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Title: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2013, 03:14:19 PM
Kosher food situation?

Top things to do/see?

TR's?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 18, 2013, 03:15:52 PM
DMZ zone is very cool. Are you staying overnight?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2013, 03:18:57 PM
Are you staying overnight?
Considering.  Would like to know what's there or if I should just connect without a stopover.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 18, 2013, 03:21:13 PM
Considering.  Would like to know what's there or if I should just connect without a stopover.
I would try to just make a long stopover. They have tour companies that can take you from the airport to the DMZ and right back to the airport. We did that and it was very cool with zero hassle.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2013, 03:23:20 PM
I would try to just make a long stopover. They have tour companies that can take you from the airport to the DMZ and right back to the airport. We did that and it was very cool with zero hassle.
What was so cool about it? How much time do you need? Nothing worth seeing in ICN itself?
Typically a category 4 Park Hyatt is enough to make me spend the night if there is kosher food around :D
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 18, 2013, 03:27:32 PM
http://jewishkorea.com/Kosher.html
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on January 18, 2013, 03:28:53 PM
What was so cool about it? How much time do you need? Nothing worth seeing in ICN itself?
Typically a category 4 Park Hyatt is enough to make me spend the night if there is kosher food around :D

I know a guy who lives here, he may have access to kosher food PM me for info.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 18, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
What was so cool about it? How much time do you need? Nothing worth seeing in ICN itself?
Typically a category 4 Park Hyatt is enough to make me spend the night if there is kosher food around :D
From my research, and I may be wrong Seoul isn't such a cool city, although for a night it could be worth it. The DMZ is cool because you get to see all these soldiers driving around in tanks securing this famous border. The history is kind of cool as well. We went to this empty train station which was just built in hope of reunification and it was interesting.

We also went to some Korean restaurant and go to watch all the locals eat their food on the floor with the shoes lined up neatly outside.

Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 18, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Nice Hyatt casino @ ICN airport
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 19, 2013, 11:45:06 AM
i too am considering ICN stop. i think im gonna give it 2 days
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 01:11:36 PM
i too am considering ICN stop. i think im gonna give it 2 days



  Can you share what your thinking of doing? From looking around it seems the only interesting thing to do is the DMZ tour.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 20, 2013, 01:28:07 PM


  Can you share what your thinking of doing? From looking around it seems the only interesting thing to do is the DMZ tour.
one day dmz and one day to see the city
http://wikitravel.org/en/Seoul
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on January 20, 2013, 05:58:34 PM
Everyone who has been there tells me its a waste of time. I would avoid if possible

I had a 6 hour stopover last time and we just walked around the airport. Great shopping and a decent F Lounge

Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 28, 2013, 06:01:42 PM
Anyone been for Shabbos?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: easy48 on May 26, 2013, 01:35:18 PM
I will be in S Korea for 12 hour stopover in November.  Are there must see sites that I can make it too?  How far is the iarport from the town?  Any advice?  Kosher?

Thanks
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 26, 2013, 02:10:12 PM
I will be in S Korea for 12 hour stopover in November.  Are there must see sites that I can make it too?  How far is the iarport from the town?  Any advice?  Kosher?

Thanks

airport is about an hour from the city. sometimes more
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: easy48 on May 26, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
Hour drive doesn't seem too bad. Where are some must see places? Any kosher restaurant?  Has anyone been there for jut 12 hours?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 26, 2013, 02:32:47 PM
Hour drive doesn't seem too bad. Where are some must see places? Any kosher restaurant?  Has anyone been there for jut 12 hours?
I was. Did a dmz tour.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 07, 2013, 07:58:57 PM
Any kosher restaurant?
The Rov can prepare a kosher meal, but restaurant would be an overstatement
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 31, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
How long is the DMZ trip from airport and back?

Anything else worth making a longer stop for?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 31, 2013, 01:53:20 PM
How long is the DMZ trip from airport and back?

