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Title: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2010, 09:23:01 AM
Ana does not let you search for star alliance partner award avail. if you have no miles in your ana account. I guess most people dont have any miles in their account. Here is a way around it, at the moment it works, I cant promise for how long

1) Click on "ANA International Flight Awards"
2) Enter any (valid) city pairs and any (valid) dates ( HAS TO BE A FLIGHT SERVED BY ANA, LIKE JFK TO TOKYO)
3) Click "Next", NOT of Flight Search
4) Scroll all the way to the bottom
5) You should see "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines" button, click this to search *A availability.
6) You will be redirected to the star alliance search page, from there it works without miles in the account

Have fun
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: MarkS on June 17, 2010, 10:03:21 AM
would searching work if you have 1 mile in your accoumt or do you have to have enough for the flight you are searching for?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2010, 11:37:03 AM
didnt try it, but it does not say, that you need enough to fly. I guess they made it, since to many people have an account without ever using it. When you fly a small flight on star alliance or stay at a partner hotel credit it to them and you will be fine
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Yoel on June 17, 2010, 12:05:03 PM
works thanx.  BTW how can i search tlv-lga and ewr-tlv on ANA?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 17, 2010, 12:08:31 PM
Usually when you search EWR it will also check JFK and LGA, but if you want to be sure, just use the "flight search" button, there you can put in multiple segments and specify the dep. and dest. airports.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 12:09:07 PM
Usually when you search EWR it will also check JFK and LGA, but if you want to be sure, just use the "flight search" button, there you can put in multiple segments and specify the dep. and dest. airports.

it does search all three.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aussiebochur on June 17, 2010, 12:43:05 PM
works thanx.  BTW how can i search tlv-lga and ewr-tlv on ANA?
In general ANA wont give you all the options. It will try looking for a direct route and if it can't find that then it will tell you what it considers the best route.
The best way to search is segment by segment.
When travelling through Europe good connecting airports to start with are FRA, MUC, ZRH.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 12:46:44 PM
In general ANA wont give you all the options. It will try looking for a direct route and if it can't find that then it will tell you what it considers the best route.
The best way to search is segment by segment.
When travelling through Europe good connecting airports to start with are FRA, MUC, ZRH.

followed by VIE, WAW, BRU, (IST I'd skip).

Via the USA I'd look from EWR, or via PHL or YYZ
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aussiebochur on June 17, 2010, 12:48:38 PM
(IST I'd skip).
+1
Funny, thats the route it often suggests.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your accou
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 12:55:12 PM
+1
Funny, thats the route it often suggests.

Here a question for you: just for aussie: How I get from Tel Aviv to Damascus with *A ?


Kol hakavod BTW how you learned the drill so fast.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aussiebochur on June 17, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Here a question for you: just for aussie: How I get from Tel Aviv to Damascus with *A ?


Kol hakavod BTW how you learned the drill so fast.
What dates?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 01:26:06 PM
What dates?

Slow and bad response  ;-)

you choose.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2010, 01:45:18 PM
Egypt air should for sure fly there, as far as i remember Aua as well. Turkish has a few daily flights
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your accou
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 01:48:09 PM
Here a question for you: just for aussie: How I get from Tel Aviv to Damascus with *A ?


Kol hakavod BTW how you learned the drill so fast.

As I wrote: just for aussie
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
They'll probably close the loophole as well.

Any SPG Plats going to transfer 1 mile into ANA to see if that does it?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 17, 2010, 01:52:22 PM
They'll probably close the loophole as well.

Any SPG Plats going to transfer 1 mile into ANA to see if that does it?

1 SPG just became expensive  ;-)
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aussiebochur on June 17, 2010, 02:25:36 PM
As I wrote: just for aussie
Sorry, had to take off a couple of min. to learn something. End of year tests coming up.
TLV-IST-DAM on Turkish
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 17, 2010, 02:44:50 PM
They'll probably close the loophole as well.

