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Title: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: batzelda1 on June 18, 2010, 03:14:44 AM
Can anyone recommend a tour guide/tour company for a one-day trip from Eilat to Petra?
Title: Re: Petra
Post by: moish on June 18, 2010, 03:21:58 AM
when i was a bochur, we (me and friends) did it ourselves. basically walk over the border at aravah (2 minutes north of eilat) and take a taxi to petra. once there, we hired a guide thru the tourist info center. if you would rather a company in israel, i can scan you a copy of a brochure here but i dont have any experience with them.
Title: Re: Petra
Post by: chuchem on June 18, 2010, 04:29:56 AM
Hi I also went without a guide. You will pay much more with an israeli Company

We (incl. wife and baby) had 24 hours time, so we did it as following

10 PM Flight TLV-Amman with Royal Jordanian (booked on their website)
 
midnight 2,5 hour cab to Petra from airport. I stayed at the crown plaza. They arranged the cab, it was 80 Dollars. Probably cheaper if you just take one from the airport, but the one from the hotel knew the way, so not worth saving 20 Dollars for the unknown

9 am we took a tour guide from the info center for 2 hours, the rest we walked around ourselfs and on donkeys guided by six year old kids ;-)

3 pm taxi to Aqaba/ eilat border. 2 hours about 50 Dollars

Crossed the border, had supper in Halaluya and took a flight back to Tel Aviv with israir(booked on their website). Landed in Tlv 9 PM, home at  10:30 PM

A real nice 24 hours trip

Be careful, the border is not open 24 hours, so check the times if you want to do it in one day!

Title: Re: Petra
Post by: moish on June 18, 2010, 07:19:13 AM
interesting way to do it. how much was the flight tlv-amm?
Title: Re: Petra
Post by: chuchem on June 18, 2010, 08:18:20 AM
I dont remember anymore, sorry, but not to much
Title: Re: Petra
Post by: steve2 on June 18, 2010, 09:55:21 AM
 its beyond me why anyone would want to spend their Money in Jordan , Turkey etc today after what their Govts have been saying lately about Israel
Title: Re: Petra
Post by: em0616 on June 18, 2010, 09:58:54 AM
There are 3 borders with Israel to Jordan. The one closest to Jerusalem (Allenby/King Hussein bridge), does require a
Jordanian visa in advanced if coming from Israel, (plus Israeli passport holders are not allowed to use the
Allenby/King Hussein bridge. This border is only opened from early morning till about 1pm, and there are service vans
running all morning between Damascus Gate and the Allenby bridge.

Once on the Jordanian side, one can rent a car and drive to Petra, hire a taxi (make sure to negotiate price and write down the
price on paper (they like to say fifteen jordanian dinar, and then when you get off, they are demanding 50 dinar).

If coming in from Eilat, crossing the border into Jordan, take a taxi to bus station (should cost 7-8 dinar for the 5 minute ride),
where there are service vans  to Petra, for about 5 Jordanian. a taxi to Petra should cost around 30-35 dinar.

If you are looking to stay in a cheap hotel in Petra, I would recommend Valentine Inn.

The Petra park, you would have to pay an admissions fee, which is about 21 JD for one day, 26 JD for two days.
You definitely do not need a tour guide, you can cover it by foot, and will be hassled by horse, camel, and donkey
owners offering to give you a ride.

If you come in early, you can take a 4 hour trip up to Har hahor where Aharon hakohein is believed to be buried.
Once inside the park, negotiate a price with the bedoin guide to take you up. (They call it Jabal Aarun).
I have done it on occasions by foot, and by donkey. It's too steep to use a different animal.


Also for more travel info look at http://wikitravel.org/en/Petra  and http://www.tripadvisor.com forums.

My itinerary that I have done twice:

Take Egged bus to Eilat - from there take a 5 minute taxi to the Arava crossing to Jordan. At the border terminal
the entire procedure should take 15-20 minutes. You have to pay an Israeli departure tax (around 95 shekel, which you can by
by credit card). Once in Petra, a taxi to Petra should be 30 dinar. Or take a taxi to town (7-9 dinar), and from there next to the
Aqaba police station, sort of an outside bus station,  service vans go to Petra, in the morning hours for about 5 dinars, and leave
when they fill up.

The Arava border crossing with Eilat is opened from 6:30am to 8:00 pm. After Petra, you can head back South to Aqaba,
and cross back into Eilat, but since it's a humongous circle if you are going back Jerusalem or Tel Aviv - I recommend
going straight up North to King Hussein/Allenby crossing. You can take a taxi, and ask him to take him on the Kings
Highway, instead of the Deserts - which will allow for an extremely scenic route.

In Amman, I stayed at the Palace Hotel http://www.palacehotel.com.jo/

The city of Amman, there is not much to see or due there - you can skip it. There is a service van from Petra to Amman,
but I believe it's only twice a day. In Amman, a taxi to the Israeli border is about 10-12 Jordanian. In the Abdali bus
station, (which I think is by the second circle of Amman) there are shared taxis all morning that go to the border station, leaving
when they fill up for around 3-4 Jordanian. The Allenby terminal is very busy, as it's the only way Palestinians can cross from
Jordan into Jericho, as Palestinians who are not Israeli citizens, are not allowed to use Ben Gurion airport. Once on the Israeli
side, which is near Jericho, there are service vans that drop you off by Damascus gate ( for around 50 shekel).  Also,
on the Israeli side, there is a separate line for Palestinians and tourists.

The Eilat/Aqaba crossing is by foot, but Allenby bridge, involves a 5 minute bus ride after going through departure.

 In Amman, I stayed at the Palace Hotel http://www.palacehotel.com.jo/
Title: Re: Petra
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2010, 10:28:15 AM
interesting way to do it. how much was the flight tlv-amm?
The route is golden for LAN or Qantas miles.
Title: Re: Petra
Post by: batzelda1 on June 18, 2010, 11:29:51 AM
Is Qantas and Lan miles an equivalent now?
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 19, 2010, 10:46:45 PM
Once you're crazy enough to go, make sure you go to Ahron Hacohens Kever which is right near Petra.
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 20, 2010, 02:50:30 AM
we were "crazy enough" to go, but werent prepared to go 3 hours on donkeyback to a safek kever
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 20, 2010, 06:09:53 AM
If you want to go to Ahrons Kever, you have to be there really early to make it back to the border on time. Also note its a very steep path. I think the only way you can do it is, if you stay over night in Petra. I know guys who did it and they rather walked most of the way, as they were scared the donkey will fall.
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 20, 2010, 06:11:56 AM
its beyond me why anyone would want to spend their Money in Jordan , Turkey etc today after what their Govts have been saying lately about Israel

I didnt go there for a long vacation and spend tons of money. I went to see something that intrests me and left again. If a guy goes for a week to the beach in Turkey, you are right, he can do that in Israel. But I cant see Petra anywere else, if I dont go I punish myself!
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 20, 2010, 07:51:41 AM
I didnt go there for a long vacation and spend tons of money. I went to see something that intrests me and left again. If a guy goes for a week to the beach in Turkey, you are right, he can do that in Israel. But I cant see Petra anywere else, if I dont go I punish myself!

 a very nice Rationalization what can I say. A person can say the same for places in Iran, Syria etc etc. Could be if you werent spending even a Dime but as long as a person will in 1 way or another be spending $$ there its best NOT to go,IMO. At least under the present circumstances that Kol Yisroel is in
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: md on June 20, 2010, 08:41:29 AM
I have to agree with steve2
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 20, 2010, 09:26:14 AM
Lets not forget one thing. Jordan is a state that made peace with israel, didnt show any hostility and no terror comes from their border. So lets not compare jordan to turkey or iran!
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 20, 2010, 09:44:07 AM
Lets not forget one thing. Jordan is a state that made peace with israel, didnt show any hostility and no terror comes from their border. So lets not compare jordan to turkey or iran!


 Boy are U in the mood today to Rationalize

 Jordan lets see it wasnt them who destroyed the cementary on Har Tzatim, they didnt burn all the Shuls in the Old City, before 1967 they allowed any and ALL Jews to visit the Kotel. I guess you havent read any of the Kings statements lately. Need I go on talking about whom you consider to be a State at peace, IMO the only Piece they want is Israel

In a nut shell they want all of Israel as they still feel the British Mandate was wrong for creating a Jewish State, nor dont they care that before 1946 there was Never such a creature as a Jordanian. And the vast majority of Jordians today are Palestines

 chuchem with these posts of yurs you are proving yourself to be anything but your handle
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 20, 2010, 10:16:39 AM
I just said we should not compare them to turkey iran or syria, thats all. Nobody likes us and most countries around the world killed us during some stage in history. There are not many places left to visit if you are looking for a place that loves us and never killed us.

Is it better to spend the summer in France or Spain? How about russia and Poland?

I know you will not agree with me!
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 20, 2010, 10:29:09 AM
I just said we should not compare them to turkey iran or syria, thats all. Nobody likes us and most countries around the world killed us during some stage in history. There are not many places left to visit if you are looking for a place that loves us and never killed us.

Is it better to spend the summer in France or Spain? How about russia and Poland?

I know you will not agree with me!

 as true as this is IMO, theres a Big difference between what a country or people did 100, 1000 yrs ago to what they are doing today

Jordan even Egpyt are NOT friends with Israel or The Jewish people, I wouldnt say there is Peace but rather lack of War at this time, but if a War should brake out do U really think they will simply sit by and say sorry My Bros we have a Peace agreement with Israel and You are on your own, they might if they dont see they can Gain anything by joining in but most likely they wont be sitting on the side lines

 So there are plenty of places in the world to go and visit and spend ones $$ , we dont need to support our Enemies who are waiting and hoping that each day is the end of ALL Jews living on this earth.

 I myself would like to go to Petra and other places in Jordan and Egypt etc but wont
Title: Re: Petra, Jordan Master Thread
Post by: kivabb on June 20, 2010, 09:54:23 PM
we were "crazy enough" to go, but werent prepared to go 3 hours on donkeyback to a safek kever

If you saw the way those bedoins made us take off our shoes before we went in there, you could tell the chashivos even they had for it. But granted that it was a arduous hike. We met up with some 70+ year old chief bedoin lady who could have done advertisements as the Morlboro woman with what she was smoking. She escorted us for the 2 hour hike and had the key to get in which was kind of critical after all that. All she asked was some tip in return. We gave her $20 and she was happy. This of course was 15 years ago so maybe inflation has hit Jordan as well. I think she would have rathered another pack of Marlboros. Don't do the hike without being prepared, without having some sort of escort, and without having that key.

Petra is breathtaking, but once you do that initial short hike into the theater, it take like 30 minutes to see what's there. The inside of the structures let's just say is a bais hakisei kavua and enter at your own risk. The kever defenitely made the trip into something really cool and special. But we spent the night there.
Title: Amman, Jordan - Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 16, 2012, 05:32:18 PM
Anyone ever spend a day in Amman? I have a 12 hour layover in August during the middle of the day (1pm to 1 am or so).

Maybe I'll hit up the chabad house :)
Title: Re: Amman, Jorday Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 16, 2012, 05:34:41 PM
The title is going to be super annoying - please correct.
Title: Re: Amman, Jordan - Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
Anyone ever spend a day in Amman? I have a 12 hour layover in August during the middle of the day (1pm to 1 am or so).

Maybe I'll hit up the chabad house :)
the lounge is actually pretty nice. you can also rent a room with a bed and bathroom for $50
Title: Re: Amman, Jordan - Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 16, 2012, 05:49:54 PM
the lounge is actually pretty nice. you can also rent a room with a bed and bathroom for $50
Thought about that, but its during the day, and I wouldn't be tired.

Worth going into Amman?
Title: Re: Amman, Jordan - Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on July 16, 2012, 05:54:59 PM
Thought about that, but its during the day, and I wouldn't be tired.

Worth going into Amman?

Not too much to see there.
Title: Re: Amman, Jordan - Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 06:05:53 PM
ive flown through amman about 5 times, but always with my family, and the wife wasnt comfortable exploring

do you have enought ime to visit petra? thats worthwhile
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 16, 2012, 11:47:28 PM
Not too much to see there.

+1. Rent a room and have a nap.

Other than the lounge, which is pretty nice, AMM makes LGA look like SIN.

New terminal can't open soon enough!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yeki89 on July 17, 2012, 12:53:25 AM
deff go to petra, there is enoght time, its about 3 houts each way, back when i was a boucher i did it. Its unreal, google pictures.... It doesnt do justice. Or cross over the border to israel, enjoy eliat, go snorrkeling! Or ride with the dolphines!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 17, 2012, 01:33:28 AM
deff go to petra, there is enoght time, its about 3 houts each way, back when i was a boucher i did it. Its unreal, google pictures.... It doesnt do justice. Or cross over the border to israel, enjoy eliat, go snorrkeling! Or ride with the dolphines!
Well, I'm coming from Israel, so I'll do Eilate a different time.
How to get to Petra from Amm? Although it sounds risky to go so far.

