mothers and children that was empty so we hung out there. there was a sink and oven (though no pots or anything) a pack and play, dresser, couches and tables and chair. my husband got to daven there in private. my sister in law told me that in the moscow airport they have a mother and baby "lounge" they have toys for the kids and beds. very convenient bec most connections to kharkov is a 10 hr wait

our 2 stopovers were pretty tight with rushing from plane to plane so no chance to catch any other lounges.

and then it was home sweet home and lots of jet lag

not sure how to post pictures
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 16, 2013, 12:57:26 AM
Ukraine trip report

went with my husband and 3 kids to spend pesach with family (shluchim in 2 cities there)

originally had wanted to use points and was able to find availability for 60,000 on united but i didnt have 300,000 points and not enough time to get them.

so i bought tickets figuring i would sell my miles that are in a range of programs. tickets from lax to kiev were about $1100 and to Kharkov about $1400. ended up getting someone in Argentina to purchase for me and it brought the cost to $4000 for the 5 tickets on United.

we had 9 pieces of luggage but the agent at first class check in was great! I have the United club card and she checked in 4 pcs for me and one child and then 5 pcs for my husband and 2 kids. she also marked them as priority.
had a bit of time to go to the lounge, but just enough to grab a fruit and a soda.

had 2 stopovers, landed in Kiev about 2 pm on wed. my brother in law had arranged a driver for us and he met us at the airport.
we made a stop in Zhitomer (about 2 1/2 hrs) to get food and for my husband to go to mikvah. we didnt get food but we still had leftover sandwiches and tradition soups.

The driving in Ukraine is like nothing else i experienced except maybe a bad roller coaster ride. at this season - at the end of winter, after all the snow and ice, the roads are full of pot holes. the drivers slow down and start swerving all over the road, doesnt matter which lane. Really shows the truth in the joke: how do u know if a russian driver is drunk? if he is driving straight.
the only roads that are decent are the ones near business centers like near kiev and Kharkov but otherwise....

from there we went to Berdichev (one hour). our driver was very experienced knew where he was going and called all the people before we even got there to unlock the doors to the kevarim

what nice is all the places were well taken care of with adjoining buildings with shuls, (decent!) bathrooms and some also had mikvaos. also there is a Ohel around each of the Tzaddikims Kevarim.

after Berditchev we went to Mezibuz to the Baal Shem Tov (about 3 hours)
we got there about 11 pm and stayed the night there. they gave us a 3 bedroom "suite" as well as a different room for our driver. For Ukraine the accommodations were pretty good. they provided us with a small supper and we all crashed for the night.
the next morning my husband went to the Mikvah there, we davened at the kever and then we drove about 10-15 minuted to the Baal Shem Tovs shul. it looks like it is all authentic from back then, with wooden benches and chairs....

from there we drove to Anipoli (2 1/2 - 3 hours) to the Bais Hachaim of the Maggid of Mezeritch and R' Zushe of Anipoli. there was no running water then but the next door neighbor kindly brought us water to wash our hands (and im sure to get a nice american tip)
since from the entrance to the bais hachaim to the ohel there are kevarim, there is no path built so we had to balance through the snow and mud to get to the ohel.

from there we drove about 7 hours to nezhin to the Mitteler Rebbe.

after that we drove another 3 hours to get to our destination for the first days
we paid about $800 for the 36 hours he was with us

there was 4 days of constant snowfall and the kids had a blast playing in the snow. for the adults - not so exciting. the city closed down and the bochurim on merkos shlichus almost didnt make it to their cities. bh by the second days the weather was very nice and by the end of pesach all the snow had melted

chol hamoed we took a mashrutka - a shuttle to Kharkov. about a 3 hr drive. (we had wanted to take a train for the experience but the timing didnt work out.

the main shul there is beautiful with a very high dome ceiling.
during chol hamoed we went to a zoo owned by a Jewish Gvir. (He also had bought and donated a huge silver menorah to the shul. its about 5 feet high)
we were going to take the kids to an amusement park or an indoor play place but with jetlagged late mornings that didnt happen and we just went to the local park for the kids to run around for a bit.
was an experience to pay a few griven to use the bathroom. collect your few pieces of toilet paper and then head to the stalls. the doors only reached up to mid chest but that bec there wasnt any toilet seats. just holes ur supposed to squat over.

my kids enjoyed buying some toys and stuff at the bazaar though there wasnt any major discounts or anything. prices were like in america.

after pesach we headed back to my brother in law in Sumy, stopping in Haditch (about 3 hr drive from Kharkov and then 2 hrs to Sumy)
in Haditch they built a beautiful new shul and mikvah.

In sumy we went to the Bazaar which was quite an experience, with all the babushkas selling their individuals bottles of milk and individual dead cleaned chickens and rabbits.
u could choose ur fish as they were swimming around in buckets (though not too much swimming bec they were quite full buckets and the fish were half dead)

sunday morning we left 6 am to head to kiev. it took us 5 hours. i tried going to the lounge but they told me my united card wouldnt get us in we would have to be at least * alliance gold bec it was a lufthansa lounge (i hadnt read about the $10 tip trick so i didnt try it)
however we found a room that said mothers and children that was empty so we hung out there. there was a sink and oven (though no pots or anything) a pack and play, dresser, couches and tables and chair. my husband got to daven there in private. my sister in law told me that in the moscow airport they have a mother and baby "lounge" they have toys for the kids and beds. very convenient bec most connections to kharkov is a 10 hr wait

our 2 stopovers were pretty tight with rushing from plane to plane so no chance to catch any other lounges.

and then it was home sweet home and lots of jet lag

not sure how to post pictures
Nice TR, thanks!!

BTW I had a meal with the rabbi M and family in Kharkov, VERY nice people...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on July 14, 2013, 04:18:30 PM
Which points is the best to use nyc to kbp business?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Shreknit on July 14, 2013, 04:51:04 PM
Nice trip report just read it now how come you didn't stop in uman at Rebbe Nachman of Breslov only a few hours from the Bal Shem Tov and amazing stories about miracles after davening there!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on July 14, 2013, 07:10:30 PM
Which points is the best to use nyc to kbp business?
AFAIK, BA via LHR (high airport fees) is decent timewise
Otherwise lufthansa seems the  best way to get there with mileage.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on July 14, 2013, 10:33:05 PM
Does American express points transfer to miles  and more ?  Do u by any chance know how many points  and how much os the fees and tax
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on July 15, 2013, 09:44:47 AM
Nice trip report just read it now how come you didn't stop in uman at Rebbe Nachman of Breslov only a few hours from the Bal Shem Tov and amazing stories about miracles after davening there!

A bit more than that...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on July 15, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
A bit more than that...
AFAIK. its 250km which should take 3.5 hours but takes closer to 4 hours. (in the winter it can take up to 6 depending on conditions & driver)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on August 13, 2013, 12:16:08 PM
Which points is the best to use nyc to kbp business with the least tax and fees ?

can someone find me something available . NYC to kbp Sep 02 coming back Sep 08 KBP - NYC

THANKS
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on September 09, 2013, 03:37:53 AM
just read  through tgis thread.

The  only food  place in kiev that was mentioned,  is  king David which seems to be on the pricey side.

A Google search brings up "bakerman".  Anyone familiar with them?
The "kashrus" page is in russian and they seem to serve pizza and meat.  :-\
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on September 09, 2013, 04:17:12 AM
just read  through tgis thread.

The  only food  place in kiev that was mentioned,  is  king David which seems to be on the pricey side.

A Google search brings up "bakerman".  Anyone familiar with them?
The "kashrus" page is in russian and they seem to serve pizza and meat.  :-\
Will probably be at King David in an hour or so for lunch, hope they are open.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on September 09, 2013, 04:29:26 AM
Will probably be at King David in an hour or so for lunch, hope they are open.
Okay. Please keep us posted with their hours of operation. Thanx
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on September 09, 2013, 04:41:35 AM
Okay. Please keep us posted with their hours of operation. Thanx
P.S. If you are looking for something less pricey but decent - check out the cafe on the other side (under the shul)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver2000 on September 09, 2013, 05:12:02 AM
P.S. If you are looking for something less pricey but decent - check out the cafe on the other side (under the shul)
Do you know the name of the place? Or phone number/website?
(Want to check what their hours are)

Thanx
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: DXD on December 10, 2013, 12:32:50 AM
Trip Report - St. Petersburg & Moscow - June 2013

Part 1 - St. Petersburg:

One of the most beautiful cities in the world - and I still can't believe that it's not on Westerners' radar as it should be. We went during White Nights - when insomnia rules, boat cruises don't leave until 12:30 am, fireworks at 2 am, crowds in the streets all night, etc. Still, felt very safe.

White Nights is also a crazy expensive time to be in St Petersburg (even more than the crazy expensive usual). However, the Marriott Pushin:

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ledgr-courtyard-st-petersburg-center-west-pushkin-hotel/

at 15k Marriott Points + 5th night free was a steal! The hotel was $500-$800 per night during the time we were there. It was also walking distance to the main synagogue of the city, a kosher restaurant and 40 min or so walk to the center of city (25 min to the 'edge of the center')

Food - Golden Cafe:

http://goldencafe.ru/index.html

I really loved it - it was a mix of Russia / Ashkenazi and Georgian cuisine. The lady who ran it was very nice. It certainly helps that I speak Russian (as it does everywhere else in Russia). Also reasonably priced. Not all items on the menu were available, but everything we had was great.

http://jewishsaintpetersburg.com/kosher/lehaim/

LeChaim is good, a little pricey though. It's inside the Choral Synagogue. The food is good - service a little slow.

Shabbat - we pre-ordered food at LeChaim. Came out to about $35 / per person / meal including vodka, wine, lots of fish etc. The dinner was a little better than lunch, but it was all really good.

Overall city - if you have a chance to go for White Nights (late June) - by all means do so. There is more than enough kosher food to get by and the city, its palaces and scenery is incredible.

Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on December 10, 2013, 08:25:19 PM
Trip Report - St. Petersburg & Moscow - June 2013

Part 1 - St. Petersburg:

One of the most beautiful cities in the world - and I still can't believe that it's not on Westerners' radar as it should be. We went during White Nights - when insomnia rules, boat cruises don't leave until 12:30 am, fireworks at 2 am, crowds in the streets all night, etc. Still, felt very safe.

White Nights is also a crazy expensive time to be in St Petersburg (even more than the crazy expensive usual). However, the Marriott Pushin:

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/ledgr-courtyard-st-petersburg-center-west-pushkin-hotel/

at 15k Marriott Points + 5th night free was a steal! The hotel was $500-$800 per night during the time we were there. It was also walking distance to the main synagogue of the city, a kosher restaurant and 40 min or so walk to the center of city (25 min to the 'edge of the center')

Food - Golden Cafe:

http://goldencafe.ru/index.html

I really loved it - it was a mix of Russia / Ashkenazi and Georgian cuisine. The lady who ran it was very nice. It certainly helps that I speak Russian (as it does everywhere else in Russia). Also reasonably priced. Not all items on the menu were available, but everything we had was great.

http://jewishsaintpetersburg.com/kosher/lehaim/

LeChaim is good, a little pricey though. It's inside the Choral Synagogue. The food is good - service a little slow.

Shabbat - we pre-ordered food at LeChaim. Came out to about $35 / per person / meal including vodka, wine, lots of fish etc. The dinner was a little better than lunch, but it was all really good.

Overall city - if you have a chance to go for White Nights (late June) - by all means do so. There is more than enough kosher food to get by and the city, its palaces and scenery is incredible.
can you elaborate more on the stuff you did there.

thanks for the TR
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shmuelb on December 11, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
When you get off the vodka, can you write about Moscow too?  :)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: DXD on December 12, 2013, 11:21:39 PM
can you elaborate more on the stuff you did there.

thanks for the TR

Sure:

1. I highly encourage those traveling to St. Petersburg to do during White Nights (end of June)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Nights_Festival

2. Just walk around the city - architecture, palaces, rivers, canals. It was built to be an imperial city and all the best of 18th + 19th century Europe was imported there.

Key destinations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermitage_Museum - rivals the Louvre in scale and substance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nevskiy_Prospect - key thoroughfare of St Petersburg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterhof_Palace - some of the most beautiful fountains / palaces...ever. About a 30 min boat ride (boats leave from the Neva side of the Hermitage)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsarskoye_Selo - a suburban palace complex with a dazzling all-amber room
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letniy_Sad - imperial garden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_and_Paul_Fortress - a fortress & prison complex (Alter Rebbe was imprisoned there)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_Square - the heart of the city
http://www.saint-petersburg.com/monuments/alexander-pushkin/ - a beautiful square surrounded by theatres + museums.

Also - take a Neva river cruise, a rivers and canals cruise. If you go during White nights - you will want to take the ones that leave after midnight. Ballet / Opera are a great option for those interested.

Feel free to PM me if you have questions.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: DXD on December 12, 2013, 11:36:55 PM
When you get off the vodka, can you write about Moscow too?  :)

Yea...ok.

Moscow is quite different than St. Petersburg. While the latter is a living outdoor museum, Moscow is really a rapidly growing (it's already really huge!) boomtown fueled by oil & government.

Highlights of Moscow: Red Square + Kremlin. Sparrow Hills is a nice view of the city. You really don't get the quaint 19th century architecture of St Petersburg, rather it is very much in your face.

Pushkin museum is good (but not great) - after St Petersburg it's quite underwhelming. 2-3 days in Moscow is more than enough.

However, Moscow does have a fairly impressive Jewish / kosher infrastructure. We ate at Rimon, inside one of the two main synagogues of the city. It was excellent

http://shamash.com/kosher/search.php?Recno=00914&Comm=two

It's located inside the Choral Synagogue, 10 min walk from Red Square and worth a visit in itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Choral_Synagogue

I was impressed by the Jewish museum. Inside of it is a kosher version of the desert chain 'Shokoladnitsa'. May be the best cakes I have EVER eaten.
http://www.mievr.ru/?lang=ENG

Lots of other kosher options in Moscow, but we did not get a chance to try more.

Feel free to PM me with questions.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: chff on December 13, 2013, 06:53:14 AM
Anyone been in SIP?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: DXD on December 13, 2013, 10:05:45 AM
Anyone been in SIP?

