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Title: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:12:53 PM
Well, there's a master thread for star alliance search tips, here's the one for One World.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yaalili on November 10, 2012, 10:14:14 PM
Anyone wanna start skyteam? :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
First question:

If I book CX J on, say, 5/15/13, can I change to F on a different day without a fee as long as it's > 21 days?

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:16:17 PM
Anyone wanna start skyteam? :)

Done:

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=21836.0

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:27:10 PM
First question:

If I book CX J on, say, 5/15/13, can I change to F on a different day without a fee as long as it's > 21 days?

Found the answer on ft:

no charge for change of class of service regardless of how close. you can do it a couple of hours before take off if the space is there
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: YOSEF on November 10, 2012, 10:28:47 PM
First question:

If I book CX J on, say, 5/15/13, can I change to F on a different day without a fee as long as it's > 21 days?
I'm assuming you mean using AA miles, correct?

AFAIK, officially no, but I have had reps say that if its an upgrade in cabin, yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:41:43 PM
I'm assuming you mean using AA miles, correct?

AFAIK, officially no, but I have had reps say that if its an upgrade in cabin, yes.

Yes, using AA miles.

Consensus on FT seems to be no fee, ever for the above scenario. I guess if you get a bad rep, just HUCA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 10:52:52 PM
But you asked about a "change to F on a different day". I thought change of class was permitted, but change of date/time was subject to fee if you're not Gold.

As long as O/D remain the same, there is no fee for change of date with AA, regardless of status.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on November 11, 2012, 01:56:20 AM
AA rep told me an upgrade in class would be permitted and without a fee, but downgrading the class would not be possible at all (i guess he meant w/o  a change fee)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: gdam on November 11, 2012, 06:03:39 PM
AA rep told me an upgrade in class would be permitted and without a fee, but downgrading the class would not be possible at all (i guess he meant w/o  a change fee)

Correct. Downgrade is possible by cancelling with miles redeposit and rebooking.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 11, 2012, 10:47:29 PM
As long as O/D remain the same, there is no fee for change of date with AA, regardless of status.

Just to clarify, routing can change as long as O/D remain the same?

Thus, I can go from a stopover in J to a non-stop in F without fee as long as O/D remain the same?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 11, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
Anyway to force to Qantas search engine to return only non-stop flights?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 12, 2012, 08:41:32 PM
Just to clarify, routing can change as long as O/D remain the same?

Thus, I can go from a stopover in J to a non-stop in F without fee as long as O/D remain the same?

Anyway to force to Qantas search engine to return only non-stop flights?

Bump
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 16, 2012, 11:18:53 PM
Just to clarify, routing can change as long as O/D remain the same?

Thus, I can go from a stopover in J to a non-stop in F without fee as long as O/D remain the same?
Anyway to force to Qantas search engine to return only non-stop flights?

Anyone?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 10, 2013, 10:33:13 AM
Since this seems to be my thread anyway...

Any problem with routing USA-AUH-BKK/SIN on EY with AA miles?

And to confirm, it should be 67.5K OW, right?

http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/aadvantageAllPartnerChart.jsp#1

ETA: Ah, darn, don't I have to route via the Pacific if I'm going to Asia using AA miles?  >:(
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 10, 2013, 10:38:19 AM
Also, it looks as if that routing is a problem as I am transiting another (3rd) region that doesn't fit one of the exceptions...

Thus it seems one cannot fly EY to Asia using AA miles to/from USA. Bummer.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on January 10, 2013, 11:19:28 AM
Since this seems to be my thread anyway...

Any problem with routing USA-AUH-BKK/SIN on EY with AA miles?

And to confirm, it should be 67.5K OW, right?

http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/aadvantageAllPartnerChart.jsp#1

ETA: Ah, darn, don't I have to route via the Pacific if I'm going to Asia using AA miles?  >:(
That's what it looks like. 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 05:44:15 PM
Just to clarify, routing can change as long as O/D remain the same?

Thus, I can go from a stopover in J to a non-stop in F without fee as long as O/D remain the same?
Somewhat different, but they told me that changing carriers (at least btw OW and partner carriers) would incur a fee despite no change to O/D.
I requested to know where it says this, but they just told me to call in.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 10, 2013, 05:49:10 PM
Somewhat different, but they told me that changing carriers (at least btw OW and partner carriers) would incur a fee despite no change to O/D.
I requested to know where it says this, but they just told me to call in.

That's accurate.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on January 10, 2013, 05:52:09 PM
That's accurate.
Somewhat different, but they told me that changing carriers (at least btw OW and partner carriers) would incur a fee despite no change to O/D.
I requested to know where it says this, but they just told me to call in.
I was always under the impression that AA rules like UA that you could always change the date carrier and class without fee. But your saying that its not true?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 05:55:11 PM
That's accurate.
Why?
Listed rule?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 10, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
Why?

Because it's reality.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 11, 2013, 12:38:58 AM
Because it's reality.

I feel like a petulant 5 yr old when I continue asking why, but has no one been able to get then to show them the rule?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 11, 2013, 12:26:56 PM
I feel like a petulant 5 yr old when I continue asking why, but has no one been able to get then to show them the rule?

Do me a favor once your on this "show me the rule" escapade --

Find me the actual (read: official) routing rules for US Airways, American Airlines, United Airlines, and Delta.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 12, 2013, 11:45:08 AM
Do me a favor once your on this "show me the rule" escapade --

Find me the actual (read: official) routing rules for US Airways, American Airlines, United Airlines, and Delta.
Understood, but I'm sure you would agree with me that a list of fees and penalties should be complete so that when s/o books and then wants to change s/t based on the published list, that they don't have an unpleasant surprise.
The currently list around 2 or 3 fees, and adding this in isn't too complex.
Routing rules are a different beast due to the myriad complexities.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 12, 2013, 09:27:35 PM
I hear. Though the ambiguity often works in favor of those "in the know."
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 13, 2013, 01:15:51 AM
I hear. Though the ambiguity often works in favor of those "in the know."
With routing rules, definitely.
With hidden fees, not so much.

Any chance that if I did this and was hit with the fee that I could challenge it w/ my CC company? Or once I agree, I have no chance?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 13, 2013, 11:28:35 AM
With routing rules, definitely.
With hidden fees, not so much.

Any chance that if I did this and was hit with the fee that I could challenge it w/ my CC company? Or once I agree, I have no chance?

Again, I hear, but still, if the fact that there is no published list leads to some agents charging and some not, I'd say we're better off.

You can always challenge, the question is if you'd win. But, generally, no, agreeing to a charge (which I'll term "under duress") does not negate your option of filing a charge back.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 13, 2013, 01:04:56 PM
You can always challenge, the question is if you'd win. But, generally, no, agreeing to a charge (which I'll term "under duress") does not negate your option of filing a charge back.
If it comes down to it, what's your billing rate?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 13, 2013, 05:22:46 PM
If it comes down to it, what's your billing rate?

Depends on the client :P

But in no event less than $250/hour.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 21, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
This may be better asked/researched on FT, but does anyone know the standby policy for CX?

I'm on a HKG-BKK flight on X date at Y time, and would love to go on X date but Z date (earlier or later than Y time).

FWIW, it's booked with BA miles.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SGF on May 06, 2013, 12:38:28 AM
any way to avoid the $25 booking fee with AA?
i am booking with AA miles a flight with LAN and it can only be done over the phone, they still charge a fee even if it cannot be done online even for AA platinums.
supervisor wont help.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 06, 2013, 07:38:26 AM
any way to avoid the $25 booking fee with AA?
i am booking with AA miles a flight with LAN and it can only be done over the phone, they still charge a fee even if it cannot be done online even for AA platinums.
supervisor wont help.
HUCA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SGF on May 06, 2013, 12:10:57 PM
HUCA
Did that 4 times already, maybe I'll have to do some more.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 13, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
Does that make sense?
Using AA miles NYC-TLV through LHR is 80k one way in J?
What's wrong here?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 13, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
Does that make sense?
Yes
Using AA miles NYC-TLV through LHR is 80k one way in J?
Yes
What's wrong here?
Nothing
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 02:01:47 PM
Using AA miles NYC-TLV through LHR is 80k one way in J?
More or less than 24 hours in LHR?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 13, 2013, 02:04:28 PM
YesYesNothing
Man, that's alot.
But that's not in accordence with this chart (http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/aadvantageAllPartnerChart.jsp)
??
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 13, 2013, 02:10:05 PM
Man, that's alot.
But that's not in accordence with this chart (http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/aadvantageAllPartnerChart.jsp)
??

USA-EU = 50K in J plus EU-TLV = 30K in J

80K pricing as two awards, likely because your LHR portion is viewed as a stopover.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 13, 2013, 02:11:18 PM
Man, that's alot.
But that's not in accordence with this chart (http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/aadvantageAllPartnerChart.jsp)
??
Scratch what I said.

It should be 67.5K if there is less than a 24 hour stop over.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 02:12:16 PM
USA-EU = 50K in J plus EU-TLV = 30K in J

80K pricing as two awards, likely because your LHR portion is viewed as a stopover.
Bingo.

More or less than 24 hours in LHR?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 13, 2013, 02:53:27 PM
More or less than 24 hours in LHR?
Right.
Thanks.

Scratch what I said.

It should be 67.5K if there is less than a 24 hour stop over.
Funny, after I fixed the date to <24hrs it prices for 70k.
But 2.5 AA בני ובינך מה היא, not gonna make an issue about it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 13, 2013, 02:56:41 PM
Funny, after I fixed the date to <24hrs it prices for 70k.
But 2.5 AA בני ובינך מה היא, not gonna make an issue about it.
Screenshot?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 13, 2013, 03:00:21 PM
Screenshot?
My second mistake in one day.

Scratch what I said.

What happened to the old good meshugener??
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2013, 05:34:59 PM
If O/D remain the same, is there any change fee for changing routing/partners with AA miles?

(Also, mods, can we get this stickied, like the *A thread?)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on November 11, 2013, 08:50:41 PM

(Also, mods, can we get this stickied, like the *A thread?)
+1
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 12, 2013, 04:12:33 AM
If O/D remain the same, is there any change fee for changing routing/partners with AA miles?
Didn't we have a passionate argument about this topic earlier in this thread?

Somewhat different, but they told me that changing carriers (at least btw OW and partner carriers) would incur a fee despite no change to O/D.
I requested to know where it says this, but they just told me to call in.

That's accurate.

Etc.

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 12, 2013, 08:19:35 AM
Yeah, I've since confirmed same again. 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ayman on December 02, 2013, 07:40:53 PM
Can I book a BA award ticket with a stopover online?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 03, 2013, 03:41:32 AM
Can I book a BA award ticket with a stopover online?
Yup.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on December 05, 2013, 02:27:16 PM
does anybody know if aa flies from CLE to YUL? dont seem to be able to find anything using BA or searching ita etc TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 12, 2013, 03:29:09 PM
It does not fly non-stop, no.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on December 12, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
does anybody know if aa flies from CLE to YUL? dont seem to be able to find anything using BA or searching ita etc TIA
Woul have to be via LGA, JFK, or ORD.
PUTPAC or book as sep tickets.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on December 13, 2013, 03:13:47 AM
united has a monopoly here...i didnt find anything under $700 or 35000 points and $133 in taxes and fees...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 13, 2013, 05:08:37 AM
united has a monopoly here...i didnt find anything under $700 or 35000 points and $133 in taxes and fees...
Did you try a hidden city yet?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on December 13, 2013, 10:00:42 AM
united has a monopoly here...i didnt find anything under $700 or 35000 points and $133 in taxes and fees...
Taxes and fees is $58 you'll pay on all flights from Canada. Other $75 is close in booking fee.
Should be 20k united points of you find low availability
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 14, 2014, 11:58:46 AM
I'm looking for a flight with AA using BA Avios from EWR(or NYC) to BUF and nothing comes up at all. Do they fly this route? I'm trying to go from EWR to Toronto but need a rental so thought it would be a lot cheaper going to BUF and renting in the US then in YYZ(also saves the $55 on the return). Any ideas? Thanx
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 05, 2014, 05:08:54 PM
After trying to put together a OneWorld Explorer for 2 days, I have found that I can only truly find award availability by calling AA. aa.com won't display all partner airlines. ITA has been a letdown as each time I find a flight there that technically works, there's no availability when I call AA. Any ideas for searching for award avail other than calling? It's so much easier to search on your own.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2014, 05:09:26 PM
KVS
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 05, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
KVS

Will download it! Thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deusconsilio on February 05, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
KVS

It worth the cost?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2014, 05:22:05 PM
Depends on how often one needs it.

"Worth" is impossible to define for someone else :P
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 05, 2014, 05:28:04 PM
Depends on how often one needs it.

"Worth" is impossible to define for someone else :P
+1
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 05, 2014, 11:26:04 PM
It worth the cost?
Didn't get a chance to download it yet and didn't realize there's a cost. Hmmm
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 05, 2014, 11:30:12 PM
Oh it's only $20 for 2 months at the Diamond level. That's really not too bad. If it gets too tiring trying to book the Explorer award on the phone, I may buy this. AJK, do you find that it's accurate?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2014, 11:33:32 PM
It's accurate.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2014, 11:44:45 PM
ANX is much more useful for an explorer award but it will cost you some nice dough.

KVS just scrapes public data. So does ANX but it will do the heavy lifting for you.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 05, 2014, 11:52:08 PM
ANX?
ETA, I'm assuming Award Nexus?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 12:04:03 AM
Ya. Was priceless for my OWE award.
Then again it was free back then and I would have racked up an obscene bill at today's rates.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 06, 2014, 12:18:40 AM
Yeah, not a fan of their points based system either. And they are not cheap.

I also find that it sometimes doesn't show availability that shows when searching the website directly. Not worth the $. IMHO
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 06, 2014, 12:25:15 AM
Oy wonderful. On the phone with AA now. UA agents have much more personality. It's beyond frustrating that they can only search one airline at a time.

Here's what I've got: The main OW partners in Europe are BA, IB, AB so travelling to different cities in Europe requires going back to LHR on almost every leg. For ex. I can get TLV-MAD-BCN-LHR but then when I want to go to CDG, AMS, BRU, ZRH, VCE, FCO, etc I have to keep going LHR-X-LHR before going on to the next city. Unless I'm missing something...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on February 06, 2014, 01:09:27 AM
You could fly via mad, bcn, vie, txl, muc, cgn, All with one world.
As air Berlin, niki and Iberia are partners too.
You could fly with elal if you are using aa miles
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on February 06, 2014, 08:49:56 AM
You've got the same conversation going on in both threads, and my lil 'ol head spins trying to keep track of both.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on February 06, 2014, 08:52:55 AM
You could fly via mad, bcn, vie, txl, muc, cgn, All with one world.
As air Berlin, niki and Iberia are partners too.
You could fly with elal if you are using aa miles
Also FinnAir.
And he wants to build an Explorer ticket, so I don't think that LY is doable since they're not OW.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deal boy on February 06, 2014, 09:04:48 AM
can i add a stop over in europe if booking with aa miles
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 06, 2014, 09:08:17 AM
can i add a stop over in europe if booking with aa miles
With an Explorer award, you have unlimited stopovers.
With a regular AA award, you can only stopover at the N American gateway city.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 06, 2014, 12:34:32 PM
You've got the same conversation going on in both threads, and my lil 'ol head spins trying to keep track of both.

Sorry Drago lol. I started here just to see if there were any online svcs to find OW avail. Back to my thread now. :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deal boy on February 06, 2014, 01:51:07 PM
With an Explorer award, you have unlimited stopovers.
With a regular AA award, you can only stopover at the N American gateway city.
whats a n american gateway -if i want to go to la for 2nd day yom tov but to ny for first days then can i just make a stop over from paris in ny then continue to la then from la back to paris ??
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 06, 2014, 01:54:07 PM
Can stop in last NA city you leave from, or the first NA city you arrive in.

Example: CDG-NYC(stop)-LAX or LAX-ORD(stop)-CDG
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deal boy on February 06, 2014, 04:55:10 PM
i finally found a flight that is good for me with miles on aa through ba but the fees re 444$ is there any way to get around those?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 06, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
Don't fly BA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 07, 2014, 12:38:30 AM
Can stop in last NA city you leave from, or the first NA city you arrive in.

Example: CDG-NYC(stop)-LAX or LAX-ORD(stop)-CDG
Or NYC-LAX(Stop)-LHR :P
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on February 07, 2014, 12:43:49 AM
Or NYC-LAX(Stop)-LHR :P
They will let that through? Or just HUCA until you get it?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 07, 2014, 12:56:40 AM
They will let that through? Or just HUCA until you get it?
The definition of gateway cities is very broad.  ;)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on February 07, 2014, 12:57:44 AM
The definition of gateway cities is very broad.  ;)
-1
The definition of gateway city is the city you depart north America from
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 07, 2014, 01:32:48 AM
-1
The definition of gateway city is the city you depart north America from
Exactly. That gateway city can be any city in the US, regardless of of the final destination. Backtracking is no issue.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 07, 2014, 02:02:35 AM
Bookable on AA.com.

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deusconsilio on February 07, 2014, 07:05:03 AM
Best way to book first class NYC-PER using AA points?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 07, 2014, 10:03:11 AM
Best way to book first class NYC-PER using AA points?
AA.com? Looks like that flights exists on June 30th and it's business/first b/c there are only 2 cabins.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deusconsilio on February 07, 2014, 10:54:03 AM
AA.com? Looks like that flights exists on June 30th and it's business/first b/c there are only 2 cabins.

I know about AA.com obviously. My question is more if there is an ideal way to route the flight in order to increase availability, or get 3 cabin plane, etc

Thanks though
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 07, 2014, 10:58:22 AM
I know about AA.com obviously. My question is more if there is an ideal way to route the flight in order to increase availability, or get 3 cabin plane, etc

Thanks though

Unless you're willing to pay for one of the programs mentioned above in the thread, the only way to see better availability is by calling AA, as they can see more airlines on their end. Ex, aa.com won't show IB flight avail. My suggestions is to use ITA to see which airlines from OW (use routing code / alliance oneworld ) take that route on first class on the day you want to go and then call AA and tell them to look up that flight and see if there's any avail.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deusconsilio on February 10, 2014, 07:08:54 AM
Unless you're willing to pay for one of the programs mentioned above in the thread, the only way to see better availability is by calling AA, as they can see more airlines on their end. Ex, aa.com won't show IB flight avail. My suggestions is to use ITA to see which airlines from OW (use routing code / alliance oneworld ) take that route on first class on the day you want to go and then call AA and tell them to look up that flight and see if there's any avail.

Thanks!  One question: what is ITA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 10, 2014, 09:40:11 AM
You can read about it here http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24628 (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24628) and here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17085.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17085.0)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 10, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
You can read about it here http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24628 (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/24628) and here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17085.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17085.0)
Been looking for these thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 11, 2014, 05:55:50 PM
I'm looking to book AA with BA miles from ORD to NYC on 3/4 and the latest flight that shows up is at 2:45pm is there any flights later than this? Want something leaving around 5ish. TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 11, 2014, 06:02:51 PM
I'm looking to book AA with BA miles from ORD to NYC on 3/4 and the latest flight that shows up is at 2:45pm is there any flights later than this? Want something leaving around 5ish. TIA
BA only shows first 9 flights of the day.
Need to PUTPAC to book later flights.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 11, 2014, 06:04:49 PM
You serious?? Wow! I never knew that. Is there any way to do it with out PUTPAC?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on February 12, 2014, 01:48:04 AM
You serious?? Wow! I never knew that. Is there any way to do it with out PUTPAC?

Might help to search by individual airport instead of entire city area, for example instead of searching NYC put in LGA.
Other than that,I don't think there is a way.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 13, 2014, 02:01:58 AM
When searching Cathay Pacific on BA it does not show up anything for LHR-HKG???

I know they show availability NYC-HKG....
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 20, 2014, 05:53:05 PM
whats the the most efficient way to search Air Berlin flights(that will be available on BA avios site) nyc to tel aviv?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 20, 2014, 05:56:11 PM
whats the the most efficient way to search Air Berlin flights(that will be available on BA avios site) nyc to tel aviv?
Qantas. By segments.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on February 20, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
whats the the most efficient way to search Air Berlin flights(that will be available on BA avios site) nyc to tel aviv?

AA or Quantas
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 20, 2014, 07:34:46 PM
Air Berlin doesn't show award availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 21, 2014, 09:21:32 AM
AA or Quantas

I believe Dan earlier said AA is no good because it shows "phantom flights"?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 21, 2014, 09:38:08 AM
I believe Dan earlier said AA is no good because it shows "phantom flights"?
Correct.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 21, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
Qantas. By segments.

do I need to set up a Qantas FF account
is there a certain category of Air Berlin flights  that i am looking for in order for them to appear on BA avios?
By segments you mean search each leg separately?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 21, 2014, 05:01:44 PM
do I need to set up a Qantas FF account
is there a certain category of Air Berlin flights  that i am looking for in order for them to appear on BA avios?
By segments you mean search each leg separately?
Yes.
No.
Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: intgesh on February 23, 2014, 02:06:10 PM
I was looking to go to Israel for the summer using Avios. When I applied for the BA card, ~Dec, there was availability on AB, though sparse. By the time the points posted to my account there wasn't any left (I've only searched on AA, not Qantas). Then on Feb 11, I was searching and voila! there were 2 tickets JFK-DUS-Tlv for late July! I promptly snatched them up, obviously. I'm still looking for the return portion, for which there seems nary an option for the entire month of August.
My question is, is there a pattern as to how AB releases their award availability? Are the two tickets that i found, which weren't there one day and were there the next, due to some other reason, such as a cancellation? Admittedly, I've never searched on QF, are they helpful in showing flights that DON'T show up on AA, or only in revealing the phantom flights on AA to be false?
Thank you.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dr Moose on February 23, 2014, 02:09:26 PM
Did you try searching segment by segment?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: intgesh on February 23, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
Did you try searching segment by segment?
As in DUS-NYC, TXL-NYC? Yes, I could do it in my sleep, I've searched so many times!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on February 23, 2014, 03:21:43 PM
Looking for a one way TLV-NYC In right after Purim in  Business lots of elal opening to Europe but cant find a single AA saver from any connecting cite.

Is it to late or too early?

only other decent option would be 2 stoops with AB and first 2 are not Business but still pay 67k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 23, 2014, 03:25:57 PM
Looking for a one way TLV-NYC In right after Purim in  Business lots of elal opening to Europe but cant find a single AA saver from any connecting cite.

Is it to late or too early?

only other decent option would be 2 stoops with AB and first 2 are not Business but still pay 67k
Did you call AA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on February 23, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
Did you call AA?

No
But is it possible I don't see on line availability but phone rep will see ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 23, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
Of course. Just tell them they shoul check all possibilities with stop overs, Jet, etc..
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on February 23, 2014, 05:02:07 PM
Of course. Just tell them they shoul check all possibilities with stop overs, Jet, etc..

nothing avl
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 23, 2014, 05:03:34 PM
You called?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on February 24, 2014, 01:08:27 PM
You called?

yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 09:19:55 AM
Yes.
No.
Yes.

Here is the problem and I have verified this with BA.  Just because there are AB flights showing on Qantas does not mean they are available for BA avios booking.  Qantas shows AB flights most days of the month; that does not mean they are all available on BA avios.  In fact very few are.  BA avios does not have to make every AB flight available for reward flights

So when we check on AA or Qantas and see AB flights that does not help in securing the flight.  I tried before booking AB flights with BA rep and he saw flight but said no award seats; so back to the original question how can one see AB flights that will be available on BA avios
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 25, 2014, 10:53:51 AM
Here is the problem and I have verified this with BA.  Just because there are AB flights showing on Qantas does not mean they are available for BA avios booking.  Qantas shows AB flights most days of the month; that does not mean they are all available on BA avios.  In fact very few are.  BA avios does not have to make every AB flight available for reward flights

So when we check on AA or Qantas and see AB flights that does not help in securing the flight.  I tried before booking AB flights with BA rep and he saw flight but said no award seats; so back to the original question how can one see AB flights that will be available on BA avios
BS. DROPR. If it's available to partners like QF, it's available to BA. End of story. Just a question of finding the right rep who will book it for you. Did you ask for a long sell or speak to a supervisor?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 01:37:29 PM
BS. DROPR. If it's available to partners like QF, it's available to BA. End of story. Just a question of finding the right rep who will book it for you. Did you ask for a long sell or speak to a supervisor?

excuse me
what makes you so sure?  do you speak from experience?  Qantas shoes BA flights most days on the month in march for example.  BA avios does not have honor them.  AB award flights do not have to be released in the same capacity to BA and Qantas.

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 25, 2014, 01:45:06 PM
excuse me
what makes you so sure?  do you speak from experience?  Qantas shoes BA flights most days on the month in march for example.  BA avios does not have honor them.  AB award flights do not have to be released in the same capacity to BA and Qantas.
I don't understand you logic.
You come here ask questions from people more experienced than you. Comes a helpful knowledgeable DDFer and helps you. Now you don't trust him?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
I don't understand you logic.
You come here ask questions from people more experienced than you. Comes a helpful knowledgeable DDFer and helps you. Now you don't trust him?

Maybe tell me where I am going wrong. 
 I am speaking from experience.    I have called BA multiple times and they see the flights but tell me they don't have to honor other programs award flights.  If I argued without a basis you have a point. 

Maybe all the agents are wrong; that has happened before but if you search AA or Qantas there are plenty of of AB flights that appear but they do not appear on BA.  Then I call BA and they said no award availability.  I dont understand why we are assuming BA has to honor all other program's AB award flights.  How can we make BA honor these flights? that sounds difficult.  Please let me know what I am missing
if you had a experience please let me know.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 25, 2014, 02:08:52 PM
I don't understand you logic.
You come here ask questions from people more experienced than you. Comes a helpful knowledgeable DDFer and helps you. Now you don't trust him?
Valid point..... But is it an unheard of thing that a Airline releases some award availability to one partner and not to another?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 25, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
Interesting... Check NYC-CUN for March 7, on AA there is NO sAAver availability, and on BA there is 1 business seat available!!!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 25, 2014, 03:27:50 PM
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(http://gyazo.com/5a3d0697b2133ccc9da5603e7a3f3031.png)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 25, 2014, 03:35:13 PM
Now we need a Lawyer to explain what's going on.......
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 25, 2014, 03:39:15 PM
Just checked again. I see nothing.

Can you book it?

Anyone else see this business class flight as available?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 25, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
Just checked again. I see nothing.

Can you book it?

Anyone else see this business class flight as available?
Just checked no business availability for that day.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 25, 2014, 04:02:57 PM
Now we need a Lawyer to explain what's going on.......

Looks like we need a meshugener chassid to explain.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 25, 2014, 04:28:03 PM
Maybe tell me where I am going wrong. 
 I am speaking from experience.    I have called BA multiple times and they see the flights but tell me they don't have to honor other programs award flights.  If I argued without a basis you have a point. 