Is a visa needed?
Title: Photos: Visiting Aharon Hakohen’s Grave in Jordan
Post by: ual902 on July 10, 2013, 05:48:19 PM
http://crownheights.info/chabad-news/392947/photos-visiting-aharon-hakohens-grave-in-jordan/ (http://crownheights.info/chabad-news/392947/photos-visiting-aharon-hakohens-grave-in-jordan/)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yeki89 on July 10, 2013, 09:21:52 PM
Well, I'm coming from Israel, so I'll do Eilate a different time.
How to get to Petra from Amm? Although it sounds risky to go so far.

Is a visa needed?
You get one by the border.

I took a taxi there, I heard that there is a bus from in Amman, but I can't confirm.

Just a small tip of advise.

The taxi's across the border bring you to their friend in an unmarked car. I guess you need to be an official taxi in order to pick up.

Are you planning on staying over night?

Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chff on July 10, 2013, 11:02:52 PM

Are you planning on staying over night?

It was over a year ago....
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yeki89 on July 10, 2013, 11:08:29 PM
Oh, i saw the last post, and figured it was in reference to the previous one.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on July 10, 2013, 11:27:16 PM
More TR pics of Kever Aaron in Jordan:

http://www.kikarhashabat.co.il/%D7%A2%D7%9D-%D7%9B%D7%90%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A8-%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%A2-%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%9D-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%9F.html?gview=photoblog#img140800 (http://www.kikarhashabat.co.il/%D7%A2%D7%9D-%D7%9B%D7%90%D7%A4%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%95%D7%97%D7%9E%D7%95%D7%A8-%D7%9E%D7%A1%D7%A2-%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%9D-%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%93%D7%9F.html?gview=photoblog#img140800)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 11, 2013, 03:15:27 AM
are you in the pics?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on September 23, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
Anyone have a cheap hotel to stay in Petra or the area?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Drago on September 23, 2013, 04:44:25 PM
Anyone have a cheap hotel to stay in Petra or the area?
I recall seeing IHG availability for decent points.
Did you chk there?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: voldemort on September 24, 2013, 01:22:33 AM
Anyone have a cheap hotel to stay in Petra or the area?
the cheaper and nice hotels are in Aqaba and you can just go to Petra for the day
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 22, 2014, 09:37:15 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to get from Amman Jordan to Israel by ground at midnight?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 22, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to get from Amman Jordan to Israel by ground at midnight?
none of the crossings are open then
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on October 22, 2014, 06:36:37 PM
none of the crossings are open then
+1 they close at 8 pm IINM.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ilherman on October 22, 2014, 09:57:38 PM
What else is there interesting to see in Petra besides its rock-cut architecture?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: voldemort on October 23, 2014, 12:20:12 AM
Aaron hakohen's kever
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 27, 2014, 05:03:06 PM
Is it better to drive from AMM to Jerusalem or book an RJ flight to TLV?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 27, 2014, 05:32:16 PM
Is it better to drive from AMM to Jerusalem or book an RJ flight to TLV?
Taxi would be cheaper, flying is less complicated
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: itsyehuda on October 27, 2014, 05:43:53 PM

Taxi would be cheaper, flying is less complicated

If landing time was 11PM would have to wait until morning?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 27, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
If landing time was 11PM would have to wait until morning?

Yes.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on December 29, 2014, 12:12:39 PM
How long is the process to get your visa at the Amman airport?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 29, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
How long is the process to get your visa at the Amman airport?
Took me about 45 minutes all in all (I landed on the last day of a holiday I think) Arabs were being rude and kept cutting the line.
I suggest having the 40JOD with you as it will save you time. (they accept cedit cards too)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on December 29, 2014, 04:22:09 PM
Took me about 45 minutes all in all (I landed on the last day of a holiday I think) Arabs were being rude and kept cutting the line.
I suggest having the 40JOD with you as it will save you time. (they accept cedit cards too)
Thanks, so your saying its better to wait 45 min then to go to the council in Manhattan?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 29, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
Thanks, so your saying its better to wait 45 min then to go to the council in Manhattan?
You going for single entry or multiple entry?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on December 29, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
You going for single entry or multiple entry?
Crossing borders to Israel.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Suave on December 29, 2014, 04:24:41 PM
Crossing borders to Israel.
Same day? Maybe a transit visa could work?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on December 29, 2014, 04:27:44 PM
Same day? Maybe a transit visa could work?
Yes, And what is that? and how do you go about getting that?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on January 28, 2015, 01:08:21 PM
Same day? Maybe a transit visa could work?
So whats a transit Visa and where do you get that?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 28, 2015, 07:18:35 PM
So whats a transit Visa and where do you get that?
At the airport
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on January 28, 2015, 07:19:10 PM
At the airport
Is it the same as a regular Visa?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 28, 2015, 07:19:38 PM
Is it the same as a regular Visa?
Don't know.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 28, 2015, 07:51:15 PM
Has anyone here crossed the Allenby brigde?
Jordan-Israel
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on February 22, 2015, 05:48:26 AM
Any1 know how much it costs to go to petra from the eilat border ? To get into jordon and to get into petra.
 is the border not opened 24 hours ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 22, 2015, 06:36:58 AM
Any1 know how much it costs to go to petra from the eilat border ? To get into jordon and to get into petra.
 is the border not opened 24 hours ?

times http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ConsularServices/Pages/Crossing_points.aspx
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on February 22, 2015, 09:23:33 AM
Any1 know how much it costs to go to petra from the eilat border ? To get into jordon and to get into petra.
 is the border not opened 24 hours ?
I did it a year ago and lernd up the whole sugya.
I have a lot of tips to share but didint yet get around to writing it up.
PM me and I can give you all the details.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on February 22, 2015, 09:26:27 AM
I did it a year ago and lernd up the whole sugya.
I have a lot of tips to share but didint yet get around to writing it up.
PM me and I can give you all the details.
Thanx alot. I guess next time I'm in eilat. We came to the border around 1pm and the border closes 8 pm so it wasn't worth it anymore. I didnt dream that the border wasn't opened 24 hours.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 22, 2015, 09:32:00 AM
Any1 know how much it costs to go to petra from the eilat border ? To get into jordon and to get into petra.
 is the border not opened 24 hours ?
Cab is 100 JOD ($141 USD) for the day.
Jordanian Visa costs 40 JOD ($56 USD).
Petra costs 90 JOD ($127 USD) if you are not sleeping over in petra.
Border times. SUN-THU: 6:30 AM to 8:00 PM. FRI and SAT: 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on February 22, 2015, 02:55:20 PM
Cab is 100 JOD ($141 USD) for the day.
Jordanian Visa costs 40 JOD ($56 USD).
Petra costs 90 JOD ($127 USD) if you are not sleeping over in petra.
Border times. SUN-THU: 6:30 AM to 8:00 PM. FRI and SAT: 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM
-1/2
We paid the cab 60 JOD ($90) for the day.
You don't pay for a Visa if crossing by Eilat and only going to Aqaba ;)
Petra is 55 JOD ($73) if you slept in Jordan the night before or if you slept in Jordan the night before ;)

I really need to write up my trip report.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on February 22, 2015, 09:47:07 PM
-1/2
We paid the cab 60 JOD ($90) for the day.
You don't pay for a Visa if crossing by Eilat and only going to Aqaba ;)
Petra is 55 JOD ($73) if you slept in Jordan the night before or if you slept in Jordan the night before ;)

I really need to write up my trip report.

Please do write it up, very interested to hear.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 25, 2015, 02:55:14 PM
Just to the people who plan on going there in the near future http://www.vosizneias.com/195936/2015/02/25/jordan-us-embassy-warns-of-threat-to-malls-in-jordans-capital/
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 25, 2015, 03:03:58 PM
Just to the people who plan on going there in the near future http://www.vosizneias.com/195936/2015/02/25/jordan-us-embassy-warns-of-threat-to-malls-in-jordans-capital/
And this is just to the people who plan on going to Israel in the near future

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/israel-travel-warning.html
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on February 25, 2015, 03:13:20 PM
And this is just to the people who plan on going to Israel in the near future

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/israel-travel-warning.html

Hershel, your voice is definitely needed on this forum. Honestly, you have given me "harchavas hada'as." Thank you for expanding our minds and broadening our perspective. (I still have ZERO plans of visiting Jordan, but that's besides the point! i value the PERSPECTIVE!)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 24, 2015, 11:21:01 AM
Amman Airport:
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on March 24, 2015, 11:49:15 AM
Amman Airport:


:) - Translation from GT: Jewish settlers engaged in a religious ritual at Queen Alia Airport Balerdnmistotnon Jews practicing religious rituals at the Queen Alia Airport in Jordan.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on March 24, 2015, 12:21:59 PM
:) - Translation from GT: Jewish settlers engaged in a religious ritual at Queen Alia Airport Balerdnmistotnon Jews practicing religious rituals at the Queen Alia Airport in Jordan.




Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on March 24, 2015, 12:30:52 PM
OMG, so is it safer to go now after the dancing?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on March 24, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Amman Airport:


Someone please give them flight info for RB441 & RB442.

I want to see this dance in ALP or DAM.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on March 25, 2015, 10:31:43 AM
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Hassidic-Jews-ritual-Talmudic-dance-in-Jordanian-airport-stirs-massive-controversy-395049
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on April 24, 2015, 09:20:38 AM
Anyone ever do the royal Jordanian arranged tours to Petra from AMM?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 10, 2015, 07:40:37 PM
If I'm stopping over in Jordan, and then flying RJ to Israel, would I need any type of visa ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on May 11, 2015, 05:16:37 AM
Are you planing on leaving the airport?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 11, 2015, 05:54:19 AM
If I'm stopping over in Jordan, and then flying RJ to Israel, would I need any type of visa ?
if you plan on leaving the airport and coming from USA then yes, you get it in the airport
Title: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on May 11, 2015, 10:52:01 PM
Are you planing on leaving the airport?
if you plan on leaving the airport and coming from USA then yes, you get it in the airport
thank you. I'm not planning on leaving, but if I'm switching airlines and will have to recheck luggage, then I'll still need a visa ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Suave on May 12, 2015, 08:11:41 AM
thank you. I'm not planning on leaving, but if I'm switching airlines and will have to recheck luggage, then I'll still need a visa ?
Nope, but you may have to get your new boarding pass stamped at the transfer desk (its better to have a preprinted boarding pass or at least itinerary just in case)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: avadah on May 30, 2015, 06:18:51 PM
AMM stopover from tlv-dxb. Do I need a visa (or get one in the airport) if I want to leave the airport? I'm traveling on a US passport.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 30, 2015, 06:30:31 PM
AMM stopover from tlv-dxb. Do I need a visa (or get one in the airport) if I want to leave the airport? I'm traveling on a US passport.
i believe you do
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on May 30, 2015, 08:00:55 PM
i believe you do
+1
IINM you can get it at the airport and its like 20$
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 30, 2015, 10:39:04 PM
+1
IINM you can get it at the airport and its like 20$
More like $60
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on May 30, 2015, 11:27:01 PM
AMM stopover from tlv-dxb. Do I need a visa (or get one in the airport) if I want to leave the airport? I'm traveling on a US passport.
You get one in the airport for it cost JD40
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 30, 2015, 11:28:32 PM
You get one in the airport for it cost $40
-1
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on May 30, 2015, 11:29:08 PM
More like $60
-1
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 30, 2015, 11:29:28 PM
-1
-1
You're dead wrong
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on May 30, 2015, 11:33:50 PM
I meant $40 in Jordanian Dollars
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 30, 2015, 11:35:15 PM
I meant $40 in Jordanian Dollars
Yeah, I'm sure the folks here on DDF think in JD
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on May 30, 2015, 11:35:38 PM
It's the Jordan Thread
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 30, 2015, 11:41:09 PM
It's the Jordan Thread
Than fix your post, you wrote $40, with the USD symbol
JD stands for Jordanian Dinar not dollars
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on May 30, 2015, 11:47:24 PM
Oy to much pressure
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on May 30, 2015, 11:47:46 PM
I'll give you guys each one thousand Guninean Francs to stop bickering.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on May 30, 2015, 11:49:49 PM
Don't you EVER -1 me again
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on June 10, 2015, 06:24:29 AM
http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/news/article/jordan-moves-to-spur-tourism-sector-with-visa-waiver/

visa fee waived if you stay 2 nights, im not sure how they guarantee you stay though
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: gold on June 13, 2015, 05:49:20 PM
Anyone flown on their 787 c class recently?
Any worries in transfer/lounge/on board looking frum?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on June 13, 2015, 06:03:32 PM



Any worries in transfer/lounge/on board looking frum?
No
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 13, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Anyone flown on their 787 c class recently?

ive flown on the 787, not sure which class is c though
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on June 25, 2015, 07:01:44 PM
not sure which class is c though
Crown Class, that's how RJ calls their business class.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2015, 07:09:30 PM
Crown Class, that's how RJ calls their business class.
so ive flown that on the 787
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on July 15, 2015, 11:32:10 AM
Anybody going for Ahron Hakoen yartizt?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on July 15, 2015, 12:04:04 PM
I have a 10 hr stop in amm is it safe and what's there to do
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 15, 2015, 12:49:49 PM
I have a 10 hr stop in amm is it safe
Yes
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on July 15, 2015, 01:21:47 PM
Yes
But you were shivering in your pants
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 15, 2015, 03:36:00 PM
But you were shivering in your pants