Anything else worth making a longer stop for?
How much time do you have? IIRC our actual tour was around 6-7 hrs. It depends on which areas of the DMZ you see.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 31, 2013, 02:02:57 PM
How much time do you have? IIRC our actual tour was around 6-7 hrs. It depends on which areas of the DMZ you see.
Right now my SO is ~2 hours. Want to know if i should look into extending that so i can go out and see something. DMZ would be interesting to visit.
Do you recall how much the tour was pp?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 31, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
Right now my SO is ~2 hours. Want to know if i should look into extending that so i can go out and see something. DMZ would be interesting to visit.
Do you recall how much the tour was pp?
sorry I don't recall. Wasn't a fortune, I would guess under 200 for 2 ppl (could be off). What are your other options?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 31, 2013, 03:04:18 PM
sorry I don't recall. Wasn't a fortune, I would guess under 200 for 2 ppl (could be off). What are your other options?
Nothing as of now. If i take the two hour layover, i end up in CNX around 10 PM. Figure nothing would be happening when i arrive, so i should try and stay longer in ICN.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on October 31, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
Nothing as of now. If i take the two hour layover, i end up in CNX around 10 PM. Figure nothing would be happening when i arrive, so i should try and stay longer in ICN.
Gotcha. Let us know what happens.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Drago on September 18, 2014, 04:15:49 AM
So it seems like there's little reason to spend a few days here w/ kids?
It seems like they have some pretty national parks and beaches, but I'm not seeing anything earth-shattering, and I can't imagine the prices are as low as Bali or Thailand.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 01, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
Considering a full day stopover in ICN, arriving 5:40 AM and departing 7:15 PM. Anything that can I do in addition to the DMZ tour?
 

BTW, this thread has to be added to the destination master thread.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on November 02, 2014, 01:45:54 AM
Considering a full day stopover in ICN, arriving 5:40 AM and departing 7:15 PM. Anything that can I do in addition to the DMZ tour?
 

BTW, this thread has to be added to the destination master thread.

Did you check the times of the tours? The DMZ tour will eat up most of that time, then you have to add in travel to and from the airport, etc. Not much extra time to play with IMHO. If you do have extra time, I recall reading something about a tower observatory. I forgot the name but it was pretty high up in the traveladvisor activity list.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 02, 2014, 10:00:42 AM
Did you check the times of the tours? The DMZ tour will eat up most of that time, then you have to add in travel to and from the airport, etc. Not much extra time to play with IMHO. If you do have extra time, I recall reading something about a tower observatory. I forgot the name but it was pretty high up in the traveladvisor activity list.
how long from the airport to the DMZ zone?

Also, does anyone know which KSML KE serves ex-ICN?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 02, 2014, 10:03:19 AM
how long from the airport to the DMZ zone?

Also, does anyone know which KSML KE serves ex-ICN?
Hermolis
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 02, 2014, 10:04:14 AM
Hermolis
Thanks 👏
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 02, 2014, 12:03:25 PM
What you don't read DDMS TRs ;)
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 02, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
What you don't read DDMS TRs ;)
Hah.. You forgot my join date  :P

Honestly, I did go through that TR a few weeks ago when I started thinking about visiting ICN but I missed/forgot the meals part.

How do you rate KE F A380?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 02, 2014, 06:36:15 PM
Its very good, but its no CX/SQ.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 02, 2014, 08:23:50 PM
Its very good, but its no CX/SQ.
Just finished reading that TR. Awesome!

I seee you didn't do the DMZ zone, do you think its a waste of time? Should I rather go with CX (pending F availability....) and do HKG for the day?

As of now im bookedd on KE JFK-ICN-CNX and I have a full day stopover in ICN should I rather do JFK-HKG-CNX and do full day stopover in HKG?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: mochada on November 02, 2014, 09:13:08 PM
Just finished reading that TR. Awesome!

I seee you didn't do the DMZ zone, do you think its a waste of time? Should I rather go with CX (pending F availability....) and do HKG for the day?

As of now im bookedd on KE JFK-ICN-CNX and I have a full day stopover in ICN should I rather do JFK-HKG-CNX and do full day stopover in HKG?

Why not stay in HKG over night? Looking to get everything on the same ticket?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on November 02, 2014, 09:15:59 PM
Just finished reading that TR. Awesome!

I seee you didn't do the DMZ zone, do you think its a waste of time? Should I rather go with CX (pending F availability....) and do HKG for the day?

