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Title: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2010, 08:24:40 PM
I'm thinking of making a trip sometime to Australia via Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific.

Any thoughts?
How long do you need in Hong Kong to see the sights?
Is it worth spending a Shabbos?
What's the kosher food situation?
Hyatt/SPG recommendations?
Go for Business or First on Cathay Pacific?

Let's keep this thread free of any local jewish politics...thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 21, 2010, 10:19:17 PM
 Thanks for the Fix

 OK basically theres 2 parts to HK 1 HK Island and the other Kowloon

 Chabad used to have Shabbos services and meals every Shabbos in the Mandrian Oriental on HKI, but when that Hotel closed for renovations Chabad didnt return and instead has its place up in The Mid Levels area which is where the Jews that live in HK reside.I dont know if they still do meals on Shabbos since you wont find any tourists there as its a residental area. The cloest Hotel to Chabad there and to Ohel Leah/JCC reg shul  is Bishops Lei which is a Church owned property but many people who go fund rasing to HK stay there over Shabbos and sometimes the whole week

 Its avery long Schelp from the Hyatt in HKI to the Mid Levels there are moving walkways but these are going down during the morning so youd have a very nice climb to get there

 Somewhere near where the Airport Express trains arrives in HKI is a Sefradi Kollel that also has a restaurant and Shabbos meals (I was never there so I cant comment on anything about it). also the JCC I mentioned above has a restaurant, on HKI from what I understand thats it these 2 places

 Kowloon where all the main tourist stuff is is also home to a Shearton which is a 10 min walk to the Chabad or Kehilat Zion (both are on the same street Mody but are on different sides across a 6 lane street from each other. Chabad has Shabbbos meals as does KZ, but KZ has the only restaurant in Kowloon. From what I remember there is now a Hyatt in Kowloon as well (from a previous discussion about HK on DD). Aside from those spending Shabbos in Kowloon there is no Jewish community of locals as there is on HKI.

 Great place to spend Shabbos in that neck of the World. But ChabadLand a/k/a Sydney,AU  is a residental community where you will need Home Hospitality unless you dont mind mind walking over an hour to DownTown. (I call it CBLand since basically thats who makes up the vast majority of the local community with numerous shuls, unlike MEL).

 how long to spend depends on what interests you and although we didnt hit Macau will next time not for the Casinos but the old city, there are numerous mkts that walking thru was interesting, theres the Peak, and riding the trams old street cars, HK History Museum was very interesting and is in Kowloon. If you want to have a suit or shirts custom made give yourself a few days so that you can go back for a refitting. everyone talks about the lightshow at night its like 10 mins and well a waste of time unless you have nothing else to do

 The Hyatt on HKI has a Lounge that is unbelieveble havent read of any FTer to ever score a Suite 1 of the hardest Hyatts to score it at they really do protect them  reg rooms high floor with harbour view were smallish (I didnt stay but some of the group that I went with did after Shabbos) for Shabbos we stayed at the now shut Renassiance in Kowloon. Sheraton in Kowloon has a Towers section and once again check FT and U will see its pretty hard to get UPed to that as well

 never flown on CX so I wont comment but gleff posted a pic of the FC lav the other day, maybe he did a comparison I didnt read the whole blog

 theres other things like going to the big budda Id say check out FT to see what if anything interests you
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 21, 2010, 10:24:35 PM
 BTW if we keep this 'free of local Jewish politics..' its gonna get very boring very fast LoL
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2010, 10:31:58 PM
Thanks.

It looks like the Grand Hyatt Hong Kong on HKI is just 1.4 miles from Chabad of HKI.   (http://local.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=7+Macdonnell+Road&daddr=Grand+Hyatt+Hong+Kong+Hotel,+Hong+Kong&hl=en&geocode=FeTmUwEdCuLNBin_gxnHbwAENDGW6_Vjma4MzQ%3BFc78UwEdLyHOBiHux-__lrvQLikPc_WnXgAENDGAwg_tLkRZ0Q&mra=ls&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&sll=22.278315,114.164236&sspn=0.009908,0.01929&ie=UTF8&z=16)
Is it really that bad of a walk?

Both Chabad of HKI and Kowloon appear to have shabbos meals. (http://www.chabadhongkong.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/266824/jewish/HOSPITALITY.htm)

There's also a Hyatt Regency that appears to be right next door to Chabad of Kowloon. (http://local.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=11+Hart+Avenue,+Tsim+Sha+Tsui&daddr=22.297686,114.174034&hl=en&geocode=FQQ8VAEdRSrOBikVWeEa7gAENDGDPQM7WqqKGg%3B&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=19&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&sll=22.297795,114.17401&sspn=0.001238,0.002411&ie=UTF8&z=19)

Has anyone stayed at either of these Hyatt's?

BTW if we keep this 'free of local Jewish politics..' its gonna get very boring very fast LoL
A risk I'm willing to take  :D
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 21, 2010, 10:44:36 PM
 GH-HKI to Chabad maybe  1.4 miles but its Uphill and Steep not something Id want to try if its Hot out or raining

 why not do the HR as long as the Hotel doesnt start on the 30th floor (we went thru that I forget the answer) and then Sun move over to the GH or vice versa.

 as for Shabbos meals I believe all the shuls/kollels have them, just didnt know if C of HKI still did
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 21, 2010, 11:32:03 PM
The cloest Hotel to Chabad there and to Ohel Leah/JCC reg shul  is Bishops Lei which is a Church owned property but many people who go fund rasing to HK stay there over Shabbos and sometimes the whole week

Just wanted to comment, the Bishops Lei is only convenient if attending ohel leah.. For Chabad in Midlevels, there are two hotels right next to chabad one is the Garden View and the other is Two Macdonnel Road (serviced suites/apartments..)

I'm not saying they're the best, but for anyone wanting to stay near Chabad those are the best options.. (unless you want to go to Chabad in Kowloon..)

http://www.twomr.com.hk/

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 21, 2010, 11:35:49 PM
Just wanted to comment, the Bishops Lei is only convenient if attending ohel leah.. For Chabad in Midlevels, there are two hotels right next to chabad one is the Garden View and the other is Two Macdonnel Road (serviced suites/apartments..)

I'm not saying they're the best, but for anyone wanting to stay near Chabad those are the best options.. (unless you want to go to Chabad in Kowloon..)

http://www.twomr.com.hk/



 when a person exits the moving walkways OL is to the Right and Chabad is to the Left , where is Bishops Lei? I was given the impression somewhere in between
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 22, 2010, 12:15:55 AM
Bishop LEi to Chabad is prob about 10 minute walk (but as you know, 10 HK minutes are long.... especially with the humidity) while the ones I mentioned are a minute or less...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 12:17:55 AM
Bishop LEi to Chabad is prob about 10 minute walk (but as you know, 10 HK minutes are long.... especially with the humidity) while the ones I mentioned are a minute or less...
And what about the Grand Hyatt to Chabad? (http://local.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=7+Macdonnell+Road&daddr=Grand+Hyatt+Hong+Kong+Hotel,+Hong+Kong&hl=en&geocode=FeTmUwEdCuLNBin_gxnHbwAENDGW6_Vjma4MzQ%3BFc78UwEdLyHOBiHux-__lrvQLikPc_WnXgAENDGAwg_tLkRZ0Q&mra=ls&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&sll=22.278315,114.164236&sspn=0.009908,0.01929&ie=UTF8&z=16)
Google estimates 26 minutes, is that accurate?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 12:40:45 AM
And what about the Grand Hyatt to Chabad? (http://local.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=7+Macdonnell+Road&daddr=Grand+Hyatt+Hong+Kong+Hotel,+Hong+Kong&hl=en&geocode=FeTmUwEdCuLNBin_gxnHbwAENDGW6_Vjma4MzQ%3BFc78UwEdLyHOBiHux-__lrvQLikPc_WnXgAENDGAwg_tLkRZ0Q&mra=ls&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&sll=22.278315,114.164236&sspn=0.009908,0.01929&ie=UTF8&z=16)
Google estimates 26 minutes, is that accurate?

 maybe prob #1 if you cant carry = no map = I hope you have a photographic memory ( during the week we had our fun even with a map)

 #2 going downhill will be easier then going Uphill, but its hot just think of walking 1.4 miles in Manhatten in Aug.

Kowloon is flat and Chabad from the Hyatt or Shearton is around the corner, alot better IMO
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 22, 2010, 12:42:40 AM
I stayed at the hyatt 9 years ago, but not for a shabbos... Can't say how long the walk would take, but I don't believe less than 40 minutes... it's up hill and killer heat.. I would have to agree with steve that walking in HK even 10 minutes isn't enjoyable how much more so with shabbos clothes and for that long.

I would probably say best bet would be to stay near Chabad of Kowloon for shabbos, that way you get a nice hotel and little walking...

Also if you go be sure to go to Shenzhen, you get a visa by the train station and you can buy a knockoff of anything you've ever seen including clothes,watches,electronics etc.. quite an experience. Also cheap massages (foot massage is cool..) they're aggressive so be prepared!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 12:47:01 AM
but its hot just think of walking 1.4 miles in Manhatten in Aug.

Can't say how long the walk would take, but I don't believe less than 40 minutes... it's up hill and killer heat.. I would have to agree with steve that walking in HK even 10 minutes isn't enjoyable how much more so with shabbos clothes and for that long.

When did I say I was going in the summer?
But thanks for the advice guys!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 12:57:02 AM
When did I say I was going in the summer?
But thanks for the advice guys!

 OK I was there in Feb off season and winter time and walking in a suit for the 10 mins in Kowloon all I was missing was some soap and a towel, it was managable but glad I wasnt there when its usually alot Hotter
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 22, 2010, 01:33:33 AM
Dan, read my tripreport. I was in hong kong and think 2 days is enough to see all. It depends how much shopping you want to do. I stayesd from friday till sunday night, that was fine.
I can only strongly suggest you spend shabbes in kehilat zion on the kowloon side. The food was amazing, beats every 5 star hotel. The atmosphere was very nice and its within short walking distance to a sheraton. There is also a shangrila right next to it. I stayed in the intercontinental grand standford.
The f and f rate was about the same as cash and pointd with starwood

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Shlomi on June 22, 2010, 02:02:48 AM
I have a special corporate rate for the Hyatt Regency in Kowloon. Not the best price ever but still cheaper.
Keep in mind that if you would like to use stairs (and not trust on the Heter to go with a goy in the elevator) Hyatt is out of the question. It's a brand new building and as much as I beg the GM - he wouldn't let our guests to use the stairs.
The older hotels such as the Sheraton, Intercontinental or Shangri-la would have stair access.
Grand Hyatt to Chabad HK is about 30 min. and is doable only when there is good weather.
3 days in HK would be enough to explore the whole city without skipping any important site.

And CX First is S-U-P-E-R good! (Never flown - but that's everybody here says... )
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 02:12:10 AM
I have a special corporate rate for the Hyatt Regency in Kowloon. Not the best price ever but still cheaper.
Keep in mind that if you would like to use stairs (and not trust on the Heter to go with a goy in the elevator) Hyatt is out of the question. It's a brand new building and as much as I beg the GM - he wouldn't let our guests to use the stairs.
The older hotels such as the Sheraton, Intercontinental or Shangri-la would have stair access.
Grand Hyatt to Chabad HK is about 30 min. and is doable only when there is good weather.
3 days in HK would be enough to explore the whole city without skipping any important site.

And CX First is S-U-P-E-R good! (Never flown - but that's everybody here says... )

Wow, thanks for the info on the Hyatt Regency.  How do they stop you from using the stairs?  I'd be happy to write a letter as well.

Is the staircase usable at the Grand Hyatt?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 22, 2010, 02:45:52 AM
Dan, u wanted to try turkish first class. Jfk-ist-hkg is all with the 777. The lease of turkish on these planes expires next year, i think you should consider it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Shlomi on June 22, 2010, 03:40:19 AM
Wow, thanks for the info on the Hyatt Regency.  How do they stop you from using the stairs?  I'd be happy to write a letter as well.

Is the staircase usable at the Grand Hyatt?

It's not about stopping me. All stairs have the fire alarm emergency bar and are armed.
You need special key to unlock the fire alarm. I tried once to get it but the GM (who is a great guy and likes me alot) said cannot cause they also have no insurance on this part of the hotel and if someone falls c"v - they are in big troubles...

Grand Hyatt is a (very) old hotel and does have stair access as far as I know.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 22, 2010, 04:54:34 AM
Dan,

 As a veteran of both Hong Kong and Australia, I'd offer the following advice:

1. CX First is amazing but when booking with AA Miles, you need to book two separate tickets, as N. America to South Pacific is only allowed via the Pacific. If you are springing for the extra miles and doing CX, try and get Qantas F from HKG-SYD as CX does not operate F to Australia. My advice would be to fly one way via the Pacific Islands (Bora Bora?) and New Zealand on Air New Zealand in Business/First (which is in my opinion much better than CX business comfort wise) and return via Hong Kong on QF & CX.

2. Walking from the Grand Hyatt to either Chabad or Ohel Leah is not really doable. Think San Francisco type hills. I love Shabbos in Kowloon and besides Kowloon is a much more authentic Hong Kong experience. Hong Kong Island is like Manhattan or Frankfurt. My advice for you would be to use the IC F&F rate at either Intercontinental in Kowloon or stay in the Sheraton on C+P

3. If you have the time, I'd advise you to maximize your trip by stopping in Singapore for a day (or two if possible). You can do that by flying QF from SYD-SIN in F and then flying on to HKG on CX (they have at least one flight a day with F). This is doable because you need to do HKG-N. America on a separate redemption.

4. Keep in mind that when trying to get 2 F Seats from N. America to HKG the easiest way is always to do CX from YYZ which has very good availability. When flying with a companion, CX Business can be quite annoying because of the Herringbone configuration. Seats are also a bit too narrow for my liking.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 10:32:46 AM


I can only strongly suggest you spend shabbes in kehilat zion on the kowloon side. The food was amazing, beats every 5 star hotel. The atmosphere was very nice and its within short walking distance to a sheraton. There is also a shangrila right next to it. I stayed in the intercontinental grand standford.



 I ate by both and KZ had a reg davening and meal while Chabad in Kowloon at least that fri night was more like a Purim Seuda and Isreali folk song festival and we had 10 men but not 10 davening, while KZ pretty much everyone was Shomer shabbos with a few exceptions

 Why dont I see Dan davening or eating anywhere when theres a Chabad to be had, especially in Kowloon where Chabad and KZ to put it best  dont get along

 BTW the food at chabad on Fri night wasnt bad and there was plenty of it, just the atmoshere wasnt my cup of tea for the davening or during the meal.While KZ is sefard but I was very comfortable davening with a reg minyan
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 22, 2010, 10:34:46 AM
Dan, u wanted to try turkish first class. Jfk-ist-hkg is all with the 777. The lease of turkish on these planes expires next year, i think you should consider it.


Would require a full day stopover in Istanbul which is not recommended at the moment.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 10:39:44 AM
Would require a full day stopover in Istanbul which is not recommended at the moment.

You might want to check out the Turkey Master thread (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=2635.0) before staying in Istanbul.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 22, 2010, 10:45:51 AM
Would require a full day stopover in Istanbul which is not recommended at the moment.

I did it a week ago and was given a horrible "4*" hotel complimentary by THY.... IT was a nightmare!! no AC, and the water was off for 2 hours, and I opted to stay in the hotel the entire time. In a week I fly through once more, this time overnight, but I booked my own hotel, great rate at the airport courtyard (brand new) for $72 after taxes.. (normally $150-200)..

Airport is not at all dangerous and I personally don't see any problems in going to any hotels and hanging out there.

Surprisingly quite a few people working in the airport including Passport security, airline workers and some at dutyfree said shalom and were very friendly, I believe there are still people secular nice people who prefer israelis over fanatic muslims...

oh, and there is also a hotel inside the terminal so you don't even need to enter turkey.. It's pricey though!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 10:55:07 AM
I did it a week ago and was given a horrible "4*" hotel complimentary by THY.... IT was a nightmare!! no AC, and the water was off for 2 hours, and I opted to stay in the hotel the entire time. In a week I fly through once more, this time overnight, but I booked my own hotel, great rate at the airport courtyard (brand new) for $72 after taxes.. (normally $150-200)..

Airport is not at all dangerous and I personally don't see any problems in going to any hotels and hanging out there.

Surprisingly quite a few people working in the airport including Passport security, airline workers and some at dutyfree said shalom and were very friendly, I believe there are still people secular nice people who prefer israelis over fanatic muslims...

oh, and there is also a hotel inside the terminal so you don't even need to enter turkey.. It's pricey though!
Its the airport hotel, not very nice, with 2 entrances, one before and one after customs.

there are some very nice people in Turkey, I love turkey, however just one guy thats a fanatic spots you...

People are already stupid enough sometimes, no need to encourage please.

I did already loads of crazy SHIfT in my life, but some things are just plain stupid.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 11:08:22 AM


Grand Hyatt is a (very) old hotel and does have stair access as far as I know.

 have U ever been inside? I have its very Modern the furnishings in the room are all new and moderrn, the Lounge up on top is a 2 story Lounge with great views over to Kowloon and the Harbour.The star ferry has a dock a few mins walk closer to the Renassiance which a person can walk to via a shared pool area garden setting

 this GH is very grand, only IMO on the wrong side of the harbour but is full of business people all the time and HKI is what they need and want. The Peninsula in Kowloon is Very old would U recommend people to stay away from there? I would unless they have very deep pockets but with very deep pockets Id tell them go for it!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 11:12:04 AM
Dan,

 As a veteran of both Hong Kong and Australia, I'd offer the following advice:

1. CX First is amazing but when booking with AA Miles, you need to book two separate tickets, as N. America to South Pacific is only allowed via the Pacific. If you are springing for the extra miles and doing CX, try and get Qantas F from HKG-SYD as CX does not operate F to Australia. My advice would be to fly one way via the Pacific Islands (Bora Bora?) and New Zealand on Air New Zealand in Business/First (which is in my opinion much better than CX business comfort wise) and return via Hong Kong on QF & CX.

2. Walking from the Grand Hyatt to either Chabad or Ohel Leah is not really doable. Think San Francisco type hills. I love Shabbos in Kowloon and besides Kowloon is a much more authentic Hong Kong experience. Hong Kong Island is like Manhattan or Frankfurt. My advice for you would be to use the IC F&F rate at either Intercontinental in Kowloon or stay in the Sheraton on C+P

3. If you have the time, I'd advise you to maximize your trip by stopping in Singapore for a day (or two if possible). You can do that by flying QF from SYD-SIN in F and then flying on to HKG on CX (they have at least one flight a day with F). This is doable because you need to do HKG-N. America on a separate redemption.

4. Keep in mind that when trying to get 2 F Seats from N. America to HKG the easiest way is always to do CX from YYZ which has very good availability. When flying with a companion, CX Business can be quite annoying because of the Herringbone configuration. Seats are also a bit too narrow for my liking.
Seems like a OW award is the way to go, no?

Wow, so it seems both Hyatts are out.

Anyone know anything about the W in Kowloon?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 11:16:26 AM
Seems like a OW award is the way to go, no?

Wow, so it seems both Hyatts are out.

Anyone know anything about the W in Kowloon?

 the W is up by the airport express station a nice long walk

 best Hotels are Sheraton,Peninsula,Intecontinnental,ShangRiLa, Holiday Golden mile for being close to KZ or chabad Id recommend any of these for Shabbos, during the week anywhere is fine

 I know people who have stayed at each of these Hotels over shabbbos and no one ever told me they ran into any problems. I personally stayed at the now Closed Renaissance
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 22, 2010, 12:28:50 PM

Anyone know anything about the W in Kowloon?

Yes, I stayed there last summer. Typical Hip W with the most amazing rooftop outdoor pool I've ever seen. It's on something like the 82nd floor! They treat PLATs very well

Location is not doable for Shabbos though its only a few minute taxi ride from all of the action
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 22, 2010, 12:29:59 PM
Seems like a OW award is the way to go, no?

If you've got a lot of AA points, and you really want to fly CX then yes. But if you are open to other airlines then i'd probably go with an Aeroplan mini RTW
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 03:46:23 PM
Yes, I stayed there last summer. Typical Hip W with the most amazing rooftop outdoor pool I've ever seen. It's on something like the 82nd floor! They treat PLATs very well

Location is not doable for Shabbos though its only a few minute taxi ride from all of the action
Looks like it's jut 1.3 miles from Chabad of Kowloon and 1.4 from KZ, is it really not walkable?
If you've got a lot of AA points, and you really want to fly CX then yes. But if you are open to other airlines then i'd probably go with an Aeroplan mini RTW
What routing/class would you suggest from CLE to HKG and SYD (and 1 more city?)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 22, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
Best Routing would be:

CLE-LAX on CO
LAX-AKL on NZ (Stop in the Pacific Islands?)
AKL-SYD on NZ
SYD-HKG on TG or SQ
HKG-CLE via NRT/ICN & NYC/ORD/IAD/LAX/SFP on ANA Or Asiana

100k/140k using Aeroplan Miles
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 22, 2010, 04:07:26 PM
Looks like it's jut 1.3 miles from Chabad of Kowloon and 1.4 from KZ, is it really not walkable?

All of the rooms are on very high floors
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 04:14:49 PM
All of the rooms are on very high floors

keeps you fit.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 04:34:05 PM
All of the rooms are on very high floors

 thats the same problem with The Conrad and JWMarriott on HKI and more and more alot of Hotels are occupying mixed use buildings and taking the Top or Middle floors, which means becareful if palnning to be there over Shabbos or YT
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
I was in the Island over shabbos, at the bischoplei.

They were so kind to lower us to the 9th floor.

They were aware of the jewish 'problem' using cards to get into the rooms. So they always sent a guy along. The funny part is that those guys never used the elevator on shabbos, and walked up the stairs (even if i didn't walk with him).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 04:56:31 PM
I was in the Island over shabbos, at the bischoplei.

They were so kind to lower us to the 9th floor.

They were aware of the jewish 'problem' using cards to get into the rooms. So they always sent a guy along. The funny part is that those guys never used the elevator on shabbos, and walked up the stairs (even if i didn't walk with him).
You use the elevator on Shabbos with a goy?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 22, 2010, 04:57:05 PM
You use the elevator on Shabbos with a goy?

I don't, nor do I use a saturday-gentile.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 05:16:36 PM
You use the elevator on Shabbos with a goy?

 why not as long as  the Goy isnt with You or doing anything for You. So walk into a building and a goy presses for the El and you go in with them and leave at whatever floor they do.

that said I cant ever remember relying on this and riding an El with a Goy

 Now a Lift is a different problem

  sort of like walking thru an Electric door when a goy does in order to get in or out of the building,a revolving door is a big problem
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 22, 2010, 05:37:19 PM
why not as long as  the Goy isnt with You or doing anything for You. So walk into a building and a goy presses for the El and you go in with them and leave at whatever floor they do.

that said I cant ever remember relying on this and riding an El with a Goy

 Now a Lift is a different problem

  sort of like walking thru an Electric door when a goy does in order to get in or out of the building,a revolving door is a big problem
An elevator is an entirely different halachic shailoh than an electronic door.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 22, 2010, 05:44:25 PM
An elevator is an entirely different halachic shailoh than an electronic door.

 I understood that but I know numerous Rabbis that allow riding an El as long as you dont ask the goy to do anything on your behalf or hint at them to do something eg Oh you are going to the 10th floor a pity you arent staying on the 25th like me so I guess I will simply walk up the other 15 flights, hoping the goy will simply press the 25th button for you. But alot will say going in and saying nothing or hinting nothing and getting out on whatever floor they do is OK
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Shlomi on June 23, 2010, 08:31:30 AM
have U ever been inside? I have its very Modern the furnishings in the room are all new and moderrn, the Lounge up on top is a 2 story Lounge with great views over to Kowloon and the Harbour.The star ferry has a dock a few mins walk closer to the Renassiance which a person can walk to via a shared pool area garden setting

 this GH is very grand, only IMO on the wrong side of the harbour but is full of business people all the time and HKI is what they need and want. The Peninsula in Kowloon is Very old would U recommend people to stay away from there? I would unless they have very deep pockets but with very deep pockets Id tell them go for it!

I have been looking through my post over and over. Where do you find I told someone to 'stay away' from the Grand Hyatt?
I said that since it is a very old (25+) hotel it has stair access.
And for your question - I have been to the GH a few times.

By the way - it is not good to show your ignorance in public.
Just for you to know riding an elevator on Shabbos IS an issue. Regardless if you tell a goy or not.
When you enter an elevator - your weight affects the amount of energy used in order to move the elevator. This is, according to many opinions, 'gromo' which prohibited on Shabbos. The fact you don't acknowledge that - does not mean it doesn't exist.
You could look into asking Rabbi Halperin from the Halachic Technology Institute.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Shlomi on June 23, 2010, 08:41:47 AM
I ate by both and KZ had a reg davening and meal while Chabad in Kowloon at least that fri night was more like a Purim Seuda and Isreali folk song festival and we had 10 men but not 10 davening, while KZ pretty much everyone was Shomer shabbos with a few exceptions

 Why dont I see Dan davening or eating anywhere when theres a Chabad to be had, especially in Kowloon where Chabad and KZ to put it best  dont get along

 BTW the food at chabad on Fri night wasnt bad and there was plenty of it, just the atmoshere wasnt my cup of tea for the davening or during the meal.While KZ is sefard but I was very comfortable davening with a reg minyan

Have you not yet learned your lesson from last time we had the same discussion here?
Again you are bashing Chabad.
Do yourself a favor "steve" (A fine Jewish name) - next time you get to HK - stick to the Shomer Shabbos "reg minyan". Chabad could handle without "Tzadikim" of this kind.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on June 23, 2010, 10:08:39 AM
As much as some people will check-in at a hotel with lots of floors, which has a shabbos elevator, and will use it, without bothering to ask at check-in for a lower room. (I'm talking about healthy people), which IS a problem.

Its a big bedi'eved, as pointed out before due to the 'ribuy shiurim' of burning additional fuel (or using more electricity).
The same goes to shuttle buses/trams/trains/etc that carry people for free.

To Steve II: I'm not lubavitch or affiliated to it, and you know it.

However, although they don't keep your shita, I'm sure that you will agree, that the shluchim in places like HKG, don't go there because they have gypsy blood or so, as they have often little kids, and would much rather live in Israel or USA, in a regular kehilla.
Although you maybe don't agree to their shitos, I'm sure you agree that the shlichim mean it leshem shamayim, and if it were solely with business in mind, I'm sure people with a willpower such as some shluchim have (that live in the far away places), could find more lucrative businesses.

So let's stay nice.
 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 23, 2010, 11:04:33 AM
I have been looking through my post over and over. Where do you find I told someone to 'stay away' from the Grand Hyatt?
I said that since it is a very old (25+) hotel it has stair access.
And for your question - I have been to the GH a few times.

By the way - it is not good to show your ignorance in public.
Just for you to know riding an elevator on Shabbos IS an issue. Regardless if you tell a goy or not.
When you enter an elevator - your weight affects the amount of energy used in order to move the elevator. This is, according to many opinions, 'gromo' which prohibited on Shabbos. The fact you don't acknowledge that - does not mean it doesn't exist.
You could look into asking Rabbi Halperin from the Halachic Technology Institute.

 1- when you said it was a (very) old Hotel , I took it that you were saying there were more modern places and not only pertaining to if there were stairs or not. Since Dan LUVS modern Hotels I thought you were saying stya elsewhere. seems from this explanation of yurs I was Wrong in how I read your sentence

 2- as for Elevators I happen to have asked and was told what I posted, even you on pg 1 of this thread posted "(and not trust the heter to go with the goy in the elevator)" so even you posted that there is a heter for doing this yet on this post I quote seem to be saying something else

 and Im very aware of that some els work by accessing the weight and then using more electricity if it needs to due to the weight issue
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 23, 2010, 11:25:37 AM
Have you not yet learned your lesson from last time we had the same discussion here?
Again you are bashing Chabad.
Do yourself a favor "steve" (A fine Jewish name) - next time you get to HK - stick to the Shomer Shabbos "reg minyan". Chabad could handle without "Tzadikim" of this kind.

 I see from Dans map that C Kowloon no longer is on Mody in a narrow walk up building on the 3rd floor. I was there back in Feb '08 were U there then, if U want I will try and get the exact Fri night but I will repeat there was a minyan but not 10 shomer shabbos men, bottles of vodka were being empited as if there was no tommorrow. The majority of songs that were sang were Israeli folk songs . I couldnt help but have feel that I was at a Purim Seuda, not what I would call a Shabbos meal that I look forward to being at, while Im sure others would love that type of meal

When asked if we were coming back on Shabbos morn for the minyan and meal , I indicated I was going to KZ and the Rabbi  tried to convince me not to and that they were questionable. Not saying this was You as I have no idea if you were even there then

No when I looked at Dans link to Chabad HK it lists restaurants on HKI but none in Kowloon, thusly I may be wrong but I take it that C of K doesnt have food during the week , so why doesnt it list KZ, which does?  shall I guess, Id say things between the 2 places havent changed since I was in HK last in 2/08

 Have I not learnt my lesson? what R U talking about . I guess you havent read this thread Dan asked to leave local politics out and it seems you dont wish to. till now I havent Bashed C of K, but I was told when at KZ in 2/08 that Reb Ovadia Yosef put C of K into Hearim after not closing up after he said they should

 But I do feel that theres nothing wrong letting others know what they just might run into befopre doing so.My friend said he preferred Chabad to davening Sefradi at KZ so he went back  and stayed for lunch, I stopped by on the way back to my Hotel and didnt feel Welcomed but more like I was a traitor by what the Rabbi had said to me, that was and is his Problem. I needed to discuss arrangements with my friend for the rest of the day and we werent in the same room at the Hotel nor floor. the rabbi didnt like that I went to KZ nor that I stopped by to speak to my friend

 I have nothing against C of HKI a nice former Detroit person at that, nor have I been there .

 so now you want to lower yourself to slander a person who has a given name other then a Hebrew 1, keep going you are showing your True self are you sure you are  Ahvas Yisroel doesnt seem so to me

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 23, 2010, 11:45:37 AM
As much as some people will check-in at a hotel with lots of floors, which has a shabbos elevator, and will use it, without bothering to ask at check-in for a lower room. (I'm talking about healthy people), which IS a problem.