SIP?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: boropark123 on December 16, 2013, 05:59:13 PM
Anyone know of a car rental that would let me rent in poland and enter ukraine just for the day
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: rg on March 27, 2014, 02:12:39 PM
my son and 50 bochrim are going for first days pesach  to help  chluchim in russia and ukraine.
They are flying with aeroflot to moscow but have no visa to enter russia.
They have a 9 hour stop over in airport.
Does anyone know if United has a lounge there?
Any other lounges? I have Ink cards that I can get him on.
 Does that give him free access to lounge in airport ?
thanks so much
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 27, 2014, 02:15:30 PM
my son and 50 bochrim are going for first days pesach  to help  chluchim in russia and ukraine.
They are flying with aeroflot to moscow but have no visa to enter russia.
They have a 9 hour stop over in airport.
Does anyone know if United has a lounge there?
Any other lounges? I have Ink cards that I can get him on.
 Does that give him free access to lounge in airport ?
thanks so much


United has no lounge there, Perhaps with Ink/PP you could him in to something.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 02:20:56 PM
50 lubavitch bochurim might trigger the 4 hour minimum to be enforced for the first time in history
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: robbie on March 27, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
my son and 50 bochrim are going for first days pesach  to help  chluchim in russia and ukraine.
They are flying with aeroflot to moscow but have no visa to enter russia.
They have a 9 hour stop over in airport.
Does anyone know if United has a lounge there?
Any other lounges? I have Ink cards that I can get him on.
 Does that give him free access to lounge in airport ?
thanks so much


He should look into getting a visa, may cost like 150 bucks but for a 9 hour stopover may be worth it.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: rg on March 27, 2014, 03:47:48 PM
Thanks everybody for your help.
not all have the same stopover time.
They are all departing from there to different cities.
my  lubavitshe son is going to ponivez for pesach ;D ( the city)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: nbnuti on March 27, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
Just wondering my friend has a flight to Moscow next week. Was the Liquid ban removed already or still in effect from the Olympics???
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 06:37:14 PM
my son and 50 bochrim are going for first days pesach  to help  chluchim in russia and ukraine.
They are flying with aeroflot to moscow but have no visa to enter russia.
They have a 9 hour stop over in airport.
Does anyone know if United has a lounge there?
Any other lounges? I have Ink cards that I can get him on.
 Does that give him free access to lounge in airport ?
thanks so much


Very simple.
Bochurim that going to Russia thy should have a visa since u need the visa for Russia no matter in which city you are.
Bochurim that going to ukriane , which airport thy stop over ? some times thy give issues in the lounge if you not biz class traveler even with card
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 27, 2014, 06:40:51 PM
Bochurim that going to ukriane , which airport thy stop over ?

He wrote aeroflot, so that is SVO.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: BISPRO on March 27, 2014, 06:46:00 PM
He wrote aeroflot, so that is SVO.

i left my job as a travel agent 5 years ago...

regarding the lounge, i won't trust the airline lounges, go with priority pass.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: robbie on March 28, 2014, 01:03:55 AM
my son and 50 bochrim are going for first days pesach  to help  chluchim in russia and ukraine.
They are flying with aeroflot to moscow but have no visa to enter russia.
They have a 9 hour stop over in airport.
Does anyone know if United has a lounge there?
Any other lounges? I have Ink cards that I can get him on.
 Does that give him free access to lounge in airport ?
thanks so much

Just btw if your son happens to have a Israeli passport he can go to Moscow for free for those 9 hours
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: NOOCH on April 07, 2014, 08:38:20 PM
i left my job as a travel agent 5 years ago...

regarding the lounge, i won't trust the airline lounges, go with priority pass.
where can i get a priority pass cert from?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 08, 2014, 02:40:26 PM
where can i get a priority pass cert from?


Comes with the chase ink cards collection.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: chff on April 14, 2014, 06:04:59 PM
regarding the lounge, i won't trust the airline lounges, go with priority pass.

Ummm? This post is so I don't want to say
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: BISPRO on April 30, 2014, 01:20:00 PM
where can i get a priority pass cert from?

Amex Plat
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: mn on May 10, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
i have a stop over in moscow too - i have amex plat(not active but didn't expire yet), citi executive, and chase ink cards - which card should i use to access the lounge - and what's the name of the lounge?
thanks
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: mn on August 06, 2014, 06:15:30 AM
i have a stop over in moscow too - i have amex plat(not active but didn't expire yet), citi executive, and chase ink cards - which card should i use to access the lounge - and what's the name of the lounge?
thanks

anyone?
leaving today

thanks
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on August 06, 2014, 11:04:54 AM
i have a stop over in moscow too - i have amex plat(not active but didn't expire yet), citi executive, and chase ink cards - which card should i use to access the lounge - and what's the name of the lounge?
thanks
which airport in Moscow is the stopover?
Lounge club gives you access in SVO
Priority Pass gives you access SVO & DME
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moka on September 07, 2014, 07:37:29 PM
Anyone been to or going to Uman for rosh hashana?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: sam28 on September 07, 2014, 09:07:39 PM
I have been there and I am going this year .
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Lou Bob on September 07, 2014, 11:23:27 PM
Anyone been to or going to Uman for rosh hashana?
went last year.
Very possibly going back.
Have any questions?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moka on September 08, 2014, 02:13:32 AM
Have any questions?
whats the best place to find out all the info regarding making transportation, sleeping and food arrangements?
Are there any ashkenaz type of minyanim on rosh hashana besides for the kloyz?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 08, 2014, 03:30:17 AM
whats the best place to find out all the info regarding making transportation, sleeping and food arrangements?
Are there any ashkenaz type of minyanim on rosh hashana besides for the kloyz?

This might help you - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1170.0.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moka on September 08, 2014, 09:49:15 AM
This might help you - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1170.0.
that's 5 yrs old. I would imagine things have changes and are more efficient
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: mlomni on September 08, 2014, 10:12:31 AM
PM Suave, I know he used to be involved with all that a few years ago.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 18, 2014, 08:38:35 AM
When doing an airport Change in Russia do I need a visa and can that one be done in the airport?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: boropark123 on December 18, 2014, 10:44:12 AM

When doing an airport Change in Russia do I need a visa and can that one be done in the airport?
If you're connection is more than 24 hrs then yes.

No.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 18, 2014, 11:43:24 AM

If you're connection is more than 24 hrs then yes.

No.
my connection is less than 24 hours, and I can't seem to find info about that
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: boropark123 on December 18, 2014, 12:08:45 PM

my connection is less than 24 hours, and I can't seem to find info about that
http://www.saint-petersburg.com/russian-visa/transit-visas.asp
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: jewland on December 22, 2014, 01:57:44 AM
has anyone rented a car in Ukraine before? is the road safe ?

I have driven in Poland, and it was no problem.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 23, 2014, 10:42:11 AM
has anyone rented a car in Ukraine before? is the road safe ?

I have driven in Poland, and it was no problem.
Depends where you plan on driving. The roads are notoriously unsafe in the winter.

If you are going to kivrei tzadikim I would just hire a driver for the day (I can provide contact details)
If you are just driving between larger cities like Kiev, Kharkov, Uman & Odessa then a rental should be fine.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 23, 2014, 01:19:07 PM
If I dont have a russian visa but I have an airport change in moscow (which I believe needs one) will they deny me boarding by my outbound flight from TLV?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Mech on December 23, 2014, 01:25:39 PM

If I dont have a russian visa but I have an airport change in moscow (which I believe needs one) will they deny me boarding by my outbound flight from TLV?

Or sneak in and out with neither illegally
(long story, not for now)
One day Ill share it, lets just say that mossad Probably has an easy time there
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 23, 2014, 01:39:39 PM
If I dont have a russian visa but I have an airport change in moscow (which I believe needs one) will they deny me boarding by my outbound flight from TLV?

http://www.saint-petersburg.com/russian-visa/transit-visas.asp

This doesn't apply to you?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 23, 2014, 01:52:48 PM
This doesn't apply to you?
i have to leave the airport since my teleporting machine that would get to the other airport is currently not working
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on December 24, 2014, 11:33:55 AM
In kbp now. I have an hour till my connection. What to do?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 24, 2014, 12:59:48 PM
In kbp now. I have an hour till my connection. What to do?

Other than the 4 lounge options with priority pass?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shoshannahh on December 30, 2014, 01:36:56 PM
we are considering stopping in Russia on the way to Israel for Lag B'omer but the stops are so long we may make that into a destination on its own. with an approximate 22 hour stopover in Moscow what are the must do-es and the things to know? 
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 30, 2014, 01:45:22 PM
we are considering stopping in Russia on the way to Israel for Lag B'omer but the stops are so long we may make that into a destination on its own. with an approximate 22 hour stopover in Moscow what are the must do-es and the things to know?
For starters, know that you need a visa to leave the airport. The cheapest visa If done by yourself is 140 or 160 pp
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shoshannahh on December 30, 2014, 02:12:59 PM
thanks i figured as much from reading the posts so far. it still works out cheaper then any other ticket and we get to see another city :)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 30, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
red square
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Tankchucker on December 30, 2014, 02:26:38 PM
For starters, know that you need a visa to leave the airport. The cheapest visa If done by yourself is 140 or 160 pp
I wish Good luck to anybody that tries to get a russian visa on their own.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 30, 2014, 02:37:57 PM
I wish Good luck to anybody that tries to get a russian visa on their own.
whys that? not quite rocket science
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 30, 2014, 02:43:14 PM
I wish Good luck to anybody that tries to get a russian visa on their own.
Not so hard for those will Basic rule comprehension, also I could not find any reputable services that get you transit visas which are the cheaper ones
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Tankchucker on December 30, 2014, 03:05:48 PM
whys that? not quite rocket science
Go take a look at the russian embassies website, the English is horrible, and barely any instruction, and you have to go to the embassy in person unless you are using the a agency, unless you are unemployed and bored its not worth it.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 30, 2014, 03:26:14 PM
Go take a look at the russian embassies website, the English is horrible, and barely any instruction, and you have to go to the embassy in person unless you are using the a agency, unless you are unemployed and bored its not worth it.
ive done it in israel. not a big deal
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Tankchucker on December 30, 2014, 03:31:56 PM
ive done it in israel. not a big deal
I would assume that in Israel they don't have close to as many applicants as they have in the US as Israelis don't need a visa. In America you can't even get the embassy on the phone just to ask what you need to bring with you when you come over, I've never walked in because I used a travel agency that specializes in russian visas once I realized what a pain it is to do on my own, but the wait must be loooong
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 30, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
thanks i figured as much from reading the posts so far. it still works out cheaper then any other ticket and we get to see another city :)
It works out cheaper than Ukraine? You don't need a visa there.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 30, 2014, 03:44:52 PM
we are considering stopping in Russia on the way to Israel for Lag B'omer but the stops are so long we may make that into a destination on its own. with an approximate 22 hour stopover in Moscow what are the must do-es and the things to know?
There are lots of things to do and see, it would all depend on your preference? Art? Action? History? etc.

There are a few nice things to do near Red Sqaure, You can do breakfast in a kosher place in the center then head out to Chabad @ Marina Rosche for dinner...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Tankchucker on December 30, 2014, 07:34:17 PM
There are lots of things to do and see, it would all depend on your preference? Art? Action? History? etc.

There are a few nice things to do near Red Sqaure, You can do breakfast in a kosher place in the center then head out to Chabad @ Marina Rosche for dinner...
+1

I just want to add that marina rosche (meotz) is where everything you need is, there's a mikva 2 kosher restaurants minyanim... All in the same building and around the corner there are two kosher groceries and the museum of tolerance which is worth stopping in.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 31, 2014, 07:51:28 AM
you can't even get the embassy on the phone just to ask what you need to bring with you when you come over,
ive never gotten through to any embassy to know what you need to bring. thats what the internet is for
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 31, 2014, 07:52:25 AM
iirc marina roscha is a real shlep to get to and out of the center. not worth a visit with limited time. cmiiw
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 31, 2014, 09:17:15 AM
iirc marina roscha is a real shlep to get to and out of the center. not worth a visit with limited time. cmiiw
Unless you have a driver with diplomatic plates and a blue light. I miss those days.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shoshannahh on December 31, 2014, 10:46:41 AM
Thanks everyone.  we are going with my almost 3 year old so the touring sounded exciting at first, but now we are deciding if anything will be worth while with a kvetchy child...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 31, 2014, 10:55:48 AM
Red square is a must! Worth stopping just for that. To see jewish moscow marina Rosha is a must!! They built what in my opinion is the most advanced holocaust museum in the world at a cost of close to 100 million (currently most advanced museum in russia) and adjacent to marina Rosha. In the same area they have 2 restaurants plus a cafe in museum plus a small Israeli style place. Also have 3 kosher stores.

A boys school girls school, yeshiva, chesed for elderly, two youth clubs...

Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Tankchucker on December 31, 2014, 02:52:40 PM
ive never gotten through to any embassy to know what you need to bring. thats what the internet is for
That's what I said about horrible English on the Russian embassy website, and there is no FAQS there to know about specifics of you need an invitation for which visa... For those who would enjoy multiple trips to the embassy, go for it.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 31, 2014, 06:01:28 PM
The way to get a russian visa is to contact a tour operator who takes care of everything A-Z..

It's more costly, but they arrange a tourist voucher for you, they submit it and receive it.. worth the money you pay..

One such company is CTVC in Manhattan. a bit pricey but worth saving on the hassle.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 31, 2014, 06:49:33 PM
That's what I said about horrible English on the Russian embassy website, and there is no FAQS there to know about specifics of you need an invitation for which visa... For those who would enjoy multiple trips to the embassy, go for it.
notice i didnt mention anything about checking the russian embassy website. theres a wealth of info online. it was one and done for me.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hakohen on January 20, 2015, 11:43:45 AM
Has anyone been in the lounges in SVO Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport using 'lounge club' (from chase ink) ?

How are the lounges? JFK-TLV aeroflot stops in terminal D.  is it worth the walk to terminal E, are the ones in F better ?

What's in the Baby care rooms or Mother & child rooms?

https://www.loungeclub.com/en/our-lounges/lounge-detail/SVO2 
http://www.svo.aero/en/transport/
TIA
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: yossi621 on March 01, 2015, 06:18:02 PM
Has anyone been in the lounges in SVO Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport using 'lounge club' (from chase ink) ?

How are the lounges? JFK-TLV aeroflot stops in terminal D.  is it worth the walk to terminal E, are the ones in F better ?

What's in the Baby care rooms or Mother & child rooms?

https://www.loungeclub.com/en/our-lounges/lounge-detail/SVO2 
http://www.svo.aero/en/transport/
TIA

bump
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 16, 2015, 11:22:23 AM
bump
I just used a lounge in D (I cant remember if I used PP, Lounge Access or my business class ticket. It wasn't anything to write home about.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: elikay on March 18, 2015, 10:09:20 PM
anyone know cheapest way to get into a lounge in SVO? are there any lounges accessible with United pass? EDIT: I see here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16.msg920225#msg920225 that there are probably no United lounges..
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: elikay on March 23, 2015, 01:37:10 AM
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Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 23, 2015, 02:13:04 AM


anyone know cheapest way to get into a lounge in SVO? are there any lounges accessible with United pass?
Do you have any of the lounge programs?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on April 08, 2015, 12:45:51 AM
Anyone have experience applying for a Russian visa at the NYC location?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on April 08, 2015, 03:09:45 AM
Anyone have experience applying for a Russian visa at the NYC location?