As of now im bookedd on KE JFK-ICN-CNX and I have a full day stopover in ICN should I rather do JFK-HKG-CNX and do full day stopover in HKG?
Better to do CX + HKG. If you're doing HKG just stay there for shabbos. One day is not enough time for HKG.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 02, 2014, 09:23:41 PM
Better to do CX + HKG. If you're doing HKG just stay there for shabbos. One day is not enough time for HKG.
Thx. don't wanna go off topic. lets continue in the next vacation - ideas thread.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on November 03, 2014, 01:55:18 AM
how long from the airport to the DMZ zone?

Also, does anyone know which KSML KE serves ex-ICN?

Not sure, maybe about an hour or so. You can't go up to the dmz by yourself though, you have to take a tour that leaves from Seoul city center.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 03, 2014, 09:39:11 AM
Thanks. Do you recall which tour you used?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on November 03, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
Thanks. Do you recall which tour you used?

Korridor. You can read my trip report on Korea, search for "ZCN's TR" in the trip reports section.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 03, 2014, 08:33:25 PM
Korridor. You can read my trip report on Korea, search for "ZCN's TR" in the trip reports section.

Don't see the TR in the master thread, add it there.
Title: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 14, 2015, 10:53:33 AM
I'm looking for award flights on J, or F to Israel for sukkos time, ( traveling with infant, so trying to avoid extra fees). I found a flight on ke, Jfk-icn-Tlv. Now I need some convincing from the DDF family, that I'm not crazy for traveling an extra 10 hours to fly f, and that it's worth it to do it for South Korea touring... ( when I've mentioned this idea to friends, and family they all think I'm nuts, but they don't play the mileage game. )
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on January 10, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
If my stopover is a day and a half and I want to see as much as possible, which is the better location to stay at? Hyatt in ICN or Hyatt in Seoul?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 12, 2016, 06:12:03 AM
Any pre-arrival visa requirements for S. Korea?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on February 11, 2016, 04:07:44 PM
I've seen on some websites that the minimum age to go on the DMZ tour is 11 and that nobody younger is allowed. Is that true?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: normaly on February 19, 2016, 02:07:56 AM
I did the dmz tour and don't remember any kids. But you should call them
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 19, 2016, 05:05:47 AM
I've seen on some websites that the minimum age to go on the DMZ tour is 11 and that nobody younger is allowed. Is that true?
Could be specific tours trying to limit the disturbance to other pax
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on February 19, 2016, 08:50:17 AM
Could be specific tours trying to limit the disturbance to other pax
Called the tour that I booked with and they said some of their tours allow kids under 11 and some don't. No idea what the reason is though.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 19, 2016, 09:15:57 AM
Would you rather be on a tour with kids or without?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on February 19, 2016, 09:21:39 AM
Would you rather be on a tour with kids or without?
I'm taking my kid so with.  :)
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on July 29, 2016, 01:02:35 PM
What's transportation like from ICN into Seoul? Better off taking a train or is it complicated?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on July 31, 2016, 10:13:35 AM
What's transportation like from ICN into Seoul? Better off taking a train or is it complicated?
I went with he train was pretty simple. There are information "English" desks all over the subways if you need.
Just make sure you exit on the right side as some of the stops have very large terminals and if you walk out the "wrong" door you might end up 3 blocks away from where you need.
When we went to shopping areas was suprised to find "information" staff walking around in all busy areas with large signs "we speak english".
Trip advisor Forum was very helpful as to which trains to take and where to get off. We had to catch a cab, so was even directed exactly where to get off and find closer direct cabs etc.
There are 2 trains from ICN. There is an express and local one.
Regarding the DMZ tour I would just stick with a JSA tour and skip the DMZ. you have to check the calendar as they only offer it a few times a week.
I believe some train stations in Seoul have luggage options as well.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on July 31, 2016, 07:07:35 PM
I went with he train was pretty simple. There are information "English" desks all over the subways if you need.
Just make sure you exit on the right side as some of the stops have very large terminals and if you walk out the "wrong" door you might end up 3 blocks away from where you need.
When we went to shopping areas was suprised to find "information" staff walking around in all busy areas with large signs "we speak english".
Trip advisor Forum was very helpful as to which trains to take and where to get off. We had to catch a cab, so was even directed exactly where to get off and find closer direct cabs etc.
There are 2 trains from ICN. There is an express and local one.
Regarding the DMZ tour I would just stick with a JSA tour and skip the DMZ. you have to check the calendar as they only offer it a few times a week.
I believe some train stations in Seoul have luggage options as well.
So only issue with the train is that I'm landing in ICN at 4am and looks like the first train from ICN into Seoul is at 5:20am, so I'll either have to bus it or cab. Which hotel did you stay at? Once you get into Seoul station, did you just cab it to your hotel?