Its a big bedi'eved, as pointed out before due to the 'ribuy shiurim' of burning additional fuel (or using more electricity).
The same goes to shuttle buses/trams/trains/etc that carry people for free.

To Steve II: I'm not lubavitch or affiliated to it, and you know it.

However, although they don't keep your shita, I'm sure that you will agree, that the shluchim in places like HKG, don't go there because they have gypsy blood or so, as they have often little kids, and would much rather live in Israel or USA, in a regular kehilla.
Although you maybe don't agree to their shitos, I'm sure you agree that the shlichim mean it leshem shamayim, and if it were solely with business in mind, I'm sure people with a willpower such as some shluchim have (that live in the far away places), could find more lucrative businesses.

So let's stay nice.
 

 Im nice , and as I once posted have relatives that were and are Shlichim and 1 even published a few books. And yes I have had the exact same talk with them and maybe since they were US based and didnt have the Shabbos meals or restaurant setup they didnt run into what I found in Asia. They said they understood the wanting to Reach out to the backpacker types and at the same time w/o a reg local Jewish community they would need to rely on other means to raise $$$ and set afloat.
 
 The C of HKI was and is warmly greeted into the community if anything I was told the community raised the $$ needed to buy the Rabbi his home and thusly beable to remain in HKI. But in alot of other places its anything but Peace between Chabad and the locals. Which doesnt affect C of K since there arent many Jews living in Kowloon at all, less then a handful at least that was the case in 2/08
 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 23, 2010, 11:48:49 AM
 Now if anyone would read this thread from pg 1(Shlomi) they would read where the whole discussion was where I was telling Dan to stay in Kowloon for Shabbos over HKI.Nothing about where he should daven was being discussed but rather which part of HK to stay in was the Subject

 the next to last post on pg 1 was by chuchem, who suggested to Dan to eat by KZ on pg 2 I quoted chuchem and even said that the food at C of K was also very good but also posted what I didnt care about it. I guess Im only allowed to say what I liked and not what I didnt
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 23, 2010, 06:51:02 PM
I dont want to get involved in this politics. All I can say is, I enjoyed the KZ meals very much and the davening and atmosphere was very nice. I dont think any place can beat their food, but thats a side issue. I looked at both options and spoke to guys that have been in Kowloon in Ch. and KZ and everyone said go to KZ. I am sure chabad does amazing kiruv work there and means it well, but maybe we can agree, that Ch. fokus in Kowloon is the non frum tourists and business people and KZ is focused on the more relig. ones. Nothing wrong with that, chabad deserves respect for that. But they should then understand, why frum people rather avoid them.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 23, 2010, 07:09:01 PM
I dont want to get involved in this politics. All I can say is, I enjoyed the KZ meals very much and the davening and atmosphere was very nice. I dont think any place can beat their food, but thats a side issue. I looked at both options and spoke to guys that have been in Kowloon in Ch. and KZ and everyone said go to KZ. I am sure chabad does amazing kiruv work there and means it well, but maybe we can agree, that Ch. fokus in Kowloon is the non frum tourists and business people and KZ is focused on the more relig. ones. Nothing wrong with that, chabad deserves respect for that. But they should then understand, why frum people rather avoid them.



 as I posted already I ate at both back in Feb '08, Chabad at night when they were on Mody st (no longer there it seems from Dans map) and KZ for Lunch on Shabbos

 the food was good by BOTH as I previously posted

 Atmosphere was anything but the same as I also have posted already and Agree 100% with your comments

Also KZ offers a free breakfast for those who daven there during the week in the morning.Since the restaurant is Fleshig breakfast is parve but you wont leave hungry, no menu they simply keep dropping plates of food on the table when they see the supply is getting low

 KZ is open for lunch and dinner as a reg restaurant. Cant comment on it as we never made it back to Kowloon in time before they closed

 chuchem did U ever daven at the reg Shul in Venice, I did Fri night and for Shabbos morning went straight to Chabad! Besides that Chabad had a/c and the shul didnt , I couldnt figure out Nusach Italian to save my life. My friend that I traveled with that only hits Chabad went to the reg shul maybe cause by the time we got there they were well into it while Chabad hadnt started yet

 I also would expect that chabad on HKI in the Mid Levels would be more like Venice with reg Religious people making up the minyan or at least those who live in HK up there , so a very different crowd Im sure then C of K attracts or gets
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Shlomi on June 23, 2010, 09:33:24 PM
I guess Im only allowed to say what I liked and not what I didnt

I'm not saying "only allowed" but it is definitely better if you focus on telling people what is GOOD in KZ, if you want to recommend them going there, and NOT what is bad in Chabad (in your eyes) or anywhere else.
Simple as that.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 23, 2010, 10:02:32 PM
I'm not saying "only allowed" but it is definitely better if you focus on telling people what is GOOD in KZ, if you want to recommend them going there, and NOT what is bad in Chabad (in your eyes) or anywhere else.
Simple as that.

 then you Never understood me.I wasnt telling people NOT to go to You and Only to KZ. I was simply letting people know what I ran into at both and what each was offering and then they can decide where they want to go by themselves.

as chumchem implied why would you want a person who is Religious coming to You and walking out and being ticked off when they found out there wasnt a minyan of 10 Religious Jews or the atmosphere of the meals on Shabbos

and if there was a 3rd place that davened Ashkenaz thats where you would find me.

 Now back to my outstanding question, why doesnt your site list KZ when it comes to Restaurants? they list The Grill on HKI which has Shabbos meals and is a Kollel I believe just as KZ is. As well as were You the Rabbi in charge back in 2/08 when C of K was on Mody St? (till this thread I had no idea that you were in charge today of C of K, I realized that was the case when you posted how you tried to make arrangements with the Hyatt)

BTW do U yourself live all week in Kowloon?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 24, 2010, 04:09:43 PM
steve im surprised a rov allowed you to use the elevator. the issue of weight balance is a problem with some shabbos elevators. but in this case its far worse. a goy is not allowed to do melocho for you whether or not you ask or hint to him, and if he does its ossur to have hanaah from the melocho. thus if a goy turns ON a light for you, whether you asked him or not, you cant derive pleasure from it. however youre allowed to hint to a goy to turn OFF a light.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 24, 2010, 04:51:33 PM
steve im surprised a rov allowed you to use the elevator. the issue of weight balance is a problem with some shabbos elevators. but in this case its far worse. a goy is not allowed to do melocho for you whether or not you ask or hint to him, and if he does its ossur to have hanaah from the melocho. thus if a goy turns ON a light for you, whether you asked him or not, you cant derive pleasure from it. however youre allowed to hint to a goy to turn OFF a light.

 yep not my reg 1 either.

hes a relative and was a Rav in a number of Countrys mainly Kiruv work although he had a Shul. I too was surprised when he mentioned that when staying by his daughter who had an apt on a very high floor he did exactly what I posted. He also gave up his position at a Shul when he refused to use certain things they wanted him to on Shabbos

 But as I said I dont remember ever using an El that wasnt checked out (certain Israeli Hotels) before hand that were known to be AOK.

 Theres a difference of opinion if the goy is doing it for you or for themselves , and as long as its for themselves then it was OK.

 The light business sorry but I believe you are  wrong. The pt is to ask a goy in and to feed them something and tell them to sit by the dining room table, its dark so he turns on the light (although most people simply ask them) so then U are saying you cant use that light? I never heard of that and have heard the complete opposite. The main problem is how you get the goy to do it
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 24, 2010, 05:00:14 PM
to be clear. if he turns it on for you, you cannot derive pleasure. if he turns it on for himself, its a different story and you can use it even after he leaves. in your scenario, he turned it on for himself
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on June 24, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
to be clear. if he turns it on for you, you cannot derive pleasure. if he turns it on for himself, its a different story and you can use it even after he leaves. in your scenario, he turned it on for himself

 now You Got it , now the same can be applied to an El as long as the goy is using the El for himself you can tag along (for now leave out the weight issue) but you must get off when he does and then walk up or down the stairs to your floor unless by some weird chance you struck Gold and they were heading to your floor as well. A person shouldnt  say to them Oh too bad youre only going to the 10th floor and not the 25th now I will have to walk the 15 flights by the stairs to get up there, nor if he asks what floor do U want after he presses the 1 he wants can you tell him, instead you have to say Thanks but I also need the 10th

 now back to HK
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 24, 2010, 06:35:57 PM
....or back to the weight issue
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: andrew on July 01, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
Dan, read my tripreport. I was in hong kong and think 2 days is enough to see all. It depends how much shopping you want to do. I stayesd from friday till sunday night, that was fine.
I can only strongly suggest you spend shabbes in kehilat zion on the kowloon side. The food was amazing, beats every 5 star hotel. The atmosphere was very nice and its within short walking distance to a sheraton. There is also a shangrila right next to it. I stayed in the intercontinental grand standford.
The f and f rate was about the same as cash and pointd with starwood


hi i noticed that you have stayed in the intercontinentle hong kong,
i saw that there are 2 of them near kowloon, which one is closer to the shul,
what should i expect in the intercontinentel standford  if i plan to be there over shabbos, do they have phisical key rooms? are there low floors?
electronic doors?electronic lights?
are there any issues like this in the starwood property or the shangri la, how far walking are they from the shull
you could be of real help if you reply in detail.
which restaurent closes the latest and what time ie. weekdays?
if i arrive at 10pm on thursday night and leave sunday morning is that enough time to get in the main attractions?
i plan on going to beijing afterwords have you been there?
i have from thursday evening to wed afternoon to hit up hong kong and beijing, how would you plan it out, on which day and at what time would you fly out of hong kong to beijing
thank you very much hope to hear back very soon
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 01, 2010, 10:47:40 AM
hi i noticed that you have stayed in the intercontinentle hong kong,
i saw that there are 2 of them near kowloon, which one is closer to the shul,
GRAND STANFORD IS CLOSER
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what should i expect in the intercontinentel standford  if i plan to be there over shabbos
THEY WILL SEND SOMEONE UP TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR YOU,
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do they have phisical key rooms?
NO THEY DONT
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are there low floors?
YES THERE ARE
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electronic doors?electronic lights?
NO ELECTRONIC LIGHTS
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are there any issues like this in the starwood property or the shangri la, how far walking are they from the shull
you could be of real help if you reply in detail.
ALL QUITE CLOSE
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which restaurent closes the latest and what time ie. weekdays?
CHECK UP THE WEBSITES ONLINE, DONT KNOW IT ANYMORE
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if i arrive at 10pm on thursday night and leave sunday morning is that enough time to get in the main attractions?
I THINK THAT YES
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i plan on going to beijing afterwords have you been there?
YES READ MY TRIPREPORT ON BEIJING
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i have from thursday evening to wed afternoon to hit up hong kong and beijing, how would you plan it out, on which day and at what time would you fly out of hong kong to beijing
GO TO BEIJING SUNDAY, SPEND ONE DAY IN BEIJING AND ONE FOR THE GREAT WALL INCL. OLYMPIC VILLAGE
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thank you very much hope to hear back very soon
YOU ARE WELCOME ;-)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 01, 2010, 12:10:40 PM
hi i noticed that you have stayed in the intercontinentle hong kong,
i saw that there are 2 of them near kowloon, which one is closer to the shul,
what should i expect in the intercontinentel standford  if i plan to be there over shabbos, do they have phisical key rooms? are there low floors?
electronic doors?electronic lights?
are there any issues like this in the starwood property or the shangri la, how far walking are they from the shull
you could be of real help if you reply in detail.
which restaurent closes the latest and what time ie. weekdays?
if i arrive at 10pm on thursday night and leave sunday morning is that enough time to get in the main attractions?
i plan on going to beijing afterwords have you been there?
i have from thursday evening to wed afternoon to hit up hong kong and beijing, how would you plan it out, on which day and at what time would you fly out of hong kong to beijing
thank you very much hope to hear back very soon

 the closest Hotel to KZ is The Shangri-la which is the building to the Left of the building that KZ is in (BTW KZ is located in a building with an attirum mini mall and is on the 3rd level there are escalators ask your Rav about using them and stairs ).

 to the left of SL is the INC Stanford the other INC is located apx 15 walk along the Harbour walk area since I never walked into either I cant comment about them

The Sheraton is also apx a 10-15 min walk from KZ

 all the restaurants have extremely Limited hours and only a few at that and are located by the shuls (apart of them)

 as for Beijing heres a good site to see it all with them in 2 days ,I did itand it was very good (i did the 1st 2 small group tours) http://sinohotelguide.com/travel/index.php

 I was there before the Olympic Village was there but why visit a sports stadium when you can do that anywhere


 Lastly for Shabbos I always LOCK my valuables away in a safe or my bag and simply put a piece of cardboard (that I cut small) into the door so that the tongue of the lock cant extend into the hole for it, so when I get back all I need to do is push the door and it opens up. Make sure you leave the Do Not Disturb sign on the outside of your door, and it doesnt hurt to ask for a low floor least housekeeping tried your door saw it was open and ended up locking it so now you need to go downstairs in order for them to send someone up to open it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 01, 2010, 04:06:44 PM
Lastly for Shabbos I always LOCK my valuables away in a safe or my bag and simply put a piece of cardboard (that I cut small) into the door so that the tongue of the lock cant extend into the hole for it, so when I get back all I need to do is push the door and it opens up. Make sure you leave the Do Not Disturb sign on the outside of your door, and it doesnt hurt to ask for a low floor least housekeeping tried your door saw it was open and ended up locking it so now you need to go downstairs in order for them to send someone up to open it.

+1
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 15, 2010, 03:04:06 PM
i'm assuming this belongs somewhere here:) my wife and i are going to be in kowloon in 2 weeks for 3 days including shabbos,with our infant daughter,we were told we are allowed to have a non-jew push her stroller to kehilas zion,where we plan on joining for meals/davening,is there an escalator to get into the shul? from what i've read,the shrangi la hotel is the best location? what is there to do in hong kong? any tips as to what to see,where to eat or anything else would be greatly appreciated? thanks so much!(best spot for custom suits?)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Eli on July 15, 2010, 03:04:42 PM
Did you read this thread?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 15, 2010, 03:08:08 PM
yes,but i wasn't 100 percent sure:)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: steve2 on July 15, 2010, 03:26:47 PM
 
i'm assuming this belongs somewhere here:) my wife and i are going to be in kowloon in 2 weeks for 3 days including shabbos,with our infant daughter,we were told we are allowed to have a non-jew push her stroller to kehilas zion,where we plan on joining for meals/davening,is there an escalator to get into the shul? from what i've read,the shrangi la hotel is the best location? what is there to do in hong kong? any tips as to what to see,where to eat or anything else would be greatly appreciated? thanks so much!(best spot for custom suits?)
its all mentioned already but yes there are 2 escaltors,as KZ is on the 2nd floor not including the ground floor.

Shrangi la having the best location depends what for, being closest to KZ yep, most other things nope but maybe an extra 10 mins walk

 where to eat KZ or the JCC on HKI no reg restaurants, what to do thats very simple Reread this thread! and you will have yur answers
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 15, 2010, 03:38:40 PM
ok,thanks,appreciate all the help!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 15, 2010, 06:28:21 PM
there are also stairs to get to kz. not necessary to use escalator
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 12:07:43 AM
great!one less halachic issue :D
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2010, 04:17:01 AM
you just gotta look for it but its there
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 07:23:57 AM
i am going to need a non-jew to bring my daughter in her carriage on shabbos from hotel to kehilas zion,we plan on staying at the shrangi la,next door,seems like the hotel is afraid of sending one of their staff to walk with us,any recommendations?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 16, 2010, 07:35:16 AM
i am going to need a non-jew to bring my daughter in her carriage on shabbos from hotel to kehilas zion,we plan on staying at the shrangi la,next door,seems like the hotel is afraid of sending one of their staff to walk with us,any recommendations?

Just ask the doorman. It's about 20 Feet
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Eli on July 16, 2010, 09:07:04 AM
C'mon, 20 feet? It's more like 30...all the way across the driveway..
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 10:35:01 AM
wow!didn't realize it was that close!great!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: andrew on July 18, 2010, 08:11:56 AM
must one get a visa to go from hong kong to macau?
""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" shenzen?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 18, 2010, 08:37:20 AM
shenzen - yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: andrew on July 18, 2010, 09:17:02 AM
i only got a one entry visa, so your saying that i could either got to beijing or shanzen but not both is that correct?
and about macau do u mean i dont need a visa or you just dont know?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Eli on July 18, 2010, 09:30:48 AM
I do not believe you need a visa for Macau as it is part of Hong Kong. But, as we are so fond of saying here on the forum...it is certainly something you can google and find out pretty easily. Let me teach you...

http://tinyurl.com/2w2srhm
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 18, 2010, 09:58:05 AM
youre probably right that  the one entry is either or, so if youre going to beijing, its prob anyways not necessary to go to shenzen, as they have the silk market
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 18, 2010, 12:25:40 PM
For Shenzen you need a china visa. If you have a single entry visa and are planning on going to Beijing is not good. I heard you can buy visas at the border in Shenzen, not sure. I got a double entry visa when I went, just in case something came up. Didnt end up using it but it was only 20 Dollars more

Macau, you will not need your china visa. Some countries require a visa, but they will be issued at passport controll. My swiss passport didnt need it, so it was just a stamp.

If you go to Beijing, there is no need for Shenzen!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Eli on July 18, 2010, 02:10:28 PM
You DO NOT need a visa to enter Macau if you are a member of almost any normal country. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Macau#Passports_issued_by_eligible_countries.2Fterritories_valid_for_visa-free_entry_to_Macao
Title: Hong Kong Hotel
Post by: Tommy on October 22, 2010, 10:16:57 AM
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions on getting a nice hotel in Hong Kong.  I've been checking the rates and they are pretty high because of some trade shows going on.  I need 2 nights on 11/4 and 11/5.  I have Diamond status on Hyatt and about 30K points and alot of AMEX points.  Just trying to figure out whats the best deal.  If anyone has ideas please let me know. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2010, 04:47:25 PM
So I'm going to be doing a nice amount of time in HKG unless CX starts opening up availability on some flights.  Namely we arrive at 7am on Wednesday and depart to BKK at 10pm that night.  As of now no earlier flights to BKK are open.

And we arrive at 6am on a Friday and don't depart until Wednesday at 4:30pm, so 5 nights in HKG unless CX opens up a flight to YYZ on Sunday-Tuesday.

Any recommendations?  Maybe it's worth going to a tailor then and to return to him on the way back?

For shabbos I think I would like to be at the HKG island chabad.  So that means either:
-Burning 100K HH points for 2 nights at the Conrad which is less than a mile away.
-There are rooms for under $100 at the Garden View Hotel right next-door to Chabad.  Anyone ever been there?
There's also the grand hyatt, but apparently it's too far to walk?

I would like to stay at the W HKG in Kowloon, I guess for the next 3 nights.
Can I do Macau as a day-trip or is it worth spending a night at the Grand Hyatt there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 18, 2010, 12:50:32 AM
definitely get some clothes made. the victoria peak is a must but only if the weather is clear.
as far as shabbos, i have to say ive stayed many a shabbos around the world and the most amazing experience bar none is at kz in kowloon (thanks damaxer). theres a sheraton five mins away that gives suites on low floors to shomer shabbbos plats. but as a chabadnik you have to support the troops? i guess...
i would also go to shenzen for some shopping too while there
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 18, 2010, 02:29:19 AM
Garden View is nothing like any of the fancy hotels, but for it's convenience (being right next to Chabad) it may be worth considering... I stayed there many times, but it's before some of the renovations they've done (why waste lotsa points on a shabbos?!)

Makes sense to stop by tailor both times you stuff will be ready... if you want a suit you'll need a second fitting anyway. Lotsa people use Jantzen and are quite happy with them....  (kapota is also an option..)

If you are there till wednesday that' seems like a long time in HK... definitely make a day trip to Shenzen and check out the mall, it's an interesting experience, and you can bring back some interesting souvenirs and gifts (fake watches, shoes, electronics, and just about anything else..)

how long is this trip for? just Thailand and HK?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on November 18, 2010, 02:42:40 AM
Lotsa people use Jantzen and are quite happy with them....  (kapota is also an option..)

Jantzen same as this site (http://www.jantzentailor.com/)?



Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on November 18, 2010, 03:44:24 AM
how long is this trip for? just Thailand and HK?
Lol.
You have some catch-up reading (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3568.0) to do. ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2010, 10:19:33 AM
Garden View is nothing like any of the fancy hotels, but for it's convenience (being right next to Chabad) it may be worth considering... I stayed there many times, but it's before some of the renovations they've done (why waste lotsa points on a shabbos?!)

Makes sense to stop by tailor both times you stuff will be ready... if you want a suit you'll need a second fitting anyway. Lotsa people use Jantzen and are quite happy with them....  (kapota is also an option..)

If you are there till wednesday that' seems like a long time in HK... definitely make a day trip to Shenzen and check out the mall, it's an interesting experience, and you can bring back some interesting souvenirs and gifts (fake watches, shoes, electronics, and just about anything else..)

how long is this trip for? just Thailand and HK?
Thanks guys.

Here's my current itin...still holding out hope for an earlier flight to open up out of HKG.
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=3568.msg42030#msg42030



Chikky, would you recommend Chabad of HKG or Kowloon?  In Kowloon I can just use points at the Sheraton (11.5K SPG) or Intercontinental (30K PC).  But I don't mind staying at the Garden View for a shabbos for the convenience of the location and price.

Have you ever made a kapota in HKG? Do they know what they're doing?

It seems the Shenzen Visa costs different amounts based on your nationalility? How much is it with a US passport and what else is there to do there?

And Macau-is that a day trip or overnight trip?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 18, 2010, 01:30:04 PM
i forgot to mention that guide books recommend going dolphin watching as hong kong is the only place in the world that has pink dolphins. something to do if youre bored
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 19, 2010, 04:40:32 AM
For Shenzen you need a china visa. If you have a single entry visa and are planning on going to Beijing is not good. I heard you can buy visas at the border in Shenzen, not sure. I got a double entry visa when I went, just in case something came up. Didnt end up using it but it was only 20 Dollars more

Macau, you will not need your china visa. Some countries require a visa, but they will be issued at passport controll. My swiss passport didnt need it, so it was just a stamp.

If you go to Beijing, there is no need for Shenzen!

As per Shenzehn, US Citizens CANNOT buy a Visa at the border.

Oh and the market in Shenzehn is considerably better and less touristy than the Silk Market
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 21, 2010, 02:45:54 PM

Chikky, would you recommend Chabad of HKG or Kowloon?  In Kowloon I can just use points at the Sheraton (11.5K SPG) or Intercontinental (30K PC).  But I don't mind staying at the Garden View for a shabbos for the convenience of the location and price.

I spent a lot of time in HK before Kowloon was around. Kowloon will probably be more casual, but it'll definitely cost you more (you have to pay for meals etc...)  Hong Kong will be more local people probably and might be interesting to get people perspective on life there.. I would stay in HK

Have you ever made a kapota in HKG? Do they know what they're doing?

I haven't but many friend did it by Jantzen and he did a good job.. bring him your sample... he has great materials..


The rest I'm not sure, visa rules have changed a lot since I've been there, but I think it's worth the trip as it'll be totally different experience and seems like you'll be in HK a lot longer than necessary...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2010, 05:00:27 PM
I spent a lot of time in HK before Kowloon was around. Kowloon will probably be more casual, but it'll definitely cost you more (you have to pay for meals etc...)  Hong Kong will be more local people probably and might be interesting to get people perspective on life there.. I would stay in HK

I haven't but many friend did it by Jantzen and he did a good job.. bring him your sample... he has great materials..


The rest I'm not sure, visa rules have changed a lot since I've been there, but I think it's worth the trip as it'll be totally different experience and seems like you'll be in HK a lot longer than necessary...
Thanks! I reserved a HKD700 room at the Garden view for shabbos!

Anyone else know more info on Macau and Shenzen?
How much time is needed, are they worth it, etc?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 21, 2011, 09:41:04 PM
If anyone here will be in HKG over the next 2-3 weeks and doesn't mind doing me a small favor please send me a PM.
Title: Hotel near HKG airport for stopover
Post by: Devorah on December 07, 2011, 11:41:03 AM
Looking for an affordable, decent hotel near the airport for a 10 hour stopover in HKG. 

Alternatively, can anyone suggest a "tour" of HKG that can be accomplished in that time?

Thanx.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2011, 12:34:51 PM
Looking for an affordable, decent hotel near the airport for a 10 hour stopover in HKG. 

Alternatively, can anyone suggest a "tour" of HKG that can be accomplished in that time?

Thanx.
When do you arrive/depart?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on December 07, 2011, 12:44:48 PM
When do you arrive/depart?

arrive Wed 12/14 at 1:55 pm, depart that night at 11:45 pm.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2011, 12:47:24 PM
arrive Wed 12/14 at 1:55 pm, depart that night at 11:45 pm.
Plenty of time to explore part of the city!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on December 07, 2011, 01:08:03 PM
Plenty of time to explore part of the city!

any suggestions for what/how to do it?  it's for my MIL - she's on her own so would need specific instructions.

thanx
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 07, 2011, 01:14:56 PM
For your MIL traveling alone?
Lol...get her a room at the Marriott HKG SkyCity.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on December 07, 2011, 06:41:05 PM
any suggestions for what/how to do it?  it's for my MIL - she's on her own so would need specific instructions.

One way ticket... ;)

HT: SF (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10766.msg131856#msg131856)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on December 07, 2011, 07:51:18 PM
One way ticket... ;)

HT: SF (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10766.msg131856#msg131856)

LOL - she already lives on the other side of the world...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on December 07, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
get her a room at the Marriott HKG SkyCity.

a bit out of her price range.

seriously, any suggestions for her to do/see while she's there.

thanx
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: lrgfc on December 20, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
Howdy all, I am gonna have a trip from Dec 31,2011 to Jan 5 2012 to Hongkong. I checked the hotels around. It was ridiculous expensive. I should have redeem SPG hotels two weeks ago. But I tried today, all of them are unavailable. ANy one has some good advice and other places to stay? Hey Dan, you are going to stay 5 nights in HK early January there, right? Did you find any awesome deals there? thanks guys.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 20, 2011, 11:16:57 AM
? Hey Dan, you are going to stay 5 nights in HK early January there
News to.me!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on December 20, 2011, 11:40:06 AM
Howdy all, I am gonna have a trip from Dec 31,2011 to Jan 5 2012 to Hongkong. I checked the hotels around. It was ridiculous expensive. I should have redeem SPG hotels two weeks ago. But I tried today, all of them are unavailable. ANy one has some good advice and other places to stay? Hey Dan, you are going to stay 5 nights in HK early January there, right? Did you find any awesome deals there? thanks guys.

Was there this past weekend and every single hotel was full. The Chinese descend on HKG en mass to shop because there are lots of sales. Be prepared for long lines everywhere.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 20, 2011, 12:32:20 PM
where are the lines, at the ladies market? the electronic stores near the sheraton are all tourist rip offs
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: lrgfc on December 20, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
Was there this past weekend and every single hotel was full. The Chinese descend on HKG en mass to shop because there are lots of sales. Be prepared for long lines everywhere.

That is true. Chinese people from Mainland China usually go to HK for Christmas Shopping (taxes are waived in HK while sales tax in mainland is very high). That totally explains the hotel availability.  My friend told me tourists usually focus on stores in Kowloon, HK island would be fine.........now it seems everywhere is full....lol
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on December 21, 2011, 01:14:14 AM
where are the lines, at the ladies market? the electronic stores near the sheraton are all tourist rip offs

The malls. Harbor City was crazy.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 12:19:51 AM
with a 4 hr layover in HKG, should i even think about going somewhere/ doing something nearby? if not, than what to do?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 12:21:46 AM
If it was later in the day I'd tell you to take the glass bottom cable car nearby the airport, but they won't be open at that time of the morning.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 12:25:20 AM
If it was later in the day I'd tell you to take the glass bottom cable car nearby the airport, but they won't be open at that time of the morning.
so i take it that from the hours of 5:30 am till about 8:45am there aint much to do or see close by.
than my best bet is try to get a pass or someway in to CX lounge. what do i need for that?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 12:26:20 AM
Refundable J/F ticket ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 12:28:55 AM
Refundable J/F ticket ;)
lol...do they sell them passes? i thought some airlines do that
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 12:29:15 AM
I doubt CX does.
If you do book a refundable order kosher food for the lounge in advance.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 12:34:09 AM
I doubt CX does.
If you do book a refundable order kosher food for the lounge in advance.
i actually have an option for a 10 hour stopover but i didnt take it. (even though i could still prob change withen 24 hours)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 12:37:01 AM
With 10 hours you can have some fun no doubt.  That's if you can get some sleep on the flight.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 12:46:05 AM
With 10 hours you can have some fun no doubt.  That's if you can get some sleep on the flight.
so do i have to read through all 8 pages now to find out what fun i can have or will i get spoon fed service here? ;)
and sleep wise i usually have a problem with on planes (especially in coach) but maybe ill take a sleeping pill!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 12:54:00 AM
maybe ill take a sleeping pill!
Usually a good idea in coach on such long flights.
Read through the thread first and see if you get any ideas.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 01:44:28 AM
Read through the thread first and see if you get any ideas.
i read through most, didnt see much. what this forum needs is a wiki of all attractions in each destination! (it would take a long time to make though :) )
anyways i dont think im gonna change the flight besides im flying alone so its not as exciting to go tour yourself
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 01:51:28 AM
I'd go even by myself.  Peak tram, glass bottom cable car, eat at one of the 3 kosher eateries, walk around any of the shopping districts, etc.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 02:19:13 AM
Just wondering, can a nice few hours of stuff be done with around $100 - $150 or so? That's including taxis and some food. I know in shanghai its pretty cheap
Also how far is the chabad from HKG?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 02:21:09 AM
Just wondering, can a nice few hours of stuff be done with around $100 - $150 or so?
Definitely.
Chabad of Hong Kong Island (Avtzon) is off the beaten public transportation path.  Any specific reason you want to go there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2012, 02:28:52 AM
Definitely.
Chabad of Hong Kong Island (Avtzon) is off the beaten public transportation path.  Any specific reason you want to go there?
I'm not sure what the beaten path is, but no specific reason I want to go there - I just thought that's where the kosher food / restaurants are like in shanghai

In any case I think uve convinced me :) and I'm gonna work on changing the flight if not to late in the morning! But then ill only have sunday to work on a little itinerary for what exactly to do!- I just hope ppl speak english there cuz in shanghai not a word is spoken!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2012, 02:30:44 AM
Chabad of HKI has no restaurant (although shabbos food is awesome) and the kosher food is nowhere around there.
Plenty of english speakers and tons of expats around the streets of HKG.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 27, 2012, 03:12:33 AM
One way ticket... ;)

HT: SF (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=10766.msg131856#msg131856)

How do you guys find that stuff.