At 430am, in the pitch black, waiting with a bunch of Palestinians.... Until i realized that there is nothing to be scared of.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on July 15, 2015, 03:42:29 PM
At 430am, in the pitch black, waiting with a bunch of Palestinians.... Until i realized that there is nothing to be scared of.
There is still a need to be careful there is the there not? How were you dressed?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 15, 2015, 03:45:49 PM
There is still a need to be careful there is the there not?
?
Quote
How were you dressed?
See pic in my TR - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=53314.0
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 15, 2015, 03:47:56 PM
what's there to do

You'd be better off not sticking around AMM, go to Petra - it's an amazing thing to see.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on July 18, 2015, 04:00:01 PM
Is 8hr  enough time to go to Petra from Amm?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 18, 2015, 09:58:14 PM
Is 8hr  enough time to go to Petra from Amm?
Its minimum 2 1/2 drive by car each way
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on July 19, 2015, 10:17:21 AM
so if I don't go to Petra is there anything in Amman to do for 8hr
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 19, 2015, 02:19:33 PM
so if I don't go to Petra is there anything in Amman to do for 8hr
Not much
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on July 19, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
Thankx
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mosh47 on July 19, 2015, 05:00:27 PM
Thankx for the info
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on July 19, 2015, 05:06:33 PM
Trying to pad your post count?  ;)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on July 19, 2015, 05:49:49 PM
Trying to pad your post count?  ;)
+1
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 19, 2015, 06:38:40 PM
so if I don't go to Petra is there anything in Amman to do for 8hr
There are some nice mosques to see.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 21, 2015, 06:41:29 AM
anyone ever do a VIP border crossing? im looking into taking a taxi to AMM and have slightly less then zero interest in an annoying border crossing experience. also don't really have patience to get a visa prior, anyone go through the other borders besides allenby?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on August 21, 2015, 07:21:01 AM
anyone ever do a VIP border crossing? im looking into taking a taxi to AMM and have slightly less then zero interest in an annoying border crossing experience. also don't really have patience to get a visa prior, anyone go through the other borders besides allenby?
I  heard guys had tefillin issues by the Aqaba crossing a few weeks ago.
Btw I had no problem leaving AMM with tefillin last month.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 21, 2015, 07:27:41 AM
I  heard guys had tefillin issues by the Aqaba crossing a few weeks ago.
Btw I had no problem leaving AMM with tefillin last month.
im not worried about that
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on August 21, 2015, 09:26:55 AM
Is there anything to worry in regards to taking a taxi from the airport to Israel ? How much would a taxi cost me to yerushalayim for 3 people and multiple suitcases ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 21, 2015, 09:38:14 AM
Is there anything to worry in regards to taking a taxi from the airport to Israel ? How much would a taxi cost me to yerushalayim for 3 people and multiple suitcases ?
Nothing to be nervous about, and you would need two taxis
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on August 21, 2015, 09:41:36 AM
Is there anything to worry in regards to taking a taxi from the airport to Israel ? How much would a taxi cost me to yerushalayim for 3 people and multiple suitcases ?
Nothing to worry about in regards to safety, but it's a PITA and takes about 2 hours, unless you do the VIP service.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on August 22, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
anyone ever do a VIP border crossing? im looking into taking a taxi to AMM and have slightly less then zero interest in an annoying border crossing experience. also don't really have patience to get a visa prior, anyone go through the other borders besides allenby?
Eilat border was very smooth+ don't need a visa if you'r "only going to Aqaba"
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: harrym on August 22, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
Nothing to worry about in regards to safety, but it's a PITA and takes about 2 hours, unless you do the VIP service.
2 Hours all in, from AMM to Jerusalem?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 22, 2015, 06:52:13 PM
2 Hours all in, from AMM to Jerusalem?
No,just by the border
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: harrym on August 22, 2015, 06:54:44 PM
No,just by the border
What's total door to door?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 22, 2015, 10:30:23 PM
anyone ever do a VIP border crossing? im looking into taking a taxi to AMM and have slightly less then zero interest in an annoying border crossing experience. also don't really have patience to get a visa prior, anyone go through the other borders besides allenby?
VIP is worth every penny!!!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 22, 2015, 10:31:42 PM
What's total door to door?
its an hour to the border and another hour to Jerusalem. At the boarder that's YMMV.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on August 23, 2015, 02:05:31 AM
its an hour to the border and another hour to Jerusalem. At the boarder that's YMMV.
Took me 45 minutes from AMM to border and 30 minutes from border to Jerusalem.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 23, 2015, 02:32:12 AM
VIP is worth every penny!!!
Which service did you use?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 02:42:06 AM
Which service did you use?
vipclubs.co.il
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on August 23, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
Is there anyway for me to get from AMM to Jerusalem, with a taxi when my flight is landing at 12:30 am ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 09:28:12 PM
Is there anyway for me to get from AMM to Jerusalem, with a taxi when my flight is landing at 12:30 am ?
Check border hours first
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
Is there anyway for me to get from AMM to Jerusalem, with a taxi when my flight is landing at 12:30 am ?
you could but the boarder doesn't open till 8:00am
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on August 23, 2015, 09:40:54 PM
Any kosher food at AMM airport ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 09:44:36 PM
Any kosher food at AMM airport ?
Like stake or pizza? or just seven layer cake?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on August 23, 2015, 09:47:17 PM

Like stake or pizza? or just seven layer cake?
Very funny, do they carry any dry Israeli goods ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 09:48:30 PM
Very funny, do they carry any dry Israeli goods ?
Are you kidding me? no way!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 23, 2015, 10:00:07 PM
Are you kidding me? no way!
And yet it's so safe? I don't get the mixed messages.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 10:03:16 PM
And yet it's so safe? I don't get the mixed messages.
Having Israeli products in Jordan, and waking around in Jordan casually, are not comparable.   
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:03:47 PM
And yet it's so safe? I don't get the mixed messages.
Who said Amman is safe?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:04:26 PM
Having Israeli products in Jordan, and waking around in Jordan casually, are not comparable.   
You consider a Jew walking around Amman safe?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:05:24 PM
Having Israeli products in Jordan, and waking around in Jordan casually, are not comparable.   
Do you have personal experience " casually walking around Jordan" ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 10:06:18 PM
You consider a Jew walking around Amman safe?
Who said it was safe?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: aygart on August 23, 2015, 10:06:33 PM
Who said Amman is safe?
From someone who visited Iran
You consider a Jew walking around Amman safe?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 23, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
So, as long as I don't whip out a bag of bambas I'm okay? What about Bisli?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:15:28 PM
From someone who visited Iran
1. Strolling the streets of Tehran is safer than strolling the streets of Amman.

The danger of going to Iran is not the people of Iran, its the  government, VS Jordan, where the government has diplomatic relations with Israel vs the people.

70% + of Jordanians are Palestinian, many of them still considered refugees living in refugee camps.

I wouldn't recommend anyone travel to Israel Via Amman, unless you're travel savvy and adventurous.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:15:59 PM
Who said it was safe?
You're somehow giving that impression
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on August 23, 2015, 10:16:36 PM
If it ain't safe to walk around , then why does everybody make it sound like its no big deal to take a taxi to Israel ?
What's stopping the driver  from going all Allah Akbar on you ?!?!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 10:20:50 PM
If it ain't safe to walk around , then why does everybody make it sound like its no big deal to take a taxi to Israel ?
What's stopping the driver  from going all Allah Akbar on you ?!?!
You don't have tell anyone that your Jewish, you can be a regular tourist.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 23, 2015, 10:23:16 PM
Thank you Hershel for the clarification as well as the fascinating insight.

Chevra, this thread isn't a joke. You can be all coy on other threads, but please, on a thread that is nogeia to people's safety, don't make a statement that is not clear and readily understood.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:26:14 PM
If it ain't safe to walk around , then why does everybody make it sound like its no big deal to take a taxi to Israel ?
What's stopping the driver  from going all Allah Akbar on you ?!?!
Put it this way, if you're afraid to go don't go, you will pee in your pants. Swear.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:27:43 PM


Chevra, this thread isn't a joke. You can be all coy on other threads, but please, on a thread that is nogeia to people's safety, don't make a statement that is not clear and readily understood.
+1
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on August 23, 2015, 10:28:45 PM


you will pee in your pants. Swear.
literally!

Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 23, 2015, 10:32:56 PM
So now do I have to go back and re-read the Dubai thread with a grain of salt?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on August 23, 2015, 10:37:16 PM
So now do I have to go back and re-read the Dubai thread with a grain of salt?
Dubai is much safer than Jordan
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on August 23, 2015, 10:47:11 PM
Dubai is much safer than Jordan
+1 - In Dubai you feel safer. When I was in Jordan I was on edge the whole time. Even Qatar felt safer then Jordan. As Hershel pointed out in Jordan it's the average guy on the street that can be an issue. Just look back at the massacre in Jordan of the Jewish girls (granted that it was in 1997 and it was a soldier ym"sh).
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on August 23, 2015, 10:48:10 PM
So bottom line... Hershel says not to fly into Amman if it makes you uncomfortable or you will 100% end up peeing in your pants. If you are comfortable going, that's fine but don't walk around Amman. The airport itself is okay. Taking a cab across the border is okay. Petra is okay.

Yes or no?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 24, 2015, 03:50:14 AM
In my opinion. Anything you will be doing touristy as well as transit is relatively safe and no issue. In the many talks I had with Jordanians they made it seem like their main hatred is Israeli not as much Jewish. I said I was Jewish and they always asked "from Israel?"
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on August 24, 2015, 04:04:29 AM
Funniest moment I had in Jordan was when some arab woman came up to us with her son and asked for tzedaka saying: "I need money, please, I am pelestinian".
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on August 24, 2015, 07:30:14 AM
In my opinion. Anything you will be doing touristy as well as transit is relatively safe and no issue. In the many talks I had with Jordanians they made it seem like their main hatred is Israeli not as much Jewish. I said I was Jewish and they always asked "from Israel?"
The tourism economy in Jordan barely exists.
I went to the citadel and there were a few Asians.
I went to the Royal car museum and there were a couple other people there.
I walked around rainbow street and a souk and maybe saw 10 tourists.
These are the only things for tourists to do in Amman.
This was a few weeks ago. Maybe there are more popular times?
As far as safety goes, I was never nervous.
Though I still wouldn't recommend leaving the airport if your a family or you look Jewish.
Though I don't see any issue transiting AMM without leaving the airport.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on August 24, 2015, 07:43:45 AM
The tourism economy in Jordan barely exists.
I went to the citadel and there were a few Asians.
I went to the Royal car museum and there were a couple other people there.
I walked around rainbow street and a souk and maybe saw 10 tourists.
These are the only things for tourists to do in Amman.
This was a few weeks ago. Maybe there are more popular times?
As far as safety goes, I was never nervous.
Though I still wouldn't recommend leaving the airport if your a family or you look Jewish.
Though I don't see any issue transiting AMM without leaving the airport.
Seems you barely hit up the tourist sector. While it isn't the US, Jordan gets over 6 million tourists a year as opposed to Israel's slightly over 3. Not to shabby and def not a "barely existing tourism economy"
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on September 08, 2015, 10:06:12 AM

Seems you barely hit up the tourist sector. While it isn't the US, Jordan gets over 6 million tourists a year as opposed to Israel's slightly over 3. Not to shabby and def not a "barely existing tourism economy"
i was there no 6 mill tourist the place is empty 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 08, 2015, 10:10:22 AM
i was there no 6 mill tourist the place is empty
I wasn't pulling a number out of a hat, whether you saw them or not doesnt negate the facts
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on September 08, 2015, 10:12:12 AM

I wasn't pulling a number out of a hat, whether you saw them or not doesnt negate the facts
all I know was in Petra I spoke with locals they said tourism is dead
And in Amman hotels told me tourism is pretty slow more business travel so unless they are staying in hostels and in local houses were are 6 mill people staying?
In jerusalem every hotel is full 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 08, 2015, 10:15:38 AM
all I know was in Petra I spoke with locals they said tourism is dead
And in Amman hotels told me tourism is pretty slow more business travel so unless they are staying in hostels and in local houses were are 6 mill people staying?
In jerusalem every hotel is full
A good portion of them are day trippers.
Tourism has def gone down as it used to be more them 6 million.
Also Jordan's 90,000 KM is slightly larger then Israel's 20,000 do its way more spread out 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: plainbachur on September 08, 2015, 10:18:35 AM

A good portion of them are day trippers.
Tourism has def gone down as it used to be more them 6 million.
Also Jordan's 90,000 KM is slightly larger then Israel's 20,000 do its way more spread out
when was it more jordan is currently in it's most peaceful time in 20 years also it's very hard to be a day tripper and go from Amman to Petra and back and catch a flight and the only way to do it is from eliat and that border crossing was pretty slow mostly workers came thru
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 08, 2015, 10:26:57 AM
when was it more jordan is currently in it's most peaceful time in 20 years also it's very hard to be a day tripper and go from Amman to Petra and back and catch a flight and the only way to do it is from eliat and that border crossing was pretty slow mostly workers came thru
2010 and 2012. One third are day trippers. You have access to the same Google as me
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 09, 2015, 12:59:57 PM
Are there reputable taxis from yerushalayim, to AMM ? If yes, do you need a visa to get in ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 09, 2015, 01:01:24 PM
Are there reputable taxis from yerushalayim, to AMM ? If yes, do you need a visa to get in ?
You would need a separate Taxi from the border.