I can't do the JSA tour because we're going with our 1 year old, and they don't allow kids, so I can only do DMZ. Figured I may as well even though I'll be missing the better part of the whole experience because who knows when I'll be back in Korea. Any other recommendations in terms of activities?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on July 31, 2016, 09:42:35 PM
i was only there for 1 day...
The DMZ tour is a bit boring but I guess you dont have much choice. I arrived very early as well however border control line was 1.5 hours long (depends if a Chinese flight arrives same time as you) by the time I got thru I had to rush and catch a train to get to the tour. The express was actually a 30 min wait so took the regular one. (you can purchase tickets at the automatic booth). I just did the JSA (was excellent) then on the way back the tour bus dropped us off by shopping. it is blocks and blocks packed with people and junk stores. After going thru that for a few hours a few blocks further after the junk shops you  can find some better stores such as nice clothing stores for the misses and kids at pretty affordable prices and good quality (you have to weed thru the junk). We then took a cab to the Hyatt Seoul and they printed us directions to the chabad guy/Rabbi. the directions where off by a few blocks as he moved and had a very very hard time finding it (we walked form the hotel (approx 10 min down hill) to his house where his wife prepared us a delicious meal, just let them know you are coming. They are extremely nice and accommodating (make sure to leave a nice tip). He also has a full stocked grocery in his house. We caught a direct bus back to ICN from the Hyatt (you can purchase tickets at the desk) for our early morning flight.
Are you flying Korean F? I was super impressed with them. The seats were not as comfortable as CX but the service was way better and wasn't sure why the CX rave on here compared to Korean.
 The Lounge didn't have much kosher but had some excellent Hagen Dazs, and we took  a few. (when the cleaning staff came by, she saw all the ice cream cups and she "said...Oh you forgot one favor you must try it")  (Not Cholov yisoroel....., but I guess we were hungry  :( The also have al the Israeli newspapers (I guess allot of Israelis).

.. If you are flying F make sure to go upstairs to business and at the back of the plane (don't get fooled by the self service mini bar they have downstairs with big bottles of blue label, etc)  the have a bar with couches (benches)where they will make you any drink cocktail you want (kosher?). They will have someone walk you and give some serious royal treatment  and they will "inform" the staff all along the way .....'they are first class" and practically fight who can take care of you.
First was actually almost full with the entire airplane "Jewish" and we actually enjoyed schmoozing with some of the "Businessmen" and they had got a kick of the fact that we where all Jewish....
in general i found the Koreans although a bit rigid and "in their own world" type of people, they are one of the nicest helpful and honest people I have ever met thru out my travels. Prices aren't cheap and you can't really bargain or haggle that much or at all in many stores you can leave a $100 bill on the floor and nobody would touch it.
How this helps....
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on July 31, 2016, 10:05:15 PM
Thanks for the whole rundown. Really appreciate it.

Good to know about customs (though I hope that doesn't happen to us after such a long flight). I guess I'll write down bus and train times and call an audible once I get there and see how long it takes me to get out of the airport. The tour is picking us up from our hotel (Grand Hyatt Seoul) at 7:50am so hopefully we make it in time.

I already emailed the Chabad Rabbi and he asked me for the date and time that I'd like to go for dinner. I thought that they had a restaurant though. It's at their house?

We are flying KE F, though on the 747 so I don't think there's a bar on that plane (but I could be wrong). That was all really helpful. Thanks!

Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on July 31, 2016, 10:14:08 PM
its at his house and I was a little uncomfortable bothering them , but they where so nice. He has a small shut and a mini grocery in his house and the eating area is setup to look like a restaurant type seating, but it is in his house and she basically cooks you dinner. The food was good  and plentiful and we chatted with his kids who are way advanced in learning then most kids their age. They don't charge anything but as mentioned make sure to leave a nice donation.
I believe the first class lounge offers free bus tickets (for F class) to Hyatt seoul for "showers etc" so find out about that.  I also believe there is a direct bus to the hyatt. My tour started else where so I had to take the train
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on July 31, 2016, 10:17:02 PM
its at his house and I was a little uncomfortable bothering them , but they where so nice. He has a small shut and a mini grocery in his house and the eating area is setup to look like a restaurant type seating, but it is in his house and she basically cooks you dinner. The food was good  and plentiful and we chatted with his kids who are way advanced in learning then most kids their age. They don't charge anything but as mentioned make sure to leave a nice donation.
Ah, good to know. Ya, that makes me a bit uncomfortable but I already emailed him so I guess I'll go. Any recommendation on donation amount? Good to know about the bus. I'll reach out to KE about that.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on July 31, 2016, 10:19:21 PM
Hard to tell...I left $100 per person (x2) but its really up to you.

BTW when I wrote Hyatt, I meant the Grand Hyatt Seoul.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on October 25, 2016, 01:58:21 AM
Anyone here been in Seoul for Shabbos?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 25, 2016, 02:33:21 PM
Anyone here been in Seoul for Shabbos?
I have, whatsapp

Grand Hyatt is walking to chabad
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on October 26, 2016, 10:31:43 AM
Any DMZ tours that dont make me book days in advance?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2016, 05:54:04 PM
Has anyone stayed in Seoul longer than 2 days? Is it a complete waste of time going Fri-Mon?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 10, 2016, 05:56:23 PM
Has anyone stayed in Seoul longer than 2 days? Is it a complete waste of time going Fri-Mon?
Yes to both. Don't do it
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2016, 05:57:13 PM
Yes to both. Don't do it
Ok, why not? Would Fri-Sun be better?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 10, 2016, 05:57:53 PM
Ok, why not? Would Fri-Sun be better?
There's nothing there
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 10, 2016, 05:59:57 PM
There's nothing there
It's the most convenient stop for shabbos on our way back from DPS-LAX. You'd still avoid it at the cost of spending time in DPS and extra ticket/mileage costs to spend shabbos in, say, HKG?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on November 11, 2016, 12:32:54 AM
It's the most convenient stop for shabbos on our way back from DPS-LAX. You'd still avoid it at the cost of spending time in DPS and extra ticket/mileage costs to spend shabbos in, say, HKG?
Tricky question... Nothing much to do there...very costly city.  Only 1 limited food option. (By Rabbi's house, although he is great guy, you are still "eating in his house")
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2016, 12:35:21 AM
Tricky question... Nothing much to do there...very costly city.  Only 1 limited food option. (By Rabbi's house, although he is great guy, you are still "eating in his house")
I'm sure they like guests, especially frum ones. If DMZ takes a full day and all I have is 2 half days besides that you really don't think there are worthwhile things to see and do?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on November 11, 2016, 01:49:54 AM


Has anyone stayed in Seoul longer than 2 days?

Yes.
I'm sure they like guests, especially frum ones. If DMZ takes a full day and all I have is 2 half days besides that you really don't think there are worthwhile things to see and do?
TR incoming this week.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2016, 08:58:29 AM

Yes.TR incoming this week.
Waiting patiently.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on November 12, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
I'm sure they like guests, especially frum ones. If DMZ takes a full day and all I have is 2 half days besides that you really don't think there are worthwhile things to see and do?
I agree with you on the guest part just not sure how comfortable you will be eating by someone for 2 days, but thats up to you. He will make you feel very comfortable so no worries.

My reccoemnedation is; don't do the DMZ just to the JSA its a half a day and we went shopping the other half which I actually enjoyed  ;D We also went up the tall tower which was nice and see all the 1,000's of padlock placed there by people. They also had a cute store in the tower that had postcards you can mail home to the kids...
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2016, 10:57:49 PM
I agree with you on the guest part just not sure how comfortable you will be eating by someone for 2 days, but thats up to you. He will make you feel very comfortable so no worries.

