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Title: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 26, 2010, 09:32:09 PM
Update: ANA has partially blocked their Star Alliance search function. See either of these 2 posts for info on how to work around it:
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2569.0
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2569.msg34269#msg34269


-The Star Alliance is the largest airline alliance which gives great options for using miles on partners.

These are the 27 current member airlines:
-Adria
-Air Canada
-Air China
-Air New Zealand
-ANA
-Asiana Airlines
-Austrian
-Blue1
-Bmi
-Brussels Airlines
-Continental Airlines
-Croatia Airlines
-Egyptair
-LOT Polish Airlines
-Lufthansa
-Scandinavian Airlines
-Shanghai Airlines
-Singapore Airlines
-South African Airways
-Spanair
-Swiss
-TAM
-TAP Portugal
-Thai
-Turkish Airlines
-United
-US Airways

-A great search engine is ANA.
-You need to first signup for an ANA account:
https://cam.ana.co.jp/psz/amc/jsp/regist0_e.jsp

-You can then use this link to search for Star Alliance award flights:
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_en/preAwdSearchLogin.do

-Click "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines"
Perform the search, for example type in JFK to TLV.

-By default only nonstop flights are shown, for this route the Continental flights from EWR to TLV are shown.
Click "connecting flights" to display more flights.
Each leg will have:
- Which means that the class selected doesn't exist
x Which means awards are not available
OK Which means awards are available

-Click on the arrows above the flights to go back or more forward a day.
-Click "search again" to change the dates.

-ANA search is far from exhaustive, it does not search all possibilities.  To really search all options do a regular fare search on Orbitz and find all of the Star Alliance options.  Then enter in each leg separately into ANA.
For example search for JFK-IST and then IST-TLV to go on Turkish via Istanbul, or JFK-MUC and then MUC-TLV to go on Lufthansa via Munich, etc.

-If a flight is found on ANA it can be booked with the miles from any Star Alliance carrier.  The only exception is United which intentionally blocks availability when they feel like it, this is called Starnet blocking.  The mileage rate will be whatever the carrier you are redeeming with charges, not what the airline you are flying on charges.

-ANA is the best Star Alliance search engine, but it is worth also using Continental.com.  There are definitely times that Continental.com finds an option that ANA doesn't You do not need to be logged in, just enter the cities and click "reward search." 

-Once you find flights that work you need to call up the carrier on which you have the miles to book the ticket.  Tell them that you called in earlier and already found flights that worked for you, and ask if you can give them the flight numbers.  Sometimes they will let you do this other times they'll want to find the flights themselves. 

-Many agents are unfortunately incompetent and don't know how to properly look for partner availability.  When you get an agent like this just politely hang up and call again (repeat as necessary)

-Every ticketing airline has their own stopover, connection, and routing rules.  They are not always enforced.  Air Canada and USAirways are both pretty lenient and allow for multiple connections/stopovers.  United is pretty strict.

There's lots more, but that's all I have time for now...post your own tips here!


Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Lou Bob on May 26, 2010, 11:28:00 PM
wow! Dan your awsome! Thanx alot
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 01:22:20 AM
You can also check matrix.itasoftware.com for routings between cities.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 01:24:35 AM
If its possible to get a paid ticket with a certain routing, does it mean that such a routing is allowed with miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MarkS on May 27, 2010, 01:41:14 AM
If its possible to get a paid ticket with a certain routing, does it mean that such a routing is allowed with miles?
. not at all. All airlines only allow a certain amounts of award avail. Once that is used up, that flight can not be booked on miles even through a partner airline. Imagine if 300 people booked a particular flight on miles. The airline would lose tons of $. So flights that are full in award searches still come up on $ searches bec they still have empty seats- just not seats they are willing to give away free.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 01:49:50 AM
. not at all. All airlines only allow a certain amounts of award avail. Once that is used up, that flight can not be booked on miles even through a partner airline. Imagine if 300 people booked a particular flight on miles. The airline would lose tons of $. So flights that are full in award searches still come up on $ searches bec they still have empty seats- just not seats they are willing to give away free.
I was asking about the routing, not availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: moish on May 27, 2010, 04:38:09 AM
ozzy, he was joking. of course he understood what you were asking
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Shlomi on May 27, 2010, 06:21:49 AM
Cool!  8)

I've been waiting for such a his guide for a long long time...

Thanks so much Dan!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Shlomi on May 27, 2010, 06:22:29 AM
Cool!  8)

I've been waiting for such a his guide for a long long time...

Thanks so much Dan!

*such a guide...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 27, 2010, 07:07:06 AM
this must become a must read for all members, which would save 1000's of hours to the members that are helping out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 07:20:17 AM
ozzy, he was joking. of course he understood what you were asking
And the answer is?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2010, 09:34:28 AM
If its possible to get a paid ticket with a certain routing, does it mean that such a routing is allowed with miles?
Some airlines restrict routing.  For example AA and United won't let you fly to Australia via Asia while Continental will.
USAirways' agents often don't enforce rules at all...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 02:34:10 PM
Some airlines restrict routing.  For example AA and United won't let you fly to Australia via Asia while Continental will.
USAirways' agents often don't enforce rules at all...
Is there anywhere I can find the routing rules for award travel.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 27, 2010, 05:55:53 PM
I was told for transatlantics, iata restricts either 3 stops, or 1 open jaw and 1 stop. stopovers less then 24 hours don't count.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 07:27:45 PM
Will AA let me go from TLV-MEL via LHR? This is the only route that is being shown as available on Qantas.com. I know ElAl definitely flies MEL-HKG-TEL which would be the optimum but I can't find availability for the life of me, at least on Qantas.com.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2010, 07:31:53 PM
Will AA let me go from TLV-MEL via LHR? This is the only route that is being shown as available on Qantas.com. I know ElAl definitely flies MEL-HKG-TEL which would be the optimum but I can't find availability for the life of me, at least on Qantas.com.
Call AA and ask!
El Al is not part of one OneWorld and therefore won't show up on Qantas.
You can check El Al availability on Expertflyer.com or by calling up AA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 07:46:57 PM
Call AA and ask!
El Al is not part of one OneWorld and therefore won't show up on Qantas.
You can check El Al availability on Expertflyer.com or by calling up AA.
To clarify, El Al is not part of the Oneworld alliance but you can redeem AA miles with them.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2010, 07:55:50 PM
To clarify, El Al is not part of the Oneworld alliance but you can redeem AA miles with them.
Yes.
Most airlines have an alliance they belong to as well as non-alliance airlines.
For example Continental is partners with airlines like Copa, Emirates, EVA, Hawaiian, Island Air, Virgin Atlantic, etc. in addition to the 27 *A members.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 27, 2010, 09:09:50 PM
Some airlines restrict routing.  For example AA and United won't let you fly to Australia via Asia while Continental will.
USAirways' agents often don't enforce rules at all...
This is the info I've gathered from a couple of calls,
AA will only allow routing through Asia on a Middle East-South Pacific award flight.
US will allow whatever you want.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 28, 2010, 03:43:00 AM
You can fly from TLV via LHR to MEL/SYD.

I told you in the beginning of the post to trust me, why do you keep on going in circles and don't just pick up the phone.

About elal, I believe they are what I call a semi partner, so you can use AA to book elal, however it won't be a standard by them.
But, say AA 6006, operated by etihad going from AUH-JFK cannot be booked with AA miles, as they are only codeshare (even less then semi partner).

Aa with elal, is about the same connection as CO with Virgin.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 28, 2010, 03:51:28 AM
You can fly from TLV via LHR to MEL/SYD.

I told you in the beginning of the post to trust me, why do you keep on going in circles and don't just pick up the phone.

About elal, I believe they are what I call a semi partner, so you can use AA to book elal, however it won't be a standard by them.
But, say AA 6006, operated by etihad going from AUH-JFK cannot be booked with AA miles, as they are only codeshare (even less then semi partner).

Aa with elal, is about the same connection as CO with Virgin.
When I called AA I was told that I can't go through LHR because routing is not allowed through Europe. I informed the rep that i can book it on Qantas.com. She just said that different airlines have different routing rules. Is this true or should I just call back?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: damaxer91 on May 28, 2010, 04:40:19 AM
When I called AA I was told that I can't go through LHR because routing is not allowed through Europe. I informed the rep that i can book it on Qantas.com. She just said that different airlines have different routing rules. Is this true or should I just call back?

It is true. Middle East to South Pacific is only allowed via Asia when booking with AA Miles
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 28, 2010, 05:59:25 AM
It is true. Middle East to South Pacific is only allowed via Asia when booking with AA Miles

when did that change, some guys told me that they did it.

what routing do you follow then?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 28, 2010, 06:13:10 AM
when did that change, some guys told me that they did it.

what routing do you follow then?
TLV-HKG on El Al and then HKG-MEL on Qantas or Cathy Pacific.
Shame that AA has this routing rule because the availability for premium class on El Al is terrible.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: damaxer91 on May 28, 2010, 09:10:43 AM
TLV-HKG on El Al and then HKG-MEL on Qantas or Cathy Pacific.
Shame that AA has this routing rule because the availability for premium class on El Al is terrible.

You can do TLV-BKK-MEL/SYD as well. Availability is pretty good on El Al for TLV-BKK in Business. Another possibility would be Royal Jordanian to BKK or HKG
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 28, 2010, 09:26:31 AM
You can do TLV-BKK-MEL/SYD as well. Availability is pretty good on El Al for TLV-BKK in Business. Another possibility would be Royal Jordanian to BKK or HKG
Does El Al not release F tickets or do they just sell out straight away? I've checked tons of dates both BKK-MEL and HKG-MEL and couldn't find a single seat.
Is flying Royal Jordanian safe?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: damaxer91 on May 28, 2010, 11:18:06 AM
Does El Al not release F tickets or do they just sell out straight away? I've checked tons of dates both BKK-MEL and HKG-MEL and couldn't find a single seat.
Is flying Royal Jordanian safe?

El Al does not allow F bookings using partner miles. Only Y and J.

Ask "Moish". He enjoyed it a lot!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: moish on May 28, 2010, 11:38:04 AM
wht wouldnt it be safe?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on May 28, 2010, 01:23:19 PM


Is flying Royal Jordanian safe?


 as safe as flying Turkish or any other Carrier, and youd find tons of Jewish Israelis on the flight with you as well, since its usually alot less then ElAls prices

 Ive done TK with layovers to/from TLV of apx 3 hrs never had any problem in the airport.And from some trip reports on here others who went into IST itself are still alive and well
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 28, 2010, 01:23:56 PM
Anyone ever fly Royal Jordanian? Experiences?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: moish on May 29, 2010, 04:38:47 PM
i did. it was fine. granted, i wore a cap
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: me on May 29, 2010, 11:03:15 PM
-A great search engine is ANA.
-You need to first signup for an ANA account:
https://cam.ana.co.jp/psz/amc/jsp/regist0_e.jsp

-You can then use this link to search for Star Alliance award flights:
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_en/preAwdSearchLogin.do

-Click "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines"
Perform the search, for example type in JFK to TLV.

-By default only nonstop flights are shown, for this route the Continental flights from EWR to TLV are shown.
Click "connecting flights" to display more flights.
Each leg will have:
- Which means that the class selected doesn't exist
x Which means awards are not available
OK Which means awards are available

Why does it sometimes say ok (ie seats available) but the selct button is faded (ie not applicable)?

How do you get around that?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2010, 11:28:07 PM
Why does it sometimes say ok (ie seats available) but the selct button is faded (ie not applicable)?

How do you get around that?
That's for the return, you first need to pick an outbound flight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: me on May 29, 2010, 11:31:38 PM
That's for the return, you first need to pick an outbound flight.

Its even for the outbound. I called Aeroplan and they said that it wasnt available...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2010, 11:32:56 PM
Its even for the outbound. I called Aeroplan and they said that it wasnt available...
Which route/date?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: me on May 29, 2010, 11:38:18 PM
Which route/date?

YUL - TLV June 2 - 10

Both ways there is seats available but not applicable - when calling Aeroplan they said they didnt see any availability
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on May 30, 2010, 01:11:21 AM
YUL - TLV June 2 - 10

Both ways there is seats available but not applicable - when calling Aeroplan they said they didnt see any availability
On ANA it has to be booked at least 7 days in advance, if it is less than 7 days then it wont allow you to select.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 10, 2010, 12:23:07 PM
ive been trying for a few weeks already to get a ticket to israel but cant get availability . if anyone out there can somehow figure out a way i really would appreciate it
i need to leave either on the dec 22 or 23. if its the 23 then it would have to be early enough to arrive by friday morning
i cal go from ny newark or phili. (preferably not phili)
my return is either jan 2 or 3.
i would like a bus class ticket
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 10, 2010, 12:36:15 PM
ive been trying for a few weeks already to get a ticket to israel but cant get availability . if anyone out there can somehow figure out a way i really would appreciate it
i need to leave either on the dec 22 or 23. if its the 23 then it would have to be early enough to arrive by friday morning
i cal go from ny newark or phili. (preferably not phili)
my return is either jan 2 or 3.
i would like a bus class ticket
If you can come back on 1/4 then the following is available;
12/22(WE) LH403  New York(EWR)   Frankfurt  18:10 07:50+1   Business 
12/23(TH) LH686  Frankfurt   Tel Aviv   10:05 14:50   Business 
1/4(TU) LH691  Tel Aviv   Frankfurt   05:30 09:10   Business 
1/4(TU) LH402  Frankfurt   New York(EWR)   13:15 16:20   Business
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 10, 2010, 12:40:04 PM
 seems someone forgot to say they didnt want to go via Germany
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 10, 2010, 12:43:45 PM
seems someone forgot to say they didnt want to go via Germany
A shame to rule it out as it is only a 2 and 4 hour stopover...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2010, 12:52:16 PM
A shame to rule it out as it is only a 2 and 4 hour stopover...
And there's great business lounges in FRA to wait that out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 10, 2010, 01:00:46 PM
A shame to rule it out as it is only a 2 and 4 hour stopover...

 I dont care for LH and remember the 744 is 2-3-2 and its not really a bed as it does angle and people do have problems sleeping on them much as COs old BF seats on its 777

 Now is it better then Coach YEP, but I would prefer US then CO then maybe LX
 now if you can grab the LX 333 thats a Great deal but not sure what they use into TLV I think its the 332 with the non lie-flat type but the 333 is like CO or USs new seats
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 10, 2010, 01:17:37 PM
When there are lots of availabilty then you can pick and choose but for those dates these are the only ones I found easily. There might be other combinations but probably with longer stops if any...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 10, 2010, 01:18:26 PM
thank u . if indeed that is available i think i will do it even though it means another day.
is business seats really that bad on these planes that its not worth the miles?
Mikeoracle i left you my email in the message that i replied so use that please.
steve u know who i am so ill probably call u soon
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 10, 2010, 01:41:26 PM
 a favor for and from ygift;

hed like to know does anyone know what US will allow in the way of changing flights and or dates once you have been tkted and have no Status with US

eg ygift tkts the itin mikeorcale posted then in a month CO opens up their non-stop flight, can he make any changes and if yes what if anything will US charge for it?

I dont know the Ins & Outs of DM (Dividend Miles USs prog) and told yg I would post this for him as he wont have access till later today and hoped by then there would some people who relpied to his Question/s

 he plans to get what mike posted to be put onto a Hold for now
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2010, 01:44:23 PM
a favor for and from ygift;

hed like to know does anyone know what US will allow in the way of changing flights and or dates once you have been tkted and have no Status with US

eg ygift tkts the itin mikeorcale posted then in a month CO opens up their non-stop flight, can he make any changes and if yes what if anything will US charge for it?

I dont know the Ins & Outs of DM (Dividend Miles USs prog) and told yg I would post this for him as he wont have access till later today and hoped by then there would some people who relpied to his Question/s

 he plans to get what mike posted to be put onto a Hold for now
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7621
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 10, 2010, 01:54:16 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/7621


 left him Voicemail Thanks, as U can see I wont be making the JGrill even to try their Chinese tonight 2 pm and still not out of the house
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
left him Voicemail Thanks, as U can see I wont be making the JGrill even to try their Chinese tonight 2 pm and still not out of the house
Where are you staying? If you're in the Beachwood area I'd be happy to bring you some food.

Note that no changes are permitted using US miles for *A after departure (Same stupid rule as UA has)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 10, 2010, 02:05:55 PM
Where are you staying? If you're in the Beachwood area I'd be happy to bring you some food.

Note that no changes are permitted using US miles for *A after departure (Same stupid rule as UA has)

 you forgot already a Hampton Inn by CLE thanks for the offer but its not necessary , Ill just junk food it every time I gas up. That way I can keep the old saying alive , " Eat Here Get Gas".
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2010, 02:09:00 PM
you forgot already a Hampton Inn by CLE thanks for the offer but its not necessary , Ill just junk food it every time I gas up. That way I can keep the old saying alive , " Eat Here Get Gas".
Nu, so swing by the Beachwood Hamption Inn.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 10, 2010, 02:11:40 PM
Nu, so swing by the Beachwood Hamption Inn.

its alot more then $71 and I did a prepaid anyway

Ok no joke gotta pack up and hit the road , next post will be from Cleveland or Dansland
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 11, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
I cannot figure out how to search for a one way flight using ANA?? Where is the option for One Way???
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 11, 2010, 01:31:42 PM
I cannot figure out how to search for a one way flight using ANA?? Where is the option for One Way???
ANA does not allow one way awards- so you have to search for 2 way.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 12, 2010, 07:44:13 PM
ANA does not allow one way awards- so you have to search for 2 way.

no
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 13, 2010, 11:50:56 AM
Posting for Ygift;

He has that itinerary on hold with US but his points didnt post yet from SPG transfer and the hold is up today.
When he called US to extend the hold, they told him they dont do it anymore (something to do with the partner airlines) and can only rebook if the seats are still available- which they arent. Does anyone have any tips how he can have them extend the hold until his points come through?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2010, 12:30:35 PM
Posting for Ygift;

He has that itinerary on hold with US but his points didnt post yet from SPG transfer and the hold is up today.
When he called US to extend the hold, they told him they dont do it anymore (something to do with the partner airlines) and can only rebook if the seats are still available- which they arent. Does anyone have any tips how he can have them extend the hold until his points come through?
You need to make a change to the flights on hold or add a flight and it will be automatically extended.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 13, 2010, 12:37:30 PM
so an added leg nyc-PHL would work, right?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2010, 12:44:44 PM
so an added leg nyc-PHL would work, right?
Yes, but that would leave you with an open jaw unless you add the identical flight at the end.
US allows either an open jaw or a stopover.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 13, 2010, 12:56:41 PM
If you can come back on 1/4 then the following is available;
12/22(WE) LH403  New York(EWR)   Frankfurt  18:10 07:50+1   Business 
12/23(TH) LH686  Frankfurt   Tel Aviv   10:05 14:50   Business 
1/4(TU) LH691  Tel Aviv   Frankfurt   05:30 09:10   Business 
1/4(TU) LH402  Frankfurt   New York(EWR)   13:15 16:20   Business

Since the above itinerary doesnt utilize either a stopover nor an open jaw, adding the following leg  on 1/5;
CO8801 New York(EWR)-Philadelphia 07:45 -09:02

Should work, right?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
Since the above itinerary doesnt utilize either a stopover nor an open jaw, adding the following leg  on 1/5;
CO8801 New York(EWR)-Philadelphia 07:45 -09:02

Should work, right?
Correct.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 14, 2010, 12:56:14 AM
i tried doing the addition but it didnt work. the agent said that if it was a us airways flight then they might have been able to do something but since it was a partner airline (luftanza) there is nothing they can do. So now i lost the booking and im stuck with 120,000 miles in us air acount. i hope something opens up as it gets closer.
if anyone out there has any need for a us airways mileage ticket and can swap with me maybe we can do a deal. give me a shout
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 14, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
Ygift,
How flexible are your dates? is there a specific date or range that you have to be there and can work around that?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 14, 2010, 02:21:47 PM
I am going for yahrtzeit which comes out dec 30. so although i am somewhat flexible i need that time period and i try to be there for 2 shabosim. I prefer to be back for jan 3 work day but if i can only get the return a day or 2 later i would do it. the outbound is a problem because to go later then the 22nd will run in to shabos problem
meanwhile i am stuck with no booking and 120,000 mles that didnt even post yet to the us acount
as of now it looks like ill have to purchase a ticket in couch unless something opens over the next few months
i dont want to use miles for a couch ticket
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: kivabb on June 14, 2010, 04:59:57 PM
Every ticketing airline has their own stopover, connection, and routing rules.  They are not always enforced.  Air Canada and USAirways are both pretty lenient and allow for multiple connections/stopovers. 


I want to fly business NYC to TLV via Zurich-Geneva (stop there for 2 days) on Swiss, and then fly CO or US direct from TLV-EWR or PHL. How many miles would I need for that with stop over included using US miles? Will US be more lenient then CO on stopovers?  Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 14, 2010, 05:19:32 PM
I want to fly business NYC to TLV via Zurich-Geneva (stop there for 2 days) on Swiss, and then fly CO or US direct from TLV-EWR or PHL. How many miles would I need for that with stop over included using US miles? Will US be more lenient then CO on stopovers?  Thanks
You can do nyc-zrh-tlv with a 2 day stop in zurich and come back to ewr for 120K in biz. or leave from phl and return to phl without any issues whatsoever (pending availability of course)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: kivabb on June 14, 2010, 05:24:02 PM
You can do nyc-zrh-tlv with a 2 day stop in zurich and come back to ewr for 120K in biz. or leave from phl and return to phl without any issues whatsoever (pending availability of course)

Thanks. If I have 240K (wife and I) in both US and CO, does it make a difference which one I use (obviously I would rather burn the US miles)?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 14, 2010, 05:25:28 PM
CO will be 115K not such a difference but everything else should be pretty similar
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: kivabb on June 14, 2010, 05:33:50 PM
CO will be 115K not such a difference but everything else should be pretty similar

Great. So assuming I split carriers and go Swiss to TLV with stop over and return with CO, I see SWISS website that it has some flights servioced by PRIVATAIR from EWR to Zurich. Anyone ever hear of that? Is that something I want to avoid?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 14, 2010, 05:35:59 PM
I am going for yahrtzeit which comes out dec 30. so although i am somewhat flexible i need that time period and i try to be there for 2 shabosim. I prefer to be back for jan 3 work day but if i can only get the return a day or 2 later i would do it. the outbound is a problem because to go later then the 22nd will run in to shabos problem
what about shifting the trip a little and leaving on the 29th and returning on the 5th, something like this all in Biz;
Depart:3:55 p.m. Wed., Dec. 29, 2010 EWR Arrive:9:15 a.m. +1  Dec. 30, 2010 (TLV) CO84

return:
Depart:1:20 a.m. Thu., Jan. 6, 2011-TLV Arrive: 5:20 a.m.Jan. 6 (BRU) SN3292
Depart:9:50 a.m.Thu., Jan. 6, 2011 (BRU) Arrive:12:25 p.m. Thu., Jan. 6, 2011 EWR  CO61
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 14, 2010, 06:01:46 PM
the 29th is to late. i ned to be there by wed eve. already. plus that cuts the whole trip in half.
if nothing opens up to do the mileage ticket i will buy a regular couch ticket on elal and then hope for a bump since its high season. that happened to me 2 1/2 yearss when i was with 2 kids so we had extra tickets to go in the summer again
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 14, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
i just booked for the 21st from jfk returning to newark on the 5th
i dont know yet if ill keep it (or if my miles will even get in to the acct so far its not in there yet) but meanwhile i have it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 14, 2010, 06:48:34 PM
now they finally have the miles posted but they are making a problem with the 50% bonus. They are telling me up to a week!?! that means ill loose the new reservation that i have
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 14, 2010, 06:58:21 PM
if anyone can take a minute and call the milage center to complain i would appreciate it. The agent told me when the reservation was made that they would give me the courtesy of the 50% bonus as soon as the miles post so that i would not loose the resrvation. Now they are not honoring that commitment so maybe if there are many people that complain they will do what they said they would
thank you  My dividend number is 157H9R2
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 14, 2010, 11:44:20 PM
Great. So assuming I split carriers and go Swiss to TLV with stop over and return with CO, I see SWISS website that it has some flights servioced by PRIVATAIR from EWR to Zurich. Anyone ever hear of that? Is that something I want to avoid?

 Privatair gets a pretty bad rap on FT
 
its a 737-800 with the old type of biz seats = not lie-flat or flat-bed
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 15, 2010, 05:51:48 AM
A biz class only flight.

Btw, most people complaints stem from the fact that people flying business want to see others flying cargo....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: andrew on June 15, 2010, 03:24:49 PM
"AIR CANADA  permits crossing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans on a single award without bumping up to a round the world award"
can some one give an exaple itenarary for this and the amount of miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2010, 03:35:21 PM
"AIR CANADA  permits crossing both the Atlantic and Pacific oceans on a single award without bumping up to a round the world award"
can some one give an exaple itenarary for this and the amount of miles?
JFK-FRA-NRT-JFK would be 75/100/120 in Y/J/F.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 15, 2010, 03:44:01 PM
JFK-FRA-NRT-JFK would be 75/100/120 in Y/J/F.
For a visual see here (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=Jfk-fra-nrt-jfk&MS=wls&DU=mi).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: andrew on June 15, 2010, 05:18:33 PM
whats y/j/f ?
so if im not mistaken this is a round trip jfk-nrt trip which they allow you to take a stop over in fra, and correct me if im wrong that it cant be the opposite as in jfk fra round trip with a stop over in nrt bec that would be a north america europe itenarary which would cost 60/80/100.
now how many stop overs more then 24 hours and how many stop overs less then 24 hrs does air canada allow?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 15, 2010, 05:28:09 PM
You are allowed 2 stopovers. Stopever is more then 24 hours. Less then that is a connection and the the amount of them they'll allow probably depends on the agent you speak to. They don't allow back-tracking and in general it has to be more or less the direct route.
 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: andrew on June 15, 2010, 05:33:32 PM
thanks, could you answer the other 2 questions i had?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 15, 2010, 05:47:25 PM
thanks, could you answer the other 2 questions i had?
You're kidding me, right?
You write in your post 60/80/100 and you don't know what y/j/f is?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: andrew on June 15, 2010, 05:53:49 PM
im not kiddin ive never seen that ever!
why would air canada let this jfk-nrt-fra-jfk be 60/80/120 but charge 75/etc for jfk/fra/nrt/jfk? something doesnt make sence unless that the perk about air canada that you could get away with such a booking
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 16, 2010, 01:22:17 PM
now they finally have the miles posted but they are making a problem with the 50% bonus. They are telling me up to a week!?! that means ill loose the new reservation that i have

 saw this elsewhere http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14059000-post30.html  did your bonus post yesterday?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 16, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
no and they told me that that it takes "up to a week"
If its done on tuesdays then why wasnt it done when the miles posted on tuesday????
i guess i will loose the reservation again and then have to hope something opens up again
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ygift on June 20, 2010, 02:24:38 AM
i was just able to rebook my reservation which  means i will have the bonus miles posted beforw the booking expires.
It was not available anymore however when the aagent tried breaking it up and doing it segment by segment thats when it worked
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 22, 2010, 04:41:08 PM
I followed the instructions in Dans opening email. I found an itiniery via Continental award search engine that was available for miles. I called US Air  and tried booking this flight but they told me it was not available for miles!!! From reading these posts I was under the impression that if it shows availiability on ANA or Continental it shouldbe available via US too. What am I missing???
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 04:43:37 PM
I followed the instructions in Dans opening email. I found an itiniery via Continental award search engine that was available for miles. I called US Air  and tried booking this flight but they told me it was not available for miles!!! From reading these posts I was under the impression that if it shows availiability on ANA or Continental it shouldbe available via US too. What am I missing???

1) Is it still available

2) There are some discrepancies, between different star alliance members. I booked today a zrh-tlv in eco, which according to ANA wasn't available... (and I wasn't using LX miles)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 22, 2010, 04:47:50 PM
I followed the instructions in Dans opening email. I found an itiniery via Continental award search engine that was available for miles. I called US Air  and tried booking this flight but they told me it was not available for miles!!! From reading these posts I was under the impression that if it shows availiability on ANA or Continental it shouldbe available via US too. What am I missing???
Did it show available on CO as Saverpass or was it an Easypass ticket?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 04:57:28 PM
What am I missing???
Assuming you're not logged in as an elite and it was saverpass you just need to call again.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 22, 2010, 04:59:29 PM
@ SuperFlyer: It is still Available

@ Mikeoracle: it is available via Easypass not saverpass. Is that the problem?

My itiniery is as follows: Sunday 8/15 NYC to WAW. Must get there before 10:30AM. Returning on 8/23 evening from VIE to NYC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 05:01:14 PM
Assuming you're not logged in as an elite and it was saverpass you just need to call again.

Laav davke my friend, I believe that besides the fact that every airline allows some more space for their own kind of miles, that there are 2 types of star alliance partners (at least).

Say, where air canada finds availability (on say LH) CO or BMI might not find it.

US has a longer delay till seats reopen compared to ana, and so on.

Just things you notice along the way.

You might find different theories to what I said, but those things happened.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 05:02:12 PM
@ SuperFlyer: It is still Available

@ Mikeoracle: it is available via Easypass not saverpass. Is that the problem?

My itiniery is as follows: Sunday 8/15 NYC to WAW. Must get there before 10:30AM. Returning on 8/23 evening from VIE to NYC.

Available on CO? or ANA? your original comment suggested being available on both.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 05:07:54 PM
@ Mikeoracle: it is available via Easypass not saverpass. Is that the problem?
Of course that's the problem.
You can only book easypass tickets by using the miles of that carrier.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 22, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
There was another Business Class flight that was available with both Easypass and ANA but US Air still showed no availability. I did not push it because its gets me to WAW at 1:55 PM and I need to be there by 10:30 AM. But I was surprised that US Air told me that it is not available for miles .(They showed no availability with any carrier on 8/15)

It is Flight # LO16 from EWR to WAW on 8/15
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 05:35:26 PM
There was another Business Class flight that was available with both Easypass and ANA but US Air still showed no availability. I did not push it because its gets me to WAW at 1:55 PM and I need to be there by 10:30 AM. But I was surprised that US Air told me that it is not available for miles .(They showed no availability with any carrier on 8/15)

It is Flight # LO16 from EWR to WAW on 8/15

 flight #016 with LOT is not EasyPass but SaverPass and Im very surprised US didnt have it available
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 05:36:54 PM
flight #016 with LOT is not EasyPass but SaverPass and Im very surprised US didnt have it available

confirming my point...

Laav davke my friend, I believe that besides the fact that every airline allows some more space for their own kind of miles, that there are 2 types of star alliance partners (at least).

Say, where air canada finds availability (on say LH) CO or BMI might not find it.

US has a longer delay till seats reopen compared to ana, and so on.

Just things you notice along the way.

You might find different theories to what I said, but those things happened.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 05:40:11 PM
confirming my point...

Or confirming that BrooklynCPA had a lazy tuchus agent who just said no availability that day.
Call back, find a good agent, and I'll bet they'll magically find availability on that flight.

Be sure to use my standard line...another agent found availability on xxx flight earlier but I wasn't ready to book can you please see if it's still available.  Works like a charm once you have find a good agent.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 05:42:54 PM
Or confirming that BrooklynCPA had a lazy tuchus agent who just said no availability that day.
Call back, find a good agent, and I'll bet they'll magically find availability on that flight.

Be sure to use my standard line...another agent found availability on xxx flight earlier but I wasn't ready to book can you please see if it's still available.  Works like a charm once you have find a good agent.

this theory of yours works, when I ask for a flight from CLE to OUA.

When you give them one specific flight, what else is there to do?


(on oneworld its a different story, as some flights don't search 'well' together, and need to be searched manually = separately)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 05:44:42 PM
this theory of yours works, when I ask for a flight from CLE to OUA.

When you give them one specific flight, what else is there to do?


(on oneworld its a different story, as some flights don't search 'well' together, and need to be searched manually = separately)
I'm convinced that some agents don't even bother.
Call centers agents often get compensated for how quickly they get customers off the phone.  The agent can make a big bonus by just always denying availability!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 05:45:41 PM
I'm convinced that some agents don't even bother.
Call centers agents often get compensated for how quickly they get customers off the phone.  The agent can make a big bonus by just always denying availability!


you mean an inverted CO system?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 05:50:14 PM
I'm convinced that some agents don't even bother.
Call centers agents often get compensated for how quickly they get customers off the phone.  The agent can make a big bonus by just always denying availability!


 very true but also some carriers must be done manually and if LO is that way with US, then could be the agent didnt want to be tied up for so long. Also certain Carriers transfer you over to another desk that handles those reses that need specal attention and that agent simply might have not known and once their screen didnt show anything assumed that meant nothing is available
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 05:52:41 PM
I'm convinced that some agents don't even bother.
Call centers agents often get compensated for how quickly they get customers off the phone.  The agent can make a big bonus by just always denying availability!


Alright, is there anyway to find out where those reps live?

I believe its time to move to plan B.

Thats the part where they turn into real estate...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 22, 2010, 08:49:07 PM
Be sure to use my standard line...another agent found availability on xxx flight earlier but I wasn't ready to book can you please see if it's still available.  Works like a charm once you have find a good agent.
Worked like a charm for me today. Called BA, told the agent that I already worked out all the availability earlier with another agent and had it all written down so I can help him find the flights ;D -I then rattled off a 5 leg (questionably borderline) Itinerary and he just booked it no problem.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 22, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
When the agent looked up my US Dividend number and saw I had a 0 balance she told me that she doesn't have the time to spend 45 minutes looking for flights when I don't even have the miles. I told her that I would transfer Starwood points but I need to know if its available first, She worked with me but was impatiant. I should have hung up right away and called back.

However, when I gave her an exact flight number she should have had an easy way to see if it was available and she was therefore probably correct when she said it wasn't.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 09:00:38 PM
When the agent looked up my US Dividend number and saw I had a 0 balance she told me that she doesn't have the time to spend 45 minutes looking for flights when I don't even have the miles. I told her that I would transfer Starwood points but I need to know if its available first, She worked with me but was impatiant. I should have hung up right away and called back.

However, when I gave her an exact flight number she should have had an easy way to see if it was available and she was therefore probably correct when she said it wasn't.
If an agent ever told me that I'd hang up on the spot. No point of bothering when the agent will just pretend to try.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yare on June 23, 2010, 01:39:12 PM
i had an agent with aa who was being extremely rude and making noises every time i asked her to try something else... i said to her," i dont know why you're being so rude, i'm being very polite and all i'm asking you is for you to do you're job"   she actually got a lot nicer after that
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 23, 2010, 01:44:26 PM
Alright, is there anyway to find out where those reps live?

I believe its time to move to plan B.

Thats the part where they turn into real estate...

I seem to be the only one with a plan out here...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: BrooklynCPA on June 29, 2010, 12:49:19 PM
Per Dans original post

Quote:
-You can then use this link to search for Star Alliance award flights:
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_en/preAwdSearchLogin.do

This link takes me to the correct website but it does not let me get into where I can search for Partner flights. Can someone try it and let me know if its only me thats having this problem???
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on June 29, 2010, 12:54:08 PM
Per Dans original post

Quote:
-You can then use this link to search for Star Alliance award flights:
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_en/preAwdSearchLogin.do

This link takes me to the correct website but it does not let me get into where I can search for Partner flights. Can someone try it and let me know if its only me thats having this problem???

 here U go;
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2569.0
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Club2000 on July 06, 2010, 03:05:15 PM
*ALLIANCE AND *WOOD THE EST PROGRAM EVRE
and with ANA it make it very easy to use

thanks dan
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on July 11, 2010, 05:01:18 AM
Does Continental consider dep. EWR and returning to JFK as an open-jaw or not?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on July 11, 2010, 10:08:11 PM
On CO, does anybody know if changing an award flight from, with a stopover to direct (e.g. TLV-BRU-EWR to TLV-EWR), would constitute as a "change of stopover" and therefore incur fees?
Any help is appreciated, as well as if anyone knows the answer to my previous question in the post above.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: steve2 on July 11, 2010, 10:15:23 PM
On CO, does anybody know if changing an award flight from, with a stopover to direct (e.g. TLV-BRU-EWR to TLV-EWR), would constitute as a "change of stopover" and therefore incur fees?
Any help is appreciated, as well as if anyone knows the answer to my previous question in the post above.


http://www.continental.com/web/en-US/content/onepass/rewards/travel/ticketing.aspx

 as long as the trip is at least 21 days out no problem since you are still keeping the O/D as TLV/EWR, otherwise the fees are based on what if any status you have with CO. I assumed the Miles came out of CO and not any other Program

 i dont believe if theres a Stopover or where is Important, its the O/D that is important


Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2010, 10:20:18 PM
On CO, does anybody know if changing an award flight from, with a stopover to direct (e.g. TLV-BRU-EWR to TLV-EWR), would constitute as a "change of stopover" and therefore incur fees?
Any help is appreciated, as well as if anyone knows the answer to my previous question in the post above.

I think EWR/JFK is not an open-jaw, but probably a YMMV issue.

Changing stopover to nonstop or vice versa is free 21+ days out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on July 11, 2010, 10:22:11 PM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yaakov on July 15, 2010, 02:36:11 PM
does anybody know how much taxes+fuel surcharges ana charges for flights bet
nyc-tlv
phl-tlv
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on July 15, 2010, 02:37:53 PM
does anybody know how much taxes+fuel surcharges ana charges for flights bet
nyc-tlv
phl-tlv

Try a search next time. http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1592.msg12615#msg12615 (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1592.msg12615#msg12615)

It depends what airline you fly on
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yaakov on July 15, 2010, 02:44:38 PM
so if i book through ana the us airways flight for 60k i wont pay any surcharge.

for your info i worked out with virgin atlantic in their system to have the us airways flight fo 50k. but i think they charge. (i still never found a open date. could be im trying succos time)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chuchem on August 03, 2010, 09:35:42 AM
Hi I am normally quite good at it, but need some quick help. Have 4 friends that need to go from NYC to Tlv. Dec 22- Jan 2 or 3. they have miles from *alliance
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on August 03, 2010, 10:54:55 AM
Hi I am normally quite good at it, but need some quick help. Have 4 friends that need to go from NYC to Tlv. Dec 22- Jan 2 or 3. they have miles from *alliance
Business or Coach?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Blazer on August 03, 2010, 12:04:09 PM
I need to fly from Montreal to NY (Leaving this Thur and coming back Sun) it's costing me $1,000 for 2 round trip tickets. Is there a way for me to buy milage that would come out cheeper.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chuchem on August 03, 2010, 12:09:40 PM
business
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Club2000 on August 04, 2010, 02:06:58 AM
I am a member of ANA but they dont let do you have a special link?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on August 15, 2010, 12:11:10 PM
Called CO about changing the return date of a flight (mid June 2011) and they said its a $75 change fee. I told her its only when changing within 21 days of the flight. I was put through to the supervisor and she told me since I haven't taken the outbound and that's within 21 days the fee applies. She suggested that I call back after I have taken the outbound and then the next flight is more then 21 days out.
Anyone ever had this before? S

Sounds like very backwards logic. :o Anyone have this before?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 15, 2010, 12:12:15 PM
Called CO about changing the return date of a flight (mid June 2011) and they said its a $75 change fee. I told her its only when changing within 21 days of the flight. I was put through to the supervisor and she told me since I haven't taken the outbound and that's within 21 days the fee applies. She suggested that I call back after I have taken the outbound and then the next flight is more then 21 days out.
Anyone ever had this before? S

ounds like very backwards logic. :o Anyone have this before?
Call back until you find someone who'll do it for free.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chuchem on August 17, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
Has anyone else realized this as well lately

If I want to book a flight with LH with Partner miles its really hard to get seats in C and F. The same flight with MM miles is no problem. They are blocking more and more seats for their own miles programm
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 17, 2010, 10:53:17 AM
I've noticed that, but its an old story, not worse now then before.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on August 17, 2010, 11:27:32 AM
I still can't find any LX seats ZRH-JFK.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chuchem on August 17, 2010, 11:58:27 AM
I have the feeling its getting worse!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Club2000 on August 17, 2010, 05:11:20 PM
what is the best option to check availblty on flight
KVS is stil valid?

what with ana its open to certein ppl if u are an active mmbere or even not
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Smirk on October 07, 2010, 06:40:40 AM
Anyone know any ways to get CO to put a ticket on hold even if you have the points in your account?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 07, 2010, 10:55:44 AM
I'm not sure, but if the 24 hour grace period to cancel a tix applies also to CO OP, then you just book a random tix, to drop the balance below the required amount for the tix you want to put on hold.
I guess that if you cancel your first (random) booking online, the other one will stay on hold.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on October 07, 2010, 11:20:58 AM
I'm not sure, but if the 24 hour grace period to cancel a tix applies also to CO OP, then you just book a random tix, to drop the balance below the required amount for the tix you want to put on hold.
I guess that if you cancel your first (random) booking online, the other one will stay on hold.
Would creating a new account under the same name and putting the ticket on Hold, then merge the accounts 2 days later work?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 07, 2010, 02:42:16 PM
Would creating a new account under the same name and putting the ticket on Hold, then merge the accounts 2 days later work?
No need to merge. You can hold a ticket under one account and ticket with miles from another...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Smirk on October 07, 2010, 03:29:09 PM
Ok so that gives you 3 days. Any way to get a bit more?
Once 3 days is up would they extend it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: njmacman on October 24, 2010, 06:37:45 PM
If I book a flight to Israel on Continental using ANA points will I get Continental EQMs? Or is it the same as using COntinental points- the one who flies doesn't get new points. Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2010, 07:11:12 PM
If I book a flight to Israel on Continental using ANA points will I get Continental EQMs?
Wishful thinking  ;D
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: njmacman on October 24, 2010, 09:45:37 PM
If I use my AMEX card to buy amex gift cards can I use these cards to pay off other credit cards that are not AMEX? Will vendors take them? Trying to make $10,000 purchases for the 50,000 + 10,000 points. Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AsherO on October 24, 2010, 11:47:21 PM
If I use my AMEX card to buy amex gift cards can I use these cards to pay off other credit cards that are not AMEX? Will vendors take them? Trying to make $10,000 purchases for the 50,000 + 10,000 points. Thanks.

Absolutely not.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on October 26, 2010, 12:10:47 AM
Im not having any luck getting CO to sell me a simple CLE-EWR-FRA-BKK-SYD-BKK-FRA-EWR-CLE itinerary.
Has anyone here actually gotten CO to book a ticket to Australia via Europle and Asia?
Bump.
Anyone figured this out or know someone who managed to book it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on October 26, 2010, 02:09:07 AM
Trying to get a couple business class tickets for my grandparents, MEL-TLV.
So far I've got,
OUTBOUND:
12/19, TG462 MEL-BKK, 23:00-4:10+1
12/20, TG920 BKK-FRA, 13:15-19:05
12/20, LH690 FRA-TLV, 22:25-03:25+1
INBOUND:
12/27, LX 257 TLV-ZRH, 5:30-8:50
MISSING
12/28, TG461 BKK-MEL, 8:10-21:20

Any tips on how to fill the gap? I've checked the basics (FRA, MUC, IST etc.) but with no luck.
Any ideas of which routes may open up?
Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on October 26, 2010, 11:23:26 PM
Trying to get a couple business class tickets for my grandparents, MEL-TLV.
So far I've got,
OUTBOUND:
12/19, TG462 MEL-BKK, 23:00-4:10+1
12/20, TG920 BKK-FRA, 13:15-19:05
12/20, LH690 FRA-TLV, 22:25-03:25+1
INBOUND:
12/27, LX 257 TLV-ZRH, 5:30-8:50
MISSING
12/28, TG461 BKK-MEL, 8:10-21:20

Any tips on how to fill the gap? I've checked the basics (FRA, MUC, IST etc.) but with no luck.
Any ideas of which routes may open up?
Thanks for any help.