Maybe all the agents are wrong; that has happened before but if you search AA or Qantas there are plenty of of AB flights that appear but they do not appear on BA.  Then I call BA and they said no award availability.  I dont understand why we are assuming BA has to honor all other program's AB award flights.  How can we make BA honor these flights? that sounds difficult.  Please let me know what I am missing
if you had a experience please let me know.
I believe you an agent told you that. A agent once even told me I'm cute. So what? we all know: DROPR
All I can repeat what Jaywhy told you: it does not make sense.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 25, 2014, 04:29:15 PM
Looks like we need a meshugener chassid to explain.
Stop with your racism before I call the police.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 04:29:52 PM
Valid point..... But is it an unheard of thing that a Airline releases some award availability to one partner and not to another?
+1
why are we assuming award flight capacities are released equally to all partner airlines? could be many reasons why not. 
Anybody have any link/proof that award flights are released equally?  Any simple search of AB flights on BA vr QY or AA  will show they are not. 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 25, 2014, 04:30:11 PM
Stop with your racism before I call the police.
+1
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dr Moose on February 25, 2014, 04:42:33 PM
CMIIW, isn't LX F only bookable with LH ( or something like that) ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 25, 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Wrong thread.

But, LX F isn't bookable by anyone except M&M Elites.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 25, 2014, 04:43:55 PM
CMIIW, isn't LX F only bookable with LH ( or something like that) ?
Even LH miles (aka Miles & More) won't help you unless you have status.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2014, 04:44:26 PM
CMIIW, isn't LX F only bookable with LH ( or something like that) ?
Same mileage program.

why are we assuming award flight capacities are released equally to all partner airlines?
Because they are.  Each airline's own system limitations and blockings notwithstanding.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dr Moose on February 25, 2014, 04:50:16 PM
Wrong thread.

But, LX F isn't bookable by anyone except M&M Elites.
i was trying to prove that its possible that an airline only releases to a specific airline. but ...

Same mileage program.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 25, 2014, 04:59:29 PM
CMIIW, isn't LX F only bookable with LH ( or something like that) ?
What is LX F? and LH?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on February 25, 2014, 05:14:19 PM

What is LX F? and LH?

Oy oy oy

LX-Swiss  LH-Lufthansa. F-First
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2014, 05:18:25 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 25, 2014, 05:20:24 PM
Oy oy oy

LX-Swiss  LH-Lufthansa. F-First
Still learning all the abbreviations  :-\
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 25, 2014, 05:21:16 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0
Not all the airline codes and abbreviations are listed in that thread I've looked
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on February 25, 2014, 05:21:52 PM

Not all the airline codes and abbreviations are listed in that thread I've looked

GIYF
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 25, 2014, 05:22:03 PM
No offense but it sounds silly for you to be arguing with people who know their stuff
Who was I arguing with exactly?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2014, 05:22:18 PM
Not all the airline codes and abbreviations are listed in that thread I've looked
Sorry, meant to give you
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on February 25, 2014, 05:23:21 PM
Who was I arguing with exactly?
Sorry, my bad.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 25, 2014, 05:23:30 PM
GIYF
Google is not always so helpful with it but will check first for next time
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on February 25, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
Sorry, meant to give you
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0
Awesome! Thanks Dan
Sorry, my bad.
S'all good
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 06:01:38 PM
Same mileage program.
Because they are.  Each airline's own system limitations and blockings notwithstanding.

so back to my original question can I always get BA to book me AB flights that I see on QY and AA Milessaver?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
QF, sure.
Might take several PUTPACs.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 25, 2014, 06:13:53 PM

Might take several PUTPACs.
= 5 hours  :P
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 25, 2014, 06:18:43 PM
Same mileage program.
Because they are.  Each airline's own system limitations and blockings notwithstanding.
Why will EK release some F to JAL and not to AS?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 25, 2014, 06:29:44 PM
Read the quote again.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 25, 2014, 07:30:16 PM
Why will EK release some F to JAL and not to AS?
They release it to all, just the question if the airline isn't blocking it.

Way OT - Needed LGA-ORD-DLH on UA booking with AC.

Online, AC didn't show the ORD-DLH leg and when I called they saw that leg, but not the LGA-ORD.

Booked LGA-ORD online and the rep added the ORD-DLH leg.

Anything can happen.



Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 25, 2014, 09:29:23 PM
Why will EK release some F to JAL and not to AS?
That's because AS seems to block certain cabins on certain routes if they don't have AS metal leg attached.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 25, 2014, 09:51:03 PM
That's because AS seems to block certain cabins on certain routes if they don't have AS metal leg attached.
Block or bug?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 12:53:48 AM
Will I be able to book Cathay Pacific (90K RT in J, as per the US award chart) with US miles after 3/31? Same question goes for all other AA partners, will I be able to book them with US airways miles with their current award chart?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bb1836 on February 26, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
im trying to find a flight from BWI to DTW using Avios. nothing is coming up on BA.com cuz AA doesn't fly direct. even with a stopover in PHL however, which AA does do, i still cant seem to get a positive search result. can someone pls direct in this process? TIA for your help!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 09:03:47 PM
im trying to find a flight from BWI to DTW using Avios. nothing is coming up on BA.com cuz AA doesn't fly direct. even with a stopover in PHL however, which AA does do, i still cant seem to get a positive search result. can someone pls direct in this process? TIA for your help!
PUTPAC.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bb1836 on February 26, 2014, 09:04:19 PM
PUTPAC.
PUTPAC who? AA or BA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 09:07:43 PM
PUTPAC who? AA or BA?
BA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 28, 2014, 11:06:39 AM
What's the best way to search for flights using BA avios to TLV with AB or IB? On the BA site I've never been successful. TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 28, 2014, 12:47:49 PM
What's the best way to search for flights using BA avios to TLV with AB or IB? On the BA site I've never been successful. TIA
AA or Qantas.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 28, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
Do I need an account with miles to search?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 28, 2014, 02:04:39 PM
Do I need an account with miles to search?
No. For QF, you need an account.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: intgesh on February 28, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
I was looking to go to Israel for the summer using Avios. When I applied for the BA card, ~Dec, there was availability on AB, though sparse. By the time the points posted to my account there wasn't any left (I've only searched on AA, not Qantas). Then on Feb 11, I was searching and voila! there were 2 tickets JFK-DUS-Tlv for late July! I promptly snatched them up, obviously. I'm still looking for the return portion, for which there seems nary an option for the entire month of August.
My question is, is there a pattern as to how AB releases their award availability? Are the two tickets that i found, which weren't there one day and were there the next, due to some other reason, such as a cancellation? Admittedly, I've never searched on QF, are they helpful in showing flights that DON'T show up on AA, or only in revealing the phantom flights on AA to be false?
Thank you.
BUMP
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on February 28, 2014, 04:02:31 PM
BUMP
No pattern on how AB releases award availability. Just got to keep checking
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on March 18, 2014, 09:39:13 PM
Can you change a CX C award to F within 24 hours of the flight if you booked using Avios?

If not, my deadline is 1:30 tonight and it's not open yet.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on March 25, 2014, 08:46:31 PM
If routing LAX-JFK(stop)-AUH with AA miles, what happens if I take the first leg but after a while in JFK realize I cannot take the second? Do they refund any of the miles or is it forfeited?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on March 26, 2014, 09:07:27 PM
Anyone know of a way to see expanded award availability, similar to how United 1K can?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on March 26, 2014, 09:08:10 PM
If routing LAX-JFK(stop)-AUH with AA miles, what happens if I take the first leg but after a while in JFK realize I cannot take the second? Do they refund any of the miles or is it forfeited?

Answer: Non-refundable.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on March 30, 2014, 04:49:39 PM
Any way to put a alert on a Niki TLV-VIE flight which currently has no award seats available?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on March 30, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
Any way to put a alert on a Niki TLV-VIE flight which currently has no award seats available?
WATT.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 30, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
Any way to put a alert on a Niki TLV-VIE flight which currently has no award seats available?
Expert flyer?

Note: Make sure they operate a flight on the day you're looking for availability. I was once looking for availability until I realized they don't operate TLV-VIE every day!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on March 30, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
Expert flyer sucks. Don't rely on them.
You just keep on checking.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 01, 2014, 05:08:10 PM
Anyway to search on AA.com NONSTOP award flights(phil to tlv) simliar to the option United.com has?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2014, 05:11:23 PM
Expert flyer sucks. Don't rely on them.
You just keep on checking.

Go on, I'm listening.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 01, 2014, 05:15:02 PM
Anyway to search on AA.com NONSTOP award flights(phil to tlv) simliar to the option United.com has?
Sure. When you see the dates with the green/blue boxes of availability, you can look on the right side and there should be a drop down for Connections or Non-Stop Only.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on April 01, 2014, 05:33:29 PM
Go on, I'm listening.
Is there anything specific you wish to say?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Is there anything specific you wish to say?

To say? No.

To hear? Possibly.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on April 01, 2014, 05:47:12 PM
To say? No.

To hear? Possibly.
Last week I set up alerts for LH F and never got alerted when they released seats. Only realized its available when I checked UA.com
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2014, 05:49:05 PM
Last week I set up alerts for LH F and never got alerted when they released seats. Only realized its available when I checked UA.com

EF stopped alerting on *A months ago.

http://www.expertflyer.com/page.jsp?page=star_changes.html
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 01, 2014, 05:50:05 PM
IME for UA  J they alerted me about 15 minutes after it opened up on UA.com
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on April 01, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
EF stopped alerting on *A months ago.

http://www.expertflyer.com/page.jsp?page=star_changes.html
Alerting and award search are two different things. They're still supposed to alert.

UA locked them out of searching space through the EF website.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2014, 06:46:03 PM
Alerting and award search are two different things. They're still supposed to alert.


-1
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on April 01, 2014, 07:13:36 PM
IME for UA  J they alerted me about 15 minutes after it opened up on UA.com
How long ago was that?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 01, 2014, 07:16:58 PM
How long ago was that?
Around July last year.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on April 02, 2014, 02:22:48 AM
WATT.
?

Expert flyer?

Note: Make sure they operate a flight on the day you're looking for availability. I was once looking for availability until I realized they don't operate TLV-VIE every day!
They don't appear to show this airline. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on April 02, 2014, 05:46:09 AM
after getting 100,000 AAdvantage points with citi AA card, what is the best way to redeem TLV-NYC-TLV. Is the best option El Al? I looked at American Reward flights from their site and they were atrocious, 20+ hours 2 connections :o no thanks !

Also, can I access any lounges if I go El Al route? Mine as well get bang-for-my-buck on that $250 AF!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 02, 2014, 09:16:21 AM
after getting 100,000 AAdvantage points with citi AA card, what is the best way to redeem TLV-NYC-TLV. Is the best option El Al? I looked at American Reward flights from their site and they were atrocious, 20+ hours 2 connections :o no thanks !

Also, can I access any lounges if I go El Al route? Mine as well get bang-for-my-buck on that $250 AF!

call AA and ask them to book you on EL AL
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 02, 2014, 09:18:34 AM
Sure. When you see the dates with the green/blue boxes of availability, you can look on the right side and there should be a drop down for Connections or Non-Stop Only.

Thank you

However I realize now why I did not see that before; for some reason sometimes the drop down box is there and sometimes not
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 09:27:23 AM
call AA and ask them to book you on EL AL
-1
100K won't be enough if you go on ElAl.

You should be booking the US flights from PHL. There's PLENTY of avail NYC-PHL-TLV.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 02, 2014, 09:30:13 AM
There's PLENTY of avail NYC-PHL-TLV.
In J? No.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 09:53:47 AM
In J? No.
I don't think OP asked for J.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 02, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
I don't think OP asked for J.
So 100k IS enough for a RT on ElAl.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
So 100k IS enough for a RT on ElAl.
Pretty sure ElAl is more than OW partners, last time
I called to check. But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 02, 2014, 12:45:15 PM
Yes, you're wrong :)

I think it's either 80 or 90k RT. Probabky 90k.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
Yes, you're wrong :)

I think it's either 80 or 90k RT. Probabky 90k.
:) No way it can be 80 if it's 90 online. But ya either way, most likely there'll be much more avail on these flights than on ElAl.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 02, 2014, 01:02:35 PM
LY availability is not bad. I would guess it's even better than US availability.
 
Just BTW J is 67,500 OW.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 01:04:49 PM
LY availability is not bad. I would guess it's even better then US availability.
 
Just BTW J is 67,500 OW.
Oh ok. Right.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 02, 2014, 03:47:03 PM
LY availability is not bad. I would guess it's even better than US availability.
 
Just BTW J is 67,500 OW.

+1
LY availability Economy is very good for NONSTOP flights compared to United, Delta and US airways
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 02, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
-1
100K won't be enough if you go on ElAl.

You should be booking the US flights from PHL. There's PLENTY of avail NYC-PHL-TLV.

what do you mean NYC-PHL-TLV?

US AIRWAYS flies from phil only no?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 02, 2014, 03:51:16 PM
what do you mean NYC-PHL-TLV?

US AIRWAYS flies from phil only no?
That means flying from NYC to PHL and then PHL to TLV. If it meant either NYC or PHL, it would have said NYC/PHL-TLV.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on April 02, 2014, 04:34:39 PM
LY availability is not bad. I would guess it's even better than US availability.
 
Just BTW J is 67,500 OW.

what is LY availability? How can I check EL AL availability? Obviously don't want to sit on the phone asking a rep which flights I can fly on with AAdvantage points. From what I saw on American's site each direction NYC / TLV is 45k miles economy, but again that was with 2 stops 20+ hrs.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 02, 2014, 06:02:21 PM
what is LY availability? How can I check EL AL availability? Obviously don't want to sit on the phone asking a rep which flights I can fly on with AAdvantage points. From what I saw on American's site each direction NYC / TLV is 45k miles economy, but again that was with 2 stops 20+ hrs.

call AA advantage and ask them to book you on El AL should be a lot of options .  i am assuming you are flying coach/economy?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 02, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
That means flying from NYC to PHL and then PHL to TLV. If it meant either NYC or PHL, it would have said NYC/PHL-TLV.

Us airways has such a route originating in nyc?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 02, 2014, 06:21:55 PM
Us airways has such a route originating in nyc?
If you wanna do US Airways, you have to do NYC-PHL-TLV.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @jack123 on April 02, 2014, 11:58:53 PM
general AA award question (hope its ok in this thread, didnt find a better one): do they care if you put a few different flights on hold to choose one of later - not trying to pull any shtick, just not sure between dates so putting both on hold for 5 days. will they care/ auto cancel? does it matter if on AA metal or not (mine are not)?
thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 12:03:07 AM
general AA award question (hope its ok in this thread, didnt find a better one): do they care if you put a few different flights on hold to choose one of later - not trying to pull any shtick, just not sure between dates so putting both on hold for 5 days. will they care/ auto cancel? does it matter if on AA metal or not (mine are not)?
thanks
I've kept many on hold at same time. Don't think they care. Even offered to cancel some once I realized I didn't need them, but I didn't save all the record locators, so I couldn't help them find them to cancel them. Felt bad for anyone else looking to book, but they become available after 5 days. Just be careful - IB flights can only be on hold for 24 hours.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @jack123 on April 03, 2014, 01:00:01 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on April 03, 2014, 01:42:18 AM
call AA advantage and ask them to book you on El AL should be a lot of options .  i am assuming you are flying coach/economy?

Yes, flying Economy. How many AAdvantage miles does a RT TLV-NYC via El Al cost? Also 90k?

- sorry for being a n00b but is LY short for El Al? I want to be cool like all of you someday  8)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 03, 2014, 01:56:23 AM
Yes, flying Economy. How many AAdvantage miles does a RT TLV-NYC via El Al cost? Also 90k?

- sorry for being a n00b but is LY short for El Al? I want to be cool like all of you someday  8)
Yes and yes  :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on April 03, 2014, 02:13:55 AM
I want to be cool like all of you someday  8)
Terrible choice for your future.
Our social lives have diminished 90% since we began.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on April 03, 2014, 02:19:11 AM
Terrible choice for your future.
Our social lives have diminished 90% since we began.
+a million
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on April 03, 2014, 07:06:31 AM
Terrible choice for your future.
Our social lives have diminished 90% since we began.

LOL I know it's consuming my brain...  I'm definitely addicted! :o
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on April 03, 2014, 08:24:43 AM
LOL I know it's consuming my brain...  I'm definitely addicted! :o

Not sure if you know, but most of us don't fly economy around here :) long way to go!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on April 03, 2014, 08:39:20 AM
Not sure if you know, but most of us don't fly economy around here :) long way to go!

I would totally be flying business-- but I am a student that tries to go back to the states every month, (have not paid for a flight yet, but only been in Israel 6 months...) so for me it's quantity and not quality.. when I have a big girl job I'll start flying like the pros  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on April 03, 2014, 09:33:29 AM
I'm trying to fly JFK - BWI on aa with ba miles. I never can find availability any tips?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 09:40:50 AM
I'm trying to fly JFK - BWI on aa with ba miles. I never can find availability any tips?
Looks like there is 1 flight daily at 4:29PM if you're insistent on JFK and BWI (no other area airports) and AA (not US). Found it on both aa.com and ba.com, so you must not be looking correctly. Tell me what you've done, and I can help correct where you need help.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 11:06:15 AM
Just began a wiki including information about the OneWorld Explorer award. Feel free to add :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on April 03, 2014, 11:30:15 AM
Just began a wiki including information about the OneWorld Explorer award. Feel free to add :)
Thanks. I would just add that when booking with Avios and you found availability on AA Saver you should check ba.com before calling up BA and waiting an hour on hold, because if it is available to book on ba.com and you call in they charge a over the phone booking fee. (I'm on mobile can't edit myself).
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
Thanks. I would just add that when booking with Avios and you found availability on AA Saver you should check ba.com before calling up BA and waiting an hour on hold, because if it is available to book on ba.com and you call in they charge a over the phone booking fee. (I'm on mobile can't edit myself).
Thanks, just edited it. From my iPhone :) But, that's okay bc the edit is in the same language/wording that the original was in, which is usually better for reading/understanding.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 03, 2014, 12:41:33 PM
That means flying from NYC to PHL and then PHL to TLV. If it meant either NYC or PHL, it would have said NYC/PHL-TLV.

can I book NYC-PHL-TLV with avios points as well?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on April 03, 2014, 12:41:53 PM
Looks like there is 1 flight daily at 4:29PM if you're insistent on JFK and BWI (no other area airports) and AA (not US). Found it on both aa.com and ba.com, so you must not be looking correctly. Tell me what you've done, and I can help correct where you need help.

I need a non stop flight @ 8pm or later going from jfk - BWI or DCA. When I search for fares it comes up DCA but no availability for avios.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on April 03, 2014, 12:45:37 PM
Thanks, just edited it. From my iPhone :) But, that's okay bc the edit is in the same language/wording that the original was in, which is usually better for reading/understanding.
Nicely done!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
can I book NYC-PHL-TLV with avios points as well?
Yes. Not sure how many it will be.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 12:56:34 PM
I need a non stop flight @ 8pm or later going from jfk - BWI or DCA. When I search for fares it comes up DCA but no availability for avios.
That exists on 4/9 at 9:30PM and likely on other dates as well. Just got to do a little searching.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 03, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
Yes. Not sure how many it will be.

by phone with BA  only? because on  BA website the only option they have for stopover is in London I can figure out how to limit search to this specific route on BA?

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 01:19:53 PM
by phone with BA  only? because on  BA website the only option they have for stopover is in London I can figure out how to limit search to this specific route on BA?
It's always easier to break up the legs. And then search for the harder-to-find one, here PHL-TLV. Based on AA.com, there are not that many flights left. Of course there are on Pesach, but that doesn't help. I don't see anything in May-June anymore, but 7/3 has one searchable on both AA.com and BA.com 30K Avios and $20.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 03, 2014, 03:46:11 PM
It's always easier to break up the legs. And then search for the harder-to-find one, here PHL-TLV. Based on AA.com, there are not that many flights left. Of course there are on Pesach, but that doesn't help. I don't see anything in May-June anymore, but 7/3 has one searchable on both AA.com and BA.com 30K Avios and $20.

 ???I guess I misunderstood you.  I thought in your original reply #192 you were offering an alternate and better(more availability) way of using AA miles by doing NYC-PHL-TLV route rather than PHL-TLV.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 04:16:40 PM
???I guess I misunderstood you.  I thought in your original reply #192 you were offering an alternate and better(more availability) way of using AA miles by doing NYC-PHL-TLV route rather than PHL-TLV.

I was referring to more avail by using US than by using LY.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 03, 2014, 04:22:01 PM
I was referring to more avail by using US than by using LY.

which you realize is not correct?  Way more availability calling AA for LY flights than US airways flights
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 03, 2014, 04:57:20 PM
which you realize is not correct?  Way more availability calling AA for LY flights than US airways flights
Yeah ilherman made that pretty clear last night. hehe

I guess I just didn't realize that with everyone always complaining about NYC-TLV avail. I just assumed LY never has any space.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 03, 2014, 05:12:36 PM
Yeah ilherman made that pretty clear last night. hehe

I guess I just didn't realize that with everyone always complaining about NYC-TLV avail. I just assumed LY never has any space.

yeah my 2 cents is that if you specifically need nonstop economy flights to TLV AA miles are the best
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 06, 2014, 12:15:09 AM
Anyone have experience getting AA to waive the $25 pax fee for phone reservations? Ticket was not bookable online, yet several CSRs have told me they won't waive it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on April 06, 2014, 12:29:19 AM
Anyone have experience getting AA to waive the $25 pax fee for phone reservations? Ticket was not bookable online, yet several CSRs have told me they won't waive it.
It's doable. Not as easy as UA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 06, 2014, 12:30:07 AM
It's doable. Not as easy as UA.
Thanks. Any suggestions for what to say other than, "I can't book this online, please waive it?"
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 06, 2014, 03:40:02 AM
Yeah.  Try "I can't book this online, please waive it."
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 06, 2014, 08:09:58 AM
Yeah.  Try "I can't book this online, please waive it."
If that was sarcastic, I didn't mean that exact wording obviously.
If it wasn't, I tried variations of that 3-4 times and nada.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 06, 2014, 09:25:46 AM
If that was sarcastic, I didn't mean that exact wording obviously.
If it wasn't, I tried variations of that 3-4 times and nada.
If it's really worth your time and effort, try a sup told me....
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 06, 2014, 10:30:28 AM
If it's really worth your time and effort, try a sup told me....
Ehh... http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=12784.0 ;)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 06, 2014, 08:27:31 PM
AS can't see all of CX.

Seems if it's available on BA then AS can see it, but if not even though on KVS and QF it's there, reps can't see it.

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 08, 2014, 09:22:11 AM
Dan has mentioned before I believe that BA website only displays nonstop flights but don't they also show AB flights nyc -tlv which always have a stop over?  Did he mean that BA website only displays nonstop us domestic flights ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 08, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
Dan has mentioned before I believe that BA website only displays nonstop flights but don't they also show AB flights nyc -tlv which always have a stop over?  Did he mean that BA website only displays nonstop us domestic flights ?
He said that they don't deserve a A+ for showing stopovers. That's all.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on April 08, 2014, 12:47:58 PM
He said that they don't deserve a A+ for showing stopovers. That's all.

so BA website show flights with stops both international and domestic routes? because when I searched flights on AA.com  there was both nonstop and flights with stopvers on same route and date but when I searched  BA for same dates and routes only the nonstop showed on BA website
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: aradisc on April 08, 2014, 10:03:30 PM
Is there a such thing as married segments on award tickets? There's a CX routing with a connection that I found using the KVS tool JL-OneWorld method that lists business award availablity for both segments of a one-way (HND-HKG-DXB) but the second flight does not have availability when searched by itself. I verified this is also searchable on the JL site. Is this phantom availability, or is it actually a married award pair?

I tried to book with AA over the phone but they said that they couldn't book it because there was no availability on the second segment. Even if potentially CX releases award space to JL that it doesn't give to everyone else, why would the second segment show no availability when searched individually on JL?

I ended up making other arrangements, but I'm curious for future reference whether this really exists and what I could tell the AA rep to book it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on April 08, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Is there a such thing as married segments on award tickets? There's a CX routing with a connection that I found using the KVS tool JL-OneWorld method that lists business award availablity for both segments of a one-way (HND-HKG-DXB) but the second flight does not have availability when searched by itself. I verified this is also searchable on the JL site. Is this phantom availability, or is it actually a married award pair?

I tried to book with AA over the phone but they said that they couldn't book it because there was no availability on the second segment. Even if potentially CX releases award space to JL that it doesn't give to everyone else, why would the second segment show no availability when searched individually on JL?

I ended up making other arrangements, but I'm curious for future reference whether this really exists and what I could tell the AA rep to book it.
Rare but it exists.
Especially with CX and EK.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 08, 2014, 10:16:18 PM
Is there a such thing as married segments on award tickets? There's a CX routing with a connection that I found using the KVS tool JL-OneWorld method that lists business award availablity for both segments of a one-way (HND-HKG-DXB) but the second flight does not have availability when searched by itself. I verified this is also searchable on the JL site. Is this phantom availability, or is it actually a married award pair?

I tried to book with AA over the phone but they said that they couldn't book it because there was no availability on the second segment. Even if potentially CX releases award space to JL that it doesn't give to everyone else, why would the second segment show no availability when searched individually on JL?

I ended up making other arrangements, but I'm curious for future reference whether this really exists and what I could tell the AA rep to book it.
With other airlines like KLM there is such a thing. So it's very possible that CX has the same policy.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DXD on April 09, 2014, 10:58:06 AM
Quick question for the group:

My wife and I are trying to price out an east Asia trip in June. We are looking to use oneworld for at least a part of it.

For travel within Asia, what are some suggested research avenues. AA.com doesn't show anything within Asia. BA.com actually shows quite a bit, but we would like to play with routing (i.e. see if we can get a 23 hour stopover somewhere on the way) instead of dealing with BA.com per segment pricing. Any other sites to look into?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on April 09, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
Quick question for the group:

My wife and I are trying to price out an east Asia trip in June. We are looking to use oneworld for at least a part of it.

For travel within Asia, what are some suggested research avenues. AA.com doesn't show anything within Asia. BA.com actually shows quite a bit, but we would like to play with routing (i.e. see if we can get a 23 hour stopover somewhere on the way) instead of dealing with BA.com per segment pricing. Any other sites to look into?

Thanks in advance!
Stopovers don't matter with BA. It's distance based per segment.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: aradisc on April 09, 2014, 06:29:53 PM
Rare but it exists.
Especially with CX and EK.

Any way to book these with AA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DXD on April 11, 2014, 12:16:58 PM
Stopovers don't matter with BA. It's distance based per segment.