My reccoemnedation is; don't do the DMZ just to the JSA its a half a day and we went shopping the other half which I actually enjoyed  ;D We also went up the tall tower which was nice and see all the 1,000's of padlock placed there by people. They also had a cute store in the tower that had postcards you can mail home to the kids...
So are you recommending doing only a half-day Tour on Sunday and leaving Sunday night? As of now I plan on leaving Monday night, though that's easily changeable.

I don't think we'll be too uncomfortable eating by them for 2 days, but that's up to DW.

What type of shopping did you do? Are the prices cheaper than in the US or where the malls just nicer?

 Also how did you get around without Google Maps?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on November 13, 2016, 12:48:03 AM
So are you recommending doing only a half-day Tour on Sunday and leaving Sunday night? As of now I plan on leaving Monday night, though that's easily changeable.

I don't think we'll be too uncomfortable eating by them for 2 days, but that's up to DW.

What type of shopping did you do? Are the prices cheaper than in the US or where the malls just nicer?

 Also how did you get around without Google Maps?
I did one full day and I think it was more then enough.
Arrived at 5:30 waited thru customs 1.5 hours
Rushed on the train to the "closest" exit to the star too the JSA tour (Got help from TA) took a cab t the tour starting site. arrived at tour at 8:20,went to starbucks bought back coffee for myself, and bus driver (nice guy). Tour finished approx 1ish. Tour guide kept trying to sell us the DMZ tour after the JSA but was not interested. She dropped us off at a shopping area, which had approx 25 blocks of interesting junk shops in the middle of the street. Didn't purchase much but enjoyed walking thru them. 3:30 we walked past the shops a few blocks further we found some small shops along the streets  together with some expensive chains stores (Gucci etc) In the small store we found nice clothing for the kids and misses (u have to weed out the junk). then we walked to this kool elevator that takes you up to a tower which you can go to the top and have view of the whole Korea. Afterwards we took a taxi to the Grand Hyatt, went to Chabad for supper came back to hotel, and caught the bus to ICN at 5:00 am.  Nobody speaks english in Korea however there are "info desks" all over the place and they all speak english and very helpful.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on November 13, 2016, 12:48:34 AM
BTW if you go in the winter the Hyatt has and outdoor Ice skating rink
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on November 13, 2016, 01:52:38 AM
I did one full day and I think it was more then enough.
Arrived at 5:30 waited thru customs 1.5 hours
Rushed on the train to the "closest" exit to the star too the JSA tour (Got help from TA) took a cab t the tour starting site. arrived at tour at 8:20,went to starbucks bought back coffee for myself, and bus driver (nice guy). Tour finished approx 1ish. Tour guide kept trying to sell us the DMZ tour after the JSA but was not interested. She dropped us off at a shopping area, which had approx 25 blocks of interesting junk shops in the middle of the street. Didn't purchase much but enjoyed walking thru them. 3:30 we walked past the shops a few blocks further we found some small shops along the streets  together with some expensive chains stores (Gucci etc) In the small store we found nice clothing for the kids and misses (u have to weed out the junk). then we walked to this kool elevator that takes you up to a tower which you can go to the top and have view of the whole Korea. Afterwards we took a taxi to the Grand Hyatt, went to Chabad for supper came back to hotel, and caught the bus to ICN at 5:00 am.  Nobody speaks english in Korea however there are "info desks" all over the place and they all speak english and very helpful.
Did you not reserve the JSA tour in advance?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 13, 2016, 02:01:01 AM
I did one full day and I think it was more then enough.
Arrived at 5:30 waited thru customs 1.5 hours
Rushed on the train to the "closest" exit to the star too the JSA tour (Got help from TA) took a cab t the tour starting site. arrived at tour at 8:20,went to starbucks bought back coffee for myself, and bus driver (nice guy). Tour finished approx 1ish. Tour guide kept trying to sell us the DMZ tour after the JSA but was not interested. She dropped us off at a shopping area, which had approx 25 blocks of interesting junk shops in the middle of the street. Didn't purchase much but enjoyed walking thru them. 3:30 we walked past the shops a few blocks further we found some small shops along the streets  together with some expensive chains stores (Gucci etc) In the small store we found nice clothing for the kids and misses (u have to weed out the junk). then we walked to this kool elevator that takes you up to a tower which you can go to the top and have view of the whole Korea. Afterwards we took a taxi to the Grand Hyatt, went to Chabad for supper came back to hotel, and caught the bus to ICN at 5:00 am.  Nobody speaks english in Korea however there are "info desks" all over the place and they all speak english and very helpful.
Seems like the DMZ tours are more popular overall. Why did you choose the JMA tour instead? Just because it was shorter?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on November 13, 2016, 10:24:21 AM
Did you not reserve the JSA tour in advance?
I did. Officials they need your passport info for clearance
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on November 13, 2016, 10:25:18 AM
Seems like the DMZ tours are more popular overall. Why did you choose the JMA tour instead? Just because it was shorter?
1) allot of people don't know of that option of only the JSA
2) I read up on it and it is very boring. the JSA is the main hi light of the tour
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 13, 2016, 10:32:33 AM
1) allot of people don't know of that option of only the JSA
2) I read up on it and it is very boring. the JSA is the main hi light of the tour
Oh, so if you do a DMZ tour it INCLUDES the JMA? Didn't realize. What about it did you find boring? I'm only asking for clarification because often times I have different definitions of "boring" compared to others here.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: yitzyul on November 13, 2016, 10:38:00 AM
Most DMZ tours include the JSA, if not make sure yours does.
From what I heard , its very long and drawn out, they take you to different places to see the fence (you see that when your driving anyway) to some old tunnels that take hours talking etc.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 08, 2017, 12:59:24 PM
Apparently the chabad has a restaurant open from 10am to 10pm.
anyone been there?