OK, This may be a little crazy but after A LOT of searching I was able to peace this together. Although I am not sure if your Grandparents will appreciate it  ;D

Tel Aviv
05:30 (12-26)
Zurich
08:50 (12-26)
LX 257

ZRH 12:40 (12-26)
IST  16:30 (12-26)
LX 1804

IST 23:40 (12-26)
PVG 16:05 (12-27)
TK 26


PVG
19:15 (12-27)
MEL
09:00 (12-28)
CA 177
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Deal Guy on October 26, 2010, 11:26:29 PM
No need to merge. You can hold a ticket under one account and ticket with miles from another...
How exactly? How will they allow someone else's miles to come and take away a reservation that person A already has on hold?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mikeoracle on October 26, 2010, 11:29:05 PM
How exactly? How will they allow someone else's miles to come and take away a reservation that person A already has on hold?
Probably just call up and say I have the following on hold under my account but the points didnt come through on time please ticket booking# xxx using the following account (friends/relative's...) which the account holder may need to verify.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Deal Guy on October 26, 2010, 11:45:56 PM
Probably just call up and say I have the following on hold under my account but the points didnt come through on time please ticket booking# xxx using the following account (friends/relative's...) which the account holder may need to verify.
True. But the truth is that every time that a ticket is booked in someone else's name they have a ch'shash that it was sold or bartered, but they are forced to usually go along with it. But in this case, wouldn't it be slightly more suspicious? After all, I was not going to get the GIFT from person B at the beginning, and only now that my miles didn't work out will suddenly person B appear and GIFT it to me. Doesn't it set off a little more scrutiny?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2010, 11:50:43 PM
Trying to get a couple business class tickets for my grandparents, MEL-TLV.
So far I've got,
OUTBOUND:
12/19, TG462 MEL-BKK, 23:00-4:10+1
12/20, TG920 BKK-FRA, 13:15-19:05
12/20, LH690 FRA-TLV, 22:25-03:25+1
INBOUND:
12/27, LX 257 TLV-ZRH, 5:30-8:50
MISSING
12/28, TG461 BKK-MEL, 8:10-21:20

Any tips on how to fill the gap? I've checked the basics (FRA, MUC, IST etc.) but with no luck.
Any ideas of which routes may open up?
Thanks for any help.
If your dates are little flexible try CDG-BKK.
The CDG-BKK route is usually operated on a dry-leased plane from Jet Airways, so it should be great!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on November 16, 2010, 10:59:05 AM
Not sure if this is the correct place for my question.

I am trying to book a one way in first class from ORD-LAS on 12/26.

CO shows 2 "saverpass" routings available (on US) with a stop in CLT. CO doesn't allow for on-way bookings.
US does not show ANY availability on 12/26 at all.
UA doesnt show any availability either at all. Even if i look at the regular award availabilty (as in 50k for each leg) there is no routing showing through CLT.

I called both US and UA and they are able to find the availability on the phone. Is it possible that UA only allows one-way award bookings on their own metal to be made on United.com and one must call in to book a one-way award on a partner?

The only one of the 3 that does one-way awards is UA and they told me i have to pay $25 per person for booking it on the phone. How does that make sense if they wont allow me to book it online because the availability doesn't come up? Is there any way around it?

Even if i pretend to book a this US flight as a RT ticket on united.com, the availability wont show up.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2010, 11:59:35 AM
I called both US and UA and they are able to find the availability on the phone. Is it possible that UA only allows one-way award bookings on their own metal to be made on United.com and one must call in to book a one-way award on a partner?
Yes, one-way *A is only bookable on the phone with UA, so you'll pay the fee unless you get a very nice sepervisor.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on November 16, 2010, 12:01:04 PM
Yes, one-way *A is only bookable on the phone with UA, so you'll pay the fee unless you get a very nice sepervisor.
Thanks!

Does the availability issue seem strange? As to why CO would show a US flight available online while US themselves dont show it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2010, 12:03:33 PM
Thanks!

Does the availability issue seem strange? As to why CO would show a US flight available online while US themselves dont show it?
Not strange at all, CO.com>US.com
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on November 17, 2010, 12:11:39 PM
Yes, one-way *A is only bookable on the phone with UA, so you'll pay the fee unless you get a very nice sepervisor.

Didnt even need a supervisor. Called back to book it and she said there would be a $25 fee. So i replied (as if she made a mistake) that there is no fee because this flight was not book-able online. She put me on hold for a minute, came back and said the fee is waived.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Eli on November 23, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
Can I book one way awards on a star alliance carrier on united's website or must it be over the phone?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on November 23, 2010, 12:43:22 PM
Can I book one way awards on a star alliance carrier on united's website or must it be over the phone?

Must be booked over the phone. They will try and tack on the $25 phone fee. I managed to get it waived without even speaking to a supervisor.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Good Credit on January 03, 2011, 06:32:11 PM
Cant use Ana "Star Alliance Search" its in Gray dosent let me press it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2011, 07:43:28 PM
Cant use Ana "Star Alliance Search" its in Gray dosent let me press it?
1st of all please don't double post.
2nd of all you need to use the workarounds.  Look for links in the OP.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Aben on January 23, 2011, 07:40:36 AM
Wandering if someone can help I tried a couple of searches but not as good as you guys and not so familiar.
I have lots of starwood, AA, Delta and MR points I need help booking a ticket from TLV to NYC or Philly for Pesach
my dates are Apr. 4,5,6,7 or the following week 10,11,12,13 returning May 3,4, possibly the 5th (depending on time of arrival)
for 2 Adults, 1 child and a infant.
Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KVS on January 23, 2011, 07:55:19 PM
Wandering if someone can help I tried a couple of searches but not as good as you guys and not so familiar.
I have lots of starwood, AA, Delta and MR points I need help booking a ticket from TLV to NYC or Philly for Pesach
my dates are Apr. 4,5,6,7 or the following week 10,11,12,13 returning May 3,4, possibly the 5th (depending on time of arrival)
for 2 Adults, 1 child and a infant.
Thanks

Assuming this would be in Economy and it's a lap infant, a quick SkyTeam search shows outbound award availability for the 4th, but only a long connection + arrival on the 6th on the return:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
Code: [Select]
TLV  Tel Aviv Metro / Tel Aviv Ben Gurion Intl IL = TLV SDV [LLBG]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
MON  04 Apr 2011 | 3 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
OK         287     TLV   05:05     PRG   09:15              YS+
 -> DL     211     PRG   11:55     JFK   15:05
KL         462     TLV   05:05     AMS   09:00              YA+
 -> KL     641     AMS   13:25     JFK   15:30
KL         462     TLV   05:05     AMS   09:00              YA+ CS+
 -> KL     643     AMS   17:45     JFK   19:50
AF         2221    TLV   08:10     CDG   12:10              YA+ WA+
 -> AF     18      CDG   13:30     EWR   15:45
AF         2221    TLV   08:10     CDG   12:10              YA+
 -> AF     6       CDG   13:35     JFK   15:50
AF         2221    TLV   08:10     CDG   12:10              YA+ WA+
 -> AF     10      CDG   16:35     JFK   18:40
AF         2221    TLV   08:10     CDG   12:10              YA+ WA+
 -> AF     8       CDG   19:10     JFK   21:20
AF         1621    TLV   17:15     CDG   21:15              YA+ WA+
 -> AF     22      CDG   08:25 +1  JFK   10:30 +1
AF         1621    TLV   17:15     CDG   21:15              YA+ WA+
 -> AF     12      CDG   10:30 +1  JFK   12:30 +1

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
Code: [Select]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
PRG  Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR]
WED  04 May 2011 | 3 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
DL         210     JFK   19:05     PRG   10:00 +1           YS+
AF         23      JFK   16:40     CDG   06:00 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     1382    CDG   07:15 +1  PRG   08:50 +1
AF         23      JFK   16:40     CDG   06:00 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     1982    CDG   13:10 +1  PRG   14:45 +1
AF         23      JFK   16:40     CDG   06:00 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     2482    CDG   18:15 +1  PRG   19:50 +1
AF         23      JFK   16:40     CDG   06:00 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4900    CDG   09:55 +1  PRG   11:40 +1
AF         23      JFK   16:40     CDG   06:00 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4902    CDG   15:45 +1  PRG   17:35 +1
AF         23      JFK   16:40     CDG   06:00 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4906    CDG   19:10 +1  PRG   20:50 +1
AF         23      JFK   16:40     CDG   06:00 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4904    CDG   20:45 +1  PRG   22:30 +1
KL         642     JFK   18:00     AMS   07:30 +1           YA+
 -> KL     1355    AMS   11:40 +1  PRG   13:15 +1
KL         642     JFK   18:00     AMS   07:30 +1           YA+
 -> KL     1357    AMS   17:10 +1  PRG   18:40 +1
AF         17      JFK   18:15     CDG   07:30 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     1982    CDG   13:10 +1  PRG   14:45 +1
AF         17      JFK   18:15     CDG   07:30 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     2482    CDG   18:15 +1  PRG   19:50 +1
AF         17      JFK   18:15     CDG   07:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4900    CDG   09:55 +1  PRG   11:40 +1
AF         17      JFK   18:15     CDG   07:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4902    CDG   15:45 +1  PRG   17:35 +1
AF         17      JFK   18:15     CDG   07:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4906    CDG   19:10 +1  PRG   20:50 +1
AF         17      JFK   18:15     CDG   07:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4904    CDG   20:45 +1  PRG   22:30 +1
AF         19      EWR   19:05     CDG   08:30 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     1982    CDG   13:10 +1  PRG   14:45 +1
AF         19      EWR   19:05     CDG   08:30 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     2482    CDG   18:15 +1  PRG   19:50 +1
AF         19      EWR   19:05     CDG   08:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4900    CDG   09:55 +1  PRG   11:40 +1
AF         19      EWR   19:05     CDG   08:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4902    CDG   15:45 +1  PRG   17:35 +1
AF         19      EWR   19:05     CDG   08:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4906    CDG   19:10 +1  PRG   20:50 +1
AF         19      EWR   19:05     CDG   08:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4904    CDG   20:45 +1  PRG   22:30 +1
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:35 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     1982    CDG   13:10 +1  PRG   14:45 +1
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:35 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     2482    CDG   18:15 +1  PRG   19:50 +1
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:35 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4900    CDG   09:55 +1  PRG   11:40 +1
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:35 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4902    CDG   15:45 +1  PRG   17:35 +1
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:35 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4906    CDG   19:10 +1  PRG   20:50 +1
AF         7       JFK   19:15     CDG   08:35 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4904    CDG   20:45 +1  PRG   22:30 +1
AF         11      JFK   21:50     CDG   11:05 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     1982    CDG   13:10 +1  PRG   14:45 +1
AF         11      JFK   21:50     CDG   11:05 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     2482    CDG   18:15 +1  PRG   19:50 +1
AF         11      JFK   21:50     CDG   11:05 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4902    CDG   15:45 +1  PRG   17:35 +1
AF         11      JFK   21:50     CDG   11:05 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4906    CDG   19:10 +1  PRG   20:50 +1
AF         11      JFK   21:50     CDG   11:05 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4904    CDG   20:45 +1  PRG   22:30 +1
KL         644     JFK   22:50     AMS   12:10 +1           YA+
 -> KL     1357    AMS   17:10 +1  PRG   18:40 +1
AF         9       JFK   23:20     CDG   12:30 +1           YA+ WS+
 -> AF     2482    CDG   18:15 +1  PRG   19:50 +1
AF         9       JFK   23:20     CDG   12:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4902    CDG   15:45 +1  PRG   17:35 +1
AF         9       JFK   23:20     CDG   12:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4906    CDG   19:10 +1  PRG   20:50 +1
AF         9       JFK   23:20     CDG   12:30 +1           YA+
 -> AF     4904    CDG   20:45 +1  PRG   22:30 +1

[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF] (http://www.KVSTool.com/?R)
Code: [Select]
PRG  Prague Ruzyne CZ [LKPR]
TLV  Tel Aviv Metro / Tel Aviv Ben Gurion Intl IL = TLV SDV [LLBG]
THU  05 May 2011 | 3 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
OK         286     PRG   23:55     TLV   04:35 +1           YS+ CS+
AF         4901    PRG   07:15     CDG   09:05              YA+
 -> AF     1620    CDG   10:35     TLV   16:00
AF         4901    PRG   07:15     CDG   09:05              YA+
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
OK         758     PRG   07:15     CDG   09:05              YS+ CS+
 -> AF     1620    CDG   10:35     TLV   16:00
AF         4901    PRG   07:15     CDG   09:05              YA+ CA+
 -> AF     1888    CDG   10:25     BUH   14:15
 -> RO     151     BUH   16:25     TLV   19:00
AF         4901    PRG   07:15     CDG   09:05              YA+ CA+
 -> AF     2356    CDG   12:25     BUH   16:15
 -> RO     153     BUH   20:55     TLV   23:30
AF         4901    PRG   07:15     CDG   09:05              YA+ CA+
 -> AF     1888    CDG   10:25     BUH   14:15
 -> RO     153     BUH   20:55     TLV   23:30
KL         1352    PRG   09:25     AMS   11:00              YS+
 -> KL     1375    AMS   12:35     BUH   16:20
 -> RO     153     BUH   20:55     TLV   23:30
KL         1352    PRG   09:25     AMS   11:00              YA+
 -> KL     461     AMS   21:05     TLV   02:30 +1
KL         1352    PRG   09:25     AMS   11:00              YS+
 -> AF     1741    AMS   15:20     CDG   16:35
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
KL         1352    PRG   09:25     AMS   11:00              YS+
 -> AF     1641    AMS   13:55     CDG   15:10
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
KL         1352    PRG   09:25     AMS   11:00              YS+
 -> KL     1233    AMS   12:30     CDG   13:45
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
AF         1383    PRG   10:05     CDG   11:50              YS+ CS+
 -> AF     2488    CDG   15:25     BUH   19:15
 -> RO     153     BUH   20:55     TLV   23:30
AF         1383    PRG   10:05     CDG   11:50              YA+ CS+
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
AF         1383    PRG   10:05     CDG   11:50              YA+ CS+
 -> AF     2456    CDG   16:20     BUH   20:10
 -> RO     153     BUH   20:55     TLV   23:30
AF         1383    PRG   10:05     CDG   11:50              CS+
 -> AF     2104    CDG   15:25     FCO   17:30
 -> AZ     810     FCO   22:00     TLV   02:15 +1
OK         802     PRG   11:40     BUH   14:30              YS+ CS+
 -> RO     151     BUH   16:25     TLV   19:00
OK         802     PRG   11:40     BUH   14:30              YS+ CS+
 -> RO     153     BUH   20:55     TLV   23:30
AF         4903    PRG   13:05     CDG   14:55              YA+
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
AF         4903    PRG   13:05     CDG   14:55              YA+ CA+
 -> AF     2456    CDG   16:20     BUH   20:10
 -> RO     153     BUH   20:55     TLV   23:30
OK         760     PRG   13:05     CDG   14:55              CS+
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
AF         4903    PRG   13:05     CDG   14:55              YA+
 -> AF     2240    CDG   18:25     AMS   19:40
 -> KL     461     AMS   21:05     TLV   02:30 +1
AF         4903    PRG   13:05     CDG   14:55              YA+
 -> AF     2040    CDG   16:20     AMS   17:35
 -> KL     461     AMS   21:05     TLV   02:30 +1
KL         1356    PRG   14:00     AMS   15:35              YA+
 -> KL     461     AMS   21:05     TLV   02:30 +1
AF         1983    PRG   15:40     CDG   17:25              YA+ CS+
 -> AF     2220    CDG   18:45     TLV   00:10 +1
AF         1983    PRG   15:40     CDG   17:25              YS+ CS+
 -> AF     2240    CDG   18:25     AMS   19:40
 -> KL     461     AMS   21:05     TLV   02:30 +1
AF         4905    PRG   18:10     CDG   19:55              YA+
 -> AF     1620    CDG   10:35 +1  TLV   16:00 +1
AF         2483    PRG   20:35     CDG   22:20              YA+ CS+
 -> AF     1620    CDG   10:35 +1  TLV   16:00 +1
OK         804     PRG   21:35     BUH   00:25 +1           YS+ CS+
 -> RO     155     BUH   06:00 +1  TLV   08:35 +1
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 05, 2011, 10:46:55 PM
before anyone attacks me   i just wanna say that i tried searching myself- but im not great at this and can def use assistance--

looking for TLV-NYC    March 30 - returning May 4   (dates are flexible by a day or day)

-long stop over is OK (if theres something to do there-lol)
-(if theres cheap paying fares would consider too)


THANX!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on February 06, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
before anyone attacks me   i just wanna say that i tried searching myself- but im not great at this and can def use assistance--

looking for TLV-NYC    March 30 - returning May 4   (dates are flexible by a day or day)

-long stop over is OK (if theres something to do there-lol)
-(if theres cheap paying fares would consider too)


THANX!

How many seats? Economy, Business or First?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 06, 2011, 01:13:58 AM
1 (maybe 2) economy

sorry  thanx! 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on February 06, 2011, 01:20:14 AM
If you want to go Business:

Wed 30/3 LH691, TLV-FRA, 4:30-8:55
Wed 30/3 LH400, FRA-JFK, 10:25-12:45

Wed 5/4 LH405, EWR-TLV, 17:50-7:25+1 day
Thurs 5/5 LH686, FRA-TLV, 10:15-15:00

Also similar flights available in Economy or First...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on February 06, 2011, 01:29:18 AM
If you want to go Business:

Wed 30/3 LH691, TLV-FRA, 4:30-8:55
Wed 30/3 LH400, FRA-JFK, 10:25-12:45

Wed 5/4 LH405, EWR-TLV, 17:50-7:25+1 day
Thurs 5/5 LH686, FRA-TLV, 10:15-15:00

Also similar flights available in Economy or First...
Forget that, didn't notice your post...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 06, 2011, 01:52:45 AM
If you want to go Business:

Wed 30/3 LH691, TLV-FRA, 4:30-8:55
Wed 30/3 LH400, FRA-JFK, 10:25-12:45

Wed 5/4 LH405, EWR-TLV, 17:50-7:25+1 day
Thurs 5/5 LH686, FRA-TLV, 10:15-15:00

Also similar flights available in Economy or First...

thanx so much   where u find these flights?    book thru which airline? how many miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jay the PRESIDENT on February 06, 2011, 11:56:48 PM
any other options?  tnx
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 15, 2011, 02:37:34 PM
Does ANA every run specials or are economy to Israel always 60k and Biz always 90k?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2011, 02:41:47 PM
economy to Israel always 60k and Biz always 90k
+1
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 15, 2011, 03:18:39 PM
what does +1 mean?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 18, 2011, 09:08:33 AM
I searched ANA and all star alliance partners...I dont mind stopover or economy seats..
but I cant find what you guys did?!

I need ORD to TLV for 8 or 9 nights anytime btwn 6/26 and 7/13

Thanks for anyone that can help
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2011, 11:05:30 AM
I searched ANA and all star alliance partners...I dont mind stopover or economy seats..
but I cant find what you guys did?!

I need ORD to TLV for 8 or 9 nights anytime btwn 6/26 and 7/13

Thanks for anyone that can help


-By default only nonstop flights are shown, for this route the Continental flights from EWR to TLV are shown.
Click "connecting flights" to display more flights.
Each leg will have:
- Which means that the class selected doesn't exist
x Which means awards are not available
OK Which means awards are available

-Click on the arrows above the flights to go back or more forward a day.
-Click "search again" to change the dates.

-ANA search is far from exhaustive, it does not search all possibilities.  To really search all options do a regular fare search on Orbitz and find all of the Star Alliance options.  Then enter in each leg separately into ANA.
For example search for JFK-IST and then IST-TLV to go on Turkish via Istanbul, or JFK-MUC and then MUC-TLV to go on Lufthansa via Munich, etc.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 18, 2011, 12:23:57 PM
Is "connecting flights" on the ANA or CO page?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 18, 2011, 12:38:26 PM
sorry..I got it...took me a second
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 18, 2011, 12:43:43 PM
Using EWR doesnt help me bc I am starting in ORD..and for ORD it does show the "connecting flights" option....If it does say "ok"
do I need to call ANA or the airline?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: matzif4u on February 25, 2011, 04:19:22 AM
i created a ANA account but I still cant search for star alliance flights I imagine cuz no point is there a way to still get around this? thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 25, 2011, 07:17:45 AM
i created a ANA account but I still cant search for star alliance flights I imagine cuz no point is there a way to still get around this? thanks
read the OP
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2011, 08:48:57 AM
read the OP
Heh, guess this means you're no longer a n00b.
Or that you've met up with our favorite DDF lurker, craz (aka steve2 (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=494))
<Wave>
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 25, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
right?...what is with Craz? man o man...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2011, 09:19:15 AM
His name is steve2 (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=494) on DDF.
Hasn't posted in a while, but he's still #4 on the top-posters list: http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?action=stats
Feel free to peruse his ahavas-yisroel filled posts here: http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=494
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: FlyFirst on March 10, 2011, 04:21:19 PM
Hi everyone, i'm new here...

Trying to search for star alliance partners from China to New Zealand, I created an account by ANA but still can't search, is there any other option except Continental??
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on March 10, 2011, 05:43:34 PM
Hi everyone, i'm new here...

Trying to search for star alliance partners from China to New Zealand, I created an account by ANA but still can't search, is there any other option except Continental??
Aeroplan.
See the first post of this thread for ANA workaround.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: FlyFirst on March 11, 2011, 02:27:06 PM
On Aeroplans web site they show only AC flights,
am I wrong ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on March 11, 2011, 02:39:41 PM
am I wrong ?
Yes
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: FlyFirst on March 11, 2011, 02:43:10 PM
Thanks Dan.
I'll try to figure out how to search on aeroplan.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mayer on March 23, 2011, 11:26:17 PM
Aeroplan is the most awesome website on mileage deals,  example i am going from jfk to pvg (china) and i wanted a stop in poland, so the way goes somewaht like this

 to FRA, FRA to WAW, WAW to ZRH, ZRH to PVG,  Then the way back its from PVG to ORD, and then to LGA

And everything First class, and for only 120,000 miles,   

Its just interesting how aeroplan has better deals then united & all other star alliance members itself

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Bp on March 23, 2011, 11:57:53 PM
@AsherO:
Poland! maby he is going to lizensk,
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AsherO on March 23, 2011, 11:59:49 PM
@AsherO:
Poland! maby he is going to lizensk,

Whoops. :D
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mayer on March 24, 2011, 11:34:05 PM
Bingo, yeah lizensk is the deal,
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 20, 2011, 07:07:09 PM
@mayer, pls reread your post, I believe you typed a mistake in your routing.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 24, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
Is it possible to ever find first class availability on partner airlines on CO.com? Say im looking to go from JFK to LHR or anywhere in Europe.

i always see business class avail. I sat on hold with CO last night for 30 minutes and had them look for me. They told me that when its available, it can be found online.
Anyone know more on this topic?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2011, 12:33:26 PM
Is it possible to ever find first class availability on partner airlines on CO.com?
No.
AC/ANA are your best bets for F.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on April 30, 2011, 11:31:13 PM
Which *A sites show LX availability?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2011, 11:40:46 PM
Which *A sites show LX availability?
ANA, Aeroplan, and Lufthansa.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 01, 2011, 07:32:15 AM
ANA, Aeroplan, and Lufthansa.
The availability you see on LH is only for miles & More redemptions, not partner redemptions.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2011, 11:05:00 AM
The availability you see on LH is only for miles & More redemptions, not partner redemptions.
LX is part of miles and more.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on May 01, 2011, 11:35:46 AM
LX is part of miles and more.
He mean that you wont necessarily be able to redeem with non-MM *A miles,
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2011, 11:39:19 AM
He mean that you wont necessarily be able to redeem with non-MM *A miles,
Gotcha.
How big is the difference in availability?

Interestingly I've been finding some LH J/F availability on the CO preview site that ANA/KVS doesn't come up with.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 01, 2011, 02:25:04 PM

Interestingly I've been finding some LH J/F availability on the CO preview site that ANA/KVS doesn't come up with.

Does it come up on aeroplan?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 02, 2011, 03:04:36 PM
Gotcha.
How big is the difference in availability?

Interestingly I've been finding some LH J/F availability on the CO preview site that ANA/KVS doesn't come up with.
Take for example JFK-ZRH premium class, the difference is tremendous. Its going to be when there are only a few seats in a whole year that are available at one time to partners...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2011, 03:40:42 PM
In general, how hard is it to snag a *A F seat on a trip to TLV? Seems like both LH and LX have almost no availability in F for any of the flights to/from LAX. Is that because there is only one flight a day to FRA (I'd rather not go through MUC because I want the F Terminal if possible) and ZRH on each airline?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 08, 2011, 06:11:25 PM
In general, how hard is it to snag a *A F seat on a trip to TLV? Seems like both LH and LX have almost no availability in F for any of the flights to/from LAX. Is that because there is only one flight a day to FRA (I'd rather not go through MUC because I want the F Terminal if possible) and ZRH on each airline?
From LAX you're gonna have a real hard time.
If you get Miles&More miles, the availability is better..
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 08, 2011, 06:15:25 PM
don't search from lax...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2011, 06:27:18 PM
don't search from lax...

I tried from SFO also and it wasn't much better. Any suggestions as to where to search from?

From LAX you're gonna have a real hard time.
If you get Miles&More miles, the availability is better..

Problem is I don't have miles in my Miles and More account, so it is still only temporary and won't allow me to do a search.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 08, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
I was actually going to say anywhere but lax and sfo...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 08, 2011, 07:33:18 PM
I tried from SFO also and it wasn't much better. Any suggestions as to where to search from?

Problem is I don't have miles in my Miles and More account, so it is still only temporary and won't allow me to do a search.
ExpertFlyer searches M&M availability.
Just be prepared to pay the award rates and the fuel surcharges...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2011, 07:34:22 PM
I was actually going to say anywhere but lax and sfo...

Are there any other good west coast locations to search from (LAS maybe?)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2011, 07:43:33 PM
Are there any other good west coast locations to search from (LAS maybe?)

Seems like DEN has some better options.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 08, 2011, 07:50:11 PM
Are there any other good west coast locations to search from (LAS maybe?)
Do you want west coast for the short connection flight or the long flight in F?

Theres SEA. Otherwise theres tons of gateways, ATL, BOS, CLT, ORD, DFW, DTW, DEN, IAH, MIA, MCO, EWR, JFK, IAD, PHL. Then there is YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2011, 07:51:26 PM
Do you want west coast for the short connection flight or the long flight in F?

Theres SEA. Otherwise theres tons of gateways, ATL, BOS, CLT, ORD, DFW, DTW, DEN, IAH, MIA, MCO, EWR, JFK, IAD, PHL. Then there is YYZ, YVR, YUL, YYC.

I'm starting in LAX so I'd rather a short flight somewhere nearby (and cheaper if I need to pay $$ for it) and then as long as possible for the long-haul.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 15, 2011, 04:46:04 AM
M&M will cost you a bomb on miles and taxes.
I would trade in any day a flight via FRA (with the FCT) for the following:
LX, top seats/beds, love the airport,
LH MUC as the airport gives you more chashivus (fra is over crowded with HONs and First pax), as well a bigger chance ending in a limo vs van, and finally the aircrafts have less First seats meaning better treatment.

And off course FRA has the most taxes, and the longest walks + the rudest people.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 15, 2011, 05:34:11 AM
I have an issue that has been driving crazy for a while.

When calling US Airways to book an award, I obviously made my homework already, but very often flight that are available they won't find available...

In the same spirit, it seems to push forward availability on CA vs LH and on LH vs LX, even if that means with a stopover vs direct.

What can be done about it.

Note, some flights that are departing just past midnight, you need to ask them to look on the previous day to see its availability...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2011, 02:25:19 PM
There were rumors that US was doing StarNet blocking...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 06:36:01 PM
It was a little on and off.

More likely the agent/s don't know what they're doing.
There were rumors that US was doing StarNet blocking...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 15, 2011, 06:47:41 PM
Any way around it? Sometimes I suggest a different routing that suddenly will show as available the leg that I'm interested in.

Then they contact texhnical support to allow me to book.

Often I don't find another route that shows it available le by them, which is a royal pain in the barto...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on May 18, 2011, 03:30:29 AM
And the problem keeps on repeating itself...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 11:06:02 AM
And the problem keeps on repeating itself...
If they are Starnet blocking then that would make sense.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on May 18, 2011, 11:08:19 AM
If they are Starnet blocking then that would make sense.
can i get an explanation of what starnet blocking is
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on May 18, 2011, 03:01:15 PM
can i get an explanation of what starnet blocking is
It's pretty simple. Airlines release award seats for all their partners. Some airlines decide to block those seats.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on May 18, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
It's pretty simple. Airlines release award seats for all their partners. Some airlines decide to block those seats.
for what reason
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AsherO on May 18, 2011, 03:35:30 PM
for what reason

If they block partner seats they hope you'll redeem with them. Partner redemptions cost them more.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dunno on June 10, 2011, 07:54:11 PM
Hi, first time posting.

As I understood it from Dan, I could book an award ticket on Continental from US to Australia via Asia, for the same miles as direct US-Aus.

However, when I called today, the agent told me in no uncertain terms that this was not possible, and never has been.

Is she incorrect, or am I missing something here?

Thanks.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2011, 08:05:14 PM
You can definitely book US to Australia via Asia with CO miles.  Just call back.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dunno on June 12, 2011, 04:24:23 PM
Yep, I called back and there was no problem. I have no idea why the first agent wasn't able to help me.

Being new to the world of Continental, I found it interesting that because I had the requisite miles to make the reservation, I could NOT place a 3-day hold, whereas if I didn't have enough miles, I could place a hold.

I like to place a hold wherever possible (in case any changes pop up etc), so I will simply transfer some miles back to my UA account, make a reservation, place it on hold, and then shift the miles back when I want to confirm the reservation.

IIRC correctly, UA allows 3-day holds regardless. Any idea why CO does not?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: YOSEF on June 12, 2011, 04:34:26 PM
UA actually allows a hold for *A flights ONLY if there are enough miles in the account.

They also claim that you only have until midnight, or the *A partner can take the seat back.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dunno on June 12, 2011, 04:49:40 PM
Quote
UA actually allows a hold for *A flights ONLY if there are enough miles in the account.
That just makes CO's inverse policy seem all the more stranger.

I've never lost a UA reservation I've placed on hold, so I don't know how worried one need be of the midnight rule.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 13, 2011, 04:49:42 AM
Open a new CO acc, and put on hold.

I've had several times that parts of tix on hold by CO were lost.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dunno on June 13, 2011, 10:47:06 PM
Thanks.

Where can I find which places in Asia I can go through as part of this US-Aus reward ticket?

I know Bangkok is possible, but I can't find a simple list anywhere.

(It came out 65K for US-Asia-Aus RT, whereas it would be 80K for US-Aus RT. What gives?)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 14, 2011, 05:35:40 AM
Thanks.

Where can I find which places in Asia I can go through as part of this US-Aus reward ticket?

I know Bangkok is possible, but I can't find a simple list anywhere.

(It came out 65K for US-Asia-Aus RT, whereas it would be 80K for US-Aus RT. What gives?)
There is no list, its up to your imagination and the mode of the agent.
How about something like this (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lax-nrt-pek-hkg-bkk-sin-syd)? ;)
If they quoted 65k, someone has a terrible geography (its amazing how many airline agents don't know which continents countries/cities are in) or its a mistake.
Congrats if you got that price! If you didn't ticket yet, don't rely on actually getting that price...

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mclovin on June 14, 2011, 04:43:14 PM
Open a new CO acc, and put on hold.
you can book a ticket that was on hold from a diff account?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 14, 2011, 08:44:05 PM
Yes, you can, actually, when logged in, and opening a reservation made with another acc (using locator and name), there is an option to save to your profile.
Not sure how well that works though, but over the phone, its no problem.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dunno on June 15, 2011, 06:01:02 PM
There is no list, its up to your imagination and the mode of the agent.
How about something like this (http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lax-nrt-pek-hkg-bkk-sin-syd)? ;)
If they quoted 65k, someone has a terrible geography (its amazing how many airline agents don't know which continents countries/cities are in) or its a mistake.
Congrats if you got that price! If you didn't ticket yet, don't rely on actually getting that price...

Thanks; I had figured most of those cities would be included.

I did ticket it already (wanted do it before 6/15 and United's charming $150 change fee), and indeed only 65K were used.

In the course of making the ticket, I called CO several times spoke to 3 different agents. One quoted 80K, but the other two both told me 65K. Odd.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 15, 2011, 07:17:12 PM
Thanks; I had figured most of those cities would be included.

I did ticket it already (wanted do it before 6/15 and United's charming $150 change fee), and indeed only 65K were used.

In the course of making the ticket, I called CO several times spoke to 3 different agents. One quoted 80K, but the other two both told me 65K. Odd.
That's airline agents for you...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 17, 2011, 09:59:43 PM
Just reading through this and seems like a pretty basic tip is missing.
ANA doesn't show availability within 7 days of flights.
However, it will still show you the return flights.

So to work around, work backwards.
Say you want ro fly from TLV to ZRH on June 19 and today is June 17.
Type in ZRH-TLV dep. June 18 returning June 19.
It will tell you that its within 7 days so no availability but scroll down to the return and there it is....

Perhaps this belongs in the OP?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mb on June 20, 2011, 10:13:42 PM
I searched on ANA to book a flight from EWR-TLV from 1/10/12 to 1/17/12.  I was able to make an itinerary on ANAs award search site for 90,000 miles TOTAL in "Business" class with direct flights both ways on the new 777s!  Now, I know Continental's 777s have BusinessFirst now and no longer have Business class seats.

BUT, when I call Continental, they keep telling me that this flight is 120,000 miles and I can't book it for 90k.  What to do??

Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on June 20, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
I searched on ANA to book a flight from EWR-TLV from 1/10/12 to 1/17/12.  I was able to make an itinerary on ANAs award search site for 90,000 miles TOTAL in "Business" class with direct flights both ways on the new 777s!  Now, I know Continental's 777s have BusinessFirst now and no longer have Business class seats.

BUT, when I call Continental, they keep telling me that this flight is 120,000 miles and I can't book it for 90k.  What to do??

Thanks!
90k would be ANA miles not continental miles they have different rates
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 20, 2011, 10:17:33 PM
90k would be LAN miles not continental miles they have different rates
LAN? You mean ANA, no?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on June 20, 2011, 10:18:15 PM
LAN? You mean ANA, no?
corrected my bad lol
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mb on June 21, 2011, 07:12:01 AM
@myb821

Thanks for the quick response!

Can I transfer Amex MRs to ANA 1:1? Or only star points?

If not, would you agree that 120k CO miles to israel roundtrip, direct both ways, in continental businessfirst, is the best option I will find?

Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 21, 2011, 10:21:05 AM
@myb821

Thanks for the quick response!

Can I transfer Amex MRs to ANA 1:1? Or only star points?

If not, would you agree that 120k CO miles to israel roundtrip, direct both ways, in continental businessfirst, is the best option I will find?

Thanks
Amex MR do transfer to ANA. Usually post 2 days after transfer.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: kivabb on June 23, 2011, 04:58:32 PM
If Continental shows availability for award, I can use US Air miles to book through US Air even though it's same route Continental flies? And vice versa?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 05:03:08 PM
If Continental shows availability for award, I can use US Air miles to book through US Air even though it's same route Continental flies? And vice versa?
Technically yes, but sometimes a Continental flight will show as available on CO.com, but wont be available to partners (ie US). For best availability results you can use the ANA method in the first post of this thread
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 05:08:59 PM
Technically yes, but sometimes a Continental flight will show as available on CO.com, but wont be available to partners (ie US). For best availability results you can use the ANA method in the first post of this thread
US might do starnet blocking, but why should it make a difference if the flight is showing on CO or ANA.  US can block any flight if they feel like it.
Now if you are CO elite, then you may see CO availability that partners can't book into.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 05:12:11 PM
US might do starnet blocking, but why should it make a difference if the flight is showing on CO or ANA.  US can block any flight if they feel like it.
Now if you are CO elite, then you may see CO availability that partners can't book into.
I recently had many flights that showed up on CO.com non-elite, that did not show on ANA/KVS, and United showed as unavailable
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 05:15:35 PM
I recently had many flights that showed up on CO.com non-elite, that did not show on ANA/KVS, and United showed as unavailable
Please post an example.  Also just because ANA doesn't see it doesn't mean an agent couldn't book it.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 05:28:36 PM
Please post an example.  Also just because ANA doesn't see it doesn't mean an agent couldn't book it.
Can't find any now. At the time I assumed it was normal. The UA agents told me they couldn't book it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2011, 05:29:45 PM
Can't find any now. At the time I assumed it was normal. The UA agents told me they couldn't book it
UA and US do starnet blocking.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 05:38:26 PM
UA and US do starnet blocking.
Could UA block a CO route they dont fly?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 23, 2011, 06:12:02 PM
Could UA block a CO route they dont fly?
Isn't this a mute point now that UA/CO miles can be moved freely between accounts?

Of late, US *net blocking hasn't been nearly as prevalent IME.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 06:15:09 PM
Isn't this a mute point now that UA/CO miles can be moved freely between accounts?

Of late, US *net blocking hasn't been nearly as prevalent IME.

It was a OW before 6/15
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 23, 2011, 06:58:23 PM
It was a OW before 6/15
I highly doubt it.
You saw a seat available with CO and UA couldn't book it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on June 23, 2011, 07:14:17 PM
I highly doubt it.
You saw a seat available with CO and UA couldn't book it?
Ya, and it didn't show on KVS
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on June 23, 2011, 07:29:09 PM
Ya, and it didn't show on KVS
Did you try booking on CO.
Ive seen seats come up on CO.com but when you try booking its not available...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on June 24, 2011, 12:37:34 AM
Did you try booking on CO.
Ive seen seats come up on CO.com but when you try booking its not available...
No, as I said it was a OW, before it was allowed. Now that I know it's unheard of, I'll make a note if it ever happens again
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SPGCont on July 07, 2011, 01:20:16 PM
If I am trying to book a mileage ticket using continental miles and the continental website shows no availability on their partner airlines (Hawaiian Air) yet if I search on the partner airline's website directly (HawaiianAir.com) I see there ARE mileage tickets available though obviously at different mileage rates (HawaiianAir's award rates).

Is there any way for for me to book such a ticket using the continental miles and get the continental mileage award rate?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2011, 01:24:49 PM
If I am trying to book a mileage ticket using continental miles and the continental website shows no availability on their partner airlines (Hawaiian Air) yet if I search on the partner airline's website directly (HawaiianAir.com) I see there ARE mileage tickets available though obviously at different mileage rates (HawaiianAir's award rates).

Is there any way for for me to book such a ticket using the continental miles and get the continental mileage award rate?
If you plan on checking bags you'll be better buying a ticket with a corporate account which gets 2 free bags.
Email me and I can book you on my corp account if you want.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AsherO on July 07, 2011, 01:31:16 PM
If I am trying to book a mileage ticket using continental miles and the continental website shows no availability on their partner airlines (Hawaiian Air) yet if I search on the partner airline's website directly (HawaiianAir.com) I see there ARE mileage tickets available though obviously at different mileage rates (HawaiianAir's award rates).

Is there any way for for me to book such a ticket using the continental miles and get the continental mileage award rate?

I don't think so. It's like being unable to book AA AAnytime awards with BA miles.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2011, 01:32:25 PM
I wouldn't rely on CO.com to search for IslandAir or Hawaiian avaialbility.  Try calling them.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SPGCont on July 07, 2011, 08:16:08 PM
I don't think so. It's like being unable to book AA AAnytime awards with BA miles.

Are you guessing or have you had some experience with this kind of thing? Based on some of dan's posts it would seem that as long as the other airline show award availability at their
lowest level you could use any *alliance miles with its respective airline?

Dan, did I misunderstand your posts?

No disrespect meant.
I'm just wondering if it's worth a shot or a waste of time?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SPGCont on July 07, 2011, 08:16:50 PM
I wouldn't rely on CO.com to search for IslandAir or Hawaiian avaialbility.  Try calling them.

calling continental or Hawaiian?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AsherO on July 08, 2011, 01:32:23 AM
Are you guessing or have you had some experience with this kind of thing? Based on some of dan's posts it would seem that as long as the other airline show award availability at their
lowest level you could use any *alliance miles with its respective airline?

Dan, did I misunderstand your posts?

No disrespect meant.
I'm just wondering if it's worth a shot or a waste of time?

AAnytime are the more expensive AA awards, AA's lower tier is called SAAver.

calling continental or Hawaiian?

You're not relying on CO.com, i.e. CO's website, so instead you're calling CO.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on July 13, 2011, 02:43:26 PM
While not quite *A, CO.com was always great at showing VS availability. It didn't always match Virgins availability, they would hold the last (couple?) seats for their own members.

But now I can't get any VS flights to come up on CO.com

Is it just me, a glitch or is this a sign of times to come, the going away of the partnership?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on September 06, 2011, 12:26:37 AM
Trying to book a continental reward ticket for end of January to Israel in business class. Its showing up online as 150,000 each way. Any ideas to get that for less?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on September 06, 2011, 12:36:48 AM
Trying to book a continental reward ticket for end of January to Israel in business class. Its showing up online as 150,000 each way. Any ideas to get that for less?
If you have to go direct, theres very limited availability on the low level...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 09, 2011, 03:14:54 AM
You could ask a CO elite member to check for you. They have more availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on September 09, 2011, 04:00:18 AM
You could ask a CO elite member to check for you. They have more availability.
Anyone can check.  Just search for a revenue flight and look for XN class for elite coach and O class for plat elite first/businessfirst.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on September 27, 2011, 11:10:26 AM
If I spoke to a continental representative and they told me there is no availability for the date i want with award travel. Do I have any other option?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on September 27, 2011, 11:30:56 AM
If I spoke to a continental representative and they told me there is no availability for the date i want with award travel. Do I have any other option?
Unfortunately not.
That's what sucks so bad about miles.
If you're getting them from a credit card switch to a cash back option.
Even if its a cent (or even less) at least you'll be able to use them...  ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gevaldig on December 12, 2011, 10:52:52 PM
Anyone can check.  Just search for a revenue flight and look for XN class for elite coach and O class for plat elite first/businessfirst.
i also see the 150 each way, and i am having a hard time to understand what Dan wrote any help would be appreciated, TIA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dwkl on December 15, 2011, 02:24:30 PM
If I spoke to a continental representative and they told me there is no availability for the date i want with award travel. Do I have any other option?
as mentioned earlier your best bet wud be to ck thru a plat CO acct as long as theirs seats on plane as a plat they can book it  as an award seat but youll pay the full milage for it 
alternatly try using all NYC airports/phili will give u US AIR
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gevaldig on December 15, 2011, 02:57:34 PM
a plat is only who has a certain # of miles? or if you have the presidential card?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gevaldig on December 28, 2011, 04:27:39 PM
Anyone can check.  Just search for a revenue flight and look for XN class for elite coach and O class for plat elite first/businessfirst.
can someone please explain this answer?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on December 29, 2011, 01:52:05 PM
can someone please explain this answer?
Sure! Which part didn't you understand?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gevaldig on December 29, 2011, 02:47:11 PM
Sure! Which part didn't you understand?

Anyone can check.  Just search for a revenue flight and look for XN class for elite coach and O class for plat elite first/businessfirst.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on December 29, 2011, 03:20:41 PM

Revenue flight is a paid flight.
By the right most box of every flight there is a link that says fare class. Click it and it will list how many seats in each class. If it says XN3 that means there are 3 economy seats available for elite members
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gevaldig on December 29, 2011, 09:12:42 PM
Revenue flight is a paid flight.
By the right most box of every flight there is a link that says fare class. Click it and it will list how many seats in each class. If it says XN3 that means there are 3 economy seats available for elite members
Thanks so much, so when i search on cont.com  should i search a regular paid ticket ,not an award ticket??  2)i am not elite but i have enough miles to fly business etc, which class should i search for.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on December 30, 2011, 01:43:09 AM
Thanks so much, so when i search on cont.com  should i search a regular paid ticket ,not an award ticket??  2)i am not elite but i have enough miles to fly business etc, which class should i search for.
If you are planning on using your miles, you should just use the regular Continental reward search. The above method is if you have a way to book the ticket from a Continental Platinum Elite account, you can check if they would even have availability for the dates you want before asking them, or pleading on the forums for someone to book for you.