Any SPG Plats going to transfer 1 mile into ANA to see if that does it?
I have 80K ANA in my account. Give me an itin that is more than 20,001 miles in distance and I can test that out. (20,001 = 85,000 in coach)
Although that might not prove it 100%
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2010, 02:58:50 PM
I have 80K ANA in my account. Give me an itin that is more than 20,001 miles in distance and I can test that out. (20,001 = 85,000 in coach)
Although that might not prove it 100%
LHR-SYD
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 17, 2010, 03:13:17 PM
LHR-SYD
I tried and it let me search availability without a problem. After choosing the flights it showed me the results with a message that I cant book because of shortage of miles. It did not give me the fees either as they always only gave the fees when you have enough miles in the account.

Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Chaikel on June 17, 2010, 03:19:14 PM
Hyatt wont let you search for awards unless you have 5k in your account, regaurdless of the type of search. You can search for anything once you have 5k.

There may be a similar thing here. What we really need is someone with 1-4,999 miles in their account. What points/miles transfer besides spg?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: MarkS on June 17, 2010, 03:19:54 PM
Those who have no points on their account can't click on the button   'Use star alliance member airlines' or 'use the single airline'. As proven from Chuchems workaround, once you circumvent that, you can access it for now.  So it still remains to be seen if putting in 1 mile will allow you to search the normal way. I tried transferring 1 mile from Amex but you need to transfer a min. of 1000 miles. I would do 1 starpoint (I can afford it even at the current .03 value!) but that would take a few days to go through.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: chuchem on June 17, 2010, 05:31:12 PM
Marks please give it a try. Even if we have to wait. Spg mostly does transfers to airlines on sunday, so you should be able to try on monday
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: MarkS on June 17, 2010, 08:32:54 PM
Any SPG Plats going to transfer 1 mile into ANA to see if that does it?
Marks please give it a try. Even if we have to wait. Spg mostly does transfers to airlines on sunday, so you should be able to try on monday
I can't. Just checked spg rules. Preferred has a 2500 min, Gold (which I am) a 1500 min, and Platinum has no min. Which explains why Dan wrote before 'SPG Plats!
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Mikeoracle on June 17, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
I can't. Just checked spg rules. Preferred has a 2500 min, Gold (which I am) a 1500 min, and Platinum has no min. Which explains why Dan wrote before 'SPG Plats!
No Plats around willing to take one for the team?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: MarkS on June 17, 2010, 09:14:56 PM
Even if a Plat confirms that one point works, that still doesn't help the simplefolk (Gold and Preffered) (note-I didn't say 'little people' cause BP got in trouble for saying that!) to search on ANA without transferring 1000 miles. Unless we get a really generous plat who puts 1 mile in every DD members ANA account..... :)
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: moish on June 17, 2010, 09:42:27 PM
ok ill toftt
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on June 17, 2010, 10:45:32 PM
Even if a Plat confirms that one point works, that still doesn't help the simplefolk (Gold and Preffered) (note-I didn't say 'little people' cause BP got in trouble for saying that!) to search on ANA without transferring 1000 miles. Unless we get a really generous plat who puts 1 mile in every DD members ANA account..... :)
Mismatched name transfers by Starwood are often rejected.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2010, 12:33:20 AM
Took one for the team and transferred 1 precious Starpoint to ANA.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: YOSEF on June 18, 2010, 12:37:57 AM
shkoiach.
I'd sponsor it and pay you through paypal, but I don't want them to shut me down.  :P
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 20, 2010, 02:28:38 PM
Some genius just toke 1 SPG of my account, and it wasn't me.

When I have the time I'll check to who I was nice enough to allow using my account.

I dont care for 1 point, but the chutspa...
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2010, 05:36:03 PM
Confirmed:
1 ANA mile is enough to get back regular access to *A award search!
Transferred on Friday, reached ANA on Monday.

