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Title: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 03, 2013, 03:19:01 PM
I thought I would start a thread for anyone who uses a GDS where questions, tips, and the like can be posted. Maybe we can get answers quicker then calling the helpdesk or share some tricks etc...

Maybe we can help people who have questions that we can answer because of the access we have......

Oh, and I guess I will introduce myself as an Amadeus user.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 03, 2013, 03:44:45 PM
Sabre red
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 03, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
On what point, what reason are you using this GDS vs the other
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 03, 2013, 03:48:11 PM
On what point, what reason are you using this GDS vs the other

A lot depends on the contract you can get, direct connect, etc....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 03, 2013, 06:34:02 PM
Lets get going, where are all the TAs here?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 03, 2013, 07:13:42 PM
Tripcase vs CheckMyTrip vs TripView?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 03, 2013, 07:14:17 PM
Travelport has an Android and iOS app for CDS bookings and more, not avail for WSPN Users
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 03, 2013, 09:21:27 PM
Tripcase vs CheckMyTrip vs TripView?

They are all the same to me though I do like Trip case and the way virtuallythere prepares an itinerary for printing as opposed to checkmytrip.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 03, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
Travelport has an Android and iOS app for CDS bookings and more, not avail for WSPN Users

Now Amadeus and Sabre needs something like that. Do you have all the tools and options available to you on the app as you would on a desktop?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 03, 2013, 09:42:48 PM
Now Amadeus and Sabre needs something like that. Do you have all the tools and options available to you on the app as you would on a desktop?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tts.tma (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tts.tma)

1A has some apps for iOS, but as I dont have a 1A signin, I couldn't try them.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 03, 2013, 10:57:15 PM
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tts.tma (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tts.tma)

1A has some apps for iOS, but as I dont have a 1A signin, I couldn't try them.

That is really cool!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 04, 2013, 10:54:32 AM
Dropped Sabre a few years ago, now on Amadeus in the US, Gellilo for Europe.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 04, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
If there is one seat in a lower class of service and one in a higher class can both passengers be on the same PNR?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 04, 2013, 05:25:48 PM
If there is one seat in a lower class of service and one in a higher class can both passengers be on the same PNR?

Like this?
 
 
3  AIR   (e)  HK1  AA  6138   F   LHR  5  09APR   08:30a  JFK  09APR  11:00a  -AS-  /P2

4  AIR   (e)  HK1  AA  6138   O   LHR  5  09APR   08:30a  JFK  09APR  11:00a  -AS-  /P1

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 04, 2013, 05:34:04 PM
Like this?
 
 
3  AIR   (e)  HK1  AA  6138   F   LHR  5  09APR   08:30a  JFK  09APR  11:00a  -AS-  /P2

4  AIR   (e)  HK1  AA  6138   O   LHR  5  09APR   08:30a  JFK  09APR  11:00a  -AS-  /P1

I believe that would be called a non homogeneous PNR. I never booked one but I believe it can be done depending on the level of access you have and I think you will also have to manually price it out.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 04, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
CheckMyTrip

Very nice & clean.
Look up by Name/PNR, no need to signup/no email reg.

Nice amount of airlines supported

Info nice and presented.
Shows seat map, confirmation on a meal request.
Export to PDF, but not that nice.
Good app.

No good eTicket receipt, with all info on the fare etc.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 04, 2013, 05:49:55 PM
If there is one seat in a lower class of service and one in a higher class can both passengers be on the same PNR?

as far i know, its impossible,
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 04, 2013, 06:03:51 PM
as far i know, its impossible,

You can't do an NHP?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 04, 2013, 06:23:31 PM
You can't do an NHP?

English?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 04, 2013, 06:27:07 PM
English?

Non Homogeneous PNR. When 2 passengers are booked under same PNR but do not share same itinerary.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 04, 2013, 07:46:24 PM
as far i know, its impossible,
Def possible. OTAs do it all the time
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 04, 2013, 10:56:55 PM
So I did a little research and in Amadeus you need to end the PNR and it automatically splits. You get the same PNR 4FMASE for both passengers. I don't know if that helps.

RT/SMITH                                                                       
  1 SMITH/JOHN            LY  8    P  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASE                 
  2 SMITH/MARY            LY  8    F  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASF                 
>
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 04, 2013, 10:59:18 PM
Non Homogeneous PNR. When 2 passengers are booked under same PNR but do not share same itinerary.
That's still Chinese :)

Care to explain how that's done?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 04, 2013, 11:03:55 PM
So I did a little research and in Amadeus you need to end the PNR and it automatically splits. You get the same PNR 4FMASE for both passengers. I don't know if that helps.

RT/SMITH                                                                     
  1 SMITH/JOHN            LY  8    P  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASE                 
  2 SMITH/MARY            LY  8    F  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASF                 
>

Can u explain how it would wrk in SABRE?
Meaning I take 1 B class and 1 Y class? Won't it tell me duplicate segments?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 04, 2013, 11:32:57 PM
Can u explain how it would wrk in SABRE?
Meaning I take 1 B class and 1 Y class? Won't it tell me duplicate segments?

Sorry.

I am not sure how to do it in Sabre. In Amadeus I first need to create the names in the PNR then in the availability display I can pull a Y class for Passenger 1 and then a B class for Passenger 2. In Sabre can you do 01Y1 and specfiy like P1 or something and then do a 01B1 and specify P2?

I hope I am not talking in chinese! :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 05, 2013, 03:07:51 AM
So I did a little research and in Amadeus you need to end the PNR and it automatically splits. You get the same PNR 4FMASE for both passengers. I don't know if that helps.

RT/SMITH                                                                       
  1 SMITH/JOHN            LY  8    P  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASE                 
  2 SMITH/MARY            LY  8    F  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASF                 
>
It's showing 2 different RLs
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 05, 2013, 09:26:32 AM
It's showing 2 different RLs

Good Point :) I was half asleep please excuse me. It could be that the PNR's will be split but they are linked.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 05, 2013, 09:54:54 AM
Dropped Sabre a few years ago, now on Amadeus in the US, Gellilo for Europe.

Do you have Amadeus All Fares or Master Price Expert integrated?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 05, 2013, 09:55:44 AM
Do you have Amadeus All Fares or Master Price Expert integrated?

I have masterprice, Why do you ask?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 05, 2013, 09:57:19 AM
So I did a little research and in Amadeus you need to end the PNR and it automatically splits. You get the same PNR 4FMASE for both passengers. I don't know if that helps.

RT/SMITH                                                                       
  1 SMITH/JOHN            LY  8    P  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASE                 
  2 SMITH/MARY            LY  8    F  05MAR  JFKTLV   1 4FMASF                 
>

a split PNR is only cross referenced, and not the same PNR, you can cross reference any PNR with an SSR
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 05, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
Also watch out, dont play with live inventory, the airlines are.... on this, we ware blocked by UA for just 2 lags in training...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: meshugener on March 05, 2013, 10:28:27 AM
Anyone here using WHYAICH?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: satturn on March 05, 2013, 01:48:42 PM
Anyone here using WHYAICH?
+1
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 05, 2013, 04:19:44 PM
Also watch out, dont play with live inventory, the airlines are.... on this, we ware blocked by UA for just 2 lags in training...

Yup Thanks.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 06, 2013, 12:54:47 PM
So who here has booked an open ended ticket with LY. I have never and I need too.....  :D
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 06, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
So who here has booked an open ended ticket with LY. I have never and I need too.....  :D

i did :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 06, 2013, 03:03:44 PM
i did :)

I'm sure you did!!! Can you help me?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 06, 2013, 06:22:51 PM
I'm sure you did!!! Can you help me?
PM sent
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 07, 2013, 01:50:15 PM
So who here has booked an open ended ticket with LY. I have never and I need too.....  :D

you just issue it on a passive segment
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 07, 2013, 01:51:35 PM
did anyone here tried this website trippro.com?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 07, 2013, 05:01:05 PM
did anyone here tried this website trippro.com?

I was in contact with them and received all the documentation but never proceeded.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 07, 2013, 06:27:27 PM
I was in contact with them and received all the documentation but never proceeded.

They or you?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: txtmax4 on March 07, 2013, 07:52:11 PM
.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 07, 2013, 09:11:58 PM
They or you?

Me. I have suppliers already and they seem to just be charging for their software.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 07, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
Me. I have suppliers already and they seem to just be charging for their software.

So are they not worth the money?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 07, 2013, 10:44:58 PM
So are they not worth the money?

I honestly don't know. They do have a 30 day free trial.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 07, 2013, 10:51:48 PM
 maybe we can grab something from it. or maybe its the same what patheo.com used to be years ago.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 07, 2013, 11:12:37 PM
maybe we can grab something from it. or maybe its the same what patheo.com used to be years ago.

I have no clue what that is.  :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 08, 2013, 06:11:45 AM
Also watch out, dont play with live inventory, the airlines are.... on this, we ware blocked by UA for just 2 lags in training...
If you grab as confirmed, it doesn't take from inventory (01Y1HK in Sabre)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 08, 2013, 07:55:52 AM
If you grab as confirmed, it doesn't take from inventory (01Y1HK in Sabre)

It is only an issue if you end the PNR, then you have a booking.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 02:34:06 AM
I'm just getting started with Sabre. :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: txtmax4 on March 17, 2013, 02:37:59 AM
I'm just getting started with Sabre. :)
+1 :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 17, 2013, 03:58:41 AM
I'm just getting started with Sabre. :)

Welcome to our club
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 17, 2013, 11:58:39 AM
I'm just getting started with Sabre. :)

Congrats. Seems like a bigger Sabre club here than Amadeus.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 12:01:26 PM
Congrats. Seems like a bigger Sabre club here than Amadeus.

Heh heh.

Cooooooooome to the daaaaark Reeeeeed side! :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 17, 2013, 12:41:38 PM
Heh heh.

Cooooooooome to the daaaaark Reeeeeed side! :P

Ya I know Sabre Red workspace sounds alot sexier than Amadeus Sellers platform. Right now it is beneficial for me to use Amadeus so that's why I'm with them. What's your favorite part of Sabre?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 12:44:43 PM
Ya I know Sabre Red workspace sounds alot sexier than Amadeus Sellers platform. Right now it is beneficial for me to use Amadeus so that's why I'm with them. What's your favorite part of Sabre?

I'm still new at this. But from the people I speak to and deal with, the impression I get is that there is much more shtick that can be pulled off using Sabre.

Put it this way: Sabre is used by WhyAich and all the cool guys; Amadeus is used by all the kollel wives working in Israeli travel agencies for minimum wage. Which do YOU think sounds sexier? :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 17, 2013, 12:53:05 PM
I'm still new at this. But from the people I speak to and deal with, the impression I get is that there is much more shtick that can be pulled off using Sabre.

Put it this way: Sabre is used by WhyAich and all the cool guys; Amadeus is used by all the kollel wives working in Israeli travel agencies for minimum wage. Which do YOU think sounds sexier? :P

Wow! I can't beleive you went there. The real cool guys are using both not just one as each offers its own pros and cons. Why don't you go back to your Sabre Red Workspace!  >:(
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 17, 2013, 12:57:01 PM
Wow! I can't beleive you went there. The real cool guys are using both not just one as each offers its own pros and cons. Why don't you go back to your Sabre Red Workspace!  >:(

I do believe I have poked a sleeping dragon in the eye. ;D
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 17, 2013, 12:59:37 PM
I do believe I have poked a sleeping dragon in the eye. ;D

 ;D

Are you using the cryptic commands or Sare Red's Graphical View? Oh my god!!! Sabre!!! :-* :-*
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on March 17, 2013, 01:35:45 PM
We switched to Amadeus, because their "web services" are much more "consistent" then Sabre's "web services", try to compare Expedia (Amadeus Based) to Travelocity (Sabre all the way)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 17, 2013, 05:17:21 PM
We switched to Amadeus, because their "web services" are much more "consistent" then Sabre's "web services", try to compare Expedia (Amadeus Based) to Travelocity (Sabre all the way)

I also find them very helpful in helping integrate Amadeus into my website, though I never did try with Sabre.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 24, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Anyone book a UA ticket through GDS with a UA voucher?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on April 10, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
I need some help pricing a PNR with INF, CH, and ADT in Amadeus. If anyone can help.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on April 10, 2013, 09:26:20 PM
I need some help pricing a PNR with INF, CH, and ADT in Amadeus. If anyone can help.

Dunno if same as a Sabre if yes I can help. How many adults kids and infs?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: dvol on April 11, 2013, 03:54:20 PM

Travel Agent wanted for NYC travel agency.
Must have GDS experience.

Email resume to manhattantravelagency@gmail.com
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: nocknock on April 21, 2013, 01:18:47 AM
Travel Agent wanted for NYC travel agency.
Must have GDS experience.

Email resume to manhattantravelagency@gmail.com
Is worldspan good?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on May 11, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
Anyway to pull up on Sabre the reservation with flight number only without having the name etc..?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 12, 2013, 02:45:39 AM
Anyway to pull up on Sabre the reservation with flight number only without having the name etc..?

Officially, you can't pull up a reservation that you didn't make (or don't otherwise have access to), anyway. It will say "SECURED PNR".
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on May 12, 2013, 02:52:39 AM
Officially, you can't pull up a reservation that you didn't make (or don't otherwise have access to), anyway. It will say "SECURED PNR".
No, I am talking about a reservation I created myself, just can't recall which spoof name I put in  :( .
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 12, 2013, 03:20:14 AM
No, I am talking about a reservation I created myself, just can't recall which spoof name I put in  :( .

Ummmmm... what was the purpose of it, if I may ask? :o
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on May 12, 2013, 03:25:24 AM
Ummmmm... what was the purpose of it, if I may ask? :o
I am surprised you don't know or you can't come up yourself with that...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 12, 2013, 03:26:11 AM
I am surprised you don't know or you can't come up yourself with that...

Alol
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 12, 2013, 03:57:44 AM
I am surprised you don't know or you can't come up yourself with that...

Oh, I can... I just happen to know that there are certain tricks that people *think* will work, but in reality don't help at all. I'm curious if this is one of those.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on May 12, 2013, 08:43:13 AM
Try:
*BA162/25JULBAH
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on May 12, 2013, 08:47:25 AM
Try:
*BA162/25JULBAH
Tried. Doesnt bring up anything unless you put in "-name" at the end which I  don't  have.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on May 12, 2013, 08:50:34 AM
Tried. Doesnt bring up anything unless you put in "-name" at the end which I  don't  have.
WhyAich can chime in here, but I believe admin can view all reservations created
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on May 12, 2013, 12:26:12 PM
WhyAich can chime in here, but I believe admin can view all reservations created

You should be able to generate an activity report which can pull up that info.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on May 12, 2013, 12:42:04 PM
Thanks WhyAich for the help. Got it done.

Oh, I can... I just happen to know that there are certain tricks that people *think* will work, but in reality don't help at all. I'm curious if this is one of those.

Obviously if those are always working for me, you can cross that of your list...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Bp on May 12, 2013, 04:04:26 PM
Oh, I can... I just happen to know that there are certain tricks that people *think* will work, but in reality don't help at all. I'm curious if this is one of those.

OMG you cant make it up..........
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 12, 2013, 04:17:04 PM
OMG you cant make it up..........

?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: elikay on May 12, 2013, 05:59:13 PM
OMG you cant make it up..........
+1 lol
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 25, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
When you set up an itinerary on Sabre, end the reservation, and pull it back up again, the AA FACTS will generally list a date and time by which the itinerary must be ticketed or it will cancel automatically. What time zone are those warnings using?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: CLOVERDALETRAVEL on June 26, 2013, 05:55:19 PM
Using the "new" version of WorldSpan the custom itinerary is printed out in very small font.  Help desk doesn't know how to change and "Ask Travelport" has no answers.  Does anyone know how to increase the font size when printing custom itineraries from the drop down box in the new WorldSpan?

Craig
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on July 24, 2013, 07:59:14 AM
From ASTA Email this morning:

Airlines are leading the way in changing how travel is sold. It’s called the New Distribution Capability (NDC), and it is changing how airline content, such as airfares, routes, and seat availability, reaches passengers through websites and travel agencies.

Anyone know or understand that?
Title: Where can I learn about GDSs
Post by: AsherO on August 08, 2013, 11:59:48 AM
I'd like to educate myself about GDSs systems (Amadeus, Sabre, Travelport etc.) and how they work. Is there a handbook/book I should be getting my hands on?

I'm not just looking for how they serve as the backend to OTAs (Online Travel Agencies), I want to educate myself on how their systems work and what APIs they have for booking travel.

Thank you for your thoughts/recommendations :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 08, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
I'd like to educate myself about GDSs systems (Amadeus, Sabre, Travelport etc.) and how they work. Is there a handbook/book I should be getting my hands on?

I'm not just looking for how they serve as the backend to OTAs (Online Travel Agencies), I want to educate myself on how their systems work and what APIs they have for booking travel.

Thank you for your thoughts/recommendations :)
I doubt many here know much about the APIs
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on August 09, 2013, 06:53:16 AM
I doubt many here know much about the APIs
Lol.
What's an API?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: hocker on August 09, 2013, 06:56:31 AM
Lol.
What's an API?
In laymans terms the software coding, which in turn lets other programs interact with it.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 09, 2013, 07:18:53 AM
In laymans terms the software coding, which in turn lets other programs interact with it.
In laymans terms, it allows someone on a website to interact with a GDS (IE OTAs)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: sammy n on August 09, 2013, 12:02:15 PM
Does anyone know if Sabre can be downloaded and work on a IPad?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on August 09, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Does anyone know if Sabre can be downloaded and work on a IPad?
Log me in is the best it gets.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on August 25, 2013, 05:40:15 PM
Anyone use SPRK reservation system?

It looks really easy to use and would require minimal training for new agents.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ramkyk on September 30, 2013, 10:59:04 AM
I have been working in Amadeus for a while and just switched to Sabre. Having some problems with formats.

In Amadeus I could find flights that have availaibility in a partucular class in multiple airlines (alliances like dl,kl,af) in one command
AN14DECOKCDXB/ADL/CT/B1
Where DL is the airline, T is the class and B1 is one seat availability

Is there anything similar in Sabre?

Also I am having diffuclty finding availability for multiple airlines
AN13DECOKCDXB/Adl,kl,af - in Amadeus would give me all the schedules for combinations of all these 3 airlines

Anything similar in sabre?

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ram
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on September 30, 2013, 01:24:30 PM
I have been working in Amadeus for a while and just switched to Sabre. Having some problems with formats.
In Amadeus I could find flights that have availaibility in a partucular class in multiple airlines (alliances like dl,kl,af) in one command
AN14DECOKCDXB/ADL/CT/B1
Where DL is the airline, T is the class and B1 is one seat availability

Is there anything similar in Sabre?

Also I am having diffuclty finding availability for multiple airlines
AN13DECOKCDXB/Adl,kl,af - in Amadeus would give me all the schedules for combinations of all these 3 airlines

Anything similar in sabre?

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ram
113DECOKCDXB‡DLKLAF-B
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on September 30, 2013, 02:30:41 PM
I have been working in Amadeus for a while and just switched to Sabre. Having some problems with formats.

In Amadeus I could find flights that have availaibility in a partucular class in multiple airlines (alliances like dl,kl,af) in one command
AN14DECOKCDXB/ADL/CT/B1
Where DL is the airline, T is the class and B1 is one seat availability

Is there anything similar in Sabre?

Also I am having diffuclty finding availability for multiple airlines
AN13DECOKCDXB/Adl,kl,af - in Amadeus would give me all the schedules for combinations of all these 3 airlines

Anything similar in sabre?

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ram
welcome to the DDF Family :)

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 30, 2013, 08:12:08 PM
welcome to the DDF Sabre Family :)

FTFY. :D
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 30, 2013, 09:42:46 PM
113DECOKCDXB"‡"DLKLAF-B

Which key is that? cross of loraine?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on September 30, 2013, 09:44:53 PM
Which key is that? cross of loraine?
Yup
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 01, 2013, 03:24:00 PM
endlech.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ce1nTl8fc&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=html&utm_medium=email&utm_term=SRW_Mobile_YouTube&utm_campaign=SRW_Mobile_Teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ce1nTl8fc&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=html&utm_medium=email&utm_term=SRW_Mobile_YouTube&utm_campaign=SRW_Mobile_Teaser)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on October 01, 2013, 04:11:26 PM
endlech.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ce1nTl8fc&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=html&utm_medium=email&utm_term=SRW_Mobile_YouTube&utm_campaign=SRW_Mobile_Teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ce1nTl8fc&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=html&utm_medium=email&utm_term=SRW_Mobile_YouTube&utm_campaign=SRW_Mobile_Teaser)

I was about to post that. This is unhealthy!!! I am going to be taking work to bed! Amadeus is very behind and I mostly use Amadeus. But now that may change. maybe....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 02, 2013, 01:45:19 AM
I was about to post that. This is unhealthy!!! I am going to be taking work to bed! Amadeus is very behind and I mostly use Amadeus. But now that may change. maybe....

2 points,

1) Worldspan (which only my granny uses...) long had a mobile app

2) this will most prop only be for iPad, and wont work on my beloved Nexus 10
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on October 02, 2013, 12:47:53 PM
2 points,

1) Worldspan (which only my granny uses...) long had a mobile app

2) this will most prop only be for iPad, and wont work on my beloved Nexus 10

You are right but World Span is not as popular as Sabre and Amadeus. You never know. These days Apple does not rule the app market like it used to.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on October 02, 2013, 09:58:20 PM
This is pretty sweet!

You Can now claim 20% commission on AC tickets issued from USA to Air Canada Pacific destinations until 31MAR14
regardless of travel date!
Sales/ticketing: Now - 31MAR14
Booking class: J/C/D/Z
Travel period: Anytime
Departing from: USA
To: PEK, HKG, ICN, PVG, NRT and SYD, via Canada
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2013, 12:41:41 AM
How many connecting J tickets can you possibly sell?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on October 03, 2013, 11:20:21 AM
How many connecting J tickets can you possibly sell?

Corporate.....a lot!!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2013, 11:26:17 AM
Business pax buy connecting flights?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Ergel on October 03, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
Business pax buy connecting flights?
At a ten percent discount?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2013, 12:32:34 PM
At a ten percent discount?
I'd imagine that employees flying to the far east would prefer flying nonstop on a better carrier more than the business is looking to save a few dollars.
Then again obviously YBMV.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Ergel on October 03, 2013, 12:33:39 PM
I'd imagine that employees flying to the far east would prefer flying nonstop on a better carrier more than the business is looking to save a few dollars.
And I'd assume the companies would like to save a few dollars.
Very interesting  thread on ft about company policies regarding business/first class travel.
ETA: just saw your edit ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on October 03, 2013, 05:17:47 PM
I'd imagine that employees flying to the far east would prefer flying nonstop on a better carrier more than the business is looking to save a few dollars.


+ 1

The companies that are into savings, are into it all the way, and would fly on any garbage. The companies that aren't, would fly the most convenient airlines / routing.
There is not a lot of middle ground, especially for a 5-10% savings.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 28, 2013, 07:47:09 AM
You are right but World Span is not as popular as Sabre and Amadeus. You never know. These days Apple does not rule the app market like it used to.


@SabreTN Sabre Red Mobile Workspace will initially launch on iPad.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on October 29, 2013, 03:23:49 AM

@SabreTN Sabre Red Mobile Workspace will initially launch on iPad.
annoying.. i just got rid of my Ipad a few months ago, but i'll probably buy a new one just for the mobile app... ugh.. apple... i'm a google fanboy...

+1 Using Sabre btw.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 29, 2013, 09:46:15 AM
Hi TA's, how do you guys book hotels?

Via your Software? Or another way?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on October 29, 2013, 06:40:23 PM
Does anyone know whats up with TK on sabre?? it drives me nuts! sometimes there is tons of availability one minute and 1hr later it's all gone?

then i do a search ISTTYO‡TK  (or anywhere that often has availability in all classes) and research again JFKTLV and sometimes availability suddenly pops up again??(though this time i can't get it for the flights i want) does anyone know any solid methods for securing turkish availability? plz, plz, plz help me out here..

i'm not exactly looking to overbook as i heard TK sent out msg's to a lot of TA's warning them not to..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on October 30, 2013, 05:45:44 AM
Their system is quite screwed up. What I do in that situation is pull direct inventory like this: 1¤tk
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 30, 2013, 06:11:46 AM
Hi TA's, how do you guys book hotels?

Via your Software? Or another way?

Unless guys like to play around with the system, but not really interested in making money, I'm not sure why no-one is responding....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: bhphotoman on October 30, 2013, 10:17:47 AM
I'd like to educate myself about GDSs systems (Amadeus, Sabre, Travelport etc.) and how they work. Is there a handbook/book I should be getting my hands on?

I'm not just looking for how they serve as the backend to OTAs (Online Travel Agencies), I want to educate myself on how their systems work and what APIs they have for booking travel.

Thank you for your thoughts/recommendations :)

So any advice????
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on October 30, 2013, 01:16:46 PM
Their system is quite screwed up. What I do in that situation is pull direct inventory like this: 1¤tk
wow, will try that thanks you.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 06, 2013, 09:38:02 AM
Sabre was Released today for iPad only
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2013, 09:46:10 AM
Sabre was Released today for iPad only

&feature=youtu.be&utm_source=html&utm_medium=email&utm_term=SRW_Mobile_YouTube&utm_campaign=SRW_Mobile_Announce

I like the black screen easy on the eyes.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2013, 09:50:37 AM
So any advice????

I am not sure what API's are. If you want to educate yourself, the best way is to take a course. I have personally used http://ott.travel/gds-training.aspx They are very good and have multiple resources and provide training for all the popular GDS's.

You should also look to educate yourself more in the travel industry and get certifications. Check out this website, I use it as well.
http://thetravelinstitute.com/

If you have any questions please feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2013, 09:57:48 AM
Unless guys like to play around with the system, but not really interested in making money, I'm not sure why no-one is responding....

I don't understand the need for an attitude.

Different TA's use different ways to book hotels. A GDS allows you to virtually book anything, Air, Car, Hotel, Cruises, Rail, Car Service....

Their are different online tools as well. There are different suppliers and depending on the one you have, you will either use their online booking portal or book through your GDS through a Bridge to that supplier so you can get those rates.

For hotels I personally only use one supplier and I use their Online Booking Tool and do not use Sabre. I'll use Sabre to get more info on the rooms because the hotel loads a lot of info into the GDS they participate with that I would sometimes not be able to see through their IBE.

I can go on forever.

It's fine to ask questions and I'm more than happy to talk about anything travel. I love it with a passion!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2013, 10:00:35 AM
Business pax buy connecting flights?

Yup. and I'm responding to this super late. Sorry.

A lot of business passengers are very particular about the flight, time, aircraft, class of service, etc. If they need a connection they will take it. Most business passenger tickets I do involve a connection.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2013, 10:02:39 AM
And I'd assume the companies would like to save a few dollars.
Very interesting  thread on ft about company policies regarding business/first class travel.
ETA: just saw your edit ;)

It depends who you are dealing with. The CEO's get to choose how they want to fly. The smaller or even large but more frugal companies have strict travel policies that need to be kept to.

Very wealthy people booking first and business class will take a connection or make a choice that saves them even a small amount of money and I respect that.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2013, 10:04:56 AM
+ 1

The companies that are into savings, are into it all the way, and would fly on any garbage. The companies that aren't, would fly the most convenient airlines / routing.
There is not a lot of middle ground, especially for a 5-10% savings.

As someone in the industry, I strongly disagree with your entire post.  :(
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 06, 2013, 03:04:32 PM
I don't understand the need for an attitude.

Different TA's use different ways to book hotels. A GDS allows you to virtually book anything, Air, Car, Hotel, Cruises, Rail, Car Service....

Their are different online tools as well. There are different suppliers and depending on the one you have, you will either use their online booking portal or book through your GDS through a Bridge to that supplier so you can get those rates.

For hotels I personally only use one supplier and I use their Online Booking Tool and do not use Sabre. I'll use Sabre to get more info on the rooms because the hotel loads a lot of info into the GDS they participate with that I would sometimes not be able to see through their IBE.

I can go on forever.

It's fine to ask questions and I'm more than happy to talk about anything travel. I love it with a passion!
I thought you're on Amadeus.

As someone in the industry, I strongly disagree with your entire post.  :(
With all due respect, he's more in the industry, especially that niche, than you are
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2013, 07:54:24 PM
I thought you're on Amadeus.
With all due respect, he's more in the industry, especially that niche, than you are

I use Amadeus and Sabre.

Quote
With all due respect, he's more in the industry, especially that niche, than you are

I am entitled to disagree with someone and I am not sure what niche you are referring too.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Bp on November 06, 2013, 08:05:27 PM
As someone in the industry, I strongly disagree with your entire post.  :(

whats your specialty that you consider yourself "in the industry" ARS?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: txtmax4 on November 06, 2013, 10:35:17 PM
ARS?
AFAIK he doesn't touch it.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on November 07, 2013, 12:29:35 AM

I am entitled to disagree with someone and I am not sure what niche you are referring too.

Disagreeing with someone is one thing, but taking hostage a thread with posts making you sound like the "Melech Malchei Hamlochim" when you aren't in the industry any longer than any any of us is another thing.

FTR, there are a lot of people here running big companies that may not be such show-offers, and aren't actually just specializing in "cheap economy fares to Israel" but doing big volume of Business tickets for big corporations...

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 07, 2013, 09:07:47 AM
This is getting really ugly and there is no need for it.

1. I don't really know what anyone here does so it's wrong for me to judge. You do not know what I do, so it's wrong for you to judge me as well.

2. I respect everyone for who they are and what they do and just because I disagree with you does not mean I do not respect you. You should not take it personally.

3. This is a public forum and there is no need for anyone to get upset or take things personally. No one is "hijacking" posts and no one is "showing off" or thinks they are better than anyone else. I know that I love being here because I get to participate in a conversation and learn from everyone here.

4. I am sorry if I insulted anyone, that was not the intention.

As this is a public site I do need to respond to certain things that were stated.

I can tell you that we specialize in different areas. Leisure, Corporate, and Luxury travel. We are a licensed and insured travel agency as well as IATA, ARC, GBTA, NACTA, TRUE, ASTA, and OSSN, Accredited. We do not use ARS. We do not do mileage bookings.

Let's keep the conversation going. We aren't arguing, just talking and we all stand to learn from each other.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 07, 2013, 09:31:46 AM
Anyone know how I can get this? Shows up on Sabre when I WPNI, but it seems that seg 1 CS doesn't actually exist

OPTION 2                                                       
1  AA  /IB    5943  Q 18NOV M  TLV  MAD 0610A 1045A 319 0 /E   
OPERATED BY IBERIA - LINEAS AEREAS DE ESPANA                   
1  AA  /IB    5957  Q 18NOV M  MAD  ORD 1150A 0220P 333 0 /E   
OPERATED BY IBERIA - LINEAS AEREAS DE ESPANA                   
1  AA  /**    4319  Q 18NOV M  ORD  PHL 0355P 0645P E75 0 /E   
OPERATED BY REPUBLIC AIRLINES AS AMERICAN EAGLE                 
2  AA  /BA    6129  Q 24NOV S  PHL  LHR 0625P 0630A 777 0 /E   
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS P.L.C.                             
2  BA          165  Q 25NOV M  LHR  TLV 0810A 0300P 321 0 /E   
   1ADT   956.87    956.87                                     
TOTAL FARE - USD    956.87
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: txtmax4 on November 07, 2013, 09:33:33 AM
whats your specialty
We do not use ARS. We do not do mileage bookings.
More like uniqueness but you get the picture :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 07, 2013, 09:54:14 AM
Anyone know how I can get this? Shows up on Sabre when I WPNI, but it seems that seg 1 CS doesn't actually exist

OPTION 2                                                       
1  AA  /IB    5943  Q 18NOV M  TLV  MAD 0610A 1045A 319 0 /E   
OPERATED BY IBERIA - LINEAS AEREAS DE ESPANA                   
1  AA  /IB    5957  Q 18NOV M  MAD  ORD 1150A 0220P 333 0 /E   
OPERATED BY IBERIA - LINEAS AEREAS DE ESPANA                   
1  AA  /**    4319  Q 18NOV M  ORD  PHL 0355P 0645P E75 0 /E   
OPERATED BY REPUBLIC AIRLINES AS AMERICAN EAGLE                 
2  AA  /BA    6129  Q 24NOV S  PHL  LHR 0625P 0630A 777 0 /E   
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS P.L.C.                             
2  BA          165  Q 25NOV M  LHR  TLV 0810A 0300P 321 0 /E   
   1ADT   956.87    956.87                                     
TOTAL FARE - USD    956.87

I had that once. Took me a LOT of work, but I eventually got it. I wish I remember offhand what I did...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on November 07, 2013, 10:27:01 AM
Anyone know how I can get this? Shows up on Sabre when I WPNI, but it seems that seg 1 CS doesn't actually exist

OPTION 2                                                       
1  AA  /IB    5943  Q 18NOV M  TLV  MAD 0610A 1045A 319 0 /E   
OPERATED BY IBERIA - LINEAS AEREAS DE ESPANA                   
1  AA  /IB    5957  Q 18NOV M  MAD  ORD 1150A 0220P 333 0 /E   
OPERATED BY IBERIA - LINEAS AEREAS DE ESPANA                   
1  AA  /**    4319  Q 18NOV M  ORD  PHL 0355P 0645P E75 0 /E   
OPERATED BY REPUBLIC AIRLINES AS AMERICAN EAGLE                 
2  AA  /BA    6129  Q 24NOV S  PHL  LHR 0625P 0630A 777 0 /E   
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS P.L.C.                             
2  BA          165  Q 25NOV M  LHR  TLV 0810A 0300P 321 0 /E   
   1ADT   956.87    956.87                                     
TOTAL FARE - USD    956.87

Try to make a long sell
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 07, 2013, 10:50:17 AM
Try to make a long sell

Knowing Chaikel, I'll bet that's the first thing he tried. ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 07, 2013, 03:39:19 PM
Knowing Chaikel, I'll bet that's the first thing he tried. ;)
:D
That would be correct
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 07, 2013, 07:11:02 PM
:D
That would be correct

See, I know how you think already. ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 19, 2013, 05:32:30 PM
Got started with Amadeus today, took me the whole day just to get IE uninstalled. Such a big multi-billion dollar IT company can't work with current software? Talking that I had to go back to IE8, and Chrome, Chas milhaskir
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on November 19, 2013, 08:07:28 PM
Got started with Amadeus today, took me the whole day just to get IE uninstalled. Such a big multi-billion dollar IT company can't work with current software? Talking that I had to go back to IE8, and Chrome, Chas milhaskir
MT! much hatzlacha!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 19, 2013, 08:29:30 PM
MT! much hatzlacha!

Thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 25, 2013, 09:40:08 AM
Did anyone use HR?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 25, 2013, 09:42:43 AM
Did anyone use HR?

Wuzzat?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 25, 2013, 09:53:42 AM
Wuzzat?
Hahn
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 25, 2013, 10:21:44 AM
Hahn

Oh. Thought he was referring to a computer program.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on November 25, 2013, 11:58:14 AM
Did anyone use HR?
Um... Ye.. I use it sometimes when ticketing through BUE... Because not all airlines work through there.. But its not always worthwhile... I.e less then more...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: txtmax4 on November 25, 2013, 12:24:02 PM
Did anyone use HR?
I use it all the time and it's awesome.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 02, 2013, 07:24:26 PM
Can someone please check if the following is available in Z class for 2 pax?

TIA

20FEB KLM 602 LAX-AMS
20FEB KLM 591 AMS-JNB
24MAR DL 201 JNB-ATL
25MAR DL 110 ATL-LAX
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: PlatinumGuy on December 02, 2013, 07:30:28 PM

20FEB KLM 602 LAX-AMS Z2
20FEB KLM 591 AMS-JNB Z2
24MAR DL 201 JNB-ATL Z4
25MAR DL 110 ATL-LAX Z9
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on December 02, 2013, 08:34:59 PM
so was thinking maybe we could get some FD stuff going on here.. i.e the 1x3x etc tricks and more that are often talked about on FT (although in coded language - which we could do as well) ... "vehamavin, yavin..." unless, there is already a thread about here?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 02, 2013, 08:58:00 PM
20FEB KLM 602 LAX-AMS Z2
20FEB KLM 591 AMS-JNB Z2
24MAR DL 201 JNB-ATL Z4
25MAR DL 110 ATL-LAX Z9

Thanks. This shows on delta.com as well. However they are unable to book Z on these flights over the phone. Any idea as to why?

Also, where did you pull this from?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 04, 2013, 08:28:34 AM
Don't know where to post, so its Here for all TA's...

@winglets747  Air Canada's first 787 routes will be domestic and European flights, then Toronto-Tel Aviv.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 04, 2013, 01:33:57 PM
Tkts in ARS have been added another 15% by the govt
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: txtmax4 on December 04, 2013, 01:59:06 PM
Tkts in ARS have been added another 15% by the govt
AND exchange rate sucks on top of it...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 05, 2013, 10:43:39 PM
Can someone please  price this for me for 2 PAX in economy?

19DEC   EK 226   SFO-DXB
20DEC   EK 524   DXB-HYD
30DEC   EK 525   HYD-DXB
30DEC   EK 225   DXB-SFO

Thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Bp on December 06, 2013, 01:30:25 AM
Can someone please  price this for me for 2 PAX in economy?

19DEC   EK 226   SFO-DXB
20DEC   EK 524   DXB-HYD
30DEC   EK 525   HYD-DXB
30DEC   EK 225   DXB-SFO

Thanks

Are you in the business? your questions are just mind blowing,
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on December 06, 2013, 01:36:00 AM
Can someone please  price this for me for 2 PAX in economy?

19DEC   EK 226   SFO-DXB
20DEC   EK 524   DXB-HYD
30DEC   EK 525   HYD-DXB
30DEC   EK 225   DXB-SFO

Thanks

Before playing around the system, you gotta know the system itself  ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on December 06, 2013, 05:21:08 AM
AND exchange rate sucks on top of it...
Yep pretty sucky... But besides the fact that I think the rate will improve very soon as the peso becomes more worthless, who didnt see this coming anyway?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 06, 2013, 10:06:20 AM
Are you in the business? your questions are just mind blowing,

Before playing around the system, you gotta know the system itself  ;)

I'm slowly learning the ins and outs.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 06, 2013, 10:44:01 AM
AF availability display in GDS is worse then TK in ITA Matrix
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on December 06, 2013, 10:50:45 AM
Can someone please  price this for me for 2 PAX in economy?

19DEC   EK 226   SFO-DXB
20DEC   EK 524   DXB-HYD
30DEC   EK 525   HYD-DXB
30DEC   EK 225   DXB-SFO

Thanks
not avail
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on December 06, 2013, 10:51:29 AM
Before playing around the system, you gotta know the system itself  ;)
Are you in the business? your questions are just mind blowing,
easy guys... we're suppose to be family, and we are, just we need to be functional, not dysfunctional :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on December 06, 2013, 10:56:35 AM
AF availability display in GDS is worse then TK in ITA Matrix

its bad, try taking segment by segment
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on December 06, 2013, 10:57:48 AM
easy guys... we're suppose to be family, and we are, just we need to be functional, not dysfunctional :)
Don't you ever tease with your family members?

There are 2 ways to read every comment. If you know the famous expression "Tate, shick mich hoizen..."

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on December 06, 2013, 10:58:28 AM
Don't you ever tease with your family members?

There are 2 ways to read every comment. If you know the expression "Tate, shick mich hoizen..."
you were teasing but BP was dysfunctional  ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: txtmax4 on December 06, 2013, 11:28:21 AM
I think the rate will improve very soon as the peso becomes more worthless
I really hope for this but, al pi teva, it ain't happening so fast.
Look how long it took to recover from the 20% ZK and now the guy in charge is Jewish with a Jewish mind,  he knows the game and he ain't playing no games...

Obviously there's the 3rd world country factor that we're all banking on...
Well, at least we can be proud of our fellow Jew :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 11, 2013, 01:45:33 PM
Ukraine International to Start New York JFK Service from late-April 2014

Ukraine International Airlines from 25APR14 is launching service to the US, initially operating twice weekly flights with Boeing 767-300ER aircraft on Kiev – New York JFK route.

PS231 KBP1100 – 1420JFK 763 25
PS232 JFK0030 – 1720KBP 767 36

Service gradually increases to 4 weekly from 14MAY14 (Day x146 from KBP, Day x257 from JFK), 6 weekly from 12JUN14 (Day x1 from KBP, Day x2 from JFK), daily from 23JUN14 to 30SEP14, 5 weekly from 01OCT14 (Day x14 from KBP, Day x25 from JFK).

http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/11/ps-jfk-s14/ (http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/11/ps-jfk-s14/)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on December 11, 2013, 02:22:59 PM
Ukraine International to Start New York JFK Service from late-April 2014

Ukraine International Airlines from 25APR14 is launching service to the US, initially operating twice weekly flights with Boeing 767-300ER aircraft on Kiev – New York JFK route.

PS231 KBP1100 – 1420JFK 763 25
PS232 JFK0030 – 1720KBP 767 36

Service gradually increases to 4 weekly from 14MAY14 (Day x146 from KBP, Day x257 from JFK), 6 weekly from 12JUN14 (Day x1 from KBP, Day x2 from JFK), daily from 23JUN14 to 30SEP14, 5 weekly from 01OCT14 (Day x14 from KBP, Day x25 from JFK).

http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/11/ps-jfk-s14/ (http://airlineroute.net/2013/12/11/ps-jfk-s14/)

just warn clients they chnage schedules often and can go bankrupt :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 11, 2013, 03:16:07 PM
I just love the info in 1A. Anyone read thru GGAIRXX?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 12, 2013, 08:57:02 AM
its bad, try taking segment by segment

ADM eligible
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 17, 2013, 01:59:40 PM
Anyone knows how to do a split payment on NZ?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 17, 2013, 07:21:35 PM
Can someone please check if there are any Economy seats available on 18DEC for DL 468 JFK-TLV?

TIA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MEIR613 on December 17, 2013, 08:09:47 PM
Can someone please check if there are any Economy seats available on 18DEC for DL 468 JFK-TLV?

TIA
Nope
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 17, 2013, 08:55:00 PM
Nope
No seats? Or no you cant/wont check?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MEIR613 on December 17, 2013, 09:38:46 PM
No seats? Or no you cant/wont check?
No seats.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 17, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
No seats? Or no you cant/wont check?

You can't check?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 17, 2013, 11:05:22 PM
No seats.

Thanks


You can't check?

I don't have a GDS. Delta is showing sold out, in the past when Delta didn't show availability it was able to be booked in Sabre.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 18, 2013, 06:53:06 AM
Thanks


I don't have a GDS. Delta is showing sold out, in the past when Delta didn't show availability it was able to be booked in Sabre.

You don't have a GDS period or not handy, because how do you book in Sabre then?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on December 18, 2013, 07:35:47 PM
You don't have a GDS period or not handy, because how do you book in Sabre then?


Period!