Yes,  you need a visa
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 02:02:46 PM
Are there reputable taxis from yerushalayim, to AMM ? If yes, do you need a visa to get in ?

I know @hershelsdeals already answered your question but just FYI FWIW TLV-AMM on RJ is 4,500 avios
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 02:18:06 PM
I know @hershelsdeals already answered your question but just FYI FWIW TLV-AMM on RJ is 4,500 avios
Problem is, from what I've seen recently there is zero Y availability on that route.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 09, 2015, 02:18:51 PM
Problem is, from what I've seen recently there is zero Y availability on that route.
Same here.

Only for 9K avios for J
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 02:19:35 PM
Problem is, from what I've seen recently there is zero Y availability on that route.
J is 9k Avios.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 02:27:51 PM
Same here.

Only for 9K avios
J is 9k Avios.
Yep and once you're talking about 9k avios instead of 4.5k, you'd get a better deal going over the border, if the timing worked out for you. Although flying would probably be more convenient.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 09, 2015, 02:28:43 PM
Yep and once you're talking about 9k avios instead of 4.5k, you'd get a better deal going over the border, if the timing worked out for you. Although flying would probably be more convenient.
-1

The visa would cost you $60, Plus transportation to and from border, 9k is a no brainer


Plus the waiting time to pass the border and the border itself is a major PITA
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 02:29:45 PM
Yep and once you're talking about 9k avios instead of 4.5k, you'd get a better deal going over the border, if the timing worked out for you. Although flying would probably be more convenient.

Are you serious? You have to be crazy to cab over the border instead of using 9k Avios.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
Plus the waiting time to pass the border and the border itself is a major PITA
"PITA" is putting it mildly.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 09, 2015, 02:31:05 PM
PITA is putting it mildly.
Yep
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 02:31:39 PM
Yep
I guess with VIP service it's just a "PITA".
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on September 09, 2015, 02:32:21 PM
Are you serious? You have to be crazy to cab over the border instead of using 9k Avios.

+1 million
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
-1

The visa would cost you $60, Plus transportation to and from border, 9k is a no brainer
True the money for the visa (I think it's $70 now) would make it not worth it. I was thinking for someone that was going to Jordan as a destination and would be getting a visa anyway.
Are you serious? You have to be crazy to cab over the border instead of using 9k Avios.
-0.5 It probably depends on the day, how big of a PITA it is. When I did it 2.5 weeks ago it wasn't much of a PITA compared to going to the airport and flying.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 09, 2015, 02:45:02 PM
True the money for the visa (I think it's $70 now) would make it not worth it. I was thinking for someone that was going to Jordan as a destination and would be getting a visa anyway.

Right, if you gotta pay the visa anyway, than probably cheaper to cab it, than 9k avios plus all airport cabs.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
True the money for the visa (I think it's $70 now) would make it not worth it. I was thinking for someone that was going to Jordan as a destination and would be getting a visa anyway.
It's 40 JOD

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-0.5 It probably depends on the day, how big of a PITA it is. When I did it 2.5 weeks ago it wasn't much of a PITA compared to going to the airport and flying.
Not a "PITA"? How long did it take from the time you got to the Jordanian border terminal until you were outside the Israeli border terminal?
How many times did you need to ask someone where you're supposed to be and they give you this look as if English isn't a language?
How long did you have to wait on the bus until they filled up so they don't waste gas on a 2 minute drive?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 02:52:36 PM
Right, if you gotta pay the visa anyway, than probably cheaper to cab it, than 9k avios plus all airport cabs.
You'll anyways need to pay for a cab to the border and from border to wherever your going in Israel.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 09, 2015, 03:19:35 PM
You'll anyways need to pay for a cab to the border and from border to wherever your going in Israel.

Like I said in addition. Choice 1 is to take one can from Jerusalem to Jordan and another from Jordan to Amman. Choice 2, is to take a cab to TLV, 9k avios, another cab from AMM to the city.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
Like I said in addition. Choice 1 is to take one can from Jerusalem to Jordan and another from Jordan to Amman. Choice 2, is to take a cab to TLV, 9k avios, another cab from AMM to the city.
The cabs in Israel aren't cans, the cabs in Jordan on the other hand... ;)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 03:28:06 PM
It's 40 JOD
Thanks. I remembered incorrectly, my bad. Hershel is right, it is closer to $60. In fairness though, I did have to buy visas to 4 different countries in a span of 5 days, so it's hard to remember the details by each of them :P
Not a "PITA"? How long did it take from the time you got to the Jordanian border terminal until you were outside the Israeli border terminal?
How many times did you need to ask someone where you're supposed to be and they give you this look as if English isn't a language?
How long did you have to wait on the bus until they filled up so they don't waste gas on a 2 minute drive?
1. IIRC 2 hours, and maybe slightly less. About an hour of it was waiting in an air conditioned room with seating (like waiting for a flight) while they waited until enough people came to fill up the bus.
2. Zero. The guy on the Jordan side was actually pretty friendly and chilled, and was schmoozing with the people waiting and cracking jokes etc.
3. We didn't have to wait on the bus. We were able to wait inside until we were ready to leave.

Don't get me wrong, I believe you guys and understand how it would be completely different if the place was busy (or if the workers didn't speak English or were unhelpful), when I went though, that wasn't the case.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 09, 2015, 03:28:28 PM


If yes, do you need a visa to get in ?
Only need a visa by Allenby bridge and only from Jerusalem to Jordan not the other way
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 03:30:19 PM
The cabs in Israel aren't cans, the cabs in Jordan on the other hand... ;)
Lol
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 03:33:05 PM
Only need a visa by Allenby bridge and only from Jerusalem to Jordan not the other way

You need a visa by all of the crossings to get into Jordan. It's just that Allenby is the only crossing where you can't get a visa by the crossing.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 09, 2015, 03:42:14 PM
You need a visa by all of the crossings to get into Jordan. It's just that Allenby is the only crossing where you can't get a visa by the crossing.
Same   different
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 03:47:15 PM
Same <img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji90.png" />  different <img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji372.png" />
Agreed. :) Was just pointing that out in case someone would read your post and go to a different border crossing thinking that they didn't have to pay for a visa :P
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 09, 2015, 03:56:30 PM
Thanks for all the response. It seems there ain't ever any Y available on TLV-AMM, only J. The problem I'm having is that I'll need the morning flight, and as of now only the evening flight is available.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 04:00:50 PM
Thanks for all the response. It seems there ain't ever any Y available on TLV-AMM, only J. The problem I'm having is that I'll need the morning flight, and as of now only the evening flight is available.
Don't count on availability opening closer in, as RJ  isn't always so good with that. You might have to make other plans.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 04:01:07 PM
1. IIRC 2 hours, and maybe slightly less.
And that's not a PITA?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 09, 2015, 04:08:47 PM
And that's not a PITA?
It is. I just don't think it's more of a PITA than going to TLV, waiting in the airport, and catching a flight to Jordan.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on September 09, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
The cabs in Israel aren't cans, the cabs in Jordan on the other hand... ;)

Lol, letters right near each other on keyboard ;)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on September 09, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
@Emkay
You DO NOT need to pay for a visa by the Eilat crossing!!!
Aqaba is a free trade zone so as long as you say that youre only going there, you won't pay for a visa.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 09, 2015, 04:32:39 PM
@Emkay
You DO NOT need to pay for a visa by the Eilat crossing!!!
Aqaba is a free trade zone so as long as you say that youre only going there, you won't pay for a visa.
Correct, but that *officially* won't help if you want to go to AMM.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on September 09, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
@Emkay
You DO NOT need to pay for a visa by the Eilat crossing!!!
Aqaba is a free trade zone so as long as you say that youre only going there, you won't pay for a visa.
I'm not sure where I said otherwise
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on September 09, 2015, 07:02:37 PM
I'm not sure where I said otherwise
Sorry, you're right. I guess I am yelling at this guy
You need a visa by all of the crossings to get into Jordan. It's just that Allenby is the only crossing where you can't get a visa by the crossing.
Agreed. :) Was just pointing that out in case someone would read your post and go to a different border crossing thinking that they didn't have to pay for a visa :P

@Tom Brady
YOU ARE WRONG!!!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on September 09, 2015, 07:06:42 PM
Correct, but that *officially* won't help if you want to go to AMM.
Why not?
Border guy: Where are you going?
Yeshiva guy looking to save a few bucks: Aqaba!
Border guy: Here is your visa
Yeshiva guy: Thanks. Taxi!!!
Taxi guy: Where to?
Yeshiva guy: AMM airport!
And they all lived happily ever after.

Until they got pulled over by some ISIS militants....
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 10, 2015, 02:31:00 AM
Sorry, you're right. I guess I am yelling at this guy
@Tom Brady
YOU ARE WRONG!!!
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 10, 2015, 04:48:18 AM
Why not?
Border guy: Where are you going?
Yeshiva guy looking to save a few bucks: Aqaba!
Border guy: Here is your visa
Yeshiva guy: Thanks. Taxi!!!
Taxi guy: Where to?
Yeshiva guy: AMM airport!
And they all lived happily ever after.

Until they got pulled over by some ISIS militants....

It seems you missed the word "*officially*" in my post.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Drago on September 10, 2015, 07:36:59 AM
I thought YQ on the route was pricey.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on September 10, 2015, 09:33:20 AM
I thought YQ on the route was pricey.
Just looked it up. YQ looks to be about $50 in addition to the $26 Israeli departure tax, for TLV - AMM.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on September 10, 2015, 12:41:56 PM
Just looked it up. YQ looks to be about $50 in addition to the $26 Israeli departure tax, for TLV - AMM.
+1. I paid $80.06
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on September 16, 2015, 06:19:15 AM
If anyone is going to jordan in the next couple months please PM me.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on October 15, 2015, 12:49:03 AM
Jordan Detained 3 Bochurim, Now Freed
Three Chabad Yeshiva students were detained at Queen Alia International Airport in Amman, Jordan by Jordanian police to be questioned, during a flight stopover en route to New York to spend Tishrei by the Rebbe.
The incident occurred after the students began handing out literature about the importance of adhering to the Sheva Mitzvos, an act which alarmed one of the kingdom’s security officers, who mistakenly believed it contains messages that incite against the kingdom or call for a revolution.
The same literature is routinely distributed to Arab populations in Israel and beyond without incident. Many Arabs who have been exposed to the Sheva Mitzvos have resolves to keep to it.
The students were interrogated by multiple Jordanian investigators for hours in the presence of a translator, and under the careful watch of Jordanian police.
After a thorough explanation of the Sheva Mitzvos, and that its practice does not require the abandoning of the Muslim faith, the students were released.
http://chabadinfo.com/news/jordan-detained-3-bochurim-now-freed/

Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on October 15, 2015, 01:06:02 AM
2010 and 2012. One third are day trippers. You have access to the same Google as me
Are those day trippers Israeli?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on October 15, 2015, 01:14:36 AM
Jordan Detained 3 Bochurim, Now Freed
Three Chabad Yeshiva students were detained at Queen Alia International Airport in Amman, Jordan by Jordanian police to be questioned, during a flight stopover en route to New York to spend Tishrei by the Rebbe.
The incident occurred after the students began handing out literature about the importance of adhering to the Sheva Mitzvos, an act which alarmed one of the kingdom’s security officers, who mistakenly believed it contains messages that incite against the kingdom or call for a revolution.
The same literature is routinely distributed to Arab populations in Israel and beyond without incident. Many Arabs who have been exposed to the Sheva Mitzvos have resolves to keep to it.
The students were interrogated by multiple Jordanian investigators for hours in the presence of a translator, and under the careful watch of Jordanian police.
After a thorough explanation of the Sheva Mitzvos, and that its practice does not require the abandoning of the Muslim faith, the students were released.
http://chabadinfo.com/news/jordan-detained-3-bochurim-now-freed/

Not a reliable website.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on October 15, 2015, 01:48:02 AM
Not a reliable website.

 The story is probably true, as the bochurim look like they are pro that website.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 15, 2015, 12:05:29 PM
actually laughed. awesome story
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 15, 2015, 12:43:07 PM
And then because of crazies like these, people think Arab countries aren't safe...
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 15, 2015, 12:47:45 PM

And then because of crazies like these, people think Arab countries aren't safe...

Just because they are crazy doesn't mean Arab countries are safe
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mmm740 on December 01, 2015, 10:47:07 PM
A few questions about traveling from AMM to Isarel by car:
How much should a taxi cost from AMM to the border?
Do you need to order VIP service or you can just show up?
Are there regular Israeli taxis on the other side?
TIA
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on December 01, 2015, 10:58:00 PM
A few questions about traveling from AMM to Isarel by car:
How much should a taxi cost from AMM to the border?
Do you need to order VIP service or you can just show up?
Are there regular Israeli taxis on the other side?
TIA
1. IIRC my taxi ride from the GH Amman to the border was 35 JD, they may try to overcharge from the airport but you can negotiate like in Israel.