See this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=9824.msg127100#msg127100) for more info
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gevaldig on December 31, 2011, 11:53:35 PM
so one of the benefits of elite is that he sees more availability?? or he also gets it for fewer miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on January 01, 2012, 02:16:19 AM
so one of the benefits of elite is that he sees more availability?? or he also gets it for fewer miles?
More saverpass availability
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Wolf on January 01, 2012, 11:38:29 AM
I'm pretty new to this, and sure enough sitting a few days on DDF is starting to make me enjoy this game,
Im any case here's my question,
I'm wanna fly NYC-Poland On Jan 29 Poland to Israel on Feb 1 then Feb 2 back TLV-NYC,
I have over enough miles on my ultimate rewards and over enough on delta skymiles,
How should I go about it to get the best miles fare?
Or should i just book by travel agent and earn some more miles,
Whats the trick to this all to get the most on your miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on January 01, 2012, 01:28:17 PM
I'm pretty new to this, and sure enough sitting a few days on DDF is starting to make me enjoy this game,
Im any case here's my question,
I'm wanna fly NYC-Poland On Jan 29 Poland to Israel on Feb 1 then Feb 2 back TLV-NYC,
I have over enough miles on my ultimate rewards and over enough on delta skymiles,
How should I go about it to get the best miles fare?
Or should i just book by travel agent and earn some more miles,
Whats the trick to this all to get the most on your miles?
Call a travel agent, get a price. Then find out if your flights are available with miles, and how many miles it would take to book. Calculate the value of those miles, and decide it it's worth while. You can also take into account status and redeemable miles earned when taking a revenue flight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 11, 2012, 05:07:51 PM
BMI online isn't listing TLV at all. Can someone confirm that I can call and book any *A flights that are available on ANA/CO? TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on February 11, 2012, 08:04:22 PM
BMI online isn't listing TLV at all. Can someone confirm that I can call and book any *A flights that are available on ANA/CO? TIA
Of course you can.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: miles on February 13, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
can we book with BMI miles online
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on February 14, 2012, 06:27:40 AM
Nope, not online, only via their farm.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 15, 2012, 07:27:06 AM
Of course you can.
Sounds reasonable, in the meantime the BMI rep insists ET has Y open but J is unavailable while AP clearly shows both. No patience to HUCA yet, just hope its not a mess with ET being a new *A member
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 15, 2012, 07:27:36 AM
can we book with BMI miles online
For BMI flights yes. For partners, no.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 03, 2012, 07:30:46 PM
Since this forum is not very active on shabbos, I've been strolling around FT

Found this site (http://awardfinder.juny4ng.com/) that someone built to help search for Star availability (as represented by ANA).  FT seems to like it. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-alliance/1303104-awardfinder-free-web-based-award-search.html)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ron dimbert on March 08, 2012, 03:55:51 PM
Trying to book Israel with USAir miles.  Problem...cannot book for grandkids leaving from 2 different cities to meet us in Phil for the Tel Aviv flight.  USair says they must be 15 to travel unaccompanied on 2 flights (doesn't matter that we r meeting them for the 2nd flight).  Any solutions?  Can I use my miles on another Star Alliance partner? (United?).  Last year solved this problem by flying Delta but have run out of Delta miles.

Thanks...Happy Purim
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 08, 2012, 04:02:42 PM
Trying to book Israel with USAir miles.  Problem...cannot book for grandkids leaving from 2 different cities to meet us in Phil for the Tel Aviv flight.  USair says they must be 15 to travel unaccompanied on 2 flights (doesn't matter that we r meeting them for the 2nd flight).  Any solutions?  Can I use my miles on another Star Alliance partner? (United?).  Last year solved this problem by flying Delta but have run out of Delta miles.

Thanks...Happy Purim
Even assuming that is an official rule, if you call again and again you'll find a rep who doesnt know that.

Also it really depends on the operating carriers rules - they might theoritically deny you boarding.

AFAIK the airline offer/require a ~$50 service to accompany the minor.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ron dimbert on March 08, 2012, 08:43:06 PM
to Platinum Guy--

This is the rule of the operating carrier (USair) and the computer kicks out any reservation for a minor (under 15, trying to fly two segments without an adult) so a rep can't book the ticket nor can I.

DK what AFAIK means?  Can u help me?

So, the question remains...Can these miles (USair) be used on another carrier?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on March 08, 2012, 09:53:19 PM
Question-
 If I book an award flight on United for a US Airways flight can I change the flight if I need to?
I think I remember reading somewhere something about US airways not allowing flight changes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on March 08, 2012, 10:06:35 PM
Question-
 If I book an award flight on United for a US Airways flight can I change the flight if I need to?
Yes, you're subject to the rules of the ticketing carrier, not the operating carrier.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on March 08, 2012, 10:19:49 PM
Yes, you're subject to the rules of the ticketing carrier, not the operating carrier.

Great, thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on March 09, 2012, 10:05:42 AM
My return flight I am trying to book is a mixed cabin.   I recall there was a way to book a coach ticket while being waitlisted for Business somehow. Is there a way to do that now with a mixed cabin flight thats on US booked from United?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: David B on March 09, 2012, 10:30:44 AM


DK what AFAIK means?  Can u help me?


AKAIK -- As Far As I Know

See following forum thread...

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10531.0

Enjoy the forums!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2012, 10:53:44 AM
My return flight I am trying to book is a mixed cabin.   I recall there was a way to book a coach ticket while being waitlisted for Business somehow. Is there a way to do that now with a mixed cabin flight thats on US booked from United?
"Plan B" was for CO booked awards on CO metal only.  The real question is if it will work at all anymore.
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on March 09, 2012, 12:07:24 PM
"Plan B" was for CO booked awards on CO metal only.  The real question is if it will work at all anymore.

Got it.  Any other options? If something opens up on the first leg could I call and have them switch it?


I hope the plan B works on United.  Though I never used it yet it seemed like a great option when needed.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 11, 2012, 05:07:04 AM
About the 15 year old.
Is there a way to check-in online, and never mentioning his/her age?

@ this age the cost is the same as an adult anyway....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on March 11, 2012, 01:18:37 PM
Booking a MileagePlus award ticket through United Reservations, regardless of departure date   $25

Is this when booking through phone reservations only? It doesn't seem to be written that way but I just booked an award flight and paid no fee.



And also it says:

Changing the departure to a date/time 21 days away or more   No fee   No fee   No fee   No fee

Changing the cabin, award type, or changing a flight to a different airline, regardless of departure date(3)  $75


Does this mean if I change my booked flight to a better time and it happens to be a different airline I'll get chard $75?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on March 11, 2012, 02:40:01 PM
With UA: If I do a US domestic leg in J/F and then a US-EU in Y (multicity), will it price the whole trip as J, or will there be some sort of pshara.

Example. IAH-IAD in J/F <connection> IAD-FRA in Y.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: damaxer91 on March 11, 2012, 02:45:15 PM
With UA: If I do a US domestic leg in J/F and then a US-EU in Y (multicity), will it price the whole trip as J, or will there be some sort of pshara.

Example. IAH-IAD in J/F <connection> IAD-FRA in Y.

Always prices at the highest cabin you are using
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 11, 2012, 03:48:50 PM
Always prices at the highest cabin you are using

You could try cutting it into two trips, I'l pretty sure it pays off sometimes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Devorah on March 12, 2012, 08:01:28 PM
I am trying to book an award with Aeroplan, but they are not coming up with all the flight options that I see on UA.  Is there anything I can do to get those flights?  I've tried calling and they tell me that they can't see it.  Also, they tell me that they cannot search by segment (i.e if I'm looking to go NYC-MEL, they can't search NYC-LAX and LAX-MEL separately which brings up more options).  Is that true or should I try calling back and speaking to another agent?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on March 13, 2012, 02:57:52 AM
Call again.

Tell them you just spoke to an agent who told you these flights are available (the ones you see on UA) and you just needed a minute to confirm that the timings were OK.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Devorah on March 13, 2012, 03:01:21 AM
Call again.

Tell them you just spoke to an agent who told you these flights are available (the ones you see on UA) and you just needed a minute to confirm that the timings were OK.
Even if it's not coming up on aeroplan.com but is coming up on united.com.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on March 13, 2012, 04:24:49 AM
@devorah, lately UA had a problem that their site showed more availability than there actualy was.

I believe its fixed now.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jas1285 on March 14, 2012, 02:53:15 PM
I am planning a safari to S. Africa NEXT summer, obviously to early to book flights now. I looked at the us Airway award chart and if I change the 60k SPG I will have enough for a ticket to Africa in business. I looked at United, ANA and Air Canada for random dates to see routing (I assume it’s 110k no matter how I get there as long as I book through US Airways)and there don’t seem to be any consistent awards tickets to get there, especially on business. Is there a better way to figure out if it’s worth it, or should I just look into oneworld instead? Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 07:25:17 PM
I am planning a safari to S. Africa NEXT summer, obviously to early to book flights now. I looked at the us Airway award chart and if I change the 60k SPG I will have enough for a ticket to Africa in business. I looked at United, ANA and Air Canada for random dates to see routing (I assume it’s 110k no matter how I get there as long as I book through US Airways)and there don’t seem to be any consistent awards tickets to get there, especially on business. Is there a better way to figure out if it’s worth it, or should I just look into oneworld instead? Thanks
Look for availability leg by leg
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jas1285 on March 14, 2012, 08:58:58 PM
Look for availability leg by leg
Do you think Star Alliance is better than one world?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 09:10:25 PM
Do you think Star Alliance is better than one world?
Probably no clear cut answer, BA has great availability, but not so much to SA IME
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fish Tank on March 14, 2012, 09:32:31 PM
Hi, I have 50k MR points.  I'd like to book a coach ticket from phily to tlv and use the points to upgrade to business. 
I'd like to fly continental or US. If I transfer the points to US, can I still fly with continental? (bec MR doesn't transfer to continental.)
Thank you in advance.

(My parents have US platinum if that matters)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 09:33:55 PM
Hi, I have 50k MR points.  I'd like to book a coach ticket from phily to tlv and use the points to upgrade to business. 
I'd like to fly continental or US. If I transfer the points to US, can I still fly with continental? (bec MR doesn't transfer to continental.)
Thank you in advance.

(My parents have US platinum if that matters)
mr doesn't transfer to us, you gotta use aeroplan. Search aeroplan partner award for restrictions
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on March 14, 2012, 09:42:43 PM
You generally can't use points to upgrade travel on another carrier.
Also currently you can transfer MR to US at a half-decent ratio thanks to the MR-SPG and SPG-US promotions.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fish Tank on March 14, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
mr doesn't transfer to us, you gotta use aeroplan. Search aeroplan partner award for restrictions

The first post in this thread doesn't say anything about aeroplan so I'm assuming its not a star alliance member.
So how would that help me?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fish Tank on March 14, 2012, 09:50:24 PM
You generally can't use points to upgrade travel on another carrier.
Also currently you can transfer MR to US at a half-decent ratio thanks to the MR-SPG and SPG-US promotions.

Thanks. So MR doesn't transfer directly to US but it does transfer through spg, correct?

Also, I guess I wont be flying continental bec upgrade wont work, but I guess US should be okay.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jas1285 on March 14, 2012, 09:51:52 PM
I will be booking a trip to South Africa in a year. I want to wait to make that decision but I don't want to pass up on this spg to US Airways deal. Should I transfer points now and hope for the best or just wait and book something with One world.
Other question: US Airways says it is 110k in miles to get to SA in business, does that mean no matter what airline or route I take to get there is will be 110K, no more no less?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on March 14, 2012, 09:56:24 PM
Thanks. So MR doesn't transfer directly to US but it does transfer through spg, correct?

Also, I guess I wont be flying continental bec upgrade wont work, but I guess US should be okay.

Thanks again

On US, unless you buy a full-fare (Y or B class), it'll cost you 40,000 miles plus $300 co-pay, IIRC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 09:58:54 PM
I will be booking a trip to South Africa in a year. I want to wait to make that decision but I don't want to pass up on this spg to US Airways deal. Should I transfer points now and hope for the best or just wait and book something with One world.
Other question: US Airways says it is 110k in miles to get to SA in business, does that mean no matter what airline or route I take to get there is will be 110K, no more no less?
Basically yes. The routing has to make sense, but US reps are pretty clueless.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fish Tank on March 14, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
On US, unless you buy a full-fare (Y or B class), it'll cost you 40,000 miles plus $300 co-pay, IIRC.

Your correct about the fees and mileage costs, I just saw that on US's site - but what's "Y/B full fare class" ?
Isn't a regular coach ticket a full class fare?
Also, this may not be the proper thread for this, but if my parents are platinum, does that wave the $300 upgrade fee? (If this isn't the right place,  please direct me to the proper thread)
Thanks again
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on March 14, 2012, 10:17:25 PM
Your correct about the fees and mileage costs, I just saw that on US's site - but what's "Y/B full fare class" ?
Isn't a regular coach ticket a full class fare?

Definitely not. A full-fare is a refundable ticket and can easily be 3-4x the price of a discounted coach fare.

Quote
Also, this may not be the proper thread for this, but if my parents are platinum, does that wave the $300 upgrade fee? (If this isn't the right place,  please direct me to the proper thread)
Thanks again

I'm not positive, but I don't believe having US Platinum elite status will waive the co-pay.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fish Tank on March 14, 2012, 10:40:59 PM
Definitely not. A full-fare is a refundable ticket and can easily be 3-4x the price of a discounted coach fare.

I'm not positive, but I don't believe having US Platinum elite status will waive the co-pay.

Okay thanx for your help ajk and everybody else. Ill guess be paying for a regular ticket and then upgrading for 40k + $300.
At least I'll be getting 3 x 50 pound bags for being preferred.

Now I gotta figure out how to do the MR-SPG-US transfer.  Heading over to that thread now.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: miles on March 18, 2012, 01:20:28 PM
You generally can't use points to upgrade travel on another carrier.
Also currently you can transfer MR to US at a half-decent ratio thanks to the MR-SPG and SPG-US promotions.
yes u can  (https://www2.aeroplan.com/saua/Upgrade.do)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on March 18, 2012, 01:27:25 PM
Let me know how that works out for you
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: miles on March 18, 2012, 01:57:05 PM
Let me know how that works out for you
i did it already a few times on LH and LX
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fish Tank on March 18, 2012, 02:07:52 PM
yes u can  (https://www2.aeroplan.com/saua/Upgrade.do)

Thanks!

Let me know how that works out for you


Dan, are you implying that it may not be as simple as they make it sound?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: miles on March 18, 2012, 02:46:23 PM
Thanks!

Dan, are you implying that it may not be as simple as they make it sound?
its need to be booked in special classes (and upgrades avli. )most of the time its not wort to buy this class bit i found it already worth a few times special on LX where AC only requires H class for LX
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ZCN on March 19, 2012, 10:39:28 PM
I hope this is the right place for my question.

  I'm looking to book a domestic flight for the 1st time with UA, from the Yellowstone area ( JAC, BZN, cody, etc.) to DTW in mid June. For some strange reason there is absolutely no saver economy space available, even from SLC and DEN. Can I expect things to open up down the road or is this going to hold?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Devorah on March 22, 2012, 02:04:11 AM
I hope this is the right place for my question.

  I'm looking to book a domestic flight for the 1st time with UA, from the Yellowstone area ( JAC, BZN, cody, etc.) to DTW in mid June. For some strange reason there is absolutely no saver economy space available, even from SLC and DEN. Can I expect things to open up down the road or is this going to hold?

There is a dedicated thread for award ticket help.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.570

But a quick search on united.com shows availability from JAC to DTW on 6/10, 6/11, 6/16 and 6/17.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jschping on April 02, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
If I get an award ticket from United's website, but it isn't on United's own planes (rather a partner airline) do I still get the benefits from my United Mileage Plus card? (Like baggage fees, etc)

Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JEWDA on April 02, 2012, 12:40:58 PM
If I get an award ticket from United's website, but it isn't on United's own planes (rather a partner airline) do I still get the benefits from my United Mileage Plus card? (Like baggage fees, etc)

Thanks
Nope, United metal only.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 02:40:49 PM
Anyone know how to conduct the following search:

I'd like to find out what the various legal stopovers for *A airlines would be for SIN-NYC.

For example, I know that you can fly:

SQ: SIN-PEK
UA: PEK-EWR

Anyone know a way to find the others?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on April 05, 2012, 02:46:16 PM
Anyone know how to conduct the following search:

I'd like to find out what the various legal stopovers for *A airlines would be for SIN-NYC.

For example, I know that you can fly:

SQ: SIN-PEK
UA: PEK-EWR

Anyone know a way to find the others?
Airline route mapper is great for that
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 03:18:47 PM
Airline route mapper is great for that

Thanks. Is it this (http://arm.64hosts.com/)?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on April 05, 2012, 03:57:32 PM
Thanks. Is it this (http://arm.64hosts.com/)?
Yup. Takes a bit to get the hang of it, but once you do it is quite helpful
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 05, 2012, 04:04:12 PM
Yup. Takes a bit to get the hang of it, but once you do it is quite helpful

Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on April 05, 2012, 06:30:00 PM
How often does it happen that award tickets open up within few days of flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 06, 2012, 04:43:24 AM
Quite often its the case that they open up.

I also look @ staralliance.com flight search to see what flies from where to where, and what day of the week, incl what's a valid connection, as well as ideas of available flights you might not have thought of.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on April 06, 2012, 12:09:57 PM
Has anyone found availability using Air Canadas sight even though it didn't come up on United?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 07, 2012, 01:40:49 PM
Has anyone found availability using Air Canadas sight even though it didn't come up on United?
Of course. Most Swiss flights won't appear on UA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on April 09, 2012, 12:50:41 AM
Are the advantages of using other search engines such ANA or AC limited to international flight or also on domestic flights?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on April 09, 2012, 05:48:34 AM
The only advantage (if searching for a specific non-stop flight) on an airline specicfic site (which operates the actual flight), if you are willing to pay extra miles for enhanced availability. (In my oppinion rarely worth it).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 02:20:24 PM
If one books a UA award ticket from a non-elite account, can he or she cancel that reservation within 24 hours without penalty?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2012, 04:19:28 PM
If one books a UA award ticket from a non-elite account, can he or she cancel that reservation within 24 hours without penalty?
Yes, all UA tickets are cancellable for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 04:23:22 PM
Yes, all UA tickets are cancellable for 24 hours.

TY.

@Dan or anyone who knows:

I have on hold JFK-FRA-BKK. How can I add a BKK-CMB leg on the same itin? Is it possible to do online?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 09, 2012, 04:30:51 PM
TY.

@Dan or anyone who knows:

I have on hold JFK-FRA-BKK. How can I add a BKK-CMB leg on the same itin? Is it possible to do online?
I don't think you can have more than 3 segments on 1 itinerary without calling having a UA rep call you
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 04:33:08 PM
I don't think you can have more than 3 segments on 1 itinerary without calling having a UA rep call you

So will they just add it if I call, or did I mess up by putting the JFK-FRA-BKK portion on hold online?

Also, is there a booking fee to do that?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Side incomer on April 09, 2012, 04:35:05 PM
TY.

@Dan or anyone who knows:

I have on hold JFK-FRA-BKK. How can I add a BKK-CMB leg on the same itin? Is it possible to do online?
Call in to add.

Don't make the mistake I made a few times that I put it separately on hold, and then called in to merge, because they'll have to cancel one, and you're not guaranteed that they will still have space available then.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
Call in to add.

Don't make the mistake I made a few times that I put it separately on hold, and then called in to merge, because they'll have to cancel one, and you're not guaranteed that they will still have space available then.

Thanks.

What's the best way if I am starting from scratch? Hold one portion online and call to add the second, or try to do the whole thing on the phone?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 05:14:13 PM
Before adding the leg there were only taxes of $72.56.

I added the leg and now it shows this (see pic).

The rep said the "fees will be exempted" when I book.

Can I trust that or do I need to call back and make sure they're removed?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 09, 2012, 07:29:14 PM
Before adding the leg there were only taxes of $72.56.

I added the leg and now it shows this (see pic).

The rep said the "fees will be exempted" when I book.

Can I trust that or do I need to call back and make sure they're removed?
Call back IMHO
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 09:51:09 PM
Call back IMHO

I did. Another rep said her system only shows the $72 in taxes, so I guess the first one was right.

Anyone know if the close-in ticketing fee applies if I held the reservation before the 21 days? Does it have to be actually ticketed 21+ days to avoid the fee?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Monsey on April 09, 2012, 09:56:55 PM
So will they just add it if I call, or did I mess up by putting the JFK-FRA-BKK portion on hold online?

Also, is there a booking fee to do that?
How do you put a ticket on hold on united.com?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 09, 2012, 09:59:42 PM
How do you put a ticket on hold on united.com?

There's an option to "reserve" once you select the flight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 01:44:44 AM
I did. Another rep said her system only shows the $72 in taxes, so I guess the first one was right.

Anyone know if the close-in ticketing fee applies if I held the reservation before the 21 days? Does it have to be actually ticketed 21+ days to avoid the fee?
Must be ticketed.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2012, 09:34:09 AM
Must be ticketed.

TY!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aussiebochur on April 10, 2012, 09:43:56 AM
TY!
Go to Bora Bora! ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on April 16, 2012, 01:12:37 PM
Can you check a year in advance and the ticket should be for 30 days
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sam28 on April 25, 2012, 05:31:22 PM
hi can i book a ticket with ana with having to pay big time for foul ?
 
is it still worth transfing poins to and i have there 50k i wont to use it to go to isreal and they charg me 700$ for foul what can i do
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on April 25, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
hi can i book a ticket with ana with having to pay big time for foul ?
 
is it still worth transfing poins to and i have there 50k i wont to use it to go to isreal and they charg me 700$ for foul what can i do
would you like to enlighten us as to what "foul" is, and while your at it retype your whole post again so it makes sense
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JEWDA on April 25, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
would you like to enlighten us as to what "foul" is, and while your at it retype your whole post again so it makes sense
He prob. means fuel.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: David B on May 02, 2012, 05:06:03 PM
He prob. means fuel.

Good call -- either that or an expensive chicken dinner on the plane
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on May 13, 2012, 03:24:30 PM
I had a ticket tlv-ath-phl booked.  Saw tlv-zrh-ewr open up put that on hold because ewr is a better option for me. Is there any way not to have to pay redeposit fee and not lose the ticket?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on May 13, 2012, 03:25:14 PM
I had a ticket tlv-ath-phl booked.  Saw tlv-zrh-ewr open up put that on hold because ewr is a better option for me. Is there any way not to have to pay redeposit fee and not lose the ticket?
u shouldnt have put it on hold and just called to change it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on May 13, 2012, 03:27:04 PM
u shouldnt have put it on hold and just called to change it
Was nervous I would lose it. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 13, 2012, 03:45:15 PM
Some reps will agree to change one pnr to another,
Also, if u cancel the new reservation 99% chance it will become available again and u can change the other tkt (call up and cancel when rep is ready to grab)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on May 13, 2012, 03:46:49 PM
Some reps will agree to change one pnr to another,
Also, if u cancel the new reservation 99% chance it will become available again and u can change the other tkt (call up and cancel when rep is ready to grab)
thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ez1985 on May 15, 2012, 12:17:10 AM
I am trying to book a flight using miles to go from Baltimore to lax in August. Award tickets are showing not available for the 12500 amount. Does that mean they will not be available or will it open up?  Any help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on May 15, 2012, 03:38:15 AM
I am trying to book a flight using miles to go from Baltimore to lax in August. Award tickets are showing not available for the 12500 amount. Does that mean they will not be available or will it open up?  Any help is greatly appreciated.

What airline?

Things def could open up. 
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ez1985 on May 15, 2012, 09:32:31 AM
What airline?

Things def could open up.
My bad.  United. 
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2012, 03:09:20 PM
My bad.  United.

There is Saver availability in August from BWI-LAX but there is a stopover.
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ez1985 on May 15, 2012, 03:16:21 PM
There is Saver availability in August from BWI-LAX but there is a stopover.
I actually just saw that.  Any chance nonstop will open up?  How often should I check?
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
I actually just saw that.  Any chance nonstop will open up?  How often should I check?

Definitely a chance. Award inventory is constantly in flux.

Depends on how important it is to you. For one of my recent trips, I checked daily. But you should also using a service like ExpertFlyer (paid).
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ez1985 on May 15, 2012, 03:28:45 PM
Definitely a chance. Award inventory is constantly in flux.

Depends on how important it is to you. For one of my recent trips, I checked daily. But you should also using a service like ExpertFlyer (paid).
Pretty important.  I am flying with a toddler and an infant so any stops would be very detrimental to my health and sanity. 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2012, 03:30:25 PM
Then check daily. Or use EF.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ez1985 on May 15, 2012, 03:38:17 PM
Then check daily. Or use EF.
will do.  Thank you.  Do you use Expert Flyer?  Is it worth it? Which version would you reccomend?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Daniel on May 16, 2012, 02:14:00 PM
Is there a master list of all 1-stop connections from NYC to TLV anywhere?

So far I have:
ZRH
FRA
MUC
BRU
IST
WAW

Am I missing any? In general I'm finding that Euope-TLV has good Business availability but scarce economy. Can you combine?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on May 16, 2012, 03:41:51 PM
If you're speaking strictly *A then VIE, and CPH
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Daniel on May 16, 2012, 03:43:34 PM
If you're speaking strictly *A then VIE, and CPH

VIE AND CPH both say "There are no nonstop flights available for this destination". Are you sure *A flies from NYC to there?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: miles on May 16, 2012, 03:54:34 PM
VIE AND CPH both say "There are no nonstop flights available for this destination". Are you sure *A flies from NYC to there?
VIE FOR SURE
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on May 16, 2012, 04:10:05 PM
VIE AND CPH both say "There are no nonstop flights available for this destination". Are you sure *A flies from NYC to there?
Who is "they"?
I flew VIE-TLV less than a month ago on *A (OS)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Daniel on May 16, 2012, 04:40:51 PM
Who is "they"?
I flew VIE-TLV less than a month ago on *A (OS)

I was talking about United.com
I figured out what happened. Unless I search for a day with direct flight availability there is no way to see a "forest-view" calendar with all direct availability. So it looked like direct didn't exist. I see it does now.

So you are right about VIE, but CPH does not have direct to TLV as far as I can see. Any other scandanvian possibilities?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on May 16, 2012, 04:42:36 PM
cph does starting in june i believe two days a week
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Daniel on May 16, 2012, 04:47:05 PM
cph does starting in june i believe two days a week

Well it's not showing on united.com for post-june either
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: myb821 on May 16, 2012, 04:49:46 PM
Well it's not showing on united.com for post-june either
it wont show up if there isnt availability
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Daniel on May 16, 2012, 04:57:23 PM
it wont show up if there isnt availability

I searched for paid fares as well
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MnM1130 on May 24, 2012, 03:30:48 AM
germany 14 hour stop 2 adults and 3 children- stop is overnight- will prob stay in hotel near airport- they wanna know if its dangerous... i never did it and didnt find much about it- (flight is in business class)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 24, 2012, 05:20:36 AM
germany 14 hour stop 2 adults and 3 children- stop is overnight- will prob stay in hotel near airport- they wanna know if its dangerous... i never did it and didnt find much about it- (flight is in business class)
What are you asking? Is staying in a hotel in Germany is dangerous?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 24, 2012, 05:23:30 AM
Is there a master list of all 1-stop connections from NYC to TLV anywhere?

So far I have:
ZRH
FRA
MUC
BRU
IST
WAW

Am I missing any? In general I'm finding that Euope-TLV has good Business availability but scarce economy. Can you combine?
Yes. There's a master thread flights to TLV or so (try googling it)

AFAIK the CPH-TLV hasn't been uploaded to the * system yet.

Bear in mind TLV-CPH arrives at midnight after all flights departed from CPH, so if you want to connect from there you will have to spend the night there.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Daniel on May 24, 2012, 02:45:08 PM

AFAIK the CPH-TLV hasn't been uploaded to the * system yet.


Can I search by calling?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Daniel on June 11, 2012, 12:57:26 PM
In one of Dan;s posts on the main site he wrote you can use United miles to get to TLV using:
Singapore/Lufthansa via Frankfurt, Aegean via Athens
I'm not able to search for those routes on United.com
If I search those airlines inventory directly using Expert Flyer, will that be indicative of United's availability?
What about elite vs non-elite? Is that only for United flights?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rots5 on June 17, 2012, 03:32:40 PM
how do i get ana to let me search flights... its not letting me search
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JEWDA on June 17, 2012, 03:33:47 PM
how do i get ana to let me search flights... its not letting me search
you have an ANA account?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rots5 on June 17, 2012, 03:43:31 PM
just signed up with one...though its the japanese one
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SPGCont on July 01, 2012, 05:20:44 PM
Anyone know of a way to find out to which cities in Europe you can fly direct to from LAX area using United miles?

I know that there are direct flights to London and various cities in Germany from LAX, but I would like to avoid those two.

Do I have any other options?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 20, 2012, 12:27:02 PM
"ANA search is far from exhaustive, it does not search all possibilities.  To really search all options do a regular fare search on Orbitz and find all of the Star Alliance options.  Then enter in each leg separately into ANA.
For example search for JFK-IST and then IST-TLV to go on Turkish via Istanbul, or JFK-MUC and then MUC-TLV to go on Lufthansa via Munich, etc."
Is Kayak just as good? I ask cuz they give you the option to choose alliances you want to fly with as opposed to click each airline separately.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: askmoses on August 05, 2012, 01:10:08 AM
It's graying out my ability to click on Star Alliance partner search... this is while I'm logged in...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sam28 on August 08, 2012, 03:35:08 PM
what is the best points to use from nyc to kbp ? i have united ba ana and aa which one wil be the best to use ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Devorah on August 09, 2012, 01:11:15 AM
It's graying out my ability to click on Star Alliance partner search... this is while I'm logged in...
read the original post.  u first need to search for a flight that ana flies and then it should give you option to search Star Alliance.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: askmoses on August 09, 2012, 10:24:54 PM
read the original post.  u first need to search for a flight that ana flies and then it should give you option to search Star Alliance.
So to just check domestic within the US is impossible? Say if United wasn't showing availability and I wanted to fly US Airways...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on August 10, 2012, 01:47:08 AM
So to just check domestic within the US is impossible? Say if United wasn't showing availability and I wanted to fly US Airways...
read the original post.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: askmoses on August 10, 2012, 01:49:21 AM
Sorry missed the links right in the beginning.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yossi4k on August 22, 2012, 01:01:20 PM
no0b question. When I signed up for ana I never got an email confirmation with my member 3. How do I find my member number and/or log in?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 12, 2012, 03:12:37 AM
Is there no forgot username/password link, hopefully you wrote your emailaddress correctly.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 12, 2012, 03:14:07 AM
I realized by chance that there is a LJU-TLV flight with Adria.

For flights to the usa, that would be equal to at least 2 stops, but might be a good idea for a stop.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yossi4k on September 12, 2012, 12:41:06 PM
Is there no forgot username/password link, hopefully you wrote your emailaddress correctly.
Yes there is a forgot password link (https://cam.ana.co.jp/reminder/ReminderInputServlet_e) but it requires you to input your AMC (?) # which I'm assuming is your ana number. Problem is that ANA doesnt send a confirmation email with your member # in it so if you didn't save it when you signed up there's no way to retrieve it online IMHO
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 13, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
Well, if you wrote your email address incorrectly, you can sign up again, with the correctly spelled one, and it won't be a dupicate.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: presidentialplus on September 13, 2012, 10:03:48 AM

Which *A program would let me book JFK-IST-TLV, OCT 9th?
United doesn't.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 16, 2012, 04:37:20 AM
Some programs allow for more availability when giving extra miles.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: blue eyes on September 19, 2012, 04:02:47 PM
how do u actually book  a reward flight with star alliance or ana?
i've been able to search for flights bur havent been able to book it with rewards

btw can you search one way trip on ANA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yosel on October 11, 2012, 01:37:34 PM
How would i search on United.com an award ticket, going from NYC to TLV on April 24 coming back the 29th at which time i would like to stop over in "any" city for a full day.
for example can put in europe? or do i need to search every city separetly?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on October 11, 2012, 02:19:13 PM
Need to search each city separately
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chayam on October 12, 2012, 02:35:29 AM
How likely is it for United to open up saver award availability for EWR-TLV direct flights 11/21/12-11/28/12?
Any idea? Is it a big risk?

Because right now I can get saver award PHL-TLV for those dates. For the way there I will have to buy a separate ticket for NYC-PHL and on the way back it is not a problem because the stopover is in EWR.
Is there a chance that I can convince an agent to book the PHL-TLV and ask her to add a EWR-PHL still at saver award?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 12, 2012, 09:18:29 AM
Don't see why you wouldn't be able to add EWR-PHL at a later point.
Title: Re: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on October 12, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
Don't see why you wouldn't be able to add EWR-PHL at a later point.
For $75?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on October 16, 2012, 09:43:22 AM
Hello all. First time posting here. :D
So my company is sending me to Sinagpore and Hong Kong for 2 weeks.
Booking from EWR to SIN via Singapore Air.
Should i sign up for a singapore airlines membership or can the miles flown be credited to my United membership.
On my way back from Hong Kong i would like to go to Tel Aviv for Friday and back to EWR on Sunday.
Using ITA to find flights , they all come up as $5000 or more.
Using United to search I come up with flights that land too late on Friday.
I've tried ANA to search but the partner airlines is grayed out for some reason.
any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on October 23, 2012, 07:24:59 AM
On ANA you have to search 1st for a flight that ANA flies, e.g. NY to Tokyo, then you can change it to any other airport or flight you want, read the original post on page 1.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 06, 2012, 01:36:15 PM
@Dan
Why not add into your flying to Israel summary to fly to Europe on US metal during low season for 35k, and then check for an Avios or other ticket into Israel? I believe the 5k discount for card members would also apply.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 06, 2012, 01:38:16 PM
@Dan
Why not add into your flying to Israel summary to fly to Europe on US metal during low season for 35k, and then check for an Avios or other ticket into Israel? I believe the 5k discount for card members would also apply.
The summary is just for booking a single ticket.  People complain as it is that it's too much for them to comprehend.
Feel free to leave a comment there though, maybe it'll help someone out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 06, 2012, 01:55:20 PM
The summary is just for booking a single ticket.  People complain as it is that it's too much for them to comprehend.
Feel free to leave a comment there though, maybe it'll help someone out.
I try to avoid the comment section. It give me a headache...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 08, 2012, 11:34:40 PM
This isn't a star alliance question, but since there is no OW master thread:

Anyone know how fluid Cathay F availability is?

I only see one date that is open in May 2013 HKG-JFK (the 14th), and I'm looking for something between 15th and 23rd.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 08, 2012, 11:35:22 PM
And for a *A question:

Anyone know how often SQ flights go from waitlist to available? Often as it gets closer to departure? rarely?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 06:08:00 PM
This isn't a star alliance question, but since there is no OW master thread:

Anyone know how fluid Cathay F availability is?

I only see one date that is open in May 2013 HKG-JFK (the 14th), and I'm looking for something between 15th and 23rd.

And for a *A question:

Anyone know how often SQ flights go from waitlist to available? Often as it gets closer to departure? rarely?

No one?

Perhaps, @sideincomer?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 08:15:50 PM
I've heard differing reports -- is it possible to hold SQ space using Krisflyer miles?

Any experience?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 10, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
CX is very fluid, esp when it gets closer in.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 10, 2012, 08:51:45 PM
CX is very fluid, esp when it gets closer in.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaskel on February 06, 2013, 03:36:24 PM


-Click "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines"
Perform the search, for example type in JFK to TLV.

this is what i got
*   We cannot accept your request for booking Partner Flight Awards since there are not enough miles in your account.
can you please help
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on February 10, 2013, 02:36:24 PM
Any idea where I can find a pdf file of the UA award chart? I don't like the interactive format.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 18, 2013, 12:01:34 AM
Are you allowed to go the other way back on a round trip flight with UA or AC? For example if I fly to SIN from NYC thru HKG can I fly back thru LHR?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Devorah on February 18, 2013, 12:05:54 AM
Are you allowed to go the other way back on a round trip flight with UA or AC? For example if I fly to SIN from NYC thru HKG can I fly back thru LHR?
yes
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 18, 2013, 01:11:16 AM
yes
Is it bookable online with UA? For my dates, July 17 EWR to SIN the UA website shows I can get there thru China or Europe but for the way back on Aug 1 it only shows the Europe options if I choose the routing to SIN via Europe on the outbound. If I choose the HKG or PEK routing to SIN on the way there it does not show any availability to get back at all.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Devorah on February 18, 2013, 01:16:27 AM
Is it bookable online with UA? For my dates, July 17 EWR to SIN the UA website shows I can get there thru China or Europe but for the way back on Aug 1 it only shows the Europe options if I choose the routing to SIN via Europe on the outbound. If I choose the HKG or PEK routing to SIN on the way there it does not show any availability to get back at all.
try booking 2 one ways?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 18, 2013, 01:27:17 AM
try booking 2 one ways?
Yes that for sure works but then I miss out on my free stopover.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Devorah on February 18, 2013, 02:20:52 AM
Yes that for sure works but then I miss out on my free stopover.
Maybe try booking and then call on phone to do a routing change.  If it doesn't work, you can always cancel within 24 hours of booking.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PETERP on February 18, 2013, 10:38:29 AM
  Booked a flight on UA.com for Wife a fews days ago . OW BIZ A3 #A3880 ATH JFK via GVA LX 22 for 50K June 19th 2013

Now looking to put Mom in law on same flight and all I see is OW coach for 30K .
any way to see actual availability or predict if Biz will open up later ??
Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: DP7 on February 27, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
If you book a flight on UA through SQ. Can you make changes? I want to change for a later flight the same day.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 27, 2013, 06:46:16 PM
If you book a flight on UA through SQ. Can you make changes? I want to change for a later flight the same day.
$20 to change.
$30 to cancel.
Rules here (http://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/ppsclub-krisflyer/krisflyer-fees/)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 27, 2013, 06:59:49 PM
If you book a flight on UA through SQ. Can you make changes? I want to change for a later flight the same day.

IIRC, they have very reasonable change fees.

ETA: See above  :-[
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: DP7 on February 27, 2013, 09:07:02 PM
$20 to change.
$30 to cancel.
Rules here (http://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/ppsclub-krisflyer/krisflyer-fees/)

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 28, 2013, 12:31:11 AM
Thank you very much.
No Problem, anytime :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on March 03, 2013, 12:05:32 AM
Anyone else have issues when trying to book a flight with us airways although it's showing available on ua.com (I called them and they said nothing they can do) is this a case of huca?
Any tips how to get those tickets?
Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chff on March 03, 2013, 01:23:13 AM
Anyone else have issues when trying to book a flight with us airways although it's showing available on ua.com (I called them and they said nothing they can do) is this a case of huca?
Any tips how to get those tickets?
Thanks

On which airline?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on March 03, 2013, 03:47:48 AM
Lx
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sim on March 05, 2013, 05:20:30 PM
Does us air not allow a change to award ticket once you traveled the outbound already? Is there anyway around this?

Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on March 05, 2013, 05:25:53 PM
Does us air not allow a change to award ticket once you traveled the outbound already? Is there anyway around this?

Thanks

Correct. No.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sim on March 05, 2013, 06:02:17 PM
Correct. No.
Thanks, I thought so
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Side incomer on March 05, 2013, 06:54:02 PM
Lx
Had this recently as well.

A day later US Air was able to see it.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on March 06, 2013, 01:59:50 AM
Had this recently as well.

A day later US Air was able to see it.
finally they have these flights available but they are charging a fortune rt business 60k +190 +75 award fee
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: fresar on March 06, 2013, 03:38:16 PM
how do I do the ANA one way workaround?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: David R on March 09, 2013, 10:24:38 PM
Buy.com, a site I shopped at many times, became Rakuten.com. You can earn ANA miles by shopping the ANA Mileage Mall. One of the vendors in the ANA Mileage Mall is Rakuten. Any idea if I can transfer Rakuten points I have accumulated on Rakuten's US site to ANA miles? If not, any tips on shopping Rakuten's global site and getting a small purchase shipped to the US for free or cheap? My goal is to earn a few ANA miles so I could use the site to search for Star Alliance awards.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on March 12, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
If I find a ticket one way from tlv to zrh and the following day to nyc is there any way to book it with United as 1 ticket?What I gain is 7500 ua points +a few bucks in taxes.
On United the ticket won't come up if I search tlv nyc but on ana its available.
Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on March 12, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
If I find a ticket one way from tlv to zrh and the following day to nyc is there any way to book it with United as 1 ticket?What I gain is 7500 ua points +a few bucks in taxes.
On United the ticket won't come up if I search tlv nyc but on ana its available.
Thanks
PUTPAC UA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on March 12, 2013, 10:33:10 AM
how do I do the ANA one way workaround?

http://milevalue.com/free-oneway-principles-on-ana-awards/
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fan of Dan on March 17, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
Has anyone noticed that Thai airways almost always shows phantom availabilty? Pretty much every time I look at tickets with a Thai leg I get the rapidly changing availablity message.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ishkabible on March 20, 2013, 02:03:25 PM
Sorry for the noobish question:

I found award seat availability on a US Airways PHL-TLV flight but it costs 120k miles.  The same flight shows up when I search Star-Alliance but when I go to ANA there is no availability shown.  Is this always the case that ANA doesn't have full access to partner award tickets?  If so, is there a better way to arbitrage miles/points and get that flight for less?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 02:08:39 PM
Sorry for the noobish question:

I found award seat availability on a US Airways PHL-TLV flight but it costs 120k miles.  The same flight shows up when I search Star-Alliance but when I go to ANA there is no availability shown.  Is this always the case that ANA doesn't have full access to partner award tickets?  If so, is there a better way to arbitrage miles/points and get that flight for less?  Thanks!
Dates?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ishkabible on March 20, 2013, 02:23:47 PM
12/18-01/07
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on March 20, 2013, 02:26:02 PM
12/18-01/07
No USAir saver awards in coach or business for those dates.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ishkabible on March 20, 2013, 02:29:23 PM
No USAir saver awards in coach or business for those dates.

Ok, so does that mean in general only the "Economy low" and "Envoy low" on US Airways translates to availability through ANA? (as "Economy Medium" is the award category I see open)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
Ok, so does that mean in general only the "Economy low" and "Envoy low" on US Airways translates to availability through ANA? (as "Economy Medium" is the award category I see open)

Yes, only the lowest is available to partners.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ishkabible on March 20, 2013, 02:34:36 PM
Yes, only the lowest is available to partners.

Thanks for the education :-)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Centurion on March 21, 2013, 10:37:57 AM
was looking for ita software for awards or other ways to use ANA points.
seems very difficult to find anything there
ex. april 7-apr 12 from nyc tlv
i found on united (a flight on lufthansa) but none on ana different buckets per airline- i called ana as well
also i tried from nyc-any city in europe (brussels-munich-frankfurt-zurich-geneva etc) and then seperate to tlv without luck
on a side note- no return tix avail after feb 20th (not opened yet i guess)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2013, 12:25:05 AM
UA (and EF) show 2 seats in F on LH 402, FRA-EWR, on 4/16.

(http://i.imgur.com/SfgLHbE.png)

However, ANA (which is supposedly the most accurate) shows nothing:

(http://i.imgur.com/XikZ3hG.png)



Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 10, 2013, 12:33:32 AM
UA (and EF) show 2 seats in F on LH 402, FRA-EWR, on 4/16.
Any thoughts?
EF pulls from UA inventory, so if UA is showing "phantom" so is EF.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2013, 12:48:27 AM
EF pulls from UA inventory, so if UA is showing "phantom" so is EF.