Yes - correct. We are trying to do short stopovers (for instance last summer we booked Air Berlin with AA miles that had a 23.5 hour stopover in Berlin. Any other avenues besides aa.com for oneworld travel within Asia?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on April 26, 2014, 10:24:31 PM
Anyone flown Finnair A330 J?
How was?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 05, 2014, 01:06:13 AM
I know they are not a part of OW, but where can I search for Jet airways availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on May 05, 2014, 01:18:47 PM
AA wants to charge me 75$ fee for booking with 21 days of flight per passenger anyway to avoid fee?

also I am trying to find award flights from NYC, phl to TLV week of May 11 but not much success I have UA points, flying blue and avios it appears flights to israel are harder to find this week and next then flights from israel?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bobzilla on May 05, 2014, 01:22:54 PM

AA wants to charge me 75$ fee for booking with 21 days of flight per passenger anyway to avoid fee?


Try booking for a later date, then wait a few days and call to change the dates, they might not charge you...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DXD on May 05, 2014, 09:48:23 PM
Question about booking through AA - will the reps let me book by parts.

For example I am seeing SaverAward availability ORD -> CLT and then CLT -> BCN. However, when I search ORD -> BCN, I get nothing. Is there a way around it?

Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on May 05, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
Try booking for a later date, then wait a few days and call to change the dates, they might not charge you...
Very small chance it'll work, their system is hard coded to charge that fee :(
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dr Moose on May 05, 2014, 11:28:46 PM
Try booking for a later date, then wait a few days and call to change the dates, they might not charge you...
IINM there's also a fee to change a flight
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on May 06, 2014, 12:26:56 AM
IINM there's also a fee to change a flight
Change fee also only applies within the 21 days period,
(as long as the original departure & destination stays the same)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on May 12, 2014, 09:02:37 PM
whats the best way to search for cathay (yvr-jfk)?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 12, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
whats the best way to search for cathay (yvr-jfk)?
BA.com or Qantas.com
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 12, 2014, 09:23:33 PM
whats the best way to search for cathay (yvr-jfk)?
Asiamiles.com
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on May 13, 2014, 12:56:24 AM
BA.com or Qantas.com
ba is having some issues pulling up Cathay pacific online for the past few days
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 13, 2014, 01:03:08 AM
ba is having some issues pulling up Cathay pacific online for the past few days
They always had problems IME.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on May 13, 2014, 06:52:37 PM
thanks guys.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: farmbochur on May 16, 2014, 09:25:04 AM
Any speculation on when USAir and AA mileage accounts will become mergeable?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 16, 2014, 09:30:47 AM
Any speculation on when USAir and AA mileage accounts will become mergeable?
Gary speculates early 2015.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: farmbochur on May 16, 2014, 09:47:22 AM
Gary speculates early 2015.
link?
TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on May 19, 2014, 04:10:30 PM
Im planing on using the 700k AA miles I recently racket up, to go for pasach with family of 4 to Israel

When Should I start looking and any tips?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 27, 2014, 06:52:10 PM
To where in Europe does NIKI fly besides Vienna?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 27, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
To where in Europe does NIKI fly besides Vienna?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niki_destinations
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 27, 2014, 08:23:01 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niki_destinations
Yeah saw that...

Sorry I was not clear. My question is where do the fly to, from TLV besides Vienna?

In other words how can I get to Europe from TLV for 10k BA miles besides to VIE.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on May 27, 2014, 09:05:36 PM
Yeah saw that...

Sorry I was not clear. My question is where do the fly to, from TLV besides Vienna?

In other words how can I get to Europe from TLV for 10k BA miles besides to VIE.
with niki nothing
But with air Berlin to DUS, muc, txl and cgn all are 10k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on May 28, 2014, 01:58:55 AM
Maybe this is the better thread for my post. TIA.
What would be the best way to book EZE-JFK direct in July, is it 25k Avios on AA?

Only 2 carriers service that route (AA and AR).
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on May 28, 2014, 11:03:10 AM
I tried searching a lot for this... so I appreciate any help...

Can anyone explain how to check El Al flight availability when booking with AAdvantage?! I understand that it's 80/90k coach or 135k biz and that I will need to call an AA rep to make the actually booking. But how can I check what the availability IS?! Looking to book TLV - NYC RT biz direct.....

PS Generally speaking.. is the TLV-NYC route have good availability? What about TLV - BOS (I guess this is with a stop over)?

Thnx for ur help peepz!!!!!  8)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 28, 2014, 11:03:56 AM
I tried searching a lot for this... so I appreciate any help...

Can anyone explain how to check El Al flight availability when booking with AAdvantage?! I understand that it's 80/90k coach or 135k biz and that I will need to call an AA rep to make the actually booking. But how can I check what the availability IS?! Looking to book TLV - NYC RT biz direct.....

PS Generally speaking.. is the TLV-NYC route have good availability? What about TLV - BOS (I guess this is with a stop over)?

Thnx for ur help peepz!!!!!  8)
You can check on elal.com or call AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on May 28, 2014, 11:05:25 AM
You can check on elal.com or call AA.

Is every single EL AL flight I see on the El Al website available for award booking (I mean searching like I would pay for cash)?! If so that is some serious jackpot!!!!!! :D :D :D

EDIT: or do I need to select "matmid award members booking" ... even though it's not a matmid reward. Sorry for these annoying questions I am just confused.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 28, 2014, 11:13:32 AM
You can use EF to check LY availability.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 28, 2014, 11:15:44 AM
You need to check matmid award booking. And only base levels are available on AA, not the 1.5x or the 2x points.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on May 28, 2014, 11:18:48 AM
You can use EF to check LY availability.

Cool. What is EF? Plan to add that acronym to the wiki!

You need to check matmid award booking. And only base levels are available on AA, not the 1.5x or the 2x points.

Thought so. Taking a look now. Is it still 3000 matmid points RT for biz at normal fare?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 28, 2014, 11:20:23 AM
Cool. What is EF? Plan to add that acronym to the wiki!

Thought so. Taking a look now. Is it still 3000 matmid points RT for biz at normal fare?
Expert Flyer. Paid service. I imagine you don't want to pay to search.
Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on May 28, 2014, 11:27:20 AM
Expert Flyer. Paid service. I imagine you don't want to pay to search.
Yes.

Added to the wiki.

I definitely don't want to pay to search via EF, but looks like there's a free component that I assume doesn't give me what I need. I'll stick with the crappy matmid tool ...  ::)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 28, 2014, 12:14:07 PM
Added to the wiki.

I definitely don't want to pay to search via EF, but looks like there's a free component that I assume doesn't give me what I need. I'll stick with the crappy matmid tool ...  ::)

EF gives free 5 day trials. I'm still using those about 2years later.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on May 28, 2014, 12:19:15 PM
EF gives free 5 day trials. I'm still using those about 2years later.

Hahah awesome!!! Having unlimited emails via my catch all domain comes in handy for these sorts of things :D
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 28, 2014, 12:22:14 PM
Hahah awesome!!! Having unlimited emails via my catch all domain comes in handy for these sorts of things :D

Yup and my expertflyemail email address is very useful. I guess you can guess what thats for  ;D

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on May 28, 2014, 03:30:19 PM
Yup and my expertflyemail email address is very useful. I guess you can guess what thats for  ;D

:D :D :D
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 06, 2014, 01:40:46 PM
AA finally allows you to route to South Africa via the Middle East, specifically DOH. This finally makes AA miles useful for travel to SA as you were previously limited to routing through Europe/BA with associated YQ and taxes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 06, 2014, 03:02:09 PM
Drooling at EY F, JFK-AUH-JNB for 100K.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 06, 2014, 03:55:35 PM
Drooling at EY F, JFK-AUH-JNB for 100K.
Yeah that's pretty sweet :)
I think the exception only applies on QR metal as of now though.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2014, 03:59:50 PM
Yeah that's pretty sweet :)
I think the exception only applies on QR metal as of now though.
Angled J to JNB?
Pass and then pass again.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 06, 2014, 04:04:33 PM
Drooling at EY F, JFK-AUH-JNB for 100K.
Would there be YQ on such a redemption?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2014, 04:09:39 PM
Would there be YQ on such a redemption?
No but it's not a legal routing anyway.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 06, 2014, 04:12:37 PM
No but it's not a legal routing anyway.
I understand they currently don't allow it, but why is it less legal than going through DOH?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 06, 2014, 04:21:04 PM
No but it's not a legal routing anyway.

I understand they currently don't allow it, but why is it less legal than going through DOH?

What he said.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 06, 2014, 04:21:59 PM
They carved out a QR exception, doesn't negate the rule.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on June 06, 2014, 04:35:56 PM
They carved out a QR exception, doesn't negate the rule.
Whats QR?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 06, 2014, 04:36:53 PM
Whats QR?
Qatar Airways
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 06, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
Angled J to JNB?
Pass and then pass again.
QR angled J isn't nearly as bad as LH or AF angled J but point taken.

This finally makes AA miles relevant for SA awards. QR generally also has good availability.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 06, 2014, 04:47:02 PM
Angled J to JNB?
Pass and then pass again.
QR angled J isn't nearly as bad as LH or AF angled J but point taken.

This finally makes AA miles relevant for SA awards. QR generally also has good availability.
How about their F. Any good?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 06, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
How about their F. Any good?
Very good but not "world class" by any means.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 06, 2014, 04:52:17 PM
They carved out a QR exception, doesn't negate the rule.

Why?

ETA: Ah, maybe because QR is a one-world member, and EY isn't, and they wanted it to be in line with US.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 06, 2014, 05:06:36 PM
and they wanted it to be in line with US.
What do you mean?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 06, 2014, 05:06:43 PM
Why?

ETA: Ah, maybe because QR is a one-world member, and EY isn't, and they wanted it to be in line with US.
That's the working theory.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DBK on June 08, 2014, 12:57:31 AM
Qatar Airways
Thank you
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Feivish on June 09, 2014, 09:15:24 PM
Same day award tickets date change, anyway to get it at no cost?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 09, 2014, 09:19:44 PM
One world has 15 different members, with 15 different frequent flyer programs.

Should we guess which you're talking about?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Feivish on June 09, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
One world has 15 different members, with 15 different frequent flyer programs.

Should we guess which you're talking about?
Sorry you're right I meant AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: adamrr on June 23, 2014, 10:25:11 AM
AA shows award availability in J for jfk to sfo on 8/23 but it doesn't show in EF. am I missing something? for AA15
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 23, 2014, 10:49:52 AM
AA shows award availability in J for jfk to sfo on 8/23 but it doesn't show in EF. am I missing something? for AA15

It shows only available for Standard award not saver. And by standard it is showing up in EF
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: adamrr on June 23, 2014, 11:09:36 AM
must've been a delay, didnt see aa15 at all
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 24, 2014, 12:31:54 PM
Would US allow me to route SYD-JNB-LHR?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 24, 2014, 01:01:10 PM
Would US allow me to route SYD-JNB-LHR?
You can get away with almost any routing with US but needs to be RT.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on June 24, 2014, 01:40:37 PM
I don't know where to post this bit here's my question. 
I want to go from Europe to Australia.
Lufthansa is 100k RT. +$800
United 110k RT. +$400
AA is 90k RT. + $800 since they put me on BA

What's my best way of traveling with the least taxes?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 24, 2014, 01:53:56 PM
You can get away with almost any routing with US but needs to be RT.
Yeah, they allowed the route. Wasn't able to find a return though.  :(
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 24, 2014, 01:55:46 PM
I don't know where to post this bit here's my question. 
I want to go from Europe to Australia.
Lufthansa is 100k RT. +$800
United 110k RT. +$400
AA is 90k RT. + $800 since they put me on BA

What's my best way of traveling with the least taxes?
Its like asking "I can buy a ring for $500, $600 or $700. Which one would be the cheapest?"

Come on, read your own question.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 24, 2014, 01:58:53 PM

Its like asking "I can buy a ring for $500, $600 or $700. Which one would be the cheapest?"

Come on, read your own question.

Haha. Well said.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 24, 2014, 02:27:36 PM
Yeah, they allowed the route. Wasn't able to find a return though.  :(
Bummer. You need to traverse JNB on the return as well?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on June 24, 2014, 02:58:22 PM
Its like asking "I can buy a ring for $500, $600 or $700. Which one would be the cheapest?"

Come on, read your own question.

Are there any options I'm missing that could be cheaper. If search multi city to end up in Australia is that cheaper? Etc ...
I searched delta they come up with nothing. Are there any star alliance airlines that go?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 24, 2014, 04:16:40 PM
Bummer. You need to traverse JNB on the return as well?
No, any avail route would be fine. It was just nothing available.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 24, 2014, 07:12:12 PM
No, any avail route would be fine. It was just nothing available.
With US, there is something always available ;)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 24, 2014, 09:23:44 PM
With US, there is something always available ;)
You don't want me to challenge you.
And 2 stops would not be acceptable.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on June 25, 2014, 09:08:44 AM
I cant seem to find a way to avoid $75 per passenger 21 day award ticket close in fee with AA.  Any suggestions please?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on June 25, 2014, 02:22:28 PM
Can I book an award ticket 21 days in advance without $75 fee and then change date to within 21 days? any other ideas?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 25, 2014, 02:25:19 PM
Can I book an award ticket 21 days in advance without $75 fee and then change date to within 21 days? any other ideas?
That doesn't work.
There is a way but it won't be shared online.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 25, 2014, 03:56:28 PM
Can I book an award ticket 21 days in advance without $75 fee and then change date to within 21 days? any other ideas?
It doesn't work, and even if it does - would you do it? you might want to ask your Rav before doing it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on June 25, 2014, 05:07:25 PM
That doesn't work.
There is a way but it won't be shared online.

any ideas how i can find out?

can you send me a pm?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: PETERP on June 27, 2014, 09:17:58 AM
any ideas how i can find out?

can you send me a pm?


+1. Re PM   .  :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 01, 2014, 12:28:13 AM
I'm trying to book a first class or buisness from LAX-MEL.
There is nothing available do these seats open up right before the departure date?
If yes can I upgrade for free? (Obviously I pay the extra miles from 37.5k to 62k)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 02, 2014, 06:26:30 AM
when I search aa awards and it shows some awards and then it shows others that you cant click on it,
does it mean its gonna open, or that its snatched?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2014, 08:41:47 AM
Neither.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 02, 2014, 02:28:15 PM
Neither.
ok,thanks.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 08, 2014, 11:01:38 PM
I am traveling on AA. trying to book first class from LAX -MEL. Are their any tips to try to get availability besides for checking every day?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 08, 2014, 11:23:42 PM
I am traveling on AA. trying to book first class from LAX -MEL. Are their any tips to try to get availability besides for checking every day?
Yes but you need a boatload of BA miles.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 09, 2014, 12:10:51 AM
Yes but you need a boatload of BA miles.

and money for taxes.....?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 09, 2014, 12:18:03 AM
and money for taxes.....?
$55 worth. Seems like you know where I'm going with this.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 09, 2014, 12:24:44 AM
$55 worth. Seems like you know where I'm going with this.

you want me to fly around the world or something? Sorry Charley I aint going through Europe for a first class cabin.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 09, 2014, 12:43:54 AM
you want me to fly around the world or something? Sorry Charley I aint going through Europe for a first class cabin.
Then apparently you don't.
I'll spell it out.
QF reliably releases one or two F seats as soon as the schedule opens, 353 days out. AA can't access those seats until 330 days out, by then they are all taken. BA can access those seats as soon as they are released. You need to book it with BA as soon as it's released. Once it's bookable by AA, you cancel the BA ticket and IMMEDIATELY book it on AA. You'll pay a $55 cancellation fee but that's a small price to pay for one of the toughest awards in the industry.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 09, 2014, 12:49:34 AM
Then apparently you don't.
I'll spell it out.
QF reliably releases one or two F seats as soon as the schedule opens, 353 days out. AA can't access those seats until 330 days out, by then they are all taken. BA can access those seats as soon as they are released. You need to book it with BA as soon as it's released. Once it's bookable by AA, you cancel the BA ticket and IMMEDIATELY book it on AA. You'll pay a $55 cancellation fee but that's a small price to pay for one of the toughest awards in the industry.

I WANT TO FLY IN SEPTEMBER..... so i am out of luck??
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on July 09, 2014, 12:52:21 AM
I WANT TO FLY IN SEPTEMBER..... so i am out of luck??
Did you check VA & United?

Supposedly they have better availability then Quantas.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 09, 2014, 12:55:28 AM
Did you check VA & United?

Supposedly they have better availability then Quantas.

united does not have any award saver thereby costing 195k for first class  >:(
i have 500k aa and i wanted to use them however sometimes having miles just doesn't get you everything....
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 09, 2014, 01:03:47 AM
125k on VA. and they only offer buisness.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 09, 2014, 12:44:21 PM
125k on VA. and they only offer buisness.
Try CX via HKG.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 10, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
How many AA miles is it for Economy JFK-EUROPE on AA and EUROPE-TLV on LY
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on July 10, 2014, 02:58:49 PM
How many AA miles is it for Economy JFK-EUROPE on AA and EUROPE-TLV on LY

JFK-Europe, Peak-30k, off-peak 20k, Europe-TLV 20k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 10, 2014, 03:03:11 PM
JFK-Europe, Peak-30k, off-peak 20k, Europe-TLV 20k

So it would be 50K in one itinerary?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 10, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
So it would be 50K in one itinerary?
45k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on July 10, 2014, 03:09:51 PM
So it would be 50K in one itinerary?

If done separately then yes. But if don't together then 45k.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ueaiouioei on July 10, 2014, 09:08:48 PM
I'm a complete newbie to booking "complex" award travel. Just want to be sure I'm doing this right.
Going to costa rica in January and found:
1/21 -  AA     LGA - LIR (via MIA)  award economy for 17.5k miles
2/1 - US Air   LIR - LGA (via CLT) award FC for 30k miles.

Now what do I do to book it with Avios points? Do I just call BA and speak to their reservation desk?

Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on July 11, 2014, 12:53:06 AM
I'm a complete newbie to booking "complex" award travel. Just want to be sure I'm doing this right.
Going to costa rica in January and found:
1/21 -  AA     LGA - LIR (via MIA)  award economy for 17.5k miles
2/1 - US Air   LIR - LGA (via CLT) award FC for 30k miles.

Now what do I do to book it with Avios points? Do I just call BA and speak to their reservation desk?

Thanks!
You can call, or book them online and call to piece the itinerary's together.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ash on July 11, 2014, 01:04:19 PM
does anyone know how I can book a one way usairways flight that is a FULL FARE not a saver ? only saaver awards show on AA.com or BA.com ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
You can only book a peak award on US using US miles.

And it'd cost you the RT number of miles as US does not offer OW for 1/2 of RT.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ash on July 11, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
that i know, im asking is there a way to book a one way award using any other miles
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 11, 2014, 05:42:22 PM
that i know, im asking is there a way to book a one way award using any other miles
When US has availability you can book a OW with AA miles.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 11, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
that i know, im asking is there a way to book a one way award using any other miles
You can only book a one way with AA, BA, QF, etc (not US) and it needs to be saver award.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Mordyk on July 13, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
Trying to book nyc to london and ba.com shows $800 in taxes.  Any idea what to do? My points are currently still by chase.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on July 13, 2014, 02:06:19 PM
Trying to book nyc to london and ba.com shows $800 in taxes.  Any idea what to do? My points are currently still by chase.
Fly with another airline,
With BA that's what they charge.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Mordyk on July 13, 2014, 02:11:53 PM
Fly with another airline,
With BA that's what they charge.
I searched on ba.com to fly with american.  I also saw the large tax charge
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on July 13, 2014, 02:26:39 PM

I searched on ba.com to fly with american.  I also saw the large tax charge

Ba charged yq for the flights over the water on Them, AA, and now US Air. If you want to spend less you would need to go a different route
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on July 14, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
Im about to book 6 NYC-TLV on LY with AA miles,
Is there any preference to book as OWs or as RT?
Is there anything to add after TLV (on a OW) that will bring down the price? (on return im booking to lax)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 14, 2014, 04:36:34 PM
Im about to book 6 NYC-TLV on LY with AA miles,
Is there any preference to book as OWs or as RT?
Is there anything to add after TLV (on a OW) that will bring down the price? (on return im booking to lax)
Nope. For which dates?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ueaiouioei on July 15, 2014, 11:15:51 AM
I live in NYC and am going to Costa Rica (LIR) in January for 10 days.
U.S Airways has a return saver FC ticket LIR-CLT-LGA on my return date. And now I'm struggling to find a similar saver FC/BC ticket to go there on 1/21. (This is the first time I'm booking a "complex" ticket like this)

American and United fly on 1/21 to LIR. American from MIA (AA1632) has 32 empty business class seats and United (UA1510) from IAH has 12 empty business class seats. Both have saver FC from NYC but neither have anything showing on the second leg to LIR. I have two questions:

1) US Air shows on their web site that award travel can only be booked one way. Is that only online or can I just call them now to book that return ticket with Avios points.

2) We're still 5 months out. Are there any tricks to try and get any of those flights to LIR with saver Business Class? All my points are coming from Ultimate Rewards.

Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 15, 2014, 11:35:47 AM
I live in NYC and am going to Costa Rica (LIR) in January for 10 days.
U.S Airways has a return saver FC ticket LIR-CLT-LGA on my return date. And now I'm struggling to find a similar saver FC/BC ticket to go there on 1/21. (This is the first time I'm booking a "complex" ticket like this)

American and United fly on 1/21 to LIR. American from MIA (AA1632) has 32 empty business class seats and United (UA1510) from IAH has 12 empty business class seats. Both have saver FC from NYC but neither have anything showing on the second leg to LIR. I have two questions:

1) US Air shows on their web site that award travel can only be booked one way. Is that only online or can I just call them now to book that return ticket with Avios points.

2) We're still 5 months out. Are there any tricks to try and get any of those flights to LIR with saver Business Class? All my points are coming from Ultimate Rewards.

Thanks!
Don't how you are calculating the amount of empty seats but no airline will show more than 7-9 empty seats at once.
Booking with US miles can only be booked RT.
If you are booking with Avios, you need to search, transfer, and book with BA.
Award space changes by the minute. 5 months is an eternity. Just keep checking.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2014, 11:37:01 AM
I live in NYC and am going to Costa Rica (LIR) in January for 10 days.
U.S Airways has a return saver FC ticket LIR-CLT-LGA on my return date. And now I'm struggling to find a similar saver FC/BC ticket to go there on 1/21. (This is the first time I'm booking a "complex" ticket like this)

American and United fly on 1/21 to LIR. American from MIA (AA1632) has 32 empty business class seats and United (UA1510) from IAH has 12 empty business class seats. Both have saver FC from NYC but neither have anything showing on the second leg to LIR. I have two questions:

1) US Air shows on their web site that award travel can only be booked one way. Is that only online or can I just call them now to book that return ticket with Avios points.

2) We're still 5 months out. Are there any tricks to try and get any of those flights to LIR with saver Business Class? All my points are coming from Ultimate Rewards.

Thanks!

1) If you're using Avios, it's irrelevant what US says on their website. Avios can book US flights one way or round trip.

2) Pray. Or, if you know the CEO or head of inventory management at US, give 'em a call.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ueaiouioei on July 15, 2014, 11:58:42 AM
Don't how you are calculating the amount of empty seats but no airline will show more than 7-9 empty seats at once.

Both AA and United let you see maps of available seats
http://imgur.com/hushmMg (http://imgur.com/hushmMg)
http://imgur.com/zB1KKBN (http://imgur.com/zB1KKBN)

Is this not accurate?

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2014, 11:59:40 AM
Both AA and United let you see maps of available seats
http://imgur.com/hushmMg (http://imgur.com/hushmMg)
http://imgur.com/zB1KKBN (http://imgur.com/zB1KKBN)

Is this not accurate?

It is not an accurate indicator of loads, no.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on July 16, 2014, 09:49:41 AM
Does AA website award search show Alaska flights or do you have to call AA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 16, 2014, 09:53:11 AM
Does AA website award search show Alaska flights or do you have to call AA?
You can search on the website.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 16, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
What is the cheapest way to book LHR-NYC ?

Cheapest i mean least YQ
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 16, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
What is the cheapest way to book LHR-NYC ?

Cheapest i mean least YQ
OW or RT?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 16, 2014, 02:29:27 PM
OW or RT?

OW
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 16, 2014, 02:31:47 PM
OW
2OK AA miles on AA metal. You'll still pay heavy UK tax.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 16, 2014, 02:42:00 PM
2OK AA miles on AA metal. You'll still pay heavy UK tax.

It's over $200 each that is still alot
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on July 16, 2014, 02:48:59 PM
What is the cheapest way to book LHR-NYC ?

Cheapest i mean least YQ
Direct?
In coach?
AA off peak 20k +$178
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 16, 2014, 03:24:07 PM
Direct?
In coach?
AA off peak 20k +$178

It's a bit more
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on July 16, 2014, 07:49:08 PM
It's a bit more
did it recently change?
I remember paying for coach around 178
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: schneury on July 19, 2014, 10:48:59 PM
looking to book a flight from NYC to YYC sometime in september using AA miles, westjet is the only airline that has direct flights, i called AA and they said i cant use AA miles to book on westjet, anyone know if and how this could be done?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 19, 2014, 11:11:25 PM
looking to book a flight from NYC to YYC sometime in september using AA miles, westjet is the only airline that has direct flights, i called AA and they said i cant use AA miles to book on westjet, anyone know if and how this could be done?

AA via DFW; AS via SEA; and US via PHX.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: schneury on July 19, 2014, 11:47:04 PM

AA via DFW; AS via SEA; and US via PHX.
my question is if there is a way to book westjet using AA MILES
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 20, 2014, 12:08:45 AM
No. I would have answered it as one of the ways in my previous post if it was possible.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: schneury on July 20, 2014, 07:57:26 AM
Thanks
Are there any programs that transfer to westjet?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 22, 2014, 04:36:48 PM
AA.com showing Niki availability. Is this new?
I don't think I've ever seen it before.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 22, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
AA.com showing Niki availability. Is this new?
I don't think I've ever seen it before.
It's not new. At least, I checked about 3 months ago and they were showing it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on July 22, 2014, 04:51:41 PM
It's not new. At least, I checked about 3 months ago and they were showing it.

I saw a few months ago
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 22, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Cool.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on July 24, 2014, 09:37:08 AM
Anyway to get $35 fee waived when booking El-Al flights via AA miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on July 24, 2014, 01:43:34 PM
whats the best way to search From tlv to Kenya?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 24, 2014, 01:52:40 PM
Anyway to get $35 fee waived when booking El-Al flights via AA miles?
I think I could retire if someone would pay me a penny every time this question was asked.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on July 24, 2014, 03:46:09 PM
I think I could retire if someone would pay me a penny every time this question was asked.

is that a no?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on July 27, 2014, 02:49:27 PM
Any workarounds on AA for $75 fee for within 21 days?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 27, 2014, 03:45:19 PM
Any workarounds on AA for $75 fee for within 21 days?
I think I could retire if someone would pay me a penny every time this question was asked.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on July 27, 2014, 03:50:02 PM
Anyway to get $35 fee waived when booking El-Al flights via AA miles?