2. You can just show up.

3. I would definitely assume so, though I don't specifically remember seeing a taxi there. I took a sheirut.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mmm740 on December 01, 2015, 10:59:42 PM
1. IIRC my taxi ride from the GH Amman to the border was 35 JD, they may try to overcharge from the airport but you can negotiate like in Israel.

2. You can just show up.

3. I would definitely assume so, though I don't specifically remember seeing a taxi there. I took a sheirut.
Thanks
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 01, 2015, 11:08:52 PM
A few questions about traveling from AMM to Isarel by car:
How much should a taxi cost from AMM to the border?
Do you need to order VIP service or you can just show up?
Are there regular Israeli taxis on the other side?
TIA

1. IIRC my taxi ride from the GH Amman to the border was 35 JD, they may try to overcharge from the airport but you can negotiate like in Israel.

2. You can just show up.

3. I would definitely assume so, though I don't specifically remember seeing a taxi there. I took a sheirut.
There are Taxis on the Israeli side
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 02, 2015, 12:59:57 AM
A few questions about traveling from AMM to Isarel by car:
How much should a taxi cost from AMM to the border?
Do you need to order VIP service or you can just show up?
Are there regular Israeli taxis on the other side?
TIA
1. I paid $50 USD
2. You can just show up, but it's a real PITA.
3. Yes
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
Deported from Jordan for having yarmulkes.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4737862,00.html
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 08:52:28 PM
Deported from Jordan for having yarmulkes.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4737862,00.html

It's forsure missing some crucial details...
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 08:53:56 PM
It's forsure missing some crucial details...
No. Kippas are banned in Jordan
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3976092,00.html
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
No. Kippas are banned in Jordan

Source?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 08:54:39 PM
Source?
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3976092,00.html
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 08:56:02 PM
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3976092,00.html

I didn't know ynet was a source for law.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 08:57:46 PM
I didn't know ynet was a source for law.
Times of Israel 2012
Jordan warns Israelis not to visit wearing ‘Jew clothes’
Tourism ministry in Amman wary of unfriendly reactions to Jewish dress or rituals in public places.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/jordan-warns-israelis-not-to-visit-wearing-jew-clothes/
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 09:00:02 PM
Interesting. I didn't have any issue coming in with tefilin and a yarmulka a few times.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 09:00:36 PM
Interesting. I didn't have any issue coming in with tefilin and a yarmulka a few times.
Yarmulka under your cap is OK
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 09:01:18 PM
Yarmulka under your cap is OK

Not according to this article.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3976092,00.html
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 09:03:24 PM
Not according to this article.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3976092,00.html
"But when the man saw the yarmulkes"

If its not exposed they want bother you.

Only if its considered.
"obvious Israeli identification"
It's a problem
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 09:07:28 PM
"But when the man saw the yarmulkes"

If its not exposed they want bother you.

Only if its considered.
"obvious Israeli identification"

"The man in the counter asked us to take off our hats and we thought it was standard procedure for passport control. But when the man saw the yarmulkes....."

Seems like yarmulka under hat would be an issue too.

How about tefilin? If only exposed Jewish articles are an issue, who exposed their tefilin at a border crossing?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on December 10, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
Next they make you take your pants off..
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
Next they make you take your pants off..

Won't help. Muslims look the same in that area.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 09:13:13 PM
Next they make you take your pants off..
-1

Muslim inside the pants is no different than Jewish ones.

Unless they would target children.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 09:13:37 PM
Won't help. Muslims look the same in that area.
How do you know?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 09:14:40 PM
Muslim inside the pants is no different than Jewish ones.

Unless they would target children.

How do you know?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on December 10, 2015, 09:15:21 PM
You know, I am kind of disappointed, disgusted maybe, by this thread right now.
For months we've had all sorts of people posting how it's fine to go to Jordan and even mocking those who even ASK if it's safe.

Now we find out the truth, that if you go you have to hide your yarmulka on under a baseball cap.

Nobody thought to MENTION that?

And then it struck me... perhaps that's normal attire for most of the forum members here? Is it just a dovor haposhut that you look like stam some American tourist?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 10, 2015, 09:16:29 PM
You know, I am kind of disappointed, disgusted maybe, by this thread right now.
For months we've had all sorts of people posting how it's fine to go to Jordan and even mocking those who even ASK if it's safe.

Now we find out the truth, that if you go you have to hide your yarmulka on under a baseball cap.

Nobody thought to MENTION that?

And then it struck me... perhaps that's normal attire for most of the forum members here? Is it just a dovor haposhut that you look like stam some American tourist?

You're going off topic, we started discussing something else.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 10, 2015, 09:16:41 PM
You know, I am kind of disappointed, disgusted maybe, by this thread right now.
For months we've had all sorts of people posting how it's fine to go to Jordan and even mocking those who even ASK if it's safe.

Now we find out the truth, that if you go you have to hide your yarmulka on under a baseball cap.

Nobody thought to MENTION that?

And then it struck me... perhaps that's normal attire for most of the forum members here? Is it just a dovor haposhut that you look like stam some American tourist?
-1

It was mentioned

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2581.msg1241796.msg#1241796

Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on December 10, 2015, 11:00:09 PM

And then it struck me... perhaps that's normal attire for most of the forum members here? Is it just a dovor haposhut that you look like stam some American tourist?

Ok it totally is off topic, but I'm honestly shocked that you wouldn't have understood this implicitly.  I'm sitting in sunny, super safe Orlando right now and even here most of the frum men and boys I saw around at attractions had baseball caps on and had their "tourist" outfits on, Ca'Muvon in most Arab countries, people do that!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on December 11, 2015, 01:15:53 AM

Ok it totally is off topic, but I'm honestly shocked that you wouldn't have understood this implicitly.  I'm sitting in sunny, super safe Orlando right now and even here most of the frum men and boys I saw around at attractions had baseball caps on and had their "tourist" outfits on, Ca'Muvon in most Arab countries, people do that!
+1   If I understand correctly the reason behind the policy not to let tfillin in is not because they have anything against it but to protect you. That's not to say it's dangerous per say but you definitely can't walk around like your in the Armenian Shuk
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 11, 2015, 02:53:38 AM
How do you know?
Ynet told him
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Freddie on December 11, 2015, 10:48:02 AM
Ok it totally is off topic, but I'm honestly shocked that you wouldn't have understood this implicitly.  I'm sitting in sunny, super safe Orlando right now and even here most of the frum men and boys I saw around at attractions had baseball caps on and had their "tourist" outfits on, Ca'Muvon in most Arab countries, people do that!

Well I'm shocked right back at you, the other way around. Tourist outfits?

If you guys were a bunch of Reform Jews from Masapequa, I wouldn't bat an eye. But I'm kind of shocked and saddened that people who are "frum" just take it as a dovor haposhut that you dress like a goy on "vacation."

In fact, its so opgeleigt by you all that even in a discussion dealing with safety, nobody feels the need to bavorn each and every time, "oh yeah, BTW, we are saying it's safe if you are in your 'assimilation costume.' Don't dare have so much as a kipa sruga poking out of your cap, let alone wear your borsalino."
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on December 29, 2015, 02:36:27 PM
this link vipclubs.co.il does not work.
any other info for VIP service AMM- TLV ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
this link vipclubs.co.il does not work.
any other info for VIP service AMM- TLV ?

You mean VIP service from AMM to the border?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on December 29, 2015, 02:48:32 PM
You mean VIP service from AMM to the border?
I guess.
And how do you get to destination once you crossed.
Anyone to write this in detail ?
Please
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 02:52:14 PM
And how do you get to destination once you crossed.
Anyone to write this in detail ?
Please

Cab or tender
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on December 29, 2015, 03:02:12 PM
Cab or tender
Cabs stand around ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on December 29, 2015, 03:09:59 PM
Cabs stand around ?
call one before, probably cheaper
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on December 29, 2015, 03:25:07 PM
Cabs stand around ?
Yes. 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 29, 2015, 05:57:46 PM
call one before, probably cheaper

Was the same price when I was there.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 06, 2016, 01:00:27 PM
Can someone with experience advise on the
1) easiest
2) safest
3) quickest
way to travel from Jerusalem to Amman overland?
Please provide approximate costs as well.  Thanks. 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 06, 2016, 01:01:38 PM
Can someone with experience advise on the
1) easiest
2) safest
3) quickest
way to travel from Jerusalem to Amman overland?
Please provide approximate costs as well.  Thanks.

Flying is -
1) Easiest
2) Safest
3) Quickest
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 06, 2016, 01:02:36 PM
Flying is -
1) Easiest
2) Safest
3) Quickest
Obviously.  But I'm asking about overland. 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 06, 2016, 01:04:37 PM
Flying is -
1) Easiest
2) Safest
3) Quickest
BTW, how much longer is traveling overland from Jerusalem versus getting from Jerusalem to TLV, checking in and waiting for flight and flying?  Door-to-door how long should Jerusalem-Amman take overland?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 06, 2016, 01:10:59 PM
BTW, how much longer is traveling overland from Jerusalem versus getting from Jerusalem to TLV, checking in and waiting for flight and flying?  Door-to-door how long should Jerusalem-Amman take overland?

Are you also taking into consideration the time it takes to go to a Jordanian consulate and obtain a visa?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 06, 2016, 01:38:55 PM
Can someone with experience advise on the
1) easiest
2) safest
3) quickest
way to travel from Jerusalem to Amman overland?
Please provide approximate costs as well.  Thanks.
the easiest and most convenient option entails getting  visa prior, are you fine with that?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 06, 2016, 01:41:29 PM
the easiest and most convenient option entails getting  visa prior, are you fine with that?
Perhaps.  Trying to figure out if it's worth it. 
Are you also taking into consideration the time it takes to go to a Jordanian consulate and obtain a visa?
True.  But that can be done at your convenience...
Are there tour companies (VIP etc) that arrange that?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 06, 2016, 01:42:42 PM
Obviously.  But I'm asking about overland.
I beleive the beit She'an crossing gives visas on the spot. So does Aravah which is farther away.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 06, 2016, 01:45:59 PM
I beleive the beit She'an crossing gives visas on the spot. So does Aravah which is farther away.

Jerusalem to Aravah = 3.5 hours driving.
Getting across border = minimum 1/2 hour.
Border to Amman = 3.5 hours driving.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 06, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
Why don't you want to fly?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 06, 2016, 01:55:38 PM
Jerusalem to Aravah = 3.5 hours driving.
Getting across border = minimum 1/2 hour.
Border to Amman = 3.5 hours driving.
Jerusalem to beit She'an is 1:40 and from there to amman can't b more than 2 hours so that's the easiest land crossing for someone without a visa.
But like D93 said, flying is way simpler.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 06, 2016, 02:00:23 PM
Jerusalem to beit She'an is 1:40 and from there to amman can't b more than 2 hours so that's the easiest land crossing for someone without a visa.
But like D93 said, flying is way simpler.

Are you positive you can obtain a visa by Beit She'an?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 06, 2016, 02:05:50 PM
Are you positive you can obtain a visa by Beit She'an?
i believe out of the 6 crossing options the only one you need in advance is the Allenby crossing from Israel to Jordan
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 06, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
Why don't you want to fly?
No BA options available.  Considering cash. Want to know if the schlep/experience is worth it. 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 06, 2016, 02:35:49 PM
No BA options available.  Considering cash. Want to know if the schlep/experience is worth it.
Also, just not good times even with cash. 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on January 06, 2016, 02:59:41 PM
going to pop in because planning the Bait Shaan Crossing AMM  to Israel
take a cab from AMM to the border, What do I tell the Driver ? What's that border called ? Shaike Hussain ?
hours ?
cabs on that side too ?
rent a car in Tverye !

makes sense ?
any input ?
a little nervous :)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on January 06, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
going to pop in because planning the Bait Shaan Crossing AMM  to Israel
take a cab from AMM to the border, What do I tell the Driver ? What's that border called ? Shaike Hussain ?
hours ?
cabs on that side too ?
rent a car in Tverye !

makes sense ?
any input ?
a little nervous :)
When going AMM-jerusalem you an cross on the Allenby/king Hussein bridge.
No need to go all the way up to beit She'an.
You'll get your visa in AMM.(for $60ish) and they do take CC.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 12, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
Does RJ put you up free in a hotel overnight if you are flying TLV-AMM-AUH etc arriving in AMM at 11pm and departing at 9am? What is the tickets are on two PNRs (cash to AMM and award ticket out)?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 27, 2016, 05:11:15 PM
Jordan reportedly confirms ban on bringing Jewish religious clothing into kingdom
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.699926?v=1449AE647907A869DD8123DD9FD079A4
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 27, 2016, 05:14:30 PM
Jordan reportedly confirms ban on bringing Jewish religious clothing into kingdom
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.699926?v=1449AE647907A869DD8123DD9FD079A4

Wow!

But something sounds strange, both you and I have been to Jordan many times and have never experienced any such issues.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on January 27, 2016, 05:17:51 PM
..to protect the tourists' safety..

LOL
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 27, 2016, 05:18:45 PM
..to protect the tourists' safety..