The Star Alliance inventory is not being screen scraped from the United.com website.  Beyond that we do not discuss our airline relationships or specific data sourcing.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 10, 2013, 12:59:43 AM
AC is not showing either.

I have a feeling....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2013, 01:03:27 AM
Another example:

Both LH400 (FRA-JFK) and LH402 (FRA-EWR) on 4/10 (today) show 2 seats in F on UA.com, and so does EF.

Yet, ANA shows neither.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 10, 2013, 01:18:05 AM
Another example:

Both LH400 (FRA-JFK) and LH402 (FRA-EWR) on 4/10 (today) show 2 seats in F on UA.com, and so does EF.

Yet, ANA shows neither.
Proving my point
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2013, 01:31:39 AM
Oddly enough, I just tried booking it, and it let me.

I cancelled within 3 mins though, so I have no idea if it would ticket.

But if it was phantom, I'm assuming it would have errored out...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Moishebatchy on April 10, 2013, 02:22:43 AM
Oddly enough, I just tried booking it, and it let me.

I cancelled within 3 mins though, so I have no idea if it would ticket.

But if it was phantom, I'm assuming it would have errored out...

Maybe try again, and wait ~20 hours?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2013, 08:21:48 AM
Maybe try again, and wait ~20 hours?

The flight was in 3 hours :P
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Moishebatchy on April 10, 2013, 03:01:36 PM
The flight was in 3 hours :P

I hear... ;)

Maybe try it on a random date, for next time (proof-of-concept)?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yosele on April 10, 2013, 03:21:44 PM

-A great search engine is ANA.
-You need to first signup for an ANA account:
https://cam.ana.co.jp/psz/amc/jsp/regist0_e.jsp

-You can then use this link to search for Star Alliance award flights:
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_en/preAwdSearchLogin.do

-Click "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines"
Perform the search, for example type in JFK to TLV.
the "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines" button is grayed out.

how could I get it to work?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 10, 2013, 03:24:55 PM
the "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines" button is grayed out.

how could I get it to work?
First try searching a ANA route (eg. NRT-LAX/HKG/FRA etc.)

Then you will see on the bottom the "Use Stat Alliance Member Airlines" lit up in blue.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yosele on April 10, 2013, 03:48:31 PM
thanks, it worked.

Now, why when I search flights it shows little to none flight availabilty, vs united that shows more flights.

I am looking for 04/14 nyc-lax and 4/18 lax-nyc
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yossi. on April 11, 2013, 05:36:22 AM
Noob question: I need to book a Turkish Airline flight and I know that they have award availability for that flight on their website. When I look in ANA and Unite, I can't find award space for that same flight... Is there any other way for me to get that flight? Any other airline to check? Any way to transfer from anything to Turkish? TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 21, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
Why when I call US they can't find flights on LX and TG, which UA, ANA, AC and EF are able to find?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on April 21, 2013, 11:20:34 PM
You see it on UA.com or by a UA rep?
If its the former than its probably not actually available. It has a fancy name... Nu! Remind me!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on April 21, 2013, 11:21:51 PM
Phantom?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 21, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I was able to see it on UA and AC, UA rep was able to confirm, but AC rep said the system is showing available but when she tries to hold the seats it won't let her.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on April 22, 2013, 12:35:49 AM
Yeah, phantom.
It drives me crazy.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Centurion on April 22, 2013, 12:40:46 AM
a phantom meshuganer
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sun365 on April 22, 2013, 02:27:03 PM
I am trying to use the search engine  for Star Alliance award flights using the link
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_en/preAwdSearchLogin.do
but “Use star Alliance Member Airlines” is grayed out”. Can anyone guide me how to get this working?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2013, 02:40:07 PM
I am trying to use the search engine  for Star Alliance award flights using the link
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_en/preAwdSearchLogin.do
but “Use star Alliance Member Airlines” is grayed out”. Can anyone guide me how to get this working?

You either need 100 miles or you you need to search for an ANA served route and then you can switch it to Star Alliance.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on April 22, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
When does SQ open award availability to United? I'm trying to figure out how to pick up the SQ26 as my routing home from TLV on 8/23

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 22, 2013, 03:52:03 PM
When does SQ open award availability to United? I'm trying to figure out how to pick up the SQ26 as my routing home from TLV on 8/23
They don't in business.

You need Krisflyer miles for that.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 22, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
They don't in business.

You need Krisflyer miles for that.

-0.5

They don't tend to open TATL or TPAC space to partners.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 22, 2013, 05:25:24 PM
-0.5

They don't tend to open TATL or TPAC space to partners.
Exactly what OP is talking about.

They don't open to partners. Sometimes there are glitches that you can book SQ on partners, but on a general basis, they don't give them space.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 22, 2013, 05:37:46 PM
Exactly what OP is talking about.

They don't open to partners. Sometimes there are glitches that you can book SQ on partners, but on a general basis, they don't give them space.

1) Your statement, when viewed objectively, is simply untrue, as they do open J space to United.
2) Even in context, SQ26 goes from SIN-FRA before it goes FRA-JFK. You can, indeed, on occasion, find J space on the NON-TATL route.

When does SQ open award availability to United?

They don't in business.

You need Krisflyer miles for that.

-0.5

They don't tend to open TATL or TPAC space to partners.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 22, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
1) Your statement, when viewed objectively, is simply untrue, as they do open J space to United.
2) Even in context, SQ26 goes from SIN-FRA before it goes FRA-JFK. You can, indeed, on occasion, find J space on the NON-TATL route.
1)I have never seen "J" available, but I guess it is possible.

2)OP specifically says,
When does SQ open award availability to United? I'm trying to figure out how to pick up the SQ26 as my routing home from TLV on 8/23
Which could only mean FRA-JFK.

Please don't tell me he was talking about TLV-SIN-FRA-JFK, which anyways he wouldn't be able to get "J" or "F" on the last segment.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 22, 2013, 06:02:18 PM
He very well could mean TLV-SIN-FRA-JFK if he wants SQ badly enough.

In any event, I was referring to your statement in its objective sense.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on April 22, 2013, 06:09:25 PM
@AJK
C-O-M-E O-N
It was self understood what he meant.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on April 22, 2013, 06:21:09 PM
@AJK
C-O-M-E O-N
It was self understood what he meant.

Yeah, I wanted to try to use SQ for the FRA-NYC segment instead of LH because the LH flights get in too late and it's a Friday. Which totally segued into my other thread, and whether I should plan a trip at all that requires Friday transatlantic travel.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on April 22, 2013, 06:31:55 PM
Very well. Move on. Nothing to see here  :)
Title: Star Alliance Airlines that Fly US->TLV ?
Post by: sun365 on April 23, 2013, 01:13:26 AM
Is there a list of Start Alliance Airlines that fly from US to TLV (w & w/o stop over) ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2013, 01:44:38 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23168
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 24, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
Is EWR - SIN and BKK PHL a valid round trip with ac?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: avremie on April 28, 2013, 06:53:24 PM
Whats the best way to fly NYC-RIO using milege?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: easy48 on May 01, 2013, 06:20:47 PM
Anyone know how Turkish business class is when going from TLV-IST-MLE?  Also, what is the availability like?  Can I call United to book?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 01, 2013, 06:50:35 PM
Anyone know how Turkish business class is when going from TLV-IST-MLE?  Also, what is the availability like?  Can I call United to book?
Yes

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: easy48 on May 01, 2013, 06:53:23 PM
How does the business class compare to other airlines?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hiding on May 02, 2013, 12:32:02 AM
How long does it take for the miles to repost in my ANA account if I were to cancel my ticket?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PETERP on May 02, 2013, 01:16:34 AM
How does the business class compare to other airlines?

Better than most
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on May 02, 2013, 10:00:45 AM
Anyone know how Turkish business class is when going from TLV-IST-MLE?  Also, what is the availability like?  Can I call United to book?
You can book online as well
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: easy48 on May 02, 2013, 12:32:41 PM
You can book online as well

No availability in business for the IST-MLE leg of the trip.  likelihood of opening up?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yossi. on May 02, 2013, 12:34:39 PM
No availability in business for the IST-MLE leg of the trip.  likelihood of opening up?
I found my IST-MLE easily in business but I have been checking MLE-IST for 2 months and I still have not found availabitility, even in coach...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 03, 2013, 01:58:41 AM
If I have an itin on which I want to add an LH F leg that hasnt opened yet, can I (when the flight opens) hold the segment as a new booking on UA.com and then have the rep add the held leg onto my existing itin?

I'd do that to snag it immediately instead of trying to call and maybe have to wait on the phone...

Any know if possible?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 03, 2013, 07:40:41 AM
If I have an itin on which I want to add an LH F leg that hasnt opened yet, can I (when the flight opens) hold the segment as a new booking on UA.com and then have the rep add the held leg onto my existing itin?

I'd do that to snag it immediately instead of trying to call and maybe have to wait on the phone...

Any know if possible?

They have to play "catch and release" (or rather, release and catch) with it. They will warn you very sternly that there's no guarantee that it will going back to being available, but IME, when it's a partner flight, it's usually does.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 03, 2013, 08:27:49 AM
Don't know if I wanna risk it. I'll just have to call quickly :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 03, 2013, 08:31:23 AM
Don't know if I wanna risk it. I'll just have to call quickly :)
Remember to use the call back feature.
United call back feature (http://as00.estara.com/UI/gui.php?donotcache=1201839075925&accountid=20010417&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.continental.com%2Fweb%2Fen-US%2Fcontent%2FContact%2Ftechnical%2Fdefault.aspx&pagetitle=Continental+Airlines+-+continental.com+Support+Contact+Information&template=1178&log1=www.continental.com%2Fweb%2Fen-US%2Fcontent%2Fcontact%2Ftechnical%2Fdefault.aspx&log2=&log3=&calltype=webvoicepop&guiid=43834a54eac25&timestamp=1201839058)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 03, 2013, 10:17:01 AM
Remember to use the call back feature.
United call back feature (http://as00.estara.com/UI/gui.php?donotcache=1201839075925&accountid=20010417&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.continental.com%2Fweb%2Fen-US%2Fcontent%2FContact%2Ftechnical%2Fdefault.aspx&pagetitle=Continental+Airlines+-+continental.com+Support+Contact+Information&template=1178&log1=www.continental.com%2Fweb%2Fen-US%2Fcontent%2Fcontact%2Ftechnical%2Fdefault.aspx&log2=&log3=&calltype=webvoicepop&guiid=43834a54eac25&timestamp=1201839058)

Yeah, but I will likely be overseas when it opens... anyone have them call you back international? Not sure it's even possible.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 03, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Anyone have experience with putting *A partners on hold with US and cancelling the hold.

Do the seats go straight back to inventory?

Any inputs?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on May 05, 2013, 02:32:45 AM
Anyone have experience with putting *A partners on hold with US and cancelling the hold.

Do the seats go straight back to inventory?

Any inputs?
from my experience
I had 3 seats on hold with them I just forgot to book it so it was automatically cancelled and I called numerous times to get those seats again but us only had 1 available. I had to book with ua the other 2 seats.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gsr7615 on May 06, 2013, 10:28:53 PM
hi yesterday DAN spoke in Brooklyn about getting  a reward ticked from united for 10k miles by booking a flight withe in 650 miles and making a stop. how can i get more information on this (like  how can i add a stop) thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 06, 2013, 10:41:28 PM
Search under 'multiple destinations' instead of one way or round trip.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gsr7615 on May 06, 2013, 10:58:45 PM
thanks. can i extended the stop over if yes  for how long
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 06, 2013, 11:01:44 PM
thanks. can i extended the stop over if yes  for how long
I wasn't at the seminar last night, but I think you would need to book it as less than a 4 hour Stop over and then PUTPAC to change it for a later date CMIIAW.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 08, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
You can probably also skip out the second leg if you don's abuse it. For example CLE to IAH is 12.5k however CLE - IAH - NYC is only 10k. So if you want to go to IAH from CLE just add the EWR leg and don't use.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2013, 05:38:29 AM
Quote
Adding, changing or deleting a connection, less than 21 days prior to departure(3)   $75   $50   $25   No fee

I always thought with UA as long as o/d remain the same, there would be no fee, but the above seems to say even only changing routing incurs a fee if it is <21 days.

Have I been mistaken?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 19, 2013, 06:38:10 AM
I always thought with UA as long as o/d remain the same, there would be no fee, but the above seems to say even only changing routing incurs a fee if it is <21 days.

Have I been mistaken?

That is indeed their policy, but they often forget to charge you. Especially if you do hishtadlus to make them forget. ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 19, 2013, 06:54:46 AM
I always thought with UA as long as o/d remain the same, there would be no fee, but the above seems to say even only changing routing incurs a fee if it is <21 days.

Have I been mistaken?
Officially any change <21 days they charge.

If you play around with UA.com you may have some luck  ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 19, 2013, 09:52:51 AM
Finally

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2013/05/19/united-no-longer-deceiving-you-with-lufthansa-award-seats-that-arent-there/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2013, 11:08:24 AM
Finally

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2013/05/19/united-no-longer-deceiving-you-with-lufthansa-award-seats-that-arent-there/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Awful, dreadful news.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 19, 2013, 11:20:05 AM
Awful, dreadful news.

Why?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2013, 12:32:03 PM
Why?
A. As Gary explains.
B. As I've said before the UA ESD was willing to open UA awards seats when phantom LH seats showed on UA.com
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 19, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
A. As Gary explains.
B. As I've said before the UA ESD was willing to open UA awards seats when phantom LH seats showed on UA.com
?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 19, 2013, 12:51:42 PM
?

Electrostatic discharge. ;D
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 19, 2013, 12:54:16 PM
Electrostatic discharge. ;D
I had a few jokes in my mind, but I chose to act like a mature boy.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2013, 01:07:27 PM
Electronic support desk=Callback number.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 19, 2013, 01:13:38 PM
Electronic support desk=Callback number.
I tried with them many times. No luck.
#YouGoliath
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: DP7 on May 23, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
You either need 100 miles or you you need to search for an ANA served route and then you can switch it to Star Alliance.

How do you switch it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 04, 2013, 10:52:17 AM
Anyone having problems with ANA. A lot of flights aren't showing up.

For instance, today there is a direct flight PHL-TLV that is open and it's not showing up on ANA.

It seems like it's mostly US and UA flights.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award upgrades
Post by: MoMo22 on June 11, 2013, 02:55:52 PM
Hi
 what is the best way to upgrade my ticket from economy to business with miles on a Tel Aviv New York ticket
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MAJ on June 20, 2013, 02:04:11 PM
When searching from NYC-tlv  on united how come the stops in turkey only have united flights and not Turkish?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on June 22, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
When searching from NYC-tlv  on united how come the stops in turkey only have united flights and not Turkish?

It depends on when the Star Alliance partner is showing saver/award availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jeckll on June 22, 2013, 11:52:25 PM
This may be a dumb question, or this may be the wrong thread, so forgive me if so in advance!

I am looking to book 2 award tickets on Star Alliance USA-SE Asia. Problem is I have my miles split about 50/50 into UR and MR. Is there a way to "combine" these into one itinerary, either by getting them all into one program or booking the same itinerary on via two separate star partners? If it costs me a little more in fees or miles that's OK as long as it's not exorbitant...THANKS!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 22, 2013, 11:55:48 PM
This may be a dumb question, or this may be the wrong thread, so forgive me if so in advance!

I am looking to book 2 award tickets on Star Alliance USA-SE Asia. Problem is I have my miles split about 50/50 into UR and MR. Is there a way to "combine" these into one itinerary, either by getting them all into one program or booking the same itinerary on via two separate star partners? If it costs me a little more in fees or miles that's OK as long as it's not exorbitant...THANKS!
It really depends on what airlines your flying.

You can't combine points, but you could transfer MR to AC, SQ, ANA which they can put you on the same flights as UA can.

Before you do anything, maybe give a break down on what airlines you're trying to fly and your points balance so we can help you out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jeckll on June 22, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
It really depends on what airlines your flying.

You can't combine points, but you could transfer MR to AC, SQ, ANA which they can put you on the same flights as UA can.

Before you do anything, maybe give a break down on what airlines you're trying to fly and your points balance so we can help you out.
Thanks for that quick response! My dates and even itinerary are not set yet as I'm not looking to travel for about a year. But with award availability generally opening 365-330 days in advance I want to get my ducks in a row ahead of time. So just trying to get a general feel for what I consider to be a rather difficult booking as I would be coming from 2 separate points systems...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 23, 2013, 12:02:12 AM
Thanks for that quick response! My dates and even itinerary are not set yet as I'm not looking to travel for about a year. But with award availability generally opening 365-330 days in advance I want to get my ducks in a row ahead of time. So just trying to get a general feel for what I consider to be a rather difficult booking as I would be coming from 2 separate points systems...
Put it like this.

SQ and ANA charge YQ (size depending on the airline) besides on UA and US.

Aeroplan is half and half (don't have the specifics off hand).

You will need to decide which airlines you are going to be flying and then you can start seeing where you should stock pile.

Best bet is to stock UR and UA since it's the easiest and generally the cheapest miles to use for your trip.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hollawood24 on June 27, 2013, 01:14:13 PM
120k united miles for 2 first class round trip to Jamaica from JFK, good deal???
OR
A little over 1k dollars for 2 economy round trip????
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 27, 2013, 01:25:17 PM
120k united miles for 2 first class round trip to Jamaica from JFK, good deal???
OR
A little over 1k dollars for 2 economy round trip????

Double posting is not allowed on the forums. Sorry.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hollawood24 on June 27, 2013, 01:54:39 PM
Double posting is not allowed on the forums. Sorry.

my bad, didn't know which section to post it  :-[
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: daineseman on June 30, 2013, 06:16:06 PM
I just tried LHR to TLV for 8th July on business. United was returning many of results, but ANA only returned one option.

Is this common?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hocker on July 08, 2013, 06:33:49 PM
So I just joined KVS and since I had a few minutes today I played around a bit, here's my findings:

I was sampling 7/9 TLV-EWR

KVS came up with nothing.
United came up with no saver in C but a few saver options in Y the best was through YYZ with AC85 & UA 3270.
I chanced upon a website http://beta.awardtravelr.com/ and it showed (after a 10 min loading) availability in C on UA85 direct although it didn't indicate whether it was saver or standard. I called up united, lo and behold there was saver available direct.

Anyone ever heard of this website before?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: wierdal832 on July 09, 2013, 08:36:22 PM
how can i book a flight on Lufthansa with united miles
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 09, 2013, 09:25:54 PM
how can i book a flight on Lufthansa with united miles
LH what? Y? J? F?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 09, 2013, 09:26:44 PM
LH what? Y? J? F?

Wait, you're saying you knew that was a question? Even without a "?" at the end? Or knew it was a sentence without a capital? ...anywhere in sight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 09, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Wait, you're saying you knew that was a question? Even without a "?" at the end? Or knew it was a sentence without a capital? ...anywhere in sight?
I'm not getting involved.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 09, 2013, 09:58:47 PM
I'm not getting involved.

Good for you, taking the high road and all  :-X
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on July 09, 2013, 10:50:59 PM
Looking to book a one way pek-ord United flight in business or first with MR or SPG. What's the best way? ANA (with an added yul-lga to make it roundtrip?)? Singapore?
Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on July 10, 2013, 02:20:33 PM
Looking to book a one way pek-ord United flight in business or first with MR or SPG. What's the best way? ANA (with an added yul-lga to make it roundtrip?)? Singapore?
Thanks for your help
Or LH?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on July 10, 2013, 02:25:14 PM
Or LH?
What do they charge?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on July 10, 2013, 02:29:19 PM
What do they charge?
Don't remember exactly, but its less than UA would for domestic premium.
And IIRC, SQ has the same rate as LH for domestic.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yakovwogi on July 11, 2013, 10:18:39 PM
looking to transfer amex to anything that would allow NYC to Venice or Zurich Direct.
I have no idea how to search for availability before choosing where to transfer the points to...Can anyone help please
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hocker on July 11, 2013, 10:32:04 PM
looking to transfer amex to anything that would allow NYC to Venice or Zurich Direct.
I have no idea how to search for availability before choosing where to transfer the points to...Can anyone help please
Yeh, it definitely seems you have no idea how to search. How about taking the class "Searches for dummies"?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yakovwogi on July 11, 2013, 10:38:37 PM
hmm--where were you when I posted in the "need help booking award ticket"  thread?
I could have used your helpful troll comments there
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hocker on July 11, 2013, 11:57:43 PM
hmm--where were you when I posted in the "need help booking award ticket"  thread?
I could have used your helpful troll comments there

So you intentionally posted in the wrong thread?!

P.s. No-one here owes you anything, wait patiently for an answer and if you don't receive one in 3 days bump your post in the same thread. You can always offer a $ or miles incentive which will probably get more people to help you.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on July 12, 2013, 02:55:15 PM
What do they charge?
Don't remember exactly, but its less than UA would for domestic premium.
And IIRC, SQ has the same rate as LH for domestic.
Was looking up something else so I got the answer for this as well:  17k OW.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on July 20, 2013, 11:35:48 PM
How can I search for LH/LX F more than 2 weeks in advance with insufficient miles in my account?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 21, 2013, 12:32:29 AM
How can I search for LH/LX F more than 2 weeks in advance with insufficient miles in my account?
You can search availability with out miles.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on July 21, 2013, 12:38:14 AM
Figured that out, but it sucks away to have to compare a route to the award chart.
Especially taking into account that there are so many rules and/or promos that could significantly change the price.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 21, 2013, 12:55:46 AM
Figured that out, but it sucks away to have to compare a route to the award chart.
Especially taking into account that there are so many rules and/or promos that could significantly change the price.
Know exactly what you mean.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: gevaldig on July 21, 2013, 12:55:44 PM
Can someone pls help me out how to search award availability on miles&more? I opened an account but I don't see where you choose only to show award availability, your help would greatly be appreciated tnx,
Also if I find available award tickets will I be able to call united to book it for me on united's conditions for 60k points?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 28, 2013, 05:18:21 PM
Anyway to call Lufthansa now.

Any call centers open now?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on July 28, 2013, 06:19:11 PM
Call the Australian office
+61-1300-655-727
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on August 04, 2013, 09:38:00 AM
I am looking to book a award flight in feb through United. How long would you wait before the date to book? I do not care for the selection they are showing today.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on August 04, 2013, 09:48:15 AM
Just keep checking everyday.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on August 04, 2013, 10:12:32 AM
Just keep checking everyday.
In your experience have things changed as you get closer? I just noticed 1 of the flights I was looking at became mixed cabin
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on August 04, 2013, 10:16:17 AM
What route are you looking at?

Seats could always potentially open up.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on August 04, 2013, 10:48:28 AM
What route are you looking at?

Seats could always potentially open up.
JFK or NYC to TLV one way Feb 6 or 5th I booked the return through AA on El Al business.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nocknock on August 12, 2013, 02:44:08 PM
Whats the best way to book NYC to BKK?

I have alot MR and SPG?

TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 12, 2013, 07:35:39 PM
Whats the best way to book NYC to BKK?

I have alot MR and SPG?

TIA

There is no best way. With those miles you theoretically could book dozens of routings.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Whywhy on August 15, 2013, 09:59:27 AM
Any reason to why the "use star alliance member airlines" is unavailable by me? Is that due to a lack of miles? Or current status?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on August 19, 2013, 06:12:08 PM
Can I book a US award EWR-TLV<OJ>PHL-EWR?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on August 19, 2013, 07:13:46 PM
Can I book a US award EWR-TLV<OJ>PHL-EWR?
For 80K US?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nocknock on August 20, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
How long does it take to transfer from MR to Cathay Pacific?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on August 20, 2013, 05:29:00 PM

How long does it take to transfer from MR to Cathay Pacific?

Do you realize that Cathay Pacific isn't Star Alliance? Do you realize that your question has nothing to do with Search Tips or the like? ???

Please try searching for the CORRECT thread, you will see that there is much better threads that this should belong in!!!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nocknock on August 20, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
Do you realize that Cathay Pacific isn't Star Alliance? Do you realize that your question has nothing to do with Search Tips or the like? ???

Please try searching for the CORRECT thread, you will see that there is much better threads that this should belong in!!!
WOW!! WOW!! COOL IT!!

Nothing happened just a mistake?

BTW i searched were to post it and I didn't find the rite one. Were would you post it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on August 20, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
WOW!! WOW!! COOL IT!!

Nothing happened just a mistake?

BTW i searched were to post it and I didn't find the rite one. Were would you post it?

Ummm, you should see me when I'm all warmed up. This is me cooling it.  8)

Try posting here - Questions and Help for BEGINNERS! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16069)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nocknock on August 21, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
Ummm, you should see me when I'm all warmed up. This is me cooling it.  8)

Try posting here - Questions and Help for BEGINNERS! (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16069)
UMMMM

You think because you have some kind of status you'r the most knowledgeable and...............
Nobody cares if you warm up it just shows what you are..........
there are some people around here longer than you, more knowledgeable, more active and didn't have any problem......
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Shreknit on August 21, 2013, 07:19:08 PM
UMMMM

You think because you have some kind of status you'r the most knowledgeable and...............
Nobody cares if you warm up it just shows what you are..........
there are some people around here longer than you, more knowledgeable, more active and didn't have any problem......


Chill out chuck helps alot of people around here in these forums show a little respect.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: kracked dude on August 21, 2013, 07:23:49 PM

Chill out chuck helps alot of people around here in these forums show a little respect.
+1 chucks a great contributer to the forums
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: This is who I am on August 21, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
UMMMM

You think because you have some kind of status you'r the most knowledgeable and...............
Nobody cares if you warm up it just shows what you are..........
there are some people around here longer than you, more knowledgeable, more active and didn't have any problem......
I am learning my self , and have new told a number of times That I had posted In the wrong place, or another place has the same topic I just started. It's the way DDF works. The Rules are in place to help out everyone.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hocker on August 21, 2013, 07:59:23 PM
+1 chucks a great contributer to the forums
I am learning my self , and have new told a number of times That I had posted In the wrong place, or another place has the same topic I just started. It's the way DDF works. The Rules are in place to help out everyone.
+2. Now back on topic.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 26, 2013, 02:07:04 AM
Anyone know if SQ collects YQ on LH?

(I imagine yes.)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on August 26, 2013, 06:28:37 AM
Anyone know if SQ collects YQ on LH?

(I imagine yes.)
Yes.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jkhein on August 26, 2013, 06:50:50 AM
I see coach saver award on United for a OS flight, but M&M don't have it, not strange?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on August 26, 2013, 09:41:14 AM
Phantom?
try to book it with UA and see what happens.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 26, 2013, 10:50:45 AM
Yes.

Figured. Thanks.

Looks like I'ma have to pay me some YQ...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Feivish on September 11, 2013, 11:16:26 PM
Can I book a a United flight from NYC-TLV with a 2 day stop in Europe via ANA for 60k?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on September 12, 2013, 01:59:23 PM
Can I book a a United flight from NYC-TLV with a 2 day stop in Europe via ANA for 60k?

One way or roundtrip?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Feivish on September 12, 2013, 04:18:56 PM
Round trip
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on September 15, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
Round trip

The lowest mileage rates for travel on United and USAirways flights without fuel surcharges:
-ANA: 60K coach, 90K business, 140K first.

"Stopovers: ANA allows for 4 stopovers, though each additional flight will add to the fuel surcharges."

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23168 (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23168)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 24, 2013, 12:34:57 PM
When booking ANA one way from TLV to EWR flying on United, i managed to find a United economy flight but it's not on a good date, is there any chance i will find any Economy flights even if united does not show saver economy availability?

Also in the taxes and fees box it says *** any idea what will it be?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 24, 2013, 12:41:33 PM
When booking ANA one way from TLV to EWR flying on United, i managed to find a United economy flight but it's not on a good date, is there any chance i will find any Economy flights even if united does not show saver economy availability?

Extremely unlikely.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: maxmiles on September 29, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
Newbie to the forum here.  have a couple of questions, Wasn't sure if i should post here or in the award ticket thread, so i put it on both  ;).

I'm looking to go from NY-SIN with a stopover in Frankfurt for 2 days via Buis/1st using miles (tons of UR and MR avail). Thus far i found a flight from JFK to FRA for 50k on LH and then from FRA to KUL (Kuala Lumpur) with the stopover in SIN (which i will take out when i call the agent  :)) 2 days later for 62.5k miles also on LH = 112.5k miles, the thing is that there is a flight from JFK- SIN with a LAYOVER in Frankfurt, for 60k miles which is perfect if i can push of the Frankfut flight for another time.

a)Is this possible?
b)Also i found the flights on united, can i book with united miles/ or UR even though there would be no flights on united?
c) as far as the return i was thinking about going on Singapore Air first class for 85k miles,  but its waitlisted- anyone have any experience with being waitlisted? should i just book the buis class which is available?

your help is greatly appreciated.

thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 29, 2013, 10:39:03 AM
Don't give too much hope for SQ waitlist.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chff on September 29, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
Don't give too much hope for SQ waitlist.

Why? I had some I/O space clear
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 29, 2013, 04:39:27 PM
I think chances are very low.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 29, 2013, 05:34:28 PM
They clear all the time. You just cant count on it.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on October 08, 2013, 12:53:55 PM
 How I am suppose to easily differentiate between saver award and expanded saver award flights on United.com in order to book on ANA.com the saver award flights.   I believe you cannot book expanded saver awards flights on ANA.com

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 08, 2013, 01:14:11 PM
True.

Use expert mode.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 08, 2013, 01:17:08 PM
Or just logout when you search.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: notanonymous on October 09, 2013, 01:29:16 AM
I see (on Air Canada's website) reward availability dates for JFK-TLV-JFK on Lufthansa/Turkish or Lufthansa/Austrian. 

The following web sites show:
- On Air Canada, I pay fuel charges. 
- On United, only the JFK-TLV comes up, the TLV-JFK does not show available.
- On Lufthansa, there is no availability.
- On ANA, there is no availability.
- On US Air, they have their own flight, so Lufthansa does not show up.

Any ideas?  Am I missing the obvious?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 09, 2013, 01:30:41 AM
If you see a flight on AC's site but not UA then call UA to book it.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on October 09, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
If you see a flight on AC's site but not UA then call UA to book it.
And for US, you will need to call to book any partner flights.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: notanonymous on October 09, 2013, 01:43:19 AM
If you see a flight on AC's site but not UA then call UA to book it.
Is that my best option, I'll have 2 infants?  I just checked ANA, and I can piece the trip together for 85k miles, jfk-fra, fra-ist, ist-tlv, and back home again.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on October 09, 2013, 02:00:12 AM
Is that my best option, I'll have 2 infants?  I just checked ANA, and I can piece the trip together for 85k miles, jfk-fra, fra-ist, ist-tlv, and back home again.
AC is only $50 for a lap child.

You will need to way out the YQ on AC and lap child on UA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: notanonymous on October 09, 2013, 02:04:27 AM
AC is only $50 for a lap child.

You will need to way out the YQ on AC and lap child on UA.
Thank you.
$606 YQ on AC, I can't imagine UA should be that much for lap.

When calling UA for the return flight that I do not see on their website, how do I word the conversation?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on October 09, 2013, 09:01:23 AM
Just feed them the flight numbers.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: notanonymous on October 09, 2013, 11:54:25 AM
Just feed them the flight numbers.
Thanks.  I figured that out while on the phone with them last night.  The total per passenger taxes, etc was over $150.  While on their website it was $41 (for one-way, the return was not showing up).  Before I could ask the agent 'mai hai', he put me on hold for 10 minutes, so I hung up.  Any ideas why the difference?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on October 09, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
when trying to book award travel on ANA.com I had to register the second passenger and enter their relationship to me.  Does ANA only let you book for passengers registered and do they have to be related to the ANA member??
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on October 09, 2013, 04:02:48 PM
Thanks.  I figured that out while on the phone with them last night.  The total per passenger taxes, etc was over $150.  While on their website it was $41 (for one-way, the return was not showing up).  Before I could ask the agent 'mai hai', he put me on hold for 10 minutes, so I hung up.  Any ideas why the difference?
Not sure why $150, but there's a phone booking fee unless you ask them to waive it.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: notanonymous on October 09, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
Not sure why $150, but there's a phone booking fee unless you ask them to waive it.
That was on top of the $150.  I forgot the exact amount, but IIRC it was around $900 for six passengers (again, besides 25 per person).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on October 10, 2013, 09:00:40 AM
when trying to book award travel on ANA.com I had to register the second passenger and enter their relationship to me.  Does ANA only let you book for passengers registered and do they have to be related to the ANA member??  anybody have this experience?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smiles on October 13, 2013, 06:48:14 PM
Can't seem to find a clear answer to this.

Is there a way to book a one way flight on ANA? I see people have mentioned it's possible but I don't quite understand how.

Also, does ANA charge the standard 10% for a child under 2?

TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on October 16, 2013, 03:05:13 PM
Elementary Question...

Can anyone please tell me the top airline to start my search for in each alliance?

FOR EXAMPLE

Star Alliance -- United.com

One World --

Sky Team --

I am trying to figure out different flight options, but i am a tremendous novice when it comes to actually using my points...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on October 16, 2013, 05:57:25 PM
Has anyone noticed that the wiki it's gone?
Can this be fixed or has the info been deleted?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chff on October 16, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
Has anyone noticed that the wiki it's gone?
Can this be fixed or has the info been deleted?

Which newbie messed it up?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MAJ on October 27, 2013, 09:05:58 AM
when looking to book a last min flight nyc-lhr: united is showing me only united direct, aeroplan is not showing that, but showing swiss which united doesnt have and ana doesnt let me book anything. is this simply a case of me needing to call each airline or are there diff policies for last min award bookings?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: boropark123 on November 09, 2013, 06:47:47 PM
Interesting question....

I am united 1k member with more than enough miles in my account, a friend of mine borrowed a while back 200k miles which he can transfer to my united account from his chase UA, but I don't want since I'm scared of getting A/Aed,
Now i do need now 200k for my upcoming trip, any suggestions how united would let me book the ticket using my account (for the benefits that I'm getting no cancelation and no close in booking fee) but retrieving the points from his united account
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 09, 2013, 06:50:57 PM
A/A refers to a Chase action. And the only one exposed to that would be your friend.

I haven't heard of UA taking any adverse action in your situation barring abuse.

I'd probably have him xfer the miles directly to my UA account.

(That said, he must have been a good friend!)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aj26 on November 09, 2013, 06:51:29 PM
I think your best bet would be transfer from his chase account into your UA account. You don't need to worry
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: aj26 on November 09, 2013, 06:52:01 PM
@ajk you beat me to it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: boropark123 on November 09, 2013, 07:12:23 PM
Problem is i dont have a chase account anymore.... Is it a problem if he transfers his UA to my united?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on November 09, 2013, 07:17:17 PM
Problem is i dont have a chase account anymore.... Is it a problem if he transfers his UA to my united?

You as the recipient will never have an issue.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: boropark123 on November 09, 2013, 07:29:45 PM
How about the sender.... After all he's is still a good friend.... Obviously if i trusted him with 200k.....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: boropark123 on November 09, 2013, 07:30:48 PM
Put it this way, what are the chances? And is there any workaround with united about this?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on November 09, 2013, 08:34:31 PM
Put it this way, what are the chances? And is there any workaround with united about this?

It's considered safe to send to the MILEAGE account of someone else using UR. So your friends shouldn't have a problem if he transfers directly from UR to your United MileagePlus account.

Send UR to the UR account of a non family member or someone not part of your business could result in A/A.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: boropark123 on November 09, 2013, 10:52:38 PM
Got it! Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 18, 2013, 11:18:54 AM
Does UA still show phantom LH F space more than 15 days out?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2013, 11:20:56 AM
NAFAIK.

Also, there have been instances, albeit rare, where it's bookable >15 days out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 18, 2013, 11:32:12 AM
NAFAIK.

Also, there have been instances, albeit rare, where it's bookable >15 days out.
Ah.

I see very decent availability in F for JFK-ICN LH+OZ with a 6 hour layover at the FCT.
All >15 days out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2013, 12:04:55 PM
Ah.

I see very decent availability in F for JFK-ICN LH+OZ with a 6 hour layover at the FCT.
All >15 days out.

Screenshot?

Dates?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 18, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
Screenshot?

Dates?
12/4, 12/9, 12/15, 12/16, 12/28, 12/29.....
Also many dates in Jan.

What's strange is that if you just search JFK-FRA, these flights don't show up.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
LH flight is in J :P

Also, FWIW, OZ's 747 doesn't have the new F.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 18, 2013, 12:28:58 PM
LH flight is in J :P

Also, FWIW, OZ's 747 doesn't have the new F.
Ah didn't see that. So no FCT >:(
Which OZ planes have the new F?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on November 18, 2013, 12:31:21 PM
Wouldn't have fct anyways. Need to be continuing on lh
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 18, 2013, 12:32:02 PM
Wouldn't have fct anyways. Need to be continuing on lh
Don't you need to have a preceding LH F?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on November 18, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
Wouldn't have fct anyways. Need to be continuing on lh
You would have FCT since you have a LH or LX F flight.

You wouldn't get a car.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2013, 12:39:24 PM
Ah didn't see that. So no FCT >:(
Which OZ planes have the new F?

Only JFK<-->ICN.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on November 18, 2013, 12:58:33 PM
You would have FCT since you have a LH or LX F flight.

You wouldn't get a car.
Are you sure? Pretty sure you only get fct access of you have a preceding lh or lx f and your continuing on lh/lx
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on November 18, 2013, 01:14:34 PM
Are you sure? Pretty sure you only get fct access of you have a preceding lh or lx f and your continuing on lh/lx
Not true.

I've said it many times, as long as you have a FC flight that day on LH or LX you get access.

Even if you are not coming from or leaving to a LX or LH F flight.

Please, someone prove me wrong.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on November 18, 2013, 01:22:53 PM
Not true.

I've said it many times, as long as you have a FC flight that day on LH or LX you get access.

Even if you are not coming from or leaving to a LX or LH F flight.

Please, someone prove me wrong.
So yyz-muc-fra-bkk will have access even though the only lh f is yyz-muc and fra-bkk is not even lh. You sure?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on November 18, 2013, 01:38:08 PM
So yyz-muc-fra-bkk will have access even though the only lh f is yyz-muc and fra-bkk is not even lh. You sure?
Yes
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on November 18, 2013, 01:45:23 PM
Yes
And how do you get to the plane? Walk back to the main terminal?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2013, 02:04:21 PM
Yes

You've done it? or someone who has?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on November 18, 2013, 02:06:21 PM
You've done it? or someone who has?
I've heard from first hand experience.

I believe him till I've heard first hand experience that not.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 18, 2013, 02:13:11 PM
At the very minimum, the YYZ-MUC in F must be on the same day as the FRA-XXX flight.

If it isn't, game over.

But I'd like to see people using FCT as an arrivals lounge when not departing on an LH-group flight.

At least according to most reports online, and in the FT Wiki (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles-more-lufthansa-austrian-swiss-other-partners/883108-all-new-fra-f-hon-terminal-fct-faqs.html), your friend was an exception, not the rule.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 20, 2013, 04:07:20 PM
 anyway to search on United.com for nonstop saver award flights only. Whenever I try to limit my search to nonstop flights it also shows standard award flights which I dont want.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 20, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
@MEIR613:

How apropos:

http://thepointsguy.com/2013/11/trip-report-lufthansa-first-class-lounge-frankfurt-terminal-2/

Quote
I hadn’t reviewed the access rules carefully, but figured since I was arriving in First Class on a Lufthansa flight I could get in, but it wasn’t to be.

The “personal assistants” manning the reception desks informed me (sincerely regretfully, I might add) that because I was continuing on Thai that I should go to the First Class lounge in the terminal itself since they would have no way of getting me to my plane. I said I could take care of getting to the plane myself, but they were firm, so I turned back around and walked back to the terminal.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on November 20, 2013, 07:21:41 PM
Are there any close in fees to book United flights in the USA using Miles and More points?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on November 20, 2013, 07:54:57 PM
Are there any close in fees to book United flights in the USA using Miles and More points?
No.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on November 20, 2013, 10:21:51 PM
No.

And do connections add to the cost of the award?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2013, 10:50:00 PM
Lol.
"since they would have no way of getting me to my plane."
How about the same way you'll get there after being denied lounge access :D
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on November 20, 2013, 10:53:08 PM
Lol.
"since they would have no way of getting me to my plane."
How about the same way you'll get there after being denied lounge access :D
They don't think like that in fct, there is only one way to get to the plane
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 21, 2013, 09:39:11 AM
anyway to search on United.com for nonstop saver award flights only. Whenever I try to limit my search to nonstop flights it also shows standard award flights which I dont want.
does anybody know if this can be done?? When searching ANA for united flights the best thing is to first check United .com for saver award flights.  Anyway to limit search on United.com to nonstop saver award flights only so i dont have to sift through standard award nonstop flighst as well
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2013, 10:59:37 AM
does anybody know if this can be done?? When searching ANA for united flights the best thing is to first check United .com for saver award flights.  Anyway to limit search on United.com to nonstop saver award flights only so i dont have to sift through standard award nonstop flighst as well

From Dan:

Quote
Note that if you search for a Monday or any day without nonstop award availability then United.com will say that no nonstop flights could be found and the calendar will not reflect nonstop availability. To get the United.com award calendar to only reflect nonstop availability only you’ll need to first search and find a date with nonstop award availability.

Or spelled out a bit more:

http://milevalue.com/tricking-united-coms-award-calendar/
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 21, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
From Dan:

Or spelled out a bit more:

http://milevalue.com/tricking-united-coms-award-calendar/

My question was not how to display nonstop flights.  My question was how to get United.com to display nonstop saver awards flights so I know those will be available on ANA.  Currently on United.com when you search nonstop flights it will display days with standard award flights as well and then you have to sift through each day to see if saver awards are also available
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2013, 01:37:01 PM
Not true.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on November 21, 2013, 02:00:58 PM
Not true.

The article you referenced agrees with davidd75
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 21, 2013, 02:14:49 PM
Not true.
whats not true ???
I was mainly asking a question not making a statement

I am trying to figure how to narrow search to economy nonstop flights on United.com.  Just tried now and I don't see how to do it without out going through each date thats marked in yellow or green
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2013, 02:30:30 PM
Ah, I misunderstood.

No possible way.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2013, 03:26:56 PM
Ah, I misunderstood.

No possible way.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not so sure what you're asking.

But:

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 21, 2013, 03:33:04 PM
First find a date - any date - that does have a nonstop saver flight. Then go back to the United homepage again, and start your search over. Search for specifically that date, and check off "Nonstop flights only". On the following page, look at the calendar; dates that are green or yellow will have nonstop saver economy flights; dates that are blue or white will not.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 22, 2013, 08:50:26 AM
First find a date - any date - that does have a nonstop saver flight. Then go back to the United homepage again, and start your search over. Search for specifically that date, and check off "Nonstop flights only". On the following page, look at the calendar; dates that are green or yellow will have nonstop saver economy flights; dates that are blue or white will not.
Thank you! it worked!

But I never new United had such poor availability on nonstop saver economy flights.  There was one day in Nov, no days in Dec,  a couple or three days in Jan and Feb and nothing for March, April, May, June :(

Very hard anymore to find nonstop award flights was it always like this? or will they open up more seats for May?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on November 24, 2013, 11:13:25 AM
So is there anyway to book a United ticket using miles and more on a Sunday?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sb5917 on November 24, 2013, 11:30:22 AM
2/3 ewr-Bru available on united.com but not on Ana ???
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 24, 2013, 11:44:14 AM
Thank you! it worked!

But I never new United had such poor availability on nonstop saver economy flights.  There was one day in Nov, no days in Dec,  a couple or three days in Jan and Feb and nothing for March, April, May, June :(

Very hard anymore to find nonstop award flights was it always like this? or will they open up more seats for May?

