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Title: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dirah on January 20, 2013, 11:48:51 PM
It would be great to have a complete lest of KSML by airlines, with info such as Hechsher, company, Mezonos/Hamotzi, CY and CS.
I started with the little that I know, posted in the Wiki.
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 20, 2013, 11:53:23 PM
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/religious-travelers/1083255-master-thread-kosher-meals-27.html

I never understood the point. You have to bring your own food anyways because theres never a 100% guarantee the meal will come. If it does come, it will say the hechsher and other info.
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: dirah on January 20, 2013, 11:58:17 PM
I never understood the point. You have to bring your own food anyways because theres never a 100% guarantee the meal will come. If it does come, it will say the hechsher and other info.
Some people do like to know these things...
"Never a 100% guarantee" ≠ "100% guaranteed not good".
You would plan differently for the two scenarios.
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 20, 2013, 11:58:25 PM
I am curious to know about SQ's meals, out of JFK, FRA and SIN.

Noting special out of JFK. I was in suites and had a borenstein big tray, no real dishes, very little food, labeled BUS class chicken meal
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on January 21, 2013, 12:36:10 AM
Anyone know what QF serves to Australia?
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 21, 2013, 12:55:22 AM
Anyone know what QF serves to Australia?
It would depend on departure city.
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on January 21, 2013, 01:32:07 AM
It would depend on departure city.
LAX
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 21, 2013, 12:54:45 PM
Reposting all my posts from FT...

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LH Y out if EWR sevres Regels (chicken) for dinner and a breakfast (not a hot one) before landing.
LH Y FRA to EWR had a meal from Shofar (Frankfurt local).
CO 84 Y had Regels (beef) for dinner, and a hot breakfast before landing, returning had from Hamasbia.

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Heard that B6 has Kosher lunch boxes for sale on the NY-FL routes.
http://www.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/snacks-and-drinks/?intcmp=hd_fojb_snacksdrinks

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From my family's travel,
SAA Y-class JNB-CPT-JNB (yes, a 2hr flight) & on BA (Comair) Y-class JNB-VFA-JNB got a hot KSML out of Jo'burg (South Africa only has one Hechser)

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I was in FRA this week, the Shul is in the main hall, opposite from the entry to the B Concourse, there are steps leading up a floor with a sign "Jewish Prayer Room". (PS it fits in no more then just a Minyan...)

Today in the morning I was flying out without KSML, so I went to look for the vending machine to something to eat, the vending machine is right in the beginning in C Concourse, it's there, but it was empty and not working......

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In JFK Virgin Clubhouse, was offered (not ordered) a Frozen KSML (they heated it up) from Fresko (Star-K).
SQ Suites JFK-FRA very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
LH FRA-VIE a cold meal from Sohar, very good, real dishes etc (a salmon dish).
OS VIE-TLV hot meal from local prov, real dishes, very good.
US TLV-PHL (not ordered KSML due to booking 4 hours to flight), asked by FA when taking meal orders for my choice, asked if they had a KSML, she said they maybe had a Veg KSML on board extra.
When meal came, got a full J class KSML meal, real dishes, food not bad, from Masbia. Milk got a closed bottle of Kosher milk. Got a wraped plate of hot nuts.
Title: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:12:34 PM
Airline: CO
Class: BF
Route: EWR-TLV
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: R' Volover.  Mezonos+Cholov Yisroel.
Flight date: 08/24/09.
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:14:35 PM
Airline: CO
Class: BF
Route: EWR-TLV
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: R' Volover. Mezonos+Cholov Yisroel.
Flight date: 08/24/09.
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:14:49 PM
Airline: CO
Class: BF
Route: EWR-TLV
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: R' Volover. Mezonos+Cholov Yisroel.
Flight date: 08/24/09.
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:27:13 PM
Airline: CO
Class: BF
Route: IAH-HNL
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: R' Volover. Mezonos.
Flight date: 12/11/09.
Meal in pics: Lunch
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:27:33 PM
Airline: CO
Class: BF
Route: IAH-HNL
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: R' Volover. Mezonos.
Flight date: 12/11/09.
Meal in pics: Snack
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 25, 2013, 02:27:47 PM
Really going back in the hard drive aren't you?
How many total will you have? 50+?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:31:42 PM
Airline: CO
Class: BF
Route: HNL-EWR
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: R' Volover. Mezonos.
Flight date: 12/24/09.
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:32:27 PM
Airline: CO
Class: BF
Route: HNL-EWR
Caterer: Regal
Hechsher: R' Volover. Mezonos.
Flight date: 12/24/09.
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
Airline: LX
Class: F
Route: ORD-ZRH
Caterer: Weiss
Flight date: 05/11/10.
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:39:11 PM
MUC F Lounge stock KSML.
Caterer: Stogel. AKA, the stuff you wouldn't feed your dog.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:39:29 PM
MUC F Lounge stock KSML:
Caterer: Stogel. AKA, the stuff you wouldn't feed your dog.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:44:17 PM
Airline: LH
Class: J
Route: FRA-VCE
Caterer: Sohar?
Flight date: 05/17/10.
Meal in pics: Snack
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:45:59 PM
Airline: LX
Class: Y
Route: ZRH-TLV
Caterer: Schalom
Flight date: 05/17/10.
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:49:49 PM
Airline: SN
Class: J
Route: TLV-BRU
Caterer: Hamasbia
Hechsher: Badatz Eida Chareidis
Flight date: 05/20/10.
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 25, 2013, 02:50:56 PM
Airline: SN
Class: J
Route: TLV-BRU
Caterer: Hamasbia
Hechsher: Badatz Jlem
Flight date: 05/20/10.
Meal in pics: Dinner

badatz Jlem and Eida Charedis are very different
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:52:19 PM
Airline: SN
Class: J
Route: TLV-BRU
Caterer: Hamasbia
Hechsher: Badatz Eida Chareidis
Flight date: 05/20/10.
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:52:40 PM
badatz Jlem and Eida Charedis are very different
Better?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 02:54:45 PM
Airline: SN
Class: J
Route: BRU-VCE
Caterer: Hermolis
Hechsher: KLBD
Flight date: 05/21/10.
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 25, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
Better?
Eida Chardies is considered the best hechsher in Israel
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
Eida Chardies is considered the best hechsher in Israel
Hopefully they won't sue for defamation.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 25, 2013, 04:08:31 PM
Airline: SN
Class: J
Route: BRU-VCE
Caterer: Hermolis
Hechsher: KLBD
Flight date: 05/21/10.
Meal in pics: Breakfast
hermolis is actually Kedasiah, the best hashgacha in england
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: sawlw on February 25, 2013, 05:27:46 PM
hermolis is actually Kedasiah, the best hashgacha in england
And from what I hear probably from the best ksml too
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 25, 2013, 05:35:55 PM
And from what I hear probably from the best ksml too
hit or miss...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 25, 2013, 05:40:28 PM
And from what I hear probably from the best ksml too
Schalom can be better.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2013, 05:56:19 PM
Best is Louis from SYD.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 25, 2013, 06:17:08 PM
Airline: BA
Class: J
Route: LHR-JFK
Caterer: Hermolis
Hechsher: Kedassia
Flight date: 09/04/12
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 25, 2013, 06:18:43 PM
i actually enjoyed the turkish catering tlv-ist (under ok supervision). i flew on 1/26 and meal said it was made 1/25 and to be used within 2 days. very fresh piece of salmon.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Menucha on February 25, 2013, 06:28:46 PM
BA looks best!

Others make me realize home made is still better than Business class..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 25, 2013, 08:09:06 PM
Others make me realize home made is still better than Business class..
i dont think anyone would suggest any KSML, business or not, is better than a home cooked meal...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Yeki89 on February 25, 2013, 08:33:41 PM
True a a hermoilis meal is really good. I flew BA Biz LHR-JFK back in 08, and I still remember, it was good.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: ShmuliT on February 25, 2013, 09:08:29 PM
Best is Louis from SYD.
Really???
Haven't had one of there meals in a while, but the joke in syd is that airline passengers get the so so food from Lewis and the prisoners get awesome food from Katzys.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: lybbtthl on February 25, 2013, 09:26:21 PM
Best is Louis from SYD.
I can't believe you said that! I've had their meals so many times and I've never been impressed, I mean, I've had worse, but they're far from good!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: lybbtthl on February 25, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
I can't believe you said that! I've had their meals so many times and I've never been impressed, I mean, I've had worse, but they're far from good!
on the other hand, they used to put in a card about the 10 mivtzoim!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Centurion on February 25, 2013, 11:11:26 PM
Eida Chardies is considered the best hechsher in Israel
WORLD
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 26, 2013, 03:37:01 AM
i dont think anyone would suggest any KSML, business or not, is better than a home cooked meal...
But when you include not having to wash dishes, it can be close...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 26, 2013, 03:50:33 AM
But when you include not having to wash dishes, it can be close...
have your wife check this out. jcichef.com  ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 26, 2013, 04:03:25 AM
have your wife check this out. jcichef.com  ;)
:)
The truth is that she used to sell Shabbos food our of her house when she was younger, so I'm blessed with the quality and healthiness of the ochel.
But dishes don't wash themselves...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on February 26, 2013, 04:26:52 AM
Wikified
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on February 26, 2013, 05:45:53 AM
Before this goes on, it belongs in this thread:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16659.0

I love how you completely ignored the last 10 OT comments (including 2 of your own). I guess something about my posts must really get you going...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 26, 2013, 06:26:19 AM
I love how you completely ignored the last 10 OT comments (including 2 of your own). I guess something about my posts must really get you going...
You're right, I also went OT and I hereby do apologize for that. But kashrus discussions always escalate, and wife's cooking discussions don't.

And I enjoy your posts, so keep them coming.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on February 26, 2013, 06:33:21 AM
You're right, I also went OT and I hereby do apologize for that. But kashrus discussions always escalate, and wife's cooking discussions don't.

And I enjoy your posts, so keep them coming.

Thanks for being more civil than I am.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: MisterHock on February 26, 2013, 07:14:38 AM
For the Yiddish speakers out there...

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2013, 05:27:00 PM
Should I keep posting these?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: yuneeq on March 22, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
Should I keep posting these?

Of course!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: SGF on March 22, 2013, 07:07:06 PM
Of course!
+100 keep it up.

It'll obviously take a while if ever to fill up with all airlines and routes, but we already have many of the basic routes and its a good beginning, if only everyone will chime in. Maybe a post on DD will get more people to help out.
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on April 04, 2013, 07:55:51 AM
Was just served a Hamasbia dinner and breakfast on UA TLV-EWR.
That was probably one of the worst airline KSML I've ever had.  The main dish in both, were horrendously inedible.  And talk about those eggs, ughh!  Gross.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 04, 2013, 11:58:42 AM
Anyone have any experience with what emirates serves?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 04, 2013, 12:02:29 PM
Anyone have any experience with what emirates serves?
As of a few years ago they served from Thailand.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 04, 2013, 12:08:59 PM
As of a few years ago they served from Thailand.

Not cool!! Hated their meals... That means they take kosher meals from Bangkok to Dubai to ny to serve??
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on April 04, 2013, 12:25:04 PM
Not cool!! Hated their meals... That means they take kosher meals from Bangkok to Dubai to ny to serve??
Dunno, I only flew once, could be they had some extra?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mickeyg on April 04, 2013, 01:13:37 PM
Was just served a Hamasbia dinner and breakfast on UA TLV-EWR.
That was probably one of the worst airline KSML I've ever had.  The main dish in both, were horrendously inedible.  And talk about those eggs, ughh!  Gross.
I know what you mean....I took that flight yesterday.....the dinner was still kosher for pesach (awful meatballs) and the breakfast was absolutely horrendous!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 04, 2013, 01:17:27 PM
Yup, clearing out the Pesach stock :P
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mickeyg on April 04, 2013, 01:35:05 PM
Yup, clearing out the Pesach stock :P
Lucky me.....:-(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 04, 2013, 02:26:07 PM
Not cool!! Hated their meals... That means they take kosher meals from Bangkok to Dubai to ny to serve??
The Bangkok caterer has been really improving.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 04, 2013, 05:31:59 PM
had it last year on Air China F and was very very disappointing... to the point that my colleague wanted to call Chabad to complain that it's a chutzpah they're serving such meals... perhaps we got bad stock, but was just bad...
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: moko on April 04, 2013, 09:21:48 PM
Was just served a Hamasbia dinner and breakfast on UA TLV-EWR.
That was probably one of the worst airline KSML I've ever had.  The main dish in both, were horrendously inedible.  And talk about those eggs, ughh!  Gross.
sounds you never had stogel
if their meals looked even a 1/4 as good as they look picture (http://www.stogel-catering.be/productrange.html)
Title: Re: KSML Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on April 07, 2013, 01:22:16 AM
sounds you never had stogel
if their meals looked even a 1/4 as good as they look picture (http://www.stogel-catering.be/productrange.html)
Sorry moko, I actually did have Stogel, and their food was not only edible, but pretty good IMHO (for an airline meal that is).  Excuse my unconventional opinion here on DDF, but I wasn't so crazy over the Hermolis meals that I got in business class.  In fact I enjoyed the Zohar I got in business more than the Hermolis.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 07, 2013, 05:24:52 AM
had it last year on Air China F and was very very disappointing... to the point that my colleague wanted to call Chabad to complain that it's a chutzpah they're serving such meals... perhaps we got bad stock, but was just bad...
Yes, it has improved since. It was really bad then.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 07, 2013, 07:01:31 AM
did anyone else notice a steep decline in the quality and taste of hermolis meals? just got served a bunch and it was pretty bad...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 07, 2013, 07:30:19 AM
I got a few meals in the past few weeks, really liked the lox covered mountain.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 07, 2013, 07:32:33 AM
I got a few meals in the past few weeks, really liked the lox covered mountain.
tuna fish mountain?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 07, 2013, 07:35:39 AM
I wasn't sure if it was tuna or salmon or something :).

I ask them to triple wrap & warm the bread, and it makes a pretty good meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 07, 2013, 08:57:20 AM
Yes, it has improved since. It was really bad then.

Happy to hear... Funny all the trouble they would go through taking meals from bkk to be served from JFK-dbx
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 07, 2013, 10:43:19 AM
did anyone else notice a steep decline in the quality and taste of hermolis meals? just got served a bunch and it was pretty bad...
I had a few from CDG to JFK and they were mediocre at best.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 07, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
I had a few from CDG to JFK and they were mediocre at best.
how the mighty have fallen...
Title: Kosher Meals -- Turkish Airlines YYZ-IST-TLV
Post by: bb_sam on April 07, 2013, 02:48:43 PM
Just came back from a pesach trip from Toronto - Istanbul - Tel Aviv (and return). I was originally booked in Comfort Class but later upgraded to Business.  TK is an amazing airline -- the plane from Toronto is great -- it has Wifi on it too.  Their Business Class Kosher Meal appears to be the same as Coach and Comfort Class.  In Business they actually have a chef onboard making food -- which made me a bit jealous as I ate my boxed meals.

The kosher caterer in Turkey is actually REALLY good.  I was impressed with the food -- even though it was all melchig, I still liked the quality and taste of it all.  I took some pics but was using my iPad so my apologies for the bad quality/close up shots.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 07, 2013, 03:29:10 PM
Welcome to DDF and thanks!
Do you know the brand and hechsher by any chance?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 07, 2013, 04:29:16 PM
i posted some time ago about tk. if its the turkish caterer, its under the OK, and its extremely fresh. my piece of salmon that i got on sat nite, was made on friday with a sunday expiration
it seems that they dont believe in deep freezing for months
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Galitzyaner on April 07, 2013, 04:40:03 PM
Welcome to DDF and thanks!
Do you know the brand and hechsher by any chance?
OK (under the direct supervision of R' Menachem Mendel Chitrik), + the chief Rabbinate of Turkey (FWIW).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bb_sam on April 07, 2013, 06:52:50 PM
OK (under the direct supervision of R' Menachem Mendel Chitrik), + the chief Rabbinate of Turkey (FWIW).

+1 OK certification and it also has "TK" (Turkey Kosher) hashgacha -- presumably the OK is more recognizable.  ;D

One more point that I should note -- I flew the day after Pesach and the TK kosher meal was a chametz meal -- meaning they didn't try to give us the leftover pesach meals.  The label on all the meals were dated April 3rd (the day I was flying) and said that they needed to be used within 3 days of the date.  It's too bad that TK doesn't have an 'upgraded' meal for business class -- but, for what it's worth, they do have fresh cut fruit (for those that will eat it) and they give you an individually wrapped Godiva chocolate before take off. 

 

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on April 07, 2013, 07:41:12 PM
BA f lhr jfk
Hermolis
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on April 07, 2013, 09:07:35 PM
NRT-HKG NH911 Business
and the same meal on
HKG-BKK TG639 Business
except instead of fish a meat dish with an inch of fat floating on it. completely inedible.

hermolis - chabad of hong kong hechsher. glatt kosher - main food not very good, but a lot of food.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on April 07, 2013, 09:10:31 PM
The Desert was pretty good, the cake had passionfruit syrup stuff wich was pretty good..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on April 07, 2013, 09:37:55 PM
hermolis - chabad of hong kong hechsher . glatt kosher - main food not very good, but a lot of food.

??
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on April 07, 2013, 10:17:25 PM
??
Was about to ask the same thing
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 16, 2013, 02:51:59 PM
i just flew UA ewr-tlv and was served kosher hot nuts, but was not double wrapped and plastic had hole. i cant imagine you would be allowed to eat that, right? i guess beware
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sawlw on April 16, 2013, 04:52:21 PM
i just flew UA ewr-tlv and was served kosher hot nuts, but was not double wrapped and plastic had hole. i cant imagine you would be allowed to eat that, right? i guess beware
Had the same , didn't even think of checking for double wrap, ouch :-[
Mind you , that and the brownie were basically the only half edible things served
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on April 16, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
Had on US the regular, asked for kosher, got one in silver paper but without any markings
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 16, 2013, 11:26:55 PM
On flight from TLV to EWR b/f Pesach, the porcelain of my warm nuts cracked in half, and I decided it wasn't worth potentially killing myself.
And dinner (chose the salmon) was very dry, and had a date of 2 weeks prior.
Breakfast was good though.
Hopefully my flight tomorrow will be better.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SGF on April 17, 2013, 01:38:20 AM
On flight from TLV to EWR b/f Pesach, the porcelain of my warm nuts cracked in half, and I decided it wasn't worth potentially killing myself.
And dinner (chose the salmon) was very dry, and had a date of 2 weeks prior.
Breakfast was good though.
Hopefully my flight tomorrow will be better.
We are expecting a post  here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13574.0)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Fish Tank on June 25, 2013, 01:57:27 AM
Does it make sense that a US Airways flight from Philly to LAX doesn't offer an option for kosher meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Platinum on June 25, 2013, 03:22:45 AM
Does it make sense that a US Airways flight from Philly to LAX doesn't offer an option for kosher meals?
Yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: TDweck on July 31, 2013, 10:41:07 AM
Sorry if this is written elsewhere...how is the Kosher on Cathay first?  I am going to take the jfk-vancouver flight to get some international first class without having to go far.

Has anyone taken this flight?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 31, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Sorry if this is written elsewhere...how is the Kosher on Cathay first?  I am going to take the jfk-vancouver flight to get some international first class without having to go far.

Has anyone taken this flight?
it's ok at best. But the Johnnie walker blue is good
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Lazer on July 31, 2013, 11:31:33 AM
Do You have to ask for kosher food and if yes when do you ask and the same question in the first class lounge when do you have to ask before or when you are there already?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 31, 2013, 02:49:43 PM
Do You have to ask for kosher food and if yes when do you ask and the same question in the first class lounge when do you have to ask before or when you are there already?
have to call in advance. in the lounge I did not get any kosher food. Said only for ba pax
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 31, 2013, 02:51:02 PM
have to call in advance. in the lounge I did not get any kosher food. Said only for ba pax
I think AJK got them to give him food in his famous Mehalech, maybe its a YMMV
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 31, 2013, 02:54:36 PM
Only works if you're copying my mehalech totally :-)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2013, 05:52:46 PM
it's ok at best. But the Johnnie walker blue is good

When flying to HKG on CX (or any airline for that matter) is there a big difference between departing from NYC, LAX or SFO in regards to where they get their Kosher meals? 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Lazer on July 31, 2013, 06:29:02 PM
I think AJK got them to give him food in his famous Mehalech, maybe its a YMMV
sorry but what does YMMV mean
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Lazer on July 31, 2013, 06:30:05 PM
have to call in advance. in the lounge I did not get any kosher food. Said only for ba pax
also what does ba pax mean?
and what is AJK mehalech?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 31, 2013, 06:50:14 PM
sorry but what does YMMV mean

http://bit.ly/sZzAm3

also what does ba pax mean?
and what is AJK mehalech?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13317.0

and

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=25470.0
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Lazer on July 31, 2013, 07:22:44 PM
BUT I STILL DONT KNOW HOW AJK'S MEHALECH GETS ME KOSHER FOOD IN THE FIRST CLASS LOUNGE?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Lazer on July 31, 2013, 07:24:19 PM
THANK YOU AJK BUT STILL WANT TGO KNOW HOW TO GET KOSHER MEAL IN THE LOUNGE THANKS AGAIN
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on July 31, 2013, 07:34:09 PM
Vy the caps?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: A European on October 18, 2013, 04:23:39 AM
China Eastern airline

My brothers Kosher *meals" from Shanghai to Melbourne!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: how on October 18, 2013, 04:33:08 AM
China Eastern airline

My brothers Kosher *meals" from Shanghai to Melbourne!
LOL Its good they double wrapped it...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on October 18, 2013, 07:24:22 AM

China Eastern airline

My brothers Kosher *meals" from Shanghai to Melbourne!

Did it taste like airline food? Or better?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 19, 2013, 07:46:06 PM
i got an apple for my ksml tlv-lca with no certification
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on October 19, 2013, 08:23:50 PM
i got an apple for my ksml tlv-lca with no certification

Next time ask if they have a Samsung  ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on October 19, 2013, 11:19:23 PM
i got an apple for my ksml tlv-lca with no certification
That could be a problem ex-tlv...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 20, 2013, 02:48:54 AM
That could be a problem ex-tlv...
precisely why i didnt eat it...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 20, 2013, 02:50:42 AM
Next time ask if they have a Samsung  ;)
???
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on October 20, 2013, 03:00:31 AM
have to call in advance. in the lounge I did not get any kosher food. Said only for ba pax
Officially its only for BA pax.

I asked, and originally they said no as there were only 2 meals reserved for 2 BA pax.

Around a half hour before our flight, they told us since the BA pax didn't show up, we can have their meals.

We only got through the first course as we needed to start boarding.
Title: Kosher meal on Turkish from JFK in C class
Post by: gold on October 25, 2013, 04:34:55 AM
What Kosher meal do you get on Turkish from JFK in C class? (Hechsher)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on October 27, 2013, 01:23:52 AM
Can someone help? Someones done this route!
What KSML (hechsher) doe s one get out of JFK on Turkish in C Class?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 27, 2013, 10:44:47 PM
Can't tell u about the meal but they has an excellent fruit platter.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Drago on December 14, 2013, 10:19:33 AM
OT, but does anyone know if the Godiva chocolate served on TK IST-BKK is kosher? It was made in Belgium.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jen on December 14, 2013, 07:31:57 PM
just flew LX biz MIA TLV and the MIA based food was a poor excuse for any class of kosher meal. THE Swiss based meal was quite fresh, tasty and presented nicely. why arent we holding kosher vendors accountable for the horrible product they are providing, when it is so simple to provide tasty fresh meals on visably appealing dishes. >??
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: harry on January 07, 2014, 07:03:38 AM
ANA from NRT-JFK

SQ from FRA-SIN

business class

Hermolis dinner and breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: harry on January 07, 2014, 07:15:40 AM
breakfast business class hermolis meal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: WhyAich on January 07, 2014, 10:45:16 AM
does DL JFK-LAX in Biz offer kosher meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on January 07, 2014, 10:46:15 AM
does DL JFK-LAX in Biz offer kosher meals?
got the deal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sruly on January 07, 2014, 10:46:25 AM
does DL JFK-LAX in Biz offer kosher meals?
yes
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 15, 2014, 05:00:08 PM
Will United heat up a pomegranate meal for me if I'm flying coach?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on January 15, 2014, 05:47:48 PM
Will United heat up a pomegranate meal for me if I'm flying coach?

Highly doubt it
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2014, 12:02:55 AM
does DL JFK-LAX in Biz offer kosher meals?
Of course.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2014, 12:03:06 AM
Will United heat up a pomegranate meal for me if I'm flying coach?
YMMV
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on January 16, 2014, 01:33:36 AM
Can anyone report on KSML on EK F Suites SIN-DXB-JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 16, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
does DL JFK-LAX in Biz offer kosher meals?

The meal was served to us frozen solid.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2014, 11:41:46 AM
The meal was served to us frozen solid.
Why did you open it frozen?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: donedeal12 on January 16, 2014, 04:24:49 PM
Lax-jfk biz.   The first course was served frozen. (Challah roll Turkish salad matbucha)
2nd course heated
Nasty meal(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/17/a6u8eveb.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/17/nerareta.jpg)


Return
Jfk-lax biz

Great meal
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/17/ty4a9ujy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/17/asubymy3.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/17/y3ydydeg.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2014, 04:30:21 PM
You NYC folk are funny.  Bring a double sealed meal from any of the plethora of places for $20 and eat like a real mentch onboard.
Esp in business where an FA should heat it up without making a fuss.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: joeberg on January 16, 2014, 06:51:22 PM
Does anyone know which caterer US uses on PHL-TLV?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on January 17, 2014, 02:11:37 PM
Why did you open it frozen?

I mean the whole tray, bagel, fruit, cheese etc. I sent the meal portion back to heat up.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2014, 02:12:56 PM
I mean the whole tray, bagel, fruit, cheese etc. I sent the meal portion back to heat up.
Ye, that happens a lot.
BYOF.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Chief Rabbi of New York on January 17, 2014, 02:16:47 PM
Ye, that happens a lot.
BYOF.

can we byob instead  :P
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Toasted on January 18, 2014, 10:59:39 PM
The meal was served to us frozen solid.

Well DL served my biz meals PHX-ATL-JFK frozen too. I called to complain and they sent me 2 $50 GC to a host of choices. The tickets didn't cost much more than that ;).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Side incomer on January 19, 2014, 10:54:15 AM
You NYC folk are funny.  Bring a double sealed meal from any of the plethora of places for $20 and eat like a real mentch onboard.
Esp in business where an FA should heat it up without making a fuss.
+1000
The prepacked Shnitzel is usually way better than any of those crap meals.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: joeberg on January 19, 2014, 09:29:20 PM
Does anyone know which caterer US uses on PHL-TLV?
bump
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on January 19, 2014, 09:53:43 PM
Does delta offer kosher meal JFK to tlv in coach ? If yes y can't I find the option on my flight details on flying blues site ?
Thanx
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: smart brit on January 20, 2014, 01:27:54 AM
Does delta offer kosher meal JFK to tlv in coach ? If yes y can't I find the option on my flight details on flying blues site ?
Thanx
because you will need to order it on delta. Com
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on January 24, 2014, 04:16:17 PM
AA flagship lounge in Miami any kosher food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 06, 2014, 06:03:50 PM
So I am flying AA F JFK-LAX what kosher food can I expect on board? They will be serving breakfast.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on February 07, 2014, 11:06:56 AM
Just flew back from HNL to EWR on United First Class.  Was served cold shnitzel for dinner with some vegetables - was absolutely disgusting.  For breakfast we got some sort of pasta with cheese inside.  That was heated up and was a bit more palatable.  In short, food was terribly disappointing.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on February 13, 2014, 11:55:47 AM
So I am flying AA F JFK-LAX what kosher food can I expect on board? They will be serving breakfast.

If you're in F try to BYOF, why not order the Pomegranate meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on February 13, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
If you're in F try to BYOF, why not order the Pomegranate meals?

Is there a problem bringing Pomegranate meals on the airplane through security?  We were thinking of buying some but Mrs. PBaruch was concerned that we would not be allowed to bring them through security and would have to throw them out. 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on February 13, 2014, 11:58:13 AM
Is there a problem bringing Pomegranate meals on the airplane through security?  We were thinking of buying some but Mrs. PBaruch was concerned that we would not be allowed to bring them through security and would have to throw them out.

Dan does it all the time, I personally haven't done Pomegranate, but we always bring food with us. If you order for the plane they aren't going to send soup. You should be fine.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on February 13, 2014, 12:00:05 PM
Dan does it all the time, I personally haven't done Pomegranate, but we always bring food with us. If you order for the plane they aren't going to send soup. You should be fine.

Thanks.  Its good to know.  We'll definitely try that next time. 

What if you don't happen to be flying in F.  Will they still warm up the meals for you?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on February 13, 2014, 12:03:21 PM
Thanks.  Its good to know.  We'll definitely try that next time. 

What if you don't happen to be flying in F.  Will they still warm up the meals for you?

Seems like a YMMV but don't count on it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 13, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
Why would there be a security issue with food???????
And most FAs will heat it up for you, esp if they see how bad/frozen the KSML is or if there is no KSML.

CX is the strictest but if you ask them to try eating a frozen KSML even they may relent.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on February 13, 2014, 03:43:13 PM
Why would there be a security issue with food???????
And most FAs will heat it up for you, esp if they see how bad/frozen the KSML is or if there is no KSML.

CX is the strictest but if you ask them to try eating a frozen KSML even they may relent.

Dunno - but with liquids, sauces, etc. in a sealed package we were concerned that TSA might make us dump it.  I've read lots of weird stories about TSA folks making people throw out all sorts of things.

Thanks for the tip though.  Next time we fly I will definitely purchase some Pomegranate meals to take along.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 13, 2014, 04:07:08 PM
There's no sauce rule.
Unless it's a separate cup over 3 ounces of it.

And they can see through sealed packages just like they can see through your clothes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: FlightGuy on February 13, 2014, 04:38:44 PM
Why would there be a security issue with food???????
And most FAs will heat it up for you, esp if they see how bad/frozen the KSML is or if there is no KSML.

CX is the strictest but if you ask them to try eating a frozen KSML even they may relent.

Dan, do you have any experience with meals on AZ? Id rather not shlep myown food but dont want to be disappointed. Thanks!
Title: Kosher Meals with a Hi Grade Hashgacha
Post by: Isaac.f on February 27, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
I am traveling on United airline from EWR to FRA. Does anyone know who is the Kosher Caterer for the Airline?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 04, 2014, 08:46:26 PM
SN, JFK-BRU J, anyone?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on March 26, 2014, 04:40:34 PM
CX refused to heat up Pomegranate meals in F from JFK-HKG.

I know it's been stated before, but it's a tough pill to swallow.

Will KE be any better?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 26, 2014, 04:51:30 PM
CX refused to heat up Pomegranate meals in F from JFK-HKG.

I know it's been stated before, but it's a tough pill to swallow.

Will KE be any better?
Nothing new there, CX is infamous for that policy (and other asinine policies like their carseat policies).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 26, 2014, 10:54:34 PM
LH FRA-RZE J - probably the most decent KSML bet on my entire trip.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on March 26, 2014, 11:00:39 PM
LH FRA-RZE J - probably the most decent KSML bet on my entire trip.

Interesting. Never saw this kind of meal from Zohar, it's always the salmon fish for the last 3 yearsm
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 26, 2014, 11:03:22 PM
LO WAW-JFK

Stogel  :o :o :o :o

Can someone tell me what this supposed to  be?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 26, 2014, 11:05:33 PM
Looks like something from fear factor.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 26, 2014, 11:38:02 PM
And what is this?  ::)

Forgot to add, this was served in J.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 26, 2014, 11:57:22 PM
Breakfast SN J JFK-BRU
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 27, 2014, 12:32:25 AM
And what is this?  ::)

Whoa, takes "inedible" to new heights, did u hand it back to FA full? ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 27, 2014, 12:37:46 AM
I actually went to sleep right after take off (flat bed :) ) and didn't get the first meal, so when I woke up an hour before landing, I was offered 2 meals...

And yes... besides for the Halva I handed them back full.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 27, 2014, 12:38:57 AM
The brown thing supposed to be Tuna.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 14, 2014, 03:29:45 PM
Interesting. Never saw this kind of meal from Zohar, it's always the salmon fish for the last 3 yearsm
i got a nice piece of meat from them. it was pretty good
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 14, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
Whats the chance I get a kosher for Pesach meal on my TK flight Wednesday ORD-IST?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 02, 2014, 01:47:07 AM
My meal JFK-AMS was Kosher for Passover


(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ga7arasu.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: TimT on May 02, 2014, 02:21:33 AM
My meal JFK-AMS was Kosher for Passover


(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ga7arasu.jpg)
Did it come with a piece of matza ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AnonymousUser on May 02, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
Did it come with a piece of matza ?
We got kosher l'pesach meals on United the day after Pesach from EWR to TLV, with matzah and pesach cake. We didn't eat the matzah, and when the steward came around to collect the garbage, he said "I guess you guys had enough matzah over Pesach." :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: TimT on May 02, 2014, 10:19:25 AM
We got kosher l'pesach meals on United the day after Pesach from EWR to TLV, with matzah and pesach cake. We didn't eat the matzah, and when the steward came around to collect the garbage, he said "I guess you guys had enough matzah over Pesach." :)
Smart steward
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 02, 2014, 10:37:38 AM
Just took ewr-tlv UA J. i dont have pics on my compt (only phone) meal was decent. I didnt bring any food bec someone in my house thought the turkey wrap was extra in the fridge :P

Either way food was decent they served fish and salad for the first course and meat stew or chicken for the main. Breakfast was an omelet or blintz. Everything was double wrapped and served on china with real silverware.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 04, 2014, 08:44:53 AM
Thoughts on Mezonos rolls that so often come in the meal? Do you hold of mezonos bread?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 04, 2014, 09:06:08 AM
Thoughts on Mezonos rolls that so often come in the meal? Do you hold of mezonos bread?
check the ingredients and ask your LOR.
unless your just taking a poll, and then yes I do unless im kovea seuda on it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 04, 2014, 10:03:12 AM

....unless im kovea seuda on it.
and those rolls are way to small to be kovea seudah
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on May 04, 2014, 10:32:48 AM
Yeah, guess I'll just have to ask. Thanks

In terms of random countries/hashgachas, is it safe to assume all Kosher airline meals are actually Kosher? If I won't find out the hashgacha till I'm on the plane, it won't be easy to AMLOR.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 04, 2014, 12:32:11 PM
and those rolls are way to small to be kovea seudah
Doesn't necessarily go by the bread, but the entire meal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 04, 2014, 01:20:03 PM
Austrian J had a great KSML. Overall great product on the 777
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 02:20:24 PM
Austrian J had a great KSML. Overall great product on the 777
Which KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 04, 2014, 03:49:13 PM
I don't remember. What are the options? It was a 2 course meal from a local caterer. The nain was a meatloaf thing with potatoes. It was hot, fresh and delicious.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: pizzahut on May 05, 2014, 07:12:33 AM
what compensation can you get when the airlines inevitably screw up your special meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 05, 2014, 09:26:10 AM
Airline: JJ
Class: F
Route: JFK-GRU
Caterer: Borenstein
Flight date: 05/01/14.

Does Borenstein make anything besides chicken breast with potatoes and veggies?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jd399 on May 05, 2014, 02:43:29 PM
Whats the meal for breakfast first class JFK to LA and lunch or dinner on delta.
Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 06, 2014, 08:05:42 AM
Which KSML?

The meal was from Berenholtz. I was told that it is delivered fresh every morning. 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on May 06, 2014, 08:09:51 AM
The meal was from Berenholtz. I was told that it is delivered fresh every morning.

Out of VIE is a local with a good hasgcha, and the food is very good
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 06, 2014, 08:11:50 AM
I think it is time for a change.

We can start with the USA airlines. The meals they serve are unacceptable, especially in First and Business.

With Dans presence on the blogosphere and our collective worth as individuals, we're sure to get their attention if we band together.

We should have some sort of brainstorming session where we swap ideas and decide on an approach.

Between the airlines, the vendors and mainstream media we're bound to get a reaction.

I would think that with a bit of extra effort any ex NYC flight should be able to have freshly cooked food, at the least in premium cabins.

Its time for us to band together and be heard.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lunatic on May 06, 2014, 08:26:06 AM
I think it is time for a change.

We can start with the USA airlines. The meals they serve are unacceptable, especially in First and Business.

With Dans presence on the blogosphere and our collective worth as individuals, we're sure to get their attention if we band together.

We should have some sort of brainstorming session where we swap ideas and decide on an approach.

Between the airlines, the vendors and mainstream media we're bound to get a reaction.

I would think that with a bit of extra effort any ex NYC flight should be able to have freshly cooked food, at the least in premium cabins.

Its time for us to band together and be heard.

Yeah, and then they will figure out what percentage of these are award flights....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 06, 2014, 09:08:38 AM
I think it is time for a change.

We can start with the USA airlines. The meals they serve are unacceptable, especially in First and Business.

With Dans presence on the blogosphere and our collective worth as individuals, we're sure to get their attention if we band together.

We should have some sort of brainstorming session where we swap ideas and decide on an approach.

Between the airlines, the vendors and mainstream media we're bound to get a reaction.

I would think that with a bit of extra effort any ex NYC flight should be able to have freshly cooked food, at the least in premium cabins.

Its time for us to band together and be heard.
Borenstein and the like have the monopoly. The Airlines are not interested in paying more. Especially the domestic once.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on May 06, 2014, 09:14:05 AM
AA does not even offer kosher food in First class from NYC to Miami.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 06, 2014, 09:14:21 AM
Well on my Delta flight from AMS yesterday in economy I had Stogel meals which actually weren't that bad and 100% better than the ones I had in business on LOT.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2014, 12:57:57 PM
Well on my Delta flight from AMS yesterday in economy I had Stogel meals which actually weren't that bad and 100% better than the ones I had in business on LOT.
Do you also like catnip?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 06, 2014, 12:58:31 PM

Do you also like catnip?

Depends which brand. But sometimes yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2014, 01:07:43 PM
I think it is time for a change.

We can start with the USA airlines. The meals they serve are unacceptable, especially in First and Business.

With Dans presence on the blogosphere and our collective worth as individuals, we're sure to get their attention if we band together.

We should have some sort of brainstorming session where we swap ideas and decide on an approach.

Between the airlines, the vendors and mainstream media we're bound to get a reaction.

I would think that with a bit of extra effort any ex NYC flight should be able to have freshly cooked food, at the least in premium cabins.

Its time for us to band together and be heard.

The airlines only care about the bottom line.  The reason for non C"Y meals on some airlines is because it's a few cents cheaper.
There's no chance of mass media caring, thus no chance of any innovation in this space except maybe on a route like TLV in J.

Frankly though, who cares?
Bring a double wrapped meal from a restaurant or POM, have them heat it up, and eat like a king.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 06, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
The airlines only care about the bottom line.  The reason for non C"Y meals on some airlines is because it's a few cents cheaper.
There's no chance of mass media caring, thus no chance of any innovation in this space except maybe on a route like TLV in J.

Frankly though, who cares?
Bring a double wrapped meal from a restaurant or POM, have them heat it up, and eat like a king.
+10000
Why are people here delusional that mass media will care about your dumb kosher meals
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 06, 2014, 05:06:04 PM
I accept everyone's critique. However, I don't think we have to be at the mercy of the caterers. For the most part the meals on European and Asian carriers is far superior.

While one can always bring food from POM or the like, how about on the return? How about someone not based in NYC.

I am not asking for more food, or more expensive food. I'm asking for accountability. It is unacceptable to be served a stale frozen turkey sandwich with an 18 month freezer life.

An idea would be to get on to social media, blogs etc and get people to STOP ordering KSML. Pretty soon the caterers will see a decline in orders and will have to up their game.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 06, 2014, 05:18:09 PM
An idea would be to get on to social media, blogs etc and get people to STOP ordering KSML. Pretty soon the caterers will see a decline in orders and will have to up their game.
Now that would be an idea. Although I don't think you'll gain any traction
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2014, 06:36:26 PM
Stop ordering KSML and they'll just scrub it altogether due to lack of interest.

And EU may be home to Hermolis, but its also home to Stogel.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Bostener on May 06, 2014, 06:39:28 PM
Stop ordering KSML and they'll just scrub it altogether due to lack of interest.

And EU may be home to Hermolis, but its also home to Stogel.

We still need to write to the airline.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 06, 2014, 07:20:53 PM
Stop ordering KSML and they'll just scrub it altogether due to lack of interest.

And EU may be home to Hermolis, but its also home to Stogel.

They would never scrub it. Can you inagine the outrage for discrimination against kosher eaters.

And a hunger strike will definitely get national media coverage.

As the de facto leader here Dan, I urge you to take on this cause.

All we need is for the vp of special meals to see that they are paying a premium price for an inferior product. They can see how their European and Asian counterparts are doing so much more with the same budget.

All I want is fresh and tasty. I'm not asking for steak and sea bass.

You all complain about the meals and Dan has even blogged about it on the DDMS. I have presented a workable idea with the hunger strike. Lets do something, anything, not sit back and wrinkle our noses at the crap being served to us.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2014, 07:38:07 PM
Discrimination? Are you kidding me?

They owe us nothing.

Otherwise go complain to SPG for discriminating against orthodox plats for not having KSML brekkies.

And you don't need to "live in NYC" to bring a double wrapped kosher meal. Sheesh.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 06, 2014, 07:49:41 PM
Can you inagine the outrage for discrimination against kosher eaters.

You're nuts
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 06, 2014, 08:03:39 PM
Discrimination? Are you kidding me?

They owe us nothing.

Otherwise go complain to SPG for discriminating against orthodox plats for not having KSML brekkies.

And you don't need to "live in NYC" to bring a double wrapped kosher meal. Sheesh.

If SPG served meals for Halal, Vegan, Hindu, low carb, fat and sodium, and all others and not Kosher we'd have what to complain about.

The meal is bundled into the fare. They are selling a seat on the plane including a meal. They offer Kosher, and I as a kosher consumer gave a right to demand an edible meal.

You are correct that you don't have to "live in NYC" to bring a double wrapped meal. However when running to catch a flight straight from the office, or on a return flight where there are no kosher options, then what?