And yes Supe, the mile came from my account.  But surely someone with your snooping skills can figure out who stole your point  :D
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: MarkS on June 21, 2010, 05:38:38 PM
So now the question is how can non-plats get one ANA mile?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2010, 05:41:10 PM
So now the question is how can non-plats get one ANA mile?
It's possible ANA won't reject name-mismatches...YMMV.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Chaikel on June 21, 2010, 06:14:29 PM
I think we have a possibility for $.50 a point. If only one per transaction.
Title: ANA tool not working
Post by: moish on August 09, 2010, 02:59:51 AM
even with the 1 point in the account (unless you engage the workaround). anyone else have this problem?
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2010, 08:24:34 AM
Yes  :(
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: Mikeoracle on August 09, 2010, 01:01:34 PM
I have 80K in my account and it works fine. So the cutoff is somewhere between 1 and 80K ;D
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: Eli on August 09, 2010, 01:12:10 PM
Oh man, I transferred 1 point from spg in anticipation of this. But what you are saying is that ANA doesn't work, but KVS still does, right?
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: moish on August 09, 2010, 01:39:03 PM
dont have kvs
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2010, 02:34:54 PM
I'm traveling now, but if anyone wants to call ANA and see what's up that would be awesome.
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: Mikeoracle on August 09, 2010, 02:52:54 PM
I'm traveling now, but if anyone wants to call ANA and see what's up that would be awesome.
On FT there are 2 reports that may help clarify. One member says he has 50 points but it is not working for him and another member has 100 points and it is working for him.
So the magic number seems to be 100 or possibly somewhere between 51-99 points
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: Eli on August 11, 2010, 05:10:04 AM
KVS is still working with 1 point so that's good.
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: Dan on August 15, 2010, 08:42:53 PM
On FT there are 2 reports that may help clarify. One member says he has 50 points but it is not working for him and another member has 100 points and it is working for him.
So the magic number seems to be 100 or possibly somewhere between 51-99 points
Where did you see a report of a member with 100 miles that can access ANA without the workaround?
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: shmiel on August 15, 2010, 09:13:08 PM
how do you do the workaround?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Mikeoracle on August 15, 2010, 09:40:26 PM
Where did you see a report of a member with 100 miles that can access ANA without the workaround?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14432345-post116.html
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on August 15, 2010, 09:44:25 PM
how do you do the workaround?
Just merged this with the old thread, read post 1 for a workaround.

Here's another workaround from FT's sbm12 that appears to work great for me!
Install Greasemonkey for Firefox and restart your browser (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748/)
Install this Greasemonkey script (http://old.wanderingaramean.com/staralink.user.js)
Go to ANA here (https://www.ana.co.jp/asw/AMCTopServlet?type=e)
Then click award reservation in the top left corner, login, and you should see Star Alliance search just like before they broke it!


Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Mikeoracle on August 20, 2010, 09:55:56 AM
Where did you see a report of a member with 100 miles that can access ANA without the workaround?
Another report from 2 days ago confirming 200 points was enough (for now)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14504758-post7.html
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on August 20, 2010, 01:24:34 PM
Just merged this with the old thread, read post 1 for a workaround.

Here's another workaround from FT's sbm12 that appears to work great for me!
Install Greasemonkey for Firefox and restart your browser (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748/)
Install this Greasemonkey script (http://old.wanderingaramean.com/staralink.user.js)
Go to ANA here (https://www.ana.co.jp/asw/AMCTopServlet?type=e)
Then click award reservation in the top left corner, login, and you should see Star Alliance search just like before they broke it!



The greasemonkey workaround works like a charm, hopefully they won't shut it off.
Title: Re: ANA tool not working
Post by: KVS on September 18, 2010, 03:52:04 PM
KVS is still working with 1 point so that's good.