^ proof he didn't read my initial response or the post to which I linked ::)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 24, 2013, 01:37:16 PM
Can someone confirm for me that there is no space on 12/1 from CLE-ORD? I found a great ANA F for my parents, and it would be a real pain if this short flight messed it up.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 24, 2013, 01:38:30 PM
Can someone confirm for me that there is no space on 12/1 from CLE-ORD? I found a great ANA F for my parents, and it would be a real pain if this short flight messed it up.

United.com?
ANA.com?
EF?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 24, 2013, 01:42:55 PM
United.com?
ANA.com?
EF?
EF is down for UA I thought, and my other 2 accounts aren't working.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 24, 2013, 01:54:04 PM
Mouth meet spoon:

(http://gyazo.com/3b49edede65a461b14bac1d80515c675.png)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on November 24, 2013, 02:00:56 PM
Mouth meet spoon:

(http://gyazo.com/3b49edede65a461b14bac1d80515c675.png)
Chulent please
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on November 24, 2013, 02:11:06 PM
Can someone confirm for me that there is no space on 12/1 from CLE-ORD? I found a great ANA F for my parents, and it would be a real pain if this short flight messed it up.

Avios to the rescue?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 24, 2013, 02:11:17 PM
@AJK,
Shockingly enough, that was the first, second, and third place I checked. My post was a shocked response to seeing no availability, and hoping that somehow, I was incorrect.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 24, 2013, 02:12:31 PM
@AJK,
Shockingly enough, that was the first, second, and third place I checked. My post was a shocked response to seeing no availability, and hoping that somehow, I was incorrect.

EF is down for UA I thought, and my other 2 accounts aren't working.

We seemed to have had a misunderstanding with the spoon.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on November 24, 2013, 02:17:20 PM
Can someone confirm for me that there is no space on 12/1 from CLE-ORD? I found a great ANA F for my parents, and it would be a real pain if this short flight messed it up.

There are two seats on UA371 at standard award level.:

(http://i.imgur.com/2rVzYTi.png)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 24, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
We seemed to have had a misunderstanding with the spoon.
I'm Israeli, and the English of mine has never been my strong point. Please be patient with me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 25, 2013, 04:29:09 PM
^ proof he didn't read my initial response or the post to which I linked ::)

your initial response nor the post you referred me to explained  how to search nonstop saver awards only.  The post and response focused on nonstop flights.

Anyway to move on is this typical to have such poor availability  for saver award economy nonstop flights on United.com.  Not one date from March to June ???
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 25, 2013, 04:35:10 PM
Yes, I guess I could have pointed out that the colors (or the lack thereof) indicate saver availability, but I assumed (obviously incorrectly) that that was common knowledge.

Another obvious tidbit for thought: Both my post and the post it linked to discussed ONLY saver awards.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 25, 2013, 04:37:42 PM
UA releases seats much closer in than that.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dirah on November 26, 2013, 08:56:22 AM
Does UA block SQ coach?
SQ25 is not available for any redemptions on any date.
I find it hard to believe that this is on SQ's end of things...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 26, 2013, 09:00:11 AM
UA releases seats much closer in than that.

about 2 months before planned departure date? even in the summer?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 26, 2013, 09:15:04 AM
Yes, I guess I could have pointed out that the colors (or the lack thereof) indicate saver availability, but I assumed (obviously incorrectly) that that was common knowledge.

Another obvious tidbit for thought: Both my post and the post it linked to discussed ONLY saver awards.
???there seems to be some misunderstanding.  The quote you sent me from Dan does not even mention the word SAVER and the article you sent me actually discusses Standard awards(I just reread article)

Let me try and explain again.   The colors may indicate saver award space but they wont be nonstop flights even if you check off nonstop flights because there might not be any flights of this nature available.  Instead United will display nonstop STANDARD award flights and connecting SAVER award flights.   What I was trying to do was have United display only nonstop saver awards which wont happen unless you find the exact date that has both a nonstop and saver award flight and then search from that date
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 26, 2013, 01:06:58 PM
???there seems to be some misunderstanding.  The quote you sent me from Dan does not even mention the word SAVER and the article you sent me actually discusses Standard awards(I just reread article)

Let me try and explain again.   The colors may indicate saver award space but they wont be nonstop flights even if you check off nonstop flights because there might not be any flights of this nature available.  Instead United will display nonstop STANDARD award flights and connecting SAVER award flights.   What I was trying to do was have United display only nonstop saver awards which wont happen unless you find the exact date that has both a nonstop and saver award flight and then search from that date

And I quote (http://milevalue.com/tricking-united-coms-award-calendar/):

Quote
…you can ask united.com to return only direct results. I use this option all the time. Whether I want a direct flight for convenience, or I am searching segment-by-segment for a dream business class product, it is very useful.

But it has a major flaw. If you search a direct flight, and the direct flight that day doesn’t have award space, then the calendar won’t show you what days the direct flight does have award space.

...

This is where you trick united.com into displaying the calendar with only direct flights on it. To do that, you need to find a day that does have direct flight award space.

The bottom of the page lets you re-search. I search for a date that is likely to have award space. I know that winter is off peak to Europe, so Lufthansa releases more seats, so I searched a date in February, again checking the Nonstop box.

I picked a winner. There is award space that day on the direct flight. Of course, we want to fly in June not February, but now the calendar is showing space only on the direct flight and we can easily move the calendar’s dates.

June doesn’t have any award space. This trick can’t solve that, but it does let us know that without having to search every day in June individually. And we can see that there is space on the direct flight the last week of May in business class (blue) and economy the week before (yellow).

...

Recap:

It’s a bummer we have to trick united.com into showing direct-flight availability only on its calendar in some case, but that is the current state of things. When you run into the problem, search for direct-flight availability on a likely date in the off peak season.

When you find one date with availability in any cabin, you can get the calendar to display direct-only availability by searching the date that has availability with the Nonstop Only box checked. Once you have the calendar displaying the flight you want, you can toggle to find the months you want.


Despite this going back and forth for a dozen or so posts, the answer to your question, as I maintained all along and have now illustrated in detail, was in my very first response.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:06:58 PM
UA releases seats much closer in than that.
Dan, do you have any experience w/ UA opening up seats ex-CLE close to the date? 12/1 is showing an incredible death of space to all *A hubs except for YYZ.
ORD and PHL would be great.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 26, 2013, 02:14:50 PM
Dan, do you have any experience w/ UA opening up seats ex-CLE close to the date? 12/1 is showing an incredible death of space to all *A hubs except for YYZ.
ORD and PHL would be great.
If there are rev seats for sale it'll open.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:16:22 PM
If there are rev seats for sale it'll open.
How soon? It's the first leg of a Thailand trip for family and I can't wait till the last moment.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 26, 2013, 02:18:31 PM
How soon? It's the first leg of a Thailand trip for family and I can't wait till the last moment.
Prob within 24.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:43:41 PM
Prob within 24.
within 24 hrs of now, or of the flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 26, 2013, 02:46:44 PM
Obv flight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:50:17 PM
Obv flight.
Obvious to you, but not to those who operate at a slower speed than you.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on November 26, 2013, 02:51:32 PM
Obvious to you, but not to those who operate at a slower speed than you.
24 hours to flight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 26, 2013, 02:53:08 PM
Obvious to you, but not to those who operate at a slower speed than you.

Drago, I spent two years of my life trying to keep up with you.

Don't try and turn the tables, papi.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 03:08:45 PM
24 hours to flight.
Thanks!

Drago, I spent two years of my life trying to keep up with you.

Don't try and turn the tables, papi.
The times are a' changin my friend. You're a sharp lawyer, and I'm a slodgy gov employee  :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 26, 2013, 04:17:15 PM
UA releases seats much closer in than that.

from years past you think there is a chance there will be nonstop economy saver award seats for May and June?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 26, 2013, 04:30:01 PM
from years past you think there is a chance there will be nonstop economy saver award seats for May and June?

I'd link you to a thread discussing that, but well, we know how that will end :P
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on November 27, 2013, 09:10:46 AM
I'd link you to a thread discussing that, but well, we know how that will end :P
  You  can refer me to the link and there wont be any going back and forth but when you state that article discusses ONLY saver awards when it clearly does not then  there was some back and forth. My point still stands that I wanted to know how to search a COMBO of nonstop and saver and your links and advice revolved around nonstop flights.  But thanks for links and advice I do appreciate it but leave the tongue and cheek off  :P no pun intended :)

 

\
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on November 27, 2013, 12:56:28 PM
I'm looking to book a flight pesach BZ using AMEX (ANA) points.
I am having trouble finding the following legs using ANA search engine;
3/18-23 TLV-LHR
LHR-CDG
5/4ish AMS-TLV
etc
I guess my q is if I find on other search engines is there way to book on ANA, (I know I can book ANA on United what about vice versa?)?
If yes where to look?
and is there somewhere I can find all *A flights paths that would be bookable on ANA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Kabrams1618 on November 28, 2013, 09:16:52 AM
Most basic of questions
How do I actually go about using my points to get a ticket from a partner airline?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on November 28, 2013, 09:36:28 AM
Which miles? Which airline? Which route?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hertzinstl on November 28, 2013, 09:40:46 AM
Call the airline whose miles you're redeeming
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Kabrams1618 on November 28, 2013, 09:46:09 AM
In general,
I have usair miles and ba miles, I know 2 different alliances.
 I plan to use each set of miles with their partner airlines, I just do not know how to go about he process.  For example if I want to book a swiss air flight using my usair points or if I want to book a iberia flight  with my british air points.  I will be starting in israel
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on November 28, 2013, 09:48:26 AM
In general,
I have usair miles and ba miles, I know 2 different alliances.
 I plan to use each set of miles with their partner airlines, I just do not know how to go about he process.  For example if I want to book a swiss air flight using my usair points or if I want to book a iberia flight  with my british air points.  I will be starting in israel
US, you need to call US to redeem on partners.

BA, you can book most partners online and the rest that don't show up online, you need to call BA.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jbkr101 on November 28, 2013, 02:21:05 PM
i need a flight from cle to ric mon dec 2 right now there is only standard award availabe when does ua  release saver awards and how consistent are they
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on November 28, 2013, 06:55:13 PM
Which are the best *A business class for Europe-US and what routes do they fly?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on November 28, 2013, 08:40:55 PM
EK to MXP
SQ to FRA
LX to ZRH
LH to FRA/MUC
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on November 28, 2013, 08:57:47 PM
EK to MXP
*A...I wish
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on November 28, 2013, 09:02:47 PM
Oh, didn't notice he asked specifically for *A.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on November 28, 2013, 11:41:16 PM
Does anyone know why every time I try to search for flights on ANA they won't let me search for star alliance only their own flights? the "use star alliance" tab is not clickable?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on November 29, 2013, 12:19:34 AM
Did you bother reading the first post in this thread?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on November 29, 2013, 01:47:13 AM
SQ to FRA
LX to ZRH
LH to FRA/MUC
Where do they fly from in the US? 
Also are AC (I can do Canada too) or UA any good?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on November 29, 2013, 09:06:18 AM
They all fly from NyC, some also fly from IAD, LAX, ORD, IAH etc.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on December 01, 2013, 08:55:07 AM
If I book now on ANA and availability opens up (on SQ or whatever) can I change?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 02, 2013, 07:55:07 AM
If there are rev seats for sale it'll open.
I'm waiting on space to open on EWR-TLV in J on UA on today's nonstops. The fare classes show 7 rev seats for sale as well as 7 seats in R. I really hope it opens up, over the last week or so, space hasn't been opening within 24 hrs even though there are rev seats for sale up until takeoff.
Are they selling cheap upgrades or something like that?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: avremie on December 03, 2013, 09:51:50 PM

http://www.theonion.com/articles/airline-part-of-something-called-star-alliance,34185/
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 05, 2013, 06:45:45 AM
What is the best site for setting *A alerts now that EF is dead?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ajs625 on December 08, 2013, 08:09:30 AM
I was searching for LH F or J award availability on UA and when I made the destination direct(eg nyc-tlv) there was only economy available but, when I did the same destination via muti-city(eg nyc-lhr-tlv) and adding a destination there was J availability. Is there a way to book the J seats without going muti-city?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on December 08, 2013, 08:48:06 AM
I have a biz ticket on UA w/ one leg in economy, and I'm changing it now a week b/f the flight to be in Biz. UA is telling me there is a 75 fee. Seems to be incorrect. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: creditor on December 08, 2013, 09:05:48 AM
I have a biz ticket on UA w/ one leg in economy, and I'm changing it now a week b/f the flight to be in Biz. UA is telling me there is a 75 fee. Seems to be incorrect. Thoughts?
I think it doesn't make sense. but I'm sure you tried to HUCA.

can you do the change over the phone only or online also ? if yes I might be able to help
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on December 08, 2013, 09:39:52 AM
I have a biz ticket on UA w/ one leg in economy, and I'm changing it now a week b/f the flight to be in Biz. UA is telling me there is a 75 fee. Seems to be incorrect. Thoughts?

Change it online for only $50.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 08, 2013, 10:09:35 AM
I was searching for LH F or J award availability on UA and when I made the destination direct(eg nyc-tlv) there was only economy available but, when I did the same destination via muti-city(eg nyc-lhr-tlv) and adding a destination there was J availability. Is there a way to book the J seats without going muti-city?
Sounds like you are searching different routes so it makes sense that the availability is different.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: creditor on December 08, 2013, 11:18:45 AM
Change it online for only $50.
drago. if you want and can change it online, shoot me a PM....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on December 09, 2013, 08:24:11 AM
drago. if you want and can change it online, shoot me a PM....
Thanks for the offer.
We are already on the vacation, I didn't want to spend the time HUCAing (didn't see your offer till it was too late), and my parents can afford it.  :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on December 12, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
Just needed SQ to long sell a LX flight that was showing on UA, ANA, AC, KVS.

#justsaying
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on December 12, 2013, 02:00:39 PM
Just needed SQ to long sell a LX flight that was showing on UA, ANA, AC, KVS.

#justsaying
Its easier to book with them a LH flight - not showing on UA.com (blocked for partners) than a UA flight available in UA saver.

#PakistaniReps
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chff on December 12, 2013, 05:16:57 PM
SQ reps are in Singapore.
UA saver is sometimes (most...) In I"N".
SQ has a special deal with M&M regarding their premium space (SQ can book LH F and MM SQ Bus).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chff on December 12, 2013, 05:17:39 PM
From Flyer talk

Heads Up: SQ Awards Booked Through Reservations Starting 13DEC
Hi everyone,

I wanted to give you an early heads up about an upcoming change to the Star partner award availability you see displayed online. Singapore Airlines and United have agreed to remove Singapore Airlines inventory from our award flight search results on united.com and on the United Mobile App. This will take effect starting tomorrow, December 13, You will still to be able to book and change award reservations involving Singapore Airlines by calling our reservations lines.

Please let me know if you have any clarifying questions, and I’ll do my best to answer them.

Aaron Goldberg
Sr. Manager - Customer Experience Planning
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 12, 2013, 09:21:35 PM
Wth?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on December 19, 2013, 07:57:48 AM
Can i book an award flight on united from NYC-YUL and cancel if i want and ill get back my miles?

If not is there a way to do it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 19, 2013, 08:01:09 AM
Can i book an award flight on united from NYC-YUL and cancel if i want and ill get back my miles?

If not is there a way to do it?
Within 24 hours for no charge. After 24 hours, there is a $200 redeposit fee unless you have elite status.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on December 19, 2013, 08:14:49 AM
Is there an option booking on ANA one way? cant find this option!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on December 19, 2013, 08:15:43 AM
Is there an option booking on ANA one way? cant find this option!
No.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on December 19, 2013, 08:17:01 AM
No.
:o those chines!! ::)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 19, 2013, 08:19:07 AM
No.
Aren't there workarounds?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on December 19, 2013, 08:20:15 AM
Aren't there workarounds?
He asked a simple question, I gave a simple answer.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on December 19, 2013, 08:36:47 AM
He asked a simple question, I gave a simple answer.
Ok so what are the workarounds?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 19, 2013, 11:23:26 AM
Ok so what are the workarounds?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=22541.msg351005#msg351005
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: boropark123 on December 19, 2013, 03:36:52 PM
Any workaround to get a united oneway with a stop?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on December 19, 2013, 03:55:59 PM
Any workaround to get a united oneway with a stop?
Yes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: boropark123 on December 19, 2013, 04:23:57 PM

Yes.
care to share? Cant find it anywhere on the forums.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on December 19, 2013, 10:12:55 PM
How many miles is ANA NYC-LHR in coach?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on December 19, 2013, 10:44:02 PM
38K: http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/28060
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on December 19, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
That's one way?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on December 19, 2013, 11:18:05 PM
No, don't be so lazy, read the post.
Or do it when your kid is crying.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on December 20, 2013, 09:06:13 AM
I'm not close to lazy.
I was on WAP so link was not clickable. BB was fine last night...
Thanks anyway, your continuing help will always be remembered.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2013, 09:38:10 AM
That's what's great about WAP. Quick browsing and just click full version for links.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on December 24, 2013, 05:50:50 PM
whats the best website to use to look for award nonstop US airways flights to tel aviv from Phil so i can plug in the dates with ANA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on December 24, 2013, 06:03:02 PM

whats the best website to use to look for award nonstop US airways flights to tel aviv from Phil so i can plug in the dates with ANA

Why not us airways website?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: davidd75 on December 26, 2013, 09:00:34 AM
Why not us airways website?

which flights on US airways will show up on ANA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SPLP on December 29, 2013, 06:16:12 AM
I was told could only book and fly U S AIR on star alliance up to march 31 by 2  united  csr's-- U S air told me -- march 31 is last day to book --but-- can travel after march 31

on United site -- see many flights on U S Air past march 31 --  Question --since official announcement  last week has anyone been able to ticket a  U S Air flt on united for travel after march 31

usually the U S Air csr are not that knowledgeable -- anyone know anything---- I need to change some tickets but do not want to start if can not book U S Air  after march 31
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Wolf on December 29, 2013, 12:05:23 PM
I have a connecting flight to Poland that the second leg doesn't have availability on business so it doesn't give me the entire flight as an option, only if I do multi city but then they charge me 12500 for the second flight in economy.

Is there a possibility to book the first seg in bz and second in economy witout doing multi?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on December 29, 2013, 12:08:20 PM

I have a connecting flight to Poland that the second leg doesn't have availability on business so it doesn't give me the entire flight as an option, only if I do multi city but then they charge me 12500 for the second flight in economy.

Is there a possibility to book the first seg in bz and second in economy witout doing multi?

Using whose miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Wolf on December 29, 2013, 12:10:54 PM
Using whose miles?
United
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on December 29, 2013, 12:28:11 PM
PUTPAC
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jkhein on December 29, 2013, 05:23:09 PM
how is TK availability with M&M? and what are fuel charges TLV-NYC? any tips to find availability online?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on December 29, 2013, 06:34:26 PM
how is TK availability with M&M? and what are fuel charges TLV-NYC? any tips to find availability online?
I don't believe they have extra availability on M&M and it will be a 3 region award (92k in J OW).

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SPLP on December 30, 2013, 03:23:33 AM
I was told could only book and fly U S AIR on star alliance up to march 31 by 2  united  csr's-- U S air told me -- march 31 is last day to book --but-- can travel after march 31

on United site -- see many flights on U S Air past march 31 --  Question --since official announcement  last week has anyone been able to ticket a  U S Air flt on united for travel after march 31

usually the U S Air csr are not that knowledgeable -- anyone know anything---- I need to change some tickets but do not want to start if can not book U S Air  after march 31

bump
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2013, 04:25:14 AM
bump

See here (http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/12/united-airlines-issues-timetable-for-ending-us-airways-partnership/)

Quote from: http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2013/12/united-airlines-issues-timetable-for-ending-us-airways-partnership/
United Airlines issued a statement to its customers late Monday providing a schedule for the wind-down of its relationship with US Airways.  US Airways consummated its merger with American Airlines on Monday and will exit its partnership with United as well as its membership in Star Alliance on March 30, 2014.

The Chicago-based airline said it will be “business as usual” until the partnership ends although United appears to have already stopped selling US Airways-operated codeshares. (US Airways also appears to have stopped selling United-operated codeshares.)

All current United tickets issued for travel on US Airways will be honored.  MileagePlus members can book award travel on US Airways using MileagePlus miles through March 30, for any travel dates that are available, including those beyond March 30.

MileagePlus members will continue to earn award miles, Premier qualifying miles, Premier qualifying segments, and Premier qualifying dollars on US Airways flights through March 30.

In addition, United Club members and travelers flying on an international United flight in business or first class can access the US Airways Club through March 30.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SPLP on December 30, 2013, 09:12:21 AM
chucksterace--- THANKS :)

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2013, 09:26:42 AM

chucksterace--- THANKS :)

Anytime
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on January 01, 2014, 04:42:18 PM
I have a confirmed seat TLV FRA FRA PHL on LH in biz on 01/06. I'm trying to switch the 2nd leg to first class JFK. United is saying can't do bec it's s married ticket and no more seats left on TLV FRA so don't want to cancel and rebook. Does anyone have ideas on how to change ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on January 01, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
I have a confirmed seat TLV FRA FRA PHL on LH in biz on 01/06. I'm trying to switch the 2nd leg to first class JFK. United is saying can't do bec it's s married ticket and no more seats left on TLV FRA so don't want to cancel and rebook. Does anyone have ideas on how to change ?
HUCA

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on January 01, 2014, 05:14:01 PM
HUCA
Did that like 6 times already.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on January 01, 2014, 05:30:16 PM

Did that like 6 times already.

Only six. I had tickets where I called at least 10 times. Fun game
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cashman on January 01, 2014, 05:43:56 PM
Only six. I had tickets where I called at least 10 times. Fun game
okay will let you know what happens.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: seemorehabs on January 06, 2014, 08:53:59 AM
Gold member on united and I fly from tlv to usa often, 2 questions: 1- whats the best way to book flights, paid and then upgrade?  2- will elal match my status and how? (hard part will be to maintain them both at gold this year)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ajs625 on January 06, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
Is it a total waste of money to book SIN-LHR today on SQ in F with saver availability and pay the YQ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 06, 2014, 11:22:43 PM
No.

(Especially if it's actually SQ R and you had a typo...)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ajs625 on January 06, 2014, 11:31:28 PM
What would be be the best way to get First/suites on SQ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 06, 2014, 11:40:30 PM
Only way to get SQ R is with Krisflyer miles.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Feivish on January 07, 2014, 08:27:24 AM
How can I know the fuel and surcharges ANA will charge for a flight?
For example I have searched on ANA for a flight from CDG-YYZ on air canada and it only shows me how many miles I need.
Does that mean that there are no other fees?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ajs625 on January 07, 2014, 09:12:25 PM
Per this SQ post http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/28330, it says that you can reserve award tickets without having the miles in your account. I called up and tried to do so and they said they cannot do so. How do I reserve an award ticket on SQ without the correct amount of miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on January 07, 2014, 09:38:48 PM
Per this SQ post http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/28330, it says that you can reserve award tickets without having the miles in your account. I called up and tried to do so and they said they cannot do so. How do I reserve an award ticket on SQ without the correct amount of miles?
There are 1) formal rules, and 2) rules for the people who know how to engage in a nice phone conversation with a Pakistani girl.

In category #1 you must have at least a certain percentage of miles needed in your account. And its only for SQ operated flights.
I don't remember the exact percentage of miles you'd need as I 'm in category #2.

In category #2, you can even hold a partner award, even with 0 miles in your account.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ajs625 on January 07, 2014, 10:19:03 PM
Basically, HUCA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on January 07, 2014, 10:36:51 PM
Basically, HUCA
Not what I said.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on January 07, 2014, 11:55:41 PM
There are 1) formal rules, and 2) rules for the people who know how to engage in a nice phone conversation with a Pakistani girl.

In category #1 you must have at least a certain percentage of miles needed in your account. And its only for SQ operated flights.
I don't remember the exact percentage of miles you'd need as I 'm in category #2.

In category #2, you can even hold a partner award, even with 0 miles in your account.
Partner is very hard to do, but it is possible.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rivkao on January 08, 2014, 12:41:20 AM
How do I book a united domestic ticket thru Lufthansa? They're not allowing me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on January 08, 2014, 12:56:56 AM
@Meir
Did it twice recently with one phone call. Didn't even HUCA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on January 08, 2014, 01:08:53 AM
@Meir
Did it twice recently with one phone call. Didn't even HUCA.
Maybe they changed their policy.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on January 08, 2014, 01:23:29 AM
@Meir
Did it twice recently with one phone call. Didn't even HUCA.
How long is the hold?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on January 08, 2014, 08:29:53 AM
I don't know. I didn't need it for more than 24 hours. Was waiting for amex transfer to post.
It's not the official policy.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 08, 2014, 02:43:47 PM
What's the best option for a flight leaving YYZ to TLV after pesach and return probably one year later? I've got aeroplan points and amex. Any suggestions? Is worth doing a one way or round trip and once the return dates start posting change the return. TIA

Also does it pay to buy a one way?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rots5 on January 08, 2014, 03:00:12 PM
What's the best option for a flight leaving YYZ to TLV after pesach and return probably one year later? I've got aeroplan points and amex. Any suggestions? Is worth doing a one way or round trip and once the return dates start posting change the return. TIA

Also does it pay to buy a one way?
Well if you want to fly united, then book now both ways and then youll switch, this way youll lock in the 40/60...

Maybe transfer your Amex to ANA and book a saver eco 60k rt
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Excalibur on January 09, 2014, 07:31:54 AM
Looking to book ow award ticket economy on United

Any time in the future I'll change the date after I book it

Jfk-ewr with a stopover in lax. Any advice would be appreciated 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on January 09, 2014, 09:21:14 PM
Well if you want to fly united, then book now both ways and then youll switch, this way youll lock in the 40/60...

Maybe transfer your Amex to ANA and book a saver eco 60k rt
the free date changes are even once you begin the trip? Cause if I book now with ANA for departure after pesach, I can't yet book my return cause its in over a year. Also if I book business should I go UA or US? Which one is better? TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PETERP on January 09, 2014, 10:21:26 PM
@Meir
Did it twice recently with one phone call. Didn't even HUCA.

Meshuggy you are such a smooth talker .  :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on January 10, 2014, 08:44:42 AM
Now I blush
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2014, 12:00:10 AM
When I am looking on UA NYC-LHR they wonna charge me about $300 in charges when booking in J, does this make sense?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on January 13, 2014, 12:10:34 AM
When I am looking on UA NYC-LHR they wonna charge me about $300 in charges when booking in J, does this make sense?
yes!
Flying out of lhr in business is costly
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hudi on January 15, 2014, 11:22:48 PM
Need some help if anyone is willing:

I'm trying to book one of the 90k RT in business to North Aisa and here is my itinerary:

1. YYZ - TPE - HKG on EVA Air 3 day stopover
2. Using flying blue miles on bangkok air HKG - USM 4 days USM - CNX 5 day stopover.
3. CNX - BKK (one day stopover) - TPE - LAX -YYZ

The first agent said 90k but got disconnected the second (3rd and 4th) agent said because the return is from South Asia it's 120k.

Before I continue HUCAing are there any routing suggestions I should change to increase the likelihood of the 90K going through?

Thx!

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yaakov on January 16, 2014, 12:32:01 PM
does this make sense i want a flight from fra to jfk. when i search this segment it comes up no availability on Lufthansa flight 400 but when i search zhr to jfk it has availability with a stop in fra with the connecting flight slight 400 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 12:47:15 PM
Need some help if anyone is willing:

I'm trying to book one of the 90k RT in business to North Aisa and here is my itinerary:

1. YYZ - TPE - HKG on EVA Air 3 day stopover
2. Using flying blue miles on bangkok air HKG - USM 4 days USM - CNX 5 day stopover.
3. CNX - BKK (one day stopover) - TPE - LAX -YYZ

The first agent said 90k but got disconnected the second (3rd and 4th) agent said because the return is from South Asia it's 120k.

Before I continue HUCAing are there any routing suggestions I should change to increase the likelihood of the 90K going through?

Thx!

On US, you can only one have 1 stopover OR one open jaw.

You have a stopover AND an open jaw (unless of course you're not in BKK for 24 hours or more and you incorrectly termed it a stopover).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hudi on January 16, 2014, 02:46:29 PM
On US, you can only one have 1 stopover OR one open jaw.

You have a stopover AND an open jaw (unless of course you're not in BKK for 24 hours or more and you incorrectly termed it a stopover).

Sorry my bad. BKK is less than 24 hours.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 03:10:22 PM
HUCA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hudi on January 16, 2014, 03:14:40 PM
HUCA

Thanks! Do you think it will help if I add a leg from HKG to CNX? (even though I don't really need it.)
Title: Booking award ticket
Post by: yls2011 on January 24, 2014, 01:28:11 PM
I need to book 2 business class tickets from USA to Europe with multiple less than 24 hour layovers in Europe. I only have enough miles for one ticket currently. I want to book one ticket before the deval to lock in at least one Ticket. I plan to book a ticket operated by united only, as it will reduce the amount of miles required for the second ticket after the devaluation. My question is, as united does not operate flights within Europe, will the ticket issued after the deval be charged the amount of miles for a partner ticket (140,000)? How will the deval change the free layovers within 24 hours on a partner airline?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 25, 2014, 04:14:31 PM
Looking to book TLV-SIN, preferably in J in late February.
I'm having zero luck doing a simple search on UA.
Any tips for which carriers would have availability w/o waiting to the last minute?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 25, 2014, 10:57:01 PM
Looking to book TLV-SIN, preferably in J in late February.
I'm having zero luck doing a simple search on UA.
Any tips for which carriers would have availability w/o waiting to the last minute?
Are you looking specifically for *A?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Drago on January 26, 2014, 05:51:03 AM
Are you looking specifically for *A?
I guess not, but I need to help the person buy the miles for the flight, and figured that UA was simple.
What else do you see?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
I guess not, but I need to help the person buy the miles for the flight, and figured that UA was simple.
What else do you see?
I he doesnt mind a stop over i saw a lot of options, Korean usually haves good availability, did you search?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: yls2011 on January 28, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
What will the fee be for booking a one-way business class ticket to Europe from USA through United before Feb. 1 and changing it to a roundtrip on a partner airline to Europe from USA after Feb. 1?
Please help! Trying to maximize miles!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2014, 11:07:36 AM
Switching to a partner would likely result in a reprice.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 03, 2014, 09:44:40 PM
Can I book domestic UA flights on Singapore, online? or do I have to PUTPAC?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 03, 2014, 09:45:12 PM
PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on February 10, 2014, 10:26:55 PM
How would I set up an ANA TLV-NYC serch for oneway, what would be a good return (XXX-XXX)?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 13, 2014, 11:52:19 PM
Not bad.....

http://boardingarea.com/viewfromthewing/2014/02/13/united-com-will-now-show-brussels-airlines-great-award-availability/
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 16, 2014, 08:38:39 PM
Didn't Aeroplan start allowing OW? Why do I get a message on some routes that This itinerary is not eligible for a One-Way Reward.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 16, 2014, 09:19:01 PM
Didn't Aeroplan start allowing OW? Why do I get a message on some routes that This itinerary is not eligible for a One-Way Reward.
Needs to be ex-USA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on February 16, 2014, 09:21:22 PM
Needs to be ex-USA.
Ex-USA or North America?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 16, 2014, 09:59:33 PM
Ex-USA or North America?
That.

My bad.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 17, 2014, 06:42:58 PM
Is there a way to retrieve a TG PNR booked by UA without calling?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on February 17, 2014, 07:16:58 PM
Is there a way to retrieve a TG PNR booked by UA without calling?

All third party PNR's are listed on United under "view more" (unless TG doesnt).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 17, 2014, 08:09:01 PM
All third party PNR's are listed on United under "view more" (unless TG doesnt).
For some reason it doesn't show up.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on February 17, 2014, 08:57:39 PM
For some reason it doesn't show up.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thai-airways-royal-orchid-plus/1487549-verify-thai-award-using-united-mileageplus-miles.html
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 17, 2014, 09:17:49 PM
Is there a way to retrieve a TG PNR booked by UA without calling?
can u tell us what's brewing?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jeremiah on February 19, 2014, 05:00:25 AM
i currently have 31k miles & more. it falls short for one way tlv-nyc. any problems if i change my address to an israeli one and book this ticket for 30k?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on February 19, 2014, 05:07:12 AM
i currently have 31k miles & more. it falls short for one way tlv-nyc. any problems if i change my address to an israeli one and book this ticket for 30k?
You have the right to live wherever you choose, and United can't dictate that :-).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on February 19, 2014, 08:00:01 AM
i currently have 31k miles & more. it falls short for one way tlv-nyc. any problems if i change my address to an israeli one and book this ticket for 30k?

Why do you think that changing your address will decrease the mileage needed?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 19, 2014, 08:27:30 AM
i currently have 31k miles & more. it falls short for one way tlv-nyc. any problems if i change my address to an israeli one and book this ticket for 30k?
If it's for a 3rd party booking, you are asking for trouble. For yourself, it's probably ok.
Why do you think that changing your address will decrease the mileage needed?
Israeli M and M accounts get 2 region award pricing instead of 3 region. Much cheaper.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on February 19, 2014, 08:33:24 AM
If it's for a 3rd party booking, you are asking for trouble. For yourself, it's probably ok. Israeli M and M accounts get 2 region award pricing instead of 3 region. Much cheaper.

Oh, right. I still have an israeli address on my MM account from years ago. I was thinking he talks about United for some reason. Yes, I had a US address until a European relative asked me to book a flight, so I changed my address, no problems.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 19, 2014, 09:53:00 AM
If it's for a 3rd party booking, you are asking for trouble. For yourself, it's probably ok. Israeli M and M accounts get 2 region award pricing instead of 3 region. Much cheaper.
First of all it's only for flights originating the middle east, not vice versa.
Also, it's not that they don't have 3 region awards at all, it's just that it's considered as if you're originating Europe. But if originating Europe would make it as a 3 region itinerary, you would still be subject to a 3 region awards.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 19, 2014, 10:48:35 AM
First of all it's only for flights originating the middle east, not vice versa.
Also, it's not that they don't have 3 region awards at all, it's just that it's considered as if you're originating Europe. But if originating Europe would make it as a 3 region itinerary, you would still be subject to a 3 region awards.
Thanks for the clarifications.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 19, 2014, 11:38:28 AM
When booking with ANA, NYC-TLV with a stopover in Europe, can I call in when I see that a direct flight opens up to change to the direct flight?

(this is a general question, I just have in now with ANA)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jeremiah on February 19, 2014, 12:33:03 PM
Has anybody actually changed their address and book a ticket for 30k w/o any issue?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on February 19, 2014, 02:41:26 PM
Has anybody actually changed their address and book a ticket for 30k w/o any issue?
AFAIK there has been both - with issues and w/o issues. Its not recommended if you don't actually in Egypt or Syria (I think Israel as well).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: lich2539 on February 19, 2014, 08:00:27 PM
How can i book a ANA business class flight to Israel with points
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 19, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
How can i book a ANA business class flight to Israel with points
ANA is not flying to Israel.

Do you mean flying with ANA miles on United (or any other *A partner and paying heavy fuel charges)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: lich2539 on February 19, 2014, 08:38:23 PM
ANA is not flying to Israel.

Do you mean flying with ANA miles on United (or any other *A partner and paying heavy fuel charges)

Whats the best way to fly Business class with miles to Israel
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 19, 2014, 08:45:07 PM
Whats the best way to fly Business class with miles to Israel
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/23168
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 19, 2014, 11:17:02 PM
I can't book for my friend out of my ANA account? It sounds like you have to be a registered family member. Can someone clarify please?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on February 20, 2014, 05:19:59 AM
I can't book for my friend out of my ANA account? It sounds like you have to be a registered family member. Can someone clarify please?
Correct, and IIRC you can add up to 10 family members.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 20, 2014, 09:07:50 AM
Do the ever ask for proof?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 20, 2014, 09:12:30 AM
Do the ever ask for proof?
Yes.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 20, 2014, 09:15:27 AM
Yes.
Thanks. I tried Googling and didn't find much, can you post me a link discussing it.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 20, 2014, 06:42:18 PM
Thanks. I tried Googling and didn't find much, can you post me a link discussing it.
No link, can tell from E.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jnjose on February 26, 2014, 11:04:36 PM
May I ask a question?

in ANA website, if I could not find an award roundtrip ticket BOSTON-SHANGHAI. But instead, I can find an award ticket BOS-EWR and an award ticekt EWR-shanghai using 7 day availability option.
Can I call ANA and tell them the flight numbers. Let ANA book the roundtrip ticket for me ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
May I ask a question?

in ANA website, if I could not find an award roundtrip ticket BOSTON-SHANGHAI. But instead, I can find an award ticket BOS-EWR and an award ticekt EWR-shanghai using 7 day availability option.
Can I call ANA and tell them the flight numbers. Let ANA book the roundtrip ticket for me ?

Thanks
Yes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jnjose on February 27, 2014, 12:46:11 AM
Yes.

Many thanks for your reply.

May i ask one more question ?

If a boston- ewr roundtrip costs 20k ana miles. And an ewr- shanghai costs 65k miles.
When i call ANA and tell them the flight numbers to book boston- shanghai trip, i need to use 65k or 85k miles ? 

Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 27, 2014, 12:50:58 AM
Many thanks for your reply.

May i ask one more question ?

If a boston- ewr roundtrip costs 20k ana miles. And an ewr- shanghai costs 65k miles.
When i call ANA and tell them the flight numbers to book boston- shanghai trip, i need to use 65k or 85k miles ? 

Thanks
If because flying from BOS would add more then 18,001 miles it would be 75,000
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jnjose on February 27, 2014, 01:58:27 AM
If because flying from BOS would add more then 18,001 miles it would be 75,000

if there is a roundtrip ticket available on ANA website, it is 65K miles indeed (Boston---EWR/ORD--shanghai). I have seen it.
but more often, I could find two seperate flight legs available, so obviously if i book the trip online, it will cost me 85K miles.

Another question, if i can see 2 seperate legs (both are UA flights)  available on ANA website and then tell ANA representative the flight numbers by phone,  Can they definitely find the flights and put them together and book the trip for me with 65 K miles ?

Thanks again for your explanation.


Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 27, 2014, 08:28:44 AM
Yes they can. In fact even if you calll it a stopover, ANA allows 4 free stopovers.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Elgnt on March 02, 2014, 03:06:37 PM
If I find Availabilty on ANA for travel to Poland on LOT airlines but I only want to book a one way ticket as of now as I dont know my return date. How do i go about doing this?  Call up united and use united miles?  How many miles would a business class ticket be now if i went Jfk-WAW-TLV
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 02, 2014, 03:08:09 PM
If I find Availabilty on ANA for travel to Poland on LOT airlines but I only want to book a one way ticket as of now as I dont know my return date. How do i go about doing this?  Call up united and use united miles?  How many miles would a business class ticket be now if i went Jfk-WAW-TLV
You have to call up United. It would be 80,000 miles.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 02, 2014, 10:53:42 PM
When searching for LH on ANA it comes up something RQ what is that?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on March 09, 2014, 02:51:22 PM
If I see availability on LH F with M&M within 14 days of travel, does it necessarily mean availability with UA miles or they release more seats to their own members?   
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on March 09, 2014, 02:54:25 PM
If I see availability on LH F with M&M within 14 days of travel, does it necessarily mean availability with UA miles or they release more seats to their own members?
Own members.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on March 09, 2014, 03:00:49 PM
Own members.
First time I realized this. Not nice.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 09, 2014, 03:23:16 PM
If I see availability on LH F with M&M within 14 days of travel, does it necessarily mean availability with UA miles or they release more seats to their own members?
Checked ANA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on March 09, 2014, 06:13:07 PM
First time I realized this.
Really??

Why did you think people want LH miles

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 09, 2014, 06:35:59 PM
Really??

Why did you think people want LH miles
To book tickets more then 14 days in advanced? I've read that UA search engine is not accurate especially for LH F availability, that's why I was wondering if he checked ANA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on March 09, 2014, 06:55:13 PM
To book tickets more then 14 days in advanced? I've read that UA search engine is not accurate especially for LH F availability, that's why I was wondering if he checked ANA.
To book LH F 14 days out and in.

Also has a lot better availability on LX J.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on March 09, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
ANA and AC have identical results to UA on LH F: 0 seats.
While M&M has plenty seats.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: seemorehabs on March 18, 2014, 09:28:51 AM
im a member of ANA and want to book travel on star alliance from TLV, i cant seem to find a link to book travel (non award travel)
thanks for the help

also will star alliance gold status allow me to get 3 bags and free economy plus seating on all partner airlines?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on March 18, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
im a member of ANA and want to book travel on star alliance from TLV, i cant seem to find a link to book travel (non award travel)
thanks for the help

also will star alliance gold status allow me to get 3 bags and free economy plus seating on all partner airlines?
https://aswbe-i.ana.co.jp/p_per/sky_ip_per_jp/preAwdSearchLogin.do?LANG=en
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 18, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
im a member of ANA and want to book travel on star alliance from TLV, i cant seem to find a link to book travel (non award travel)
thanks for the help

also will star alliance gold status allow me to get 3 bags and free economy plus seating on all partner airlines?
Are you sure they are codeshare partners with all the star alliance members?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: seemorehabs on March 18, 2014, 01:45:53 PM
still seems only able to search for award flights not regular flight to pay cash

help anyone please, am i missing something?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 18, 2014, 02:04:38 PM
still seems only able to search for award flights not regular flight to pay cash

help anyone please, am i missing something?
Why do you want to buy it on ANA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: seemorehabs on March 18, 2014, 02:20:07 PM
i just want a site that can search all star alliance partners only and mix and match them if needed
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on March 19, 2014, 09:39:23 PM
I need some help, I booked a ticket with my United awards. I would like to change the date. The seat is on Lufthansa Business and when I try and change it does not show Lufthansa as a choice. The other choices do not work for me. Any ideas how to search for more Star Alliance choices or on Lufthansa. Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 19, 2014, 09:42:05 PM
Check Aeroplan for LOT Polish availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on March 19, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
I need help understanding. The points are United I booked Lufthansa. How do i get these points to aeroplan?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on March 19, 2014, 10:25:45 PM
I need help understanding. The points are United I booked Lufthansa. How do i get these points to aeroplan?
You're using the Aeroplan site to check availability, and if available you'll have to call in United to book, as United's site doesn't show Lot awards
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 19, 2014, 10:29:12 PM
I hope they don't start showing LOT availability like they started showing SN availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on March 20, 2014, 07:44:24 AM
You're using the Aeroplan site to check availability, and if available you'll have to call in United to book, as United's site doesn't show Lot awards
Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on March 27, 2014, 10:03:52 AM
Just did a bunch of searches and it seems Aeroplan isn't showing US anymore.

ETA: Just called, reps can't see it either.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on March 27, 2014, 10:30:43 PM
Just did a bunch of searches and it seems Aeroplan isn't showing US anymore.

ETA: Just called, reps can't see it either.
Not sure why this is not big news....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on April 10, 2014, 05:56:26 PM
Cheapest airline miles to use for a TLV to VIE direct flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 10, 2014, 06:00:25 PM
10,000 BA on Niki
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 10, 2014, 06:01:59 PM
Sorry.. I see you want Davke *A. So just s suggestion :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on April 10, 2014, 06:05:03 PM
Sorry.. I see you want Davke *A. So just s suggestion :)

Thanks. Yeah Niki has no availability.
Any idea about Star alliance ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 10, 2014, 06:20:10 PM
Thanks. Yeah Niki has no availability.
Any idea about Star alliance ?
IIRC, SQ should be 17,500. UA is 25,000.

YQ shouldn't be to much. It may even be cheaper than UA's close in fee.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on April 10, 2014, 06:24:53 PM
IIRC, SQ should be 17,500. UA is 25,000.

YQ shouldn't be to much. It may even be cheaper than UA's close in fee.