I have to follow a workshop in ddf search organized by ashero & aussie
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 29, 2012, 03:19:13 PM
alright i just read through the whole thread, and all i can say is that this thread should be named "Shabbos in HK' (or/and hotels)!

what i thought id find here is some answers to whats exciting to do? and comments about each thing etc... since i didnt find that so G-D willing i plan to write a small trip report of my coming 15 hr layover in HK (if ill last through it that is after a 16 hr flight).
this way the next person going to HK for a few hours or for a day doesnt have to read all the shabbos experiences :)

as for
I'd go even by myself.  Peak tram, glass bottom cable car, eat at one of the 3 kosher eateries, walk around any of the shopping districts, etc.
i just found this (http://www.np360.com.hk/html/eng/visitor/special.asp), my luck!  how else can you get to where the cable cars go to? and from reading that link it seems there is another temporary station - true?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 29, 2012, 03:30:57 PM
how else can you get to where the cable cars go to?
Let's see...HKG from a year ago.

The point for me was the glass bottom cable car, not the place where the car goes to :D  Also the line for the glass bottom car on the way back is much shorter than the non-glass bottom, so do that.
Buy a one-day unlimited metro pass if you're there for just a day.  Also it should have coupon that come with it for stuff like the cable car.
The view from the top of the peak tram is awesome. (Keep going all the way up)
Star Ferry between HKI and Kowloon is neat.
The various shopping markets are all very cool.
There's a great tailor for chabad kapotas in Admiralty center.
Taxis are pretty cheap for travel within HKI and within Kowloon.
Macau is cool, but to far by ferry to go if you're there for just a day.
The W HKG is sweeeet.

Restaurants:
The JCC on HKI is awesome on Sunday nights for their buffet.
The Pizza shop in the JCC is awful.
The fleishig restaurant in the JCC is pretty good.
Shalom Grill on HKI is reasonably priced and pretty good and they have a nice kosher store.
KZ/Mul Hayam has a decent but pretty expensive restaurant but is the only eatery in Kowloon.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 29, 2012, 03:36:50 PM
The point for me was the glass bottom cable car, not the place it goes to :D
lol..same here, i meant to say that if its already not available than ill just go to the place by taxi or so, im sure theres stuff to see on other side!

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The view from the peak tram is awesome.

Restaurants:
The JCC on HKI is awesome on Sunday nights for their buffet.
The Pizza shop in the JCC is awful.
The fleishig restaurant in the JCC is pretty good.
Shalom Grill on HKI is reasonably priced and pretty good and they have a nice kosher store.
KZ/Mul Hayam has a decent but pretty expensive restaurant but is the only eatery in Kowloon.
now we're talking! some feedback on food! thanx for the info.
regarding other attractions - i kinda put together from a bunch diff sites a plan

EDIT: i just saw ur edit. thats great info as well, it seems my research just about came to that. besides for the W (unless im knocked out!) and the kapoto place - ill keep that in mind for some other time ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on February 03, 2012, 05:34:49 AM
What to do in Hong Kong with a 15 hour layover: (this is the order i did it in) 5:30am-8pm - all currency is HKD, (100.00 HKD=$12.89 USD)

1. i took the Airport Express Train from HKG to town, and bought a Same Day pass since i was coming back that night. the train opens at 5:45am and leaves 5:55am and frequency is every 10 min. Cost: $100 HKD

2. From HK Station took a taxi to Chabad. Cost: $23

3. Minyan Shachris at 7am followed by a free Breakfast - im sure it tasty but since i had a cold and the flight only made it 10x worse so i couldnt taste anything ;(

4. left my roller handbag in Chabad house and took my (heavy full with food and a laptop) briefcase with me and Taxi'd to the Mikva (bring passport for ID) in the JCC to shower up. The mikvah was unbelievably hot and not enter-able so a shower it was - theres also a nice big shul there called Ohel Leah in the courtyard. Cost (taxi) $27

5. From there Taxi'd to The Peak Tram (http://www.thepeak.com.hk/). Make sure to go in the morning (opens at 9) because otherwise there will be a huge line to get in. i didnt have a line at 9:30. pay an extra few bucks to go to the top of the peak called "sky Terrace" where theres gorgeous views of HK island and Kowloon. Cost: Taxi- $30 / Peak incl.  sky terrace $65.

6. From there taxi's to Star Ferry (http://www.starferry.com.hk/) and took the ferry to Tsim Sha tsui (kowloon) Cost: Taxi - $24 / Ferry $2.50 !! its the cheapest way to cross (other alternative is subway about $8 or 12)

7. Walked around Tsim Sha Tsui (its an area) and theres a road called Nathan rd, where many shops are. on the way there theres the 1881 Heritage (http://www.1881heritage.com/flash/#/en/home/) building which looks nice. - i didnt enter as well as next to the port there is a big mall which i didnt go into. - in order to cross the the main street you will need to go down to the subway and exit the opposite side. just ask around if you get lost like i did!

8. than i took the train to Diamond hill - u'll need to transfer trains - just ask the info desk where. and there there's a BEAUTIFUL Garden called Nan Lian Garden (http://www.nanliangarden.org/home.php?eng) as well as a really nice place called Chi lin nunnery (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS436US436&q=chi+lin+nunnery&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=l7MrT7PZLILKrAfqu_DzDA&biw=1366&bih=624&sei=pLMrT-nvK4bSrQfDh7m7DA). i would put this #1 on my list to go to! Cost: subway each way $7.50

9. Back at the pier (Make sure when you exit the subway u look for the right exit because there are so many exits) i went to Avenue of the Stars (http://www.avenueofstars.com.hk/eng/home.asp) which has nice scenery if its a nice day - and i ate lunch there. (i had so much food with me leftover which i didnt eat on the plane)

10. i didnt have much time left so i didnt go to the museums in the area - Science, Space, Art museums. So i walked back to ferry and took that back to HK island and walked around the roads in the area - marketplaces with live food and all sorts of interesting stuff! Cost: ferry $2.50

11. i took the Light Rail (called the Tram) which runs along the main road, to Hong Kong Park and climbed all the way up to the street of the Chabad House. (HK is one big mountain so it was a nice big climb. Cost: Tram $2.30  (they dont give change so i put in $3)

12. then i stayed at Chabad for 30 min until i went back to Airport Express for my connecting Flight!
i didnt go to Lantau Island / Crystal Cable Cart (http://www.np360.com.hk/html/eng/np360_exp/crystal_cabin.html)s to see the bug budha because they were doing maintenance on the cable carts and Big budha (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS436US436&q=big+buddha&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&biw=1366&bih=624&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=qbYrT8LJGca8rAeFuPjrDA) closed at 6pm and it was cutting it close. so hopefully ill do it on return! Cost: Taxi to Train $30

i didnt go to any restaurants becasue i had lots of food with me and didnt want to waste much time (and money)

A few points to know: Dont change much money in airport unless u have no choice because they charge a nice big percent. - i changed $100 USD and they took about $9 USD from me.

Also MAKE SURE to get a map of HK/Kowloon (its one map) in the airport - it can be very helpful!
and ask around!
Hope this was Helpful. if you have any questions ill be glad to answer.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 03, 2012, 06:00:05 AM
nice report.
next time if its a bit later, you can hit up some of the night markets
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 03, 2012, 07:51:55 AM
Just to save people a trip to google $100 hkd = $13 usd
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2012, 10:19:26 AM
You did an incredible amount of stuff for a stopover.  Definitely get more done than I do as twice a day I'm running after the restaurants :D
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on February 04, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
You did an incredible amount of stuff for a stopover.  Definitely get more done than I do as twice a day I'm running after the restaurants :D
i must give some credit to you as well though, without some convincing i wouldve stayed in the airport for 4 hours and accomplished nothing. - and i realized from other reports that you "run" after restaurants but im not a big restaurant guy.
i happen to like taking a lot of pictures so i like going to lots of interesting places.
and as for so many things getting done in a stopover, this is the type of report i would've liked to see if i was going to a place but apparently not too many people do that, so i had to gather from a bunch of google searches (mainly Trip Advisor (http://www.tripadvisor.com/)) - write it all down and figure out the best way to go through it all on the map
and after all that - i barely remember take off and landing to BKK!
Title: Re: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on February 04, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
i must give some credit to you as well though, without some convincing i wouldve stayed in the airport for 4 hours and accomplished nothing. - and i realized from other reports that you "run" after restaurants but im not a big restaurant guy.
i happen to like taking a lot of pictures so i like going to lots of interesting places.
and as for so many things getting done in a stopover, this is the type of report i would've liked to see if i was going to a place but apparently not too many people do that, so i had to gather from a bunch of google searches (mainly Trip Advisor (http://www.tripadvisor.com/)) - write it all down and figure out the best way to go through it all on the map
and after all that - i barely remember take off and landing to BKK!

Can you share some pictures from your trip?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on March 05, 2012, 04:04:20 PM
Is the W HKG worth $322/night?

Worth an extra $25 to upgrade to spectacular room or $50 to fabulous room or decent chance on an upgrade with plat status?

This is for 2 nights during the week. Shabbos ill probably spend near Chabad HK.

And other hotels in a similar range to check out? Everyone raves about the W...
Dan, would love the report.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 05, 2012, 04:07:49 PM
Even with its faults we did love the W and look forward to returning.  #70 got them to open C+P space for us which made it even sweeter :D

Avoid the Garden View hotel next door to Chabad of HKI at all costs, the shliach's son told me to look into this place right across the street: http://www.twomr.com.hk/
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on March 05, 2012, 04:18:41 PM
Even with its faults we did love the W and look forward to returning.  #70 got them to open C+P space for us which made it even sweeter :D

Avoid the Garden View hotel next door to Chabad of HKI at all costs, the shliach's son told me to look into this place right across the street: http://www.twomr.com.hk/
At Cat 6 (8k points+$150) I think I would just pay $322.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 05, 2012, 04:53:05 PM
At Cat 6 (8k points+$150) I think I would just pay $322.
Should've booked 5 days ago!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on March 05, 2012, 05:05:48 PM
Should've booked 5 days ago!
True. But before today wasn't even thinking of going...
Title: Re: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 05, 2012, 10:31:38 PM
Can you share some pictures from your trip?
totally forgot about what u asked and happened to glance back at it, so here are a few pics!

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 05, 2012, 10:33:18 PM
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Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 05, 2012, 10:34:09 PM
2 more.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 16, 2012, 02:57:50 AM
with a 4 hr layover in HKG, should i even think about going somewhere/ doing something nearby? if not, than what to do?
If it was later in the day I'd tell you to take the glass bottom cable car nearby the airport, but they won't be open at that time of the morning.
my stopover is from 12:25 - 4:10. do you still recommend?
and if yes, both ways cable carts, or taxi (prob quicker) for way back.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2012, 11:26:10 PM
my stopover is from 12:25 - 4:10. do you still recommend?
and if yes, both ways cable carts, or taxi (prob quicker) for way back.
Yes.
Do whichever is quicker.
Do the glass bottom cable car both ways though, only a little more $ and then you don't have to wait in the long line back.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 20, 2012, 02:50:49 AM
Anyone familiar with both Jantzen tailor an Tai Pan? I've used both in the past along time ago wondering what current status is, which does better shirts??

Also have a 7:15am til 4:00pm stop.. Been there but taking a friend for first time is there anything better/more impressive than the peak to show? Where's this cable car located and is it practical time wise?

I plan on visiting the two above made tailors, restaurant in central and one mOre attraction
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 20, 2012, 09:05:46 AM
the tram is in central and you could do it in under 2 hours if you don't spend to much time up there. Not sure how long the tailors will take you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2012, 09:38:19 AM
Anyone familiar with both Jantzen tailor an Tai Pan? I've used both in the past along time ago wondering what current status is, which does better shirts??

Also have a 7:15am til 4:00pm stop.. Been there but taking a friend for first time is there anything better/more impressive than the peak to show? Where's this cable car located and is it practical time wise?

I plan on visiting the two above made tailors, restaurant in central and one mOre attraction
The Cable car is near HKG airport.  It is a fun trip with the glass-bottom cars, but I'm not sure that it's more impressive than the peak tram.

I had a kapota made at Tai Pan in Admiralty center and like it a lot.  They will ship clothes to you and even store your dimensions, but my kapota was far from perfect on his first try, so I'm not sure how that would work without going back for a fitting.

Closest restaurant to that would be Shalom Grill, which also has a grocery.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 10, 2012, 03:30:38 AM
Reporting from The CX lounge - "The Cabin"  - im flying economy but asked a random passenger entering if he can bring me as his +1 and he happily did. - i didnt end up going to Lantau island because by the time i got out of border control i only had 3 hours (a bit less) till my flight departs again. so i just came here and enjoying the fast free internet, couches, fresh fruit, unlim. drinks...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 10, 2012, 04:11:46 AM
Reporting from The CX lounge - "The Cabin"  - im flying economy but asked a random passenger entering if he can bring me as his +1 and he happily did. - i didnt end up going to Lantau island because by the time i got out of border control i only had 3 hours (a bit less) till my flight departs again. so i just came here and enjoying the fast free internet, couches, fresh fruit, unlim. drinks...
Steve2 would be proud ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 13, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
Steve2 would be proud ;)
sorry didnt get that...is that supposed to be humorous (like noone cares type of thing) or from something steve2 said?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 16, 2012, 04:00:43 AM
sorry didnt get that...is that supposed to be humorous (like noone cares type of thing) or from something steve2 said?
There is a thread on FT discussing sTeve's (pun intended)  practice of lurking outside UA lounges asking to be comped.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 16, 2012, 12:48:42 PM
There is a thread on FT discussing sTeve's (pun intended)  practice of lurking outside UA lounges asking to be comped.
oh yes i remember now such a thing
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 01:08:45 PM
So, now that some of us need to start thinking about Hong Kong accomodations, what are the recommendations for location in HK for a stay not over the weekend?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2012, 01:12:28 PM
W
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 01:18:40 PM
W

In Kowloon?

Are there any comparable Hyatt suggestions?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: robi on July 18, 2012, 02:25:57 PM
I'm looking at the grand Hyatt, have to ask around if it's on the "right" side of HKG
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 18, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
I'm looking at the grand Hyatt, have to ask around if it's on the "right" side of HKG

right side? is there a ghetto there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: robi on July 18, 2012, 02:31:16 PM
right side? is there a ghetto there?
everyone I spoke to told me to make sure I'm on a certain side of HKG, don't remember which
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: E on July 19, 2012, 05:36:17 AM
Gallery Link (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/114322315372342109368/albums/5765513133454720849)

Hello all started typing my TR than forgot about it so starting again here..

It all started on sunday I dont remember exactly when I first saw the deal but I saw it sometime in the morning and skimmed past I took another look when Dan reposted on the main site and decided to book even though I thought the chances of working where actually very slim.

I booked a very short itin because I travel companion didn't want to take off to much work.

EWR FRA First LH:
booked at ~1PM and than drove to the airport to catch the 6PM flight checkin in to the small shared LH lounge in EWR nothing to write about there. Gate was next to lounge, boarded without a hitch were only 3 other people in first of course since I only booked a few hours prior no kosher food was available, although I did put in a request for the return flight.

Landed in FRA at 7:20 AM I had loaded the FRA wikitravel page in the lounge and read on flight it seemed that although there are a number of museums in FRA they where all closed on monday. When we landed we took the train into the center of the city and just strolled around most shops where either closed or in the process of opening. For a few hours we just strolled around exploring. At this point my friend decided he needed to get back to work so we went back to the airport early and he booked a separate on way award ticket back to NYC. I spent the next two hours or so in the First class lounge where I definitely drank more in scotch than I spent on tax & fees for the ticket :) . I had requested kosher in the lounge but the "not enough time excuse" excuse was given although I did get 4-5 individual apologies from various staff. At 45 min prior to flight I requested that I be driven early to the gate (I was very excited for this so couldn't wait). I was driven in a Mercedes S class alone  to the gate, there is a kosher vending machine at gate C15 which happened to be my gate so went there to check for food but the machine had 2 items inside and for some reason didn't want to work, so I boarded the plane. The driver insisted on standing next to me the whole time holding my luggage and made sure to get everyone out of the way when I boarded so I didn't have to wait even a second.

FRA HKG Business
flight was uneventful, business class seats are quite nice and although don't go fully flat are easy to sleep in, again no kosher food. On the way I planed my day in HK partially from this thread partially from my seat neighbor who work for LH and thought my whole trip was hilarious.
First stop was Shalom grill where after basically not eating any real food for almost two days I was excited about I ordered the mixed grill which I finished in about 30 sec. They are currently doing construction on the second floor so they serve you the food on the third floor next to the shul. I ate with a local frum guy who gave me a few pointers and took the tram with him to admiralty station and than walked thru the park and up to the peak tram. Went up in the tram spent some time on the peak walking around the facilities and just admiring the view. took the tram back down and at the base there is a bus the the star ferry, took the bus to the ferry got on the ferry and crossed over to kowloon by this time it was around 3-4 Pm spent the next few hours browsing shops and bargaining. I couldn't bring myself to get a suit made being that I was only there for the day and it would have to be shipped I figured I would probably be better off not spending the money. At some point I went to the Peninsula Hotel ordered a drink and sat in the cool for a few minuted admiring the 2 hotel Rolls royce phantom's parked in front. At around 7:30 I made my way to the pier to watch the 8PM light show, it was really incredible and definitely worth watching, the whole thing takes around 15-30 min after which I stolled some more to the night market and than onto the ladies market. at around 9 PM my legs where getting really tired and I decided to head back to the airport for my 11:30 PM flight. at the airport I tried out the singapore lounge first, next to me where 4 very official looking australians who where talking about meeting conda lisa rice "tomorrow" . I had to ask who they where, the answer was he was the senator of australia (wtv that means) we spoke for a couple minutes and I moved on to the united lounge.

HKG MUC Business

landed in munich 6AM with a 3 hour stop over , I was told this was not enough time to head into munich and decided to take the bus to freising a smal town near airport but figured it was better than sitting in airport. Strolled around a little there nothing was really open at that point. At 8:30 am got to airport visited the LH business lounge which was nice but nothing compared to the FRA first lounge. got two nice hermlois meals werent exciting enough to take pictures of but did the job.

MUC EWR Business
This was on UA metal which was complete garbage compared to the LH planes. Sitting next to me was a nice guy who works for universal who invited me to get me in if I ever come to orlando. No kosher food on this flight the steward claimed they didn't get the request (should I ask for compensation?) .
 

Noone at anytime in the trip said anything at all about the 4 miles. Nothing was deducted from the account I used. I do regret not booking a better routing, staying longer or getting more first class segments but for the circumstances I definitely can't complain. Good luck to all other who booked!!

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on July 19, 2012, 05:43:00 AM
Awesome!!!

As has been mentioned multiple times, once ticketed, the ticket is good. The only issue is UA looking up who got these tickets and cancelling them.
Title: Re: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on July 19, 2012, 06:51:43 AM
Awesome!!!

+1
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 19, 2012, 08:00:31 AM
+1
+2
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 19, 2012, 09:16:19 AM
FYI, with regards to KSML'S, make sure to confirm with the airline you are flying. Having UA request it for you usually means you are going to be disappointed
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 09:48:52 AM
Boy, requesting compensation for the kosher food issue may put UA over the edge.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: RJ898 on July 19, 2012, 10:26:51 AM
Boy, requesting compensation for the kosher food issue may put UA over the edge.
What are they going to do about it?! Trip is done!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ryan on July 19, 2012, 10:33:03 AM
MUC EWR Business
This was on UA metal which was complete garbage compared to the LH planes. Sitting next to me was a nice guy who works for universal who invited me to get me in if I ever come to orlando. No kosher food on this flight the steward claimed they didn't get the request (should I ask for compensation?) .

100%. You may as well get something out of not being able to eat for 8 hours.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: E on July 19, 2012, 10:37:58 AM
Boy, requesting compensation for the kosher food issue may put UA over the edge.
Ya I don't think I'm gonna be calling about this not trying to make trouble.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 03:28:12 PM
Nice Report...hope my Stopover Report (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2630.msg180625#msg180625) helped you out at the least :) .
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 19, 2012, 07:10:05 PM
So, now that some of us need to start thinking about Hong Kong accomodations, what are the recommendations for location in HK for a stay not over the weekend?
We are in the process of negotiating a special rate for 4 Mile Island guest :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JEWDA on July 19, 2012, 07:54:02 PM
We are in the process of negotiating a special rate for 4 Mile Island guest :P
Enjoy :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: E on July 19, 2012, 08:25:12 PM
Nice Report...hope my Stopover Report (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2630.msg180625#msg180625) helped you out at the least :) .
It did thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 19, 2012, 08:40:26 PM
Enjoy :P
If anybody has non refundable reservations for the first 2 weeks of August please PM
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: e-Lawyer on July 19, 2012, 08:51:49 PM
We are in the process of negotiating a special rate for 4 Mile Island guest :P

 :P

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 19, 2012, 08:55:38 PM
If anybody has non refundable reservations for the first 2 weeks of August please PM
Request intact, even though tix were cancelled.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: LWG on July 20, 2012, 01:16:27 AM
Just got an email from UA with the bad news :( had reservations for whole family . Guess no such luck! It said the following:
    
 
Update regarding award itinerary
that includes Hong Kong
 
Dear ----------------,
 
You recently requested the ticketing of MileagePlus award travel to, from or through Hong Kong (confirmation -------). Because your account does not have enough miles to complete the purchase, we have canceled the ticket for non-payment and refunded all taxes and fees. The number of miles required for this award was provided during your transaction and is published on the MileagePlus travel award chart on our website.
 
If you have already canceled the ticket, please disregard this email.
 
We appreciate your understanding and look forward to serving you in the future.
 



- I don't even think its written well, as the point the dot would be arguing will be that out bill/receipt stated that amount was OWED and PAID. I believe they will and should be fined.
 I'm not surprised or upset by this, as I guess it was expected, but I DO believe it was their error and in this case they should have to honor it.  And I think the dot will come to that conclusion .
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 20, 2012, 01:29:57 AM
Welcome to DDF, however this is the wrong thread. Please continue the conversation in this thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18043.msg265841;topicseen#msg265841) The problem with your assumption is that they likely collaborated with the DoT for this statement, but only time will tell.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: LWG on July 20, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
Welcome to DDF, however this is the wrong thread. Please continue the conversation in this thread (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=18043.msg265841;topicseen#msg265841) The problem with your assumption is that they likely collaborated with the DoT for this statement, but only time will tell.

Thanks :)! I've been lurking here for quite a while lol - just finally decided to get involved in the talk! ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 27, 2012, 10:30:16 AM
has any one stayed, or does anyone know about hotelICON in kowloon? can one stay there for shabbos or is there a problem with the elevetor? going with wife and 7 month old baby
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on August 07, 2012, 11:01:43 AM
arriving at night on thursday and leaving sunday morning so all i have is friday and than thrusday night and ms ( dont mind staying up all night). so basically what can i do at night? my flight being 10 am, can i spend the night in macau and get back in time for my flight?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yossi. on August 07, 2012, 11:21:07 AM
arriving at night on thursday and leaving sunday morning so all i have is friday and than thrusday night and ms ( dont mind staying up all night). so basically what can i do at night? my flight being 10 am, can i spend the night in macau and get back in time for my flight?
U wont have time with the regular ferry as the service starts at 7am (and the ride is 1 hr) but u can take a cab or a helicopter

or take the turbojet (http://www.turbojet.com.hk/eng/schedule/airport.asp) that leaves at 7:30am and arrives at 8:20am...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on August 07, 2012, 12:03:45 PM
U wont have time with the regular ferry as the service starts at 7am (and the ride is 1 hr) but u can take a cab or a helicopter

or take the turbojet (http://www.turbojet.com.hk/eng/schedule/airport.asp) that leaves at 7:30am and arrives at 8:20am...
TX. but how dpes the turbojet help me. if the reg ferry leaves at 7 and takes an hr, that would get me in at 8. is that enough time? is there somewhere to leave my luggage?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 07, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
Is there anywhere to spend a night on a laptop, without sleeping?

Hanging out at a pub is not an option.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 07, 2012, 06:03:49 PM
Is there anywhere to spend a night on a laptop, without sleeping?

Hanging out at a pub is not an option.

Lounge?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 07, 2012, 06:08:39 PM
Lounge?
I guess, but won't be coming to/from airport, so a nice hotel with a 24 hour bar would be best
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yossi. on August 07, 2012, 10:18:40 PM
TX. but how dpes the turbojet help me. if the reg ferry leaves at 7 and takes an hr, that would get me in at 8. is that enough time? is there somewhere to leave my luggage?
like i said:
U wont have time with the regular ferry as the service starts at 7am (and the ride is 1 hr)

Therefore:
take the turbojet (http://www.turbojet.com.hk/eng/schedule/airport.asp) that leaves at 7:30am and arrives at 8:20am...
did u open the link? the turbojet leaves from macau and goes directly to the HK airport. If your flight is at 10am, that leaves u plenty of time IMHO.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on August 08, 2012, 01:15:02 AM
ok got it. so  see they pick up luggage but only from macau, any ideas what i can do with my luggage overnight? i have a nice a mount as with wife and baby ( like 3 big and some couple of small plus stroller)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yossi. on August 08, 2012, 08:44:04 AM
ok got it. so  see they pick up luggage but only from macau, any ideas what i can do with my luggage overnight? i have a nice a mount as with wife and baby ( like 3 big and some couple of small plus stroller)
Maybe u can put them in storage at the airport before your night in macau...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: sy guy on November 02, 2012, 09:34:56 AM
Just did my first HK trip... Quick thoughts:
1) Great city. Kosher food at Mul Hayam restaurant is fantastic, give yourself an hour from airport to get to Kowloon.
2) Hotels are fabulous - stayed in the Intercontinental Junior Suite, great views and outdoor pool a boon. Close to shul
Also spent a sleepless night (jetlag) in the Hyatt Regency Tsim Tsa Tsui. Great hotel, in a great Kowloon location. Not for shabbat because of elevator, height issues.
3) HKG is a great airport and Cathay great service even in economy. Get extra legroom seat, or if you have status with AA or OW, ask them to block off an extra seat for you if economy is not full. If econ is full push hard for an upgrade to prem econ or biz. Kosher meals a disaster.
4) Cathay wing lounge at HKG is ok, couldn't find anything with hasgacha to eat so come with food for flight home. BA lounge at JFK is loaded with goodies and kosher wine is available at the terminal 7 duty free shop. Good if you want to make sure you have a bottle for kiddush/havdala and not sure if you can pick up in HKG.
5) Mainland china is booming, but expect customs to look at your food.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 02, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Kosher meals a disaster.
depends on what you get. if hermolis, its a winner
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: trying123 on November 21, 2012, 09:01:28 AM
I gotta b in China next week in beginning of week can anyone fill me in since its my first time traveling there.  Wht do I need re visa how fast can I get one. 
Can I get a translater there go help me communicate with a local business  . Which is best hotel
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2012, 09:04:26 AM
You definitely need a visa, but I don't recall how fast you can get one.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 09:53:13 AM
I gotta b in China next week in beginning of week can anyone fill me in since its my first time traveling there.  Wht do I need re visa how fast can I get one. 
Can I get a translater there go help me communicate with a local business  . Which is best hotel
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: trying123 on November 21, 2012, 10:01:14 AM
Dan wrote wrong thread can u direct me to the right one
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 21, 2012, 10:09:11 AM
That would depend on where exactly you're going to.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on November 21, 2012, 11:54:47 AM
You definitely need a visa, but I don't recall how fast you can get one.
Since when do u need a visa to enter HK? I didn't need one
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2012, 11:59:01 AM
Since when do u need a visa to enter HK? I didn't need one

Needed in 2007. Could be that I also went into China proper (as OP seems to be doing).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on November 21, 2012, 11:59:34 AM
Since when do u need a visa to enter HK? I didn't need one


I gotta b in China next week in beginning of week can anyone fill me in since its my first time traveling there.  Wht do I need re visa how fast can I get one. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 24, 2012, 08:03:48 PM
Which is best hotel
in the entire China?!
Wht do I need re visa how fast can I get one.   
www.chinavisa.hk will be the fastest way.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 07:46:54 AM
Which SPG properties are the closest to Chabad locations for shabbos meals?
Any other alternative lodging / sleeping arrangements that don't include chain hotels or Chabad?

Worth coming for Thursday - Motzai Shabbos on my return to TLV? Enough time to see things?

Also, if staying in Mid-December, do I have enough time after shabbos (not R. Tam zman) to make it to the airport for a 9:30 flight?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 10:46:39 AM
Which SPG properties are the closest to Chabad locations for shabbos meals?
Any other alternative lodging / sleeping arrangements that don't include chain hotels or Chabad?