The KVS Tool is not affected by the recent changes to the ANA website, so KVS Tool members can continue to enjoy access to Star Alliance Award Availability, even if they have 0 miles in their ANA accounts.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Chaikel on September 18, 2010, 11:46:24 PM
The KVS Tool is not affected by the recent changes to the ANA website, so KVS Tool members can continue to enjoy access to Star Alliance Award Availability, even if they have 0 miles in their ANA accounts.
ANA is cheaper
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 19, 2010, 05:48:33 AM
Chaikel, that's not a very nice welcome to KVS.

Here and on FT, they don't seem to cut you slack lately.

Don't worry, its generally a friendly place here.

They are all excited about the dansdeal special you are going to give us.

Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: steve2 on September 19, 2010, 08:34:23 AM
ANA is cheaper

 yet there are those on DD that actually go ahead and pay for the KVS tool, I think it offers more then just Award Seat availablilty, so it might depend just what a person wants out of it to see if its worth paying for it.. After all alot of folks on FT pay for it as well and they too know very well what you do

 KVS Welcome aboard hopefully this wont be your only post, nor just posts trying to get people to sign up for yur site
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Chaikel on September 19, 2010, 09:54:01 AM
yet there are those on DD that actually go ahead and pay for the KVS tool, I think it offers more then just Award Seat availability, so it might depend just what a person wants out of it to see if its worth paying for it.. After all a lot of folks on FT pay for it as well and they too know very well what you do
True, however I wish they had a free version, like awardwallet and others, for casual awardies
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 19, 2010, 10:33:23 AM
True, however I wish they had a free version, like awardwallet and others, for casual awardies

if its ease of handling makes you search more (often), and you find 1 good deal, it paid off.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: KVS on September 20, 2010, 12:26:24 AM
Thanks for the welcome, SuperFlyer & steve2!

yet there are those on DD that actually go ahead and pay for the KVS tool, I think it offers more then just Award Seat availablilty, so it might depend just what a person wants out of it to see if its worth paying for it.. After all alot of folks on FT pay for it as well and they too know very well what you do

Indeed, easy access to award availability is just one of the many KVS Tool features and we were pleased to learn that there are such enthusiastic DD-ers among the KVS Tool members:

KVS is the single greatest invention since Kosher Hot Dogs at Yankee Stadium :)
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: steve2 on September 20, 2010, 09:34:57 AM
Thanks for the welcome, SuperFlyer & steve2!


 no probs hopefully all your posts wont simply be trying to get yourself new members

btw just for the record Im not a KVS member nor have I ever been. Dont like paying for something that can be handled w/o having to pay, it might take me alittle longer but I get it done nontheless

 just its probably a great tool for those w/o Patience or dont know how to find what they need to w/o it and havent been in this game for the 30+ yrs that I have
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 20, 2010, 09:50:32 AM
Yo, Steve2, I happen to have pretty much patience, and yes, I can get all the results from kvs w/o kvs, buts way more efficient, so for the person needing it sporadically, its not needed (if he knows what's he's doing), but otherwise I'd be busy much longer everyday, to finally obtain the same result.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 20, 2010, 09:51:55 AM
If someone is 10+ or 60+ years in the game, it doesn't make a difference anymore, as so many things change so often.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: steve2 on September 20, 2010, 09:58:13 AM
Yo, Steve2, I happen to have pretty much patience, and yes, I can get all the results from kvs w/o kvs, buts way more efficient, so for the person needing it sporadically, its not needed (if he knows what's he's doing), but otherwise I'd be busy much longer everyday, to finally obtain the same result.

 theres a big difference if a person is in the biz of selling tkts then if they travel on their own and have the time to play with things

If aperson is billing out by the hour then even for their own use it might pay to have KVS to save them the time thats needed, but if they have all the time in the world then it might be a waste for them to get KVS
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: steve2 on September 20, 2010, 09:59:00 AM
If someone is 10+ or 60+ years in the game, it doesn't make a difference anymore, as so many things change so often.