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 06, 2014, 08:04:06 PM
You're nuts

I appreciate your input.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 06, 2014, 09:24:43 PM
Stop ordering KSML and they'll just scrub it altogether due to lack of interest
Isn't that the point? To put pressure on the kosher caterers?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 06, 2014, 09:32:49 PM
Even if Jews tried to pressure Borenstein and Co. to repent and turn a new leaf by not ordering KSMLs, it wouldn't matter.

The airlines would still order and keep these guys in business, because, politically, airlines offering "meals for Halal, Vegan, Hindu, low carb" etc etc and not Kosher is a sticky issue, right or wrong.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2014, 09:49:09 PM
UA already got rid of all SMLs on EWR-LAX in F.
How far do you think they really are from getting rid of SMLs systemwide except destinations like BOM and TLV? Just a matter of who blinks first.  SMLs have been dying a slow death for years.

And how many people would really care if they did?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 06, 2014, 10:07:06 PM
Domestic. Not as large of an issue.

Every respected airline I know of offers Kosher on international routes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2014, 10:09:54 PM
Won't be too long before meals are sold internationally in coach. Nobody buys coach airfare for the food, thus it's not a differentiator and will be next on the chopping board.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 06, 2014, 10:52:17 PM
You're nuts
I think just delusional
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 06, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
Even if Jews tried to pressure Borenstein and Co. to repent and turn a new leaf by not ordering KSMLs, it wouldn't matter.

The airlines would still order and keep these guys in business, because, politically, airlines offering "meals for Halal, Vegan, Hindu, low carb" etc etc and not Kosher is a sticky issue, right or wrong.

They will only order meals based on the volume of meals requested. If we got the word out for the people to take a stand they would see a decline in volume pretty quickly.

UA already got rid of all SMLs on EWR-LAX in F.
How far do you think they really are from getting rid of SMLs systemwide except destinations like BOM and TLV? Just a matter of who blinks first.  SMLs have been dying a slow death for years.

And how many people would really care if they did?

There would be huge lawsuits if they didn't offer an option for every denomination. It would be all or none, and I don't see the airlines alienating all Jews, Muslims, Hindu, Diabetics etc.

Won't be too long before meals are sold internationally in coach. Nobody buys coach airfare for the food, thus it's not a differentiator and will be next on the chopping board.

Nobody buys any airfare for the food. You take somebody anywhere for a significant amount of time, you are expected to serve food. Once they are serving food, they should serve edible food.

They will never get rid of the meal service on international travel, it generates revenue by getting folks to purchase premium beverages. The next step will be offering an upgraded meal for a charge. 

I'm tired of being taken advantage of by Borenstien, Regal and the like.

I think just delusional

I don't think you're giving me a fair chance.

Having flown 75,000 miles this year both domestic and international, I have had a chance to taste the best and worst of KSML. The food they serve on the US carriers is a disgrace. It wont take much for change to happen. The caterers depend on the consumer ordering their food to make a living. The same way we would never revisit a restaurant that served utter crap, we should petition for higher standards!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 07, 2014, 12:27:58 AM
I think just delusional
Nah. Some weird entitlement
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Bostener on May 07, 2014, 03:04:58 AM
We should make the board members of the airlines eat this food.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 07, 2014, 08:29:56 AM
Nah. Some weird entitlement
Agreed.
But delusional about the fact that the media will care
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 08:42:42 AM
We should make the board members of the airlines eat this food.

They would never subject themselves to eating something so vile. Which is what tells me that it's time for an overhaul.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
Nah. Some weird entitlement

Have you ever sent back food at a restaurant? How about returned spoiled milk to the grocery? Or how about returned a shirt because it didn't fit well, or you just didnt like it?

Does that make you entitled? When you purchase something do yiu not have the right to expect a satisfactory product?

Why should an airline meal be any different?


Agreed.
But delusional about the fact that the media will care

I ask you the same as I asked PG above.

We dont need this to be picked up by Reuters. We are a farily insular community, and if VIN, or DD, or even some local community weekly circular wrote about it the message would be heard.

In order to make that happen we need to band together and make enough noise. An imposed hunger strike would accomplish that in less than a week.

So be cynical all you want. I'm standing up for something I belive in.

Frankly unless your name is Borenstien or Regal I'm not sure how you are all not joining my call to action.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 07, 2014, 09:10:04 AM
Not eating airline meals is not a hunger strike. And a small local paper picking this up or VIN, even if it would happen would accomplish nothing
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 07, 2014, 09:13:49 AM
Not eating airline meals is not a hunger strike. And a small local paper picking this up or VIN, even if it would happen would accomplish nothing
I could see a Mishpachah article picking up on this and making a bit of a splash (err a ripple)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 07, 2014, 10:19:55 AM
Won't be too long before meals are sold internationally in coach. Nobody buys coach airfare for the food, thus it's not a differentiator and will be next on the chopping board.

Meh.

To say that "nobody buys coach airfare for the food" and that therefore leads to it "not being a differentiator" is an improper leap.

Food vs no food in coach is a very real differentiator. The airline that decides to takes that jump is in for a ride.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 10:39:34 AM
If it didn't matter EWR-LAX in first it won't matter EWR-LHR in coach.

This is not an if situation but a when situation.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 07, 2014, 10:41:05 AM
If it didn't matter EWR-LAX in first it won't matter EWR-LHR in coach.

This is not an if situation but a when situation.
That is nuts, What they should really offer is an upgraded kosher meal for 20$ or something.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 10:43:31 AM
Now that is an idea I'd support. Order in advance edible kosher meals.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 07, 2014, 10:48:27 AM
Now that is an idea I'd support. Order in advance edible kosher meals.
They've specifically said they don't have the technical capability to provide that reliably

If it didn't matter EWR-LAX in first it won't matter EWR-LHR in coach.

This is not an if situation but a when situation.

Personally I know many people who aren't price conscious at all but fly coach. I think KSML would make a difference to them. But the amount of people who would actually know in advance is minuscule and biased towards those who won't pay a dime extra
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 07, 2014, 10:50:23 AM
They've specifically said they don't have the technical capability to provide that reliably

Personally I know many people who aren't price conscious at all but fly coach. I think KSML would make a difference to them. But the amount of people who would actually know in advance is minuscule and biased towards those who won't pay a dime extra
It can be pretty simple. Have the 20$ package avail. needs to be ordered 48hrs in advance....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 11:16:16 AM
Not eating airline meals is not a hunger strike. And a small local paper picking this up or VIN, even if it would happen would accomplish nothing

I use the term hunger strike with literary license. As I said before we are an insular community and any mention in our media will have immediate effect. You don't think Mr Regal or Mr Borenstien read VIN or get Dans tweets? Or at the least their secretaries, mashgichim etc.

They are accountable for providing an edible meal just as a restaurant is. They should no longer be abe to get away with htis.

My problem isn't with the airlines directly. I have trouble grasping how the KSML providers are getting away with serving old, dry and tasteless crap.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 11:19:18 AM
You don't think I talked to the KSML guys? They come to my seminars.
The airlines bid it out and sell to the lowest bidder, that's why the food is junk and always will be junk until the day they cut it completely.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 11:24:37 AM
If it didn't matter EWR-LAX in first it won't matter EWR-LHR in coach.

This is not an if situation but a when situation.

I don't profess to know the reason behind that decision, however I'd wager that it must have been due to logistics and not done for cost-cutting.

Instead of being complacent with lack of KSML EWR-LAX and waiting for the other shoe to drop and have KSML scrubbed all together. I suggest you take a stand on this, and be the voice of your readers and followers.

You represent a very large market share of the kosher traveler. We all agree that the situation is far from ideal. We you readers and followers get you where you are today by supporting your links and contributing to these forums.  If anyone can give us a voice it is you, and I may be naive, or disillusioned or even nuts but I think TOGETHER we can make change!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 11:26:27 AM
You don't think I talked to the KSML guys? They come to my seminars.
The airlines bid it out and sell to the lowest bidder, that's why the food is junk and always will be junk until the day they cut it completely.

The other SML's look much better, and are always fresh. We all learn how to budget and make do with less. The KSML guys should be no different. I am not asking for steak and wine, all I want is fresh and edible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 11:26:59 AM
I don't profess to know the reason behind that decision, however I'd wager that it must have been due to logistics and not done for cost-cutting.
You crack me up.
Why don't you go start a WTP petition instead of telling me what to do.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
Now that is an idea I'd support. Order in advance edible kosher meals.

Start with that, make some noise. Lets get the word out that as a group we are unhappy with the way things are and demand some change.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
You crack me up.
Why don't you go start a WTP petition instead of telling me what to do.

LOL

Not telling you what to do.... trying to encourage you do take on the fight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 11:30:18 AM
Not telling you what to do
Of course you are, you even decided to start another thread to get others to tell me what to do.
I don't run a bully pulpit with an agenda, go to the other jewish-run sites for that.

This isn't an issue I care about enough, sorry.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 07, 2014, 11:34:25 AM
I don't profess to know the reason behind that decision, however I'd wager that it must have been due to logistics and not done for cost-cutting.

Instead of being complacent with lack of KSML EWR-LAX and waiting for the other shoe to drop and have KSML scrubbed all together. I suggest you take a stand on this, and be the voice of your readers and followers.

You represent a very large market share of the kosher traveler. We all agree that the situation is far from ideal. We you readers and followers get you where you are today by supporting your links and contributing to these forums.  If anyone can give us a voice it is you, and I may be naive, or disillusioned or even nuts but I think TOGETHER we can make change!
Speechless...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
Of course you are, you even decided to start another thread to get others to tell me what to do.
I don't run a bully pulpit with an agenda, go to the other jewish-run sites for that.

This isn't an issue I care about enough, sorry.

Again that is to encourage you do take on something important to your readers.
I don't think my idea is the only one, and demand that it be carried out. I am open to hear what you think.

I believe the KSML is a very important part of your travels. You always include it in your TR's along with pictures and comments. Why are you OK with making a big deal about onion rings at Harbor Grill, and complacent with the quality of the KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 11:41:53 AM
I believe the KSML is a very important part of your travels. You always include it in your TR's along with pictures and comments. Why are you OK with making a big deal about onion rings at Harbor Grill, and complacent with the quality of the KSML?
Do you really not get it?
I don't fly to eat in a metal tube, I fly to get somewhere nice and hopefully get there rested. An airline's core competency isn't food and that's why airline food is always made fun of. KSMLs aren't the only food made fun of, look at the UA board on FT deriding the regular F food as inedible.
Nobody says, hey I want a meal, how about I go buy an airplane ticket.  It's a holdover perk from a bygone era when airfare was only for the 1% and therefore it included food.
Personally I would rather a double wrapped shnitzel sandwich than anything they're going to come up with.

However I go to Harbour Grill to eat. And for a place that bills itself as a world class restaurant star to sit other parties 4 inches from me and to serve frozen bagged onion is disgraceful. Food, ambiance, and service are all required to be top notch at a world class restaurant.  That's their entire raison d'etre.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lunatic on May 07, 2014, 11:46:24 AM
Again that is to encourage you do take on something important to your readers.
I don't think my idea is the only one, and demand that it be carried out. I am open to hear what you think.

I believe the KSML is a very important part of your travels. You always include it in your TR's along with pictures and comments. Why are you OK with making a big deal about onion rings at Harbor Grill, and complacent with the quality of the KSML?

Get the hint... Dan is not going to care
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 07, 2014, 12:20:43 PM
Again that is to encourage you do take on something important to your readers.
FTFY
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 07, 2014, 12:25:37 PM
It can be pretty simple. Have the 20$ package avail. needs to be ordered 48hrs in advance....

Logistics ain't simple. We all know just how good they are at the more basic airline functions.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on May 07, 2014, 12:49:32 PM
Do you really not get it?
I don't fly to eat in a metal tube, I fly to get somewhere nice and hopefully get there rested. An airline's core competency isn't food and that's why airline food is always made fun of. KSMLs aren't the only food made fun of, look at the UA board on FT deriding the regular F food as inedible.
Nobody says, hey I want a meal, how about I go buy an airplane ticket.  It's a holdover perk from a bygone era when airfare was only for the 1% and therefore it included food.
Personally I would rather a double wrapped shnitzel sandwich than anything they're going to come up with.

However I go to Harbour Grill to eat. And for a place that bills itself as a world class restaurant star to sit other parties 4 inches from me and to serve frozen bagged onion is disgraceful. Food, ambiance, and service are all required to be top notch at a world class restaurant.  That's their entire raison d'etre.

I understand your premise, where you don't fly to be able to experience a good meal. Nor do I!

However I will draw the line at being denied an edible meal by the KSML providers. If they are being paid to provide a meal, they should be held accountable to ensure it is indeed fit to be served. This is especially true in premium cabins.

I see I am wasting my breath here, so I will lay down my keyboard and resign myself to eating sub-par food when flying US carriers.  However I am a bit surprised that the guys here at the epicenter of Kosher travel aren't  rising up in arms with me.

FTFY

I can't believe that I am the  the only one.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 02:46:18 PM
You don't think I talked to the KSML guys? They come to my seminars.
The airlines bid it out and sell to the lowest bidder, that's why the food is junk and always will be junk until the day they cut it completely.
+1. They guy who runs Stogel told me, that the airlines tell him exactly which/how much chicken to put in. They wanted to make Beef and the like.. and the airline declined.

Now the question is, why are the non kosher meals better? Obviously because that would make them loos some revenue... It will be the talk in town if a airline starts serving in F what they serve for the Kosher travelers. But nothing will happen when they serve low class meals for the tiny percent of Kosher travelers.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 03:01:36 PM
KSMLs aren't the only food made fun of, look at the UA board on FT deriding the regular F food as inedible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 03:07:00 PM

C'mon.. Don't compare..

Compare the pictures you post of your scrumptious KSML and the pictures Lucky is posting of his meals.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 07, 2014, 03:27:39 PM
C'mon.. Don't compare..

Compare the pictures you post of your scrumptious KSML and the pictures Lucky is posting of his meals.
Lucky is posting pics of foreign carriers who have onboard chefs. Can't compare UA F meal to TG, LH, etc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 03:32:30 PM
Lucky is posting pics of foreign carriers who have onboard chefs. Can't compare UA F meal to TG, LH, etc.
Correct. Ask MosheP ..foreign carriers should have onboard Kosher chefs as well  ;)

But even on the domestic carriers the non Kosher meals are waayyyy better. I believe Lucky has pictures of domestic carriers as well.. Compare them to Dan's pictures..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 07, 2014, 03:34:35 PM


I can't believe that I am the  the only one.
your not but its not really worth making a stink over it as nothing will ever change
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 03:40:45 PM
Correct. Ask MosheP ..foreign carriers should have onboard Kosher chefs as well  ;)

But even on the domestic carriers the non Kosher meals are waayyyy better. I believe Lucky has pictures of domestic carriers as well.. Compare them to Dan's pictures..
Of course the non-kosher is better.  Just like a non-kosher restaurant is going to be better and cheaper than it's kosher equivalent.
This is the price we pay for being frum.  I don't expect an airline to cater to my personal religious observances any more than I expect any other non-religious institution to.

Also I'm not the only one suggesting to bring restaurant food...http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1561420-feedback-current-ua-menus-2014-a-5.html#post22548718
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 07, 2014, 04:25:10 PM
Just like a non-kosher restaurant is going to be better than it's kosher equivalent.
 
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Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
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Equivalent
e·quiv·a·lent
adjective
    1.
    equal in value
At the same price point
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 07, 2014, 05:01:11 PM
Equivalent
e·quiv·a·lent
adjective
    1.
    equal in value
At the same price point
If by equivalent you meant price then what Does this mean?

Of course the non-kosher is better.  Just like a non-kosher restaurant is going to be better and CHEAPER than it's kosher equivalent.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 05:05:28 PM
If by equivalent you meant price then what Does this mean?
It costs 2x-3x the price to get the same quality.
At the same price level it's not comparable.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 06:21:17 PM
It costs 2x-3x the price to get the same quality.
At the same price level it's not comparable.
They pay less for KSML in J/F, it should'n be like this, period. they should at least be willing to pay for Stogel as much as they pay for the non KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 07, 2014, 06:27:29 PM
Non-KSML is mostly a fixed cost business, airlines like UA own their own catering service.
KSML is variable cost, hence why it's sent out to the lowest bidder.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 07, 2014, 07:01:42 PM
hence why it's sent out to the lowest bidder.
Is this really true?  :o Awful.

Makes it sound soooo cheap.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Bostener on May 07, 2014, 07:05:07 PM
Non-KSML is mostly a fixed cost business, airlines like UA own their own catering service.
KSML is variable cost, hence why it's sent out to the lowest bidder.
First of all the non-kosher special meals are also variable cost and even I never had it I have been told that they don't serve it old and half frozen.

And I don't think these meals if accounted for as fixed costs confirms with GAAP 8) Moshe, I thing it's time to report that to the SEC ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yungerman on May 07, 2014, 11:54:25 PM
Anyone know if morning flights in F on the transcon AA JFK-LAX have Cholov Yisroel meals? Couldn't find anything definite on other threads.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on May 08, 2014, 08:15:01 AM
Non-KSML is mostly a fixed cost business, airlines like UA own their own catering service.
KSML is variable cost, hence why it's sent out to the lowest bidder.
Why is non-KSML a fixed cost and KSML a variable cost?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 08, 2014, 08:33:15 AM
Why is non-KSML a fixed cost and KSML a variable cost?
It's like the difference between making your own food and eating out at a restaurant
Title: Kosher food on AA
Post by: EandN on May 13, 2014, 05:37:43 PM
 I’m flying AA from Montreal to CA with a Dallas stopover business and first class. I get meals but they say no kosher meals are offered for such flights. Only on long international flights. Is there a way to get kosher meals? Speak to a supervisor? Thanks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 13, 2014, 05:39:32 PM
I’m flying AA from Montreal to CA with a Dallas stopover business and first class. I get meals but they say no kosher meals are offered for such flights. Only on long international flights. Is there a way to get kosher meals? Speak to a supervisor? Thanks.
Nope
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EandN on May 13, 2014, 08:18:08 PM
Thanks. Not what I wanted to hear and a bit surprising but good to know not to waste any more time trying.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 13, 2014, 09:15:21 PM
Should I expect anything decent on Cathay Pacific tomorrow? Flying F ORD-HKG?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 13, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
FWIW, I found the food on CX F JFK-YVR to be quite tasty... for airplane food.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 13, 2014, 09:25:35 PM
FWIW, I found the food on CX F JFK-YVR to be quite tasty... for airplane food.

So is that a maybe? or a YMMV?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 13, 2014, 09:37:22 PM
FWIW, I found the food on CX F JFK-YVR to be quite tasty... for airplane food.

I flew F same route and got regular Borenstein meal. It's very decent, but nothing over the top.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on May 13, 2014, 11:15:48 PM
Pretty good Borenstein meal on Delta JFK-SEA.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: FlightGuy on May 14, 2014, 04:58:26 PM
Pretty good Borenstein meal on Delta JFK-SEA.

Really good Borenstein meal from JFK-FCO on Alitalia! And really good meal on a 3 hr flight on Alitalia from FCO-TLV (the meal was from a caterer in Amsterdam)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 19, 2014, 10:15:11 AM
Just flew HKG-BKK on CX J and got Hermolis meal. Was actually pretty good. For the main dish they had a choice of either Potatoes & Ratatouille or Stir Fried Lamb. They bough both out to me so I got to try both. The Ratatouille had almost no flavoring but the Stir Fried Lamb was quite good.

The sad part is that there was more food on this tray on this 2.5 hr flight than there was on my ORD-HKG flight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 10:37:19 AM
Just flew HKG-BKK on CX J and got Hermolis meal. Was actually pretty good. For the main dish they had a choice of either Potatoes & Ratatouille or Stir Fried Lamb. They bough both out to me so I got to try both. The Ratatouille had almost no flavoring but the Stir Fried Lamb was quite good.

The sad part is that there was more food on this tray on this 2.5 hr flight than there was on my ORD-HKG flight.
Ex-HKG KSMLs on CX are very good. Hermolis Lamb, duck, etc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 19, 2014, 10:40:44 AM
Ex-HKG KSMLs on CX are very good. Hermolis Lamb, duck, etc.
Sweet, i have a cx hkg-jfk for this summer
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 19, 2014, 10:42:27 AM
Ex-HKG KSMLs on CX are very good. Hermolis Lamb, duck, etc.

Yup. Now I know. The lamb was very tasty and had plenty of meat in it. Maybe some of those other caterers should take some lessons from Hermolis
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 04:36:58 PM
Yup. Now I know. The lamb was very tasty and had plenty of meat in it. Maybe some of those other caterers should take some lessons from Hermolis
Did you get a meal in the lounge also?
Hermolis charges $$$$ for their meals. 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 20, 2014, 01:39:47 AM

Did you get a meal in the lounge also?
Hermolis charges $$$$ for their meals.

I did not. I didnt even deal with asking and didnt have that long there. I checked in at the Airport Express and only went last minute.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Bostener on May 20, 2014, 01:49:41 AM
Did you get a meal in the lounge also?
Hermolis charges $$$$ for their meals.

This info should be added to the Wiki of kosher food in lounges.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: harry on May 25, 2014, 04:00:21 AM
where is the wiki of kosher food in lounges?

link please?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 25, 2014, 04:02:42 AM
where is the wiki of kosher food in lounges?

link please?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10590
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @jack123 on May 27, 2014, 03:00:34 PM
whats the easiest way to order ksml on cx?
I have two bookings, on with ba avios and one with AA miles. couldnt find the reservation on cathay's website with either confirmation number.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 27, 2014, 03:11:41 PM
whats the easiest way to order ksml on cx?
I have two bookings, on with ba avios and one with AA miles. couldnt find the reservation on cathay's website with either confirmation number.

For the AA one AA rep can actually request it, or just PUTPAC cathay and they can find them. I called and gave them my AA confirmation and they found it right away
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tax on May 27, 2014, 03:14:32 PM
Non-KSML is mostly a fixed cost business, airlines like UA own their own catering service.
KSML is variable cost, hence why it's sent out to the lowest bidder.

Call the investor relations of the airline or even the SEC that you are displeased with this method of accounting for the food cost.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: leahchana on May 28, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
Any info on Alitalia meals? Flying Chicago to Rome to TLV.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on May 29, 2014, 02:16:57 PM
JFYI:

TG KSML:
Code: [Select]
                        MEAL SERVICE          EN  17APR12 0345Z                 
   * KOSHER MEAL (KSML) *                                                       
  FOOD FOR JEWS CONFORMING TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF JEWISH                       
  DIETARY LAWS.                                                                 
                                                                               
  THERE ARE 2 TYPES OF KOSHER MEAL                                             
         * KADESSIA  - FOR ALL P/J CLASS PASSENGERS.                           
         * GUTTAMANN - FOR ALL ECONOMY CLASS PASSENGERS.                       
                                                                               
  AS KSML * KADESSIA * IS NEEDED TO STORE IN DEEP FROZEN                       
  AND TAKE 24 HRS. TO DEFROST BEFORE DELIVERY TO THE AIR-    .                 
  CRAFT IT THEREFORE COULD NOT BE RETURNED STORE IN CASE                       
  OF CANCELLATION OR NO SHOW.                                                   
                                                                               
  THERE IS NO KOSHER MEAL STORED AT BKK DOMESTIC FLIGHT KIT-                   
  CHEN  * FRESH FRUITS * WILL BE SERVED INSTEAD.                               
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 02, 2014, 11:17:36 AM
How do you know if you can drink a coke on intl flights? Especially ones that don't depart or arrive at USA or TLV?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on June 02, 2014, 11:18:52 AM
How do you know if you can drink a coke on intl flights? Especially ones that don't depart or arrive at USA or TLV?
Ask a Rabbi?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: joeberg on June 02, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
Ask a Rabbi?
How does the Rabbi know? ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 02, 2014, 12:19:05 PM
Ask a Rabbi?
Ok, just thought people might know which cities have Kosher coke.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on June 02, 2014, 12:30:40 PM
Ok, just thought people might know which cities have Kosher coke.
Didn't know there was a non-kosher Coke.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: how on June 02, 2014, 12:49:29 PM
How do you know if you can drink a coke on intl flights? Especially ones that don't depart or arrive at USA or TLV?
Who said you could???

We had this out already on the forums a long while ago
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: how on June 02, 2014, 12:51:38 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16659.msg662428#msg662428 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=16659.msg662428#msg662428)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 02, 2014, 01:01:45 PM
Just called the OU and they said it either has to have a hechsher or if it doesn't, it must be bottled in USA, Canada, or Puerto Rico. I told him about the EU article that was quoted in the thread you just linked to and he said he has no idea what that's about, "Without the hechsher or from a bottling plant list above, it's not Kosher."
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: how on June 02, 2014, 02:37:17 PM
Just called the OU and they said it either has to have a hechsher or if it doesn't, it must be bottled in USA, Canada, or Puerto Rico. I told him about the EU article that was quoted in the thread you just linked to and he said he has no idea what that's about, "Without the hechsher or from a bottling plant list above, it's not Kosher."
Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on June 25, 2014, 04:24:25 PM
Trying to order kosher wine for SQ Suites flight JFK-FRA.

Regular reps seem not to know how to get it done.

Any tips?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: DXD on June 30, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
A few weeks ago we flew the CLT -> BCN route (USAir) booked with AA points. I had called in a kosher meal request to USAir, but on the plane the attendants had no record of it.

Two questions:
1. Who should I complain to (USAir or AA)?
2. Any expectation of getting anything as a result?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 30, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
Airline: BA
Class: J
Route: LCY-JFK
Caterer: Hermolis
Hechsher: Kedassia
Meal in pics: Lunch

Appetiser and salad weren't really edible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: alt123 on July 31, 2014, 03:43:11 PM
What hechsher on UA BusFirst(I) EWR-CDG?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on August 01, 2014, 07:49:52 AM
What hechsher on UA BusFirst(I) EWR-CDG?
Would say Regal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on August 03, 2014, 09:58:08 PM
Do got the Pom meals heated on board, do they have to be in the microwave packaging or the oven packaging?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on August 05, 2014, 09:14:29 AM
Do got the Pom meals heated on board, do they have to be in the microwave packaging or the oven packaging?
Keep in mind most planes don't have a microwave
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: alt123 on August 05, 2014, 04:47:52 PM
Is the food any good on UA BusFirst, EWR-CDG and LY Business TLV-YYZ, or should i bring my own?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dovy2 on August 13, 2014, 12:15:00 PM
is it true that flights on aa/us airlines between us and canada don't serve kosher meals? that's what they are telling me... bluff?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 13, 2014, 12:15:44 PM
is it true that flights on aa/us airlines between us and canada don't serve kosher meals? that's what they are telling me... bluff?

They are correct. No kosher meals
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on August 13, 2014, 01:28:07 PM
TLV-JFK swiss J; Is "Kosher" enough or there is there "Strictly kosher" too ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on August 16, 2014, 06:24:34 PM
Does anyone know what type of KSML is served on JetBlue Mint?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: oreo on August 16, 2014, 07:08:29 PM
They are correct. No kosher meals

They're not serving any meals at all so you can't really request a kosher version of nothing. But generally some of the snacks for purchase are hechshered.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on August 16, 2014, 07:22:56 PM
does anyone have experience with SAS (scandinavian) how is their kosher meal in business IAD-CPH-MAN
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: username on September 04, 2014, 02:20:02 PM
Really good Borenstein meal from JFK-FCO on Alitalia! And really good meal on a 3 hr flight on Alitalia from FCO-TLV (the meal was from a caterer in Amsterdam)

Any information on the hechsher on the FCO-TLV flight?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: nam on September 15, 2014, 08:52:55 PM
What hechsher on air berlin from Tlv-Txl/Dus?

TIA
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on September 16, 2014, 04:41:41 AM
does anyone have experience with SAS (scandinavian) how is their kosher meal in business IAD-CPH-MAN
bump
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on September 16, 2014, 04:43:52 AM
Any information on the hechsher on the FCO-TLV flight?
I cannot recall the exact hechsher but I do remember that it's a European hechsher maybe Antwerp
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: TDweck on September 16, 2014, 10:12:58 AM
CX First JFK- YVR.  Regal.  Food was good i thought, definitely edible.  Had this cream puff that was packed with very heavy chocolate cream which was spectacular.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 16, 2014, 10:21:51 AM
CX First JFK- YVR.  Regal.  Food was good i thought, definitely edible.  Had this cream puff that was packed with very heavy chocolate cream which was spectacular.
I did the same flight a couple of weeks ago, I got Regal  business class food, barely edible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 16, 2014, 10:23:43 AM
CX First JFK- YVR.  Regal.  Food was good i thought, definitely edible.  Had this cream puff that was packed with very heavy chocolate cream which was spectacular.
It was bornstein.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on September 16, 2014, 05:09:39 PM
It was bornstein.
Regal is bornstein
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 16, 2014, 05:20:14 PM
Regal is bornstein
Oh
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 16, 2014, 05:21:09 PM
 who does SQ F use? Out of JFK
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 16, 2014, 05:25:37 PM
who does SQ F use? Out of JFK

Look on Dans TR.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on September 16, 2014, 05:32:03 PM
who does SQ F use? Out of JFK
Bornstein Business class meal on paper plates
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 16, 2014, 05:37:18 PM
Bornstein Business class meal on paper plates


time for a petition to get Pomegranate in the airline food industry, who's in?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 16, 2014, 09:13:11 PM


time for a petition to get Pomegranate in the airline food industry, who's in?
Did you miss the memo that airlines are cheap.
You want good food? Bring it yourself and have them heat it up.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 16, 2014, 09:15:56 PM
Did you miss the memo that airlines are cheap.
You want good food? Bring it yourself and have them heat it up.
True, but there  has to be something edible out of JFK similar to hermalis, pomegranate has the capability.
Did you miss the memo that airlines are cheap.
You want good food? Bring it yourself and have them heat it up.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shtank on September 17, 2014, 02:15:44 PM
Anyone have any recent experience with Turkish Airlines NYC-IST-TLV and return trip? What are the meals like and has anyone brought their own meals? what are the reheating options on Turkish?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on September 17, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
Anyone have any recent experience with Turkish Airlines NYC-IST-TLV and return trip? What are the meals like and has anyone brought their own meals? what are the reheating options on Turkish?

With what is going on now in Turkey, why would you fly with them?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shtank on September 17, 2014, 02:31:20 PM
With what is going on now in Turkey, why would you fly with them?
What exactly is going on in Turkey? And in answer to your question, because I got tickets for around $700 RT.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on September 17, 2014, 02:32:18 PM
What exactly is going on in Turkey? And in answer to your question, because I got tickets for around $700 RT.

Erdogan.  I wouldn't fly Turkish if you paid me.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shtank on September 17, 2014, 02:41:02 PM
Erdogan.  I wouldn't fly Turkish if you paid me.
If you don't want to fly with them, that's your prerogative but Erdogan doesn't own Turkish Airlines and, as I have commented in other threads, not flying Turkish doesn't hurt Erdogan or Turkey. In fact, if you choose to not fly to Israel because you can't afford anything more expensive than Turkish, you are actually hurting Israel more than Turkey. Israel's main source of income is tourism and by not flying there, you are depriving them of that income source. Of course, some may choose to fly other airlines and pay more, and so long as that doesn't change how much you spend while in Israel, that's fine. I personally want to go to Israel with my family and am unable to afford it unless I get it at a serious discount. I don't understand what "boycotting" Turkish Airlines does to make anyone feel better about Erdogan.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on September 17, 2014, 02:44:39 PM
If you don't want to fly with them, that's your prerogative but Erdogan doesn't own Turkish Airlines and, as I have commented in other threads, not flying Turkish doesn't hurt Erdogan or Turkey. In fact, if you choose to not fly to Israel because you can't afford anything more expensive than Turkish, you are actually hurting Israel more than Turkey. Israel's main source of income is tourism and by not flying there, you are depriving them of that income source. Of course, some may choose to fly other airlines and pay more, and so long as that doesn't change how much you spend while in Israel, that's fine. I personally want to go to Israel with my family and am unable to afford it unless I get it at a serious discount. I don't understand what "boycotting" Turkish Airlines does to make anyone feel better about Erdogan.

If you have to pay to fly to Israel you are already doing it all wrong. 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 17, 2014, 02:46:20 PM
If you have to pay to fly to Israel you are already doing it all wrong. 
:)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shtank on September 17, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
If you have to pay to fly to Israel you are already doing it all wrong.
:) I hear you, but not everyone has time or energy to do things the DansDeals way. All of my credit cards are transferable to cash at rates that usually are better than travel redemption (obviously through brokers) and I don't have the need to travel that much so I am not taking on the "credit card" lifestyle just to stick it to Erdogan :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 17, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
Israel's main source of income is tourism
thats not true

tourism accounts for less than 5% of Israel's GDP
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shtank on September 17, 2014, 10:38:32 PM
thats not true

tourism accounts for less than 5% of Israel's GDP
I stand corrected. I should have said that tourism is a major contributor to the economy. While it hovers around 5% of GDP and that sounds like a small number, it is not.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jackfirst on September 22, 2014, 10:23:10 PM
Hi,
Can someone please share their experience with Kosher Meals out of ORD, especially in premium classes.  
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on September 22, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
LOL
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on September 22, 2014, 11:37:00 PM
If you don't want to fly with them, that's your prerogative but Erdogan doesn't own Turkish Airlines and, as I have commented in other threads, not flying Turkish doesn't hurt Erdogan or Turkey. In fact, if you choose to not fly to Israel because you can't afford anything more expensive than Turkish, you are actually hurting Israel more than Turkey. Israel's main source of income is tourism and by not flying there, you are depriving them of that income source. Of course, some may choose to fly other airlines and pay more, and so long as that doesn't change how much you spend while in Israel, that's fine. I personally want to go to Israel with my family and am unable to afford it unless I get it at a serious discount. I don't understand what "boycotting" Turkish Airlines does to make anyone feel better about Erdogan.

+1, well said, sir.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 23, 2014, 12:44:24 AM
+1, well said, sir.
+1
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 23, 2014, 02:32:15 AM
Kosher wine in Austrian Business
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/23/2ave6y5e.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 23, 2014, 03:42:03 AM
Kosher wine in Austrian Business
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/09/23/2ave6y5e.jpg)
Did you have to make a special request for the wine?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 23, 2014, 03:58:42 AM
No
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sruly101 on September 23, 2014, 04:40:48 AM
No
Depart VIE or NYC?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JS69 on September 30, 2014, 09:34:04 AM
Does Delta serve a KSML on the JFK-SJU route in first?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HBERG on October 02, 2014, 02:25:18 PM
any info about the tlv-ist-mle meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on October 02, 2014, 02:55:45 PM

any info about the tlv-ist-mle meals?

I dont know the hechsher but the meals are from a place based in Turkey.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elit on October 05, 2014, 09:04:57 PM
Does anyone know what the hechsher is / who supplies the kosher meal for Aerflot: tlv-moscow-jfk
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on November 16, 2014, 04:58:04 PM
anyone familiar with the hashgacha on Alitalia J meals out of Rome, currently?  Last time I flew, it was a French hashgacha I wasn't familiar with.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: VacationLover on November 16, 2014, 05:12:11 PM
anyone familiar with the hashgacha on Alitalia J meals out of Rome, currently?  Last time I flew, it was a French hashgacha I wasn't familiar with.
Yup they still have that Hashgocha of the Chief Rabbi of France. Its actually considered as a good Hechsher.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 17, 2014, 04:39:20 AM
anyone familiar with the hashgacha on Alitalia J meals out of Rome, currently?  Last time I flew, it was a French hashgacha I wasn't familiar with.
was it this?

if not, anyone familiar with it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on November 17, 2014, 09:10:16 AM
anyone familiar with the hashgacha on Alitalia J meals out of Rome, currently?  Last time I flew, it was a French hashgacha I wasn't familiar with.
The meal I just got in Y, was something not even edible
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 18, 2014, 10:55:32 PM
Is it possible to request a Kosher fish meal on United TLV-EWR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on November 18, 2014, 11:12:46 PM
Is it possible to request a Kosher fish meal on United TLV-EWR?

No.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: netzih on November 20, 2014, 02:04:01 AM
Flying business first on ua from lax-Mel any way to request a vegetarian/fish kosher meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 20, 2014, 02:08:21 AM
Flying business first on ua from lax-Mel any way to request a vegetarian/fish kosher meal?
Is it possible to request a Kosher fish meal on United TLV-EWR?
No.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on November 20, 2014, 07:16:57 AM
Is it possible to request a Kosher fish meal on United TLV-EWR?
Other then LY, no other Kosher meal other then the standard. Anyone else cares to ask?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 20, 2014, 07:43:32 AM
Other airlines have vksm, I think sq
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on November 20, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
Other then LY, no other Kosher meal other then the standard. Anyone else cares to ask?

On LX you can request a kosher fish meal by calling up. I did it last your for my wife, in C. When I (meat-eater) got a cold cut snack, she got assortment of smoked and gefilte fish. When I got meat main dish she got salmon. All from Schalom catering in ZRH.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on November 20, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
Im flying MEL-BNE-LAX on QF. Anybody know who makes the KSML for BNE-LAX? Is it from SYD or MEL?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: oreo on November 26, 2014, 02:37:39 PM
Anyone know who UA uses for KSML out of either ORD or GRU?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on November 26, 2014, 02:40:20 PM

Anyone know who UA uses for KSML out of either ORD or GRU?

ORD I can tell you tomorrow. Will be on a flight soon. But one thing is for sure, you usually don't want to eat it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: oreo on November 26, 2014, 02:55:44 PM
ORD I can tell you tomorrow. Will be on a flight soon. But one thing is for sure, you usually don't want to eat it.

Thanks. Asking about Y as well as BF.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on November 27, 2014, 01:03:07 AM
Thanks. Asking about Y as well as BF.

Out of ORD Y was Regal.. Not even worth ordering.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: oreo on November 28, 2014, 01:46:32 PM
Thanks for the report. My GPU cleared but I have a suspicion that it'll be regal in BF too.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 29, 2014, 08:05:12 PM
Thanks for the report. My GPU cleared but I have a suspicion that it'll be regal in BF too.
Just FYI most of the times when a GPU clears, the KSML request falls off.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on November 29, 2014, 08:11:54 PM
Just FYI most of the times when a GPU clears, the KSML request falls off.
Usually all SSR mags fall off when anything chages
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on November 30, 2014, 06:01:55 PM
EY F KSML out of abudhabi, who do they use?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 30, 2014, 07:10:13 PM
EY F KSML out of abudhabi, who do they use?
i had stogel, but not the canned items
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 01, 2014, 03:21:35 PM
Besides for the fact the mail was terrible,, But why can't the company's atleast provide the right meal at the right time.

My flight this morning FRA-ORD a 8:30 flight I was served chicken and rice. Why can't I be served something more breakfast..

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 01, 2014, 03:32:27 PM
Besides for the fact the mail was terrible,, But why can't the company's atleast provide the right meal at the right time.

My flight this morning FRA-ORD a 8:30 flight I was served chicken and rice. Why can't I be served something more breakfast..

 >:( >:( >:(
Agree, have the same issue. Though with SQ Fra-JFK Biz I was served a dairy breakfast, with Hermolis.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: TDweck on December 01, 2014, 04:00:58 PM
Agree, have the same issue. Though with SQ Fra-JFK I was served a dairy breakfast, with Hermolis.

SQ FRA-JFK was Hermolis?  Any good?  Im taking that flight in a few weeks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 01, 2014, 04:01:59 PM
SQ FRA-JFK was Hermolis?  Any good?  Im taking that flight in a few weeks.
Very good. ( forgot to mention I flew in business)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: TDweck on December 01, 2014, 04:04:11 PM
Very good. ( forgot to mention I flew in business)

Neat.  I always read the food is terrible on SQ.  Suite for me :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 01, 2014, 04:05:06 PM
Neat.  I always read the food is terrible on SQ.  Suite for me :)
Out of JFK it's terrible
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on December 01, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Besides for the fact the mail was terrible,, But why can't the company's atleast provide the right meal at the right time.

My flight this morning FRA-ORD a 8:30 flight I was served chicken and rice. Why can't I be served something more breakfast..

 >:( >:( >:(
Which caterer?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 01, 2014, 06:51:59 PM
Which caterer?

Stogel
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on December 01, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
Stogel
Why did you even bother opening it....

Also, it was probably tuna with mozzarella cheese. Its very normal with Stogals to have a hard time identifying the food. You'll know for next time to look better.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 01, 2014, 07:47:10 PM

Why did you even bother opening it....

Also, it was probably tuna with mozzarella cheese. Its very normal with Stogals to have a hard time identifying the food. You'll know for next time to look better.

I didnt open it. I slept the whole flight. But for the few minutes I was up I went to the back and asked to see it. It was definitely chicken
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 01, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
It was definitely chicken
Famous last words…
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 01, 2014, 07:49:49 PM

Famous last words…

???
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on December 01, 2014, 07:54:16 PM
I didnt open it. I slept the whole flight. But for the few minutes I was up I went to the back and asked to see it. It was definitely chicken
You had laboratory equipment there?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 01, 2014, 08:09:02 PM

You had laboratory equipment there?

No. But thats what it said on the wrapper.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on December 01, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
No. But thats what it said on the wrapper.
They are pros in putting wrong wrapper as well  ;D
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 01, 2014, 09:01:09 PM
They are pros in putting wrong wrapper as well  ;D

Well in that case...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: oreo on December 01, 2014, 10:41:25 PM
Usually all SSR mags fall off when anything chages

I ended up having to SDC, lost my upgrade (no seats on the new flight in BF) and my meal request, forgot to call in after making the SDC so when I called in the morning they said it was too late for a meal request.
 
Fortunately my SDC gave me a long layover in EWR so I had some good food before the flight, plus leftovers.

Anyone know who UA uses out of GRU?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: oreo on December 03, 2014, 10:52:43 PM
Anyone know who UA uses out of GRU?

Was going to find out and report back, but then my GPU cleared and lost my meal request, and I went in online to reconfirm it but I wasn't able to call until 22 hours before the flight. Evidently that was too late.

I'm kind of amazed that I've ever gotten my meal request before.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on December 11, 2014, 04:00:14 PM
Anyone know if aircanada YYZ-TLV is any good
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on December 23, 2014, 01:31:44 AM
Anyone know if JFK-GVA on SWISS is good and what hechser does it have.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on December 23, 2014, 02:00:16 AM
Anyone know if JFK-GVA on SWISS is good and what hechser does it have.

Maybe @mileagejunkie knows?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mileagejunkie on December 23, 2014, 02:29:28 AM

Maybe @mileagejunkie knows?