Worth coming for Thursday - Motzai Shabbos on my return to TLV? Enough time to see things?

Also, if staying in Mid-December, do I have enough time after shabbos (not R. Tam zman) to make it to the airport for a 9:30 flight?
To clarify, after reading that Kehilat Tzion has amazing food, what are the best lodging options close to them for shabbos? Going w/ 3 small kids, so can't be a tiny room.
Any SPG properties?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 11:48:09 AM
There's a Sheraton by KZ.
Sunday night buffet at JCC is a shame to miss once you're there for shabbos.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 11:49:58 AM
The Shangri La is next door. Email fion.yung@shangri-la.com and request the KZ rate
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 12:20:19 PM
There's a Sheraton by KZ.
Sunday night buffet at JCC is a shame to miss once you're there for shabbos.
I chk'd out the Sheraton, but the rooms were tiny. I can't imagine they would let us bring in the kids.

What's the buffet like? I'd love to stay, but I'm already pushing my vacation days limit as it is.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 02:45:15 PM
There's a Sheraton by KZ.
Sunday night buffet at JCC is a shame to miss once you're there for shabbos.
I just looked at the bbq menu
http://www.jcc.org.hk/documents/Sunday%20BBQ%20August%202012.pdf

and it has caused me to want to change my starting date of the vacation so I can fit it in.
Is it a true buffet? Is it very full? Is it every Sunday? I don't want to build my HKG leg around it if it doesn't happen that week.

I don't often eat good steak, since in Israel, it all goes according to numbers. :)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 02:47:06 PM
True buffet (whats a fake buffet?), every Sunday, sometimes full, sometimes less. Great value.

Go early since they don't keep the meat warm, its better in the beginning.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 03:06:14 PM
True buffet (whats a fake buffet?), every Sunday, sometimes full, sometimes less. Great value.

Go early since they don't keep the meat warm, its better in the beginning.
If I went, I'll be camping out starting an hour beforehand :)

And I'll start doing teshuva for my achilas gasa a few months b/f the trip.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 03:10:13 PM
With this expectation I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 03:14:47 PM
With this expectation I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.
I can count on one hand how many steaks I've had in Israel in my 3 years here...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: mmermss on January 10, 2013, 03:16:08 PM
I can count on one hand how many steaks I've had in Israel in my 3 years here...
Why? They may not be the best but some are still pretty good.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 03:20:41 PM
I can count on one hand how many steaks I've had in Israel in my 3 years here...
Dont overestimate this JCC...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 04:02:39 PM
Why? They may not be the best but some are still pretty good.
Expensive, and I usually eat out at restaurants w/ coupons.
And I don't do much fine dining. Usually lunches and fast food like bourekas and schwarma
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 04:17:36 PM
The buffet is very good and worth staying an extra day for, but it's still a buffet after all.
Don't expect Le Marais quality food and you shant be disappointed.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 10, 2013, 05:21:54 PM
I chk'd out the Sheraton, but the rooms were tiny. I can't imagine they would let us bring in the kids.

get a plat to book for you. we got a a confirmed suite on a low floor weeks before we arrived
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on January 10, 2013, 05:27:54 PM
The Sheraton in Hong Kong will almost never honor Platinum benefits if the account holder isn't present
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 05:36:04 PM
get a plat to book for you. we got a a confirmed suite on a low floor weeks before we arrived
They'll allow the kids into a confirmed suite?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 05:37:28 PM
They'll allow the kids into a confirmed suite?
Why do you need to show your kids at checkin?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 10, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
The Sheraton in Hong Kong will almost never honor Platinum benefits if the account holder isn't present
wow. thats important info. thanks for that

however if suite is confirmed beforehand, and room description is changed in the res, would they downgrade?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 05:50:29 PM
Why do you need to show your kids at checkin?
My SO has been attending a class on biz halachic ethics...

I even emailed the Thailand hotels, but they didn't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 10, 2013, 06:22:53 PM
i always check booking.com for official (i think) kids policies

http://www.booking.com/hotel/hk/sheraton-hong-kong.en.html
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on January 10, 2013, 09:21:34 PM
wow. thats important info. thanks for that

however if suite is confirmed beforehand, and room description is changed in the res, would they downgrade?

Probably
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 16, 2013, 05:18:47 PM
The Shangri La is next door. Email fion.yung@shangri-la.com and request the KZ rate
Comes out to $300 per night, and they won't allow the 3 kids. Max is 2 kids.

Any ideas of shabbos hospitality options in the community? Perhaps a B&B?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 16, 2013, 05:20:57 PM
Comes out to $300 per night, and they won't allow the 3 kids. Max is 2 kids.

Any ideas of shabbos hospitality options in the community? Perhaps a B&B?
If you're looking to save money there's also the Garden View nextdoor to chabad of HKI ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 16, 2013, 05:35:15 PM
whats wrong with the sheraton?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 17, 2013, 12:24:32 AM
whats wrong with the sheraton?
Since I'll have a 1.5 year old, and there is no eruv, it could be a challenge making it to the meal.

If you're looking to save money there's also the Garden View nextdoor to chabad of HKI ;)
Thanks, I'll look into it. (If I could handle the Venice chabad for shavuos, I'm sure I'll manage just fine over here :) )
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 17, 2013, 03:20:57 AM
Since I'll have a 1.5 year old, and there is no eruv, it could be a challenge making it to the meal.
does your kid walk? (im not asking about the distance)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 17, 2013, 04:28:26 AM
does your kid walk? (im not asking about the distance)
she's only 7 months now, so I'm not sure what will be.
This is for December
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 17, 2013, 10:30:49 AM
Thanks, I'll look into it. (If I could handle the Venice chabad for shavuos, I'm sure I'll manage just fine over here :) )
The shliach is an American and not a meshichist.
It's the hotel I winked for. But if you want cheap it is cheap.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 17, 2013, 10:52:54 AM
The shliach is an American and not a meshichist.
It's the hotel I winked for. But if you want cheap it is cheap.
+1 And being Rabbi Shemtov's son-in-law I don't think you have much to worry about...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 16, 2013, 02:24:15 PM
Looks like I might have a 1 night transit in HKG on my way from DPS to TLV.
I'll be w/ 3 small kids, and am hoping to use my Priority Club free night award that comes w/ renewing my PC card.
Any advice which property to stay in? Preferably, I'd like to be somewhat close to kosher food, but it's not a must.

I see they have 3 Intercontinental locations.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 17, 2013, 02:01:57 PM
Looks like I might have a 1 night transit in HKG on my way from DPS to TLV.
I'll be w/ 3 small kids, and am hoping to use my Priority Club free night award that comes w/ renewing my PC card.
Any advice which property to stay in? Preferably, I'd like to be somewhat close to kosher food, but it's not a must.

I see they have 3 Intercontinental locations.
Stamford IC is right next to Kehilat Zion davening and restaurant

Obviously HK Island is the center of things, so Id stay at that IC
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 17, 2013, 05:27:07 PM
The W hotel is fantastic, though expensive.
It has an airport express station underneath it, so you can go nonstop from HKG to the W. The hotel will send a porter to bring your bags down and you can check them in at the airport express station underneath the W.

Also a great rooftop infinity pool/hot tub the kids will love.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on February 17, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
I've stayed at the Sheraton several times, For $10.00 an hour they will provide you with fantastic babysitters. You can bring them along w you Shabbos and have them wheel the stroller
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 18, 2013, 01:01:27 AM
I've stayed at the Sheraton several times, For $10.00 an hour they will provide you with fantastic babysitters. You can bring them along w you Shabbos and have them wheel the stroller
It's gotta be a Priority Club property.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 10, 2013, 07:29:42 AM
Not sure if its a permanent change or just because of the fair but this week the Buffet is a fresh BBQ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: mochada on March 20, 2013, 10:53:47 PM
Has anyone ever stayed at the Conrad Hong Kong?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 09, 2013, 07:09:12 AM
has any1 been to the Disneyland in hongkong ??
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: U-no-me! on April 09, 2013, 07:19:21 AM
anyone up for a wki?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jmansour on April 09, 2013, 04:51:31 PM
has any1 been to the Disneyland in hongkong ??

yes ive been, its not that big but if you have time to kill you might as well go. you can take the train there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 28, 2013, 01:36:12 AM
Worth it to do both the glass bottom cable car AND the victoria peak tram?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 28, 2013, 09:21:08 AM
Worth it to do both the glass bottom cable car AND the victoria peak tram?
it's 2 diff places and 2 diff views. I didn't do the cable carts because of time (or I think it was out of service) buy the peak is pretty cool. I think forsure the peak.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2013, 10:35:15 AM
Most definitely, completely different experiences.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 28, 2013, 11:22:16 AM
Great.

Unfortunately, the Macau water show is only from Thurs-Mon so we'll probably just do the AJ hacket tower.

How long does it take to get from HKI to Macau?

Can it be done in the morning with enough time to catch a 3pm flight to CNX?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
Great.

Unfortunately, the Macau water show is only from Thurs-Mon so we'll probably just do the AJ hacket tower.
Too bad, awesome show.
I don't think it's worth shlepping to Macau just for bungy though unless you just really want another passport stamp.  And it is quite a shlep.

I don't think that's enough time to catch that flight.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 28, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Too bad, awesome show.
I don't think it's worth shlepping to Macau just for bungy though unless you just really want another passport stamp.  And it is quite a shlep.

I don't think that's enough time to catch that flight.

How much of a schlep are we talking?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
Probably need to allot at least 4 hours RT for purchasing tickets, transport time, and customs.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 28, 2013, 01:34:25 PM
Hmm..either I'll skip Macau, or I'll do it on the one full day I have.

I think we're going to do something like this:

The Peak Tram;
Glass bottom cable-car;
Ozone Bar;
AJ Hackett Tower;
Dinner somewhere -- any reccos?
Lunch somewhere -- any recoos?

Am I missing anything important?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
When do you arrive/depart HKG?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 28, 2013, 01:43:40 PM
When do you arrive/depart HKG?

Arrive 7am.

Leave 3pm the following day.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2013, 01:49:22 PM
Don't bother with Macau then. Not enough time to justify it.
I'm sure you'll be back with CX F.

Hmm..either I'll skip Macau, or I'll do it on the one full day I have.

I think we're going to do something like this:

The Peak Tram;
Glass bottom cable-car;
Ozone Bar;
AJ Hackett Tower;
Dinner somewhere -- any reccos?
Lunch somewhere -- any recoos?

Am I missing anything important?
On HKI you have Shalom Grill and the JCC.
In Kowloon you have Mul Hayam.

All 3 are very good for the most part.

HKI and Kowloon are both fun to explore and get lost in.  HKI has a cool escalator going up one of the steep streets that seems to go up forever.  Also lots of stalls on alleys in HKI selling gifts.

There are also several great markets all around.  My wife got great knockoff purses and stuff in the night market in Kowloon.  They'll ask for $1,000HKG and come down to $100HKG, so be prepared for that and the calculator game.

Custom clothes aren't cheap, but they are excellent.

Star Ferry is worthwhile at night for the views.

There's a light show at night we didn't catch.

That's off the top of my mind, gotta look through our pics for more than that.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 28, 2013, 01:56:27 PM
Yes, with CX F, that's likely, Gd willing.

Thanks for all the info.

If you had to pick one place for breakfast/lunch and one place for dinner, what'd it be?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2013, 02:01:11 PM
I'd go with Shalom Grill and Mul Hayam.  Just depends if you'll be on HKI or Kowloon for lunch or dinner.
Unless it's Sunday night of course-in which case the JCC wins.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 28, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
I'd go with Shalom Grill and Mul Hayam.  Just depends if you'll be on HKI or Kowloon for lunch or dinner.
Unless it's Sunday night of course-in which case the JCC wins.

But both are good for lunch and dinner?

Unfortunately, JCC Sunday night buffet will have to be saved along with Macau and the Water Show for another time, as we won't be there over the weekend.

So, this where I'm at:

The Peak Tram;
Glass bottom cable-car;
Ozone Bar;
AJ Hackett Tower;
Dinner somewhere -- any reccos? at Mul Hayam or Shalom Grill
Lunch somewhere -- any reccos? at Mul Hayam or Shalom Grill

I feel like we have time to do more, no?

What else would DDF recommend?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 01, 2013, 09:46:23 AM
Mul hayam is also by vctoria harbour so you can take a walk on their local avenue of the stars, maybe take the ferry from Central or Wan chai to Kowloon (TST -Tsim Sha tsui), the ferry ride is very nice.

I've never been in HK for leisure so I can't really rate it compared to other attractions.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 02, 2013, 01:13:02 PM
Ritz for $325 or W HKG for $325

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 05, 2013, 09:19:25 PM
Anyone know what time shachris is at KZ during the week?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: mochada on May 05, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
http://www.kehilat-zion.org/services.php

Enjoy your trip!
Hope for LH F ;-)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 05, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
http://www.kehilat-zion.org/services.php

Enjoy your trip!
Hope for LH F ;-)

THanks! Couldn't find it for some reason.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 05, 2013, 09:50:58 PM
Mul Hayam is one of my favorite places to eat anywhere. Make sure to try the Goulash Soup and Vietnamese Rice
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 05, 2013, 10:05:05 PM
Mul Hayam is one of my favorite places to eat anywhere. Make sure to try the Goulash Soup and Vietnamese Rice

Thanks for the recco. Will be there for dinner Tues night, Gd willing.

Any other reccos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 05, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
Thanks for the recco. Will be there for dinner Tues night, Gd willing.

Any other reccos?

Everything there is very good. Not cheap though. Prob eaten 25 meals there and never disappointed
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 05, 2013, 10:15:32 PM
Will be there for dinner Tues night, Gd willing.

Please send my regards to Rabbi & mrs. Meoded if you see them
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 05, 2013, 10:17:51 PM
Everything there is very good. Not cheap though. Prob eaten 25 meals there and never disappointed

On vaca the budget goes up :)

Of anyone else has had specific dishes they liked, speak up by all means.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on June 13, 2013, 03:56:41 PM
Flying with out wife and kid to Hong Kong next yeAr right after pessach. my flight options are the 255 pm on Wednesday that gets in Thursday night or 1005 am that gets in 205 pm Friday afternoon. I like the idea of saving on hotel room for one night. Any reason to take the Wednesday night flight? Better flighty? Is landing 205 risky for Shabbos? Iyh flying first class for my first time tx
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on June 14, 2013, 11:25:54 AM
Anyone?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 14, 2013, 11:43:17 AM
You'd probably do better if you'd post when shabbos starts :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on June 15, 2013, 02:00:45 PM
Lucky enough for me you've given me an excuse to reply to bring the thread back to the top with out having to write " anyone?" Again lol
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: nafnaf12 on June 17, 2013, 12:55:22 AM
Maj
I would go with Wednesday
And btw I'm kinda shocked that u booking a ticket a year in advance
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 17, 2013, 12:58:54 AM
Maj
I would go with Wednesday
And btw I'm kinda shocked that u booking a ticket a year in advance
why? I am booking now for next April. The beauty of BA miles ahhh!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 17, 2013, 01:01:22 AM
Flying with out wife and kid to Hong Kong next yeAr right after pessach. my flight options are the 255 pm on Wednesday that gets in Thursday night or 1005 am that gets in 205 pm Friday afternoon. I like the idea of saving on hotel room for one night. Any reason to take the Wednesday night flight? Better flighty? Is landing 205 risky for Shabbos? Iyh flying first class for my first time tx
I landed at 1 on a Friday in HKG is the summer which was fine but the lines were really long for immigration. First class will only get you off the plane first, not worth much IMHO. You will probably be nervous for a looong time until your flight if you will make it or not. Any delay and you are in hot water due to the long lines. That said you will most likely make it, depends on your tolerance for risk. I wouldn't do it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on June 17, 2013, 02:30:13 AM
I landed at 1 on a Friday in HKG is the summer which was fine but the lines were really long for immigration. First class will only get you off the plane first, not worth much IMHO. You will probably be nervous for a looong time until your flight if you will make it or not. Any delay and you are in hot water due to the long lines. That said you will most likely make it, depends on your tolerance for risk. I wouldn't do it.
tx that was what I decided to go for, unfortunately they couldn't find my reservation in the system 3 days later so I lost it and only the Thursday was open.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 02, 2013, 06:23:24 PM
Would love some peoples advice. Will in in HKG first time landing on Jan 5 around 3PM and leaving Jan 7 at around 5PM ( Eva's new business class btw ;D)

We kind of want to pack as much as possible into the 2 days including visiting Macau. Any ideas on which hotel to stay in? Should we do the Grand Hyatt HKG or something else? Kosher is important to it would be nice to be remotely to close to the kosher places...

TIA
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2013, 06:33:57 PM
Would love some peoples advice. Will in in HKG first time landing on Jan 5 around 3PM and leaving Jan 7 at around 5PM ( Eva's new business class btw ;D)

We kind of want to pack as much as possible into the 2 days including visiting Macau. Any ideas on which hotel to stay in? Should we do the Grand Hyatt HKG or something else? Kosher is important to it would be nice to be remotely to close to the kosher places...

TIA

Stayed in the W HKG and loved it. Extremely convenient to/from the airport, and not too far from the chabad.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 02, 2013, 06:40:05 PM
If anyone here is going to be around Nathan Road in Kowloon over the next couple of weeks and doesn't mind doing me a quick favor, please PM me
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 02, 2013, 06:48:28 PM
Stayed in the W HKG and loved it. Extremely convenient to/from the airport, and not too far from the chabad.

20K Starpoints a night! Is that really worth it? No C&P for my dates...any idea if the Hyatt is too out of the way?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2013, 07:23:11 PM
20K Starpoints a night! Is that really worth it? No C&P for my dates...any idea if the Hyatt is too out of the way?

I paid cash for my night.

Now, that I google it, it looks like the Hyatt is even closer to KZ than the W (even walkable), but it's a little more of a shlep from the airport train.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 02, 2013, 07:30:03 PM
I paid cash for my night.

Now, that I google it, it looks like the Hyatt is even closer to KZ than the W (even walkable), but it's a little more of a shlep from the airport train.

New Hyatt is a block from KZ. Not Shabbos friendly though
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 02, 2013, 07:43:12 PM
Thanks. We're not there Igor Shabbat. Only Sunday . Monday and half of Tuesday. Just want to be near the action/ night markets etc and kosher food.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 02, 2013, 07:50:41 PM
Thanks. We're not there Igor Shabbat. Only Sunday . Monday and half of Tuesday. Just want to be near the action/ night markets etc and kosher food.

Then def a better location than the W. Sheraton is well located as well
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2013, 07:58:26 PM
I'd still stay the W.
Awesome hotel with a great rooftop infinity pool and easy access to everything in the city.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 02, 2013, 08:04:32 PM
I'd still stay the W.
Awesome hotel with a great rooftop infinity pool and easy access to everything in the city.

Agree.

I've stayed at the Shangri-La, Sheraton, Intercontinental, W and Ritz Carlton (before it was torn down) and W was prob the coolest though the service was brutal. Pool is one of the coolest I've ever swam in though Intercontinental is a close second. Never went back to the W because its too far to walk on Shabbos
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
Agree.

I've stayed at the Shangri-La, Sheraton, Intercontinental, W and Ritz Carlton (before it was torn down) and W was prob the coolest though the service was brutal. Pool is one of the coolest I've ever swam in though Intercontinental is a close second. Never went back to the W because its too far to walk on Shabbos
Def not a good choice for shabbos, but otherwise awesome.
I stayed on HKI for shabbos to be by Chabad of HKI (which had killer meals and a great local expat crowd) and then switched to the W.
Especially that a bellhop will bring your luggage downstairs to the airport express counters to be checked through to your final destination.  Really nice not having to shlep a thing.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 02, 2013, 09:15:36 PM
I just checked the rates and its more then $400 a night...not sure its exactly worth it but  then again..if i 20k SPG or 22k UR is pretty much the same thing...not sure what to do.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 22, 2013, 07:31:16 AM
I'm not sure any of the high rollers here ( :) ) will be able to help, but here goes.
I'll be there for 22 hrs in mid-Dec, and am looking for an affordable stay for 2 adults, 3 small kids.
I'm seeing the Holiday Inn Express Soho for 20k (minus 10% rebate) for the night, and I was thinking about getting 2 rooms and trying to have them be attached to fit us all. Rates are currently $180 per night, so it's the best use of my points that I'll find.

Google maps seems to be telling me that it's only a 1km walk from the JCC, and we'll need a place to pick up some fresh bakery goods, etc.

Anyone have any thoughts about the location? Is it in a good location to explore some sights in the limited time we have? Is it really that close to the JCC?

TA says that it's close to public transportation, which is how I assume we'll get to/from the airport.

(I'll try BRGing other locations as well, but this is the best option I currently see)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 11:52:38 AM
1. It's 1.3KM and it's going straight up the mountainside. It will be a very difficult walk with 3 kids.
2. The JCC doesn't have a bakery.
3. Public transport from the airport will involve some sort of connection.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 22, 2013, 01:47:41 PM
1. It's 1.3KM and it's going straight up the mountainside. It will be a very difficult walk with 3 kids.
2. The JCC doesn't have a bakery.
3. Public transport from the airport will involve some sort of connection.
I saw this quote
"Additionally the shop stocks a varied range of dry grocery products from around the globe as well as locally sourced vegetables & fresh fish products together with speciality baked breads and our famous Challah Bread !"
at this website.
http://www.jcc.org.hk/koshermart.php

Is it inaccurate?

Where would you recommend instead? Closer to KZ? I thus far can't find an affordable hotel in that area. (If anyone wants to search for me, it would be greatly appreciated.)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 22, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
Unless you have a specific reason to be in Central, you should def try and stay in Kowloon.

The Holday Inn Golden Mile on Nathan Road is know to be quite nice
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 03:37:45 PM
I saw this quote
"Additionally the shop stocks a varied range of dry grocery products from around the globe as well as locally sourced vegetables & fresh fish products together with speciality baked breads and our famous Challah Bread !"
at this website.
http://www.jcc.org.hk/koshermart.php

Is it inaccurate?

Where would you recommend instead? Closer to KZ? I thus far can't find an affordable hotel in that area. (If anyone wants to search for me, it would be greatly appreciated.)
Must've missed that when I was there.  I did get stuff at the market in Sholom Grill, which is in Central and worth eating at as well.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 03:40:11 PM
Rather than getting 2 rooms why not find a good corp rate at the W and use an SNA.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 22, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
Rather than getting 2 rooms why not find a good corp rate at the W and use an SNA.
Will the SNA get me into a room that'll fit?
Also, if it doesn't go through, I'm concerned that I'll be scrambling while in Bali to find s/t.
My final pathetic issue, I don't know the first thing about corp rates. I'm open to all suggestions via pm.

Unless you have a specific reason to be in Central, you should def try and stay in Kowloon.

The Holday Inn Golden Mile on Nathan Road is know to be quite nice
Costs 35k per night.
Why Kowloon as opposed to Central? (I'm ignorant w/ this stuff, and haven't read through this whole thread yet.)
And is East Kowloon just as good?

EDIT: I found a good rate at the Sheraton which is nearby. Anyone have experience with what an SNA can get me there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
Could've fit 10 kids in the suite I got without an SNA.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 22, 2013, 04:54:10 PM
Could've fit 10 kids in the suite I got without an SNA.
But that doesn't mean they won't give you a problem at the front desk.

Is December high season?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 22, 2013, 06:33:12 PM
Sholom Grill, which is in Central and worth eating at as well.

Meh. Food has been average at best in my experience
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 07:11:19 PM
Meh. Food has been average at best in my experience
I recall enjoying the sweet and sour chicken as well as the chicken&corn soup
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on July 22, 2013, 08:32:38 PM
I'll be in HK in August for 24 hours I'm landing 4:25 pm and departing the following day 4:00 PM.
I assume that I'll only have enough time for either The Peak Tram or Glass bottom cable-car, which one would you guys recommend?
Is it worth visiting the Ozone Bar? How far is the W from these attractions? If it saves me lots of time it may be worth staying there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 22, 2013, 08:38:42 PM
You can do both and even have time for more.

Peak when you arrive. Dinner at JCC. Breakfast at KZ. Lunch at Mul Hayam. Glass bottom cable car on the way to Airport.

W is not near any of these things, as it's in Kowloon and Peak is in HKI, and cable car is right next to airport.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on July 22, 2013, 08:47:23 PM
You can do both and even have time for more.

Peak when you arrive. Dinner at JCC. Breakfast at KZ. Lunch at Mul Hayam. Glass bottom cable car on the way to Airport.

W is not near any of these things, as it's in Kowloon and Peak is in HKI, and cable car is right next to airport.
Cool! Thanks for the itinerary :). With all that is it still worth staying at the W? How do you navigate HK? Do you have all the address's printed and show them to taxi drivers or bus drivers?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 22, 2013, 08:49:35 PM
Depends. I wanted the convenience and experience of the W. The Hyatt is also a good option.

Taxis.

They either recognized where we wanted to go, or I showed them on my phone. The W does have a shuttle down to the ferry, which came in convenient.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 08:51:25 PM
The big advantage of the W is that it's right on top of the airport express station, no need to connect to a bus or subway or taxi.  You can drop off your stuff in your room and have a bellhop bring it down and recheck it to your destination.

And they're great with upgrades and have an awesome rooftop pool.

Don't miss the various night markets and at least 1 ride on the Star Ferry as well.  No need to do the Star Ferry more than once though-subways are more efficient and taxis (besides for to/from the airport) are cheap.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on July 22, 2013, 08:52:04 PM
Depends. I wanted the convenience and experience of the W. The Hyatt is also a good option.

Taxis.

They either recognized where we wanted to go, or I showed them on my phone. The W does have a shuttle down to the ferry, which came in convenient.
How much is an average taxi ride?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 22, 2013, 08:52:13 PM
Cheap.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 08:54:08 PM
Cheap.
Big surcharges for trips to/from airport.
Otherwise very cheap.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 22, 2013, 08:55:02 PM
Big surcharges for trips to/from airport.
Otherwise very cheap.

Right. I assume everyone would take the train. Especially when you have the option to check your bags in Kowloon.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 08:59:19 PM
Right. I assume everyone would take the train. Especially when you have the option to check your bags in Kowloon.
We took a taxi from HKG as we stayed by Chabad of HKI for shabbos before switching to the W. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 22, 2013, 09:00:54 PM
How much is an average taxi ride?
Short rides are 20 HKD which is around 2.5 USD
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 22, 2013, 09:01:26 PM
Train goes to HKI... could've taken a taxi from HK Station.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 22, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Not a huge difference in price for a taxi and 2 people on the airport express+taxi to the station.

I've done both. With kids and luggage I'd prob take a cab

Obviously to the W, Ritz or FS the Airport Express is def more convenient
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 09:03:38 PM
Train goes to HKI... could've taken a taxi from HK Station.
Gotta know when to be cheap and when not to be.
Especially with a pregnant wife, at the tail-end of a month long trip, and coming off a red-eye from HTI-MEL-HKG with a 9 hour connection in MEL ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 09:05:32 PM
Not a huge difference in price for a taxi and 2 people on the airport express+taxi to the station.
The problem we had with our cabbie was that he tripled the price of the fare at the end with "surcharges"
And the hotel was no help.
In the end I think I met him halfway with him cursing me out.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 22, 2013, 09:07:22 PM
The problem we had with our cabbie was that he tripled the price of the fare at the end with "surcharges"
And the hotel was no help.
In the end I think I met him halfway with him cursing me out.

Usually HKG cabbies are quite honest. I've had that issue in Bangkok a couple of times. Must be the Israeli influence :)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 22, 2013, 09:11:18 PM
Usually HKG cabbies are quite honest.
+1

I once got stuck without enough money, and although I offered to go to an ATM and make it right, the guy just laughed me off.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on July 22, 2013, 09:21:42 PM
The big advantage of the W is that it's right on top of the airport express station, no need to connect to a bus or subway or taxi.  You can drop off your stuff in your room and have a bellhop bring it down and recheck it to your destination.
And they're great with upgrades and have an awesome rooftop pool.
They can recheck it without you being there? Are they also generous with gold members?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 22, 2013, 10:35:58 PM
ime as well, the taxis are about the same price as the train
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 11:15:29 PM
Usually HKG cabbies are quite honest. I've had that issue in Bangkok a couple of times. Must be the Israeli influence :)
I seem to have a knack for finding bad ones I guess.
Had quite the interesting time in EZE with a cabbie a few months ago.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 22, 2013, 11:25:19 PM
I seem to have a knack for finding bad ones I guess.
Had quite the interesting time in EZE with a cabbie a few months ago.
I guess they have a good sense of who they can prey on :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2013, 11:29:35 PM
I guess they have a good sense of who they can prey on :P
Oh you should've seen what we did in EZE :D
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on July 22, 2013, 11:30:49 PM
Oh you should've seen what we did in EZE :D
Spill the beans ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: zemr on July 25, 2013, 03:03:14 AM
Hi everyone,

I don't know if anyone is currently awake and capable of helping me find a solution to a short-term problem.

I am currently sitting in the terminal and have another 5 hours before my Cathay flight back to NYC. I am flying Business Class, but my wife is flying Premium Economy (just worked out that way).

Anyway, I wanted to find a way to get her into the Cathay Lounge, but my ticket only gives me access. She is AA Gold (actually she is very close to Platinum, but the miles have not posted yet), and I have no Elite Status (unless you count Starwood Gold).

Any suggestions on how to get her into the lounges here so we don't have to wait in the terminal? (regretfully, I do not have AMEX Platinum either)


Thanks and Be Well!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 25, 2013, 04:04:12 AM
you cant guest her in with you?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: zemr on July 25, 2013, 04:13:06 AM
According the the people at Cathay, flying Business allows only the person sitting in Business to use the lounge.

I have found that Cathay Pacific is very unaccommodating when it comes to these kind of things. It feels like they are actively being adversarial. If it wasn't for the fact that I prefer OneWorld, I would definitely not recommend them (at least, based on my experiences thus far).

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the response though...