 true but the basics are still the same, as is the thought process
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 20, 2010, 01:15:43 PM
Okay, so we are on the same frequency.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: sawlw on February 08, 2011, 08:56:54 AM
is the grease monkey script still working on ANA??
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 09, 2011, 12:11:17 PM
I cant find any star alliance airlines offering flights on points from ORD to TLV june 27th returning july 6th

I searched allot of other dates and could not find any available dates..am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2011, 12:13:31 PM
I cant find any star alliance airlines offering flights on points from ORD to TLV june 27th returning july 6th

I searched allot of other dates and could not find any available dates..am I doing something wrong?
Try using a more beginner friendly flight like Aeroplan or Continental.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: AsherO on February 09, 2011, 12:44:14 PM
Try using a more beginner friendly flight like Aeroplan or Continental.

You mean site?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2011, 01:13:21 PM
You mean site?
Lol...yup
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 09, 2011, 02:03:54 PM
I searched Aeroplan and CO and they are both sooo expensive...Any other airlines I can try?
I have about 150k amex membership points
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2011, 02:15:51 PM
I searched Aeroplan and CO and they are both sooo expensive...Any other airlines I can try?
I have about 150k amex membership points
How many passengers? What class of service do you want?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 09, 2011, 10:24:01 PM
just me and my wife..economy would be fine...Thank you
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2011, 10:42:22 PM
It ain't pretty, but it is 75K miles RT.
CO allows free changes, so you can book something like this and change to better options as they open up and just use this as a last resort.

06/27 UA7441 ORD-YUL, 10:40am-1:43pm.
06/27 AC832 YUL-BRU, 7:45pm-8:35am +1
06/28 SN3291 BRU-TLV, 7:00pm-12:20am +1
or
06/27 UA7441 ORD-YUL, 10:40am-1:43pm.
06/27 AC874 YUL-FRA, 5:30pm-6:30am +1
06/28 LH100 FRA-MUC, 7:40am-8:35am
06/28 LH688 MUC-TLV, 9:25am-2:05pm

07/05 LH687 TLV-FRA, 4:45pm-8:00pm +1
07/06 AC875, FRA-YUL, 10:30am-12:10pm
07/06 AC8655 YUL-ORD, 1:15pm-2:31pm
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: damaxer91 on February 10, 2011, 01:20:04 AM
It ain't pretty, but it is 75K miles RT.
CO allows free changes, so you can book something like this and change to better options as they open up and just use this as a last resort.

06/27 UA7441 ORD-YUL, 10:40am-1:43pm.
06/27 AC832 YUL-BRU, 7:45pm-8:35am +1
06/28 SN3291 BRU-TLV, 7:00pm-12:20am +1
or
06/27 UA7441 ORD-YUL, 10:40am-1:43pm.
06/27 AC874 YUL-FRA, 5:30pm-6:30am +1
06/28 LH100 FRA-MUC, 7:40am-8:35am
06/28 LH688 MUC-TLV, 9:25am-2:05pm

07/05 LH687 TLV-FRA, 4:45pm-8:00pm +1
07/06 AC875, FRA-YUL, 10:30am-12:10pm
07/06 AC8655 YUL-ORD, 1:15pm-2:31pm

Since when does CO allow free changes to date/routing for non-plat?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aussiebochur on February 10, 2011, 01:36:25 AM
Since when does CO allow free changes to date/routing for non-plat?
As long as O/D stay the same its route changes are allowed.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aussiebochur on February 10, 2011, 05:20:48 AM
If you would prefer time in Switzerland.

6/27 AC510 ORD-YYZ 17:35-20:05
6/27 AC878 YYZ-ZRH 21:05-10:45+1 day
6/28 LX256 ZRH-TLV 22:45-3:30+1 day

   
      
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2011, 09:53:31 AM
Since when does CO allow free changes to date/routing for non-plat?
Gotta be a couple years already!