I'm sorry I usually take a pill and pass out before the meal. Last I recall eating was a first class meal and I asked to clean up after fish, that part was fine.
If it's coach then you're always better picking up a sandwich from your local market.
On the way back, the meals are slightly better, though they used to be much better.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EliteMavin on December 27, 2014, 08:55:44 PM
AA Business class JFK-Cancun, evening flight seems to have dinner. But the only choices are some chicken or ravioli but no kosher. I called AA and was told that that route/flight does not have a kosher option...Is that the case? Is there anything to do to arrange the Ksml?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 02:21:37 AM
Which KSML does United serve out of LHR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 28, 2014, 06:00:02 AM
Which KSML does United serve out of LHR?
In economy I've only received Hermolis (Kedassia).
Although I don't think I've flown out of London on United since they (almost?) went into chapter 11 and canceled their LON-NYC flight.
(It restarted when they merged with Continental who flew EWR-LHR)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EliteMavin on December 28, 2014, 09:20:22 AM
AA Business class JFK-Cancun, evening flight seems to have dinner. But the only choices are some chicken or ravioli but no kosher. I called AA and was told that that route/flight does not have a kosher option...Is that the case? Is there anything to do to arrange the Ksml?
bump...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on December 28, 2014, 09:23:04 AM
bump...
just order from Carlos & Cabby's, the food from there is much better anyways
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2014, 09:54:48 AM
just order from Carlos & Cabby's, the food from there is much better anyways
Seriously don't understand people who actually care about the KSML.
Especially ex-NYC when you can BYOK from 500 different places!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 28, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
Seriously don't understand people who actually care about the KSML.
Especially ex-NYC when you can BYOK from 500 different places!
For those of us flying in the back of the bus in cattle class, we sometimes prefer a heated meal. Although I personally wouldn't say that Borensteins hot meal is better then a cold pastrami wrap.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 10:01:02 AM
Seriously don't understand people who actually care about the KSML.
Especially ex-NYC when you can BYOK from 500 different places!
How about backpackers who can't pack along food for a week or two with three different flights? Not everyone travels with 10 suitcases. Also, what's wrong with Hermolis for example, I would even pay for Hermolis ksml rather than BYOK
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on December 28, 2014, 10:10:53 AM
Ethiad airways kosher meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2014, 10:13:19 AM
For those of us flying in the back of the bus in cattle class, we sometimes prefer a heated meal. Although I personally wouldn't say that Borensteins hot meal is better then a cold pastrami wrap.
Even in coach they can heat a meal if you're polite.
Regardless, a bagel with cream cheese will be 100x better than hot mystery meat KSML.

How about backpackers who can't pack along food for a week or two with three different flights? Not everyone travels with 10 suitcases. Also, what's wrong with Hermolis for example, I would even pay for Hermolis ksml rather than BYOK
Hence the ex-NYC.

Ethiad airways kosher meals?
Yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 28, 2014, 10:19:26 AM


Even in coach they can heat a meal if you're polite.
Regardless, a bagel with cream cheese will be 100x better than hot mystery meat KSML.

I'll agree with both of you that Hermolis is of the finest in the skies. Personally I've gone for almost a week on Merkos Shlichus without any hot food but some people prefer something mysterious and got over a bagel and lox.

I didn't know that you can get your meal heated in coach (I'm sure it's a big YMMV, but it's worth a try), I'll have to try that next time.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2014, 10:29:23 AM
I'm sure it's a big YMMV, but it's worth a try), I'll have to try that next time.
It's all timing.
Ask in middle of when they're busy and you don't have a chance.

Odds are improved when you're with kids, etc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 28, 2014, 11:00:02 AM



Hence the ex-NYC.


+1 agree with you on this one

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2014, 11:06:32 AM
AA Business class JFK-Cancun, evening flight seems to have dinner. But the only choices are some chicken or ravioli but no kosher. I called AA and was told that that route/flight does not have a kosher option...Is that the case? Is there anything to do to arrange the Ksml?

AA KSML availability:

-JFK-LAX in J or F.
-JFK-SFO in J or F.
-MIA-LAX in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2014, 11:09:31 AM
UA KSML availability:

-JFK-SFO in J
-JFK-LAX in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2014, 11:37:06 AM
Can't find Delta's policies.
Anyone know them?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 11:42:09 AM
Didn't UA announce a while back that they will stop the special meals on the PS routes?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
Didn't UA announce a while back that they will stop the special meals on the PS routes?
No.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EliteMavin on December 28, 2014, 07:00:34 PM
AA KSML availability:

-JFK-LAX in J or F.
-JFK-SFO in J or F.
-MIA-LAX in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.
Thanks.
FTR, I'm not all that concerned about the meal, and will bring better goods, regardless.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 29, 2014, 07:38:53 AM
Just a note: PVG-HKG on Dragonair in coach got Hermolis. Was definitely welcomed after those UA regal meals.

Now what does UA serve HKG-ORD in J?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yid on January 06, 2015, 02:00:59 PM
Have a flight for someone tomoro morning  first from jfk to london any way to still get a kosher meal or will it have to be pomegranate?l?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on January 06, 2015, 02:11:34 PM
Have a flight for someone tomoro morning  first from jfk to london any way to still get a kosher meal or will it have to be pomegranate?l?

Usually needs more than 24 hours in advance. But still get Pomegranate.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on January 06, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
what does QF serve from MEL-DXB-LHR in F?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on January 06, 2015, 07:19:59 PM
DL KSML in J was not BAD. the appetizer was some smoked salmon then some kind of steak with potatoes then some chocolate moose which was good.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on January 14, 2015, 07:45:55 AM
Interesting. I got served the Hermolis J KMSL's in The Wing, yet Hermolis F KSML's on board.
F KSML was excellent.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 14, 2015, 08:44:54 PM
Any reports on AA JFK-LAX KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on January 14, 2015, 08:46:09 PM
Any reports on AA JFK-LAX KSML?

Paging AJK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 14, 2015, 08:48:41 PM
Any reports on AA JFK-LAX KSML?
Bornstein
Paging AJK.
Why does AJK need to be paged for this?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on January 14, 2015, 08:56:52 PM
BornsteinWhy does AJK need to be paged for this?

He recently did that route on his famous TAM trip.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 14, 2015, 08:57:24 PM
Any reports on AA JFK-LAX KSML?
Paging AJK.

Because we were able to put the award on hold more than 24 hours before departure, we were able to confirm kosher meals. 

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3951/15478275917_64d06728e8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pzLdba)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3955/15640509186_4a34db629d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pQ6Gtu)

The meal was surprisingly good. Well, except for the fact that I think I ate a shard of porcelain, or whatever the plate was made of. (While I may have been frustrated at my companion's tardiness, no, I did not break the plate; that's how it was served.)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3932/15477598809_10d06cd09b_c.jpg)

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 14, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
He recently did that route on his famous TAM trip.
AH, get it
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 14, 2015, 08:59:27 PM
Any reports on AA JFK-LAX KSML?
In F only btw. Don't think they serve in Y.
Food was horrible
Paging AJK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 14, 2015, 09:00:27 PM
In F only btw. Don't think they serve in Y.
Food was horrible

Def no meal in Y.

Food for me was quite good.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 14, 2015, 09:01:13 PM
Interesting. I got served the Hermolis J KMSL's in The Wing, yet Hermolis F KSML's on board.
F KSML was excellent.

Was it the lamb stew?

What was the difference between J and F meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 14, 2015, 09:04:04 PM
Def no meal in Y.

Food for me was quite good.
You got Breakfast.  I got dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 14, 2015, 09:14:55 PM
Are the plates strictly for KSML?
Yes.  From the caterers
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on January 14, 2015, 09:17:12 PM
Was it the lamb stew?

What was the difference between J and F meals?
It was the lamb stew. Good stuff.
J was one course meal, either chicken or salmon. Both decent.
F was served as 2 course meal, with a fish appetizer and the lamb stew and potatoes served as the main with 2 tins for each dish.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 14, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
It was the lamb stew. Good stuff.
J was one course meal, either chicken or salmon. Both decent.
F was served as 2 course meal, with a fish appetizer and the lamb stew and potatoes served as the main with 2 tins for each dish.

Yep, very good indeed.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on January 15, 2015, 01:41:23 AM
You got Breakfast.  I got dinner
AA F LAX-JFK dinner was surprisingly not bad. Don't remember if it was Borenstein, but I was served brisket and I was quite surprised in a good way. (interestingly, DW was served a completely different meal from a different caterer).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 21, 2015, 06:03:11 PM
Who does UA use in J and F LHR-NYC
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 21, 2015, 06:48:46 PM
Who does UA use in J and F LHR-NYC
isnt that hermoiles?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on January 22, 2015, 01:53:34 AM
isnt that hermoiles?
+1
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 22, 2015, 01:55:08 AM
+1

isnt that hermoiles?
Is there a big difference between J And F Hermolis KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 22, 2015, 02:27:13 AM
How is the food ex TLV LY business?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on January 22, 2015, 02:28:10 AM
How is the food ex TLV LY business?
pretty much decent
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 22, 2015, 04:54:17 AM
pretty much decent
It's the food the same as coach just with a nicer presentation?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on January 22, 2015, 05:48:46 AM
It's the food the same as coach just with a nicer presentation?
no it's better
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 25, 2015, 03:17:40 PM
who provides the food on transaero leaving moscow? whats the hechser?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 01, 2015, 08:36:44 PM
who provides the food on transaero leaving moscow? whats the hechser?
I received a meal with a hechsher of Chief Rabbi Berel Lazar of Moscow about 18 months ago. Nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 10:20:38 AM
Anyone tried EK F KSML ex-DXB?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 02, 2015, 12:41:16 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 02, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Yes.
Where do they get the food from? as there is no kosher there.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 02, 2015, 12:50:10 PM
Yes.
And?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: arch on February 03, 2015, 12:48:33 AM
Does anyone know what hechsher the KSML is on aeroflot from JFK to SVO? And from SVO to TLV?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 07, 2015, 09:22:50 PM
Ksml Shaila. My FA heated my KSML together with non KSML. Kosher?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on February 07, 2015, 09:24:11 PM
Ksml Shaila. My FA heated my KSML together with non KSML. Kosher?
If it was still double wrapped there's no problem (if it wasn't, you have a problem whether there was another meal in there or not).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 07, 2015, 09:50:01 PM
Ksml Shaila. My FA heated my KSML together with non KSML. Kosher?
And when there is no non KSML together with yyour KSML you think that they have a separate Kosher oven....?

The thing what saves us is the double wrap.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on February 07, 2015, 10:52:40 PM
Ksml Shaila. My FA heated my KSML together with non KSML. Kosher?

Huh??

U think they have separate oven for the ksmls?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on February 12, 2015, 12:40:51 AM
US PHL-TLV U class how's the food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 13, 2015, 09:40:31 AM
Restaurant quality. Bring fine China for that extra oomph.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on February 13, 2015, 10:10:16 AM
US PHL-TLV U class how's the food?

Bump - does U = Envoy?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 13, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
Do you need to specifically request a regal meal on Dl jfk - Tlv or is that the standard kosher meal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 13, 2015, 04:58:39 PM
How are they supposed to know you're Jewish and observant?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 14, 2015, 07:05:27 PM
My question is if the standard kosher meal is the regal meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on February 15, 2015, 09:41:12 PM
Bump - does U = Envoy?
US PHL-TLV U class how's the food?

Is there any difference between Envoy kosher meal and economy?

Will they heat up double wrapped food for me in Envoy?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 15, 2015, 09:59:11 PM
UA F IAD-FRA what is served?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 15, 2015, 10:19:04 PM
I got Bornstein two years ago.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 20, 2015, 05:08:55 AM
Anyone have experience with Swiss zrh-nyc in biz?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 24, 2015, 10:25:03 AM

Anyone have experience with Swiss zrh-nyc in biz?
Flew them yesterday. Food was shalom's. Edible but nothing major IMO. bottle of barkan that came with dinner was nice touch. Some sort of meat and rice for dinner along with gefilte fish appetizer. For pre landing snack, cold cut sandwich.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on February 24, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
Flew them yesterday. Food was shalom's. Edible but nothing major IMO. bottle of barkan that came with dinner was nice touch. Some sort of meat and rice for dinner along with gefilte fish appetizer. For pre landing snack, cold cut sandwich.
Thank you. which flight did you take?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shauly on February 25, 2015, 07:48:44 AM
There was some discussion on the topic further back, but nothing conclusive, so does anyone have any information on the kashrus of coke around the world? Specifically, coke from Turkey.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 25, 2015, 10:10:40 AM
There was some discussion on the topic further back, but nothing conclusive, so does anyone have any information on the kashrus of coke around the world? Specifically, coke from Turkey.
I was told its ok from the ou
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on February 25, 2015, 11:10:22 AM

Thank you. which flight did you take?
018 ZRH-EWR
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on March 08, 2015, 02:04:38 PM
Who does EK F use ex DXB?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: tjak on March 16, 2015, 08:19:27 PM
Air France from TLV, and delta from CDG, anyone know what hechsher the KSML is? 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on March 17, 2015, 10:34:03 PM
When do airlines decide to stop serving pesach meals after pesach? is it when they realize pesach is over? or when they run out of pesach meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 17, 2015, 10:37:52 PM
PEK-ORD on AA  ;D ;D :P :P
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 19, 2015, 07:36:39 AM
How does it work with the metal cutlery that come in a KSML? Why are you allowed to use them?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on March 19, 2015, 07:58:38 AM
How does it work with the metal cutlery that come in a KSML? Why are you allowed to use them?

They give you brand new ones.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 19, 2015, 08:01:29 AM
They give you brand new ones.
Interesting. I want to look closer the next time I get a meal - I feel like they have not always looked brand new.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on March 19, 2015, 08:05:15 AM
Interesting. I want to look closer the next time I get a meal - I feel like they have not always looked brand new.

On DL they came sealed inside the KSML tray.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 19, 2015, 08:44:17 AM
On DL they came sealed inside the KSML tray.
On all of mine as well, but they didn't seem shiny-new IIRC.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 19, 2015, 08:49:03 AM
They always are.
Which also gets around the toivel issue I'd assume.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 19, 2015, 09:23:28 AM
They always are.
Which also gets around the toivel issue I'd assume.
Cool. And then I guess they wash them and give them to the Non-KSML meals in the future. Perhaps the cost of new cutlery for every meal is part of the reason for the low quality meal product.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on March 19, 2015, 09:28:27 AM
Cool. And then I guess they wash them and give them to the Non-KSML meals in the future. Perhaps the cost of new cutlery for every meal is part of the reason for the low quality meal product.

I'd assume that the airline carries that cost as the cutlery goes into their inventory afterwards.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on March 19, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
They always are.
Which also gets around the toivel issue I'd assume.

I remember reading on the Zohar certificate that they toivel the new cutlery (then it gets used with the rest of the airlines dishes, the airlines must keep adding new cutlery into the pool anyways because of cutlery being lost) that is why it doesn't look spanking new, you can always see fingerprints beside for the fact that they wrap it in a fancy cloth, so somebody touches it many times.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on March 19, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
I remember reading on the Zohar certificate that they toivel the new cutlery (then it gets used with the rest of the airlines dishes, the airlines must keep adding new cutlery into the pool anyways because of cutlery being lost) that is why it doesn't look spanking new, you can always see fingerprints beside for the fact that they wrap it in a fancy cloth, so somebody touches it many times.
??? Why would they toivel new cutlery?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: luckyluck on March 19, 2015, 11:21:26 AM
If the cutlery does not belong to a Jew (stays property of the airline) there is no need to Toivel
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on March 20, 2015, 02:50:05 AM
What company does TK use ex Montreal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lybbtthl on March 24, 2015, 01:24:54 PM
regarding toiveling cutlery in KSML, it is not necessary since only cutlery that belongs to a Jew needs to be toiveled! here, the cutlery belongs to the airlines.
Cutlery can be easily kashered, so it makes sense you won't see new cutlery in KSML.
Either new cutlery is delivered straight to the KSML providers or old cutelry is sent to them and they kasher it. As chinaware can't be kashered, i'd assume it's all brand new, again toiveling isn't required as the chinaware doesn't belong to the kosher caterer, rather the airlines
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on March 24, 2015, 04:18:36 PM
I hope this is the right thread (I guess I could post in Aer Lingus, but seems more appropriate here):

I understand that the "new" J class on EI includes a pre-flight dinner in their BOS lounge (we're flying BOS-DUB).

Does anyone have experience with this, specifically whether I can expect they will obtain KSML for me? (Maybe they would get if from Andrews Catering?  or Milk Street Cafe, instead of airline KSML?  ;D)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on March 24, 2015, 08:15:19 PM
They always are.
Which also gets around the toivel issue I'd assume.

Dan I knew you just came of the USAIR flight flying businessfirst whats the deal with the ksml from phl to tlv? Do they serve something different then coach and is it any good? TIA for information!

Also I know that this is random but did you find the seat to be comfortable or its not really worth the points? (didnt see you post a TR yet!)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Mech on March 24, 2015, 08:32:41 PM

Dan I knew you just came of the USAIR flight flying businessfirst whats the deal with the ksml from phl to tlv? Do they serve something different then coach and is it any good? TIA for information!
Also I know that this is random but did you find the seat to be comfortable or its not really worth the points? (didnt see you post a TR yet!)
UA240.
What a crazy day.
Booked into J to TLV
Dan, what happened to the US flight ? Delayed ? So they routed you via EWR ?
He told us the story tonight by the DO. To make it short us air put him on ua because his cle-phi flight was delayed and was going to miss his connection to tlv.
You'll just have to wait for the TR ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on March 24, 2015, 08:34:17 PM



Thanks. Darn! I am trying to figure this out for month. Has anyone taken this flight!?!!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 24, 2015, 08:34:47 PM
His return was still on US Afaik.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Mech on March 24, 2015, 08:37:32 PM

USAIR flight flying businessfirst whats the deal with the ksml from phl to tlv?
His return was still on US Afaik.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: kangarruu on March 25, 2015, 03:55:13 AM
Thanks. Darn! I am trying to figure this out for month. Has anyone taken this flight!?!!

We just did, in J. KSML was Borenstein on the way there and Masbia on the way back. I don't have enough experience up front to make too many comparisons. I thought the seat was perfectly adequate but nothing to write home about.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on March 25, 2015, 05:42:53 AM
Jusy did TLV to PHL slept 8 out of 13 hours like a baby.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on March 25, 2015, 07:27:10 AM
Jusy did TLV to PHL slept 8 out of 13 hours like a baby.
Wish my baby slept like you
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on March 25, 2015, 07:47:19 AM

We just did, in J. KSML was Borenstein on the way there and Masbia on the way back. I don't have enough experience up front to make too many comparisons. I thought the seat was perfectly adequate but nothing to write home about.

Was the meal good or is the the same as economy? Can I rely on it or should I bring my own food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2015, 07:55:50 AM
Seat was decent, bulkhead has larger footwells as usual, dinner was fine though breakfast was weak.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on March 25, 2015, 08:26:50 AM
Does anyone know what AI serves in J from BOM to EWR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lybbtthl on April 19, 2015, 03:15:13 AM
Does anyone know what AI serves in J from BOM to EWR?

Does anyone know if they serve KSML at all on any route? I have a booking for MEL-DEL (biz) and I don't have any confirmation of the KSML request!?

On the ViewTrip/Galileo/Worldspan website, it shows the request put through but no HK (unlike the other airlines in the booking which it does show HK)
When I called AI, they said they can't guarantee till check-in, which by then it will be too late to do anything anyway.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on April 19, 2015, 07:15:20 AM
FYI, OZ serves red & white kosher wine KSML F meals.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 27, 2015, 11:20:02 PM
Who does EK F X MXP serve?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on April 28, 2015, 05:50:01 PM
Who does JAL F serve X NRT?
Title: Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
Who provides KSMLs on KE F ex ICN and SQ F ex SIN & NRT?
Title: Re: Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 12, 2015, 10:49:10 PM
KE from ICN and SQ from SIN is Hermolis.
Title: Re: Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2015, 11:01:06 PM
KE from ICN and SQ from SIN is Hermolis.
Awesome! Thanks. Ex US I guess it depends on where you're leaving from or is it also Hermolis?
Title: Re: Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 12, 2015, 11:14:30 PM
I've never had Hermolis from the US
Title: Re: Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on May 12, 2015, 11:16:21 PM
Ex US you get borenstein on SQ
Title: Re: Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
Post by: shimshieT on May 13, 2015, 01:57:48 AM
After much observation this is my first post on DDF, I hope i'm not posting in the wrong place. Thanks to all the wonderful information here I was able to accumulate and burn several hundred thousand miles this year. I will be flying CX F LAX-HKG-BKK in a month, i was wondering how the KSML would be, also if i'd be able to request Kosher wine and or Champagne on these flights... I will also be flying AC J  HND-YYZ... And in December I'll be taking QF F LAX-SYD and SQ J MEL-SIN and NH F SIN-NRT-JFK... Thanks so much guys.   
Title: Re: Re: Business and First Class Products Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 13, 2015, 09:27:35 AM
Ex US you get borenstein on SQ
Not from LAX IME.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 13, 2015, 09:41:15 AM
How is the AC J KSML X YYZ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 14, 2015, 11:05:47 AM
How is the AC J KSML X YYZ?

Better question, why do you care?

I never understood these types of questions. 90% of KSML are garbage. The other 10% include Hermolis.

You ain't getting Hermolis is AC J.

Ergo, the KSML will be garbage.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 14, 2015, 11:14:13 AM
Better question, why do you care?

I never understood these types of questions. 90% of KSML are garbage. The other 10% include Hermolis.

You ain't getting Hermolis is AC J.

Ergo, the KSML will be garbage.
Explain, did you take along your own food on the Island Hopper? If I backpack travel for a week, I'd want to partially rely on Airline food, a good warm Hermolis KSML will always be better than a week old Pita, Tuna cans and raw vegetables.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 14, 2015, 11:15:59 AM
Explain, did you take along your own food on the Island Hopper? If I backpack travel for a week, I'd want to partially rely on Airline food, a good warm Hermolis KSML will always be better than a week old Pita, Tuna cans and raw vegetables.

Actually, yes, I did take along my own food on the hopper. POM meals.

And, explain, will you not take a flight because it doesn't serve Hermolis? Or won't visit a place because the KSML is sub par?

Well, then you better stay home or  limit yourself to only flying F on Asian Airlines.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 14, 2015, 11:25:44 AM
Actually, yes, I did take along my own food on the hopper. POM meals.

And, explain, will you not take a flight because it doesn't serve Hermolis? Or won't visit a place because the KSML is sub par?

Well, then you better stay home or  limit yourself to only flying F on Asian Airlines.
No, That's not the point, I won't fly an  airline for its KSML, my complaint about KSML is in general.

If an airline serves a good KSML, I wouldn't feel the need on bringing along my own KSML from POM for example, which is a shlep, even though the POM meal is better, I'm not that spoiled.
 if i fly a longhaul flight with a terrible KSML, I definitely will have to come up with a plan

 and I'm the type of guy who'd rather rely on airline KSML than shlepping a truck load of KSML, unless I'm doing a honeymoon or something, as is the case for my BOB trip next month.

I'd easily trade flying light with only a backpack and not having to worry about packing, shlepping, freezing KSML from one country to another.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shimshieT on May 14, 2015, 12:46:48 PM
Forget about the food for a minute. Which we've already established is ****. Has anyone had a success story pre requesting kosher wine or Champagne from CX or QF... Or others too...?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 14, 2015, 05:32:03 PM
Does the First lounge and/or the Private room in the KriSilver lounge offer KSMLs like The Wing does in HKG?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 14, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
No, That's not the point, I won't fly an  airline for its KSML, my complaint about KSML is in general.

If an airline serves a good KSML, I wouldn't feel the need on bringing along my own KSML from POM for example, which is a shlep, even though the POM meal is better, I'm not that spoiled.
 if i fly a longhaul flight with a terrible KSML, I definitely will have to come up with a plan

 and I'm the type of guy who'd rather rely on airline KSML than shlepping a truck load of KSML, unless I'm doing a honeymoon or something, as is the case for my BOB trip next month.

I'd easily trade flying light with only a backpack and not having to worry about packing, shlepping, freezing KSML from one country to another.

And I'm saying the vast majority of KSML is crap. So, unless you're gaunrateed Hermolis, or meals of its ilk, you either bring, fly Asian F, or stay home.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on May 15, 2015, 12:23:30 AM
Does the First lounge and/or the Private room in the KriSilver lounge offer KSMLs like The Wing does in HKG?

Private room does (so they told me a few years ago) but they need 24 hours notice. Not sure where to call.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 15, 2015, 12:34:06 AM
Private room does (so they told me a few years ago) but they need 24 hours notice. Not sure where to call.
Thanks! Did you actually order food there?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on May 15, 2015, 03:35:24 AM
Thanks! Did you actually order food there?
No, it was too late as I only asked when I got there.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 15, 2015, 12:55:03 PM
Are KSMLs offered on CX Y, HKG-SIN?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2015, 12:59:19 PM
I'm sure.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 15, 2015, 01:14:39 PM
I'm sure.
Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 15, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
I'm going to bring my own food, but what can i expect UA J EWR-HNL on a morning departure?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2015, 01:25:26 PM
i'm going to bring my own food, but what can i expect UA J EWR-HNL on a morning departure?
AJ and I got this:

(http://www.knowledgebrain.com/NothingImages/Nothing_512_512.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 15, 2015, 01:26:37 PM
I guess i shouldn't be too shocked with that.

Will bring some stuff and hope they don't care to heat it up.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
I guess i shouldn't be too shocked with that.

Will bring some stuff and hope they don't care to heat it up.
They told us "officially we don't heat up your food" but because we don't have the KSML...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 15, 2015, 01:33:17 PM
They told us "officially we don't heat up your food" but because we don't have the KSML...
I'll bring some hot and cold options to tide us over. Should do the trick.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on May 15, 2015, 01:45:04 PM
I did get KSML but was stinky rolls had moldy already
and they had no issue with warming up my pre packed food
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 15, 2015, 01:45:51 PM
I'm going to bring my own food, but what can i expect UA J EWR-HNL on a morning departure?

...for them to have forgotten your KSML.

ETA: Didn't see above posts. LOL.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: kalman on May 20, 2015, 12:15:52 AM
An interesting tidbit:

I booked  two businessFirst tickets from NYC to Vancouver using United Plan B, less than 24 hours before the flight. I made sure to request KSML. After we boarded the plane we over heard the flight attendants talking about the fact that they saw that they were supposed to have two KSMLs but for some reason they didn't have it (big surprise :)). After hearing them discuss that they didn't know what to do, because this would mean that we would have nothing to eat for 6+ hours (!), thry came to us and told us what was going on and that it would take 45 minutes for a meal to be brought, and would we want them to hold up the flight. They actually offerd to delay the flight for 45 minutes so we could get our meal. When we said that we wouldn't feel right doing that to all the other passengers and that we would manage, they were extremely grateful.
When the flight attendants came around to take meal orders from the other passengers they came to us also and asked what we were going to have. Surprised, I repeated that we couldn't have anything. She looked at us in complete shock and said, "You mean that you're really not going to eat anything for 6 hours?". (They were completely unable to relate to such a concept). She then offered us unlimited snacks from everything that they offered for sale.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2015, 12:18:54 AM
1. There is no BusinessFirst from NYC to YVR.
2. There are no KSMLs offered from NYC to YVR.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 20, 2015, 12:29:32 AM
Alol
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on May 20, 2015, 12:35:10 AM
1. There is no BusinessFirst from NYC to YVR.
2. There are no KSMLs offered from NYC to YVR.
So just a made up story? Or wrong destination?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 20, 2015, 12:47:08 AM
So just a made up story? Or wrong destination?
No, was just a dream
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Einstein on May 20, 2015, 01:00:29 AM
1. There is no BusinessFirst from NYC to YVR.
2. There are no KSMLs offered from NYC to YVR.
HAHAHA lol
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Einstein on May 20, 2015, 01:01:35 AM
But on this topic....I booked an the New EI J class...anybody know how the kosher meal is on that

my routing is BOS-DUB ;D
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on May 20, 2015, 01:18:11 AM
Does the First lounge and/or the Private room in the KriSilver lounge offer KSMLs like The Wing does in HKG?
The private room in SIN does. I called SQ and they were able to put in the request and confirm it for me. IIRC, they took my request and called me back a few days later to confirm it

ETA- this was about a year ago
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on May 20, 2015, 07:25:23 AM
So just a made up story? Or wrong destination?
Story is impossible to be ture, UA can't be so nice willingly hold up a flight ( actually maybe this part yes) but FAs being nice? Impossible...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on May 21, 2015, 12:52:34 AM
Story is impossible to be ture, UA can't be so nice willingly hold up a flight ( actually maybe this part yes) but FAs being nice? Impossible...

I was on AA F, and when I asked for them to heat up my BYOK, they said that actually they were waiting for our our KSML entrees to arrive, and they would happily trade heating up our food for having to wait for the Kosher Catering to arrive.

The trays and the cutlery was there, just no hot entree.

Needless to say that worked out perfectly for us.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 21, 2015, 01:26:33 AM
Got KSML's on UA15 EWR-HNL. Regal meals, that were not too bad at all.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2015, 08:44:41 AM
Bet they weren't as good as Pom+10k miles ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 21, 2015, 11:14:48 AM
Bet they weren't as good as Pom+10k miles ;)
No, they most definitely were not.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mochada on May 21, 2015, 02:39:31 PM
Story is impossible to be ture, UA can't be so nice willingly hold up a flight ( actually maybe this part yes) but FAs being nice? Impossible...

I've heard stories, many times, of FAs offering for the flight to be held for a dietary meal. It helps when you're DL Diamond or UA GS flying first class international. 
One specific person I know was offered points instead of a meal and he gladly accepted.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 21, 2015, 02:51:48 PM
But on this topic....I booked an the New EI J class...anybody know how the kosher meal is on that

my routing is BOS-DUB ;D
-----------------
I booked this route, too, and I was interested in the KSML and even more interested in the "Departure Lounge", about which the website makes a whole megillah.  So, I contacted their pre-flight folks by email:

Dear Mr. Zow,

Thank you for contacting Aer Lingus North America Pre-Flight Care.

The Pre-Flight dining is currently not available at the lounge in Boston.  The vendor that we use is Bernstein Caterer.

Kind Regards,

Patti
--------------------------

I had never heard of Bernstein Caterer, but when  I googled, I figured they must mean Borenstein.
What should we do about the lack of departure meal at Boston?  Any compensation? It would be great if they could get Andrews or Milk Street for us....


Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mochada on May 21, 2015, 03:01:07 PM

I had never heard of Bernstein Caterer, but when  I googled, I figured they must mean Borenstein.
What should we do about the lack of departure meal at Boston?  Any compensation? It would be great if they could get Andrews or Milk Street for us....

Sad, sad, very sad.  Are they required to offer you a Pre-Departure meal? Compare this to Hyatt Diamond, are they required to buy you a kosher meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 21, 2015, 03:39:04 PM
Sad, sad, very sad.  Are they required to offer you a Pre-Departure meal?

+1

Sheesh, this way of thinking never fails to astound me.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: kalman on May 21, 2015, 11:34:47 PM
1. There is no BusinessFirst from NYC to YVR.
2. There are no KSMLs offered from NYC to YVR.
Story is impossible to be ture, UA can't be so nice willingly hold up a flight ( actually maybe this part yes) but FAs being nice? Impossible...
Dan - I'm surprised at you. You are dead wrong, as there most certainly is BusinessFirst on UA from NYC (EWR) to YVR. Aside from the fact that I flew it, you can check it right now.

And as for KSMLs, well...   I'm afraid you're wrong about that as well. Again, aside from the fact that the story really did happen (contrary to popular belief over here), there was another frum couple flying BusinessFirst as well and they DID get their KSML.
Btw, this happened in July 2013
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:42:07 PM
Wrong and wrong again, see screenshot.
There was never BusinessFirst EWR-YVR.  Business is an entirely different product than BusinessFirst.
Though there may have been KSMLs 2 years ago.  I don't recall exactly when they got rid of those.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on May 21, 2015, 11:43:42 PM
Dan - I'm surprised at you. You are dead wrong, as there most certainly is BusinessFirst on UA from NYC (EWR) to YVR. Aside from the fact that I flew it, you can check it right now.

And as for KSMLs, well...   I'm afraid you're wrong about that as well. Again, aside from the fact that the story really did happen (contrary to popular belief over here), there was another frum couple flying BusinessFirst as well and they DID get their KSML.
Btw, this happened in July 2013

Kalman, if you can explain to us how your "businessFirst" looked like we can all know if we're talking about the same thing.

We're you able to sleep like a bed?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 21, 2015, 11:47:26 PM
Wrong and wrong again, see screenshot.
There was never BusinessFirst EWR-YVR.  Business is an entirely different product than BusinessFirst.
Though there may have been KSMLs 2 years ago.  I don't recall exactly when they got rid of those.

It seems to be impossible to get ANY kosher meal from EWR. I'm flying in First to LAX, and they didn't have the option.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:49:29 PM
It seems to be impossible to get ANY kosher meal from EWR. I'm flying in First to LAX, and they didn't have the option.
If you don't cross an ocean you're not getting a KSML on UA from EWR.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 21, 2015, 11:51:28 PM
If you don't cross an ocean you're not getting a KSML on UA from EWR.

Too bad it's not like the good ole days, when they served meals even in economy to Florida. I'm wondering if there are any special buttons to press which would yield me one. Fortunately, they do have Freshko sandwiches in the terminal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:51:54 PM
DL serves KSMLs on all flights with meals.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 21, 2015, 11:52:32 PM
If you don't cross an ocean you're not getting a KSML on UA from EWR.
And BTW you don't get lounge access when flying P.S. J out of EWR. Don't ask me why.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:53:03 PM
And BTW you don't get lounge access when flying P.S. J out of EWR. Don't ask me why.
Because there is no PS service or J class from EWR-LAX/SFO.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 21, 2015, 11:53:52 PM
DL serves KSMLs on all flights with meals.
Given the direction in which UA is headed, I may very well switch to them. Their credit cards are not strong enough, though. Gotta love the club card on UA.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 21, 2015, 11:54:04 PM
Because there is no PS service from EWR.
Hmmmm, what do you define as PS service?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 21, 2015, 11:55:13 PM
Hmmmm, what do you define as PS service?
I don't define it, they do.
"Our p.s.® Premium Service flights offer an international product for an exceptional transcontinental travel experience between New York JFK and Los Angeles or San Francisco."
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/premiumservices.aspx
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 21, 2015, 11:55:49 PM
Hmmmm, what do you define as PS service?

Old 757s with a BusinessFirst cabin with lie-flat seats. They fly between JFK-LAX/SFO.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on May 22, 2015, 12:00:12 AM
The thing is that you could get a BF seat sometimes out of EWR, but it's there "by mistake" not guaranteed. PS flights are guaranteed 757 lie flat BF seats.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 22, 2015, 12:01:30 AM
The thing is that you could get a BF seat sometimes out of EWR, but it's there "by mistake" not guaranteed. PS flights are guaranteed 757 lie flat BF seats.
Even if you get the seat, it's still not BF service. You get domestic service out of EWR with no KSMLs.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 22, 2015, 12:51:38 AM

Sad, sad, very sad.  Are they required to offer you a Pre-Departure meal? Compare this to Hyatt Diamond, are they required to buy you a kosher meal?
The point is not that they are required to provide the pre-departure meals. Rather, the point is that their marketing materials falsely advertise that they are available when, in fact, they are not.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Einstein on May 22, 2015, 12:59:42 AM
DL serves KSMLs on all flights with meals.
except for my flight from MEX-JFK the KSML was an Apple, we had a good laugh though
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 22, 2015, 06:50:53 AM
The point is not that they are required to provide the pre-departure meals. Rather, the point is that their marketing materials falsely advertise that they are available when, in fact, they are not.

Their marketing materials promise a KSML as a pre-departure benefit?

Link?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 22, 2015, 10:56:40 AM
Their marketing materials promise a KSML as a pre-departure benefit?

Link?
No, I didn't say KSML. I said they promise a pre-departure meal. See the link:
http://www.aerlingus.com/new-business-class/indexna.html

(Scroll down to the bottom, where they say:
"Pre-Dine Service

On flights departing from New York JFK and Boston, we are pleased to announce the option to dine before you fly. Eat your fill before you fly, and then all you have to do is to sleep the night away in your comfy bed. You will arrive relaxed and ready to go with a full nights sleep.")

My e-mail exchange with them, posted above a few days ago, indicated that they do not have pre-departure meals at all, KSML or otherwise.  Doesn't that seem like false advertising?

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on May 22, 2015, 01:43:37 PM
Flying CX in F, booked with AA, who do I contact about Kosher food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 22, 2015, 02:17:20 PM
Flying CX in F, booked with AA, who do I contact about Kosher food?

CX. But I believe AA can also put in the request for you.

You flying From or two HKG?

Also call the CX lounge in HKG to get kosher food in the lounge.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on May 22, 2015, 02:35:16 PM
CX. But I believe AA can also put in the request for you.

You flying From or two HKG?

Also call the CX lounge in HKG to get kosher food in the lounge.
Thanks. I'm flying JFK-YVR no HKG for me, not yet, hopefully I'll work my way there one day.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on May 22, 2015, 02:52:48 PM
Thanks. I'm flying JFK-YVR no HKG for me, not yet, hopefully I'll work my way there one day.

Best to do it through CX. IIRC I did it online with the CX locator number. Btw, the food ex JFK is regular Regal economy food, so nothing to look out for. xYVR you get a local caterer, which looks EXTREMELY unappetizing, I think it's because the way they package it...I didn't even touch it.

To sum it up: BYOKF.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on May 22, 2015, 03:12:40 PM
Best to do it through CX. IIRC I did it online with the CX locator number. Btw, the food ex JFK is regular Regal economy food, so nothing to look out for. xYVR you get a local caterer, which looks EXTREMELY unappetizing, I think it's because the way they package it...I didn't even touch it.

To sum it up: BYOKF.
How do I get my CX locator #? All I have my AA locator #.

I'm only flying OW so the xYVR meal isnt a concern for me.
I've seen mixed reviews about the meal xJFK, but to be honest I don't know the last time I took a flight with a meal, so I don't know what I'd compare it to.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 22, 2015, 04:09:35 PM
Call AA for locator.

I found the food ex-JFK KSML to be one of the best I've ever had.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 22, 2015, 04:25:39 PM
Call AA for locator.

I found the food ex-JFK KSML to be one of the best I've ever had.
By coincidence.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on May 22, 2015, 04:29:54 PM
Call AA for locator.

I found the food ex-JFK KSML to be one of the best I've ever had.

I know I read your wife's TR but IIRC I've also seen people strongly disagree with you. (About the food, not what you thought of it)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 22, 2015, 07:34:43 PM
Well,  they *do* vary the dish served...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: kalman on May 26, 2015, 12:33:08 AM
Wrong and wrong again, see screenshot.
There was never BusinessFirst EWR-YVR.  Business is an entirely different product than BusinessFirst.
Though there may have been KSMLs 2 years ago.  I don't recall exactly when they got rid of those.


When I try to book an award ticket i get a choice of Economy or First/BusinessFirst
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 31, 2015, 11:31:00 PM
How is cx j ex-jfk? Cx F ex-hkg?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on June 01, 2015, 12:16:23 AM
How is cx j ex-jfk?
I found the food ex-JFK KSML to be one of the best I've ever had.
Cx F ex-hkg?
Not sure about the KSML on the flight itself but...
Also call the CX lounge in HKG to get kosher food in the lounge.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on June 01, 2015, 01:17:33 AM
Who does EF X MXP serve?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on June 01, 2015, 05:01:50 PM
Anyone has experienced KSML on Turkish Airlines? kix-ist?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on June 01, 2015, 05:06:04 PM
UA LAX-JFK in J offers what kinda food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on June 01, 2015, 09:41:53 PM
LH F Ex FRA how is the food? And updates with the Hechsher?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 02, 2015, 12:10:08 AM
LH F Ex FRA how is the food? And updates with the Hechsher?
Dont remember the company name, but it was definitely way behind regal and borenstein! Ksml in the lounge is from the same place I believe.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on June 02, 2015, 12:13:37 AM
LH F Ex FRA how is the food? And updates with the Hechsher?

It's the same Zohar for years. The hechsher is the FRA kehilla, which unfortunately had this meat scandal. I leider ate many meals from Zohar :-(

Btw, any way to get LH F for cheap? Does the AC r/t reschedule later trick still work? Any other tricks? I used to be a frequent guest on LH F but now @110K it's a waste :-(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 02, 2015, 12:13:55 AM
As for the kashrus, I spoke to a rov about a year ago about it, and he told me he tried going into the kitchen to check it out but they wouldnt let him in, which makes him very wary about it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 02, 2015, 12:15:04 AM
It's the same Zohar for years. The hechsher is the FRA kehilla, which unfortunately had this meat scandal. I leider ate many meals from Zohar :-(

Btw, any way to get LH F for cheap? Does the AC r/t reschedule later trick still work? Any other tricks? I used to be a frequent guest on LH F but now @110K it's a waste :-(
M&M
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on June 02, 2015, 12:15:56 AM
M&M

The MOST expensive way to redeem :-(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 02, 2015, 12:17:09 AM
It's the same Zohar for years. The hechsher is the FRA kehilla, which unfortunately had this meat scandal. I leider ate many meals from Zohar :-"

I guess that explains why they wouldnt let him in....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on June 02, 2015, 12:33:04 AM
The MOST expensive way to redeem :-(
I just used that for my dad. Was no other way. But when its available for partners I guess AC is the cheapest option. No recent experience with the AC trick.

I read somewhere a while back that Zohar switched the Hashgachah.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: keepsmiling123 on June 02, 2015, 10:11:48 PM
Booked a flight in Z for LAX-JFK, are there KSML available (says dinner included in my ticket)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 02, 2015, 10:18:49 PM
Booked a flight in Z for LAX-JFK, are there KSML available (says dinner included in my ticket)
Should be a meal. Make sure to call and request it in advance.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 03, 2015, 12:04:54 AM
There's a meal. And it's been good, except a few days after pesach when it was still chametz free. Yuck.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on June 03, 2015, 06:19:39 AM

There's a meal. And it's been good, except a few days after pesach when it was still chametz free. Yuck.
But better that, than a chametzdik meal during Pesach.
Title: KSML from AMM on RJ?
Post by: gold on June 10, 2015, 05:49:30 PM
What KSML is served from AMM in C class?
Title: Re: KSML from AMM on RJ?
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2015, 05:59:52 PM
No need to start a new thread.