Any workarounds on AA for $75 fee for within 21 days?
I didn't realize this is the same question. And I still don't see how it is
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 27, 2014, 03:57:18 PM
I didn't realize this is the same question. And I still don't see how it is
It's not, but both questions were asked many many times here.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on July 27, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
It's not, but both questions were asked many many times here.
If it bothers you a lot you can add it to the wiki
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 27, 2014, 05:38:38 PM
in this link
 http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/12271
 dan says the following

 Typically AA only allows you to hold an award ticket for 5 days but I managed to hold the same award ticket for an entire month which allowed me to optimize the ticket as flights became available.

Dan or someone can you give me a tip how to do that I have a buisness ticket on hold and i need more than 5 days before i decide.

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on July 27, 2014, 06:56:18 PM
in this link
 http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/12271
 dan says the following

 Typically AA only allows you to hold an award ticket for 5 days but I managed to hold the same award ticket for an entire month which allowed me to optimize the ticket as flights became available.

Dan or someone can you give me a tip how to do that I have a buisness ticket on hold and i need more than 5 days before i decide.
Make any small change?
Adding an infant etc.?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 27, 2014, 07:04:22 PM
Make any small change?
Adding an infant etc.?

I'm not married. Can u tell me some ideas?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 27, 2014, 10:56:45 PM
I'm not married. Can u tell me some ideas?
Add my child. Abraham Minsk, 03/07/2013.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 27, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
Add my child. Abraham Minsk, 03/07/2013.

ok ill make one up i get the point. but that automaticlly will extend it another 5 days? also there is no seats left in business so even if i place him in economy it will extend? then i take away and add every 5 days?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 27, 2014, 11:05:51 PM
ok ill make one up i get the point. but that automaticlly will extend it another 5 days? also there is no seats left in business so even if i place him in economy it will extend? then i take away and add every 5 days?
You add the infant as a lap child.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 27, 2014, 11:07:14 PM
You add the infant as a lap child.

why didn't i think of that.... but taking a child off and on will keep extending?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 27, 2014, 11:07:48 PM
why didn't i think of that.... but taking a child off and on will keep extending?
Not sure...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on July 28, 2014, 06:13:13 AM
im looking for a flight from BKK to TLV with AA miles. other than the RJ via AMM and the LY thats not available is there any other routings i can ask them to search for?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 28, 2014, 06:43:45 PM
I found availabity using AA points on USAirways flight in saver award for 25k round trip from PHL to PHX to  w/ stopover in ATL, but it does not show up when I search on USAirways. I have the BArclays USAirways card so I prefer to use them and save 5k. Is there a way to get that flight?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 28, 2014, 06:45:49 PM
I found availabity using AA points on USAirways flight in saver award for 25k round trip from PHL to PHX to  w/ stopover in ATL, but it does not show up when I search on USAirways. I have the BArclays USAirways card so I prefer to use them and save 5k. Is there a way to get that flight?
Call.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 28, 2014, 06:47:16 PM
Call.
Oh. Does USAir let me hold for 5 days like AA?


Any workarounds on AA for $75 fee for within 21 days?
Does the workaround for United not work on AA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on July 28, 2014, 06:56:44 PM



Does the workaround for United not work on AA?
correct, no worky

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 28, 2014, 07:00:45 PM
Oh. Does USAir let me hold for 5 days like AA?

Does the workaround for United not work on AA?
3 day hold.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 28, 2014, 07:19:08 PM
3 day hold.
Thanks. In the meantime I called AA and put ticket on hold. The rep told me within 21 days I only can only hold till 12am tom. Will all reps tell me that?

She told me its the last ticket available in saver. When I check now, it doesn't show any availability. I don't know how smart it is to cancel my hold to save 5k by switching to USAir. Any way to transfer the reservation from AA to USAir?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 28, 2014, 11:08:48 PM
when booking aa award travel Is there any way what so ever to cancel an award ticket and have the miles redeposited with out the $150
Are there any types of insurance or the sort that would cover the fee?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on July 28, 2014, 11:46:56 PM
im looking for a flight from BKK to TLV with AA miles. other than the RJ via AMM and the LY thats not available is there any other routings i can ask them to search for?
CX to HKG and LY to TLV
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on July 29, 2014, 01:53:45 AM
CX to HKG and LY to TLV
Thanks, in the end I decided to go straight from CNX to HKG via dragon air
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 29, 2014, 08:25:00 PM
3 day hold.
More availability opened so I put ticket on hold for 3 days. They told me the fees for RT are $141.20! He didn't brake it down for me; but does that include a phone booking-fee? I thought USAirways doesnt charge for tickets you can't book online? Or do I have to ask for that?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 29, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
More availability opened so I put ticket on hold for 3 days. They told me the fees for RT are $141.20! He didn't brake it down for me; but does that include a phone booking-fee? I thought USAirways doesnt charge for tickets you can't book online? Or do I have to ask for that?

http://www.usairways.com/en-US/dividendmiles/usemiles/booktravel.html
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 29, 2014, 10:47:18 PM
http://www.usairways.com/en-US/dividendmiles/usemiles/booktravel.html
call center ticketing $30
Quick ticketing (21 days) $75*
Award processing $25*
*Fee does not apply to Gold, Platinum and Chairman's Preferred members.
Anyway to get status with Amex Platinum, Barclays USAir or other card?
Also the call center center ticketing should have been waived, as I was not able to book online.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 29, 2014, 11:14:08 PM
call center ticketing $30
Quick ticketing (21 days) $75*
Award processing $25*
*Fee does not apply to Gold, Platinum and Chairman's Preferred members.
Anyway to get status with Amex Platinum, Barclays USAir or other card?
Also the call center center ticketing should have been waived, as I was not able to book online.
No.

If it was a US flight you should be able to book it online, if not tell the rep that and they should waive the fee.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 30, 2014, 09:32:12 AM
If available I may add multiple people to the reservation. I'm assuming the above fees are per reservation, not per ticket?
Is there number with a shorter wait time than the reg CS? (Something like Dans United callback)?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 30, 2014, 12:08:50 PM
If available I may add multiple people to the reservation. I'm assuming the above fees are per reservation, not per ticket?
Is there number with a shorter wait time than the reg CS? (Something like Dans United callback)?
Per ticket.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 31, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
I have a 3 hold with USAirways expiring tom night. Right now the departure is not available. Would I be able to change the return, and thereby extend hold for another 3 days?
If I was ready to book would they let me keep original departure, and change return?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shmebeble on August 06, 2014, 07:45:19 PM
I have a 3 hold with USAirways expiring tom night. Right now the departure is not available. Would I be able to change the return, and thereby extend hold for another 3 days?
If I was ready to book would they let me keep original departure, and change return?
cross poster!
I answered it on the other thread.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on August 06, 2014, 08:23:18 PM
cross poster!
I answered it on the other thread.
It may be in the wrong thread; but it is a different question! :D
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shmebeble on August 06, 2014, 11:11:21 PM
I found availability on aa.com saaver award but ba claimsthey don't see it.  I fed the reps the flight to no avail,  is there a reason for this?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on August 07, 2014, 12:17:56 AM
I found availability on aa.com saaver award but ba claimsthey don't see it.  I fed the reps the flight to no avail,  is there a reason for this?
I had the same, best is to HUCA, and ask for a supervisor.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 14, 2014, 12:54:10 AM
Dan posted here all about how to get AA perks( free baggage with citi cc and the like) on a BA ticket.

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/29252

for those following cant I just skip out the finnair step?
I'll go to checkmytrip.com get my AA record locator then go to AA.com and scroll down click Add/Edit Passenger Information and add my AA advantage #.
Am i missing something?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 12:56:52 AM
Dan posted here all about how to get AA perks( free baggage with citi cc and the like) on a BA ticket.

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/29252

for those following cant I just skip out the finnair step?
I'll go to checkmytrip.com get my AA record locator then go to AA.com and scroll down click Add/Edit Passenger Information and add my AA advantage #.
Am i missing something?
The system wont let you.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 14, 2014, 01:01:39 AM
The system wont let you.

ok. thanks for the info.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 14, 2014, 10:15:45 AM
Any good values for booking AA transcon F now that US is dead?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on September 14, 2014, 10:51:24 AM
The system wont let you.
Can't you use rj.com  Royal Jordanian airlines?  manage your reservation using the BA record locator.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 14, 2014, 10:59:44 AM
Can't you use rj.com  Royal Jordanian airlines?  manage your reservation using the BA record locator.
You could. Read the OPs post again.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 14, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
Is this accurate? Little YQ on EK, AB, CX, QR, RJ, and IB?

And it looks like they allow routing to Asia via Europe on AB and it would be just $149 in fees.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 14, 2014, 11:30:57 AM
Yeah, it supposedly changed a couple months ago, at least with respect to EK YQ with JL ex-USA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 14, 2014, 11:34:20 AM
Which change are you talking about? That they should or shouldn't charge YQ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 14, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
That the YQ is what is stated.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 14, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
That the YQ is what is stated.
So they didn't charge YQ then they did and now they don't collect YQ again? Ill have to verify that.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 15, 2014, 10:07:33 PM
Having a blank:

Any reason I could not route TLV-AMM-AUH-IAD on an AA award with RJ and EY?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2014, 10:25:57 PM
Having a blank:

Any reason I could not route TLV-AMM-AUH-IAD on an AA award with RJ and EY?
Because EY has no published fare between TLV and IAD (even though RJ does have), and you must follow EY's rules since they're the over-water carrier.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 15, 2014, 10:27:48 PM
Right, right. Thanks.

Two awards it is.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 18, 2014, 02:02:59 AM
PVG-JFK on EY via AUH booked with AA miles, will require two awards, correct?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on September 18, 2014, 03:02:08 AM
PVG-JFK on EY via AUH booked with AA miles, will require two awards, correct?
Yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 18, 2014, 08:51:42 AM
Yes
Stinks  :P
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 20, 2014, 08:49:25 PM
Any ideas how to find 2 business tickets from TLV to JFK with AA miles?

10/22, could only find with 2 stopovers via Amman with crazy layover times
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on September 20, 2014, 08:54:34 PM

Any ideas how to find 2 business tickets from TLV to JFK with AA miles?

10/22, could only find with 2 stopovers via Amman with crazy layover times
Try el al. Or try el al to Europe and connect with american.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 20, 2014, 09:07:42 PM
Try el al. Or try el al to Europe and connect with american.
No elal. Also tried every city in Europe I can think of and no AA saver avil
Title: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on September 20, 2014, 09:13:46 PM
No elal. Also tried every city in Europe I can think of and no AA saver avil
might not be ideal, but check ly to frankfurt then frankfurt to phl on us
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 20, 2014, 10:23:40 PM
might not be ideal, but check ly to frankfurt then frankfurt to phl on us
Thanks but nothing..
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on September 21, 2014, 08:14:01 AM
Any ideas how to find 2 business tickets from TLV to JFK with AA miles?

10/22, could only find with 2 stopovers via Amman with crazy layover times
No TLV-LAX?
How about routing via VIE on Niki or Germany on AB?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 21, 2014, 08:47:45 AM
AA flies VIE-JFK?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on September 21, 2014, 10:10:52 AM
AA flies VIE-JFK?
No
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 21, 2014, 10:12:27 AM
No
Yeah.. So what's Peshat

No TLV-LAX?
How about routing via VIE on Niki or Germany on AB?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on September 21, 2014, 10:17:26 AM
From tlv to VIE there is niki
From there to lax via lhr /par/mad
Or maybe air Berlin flies to lax?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 21, 2014, 10:22:29 AM
From tlv to VIE there is niki
From there to lax via lhr /par/mad
Or maybe air Berlin flies to lax?
The OP asked about TLV-JFK. No idea what Drago dreamed about LAX. Ohhh he currently plans a trip to LAX so he is one track minded  :P
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: EJB on September 22, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
I HATE THE AA PHONE TICKETING NUMBER!!! THE AUTOMATED LINE NEVER RECOGNIZES "TEL AVIV" FOR ME!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 22, 2014, 11:35:05 PM
I HATE THE AA PHONE TICKETING NUMBER!!! THE AUTOMATED LINE NEVER RECOGNIZES "TEL AVIV" FOR ME!

You actually try to use the automated line?  :o
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 23, 2014, 12:17:39 AM
You actually try to use the automated line?  :o
+1. The only time I saw someone using it was a 88 year old guy. I was shaken up by how people answer, JJAAYY EEFFF KKKEEEYYY - JJUULLYY 26, TTTEELLL AAVVIIVV - JJJJUULLYY 29. And when the agent is finally picking up, you have to give him all the dates again...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: EJB on September 23, 2014, 12:18:48 AM
You actually try to use the automated line?  :o

Did it once. Didn't think it would be that bad. Never again.
Me: "TEL AVIV!!!!"
Moron on the other end: "Did you say Sao Paulo???"
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on September 23, 2014, 01:49:16 AM
The OP asked about TLV-JFK. No idea what Drago dreamed about LAX. Ohhh he currently plans a trip to LAX so he is one track minded  :P
Sry for my delay in responding, but I needed a few days to calm down after your flippant disrespectful comments.

I meant flying LY to LAX and then backtracking to JFK.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Zkpncs48 on September 23, 2014, 02:51:22 AM
You actually try to use the automated line?  :o
works for me. you have to pronounce it tel aveev
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 23, 2014, 07:52:30 AM
works for me. you have to pronounce it tel aveev

Even if it works, which is rarely, what's the point? You have to usually repeat all the info again when the agent picks up.

One of my biggest pet peeves; if the automated line asks for it, it should be relayed to the agent!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: HolyNyc on September 23, 2014, 07:56:14 AM
I meant flying LY to LAX and then backtracking to JFK.
I feel sorry for whoever does that, especially on LY  ;)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: HolyNyc on September 23, 2014, 07:58:26 AM
Even if it works, which is rarely, what's the point? You have to usually repeat all the info again when the agent picks up.

One of my biggest pet peeves; if the automated line asks for it, it should be relayed to the agent!
they say fake it on till you make it, seems like the big companies are still doing it😄
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 23, 2014, 10:00:15 AM
Sry for my delay in responding, but I needed a few days to calm down after your flippant disrespectful comments.

I meant flying LY to LAX and then backtracking to JFK.
My gosh. Drago, I was making a silly joke. You can't take jokes anymore?

I truly respect you and I know that you're here to help others. Sorry if you tooke it as an offense.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2014, 03:36:53 PM
FYI: Cancelled TAM flights take roughly 18 hours to go back into inventory.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: BarryLincoln on September 23, 2014, 03:39:50 PM
(Possibly silly) question - Can one use AA miles to book a flight to a European destination on LY via TLV (<24 hr stop over) - assuming LY serves that EUR destination?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2014, 03:41:25 PM
No, invalid routing.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: BarryLincoln on September 23, 2014, 03:42:00 PM
No, invalid routing.

Thx.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 23, 2014, 03:48:22 PM
FYI: Cancelled TAM flights take roughly 18 hours to go back into inventory.
Cancelled holds or cancelled bookings?
My holds went back instantly.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on September 23, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
Cancelled holds or cancelled bookings?
My holds went back instantly.
Canceled hold.  Hold wasn't cancelled by me though, was systematically cancelled.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on September 29, 2014, 11:01:01 AM
My gosh. Drago, I was making a silly joke. You can't take jokes anymore?

I truly respect you and I know that you're here to help others. Sorry if you tooke it as an offense.
Just saw this
I was being sarcastic as I often am
Hence my use of fancy words like flippant
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 01, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Don't know where this belongs.
Since BA has crazy fuel surcharges and the best way to leave Europe is on AB or EL. (or use UA miles)
I am probably going to take an EL flight from DUB-JFK. However I will fly Ryanair in to DUB which lands in terminal 1.
How long does it take to get from terminal 1 to terminal 2? is 1.5 hrs good enough? No checked luggage.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 02, 2014, 04:46:35 PM
I'm trying to chk availability for HKG-HAN, but BA doesn't recognize HAN in their system.
I see that DragoAir has flights on this route, how would I go about checking? I'm unsure if the results of CXs website is what AA can book, and QF isnt helping me either.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 04:49:50 PM
I'm trying to chk availability for HKG-HAN, but BA doesn't recognize HAN in their system.
I see that DragoAir has flights on this route, how would I go about checking? I'm unsure if the results of CXs website is what AA can book, and QF isnt helping me either.
Date?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 02, 2014, 04:52:08 PM
Date?
I have flexibility, but am looking at going to HA on 1/20, and returning on 2/2.
Prefer J
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 04:53:52 PM
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
TUE  20 Jan 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         297     HKG   08:45     HAN   09:50              CS1  YS0
KA         295     HKG   17:30     HAN   18:35              CS4  YS0

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
MON  02 Feb 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         296     HAN   10:45     HKG   13:35              CS0  YS9
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 02, 2014, 04:54:57 PM
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
TUE  20 Jan 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         297     HKG   08:45     HAN   09:50              CS1  YS0
KA         295     HKG   17:30     HAN   18:35              CS4  YS0

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
MON  02 Feb 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         296     HAN   10:45     HKG   13:35              CS0  YS9
Forgot to add I need 5 seats.
Since I can't read this, how many is it showing, and in which class?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 04:55:18 PM
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
SUN  01 Feb 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         294     HAN   19:30     HKG   22:20              CS6  YS9

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
TUE  03 Feb 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         296     HAN   10:45     HKG   13:35              CS2  YS9
KA         294     HAN   19:30     HKG   22:20              CS5  YS9
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 04:55:57 PM
Forgot to add I need 5 seats.
Since I can't read this, how many is it showing, and in which class?
CS=J, YS=Y.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 02, 2014, 04:59:33 PM
Hmm, so I'd need to push off the dates by a day to ensure I can get 5 seats?
The outbound has to be the afternoon flight cuz we land at 2pm, and the return to HKG has to be the morning flight.
Not a big deal if we don't all have J for this leg.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 02, 2014, 06:03:17 PM
[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
SUN  01 Feb 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         294     HAN   19:30     HKG   22:20              CS6  YS9

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HAN  Hanoi Noibai VN [VVNB]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
TUE  03 Feb 2015 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KA         296     HAN   10:45     HKG   13:35              CS2  YS9
KA         294     HAN   19:30     HKG   22:20              CS5  YS9

Did you power search for 5 seats or just go day by day?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 02, 2014, 11:39:36 PM
Did you power search for 5 seats or just go day by day?
I can't figure out how to search this route.
I don't have KVS, and BA and QF aren't of any help.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 11:41:51 PM
KVS is a wonderful tool.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 02, 2014, 11:53:30 PM
KVS is a wonderful tool.

Are you somehow answering my question?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 03, 2014, 04:31:00 AM
So I've put the tix on hold. For now, HKG-HAN is in Y, while HAN-HKG is 2 seats in J, 3 in Y.

Anyway to set alerts for these flights to chk if J opens?

How about setting alerts for AA flights?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 05, 2014, 01:12:48 AM
Anyone willing to let me use their KVS for a few days so I can continue searching HKG-HAN availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: HolyNyc on October 05, 2014, 02:35:38 AM
Anyone willing to let me use their KVS for a few days so I can continue searching HKG-HAN availability?
I don't have kvs (yet) but as far as I know you need to download it on your pc also there is a two month trial for $20
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 05, 2014, 10:43:41 AM
I don't have kvs (yet) but as far as I know you need to download it on your pc also there is a two month trial for $20
Thx
It's only for the next few days, but I guess I can just call it in to AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on October 05, 2014, 11:48:38 PM
What route from Europe to the U.S. does AA have the best availability in F on the new 777?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 05, 2014, 11:56:47 PM
What route from Europe to the U.S. does AA have the best availability in F on the new 777?

Unfortunately, AA's J/F availability USA<>EU is terrible.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on October 05, 2014, 11:57:30 PM
What route from Europe to the U.S. does AA have the best availability in F on the new 777?
They only fly it to London and availability is almost non-existent.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on October 06, 2014, 12:01:30 AM
They only fly it to London and availability is almost non-existent.
I believe Zurich too, does anyone know for certain?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on October 06, 2014, 12:02:40 AM
I believe Zurich too, does anyone know for certain?
ZRH is the retrofitted 767.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on October 06, 2014, 12:03:19 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 07, 2014, 01:24:25 AM
trying to search a CX flight from Europe to Australia. BA ans QF websites give me different flights and when i call aa i get new flights that I never saw.
Are their any other places to search CX flights?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 07, 2014, 01:41:34 AM
trying to search a CX flight from Europe to Australia. BA ans QF websites give me different flights and when i call aa i get new flights that I never saw.
Are their any other places to search CX flights?

CX does not fly non-stop EU to AUS.

What are you looking for specifically?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 07, 2014, 02:03:13 AM
CX does not fly non-stop EU to AUS.

What are you looking for specifically?
I know but they go through HKG.
MAN-MEL march 22 OW business or First
when i break it up so I do MAN-HKG i have certain results. Than I choose LHR-HKG i get different results and so on. (when i leave from MAN they route me through LHR)
Then i search again and different things come.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 07, 2014, 02:36:49 AM
I know but they go through HKG.
MAN-MEL march 22 OW business or First
when i break it up so I do MAN-HKG i have certain results. Than I choose LHR-HKG i get different results and so on. (when i leave from MAN they route me through LHR)
Then i search again and different things come.

What miles are you using?

How are you searching?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 07, 2014, 02:42:48 AM
Nothing doing.



[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
MEL  Melbourne Metro / Tullamarine VI AU = MEL AVV [YMML]
SUN  22 Feb 2015

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX         252     LHR   11:25     HKG   07:00 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> CX     163     HKG   10:20 +1  MEL   22:35 +1  333  0   FS/  CS0  YS0
CX         238     LHR   17:15     HKG   12:50 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> CX     135     HKG   19:10 +1  MEL   07:30 +2  333  0   FS/  CS0  YS0
CX         250     LHR   18:05     HKG   13:50 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> CX     135     HKG   19:10 +1  MEL   07:30 +2  333  0   FS/  CS0  YS0
CX         256     LHR   20:40     HKG   16:15 +1  77W  0   CS0  YS0
 -> CX     135     HKG   19:10 +1  MEL   07:30 +2  333  0   CS0  YS0
CX         254     LHR   22:00     HKG   17:45 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> CX     135     HKG   19:10 +1  MEL   07:30 +2  333  0   FS/  CS0  YS0
CX         254     LHR   22:00     HKG   17:45 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
 -> CX     105     HKG   00:05 +2  MEL   12:20 +2  333  0   FS/  CS0  YS0

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
SUN  22 Feb 2015

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX         252     LHR   11:25     HKG   07:00 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
CX         238     LHR   17:15     HKG   12:50 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
CX         250     LHR   18:05     HKG   13:50 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0
CX         256     LHR   20:40     HKG   16:15 +1  77W  0   CS0  YS0
CX         254     LHR   22:00     HKG   17:45 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS0  YS0

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.4/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
HKG  Hong Kong Chek Lap Kok Intl HK [VHHH]
MEL  Melbourne Metro / Tullamarine VI AU = MEL AVV [YMML]
SUN  22 Feb 2015

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
CX         105     HKG   00:05     MEL   12:20     333  0   CS0  YS0
CX         163     HKG   10:20     MEL   22:35     333  0   CS0  YS0
CX         135     HKG   19:10     MEL   07:30 +1  333  0   CS0  YS0
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2014, 02:45:33 AM
CX from LHR is tough.
Try MXP, CDG, FRA, AMS, or FCO.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 07, 2014, 05:40:01 AM
What's my best bet to get 5 ppl to SYD from TLV or Asia in J?
Would CX typically open up space close to departure, or is this route pretty full? (December/January time)

I can still get TLV-HKG pretty easily on LY w/ AA miles, but am struggling with the second part.

I can split up the trip and use *A miles for the Asia-SYD leg since it's a good value, but I'll go ask that part in the other thread.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on October 07, 2014, 08:12:37 AM


Are their any other places to search CX flights?
JAL.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 07, 2014, 10:14:45 AM
What miles are you using?

How are you searching?

I am using AA miles. Using BA QF award search engines.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 07, 2014, 10:40:52 AM
CX from LHR is tough.
Try MXP, CDG, FRA, AMS, or FCO.

Thanks a lot it helped. The biggest issue is HKG-MEL. Now that's hard and you can only go through (SYD,BNE) and thats also booked, and I'm not interested in so many stops.
(I even have CX 238 F on hold from LHR-HKG but I doubt I will be able to use it  >:( especially CX doesn't fly first to Australia.)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 12, 2014, 02:02:49 PM
So when I booked TLV-HKG-HAN, AA charged me a "base fare" of $12 per ticket above the expected taxes
When I asked them to get me details, she came back to me after speaking to a supervisor, or rate desk, and said that it's standard on Pacific flights. When I pointed out that this wasn't a trans-pac flight, she just said okay.

I went ahead and booked it due to the impending start of the chag.

Anyone familiar with this? If it's incorrect, would I be able to get AA to sort it out for me?

Thx
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on October 14, 2014, 03:56:23 PM
What miles are the cheapest to use when booking Qantas?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 14, 2014, 03:59:09 PM
Which route?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on October 14, 2014, 04:02:10 PM
Which route?
NYC-SYD/MEL
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on October 14, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
NYC-SYD/MEL
AA for economy (37.5k) and AS for business (55k)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 14, 2014, 05:38:42 PM
AA for economy (37.5k) and AS for business (55k)
how far in advance can you book with AS?

Meaning, do you have to start with BA like you have to when you wanna use AA miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 14, 2014, 07:12:28 PM
Historically, no. But now, yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 14, 2014, 10:16:30 PM
how far in advance can you book with AS?

Meaning, do you have to start with BA like you have to when you wanna use AA miles?

Buisness and first to AUS is from the hardest tickets. QF just added the A380 from DFW-SYD so don't forget to check that out.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 14, 2014, 10:58:31 PM
Just hard on QF. VA oftentimes has fantastic availability. In fact, that's how I plan to do BOB... ;)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 14, 2014, 11:21:58 PM
Buisness and first to AUS is from the hardest tickets. QF just added the A380 from DFW-SYD so don't forget to check that out.
Supposely you can grab two seeds when they load their inventory
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on October 14, 2014, 11:41:36 PM
Supposely you can grab two seeds when they load their inventory
They do, but then you need to book with BA or QF miles which is a fortune compared to AA or AS. 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 15, 2014, 12:30:37 AM
They do, but then you need to book with BA or QF miles which is a fortune compared to AA or AS.
Hence...
how far in advance can you book with AS?