If you would prefer time in Switzerland.

6/27 AC510 ORD-YYZ 17:35-20:05
6/27 AC878 YYZ-ZRH 21:05-10:45+1 day
6/28 LX256 ZRH-TLV 22:45-3:30+1 day

   
      
The timing of LX256 is torture.  Could never quite get on schedule after arriving a 3:30am.  But ZRH does beat out BRU.
Find anything better on the return?

Truth be told you could do better than all of these if you are willing to take a stopover in a European city.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: twentie4hrs on February 10, 2011, 09:59:06 AM
It ain't pretty, but it is 75K miles RT.
CO allows free changes, so you can book something like this and change to better options as they open up and just use this as a last resort.

06/27 UA7441 ORD-YUL, 10:40am-1:43pm.
06/27 AC832 YUL-BRU, 7:45pm-8:35am +1
06/28 SN3291 BRU-TLV, 7:00pm-12:20am +1
or
06/27 UA7441 ORD-YUL, 10:40am-1:43pm.
06/27 AC874 YUL-FRA, 5:30pm-6:30am +1
06/28 LH100 FRA-MUC, 7:40am-8:35am
06/28 LH688 MUC-TLV, 9:25am-2:05pm

07/05 LH687 TLV-FRA, 4:45pm-8:00pm +1
07/06 AC875, FRA-YUL, 10:30am-12:10pm
07/06 AC8655 YUL-ORD, 1:15pm-2:31pm

I actually would prefer that because I could see s'more cities...is this all CO?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2011, 10:02:40 AM
I actually would prefer that because I could see s'more cities...is this all CO?
Thanks!
Any Star Alliance airline can book that itinerary.
The only different is the rates they charge.
CO will be your best option though IMHO.  75,000 miles and probably $100 tax.  You'll need to call them (possibly a couple of times) to book.  Do it soon if you want it.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aussiebochur on February 10, 2011, 10:35:59 AM
Gotta be a couple years already!
The timing of LX256 is torture.  Could never quite get on schedule after arriving a 3:30am.  But ZRH does beat out BRU.
Find anything better on the return?

Truth be told you could do better than all of these if you are willing to take a stopover in a European city.
I think ZRH vs BRU may be a bit of a touche subject here ;)

But we all know which one is better...
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: AsherO on February 10, 2011, 10:47:45 AM
I think ZRH vs BRU may be a bit of a touche subject here ;)

But we all know which one is better...

You mean touchy :P

'which one is better'? Are you talking about cities or DDF members? (or some combination thereof?)
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on February 10, 2011, 10:53:54 AM
'which one is better'? Are you talking about cities or DDF members? (or some combination thereof?)
LMAO!
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: arie on May 24, 2011, 12:36:35 AM
anyone still able to search for flights without miles in your account? it looks like they've updated their site, and the greasemonkey workaround is not working for me :(
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Chaikel on May 24, 2011, 12:44:05 AM
anyone still able to search for flights without miles in your account? it looks like they've updated their site, and the greasemonkey workaround is not working for me :(
Still works for me
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: arie on May 24, 2011, 12:47:19 AM
Still works for me
how do you get there, as original instructions to click on award reservations - its not there anymore?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on May 24, 2011, 12:47:23 AM
Greasemonkey is working for me.
Be sure that the little monkey by your address bar is enabled and try going back to the ANA home page and go to award reservations again.

Or use the longer ANA workaround.
Or purchase KVS.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: arie on May 24, 2011, 12:51:32 AM
alright i got it, the award reservations link is not on top anymore but lower down under 'my amc account'
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: gevaldig on December 11, 2011, 02:03:51 PM
ok let me try if it still works
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: gevaldig on December 11, 2011, 02:26:37 PM
yes it still works. i tried booking for succhas in Israel   business class but i see everything is taken.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: beny on May 04, 2012, 01:53:27 PM
Just merged this with the old thread, read post 1 for a workaround.