I send the booking to an agent with Sabre.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 18, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
So everytime you need loads you are going to post here? Make a separate thread for that...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on December 25, 2013, 12:34:27 AM
So everytime you need loads you are going to post here? Make a separate thread for that...
+1 my subscriptions have been going off way to much on something quite irrelevant to me/the thread.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 31, 2013, 04:18:47 PM
AZ is just as worse as AF in space
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 01, 2014, 01:12:50 AM
I booked a DL ticket in Wspn during the glitch, priced out to about $70, but when issued a few seconds later it was $4000
Can this help?


http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/agency/useful-resources/canceled-fare-fare-increase.html (http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/agency/useful-resources/canceled-fare-fare-increase.html)
"CANCELED FARE/FARE INCREASE POLICY
Delta offers a canceled fare and fare increase policy valid for travel agencies in the United States, Puerto Rico, Bermuda, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Canada for tickets issued using a Delta/KLM published fare on 006 ticket stock.
Delta/KLM fares are subject to change and are not guaranteed until tickets are issued. For this reason, travel agents are encouraged to issue tickets the same day as reservations are booked to guarantee the fare quoted.
CANCELED FARE POLICY
The canceled fare policy allows a travel agent to issue a ticket on the same day the fare is canceled providing:
The reservation was booked the same day and prior to the fare cancellation
The ticket is issued on 006 ticket stock
No changes have been made to the itinerary or the name since the fare canceled
For example, a travel agent books a reservation at 9:00 a.m. and the reservation auto-prices. Delta cancels that fare at 1:00 p.m. At 3:00 p.m., the travel agent is ready to issue the ticket but notices the fare has been canceled. Delta will allow the travel agent to ticket the reservation for the canceled fare providing the rules of the canceled fare policy above are met.
FARE INCREASE POLICY
The fare increase policy allows a travel agent to issue a ticket on the same day a fare increases providing:
The reservation was booked the same day and prior to the fare increase
The ticket is issued on 006 ticket stock
No changes have been made to the itinerary or the name since the fare increased
For example, a travel agent books a PNR at 8:00 a.m. and the reservation auto-prices. Delta has a fare increase at 1:00 p.m. At 3:00 p.m., the travel agent is ready to issue the ticket but notices the fare has increased. Delta will allow the travel agent to ticket the reservation at the original fare quoted earlier providing the rules of the fare increase policy above are met.
If all of the canceled fare or fare increase policy requirements are met, the travel agent can manually price the PNR at the original fare quoted and issue the ticket for the original fare without a waiver code. No remark, OSI or SSR is required.
These policies apply to the published fare amounts and do not include taxes and surcharges.
For questions on Delta’s canceled fare and increased fare policies, travel agents may contact Delta’s Sales Support Center or Delta Reservations for assistance."
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 01, 2014, 01:20:25 AM
Does anyone know how to issue this in the USA?
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/agency/useful-resources/europe--train-service-from-ams.html (http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/agency/useful-resources/europe--train-service-from-ams.html)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 11, 2014, 07:09:06 PM
What's the issue of booking SU to TLV?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 13, 2014, 07:02:28 AM
@winglets747 Singapore Airlines and an unspecified "partner airline" will be making an "important announcement" on 16 January in Singapore.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on February 06, 2014, 06:32:22 PM
Anyone know what's the ly flight number on aa's flight from mxp to nyc if I wanted to long sell it on Elal's end?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 06, 2014, 06:40:00 PM
Search on flightstats.com flights MXP-TLV and it shows codeshares
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on February 06, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
Anyone know good resource centers for sabre tricks?  A forum similar to flyer talk for GDS users? Or just a good place to read tricks?
A guy I know of is able to overbook AA, flights consistently.. I'm trying to figure out how, and how he doesn't get a debit memo or something..
Also trying to figure out how to do it with Turkish. If you know of another good forum for such things, plz advise.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 28, 2014, 09:12:05 AM
Wow. Sabre STARs. Just what I've been looking for!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 28, 2014, 09:45:54 AM
Wow. Sabre STARs. Just what I've been looking for!

Huh?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 28, 2014, 10:29:26 AM
Wow. Sabre STARs. Just what I've been looking for!

+1000000 ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2014, 03:18:30 PM
LY is starting to update its J class to lie-flat
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 03, 2014, 07:45:03 PM
LY is starting to update its J class to lie-flat

About damn time! :D

Though frankly, this isn't the thread for that...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 03, 2014, 07:52:20 PM
LY is starting to update its J class to lie-flat

Sort of an explanation; updating the upholstery on the 744s, and making it more "bed type" (what ever that means...) And updating F class to a smaller more prestigious cabin. Whatever....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 05, 2014, 06:49:19 AM
http://www.ausbt.com.au/lufthansa-reveals-new-premium-economy-seat
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 05, 2014, 10:33:04 AM
When AF/SU/LH all provide a waiver due to the unrest in Ukraine, and only Ukraine Intl does not, as they state "Political situation in Ukraine doesn’t interfere airline work". Any ideas?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 05, 2014, 12:34:35 PM
When AF/SU/LH all provide a waiver due to the unrest in Ukraine, and only Ukraine Intl does not, as they state "Political situation in Ukraine doesn’t interfere airline work". Any ideas?
lol, i guess the ukrainians dont know whats going on at home
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 07, 2014, 04:44:56 PM
TK coming down on over bookings, 500€ ADM, and its coming fast
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 08, 2014, 12:17:39 PM
TK coming down on over bookings, 500€ ADM, and its coming fast

500€ total? Officially, their site says the penalty is per pax, per segment. Is that part being enforced?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 08, 2014, 08:22:48 PM
500€ total? Officially, their site says the penalty is per pax, per segment. Is that part being enforced?

Heard from someone that has gotten a memo for a ticket issued last week
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
500€ total? Officially, their site says the penalty is per pax, per segment. Is that part being enforced?

Got some ADMs, wasn't the amount they wrote on their site (500€,pp,ps), but it was very high....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 19, 2014, 09:03:11 PM
lol, i guess the ukrainians dont know whats going on at home

Those Ukrainians...

This is what I wrote them.. But they won't budge

Political situation is not fully normal.
Was wondering, as these group of clients had a trip to Crimea and Ukraine, and due to the situation we read in our papers, and see online, (maybe it’s different there), it didn’t look the best. And the US State department has issued a travel warning re travel to Ukraine http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/ukraine-travel-warning.html and Aeroflot had given a full refund, and all other Airlines provide waiver etc., and only Ukraine Intl isn’t providing anything.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on March 21, 2014, 01:36:54 PM
Anyone else noticed the pricing mistake on aa/us lga-phl-tlv roundtrip pricing at 1049.32 mid summer? Base of 949.00 and 100.32 taxes. Booked a few in the 10 minutes that I knew about it, and then it went back up to 1655.32.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: moishatdansdeals on April 16, 2014, 09:08:01 PM
just warn clients they chnage schedules often and can go bankrupt :)

Do you know if flying Ukraine international is beseder as far as convenience, safety? And does any other miles/points allow me to upgrade to business?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 23, 2014, 09:20:24 AM
500€ total? Officially, their site says the penalty is per pax, per segment. Is that part being enforced?

They revised their policy yesterday to 500 Euro per pax, not per segment
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 23, 2014, 09:22:51 AM
AF availability display in GDS is worse then TK in ITA Matrix


its bad, try taking segment by segment


ADM eligible

For the record, its a 600€ ADM
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on April 23, 2014, 11:43:03 AM


For the record, its a 600€ ADM

Lemme get this straight: instead of, say, NYC-CDG-TLV, you sold NYC-CDG, then searched CDG-TLV and sold it, and got an ADM for that?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 23, 2014, 11:46:46 AM
Lemme get this straight: instead of, say, NYC-CDG-TLV, you sold NYC-CDG, then searched CDG-TLV and sold it, and got an ADM for that?

Of its one ticket, yes.
They call it married segment abuse.
O&D needs to be sold as one
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Side incomer on April 23, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
Lemme get this straight: instead of, say, NYC-CDG-TLV, you sold NYC-CDG, then searched CDG-TLV and sold it, and got an ADM for that?
I just recently got from AZ 400 EUR per person for selling Point to Point. Same scenario.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on May 21, 2014, 11:59:39 AM
Did Delta buy Travelport, or part of Travelport?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on May 21, 2014, 12:52:11 PM
Did Delta buy Travelport, or part of Travelport?
'

dunno, but welcome back :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 21, 2014, 12:58:06 PM
 No impact on Delta and Travelport’s existing Global Distribution Systems agreement which was previously renewed in 2013.

Looks like just an investment
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on May 21, 2014, 12:59:47 PM
'

dunno, but welcome back :)

Thanks been real busy
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on May 21, 2014, 01:11:18 PM
No impact on Delta and Travelport’s existing Global Distribution Systems agreement which was previously renewed in 2013.

Looks like just an investment

I love Delta. They are brilliant.

Is it better to book DL pax on Worldspan? Can you bundle in preferred seating, etc.

And It's awesome now that we can do the preferred seating on El Al ourselves at time of purchase. I am sick of getting yelled at by LY Agents. :-)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on May 21, 2014, 01:11:55 PM
What's your favorite Airline Help Desk?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on May 21, 2014, 06:07:14 PM
I love Delta. They are brilliant.

Is it better to book DL pax on Worldspan? Can you bundle in preferred seating, etc.

And It's awesome now that we can do the preferred seating on El Al ourselves at time of purchase. I am sick of getting yelled at by LY Agents. :-)

How do you do Econ + with LY??
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 21, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
How do you do Econ + with LY??

Amadeus with EMD, currently with OS for ASR and LH as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on May 21, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
Amadeus with EMD, currently with OS for ASR and LH as well
I have sabre  :(
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 21, 2014, 06:44:14 PM
I have sabre  :(

They said "coming soon"

UA E+ seating is now on Travelport only
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 22, 2014, 11:38:49 AM
I just recently got from AZ 400 EUR per person for selling Point to Point. Same scenario.

You paid it? Or fought it?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 22, 2014, 01:48:30 PM
You paid it? Or fought it?

We have gotten in the past 600€ ADMs
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 22, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
Long time in the making, now announced

https://direct.amadeus.com/News-and-Alerts/News-Details/?pid=6258 (https://direct.amadeus.com/News-and-Alerts/News-Details/?pid=6258)

Quote
SWISS and Amadeus sign long-term Altéa agreement to transform the passenger experience
05/21/2014
Ten-year contract will see the replacement of SWISS existing systems, increasing and improving integration across the Lufthansa Group in tandem
Madrid, Spain, May 21, 2014: Amadeus, a leading technology partner for the global travel industry, and Swiss International Air Lines, Switzerland’s flag carrier, today announce a long-term strategic agreement that will see the airline adopt the core modules of the Amadeus Altéa Suite, in order to enhance its reservation, inventory and departure control processes.
 
 By migrating to Amadeus’ fully integrated PSS solution, SWISS will also benefit from more streamlined access to accurate passenger and flight data, as other Group member carriers Lufthansa, Air Dolomiti and Austrian Airlines have already implemented Amadeus’ Altéa technology.
 
 This in turn allows a much more seamless traveler experience across a number of different airlines within the Lufthansa Group, and will enhance partnership opportunities with other airlines, particularly across fellow Star Alliance carriers.
 
 SWISS’s migration to the Altéa Reservation and Inventory modules is scheduled for the beginning of 2016, with migration to Departure Control to follow in mid-2016.
 
 “We are extremely pleased to have signed this important agreement with SWISS, and we look forward to supporting the airline enhance its services and operations by implementing the Altéa Suite,” said Julia Sattel, Senior Vice President, Airline IT, Amadeus. “Indeed, at Amadeus we share SWISS’ total commitment to product and service quality. At the same time, the agreement further strengthens Amadeus’ position as the global market leader in Passenger Service Systems. Our goal is to help our customers provide innovative, market-leading products and services which match the evolving needs of the 21st Century traveller – to connect, serve and manage effectively the entire passenger experience from beginning to end”.
 
 “We selected Amadeus’ Altéa Suite following an extensive and detailed evaluation of PSS solutions currently available on the market. Altéa is the ideal choice for our needs, particularly as it has already been implemented by many of our partners,” said Harry Hohmeister, CEO, Swiss International Air Lines. “Moreover, Amadeus’ state-of-the art technology will empower us to provide an even more streamlined, effective service to our customers, enhancing the overall passenger experience within the LH Group, something we have long been committed to.”
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on May 22, 2014, 04:54:20 PM
What's your favorite Airline Help Desk?

It's a machlokes between ly and ps  ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on May 22, 2014, 05:51:17 PM
Hay guys, what do you think about IATA resolution 787?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 31, 2014, 02:45:28 PM
WTF?!

6/1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS WILL NO LONGER PAY STANDARD COMMISSIONS     
   FOR ALL TKTS SOLD/ISSUED ON 607 TKT STOCK IN THE U S     
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 01, 2014, 03:29:20 AM
ICYMI: LX is coming down on MS abuse
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 01, 2014, 03:43:39 AM
What's your favorite Airline Help Desk?
Let me bear off course about GDS help desks...
Amadeus: Free, great fast service
Sabre: trick to free, service good
Travelport: each sneeze is $5.....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 10, 2014, 05:57:11 PM
Let me bear off course about GDS help desks...
Amadeus: Free, great fast service
Sabre: trick to free, service good
Travelport: each sneeze is $5.....

I find Amadeus and Sabre really good as well.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 10, 2014, 05:57:22 PM
There has been an important update from TK on how their flights must be booked.
If you book the return flight first then book outbound flight, they consider this breaking flight logic. They will cancel you booking for this reason and will not reinstate it.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 10, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
This is always annoying. don't know how European ATC always can get away with this.

Italian Air Traffic Controllers (ATC) are taking industrial action tomorrow, 11JUN14, between 12:30 and 16:30 (local time).
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on June 13, 2014, 12:45:12 PM
Does anyone know of a way to integrate Amadeus with Salesforce? We store PNRs in salesforce and it would be great if it could pull in the flight info (date/time etc) from Amadeus.

Thanks!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 13, 2014, 01:21:02 PM
Does anyone know of a way to integrate Amadeus with Salesforce? We store PNRs in salesforce and it would be great if it could pull in the flight info (date/time etc) from Amadeus.

Thanks!


Do you enter it manually? Do SalesForce have the option to download invoices from a GDS?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on June 13, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
Do you enter it manually?
Yes
Do you enter it manually?
I wonder. How do the invoices look? Excel? Maybe that can be imported...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 14, 2014, 10:03:27 PM
YesI wonder. How do the invoices look? Excel? Maybe that can be imported...
its called an Air file, if this program can download from a GDS then it can, its not like an excel file that you can open.

Sabre Client Base is an option?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 15, 2014, 02:42:12 AM
Does anyone have Amadeus installed on a Windows 8.1 PC?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on June 15, 2014, 03:59:35 PM
its called an Air file, if this program can download from a GDS then it can, its not like an excel file that you can open.

Sabre Client Base is an option?
I'll have to find out. What's Sabre?
No way we're switching from salesforce now... worst case scenario we'll be entering flight data manually (ugh).
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 15, 2014, 10:44:13 PM
I'll have to find out. What's Sabre?
No way we're switching from salesforce now... worst case scenario we'll be entering flight data manually (ugh).

Sabre is another GDS.

Client Base or TRAMS are good options.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 15, 2014, 10:45:26 PM
Does anyone have Amadeus installed on a Windows 8.1 PC?

I tried to much of a pain in the neck and switched back to Windows 7.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 15, 2014, 10:46:24 PM
GDS should show 25% off CHD on LY regardless of Fare class until June 24.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on June 16, 2014, 09:52:29 AM
Sabre is another GDS.

Client Base or TRAMS are good options.
Okay, I'm lost.

What programs can open GDS invoices?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 16, 2014, 06:07:11 PM
Amadeus you do know what is?

I'll have to find out. What's Sabre?

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on June 17, 2014, 09:54:41 AM
Amadeus you do know what is?
Somewhat. I see people in my office using it all the time.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 22, 2014, 11:44:28 AM
Okay, I'm lost.

What programs can open GDS invoices?

Whatever GDS you are using you should call the help desk and see what programs integrate with their systems.

Amadeus has a ton of back office programs that are designed by third party suppliers.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 22, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
When using Amadeus who does an RF and ER after every change to PNR :-)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 22, 2014, 03:49:11 PM
When using Amadeus who does an RF and ER after every change to PNR :-)
RFC;ER
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 22, 2014, 10:08:37 PM
what's RFC?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 22, 2014, 10:53:14 PM
what's RFC?
RF(Agent initials);ER if that was what you were posting, or something else?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 23, 2014, 11:12:38 AM
RF(Agent initials);ER if that was what you were posting, or something else?

Oh. I was just posting how I always do that after each change because I hate the Simultaneous changes messages and then have to re do everything.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 23, 2014, 11:13:28 AM
Oh. I was just posting how I always do that after each change because I hate the Simultaneous changes messages and then have to re do everything.
me too, but did you know about RF;ER?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 23, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
me too, but did you know about RF;ER?

nope, that's a new one. Always did the RF first and then the ER in 2 separate entries.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 23, 2014, 11:19:49 AM
If  you book a pax on LY for next day and it auto cancels because its in the queue and didn't get ticketed right away. Do you re book in same PNR or cancel and make a whole new reservation?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 23, 2014, 11:24:03 AM
nope, that's a new one. Always did the RF first and then the ER in 2 separate entries.

In Sabre you could do § (End Item - key above enter) which works all the time instead of enter and reentering, ; in Amadeus only works at RF;ER
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on June 23, 2014, 11:30:39 AM
In Sabre you could do § (End Item - key above enter) which works all the time instead of enter and reentering, ; in Amadeus only works at RF;ER

Sabre is also much better at handling Simultaneous changes.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on June 23, 2014, 11:46:39 AM
How does gmail get this flight info? Does it pull it out of the email? Lookup the flight #? PNR?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: jaywhy on June 23, 2014, 11:56:29 AM
It pulls it from the text of the email.
Btw, never a good idea to publish your confirmation numbers.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on June 23, 2014, 12:00:27 PM
It pulls it from the text of the email.
Btw, never a good idea to publish your confirmation numbers.
Thanks!!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 24, 2014, 11:45:25 AM
Major Glitch, 1P is not adding the AY tax......
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: elikay on July 01, 2014, 12:27:11 AM
Is this fare at all bookable? How can I get it booked? US Airways cant find it..
https://www.google.com/flights/#search;f=JFK,EWR,LGA;t=TLV;d=2014-08-26;r=2015-03-19;sel=JFKCDG0AA44-CDGTLV1AF1620,TLVMAD0LY395-MADJFK0IB6251
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: sillypainter on July 01, 2014, 12:36:39 AM
Is this fare at all bookable? How can I get it booked? US Airways cant find it..
https://www.google.com/flights/#search;f=JFK,EWR,LGA;t=TLV;d=2014-08-26;r=2015-03-19;sel=JFKCDG0AA44-CDGTLV1AF1620,TLVMAD0LY395-MADJFK0IB6251

Maybe try calling AA. US agents are usually VERY incompetent.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 01, 2014, 07:05:31 AM
AY tax went up, get ready for the new threads that awards are not $2.50 but $5.60, what is going wrong?.....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 01, 2014, 09:44:54 AM
AY tax went up

Yemach shemom.  >:(
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 01, 2014, 09:56:50 AM
Yemach shemom.  >:(
BA once sent an email complaining on the UK APD, they should have first taken care of their own YQ
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 01, 2014, 11:48:20 AM
We welcome LX to the hated ASR club!  >:(
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Motti on July 01, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
Is this fare at all bookable? How can I get it booked? US Airways cant find it..
https://www.google.com/flights/#search;f=JFK,EWR,LGA;t=TLV;d=2014-08-26;r=2015-03-19;sel=JFKCDG0AA44-CDGTLV1AF1620,TLVMAD0LY395-MADJFK0IB6251
Yes
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 01, 2014, 04:02:08 PM
We welcome LX to the hated ASR club!  >:(

?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 01, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
?


LX joins the ASR [Advanced Seat Reservation (for a fee...)] club that includes now OS/LH/BA/LO just to name a few.....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 01, 2014, 04:11:18 PM

LX joins the ASR [Advanced Seat Reservation (for a fee...)] club that includes now OS/LH/BA/LO just to name a few.....

So what's so bad about that?

Wait - you mean even regular economy seats cost money now?! Not just "premium" seats?!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 01, 2014, 04:48:42 PM
So what's so bad about that?

Wait - you mean even regular economy seats cost money now?! Not just "premium" seats?!

Yes, thats what it is, enjoy your stay.....

And LY/LH ASR can now be done in Sabre as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 02, 2014, 04:11:05 AM
Yes, thats what it is, enjoy your stay.....

And LY/LH ASR can now be done in Sabre as well

LY? Or do you mean LX?

In any case...
Yemach shemom.  >:(
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 02, 2014, 07:42:45 AM
LY? Or do you mean LX?

In any case...
LY preffered seats, can now be done in Sabre.
LX seats can only be done via call center for the moment
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: elikay on July 02, 2014, 10:23:37 AM
Yes
Why did TA not want to do it for me?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 02, 2014, 10:03:32 PM
Why did TA not want to do it for me?
Want to do what?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 02, 2014, 10:16:54 PM
LY preffered seats, can now be done in Sabre.
How
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 02, 2014, 10:35:50 PM
How
Basically you select a seat, then you have to issue an EMD against it.
 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Miscellaneous_Document (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Miscellaneous_Document)

I'm not a Sabre person, but I'll try to post some documention tomorrow
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on July 03, 2014, 12:13:13 PM
Basically you select a seat, then you have to issue an EMD against it.
 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Miscellaneous_Document (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Miscellaneous_Document)

I'm not a Sabre person, but I'll try to post some documention tomorrow

Haven't tried it yet, but here's the format:

View available Economy Plus seats via standard 4G entry; e.g., 4G1*

· A banner is displayed providing Economy Plus seat fee information

· Hover-overs in Sabre’s Graphical Seat Map showing individual Economy Plus seat fees

· Select / Book by clicking on the seat on the Graphical Seat Maps or making the standard 4G1/ seat

request entry; e.g., 4G1/6C

· The AE field is automatically added to the PNR and can be viewed with *AE and *AES

· Once status code is updated to reflect HD1/PAYMENT REQUIRED. Be aware of the PURCHASE

BY date/time in the *AES

· Ensure air ticket has been issued

· Status of the AE seat item must be HD (confirmed, pending payment)

 

-Entry to drive payment of a Economy Plus seat

 If using same credit card as used for air ticket, enter WĄEMD*AEn (where n is the Air Extra ítem number)

 

-If using a new credit card for payment of Air Extra WĄEMD*AEn (where n is the Air Extra ítem number to fulfill) ĄF*VI4444333322221111/1216
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 04, 2014, 02:04:48 AM
I apologize if this is a stupid question, but do you need plates to issue an EMD?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 04, 2014, 07:09:33 AM
I apologize if this is a stupid question, but do you need plates to issue an EMD?
Yes, and it gets processed in the weekly ARC report
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 04, 2014, 07:28:24 AM
Yes, and it gets processed in the weekly ARC report
Thanks. Spreaking of which, is there a way to see that report from ARC, not Sabre?

Didn't even realize they report to ARC if I don't have an ARC number, until Amadeus told me my Sabre numbers when I applied
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 04, 2014, 07:33:16 AM
Not sure I'm understanding your q.
Per my knowledge, the (current) day's report can be looked up in each GDS for its own report, and after the 12am ARC-GDS feed, the full report is in IAR.
I know that I can pull up the e-ticket windows cross platform, for example, viewing a Sabre ticket in Amadeus
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 04, 2014, 08:50:12 PM
Anyone recommend a good place to learn sabre for a secratary?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 05, 2014, 11:01:12 PM
Anyone recommend a good place to learn sabre for a secratary?
Sabre trainer?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on July 07, 2014, 04:50:46 PM
I found this python script to scrape checkmytrip.com, but it doesn't seem to be working.

http://friism.com/screen-scraping-flight-data-from-amadeus-checkmytrip-com

Anyone know if this is still possible?
Thanks!!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: jaywhy on July 07, 2014, 07:41:42 PM
Any way to check Southwest loads?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 17, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
Turkish is killing me (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yellow-hd/banging-head-on-the-wall-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

anyone know why i can't get these 2 V class seats in my res? keeps coming up as UC when i take them??

As well it doesnt show the V class when i do a reg search i.e 102OCTTLVIST‡TK/D 

Anyone know how to fix this? TY!!!

 02OCT  THU   IST/Z‡3     TLV/‡0                               
1TK     790 C8 D6 K6 J5 I3 R0 Y9 ISTTLV  915P 1120P   DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L8 V4 P0 W0 X9 N0 G0           
2PC     779 Y9 A9 D9 R9 F9 Q9 B9 SAWTLV  930P 1130P   DC /E     
            L9 M9 W9 H9 K9 N9 E9 S9 X9 V7 Z0 I0 T0 U0 P0 G0     
3TK/**  808 C9 D9 K9 J9 I9 R8 Y9 SAWTLV  945P 1150P   DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L7 V1 P0 W4 X9 N0 G0           
4TK     810 C9 D9 K9 J9 I6 R4 Y9 ISTTLV 1135P  145A‡1 DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P6 W4 X9 N0 G0           
5TK     792 C9 D9 K9 J9 I9 R9 Y9 ISTTLV 1255A  305A   DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N9 G0.         
02V1«                                                           
   TK 790V   02OCT Q ISTTLV UC2   915P 1120P  /DCTK   /E       
REDISPLAY ITINERARY.                                           
*I«                                                             
 1 TK  12T 01OCT W JFKIST SS2  1155P  445P  02OCT Q /DCTK /E   
 2 TK 790V 02OCT Q ISTTLV UC2   915P 1120P /DCTK /E            
 3 TK 785E 22OCT W TLVIST*SS2   950A 1205P /DCTK /E             
 4 TK  11E 22OCT W ISTJFK*SS2   620P  955P /DCTK /E             
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 17, 2014, 06:09:38 PM
do 1¤TK
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 17, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
it gives me less availability now..  ??? not sure how to get around this properly...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 17, 2014, 07:13:18 PM
Does anyone here use TBO?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 17, 2014, 11:49:02 PM
it gives me less availability now..  ??? not sure how to get around this properly...
That's the real (DC) availability. Sabre's availability is sometimes inaccurate/lagging for certain airlines. You can use exchange for accurate results
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 18, 2014, 12:35:37 AM
That's the real (DC) availability. Sabre's availability is sometimes inaccurate/lagging for certain airlines. You can use exchange for accurate results
TK is just as bad in Amadeus
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 18, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
Did you know every time you hit MU/MD (and every key stork as well) in Worldspan you pay?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 18, 2014, 12:37:29 AM
Does anyone here use TBO?
Or which accounting system do you use?
Anyone with clientbase?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on July 18, 2014, 01:17:35 AM
Or which accounting system do you use?
Anyone with clientbase?

we drooped both about 5 years ago vs. a in-house custom written program. but i remember it was a powerful program but not very user friendly
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 18, 2014, 02:35:02 PM
Did you know every time you hit MU/MD (and every key stork as well) in Worldspan you pay?
Well $1-3 per segment compensates for than
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 18, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
for the MR'ers,
Mileage
10008 total miles for 578.70 + 10 ticketing fee.. not sure if you all have the same JCB's but surely similiar...

28SEP DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 21JUL/1641       
       BASE FARE                 TAXES/FEES/CHARGES    TOTAL   
 1-    USD195.00                    383.70XT       USD578.70JCB
    XT    266.00YR      35.00US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            5.00XA       2.50AY      19.60CJ      18.20RN       
            5.40VV      15.00TR       4.50XF                   
          195.00                    383.70            578.70TTL
JCB-01  VKXC3U0/LN614                                           
 NYC DL X/AMS KL IST Q NYCIST12.00M85.50DL X/AMS DL NYC         
 Q ISTNYC12.00M85.50NUC195.00END ROE1.00 XFJFK4.5               
NONEND/NONREF/L-9194/LN614                                     
WHEN TICKETING FOP MUST NOT BE GTR                             
PRIVATE FARE APPLIED - CHECK RULES FOR CORRECT TICKETING       
PRIVATE ¤                                                       
DL HAS NO INTERLINE TICKETING AGREEMENT WITH PC                 
VALIDATING CARRIER - DL                                         
BAG ALLOWANCE     -JFKSAW-01P/DL/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
2NDCHECKED BAG FEE-JFKSAW-USD100.00/DL/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 KILOG‡                                     
*I«                                                             
 1 DL9347V 28SEP S JFKAMS SS1  1055P 1210P  29SEP M /DCDL /E   
OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES                           
 2 KL3102V 29SEP M AMSSAW SS1  1155P  420A  30SEP T /DCKL /E   
OPERATED BY PEGASUS AIRLINES                                   
 3 DL9465V 21OCT T ISTAMS*SS1   600A  830A /DCDL /E             
OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES                           
 4 DL9358V 21OCT T AMSJFK*SS1   515P  720P /DCDL /E             
OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Jkhein on July 18, 2014, 06:01:07 PM
for the MR'ers,
Mileage
10008 total miles for 578.70 + 10 ticketing fee.. not sure if you all have the same JCB's but surely similiar...

28SEP DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 21JUL/1641       
       BASE FARE                 TAXES/FEES/CHARGES    TOTAL   
 1-    USD195.00                    383.70XT       USD578.70JCB
    XT    266.00YR      35.00US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            5.00XA       2.50AY      19.60CJ      18.20RN       
            5.40VV      15.00TR       4.50XF                   
          195.00                    383.70            578.70TTL
JCB-01  VKXC3U0/LN614                                           
 NYC DL X/AMS KL IST Q NYCIST12.00M85.50DL X/AMS DL NYC         
 Q ISTNYC12.00M85.50NUC195.00END ROE1.00 XFJFK4.5               
NONEND/NONREF/L-9194/LN614                                     
WHEN TICKETING FOP MUST NOT BE GTR                             
PRIVATE FARE APPLIED - CHECK RULES FOR CORRECT TICKETING       
PRIVATE ¤                                                       
DL HAS NO INTERLINE TICKETING AGREEMENT WITH PC                 
VALIDATING CARRIER - DL                                         
BAG ALLOWANCE     -JFKSAW-01P/DL/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
2NDCHECKED BAG FEE-JFKSAW-USD100.00/DL/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 KILOG‡                                     
*I«                                                             
 1 DL9347V 28SEP S JFKAMS SS1  1055P 1210P  29SEP M /DCDL /E   
OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES                           
 2 KL3102V 29SEP M AMSSAW SS1  1155P  420A  30SEP T /DCKL /E   
OPERATED BY PEGASUS AIRLINES                                   
 3 DL9465V 21OCT T ISTAMS*SS1   600A  830A /DCDL /E             
OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES                           
 4 DL9358V 21OCT T AMSJFK*SS1   515P  720P /DCDL /E             
OPERATED BY KLM ROYAL DUTCH AIRLINES
10k miles for $578??????
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 18, 2014, 06:07:15 PM
It's by no means a crazy mr, but its very useful for flying people to israel. - plus if you have status, and you need to maintain it, this route is pretty useful.
No big deal -just sharing the savings.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on July 20, 2014, 04:00:22 AM
it gives me less availability now..  ??? not sure how to get around this properly...

It's intentional. They're a bunch of sh*theads w/r/t married segments. >:(
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 24, 2014, 03:15:21 PM
anyone having any issues booking BA to TLV? everything coming up as UC?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on July 24, 2014, 03:31:41 PM
anyone having any issues booking BA to TLV? everything coming up as UC?
You use Sabre? I believe Ba's availibility is sometimes not accurately displayed in Sabre and at times their flights don't autoprice correctly.
I've had such issues several times. It seems like Amadaeus is more reliable for Ba.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 24, 2014, 03:44:32 PM
You use Sabre? I believe Ba's availibility is sometimes not accurately displayed in Sabre and at times their flights don't autoprice correctly.
I've had such issues several times. It seems like Amadaeus is more reliable for Ba.

Ye I use sabre,... I see.. TY.
Any Sabre users know how to fix this thing up?
Also anyone here live in the UK? or know a agent/Consolidator in the UK who can book me some tickets, that are much cheaper with UK sales city?
I'd love to get more than just by booking it on a UK meta flights site
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 24, 2014, 04:43:22 PM
Ye I use sabre,... I see.. TY.
Any Sabre users know how to fix this thing up?
Also anyone here live in the UK? or know a agent/Consolidator in the UK who can book me some tickets, that are much cheaper with UK sales city?
I'd love to get more than just by booking it on a UK meta flights site
1¤BA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 24, 2014, 07:08:33 PM
1¤BA
of course i did that it said it cant show me anything.

130SEPNYCLHR¤BA«                                               
BA - NONE AVAIL.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 24, 2014, 07:16:22 PM
Quote
130SEPNYCLHR¤BA«                                               
 30SEP  TUE   NYC/EDT     LHR/‡5                               
BA RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **                   
** BRITISH AIRWAYS - AN **                68 TU 30SEP 0001     
 7BA  180 F8 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9*JFKLHR  715A  655P   777 0   
          E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9                                     
 8BA  178 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I3 W9*JFKLHR  815A  805P   744 0   
          E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9                                     
 9BA*1511 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9*JFKLHR  620P  620A‡1 77W 0   
          B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9                                     
10BA  184 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I6 W9*EWRLHR  625P  620A‡1 777 0   
          E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9                                     
11BA  112 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I8 W9*JFKLHR  640P  635A‡1 744 0   
          E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9                                     
12BA  174 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I5 W9*JFKLHR  700P  700A‡1 744 0   
          E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9                                     
13BA  176 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9*JFKLHR  730P  730A‡1 744 0   
          E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9                                     
14BA*1517 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9*JFKLHR  740P  745A‡1 77W 0   
          B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 

Maybe you got blocked
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on July 24, 2014, 07:27:19 PM
Maybe you got blocked
I see it now too....
strange i tried it just before like 10 times and it wasn't working - must have been a temp glitch..

asking out there again - anyone know an agent in the UK who can book me a BA flight for UK prices and cheaper? or is ebookers my best bet atm?...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 24, 2014, 07:50:12 PM
Keep in mind that issued by BSP (European ARC) can only be voided same day till 5pm
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 25, 2014, 09:23:34 AM
Regarding remote/jump/AAA.
Worldspan allows you to work in a differnet PCC in one work area, while the other work area could be in a third PCC.
Sabre allows the same, and they allow you to have 2 Sabre windows open (for example, 1 from PCC A, and one for PCC B).
Amadeus on the other hand, you can only have 1 Amadeus open, and when jumping, all areas gets jumps.
Someone has a workaround?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on July 25, 2014, 02:51:31 PM
You use Sabre? I believe Ba's availibility is sometimes not accurately displayed in Sabre and at times their flights don't autoprice correctly.
I've had such issues several times. It seems like Amadaeus is more reliable for Ba.

I having an issue with Ba again. This itin autoprices in Sabre at 9544.02, but on Ba's website and in Amadaeus I'm getting 9038.02. Both are pulling different prices when the itinerary is booked in the exact same rbd listed below.

 1 BA 180I 01SEP M JFKLHR SS1   715A  655P   
 2 BA 163D 01SEP M LHRTLV SS1  1030P  530A  02SEP T
 3 BA 162D 08SEP M TLVLHR SS1   730A 1055A       
 4 BA 119D 08SEP M LHRBLR SS1   210P  425A  09SEP T   
 5 BA 118I 11SEP Q BLRLHR SS1   700A  100P           
 6 BA 115I 11SEP Q LHRJFK SS1   235P  525P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 25, 2014, 05:57:10 PM
That's the real (DC) availability. Sabre's availability is sometimes inaccurate/lagging for certain airlines. You can use exchange for accurate results

TK is just as bad in Amadeus

Turkish is killing me (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/yellow-hd/banging-head-on-the-wall-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)

anyone know why i can't get these 2 V class seats in my res? keeps coming up as UC when i take them??

As well it doesnt show the V class when i do a reg search i.e 102OCTTLVIST‡TK/D 

Anyone know how to fix this? TY!!!

 02OCT  THU   IST/Z‡3     TLV/‡0                               
1TK     790 C8 D6 K6 J5 I3 R0 Y9 ISTTLV  915P 1120P   DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L8 V4 P0 W0 X9 N0 G0           
2PC     779 Y9 A9 D9 R9 F9 Q9 B9 SAWTLV  930P 1130P   DC /E     
            L9 M9 W9 H9 K9 N9 E9 S9 X9 V7 Z0 I0 T0 U0 P0 G0     
3TK/**  808 C9 D9 K9 J9 I9 R8 Y9 SAWTLV  945P 1150P   DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L7 V1 P0 W4 X9 N0 G0           
4TK     810 C9 D9 K9 J9 I6 R4 Y9 ISTTLV 1135P  145A‡1 DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P6 W4 X9 N0 G0           
5TK     792 C9 D9 K9 J9 I9 R9 Y9 ISTTLV 1255A  305A   DCA /E   
            B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N9 G0.         
02V1«                                                           
   TK 790V   02OCT Q ISTTLV UC2   915P 1120P  /DCTK   /E       
REDISPLAY ITINERARY.                                           
*I«                                                             
 1 TK  12T 01OCT W JFKIST SS2  1155P  445P  02OCT Q /DCTK /E   
 2 TK 790V 02OCT Q ISTTLV UC2   915P 1120P /DCTK /E            
 3 TK 785E 22OCT W TLVIST*SS2   950A 1205P /DCTK /E             
 4 TK  11E 22OCT W ISTJFK*SS2   620P  955P /DCTK /E           
In Amadeus, for example NYC to TLV, if I SS segment 1, then when searching for segment 2, the result will be 'no flights'
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 27, 2014, 02:47:14 AM
does anyone know the IATA code and plate number of "La Compagnie" airline?
Can I even see/book their flights in GDS?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: jaywhy on July 27, 2014, 10:28:07 AM
does anyone know the IATA code and plate number of "La Compagnie" airline?
Can I even see/book their flights in GDS?
Hard to believe those guys would pay to publish to a GDS.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 28, 2014, 04:02:02 PM
does anyone know the IATA code and plate number of "La Compagnie" airline?
Can I even see/book their flights in GDS?

Got it.

http://www.iata.org/publications/Pages/code-search.aspx (http://www.iata.org/publications/Pages/code-search.aspx)
Search results for "B0"

Airline name   2-letter code   Accounting code (PAX)   Airline prefix code
DreamJet SAS   B0                    002   

Code: [Select]
DNAB0                                                                           
B0/*** 000 UNDEFINED

Code: [Select]
W/*B0«                                                         
 B0-002 DREAMJET SAS/DREAMJET SAS

Nice prestigious stock/plate number...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 03, 2014, 10:46:44 PM
In sabre whenever I have a reservation with 7 or more pax, LY doesn't give a PNR. Anyone else have this?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on August 04, 2014, 02:37:53 PM
In sabre whenever I have a reservation with 7 or more pax, LY doesn't give a PNR. Anyone else have this?
With a regular booking as long as it isn't more than 9 pax I get the locator. Sometimes when I book the return segment of an open ticket in the original pnr, it doesn't come in automatically, but by the next day it's there.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 04, 2014, 10:30:01 PM
Does anyone here use Sabre Apps/Scripts?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 05, 2014, 05:53:10 PM
Does anyone here use Sabre Apps/Scripts?
Just for EPRs
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 06, 2014, 03:29:36 PM
Just this email from Sabre

Quote
Earlier this year Sabre released a new Sabre Red App, Invoice Itinerary Storage.  It has quickly become one of the most popular Red Apps this year. 

If you are not familiar with the App, I have attached a short 5 ˝ minute demo that highlights the features of this time-saving App.  Please take a few minutes to review the demo.  I know once you see it you’ll want it for your office.  At the bottom of this e-mail I have included downloading instructions.  Please feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.

Demo Link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b6phblyl1uu2xhf/I%26IDemo.mp4

Invoice Itinerary Storage App - $199 one-time charge

This App creates your own local storage database of every invoice you issue…..all stored electronically…no paper!  This could serve as a handy back up if you already have an automated accounting system.  And if you don’t use an automated accounting system, this App is a “must-have”.  You can search, retrieve and email any past invoice your customer may want.  And you can email from directly within the App.  Once you have the invoice pasted into your email, the text becomes editable, so you can modify, highlight, etc.

To download this App, access the Sabre Red App center link below, log in for purchase details and request the App.  You must have Ordering or Admin rights turned on in Agency E-Services to be able to order Apps.  https://www.sabreredappcentre.sabre.com/Sellers/Sabre-Travel-Network/Invoice-and-Itinerary-Storage.aspx
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 10, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
How come Travelport is the most advanced with apps/web while Amadeus is the least advanced?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 11, 2014, 12:47:46 PM
Wow. Sabre STARs. Just what I've been looking for!


Did someone get this done?

"Migration to Sabre Profiles"

Quote
As you may be aware, Sabre will be sun-setting STARs by the end of this year and will be migrating all Sabre customers to Sabre Profiles, our new profile product.
 
I strongly encourage you and your agents to start planning for this migration by preparing with the following:
 
•         Training - there are several training classes offered for Sabre Profiles - from just getting started to advanced administrative classes.  You can take one or all of them!
•         Clean up your existing STARs so that the migration process will involve few adjustments for mapping of information (i.e. delete or update expired credit cards, determine if you can delete duplicate names, be consistent with where you have information and determine if there is something "specific" to your agency and or customers)
 
I have attached a "getting started" notice about Sabre Profiles and will also be running a data quality report which I will send you in the next couple of weeks.  Once I send that report, I would like to have a call with you to discuss what the report contains.  The report is sent in a zipped format, so it will be important for you to have the WinZip program installed.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on August 11, 2014, 02:21:33 PM
If you can do me a favor and book a ita flight for me. It's not showing up anywhere.Not a cross post trying to delete other thread.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 11, 2014, 05:27:59 PM
If you can do me a favor and book a ita flight for me. It's not showing up anywhere.Not a cross post trying to delete other thread.
Cuz it ain't available....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on August 11, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
Cuz it ain't available....
Always thought there was a way to push it thru.....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: aradisc on September 01, 2014, 08:58:51 PM
Question for all you TA folks:

If you find a cheaper fare by breaking up married segments (such as here: http://blog.wandr.me/2014/02/uniteds-best-fare-only-if-you-ask-very-nicely/ ), what happens when you enter it into the GDS?

I assume you sell the segments separately. But what happens when you try to autoprice? Does it sometimes collapse into married segment logic, or can you force it to price the segments separately (or manually feed it a fare basis)?

Do airlines get mad at you for doing this (even if they're clearly valid end-on-end fares)?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on September 01, 2014, 09:00:59 PM
Has anyone here used Amadeus Web Services?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on September 02, 2014, 09:27:27 AM
Has anyone here used Amadeus Web Services?

Yes we use it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on September 02, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
Yes we use it
Cool. Do you find it easy to work with, or a pain? What can it do?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 15, 2014, 03:54:55 PM
Got it.

http://www.iata.org/publications/Pages/code-search.aspx (http://www.iata.org/publications/Pages/code-search.aspx)
Search results for "B0"

Airline name   2-letter code   Accounting code (PAX)   Airline prefix code
DreamJet SAS   B0                    002   

Code: [Select]
DNAB0                                                                           
B0/*** 000 UNDEFINED

Code: [Select]
W/*B0«                                                         
 B0-002 DREAMJET SAS/DREAMJET SAS

Nice prestigious stock/plate number...

Code: [Select]
La Compagnie Joins ARC

La Compagnie Airline (B0/002) will join ARC as a participating carrier effective with sales on September 15, 2014 (PED 09/21/14).

With headquarters in Le Bourget, France, La Compagnie is a premium, low-cost, all-business class cabin carrier operating international scheduled flights between Paris (CDG Terminal 1) and New York (EWR Terminal B).

La Compagnie operates Boeing 757-200 jet aircraft offering 74 flat beds. La Compagnie is the only carrier that flies between Paris and New York offering this model at very affordable fares. 