Meaning, do you have to start with BA like you have to when you wanna use AA miles?
QF award seats historically go back to inventory after canceling.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on October 16, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
Some helpful posts which ya'll may already know about.

http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2014/10/15/reliable-trick-get-qantas-first-class-awards/

http://saverocity.com/asthejoeflies/2014/10/weird-aa-first-class-award-space-experience/
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: avadah on October 18, 2014, 04:44:46 PM
Is there a usually difference in availability between AA and US airways?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2014/10/15/reliable-trick-get-qantas-first-class-awards/
Useful only if you have a boatload of BA.
Party of 2 would need 600K BA for LAX-SYD in F.

http://saverocity.com/asthejoeflies/2014/10/weird-aa-first-class-award-space-experience/
CX does that a lot. Didn't know AA does.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 18, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
He is in the award booking service and he never bumped into married segments? I've seen it with LH as well.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 18, 2014, 09:19:50 PM
He is in the award booking service and he never bumped into married segments? I've seen it with LH as well.
You've seen it with AA on other routes?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 18, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
You've seen it with AA on other routes?
Nope. Never seen it on any US carriers.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 05:33:59 PM
Where can I search for EY availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on October 22, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
Where can I search for EY availability?
On their website.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 05:40:55 PM
On their website.
Right, forgot... Thought I used to search on EF and when I tried to search before, I was not able to search availability. Thought they stopped showing it. Thanks.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 06:01:37 PM
Nice to see EY releasing J availability on their new A380. Lets hope F will be available as well.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on October 24, 2014, 12:59:08 PM
Trying to find a RT JFK-PUJ on AA saver to book with just 20K BA, based on #2 from this (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/53006) awesome post, cross referenced with this (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/32877) one. The problem I'm running into is no direct flights available - are there particular months or seasons with more availability? I don't mind stopping over, but it seems to drive up the cost of BA since it's distance based pricing. For example the cost of NYC-MIA = 7,500 and MIA-PUJ = 7,500, while JFK-PUJ direct would be 10k. Any help appreciated!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ChaniS on October 30, 2014, 11:05:44 AM
I'm sorry If this has been discussed before, but I am new here and tried finding my answer before posting!
Say I'm looking to get 20-25 tickets to Israel for next Sukkos.  I have lots of American Express points and don't mind a stopover.
What is the most economical/best way to do this?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on October 31, 2014, 02:09:08 PM
Trying to find a RT JFK-PUJ on AA saver to book with just 20K BA, based on #2 from this (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/53006) awesome post, cross referenced with this (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/32877) one. The problem I'm running into is no direct flights available - are there particular months or seasons with more availability? I don't mind stopping over, but it seems to drive up the cost of BA since it's distance based pricing. For example the cost of NYC-MIA = 7,500 and MIA-PUJ = 7,500, while JFK-PUJ direct would be 10k. Any help appreciated!

bump
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 31, 2014, 03:15:06 PM
bump
Seems to be a discontinued route. Though it may be a summer only route in which case stay tuned for when those routes are announced.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on November 03, 2014, 11:51:09 AM
Seems to be a discontinued route. Though it may be a summer only route in which case stay tuned for when those routes are announced.

Darn. Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Suave on November 04, 2014, 07:39:31 AM
Gents, I am not a churner and do not have many miles but can use your help with one specific journey

I have 30k Avios, I am stuck in the Ukraine and would like to return to the US within the next 6 days.

Any ideas as to where I can fly from for 30k avios or less from europe to NYC - I understand that I may have to take a cash shorthaul to the point of departure such as RIX, OSL, TLL etc.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2014, 08:21:14 AM
SNN or DUB to BOS is 12.5K Avios.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on November 04, 2014, 08:48:45 AM
I have two tickets in J on CX and one F seat just opened. I don't want to change my ticket as I need two seats in F. The AA rep told me that I can't put in hold as I can't double book. Can anyone advise me on how I can hold that F seat without giving up my seat in J?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on November 04, 2014, 08:53:43 AM
I have two tickets in J on CX and one F seat just opened. I don't want to change my ticket as I need two seats in F. The AA rep told me that I can't put in hold as I can't double book. Can anyone advise me on how I can hold that F seat without giving up my seat in J?
Obviously not ideal, but you can give up 1 of your seats and book the F. If another F opens up, obviously switch your other J seat to it. If another F never opens, then on the plane offer the F seat to whoever is sitting next to your spouse - I'm sure they'll take the free upgrade! You would lost the extra miles of F over J, but that's a way to technically "pay" to hold the seat - you just can't get it refunded.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 04, 2014, 08:57:01 AM
I have two tickets in J on CX and one F seat just opened. I don't want to change my ticket as I need two seats in F. The AA rep told me that I can't put in hold as I can't double book. Can anyone advise me on how I can hold that F seat without giving up my seat in J?
Hold under another name.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on November 04, 2014, 09:09:34 AM
Hold under another name.
But how long can it actually stay on hold before it's no longer refundable?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 04, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
But how long can it actually stay on hold before it's no longer refundable?
Depending on when the flight is, up to 5 days.
This is a hold, no miles required.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 04, 2014, 09:38:19 AM
Obviously not ideal, but you can give up 1 of your seats and book the F. If another F opens up, obviously switch your other J seat to it. If another F never opens, then on the plane offer the F seat to whoever is sitting next to your spouse - I'm sure they'll take the free upgrade! You would lost the extra miles of F over J, but that's a way to technically "pay" to hold the seat - you just can't get it refunded.

Can't do that if on same PNR, and splitting has all the risks that entails.

And some Airlines will not allow you to play musical chairs between cabins.

Hold under another name.

No guarantee it will return to inventory if held in a other name then released.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on November 04, 2014, 09:48:31 AM
Any experience with EY? Do they go back to inventory after the hold expires?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 04, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
Can't do that if on same PNR, and splitting has all the risks that entails.

And some Airlines will not allow you to play musical chairs between cabins.

No guarantee it will return to inventory if held in a other name then released.
IME, it almost always goes back immediately and in rare cases takes up to an hour.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 04, 2014, 10:12:39 AM
IME, it almost always goes back immediately and in rare cases takes up to an hour.
Definitely does not always go back.  If someone buys a rev ticket in the interim it can stop the seat from going back into award inventory.  Just had that happen myself with CX F.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on November 04, 2014, 10:18:58 AM
Definitely does not always go back.  If someone buys a rev ticket in the interim it can stop the seat from going back into award inventory.  Just had that happen myself with CX F.
People still do that these days? :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: joetraveler on November 09, 2014, 10:05:25 PM
Can someone offer suggestions on how to book Aadvantage award tickets to/from the US and Europe, and avoid BA and their hefty fuel surcharges? I want to return to LAX in June, and I'm willing to depart from just about anywhere in Europe, and all the coach awards get dumped on BA metal. Any ideas?

Thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: BarryLincoln on November 09, 2014, 10:07:36 PM
Can someone offer suggestions on how to book Aadvantage award tickets to/from the US and Europe, and avoid BA and their hefty fuel surcharges? I want to return to LAX in June, and I'm willing to depart from just about anywhere in Europe, and all the coach awards get dumped on BA metal. Any ideas?

Thanks

AA flies to a number of cities in Europe including London, Zurich, Rome and several others where you can fly on AA metal to avoid BA YQ.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on November 09, 2014, 10:08:14 PM
And also look at Iberia. They charge YQ but less than BA. Or US airways.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: joetraveler on November 09, 2014, 10:20:29 PM
Every time I check the AA award site, all the available flights are on BA metal (through LRH). When I uncheck the BA airline option, all the flights are greyed out. Is there another strategy?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on November 09, 2014, 10:44:24 PM
Every time I check the AA award site, all the available flights are on BA metal (through LRH). When I uncheck the BA airline option, all the flights are greyed out. Is there another strategy?
No! That means there is nothing available on aa or us metal.
You could call and find out about jet airways availability
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on November 10, 2014, 12:16:21 AM
And also look at Iberia. They charge YQ but less than BA. Or US airways.
+ Air Berlin.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 10, 2014, 05:47:27 AM
No! That means there is nothing available on aa or us metal.
You could call and find out about jet airways availability
You can finally check 9W availability online.
http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/JetPrivilege/awardflightsfinder.aspx
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on November 10, 2014, 10:31:57 AM
You can finally check 9W availability online.
http://www.jetairways.com/EN/IN/JetPrivilege/awardflightsfinder.aspx
Finally.  I never managed to find more then 1/2 seats per flight.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on November 10, 2014, 10:40:24 AM
How do you use this search engine?  :o

Does this mean that they have 5 seats available ????
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shimino1 on November 10, 2014, 02:02:08 PM
I tried booking a multi city award on AA.com: NYC-DEN, layover in denver for less then 24 hours and then continue to TLV.

The award prices out as two seprate trips insted of one.
What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 10, 2014, 02:22:39 PM
I tried booking a multi city award on AA.com: NYC-DEN, layover in denver for less then 24 hours and then continue to TLV.

The award prices out as two seprate trips insted of one.
What am I doing wrong?
PUTPAC.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on November 10, 2014, 02:25:42 PM
No direct flight DEN-TLV. You have to go back to NY. I don't get it, you want to go backwards? Is it a hidden city?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shimino1 on November 10, 2014, 02:36:58 PM
No direct flight DEN-TLV. You have to go back to NY. I don't get it, you want to go backwards? Is it a hidden city?
I want to visit someone in Denver.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shimino1 on November 10, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
PUTPAC.
As in, it should work but I have to call to book or PUTPAC to see if it could work?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Lunatic on November 19, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
Looking at flights from phl to yow. I was using the aa site to check saver availability to fly using avios and noticed that there are no standard award seats at all on these flights. Anyone else come across that? Seems odd,  because they are Usair flights.
Also, it was not able to show the flight map and available seats
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 19, 2014, 11:20:49 AM
Looking at flights from phl to yow. I was using the aa site to check saver availability to fly using avios and noticed that there are no standard award seats at all on these flights. Anyone else come across that? Seems odd,  because they are Usair flights.
Also, it was not able to show the flight map and available seats
AA.com doesn't show US standard awards yet.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on November 22, 2014, 09:45:57 PM
Any opinions on an 18 year old traveling through AUH on EY in First or business?
Is there anything to be worried about regarding safety in the airport/in general?(3 HR stop over)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 22, 2014, 10:49:09 PM
Any opinions on an 18 year old traveling through AUH on EY in First or business?
Is there anything to be worried about regarding safety in the airport/in general?(3 HR stop over)

Wrong thread.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on November 22, 2014, 10:56:34 PM
Wrong thread.

Show me where to post it.
Thanks.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: reed on November 23, 2014, 01:17:16 AM
So would like to travel to Paris in March. I have us air miles not AA. I see AA is off peak then and US is not. Anyway to transfer my points to AA to take advantage of their cheaper point price?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 23, 2014, 01:23:48 AM
So would like to travel to Paris in March. I have us air miles not AA. I see AA is off peak then and US is not. Anyway to transfer my points to AA to take advantage of their cheaper point price?

No.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: reed on November 23, 2014, 01:45:58 AM
BUST. Ok noob at all this so maybe you can tell me whats best way to go about booking reward tickets using usair miles? Cheapest, best availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on November 26, 2014, 01:34:05 AM
When does CX typically open up F availability NYC<>HKG. Im looking for two seats.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on November 26, 2014, 01:36:49 AM
When does CX typically open up F availability NYC<>HKG. Im looking for two seats.

I could be wrong but I believe they open up closer to departure
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on November 26, 2014, 01:37:40 AM
I could be wrong but I believe they open up closer to departure
Yeah.. But Im looking for some more detailed data. If there is....
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on November 26, 2014, 01:45:03 AM
Yeah.. But Im looking for some more detailed data. If there is....

HEres a write up,, http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/08/05/cathay-pacific-first-class-award-availability-trends/

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on December 08, 2014, 06:41:30 AM
Is there any way to check Aer Lingus availability in business class that's bookable with with BA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 08, 2014, 06:46:38 AM
Is there any way to check Aer Lingus availability in business class that's bookable with with BA?
United.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on December 08, 2014, 09:03:09 AM
United.
And qantas
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stokes on December 08, 2014, 11:50:22 AM
i have also been looking for CX availability in J or F for JFk to YVR for the past few weeks and i see almost nothing available - is BA the best place for searching this route?
have lots of points to use - need to find opportunities to use them....
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
i have also been looking for CX availability in J or F for JFk to YVR for the past few weeks and i see almost nothing available - is BA the best place for searching this route?
have lots of points to use - need to find opportunities to use them....
Try AA
J usually opens up 2 weeks before departure or less
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stokes on December 08, 2014, 01:09:56 PM
Try AA
J usually opens up 2 weeks before departure or less

do you mean for CX awards to check AA online??
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 01:11:13 PM
do you mean for CX awards to check AA online??
No, CX can only be booked with AA by phone and J only within 2 weeks of departure
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stokes on December 08, 2014, 01:25:33 PM
No, CX can only be booked with AA by phone and J only within 2 weeks of departure

thats what i thought - will try, thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stokes on December 08, 2014, 01:34:46 PM
no luck - called AA - checked everything from now until jan 3 - no J or F availability on CX, JFk to YVR.
anyone recently fly this route?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 08, 2014, 04:18:43 PM
Likely won't open for a few more weeks.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stokes on December 08, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
Likely won't open for a few more weeks.

why is that?  is December usually sans awards on CX?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 08, 2014, 11:44:11 PM
Has anyone ever completed a successful QMAX request to AA revenue management with no status?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on December 09, 2014, 01:52:42 AM
Has anyone ever completed a successful QMAX request to AA revenue management with no status?
I think these is one of the things that only works for the bloggers......
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bb1836 on December 11, 2014, 08:04:55 PM
Looking for Jfk to lax 1/15-1/20
Need help pls! Either I'm searching wrong or everything is really unavailable
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 11, 2014, 08:08:34 PM
Looking for Jfk to lax 1/15-1/20
Need help pls! Either I'm searching wrong or everything is really unavailable

Clearly searching wrong.

(http://i.gyazo.com/8ff83eda45fde53f14cc4455dfbbb674.png)

(http://i.gyazo.com/8a027582c81c3053ed956c85f6d6ceba.png)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: upside down on December 16, 2014, 11:32:13 PM
sorry for the noob question, does AA allow one way domestic award tickets for 12.5k or only roundtrip? thank you
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on December 16, 2014, 11:44:05 PM
sorry for the noob question, does AA allow one way domestic award tickets for 12.5k or only roundtrip? thank you
They allow OW.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: upside down on December 17, 2014, 08:00:57 AM
Thank you
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: deusconsilio on December 18, 2014, 12:54:37 PM
$100 Reward via Paypal for assistance here. AJK can vouch for me.

Trying to get from NYC to New Zealand round trip using AA points. My wife and I have just over 145,000 AA a piece.  I'm getting out of the points game and want to go out with a bang, but I don't have the time or the energy to find the right routes. I know the LAX-SYD route via Quantas is impossible. My wife and I are very flexible.

Free advice is great, but $100 goes to the person who recommends a round trip route that results in a reservation. Route standards:
1. Includes a "top 2" 1st class experience for anything in excess of 8 hours. If necessary, we are happy to do business anything <8hrs>3hrs, and we will do economy for any flight less than 3 hours
2. 3 weeks in NZ
3. Preference for End of Feb-March, but may accept anything that works since we have our hearts set on NZ.

Feel free to message me directly.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on December 29, 2014, 12:49:42 PM
Dont know if this belongs here, tell me if not!

Wanna cancel or change a leg on my AA award reservation, a flight on BA, they are asking me in any case a $150 fee,  is there a way around it, as Im not canceling the entire ticket just the last leg? (and I wanna do it as the taxes are more then $150 ;))

TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on December 29, 2014, 12:51:06 PM
Ar
Dont know if this belongs here, tell me if not!

Wanna cancel or change a leg on my AA award reservation, a flight on BA, they are asking me in any case a $150 fee,  is there a way around it, as Im not canceling the entire ticket just the last leg? (and I wanna do it as the taxes are more then $150 ;))

TIA
Are you changing orig/dest?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on December 29, 2014, 12:51:48 PM
Changing destination
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on December 29, 2014, 12:53:28 PM
Changing destination
Then you have to pay.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on December 29, 2014, 12:56:50 PM
 :'( :'(

No way around it :-[
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on December 29, 2014, 02:51:15 PM
If I book on EY and want to change the flight to a different airline say QF but same departure and arrival city is their a charge? (Is EY fully part of OW)
Does QF F open up closer to the date? (LHR-SIN)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: dovmongi on December 30, 2014, 03:11:49 AM
First post to these forums so I hope this is a right place for this:

I'm trying to book a flight from Buenos Aires (AEP) to El Calafate (FTE) as part of a larger Aadvantage award originating in the US (terminating in El Calafate).
I did the ol' check LAN availability on the BA Avios site trick and see the perfect flight with 7 seats available.

BUT when I try to tack that leg on to my journey calling Aadvantage gold desk, they say there's no award availability for that route leg that day. What gives? Has LAN given availability to BA that it hasn't given to other alliance members?

Incidentally, it's also weird that the AA rep was able to see the same flight I was seeing on BA.com (LA4434) BUT with a different time than what BA shows. (ExperFlyer agrees with what AA rep told me).

So any idea what's going on? And any idea how likely it is to get that leg tacked on to my AA award ticket?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on December 31, 2014, 01:00:24 AM
Is there anyway to avoid the $75 AA close in fee, without status?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on December 31, 2014, 10:41:48 AM
I see a USAir flight available on AA as saver business, however on BA.com won't show up

i called them and the agent insist she doesn't see any seats on that flights, what could be the reason for this?

EDIT: Never mind, HUCA worked as usual.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on January 15, 2015, 01:54:54 PM
How do I search for CX flights using KVS Tool being that I need a membership number and CX charges to join?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 15, 2015, 02:44:22 PM
How do I search for CX flights using KVS Tool being that I need a membership number and CX charges to join?

BA Oneworld.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on January 15, 2015, 02:46:42 PM
BA Oneworld.
I know. I thought there might be a work around to do it on KVS.
Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 15, 2015, 02:50:23 PM
I am talking about KVS.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on January 15, 2015, 02:52:31 PM
I am talking about KVS.
Thanks got it,it works!
I was using Awards/Oneworld.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 15, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Thanks got it,it works!
I was using Awards/Oneworld.
Thats gives you QFs availability.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on January 15, 2015, 04:04:20 PM
Thats gives you QFs availability.
I was wondering why it's missing most of OW.....and I figured BA is BA because usually the rule is what it says is what it means.....apparently not.
We learn new things all the time!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KVS on January 20, 2015, 06:39:56 PM
I was wondering why it's missing most of OW.....and I figured BA is BA because usually the rule is what it says is what it means.....apparently not.
We learn new things all the time!

Please consult the KVS Tool User Guide to select the most appropriate Method:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#CX

How do I search for CX flights using KVS Tool being that I need a membership number and CX charges to join?

If you would like to use the [Awards/CX-OneWorld] Method, there is no charge to join AM -- please click the [?] button in the KVS Tool and follow the sign-up link.


I am talking about KVS.

Thanks got it,it works!
I was using Awards/Oneworld.

AJK: Thanks for helping nobiggy!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Mocha on January 27, 2015, 03:36:53 PM
Does cathay Asia Miles have better inventory for J?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 27, 2015, 04:14:51 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Mocha on February 03, 2015, 10:19:06 PM
Is LGA-JFK considered co-terminals for an award flight? Can I change the destination from one to the other without a change fee? HKG-BOS-LGA to HKG-JFK?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 03, 2015, 10:52:01 PM
Is LGA-JFK considered co-terminals for an award flight? Can I change the destination from one to the other without a change fee? HKG-BOS-LGA to HKG-JFK?
AA will charge you.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: aradisc on February 11, 2015, 08:50:23 PM
Anyone know why BA would be able to see J award space on QR that QF can't?

Comparing using KVS tool (though I know it's not a KVS problem, I've verified results on the respective sites)

IAD-DOH on Nov 9

QF: 
Code: [Select]
QR         708     IAD   20:20     DOH   17:00 +1       0   FS-  CS-  WS/  YS+BA: 
Code: [Select]
QR         708     IAD   20:20     DOH   17:00 +1           FS/  CS3  WS/  YS8
Which result is most likely to mirror what AA can access?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KVS on February 11, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Anyone know why BA would be able to see J award space on QR that QF can't?

Comparing using KVS tool (though I know it's not a KVS problem, I've verified results on the respective sites)

IAD-DOH on Nov 9

QF: 
Code: [Select]
QR         708     IAD   20:20     DOH   17:00 +1       0   FS-  CS-  WS/  YS+BA: 
Code: [Select]
QR         708     IAD   20:20     DOH   17:00 +1           FS/  CS3  WS/  YS8
Which result is most likely to mirror what AA can access?

As noted in the KVS Tool User Guide, [Awards/BA-OneWorld] is the preferred Method for QR Award Availability:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#QR
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 12, 2015, 12:02:53 AM
It says to use [Awards/OneWorld] as well. Unlike CX where it specifically says to use JL.

Just sayin
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: aradisc on February 12, 2015, 06:32:09 AM
As noted in the KVS Tool User Guide, [Awards/BA-OneWorld] is the preferred Method for QR Award Availability:

Huh. I had no idea that the order on that table meant priority if it wasn't otherwise noted.

Also, I'm pretty sure that I could see that exact availability I referenced on QF a few weeks ago. They seem to have lost some access, and I wonder if it extends to AA. Will put in a call to see.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KVS on February 12, 2015, 03:19:11 PM
It says to use [Awards/OneWorld] as well. Unlike CX where it specifically says to use JL.

Just sayin

Huh. I had no idea that the order on that table meant priority if it wasn't otherwise noted.

Indeed, in the KVS Tool User Guide, multiple Methods are, generally, listed in the order of preference.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: aradisc on February 12, 2015, 08:56:00 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure that I could see that exact availability I referenced on QF a few weeks ago. They seem to have lost some access, and I wonder if it extends to AA. Will put in a call to see.

Confirmed J and Y available with AA. So also confirmed that QF is not able to see QR J for some reason, and it seems to have started recently.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chaimmayer on February 15, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
I am sure this is black and white somewhere so thanks for answering anyway

If flying one way on aa award ticket can make a stop (connection) for less than 24 hours.

Can I fly Jax - ord spend 23 hours in Chicago and then continue ord - Phl - Tlv all for 45k miles?
Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 16, 2015, 12:25:30 AM
From what I remember, BA was displaying RJ award availability. Did anything change? I don't see anything showing up....
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 16, 2015, 12:27:59 AM
From what I remember, BA was displaying RJ award availability. Did anything change? I don't see anything showing up....
I purchased RJ with Avios in December. I had a very hard time finding though
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 16, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
I purchased RJ with Avios in December. I had a very hard time finding though
Its showing up on AA but not on BA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 16, 2015, 09:52:16 AM
Its showing up on AA but not on BA.
So Putpac. BTW, only J was was available when I searched
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 18, 2015, 11:45:40 PM
WTH are these fuel charges all about?   :o

I thought BA does not charge YQ on AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on February 18, 2015, 11:48:35 PM

WTH are these fuel charges all about?   :o

I thought BA does not charge YQ on AA.

IME BA charges YQ on US and AA cross Atlantic flights
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yoshi on February 19, 2015, 06:54:57 AM
How does Cathay availability work? Do they open up first class space close to a flight? if so when?
thanks :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 19, 2015, 07:12:21 AM
How does Cathay availability work? Do they open up first class space close to a flight? if so when?
thanks :)
Yes. Starting from 3 weeks but usually 3-1 day in advance.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on February 19, 2015, 07:14:13 AM
WTH are these fuel charges all about?   :o

I thought BA does not charge YQ on AA.
That's only if the flight is entirely in the Western Hemisphere IINM.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yoshi on February 19, 2015, 07:14:55 AM
Yes. Starting from 3 weeks but usually 3-1 day in advance.
thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on February 28, 2015, 11:41:09 PM
I have a flight from ZRH -PHL -LGA on US airways
If availability opens on AA direct ZRH - JFK, will I have to pay a change fee to change it?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 28, 2015, 11:50:10 PM
I have a flight from ZRH -PHL -LGA on US airways
If availability opens on AA direct ZRH - JFK, will I have to pay a change fee to change it?
Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on March 01, 2015, 12:01:13 AM
Yes.
Because of change of airport or change of airline?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on March 01, 2015, 12:02:12 AM
Because of change of airport or change of airline?
Airport 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 01, 2015, 05:31:45 AM
I have a flight from ZRH -PHL -LGA on US airways
If availability opens on AA direct ZRH - JFK, will I have to pay a change fee to change it?
Plus a $75 close in fee, if you have not payed it yet.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on March 01, 2015, 08:15:59 AM
I have wedding in London 4/20
There is (on ua website) aer lingus j availability bos-dub but thinking shlep nyc-bos//dub-lhr (9k avios) makes this not so worth it... But then again any ba flight will have high yq...
Thoughts?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on March 01, 2015, 08:38:37 AM
I have wedding in London 4/20
There is (on ua website) aer lingus j availability bos-dub but thinking shlep nyc-bos//dub-lhr (9k avios) makes this not so worth it... But then again any ba flight will have high yq...
Thoughts?
You only have BA points?
Wait until Closer in and book United with 45k AC each way and no YQ.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on March 01, 2015, 09:05:52 AM
You only have BA points?
Wait until Closer in and book United with 45k AC each way and no YQ.
Is that j?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on March 01, 2015, 10:52:22 AM
Update - ba says no avail on aer lingus. Does it open up closer?
Also just chapped going anywhere but London first is good because then I can book it as stopover and avoid the ridiculous airport fee...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on March 01, 2015, 12:56:29 PM
Is that j?
Of course.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on March 15, 2015, 02:30:04 AM
Found award availability on aa  for JFK to phx on business/first for 25k, bookable on ba for 35k , isn't ba usually less? Also not seeing any availability on economy for my dates 4/16 and availability hasn't changed in almost a week does it usually open up later on closer to the flight dates?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on March 15, 2015, 02:37:55 AM
Found award availability on aa  for JFK to phx on business/first for 25k, bookable on ba for 35k , isn't ba usually less?
BA should be 37.5k. And BA is more in domestic F on 2 class planes - because they charge 3 times Y as supposed to 2 times Y.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on March 15, 2015, 02:42:45 AM
BA should be 37.5k. And BA is more in domestic F on 2 class planes - because they charge 3 times Y as supposed to 2 times Y.
OK thanks, you were correct on the rate it's 37.5k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on March 15, 2015, 04:37:48 AM


Update - ba says no avail on aer lingus. Does it open up closer?