Be Well!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on July 25, 2013, 09:55:32 AM
Any other suggestions? Thanks for the response though...

How much would it cost to buy your way in? I know people around here don't like spending money, but sometimes it's worth it. Once you get home complain to Cathay for not being accommodating....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 25, 2013, 10:02:57 AM
Maybe try the Qantas lounge?

Say you are sick of always using the CX lounge and want to try QF

http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airlines/lounge-locations/hong-kong/terminal-1/international-business-lounge/global/en
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 25, 2013, 10:06:45 AM
Or try and find someone entering who is eligible to guest her
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: elibeli2 on July 25, 2013, 11:11:58 AM
I am stopping in HK for two days next week and after reading this thread I am really confused (might be time for someone who was there to write a wiki).


I would like to stay at at a Hyatt, which Hyatt should I stay at the Grand Hyatt in Hong Kong, or the one in Kalwoon.

Where are the kosher restaurants closer to Kalwoon or HKI?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 25, 2013, 11:13:48 AM
There are restaurants in both.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: elibeli2 on July 25, 2013, 11:15:36 AM
There are restaurants in both.

Which restaurants are where?

Any info about the Hyatts.

Which is easier to get from the airport Kalwoon or HKI?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 25, 2013, 11:18:58 AM
JCC on HKI and mul hayam in kowloon.

You can get to both HKI and kowloon in the airport train. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: elibeli2 on July 25, 2013, 11:30:21 AM
Thank you AJK!

Anyone have any info about the Hyatt's there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 25, 2013, 11:40:42 AM
Or try and find someone entering who is eligible to guest her
or just walk right in as if you belong there  ;D

BTDT
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 25, 2013, 11:47:20 AM
According the the people at Cathay, flying Business allows only the person sitting in Business to use the lounge.

I have found that Cathay Pacific is very unaccommodating when it comes to these kind of things. It feels like they are actively being adversarial. If it wasn't for the fact that I prefer OneWorld, I would definitely not recommend them (at least, based on my experiences thus far).

Any other suggestions? Thanks for the response though...

Be Well!

Any Luck?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 25, 2013, 12:25:21 PM
JCC on HKI and mul hayam in kowloon.

You can get to both HKI and kowloon in the airport train. 
+Shalom Grill and market on HKI (central)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: elibeli2 on July 25, 2013, 12:57:57 PM
I started a Wiki.

Please share what ever you can.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: zemr on August 14, 2013, 03:29:11 PM
Any Luck?

A late reply to your question, unfortunately, the answer was no, I couldn't get her in (although that won't be a problem in the future as she is now Platinum).

The consolation prize, when we finally went to board the plane, was finding out that she was upgraded to business! (I just wish they bothered telling us that while we could still make use of the lounge)

Thanks for the help anyway!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on August 16, 2013, 03:39:00 AM
A late reply to your question, unfortunately, the answer was no, I couldn't get her in (although that won't be a problem in the future as she is now Platinum).

The consolation prize, when we finally went to board the plane, was finding out that she was upgraded to business! (I just wish they bothered telling us that while we could still make use of the lounge)
She was upgraded  with gold status? AA gold?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: zemr on August 16, 2013, 10:06:56 AM
She was upgraded  with gold status? AA gold?

Yup... AA Gold. Her ticket said "PNN" on it... Any idea what that stands for?

We were pretty surprised about the upgrade, but were in no way going to complain about it!

Be Well!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on August 18, 2013, 10:13:23 AM
Yup... AA Gold. Her ticket said "PNN" on it... Any idea what that stands for?

We were pretty surprised about the upgrade, but were in no way going to complain about it!

Be Well!
Wow! Nice upgrade for a AA gold. Ya, not sure what PNN stands for. Although better than sitting outside you haven't missed much by not entering the CX Biz lounge. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 18, 2013, 05:31:54 PM
So I can be batting totally wrong here but are any of these Hotels in a good location with regards to Shuls or Restaurants?

Le Méridien Cyberport
Conrad Hong Kong
Grand Hyatt Hong Kong

TIA
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: elibeli2 on August 18, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
The Conrad and the GH are not really close to any Shuls, although they are close to Shalom Grill (3 min Taxi, half hour walk (not suggested!)) and close to the JCC (10 min taxi).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 18, 2013, 05:42:49 PM

The Conrad and the GH are not really close to any Shuls, although they are close to Shalom Grill (3 min Taxi, half hour walk (not suggested!)) and close to the JCC (10 min taxi).

How about the Le Meridien?

Any SPG or Hyatt near the shuls?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 18, 2013, 05:45:35 PM
Hyatt Regency; W HKG
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on August 18, 2013, 06:09:18 PM
So I can be batting totally wrong here but are any of these Hotels in a good location with regards to Shuls or Restaurants?

Le Méridien Cyberport
Conrad Hong Kong
Grand Hyatt Hong Kong

TIA
Coming from someone that recently stayed at the Conrad in HK I can tell you that it's a beautiful and very centered hotel. It's 10 minutes from the JCC, not far from Chabad, a 15 minute from the tram, in the heart of HK island and a few minute train ride to Kowloon (The train is underneath the hotel).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 18, 2013, 07:30:02 PM
not far from Chabad
1 mile from Chabad of HKI,  (https://local.google.com/maps?saddr=Macdonnell+Road,+7-9,+Mid-level,+Hong+Kong&daddr=Conrad+Hong+Kong+Hotel,+Admiralty,+Hong+Kong&hl=en&sll=22.277461,114.161274&sspn=0.009273,0.017231&geocode=FdnnUwEdA-TNBilTITTdbwAENDHyqSZdQPfvfg%3BFeLqUwEdMQbOBiFC3VZtMC_pQCkNVb22ZwAENDFC3VZtMC_pQA&oq=7-9+Macdonnell+Road&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&mra=luc&t=m&z=16)but that could be a nice climb. Anyone know?
Looks like it might be much shorter cutting through HKG Park.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 27, 2013, 01:10:59 PM
What can I expect when requesting Kosher Breakfast as a Diamond Member at the Hyatt Regency HK?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: elibeli2 on August 27, 2013, 01:12:39 PM
I stayed at the Grand Hyatt and the breaksfest was nothing to write home about, just some cream cheese and lox sandwiches and some pastries. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 27, 2013, 01:27:23 PM
I stayed at the Grand Hyatt and the breaksfest was nothing to write home about, just some cream cheese and lox sandwiches and some pastries.

It may not be something to "write home about" but the fact that you even got one is.

A kosher breakfast is not something you're entitled to.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 27, 2013, 01:55:17 PM
I stayed at the Grand Hyatt and the breaksfest was nothing to write home about, just some cream cheese and lox sandwiches and some pastries. 

The guy who comes to your room to make omelettes must have been off
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 27, 2013, 02:05:16 PM
The guy who comes to your room to make omelettes mustv'e been off

Is that a joke? They have someone make omelettes?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 27, 2013, 02:08:10 PM
Is that a joke? They have someone make omelettes?

Yes, it was a joke :)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 27, 2013, 03:10:47 PM
Yes, it was a joke :)

I haven't known you to be sarcastic. I like.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on September 17, 2013, 03:11:13 PM
Stamford IC is right next to Kehilat Zion davening and restaurant

Obviously HK Island is the center of things, so Id stay at that IC
So I'm down to this for a weekday night stay.
IC Hong Kong (2 rooms. 1 w/ 45k and 1 w/ free night cert) - Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a better location than the other ICs?
Sheraton - I could try booking 1 room, and using an SNA, but I don't think it'll get me enough space for a couple and 3 small kids.

Thoughts? I'd like to be able to pick up some baked goods in the morning.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 17, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
The W HKG is an awesome hotel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on September 17, 2013, 03:26:03 PM
The W HKG is an awesome hotel.
So I've read, but it's too pricey for me. Both with $$ and with points. Especially if I need a second room. If I knew they'd let me into a suite w/ the SNA, and that it would fit all of us, I'd probably go the C&P rate with them since I'm SPG Plat.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 17, 2013, 03:31:58 PM
You can get a decent corp rate, PM AJK.
Try for the SNA and have a backup plan? 

My suite there could have fit 10 kids.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on September 17, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
You can get a decent corp rate, PM AJK.
Try for the SNA and have a backup plan? 

My suite there could have fit 10 kids.
I've read that the HKG region in the world checks Corp rates closer. Do I run a risk there if they ask for id?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on September 17, 2013, 03:51:39 PM
I've read that the HKG region in the world checks Corp rates closer. Do I run a risk there if they ask for id?
Like I said, check with AJK.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on September 17, 2013, 04:51:43 PM
You can get a decent corp rate, PM AJK.
Try for the SNA and have a backup plan? 

My suite there could have fit 10 kids.
Ein mevi'I'm ra'ayah mi'Dan
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on November 14, 2013, 12:49:31 PM
Was there in October. Stayed in Hyatt Regency TST. Enjoyed the location, half a block away from the Chabad, three blocks away from Kehilat Zion.

Anyone needs any help feel free to ask, was there for six days.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 14, 2013, 01:15:03 PM
As of now, I have 2 rooms booked at the IC. Anyone stay there before? Is the location any good?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 20, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
Was there in October. Stayed in Hyatt Regency TST. Enjoyed the location, half a block away from the Chabad, three blocks away from Kehilat Zion.

Anyone needs any help feel free to ask, was there for six days.
How was it, and what would you recommend to do. I will be there from a Thursday night - Sunday afternoon. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on November 20, 2013, 10:40:32 AM

How was it, and what would you recommend to do. I will be there from a Thursday night - Sunday afternoon.

Service was good very accommodating. Didn't do that many things was there mostly business. They are very good about Shabbat if thats your thing.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yordai Dooma on November 20, 2013, 11:02:25 AM
Service was good very accommodating. Didn't do that many things was there mostly business. They are very good about Shabbat if thats your thing.
Have you been to the W there? Does it compare?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2013, 11:12:20 AM
The W is one of my favorite hotels in the world.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 20, 2013, 11:20:43 AM
The W is one of my favorite hotels in the world.
Not everyone will get their stay in a ginormous suite comped :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on November 20, 2013, 11:50:16 AM
Thinking of staying there when I go next
23k for a suite and a connecting room for 15k, cant go wrong.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2013, 11:54:56 AM
Not everyone will get their stay in a ginormous suite comped :P
Lol, IIRC AJK had a great time as well without that.
Easily the best W in the world and how it ought to be everywhere.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 20, 2013, 12:09:34 PM
Extremely convenient, accommodating, and good with Plat upgrades.

So ~$275 for a Fantastic Suite is a good, IMO.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2013, 12:20:06 PM
And a sweeeet rooftop infinity pool/hot tub.
Maybe not SIN Skypark suite, but this one is enjoyable b/c it's empty.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 20, 2013, 12:21:55 PM
Good point -- not sure how I forgot about that.

Also, it's in a pretty convenient location, and offers free shuttle down to the docks to get to HKI.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 20, 2013, 01:16:23 PM
You guys are tempting me to try the W, but I'd really prefer to not pay the cash for it.
Will they serve any kosher food for breakfast for a Plat member? What's so great about the place?
If I can confirm myself into a suite that would fit the 5 of us, I'd consider it stongly. Any ideas? Just email them and grovel?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 20, 2013, 02:34:50 PM
Two adults and three kids? Definitely can fit in fantastic+ suite.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 20, 2013, 03:46:01 PM
Two adults and three kids? Definitely can fit in fantastic+ suite.
What's the best way to get into the suite?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 20, 2013, 03:57:39 PM
$$$ :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2013, 04:10:19 PM
What's the best way to get into the suite?
Plats are generally given suites at this hotel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 20, 2013, 04:13:57 PM
Plats are generally given suites at this hotel.
yea, but I can't risk showing up, and them giving me a problem that we're a party of 5.
I sent them an email asking them what they can do.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 21, 2013, 10:24:04 AM
What are the must-sees on HKG?

Planning to see HKI, The Peak and take one of the tram tours. Any other places to go see?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 21, 2013, 11:01:24 AM
What are the must-sees on HKG?

Planning to see HKI, The Peak and take one of the tram tours. Any other places to go see?

If you have limited time, see my trip report to begin with :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 21, 2013, 11:03:53 AM
If you have limited time, see my trip report to begin with :P
First one i checked out!

I will have half a day Thursday, Friday and Sunday morning for "going out" activities. Figure i can do some walking around the hotel over Shababt.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 22, 2013, 12:06:24 PM
Thinking of staying at the Hyatt Regency HK Tsim Sha Tsui or Grand Hyatt Hong Kong.

The GHHK is on HKI while HRHK is across the harbour. Any advice on which one would be a better home base?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 22, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
Tsim shai tsui-i thought Dr. Middos made that up
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jmansour on November 22, 2013, 01:13:18 PM
Thinking of staying at the Hyatt Regency HK Tsim Sha Tsui or Grand Hyatt Hong Kong.

The GHHK is on HKI while HRHK is across the harbour. Any advice on which one would be a better home base?

stay on the harbour side its much nicer, youd be about 5 a minute walk  from the sephardic shul which has a great restaurant.
Definitely check out victorias peak my wife and I went twice, also walk around nathan rd and just explore all the shops etc.
we also walked through the financial district and then through the famous escalators. We also tried HK disney since my wife loves that stuff but it wasnt anything special.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 22, 2013, 01:17:03 PM
Thinking of staying at the Hyatt Regency HK Tsim Sha Tsui or Grand Hyatt Hong Kong.

The GHHK is on HKI while HRHK is across the harbour. Any advice on which one would be a better home base?
For how many days? Shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: daganster on November 22, 2013, 01:19:25 PM
Thinking of staying at the Hyatt Regency HK Tsim Sha Tsui or Grand Hyatt Hong Kong.

The GHHK is on HKI while HRHK is across the harbour. Any advice on which one would be a better home base?
I stayed at the Conrad on the island for a day. It's pretty centrally located i.e. near the peak, chabad, JCC, and train underneath the hotel. I felt that the island is nicer than Kowloon.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 22, 2013, 03:53:17 PM
stay on the harbour side its much nicer, youd be about 5 a minute walk  from the sephardic shul which has a great restaurant.
Definitely check out victorias peak my wife and I went twice, also walk around nathan rd and just explore all the shops etc.
we also walked through the financial district and then through the famous escalators. We also tried HK disney since my wife loves that stuff but it wasnt anything special.
Which side of the harbor? Kowloon or HKI?

For how many days? Shabbos?
We will be getting in around 4PM on thursday and will be leaving Sunday around 2PM.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 22, 2013, 04:01:49 PM
The HR Tsim Sha Tsui isn't a shabbos friendly hotel.

I don't think it makes a big difference which side you stay on, it's really easy to hop on a metro, cab, or star ferry.
On the HKI side is the JCC with several restaurant options but you'll miss the great Sunday night buffet there.  HKI also has Chabad and Shalom Grill.

Kowloon side has Mul Hayam and the awesome W, but the W isn't for shabbos as well.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 23, 2013, 10:28:38 PM
The HR Tsim Sha Tsui isn't a shabbos friendly hotel.

I don't think it makes a big difference which side you stay on, it's really easy to hop on a metro, cab, or star ferry.
On the HKI side is the JCC with several restaurant options but you'll miss the great Sunday night buffet there.  HKI also has Chabad and Shalom Grill.

Kowloon side has Mul Hayam and the awesome W, but the W isn't for shabbos as well.
So it seems like the GHHK is where i will book.

Thanks for all the input.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 25, 2013, 08:32:13 AM
Is it easy to take public transportation from the airport to the IC on a Sunday night? I'll be with 3 kids.
The IC wanted 1,100 HK$.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ML1219 on November 25, 2013, 03:17:45 PM
How Shabbas-unfriendly exactly is the W?

Staying there for 4 days including over Shabbas. I don't want to switch hotels, so either Sheraton or W.

Is the W so much better than the Sheraton that you folks think it's worth it even with the Sheraton being far more convenient? Or is the gap in Shabbas-convenience bigger than the gap in betterness? Google maps has the walk from KZ to the W at 1.5 miles, which is perfectly fine for me. Is there anything else I should know about shabbas-wise?

If it's at all relevant, I am platinum, something to take into account if one hotel is particularly better on the platinum-treatment front
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Brian on November 25, 2013, 11:23:32 PM
Is it easy to take public transportation from the airport to the IC on a Sunday night? I'll be with 3 kids.
The IC wanted 1,100 HK$.
You could try contacting Albert at albertsun18@yahoo.com.hk or 13902446107. I used him a few times going to Shenzhen from HKG. He has a nice minivan
 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:04:07 PM
You could try contacting Albert at albertsun18@yahoo.com.hk or 13902446107. I used him a few times going to Shenzhen from HKG. He has a nice minivan
 
He quoted me 550 each way which is half the price of IC, and isn't too much more than the train + cab I'd otherwise need.
Seem reasonable to you?
And is he cash only?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 26, 2013, 02:05:20 PM
W and you will only pay for the train.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:10:31 PM
W and you will only pay for the train.

:)  I appreciate your trying to convince me. If the price dropped, I'd be willing.
Or if I could SNA my way into a suite that could fit us all, maybe I'd do C&P.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 26, 2013, 02:13:25 PM
:)  I appreciate your trying to convince me. If the price dropped, I'd be willing.
Or if I could SNA my way into a suite that could fit us all, maybe I'd do C&P.
They're excellent about upgrading plats, did you try calling/emailing a mngr?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:16:52 PM
They're excellent about upgrading plats, did you try calling/emailing a mngr?
Good point, I'll give it a whirl.
Any chance of receiving kosher food for breakfast?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 26, 2013, 02:44:53 PM
They're excellent about upgrading plats, did you try calling/emailing a mngr?
Should I just email the address on their website, or does anyone have the direct email of someone higher up who has a soft spot in his heart for the underdog?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Brian on November 26, 2013, 10:10:26 PM
And is he cash only?
I don't know, I always paid him cash.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: yare on December 03, 2013, 01:55:53 PM
has anyone stayed at the hyatt regency shah tin? how far out is it from the kosher food and central stuff?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: yare on December 08, 2013, 05:12:57 PM
:)  I appreciate your trying to convince me. If the price dropped, I'd be willing.
Or if I could SNA my way into a suite that could fit us all, maybe I'd do C&P.
what did you book at the ic which fits your family? how much are you paying?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on December 09, 2013, 04:08:07 AM
what did you book at the ic which fits your family? how much are you paying?
Booked 2 rooms.
45k points for one, (40.5k after 10% rebate), and used my annual free night cert for the second.
Not ideal, but rooms in HKG seem small, and I really don't wanna pay out of pocket if I can avoid it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: yare on December 09, 2013, 08:52:19 AM
Booked 2 rooms.
45k points for one, (40.5k after 10% rebate), and used my annual free night cert for the second.
Not ideal, but rooms in HKG seem small, and I really don't wanna pay out of pocket if I can avoid it.
only one night?  where are you staying the rest of the time?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on December 09, 2013, 10:14:24 AM
only one night?  where are you staying the rest of the time?
end of a trip
3-Krabi
4-Khao Lok
1-Phuket
5-Bali

Going to Bali tomorrow.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on December 09, 2013, 10:41:23 AM
U were alreadz at Khao Lak?

Check out the a3 villa, stayed there. Its amazing

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on December 09, 2013, 10:57:37 AM
U were alreadz at Khao Lak?

Check out the a3 villa, stayed there. Its amazing


left today
Used an SNA for a suite, w/ a connecting room for the family
W/ the very large pool, it's easy finding empty spots to go into, so unless the wife wants total privacy, the pool villa seems pricey w/o too much marginal benefit.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 09, 2013, 08:39:19 PM
Just booked GHHK.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on December 12, 2013, 06:17:39 AM
I'm rethinking using up my one night cert and 40k points at the IC.
Does anyone have any advice for some cheap but decent place in a good area? No need for it to be part of a chain.

Also, how far is Victoria's peak (the tram) from the city? If that's our only definite plan right now, is it worth staying somewhere close to there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 06, 2014, 01:27:42 PM
GH HKI or HR TST-which is nicer and is a better value for my points (for during the week-not Shabbos), and which is in a better location (again-not for Shabbos). I have Hyatt 2 free nights+50,000+ hyatt points. Thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 06, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
I'm rethinking using up my one night cert and 40k points at the IC.
Does anyone have any advice for some cheap but decent place in a good area? No need for it to be part of a chain.

Also, how far is Victoria's peak (the tram) from the city? If that's our only definite plan right now, is it worth staying somewhere close to there?
FYI, really enjoyed my stay.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on January 06, 2014, 02:09:43 PM

GH HKI or HR TST-which is nicer and is a better value for my points (for during the week-not Shabbos), and which is in a better location (again-not for Shabbos). I have Hyatt 2 free nights+50,000+ hyatt points. Thanks!

I stayed in the HR TST was very pleased. Was upgraded to a suite and really liked the location.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 06, 2014, 02:14:46 PM
any advice for a cheap hotel for kowloon for shab?
how about these two?
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294217-d305934-Reviews-Stanford_Hillview_Hotel-Hong_Kong.html
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294217-d583098-Reviews-Xi_Hotel-Hong_Kong.html
both under $200, would prefer even cheaper if its clean
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on January 06, 2014, 02:37:01 PM

any advice for a cheap hotel for kowloon for shab?
how about these two?
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294217-d305934-Reviews-Stanford_Hillview_Hotel-Hong_Kong.html
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294217-d583098-Reviews-Xi_Hotel-Hong_Kong.html
both under $200, would prefer even cheaper if its clean

Kehilat Zion Synagogue offer discounted rates from some hotels nearby. Look at their website.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 06, 2014, 03:06:12 PM
Kehilat Zion Synagogue offer discounted rates from some hotels nearby. Look at their website.
i did, emailed their travel agent carl@richwintravel, all hotles he gave me were over $200
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on January 06, 2014, 03:11:32 PM
i did, emailed their travel agent carl@richwintravel, all hotles he gave me were over $200

What dates you looking for?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 07, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
I see there are 2 IC hotels in kowloon and both are a 5-7 min. walk from KZ and Chabad. Is there a reason that most people on the thread have stayed at the IC grand stanford and not the other one ( is the reg. IC not Shabbos friendly and the IC GS is...??Is there a difference in quality, service, location, etc.)? Has anyone stayed at the reg. IC and can comment on their experience there I would appreciate it!! Thanks!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 07, 2014, 04:01:47 PM
I see there are 2 IC hotels in kowloon and both are a 5-7 min. walk from KZ and Chabad. Is there a reason that most people on the thread have stayed at the IC grand stanford and not the other one ( is the reg. IC not Shabbos friendly and the IC GS is...??Is there a difference in quality, service, location, etc.)? Has anyone stayed at the reg. IC and can comment on their experience there I would appreciate it!! Thanks!!

I'm rethinking using up my one night cert and 40k points at the IC.
Does anyone have any advice for some cheap but decent place in a good area? No need for it to be part of a chain.

Also, how far is Victoria's peak (the tram) from the city? If that's our only definite plan right now, is it worth staying somewhere close to there?

FYI, really enjoyed my stay.

Feel free to pm me w/ q's
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 08, 2014, 02:15:25 AM
What dates you looking for?
march 28-30
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on February 04, 2014, 02:05:15 PM
Has anyone ever stayed at the IC HK (not the IC grand stanford)? On Shabbos? Is it also Shabbos friendly (like the gs)? Anyone know which is nicer? Thanks!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on February 05, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Looking into a trip this summer to Thailand, I basically have flights into the "area", but trying to figure out how to plan best.

Going for around 2 weeks.

I plan on flying CX Monday from USA-HKG and will arrive in HKG Tuesday night.

So some starter questions.

1) How long should I stay in HKG before going to HKT/CNX or anywhere else.

2) Is it worth to stay till Sunday night for the JCC or would that be wayy to long in HKG.

3) I am SPG Plat and it seems that W HKG with fifth free night and the plat gift (35% off), would be a spectacular value (10400 points a night).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
3 days in HKG, 4 if you do Macau.

Not worth staying an extra three days for an all you can eat dinner.

W HKG is a great hotel, but that means you'd have to stay 5 nights :P

/.02
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on February 05, 2014, 07:55:27 PM
3 days in HKG, 4 if you do Macau.

Not worth staying an extra three days for an all you can eat dinner.

W HKG is a great hotel, but that means you'd have to stay 5 nights :P

/.02
5 nights is fine by me.

It's been mentioned up thread that the W is not shabbos friendly.

How not shabbos friendly is it.

I'm fine with staying in my room and eating some meals there if need be.

What else is the problem?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2014, 08:00:07 PM
Nice thing about staying tues-sun is you have time to tailor something and get it altered as well.

With Macau you can keep busy.

If you don't mind staying in your room all shabbos you'll be fine. Rooms are 70 floors up.
But shabbos is very nice at KZ and at Chabad HKI
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 05, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
Nice thing about staying tues-sun is you have time to tailor something and get it altered as well.

With Macau you can keep busy.

If you don't mind staying in your room all shabbos you'll be fine. Rooms are 70 floors up.
But shabbos is very nice at KZ and at Chabad HKI
What is the turn around time to make something up? Worthwhile to get stuff done in HKG or CNX?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2014, 09:01:53 PM
Gonna be half the price in CNX.

But may not be quite the quality.

Either way, it'll be cheaper than 5th Ave :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2014, 09:05:52 PM
CNX isn't known for high quality goods but it will be cheaper.
In 5 days in HKG I had an awesome super 150s kapota made and altered.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 05, 2014, 09:15:22 PM

CNX isn't known for high quality goods but it will be cheaper.
In 5 days in HKG I had an awesome super 150s kapota made and altered.

There's a lot more to the quality of wool than the supers #.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 05, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Gonna be half the price in CNX.

But may not be quite the quality.

Either way, it'll be cheaper than 5th Ave :P
CNX isn't known for high quality goods but it will be cheaper.
In 5 days in HKG I had an awesome super 150s kapota made and altered.
I'm going to be in CNX from a Sunday afternoon - Thursday morning and in HKG Thursday afternoon - Sunday morning. If somehow i can get it done on HKG during that time, i would prefer the higher quality. If it doesn't seem feasible, i'll just get it in CNX.


Any recommendations of tailors in either place?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2014, 09:26:11 PM
There's a lot more to the quality of wool than the supers #.
Of this I'm well aware.
I've had several and nine compare to the HKG one made on the spot.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2014, 09:27:09 PM
Tai Pan in HKGs admiralty center.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 05, 2014, 09:29:41 PM
Tai Pan in HKGs admiralty center.
Thanks. They even have a website! Says they can make stuff ~48 hours.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on February 05, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
Nice thing about staying tues-sun is you have time to tailor something and get it altered as well.

With Macau you can keep busy.

If you don't mind staying in your room all shabbos you'll be fine. Rooms are 70 floors up.
But shabbos is very nice at KZ and at Chabad HKI
Someone will be pretty insulted if I start shopping elsewhere ;)

Seems like the W won't be an option for Shabbos.

So probably better to just go to CNX Thursday night/Friday morning and being there for Shabbos, then switching hotels in HKG and going to CNX on Sunday.

I remember somewhere here a debate about where to spend Shabbos, was that HKG/CNX or something totally different.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on February 06, 2014, 07:02:54 AM
Tai Pan in HKGs admiralty center.
Anyone know the approx prices for a suit and shirt here?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 06, 2014, 09:22:44 AM
Thanks. They even have a website! Says they can make stuff ~48 hours.
You can have a suit made in 24 hours. Issue is you will need to go back and forth with alterations afterwards.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 06, 2014, 09:23:37 AM
You can have a suit made in 24 hours. Issue is you will need to go back and forth with alterations afterwards.
Did you get one made there?  Do you know the pricing?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 01:33:52 PM
Anyone know the approx prices for a suit and shirt here?
3 years ago my Kapota was $490, no idea about other prices.
Wool quality and stitching is leaps and bounds better everything that the CH stores sell. Came with choice of hundreds of silk linings, etc.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: yfriedman7 on February 06, 2014, 02:45:58 PM
His prices have gone up since I think suits start at 650 now but great quality
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 06, 2014, 03:07:17 PM
I went to Sams Tailors.. Am very happy with the suit quality and shirts.. I ordered one shirt to see how it would be and after ended up ordering two more which he mailed to me for free. I was there for about a week so we had plenty of time to go back and forth.

Suits around $550., Shirts around $55.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 06, 2014, 03:22:18 PM
3 years ago my Kapota was $490, no idea about other prices.
Wool quality and stitching is leaps and bounds better everything that the CH stores sell. Came with choice of hundreds of silk linings, etc.
how much are they regularly?
Title: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on February 06, 2014, 03:31:46 PM
I went to Sams Tailors.. Am very happy with the suit quality and shirts.. I ordered one shirt to see how it would be and after ended up ordering two more which he mailed to me for free. I was there for about a week so we had plenty of time to go back and forth.

Suits around $550., Shirts around $55.

The reviews on Sams are awful.  It would also be helpful to describe what other companies you are comparing it to. Apples to apples.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 03:33:52 PM
Too bad if Tai Pan went up that much. Guess they've been discovered.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 06, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
The reviews on Sams are awful.  It would also be helpful to describe what other companies you are comparing it to. Apples to apples.

Well I was happy. Everything fit great.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: yfriedman7 on February 06, 2014, 06:04:32 PM
Too bad if Tai Pan went up that much. Guess they've been discovered.

Been more than discovered... he visits the US regularly now
Title: Re: Hyatt Awards And Upgrades Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2014, 11:37:29 PM
You're going for shabbos?
Davening at Chabad of HKI?
Title: Re: Re: Hyatt Awards And Upgrades Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 18, 2014, 11:42:46 PM
You're going for shabbos?
Davening at Chabad of HKI?
April 3-6. Stopping on the way back from Thailand.

Haven't figured that out yet. Heard something about a sephardic shul... Though probably will go with what is closer.
Title: Re: Re: Hyatt Awards And Upgrades Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 18, 2014, 11:50:02 PM
April 3-6. Stopping on the way back from Thailand.