Here's another workaround from FT's sbm12 that appears to work great for me!
Install Greasemonkey for Firefox and restart your browser (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748/)
Install this Greasemonkey script (http://old.wanderingaramean.com/staralink.user.js)
Go to ANA here (https://www.ana.co.jp/asw/AMCTopServlet?type=e)
Then click award reservation in the top left corner, login, and you should see Star Alliance search just like before they broke it!
the link to installing the grease monkey script doesn't work for me. can anyone update?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: yossi4k on August 22, 2012, 01:19:26 PM
Using the long work-around how do I see one way availability?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your accou
Post by: Ez on August 23, 2012, 01:43:23 AM
You check each leg seperatly anyway
Title: Re: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your accou
Post by: yossi4k on August 23, 2012, 10:25:49 AM
You check each leg seperatly anyway
yes but you cannot book it like that...
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: blue eyes on September 19, 2012, 01:43:51 PM
the link to installing the grease monkey script doesn't work for me. can anyone update?

update anyone?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: blue eyes on September 19, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
Ana does not let you search for star alliance partner award avail. if you have no miles in your ana account. I guess most people dont have any miles in their account. Here is a way around it, at the moment it works, I cant promise for how long

1) Click on "ANA International Flight Awards"
2) Enter any (valid) city pairs and any (valid) dates ( HAS TO BE A FLIGHT SERVED BY ANA, LIKE JFK TO TOKYO)
3) Click "Next", NOT of Flight Search
4) Scroll all the way to the bottom
5) You should see "Use Star Alliance Member Airlines" button, click this to search *A availability.
6) You will be redirected to the star alliance search page, from there it works without miles in the account

Have fun

where is the NEXT button??
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: hocker on June 08, 2013, 08:22:26 PM
Just merged this with the old thread, read post 1 for a workaround.

Here's another workaround from FT's sbm12 that appears to work great for me!
Install Greasemonkey for Firefox and restart your browser (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748/)
Install this Greasemonkey script (http://old.wanderingaramean.com/staralink.user.js)
Go to ANA here (https://www.ana.co.jp/asw/AMCTopServlet?type=e)
Then click award reservation in the top left corner, login, and you should see Star Alliance search just like before they broke it!



the link to installing the grease monkey script doesn't work for me. can anyone update?
Anyone have a good work around?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Centurion on June 09, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
Anyone have a good work around?
did you get this to work?
i have 100k in my account if you need a simple search to be done.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: milechazzer on December 25, 2013, 02:33:11 AM
Is there any "workaround" that still works for searches on ANA, with no miles in your account?  The greasemonkey script linked above seems to be dead.

thx
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on December 25, 2013, 03:24:41 AM
Search for an ANA route and then add Star Alliance.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: jaywhy on December 25, 2013, 07:10:34 AM
The WATT script still works....
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: milechazzer on December 25, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
The WATT script still works....

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the WATT script, and where can I download?

thx
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: milechazzer on December 25, 2013, 11:34:52 AM
Search for an ANA route and then add Star Alliance.

Doesn't this work only if it's a route that ANA flies? I'm looking for US-Europe flights, so that doesn't seem to be an option.

thx
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: jaywhy on December 25, 2013, 11:54:40 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the WATT script, and where can I download?

thx
http://blog.wandr.me/2012/08/reintroducing-the-ana-partner-search-link/
Doesn't this work only if it's a route that ANA flies? I'm looking for US-Europe flights, so that doesn't seem to be an option.

thx
Once you search for an ANA route, the option to add *A partners becomes available. Once it does, you modify the search to whatever you are looking for.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: PETERP on December 26, 2013, 03:22:56 PM
http://blog.wandr.me/2012/08/reintroducing-the-ana-partner-search-link/Once you search for an ANA route, the option to add *A partners becomes available. Once it does, you modify the search to whatever you are looking for.