Post here - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24510
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 11, 2015, 09:21:21 AM
What KSML is served from AMM in C class?
rabbanut
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: keepsmiling123 on June 12, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Is there KSML LGA-DFW on AA in Z
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 12, 2015, 03:44:25 PM
Is there KSML LGA-DFW on AA in Z

No.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on June 12, 2015, 05:20:45 PM
I started a thread specifically on POM meals, with ordering info as well.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 15, 2015, 07:36:09 AM
Does Southwest have the capability to warm up a meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: E R K on June 15, 2015, 08:04:47 AM
Does Southwest have the capability to warm up a meal?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=220.msg1173445#msg1173445
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on June 15, 2015, 08:13:58 AM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=220.msg1173445#msg1173445
Thank you!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on June 15, 2015, 12:12:29 PM
Airline: BA
Class: Club Europe
Route: LHR-PRG
Caterer: Hermolis
Flight date: March 2015
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Not pictured: Hot bagel and crossaint
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on June 15, 2015, 01:45:54 PM
Surprisingly, El Al had very decent meals on my recent flight. It seemed almost the same as the "regular Kosher" meals with the addition of tons of plastic.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: casualchurner on June 16, 2015, 09:10:13 PM
Gonna be flying UA in 2 weeks EWR-YVR in J. Any chance of calling UA and getting KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on June 17, 2015, 05:37:51 AM
If you don't cross an ocean you're not getting a KSML on UA from EWR.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on June 24, 2015, 12:04:53 PM
Does AA offer ksml on domestic biz (5 hr flight )?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2015, 12:06:57 PM
Does AA offer ksml on domestic biz (5 hr flight )?
WIYF
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on June 24, 2015, 12:08:58 PM
WIYF
Thanks, I didn't see it in wiki...
The flight is MIA-LAS on the 738 bird
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 24, 2015, 12:16:01 PM
Thanks, I didn't see it in wiki...
The flight is MIA-LAS on the 738 bird
If you don't see it then you have your answer.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on June 24, 2015, 12:16:54 PM
If you don't see it then you have your answer.
Figured, thanks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on June 24, 2015, 12:17:51 PM

I started a thread specifically on POM meals, with ordering info as well.

Link please? TIA
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on June 25, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
Link please? TIA

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=52783.0
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on June 29, 2015, 12:20:40 PM
Does anyone have experience with midtown Manhattan restaurants that double-wrap? POM was too out of the way for me (or I simply procrastinated) and I'm flying out of EWR in Domestic First (no KSML).

Thanks in advance.

Sam
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 29, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
BYOT(infoil wrap/pan)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 29, 2015, 12:23:50 PM
Le Marais has good sandwiches
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on June 29, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
BYOT(infoil wrap/pan)

I know you're not a practicing rabbi, but is there a particular way to wrap them?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on June 29, 2015, 12:49:59 PM
Le Marais has good sandwiches

Thanks! Any particulars?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jewban on June 30, 2015, 08:40:00 PM
Anyone tried the KSML offerings on B6 Mint?  Have an upcoming flight, usually stick to vegetarian options since KSMLs sourced stateside are generally awfully bad, but in their case they post the menu and it actually sounds like fairly decent stuff:

http://www2.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/mint/menu/special/MintMenu_Special_Kosher.pdf
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 01, 2015, 12:08:40 AM
Anyone tried the KSML offerings on B6 Mint?  Have an upcoming flight, usually stick to vegetarian options since KSMLs sourced stateside are generally awfully bad, but in their case they post the menu and it actually sounds like fairly decent stuff:

http://www2.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/mint/menu/special/MintMenu_Special_Kosher.pdf
Very cool, looking forward to some reviews!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2015, 12:58:22 AM
Anyone tried the KSML offerings on B6 Mint?  Have an upcoming flight, usually stick to vegetarian options since KSMLs sourced stateside are generally awfully bad, but in their case they post the menu and it actually sounds like fairly decent stuff:

http://www2.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/mint/menu/special/MintMenu_Special_Kosher.pdf
Wow. I must say they look appealing. I wonder where they're sourced.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Copernicus on July 01, 2015, 03:01:48 AM
While I'm not Jewish, after reading this thread and doing some additional follow-up research on Koscher meals, I am considering ordering Koscher meals on my flights from now on.  Not only because of the strict preparation methods, but they look far more appetizing and edible than what I'm normally served in coach.  Does this make sense?  Are Koscher meals served on airlines typically better than what is generally served in coach?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 01, 2015, 05:23:32 AM


While I'm not Jewish, after reading this thread and doing some additional follow-up research on Koscher meals, I am considering ordering Koscher meals on my flights from now on.  ,  they look far more appetizing and edible than what I'm normally served in coach. 
Umm. Where did you do this research?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Copernicus on July 01, 2015, 08:59:30 AM
Umm. Where did you do this research?

A bunch of random sites, wikis, youtube, etc.  There is a youtube video that I wish I had the link on hand for right now, but it was for JewishTV or something like that.  In any case the presenter was basically selling Koscher meals as "first class meals for coach".

I'm guessing by your response that you don't agree with that statement?

EDIT:  I found the link, and it's on the JewishNewsOne channel actually.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=zllfP2G7tBo
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 01, 2015, 09:26:29 AM
Can't hurt, they should still have the regular food available for you
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on July 01, 2015, 09:34:25 AM
While I'm not Jewish, after reading this thread and doing some additional follow-up research on Koscher meals, I am considering ordering Koscher meals on my flights from now on.  Not only because of the strict preparation methods, but they look far more appetizing and edible than what I'm normally served in coach.  Does this make sense?  Are Koscher meals served on airlines typically better than what is generally served in coach?
Hmm if you like gefilta fish and lox maybe, but definitely not out of NY.

At least you have that option
Can't hurt, they should still have the regular food available for you
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2015, 10:13:55 AM
While I'm not Jewish, after reading this thread and doing some additional follow-up research on Koscher meals, I am considering ordering Koscher meals on my flights from now on.  Not only because of the strict preparation methods, but they look far more appetizing and edible than what I'm normally served in coach.  Does this make sense?  Are Koscher meals served on airlines typically better than what is generally served in coach?

There is no doubt (at least to me) that Kosher meals are prepared in a manner far stricter than your run-of-the-mill meal, at least when it comes to supervision of cleanliness and ingredients.

I'm afraid to say, however, that (at least to me) the non-Kosher meals look far more appetizing than their Kosher counterparts actually taste. So I wouldn't get my hopes up on that account.

Though do let us know your thoughts if you end up taking the plunge.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 01, 2015, 12:18:28 PM
A bunch of random sites, wikis, youtube, etc.  There is a youtube video that I wish I had the link on hand for right now, but it was for JewishTV or something like that.  In any case the presenter was basically selling Koscher meals as "first class meals for coach".

I'm guessing by your response that you don't agree with that statement?

EDIT:  I found the link, and it's on the JewishNewsOne channel actually.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=zllfP2G7tBo
The video is deceptive and inaccurate. The video shows the nonkosher meal as a simple small package and the kosher one as a full multi course meal when in truth it always seems to be the opposite. Also if that was truly a standard kosher meal the FA would likely have brought it packaged and not opened up and displayed everything.
Well i encourage you to definitely try it and report back it seems the grass is always greener...
The video probably had an agenda to convince nonreligious Jews to eat kosher
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jewban on July 01, 2015, 01:25:41 PM
On one hand I don't think it's for me or anyone else to judge someone else's decision to request a SPML from an airline (KSML or otherwise) but I do worry if it gets abused on a large scale cost conscious airlines will continue to limit their availability.  Some here may recall that until mid-2011 UA allowed SPMLs on all domestic flights even mid-con flights with UDU (comp upgrades).  Several posters boasted on the FT "Let's Eat" thread that they ordered and sampled the meals when no legitimate need existed.  Again I'm not saying people should/shouldn't do it but those of us with legitimate needs who depend on this service don't want to see it pared back further due to misuse.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 01, 2015, 01:26:12 PM
There is no doubt (at least to me) that Kosher meals are prepared in a manner far stricter than your run-of-the-mill meal, at least when it comes to supervision of cleanliness and ingredients.

Commercial kosher kitchens run under the same health and safety guidelines as non-kosher facilities. Which is to say, how clean any individual plant is beyond what the government requires, depends on the qualities demanded by its specific mangers. Any mashgiach can tell you that in some places the Kosher kitchen is cleaner and more hygienic, and sometimes it is not. The kosher certification has no bearing on that.

From people that have personally inspected airline KSML facilities in South Africa, they were exactly the same as their non-kosher counterparts. Both were pristine facilities, with the highest levels of hygiene and cleanliness - far superior to other commercial facilities. When the meals were outsourced to caterers which did not cater solely to airlines, the standards dropped to whatever they were in that specific facility. Which leads me to think that airlines have stricter standards for their meals than standard health and safety regulations, (at least in South Africa) but KSMLs which are produced by third part caterers are not necessarily subject to those rules, and thus not as clean as their non-kosher counterparts.

That's about cleanliness. As for ingredients, governments are far more lenient about not listing items with minimal percentages or just trace amounts (AFAIK), which cannot fly with Kosher meals.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 01, 2015, 01:28:39 PM
On one hand I don't think it's for me or anyone else to judge someone else's decision to request a SPML from an airline (KSML or otherwise) but I do worry if it gets abused on a large scale cost conscious airlines will continue to limit their availability.  Some here may recall that until mid-2011 UA allowed SPMLs on all domestic flights even mid-con flights with UDU (comp upgrades).  Several posters boasted on the FT "Let's Eat" thread that they ordered and sampled the meals when no legitimate need existed.  Again I'm not saying people should/shouldn't do it but those of us with legitimate needs who depend on this service don't want to see it pared back further due to misuse.

I always order a KSML even if I know I won't be eating it (unreliable hechsher, or other reasons). I want to do my part to show the demand for the product. No demand = no service. The more people that order KSMLs, the better, IMHO.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 01, 2015, 01:29:21 PM
On one hand I don't think it's for me or anyone else to judge someone else's decision to request a SPML from an airline (KSML or otherwise) but I do worry if it gets abused on a large scale cost conscious airlines will continue to limit their availability.  Some here may recall that until mid-2011 UA allowed SPMLs on all domestic flights even mid-con flights with UDU (comp upgrades).  Several posters boasted on the FT "Let's Eat" thread that they ordered and sampled the meals when no legitimate need existed.  Again I'm not saying people should/shouldn't do it but those of us with legitimate needs who depend on this service don't want to see it pared back further due to misuse.
or look at it from the other way, if there is more demand they may possibly step up their game or availability
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on July 01, 2015, 01:58:23 PM

EDIT:  I found the link, and it's on the JewishNewsOne channel actually.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=zllfP2G7tBo

Thats an interesting video, but...

(at least to me) the non-Kosher meals look far more appetizing than their Kosher counterparts actually taste. So I wouldn't get my hopes up on that account.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Copernicus on July 01, 2015, 02:08:37 PM
I always order a KSML even if I know I won't be eating it

You bring your own meals to the plane then?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 01, 2015, 02:13:15 PM
You bring your own meals to the plane then?

Lots of folks do. The KSML is just an excuse to get compensation when something goes wrong.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 01, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
You bring your own meals to the plane then?

Absolutely. Firstly, most of us have been inculcated by our Jewish mothers to never leave home without sandwiches. Crossing the street? Wait! here's a tuna sandwich. But on long hauls in coach especially, 99% of the people on this forum are bringing their own food. Even if they are flying on an airline that will provide a good meal, there is a very likely chance the meal doesn't make it on the plane.

Even on short hauls, the possibility of delays and hiccups usually means you'll either be carrying food or know there are nearby restaurants who can deliver (via Uber or the like) in a pinch.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 01, 2015, 02:20:11 PM
The KSML is just an excuse to get compensation when something goes wrong.

Please tell me this is a joke.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 01, 2015, 02:41:31 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13574.msg1165992#msg1165992
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2015, 09:03:07 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13574.msg1165992#msg1165992

...except for the fact that my motivation for ordering it was not, as you suggest, to complain in the event I didn't receive it.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2015, 09:04:16 PM
Commercial kosher kitchens run under the same health and safety guidelines as non-kosher facilities. Which is to say, how clean any individual plant is beyond what the government requires, depends on the qualities demanded by its specific mangers. Any mashgiach can tell you that in some places the Kosher kitchen is cleaner and more hygienic, and sometimes it is not. The kosher certification has no bearing on that.

From people that have personally inspected airline KSML facilities in South Africa, they were exactly the same as their non-kosher counterparts. Both were pristine facilities, with the highest levels of hygiene and cleanliness - far superior to other commercial facilities. When the meals were outsourced to caterers which did not cater solely to airlines, the standards dropped to whatever they were in that specific facility. Which leads me to think that airlines have stricter standards for their meals than standard health and safety regulations, (at least in South Africa) but KSMLs which are produced by third part caterers are not necessarily subject to those rules, and thus not as clean as their non-kosher counterparts.

That's about cleanliness. As for ingredients, governments are far more lenient about not listing items with minimal percentages or just trace amounts (AFAIK), which cannot fly with Kosher meals.

So you're saying I could have saved you three paragraphs if I left out the word cleanliness? ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehuda57 on July 01, 2015, 09:06:35 PM
So you're saying I could have saved you three paragraphs if I left out the word cleanliness? ;)
You wouldn't dare deny me the opportunity to get on a soapbox, would you?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2015, 09:07:37 PM
You wouldn't dare deny me the opportunity to get on a soapbox, would you?
Look who you're talking to... Of course not!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 01, 2015, 11:29:02 PM
...except for the fact that my motivation for ordering it was not, as you suggest, to complain in the event I didn't receive it.

What would you have done if the KSML had indeed come aboard?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 01, 2015, 11:50:05 PM
What would you have done if the KSML had indeed come aboard?

Eaten it?

What do you do with your food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 01, 2015, 11:55:26 PM

Eaten it?

What do you do with your food?

Play. Or start a food fight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 01, 2015, 11:58:23 PM
Play. Or start a food fight.

With the POM meal while eating the KSML.  :o
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2015, 12:00:58 AM
Play. Or start a food fight.

The sheer volume of off-topic, and sometimes childish, posts in this forum is mind-boggling. No offense :)

Can you imagine a DDF where posters actually stayed on topic? (rhetorical)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 02, 2015, 12:02:10 AM

The sheer volume of off-topic, and sometimes childish, posts in this forum is mind-boggling. No offense :)

Can you imagine a DDF where posters actually stayed on topic? (rhetorical)

Why thank you.

Nope doesn't happen on here.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2015, 12:24:37 AM
Why thank you.

Nope doesn't happen on here.
You can't take all the credit, good sir.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on July 02, 2015, 12:28:00 AM
The sheer volume of off-topic, and sometimes childish, posts in this forum is mind-boggling. No offense :)

Can you imagine a DDF where posters actually stayed on topic? (rhetorical)
People here have Attention Deficit Hey! DOUGHNUTS!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on July 02, 2015, 10:35:29 AM
Can i order Kids KSML on LH F and LX F?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 02, 2015, 10:45:46 AM
Can i order Kids KSML on LH F and LX F?
I'm assuming own seat. If yes, you should be able to get a meal for them. For an infant, i know at least KE will only offer an infant meal and no KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on July 02, 2015, 11:20:31 AM
Can i order Kids KSML on LH F and LX F?

I'm assuming own seat. If yes, you should be able to get a meal for them. For an infant, i know at least KE will only offer an infant meal and no KSML.
He is asking about about a "kids" meal, not a meal for a kid.

I think only LY offers different KSML, like kids and fish meals
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 02, 2015, 11:32:17 AM
He is asking about about a "kids" meal, not a meal for a kid.

I think only LY offers different KSML, like kids and fish meals

I know it's "in" to hate El Al, but I haven't had such a nice KSML for a while. They really try hard to serve everyone the same thing, although their fresh bread smells mouthwatering.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2015, 12:06:49 PM
I know it's "in" to hate El Al, but I haven't had such a nice KSML for a while. They really try hard to serve everyone the same thing, although their fresh bread smells mouthwatering.
defending el al... the horror...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 02, 2015, 12:07:57 PM
defending el al... the horror...

They do have other issues, such as weighing carryons.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on July 02, 2015, 04:13:37 PM

They do have other issues, such as weighing carryons.
That's not at all limited to elal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 02, 2015, 04:21:01 PM
That's not at all limited to elal

I know, but why would they do that if no other carrier from North America does it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on July 03, 2015, 08:03:47 AM

I know, but why would they do that if no other carrier from North America does it?

Because they can
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on July 03, 2015, 08:56:09 AM
I know, but why would they do that if no other carrier from North America does it?
No other North American carrier or carrier leaving North America? cause I've definitely had it leaving JFK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 03, 2015, 12:04:36 PM
No other North American carrier or carrier leaving North America? cause I've definitely had it leaving JFK.

North American carrier, Aka their direct competition.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on July 07, 2015, 05:42:48 PM
what's about A3 from TLV & from ATH? which hechsher?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on July 08, 2015, 12:11:14 AM
what's about A3 from TLV & from ATH? which hechsher?

Stogel or WAM. Stogel has good hechsher but inedible. WAM has bad hechser and inedible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 08, 2015, 06:16:51 AM
Stogel or WAM. Stogel has good hechsher but inedible. WAM has bad hechser and inedible.
i once asked on here about WAM. are you familiar with the hechsher?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on July 08, 2015, 07:26:21 AM
from where is WAM? which hechsher?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 08, 2015, 11:47:16 AM
from where is WAM? which hechsher?

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/422/19526383865_b156735e42_b.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on July 08, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
Who serves Iberia flights NYC-MAD-TLV ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on July 08, 2015, 06:35:23 PM
Anyone know how many meals are served JFK-AUH-HKG and what type?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on July 08, 2015, 09:06:23 PM
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/422/19526383865_b156735e42_b.jpg)

My friend got wam IB MAD > CCS he says the food was very good.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 09, 2015, 02:25:33 AM
My friend got wam IB MAD > CCS he says the food was very good.
the question was regarding the kosher certification
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Einstein on July 12, 2015, 05:39:51 PM
the question was regarding the kosher certification
according to the UA site, ATH-VCE, you are served a Hot meal, How do I know which meal it will be?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on July 16, 2015, 02:40:21 PM
I just got from TLV & from ATH, stogel on both flights.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Copernicus on July 19, 2015, 02:46:25 PM
i flew PVG-FRA on Lufthansa today and had requested a kosher meal online.  My booking clearly reflected that the request had been made however the flight attendant said that he saw no record of that so didn't have a meal for me onboard.  I just checked my booking online again and see that my request has disappeared.  I now understand why people are double and triple confirming their special meal requests!

Let's see if they have my meal on my return flight tomorrow...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on July 19, 2015, 03:37:37 PM
i flew PVG-FRA on Lufthansa today and had requested a kosher meal online.  My booking clearly reflected that the request had been made however the flight attendant said that he saw no record of that so didn't have a meal for me onboard.  I just checked my booking online again and see that my request has disappeared.  I now understand why people are double and triple confirming their special meal requests!

Let's see if they have my meal on my return flight tomorrow...
Well, the KSML ex-FRA is by mistake not bad so don't get exited. Try Stogal once etc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on July 19, 2015, 03:40:24 PM
False. It's Sohar exFRA.
Huh? Reread my post please.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on July 19, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
Huh? Reread my post please.

You're quick, read it fast, was thinking you say it will be Stogel, deleted post, but you still got it :-(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on July 19, 2015, 03:54:57 PM
You're quick, read it fast, was thinking you say it will be Stogel, deleted post, but you still got it :-(
How can you read it fast when there is a PERIOD in there - for a reason...  :P
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Einstein on July 19, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
according to the UA site, ATH-VCE, you are served a Hot meal, How do I know which meal it will be?
Bump

+ anybody have any idea how the KSML on Aer Lingus is?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on July 19, 2015, 10:12:03 PM
As far as I know, most Bushmills is kosher.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on July 20, 2015, 11:40:27 AM
Anyone know how many meals are served JFK-AUH-HKG and what type?

BUMP
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: westman812 on July 20, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Anyone know if possible to get KSML on Virgin America FC JFK-LAX route? When I called, the Rep directed me to the website where it mentions Kosher meals in a blog post but not the actual menu option.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on July 20, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Anyone had KSML from KIX /Osaka lately? Mishpacha getting nervous :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Copernicus on July 21, 2015, 01:03:33 AM
Airline: LH
Class: Y
Route: FRA-PVG
Caterer: Sohar
Flight date: 07/20/15.
Meal in pics: Dinner

The salmon/olive/beet starter was excellent.  The main was fine but I only ate the fish as the pasta itself was very bland.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Copernicus on July 21, 2015, 01:13:03 AM
Airline: LH
Class: Y
Route: FRA-PVG
Caterer: Sohar
Flight date: 07/20/15.
Meal in pics: Breakfast

The pasta with fish was a bit strange to have for breakfast but it was quite good.  The portion size looks small since half of it ended up in my lap before i took the photo.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Miracle on July 25, 2015, 05:45:34 PM
A bunch of random sites, wikis, youtube, etc.  There is a youtube video that I wish I had the link on hand for right now, but it was for JewishTV or something like that.  In any case the presenter was basically selling Koscher meals as "first class meals for coach".

I'm guessing by your response that you don't agree with that statement?

EDIT:  I found the link, and it's on the JewishNewsOne channel actually.  www.youtube.com/watch?v=zllfP2G7tBo
Great. in this video it shows ppl wanting to order kosher meals on planes and it comes with a 'stamp' or 'sticket' saying it's verified by the rabbi. WHO'S THIS RABBI?  How do I know it's a legit rabbi??  I am flying 3 different planes, klm, delta, and alitalia. I have no idea i I can eat the kosher meals.  Anyone one orthodox on this thread can help me get an answer?  Ive never flown them before.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: urh917 on July 27, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
I have a business flight on AA from Calgary Canada to Dallas and Dallas to Philadelphia. They said they are serving breakfast on first and lunch on second flight. They said they cannot provide kosher meals. I asked for a food voucher and they refused. They were not helpful.
I will be leaving 6 am and have a 2 hour stop over in Dallas. I wont be in Philadelphia till 6 pm.
Does anyone have advice for me how to deal with AA? and is it possible for me to get a food voucher? Is it possible to get meals when they "claim" they cannot?
Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on July 28, 2015, 09:29:23 PM
I have a business flight on AA from Calgary Canada to Dallas and Dallas to Philadelphia. They said they are serving breakfast on first and lunch on second flight. They said they cannot provide kosher meals. I asked for a food voucher and they refused. They were not helpful.
I will be leaving 6 am and have a 2 hour stop over in Dallas. I wont be in Philadelphia till 6 pm.
Does anyone have advice for me how to deal with AA? and is it possible for me to get a food voucher? Is it possible to get meals when they "claim" they cannot?
Thanks

I've never had luck with getting a KSML when it wasn't officially offered. The best I was able to do was to bring my own food on board, and when the FA would offer me a ham and mozzarella sandwich, politely ask for a set of disposable utensils instead.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 28, 2015, 09:33:10 PM

I have a business flight on AA from Calgary Canada to Dallas and Dallas to Philadelphia. They said they are serving breakfast on first and lunch on second flight. They said they cannot provide kosher meals. I asked for a food voucher and they refused. They were not helpful.
I will be leaving 6 am and have a 2 hour stop over in Dallas. I wont be in Philadelphia till 6 pm.
Does anyone have advice for me how to deal with AA? and is it possible for me to get a food voucher? Is it possible to get meals when they "claim" they cannot?
Thanks

Why should they be required to give you vouchers or anything when kosher meals are not provided in the first place?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: leaf on July 30, 2015, 08:50:06 AM
How far in advance is it necessary to order kosher for F in CX ex-JFK?
Also, is there a difference between Kosher meals in J & F on CX ex-JFK?
(For someone currently booked J and trying to get F on same or another flight, might need to wait till last-minute for F to open up... Trying to figure out best way to "guaranty" a KSML FWIW)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on July 30, 2015, 10:15:56 AM
How far in advance is it necessary to order kosher for F in CX ex-JFK?
Also, is there a difference between Kosher meals in J & F on CX ex-JFK?
(For someone currently booked J and trying to get F on same or another flight, might need to wait till last-minute for F to open up... Trying to figure out best way to "guaranty" a KSML FWIW)
You usually need 24hrs but they would give you your J class food if you upgrade to F. and the food is the same just set up nicer.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on July 30, 2015, 10:41:03 AM
the food is the same just set up nicer.

I always wondered why can't they make better food for people in J or the very least when you fly in F?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on July 30, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
I always wondered why can't they make better food for people in J or the very least when you fly in F?

Can't, or don't care to?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jewban on July 30, 2015, 12:34:28 PM
I have a business flight on AA from Calgary Canada to Dallas and Dallas to Philadelphia. They said they are serving breakfast on first and lunch on second flight. They said they cannot provide kosher meals. I asked for a food voucher and they refused. They were not helpful.
I will be leaving 6 am and have a 2 hour stop over in Dallas. I wont be in Philadelphia till 6 pm.
Does anyone have advice for me how to deal with AA? and is it possible for me to get a food voucher? Is it possible to get meals when they "claim" they cannot?
Thanks

Those aren't special meal markets for AA, KSML or otherwise.  AA its longhaul intl, JFK-LAX/SFO and MIA-LAX, and a few ~5 hour Latam markets.  Canada, for the past 10-12 years hasn't been part of SPMLs, although until last year I believe YYZ-LAX might have been (as it catered to AA elevated transcon standard) but certainly not now.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on August 06, 2015, 03:14:10 PM
Did they stop providing KSML on United HNL-EWR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 06, 2015, 03:16:04 PM
Did they stop providing KSML on United HNL-EWR?

We didn't get this past January in first and I heard reports from others that they didn't get as well.  I do not know if that was a mistake (happened around the same time) or if they discontinued.  I'd recommend bringing your own food just in case.  We were stuck with a few bananas and chips and received measly $50 vouchers in return. 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2015, 03:16:19 PM
Did they stop providing KSML on United HNL-EWR?
The policy hasn't changed since the merger. KSMLs are only offered in J.
More often than not they forget them on the HI flights even in J.  Which works for me as that means a 10K millage refund or $200 voucher per passenger :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 06, 2015, 03:18:20 PM
The policy hasn't changed since the merger. KSMLs are only offered in J.
More often than not they forget them on the HI flights even in J.  Which works for me as that means a 10K millage refund or $200 voucher per passenger :)

Nice that you got $200 vouchers pp, but even after back and forth they would not offer anything more than $50 pp.   >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 06, 2015, 03:35:06 PM
I definitely plan on BYOK just in case + better food + 1 meal for 11 hours probably won't be enough food.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on August 06, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
Booked in J and just says snack. We will bring POM meals either way.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2015, 03:42:48 PM
Booked in J and just says snack. We will bring POM meals either way.
PUTPAC
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: KidOOO on August 06, 2015, 10:00:04 PM
Just got around to posting this, was actually one of my best meals in the sky.

Airline: US
Class: J
Route: TLV-PHL
Caterer: Hamasbia (I think)
Flight date: 05/21/2015
Meal in pics: Dinner

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 08, 2015, 10:34:49 PM
Just got around to posting this, was actually one of my best meals in the sky.

Airline: US
Class: J
Route: TLV-PHL
Caterer: Hamasbia (I think)
Flight date: 05/21/2015
Meal in pics: Dinner

It looks like Hamasbia packaging. but I've never seen those foods before by them.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hatikvah on August 11, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
I am sure this is discussed upthread but I honestly do not have the time to look. I am traveling NYC to syd tomorrow .Ua economy. I want to bring a pomegranate kosher meal for the plane ride .Will I one. Be able to actually have it heated up? And two if I can have it heated up do I need to get it in microwave or oven wrapping? Tia ddf  :D
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on August 11, 2015, 12:09:48 PM
I am sure this is discussed upthread but I honestly do not have the time to look. I am traveling NYC to syd tomorrow .Ua economy. I want to bring a pomegranate kosher meal for the plane ride .Will I one. Be able to actually have it heated up? And two if I can have it heated up do I need to get it in microwave or oven wrapping? Tia ddf  :D
1) See people's experiences here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46852.0).
2) Oven
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shoobi on August 12, 2015, 02:40:33 PM
I'm flying UA J JFK-LAX tomorrow 6am... Is it too late to order KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: clear thinker on August 12, 2015, 03:05:33 PM
I'm flying UA J JFK-LAX tomorrow 6am... Is it too late to order KSML?
Supposed to be 24 hours before.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sruly on August 12, 2015, 03:10:25 PM
I'm flying UA J JFK-LAX tomorrow 6am... Is it too late to order KSML?
Call and ask them to add it even though its no guaranteed within 24 hrs.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: clear thinker on August 12, 2015, 03:11:46 PM
I'm flying UA J JFK-LAX tomorrow 6am... Is it too late to order KSML?
I had that meal 2 weeks ago nothing to cry about....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shoobi on August 12, 2015, 03:11:54 PM
Supposed to be 24 hours before.

so if KSML doesn't make it onboard can I get compensation?  :D
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: clear thinker on August 12, 2015, 03:17:14 PM
so if KSML doesn't make it onboard can I get compensation?  :D
I was given a special claim letter when my ksml didn't make it on board.
The stewardess explained that she understands because she also only eats kosher....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on August 12, 2015, 08:36:39 PM
If the KSML doesn't make it on the plane, do the stewardesses usually offer some compensation on the spot?
Flew DL last year and right away she offered me a $100 voucher or 5K points
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 12, 2015, 09:51:44 PM
If the KSML doesn't make it on the plane, do the stewardesses usually offer some compensation on the spot?
Flew DL last year and right away she offered me a $100 voucher or 5K points

My compensation on UA was a banana and chips.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 12, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
My compensation on UA was a banana and chips.
Yet UA offered me $200 for a broken headphone jack. Go figure.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lyla on August 12, 2015, 11:38:11 PM
My compensation on UA was a banana and chips.
How many pounds of bananas could you buy for $50 per person?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on August 13, 2015, 10:03:37 AM
How many pounds of bananas could you buy for $50 per person?

They later gave me a 50 voucher per person and I can only surmise that the low voucher amount was based upon the price paid for my ticket.   :)
Title: KSML on Aeroflot ?
Post by: gold on August 20, 2015, 01:05:34 PM
What hechsher has the KSML from TLV to SVO?

Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rcarentals on August 31, 2015, 02:29:44 AM
Yet UA offered me $200 for a broken headphone jack. Go figure.

On Qf a broken headphone jack from JFK-LAX got me a upgrade to business class LAX-SYD - which diverted to BNE to refuel, and then off to SYD.

The diversion got me 8 QF lounge passes, and $200 QF credit - a decent few yrs ago... when compensation actually existed...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 31, 2015, 08:40:58 AM
On Qf a broken headphone jack from JFK-LAX got me a upgrade to business class LAX-SYD - which diverted to BNE to refuel, and then off to SYD.

The diversion got me 8 QF lounge passes, and $200 QF credit - a decent few yrs ago... when compensation actually existed...
Wow, that's awesome!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: oisher on September 01, 2015, 06:48:59 PM
United offers 'Dinner' on some US-Brazil flights, but the Ticketing for Award Travel says "NO SPECIAL MEALS OFFERED" even though International flights to/from Brazil specifically DO offer them (including KSML).

Does United provide KSML meals on US/Brazil (award) travel, (specifically UA 30/31)? 
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on September 02, 2015, 01:17:04 PM
United offers 'Dinner' on some US-Brazil flights, but the Ticketing for Award Travel says "NO SPECIAL MEALS OFFERED" even though International flights to/from Brazil specifically DO offer them (including KSML).

Does United provide KSML meals on US/Brazil (award) travel, (specifically UA 30/31)?

Nope.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2015, 01:18:06 PM
Nope.
-1
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on September 02, 2015, 05:14:57 PM
Nope.
Huh? You sound to me just like the dumb airline rep I spoke to the other day who when I asked for KSML, she said "well its an award ticket, you have to understand on FREE tickets we don't offer KSML; sorry"

Well I knew all along that airline reps like to make stuff up based on what they think makes sense (unfortunately)

However, it seems like we have some of those in the guessing game here as well....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on September 02, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
Huh? You sound to me just like the dumb airline rep I spoke to the other day who when I asked for KSML, she said "well its an award ticket, you have to understand on FREE tickets we don't offer KSML; sorry"

Well I knew all along that airline reps like to make stuff up based on what they think makes sense (unfortunately)

However, it seems like we have some of those in the guessing game here as well....

Thank you for your kind words. My reasoning had nothing to do with it being an award ticket, rather, I assumed (incorrectly) that the United website was accurate regarding the meals, based on other posts and personal experiences.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on September 02, 2015, 09:08:01 PM
Thank you for your kind words. My reasoning had nothing to do with it being an award ticket, rather, I assumed (incorrectly) that the United website was accurate regarding the meals, based on other posts and personal experiences.
It was not a personal offense. Rather that people should learn not to answer just whatever their mind brings up. Of course when you have 100% confirmed info you are welcome to just post away, but when not at least say that YOU think so but you're not sure
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: katherine123 on September 02, 2015, 10:48:23 PM
I booked a flight from Jfk to TLV with Delta and ordered kosher meals under special request. Are those glatt kosher meals or do I need to do something else to get glatt?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on September 02, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
I booked a flight from Jfk to TLV with Delta and ordered kosher meals under special request. Are those glatt kosher meals or do I need to do something else to get glatt?
JFK to TLV you'll get glatt
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: katherine123 on September 02, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
JFK to TLV you'll get glatt

And TLV back to JFK too? I don't need to call and confirm glatt kosher?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 04, 2015, 12:53:20 AM
True story: Someone I know just sent me a picture, of what he called a great KSML, one of the best he has had... It was Stogel! With an expiration date of June 05, 2017 :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 04, 2015, 02:55:21 AM
True story: Someone I know just sent me a picture, of what he called a great KSML, one of the best he has had... It was Stogel! With an expiration date of June 05, 2017 :)

ive had some good stogels
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yammer on September 04, 2015, 03:51:48 AM
I had a story many years ago, midway of my JFK-TLV flight they announced that there is a strike in Israel and we will be diverted and landed in Hungary. To go straight to the point elal served non kosher food and the OU removed their certification for ELAL. ( not from the meals )
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 04, 2015, 04:25:57 AM
how long ago? i wasnt aware ou ever certified elal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 04, 2015, 04:41:44 AM
how long ago? i wasnt aware ou ever certified elal
Neither was I, but a quick search pulled up this http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/71110
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yammer on September 04, 2015, 05:14:05 AM
Neither was I, but a quick search pulled up this http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/71110
Here you go

http://www.jta.org/2004/12/16/archive/after-kosher-practice-questioned-o-u-limits-certification-of-el-al-food

Quotes the incident.

"Also, on a flight grounded this fall in Budapest while Israel’s Histadrut labor union was on strike, “the entire plane was served nonkosher cheese sandwiches,” Steinberg said. “There was no announcement that it was not kosher.”
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 08, 2015, 07:01:35 PM
Was reading today on the JetBlue mint product. They seem to have by far the best offer for KSML than the other airlines in the transcon market. You are offered chicken, beef and fish, along with kosher wine, 2 desserts and they have lots of kosher unlimited snacks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on September 08, 2015, 07:05:44 PM
Was reading today on the JetBlue mint product. They seem to have by far the best offer for KSML than the other airlines in the transcon market. You are offered chicken, beef and fish, along with kosher wine, 2 desserts and they have lots of kosher unlimited snacks.

Unfortunately, booking that with miles is very unrealistic. I haven't paid for a flight in years.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 08, 2015, 07:10:07 PM
Unfortunately, booking that with miles is very unrealistic. I haven't paid for a flight in years.

The JetBlue Amex should get you more than halfway, to a one way mint class ticket.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YMW on September 08, 2015, 08:34:03 PM
Unfortunately, booking that with miles is very unrealistic. I haven't paid for a flight in years.
I actually booked the mint with miles last year (LAX-JFK) when there was a double promotion, but unfortunately I didn't get the KSML, because I missed the deadline of '48 hours' required.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 18, 2015, 12:54:16 PM
I booked EY more than 24HR but less than 48hrs.

By meals the KSML is listed as "KSML (Unconfirmed )"

Is that an indication that i may not get a KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 19, 2015, 01:48:36 AM
I booked EY more than 24HR but less than 48hrs.

By meals the KSML is listed as "KSML (Unconfirmed )"

Is that an indication that i may not get a KSML?
Won't it make a difference where you're leaving from?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on October 19, 2015, 05:26:50 AM
Is there a way to see on United website if KSML is confirmed? I went to travelers information and added it but don't see anywhere that it says confirmed?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 20, 2015, 08:12:04 AM
I booked EY more than 24HR but less than 48hrs.

By meals the KSML is listed as "KSML (Unconfirmed )"

Is that an indication that i may not get a KSML?
what ended up happening?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 20, 2015, 08:33:01 AM
what ended up happening?
I got the KSML
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 20, 2015, 10:07:39 AM
yeah, same here
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on October 20, 2015, 10:26:14 AM
Booked a flight on etihad and didn't get a kosher meal. the stewardess said it was never put in, even tho i have confirmed that it was. other people on my flight had the same issue. I emailed them and they blamed it on priceline.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 20, 2015, 10:36:45 AM
Booked a flight on etihad and didn't get a kosher meal. the stewardess said it was never put in, even tho i have confirmed that it was. other people on my flight had the same issue. I emailed them and they blamed it on priceline.
Did you confirm with Priceline or EY.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on October 20, 2015, 11:13:42 AM
Did you confirm with Priceline or EY.

EY
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ari_r on October 21, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
Flying UA Premium Service (J) EWR -> SFO on Monday (post the move from JFK).   They're saying there's no way to order a KSML on the flights -- did this change with the move from JFK?  The special meals page on the UA site (https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/dining/special/default.aspx) still says a KSML is avail on PS.

And if it is still available, does anybody know of a way to get them to add for me?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on October 21, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
Did you try the callback line?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2015, 07:01:40 PM
It should be available, keep HUCAing.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ari_r on October 21, 2015, 08:46:45 PM
Thanks, that seemed to work.  I'll post next week to let people know what actually happened
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: eis517 on October 31, 2015, 10:33:19 PM
Anyone know what the kosher meals are like on Air Canada to and from Tel Aviv?

Also, will AC heat up a meal if we bring it on the plane?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YMW on November 01, 2015, 01:25:47 AM
Anyone know what the kosher meals are like on Air Canada to and from Tel Aviv?
Served by 'Gate Gourmet', Hechsher: MK-Mehadrin (Rabbi Weiss & Rabbi Gruber).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on November 01, 2015, 12:32:11 PM
Any KSML on alaska air?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: thaber on November 03, 2015, 12:23:36 AM
Does it make sense that there is no option for a KSML flying ZN from BOS-LAX?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 03, 2015, 12:31:07 AM
Does it make sense that there is no option for a KSML flying ZN from BOS-LAX?
What is ZN? Your new airrine?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: thaber on November 03, 2015, 01:00:15 AM
What is ZN? Your new airrine?
Non elite business on United. which I would have expected you to know :). Unless you were being snarky in which case haha
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 03, 2015, 06:53:13 AM
Does it make sense that there is no option for a KSML flying ZN from BOS-LAX?

Correct.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 03, 2015, 08:20:08 AM
Generally people say Y, J, or F to refer to a cabin unless the fare class is relevant.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: thaber on November 03, 2015, 09:29:55 AM
Generally people say Y, J, or F to refer to a cabin unless the fare class is relevant.
Understood.  The reason I mentioned the fare class is the small chance that that is what was triggering the lack of meal choice.  I know that's ridiculous, but I'm still having a hard time believing that there is no kosher option on a transcontinental United business class flight that is offering a meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 03, 2015, 09:37:07 AM
Onboard service never has anything to do with fare class.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 03, 2015, 10:08:32 AM
Non elite business on United. which I would have expected you to know :). Unless you were being snarky in which case haha
As Dan said. And ever after your explanation you should still add Im flying UA on a ZN class. The way you wrote it reflected that your flying on ZN airlines. Anyhow, Im not so familiar with KSML with UA but I think they only serve KSML on PS flights.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: thaber on November 03, 2015, 11:35:24 AM
As Dan said. And ever after your explanation you should still add Im flying UA on a ZN class. The way you wrote it reflected that your flying on ZN airlines. Anyhow, Im not so familiar with KSML with UA but I think they only serve KSML on PS flights.
thank you.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: m65 on November 04, 2015, 03:17:53 AM
flying aeroflot tlv-jfk-tlv with stop in svo. anyone know the status of the kosher meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on November 04, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
flying aeroflot tlv-jfk-tlv with stop in svo. anyone know the status of the kosher meals?
Regular kosher meals from jfk to svo, From svo to tlv its with Rabbi Lazar hescher, and back the same tlv-svo Badaz meal, and from svo to Jfk same with Rabbi Lazar hescher.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: m65 on November 05, 2015, 12:06:06 AM
Regular kosher meals from jfk to svo, From svo to tlv its with Rabbi Lazar hescher, and back the same tlv-svo Badaz meal, and from svo to Jfk same with Rabbi Lazar hescher.
thanx for the reply. i didnt get what u mean by "Regular kosher meals from jfk to svo"
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: an613 on November 17, 2015, 06:49:22 AM
Who do I call to order KSML for CX ticket booked with AA (JFK-YVR-HKG-BKK if it matters)? What about booked with Alaska (BKK-HKG-EWR)?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 17, 2015, 08:09:31 AM
Who do I call to order KSML for CX ticket booked with AA (JFK-YVR-HKG-BKK if it matters)? What about booked with Alaska (BKK-HKG-EWR)?
You always call the operating carrier, in your case CX.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: an613 on November 17, 2015, 08:35:55 AM

You always call the operating carrier, in your case CX.

Cool thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on November 18, 2015, 05:26:56 AM
Anyone know if VS serves Hermolis ex-LHR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on November 18, 2015, 10:16:46 AM
Anyone know if VS serves Hermolis ex-LHR?
Yes they do.

I have yet to see an airline who doesn't serve hermolis ex-lhr.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on November 18, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
Yes they do.