Haven't figured that out yet. Heard something about a sephardic shul... Though probably will go with what is closer.
I believe Shuva is closest to GH
Title: Re: Re: Hyatt Awards And Upgrades Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 18, 2014, 11:51:27 PM
I believe Shuva is closest to GH
I'll look into it. Thanks.
I have not done much research yet as what to do there and what my options are. Maybe the next week or so i'll get around to it.
Title: Re: Re: Hyatt Awards And Upgrades Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2014, 11:55:17 PM
April 3-6. Stopping on the way back from Thailand.

Haven't figured that out yet. Heard something about a sephardic shul... Though probably will go with what is closer.
Missing the Sunday night BBQ?

If you want to be at KZ then you need to stay in Kowloon and not the GH.  Prob an IC or Sheraton.
If you want to stay at an awesome hotel than it's the W, but it's not shabbos friendly.

We stayed next door to chabad on the island for shabbos and then moved to the W.
Title: Re: Re: Hyatt Awards And Upgrades Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 18, 2014, 11:59:56 PM
Missing the Sunday night BBQ?

If you want to be at KZ then you need to stay in Kowloon and not the GH.  Prob an IC or Sheraton.
If you want to stay at an awesome hotel than it's the W, but it's not shabbos friendly.

We stayed next door to chabad on the island for shabbos and then moved to the W.
Flight out i think is around 3. Will have to come back another time.

Not particular where i would go to shul. The W sounds nice, but will probably also be on a different trip.

Hopefully the suite upgrades put as somewhere nice. I need to see if they can get breakfast for me while i'm there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 18, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
Can anyone offer a few things to do in HKG (already plan on going to The Peak). I will be staying on HKI and have Wednesday afternoon-Saturday night to sight see. Would be great to have some ideas for things located near each other.

TIA
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 25, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
Planning a trip to HKG, booked at the Sheraton for Shabbos. Has anyone stayed there over Shabbos? Were they accommodating? Any other advice?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 26, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
Anyone have any suggestions for a good tailor for custom shirts and suits?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 26, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
How much do you want to spend?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 27, 2014, 08:09:58 AM
I am looking to spend up to $500.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 27, 2014, 10:44:29 AM
Jentzen might be your best bet in that price range.

Be very thorough with fittings as that's what it's all about.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 27, 2014, 11:37:58 AM
Are Tai Pan, Simpson Sin, and Sams more expensive? Will I be getting a quality suit at that price?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 27, 2014, 11:45:36 AM
Are Tai Pan, Simpson Sin, and Sams more expensive? Will I be getting a quality suit at that price?

Last october i got a suit and three shirts at sams. Everything fits me perfect and is still in great shirt. The shirts i love the material and the fit, would definitely get more next time i am there. The suit as well, the fit is great and i cant complain. The suit was around 450$ and shirts were around $50. The most i ever spent on shirts but i would gladly buy more anytime i go back.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 27, 2014, 12:59:22 PM
Did you find the people at Sams helpful or do I need to do my research and going in knowing about what I am looking for.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 27, 2014, 01:08:16 PM
Did you find the people at Sams helpful or do I need to do my research and going in knowing about what I am looking for.

They were helpful. I knew nothing about this stuff
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 27, 2014, 01:16:33 PM
I have an appointment at Sam's for next thursday morning. Can report back after.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 27, 2014, 02:16:38 PM
Please d
I have an appointment at Sam's for next thursday morning. Can report back after.

Please do as I am curious.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 30, 2014, 08:03:18 AM
Please d
Please do as I am curious.
I am not going to end up going to Sam's. Found a great tailor in CNX that i am having make some stuff for me. Sorry.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 30, 2014, 09:12:43 AM
How can you know if a tailor is great until you see the finished product made for you?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 30, 2014, 05:52:40 PM
How can you know if a tailor is great until you see the finished product made for you?
True.

I guess for the time being, i am just really happy with how the initial meeting was and will comment on the finished product later. I did not get such a great vibe when emailing with Sam's and all this guy did was make me feel comfortable.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 30, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
@Dan where did you have your clothes made? Would you recommend that tailor?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 30, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
Tai pan in admiralty center.
Only had a kapota made but its excellent.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on March 30, 2014, 09:57:31 PM
Has anyone else used Tai Pan tailors for a Suit/shirts? Would you recommend them?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on April 07, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
Link to my TR http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=40302.new#new (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=40302.new#new)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 07, 2014, 09:27:39 PM
The Hyatt Regency TST is lending out Smartphones to use when a guest now.

http://hongkong.tsimshatsui.hyatt.com/en/hotel/news-and-events/news-listing/handyphone.html
Quote
Hotel Offers Complimentary Handy Smartphone Service

In order to bring the very best travel experience to the guests staying with us, Hyatt Regency Hong Kong, Tsim Sha Tsui is pleased to offer complimentary handy smartphone service to hotel guests starting from 17 March 2014.
 
With the handy smartphone, hotel guests will enjoy unlimited local and international calls to USA, United Kingdom, Australia, Singapore and China, unlimited 3G mobile Internet access, interactive maps, a Hong Kong city guide, as well as a list of offers across Hong Kong.
 
Mr Xavier Pech, General Manager of Hyatt Regency Hong Kong, Tsim Sha Tsui, said “We are pleased to introduce the handy experience to our guests, as we always strive to offer state-of-the-art amenities to cater to the needs of business and leisure travellers.”
 
For enquiries, call 2311 1234 or email hongkong.tsimshatsui@hyatt.com.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moishatdansdeals on April 24, 2014, 04:43:25 PM
I am flying first class through Hong Kong (cathay pecific) in July. Should I try and get any specific arrangements (seat, meal etc) or just sit back from here on out?

Recommendations appreciated.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on April 24, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
I am flying first class through Hong Kong (cathay pecific) in July. Should I try and get any specific arrangements (seat, meal etc) or just sit back from here on out?

Recommendations appreciated.

Thanks.
Can't hurt to ask for Kosher. I believe they have Hermolis meals.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2014, 04:50:44 PM
I am flying first class through Hong Kong (cathay pecific) in July. Should I try and get any specific arrangements (seat, meal etc) or just sit back from here on out?

Recommendations appreciated.

Thanks.

Sit on the left side of the plane (more private).

Definitely order Kosher meals, although you may want to risk bringing your own food and asking them to heat it up (though some have had trouble with CX in this regard).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on April 24, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Sit on the left side of the plane (more private).

Definitely order Kosher meals, although you may want to risk bringing your own food and asking them to heat it up (though some have had trouble with CX in this regard).
Can bring deli and have them keep it in a fridge. May be easier.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moishatdansdeals on April 24, 2014, 05:00:03 PM
Nice.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2014, 10:04:53 PM
CX is verrrry strict. Don't be surprised if they won't heat up nor refrigerate your own meals.

Don't forget to order kosher from the lounge if departing HKG.
Title: Hotel near shul in Kowloon (Honk Kong)
Post by: raccah on May 01, 2014, 07:02:37 PM
My friend told me to stay at the shangri-la in Kowloon because it is next door to the sepharidic shul in Kowloon and is nice. Sadly, Shangri-la is not part of a global partner like SPG or Hyatt, etc. Is there another hotel in that area that is a partner to a global hotel chain that I can use one of my hotel cards at?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hotel near shul in Kowloon (Honk Kong)
Post by: chucksterace on May 01, 2014, 07:22:13 PM
Use a handy feature called the search box and search. There is already a thread that has your answers. Its called the "Hong Kong Master Thread". Enjoy
Title: Re: Hotel near shul in Kowloon (Honk Kong)
Post by: raccah on May 01, 2014, 07:27:19 PM
Sorry - I searched in "on the road" forum - I did not know there is an entire other forum that also talks about on the road subjects!!!!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hotel near shul in Kowloon (Honk Kong)
Post by: chucksterace on May 01, 2014, 07:33:02 PM

Sorry - I searched in "on the road" forum - I did not know there is an entire other forum that also talks about on the road subjects!!!!

Thanks!

Np. Enjoy your trip. I enjoyed the Hyatt Regency TST there but you need to take a elevator so up to you.
Title: Re: Hotel near shul in Kowloon (Honk Kong)
Post by: raccah on May 01, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
Thanks the sheraton is what I see and will use - will follow up on that thread - thx again
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: raccah on May 01, 2014, 07:42:01 PM
Dan, read my tripreport. I was in hong kong and think 2 days is enough to see all. It depends how much shopping you want to do. I stayesd from friday till sunday night, that was fine.
I can only strongly suggest you spend shabbes in kehilat zion on the kowloon side. The food was amazing, beats every 5 star hotel. The atmosphere was very nice and its within short walking distance to a sheraton. There is also a shangrila right next to it. I stayed in the intercontinental grand standford.
The f and f rate was about the same as cash and pointd with starwood

Hello,

I will be staying for a shabbos in Kalwoon - Is the Sheraton too far from KZ? Also, do the Sheraton folks know about shabbat? Also, the prices at the sheraton look far lower than the Shangri-la. I love Sheraton normally, will the hotel stand up to my expectations and how hard is the shabbos life there? Otherwise, I will stay at shangri-la and get only 2.2x

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: raccah on May 01, 2014, 07:56:29 PM
My friend told me he has stayed at both the shagri-la and the sheraton and the extra cost (and lower points for the bux) - are worth it at this time of year as the heat and humidity is way too high. Have others been there and agree???
Title: Re: Hotel near shul in Kowloon (Honk Kong)
Post by: EMCC on May 01, 2014, 08:08:39 PM
My friend told me to stay at the shangri-la in Kowloon because it is next door to the sepharidic shul in Kowloon and is nice. Sadly, Shangri-la is not part of a global partner like SPG or Hyatt, etc. Is there another hotel in that area that is a partner to a global hotel chain that I can use one of my hotel cards at?

Thanks!

Hyatt Regency Kowloon.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2014, 08:10:44 PM
HRK isn't shabbos friendly.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 01, 2014, 08:21:34 PM
HRK isn't shabbos friendly.

So what do you suggest? Holiday Inn? I often see the Luxe Manor for less than $100 on the Hotel Quickly app. I do not know the exact location but that sounds like a great deal.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2014, 08:30:39 PM
I stayed on HKI for shabbos and went to Chabad of HKI, which was an incredible experience.
After shabbos we went to the W (also not shabbos friendly) which was just phenomenal.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: pizzahut on May 05, 2014, 05:21:54 AM
ive been there. terrific place and highly recommend the JCC.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 05, 2014, 05:31:34 AM
ive been there.

Hong Kong?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: pizzahut on May 05, 2014, 06:48:08 AM
Hong Kong?
yessir. Its really nice. The JCC has some very nice facilities including restaurants and a store.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 07, 2014, 08:27:24 PM
i stayed at the sheraton for shabbos. it was not too far from KZ
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on May 07, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
i stayed at the sheraton for shabbos. it was not too far from KZ

Were they shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 08, 2014, 06:00:06 AM
Were they shabbos friendly?
from what i recall, yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 14, 2014, 04:46:20 PM
Anybody been to HKG in the summer that can comment on how bad the weather really is in August? Does it really rain every day (the type that ruins a day or mild?)? Is it really unbearable outside for more than 10 mins? If you cant really spend time outside bec. of the heat then is it not worth it bec. you won't want to go around and see the sites, etc.? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated?
PS-Traveling with a wife and 22 month old as well-if that makes a difference.....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 14, 2014, 04:48:05 PM
Ill b there this weekend. If that would help.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 14, 2014, 11:15:55 PM
Anybody been to HKG in the summer that can comment on how bad the weather really is in August? Does it really rain every day (the type that ruins a day or mild?)? Is it really unbearable outside for more than 10 mins? If you cant really spend time outside bec. of the heat then is it not worth it bec. you won't want to go around and see the sites, etc.? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated?
PS-Traveling with a wife and 22 month old as well-if that makes a difference.....

You can expect it to rain every day. Rain in Hong Kong is really not a big deal though because everything is indoors....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 15, 2014, 07:06:11 AM
the only thing is you wont get a great picture from the peak
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 15, 2014, 08:29:22 AM
Anybody been to HKG in the summer that can comment on how bad the weather really is in August? Does it really rain every day (the type that ruins a day or mild?)? Is it really unbearable outside for more than 10 mins? If you cant really spend time outside bec. of the heat then is it not worth it bec. you won't want to go around and see the sites, etc.? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated?
PS-Traveling with a wife and 22 month old as well-if that makes a difference.....
In April, we got "stuck" in the rain for an hour trying to find the Big Bus with our 6 month old. Was not fun. Plan activities you can do inside as a backup to going around in case it really doesn't stop raining.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2014, 11:49:46 PM
I am spending the night tonight in Hong Kong. I need suggestions for hotels. I am looking at 3 hotels now, all about the same price ($110). Should I stay in the Traders Hotel (by Shangri-La), the Hyatt Regency in ShaTin or the Crowne Plaza Kowloon East???
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 29, 2014, 09:09:19 AM
I am spending the night tonight in Hong Kong. I need suggestions for hotels. I am looking at 3 hotels now, all about the same price ($110). Should I stay in the Traders Hotel (by Shangri-La), the Hyatt Regency in ShaTin or the Crowne Plaza Kowloon East???
HRTST is supposed to be nice and they will give you a phone for the day.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 29, 2014, 09:42:39 AM
HRTST is supposed to be nice and they will give you a phone for the day.
It is a great hotel, my go to whenever I am there. Phone feature is very handy. Used it last time
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 29, 2014, 11:48:26 AM
It is almost triple the price.... I ended up booking the Crowne Plaza Kowloon East. It is very far from anything but it is a decent hotel. I got it for about $90 after fees and I got an upgraded room.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 29, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
Just a recap of my short weekend trip to Hong Kong.

I was there May 15th to May 19th. I flew Cathay Pacific first class from ORD-HKG. It was a nice long flight, but I kind of wish it was longer.  :( . My return flight was to Israel, I flew HKG-BKK-TLV (CX, LY), nothing special.

In Hong Kong I stayed at the Hyatt Regency TST using my free anniversary night and two nights points. My second time there and most likely where I would stay in the future. Great hotel, GREAT location. You can get to the MTR (subway) without even stepping outside. Great for when its raining or way TOO hot. Plus, they now give you a free phone to use while you are there which is very convenient. For shabbat I ate at the Chabad across the street. They are very welcoming and super awesome. I look forward to going back to them again next time I go to town.

Did the usual night markets. Got a bunch of random things. Cufflinks, lasers, fake wallets and belt. Also went to Ocean Park - expensive, but I guess do it once, then no more!!

For my last night I stayed at the Conrad. Wow. Top notch hotel. The service was amazing as well. I stayed on a free night from the cc signup. Got upgraded to the executive floor with the harbor view and lounge access (only gold status from the CC). They had kosher mini boxes of cereals for breakfast and hard boiled eggs. Don't forget to ask for turndown service, they give you a cute little teddy bear with the Conrad Hong Kong stitched into it.

Finally, the airport express train is clean, comfy, and fast. Going to start taking that instead of a taxi. I don't recommend going to Hong Kong in the summer,, WAY TOO HOT AND HUMID!!!

But once again, another successful trip. Thank you Citi bank for giving me 100k miles to support my trip. (67.5k ORD-HKG CX F; HKG-BKK-TLV 30k J.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 30, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
In Hong Kong I stayed at the Hyatt Regency TST using my free anniversary night and two nights points. My second time there and most likely where I would stay in the future. Great hotel, GREAT location. You can get to the MTR (subway) without even stepping outside. Great for when its raining or way TOO hot. Plus, they now give you a free phone to use while you are there which is very convenient. For shabbat I ate at the Chabad across the street. They are very welcoming and super awesome. I look forward to going back to them again next time I go to town.

Finally, the airport express train is clean, comfy, and fast. Going to start taking that instead of a taxi. I don't recommend going to Hong Kong in the summer,, WAY TOO HOT AND HUMID!!!
Wow!! nice!! can you tell me about HRTST-are they shabbos friendly? did they upgrade you at all?
Is the weather there really unbearable-I am planning on going in August with my wife and 22 month old-will we really not enjoy because of the weather-should we cancel our plans and go elsewhere (is it really more unbearable than Israel and Europe in the summer?)? Thanks so much in advance!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 30, 2014, 10:16:16 AM
Wow!! nice!! can you tell me about HRTST-are they shabbos friendly? did they upgrade you at all?
Is the weather there really unbearable-I am planning on going in August with my wife and 22 month old-will we really not enjoy because of the weather-should we cancel our plans and go elsewhere (is it really more unbearable than Israel and Europe in the summer?)? Thanks so much in advance!!

Regarding Shabbat you need to go in a elevator so AYLOR. But regarding shabbas, all the staff know when you go up to them and ask then know what you are talking about. And on Shabbat Day they came up to my room right on the dot - 9:30am, right when I asked for the night before. Very precise and helpful.

The difference between HK and Israel is that it is MUCH MORE HUMID!! I went in October also and it was a bunch for bearable and nicer then.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 30, 2014, 10:21:07 AM
are they shabbos friendly?
Not unless you use non-shabbos elevators.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 30, 2014, 10:24:24 AM
Thanks!! is it humid enough that you cant stay outdoors for more than a few minutes or would you say its manageable-sorry for the nitty gritty- I just dont want to spend all those points/$$$ and then have a miserable time there cause it was to hot to leave the hotel..... Thanks again!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 30, 2014, 10:29:49 AM
Thanks!! is it humid enough that you cant stay outdoors for more than a few minutes or would you say its manageable-sorry for the nitty gritty- I just dont want to spend all those points/$$$ and then have a miserable time there cause it was to hot to leave the hotel..... Thanks again!!

I went out during the day, but always snuck into busses, trains, or stores whenever I could just to get out of the heat. When I went to the markets, I went to just get what I needed not roam around or explore, then straight back to the hotel
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 30, 2014, 10:42:05 AM
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on May 30, 2014, 12:04:37 PM
I was in Sin in August and it wasnt so bad
Will be there in august as well
Staying at the Hyatt Tsim tsa
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on June 24, 2014, 11:30:14 PM
Hello. Is there a thread that informs how many points/how much it costs to book hotels in Hong Kong and Macau (Macau will only be a day and a half)? I couldn't find one so I'm posting here.

I read the wiki and it seems like Grand Hyatt and W are the go to places, but I was wondering if there are any others that take minimal points/cash, yet around the main attractions and sites. We really aren't picky, but we also want to be conveniently located. My wife and I will be there 7/3-7/7. I have SPG, UR, and MR if this helps. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on June 24, 2014, 11:43:24 PM
Go to the websites of the Hotel chains you have points with and choose the points option.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 25, 2014, 08:09:08 AM
Hello. Is there a thread that informs how many points/how much it costs to book hotels in Hong Kong and Macau (Macau will only be a day and a half)? I couldn't find one so I'm posting here.

I read the wiki and it seems like Grand Hyatt and W are the go to places, but I was wondering if there are any others that take minimal points/cash, yet around the main attractions and sites. We really aren't picky, but we also want to be conveniently located. My wife and I will be there 7/3-7/7. I have SPG, UR, and MR if this helps. Thanks in advance!
The Hyatt Regency is also a nice option, plus they give you a phone. Just check to see if you are ok basing yourself from that location. (cheaper than GH as well).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 25, 2014, 09:23:01 AM
The Hyatt Regency is also a nice option, plus they give you a phone. Just check to see if you are ok basing yourself from that location. (cheaper than GH as well).

+1. Stayed there many times. IF you are taking the Metra all over then you have a stations right below with no need of even going outside.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on June 25, 2014, 07:30:05 PM
+1. Stayed there many times. IF you are taking the Metra all over then you have a stations right below with no need of even going outside.
Which of my points would be best (bang for my buck) to trade for hotel stays? SPG, MR, UR, or AA (if applicable)? Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 25, 2014, 07:32:31 PM
Which of my points would be best (bang for my buck) to trade for hotel stays? SPG, MR, UR, or AA (if applicable)? Thanks.

SPG if you want to stay at the "W" or UR>Hyatt if you choose the stay at the hyatt. Look at my TR's on Hong Kong (in this thread) to read about the Hyatt Regency TST.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on June 25, 2014, 08:27:45 PM
SPG if you want to stay at the "W" or UR>Hyatt if you choose the stay at the hyatt. Look at my TR's on Hong Kong (in this thread) to read about the Hyatt Regency TST.

Yes I did already. Thanks. I just needed to figure out the best point utilization and if there was a way to book those rooms in points for cheaper than shown on their sites just like you do with the award flights. Haha oh and does SPG give bonus points for transferring to certain hotels or is that just for airlines?
Title: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 25, 2014, 08:31:19 PM
SPG doesn't transfer to hotels, it already is a hotel chain. And usually the rates up there for points are usually the cheapest. Depending where, sometimes hyatt would have cash&points. Call hyatt to see if its available and how much it would be
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 04, 2014, 04:50:54 AM
Anyone try out the new JCC Thu night cholent?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 09, 2014, 02:35:07 PM
How long can i be in HKG before needing a visa?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: lubaby on July 09, 2014, 02:50:09 PM
How long can i be in HKG before needing a visa?

http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/acs_hkvisa.html
Quote
U.S. Citizens visiting Hong Kong for not more than three months/90 days are not required to obtain visas. They must have a U.S. passport valid for at least six months and evidence of adequate funds for their stay and onward transportation. Those wishing to stay more than three months must obtain visas from a Chinese Embassy or Consulate. Visitors are not permitted to study or work (whether paid or not).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 10, 2014, 01:10:08 AM
http://hongkong.usconsulate.gov/acs_hkvisa.html
thanks
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jewdkoff on July 13, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
I'm planning a Asia trip for December and am trying to figure out how much time I need in Hong Kong. I have a 20hr+ layover scheduled but can do a stop-over if need be and spend another 2 days there. The whole trip is 2 weeks and will include 2 days in Japan and the rest of the time in Thailand. Is it worth spending 9~ days in Thailand and 3 in HKG or should I do 11 days in Thailand and 1 day in HKG?

We're very into beaches and outdoorsy stuff but my SO likes architecture as well.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 13, 2014, 05:15:57 PM
If it were me, I'd probably do 3 days in HKG (gives you time to do Macau, Kowloon, and HKI), 2 in NRT, and 9 in Thailand.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on July 13, 2014, 06:40:23 PM
If it were me, I'd probably do 3 days in HKG (gives you time to do Macau, Kowloon, and HKI), 2 in NRT, and 9 in Thailand.
Agreed!  Was just in HKG last week.  Haven't been since I was a child (British colony).  It's changed alot!  So much to do over there.  I felt 4 days wasn't even enough.  I'd love to go back.  IMHO, Macau was meh.  We just went for the historic sites and architecture.  It is not a Vegas replica, but maybe in less than a decade, it could be!  Lot's of potential there.  haha 
On another note, I would do Bangkok for 2-3 days.  Check out the main temples and other sites.  I would focus on the beach cities: Phuket, Ko Samui, Ko Pha Nga as there are many things to do there including relaxing with many Russians.  ;D
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jewdkoff on July 13, 2014, 06:48:21 PM
Agreed!  Was just in HKG last week.  Haven't been since I was a child (British colony).  It's changed alot!  So much to do over there.  I felt 4 days wasn't even enough.  I'd love to go back.  IMHO, Macau was meh.  We just went for the historic sites and architecture.  It is not a Vegas replica, but maybe in less than a decade, it could be!  Lot's of potential there.  haha 
On another note, I would do Bangkok for 2-3 days.  Check out the main temples and other sites.  I would focus on the beach cities: Phuket, Ko Samui, Ko Pha Nga as there are many things to do there including relaxing with many Russians.  ;D

Is HKG really expensive (like Japan)? The time is HKG would be split up with Friday and Shabbos and Sunday in HKG and then a 20hr layover after Thailand.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on July 13, 2014, 07:12:31 PM
Is HKG really expensive (like Japan)? The time is HKG would be split up with Friday and Shabbos and Sunday in HKG and then a 20hr layover after Thailand.
Depends.  I've never been to Japan either.  But, there are things in HKG depending on which restaurants you go to that are more than the US.  Transportation is cheap and so are the sites.  20 hrs really isn't enough IMO.  It is second in my book of best Asian cities (not including beach cities) to visit under Singapore. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2014, 07:13:49 PM
HKG is much cheaper than NRT.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on July 13, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
Not sure this was mentioned, but on CX duty free you can pick up airport tram passes and MTR passes.

Comes out a little cheaper then buying them at the station and you can use CX vouchers for it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on July 13, 2014, 08:00:16 PM
Not sure this was mentioned, but on CX duty free you can pick up airport tram passes and MTR passes.

Comes out a little cheaper then buying them at the station and you can use CX vouchers for it.
Cheaper than the 2-person deal of HKD $140 for airport tram pass and the Octopus default amount of HKD $150 per card?  We were there for 4 days so we opted for the Octopus card.  We were reimbursed the leftover balances less HKD$9 per card when we left. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 13, 2014, 11:48:00 PM
If it were me, I'd probably do 3 days in HKG (gives you time to do Macau, Kowloon, and HKI), 2 in NRT, and 9 in Thailand.
What is there to do in Hong Kong for 3 days? I can never stay there longer than a day. All there is to do in hk is shop. What is a tourist attraction in hk? I would eat, see the Ritz, eat again, shop and eat again. What else is there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 13, 2014, 11:50:13 PM

What is there to do in Hong Kong for 3 days? I can never stay there longer than a day. All there is to do in hk is shop. What is a tourist attraction in hk? I would eat, see the Ritz, eat again, shop and eat again. What else is there?

The peak, hong kong park, ocean park, macau, shop, eat, ferry rides, boat tours, just to name a few
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 13, 2014, 11:53:52 PM
The peak, hong kong park, ocean park, macau, shop, eat, ferry rides, boat tours, just to name a few
I am from LA. I am not going to hk to see nature or boat rides. Hk is a place to be wowed by its businesses and architecture during a quick trip.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on July 14, 2014, 02:33:50 AM
I am from LA. I am not going to hk to see nature or boat rides. Hk is a place to be wowed by its businesses and architecture during a quick trip.
I guess just Macau then.  I don't gamble but their architecture and history is great.  Colonized by the Chinese, then the Portuguese, then back to the Chinese again.  Pretty cool to see a fusion in their architectural styles.  Check out the casinos.  The City of Dreams is pretty nice.  Venetian does not compare to Vegas at all.  I'll give them a few more years to be a bit close to Vegas, but it will never be like it.  Oh, and the Macau Tower is pretty cool.  But, Macau is like a day and a half only.  I personally won't go any more than that.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 14, 2014, 02:51:11 AM
I guess just Macau then.  I don't gamble but their architecture and history is great.  Colonized by the Chinese, then the Portuguese, then back to the Chinese again.  Pretty cool to see a fusion in their architectural styles.  Check out the casinos.  The City of Dreams is pretty nice.  Venetian does not compare to Vegas at all.  I'll give them a few more years to be a bit close to Vegas, but it will never be like it.  Oh, and the Macau Tower is pretty cool.  But, Macau is like a day and a half only.  I personally won't go any more than that.
For about 1000hkd you can climb the tower.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 14, 2014, 07:45:16 AM
For about 1000hkd you can climb the tower.
or jump off (bungee of course)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 15, 2014, 09:02:13 PM
Which Hyatt in hkg is right over the train/subway and close to kosher food?

Not there shabbos.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 15, 2014, 09:51:39 PM
Which Hyatt in hkg is right over the train/subway and close to kosher food?

Not there shabbos.
Regency tst
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 15, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
Regency tst

+1.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 10:06:02 AM
Thanks. How do I get back and forth from there to macau
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
Thanks. How do I get back and forth from there to macau
Ferry.
But if you can splurge the W is worth it. Incredible hotel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 16, 2014, 10:18:22 AM
When would be the best time of year to see/do Hong Kong?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on July 16, 2014, 10:25:30 AM
Definitely not in the Summer. Just got back from there and it was sweltering HOT.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 16, 2014, 10:26:18 AM
When would be the best time of year to see/do Hong Kong?

I was there in October time and it was pretty nice.

Definitely not in the Summer. Just got back from there and it was sweltering HOT.

+1. I was there in May and would not do it again
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 16, 2014, 10:29:35 AM
I was there in October time and it was pretty nice.

+1. I was there in May and would not do it again
I figured not summer, I spent shabbos 2 weeks ago in Athens with the rabbi from there and he was moaning about it. When does the summer heat start?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 10:29:46 AM
Ferry.
But if you can splurge the W is worth it. Incredible hotel.
its HKG dont plan on being in hotel much. (i dont think)

How often do the ferries go? Also I havea diamond trial i just got approved last week.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on July 16, 2014, 10:31:33 AM
I figured not summer, I spent shabbos 2 weeks ago in Athens with the rabbi from there and he was moaning about it. When does the summer heat start?

Started probably back in May and probably won't cool off until October.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 10:48:24 AM
its HKG dont plan on being in hotel much. (i dont think)
Exactly what's so great, it's right on top of the Airport Express station and the bellhop will even check your luggage when you leave to your final destination.

And the rooftop infinity pool/hot tub on the ~75th floor is awesome.  As are the rooms.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 16, 2014, 11:07:54 AM
What is the ideal length of time to spend in Hong Kong and is it worth it to be there for shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 11:08:53 AM
Exactly what's so great, it's right on top of the Airport Express station and the bellhop will even check your luggage when you leave to your final destination.

And the rooftop infinity pool/hot tub on the ~75th floor is awesome.  As are the rooms.
At 20k a night or 299 a night, I have a feeling i will just go with hyatt at 12k a night (+ suite upgrades), esp bec i am not plat...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 11:16:35 AM
Exactly what's so great, it's right on top of the Airport Express station and the bellhop will even check your luggage when you leave to your final destination.