"ve are not an office supply store, ve are ze consulate of ze Rrrrussian Fedarrration"
(asked them for a stapler for something they wanted me to staple!)
but if everything is ready and in order shouldn't be to bad, just be ready for real bureaucracy... 
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on April 08, 2015, 03:13:07 AM

"ve are not an office supply store, ve are ze consulate of ze Rrrrussian Fedarrration"
(asked them for a stapler for something they wanted me to staple!)
but if everything is ready and in order shouldn't be to bad, just be ready for real bureaucracy...
I would say that sums it up quite well
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on April 08, 2015, 03:15:19 AM
I would say that sums it up quite well

 :) been there over 15 times, I have a love hate relationship with Russia and Russians, at the end of the day you just need to look back and laugh at the ridiculousness of it all...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on April 08, 2015, 11:49:54 AM
Nice, so what I want to know about specifically is about the processing times it says on their site and automated phone system, and how long it actually takes. For the transit visa I need, it says it takes 4-10 business days. I'm leaving to Russia in 7 business days, so from your experience do you think they will be able to accommodate me? Also, I've heard that sometimes they can do it the same day, but would that only be if you pay a lot extra to expedite it? Lastly, are bribes appropriate at a Russian consulate, or only on real Russian soil?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on April 08, 2015, 11:58:28 AM

Nice, so what I want to know about specifically is about the processing times it says on their site and automated phone system, and how long it actually takes. For the transit visa I need, it says it takes 4-10 business days. I'm leaving to Russia in 7 business days, so from your experience do you think they will be able to accommodate me? Also, I've heard that sometimes they can do it the same day, but would that only be if you pay a lot extra to expedite it? Lastly, are bribes appropriate at a Russian consulate, or only on real Russian soil?

They can rush it, it really depends on their mood...just be as nice as possible and be organized.

I would not try bribing at the consulate but that may just be me.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on November 12, 2015, 11:16:53 AM
How does one get an invitation for tourism to enter Russia?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on November 12, 2015, 12:01:35 PM
How does one get an invitation for tourism to enter Russia?
Hotel, tour guide, agency, almost everyone can give you one
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: SRM on December 07, 2015, 01:09:00 PM
Thinking about taking a trip to Russia (St. Petersburg & Moscow) as well as Belarus this winter. Any must sees or other tips? Any cities in Russia other than the 2 I mentioned worth visiting? Looking for any and all opinions. TIA
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on December 31, 2015, 03:20:58 PM
Crazy idea to spend a Shabbos in Moscow in Feb. en-route to the Far East? Seems the St. Regis is down the block from the Choral Synagogue

Anywhere nice to eat Shabbos meals?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on February 02, 2016, 12:59:52 PM
Is there a service or TA in Jerusalem that can assist with a Russian visa?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on February 02, 2016, 01:21:07 PM

Is there a service or TA in Jerusalem that can assist with a Russian visa?
Yes there's a place on Malchi Yisroel and (I think) corner of ben matisyahu that did it for a pretty fair price.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on February 02, 2016, 01:25:27 PM
Yes there's a place on Malchi Yisroel and (I think) corner of ben matisyahu that did it for a pretty fair price.

Would that be Ideal Tours?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on February 02, 2016, 01:25:48 PM

Would that be Ideal Tours?
Sounds right.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shmuelb on February 03, 2016, 12:12:09 PM
In TA, look up Transaer, across the hall from the consulate. (if they are still there)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: danthecan on February 10, 2016, 10:55:30 PM
Can anyone recommend a driver/guide for Moscow?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on March 06, 2016, 02:14:19 PM
Is Coca-Cola kosher in Ukraine?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 06, 2016, 02:33:33 PM
Is Coca-Cola kosher in Ukraine?
Your gonna have the same people answering you no matter which thread you ask in.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on March 06, 2016, 02:41:06 PM
Your gonna have the same people answering you no matter which thread you ask in.

So let my ask this, is there anyone on here that lives or has spent time in Ukraine?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on March 06, 2016, 03:00:38 PM
http://yeahthatskosher.com/2014/03/are-soda-other-soft-drinks-from-europe-kosher/
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on May 03, 2016, 07:21:22 PM
What's the best sim card to buy in Kiev airport (kbp) to call USA and Europe, to use for 4 days talk and text
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 03, 2016, 08:49:28 PM
What's the best sim card to buy in Kiev airport (kbp) to call USA and Europe, to use for 4 days talk and text
Cheapest would be Vodafone not sure if they sell it at the airport comes out to 0.5 UAH per minute to USA/can (100 UAH or around $4 for 200 minutes)

BTW IMHO Russia and Ukraine should be two separate threads......
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 03, 2016, 09:15:40 PM
Cheapest would be Vodafone not sure if they sell it at the airport comes out to 0.5 UAH per minute to USA/can (100 UAH or around $4 for 200 minutes)

BTW IMHO Russia and Ukraine should be two separate threads......
Isn't 'life' cheaper?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 03, 2016, 09:32:39 PM
Isn't 'life' cheaper?
Not to usa
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on May 04, 2016, 12:15:08 PM
Kievstar went up in price for international calls, Life;) used to have a service called "vilniey mir" which would give you calls to the US for about 5c per minute.
I lived in Ukraine for 1.5 years.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 04, 2016, 12:29:15 PM
Kievstar went up in price for international calls, Life;) used to have a service called "vilniey mir" which would give you calls to the US for about 5c per minute.
I lived in Ukraine for 1.5 years.
Vodafone comes out to 0.020 per minute to US
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 05, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
Kievstar went up in price for international calls, Life;) used to have a service called "vilniey mir" which would give you calls to the US for about 5c per minute.
I lived in Ukraine for 1.5 years.
I remember how they used to scam me when buying the life Sim card in kbp, after one call I would have a zero balance
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on May 08, 2016, 12:13:51 PM
Cheapest would be Vodafone not sure if they sell it at the airport comes out to 0.5 UAH per minute to USA/can (100 UAH or around $4 for 200 minutes)


ended up using Vodafone, can be bought in the airport.

 
BTW IMHO Russia and Ukraine should be two separate threads......
agreed
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 10, 2016, 12:29:41 AM
Does anyone have concrete information on Shavous in Medzhybizh?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 10, 2016, 10:04:49 AM
Does anyone have concrete information on Shavous in Medzhybizh?
What info are you looking for?
Around 500 people are expected
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 10, 2016, 10:26:04 AM
What info are you looking for?
Around 500 people are expected
Im trying to book a private room.
Getting info was like pulling teeth. I finally got info.
It seems like the private hotel rooms are booked out by the people that are coming for years.There are though shared bedrooms in apartments between 4-8 people per room.Total cost for Chag would be  $100. Checkin is Thursday.

Are there any insiders here that can help with getting a room?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 10, 2016, 12:09:53 PM
Im trying to book a private room.
Getting info was like pulling teeth. I finally got info.
It seems like the private hotel rooms are booked out by the people that are coming for years.There are though shared bedrooms in apartments between 4-8 people per room.Total cost for Chag would be  $100. Checkin is Thursday.

Are there any insiders here that can help with getting a room?
are you going yourself?
I can try help you, I go every year (although this year we're awaiting a Simcha)

There's simply no words to describe the experience of shevous in mezibush, it's magical

Imo it's the world's best kept secret
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 11, 2016, 03:25:53 AM
are you going yourself?
I can try help you, I go every year (although this year we're awaiting a Simcha)

There's simply no words to describe the experience of shevous in mezibush, it's magical

Imo it's the world's best kept secret
thank you. I am going myself. Perhaps you can reserve a spot and give it to me? It seems that only those that have been going for years are eligible for private rooms. They are at a premium and money doesn't talk here (ironically).
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 11, 2016, 03:34:51 AM
thank you. I am going myself. Perhaps you can reserve a spot and give it to me? It seems that only those that have been going for years are eligible for private rooms. They are at a premium and money doesn't talk here (ironically).
Yup your not getting a private room, forget about it (even the private rooms have a minimum on two beds)

I would sleep in a room of 4 beds with friends,


The first two years we rented a house from a bubushke with no electricity and an outhouse, now that was fun!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 11, 2016, 04:16:38 PM
Yup your not getting a private room, forget about it (even the private rooms have a minimum on two beds)

I would sleep in a room of 4 beds with friends,


The first two years we rented a house from a bubushke with no electricity and an outhouse, now that was fun!

my buddy would only come if we got a private room. That would make 2. As per the house, not my kinda chill.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 11, 2016, 04:42:51 PM
my buddy would only come if we got a private room. That would make 2. As per the house, not my kinda chill.
I'm working on getting you a private room, spoke with a couple of guys

I'll let you know when I confirm it 100%
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on May 11, 2016, 06:47:21 PM
Can't you just call gabai, he just finished the new building so he might have rooms. And btw there are single rooms in the new building
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 12, 2016, 02:09:18 AM
I'm working on getting you a private room, spoke with a couple of guys

I'll let you know when I confirm it 100%
Thank You Very much. While I do appreciate your help please Don't kill yourself.
Can't you just call gabai, he just finished the new building so he might have rooms. And btw there are single rooms in the new building
As Per The Head guy in the Israeli office, there are no rooms available in the hotel and two new buildings will not be completed in time for שבועות.
@eli1571
Are you going to be there?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 12, 2016, 02:17:32 AM
Can't you just call gabai, he just finished the new building so he might have rooms. And btw there are single rooms in the new building
It's been finished for a couple of years already
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on May 12, 2016, 08:52:50 AM
Thank You Very much. While I do appreciate your help please Don't kill yourself.As Per The Head guy in the Israeli office, there are no rooms available in the hotel and two new buildings will not be completed in time for שבועות.
@eli1571
Are you going to be there?
Unfortunately not.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on May 12, 2016, 08:54:20 AM
It's been finished for a couple of years already
There's a new building which was finished within the last year, its behind the building that was called hotel till now.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 12, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
There's a new building which was finished within the last year, its behind the building that was called hotel till now.

As Per The Head guy in the Israeli office, there are no rooms available in both of the hotels.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on May 12, 2016, 07:00:07 PM

As Per The Head guy in the Israeli office, there are no rooms available in both of the hotels.
Not sure what Ur trying to say with that quote.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 13, 2016, 01:52:57 AM
Not sure what Ur trying to say with that quote.
There are two hotels. A new one and old one. They are both full. The overflow will be 4 per room in the nearby apartments.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on May 13, 2016, 01:59:11 AM
Do any of you have info on מונקאטש?
Is there a הכנסת ארכום? מקוה?
How much does it cost to stay? How is the quality of accommodations? Do they provide food?
Is the minyan reliable?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 13, 2016, 09:36:19 AM
Do any of you have info on מונקאטש?
Is there a הכנסת ארכום? מקוה?
How much does it cost to stay? How is the quality of accommodations? Do they provide food?
Is the minyan reliable?
PM
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on May 13, 2016, 10:36:47 AM
There are two hotels. A new one and old one. They are both full. The overflow will be 4 per room in the nearby apartments.
All I said in that post is that there's a new building just finished recently.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shmuelb on September 06, 2016, 01:58:40 PM
New Shul in DME! See here (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1672974903029797&set=a.1435708283423128.1073741827.100009519111319)

Basically, across Sberbank on 2nd floor.

In case you missed it - the shul in SVO is at the gate where NY and TLV flight come and go... end of terminal across from each other.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 20, 2016, 10:57:45 PM
How long do I need to catch a connecting flight in KBP?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on September 21, 2016, 03:24:31 PM
How long do I need to catch a connecting flight in KBP?
connecting to domestic?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 21, 2016, 03:25:56 PM
connecting to domestic?
JfK-KBP-TLV.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on September 21, 2016, 03:26:45 PM
JfK-KBP-TLV.
ah, dont know
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on October 18, 2016, 11:49:48 PM
Does anyone know of any groups that visit the Kvarim interesting to a Lubavitcher in Ukraine or Berditchev Mezhibuzh that is open to couples? When are there trips planned?  Are there any that go in the Summer and are well priced?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on November 15, 2016, 08:49:14 PM
What is the cheapest way to combine a trip with Ukraine and Belarus and Russia
I am interested in going with my husband to mekoimos hakedoishim in Ukraine and Belarus and maybe spend two days in Moscow.
Any suggestions? Do you know of anyone who specializes in putting together tours?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 07, 2017, 11:45:32 PM
Other than R' Nachman, Kedushas Levi, and the Bal Shem Tov, are there other major rabbis along this route?:
https://goo.gl/maps/JVGetxjLp282
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on January 08, 2017, 12:21:12 AM
Other than R' Nachman, Kedushas Levi, and the Bal Shem Tov, are there other major rabbis along this route?:
https://goo.gl/maps/JVGetxjLp282
Not really along the route. Closest is prob an hour detour.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 08, 2017, 01:25:39 AM
Not really along the route. Closest is prob an hour detour.
Which is?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 17, 2017, 05:34:35 PM
Which is?
What's your starting & ending point KBP?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: David Smith on January 17, 2017, 06:00:55 PM
Other than R' Nachman, Kedushas Levi, and the Bal Shem Tov, are there other major rabbis along this route?:
https://goo.gl/maps/JVGetxjLp282
Rav Zishe in Anipoli (Rav Nattan in Breslov), Rav Meilech in Lizhensk if you want to cross border.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 17, 2017, 10:11:21 PM
What's your starting & ending point KBP?
yes. Mezhbizh for shabbos.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 17, 2017, 10:13:10 PM
Rav Zishe in Anipoli (Rav Nattan in Breslov), Rav Meilech in Lizhensk if you want to cross border.
Anipoli is a major detour. Lezajsk is far!
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on January 17, 2017, 11:51:10 PM
קברי צדיקים באוקראינה

http://www.umanshalom.co.il/html/kivrei_tzadikim.html
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 18, 2017, 02:13:29 PM
Do you want to go these places
1) on your route from kiev to mezibez before shabbos
2) on your route from mezibez to kiev after shabbos
3) separate trip starting and returning to mezibez?

And how many hours will you have to spend?


P.s. Russia & Ukraine should NOT be one thread ;)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on January 18, 2017, 06:02:23 PM
P.s. Russia & Ukraine should NOT be one thread ;)
Agreed.
Do you want to go these places
1) on your route from kiev to mezibez before shabbos
2) on your route from mezibez to kiev after shabbos
3) separate trip starting and returning to mezibez?