I have yet to see an airline who doesn't serve hermolis ex-lhr.
United. They don't wanna give their customers ideas...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on November 18, 2015, 02:03:42 PM
Yes they do.

I have yet to see an airline who doesn't serve hermolis ex-lhr.
Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on December 08, 2015, 07:28:17 AM
Airline: BA
Class: J
Route: LHR-OSL
Meal: Breakfast
Caterer: Hermolis
Flight date: Dec-03-2015

Bagel and danish served hot!
Sausage is parev
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Pics Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on December 08, 2015, 07:30:48 AM
Airline: BA
Class: J
Route: OSL-LHR
Meal: Morning-Snack
Caterer: Hermolis
Flight date: Nov-25-2015

If you like cold Fish....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on December 08, 2015, 07:37:13 AM
Airline: BA
Class: J
Route: LHR-OSL
Meal: Breakfast
Caterer: Hermolis
Flight date: Dec-03-2015

Bagel and danish served hot!
Sausage is parev

The warm bread they serve on the European flights is great. I don't know why they don't serve it on long-haul. I've had crossaints with the bread as well.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on December 08, 2015, 07:40:02 AM
I've had crossaints with the bread as well.

Had that with breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dealvr on December 08, 2015, 12:06:13 PM
Airline: AA
Class: J
Route: LHR-JFK
Meal: Lunch
Caterer: Hermolis
Flight date: Dec 7, 15
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on December 08, 2015, 12:09:08 PM
Airline: AA
Class: J
Route: LHR-JFK
Meal: Lunch
Caterer: Hermolis
Flight date: Dec 7, 15
What about the other way? JFK-LHR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dealvr on December 08, 2015, 12:18:30 PM
What about the other way? JFK-LHR?
Didn't take pics.. was a night flight and I slept though breakfast.  Dinner was decent, some sort of chicken.
Return flight was great though.  The smoked salmon appetizer pictured below was delicious.  Steak was very decent and the wine was a nice touch.  They also had chanuka gelt which was a nice festive idea.   
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on December 08, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
Didn't take pics.. was a night flight and I slept though breakfast.  Dinner was decent, some sort of chicken.
Return flight was great though.  The smoked salmon appetizer pictured below was delicious.  Steak was very decent and the wine was a nice touch.  They also had chanuka gelt which was a nice festive idea.   
thanks, I am getting hungry
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 09, 2015, 10:58:52 AM
Was anyone successful in getting BA to provide Hermolis KSML for JFK-LHR in F?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 10, 2015, 05:41:54 PM
Was anyone successful in getting BA to provide Hermolis KSML for JFK-LHR in F?
BUMP
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on December 15, 2015, 03:42:05 AM
Does Tam have kosher food from jfk to yyz in j ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on December 15, 2015, 09:16:20 AM
No meal served on the flight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on December 15, 2015, 09:57:37 AM
Anyone that can comment on KSML ex-DOH/ex-BKK (both QR)? Is it still being done by Rabbi Kantor out of BKK? Any good?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 15, 2015, 10:04:27 AM
Anyone that can comment on KSML ex-DOH/ex-BKK (both QR)? Is it still being done by Rabbi Kantor out of BKK? Any good?
Ex-BKK is Rabbi Kantor and was relatively very good
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on December 15, 2015, 10:12:24 AM
Ex-BKK is Rabbi Kantor and was relatively very good

Thanks. I read that he also does the ex-DOH meals that come in from BKK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jfkeze on December 20, 2015, 06:42:02 AM
JFK-BCN AA Business Class
November 2015
My seatmate was flying to TLV via BCN, seems like some decent deals in paid Business Class ex TLV on that flight.
Here is a photo of a "chicken"? dish.

Full trip report (non-kosher food) here:
http://www.premiumcabindeals.com/2015/12/american-jfk-to-bcn.html (http://www.premiumcabindeals.com/2015/12/american-jfk-to-bcn.html)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on December 21, 2015, 02:23:59 AM
Will hamasbia cater the BA first GLATT meals from TLV when the first cabin returns soon?
Any memories?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yitz on December 24, 2015, 08:53:09 AM
Looking for info on KSML on Iberia jfk - madrid - tlv. Who is the caterer and what hechsher. Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shauly on December 28, 2015, 10:48:09 AM
Anyone had the Kosher meal on RJ J? (DXB-AMM-TLV)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on December 28, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
Anyone had the Kosher meal on RJ J? (DXB-AMM-TLV)

Yes ...its not glatt....made in TLV on all their flights.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shauly on December 28, 2015, 03:21:57 PM
Yes ...its not glatt....made in TLV on all their flights.

Thanks! Is it safe to assume they are Rabbanut?

Irrelevant if the hechsher isn't good, but was it decent food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 28, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
Yes ...its not glatt....made in TLV on all their flights.
maybe theres a way to request fish or a vegetarian (dairy) Kosher meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on December 28, 2015, 03:43:50 PM
Thanks! Is it safe to assume they are Rabbanut?

Irrelevant if the hechsher isn't good, but was it decent food?
So your saying The Rabbanut isnt a good hechsher?? :P
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shauly on December 28, 2015, 04:08:04 PM
So your saying The Rabbanut isnt a good hechsher?? :P

You are free to eat whatever you like without fear of judgement by me.  ;)

Anyway, I'm not the person flying.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 28, 2015, 04:37:16 PM
So your saying The Rabbanut isnt a good hechsher??
Correct
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on January 06, 2016, 03:04:55 AM
Hello all

Anyone know what company meals korean air serves in First class jfk iCN SYD?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 06, 2016, 07:43:03 PM
Hello all

Anyone know what company meals korean air serves in First class jfk iCN SYD?
Borenstein
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on January 06, 2016, 08:05:10 PM
Thank you! Is it always? It is good? When was the last time you flew it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 06, 2016, 08:06:58 PM
Thank you! Is it always? It is good? When was the last time you flew it?
12/23 was pretty ok for airline food. Though TBH from NYC its so easy to get good food nearby, that id just bring something with me.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on January 13, 2016, 01:36:01 PM
Is there any chance to get fresh bornstien food from PHL AA Business class?
According to the chef, AA only orders fresh food from JFK (although i doubt the food we had JFK-LHR was fresh) Also, it appears they have two hechshers OU and Velova or something like that.
He told me to contact AA direct and try to request fresh meal with a more stringent hechsher. However, he did mention he doubts I'll be successful...
does anyone have experience with this?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 13, 2016, 01:53:10 PM
Isn't volova regal catering?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2016, 09:47:50 PM
Who is Rabbi Kuber?

 "I fought with the airline long and hard to have them arrange for me to check the kitchen, but they demurred."

I don't think the airline has any kitchen here. Its the kitchen of Sohar in FRA...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Chief Rabbi of New York on January 13, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
I'm going la to phl first class with American airlines on the red eye.
do they have kosher meals for that flight?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on January 13, 2016, 11:39:46 PM


I'm going la to phl first class with American airlines on the red eye.
do they have kosher meals for that flight?

No
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 14, 2016, 12:43:53 AM


According to the chef, AA only orders fresh food from JFK (although i doubt the food we had JFK-LHR was fresh)

Fresh by AA means 3 months old
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: keepsmiling123 on January 14, 2016, 11:00:30 AM
Flew DL in DeltaONE JFK-FCO last week and meal was by Bornstein. The meal was not good.
On the AZ leg to TLV they forgot our kosher meals but on the return today they remembered but the hechsher said some rabbanut which held by Heter Mechira so we only had the yoplait  yogurt and achva muffin.
The DL meal in DeltaONE on my flight back FCO-JFK was Stogel and actually was pretty good for the most part.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on January 14, 2016, 11:15:52 AM
did anyone here ever ask their Rav if its permissible to eat a fruit meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 14, 2016, 11:27:46 AM
did anyone here ever ask their Rav if its permissible to eat a fruit meal?

What could possibly be the problem? Unless it's El Al and you're worried about terumah, maiser, etc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: HolyNyc on January 14, 2016, 11:28:54 AM
What could possibly be the problem? Unless it's El Al and you're worried about terumah, maiser, etc.
donno, treife knives?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on January 14, 2016, 09:59:06 PM
donno, treife knives?
A knife would only be a problem if its a Davar Charif.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 15, 2016, 01:25:42 AM
Davar Charif.
Does pineapple count?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on January 15, 2016, 02:20:32 PM
who caters NY-LHR on AA & BA and who gives the hashgacha?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 16, 2016, 07:48:14 PM
who caters NY-LHR on AA & BA and who gives the hashgacha?
Think borenstein. But regardless, hashgacha was always OU for me.

Still trying to get BA to provide hermolis for my F flight JFK-LHR.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on January 16, 2016, 08:36:19 PM
who caters NY-LHR on AA & BA and who gives the hashgacha?

AA was Regal in 2014.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on January 20, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
Anyone know where the food comes from on QR PHL-DOH?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 25, 2016, 05:33:29 PM
Anyone familiar with the Hashgacha on the KSML OS EX-VIE?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on January 25, 2016, 07:09:16 PM
Anyone familiar with the Hashgacha on the KSML OS EX-VIE?
Yes. Shwartz. Very good.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 26, 2016, 03:27:07 AM
Yes. Shwartz. Very good.
Thank you.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LeahB on January 28, 2016, 09:09:17 AM
I'm flying BA TLV-LHR-YYZ return, any idea what the food situation is? Any place in Israel to get POM-like frozen meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 28, 2016, 01:19:28 PM
I'm flying BA TLV-LHR-YYZ return, any idea what the food situation is? Any place in Israel to get POM-like frozen meals?
Ex-LHR is Hermolis, which is undisputedly the best KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 28, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
Any experience on EY F Ex-BKK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on February 01, 2016, 12:40:16 PM
Does anyone know what QF F serves ex-DXB and what QR F serves ex-DOH?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on February 08, 2016, 11:05:59 AM
We were very happy to receive meals from Oahu Kosher on UA J from HNL - EWR   :)  We received steaks and roasted chicken for dinner and an omlet and hashbrown cake for breakfast.  The food was actually good as compared to the inedible stuff we have received in the past.

Dinner:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1530/24269399284_5bf4e2e632_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CYB1SG)Dinner Steak (https://flic.kr/p/CYB1SG) by P Bryan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131667304@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1443/24897537275_3a574d958b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DW7oq4)Dinner Roasted Chicken (https://flic.kr/p/DW7oq4) by P Bryan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131667304@N06/), on Flickr

Breakfast:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1523/24602055690_870bcf0007_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DtZY2Y)Breakfast (https://flic.kr/p/DtZY2Y) by P Bryan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131667304@N06/), on Flickr

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on February 08, 2016, 02:35:37 PM
Cool! Didn't know they do airline food.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 10, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
We were very happy to receive meals from Oahu Kosher on UA J from HNL - EWR   :)  We received steaks and roasted chicken for dinner and an omlet and hashbrown cake for breakfast.  The food was actually good as compared to the inedible stuff we have received in the past.

Dinner:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1530/24269399284_5bf4e2e632_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CYB1SG)Dinner Steak (https://flic.kr/p/CYB1SG) by P Bryan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131667304@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1443/24897537275_3a574d958b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DW7oq4)Dinner Roasted Chicken (https://flic.kr/p/DW7oq4) by P Bryan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131667304@N06/), on Flickr

Breakfast:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1523/24602055690_870bcf0007_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DtZY2Y)Breakfast (https://flic.kr/p/DtZY2Y) by P Bryan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/131667304@N06/), on Flickr
Wow!
It looks absolutely delicious.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on February 15, 2016, 11:03:05 AM
BOS-BWI on SW. Star-K.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160215/146f95183ac0efb43c5acaab56c69acd.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SearchGuy on February 15, 2016, 05:45:02 PM
In AC 84 Y we got Beef chunks with rice from Hamasbia Canada with MK-Mehadrin Hechsher, was very good, especially with the Kosher Mevushal Wine they offer, it's under Harav Zekbach Hechser from France.
The breakfast was NOT dairy, so it wouldn't be a problem to eat the meat sandwich they offered in middle of the flight (wish I knew that before)
AC 85 was Hamasbia Israel, nothing major, both meals were meat, one was chicken balls, the second was chicken shwarma with rice, was for a change good, the sandwich in middle of the flight was a tuna sandwich in a wholewheat roll
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Chief Rabbi of New York on February 16, 2016, 07:37:21 AM
does AA lax to phl have kosher meal for first class?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on February 16, 2016, 07:54:51 AM
does AA lax to phl have kosher meal for first class?

no
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 17, 2016, 01:35:14 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before (please link me)
Are there data points on which airlines you can successfully request kosher champagne for F/J?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on February 17, 2016, 10:37:48 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before (please link me)
Are there data points on which airlines you can successfully request kosher champagne for F/J?

SQ R used to get it ex-JFK upon request but don't think they do it anymore

Other than that I think it's prob just LY F
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lybbtthl on February 19, 2016, 12:49:19 PM
I haven't found much info, what KSML can I expect in J JFK-AUH and F (A380 Apt) AUH-SYD?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on February 21, 2016, 09:49:47 AM
Called Copa twice to request a KSML in j , was told I need to call 48 hours before flight, I have a feeling rep's are missing something?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on February 21, 2016, 10:01:44 AM
Called Copa twice to request a KSML in j , was told I need to call 48 hours before flight, I have a feeling rep's are missing something?

I was ably to successfully request KSML via SQ's site weeks in advance.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on February 21, 2016, 10:54:10 AM
I was ably to successfully request KSML via SQ's site weeks in advance.

Was it booked with SQ? I used AC and the request is not showing on copa.

Btw what was the meal? Am I wasting my time?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on February 21, 2016, 01:10:56 PM
Was it booked with SQ? I used AC and the request is not showing on copa.

Btw what was the meal? Am I wasting my time?

Yes, booked with SQ.

The meal ex-USA was semi-decent (Borenstein IIRC). The meal EX-Panama was nightmare fuel.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on March 02, 2016, 04:52:39 PM
which hechsher is on AI ex FRA & DEL?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on March 03, 2016, 06:43:16 AM
which hechsher is on AI ex FRA & DEL?

bump
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on March 17, 2016, 04:29:05 AM
Email this morning from ET Customer service:

Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: KSML

Thank you for your message.
 
Based on the information that I have from our Catering department, they advised me that they have changed the supplier of the Kosher Meal and hopefully the service will start by next week.
 
Hoping that your future travel with us will be a nice one.

Hopefully Hermolis will be back and no more Stogels "food"
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 17, 2016, 04:39:58 AM


Email this morning from ET Customer service:


ET as in Ethiopian?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on March 17, 2016, 05:02:07 AM

ET as in Ethiopian?

Indeed
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Shaykee20 on March 17, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
Anyone know how aa first class kosher meal are flying mia to Gru
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on March 17, 2016, 08:03:33 PM
Can anyone rate the AA JFK-->LAX KSML in F?

Should I bother bringing my own breakfast 6:00am flight and would rather not worry about it...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on March 17, 2016, 08:53:17 PM
Can anyone rate the AA JFK-->LAX KSML in F?

Should I bother bringing my own breakfast 6:00am flight and would rather not worry about it...
Why wouldn't you? What's the worst thing that happens if you bring your own?

However if you don't, there's always a chance of things going wrong, even if you get the best reviews of the KSML for given route.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on March 17, 2016, 08:54:19 PM
Why wouldn't you? What's the worst thing that happens if you bring your own?

However if you don't, there's always a chance of things going wrong, even if you get the best reviews of the KSML for given route.

I hear that. Thanks for the advice.

Still looking for a review though. Thansk.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on March 17, 2016, 10:02:52 PM
Can anyone rate the AA JFK-->LAX KSML in F?

Should I bother bringing my own breakfast 6:00am flight and would rather not worry about it...
No matter how good the meal is, theres always a chance your meal simply wont be on the plane
BYOK
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on March 18, 2016, 09:18:23 AM
No matter how good the meal is, theres always a chance your meal simply wont be on the plane
BYOK

As with ExGingi I appreciate your suggestions. However, I am trying to find a review on the KSML on AA in F JFK-LAX.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on March 21, 2016, 07:43:51 AM
As with ExGingi I appreciate your suggestions. However, I am trying to find a review on the KSML on AA in F JFK-LAX.
My meal was a few days old JFK-LAX.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyP on March 21, 2016, 08:07:41 AM

That looks terrible! How did it taste?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on March 21, 2016, 10:18:07 AM
As with ExGingi I appreciate your suggestions. However, I am trying to find a review on the KSML on AA in F JFK-LAX.
From last June. The food was OK.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/921/ugcrMu.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plugcrMuj)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/922/cVVU0w.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmcVVU0wj)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/922/x3ohlN.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmx3ohlNj)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Crazy tools on March 22, 2016, 08:25:01 AM
Eze-Mia-Phl on AA in first. Does it make sense that there's no kosher meal on the second leg?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2016, 08:29:44 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Adam101 on March 22, 2016, 08:35:53 AM
Any meals served on a EWR-SAN UA flight at night?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 22, 2016, 08:44:14 AM
Any meals served on a EWR-SAN UA flight at night?
No
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on March 22, 2016, 10:39:06 AM
I think AJK also has a review somewhere about the KSML on AA F JFK-LAX.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yochiek93 on March 22, 2016, 10:43:51 AM
I think AJK also has a review somewhere about the KSML on AA F JFK-LAX.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46243.msg950455#msg950455
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on March 22, 2016, 10:47:50 AM
Yep. My KSML LAX-JFK was surprisingly decent as well. Was a while ago though.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lybbtthl on March 23, 2016, 03:56:29 AM
Just got off CX HKG-EWR, and the day before, BKK-HKG. both in biz

While I'm not surprised that the HKG-EWR was hermolis, I am surprised the BKK-HKG was. I only took a pic of the BKK-HKG, attached
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: eli1571 on March 23, 2016, 09:37:47 AM
does AA serve hermolis lhr jfk ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 23, 2016, 02:00:06 PM
Do AA, DL and UA serve the same Borenstein on transcon?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on March 23, 2016, 06:57:33 PM
Has anyone flown czech intra Europe and successfully got a kosher meal?
I'm curious whether I should even bother calling the airline
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on March 23, 2016, 10:08:59 PM
does AA serve hermolis lhr jfk ?
IIRC yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on March 23, 2016, 11:01:39 PM
AA J JFK GIG\GRU?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on March 31, 2016, 08:29:46 PM
Now this http://exame2.com.br/mobile/negocios/noticias/justica-condena-lufthansa-por-nao-servir-comida-kosher (http://exame2.com.br/mobile/negocios/noticias/justica-condena-lufthansa-por-nao-servir-comida-kosher) is a new development in the KSML arena. I wonder if it will set precedent.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on March 31, 2016, 08:39:13 PM
Now this http://exame2.com.br/mobile/negocios/noticias/justica-condena-lufthansa-por-nao-servir-comida-kosher (http://exame2.com.br/mobile/negocios/noticias/justica-condena-lufthansa-por-nao-servir-comida-kosher) is a new development in the KSML arena. I wonder if it will set precedent.


English please?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 31, 2016, 09:03:32 PM

English please?

I think it's saying Lufthansa got fined 5million (I guess Brazilian currency, no idea in dollars) for not having a kosher meal for a guy on a 14 hour flight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on March 31, 2016, 09:07:13 PM

English please?
Since when is English the language of DDF? I see lots of Yinglish dialects here.  ;D

I don't speak Portuguese, but I don't think it's too hard to figure out that a judge awarded 5,000 Reai to a Jewish traveller that didn't get the KSML he requested.

If all else fails try translate.google.com if it won't make sense you might at least get a good laugh.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 05, 2016, 08:50:44 PM
Does United offer KSML on transcon flights, where the meal service is Snack? If yes, any easier way to request it, than waiting on hold for 30+ minutes..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2016, 08:57:43 PM
Only EWR-LAX/SFO.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 05, 2016, 09:04:32 PM
Only EWR-LAX/SFO.

Referring to SFO-EWR. Not letting me select online, as it is only Snack service redeye.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2016, 09:08:47 PM
If it's just showing a snack for the flight then my understanding is that you can't order a KSML.
Seems like the flight needs to depart between 5am and 9pm for a meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 05, 2016, 09:11:01 PM
If it's just showing a snack for the flight then my understanding is that you can't order a KSML.
Seems like the flight needs to depart between 5am and 9pm for a meal.

Got it. Is UA the only one that won't allow KSML after 9pm on the transcon? Last time I flew AA redeye, I definitely received the KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 05, 2016, 10:28:04 PM
Got it. Is UA the only one that won't allow KSML after 9pm on the transcon? Last time I flew AA redeye, I definitely received the KSML.
Are you that desperate for some frozen geffilte fish?  ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 05, 2016, 10:35:47 PM
Are you that desperate for some frozen geffilte fish?  ;)

Haha, more for the compensation if they won't bring it :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on April 05, 2016, 11:53:20 PM
Haha, more for the compensation if they won't bring it :)
How about some compensation if they DO bring it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bznt on April 06, 2016, 12:37:24 AM
I am booked for a flight ewr to XNA in business. On the website it states that breakfast will be served but I can't select kosher meal, I called and was told that they don't offer kosher on this flight. Makes sense for a flight leaving ewr not to offer kosher  ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 06, 2016, 12:44:49 AM
I am booked for a flight ewr to XNA in business. On the website it states that breakfast will be served but I can't select kosher meal, I called and was told that they don't offer kosher on this flight. Makes sense for a flight leaving ewr not to offer kosher  ?

Only EWR-LAX/SFO.
Title: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 06, 2016, 12:45:56 AM
I am booked for a flight ewr to XNA in business. On the website it states that breakfast will be served but I can't select kosher meal, I called and was told that they don't offer kosher on this flight. Makes sense for a flight leaving ewr not to offer kosher  ?

United doesnt have KSML on domestic flights J (except HNL and PS). Been like this for a while
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on April 07, 2016, 01:42:06 PM


Still trying to get BA to provide hermolis for my F flight JFK-LHR.

How did that end up?

Any info about a KSML in the BA lounge in JFK terminal 7? Particularly when flying the late JFK-LCY route.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zee on April 07, 2016, 02:58:09 PM
Does Ukraine International Airlines (UIA) offer free KSML on flights from NYC - TLV (via KBP)?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on April 07, 2016, 03:31:19 PM



How did that end up?


Borenstein
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Thegr8m on April 08, 2016, 12:05:21 AM
Hi,
Is there any way to get kosher food in the narita jal business class lounge? Also I noticed someones post a couple days ago about kosher wine there, is that a one time thing?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on April 11, 2016, 01:10:25 AM
I just called Delta about a first class flight booked in A class from LGA-DFW for a kosher meal and they requested it for me. I didn't think they offered KSML on domestic flights? Anyone know anything about this?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on April 11, 2016, 01:25:19 AM
Who caters for Delta JFK-LHR route? Borenstein?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 11, 2016, 06:41:15 AM
I just called Delta about a first class flight booked in A class from LGA-DFW for a kosher meal and they requested it for me. I didn't think they offered KSML on domestic flights? Anyone know anything about this?

Delta is the only one to offer so.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on April 11, 2016, 10:46:40 AM
Anyone know what type of meal Delta serves on domestic first class?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on April 13, 2016, 02:19:54 AM
Based on the information that I have from our Catering department, they advised me that they have changed the supplier of the Kosher Meal and hopefully the service will start by next week.
Well, they did change the supplier to WAM WHY?

Was better than Stogels and to quote my friend "Much much better. Even quite good."
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 13, 2016, 09:32:06 AM
Was better than Stogels and to quote my friend "Much much better. Even quite good."

What route was this?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on April 13, 2016, 09:53:18 AM
Well, they did change the supplier to WAM WHY?

Was better than Stogels and to quote my friend "Much much better. Even quite good."

Does anyone know anything about this השגחה of רב שמעון שרביט?

From the picture it seems to say that meat is Glatt and Bishul is שיטת בית יוסף, but does anyone know if the Milchig meals are Cholov Yisroel?

I also seem to find it odd that the website listed is for a Beis Din that does Choshen Mishpot, I couldn't find anything on that website that mentions anything about Kashrus, nor any mention of Rabbonim other than Rav Sitruk and Rav Gross.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: blue eyes on April 14, 2016, 01:16:54 AM
Is there any way to request kosher food in the aa lounge at Phl as well as the ba lounge in Rome?
Also who caters the flight from  fco-Phl with AA?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on April 14, 2016, 03:00:56 AM
What route was this?
ADD-TLV on ET
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on May 04, 2016, 10:01:48 AM
Cross posting in case someone searches this thread for Norwegian.

Thanks, I just saw your response now, but you're right. Very good food from Europe, WAM (http://wam-group.com/nouveau-site/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Wam_Kosher_Range.pdf) is the caterer, Norwegian's KSML might differ from what is pictured in their link. Keep in mind the Kashrus is AYLOR... See the KSML master thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24510.msg1199433#msg1199433) for more info.

From the US they allegedly (someone told me) serve the "regular Borenstein garbage" for KSML, probably not worth paying for.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on May 04, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
Cross posting in case someone searches this thread for Norwegian.
back last year when I flew them several times they didnt offer KSML, even if you paid. glad to see they smartened up
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 04, 2016, 07:56:55 PM
Haha, more for the compensation if they won't bring it :)

And they did end up having an extra one onboard, that was kosher for Passover. Passed on it, before they brought it over.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: raccah on May 05, 2016, 01:41:23 PM
Just came back from the new SFO-TLV direct in biz both ways and the food is beyond atrocious! The US - TLV was barely OK, I only ate the starter. The return was so horrible I took one look and handed it back to them. Thanks GOD for Aroma in the airport - not great, but good enough.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2016, 01:42:14 PM
BYOK FTW.
But write to UA anyway.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: raccah on May 05, 2016, 02:03:16 PM
I did already - that along with broken power and delayed bags got me 300. Still, this issue has been going on for a long time now man! I always bring my own food, I was just posting here to tell folks, that the new flights still suck hard!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2016, 02:09:32 PM
Only delicious UA KSML is ex-HNL/OGG.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 05, 2016, 02:26:23 PM
Only delicious UA KSML is ex-HNL/OGG.

While delicious might be nice to have, for me the order of importance with KSML are:

1. Kashrus (good reliable השגחה, with standards acceptable to me - strictly Cholov Yisroel, etc.)
2. Edible.
3. Fresh.
4. Easy to actually eat given the circumstances (dishes, utensils, space etc.)
5. Tasty.

Since I can't rely on any airline for any of the above, it's always BYOK for me, if there's something decent, I take that as a bonus.

It is unfortunate that the Airlines don't really seem to be properly aware of the Kosher consumer market, and just buy whatever the local "kosher" caterer will give, regardless of Kashrus standards that need to be universally acceptable, and regardless of quality.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on May 09, 2016, 07:52:12 AM
Booked some late EY F flights, asked social media team about adding KSMLs but they didn't get back to me in time (should have just called) - anyway now less than 72 hours  (flight is 2 days from now), any other way to try and get the KSMLs?

They agreed to send an email to the catering team but I'm skeptical they'll even try...
Also no KSML for AUH lounge anymore right?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on May 09, 2016, 10:57:15 PM
Booked some late EY F flights, asked social media team about adding KSMLs but they didn't get back to me in time (should have just called) - anyway now less than 72 hours  (flight is 2 days from now), any other way to try and get the KSMLs?

They agreed to send an email to the catering team but I'm skeptical they'll even try...
Also no KSML for AUH lounge anymore right?
Where are you flying out of?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 09, 2016, 11:15:27 PM
Anyone with experience on DL J international, with BYOK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 09, 2016, 11:46:43 PM
Anyone with experience on DL J international, with BYOK?

No experience with BYOK, but DL J on JFK-SVO was probably the best KSML ever offered to me. One of the courses (out of a three or four course meal) was simply spoiled (for wife), DL compensated with choice of GC (for which I took $100 Amazon GC).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on May 10, 2016, 01:04:33 AM
Where are you flying out of?
TLV/AMM
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 10, 2016, 05:15:22 AM
No experience with BYOK, but DL J on JFK-SVO was probably the best KSML ever offered to me. One of the courses (out of a three or four course meal) was simply spoiled (for wife), DL compensated with choice of GC (for which I took $100 Amazon GC).
Thanks. But flight was booked within 24 hours of departure, so that's not an option.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on May 10, 2016, 06:55:15 AM
Where are you flying out of?
Out of curiosity, why do you ask?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on May 10, 2016, 07:46:21 AM
Anyone with experience on DL J international, with BYOK?

I had success in domestic J (ATL-HNL (called Delta One these days) and LAX-JFK).

Ask in the BYOK thread, you're likely to find more data points there.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 10, 2016, 07:55:15 AM
I had success in domestic J (ATL-HNL (called Delta One these days) and LAX-JFK).

Ask in the BYOK thread, you're likely to find more data points there.
Thanks. Did they give you hard time.

Was looking for that thread, couldn't find it on Tapa.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on May 10, 2016, 08:17:04 AM
Thanks. Did they give you hard time.

Was looking for that thread, couldn't find it on Tapa.

Here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46852.0)

No hard time, although the FA out of LAX was slightly hesitant for a moment.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 10, 2016, 08:50:57 AM
Here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46852.0)

No hard time, although the FA out of LAX was slightly hesitant for a moment.
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on May 10, 2016, 11:21:35 PM
Anyone know hechsher on AC J ksml out of CDG?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on May 11, 2016, 09:27:51 AM
Only delicious UA KSML is ex-HNL/OGG.
We didn't get Oahu Kosher. Meals were from NY.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 11, 2016, 09:36:08 AM
We didn't get Oahu Kosher. Meals were from NY.
Well that stinks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on May 12, 2016, 03:05:48 AM
We didn't get Oahu Kosher. Meals were from NY.
Yup my BIL had the same issue, seems like even if you order kosher in J hnl-ewr you can still end up with bornstein meals
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on May 12, 2016, 01:57:12 PM
Anyone know if possible to get KSML on Virgin America FC JFK-LAX route? When I called, the Rep directed me to the website where it mentions Kosher meals in a blog post but not the actual menu option.
any one?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: westman812 on May 12, 2016, 01:59:37 PM
any one?

No Kosher meals, just snacks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on May 12, 2016, 02:04:29 PM
why does there website  show you can get special meals? in first class
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 12, 2016, 03:56:29 PM
why does there website  show you can get special meals? in first class

Why are you asking here rather than asking them?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cooljoe613 on May 12, 2016, 04:32:48 PM
Why are you asking here rather than asking them?

i called them there just as confused lol
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on May 12, 2016, 08:45:24 PM
BTW apparently DL serves free meals in Y (including KSML) to SJU
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: westman812 on May 13, 2016, 09:56:55 AM
i called them there just as confused lol
They heated up our meal. The FA actually was an off the derech frum guy, so he understood obv, and was very nice. Seats are probably the worst transcontinental seats in the industry, and was very hard to sleep on. I found the old Business PS seats better. I wouldn't pay for first under any circumstances transcontinental. Maybe to DAL or FLL.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 13, 2016, 12:52:33 PM
They heated up our meal. The FA actually was an off the derech frum guy פארבלאנדזשעטע יידישע נשמה, so he understood obv, and was very nice.

FTFY
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on May 19, 2016, 03:12:07 PM
Yup my BIL had the same issue, seems like even if you order kosher in J hnl-ewr you can still end up with bornstein meals

The irony. UA probably only sources J KSML from Borensteins...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on May 30, 2016, 04:42:34 PM
Does anyone know what EK serves from MXP to JFk in F?
sure it has been discussed but dont have the time to check this whole thread

Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on May 30, 2016, 09:49:00 PM
AA 973 JFK GIG J hats off to Borenstiens for working with AA  on these fresh meals out of  NYC

Dinner service:
(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad97/ual902/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05244.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/ual902/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05244.jpg.html)

(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad97/ual902/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05249.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/ual902/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05249.jpg.html)


Breakfest service:
(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad97/ual902/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05259.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/ual902/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05259.jpg.html)


Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: thaber on May 30, 2016, 09:52:33 PM
Quick data point,  El Al ex lax seems to be making their own meals under the kehilla kosher.  Not too bad
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on May 30, 2016, 09:58:51 PM
AA 973 JFK GIG J hats off to Borenstiens for working with AA  on these fresh meals out of  NYC

Dinner service:
(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad97/ual902/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05244.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/ual902/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05244.jpg.html)

(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad97/ual902/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05249.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/ual902/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05249.jpg.html)


Breakfest service:
(http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad97/ual902/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05259.jpg) (http://s925.photobucket.com/user/ual902/media/Mobile%20Uploads/CAM05259.jpg.html)
For heavens sake why is Borenstiens so in love with breasts? That seams to be the only protein they serve.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 31, 2016, 03:06:03 PM
Don't understand why they can't serve Pancakes or French Toast instead of rubbery eggs. Is there anyone who prefers the eggs?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on May 31, 2016, 11:40:55 PM
JFK-LHR on AA, Do they serve Borestein or Regal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on June 01, 2016, 12:43:55 PM
Is Bedatz of Amsterdam a reliable hasgacha?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 01, 2016, 01:04:21 PM
JFK-LHR on AA, Do they serve Borestein or Regal?
IIRC in economy they serve Borenstein
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on June 01, 2016, 01:10:57 PM
JFK-LHR on AA, Do they serve Borestein or Regal?

I had regal in business 2 years ago.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 01, 2016, 02:12:00 PM
Is Bedatz of Amsterdam a reliable hasgacha?

will a random DDF answer be reliable
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Elchay on June 02, 2016, 02:52:42 PM
will a random DDF answer be reliable
Could help. i.e. if it's reform then I know it's not good.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dealer on June 07, 2016, 05:39:07 PM
I think it would be helpful if we put together a google docs and people could get the info from there.  updated the wiki with the google docs
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Platinum on June 07, 2016, 11:07:45 PM
Can one order a Kosher meal LAX-JFK on vx?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on June 08, 2016, 01:25:50 PM
Can one order a Kosher meal LAX-JFK on vx?

Nope BYOK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Platinum on June 08, 2016, 01:49:27 PM
Nope BYOK.
Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shalumov on June 10, 2016, 03:05:27 PM
What does Delta serves on JFK-TLV? Flying end of the month around Midnight (Cabin V). It shows that Dinner will be served.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YMW on July 03, 2016, 11:10:55 PM
What would be the difference in the KSML between the following two flights:

1) OS 72 | Boeing 767-300 YYZ-VIE
2) OS 90 | Boeing 767-300 EWR-VIE
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mileagejunkie on July 06, 2016, 03:02:07 AM
Referring to SFO-EWR. Not letting me select online, as it is only Snack service redeye.

Were you able to get KSML for snack service?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on July 06, 2016, 07:43:27 AM
Were you able to get KSML for snack service?

YMMV, officially no, though on my flight they brought it on from manual phone request.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mileagejunkie on July 06, 2016, 11:18:59 AM
YMMV, officially no, though on my flight they brought it on from manual phone request.
Thanks!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2016, 01:16:48 AM
Anyone know if AC offers KSML on internationally configured 777-300ER in J, YYZ<>YVR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on July 08, 2016, 07:17:10 AM
Anyone know if AC offers KSML on internationally configured 777-300ER in J, YYZ<>YVR?

Yup they do.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2016, 12:01:47 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: emak on July 10, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Flying Delta economy JFK-TLV during the nine days. Any possibility of getting Kosher dairy meal? (Not fish)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on July 10, 2016, 08:22:41 PM
Flying Delta economy JFK-TLV during the nine days. Any possibility of getting Kosher dairy meal? (Not fish)
Just bring your own food. Or coordinate a Siyum on board.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on July 10, 2016, 09:49:08 PM
coordinate a Siyum on board.

 
;D Had that once.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 15, 2016, 08:14:43 AM
Anyone with experience on Turkish in J ex-IST?

Specifically, is it edible, and what is the Hashgacha.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jay_dubya on July 15, 2016, 10:17:08 AM
I'm flying CX F from Zurich to hong kong. Catered by Shalom.
How is their catering?
Is it crazy to route through London for Hermolis?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 15, 2016, 10:36:49 AM
I'm flying CX F from Zurich to hong kong. Catered by Shalom.
How is their catering?
Is it crazy to route through London for Hermolis?
Folks around here would think your crazy. No airline meals can compete with BYOK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on July 15, 2016, 10:53:03 AM
Folks around here would think your crazy. No airline meals can compete with BYOK.

Def true. Wondering if I should make myself some steak for my flight on Tuesday.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 15, 2016, 10:56:13 AM
Def true. Wondering if I should make myself some steak for my flight on Tuesday.
Lol.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on July 15, 2016, 10:57:39 AM
Lol.

You laugh. I am contemplating.

Maybe some Sushi. Some Steak. Some Cheesecake for breakfast.  ::)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 15, 2016, 10:58:32 AM
You laugh. I am contemplating.

Maybe some Sushi. Some Steak. Some Cheesecake for breakfast.  ::)
Now your just getting me hungry.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jay_dubya on July 15, 2016, 12:18:09 PM
Does anyone know who caters KSML out of DUS?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on July 16, 2016, 01:59:15 PM
I'm flying CX F from Zurich to hong kong. Catered by Shalom.
How is their catering?
Is it crazy to route through London for Hermolis?

I think it's quite good and tasty. It's fresh, which in a way is better than the frozen Hermolis you sometimes get out of London on foreign airlines.

You can see pictures of all the meals here

http://www.schalomcatering.ch/#!komplettmahlzeiten/c1e7h

Not sure if you'd get business or 'premuim' meal on CX F.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jay_dubya on July 17, 2016, 12:34:01 AM
I think it's quite good and tasty. It's fresh, which in a way is better than the frozen Hermolis you sometimes get out of London on foreign airlines.

You can see pictures of all the meals here

http://www.schalomcatering.ch/#!komplettmahlzeiten/c1e7h

Not sure if you'd get business or 'premuim' meal on CX F.

Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SZY on July 18, 2016, 03:13:54 PM
What is the difference between a regular kosher meal on elal and the strictly kosher meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2016, 03:23:34 PM
What is the difference between a regular kosher meal on elal and the strictly kosher meal?
Rabanut vs mehadrin.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on July 18, 2016, 11:26:01 PM
Who's the ksml caterer on TK ex-JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: David Smith on July 18, 2016, 11:36:26 PM
Who's the ksml caterer on TK ex-JFK?
Fresh Kills
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 20, 2016, 01:51:30 AM
Fresh Kills
Is it any good?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 20, 2016, 02:10:38 AM
Any chance at all of getting a BYOK warmed up on UA Y HNL-EWR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 20, 2016, 02:24:18 AM
Any chance at all of getting a BYOK warmed up on UA Y HNL-EWR?
Always a chance, just depends on the Stewardess, and how you ask..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 20, 2016, 08:48:37 PM
Always a chance, just depends on the Stewardess, and how you ask..

Best bet in general is not ordering Kosher and then telling them you dont have anything to eat and it would be great if they could heat up your BYOK
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 21, 2016, 02:30:34 AM
Best bet in general is not ordering Kosher and then telling them you dont have anything to eat and it would be great if they could heat up your BYOK
But then if they dont, your stuck..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 21, 2016, 08:50:12 PM
Best bet in general is not ordering Kosher and then telling them you dont have anything to eat and it would be great if they could heat up your BYOK
I don't think they provide meals at all on this route in Y.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on July 25, 2016, 12:52:04 PM
I recall reading somewhere about some traains in Europe offering Kosher meals aboard.

I bought a first class ticket on Italotreno which includes meal service.

Anyone know if they offer a kosher meal option?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on July 25, 2016, 02:26:24 PM
any good recommendations for the pom meals
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YMW on July 25, 2016, 02:47:06 PM
any good recommendations for the pom meals
Check out this thread:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=52783.0
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jay_dubya on July 27, 2016, 08:48:20 AM
Anyone know who caters AA 138 from HKG?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 08, 2016, 03:51:00 PM
Booked UA EWR-LAX in BusinessFirst. No KSML option online. Is that normal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2016, 03:58:53 PM
Booked UA EWR-LAX in BusinessFirst. No KSML option online. Is that normal?
PUTPAC
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 08, 2016, 04:03:08 PM
PUTPAC

Did that once, rep said it's domestic and no KSML. Does smoking the HUCA help here?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2016, 04:14:27 PM
Always.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sruly on August 08, 2016, 04:18:41 PM
Booked UA EWR-LAX in BusinessFirst. No KSML option online. Is that normal?
I had that a few times as well sometimes its the option is there and sometime I need to call in.
(the few times that the option was not there was always on the Continental planes and the ones where I could select a meal was on the PS planes)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 08, 2016, 04:20:03 PM
I had that a few times as well sometimes its the option is there and sometime I need to call in.
(the few times that the option was not there was always on the Continental planes and the ones where I could select a meal was on the PS planes)

Aren't all the flights PS?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 08, 2016, 04:38:40 PM
Always.

Tried again, success. Thanks!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on August 08, 2016, 06:45:59 PM
Aren't all the flights PS?
By now, yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 09, 2016, 05:15:35 PM
What kind of meal can I expect on EWR-LAX P.S. flight?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ygift on August 10, 2016, 09:38:54 AM
What does Lufthansa have from JFK to fra? Is it from new York hashgacha ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on August 10, 2016, 10:09:19 AM
What does Lufthansa have from JFK to fra? Is it from new York hashgacha ?
Usually.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lindnuck on August 10, 2016, 06:50:52 PM
Going AMS->LAX with a 2.5 layover in DC at IAD. Business all the way.

Our last leg leaves 10pm EDT and arrives 1am PDT, so they don't offer any meals. There is a "snack" but no kosher snack option, I'm told.

I tried to call and ask for kosher meals to be available in the lounge at IAD, but they told me it's not possible to order ahead of time. Does anyone have any info otherwise, or other suggestions?

TIA!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on August 11, 2016, 12:38:00 AM
What does Lufthansa have from JFK to fra? Is it from new York hashgacha ?
IIRC it's Regal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 11, 2016, 06:31:20 PM
Which airlines serve premium cabin KSMLs on China?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on August 12, 2016, 02:32:38 AM
Which airlines serve premium cabin KSMLs on China?