And the rooftop infinity pool/hot tub on the ~75th floor is awesome.  As are the rooms.
Or if you do not want to splurge, go to the St Regis in Shenzhen. 75th floor infinity pool is the first floor of the hotel. 76th floor are duplex suites. 96th floor is the lobby. 100th floor is a bar. Rooms cost about $250 or 12000 spg points a night. Rooms have iPads for room control. It controls the shades, room music, bathroom music, mood lights, TV and everything. Overall, one hell of an experience.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 11:18:42 AM
What is the ideal length of time to spend in Hong Kong and is it worth it to be there for shabbos?
I go to hk just for shabbos. Meoded has a full five star shabbos meal with sushi and meats and all. Quite pricy though...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 11:26:34 AM
Or if you do not want to splurge, go to the St Regis in Shenzhen. 75th floor infinity pool is the first floor of the hotel. 76th floor are duplex suites. 96th floor is the lobby. 100th floor is a bar. Rooms cost about $250 or 12000 spg points a night. Rooms have iPads for room control. It controls the shades, room music, bathroom music, mood lights, TV and everything. Overall, one hell of an experience.
W HKG used to cost 12K (I stayed there with cash and points when it was 12K and when C&P was still a bargain).
But I bet you can still pull off $250 with the right corp code.  And worth every cent IMHO.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 16, 2014, 11:32:54 AM
I go to hk just for shabbos. Meoded has a full five star shabbos meal with sushi and meats and all. Quite pricy though...
For a first time experience When I don't know if I will make it back there should I put a weekend in there? Is shabbos there an experience?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 11:37:08 AM
W HKG used to cost 12K (I stayed there with cash and points when it was 12K and when C&P was still a bargain).
But I bet you can still pull off $250 with the right corp code.  And worth every cent IMHO.
For $250 it sounds like a good value for money. If you really want to splurge in hk though, try the Upper House (I never stayed there) #2 hotel IN THE WORLD by TripAdvisor. ($600) The Ritz in Hk is probably the nicest Ritz in the world and if you have a friend's and family rate you can get it for cheaper than the hr tst.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 11:42:19 AM
For a first time experience When I don't know if I will make it back there should I put a weekend in there? Is shabbos there an experience?
It is good for business networking and there is really good food. If you are interested in nightlife, motzi shabbos is a must. Note: shabbos meals in hk are very expensive and hotels on the weekends can be double the price. Look at your schedule and see what is best for you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
Note: shabbos meals in hk are very expensive
Free (well, donations accepted) at Chabad of HKI and awesome food with a great local crowd.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 16, 2014, 11:45:22 AM


Note: shabbos meals in hk are very expensive

What's considered expensive?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 16, 2014, 11:47:17 AM
Free (well, donations accepted) at Chabad of HKI and awesome food with a great local crowd.
I always give at least the suggested amount, chances are if you are going to Hong Kong on vacation you don't need the handout.
I personally would feel guilty not paying
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 11:52:47 AM

What's considered expensive?
You can go to Chabad for free, but Meoded is what everyone raves about. Even in Chabad, you should probably give a minimum of $50 donation for shabbos. Meoded was $150 dollars last time I was there. My suggestion, go to meoded for Friday night and Chabad for shabbos day. Meoded has better food at night and Chabad has, well, Chabad. Chabad is always fun and always feels great. And itzik is sweet.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 11:58:36 AM
You can go to Chabad for free, but Meoded is what everyone raves about. Even in Chabad, you should probably give a minimum of $50 donation for shabbos. Meoded was $150 dollars last time I was there. My suggestion, go to meoded for Friday night and Chabad for shabbos day. Meoded has better food at night and Chabad has, well, Chabad. Chabad is always fun and always feels great. And itzik is sweet.
Eh, I don't think anyone is walking from Chabad of HKI to Meoded...
Have you been to Chabad of HKI?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 12:03:57 PM
Eh, I don't think anyone is walking from Chabad of HKI to Meoded...
Have you been to Chabad of HKI?
I have not. I know a few people that go to Meoded at night and Chabad by day. Usually for the people, not the food. Next time you go to hk, try meoded on Friday night.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 12:09:08 PM
I have not. I know a few people that go to Meoded at night and Chabad by day. Usually for the people, not the food. Next time you go to hk, try meoded on Friday night.
Nobody is walking from Meoded to Chabad of HKI.  They probably go to Chabad of Kowloon.

Chabad of HKI with Rabbi Avtzon is an amazing experience.  I left very full of inspiration and excellent food. Plus the well-connected and very interesting local crowd seems to live on HKI.

I can go to the Moeded restaurant for the good food after shabbos...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 12:16:29 PM
Nobody is walking from Meoded to Chabad of HKI.  They probably go to Chabad of Kowloon.

Chabad of HKI with Rabbi Avtzon is an amazing experience.  I left very full of inspiration and excellent food. Plus the well-connected and very interesting local crowd seems to live on HKI.

I can go to the Moeded restaurant for the good food after shabbos...
Let's not get into hk politics.  ;) Every kosher shul in hk has a great Shabbos. If you are in Kowloon, try meoded for a Friday night. If you are elsewhere, they are all amazing. The point is, shabbos in hk can be great.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 12:25:51 PM
How did I get into politics?

All I said was that I had an incredible time on HKI and that nobody is walking from Kowloon to HKI.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 12:30:13 PM
How did I get into politics?

All I said was that I had an incredible time on HKI and that nobody is walking from Kowloon to HKI.
I was talking about myself. To argue one place better than another, it would lead to a conversation about politics. So I concluded it with the above statement saying something the the effect of: go to the place closest to your hotel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 12:31:37 PM
I stayed on HKI for shabbos and then moved to the W Kowloon afterward.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
I stayed on HKI for shabbos and then moved to the W Kowloon afterward.
Which hotel in HKI?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2014, 12:41:39 PM
since when was there a suggested donation at KZ?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 12:43:55 PM
since when was there a suggested donation at KZ?
There is a sign saying that it is not just suggested. The sign is up during some seasons.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 16, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
The Shangri  La is much nicer than the W
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
The Shangri  La is much nicer than the W
More expensive.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 16, 2014, 12:48:28 PM
More expensive.
Dont think so with the KZ rate
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 01:08:19 PM
Which hotel in HKI?
Conrad.
Or if you want to be right next door, http://www.twomr.com.hk/
Garden View is also next door, but that should be avoided at all costs.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 01:25:07 PM
Dont think so with the KZ rate
Thanks.

Is the W or shang ri la near kosher?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 16, 2014, 01:25:49 PM
Shangri La is literally next door to KZ. No better hotel/kosher combination in the world
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 16, 2014, 01:34:07 PM
Shangri La is literally next door to KZ. No better hotel/kosher combination in the world

I've stayed in both (in regular rooms and suites).

I think the W is def nicer. And can't beat the convenience of the W.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 16, 2014, 01:35:51 PM
I've stayed in both.

I think the W is def nicer.
So have I. The Harbour View rooms at the Shangri La are far superior to the W, IMO. Shanrgi La standard rooms (courtyard view), suck.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
Is it still worth it to stay at the W even though I dont have status?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 16, 2014, 01:44:37 PM
So have I. The Harbour View rooms at the Shangri La are far superior to the W, IMO. Shanrgi La standard rooms (courtyard view), suck.

Harbor view rooms at Shangri-La definitely have a better view than do the rooms at W, or at least the views that I've had of the harbor while at the W.

But on the whole, as I edited above, the design of the hotel and convenience of transportation to the airport win for me.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 16, 2014, 01:45:52 PM
Free (well, donations accepted) at Chabad of HKI and awesome food with a great local crowd.

+1.. For the Kowloon side. Been there twice already and would go back again.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 16, 2014, 01:46:20 PM
Shangri La is literally next door to KZ. No better hotel/kosher combination in the world

I don't know if I missed an edit, or you post was always as above, but I'd agree for hotel/kosher/shabbas, the W cannot beat Shangri-La/KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Emkay on July 16, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
Whats KZ?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on July 16, 2014, 02:02:44 PM
I would argue that the only convince of the W is being above the airport express, but as far as activities and kosher food the SL wins by far.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 02:05:11 PM
Is it still worth it to stay at the W even though I dont have status?
Have a plat book for you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 16, 2014, 02:05:55 PM
Whats KZ?

The shul in Kowloon
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 02:10:54 PM
Have a plat book for you.
Is the 20k/300$ a night worth it to book thru someones plat accnt. I can go thru a third part website and get it maybe for 210.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on July 16, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
Is the 20k/300$ a night worth it to book thru someones plat accnt. I can go thru a third part website and get it maybe for 210.
It depends how much you value a suite, which you probably will get with plat.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2014, 02:37:13 PM
There is a sign saying that it is not just suggested. The sign is up during some seasons.
interesting, when i was there there was no such sign. but they did solicit heavily on shabbos. iirc, at least 10 people pledged $500 each for the segula
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 02:49:08 PM
It depends how much you value a suite, which you probably will get with plat.
like I said, I am not planning in sitting in my hotel room much.

Also is the w near kosher? I know the Hyatt and Shangri LA is
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on July 16, 2014, 02:57:15 PM
like I said, I am not planning in sitting in my hotel room much.

Also is the w near kosher? I know the Hyatt and Shangri LA is
Nope. Everything is a 5 min/$7 car ride away
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2014, 03:01:35 PM
Nope. Everything is a 5 min/$7 car ride away
They have a free shuttle every 30 minutes to/from Tsim Sha Tsui.
And there's MTR to HKI, Airport express to HKG, and you can walk to the Macau Ferry.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on July 16, 2014, 03:05:24 PM
They have a free shuttle every 30 minutes to/from Tsim Sha Tsui.
And there's MTR to HKI, Airport express to HKG, and you can walk to the Macau Ferry.
True, but A cab is a lot more convenient and wayy easier with a kid.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on July 16, 2014, 03:15:50 PM
Quote frpm KZ website (unless they failed to update their website.....)
" Shabbat Meals are free of charge; donations and sponsorships are always welcome."
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 04:07:53 PM
True, but A cab is a lot more convenient and wayy easier with a kid.
Who brings kids to HKG :)

SOunds like i should go with the W. wow what a turnaround, i was on chase UR website to transfer to hyatt.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 16, 2014, 05:24:34 PM
But on the whole, as I edited above, the design of the hotel and convenience of transportation to the airport win for me.
Not for me :). Would never stay again at the W. SL is an option for me.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 16, 2014, 05:36:20 PM
More expensive.
Actually much cheaper.

Harbor View room from SL website is 268
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on July 16, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
Not for me :). Would never stay again at the W. SL is an option for me.
IMO, it makes a difference how long you are staying in HKG. If its a day or so then I can hear the convenience of the W and since you are probably going out once or twice a cab is no biggie. But, if you are there for more than that it comes a pain every time you want to leave the hotel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 07:03:42 PM
The shul in Kowloon
Kehilat Zion with Rabbi Meoded
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 16, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
KZ definitely needs to update their website
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 16, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
KZ definitely needs to update their website
Bump
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 16, 2014, 07:38:10 PM
Bump

Yes? How can I help?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 17, 2014, 04:17:33 AM
Can someone please comment on KZ shabbes pricing? People wrote about a fixed price and the website and past visits show this not to be true
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 17, 2014, 05:00:51 AM
Can someone please comment on KZ shabbes pricing? People wrote about a fixed price and the website and past visits show this not to be true
During peak seasons he has a sign up with the price of $150. When it is less busy, I do not think there is a sign. In my opinion, if you go to any shul in a remote area, you should be generous especially if you had a good experience. Most chabad houses or shuls in China expect $50-100 for a shabbat but they do not enforce it. Most places (including kz) has a student price or will even let you eat there free if you explain a difficult situation. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 17, 2014, 05:28:31 AM
I will donate and did in the past, but I just want to know if there is a fixed price now. Will they be very full in august?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 17, 2014, 05:38:10 AM
I will donate and did in the past, but I just want to know if there is a fixed price now. Will they be very full in august?
He is really busy only during the biggest shows like jewelry and electronics.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 17, 2014, 08:36:40 AM
Can someone please comment on KZ shabbes pricing? People wrote about a fixed price and the website and past visits show this not to be true

I was there in May, definitely wasn't crowded. One the website it says free breakfast if you come to davening, they charge for it now, and for Shabbat Meals they also charged. I think it was around $150 or something. I was happy to pay for breakfast and would have done it anyways. Shabbat I ate by Chabad.

They just need to update their website, thats all.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on July 17, 2014, 10:29:44 AM
KZ only charges $150 for meals only if there is an event, otherwise it's free and the breakfast is $100HKD.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 17, 2014, 10:44:57 AM
KZ only charges $150 for meals only if there is an event, otherwise it's free and the breakfast is $100HKD.
When we're you last there? I just emailed the rabbi and asked him. I hope he replies.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 17, 2014, 11:33:54 AM
When we're you last there? I just emailed the rabbi and asked him. I hope he replies.

Was there in May
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 17, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
I really should do the SL but I am diamond with Hyatt for another 2 months. 15k for a suit.

lets say chase is 1.6 thats $240 for a suit
i can get the SL Deluxe Side Harbour View Room for $210

Side q: how do i see how much C+P is on hyat.com?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 17, 2014, 01:51:02 PM
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Frunningwithmiles.boardingarea.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F04%2FScreen-Shot-2014-04-15-at-2.37.04-PM.png&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Frunningwithmiles.boardingarea.com%2Fever-worth-buy-hotel-points%2F&h=426&w=902&tbnid=1b0YxNNofpZhhM%3A&zoom=1&docid=fEVjf5sdjSEIBM&ei=9AzIU-GyKoeH8QHUmYD4Cg&tbm=isch&ved=0CB4QMygBMAE&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=776&page=1&start=0&ndsp=35
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on July 17, 2014, 02:14:09 PM
When we're you last there? I just emailed the rabbi and asked him. I hope he replies.

Just came back from there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 17, 2014, 02:20:52 PM
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Frunningwithmiles.boardingarea.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F04%2FScreen-Shot-2014-04-15-at-2.37.04-PM.png&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Frunningwithmiles.boardingarea.com%2Fever-worth-buy-hotel-points%2F&h=426&w=902&tbnid=1b0YxNNofpZhhM%3A&zoom=1&docid=fEVjf5sdjSEIBM&ei=9AzIU-GyKoeH8QHUmYD4Cg&tbm=isch&ved=0CB4QMygBMAE&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=776&page=1&start=0&ndsp=35
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 17, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
You don't have to pay to eat at KZ. But pretty low to spend all the money flying there, staying in a 5 star hotel and eating from tzedaka.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 17, 2014, 03:29:27 PM
You don't have to pay to eat at KZ. But pretty low to spend all the money flying there, staying in a 5 star hotel and eating from tzedaka.

You sure.. They made me pay the other day. But I would have paid non the less.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 17, 2014, 03:30:19 PM
You sure.. They made me pay the other day. But I would have paid non the less.
They might ask but if show up on shabbos it definitely won't be too much of an issue
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 17, 2014, 03:57:52 PM
You don't have to pay to eat at KZ. But pretty low to spend all the money flying there, staying in a 5 star hotel and eating from tzedaka.
depends on the situation
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 17, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
Dear XXXXX,

Welcome to Kehilat Zion.

For shabbat, no charge for the meals and donation is always welcomed.

For your accommodation, you can contact Miss XXXX from Shangri-la Kowloon Hotel to get a member-discount: XXXXX@XXXX.com

We dont have any student price or peak seasons price.

Shalom Shabbat.
 
Best regards,
Tracey
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on July 18, 2014, 07:21:59 AM


For your accommodation, you can contact Miss XXXX from Shangri-la Kowloon Hotel to get a member-discount: XXXXX@XXXX.com

Can you disclose who miss xxxx is and her email address please so people going this summer can take advantage of getting the member discount as well? Thanks so much in advance!!!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 18, 2014, 09:44:59 AM
Can you disclose who miss xxxx is and her email address please so people going this summer can take advantage of getting the member discount as well? Thanks so much in advance!!!!
This is the world Wide Web. I do not know if it is appropriate to post an email address. PM me for the address.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 18, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
This is the world Wide Web. I do not know if it is appropriate to post an email address. PM me for the address.
I just went onto SL website and clicked contact us they emailed me back the next day :)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: monkey123 on July 20, 2014, 05:46:47 AM

Going to Hong Kong from Wednesday-Sunday

Do I stay in Hong Kong or Kowloon?

What Hotels?

Also anything specific that I should not miss.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 20, 2014, 06:29:36 AM

Going to Hong Kong from Wednesday-Sunday

Do I stay in Hong Kong or Kowloon?

What Hotels?

Also anything specific that I should not miss.

Read through the wiki and thread. Good luck. Enjoy
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 20, 2014, 06:44:49 AM
Going to Hong Kong from Wednesday-Sunday

Do I stay in Hong Kong or Kowloon?

What Hotels?

Also anything specific that I should not miss.
Do you have status in any hotels? What price range?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: monkey123 on July 20, 2014, 06:57:52 AM
Going to Hong Kong from Wednesday-Sunday

Do I stay in Hong Kong or Kowloon?

What Hotels?

Also anything specific that I should not miss.




I'm SPG gold and hyatt diamond
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 20, 2014, 07:41:40 AM



I'm SPG gold and hyatt diamond
Try to find a good deal in the Hyatt Regency tst and keep in mind it is a category 4 Hyatt. There is KZ and Chabad nearby.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 20, 2014, 08:38:26 AM
Hyatt TST isn't shabbos friendly.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 20, 2014, 08:45:49 AM
Hyatt TST isn't shabbos friendly.
It is good for the rest of the trip. And some are OK with it for shabbos.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 21, 2014, 09:04:33 PM
Does a suit upgrade work with an ann night? Hyatt TST is cat 4 so u can use an ann night there.

Also they are saying there is no suit upgrades avail, even though i am a Diamond they will put it in the notes, but they cant promise it now.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 21, 2014, 09:32:05 PM
Does a suit upgrade work with an ann night? Hyatt TST is cat 4 so u can use an ann night there.

Also they are saying there is no suit upgrades avail, even though i am a Diamond they will put it in the notes, but they cant promise it now.
I think suites are only for c&p or full cash nights.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 21, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
Does a suit upgrade work with an ann night? Hyatt TST is cat 4 so u can use an ann night there.

Also they are saying there is no suit upgrades avail, even though i am a Diamond they will put it in the notes, but they cant promise it now.
The grand hyatt macau is also a category 4. You do not even need a suite there as the rooms are HUGE.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 21, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
is there a way to get from macau to the airport? flights at 9am ex-hkg

eta: i emailed them
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 21, 2014, 09:46:56 PM
If you have a 9 am flight, you should be in HK.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 21, 2014, 09:52:33 PM
I think suites are only for c&p or full cash nights.

Correct.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 21, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
is there a way to get from macau to the airport? flights at 9am ex-hkg

eta: i emailed them

By ferry

http://www.turbojet.com.hk/en/routing-sailing-schedule/hk-airport-macau/sailing-schedule-fares.aspx
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 22, 2014, 06:43:46 AM
I used a diamond suite upgrade, but on CP booking. Have a connecting room for the kids to the suite. I paid 400 HKD extra a night for harbour view suite. They only have a few of them, as a suite, so I didnt want to take a chance
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 22, 2014, 06:57:54 AM
I used a diamond suite upgrade, but on CP booking. Have a connecting room for the kids to the suite. I paid 400 HKD extra a night for harbour view suite. They only have a few of them, as a suite, so I didnt want to take a chance
GH or HR? I just booked the GH with C&P and diamond suite upgrade for October and the suite they offered me was the harbor view suite. I am about to email the GM to ask for a better room.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on July 22, 2014, 07:18:06 AM
Anyone stay at the ic grand stanford that can advise what to do about shabbos (which doors to go in and out of, are there sensors in the room, etc). Any info on this would be greatly appreciated!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 22, 2014, 08:29:25 AM
HR, I prefer Kowloon
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 22, 2014, 08:31:29 AM
HR, I prefer Kowloon
I prefer Kowloon as well, but I booked my stay for a show and the GH is in the same building as the exhibition center.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 22, 2014, 09:58:29 AM
GH or HR? I just booked the GH with C&P and diamond suite upgrade for October and the suite they offered me was the harbor view suite. I am about to email the GM to ask for a better room.
I stayed at the GH in the same room. Was nice, but not sure if worth the extra points/money for that room. If you want/need to be on HKI, stay at the GH, if not, go to the HR.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 22, 2014, 10:11:38 AM
I stayed at the GH in the same room. Was nice, but not sure if worth the extra points/money for that room. If you want/need to be on HKI, stay at the GH, if not, go to the HR.
I used a free suite upgrade. I emailed the GM asking for a better room, so hopefully I will get the 90 meter executive suite.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 22, 2014, 05:50:00 PM
I asked for upgrades using my c+p. They said they can't confirm. :(
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on July 27, 2014, 05:57:35 PM
Anybody have experience with using hyatt corp codes?   Or suggestions for that matter.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on July 28, 2014, 10:56:28 AM
Anybody have experience with using hyatt corp codes?   Or suggestions for that matter.
bump.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 28, 2014, 11:03:22 AM
bump.
For hk you will need to print a corporate id to be safe. If you need codes, pm me.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 28, 2014, 11:04:06 AM
For hk you will need to print a corporate id to be safe. If you need codes, pm me.
HKGH $260
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: monkey123 on July 31, 2014, 05:38:06 AM
Looking for Hotel in Kowloon for SHABBOS?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 31, 2014, 06:13:54 AM
Looking for Hotel in Kowloon for SHABBOS?
Speak to KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: monkey123 on August 03, 2014, 11:08:23 AM
Anyone stay in the Park Hotel in Kowloon?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on August 03, 2014, 10:30:35 PM
I highly recommend the Sheraton they are extremely Shabbos friendly and will accommodate all your needs.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 03, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
I highly recommend the Sheraton they are extremely Shabbos friendly and will accommodate all your needs.

Do you need to use a elevator to get to the rooms or are there rooms on low floors??
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on August 03, 2014, 10:38:59 PM
There are rooms on lower floors which you can use the stairs but when you check in let them know you're sabbath observant so that they will arrange to leave a staircase open for your use
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 03, 2014, 10:48:15 PM
I highly recommend the Sheraton they are extremely Shabbos friendly and will accommodate all your needs.
Whats the advantage over the Shangri La?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on August 03, 2014, 10:50:12 PM
It is literally right next to KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 03, 2014, 10:55:47 PM
It is literally right next to KZ.

about 30 seconds from entrance to entrance.. Great for those terrible hot or rainy seasons
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 03, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
It is literally right next to KZ.
Corrected myself
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 03, 2014, 11:20:51 PM
Corrected myself
So is the Shangri-La... I think the Shangri-La is a much nicer hotel. Only go to the Sheraton if you have SPG plat. The Sheraton is getting old and unfresh. Rooms are pretty small too.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 04, 2014, 07:48:59 AM
the sheraton is fine for shabbos. not nearly as close as shangri la, though. i emailed them beforehand requesting a suite on a low floor and they accommodated me
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: monkey123 on August 05, 2014, 12:27:39 PM
What the best way to get from Airport to Hong Kong or Kowloon?

Is there a direct train from airport?
Or how much is a Cab?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on August 05, 2014, 12:58:28 PM
What the best way to get from Airport to Hong Kong or Kowloon?

Is there a direct train from airport?
Or how much is a Cab?
There is a train right from the airport.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 05, 2014, 01:16:00 PM
There is a train right from the airport.
isnt there a stop directly under the Hyatt?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 05, 2014, 01:24:08 PM
isnt there a stop directly under the Hyatt?
i think youre confusing it with the w
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on August 05, 2014, 04:10:04 PM
The reg train goes under the Hyatt. See link http://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/tourist/index.php (http://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/tourist/index.php)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on August 05, 2014, 07:27:10 PM
The reg train goes under the Hyatt. See link http://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/tourist/index.php (http://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/tourist/index.php)
But there is a direct airport train to Kowloon station (W).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on August 05, 2014, 07:51:00 PM
But there is a direct airport train to Kowloon station (W).

Yes, the airport express. If you plan to use the regular MTR as well then look into getting an Airport Express Travel Pass which would be 3 day unlimited MTR use plus R/T on the airport express.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: azinzy on August 05, 2014, 09:38:11 PM

Hyatt TST isn't shabbos friendly.

What about it isn't shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 05, 2014, 09:56:23 PM

What about it isn't shabbos friendly?

Elevators
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: azinzy on August 05, 2014, 09:57:27 PM

Elevators

There is no stairs in hotel?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 05, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
There is no stairs in hotel?

Not when the hotel rooms start on the 9th floor or even higher
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: azinzy on August 05, 2014, 10:41:26 PM
That's interesting, How is that legal not to have a staircase in a public building?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 05, 2014, 10:57:23 PM

That's interesting, How is that legal not to have a staircase in a public building?

Sorry, didnt read your other post correctly.

Im sure they do, but do you really wanna walk up 9+ flights
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on August 05, 2014, 11:09:38 PM
I was told from somone who was staying at the Hyatt TST for Shabbos when I was in HK that they wouldn't allow him to use the stairs.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on August 06, 2014, 11:26:38 PM
I was told from somone who was staying at the Hyatt TST for Shabbos when I was in HK that they wouldn't allow him to use the stairs.
I have spoken to hyatt TST and explained to them about Shabbos. They said it should not be a problem using stairs. They are sending me written confirmation that I can use the stairs Friday and Saturday.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ajs625 on August 07, 2014, 07:38:50 AM
GL, let us know after your travel if it worked.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on August 07, 2014, 07:59:24 AM
The letter:

Greetings from Hyatt Regency Hong Kong, Tsim Sha Tsui.
 
Please kindly note that you may choose to use the stairs instead of elevator.
 
We check that Regency Suite King under the booking # xxxxxx is located on 10-17 floor.
 
Your request for low floor has been well noted. However this request is based upon availability. Please be assured we will try our utmost to satisfy you.
 
Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
 
Best Regards,
 
Jill Chen  陈琦
Reservation Sales Associate
 
HYATT REGENCY HONG KONG, TSIM SHA TSUI
18 Hanoi Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon, Hong Kong
T: +852 3721 1333 F: +852 3051 2838 E: reservation.honhr@hyatt.com
hongkong.tsimshatsui.hyatt.com
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
I guess things have changed in 4 years,
I have a special corporate rate for the Hyatt Regency in Kowloon. Not the best price ever but still cheaper.
Keep in mind that if you would like to use stairs (and not trust on the Heter to go with a goy in the elevator) Hyatt is out of the question. It's a brand new building and as much as I beg the GM - he wouldn't let our guests to use the stairs.

I have spoken to hyatt TST and explained to them about Shabbos. They said it should not be a problem using stairs. They are sending me written confirmation that I can use the stairs Friday and Saturday.
Did you ask if there are sensored lights in the stairwell?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 07, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
A hotel once tried that with me and without making demands etc i just respectfully told them that i would be spending the night in the lobby due to my religious issue of using the elevator on the sabbath. the stairs were opened in no time
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 07, 2014, 11:55:45 AM
A hotel once tried that with me and without making demands etc i just respectfully told them that i would be spending the night in the lobby due to my religious issue of using the elevator on the sabbath. the stairs were opened in no time
Your post made me feel good.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 07, 2014, 12:20:36 PM
A hotel once tried that with me and without making demands etc i just respectfully told them that i would be spending the night in the lobby due to my religious issue of using the elevator on the sabbath. the stairs were opened in no time

I once had a experience where the AC in the room wasn't working and they had no other room, I slept in the lobby, after a few minutes they asked if they should turn off the lights which they did and they even gave me a pillow and blanket.. Twas a great experience  and a great sleep lol..

This was not in HKG, just saying.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on August 07, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
I guess things have changed in 4 years, Did you ask if there are sensored lights in the stairwell?
I emailed waiting for a response.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 07, 2014, 01:08:43 PM
I once had a experience where the AC in the room wasn't working and they had no other room, I slept in the lobby, after a few minutes they asked if they should turn off the lights which they did and they even gave me a pillow and blanket.. Twas a great experience  and a great sleep lol..

This was not in HKG, just saying.
probably wasnt a high end hotel?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 07, 2014, 02:11:25 PM
probably wasnt a high end hotel?

Nope.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 09, 2014, 10:39:06 PM
If in recall correctly Dan once told chuck to call before hand when in hkg cx lounge for kosher food. Is that correct? Or something along those lines?%
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 09, 2014, 11:07:45 PM
If in recall correctly Dan once told chuck to call before hand when in hkg cx lounge for kosher food. Is that correct? Or something along those lines?%
Yes, he told me .. let me see if I can find the message

Here you go - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17387.msg814436#msg814436

You will love it.
Did you order kosher food in the CX lounge?
Call 'em now,
Wing +852-2747-7972
Pier +852-2747-3939
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2014, 01:17:13 AM
Yes, he told me .. let me see if I can find the message

Here you go - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17387.msg814436#msg814436

thanks. Any way to call from america?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 10, 2014, 01:18:15 AM
thanks. Any way to call from america?

Skype?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2014, 01:19:37 AM
Thanks will try.

How long in advance do u need to call.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 10, 2014, 01:24:08 AM
Thanks will try.

How long in advance do u need to call.