La Compagnie has elected the General Concurrence method of appointment whereby all ARC agents are automatically appointed as agents of La Compagnie. The carrier will accept Visa, MasterCard and cash as valid forms of payment.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 15, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Code: [Select]
Turkish Airlines Now Accepts Discover and Diners Club Intl

Effective with sales issued on Monday, September 15, 2014 (PED 09/21/14), Turkish Airlines (235/TK) will begin accepting Discover and Diners Club Intl as a forms of payments through ARC.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 08:41:16 AM
Question for all you TA folks:

If you find a cheaper fare by breaking up married segments (such as here: http://blog.wandr.me/2014/02/uniteds-best-fare-only-if-you-ask-very-nicely/ ), what happens when you enter it into the GDS?

I assume you sell the segments separately. But what happens when you try to autoprice? Does it sometimes collapse into married segment logic, or can you force it to price the segments separately (or manually feed it a fare basis)?

Do airlines get mad at you for doing this (even if they're clearly valid end-on-end fares)?

Depending on the airline you will get get hit with a debit memo. Turkish and Lufthansa are very aggressive now with breaking married segments.

When you sell a broken segment and get availability which otherwise does not exist it does not automatically fall in to married segment 'logic" and get starred. You will have a broken married segment itinerary.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 08:43:39 AM
Greetings all,

Does anyone know how to tell if AF equipment has the new business class seats?

Thanks.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 21, 2014, 08:44:18 AM
Seatguru.com
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 21, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
How is DL?

Also, when breaking married segments on UA and issuing the ticket on AC can AC send me a debit memo?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 08:47:39 AM
Seatguru.com

Thanks :-) I guess I can try that..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 08:50:05 AM
How is DL?

Also, when breaking married segments on UA and issuing the ticket on AC can AC send me a debit memo?

DL is very aware and knows of abuse however they are still trying to formulate a way to deal with things. Although, if you issue a Korean flight on DL it doesn't matter. Korean will suspend you from ARC in an instant for the slightest infraction.

Validating carrier is usually the ones sending the ADM's as it's their ticket stock.
Title: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 21, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
Anyone here thinks that it's a good idea to have a charter flight like la compagnie  (see  a few posts up) NYC-tlv every Thursday and return sunday
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 21, 2014, 08:51:37 AM

Thanks :-) I guess I can try that..
I think 6:10 is the new one and 4 pm is the old one
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
Anyone here thinks that it's a good idea to have a charter flight like la compagnie  (see  a few posts up) NYC-tlv every Thursday and return sunday

Not in my opinion. La Compagnie is doing something many others tried and failed already in the same market. I do not understand why this will be different.

TLV- NYC is a whole different animal. Remember the last really long haul all business class shut down on Singapore. It is very hard for an airline to be profitable flying such long sectors in all business configuration. I think the industry needs something a bit better than the A350 and B787 for such a route can be profitable.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 21, 2014, 09:03:09 AM

Not in my opinion. La Compagnie is doing something many others tried and failed already in the same market. I do not understand why this will be different.

TLV- NYC is a whole different animal. Remember the last really long haul all business class shut down on Singapore. It is very hard for an airline to be profitable flying such long sectors in all business configuration. I think the industry needs something a bit better than the A350 and B787 for such a route can be profitable.
yes I know that I was just thinking that all the people who are returning home from work for the weekend it might be an ideal way to travel (just being idealistic) maybe to make a yearly pass
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 09:08:36 AM
yes I know that I was just thinking that all the people who are returning home from work for the weekend it might be an ideal way to travel (just being idealistic) maybe to make a yearly pass

Idealistic + Airline Business = Failure  ;)

It's all about the numbers.





Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 21, 2014, 09:11:30 AM

Idealistic + Airline Business = Failure  ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
Does anyone here issue there own EMD's for LY ECO PLUS or EXIT SEATING?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 21, 2014, 09:17:35 AM

Does anyone here issue there own EMD's for LY ECO PLUS or EXIT SEATING?
emd ?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 09:19:18 AM
emd ?

Electronic Miscellaneous Document used to collect the fees.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 21, 2014, 09:20:01 AM

Electronic Miscellaneous Document used to collect the fees.
thanks for teaching me
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: aradisc on September 21, 2014, 11:24:12 AM
Depending on the airline you will get get hit with a debit memo. Turkish and Lufthansa are very aggressive now with breaking married segments.

When you sell a broken segment and get availability which otherwise does not exist it does not automatically fall in to married segment 'logic" and get starred. You will have a broken married segment itinerary.

I think my question was a little different, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. I'm not saying booking on a leg which only has availability as part of a married pair. I understand that would lead to trouble. I mean booking A->B and B->C where valid fares and availability exists for both but it is still cheaper than the lowest available fare A->C (even when transiting B)- as described here (http://blog.wandr.me/2014/02/uniteds-best-fare-only-if-you-ask-very-nicely/). Would that work, and would it get you in trouble?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 21, 2014, 11:24:12 AM
Does anyone here issue there own EMD's for LY ECO PLUS or EXIT SEATING?
In Amadeus I know

An EMD is an ARC document (except UA).
Trams requires you to invoice Amadeus-EMD's manually
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 21, 2014, 11:24:56 AM
DL is very aware and knows of abuse however they are still trying to formulate a way to deal with things. Although, if you issue a Korean flight on DL it doesn't matter. Korean will suspend you from ARC in an instant for the slightest infraction.

Validating carrier is usually the ones sending the ADM's as it's their ticket stock.
KE shuts down ticketing very fast and no way of getting it back
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 21, 2014, 11:26:40 AM
Depending on the airline you will get get hit with a debit memo. Turkish and Lufthansa are very aggressive now with breaking married segments.

When you sell a broken segment and get availability which otherwise does not exist it does not automatically fall in to married segment 'logic" and get starred. You will have a broken married segment itinerary.
Airline call breaking MS even by selling segment by segment, (ex. JFK-CDG then CDG-TLV).
AF sends ADMs for 500€ and AZ 600€ per pax
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 21, 2014, 11:27:45 AM
emd ?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Miscellaneous_Document (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Miscellaneous_Document)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 12:55:02 PM
I think my question was a little different, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. I'm not saying booking on a leg which only has availability as part of a married pair. I understand that would lead to trouble. I mean booking A->B and B->C where valid fares and availability exists for both but it is still cheaper than the lowest available fare A->C (even when transiting B)- as described here (http://blog.wandr.me/2014/02/uniteds-best-fare-only-if-you-ask-very-nicely/). Would that work, and would it get you in trouble?

As Chff explained when you sell from availability it needs to be origin to destination. If you are leaving from NYC and are stopping in Paris on the way to Tel Aviv your destination is Tel Aviv. You are not allowed to sell JFK-PAR and then PAR-TLV it needs to be JFK-TLV. Airlines determine fares based on markets not point to point trips hence the advent of married segments. If you don't sell as such you are breaking married segments and you most likely will be penalized for it.

It does not matter if 'L' class is available either way you search.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 12:56:23 PM
In Amadeus I know

An EMD is an ARC document (except UA).
Trams requires you to invoice Amadeus-EMD's manually

Lucky you. So you never call LY to issue when a customer wants to upgrd?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on September 21, 2014, 12:57:35 PM
Lucky you. So you never call LY to issue when a customer wants to upgrd?
Can be done in Sabre as well. Why not just call your support desk. They get paid to help ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 12:58:57 PM
Can be done in Sabre as well. Why not just call your support desk. They get paid to help ;)

I thought LY only wants it done in Amadeus.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on September 21, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
I thought LY only wants it done in Amadeus.

Gotta get with the program bud :)

They initially rolled it out for Amadeus only, but it's been available on Sabre for a few months now
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 21, 2014, 01:03:52 PM
Gotta get with the program bud :)

They initially rolled it out for Amadeus only, but it's been available on Sabre for a few months now

I'm not a Sabre Dude
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on September 21, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
Anyone know of a script to get data from checkmytrip.com? ie: put in the last name and PNR, and return the flight info?
TIA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 21, 2014, 03:24:56 PM
With DL if you wait 24 hours before issuing the ticket they don't send DM.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: aradisc on September 21, 2014, 06:11:30 PM
Airline call breaking MS even by selling segment by segment, (ex. JFK-CDG then CDG-TLV).
AF sends ADMs for 500€ and AZ 600€ per pax

As Chff explained when you sell from availability it needs to be origin to destination. If you are leaving from NYC and are stopping in Paris on the way to Tel Aviv your destination is Tel Aviv. You are not allowed to sell JFK-PAR and then PAR-TLV it needs to be JFK-TLV. Airlines determine fares based on markets not point to point trips hence the advent of married segments. If you don't sell as such you are breaking married segments and you most likely will be penalized for it.

It does not matter if 'L' class is available either way you search.

Thanks for the info! Now I wonder if they send a debit memo to themselves when you get it by multi-segment on the airline's own website  :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on September 21, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
I'm not a Sabre Dude

never tried it but once while calling sabre they gave me this script.

*AE

W‡EMD*AE1 OR 1/2 (if you're doing RT)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 21, 2014, 10:43:35 PM
OS passed a note that MS abuse will be 300€ Per segment per pax ADM
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on September 22, 2014, 01:46:06 PM
Airline call breaking MS even by selling segment by segment, (ex. JFK-CDG then CDG-TLV).
AF sends ADMs for 500€ and AZ 600€ per pax

If you book the first segment as DL/AF and the second as AF in order to get better availiblity, can they send you an adm? It's impossible to sell these segments as a married connection, and it does come up in wpni from time to time.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 23, 2014, 01:55:32 PM
If you book the first segment as DL/AF and the second as AF in order to get better availiblity, can they send you an adm? It's impossible to sell these segments as a married connection, and it does come up in wpni from time to time.

try long sell. it works for me
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 23, 2014, 01:56:49 PM
I have only booked LY family plan in Sabre.

I need to do it in Amadeus. Can anyone be so kind as to tell me how to do it?

Thanks a million!!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 23, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
I have only booked LY family plan in Sabre.

I need to do it in Amadeus. Can anyone be so kind as to tell me how to do it?

Thanks a million!!
Pm sent
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on September 28, 2014, 06:07:44 AM
never tried it but once while calling sabre they gave me this script.

*AE

W‡EMD*AE1 OR 1/2 (if you're doing RT)
Playing with adding bag (save pax $15 on LY), seems to be roughly the same idea. Here's what I've got so far:

WPAE-SA*T2 - or whatever ticket line number you are doing. Also possible to do multiple via "-" or "/". For bag switch out "SA" with "BG"
AEĄ1A1 - First "1" is quantity, second is line on extra desired. "ĄN1.1" etc valid for name select. Multiple lines can be selected via "," separator (on LY each segment has its own line, so NYC-TLV would be one line and TLV-NYC another).

Then it's stored in the record similar to a WD. Once it is stored you can check the status with *AE. I think you can only issue the EMD once the status switches from HN to HD, and you have 24 hours from getting the HD to issue the EMD


Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on September 28, 2014, 06:06:45 PM
Pm sent

Thanks so much for your help man!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Emkay on October 14, 2014, 02:23:43 PM
http://m.hospitalitynet.org/news/4067349.html
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on October 14, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
http://m.hospitalitynet.org/news/4067349.html

Sweet! Thanks for Sharing!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
Any Amadeus users ever have an issue with UA PNR's communicating with UA's reservation system?

I have had 1 problem where UA did not see the ticket number and it was showing as un-ticketed. I have also had problems with Meal requests.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: jaywhy on November 06, 2014, 02:57:25 PM
Does anyone here know of a way to ticket a mixed class booking using an OTA?

For example JFK-LHR RT, Outbound in J, return in Y.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 06, 2014, 03:10:14 PM
Does anyone here know of a way to ticket a mixed class booking using an OTA?

For example JFK-LHR RT, Outbound in J, return in Y.
Which airline? At least UA you can do it on their site, as they have that option
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: jaywhy on November 06, 2014, 04:14:29 PM
Which airline? At least UA you can do it on their site, as they have that option
BA specifically. But I'm looking for a way to do it with an OTA for all airlines.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 06, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
BA specifically. But I'm looking for a way to do it with an OTA for all airlines.

I'm 99% sure that's impossible. The Airlines and OTA's just don't offer that advanced functionality to end users.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 07, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
New DOT regulations regarding advising passengers of Forbidden transportation of hazardous Materials.

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=26f0963e11ecf686b6b39604bb1b7860&node=se49.2.175_125&rgn=div8
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 09, 2014, 05:57:28 PM
New Distribution Capability (NDC) is very interesting and is signalling a shift in how airline products are offered and sold. The GDS is going to be around for a long time, even while NDC is rolled out. I find it fascinating.

Below are some links regarding NDC.

http://www.farelogix.com/NDC-Xpress.html

http://www.ndc-blog.iata.org/default.aspx

http://www.jrtechnologies.com/
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 17, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
Good Resource now available to non-ARC members.

https://www.arccorp.com/support/fraud-prevention.jsp
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on November 17, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
just got this message from my consolidator - enjoy!

"We have been informed by Thai Airways just now that there has been a loading issue by the airline. The issue results in bookings being quoted without YQ surcharge. The problem is with all three GDS."
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: meshugener on November 17, 2014, 10:52:38 PM
Old news, see here:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg965920#msg965920
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 02:23:13 PM
Informative Webinar on EVA Air going on.

https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registration.jsp&eventid=884351&sessionid=1&key=49A0158D8AD81CB3C45A4D9647AF9C26&sourcepage=register
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 18, 2014, 02:41:23 PM
Issued my first UA E+ seats on Sabre. Very simple, just select the seats, and once they're confirmed issue EMD in the following format:
WĄEMD*AE(line number(s)). You can see AE lines by *AE
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
Issued my first UA E+ seats on Sabre. Very simple, just select the seats, and once they're confirmed issue EMD in the following format:
WĄEMD*AE(line number(s)). You can see AE lines by *AE


Yay!!! Super proud of you  ;D

That was all it took? Do you have a screenshot by any chance?

Confession of mine:

I have a phobia of EMD's with the ancillary's.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 18, 2014, 02:54:50 PM

Yay!!! Super proud of you  ;D

That was all it took? Do you have a screenshot by any chance?

Confession of mine:

I have a phobia of EMD's with the ancillary's.
*AE«                                                           
ANCILLARY SERVICES                                             
  1.ECONOMY PLUS                     1.1           
    STATUS - HD1/PAYMENT REQUIRED                               
    AMOUNT - 159.00USD                                         
    TOTAL  - 159.00USD                                         
    FLIGHT -
    DOC/CF -                         CPN -                     
  2.ECONOMY PLUS                     1.2               
    STATUS - HD1/PAYMENT REQUIRED                               
    AMOUNT - 169.00USD                                         
    TOTAL  - 169.00USD                                         
    FLIGHT -
    DOC/CF -                         CPN -                     
  3.ECONOMY PLUS                     1.1           
    STATUS - HD1/PAYMENT REQUIRED                               
    AMOUNT - 159.00USD                                         
    TOTAL  - 159.00USD                                         
    FLIGHT -
    DOC/CF -                         CPN -                                                       
W‡EMD*AE1-3«                                                   
OK     487.00                                                   
AIR EXTRAS FULFILLED                                           
OK 6.6                                                         
                                                               
66«*                                                           
ER«
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 02:59:43 PM
 :) Awesome!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 18, 2014, 03:01:16 PM
Bit the bullet earlier today, and have done 9 total. Another advantage of doing it in GDS is that you can hold seat for 24 hours without payment, and I believe without ticket
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 03:03:07 PM
Bit the bullet earlier today, and have done 9 total. Another advantage of doing it in GDS is that you can hold seat for 24 hours without payment, and I believe without ticket

Wow that is a super value!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 07:36:18 PM
Bit the bullet earlier today, and have done 9 total. Another advantage of doing it in GDS is that you can hold seat for 24 hours without payment, and I believe without ticket
Are you sure?
At least LY said that you can hold for 4 hours and only after you have a ticket
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 07:37:11 PM



Yay!!! Super proud of you  ;D

That was all it took? Do you have a screenshot by any chance?

Confession of mine:

I have a phobia of EMD's with the ancillary's.

Seats are the easy ones, the other types (manual) are a bit difficult, but someone like you should have a phobia?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 07:59:26 PM

Seats are the easy ones, the other types (manual) are a bit difficult, but someone like you should have a phobia?

Lol, I don't do it often and I learn new stuff every day. I do the XBAS easily. LY does let you hold the seat max 4 hours and then the EMD has to be issued.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 08:01:09 PM
Lol, I don't do it often and I learn new stuff every day. I do the XBAS easily. LY does let you hold the seat max 4 hours and then the EMD has to be issued.
My nightmares are voiding either/both the EMD and the ETR in IAR, takes makes problems..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 08:07:52 PM
My nightmares are voiding either/both the EMD and the ETR in IAR, takes makes problems..

The IAR looks like a nightmare. I took the ARC Specialist test. The amount to know is crazy. There are so many rules.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 08:09:39 PM
The IAR looks like a nightmare. I took the ARC Specialist test. The amount to know is crazy. There are so many rules.
The IAR is whatever, but the ARC Specialist course doesn't teach you that, the test is so so so so so outdated, its pretty 80s, so far that I had to drop the test, even after they promised me that a revision is coming out but never happened
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
The IAR is whatever, but the ARC Specialist course doesn't teach you that, the test is so so so so so outdated, its pretty 80s, so far that I had to drop the test, even after they promised me that a revision is coming out but never happened

Ha. They still have the UCCF on it. Who in this day and age uses a UCCF?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 08:11:55 PM
Ha. They still have the UCCF on it. Who in this day and age uses a UCCF?
I liked the part of the safe, and what to do when you have a robbery of stock
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 08:14:54 PM
I liked the part of the safe, and what to do when you have a robbery of stock

 ;D ;D

Well you gotta protect those plates!!

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
;D ;D

Well you gotta protect those plates!!
It was about stock tickets and PTAs.. Anyone knows what that is?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 08:19:06 PM
It was about stock tickets and PTAs.. Anyone knows what that is?

You use to have to keep stock of tickets and if you ran out then you couldn't issue. There was a part in there if you couldn't print the ticket, how to write it out.

No clue about PTA's
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 08:22:12 PM

Prepaid Ticket Advice   PTA   Form used when a ticket is issued at the airport of the same or another city.

That's from the ARC Glossary. Still no clue what that means.  :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 08:23:15 PM
You use to have to keep stock of tickets and if you ran out then you couldn't issue. There was a part in there if you couldn't print the ticket, how to write it out.

No clue about PTA's
Don't worry, I know what they are....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
Prepaid Ticket AdvicePTAForm used when a ticket is issued at the airport of the same or another city.

That's from the ARC Glossary. Still no clue what that means.  :)
You basically paid the agent, and picked up the ticket at the airport
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 18, 2014, 08:31:00 PM
You basically paid the agent, and picked up the ticket at the airport

What a wonderful world. I remember our travel agent coming over to our house to drop off our tickets. For a LGA - DTW routing.  :)

They were awesome. All the different colored coupons......
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 18, 2014, 08:34:41 PM
What a wonderful world. I remember our travel agent coming over to our house to drop off our tickets. For a LGA - DTW routing.  :)

They were awesome. All the different colored coupons......
ARC still offers colorful stock...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 19, 2014, 09:06:18 AM
JetBlue IR day, a day you always hate
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on November 19, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
For travel agents only
http://content.travalliance.com/Marketing/email/StarwoodPro_11_13_14.html
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 20, 2014, 10:53:19 AM
Does anyone now what reservation system UN uses? They generate a 5 digit PNR.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 20, 2014, 10:54:47 AM
Does anyone know what reservation system UN uses? They generate a 5 digit PNR.
Probably teletype machine
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 20, 2014, 11:16:55 AM
Probably teletype machine

ALOL!!!!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on November 20, 2014, 12:19:18 PM
Does anyone now what reservation system UN uses? They generate a 5 digit PNR.
Probably the same one as PS. They also have a 5 character record locator.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 20, 2014, 02:23:49 PM
Does anyone now what reservation system UN uses? They generate a 5 digit PNR.

Probably the same one as PS. They also have a 5 character record locator.
According to Wiki, its "CPARS (Compact Programmed Airlines Reservations System)"
Per Amadeus GG, they both use SITA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 20, 2014, 02:36:03 PM
According to Wiki, its "CPARS (Compact Programmed Airlines Reservations System)"
Per Amadeus GG, they both use SITA
What surprises me is that there is a GDS called CRAPS and TK isn't on it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 20, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
What surprises me is that there is a GDS called CRAPS and TK isn't on it
TK has their own, called Troya
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 20, 2014, 02:58:40 PM
What surprises me is that there is a GDS called CRAPS and TK isn't on it

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 20, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
What surprises me is that there is a GDS called CRAPS and TK isn't on it

Literally LMAO!!  ;D ;D

There are really a ton of systems out there. Delta has their own called DeltaTerm.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 20, 2014, 03:30:13 PM
Just a thought. Would anyone want to have a DDF TA get together or is it called a DO?  :)

We can even start our own Accreditation.

ARC
IATAN
CLIA
TRUE
DDF

Dan of course would need to approve that  :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 20, 2014, 03:50:59 PM
Literally LMAO!!  ;D ;D

There are really a ton of systems out there. Delta has their own called DeltaTerm.
Delta uses DeltaMatic which is worldspan with a cover...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 20, 2014, 03:59:40 PM
Am I the only Aviation/Travel Nerd that asks the airport reps if I can a look at their reservation system and start chatting how it is similar or different to our GDS's? And then pull out my laptop and show them Sabre and Amadeus? 8)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 20, 2014, 05:13:31 PM
Literally LMAO!!  ;D ;D

You no longer have an @$$?! :o
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 20, 2014, 05:14:21 PM
You no longer have an @$$?! :o

Now it happen again!!!  :-X
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 20, 2014, 05:38:13 PM
Am I the only Aviation/Travel Nerd that asks the airport reps if I can a look at their reservation system and start chatting how it is similar or different to our GDS's? And then pull out my laptop and show them Sabre and Amadeus? 8)
On my last trip, I tried the same....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 20, 2014, 06:07:34 PM
I assume that you guys are doing everything kosher....... but just FYI UA has become very strict when playing around with married segments. They just sent a debit memo to a friend of mine who made from a solid booked UA flight with a number of  J class seats available, a P class. This is the first time it happened. Since today it became even more complicated to overbook.. So it looks like UA is becoming more strict.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 20, 2014, 08:16:41 PM
I assume that you guys are doing everything kosher....... but just FYI UA has become very strict when playing around with married segments. They just sent a debit memo to a friend of mine who made from a solid booked UA flight with a number of  J class seats available, a P class. This is the first time it happened. Since today it became even more complicated to overbook.. So it looks like UA is becoming more strict.


A lot of airlines are now investing in technology to track broken married segments, hidden city, churning, etc.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 20, 2014, 09:14:55 PM
A lot of airlines are now investing in technology to track broken married segments, hidden city, churning, etc.
They are trying to stop it for decades.. As long they work with married segments there will always be a way to cut out the leg which you don't need... DL even sent out an email that for tickets issued after 24 hours there will be no DM, because they are so confident that their robot will pick it up, still I have no problem getting V/X class whenever I want :)

P.S. I am not a TA, I just like to play around with a GDS.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 20, 2014, 09:46:59 PM
They are trying to stop it for decades.. As long they work with married segments there will always be a way to cut out the leg which you don't need... DL even sent out an email that for tickets issued after 24 hours there will be no DM, because they are so confident that their robot will pick it up, still I have no problem getting V/X class whenever I want :)

P.S. I am not a TA, I just like to play around with a GDS.

I figured that was what all the smiley faces were about regarding the "V" fares.

These days there appears to be GDS's in everyone's house  ;D
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 20, 2014, 10:55:02 PM
Bingo! Booked for some of friends of mine for $928 RT direct on DL in July :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 21, 2014, 11:55:50 AM
I'm posting this here, cuz only who understands understands.....
I issued a US MCO (and voided after posting...) and i got the AA/US Amex credit....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on November 21, 2014, 12:02:33 PM
I'm posting this here, cuz only who understands understands.....
I issued a US MCO (and voided after posting...) and i got the AA/US Amex credit....
nice - lol :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 22, 2014, 10:07:15 PM
Can I get an IATAN card with a VTC?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 23, 2014, 11:03:57 AM
Can I get an IATAN card with a VTC?

Affirmative. Just fill out the application and submit it.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on November 23, 2014, 02:28:34 PM
Is there a way to setup Amadeus, if u aren't a TA?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 23, 2014, 02:33:34 PM
Is there a way to setup Amadeus, if u aren't a TA?

I'm not sure. There will be a subscription fee and set up fee.

You can email them.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on November 23, 2014, 02:35:34 PM

I'm not sure. There will be a subscription fee and set up fee.

You can email them.

What's the email address? The number I have for them requires an IATA.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 23, 2014, 02:58:16 PM
What's the email address? The number I have for them requires an IATA.
Where are you located
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on November 23, 2014, 03:04:19 PM
NY
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 23, 2014, 03:08:26 PM
Whom did you contact?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on November 23, 2014, 05:27:28 PM
Amadeus
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 23, 2014, 06:07:23 PM
Amadeus
Which dept/phone number/email address?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on November 23, 2014, 06:20:09 PM
1800.962.7171
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 23, 2014, 06:27:02 PM
1800.962.7171
That's the help desk...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on November 23, 2014, 06:27:35 PM
That was the only number I knew...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 23, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
That was the only number I knew...
A simple google search returned this
http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Travel-Agencies-Contact-Us-Webform/1319560217605-Page-AMAD_DetailPpal?assetid=1319479344021&assettype=Contact_C&industrySegment=1259068355825 (http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Travel-Agencies-Contact-Us-Webform/1319560217605-Page-AMAD_DetailPpal?assetid=1319479344021&assettype=Contact_C&industrySegment=1259068355825)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 23, 2014, 07:05:23 PM
1800.962.7171

That's the help desk...

That was the only number I knew...
I have to say, nonetheless, you made me laugh...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Eff_Doubleau on November 23, 2014, 07:32:11 PM

A simple google search returned this
http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Travel-Agencies-Contact-Us-Webform/1319560217605-Page-AMAD_DetailPpal?assetid=1319479344021&assettype=Contact_C&industrySegment=1259068355825 (http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Travel-Agencies-Contact-Us-Webform/1319560217605-Page-AMAD_DetailPpal?assetid=1319479344021&assettype=Contact_C&industrySegment=1259068355825)

I saw this, but I don't have a company...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 23, 2014, 07:39:29 PM
I saw this, but I don't have a company...
Just fill in anything, the main they should be able to contact you via email/phone you put there
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 24, 2014, 03:42:32 PM

 TAC
ARC Thanksgiving Holiday Information

Sales Report Submission

ARC's offices will be closed on Thursday, Nov. 27 and Friday, Nov. 28 in observance of the Thanksgiving holiday. Agencies and CTDs will not have an extra day to prepare the sales report for PED 11/30/14. Your weekly sales report must be authorized by 11:59 p.m. EST on Tuesday, Dec. 2.

Ticket Modification/Voiding Schedule

Please note that the GDS/IAR void date for transactions issued Wednesday, Nov. 26 through Sunday, Nov. 30 is Monday, Dec. 1.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 24, 2014, 03:46:29 PM
Please note that the GDS/IAR void date for transactions issued Wednesday, Nov. 26 through Sunday, Nov. 30 is Monday, Dec. 1.
No Ticket Tuesday! (throwback to shiur klali days)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 26, 2014, 06:01:01 PM
AA not allowing Change of original DOB.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/agency/Booking_Ticketing/Ticketing/Name_Change_Restrictions.jsp
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 26, 2014, 06:04:57 PM
AA not allowing Change of original DOB.

http://www.aa.com/i18n/agency/Booking_Ticketing/Ticketing/Name_Change_Restrictions.jsp
Seems that's only if you're doing a name change, no?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 26, 2014, 06:19:04 PM
Seems that's only if you're doing a name change, no?

Looking at it again, I think you are right.

That still hurts. Making mistakes with the DOB happens more frequently than name mistakes. At least by me.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on November 30, 2014, 08:47:17 AM
Looking at it again, I think you are right.

That still hurts. Making mistakes with the DOB happens more frequently than name mistakes. At least by me.

Yeah, but what are the chances of messing up a DOB and a name on the same PNR - and messing it up so badly, mind you, that you actually have to fix it instead of just OSIing a note that it's off by one or two letters?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 30, 2014, 08:51:44 AM
Yeah, but what are the chances of messing up a DOB and a name on the same PNR - and messing it up so badly, mind you, that you actually have to fix it instead of just OSIing a note that it's off by one or two letters?

I always get it changed and documented regardless.

Some airlines are easier to do then others.

I don't think LY ever changed a name.  :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on November 30, 2014, 05:22:25 PM
Lufthansa pilots are at it again. This is crazy. And when people want to get home from their holiday.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: bhphotoman on November 30, 2014, 06:33:17 PM
I always get it changed and documented regardless.

Some airlines are easier to do then others.

I don't think LY ever changed a name.  :)

No they don't not even a letter in a nane
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 01, 2014, 06:13:15 PM
The IAR is whatever, but the ARC Specialist course doesn't teach you that, the test is so so so so so outdated, its pretty 80s, so far that I had to drop the test, even after they promised me that a revision is coming out but never happened

From ARC:

We’ve completed a major overhaul to the ARC Specialist Training and Certification Program and are excited to release the upgrades in January 2015. Changes to the program include updated course content, streamlined technology and the elimination of the current recertification examination.

Travel agents that are already ARC Specialists are no longer required to retake the ARC Specialist examination every four years. Instead, they will be required to complete one continuing education module, hosted on an enhanced online platform, every year to maintain certification.

Travel agents who would like to become ARC Specialists will have the option of taking the course and examination online (also using the new and enhanced online platform) or in a classroom setting, offered twice a year at ARC’s headquarters in Arlington, Virginia. New ARC Specialists that obtain the designation anytime within 2015 will have 365 days to complete the first continuing education module.

More information regarding the January 2015 release of the updated ARC Specialist Training and Certification Program, including the new training website, registration and FAQs will be provided in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 01, 2014, 06:17:14 PM
From ARC:

We’ve completed a major overhaul to the ARC Specialist Training and Certification Program and are excited to release the upgrades in January 2015. Changes to the program include updated course content, streamlined technology and the elimination of the current recertification examination.

Travel agents that are already ARC Specialists are no longer required to retake the ARC Specialist examination every four years. Instead, they will be required to complete one continuing education module, hosted on an enhanced online platform, every year to maintain certification.

Travel agents who would like to become ARC Specialists will have the option of taking the course and examination online (also using the new and enhanced online platform) or in a classroom setting, offered twice a year at ARC’s headquarters in Arlington, Virginia. New ARC Specialists that obtain the designation anytime within 2015 will have 365 days to complete the first continuing education module.

More information regarding the January 2015 release of the updated ARC Specialist Training and Certification Program, including the new training website, registration and FAQs will be provided in the coming weeks.
Great news, source pls
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 01, 2014, 07:04:46 PM
Great news, source pls

Email

ARC TAC Message PED 11/30/14
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 01, 2014, 07:05:24 PM
How many of these types of emails do you get a day  :)

Hello Dear Travel Consultant

My name is mr william kelly i would like you to be kind enough to book my reservation for me and my nephew kindly find details below

1 Course: JFK/CMN/JFK
Departure 05 dec and return 12 dec

Last name:KELLY
First name:william

2 Course:ABJ/CMN/ABJ
Departure 05 dec and return 12 dec
Last name: KELLY
First name: angelas jolie

Thanks in advance awaiting reservation details also kindly includ the form of payment you accept

kindest regards
KELLY
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 01, 2014, 07:30:32 PM
How many of these types of emails do you get a day  :)

Hello Dear Travel Consultant

My name is mr william kelly i would like you to be kind enough to book my reservation for me and my nephew kindly find details below

1 Course: JFK/CMN/JFK
Departure 05 dec and return 12 dec

Last name:KELLY
First name:william

2 Course:ABJ/CMN/ABJ
Departure 05 dec and return 12 dec
Last name: KELLY
First name: angelas jolie

Thanks in advance awaiting reservation details also kindly includ the form of payment you accept

kindest regards
KELLY
I get them as Skype Messages
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: gavhaller on December 01, 2014, 07:34:07 PM
I want to learn how to use these programs. Where do I start?
Do I have to become licensed as an iata agent?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 01, 2014, 09:38:37 PM
Nationwide Strikes in Belgium on December 8 and 15. UA has a waiver out now. So convenient for holiday travel. BRU is a big connecting hub.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 01, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Nationwide Strikes in Belgium on December 8 and 15. UA has a waiver out now. So convenient for holiday travel. BRU is a big connecting hub.
What about LH?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 02, 2014, 07:36:40 AM
Did my first extra bag on LY. Took me a while to figure it out, but finally got it with the help of Sabre support desk.

1. Pull up price list for air extras on the ticket (if ticketed)
Code: [Select]
WPAE*T[TICKET LINE #(s)] You can do multiple pax at the same time for this part. If unticketed, the AE price list can generally be pulled up with WPAE, or by first doing a WP, and then either WP*AE or WP*BAG.

2. Add the AE to the PNR:
Code: [Select]
AE‡1A[LINE NUMBER]3. Send SSR:
Code: [Select]
*AES Each air extra will have an SSR code. The AE will not HD ("PAYMENT REQUIRED" status, which is the only status an AE can be issued on) until the SSR is sent and KK'd.
Code: [Select]
3[SSR CODE FROM ABOVE][SEG#]-[PAX#] On LY 2nd bag is 3XBAS, and 3rd is 3XBAT. You can only send SSR for 1 pax at a time. Sending for multiple pax will return NO. Took me a while to figure that part out
Once SSR KKs the *AE will show status HD, and then you can issue EMD as follows:

Code: [Select]
W‡EMD*AE[AE#(S)]
Example:
Code: [Select]
W‡EMD*AE1-4«                                                   
* CREDIT VERIFICATION IN PROGRESS                               
OK     600.00  162416                                           
AIR EXTRAS FULFILLED                                           
OK 6.6
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 02, 2014, 07:48:49 AM
Did my first extra bag on LY. Took me a while to figure it out, but finally got it with the help of Sabre support desk.

Code: [Select]
WPAE-BG*T[TICKET NUMBER(S)] You can do multiple pax at the same time for this part
Code: [Select]
AE‡1A[LINE NUMBER]
Code: [Select]
*AES Each air extra will have an SSR code. The AE will not HD until the SSR is sent and KKd
Code: [Select]
3[SSR CODE FROM ABOVE][SEG#]-[PAX#] On LY 2nd bag is 3XBAS, and 3rd is 3XBAT. You can only send SSR for 1 pax at a time. Sending for multiple pax will return NO. Took me a while to figure that part out
Once SSR KKs the the AE will HD and you can issue EMD as follows:
Code: [Select]
W‡EMD*AE[AE#(S)]
Code: [Select]
W‡EMD*AE1-4«                                                   
* CREDIT VERIFICATION IN PROGRESS                               
OK     600.00  162416                                           
AIR EXTRAS FULFILLED                                           
OK 6.6
In Amadeus, I never did bags, as those were much complicated process, like manually writing an EMD, amt, present at, etc
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 02, 2014, 08:05:48 AM
Is there any way to pay for an extra bag on UA in advance?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 02, 2014, 08:08:51 AM
Is there any way to pay for an extra bag on UA in advance?
Doesn't appear so. What would be the point anyway, there is no discount for advanced purchase
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 02, 2014, 10:22:28 AM
Doesn't appear so. What would be the point anyway, there is no discount for advanced purchase

Lot's of customers like to take care of things in advance.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 02, 2014, 06:11:13 PM
Doesn't appear so. What would be the point anyway, there is no discount for advanced purchase

Lot's of customers like to take care of things in advance.
Especially if they pay cash, then they need to go from the check in desk to the ticketing desk and back etc which takes time
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 02, 2014, 07:45:41 PM
What about LH?

TWP 2014/23 VERSION 3 (National Strike Announcement in
Belgium)
LH Group Americas Ticketing Waiver Policy 2014/23 v3 (National Strike Belgium)
02 December 2014
LH Group Ticketing Waiver Policy – National Strike Announcement in
Belgium for 08 and 15 Dec 2014
Situation:
This Ticketing Waiver Policy is triggered by: National strike announcement for December 8
th and 15th
,
2014.
Eligibility:
Passengers holding LH/LX/OS/SN tickets for the following LH/LX/OS/SN/4U operated flights and/or
OAL operated flights with LH/LX/OS/SN/4U flight numbers (code-share):
► Flights from/to Belgium:
 on 8
th and 15th December 2014
► Tickets must be issued on/before 02/DEC/2014
Rebooking:
In addition to the respective LH Group Carriers standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities:
► One Rebooking permitted free of charge:
 a) The new date of travel must be on/before 19/MAR/2015
 b) Rebooking in original ticketed booking class/RBD
Exception: For LH-Group operated flights (LH/LX/OS/VO/SN/4U): rebooking to the same or next
available booking class/RBD within the same compartment is permitted.
 The change of origin/destination and class of service/compartment is not permitted
 c) Conditions regarding flight carrier restrictions must be observed any time.
 Exception: Rebooking on LH Group flights (LH/LX/OS/SN/4U-flight numbers) operated by LH Group
 carriers (LH/LX/OS/SN/4U) is permitted for all fares
 d) All other conditions must be observed as per original ticket.
Refund:
 In addition to the respective LH Group Carriers standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities:

► Refund is not allowed if flight is not cancelledTWP 2014/23 VERSION 3 (National Strike Announcement in
Belgium)
LH Group Americas Ticketing Waiver Policy 2014/23 v3 (National Strike Belgium)
02 December 2014
Instructions:
Lufthansa (LH):
 ► In case of revalidation, OSI entry must be made: “OSI LH 2314”
 ► In case of reissue, endorsement entry must be made: “2314”
Please note that by LH guidelines, utilization of Goodwill policies regarding ticket exchanges of LH 220 tickets can be
done by the travel agents, IF the rebooking and ticket exchange are done exactly as described above in the
current TWP – Ticket Waiver Policy. All other ticket exchanges, not outlined above, are restricted to LH only – please
contact your LH Service Team
Swiss (LX):
► In general the standard irregularity policy for rebooking, refund and partial refund applies.
► Travel Agents must contact SWISS for re-bookings/ticket exchanges/re-issues.
Austrian Airlines (OS):
► Reissue is mandatory and an endorsement entry must be made: “TWP 2314”
Brussels Airlines (SN):
► In general the standard irregularity policy for rebooking and refund applies.
► Reissue is mandatory and an endorsement entry must be made: “TWP 23/2014”
Germanwings (4U):
► Reissue is mandatory and an endorsement entry must be made: “2314”
Information only: Standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities
► In case of cancelled flights: The standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities of the respective LH
Group Carrier applies, irrespective of the ticket issuing carrier.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 02, 2014, 07:46:29 PM
TWP 2014/23 VERSION 3 (National Strike Announcement in
Belgium)
LH Group Americas Ticketing Waiver Policy 2014/23 v3 (National Strike Belgium)
02 December 2014
LH Group Ticketing Waiver Policy – National Strike Announcement in
Belgium for 08 and 15 Dec 2014
Situation:
This Ticketing Waiver Policy is triggered by: National strike announcement for December 8
th and 15th
,
2014.
Eligibility:
Passengers holding LH/LX/OS/SN tickets for the following LH/LX/OS/SN/4U operated flights and/or
OAL operated flights with LH/LX/OS/SN/4U flight numbers (code-share):
► Flights from/to Belgium:
 on 8
th and 15th December 2014
► Tickets must be issued on/before 02/DEC/2014
Rebooking:
In addition to the respective LH Group Carriers standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities:
► One Rebooking permitted free of charge:
 a) The new date of travel must be on/before 19/MAR/2015
 b) Rebooking in original ticketed booking class/RBD
Exception: For LH-Group operated flights (LH/LX/OS/VO/SN/4U): rebooking to the same or next
available booking class/RBD within the same compartment is permitted.
 The change of origin/destination and class of service/compartment is not permitted
 c) Conditions regarding flight carrier restrictions must be observed any time.
 Exception: Rebooking on LH Group flights (LH/LX/OS/SN/4U-flight numbers) operated by LH Group
 carriers (LH/LX/OS/SN/4U) is permitted for all fares
 d) All other conditions must be observed as per original ticket.
Refund:
 In addition to the respective LH Group Carriers standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities:

► Refund is not allowed if flight is not cancelledTWP 2014/23 VERSION 3 (National Strike Announcement in
Belgium)
LH Group Americas Ticketing Waiver Policy 2014/23 v3 (National Strike Belgium)
02 December 2014
Instructions:
Lufthansa (LH):
 ► In case of revalidation, OSI entry must be made: “OSI LH 2314”
 ► In case of reissue, endorsement entry must be made: “2314”
Please note that by LH guidelines, utilization of Goodwill policies regarding ticket exchanges of LH 220 tickets can be
done by the travel agents, IF the rebooking and ticket exchange are done exactly as described above in the
current TWP – Ticket Waiver Policy. All other ticket exchanges, not outlined above, are restricted to LH only – please
contact your LH Service Team
Swiss (LX):
► In general the standard irregularity policy for rebooking, refund and partial refund applies.
► Travel Agents must contact SWISS for re-bookings/ticket exchanges/re-issues.
Austrian Airlines (OS):
► Reissue is mandatory and an endorsement entry must be made: “TWP 2314”
Brussels Airlines (SN):
► In general the standard irregularity policy for rebooking and refund applies.
► Reissue is mandatory and an endorsement entry must be made: “TWP 23/2014”
Germanwings (4U):
► Reissue is mandatory and an endorsement entry must be made: “2314”
Information only: Standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities
► In case of cancelled flights: The standard involuntary policy for flight irregularities of the respective LH
Group Carrier applies, irrespective of the ticket issuing carrier.
I got the waiver details, I was just mentioning that they strike every Monday & Thursday as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 02, 2014, 07:48:15 PM
I got the waiver details, I was just mentioning that they strike every Monday & Thursday as well

LOL yup.

If they keep this up LH and Air France is gonna cease to exist. LH lost over $600 million in revenue already from their pilots actions.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 05, 2014, 12:29:12 AM
I called Sabre Tech support today, and the rep spoke a great English, so I ask him where he is located, he said in Krakow. They have there 6 people for tech support, all other are in Uruguay
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 05, 2014, 12:40:55 AM
You use to have to keep stock of tickets and if you ran out then you couldn't issue. There was a part in there if you couldn't print the ticket, how to write it out.

No clue about PTA's
Those who are still using ticket printers, Sabre requires accountable stock (the one you need to keep in the 200lb safe, and can only order based on... (That part of the test was a bit stupid). So back here, ARC should not be aware of the amount of blanks I keep in my pocket, according to them, it worth millions...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 05, 2014, 12:47:02 AM
Success! I had someone issued on a P class RT TLV-EWR on UA, his original ticket was to return 02DEC but he had to stay here until next week Monday 08DEC, there was just one D class available (both, DL and UA are sold out in J next week) and UA wanted a $240 penalty plus around $800 in fare difference. I called in a UA call center in Asia yesterday and explained some BS that my original flight had a half an hour delay and I was not able to catch a different connection in TLV and I request them to please put me on a flight on 08DEC where I can catch my connection, so the rep says okay but there is a penalty and a fare difference so I explained that because UA messed up my connection they have to rebook me, so she said okay I can waive the penalty but I can't sell you the last J seat on the flight for the same 4k you paid, long story short after speaking to supervisor they overbooked P class and I saved that guy $1,000!!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 05, 2014, 01:52:30 PM
El Al is going to require agents to issue EMD's for Extra baggage from January 2015.