LOL

Why is that "LOL"? They don't want the tourists to be attacked by the Palestinian refugees.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on January 27, 2016, 05:19:25 PM

Why is that "LOL"? They don't want them to be attacked.

Have you been attacked when running around there?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 27, 2016, 05:20:20 PM
Have you been attacked when running around there?

No, but I didn't run around with my tzitzis flying and kippa showing.
Title: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on January 27, 2016, 05:22:36 PM
No, but I didn't run around with my tzitzis flying and kippa showing.

It seems that there must have been an issue in order to suddenly implement this new rule but I haven't really heard any negative reports coming out of Jordan about Jews being attacked.

Because this doesn't protect travelers in the sense of them being safe when there. It makes them not come in in the first place. If that is the "protection" they are looking to provide, it ain't really protection.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on January 27, 2016, 05:25:05 PM
It seems that there must have been an issue in order to suddenly implement this new rule but I haven't really heard any negative reports coming out of Jordan about Jews being attacked.

And I haven't heard any reports of Jews running around Jordan in their full Jewish garb either.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on January 27, 2016, 05:30:01 PM
And I haven't heard any reports of Jews running around Jordan in their full Jewish garb either.
Wasn't there Bresliv guys dancing in AMM?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 27, 2016, 05:37:35 PM
Wasn't there Bresliv guys dancing in AMM?
On a transfer
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on January 28, 2016, 01:26:10 PM
In AMM airport will they cause issues with religious articles?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on January 28, 2016, 01:28:13 PM
In AMM airport will they cause issues with religious articles?
Aren't known to
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on January 28, 2016, 02:36:37 PM
In AMM airport will they cause issues with religious articles?
Not if they are concealed
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on January 28, 2016, 02:58:21 PM
Not if they are concealed

Aren't known to
Are you talking about transferring or customs at AMM?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: philbenjoe on January 31, 2016, 12:23:21 PM
A stopover in AMM arriving from TLV.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on February 04, 2016, 02:59:34 PM
Any reasonably valid concern for religious Jews with religious articles in luggage (not flaunted, but there), entering Amman and spending a couple days there?
Would appreciate input from personal experience versus news articles. 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 04, 2016, 04:17:32 PM


Any reasonably valid concern for religious Jews with religious articles in luggage (not flaunted, but there), entering Amman and spending a couple days there?
Would appreciate input from personal experience versus news articles.

If your Jewish ID is concealed there is no difference between a Jew and non Jew.

Religious articles in luggage is only a potential issue with authorities if they open your luggage, but they probably won't do anything to you if you're in transit, and the worst thing that can happen is that they will deny entry if try to enter the country.

Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on February 04, 2016, 05:39:33 PM

If your Jewish ID is concealed there is no difference between a Jew and non Jew.

Religious articles in luggage is only a potential issue with authorities if they open your luggage, but they probably won't do anything to you if you're in transit, and the worst thing that can happen is that they will deny entry if try to enter the country.
If plan is to enter country for a couple days, how likely they inspect luggage?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 04, 2016, 05:51:46 PM
If plan is to enter country for a couple days, how likely they inspect luggage?
YMMV
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on February 13, 2016, 06:06:31 PM
Like others said, it's YMMV if they open it and YMMV if they will care about teffilin. FWIW they didn't check my luggage when I went into Amman.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 13, 2016, 06:31:15 PM
FWIW they didn't check my luggage when I went into Amman.
+1
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on February 14, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
If anybody is going through AMM soon or knows someone who is please PM me.
I lost my jordan shotglass and would like them to buy me one. TIA
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on February 14, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
If anybody is going through AMM soon or knows someone who is please PM me.
I lost my jordan shotglass and would like them to buy me one. TIA
Just buy one here


Jordan Flag Shot Glass https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005F1UZE0/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_awd_HPpWwbR4J9CH7
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on February 14, 2016, 05:34:43 PM

Just buy one here


Jordan Flag Shot Glass https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005F1UZE0/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_awd_HPpWwbR4J9CH7
I bought one of those for Burma cuz I couldn't find a shotglass when I was there. But you just can't compare that to this: (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160214/50efbf4092df4d4985e714bc4e73a76f.jpg)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 14, 2016, 05:47:13 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160214/50efbf4092df4d4985e714bc4e73a76f.jpg)

👆 🚨 PLAGIARISM אלעֶרט 🚨
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on February 14, 2016, 05:49:21 PM
👆 🚨 PLAGIARISM אלעֶרט 🚨
I was thinking of saying whoever deserves the photo credits should come forward.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 14, 2016, 06:02:10 PM
👆 🚨 PLAGIARISM אלעֶרט 🚨

...and yet the irony of this is how D93 uses MY "👆 🚨 PLAGIARISM אלעֶרט 🚨" meme (or Batchyism, if you will), and doesn't give me credit, either. Pot, meet kettle...
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 14, 2016, 06:04:17 PM
...and yet the irony of this is how D93 uses MY "👆 🚨 PLAGIARISM אלעֶרט 🚨" meme (or Batchyism, if you will), and doesn't give me credit, either. Pot, meet kettle...

2 wrongs make a right :)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 19, 2016, 05:16:42 AM
Which hotel to stay at in Amman - Grand Hyatt, Le Meridian, Sheraton or IC?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 19, 2016, 05:48:09 AM
Which hotel to stay at in Amman - Grand Hyatt, Le Meridian, Sheraton or IC?
Is it mainly as a transit hotel at night forvor are you being based out of there for a little?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 19, 2016, 05:49:20 AM
Is it mainly as a transit hotel at night forvor are you being based out of there for a little?

The former, but they are all the same distance to the airport.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 19, 2016, 05:54:13 AM
The former, but they are all the same distance to the airport.
So just go for the cheapest
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 19, 2016, 05:57:15 AM
So just go for the cheapest

They're all cheap.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 19, 2016, 06:31:45 AM
Four Seasons looks nice
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 19, 2016, 06:33:54 AM
They're all cheap.
GH s probably the best value
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on February 19, 2016, 06:37:23 AM

...and yet the irony of this is how D93 uses MY " PLAGIARISM אלעֶרט " meme (or Batchyism, if you will), and doesn't give me credit, either. Pot, meet kettle...
I'm confident both D93 and Batchy would agree that this is PLAGIARISM: (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160219/744e457c0207c830ac5cf5d6cd6e8891.jpg)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 19, 2016, 07:06:46 AM
Nope. My Egypt one looks entirely different, I'll let you post a pic of it  :P
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: knowitall on February 19, 2016, 07:20:04 AM
Here's a real egypt shotglass: (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160219/182388617f95061cf1f50612edd12d33.jpg)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 19, 2016, 07:32:12 AM
👆 🚨 PLAGIARISM אלעֶרט 🚨

HT: MB
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: leaf on February 19, 2016, 06:00:55 PM
Which hotel to stay at in Amman - Grand Hyatt, Le Meridian, Sheraton or IC?
Haven't been, but IC seems to have best reviews/location.  GH best value. 
Anyone with experience want to chime in?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 21, 2016, 01:47:23 AM
Does AMM Airport have a place to hold luggage overnight?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 21, 2016, 02:30:04 AM
Does AMM Airport have a place to hold luggage overnight?
Based on prior research pretty sure not
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 21, 2016, 10:52:16 AM
Now need a visa in advance by the crossing by Eilat unless part of an official tour group
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 21, 2016, 10:53:23 AM
Now need a visa in advance by the crossing by Eilat unless part of an official tour group

Source?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 21, 2016, 11:10:50 AM
Source?
http://international.visitjordan.com/mobile/GeneralInformation/EntryIntoJordan.aspx
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 21, 2016, 12:09:26 PM
http://international.visitjordan.com/mobile/GeneralInformation/EntryIntoJordan.aspx

At least they now have multi entry visas.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 21, 2016, 12:39:05 PM
Now need a visa in advance by the crossing by Eilat unless part of an official tour group

What's the logic behind such a move?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 21, 2016, 12:40:17 PM
What's the logic behind such a move?
Money probably, I believe it costs more now
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 21, 2016, 12:48:02 PM
Money probably, I believe it costs more now

It's the same price that it always was - 40JOD
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 21, 2016, 12:50:29 PM
It's the same price that it always was - 40JOD
For some reason I thought there was another fee also.
They also are using this to try to get tourists to stay longer and visit petra
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 24, 2016, 06:55:47 AM
Is 55 minutes enough to transit AMM? Going DOH-AMM-TLV from QR to RJ
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 24, 2016, 07:24:00 AM
Is 55 minutes enough to transit AMM? Going DOH-AMM-TLV from QR to RJ

Yes
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 24, 2016, 07:29:02 AM
Yes
easily?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 24, 2016, 07:30:04 AM
easily?

Yes
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 24, 2016, 08:02:29 AM
whats an approximate timetable of transiting from AMM to Jerusalem over land? how long does everything take?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mmm740 on February 24, 2016, 08:11:31 AM
whats an approximate timetable of transiting from AMM to Jerusalem over land? how long does everything take?
I know someone who was in Jerusalem 2 hours after landing AMM.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: DMYD on February 24, 2016, 08:12:44 AM
whats an approximate timetable of transiting from AMM to Jerusalem over land? how long does everything take?
With the VIP service a little over 2 hrs minimum.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 24, 2016, 08:15:12 AM
With the VIP service a little over 2 hrs minimum.
I know someone who was in Jerusalem 2 hours after landing AMM.
thanks
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 29, 2016, 10:04:42 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before.
But does anyone know the Price, length of travel time, and safety to take a Taxi from AMM airport to J'lem?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 29, 2016, 10:34:10 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before.
But does anyone know the Price, length of travel time, and safety to take a Taxi from AMM airport to J'lem?
With paying for VIP or without?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 29, 2016, 10:34:45 AM
Anyone ever take go via Allenby border leaving Israel?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 29, 2016, 11:30:35 AM
Looking to go cheaply from Amman (not the airport necessarily) to J'lem.
whats the best way to do this?
For one person 
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on February 29, 2016, 11:40:51 AM
Looking to go cheaply from Amman (not the airport necessarily) to J'lem.
whats the best way to do this?
For one person
VIP service
Many have done that.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 11:42:17 AM
VIP service
Many have done that.

thats not "cheap" taxi to the border crossing wasnt expensive, you can probably take a bus from there (taxi was not that cheap)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 29, 2016, 11:44:58 AM
Looking to go cheaply from Amman (not the airport necessarily) to J'lem.
whats the best way to do this?
For one person
Aren't many options. Public transport or taxi to border and then taxi or sherut to Jerusalem
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 29, 2016, 11:49:20 AM
Aren't many options. Public transport or taxi to border and then taxi or sherut to Jerusalem
Thank you. how long would that take and how much is the cost estimate?
Any info on a bus to the border?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 29, 2016, 11:58:35 AM



Any info on a bus to the border?
Jordan or Israel side?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 12:07:07 PM
Thank you. how long would that take and how much is the cost estimate?
Any info on a bus to the border?

take a taxi to the border from Amman its cheap.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 29, 2016, 12:09:27 PM
Ok so total cost estimate and time for taxis?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on February 29, 2016, 12:12:13 PM
Ok so total cost estimate and time for taxis?
Dunno total calculation with taxis and fees and border taxes but I believe should allocate around 5 hrs without VIP
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 29, 2016, 12:15:01 PM
Ok so total cost estimate and time for taxis?

Approx 50 JOD + border fees (IIRC 8 JOD) + 250 Shek. At least 3 hours.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 29, 2016, 12:41:59 PM
Thank you.
50 JOD is for a private taxi to the border, or bus?
and 250 shekel is for a private taxi as well?
are there Taxis waiting when I get out on the Israeli side?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on February 29, 2016, 12:43:11 PM
Thank you.
50 JOD is for a private taxi to the border, or bus?
and 250 shekel is for a private taxi as well?
are there Taxis waiting when I get out on the Israeli side?

Taxi, I think we paid less than 50 JOD iirc
Yes
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on February 29, 2016, 12:53:53 PM
Thank you.
50 JOD is for a private taxi to the border, or bus?
and 250 shekel is for a private taxi as well?
are there Taxis waiting when I get out on the Israeli side?

Taxi.
Yes.
Yes.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on February 29, 2016, 08:34:58 PM
Thanks guys.
Jordan will be country #14 for this summer's trip
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: normaly on March 02, 2016, 01:43:26 AM
What's the best miles to use from amm-tlv (few miles and paying least surcharges)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 02, 2016, 01:46:59 AM
What's the best miles to use from amm-tlv (few miles and paying least surcharges)

9k BA
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: normaly on March 02, 2016, 01:49:31 AM
9k BA
Do all tickets on this route have a hefty fuel surcharge?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 02, 2016, 01:50:10 AM
Do all tickets on this route have a hefty fuel surcharge?