We are planning on taking a tour during a long layover (DMZ is closed that day unfortunately) and the places we are going is nowhere near the chabad. they said they can put food in a taxi and have it delivered somewhere, but have no idea where to have it delivered.
Tour guide picks us up at 10am (arrive 930am) and drops us back at ICN at 230pm (4pm flight)
Anyone have any ideas on where chabad can have a taxi deliver us food? We are stopping at multiple locations in the Incheon area and wont be anywhere for a long period of time.

ETA: i think ill have them deliver to the Hyatt at ICN. They offer a shower service for Korean air first class pax and we can kill 2 birds with one stone.

With that said, if i have a 4pm flight KE F, what time should we be back at ICN? Wont have any bags to check. just need to clear security and dont plan to visit any lounge.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 08, 2017, 01:41:02 PM


Apparently the chabad has a restaurant open from 10am to 10pm.
anyone been there?

Yes. It's in the Chabad house dining room. Set up like a restaurant and like all chabad houses the hosts are extremely warm and sweet. Can get awkward for some if eating in. They don't get very many visitors.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 08, 2017, 01:42:10 PM
Yes. It's in the Chabad house dining room. Set up like a restaurant and like all chabad houses the hosts are extremely warm and sweet. Can get awkward for some if eating in. They don't get very many visitors.

Thanks. I think we will order food from them and have it delivered.
Any suggestions on what time to arrive back at ICN for a 4pm KE F flight without luggage?
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 08, 2017, 01:46:50 PM
Thanks. I think we will order food from them and have it delivered.
Any suggestions on what time to arrive back at ICN for a 4pm KE F flight without luggage?
I don't remember how the check-in experience was but I usually arrive 1 1/2 before with luggage and a child and don't recall being rushed.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on March 08, 2017, 01:49:16 PM
I don't remember how the check-in experience was but I usually arrive 1 1/2 before with luggage and a child and don't recall being rushed.
thanks
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on March 08, 2017, 02:14:34 PM
I don't remember how the check-in experience was but I usually arrive 1 1/2 before with luggage and a child and don't recall being rushed.
Sounds about right. ICN is an efficient airport.
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on August 24, 2018, 07:23:45 AM
South Korea to shut down Incheon Airport high-speed rail - https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/South-Korea-to-shut-down-Incheon-Airport-high-speed-rail
Title: Re: South Korea Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on August 24, 2018, 09:06:11 AM
South Korea to shut down Incheon Airport high-speed rail - https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/South-Korea-to-shut-down-Incheon-Airport-high-speed-rail

Classic example of a country building useless things only for the Olympics.