And how many hours will you have to spend?
Arriving wednesday afternoon into KBP. Driving to Uman and staying overnight. Thinking of driving to Berdychiv on thursday and then Friday to medzhybizh. So essential need to fill thursday. Would like to sleep thursday in either Berdychiv or Medzhybizh.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Scmcodes on February 07, 2017, 03:35:56 PM
yes. Mezhbizh for shabbos.
where you staying im looking to come for Shabbos heard muttel frank is there
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 08, 2017, 12:49:01 AM
where you staying im looking to come for Shabbos heard muttel frank is there
In Medzhybizh. Either the hotel or the apartments. I am not going for a while...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 08, 2017, 04:39:32 AM
where you staying im looking to come for Shabbos heard muttel frank is there
He is there shabbos tu-bishvat?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Scmcodes on February 08, 2017, 07:52:14 AM
He is there shabbos tu-bishvat?
yes with 250 others $130 food and stay for the weekend
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 08, 2017, 12:08:32 PM
yes with 250 others $130 food and stay for the weekend
Ha. Shavous is free!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on February 09, 2017, 11:16:42 PM
Ha. Shavous is free!
just the food.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 10, 2017, 01:33:43 AM
just the food.
-1. Depends where you sleep.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on February 10, 2017, 01:59:59 AM
-1. Depends where you sleep.
I'm not sure what you're referring to but the average guy (hopefully) pays for a bed, whether it's  $10 a night or $150
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 10, 2017, 02:02:47 AM
I'm not sure what you're referring to but the average guy (hopefully) pays for a bed, whether it's  $10 a night or $150
I paid $40 all in. That was because I staid by a local. But some of my friends were lucky and stayed at the organization owned property and did not have to pay.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: David Smith on February 10, 2017, 02:03:52 AM
I paid $40 all in. That was because I staid by a local. But some of my friends were lucky and stayed at the organization owned property and did not have to pay.
Had running water?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 10, 2017, 02:04:26 AM
Had running water?
I did not. They did.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on February 10, 2017, 02:11:47 AM
I did not. They did.
BTDT. Fun times
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 11, 2017, 09:55:34 PM
BTDT. Fun times
Yeah man. I wou;d do it again. However I got this thing this year. Really annoying. It is called a "JOB". Lol
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 26, 2017, 01:45:30 PM
Is there a daily Minyanim in Uman?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on February 26, 2017, 03:09:41 PM
Is there a daily Minyanim in Uman?
Plenty,
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 28, 2017, 01:01:26 AM
Who is buried in shepetivka?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on February 28, 2017, 01:12:29 AM
Who is buried in shepetivka?
I think the Toldos. yakov yosef the Baal shems talmid
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 28, 2017, 01:43:21 AM
I think the Toldos. yakov yosef the Baal shems talmid
He is in Polonne
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on February 28, 2017, 01:53:10 AM
He is in Polonne
Sorry my bad. Reb Pinchus Koritzer is there
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 28, 2017, 02:07:36 AM
Sorry my bad. Reb Pinchus Koritzer is there
Noted. Thanks.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on February 28, 2017, 02:32:43 PM
I am planing a Poland and Ukraine trip for a friend. I am hitting a wall on the last bit. The guy will arrive in Zhuliany early Thursday morning from WAW and would like to spend Shabbos in Medzhybizh before heading back to NY on Monday. This is projected as a summer trip hence the late Friday afternoon. I could change it to project a winter trip if necessary.

Wednesday
10:40 PM    Depart WAW to Kiev-Zhuliany (IEV)
01:10 AM    Arrive at IEV,
01:15 AM    Clear Immigration and Claim Baggage
01:55 AM    Meet Driver and Depart to Hotel
02:20 AM    Staro Hotel Check In

Thursday
08:20 AM    Depart to Orach Chaim Synagogue
08:30 AM    Shachris, Mikvah, and Breakfast
10:30 AM    Return to Hotel
11:40 AM    Arrive at Hotel
03:00 PM    Hotel Check Out 
03:10 PM    Depart to Uman
06:10 PM    Arrive in Uman and Check In to Hotel
07:00 PM    Depart to Mincha/Maariv, Dinner, Tour Uman, and Visit R' Nachman of Breslov
10:00 PM    Return to Hotel


Friday
09:00 AM    Hotel Check Out
09:10 AM    Depart to Shachris
09:15 AM    Arrive at The Kloiz for Shachris
10:10 AM    Depart for Breakfast
10:15 AM    Arrive at Breakfast
10:50 AM    Depart for Berdychiv
01:50 PM    Rest Stop
02:05 PM    Continue to Berdychiv
03:00 PM    Arrive Berdychiv and Visit the Kedushas Levi
04:00 PM    Depart to Medzhybizh
04:50 PM    Rest Stop
05:00 PM    Continue to Medzhybizh
06:30 PM    Arrive in Medzhybizh and Check In to Hotel


At first I thought I was going to do the itinerary but then I did not know to deal with Sunday because my friend needs to have a good nights sleep before he returns home due to medical reasons. So I am thinking of doing the reverse now: https://goo.gl/maps/RNBxwdVWKHp
I am however hesitant because I don't know how I would do it considering that there is a later start on Thursday. Would you cut something out or do it entirely different?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 01, 2017, 05:11:00 AM
Flying back from KBP ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 01, 2017, 10:05:34 AM
Flying back from KBP ?
Yes unless LWO is better suited?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 01, 2017, 04:58:55 PM
Yes unless LWO is better suited?
So are you looking for places to stop on way back ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 01, 2017, 05:45:15 PM
So are you looking for places to stop on way back ?
no. just want to get home.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 01, 2017, 06:07:56 PM
no. just want to get home.
I am really sorry but I don't get the problem, why can't your friend arrive Kiev Sunday night sleep all he needs and depart Monday
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 01, 2017, 11:17:13 PM
I am really sorry but I don't get the problem, why can't your friend arrive Kiev Sunday night sleep all he needs and depart Monday
I apologize for the ambiguity.
My friend can do that. I am wondering what to do do for Sunday. With so many places to hit and having to arrive in Kiev at a decent hour, I am wondering  what should I cut out? Or perhaps I should change the itinerary completely?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 02, 2017, 04:35:14 AM
I apologize for the ambiguity.
My friend can do that. I am wondering what to do do for Sunday. With so many places to hit and having to arrive in Kiev at a decent hour, I am wondering  what should I cut out? Or perhaps I should change the itinerary completely?
That's why I asked
So are you looking for places to stop on way back ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 02, 2017, 04:35:41 AM
When r u planning leaving mezibuzh motzei shabbos or Sunday morning ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 02, 2017, 10:05:09 AM
That's why I asked
I thought you meant a "stopover" when flying.
When r u planning leaving mezibuzh motzei shabbos or Sunday morning ?

MS would work if there are normal accommodations for the night. I am unfamiliar with that area as I have only slept in Lviv, Mukacheve, and Medzhybizh.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 02, 2017, 10:49:37 AM
If you leave Sunday morning you should be able to do ostroh, polnueh, shpitvke, anipoli, on way to airport.

If you want to travel really long vilednik is prob about 4 hours.

Then just find a hotel for Sunday night in jiev
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 02, 2017, 12:58:58 PM
If you leave Sunday morning you should be able to do ostroh, polnueh, shpitvke, anipoli, on way to airport.

If you want to travel really long vilednik is prob about 4 hours.

Then just find a hotel for Sunday night in jiev

Sunday 
10:00 AM Hotel Check Out and Depart to Polonne 
12:15 PM  Arrive in Polonne and Visit the Toldos Yaakov Yosef 
12:30 PM Depart to Shepetivka 
01:00 PM Rest Stop 
01:15 PM Continue to Shepetivka 
01:25 PM Arrive in Shepetivka and visit Reb Pinchas of Koritz 
01:35 PM Depart to Ostroh 
02:30 PM Arrive in Ostroh and Visit the Maharsha 
02:50 PM Depart to Hannopil 
03:45 PM Rest Stop 
04:00 PM Continue to Hannopil 
04:05 PM Arrive in Hannopil and Visit the Mezritcher Magid and Reb Zishe 
05:05 PM Depart to Kiev Borispol Airport Hotel 
06:45 PM Rest Stop 
07:00 PM Continue to Hotel   
10:00 PM Arrive and Check In to Hotel
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 02, 2017, 01:48:47 PM



Sunday 
10:00 AM Hotel Check Out and Depart to Polonne 
12:15 PM  Arrive in Polonne and Visit the Toldos Yaakov Yosef 
12:30 PM Depart to Shepetivka 
01:00 PM Rest Stop 
01:15 PM Continue to Shepetivka 
01:25 PM Arrive in Shepetivka and visit Reb Pinchas of Koritz 
01:35 PM Depart to Ostroh 
02:30 PM Arrive in Ostroh and Visit the Maharsha 
02:50 PM Depart to Hannopil 
03:45 PM Rest Stop 
04:00 PM Continue to Hannopil 
04:05 PM Arrive in Hannopil and Visit the Mezritcher Magid and Reb Zishe 
05:05 PM Depart to Kiev Borispol Airport Hotel 
06:45 PM Rest Stop 
07:00 PM Continue to Hotel   
10:00 PM Arrive and Check In to Hotel

Sounds perfect. In ostroh there's also r yeivi, r pinchos koritz'er is basically a car park on the side of the road. And just for your info to take into consideration while working out rest stops. there's a house for guest to rest right across the street of the cemetery in polnoah, and right outside cemetery in anipoli and this one has a mikva as well.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 02, 2017, 03:27:17 PM
Depending on the budget of your client(?) you may consider taking advantage of KBP's VIP service: https://kbp.kiev.ua/en/infra/vip/
I tried it yesterday in ODS - from the seat of my flight from TLV to the curbside Taxi in 2 minutes & 21 seconds, it's a new record of mine.

Also, what are you using for local transportation?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 03, 2017, 12:29:25 AM
Depending on the budget of your client(?) you may consider taking advantage of KBP's VIP service: https://kbp.kiev.ua/en/infra/vip/
I tried it yesterday in ODS - from the seat of my flight from TLV to the curbside Taxi in 2 minutes & 21 seconds, it's a new record of mine.

Also, what are you using for local transportation?
The trip starts in BUD. From the it goes west and then north to Poland. In Poland the first stop is Rymanow and the last stop is Warsaw. From WAW to IEV by flight, as stated in the up thread. That said, there will be multiple drivers hired to save money.

If they am only flying out of KBP and have priority passes is there a point in the VIP Service? The hotel for the last night has a free shuttle from the hotel to the airport.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 04, 2017, 08:41:12 PM
Is there a normal bathroom by the Mezritcher Maggid?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 04, 2017, 11:02:59 PM
Is there a normal bathroom by the Mezritcher Maggid?
No
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 05, 2017, 05:01:10 AM
Is there a normal bathroom by the Mezritcher Maggid?
Sure there is. There's a mikva as well.




No
When were you there last ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 05, 2017, 11:14:14 AM
Sure there is. There's a mikva as well.
When were you there last?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 05, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
When were you there last?
Just to confirm your talking about anipoli ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2017, 10:23:29 AM
Just to confirm your talking about anipoli ?
yes
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 06, 2017, 10:25:41 AM
yes
Less than a year ago. Do you have access to the oholei tzadikim website /
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on March 06, 2017, 11:00:39 AM
For all these on this thread, there's a whatsapp group by http://www.zadikim.net/ (http://www.zadikim.net/) with all the top people in Kivrei zadikim there any question will be answered by people in the field.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/EDW8uknEt8oDgCBz99xKzn

The link will be revoked soon to prevent spam.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2017, 03:40:53 PM
No whatsapp
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2017, 03:41:27 PM
Less than a year ago. Do you have access to the oholei tzadikim website /
kinda limited in english
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 07, 2017, 02:17:14 PM
So as far as I recall there's a building with bathrooms mikva and room to eat daven etc.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 07, 2017, 03:19:10 PM
So as far as I recall there's a building with bathrooms mikva and room to eat daven etc.
fantastic
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 08, 2017, 05:30:22 AM
fantastic
But do check with @hvaces when he was there, as he says there's no bathroom there.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on March 08, 2017, 09:50:12 AM
But do check with @hvaces when he was there, as he says there's no bathroom there.
Havent been there in like 5 years. Last time i was there you got to the ohel on a hay ride or the back of the guys mototcycle. Nothing remotely resembling a bathroom or dining hall or mikva nearby. Maybe things have changed...or maybe youre confusing it with another place. Was there at least 5 times before that.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 08, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
fantastic
Havent been there in like 5 years. Last time i was there you got to the ohel on a hay ride or the back of the guys mototcycle. Nothing remotely resembling a bathroom or dining hall or mikva nearby. Maybe things have changed...or maybe youre confusing it with another place. Was there at least 5 times before that.
look here for pics of the hachnasas orchim, mikva etc http://www.zadikim.org/index.asp?catID=77528&siteLang=2
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 17, 2017, 06:02:32 AM
fantastic
Have you finalised the itinerary ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 17, 2017, 05:04:04 PM
Have you finalised the itinerary ?
I have. I do not know if they will use it though.
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Shevs177 on March 18, 2017, 04:20:08 PM
Anyone know how I can get a flight to Lizhensk from Israel for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Z56 on March 18, 2017, 04:46:37 PM
Anyone know how I can get a flight to Lizhensk from Israel for tomorrow?

Private jet 😜
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 18, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
I have. I do not know if they will use it though.
Is it something you can post or pm ? Wouldn't mind seeing it.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 19, 2017, 02:32:21 AM
Is it something you can post or pm ? Wouldn't mind seeing it.
PM sent.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 19, 2017, 07:26:18 AM
PM sent.
thanx, will have a look a bit later.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: yoohoo on April 04, 2017, 12:46:01 PM
http://bit.ly/2nZjubl

Ukraine airlines will upgrade your seat to business class if you find a lower price elsewhere
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 04, 2017, 07:05:25 PM
http://bit.ly/2nZjubl

Ukraine airlines will upgrade your seat to business class if you find a lower price elsewhere
UIA (PS) Business Class is the worst money I ever spent.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on April 08, 2017, 11:15:39 PM
are there any programs or kosher hotels/kosher food in kiev for pesach?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 11, 2017, 01:52:37 PM
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone could help me plan our trip to Ukraine and St Petersburg.
We are IYH planning to fly in to Kiev on Aug. 7.
Where would you recommend staying in Kiev in the Jewish community? How would you recommend going from the airport to the jewish community?
Would you take a tour guide to visit anything  in kiev?
We are planning to go do the following from Tues- Wed Thurs-
Mezhibuzh, Niezhin Anipoli (Berditchev if not out of the way)
We are planning to stay iyh in Haditch for Shabbos and leave Sunday back to Kiev.
Any suggestions on how we would structure our trip? Where to stay on the way?
I imagine one night in Mezhibuzh and two in haditch.
Additionally where would you stay in St. Petersburg and is there a driver or a tour guide to take there?

Thanks again, I appreciate your help!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: David Smith on June 11, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Why shabbos in Haditch and not Mezibuzh?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on June 11, 2017, 02:13:28 PM
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone could help me plan our trip to Ukraine and St Petersburg.
We are IYH planning to fly in to Kiev on Aug. 7.
Where would you recommend staying in Kiev in the Jewish community? How would you recommend going from the airport to the jewish community?
Would you take a tour guide to visit anything  in kiev?
We are planning to go do the following from Tues- Wed Thurs-
Mezhibuzh, Niezhin Anipoli (Berditchev if not out of the way)
We are planning to stay iyh in Haditch for Shabbos and leave Sunday back to Kiev.
Any suggestions on how we would structure our trip? Where to stay on the way?
I imagine one night in Mezhibuzh and two in haditch.
Additionally where would you stay in St. Petersburg and is there a driver or a tour guide to take there?