Ridiculously hard to get availability
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on March 18, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
I thought OW's RTW award was dead? https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on March 18, 2015, 01:48:34 PM
I thought OW's RTW award was dead? https://rtw.oneworld.com/rtw/
AA RTW awards are dead. Your link is life on another planet
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on March 18, 2015, 04:37:42 PM
AA RTW awards are dead. Your link is life on another planet
Meaning new rates?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on March 18, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
Meaning new rates?
Revenue.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on March 18, 2015, 04:46:37 PM
Revenue.
Oh. Gulp.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on March 18, 2015, 05:17:39 PM
Revenue.
And it's not even (limited to) AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on March 22, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Is there another way to search for Cathay availability besides ba if I'm planning to use avios
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on March 22, 2015, 07:56:18 PM
Is there another way to search for Cathay availability besides ba if I'm planning to use avios
forget it found my answer up thread either Asia Miles  or Qantas, and I'm assuming that they are bookable on ba even if ba isn't showing availability, correct?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 22, 2015, 08:18:33 PM
Is there another way to search for Cathay availability besides ba if I'm planning to use avios
JL.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on March 23, 2015, 12:33:22 AM
JL.
huh
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on March 23, 2015, 12:49:22 AM
huh
JAL Japan airlines
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on March 23, 2015, 01:01:04 AM
JAL Japan airlines
OK thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: BBPAPA on March 31, 2015, 03:59:42 PM
Can you book/search online for One World using JAL's website?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on March 31, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
Can you book/search online for One World using JAL's website?
Having issues with BA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 01, 2015, 02:13:54 PM
I would like to fly from jfk to Vancouver on Cathay Pacific. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get the suites on CP? Thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 01, 2015, 02:36:16 PM
I would like to fly from jfk to Vancouver on Cathay Pacific. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get the suites on CP? Thanks
What's that?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DMYD on April 01, 2015, 02:38:56 PM
What's that?
Probably means CX
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 01, 2015, 02:43:47 PM

Probably means CX
Yep I did!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 01, 2015, 03:11:29 PM
Probably means CX
Yep I did!
Still confused, CX doesn't have suites.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 01, 2015, 03:12:22 PM

CX doesn't have suites.

I for some resin thought they did. What's the best way to book first class, and any tips for flying with an infant?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 01, 2015, 03:14:25 PM
What's the best way to book first class
CX F - use BA.com to search for CX availability.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 01, 2015, 03:15:17 PM

Best way is to book CX F, use BA.com to search for CX availability.

Using what points?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 01, 2015, 03:15:59 PM
Using what points?
37.5k BA or 32.5k AA OW
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on April 01, 2015, 03:38:00 PM
I for some resin thought they did. What's the best way to book first class, and any tips for flying with an infant?
Check the infant thread.

Lots of space on CX F.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 01, 2015, 11:10:25 PM
Check the infant thread.

Lots of space on CX F.

Do i need to use BA to book on CX F or can I book using AA miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 01, 2015, 11:32:45 PM
Do i need to use BA to book on CX F or can I book using AA miles?
37.5k BA or 32.5k AA OW
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 01, 2015, 11:33:48 PM


I cant see anything on AA and i do see it on BA. is there a good way to search?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 01, 2015, 11:38:11 PM
I cant see anything on AA and i do see it on BA. is there a good way to search?
Use BA.com to search, but if you want to use AA miles to book it, you need to call AA to book it, AA can't book CX online.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AharonInIsrael on April 06, 2015, 05:00:57 PM
I found some IB availability on their website that wasn't showing up on Qantas, but when I tried to get it to price, it kept giving me an error message. Is this normal?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AharonInIsrael on April 08, 2015, 09:46:44 AM
I found some IB availability on their website that wasn't showing up on Qantas, but when I tried to get it to price, it kept giving me an error message. Is this normal?
I'm still having this same issue. Anyone else have/having problems with Iberia's website?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on April 08, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
I'm still having this same issue. Anyone else have/having problems with Iberia's website?
Why are you using Iberia's website?
And IB shows availability for higher mileage that partners won't have access to. BA may be a better bet to search.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AharonInIsrael on April 09, 2015, 06:37:08 AM
Why are you using Iberia's website?
And IB shows availability for higher mileage that partners won't have access to. BA may be a better bet to search.
I thought that maybe Iberia might show some regular-priced availability through their own site that they don't show on partners, similar to how some other airlines would. Is that correct?

I just don't really like BA's search engine- too many frustrating experiences :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: alonw on April 19, 2015, 11:54:03 PM
Hello,

Can someone show me how I can use 1 set of miles to book multiple destinations with extended stopovers.
I am in Australia. Want to leave CNS to HNL on 6/2, then HNL to LAX on 6/16, then LAX to MIA 7/7. I know if I book all of that together in 1 flight its 37,500 AA miles. If I try to do multiple destinations it gives me different miles for each leg of the trip.

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 12:15:27 AM
Hello,

Can someone show me how I can use 1 set of miles to book multiple destinations with extended stopovers.
I am in Australia. Want to leave CNS to HNL on 6/2, then HNL to LAX on 6/16, then LAX to MIA 7/7. I know if I book all of that together in 1 flight its 37,500 AA miles. If I try to do multiple destinations it gives me different miles for each leg of the trip.

This is doable with JAL miles, not AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: alonw on April 20, 2015, 12:22:15 AM
This is doable with JAL miles, not AA.

What is JAL? I only have AA and BA miles :(
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: alonw on April 20, 2015, 12:28:08 AM
What is JAL? I only have AA and BA miles :(

Ok, sorry, a quick google search helped. How can I move these miles to JAL? Is that possible and is there a way to do it if once I arrived I asked to extend?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 12:31:46 AM
Ok, sorry, a quick google search helped. How can I move these miles to JAL? Is that possible and is there a way to do it if once I arrived I asked to extend?

Cannot transfer AA/BA to JL. SPG transfers to JL.

Your routing will require separate awards for each segment using AA/BA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dave A on April 21, 2015, 12:00:17 AM
I'm searching Iberia's website for a OW ORD-TLV in Y and it's telling me I can book for 32.5k Avios + $ 132.97 ... is that normal?  Considered a good deal?  (Apologize if the answer is in another thread ... been working on accumulating points the past few months but new to booking with those points...thanks)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 21, 2015, 12:05:22 AM
I'm searching Iberia's website for a OW ORD-TLV in Y and it's telling me I can book for 32.5k Avios + $ 132.97 ... is that normal?  Considered a good deal?  (Apologize if the answer is in another thread ... been working on accumulating points the past few months but new to booking with those points...thanks)
Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on April 21, 2015, 01:24:09 PM
Which airports in Europe should I search for flights leaving TLV if I'm using avios? Thanks.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 21, 2015, 01:46:21 PM
Which airports in Europe should I search for flights leaving TLV if I'm using avios? Thanks.
TXL/MUC/LHR/VIE
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dave A on April 21, 2015, 02:43:36 PM
I'm searching Iberia's website for a OW ORD-TLV in Y and it's telling me I can book for 32.5k Avios + $ 132.97 ... is that normal?  Considered a good deal?  (Apologize if the answer is in another thread ... been working on accumulating points the past few months but new to booking with those points...thanks)

Yes.

Any way around the 90-day Iberia Avios account rule (for Avios transfers)?  I want to transfer UR to BA Avios and then transfer those to Iberia.   Thanks.   
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 21, 2015, 08:54:24 PM
Is there anyway to search for BA awards a month or week at a time. I am searching by day and its driving me crazy! I have checked almost two weeks worth for CX from jfk to yvr and it is saying there are no flights...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: an613 on April 21, 2015, 09:50:06 PM

Is there anyway to search for BA awards a month or week at a time. I am searching by day and its driving me crazy! I have checked almost two weeks worth for CX from jfk to yvr and it is saying there are no flights...

You can get a month at a time on qantas site
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 22, 2015, 09:22:44 AM
You can get a month at a time on qantas site

and Qantas shows CX F?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on April 22, 2015, 09:27:04 AM
Yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 22, 2015, 09:34:36 AM
Which airports in Europe should I search for flights leaving TLV if I'm using avios? Thanks.
TXL/MUC/LHR/VIE
And MAD/BCN
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on April 22, 2015, 12:23:04 PM
I only have BA points not Iberia. Does that make a difference?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 22, 2015, 01:14:24 PM
And MAD/BCN
True. Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 22, 2015, 01:15:03 PM
I only have BA points not Iberia. Does that make a difference?
No (plus you can transfer BA to IB).
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dave A on April 22, 2015, 03:50:40 PM
No (plus you can transfer BA to IB).

But only if you've had IB account open 90+ days, correct? (Or is there a workaround?  Asked this a day or two ago but no response.  Thanks)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on April 22, 2015, 06:20:26 PM
There isn't any availability with Iberia for the dates I need...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 23, 2015, 08:55:35 AM
So i am looked on BA for CX F and didnt find anything and then i looked on Qantas month long calendar and found only a couple of flights over a 6 week period. I thought they was great availability for this flight...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2015, 09:44:03 AM
So i am looked on BA for CX F and didnt find anything and then i looked on Qantas month long calendar and found only a couple of flights over a 6 week period. I thought they was great availability for this flight...

Would help to know, you know, *which* flight.

In any event, CX is known to either release right at window or within 36 hours or so.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 23, 2015, 09:47:43 AM
JFK to yvr
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 23, 2015, 09:59:51 AM
I see that there is a $75 close in award award fee booking for AA. Is there a way around it even if i do not have status, just a yes or a no will suffice, and i will know what to do if its yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: coralsnake on April 23, 2015, 10:00:52 AM
I see that there is a $75 close in award award fee booking for AA. Is there a way around it even if i do not have status, just a yes or a no will suffice, and i will know what to do if its yes.
No
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Mocha on May 03, 2015, 11:09:54 AM
Which miles and i most likely to score 4 J tickets during peak travel from US-Australia on QF?

Want to do a trip 2016 x-mas and want to start amassing points at the program with the best availability. (From what I hear it is not AA)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dave A on May 03, 2015, 04:24:54 PM
There's an Air Berlin flight I want to book OW with points (ORD-TLV with a stopover in DUS).  Can I book with either AA points or Avios?  (Same amount of points?)  Also, do you have to call either AA or BA to book that award travel?  Thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 03, 2015, 05:04:24 PM
Which miles and i most likely to score 4 J tickets during peak travel from US-Australia on QF?

Want to do a trip 2016 x-mas and want to start amassing points at the program with the best availability. (From what I hear it is not AA)

Buy a lottery ticket.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on May 03, 2015, 05:05:44 PM
There's an Air Berlin flight I want to book OW with points (ORD-TLV with a stopover in DUS).  Can I book with either AA points or Avios?
Yes
Quote
(Same amount of points?)

Y or J?
Quote
Also, do you have to call either AA or BA to book that award travel?  Thanks
Both are bookable online, if it's not showing up, then PUTPAC
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dave A on May 03, 2015, 05:14:29 PM
Yes
Y or J? Both are bookable online, if it's not showing up, then PUTPAC

Economy.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on May 03, 2015, 05:15:19 PM
Economy.

BA is 35k
AA is 45k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Mocha on May 03, 2015, 06:00:05 PM
Buy a lottery ticket.
Any other carriers that are more likely to be available?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Dave A on May 03, 2015, 07:23:53 PM
BA is 35k
AA is 45k

And you can't book it with AA miles by calling JAL or LAN to book it for fewer than 45k? (Or can you not book on Air Berlin through those airlines?)  Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on May 04, 2015, 12:49:14 AM
And you can't book it with AA miles by calling JAL or LAN to book it for fewer than 45k? (Or can you not book on Air Berlin through those airlines?)  Thanks for all the help.
You can't book through JAL or LAN using AA miles, if you have JAL or LAN miles, that would be a different story.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on May 13, 2015, 10:54:27 AM
Looking at CX flights from HKG - JFK tomorrow (cx0846) there is still no availability yet there is showing at least 7 blocked seats on expert flyer any particular reason why they do this
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 13, 2015, 12:54:42 PM
Looking at CX flights from HKG - JFK tomorrow (cx0846) there is still no availability yet there is showing at least 7 blocked seats on expert flyer any particular reason why they do this
What cabin you looking for.

Below is the flight load.

F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 I4 W6 R6 E6 Y6 B6 H6 K5 M5 L4 V3 S2 N1 Q0 O 0
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 13, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
What cabin you looking for.

Below is the flight load.

F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 I4 W6 R6 E6 Y6 B6 H6 K5 M5 L4 V3 S2 N1 Q0 O 0

I.e. Don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on May 13, 2015, 01:27:48 PM
What cabin you looking for.

Below is the flight load.

F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 I4 W6 R6 E6 Y6 B6 H6 K5 M5 L4 V3 S2 N1 Q0 O 0
I.e. Don't hold your breath.
truth is, was looking at tomorrow to see if there was a particular pattern, I really need for next Thursday the 21st, in j, and ewr is also fine,
Need to get my father home in time for shavuos :-[
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on May 15, 2015, 01:38:56 PM
  truth is, was looking at tomorrow to see if there was a particular pattern, I really need for next Thursday the 21st, in j, and ewr is also fine,
Need to get my father home in time for shavuos :-[
b"h found
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Wheelerdealer on May 21, 2015, 03:05:21 PM
Can someone add to the wiki how to search for a cx ticket?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: EMCC on May 21, 2015, 11:14:52 PM
Is there a way to book hkg to TLV  in business thru gh Europe for 30k? Which airline and how to search?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: avadah on May 31, 2015, 05:17:17 PM
Is there a way to see all direct One World destinations from Singapore?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yuguy on June 18, 2015, 05:03:52 PM
BA shows LAN award availability for economy, business, first--but their flights are only econ and business: that space in first is phantom space, or just doesn't show up in the right category correctly?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on June 22, 2015, 01:10:14 AM
Anybody have suggestions on booking F or J on AA FCO-JFK?

When is the best time to book?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: robbie on June 22, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
I have a quantas ticket booked with aa. I need to change the date and nothing is open at the moment. Is it normal for flights to open up closer to departure date? (less then a month away)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on June 26, 2015, 02:48:02 AM
Is the best way to search QR award space on BA.com?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: DP7 on July 02, 2015, 09:58:48 AM
Has Expanded Award Seating Availability for AAdvantage Executive Platinum been helpful to anyone?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Wheelerdealer on July 07, 2015, 12:29:47 AM
Can someone update the Wiki to include CX-F flying options
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Wheelerdealer on July 07, 2015, 01:09:15 AM
Looking to travel from YVR or SFO to HNG on the 747 CX FIRST (heard its a great experience)
I was told it would cost 67.5 AA miles OW
How would I go about booking this?
over the phone w aa?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 07, 2015, 01:18:57 AM


Looking to travel from YVR or SFO to HNG on the 747 CX FIRST (heard its a great experience)
I was told it would cost 67.5 AA miles OW
How would I go about booking this?
over the phone w aa?
Yes


Can someone update the Wiki to include CX-F flying options
No
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 07, 2015, 02:12:56 AM
Looking to travel from YVR or SFO to HNG on the 747 CX FIRST (heard its a great experience)
I was told it would cost 67.5 AA miles OW
How would I go about booking this?
over the phone w aa?
CX doesn't fly to HNG.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 07, 2015, 02:14:56 AM
CX doesn't fly to HNG.
LOL
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Wheelerdealer on July 07, 2015, 09:01:58 AM
Sorry about that I meant HKG
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 07, 2015, 09:45:43 AM
CX doesn't fly 747 to North America.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Wheelerdealer on July 08, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
I thought they only fly the 747 direct from YVR or SFO to HKG
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2015, 05:36:33 PM
...and Aristotle thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 08, 2015, 07:45:47 PM
...and Aristotle thought the Sun revolved around the Earth.
Paging JJ
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 10, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
Is DragonAir searchable on BA.com?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shauly on July 10, 2015, 10:35:21 AM
Is DragonAir searchable on BA.com?

Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Zkpncs48 on July 12, 2015, 03:41:07 PM
Did CX raise the mileage required for JFK-YVR in F? I seem to remember it was 30k and now I only see it for 40k.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Zkpncs48 on July 13, 2015, 02:29:18 AM
Did CX raise the mileage required for JFK-YVR in F? I seem to remember it was 30k and now I only see it for 40k.
bump
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 13, 2015, 08:15:49 PM
Been 40k for a while now.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 26, 2015, 11:22:30 PM
Does it make sense that adding an IB flight MAD-TLV to an AA Award JFK-MAD (AA Metal) itinirary would add $100 in taxes and fees
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on September 01, 2015, 05:09:41 PM
if a CX flight shows up on asiamiles site, but not BA, will AA/BA have availability to it if i call them?
has anyone ever experienced where asiamiles showed availability but partners didn't have access?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on September 01, 2015, 05:14:18 PM

if a CX flight shows up on asiamiles site, but not BA, will AA/BA have availability to it if i call them?
has anyone ever experienced where asiamiles showed availability but partners didn't have access?

IINN CX releases more seats to their own program than to others.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on September 01, 2015, 05:18:20 PM
IINN CX releases more seats to their own program than to others.
I've read that as well, just curious if anyone had luck calling AA/BA and asking them to book a flight that shows up on asiamiles but not BA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on September 01, 2015, 05:36:07 PM
if a CX flight shows up on asiamiles site, but not BA, will AA/BA have availability to it if i call them?
has anyone ever experienced where asiamiles showed availability but partners didn't have access?
Yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on September 01, 2015, 05:50:33 PM
Yes
Grr, i wish i could turn back the clock to 2007 http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/2247
Title: get AA to open Economy MileSAAver
Post by: yossnech on September 20, 2015, 07:34:48 PM
Is there any way to get AA to open a Economy MileSAAver ticket if it's not showing on the website? Any tricks?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on October 06, 2015, 09:45:26 PM
This is really frustrating, I see five seats available on cx from jfk to hkg(cx0841) for Wednesday yet aa shows nothing >:(
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on October 06, 2015, 10:01:07 PM
This is really frustrating, I see five seats available on cx from jfk to hkg(cx0841) for Wednesday yet aa shows nothing >:(
You need to call AA to book.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on October 06, 2015, 10:02:01 PM
Exactly what I did and called as also, nothing doing
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on October 06, 2015, 10:20:21 PM
So I see availability on both ba and Asia miles, but nothing on aa and as,I guess that means that availability isn't shared equally, contrary to popular belief?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: a mirrer on October 07, 2015, 03:41:03 AM
So I see availability on both ba and Asia miles, but nothing on aa and as,I guess that means that availability isn't shared equally, contrary to popular belief?
iinm cx doesn't show online on aa or as websites
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: maxie m on October 07, 2015, 03:47:06 AM
iinm cx doesn't show online on aa or as websites
your correct,  but what's your point
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ajs625 on October 08, 2015, 09:54:34 PM
How far in advance does AA open up I or F award availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 21, 2015, 10:55:24 PM
I have an aa award on hold qf lax - mel ticket on hold with AA. I really should have booked it JFK-LAX-MEL which prices out at the same price. (145k RT)


Can I

A. Ask them to add on the jfk legs to the hold and book it?

B. Release the holds and rebook? (do they usually go back to inventory?)


TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on October 21, 2015, 11:44:09 PM


I have an aa award on hold qf lax - mel ticket on hold with AA. I really should have booked it JFK-LAX-MEL which prices out at the same price. (145k RT)


Can I

A. Ask them to add on the jfk legs to the hold and book it?

B. Release the holds and rebook? (do they usually go back to inventory?)


TIA

Call them and ask.
I once booked something online and I called right away to change before it ticketed and they changed it for me.

With QF it usually goes back into inventory.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: coralsnake on October 21, 2015, 11:46:40 PM
Call and have them add it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 22, 2015, 12:09:13 AM
Call and have them add it.
Add it to the hold? They can do that?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 22, 2015, 12:09:43 AM

Call them and ask.
I once booked something online and I called right away to change before it ticketed and they changed it for me.

With QF it usually goes back into inventory.
I would rather try to add it before booking - that way its forsure
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on October 22, 2015, 12:57:45 AM
Add it to the hold? They can do that?
Yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 22, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
Yes
Thanks!!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 23, 2015, 12:50:49 PM
If I cancel a qf ticket LAX - MEL that costs $100 in taxes  -  how much does that cost me?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2015, 01:21:57 PM
If I cancel a qf ticket LAX - MEL that costs $100 in taxes  -  how much does that cost me?

$150 fee.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 23, 2015, 01:28:17 PM
$150 fee.
So the $100 in taxes get refunded with the miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2015, 01:28:38 PM
So the $100 in taxes get refunded with the miles?

Correct.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 23, 2015, 01:28:58 PM
Correct.
Thanks!!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on October 27, 2015, 04:00:21 PM
How much will a trip from TLV - BKK - NYC - TLV with AA miles in biz going to price out? I cannot figure out how to get it to work on AA. Also what is my best routing? TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on October 27, 2015, 04:07:51 PM
How much will a trip from TLV - BKK - NYC - TLV with AA miles in biz going to price out? I cannot figure out how to get it to work on AA. Also what is my best routing? TIA
30k+55k+67.5k

How do you define "best routing" - best cabins? Least stops?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on October 27, 2015, 04:15:34 PM
Both best cabins and if possible shortest routing. Is there any better mileage to use for BKK - NYC -TLV?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on October 27, 2015, 04:21:07 PM
Both best cabins and if possible shortest routing.
TLV-AMM-BKK
BKK-HKG/NRT-NYC
NYC-PHL-TLV

Quote
Is there any better mileage to use for BKK - NYC -TLV?
BKK-NYC is best at 55k AA or 55k AS
NYC-TLV can be had for 57.5k SQ.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on October 27, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
SQ flying on UA? Thanks. Time to start earning the miles...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on October 27, 2015, 05:45:21 PM
SQ flying on UA? Thanks. Time to start earning the miles...
Yes (good luck finding availability).
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on October 27, 2015, 05:54:47 PM
Whats my other option then?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on October 27, 2015, 06:03:33 PM
Whats my other option then?
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/68732
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on October 27, 2015, 06:15:05 PM
Is it possible to book JetStar Airways (JQ) (Qantas' budget airline) with miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on October 27, 2015, 07:31:41 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/68732
Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehuda25 on October 27, 2015, 08:40:32 PM
Is it possible to book JetStar Airways (JQ) (Qantas' budget airline) with miles?
Used to be able to with AA

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1245863-archive-earning-redeeming-aa-miles-jq-jetstar-australia-consolidated.html

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on October 27, 2015, 10:41:08 PM
TLV-AMM-BKK
BKK-HKG/NRT-NYC
NYC-PHL-TLV
BKK-NYC is best at 55k AA or 55k AS
NYC-TLV can be had for 57.5k SQ.
Isn't AS 50k BKK-HKG-NYC?
Is it possible to book JetStar Airways (JQ) (Qantas' budget airline) with miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on October 27, 2015, 10:41:36 PM
Is it possible to book JetStar Airways (JQ) (Qantas' budget airline) with miles?
Qantas points
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 27, 2015, 11:31:36 PM
Is it possible to book JetStar Airways (JQ) (Qantas' budget airline) with miles?

Used to be able to with AA

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1245863-archive-earning-redeeming-aa-miles-jq-jetstar-australia-consolidated.html



I believe it also used to be possible with BA (maybe it still is?)

Anyway, I have a voucher if you're interested (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10538.msg1193135#msg1193135).
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on October 28, 2015, 01:07:11 AM
Isn't AS 50k BKK-HKG-NYC?
Thank you, I stand corrected.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on November 10, 2015, 03:41:06 PM
Trying to book the following flights with star alliance miles. Basically 2 OWs. madrid-prague (12/04) and prg- tlv (12/16). Is there any star alliance program that allows me to book as one ticket? what is the optimal way of booking this.

So I got PRG-TLV on the cheap for $125 and was looking to book MAD-PRG on 12/04 using 7.5k Avios. Well I couldn't have run into worse luck. Any other options?

(http://i.imgur.com/d4CQL2z.png)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on November 26, 2015, 02:40:18 PM
Does BA show fairly accurate availability for CX flights ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on November 26, 2015, 02:44:46 PM
Does BA show fairly accurate availability for CX flights ?

Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 01, 2015, 06:22:43 PM
Can AA book a QF flight that's codeshared and operated by EK? (AMM-DXB)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 01, 2015, 08:35:04 PM
Can AA book a QF flight that's codeshared and operated by EK? (AMM-DXB)

No. QF can though.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 02, 2015, 12:38:53 PM
No. QF can though.
Thanx, but I'm trying to string it through AA on one award
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 07, 2015, 10:50:55 AM
Does BA show JAL F availability ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 07, 2015, 10:52:34 AM
Does BA show JAL F availability ?
Yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 10:53:57 AM
Does BA show JAL F availability ?

Yes.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on December 07, 2015, 01:06:25 PM
How come at times, when I search BA, the first class option won't even show up, and other times it will show up albeit with zero availability ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on December 07, 2015, 01:07:47 PM
How come at times, when I search BA, the first class option won't even show up, and other times it will show up albeit with zero availability ?

Got to make sure when searching to select "First" as your class. Won't show up if you select Economy for example.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 01:08:28 PM
How come at times, when I search BA, the first class option won't even show up, and other times it will show up albeit with zero availability ?

If it's a 4 cabin plane, F won't show up unless you select "First" on the search page
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on December 07, 2015, 05:50:46 PM
trying to burn 200k AA miles to get out of tlv to Asia or europe without going through amman. any suggestions?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on December 07, 2015, 06:08:14 PM
trying to burn 200k AA miles to get out of tlv to Asia or europe without going through amman. any suggestions?

What's the issue with flying through Amman?

But to answer your question. There's no way to use AA miles ex-TLV to go to Asia on 1 award without flying TLV-AMM.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on December 08, 2015, 09:51:53 AM
my wife is too nervous to fly through amman.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on December 08, 2015, 10:18:31 AM
my wife is too nervous to fly through amman.

Why?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on December 08, 2015, 10:28:16 AM
Why?

We have a thread for that.  :P
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on December 24, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Is there any way to go from EWR-YYZ with AA miles? Trying to connect it to a HKG-EWR trip.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on December 24, 2015, 05:53:09 PM
Is there any way to go from EWR-YYZ with AA miles? Trying to connect it to a HKG-EWR trip.

No
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 27, 2015, 07:09:25 AM
What is this?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on December 28, 2015, 01:06:30 AM
I've seen that too on the BA site.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on December 28, 2015, 01:59:56 AM
I've seen that too on the BA site.

That screenshot is the BA site.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 28, 2015, 02:42:56 AM
Is it a glitch or a fifth freedom type of thing?
I do see that its their only flight on that route which is operated on the A330 as opposed to the 777.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on December 28, 2015, 08:56:13 AM
Is it a glitch or a fifth freedom type of thing?
I do see that its their only flight on that route which is operated on the A330 as opposed to the 777.
Seems like a glitch.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on January 04, 2016, 09:40:39 AM
Trying to find MLE-DOH but nothing showing on BA. Any other place to check for that space?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on January 04, 2016, 09:44:25 AM
Trying to find MLE-DOH but nothing showing on BA. Any other place to check for that space?

No. Only QR flies that route > BA.com
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on January 04, 2016, 09:47:07 AM
No. Only QR flies that route > BA.com
I don't see any space in anything on that route now.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on January 10, 2016, 11:31:55 PM
TAM intra Brazil with avios,
Can I research/book on line, or do I need to call?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on January 11, 2016, 08:08:35 AM
TAM intra Brazil with avios,
Can I research/book on line, or do I need to call?

Search BA.com and then call AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 11, 2016, 03:48:34 PM
I'm on AA looking for flights from TLV-BKK and select a date on the award calendar but I keep getting this message "The flight you selected is no longer available. Please modify your request.". I called AA and they don't see it. Is there anything I can do? 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 11, 2016, 05:22:55 PM
I'm on AA looking for flights from TLV-BKK and select a date on the award calendar but I keep getting this message "The flight you selected is no longer available. Please modify your request.". I called AA and they don't see it. Is there anything I can do?