Thanks! Man these devaluations are making me crazy.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 10, 2014, 06:34:01 PM
Thanks! Man these devaluations are making me crazy.
Yeah... UA used to be 17,500 as well

With SQ you have to PUTPAC. They can hold awards. If you transfer MR now, it will probably post sometime after midnight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on April 10, 2014, 07:25:10 PM
LH is 20k and you can book LH, LX, OS, and LO online.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 10, 2014, 07:50:45 PM
LH is 20k and you can book LH, LX, OS, and LO online.
How much would be the YQ on OS?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on April 30, 2014, 09:31:09 AM
Is there still a work around to book one-way using ANA points? ORD-TLV
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hermit on May 02, 2014, 04:15:20 AM
rewardflyer.com (http://rewardflyer.com) can be pretty useful in showing *A availability and the points required by some of the alliance members.  The CC offers can be helpful if you don't have the miles.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 02, 2014, 08:14:21 AM
rewardflyer.com (http://rewardflyer.com) can be pretty useful in showing *A availability and the points required by some of the alliance members.  The CC offers can be helpful if you don't have the miles.
If you want to plug your site, just be open about it.

Can it set alerts?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 02, 2014, 09:14:34 AM
The CC offers can be helpful if you don't have the miles.
Not sure is this post is allowed as per the forum rules.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on May 03, 2014, 03:10:49 PM
Is there still a work around to book one-way using ANA points? ORD-TLV
Bump
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 05, 2014, 12:27:27 AM
Anyone use WATT's/Seth's/Wandering Aramean's ANA Star Alliance Alerts?

If so, if one upgrades to "First Class," would it be able to alert me when, for instance, JFK-ICN opened in F for 1 or 2 pax using UA (or other partner) miles? Essentially mirroring what EF and his old *A tool did?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
IF I wanted to fly LH F ORD-TLV, is there any good redemptions anymore now that UA is crazy?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 07, 2014, 08:50:36 AM
IF I wanted to fly LH F ORD-TLV, is there any good redemptions anymore now that UA is crazy?
Lifemiles.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 08:58:36 AM
Lifemiles.

What will it cost me?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dudi on May 07, 2014, 09:06:07 AM
If I need to fly united direct from ewr-tlv RT is there any better way to do it than united miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 09:06:33 AM
What will it cost me?

GIYF.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
If I need to fly united direct from ewr-tlv RT is there any better way to do it than united miles?

Bunch of ways better than UA, which is 85/140:

A3 = 60/90
MS = 80/120
AV = 80/130
LH = 80/135
SQ = 75/115
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dudi on May 07, 2014, 09:17:21 AM
Bunch of ways better than UA, which is 85/140:

A3 = 60/90
MS = 80/120
AV = 80/130
LH = 80/135
SQ = 75/115
if I get A3 it will be 90 per first class?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 09:21:25 AM
if I get A3 it will be 90 per first class?

There is no F on EWR-TLV.

But you can fly J for 90K A3.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dudi on May 07, 2014, 09:22:47 AM
Which would be the easiest to get from brokers?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 09:23:37 AM
What will it cost me?
1.5 per mile. It's 72k OW
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 09:24:44 AM
Which would be the easiest to get from brokers?

Probably MR --> SQ
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 09:27:26 AM
Does A3 allow OW?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 09:28:42 AM
Probably MR --> SQ
...well.. If there is UA availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 09:30:01 AM
Does A3 allow OW?

Yes.

...well.. If there is UA availability.

Not the topic of discussion, but yes, a concern.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PETERP on May 07, 2014, 09:54:48 AM
Yes.

Not the topic of discussion, but yes, a concern.

Excuse my ignorance but A 3 is aegean isn't it . Aegean has code share flights out of EWR ?

Anything to Greece ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 09:55:51 AM
Excuse my ignorance but A 3 is aegean isn't it . Aegean has code share flights out of EWR ?

Anything to Greece ?

Its part of *A. Hence you can book UA or any *A flights with them. Just like UA can book LH.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: PETERP on May 07, 2014, 10:17:47 AM
Its part of *A. Hence you can book UA or any *A flights with them. Just like UA can book LH.

I have booked LH LX and A 3 using UA points but didn't realize there is a way any to use
A3 points to book a flight.

Bunch of ways better than UA, which is 85/140:

A3 = 60/90
MS = 80/120
AV = 80/130
LH = 80/135
SQ = 75/115


What am I not understanding ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 10:21:11 AM
See the explanation immediately above your post.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
Is there still a work around to book one-way using ANA points? ORD-TLV

So should I give up on this?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 03:30:19 PM
I found availability on LOT ORD-WAW-TLV. What is the best option to book this with? I aint in the mood to spend 80k united.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dr Moose on May 07, 2014, 03:33:23 PM
M&M?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 03:41:13 PM
M&M?

Instant transfer? any fuel fees? how many.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 07, 2014, 04:19:45 PM
I found availability on LOT ORD-WAW-TLV. What is the best option to book this with? I aint in the mood to spend 80k united.
57.5k SQ
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 04:57:45 PM
57.5k SQ

Any YQ? Is it bookable online or only via phone?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 07, 2014, 06:03:45 PM
Any YQ? Is it bookable online or only via phone?
Minimal YQ. Phone only.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 07, 2014, 06:04:15 PM
Any YQ? Is it bookable online or only via phone?
Yes YQ. Only via phone.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 06:07:18 PM
Bunch of ways better than UA, which is 85/140:

A3 = 60/90
MS = 80/120
AV = 80/130
LH = 80/135
SQ = 75/115
A3 is 80/110
NH is 60/90 and does not allow OWs.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 06:08:25 PM
Ok thanks. Guess i will transfer points to sq. i have no problem flying LOT 787 but I will this time bring my own meals.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 06:15:11 PM
A3 is 80/110

-1
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 06:23:44 PM
Ok thanks. Guess i will transfer points to sq. i have no problem flying LOT 787 but I will this time bring my own meals.
If you transfer now it will be there sometime after midnight.

MEIR613, is the YQ as little as with Aeroplan?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 07, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
Does A3 allow one ways? Anyway to get miles into a account there besides flying?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 06:33:33 PM
Does A3 allow one ways?

Yes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 06:40:45 PM
-1
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/spend-miles/
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 06:53:55 PM
http://en.aegeanair.com/milesandbonus/program-description/spend-miles/

Keep looking.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on May 07, 2014, 07:08:10 PM
Keep looking.
And we have a winner!!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 07:12:54 PM
This is going to be my signature   ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 09:38:23 PM
Keep looking.
Cool.
Though I'm not sure what's the use of pointing that out over NH when A3 doesn't have any transfer partners.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 09:43:43 PM
Either does AV, but I posted it, too.  8)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 09:45:15 PM
Either does AV, but I posted it, too.  8)
But at least you can buy AV on the cheap. May as well use it for LH F over UA J, but who's counting.

Anyway there's a reason I never looked too closely at A3.  Prob the first time I've see Israel in Africa though.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 09:49:19 PM
Can't fault a guy for being completeness, even if there no xfer partner.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 09:49:34 PM
BTW AV is showing UA flights again, EWR to LON for ***** in J works again!!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
Can't fault a guy for being completeness, even if there no xfer partner.
But you left out the best option, NH.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 10:01:13 PM
But you left out the best option, NH.

Sue me!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 10:06:31 PM
Sue me!
Consider yourself sued.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 10:06:55 PM
BTW AV is showing UA flights again, EWR to LON for ***** in J works again!!
BH
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 10:11:27 PM
Consider yourself sued.

I have a settlement offer, please see here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16628.msg796557#msg796557).

I will regale you with tales of travel and adventure.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 10:13:05 PM
Lol, http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=6649.0
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 10:14:20 PM
Lol, http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=6649.0

Could work, too, yet I'd miss out on Mrs. Dan's famed cooking.

Where do I sign up for that?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on May 20, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
Hi all,

i'm trying to find Singapore Air A380 flights with the Suites from EWR to somewhere in Europe.
how do i find these flights ?
and how can i find how many points needed to book them ?

thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 20, 2014, 05:36:17 PM
Hi all,

i'm trying to find Singapore Air A380 flights with the Suites from EWR to somewhere in Europe.
how do i find these flights ?
and how can i find how many points needed to book them ?

thanks

SQ does not fly the A380 to EWR, only to JFK.

JFK-FRA-SIN
SIN-ZRH
SIN-CDG
SIN-LHR
SIN-NRT-LAX
SIN-HKG
SIN-SYD

Search on SQ.com for saver.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 20, 2014, 06:03:47 PM
SQ does not fly the A380 to EWR, only to JFK.

JFK-FRA-SIN
SIN-ZRH
SIN-CDG
SIN-LHR
SIN-NRT-LAX
SIN-HKG
SIN-SYD

Search on SQ.com for saver.
And they are bookable with other *A partners?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 20, 2014, 06:04:31 PM
Def not.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 20, 2014, 06:05:50 PM
Def not.
Yeah... By saying he should check for saver award you gave an impression that it would be available for partners. At least for me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 20, 2014, 06:07:06 PM
Yeah... By saying he should check for saver award you gave an impression that it would be available for partners. At least for me.

I included that to say that so that he shouldn't see "standard" or "full" and say, "yippee! I can fly to SIN in R now because it's available!" :)

Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 20, 2014, 06:10:20 PM
I included that to say that so that he shouldn't see "standard" or "full" and say, "yippee! I can fly to SIN in R now because it's available!" :)

Sorry for the confusion.
Is there any SQ J or R that is available for partners?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 20, 2014, 06:12:53 PM
J, yes.

R, no.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 20, 2014, 06:14:10 PM
J, yes.

R, no.
So when JFK-FRA in is available in J (SAVER) can I call UA and have it booked?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 20, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
YMMV, though I think that route is particularly slim.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 20, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
YMMV, though I think that route is particularly slim.
Any way to search it?

In any case when it's available on SQ saver award, it's a pretty good redemption using SQ miles. No savings with UA for 70k.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 20, 2014, 07:17:40 PM
Any way to search it?

In any case when it's available on SQ saver award, it's a pretty good redemption using SQ miles. No savings with UA for 70k.

ANA.

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 20, 2014, 09:11:44 PM
I included that to say that so that he shouldn't see "standard" or "full" and say, "yippee! I can fly to SIN in R now because it's available!" :)

Sorry for the confusion.
Standard award on SQ R is still a relatively good redemption in my books.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 20, 2014, 10:12:13 PM
Standard award on SQ R is still a relatively good redemption in my books.
For a second pax. Otherwise just do LH F. Besides if you really wanna try it out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 20, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Despite all the attention the suites get - after trying both, I would take LH F over SQ R.
How cozy and private a suite might be, you're still pushed and jailed in a skimpy room for over 8 hours.
I much more appreciate open space and air to breath.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on May 20, 2014, 10:53:17 PM

I much more appreciate open space and air to breath.
Not everyone lives in willi  :P
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 20, 2014, 11:14:32 PM
Not everyone lives in willi  :P
...and are not used to it.  :P
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on May 21, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
Do you know if there is a comparable Suites type from EWR on any other Airline ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on May 21, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
Do you know if there is a comparable Suites type from EWR on any other Airline ?

Emirates.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on May 27, 2014, 03:56:15 PM
Stopovers are not available for one-way Saver Award flights.

Singapore Air- i keep getting the above error message when trying to book the suites from JFK to FRA. Im booking in November, one way.
Any Ideas ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 27, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
Stopovers are not available for one-way Saver Award flights.

Singapore Air- i keep getting the above error message when trying to book the suites from JFK to FRA. Im booking in November, one way.
Any Ideas ?

PUTPAC
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on May 27, 2014, 04:00:46 PM
Stopovers are not available for one-way Saver Award flights.

Singapore Air- i keep getting the above error message when trying to book the suites from JFK to FRA. Im booking in November, one way.
Any Ideas ?
Not sure if you're referring to a specific airline (or if that even matters), but I booked a free <24 hour stopover on a 1 way Saver award. VCE-ZRH-FCO on LX.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 27, 2014, 04:01:58 PM
Not sure if you're referring to a specific airline (or if that even matters), but I booked a free <24 hour stopover on a 1 way Saver award. VCE-ZRH-FCO on LX.

The only airline you can book suites on is SQ.

The only miles you can book suites with are SQ.

<24 hours on an international itinerary is not a stopover.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 27, 2014, 05:10:48 PM
Anyone have a solution for *A alerts?
WATT was a good tool but UA shut him down recently.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 27, 2014, 05:11:25 PM
Use his ANA tool.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 27, 2014, 05:18:27 PM
Use his ANA tool.
It works for you?
Hasn't worked once for me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 27, 2014, 05:22:24 PM
It has.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 27, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
It has.
Consistently or once?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 27, 2014, 05:32:58 PM
Haven't used it that often, but at least twice.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 27, 2014, 05:35:33 PM
Haven't used it that often, but at least twice.
Will have to test it again.
Know of any other options?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 27, 2014, 05:40:44 PM
Don't believe there are any.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 27, 2014, 06:03:15 PM
Don't believe there are any.
You can schedule daily searches with ANX but that is once daily and you pay per search.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on May 27, 2014, 10:23:17 PM
Stopovers are not available for one-way Saver Award flights.

Singapore Air- i keep getting the above error message when trying to book the suites from JFK to FRA. Im booking in November, one way.
Any Ideas ?
It happened because you forgot to select the flight, make sure one circle has the orange dot in it.
No need to PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on May 28, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
It happened because you forgot to select the flight, make sure one circle has the orange dot in it.
No need to PUTPAC.
You might be meshugga but you sure is smart.
cant believe i didnt see that.
thanks that worked.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on May 29, 2014, 06:24:32 PM
Just got this error returned from WATT ANA alert tool.

Quote
We are sorry to inform you that there are no applicable direct or connecting flights. Because of the nature of the ANA search engine it is recommended that you only search routes where there is non-stop service or multiple, frequent one-stop options available. More esoteric routes simply do not work with it.
Route was MIA-FCO.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheP on June 03, 2014, 11:05:27 AM
Since when does Aeroplan show phantom availability on Thai?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 03, 2014, 12:35:19 PM
Since when does Aeroplan show phantom availability on Thai?
How do you know it's phantom?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheP on June 03, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
How do you know it's phantom?

Tried booking and got a message that based on real time availability the flight I requested isn't available. I called and agent said no availability.... checked online and flight still shows available.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 03, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
Tried booking and got a message that based on real time availability the flight I requested isn't available. I called and agent said no availability.... checked online and flight still shows available.
Did you verify with ANA/UA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheP on June 06, 2014, 01:27:49 AM
Did you verify with ANA/UA?

I verified it wasn't available on UA. However Aeroplane still shows available.  I didn't use ANA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on June 06, 2014, 01:30:43 AM
I verified it wasn't available on UA. However Aeroplane still shows available.  I didn't use ANA.
Aeroplan is phantom as well. Only use ANA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: miles on June 06, 2014, 03:23:55 PM
Use his ANA tool.
What tool
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 06, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
What tool
http://wandr.me/Award-Search/
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: BRASIL770 on June 12, 2014, 08:43:08 AM
Please note that if you have TAM, GOL and Azul. GOLd STATUS it cant be matched to AVIANCA BRASIL (AmigoCLUB) until july 30.

Note that Avianca brasil is a subsidiary of Avianca (Lifemiles) and Avianca BRASIL will join STAR alliance by end of july. according to news report.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on June 18, 2014, 02:27:36 PM
hi
So im trying to book EWR --->BCN with a stopover in ZRH.
i've got Lufthansa miles and UR Points.
First or second week of november travel dates work.
any idea on how to book this  ? United doesnt show any availability as far as i can tell
business or first would be best..

thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 18, 2014, 02:35:15 PM
hi
So im trying to book EWR --->BCN with a stopover in ZRH.
i've got Lufthansa miles and UR Points.
First or second week of november travel dates work.
any idea on how to book this  ? United doesnt show any availability as far as i can tell
business or first would be best..

thanks

Post here - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986

Follow the template in the WIKI
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on June 18, 2014, 03:32:14 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 22, 2014, 10:38:59 AM
Just got this error returned from WATT ANA alert tool.
Route was MIA-FCO.
Had luck using the ANA alert tool today.
Apparently, it's best when it searches for single segments.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 22, 2014, 02:18:20 PM
For a trip on singapore airlines SIN-DME-IAH using singapore miles, can they add on a leg iah-jfk or would that be more miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on June 22, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
For a trip on singapore airlines SIN-DME-IAH using singapore miles, can they add on a leg iah-jfk or would that be more miles?
A stop within 24 hours? What should be the problem?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 22, 2014, 02:29:54 PM
A stop within 24 hours? What should be the problem?

I don't know. Lets say this. I found Sin-DME-IAH. But I need SIN-DME-IAH-JFK would that be the same amount as IAH-JFK?

I think I am just confused
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on June 22, 2014, 02:32:20 PM
I don't know. Lets say this. I found Sin-DME-IAH. But I need SIN-DME-IAH-JFK would that be the same amount as IAH-JFK?

I think I am just confused
So you're asking when booking TLV-EWR with UA miles for 42.5k, can I do TLV-EWR-IAH? Is this what you're asking? Of course you can.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 22, 2014, 02:38:05 PM
So you're asking when booking TLV-EWR with UA miles for 42.5k, can I do TLV-EWR-IAH? Is this what you're asking? Of course you can.

That I know. I think I was just confused.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on June 22, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
That I know. I think I was just confused.
you're tired  :P
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 22, 2014, 02:42:07 PM
you're tired  :P

Yup.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 22, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
For a trip on singapore airlines SIN-DME-IAH using singapore miles, can they add on a leg iah-jfk or would that be more miles?
Yes, because you'll lose the 15% discount. Unless you're really good at chatting someone up...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on June 22, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I don't know. Lets say this. I found Sin-DME-IAH. But I need SIN-DME-IAH-JFK would that be the same amount as IAH-JFK?

I think I am just confused
They have a limit on how many legs you're allowed to have on a one way. I don't remember if it s 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 22, 2014, 08:09:30 PM
If you'd be using SQ miles, that last leg will kick you off the Krisflyer chart and onto the partner chart.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 23, 2014, 04:10:39 AM
If you'd be using SQ miles, that last leg will kick you off the Krisflyer chart and onto the partner chart.

You see,, thats what I wanted to know. Thanks.

Now, How about if it is the first leg?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 23, 2014, 07:40:53 AM
Same thing.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on July 01, 2014, 11:02:06 AM
Trying to book a taca flight. Using AMEX points. See availability on UA.com. Can't find anything on aeroplan? Is it supposed to be bookable on aeroplan?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on July 01, 2014, 12:22:45 PM
Trying to book a taca flight. Using AMEX points. See availability on UA.com. Can't find anything on aeroplan? Is it supposed to be bookable on aeroplan?
Got them to find one direction. But they couldn't find the other. After speaking to a supervisor, got them to waive the $30 booking fee. Unfortunately, I transferred all the points in and now have to convince them find the return.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on July 01, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
Shoot. Anyone with any advice now that I already transferred the points? Why would UA have access to something that AP doesn't?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 01, 2014, 01:48:47 PM
Shoot. Anyone with any advice now that I already transferred the points? Why would UA have access to something that AP doesn't?
Does it show on ANA? Did you ask for a long sell?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 09, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
For Austrian Arrows, which miles are best to use for flights besides united? (for NYC-TLV)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 09, 2014, 03:18:44 PM
For Austrian Arrows, which miles are best to use for flights besides united? (for NYC-TLV)
Life Miles. All others like ANA (who has a great award chart) will charge you heavy YQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 09, 2014, 03:32:18 PM
Life Miles. All others like ANA (who has a great award chart) will charge you heavy YQ.

Thanks, but the flight won't come up on their site, do i need to call?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 09, 2014, 03:33:21 PM
Thanks, but the flight won't come up on their site, do i need to call?
Is it within 4 days of the flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 09, 2014, 03:39:17 PM
Is it within 4 days of the flight?

No, a few months out
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 09, 2014, 03:42:38 PM
No, a few months out
So it should be visible on ANA. You can always call in. Which dates/flights are you looking at?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 09, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Life Miles. All others like ANA (who has a great award chart) will charge you heavy YQ.
Pretty sure you can't book any Austrian flights with Lifemiles because they are coded as being operated by Tyrolean and LM can't see that.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on July 09, 2014, 03:47:57 PM
Pretty sure you can't book any Austrian flights with Lifemiles because they are coded as being operated by Tyrolean and LM can't see that.

That would explain it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 09, 2014, 03:51:14 PM
Pretty sure you can't book any Austrian flights with Lifemiles because they are coded as being operated by Tyrolean and LM can't see that.
I thought he was talking about ANA, but anyway.. Why can't LM see Tyrolean operated flights?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 09, 2014, 03:59:53 PM
I thought he was talking about ANA, but anyway.. Why can't LM see Tyrolean operated flights?
Want to continue this convo in the Lifemiles master thread? ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 17, 2014, 06:46:03 PM
I am unable to search for flights to Idaho Falls (IDA), Billings (BIL), Cody (COD), and some other smaller airport on ANA. Whats my best option?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 17, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
Use UA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 17, 2014, 07:50:16 PM
Use UA?
But ANA is supposed to be more thorough.

If I see a segment on United thats available as part of longer trip; does that mean I can patch it with a different flight?
Example: ORD-DEN-SLC shows availability. EWR-DEN shows availability. Can I call up for EWR-DEN-SLC? Even though it doesn't come up when searching EWR-SLC?

Is there a way to search all flights going into a specific airport?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on July 17, 2014, 08:24:24 PM
But ANA is supposed to be more thorough.

If I see a segment on United thats available as part of longer trip; does that mean I can patch it with a different flight?
Example: ORD-DEN-SLC shows availability. EWR-DEN shows availability. Can I call up for EWR-DEN-SLC? Even though it doesn't come up when searching EWR-SLC?

Is there a way to search all flights going into a specific airport?
If you are searching UA metal, ua.com is better.
PUTPAC to book that.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 17, 2014, 10:42:55 PM
If you are searching UA metal, ua.com is better.
PUTPAC to book that.
So your saying an agent would book that for me?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on July 17, 2014, 10:43:40 PM
So your saying an agent would book that for me?
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Yes
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 18, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Is it a chiddush that I was able to find a flight by patching together segments, and that option didn't come up on ANA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 18, 2014, 03:21:50 PM
Dont mean to be spamming the board but...got one more question. If there is award availability only when searching with an account that has expanded availability because the Explorer card, will that flight be available on Lufthansa?

Also pretty strange: When I search EWR-DEN on 8.10 it shows BIZ availability for EWR-BZN-DEN. When I search EWR-BZN same flight doesnt show up??
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: raccah on July 18, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
Hey I need help getting to Israel, the best options there and back now still seem to be SA, AA had a GREAT deal, but no real way back at all, other than a day after I would arrive. Fly Blue has nothing, Avios has nothing.

Anyway, SFO to TLV and back Monday (the 21st) for a week. Is the best deal 160K and that is not even biz all the way, just biz there nad eco back. But is there better ideas? Need help, going to be meachem aval - not part of the war, just a friend's mother passed. Anyway, is 165K the best?

Thanks for any help..
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on July 21, 2014, 12:37:36 PM
Dont mean to be spamming the board but...got one more question. If there is award availability only when searching with an account that has expanded availability because the Explorer card, will that flight be available on Lufthansa?
No.
Also pretty strange: When I search EWR-DEN on 8.10 it shows BIZ availability for EWR-BZN-DEN. When I search EWR-BZN same flight doesnt show up??
It's called a "Married Segment".
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Azis Papa on July 21, 2014, 03:03:38 PM
I am trying to book an award flight with a free domestic one-way.  I haven't done this before.  I am trying to book it on UA.com as "multiple destinations" but it doesn't seem to work even though I am finding availability of each segment via one-way.  What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 21, 2014, 03:07:26 PM
UA award search is full of bugs. PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 21, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
I am trying to book an award flight with a free domestic one-way.  I haven't done this before.  I am trying to book it on UA.com as "multiple destinations" but it doesn't seem to work even though I am finding availability of each segment via one-way.  What am I doing wrong?
What are the flights?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 21, 2014, 03:55:22 PM
Also pretty strange: When I search EWR-DEN on 8.10 it shows BIZ availability for EWR-BZN-DEN. When I search EWR-BZN same flight doesnt show up??
It's called a "Married Segment".
So even if I call up I wont be able to get the "single" ;D flight by itself?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Azis Papa on July 22, 2014, 12:38:26 AM
What are the flights?
JFK - TLV  (8/27-9/1),  TLV - FLL/PBI (10/20-10/23), - CLE (10/30).  TIA for any help.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on July 22, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
Anyone notice the new website layout for M&M award search?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on July 29, 2014, 11:43:30 AM
Im looking in to 6 tickets on LH for VCE-NYC via FRA, UA showing 5 seats for first leg and six for second,

Is UA the best Redemption for LH?
Will submitting 2 redemptions on 2 computers same time have chances of picking up sixt seat?
What can I add in at final destination (NYC)?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on July 30, 2014, 12:01:59 PM
i have 2 options
1.buisness classThai airways from SYD-BKK-FRA-MAN 85k  + $100
2. CX from SYD-BNE-HKG-LHR-MAN. right now only SYD-BNE-HKG is available for buisness. 60k + $200
and see if availabilty opens up from HKG-LHR. but pay as if I am flying buisness.
What should I do?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on July 30, 2014, 12:06:43 PM
i have 2 options
1.buisness classThai airways from SYD-BKK-FRA-MAN 85k  + $100
2. CX from SYD-BNE-HKG-LHR-MAN. right now only SYD-BNE-HKG is available for buisness. 60k + $200
and see if availabilty opens up from HKG-LHR. but pay as if I am flying buisness.
What should I do?

try posting here - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Thingywingy on July 30, 2014, 06:22:52 PM
When looking for tickets on United, can adding nearby airports limit whats being shown from that specific airport?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 04, 2014, 03:43:46 PM
On a domestic united award using AP, why does this make sense?

(http://i.gyazo.com/085192f468c403d3abe752c2f6758341.png)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 04, 2014, 03:57:12 PM
On a domestic united award using AP, why does this make sense?

(http://i.gyazo.com/085192f468c403d3abe752c2f6758341.png)
It doesn't.
Complain to the appropriate authorities.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on August 04, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
If I book a revenue ticket with Avianca and I only want to take 1 direction: The 1 way ticket is exorbitant. What happens if I book a RT and the return is completely refundable-can I cancel the return? If yes, do I have to wait until after I fly the outbound?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 04, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
It doesn't.
Complain to the appropriate authorities.

Seemed so, but someone else (loosely) said that "taxes are taxes, some award programs cover more, some less. Not all award programs have to pay the same fees on your behalf as others."
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 04, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
Not sure what that means, but PFC doesn't apply to awards.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 04, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Not sure what that means, but PFC doesn't apply to awards.

Is there a list somewhere of what taxes apply to award flights?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Chaikel on August 04, 2014, 05:07:30 PM
If I book a revenue ticket with Avianca and I only want to take 1 direction: The 1 way ticket is exorbitant. What happens if I book a RT and the return is completely refundable-can I cancel the return? If yes, do I have to wait until after I fly the outbound?
Short answer: Won't work.

Generally fare rules go by most restrictive fare, so if the outbound is non-refundable the entire ticket is non-refundable. Even if the entire ticket is refundable, often once travel has commenced there is no refund, or if there is, they generally reprice as a oneway fare and refund the difference. The only hope is IRROPS, which I'm not even sure AV would refund for
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Complain to the appropriate authorities.
lol
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 04, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
Seemed so, but someone else (loosely) said that "taxes are taxes, some award programs cover more, some less. Not all award programs have to pay the same fees on your behalf as others."
Aeroplan does weird things with fee calculation.
Many times it works in your favor ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 04, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
Is there a list somewhere of what taxes apply to award flights?
     

No Amount Paid for Air Transportation

As a general rule, all amounts paid for the air transportation of persons are subject to tax. Where no amount is paid for air transportation, such as when the transportation is obtained by the redemption of frequent flyer miles, the transaction is not subject to the percentage tax, the domestic segment tax, or international facilities tax. Cite: Rev. Rul. 84-12, 1984-1 C.B. 211.

http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Air-Transportation-Excise-Tax-ATG-Part-1
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ergel on August 04, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
Short answer: Won't work.

Generally fare rules go by most restrictive fare, so if the outbound is non-refundable the entire ticket is non-refundable. Even if the entire ticket is refundable, often once travel has commenced there is no refund, or if there is, they generally reprice as a oneway fare and refund the difference. The only hope is IRROPS, which I'm not even sure AV would refund for
Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 04, 2014, 05:27:26 PM
lol

He wasn't kidding.

Aeroplan does weird things with fee calculation.
Many times it works in your favor ;)

It ain't here.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 04, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
He wasn't kidding.

It ain't here.
Get back to me when you've booked LH F with no YQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2014, 06:13:41 PM
Get back to me when you've booked LH F with no YQ.
Have you done it recently? Still works?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 04, 2014, 06:19:16 PM
Requires "aggressive negotiations" ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on August 04, 2014, 07:04:48 PM
Get back to me when you've booked LH F with no YQ.
Have you done it recently? Still works?
Think you guys are talking about 2 different things.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 04, 2014, 07:31:39 PM
Think you guys are talking about 2 different things.
Yep.
Requires "aggressive negotiations" ;)
Are you referring to the known method?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Jeremiah on August 04, 2014, 08:06:38 PM
I put a united award ticket on hold
"We will hold this reservation until midnight Tue., Aug. 5, 2014 in New York, NY (LGA - LaGuardia)"
Is this till tonight or tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Yep. Are you referring to the known method?
Yes. What am I missing?  ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 04, 2014, 09:10:27 PM
can anyone post a few links to places that discuss all about redeeming miles on star alliance?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 04, 2014, 09:47:32 PM
Yes. What am I missing?  ;)
GIYF for this one.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 05, 2014, 12:27:47 PM
when travelling from the UK is there any way to avoid the UK Air Passenger Duty Fee?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 05, 2014, 01:59:16 PM
when travelling from the UK is there any way to avoid the UK Air Passenger Duty Fee?
No.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on August 05, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
No.
-1
Book AB via TXL.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 05, 2014, 07:27:59 PM
-1
Book AB via TXL.
Why is there no tax this way?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
APD is based on distance of first segment ex-LHR.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on August 05, 2014, 08:31:08 PM
That isn't avoiding it, it's just reducing it. No way to totally avoid it,  short of not flying ex-LON.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 05, 2014, 11:59:54 PM
I have a connecting flight in SIN and there are 2 SQ Flights SIN-LHR one is A380 one is 77W and there is only room on 77w (and its later) Can I book the 77W and try to get on the A380 or it will be a problem with luggage ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 06, 2014, 12:11:13 AM
I have a connecting flight in SIN and there are 2 SQ Flights SIN-LHR one is A380 one is 77W and there is only room on 77w (and its later) Can I book the 77W and try to get on the A380 or it will be a problem with luggage ?
Depends how long your connection is.
If you tell us your incoming airline, we can answer your question.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 06, 2014, 12:15:47 AM
Depends how long your connection is.
If you tell us your incoming airline, we can answer your question.

SQ and there is 1hr 50min between when i land until the next flight departs. The one I would go standby on.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 06, 2014, 12:30:36 AM
SQ and there is 1hr 50min between when i land until the next flight departs. The one I would go standby on.
Your connection time is fine.
I have no idea about SQ standby policies.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 06, 2014, 12:32:31 AM
Your connection time is fine.
I have no idea about SQ standby policies.

How long does it take to transfer terminals in SIN? there are no customs/immigration? Any perks when traveling in suites?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 06, 2014, 10:00:21 PM
I found a round trip on ANA business class.  38,000 miles. and I don't know how much $$.  YUL to ORD

Both legs are on united.  If I book it on united, it's 25,000 each way for a total of 50,000 miles round trip. and $61.10.

So what now?  I book it on ANA?  How long does it take for MR miles to post on ANA? 

Please someone guide me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 06, 2014, 10:01:43 PM
I found a round trip on ANA business class.  38,000 miles. and I don't know how much $$.  YUL to ORD

Both legs are on united.  If I book it on united, it's 25,000 each way for a total of 50,000 miles round trip. and $61.10.

So what now?  I book it on ANA?  How long does it take for MR miles to post on ANA? 

Please someone guide me.
It takes 2-4 days. No YQ on UA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on August 06, 2014, 10:02:13 PM
I found a round trip on ANA business class.  38,000 miles. and I don't know how much $$.  YUL to ORD

Both legs are on united.  If I book it on united, it's 25,000 each way for a total of 50,000 miles round trip. and $61.10.

So what now?  I book it on ANA?  How long does it take for MR miles to post on ANA? 

Please someone guide me.

Umm, what airline YUL to ORD? If you can find it on ANA you should be able to see it on UA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 06, 2014, 10:03:34 PM
Umm, what airline YUL to ORD? If you can find it on ANA you should be able to see it on UA.
I don't think you understand her issue correctly.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on August 06, 2014, 10:04:49 PM
I don't think you understand her issue correctly.

Nvm, I read it correctly now. Now I understand
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 06, 2014, 10:11:45 PM
It takes 2-4 days. No YQ on UA.
Thank you.  And thanks for confirming no YQ. (I wasn't sure I understood correctly.  What about on Air Canada- that's another open ticket choice on this route?)

Now I need advice from the gut of those with experience. Do I transfer and wait, or will I likely lose the seat by then so I shouldn't bother?

YUL - ORD  Aug 14.  and back Aug 24
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 06, 2014, 10:14:44 PM
Thank you.  And thanks for confirming no YQ. (I wasn't sure I understood correctly.  What about on Air Canada- that's another open ticket choice on this route?)

Now I need advice from the gut of those with experience. Do I transfer and wait, or will I likely lose the seat by then so I shouldn't bother?

YUL - ORD  Aug 14.  and back Aug 24
You can transfer to SQ and it will cost you 40k RT. It transfers much faster IME.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 06, 2014, 10:17:51 PM
You can transfer to SQ and it will cost you 40k RT. It transfers much faster IME.
Thanks for the advice.  But I give up -  SQ?
And also no YQ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 06, 2014, 10:22:01 PM
Thanks for the advice.  But I give up -  SQ?
And also no YQ?
http://bit.ly/1oF9my9  :P

No YQ.  You may even try to call them in and ask them to hold the seats for you, YMMV.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 06, 2014, 10:25:10 PM
http://bit.ly/1oF9my9 (http://bit.ly/1oF9my9)  :P

No YQ.  You may even try to call them in and ask them to hold the seats for you, YMMV.
;D   thanks again.  (I tried on DDF, didn't think of google)
I could call SQ to hold the seats while I make myself an account and do the transfer?  would ANA hold it for me? Who transfers to SQ, and how long does it take?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 06, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
;D   thanks again.  (I tried on DDF, didn't think of google)
I could call SQ to hold the seats while I make myself an account and do the transfer?  would ANA hold it for me? Who transfers to SQ, and how long does it take?
You call SQ once you have an account. ANA does not hold. MR, Starwood, and UR. UR is over night I think. If you transfer now, it might be there tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 06, 2014, 10:32:38 PM
You call SQ once you have an account. ANA does not hold. MR, Starwood, and UR. UR is over night I think. If you transfer now, it might be there tomorrow morning.
Thank you very much for giving me my own tutorial!


Good night.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 06, 2014, 10:33:49 PM
Thank you very much for giving me my own tutorial!


Good night.
Glad to help  :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 07, 2014, 09:22:04 PM
I transferred (UR) 40K to SQ.  They just came through and I made the booking!  $114 singapore dollars, though.  $91 american.  (Did I over pay?)


I have the Singapore confirmation code.  It seems to only work when I'm logged in. How do I get the UA and AC confirmation codes?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2014, 09:39:30 PM
That isn't avoiding it, it's just reducing it. No way to totally avoid it,  short of not flying ex-LON.
$116 vs $20
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 07, 2014, 09:42:29 PM
$116 vs $20
What should I have done?  Is there anything I can do now?



Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 07, 2014, 09:49:39 PM
$116 vs $20

Hence

when travelling from the UK is there any way to avoid the UK Air Passenger Duty Fee?
No.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 07, 2014, 09:50:32 PM
FYI. UR-SQ took me evening to next day late afternoon
       TY points - SQ. 36 hrs.
       SQ held a ticket for me for 3 days after a few HUCA.
       
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2014, 09:58:41 PM
Hence

You and AJK are too technical.
Take a step back and see what the poster's intention is, not the language they happened to write.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 07, 2014, 10:00:06 PM
This ticket is YUL - ORD round.  Business.


Also:  How can I get a confirmation code my nephew can check on line without being logged into my Singapore acct?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 07, 2014, 10:02:57 PM
This ticket is YUL - ORD round.  Business.


Also:  How can I get a confirmation code my nephew can check on line without being logged into my Singapore acct?
If something you underpaid.....

Call SQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on August 07, 2014, 10:05:05 PM
If something you underpaid.....

Call SQ.
:D   You're the one who told me to do this!


OK, I'll call.
edit:  I tried again and now it works.  (either I made a mistake before, or it was too soon after booking.)


Thanks ilherman for all your help!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on August 07, 2014, 10:52:33 PM
$116 vs $20

It's not really $20, because you pay the German departure tax. I did it once when I had 3 pax in biz, and I saved quite a lot (biz tax is double). I flew to DUS with BA (not telling them about my connection). I picked up my luggage in DUS and on I went to LH F.

I think the cheapest departure tax in Europe is from Poland, so next time I would try BA to WAW and then home to NY.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 12, 2014, 05:33:24 PM
Family member flying United Class K round trip TLV-EWR-YUL

I want to credit them to a *A airline where i can combine them with mine (like BA household account)

Are there any programs in *a that allow that and are worth crediting to?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 12, 2014, 06:33:22 PM
Family member flying United Class K round trip TLV-EWR-YUL

I want to credit them to a *A airline where i can combine them with mine (like BA household account)

Are there any programs in *a that allow that and are worth crediting to?
I don't think so. On a side note, A3 I only earns 50% on UA K class.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 19, 2014, 01:09:35 AM
OW ticket on SQ do they have a free stopover?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on August 19, 2014, 01:32:15 AM
OW ticket on SQ do they have a free stopover?
No
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 22, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
What is the rate with LH miles for NYC-YUL on united or air canada?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on August 22, 2014, 07:02:23 PM
What is the rate with LH miles for NYC-YUL on united or air canada?

Doesn't pay to use LH since it's a different country. The only BIG deal for LH is that a domestic same country flight is very cheap.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 24, 2014, 06:28:39 PM
No

I called them and they charge $100 if you make a stop over but they are VERY strict with backtracking.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 24, 2014, 07:23:06 PM
What is backtracking?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 24, 2014, 09:58:14 PM
What is backtracking?

Say I fly SIN-LHR. Now in 2 months I want to fly to JFK for the $100 fee on SQ. But there are no direct flights so you have to go to FRA or MUC you now have "backtracked" you are going back towards your departure city.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 24, 2014, 10:25:26 PM
Say I fly SIN-LHR. Now in 2 months I want to fly to JFK for the $100 fee on SQ. But there are no direct flights so you have to go to FRA or MUC you now have "backtracked" you are going back towards your departure city.
So I can't book SIN-LHR stopover then FRA-JFK?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on August 24, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
IME. I booked MEL-MAN. and called to see if I can book at a later date to JFK they said NO since their wasn't any direct flights even with partners available and I would have to go to FRA. And an open jaw from FRA is probably also backtrack
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 28, 2014, 08:18:15 PM
I am trying to book TLV - FRA - JFK, flying SQ suits from FRA. their website says saver is waitlisted.

1. anyone have experience, do they typically become avil?
2. which airline flies TLV-FRA? can't seem to find any direct on united website.
3. how many total miles and YQ will it cost? and will i get the 15% web discount since TLV-FRA can't be booked online?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 28, 2014, 08:28:27 PM
I am trying to book TLV - FRA - JFK, flying SQ suits from FRA. their website says saver is waitlisted.

1. anyone have experience, do they typically become avil?
2. which airline flies TLV-FRA? can't seem to find any direct on united website.
3. how many total miles and YQ will it cost? and will i get the 15% web discount since TLV-FRA can't be booked online?

Thanks!
Waitlisted suites rarely open up. Business almost always opens close to departure.
LH.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 28, 2014, 08:44:03 PM
Waitlisted suites rarely open up. Business almost always opens close to departure.
LH.

Thanks. will LH show up in united online? i didn't see any.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 28, 2014, 08:47:41 PM
Thanks. will LH show up in united online? i didn't see any.
Yes, but availability is not great. LY is flying that route as well. I would book separate LY J for 30k AA miles and separate SQ suites with SQ miles.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 28, 2014, 08:51:36 PM
Yes, but availability is not great. LY is flying that route as well. I would book separate LY J for 30k AA miles and separate SQ suites with SQ miles.

Would i then have to recheck my bags in FRA or is there a way to get check them in TLV all the way
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 28, 2014, 08:52:48 PM
is there a way to get check them in TLV all the way?
Yes, at the airport.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 28, 2014, 09:14:48 PM
Yes, at the airport.
Even though they are not partners? How does that work
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 28, 2014, 09:28:52 PM
Even though they are not partners? How does that work
They have a baggage interline agreement.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 28, 2014, 09:49:13 PM
They have a baggage interline agreement.
Good to know.  Is there somewhere online where this information is available? (i. e. see which Airlines have agreements with others)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 28, 2014, 09:51:31 PM
Good to know.  Is there somewhere online where this information is available? (i. e. see which Airlines have agreements with others)
Expert Flyer. Free trial.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on August 28, 2014, 10:13:51 PM
Expert Flyer. Free trial.

I actually have a paid account with them, didn't realize they had this info, Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on August 28, 2014, 10:14:47 PM
I actually have a paid account with them, didn't realize they had this info, Thanks!
IIRC, they added it very recently.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on August 31, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
I want to book ORD-LHR-VIE on UA/OS, then VIE-FRA-ORD on OS/UA overnight in FRA. I  want to use Amex, would ANA be best for this? Coach

What is their cancellation policy?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2014, 09:00:48 PM
I want to book ORD-LHR-VIE on UA/OS, then VIE-FRA-ORD on OS/UA overnight in FRA. I  want to use Amex, would ANA be best for this? Coach

What is their cancellation policy?
If the transatlantic flight is on UA then YQ shouldn't be too high. I think its 37k. Cancellation policy is good I think 3000 miles. You cant book a reservation within 4 days. ( Not sure about cancellation within 4 days)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on August 31, 2014, 09:06:16 PM
If the transatlantic flight is on UA then YQ shouldn't be too high. I think its 37k. Cancellation policy is good I think 3000 miles. You can book a reservation within 4 days. ( Not sure about cancellation within 4 days)

Yes, transatlantic is on UA..

Pricing out at 55k for me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2014, 09:11:26 PM
Yes, transatlantic is on UA..

Pricing out at 55k for me.
It's distance based, from New York to LHR is 37k round trip. From ORD is probably more miles...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on August 31, 2014, 09:29:28 PM
Anyone tried using M&M on AC?
Wondering if they would charge YQ on US-CA.

Lazy to call - anyone with info shall be blessed.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
Anyone tried using M&M on AC?
Wondering if they would charge YQ on US-CA.

Lazy to call - anyone with info shall be blessed.
Not that I know the answer to this, but on which route?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on August 31, 2014, 09:59:27 PM
Not that I know the answer to this, but on which route?
Why should it matter?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2014, 10:18:01 PM
Why should it matter?
First answer my question. Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on August 31, 2014, 10:21:28 PM
First answer my question. Thanks.
It was a theoretical question. Had it been for serious trip planning I wouldn't think twice before picking up a phone.

But to feed you, let's assume its EWR-YYC.  Now what?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2014, 10:37:57 PM
It was a theoretical question. Had it been for serious trip planning I wouldn't think twice before picking up a phone.

But to feed you, let's assume its EWR-YYC.  Now what?
Nothing. Some flights from US to Canada on AC using Aeroplan points are just 15k MILES RT.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on August 31, 2014, 10:52:31 PM
Anyone tried using M&M on AC?
Wondering if they would charge YQ on US-CA.