Thanks again, I appreciate your help!
1) if you wanna stay right in Jewish community there is a Jewish hotel called podol inn with a restaurant on site
http://www.podol-inn.com/en

2) there are usually drivers in airport. It should not cost to much.

3) don't think you need a guide in Kiev most drivers know all the basic Jewish sites, and I don't think there is muck in Kiev...

4) leaving from kiev to "medzhybizh" and stopping in "berdychiv" should not add more than half hour to your trip.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on June 11, 2017, 02:40:14 PM
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone could help me plan our trip to Ukraine and St Petersburg.
We are IYH planning to fly in to Kiev on Aug. 7.
Where would you recommend staying in Kiev in the Jewish community? How would you recommend going from the airport to the jewish community?
Would you take a tour guide to visit anything  in kiev?
We are planning to go do the following from Tues- Wed Thurs-
Mezhibuzh, Niezhin Anipoli (Berditchev if not out of the way)
We are planning to stay iyh in Haditch for Shabbos and leave Sunday back to Kiev.
Any suggestions on how we would structure our trip? Where to stay on the way?
I imagine one night in Mezhibuzh and two in haditch.
Additionally where would you stay in St. Petersburg and is there a driver or a tour guide to take there?

Thanks again, I appreciate your help!

I would go from "Kiev" to "Annopol" to "Medzhybizh" to Berdychiv" to "Niezyn" to "Hadyach"
These are the correct spellings for google maps if you wanna look for yourself.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 11, 2017, 05:03:23 PM
Why shabbos in Haditch and not Mezibuzh?
Two reasons:
Mezhibuzh has no room that shabbos
and I am Lubavitch
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 11, 2017, 05:07:02 PM
Thanks a lot for your help!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 11, 2017, 05:40:54 PM
Two more questions- Does anyone have the contact information for Hadyach (Haditch) and how to reserve a room to sleep at the hachnosas orchim near the ohel?
Also, does anyone know of reliable drivers who are well priced for taking people around Ukraine?

Is it worth contacting Uman Express and taking them to some of the kevorim? Are they cheaper?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: elimmm on June 13, 2017, 08:01:19 AM
what about renting a car and driving in ukraine?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ABC on June 13, 2017, 08:53:10 AM
what about renting a car and driving in ukraine?

I don't think it's worth it if a driver is so cheap there, and they drive like meshiguim, so I would be scared to drive there.
Especially that it takes hours to get to each place, you might as well sleep in the back.

We rented from שפיעכעלע a van, it was a luxury VIP van, it felt like business class, I don't remember the cost.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on June 13, 2017, 03:50:06 PM
what about renting a car and driving in ukraine?
You may get harassed by the police for money.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on July 10, 2017, 12:08:11 AM
Does anyone know of the other company that drives vans from the airport to mekoimos hakedoshim besides Uman Express?
Is it cheaper to use Uman Express or the other company?

Will they go to other places such as hadiach, hanipoli, neizihn, or is it cheaper and smarter to take a driver?

Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on July 10, 2017, 12:08:49 AM
Any advice of where to stay in St. Petersburg and where to go visit?
We are only there for one day.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on July 10, 2017, 12:32:00 AM
Any advice of where to stay in St. Petersburg and where to go visit?
We are only there for one day.

A side note. I'm sure you know, a visa is required for may citizens (except Israel).
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 10, 2017, 08:31:19 AM
Any advice of where to stay in St. Petersburg and where to go visit?
We are only there for one day.
If you like museums, the Hermitage, located in the winter palace is world class
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on July 10, 2017, 08:54:14 AM
Does anyone know of the other company that drives vans from the airport to mekoimos hakedoshim besides Uman Express?
Is it cheaper to use Uman Express or the other company?

Will they go to other places such as hadiach, hanipoli, neizihn, or is it cheaper and smarter to take a driver?

Any recommendations?
פאיכלה?
yohayon148@gmail.com
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on July 10, 2017, 09:54:45 AM
Thanks a lot for your replies. Yes, I know that it is expensive to get a visa for one day. But, we figure that we are not going back at this point. I will check out the van company that you suggested.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on July 16, 2017, 04:12:57 PM
Hi! Would anyone be able to comment on my itinerary and see if you have any recommendations?

I have a few questions:
Here is our itinerary: Would you make any changes?  Would you do anything in Kiev? If we wanted to go to Fastach is it out of our way and when would you go there?

Monday:
Pick up from the Airport we arrive at Kiev airport Aug. 7 at 2 pm we would like to go to Babi Yar, if it is not out of the way. We are iyh staying at Podol inn.  Is there any suggestions of something not to miss?


Tuesday:


1-We want to leave from Kiev 12:00 noon, on Tuesday, Morning Aug. 8 (from the Podol Inn)
and go to  Berditchev (2 hours) and  Mezhibuzh (2 hours 13 minutes) and stay in Mezhibuzh Tuesday night. (4 and half hours)

2-Wednesday, Aug. 10, We want to go from Mezhibuzh to Anipoloi and stay in zhitomir (or nearby)

3-On Thursday, Aug. 11, we would go from Zhitomir to Niezhin stay nearby thursday (any suggestions of where to stay?)

5-Friday- go from Niezhin to Hadiach

6-Sunday, Aug. 13 Hadiach in the morning we would like to leave to the Kiev airport
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on August 02, 2017, 09:55:47 AM
HI Sorry for bothering!

We are iyh going to St Petersburg for a night.  Any suggestions where to stay if we don't have enough spg points? If we are using cash? We thought about W Marriott but they are sold out that night.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 02, 2017, 10:08:31 AM
Why not search tripadvisor?

I stayed at the Ambassador Hotel back in 2010, but dont know the recent reviews of the place
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on September 24, 2017, 12:32:25 AM
Considering that the Berdichyv Yartzeit is on 25 Tishrei/October 15, how would it be possible for one flying out of NYC to get to Berdichyv in time for the Yartzeit?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on September 24, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
Considering that the Berdichyv Yartzeit is on 25 Tishrei/October 15, how would it be possible for one flying out of NYC to get to Berdichyv in time for the Yartzeit?
Depending on how soon after yom tov you can leave, there should be several options.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on September 24, 2017, 02:05:03 AM
Depending on how soon after yom tov you can leave, there should be several options.
PS232, the nonstop gets in at 05:05 and all connecting flights arrive later.  You then still need to drive to Berdychiv and arrive by 72, which is 07:26 PM.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on December 29, 2017, 10:57:47 AM
Hi! Would anyone be able to comment on my itinerary and see if you have any recommendations?

I have a few questions:
Here is our itinerary: Would you make any changes?  Would you do anything in Kiev? If we wanted to go to Fastach is it out of our way and when would you go there?

Monday:
Pick up from the Airport we arrive at Kiev airport Aug. 7 at 2 pm we would like to go to Babi Yar, if it is not out of the way. We are iyh staying at Podol inn.  Is there any suggestions of something not to miss?


Tuesday:


1-We want to leave from Kiev 12:00 noon, on Tuesday, Morning Aug. 8 (from the Podol Inn)
and go to  Berditchev (2 hours) and  Mezhibuzh (2 hours 13 minutes) and stay in Mezhibuzh Tuesday night. (4 and half hours)

2-Wednesday, Aug. 10, We want to go from Mezhibuzh to Anipoloi and stay in zhitomir (or nearby)

3-On Thursday, Aug. 11, we would go from Zhitomir to Niezhin stay nearby thursday (any suggestions of where to stay?)

5-Friday- go from Niezhin to Hadiach

6-Sunday, Aug. 13 Hadiach in the morning we would like to leave to the Kiev airport

How did this work out? Did you rent a car? driver?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on February 28, 2018, 09:55:10 PM
Cheap Star Alliance Business Class to Ukraine (from $1399 RT) - http:// frequentmiler.boardingarea.com/2018/02/28/
cheap-star-alliance-business- class-ukraine-1399-rt/
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: troner100 on March 06, 2018, 03:39:34 PM
can someone recommend a driver in ukraine?
someone reliable, cheap, and decent car...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Z56 on March 06, 2018, 04:10:35 PM
can someone recommend a driver in ukraine?
someone reliable, cheap, and decent car...

Try ohoeili tzadikim in isreal
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 06, 2018, 06:32:13 PM
can someone recommend a driver in ukraine?
someone reliable, cheap, and decent car...
From which city, for how long?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: troner100 on March 08, 2018, 06:39:26 AM
from kiev, for a full day
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 09, 2018, 11:20:05 AM
from kiev, for a full day
Fluent english speaker?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 22, 2018, 02:51:22 PM
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/277777/air-tahiti-nui-schedules-boeing-787-nov-2018-launch/
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on March 22, 2018, 03:31:45 PM
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/277777/air-tahiti-nui-schedules-boeing-787-nov-2018-launch/
Wrong thread?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on April 12, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
Need some help here.
I intentionally took a long stopover in Ukraine (kbp) and was going to spend a night in keiv with a friend. The friend just backed out and it'll cost me a fortune to change the connecting flight.
Now that I'm not with someone I have no intention on going around by myself. What should I do for a 18.5 hour stopover in boryspil? I have a priority pass but I didn't see beds in any of the lounge amenities.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 12, 2018, 03:14:21 PM
Need some help here.
I intentionally took a long stopover in Ukraine (kbp) and was going to spend a night in keiv with a friend. The friend just backed out and it'll cost me a fortune to change the connecting flight.
Now that I'm not with someone I have no intention on going around by myself. What should I do for a 18.5 hour stopover in boryspil? I have a priority pass but I didn't see beds in any of the lounge amenities.
Why are you so afraid to go out and explore? There are shuls, kosher restaurants, It's fairly safe - you can visit babi yar etc...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on April 12, 2018, 04:16:15 PM
Why are you so afraid to go out and explore? There are shuls, kosher restaurants, It's fairly safe - you can visit babi yar etc...
Where are the kosher restaurants? What's good hechsherim there? And what's a cheap hotel near the Jewish community (but not gritty)?
Just gonna be there for one night.
I'm only gonna do this for the Jewish stuff, so what's a must see in Kiev if there are no plans on being back there?
Title: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on April 12, 2018, 04:38:54 PM
There is a Jewish hotel by the shul. Sent you pm earlier
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on April 12, 2018, 04:57:36 PM
There is a Jewish hotel by the shul. Sent you pm earlier
Sorry I didn't see that. I've turn off notifications in DDF a long time ago
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 12, 2018, 06:59:27 PM
Where are the kosher restaurants? What's good hechsherim there? And what's a cheap hotel near the Jewish community (but not gritty)?
Just gonna be there for one night.
I'm only gonna do this for the Jewish stuff, so what's a must see in Kiev if there are no plans on being back there?
If you've got the budget, you can do Haditch, Uman, Medzhybuzh, etc. Have you been to either of them before?

Look up Babyn Yar - it's a must do for most jews.

See info on the shuls here: https://kievtravelblog.com/2017/07/4829/5-unmissable-jewish-sites-kiev/

Restaurants in Kiev:

Taki Da - Glatt (Very good hashgacha) - https://goo.gl/maps/Rr58pZiUZGz
Hours: 12pm to 11pm
http://taki-da.net/en

Mendis - Glatt (chabad hechsher) - https://goo.gl/maps/uHuUbyFCMWk - Under/behind the Chabad shul There's a Grocery store & Mikvah there as well.
http://kiev.mendiskosher.com.ua

Uber works fine in Kiev (but you can get a driver if you plan on going further out.



Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on April 21, 2018, 11:36:22 PM
Just wondering if there is any places to stay or any resources in lubavitch or Rostov or any people to contact there?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on April 22, 2018, 12:04:15 AM
Just wondering if there is any places to stay or any resources in lubavitch or Rostov or any people to contact there?
Ask here https://chat.whatsapp.com/invite/Cask1fvy0kM9rRQvuIGAcU you should get a quick response
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on April 22, 2018, 12:18:43 AM
Thank you! I will check into it!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on April 22, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Hi! Does anyone have the contact info of the person in Lubavitch to speak to to arrange a visit?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on April 25, 2018, 11:12:20 AM
Just wondering if there is any places to stay or any resources in lubavitch or Rostov or any people to contact there?

Lubavitch - Gavriel Gordon +7 968 770-00-01
Rostov - Chaim Danziger +79185583765
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on April 29, 2018, 01:19:55 AM
Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 06, 2018, 08:16:24 AM
Seems wiki needs some work lol.
The WhatsApp group is full,

I'd like to spend next week Shabbos in Medzhybuzh
Group of 4
As of now we would arrive in KBP late Thursday night 9:45pm and leave Sunday night/early Monday morning.
Trying to figure a basic itinerary
Appreciate any advice
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on June 06, 2018, 09:36:44 AM
Seems wiki needs some work lol.
The WhatsApp group is full,

I'd like to spend next week Shabbos in Medzhybuzh
Group of 4
As of now we would arrive in KBP late Thursday night 9:45pm and leave Sunday night/early Monday morning.
Trying to figure a basic itinerary
Appreciate any advice

Order dinner to go from Mendys or Taki Da - spend the night in Kiev (like the Kosher Hotel (http://www.podol-inn.com/en) by the litvish community)

Traffic in kiev on friday mornings can be a nightmare but you can check out Babi Yar etc take some lunch to go from the above mentioned places and hit the road to Medzhybush before midday. The way should take less than 5 hours with a decent driver (shkia is around 9pm)

Motzash or sunday morning you can head out to berdichev, breslov, uman - KBP is 2 hours from uman (you can stop in kiev for dinner on the way out, but again getting in and out of kiev can take an extra hour)

Let me know if you need any contact info for Medzhbuzh/Kiev/Uman drivers, hotels etc.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 10, 2018, 07:54:12 PM
Hi! Just wondering if there are any spg hotels near the Chabad community in Moscow?
Also, is there a thread for Belarus (Minsk)
and a thread for Poland?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on June 10, 2018, 07:56:08 PM
Oops..I see there is a Poland thread but don't see a Belarus thread
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on June 10, 2018, 07:57:31 PM
Order dinner to go from Mendys or Taki Da - spend the night in Kiev (like the Kosher Hotel (http://www.podol-inn.com/en) by the litvish community)

Traffic in kiev on friday mornings can be a nightmare but you can check out Babi Yar etc take some lunch to go from the above mentioned places and hit the road to Medzhybush before midday. The way should take less than 5 hours with a decent driver (shkia is around 9pm)

Motzash or sunday morning you can head out to berdichev, breslov, uman - KBP is 2 hours from uman (you can stop in kiev for dinner on the way out, but again getting in and out of kiev can take an extra hour)

Let me know if you need any contact info for Medzhbuzh/Kiev/Uman drivers, hotels etc.