AA out of NYC\US
UA out of  NYC\US
LH out of FRA
BA out of LHR
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ygift on August 12, 2016, 02:45:19 AM
Lh out of fra you might want to check out the kashrus. I just checked out with a few different people (including one that lives there & is familiar with the situation) I was told that for flights out of Germany "it would be a good idea to bring sandwiches"
I also heard the same kind of answer from a traveler that spoke to the ou. Their answer was "we can't recommended it"
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on August 12, 2016, 03:34:11 AM
Lh out of fra you might want to check out the kashrus. I just checked out with a few different people (including one that lives there & is familiar with the situation) I was told that for flights out of Germany "it would be a good idea to bring sandwiches"
I also heard the same kind of answer from a traveler that spoke to the ou. Their answer was "we can't recommended it"
Is it the same food as they serve in the FCT?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ygift on August 12, 2016, 09:39:58 AM
What's fct? First class lounge? I don't know but I assume it would be from the same place. (sohar)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on August 12, 2016, 09:46:04 AM
Is it the same food as they serve in the FCT?

Yes
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on August 12, 2016, 09:47:22 AM


BA out of LHR
BA ex-JFK as well.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on August 12, 2016, 09:47:55 AM
What's fct? First class lounge? I don't know but I assume it would be from the same place. (sohar)

FCT stands for First Class Terminal and you get the same exact Sohar meal that you would get aboard the aircraft.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on August 12, 2016, 09:49:14 AM
Yes
Thanx.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on August 12, 2016, 11:01:00 AM
Thanx.
Sucks. I know.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on August 12, 2016, 11:02:30 AM
Sucks. I know.
Yes it does. 😥
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: raccah on August 15, 2016, 02:57:37 PM
Just double checking - my flight from SFO to EWR on PS does not support KSML - correct? Dan had said it would when they opened up, but I guess that has been stopped now? called and they said no.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on August 15, 2016, 07:49:11 PM
Just double checking - my flight from SFO to EWR on PS does not support KSML - correct? Dan had said it would when they opened up, but I guess that has been stopped now? called and they said no.

In J there is KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: raccah on August 15, 2016, 08:23:02 PM
Ok, so maybe they said no to me because the flight is late in the evening, is that the issue??
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on August 15, 2016, 08:26:18 PM
Ok, so maybe they said no to me because the flight is late in the evening, is that the issue??

Officially only offered when meal service is offered, even that you can get pushed through.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jay_dubya on August 16, 2016, 10:18:15 AM
Which airlines serve premium cabin KSMLs on China?

AA out of MXP
BA out of MXP

I'd assume any aa or ba flights catered by Hermolis.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: thaber on August 16, 2016, 02:36:20 PM
PSA:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wctx6626hbrp012/Screenshot%202016-08-16%2011.31.29.png?dl=0
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on August 16, 2016, 06:34:00 PM
AA out of MXP
BA out of MXP

I'd assume any aa or ba flights catered by Hermolis.
If flight is not originating in LHR, Im not sure its safe to assume. CMIIW
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on August 28, 2016, 03:17:59 AM
Who caters AF JFK-CDG?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jonnydm on September 09, 2016, 06:51:57 AM
I was travelling Premium Economy with BA earlier this week. The tray arrived as the sealed box on the plastic tray (catered by Open Kosher, this was ex EZE), and next to it the BA metal cutlery and the standard dessert that the other passengers were being served albeit with a yellow sticker with KSML ticked next to it.

Having realised that neither of those components was from the KSML (as might be with Hermolis), I asked the FA who also said he was surprised. Seems that they added these to 'bump up' the KSML to be for Premium Economy. Still not good for those who wouldn't have thought twice.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EJB on September 11, 2016, 09:17:36 AM
Anyone know what UA J from DEL or BOM gets?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: CS91 on September 14, 2016, 11:49:22 AM
Anyone know what UA J from DEL or BOM gets?
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Curry_powder_in_the_spice-bazaar_in_Istanbul.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tzfas on September 14, 2016, 12:25:48 PM
Who caters AF JFK-CDG?
Does anyone have any update on this?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyS on September 20, 2016, 11:30:40 AM
Anyone know what hechsher on Air France
TLV-CDG?
CDG-JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on September 20, 2016, 11:43:59 AM
CDG-JFK?
bdatz amsterdam
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on September 20, 2016, 11:55:46 AM
TLV-CDG?
Not sure about the hechsher, maybe rabanut, but here's a pic..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: SrulyS on September 20, 2016, 11:58:52 AM
bdatz amsterdam
Thank you.
A big help as my sister's family is flying in a few hours.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ygift on September 20, 2016, 12:10:15 PM
I believe that all airlines out of tlv are badatz eida chareidis from masbia. (As long ad you request the mehadrin kosher)
On elal if you don't request it then its rabanut
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on September 20, 2016, 12:16:12 PM
I believe that all airlines out of tlv are badatz eida chareidis from masbia. (As long ad you request the mehadrin kosher)
On elal if you don't request it then its rabanut
-1

On AF it's plain Rabbanut IIRC.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on September 20, 2016, 12:17:07 PM
Anyone know what hechsher on Air France
TLV-CDG?
CDG-JFK?
TLV-CDG I was served plain Rabbanut.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on September 23, 2016, 01:34:39 AM
Does anyone know if Virgin Atlantic offers kosher meals in the LHR Revivals lounge ?
I know they have in the regular lounge.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on September 23, 2016, 07:49:31 AM
-1

On AF it's plain Rabbanut IIRC.
I also knew it was Rabbanut (heter mechira et al.) however my son just came from TLV and while he didn't get his own KSML, there happened to be an extra one for him, and to his great surprise it was Masbia / Badatz Eida Chareidis.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on September 23, 2016, 07:51:18 AM
I also knew it was Rabbanut (heter mechira et al.) however my son just came from TLV and while he didn't get his own KSML, there happened to be an extra one for him, and to his great surprise it was Masbia / Badatz Eida Chareidis.
Glad to hear they changed.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on September 23, 2016, 08:10:41 AM
Glad to hear they changed.
I was pleasantly surprised, especially since my son didn't follow my instructions to bring along food. However, I wouldn't count on it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 24, 2016, 11:45:04 PM
JetBlue takes KSML to a new level, serving three full dishes, chicken, fish and meat. All served in real dishes will kosher wine, white and red. Meals are from Borenstein, was really tasty options.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on September 25, 2016, 12:06:29 AM
JetBlue takes KSML to a new level, serving three full dishes, chicken, fish and meat. All served in real dishes will kosher wine, white and red. Meals are from Borenstein, was really tasty options.
Here's the menu. Looking forward to trying it on my next trip out west IY"H.

http://www2.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/mint/menu/special/MintMenu_Special_Kosher.pdf
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on September 25, 2016, 01:03:04 AM
JetBlue takes KSML to a new level, serving three full dishes, chicken, fish and meat. All served in real dishes will kosher wine, white and red. Meals are from Borenstein, was really tasty options.

Don't overblow it. Had it x-LAX nothing exciting, was maybe better than AA but to make it sound like out of this world is not right.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 25, 2016, 02:03:51 AM
Don't overblow it. Had it x-LAX nothing exciting, was maybe better than AA but to make it sound like out of this world is not right.

Whose catering was it ex LAX? And what time was the flight?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on September 25, 2016, 02:08:16 AM
Here's the menu. Looking forward to trying it on my next trip out west IY"H.

http://www2.jetblue.com/flying-on-jetblue/mint/menu/special/MintMenu_Special_Kosher.pdf
3 choices for main dish for KSML! I don't recall seeing that even on TLV-JFK in J (non LY).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 25, 2016, 04:04:20 AM
3 choices for main dish for KSML! I don't recall seeing that even on TLV-JFK in J (non LY).

Yup and they serve you all 3, no need to choose.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on October 05, 2016, 11:59:09 AM
Who caters AF JFK-CDG?
BUMP. Anyone knows?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on November 02, 2016, 09:46:17 PM
Does anyone know if DL offers KSMl in first class from LGA-ATL and from ATL-DAL?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 02, 2016, 10:06:32 PM
Does anyone know if DL offers KSMl in first class from LGA-ATL and from ATL-DAL?

No, only 900 miles +.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: kangarruu on November 03, 2016, 10:59:39 AM
NH ORD-HND F/J lunch/dinner (there's no difference in the KSML). Mostly awful food, catered by Emuna. Yes, that is a juice box.

(https://i.imgur.com/CBCqK2b.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8rpqeqv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/l6CxF2h.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 03, 2016, 11:13:26 AM
NH ORD-HND F/J lunch/dinner (there's no difference in the KSML). Mostly awful food, catered by Emuna. Yes, that is a juice box.

Really disliked the food from emuna too, on QF F LAX-SYD.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: california on November 03, 2016, 09:47:43 PM
anyone knows how to order kosher meals on Eva air JFK-HKG that i booked on United? Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on November 04, 2016, 02:11:34 AM
anyone knows how to order kosher meals on Eva air JFK-HKG that i booked on United? Thanks
PUTPAC!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on November 08, 2016, 04:36:20 PM
which KSML is Aeroflot serving TLV - SVO & return?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on November 09, 2016, 11:22:07 AM
which KSML is Aeroflot serving TLV - SVO & return?

bump
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on November 14, 2016, 11:22:28 AM
which KSML is Aeroflot serving TLV - SVO & return?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EJB on November 14, 2016, 11:34:51 AM
DEL-EWR KSML on UA J was R. Kantor VGML  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2016, 11:38:39 AM
DEL-EWR KSML on UA J was R. Kantor VGML  >:( >:( >:(
Write to 1K desk.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EJB on November 14, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
Write to 1K desk.

Beat you to it :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2016, 12:04:49 PM
Enjoy the $100 or $200 :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EJB on November 14, 2016, 12:08:16 PM
Enjoy the $100 or $200 :)

I'll enjoy that, and the 95k RDM I'm otherwise getting for this flight :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EJB on November 15, 2016, 02:04:36 AM
Enjoy the $100 or $200 :)

12.5k ua
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2016, 02:13:04 AM
12.5k ua
Nice. You can trade for a $250 ETC if you're so inclined.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on November 15, 2016, 07:08:33 PM
Any kosher food in centurion lounge lga?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EJB on November 15, 2016, 07:09:08 PM
Nice. You can trade for a $250 ETC if you're so inclined.


Thanks for the advice. Done
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on November 15, 2016, 07:10:28 PM
Any kosher food in centurion lounge lga?
Or in any other LGA lounge?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PieRSquare on November 24, 2016, 02:37:42 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161124/1c1790fc0e4267594ed22862fc2e4844.jpg)

Meal one on NH Y NRT-IAH.  The pasta salad was rough, but the rest was edible. Pete Unger Catering out of Australia.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161124/fbca2a34c0bdfe15246624b7b7db25dd.jpg)

Meal two which was underwhelming, but edible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yg99 on November 25, 2016, 10:06:43 AM
Why is it that (in my experience) most business class meals to Israel through Europe have Fish as the main?

Is there any way to request chicken or beef?

What if I am allergic to fish?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on November 25, 2016, 11:00:30 AM
Why is it that (in my experience) most business class meals to Israel through Europe have Fish as the main?

Is there any way to request chicken or beef?

What if I am allergic to fish?
I don't know that your statement is true, but it might be in order not to get into which Shechita different people find acceptable.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rudswjkbv on December 04, 2016, 03:21:21 PM
Does anyone know if there will be any Kosher option on a Delta One flight from LAX-JFK that leaves LAX at 11 PM? According to my itinerary, the meal service is "snack" but at least online it let me put in a request for a Kosher meal. Thanks!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on December 04, 2016, 05:41:59 PM
Delta One Ex-HNL is what caterer?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on December 04, 2016, 10:39:56 PM
Does anyone know if there will be any Kosher option on a Delta One flight from LAX-JFK that leaves LAX at 11 PM? According to my itinerary, the meal service is "snack" but at least online it let me put in a request for a Kosher meal. Thanks!

I think it will still have supper HUCA delta till you get an answer
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on December 21, 2016, 03:16:47 PM
Anyone know what QR serves out of ATL?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Issac Karahod on December 21, 2016, 03:31:22 PM
Flying Delta MSP - PDX First class says it serves lunch. Requested kosher meal. What brand meal and hechsher will that be? TIA
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YudiG on January 01, 2017, 11:34:21 AM
What caterer/hashgacha is KSML on TLV-ZRH and ZRH-LAX on LX?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 01, 2017, 05:33:04 PM
What caterer/hashgacha is KSML on TLV-ZRH and ZRH-LAX on LX?
Ex-TLV is Badatz. Ex-ZRH is Schalom caterers, dont remember the Hashgacha off hand, but its usually fresh and tasty.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 01, 2017, 05:44:54 PM
dont remember the Hashgacha off hand, but its usually fresh and tasty.

Kahal Yisroel, Vienna (Rabbi Avraham Yona Schwartz).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on January 05, 2017, 03:18:47 AM


KOSHER FISH LUNCH ON EL AL: ZRH-TLV ON LY348

http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/01/04/kosher-fish-lunch-el-al-zrh-tlv-ly348/#_ga=1.203748375.667563870.1482904098 (http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/01/04/kosher-fish-lunch-el-al-zrh-tlv-ly348/#_ga=1.203748375.667563870.1482904098)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YMW on January 05, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
Who caters JL out of JFK? and out of NRT?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on January 10, 2017, 05:28:32 AM
which KSML is LX serving from BOS?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on January 10, 2017, 05:36:24 AM
EK JFK-ICN F class what ksml?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on January 10, 2017, 04:48:44 PM
EK JFK-ICN F class what ksml?
EK doesn't fly that route
They do fly
JFK-DXB
DXB-ICN
and the two flights are likely different caterers
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 10, 2017, 08:31:10 PM
which KSML is LX serving from BOS?
Borenstein IIRC
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: a mirrer on January 16, 2017, 08:06:45 AM
does AB serve kosher on their TXL-TLV flight or only on long-haul flights
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YMW on January 16, 2017, 09:18:38 AM
Hi,
Is there any way to get kosher food in the narita jal business class lounge? Also I noticed someones post a couple days ago about kosher wine there, is that a one time thing?
Any DP on JAL lounge?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on January 16, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
BRU-JFK on SN, got Stogel, and it was as good as airline food can get

First meal was schnitzel with noodles later they gave ice creme. Second meal was a falafel in pita for an airline it was amazing.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on January 16, 2017, 07:07:14 PM
BRU-JFK on SN, got Stogel.

Stogel and food are an oxymoron.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PieRSquare on January 17, 2017, 08:20:12 PM
UA NRT-GUM Dinner Service in Business

Regal on real China with silverware

Smoked salmon appetizer, pasta with vegetables/tomato sauce, pita and sponge cake.

It was fine, but nothing to get excited about. Most kosher meals leaving Japan are meatless.

GUM-NRT Breakfast service in Business

Also Regal, standard UA kosher breakfast.  It would be great if they had a dairy version of the omelette for single meal flights.  Also, who needs a danish and a bagel in the same meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on January 22, 2017, 11:25:15 AM
Stogel and food are an oxymoron.


they have also fresh meals, not only long life.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Iz on January 22, 2017, 08:53:23 PM
I saw a few people asked about KSML on TK, but I didn't see any replies. So, does anyone know if they have KSML, and which hashgocha it is, on JFK-IST-TLV, and the reverse? Thanks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 22, 2017, 09:07:00 PM
I saw a few people asked about KSML on TK, but I didn't see any replies. So, does anyone know if they have KSML, and which hashgocha it is, on JFK-IST-TLV, and the reverse? Thanks.

From DDMS:

Turkish offers freshly made kosher meals in all classes and they are highly regarded as well. They are made in Turkey and are kosher supervised by the OK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Iz on January 22, 2017, 09:10:35 PM
From DDMS:

Turkish offers freshly made kosher meals in all classes and they are highly regarded as well. They are made in Turkey and are kosher supervised by the OK.
Very nice. Thanks. Interesting that even ex-TLV it's OK, not an Israeli hashgocha...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 22, 2017, 09:11:08 PM
From DDMS:

Turkish offers freshly made kosher meals in all classes and they are highly regarded as well. They are made in Turkey and are kosher supervised by the OK.
-1 Its completely inedible!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 22, 2017, 09:12:08 PM
I saw a few people asked about KSML on TK, but I didn't see any replies. So, does anyone know if they have KSML, and which hashgocha it is, on JFK-IST-TLV, and the reverse? Thanks.
Attached is the Email response from the OK regarding KSML on TK:

"Hi,

We have a company Barinyurt Huzurevine Yardim Derneği İKT. İŞL. In Turkey that prepares Kosher meals for Turkish Airlines.

Every packaging / label  and filled tray needs the OK symbol to be certified."
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 22, 2017, 09:13:40 PM
Very nice. Thanks. Interesting that even ex-TLV it's OK, not an Israeli hashgocha...
Israeli Hashgacha on airlines is usually Badatz, so technically OK  is a downgrade.. (dont get the wrong feeling here, OK is a top notch Hashgacha!)

To your other point, the food is definitely not fresh, and far from edible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Iz on January 22, 2017, 09:20:57 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 22, 2017, 10:43:07 PM
To your other point, the food is definitely not fresh, and far from edible.

Picture? And what class J/Y?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 22, 2017, 10:46:03 PM
Picture? And what class J/Y?
Didnt take pics. J. (and it wasnt just a one time experience either.)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: joew on January 24, 2017, 01:38:52 PM
any clue who caters jet blue mint?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 24, 2017, 01:39:35 PM
any clue who caters jet blue mint?

Ex JFK is Borenstein on real dishes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: joew on January 24, 2017, 01:51:38 PM
Ex JFK is Borenstein on real dishes.
could you request Regal? (for hecsher reasons  ;))
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 24, 2017, 03:48:22 PM
JFK-IST-TLV on TK J:
JFK-IST Weiss (Tartikov and OU). No airline branding. Poorly packed.
Dinner: Appetizer had grilled chicken breast strips over salad (didn't try) and the rest didn't look very edible. I didn't even look at the hot course. I just gave everything to someone else that didn't have KSML on their reservation.
Breakfast: Danish (I think with blueberries) - left a lot to be desired. Hot course was omelette over potatoes. Omelette was dry (as expected) which was mitigated by putting some cream cheese over it, and potatoes were good (except that there was no salt used in cooking, or included with the KSML tray).
For some reason, Weiss decided that the hard clear platsic disposable cutlery included, needed to be sealed with a double seal (wrapped tightly in multiple layers on Saran Wrap, and sealed with a sticker) which made it very difficult to access (and caused some breakage in the process), if only they would wrap their plates so good, so they dont leak.


IST-TLV (A320 Fake J):
Well packed FRESH KSML (actually had a few slices of crispy fresh cucumber in the appetizer) from La Casa de Barinyurt catering service (OK supervision).
Appetizer was some hard cheeses, with some mezonos toast, and mezonos rolls, along with dried apricots. Good quality lox with fresh cucumber, tomato, and pickle. And half a green pepper stuffed with what looked like Kasha, but had pine nuts, and some other ingredients there too (not for every palette, but definitely interesting). Couldn't exactly discern what the desert was (some kind of pudding with a fruity flavor and orange rind - rather decent, also not for every palette, but definitely interesting). Hot course was fish sticks (not breaded, more like long fish balls) which were quite decent, with some roasted potatoes.
Also, importantly there was a note that included some informative Kashrus info.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/601f26d23f73166bfe98c83660ba579a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170124/0a399e59ce8bee49fb913c93c7a4ccd1.jpg)

It boggles my mind how TK can get FRESH KSML at IST, and out of NYC no airline serves FRESH KSML!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Iz on January 24, 2017, 03:59:17 PM
Thanks for the info, ExGingi.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 24, 2017, 04:37:24 PM
Thanks for the info, ExGingi.
Long haul they also served roasted nuts to everyone. We asked flight attendant to see package (which had only Turkish on it. I snapped a photo and sent to Rabbi Chitrik (once WiFi came on, which was quite a while into the flight) asking him if it's kosher. To which he responded לכאורה כשר. So we took a sealed package and nibbled on it through the flight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 24, 2017, 04:39:43 PM
Thanks for the info, ExGingi.
+1.
Any pics of the food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 24, 2017, 04:56:05 PM
+1.
Any pics of the food?
I am not a good photographer (especially using phones). I started the flight taking pictures of amenity kit and noise cancelling headphones, but when I saw the results of that I gave up photography for the flight. I will try bl"n on the way back next week. (Though I don't expect to encounter the Weiss variety).

Also sitting in fake J with a KSML tray doesn't leave much room for arm maneuvering in order to take pics, but since I thought it was worth posting about, I took along the certificate which I posted above. Luckily for me, I know Rabbi Chitrik personally, he is very knowledgeable in both Halacha and Kashrus (food preparation and manufacturing processes). I fully trust him. When I was discussing various shechitos with him once, I asked him what is used for the KSML ex IST, to which he responded that they only do Pareve and Milchig.

When I asked my BIL who flew TK J ex ATL if he had KSML, he replied "Gefilte Fish", I will just let you imagine the facial expression that accompanied that response.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 24, 2017, 04:58:41 PM
You should attend a photo DO :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 24, 2017, 05:02:40 PM
You should attend a photo DO :)
I would first need a time management DO in order to be able to make that happen  :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 24, 2017, 07:36:28 PM
could you request Regal? (for hecsher reasons  ;))

You can try to PUTPAC but most probably not.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 25, 2017, 07:57:35 AM



It boggles my mind how TK can get FRESH KSML at IST, and out of NYC no airline serves FRESH KSML!

Per LY (Borenstein) the reason is the food must go thru LSG/Gate gourmet and they are to blame.

When I got a really old expired meal I emailed both Borenstein and LSG, Borenstein told me they gave it over to LSG fresh, and LSG didn't want to answer
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 25, 2017, 08:29:52 AM

Per LY (Borenstein) the reason is the food must go thru LSG/Gate gourmet and they are to blame.

When I got a really old expired meal I emailed both Borenstein and LSG, Borenstein told me they gave it over to LSG fresh, and LSG didn't want to answer
So the bottom line is, it is the דייטשן who are at fault.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 26, 2017, 06:24:39 AM
AC YYZ-TLV is Hamasbia (Montreal Kosher). Appetizer was some lox and garbanzo bean salad (two separate things). Main course was chicken and rice. Not bad. Breakfast was a pareve omelette. Fair at best.  Kosher wine.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 26, 2017, 07:12:34 AM
AC YYZ-TLV is Hamasbia (Montreal Kosher). Appetizer was some lox and garbanzo bean salad (two separate things). Main course was chicken and rice. Not bad. Breakfast was a pareve omelette. Fair at best.  Kosher wine.
Plus they have available sandwiches in middle of the flight
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 26, 2017, 07:25:12 AM
Plus they have available sandwiches in middle of the flight
Nice. I didn't know that.  I will ask on the return.
My BOS-YYZ positioning flight served a nice looking blackened ahi plate to the other J passengers (see photo-- ⚠️ non-kosher). The FA showed me on his iPad he had other special meals indicated for other J pax but not me.  I asked the rep in the lounge about it but she was useless. Guess I should call and inquire? Anyone know if I can get KSML snack on that leg?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170126/44ad1264f7ce31173e8460e533cc81fb.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 26, 2017, 07:27:39 AM
Nice. I didn't know that.  I will ask on the return.
My BOS-YYZ positioning flight served a nice looking blackened ahi plate to the other J passengers (see photo-- ⚠️ non-kosher). The FA showed me on his iPad he had other special meals indicated for other J pax but not me.  I asked the rep in the lounge about it but she was useless. Guess I should call and inquire? Anyone know if I can get KSML snack on that leg?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170126/44ad1264f7ce31173e8460e533cc81fb.jpg)
By me that had it set out with all the nightly snacks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mbch on January 26, 2017, 12:34:55 PM
Yummy :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on January 26, 2017, 03:48:47 PM
Nice. I didn't know that.  I will ask on the return.
My BOS-YYZ positioning flight served a nice looking blackened ahi plate to the other J passengers (see photo-- ⚠️ non-kosher). The FA showed me on his iPad he had other special meals indicated for other J pax but not me.  I asked the rep in the lounge about it but she was useless. Guess I should call and inquire? Anyone know if I can get KSML snack on that leg?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170126/44ad1264f7ce31173e8460e533cc81fb.jpg)
That looks amazing.... true shame they can't get a Kosher meal like that.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mbch on January 26, 2017, 10:34:54 PM
Ok i have a bet with someone that i could actually get a good KSML in ANY class on any airline! Anyone want to give me advice as to what is the best chance at getting something good?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 26, 2017, 10:36:05 PM
Ok i have a bet with someone that i could actually get a good KSML in ANY class on any airline! Anyone want to give me advice as to what is the best chance at getting something good?
BA F ex-LHR, CX F ex-HKG, UA J ex-HNL, etc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mbch on January 26, 2017, 10:37:15 PM
Really BA F wouldn't have thought of that one.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 26, 2017, 11:04:31 PM
Really BA F wouldn't have thought of that one.
ex LHR is hermolis, the gold standard in airline food.

I'll post later pics if I remember.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on January 27, 2017, 01:22:59 AM
ex LHR is hermolis, the gold standard in airline food.

I'll post later pics if I remember.
Years ago in F my father was served lamb chops thru hermolis
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on January 27, 2017, 01:28:23 AM
BA F ex LHR
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PieRSquare on January 27, 2017, 02:30:40 AM
Singapore did alright in Y ex SIN
Title: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 29, 2017, 10:28:49 PM
TK TLV-IST in J.
KSML comes from IST and is fresh (not frozen) as evidenced by fresh crispy cucumber included.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/2f88e2511308a3f48bbc3354425e92e1.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/dfbb2cbaaee811c71ccf438d0df46606.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/995ec4285eb741cb10999941dd787d4a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/1edcbc80c18179cb7be5640c6d5d0a8c.jpg)
Cheese, fresh cherry tomatoes, cucumber sticks and some black olives.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/a465f8ce3cb02e6c12615df0d54ab4cc.jpg)
Crackers (tasted like they might have cheese as part of the dough.)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/1a847d26d2f14a4c6b74e6a6a82a687e.jpg)
Toast
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/96d05b9ca361700af497dd677ae6bd94.jpg)
Cake left a lot to be desired.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/6450a3222fc217ba1c86d53bd328a990.jpg)
Hot meal sealed.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/538f042a052ae41edfd4f97dfcdd861e.jpg)
Hot meal: vegetable quiche (very good, though very greasy - probably from the cheese) and lasagna.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170130/7934f6670f009c276ec387dc935618ca.jpg)
Jam and butter.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 30, 2017, 05:21:46 AM
By me that had it set out with all the nightly snacks
I just saw chips, fruit and candy bars.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on February 05, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
Anyone have info on the KSML JFK-ZRH on LX?

Also does IB TLV-MAD have a meal, if so is it any good? I'm on a 6:20a so I'd assume its breakfast.

Anyone have info on the KSML MAD-JFK on IB, a 12:45p flight which I'm assuming will be lunch.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mgarfin on February 05, 2017, 02:41:44 PM
What can I expect on AA JFK-SFO and LAX-JFK in J?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on February 05, 2017, 03:16:35 PM
What can I expect on AA JFK-SFO and LAX-JFK in J?

Ex JFK will be Borenstein.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on February 05, 2017, 03:17:29 PM
Anyone have info on the KSML JFK-ZRH on LX?

I recall it being a decent one.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2017, 03:42:22 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/aa3231251376527a4c5d0974e36544fb.png)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on February 16, 2017, 04:24:36 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/aa3231251376527a4c5d0974e36544fb.png)
I hate generic answers.
you took the time to write it
so we took the time to give you a generic answer.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on February 16, 2017, 05:26:55 PM
(https://i.gyazo.com/aa3231251376527a4c5d0974e36544fb.png)
געמאלן וואסער
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 17, 2017, 07:56:38 AM
Anyone is flying DL NYC<>LAX/SFO after 01MAR in Econ? Pls try to order a KSML and report back if you got it
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: EJB on February 17, 2017, 09:35:16 AM
Years ago in F my father was served lamb chops thru hermolis

Eh, I'd prefer the ribeye ex LHR. That's excellent
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on February 17, 2017, 11:10:08 AM
Anyone with AirBerlin experience JFK-TGL?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on February 18, 2017, 07:44:05 PM
געמאלן וואסער
+100000

These people are the worst. Sweet talk the whole email and move on.

And this is already GS. I'd bet a million dollars if you ever get a follow up email.

BTW @Dan, you probably know, GS can transfer you to live customer care, who I've had great experience with. You get their phone number and you can follow up with them.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JS69 on February 24, 2017, 09:07:11 AM
Anyone is flying DL NYC<>LAX/SFO after 01MAR in Econ? Pls try to order a KSML and report back if you got it

I am flying JFK-SEA in April. I called to request a kosher meal. This is all new to them so they had me on hold for 15 minutes trying to figure it out. As of now, you CAN'T request a KSML and they will only have 3 options. A breakfast sandwich, cheese & fruit plate and something that was also not kosher.....I will call after the March 1 roll out to see if options change.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 24, 2017, 09:09:01 AM
I am flying JFK-SEA in April. I called to request a kosher meal. This is all new to them so they had me on hold for 15 minutes trying to figure it out. As of now, you CAN'T request a KSML and they will only have 3 options. A breakfast sandwich, cheese & fruit plate and something that was also not kosher.....I will call after the March 1 roll out to see if options change.
SEA is only from April 24
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on February 24, 2017, 09:15:44 AM
Was able to request KSML for JFK to SFO in march.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 24, 2017, 09:26:40 AM
Was able to request KSML for JFK to SFO in march.
Correct, March 1 for JFK<>LAX/SFO, all others markets from Apr 24
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JS69 on February 24, 2017, 09:57:07 AM
Correct, March 1 for JFK<>LAX/SFO, all others markets from Apr 24

I see it now,

Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on February 24, 2017, 11:04:46 AM
Was able to request KSML for JFK to SFO in march.
By calling? Online?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on February 24, 2017, 02:07:55 PM
By calling? Online?

Online.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on February 26, 2017, 07:46:08 PM
Anyone have any idea what a DFW-LGA First class meal will be? (on Delta)(Class A)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on March 02, 2017, 01:37:33 AM
Anyone have any idea what a DFW-LGA First class meal will be? (on Delta)(Class A)
Just booked it for March 26th will update after with meal/pics
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on March 02, 2017, 01:50:59 AM
Also does anyone have experience with kosher meals on airlines out of DFW or any other city? How does that work in general  do they fly the meal in from NYC?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on March 05, 2017, 01:47:15 PM
Anyone is flying DL NYC<>LAX/SFO after 01MAR in Econ? Pls try to order a KSML and report back if you got it
Poor excuse for a "meal service".

Flights leaving before 9AM receive a breakfast. Kosher breakfast is comprised of a small chocolate danish and a cup of tropical fruit. Plus coffee, tea, sugar, cutlery etc. catered by Borenstein.

I'll attach pictures when I have a chance.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 05, 2017, 03:41:48 PM
Poor excuse for a "meal service".

Flights leaving before 9AM receive a breakfast. Kosher breakfast is comprised of a small chocolate danish and a cup of tropical fruit. Plus coffee, tea, sugar, cutlery etc. catered by Borenstein.

I'll attach pictures when I have a chance.

What were you expecting? They are not going to be offering hot meal to non kosher passengers either.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on March 05, 2017, 06:51:52 PM
Kosher meals are so limited we should talk
About which has anything decent  only.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on March 05, 2017, 11:56:07 PM
What were you expecting? They are not going to be offering hot meal to non kosher passengers either.
Maybe a sandwich?
If take off is at 8am EST which means you land around 3pm EST. Are you really supposed to just have a tiny danish and a cup of fruit in syrup?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 06, 2017, 07:29:40 AM
Maybe a sandwich?
If take off is at 8am EST which means you land around 3pm EST. Are you really supposed to just have a tiny danish and a cup of fruit in syrup?

They probably give a sandwich for departure after 11am.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: luckyluck on March 21, 2017, 12:36:34 AM
Traveling ewr-ory on british aka openskies. The online option to select special meals shows every type but not KSML. Any idea why?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on March 26, 2017, 12:40:11 PM
What's the KSML like for IB J MAD-JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on March 26, 2017, 01:58:47 PM
Delta One Ex-HNL is what caterer?
ETA: Regal garbage and not O'hau Kosher which is what I was hoping for
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on March 26, 2017, 02:54:42 PM
What does AZ have TLV-FCO-JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: a mirrer on March 27, 2017, 09:30:12 AM
What's the KSML like for IB J MAD-JFK?
i flew MAD-LAX in IB J and the food was from some swiss place and the tray of stuff was pretty good but the hot meal was regal style garbage
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on March 27, 2017, 12:43:30 PM
i flew MAD-LAX in IB J and the food was from some swiss place and the tray of stuff was pretty good but the hot meal was regal style garbage

That would be from here, in Italian speaking Switzerland. Last time I flew on IB in business class meals were from here. Fairly decent IMO. You can see pictures online.

http://www.rustichellikosher.com/

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on March 28, 2017, 03:13:13 PM
Any info on the Hashgacha and quality on AB (Air Berlin) TLV-TXL-JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 28, 2017, 06:25:59 PM
i flew MAD-LAX in IB J and the food was from some swiss place and the tray of stuff was pretty good but the hot meal was regal style garbage
That would be from here, in Italian speaking Switzerland. Last time I flew on IB in business class meals were from here. Fairly decent IMO. You can see pictures online.

http://www.rustichellikosher.com/


+1 and same on the analysis, hope his hashgocha (Rebbe of Biala) is up to par
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on March 29, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
+1 and same on the analysis, hope his hashgocha (Rebbe of Biala) is up to par

Just don't look too closely on the expiry date (year/decade..) of the hechsher on the website...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on March 29, 2017, 12:57:21 PM
Any info on the Hashgacha and quality on AB (Air Berlin) TLV-TXL-JFK?
Bump. Anybody know?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on April 05, 2017, 08:17:26 PM
What's the story with ordering kosher on a flight on pesach, will it be KfP or from the freezer from 6 months ago

Also what's the story with BYOK on pesach, am I allowed to warm it up in their oven (I'm thinking it shouldn't be any different from all year)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2017, 08:27:27 PM
1. Should be KFP, YMMV.
2. No issue.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on April 05, 2017, 11:31:39 PM
What does Norwegian serve ex JFK? Would it be KFP or do they serve Stogel-5-year-shelf-life style?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2017, 11:35:00 PM
Since when does Norwegian have KSMLs?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PieRSquare on April 05, 2017, 11:55:44 PM
AA Biz ex-NRT was "Fresh-Frozen" Stogel and the mains were edible
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on April 05, 2017, 11:58:25 PM
That would be from here, in Italian speaking Switzerland. Last time I flew on IB in business class meals were from here. Fairly decent IMO. You can see pictures online.

http://www.rustichellikosher.com/ (http://www.rustichellikosher.com/)
I flew this last week and the food was pretty good. Service was terrible, though.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on April 06, 2017, 12:11:41 AM
Since when does Norwegian have KSMLs?
I believe they have a variety of meals, specialty and regular for advance purchase. Asking for a friend.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on April 09, 2017, 05:41:21 PM
I believe they have a variety of meals, specialty and regular for advance purchase. Asking for a friend.
They have a wide variety of meals, none of them are kosher however (last I checked)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on April 12, 2017, 09:45:28 PM
Looked my my Isru Chag flight DL JFK-LAX and it let me order a KSML for economy.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 14, 2017, 12:25:40 AM
Looked my my Isru Chag flight DL JFK-LAX and it let me order a KSML for economy.

Been available since early March.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on April 14, 2017, 02:03:19 PM
Been available since early March.

Will there be a Chometz issue? Besides, what can I expext?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on April 14, 2017, 02:07:51 PM


Besides, what can I expext?

Not much.
If you're flight is before 9am, in economy, I got a cupcake and a fruit cup.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 14, 2017, 02:35:03 PM
Will there be a Chometz issue?

For isru chag flight? You might end up with a pesach meal, but hopefully a regular one.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on April 14, 2017, 02:42:13 PM
Flight is a bit after noon.

Would there be a problem with Chometz Sheovar Olov Hapesach?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on April 14, 2017, 04:04:36 PM
Flight is a bit after noon.

Would there be a problem with Chometz Sheovar Olov Hapesach?

If it was owned by the airline over Pesach, what's the issue?
If it was owned by the caterer, surely they'd be doing mechiras chometz
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on April 14, 2017, 04:12:00 PM
For isru chag flight? You might end up with a pesach meal, but hopefully a regular one.
Don't know about DL, but I was once served KFP Matzoh and Gefilta fish on AZ post Shavuos  :(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on April 14, 2017, 05:30:24 PM
Flight is a bit after noon.

Would there be a problem with Chometz Sheovar Olov Hapesach?
Never knew of this issue, is KSML even
 ראוי לאכילת כלב
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on April 14, 2017, 06:08:36 PM
Never knew of this issue, is KSML even
 ראוי לאכילת כלב

Gevalt!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on April 19, 2017, 01:18:39 PM
What does AF have JFK-CDG-TLV? Class N and L
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on April 19, 2017, 01:33:55 PM
What does AF have JFK-CDG-TLV? Class N and L
JFK-CDG Is OU iirc. I don't think we got anything on the second leg.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on April 19, 2017, 02:07:33 PM
DL 423.

Got served a Borenstein KFP "Cold Snack" which consisted of a slice of chocolate cake and some concoction of chicken and two olives which hadn't been pitted.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JS69 on April 19, 2017, 03:44:19 PM
Flew CX888 from YVR- JFK on Chol Hamoed. was served a KFP meal from Omnitsky's in Vancouver. The mashed potato & chicken dish was actually pretty good. Served with matzah, cucumber salad and cake. This meal must have cost the airlines mucho $$$
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: YMW on April 19, 2017, 11:00:13 PM
Flew CX888 from YVR- JFK on Chol Hamoed. was served a KFP meal from Omnitsky's in Vancouver. The mashed potato & chicken dish was actually pretty good. Served with matzah, cucumber salad and cake. This meal must have cost the airlines mucho $$$
In which class?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on April 20, 2017, 01:30:48 AM
WHat do they have OS JFK-VIE-TLV in J?
WHat do they have LX TLV-ZRH-JFK in J?

ETA: From some searching it seems at least at some point OS JFK-VIE was Borenstein and LX was Schalom. Is that still the case? What about VIE-TLV?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on April 20, 2017, 07:22:29 AM
WHat do they have OS JFK-VIE-TLV in J?
WHat do they have LX TLV-ZRH-JFK in J?

ETA: From some searching it seems at least at some point OS JFK-VIE was Borenstein and LX was Schalom. Is that still the case? What about VIE-TLV?
VIE-TLV local from VIE, very good
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on April 20, 2017, 07:57:38 AM
VIE-TLV local from VIE, very good
Thanks. Do you know the hechsher?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on April 20, 2017, 08:02:16 AM
Thanks. Do you know the hechsher?
Schwartz from VIE
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JS69 on April 20, 2017, 09:36:41 AM
In which class?

Good ol back of the bus economy.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on April 20, 2017, 06:31:47 PM
LHR - TLV on BA in Y
Just got a KFP meal from Hermolis.
Lots of food, but not wonderful (as was frozen).

Chinese chicken/mashed potato (daughter got beef strogannof + mashed potato)
Smoked salmon started + various salads + lemon
packet of potato sticks (snack)
large piece of cake + parev cream + apple sauce
Oracle juice
bottle of water
chocolate
teabag
pack of coffee
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on April 20, 2017, 07:34:07 PM
LHR - TLV on BA in Y
Just got a KFP meal from Hermolis.
Lots of food, but not wonderful (as was frozen).

Chinese chicken/mashed potato (daughter got beef strogannof + mashed potato)
Smoked salmon started + various salads + lemon
packet of potato sticks (snack)
large piece of cake + parev cream + apple sauce
Oracle juice
bottle of water
chocolate
teabag
pack of coffee
All in one meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on April 21, 2017, 05:20:07 AM
All in one meal?
Yes
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yosel on May 01, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
what KSML do we get AMM to NYC? on RJ
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: springles on May 01, 2017, 02:18:52 PM
what KSML do we get AMM to NYC? on RJ
IIRC it was Tamam food on the AMM-JFK route. Was different on the JFK-AMM, I believe it was Weiss
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: a mirrer on May 03, 2017, 04:15:07 AM
tragic
Frum Man Suddenly Dies On Flight From Madrid To Miami (http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/featured/1268752/frum-man-suddenly-dies-flight-madrid-miami-trip-newly-married-wife.html)
Quote
His wife says he may have been allergic to certain food that was inside his Kosher meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on May 18, 2017, 04:03:42 AM
What KSML does TK serve ex :
1. JFK
2. ORD
3. BOS 

THANKS
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 18, 2017, 04:54:49 AM
Flew CX888 from YVR- JFK on Chol Hamoed. was served a KFP meal from Omnitsky's in Vancouver. The mashed potato & chicken dish was actually pretty good. Served with matzah, cucumber salad and cake. This meal must have cost the airlines mucho $$$
CX probably has a contract to pay a fixed price around the year
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 18, 2017, 05:57:11 AM
Latam uses Kosher4U ex-JFK sources from Borenstein.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 23, 2017, 09:42:05 AM
I know many consider Hermolis to be the gold standard for KSML. Haven't had that in many years (since the introduction of outrageous YQ on BA). I would definitely nominate La Casa (out of Istanbul, served on TK ex IST and ex TLV) as a runner-up, if not serious contender.

Fresh meals, excellent presentation and packing, high Kashrus standards (and what I consider a plus, as it could satisfy a broader audience from a Kashrus perspective - only dairy and pareve served), all ingredients listed  - no guesswork required.

Attached pictures from recent IST-JFK. Other than dessert, everything was excellent, including fish which didn't have a "fishy" taste.

(https://preview.ibb.co/jFWPna/IMG_5138.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jsNVSa)
(https://preview.ibb.co/nxnKLv/IMG_5139.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kPCm0v)
(https://preview.ibb.co/duR77a/IMG_5140.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iBob0v)
(https://preview.ibb.co/nkOb0v/IMG_5141.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j3LOfv)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 23, 2017, 10:36:56 AM
Yes, they are very good usually. I never received food that was manufactured more than one day before the flight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on May 23, 2017, 12:15:32 PM
Yes, they are very good usually. I never received food that was manufactured more than one day before the flight.

What does TK serve from JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 23, 2017, 12:29:36 PM
What does TK serve from JFK?
Whatever it is, it's nothing to write home about. Business KSML looks like Economy with a sticker that says business slapped on it.

It's unfortunate that one cannot get a decent FRESH KSML out of NYC airports.