$15 Service Fee will apply for call center to issue.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 11, 2014, 12:32:09 PM
Would anyone like to be a doll and explain how to book the chargeable seats on El Al. In Amadeus.  :)

Thank you.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 11, 2014, 12:40:39 PM
Would anyone like to be a doll and explain how to book the chargeable seats on El Al. In Amadeus.  :)

Thank you.
Don't know 1A, but did you try selecting the seat and issuing an EMD on it?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 11, 2014, 01:02:23 PM
Would anyone like to be a doll and explain how to book the chargeable seats on El Al. In Amadeus.  :)

Thank you.
Email will be sent
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 11, 2014, 03:09:16 PM
Email will be sent

Thanks so much! I did it easily.

The only thing to fear is fear itself  ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 11, 2014, 06:07:36 PM
My father went to Israel with DL on a Z class (without a weekend, got a waiver) he decided that he wants to come home next week Sunday instead of Motzei Shabbos, there was just 1 J class left, the best I was able to make out of it was a C class. I called in with some BS and got it reissued for free. (they left the C class)

Guys, here is the trick to make some easy $. I did it for my father so I didn't charge him anything. But for a customer if he really wants that flight and there is only one C class left, just find a way to reissue it for free and charge the customer $4/500 (still a steal for the customer)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 12, 2014, 11:07:38 AM
My father went to Israel with DL on a Z class (without a weekend, got a waiver) he decided that he wants to come home next week Sunday instead of Motzei Shabbos, there was just 1 J class left, the best I was able to make out of it was a C class. I called in with some BS and got it reissued for free. (they left the C class)

Guys, here is the trick to make some easy $. I did it for my father so I didn't charge him anything. But for a customer if he really wants that flight and there is only one C class left, just find a way to reissue it for free and charge the customer $4/500 (still a steal for the customer)

ethical

adjective
1.
pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct.
2.
being in accordance with the rules or standards for right conduct or practice, especially the standards of a profession.

source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethical (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethical)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mileagejunkie on December 12, 2014, 11:24:40 AM

ethical

adjective
1.
pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct.
2.
being in accordance with the rules or standards for right conduct or practice, especially the standards of a profession.

source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethical (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethical)

+100000
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: icapd1 on December 12, 2014, 12:32:30 PM
ethical

adjective
1.
pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct.
2.
being in accordance with the rules or standards for right conduct or practice, especially the standards of a profession.

source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethical (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ethical)

Couldn’t agree more.
If there’s a legitimate reason for the airline to waive the penalty and fare differential than it would be fair to pass the savings to the customer (obviously a TA can charge a service fee for their time). If it’s a voluntary exchange, then you have to really bend the truth to get the penalty waived. So in essence you’d be lying through your teeth to get the fee waived and then keep a chunk of the savings for yourself as a reward for being “inventive”. That’s lying and stealing IMHO.
If you can get the penalty waived as a courtesy without making up a story, then it’s a totally different situation.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 14, 2014, 11:26:56 AM
New Distribution Capability (NDC) is very interesting and is signalling a shift in how airline products are offered and sold. The GDS is going to be around for a long time, even while NDC is rolled out. I find it fascinating.

Below are some links regarding NDC.

http://www.farelogix.com/NDC-Xpress.html

http://www.ndc-blog.iata.org/default.aspx

http://www.jrtechnologies.com/

ARC has a pretty detailed explanation of NDC in this report

https://www.arccorp.com/email/201411_ARC_NDC_Paper.pdf (https://www.arccorp.com/email/201411_ARC_NDC_Paper.pdf)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 17, 2014, 01:49:19 PM
Anyone know how to issue NET in Sabre with upsell built in?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 17, 2014, 03:17:21 PM
Anyone know how to issue NET in Sabre with upsell built in?
Email on the way
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on December 17, 2014, 07:25:41 PM
seems like QF just made a whole bunch of changes on their flights to the USA today.. QF 15 became 11, 108 became 18 or something like that in short it's all changed and lots of schedule changes.. blah... :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 18, 2014, 11:01:02 AM
Email on the way

You know you're awesome!

 :)
Title: United Airlines E-Ticket in GDS But Not In United System
Post by: Mordy788 on December 18, 2014, 04:18:28 PM
Has anyone ticketed a passenger on United Airlines with or without a code-share and have the tickets showing in the GDS but United saying there is no ticket? Are you a traveler that this has happened to?

This happened to me once when using Amadeus.

Thanks.

Title: Re: United Airlines E-Ticket in GDS But Not In United System
Post by: chff on December 18, 2014, 04:23:30 PM
Has anyone ticketed a passenger on United Airlines with or without a code-share and have the tickets showing in the GDS but United saying there is no ticket? Are you a traveler that this has happened to?

This happened to me once when using Amadeus.

Thanks.
Think this should be in the GDS thread.
Had once the where the SR came back as NO (KSML not offered on UA 84/90) and Amadeus claim the link was down
Title: Re: United Airlines E-Ticket in GDS But Not In United System
Post by: Mordy788 on December 18, 2014, 04:29:10 PM
Admin please move to GDS thread.

I have had the same thing with KSML on UA with Amadeus. I had to call United for them to put the KSML in.
Title: Re: United Airlines E-Ticket in GDS But Not In United System
Post by: jaywhy on December 18, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
I had that once.
Eventually it showed up.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 21, 2014, 07:19:40 PM
Not at my pleasure.
Amadeus recycles OIDs, and just had them make a major privacy mistake/screwup for the second time
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 22, 2014, 02:47:02 PM
With DL if I leave out an E on a ticket. Lets say Liberman instead of Leiberman. Will the passenger have any problems at the airport?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 22, 2014, 02:49:48 PM
With DL if I leave out an E on a ticket. Lets say Liberman instead of Leiberman. Will the passenger have any problems at the airport?

Just Change it. DL allows it for just one letter.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 22, 2014, 02:52:14 PM
Just Change it. DL allows it for just one letter.
Im afraid that the guy is blacklisted. Thats why I want to spell it one letter off.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 23, 2014, 03:24:54 PM
Amadeus is finally updating the emails to 1990s style, yay!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: manicsocks on December 25, 2014, 10:47:35 AM
I'm posting this here, cuz only who understands understands.....
I issued a US MCO (and voided after posting...) and i got the AA/US Amex credit....

CHFF, can you issue MCOs to others on the forum? 
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 25, 2014, 04:53:11 PM
Amadeus is finally updating the emails to 1990s style, yay!

What does that mean?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 25, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
What does that mean?

They are coming out with a email system (when sending an email from the PNR) http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783 (http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783), similar what is offered in the Benelux counties http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783 (http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 25, 2014, 05:56:38 PM
About time :-)

Have you got the update yet?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 25, 2014, 05:57:35 PM
About time :-)

Have you got the update yet?
Awaiting more info from my rep
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 25, 2014, 11:26:34 PM
Awaiting more info from my rep
Half of the company is off till Jan 5
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on December 26, 2014, 04:42:58 AM
Half of the company is off till Jan 5

Extended nittel. 😁
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 02:46:23 PM
When a airline revalidates a ticket (I wanted to change the date) do I get a new ticket number?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 28, 2014, 02:47:35 PM
When a airline revalidates a ticket (I wanted to change the date) do I get a new ticket number?
"Revalidation" stands for redoing the same ticket. An exch would result in a new ticket number
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 02:53:44 PM
"Revalidation" stands for redoing the same ticket. An exch would result in a new ticket number
They changed my ticket to one day earlier. They told me that there was no need for reissue just re-validate. Makes sense? Anywhere I can make sure that I am good to go?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 28, 2014, 02:54:20 PM
They changed my ticket to one day earlier. They told me that there was no need for reissue just re-validate. Makes sense? Anywhere I can make sure that I am good to go?
LH?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 02:55:01 PM
LH?
AZ ticket stock. On DL metal.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 28, 2014, 02:56:26 PM
AZ ticket stock. On DL metal.
Check ETR
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 02:58:22 PM
Check ETR
What is ETR? electronic TICKET RECEIPT?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 28, 2014, 03:00:49 PM
What is ETR? electronic TICKET RECEIPT?
What GDS
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 03:02:22 PM
What GDS
No GDS. An AZ mileage ticket.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 28, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
No GDS. An AZ mileage ticket.
Check the website if the ticket number was changed
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 03:05:57 PM
Ive had with DL when I booked someone in Amadeus and after the customer took the first segment I changed the return and didn't reissue it. After a couple of weeks I checked with DL and it was re-validated by it self on the new date. But when I check the ETR it still shows the old segment.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 03:07:22 PM
Check the website if the ticket number was changed
Ticket number is the same. Thats what the agent tried telling me that the ticket number will stay the same and he just has to revalidate the ticket on the new date. Does he know what he is talking about?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 28, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
No GDS. An AZ mileage ticket.
Wrong thread
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 03:18:29 PM
Wrong thread
Not quite..... Should have the same Kelulim. At least reg my issue.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 28, 2014, 03:18:56 PM
Wrong thread
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 03:21:41 PM

:(

My question is if it can be the same case as here.
Ive had with DL when I booked someone in Amadeus and after the customer took the first segment I changed the return and didn't reissue it. After a couple of weeks I checked with DL and it was re-validated by it self on the new date. But when I check the ETR it still shows the old segment.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 28, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
:(

My question is if it can be the same case as here.

Different rules and procedures for tickets issued automatically than tickets issued in an Agency's GDS.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 28, 2014, 03:50:40 PM
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/star-alliance/938434-whats-difference-between-revalidation-reissue.html
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 29, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Anyone issue XBAS for DL in Amadeus?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 29, 2014, 05:26:40 PM
Anyone issue XBAS for DL in Amadeus?
AFAIK DL doesn't publish XBAS for GDS
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 29, 2014, 05:28:06 PM
AFAIK DL doesn't publish XBAS for GDS

I think WorldSpan users can do it.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 29, 2014, 05:28:45 PM
Anyone seeing this message popping up in the GDS now?

33 RM NOTIFY PASSENGER PRIOR TO TICKET PURCHASE & CHECK-IN:
       FEDERAL LAWS FORBID THE CARRIAGE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS -               
       GGAMAUSHAZ/S2-3
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 29, 2014, 05:29:14 PM
Anyone seeing this message popping up in the GDS now?

33 RM NOTIFY PASSENGER PRIOR TO TICKET PURCHASE & CHECK-IN:
       FEDERAL LAWS FORBID THE CARRIAGE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS -               
       GGAMAUSHAZ/S2-3
Saw it today as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 29, 2014, 05:32:11 PM
Saw it today as well

I got a bunch of new RIR lines now in all the bookings about Hazmat. :)

 51 RIR ***TRANSPORTATION OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS***                             
 52 RIR FEDERAL LAW FORBIDS THE CARRIAGE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIAL                 
 53 RIR ABOARD THE AIRCRAFT, IN YOUR LUGGAGE, OR ON YOUR PERSON                 
 54 RIR SPARE BATTERIES AND FUEL CELLS ARE NOT PERMITTED                       
 55 RIR IN CHECKED OR HOLD BAGGAGE 

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 29, 2014, 05:51:07 PM


53 RIR OR ON YOUR PERSON                 

Kept hearing this line when calling Korean Air
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 29, 2014, 08:19:07 PM
Anyone seeing this message popping up in the GDS now?

33 RM NOTIFY PASSENGER PRIOR TO TICKET PURCHASE & CHECK-IN:
       FEDERAL LAWS FORBID THE CARRIAGE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS -               
       GGAMAUSHAZ/S2-3
Gets me annoyed
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 30, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
Am I the only Aviation/Travel Nerd that asks the airport reps if I can a look at their reservation system and start chatting how it is similar or different to our GDS's? And then pull out my laptop and show them Sabre and Amadeus? 8)
Does anyone find interesting how the PNRs look at the airlines end, especially when there is an award ticket or upgrade? How they price it etc?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 30, 2014, 08:44:07 PM
JFK-TLV on DL 5Jan has just 1 J class. But ATL-JFK-TLV has 4 D classes  :o Whats the logic and when can I expect for DL to open up more seats on JFK-TLV. I need 2 J classes.....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on December 31, 2014, 05:19:35 PM
Does anyone find interesting how the PNRs look at the airlines end, especially when there is an award ticket or upgrade? How they price it etc?

I don't really know what it looks like. Have you seen it?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 31, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
I don't really know what it looks like. Have you seen it?
Seen LY awards & upgrades, paid seats (from there end, how they process the CVV), LH ID tickets, AF award seat (extra legroom) and more
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 01, 2015, 10:31:59 AM
Booked a payable seat on AF. Exit seats (extra legroom) are 6500 miles, seat on the upper level (A380) are 12000. So an exit seat on the upper level is half the price of a regular
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on January 06, 2015, 03:58:14 PM
have client with a AA PNR = HAASBBQ, Has BBQ :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Dr Moose on January 06, 2015, 06:07:36 PM
have client with a AA PNR = HAASBBQ, Has BBQ :)
there's actually a whole thread like this

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18708
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on January 21, 2015, 06:09:54 PM
anyone knows how to add a BYOK meal request someone asked me for it :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 21, 2015, 06:17:52 PM
anyone knows how to add a BYOK meal request someone asked me for it :P
By calling POM?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on January 21, 2015, 06:22:48 PM
By calling POM?
maybe have an airline like SQ or LH call them
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 21, 2015, 06:25:12 PM
maybe have an airline like SQ or LH call them
That's not BYOK. Do you know what BYOK stands for? Especially the O part?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 21, 2015, 06:52:20 PM
They are coming out with a email system (when sending an email from the PNR) http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783 (http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783), similar what is offered in the Benelux counties http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783 (http://www.amadeus.com/web/amadeus/en_1A-corporate/Travel-agencies/Our-portfolio/Serve/Traveller-servicing/Amadeus-Dynamic-Travel-Documents/1319581644647-Solution_C-AMAD_ProductDetailPpal-1319560218703?industrySegment=1259068355825&level2=1319608963678&level3=1319609097783)
Today there was a webinar on this product, they have a lite and premium version


And they mentioned that due to the new DOT law, it includes this as well
Anyone seeing this message popping up in the GDS now?

33 RM NOTIFY PASSENGER PRIOR TO TICKET PURCHASE & CHECK-IN:
       FEDERAL LAWS FORBID THE CARRIAGE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS -               
       GGAMAUSHAZ/S2-3
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 22, 2015, 02:22:25 AM
have client with a AA PNR = HAASBBQ, Has BBQ :)

7 letters? ???
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 26, 2015, 03:41:03 AM
Does anyone know if I'm allowed to protect with UA waiver code on their website on an alternative airline. Particularly a partner such as LX/AC that prices as an exchange and I just want to use the waiver to waive the change fee?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 26, 2015, 11:08:23 AM
Does anyone know if I'm allowed to protect with UA waiver code on their website on an alternative airline. Particularly a partner such as LX/AC that prices as an exchange and I just want to use the waiver to waive the change fee?
Answer is no. To reprotect on any airline other than UA, UA must exchange
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 26, 2015, 11:09:41 AM
Answer is no. To reprotect on any airline other than UA, UA must exchange
Good to know. By LH, other then their group, with a direct waiver (given to you) you can rebook on another airline
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 26, 2015, 11:15:36 AM
Good to know. By LH, other then their group, with a direct waiver (given to you) you can rebook on another airline
It could be a direct waiver would be permitted. DL allowed me to with a direct waiver. But the general one is not allowed
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on January 26, 2015, 06:22:34 PM
I like UA's policy right now that ticket can be used till end of ticket validity.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 26, 2015, 06:35:53 PM
When I cancel a itinerary and process a refund, the SSR & OSI msgs gets deleted, so why do the airline require an OSI when doing a refund?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on January 27, 2015, 05:58:44 PM
When I cancel a itinerary and process a refund, the SSR & OSI msgs gets deleted, so why do the airline require an OSI when doing a refund?

It's still in the history and always stays in the airlines record. The airline record is a lot more complex and has a lot more information readily accessible than the agents side.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 04, 2015, 04:34:40 PM
I'm just discovering this thread now.

I am not a TA, someone I know is, I am a mileage agent, but mess around on Sabre in my spare time, my Sabre PCC is not US so fares aren't ever good, and this agency only issues through a consolidator. I've gained some new knowledge reading through this thread, but I'll probably come back with questions from time to time...

One interesting thing to point out being in the mileage business, all AA PNRs (issued by AA only) can be viewed in Sabre, just enter *ABCDEF and you'll see it, but try enter anything more than *I, *A, *H, 4G*x (you won't be able to actually assign a seat) and you'll get the error: DISPLAYING PNR YOU DO NOT OWN-IGNORE OR ENTER ¤AAL/CLM TO CLAIM, I tried entering  ¤AAL/CLM (only on my own AA mileage reservation) but I get this response: THIS PNR IS INELIGIBLE TO BE CLAIMED - PLEASE IGNORE. It's very handy especially for  finding out operating airline relocs.

One thing that I'm not comprehending is married segments, I had an issue a while ago where searching for a 2 segment flight showed U0 but searching the 2 flights separately showed U9. I tried selling the first flight then searching the second but it now showed U0, I tried long selling it, but came back UC, in the end I long sold both seats on the same line using the § in the middle and I got SS on both, and HK after ending, (and WP gave me the price I was looking for, just in the foreign currency of my PCC) but I was told by another agent I know with Sabre that he wouldn't issue it because he'd land himself an ADM (I couldn't issue it myself because as I said above my agency uses a consolidator and charges a fee above (forget about commission!) the foreign fare, and it wouldn't be worth it. What's wrong with what I did and how would the airline find out? (this other agent suggested I call the airline directly and tell them I need the ticket issued and my TA is not answering his phone...)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 04, 2015, 04:36:57 PM
Am I the only Aviation/Travel Nerd that asks the airport reps if I can a look at their reservation system and start chatting how it is similar or different to our GDS's? And then pull out my laptop and show them Sabre and Amadeus? 8)
No :), I did it a few months ago.
I was in SFO flying to JFK on UA I seat (issued by LH (only 17,000 miles!), wanted to change to earlier flight (I knew there was I on the earlier flight, just didn't want to call LH to reissue), she muttered under her breath something about she doesn't know this booking class, I asked her if she worked for UA or CO pre-merger, she said UA, and therefore no idea what I class is. I asked to see her screen saying I use Sabre and we were talking about it...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: smaxber on February 04, 2015, 10:16:06 PM
Any of these free?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 05, 2015, 03:29:21 AM
Any of these free?
You can ask a TA for a terminal, but the actual systems aren't free
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on February 05, 2015, 08:37:39 AM
Is anyone here familiar with a BSP system?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 05, 2015, 08:40:38 AM
Is anyone here familiar with a BSP system?
ARC ok?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: MosheP on February 05, 2015, 08:43:19 AM
ARC ok?
Perhaps,  I would like assistance reviewing a document.  Can you PM me contact info?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 05, 2015, 08:43:49 AM
Perhaps,  I would like assistance reviewing a document.  Can you PM me contact info?
Pm me pls
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 05, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
Does anyone have any experience creating Elal mileage PNRs in Sabre (or even amadeus)?

I heard from a TA in Israel that there's a system in place with TA's and Elal for Matmid redemptions, he told me he makes PNR's, stores the taxes and YQ, and I don't remember what he said about issuing it. In Sabre, I'm able to see, sell and waitlist P X & E seats, question is what to do from there. Do I just call LY and give them the LY PNR and let them do the rest? or can I do more on my own?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 05, 2015, 12:20:08 PM
Does anyone have any experience creating Elal mileage PNRs in Sabre (or even amadeus)?

I heard from a TA in Israel that there's a system in place with TA's and Elal for Matmid redemptions, he told me he makes PNR's, stores the taxes and YQ, and I don't remember what he said about issuing it. In Sabre, I'm able to see, sell and waitlist P X & E seats, question is what to do from there. Do I just call LY and give them the LY PNR and let them do the rest? or can I do more on my own?
2nd
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 08, 2015, 09:51:40 AM
When I have a Z class with UA RT which the return flight was canceled, does it make sense that if I wanna use the money left on the ticket for economy I can only use it for a B class and up? Only B class prices for some reason. Anything lower does not price.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 08, 2015, 09:58:41 AM
When I have a Z class with UA RT which the return flight was canceled, does it make sense that if I wanna use the money left on the ticket for economy I can only use it for a B class and up? Only B class prices for some reason. Anything lower does not price.
Yes. Very often only full fare eco will price with biz
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 08, 2015, 10:00:11 AM
Yes. Very often only full fare eco will price with biz
Thanks. Any solution? Calling up?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 08, 2015, 10:01:47 AM
Thanks. Any solution? Calling up?
If there is no valid fare, the best they can do for you is give you a voucher for the remainder then you'll have to book a new ticket with the remainder
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on February 08, 2015, 10:05:00 AM
I'm just discovering this thread now.

I am not a TA, someone I know is, I am a mileage agent, but mess around on Sabre in my spare time, my Sabre PCC is not US so fares aren't ever good, and this agency only issues through a consolidator. I've gained some new knowledge reading through this thread, but I'll probably come back with questions from time to time...

One interesting thing to point out being in the mileage business, all AA PNRs (issued by AA only) can be viewed in Sabre, just enter *ABCDEF and you'll see it, but try enter anything more than *I, *A, *H, 4G*x (you won't be able to actually assign a seat) and you'll get the error: DISPLAYING PNR YOU DO NOT OWN-IGNORE OR ENTER ¤AAL/CLM TO CLAIM, I tried entering  ¤AAL/CLM (only on my own AA mileage reservation) but I get this response: THIS PNR IS INELIGIBLE TO BE CLAIMED - PLEASE IGNORE. It's very handy especially for  finding out operating airline relocs.

One thing that I'm not comprehending is married segments, I had an issue a while ago where searching for a 2 segment flight showed U0 but searching the 2 flights separately showed U9. I tried selling the first flight then searching the second but it now showed U0, I tried long selling it, but came back UC, in the end I long sold both seats on the same line using the § in the middle and I got SS on both, and HK after ending, (and WP gave me the price I was looking for, just in the foreign currency of my PCC) but I was told by another agent I know with Sabre that he wouldn't issue it because he'd land himself an ADM (I couldn't issue it myself because as I said above my agency uses a consolidator and charges a fee above (forget about commission!) the foreign fare, and it wouldn't be worth it. What's wrong with what I did and how would the airline find out? (this other agent suggested I call the airline directly and tell them I need the ticket issued and my TA is not answering his phone...)

In this industry married segments are one of the most frequently discussed topics in the airline and agency area. Every airline has their own rules. It's best to understand them before you play around with that. The airlines have robots that go through PNR's and have secondary auditing checks as well. There are even checks done when a passenger has his passport swiped for check in at the airport.

Airlines know. Weather they choose to do something is a different story.

In my humble opinion it is best to be ethical and follow the rules that you agreed to.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 08, 2015, 10:13:09 AM
Not that I disagree, but I never had pax being questioned in the airport. The only time they suspended a PNR IME was when a UA record was claimed..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 08, 2015, 10:25:34 AM
In this industry married segments are one of the most frequently discussed topics in the airline and agency area. Every airline has their own rules. It's best to understand them before you play around with that. The airlines have robots that go through PNR's and have secondary auditing checks as well. There are even checks done when a passenger has his passport swiped for check in at the airport.

Airlines know. Weather they choose to do something is a different story.

In my humble opinion it is best to be ethical and follow the rules that you agreed to.
So nu, what's AF's policy? ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 08, 2015, 11:43:55 AM
AF is BAD. DELTA IS TRULY THE BEST.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 16, 2015, 03:10:52 PM
Frontier Airlines to Voluntarily Delete from ARC
Quote
Frontier Airlines to Voluntarily Delete from ARC
Frontier Airlines (F9/422) will voluntarily delete from ARC effective March 7, 2015 (PED 03/08/15). Please submit any outstanding F9/422 transactions in your IAR report prior to March 7, 2015. After March 7, 2015, refunds should be submitted directly to Frontier for processing.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on February 16, 2015, 04:00:07 PM
Frontier Airlines to Voluntarily Delete from ARC

I think I have only booked 1 F9 booking.  :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 16, 2015, 04:44:16 PM
how do i check (in sabre) if airlines have interline agreements?

e.g. B6 JFK-LAX and VA LAX-SYD. If i put them in same PNR (must be separate tickets, no fares found for one ticket) will bags be checked all the way through?

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 16, 2015, 05:15:14 PM
how do i check (in sabre) if airlines have interline agreements?

e.g. B6 JFK-LAX and VA LAX-SYD. If i put them in same PNR (must be separate tickets, no fares found for one ticket) will bags be checked all the way through?


Has nothing to do with PNR. Pax must advise CIA, maybe send an SSR as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on February 16, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
I don't know how to in Sabre but in Amadeus you can check. 

99% of the time the bags can be thru checked. The only carriers that can not are the ones that don't belong to IATA such as the budget carriers. Some airlines also restrict thru check in some instances.  The main thing for the customer to do is to have a booking to show the check in agent so he or she can add the itinerary. No ticket number is required.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 16, 2015, 08:47:55 PM
Has nothing to do with PNR. Pax must advise CIA, maybe send an SSR as well

explain me how to do this SSR, which airline am i sending it? both?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 16, 2015, 08:51:57 PM
Also, when making the PNR with a VA BNE-LAX and a B6 LAX-JFK (definitely over the MCT) i got the following message when trying to end: "CONNX SEG 02 AT LAX NOT ALLOWED" I just ended again and it ended successfully.

I could always make a separate PNR, but I want the pax not to have to explain and show the B6 ticket to the CIA, so I want it in one PNR.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on February 16, 2015, 09:27:15 PM
SSR is not needed for this. Passenger needs to inform the check in agent.

Sometimes you can not have all flights in one PNR. Even if you are able to book everything in one PNR on your side doesn't mean that it will all show up in the airlines check in system.

It's really not a big deal. This happens all the time that passengers have separate tickets.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 16, 2015, 09:39:28 PM
SSR is not needed for this. Passenger needs to inform the check in agent.

Sometimes you can not have all flights in one PNR. Even if you are able to book everything in one PNR on your side doesn't mean that it will all show up in the airlines check in system.

It's really not a big deal. This happens all the time that passengers have separate tickets.

IME every operating airline sees the immediate segments preceding and following their own in their systems
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on February 16, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
IME every operating airline sees the immediate segments preceding and following their own in their systems.



What you book in Sabre under one PNR does not necessarily show up in the Airlines Check In System. These systems don't communicate very well. Itineraries need to be amended frequently.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 16, 2015, 11:46:57 PM
What you book in Sabre under one PNR does not necessarily show up in the Airlines Check In System. These systems don't communicate very well. Itineraries need to be amended frequently.

When viewing the VA PNR on virtuallythere.com, it shows the B6 segment. I can't view the B6 PNR on virtuallythere.com, they don't allow it (needless to say the Sabre PNR shows all as well).

Whenever I have made a single reservation on multiple carriers that use different CRSs, the immediate segments preceding and succeeding each airlines segments, also show up in their system (but you can't do anything like selecting seats, ordering special meals etc.) Sometimes, all the segments across all airlines show up on a PNR even though they use different CRSs. Turkish will often show preceding/succeeding flights, but the dep and arr times will show as 00:00, but the flight number and date will be there. At any rate, when this customer checks in with VA, they will likely see that this flight connects on to the B6 flight and may be able to check-in all the way. There's a better chance of them checking through the bags if they see the B6 flight in their system, rather than the pax having to show a separate B6 PNR.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 17, 2015, 12:03:41 AM
When viewing the VA PNR on virtuallythere.com, it shows the B6 segment. I can't view the B6 PNR on virtuallythere.com, they don't allow it (needless to say the Sabre PNR shows all as well).

Whenever I have made a single reservation on multiple carriers that use different CRSs, the immediate segments preceding and succeeding each airlines segments, also show up in their system (but you can't do anything like selecting seats, ordering special meals etc.) Sometimes, all the segments across all airlines show up on a PNR even though they use different CRSs. Turkish will often show preceding/succeeding flights, but the dep and arr times will show as 00:00, but the flight number and date will be there. At any rate, when this customer checks in with VA, they will likely see that this flight connects on to the B6 flight and may be able to check-in all the way. There's a better chance of them checking through the bags if they see the B6 flight in their system, rather than the pax having to show a separate B6 PNR.
B6 uses Sabre, so they should be able to see it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 17, 2015, 12:24:08 AM
B6 uses Sabre, so they should be able to see it

Yes, I'm aware (I mentioned in my previous post that the B6 blocks their PNRs from being viewed on virtuallythere.com, If they weren't Sabre then for sure you wouldn't be able to use VT.com)

Interestingly, I have noticed that if I make a single PNR with segments from multiple airlines that use Amadeus as their CRS, there'll be one Amadeus reloc for all of them, but not so with Sabre, as you see in my case, VA and B6 both use Sabre, yet my PNR has 3 relocs (only AA will share the Sabre reloc). Maybe that could result in one airline not seeing the other!?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 17, 2015, 08:14:23 AM
Yes, I'm aware (I mentioned in my previous post that the B6 blocks their PNRs from being viewed on virtuallythere.com, If they weren't Sabre then for sure you wouldn't be able to use VT.com)

Interestingly, I have noticed that if I make a single PNR with segments from multiple airlines that use Amadeus as their CRS, there'll be one Amadeus reloc for all of them, but not so with Sabre, as you see in my case, VA and B6 both use Sabre, yet my PNR has 3 relocs (only AA will share the Sabre reloc). Maybe that could result in one airline not seeing the other!?
That's because they don't actually use Sabre, but a system "powered by Sabre".

FYI it seems that you are booking him with an illegal connection, and VA has the right to deny boarding to the passenger, even though it's highly unlikely that they will
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 17, 2015, 09:53:25 AM
That's because they don't actually use Sabre, but a system "powered by Sabre".

FYI it seems that you are booking him with an illegal connection, and VA has the right to deny boarding to the passenger, even though it's highly unlikely that they will

when you say illegal connection, is that despite the fact that it's over LAX's MCT?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 17, 2015, 10:06:56 AM
when you say illegal connection, is that despite the fact that it's over LAX's MCT?
I don't think the error you got was due to MCT, as it usually will state that as the error and what the MCT is. Why it's illegal I'm not sure, however your GDS seems to believe it isn't legal. Maybe try calling support.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 17, 2015, 10:13:47 AM
Technically, what I'm doing is almost pointless, because LAX is the first port of entry into the US and all bags must be claimed and cleared through customs and re-checked, but it would still be easier if the bag was already tagged and then it could (maybe) be re-checked right after clearing customs in VA's terminal and not have to be schlepped over the B6's terminal. At any rate, there's enough time in the connection to schlep the bags over to B6's terminal and check in with them, (provided there aren't insanely long lines by immigration and customs). This could be done as 2 separate tickets, without VA tagging the bags for B6, why would there be an issue if they are in the same PNR?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 17, 2015, 10:15:23 AM
Technically, what I'm doing is almost pointless, because LAX is the first port of entry into the US and all bags must be claimed and cleared through customs and re-checked, but it would still be easier if the bag was already tagged and then it could (maybe) be re-checked right after clearing customs in VA's terminal and not have to be schlepped over the B6's terminal. At any rate, there's enough time in the connection to schlep the bags over to B6's terminal and check in with them, (provided there aren't insanely long lines by immigration and customs). This could be done as 2 separate tickets, without VA tagging the bags for B6, why would there be an issue if they are in the same PNR?
Because if VA sees the B6 they have the right to deny boarding. That's the rules.

Just to verify, MCT is 120, correct?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 17, 2015, 10:20:14 AM
Because if VA sees the B6 they have the right to deny boarding. That's the rules.

Just to verify, MCT is 120, correct?

MCT is 120, yes. When I search KVS Tool's MCT checker for LAX VA-B6...

[KVS Tool 7.7.4 - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: LAX/VA-B6] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
                                               DD  DI  ID  II   
STANDARD:         LAX                          070 090 120 120 

EXCEPTIONS:                                                     
A/L                                                             

-ALL-                                          SUP SUP SUP SUP 
B6                                                             

VA                                             --- --- 120 120 
-ALL-                                                           
                                             
---------------------------------------------------------------

[DD]    Domestic To Domestic      [DEP]   Departure Airport   
[DI]    Domestic To Intl          [ARR]   Arrival Airport     
[ID]    Intl To Domestic          [A/L]   Airline             
[II]    Intl To Intl              [TR]    Terminal             
[EQP W] Wide-Body Aircraft        [EFF]   Effective Date       
[EQP N] Narrow-Body Aircraft      [SUP]   Suppressed/Prohibited
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 17, 2015, 10:26:35 AM
MCT is 120, yes. When I search KVS Tool's MCT checker for LAX VA-B6...

[KVS Tool 7.7.4 - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: LAX/VA-B6] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
                                               DD  DI  ID  II   
STANDARD:         LAX                          070 090 120 120 

EXCEPTIONS:                                                     
A/L                                                             

-ALL-                                          SUP SUP SUP SUP 
B6                                                             

VA                                             --- --- 120 120 
-ALL-                                                           
                                             
---------------------------------------------------------------

[DD]    Domestic To Domestic      [DEP]   Departure Airport   
[DI]    Domestic To Intl          [ARR]   Arrival Airport     
[ID]    Intl To Domestic          [A/L]   Airline             
[II]    Intl To Intl              [TR]    Terminal             
[EQP W] Wide-Body Aircraft        [EFF]   Effective Date       
[EQP N] Narrow-Body Aircraft      [SUP]   Suppressed/Prohibited
Actually it says by B6     [SUP ]   Suppressed/Prohibited

Could be that's the issue.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on February 17, 2015, 10:31:54 AM
When viewing the VA PNR on virtuallythere.com, it shows the B6 segment. I can't view the B6 PNR on virtuallythere.com, they don't allow it (needless to say the Sabre PNR shows all as well).

Whenever I have made a single reservation on multiple carriers that use different CRSs, the immediate segments preceding and succeeding each airlines segments, also show up in their system (but you can't do anything like selecting seats, ordering special meals etc.) Sometimes, all the segments across all airlines show up on a PNR even though they use different CRSs. Turkish will often show preceding/succeeding flights, but the dep and arr times will show as 00:00, but the flight number and date will be there. At any rate, when this customer checks in with VA, they will likely see that this flight connects on to the B6 flight and may be able to check-in all the way. There's a better chance of them checking through the bags if they see the B6 flight in their system, rather than the pax having to show a separate B6 PNR.

What you are looking at is completely different than the Check in systems used by the airlines. Check in systems are not a GDS. They may be created by one of the major GDS providers but they are not the same. There are several programs that normally are used for the check in process and your average check in agent does not have access to them all.

Reservations done properly by agencies are great. If not done properly, they show up as a mess, including OTA's
 (Even when all looks good on your end) Especially when there is an exchange made. ;)

What the check in system shows is completely different than what the GDS shows. This happens so many times even when reservations are made spot on.

These systems don't all have the best relationship and all talk in their own language.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 17, 2015, 02:42:51 PM
Actually it says by B6     [SUP ]   Suppressed/Prohibited

Could be that's the issue.

that was my question...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: KVS on February 17, 2015, 06:22:59 PM
Also, when making the PNR with a VA BNE-LAX and a B6 LAX-JFK (definitely over the MCT) i got the following message when trying to end: "CONNX SEG 02 AT LAX NOT ALLOWED" I just ended again and it ended successfully.

I don't think the error you got was due to MCT, as it usually will state that as the error and what the MCT is. Why it's illegal I'm not sure, however your GDS seems to believe it isn't legal. Maybe try calling support.

MCT is 120, yes. When I search KVS Tool's MCT checker for LAX VA-B6...

[KVS Tool 7.7.4 - Reference: Minimum Connection Time [MCT]: LAX/VA-B6] (http://www.KVSTool.com/)
Code: [Select]
                                               DD  DI  ID  II   
STANDARD:         LAX                          070 090 120 120 

EXCEPTIONS:                                                     
A/L                                                             

-ALL-                                          SUP SUP SUP SUP 
B6                                                             

VA                                             --- --- 120 120 
-ALL-                                                           
                                             
---------------------------------------------------------------

[DD]    Domestic To Domestic      [DEP]   Departure Airport   
[DI]    Domestic To Intl          [ARR]   Arrival Airport     
[ID]    Intl To Domestic          [A/L]   Airline             
[II]    Intl To Intl              [TR]    Terminal             
[EQP W] Wide-Body Aircraft        [EFF]   Effective Date       
[EQP N] Narrow-Body Aircraft      [SUP]   Suppressed/Prohibited

Actually it says by B6     [SUP ]   Suppressed/Prohibited

Could be that's the issue.

The connection is clearly prohibited (SUPpressed) and the system issued a warning to indicate that.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 17, 2015, 06:50:15 PM
The connection is clearly prohibited (SUPpressed) and the system issued a warning to indicate that.

what do you mean by prohibited, i could technically buy 2 separate tickets and fly like that?

either way I'm gonna have to issue 2 separate tickets since there is no ticket that will have both in one, i just want to keep the 2 tickets in one pnr!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 18, 2015, 03:54:03 AM
Why would such a connection be prohibited, anyway?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 18, 2015, 10:38:38 AM
I'm curious to know why any connection would ever be prohibited, I understand a MCT, make it longer if it's between airlines that don't have agreements
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: KVS on February 18, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
what do you mean by prohibited, i could technically buy 2 separate tickets and fly like that?

In that case, there would be no [actual] connection.

Why would such a connection be prohibited, anyway?

B6 MCTs only allow connections from its Interline Partners (and VA is not one of them).
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 18, 2015, 10:48:36 AM
If there's "no actual connection", what could possibly be the problem with having it on one PNR?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on February 23, 2015, 04:27:50 PM
Anyone on Amadeus using the e-university?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 23, 2015, 04:28:15 PM
Anyone on Amadeus using the e-university?
Yes
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 24, 2015, 04:19:22 PM
How to double relese a PNR on AMADEUS?

Example: ES NYC 1S xxxx Plus another suticode in the same entry

TIA
No need to make public your vendors....
Es/gxxxxxxxx-b,nycxxxxxxcc-b
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: 7-11 on February 24, 2015, 04:27:25 PM
No need to make public your vendors....
Es/gxxxxxxxx-b,nycxxxxxxcc-b
thanks for the info!!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 27, 2015, 04:39:32 PM
Do UA CSR get paid a commission when they book a ticket? And is yes, what will happen whe a TA created the reservation but the CSR is ticketing it?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 27, 2015, 04:41:06 PM
Do UA CSR get paid a commission when they book a ticket? And is yes, what will happen whe a TA created the reservation but the CSR is ticketing it?
You were offered a kick back?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: bhphotoman on March 02, 2015, 10:14:13 AM
Does any one know what the fare code for PS E+ usually is? In sabre
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 02, 2015, 10:59:41 AM
If I create a reservation with LY in X class for a flight tonight in Amadeus, when will it expire?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 02, 2015, 11:02:11 AM
If I create a reservation with LY in X class for a flight tonight in Amadeus, when will it expire?
At no-show
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 02, 2015, 11:05:37 AM
At no-show
What is the usual exp time? I made a ressy last night and this morning the seats were back in inventory.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 12:08:56 PM
Does any one know what the fare code for PS E+ usually is? In sabre
Off hand I think its S&Y
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: bhphotoman on March 02, 2015, 02:20:43 PM
It was P that is usually there lowest E+
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: bhphotoman on March 02, 2015, 02:21:05 PM
Curious does any airlines offer any comps to TA?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 02, 2015, 03:59:22 PM
Curious does any airlines offer any comps to TA?
Yes, you just have to show your IATA ID card
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 04:10:54 PM
Yes, you just have to show your IATA ID card
And you get practically nothing...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 02, 2015, 04:14:17 PM
And you get practically nothing...
Depends on airline. DL has some decent biz fares to some places
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 02, 2015, 04:14:47 PM
You were offered a kick back?
huh?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 02, 2015, 07:05:56 PM
With an IATAN or IATA card you can get what's called AD tickets. Those are usually 50% to 75% of the fare. It is not always available . The best way to get the tickets are to contact your sales rep from that airline. LOT quite often offers some really sweet fares to travel agents and they have pretty good availability as well.

Even for airlines that are not offering the discounts, contact a sales rep and ask what they can offer you. If they appreciate your business they will take care of you. 
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 07:06:43 PM
With an IATAN or IATA card you can get what's called AD tickets. Those are usually 50% to 75% of the fare. It is not always available . The best way to get the tickets are to contact your sales rep from that airline. LOT quite often offers some really sweet fares to travel agents and they have pretty good availability as well.

Even for airlines that are not offering the discounts, contact a sales rep and ask what they can offer you. If they appreciate your business they will take care of you.
Its 50/75% off the full fare...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 02, 2015, 07:22:16 PM
Its 50/75% off the full fare...

Lol. No. The Base. So don't go to London on a AD ticket. You will get $60 off. :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 07:24:48 PM
Lol. No. The Base. So don't go to London on a AD ticket. You will get $60 off. :)
The base of a full unrestricted fare
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 07:35:22 PM
The base of a full unrestricted fare

For example
Code: [Select]
FXX                                                                             
                                                                               
01 P1                                                                           
                                                                               
LAST TKT DTE 05MAR15 - SEE ADV PURCHASE                                         
------------------------------------------------------------                   
     AL FLGT  BK   DATE  TIME  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA   BG                   
 EWR                                                                           
 TLV UA    84 P    15JUN 1640  PHRFE                      2P                   
 EWR UA    85 P    22JUN 1215  PHRFE           21JUN      2P                   
 
USD  3501.36                                                                   


FXX/ZO-75P*AD75                                                                 
                                                                               
01 P1                                                                           
                                                                               
LAST TKT DTE 15JUN15 - DATE OF ORIGIN                                           
------------------------------------------------------------                   
     AL FLGT  BK   DATE  TIME  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA   BG                   
 EWR                                                                           
 TLV UA    84 J    15JUN 1640  JXR1/AD75                  2P                   
 EWR UA    85 J    22JUN 1215  JXR1/AD75                  2P                   
                                                   
USD  3343.36                                                                   


In addition, on AD ticket there is no mileage earnings or comp like for overbooked
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: bhphotoman on March 02, 2015, 07:38:03 PM
How do i get that do i just call the TA help desk at said airline or is there a specific sales rep i need to contact?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 02, 2015, 07:38:59 PM
How do i get that do i just call the TA help desk at said airline or is there a specific sales rep i need to contact?

All depends on the airline. Contact your sales rep.

BA has a dedicated website to book travel in.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 07:40:46 PM
How do i get that do i just call the TA help desk at said airline or is there a specific sales rep i need to contact?