They can stop in Fastov and Skvir as well on the way back from Uman to KBP.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 11, 2018, 04:42:20 AM

They can stop in Fastov and Skvir as well on the way back from Uman to KBP.
Order dinner to go from Mendys or Taki Da - spend the night in Kiev (like the Kosher Hotel (http://www.podol-inn.com/en) by the litvish community)

Traffic in kiev on friday mornings can be a nightmare but you can check out Babi Yar etc take some lunch to go from the above mentioned places and hit the road to Medzhybush before midday. The way should take less than 5 hours with a decent driver (shkia is around 9pm)

Motzash or sunday morning you can head out to berdichev, breslov, uman - KBP is 2 hours from uman (you can stop in kiev for dinner on the way out, but again getting in and out of kiev can take an extra hour)

Let me know if you need any contact info for Medzhbuzh/Kiev/Uman drivers, hotels etc.
thanks!
Tickets went up to $400
Looks like will have to push it off.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on June 13, 2018, 12:43:53 AM
Order dinner to go from Mendys or Taki Da - spend the night in Kiev (like the Kosher Hotel (http://www.podol-inn.com/en) by the litvish community)

Traffic in kiev on friday mornings can be a nightmare but you can check out Babi Yar etc take some lunch to go from the above mentioned places and hit the road to Medzhybush before midday. The way should take less than 5 hours with a decent driver (shkia is around 9pm)

Motzash or sunday morning you can head out to berdichev, breslov, uman - KBP is 2 hours from uman (you can stop in kiev for dinner on the way out, but again getting in and out of kiev can take an extra hour)

Let me know if you need any contact info for Medzhbuzh/Kiev/Uman drivers, hotels etc.
I hear that the restaurant at the Jewish center in Podol is far better and cheaper than Mendy's.
Barditchiv is right on the way from Kiev to Medzibush and it's about 2 hours out of the way from Medzibush to Uman especially with the bad roads nowadays.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on June 13, 2018, 12:57:22 PM
I hear that the restaurant at the Jewish center in Podol is far better and cheaper than Mendy's.
Barditchiv is right on the way from Kiev to Medzibush and it's about 2 hours out of the way from Medzibush to Uman especially with the bad roads nowadays.
AFAIK you must pass through Berditchev when going back from Medzibuzh to Uman. Kiev, BErditchev and Uman are a triangle and Medzibuzh is a tangent off the berditchev point of the triangle, further west.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on June 13, 2018, 04:41:16 PM
AFAIK you must pass through Berditchev when going back from Medzibuzh to Uman. Kiev, BErditchev and Uman are a triangle and Medzibuzh is a tangent off the berditchev point of the triangle, further west.
Nope, you must pass through Barditchiv when going from Kiev to Medzibush.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kyiv,+Ukraine,+02000/Berdychiv,+Zhytomyrs'ka+oblast,+Ukraine/%D7%9E%D7%96'%D7%99%D7%91%D7%95%D7%96',+Khmel'nyts'ka+oblast,+Ukraine%E2%80%AD/Uman',+Cherkas'ka+oblast,+Ukraine/Kiev,+Kyiv+city,+Ukraine/@49.5911294,27.8534228,8z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m32!4m31!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d4cf4ee15a4505:0x764931d2170146fe!2m2!1d30.5234!2d50.4501!1m5!1m1!1s0x472cf987459e4d1f:0xfed4d70ca7c66999!2m2!1d28.5900313!2d49.9106591!1m5!1m1!1s0x472d8b6ae57c8f1b:0xca6bc8e80fa9778!2m2!1d27.4042153!2d49.4389042!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d20dbb89bbb1d7:0x48312c80d42f9951!2m2!1d30.2154406!2d48.7699292!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d4cf4ee15a4505:0x764931d2170146fe!2m2!1d30.5234!2d50.4501!3e0
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on June 14, 2018, 11:52:14 AM
AFAIK you must pass through Berditchev when going back from Medzibuzh to Uman. Kiev, BErditchev and Uman are a triangle and Medzibuzh is a tangent off the berditchev point of the triangle, further west.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/35kii3c.png)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on June 14, 2018, 08:57:47 PM
Seems that my Berditchiv based drivers were biased to their hometown and always took me back there before Uman. Thanks for the map.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 14, 2018, 09:03:48 PM
Just to update.
Booked flight this morning
Flight was diverted to KBP (original destination was IEV)
As suave suggested i called Podol (Taki Da)and had them prepare Sandwichs (3 for $24)which we picked up on way.
It's pouring here and the roads are terrible, just arrived at R' YDB Vilenick, heading to Tronnabil and then Uman
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: US on June 14, 2018, 10:56:43 PM
Just to update.
Booked flight this morning
Flight was diverted to KBP (original destination was IEV)
As suave suggested i called Podol (Taki Da)and had them prepare Sandwichs (3 for $24)which we picked up on way.
It's pouring here and the roads are terrible, just arrived at R' YDB Vilenick, heading to Tronnabil and then Uman
Poil ales gits!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on June 15, 2018, 03:12:22 PM
Why is Russia and Ukraine in the same thread?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 16, 2018, 06:15:25 PM
It used to be the USSR thread

Also, it would get very confusing when asking questions regarding Crimea
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 17, 2018, 08:28:26 AM
Ordering ahead from Mendy's.
Anything not to be missed?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 08, 2018, 09:59:22 AM
What is the better option for Shabbos? Moscow or St. Petersburg?

Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 08, 2018, 02:52:13 PM
Both have shuls within walking distance to the prime hotels. Moscow has a larger local community but St Petersburg has beautiful Paris style gardens and etc to visit on Shabbos afternoon
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 20, 2018, 06:24:58 PM
Safe to bring food into Russia? Pom meals/frozen meat?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on July 25, 2018, 07:04:57 PM
What is the best way to bring money to spend in Russia, Belarus or Kazakstan?  What is safe? Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 01, 2018, 03:38:33 AM
What is the best way to bring money to spend in Russia, Belarus or Kazakstan?  What is safe? Any suggestions?
I always bring in $500 - $1000 cash & exchange some of it somewhere in the city (not the airport) after checking the official rates, just google "1USD to RUB" for instance.

For everything else I use my Paypal debit card (many ATM's worldwide do not charge fees, Paypal takes $1.50 per transaction, but I found their exchange rates to be reasonable)

AmEx is not commonly accepted, but Visa & Mastercard should be fine.

I always have 100 ILS, 50 EUR, 50 GBP, 200 UAH etc - all in smaller bills & coins in a small wallet that I keep in my backpack. It has saved me several times already.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on August 07, 2018, 03:12:36 AM
Any recommendations of what to do in Moscow? We are here for a day? Also what to order at a restaurant in marina roscha?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Saver on August 09, 2018, 06:49:16 AM
Hi! Our plans fell through the last minute. Any recommendations on where to stay and where to eat in Kiev?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: 1356Abe on August 09, 2018, 09:58:40 AM
Hi! Our plans fell through the last minute. Any recommendations on where to stay and where to eat in Kiev?
Taki Da in Kiev has great food and prices. A google search will pull it up. What type of place you looking to stay in?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on August 28, 2018, 08:34:24 PM
I'm being Odessa for one day any suggestion's for a nice hotel close to the בית חב''ד?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on August 28, 2018, 09:51:44 PM
I'm being Odessa for one day any suggestion's for a nice hotel close to the airport?
I see there's a lot of  4 and 5 star hotels that are available for bargains Like 30 to $50 per night What would be the best hotel to choose? the best would be not to far from the Synagogue on 21 Osipova St.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on September 03, 2018, 11:31:32 PM
I see there's a lot of  4 and 5 star hotels that are available for bargains Like 30 to $50 per night What would be the best hotel to choose? the best would be not to far from the Synagogue on 21 Osipova St.
IIRC that's not Chabad.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: helpyouamdme on September 04, 2018, 10:32:20 AM
IIRC that's not Chabad.
https://www.chabad.org/centers/default_cdo/aid/117885/jewish/Jewish-Community-of-Odessa.htm
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on September 04, 2018, 05:48:43 PM
I'm being Odessa for one day any suggestion's for a nice hotel close to the בית חב''ד?
Sorry, Just saw this now. I live here in Odessa.. Feel free to PM.

Google these hotels:
Vintage (closest to chabad)
Bristol (Owned by a local chabadnik)
Frapolli 21
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on September 04, 2018, 05:49:58 PM
IIRC that's not Chabad.
It is very much The main Chabad Shul of Odessa.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: rollingstone on September 04, 2018, 06:47:57 PM
Anyone know of a hotel/הכנסת אורחים near a kever/shul in Ukraine with availability for this shabbos?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on September 14, 2018, 07:25:15 AM
It is very much The main Chabad Shul of Odessa.
Yeah, I got mixed up.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on October 08, 2018, 04:31:29 AM
Anything to do in Kharkiv Ukraine?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on October 08, 2018, 08:34:24 AM
Anything to do in Kharkiv Ukraine?
I spent a few weeks there, nothing too exciting. You can wander around the Central Market...

If you are traveling with children you can try the Childrens Railway (http://www.pz.gov.ua/dept/100062) & Dolphinarium (http://en.nemo.ua/kh/).
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on October 10, 2018, 10:24:06 AM
Is Coca-Cola kosher in Ukraine?
does anyone know?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: oldguy on October 10, 2018, 02:35:37 PM
does anyone know?
According to Rabbi Landau of BB, Sprite is, not Coke
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on October 10, 2018, 02:44:50 PM
According to Rabbi Landau of BB, Sprite is, not Coke
-1 All rav Landau said was that he doesn't know that it is Kosher but other rabanim from Ukraine and elsewhere say that it is Kosher.
Pepsi is Kosher according to the Eidah.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on October 11, 2018, 03:23:38 PM
does anyone know?
Chabad here in Odessa serves it at public functions. Most Uman pilgrims drink it.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: a good yeshiva bachur on October 14, 2018, 05:53:52 AM
does anyone know?
I got a video from torah box about coke and they say the Ukraine coke is not kosher and on rosh Hashana they bring in coke from Israel to uman...
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ekay on October 19, 2018, 12:27:25 AM
I got a video from torah box about coke and they say the Ukraine coke is not kosher and on rosh Hashana they bring in coke from Israel to uman...
I was this past Shabbos in Mezibuz,Ukraine and stayed in the kosher hotel there. It is under the hechsher of cadasya from London which is very reliable and they served Coke. I spoke to the mashgiach and he said that everybody except Rav Landau holds it’s ok. Even Rav Landau didn’t say its treif he is just Choshesh on something.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on October 19, 2018, 10:11:30 AM
-1 All rav Landau said was that he doesn't know that it is Kosher but other rabanim from Ukraine and elsewhere say that it is Kosher.
I was this past Shabbos in Mezibuz,Ukraine and stayed in the kosher hotel there. It is under the hechsher of cadasya from London which is very reliable and they served Coke. I spoke to the mashgiach and he said that everybody except Rav Landau holds it’s ok. Even Rav Landau didn’t say its treif he is just Choshesh on something.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on November 06, 2018, 05:25:29 PM
Contact info for shabbos accommodations in Mezibuzh?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: US on November 07, 2018, 07:46:15 AM
Contact info for shabbos accommodations in Mezibuzh?
Try this number, 845 290 8144
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ekay on November 07, 2018, 10:46:33 AM
Contact info for shabbos accommodations in Mezibuzh?
jholiness.co.il 97229997272
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on November 07, 2018, 10:48:05 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Frostboot on December 18, 2018, 03:17:03 PM
Can anyone recommend a good private driver that can take me round trip from Kiev to Uman?

Also, is there kosher food in Uman year-round?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on December 18, 2018, 03:36:11 PM

Also, is there kosher food in Uman year-round?

yes, there is also a kosher hotel
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ekay on December 18, 2018, 09:16:09 PM
Can anyone recommend a good private driver that can take me round trip from Kiev to Uman?

Also, is there kosher food in Uman year-round?
Pyachali is good. Info in the wiki.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 21, 2018, 01:51:25 AM
Can anyone recommend a good private driver that can take me round trip from Kiev to Uman?

Also, is there kosher food in Uman year-round?
There are about 6 different restaurants open year round - I would recommend ภl Haboqu้r (https://goo.gl/maps/d9Cc62ckWkS2) - owned & operated by a close friend of mine (+ I came up with the brand)

You can PM me for driver info
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 02, 2019, 11:31:43 AM
Hi- do I need a visa if I plan on making a quick trip to Ukraine from US?
also ive seen that the best option to fly using points is with BA and bh was able to find availability but the YQs are VERY high. is there a better way to fly using points or a way to avoid/reduce the YQ on the BA flights ? TIA
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 02, 2019, 11:36:13 AM
Hi- do I need a visa if I plan on making a quick trip to Ukraine from US?
No
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Moshe26 on January 02, 2019, 11:57:37 AM
No
thanks!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: emineh17 on January 08, 2019, 03:26:14 PM
Hi,

I will be going next week to Mezibuz for shabbos.
Landing on Wednesday at around 1pm and leaving Sunday at 2pm.

1. What is the best way to get around preferably with an english speaking driver or someone that knows where the kevarim are?
2. How can I plan an itinerary and find where to go the entire Thursday, Friday, motzei shabbos and Sunday morning. I don't mind not sleeping Thursday night and motzei shabbos.
3. Kosher food in Kiev, Uman, and other places?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 08, 2019, 04:03:46 PM
Hi,

I will be going next week to Mezibuz for shabbos.
Landing on Wednesday at around 1pm and leaving Sunday at 2pm.

1. What is the best way to get around preferably with an english speaking driver or someone that knows where the kevarim are?
2. How can I plan an itinerary and find where to go the entire Thursday, Friday, motzei shabbos and Sunday morning. I don't mind not sleeping Thursday night and motzei shabbos.
3. Kosher food in Kiev, Uman, and other places?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

1. Payachela or UmanExpress
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: emineh17 on January 08, 2019, 04:05:01 PM
1. Payachela or UmanExpress
Both reliable? Same pricing? Contact info?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on January 08, 2019, 04:08:55 PM
Both reliable? Same pricing? Contact info?

http://www.hatzolahukraine.org/%D7%AA%D7%97%D7%91%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94/

http://www.hatzolahukraine.org/%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%A2%D7%93%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%9B%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA-2/

http://www.hatzolahukraine.org/%D7%97%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%9B%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA/
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on January 08, 2019, 07:14:15 PM
Hi,

I will be going next week to Mezibuz for shabbos.
Landing on Wednesday at around 1pm and leaving Sunday at 2pm.