I guess since IST-TLV is such a short hop, they can even get the KSML for the TLV-IST leg sourced at IST as a fresh meal (better IMHO than Hamasbia ex-TLV that most airlines serve).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on May 24, 2017, 01:40:29 PM
Anyone knows what AF serves ex CDG for KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on May 24, 2017, 01:44:37 PM
Anyone knows what AF serves ex CDG for KSML?

bdatz amsterdam

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on May 24, 2017, 01:54:18 PM

Thanks!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 24, 2017, 09:04:00 PM
AV served Stogel meals - packed in January 2017 - on CUZ-BOG and BOG-JFK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: avremie on May 25, 2017, 09:08:29 AM
What does AA serve ex CDG?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on May 26, 2017, 02:09:47 AM
What does TK  serve ex ORD C C class?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on May 26, 2017, 12:28:48 PM
Anyone knows what AF serves ex CDG for KSML?

No-one done it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on May 26, 2017, 01:17:46 PM
No-one done it?
You quoted the wrong post.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bigG on May 27, 2017, 03:29:28 PM
I'm flying
JNB-SEZ-AUH-JFK in cattle class
Any one know where I'll get KSML
and how is? TIA
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on May 27, 2017, 11:44:20 PM
I'm flying
JNB-SEZ-AUH-JFK in cattle class
Any one know where I'll get KSML
and how is? TIA
I don't have any info for you but if you write which airline you'll be flying maybe someone will be able to help.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bigG on May 28, 2017, 12:41:44 AM
I don't have any info for you but if you write which airline you'll be flying maybe someone will be able to help.
Air seychelles and EY
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: since1492 on May 28, 2017, 02:21:36 AM
did anyone hear of b'datz of Russia?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on May 28, 2017, 03:17:20 AM
did anyone hear of b'datz of Russia?
Do you mean Rav Berel Lazar?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: since1492 on May 28, 2017, 03:18:31 AM
Do you mean Rav Berel Lazar?
yes
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: User6669 on May 28, 2017, 03:39:45 AM
yes
Should be fine.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bakosho on May 29, 2017, 04:06:06 AM
JFK - TLV direct on Delta, whose kosher meal do they serve and what hashgacha?

TLV - JFK direct on Delta, whose kosher meal do they serve and what hashgacha?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bigG on May 29, 2017, 09:11:06 AM
Air seychelles and EY
Anyone know what the ksml will look like from auh on ey in cattle ?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 29, 2017, 11:25:38 AM
Anyone know what the ksml will look like from auh on ey in cattle ?

Stogel.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yuds70 on June 04, 2017, 12:51:10 PM
United follows Delta and AA in serving Free meals, however only to economy+ passengers on flights between JFK/EWR-LAX/SFO and More

Alot of Details in this article:

https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/united-airlines-is-going-to-start-serving-free-hot-food-to-economy-passengers-bu.html (https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/united-airlines-is-going-to-start-serving-free-hot-food-to-economy-passengers-bu.html)

Hopefully more airlines (JetBlue and Alaska/Virgin ) will soon follow.

ETA:
AA has also been serving meals since May 1st.
United will be serving only to economy+
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on June 04, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
United follows Delta in serving Free meals to economy passengers on flights between JFK/EWR-LAX/SFO and More

Alot of Details in this article:

https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/united-airlines-is-going-to-start-serving-free-hot-food-to-economy-passengers-bu.html (https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/united-airlines-is-going-to-start-serving-free-hot-food-to-economy-passengers-bu.html)

IMO more airlines will soon follow.
UA will serve in E+ only
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yuds70 on June 04, 2017, 01:25:07 PM
UA will serve in E+ only
My bad, but this IMO will start a trend that may soon be available to all economy passengers.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on June 04, 2017, 01:31:59 PM
My bad, but this IMO will start a trend that may soon be available to all economy passengers.

AA followed delta to serve to reg economy.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 04, 2017, 09:05:17 PM
United follows Delta and AA in serving Free meals, however only to economy+ passengers on flights between JFK/EWR-LAX/SFO and More

Alot of Details in this article:

https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/united-airlines-is-going-to-start-serving-free-hot-food-to-economy-passengers-bu.html (https://www.inc.com/chris-matyszczyk/united-airlines-is-going-to-start-serving-free-hot-food-to-economy-passengers-bu.html)

Hopefully more airlines (JetBlue and Alaska/Virgin ) will soon follow.

ETA:
AA has also been serving meals since May 1st.
United will be serving only to economy+
United doesn't fly to JFK
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yuds70 on June 04, 2017, 09:11:47 PM
United doesn't fly to JFK
I'm aware. I was giving examples of which destination airports currently offer meals. Whether Delta, AA or United.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on June 06, 2017, 03:47:19 AM
On OS JFK-TLV in J they served Weiss. First they brought out a "snack"which was a roll with deli
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170606/7b77c994abffadf229302862ddd09442.jpg)
Almost immediately afterwards they brought out the meal which was a corn salad with cold grilled chicken on top and a hot pan of roast beef with bowties broccoli and carrots. I found it to be very good by KSML standards.


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Breakfast was a bagel and an omelet with potatoes

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Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on June 06, 2017, 07:17:46 AM
If only more airlines would switch to Weiss from Borenstein. Meals look decent.

An exception to this would be Jetblue Mint, which serves a generous multiple course Borenstein meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 06, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
If only more airlines would switch to Weiss from Borenstein. Meals look decent.
I don't know much, or anything about Borenstein, but I did meet the owner of Weiss at a catered getaway several years ago, and would definitely trust him from a Kashrus standpoint.

That being said...

On OS JFK-TLV in J they served Weiss. First they brought out a "snack"which was a roll with deli
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Almost immediately afterwards they brought out the meal which was a corn salad with cold grilled chicken on top and a hot pan of roast beef with bowties broccoli and carrots. I found it to be very good by KSML standards.

I think Weiss packaging leaves something to be desired. Notice how the cutlery is heavily wrapped with stretch wrap. I've had that one before, and it was quite a challenge to open the wrapping (which IIRC was even on disposable cutlery!)

Also, I think it would be wiser (pun intended) if at least some of the meal would be pareve, as someone who wouldn't want to eat fleishig wouldn't find much to eat in this meal.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on June 06, 2017, 11:23:49 AM
I don't know much, or anything about Borenstein, but I did meet the owner of Weiss at a catered getaway several years ago, and would definitely trust him from a Kashrus standpoint.

That being said...

I think Weiss packaging leaves something to be desired. Notice how the cutlery is heavily wrapped with stretch wrap. I've had that one before, and it was quite a challenge to open the wrapping (which IIRC was even on disposable cutlery!)

Also, I think it would be wiser (pun intended) if at least some of the meal would be pareve, as someone who wouldn't want to eat fleishig wouldn't find much to eat in this meal.
I fully agree about the packaging. The flight attendants brought me a scissors.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 06, 2017, 11:47:12 AM
I fully agree about the packaging. The flight attendants brought me a scissors.
Someone needs to tell Weiss about heat seal bags, it will probably even save them time and money in the long run, and avoid these kinds of problems. They are Chassidish, so I guess no website, fb, or anything of the sort. Borenstein is owned by ELAL (enough said?), found this FB page (https://www.facebook.com/pg/Borenstein-Caterers-152419504800447/reviews/) with an interesting interaction between the a retired CEO of Borenstein and an ELAL pilot.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on June 07, 2017, 11:38:04 AM
What does TK  serve ex ORD C C class?

PLEASE!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on June 07, 2017, 07:42:24 PM
Realized I didn't post VIE>TLV.

Bernholtz
Hechsher Rabbi A. Y. Schwartz from Vienna-I am told by someone who I consider to be a good source that he is a very reliable hechsher.

The only thing I ate from it were the hot dish and the brownie. It was a baked chicken cutlet with mashed potatoes. Nothing to write home about but certainly edible. Tasted like the type of thing served at a cheap catered bar-mitzva or a yeshiva with decent food.

In the triangle bowls are tuna (which looked totally unappetizing) and a brownie which was good.
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Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on June 08, 2017, 06:28:13 PM
LX TLV-ZRH
Breakfast from Masbia
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ZRH-JFK
Schalom also under hechsher of R' A Y Schwartz
Was excellent.

Lunch
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Before landing
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Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 08, 2017, 06:42:22 PM
Last one looks like some cheese hiding under the meat ;)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on June 08, 2017, 08:03:28 PM
Last one looks like some cheese hiding under the meat ;)

Lol...I think it's mayo but it doesn't address that the meat really looks like canned SPAM  ;D
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on June 08, 2017, 08:07:28 PM
Last one looks like some cheese hiding under the meat ;)
It is some sort of dressing
Lol...I think it's mayo but it doesn't address that the meat really looks like canned SPAM  ;D
LOL I guess that is what swiss deli looks like.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shalumov on June 09, 2017, 02:34:46 PM
What does ElAl (I know  :( but my excuse is that the ticket cost me nearly 1/2 price) serves on EWK to TLV and how is the quality of food?
Also, would ElAl allow to heat the food, we normally order from Pomegranate?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 09, 2017, 02:44:28 PM
What does ElAl (I know  :( but my excuse is that the ticket cost me nearly 1/2 price) serves on EWK to TLV and how is the quality of food?
Also, would ElAl allow to heat the food, we normally order from Pomegranate?
Which class of service?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 09, 2017, 02:56:16 PM
What does ElAl (I know  :( but my excuse is that the ticket cost me nearly 1/2 price) serves on EWK to TLV and how is the quality of food?
Also, would ElAl allow to heat the food, we normally order from Pomegranate?
Wouldn't ELAL by definition serve Borenstein, which they own?

Without knowing anything, I would think ELAL would be the last airline to be expected to heat any food that you bring (and rightfully so - if they consider all their food to be Kosher, why would they allow anything from the outside to go into their ovens, unless their own Rabbi was there to tell them it's OK).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shalumov on June 09, 2017, 03:53:50 PM
Which class of service?

W and N
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on June 09, 2017, 07:52:54 PM
W and N
Borenstein except if you ordered Regal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on June 09, 2017, 07:54:42 PM


What does ElAl (I know  :( but my excuse is that the ticket cost me nearly 1/2 price)

And people here need to stop excusing themselves for flying LY, they are an airline Good and Bad as all the others out there.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PieRSquare on June 13, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
What does ElAl (I know  :( but my excuse is that the ticket cost me nearly 1/2 price) serves on EWK to TLV and how is the quality of food?
Also, would ElAl allow to heat the food, we normally order from Pomegranate?
Where are you flying on ElAl that you need POM meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shaulyaakov on June 13, 2017, 03:58:59 PM
Borenstein except if you ordered Regal

Regal is just Borenstein with a different label and Hechsher.

Most food items are the same/very similar, except the bread, since they use "mezonos rolls"
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 14, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
What's with NYC-LAX? Which airlines allow KSMLs in coach now?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on June 14, 2017, 11:38:23 AM
What's with NYC-LAX? Which airlines allow KSMLs in coach now?

Delta.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on June 14, 2017, 11:44:00 AM
Anyway to request KSML on CX J within 24 hours of the flight?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 14, 2017, 05:43:32 PM
Delta.
Leaves a lot to be desired
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on June 14, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
Leaves a lot to be desired

:) maybe for lunch or dinner it's better.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 14, 2017, 08:23:03 PM
:) maybe for lunch or dinner it's better.
I tried timing my flights right to try out all options but the weather wasn't working in my favor
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2017, 09:44:54 AM
Any pics of Delta's JFK-LAX "meal"?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 15, 2017, 04:27:27 PM
Any pics of Delta's JFK-LAX "meal"?
I have pics of the breakfast they serve for flights that take off before 9am. They're too big for Tapatalk but I can email them to you.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 20, 2017, 12:03:32 AM
Any pics of Delta's JFK-LAX "meal"?
Finally got to my computer.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/25tfhvs.jpg)

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Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2017, 07:25:12 AM
Ridiculous
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 20, 2017, 07:42:00 AM
Ridiculous
At least it's kosher (maybe).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Welder on June 20, 2017, 07:52:59 AM
Borenstein is owned by ELAL (enough said?), found this FB page (https://www.facebook.com/pg/Borenstein-Caterers-152419504800447/reviews/) with an interesting interaction between the a retired CEO of Borenstein and an ELAL pilot.

Lol, I love the Israeli snarkiness.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 20, 2017, 08:24:46 AM
Ridiculous

Leaves a lot to be desired
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on June 28, 2017, 09:28:59 AM
Anyone know who provides the KSMLs in BA Club World/Business from TLV to LHR? Is it Hermolis or the Israeli garbage?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: a mirrer on June 28, 2017, 09:31:06 AM
Anyone know who provides the KSMLs in BA Club World/Business from TLV to LHR? Is it Hermolis or the Israeli garbage?
israeli
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yitzy93 on June 28, 2017, 09:33:44 AM
israeli
:'(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on June 28, 2017, 05:42:55 PM
israeli
actually very good meal
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on June 28, 2017, 06:26:33 PM
Hamasbia makes great meals for J/F
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 28, 2017, 06:49:14 PM
Hamasbia makes great meals for J/F
+1 stick with the fish though.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 28, 2017, 06:50:21 PM
+1 stick with the fish though.
I believe only ELAL gives you a choice.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 28, 2017, 06:50:59 PM
I believe only ELAL gives you a choice.
-1
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 28, 2017, 06:53:16 PM
-1
Which other airlines let you order a kosher fish meal, and how would you do it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 28, 2017, 07:02:56 PM
Which other airlines let you order a kosher fish meal, and how would you do it?
Cant order in advance, but they give you the option on board.

UA for one.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 28, 2017, 07:05:06 PM
Cant order in advance, but they give you the option on board.

UA for one.
Only ex-TLV? Only in J?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 28, 2017, 07:06:00 PM
Only ex-TLV? Only in J?
Yes. Yes.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 28, 2017, 07:06:48 PM
Just had a tuna sandwich from Stogel. Expires 04/04/2018.

Tastes like it's from 04/04/2016.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on June 28, 2017, 07:17:23 PM
Just had a tuna sandwich from Stogel. Expires 04/04/2018.

Tastes like it's from 04/04/2016.
ALOL.

Then on second thought, isn't Stogel food supposed to be the Kosher version of doomsday food, where people store food that's supposed to have a shelf life of decades? Your version would only have a 2 year life.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on June 28, 2017, 07:20:23 PM
ALOL.

Then on second thought, isn't Stogel food supposed to be the Kosher version of doomsday food, where people store food that's supposed to have a shelf life of decades? Your version would only have a 2 year life.
When I flew from ICN-PNH the meal I got from Stogel had a 5 year shelf life.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on June 28, 2017, 08:47:35 PM
Which other airlines let you order a kosher fish meal, and how would you do it?
Swiss
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on June 28, 2017, 09:56:21 PM
Which other airlines let you order a kosher fish meal, and how would you do it?
And VA even in economy
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on June 29, 2017, 08:24:18 AM
Anyone know who provides the KSMLs in BA Club World/Business from TLV to LHR? Is it Hermolis or the Israeli garbage?
It is Hamasbia, from Israel, and is DEFINITELY NOT GARBAGE!

I have found both their breakfasts, and even more so their lunch/dinner meals to be quite good as airline food goes. Definitely better than the Borenstein meals that BA get from New York (why do EL AL get better meals from Borenstein though?)

On both Club World and First they usually offer a choice of hot main course. The beef is usually extremely tasty and the fish would probably be good but suffers considerably from airline reheating and ends up pretty dry.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on June 29, 2017, 09:16:09 AM
It is Hamasbia, from Israel, and is DEFINITELY NOT GARBAGE!

I have found both their breakfasts, and even more so their lunch/dinner meals to be quite good as airline food goes. Definitely better than the Borenstein meals that BA get from New York (why do EL AL get better meals from Borenstein though?)

On both Club World and First they usually offer a choice of hot main course. The beef is usually extremely tasty and the fish would probably be good but suffers considerably from airline reheating and ends up pretty dry.
I learned from LY, Borenstein is not allowed to deliver to the airport, it has to go thru LSG/Flying Foods etc, so it's up to them to deliver it on time, and basically I received in AA F a meal that was months behind it's expiration date. Borenstein told me to contact LSG which I did and they just pleaded the fifth
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on June 29, 2017, 04:28:08 PM
Swiss

Singapore allow you to choose kosher vegetarian
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on July 18, 2017, 05:28:04 PM
How/what is the KSML AA in J SFO-JFK? If it makes a difference its a red-eye departing 10p.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on July 18, 2017, 05:28:28 PM
How/what is the KSML AA in J SFO-JFK? If it makes a difference its a red-eye departing 10p.

Borenstein.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: dpk4588 on July 18, 2017, 05:31:35 PM
Borenstein.
Thanks. I wasn't sure if they had it ex-SFO too or just ex-JFK.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on July 18, 2017, 06:34:22 PM
Thanks. I wasn't sure if they had it ex-SFO too or just ex-JFK.

Both.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ValueFlyer on July 20, 2017, 06:14:28 AM
If anyone has recent experience: does United still offer kosher wine on their TLV nonstop flights or did this stop years ago?

Cant find anything on the topic more recently than 2014....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 20, 2017, 06:24:21 AM
Stopped years ago AFAIK
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 20, 2017, 07:56:45 AM
Not sure about wine but ex TLV UA serves very elaborate multi course meals with nice dishes etc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on July 20, 2017, 09:10:55 AM
If anyone has recent experience: does United still offer kosher wine on their TLV nonstop flights or did this stop years ago?

Cant find anything on the topic more recently than 2014....
You can bring a empty water bottle and fill up in the lounge before your flight
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on July 20, 2017, 09:49:13 AM
Years ago in F my father was served lamb chops thru hermolis
I had lamb. MLE-SIN. It was incredible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on July 26, 2017, 06:00:43 PM
D8 SWF-EDI?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on July 27, 2017, 07:32:26 AM
Years ago in F my father was served lamb chops thru hermolis
I had lamb chops in F from London thru Hermolis last week. I also had a fabulous medium rare steak from them 3 weeks ago, and some pretty good lemon sole last night. Yes, they are indeed VERY good!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on July 27, 2017, 07:45:11 AM
I had lamb chops in F from London thru Hermolis last week. I also had a fabulous medium rare steak from them 3 weeks ago, and some pretty good lemon sole last night. Yes, they are indeed VERY good!

Any pics?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 27, 2017, 08:24:20 AM
Hermolis is very hit or miss. I had 3 bad meals from them a few weeks ago on ET
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on July 27, 2017, 10:39:39 AM
Any pics?
I am quite happy to post pictures, but cannot work out how to do it here!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: as2 on July 27, 2017, 11:07:02 AM


I am quite happy to post pictures, but cannot work out how to do it here!

Read this (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=46084.0) for instructions.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on July 27, 2017, 11:29:30 AM
OK. Let's hope this works. Here are my BA F food photos. All Hermolis from LHR.

Amuse bouche:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15769-amuse-bouche.jpg)

Marinaded salmon starter:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15677-img-3170.jpg)

Cold salmon starter:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15770-cold-salmon-starter.jpg)

Salt beef and potato salad starter:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15734-salt-beef.jpeg)

Medium rare steak:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15657-img-4744.jpg)

Lamb chops:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15733-lamb-chops.jpeg)

Stuffed lemon sole (9 days):
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15771-lemon-sole-perfectly-cooked-vegetables-al-dente.jpg)

Apple pie dessert:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15681-img-3175.jpg)

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 27, 2017, 11:32:34 AM
Good Stuff!

Anyone have copy of UA Polaris Kosher Menu ex-TLV?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: brodes18 on July 27, 2017, 11:33:06 AM
Wow, that looks better than any other KSML I have ever seen!

Did it taste fresh?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2017, 11:34:22 AM
Anyone have copy of UA Polaris Kosher Menu ex-TLV?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 27, 2017, 11:35:31 AM


Meh. Still prefer KDL
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2017, 11:36:05 AM
Quote
Dear Mr. Eleff,

Thank you for your email.

We have had other passengers request Kosher wines on this route.

We did contact the new catering manager a couple of months ago about
this but he did not indicate if he decided to offer this.

I will forward your request again to his team.  We do make changes to
our offerings based upon customer feedback.

We appreciate your business as a valued Global Services member.

Sincerely,

Tina Stauber
Global Services Customer Care
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 27, 2017, 11:36:21 AM
OK. Let's hope this works. Here are my BA F food photos. All Hermolis from LHR.

did it come double wrapped?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 27, 2017, 11:37:50 AM
OK. Let's hope this works. Here are my BA F food photos. All Hermolis from LHR.
Amazing!
If only they didn't have YQ and had a better hard product...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on July 27, 2017, 12:39:07 PM
Wow, that looks better than any other KSML I have ever seen!

Did it taste fresh?

Definitely. Of course, these things are a little hit or miss but these were my last 3 meals on BA's F class from LHR, which are fresh Hermolis.

did it come double wrapped?

Of course. If you want they will plate it for you, but that means they will often inadvertently use their own utensils (the kosher pack from Hermolis contains one brand new BA plate, sealed). Otherwise they will bring you the foil containers and you plate the main course yourself.

The steak in the picture really was amazing. And medium rare was great (although I guess many more heimishe customers would have told them it was not cooked properly ... read on later for more). The lamb chops were also excellent. I would have preferred them medium but they were medium-well. Big deal, they were delicious and tender anyway. The fish really surprised me as I really didn't expect such a good fish main course for the 9 days. Full marks again. The vegetables that came with it would not have been out of place in a good restaurant. Clearly fresh (probably flash cooked) and when served (properly hot) were perfectly al dente. Amazing for airline food. Mind you, my rather more 'heimishe' neighbour complained to me that the vegetables were 'not properly cooked' ...

As for the starters, The marinaded salmon comes up quite often. Served on a bed of quinoa and beetroot. Very good indeed. Likewise the salt beef (what Americans call 'corned beef') with potato salad, which doesn't look that exciting visually but tastes wonderful.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on July 27, 2017, 06:01:41 PM
OK. Let's hope this works. Here are my BA F food photos. All Hermolis from LHR.

Amuse bouche:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15769-amuse-bouche.jpg)

Marinaded salmon starter:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15677-img-3170.jpg)

Cold salmon starter:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15770-cold-salmon-starter.jpg)

Salt beef and potato salad starter:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15734-salt-beef.jpeg)

Medium rare steak:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15657-img-4744.jpg)

Lamb chops:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15733-lamb-chops.jpeg)

Stuffed lemon sole (9 days):
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15771-lemon-sole-perfectly-cooked-vegetables-al-dente.jpg)

Apple pie dessert:
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/mikebg-albums-ba-food-picture15681-img-3175.jpg)
You got to be kidding me.

That is for sure the best ksml ever served on a flight.

Hands down winner.

Well done.

I've been served lamb stir fry Many many many many times. But always out of a tin.


And never ever anything like above.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: nobiggy on July 27, 2017, 06:16:36 PM
You got to be kidding me.

That is for sure the best ksml ever served on a flight.

Hands down winner.

Well done.

I've been served lamb stir fry Many many many many times. But always out of a tin.


And never ever anything like above.

I thought only QF ex AUS serves real dishes and silverware.
Title: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on July 27, 2017, 06:18:59 PM
I thought only QF ex AUS serves real dishes and silverware.
I've had real dishes on ua JF before nyc-pek


But food quality was not to be compared.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on July 27, 2017, 07:11:13 PM
LH also serves real dishes. It's not a big deal for them. They basically send new dishes to the kosher caterer who toivels it and then it goes back to the regular dishes inventory.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 27, 2017, 07:26:52 PM
@mikebg nice looking food. Did you plate it yourself or did the FA do it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on July 27, 2017, 07:44:14 PM
I thought only QF ex AUS serves real dishes and silverware.
I had on LX and OS
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on July 27, 2017, 07:44:56 PM
LH also serves real dishes. It's not a big deal for them. They basically send new dishes to the kosher caterer who toivels it and then it goes back to the regular dishes inventory.
Why would they need to toivel the airline's dishes?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on July 27, 2017, 07:49:20 PM
Why would they need to toivel the airline's dishes?

I also wondered the same thing, but that's what they wrote.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on July 27, 2017, 07:59:25 PM
I thought only QF ex AUS serves real dishes and silverware.

B6 Mint does too.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 27, 2017, 08:01:28 PM
I thought only QF ex AUS serves real dishes and silverware.

Just had real dishes yesterday UA F
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Ploni3 on July 27, 2017, 08:09:03 PM
AC ex YYZ also
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on July 27, 2017, 08:20:47 PM
From the looks of it we should be seeing which don't. It will probably be the same for any airline that has a J KSML
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Buruch on July 27, 2017, 09:21:58 PM
Dishes may be nice, but it's the food that really stands out here. Almost like some of the non-Jewish TRs.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on July 28, 2017, 01:32:25 AM
You got to be kidding me.

That is for sure the best ksml ever served on a flight.

Hands down winner.
Just to clarify: The main courses were from three separate flights! My more recent three in fact (over the last 2-3 months). I never had three large main courses like that for one meal!

@mikebgDid you plate it yourself or did the FA do it?
Depends. If I am convinced they will do it properly, only with the Hermolis utensils, I let them do it. Otherwise I do it. In the pictures I posted, the steak and lamb chops were plated by the FA, the fish by me (that's why it looks a bit of a mess ...

Dishes may be nice, but it's the food that really stands out here. Almost like some of the non-Jewish TRs.
To be honest, and having read many BA-related postings (not just Trip reports) I would say that it is considerably better than what BA serves in F most times. Mostly the regulars warn not to choose the "BA nuked fillet steak ..."

On a related note, BA has excellent craft beer (Tribute) which is a great replacement for wine with the meal, and a Cointreau does very well instead of dessert wine.

Why would they need to toivel the airline's dishes?
Probably because the kosher caterer has to BUY the dishes from BA's supplier, which makes them theirs, so they need to be toiveled. If they were borrowed they wouldn't need it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2017, 01:33:10 AM

Seems like they rotate the menu. Attached is what I got. And it was as bad as it sounds.. Your menu looks a bit better..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on July 28, 2017, 09:16:39 AM
Probably because the kosher caterer has to BUY the dishes from BA's supplier, which makes them theirs, so they need to be toiveled. If they were borrowed they wouldn't need it.
Why would they need to buy it? Don't they end up in BA inventory?
Title: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: harrym on July 28, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
SQ F X-LHR also serves multi course fresh Hermolis.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on July 29, 2017, 05:26:27 PM
Why would they need to buy it? Don't they end up in BA inventory?

Good point.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on July 29, 2017, 10:11:34 PM
Flying UA J ex DUB, any idea what to expect?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on July 29, 2017, 11:14:03 PM
SQ F X-LHR also serves multi course fresh Hermolis.
Almost everyone serves hermolis ex-lhr.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 30, 2017, 10:32:20 AM
Depends. If I am convinced they will do it properly, only with the Hermolis utensils, I let them do it. Otherwise I do it. In the pictures I posted, the steak and lamb chops were plated by the FA, the fish by me (that's why it looks a bit of a mess ...
I assume they have to plate it infront of you, right? How do they pull that off on a tiny tray table?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on July 30, 2017, 12:36:53 PM
I assume they have to plate it infront of you, right? How do they pull that off on a tiny tray table?
They plate it in the galley. Hermolis give them the whole kit needed for it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on July 30, 2017, 12:38:43 PM
Anyone with recent experience on CX F ex-JFK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on July 30, 2017, 12:43:21 PM
They plate it in the galley. Hermolis give them the whole kit needed for it.
So I guess you would need to go to the galley to watch them.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 30, 2017, 01:02:41 PM
Anyone have experience w Air Europa ex-MAD in J?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on July 31, 2017, 12:17:38 AM
Seems like they rotate the menu. Attached is what I got. And it was as bad as it sounds.. Your menu looks a bit better..
Why is halva served so much.

You know we're Jewish we got that. We don't only eat Jewish foods.

Simple chocolate cake would be delightful
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on July 31, 2017, 12:22:19 AM
This is a long shot but does anyone know what SK serves in J ex-IAD?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on July 31, 2017, 12:59:35 AM
any other options in flatbush to buy travel meals besides pomegranate?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cholent on July 31, 2017, 01:21:18 AM
Seems like they rotate the menu. Attached is what I got. And it was as bad as it sounds.. Your menu looks a bit better..
I have to say that is an extremely unappetizing menu
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on July 31, 2017, 06:41:59 AM
any other options in flatbush to buy travel meals besides pomegranate?
plenty what exactly are you looking for?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on July 31, 2017, 09:09:41 AM
plenty what exactly are you looking for?
similar idea, prepackaged food that can easily be heated and tastes good
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: @Yehuda on July 31, 2017, 02:01:37 PM
So I guess you would need to go to the galley to watch them.
Yeah I guess that's the only way it could work.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ygift on July 31, 2017, 02:45:00 PM
what is the business class menu on united ewr to tlv?  tlv to bru (Brussles air)  and united bru to ewr.
what hashgacha is on flight from tlv to bru? what about bru to ewr?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on July 31, 2017, 03:32:48 PM
similar idea, prepackaged food that can easily be heated and tastes good
I dont know why you wouldnt go with pom they are by far the best and most consistentt but if you want some more options here you go:

1) seuda caterers on kings highway but geared toward syrian food
2) Avi glatt butcher
3) I and D glatt butcher
4) chap a nosh
5) glatt mart
6) traditions (I know the one in 5 towns does and they have a location in BK as well so double check)

Im sure most restaurants and take out places will do it for you with proper notice as well, but again pom is the gold standard in brooklyn IMO
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: hvaces42 on August 06, 2017, 11:42:30 AM
Figured this is the best place to post this...
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/08/tips-challenges-kosher-travel/
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: as2 on August 06, 2017, 11:44:42 AM
Figured this is the best place to post this...
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/08/tips-challenges-kosher-travel/
Repost
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=220.msg1784191.msg#1784191
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on August 07, 2017, 02:25:13 AM
Flying UA 84 Seat 8A was pleasantly surprised by a very attentive and polite cabin crew, regal meals that were actually tasty (beef stew with rice, cheese blintzes with fruit) and the bed, mattress pad, blanket and pillows are a huge upgrade on the old supplies.

While I was on the 772, the huge improvement in soft product really made me appreciate the great even if outdated hard product.

Next time I hope to try the 773 and compare.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170807/7def0005f684ef057f7fa37c590526bf.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on August 15, 2017, 09:12:46 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before, does UA transcon economy plus get KSML? united started serving meals in economy plus
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on August 15, 2017, 11:59:54 PM
United J EWR-TLV: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17387.msg1789145#msg1789145
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cholent on August 21, 2017, 09:50:13 AM
LX tlv-zrh was a fresh masbia meal, pretty decent (eggs were just passably edible)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170821/fbbfecf4a536353a755f069868c7bd1a.jpg)
Real dishes, fake silverware
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on August 21, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
LX tlv-zrh was a fresh masbia meal, pretty decent (eggs were just passably edible)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170821/fbbfecf4a536353a755f069868c7bd1a.jpg)
Real dishes, fake silverware
Pretty similar to this, but I had real cutlery. Also my eggs had a mushroom sauce instead of the tomatoes which made all the difference.
LX TLV-ZRH
Breakfast from Masbia
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/6eaad2307050173c3a802ec648485a7b.jpg)
ZRH-JFK
Schalom also under hechsher of R' A Y Schwartz
Was excellent.

Lunch
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/f1d060c3ce82bab6c63f2a69162f5c14.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/217afb56c81b1efe8917493281cc84dd.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/cad18819af337faecd7b3ac2937f24b6.jpg)

Before landing
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170608/cfcfaff15407d3d4a7b5fe3ff4f4c0b1.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JS69 on August 25, 2017, 11:08:58 AM
Just had the "pleasure" of enjoying a Borenstein tuna sandwich on the DL JFk-SEA route in the back of the bus. I think it was tuna? Was it? Most the challah had nothing on it and the part that did had a funny colored slop that they said was tuna. The FA attendant actually said good luck as she gave it to us.

I am not the first and definitely not the last to complain about Borenstein but the balls they have to serve something like that to a human being is embarrassing. Would have preferred a Saran wrapped banana. If I remember, I will grab a pic on the return flight.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on August 25, 2017, 11:33:43 AM
Just had the "pleasure" of enjoying a Borenstein tuna sandwich on the DL JFk-SEA route in the back of the bus. I think it was tuna? Was it? Most the challah had nothing on it and the part that did had a funny colored slop that they said was tuna. The FA attendant actually said good luck as she gave it to us.

I am not the first and definitely not the last to complain about Borenstein but the balls they have to serve something like that to a human being is embarrassing. Would have preferred a Saran wrapped banana. If I remember, I will grab a pic on the return flight.
Reminder: Borenstein is owned by ELAL. That should explain everything.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on August 27, 2017, 01:02:51 AM
Reminder: Borenstein is owned by ELAL. That should explain everything.

I did JFK-LAX on Thursday. They served me a "breakfast" at 4 pm of a mini cinnamon danish and a Dole fruit up.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2017, 02:38:52 PM
Just had the "pleasure" of enjoying a Borenstein tuna sandwich on the DL JFk-SEA route in the back of the bus. I think it was tuna? Was it? Most the challah had nothing on it and the part that did had a funny colored slop that they said was tuna. The FA attendant actually said good luck as she gave it to us.

I am not the first and definitely not the last to complain about Borenstein but the balls they have to serve something like that to a human being is embarrassing. Would have preferred a Saran wrapped banana. If I remember, I will grab a pic on the return flight.
Lol, better than this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/gkrfoodies/permalink/734631120056201/?comment_id=734651076720872&notif_t=group_comment_follow&notif_id=1505155014854774
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: JS69 on September 11, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
Lol, better than this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/gkrfoodies/permalink/734631120056201/?comment_id=734651076720872&notif_t=group_comment_follow&notif_id=1505155014854774

So I was on the same DL 1109 and had the same experience with the "fruit bag". My wife kids and I just looked at each other, shrugged, and went onto the sandwiches we made for ourselves before the flight.

Reading that thread just makes me want to slap people though....ugh...The throwing around of Anti-antisemitism is ridiculous. grow up people, I don't think the DL catering department is out to get us.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on September 11, 2017, 04:50:44 PM
Lol, better than this:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/gkrfoodies/permalink/734631120056201/?comment_id=734651076720872&notif_t=group_comment_follow&notif_id=1505155014854774
Well, OP said he preferred a saran wrapped banana, so the apple in there would have just been a cherry on top! Either way, much better for your digestive system and jet-lag to eat that banana and apple than anything else they would have offered.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on September 14, 2017, 07:31:10 PM
Anyone know what EY serves in F ex-AUH and if they'll order a KSML for the lounge?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PieRSquare on September 14, 2017, 07:32:36 PM
Bad news...Thai Airways HND to BKK in F was stogel longlife...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 15, 2017, 05:38:42 AM
Bad news...Thai Airways HND to BKK in F was stogel longlife...
That actually might be an upgrade from the local Bangkok catering
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: PieRSquare on September 15, 2017, 05:51:59 AM
That actually might be an upgrade from the local Bangkok catering
I don't know, we got a packaged whole apple from BKK to CNX.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moe8555 on September 18, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
Does anyone happen to know what KSML would be served on British Airways LHR-LCA (Cyprus) in Club Europe (business)?  Would it be a quality Hermolis meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 18, 2017, 04:30:07 PM
Anyone know what EY serves in F ex-AUH and if they'll order a KSML for the lounge?
They stock KSMLs in the lounge, but it didn't look good.
They were happy to BYOK for me in the lounge though after I told them I only ate kosher.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on September 18, 2017, 04:31:17 PM
They stock KSMLs in the lounge, but it didn't look good.
They were happy to BYOK for me in the lounge though after I told them I only ate kosher.
Nice, thanks! Did it have a good hechsher at least?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 18, 2017, 04:35:19 PM
Nice, thanks! Did it have a good hechsher at least?
Yes, but why not just BYOK?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on September 18, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
Yes, but why not just BYOK?
Leaving early Sunday morning from TLV so I'll try but I'm not sure if I'll have a chance to pick up anything besides for a few sandwiches.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 18, 2017, 04:46:09 PM
Leaving early Sunday morning from TLV so I'll try but I'm not sure if I'll have a chance to pick up anything besides for a few sandwiches.
That's what Polar Bear suitcases are for.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on September 18, 2017, 04:48:00 PM
That's what Polar Bear suitcases are for.
What's the best "POM" option in Israel?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mochjas on September 18, 2017, 05:27:55 PM
What's the best "POM" option in Israel?
bring pom from pom in the polar bear and take it out in Israel, freeze it, and re-insert it in your polar bear cooler ant take it with you!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on September 23, 2017, 10:24:36 PM
bring pom from pom in the polar bear and take it out in Israel, freeze it, and re-insert it in your polar bear cooler ant take it with you!
POM's quality and CS has tanked recently
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moe8555 on September 24, 2017, 03:22:56 AM
Does anyone know what VS serves in premium economy JFK-LHR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on September 25, 2017, 11:58:36 AM
Since when does Norwegian have KSMLs?

NAX has been serving (pre-ordered) KSML for a while now, not sure about NAI. Pretty sure I posted about it elsewhere on DDF. Cr@ppy KSML ex-JFK, but ex-OSL was WAM (French?) decent KSML for Y, AYLOR regarding its kashrus. IINM they serve the same KSMLs in Norwegian Premium.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yhalps on September 25, 2017, 12:25:07 PM
does UA serve Hermolis for LHR-EWR?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on September 27, 2017, 05:52:41 PM
does UA serve Hermolis for LHR-EWR?
Ymmv, sometimes they have from a caterer in antwerp iirc.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yhalps on September 28, 2017, 02:23:05 PM
Ymmv, sometimes they have from a caterer in antwerp iirc.
that sucks, stoegel is terrible.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on September 28, 2017, 02:27:26 PM
stoegel is terrible.
Understatement of the century..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jack out of the box on October 02, 2017, 04:26:56 PM
Anybody know what hechsherim I'm likely to see flying RT between JFK and TLV over WAW on LOT Polish? (In case it makes a difference, the NY ends look like they'll be on Privilege Style birds.)

Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on October 02, 2017, 04:41:27 PM
Anybody know what hechsherim I'm likely to see flying RT between JFK and TLV over WAW on LOT Polish? (In case it makes a difference, the NY ends look like they'll be on Privilege Style birds.)

Thanks

I've only flown ex JFK, and it was Borenstein.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 15, 2017, 12:02:37 AM
Airline: DL
Class: J
Route: LAX-JFK
Caterer: Borenstein
Flight date: 10/10/17
Meal in pics: Lunch
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on October 15, 2017, 01:07:46 AM
Any feedback on kosher from tel aviv to phl via germany in both directions, economy.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on October 15, 2017, 08:06:57 PM
What does AZ have TLV-FCO-JFK?

Anyone know about the other way?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: db23 on October 16, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
hows the kosher food on delta jfk-tlv and tlv-jfk in coach?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on October 19, 2017, 10:34:04 AM
Any feedback on kosher from tel aviv to phl via germany in both directions, economy.
dont you think telling us the Airline would be helpful??
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Kabrams1618 on October 21, 2017, 09:18:44 PM
I guess that I firgot that small detail!
Lufthansa
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on October 22, 2017, 11:01:09 PM
Lunch, CM J TGU-PTY: Utter garbage.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4506/37500145610_8610aaf3ea_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/4L44A6)

Dinner, CM J PTY-JFK: Pretty good, surprisingly.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4460/37500165330_8fac1c133e_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/6G2UP8)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4514/37710115776_c8231ec722_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/4k69YU)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4506/23905569958_f1d213d855_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/Zrr97g)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
Lunch, CM J TGU-PTY: Utter garbage.
...

Dinner, CM J PTY-JFK: Pretty good, surprisingly.
...

Where the hell does Stogel get to stick in their ugly nose in TGU? We have enough from them in Europe..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on October 22, 2017, 11:35:55 PM
Where the hell does Stogel get to stick in their ugly nose in TGU? We have enough from them in Europe..

My thoughts exactly.

I had them catered out of HAV as well.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jack out of the box on October 25, 2017, 03:57:57 AM
Anybody know what hechsherim I'm likely to see flying RT between JFK and TLV over WAW on LOT Polish? (In case it makes a difference, the NY ends look like they'll be on Privilege Style birds.)

Thanks
Here's my post-flight update. Flights between TLV and WAW don't have meals - only basic drinks and non-kosher snacks. (I actually knew that in advance.) Additional drinks were available for purchase. Even on the Privilege Style planes the meal service was LOT's. WAW-JFK had Stogel with hechsher of Machzike Hadass of Antwerp. JFK-WAW had Borenstein's O-U.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on October 25, 2017, 12:45:28 PM
Was the Stogel fresh stuff? Or shelf life meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jack out of the box on October 25, 2017, 01:20:08 PM
Was the Stogel fresh stuff? Or shelf life meals?
Standard style KSML. Refrigerated package + hot dish. No bread of any type so no complicated washing.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 25, 2017, 02:58:41 PM
Airline: IB
Class: J
Route: JFK-MAD
Caterer: Kosher4U (Borenstein)
Flight date: 10/24/17
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 25, 2017, 02:59:57 PM
Airline: IB
Class: J
Route: JFK-MAD
Caterer: Kosher4U (Borenstein)
Flight date: 10/24/17
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 03, 2017, 04:39:09 PM
Airline: TP
Class: J
Route: LIS-JFK
Caterer: WAM (France)
Flight date: 11/01/17
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 03, 2017, 04:39:49 PM
Airline: TP
Class: J
Route: LIS-JFK
Caterer: WAM (France)
Flight date: 11/01/17
Meal in pics: Snack
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 03, 2017, 04:42:09 PM
Airline: TP
Class: J
Route: OSL-LIS
Caterer: WAM (France)
Flight date: 10/30/17
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on November 04, 2017, 08:00:27 PM
Was WAM good?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on November 04, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
Was WAM good?

It was terrible. Would take Borenstein any day over WAM.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moe8555 on November 05, 2017, 02:47:38 AM
Any idea what would be served on BA FRA-LHR 10:55AM flight, Club Europe?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: a mirrer on November 05, 2017, 06:18:07 AM
Any idea what would be served on BA FRA-LHR 10:55AM flight, Club Europe?
ba in Europe generally return caters their flights from London so I guess Hermolis
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bestwatchman on November 05, 2017, 06:28:53 AM
Was WAM good?
wam is never good!!!!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yls2011 on November 07, 2017, 12:48:55 PM
Just called UA to reconfirm KSML for lax-ewr tomorrow and I had an agent tell me that they are only available for us-TLV flights :o. And he insisted upon this “fact”. Even after I read him the ksml availability from United.com.