Each airline (& route) are different. Some airlines offer those to anyone holding an IATAN Card, some provide on contract basis
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 02, 2015, 07:43:02 PM
Each airline (& route) are different. Some airlines offer those to anyone holding an IATAN Card, some provide on contract basis

Yup and they need to ticket the reservation as well.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 07:50:52 PM
Yup and they need to ticket the reservation as well.
Each airline has their rules. LH you do the booking on your own
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 02, 2015, 07:52:47 PM
Each airline has their rules. LH you do the booking on your own

LH let's you ticket and AD?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 07:53:43 PM
LH let's you ticket and AD?
No, but you do the booking. UA on the other hand, does the booking as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 02, 2015, 07:54:25 PM
No, but you do the booking. UA on the other hand, does the booking as well

Oh. You can do the booking on a lot of em but I don't know of any that let you ticket.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 02, 2015, 08:03:34 PM
TK offers AD on the YY FBC
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: bhphotoman on March 04, 2015, 04:39:07 PM
What the heck is up with DL today! seriously, they cancel flights i booked as a net rate and are refusing to re issue since it was a net fare booking! thoughts advise?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: SearchGuy on March 12, 2015, 05:02:21 PM
Anyone willing to look up a QF flight for me please PM me, TIA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2015, 05:03:47 PM
Anyone willing to look up a QF flight for me please PM me, TIA

Date & Flt number pls
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: SearchGuy on March 12, 2015, 05:26:45 PM
New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Wed, Jul 29
Qantas 18
   
Dep: 6:45 pm
   
Arr: 9:40 pm
   
5h 55m
   
Boeing 747
   
Economy (O)
   
[Dinner] [Movie] [In-seat Video Player]
   
Layover in LAX
      
1h 10m
   
Los Angeles (LAX) to Melbourne (MEL) — Wed, Jul 29
Qantas 94
   
Dep: 10:50 pm
   
Arr: 7:35 am
   
15h 45m
   
Airbus A380
   
Economy (O)
   
[Refreshments, Meal] [Movie] [In-seat Video Player]
      
Fri, Jul 31
   
Melbourne (MEL) to New York (JFK) — Mon, Aug 10
   
[Overnight flight]
   
Melbourne (MEL) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Mon, Aug 10
Qantas 93
   
Dep: 9:50 am
   
Arr: 7:10 am
   
14h 20m
   
Airbus A380
   
Economy (O)
   
[Lunch, Refreshments] [Movie] [In-seat Video Player]
   
Layover in LAX
      
1h 45m
   
Los Angeles (LAX) to New York (JFK) — Mon, Aug 10
Qantas 11
   
Dep: 8:55 am
   
Arr: 5:15 pm
   
5h 20m
   
Boeing 747
   
Economy (O)
   
[Breakfast]
Till when is this fare in affect
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2015, 05:35:01 PM
New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Wed, Jul 29
Qantas 18
   
Dep: 6:45 pm
   
Arr: 9:40 pm
   
5h 55m
   
Boeing 747
   
Economy (O)
   
[Dinner] [Movie] [In-seat Video Player]
   
Layover in LAX
      
1h 10m
   
Los Angeles (LAX) to Melbourne (MEL) — Wed, Jul 29
Qantas 94
   
Dep: 10:50 pm
   
Arr: 7:35 am
   
15h 45m
   
Airbus A380
   
Economy (O)
   
[Refreshments, Meal] [Movie] [In-seat Video Player]
      
Fri, Jul 31
   
Melbourne (MEL) to New York (JFK) — Mon, Aug 10
   
[Overnight flight]
   
Melbourne (MEL) to Los Angeles (LAX) — Mon, Aug 10
Qantas 93
   
Dep: 9:50 am
   
Arr: 7:10 am
   
14h 20m
   
Airbus A380
   
Economy (O)
   
[Lunch, Refreshments] [Movie] [In-seat Video Player]
   
Layover in LAX
      
1h 45m
   
Los Angeles (LAX) to New York (JFK) — Mon, Aug 10
Qantas 11
   
Dep: 8:55 am
   
Arr: 5:15 pm
   
5h 20m
   
Boeing 747
   
Economy (O)
   
[Breakfast]
Till when is this fare in affect

Dont see a fare to lookup
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2015, 05:35:45 PM
Code: [Select]
29JUL15*10AUG15/QF NYCMEL/NLX;PA/TPM 10405/MPM 12486                           
** ONEWORLD VISIT AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND PASS **                                 
            ** SEE INFO NOTE 0100 **                                           
LN FARE BASIS    OW   USD  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R               
01 OLXA                     560 O NRF S17SEP B31MAR@14@10  12M R
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: SearchGuy on March 12, 2015, 05:43:24 PM
Thanks, if I read correct this is in affect till end of March?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yo on March 12, 2015, 05:47:28 PM
Anyone know how to check in Sabre when Elal's Summer fares kick in.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2015, 05:50:52 PM
Anyone know how to check in Sabre when Elal's Summer fares kick in.
When they will load it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yo on March 12, 2015, 05:55:19 PM
They did load it.

Its $1073 June 14 and $1398 the 15th. So thats the answer. Was wondering if there was an easier way to check!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2015, 05:56:40 PM
They did load it.

Its $1073 June 14 and $1398 the 15th. So thats the answer. Was wondering if there was an easier way to check!
How do you check that you need an easier way?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 12, 2015, 06:47:45 PM
Any Sabre users know how to enter an OSI in such a way that TG check-in agents will see it, so that I can write any information that I need to communicate directly to the check-in staff?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2015, 06:48:43 PM
Any Sabre users know how to enter an OSI in such a way that TG check-in agents will see it, so that I can write any information that I need to communicate directly to the check-in staff?
They should be able to read an OSI
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 12, 2015, 07:13:08 PM
They should be able to read an OSI

I don't want them to just be "able" to read it, voluntarily; I want to make it obvious that it's targeted specifically at them, and not, say, a call center agent.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 12, 2015, 07:23:06 PM
I don't want them to just be "able" to read it, voluntarily; I want to make it obvious that it's targeted specifically at them, and not, say, a call center agent.
In Amadeus I would maybe try to queue over a msg if I know their PCCs, but can't say how to direct it to the check in, maybe our airline rep can chime in

A few weeks ago I had a pax whose bday was on the day he flew, I did an OSI to the airline "say happy bday" and they announced it midflight, don't know if it was because of the OSI or something else
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: KVS on March 13, 2015, 12:08:49 AM
Any Sabre users know how to enter an OSI in such a way that TG check-in agents will see it, so that I can write any information that I need to communicate directly to the check-in staff?

I don't want them to just be "able" to read it, voluntarily; I want to make it obvious that it's targeted specifically at them, and not, say, a call center agent.

Try 3CKIN1/TG FREE TEXT-1.1
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: JoeCha on March 13, 2015, 08:45:22 AM

A few weeks ago I had a pax whose bday was on the day he flew, I did an OSI to the airline "say happy bday" and they announced it midflight, don't know if it was because of the OSI or something else
Now I know why not to book on Orbitz.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yessory on March 13, 2015, 12:38:18 PM
They did load it.

Its $1073 June 14 and $1398 the 15th. So thats the answer. Was wondering if there was an easier way to check!

Just do a FQ (fare quote) and check "seasons".
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 14, 2015, 06:44:25 PM
Try 3CKIN1/TG FREE TEXT-1.1

Thanks.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 15, 2015, 01:15:56 PM
Anyone have a spread sheet of airline queues? I'm looking for LY seating queue, but interested in knowing the queues that exist
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 15, 2015, 01:18:12 PM
Anyone have a spread sheet of airline queues? I'm looking for LY seating queue, but interested in knowing the queues that exist
O have the LY queues but I don't have it at hand, will send it later
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 15, 2015, 01:18:51 PM
O have the LY queues but I don't have it at hand, will send it later
Thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on March 15, 2015, 01:44:50 PM
Thanks
This is the seating Q
QE/TLVLY059S/35
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 15, 2015, 01:45:46 PM
This is the seating Q
QE/TLVLY059S/35
This is a Amadeus, he needs Sabre
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 15, 2015, 01:46:40 PM
This is a Amadeus, he needs Sabre
:)
But mendy, thanks anyway
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 15, 2015, 01:49:10 PM
I have this, but I think its for elite members only
QP/QLY65/65
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on March 15, 2015, 01:52:22 PM
:)
But mendy, thanks anyway
I apologies
new to this forum
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 15, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
I apologies
new to this forum
No need to apologize, welcome
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 16, 2015, 08:19:27 PM
In regards to sending a message to the check in agents, enter a CKIN SSR. Most agents will take a look at the record when they see that service in the record as it is targeted at them.

The only way to force a message that pops up as a priority and stops the Check In process is to have the Station. Put in a comment.

CKIN and OTHS are the most useful way of getting information to check in agents. The OSI are not readily available.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 16, 2015, 09:16:24 PM
Im looking to have access to a GDS. What is the cheapest way? Pay $30 a month for a certificate?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 17, 2015, 02:50:22 AM
How do you do split payment in Sabre?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on March 17, 2015, 10:23:42 PM
How do you check that you need an easier way?

you do an FQ for a random date and then check the seasons
I did June 13:

  FOR TRAVEL ON/BEFORE 27MAR15                                 
     PERMITTED 10JUN14 THROUGH 14JUN14 OR 19AUG14 THROUGH       
     03OCT14 OR 09OCT14 THROUGH 23OCT14 ON THE FIRST           
     INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF           
     ORIGIN.                                                   
   FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 28MAR15                                 
     PERMITTED 03APR THROUGH 14JUN OR 19AUG THROUGH 22SEP       
     OR 27SEP THROUGH 10OCT ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL         
     SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN.                ‡

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yessory on March 18, 2015, 02:20:37 AM
you do an FQ for a random date and then check the seasons
I did June 13:

  FOR TRAVEL ON/BEFORE 27MAR15                                 
     PERMITTED 10JUN14 THROUGH 14JUN14 OR 19AUG14 THROUGH       
     03OCT14 OR 09OCT14 THROUGH 23OCT14 ON THE FIRST           
     INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF           
     ORIGIN.                                                   
   FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 28MAR15                                 
     PERMITTED 03APR THROUGH 14JUN OR 19AUG THROUGH 22SEP       
     OR 27SEP THROUGH 10OCT ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL         
     SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN.                ‡

Shafe, I think that was answered already above :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 19, 2015, 06:26:32 PM
LH strike ver 4...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 22, 2015, 05:21:44 PM
And here we go, Z class to TLV is more less not to be found :(

While I understand DL, they don't make money when only selling Z classes but its still sad...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 22, 2015, 05:23:20 PM
And here we go, Z class to TLV is more less not to be found :(

While I understand DL, they don't make money when only selling Z classes but its still sad...
FTR, the airline knows everything, nice when you get a memo showing you exactly which city you used to overbook
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 22, 2015, 05:24:46 PM
My question is, where were they until now? And will they reopen it again anytime soon?

Will have to stick with UA P class. For now....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 25, 2015, 10:57:40 PM
Does LY give waivers on Z classes for travel without a weekend?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on March 25, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
They can.... but not lower than Z
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 25, 2015, 11:07:24 PM
They can.... but not lower than Z
I heard that... But for Z they will always give me?

And whats the story with UA, AFAIK they don't have such a thing, am I missing something?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 25, 2015, 11:09:13 PM
I heard that... But for Z they will always give me?

And whats the story with UA, AFAIK they don't have such a thing, am I missing something?

LY Depends on your Rep. UA doesn't give waivers period
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on March 25, 2015, 11:20:57 PM
I heard that... But for Z they will always give me?

And whats the story with UA, AFAIK they don't have such a thing, am I missing something?
Of course depends on rep and more importantly on flight availability.    Dl is ez with waivers
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 25, 2015, 11:21:27 PM
LY Depends on your Rep. UA doesn't give waivers period
My question is, the guy I am using usually gets me waivers on Z class but will they do it for high season, say Lag B'omer? Im talking specifically about the flights on the 8th if that matters. There are quite a few Z classes left.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 25, 2015, 11:22:15 PM
Of course depends on rep and more importantly on flight availability.    Dl is ez with waivers
Yeah, DL I know but now with no Z classes we gotta look into something else. I don't issue my self, I use a few different offices.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 26, 2015, 01:33:00 AM
This is the seating Q
QE/TLVLY059S/35

This is a Amadeus, he needs Sabre

Shouldn't it be QP/QLY59/35, then?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on March 26, 2015, 07:19:24 AM
Shouldn't it be QP/QLY59/35, then?
That's what I use on Amadeus and I always get a quick response
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 29, 2015, 06:39:13 AM
http://www.aa.com/i18n/agencyPrograms/main.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=agency

Important information from American Airlines

Getting ready for upcoming steps in our integration

As part of our merger process, we will consolidate our reservations systems to the Sabre platform later this year. As we prepare for this next integration step, we've identified a way to help ensure your clients have a smooth travel journey.

For new reservations made for travel beginning October 1, 2015 on US Airways flights (US or US*), please validate on American Airlines 001 ticket stock rather than US Airways 037 ticket stock.

This will help make sure reservations are successfully migrated from the US Airways Shares reservation system when we complete the integration of our systems by the end of 2015. This request doesn't change the way you shop and book US Airways flights. Processing voluntary exchanges on the original validating carrier will also work the same as it does today.

Is your contract not under a single agreement?

Please continue to validate on US Airways 037 ticket stock if your contract or the corporate contract is not under a single American agreement. We are working toward consolidating all contracts.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 30, 2015, 09:03:05 AM
LY has a sale on J class $2999 for Lag B'omer any idea if UA/DL will match it today?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: aradisc on March 30, 2015, 10:16:33 PM
Can someone with Amadeus look up the contents of GGAIRQRSTPC and PM it to me? Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 30, 2015, 11:14:35 PM
LY has a sale on J class $2999 for Lag B'omer any idea if UA/DL will match it today?
Did DL J ever go lower then $3500 range?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 30, 2015, 11:16:25 PM
Did DL J ever go lower then $3500 range?
Was last year at this price basically thru out the year


ETA: its was LY at this process, and IIRC UA/DL matched it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 30, 2015, 11:17:07 PM
Was last year at this price basically thru out the year
For $3500 or $3000?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 30, 2015, 11:18:06 PM
For $3500 or $3000?
Sent my edited post, LY was at 2999 and IIRC DL/UA for sometime matched it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 30, 2015, 11:22:12 PM
Sent my edited post, LY was at 2999 and IIRC DL/UA for sometime matched it
Well, now ua is matching and delta is just toting there horn.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on March 31, 2015, 01:00:47 AM
Basically LY has control over the TLV market.....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on March 31, 2015, 12:46:48 PM
Anyone know how to view an FQ on Sabre that shows total price for each fare?
‡FL only shows taxes, without fuel
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on March 31, 2015, 09:26:41 PM
Quote
Virgin Australia would like to advise trade partners that effective 17 April 2015 we will no longer accept Virgin Australia flights to be plated on Hahn Air (HR) ticketing stock. The HR ticketing facility will be disabled for the following markets:

Australia
Canada
France
Germany
Ireland
Netherlands
New Zealand
Singapore
Switzerland
United Kingdom
United States

Agents are advised to ticket any existing bookings on HR 169 ticket stock by 23:59 (AEST) Thursday 16 April 2015.

Removal of this ticketing facility will be reflected in the Global Distribution System (GDS) 17 April 2015.

Does anyone know why this is?

HR ticketing stock usually has no commission but can be a nice value for customers as it protects the passenger with insurance.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 31, 2015, 09:36:40 PM
Can someone with Amadeus look up the contents of GGAIRQRSTPC and PM it to me? Thanks!  ;D


Code: [Select]
DISPLAY IS RESTRICTED
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: aradisc on April 02, 2015, 01:53:06 PM

Code: [Select]
DISPLAY IS RESTRICTED

Huh. Thanks for checking. I found a fare rule that says to check that out in Amadeus for details but I guess it's for the airline's agents only or something.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 03, 2015, 02:11:29 PM
No more name change on LY?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 04, 2015, 03:08:11 PM
No more name change on LY?
When did they ever allow?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 05, 2015, 08:51:44 PM
When did they ever allow?
Before ticketing you were able
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 06, 2015, 03:38:13 AM
Before ticketing you were able
They never allowed me to. At best they would have me LL in a different PNR and they would KL it for me
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on April 07, 2015, 01:39:33 PM
Before ticketing I was always able to change the name.

CHFF:

You are no longer able to change name prior to ticketing?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 07, 2015, 01:45:28 PM
Before ticketing I was always able to change the name.

CHFF:

You are no longer able to change name prior to ticketing?
Try to in Amadeus and got a msg that the airline doesn't allow it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 07, 2015, 02:38:06 PM
Before ticketing I was always able to change the name.

CHFF:

You are no longer able to change name prior to ticketing?
Able to and allowed to are 2 different things. Almost all airlines you are able to, besides SN and some of the lower airlines in Russia, EU,and Asia
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 07, 2015, 02:40:24 PM
Able to and allowed to are 2 different things. Almost all airlines you are able to, besides SN and some of the lower airlines in Russia, EU,and Asia
They hard coded
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 12, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
When does the $2999 price in business class to TLV  for June expire?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 12, 2015, 02:24:26 PM
When does the $2999 price in business class to TLV  for June expire?
16APR
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 12, 2015, 02:27:03 PM
16APR
Thanks. Where can I check it up? Im not a GDS tech at all but the TA I use told me this morning that it does not have an exp date as of this morning. It was Amadeus if that matters.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 12, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
Sabre:
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FQNYCTLV1JUN15-LY«                                             
NYC-TLV       CXR-LY       MON 01JUN15                     USD 
THE FOLLOWING CARRIERS ALSO PUBLISH FARES NYC-TLV:             
9W AA AB AC AF AI AY AZ BA BD CO CX DL ET IB IZ J2 KE KL LA LH 
LO LX MA MS MU NW NZ OA OK OS PS QR RJ SK SN SQ SU TK TN TP UA 
UN US UX VS VV YY                                               
ADDITIONAL CARRIERS PARTICIPATE IN YY FARES                     
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//     
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED     
LY     NYCTLV.AT       01JUN15          MPM  6819               
    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
...
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13   JSPMUS         J R  2067.00        T16AP  -   SU/ 3M AT01

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FQNYCTLV1JUN15-UA«                                             
NYC-TLV       CXR-UA       MON 01JUN15                     USD 
THE FOLLOWING CARRIERS ALSO PUBLISH FARES NYC-TLV:             
9W AA AB AC AF AI AY AZ BA BD CO CX DL ET IB IZ J2 KE KL LA LH 
LO LX LY MA MS MU NW NZ OA OK OS PS QR RJ SK SN SQ SU TK TN TP 
UN US UX VS VV YY                                               
ADDITIONAL CARRIERS PARTICIPATE IN YY FARES                     
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//     
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED     
UA     NYCTLV.AT       01JUN15          MPM  6819               
    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
...
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17   PNC87S         P‡R  2067.00        T16AP  1/3 SU/ 3M AT01

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 13, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
The invoice part?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Mordy788 on April 13, 2015, 10:00:51 PM
The invoice part?

Yes the passenger receipt. I fixed it though. I was doing TTM/EMLA when I was supposed to do EMR/EPR-EMLA as it was issued already.

Thanks.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on April 14, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
How do you book Chauffeurs in Sabre for EK EY and QF?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 14, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
AP on Sky/Star to TLV  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :( :-[
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yessory on April 14, 2015, 08:35:47 PM
AP on Sky/Star to TLV  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :( :-[
I believe Delta pulled that today....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 14, 2015, 08:37:02 PM
I believe Delta pulled that today....

Still there, and DL blames UA and UA blames DL
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on April 14, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
This happened already almost a week ago.  Delta did price today for a couple of hours.  UA adopted 14 days advance, and I heard delta plans to end with 7 day
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yessory on April 14, 2015, 08:45:59 PM
Still there, and DL blames UA and UA blames DL

For a some period today, now I see they put it back. Delta started it BTW. I predict that it will be removed unless ELAL matches...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 14, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
Still there, and DL blames UA and UA blames DL
What is Shayech to "blame"?

And when you're talking about AP, what class do you need once you hit the 7/14 day mark?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on April 16, 2015, 01:41:55 AM
I believe Delta pulled that today....
Delta pulled again the AP requirement.
Go book your records
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yessory on April 16, 2015, 02:41:10 PM
Delta pulled again the AP requirement.
Go book your records
Sure enough...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 20, 2015, 12:24:53 PM
RGML is dead.
Long live RGML
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on April 20, 2015, 01:44:42 PM
RGML is dead.

ורמינהו...

Long live RGML

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 20, 2015, 05:03:57 PM
UA will remove the AP today, hopefully
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on April 20, 2015, 08:56:16 PM
Re Chauffeur in Sabre I found the 0SUR/1CDA1/DXB/SI- command, but the rest is free text, do I just enter the phone number, address and pickup/drop off time?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on April 23, 2015, 01:26:33 PM
Delta canceling lately a lot
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 23, 2015, 01:57:24 PM
Delta canceling lately a lot
Yeah.. and im afraid that the 24 hour policy is going to be removed soon.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on April 23, 2015, 02:00:59 PM
Yeah.. and im afraid that the 24 hour policy is going to be removed soon.
vus vet zein mit parnassah? :-X
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 23, 2015, 02:02:00 PM
vus vet zein mit parnassah?
Mvet bakavenen a tzveiten
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 23, 2015, 04:26:04 PM
Mvet bakavenen a tzveiten
Nisht Gring. Sfilt Zich Beser Azoiy. Es iz Afileh Nisht Tues Akum.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on May 11, 2015, 12:19:22 PM
The same way AA PNR's can be viewed on any TA's Sabre system, can anyone using Amadeus access any Amadeus airline's PNR's?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 11, 2015, 12:21:10 PM
The same way AA PNR's can be viewed on any TA's Sabre system, can anyone using Amadeus access any Amadeus airline's PNR's?

no
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on May 14, 2015, 12:44:53 PM
UA getting tough
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 14, 2015, 07:58:35 PM
UA getting tough
You were hit?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: WhyAich on May 14, 2015, 09:18:01 PM
You were hit?

People clear UA and issue it still?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 14, 2015, 09:23:55 PM
People clear UA and issue it still?
Sure. BTW they got a good robot for Y but not J. At least in J I know TAs who issue in Groisen. And I also know a TA who lost availability just recently....... (you guys know him  ;) ) But no Knas.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 15, 2015, 12:14:27 AM
Sure. BTW they got a good robot for Y but not J. At least in J I know TAs who issue in Groisen. And I also know a TA who lost availability just recently....... (you guys know him  ;) ) But no Knas.
Knas big time
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 15, 2015, 12:33:51 AM
Knas big time
So I guess we are talking about 2 different TAs...... The memo didn't come from your office.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 15, 2015, 12:35:01 AM
So I guess we are talking about 2 different TAs...... The memo didn't come from your office.
I'm still processing it...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 15, 2015, 12:39:00 AM
I'm still processing it...
Oiy.... Perhaps I don't know everything.

While we are on topic, when going through DL loads to TLV there are very little Z classes, its not rear to see a flight with several J/C/D classes. Boy did they do a good move with pulling Out the Z class. Now they make the money...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 15, 2015, 03:21:18 AM
Oiy.... Perhaps I don't know everything.

While we are on topic, when going through DL loads to TLV there are very little Z classes, its not rear to see a flight with several J/C/D classes. Boy did they do a good move with pulling Out the Z class. Now they make the money...

Delta has a reputation for deliberately pulling lower fare classes as a way of manipulating the market, without having to admit that that's what they're doing. For example, with award tickets - someone pointed out that Delta has the chutzpah to brag that they don't charge an "expedite fee" when booking within 21 days of departure; yet on most (all?) domestic routes, their lowest tier is "mysteriously" unavailable EXACTLY 21 days before travel. So that at the end of the day, you don't have to pay a $75 fee, but you have to pay more miles instead.

If you charge your customers a $75 fee, people complain that you're greedy. But if your low-tier inventory is "coincidentally" depleted just when it's needed, no one can point a finger... convenient, eh?

Same here. Don't let them BS you that "some seats were already sold, that's why Z class is unavailable". It could be a completely empty flight, and yet they'll pull the lower classes if they feel like it.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on May 15, 2015, 10:03:15 AM
You were hit?
I wouldn't call that HIT
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on June 04, 2015, 08:31:53 AM
Sabre news:
Important: 1234 EPRs to be automatically deleted by June 22
The idea of using employee profile records (EPRs) to gain unauthorized access into systems isn't new. Unfortunately, this tactic is on the rise.

To help protect customer information and create a more secure environment, Sabre will begin deleting the 1234 EPR accounts beginning on or about June 22. These EPRs, assigned for temporary use only, are easily guessed and pose a fraud risk to travel agencies.

Action required:
•If you have or are using a 1234 EPR, create a new EPR. Then delete the 1234 EPR.
•Do not create new 1234 EPRs.

Secure password management requires diligence in using a password that's difficult to guess, never sharing your password, never writing it down where others can find it, and promptly changing or re-creating your password if you suspect someone else knows it.

Make sure you know if someone else is trying to change your login information: use the Password Management Tool (PMT) to get notifications of password changes.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 04, 2015, 08:59:47 AM
Sabre news:
Important: 1234 EPRs to be automatically deleted by June 22
The idea of using employee profile records (EPRs) to gain unauthorized access into systems isn't new. Unfortunately, this tactic is on the rise.

To help protect customer information and create a more secure environment, Sabre will begin deleting the 1234 EPR accounts beginning on or about June 22. These EPRs, assigned for temporary use only, are easily guessed and pose a fraud risk to travel agencies.

Action required:
•If you have or are using a 1234 EPR, create a new EPR. Then delete the 1234 EPR.
•Do not create new 1234 EPRs.

Secure password management requires diligence in using a password that's difficult to guess, never sharing your password, never writing it down where others can find it, and promptly changing or re-creating your password if you suspect someone else knows it.

Make sure you know if someone else is trying to change your login information: use the Password Management Tool (PMT) to get notifications of password changes.
So the "NU" will be eliminated? Good for me
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on June 04, 2015, 09:01:54 AM
So the "NU" will be eliminated? Good for me
I changed from NU a long time ago, but this is a PITA. Unfortunately switching NU does nothing for system security
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 04, 2015, 09:03:01 AM
I changed from NU a long time ago, but this is a PITA. Unfortunately switching NU does nothing for system security
NU does for me....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on June 04, 2015, 09:15:28 AM
NU does for me....
Nu nu
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 04, 2015, 09:26:21 AM
Next pert'za....

Dear Travel Partners,
 
We would like to advise you of changes regarding Matmid Award bookings effective June 10, 2015.
 
Any bonus ticket that requires awards issued from more than one Matmid account will need separate PNRs for each account used.
 
Bonus tickets and paying tickets cannot be combined in one PNR.
 
If you have any questions regarding EL AL Matmid bonus reservations. Please contact your sales representative.
 
Thank You,
EL AL North America Team
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on June 04, 2015, 09:39:32 AM
Next pert'za....

Dear Travel Partners,
 
We would like to advise you of changes regarding Matmid Award bookings effective June 10, 2015.
 
Any bonus ticket that requires awards issued from more than one Matmid account will need separate PNRs for each account used.
 
Bonus tickets and paying tickets cannot be combined in one PNR.
 
If you have any questions regarding EL AL Matmid bonus reservations. Please contact your sales representative.
 
Thank You,
EL AL North America Team
They probably do their accounting by pen and paper. The department was getting overworked.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on June 18, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
A customer used an upgrade and the original segment now shows HX and there's a new segment in the upgrade booking code with HK, can/should I delete the HX segment? is there any reason not to?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 18, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
A customer used an upgrade and the original segment now shows HX and there's a new segment in the upgrade booking code with HK, can/should I delete the HX segment? is there any reason not to?
Which Airline, and which GDS?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on June 18, 2015, 08:15:49 PM
UA, Sabre
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 18, 2015, 08:16:30 PM
UA, Sabre
My Question was just out of curiosity....
You can update the PNR
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on June 18, 2015, 08:20:02 PM
A customer used an upgrade and the original segment now shows HX and there's a new segment in the upgrade booking code with HK, can/should I delete the HX segment? is there any reason not to?
You must take out HX segments
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 18, 2015, 08:20:49 PM
You must take out HX segments
Why the must?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on June 18, 2015, 08:21:40 PM
Why the must?
You can get ADMs
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 18, 2015, 08:22:09 PM
You can get ADMs
Never got from UA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on June 18, 2015, 08:27:23 PM
You must take out HX segments
When you say must, why is it my responsibility? the PAX might never have told me he used a systemwide to upgrade, I have no reason to go back into his booking and notice the HX! I definitely didn't cause the HX!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on June 19, 2015, 10:09:36 AM
When you say must, why is it my responsibility? the PAX might never have told me he used a systemwide to upgrade, I have no reason to go back into his booking and notice the HX! I definitely didn't cause the HX!
You should know that by now "it's always the TA's fault" ...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on June 19, 2015, 10:12:09 AM
Just wanted to hear what anyone here thinks about LH groups 16 EUR charge for using a GDS effective Sep 1
Quote
Lufthansa redirects commercial strategy

02.06.15
-   Airlines differentiate booking channels -   Modular fare packages and new customized offers -   A per ticket earnings increase to be reinforced by direct booking methods -   Development of a new booking channels to form direct link with sales partners
The airlines of the Lufthansa Group – Lufthansa, Austrian Airlines, Brussels Airlines and Swiss – will increase their profitability by redirecting their commercial strategy. Within this year the Lufthansa Group expects to generate an adjusted EBIT (earnings before interest and taxes) of more than EUR 1.5 billion before costs (strike-related action). This new commercial strategy is to ensure that, in future, a greater portion of the revenue will be earned from flight operations; the actual area of service to the customer.

Jens Bischof, member of the Lufthansa German Airlines Board and Chief Commercial Officer (CCO) of Deutsche Lufthansa AG, says: “Until now, the percentage of revenue generated from the sale of flight tickets by our airlines has continuously decreased. While other service and system partners in the value chain are recording increasing margins and returns, our airline’s earnings have been compromised over time, even though they are the actual providers of flight services. We want to counteract this trend by refocusing our commercial strategy.”

In the future, the airlines will therefore offer their services on a more flexible and modular basis, with individualized price options and ancillary services. The previously announced group-wide new Economy Class fare concept on European flights, to be introduced by Summer 2015, will enable the passenger to select their desired services, with such fare options as, “Light”, “Classic” and “Flex”. Based on the principle “you only pay for the services you want”, these branded fares will offer a variety of options. More customized services will better reflect customers’ preferences.

The new commercial strategy also includes a clear cost differentiation in the various booking channels. Presently, the costs for using global distribution systems (GDS) are several times higher than for other booking methods, such as our own online portal www.LH.com. In total, the yearly GDS costs come to a three-digit million euro amount for the Lufthansa Group. These services, however, are primarily used by other partners in the value chain. A large number of services are paid by the Lufthansa Group carriers, but are only partly used by them. Among others, the GDS services comprise functionalities, which offer many extra services in addition to the basic features of booking, processing and ticketing. Such examples include the option of combining and booking world-wide, multi-airline flight offers, as well as, an integrated booking and invoice processing.

As of 1 September 2015, the Lufthansa Group airlines will, therefore, include a surcharge, the “Distribution Cost Charge” (DCC) of EUR 16 for every ticket issued by a booking channel using GDS. The new charge will not be added to flight tickets purchased using own booking channels. This predominately includes the airlines’ websites (www.LH.com, www.swiss.com, www.austrian.com, www.brusselsairlines.com), as well as, the service center and ticket counter at the airports. Travel agencies will also be able to book tickets without the DCC, using the online portal at www.LHGroup-agent.com. Furthermore, corporate customers will be able to book their individually negotiated contract rates excluding the DCC at www.LH.com. Customers of Lufthansa Group Airlines can of course count on continued fare transparency. The display of the ticket will always show the final fare.

Innovative ancillary services and enhanced price options require suitable sales technology. The technology of our existing sales systems cannot adequately display the individual offers, with their variety of product components. The Lufthansa Group’s airlines are, therefore, in the process of developing a new booking method to enable sales partners to connect to their IT systems directly based on the new IATA data standard NDC (New Distribution Capability). The first NDC pilot project is currently being tested at Swiss and should begin at Lufthansa during the course of this year.

CCO Jens Bischof explains: “At present, airlines are not yet able to market their services via all sales channels, as it is common in other industries. The contracts and structures have previously prevented any deregulation in many areas. We want to change this with our new commercial strategy and take advantage of greater degrees of freedom in our sales activities, providing our customers with the exact tailor-made services that they are looking for and wherever they are looking for them.”

Deutsche Lufthansa AG
Media Relations Lufthansa Group
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 19, 2015, 01:10:35 PM
Just wanted to hear what anyone here thinks about LH groups 16 EUR charge for using a GDS effective Sep 1
Other news came up, looks like this fight was forgotten
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on June 21, 2015, 01:26:50 AM
When you say must, why is it my responsibility? the PAX might never have told me he used a systemwide to upgrade, I have no reason to go back into his booking and notice the HX! I definitely didn't cause the HX!
Well you have to check your queues...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on July 14, 2015, 04:38:27 PM
When I book a ticket out of the GDS lets say on UA for 2 pax and then the 2 pax split the PNR, will the UA PNRs still communicate with the GDS PNR to report HX updates etc?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on July 16, 2015, 02:35:57 AM
Does anyone here have an idea what this DL408 flight is? It does not show up anywhere.. And here you have someone confirmed on that flight. This ticket is under AZ ticket stock and I received a notice about a schedule change and this is the schedule change  ???
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on July 16, 2015, 10:03:53 AM
Does anyone here have an idea what this DL408 flight is? It does not show up anywhere.. And here you have someone confirmed on that flight. This ticket is under AZ ticket stock and I received a notice about a schedule change and this is the schedule change  ???
DL 469 has been changed to 408 starting Oct. 25 and is departing 11:45 Pm (as they did last year)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 16, 2015, 05:54:22 PM
looks like someone by Amadeus is having some fun on LY nerves  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on July 16, 2015, 06:10:59 PM
looks like someone by Amadeus is having some fun on LY nerves  :) :) :) :)
in regards to?

mean seat map?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on July 29, 2015, 12:44:18 PM
Anyone know if Amadeus works on Windows 10?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 29, 2015, 12:45:07 PM
Anyone know if Amadeus works on Windows 10?

They told me that yes
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on July 30, 2015, 12:05:27 PM
They told me that yes
Can you post if you try it?

Thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 30, 2015, 12:05:55 PM
Can you post if you try it?

Thanks
If I update
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on August 04, 2015, 07:54:50 AM
Anyone know if Amadeus works on Windows 10?
yes it does, and so does sabre
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 05, 2015, 03:52:35 PM
Anyone know if Amadeus works on Windows 10?

yes it does, and so does sabre

Quote
Dear Customer,
Microsoft officially launched Windows 10 operating system as a free upgrade for qualified Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 devices on July 29, 2015 to their customers with Microsoft Windows Update enabled.
 Microsoft Windows 10 operating system is not yet certified with Amadeus Selling Platform, Amadeus Cruise and Amadeus Pro Printer products, and should not be installed on PCs running these Amadeus software applications until further notice.
Customers should not accept an automatic Microsoft Windows update and should not install Windows 10 on PCs running Amadeus software applications until further notice.
Amadeus will be validating the new Microsoft Windows 10 operating system on Selling Platform v7.2p600 scheduled for production load on August 6th. We will communicate the date we expect this version to be available on an upgrade request basis for customers needing this new version of Selling Platform to run Windows 10 operating system with our products and platforms.
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Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on August 05, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Sabre told me the same thing when I called to get it set up on my upgraded pc (I chose to format and start again so I had to install sabre from scratch) I was previously running it on Windows 10 preview, it worked fine, and now it does too
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 11, 2015, 01:15:25 AM
Anyone well versed in Sabre smart keys?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yo on August 15, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
We should list the classes of service for miles redemption available to see in the gds.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on August 31, 2015, 02:35:56 AM
We should list the classes of service for miles redemption available to see in the gds.

An old list i have in my notes - not sure all are 100% up to date. Enjoy.

Aerolinas Argentinas: “U” (business class award), “X” (economy award), “I” (business class upgrade)
Aer Lingus: “U” (business class award), “T” (economy award)
Aeromexico: “R” (business class upgrade)
Aeroplan: “R” (business class upgrade)
Aircalin: “O” (business class award), “X” (economy award)
Air Europa: “Z” (business class award), “A” (economy award)
Air France: “O” (business class award)
Air Tahiti Nui: “A” (first class award), “I” (business class award), “W” (economy award), “Z” (business class upgrade)
Alaska Airlines: “A” (first class award), “U” (first class upgrade), “W” (economy award)
Avianca: “A” (business class award), “Z” (economy award)
Bangkok Airlines: “Y” (economy award)
Brussels Airlines: “I” (business class award or upgrade), “X” (economy award)
CCM Airlines: “X” (economy award)
China Eastern: “A” (first class award), “D” (business class award), “I” (economy award)
China Southern: “P” (first class award), “I” (business class award), “O” (economy award)
Czech Airlines: “Z” (business class award), “E” (economy award), “I” (business class upgrade)
El Al: “P” (first class award), “X” (business class award), “E” (economy award), “A” (first class upgrade), “R” (business class upgrade)
Etihad: “R” (first class upgrade), “X” (business class upgrade)
Gol: “I” (business class award), “X” (economy award)
Gulf Air: “P” (business class award), “T” (economy award)
Hainan Airlines: “A” (business class award), “S” (economy award)
Hawaiian Airlines: “U” (economy award), “P” (first class upgrade)
Icelandair: “Z” (business class award)
Korean Airlines: “A” (first class award/upgrade), “Z” (business upgrade)
Martinair: “W” (economy award)
Saudi Arabian: “A” (first class award), “D” (business award), “L” (economy award)
Shanghai Airlines: “O” (first class award), “I” (business class award), “X” (economy award)
Tarom: “Z” (business class award), “X” (economy award)
Transaero Airlines: “E” (economy award)
Turkish: “J” (business class upgrade using Miles&Smiles miles)
Virgin Australia: “H” (business class award)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on August 31, 2015, 02:52:47 AM
The base of a full unrestricted fare

Does anyone know if Elal offers AD fares for TA's and if so what price/class etc?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 31, 2015, 07:17:07 AM
Does anyone know if Elal offers AD fares for TA's and if so what price/class etc?
They offer, based on your contract
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on August 31, 2015, 07:17:53 AM
Transaero Airlines: “E” (economy award)
Looking TLV-VKO-NYC on Sabre, and don't see such a thing as E on UN
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on August 31, 2015, 09:03:09 AM
I have a pure SN flight (JFK-BRU) issued on SN tkt stock. Can I call SN to change it to new flights involving UA and LX with no SN flights?

Its an unrestricted tkt.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 31, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
I have a pure SN flight (JFK-BRU) issued on SN tkt stock. Can I call SN to change it to new flights involving UA and LX with no SN flights?

Its an unrestricted tkt.
SN "could"
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 06, 2015, 07:27:57 AM
September 1 came and went what are you guys doing about the LH Groups new YR?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 06, 2015, 07:29:39 AM


September 1 came and went what are you guys doing about the LH Group's new YR?

Passing it on to the client
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on September 06, 2015, 07:44:55 AM
September 1 came and went what are you guys doing about the LH Groups new YR?
Anyone notice that if it can legally plated on a non LHG airline, Sabre default prices validated on that airline?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 06, 2015, 07:57:53 AM
Anyone notice that if it can legally plated on a non LHG airline, Sabre default prices validated on that airline?
nice find
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on September 06, 2015, 07:59:05 AM

Passing it on to the client
trying to see if anyone is changing their way of booking
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 06, 2015, 01:28:29 PM
Anyone notice that if it can legally plated on a non LHG airline, Sabre default prices validated on that airline?

It's the nature of the WP function. It's designed to automatically look for the lowest possible combination of fare rules, validating carrier, etc. for the flights and classes used.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 14, 2015, 09:13:33 AM
Can we expect a waiver for flights to Israel? Lots of people canceled.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on October 20, 2015, 04:40:49 PM
For some reason, I can't get TK availability to show on Sabre. Anyone else having this issue?

IGD                                                             
106DECTLVNYC‡TK«                                               
 06DEC  SUN   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                   
1‡1«                                                           
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                   
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on October 20, 2015, 04:42:14 PM
For some reason, I can't get TK availability to show on Sabre. Anyone else having this issue?

IGD                                                             
106DECTLVNYC‡TK«                                               
 06DEC  SUN   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                   
1‡1«                                                           
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                 
Yes same by me.
although I know some agents do have availability.
In WS I do have
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 20, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
Yes same by me.
although I know some agents do have availability.
In WS I do have

working in 1A

Code: [Select]
17DECTLVNYC‡TK«                                                 
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                   
17DECTLVNYC¤TK«                                                 
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
TK RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **                   
 7TK 865 C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7*TLVIST  900A 1120A 321 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
 8TK   1 C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7*   JFK  120P  555P 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
 9TK 795 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y7 B7 M7*TLVIST 1235P  300P 404 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
10TK  11 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y7 B7 M7*   JFK  530P 1005P 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
11TK 791 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y7 B7 M7*TLVIST  100A  315A 321 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
12TK   3 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y7 B7 M7*   JFK  725A 1155A 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
* - FOR ADDITIONAL CLASSES ENTER 1*C.                           
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on October 20, 2015, 04:44:43 PM
Yes same by me.
although I know some agents do have availability.
In WS I do have
Orbitz (Amadeus) has, Travelocity (Sabre) does not. Very weird.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 20, 2015, 04:51:06 PM
In my Sabre
Code: [Select]
17DECTLVNYC‡TK«                                                 
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                   
17DECTLVNYC¤TK«                                                 
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
TK RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **                   
 7TK 865 C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7*TLVIST  900A 1120A 321 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
 8TK   1 C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7*   JFK  120P  555P 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
 9TK 795 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y7 B7 M7*TLVIST 1235P  300P 404 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
10TK  11 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y7 B7 M7*   JFK  530P 1005P 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
11TK 791 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y7 B7 M7*TLVIST  100A  315A 321 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
12TK   3 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y7 B7 M7*   JFK  725A 1155A 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7                                         
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on October 20, 2015, 04:59:01 PM
Why do the fare classes look so different by me?

17DECTLVNYC¤TK«                                                 
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
TK RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **                   
 7TK 865 C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7 TLVIST  900A 1120A 321 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7 L7 V7 P7 W7 X7 N6 G0                   
 8TK   1 C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y7 B7 M7    JFK  120P  555P 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7 L7 V7 P7 W7 X7 N6 G0                   
 9TK 795 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y7 B7 M7 TLVIST 1235P  300P 404 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7 L7 V7 P7 W7 X7 N6 G0                   
10TK  11 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y7 B7 M7    JFK  530P 1005P 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7 L7 V7 P7 W7 X7 N6 G0                   
11TK 791 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y7 B7 M7 TLVIST  100A  315A 321 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7 L7 V7 P7 W7 X7 N6 G0                   
12TK   3 C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y7 B7 M7    JFK  725A 1155A 333 0   
         H7 S7 E7 Q7 T7 L7 V7 P7 W7 X7 N6 G0.                   
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on October 20, 2015, 05:48:29 PM
For some reason, I can't get TK availability to show on Sabre. Anyone else having this issue?

IGD                                                             
106DECTLVNYC‡TK«                                               
 06DEC  SUN   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                   
1‡1«                                                           
 07DEC  MON   TLV/Z‡2     NYC/EST-7                             
NONE SKED TK.                                                 
Working in amadeus...

AN07DECTLVNYC/ATK                                                               
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** NYC NEW YORK.USNY             47 MO 07DEC 0000 
** WT BOUTIQUE TIMES SQUARE HOTEL* STEPS TO 5TH AVENUE*                         
** BROADWAY* COMP WI-FI* COMP BKFT BUFF* >HAWTNYC084DDMMM-1                     
 1   TK 865  C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y9 /TLV 3 IST I  900A   1120A  E0/321           
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
     TK 001  C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y9 /IST I JFK 1  120P    555P  E0/330      15:55
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
 2   TK 795  C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y9 /TLV 3 IST I 1235P    300P  E0/321           
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
     TK 011  C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R4 Y9 /IST I JFK 1  530P   1005P  E0/330      16:30
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
 3   TK 811  C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y9 /TLV 3 IST I  735A    955A  E0/321           
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
     TK 001  C4 D4 K4 J4 I0 R0 Y9 /IST I JFK 1  120P    555P  E0/330      17:20
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
 4   TK 791  C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y9 /TLV 3 IST I  100A    315A  E0/321           
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
     TK 003  C4 D4 K4 J4 I4 R0 Y9 /IST I JFK 1  725A   1155A  E0/330      17:55
             B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N6 G0                         
>
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 25, 2015, 03:59:59 PM
Does anybody have any insights on the new Gezierehabout AP on UA P class to TLV? :(

Will they continue with it while LY and DL don't have AP?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 25, 2015, 04:01:54 PM
Does anybody have any insights on the new Gezierehabout AP on UA P class to TLV? :(

Will they continue with it while LY and DL don't have AP?