Lazy to call - anyone with info shall be blessed.

Just an FYI: Using MM MILES on a USA-canada route is not an efficient way to use your MM miles. The attractiveness of MM is only intra country flights.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on August 31, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
It's distance based, from New York to LHR is 37k round trip. From ORD is probably more miles...

figured that much.
 Thanks though
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2014, 11:29:44 PM
Just an FYI: Using MM MILES on a USA-canada route is not an efficient way to use your MM miles. The attractiveness of MM is only intra country flights.
-1. Not when redeeming for a 6 hours flight in J.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on August 31, 2014, 11:38:55 PM
-1. Not when redeeming for a 6 hours flight in J.

Not sure what you mean. The MM chart is attractive only intra country. If it involves 2 countries, it's no big deal. Especially AC where there is YQ. Explain your -1
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2014, 11:44:42 PM
Not sure what you mean. The MM chart is attractive only intra country. If it involves 2 countries, it's no big deal. Especially AC where there is YQ. Explain your -1
So UA and CA is not 1 region?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sillypainter on September 01, 2014, 08:55:05 AM
So UA and CA is not 1 region?

You mean US and CA. No, last time I checked they're two countries.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 01, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
Here's the breakdown for a sample RT award EWR-YYC on AC J:

UA: 50k + $63.40
AC: 50k + $165.70
LH: 55k + $112.51

UA -  as much as you suck, you still rock.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MC on September 02, 2014, 12:27:42 AM
Booking UA with M&M miles can only be done over the phone?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 02, 2014, 01:09:21 AM
Booking UA with M&M miles can only be done over the phone?
correct
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MC on September 02, 2014, 01:10:49 AM

correct
Thanks.
And they have the nerve to be closed at certain hours ...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Super Speed on September 02, 2014, 01:12:41 AM

Thanks.
And they have the nerve to be closed at certain hours ...
You live in the wrong time zone! :P
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MC on September 02, 2014, 01:21:12 AM

You live in the wrong time zone! :P
Tell me about it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehoshua on September 02, 2014, 01:24:02 AM
Tell me about it
Although you can call their German call center now; they're up!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MC on September 02, 2014, 01:24:43 AM

Although you can call their German call center now; they're up!
Care to be my translator? My resident linguist is sleeping already
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Super Speed on September 02, 2014, 01:25:42 AM

Care to be my translator? My resident linguist is sleeping already
You don't speak Yiddish?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MC on September 02, 2014, 01:26:29 AM
You don't speak Yiddish?
Hardly a word
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehoshua on September 02, 2014, 01:26:45 AM
Care to be my translator? My resident linguist is sleeping already
Lol. Maybe they have an option like "for English press 2?" Their British and Australian call centers are also open though.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MC on September 02, 2014, 02:15:17 AM

Lol. Maybe they have an option like "for English press 2?" Their British and Australian call centers are also open though.
British is still closed but good call on the Australian. The accent made it fun too ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehoshua on September 02, 2014, 08:33:18 AM
British is still closed but good call on the Australian. The accent made it fun too ;)
Did it work out? Were they able to book it for you?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MC on September 02, 2014, 10:05:27 AM

Did it work out? Were they able to book it for you?
They would have been able to, but I couldn't remember/find my PIN and was too tired to keep trying
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 02, 2014, 12:46:41 PM
You live in the wrong time zone! :P

Actually I think she lives in the same time zone as the US M&M call center.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 02, 2014, 12:47:31 PM
Care to be my translator? My resident linguist is sleeping already
They speak English
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on September 03, 2014, 01:15:16 AM
Is there a fee to change a united award flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 03, 2014, 01:19:10 AM
Is there a fee to change a united award flight?
Of course.... I think $200
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 03, 2014, 01:49:32 AM
Does SQ allow routing Australia to North America via Asia?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 03, 2014, 08:42:19 AM
Does SQ allow routing Australia to North America via Asia?
Sure.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 03, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
Sure.
Yeah... And you get to be on four continents, cool!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 03, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
Yeah... And you get to be on four continents, cool!
Max of 4 segments on a one way.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 03, 2014, 02:23:57 PM
Max of 4 segments on a one way.
Yup! MEL-SIN-FRA-JFK
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 03, 2014, 02:25:08 PM
Of course.... I think $200
That's for canceling the ticket, not changing.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 03, 2014, 02:26:16 PM
Yup! MEL-SIN-FRA-JFK
Nice, just FYI no suites on the MEL-SYD flight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: The Guy on September 03, 2014, 03:57:15 PM
Of course.... I think $200

Then what's the point of booking united with them?
Some people voted UR on another thread better then MR because booking united.
But if you need a ticket from one min to next you could book with aeroplan transfers instantly could book on the spot and only $90 to change award booking.
And if you transfer in advance to ANA you could have really good deals.
Or you could transfer to SQ to book UA.

Do all of these have the same avail then united themselves?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 03, 2014, 07:04:42 PM
Then what's the point of booking united with them?
Some people voted UR on another thread better then MR because booking united.
But if you need a ticket from one min to next you could book with aeroplan transfers instantly could book on the spot and only $90 to change award booking.
And if you transfer in advance to ANA you could have really good deals.
Or you could transfer to SQ to book UA.

Do all of these have the same avail then united themselves?
Indeed. That's why I opened that thread and voted for MR.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on September 03, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Then what's the point of booking united with them?
If you cancel within 24 hours it's free and there are plenty of routes it's cheaper to book with UA then AC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 04, 2014, 12:18:48 AM
Anyone know of a website that can send me alerts on award availability for united? EF won't show united awards
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yehoshua on September 04, 2014, 12:44:32 AM
Anyone know of a website that can send me alerts on award availability for united? EF won't show united awards
I don't know of any. EF isn't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 04, 2014, 07:33:04 AM
Anyone know of a website that can send me alerts on award availability for united? EF won't show united awards
Wandr.me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 04, 2014, 11:01:01 AM
Wandr.me.
They have UA again?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 04, 2014, 11:53:00 AM
They have UA again?
It's via ANA.
Only works for direct flights.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 04, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
Nice, just FYI no suites on the MEL-SYD flight.

-0.5
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 04, 2014, 03:22:39 PM
-0.5
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to ask you for elaboration.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 04, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Thought you'd never ask.

There is currently an SQ A380 operating SIN-MEL.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 04, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
Thought you'd never ask.

There is currently an SQ A380 operating SIN-MEL.
Just a last minute equipment change or something that I'm missing?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 04, 2014, 05:17:17 PM
They don't officially yank the A380 off MEL for another 6-7 weeks or so.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 04, 2014, 05:43:07 PM
It's via ANA.
Only works for direct flights.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 04, 2014, 10:52:46 PM
It's via ANA.
Only works for direct flights.

Are there alerts sent by email or just shown on site?

I signed up but got no email confirmation
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 04, 2014, 11:18:43 PM
Are there alerts sent by email or just shown on site?

I signed up but got no email confirmation
You won't get an email until it triggers.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 08, 2014, 04:24:55 PM
Hmmm...
I wonder why
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 08, 2014, 04:54:10 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/711d3740c285ea7f17df1a038c331195.png)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 08, 2014, 04:57:23 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/711d3740c285ea7f17df1a038c331195.png)
Thanks. That's really nice.

ETA: seems to be that's only for AC metal, I tried JFK-IAD on UA metal and they charge 25k.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 08, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
Quote
* Short-haul ClassicFlight Rewards are available on Air Canada, Air Canada Express and the Canadian domestic partners.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 08, 2014, 05:04:44 PM

That's what I thought.

Gracias!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 08, 2014, 06:32:20 PM
Nothing. Some flights from US to Canada on AC using Aeroplan points are just 15k MILES RT.
@meshugener, you thought I am joking when I posted the above?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on September 08, 2014, 10:32:04 PM
@meshugener, you thought I am joking when I posted the above?
Sorry, didn't notice the point you're trying to make.

Next time please bold it or have me wear my eyeglasses.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on September 09, 2014, 11:40:16 AM
when does united typically release first class availability ? im looking for flights in November
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 09, 2014, 12:26:07 PM
when does united typically release first class availability ? im looking for flights in November
Anywhere from 2 weeks to 2-3 days before departure. No hard rules though.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on September 09, 2014, 06:54:14 PM
How about Singapore,  full price suites is available but the medium and low award show wait list.  Do those get release typically as flight gets closer or not?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 09, 2014, 06:55:41 PM
Don't count on it automatically clearing, though it does happen.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on September 10, 2014, 11:10:25 AM
whats the difference between United Global first (O) and united global first (FN) ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 10, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
whats the difference between United Global first (O) and united global first (FN) ?

Saver vs. Standard.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on September 11, 2014, 01:49:30 PM
MAD-ZRH-EWR this flight route comes up on one day 11-17-14 when searching via United. It does not come up the next day 11-18-14. Checking on ITA the MAD-ZRH route is there at the same time. is there a reason united does not show it or "fly it" the next day ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 11, 2014, 02:11:57 PM
MAD-ZRH-EWR this flight route comes up on one day 11-17-14 when searching via United. It does not come up the next day 11-18-14. Checking on ITA the MAD-ZRH route is there at the same time. is there a reason united does not show it or "fly it" the next day ?
Showing up for me.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on September 11, 2014, 02:17:12 PM
you have a picture ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 11, 2014, 02:22:53 PM
you have a picture ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on September 11, 2014, 02:30:37 PM
i meant this flight specifically. see attached if it works. it there on 11-17 but not 11-18.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 11, 2014, 02:36:27 PM
So you think every flight is always open for award?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on September 11, 2014, 03:23:12 PM
no but its not listed by price either. maybe its a noob question but i figured they run the same flights daily
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 18, 2014, 11:28:15 AM
Best program to redeem for MU J/F? Is KE the only option for F?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on September 18, 2014, 11:46:36 AM
Best program to redeem for MU J/F? Is KE the only option for F?
Wrong thread.

DL,AF,KE depends exactly what you need.

Yes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on September 21, 2014, 02:39:50 PM
What miles (transferable from UR) are the cheapest to book United saver J from US-EU?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on September 21, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
What miles (transferable from UR) are the cheapest to book United saver J from US-EU?
United.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: HolyNyc on September 22, 2014, 03:57:17 AM
United.
why how much is sq?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on September 22, 2014, 06:27:37 AM
why how much is sq?
UA = 57.5k
SQ = 65k

Fyi, AC would be 45/52.5
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on September 22, 2014, 08:33:30 AM
First time that I wanna use SQ, to book any partner flight, it needs to be called in? TLV-VIE or VIE-JFK?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chff on September 22, 2014, 08:35:15 AM
First time that I wanna use SQ, to book any partner flight, it needs to be called in? TLV-VIE or VIE-JFK?
All partner flights with SQ has to be called in
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sruly101 on September 22, 2014, 08:37:22 AM
All partner flights with SQ has to be called in
Thanks, How many miles ex-TLV to Europe? Do they have high YQ charges on european airlines?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chff on September 22, 2014, 08:38:26 AM


Thanks, How many miles ex-TLV to Europe?

Did you check their chart?

Do they have high YQ charges on european airlines?

Check on ITA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on September 22, 2014, 09:57:50 AM
Thanks, How many miles ex-TLV to Europe? Do they have high YQ charges on european airlines?
I didn't check their chart yet, but I remember that its less miles than UA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: EJB on September 23, 2014, 12:07:19 AM
I'm considering transferring miles to ANA for a trip but would like to get a sense of the fuel surcharges. Can someone with miles in their account price the fees for LHR-ZRH-TLV-ZRH-JFK in J (stick CDG-LHR to make it 'RT')
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on September 23, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
I'm considering transferring miles to ANA for a trip but would like to get a sense of the fuel surcharges. Can someone with miles in their account price the fees for LHR-ZRH-TLV-ZRH-JFK in J (stick CDG-LHR to make it 'RT')

I can't get you cost, but I can say this, if you would take the last leg from Swiss ZRH-JFK and change it to UA ZRH-EWR it would save you a couple hundred dollars (at least I think so)

Swiss has YQ charges on ANA, UA doesn't.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 29, 2014, 08:09:10 PM
I need a OW award on United from LAX to the east coast on June 23rd 2015. I am landing from an international flight and want to return to the east coast that day. I plan to book using Aeroplan so the flight needs to be available thru their system.
Yes I have spent time searching on United.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: shmebeble on September 29, 2014, 08:14:06 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0
fair
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on September 30, 2014, 02:02:05 AM
I'm considering transferring miles to ANA for a trip but would like to get a sense of the fuel surcharges. Can someone with miles in their account price the fees for LHR-ZRH-TLV-ZRH-JFK in J (stick CDG-LHR to make it 'RT')
You can call ANA and go through her finding all the legs that you have in mind and then she'll price it for you. 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on September 30, 2014, 10:19:07 PM
How should I book a LH flight to Israel? One way only..

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on September 30, 2014, 10:21:01 PM
How should I book a LH flight to Israel? One way only..
UA/LM
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on September 30, 2014, 10:22:59 PM
UA/LM

So nothing really cheaper than UA 80k then?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on September 30, 2014, 10:27:31 PM
How should I book a LH flight to Israel? One way only..

Israeli MM account = 85K in F.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on September 30, 2014, 10:30:13 PM
Israeli MM account = 85K in F.
-1, that's only from TLV.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on September 30, 2014, 10:30:23 PM
Israeli MM account = 85K in F.

Any YQ is? and what is YQ for business around?

I was actually thinking about it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on September 30, 2014, 10:48:11 PM
So nothing really cheaper than UA 80k then?
65k LM
Any YQ is? and what is YQ for business around?

I was actually thinking about it
YQ is about $400, but you only get the discount when it's ex-TLV.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: The Guy on October 01, 2014, 05:03:14 PM
Why don't you book with Singapore?

I think it's around 67.5k OW
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on October 01, 2014, 05:29:09 PM
Why don't you book with Singapore?

I think it's around 67.5k OW
It's 57.5, but $400 of YQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: HolyNyc on October 01, 2014, 05:31:09 PM
It's 57.5, but $400 of YQ.
65k LMYQ is about $400, but you only get the discount when it's ex-TLV.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on October 01, 2014, 05:34:02 PM

Your mixing 2 things up.

LM charges 65k and there NO YQ.

Then I responded to Chucky about LH, it's $400 in YQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: HolyNyc on October 01, 2014, 05:34:59 PM
Your mixing 2 things up.

LM charges 65k and there NO YQ.

Then I responded to Chucky about LH, it's $400 in YQ.
sorry about that
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on October 02, 2014, 10:18:22 AM
SQ will probably be the cheapest if you manage to do at least the first leg on UA.

ETA, besides LM of course (which is probably irrelevant. Most people don't have access to LM).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on October 02, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
can someone advise on the attached route that for 130K miles the longest leg is in X and its a Saver First ? is there any way to get around this and get the entire trip in F. also, the UA portion of the trip is in J. how does one find out if they offer an F on this route and how would you get it ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on October 02, 2014, 05:46:57 PM
can someone advise on the attached route that for 130K miles the longest leg is in X and its a Saver First ? is there any way to get around this and get the entire trip in F. also, the UA portion of the trip is in J. how does one find out if they offer an F on this route and how would you get it ?
Not sure what your question is.
Have you ever heard of "the potatoes are sold out"?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 02, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
When i search on united NYC-TLV it shows me an itinerary NYC-FRA-TLV (on LH)

but when i search FRA-TLV the same flight does not show

Any idea how to get this to show online? or any to PUTPAC



 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2014, 09:21:54 PM
When i search on united NYC-TLV it shows me an itinerary NYC-FRA-TLV (on LH)

but when i search FRA-TLV the same flight does not show

Any idea how to get this to show online? or any to PUTPAC
Married segments.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 02, 2014, 09:23:38 PM
Married segments.
Anyway around it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2014, 09:45:24 PM
Anyway around it?
Put JFK-FRA-TLV on hold, then call in and have the JFK-FRA segment removed. Have them ticket it  :)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 02, 2014, 10:15:06 PM
Put JFK-FRA-TLV on hold, then call in and have the JFK-FRA segment removed. Have them ticket it  :)
Thanks for the idea
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on October 02, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
It's a good idea but it doesn't work IME.

LH is really serious about married segments on awards.

You can try sending a request to the booking control office in Germany, but that's a far shot.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2014, 11:13:45 PM
It's a good idea but it doesn't work IME.

LH is really serious about married segments on awards.

You can try sending a request to the booking control office in Germany, but that's a far shot.
IIRC it worked by me. When should the problem occur? Once they have the proper fare class and the segment, they send it in for ticketing aaaand?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: meshugener on October 02, 2014, 11:16:47 PM
Just realized, maybe you are right.

I had an opposite problem, they had FRA-JFK and TLV-FRA available when bored separately, but not on one ticket.

After over leg was on hold, they didn't let me patch in the other segment.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 11:20:54 PM
Having the same issue with CX.
MXP-HKG and HKG-PEK are available separate but not together.
Beyond frustrating.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 02, 2014, 11:32:11 PM
That makes no sense. What logic is that? Reverse married segments? Why can't that just add the admittedly available flight to the record?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2014, 11:34:57 PM
That makes no sense. What logic is that? Reverse married segments? Why can't that just add the admittedly available flight to the record?
Because its not available. They always have to do an auto search first. When TA play around with married segments they have to put EVERYTHING in first and THEN take out. But to put in something that does not exist is not possible.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 02, 2014, 11:36:01 PM
Not available? He said it is available.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 02, 2014, 11:38:07 PM
Not available? He said it is available.
Its not available MXP-PEK. Thats married segments. You can play around with married segments by taking out legs not by putting in.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 11:42:50 PM
Yup. Totally illogical. But seemingly no way to beat it.
Trust me I've tried.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 02, 2014, 11:52:24 PM
Interesting. I always thought married meant that it's only available as connection. However, the same logic applies for two non stop flights.

It's more about origin, point of sale and inventory management than it is married segments tho.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 02, 2014, 11:56:14 PM
Worth pointing out that AA had no problem marrying the segs.
But CX only released 1 MXP-HKG partner seat, the other seat needs CX miles.

"Anti married segs" are beyond frustrating. Far worse than married segs which can be split off.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 03, 2014, 12:01:55 AM
Worth pointing out that AA had no problem marrying the segs.
But CX only released 1 MXP-HKG partner seat, the other seat needs CX miles.

"Anti married segs" are beyond frustrating. Far worse than married segs which can be split off.
So CX was the one who gave you problems to book MXP-PEK?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2014, 12:02:47 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 03, 2014, 12:29:41 AM
Worth pointing out that AA had no problem marrying the segs.
But CX only released 1 MXP-HKG partner seat, the other seat needs CX miles.

"Anti married segs" are beyond frustrating. Far worse than married segs which can be split off.

This is for your folks? I thought you already had that hooked?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 03, 2014, 12:31:17 AM
BTW Dan you can remove the *G+lifetime from your profile ;)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2014, 12:37:08 AM
This is for your folks? I thought you already had that hooked?
Messing around with dates.

BTW Dan you can remove the *G+lifetime from your profile ;)
Huh?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 03, 2014, 12:45:25 AM
Messing around with dates.
Huh?
You have lifetime *A Gold status?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2014, 12:46:34 AM
Why else would I have written that?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dr Moose on October 03, 2014, 12:48:43 AM
Why else would I have written that?
you have it from Aegean?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 03, 2014, 12:51:44 AM
you have it from Aegean?
+1

And BTW what is DL dirt?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 05, 2014, 12:34:31 AM
Say there is a flight in 36 hours, and there is only business standard but no saver. will putting the standard award on hold and releasing it within 24 hours cause it to reappear as saver?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on October 05, 2014, 12:36:02 AM
Say there is a flight in 36 hours, and there is only business standard but no saver. will putting the standard award on hold and releasing it within 24 hours cause it to reappear as saver?

No
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 05, 2014, 12:37:35 AM
No

So when will they release it as saver, only a few hours before flight? (assuming still available)

I mean they will eventually try to sell it as saver, wouldn't they?

 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 05, 2014, 12:40:48 AM
So when will they release it as saver, only a few hours before flight? (assuming still available)

I mean they will eventually try to sell it as saver, wouldn't they?
YMMV big time.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on October 05, 2014, 12:42:51 AM
So when will they release it as saver, only a few hours before flight? (assuming still available)

I mean they will eventually try to sell it as saver, wouldn't they?

As ilherman said YMMV.. Depends also what flight it is, from where to where. But I have to agree, not every flight comes back with a saver. And I believe if UA or any airline catches you doing that they can shut your account
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 05, 2014, 12:48:27 AM
As ilherman said YMMV.. Depends also what flight it is, from where to where. But I have to agree, not every flight comes back with a saver. And I believe if UA or any airline catches you doing that they can shut your account

Is that belief based on experience or just common sense
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on October 05, 2014, 01:13:05 AM
Is that belief based on experience or just common sense

common sense. and I know AA does it
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: EJB on October 07, 2014, 12:45:44 AM
What's the best mileage currency to use for 2 adults + infant on LX J from ZRH - TLV OW? SQ for 25k + YQ + Inf? Weird that SQ from Europe to ME in J is cheaper than intraeurope.

Edit: Hmm, might as well try to get seat for infant @ 25k miles + ~$150 as the infant charge is around $400
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 07, 2014, 02:45:04 AM
I'm in VIE waiting for Austrian flight to TLV.  I booked the night flight which is in 11 hours but there's a flight in 2 hours I want to get on

This is Part of a United J award on Austrian from JFK.  So the desk agent here told me she can't touch the ticket,  only United can,  but she did verify the flight has many seats left. 

United phone agent said she sees no miles ticket avil on that flight

Is there anything I can say or do to get on the earlier flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 07, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
No awards = no dice.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 07, 2014, 03:05:45 AM
No awards = no dice.

Even at gate, like standby or something?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 07, 2014, 03:14:29 AM
I've heard of crazier things.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 07, 2014, 03:15:42 AM
I've heard of crazier things.

So there is hope?

trying to make my wife happy.. (:
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 15, 2014, 07:30:18 AM
Can I add a stopover to a one way award booked with United miles
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on October 15, 2014, 07:33:53 AM

Can I add a stopover to a one way award booked with United miles

Not officially
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on October 15, 2014, 07:44:35 AM
Not officially
Meaning
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 15, 2014, 01:59:18 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/518396a2c5e2bb8d3492dba6d305ecb6.png)



Any ideas if a *G member would get any checked bags with a regular "seat" fare?

FWIW, the first NZ rep I called said "no." I'd "only be entitled to a bag if I bought the seat+bag fare, and in which case, I'd get 2.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2014, 02:05:44 PM
*G rules should require you to get a free bag.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 15, 2014, 02:12:22 PM
*G rules should require you to get a free bag.

Well, as it turns out... whatever the rules, the answer seems to be no in practice:

(http://i.gyazo.com/5c6c930ad00c8172c061c50a46633951.png)

From FT:

Quote from: Jetstreamer;18497972
A quick follow up question, what happens if you purchase grabaseat (no bags)?  Does *G get one free bag or is the only *G benefit an extra bag if you purchase +bag?

Quote from: Trumpkin;18498027
Only if you purchase +bag.

Quote from: cakiwi;21811398
As above....need to purchase a seat+bag. The seat only fares actually contradict the *A policies NZ is supposed to adhere to. Not a good look!

Quote from: FrenchCaliFlyer;21817399
That's what I would think but anyone actually paid for just the grabaseat and then got either large carryon or checked in bag at checkin just with a *A Gold (from united if that matters) ?

Quote from: cakiwi;21817475
well, no. if you use self check - the machine won't spit out a bag tag and if you go to an agent - same thing. They probably could physically override and print one, but it's not part of the ticket, which they'll no doubt remind you of.

If you're on a jet (say A320 or B737) then a carry on should be ok - but the bigger/bulkier ones that look oversized might attract attention.

If you've booked the ticket ex-USA for instance and it has a domestic connection, I would assume the ticket will take on the baggage rules of the first flight not the domestic connection, but worth checking in advance.

A grab a seat fare with no bag - includes no checked bag regardless of which card you present!




Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2014, 02:14:02 PM
Interesting.
Complain here: http://www.staralliance.com/en/contacts/request/?category=1&subCategory=1
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on October 15, 2014, 02:15:44 PM
Is there anyway to report such kind of violations to *A?

ETA: just saw Dans post.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 15, 2014, 02:24:00 PM
Interesting.
Complain here: http://www.staralliance.com/en/contacts/request/?category=1&subCategory=1

Done.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 15, 2014, 02:27:28 PM
Any thoughts on what fare I'd be booked into if I booked an award through a partner?

Would it automatically default to "seat" with no luggage?

First rep didn't know.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bubble347 on October 23, 2014, 03:43:09 PM
What's the best way to book TG F/J from BKK-NRT?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on October 23, 2014, 03:51:10 PM
What's the best way to book TG F/J from BKK-NRT?
UA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 23, 2014, 03:57:30 PM
What's the best way to book TG F/J from BKK-NRT?

15K/25K with AC + YQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on October 23, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
15K/25K with AC + YQ.
And you can only book RT.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 24, 2014, 10:22:18 AM
Any good search engine for star alliance? KVS tells me its too complex to search from BKK-MIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 24, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
Segment by segment is the only true way to do award searching.

It takes time and effort, but you can get some beautiful itineraries.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 24, 2014, 11:18:02 AM
Segment by segment is the only true way to do award searching.

It takes time and effort, but you can get some beautiful itineraries.

I am not so well versed in the cities that OW goes through...
Anyone up for the challenge? I'm willing to pay.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on October 24, 2014, 11:23:02 AM
I am not so well versed in the cities that OW goes through...
Anyone up for the challenge? I'm willing to pay.
Are you looking for Star or Oneworld?
Just search route with Matrix and then search a route you like with UA or Aeroplan.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on October 24, 2014, 11:30:12 AM
Are you looking for Star or Oneworld?
Just search route with Matrix and then search a route you like with UA or Aeroplan.

What ever has better stops/cheaper.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on October 24, 2014, 12:48:12 PM
I am not so well versed in the cities that OW goes through...
Anyone up for the challenge? I'm willing to pay.

How much?  :D

What class?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rediplus on October 29, 2014, 10:31:21 AM
i cant seem to get expert mode to display available seats. i see its on. tried deleting cookies, incognito , nada !! any suggestions on how to get it to work ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: voby27 on October 29, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
Is there a way to book ANA earlier than 4 days in advance? I found a flight on united from JFK to TLV via IST for 80,000 miles (Business) this Sunday Nov 2nd. If I can book it through ANA it's basically half the price. I have Chase UR points, Amex MR points, and SPG points available.

Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sky121 on November 06, 2014, 06:54:24 PM
Can you hold flights on ANA?
TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on November 06, 2014, 07:02:02 PM
Can you hold flights on ANA?
TIA
Officially no, but I remember someone on DDF managed to convince them to put on hold.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AharonInIsrael on November 09, 2014, 02:58:43 AM
Officially no, but I remember someone on DDF managed to convince them to put on hold.
It was @meshugener,no? (I just spent an enjoyable last few days reading through this thread :-))
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: thaber on November 09, 2014, 04:43:49 PM
booked a TLV-FRA- LAX on LH in I on the UA website. I need a second seat on that flight (could be economy) but nothing doing. I remembered that I have about 55K LH miles so I tried directly on their site, and nothing. Does anyone know if that usually opens up?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: miles on November 20, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
A new *A program on the way (http://mileageplusupdates.com/copaupdate/)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on November 20, 2014, 12:10:27 PM
A new *A program on the way (http://mileageplusupdates.com/copaupdate/)

Without a CC transfer partner, I'm not sure why this is even news :P
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on November 20, 2014, 01:13:28 PM
Without a CC transfer partner, I'm not sure why this is even news :P
Mileage programs created by Latin Americans tend to be quite fun ;D
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: shidduch on November 20, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
which are the best STAR miles to use overall including taxes/yq for NYC to PVG?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on November 20, 2014, 03:22:12 PM

which are the best STAR miles to use overall including taxes/yq for NYC to PVG?

What class
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: dan5082030 on November 20, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
If I wanna go from NY to FL or to somewhere else ( was just for a example)  the best way would be to search for a flight from NY to anywhere in the USA but with a stop in FL...  Now my question is where can I search that the connecting flight should be only in FL if I will search just for a connecting flight it will probably not show up that certain state where I want the flight should connect.  Can I search it on ana?  Where can I?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: belle on November 28, 2014, 01:31:03 AM
One way/Round trip: Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Ideally, non-stop
From: NYC
To: SFO / SJO / RNO / OAK
Departure dates: 12/24, 12/25
Return dates: 1/3, 1/4
Class: Cheapest
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: Jetblue, Delta, AA, BA

Would consider multi-city: NYC - RNO, SFO-NYC

Thank you!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on November 28, 2014, 01:31:44 AM

One way/Round trip: Round trip
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Ideally, non-stop
From: NYC
To: SFO / SJO / RNO / OAK
Departure dates: 12/24, 12/25
Return dates: 1/3, 1/4
Class: Cheapest
Seats: 2
Alliance/Airline: Jetblue, Delta, AA, BA

Would consider multi-city: NYC - RNO, SFO-NYC

Thank you!

Wrong thread
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: zandray35 on November 30, 2014, 10:42:39 PM
what are the odds of a saver award united ticket ewr-tlv opening up for 12/28 or 29?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on November 30, 2014, 10:44:31 PM
what are the odds of a saver award united ticket ewr-tlv opening up for 12/28 or 29?

Still too far away to tell..
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: zandray35 on November 30, 2014, 10:47:49 PM
Still too far away to tell..
right now they have those flights blocked out for the week before thru the week after the holidays. Do u think ill have to wait until a few days before the flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on November 30, 2014, 10:49:02 PM
right now they have those flights blocked out for the week before thru the week after the holidays. Do u think ill have to wait until a few days before the flight?

EWR-TLV or v.v. is always tough.. Will be even tougher during the holiday times. If anything you'll have to wait a couple days before or even day of.. If you get lucky.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: zandray35 on November 30, 2014, 10:50:50 PM
EWR-TLV or v.v. is always tough.. Will be even tougher during the holiday times. If anything you'll have to wait a couple days before or even day of.. If you get lucky.
thanks! then ill prob go thru poland on lot.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on December 03, 2014, 11:17:54 PM
I found a flight on united.com to LHR for 115k. They also wanted $306. Anyway to get around the fee?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 04, 2014, 07:16:26 AM
I found a flight on united.com to LHR for 115k. They also wanted $306. Anyway to get around the fee?
Nope. UK taxes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on December 07, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
Trying to put together 6 award tickets LGA-YUL-CUR on 4/2/15 with a return on 4/12/15 from CUR-NYC.

I believe there are at least 3 seats in coach and 3 in business on the YUL-CUR leg.

First time I'm playing around with complicated searches. Cant get ANA workaround to work for me. UA site doesnt show AC availability. AC allows me to book up to 3 with Aeroplan and i cant commit to 3 without the other 3.

Have 370k MR, 75k UR, 65k AA, 40k USAir (x2)

Not being very successful. Any help would be appreciated. Will post this in the need help with award travel thread as well.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 09:16:03 AM
I will be flying Singapore Air F to Fra, but I want my bags checked to Florence, I have a separate ticket from Frankfurt to Florence, I'll be taking a long 2 checked bags, according to what I'm reading there is no issue checking in bags from JFK to Florence, but the question is that on Lufthansa they only allowed one bag, will Singapore charge me for the second bag in jfk? Do they have the capability of doing that? If not how do I proceed?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on December 08, 2014, 10:30:04 AM
I will be flying Singapore Air F to Fra, but I want my bags checked to Florence, I have a separate ticket from Frankfurt to Florence, I'll be taking a long 2 checked bags, according to what I'm reading there is no issue checking in bags from JFK to Florence, but the question is that on Lufthansa they only allowed one bag, will Singapore charge me for the second bag in jfk? Do they have the capability of doing that? If not how do I proceed?
You wont have to pay for a second bag.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 10:30:39 AM
You wont have to pay for a second bag.
You're kidding? Even though I booked the Lufthansa flight with United separately ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on December 08, 2014, 10:32:12 AM
You're kidding? Even though I booked the Lufthansa flight with United separately ?
Not kidding.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 10:32:41 AM
Not kidding.
Nice thanks!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on December 08, 2014, 10:39:05 AM
I will be flying Singapore Air F to Fra, but I want my bags checked to Florence, I have a separate ticket from Frankfurt to Florence
Is Florence your only destination in Italy?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 10:40:49 AM
Is Florence your only destination in Italy?
No, multi destination
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on December 08, 2014, 10:49:22 AM
No, multi destination
If it's not too late to change your tickets, I would suggest flying into a more southern city (Rome) or northern city (Venice). Florence is smack in the middle and if you want to go to places like Rome and Venice, you'll be backtracking.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
If it's not too late to change your tickets, I would suggest flying into a more southern city (Rome) or northern city (Venice). Florence is smack in the middle and if you want to go to places like Rome and Venice, you'll be backtracking.
Thanks for your advice, but I need to get to Florence only (I've already covered  most of Italy, from Rome up to the north)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on December 08, 2014, 11:22:35 AM
Thanks for your advice, but I need to get to Florence only (I've already covered  most of Italy, from Rome up to the north)
Well, then that contradicts what you just told me. I wouldn't have chimed in otherwise.
Is Florence your only destination in Italy?
No, multi destination
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 08, 2014, 11:27:26 AM
Well, then that contradicts what you just told me. I wouldn't have chimed in otherwise.
I have a flight out of Bologna, 30 minutes away from florance. I meant I won't be going to Rome, Venice, Milan etc.... Which is a couple of hours away
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on December 08, 2014, 11:28:12 AM
I have a flight out of Bologna, 30 minutes away from florance. I meant I won't be going to Rome, Venice, Milan etc.... Which is a couple of hours away
Gotcha enjoy.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2014, 02:15:24 AM
Availability on Swiss business ZRH-JFK (using UA miles) seems impossible, I'm searching dates for the next couple of weeks and for March.
Can anyone help me out, or is this an impossible flight? 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: smart brit on December 10, 2014, 02:52:10 AM
Availability on Swiss business ZRH-JFK (using UA miles) seems impossible, I'm searching dates for the next couple of weeks and for March.
Can anyone help me out, or is this an impossible flight?
It's almost never available on any SA program!
On m&m you will have plenty of availability.
From Boston there is a better chance
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on December 10, 2014, 06:31:51 AM
Availability on Swiss business ZRH-JFK (using UA miles) seems impossible, I'm searching dates for the next couple of weeks and for March.
Can anyone help me out, or is this an impossible flight?
They tend to open a lot of seats close in on that route.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2014, 07:18:44 AM
They tend to open a lot of seats close in on that route.
Not in J (see screen shot).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on December 14, 2014, 04:05:54 PM
Interesting.
Complain here: http://www.staralliance.com/en/contacts/request/?category=1&subCategory=1

Complained same day you suggested. They got back to me... today, two months later. And they were a HUGE help  ::) ::)

Quote
I am a Star Gold. Star Gold members are to receive "one additional piece of luggage where the piece concept applies." However, it seems that Air New Zealand does not abide by these terms.  Apparently, if one purchases a regular "seat" fare (described here: http://tinyurl.com/m4mx4kz) that one does not get ANY bags (as noted here: http://tinyurl.com/oaz95ss). I called and a rep confirmed that this is in fact their policy. Please advise what's going on. Thanks.

Quote
Dear AJK,

Thank you for writing to us at the Star Alliance Help Desk.

By being a Star Alliance Gold member, and depending on the ticketing rules of your journey, you are allowed to check-in an additional 20kg (44 pounds) or one additional piece of luggage, which means you can check in three bags instead of two.

Operational matters such as baggage allowance and seat allocation are handled by the airlines themselves.
Therefore, for specific information, you will need to get in touch with the operating carrier directly.
http://www.staralliance.com/en/contacts/booking-contacts/

We hope this information is of help.

Thanks again for contacting us.

Regards,
Star Alliance Help Desk
STAR ALLIANCE
THE WAY THE EARTH CONNECTS
www.staralliance.com
 CONNECTS
www.staralliance.com

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on December 14, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
Trying to find an Air Canada non-stop flight YUL-CUR on UA website and the flight doesn't come up in a "paid" flight search but comes up when I search award flights. Any way to force it to come up on paid flight search so I can use expert mode to see award availability?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dr Moose on December 14, 2014, 08:54:37 PM


Trying to find an Air Canada non-stop flight YUL-CUR on UA website and the flight doesn't come up in a "paid" flight search but comes up when I search award flights. Any way to force it to come up on paid flight search so I can use expert mode to see award availability?

I think you can only see UA metal with expert mode
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on December 14, 2014, 09:12:15 PM

Trying to find an Air Canada non-stop flight YUL-CUR on UA website and the flight doesn't come up in a "paid" flight search but comes up when I search award flights. Any way to force it to come up on paid flight search so I can use expert mode to see award availability?

Expert mode only works with award codes for UA flights.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: hvaces42 on December 14, 2014, 09:19:25 PM
Ty DOH!!!!

So how do I know how many award seats are available in air canada flight? I need 6 and it tells me I can have 3 at a time...saver economy or saver business or some combination,  but not 6 at a time. PUTPAC?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: 36LV on January 01, 2015, 07:56:16 AM
looking to book from BKK to MEL in FEB,  with united miles 7 seats
(miles are on 3-4 United millage cards)
United claims Thai air only has 4 seats available every day...
Anyone has any idea how to get 7 people on the same flight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on January 01, 2015, 08:38:55 AM
looking to book from BKK to MEL in FEB,  with united miles 7 seats
(miles are on 3-4 United millage cards)
United claims Thai air only has 4 seats available every day...
Anyone has any idea how to get 7 people on the same flight?
Book them separately.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bruce on January 04, 2015, 01:23:41 PM
I would like to book a YYZ-LAX on AC. Can I book with LH?

If yes..

How many miles?
YQ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: thaber on January 06, 2015, 02:36:24 AM
I would like to book a YYZ-LAX on AC. Can I book with LH?

If yes..

How many miles?
YQ?
Not online. call them. redemption is 30K/55K/75K http://www.miles-and-more.com/mediapool/pdf/02/media_342646002.pdf
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: shimbo on January 06, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
How much would surcharges and taxes be to book LOT rt jfk-waw in biz through ANA? Won't show me bc I have no miles in my account.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on January 06, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
How much would surcharges and taxes be to book LOT rt jfk-waw in biz through ANA? Won't show me bc I have no miles in my account.

Go to ITA price out your trip and on the last page it says the charge there with the list of other charges
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: shimbo on January 06, 2015, 03:43:42 PM
Go to ITA price out your trip and on the last page it says the charge there with the list of other charges
Got it, thanks. Ftr YQ is $390
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 08, 2015, 06:52:23 AM
ANA Question.
I'm booking an award in Business, but one of the legs only has Economy available, if Business opens up on that leg, can i switch it to Business? Fee?
Also, can i change a segment/airline?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 14, 2015, 04:46:51 PM
ANA won't let me search partner availability, the "use star alliance member airlines" button is grayed out. Any advice
?


Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 14, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
ANA won't let me search partner availability, the "use star alliance member airlines" button is grayed out. Any advice
?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2569.msg25091#msg25091

http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2569.msg34269#msg34269
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: 3yummyboys on January 14, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
Thanks. Why do airlines make it so hard to search for availability with out an account or miles?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on January 14, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
I would like to travel in economy TLV - ZRH with swiss Air
What star alliance program will be the cheapest?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 14, 2015, 08:02:43 PM
I would like to travel in economy TLV - ZRH with swiss Air
What star alliance program will be the cheapest?
SQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on January 14, 2015, 08:04:08 PM
SQ.
How many points?
And how much is the YQ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 14, 2015, 08:26:42 PM
How many points?
And how much is the YQ?
I think 35k RT. Check ITA for YQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 15, 2015, 02:36:58 AM
I would like to travel in economy TLV - ZRH with swiss Air
What star alliance program will be the cheapest?
SQ.
LH is cheaper:

SQ:
Y = 17.5k + $121
J = 25k + $144

LH (with israel address):
Y = 15k + $121
J = 22k + $144
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on January 15, 2015, 11:42:00 AM
LH is cheaper with an Israeli address.

SQ:
Y = 17.5k + $121
J = 25k + $144

LH
Y = 15k + $121
J = 22k + $144
FTFY.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on January 15, 2015, 06:04:56 PM
FTFY.
Changing your address from USA to Israel on your LH profile takes less than a minute.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: KidOOO on January 19, 2015, 02:25:22 AM
For an AC flight TLV-YUL and SWISS flight YUL-TLV Which airline would be best to credit the miles to, and how do i update the FFN online?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mocha on January 31, 2015, 09:38:45 PM
Whats the cheapest option for booking Thai HKG-BKK-CNX?

Or in general HKG-CNX?

UA wants 17.5k
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on February 01, 2015, 12:16:51 AM
Yep, UA is the cheapest with miles.

But cash tickets are sometimes very cheap directly on TG's website or on Expedia's Thailand site - even in business class.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on February 01, 2015, 09:12:00 AM
Whats the cheapest option for booking Thai HKG-BKK-CNX?

Or in general HKG-CNX?

UA wants 17.5k
if you are doing round trip, look into AC and see if F is available.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: itsyehuda on February 05, 2015, 01:48:51 AM
KrisFlyer agent saying they can't book OS TLV-VIE-JFK flights that show on United.com

Is that true or DROPR?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: VacationLover on February 07, 2015, 06:56:43 PM
Whats the best (cheapest) way to book a short haul Swiss air flight? (ZRH-BRU)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 07, 2015, 09:51:49 PM
Whats the best (cheapest) way to book a short haul Swiss air flight? (ZRH-BRU)
For RT I think AC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: VacationLover on February 07, 2015, 09:53:58 PM
For RT I think AC.
Thanks. is OW different?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 07, 2015, 10:05:41 PM
Thanks. is OW different?
AC only allows OWs if orig/dest is NA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: VacationLover on February 07, 2015, 10:06:52 PM
AC only allows OWs if orig/dest is NA.
Wow, 30k business Rt. COOL!! thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 07, 2015, 10:22:48 PM
Wow, 30k business Rt. COOL!! thanks
Don't get exited for that business class....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: VacationLover on February 07, 2015, 10:24:41 PM
Don't get exited for that business class....
Lol i know I've done that route a dozen times
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on February 07, 2015, 10:33:00 PM
For RT I think AC.
On GCMap it's exactly 300 miles which means it's 28k RT with ANA. Question is if it prices like that.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on February 08, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
Seems like Asiana is not showing up anymore on UA.com award searches - http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2015/02/08/asiana-awards-disappeared-united-com-heres-find-space/

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: FJA on February 08, 2015, 09:23:43 PM
One way/Round trip: RT
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Non-stop
From: JFK, LGA, EWR
To: LAX, BUR, SAN
Departure dates: 4/1,2
Return dates: 4/8
Class: Any
Seats: 5
AA, Avios, UR, Skymiles
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SLMYRCB on February 09, 2015, 03:16:53 PM
Starting off in LON I need to be in TLV starting the beginning of April for a few months. Would like to spend 10 days mid August in BKK return to TLV and then eventually get back to LON at some point. What do you recommend as my best options re OJ or stopover? Should I forget the first or last leg and book it separate? Any advantages of using ANA or Singapore for this booking?

Thanx for the help!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on February 09, 2015, 10:16:35 PM
What would be the best currency to use for ANA ORD-NRT in First
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 09, 2015, 11:03:59 PM
What would be the best currency to use for ANA ORD-NRT in First

LM
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on February 09, 2015, 11:15:29 PM
LM

Don't have any of those. How can I get them and how much would it be?

Also, what would the second best be?

TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on February 11, 2015, 06:28:09 AM
Don't have any of those. How can I get them and how much would it be?

Also, what would the second best be?