Some days....
Title: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: ABC on December 13, 2017, 04:00:04 PM
Here's a link to some pictures of the food on flight TLV-LAX   F
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/akdq41xm0tieypj/AADvVsphTmtNbCAoHC1Kz_H5a?dl=0
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: ludmila on December 13, 2017, 04:16:37 PM
Here's a link to some pictures of the food on flight TLV-LAX   F
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/akdq41xm0tieypj/AADvVsphTmtNbCAoHC1Kz_H5a?dl=0
Looks good.
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: aygart on December 13, 2017, 04:21:32 PM
Here's a link to some pictures of the food on flight TLV-LAX   F
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/akdq41xm0tieypj/AADvVsphTmtNbCAoHC1Kz_H5a?dl=0
This is the Mehadrin?
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: Dan on December 13, 2017, 04:33:18 PM
Here's a link to some pictures of the food on flight TLV-LAX   F
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/akdq41xm0tieypj/AADvVsphTmtNbCAoHC1Kz_H5a?dl=0
Looks good, but time for a real camera :D
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: cozmohoot on December 13, 2017, 07:20:27 PM
Does it matter that those pics are from August 2016.?
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: mendyt on December 13, 2017, 08:36:49 PM
Pics please...why are there no SKML pics on DDF?
Not best pics.
This was MXP to TLV in J
Ex TLV was even fresher but sorry no pics.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/c7c57166dbedaf6b1a62438fdb6bfd14.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/887166774c6d3ed07e26fe5144f0baf5.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: as2 on December 13, 2017, 08:49:00 PM
Not best pics.
This was MXP to TLV in J
Ex TLV was even fresher but sorry no pics.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/c7c57166dbedaf6b1a62438fdb6bfd14.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/887166774c6d3ed07e26fe5144f0baf5.jpg)
Looks good, but time for a real camera :D
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: aygart on December 14, 2017, 12:45:03 AM
Looks good, but time for a real camera :D
Not everyone is taking pictures of their meal to post on a blog.
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: ExGingi on December 14, 2017, 09:35:56 AM
Not best pics.
This was MXP to TLV in J
Ex TLV was even fresher but sorry no pics.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/c7c57166dbedaf6b1a62438fdb6bfd14.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/887166774c6d3ed07e26fe5144f0baf5.jpg)
Those vegetables look inferior to what's served on TK (ex IST and ex TLV, both of which get the meals from IST, and I would assume the same goes for flights from the rest of Europe).
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: mendyt on December 14, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
Those vegetables look inferior to what's served on TK (ex IST and ex TLV, both of which get the meals from IST, and I would assume the same goes for flights from the rest of Europe).
Yea salad ex MXP wasn't the best.  But ex TLV was really fresh
Title: Re: Re: Lucky's Latest Adventure
Post by: ABC on December 17, 2017, 01:01:42 PM
This is the Mehadrin?

Yes, it was delicious.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on December 20, 2017, 07:04:40 AM
UA TLV-SFO
Class: Y!

GS Manager and Hamasbia Mashgiach came to my seat to call me to the J Galley.
"Hi is it your Birthday" (someone must have told them, Wife claims no responsibility)
"We have these 2 platters of fruit and cakes for you to enjoy, feel free to let us know when you want them"
No Kosher tape or anything, guess that's why the Mashgiach came on board?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on December 21, 2017, 03:56:30 AM
UA TLV-SFO
Class: Y!

GS Manager and Hamasbia Mashgiach came to my seat to call me to the J Galley.
"Hi is it your Birthday" (someone must have told them, Wife claims no responsibility)
"We have these 2 platters of fruit and cakes for you to enjoy, feel free to let us know when you want them"
No Kosher tape or anything, guess that's why the Mashgiach came on board?
Happy Birthday.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: as2 on December 21, 2017, 07:33:18 AM
UA TLV-SFO
Class: Y!

GS Manager and Hamasbia Mashgiach came to my seat to call me to the J Galley.
"Hi is it your Birthday" (someone must have told them, Wife claims no responsibility)
"We have these 2 platters of fruit and cakes for you to enjoy, feel free to let us know when you want them"
No Kosher tape or anything, guess that's why the Mashgiach came on board?
Happy birthday! Good luck finding a fruit to make shehechiyanu on come R"H
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: LoLo on December 21, 2017, 01:20:52 PM
UA TLV-SFO
Class: Y!

GS Manager and Hamasbia Mashgiach came to my seat to call me to the J Galley.
"Hi is it your Birthday" (someone must have told them, Wife claims no responsibility)
"We have these 2 platters of fruit and cakes for you to enjoy, feel free to let us know when you want them"
No Kosher tape or anything, guess that's why the Mashgiach came on board?
Nice! status?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on December 21, 2017, 04:42:53 PM
Nice! status?

Yes but actually FA showed me that no status was recorded in her app so was VERY surprised. Asked me "who do you know at United HQ?"
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on December 22, 2017, 01:09:39 AM
UA TLV-SFO
Class: Y!

GS Manager and Hamasbia Mashgiach came to my seat to call me to the J Galley.
"Hi is it your Birthday" (someone must have told them, Wife claims no responsibility)
"We have these 2 platters of fruit and cakes for you to enjoy, feel free to let us know when you want them"
No Kosher tape or anything, guess that's why the Mashgiach came on board?
The Mashgiach didn't comment that it was Kosher? Also, what do you mean by GS manager?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on December 23, 2017, 01:57:48 AM
The Mashgiach didn't comment that it was Kosher? Also, what do you mean by GS manager?
Ground services manager?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 24, 2017, 03:09:15 AM
FWIW, DL serves kosher wine even for Y pax ex TLV
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on December 24, 2017, 04:16:37 AM
The Mashgiach didn't comment that it was Kosher? 
He did, explained the white sticker on the cakes - gave me a little Misheberach - totally bizare
Quote
Also, what do you mean by GS manager?
Global Services (on her name tag) - I am certainly not that Status
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Jack out of the box on December 24, 2017, 01:11:59 PM
FWIW, DL serves kosher wine even for Y pax ex TLV
Mevushal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on December 24, 2017, 02:05:17 PM
FWIW, DL serves kosher wine even for Y pax ex TLV
Which wine? is this a new thing?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 24, 2017, 04:49:51 PM
Mevushal?
yes
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 24, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
Which wine? is this a new thing?
They had a red and a white
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on December 31, 2017, 09:00:43 PM
UA TLV-SFO
Class: Y!

GS Manager and Hamasbia Mashgiach came to my seat to call me to the J Galley.
"Hi is it your Birthday" (someone must have told them, Wife claims no responsibility)
"We have these 2 platters of fruit and cakes for you to enjoy, feel free to let us know when you want them"
No Kosher tape or anything, guess that's why the Mashgiach came on board?
Didn't know they have an on-site mashgiach.
Where does he usually work? On the planes? In the airport?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on January 01, 2018, 01:46:41 AM
Ba First LHR-TLV first course
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on January 01, 2018, 01:48:06 AM
BA First LHR-TLV main
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on January 01, 2018, 08:22:32 AM
Hermolis manage to impress me almost every time.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on January 01, 2018, 08:34:31 AM
mashgiach.
In the airport?

At the Hamasbia Kitchen
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 01, 2018, 09:18:48 AM
At the Hamasbia Kitchen
Where's that? How did you get there?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: yitrap on January 01, 2018, 09:21:36 AM
FWIW, DL serves kosher wine even for Y pax ex TLV
AC also does.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2018, 09:35:30 AM
BA First LHR-TLV main
Wow.
How does the plating work though?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on January 01, 2018, 11:14:59 AM
Wow.
How does the plating work though?
They heat it up double wrapped with the plate, no?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
Is that true?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on January 01, 2018, 11:32:16 AM
I saw it on other european airlines where the whole plate was double wrapped.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cholent on January 01, 2018, 11:33:50 AM
They heat it up double wrapped with the plate, no?
Didn't someone post above that after heating the wrapped package they plate it on included new plates? Presumably the plates are packaged separately
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2018, 11:35:15 AM
I think the plate is separate and plating it in back with the food unsealed is halachickly problematic.

Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on January 01, 2018, 11:41:21 AM
I think the plate is separate and plating it in back with the food unsealed is halachickly problematic.
Someone uptread wrote about the process on BA F

They plate it in front of you (meaning breaking the seal in front of you)

They also give you the option to plate it yourself
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2018, 11:42:13 AM
The key is to remind the FA of the procedure.
Some don't know and will plate it in back without asking.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: harrym on January 01, 2018, 12:03:26 PM
IME hermolis meals in BA F lounge LHR were heated sealed with the real plate.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 01, 2018, 12:17:48 PM
The only time I ever had the FA screw up the KSML was on BA
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2018, 12:20:22 PM
LH has done it to me.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on January 01, 2018, 01:24:15 PM
the airlines who barely have KSML screw it up for me, like Egyptair, they took it out of the outer wrapping and heated it with just the foil

Bedeved that is no issue, so I ate it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on January 01, 2018, 01:26:09 PM
Had the issue on VS J LHR-NYC, completely screwed up my Hermolis meal. (They plated it in the kitchen)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on January 01, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
My Hermolis meal came plated.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2018, 02:37:40 PM
My Hermolis meal came plated.
On what airline?
Came double sealed on a plate?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on January 01, 2018, 05:12:02 PM
Wow.
How does the plating work though?
The new plates are double sealed with hechsher and then heated. I insisted they plate it in-front of me at my seat. Cant trust them otherwise. The plate and food were unwrapped at seat- They obliged with a smile.
They had two main choices per customer stake or lamb chops.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on January 01, 2018, 05:24:14 PM
LH has done it to me.
+1
I bought my own hermolis and explained them 5 times IT MUST NOT BE OPENED. Told them its manufactured for the airline oven. They argued it was a fire hazard. I showed them the UK safety stamp and they decided to ask the pilot! They returned with the OK! I warned them again that if opened I can't eat it. Guess what - half an hour later they bring it hot and OPENED!!! I was starved -hadn't eaten all day. Bloody Germans.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on January 01, 2018, 06:05:12 PM
On what airline?
Came double sealed on a plate?
Yes came double sealed in a plate. I remember having an issue as one of the wraps were melted... Was BA F LHR-JFK IIRC.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 01, 2018, 06:23:02 PM
On AA LAX-LIH with BYOK the FA bought the meal to my wife and ask her to check if it's warm enough, as usually he peaks in but he is from Brooklyn and know not to open the kosher ones
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 08, 2018, 09:34:55 AM
Great news - http://theforwardcabin.com/2018/01/07/american-expands-special-meal-program-to-domestic-flights/
Title: American to offer KSML on domestic first
Post by: EJB on January 08, 2018, 10:03:05 AM
HT: Lucky (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2018/01/08/american-special-meals/)

Wow - Quick mods to merge threads :)
Title: What heschsher is my airline meal? Wiki?
Post by: jose34 on January 11, 2018, 05:59:31 PM
Can someone advise, I think it will be helpful to start a thread and maybe even a wiki with what hechsher the KSML is on different airlines. Also different routes we get different types of KSML also. 

Ex. BA- LHR - NY- You normally get a Kidasiah Hechser, but BA NY- LHR sometimes you get Borensteins which have a OU Glatt on it.
Title: Re: What heschsher is my airline meal? Wiki?
Post by: mileagejunkie on January 11, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
Can someone advise, I think it will be helpful to start a thread and maybe even a wiki with what hechsher the KSML is on different airlines. Also different routes we get different types of KSML also. 

Ex. BA- LHR - NY- You normally get a Kidasiah Hechser, but BA NY- LHR sometimes you get Borensteins which have a OU Glatt on it.
There’s a thread about that: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24510.0
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 01:06:05 AM
Great news - http://theforwardcabin.com/2018/01/07/american-expands-special-meal-program-to-domestic-flights/

Anyone have personal experience with this on AA? flying EWR-MIA on Sunday in first wondering if it qualifies it won't let me select it online.... (It has the option but doesn't work when you click on it)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 01:08:03 AM
Anyone have personal experience with this on AA? flying EWR-MIA on Sunday in first wondering if it qualifies it won't let me select it online.... (It has the option but doesn't work when you click on it)
PUTPAC?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 01:15:03 AM
PUTPAC?

Did they said its not offered
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 01:20:01 AM
Did they said its not offered

Actually tried 3 times but no luck (Not that I want it anyway)... Just curious has anyone had any experience with the fresh fruit platter my guess is that there are some halachic issues there....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 15, 2018, 06:59:56 AM
Did they said its not offered

Should have been in effect from 01-10, DROPR, HUCA.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 01:33:46 PM
Should have been in effect from 01-10, DROPR, HUCA.

IS there any thing from AA i can show them to prove that they changed there policy? Keep on getting same response....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 01:34:09 PM
Should have been in effect from 01-10, DROPR, HUCA.

Also got the same response on twitter.....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 01:34:35 PM
IS there any thing from AA i can show them to prove that they changed there policy? Keep on getting same response....
Maybe it's #fakenews. Nothing on their website about it.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 01:34:52 PM
Also got the same response on twitter.....
Send them the link to the memo or blog post and see what they say?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 02:15:57 PM
Send them the link to the memo or blog post and see what they say?

Tried to they said there is no way for them to receive that information.... Got to a manager they said even if I am right they still can't put a request if the system doesn't allow it.....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on January 15, 2018, 02:19:52 PM
Tried to they said there is no way for them to receive that information.... Got to a manager they said even if I am right they still can't put a request if the system doesn't allow it.....
Can anyone with GDS check if AA will confirm a KSML?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 02:20:41 PM
Can anyone with GDS check if AA will confirm a KSML?

GDS?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on January 15, 2018, 02:22:11 PM
GDS?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=25971.0
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 02:27:27 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=25971.0
Oh also FYI on AA website still has old policy on their website....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 02:45:46 PM
45min phone call with a AA manager went nowhere.....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on January 15, 2018, 03:17:02 PM
Can anyone with GDS check if AA will confirm a KSML?

AC always returns KK for KSML between NYC & YYZ so no proof.

This week I had an award booking done by UAMP flying OS & LH. I called LH to order meals, and the rep didn't want to request meals for the OS, so after flighting with her a few minutes that she should I told her fine, just do the LH, she said I need to put you on hold to lookup if KSML is offered on this short flight, I told her you are so stupid and hung up and called OS who just did SRKSML and finished, all segments had meals are confirmed, poorly trained airline agents
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 15, 2018, 03:18:03 PM
I booked flight months ago LAX-KOA. No KSML. After reading this post, last week went online and Kosher meal was an option.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 03:19:03 PM
I booked flight months ago LAX-KOA. No KSML. After reading this post, last week went online and Kosher meal was an option.

In what class?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 03:19:10 PM
I booked flight months ago LAX-KOA. No KSML. After reading this post, last week went online and Kosher meal was an option.
That's because they changed the domestic J SML policy to 2,200 miles+ in November,
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 03:19:54 PM
That's because they changed the domestic J SML policy to 2,200 miles+ in November,

+1
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: E R K on January 15, 2018, 03:21:44 PM
In what class?
J
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 03:23:50 PM
Actually may be getting somewhere on twitter with AA here is a rundown

AA: Please share your six letter record locator. We can take a look into your reservation to see if Kosher meals are offered. If so, we can take care of that for you.

ME:******
 The policy was recently changed to allow this on Jan. 10 2018

(Then i sent them a screenshot i took)

AA:Are you wanting the Kosher meal for both passengers?
ME: Yes
AA:We're going to get in touche with our catering team with this request. We'll get back with you shortly.
ME:OK

that's where it stands now (Not that they misspelled touch as touche LOL)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 03:24:46 PM
That's because they changed the domestic J SML policy to 2,200 miles+ in November,
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/airline-news/kosher-meals-starting-make-comeback-domestic-flights/

Anyone able to update the Wiki with the info from this post?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 03:25:09 PM
Actually may be getting somewhere on twitter with AA here is a rundown

AA: Please share your six letter record locator. We can take a look into your reservation to see if Kosher meals are offered. If so, we can take care of that for you.

ME:******
 The policy was recently changed to allow this on Jan. 10 2018

(Then i sent them a screenshot i took)

AA:Are you wanting the Kosher meal for both passengers?
ME: Yes
AA:We're going to get in touche with our catering team with this request. We'll get back with you shortly.
ME:OK

that's where it stands now (Not that they misspelled touch as touche LOL)
Be sure to ask them why their website isn't updated if that memo is legit.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 03:28:11 PM
I wonder if the reason they are making problems is not because of the policy but because of the departure city EWR is not exactly a huge AA hub....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 03:29:53 PM
I wonder if the reason they are making problems is not because of the policy but because of the departure city EWR is not exactly a huge AA hub....
Nah.
Either the whole thing is #fakenews or someone forgot to flip the switch and update the site.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: rivkag on January 15, 2018, 07:24:09 PM
United cdg to ewr no kosher meal. Booked with points on United.com. I  have it in my profile . Lesson, make sure to call to confirm.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 15, 2018, 07:34:02 PM
Always have to call.
Write for compensation.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 15, 2018, 08:22:20 PM
Actually may be getting somewhere on twitter with AA here is a rundown

AA: Please share your six letter record locator. We can take a look into your reservation to see if Kosher meals are offered. If so, we can take care of that for you.

ME:******
 The policy was recently changed to allow this on Jan. 10 2018

(Then i sent them a screenshot i took)

AA:Are you wanting the Kosher meal for both passengers?
ME: Yes
AA:We're going to get in touche with our catering team with this request. We'll get back with you shortly.
ME:OK

that's where it stands now (Not that they misspelled touch as touche LOL)

UPDATE They sent this:

We're so sorry for the misinformation you were given. Kosher and other dietary meals are only able to be requested on our transcontinental flights. Pre-Order meals are available on your flight, the options are a fresh seasonal fruit plate or a breakfast sandwich on ancient grain flatbread with smoked turkey, egg, and Colby cheese. All special meal information can be found on our website here:
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on January 15, 2018, 08:24:12 PM
Great fakenews - http://theforwardcabin.com/2018/01/07/american-expands-special-meal-program-to-domestic-flights/

FTFM :(
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on January 17, 2018, 12:00:05 AM
I wonder if your Sony you get better lol!  Hard photo to take. Especially no flash with airplane lights out. (Guessing)
Huh?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on January 17, 2018, 12:01:29 AM
Not sure my thread went out of order.
Title: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on January 17, 2018, 12:28:02 AM
Not sure my thread went out of order.
It's nice to see you posting though, regardless of whether or not those posts make any sense
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on January 17, 2018, 12:41:00 AM
Thanks. And Oh boy.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on January 17, 2018, 02:01:25 AM
Thanks. And Oh boy.
What's the "Oh boy" for?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 17, 2018, 08:39:58 AM
What does RJ serve ex JFK? Ex-AMM?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidmal on January 17, 2018, 10:11:58 AM
What's the "Oh boy" for?
Oh boy. That’s where I ended up. That I’m mia status
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 17, 2018, 01:42:23 PM
Ex-AMM?
Rabbanut IIRC
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 17, 2018, 01:55:17 PM
Rabbanut IIRC
Any way to request better, like people do by calling local AZ and AF and requesting Badatz meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2018, 01:55:32 PM
Any way to request better, like people do by calling local AZ and AF and requesting Badatz meals?
LOL. It's RJ, c'mon.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on January 17, 2018, 01:59:33 PM
LOL. It's RJ, c'mon.
Hey, can't complain too much, I paid Transaero A"H more (and that was a bargain at the time - not even flat bed) than what I paid RJ for that seat in J. So no problem with BYOK. Though lack of WiFi is a bummer.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on January 17, 2018, 03:33:22 PM
LOL. It's RJ, c'mon.
Vaad Hakashrus of Amman?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 21, 2018, 07:11:23 AM
Posting from First Class EWR-MIA requested the fruit plate (You can choose it online Ham and cheese or a fruit plate) It came a few slices of cut fruit (Cantelope Honeydew Pineapple plus 2 sliced strawberries) A chobini yogurt (has a hechsher) and granola without packaging..... Not a offical kosher meal but pretty good depending on your level of kashrus
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 21, 2018, 07:13:27 AM
Posting from First Class EWR-MIA requested the fruit plate (You can choose it online Ham and cheese or a fruit plate) It came a few slices of cut fruit (Cantelope Honeydew Pineapple plus 2 sliced strawberries) A chobini yogurt (has a hechsher) and granola without packaging..... Not a offical kosher meal but pretty good depending on your level of kashrus

They also offered bagels and croissants also without packaging.....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 21, 2018, 09:38:43 PM
United F MIA-EWR KSML or no?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 21, 2018, 09:47:48 PM
No
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on January 22, 2018, 11:47:05 AM
Anyone know what the united Snack (they list it as snack) is in F domestic? Any kosher part of the meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 22, 2018, 01:26:05 PM
Anyone know what the united Snack (they list it as snack) is in F domestic? Any kosher part of the meal?
Chips and stuff.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on February 25, 2018, 06:57:11 AM
Any way to request better, like people do by calling local AZ and AF and requesting Badatz meals?

Does this actually still work, and if yes, who do I call from Israel?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 25, 2018, 07:23:27 AM
Does this actually still work, and if yes, who do I call from Israel?
My son recently called AZ Israel office to request Badatz meals ex TLV.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on February 25, 2018, 07:38:07 AM
My son recently called AZ Israel office to request Badatz meals ex TLV.
Was it a J ticket?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 25, 2018, 07:46:25 AM
Was it a J ticket?
No. Deeply discounted Y.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on February 25, 2018, 10:48:42 AM
My son recently called AZ Israel office to request Badatz meals ex TLV.

How do I get in touch with them? Call the Israeli phone number and request Hebrew?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: myi on February 25, 2018, 06:25:57 PM
 any kosher meals on Norwegian?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on February 25, 2018, 06:29:18 PM
any kosher meals on Norwegian?
Yes, but if you have the lowest fare its 35 EUR and even if you have a higher fare IINM it costs a few EUR.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: myi on February 25, 2018, 06:32:42 PM
Yes, but if you have the lowest fare its 35 EUR and even if you have a higher fare IINM it costs a few EUR.
I have a ticket which selected my seats, and offers a meal but it's not a kosher meal, would I be able to swap?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 25, 2018, 06:33:25 PM
How do I get in touch with them? Call the Israeli phone number and request Hebrew?
ISRAEL   
INFORMATION AND BOOKINGS

Tel. 03.7960766 (Sun-Thu 09:00-16:00)

Customer.TLV@alitalia.it
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on February 25, 2018, 06:40:50 PM
I have a ticket which selected my seats, and offers a meal but it's not a kosher meal, would I be able to swap?
Did you try online?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on February 25, 2018, 06:41:01 PM
I have a ticket which selected my seats, and offers a meal but it's not a kosher meal, would I be able to swap?
If you have a low fare + (which is their name for a bundle including free checked bag, seat selection, and meal) you should be able to get a kosher meal for free.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 06:45:28 PM
any kosher meals on Norwegian?
Yes, but if you have the lowest fare its 35 EUR and even if you have a higher fare IINM it costs a few EUR.
I have a ticket which selected my seats, and offers a meal but it's not a kosher meal, would I be able to swap?
If you have a low fare + (which is their name for a bundle including free checked bag, seat selection, and meal) you should be able to get a kosher meal for free.
If bought a ticket by a TA which was done in GDS you get a KSML (+seat + 2 bags)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on February 25, 2018, 06:52:21 PM
If bought a ticket by a TA which was done in GDS you get a KSML (+seat + 2 bags)
Is it the same price as lowfare+?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 06:55:45 PM
Is it the same price as lowfare+?
No
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on February 25, 2018, 06:58:35 PM
No
More expensive?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 25, 2018, 07:01:57 PM
Is it the same price as lowfare+?
No
More expensive?
Compare...
But I hope all TAs add some money to it (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180226/a4dc6f5765a7a09efb5874d985677a60.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180226/5bd0b94653b0cc65623fe85d85ad3370.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 07:13:06 PM
Compare...
But I hope all TAs add some money to it (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180226/a4dc6f5765a7a09efb5874d985677a60.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180226/5bd0b94653b0cc65623fe85d85ad3370.jpg)
You compared low fare with add-ons which is indeed more expensive then the GDS fares.

DY has a net as well ($1 cheaper...)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 25, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
You compared low fare with add-ons which is indeed more expensive than the GDS fares.

DY has a net as well ($1 cheaper...)

No, this is low fare+
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 07:16:43 PM
No, this is low fare+
The second bracket? (Don't know the online names). The lowest fares are cheaper, if you add on or take the second level the GDS is cheaper
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on February 25, 2018, 07:20:08 PM
If I buy it on an OTA (which IME prices in between low fare and low fare +) would I get the bag + seat?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on February 25, 2018, 07:20:59 PM
The second bracket? (Don't know the online names). The lowest fares are cheaper, if you add on or take the second level the GDS is cheaper
Correct. @shapsam asked how it compares to Lowfare+
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 07:22:45 PM
If I buy it on an OTA (which IME prices in between low fare and low fare +) would I get the bag + seat?
OTA are GDS...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on February 25, 2018, 07:23:44 PM
OTA are GDS...
Good to know. I seem to recall Orbitz showing me no checked bags.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 07:24:53 PM
Good to know. I seem to recall Orbitz showing me no checked bags.
Could be they do direct access but generally OTA are using GDSs
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: myi on February 25, 2018, 07:30:24 PM
Basically booked a ticket on studentuniverse.com as they were the only one offering two free checked bags on Norwegian airline from tlv to nyc. Paid 290$
 
  And now curious if I could change my free meal to a kosher meal?
  Sounds like I could will try to call later.

Thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 08:11:57 PM
Basically booked a ticket on studentuniverse.com as they were the only one offering two free checked bags on Norwegian airline from tlv to nyc. Paid 290$
 
  And now curious if I could change my free meal to a kosher meal?
  Sounds like I could will try to call later.

Thanks
Student Universe is definitely using GDS fare
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sandy on February 28, 2018, 01:44:51 AM
Literally just got a banana, apple and orange in a plastic bag as my kosher dinner meal on Delta HNL>MSP. Almost worse than not getting a kosher meal at all. 😂 granola bars and Pringles for the pre-fast meal it will be then.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on February 28, 2018, 03:25:13 AM
Literally just got a banana, apple and orange in a plastic bag as my kosher dinner meal on Delta HNL>MSP. Almost worse than not getting a kosher meal at all. 😂 granola bars and Pringles for the pre-fast meal it will be then.
Lucky it's not a pre 17 Tamuz meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on March 04, 2018, 10:06:20 AM
which KSML is Aeroflot serving? from JFK & from SVO
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on March 04, 2018, 01:48:07 PM
which KSML is Aeroflot serving? from JFK & from SVO

bump
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on March 04, 2018, 03:56:24 PM
which KSML is Aeroflot serving? from JFK & from SVO
From SVO something (shelf stable IINM) under the Hashgocha of R' Berel Lazar. They famously serve the same fleishig meal several times during the flight regardless if it's breakfast, supper or snack.

IINM they serve the same meals Ex-TLV. IDK what they serve Ex-JFK, when I flew with them I was on DL for the JFK-SVO leg.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on March 04, 2018, 04:00:42 PM
From SVO something (shelf stable IINM) under the Hashgocha of R' Berel Lazar. They famously serve the same fleishig meal several times during the flight regardless if it's breakfast, supper or snack.

IINM they serve the same meals Ex-TLV. IDK what they serve Ex-JFK, when I flew with them I was on DL for the JFK-SVO leg.
Is it the same one each time if you don't eat it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on March 04, 2018, 05:14:19 PM

Is it the same one each time if you don't eat it?
Lol

Well. As I said I only flew SVO-TLV on SU. So IIRC there was only one meal service (which I did have, DW declined).

The 3x same fleishig meal reports I got from my sons.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: myi on March 04, 2018, 05:25:30 PM
If you have a low fare + (which is their name for a bundle including free checked bag, seat selection, and meal) you should be able to get a kosher meal for free.
If bought a ticket by a TA which was done in GDS you get a KSML (+seat + 2 bags)


 With a quick phone call they changed it no problem for me since there was already a meal on file they just changed it to the kosher meal who knows what I'll be getting but changed it anyways.
  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on March 04, 2018, 06:05:33 PM

 With a quick phone call they changed it no problem for me since there was already a meal on file they just changed it to the kosher meal who knows what I'll be getting but changed it anyways.
  Thanks guys.
Please report back what you end up getting.

What route BTW?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: myi on March 04, 2018, 06:09:40 PM
Please report back what you end up getting.

What route BTW?
TLV-ARN(STOCKHOLM/SWEDEN)-NYC
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: bendor on March 05, 2018, 02:25:11 AM
bump
You're in luck... I Just got back last week from TLV-SVO-JFK-SVO-TLV on SU Aeroflot.

Out of TLV I didn't order a KSML (due to last minute booking), but both the cold and hot food was all labeled kosher Rabbanut, with some of the stuff Badatz/Machfud (note that the hot portion doesn't come double wrapped though...), and the KSML was Badatz Eida Charedit.
SVO-JFK and SVO-TLV was provided by בדץ אגודת הרבנים רוסיא, Rav Berel Lazer. SVO-JFK we got dinner and a snack. I have pictures of the dinner, I'm almost certain the snack was not the same, but I honestly don't remember  (see pictures below of first meal service SVO-JFK). SVO-TLV we were served a breakfast (omelette).
JFK-SVO was Borenstein (we got BBQ chicken for dinner and an omelette for breakfast. Didn't even open them)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4764/40576414582_5636ff690e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24PAJoS)SU KSML SVO-JFK 2 (https://flic.kr/p/24PAJoS)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4711/40618258071_6172161e92_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24Tic1k)SU KSML SVO-JFK 1 (https://flic.kr/p/24Tic1k)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: travel agent on March 05, 2018, 12:54:03 PM
thanks
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sayhey on March 10, 2018, 10:07:46 PM
Any recent experience with SQ Suites flight JFK-FRA? Are they still serving Borenstein business class meal on paper plates or has it improved?  Thanks.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: myi on March 16, 2018, 05:58:10 PM
Who's hechsher are these? Fine to eat?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/b6f9e227889708fc53ab31268296d2b0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/3f1ecf4707ebe9ce33f5495d371949ef.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/96b41a96873438e0adff389e567df87c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/f64c2d8d04e3dd57983861783dbd458b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/bd676838e18b24380b457efc1e5be1f8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/1561097392816ca3ff53d8122be023f2.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180316/f79f3bd16d6890c72216d7ee44ce6157.jpg)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sruliL on March 19, 2018, 11:22:21 PM
Is the regular meal served in business class on El Al outbound from EWR-TLV kosher without being specified? I currently have "Stricly Kosher" on my reservation but if the regular food is kosher I'd rather have the better food properly plated and not on paper. If it is, do you know who certifies?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 19, 2018, 11:26:33 PM
'The El-Al meals from New York are certified in the commissary only, but due to the way they are served, it is recommended to order a Regal (Mehadrin) Meal. The Orthodox Union does not certify the planes. This applies both to El-Al and Privilege Style operated planes.”
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on March 19, 2018, 11:48:07 PM
'The El-Al meals from New York are certified in the commissary only, but due to the way they are served, it is recommended to order a Regal (Mehadrin) Meal. The Orthodox Union does not certify the planes. This applies both to El-Al and Privilege Style operated planes.”
It is not only the OU that doesn't certify, I don't know of anyone that does. I have never heard of them having a mashgiach on the plane, and nothing stops them from not properly separating milk and meat, or from warming totally non kosher food in their ovens.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 19, 2018, 11:51:05 PM
Who's hechsher are these? Fine to eat?

Stogel taste better than this KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: myi on March 20, 2018, 12:06:07 AM
Stogel taste better than this KSML.
I assume it's kosher from your response?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cdlaz on March 20, 2018, 06:22:46 AM
Stogel taste better than this KSML.
Actually as I fly with ET many times a month who serve Stogels (no I don't eat it) WAM is starting to look better
But Tachles, I just BYOK - Aroma in TLV airport is Mehadrin or get something good in JNB/CPT

I assume it's kosher from your response?
Yes, it is
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on April 07, 2018, 10:12:59 PM
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/04/07/secret-good-meal-american-airlines/
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on April 07, 2018, 10:59:52 PM
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea.com/2018/04/07/secret-good-meal-american-airlines/
Lol, are Borenstein's KFP meals better than their regular meals?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on April 07, 2018, 11:20:41 PM
Lol, are Borenstein's KFP meals better than their regular meals?
One thing about pesach food is that you know it is fresh.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: as2 on April 08, 2018, 12:32:49 AM
One thing about pesach food is that you know it is fresh.
The was a pesach last year too
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 159dallas on April 09, 2018, 03:16:42 PM
Looking for review of united Polaris Business class EWR-TLV KSML....
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 09, 2018, 11:20:34 PM
Airline: AA
Class: J/F
Route: PHL-SFO
Caterer: Borenstein
Flight date: 03-29-18
Meal in pics: Dinner
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 09, 2018, 11:21:14 PM
Continued.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2018, 11:23:02 PM
And, did it live up to Gary's standards ;D
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 09, 2018, 11:26:47 PM
And, did it live up to Gary's standards ;D

At least is was not kosher for Passover gefilte fish :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: zow on April 10, 2018, 09:24:45 AM
At least is was not kosher for Passover gefilte fish :)
Doesn’t look terrible. 
Also, I appreciate that you posted it, and particularly want to thank you for the photos and for following the structured format for reporting.  We should all do that!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 10, 2018, 08:31:58 PM
http://www.collive.com/show_news.rtx?id=50208&alias=delta-served-kosher-but-chometz

I would take the $100 voucher any day over a Stogel meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: cholent on April 10, 2018, 10:10:35 PM
Looking for review of united Polaris Business class EWR-TLV KSML....
In a word: blech
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on April 11, 2018, 02:09:55 AM
In a word: blech
Can that blech be used on Shabbos to place cholent on it?  ;D
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on April 11, 2018, 06:49:59 AM
Can that blech be used on Shabbos to place cholent on it?  ;D
Only parve cholent
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on April 11, 2018, 08:29:16 AM
Only parve cholent

because its not food?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on April 11, 2018, 09:05:01 AM
because its not food?
Because it is blech
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: gold on April 11, 2018, 09:54:46 AM
I would take the $100 voucher any day over a Stogel meal.
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good deal--- I would pay 100$ not to have to eat the meal!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 21, 2018, 11:38:46 PM
Great news - http://theforwardcabin.com/2018/01/07/american-expands-special-meal-program-to-domestic-flights/

AA website has been updated to the following wording: "Special meals are available in First or Business on most flights with meal service in the U.S."
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MilesHoarder on April 26, 2018, 02:04:00 AM
Hi All -

What type of meal can I expect in F on LH ? Flying JFK-MUC-FCO .

Thanks !
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 29, 2018, 12:26:08 AM
Airline: AM (Aeromexico)
Class: J
Route: JFK-MEX
Caterer: Kosher4U / Borenstein
Flight date: 04-26-18
Meal in pics: Dinner

Hot part of dinner was kosher for Passover. This was served on Yud Aleph Iyar..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 30, 2018, 03:47:48 PM
Hot part of dinner was kosher for Passover. This was served on Yud Aleph Iyar..

Got a K4P meal on return as well. This time the meal was not served after it's expiration date, though the whole meal was K4P, with Matzah..
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on April 30, 2018, 05:23:09 PM
Got a K4P meal on return as well. This time the meal was not served after it's expiration date, though the whole meal was K4P, with Matzah..
Maybe they were serving Matza for Pesach Sheini...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 30, 2018, 05:40:59 PM
Maybe they were serving Matza for Pesach Sheini...

Haha :)
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 30, 2018, 05:53:17 PM
Airline: AM (Aeromexico)
Class: J
Route: MEX-JFK
Caterer: KOSHair
Flight date: 04-30-18
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on April 30, 2018, 05:54:57 PM
Airline: AM (Aeromexico)
Class: J
Route: MEX-JFK
Caterer: KOSHair
Flight date: 04-30-18
Meal in pics: Breakfast
Looks like it should be reported to the local health and safety enforcement agencies.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on April 30, 2018, 05:58:47 PM
Looks like it should be reported to the local health and safety enforcement agencies.

I unpacked the hot dish just for the picture and sent it right back 30 seconds later.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: chff on May 01, 2018, 04:42:51 PM
Looks like it should be reported to the local health and safety enforcement agencies.
The after expiration? I got on AA a few months passed expiration NYC<>LAX, twice in 1 week
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on May 01, 2018, 04:50:58 PM
The after expiration? I got on AA a few months passed expiration NYC<>LAX, twice in 1 week
Not that. I had that once too. It's just that the looks of it look like it's dangerous.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 01, 2018, 10:48:08 PM
Flying Air France TLV-CDG-JFK during the nine days. Will they still be serving meat KSMLs?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: MeirS on May 01, 2018, 11:18:32 PM
Flying Air France TLV-CDG-JFK during the nine days. Will they still be serving meat KSMLs?
I recently heard about some airlines which have a code for vegetarian kosher meal but I'm not sure which ones. I heard South African Airways has and I heard that VS doesn't but I haven't been able to verify.
Anyone have more info on this?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mikebg on May 02, 2018, 01:59:03 AM
Flying Air France TLV-CDG-JFK during the nine days. Will they still be serving meat KSMLs?

Impossible to know. Hermolis from London and Hamasbia from TLV will always ensure no meat during the 9 days (at least, not in freshly prepared meals). However, I was served a meat meal from Borenstein in F on BA from NYC a couple of years ago. Very annoying, and 100% the fault of the idiots at Borenstein.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on May 02, 2018, 02:19:49 AM
I recently heard about some airlines which have a code for vegetarian kosher meal but I'm not sure which ones. I heard South African Airways has and I heard that VS doesn't but I haven't been able to verify.
Anyone have more info on this?
I know Swiss and Singapore do. Swiss offer Kosher, Kosher Fish or Kosher Vegetarian.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on May 02, 2018, 08:23:30 AM
I know Swiss and Singapore do. Swiss offer Kosher, Kosher Fish or Kosher Vegetarian.
How do you request it?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Sam Finkelstein on May 02, 2018, 12:20:05 PM
Impossible to know. Hermolis from London and Hamasbia from TLV will always ensure no meat during the 9 days (at least, not in freshly prepared meals). However, I was served a meat meal from Borenstein in F on BA from NYC a couple of years ago. Very annoying, and 100% the fault of the idiots at Borenstein.

Does AF serve those? Or might I end up with plain Rabbanut?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: G11600 on May 02, 2018, 01:07:50 PM
How do you request it?

For Swiss - you need to email (or call) them. I got a pretty quick response. Singapore - I think you can order online
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 24, 2018, 11:57:39 AM
For Swiss - you need to email (or call) them. I got a pretty quick response. Singapore - I think you can order online
Any way to get written or online confirmation from LX (Swiss) of KSML? I called to order, but can't see it online (on LX or LH website).
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on May 24, 2018, 12:05:38 PM
Any way to get written or online confirmation from LX (Swiss) of KSML? I called to order, but can't see it online (on LX or LH website).
They sent me a PDF of the itinerary and it says Kosher meal.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: aygart on May 24, 2018, 12:54:45 PM
Any way to get written or online confirmation from LX (Swiss) of KSML? I called to order, but can't see it online (on LX or LH website).
Email them?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: ExGingi on May 24, 2018, 01:26:44 PM
They sent me a PDF of the itinerary and it says Kosher meal.
Thanks.

Logged into my PNR on swiss.com and requested that eticket be emailed to me. It shows KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 29, 2018, 10:52:17 PM
Anyone know the quality of LH J/F KSML out of EWR-FRA and SQ J FRA-JFK? Do i definitely need to bring my own?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: shapsam on May 29, 2018, 11:13:39 PM
Anyone know the quality of LH J/F KSML out of EWR-FRA and SQ J FRA-JFK? Do i definitely need to bring my own?
Even if it's good quality there's still a chance that it won't make it onto the flight...
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on May 29, 2018, 11:23:40 PM
Anyone know the quality of LH J/F KSML out of EWR-FRA and SQ J FRA-JFK? Do i definitely need to bring my own?
I was actually quite impressed of my recent LH J meal.  Everything was in real dishes

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Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 30, 2018, 01:05:40 AM
I was actually quite impressed of my recent LH J meal.  Everything was in real dishes

Route?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: mendyt on May 30, 2018, 01:10:35 AM
Route?
EWR-FRA
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 31, 2018, 12:27:28 AM
EWR-FRA
Nice, Im going that one in July. Any tips?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on May 31, 2018, 01:27:02 AM
Nice, Im going that one in July. Any tips?
Ye. Order KSML.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: noturbizniss on May 31, 2018, 07:06:48 AM
Ye. Order KSML.
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Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on May 31, 2018, 05:34:32 PM
Ye. Order KSML.
Also fly J.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: noturbizniss on June 01, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Also fly J.
Haha
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sruliL on June 05, 2018, 12:08:34 AM
I'm flying United J (Polaris) TLV-EWR, will I be getting the same KSML as coach or an upgraded meal?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: sillypainter on June 05, 2018, 12:26:12 AM
I'm flying United J (Polaris) TLV-EWR, will I be getting the same KSML as coach or an upgraded meal?

Upgraded.
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Z56 on June 05, 2018, 12:45:18 AM
I'm flying United J (Polaris) TLV-EWR, will I be getting the same KSML as coach or an upgraded meal?

Sounds like it’s your first time flying J!
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 05, 2018, 12:49:26 AM
Sounds like it’s your first time flying J!
Your point is?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Z56 on June 05, 2018, 12:53:29 AM
Your point is?

It’s like asking flying J will I get same seat as Y

Duh 🙄
Gotta Use some common sense
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 05, 2018, 12:54:55 AM
It’s like asking flying J will I get same seat as Y

Duh
Gotta Use some common sense
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Lufthansa/Lufthansa_Airbus_A321_NEK.php
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: elya on June 05, 2018, 12:55:15 AM
It’s like asking flying J will I get same seat as Y

Duh 🙄
Gotta Use some common sense

Your point is?
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: Z56 on June 05, 2018, 12:56:56 AM
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Lufthansa/Lufthansa_Airbus_A321_NEK.php

Stay focused we are taking about TLV-EWR 77W
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
Post by: davidrotts63 on June 05, 2018, 12:58:49 AM


Stay focused we are taking about TLV-EWR 77W

So it's common sense for a 77W, while false about an A321
Title: Re: KSML (Kosher Airli