Well LY added AP, but only a 1/5 of UA's amount  :(

ETA: DL has as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 25, 2015, 04:08:59 PM
Does anybody have any insights on the new Gezierehabout AP on UA P class to TLV? :(

Will they continue with it while LY and DL don't have AP?

Well, they have a new way around overbookings.....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on October 25, 2015, 04:11:23 PM
Anyone have experience renting bullet proof busses in israel? looking to charter a bus drive to kever rachel and chevron for the day - start and end in jerusalem.
So far someone told me it's in the 13k shek range - I have details of a company i'm calling tomorrow for a direct quote - just wondering if anyone has experience and knows the going rate..
I would think there is more than one company - so more than 1 price... let me know your thoughts.
TY..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 25, 2015, 04:14:33 PM
Well, they have a new way around overbookings.....
Well, if you really want a P class within 3 weeks I can still deliver it  ;)

But if you can get I class who needs P class  :P
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on October 25, 2015, 05:20:02 PM


Well LY added AP, but only a 1/5 of UA's amount  :(

ETA: DL has as well

DL is very easy with waivers.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 25, 2015, 07:58:46 PM
Well LY added AP, but only a 1/5 of UA's amount  :(

ETA: DL has as well
Don't see LY/DL requiring AP on J/Z classes.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 25, 2015, 08:00:03 PM
Code: [Select]
25OCT15**29SEP16/LY NYCTLV/NLX;AT/TPM  5666/MPM  6819                           
** FOR LY UPGRADE INFO SEE INFO NOTE LY/0310 **                                 
LN FARE BASIS    OW   USD  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R               
01 JAPRMUS                 2067 J  @  S01NOV  15DEC@10 SU@ 12M M               
                                      S25DEC  02APR                             
==============================================
ROE 1.000000 NEAREST 1.00 USD                                                   
25OCT15**29SEP16/DL NYCTLV/NLX;AT/TPM  5666/MPM  6819                           
LN FARE BASIS    OW   USD  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R               
01 ZP6OUS                  2067 Z NRF    -     -   @50@SU@ 12M M     

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Dr Moose on October 25, 2015, 08:01:00 PM
Anyone have experience renting bullet proof busses in israel? looking to charter a bus drive to kever rachel and chevron for the day - start and end in jerusalem.
So far someone told me it's in the 13k shek range - I have details of a company i'm calling tomorrow for a direct quote - just wondering if anyone has experience and knows the going rate..
I would think there is more than one company - so more than 1 price... let me know your thoughts.
TY..
Why this thread of all threads?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on October 28, 2015, 12:32:33 PM
Does anybody have any insights on the new Gezierehabout AP on UA P class to TLV? :(

Will they continue with it while LY and DL don't have AP?
BH UA came to their senses and backed off the 50 day rule
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 28, 2015, 12:43:16 PM
BH UA came to their senses and backed off the 50 day rule

They matched yesterday LY at 10 days AP
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on November 03, 2015, 12:40:26 PM
Whats going on with Sabre today?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 03, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
Whats going on with Sabre today?
Back up. Israeli Sabre was working the whole time, but I hate working on it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on November 03, 2015, 01:19:31 PM
Back up. Israeli Sabre was working the whole time, but I hate working on it
whew, how does a company of this magnitude get away with something like this ???
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 03, 2015, 01:44:50 PM
And its back down
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on November 03, 2015, 01:45:59 PM
And its back down
working fine by me
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 03, 2015, 01:56:04 PM
Not working by me. Been trying to get it started for over a half hour already...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 03, 2015, 04:09:17 PM
Back up and running here.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yessory on November 03, 2015, 05:04:41 PM
Off and on for me... When will will it be Sabre GREEN ?! ???
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 03, 2015, 05:20:22 PM
Off and on for me... When will will it be Sabre GREEN ?! ???
Yes. My excitement was short-lived as well....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on November 03, 2015, 05:56:11 PM
don't know why it feels better that it's not working for other people too - but phew..
I started searching Slickdeals for a new computer.. then i read this.. lol.. I guess it's not my processor buggin out on me...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on November 04, 2015, 12:24:07 AM
back up now.. that was quite annoying..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 15, 2015, 01:20:41 PM
Any info why the LY EWR flt today was canceled?

Did anyone EVER got LY to reprotect on UA or on any other airline?... So much for the airline with the worst customer service in the industry.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 15, 2015, 01:22:09 PM
Any info why the LY EWR flt today was canceled?

Did anyone EVER got LY to reprotect on UA or on any other airline?... So much for the airline with the worst customer service in the industry.

They reprotect. Had once they put someone on UA, and then UA canceled the flight as well....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on November 15, 2015, 01:23:43 PM
Any info why the LY EWR flt today was canceled?

Did anyone EVER got LY to reprotect on UA or on any other airline?... So much for the airline with the worst customer service in the industry.
I had today 2 pax in J and they protected on UA in Z ..  but I don't think they do it too often
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 15, 2015, 01:24:08 PM
They reprotect. Had once they put someone on UA, and then UA canceled the flight as well....
You called regular LY customer service?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 15, 2015, 01:26:20 PM
You called regular LY customer service?
No, sales support
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 15, 2015, 10:24:53 PM


Any info why the LY EWR flt today was canceled?

Is this the reason?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57548.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57548.0)

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 15, 2015, 10:45:28 PM

Is this the reason?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57548.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=57548.0)
I was thinking. You think they used the EWR plane to fly LAX-TLV?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on November 15, 2015, 10:46:47 PM
I was thinking. You think they used the EWR plane to fly LAX-TLV?
definitely a nice theory...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 15, 2015, 10:48:08 PM
definitely a nice theory...
Alas the cancellation happened before the emergence landing  ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on November 15, 2015, 10:50:38 PM
Alas the cancellation happened before the emergence landing  ;)
someone should come up with a theory why they planned the whole thing out....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 15, 2015, 11:02:42 PM
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/el-al-matmid/1608230-el-al-maintenance-mechanical-mishaps-6.html

Read down the page.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ELY1005

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ELY5
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on December 01, 2015, 05:56:31 PM
Has anyone gotten amadeus installed on a computer that already had Windows 10 at the time? As opposed to it working after upgrading.

Thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 01, 2015, 06:38:46 PM
Is there any way to get LY J class JFK-TLV to price $2999 within 10 days of departure?...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 01, 2015, 06:40:46 PM
Is there any way to get LY J class JFK-TLV to price $2999 within 10 days of departure?...
Back price it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 02, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
Back price it
And they won't send an ADM?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 02, 2015, 11:33:02 AM
And they won't send an ADM?
They will. You pay ADMs?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 02, 2015, 11:54:25 AM
They will. You pay ADMs?
Depends which amount ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 10, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
After clearing a misunderstanding between 1A & LY, DS is now accepted in 1A for LY-114
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on December 11, 2015, 12:34:52 AM
After clearing a misunderstanding between 1A & LY, DS is now accepted in 1A for LY-114

Thanks Chff for your hard work!
We appreciate it!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 16, 2015, 01:44:42 PM
Did anyone get Amadeus install on a PC running W10 out of the box?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: etech0 on December 16, 2015, 02:22:52 PM
Did anyone get Amadeus install on a PC running W10 out of the box?
I just downgraded a laptop to win 7 for that reason...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on January 07, 2016, 11:29:13 AM
sabre down again...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 07, 2016, 12:13:10 PM
sabre down again...
US. Israel is working fine
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 07, 2016, 02:00:01 PM
I believe that it's back down again. Anyone else having issues?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on January 07, 2016, 02:07:35 PM
been on and off for me
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 07, 2016, 03:11:06 PM
It's an SVPN issue. Private VPNs are working. I just issued a ticket in the US via private VPN
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 07, 2016, 06:58:11 PM
Up again.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on January 20, 2016, 12:36:49 AM
is it just me or is QF down for everyone? 2 different PCC's in 2 diff regions getting "HOST NOT RESPONDING - RETRY LATER" for QF Mel-Lax  :o
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 20, 2016, 12:39:25 AM
is it just me or is QF down for everyone? 2 different PCC's in 2 diff regions getting "HOST NOT RESPONDING - RETRY LATER" for QF Mel-Lax  :o
In Sabre? I think there is a miscommunication between 1A & 1S
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on January 20, 2016, 12:46:58 AM
yes sabre.. "1A and 1S" goes above my head.
Is it something on Sabre's side? anything to fix it?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 20, 2016, 12:47:47 AM
yes sabre.. "1A and 1S" goes above my head.
Is it something on Sabre's side? anything to fix it?
Amadeus and Sabre. Having some link issues in Amadeus with Sabre hosted carriers
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 20, 2016, 12:50:10 AM
Just pulled up QF in Amadeus.

>AD20FEBMELLAX/AQF
AD20FEBMELLAX/AQF                                                               
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** LAX LOS ANGELES.USCA          31 SA 20FEB 0000 
 1   QF 093  F9 A9 J9 C9 DL IL W9 /MEL 2 LAX B 1120A    635A  E0/388      14:15
             RL TL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X8                                   
 2JQ:QF5602  Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 /AVV   SYD 2  600A    725A  E0/320  TR       
             S9 N9 Q9                                                           
     QF 011  F7 A6 J9 C9 DL IL W9 /SYD 1 LAX B 1130A    625A  E0/388      19:25
             RL TL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X9                                   
 3JQ:QF5602  Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 /AVV   SYD 2  600A    725A  E0/320  TR       
             S9 N9 Q9                                                           
  AA:QF 309  FL AL J9 C9 D9 IL Y9 /SYD 1 LAX B 1200N    650A  E0/77W      19:50
             B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9                                     
 4   QF 604  JL CL DL IL Y9 B9 H9 /MEL 1 BNE D  705A    815A  E0/73H           
             K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X3                                                 
     QF 015  JL CL DL IL W9 RL TL /BNE I LAX B 1100A    600A  E0/744      17:55
             Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X3                                         
 5   QF 414  J8 C8 DL IL Y9 B9 H9 /MEL 1 SYD 3  800A    925A  E0/73H           
             K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X9                                                 
     QF 011  F7 A6 J8 C8 DL IL W9 /SYD 1 LAX B 1130A    625A  E0/388      17:25
             RL TL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X9
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 20, 2016, 12:51:40 AM
Just pulled up QF in Amadeus.

>AD20FEBMELLAX/AQF
AD20FEBMELLAX/AQF                                                               
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** LAX LOS ANGELES.USCA          31 SA 20FEB 0000 
 1   QF 093  F9 A9 J9 C9 DL IL W9 /MEL 2 LAX B 1120A    635A  E0/388      14:15
             RL TL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X8                                   
 2JQ:QF5602  Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 /AVV   SYD 2  600A    725A  E0/320  TR       
             S9 N9 Q9                                                           
     QF 011  F7 A6 J9 C9 DL IL W9 /SYD 1 LAX B 1130A    625A  E0/388      19:25
             RL TL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X9                                   
 3JQ:QF5602  Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 /AVV   SYD 2  600A    725A  E0/320  TR       
             S9 N9 Q9                                                           
  AA:QF 309  FL AL J9 C9 D9 IL Y9 /SYD 1 LAX B 1200N    650A  E0/77W      19:50
             B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9                                     
 4   QF 604  JL CL DL IL Y9 B9 H9 /MEL 1 BNE D  705A    815A  E0/73H           
             K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X3                                                 
     QF 015  JL CL DL IL W9 RL TL /BNE I LAX B 1100A    600A  E0/744      17:55
             Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X3                                         
 5   QF 414  J8 C8 DL IL Y9 B9 H9 /MEL 1 SYD 3  800A    925A  E0/73H           
             K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X9                                                 
     QF 011  F7 A6 J8 C8 DL IL W9 /SYD 1 LAX B 1130A    625A  E0/388      17:25
             RL TL Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 X9
QF is Amadeus hosted.....
I was having some trouble with B6 (Sabre hosted) in Amadeus, and OP is having trouble with QF in Sabre
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 20, 2016, 12:53:43 AM
Aha. Pulling up B6 availability though.

AD20FEBNYCFLL/AB6                                                               
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** FLL FT LAUDERDALE.USFL        31 SA 20FEB 0000 
** HH HILTON FT LAUDERDALE MARINA**COMP BEACH SHTL                             
** RTS FRM 189US*MIN FR APRT/CRUISE PRT*TO BOOK >HAHHFLL954                     
 1   B6 605  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /EWR A FLL 3  600A    900A  E0.320 9     3:00
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z5 O0 U0 S0 P0                                         
 2   B6 371  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /LGA B FLL 3  600A    903A  E0.320 9     3:03
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S7 P0                                         
 3   B6 601  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /JFK 5 FLL 3  600A    908A  E0.320 9     3:08
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S4 P0                                         
 4   B61701  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /JFK 5 FLL 3  730A   1042A  E0.320 8     3:12
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S2 P0                                         
 5   B6 001  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /JFK 5 FLL 3  914A   1224P  E0.320 8     3:10
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S6 P0                                         
 6   B6 971  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /LGA B FLL 3  930A   1241P  E0.320 8     3:11
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S7 P0                                         
 7   B6 005  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /EWR A FLL 3  945A   1252P  E0.320 9     3:07
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S2 P0                                         
 8   B61501  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /JFK 5 FLL 3  947A   1253P  E0.320 N     3:06
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S5 P0                                         
 9   B6 301  Y7 E7 K7 H7 Q7 B7 L7 /JFK 5 FLL 3 1228P    332P  E0.E90 8     3:04
             V7 R7 W7 M7 Z7 O7 U7 S4 P0   
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 21, 2016, 08:41:44 PM
I had a ticketed reservation with LY JFK-TLV for this coming Motzei Shabbos in J class, I figured that since the customer might not make that flight because of the storm I will put in a flight for Sunday as well so in case the customer can't make it I have her rebooked for Sunday.

What I didn't know was that stupid El Al will cancel the ticketed segment for Motzei Shabbos because of the segment I added for Sunday.  What can I do now to get back the J class for Motzei Shabbos?   :'(

Its a good customer who I don't wish to mess with. Never mind that she lost her seat upstairs  :-[
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 21, 2016, 09:42:45 PM
Also, does anyone know it El Al has any waiver in place for the coming snow storm?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 21, 2016, 10:58:04 PM
Also, does anyone know it El Al has any waiver in place for the coming snow storm?
No
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 22, 2016, 07:11:40 AM
I had a ticketed reservation with LY JFK-TLV for this coming Motzei Shabbos in J class, I figured that since the customer might not make that flight because of the storm I will put in a flight for Sunday as well so in case the customer can't make it I have her rebooked for Sunday.

What I didn't know was that stupid El Al will cancel the ticketed segment for Motzei Shabbos because of the segment I added for Sunday.  What can I do now to get back the J class for Motzei Shabbos?   :'(

Its a good customer who I don't wish to mess with. Never mind that she lost her seat upstairs  :-[
This is standard. You have to call the agents line and ask them if it's possible to reinstate.

Also, does anyone know it El Al has any waiver in place for the coming snow storm?
They don't
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 22, 2016, 07:44:09 AM
Ok, this is a little more for my future reference, but when using an auto waiver, use originally ticketed F/B regardless of RBD booked in.
I know that's what makes sense, but always good to be sure
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 22, 2016, 09:42:26 AM
LY is waiving change fees for changes to Sunday.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on January 22, 2016, 10:01:56 AM
LY is waiving change fees for changes to Sunday.
Including fare difference?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 22, 2016, 10:03:41 AM
Including fare difference?
Well, its LY, no.....

And no seats in C now for Sunday anyway.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on January 22, 2016, 10:04:18 AM
Well, its LY, no.....

And no seats in C now for Sunday anyway.
Figured so...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 22, 2016, 10:07:37 AM
I had a ticketed reservation with LY JFK-TLV for this coming Motzei Shabbos in J class, I figured that since the customer might not make that flight because of the storm I will put in a flight for Sunday as well so in case the customer can't make it I have her rebooked for Sunday.

What I didn't know was that stupid El Al will cancel the ticketed segment for Motzei Shabbos because of the segment I added for Sunday.  What can I do now to get back the J class for Motzei Shabbos?   :'(

Its a good customer who I don't wish to mess with. Never mind that she lost her seat upstairs  :-[
Update: I called the help desk to reinstate right when it happened, they said they will send it to Israel who denied the space. I just called again and the agent said "I will ask my supervisor but I promise she will not give it" well after 5 minutes on hold she comes back "my supervisor will make a one time exception and put it back but she said she will put a remark on the ticket not to allow the free changes to Sunday if need be"  :o
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on January 22, 2016, 10:08:52 AM
Update: I called the help desk to reinstate right when it happened, they said they will send it to Israel who denied the space. I just called again and the agent said "I will ask my supervisor but I promise she will not give it" well after 5 minutes on hold she comes back "my supervisor will make a one time exception and put it back but she said she will put a remark on the ticket not to allow the free changes to Sunday if need be"  :o
Record broken
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2016, 09:47:57 AM
So the debit memos for using YTZ started pouring in....

Do they really expect everyone to pay them?....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 02, 2016, 09:50:16 AM
So the debit memos for using YTZ started pouring in....

Do they really expect everyone to pay them?....
Yes, and they have ways how to make the wholesaler pay
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 02, 2016, 09:56:36 AM
So the debit memos for using YTZ started pouring in....

Do they really expect everyone to pay them?....
How do you expect not to pay them, unless you mean not to pay the ARC agency, basically genaiva
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 02, 2016, 09:57:40 AM
How do you expect not to pay them, unless you mean not to pay the ARC agency, basically genaiva
Welcome to my club
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 02, 2016, 09:59:03 AM
Welcome to my club
Oh, I'm well aware. Just surprised that someone admitted it in public
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2016, 10:05:20 AM
Yes, and they have ways how to make the wholesaler pay
Right, I am talking about the wholesaler, I mean they are El Al not a real airline with official policy's etc, the same way they were able to throw my pax off the plane the same way the wholesaler should say, I am not paying. Huh?
Oh, I'm well aware. Just surprised that someone admitted it in public
Link?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 02, 2016, 10:07:51 AM


Right, I am talking about the wholesaler, I mean they are El Al not a real airline with official policy's etc, the same way they were able to throw my pax off the plane the same way the wholesaler should say, I am not paying. Huh?

Every airline has means to make the wholesaler pay, and LY has deployed one here that hurts
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2016, 10:10:25 AM
Basically, what can they threaten with? Pull contracts? They will lose out more than the TAs....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2016, 10:12:06 AM
and LY has deployed one here that hurts
what?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 02, 2016, 10:20:04 AM
Right, I am talking about the wholesaler, I mean they are El Al not a real airline with official policy's etc, the same way they were able to throw my pax off the plane the same way the wholesaler should say, I am not paying. Huh?
Yes, and then Elal pulls plates
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2016, 10:26:43 AM
Yes, and then Elal pulls plates
Okay, so no one will have El Al plates. And how will El Al make money? I mean its not that they are an airline like UA etc, they are very desperate on TAs and if they pull plates for this no one will have plates..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 02, 2016, 10:29:28 AM
Okay, so no one will have El Al plates. And how will El Al make money? I mean its not that they are an airline like UA etc, they are very desperate on TAs and if they pull plates for this no one will have plates..
So putting your money where your mouth is, how much are you ready to bet that some TAs will pay to keep their plates?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2016, 10:36:34 AM
So putting your money where your mouth is, how much are you ready to bet that some TAs will pay to keep their plates?
I don't know. But that is precisely my question.  There aren't that many wholesalers with El Al. It does not take much effort to organize together. At least to work out a deal. They should've sent out a warning first.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 02, 2016, 10:42:25 AM
I don't know. But that is precisely my question.  There aren't that many wholesalers with El Al. It does not take much effort to organize together. At least to work out a deal. They should've sent out a warning first.
No warning needed on hidden city (or ever truth be told). And the reason is that the Jewish agencies need them just as much, if not more than Elal needs the agents. It's true Elal needs the Agencies a lot more than DL/UA needs them, but it's still a codependent relationship.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Alexsei on February 16, 2016, 04:20:09 PM
Would this be the right place to ask this?
Looking for someone who can book 20 pax on a multi city itin with SN involves codeshare flights with AC & PS.
Expecting to pay price avalible on brusselsairlines.com Please PM for details
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 16, 2016, 04:24:55 PM
Would this be the right place to ask this?
Looking for someone who can book 20 pax on a multi city itin with SN involves codeshare flights with AC & PS.
Expecting to pay price avalible on brusselsairlines.com Please PM for details
Why don't you just book it online?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Alexsei on February 16, 2016, 04:32:48 PM
Why don't you just book it online?
9 max I know i can book 9 and then see about the rest but i want to know the cost for the whole group before I commit to this route
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 18, 2016, 08:41:47 PM
Anyone know if Amadeus works on Windows 10?

Did anyone get Amadeus install on a PC running W10 out of the box?

I just downgraded a laptop to win 7 for that reason...
Got it working on my new W10
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 18, 2016, 09:37:05 PM
Got it working on my new W10
+1 I upgraded like a few months ago, was there ever an issue in the first place?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 18, 2016, 09:38:31 PM
+1 I upgraded like a few months ago, was there ever an issue in the first place?

Amadeus Tech does not install on Windows 10
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 18, 2016, 09:40:19 PM
Amadeus Tech does not install on Windows 10
You mean you can't install afresh on PC with windows 10?


ETA: just relized I have windows 8.1 not 10 lol
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 18, 2016, 09:44:27 PM
Once we are on this subject...
Anyone here have Amadeus on a tablet?
If yes which one would work with it and what mobile carrier has them (data wise)?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 18, 2016, 09:44:49 PM
You mean you can't install afresh on PC with windows 10?


ETA: just relized I have windows 8.1 not 10 lol

Correct. If you upgraded w8 to w10 its working. I managed to install it on a fresh W10
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 18, 2016, 09:45:44 PM
Once we are on this subject...
Anyone here have Amadeus on a tablet?
If yes which one would work with it and what mobile carrier has them (data wise)?

You either use Team Viewer or Amadeus Selling Platform Connect, not sure what a difference it makes the mobile carrier
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 18, 2016, 09:48:49 PM
You either use Team Viewer or Amadeus Selling Platform Connect, not sure what a difference it makes the mobile carrier
What I meant is more like clear stuff, for example some windows tablet that you can install GDS with direct mobile data connection  and would not have the fuzziness of TeamViewer etc...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 18, 2016, 09:50:05 PM
What I meant is more like clear stuff, for example some windows tablet that you can install GDS with direct mobile data connection  and would not have the fuzziness of TeamViewer etc...

My new laptop is a tablet well if you mean that....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Myccrabbi on February 18, 2016, 09:52:26 PM
My new laptop is a tablet well if you mean that....
Yes I mean that but I want mobile data capubility like the surface 3 tablet but I can't find anything newer that has a mobile data plan.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on March 20, 2016, 04:35:10 PM
Instructions for the "1+1" promo from J2 for Amadeus: (They sent me the Sabre version in a PDF in Russian. If anyone wants it, PM me and I'll forward it)

--- TST RLR SFP ---                                                             

RP/BAK1A0980/BAK1A0980            RM/SU  15MAR16/0705Z   2ZD2BT                 

  1.TEST/TEST MR (CMA)   2.TEST/TEST MRS(CMP)                               

  3  J2 101 J 09APR 6 GYDJFK HK2  0600 0930  09APR  E  J2/D37BW                 

  4  J2 102 J 16APR 6 JFKGYD HK2  1130 0700  17APR  E  J2/D37BW                 

 

FXP/FXB

FXB                                                                             

                                                                               

NO REBOOKING REQUIRED FOR LOWEST AVAILABLE FARE                                 

   PASSENGER         PTC    NP  FARE<AZN>     TAX   PER PSGR                   

01 TEST/TEST         ADT     1     884.60  192.60    1077.20                   

02 TEST/TEST         ADT     1     884.60  192.60    1077.20                   

                                                                               

                   TOTALS    2    1769.20  385.20    2154.40                                                                                       

 

TTS /P2

TTS/P2

TST00017     BAK1A0980 RM/16MAR I 5                  OD BAKBAK                 

T-                                                                             

FXB                                                                             

   2.TEST/TEST(CMP)                                                       

 1   GYD J2  101 T 09APR 0600  OK T2OW            09APR09APR 2PC               

 2 O JFK J2  102 T 16APR 1130  OK T2OW            16APR16APR 2PC               

     GYD                                                                       

FARE  F EUR     488.00                                                         

EQUIV   AZN     884.60                                                         

TX001 X AZN    11.00-YQAD TX002 X AZN    18.20-JLAP TX003 X AZN    36.30-AZDP   

TX004 X AZN    14.50-JBLO TX005 X AZN    18.20-JLSE TX006 X AZN     9.00-YCAE   

TX007 X AZN    29.10-USAP TX008 X AZN    29.10-USAS TX009 X AZN     6.50-XACO   

TX010 X AZN    11.50-XYCR TX011 X AZN     9.20-AYSE                             

TOTAL   AZN    1077.20    BSR 1.8127                                           

GRAND TOTAL AZN    1077.20                                                     

BAK J2 NYC265.67J2 BAK265.67NUC531.34END ROE0.918404                     

 

TTS/P2

ER

 

TTK/P2/FUSD0

ER

 

FE////CONJUCTION TICKET 771-………..//////  להכניס מספר כרטיס של הלקוח הראשון

ER

.

TTP/P2/RT

 
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on March 31, 2016, 05:30:12 PM
TA's should note that it seems that AA is stopping to allow 2 free checked bags between TLV and NYC effective today. I've only noticed the fact that they were allowing it a few weeks ago, but it had a quick death. Example from Sabre: (notice the difference between today and yesterdays)

Route:
 1 AA8374S 19APR T*TLVCDG HK2   600A 1005A SPM /DCAA* /E 
OPERATED BY EL AL ISRAEL AIRLINES                               
 2 AA 121S 19APR T CDGJFK*HK2   110P  345P SPM /DCAA* /E 
 3 AA6143V 05MAY Q JFKLHR HK2   755A  745P SPM /DCAA* /E 
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS                                     
 4 BA 163V 05MAY Q LHRTLV HK2  1040P  530A  06MAY F SPM         
                                               /DCBA* /E 

WP«                                                             
19APR DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 02APR/2359       
       BASE FARE                 TAXES/FEES/CHARGES    TOTAL   
 2-    USD489.00                    391.59XT       USD880.59ADT
    XT    230.00YR      35.60US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            3.96XA       5.60AY      24.63IL       9.10FR       
           20.90QX      44.80UB       4.50XF                   
          978.00                    783.18           1761.18TTL
ADT-02  SKEELF2W VLE0F6R5                                       
 TLV AA X/PAR AA NYC M184.50AA X/LON BA TLV M304.50NUC489.00   
 END ROE1.00 XFJFK4.5                                           
NO RFND/CHANGE FEE APPLIES                                     
RESTRICTIONS APPLY                                             
VALIDATING CARRIER - AA                                         
ALTERNATE VALIDATING CARRIER/S - BA                             
BAG ALLOWANCE     -TLVJFK-01P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
2NDCHECKED BAG FEE-TLVJFK-USD100.00/AA/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 KILOG
RAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS**       
BAG ALLOWANCE     -JFKTLV-01P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 ‡
WPB30MAR16«                                                     
19APR DEPARTURE DATE-----LAST DAY TO PURCHASE 02APR/2359       
       BASE FARE                 TAXES/FEES/CHARGES    TOTAL   
 2-    USD489.00                    391.29XT       USD880.29ADT
    XT    230.00YR      35.60US       5.50YC       7.00XY       
            3.96XA       5.60AY      24.63IL       9.10FR       
           20.90QX      44.50UB       4.50XF                   
          978.00                    782.58           1760.58TTL
ADT-02  SKEELF2W VLE0F6R5                                       
 TLV AA X/PAR AA NYC M184.50AA X/LON BA TLV M304.50NUC489.00   
 END ROE1.00 XFJFK4.5                                           
NO RFND/CHANGE FEE APPLIES                                     
RESTRICTIONS APPLY                                             
VALIDATING CARRIER - AA                                         
ALTERNATE VALIDATING CARRIER/S - BA                             
BAG ALLOWANCE     -TLVJFK-02P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
BAG ALLOWANCE     -JFKTLV-02P/AA/EACH PIECE UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 
KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS     
CARRY ON ALLOWANCE                                             ‡
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 03, 2016, 04:25:53 PM
Who ever didn't manage yet to install Amadeus on Windows 10, you can try now as its officially supported
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 03, 2016, 04:36:22 PM
Being that 'tis the season, I will write a brief post regarding even exchanges in Sabre. I am referring to INVOL situations such as BRU where you are reprotecting pax. This post will probably require some updating so I will come back and edit it when I have the chance. Feedback welcome, as there is always going to be something to add.

There are a few levels of even exchange
SCENARIO A
You have an autoexchange that price as $0.00 difference and you just have to remove the penalty (Sabre autoexchange will not allow you to adjust penalty to 0, so you will either have to adjust in ARC or manual exchange)

Before we start scenario B and C I strongly recommend (at least for windows users. I don't know if this is possible for MAC) that you keep 2 tabs open side by side and have the PQ (you did save one by ticketing, right?) or at least the original ETR open in one tab while you work on the other tab

SCENARIO B
There is a difference in price, but it does in fact price with WFR.
1) In such a situation you will start the exchange mask using WFRTR2 (if ticket being exchanged is line 2), add you qualifiers such as segment select, passenger type, upsell, etc.
Say a tefilla and if you X all the down and next you don't get "NO FARE FOR CLASS USED" You may have just cut your work by 75%
We will start with manual pricing, but if it autoprices, thank the lord and skip to step 5
2) Auto-Manual Pricing
If you were unable to get past the screen where you are able to insert farebasis and putting a "P" in the P/M box says "NO FARE" then the first thing to try is putting in the original f/bs and designators in the appropriate boxes. Outbound fares for outbound and return for return. Hit P and see if that will price. If yes, continue to step 5, if not continue below.
3) The boxes all the way on the right are for the fare amount per segment. If you have the pricing info open in another tab, just look at the pricing of each fare sector and input it on the top box of the last segment before the fare break. (not the Q box). If you get to the fare calc page, great and continue to step 5, if not continue below
4) Fully M pricing
Just make sure the taxes all match the original ticket exactly, and then move onto the fare calc mask
5) Fare Calc Mask
Here you have to put in the fare calculation exactly as it was in the original ticket. Hit next.
6) Comparison Screen
If you have done everything correctly, the base difference should be $0. If taxes are off, X by tax comparison, then X by tax update, and manually correct all the taxes to be the same.

You should now hopefully have a difference of $0. Personally I'm a fan of first retaining, saving, and then issuing off PQR. Less of a chance to get a simultaneous for being in the record too long.

To be continued with Phase IV exchange
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: kammer on April 07, 2016, 10:22:37 PM
Does anyone know if there is a sabre equivalent to the amadeus format 1UART123abc (where 123abc is the UA record locator)?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on April 08, 2016, 01:24:03 AM
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Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: kammer on April 08, 2016, 06:44:48 PM
in pnr says
‡PNR PRESENT - IGNORE OR FINISH‡ 

out of pnr says
UNABLE TO DISPLAY PNR AND-OR NAME LIST   



Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 08, 2016, 06:49:10 PM
in pnr says
‡PNR PRESENT - IGNORE OR FINISH‡ 

out of pnr says
UNABLE TO DISPLAY PNR AND-OR NAME LIST
Because it's secured, why would UA allow you to see it?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: kammer on April 08, 2016, 09:34:25 PM
It is not secured. I booked.

In Amadeus say the original flight was cancelled. You can tell ua protected due to e tkt status but for whatever reason the new flight didn't come over.

I can do 1uart and see ua's side and see the new flight. It is view only.

Just wondering if there is a similar format in sabre (for a pnr booked in sabre obv.)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 12, 2016, 04:00:26 PM
How do i book in Amadeus TLV to NY with a day stopover in LHR,  TLV-LHR will be on LY  LHR-NY will be on AA with LY  code share. Regular availability only shows with a short layover
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 12, 2016, 04:02:23 PM
How do i book in Amadeus TLV to NY with a day stopover in LHR,  TLV-LHR will be on LY  LHR-NY will be on AA with LY  code share. Regular availability only shows with a short layover
Long sell?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 12, 2016, 04:14:19 PM
Long sell?
Can you tell me how to do it?

I guess I bring up the availability to LHR with LY and sell the segament, now what next?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on April 12, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
Can you tell me how to do it?

I guess I bring up the availability to LHR with LY and sell the segament, now what next?

DIRECT SELL             SSEI154C12JULDUBLHR1              MS211               
 (LONG ENTRY)                                                   
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: carele1 on April 12, 2016, 07:12:01 PM
                        SEGMENT SELL 1        EN  13MAY05 1401Z                 
                                                                               
 DIRECT SELL ENTRY:  SSEI154C12JULDUBLHR1                                       
 ------------------                                                             
        SS           TRANSACTION CODE                                           
        EI154        AIRLINE CODE AND FLIGHT NUMBER                             
        C            CLASS OF SERVICE                                           
        12JUL        DEPARTURE DATE                                             
        DUBLHR       DEPARTURE CITY AND ARRIVAL CITY                           
        1            NUMBER OF SEATS                                           
                                                                               
 IF THE NUMBER OF THE FLIGHT THAT YOU ARE BOOKING INCLUDES A                   
 LETTER, YOU MUST INSERT A SLASH (/) BETWEEN THE FLIGHT NUMBER                 
 AND THE CLASS OF SERVICE. FOR EXAMPLE, ENTER:                                 
                                                                               
                     SSAF950A/M12DECCDGBRU3                                     
    SS               TRANSACTION CODE                                           
    AF950A           AIRLINE CODE AND FLIGHT NUMBER                             
    /M               SLASH FOLLOWED BY THE CLASS OF SERVICE                     
    12DEC            DEPARTURE DATE                                             
    CDGBRU           DEPARTURE CITY AND ARRIVAL CITY                           
    3                NUMBER OF PASSENGERS                                 
                       SEGMENT SELL 1        EN  13MAY05 1401Z                 
                                                                               
 ENTERING TIMES WITH THE FLEXIBLE TIME FORMAT                                   
 --------------------------------------------                                   
 WHEN SELLING A SEGMENT, YOU CAN ENTER TIMES IN 12 OR 24 HOUR                   
 FORMAT, REGARDLESS OF THE DEFAULT IN YOUR OFFICE PROFILE.                     
                                                                               
 FOR EXAMPLE, BOTH OF THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLES ARE VALID:                         
                                                                               
               SSAZ234M28JANLINLHRNN1/910A120P                                 
               SSAZ234M28JANLINLHRNN1/09101320                                 
                                                                               
     12 HR FORMAT :  EXPLANATION  : 24 HR FORMAT EQUIVALENT                     
     -------------+---------------+------------------------                     
      910A        :  09:10 AM     :    0910                                     
      120P        :   1:20 PM     :    1320                                     
      12N         :  12 NOON      :    1200                                     
      12M         :  12 MIDNIGHT  :    2400                                     
                                                                               
 NOTE: IF THE PNR CONTAINS SEVERAL SEGMENTS, THEY WILL ALL BE                   
       REDISPLAYED USING THE FORMAT USED FOR THE LAST SEGMENT                   
       ENTERED.                                             
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 12, 2016, 07:55:06 PM
How do i book in Amadeus TLV to NY with a day stopover in LHR,  TLV-LHR will be on LY  LHR-NY will be on AA with LY  code share. Regular availability only shows with a short layover

With LY its actually very easy as they don't have married segments. (And even if yes would it have been a problem for you  ;)). Sell LON-NYC using the date you want with the LY flight on that date, then simply XE the LY flight
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 12, 2016, 08:04:32 PM
DIRECT SELL             SSEI154C12JULDUBLHR1              MS211               
 (LONG ENTRY)                                                 
Thanks. Guess will have new thing to play around with...

With LY its actually very easy as they don't have married segments. (And even if yes would it have been a problem for you  ;)). Sell LON-NYC using the date you want with the LY flight on that date, then simply XE the LY flight
Nice idea. Tx. Worked.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 15, 2016, 08:41:59 AM
This was posted on the job thread http://crankyflier.com/2016/04/14/the-only-posting-today-is-a-job-posting-or-two/ (http://crankyflier.com/2016/04/14/the-only-posting-today-is-a-job-posting-or-two/)

He is looking g for some with GDS/"ARS" experience....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 28, 2016, 11:25:39 PM
My computer updated to Win 10 without asking me and now Amadeus is not working normally. What to do?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 28, 2016, 11:28:09 PM
My computer updated to Win 10 without asking me and now Amadeus is not working normally. What to do?
Call Amadeus tech, they will fix it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 29, 2016, 01:13:49 AM
Call Amadeus tech, they will fix it
Which number is good to call now?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 29, 2016, 01:18:12 AM
Which number is good to call now?
Regular tech line
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on August 09, 2016, 04:20:37 AM
Crappy update from elal for anyone who has sold YYZ-TLV recently.

EL AL flights to/from Toronto-Update

Dear Travel Partners,
EL AL flights to/from Toronto to Tel Aviv will be operated until September
30th, 2016, by a Boeing 777-200, wet leased from the Spanish company
"Privilege Style"....
The flights that will be operated with this aircraft are:
Tel Aviv/Toronto LY029/LY031
Toronto/Tel Aviv LY030/LY032
....
• Passengers who purchased Economy Class Plus seats will receive a
refund for the EMD
Please check your distribution system for updates and changes in the
timetable.
We appreciate your passing this information on to your customers who have
purchased tickets for these flights.
Thank You,
EL AL North America Team
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Phase IV on August 10, 2016, 01:24:53 PM
I remember ticketing an extra seat for comfort on Elal a long time ago. Now I have to do it again and I can't seem to remember how it's done. Anyone familiar with the process?
TIA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 10, 2016, 01:37:59 PM
I remember ticketing an extra seat for comfort on Elal a long time ago. Now I have to do it again and I can't seem to remember how it's done. Anyone familiar with the process?
TIA
From your user name I'm assuming Sabre?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Phase IV on August 10, 2016, 01:49:49 PM
From your user name I'm assuming Sabre?
Yup :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 10, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
Yup :)
Link to instructions in the wiki
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Phase IV on August 11, 2016, 09:06:57 AM
Link to instructions in the wiki
Thanks. I wasn't referring to an economy comfort or preferred seat. I wanted to know how I would ticket a second seat for someone that needed the extra room. What would I put in the name field? Do I put in a special osi? I remember ticketing without the tax for the second seat. I don't remember if I built the fare manually or if there was a special entry for ticketing.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 11, 2016, 09:18:37 AM
Thanks. I wasn't referring to an economy comfort or preferred seat. I wanted to know how I would ticket a second seat for someone that needed the extra room. What would I put in the name field? Do I put in a special osi? I remember ticketing without the tax for the second seat. I don't remember if I built the fare manually or if there was a special entry for ticketing.
IIRC you issue a regular ticket for the pax, and call LY to do the exst
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 11, 2016, 10:38:44 AM
Thanks. I wasn't referring to an economy comfort or preferred seat. I wanted to know how I would ticket a second seat for someone that needed the extra room. What would I put in the name field? Do I put in a special osi? I remember ticketing without the tax for the second seat. I don't remember if I built the fare manually or if there was a special entry for ticketing.
I believe you do -2last/first/exst
SSR is 3EXST/ freetext
Not sure about pricing. Maybe there is a PDT in FF
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Phase IV on August 11, 2016, 10:51:05 AM
Thank you chff and Chaikel!
I remember doing it this way last time.
Now I just need to figure out how to do the ticketing.
I know I can ask Elal to book the extra seat, but I'd rather have control of the booking.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 11, 2016, 11:19:04 AM
Thank you chff and Chaikel!
I remember doing it this way last time.
Now I just need to figure out how to do the ticketing.
I know I can ask Elal to book the extra seat, but I'd rather have control of the booking.

You do the booking, together with the pax - I think LY has to do the extra seat "TICKET"
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 24, 2016, 01:28:57 PM
I have a Q # to request seating by Elal   QE/TLVLY059S/35  (1A user)
but no one is lookin at it lately,  is anyone aware of a new Q#?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 24, 2016, 02:01:40 PM
I have a Q # to request seating by Elal   QE/TLVLY059S/35  (1A user)
but no one is lookin at it lately,  is anyone aware of a new Q#?
Lately as in past few days, or few weeks/months
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 24, 2016, 02:32:29 PM
Lately as in past few days, or few weeks/months
   a few weeks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 24, 2016, 03:13:49 PM
   a few weeks
Interesting. I thought they were just rejecting my requests made in Sabre. I wonder what's going on
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 24, 2016, 03:17:29 PM
Interesting. I thought they were just rejecting my requests made in Sabre. I wonder what's going on
Interesting. I thought they were just rejecting my requests made in Sabre. I wonder what's going on
I realized that it takes now at least 2 days to get seats assigned when doing a bassinet request,  maybe they are just short with agents  ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 25, 2016, 06:19:12 PM
I realized that it takes now at least 2 days to get seats assigned when doing a bassinet request,  maybe they are just short with agents  ;)
My suspicion is that they're overworked reseating everyone on the wet leases
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 04, 2016, 03:44:46 PM
I have an American operated flight to FCO booked as IB code share. Continued to TLV with LY. Return is from TLV via MAD all on IB metal. How can I get AA record locator?

In Amadeus.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 04, 2016, 04:03:37 PM
I have an American operated flight to FCO booked as IB code share. Continued to TLV with LY. Return is from TLV via MAD all on IB metal. How can I get AA record locator?

In Amadeus.
Add a random AA flight to the PNR and rf;er
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on September 04, 2016, 04:06:56 PM
Or try with Amadeus reloc. Should work
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 04, 2016, 04:23:38 PM
Add a random AA flight to the PNR and rf;er
ah.  Nice idea.  Will try.

Or try with Amadeus reloc. Should work
I should try using the Amadeus PNR for AA or you meant I should do RL?

RL only brought up the IB and LY pnr
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on September 04, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
Try using the Amadeus RL on AA.com.  works with me by LY flights
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 04, 2016, 04:28:52 PM
That's because LY uses Amadeus. AA doesn't
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on September 04, 2016, 04:30:16 PM
I meant to say  when I book AA flights with LY,  just give a try
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 04, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
I meant to say  when I book AA flights with LY,  just give a try
Did not work...
Add a random AA flight to the PNR and rf;er
That worked but I can not select seats for the AA flight. That is the main reason I need the AA record.

When I try to open the SM in Amadeus I get SEAT MAP NOT AVAILABLE AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY ANOTHER CARRIER
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 04, 2016, 05:19:32 PM
Did not work...That worked but I can not select seats for the AA flight. That is the main reason I need the AA record.

When I try to open the SM in Amadeus I get SEAT MAP NOT AVAILABLE AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY ANOTHER CARRIER
Can you select seats on AA.com?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 04, 2016, 06:03:15 PM
Can you select seats on AA.com?
No
https://gyazo.com/b7c4b4cbba556e62d0eb5a47452d5133
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 05, 2016, 09:08:21 PM
Update:

Adding a AA random segment was a good idea in theory but the AA PNR you get does not help. It's not the PNR you are looking for.

What you have to do is call IB and they will give you the AA PNR you need. You can also call up AA with flight info and they will provide PNR. In that PNR I was able to select seats etc.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 05, 2016, 09:17:07 PM
Update:

Adding a AA random segment was a good idea in theory but the AA PNR you get does not help. It's not the PNR you are looking for.