It's called phAAntom availability, nothing to do about it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 11, 2016, 05:24:16 PM
Its been there for a few days. Other option is a full day stop in AMM. My wife won't hear of it...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 11, 2016, 05:30:30 PM
Its been there for a few days. Other option is a full day stop in AMM. My wife won't hear of it...

PhAAntom availability can stay there forever.

How about TLV-AMM-DOH-BKK on QR F a380?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 11, 2016, 05:31:24 PM
60k?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 11, 2016, 05:34:00 PM
60k?

J = 30k
F = 45k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 11, 2016, 05:34:55 PM
May i ask you how I find that routing? Its not showing up on AA or BA.
Also once I'm routing through there wouldn't it be worth trying EY?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 11, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
How often do RJ seats open up to be booked with AA miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 11, 2016, 05:54:04 PM
May i ask you how I find that routing? Its not showing up on AA or BA.
For TLV-AMM-DOH on RJ, search AA.com or BA.com
For AMM-DOH-BKK on QR search BA.com

Search each leg separately and then call AA to book it together

Quote
Also once I'm routing through there wouldn't it be worth trying EY?

No
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 11, 2016, 06:02:07 PM
Seems like TLV-AMM is the issue. Nothing open at all.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 11, 2016, 06:17:15 PM
Seems like TLV-AMM is the issue. Nothing open at all.

Call AA and see if they can see any space that's not showing online.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 12, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
How many online reservations can I possibly have at a time?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on January 12, 2016, 04:38:44 PM
Looking at a JFK-CDG flight that is 20k AA + $5.60 for 2/11. Looks like band 5 on gcmap so it would be 20k BA as well so I would like to book with the one that gives me more flexibility. Really I wanted a biz class flight but nothing is open so if something opens up, I want to be able to cancel the one world flight and book let's say Air France or United biz class. Hope this makes sense. So the question is which points to use/what flexibility do I get with each?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 12, 2016, 04:39:48 PM
Looking at a JFK-CDG flight that is 20k AA + $5.60 for 2/11. Looks like band 5 on gcmap so it would be 20k BA as well so I would like to book with the one that gives me more flexibility. Really I wanted a biz class flight but nothing is open so if something opens up, I want to be able to cancel the one world flight and book let's say Air France or United biz class. Hope this makes sense. So the question is which points to use/what flexibility do I get with each?

Booking with BA will cost you YQ.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on January 12, 2016, 04:41:28 PM
Booking with BA will cost you YQ.
So I would only be out the $11.20 if I cancel?
ETA - oh you are saying I get YQ on top of the $11.20 if go with BA. Got it. OK I guess I'll stick with AA. What is AA cancellation policy?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 12, 2016, 04:42:15 PM
AFAIK, it's not possible to set alerts for JL space. Anyone know differently?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 12, 2016, 04:52:55 PM
So I would only be out the $11.20 if I cancel?
ETA - oh you are saying I get YQ on top of the $11.20 if go with BA. Got it. OK I guess I'll stick with AA. What is AA cancellation policy?

Cancel without redeposit = free
Redeposit = $150
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on January 12, 2016, 05:03:36 PM
Cancel without redeposit = free
Redeposit = $150
Thanks, last q. Can I cancel for free and redeposit with no fee if cancel within 24 hours of booking?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 12, 2016, 05:14:39 PM
No.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on January 12, 2016, 05:32:33 PM
No.
I was about to learn this lesson the hard way, but the agent was able to cancel b/c it wasn't ticketed yet, so the points never left my account. Phew that was a close one.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 12, 2016, 05:49:04 PM
Am I crazy to cancel TLV-AMM-BKK and switch it for TLV-AMM-DOH-BKK cause the first option they only have one seat vs second option I can get two seats?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 12, 2016, 05:53:42 PM
Am I crazy to cancel TLV-AMM-BKK and switch it for TLV-AMM-DOH-BKK cause the first option they only have one seat vs second option I can get two seats?

No, just the opposite, you're crazy if you don't switch. QR a380 > RJ 787 and especially if you can fly QR F a380.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 12, 2016, 06:03:03 PM
I'm switching it now. Thanks. Do I get lounge access in DOH? Also (I'm sure its been asked...) does it matter that I have an Israeli visa or that passport was issued in Israel?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 12, 2016, 06:14:23 PM
I'm switching it now. Thanks. Do I get lounge access in DOH? Also (I'm sure its been asked...) does it matter that I have an Israeli visa or that passport was issued in Israel?

Yes. No. No.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 12, 2016, 06:16:21 PM
Ok. Could not get them to waive the booking fee of $40 per person.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 12, 2016, 06:18:46 PM
Ok. Could not get them to waive the booking fee of $40 per person.

Should have been waived.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 12, 2016, 06:21:52 PM
Ok. Could not get them to waive the booking fee of $40 per person.
Should have been waived.

Just remind the rep about the (not so) new rule about booking partners that can't be booked online.
If you were already charged, call back and have them refund it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 12, 2016, 06:23:17 PM
Hung up already. QR can be booked online.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 12, 2016, 06:23:43 PM
QR can be booked online.

Incorrect
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 12, 2016, 06:25:42 PM
Oh. I will call back tomorrow to book and request they deduct it from the ticket. Thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on January 12, 2016, 07:38:35 PM
AFAIK, it's not possible to set alerts for JL space. Anyone know differently?
WATT.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 12, 2016, 07:57:56 PM
WATT.

Right, thanks.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 28, 2016, 04:44:16 AM
Does IB have expanded availability for it's own members?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on January 28, 2016, 11:08:49 AM
Does IB have expanded availability for it's own members?

It isn't known to
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on January 28, 2016, 12:53:15 PM
Though there are some flights they have that aren't bookable to partners (vueling)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on January 29, 2016, 12:23:08 PM
Does IB have expanded availability for it's own members?
Yes. Very much so.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 30, 2016, 12:15:30 PM
Yes. Very much so.

Thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 31, 2016, 02:09:08 AM
How far out does JAL load their flights into the GDS?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SLMYRCB on February 01, 2016, 05:20:55 PM
It's a real pain searching for JAL F availability. Is there an easier way than BA?
All I need is F availability on any day from NRT to North America (preferably LAX or JFK).
X2, but not nec together.
I know its been posted but there is a TON of AA availability, many days with F6.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: LeahB on February 04, 2016, 09:40:32 AM
I am flying on TAM and BA soon, will get a bunch of points. Can I transfer those points to AA so I con book an ELAL flight?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 04, 2016, 10:25:22 AM
I am flying on TAM and BA soon, will get a bunch of points. Can I transfer those points to AA so I con book an ELAL flight?
You can credit your points to AA but AA can no longer book El Al flights.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 04, 2016, 11:08:45 AM
How far out does JAL load their flights into the GDS?

Bump
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: LeahB on February 04, 2016, 11:11:56 AM
You can credit your points to AA but AA can no longer book El Al flights.

So is there any way I can use those points to book a flight on ELAL or SWISS?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 04, 2016, 11:14:50 AM
So is there any way I can use those points to book a flight on ELAL or SWISS?

No
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: LeahB on February 04, 2016, 11:15:44 AM
Any suggestions what to do with those points?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 04, 2016, 11:16:40 AM
Any suggestions what to do with those points?

Credit to AA, use AA for EY, CX, JL, QF.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on February 04, 2016, 07:20:18 PM
Any suggestions what to do with those points?

You can credit your flights to Qantas and use the Qantas points to book Elal flights theoretically, although you'd probably get bad value
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Tsg711 on February 09, 2016, 08:30:08 PM
Need to fly to Perth for a wedding. Anyone know which partner airline would charge me lowest points flying on Etihad or Qatar one stop to Perth from NYC? Will I have trouble flying with stamped passport from Israel?  Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on February 09, 2016, 09:30:38 PM
Need to fly to Perth for a wedding. Anyone know which partner airline would charge me lowest points flying on Etihad or Qatar one stop to Perth from NYC? Will I have trouble flying with stamped passport from Israel?  Thanks!
No airline will let you fly NYC to PER via EY or QR on a single zone based ticket. You'd have to pay for NYC to middle east, then middle east to PER.
You'll have no issues with the Israeli stamps
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 10, 2016, 01:47:12 AM
Need to fly to Perth for a wedding. Anyone know which partner airline would charge me lowest points flying on Etihad or Qatar one stop to Perth from NYC? Will I have trouble flying with stamped passport from Israel?  Thanks!

Y? J? F?
OW? RT?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on February 10, 2016, 01:12:29 PM
Y? J? F?
OW? RT?
I think it's time you edit the wiki that all requests must include that info
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 10, 2016, 01:15:48 PM
I think it's time you edit the wiki that all requests must include that info

Go right ahead.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on February 13, 2016, 08:08:17 PM
any free way to search LAN/TAM availability by calendar? thus far i've been using BA which is a PITA because you need to check each day separately 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ADG on February 19, 2016, 01:49:56 PM
How do i book CX with AA miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on February 19, 2016, 01:54:27 PM
How do i book CX with AA miles?

You search BA > call AA > book CX.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ADG on February 19, 2016, 01:55:29 PM
You search BA > call AA > book CX.

Thanks
How do i know the price of AA on BA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on February 19, 2016, 02:01:05 PM
Thanks
How do i know the price of AA on BA?

It isn't AA on BA. You are just searching BA for the space. Use the AA partner award chart to obtain prices.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Aron27 on March 14, 2016, 10:18:11 AM
Which is the best points to book a flight from San to Lhr on BA?? I checked BA, AA and Iberia and the taxes are all very expensive..
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on March 14, 2016, 10:59:55 AM
Which is the best points to book a flight from San to Lhr on BA?? I checked BA, AA and Iberia and the taxes are all very expensive..
LAN is the only one that doesn't charge YQ on BA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: aryeh1 on April 04, 2016, 02:57:48 PM
Besides BA, Alaska does American airlines have any other partners, that amex points transfer into that I could use miles to book AA domestic Flights?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 04, 2016, 03:11:21 PM
Besides BA, Alaska does American airlines have any other partners that I could use miles to book AA domestic Flights?

CX, JL and oW partners.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: aryeh1 on April 04, 2016, 03:20:58 PM
CX, JL and oW partners.
Thanks forgot to add that amex points transfer into
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yuguy on April 22, 2016, 11:18:51 AM
Going down a class of service, lets say from F to J: would AA just refund the miles, or its an entirely new ticket and have to pay to chnge the award?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on April 22, 2016, 12:56:24 PM
Going down a class of service, lets say from F to J: would AA just refund the miles, or its an entirely new ticket and have to pay to chnge the award?
The latter
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on April 28, 2016, 12:04:24 PM
When booking a r/t NYC-TLV flight on Airberlin, is it possible to get a free domestic trailing flight, or will that incur extra mileage?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on April 28, 2016, 12:09:25 PM
When booking a r/t NYC-TLV flight on Airberlin, is it possible to get a free domestic trailing flight, or will that incur extra mileage?
Booking with BA? No, its distance based.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on April 28, 2016, 04:52:45 PM
Booking with BA? No, its distance based.

Well, I'm booking using Avios through BA, but it's not really part of the Avios scheme. It's more like booking on AA using Avios.

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on April 30, 2016, 03:36:08 PM
Well, I'm booking using Avios through BA, but it's not really part of the Avios scheme. It's more like booking on AA using Avios.
No idea what your talking about.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on April 30, 2016, 11:38:41 PM
No idea what your talking about.

My understanding is that Avios is distance based only on airlines for which use Avios as their principal award system (BA and IB), but not for other airlines that accept Avios but have their own award system (AA and AB). For example, BA and AB charge a different amount of Avios for a r/t JFK-TLV flight, even though it's the same mileage, no? And if that is the case, I'm wondering if it's possible to add a trailing flight on AB without incurring any extra charge.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: GAM Z. on April 30, 2016, 11:55:42 PM
My understanding is that Avios is distance based only on airlines for which use Avios as their principal award system (BA and IB), but not for other airlines that accept Avios but have their own award system (AA and AB). For example, BA and AB charge a different amount of Avios for a r/t JFK-TLV flight, even though it's the same mileage, no? And if that is the case, I'm wondering if it's possible to add a trailing flight on AB without incurring any extra charge.
I think for everything it's distance based.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Emkay on May 01, 2016, 02:31:10 AM
My understanding is that Avios is distance based only on airlines for which use Avios as their principal award system (BA and IB), but not for other airlines that accept Avios but have their own award system (AA and AB). For example, BA and AB charge a different amount of Avios for a r/t JFK-TLV flight, even though it's the same mileage, no? And if that is the case, I'm wondering if it's possible to add a trailing flight on AB without incurring any extra charge.
I'm not sure where you got that understanding but it's incorrect.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bznt on May 01, 2016, 08:38:52 AM
When booking a r/t NYC-TLV flight on Airberlin, is it possible to get a free domestic trailing flight, or will that incur extra mileage?
Isn't united the only airline that has free domestic trailing flight ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on May 01, 2016, 09:28:12 AM
Isn't united the only airline that has free domestic trailing flight ?

Idk, that's the question.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on May 01, 2016, 10:41:50 AM
Isn't united the only airline that has free domestic trailing flight ?
and Alaska for domestic airlines
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on May 01, 2016, 11:15:14 AM
Can I get a companion ticket on AB for 50% when booking award flights using Avios?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on May 01, 2016, 11:22:29 AM
Can I get a companion ticket on AB for 50% when booking award flights using Avios?
no
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: bznt on May 01, 2016, 11:59:13 AM
and Alaska for domestic airlines
Can you please explain ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on May 01, 2016, 03:05:59 PM
Can you please explain ?
Alaska allows a free stopover even on a one way for their own metal.
E.g if you're flying NYC-SEA. you can stay in SEA for awhile and then go to LAX
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on May 01, 2016, 03:36:01 PM
Alaska allows a free stopover even on a one way for their own metal.
E.g if you're flying NYC-SEA. you can stay in SEA for awhile and then go to LAX

You mean NYC-LAX with stopover in SEA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on May 01, 2016, 05:49:41 PM
You mean NYC-LAX with stopover in SEA?
yes, but in this case I was focusing on the trailing stopover.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on May 03, 2016, 10:30:01 AM
How do I search for availability on AA to redeem Etihad miles? Does there need to be Super Saver?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on May 03, 2016, 10:43:19 AM
How do I search for availability on AA to redeem Etihad miles? Does there need to be Super Saver?
Saver is good enough.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on May 03, 2016, 10:58:03 AM
Saver is good enough.

Thank you. Then I need to call Etihad to book, or can it be done online?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on May 03, 2016, 10:59:34 AM
Thank you. Then I need to call Etihad to book, or can it be done online?
Need to call.

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/87361
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on May 03, 2016, 11:17:42 AM
I noticed that Etihad's chart for AA doesn't include Israel. No surprise there, but I'm wondering: a) is it even possible to book a ticket to TLV using Etihad points, and b) if it is, would it be considered part of the Middle East or Europe?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on May 03, 2016, 12:15:41 PM
I noticed that Etihad's chart for AA doesn't include Israel. No surprise there, but I'm wondering: a) is it even possible to book a ticket to TLV using Etihad points, and b) if it is, would it be considered part of the Middle East or Europe?
well AA doesn't fly to Israel, so...
you can use EY to book SN to TLV
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Agoldsc1 on May 03, 2016, 12:18:36 PM
well AA doesn't fly to Israel, so...
you can use EY to book SN to TLV

I know, and their redemption chart is great, but availability is very rare.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: BCL on May 06, 2016, 03:23:42 PM
Flying from YEG-NYC RT, what is the best use of AA miles? Most AA fights are 2 stopovers. Are there partner airlines with less stops?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 06, 2016, 03:54:25 PM
Nope. Best bet is WR to YYZ and then AA to NYC.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: BCL on May 09, 2016, 02:49:00 PM
Nope. Best bet is WR to YYZ and then AA to NYC.
Thanks. Pardon my ignorance, what is WR?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on May 09, 2016, 04:00:30 PM
CX Agent telling me they can't see my desired AA flights available.

BA sees the flights, QF sees the flights, and AA.com sees the flights, as well as expert flyer.

I waited so long on hold for this, not willing to give up.

How can I get them to see this availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on May 09, 2016, 08:55:27 PM
CX Agent telling me they can't see my desired AA flights available.

BA sees the flights, QF sees the flights, and AA.com sees the flights, as well as expert flyer.

I waited so long on hold for this, not willing to give up.

How can I get them to see this availability?
HUCA or try feeding them the flight numbers and tell them to search each one separately
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on May 09, 2016, 09:53:48 PM
HUCA or try feeding them the flight numbers and tell them to search each one separately

Both of those didn't work, I even tried the Cantonese line in HK.

Gotta be an IT glitch, they're seeing only partial availability. They saw other flights same day, just not the ones I needed.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on May 11, 2016, 01:57:09 PM
Why would CX block some American award space and not all?

What they could see based on what BA and QF see had no pattern other than they saw less space.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stmark on May 12, 2016, 03:34:46 PM
Wondering if the price is a good deal to redeem:
2 adults
flight in biz class on miles for 100k + taxes
or
cash for $1930

(AA miles)

TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on May 12, 2016, 03:36:29 PM
Wondering if the price is a good deal to redeem:
2 adults
flight in biz class on miles for 100k + taxes
or
cash for $1930

(AA miles)

TIA
How much are taxes?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stmark on May 13, 2016, 09:24:55 AM
How much are taxes?
$22.40
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on May 13, 2016, 10:39:48 AM
$22.40
So you'd essentially be getting a value of 1.9-2.3+ cpp on the redemption (depending on how many miles are earned from the cash ticket).

Now that value is pretty decent compared to the minimum redemption value* you should be getting for personal use, there are certainly much better values you can get (3.5-5.5++ cpp in J or 5-15+ cpp in F).

*TPG currently values AA points at 1.5 cpp. (http://thepointsguy.com/2016/05/may-2016-monthly-valuations/)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: stmark on May 13, 2016, 11:09:41 AM
So you'd essentially be getting a value of 1.9-2.3+ cpp on the redemption (depending on how many miles are earned from the cash ticket).

Now that value is pretty decent compared to the minimum redemption value* you should be getting for personal use, there are certainly much better values you can get (3.5-5.5++ cpp in J or 5-15+ cpp in F).

*TPG currently values AA points at 1.5 cpp. (http://thepointsguy.com/2016/05/may-2016-monthly-valuations/)

Thanks so much!!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jackofall on May 23, 2016, 06:19:20 PM
I would like to book MAN-PHL OW on AA metal i don't have AA points. I do have UR and MR, which program should I transfer/book with?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on May 23, 2016, 07:23:17 PM
I would like to book MAN-PHL OW on AA metal i don't have AA points. I do have UR and MR, which program should I transfer/book with?
Probably not a very good redemption unless you're flying J class.
only option I can think of is Mr to Cathay.
BA would incur high YQ
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jackofall on May 23, 2016, 08:10:07 PM
Probably not a very good redemption unless you're flying J class.
only option I can think of is Mr to Cathay.
BA would incur high YQ
TY
Any better suggestions for flying OW direct is greatly appreciated.
TIA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on May 23, 2016, 11:30:24 PM
TY
Any better suggestions for flying OW direct is greatly appreciated.
TIA

He meant transfer to CX and book AA metal.

Their rates are actually pretty good on some routes. And low YQ. However, see above where I encountered an issue where CX doesn't see the full OW availability

If they see your flight you're in luck though.

JFK-LHR was 45K roundtrip in Y as opposed to 60K with AA (peak)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: myi on June 16, 2016, 06:04:45 PM
Any specific airline best to use when flying from nyc-las?(meaning the least miles used?)which award program would be best choice to use? Thanks!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on July 06, 2016, 11:34:01 AM
Any specific airline best to use when flying from nyc-las?(meaning the least miles used?)which award program would be best choice to use? Thanks!

All the legacies would be at 12.5K OW for coach.

JetBlue, Southwest and Virgin would be variable based on ticket prices.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: tanipollak on July 13, 2016, 11:48:27 PM
Looking for the cheapest 1 way ticket in points for flight from TLV to NYC on Saturday night 8/20 or early sunday morning 8/21(if i gets into NYC before 4PM). Least amount of points?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on July 16, 2016, 04:21:06 PM
Looking for the cheapest 1 way ticket in points for flight from TLV to NYC on Saturday night 8/20 or early sunday morning 8/21(if i gets into NYC before 4PM). Least amount of points?
Wrong thread. post in Award ticket masterthread
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on October 07, 2016, 11:47:25 AM
any way to avoid close in fee on AA.Com ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on October 09, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
any way to avoid close in fee on AA.Com ?
No publicly known method.
Don't PM me asking for an allegedly existing secret method
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on December 14, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
Looking at a connecting flight from YYZ-PHL-MIA on 1/09. Only available when choosing one seat. Is it likely a second seat will open as soon as I book current one?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on December 15, 2016, 09:33:56 AM
Looking at a connecting flight from YYZ-PHL-MIA on 1/09. Only available when choosing one seat. Is it likely a second seat will open as soon as I book current one?
'likely' idk, but AA usually releases more award seats last minute
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on December 15, 2016, 02:21:23 PM
I don't wanna pay a close-in fee...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on December 15, 2016, 05:24:07 PM
I don't wanna pay a close-in fee...
Ever heard of BA or AS?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on December 15, 2016, 09:18:50 PM
What's AS?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmgfarb on December 15, 2016, 09:35:55 PM
What's AS?
Alaskan Airlines
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hiima on December 20, 2016, 01:03:07 PM
Alaskan Airlines

Alaska Airlines
...sorry
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on January 03, 2017, 07:25:54 PM
Anyone ever heard of this:
If a passenger is ticketed on CX and then the passenger put another CX award ticket on hold for the next day since he may need to change the flight however he will be officially flying during the time of the ticket on hold both tickets may cancel out since it's a duplicate? DROPR?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on January 03, 2017, 08:24:29 PM
Any pattern behind QR releasing space?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: zemz2005 on January 10, 2017, 12:52:41 PM
i tried to book trave on BA from Phily to Fort Lauderdale. The sight is showing 22,500 miles each way. I though this was 7,500 miles for that segment?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on January 10, 2017, 12:56:46 PM
i tried to book trave on BA from Phily to Fort Lauderdale. The sight is showing 22,500 miles each way. I though this was 7,500 miles for that segment?
Sounds like you're seeing Business pricing.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: zemz2005 on January 10, 2017, 01:02:23 PM
Your price quote

You require an additional 22500 Avios to make this booking with Avios & money. You can purchase more Avios at a cost of . Avios can be purchased in multiples of 1,000.
You may purchase up to or be given 35,000 Avios in one calendar year (Jan-Dec).
Purchase Avios
Start a new search
PriceYour Avios: 0
Avios   22500
Inclusive total   $ 16.80
Details of your baggage allowance and any applicable charges are lower down this page
Your flights

Outbound - Tuesday 10 January 2017
15:30 10 Jan   19:01 10 Jan   John F Kennedy (NY) (New York)   Miami International (FL)   AA0065   American Airlines   Economy
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: David Smith on January 10, 2017, 01:04:19 PM
Your price quote

You require an additional 22500 Avios to make this booking with Avios & money. You can purchase more Avios at a cost of . Avios can be purchased in multiples of 1,000.
You may purchase up to or be given 35,000 Avios in one calendar year (Jan-Dec).
Purchase Avios
Start a new search
PriceYour Avios: 0
Avios22500
Inclusive total$ 16.80
Details of your baggage allowance and any applicable charges are lower down this page
Your flights

Outbound - Tuesday 10 January 2017
15:30 10 Jan19:01 10 JanJohn F Kennedy (NY) (New York)Miami International (FL)AA0065American AirlinesEconomy
Your quote is for 3 pax.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: zemz2005 on January 10, 2017, 01:17:01 PM
whoops :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: moisheyb on January 25, 2017, 08:04:19 AM
whats the best way to see availability on oneworld for a flight from bkk back to nyc (usa)?
looking to book for 2 on march 29 or so. preferred way to book is with AS or AA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on February 08, 2017, 12:16:45 PM
now that wandr.me doesn't do CX alerts is there any other way to get CX alerts?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jomaster28 on June 08, 2017, 04:01:42 PM
I am looking for JFK - HKG for Dec/Jan. I am looking for First or Business using Alaskan Miles on a Cathy flight.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to search for availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on June 08, 2017, 04:21:45 PM
I am looking for JFK - HKG for Dec/Jan. I am looking for First or Business using Alaskan Miles on a Cathy flight.

Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to search for availability?
ba.com
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jomaster28 on June 08, 2017, 04:39:13 PM
ba.com

and if it available there than i can call up Alaskan and book with them? Any other Alternatives?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on June 08, 2017, 04:41:12 PM
and if it available there than i can call up Alaskan and book with them?
yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jomaster28 on June 08, 2017, 04:50:27 PM
yes

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: BCL on June 11, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
What is the best number to call to book international AAdvantage award?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: JunkYardUnz on June 12, 2017, 01:05:01 PM
AA just released a boat load of saver awards. What's the logic, when do they release them.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: moisheyb on June 12, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
AA just released a boat load of saver awards. What's the logic, when do they release them.