Wow . That looks above my pay grade . Is it difficult to install and where do you install it. Anyone feeling altruistic  can PM me
Thanks
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: jnjose on February 26, 2014, 10:56:15 PM
May I ask a question?

in ANA website, if I could not find an award roundtrip ticket BOSTON-SHANGHAI. But instead, I can find an award ticket BOS-EWR and an award ticekt EWR-shanghai using 7 day availability option.
Can I call ANA and tell them the flight numbers. Let ANA book the roundtrip ticket for me ?

Thanks
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Ez on February 26, 2014, 11:09:44 PM
May I ask a question?

in ANA website, if I could not find an award roundtrip ticket BOSTON-SHANGHAI. But instead, I can find an award ticket BOS-EWR and an award ticekt EWR-shanghai using 7 day availability option.
Can I call ANA and tell them the flight numbers. Let ANA book the roundtrip ticket for me ?

Thanks
Airline websites don't always piece together all itinerary options available, so I believe by calling them you'll be able to get the flights you want.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Zevwolf on April 01, 2014, 11:36:55 PM
http://thepointsguy.com/2014/04/how-to-find-and-book-star-alliance-awards-not-showing-up-on-united-com/
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: YMW on August 03, 2014, 04:48:16 AM
How can I know how much fuel surcharge will be if I don't have enough miles yet?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: jaywhy on August 03, 2014, 08:30:11 AM
How can I know how much fuel surcharge will be if I don't have enough miles yet?
ITA.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Elgnt on August 03, 2014, 11:10:17 AM
Can someone enlighten me on ANA's cancellation policy. If I cancel my trip is it possible to get the miles refunded and surcharge? How much will it cost me to do that?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: ilherman on August 03, 2014, 11:36:47 AM
Can someone enlighten me on ANA's cancellation policy. If I cancel my trip is it possible to get the miles refunded and surcharge? How much will it cost me to do that?
IIRC there is a penalty of 3000 miles.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your accou
Post by: Ez on August 03, 2014, 12:54:58 PM
And IIRC, that only applies before trip starts.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Elgnt on October 04, 2014, 05:22:18 PM
What happens if you take the first leg change you change date of return flight?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: MosheD on October 04, 2014, 07:54:59 PM
What happens if you take the first leg change you change date of return flight?
Cmiiw free date changes as long as it the same route
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Marco Polo on September 11, 2015, 12:34:24 PM
One way/Round trip: RT
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any: Any
From: SAN; SNA; LAX
To: TLV
Departure dates: 12/10 or 12/11
Return airports: TLV
Return dates: 12/23
Class: Preferably Business; but mixed cabin is fine too
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline: SA or OW
You should really post this in the award or paid ticket master thread.

Award is here. (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0)

Paid is here. (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7985.0)
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: gevaldig on April 23, 2017, 11:05:33 PM
Anyone know how many miles I need to have in my account in ANA in order to ba able to search Star Alliance ?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: yelped on April 23, 2017, 11:47:55 PM
Zero?
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: gevaldig on April 23, 2017, 11:54:17 PM
Zero?
I have zero and it's not showing.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: yelped on April 24, 2017, 12:02:13 AM
Works by me. Never had any points there. Try different dates, different routes. (not NYC -TLV)  ;)
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: gevaldig on April 24, 2017, 12:10:40 AM
So why is this thread called ''  Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account""
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: KVS on April 24, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
So why is this thread called ''  Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account""

Because this thread is from 2010.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2017, 02:09:06 PM
Because this thread is from 2010.
:)
Also back then ANA's *A search was far more powerful than it is today.
Title: Re: Ana doesnt work anymore for star alliance if you have no miles in your account
Post by: aygart on April 24, 2017, 02:55:17 PM
Because this thread is from 2010.
and once it has a title it barely ever change even if the title no longer makes any sense.