AA doesn't charge YQ, but it's 25k miles.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 02, 2016, 06:38:48 AM
Thanks guys.
Jordan will be country #14 for this summer's trip
Nice! What's the full list?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 02, 2016, 06:38:48 AM
Thanks guys.
Jordan will be country #14 for this summer's trip
Nice! What's the full list?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on March 02, 2016, 09:19:41 AM
The wrong thread but IYH
Israel
South Africa
Botswana~
Zimbabwe ~
UK
Portugal
Morocco
Spain (stopover, not sure if im leaving the airport)
Italy
Jordan
Canada
Peru
Chile
New Zealand
Australia
~means I didn't book the flight yet but plan on going there
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 02, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
The wrong thread but IYH
Israel
South Africa
Botswana~
Zimbabwe ~
UK
Portugal
Morocco
Spain (stopover, not sure if im leaving the airport)
Italy
Jordan
Canada
Peru
Chile
New Zealand
Australia
~means I didn't book the flight yet but plan on going there

How many days total?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on March 02, 2016, 09:21:33 AM
What's the best miles to use from amm-tlv (few miles and paying least surcharges)
Avios
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on March 02, 2016, 09:22:35 AM
How many days total?
2 Months
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 02, 2016, 09:41:35 AM
The wrong thread but IYH
Israel
South Africa
Botswana~
Zimbabwe ~
UK
Portugal
Morocco
Spain (stopover, not sure if im leaving the airport)
Italy
Jordan
Canada
Peru
Chile
New Zealand
Australia
~means I didn't book the flight yet but plan on going there
Wow! Quite a diverse and exciting list. What's the routing? Has is been discussed in another thread?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 02, 2016, 12:47:32 PM
2 Months

Amazing! Enjoy.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on March 02, 2016, 09:36:48 PM
Wow! Quite a diverse and exciting list. What's the routing? Has is been discussed in another thread?

Not all flights have been booked yet (I still haven't hammered out Intra-africa and EU) so I haven't officially posted about the entire trip.
Iyh when they're all booked I'll post in the upcoming trips thread.
Amazing! Enjoy.

Thank you, I'm burning my entire stash of AA so its quite a big deal
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2016, 02:28:53 AM
How much would a Taxi cost from Aqba to AMM?
Would it be advisable to travel to AMM in the evening if crossing from Eilat?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 06, 2016, 02:30:49 AM
Would it be advisable to travel to AMM in the evening if crossing from Eilat?


What's the difference between day and night?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 06, 2016, 02:41:40 AM
How much would a Taxi cost from Aqba to AMM?
Would it be advisable to travel to AMM in the evening if crossing from Eilat?
Dunno about that way but from the airport I believe is around 100 JOD. You can fly that route for around 100 USD RT and probably with BA
Also keep in mind that you now usually need a visa in advance by that border also
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 06, 2016, 02:50:08 AM
Also keep in mind that you now usually need a visa in advance by that border also

Speaking of which, if anyone has crossed into Jordan via the border by Eilat/Aqaba recently, were you able to get a visa by the border?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on March 06, 2016, 02:57:06 AM
The wrong thread but IYH
Israel
South Africa
Botswana~
Zimbabwe ~
UK
Portugal
Morocco
Spain (stopover, not sure if im leaving the airport)
Italy
Jordan
Canada
Peru
Chile
New Zealand
Australia
~means I didn't book the flight yet but plan on going there
I love how these gems are hidden in random threads.
This should come up in DDF trivia
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on March 06, 2016, 02:57:59 AM
Tlv-amm-auh-syd
Total of 3-4 hr layover in AMM
Do I need a visa?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 06, 2016, 02:58:43 AM
Tlv-amm-auh-syd
Total of 3-4 hr layover in AMM
Do I need a visa?

If you plan on leaving the airport, yes.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2016, 02:58:56 AM
Dunno about that way but from the airport I believe is around 100 JOD. You can fly that route for around 100 USD RT and probably with BA
Also keep in mind that you now usually need a visa in advance by that border also
BA YQ is criminal & it's also 4 Hrs bet flights.
FYI: For my date is $91 USD OW from AQJ to AMM.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on March 06, 2016, 02:59:27 AM
If you plan on leaving the airport, yes.
I don't. So, no, I guess
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 06, 2016, 02:59:53 AM
FYI: For my date is $91 USD OW from AQJ to AMM.

That's cheaper than a cab will cost you.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 06, 2016, 03:00:04 AM
I don't. So, no, I guess

Correct
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2016, 03:00:53 AM
Speaking of which, if anyone has crossed into Jordan via the border by Eilat/Aqaba recently, were you able to get a visa by the border?
How much is a visa in advance?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 06, 2016, 03:02:06 AM
How much is a visa in advance?

40 JOD
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 06, 2016, 03:07:07 AM
BA YQ is criminal & it's also 4 Hrs bet flights.
FYI: For my date is $91 USD OW from AQJ to AMM.
You can also book with AA for 7500+$0
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2016, 03:20:45 AM
That's cheaper than a cab will cost you.
4 Hrs bet flights.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 06, 2016, 03:26:11 AM


4 hours between which flights?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on March 06, 2016, 05:15:38 AM


4 Hrs bet flights.

so rather sit in a car for 4 hours then chill in a lounge sipping jack on the rocks?

Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 06, 2016, 08:45:27 PM
4 hours between which flights?
Between AQB to AMM and AMM to AQB.
so rather sit in a car for 4 hours then chill in a lounge sipping jack on the rocks?


No. I perefer to have more time in Eilat and then drive 4 hours to AMM.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 07, 2016, 12:05:40 AM
Between AQB to AMM and AMM to AQB.

Do you mean AQJ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on March 07, 2016, 12:34:04 AM
Do you mean AQJ?
Yeah I didn't understand either so i googled it and Albuquerque came up ;)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 07, 2016, 12:36:15 AM
Yeah I didn't understand either so i googled it and Albuquerque came up ;)

Same here. Lol
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 07, 2016, 11:15:24 AM
Do you mean AQJ?
yes lol
My bad
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 07, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
yes lol
My bad

You plan on flying AQJ - AMM - AQJ?
How are you getting to AQJ? Where are you going from AQJ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on March 07, 2016, 02:44:44 PM
You plan on flying AQJ - AMM - AQJ?
How are you getting to AQJ? Where are you going from AQJ?
Negative.
I was going to go to Eilat, crossover to AQJ, and then fly AQJ-AMM-JFK.
I am however thinking of flying from TLV as I do not have AA miles.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 07, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
Negative.
I was going to go to Eilat, crossover to AQJ, and then fly AQJ-AMM-JFK.

So what do you mean -

4 Hrs bet flights.
4 hours between which flights?
Between AQB to AMM and AMM to AQB.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 07, 2016, 04:10:12 PM
I am however thinking of flying from TLV as I do not have AA miles.

You can use 75k SQ and fly LH F AMM-FRA-NYC
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SLMYRCB on March 07, 2016, 05:20:08 PM
You can use 75k SQ and fly LH F AMM-FRA-NYC
That's amazing! I had no idea. Thank You!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: D93 on March 07, 2016, 05:51:36 PM
That's amazing! I had no idea. Thank You!

No problem.

I actually once booked TLV-AMM on RJ, AMM-FRA-EWR on LH F, but then TLV-FRA became available last minute, so I changed it to TLV-FRA-EWR.

FYI. Taxes and YQ are higher ex-AMM than ex-TLV.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on March 10, 2016, 11:09:16 PM
That's amazing! I had no idea. Thank You!

+1 thanks for the routing tip...would never have thought of that!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on March 16, 2016, 12:03:32 PM
Can any recommend the best way to travel from AMM to Petra, leaving around 2 AM on a Friday morning, and then Petra to Aqaba several hours later?

Even if you can't recommend a driver or car service etc., do you have any idea how much a cab from AMM to Petra would cost at 2 AM? (That part of the trip is more important, as I assume it will be harder to get and a lot more expensive, than the Petra to Aqaba part, as the Aqaba segment is shorter and will be in the middle of the day.)
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on May 11, 2016, 01:16:06 AM
Headed to AMM now- two issues
1) they refused to gate check out stroller saying the Amman airport doesn't have the ability to - is this really true? Don't know what we're going to do in AMM without out stroller and car seat (which snaps into the stroller)
2) I know people have had issues with EY and boarding passes- they refused/weren't able to print out EY passes in TLV and we couldn't print them online. We have a 6 hr layover in Jordan- anyone know a way of getting around getting stuck in customs?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 11, 2016, 01:25:29 AM


Headed to AMM now- two issues
1) they refused to gate check out stroller saying the Amman airport doesn't have the ability to - is this really true? Don't know what we're going to do in AMM without out stroller and car seat (which snaps into the stroller)
2) I know people have had issues with EY and boarding passes- they refused/weren't able to print out EY passes in TLV and we couldn't print them online. We have a 6 hr layover in Jordan- anyone know a way of getting around getting stuck in customs?

1) beg them to let you take it onboard, that flight is usually empty with plenty of room.
2)they can technically get you into the lounge if you give up your passport where you wait until the EY desk opens for them.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on May 11, 2016, 01:28:07 AM

1) beg them to let you take it onboard, that flight is usually empty with plenty of room.
2)they can technically get you into the lounge if you give up your passport where you wait until the EY desk opens for them.

1) crap- should have thought of that- probably would have fit but they already took it under- they said perhaps it would be waiting on AUH- yeah right...

2) I'll try but even so I figure I'll probably lose an hour arguing - uch

DDF travel ain't for the faint of heart
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mmm740 on May 11, 2016, 09:21:21 AM
Headed to AMM now- two issues
1) they refused to gate check out stroller saying the Amman airport doesn't have the ability to - is this really true? Don't know what we're going to do in AMM without out stroller and car seat (which snaps into the stroller)
2) I know people have had issues with EY and boarding passes- they refused/weren't able to print out EY passes in TLV and we couldn't print them online. We have a 6 hr layover in Jordan- anyone know a way of getting around getting stuck in customs?
Too late for you now but I did it the day before. I tried taking it on board and they refused but in AMM the manager at the transfer desk got it for me and gave us a transfer pass so we could go to the lounge and told me to come back at 11:30 to get the the EY boarding passes. When I came at 11:30 he said he will send someone to the lounge to organise the boarding passes. The guy came later took our passports and disappeared for over an hour and then brought the boarding passes. It all worked out all well - the lounge was roomy and empty.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 11, 2016, 09:47:21 AM


The guy came later took our passports and disappeared for over an hour and then brought the boarding passes. .

Had the same. Was quite nerves wracking.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: IsraelGuy on May 11, 2016, 11:28:52 AM

Had the same. Was quite nerves wracking.
Same thing happened / transfer slips- some guy disappears with your passports, you know...

No luck wth the stroller- was an absolute nightmare and that's in the tiny AMM airport...need to switch to a Doona or convertible with a dolly

In contrast AUH with the strollers has been a dream... Gotta run for my lounge massage
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on May 11, 2016, 11:53:32 AM
Same thing happened / transfer slips- some guy disappears with your passports, you know...

No luck wth the stroller- was an absolute nightmare and that's in the tiny AMM airport...need to switch to a Doona or convertible with a dolly

In contrast AUH with the strollers has been a dream... Gotta run for my lounge massage
As I wrote in my TR, the Doona was by far the best travel purchase I have ever made. An absolute lifesaver and worth every last penny.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on June 12, 2016, 02:44:21 PM
http://www.tnet.org.il/sitefiles/1/2444/99498.asp
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: efflpetzel on June 15, 2016, 12:57:20 AM
http://www.tnet.org.il/sitefiles/1/2444/99498.asp
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4815768,00.html


What do they gain from this
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Denverite on August 08, 2016, 09:52:35 PM
For those comfortable to fly Royal Jordanian, they've got RT flights from Ord-TLV, even for Sukkot and Pesach for $655 RT and you can earn Avios.  Flights also leave late at night and arrive early afternoon so it's easy to make connections for people like me that live OOT (cheapest flights from Denver are about $1200).
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on August 19, 2016, 04:54:05 PM
Looking to go from Eilat to stay at the IC Aquaba on Sukkos, any updates whether I can get a Visa at the border?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on August 19, 2016, 04:58:13 PM
Looking to go from Eilat to stay at the IC Aquaba on Sukkos, any updates whether I can get a Visa at the border?
Are you asking if anything changed recently? Couple years ago when I went I got one at the Eilat border crossing
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: high end hobo on August 19, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
Are you asking if anything changed recently? Couple years ago when I went I got one at the Eilat border crossing
http://international.visitjordan.com/mobile/GeneralInformation/EntryIntoJordan.aspx
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 26, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
Any recent updates on the travel situation to Jordan?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 26, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
Also, if there is any up to date info about getting to Aharon HaKohens kever + how to get the key...
Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on September 26, 2017, 09:31:41 AM
Also, if there is any up to date info about getting to Aharon HaKohens kever + how to get the key...
Thanks a lot.
when I was there about 4years ago (and presuambly nothing in that country changed since then) there was a bedouin lady who lived on top of the mountain right before The kever who had the key and you have to give her a couple of dinar otherwise she won't open it. But bargain her down cuz her original asking price was nuts. I guess act as if you don't care too much to go into the actual kever. Otherwise she knows she's got the upper hand.
As far as getting there goes as soon as you walk into Petra you'll see all the miles and horse and you'll have anout 50 of these guys hounding you to try to get you to take a mule ride thru Petra. Just ask them for Jaboul Aharun and they'll know what your talking about. Again , as with anything in Jordan bargain them down. They originally wanted something like 75 dinar a person I think we got it for about 120 for 4 people total.