TIA
Bump
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Excalibur on February 11, 2015, 11:35:45 PM
i'm trying to book a united flight using miles and more miles for a friend. it's not showing me any availability even when united does. how do i do it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 11, 2015, 11:46:21 PM
i'm trying to book a united flight using miles and more miles for a friend. it's not showing me any availability even when united does. how do i do it?
You have to PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on February 11, 2015, 11:50:13 PM
Don't have any of those. How can I get them and how much would it be?

Also, what would the second best be?

TIA

LM: 99K + $0
UA: 130K + $0
AC:  105K + $300

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on February 12, 2015, 12:21:53 AM
LM: 99K + $0
UA: 130K + $0
AC:  105K + $300
ANA would be 90k? Is there fees also?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SLMYRCB on February 12, 2015, 06:43:48 AM
Starting off in LON I need to be in TLV starting the beginning of April for a few months. Would like to spend 10 days mid August in BKK return to TLV and then eventually get back to LON at some point. What do you recommend as my best options re OJ or stopover? Should I forget the first or last leg and book it separate? Any advantages of using ANA or Singapore for this booking?

Thanx for the help!

Anyone?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 12, 2015, 07:25:21 AM
LM: 99K + $0
UA: 130K + $0
AC:  105K + $300
LM is 90k.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on February 12, 2015, 11:30:26 AM
Anyone have issues viewing UA award calendar today?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on February 12, 2015, 04:46:19 PM
I am trying to found out the best ways to get from TLV-NYC. I dont mind taking a stopover, can someone point me in the direction of discussions regarding travel to and from TLV?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 12, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
I am trying to found out the best ways to get from TLV-NYC. I dont mind taking a stopover, can someone point me in the direction of discussions regarding travel to and from TLV?

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/51626
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 15, 2015, 03:44:36 PM
Trying to book TLV-ORD -YYZ -YYC- TLV. Is this a valid route? YYZ is the final destination but want a stop in ORD and YYC about a week each. TIA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 15, 2015, 03:49:17 PM
Trying to book TLV-ORD -YYZ -YYC- TLV. Is this a valid route? YYZ is the final destination but want a stop in ORD and YYC about a week each. TIA.

With which star alliance member do you want to book this with?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 15, 2015, 03:52:51 PM
Yes. It's a week in ORD a few days in YYZ and a week in YYC and then return to TLV
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 15, 2015, 03:53:39 PM
United to avoid YQ
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 15, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
United to avoid YQ

Can't have 2 stopovers
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 15, 2015, 04:35:13 PM
It's RT. Aren't you allowed two stops?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 15, 2015, 04:59:41 PM
It's RT. Aren't you allowed two stops?

1 Stop Over. 2 Open Jaws
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on February 15, 2015, 07:27:03 PM
Anyone else having UA error every single search and wont recognize login info?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: nobiggy on February 15, 2015, 08:36:35 PM
Anyone else having UA error every single search and wont recognize login info?
-1
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 16, 2015, 03:15:41 AM
1 Stop Over. 2 Open Jaws
does this apply to AC as well?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: philbenjoe on February 16, 2015, 03:16:58 AM
Anyone else having UA error every single search and wont recognize login info?
I had that on the United app yesterday but once though.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 17, 2015, 03:11:25 PM
How can I know if LX has F space for elites?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: harrym on February 17, 2015, 04:44:14 PM
How can I know if LX has F space for elites?
I can check.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 17, 2015, 04:47:27 PM
I can check.
March 16-23.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: harrym on February 17, 2015, 05:11:20 PM
March 16-23.

Thanks.
From where to where?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 17, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
From where to where?
my bad. NYC-ZRH.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: harrym on February 17, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
No. Only 15/18   22/24
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 17, 2015, 08:25:10 PM
No. Only 15/18   22/24
THX!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ariIs on February 26, 2015, 04:46:40 PM
Hi all,

Trying to get united to price EWR -> TYO (dest) -> FRA (layover) ->TLV (stopover) -> EWR
I can find availability on all the individual flights, but when I string them together in the multiple destination tool, it errors out.
I can connect up to TLV, but adding the return segment to EWR seems to throw an error every time.
The layover in FRA is <24hr, so this show work according to the fare rules?

Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2015, 04:55:26 PM
I would guess that legally you can't cross two oceans on one ticket especially crossing the atlantic twice when your dest is the pacific, ahem... But UA does not really have any routing rules so with the right agent you should be able to get it done.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ariIs on February 26, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
I would guess that legally you can't cross two oceans on one ticket especially crossing the atlantic twice when your dest is the pacific, ahem... But UA does not really have any routing rules so with the right agent you should be able to get it done.

Well, actually only crossing each ocean once. EWR-TYO is over the pacific, TYO-TLV is not over any ocean, and TLV-EWR is over atlantic ;)
Has anyone had luck with booking this online?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2015, 08:01:40 PM
Well, actually only crossing each ocean once. EWR-TYO is over the pacific, TYO-TLV is not over any ocean, and TLV-EWR is over atlantic ;)
Has anyone had luck with booking this online?
How you getting to FRA? Via the pacific?.........
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ariIs on February 26, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
How you getting to FRA? Via the pacific?.........

I was going to do TYO -> FRA, which isn't over any ocean, then continue to TLV. It's Asia -> Europe -> Middle east routing, but since Japan is 'higher' on UAs charts than Europe and Middle east, it should be considered the destination, and FRA would only be a layover, and TLV a stopover.
(If I'm understanding routing rules correctly).
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on February 26, 2015, 11:32:28 PM
I was going to do TYO -> FRA, which isn't over any ocean, then continue to TLV. It's Asia -> Europe -> Middle east routing, but since Japan is 'higher' on UAs charts than Europe and Middle east, it should be considered the destination, and FRA would only be a layover, and TLV a stopover.
(If I'm understanding routing rules correctly).
Can you post your full routing?
Im confused.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on February 27, 2015, 02:20:57 AM
Can you post your full routing?
Im confused.
EWR -> TYO (dest) -> FRA (layover) ->TLV (stopover) -> EWR
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on March 03, 2015, 03:02:52 PM
Best mileage to use NYC-LAX in Y and best mileage to use in J?

Go .... Now .............
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on March 03, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
Best mileage to use NYC-LAX in Y and best mileage to use in J?

Go .... Now .............
LH as OW's i think is one of the better options. Especially for J.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mocha on March 08, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
whats cheapest way to use UA from EWR to AMS if they're saver is available?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on March 08, 2015, 10:00:39 PM
whats cheapest way to use UA from EWR to AMS if they're saver is available?
AC when doing a OW  .
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mimb on March 20, 2015, 04:29:19 PM
Hi All,

Any tips/advice for routing to Athens/any Greek airport from NYC using a Star Alliance member? I've been searching on UA.com but want to know what I should be doing when i want to book (which airline to book through for cheapest rates). Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on March 22, 2015, 10:55:36 AM
Does LH allow a stopover on a one way?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on March 22, 2015, 10:58:11 AM
Does LH allow a stopover on a one way?
No
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: zow on March 22, 2015, 09:22:12 PM
Hi, I apologize in advance for my ignorance...I'm sure the answer to my question is somewhere in the Forum, but I can't find it.

I have 120,000 United Mileage Plus miles. I know how to use them for United award flights and, via the United search engine, travel on partner airlines, say BOS-FRA on LH.

My question: am I able to call a partner directly, say AC, and use United Mileage Plus miles for an AC award flight?

Thanks in advance for your guidance.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on March 22, 2015, 09:23:58 PM
Hi, I apologize in advance for my ignorance...I'm sure the answer to my question is somewhere in the Forum, but I can't find it.

I have 120,000 United Mileage Plus miles. I know how to use them for United award flights and, via the United search engine, travel on partner airlines, say BOS-FRA on LH.

My question: am I able to call a partner directly, say AC, and use United Mileage Plus miles for an AC award flight?

Thanks in advance for your guidance.
No. It must be booked through United
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: zow on March 22, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
Thanks, D93.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mimb on March 24, 2015, 11:45:13 AM
Any updates on this?

Hi All,

Any tips/advice for routing to Athens/any Greek airport from NYC using a Star Alliance member? I've been searching on UA.com but want to know what I should be doing when i want to book (which airline to book through for cheapest rates). Thanks
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 23, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
Can i only book Lufthansa Biz on UA JFK - LAX at the 17k OW rate only if there is a saver award or any award? Thanks.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: coralsnake on April 23, 2015, 08:59:54 AM
Can i only book Lufthansa Biz on UA JFK - LAX at the 17k OW rate only if there is a saver award or any award? Thanks.
Only Saver can be booked with partners.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on April 23, 2015, 09:22:53 AM
Only Saver can be booked with partners.

figured, thanks. Do UA saver open up closer to the time or its not as usual as AA?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bznt on April 23, 2015, 09:24:01 AM
On a multi destination route  does the trip have to end in the same city we've it started? 

I am trying to book nyc > bud with a 6 hour stopover in fra. Then open jaw waw > prg. Errors out on united. If I add prg > nyc they let me.
Choosing United to avoid YQ on LH. And planing to return prg > nyc or Vie > nyc with AC in business. Do I have petter options ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: coralsnake on April 23, 2015, 10:01:40 AM
figured, thanks. Do UA saver open up closer to the time?
Yes.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bznt on April 23, 2015, 04:14:40 PM
Is there a ☆ alliance member that will allow a 1 way with a stopover less then 24 hours  ? Waw -prg - nyc ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: eis517 on April 23, 2015, 04:20:41 PM
What are the best miles to use to book AC from YYZ-TLV RT in Business?

Also, is there a way to buy a coach ticket on AC and use miles to upgrade to business?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on April 23, 2015, 09:37:00 PM
Is there a ☆ alliance member that will allow a 1 way with a stopover less then 24 hours  ? Waw -prg - nyc ?
Who doesn't?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bznt on April 23, 2015, 09:37:52 PM
When I try to do it on AC. It errors out
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on April 23, 2015, 09:42:52 PM
When I try to do it on AC. It errors out
Try calling in. Shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Sport on April 24, 2015, 02:27:16 PM
 I've gotten to the point where I need to reach out to the ddf family for help. After reading through various threads, ddms posts and asking in the beginerz thread, I found on ANAs sight  business award availbilty. I first called untied to try and book but that was a no-go, the reps I spoke to all couldnt see any saver award space (even after asking them to look at the specific flight numbers that ANA showed). I then called SQ, and was also told that they cant see any availbiltiy.
Does this make sense? If ANA is showing availability shouldn't I be able to booK it on SQ? Am I mistaken or am I doing something wrong ?
Tia for any advice.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on April 24, 2015, 02:45:56 PM
I've gotten to the point where I need to reach out to the ddf family for help. After reading through various threads, ddms posts and asking in the beginerz thread, I found on ANAs sight  business award availbilty. I first called untied to try and book but that was a no-go, the reps I spoke to all couldnt see any saver award space (even after asking them to look at the specific flight numbers that ANA showed). I then called SQ, and was also told that they cant see any availbiltiy.
Does this make sense? If ANA is showing availability shouldn't I be able to booK it on SQ? Am I mistaken or am I doing something wrong ?
Tia for any advice.
Flight details?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Sport on April 24, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
Flight details?
Departing: 7/12 Nyc to Zurich fl# Lx017
Zurich- Tlv fl # lx 254
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on April 24, 2015, 03:01:52 PM
Departing: 7/12 Nyc to Zurich fl# Lx017
Zurich- Tlv fl # lx 254
Why are you searching on ANA and not UA? Just curious.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Sport on April 24, 2015, 03:04:20 PM
Why are you searching on ANA and not UA? Just curious.
UA doesnt show all flights. (at least thats what I thought I ascertained from my readings)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on April 26, 2015, 09:29:09 PM
If I book "phantom" availability on ANA (its only showing up there) will I actually get ticketed?

Does the old workaround work anymore for one ways?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Sport on April 28, 2015, 09:21:59 AM
I've gotten to the point where I need to reach out to the ddf family for help. After reading through various threads, ddms posts and asking in the beginerz thread, I found on ANAs sight  business award availbilty. I first called untied to try and book but that was a no-go, the reps I spoke to all couldnt see any saver award space (even after asking them to look at the specific flight numbers that ANA showed). I then called SQ, and was also told that they cant see any availbiltiy.
Does this make sense? If ANA is showing availability shouldn't I be able to booK it on SQ? Am I mistaken or am I doing something wrong ?
Tia for any advice.
Bump. Anybody able to advise me ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on April 29, 2015, 01:49:43 AM
Bump. Anybody able to advise me ?
It's probably phantom availability,
(Meaning in reality it isn't available, but mistakenly shows up in ANA's system)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on April 29, 2015, 01:52:35 AM
It's probably phantom availability,
(Meaning in reality it isn't available, but mistakenly shows up in ANA's system)
could he possibly request a long sell?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on April 29, 2015, 01:56:21 AM
could he possibly request a long sell?
A long sell Is a big YMMV, but he'll have to use United's miles for that.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 29, 2015, 02:02:57 AM
A long sell Is a big YMMV, but he'll have to use United's miles for that.
Why? The same way UA can long sell, SQ can long sell as well.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on April 29, 2015, 02:06:51 AM
Why? The same way UA can long sell, SQ can long sell as well.
+1 though getting an agent to even know what it is, is a daunting task

Do you know which airlines are easier to request it on?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Ez on April 29, 2015, 02:07:55 AM
Why? The same way UA can long sell, SQ can long sell as well.

But you think SQ can long sell on UA metal?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on April 29, 2015, 02:10:55 AM
Im having trouble getting AC to long sell me an LX flight that ANA shows as phantom availability

its like they dont even know what it is ???
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on April 29, 2015, 02:12:24 AM
But you think SQ can long sell on UA metal?
Sure.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on April 29, 2015, 02:17:28 AM
Sure.
any experience with getting AC to long sell you a flight?

What can I tell them to get them to understand?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: keemster26 on April 29, 2015, 02:19:35 AM
any experience with getting AC to long sell you a flight?

What can I tell them to get them to understand?
What does the term "long sell" mean?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on April 29, 2015, 03:28:51 AM
Im having trouble getting AC to long sell me an LX flight that ANA shows as phantom availability

its like they dont even know what it is ???
AC agents happen to be among the best in the business.

You tried feeding them each segment at a time? Giving the the flight numbers?

Did you call UA and see if they could see it?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on April 29, 2015, 08:42:39 AM
AC agents happen to be among the best in the business.

You tried feeding them each segment at a time? Giving the the flight numbers?

Did you call UA and see if they could see it?
yes almost all the segments they can see, the one they cant and ANA can is ZRH-EWR

I'm just wondering whether its phantom availability that ANA is mistakenly showing or can I book it with a long sell...But I also dont have miles in ANA to check to see if It would let me book all the way through

UA, AC, SQ all dont show it, only ANA does.....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: shwarmabob on May 05, 2015, 11:29:52 PM
Quote
Trying to get united to price EWR -> TYO (dest) -> FRA (layover) ->TLV (stopover) -> EWR
I can find availability on all the individual flights, but when I string them together in the multiple destination tool, it errors out.
I can connect up to TLV, but adding the return segment to EWR seems to throw an error every time.
The layover in FRA is <24hr, so this show work according to the fare rules?
Any luck with this? Pls update your results.
Title: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on May 06, 2015, 02:58:05 AM
It seems ANA is showing a lot of phantom availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on May 06, 2015, 08:43:52 AM
It seems ANA is showing a lot of phantom availability.
Just I would love to find someone with ANA points to actually see if they could go threw and book one of them....
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 11, 2015, 06:28:54 PM
I'm looking to fly Lufthansa for jfk-tlv via Germany to avoid infant charge. I don't have any M&M or Starwood points. What is the best way to go about finding availability, and booking the award ticket ? TIA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on May 11, 2015, 06:33:25 PM
I'm looking to fly Lufthansa for jfk-tlv via Germany to avoid infant charge. I don't have any M&M or Starwood points. What is the best way to go about finding availability, and booking the award ticket ? TIA
check UA for availability, and to avoid YQ, though M&M does have expanded availability
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 11, 2015, 07:05:09 PM

check UA for availability, and to avoid YQ, though M&M does have expanded availability
Just making sure I understood. So I would be booking a Lufthansa flight with United miles ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: DMYD on May 11, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
Just making sure I understood. So I would be booking a Lufthansa flight with United miles ?
You won't avoid paying for your infant with booking with United.

You plan on flying J or Y?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 11, 2015, 08:40:29 PM

You won't avoid paying for your infant with booking with United.

You plan on flying J or Y?
I want to fly y.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: DMYD on May 11, 2015, 08:41:28 PM
I want to fly y.
Probably cheaper to pay then use UA miles
Title: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 11, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
Probably cheaper to pay then use UA miles
I'm sorry. I meant j- business. I'm still getting used to the travel acronyms.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on May 12, 2015, 01:53:09 AM
Just making sure I understood. So I would be booking a Lufthansa flight with United miles ?

You won't avoid paying for your infant with booking with United.

You plan on flying J or Y?
+1 just trying to say that united is a great way to search for lh
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: shmuels2 on May 19, 2015, 03:09:14 PM
I'm trying to book HNL>MCO through LAX on 8/3 with Singapore. Saver availability shows up for the full itinerary on United.com, and I can even reserve it, but when I or the Singapore agent search for the LAX>MCO portion it doesn't show up. I am not logged in to my United account. 

What gives? Any ideas?

Edit: I am searching for 2 seats
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: shmuels2 on May 19, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
I'm trying to book HNL>MCO through LAX on 8/3 with Singapore. Saver availability shows up for the full itinerary on United.com, and I can even reserve it, but when I or the Singapore agent search for the LAX>MCO portion it doesn't show up. I am not logged in to my United account. 

What gives? Any ideas?

Edit: I am searching for 2 seats

I needed to search for the connecting flight the next day. Duh. The agent should've known that.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mech on May 19, 2015, 05:02:08 PM
I've been searching on UA.com for a flight from Tlv-bkk in late July, early aug. There are no direct flights showing but when I search for a paid flight on matrix, a Thai (star alliance member) shows up as a direct flight operated by elal. Is there any star alliance member that would allow me to book this as a Thai award ticket or since it is operated by elal, it's not possible to book it thru star alliance?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
I've been searching on UA.com for a flight from Tlv-bkk in late July, early aug. There are no direct flights showing but when I search for a paid flight on matrix, a Thai (star alliance member) shows up as a direct flight operated by elal. Is there any star alliance member that would allow me to book this as a Thai award ticket or since it is operated by elal, it's not possible to book it thru star alliance?

No.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Mech on May 19, 2015, 05:41:10 PM

No.
Bummer. Thanx
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: isaacsi on May 27, 2015, 02:00:58 PM
Hi guys there
 is a city in europe that lifemiles considered as a USA citi for award travel
somone now the name?? 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on May 28, 2015, 08:23:55 AM
Boro Park
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Redbull3 on May 29, 2015, 01:28:39 PM
Can someone confirm I have this correct:
There is an air canada flight tlv-yyz-lga that I see on UA.com I would like to book for 2 pax. I only have chase points. My choices are 85K united miles with no YQ, or 75K singapore with YQ, to book this flight.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: leaf on May 29, 2015, 04:44:27 PM
Is it possible to book with Krisflyer miles J or F award flights that Lufthansa shows as available (on LH metal) but United does not show as available?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Proisrael on May 30, 2015, 11:05:26 PM

Why am I showing availability for Saaver award and when I called United they could not find it on their system. I am looking to book LGA-OGG RT and they cannot find on their systems the Saaver award. Anyone have insight?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: sammy n on May 31, 2015, 01:11:14 AM
Why am I showing availability for Saaver award and when I called United they could not find it on their system. I am looking to book LGA-OGG RT and they cannot find on their systems the Saaver award. Anyone have insight?
Trying getting the flight online and see if it's really available. Sometimes it shows it is but when clicking it says "sorry this flight is no longer available"
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Proisrael on May 31, 2015, 01:19:54 AM
It lets me go through all the way
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on May 31, 2015, 09:16:24 AM
Why am I showing availability for Saaver award and when I called United they could not find it on their system. I am looking to book LGA-OGG RT and they cannot find on their systems the Saaver award. Anyone have insight?
Are you a UA CC holder?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Proisrael on May 31, 2015, 11:06:42 AM
Are you a UA CC holder?
Yes
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on May 31, 2015, 11:12:43 AM
Yes
I'd guess it was expended availability. You should give the agent your FF #.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Proisrael on May 31, 2015, 11:22:16 AM
I'd guess it was expended availability. You should give the agent your FF #.

I did and they claimed they logged on to my account and could not find it. Something is fishy. This is what shows on my screen.


2 Award    90,000 miles
Additional taxes/fees    $22.40
Total Price   90,000 Miles and $22.40

Want to save your miles? Consider one of these options.
Purchase this Reservation in Economy for $2,096.34 without redeeming miles
Purchase
Purchase this Reservation in First/Business Class for $3,962.56 without redeeming miles
Purchase
Flight Details
Mon., Jul. 27, 2015 | New York, NY (LGA - LaGuardia) to Maui, HI (OGG)
Depart:
7:05 a.m.
Mon., Jul. 27, 2015
New York, NY (LGA - LaGuardia)
Arrive:
8:34 a.m.
Mon., Jul. 27, 2015
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time:
2 hr 29 mn   
Flight: UA1604
Aircraft: Boeing 737-700
Fare Class: United Economy (XN)
Meal: Food and Beverages for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Change Planes. Connect time in Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare) is 56 minutes.
Depart:
9:30 a.m.
Mon., Jul. 27, 2015
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Arrive:
1:25 p.m.
Mon., Jul. 27, 2015
Maui, HI (OGG)
Flight Time:
8 hr 55 mn

Travel Time:
12 hr 20 mn   
Flight: UA202
Aircraft: Boeing 777-200
Fare Class: United Economy (XN)
Meal: Food for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Tue., Aug. 4, 2015 | Maui, HI (OGG) to New York, NY (LGA - LaGuardia)
Depart:
9:25 p.m.
Tue., Aug. 4, 2015
Maui, HI (OGG)
Arrive:
5:08 a.m. +1 Day
Wed., Aug. 5, 2015
San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Flight Time:
4 hr 43 mn   
Flight: UA1557
Aircraft: Boeing 757-300
Fare Class: United Economy (XN)
Meal: Food and Beverages for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Change Planes. Connect time in San Francisco, CA (SFO) is 42 minutes.
Depart:
5:50 a.m.
Wed., Aug. 5, 2015
San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Arrive:
11:54 a.m.
Wed., Aug. 5, 2015
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time:
4 hr 4 mn   
Flight: UA734
Aircraft: Boeing 757-200
Fare Class: United Economy (XN)
Meal: Food for Purchase
No Special Meal Offered.
Change Planes. Connect time in Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare) is 1 hour 6 minutes.
Depart:
1:00 p.m.
Wed., Aug. 5, 2015
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Arrive:
4:16 p.m.
Wed., Aug. 5, 2015
New York, NY (LGA - LaGuardia)
Flight Time:
2 hr 16 mn

Travel Time:
12 hr 51 mn   
Flight: UA2048
Aircraft: Airbus A320
Fare Class: United Economy (XN)
Meal: Food and Bever
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on May 31, 2015, 12:29:02 PM
Try looking through expert mode.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: avadah on June 01, 2015, 04:44:46 PM
Does SQ not offer service to TLV, even on alliance partners? It doesn't recognize TLV as an airport.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 01, 2015, 05:18:49 PM
It does. PUTPAC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on June 01, 2015, 08:09:37 PM
Any tips on booking A3 Flights, they never seem to open up?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Proisrael on June 02, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
Where can I see how many seats are available in each class on United?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: JoeCha on June 02, 2015, 07:49:10 PM
UA Expert Mode.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: chucksterace on June 03, 2015, 07:07:00 PM
How much is SQ TLV-FRA-JFK in Business to Suites
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 04, 2015, 08:47:53 AM
How much is SQ TLV-FRA-JFK in Business to Suites
To change?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: leaf on June 04, 2015, 12:18:07 PM
How much is SQ TLV-FRA-JFK in Business to Suites
SQ doesn't fly TLV-FRA so I assume you mean on *A for that segment. I believe SQ would charge 75 OW (F rate for Middle East). For J the whole way it would be 57.5.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: leaf on June 04, 2015, 12:57:05 PM
How can I view LH J&F availability (with M&M) if I only have 500 miles in LH account? http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/02/15/create-lufthansa-first-class-award-availability-alerts/ was saying that Expertflyer shows I and O, but I looked at several dates (including within 15 days out) and don't see anythings available.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 07, 2015, 09:54:39 AM
Is LX supposed to show up on AC search? I see availability searching through ANA but not on AC's website. Should be bookable by AC?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on June 07, 2015, 10:24:30 AM
Is LX supposed to show up on AC search? I see availability searching through ANA but not on AC's website. Should be bookable by AC?
ANA has been showing a lot of phantom availability since they changed their system.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AharonInIsrael on June 07, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
How can I view LH J&F availability (with M&M) if I only have 500 miles in LH account? http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/02/15/create-lufthansa-first-class-award-availability-alerts/ was saying that Expertflyer shows I and O, but I looked at several dates (including within 15 days out) and don't see anythings available.
You can search m&m's website for availability (just can't click through without the miles)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on June 08, 2015, 04:30:50 PM
If flights show up on UA does that mean, that Its also available using AC ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jaywhy on June 08, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
WATT *A alerts no longer work :(
Anyone know of alternatives?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on June 08, 2015, 07:38:45 PM
WATT *A alerts no longer work :(
Anyone know of alternatives?

Yup, stinks.

Don't believe there are any.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2015, 05:17:07 PM
Does NH actually have better M&M space than AC/UA or is it phantom?
EG, GVA-JFK on 07/13 for 2 pax in Y.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: leaf on June 09, 2015, 05:44:20 PM
Does NH actually have better M&M space than AC/UA or is it phantom?
EG, GVA-JFK on 07/13 for 2 pax in Y.
Seeing similar space on LX J for many dates and routes on NH that does not show on AC/UA.  However, Expert flyer says the award space is available.  Haven't called yet. 
Please report if you find out anything. 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on June 09, 2015, 08:16:09 PM
I booked a flight on united.com   BSL - MIA in economy on Lufthansa.  30K + $73.
If I booked it through Miles and More, how much would it cost?  miles and $.
Would there be any benefit to cancelling on united and booking it through Lufthansa?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Joe4007 on June 09, 2015, 10:39:52 PM


I booked a flight on united.com   BSL - MIA in economy on Lufthansa.  30K + $73.
If I booked it through Miles and More, how much would it cost?  miles and $.
Would there be any benefit to cancelling on united and booking it through Lufthansa?
Connection in FRA? Same amount of miles + approx $230. Would be a waste of money to book it with M&M.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on June 09, 2015, 11:50:58 PM
Does NH actually have better M&M space than AC/UA or is it phantom?
EG, GVA-JFK on 07/13 for 2 pax in Y.
I had the same question, but Im not gonna transfer into ANA just to test it, if you know anybody that would be willing to try and book the NH availability that know one else can see please let us know
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on June 10, 2015, 12:03:34 AM
Connection in FRA? Same amount of miles + approx $230. Would be a waste of money to book it with M&M.
Thanks. 
And keeping it this way works better for me.  ( I have the united pts in my account (new 55K offer) and my platinum has united for it's $200 reimbursement.)  I just didn't want to short change my brother.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:28:27 AM
Seeing similar space on LX J for many dates and routes on NH that does not show on AC/UA.  However, Expert flyer says the award space is available.  Haven't called yet. 
Please report if you find out anything. 
Called UA, nada.

Seems like NH has access to extra M&M space to me...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on June 10, 2015, 01:30:27 AM
Called UA, nada.

Seems like NH has access to extra M&M space to me...
Were you able to confirm the space with NH?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: leaf on June 10, 2015, 01:30:42 AM
Called UA, nada.

Seems like NH has access to extra M&M space to me...
Interesting.  Does Expert flyer show M&M extra space? B/c they were showing same availability as NH. 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:36:53 AM
Were you able to confirm the space with NH?
I took it to the payment page. Seems legit.

Interesting.  Does Expert flyer show M&M extra space? B/c they were showing same availability as NH. 
Where do they pull their data from?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: leaf on June 10, 2015, 01:42:21 AM
I took it to the payment page. Seems legit.
Where do they pull their data from?
Don't know.  But they only show LX award space, not LH.  Showing a lot of availability on many dates on LX, more or less mirroring NH...
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on June 10, 2015, 01:42:34 AM
I took it to the payment page. Seems legit.
Where do they pull their data from?
Maybe call them to see if they can hold it for you? Tell them that you just wanna see if the flights confirm. Regardless, we saw these things with AC having better availability on LH F etc. I guess its some king of glitch.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:44:46 AM
Maybe call them to see if they can hold it for you? Tell them that you just wanna see if the flights confirm. Regardless, we saw these things with AC having better availability on LH F etc. I guess its some king of glitch.
Not that desperate to know 100%. IMHO it's very likely legit.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: a mirrer on June 10, 2015, 03:03:51 PM
not sure if this is the right place but copa connect is now alive and giving 2000 miles for joining until june 30here (http://connectmiles.copaair.com/en/enrollment#DynamicEnrollment)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MEIR613 on June 11, 2015, 07:20:32 AM
Yes, NH has extra space on LX. Not sure if it matches  exactly to M&M though.

Also, EF can only search LX via M&M and not what's available to other *A.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on June 11, 2015, 07:29:38 AM
Yes, NH has extra space on LX. Not sure if it matches  exactly to M&M though.

Also, EF can only search LX via M&M and not what's available to other *A.
NH is also showing what appears to be phantom availability on CA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on June 15, 2015, 02:09:55 PM
Could I book CA code-share with *A miles
For example CA code-shares a flight with LY from TLV-PEK could I book it with any *A partners?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on June 15, 2015, 04:21:13 PM
Is there a beginner, step by step directions, on how to search star alliance availability on ANA ? I keep on getting messed up, and even after a few google searches, I can't figure it out.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on June 15, 2015, 04:33:23 PM
Can someone please figure out a way to book OW's with the new ANA award chart??
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2015, 11:20:46 PM
Can someone please figure out a way to book OW's with the new ANA award chart??
Does the old method no longer work?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: EJB on June 20, 2015, 11:22:09 PM
Does the old method no longer work?

I haven't gotten it to work since the new award chart
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Zkpncs48 on June 21, 2015, 01:49:19 AM
does the old ANA search workaround still work? I cant seem to get it to work. I had no problem on the old website.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on June 21, 2015, 04:40:13 AM
does the old ANA search workaround still work? I cant seem to get it to work. I had no problem on the old website.
Which workaround?

The OW trick no longer works

But if your talking about the ANA trick for searching availability, you no longer need, they allow you to search for partner availability without points
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Einstein on June 21, 2015, 04:41:03 AM
Does the old method no longer work?
apparently not, if anybody has a new idea, would love to hear
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on June 21, 2015, 02:31:53 PM
Could I book CA code-share with *A miles
For example CA code-shares a flight with LY from TLV-PEK could I book it with any *A partners?
Bump
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on June 21, 2015, 03:32:43 PM
Bump
To make sure I understand your question, you wanna know if a flight operated by El Al and it has a CA flight number if it can be booked with *A miles like UA, no.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: stokes on June 25, 2015, 10:54:51 PM
Which workaround?

The OW trick no longer works

But if your talking about the ANA trick for searching availability, you no longer need, they allow you to search for partner availability without points

i am trying to book JFK to LAX on united via ANA for November- having no luck using the new search tool even though i know the flights are available on united.
can this still be done with the new ANA award search tool ? 

how many ANA miles is JFK/LAX in BF?

Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on June 26, 2015, 02:02:35 AM
i am trying to book JFK to LAX on united via ANA for November- having no luck using the new search tool even though i know the flights are available on united.
can this still be done with the new ANA award search tool ? 
ANA can't book OW
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how many ANA miles is JFK/LAX in BF?
55k RT
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: a mirrer on June 26, 2015, 02:19:51 AM
i am trying to book JFK to LAX on united via ANA for November- having no luck using the new search tool even though i know the flights are available on united.
can this still be done with the new ANA award search tool ? 

how many ANA miles is JFK/LAX in BF?
United is stopping jfk service on october 25 and moving everything to ewr
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/68180
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: stokes on June 26, 2015, 07:56:35 AM
United is stopping jfk service on october 25 and moving everything to ewr
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/68180

Anyone want to trade 100 k United points for 100k mr?
Title: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 11:14:54 AM
Is there anyway to combine NYC-WAW and WAW-TLV On LOT into one award when the stopover will be more then 24 hrs. or do I have to book it as two separate flights ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 11:20:42 AM
Is there anyway to combine NYC-WAW and WAW-TLV On LOT into one award when the stopover will be more then 24 hrs. or do I have to book it as two separate flights ?

Book as a round trip on UA.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 12:07:30 PM

Book as a round trip on UA.
I don't want to stop over in WAW on the way back, so it's going to be one way.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
I don't want to stop over in WAW on the way back, so it's going to be one way.

You don't have to stop at the same connecting point on the inbound as the outbound.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 12:16:17 PM

You don't have to stop at the same connecting point on the inbound as the outbound.
Sorry for not being clearer. I'm flying into Venice on the way back, and therefore I can't use united.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 12:51:11 PM
Sorry for not being clearer. I'm flying into Venice on the way back, and therefore I can't use united.

I don't see why that precludes UA. What else haven't you been clear about?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 12:54:01 PM

I don't see why that precludes UA. What else haven't you been clear about?
UA has no direct flights to VCE.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 06, 2015, 12:59:30 PM
UA has no direct flights to VCE.
Partners have flights with a connection.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 01:03:38 PM
Can I work out the same itinerary using AC or will it only work with united ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 06, 2015, 01:06:31 PM
Can I work out the same itinerary using AC or will it only work with united ?
Yes, but by booking with AC, it will incure paying fuel surcharges for most carriers.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 01:19:10 PM
UA has no direct flights to VCE.

Well, that's what you left out. Your post implies you will not fly anything but non-stop ("direct" is an often-used, but incorrect term).

Partners have flights with a connection.

Yup.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 01:21:21 PM

Well, that's what you left out. Your post implies you will not fly anything but non-stop ("direct" is an often-used, but incorrect term).
What's the diff. bet. Non stop, and direct to ones destination ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 01:37:43 PM
What's the diff. bet. Non stop, and direct to ones destination ?

http://bfy.tw/gBS
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 04:06:47 PM

Well, that's what you left out. Your post implies you will not fly anything but non-stop ("direct" is an often-used, but incorrect term).

Yup.

I'm a bit confused about this whole routing. Are you saying I can route with either UA or AC the following itinerary NYC-WAW- TLV, TLV- X -VCE- X -NYC on one round trip ticket ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 04:13:26 PM

I'm a bit confused about this whole routing. Are you saying I can route with either UA or AC the following itinerary NYC-WAW- TLV, TLV- X -VCE- X -NYC on one round trip ticket ?

Yes. You're entitled to a stopover with UA and two stopovers (or one stopover + one open jaw) with AC.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 06, 2015, 04:18:44 PM

Yes. You're entitled to a stopover with UA and two stopovers (or one stopover + one open jaw) with AC.
So then the above itinerary would only work with AC, since there are no star alliance "non stop" flights from TLV-VCE or VCE-NYC, correct ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ilherman on July 06, 2015, 04:21:38 PM
So then the above itinerary would only work with AC, since there are no star alliance "non stop" flights from TLV-VCE or VCE-NYC, correct ?
A stopover less than 24 hours is not considerd a stopover.

AJ, get back to work, I will take care of him.  ;D
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 06, 2015, 04:22:46 PM
So then the above itinerary would only work with AC, since there are no star alliance "non stop" <img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji6.png" /> flights from TLV-VCE or VCE-NYC, correct ?

Correct, there are no *A non-stops TLV-VCE.

UA has a seasonal non-stop VCE-EWR.

A stopover less than 24 hours is not considerd a stopover.

AJ, get back to work, I will take care of him.  ;D

I leave him in your capable hands.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: milechazzer on July 07, 2015, 02:18:18 AM
I've been trying to search on United for non-stop award availability for VIE-NYC around Sep 7th, and I don't see any of Austrian Airlines nonstop flights showing up, although it does show Austrian connecting flights. Should nonstop Austrian flights be available through United, and why wouldn't they VIE-EWR and VIE-JFK flights be showing up in the search?

thx
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 07, 2015, 02:22:54 AM
I've been trying to search on United for non-stop award availability for VIE-NYC around Sep 7th, and I don't see any of Austrian Airlines nonstop flights showing up, although it does show Austrian connecting flights. Should nonstop Austrian flights be available through United
If there's availability, yes.
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and why wouldn't they VIE-EWR and VIE-JFK flights be showing up in the search?
Because it's not available.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: milechazzer on July 08, 2015, 10:04:44 PM
If there's availability, yes. Because it's not available.

Thanks. I was wondering about that since I didn't see availability on any other dates that I checked, but I now I see some on a few dates in the vicinity.


If I'm looking to book the following itinerary with star alliance airlines (and stop over in each city for several days), would any airline allow this to be booked at a regular round trip award rate:
NYC-BRU
BRU-PRG
PRG-VIE
VIE-NYC

thx
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: @Yehuda on July 08, 2015, 10:11:31 PM
Thanks. I was wondering about that since I didn't see availability on any other dates that I checked, but I now I see some on a few dates in the vicinity.


If I'm looking to book the following itinerary with star alliance airlines (and stop over in each city for several days), would any airline allow this to be booked at a regular round trip award rate:
NYC-BRU
BRU-PRG
PRG-VIE
VIE-NYC

thx
I feel like it might be possible on ANA. You're basically looking for a program that will allow 2 stopovers on a RT.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 09, 2015, 12:34:00 AM
You're basically looking for a program that will allow 2 stopovers on a RT.
AC allows it.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 09, 2015, 03:00:07 PM
Any reason why the non stop award option of NYC-ZRH doesn't come up on EF ? It keeps on routing he through GVA ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: bznt on July 16, 2015, 01:54:35 AM
Thee is a swiss flight none stop zrh to ewr on August 4th. What are my options to book it using miles ?

Not available on air Canada or united. It's available on Lufthansa which use the same miles and more as swiss but with high fuel fees
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 16, 2015, 02:09:05 AM
Thee is a swiss flight none stop zrh to ewr on August 4th. What are my options to book it using miles ?

Not available on air Canada or united. It's available on Lufthansa which use the same miles and more as swiss but with high fuel fees
It'll probably open up to AC/UA closer in. If you are not willing to wait, LH is your only choice.

If you are booking RT check ANA to see if it's available, but they also charge YQ.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 19, 2015, 03:30:53 PM
Can *A airlines book Silk Air flights?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ckmk47 on July 24, 2015, 12:47:31 AM
Used UA to book on Austrian airlines.  I have the UA confirmation code.  How do I get the Austrian confirmation code?  I want to order kosher food and book a seat.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 24, 2015, 02:15:59 AM
Used UA to book on Austrian airlines.  I have the UA confirmation code.  How do I get the Austrian confirmation code?  I want to order kosher food and book a seat.
Go to the United reservation online and you'll see right under your United confirmation number it says "This reservation contains partner flights. View additional confirmation numbers." Click that and you'll see your Austrian confirmation number. 
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: AJK on July 24, 2015, 08:30:24 AM
That didn't work for me this week. And UA didn't have the partner PNR either. Had to call OS and get it from them using tkt #.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on July 30, 2015, 09:45:25 AM
I want to book First (2 cabin flight) to fly on united from IAD-ROM, united wants 57,500 (1 way) is there a cheaper airlien to use to book the ticket and put me on UA, such as booking it via Singapore?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 30, 2015, 10:19:12 AM
I want to book First (2 cabin flight) to fly on united from IAD-FCO, united wants 57,500 (1 way) is there a cheaper airlien to use to book the ticket and put me on UA, such as booking it via Singapore?
FTFY


45k AC
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: SrulyP on July 30, 2015, 10:58:29 AM
FTFY


45k AC

Thanks! and this is my cheapest option in terms of anything that AMEX MR will transfer too?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on July 30, 2015, 11:24:17 AM
Thanks! and this is my cheapest option in terms of anything that AMEX MR will transfer too?
Yes
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ADG on July 30, 2015, 11:53:50 AM
first time on ana and it wouldnt let me type in a airport code within the US . what am i doing wrong?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mgarfin on August 05, 2015, 11:24:25 AM
EWR-TYS  on UA RT
What is my best option/ point value ?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Cw3323 on August 14, 2015, 02:03:07 AM
Where could I find a chart of Europe award travel, like how much miles is needed and where MR points could be transferred instantly
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Yitz on August 20, 2015, 11:24:23 AM
I am trying to help a relative that is not feeling well. He owns 500k amex points and is trying to get back from TLV to NYC on Aug 27 or 28th one way for 4 people. Any advice would be appreciated
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on September 11, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
looking to go from TLV - PVG (shanghai) on sept 24th. Looking to book in J via UA flying on LH (connecting thru FRA). I know , I know - such a beautiful flight...

We got 1 of us on it (now I need to get on the flight!!) - the FRA - PVG leg has availability- but the TLV - FRA leg hasn't released another reward seat. On EF it says there are 6 seats available in J - which is more than half right? Anyone care to chime in on likely of releasing another award given there are so many available seats?

TIA!!
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: ranhan429 on September 12, 2015, 02:56:22 PM
ended up shelling out 67k LH miles + 320$ in YQ for just the TLV - PVG leg - and booking the return as a 1-way on UA. Not ideal - but I feel it was worth it for us to get the dates we wanted.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on September 29, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
ANA is showing SQ R - any chance this is bookable using *a miles?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5764/21800230056_a9c955812e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zdpSTs)
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: mmm740 on September 30, 2015, 12:30:42 AM
ANA is showing SQ R - any chance this is bookable using *a miles?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5764/21800230056_a9c955812e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zdpSTs)
Do you get an error when you click next?

I've seen them show J on the 300-ER and I get an error.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on November 10, 2015, 02:27:11 PM
Trying to book the following flights with star alliance miles. Basically 2 OWs. madrid-prague (via lisbon) and prg- tlv (via istanbul). Is there any star alliance program that allows me to book as one ticket? what is the optimal way of booking this.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: MosheD on November 10, 2015, 02:54:46 PM
Trying to book the following flights with star alliance miles. Basically 2 OWs. madrid-prague (via lisbon) and prg- tlv (via istanbul). Is there any star alliance program that allows me to book as one ticket? what is the optimal way of booking this.
If you are not stopping over, then this can for sure be done in UA and prob others
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on November 10, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
If you are not stopping over, then this can for sure be done in UA and prob others

The stops are not necessary at all.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: jas1285 on November 11, 2015, 12:54:33 PM
Trying to book LH F Class. Showing availability on United and ANA website but when I call Singapore to book they tell me they see it as wait listed. What's the deal?
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on November 11, 2015, 12:56:19 PM
Trying to book LH F Class. Showing availability on United and ANA website but when I call Singapore to book they tell me they see it as wait listed. What's the deal?

Do you see it on AC? UA can sometimes be Phantom availability.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on November 11, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
Trying to book LH F Class. Showing availability on United and ANA website but when I call Singapore to book they tell me they see it as wait listed. What's the deal?

HUCA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on November 11, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
Do you see it on AC? UA can sometimes be Phantom availability.

ANA is usually the most accurate.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: Marco Polo on November 11, 2015, 01:01:06 PM
Trying to book LH F Class. Showing availability on United and ANA website but when I call Singapore to book they tell me they see it as wait listed. What's the deal?
HUCA HUCA HUCA and don't give up. I had similar issue and got my flight after two days.
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: benjie1305 on November 11, 2015, 01:03:43 PM
ANA is usually the most accurate.

1) ANA
2) AC
3) UA

or

1) ANA & AC
2) UA
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on November 11, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
1) ANA
2) AC
3) UA


or

1) ANA & AC
2) UA

That one
Title: Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
Post by: D93 on November 11, 2015, 01:09:46 PM