What you have to do is call IB and they will give you the AA PNR you need. You can also call up AA with flight info and they will provide PNR. In that PNR I was able to select seats etc.
Just saying, when you book LX4220 (for example) LY doesn't have the PNR till like 72 hours prior to the flight
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 05, 2016, 10:33:44 PM
Interesting. I would think that the PNR is being born right away when the original PNR is being created it just takes time to show up for LY.

Thanks chff for everything!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Alexsei on September 26, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
Can a travel agent combine separate tickets under one record locator and one e-ticket #?
The reason why I'm asking is because my friend just showed me a ticket booked by a travel agent it shows as one ticket online but he is intentionaly expected to skip one leg, if it's all one ticket it is my understanding that the rest will be voided?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 26, 2016, 09:06:55 PM
Can a travel agent combine separate tickets under one record locator and one e-ticket #?
The reason why I'm asking is because my friend just showed me a ticket booked by a travel agent it shows as one ticket online but he is intentionaly expected to skip one leg, if it's all one ticket it is my understanding that the rest will be voided?

Can not split a a ticket
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Alexsei on September 26, 2016, 09:09:05 PM
Can not split a a ticket
Question is if it is possible that it is indeed two separate tickets which missing the last leg of 1 will not affect the other but the agent somehow combined it under one record/ticket#
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on September 26, 2016, 11:48:16 PM
A travel agent can book several tickets under one PNR if that was your question.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: HolyNyc on October 20, 2016, 04:06:07 AM
I need help issuing a infant in Sabre on an existing ticket (doesn't price anymore)
TIA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on October 20, 2016, 04:22:22 AM
I need help issuing a infant in Sabre on an existing ticket (doesn't price anymore)
TIA

Issue with manual fare basis, or issue in new PNR and call airline to attach. Some airlines allow you to attach in Sabre with 3TKNM/ command
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 20, 2016, 10:59:52 AM
Issue with manual fare basis, or issue in new PNR and call airline to attach. Some airlines allow you to attach in Sabre with 3TKNM/ command
Just be aware you can get a memo for back pricing.

I did a separate PNR for a UA inf (parents were on an award ticket issued by SQ) it took me around 4 phone calls and 2 hours later they exchanged my ticket to an airline issued and then attached it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on October 20, 2016, 04:55:34 PM
Just be aware you can get a memo for back pricing.

I did a separate PNR for a UA inf (parents were on an award ticket issued by SQ) it took me around 4 phone calls and 2 hours later they exchanged my ticket to an airline issued and then attached it
DL has been exchanging my INFs as well lately. But usually takes about 15 minutes. Probably less of a chance for ADM as well
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 03, 2016, 08:57:59 PM
Anyone by the ElAl party?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 10, 2016, 02:50:42 PM
I have a LY record going to exp today, I added a Y segment for next year it came in a new message that it exp 16 Nov but the 10 Nov exp message  is still there. Does that mean it will exp today or 16 Nov?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 10, 2016, 03:00:16 PM
I have a LY record going to exp today, I added a Y segment for next year it came in a new message that it exp 16 Nov but the 10 Nov exp message  is still there. Does that mean it will exp today or 16 Nov?


SSR msgs are not removed by the system
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 11, 2016, 05:37:52 AM
I have a LY record going to exp today, I added a Y segment for next year it came in a new message that it exp 16 Nov but the 10 Nov exp message  is still there. Does that mean it will exp today or 16 Nov?
Did it expire?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 18, 2016, 10:24:07 AM
UA flight number, operated by SN, issued on UA ticket stock. Who can select seats?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 20, 2016, 07:22:56 AM
UA flight number, operated by SN, issued on UA ticket stock. Who can select seats?
I believe none. Only at check-in.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on November 20, 2016, 07:44:07 AM
UA flight number, operated by SN, issued on UA ticket stock. Who can select seats?
try on lufthansa.com it sometimes works for me
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 21, 2016, 03:04:16 PM
I believe none. Only at check-in.
>:(  at Chk in on SN website I will be able to select seats?
try on lufthansa.com it sometimes works for me
Using which PNR?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 21, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
>:(  at Chk in on SN website I will be able to select seats?
Yes.

Using which PNR?
LH and SN usually have the same PNR
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 21, 2016, 03:39:30 PM
LH and SN usually have the same PNR

and LX / LY will ALWAYS have the same PNR
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 21, 2016, 04:07:11 PM
and LX / LY will ALWAYS have the same PNR
You can pull up a reservation on elal.com with the LX PNR? I've never been able to do that
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 21, 2016, 04:24:45 PM
You can pull up a reservation on elal.com with the LX PNR? I've never been able to do that
Same PNR but it's restricted from them
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on November 22, 2016, 12:20:39 PM
 here needs inventory for tmrw Direct to TLV to reprotect pax from LY28?

I have limited seats in J with DL and Ua. Pm before I release them.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: KidOOO on December 27, 2016, 11:35:59 AM
I need the assistance of an experienced travel agent regarding a visa issue. Please PM me if you have a few minutes to help out.

Thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on January 07, 2017, 10:37:38 PM
1) What is the best way to learn Sabre?
2) How long does it take to learn Sabre?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 07, 2017, 11:14:23 PM
1) What is the best way to learn Sabre?
2) How long does it take to learn Sabre?

Trainer, read manuals
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 08, 2017, 12:01:56 AM
1) What is the best way to learn Sabre?
2) How long does it take to learn Sabre?
learn Amadeus. Much nicer and easier.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on January 08, 2017, 12:03:52 AM
learn Amadeus. Much nicer and easier.
I am trying to land a job in the industry. It seems that almost all jobs require Sabre.
How much would it cost to hire a trainer to the learn the whole shpiel?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 08, 2017, 12:15:08 AM
learn Amadeus. Much nicer and easier.

Each one has its own uniqueness.

I am trying to land a job in the industry. It seems that almost all jobs require Sabre.
How much would it cost to hire a trainer to the learn the whole shpiel?

Job in the industry, who even wants to join us...??

Get a Sabre Login, and they have a free play along online trainer, as well lots of clear manuals etc. Without Sabre, there is no way you will master it. Are you a TA and trying to learn Sabre, or do you need TA training to begin with? You need to understand PNRs/Fares ETC, and then move on to a GDS like Sabre which is a tool
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on January 08, 2017, 12:19:52 AM
Each one has its own uniqueness.

Job in the industry, who even wants to join us...??

Get a Sabre Login, and they have a free play along online trainer, as well lots of clear manuals etc. Without Sabre, there is no way you will master it. Are you a TA and trying to learn Sabre, or do you need TA training to begin with? You need to understand PNRs/Fares ETC, and then move on to a GDS like Sabre which is a tool
I am not a TA. I just feel like that I have all this knowledge from traveling and experiences that I am looking to monetize it.
Eventually once I am settled and after a few years I have a travel related business idea I would like to capitalize on. But first I need to work for someone.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 08, 2017, 01:43:27 AM
learn Amadeus. Much nicer and easier.
Amadeus failed me lately on some fares etc
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 19, 2017, 10:37:06 AM
as Delta & AmericanAir block all Aisle/Window seats as preferred, both regular & basic economy fares means you get the same middle seat
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yelped on January 19, 2017, 11:25:14 AM
as Delta & AmericanAir block all Aisle/Window seats as preferred, both regular & basic economy fares means you get the same middle seat
Crazy. Nothing can be done about that? How low can they go in an effort to squeeze out every last dollar from consumers?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on January 28, 2017, 10:19:18 PM
I interviewed at a travel agency and I was offer a position. It seems to me that their compensation package is absurd. Can you fellas chime in and let me know what the industry standard is?:

Dear ad120,

In regards to your question about the salary, there is no definite number that I can tell you or even a definite amount of time that I can prescribe to the training period. It is all based on productivity and how the job is filled. You have a lot of experience with travel itself (Amadeus); however, the platform is what you will need to learn and it may take time. However, I have no doubts that if you are very determined and focused you can learn it well in a short amount of time, and show us proof that you are an asset to the company. The initial $500 may only last a few weeks; it all depends on you! As discussed, the first week is a trial period and is unpaid. For you, this is an opportunity to try out the job and see if it meets your expectations, and if it is something that you would enjoy. Office hours are 9:30-6, Monday through Thursday and 9:30-1:30 on Friday. On Sunday you would be here from 11-1.

Can you please speak about work-life balance and company culture?
Company culture is a bit of a broad question, but I can tell you as follows: our team of agents are all hard workers and high achievers. This means being in the office every day that we're open, taking calls at home in emergencies, and in general doing everything necessary to keep the business running smoothly. However, it is not a take home job, meaning you are not required to work from home after hours. In general the management is very understanding of personal needs. For example, if you need to schedule an appointment, of course it is best to schedule it after hours. If however this is unavoidable, of course you would be able to leave work to go to an appointment. Everyone has lives outside of work that they need to attend to.

Are there any benefits packages working at your company?
The greatest benefits that our office offers is the environment and the worker-manger relationship. It is a small office and everyone operates individually as a part of a larger team. In regards to concrete benefits, the boss is here to negotiate with his workers so that he is happy with them, but more importantly, they are happy with him. This means that if certain hours really don't work for you and it is a deal breaker, then an alternative can be discussed. After the initial beginning, where a worker is largely learning the nuances of our specific business, many things can be open to discussion, such as salary (as previously discussed) and even hours. Another bonus is overtime payment. The accountant in charge of payroll keeps careful track of overtime and adjusts payment accordingly.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: David Smith on January 28, 2017, 10:21:23 PM
The job is for the internship. After you learn the system and realities of the industry, you can decide where to take it. It definitely isn't for everyone.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on January 28, 2017, 10:28:08 PM
The job is for the internship. After you learn the system and realities of the industry, you can decide where to take it. It definitely isn't for everyone.
its a heimishe company. no interns. lol
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: David Smith on January 28, 2017, 10:29:48 PM
its a heimishe company. no interns. lol
"Unpaid trial training period." Call it what you'd like.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on January 28, 2017, 10:48:23 PM
"Unpaid trial training period." Call it what you'd like.
okay then. What is the average starting salary then?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on January 29, 2017, 09:17:06 PM
Is it easy to learn Sabre once you know Amadeus?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 29, 2017, 09:24:44 PM
Is it easy to learn Sabre once you know Amadeus?

You basically need to get the concept of the GDS, and then you have to learn the formats of each system, but the basics is the same.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 23, 2017, 09:30:12 PM
What do you guys say to this tweet?

Quote
@KolHaolam: NEW YORK: Norwegian Air today announced it will offer nonstop flights to Europe that initially will go on sale for as little as $65 one way.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on February 23, 2017, 11:45:30 PM
What do you guys say to this tweet?
Brooklynites: "Yes I would like to fly this summer. But not from Newark, it is too far. Newburgh? That is in Long Island, right?"
As per KJ, with no connections to Israel or London I don't think they will run to fly from SWF.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 23, 2017, 11:49:41 PM


Brooklynites: "Yes I would like to fly this summer. But not from Newark, it is too far. Newburgh? That is in Long Island, right?"
As per KJ, with no connections to Israel or London I don't think they will run to fly from SWF.

Not sure you have my point. Kol Haloam many times tweets stuff with half of the details missing. So someone forwarded me this tweet very excited, "new airline cheap non-stop to Europe, I want to book some", well, hold one, they are not new, and the keys points of this deal are missing in this tweet
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on February 23, 2017, 11:58:16 PM

Not sure you have my point. Kol Haloam many times tweets stuff with half of the details missing. So someone forwarded me this tweet very excited, "new airline cheap non-stop to Europe, I want to book some", well, hold one, they are not new, and the keys points of this deal are missing in this tweet
Click bait. They want the retweets.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 22, 2017, 11:06:44 AM
AC joining the paid ASR club
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Joe4007 on March 22, 2017, 12:44:20 PM
as Delta & AmericanAir block all Aisle/Window seats as preferred, both regular & basic economy fares means you get the same middle seat
I guess you meant that as a general rule, as there are certainly Aisle/Window seats available sometimes.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on May 03, 2017, 06:04:42 PM
Does anyone have the SSR format for Asian vegetarian meals in Amadeus?
cant find it in Esupport
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 03, 2017, 06:05:41 PM
Does anyone have the SSR format for Asian vegetarian meals in Amadeus?
cant find it in Esupport

For which airline?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on May 03, 2017, 06:11:39 PM
TK
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 03, 2017, 06:16:15 PM
HE MEAL, MS 22
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on May 03, 2017, 06:24:26 PM
Asian is not there.
and TK has it avail on their Website
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on May 05, 2017, 03:21:41 PM
HE MEAL, MS 22
There is a format for special meal request :
SRSPML-Asian Vegetarian (etc.)

SSR SPML TK HN2 ASIAN VEGETARIAN/S3 


nice format that can be useful ...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 05, 2017, 03:43:38 PM
There is a format for special meal request :
SRSPML-Asian Vegetarian (etc.)


nice format that can be useful ...
SPML is a request free flow, it's then up to the airline to KK or UC.
You can put whatever, like SPML-CHULENT WITH KUGEL CRC
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on May 05, 2017, 03:50:10 PM
SPML is a request free flow, it's then up to the airline to KK or UC.
You can put whatever, like SPML-CHULENT WITH KUGEL CRC
Yup  :(
SSR SPML TK UN2 ASIAN VEGETARIAN/S3

But still weird as its one of their options on website, i did it there.. but would like to have it in 1A
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 17, 2017, 05:26:59 PM
What are Amadeus guys doing? Everyone switching to connect?(web based) I got an email that they are going to discontinue seller platform soon. So annoying.

My rep told me she will allow me to continue using selling platform but eventually they are going to discontinue it.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 17, 2017, 05:30:06 PM
What are Amadeus guys doing? Everyone switching to connect?(web based) I got an email that they are going to discontinue seller platform soon. So annoying.

My rep told me she will allow me to continue using selling platform but eventually they are going to discontinue it.

Even 1A dev thinks it flawed but that's life. As they couldn't figure out the jump/bridge part, I told them when they switch i'm switching to 1S
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 17, 2017, 08:32:06 PM
Even 1A dev thinks it flawed but that's life. As they couldn't figure out the jump/bridge part, I told them when they switch i'm switching to 1S
same here. That's why she said I can stay with selling platform. Will the online version not be as good as the program? I'm afraid but may be it's good?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 17, 2017, 08:32:57 PM
same here. That's why she said I can stay with selling platform. Will the online version not be as good as the program? I'm afraid but may be it's good?

Hopefully it will be good, now its not....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 26, 2017, 11:37:40 AM
BA adding 8€ surcharge for GDS booking in Nov
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on June 07, 2017, 01:25:03 PM
Does any one have any good theory or explanation why LY is delaying literally every JFK flight for the past few days ?
this is already driving me nuts, what the heck is wrong with them?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 07, 2017, 01:28:06 PM
Does any one have any good theory or explanation why LY is delaying literally every JFK flight for the past few days ?
this is already driving me nuts, what the heck is wrong with them?
http://avherald.com/h?article=4a9eff28&opt=0 (http://avherald.com/h?article=4a9eff28&opt=0)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on June 07, 2017, 01:34:22 PM
http://avherald.com/h?article=4a9eff28&opt=0 (http://avherald.com/h?article=4a9eff28&opt=0)
Still doesn't explain why EVERY JFK flight is delayed with 4-7 hours
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ad120 on June 07, 2017, 03:11:28 PM
Does any one have any good theory or explanation why LY is delaying literally every JFK flight for the past few days ?
this is already driving me nuts, what the heck is right with them?
FTFY
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on June 07, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
FTFY
;) ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 07, 2017, 05:21:23 PM
As they couldn't figure out the jump/bridge part, I told them when they switch i'm switching to 1S

Looks like they figured out this part - waiting for conf
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on June 07, 2017, 05:43:14 PM
Looks like they figured out this part - waiting for conf
Oiy so this means everyone will have to go over to web based? No excuses? If so..

I told them when they switch i'm switching to 1S
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on June 07, 2017, 05:44:43 PM
Oiy so this means everyone will have to go over to web based? No excuses? If so..

They will be dropping the desktop based
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on June 08, 2017, 07:40:25 PM
Anyone any experience with assigning seats on CZ ?
Don't book that often, but when i do - i always have trouble with seat assignment, as i never manage to pull up the PNR on their website
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: elya on June 08, 2017, 08:00:51 PM
Does any one have any good theory or explanation why LY is delaying literally every JFK flight for the past few days ?
this is already driving me nuts, what the heck is wrong with them?
I wonder if it is because their being very lax with their maintenance on their older aircraft due to the impending shipments of their new ones..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on June 20, 2017, 09:50:55 AM
So I discovered by accident yesterday that by adding a "." after an airline code in an availability search it excludes non direct and codeshares.
Does anyone know how to exclude codeshares, but include connecting options?
What other such codes am I not aware of?

Code: [Select]
113JULTLVZRH‡LX«                                               
 13JUL  THU   TLV/Z‡3     ZRH/-1                               
1LX     253 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 TLVZRH  405P  715P 333 M 0 DCA /E   
            Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V1 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0                 
2LX/LY 4221 J2 C2 D1 Z0 P0 TLVZRH  800A 1130A 738 B 0 XJ DCA /E
            Y5 B3 M1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0                 
3LX     257 J9 C9 D9 Z8 P2 TLVZRH  450A  810A 333 B 0 DCA /E   
            Y9 B9 M9 U9 H2 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0                 
4LX/LY 4231 J1 C1 D0 Z0 P0 TLVGVA  620A  955A 738 B 0 XJ DCA /E
            Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0                 
5LX    2809 J1 C1 D0 Z0 P0    ZRH 1100A 1155A 320 R 0 Q DCA /E 
            Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0.               
113JULTLVZRH‡LX.«                                               
 13JUL  THU   TLV/Z‡3     ZRH/-1                               
1LX  253 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 TLVZRH  405P  715P 333 M 0 DCA /E
         M9 U9 H9 Q9 V1 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0                         
2LX  257 J9 C9 D9 Z8 P2 Y9 B9 TLVZRH  450A  810A 333 B 0 DCA /E
         M9 U9 H1 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0                         
NO MORE LX. 
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on July 26, 2017, 10:14:12 PM
I'm using a new PCC now, and when viewing a PNR it doesn't show the recloc at the top like it has in the past, anyone know how to enable this?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on July 26, 2017, 10:16:53 PM
I'm using a new PCC now, and when viewing a PNR it doesn't show the recloc at the top like it has in the past, anyone know how to enable this?

1A or 1S?

ETA - I see you are asking for Sabre - first thing when you search PNR TOP in FF - W/RLOCTOP‡ON

For 1A - to show the airline locator you have to enable "EAS"
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on July 26, 2017, 10:54:22 PM
1A or 1S?

ETA - I see you are asking for Sabre - first thing when you search PNR TOP in FF - W/RLOCTOP‡ON

For 1A - to show the airline locator you have to enable "EAS"

thanks, didn't think a search would work.
next q, how do you change 0 to C or L in a CPA search?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on July 26, 2017, 11:51:05 PM
thanks, didn't think a search would work.
next q, how do you change 0 to C or L in a CPA search?
W/WLISTĄON
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on July 27, 2017, 10:20:22 AM
W/WLISTĄON

thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
1A users: are you setup with Connect already? Any feedback you want to share?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 09:56:29 PM
1A users: are you setup with Connect already? Any feedback you want to share?
Using both.
It's a nightmare so far
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 10:05:46 PM
Using both.
It's a nightmare so far

Whats are the drawbacks?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 10:16:04 PM
Whats are the drawbacks?

This is what i wrote to my sales Rep a few weeks ago...

Not easy to explain, but someone who uses Command page understands, it simple :-[.  Im telling you everyone i know is complaining.

Display - was much brighter and easier to maneuver in a PNR   
Very slow loading vs the old platform
Loading the seat map and other ancillary services is not so nice and simple as before
Smart keys - 1. no public smart keys  2. cant store keyboard shortcuts for smart key 3. you dont have the smart keys bar on top

And to sum it up as i wrote in beginning, hard to explain, but someone who works on command page  understands it …
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 10:18:37 PM
This is what i wrote to my sales Rep a few weeks ago...

Not easy to explain, but someone who uses Command page understands, it simple :-[.  Im telling you everyone i know is complaining.

Display - was much brighter and easier to maneuver in a PNR   
Very slow loading vs the old platform
Loading the seat map and other ancillary services is not so nice and simple as before
Smart keys - 1. no public smart keys  2. cant store keyboard shortcuts for smart key 3. you dont have the smart keys bar on top

And to sum it up as i wrote in beginning, hard to explain, but someone who works on command page  understands it …


The seatmap they had the connect version over to classic and it was a major messup....

Who is your rep? NG? MD? DB?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 10:19:05 PM
Whats are the drawbacks?

This is my opinion CMIIW ..
They focused on improving graphical display with out having command page users in mind.

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 10:20:16 PM

The seatmap they had the connect version over to classic and it was a major messup....

Who is your rep? NG? MD? DB?

Thats right. remember those few days?  this is how it looks in connect

My rep is MD
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 10:22:47 PM
Thats right. remember those few days?  this is how it looks in connect

My rep is MD

I remember.......

Bottom line - connect is here to stay - best would be to send feedback as much as possible hopefully they improve it asap

Got any bridges setup already?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 10:29:39 PM
I remember.......

Bottom line - connect is here to stay - best would be to send feedback as much as possible hopefully they improve it asap

Got any bridges setup already?


Not yet.. 
Its also a whole story, both parties have to sign a whole form. gone are those days where you could just do a RMO command

Its interesting cause i was told that my classic platform would stop working but a month has passed and its still working.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 10:34:47 PM

The seatmap they had the connect version over to classic and it was a major messup....

Who is your rep? NG? MD? DB?
By the way I know 2 reps with MD initials.
So not sure to which you were referring
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 10:36:13 PM
By the way I know 2 reps with MD initials.
So not sure to which you were referring

I guess you have the one in YYZ....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 10:36:38 PM

Not yet.. 
Its also a whole story, both parties have to sign a whole form. gone are those days where you could just do a RMO command

Its interesting cause i was told that my classic platform would stop working but a month has passed and its still working.

That's why I got my bridges rolling so i'm not stuck later with this
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 02, 2017, 10:38:33 PM
That's why I got my bridges rolling so i'm not stuck later with this
החכם עיניו בראשו
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 11:16:27 PM
So this is where the marshals sit?

Code: [Select]
SM LY 0026/U/25JUNEWRTLV                                 /S000/                 
SM LY  0026  U 25JUN EWRTLV        789                                         
                                                                               
SEAT NUMBER:           23C                                                     
RESTRICTED:            Y                                                       
SEAT OCCUPATION:       Seat Blocked; Other Load (Z)                             
SEAT CHARACTERISTICS:  Aisle Seat (A)                                           
                       Electronic connection for laptop or FAX machine (EC)     
                       Overwing Seat (OW)                                       
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on August 02, 2017, 11:30:54 PM
Why did you guys start using connect? My rep assured me that classic is staying for a while. I told her I am on to Sabre if it goes web based. 

BTW MD from YYZ does not take new accounts AFAIK. My current rep is JF from Rhode Island.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 02, 2017, 11:35:20 PM
Why did you guys start using connect?

I have connect since it came out as a backup - setting up now fully to be ready for the switch

My rep assured me that classic is staying for a while.

I keep on hearing switched off by the year's end
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 12:09:58 AM
Why did you guys start using connect? My rep assured me that classic is staying for a while. I told her I am on to Sabre if it goes web based. 

BTW MD from YYZ does not take new accounts AFAIK. My current rep is JF from Rhode Island.
I think JF doesn't take new accounts as well .  This is what she told me, dunno if true
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on August 03, 2017, 12:42:00 AM
I think JF doesn't take new accounts as well .  This is what she told me, dunno if true
Yeh. You are right.  She is nicest Amadeus rep ever BTW.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 03, 2017, 12:46:29 AM
Yeh. You are right.  She is nicest Amadeus rep ever BTW.
Who is?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 01:03:12 AM
Yeh. You are right.  She is nicest Amadeus rep ever BTW.
+1000
Who is?
JF from Rhode island
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 03, 2017, 01:06:27 AM
+1000JF from Rhode island
You have JF or MD? And JF is better then MD?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 01:07:31 AM
You have JF or MD? And JF is better then MD?
Some people know a few
And yes no one like JF
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 03, 2017, 01:08:17 AM
Some people know a few
Guessed so... So why not 4? ;-)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 01:13:37 AM
Guessed so... So why not 4? ;-)
3 is more than enough
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 03, 2017, 01:18:19 AM
3 is more than enough
I'm losing track already...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 01:20:39 AM
I'm losing track already...
LOL
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 07:14:51 PM
Had a pax who purchased an EMD for a seat, and then changed the flight.
Usually, they see the attached EMD # in PNR and make no issue, but this time they asked him to pay again for it.
This is what LY replied.. Are they right?


Thank you for contacting El Al Customer Relations Tel Aviv; and, I apologize for my delayed response.
 
First and foremost, I would like to thank you for offering our airline to your clients.
 
I am sorry for the inconvenience your customer Mr. ###### experienced because he had to pay for an EMD valued at 150USD twice.
 
The rules of an EMD is that once issued it is non-refundable and not valid on other flights. Therefore, seeing as he made the change to his flight, in order to have an Economy Plus seat on the new flight booked, he had to purchase another EMD valued at $150.
 
Once again thank you for contacting EL AL, and we look forward to welcoming your customers onboard our Airline in the future.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 03, 2017, 07:26:27 PM
Had a pax who purchased an EMD for a seat, and then changed the flight.
Usually, they see the attached EMD # in PNR and make no issue, but this time they asked him to pay again for it.
This is what LY replied.. Are they right?


Thank you for contacting El Al Customer Relations Tel Aviv; and, I apologize for my delayed response.
 
First and foremost, I would like to thank you for offering our airline to your clients.
 
I am sorry for the inconvenience your customer Mr. ###### experienced because he had to pay for an EMD valued at 150USD twice.
 
The rules of an EMD is that once issued it is non-refundable and not valid on other flights. Therefore, seeing as he made the change to his flight, in order to have an Economy Plus seat on the new flight booked, he had to purchase another EMD valued at $150.
 
Once again thank you for contacting EL AL, and we look forward to welcoming your customers onboard our Airline in the future.
Its not refundable but can be used for another flight, I always ask ticketing to revalidate
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
Its not refundable but can be used for another flight, I always ask ticketing to revalidate

Never thought of asking for reval, good idea to avoid trouble
Its the first time they asked to pay again

Is there any place where I can find the exact rules so I can prove that they are wrong?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 03, 2017, 07:39:30 PM
Never thought of asking for reval, good idea to avoid trouble
Its the first time they asked to pay again

Is there any place where I can find the exact rules so I can prove that they are wrong?
HUCA or just email ticketing that they should refund it..
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on August 03, 2017, 08:39:21 PM
HUCA or just email ticketing that they should refund it..
+1

Just email ticketing. What a bunch of a$$ oles their customer relations.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on August 03, 2017, 08:56:35 PM
HUCA or just email ticketing that they should refund it..
+1

Just email ticketing. What a bunch of a$$ oles their customer relations.
Ty
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on August 03, 2017, 09:48:50 PM
IME, at least in Sabre when you cancel the segment, the EMD drops the flight info, and shows an open segment. Don't know if it's auto-revalidated, but everytime I've called LY they've seen it attached. I recently did an exchange to a different PNR (the LY PNR had expired), and emailed ticketing. Was revalidated right away
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on August 09, 2017, 12:23:11 PM
I emailed my sales representative that agents tolde they will be switching to Sabre if classic is indeed discontinued. This is what she replied. True or BS?

All GDS will be changing the architecture of their systems. Everything is going web-based. We are just ahead of the game. If agents go to SABRE they

will be coming across the same thing in the near future.

I have always found travel agents do not like change at all (I was a travel agent for a long time and I was the same way).

They will see the formats are exactly the same-the screen just looks different. It actually looks more like it did before Selling Platform Classic and agents

did not like that change either.

I will work with you to make sure everything is ok.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on August 09, 2017, 01:02:29 PM
for my curiosity and that of other Sabre users, can you post a before and after screenshot of the new and old 1A?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 09, 2017, 02:15:49 PM
for my curiosity and that of other Sabre users, can you post a before and after screenshot of the new and old 1A?


Tried to find something on YT - only found advertisements showing happy clients  :-X :-X but none of the actual cryptic product...

Classic Ver:

Connect Ver
(Go to 0:32)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on August 17, 2017, 10:02:48 AM
J2 doesn't seem to be working in Sabre. Is it working in Amadeus?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 17, 2017, 10:04:13 AM
J2 doesn't seem to be working in Sabre. Is it working in Amadeus?
Yes. I emailed J2 and will post an update if I get one.

My guess, just like PS they couldn't pay the bills...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on August 17, 2017, 10:06:21 AM
Yes. I emailed J2 and will post an update if I get one.

My guess, just like PS they couldn't pay the bills...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 17, 2017, 10:48:38 AM
1S kicked them out over a dispute
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on August 17, 2017, 11:13:42 AM
:(
You heard that from J2 or Sabre?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 17, 2017, 11:20:15 AM
:(
You heard that from J2 or Sabre?

J2
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: AsherO on August 18, 2017, 05:03:58 PM
Hoping someone here can answer this (and then I'll move it to somewhere it fits better), thanks in advance.

I booked TLV-JFK/LGA-PIT-LGA/JFK-TLV using a points website that books rev. LY is the issuing/ticketing carrier, the domestic legs are operated by AA.

AA PNR shows all four segments, but LY PNR is missing LGA-PIT.

Agency and AA are saying that leg is good to go, LY phone rep told me that segment is "informative" and passengers won't be able to fly that leg the way things are now.

Do you think this is an issue, and if yes, how do you suggest I resolve it?

Canceling and booking again is no longer possible because now it's pricing higher and don't want to pay the higher fare for all the passengers on the PNR.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 18, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
Hoping someone here can answer this (and then I'll move it to somewhere it fits better), thanks in advance.

I booked TLV-JFK/LGA-PIT-LGA/JFK-TLV using a points website that books rev. LY is the issuing/ticketing carrier, the domestic legs are operated by AA.

AA PNR shows all four segments, but LY PNR is missing LGA-PIT.

Agency and AA are saying that leg is good to go, LY phone rep told me that segment is "informative" and passengers won't be able to fly that leg the way things are now.

Do you think this is an issue, and if yes, how do you suggest I resolve it?

Canceling and booking again is no longer possible because now it's pricing higher and don't want to pay the higher fare for all the passengers on the PNR.

All four are on the same ticket?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: AsherO on August 20, 2017, 07:55:26 AM
All four are on the same ticket?

I believe so, yes.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: AsherO on August 21, 2017, 11:44:43 AM
I believe so, yes.

@chff Your input would be very much appreciated :)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 21, 2017, 11:45:35 AM
@chff Your input would be very much appreciated :)

PM your LY PNR - full name and ticket number and ill try to decode
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: AsherO on August 21, 2017, 12:38:44 PM
PM your LY PNR - full name and ticket number and ill try to decode

Thanks man, PM'd.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on August 22, 2017, 07:43:35 AM
Hoping someone here can answer this (and then I'll move it to somewhere it fits better), thanks in advance.

I booked TLV-JFK/LGA-PIT-LGA/JFK-TLV using a points website that books rev. LY is the issuing/ticketing carrier, the domestic legs are operated by AA.

AA PNR shows all four segments, but LY PNR is missing LGA-PIT.

Agency and AA are saying that leg is good to go, LY phone rep told me that segment is "informative" and passengers won't be able to fly that leg the way things are now.

Do you think this is an issue, and if yes, how do you suggest I resolve it?

Canceling and booking again is no longer possible because now it's pricing higher and don't want to pay the higher fare for all the passengers on the PNR.
it happens a lot with bookings issued on sabre for flights with ba and aa where the Amadeus pnr is missing some segments especially if there was a schedule change for the aa segment so it only updates the sabre pnr and leaves the Amadeus one as is
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: AsherO on August 22, 2017, 07:46:15 AM
Thanks chff and a mirrer!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: YED on September 28, 2017, 06:43:53 AM
Anyone else having problems with 1A now, (US based is giving me "service unavailable" while ISR based connect is fine)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on September 28, 2017, 08:03:29 AM
Anyone else having problems with 1A now, (US based is giving me "service unavailable" while ISR based connect is fine)
1A is going on and off today major delays in airports using Altea checkin services which is Amadeus based
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 28, 2017, 09:23:14 AM
Amadeus Connectivity issues resolved

Posted 09/28/2017 07:35 in category System Technical and Maintenance

**RESOLVED** Amadeus Hosted carriers experienced connectivity issues. Sabre customers might have received pending status when trying to sell, Unconfirmed status (UC) when ending the record. They might also got ETR UNAVAILABLE responses when trying to display electronic tickets, or the error 999, when trying to issue tickets. This might affected Air France, Air Baltic, British Airways, Iberia, Qantas, Qatar Airways, Lufthansa, Scandinavian Airlines, among other Amadeus airlines. This has been resolved.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 03, 2017, 11:45:08 PM
PS is upgrading

Code: [Select]
AN01MAYJFKKBP/APS -MY-                                                         
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** KBP BORYSPIL INTL.UA         210 TU 01MAY 0000 
 1   PS 232  C9 D9 Z9 F9 S9 E9 K9 /JFK 7 KBP   1230A    520P  E0/767       9:50
             H9 L9 V9 M9 Q9 N9 B9 T4 GL W9 Y9 P9                               

AN02MAYJFKKBP/APS -MN-                                                         
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** KBP BORYSPIL INTL.UA         211 WE 02MAY 0000 
 1   PS 232  C9 D9 Z9 F9 S9 E9 K9 /JFK 7 KBP   1230A    520P  E0/777       9:50
             H9 L9 V9 M9 Q9 N9 B9 T9 GL W9 Y9 P9   
         

Code: [Select]
DOPS232/02MAY/JFKKBP                                                           
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              PS 232  210 WE 02MAY18                   
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                 
JFK          0030  WE CDZFSEKHLVM/H       777         9:50                     
                      QNBTGWYP/H                                               
KBP 1720  WE                                                9:50               
                                                                               
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.JFK KBP   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 7                                               
 2.JFK KBP   - MCT FLIGHT TRACKING I/I                                         
 3.JFK KBP   -   9/ NON-SMOKING                                                 
 4.JFK KBP   - SECURED FLIGHT                                                   
 5.JFK KBP   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                   
 6.JFK KBP   - FULL PASSPORT DATA IS MANDATORY                                 
 7.JFK KBP   - C0S361                                                           
                                                                               
CONFIGURATION-                                                                 
               777  C  21   W  16   S 324                                       
                   
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 03, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
I emailed my sales representative that agents tolde they will be switching to Sabre if classic is indeed discontinued. This is what she replied. True or BS?

All GDS will be changing the architecture of their systems. Everything is going web-based. We are just ahead of the game. If agents go to SABRE they

will be coming across the same thing in the near future.

I have always found travel agents do not like change at all (I was a travel agent for a long time and I was the same way).

They will see the formats are exactly the same-the screen just looks different. It actually looks more like it did before Selling Platform Classic and agents

did not like that change either.

I will work with you to make sure everything is ok.

What's your status?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 04, 2017, 12:25:58 AM
Up and running. Didn't hear from her lately. What yours?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 04, 2017, 12:26:52 AM
Up and running. Didn't hear from her lately. What yours?

Being pressured to switch
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: YED on October 16, 2017, 03:21:27 PM
Does anyone know how to do a long-sell for two flights (married segments) in one transaction?
Is it possible at all?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on October 16, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Does anyone know how to do a long-sell for two flights (married segments) in one transaction?
Is it possible at all?
Which GDS?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: YED on October 16, 2017, 03:56:19 PM
Which GDS?
Amadeus / Sabre,  prefer Amadeus but have access to both.
Thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on October 17, 2017, 04:01:59 PM
Amadeus / Sabre,  prefer Amadeus but have access to both.
Thanks
Sabre you connect the two with the \ key

0AC 719Y   17OCT LGAYYZ NN1\0AC  33Y   17OCT YYZYVR NN1
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 18, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
Being pressured to switch

Saw this today http://www.amadeus.com/nablog/?p=12984 (http://www.amadeus.com/nablog/?p=12984) and I posted a comment which they didn't put on the website but rather emailed me...

Comment was that if it "Works" then I would love to change
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: shapsam on October 18, 2017, 04:55:32 PM
PS is upgrading

Code: [Select]
AN01MAYJFKKBP/APS -MY-                                                         
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** KBP BORYSPIL INTL.UA         210 TU 01MAY 0000 
 1   PS 232  C9 D9 Z9 F9 S9 E9 K9 /JFK 7 KBP   1230A    520P  E0/767       9:50
             H9 L9 V9 M9 Q9 N9 B9 T4 GL W9 Y9 P9                               

AN02MAYJFKKBP/APS -MN-                                                         
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** KBP BORYSPIL INTL.UA         211 WE 02MAY 0000 
 1   PS 232  C9 D9 Z9 F9 S9 E9 K9 /JFK 7 KBP   1230A    520P  E0/777       9:50
             H9 L9 V9 M9 Q9 N9 B9 T9 GL W9 Y9 P9   
         

Code: [Select]
DOPS232/02MAY/JFKKBP                                                           
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              PS 232  210 WE 02MAY18                   
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                 
JFK          0030  WE CDZFSEKHLVM/H       777         9:50                     
                      QNBTGWYP/H                                               
KBP 1720  WE                                                9:50               
                                                                               
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.JFK KBP   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 7                                               
 2.JFK KBP   - MCT FLIGHT TRACKING I/I                                         
 3.JFK KBP   -   9/ NON-SMOKING                                                 
 4.JFK KBP   - SECURED FLIGHT                                                   
 5.JFK KBP   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                   
 6.JFK KBP   - FULL PASSPORT DATA IS MANDATORY                                 
 7.JFK KBP   - C0S361                                                           
                                                                               
CONFIGURATION-                                                                 
               777  C  21   W  16   S 324                                       
                   
can you see the seat map? will there be F? any flatbed seats?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on October 19, 2017, 02:23:30 AM
can you see the seat map? will there be F? any flatbed seats?
CONFIGURATION-                                                                 
               777  C  21   W  16   S 324
No F
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 09:28:38 AM
Saw this today http://www.amadeus.com/nablog/?p=12984 (http://www.amadeus.com/nablog/?p=12984) and I posted a comment which they didn't put on the website but rather emailed me...

Comment was that if it "Works" then I would love to change
What was response?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 19, 2017, 02:41:13 PM
What was response?

Regular blah blah
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Are you disconnected already?

Can you list the cons of connect?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 19, 2017, 08:26:28 PM
Are you disconnected already?

Can you list the cons of connect?
Not yet, have you tried it? If yes you'll have a list of cons in a sec

Works painfully slow
Smart flows broken for over a week already
C/p doesn't work so good
And a bunch more
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 09:13:03 PM
Not yet, have you tried it? If yes you'll have a list of cons in a sec

Works painfully slow

This would be disastrous.

I have signed up for it in Amadeus direct but I have no idea how to access it. How to sign in etc. Where do I go? Website?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 09:16:36 PM
Found it. Let me try it

https://www.sellingplatformconnect.amadeus.com/LoginService/login.jsp?SITE=LOGINURL&LANGUAGE=GB&appUri=/app_sell2.0/apf/init/login
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 19, 2017, 09:21:31 PM
This would be disastrous.

I have signed up for it in Amadeus direct but I have no idea how to access it. How to sign in etc. Where do I go? Website?
You have a USER ID for connect? It's not the same as Direct
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 09:27:43 PM
And this is the קבלת פנים  ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X

(Using Google Chrome)  "This browser is not supported please use internet explorer"  :-\
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 09:28:31 PM
You have a USER ID for connect? It's not the same as Direct
I signed up for connect in my direct account.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on October 19, 2017, 09:29:31 PM
And this is the קבלת פנים  ::) ::) ::) :-X :-X

(Using Google Chrome)  "This browser is not supported please use internet explorer"  :-\
Ignore it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 09:30:03 PM
I tried jumping in to a different office. First error...

The entered cryptic command is prohibited. (99001)



Errors occurred during the processing of this command
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 19, 2017, 09:34:18 PM
Lol. adnycmia...

And I see these turning dots, what I see on expert flyer when I search award availability. This is not even funny. What's wrong with these people?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 19, 2017, 10:12:10 PM
I tried jumping in to a different office. First error...

The entered cryptic command is prohibited. (99001)



Errors occurred during the processing of this command
You can't jump in connect, it's needs to be setup a different way
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 19, 2017, 10:31:46 PM
can you see the seat map? will there be F? any flatbed seats?

IYH Will be flat
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 20, 2017, 10:51:45 AM
Lol. adnycmia...

And I see these turning dots, what I see on expert flyer when I search award availability. This is not even funny. What's wrong with these people?

So lets hear your feedback
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 20, 2017, 12:38:57 PM
So lets hear your feedback
Exactly as I said, it takes a few seconds to pull up inventory. I really can't work this way. I could use expert flyer for this money... At least if it would not show these thinking dots I wouldn't realize how slow it is...  This was first bummer for me. Also when I hit ignore for example it will show the old command on the screen also it doesn't give me the full screen for command page basically its not as clean as classic. IDK doesn't pull me at all. Oh and the blue color background in classic feels much better.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 20, 2017, 12:40:44 PM
Exactly as I said, it takes a few seconds to pull up inventory. I really can't work this way. I could use expert flyer for this money... At least if it would not show these thinking dots I wouldn't realize how slow it is...  This was first bummer for me. Also when I hit ignore for example it will show the old command on the screen also it doesn't give me the full screen for command page basically its not as clean as classic. IDK doesn't pull me at all. Oh and the blue color background in classic feels much better.

Color by me is the same
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 20, 2017, 12:44:49 PM
Basically 2 major issues.

1. Painfully Brutally slow.

2. Also part of its slowness I guess..  In classic I could just work with my eyes on the keyboard hit commends one after the other and even its a bit slow for a reason it would still put in each and every command in order. in connect it would just skip the commands which weren't quick enough to be entered at the time they were entered. Understand what I trying to say?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on October 20, 2017, 12:48:04 PM
Basically 2 major issues.

1. Painfully Brutally slow.

2. Also part of its slowness I guess..  In classic I could just work with my eyes on the keyboard hit commends one after the other and even its a bit slow for a reason it would still put in each and every command in order. in connect it would just skip the commands which weren't quick enough to be entered at the time they were entered. Understand what I trying to say?

I understand very clear - these are the reasons NOBODY wants to change
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 20, 2017, 12:51:08 PM
I understand very clear - these are the reasons NOBODY wants to change
The way issue number 2 affects me is even worse than 1. In any case I emailed my rep now with the feedback and that I do not plan to use it let's see what I hear back.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on October 20, 2017, 12:59:59 PM
Her reply.. I have not had any agencies tell me they have a problem with this. Do you clean your cache on a regular basis?


I answered her..


Yes I do. I am not sure which agencies you asked but I asked a few different agents today and each and every one of them have the same issue. And to irritate, slow doesn't have to mean that it takes 2 minutes to answer a command, when it takes 4 seconds that's called painfully slow as well. Try it and you'll see. It takes its very own time.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 03, 2017, 09:19:44 AM
Next in line

Quote
A Message About Air France-KLM Distribution Surcharge
(November 3, 2017) - Air France-KLM (AFKL) announced it will apply a Distribution Surcharge of 11 EUR per one way on GDS sales, effective April 1, 2018. The Distribution Surcharge covers the cost difference created by the GDS model in comparison with corresponding costs of AFKL direct sales. It will apply per direction when Air France, KLM or HOP! participate as the marketing carrier (includes Joon).