And just a tip bring lots of water with you. It's a desert and you'll dehydrate very quickly and you'll be stuck paying that bedouin lady 25 dinar for some polluted water where you have no idea where she got it from. Buy at the shop at the beginning.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 26, 2017, 09:35:08 AM
when I was there about 4years ago (and presuambly nothing in that country changed since then) there was a bedouin lady who lived on top of the mountain right before The kever who had the key and you have to give her a couple of dinar otherwise she won't open it. But bargain her down cuz her original asking price was nuts. I guess act as if you don't care too much to go into the actual kever. Otherwise she knows she's got the upper hand.
As far as getting there goes as soon as you walk into Petra you'll see all the miles and horse and you'll have anout 50 of these guys hounding you to try to get you to take a mule ride thru Petra. Just ask them for Jaboul Aharun and they'll know what your talking about. Again , as with anything in Jordan bargain them down. They originally wanted something like 75 dinar a person I think we got it for about 120 for 4 people total.
Thanks a lot.
What times should I estimate duration from x to y, etc
If I rent a car, will I save or multiply headaches?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on September 26, 2017, 09:49:36 AM
Thanks a lot.
What times should I estimate duration from x to y, etc
If I rent a car, will I save or multiply headaches?
just edited that post to add the water advice.
We didn't rent a car so I don't know about that but if your going with a couple of people cab will work just fine.
We were there for 2 nights and two days
We got there at night just before the border crossing closed and took a cab to Petra where we stayed in a hotel that we found on kayak. It was about $50 a night and very decent. It was about a 5 minute walk to the entsnce of Petra. No cars are allowed in Petra so it won't help you in there. On the way to the hotel at night our driver stopped at some souvenir stores for us.  They have these massive stores that only sell hookah products. Over there they call it nargeelah or something like that. He had no idea what we were talking about when we said hookah. He also took us to wadi musa which is what they claim is be'er Miriam although according to the Torah we don't know where it is but I guess it's worth a stop anyhow.

We basically spent the entire day in Petra. There is a ton of walking and the mule ride to Kever Aharon was about 4 hours round trip IIRC. we walked out of Petra and walked a few minutes in to town to get a cab to Aqaba. We didn't want to get ripped off at the Petra gate where only tourists hail cabs. We literally spent about half our time there haggling prices. It's insane  it can make you crazy.
In Aqaba we stayed k. Some other hotel we found online. It was very decent and very clean. It was very Arabic in design which was interesting.
We walked around a bit and checked out some shops. The next morning we went to a beach that is basically just for tourists. It costs like 5 dinar to get in but it was worth it. There are pools and showers there as well. You can even rent snorkel gear and go your self. (we really enjoyed that ).
After that we of course bargained with some cab to the us to wadi rum atving. That was really amazing.
From there we took a cab back to the border to get there before closing. Don't forget to stop at duty free. They had some really good deals.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 26, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
just edited that post to add the water advice.
We didn't rent a car so I don't know about that but if your going with a couple of people cab will work just fine.
We were there for 2 nights and two days
We got there at night just before the border crossing closed and took a cab to Petra where we stayed in a hotel that we found on kayak. It was about $50 a night and very decent. It was about a 5 minute walk to the entsnce of Petra. No cars are allowed in Petra so it won't help you in there. On the way to the hotel at night our driver stopped at some souvenir stores for us.  They have these massive stores that only sell hookah products. Over there they call it nargeelah or something like that. He had no idea what we were talking about when we said hookah. He also took us to wadi musa which is what they claim is be'er Miriam although according to the Torah we don't know where it is but I guess it's worth a stop anyhow.

We basically spent the entire day in Petra. There is a ton of walking and the mule ride to Kever Aharon was about 4 hours round trip IIRC. we walked out of Petra and walked a few minutes in to town to get a cab to Aqaba. We didn't want to get ripped off at the Petra gate where only tourists hail cabs. We literally spent about half our time there haggling prices. It's insane  it can make you crazy.
In Aqaba we stayed k. Some other hotel we found online. It was very decent and very clean. It was very Arabic in design which was interesting.
We walked around a bit and checked out some shops. The next morning we went to a beach that is basically just for tourists. It costs like 5 dinar to get in but it was worth it. There are pools and showers there as well. You can even rent snorkel gear and go your self. (we really enjoyed that ).
After that we of course bargained with some cab to the us to wadi rum atving. That was really amazing.
From there we took a cab back to the border to get there before closing. Don't forget to stop at duty free. They had some really good deals.
So Petra and Aharon is no problem in one day.
Visiting Aharons kever is an official attraction, and when you say Petra I imagine a little city connected to those rocks?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ludmila on September 26, 2017, 10:24:06 AM
when I was there about 4years ago (and presuambly nothing in that country changed since then) there was a bedouin lady who lived on top of the mountain right before The kever who had the key and you have to give her a couple of dinar otherwise she won't open it. But bargain her down cuz her original asking price was nuts. I guess act as if you don't care too much to go into the actual kever. Otherwise she knows she's got the upper hand.
As far as getting there goes as soon as you walk into Petra you'll see all the miles and horse and you'll have anout 50 of these guys hounding you to try to get you to take a mule ride thru Petra. Just ask them for Jaboul Aharun and they'll know what your talking about. Again , as with anything in Jordan bargain them down. They originally wanted something like 75 dinar a person I think we got it for about 120 for 4 people total.

And just a tip bring lots of water with you. It's a desert and you'll dehydrate very quickly and you'll be stuck paying that bedouin lady 25 dinar for some polluted water where you have no idea where she got it from. Buy at the shop at the beginning.
Strange how the Jordanian government who is working on growing tourism has a bedouin woman hold the key and charging whatever she wants to open it!!!
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on September 26, 2017, 10:25:31 PM
So Petra and Aharon is no problem in one day.
Visiting Aharons kever is an official attraction, and when you say Petra I imagine a little city connected to those rocks?
yes. You take a mule ride from the Petra gate or once your in the ancient ruins you can find there too. But you might as well take it earlier than later so you can save yourself some walking. . Petra officialy is the ancient city. The city where people live outside is called something else.  Yes you should be able to do them both in a day if you get an early start.
Strange how the Jordanian government who is working on growing tourism has a bedouin woman hold the key and charging whatever she wants to open it!!!
well I don't think that Aharon hakohens kever is much of an attraction for anyone other than Jews.  Also the kever is so remote that there is no way of keeping anyone from putting their own lock on it.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on September 26, 2017, 11:10:06 PM
I have a 6 hr stopover in AMM, what can I do in that time?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 27, 2017, 01:18:09 AM
yes. You take a mule ride from the Petra gate or once your in the ancient ruins you can find there too. But you might as well take it earlier than later so you can save yourself some walking. . Petra officialy is the ancient city. The city where people live outside is called something else.  Yes you should be able to do them both in a day if you get an early start. well I don't think that Aharon hakohens kever is much of an attraction for anyone other than Jews.  Also the kever is so remote that there is no way of keeping anyone from putting their own lock on it.
Thanks a lot.
All those mule guys know where to find this lady ?

Also, be'er Miriam is on the way ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ad120 on September 27, 2017, 01:45:37 AM
yes. You take a mule ride from the Petra gate or once your in the ancient ruins you can find there too. But you might as well take it earlier than later so you can save yourself some walking. . Petra officialy is the ancient city. The city where people live outside is called something else.  Yes you should be able to do them both in a day if you get an early start. well I don't think that Aharon hakohens kever is much of an attraction for anyone other than Jews.  Also the kever is so remote that there is no way of keeping anyone from putting their own lock on it.
Is it 4 Hours round trip for the mule ride or is it 4 hours one way?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on September 27, 2017, 08:26:17 AM
Thanks a lot.
All those mule guys know where to find this lady ?

Also, be'er Miriam is on the way ?


yeah they all know each other. Maybe just mention to him before you go about the key.
It's right outside the city we went at night before getting to the hotel. Don't think it was out of the way at all.
Is it 4 Hours round trip for the mule ride or is it 4 hours one way?

from what I remember it's 4 RT. But that could also depend on where you start the ride. I believe we walked for a bit before we took someone up in his offer. Although I really don't remember exactly when we took. Could be walked for an hour first could be we didn't walk at all. I'm blank.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 27, 2017, 04:54:12 PM
Careful though, as there are many reports of the border guards not allowing tefillin into the country
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on September 27, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
Careful though, as there are many reports of the border guards not allowing tefillin into the country
Seems like it's rather coming from TLV or looking obviously Jewish.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on September 27, 2017, 08:22:31 PM
Careful though, as there are many reports of the border guards not allowing tefillin into the country
Seems like it's rather coming from TLV or looking obviously Jewish.
it could be recently they got strict. When we went we crossed at Eilat and although we were wearing caps etc. They knew we were Jewish and still didn't give any issue. You can always hide them in your socks if need be. I don't know if that would help but who knows
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Z56 on September 27, 2017, 09:49:54 PM
Careful though, as there are many reports of the border guards not allowing tefillin into the country

I was there 4 years ago and they took away our tefillin from us
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: mmgfarb on September 27, 2017, 10:08:52 PM
I was there 4 years ago and they took away our tefillin from us
Coming in through the airport?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Z56 on September 28, 2017, 12:36:26 AM
Coming in through the airport?

By land from Eilat border crossing
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on September 28, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
So what did you do?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: dmdmoses46 on October 14, 2017, 07:58:55 PM
Anybody go through the border by eilat recently
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on October 03, 2018, 05:42:36 AM
Anyone go to Petra and aron hakohen kever recently?

Anyone exited through the eilat border?
What is the current visa situation, can you get one on the spot?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Cashman on December 23, 2018, 12:50:21 PM
Anyone go to Petra and aron hakohen kever recently?

Anyone exited through the eilat border?
What is the current visa situation, can you get one on the spot?
I went in August. Exited thru Eilat. You need to hire a tour guide and he will take care of visa for you. Visa is obtained at border. PM me with any questions
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: gubevo18 on December 23, 2018, 12:55:30 PM
I went in August. Exited thru Eilat. You need to hire a tour guide and he will take care of visa for you. Visa is obtained at border. PM me with any questions
perhaps things changed. But when I went I didn't hire a tour guide and didn't need anyone else to arrange visas. They give you one at the border
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: moisheyb on December 23, 2018, 03:21:29 PM
perhaps things changed. But when I went I didn't hire a tour guide and didn't need anyone else to arrange visas. They give you one at the border
I went in August. Exited thru Eilat. You need to hire a tour guide and he will take care of visa for you. Visa is obtained at border. PM me with any questions
Thanks already went.
If your American you can get a visa on the spot and don't need a tour guide.
If your Israeli officially you need a tour guide and he can get you a visa on the spot.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ItzikF on December 23, 2018, 05:22:24 PM
Anyone go with an organized group on the Ahron Hacohen's yartzeit?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: Nethanel on January 19, 2019, 06:45:19 PM
can anyone recommend a reliable guide from Eilat to Petra?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: ItzikF on January 27, 2019, 06:50:20 AM
I went in August. Exited thru Eilat. You need to hire a tour guide and he will take care of visa for you. Visa is obtained at border. PM me with any questions
can anyone recommend a reliable guide from Eilat to Petra?
Pm him
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: citynewz on June 05, 2019, 12:03:54 PM
Can anyone recommend a good tour company to visit Petra for one day ? We will most likely go from Eilat, but possibly Tel Aviv. Also do you think it is ok to go in July ? or is that insane ?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 02, 2020, 11:59:33 PM
Anyone with recent info on crossing with tefillin? From the Eilat border
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on February 03, 2020, 02:41:58 AM
Anyone with recent info on crossing with tefillin? From the Eilat border
Is there a problem crossing with tfillin?
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 03, 2020, 05:03:07 PM
Is there a problem crossing with tfillin?
Yes, I was asking if there is an issue.

I crossed today and turns out there is, it's really up to their mood apparently, and you can get lucky and sneak by with it. However most likely they will find it and not let you cross with it. That's what happened to us, we had to go back to Israel and leave it in our car.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on February 03, 2020, 05:16:56 PM
Yes, I was asking if there is an issue.

I crossed today and turns out there is, it's really up to their mood apparently, and you can get lucky and sneak by with it. However most likely they will find it and not let you cross with it. That's what happened to us, we had to go back to Israel and leave it in our car.
Wow...

I was told that if you go in low-profile, as in, not placing tfillin on the custom agents, you should be alright.
Turns out I heard wrong.
Title: Re: Jordan Master Thread
Post by: chaimh770 on February 04, 2020, 07:14:52 AM
Wow...

I was told that if you go in low-profile, as in, not placing tfillin on the custom agents, you should be alright.
Turns out I heard wrong.
We traveled as low profile as possible to try to not look so Jewish, but they saw the tefillin in the x-ray and that was all... Once they saw the tefillin they even made one of us take off his hat to see if there was a yarmulka, also pull up shirt to check for tzitzis... BH we were able to go back to the Israeli border and they let us leave the tefillin at the border like this it didn't officially consider it as and another exit so we didn't have to pay the vat tax