1. What is the best way to get around preferably with an english speaking driver or someone that knows where the kevarim are?
2. How can I plan an itinerary and find where to go the entire Thursday, Friday, motzei shabbos and Sunday morning. I don't mind not sleeping Thursday night and motzei shabbos.
3. Kosher food in Kiev, Uman, and other places?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
The topic wiki covers all this.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Pesach on February 23, 2019, 07:24:48 PM
is there a way to confirm a driver in Kiev tonight before taking off  even though it is 230 am there?  also, are all prices the same for all car services?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on February 23, 2019, 07:47:17 PM
is there a way to confirm a driver in Kiev tonight before taking off  even though it is 230 am there?
Yes, WhatsApp Payechali +380 93 379 0111
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on February 25, 2019, 10:18:23 AM
Yes, WhatsApp Payechali +380 93 379 0111
Or UmanEx
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2019, 07:56:06 PM
is there a Hachnosas Orchim in Hannopil?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 07, 2019, 02:59:59 AM
03:20 PM Arrive at Noam Elimelech: Tehillim & Dinner (Takeaway)
04:20 PM Depart to Rzesz๓w-Jasionka Airport
05:15 PM Rental Car Return
05:30 PM Depart to Ostroh (Vulytsya Papanina, 13, Ostroh, Rivnens'ka oblast, Ukraine)
12:00 AM Arrive at Maharsha

We are then going to visit:

Hannapil
Shepitivka
Polonne
Berdychiv
Medyzhbizh
Uman

The question is, are there any viable lodging options in Ostroh, Hannapil, or, Shepitivka?

As of now I've got Hotel Ukraine Rivne, 25 minutes off the route.

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 10, 2019, 03:27:52 AM
What is the average rate or CPM for drivers in Ukraine?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on March 10, 2019, 07:04:23 AM
What is the average rate or CPM for drivers in Ukraine?
I remember paying $200 for 8 hours of driving and 4 hours of waiting (12 total).
Or maybe $225. In a 5 seater "jeep" (he called it a jeep, it was a Toyota but had more room than a car.)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on March 10, 2019, 09:10:11 AM
What is the average rate or CPM for drivers in Ukraine?
Between ข18-27 a kilometer for a car (depends what type of car) and between ข25 -33 for a van. This includes the car, driver and gas.
You usually don't pay for waiting time but if you stop overnight, you have to pay the driver for a bed, in Uman and Mezibush it's $7

You also have to pay for the kilometers when the driver comes to you and when he returns home. If the driver lives in Uman and picks you up in Lvov and drops you off at KBP, you'll have to pay for the kilometers to/from Uman.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 10, 2019, 03:13:23 PM
Between ข18-27 a kilometer for a car (depends what type of car) and between ข25 -33 for a van. This includes the car, driver and gas.
You usually don't pay for waiting time but if you stop overnight, you have to pay the driver for a bed, in Uman and Mezibush it's $7

You also have to pay for the kilometers when the driver comes to you and when he returns home. If the driver lives in Uman and picks you up in Lvov and drops you off at KBP, you'll have to pay for the kilometers to/from Uman.
We are four people so I guess a car would be good. I am looking for 2 or 3 drivers so we don't have to pay for overnight or for the driver's long trip back home.
This is what we are looking for:

April 30: I need a driver based out of Rivne, Ukraine to pick us up from Rzeszow Airport and drive us to Ukraine Hotel in Rivne, Ukraine
May 01: I need that same driver, or a Medzhybizh based driver to drive us from Rivne to Medzhybizh  stopping in Ostroh, Shepetivka, Polonne, and Berdychiv along the way.
May 02: I need a Medzhybizh or Kiev based driver to drive us from Medzhybizh to Uman and then to Boryspil Airport.

Do you have any leads I can contact via email?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on March 10, 2019, 07:07:20 PM
We are four people so I guess a car would be good. I am looking for 2 or 3 drivers so we don't have to pay for overnight or for the driver's long trip back home.
This is what we are looking for:

April 30: I need a driver based out of Rivne, Ukraine to pick us up from Rzeszow Airport and drive us to Ukraine Hotel in Rivne, Ukraine
May 01: I need that same driver, or a Medzhybizh based driver to drive us from Rivne to Medzhybizh  stopping in Ostroh, Shepetivka, Polonne, and Berdychiv along the way.
May 02: I need a Medzhybizh or Kiev based driver to drive us from Medzhybizh to Uman and then to Boryspil Airport.

Do you have any leads I can contact via email?
I usually use Poyechali or Uber where available (and sometimes cheaper).
AFAIK Poyechali only has drivers from Uman but sometimes they'll have in Mezibush and Kiev (after dropping off other travelers) and you won't get charged to/from Uman (you have to specifically ask for it).

I don't have any leads for Rivne, you can try to reach out to Rabbi Bald from Lvov to see if he has anything in that area.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: chff on March 10, 2019, 08:08:22 PM
Sometimes it's better to walk across the border and have a another driver wait you there
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on March 10, 2019, 08:36:40 PM
Sometimes it's better to walk across the border and have a another driver wait you there

+1 Saves time and money.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 10, 2019, 09:00:19 PM
Sometimes it's better to walk across the border and have a another driver wait you there
+1 Saves time and money.
so are you saying I should get a driver to the border and then a 2nd driver meet us across the border?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on March 11, 2019, 10:35:16 AM
so are you saying I should get a driver to the border and then a 2nd driver meet us across the border?
Yes.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 11, 2019, 03:10:51 PM
Yes.
Is there a pedestrian crossing?
I am not finding one.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on March 11, 2019, 03:48:58 PM
Is there a pedestrian crossing?
I am not finding one.
Which crossing?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on March 11, 2019, 05:06:52 PM
Is there a pedestrian crossing?
I am not finding one.

there is a special pedestrian crossing border, its called something like druvitch
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on March 11, 2019, 05:17:48 PM
I crossed by foot at the Psemysl crossing.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 12, 2019, 01:38:25 AM
I crossed by foot at the Psemysl crossing.
Where did the driver drop you off?
How long did it take?
What time of day?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on March 12, 2019, 02:54:52 AM
I crossed by foot at the Psemysl crossing.
Where did the driver drop you off?
How long did it take?
What time of day?
I did it 8 years ago
We arrived somewhere about noon time and we waited for over 2 hours in the freezing cold, the line didnt move. at some point we decided to catch a few hours of sleep, checked in to a small motel for 5 hours.
We then crossed in the evening and it took just a few minutes.
But was a great experience
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 12, 2019, 04:56:41 AM
I did it 8 years ago
We arrived somewhere about noon time and we waited for over 2 hours in the freezing cold, the line didnt move. at some point we decided to catch a few hours of sleep, checked in to a small motel for 5 hours.
We then crossed in the evening and it took just a few minutes.
But was a great experience
Did you get dropped right by the border?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on March 12, 2019, 08:20:14 AM
Where did the driver drop you off?
How long did it take?
What time of day?
There are parking lots where you can get dropped off and you have to walk just a few hundred feet to the border crossing.
It was about 9pm and took just a few minutes.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 24, 2019, 12:47:07 AM
The nesiya tova app does not list zlotchiv as having an hacnasas orchim. Can anyone here confirm that?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: gsquared on March 24, 2019, 06:21:26 PM
Has anyone spent shabbat in Moscow? Specifically need ideas regarding meals, hotels, activities etc
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: chff on March 24, 2019, 09:55:12 PM
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 25, 2019, 12:14:19 AM
The nesiya tova app does not list zlotchiv as having an hacnasas orchim. Can anyone here confirm that?
Found it:
http://yampola.com/

I guess it is not in zlochiv.
However it is the the sight of where R' Michel Zlotchiver is buried.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on April 01, 2019, 03:49:10 PM
Does anyone here have the number of the Lviv based Driver called "Sascha"? He supposedly very popular and has his own network of drivers....
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on April 01, 2019, 04:05:37 PM
Does anyone here have the number of the Lviv based Driver called "Sascha"? He supposedly very popular and has his own network of drivers....

+380 322 931 109
+380 67 382 5441
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on April 01, 2019, 05:28:30 PM
+380 322 931 109
+380 67 382 5441
Thank You!
Does he speak English? Yiddish?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 02, 2019, 04:31:01 AM
Thank You!
Does he speak English? Yiddish?
I can translate to russian for you if need be.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on April 02, 2019, 07:56:29 AM
Thank You!
Does he speak English? Yiddish?

he speak English
his email is: scetinin@gmail.com
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on April 02, 2019, 12:07:10 PM
Can anyone comment on this?:
http://ukraine-travel-secrets.com/medyka-shegyni.html

Specifically if there is a bus from Sheyhni and how late does it run?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ayspit on May 02, 2019, 06:50:08 PM
Does anyone have a driver or tour guide in moscow ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 03, 2019, 07:37:35 AM
Does anyone have a driver or tour guide in moscow ?
PM Me
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 21, 2019, 01:50:11 PM

Quote from: yitzyul
4 hour stopover in Kiev, is that enough time to catch a minyan Shacris ? and where? (Brodsky Shul?)



Nearly impossible, time of day?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: oldguy on May 26, 2019, 01:52:32 PM
Does anyone have any info on getting around in Ukraine with a helicopter?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Yehudaa on May 27, 2019, 04:06:46 PM
Going around on whatsapp.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Happyguy on May 28, 2019, 02:35:26 PM
Is it possible to get from Kiev Airport(KBP) to Uman by public transport?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on May 28, 2019, 02:40:34 PM
Is it possible to get from Kiev Airport(KBP) to Uman by public transport?
UmanExpress or Poyyacheli
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on May 28, 2019, 10:11:53 PM
Is it possible to get from Kiev Airport(KBP) to Uman by public transport?
You can take the skybus to the central bus station & transfer to a Kiev-Uman bus https://kbp.aero/en/transport/bus/
I would not recommend it if you do not speak Russian or Ukrainian.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on June 02, 2019, 12:25:30 AM
Is it possible to get from Kiev Airport(KBP) to Uman by public transport?
You can take the skybus to the central bus station & transfer to a Kiev-Uman bus https://kbp.aero/en/transport/bus/
I would not recommend it if you do not speak Russian or Ukrainian.
http://ticket.bus.com.ua/
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on June 02, 2019, 06:57:34 AM
Is it possible to get from Kiev Airport(KBP) to Uman by public transport?
Rent car
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on June 02, 2019, 07:03:39 AM
Rent car
It usually wouldn't come out cheaper than taking Payechali.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Boruch Parnes on June 02, 2019, 07:05:49 AM
It usually wouldn't come out cheaper than taking Payechali.
For me it came out cheaper  it depends on how many miles you plan on driving
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AskanManchester on June 20, 2019, 10:37:41 AM
Hi, I'm in the middle of planning a Europe trip covering Ukraine, Poland, Czech, Slovakia and Hungary. I will post the whole Intinary here when it's done. (If you can advise me which thread it should go on please).

I will be spending a Shabbos in Uman and would like to know if anyone has experience with Places to eat on Shabbos and if you can go there with your wife (besides for hotels which are expensive for food).

Also, is there a hotel in Medzhybizh near the Zion of the Baal Sham that you can check in after midnight?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on June 21, 2019, 11:18:21 AM
Hi, I'm in the middle of planning a Europe trip covering Ukraine, Poland, Czech, Slovakia and Hungary. I will post the whole Intinary here when it's done. (If you can advise me which thread it should go on please).

I will be spending a Shabbos in Uman and would like to know if anyone has experience with Places to eat on Shabbos and if you can go there with your wife (besides for hotels which are expensive for food).

Also, is there a hotel in Medzhybizh near the Zion of the Baal Sham that you can check in after midnight?
yes. You should go there for Shabbos. Better than uman imo
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on June 21, 2019, 11:21:32 AM
Hi, I'm in the middle of planning a Europe trip covering Ukraine, Poland, Czech, Slovakia and Hungary. I will post the whole Intinary here when it's done. (If you can advise me which thread it should go on please).
it really depends on who you want to go to.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AskanManchester on June 22, 2019, 10:02:30 PM
it really depends on who you want to go to.

Just need to know my options. Is there a Guesthouse? Or a place where you can pay a small ammount and are able to go with your wife?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AskanManchester on June 22, 2019, 10:04:58 PM
yes. You should go there for Shabbos. Better than uman imo

I've heard that from others but the boss wants Uman.  :-X
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on June 23, 2019, 02:37:07 AM
Just need to know my options. Is there a Guesthouse? Or a place where you can pay a small ammount and are able to go with your wife?
You haven't answered the question.
Which kevarim interest you? Once you figure that out, you can plan your route and know where you need to find a place to stay.
I've heard that from others but the boss wants Uman.  :-X
That means you need to work harder. Medzybizh is one of the most peaceful places I've been to. The atmosphere is just so calm. You can literally just sit there all day do nothing and be fine with it.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AskanManchester on June 23, 2019, 05:16:01 AM
You haven't answered the question.
Which kevarim interest you? Once you figure that out, you can plan your route and know where you need to find a place to stay. That means you need to work harder. Medzybizh is one of the most peaceful places I've been to. The atmosphere is just so calm. You can literally just sit there all day do nothing and be fine with it.

I don't need help with my Intinary atm. I'm working on that and will post my work on here when it's done for advice and criticism. My wife is from a Breslov family...I'm not going to win this one. My current focus is keeping Shabbos in Uman way cheaper then close to $200 a person.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: chff on June 23, 2019, 08:23:49 AM
I don't need help with my Intinary atm. I'm working on that and will post my work on here when it's done for advice and criticism. My wife is from a Breslov family...I'm not going to win this one. My current focus is keeping Shabbos in Uman way cheaper then close to $200 a person.
How much is Choshen or V Hotel for a weekend?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AskanManchester on June 23, 2019, 01:18:19 PM
How much is Choshen or V Hotel for a weekend?

Choshen was about $200 including food per person.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AskanManchester on June 25, 2019, 07:53:52 AM
How much is Choshen or V Hotel for a weekend?

V Hotel is $250 a couple for Shabbos. It is under the Hashgocha of R Meir Sirota - there seems to be mixed feelings about buying his hechsher.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: AskanManchester on June 25, 2019, 07:57:04 AM
Is there any hotel near the kever of the BESH"T in Medzybyz? Holiness won't know if he has space on a Motzei Shabbos.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: normaly on July 21, 2019, 10:36:28 PM
Anyone have info on a driver from Moscow to lubavitch?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on July 21, 2019, 11:07:33 PM
Anyone have info on a driver from Moscow to lubavitch?