What routes?
Title: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: JunkYardUnz on June 12, 2017, 01:18:25 PM
Phx-Ewr, Las-Phl. Nothing to get excited over, just wanted to know the logic. Was looking for this route for awhile now and just today it all went light green. Nothing worked out for me, my days were still not available.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: 12HRS on June 12, 2017, 01:21:39 PM
Thanks to your post I just grabbed lax-jfk for 12.5 BA = $5.60 Cost of flight was $257
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: cholent on July 06, 2017, 07:30:44 PM
How would I find out the fuel surcharges for booking ba using jal? Any way other than calling?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: a mirrer on July 07, 2017, 04:22:37 AM
How would I find out the fuel surcharges for booking ba using jal? Any way other than calling?
ITA Matrix
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: seeyon3 on July 18, 2017, 03:47:15 AM
i was looking into booking avios from jfk to yvr and noticed with ba avios it 75k round trip while in ib avios its 64k round trip in buisness. is there a catch im not seeing?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: a mirrer on July 18, 2017, 06:33:58 AM
i was looking into booking avios from jfk to yvr and noticed with ba avios it 75k round trip while in ib avios its 64k round trip in buisness. is there a catch im not seeing?
see here (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/1-week-left-until-british-airways-avios-devaluation/) for the pros and cons booking with Iberia versus BA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: seeyon3 on July 18, 2017, 12:05:23 PM
see here (https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/1-week-left-until-british-airways-avios-devaluation/) for the pros and cons booking with Iberia versus BA
thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmgfarb on July 18, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
i was looking into booking avios from jfk to yvr and noticed with ba avios it 75k round trip while in ib avios its 64k round trip in buisness. is there a catch im not seeing?
Nope you should be fine, YQ is only around $10 IINM.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: David Smith on July 18, 2017, 02:25:59 PM
i was looking into booking avios from jfk to yvr and noticed with ba avios it 75k round trip while in ib avios its 64k round trip in buisness. is there a catch im not seeing?
Only 23k MR more for F, if it's available.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: tov hashem on August 01, 2017, 11:16:40 PM
I would like to fly CX from jfk-yvr 8/14 and back 8/17  OW F OW J? Is BA site best to search for it?   Is expert flyer accurate with flight alerts?      Is there a specific timing when to search like midnight or..?    So far both flights have 4 F seats available based on google flights.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmgfarb on August 01, 2017, 11:22:11 PM
I would like to fly CX from jfk-yvr 8/14 and back 8/17  OW F OW J? Is BA site best to search for it?   Is expert flyer accurate with flight alerts?      Is there a specific timing when to search like midnight or..?    So far both flights have 4 F seats available based on google flights.
What do you plan on booking with?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: tov hashem on August 01, 2017, 11:22:56 PM
What do you plan on booking with?
avios
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmgfarb on August 01, 2017, 11:23:46 PM
avios
BA's website will be fine.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: tov hashem on August 01, 2017, 11:24:35 PM
BA's website will be fine.
thanks what about other q?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on August 02, 2017, 07:36:47 AM
Expert flyer doesn't set alerts for cx. And google flights doesn't show award seats they show revenue seats
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: tov hashem on August 02, 2017, 07:43:02 AM
Expert flyer doesn't set alerts for cx. And google flights doesn't show award seats they show revenue seats
i know that google flights only shows revenue seats but It gives me a picture of my chances of will it open to award. Am I  right or wrong??
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: rollingstone on August 02, 2017, 08:50:07 AM
i know that google flights only shows revenue seats but It gives me a picture of my chances of will it open to award. Am I  right or wrong??
Wrong
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: tov hashem on August 02, 2017, 04:11:05 PM
Wrong
so how do I know how much  F seats are still available?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on August 02, 2017, 04:26:39 PM
so how do I know how much  F seats are still available?
search on BA or QF
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: tov hashem on August 02, 2017, 09:47:26 PM
i see that ba dont have access to cx 6 days before flight correct? do they have access over the phone for it?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ADG on August 03, 2017, 04:35:23 PM
What's the best way to check prices and availability on Singapore  (miles)

Is there a special number to get though quicker if I need to call? Do I need an account to check availability?

Is it a hopeless dream to find space on swiss metal?

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmgfarb on August 03, 2017, 05:50:53 PM
What's the best way to check prices and availability on Singapore  (miles)

Is there a special number to get though quicker if I need to call? Do I need an account to check availability?

Is it a hopeless dream to find space on swiss metal?
Wrong thread, SQ and LX are Stat Alliance, not One World.
To answer you last question, it would depend totally on route and class.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on August 08, 2017, 06:04:29 PM
Cross-posting from AA Award thread maybe someone new gets alerted by this post.

IB shows seats on its own metal which are available with Avios. Is it guaranteed that AA will be able to find those seats? Also, BA.com does not show those seats either but can book them with exorbitant YQ over the phome. They are not phantom per IB call center.

ba.com also seems to be glitchy today. Anyone else have that issue. no availability on routes that always have something.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: helpyouamdme on September 01, 2017, 10:43:34 AM
dos BA allowes free stop over
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on September 01, 2017, 11:13:14 AM
dos BA allowes free stop over
ba charges by segment regardless so technically they do offer free stop overs
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on September 06, 2017, 10:51:50 AM
dos BA allowes free stop over
Only in London on the way to a domestic UK city when connecting from a long haul flight
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: helpyouamdme on September 17, 2017, 06:53:50 PM
dos the companion from BA work also on Iberia?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ludmila on September 17, 2017, 07:24:18 PM
dos the companion from BA work also on Iberia?
No. Only on BA metal departing from USA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: slickdeal1 on September 27, 2017, 06:46:39 PM
How do I book EY F class Apartment from JFK-AUH; whenever I check on EY website, it shows no availability under guest seat. I tried calling AA, they also can't find availability.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mmgfarb on September 27, 2017, 07:03:01 PM
How do I book EY F class Apartment from JFK-AUH; whenever I check on EY website, it shows no availability under guest seat. I tried calling AA, they also can't find availability.
If EY isn't showing availability then you're out of luck. Even if they do, AA hasn't been able to book these for a little while now.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: slickdeal1 on October 01, 2017, 03:58:31 PM
Booking Etihad Premium cabins with miles is no longer possible unless you’re within 30 days of departure date.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28879304-post3230.html
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on November 06, 2017, 08:32:30 PM
Cross-Post alert

For the second time in a few months for me AA does not see same availability as BA on IB flights. Is there some call center I should be calling or is that just a fact of life that IB flights even though available to be booked with BA cannot always be booked with AA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Ehad on November 07, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
anybody remembers which airline using miles was best on premium from NYC to the east cost? i vaguely remember it was a code share from JFK that Dan used to recommend with a lie flight and a real first class seat if iam not mistaken. thanks for your help
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on November 07, 2017, 12:37:06 PM
anybody remembers which airline using miles was best on premium from NYC to the east cost? i vaguely remember it was a code share from JFK that Dan used to recommend with a lie flight and a real first class seat if iam not mistaken. thanks for your help
What are you talking about?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: a mirrer on November 07, 2017, 01:28:09 PM
What are you talking about?
most probably the tam flight to Toronto that stopped a year ago
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: high end hobo on November 07, 2017, 01:38:07 PM
anybody remembers which airline using miles was best on premium from NYC to the east cost? i vaguely remember it was a code share from JFK that Dan used to recommend with a lie flight and a real first class seat if iam not mistaken. thanks for your help
I think you meant NYC to the west coast.

LH on UA metal is 17.5K but availability is almost impossible
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: dov613 on December 06, 2017, 09:08:09 AM
Does anyone know if it is possible to book AAnytime seats (not SAAver) via BA avios, and if so, how?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on December 06, 2017, 09:26:10 AM
Does anyone know if it is possible to book AAnytime seats (not SAAver) via BA avios, and if so, how?
not possible
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shimino1 on January 04, 2018, 08:06:45 PM
What's a good destination from Tel Aviv that would have married award availability on CX through HKG? Thanks
Accepting PM as well....
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ludmila on January 06, 2018, 02:15:38 AM
not possible
+1, would have been great.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ethana on January 24, 2018, 04:51:23 PM
anyone know how many miles it is to upgrade from coach to business on Qatar?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shimino1 on January 25, 2018, 03:42:18 AM
anyone know how many miles it is to upgrade from coach to business on Qatar?
I'm not sure but my good friend Google is THE MAN!!! when it comes to these things.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lkwdlady on January 30, 2018, 06:23:10 PM
Does anyone know how mch YQ is when booking RT on BA JFK-LHR in J through CX?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on January 31, 2018, 12:12:18 PM
Does anyone know how mch YQ is when booking RT on BA JFK-LHR in J through CX?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1592.0

See Wiki. CX charges on all.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lkwdlady on January 31, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1592.0

See Wiki. CX charges on all.

I know :( my question is how much it will be? I tried looking online but they won't show me because I don't have enough miles in my account but I want to make sure it makes senses before I transfer miles.

If someone has enough miles and wouldn't mind checking for me I would really appreciate it!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: moisheyb on February 01, 2018, 05:16:05 AM
Does qantas show phantom cx availability?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: brumms56 on March 16, 2018, 01:05:50 PM
Anyone know how to get agents to find an Etihad flight using AA miles?

Etihad website shows guest availability, but agents don't see it. Preferably for the JFK-->AUH route.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: shimino1 on April 10, 2018, 07:04:54 PM
Does qantas show phantom cx availability?
Iv'e seen many times space on Qantas that doesn't show on BA, AS or AA.
It may be Phantom or it may match the Asia miles availability.
 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: moisheyb on April 11, 2018, 03:07:55 AM
Iv'e seen many times space on Qantas that doesn't show on BA, AS or AA.
It may be Phantom or it may match the Asia miles availability.
Ya i never went through and booked, but I wonder if they have more seats available
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: TAVI on April 28, 2018, 09:15:29 PM
i see award availability on qantas.com (for flights operated by Latam), but called Asia Miles and they can't see it, called AA and they can't see it, BA.com doesnt show it, and alaskaair.com doesnt show it.

Can i assume its Phantom?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: djrat on May 27, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
newbie here - what's the best way to use American Airlines miles? I have about 160k and booking intl flights seem to be very expensive. Is domestic flights the best way to go for this?

Any advice on this would be helpful

thank you
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yelped on May 27, 2018, 06:50:05 PM
Where do you want to go? Everything has its uses..
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on May 27, 2018, 08:27:55 PM
First Question - I want to book JFK - AUH - MLE with AA miles, it will be 1 pax in F, 3 in J and one infant

rep told me F and J cannot be on the same itinerary. so which one of these 2 would make more sense to do in terms of future flexibility with changes/cancellations?

A. one RT booking in F for one pax, and one RT booking in J for 3 pax + infant
B. 4 one way bookings, same as above but to split into one ways


Second Question - does anyone know if the close-in trick for united works for AA as well? i.e book more than 21 ahead than changed date within 21 days without getting charged the $75 fee

Third question - anyone know how much AA will charge for infant flying in EY J ?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on May 27, 2018, 09:41:15 PM
First Question - I want to book JFK - AUH - MLE with AA miles, it will be 1 pax in F, 3 in J and one infant

rep told me F and J cannot be on the same itinerary. so which one of these 2 would make more sense to do in terms of future flexibility with changes/cancellations?

A. one RT booking in F for one pax, and one RT booking in J for 3 pax + infant
B. 4 one way bookings, same as above but to split into one ways


Second Question - does anyone know if the close-in trick for united works for AA as well? i.e book more than 21 ahead than changed date within 21 days without getting charged the $75 fee

Third question - anyone know how much AA will charge for infant flying in EY J ?
2) It does not.

3) 10% of published.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Eru Ilúvatar on May 30, 2018, 11:07:22 AM
For an NYC - TLV award in economy, how much YQ (and other fees) does BA charge? How much if booked using asia miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on May 30, 2018, 01:52:30 PM
For an NYC - TLV award in economy, how much YQ (and other fees) does BA charge? How much if booked using asia miles?
Look on ITA
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: zemz2005 on June 03, 2018, 03:12:08 PM
im trying to book a trip to Israelusing my British points.  I found oneworld  availability on Qantas website through ELAL. Can i book this using British miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on June 03, 2018, 03:13:50 PM
im trying to book a trip to Israelusing my British points.  I found oneworld  availability on Qantas website through ELAL. Can i book this using British miles?
no
Title: FYI
Post by: buenos naches on June 27, 2018, 07:22:00 PM
Probably not important enough for the WIKI, but I found this interesting. 

AA.com award searches may show awards with layovers of up to 23:59, while paid ticket searches only show stops of up to 4 hours.  If you want to see the price of an AA award in $ with a longer-than-4-hour stop, use the multi-city search tool (click on "Plan Travel", then "Flights"
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: efflpetzel on June 29, 2018, 02:03:27 PM
Whats the best way to search LATAM award availability for domestic Brazil flights?

AA, BA & Qantas don't seem to work
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 29, 2018, 06:04:50 PM
Whats the best way to search LATAM award availability for domestic Brazil flights?

AA, BA & Qantas don't seem to work
You sure they don't work? Perhaps there's no availability.

I used BA in the past.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: jose34 on August 08, 2018, 10:53:10 AM
If I needed to fly in a week or so and I was looking to fly Alaska using BA Avios how likely is it the award availability will open up?

Should I just fly a different flight or is still safe to wait a few more days?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: gamblord on August 21, 2018, 09:31:36 PM
If I needed to fly in a week or so and I was looking to fly Alaska using BA Avios how likely is it the award availability will open up?

Should I just fly a different flight or is still safe to wait a few more days?

50/50.  If you find something else acceptable, book it.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: farmbochur on October 03, 2018, 02:04:19 PM
Has AA started blacking out saver availability within 2 weeks?

I've been monitoring PIT-NYC over the last couple weeks. There seems to consistently be plenty of availability for many dates, but it all disappears once I'm within 14 days.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ludmila on October 03, 2018, 05:18:21 PM
Has AA started blacking out saver availability within 2 weeks?

I've been monitoring PIT-NYC over the last couple weeks. There seems to consistently be plenty of availability for many dates, but it all disappears once I'm within 14 days.
I just booked a within 7 days RT last night, though flying out of IND.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on October 04, 2018, 12:23:48 PM
Has AA started blacking out saver availability within 2 weeks?

I've been monitoring PIT-NYC over the last couple weeks. There seems to consistently be plenty of availability for many dates, but it all disappears once I'm within 14 days.
Looks like a married segment restriction on that route.

On 10/10 (random date I searched) they have T class (economy sAAver) on a direct PIT-BOS flight, and they also have T on PIT-LGA-BOS.
Although as you mention, nothing within 14 days in T for just PIT-LGA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: efflpetzel on October 05, 2018, 01:08:25 AM
Looks like a married segment restriction on that route.

On 10/10 (random date I searched) they have T class (economy sAAver) on a direct PIT-BOS flight, and they also have T on PIT-LGA-BOS.
Although as you mention, nothing within 14 days in T for just PIT-LGA.

same thing on PHL - ATH route.

availability on AA758 is spotty at best when searching direct, however when searching BOS - PHL - ATH magically 758 is available every day.

AA T class has more & more married segment issues.

there are simple workarounds however, place connection on hold online & call in to remove first segment.

I've even done that with Etihad, fed them both segments to build the itinerary & then requested them to drop the first segment, successfully ticketed (I don't see why this wouldn't work with BA too) 
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yelped on October 05, 2018, 10:02:36 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 10, 2018, 11:10:32 AM
Incredible that there is not more of an outcry over this AA two-week blocking...
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 10, 2018, 11:11:37 AM
Incredible that there is not more of an outcry over this AA two-week blocking...
It's not everywhere so it's easier to ignore/not notice
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 10, 2018, 11:25:08 AM
It's def on routes I book. Bah.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yelped on October 10, 2018, 11:30:29 AM
Incredible that there is not more of an outcry over this AA two-week blocking...
Post on forums all over. Email the bloggers.

Also, I don't know why @Dan didn't write about AA not rebooking on United and Delta for non elite economy passengers (90% of travelers) in the event of IRROPS.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidrotts63 on October 10, 2018, 11:36:17 AM


It's def on routes I book. Bah.
Booked a friend LAX-JFK 2 days out just this week.
It was the only availability during the following 2 weeks.
Also, I don't know why @Dan didn't write about AA not rebooking on United and Delta for non elite economy passengers (90% of travelers) in the event of IRROPS.

+1
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Lamppost on October 31, 2018, 10:31:58 AM
Just for the record for this forum, I am looking at PHL-DTW for next week and there is loads of availability at saver level. And for the next couple months as well. Same for LGA-DTW. Kinda shocking. Is AA doing teshuva here?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 31, 2018, 01:10:33 PM
Seems so. Also see availability LGA<>MEM in next 2 weeks. BH.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: farmbochur on October 31, 2018, 01:15:13 PM
Same for PIT-NYC
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: m65 on November 06, 2018, 05:57:50 AM
to which airports europe can i fly direct from nyc area using aadvantage miles?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on November 06, 2018, 06:57:44 AM
to which airports europe can i fly direct from nyc area using aadvantage miles?
any oneworld nonstop flight. There are plenty
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: m65 on November 06, 2018, 07:12:44 AM
any oneworld nonstop flight. There are plenty
mad, mxp, lhr, what else?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 07:15:12 AM
CDG may be good option to connect to TLV
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: m65 on November 06, 2018, 12:35:42 PM
CDG may be good option to connect to TLV
what else? i need a list to check all the options
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidrotts63 on November 06, 2018, 12:38:36 PM
what else? i need a list to check all the options
Sorry I don't think anyone here wants to compile a list for you of all AA flights to Europe and all partners
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on November 06, 2018, 02:10:35 PM
what else? i need a list to check all the options
Quick lesson:

http://matrix.itasoftware.com/

Hidden City Ticketing (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45539.0)
Copy the "Europe Airport List (top 150):" from the wiki and paste it into the Destination field (Departing from NYC obviously).

This one is a bit more complicated, so I'll give you what you're looking for:
ITA Software Advanced Routing Codes (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17085.0)
Paste into Extension codes field "alliance oneworld; -codeshare" will give you all One World Member flights and exclude codeshare bookings (since you only need 1 line per flight).

Select only show nonstops from the filters on bottom.

Once the results load, click the "From / To" sort /filter at the top of the results to see the short list.

Sorry I don't think anyone here wants to compile a list for you of all AA flights to Europe and all partners
Not posting the results :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: m65 on November 06, 2018, 04:31:36 PM
Quick lesson:

http://matrix.itasoftware.com/

Hidden City Ticketing (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=45539.0)
Copy the "Europe Airport List (top 150):" from the wiki and paste it into the Destination field (Departing from NYC obviously).

This one is a bit more complicated, so I'll give you what you're looking for:
ITA Software Advanced Routing Codes (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17085.0)
Paste into Extension codes field "alliance oneworld; -codeshare" will give you all One World Member flights and exclude codeshare bookings (since you only need 1 line per flight).

Select only show nonstops from the filters on bottom.

Once the results load, click the "From / To" sort /filter at the top of the results to see the short list.
Not posting the results :)

thank u

Sorry I don't think anyone here wants to compile a list for you of all AA flights to Europe and all partners
lubaby just did
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on November 06, 2018, 04:42:07 PM
thank u
lubaby just did
I didn't give you the list, I showed you how to find it yourself.

We were all new to this once, keep on learning :)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: theyankel on December 01, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
request for assistance:
i have 6 j seats on hold jfk-gru and gig-jfk both using aa. two sepearte res. 57,500x6 twice
problem is now that i dont have enough aa for 6 r/t. what would be my second best choice? i need 3 o/w. is it best to use ba? cx? qf? japan? preference is least yq.
thanks
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: YesThatsMe on December 26, 2018, 10:37:01 AM
Is there any way to expand J availability on AA?

Need MAN-PHL, AA metal, only Y on saver.

2 weeks out.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on December 26, 2018, 01:49:44 PM
Is there any way to expand J availability on AA?

Need MAN-PHL, AA metal, only Y on saver.

2 weeks out.
Maybe with a married segment (HC).
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: YesThatsMe on December 26, 2018, 01:50:29 PM
Maybe with a married segment (HC).

Great idea, whats a good HC, or way to find a good HC??
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: lubaby on December 26, 2018, 01:54:59 PM
Great idea, whats a good HC, or way to find a good HC??
MCO working for 12/31. Can try that for your dates, or maybe MIA/DFW/BOS.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: YesThatsMe on December 26, 2018, 04:19:01 PM
Even w/o MCO it works 12/31.

And routing through LGW.

I don't understand why a HC would open a closed award, does it ever?!
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yelped on December 26, 2018, 05:15:01 PM
Married segments.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: farmbochur on January 22, 2019, 07:16:51 PM


Has AA started blacking out saver availability within 2 weeks?

I've been monitoring PIT-NYC over the last couple weeks. There seems to consistently be plenty of availability for many dates, but it all disappears once I'm within 14 days.



Same for PIT-NYC

2 week blackout seems back in effect
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehudaa on January 24, 2019, 04:46:32 PM
AA adds premium economy awards:

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/american-airlines-adds-premium-economy-awards/

Award chart is here:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-program/miles/redeem/award-travel/flight-award-chart.jsp
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: farmbochur on February 17, 2019, 08:05:17 PM
Looking to redeem AS For CX J/F JFK-YVR.
Do I have to PUTPAC?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: a mirrer on February 18, 2019, 05:52:50 AM
Looking to redeem AS For CX J/F JFK-YVR.
Do I have to PUTPAC?
yes
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: JMS on February 18, 2019, 04:22:38 PM
Does a canceled AA Saver ticket (AA metal booked with Avios) automatically go back into Saver inventory?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on February 18, 2019, 04:26:56 PM
Does a canceled AA Saver ticket (AA metal booked with Avios) automatically go back into Saver inventory?
no
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yoel F on April 04, 2019, 06:36:10 PM
I booked today 7 AA flight with BA Avios. Round Trip LGA to DCA
I need another 4 tickets for the same flight. BA does not have access to more. Other partners do show a lot of availability, but, i don't have points with them (Quantas, AA.com)
I found it thru Etihad, but they ask for much more points (25K vs 15K) and much more fees ($28.75 vs. $11.20). Per ticket. In addition Amex transfer from Amex to Etihad is down now. So, i put it on hold with via Etihad. i need to call them back once i can transfer points and want to take it.
I wonder what my other options might be, i have Chase and Amex points.

Any suggestions?
Thank you

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: PNWBear on April 05, 2019, 10:29:36 AM
I have had success with BA’s availability replenishing IF the AA flight has consistently wide-open availability.  For example, booked the last 3 available seats one day on an AA flight, and went back 24hrs later to find it had replenished back to 7 available seats for BA.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Yoel F on April 05, 2019, 10:49:23 AM
Thank you.
I did that and it kept replenishing every few hours.
i did another 4 one way.  That they had only 1 for the way back and then they had another 3 on the way back. so, i ended up getting all i wanted in a matter of less then 24 hours.
Interesting, they missed to charge the Avios on the last 2 bookings. So, when i made the last, i asked them about the one before and they charged it, now i realized that on the last booking, they didn't charge, the Avios were transferred from Amex and they sit with BA now.

Should i do anything or just wait and see?

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: PNWBear on April 05, 2019, 10:53:29 AM
I’ve never had a mistake deducting Avios for bookings.  That is definitely strange.  I’d wait and see if it corrects itself.  I wonder if it was caused by so many bookings in such a short window of time?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on April 05, 2019, 04:22:35 PM
I’ve never had a mistake deducting Avios for bookings.  That is definitely strange.  I’d wait and see if it corrects itself.  I wonder if it was caused by so many bookings in such a short window of time?
Had BA fail to deduct for bookings more than once.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: PNWBear on April 05, 2019, 04:25:20 PM
Wow!  Must be more common than I am aware of.  Crazy.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KSMH on April 05, 2019, 04:45:54 PM
Any trend or idea when they fail to deduct?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ludmila on April 05, 2019, 05:17:06 PM
Any trend or idea when they fail to deduct?
Random.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: WhiteSocks on April 13, 2019, 11:50:32 PM
On Friday I had between 3-7 seats available on LGA-CMH for Apr 30 via BA, I checked Motzeh Shabbes and none are available. is that normal? Chances of becoming available again?
Had the same thing on the return segment a day later.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ludmila on April 14, 2019, 01:50:17 AM
On Friday I had between 3-7 seats available on LGA-CMH for Apr 30 via BA, I checked Motzeh Shabbes and none are available. is that normal? Chances of becoming available again?
Had the same thing on the return segment a day later.
Someone booked the seats? No one can tell if will become available again, good luck.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: WhiteSocks on April 14, 2019, 08:08:46 AM
Someone booked the seats? No one can tell if will become available again, good luck.
Not that I know of. I wud be surprised that someone booked up all seats in one day of 6 flights.
Same thing with the return had 7 seats on BA on each of the flights - now there is 0
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: yelped on April 14, 2019, 08:57:32 AM
Not that I know of. I wud be surprised that someone booked up all seats in one day of 6 flights.
Same thing with the return had 7 seats on BA on each of the flights - now there is 0
Check on AA if they still show saver space. If they do, then call BA to book.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: WhiteSocks on April 14, 2019, 08:46:56 PM
Interesting, but it came back into inventory today. booked it. thanks all for your help.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: ludmila on April 14, 2019, 10:11:22 PM
Interesting, but it came back into inventory today. booked it. thanks all for your help.
Glad it worked for you.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KSMH on June 23, 2019, 10:55:45 PM
Any1 with recent dp for CX award availability YVR-JFK? Do they release consistently?

Showing J9 and F3.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: israshot on June 23, 2019, 11:47:29 PM
Any1 with recent dp for CX award availability YVR-JFK? Do they release consistently?

Showing J9 and F3.
According to Driving Rain on FT, every Sunday around 1030pm est they release seats for the 2 upcoming weeks.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/990738-aa-award-cathay-pacific-cx-ka-availability-etc-master-thd.html
Paragraph 5c)
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KSMH on June 24, 2019, 12:15:20 AM
According to Driving Rain on FT, every Sunday around 1030pm est they release seats for the 2 upcoming weeks.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/990738-aa-award-cathay-pacific-cx-ka-availability-etc-master-thd.html
Paragraph 5c)
I have read the FT forum, but there are reports that, due to the glitch, award availability release patterns have changed.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Savingsbeast on July 12, 2019, 05:01:35 AM
I see award availability on AA but not on BA. Is there anything I can do to get it?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KSMH on July 12, 2019, 08:00:37 AM
I see award availability on AA but not on BA. Is there anything I can do to get it?
PUTPAC
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 12, 2019, 08:11:00 AM


I see award availability on AA but not on BA. Is there anything I can do to get it?

Saver? Available as single segments? Searching BA as single segments?
If you answered yes to all 3 then:
PUTPAC

Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: Savingsbeast on July 12, 2019, 08:46:36 AM
Saver? Available as single segments? Searching BA as single segments?
If you answered yes to all 3 then:
What is saver, and how do I see whether it's saver or not?
By "single segments" you mean one-way in each direction? If so, then yes to the last two.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: chinagel on July 22, 2019, 02:51:05 PM
Is there a way to search award flights to a region on AA?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: davidrotts63 on July 22, 2019, 09:45:52 PM
Is there a way to search award flights to a region on AA?
https://www.aa.com/awardMap/home.do#
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: S123 on October 27, 2019, 10:48:45 PM
Dp, I found lots of availability for aa jfk to mia direct on the app when the website was showing none
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: mochjas on October 28, 2019, 03:01:42 PM
Dp, I found lots of availability for aa jfk to mia direct on the app when the website was showing none
availability with who?
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: S123 on October 28, 2019, 03:05:02 PM
Aa, online showed nothing available and on the app had tons of direct for 13k
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SpartanDoc on November 08, 2019, 02:22:24 PM
For anybody who is interested in travel to Australia, LOTS of First and Business availability on Qantas opened up (to/from Melbourne) for January 28 - February 12 time frame.
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: KSMH on November 08, 2019, 02:36:47 PM
For anybody who is interested in travel to Australia, LOTS of First and Business availability on Qantas opened up (to/from Melbourne) for January 28 - February 12 time frame.

Can u give examples, had a hard time finding (routes).  also see https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46360.1545
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: SpartanDoc on November 08, 2019, 06:52:39 PM
Can u give examples, had a hard time finding (routes).  also see https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46360.1545

Try SYD to DFW 2/09
SYD-SFO 2/09
SYD-LAX 2/11
SYD-LAX 2/10
SYD-DFW 2/10

and others on those
Title: Re: One World Award Search Tips
Post by: theyankel on January 16, 2020, 11:45:11 AM
what is best way to book o/w jfk-lhr-tlv on BA in j? which airline has least YQ and fees? AA has 70,000k and CX has 75
is there a better choice?