This surcharge will not apply to Delta marketed segments. Additionally, travel agents can access, book and sell AFKL offers exempt from Distribution Surcharge by connecting to Air France-KLM NDC APIs (Application Programming Interface - available January 2018) or using the dedicated AFKL booking portal for travel agencies (available April 2018).

AFKL is constantly adapting to the needs of the environment it operates in. The airline offers multiple options for customers to purchase travel – including booking through the GDS. However, AFKL faces higher costs and more constraints through the GDS than other distribution.

AFKL has determined that NDC will:
Enable the distribution of rich content and differentiated offers
Ease the sale of ancillary products at travel agencies
Create the base for their response to customer needs on all channels and touch-points
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 27, 2017, 05:06:03 PM
Insight of PS's 777
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/11/27/ukraine-777-business-class/ (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/11/27/ukraine-777-business-class/)


They are buying the acft from OZ but the interior will be brand new

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hl7596 (https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hl7596)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 27, 2017, 10:17:50 PM
TWIMC: A "GDS" is a travel software that is used by all airlines as their reservations platform, this is what is behind all airlines Websites & call centers, all OTAs, and Travel Agents.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 29, 2017, 08:22:37 AM
LY now allows void of exchanges in gds
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yelped on November 29, 2017, 09:33:23 AM
LY now allows void of exchanges in gds
Translation for those of us who are not TAs (but book via TAs)?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on November 29, 2017, 10:02:21 AM
LY now allows void of exchanges in gds
Same time frames as with tickets?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 29, 2017, 10:20:56 AM
Translation for those of us who are not TAs (but book via TAs)?
Wrong thread for those people. Additionally it seems there has been a lot of off topic posts regarding how to get a GDS etc, which is not the purpose of the thread. It is for existing GDS users who have GDS related questions or information.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on November 29, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
Same time frames as with tickets?
AFAIK GDS exchange voids are same day only
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yelped on November 29, 2017, 10:32:08 AM
Wrong thread for those people. Additionally it seems there has been a lot of off topic posts regarding how to get a GDS etc, which is not the purpose of the thread. It is for existing GDS users who have GDS related questions or information.
You're right.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on November 30, 2017, 04:24:05 PM
The NEW Sabre Red Workspace
https://agencyeservices.sabre.com/~/media/eServices/Documents/Training%20Workbooks/SRW%20New/en/NSRW_Get_Ready.pdf.ashx
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 02, 2017, 10:01:05 PM
http://www.linearair.com/ta
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 02, 2017, 10:04:00 PM
What exactly is it?

Do they give comis?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 02, 2017, 10:04:51 PM
What exactly is it?

Do they give comis?

Air Taxi
5%
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 02, 2017, 10:22:58 PM
Will I receive a commission when booking Linear Air Taxi in Amadeus?
Yes, post trip, Linear will issue a 5% commission calculated off the base price net of taxes
and a 3.5% processing fee to the agency of record.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 12, 2017, 04:19:45 PM
https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/news/policy-update-archive/2017/december-2017/delta-expands-e-ticket-technology-for-infants-on-domestic-itiner.html (https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/news/policy-update-archive/2017/december-2017/delta-expands-e-ticket-technology-for-infants-on-domestic-itiner.html)

Quote
Delta Expands E-Ticket Technology for Infants on Domestic Itineraries   
Effective for travel on/after December 12, 2017, Delta Air Lines will introduce a new policy that requires the issuance of an eTicket for lap infants on domestic itineraries for flights operated by Delta and Delta Connection®.  Delta is updating its policy to ensure consistency for all customers traveling with a lap infant.  This aligns Delta with an industry standard to improve safety and security among U.S. carriers and will help to provide a more complete manifest of all passengers onboard.

While travel agencies are revising their processes to issue domestic infant eTickets, Global Sales Support and Delta Reservations  are available to assist with issuing domestic infant eTickets, if necessary.

Travel Agency Requested Action

To ensure a seamless experience for our mutual customers traveling with a lap infant on a domestic itinerary, travel agents are asked to:

Continue to add an infant SSR (INFT) for each lap infant in the PNR to indicate an “infant in arms” is traveling

Issue an infant eTicket at zero value, for customers traveling on/after December 12, 2017.

The process and information needed should be the same as what your GDS requires for issuing infant eTickets on international itineraries.

If needed, please refer to your particular GDS Help Desk, as procedures may vary by GDS. 
If you have questions or need further assistance, please contact Global Sales Support or Delta Reservations.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on December 24, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
is there any reason why I can't cancel a PNR before refunding the eticket? (service desk is closed for the holidays and I want to reissue a new ticket in new classes that became available under a new PNR, and don't want it to dupe)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 24, 2017, 03:21:26 PM
is there any reason why I can't cancel a PNR before refunding the eticket? (service desk is closed for the holidays and I want to reissue a new ticket in new classes that became available under a new PNR, and don't want it to dupe)

Who said you can't cancel?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on December 24, 2017, 03:23:44 PM
that's my question, will cancelling the segments before refunding the eticket have any adverse effect on subsequently cancelling the eticket?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 24, 2017, 03:25:09 PM
that's my question, will cancelling the segments before refunding the eticket have any adverse effect on subsequently cancelling the eticket?

Is this a GDS booking?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on December 24, 2017, 03:57:15 PM
Yes
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 24, 2017, 03:58:43 PM
Yes

You can process the refund without a PNR
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 24, 2017, 04:25:57 PM
that's my question, will cancelling the segments before refunding the eticket have any adverse effect on subsequently cancelling the eticket?
To answer your question, no
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on December 26, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
does anyone know the office code for SQ in order to hand over a PNR to the mileage desk from Amadeus?
thanks in advance
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 26, 2017, 09:51:35 AM
does anyone know the office code for SQ in order to hand over a PNR to the mileage desk from Amadeus?
thanks in advance
If it has a SQ segment they can see it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on December 26, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
If it has a SQ segment they can see it
thank you.
I'm guessing that goes for all Amadeus system users?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 26, 2017, 09:53:18 AM
thank you.
I'm guessing that goes for all Amadeus users?
Correct
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on December 26, 2017, 09:54:05 AM
Correct
good to know thanks again for the answers
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 26, 2017, 09:57:01 AM
Or you can open it up with a wildcard ES/G***SQ****-B
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on December 26, 2017, 10:02:31 AM
good to know thanks again for the answers
They can see their own segments, and maybe one before and after, they can't see all segments but they do see all your remarks if not secured
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 26, 2017, 11:32:44 AM
You can book award SQ inventor in Amadeus?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on December 26, 2017, 11:54:29 AM
You can book award SQ inventor in Amadeus?
no but tk award inventory does allow and it isn’t showing up elsewhere
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on December 26, 2017, 12:21:47 PM
You can book award SQ inventor in Amadeus?
I believe you can
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on December 26, 2017, 01:21:33 PM
I believe you can
Which classes of service?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on December 26, 2017, 07:54:28 PM
You can book award SQ inventor in Amadeus?

I've been able to long sell I class in Sabre, but never tried getting SQ to ticket.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 05, 2018, 09:35:07 AM
Anyone tried out the new Sabre?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 09, 2018, 12:31:18 PM
A3 GDS Fee.....


   
12/21/17 - We are joining the GDS fee club - for Amadeus & Travelport
Quote
Aegean Distribution Channel Fee – A3 DCF
With effect from January 10th, 2018, Aegean Airlines will apply a distribution channel fee (hereinafter called “A3 DCF”) of 5 Euros per one way fare component to A3 marketed fares which are booked through the Amadeus and/or Travelport Global Distribution Systems.

How will the DCF apply?
Effective for ticketing from January 10, 2018 the DCF will apply per direction whenever Aegean Airlines participate as a marketing carrier. It applies worldwide (subject to approval from regulatory authorities) to all fares, cabins and classes, for tickets issued through Amadeus, Appolo, Galileo and Worldspan GDS.

i. e.
DCF is filed per direction, meaning that the surcharge will apply once for each direction of travel on the journey.

One way ATH – LON (1 direction): DCF applies once
One way FRA – ATH – JTR (1 direction): DCF applies once
Round trip ATH – LON – ATH (2 directions): DCF applies twice
Round trip FRA – x/ATH – JTR – x/ATH – FRA (2 directions): DCF applies twice
Open Jaw PAR – ATH / HER – PAR (2 directions): DCF applies twice.
How will the DCF be collected?
The Distribution Channel Fee is collected through a Q charge to each applicable fare components and it is displayed on the ticket’s fare calculation line.

Thank You



1/4/18 - Sorry - for Travelport only
Quote
Aegean Distribution Channel Fee – A3 DCF The announced Aegean Distribution Channel Fee of 5 euros per oneway fare component, with effect from January 10, 2018, will apply to A3 marketed fares through the Travelport Global Distribution Systems Appolo, Galileo and Worldspan.

For bookings made through the Aegean Airline’s website, directly with Aegean Airlines, through Aegean’s Direct Connection IT solution to Travel Agencies, through Abacus, Amadeus and Sabre Global Distribution Systems, the A3 DCF will not apply.

Thank You


1/9/18 - Cancel cancel - stop the press - we won't be charging the fee (Guess all contracts renewed at good terms?)
Quote
Cancellation of Distribution Fee
Aegean Distribution Channel Fee – A3 DCF The announced Aegean Distribution Channel Fee of 5 euros per oneway fare component, with effect from January 10, 2018, is not going to be implemented

Thank you
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 09, 2018, 06:02:15 PM
Anyone tried out the new Sabre?

No one?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on January 09, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
No one?
New sabre... i've lost belief in the big dogs. They don't learn new tricks.
Sabre spammed me with emails about the new Sabre Training - you know what it was - a couple changes to their graphics and fonts.
The new sabre is sure to be the crapiest of systems you will ever try.

I want to build a full travel system from scratch. fully integrated smart system. Not 100% sure how to either get around the main GDS or through them smartly - but it can and needs to be done.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 09, 2018, 10:28:04 PM
I want to build a full travel system from scratch. fully integrated smart system. Not 100% sure how to either get around the main GDS or through them smartly - but it can and needs to be done.

yup, next in line please
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 09, 2018, 10:30:31 PM
The new sabre is sure to be the crapiest of systems you will ever try.

The new Sabre is not that bad - from my point of view. The new Amadeus is much worse
You do lose the legacy view of Sabre but its still works fast and the graphics shows good. You taka can not scroll up and down and C/P lets say into a notepad so easily - and like legacy 1A moving between tabs displays all on one scroll 
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 24, 2018, 09:52:05 AM
Anyone here ever deal with and INFT not confirming on AZ (or any other airline)? AZ has a max of how many INFT's they allow on board each flight. It only really turns out to be an issue during very high season. I had a family booked on AZ for Pesach TLV - JFK, and they just gave birth to another child BH. I Added the baby and got UC for the last segment FCO - TLV. I called and they aren't ready to do ANYTHING for me. NO approving the INFT. NO free change. NO free refund. When I asked what they expect me to do (I spoke as passenger), he said "you can leave the baby behind"...
Any here have experience? Any suggestions? Any chance a DOT complaint can help? Can they force AZ to re-book on a different flight?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: shapsam on January 24, 2018, 10:01:23 AM
Anyone here ever deal with and INFT not confirming on AZ (or any other airline)? AZ has a max of how many INFT's they allow on board each flight. It only really turns out to be an issue during very high season. I had a family booked on AZ for Pesach TLV - JFK, and they just gave birth to another child BH. I Added the baby and got UC for the last segment FCO - TLV. I called and they aren't ready to do ANYTHING for me. NO approving the INFT. NO free change. NO free refund. When I asked what they expect me to do (I spoke as passenger), he said "you can leave the baby behind"...
Any here have experience? Any suggestions? Any chance a DOT complaint can help? Can they force AZ to re-book on a different flight?
It was mentioned in a different thread that you have to call the Italian call center.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: a mirrer on January 24, 2018, 10:01:39 AM
Anyone here ever deal with and INFT not confirming on AZ (or any other airline)? AZ has a max of how many INFT's they allow on board each flight. It only really turns out to be an issue during very high season. I had a family booked on AZ for Pesach TLV - JFK, and they just gave birth to another child BH. I Added the baby and got UC for the last segment FCO - TLV. I called and they aren't ready to do ANYTHING for me. NO approving the INFT. NO free change. NO free refund. When I asked what they expect me to do (I spoke as passenger), he said "you can leave the baby behind"...
Any here have experience? Any suggestions? Any chance a DOT complaint can help? Can they force AZ to re-book on a different flight?
try this maybe
Anytime anyone needs to deal with AZ do not call the US call center. Go straight to the Italian reservation center.
They opened up 2 seats in J (when it was very tightly sealed for miles bookings) in order to allow my infant to fly with us.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 24, 2018, 10:07:37 AM
It was mentioned in a different thread that you have to call the Italian call center.
try this maybe
It was the Italian CS
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: shapsam on January 24, 2018, 10:07:52 AM
It was the Italian CS
HUCA?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 24, 2018, 10:12:02 AM
Google, please stop reading everything on my screen  >:(

Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 24, 2018, 10:15:29 AM
HUCA?
My first fight was 20 minutes. I need to get some energy before calling back. Does it need to be during business hours?
Also, what number do I press? (last time I did 1, but it's in Italian so I have no clue what department I was talking to)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: YED on January 25, 2018, 11:08:17 AM
Anyone here ever deal with and INFT not confirming on AZ (or any other airline)? AZ has a max of how many INFT's they allow on board each flight. It only really turns out to be an issue during very high season. I had a family booked on AZ for Pesach TLV - JFK, and they just gave birth to another child BH. I Added the baby and got UC for the last segment FCO - TLV. I called and they aren't ready to do ANYTHING for me. NO approving the INFT. NO free change. NO free refund. When I asked what they expect me to do (I spoke as passenger), he said "you can leave the baby behind"...
Any here have experience? Any suggestions? Any chance a DOT complaint can help? Can they force AZ to re-book on a different flight?
Did the whole segment get a UC status or only the ssr for the inft?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 25, 2018, 11:10:18 AM
Did the whole segment get a UC status or only the ssr for the inft?
Only SSR. There is no special segment for INFs
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yids on January 25, 2018, 11:13:32 AM
Did the whole segment get a UC status or only the ssr for the inft?
@chaikel advised not to put a client who was going through a similar situation on a high season flight with an unborn inft, said there isn’t much to do about getting it confirmed
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: YED on January 25, 2018, 10:43:09 PM
Thank's to your post I realized I had a similar issue with 2 separate booking on AZ, at first I thought I might have lucked out because I had all tickets issued on DL stock (it was a mixed itinerary of AF & AZ) So I thought I would be able to get this solved quicker, But after being over an hour on the line with several rep's seems like they have no clue what I am talking about, all they know is that the Inft's are ticketed and good to go, they know nothing about caps for the amount of infants on a single flight.. although I already confirmed with AZ that the inf will not be allowed on the flight (even though the inf tkt was already issued) DL just doesn't know about any ssr requirement etc.
Any advise, any contact info for DL department with agents that have some (basic) knowledge..?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on January 26, 2018, 01:47:18 AM
Thank's to your post I realized I had a similar issue with 2 separate booking on AZ, at first I thought I might have lucked out because I had all tickets issued on DL stock (it was a mixed itinerary of AF & AZ) So I thought I would be able to get this solved quicker, But after being over an hour on the line with several rep's seems like they have no clue what I am talking about, all they know is that the Inft's are ticketed and good to go, they know nothing about caps for the amount of infants on a single flight.. although I already confirmed with AZ that the inf will not be allowed on the flight (even though the inf tkt was already issued) DL just doesn't know about any ssr requirement etc.
Any advise, any contact info for DL department with agents that have some (basic) knowledge..?

Do you guys not have reps you can speak to who will just sort this stuff out?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 27, 2018, 05:26:59 PM
I had a while back a cleint in this situation and was traveling from the US via Canada to TLV, and they call me from the airport that they are not a US citizen and therefore require a ETA for Transit and till they got it done it was too late and the airline doesn't want to wait. I had to plead with check in agent over the phone (a miracle the agent even wanted to talk with someone) and he said it's my issue etc - I begged him and explained and as they had no luggage he agreed and they got a supervisor to speed them thru security. The flight left pretty much on time nonetheless.
Once this topic was brought up (in another thread)...
I recently had an Israeli passenger who was denied boarding because she didn't have a Canadian visa. She would've made one on the spot if not that the website (of the CA government) was down for maintenance just then. She needed to refund her ticket and purchase an alternate ticket with another airline. Contacted AC 3 times to try to get a waiver, but they denied. Passenger claims she had no idea about the visa requirement, because the last time she flew (2 years ago), visas were not required to enter (or fly through) Canada.
Question: Is it (officially) the TAs responsibility to notify clients every time they book a ticket of any visa requirements, or is it the passengers responsibility and if a passenger calls to book a ticket the TA can assume that the passenger has everything necessary to fly to the destination?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2018, 01:22:33 AM
Do you guys not have reps you can speak to who will just sort this stuff out?
Was thinking the same. @yandmk where do you issue your tkts?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 28, 2018, 01:23:50 AM
I issued lately such a ticket, you think they will be denied boarding?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yids on January 28, 2018, 01:25:03 AM
Just have in your terms and conditions that you aren’t responsible for visa & passport issues, that would relieve your responsibility that may have been assumed
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 06:13:54 AM
Was thinking the same. @yandmk where do you issue your tkts?
As mentioned, we reached out to AC 3 times, but they don't want to waive the refund fee. Question is only if the passenger is fully responsible, or if maybe I was supposed to inform him about the visa requirement.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 06:15:47 AM
I issued lately such a ticket, you think they will be denied boarding?
Why don't you (or the pax) just make the ETA? It takes 5 minutes and 7 CAD and it's done.
(Unless you're referring to the AZ issue?)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 28, 2018, 09:09:27 AM
Why don't you (or the pax) just make the ETA? It takes 5 minutes and 7 CAD and it's done.
(Unless you're referring to the AZ issue?)
AZ INF
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 09:20:48 AM
AZ INF
Yes, they will be denied boarding if the INFT is not KK'd
And welcome to the club. If you have any success with these stubborn people, please let us know
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2018, 09:47:42 AM
Yes, they will be denied boarding if the INFT is not KK'd
And welcome to the club. If you have any success with these stubborn people, please let us know
Which stubborn people?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 09:49:40 AM
Which stubborn people?
Alitalia
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2018, 09:59:10 AM
Alitalia
The call center?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 10:02:11 AM
The call center?
Call, email, snail mail, airport reps, and everyone in between. I'm not sure what you're getting at. Want to explain what you want?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2018, 01:39:26 PM
Call, email, snail mail, airport reps, and everyone in between. I'm not sure what you're getting at. Want to explain what you want?
You, or the wholesaler you use, doesn't have a local sales rep with whom to discuss the issue?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 28, 2018, 01:49:35 PM
You, or the wholesaler you use, doesn't have a local sales rep with whom to discuss the issue?
It's Alitalia man, the sales rep will repeat the same BS, government safety FAA regulations
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2018, 01:50:24 PM
It's Alitalia man, the sales rep will repeat the same BS, government safety FAA regulations
But they should be able to get a waiver to refund the tkt.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 28, 2018, 01:53:07 PM
But they should be able to get a waiver to refund the tkt.
My experience "fare rules apply"
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 28, 2018, 02:37:14 PM
My experience "fare rules apply"
Mine as well
But they should be able to get a waiver to refund the tkt.
You have had other experiences?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 28, 2018, 02:39:28 PM
But they should be able to get a waiver to refund the tkt.
I don't believe anyone wants a refund waiver, the cleints want the cheap AZ fares...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 02:44:11 PM
It's Alitalia man, the sales rep will repeat the same BS, government safety FAA regulations
Is it a rule from the FAA? How is it that I've flown on many airlines during Yom Tov seasons that had way more INFs onboard than AZs limit?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 28, 2018, 02:45:09 PM
Is it a rule from the FAA? How is it that I've flown on many airlines during Yom Tov seasons that had way more INFs onboard than AZs limit?
They used to be much more lenient with overbooking
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 28, 2018, 02:45:43 PM
Is it a rule from the FAA? How is it that I've flown on many airlines during Yom Tov seasons that had way more INFs onboard than AZs limit?
Just saying how many BS AZ can say....
No the FAA doesn't have such a rule. Well AZ didn't want to let me take a car seat either
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 02:49:02 PM
They used to be much more lenient with overbooking
Was actually referring to other airlines who don't have any limit
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on January 28, 2018, 02:52:09 PM
Was actually referring to other airlines who don't have any limit
Airlines are allowed to make whatever rules they like. If you don't like it, don't fly them. That's capitalism.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on January 28, 2018, 03:49:06 PM

Is it a rule from the FAA? How is it that I've flown on many airlines during Yom Tov seasons that had way more INFs onboard than AZs limit?
They actually mentioned to me that "each flight can only have a fix number if infants for
Security purpose"

(Yeah, that's Italian spelling)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: YED on January 28, 2018, 03:52:52 PM
To me AZ said that their limit is 10 per aircraft... and they didn't say anything about FAA regulations, thay rather said that they are trying to make sure that the amount of INFT's wouldn't be too disturbant to the whole plane...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on January 28, 2018, 04:02:35 PM
To me AZ said that their limit is 10 per aircraft... and they didn't say anything about FAA regulations, thay rather said that they are trying to make sure that the amount of INFT's wouldn't be too disturbant to the whole plane...
And to me they said it had to do with how many oxygen masks they had on the plane. Maybe they're still trying to figure it out themselves...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on January 31, 2018, 02:06:46 PM
Just noticed LY has a 787 TLV to HKG starting 03 march.
(public knowledge from LY email blast though - that SFO goes on sale today)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on January 31, 2018, 04:25:07 PM
Is 1A down by everyone?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on January 31, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
Is 1A down by everyone?

Working by me

Quote
Title

Amadeus Selling Platform Classic and SECO Outage

PTR

14647796

Description

Reports of Amadeus Selling Platform Classic and Connect Outage.  Teams are working to restore service as soon as possible.

High Call Volume Activated

Workaround

N/A

Information Provided by:

ACSC SJO

Amadeus Customer Service
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: mendyt on January 31, 2018, 04:27:17 PM
Working by me
Yup classic and connect down by me.

Brrrrrrr....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 01, 2018, 07:43:20 AM
https://paxex.aero/2018/02/atpco-scores-big-routehappy-acquisition/amp/
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: dvol on February 21, 2018, 11:59:02 AM
Have an elite member with AA, I usually use WC1X/UPG to request an upgrade in Sabre but it's giving me an error: ‡UNABLE TO BOOK NEW CLASS‡

This is the same for multiple reservations, any idea why?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 24, 2018, 08:26:47 PM
TAs: What Accounting / CRM (and other software part of GDS) do you use?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on February 24, 2018, 09:32:06 PM
I use clientbase as crm of sorts, and umapped for itin delivery for high end clients.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 24, 2018, 09:33:06 PM
I use clientbase as crm of sorts, and umapped for itin delivery for high end clients.

CleintBase from Trams/Sabre? Are you happy with it?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 25, 2018, 01:11:34 PM
anyone here on the new Sabre?
spoiler alert, I HATE it!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 25, 2018, 02:04:27 PM
anyone here on the new Sabre?
spoiler alert, I HATE it!
If they wanted people to like it, they wouldn't change it
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: yandmk on February 25, 2018, 04:54:11 PM
If they wanted people to like it, they wouldn't change it
So honestly, who are they trying to impress with the change?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 25, 2018, 05:17:40 PM
So honestly, who are they trying to impress with the change?
Who knows. Probably shareholders
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on February 25, 2018, 06:46:47 PM
my list of complaints is huge, but the biggest problem is, it's incredibly sluggish! I've tried restarting it and restarting my computer, it doesn't change much, it's up and down, but varies from slower than normal to incredibly annoying, it's almost never been as fast as the old Sabre. I still have other Sabres installed so I can AAA from one of the older ones into this one, but there's still plenty I can't do from there... I hope they fix it up soon, or have options to opt out and revert to the old version, at least for some features...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 25, 2018, 06:47:32 PM
my list of complaints is huge, but the biggest problem is, it's incredibly sluggish! I've tried restarting it and restarting my computer, it doesn't change much, it's up and down, but varies from slower than normal to incredibly annoying, it's almost never been as fast as the old Sabre. I still have other Sabres installed so I can AAA from one of the older ones into this one, but there's still plenty I can't do from there... I hope they fix it up soon, or have options to opt out and revert to the old version, at least for some features...
You can opt out
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 26, 2018, 12:46:37 PM
You can opt out
Where in Agencyeservices can you opt out
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on February 26, 2018, 01:10:25 PM
Where in Agencyeservices can you opt out

I believe its this - Sabre Red Workspace Upgrade Delay Request Form
https://agencyeservices.sabre.com/Manager/Ordering/NSRW-Upgrade-Delay-Request.aspx
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Chaikel on February 26, 2018, 01:23:51 PM
I believe its this - Sabre Red Workspace Upgrade Delay Request Form
https://agencyeservices.sabre.com/Manager/Ordering/NSRW-Upgrade-Delay-Request.aspx
Thanks
All Chaikel Travel PCCs have been requested to 2019
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on February 26, 2018, 02:10:00 PM
Thanks
All Chaikel Travel PCCs have been requested to 2019
Thanks!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on March 11, 2018, 09:49:09 PM
You can opt out

Quote
Q: If we don't like the new version, can we go back to the current one, and did Sabre set a sunset deadline for the current version?
A: You can always roll back to your current version of Sabre Red Workspace. We ask that you give the new Sabre Red Workspace a try and provide feedback as to why it won't work for you before you decide to roll back. You can add your feedback in iSuggest under the Community tab in Sabre Red Workspace.

Our current target for stop sell is end of 2018 and stop support is end of 2019.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on April 15, 2018, 04:28:00 PM
My client booked a flight MIA-EWR-FCO // VCE-FRA-MIA on UA 1959 and UA 40. (back on LH)
UA1959 had delays and was going to misconnect - so i called UA and they offered to Re-accomodate client to LH 463 and LH 232 (MIA-FRA-FCO)
The flight was an upgrade from "P", to "F" and "J".. due to the impending mis-connect.
Yes the clients and I were thanking UA very much and excited for their amazing service and the coming A380 experience.

One Pax went through on online checkin one the system didn't check-in properly online.
so one had a boarding pass in hand - one did not.

They went to the check-in desk and LH manager not only denied them boarding but threatened to take the boarding pass away from the lady, telling her - UA should not have put you in 1st and I would rather those seats fly empty than have you in them!
The other pax she says paid 10k+ and they don't deserve to fly in that cabin. (they paid around 3-4k each)

Granted the pax did NOT request first class - and offered to be put into business class UA - the UA agents had no business class inventory open - there were only 2 seats in F on the plane and the agents at their discretion put these pax in F.

The ruthlessness to a Rev Biz pax Is shocking.. She then said "we can't help you - go to United".

LH is likely in violation of DOT laws...
Granted they may not be happy about what UA did - taking their last 2 F class seats 3 hours before departure..
BUT - A. this is all above the table - PAX did nothing wrong UA did the exchange - and if LH wants to bump someone AND downgrade post TICKETING - that is 2 laws broken in 1 fell swoop.

Where would you start? Clients are furious at what the manager did and want to pursue this - where would you start?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lubaby on April 15, 2018, 04:54:02 PM
My client booked a flight MIA-EWR-FCO // VCE-FRA-MIA on UA 1959 and UA 40. (back on LH)
UA1959 had delays and was going to misconnect - so i called UA and they offered to Re-accomodate client to LH 463 and LH 232 (MIA-FRA-FCO)
The flight was an upgrade from "P", to "F" and "J".. due to the impending mis-connect.
Yes the clients and I were thanking UA very much and excited for their amazing service and the coming A380 experience.

One Pax went through on online checkin one the system didn't check-in properly online.
so one had a boarding pass in hand - one did not.

They went to the check-in desk and LH manager not only denied them boarding but threatened to take the boarding pass away from the lady, telling her - UA should not have put you in 1st and I would rather those seats fly empty than have you in them!
The other pax she says paid 10k+ and they don't deserve to fly in that cabin. (they paid around 3-4k each)

Granted the pax did NOT request first class - and offered to be put into business class UA - the UA agents had no business class inventory open - there were only 2 seats in F on the plane and the agents at their discretion put these pax in F.

The ruthlessness to a Rev Biz pax Is shocking.. She then said "we can't help you - go to United".

LH is likely in violation of DOT laws...
Granted they may not be happy about what UA did - taking their last 2 F class seats 3 hours before departure..
BUT - A. this is all above the table - PAX did nothing wrong UA did the exchange - and if LH wants to bump someone AND downgrade post TICKETING - that is 2 laws broken in 1 fell swoop.

Where would you start? Clients are furious at what the manager did and want to pursue this - where would you start?
Sounds like this story:
HELP ELAL DENIES BOARDING FOR NO REASON (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=60242.0)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on April 15, 2018, 04:59:12 PM
yup identical..
Filed DOT...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: palm tights on April 15, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
Is possible for someone to get by himself access to gds ? Or need to go under a wholesaler?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on April 15, 2018, 10:17:29 PM
Is possible for someone to get by himself access to gds ? Or need to go under a wholesaler?
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: shapsam on April 16, 2018, 12:04:12 AM
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
Same with Amedeus?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 16, 2018, 12:05:47 AM
Same with Amedeus?

yes
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: palm tights on April 16, 2018, 12:33:27 AM
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
And what do i need to qualify?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on April 16, 2018, 04:52:51 AM
And what do i need to qualify?
Nothing if you just want the system.
If you want ticketing... read up on iata qualification reqs
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on April 16, 2018, 09:07:43 AM
To ticket you would need to set up with iata if you want your own sabre capable of ticketing. Of you just want sabre without ticketing you can speak to sabre directly for that.
Nothing if you just want the system.
If you want ticketing... read up on iata qualification reqs
It's ARC in the USA, not IATA
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on April 19, 2018, 05:07:52 PM
back to the AZ INFT issue, I have a pax with an unborn baby wanting to travel for Sukkos, will it help to add a fake baby now to the PNR and update it when baby is born? or once you delete the 3INFT to replace it the new one may come back UC?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on April 19, 2018, 09:50:45 PM
yup identical..
Filed DOT...
Don't hold your breath. The airline will stick up for LH like they did with LY.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on May 01, 2018, 06:16:05 PM
DL     CHILON       26JUN18          MPM  4749               
    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1A  ZH1X86D2       Z‡R   900.00        T10MY 28/3 SU/12M AT01
 :o :o :o :o
$900 base fare looks like a price mistake - like they filed 2k below by accident...

ORD to LHR

02.DAY/TIME                                                     
   FROM UNITED STATES -                                         
     PERMITTED TUE THROUGH FRI ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC           
     SECTOR.                                                   
   TO UNITED STATES -                                           
     PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC           
     SECTOR.

03.SEASONALITY                                                 ‡
MD«                                                             
   OUTBOUND -                                                  ‡
     PERMITTED 25MAR THROUGH 01APR OR 20JUN THROUGH 29AUG       
     OR 18NOV THROUGH 25NOV OR 12DEC THROUGH 02JAN             
   INBOUND -                                                   
     OR 01APR THROUGH 12APR OR 20JUN THROUGH 11SEP OR           
     21NOV THROUGH 29NOV OR 19DEC THROUGH 05JAN FOR EACH       
     TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.

08.STOPOVERS                                                   
   NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
10.COMBINATIONS                                                 
    END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS                                           
   FOOTNOTE RULE                                               
   TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 10MAY18.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: jose34 on May 01, 2018, 06:42:25 PM
Nothing if you just want the system.
If you want ticketing... read up on iata qualification reqs

I would assume you would agent license or something like that.

How much would it cost to set a whole system yourself?
How come all travel agents dont do it and instead work off others people system?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: forumsuser on May 15, 2018, 09:10:45 PM
Does anyone have any experience with 4D, more specifically any info on if they will throughcheck baggage to MS when ticketed separately?

Seems they do have valid throughfares,

Code: [Select]
FQJNBTLV-MS« 
  1  ¤SNIZA/PV       S R   258.00        T31MY  -    -/ 1M EH01
  2  ¤LNIZA/PV       L R   294.00        T31MY  -    -/12M EH01
  3   SNIZA          S R   344.00     ----      -    -/ 1M EH01

so there must be some sort of arrangement, yet:

Code: [Select]
W/*4D‡*MS«                                                     
 4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                                     
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                 
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       MS                                                       
                                                               
W/*MS‡*4D«                                                     
 MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                       
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                               
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       4D   

 
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 15, 2018, 09:11:54 PM
Does anyone have any experience with 4D, more specifically any info on if they will throughcheck baggage to MS when ticketed separately?

Seems they do have valid throughfares,

Code: [Select]
FQJNBTLV-MS« 
  1  ¤SNIZA/PV       S R   258.00        T31MY  -    -/ 1M EH01
  2  ¤LNIZA/PV       L R   294.00        T31MY  -    -/12M EH01
  3   SNIZA          S R   344.00     ----      -    -/ 1M EH01

so there must be some sort of arrangement, yet:

Code: [Select]
W/*4D‡*MS«                                                     
 4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                                     
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                 
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       MS                                                       
                                                               
W/*MS‡*4D«                                                     
 MS-077 EGYPTAIR/EGYPTAIR                                       
                                                               
   CANNOT ISSUE TKT-NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                       
       4D-903 AIR SINAI/AIR SINAI                               
                                                               
   CANNOT CHECK BAGGAGE NO AGREEMENT ON FILE                   
       4D   
It's the same airline let's now forget
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: forumsuser on May 15, 2018, 09:15:36 PM
It's the same airline let's now forget
But this is a unique situation, so wondering if anyone had any first hand experience.
Would you give a client 2 hour connection like this? (Same reloc)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on May 16, 2018, 10:30:02 AM
Prices as one ticket

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FXR                                                                             
                                                                               
01 P1                                                                           
NO REBOOKING REQUIRED FOR LOWEST AVAILABLE FARE                                 
LAST TKT DTE 25JUN18 - DATE OF ORIGIN                                           
------------------------------------------------------------                   
     AL FLGT  BK   DATE  TIME  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA   BG                   
 JNB                                                                           
XCAI MS   840 V    25JUN 2145  VNIZAO          25JUN25JUN 2P                   
 TLV 4D    54 Y    26JUN 0855  VNIZAO          26JUN26JUN 2P                   
                                                                               
ZAR  3610.00      25JUN18JNB MS X/CAI 4D TLV302.37VNIZAO NUC                   
USD   294.00      302.37END ROE11.938740                                       
USD     1.63YQ    XT USD 94.50YR USD 1.92EV USD 19.40ZA USD                     
USD     5.00YQ    1.87UM USD 15.48WC USD 1.00EQ                                 
USD   134.17XT                                                                 
USD   434.80                                                                   
RATE USED 1ZAR=0.08149USD                                                       
BAG/SEAT AT A CHARGE MAY BE AVAILABLE-ENTER FXK                                 
BG CXR: 2*MS                                                                   
PRICED WITH VALIDATING CARRIER MS - REPRICE IF DIFFERENT VC 
                   
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: forumsuser on May 16, 2018, 01:36:10 PM
Prices as one ticket
In this case it does. My Q is re ticketing separately as most markets they do not publish through fares.
(Pax isn't flying to JNB, I was just bringing it as an example that they do publish some throughfares which means it is theoretically possible.)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on May 18, 2018, 12:54:38 AM
So I reached out to a contact at the DOT... and 'Walla'.... progress... :)

What pisses me off is not the money. I don't care for the compensation here. My client doesn't either.

It's the fact that - if I as a Travel Agent or consumer have an airline exchange a ticket for me - the airlines should have to have full responsibility to the customer to honor that ticket.
Mistakes may happen - but that doesn't absolve them. I eat my mistakes - they need to eat theirs.

LH cannot let their tickets be sold by UA if they won't honor them - no airline should be allowed to do this practice not - LH and not LY.. it's ridiculous and needs to have penalties strong enough to deter denying boarding.

It's a crazy disruption to customers lives...
will update... if this goes somewhere...
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ilherman on May 18, 2018, 02:52:46 PM
Don't keep your hopes too high.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on May 18, 2018, 03:15:59 PM
Don't keep your hopes too high.
I am slightly more hopeful than i would have been in your LY situation.
1. This was a paid revenue ticket. (While to me it makes no difference, to others, they may question the entire transaction.. was ot bartered or sold? Etc..) This ticlet was a squeeky clean revenue ticket.
2. Unlike in your case, we were given a reason verbally and in writing that:
"United Airlines rebooked and ticketed you incorrectly in First Class on Lufthansa. Your original ticket with United Airlines was for Business Class and they should have only rebooked you in Business Class on the alternate routing with Lufthansa. The Lufthansa colleague in Miami was correct in denying the rebooking as it was not valid".

This was their response at Miami and with the DOT - and LH copied the DOT on this response originally.

It is not the issue of being bumped that i have brought up at all, but the issue of an airline, using partners to expand their sales distribution - but then using unfair business practices to disadvantage consumers who book through their expanded distribution - by claiming those partners sales as invalid and then placing the onus on the customer.

A fair business practice would be to place the onus on the seller, as customers must be able to purchase exchange and trust their tickets and re-accomodations will be honored...
In the eyes of a regulatory agency this practice has already been ruled on.
Deceptive practices with air tickets are federaly prohibited. This includes charging a fare difference on a issued or exchanged ticket. Simple as that.

Will see what they say...


Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on July 02, 2018, 04:10:12 PM
anyone know how to book a hotel in sabre for adults with children?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on July 03, 2018, 12:55:33 PM
how do you book an extra bag on Elal in Sabre? I added the AE and it says HN1/REQUESTED, how do I get it confirmed to issue the EMD?

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*AE«                                                           
ANCILLARY SERVICES                                             
  1.CHECKED BAG SECOND               1.1 xxxxxx/xxxxxx         
    STATUS - HN1/REQUESTED                                     
    AMOUNT - 85.00USD                                           
    TOTAL  - 85.00USD                                           
    FLIGHT - LYxxxxxxxxxxx                               
    DOC/CF -                         CPN -                     
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: lybbtthl on July 03, 2018, 01:01:45 PM
how do you book an extra bag on Elal in Sabre? I added the AE and it says HN1/REQUESTED, how do I get it confirmed to issue the EMD?

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*AE«                                                           
ANCILLARY SERVICES                                             
  1.CHECKED BAG SECOND               1.1 xxxxxx/xxxxxx         
    STATUS - HN1/REQUESTED                                     
    AMOUNT - 85.00USD                                           
    TOTAL  - 85.00USD                                           
    FLIGHT - LYxxxxxxxxxxx                               
    DOC/CF -                         CPN -                     

Figured it out, you need to do 3XBAS then the the status of the AE changes....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Jaws on August 10, 2018, 02:37:46 PM
need some help pls

how can i take those clases if they are paired with another?

example at the pic

2LA/**  384 Y7 B7 H7*SCLARI  809P 1044P   320 G 0 XTQF DCA /E   
            K7 M7 L0 V0 X0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 A0

but with MEX


1LA     621 J7 C7 D7*MEXSCL  805A  625P   788 LR 0 FS DCA /E   
            I7 Z7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 X7 S7                   
2LA/**  384 Y7 B7 H7*   ARI  809P 1044P   320 G 0 XTQF DCA /E   
            K7 M7 L7 V7 X7 S7 N7 Q7 O7 G7 A7

you can see more seats to take

can anyone help with this please? if i try to take with direct entry (01O2) it turns UC1

thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 10, 2018, 07:52:31 PM
Welcome to married segments. Enjoy your stay
need some help pls

how can i take those clases if they are paired with another?

example at the pic

2LA/**  384 Y7 B7 H7*SCLARI  809P 1044P   320 G 0 XTQF DCA /E   
            K7 M7 L0 V0 X0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 A0

but with MEX


1LA     621 J7 C7 D7*MEXSCL  805A  625P   788 LR 0 FS DCA /E   
            I7 Z7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 X7 S7                   
2LA/**  384 Y7 B7 H7*   ARI  809P 1044P   320 G 0 XTQF DCA /E   
            K7 M7 L7 V7 X7 S7 N7 Q7 O7 G7 A7

you can see more seats to take

can anyone help with this please? if i try to take with direct entry (01O2) it turns UC1

thanks
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: Jaws on August 11, 2018, 10:09:57 AM
Welcome to married segments. Enjoy your stay

some guy made it but he wont teach me lol

anyone that can help? please!  it drives me crazy

if he can... theres a way
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chinagel on August 25, 2018, 10:34:52 PM
reposting here, may be more appropriate
does allowing end on end on specific routes, change just airline to airline or even flight to flight/fare to fare?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 25, 2018, 10:38:28 PM
reposting here, may be more appropriate
does allowing end on end on specific routes, change just airline to airline or even flight to flight/fare to fare?
Can you better rephrase ?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chinagel on August 25, 2018, 11:24:10 PM
Can you better rephrase ?
Sorry. When airlines don't allow end-on-end combinability for a certain route, is it possible a different fare or flight on the same route may still allow it from the same airline?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on August 25, 2018, 11:26:22 PM
Sorry. When airlines don't allow end-on-end combinability for a certain route, is it possible a different fare or flight on the same route may still allow it from the same airline?
Check the fare rules....
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chinagel on August 25, 2018, 11:41:29 PM
Check the fare rules....
that's what i am asking about. If I know a specific flight has those rules, do i need to check any other flights on that route? can i assume they're all the same? Even for a different fare class? NOOB question.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: shapsam on August 26, 2018, 12:10:09 AM
that's what i am asking about. If I know a specific flight has those rules, do i need to check any other flights on that route? can i assume they're all the same? Even for a different fare class? NOOB question.
Every fare can be different even on the same route.
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: rcarentals on August 26, 2018, 12:16:18 AM
Every fare can be different even on the same route.
This is correct.
I have seen on the same airline the lowest inventory not allowing EOE and higher classes yes allowing it.
This usually doesn't help for the typical EOE searcher since the higher fare IME is often a large chunk higher than for example any savings a EOE fare may open up...
NOOB question.
Good luck!
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chinagel on August 26, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
Every fare can be different even on the same route.
This is correct.
I have seen on the same airline the lowest inventory not allowing EOE and higher classes yes allowing it.
This usually doesn't help for the typical EOE searcher since the higher fare IME is often a large chunk higher than for example any savings a EOE fare may open up... Good luck!
Thanks ;)
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: ramkyk on September 11, 2018, 08:17:57 PM
Need help with Amadeus.
I have an adult travelling roundtrip, ticket issued on EY.
They wanted to add an infant oneway only travelling with the adult.due to NHP condition I made a one way reservation for the infant with a dummy adult and issued only the infant ticket.

I added the infant to the adult PNR and used the FHE INF 123-456789/S2-3/p1 to add the infant ticket to the adult PNR. Everything looks fine in Amadeus except it says revalidate or reissue ticket.
When I called EY to Confirm they say they cannot see the E-ticket for the infant and they won't add it either. I have to do it.

Can anyone comment what I am doing wrong?
Title: Re: GDS Users AMADEUS, SABRE, GALILEO, WORLDSPAN
Post by: chff on September 11, 2018, 08:19:48 PM
Need help with Amadeus.
I have an adult travelling roundtrip, ticket issued on EY.
They wanted to add an infant oneway only travelling with the adult.due to NHP condition I made a one way reservation for the infant with a dummy adult and issued only the infant ticket.

I added the infant to the adult PNR and used the FHE INF 123-456789/S2-3/p1 to add the infant ticket to the adult PNR. Everything looks fine in Amadeus except it says revalidate or reissue ticket.
When I called EY to Confirm they say they cannot see the E-ticket for the infant and they won't add it either. I have to do it.

Can anyone comment what I am doing wrong?
FHE will