Uber?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on August 05, 2019, 08:44:52 PM
I left a tehillim of great sentimental value in Anopoli.
Please PM if you will be visiting.
TIA!
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on August 18, 2019, 10:58:28 PM
I left a tehillim of great sentimental value in Anopoli.
Please PM if you will be visiting.
TIA!
You can try to contact Yisroel Meir Gabai +380 93 148 2222, he should have someone there that can help.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ellen on August 26, 2019, 04:31:06 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/VIN,+Vinnytsia+Oblast,+Ukraine/Murafa,+Vinnytsia+Oblast,+Ukraine,+23530/Berdychiv,+Zhytomyr+Oblast,+Ukraine/Medzhybizh,+Khmelnytskyi+Oblast,+Ukraine/Uman',+Cherkasy+Oblast,+Ukraine/Kiev,+Kyiv+city,+Ukraine/@49.5881967,27.844533,8z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m38!4m37!1m5!1m1!1s0x472d4ff80fd9a1c1:0x4820e6636f2f9555!2m2!1d28.6058666!2d49.2422456!1m5!1m1!1s0x4732c99d05ce3465:0x8996bd0ea693736!2m2!1d28.2155078!2d48.7730858!1m5!1m1!1s0x472cf987459e4d1f:0xfed4d70ca7c66999!2m2!1d28.5900313!2d49.9106591!1m5!1m1!1s0x472d8b6ae57c8f1b:0xca6bc8e80fa9778!2m2!1d27.4042153!2d49.4389042!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d20dbb89bbb1d7:0x48312c80d42f9951!2m2!1d30.2154406!2d48.7699292!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d4cf4ee15a4505:0x764931d2170146fe!2m2!1d30.5234!2d50.4501!3e0

Starting on Thursday, staying the night in Berdichev, then Mehibiz for shabbos, Sunday to Uman and dropoff in Kiev.
How much should a driver for this itinerary cost? I was quoted $500. Does that sound right?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on August 26, 2019, 10:23:25 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/VIN,+Vinnytsia+Oblast,+Ukraine/Murafa,+Vinnytsia+Oblast,+Ukraine,+23530/Berdychiv,+Zhytomyr+Oblast,+Ukraine/Medzhybizh,+Khmelnytskyi+Oblast,+Ukraine/Uman',+Cherkasy+Oblast,+Ukraine/Kiev,+Kyiv+city,+Ukraine/@49.5881967,27.844533,8z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m38!4m37!1m5!1m1!1s0x472d4ff80fd9a1c1:0x4820e6636f2f9555!2m2!1d28.6058666!2d49.2422456!1m5!1m1!1s0x4732c99d05ce3465:0x8996bd0ea693736!2m2!1d28.2155078!2d48.7730858!1m5!1m1!1s0x472cf987459e4d1f:0xfed4d70ca7c66999!2m2!1d28.5900313!2d49.9106591!1m5!1m1!1s0x472d8b6ae57c8f1b:0xca6bc8e80fa9778!2m2!1d27.4042153!2d49.4389042!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d20dbb89bbb1d7:0x48312c80d42f9951!2m2!1d30.2154406!2d48.7699292!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d4cf4ee15a4505:0x764931d2170146fe!2m2!1d30.5234!2d50.4501!3e0

Starting on Thursday, staying the night in Berdichev, then Mehibiz for shabbos, Sunday to Uman and dropoff in Kiev.
How much should a driver for this itinerary cost? I was quoted $500. Does that sound right?
Does not sound right at all. Should be about $220 for a basic car and about $300 for an upgraded car plus about $10 per night for lodging for the driver if needed.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ellen on August 28, 2019, 03:56:50 PM
Does not sound right at all. Should be about $220 for a basic car and about $300 for an upgraded car plus about $10 per night for lodging for the driver if needed.
Who's price sheet is the one you attached?
Poyecheli ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on August 29, 2019, 07:13:35 AM
Who's price sheet is the one you attached?
Poyecheli ?
Yes, Uman Express prices are about the same.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 29, 2019, 05:03:23 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/VIN,+Vinnytsia+Oblast,+Ukraine/Murafa,+Vinnytsia+Oblast,+Ukraine,+23530/Berdychiv,+Zhytomyr+Oblast,+Ukraine/Medzhybizh,+Khmelnytskyi+Oblast,+Ukraine/Uman',+Cherkasy+Oblast,+Ukraine/Kiev,+Kyiv+city,+Ukraine/@49.5881967,27.844533,8z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m38!4m37!1m5!1m1!1s0x472d4ff80fd9a1c1:0x4820e6636f2f9555!2m2!1d28.6058666!2d49.2422456!1m5!1m1!1s0x4732c99d05ce3465:0x8996bd0ea693736!2m2!1d28.2155078!2d48.7730858!1m5!1m1!1s0x472cf987459e4d1f:0xfed4d70ca7c66999!2m2!1d28.5900313!2d49.9106591!1m5!1m1!1s0x472d8b6ae57c8f1b:0xca6bc8e80fa9778!2m2!1d27.4042153!2d49.4389042!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d20dbb89bbb1d7:0x48312c80d42f9951!2m2!1d30.2154406!2d48.7699292!1m5!1m1!1s0x40d4cf4ee15a4505:0x764931d2170146fe!2m2!1d30.5234!2d50.4501!3e0

Starting on Thursday, staying the night in Berdichev, then Mehibiz for shabbos, Sunday to Uman and dropoff in Kiev.
How much should a driver for this itinerary cost? I was quoted $500. Does that sound right?
How many passengers? what kind of car? I can perhaps loan you one of my drivers.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ellen on August 29, 2019, 07:23:53 PM
How many passengers? what kind of car? I can perhaps loan you one of my drivers.
We are a couple.
A decent regular car is fine, no need for brand names.
What price range would that be?
This trip is in October.
Any other details you need?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 30, 2019, 05:16:14 AM
Does not sound right at all. Should be about $220 for a basic car and about $300 for an upgraded car plus about $10 per night for lodging for the driver if needed.
I doubt you would find someone willing to take you for those prices a day after rosh hashana.

The average going rate hovers around $0.40/km X 900km (rounded up) would put you at $360 (not including lodging etc) which is a normal price to pay for off-season.
Until Monday 10/7, drivers can earn $400-$1200 per day just doing Uman-KBP/ODS runs.
If you were quoted $500 for a decent car with waiting and lodging included, I would take it.

If you are looking to save, consider letting the driver go in mezhibuzh, there is a 90% chance you will be able to find spots in someone else's van/bus from Mezhibuzh to Uman, then again from Uman to KBP (or pay the $35 and get on a shuttle)

Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on August 30, 2019, 09:13:55 AM
I doubt you would find someone willing to take you for those prices a day after rosh hashana.

The average going rate hovers around $0.40/km X 900km (rounded up) would put you at $360 (not including lodging etc) which is a normal price to pay for off-season.
Until Monday 10/7, drivers can earn $400-$1200 per day just doing Uman-KBP/ODS runs.
If you were quoted $500 for a decent car with waiting and lodging included, I would take it.

If you are looking to save, consider letting the driver go in mezhibuzh, there is a 90% chance you will be able to find spots in someone else's van/bus from Mezhibuzh to Uman, then again from Uman to KBP (or pay the $35 and get on a shuttle)
I didn't know he's talking about a day after Rosh Hashana. But throughout the year, Poyechali/Uman Express charge $.18 a km for a basic car and $.25 for an upgraded car and you also have to pay for the kilometers for the driver to come pick you up and to go back after he drops you off, therefore I counted about 1,200 km for this trip.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on August 30, 2019, 02:37:12 PM
I didn't know he's talking about a day after Rosh Hashana. But throughout the year, Poyechali/Uman Express charge $.18 a km for a basic car and $.25 for an upgraded car and you also have to pay for the kilometers for the driver to come pick you up and to go back after he drops you off, therefore I counted about 1,200 km for this trip.
That's why I estimate at $0.40/km
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Luvtotravel on September 14, 2019, 09:28:07 PM
Im willing to pay for 8 people to complete minyan in kiev or kiev airport at 6 -7 am on october 23. Anyone interested?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on September 14, 2019, 09:39:50 PM
I left a tehillim of great sentimental value in Anopoli.
Please PM if you will be visiting.
TIA!
Bump
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 15, 2019, 06:18:50 AM
Bump
Is it lost, or do you just need someone to pick it up for you?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on September 16, 2019, 11:11:14 AM
Is it lost, or do you just need someone to pick it up for you?
I left it there.
The tehillim is distinct. So I am hoping it will be an easy find for whoever would go.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on September 26, 2019, 03:05:39 AM
I left a tehillim of great sentimental value in Anopoli.
Please PM if you will be visiting.
TIA!
Bump
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Dzla2 on October 02, 2019, 11:35:26 AM
W star alliance gold what is the nicest lounge in KBP
Preferably one w lounge ?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on October 10, 2019, 03:27:29 AM
I left a tehillim of great sentimental value in Anopoli.
Please PM if you will be visiting.
TIA!
Send me a pic of it if you have one, I can send to relevant parties.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ellen on November 03, 2019, 05:35:53 PM
I doubt you would find someone willing to take you for those prices a day after rosh hashana.

The average going rate hovers around $0.40/km X 900km (rounded up) would put you at $360 (not including lodging etc) which is a normal price to pay for off-season.
Until Monday 10/7, drivers can earn $400-$1200 per day just doing Uman-KBP/ODS runs.
If you were quoted $500 for a decent car with waiting and lodging included, I would take it.

If you are looking to save, consider letting the driver go in mezhibuzh, there is a 90% chance you will be able to find spots in someone else's van/bus from Mezhibuzh to Uman, then again from Uman to KBP (or pay the $35 and get on a shuttle)

Thanks for your advice. we ended up taking the guy I mentioned. He gave us a discount so it $470 for our itinerary (including some changes due to flight delays, etc). He actually had a beautiful Mecedes Vito and was extremely smooth on the road. Only downside was his lack of basic English. Overall we were very happy with him and would take him again.
Thanks again to everyone who tried helping out.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on November 05, 2019, 03:14:01 PM
Anyone here read Russian? Can you tell me what these captions say? TIA (sorry for the full page ad)
(https://i.ibb.co/T8f2pt0/AC53-C380-12-D8-4-A47-AB9-D-4-F164-E1-A9-C7-F.png) (https://ibb.co/PhLj3gW)
(https://i.ibb.co/280ccKy/37-CF5-CA9-4-AED-4-E67-9386-ABDE5-AA612-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/Fsk887K)
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on November 06, 2019, 06:58:06 AM
Anyone here read Russian? Can you tell me what these captions say? TIA (sorry for the full page ad)
(https://i.ibb.co/T8f2pt0/AC53-C380-12-D8-4-A47-AB9-D-4-F164-E1-A9-C7-F.png) (https://ibb.co/PhLj3gW)
(https://i.ibb.co/280ccKy/37-CF5-CA9-4-AED-4-E67-9386-ABDE5-AA612-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/Fsk887K)
ניגון צעדה עתיק "געגוכ למולדת".
עיבוד של דונייבסקי
 מנצח אנדרי קולוטושקין
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on November 06, 2019, 07:32:43 AM
ניגון צעדה עתיק "געגוכ למולדת".
עיבוד של דונייבסקי
 מנצח אנדרי קולוטושקין
thanks! Is this specifically Hebrew and not English?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Alexsei on November 06, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
thanks! Is this specifically Hebrew and not English?
I don't speak Russian (yet) I asked someone to translate
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Luvisrael on November 06, 2019, 09:13:42 AM
I don't speak Russian (yet) I asked someone to translate
thanks. U helped me
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 04, 2019, 02:07:23 PM
Anyone here been to Hoditch?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: nescafe on December 04, 2019, 10:41:51 PM
Anyone here been to Hoditch?
Yes
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 04, 2019, 11:05:01 PM
Yes
Worth it to stay for shabbos?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: nescafe on December 05, 2019, 12:28:26 AM
Worth it to stay for shabbos?
I wasn't there for shabbos so I can't answer that
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 05, 2019, 06:37:47 AM
Worth it to stay for shabbos?
Zhitomir is a cool place to stay for shabbos
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 08, 2019, 03:04:29 PM
Anyone have number for good affordable driver other than those in the wiki?
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on December 08, 2019, 09:22:02 PM
Anyone have number for good affordable driver other than those in the wiki?
Sasha has good drivers.
He charges more cpkm than Poyechali and UmanEx though:
scetinin@gmail.com
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: ckmk47 on December 20, 2019, 10:36:29 AM

Moscow
Visa- You need a visa to go to Russia.  For Americans, it cost $300 (plus expediter fee) for a visa that is valid for 3 years. After submission, it takes more than 2 weeks to get.
Taxi- A regular cab can easily rip off a tourist in Moscow.  In advance, we were also told by locals to download Yandak Taxi.  When trying to use Uber, we were directed to that app.  I wasn’t able to input my credit card info, but it gave us a cash price that we paid to the driver.  The prices were great! A half hour ride across town was under 500 Rubels – less than $8.
Money changing- Find out the approximate exchange rate before you go, so you have an idea what to expect.  I didn’t use much cash, mostly credit cards, so I exchanged in my hotel.  The bank a few blocks away was giving a better rate, but for the small amount of difference, and the small amount of cash I used, it wasn’t worth bothering.
Weather -I went in December.  The weather stayed above freezing, although often it was overcast and dreary.    I brought a warm coat (LandsEnd rated to -35F) but didn’t need any additional outer clothes except my pockets and hood. Indoors it was warm everywhere I went. 
Water - I read before I went that the water may not always be safe to drink.  I brushed my teeth with sink water at the hotel, but only drank bottled water while I was there.

Hotel - We stayed at the Hotel Azimut Olympic.   Well priced.  Clean, reasonable size room, comfortable bed, hot shower, wifi, helpful staff.  It took about 20 minutes to walk to the Marina Roscha shul building.  I found the walk pleasant.  Moscow traffic patterns are such that driving to shul from Azimut took 5 minutes, while going back took closer to 10.
The Marina Roscha shul is an active local shul.  It has several minyanim for shachris.  Also has daily mincha and maariv.
The shul building has both milchig and flaishig restaurants with reasonable food.  It also has a mikvah and Judaica store.
Within a block or 2 of the shul, there are 2 kosher supermarkets that carry groceries for locals along with various prepared foods.  There is also at least 1 restaurant around the corner from the shul.
The Jewish Museum is a block from the Marina Roscha shul. It has a history of the Jews in Russia with emphasis on their persecution.  It is very well done, and worth going into. $7 -8.50

Getting to Lubavitch:  Since I was there with a group of people, we went by van with a stop in Smolensk to use the mikva and bathrooms.  I was told you can take a train from Moscow to Smolensk and drive (rent a car?) from there the 2 hours to Lubavitch. I don’t know if this is at all efficient, since I’ve only ever heard of people going all the way by car. Driving back to Moscow we only stopped at a gas station for bathrooms.   

Things to see (many of which I didn’t see): 
-Kremlin, the grounds and museum – I hear there’s a line at the door, so maybe buy tickets on line in advance.
-Red Square and the city center.  A nice walk.  They over-do the lights and street decorations for the year end and New Years season, so the streets were looking their best. You can get the history of the area and a better understanding of the buildings with a walking tour guide.  That’s true for most cities.
-Bunker 42 museum is a cold war bunker deep under ground.  Very interesting. Check the times for a tour in English; it is not the type of place you can just wander around.  Going during a Russian tour and using an English audioguide is a poor substitute.
-Arabat is the pedestrian mall shopping center.  Gum is another shopping center.
Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: KSMH on December 20, 2019, 12:25:12 PM
Thanks, Your only the 2nd TR fo Russia. Very informative.

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Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on January 01, 2020, 05:17:56 PM
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Title: Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
Post by: Ellen on February 19, 2020, 11:32:40 AM
Anyone know any details about a kosher summer hotel program in Carpathian mountains?