A few posts after that I was on the before departure and he said I can still call so probable anytime I am guessing
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 10, 2014, 01:28:03 AM
A few posts after that I was on the before departure and he said I can still call so probable anytime I am guessing
thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 12, 2014, 02:26:35 AM
One night in hk... Which hotel should I take?
W Hong Kong (no spg status) $230
Ritz-Carlton (Silver)  $400
Upper House $450 (#2 hotel in the world by TripAdvisor)
Peninsula (Rolls-Royce) $500
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 12, 2014, 04:26:17 AM
Where are you getting this Upper House rate???
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 12, 2014, 04:31:22 AM
Where are you getting this Upper House rate???
$396 before taxes via ctrip app.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 12, 2014, 04:34:41 AM
I would definitely do that
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 12, 2014, 04:41:11 AM
I would definitely do that
I just emailed them...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 13, 2014, 04:31:49 AM
I just emailed them...
They price matched ctrip and upgraded me. Total value for $900 for $440
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 13, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
One night in hk... Which hotel should I take?
W Hong Kong (no spg status) $230
Ritz-Carlton (Silver)  $400
Upper House $450 (#2 hotel in the world by TripAdvisor)
Peninsula (Rolls-Royce) $500


I'd go with the Ritz-Carlton, though it depends on the kind of style you prefer

The Upper House is nice, but TripAdvisor rankings are worthless
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 13, 2014, 09:20:41 AM
I'd go with the Ritz-Carlton, though it depends on the kind of style you prefer

The Upper House is nice, but TripAdvisor rankings are worthless
Ill do the Ritz-Carlton eventually...  I might sign up for the Ritz cc and get 140k points, enough for two nights.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on August 15, 2014, 06:16:02 AM
Check out the WIKI i made about Shenzhen. If you go to HK for a week and have a Chinese visa, you should definitely go to Shenzhen.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=44243.0
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on August 17, 2014, 01:22:34 AM
Yes, he told me .. let me see if I can find the message

Here you go - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=17387.msg814436#msg814436

I'm flying business so I have no access to the first class lounge. They said I can't order in food. :(
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on August 23, 2014, 11:35:00 PM
I guess things have changed in 4 years, Did you ask if there are sensored lights in the stairwell?
Ok my bro just finished Shabbos there this past week. Basically with the letter saying he can use the stairs they still told him he can't. So he told them he's booking a different hotel for Shabbos. They said wait, will call the room soon. After an hour they said that they will have a security guard transport him up and down the stairs to his room whenever he needs it. The lights he said he doesn't think are automatic but he couldn't really tell since the guard was turning them on. He's not sure if they maybe just get brighter, as oppose to fully on, when you use them.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on September 22, 2014, 03:52:57 AM
I just booked a price mistake in HK that I found. 100% perfect hotel in the perfect location for the exact date I needed!!! It seems to be gone now, but I booked the Intercontinental GS on the 20th of OCT for $59 inclusive of fees. Search around, you may be able to find something else. ctrip.com

If you guys find anything, please keep it off other threads and DDMS.

Update: The price seems to be $500+ now, but I got 5 rooms. I got an email saying that the payment was processed and booking is confirmed. Now I just have top wait and see.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on September 28, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
I just booked a price mistake in HK that I found. 100% perfect hotel in the perfect location for the exact date I needed!!! It seems to be gone now, but I booked the Intercontinental GS on the 20th of OCT for $59 inclusive of fees. Search around, you may be able to find something else. ctrip.com

If you guys find anything, please keep it off other threads and DDMS.

Update: The price seems to be $500+ now, but I got 5 rooms. I got an email saying that the payment was processed and booking is confirmed. Now I just have top wait and see.
NICE
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on October 06, 2014, 09:40:16 AM
Are there any lounges in the HKG airport before security that I can visit using a United club pass I'll buy from DDF? I will be visiting a trade show in the AWE which is right next to the airport, and it might be nice to have some meetings there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 06, 2014, 09:46:26 AM
No
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on October 06, 2014, 09:53:54 AM
No
How about the Plaza Premium Lounge? It is before security. I think a Diners card can get me in, can a united card? There is also a Cathay "arrivals" lounge, how can I get access to that?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on November 03, 2014, 04:31:42 PM
Anybody know any alt hotels in Macau aside from GH Macau in Venetian that I could get with points?  GH there is completely booked for the Pacquiao fight that weekend.  I'd appreciate the help.  TIA
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on November 03, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
Found Sheraton Macao Hotel, Cotai Central for 10k SPG per night which is a 12 minute walk to Venetian or 4 min by car.  No option to do cash and points.  Anyone else know if there are other alts?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 03, 2014, 10:25:57 PM
What's the most efficient way to get from HKG to the JCC?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 03, 2014, 10:51:14 PM
Probably airport express HKI then a cab to JCC.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on November 03, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
Probably airport express HKI then a cab to JCC.
+1
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on November 04, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Arriving in HKG 11/20 at 8:05pm.  :/  Staying in HK until 11/22. I feel that it'd be a waste to get an award night if we won't get there until 10pm ish. Any advise?
Also, for 11/21-22 stay: HG TST for 21k, GH for 25k, or something else? SPG is depleted for Macau so all I have to work with are MR and UR. Been to TST already and loved it, but wanted to get everyone's thoughts.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on November 04, 2014, 11:48:09 PM
Arriving in HKG 11/20 at 8:05pm.  :/  Staying in HK until 11/22. I feel that it'd be a waste to get an award night if we won't get there until 10pm ish. Any advise?
Also, for 11/21-22 stay: HG TST for 21k, GH for 25k, or something else? SPG is depleted for Macau so all I have to work with are MR and UR. Been to TST already and loved it, but wanted to get everyone's thoughts.
HG TST? What is that? Why don't you just stay at the HR tst for 15k. If there is no available rooms on the site, call Hyatt reservations hotline.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on November 04, 2014, 11:50:12 PM

HG TST? What is that? Why don't you just stay at the HR tst for 15k. If there is no available rooms on the site, call Hyatt reservations hotline.
Typo. 15k not available. Only 21k now. Called hyatt already. Unless you know something that I don't.... I'm only a bottom tiered individual.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on November 05, 2014, 12:06:07 AM
Typo. 15k not available. Only 21k now. Called hyatt already. Unless you know something that I don't.... I'm only a bottom tiered individual.
Hyatt.com has 15k for 21-22
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 12:08:57 AM
Who has better food JCC or KZ?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on November 05, 2014, 12:23:30 AM
Who has better food JCC or KZ?
During the week, they are about equal, on Shabbat, KZ is the best.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on November 05, 2014, 12:31:30 AM
Hyatt.com has 15k for 21-22
If you click on the hotel, it will only show 21k.   :-[  The standard rooms are taken.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on November 05, 2014, 12:38:25 AM
If you click on the hotel, it will only show 21k.   :-[  The standard rooms are taken.
I just checked again.... November 21-22 king room is available and 15k is available. I am searching on my mobile phone with the full site. My account is not logged in. I can't upload the screenshot, file size is too big.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: princea143 on November 05, 2014, 01:13:38 AM
I just checked again.... November 21-22 king room is available and 15k is available. I am searching on my mobile phone with the full site. My account is not logged in. I can't upload the screenshot, file size is too big.
Thank goodness!  I just booked 21-22.  Thanks for taking a look again.  It really wasn't on there.  Someone must have canceled or had held it or whatever else.  I have it now.  So, the only issue is: what do I do the 20th?  Where do I go? haha
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 05, 2014, 01:12:27 PM
Who has better food JCC or KZ?
Shabbos meals or weekday restaurant?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 01:17:10 PM
Who has better food JCC or KZ?
You can get diary at JCC...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2014, 01:18:55 PM
You can get diary at JCC...
Barely edible.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
Barely edible.
After not having any diary for ~ a week, it was a welcome change of pace.

Though i would not recommend sitting down to eat there if any pool activities are going on.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 05, 2014, 01:34:52 PM
You can get dairy at JCC...
Is the dairy place reopened at the JCC-when we were there in August they were closed for renovations and said that would be for the next while-they only had the meat rest/Sunday buffet?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 02:15:09 PM
Is the dairy place reopened at the JCC-when we were there in August they were closed for renovations and said that would be for the next while-they only had the meat rest/Sunday buffet?
Not sure, i was there in April.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 03:11:36 PM
Barely edible.
Darn, I need a place in HKI for breakfast, I am planning on doing lunch in KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 05, 2014, 03:21:26 PM
I need a place in HKI for breakfast
Bring cereal?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
Bring cereal?
Was hoping after a 15+ hour flight to have a nice meal.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 05, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
Was hoping after a 15+ hour flight to have a nice meal.
kz offers free breakfast (pareve) after davening-rolls, eggs, pancakes, cereal, soy milk-nothing major but it worked until lunch....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: voldemort on November 05, 2014, 03:48:25 PM
Is the dairy place reopened at the JCC-when we were there in August they were closed for renovations and said that would be for the next while-they only had the meat rest/Sunday buffet?
The website still says its closed.
http://www.jcc.org.hk/jcc-restaurants.php
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 03:50:07 PM
kz offers free breakfast (pareve) after davening-rolls, eggs, pancakes, cereal, soy milk-nothing major but it worked until lunch....
I read about that. I was hoping to go to the JCC in the morning from the airport (I'm landing at 5:40 am) and daven and eat something and then head out to Victoria's peak (per DDFrs recommendations to get there early) and then head out to Kowloon in the afternoon and have lunch at KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on November 05, 2014, 03:52:24 PM
kz offers free breakfast (pareve) after davening-rolls, eggs, pancakes, cereal, soy milk-nothing major but it worked until lunch....
It's not free anymore.

They charge 100 HGD.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 03:53:13 PM
I read about that. I was hoping to go to the JCC in the morning from the airport (I'm landing at 5:40 am) and daven and eat something and then head out to Victoria's peak (per DDFrs recommendations to get there early) and then head out to Kowloon in the afternoon and have lunch at KZ.
Why don't you do it the other way around.

Go to KZ first, then The Peak and after that eat lunch at JCC.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 05, 2014, 03:53:44 PM
I read about that. I was hoping to go to the JCC in the morning from the airport (I'm landing at 5:40 am) and daven and eat something and then head out to Victoria's peak (per DDFrs recommendations to get there early) and then head out to Kowloon in the afternoon and have lunch at KZ.
well it seems that the dairy rest. at jcc is still closed for renovations anyhow.... def. get to victorias peak early as the lines become insane (up to a 2 hr wait) later in the day....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 03:54:15 PM
Why don't you do it the other way around.

Go to KZ first, then The Peak and after that eat lunch at JCC.
Isn't the peak far from Kowloon?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
Isn't the peak far from Kowloon?
Other side of the Harbor, but not a big deal to get across by ferry.

How were you planning on traveling around?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on November 05, 2014, 03:56:20 PM
Why don't you do it the other way around.

Go to KZ first, then The Peak and after that eat lunch at JCC.
+1
Isn't the peak far from Kowloon?
Not so far. Either way you will need to go from the Peak to Kowloon.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 05, 2014, 03:57:13 PM
Isn't the peak far from Kowloon?
ferry across as MP said or you can take the subway-there is a stop right by Victorias peak and another stop right outside of KZ literally-about a 7-8 min subway ride
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 03:59:14 PM
+1Not so far. Either way you will need to go from the Peak to Kowloon.
True, but I am only in a rush getting to the peak as I want to avoid the lines. I don't mind taking my time from the peak to KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 03:59:53 PM
True, but I am only in a rush getting to the peak as I want to avoid the lines. I don't mind taking my time from the peak to KZ.
You don't need to be at the Peak 8 AM. Have you checked the hours of operation?

7:00 AM -12:00PM. Lines probably start filling up 10 and on IMO.

If you are taking the Big Bus, i believe you can even cut part of the line.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:00:25 PM
Other side of the Harbor, but not a big deal to get across by ferry.

How were you planning on traveling around?
Public transportation when convenient and taxis.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on November 05, 2014, 04:01:38 PM
True, but I am only in a rush getting to the peak as I want to avoid the lines. I don't mind taking my time from the peak to KZ.
You'll be fine.

Davening starts at 7:15 and you'll be out of there by 8:15-8:30 latest.

Shouldn't take you more than 20-30 minutes to get to the peak.

If you are there by 9am you're good.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:03:37 PM
You'll be fine.

Davening start at 7:15 and you'll be out of there by 8;15-8:30 latest.

Shouldn't take you more than 20-30 minutes to get to the peak.

If you are there by 9am you're good.
Makes sense, I was under the impression that it would take much longer to get from KZ to the peak. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 04:04:57 PM
Makes sense, I was under the impression that it would take much longer to get from KZ to the peak. Thanks guys.
No, it should not take too long. The Peak is also kind of close to the JCC for when you are done there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:06:10 PM
Is there any nice shopping in the peak/JCC area?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 04:06:45 PM
Is there any nice shopping in the peak/JCC area?
What kind of shopping? Souvenirs, or retail stores?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:10:47 PM
What kind of shopping? Souvenirs, or retail stores?
Mall type.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 04:18:07 PM
I'm not so familiar with HKI and the malls, but on the Kowloon side, right past the ferry terminal is a huge mall.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
I'm not so familiar with HKI and the malls, but on the Kowloon side, right past the ferry terminal is a huge mall.
Thanks for all your help.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:21:34 PM
What's the best way to acquire tickets for the peak? online? at the site?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
What's the best way to acquire tickets for the peak? online? at the site?
I would say if you can get before, do it that way. I got my tickets when i purchased my Big Bus tickets.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:35:17 PM
I would say if you can get before, do it that way. I got my tickets when i purchased my Big Bus tickets.
IIRC in you TR you wrote that you bought those on the street, correct?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 05, 2014, 04:38:09 PM
What's the best way to acquire tickets for the peak? online? at the site?
Buy them before -the lines there to buy tickets were pretty long too (I know your are trying to beat the lines but just in case...)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2014, 04:38:45 PM
IIRC in you TR you wrote that you bought those on the street, correct?
Yes. Right when you get off/on the ferry in Kowloon, they have lots of people selling them. The Big Bus people are all over, just keep an eye out for them.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 05, 2014, 04:42:59 PM
Is there any nice shopping in the peak/JCC area?
There definitely are-this should help...http://www.discoverhongkong.com/in/shop/where-to-shop/malls-and-department-stores
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on November 05, 2014, 04:52:39 PM
Mall type.

On HKI you have a few upscale malls. IFC, Pacific Place, etc. They are upscale and fancy.

I would still recommend the markets as they are more unique. If you do want to hit up markets in Kowloon they have those, The Ladies Market, Night Market, Temple Street Market, etc.

I personally like the markets more because the malls I can do the same store here.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 05, 2014, 04:56:01 PM
On HKI you have a few upscale malls. IFC, Pacific Place, etc. They are upscale and fancy.

I would still recommend the markets as they are more unique. If you do want to hit up markets in Kowloon they have those, The Ladies Market, Night Market, Temple Street Market, etc.

I personally like the markets more because the malls I can do the same store here.
I would definitely check the markets, are there any on HKI?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on November 18, 2014, 12:32:14 PM
Anyone ever hear of/eat at  Mul Hayam its near Kehilat Zion? Just curious what the food was like? Thanks
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 18, 2014, 12:32:44 PM
Anyone ever hear of/eat at  Mul Hayam its near Kehilat Zion? Just curious what the food was like? Thanks
Isn't that one and the same?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2014, 12:37:59 PM
Isn't that one and the same?
Yes.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 18, 2014, 12:42:13 PM
Anyone ever hear of/eat at  Mul Hayam its near Kehilat Zion? Just curious what the food was like? Thanks
Isn't that one and the same?
Yes.
I went for lunch and the place was about empty. Food was good, but seemed very expensive. Though can't really complain about getting a hot kosher meal in HKG.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 18, 2014, 12:51:00 PM
Anyone ever hear of/eat at  Mul Hayam its near Kehilat Zion? Just curious what the food was like? Thanks

Was there for dinner when we were there-food was delicious but prices are really steep
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on November 18, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
Thanks peeps
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 18, 2014, 01:10:33 PM
Anyone ever hear of/eat at  Mul Hayam its near Kehilat Zion? Just curious what the food was like? Thanks
Isn't that one and the same?
Yes.
I went for lunch and the place was about empty. Food was good, but seemed very expensive. Though can't really complain about getting a hot kosher meal in HKG.
I went at 12 in the afternoon. Food was delicious, but extremely expensive. But then again i was in HKG.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: bubble347 on November 18, 2014, 02:49:17 PM
The JCC has pretty good food and is quite reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 18, 2014, 03:27:26 PM
The JCC has pretty good food and is quite reasonably priced.
I was told the JCC lunch is amazing and its a must... but i missed it
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 18, 2014, 03:27:59 PM
I was told the JCC lunch is amazing and its a must... but i missed it
Dairy or meat?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 18, 2014, 03:28:43 PM
Dairy or meat?
I missed it so i cant tell you :P but i think thats what i read along the lines while planning my trip
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 18, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
I missed it so i cant tell you :P but i think thats what i read along the lines while planning my trip
I am not sure if it is a "must", but after being in Thailand for a week and no dairy, it was nice to have a "pizza" and cheese dishes.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 18, 2014, 03:34:19 PM
The JCC meat is decent and pizza is awful.
Prices are fine.

Shalom Grill is also decent and prices are fine.

Mul Hayam prices are very high but food is better quality.

Best deal is the Sunday night JCC buffet.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 18, 2014, 03:37:05 PM
The JCC meat is decent and pizza is awful.
Prices are fine.

Shalom Grill is also decent and prices are fine.

Mul Hayam prices are very high but food is better quality.

Best deal is the Sunday night JCC buffet.
This is what i meant. I stand corrected.

@marco polo - I dont like dairy that much. i loved Thailand food
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on November 18, 2014, 03:37:14 PM
I was told the JCC lunch is amazing and its a must... but i missed it
Make sure to check before you head to the JCC for the dairy rest. as it was closed in the summer for renovations and only the meat rest. was open-so double check if it reopened yet. ALso if you are there for Sunday night-the JCC all you can eat meat BBQ is FANTASTIC (meats, chickens, pastas, breads, salads, sushi, desserts, and tons more!!)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 18, 2014, 03:58:34 PM
The sticky Vietnamese rice at Mul Hayam is one of my fav dishes anywhere
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2014, 04:16:55 AM
The sticky Vietnamese rice at Mul Hayam is one of my fav dishes anywhere
Tung Choi chicken fan here
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
Is it crazy to try and leave HKG to go to KZ for a meal with 5 hours?

Arrive 11:45am, depart 4:55pm.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on December 06, 2014, 10:08:55 PM
Is it crazy to try and leave HKG to go to KZ for a meal with 5 hours?

Arrive 11:45am, depart 4:55pm.
Not crazy.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2014, 10:11:36 PM
You think I'd be better off at KZ or JCC?

Figure I should probably take the Airport Express, right?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 06, 2014, 10:14:12 PM
You think I'd be better off at KZ or JCC?

Figure I should probably take the Airport Express, right?

After Airport Express take subway, KZ is about half a block away from a subway stop while the JCC would require a train plus cab. I would do KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2014, 10:21:28 PM
Yeah, looked that way to me, too.

Possible to buy subway/bus tix with CC there? Don't want to go through hassle of exchanging money.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 06, 2014, 10:29:52 PM
Yeah, looked that way to me, too.

Possible to buy subway/bus tix with CC there? Don't want to go through hassle of exchanging money.

If I remember correctly yes. But might only be one machine that would take CC
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 06, 2014, 10:30:08 PM
IIRC, KZ would be before the JCC on the airport express.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 06, 2014, 10:31:49 PM
IIRC, KZ would be before the JCC on the airport express.

Correct. It stops in Kowloon before continuing onto HKI.

If I remember correctly yes. But might only be one machine that would take CC

Thanks, that works.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on December 07, 2014, 12:13:59 AM
I would cab it.

Not so much more expensive than the airport express/subway, especially since you have no luggage.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 07, 2014, 12:17:36 AM

I would cab it.

Not so much more expensive than the airport express/subway, especially since you have no luggage.

How Much is the airport express? I think it might depend what time of day it is also.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on December 07, 2014, 12:22:30 AM
I would cab it.

Not so much more expensive than the airport express/subway, especially since you have no luggage.
Don't cab it. You have such a short window of time that you cannot risk many variables such as traffic.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 08, 2014, 03:44:27 PM
Worked out with plenty of time. Took Airport Express and then a cab from Kowloon Station.

Even if I had to walk, it'd have been worth it for the Vietnamese Rice:

(http://i.gyazo.com/acc76a08181c89cf78db47738ebeb8f3.png)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jewdkoff on December 08, 2014, 11:50:15 PM
Can someone please detail how to get kosher food in the F CX Loung in HKG? I remember reading a quick thing about it but couldn't find any proper instructions.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 09, 2014, 12:02:09 AM

Can someone please detail how to get kosher food in the F CX Loung in HKG? I remember reading a quick thing about it but couldn't find any proper instructions.

Thanks!

Check out this thread and the wiki. It in there - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=47400
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jewdkoff on December 09, 2014, 10:46:31 AM
Check out this thread and the wiki. It in there - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=47400

Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on December 21, 2014, 10:26:08 PM
Check out this company: kosherfoodhk.com

They may deliver to hotels in HK soon.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on December 30, 2014, 08:42:27 PM
Using points but forget the cost, which is the best place to stay at in Kowloon between IC, Hyatt and Sheraton?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2014, 08:55:52 PM
For shabbos or not for shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on December 30, 2014, 08:56:37 PM
Not for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2014, 08:57:49 PM
Not for Shabbos.
Can buy cheap anniversary nights for the Hyatt (not a very shabbos-friendly hotel) and the W is pure awesomeness (also not a shabbos hotel).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2014, 09:06:31 PM

Using points but forget the cost, which is the best place to stay at in Kowloon between IC, Hyatt and Sheraton?

Just left the Hyatt earlier today. Thats my go to place here. Used points.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on December 30, 2014, 09:06:48 PM
I got all the points and one Hyatt anniversary night too, but I was wondering if this is a good IC to lash out some of my IHG points? (30k SPG for the W is too much for me).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on December 30, 2014, 09:07:43 PM
Just left the Hyatt earlier today. Thats my go to place here. Used points.
have you been to the IC?. Wondering how that place is.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2014, 09:07:43 PM

Can buy cheap anniversary nights for the Hyatt (not a very shabbos-friendly hotel) and the W is pure awesomeness (also not a shabbos hotel).

Well its quite shabbos friendly if you would use elevators on shabbas. If no elevators then not shabbas friendly.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2014, 09:08:39 PM

have you been to the IC?. Wondering how that place is.

Nope. But i find the hyatt to be convenient and the staff there is great.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2014, 09:09:29 PM
W is not 30k.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on December 30, 2014, 09:22:41 PM
W is not 30k.
Sorry, your right it's only 20, but still I'm leaning towards one of those 3 and I think Hyatt will be the best value as I have an anniversary night as well.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: voldemort on December 30, 2014, 11:10:30 PM

Nope. But i find the hyatt to be convenient and the staff there is great.
Is that the Hyatt that lends smartphones for all guests?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2014, 11:12:42 PM

Is that the Hyatt that lends smartphones for all guests?

Yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: voldemort on December 30, 2014, 11:17:03 PM

Yes
Thanks.
Between the two Hyatt regency's you would recommend this one?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 30, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
Only stayed at TST
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: voldemort on December 30, 2014, 11:55:48 PM

Only stayed at TST
Ok,the free phone is gonna decide for me.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on December 31, 2014, 12:05:05 AM
Ok,the free phone is gonna decide for me.
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The one in Sha Tin is bs. Simple hotel in middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on December 31, 2014, 08:54:58 AM
Is that the Hyatt that lends smartphones for all guests?
Ok,the free phone is gonna decide for me.
Forgive my ignorance, what's this free phone thing?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on December 31, 2014, 09:14:31 AM
GIYF
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2014, 09:30:25 AM
Forgive my ignorance, what's this free phone thing?
Hyatt TST offers a free phone to guests during the stay.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 31, 2014, 02:23:10 PM
have you been to the IC?. Wondering how that place is.
There are 2 IC's in Kowloon-I stayed at the Grand Stanford (which is a bit newer and in better condition) and had an amazing time. Clean rooms in amazing condition, great great service, and right down the block from KZ/Mul Hayam! Only gripe-the worst a/c I ever experienced in the lobby area (and you really notice that in HKG!!!)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 31, 2014, 03:26:04 PM
There are 2 IC's in Kowloon-I stayed at the Grand Stanford (which is a bit newer and in better condition) and had an amazing time. Clean rooms in amazing condition, great great service, and right down the block from KZ/Mul Hayam! Only gripe-the worst a/c I ever experienced in the lobby area (and you really notice that in HKG!!!)

Depends which season you go. I didnt need AC just now. Was beautiful weather.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on December 31, 2014, 05:12:32 PM
Depends which season you go. I didnt need AC just now. Was beautiful weather.
That is true-we were there in the summer when it was 100 degrees and 80% humidity, so we did not hang around the lobby areas much-but just to note -the rooms there have AMAZING a/c-we were freezing at night!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on January 03, 2015, 01:42:58 PM
Anyone have knowledge of the Hyatt's in HKG asking for ID on corp rates?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 03, 2015, 05:42:37 PM
Anyone have knowledge of the Hyatt's in HKG asking for ID on corp rates?
No experience, but go with the HR TST. The GHHK was not that great.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 05, 2015, 11:22:36 AM
Anyone stay at the "other" Hyatt Regency here?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on January 06, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
Has any one been in HKG for Shabbos with kids (that can't walk)?
If yes, where did you stay?
Shangri La is next door to Kehilat Zion and I'm sure the hotel staff would't mind pushing a stroller next door for the meals
Shangri La can charge $300+ a night as opposed to the Hyatt Regency 15k points a night
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on January 06, 2015, 04:59:58 PM
How about the Plaza Premium Lounge? It is before security. I think a Diners card can get me in, can a united card? There is also a Cathay "arrivals" lounge, how can I get access to that?
The Plaza Premium Lounge is after security.
The Arrivals lounge (a small decent lounge with showers) is before security but it's only for arriving CX F/J passengers.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 06, 2015, 05:09:35 PM
Has any one been in HKG for Shabbos with kids (that can't walk)?
If yes, where did you stay?
Shangri La is next door to Kehilat Zion and I'm sure the hotel staff would't mind pushing a stroller next door for the meals
Shangri La can charge $300+ a night as opposed to the Hyatt Regency 15k points a night
We were in HKG last summer with an almost 2 year old who was walking but not for far distances. We stayed in the IHG Grand Stanford hotel using points (50,000 per night+1 free night cert.) and arranged with the concierge for one of the bellboys to push the stroller for us on Fri night (we went after shabbos started because the baby was napping) on Shabbos morning and on shabbos afternoon to KHZ (about a 5 minute walk). The hotel charged us 50 HKD for each time the service was done. After the meal was over on Fri night and Shbaoos Day, the gabbai at KHZ arranged with one of the girls from the kitchen to push the stroller back to the hotel (we paid her 50 hkd for each time as well). The Hyatt is a bit further walk and is located in the top section of a very tall building so the only way up and down is via elevator (ask your lor about going in a reg. elevator if you have a goy push the buttons).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on January 06, 2015, 06:08:08 PM
At the kz on shabbes you didn't have to pay, you just tipped them
Interesting that the ic charged you, or was that also a tip?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 07, 2015, 04:52:56 PM
At the kz on shabbes you didn't have to pay, you just tipped them
Interesting that the ic charged you, or was that also a tip?
In KZ the gabbai told me that I should tip them and when I asked how much he said 50 HKD for both times (not sure if I made it sound like that was for each time) and said I should not give more so they dont start becoming greedy for the next person.... In the IC that was an official charge that they billed to my room because the concierge told me that any time an employee performs a task outside the hotel he needs to wear a special uniform so the charge was for that (making them put on the special uniform and doing the service outside, etc....)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on January 07, 2015, 10:57:19 PM
Has any one been in HKG for Shabbos with kids (that can't walk)?
If yes, where did you stay?
Shangri La is next door to Kehilat Zion and I'm sure the hotel staff would't mind pushing a stroller next door for the meals
Shangri La can charge $300+ a night as opposed to the Hyatt Regency 15k points a night
Yes, stayed in the Shangri-La just for shabbos.

Def, worth every penny. You can go back and forth between the shul and hotel freely (just ask one of the bellman to push the stroller)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:11:30 AM
Heading to Hing Kong. Not Australia as I had planned
Crazy part is I'm leaving in 2 days. And trying to crash course on DDF for advice and ideas. (There is so much info on here but so spread out...)

Going to spend shabbos there- so what hotel am I staying at that will be convenient for shabbos but also be a nice and comfortable stay? No kids.  Have plenty of Spg, Amex and chase points available.

Flying Cathay Business class direct both ways. Think Avios was best bet with the 40k bonus points.

Do I need a special visa to enter?

Any and all advice and info is appreciated.



Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on January 20, 2015, 02:24:39 AM
Assuming you have a US passport, you don't need a visa for stays of less than 3 months.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 20, 2015, 02:39:46 AM
Heading to Hing Kong. Not Australia as I had planned
Crazy part is I'm leaving in 2 days. And trying to crash course on DDF for advice and ideas. (There is so much info on here but so spread out...)

Going to spend shabbos there- so what hotel am I staying at that will be convenient for shabbos but also be a nice and comfortable stay? No kids.  Have plenty of Spg, Amex and chase points available.

Flying Cathay Business class direct both ways. Think Avios was best bet with the 40k bonus points.

Do I need a special visa to enter?

Any and all advice and info is appreciated.
Hyatt Regency TST is less than a five minute walk to KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:40:22 AM
Assumed correctly.
The thread has some posts saying that I will need a visa to go shopping on certain markets. Any idea what that means?

And as for hotel- I think I want to be near KZ and prefer to use steps on Shabbos. I can have an SPG platinum member book for me or I can contact KZ and stay right next to them with their corporate code. Suggestions?

Flight- was avios the right move? 140k round trip. (Really 100k)

 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:41:27 AM
Is the HR shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 20, 2015, 02:44:30 AM
Assumed correctly.
The thread has some posts saying that I will need a visa to go shopping on certain markets. Any idea what that means?

And as for hotel- I think I want to be near KZ and prefer to use steps on Shabbos. I can have an SPG platinum member book for me or I can contact KZ and stay right next to them with their corporate code. Suggestions?

Flight- was avios the right move? 140k round trip. (Really 100k)
Not sure on the total miles, but AA is good as well. You didn't do bad with BA.

You can speak to the hotel, but you would need the staff to work the elevator for you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:45:28 AM
Would rather stairs- how's the Sheraton and which one? Spg has few options.

Or the KZ hotel (I forget the name)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:45:49 AM
Shangri La
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 20, 2015, 02:46:25 AM
Would rather stairs- how's the Sheraton and which one? Spg has few options.

Or the KZ hotel (I forget the name)
Not sure on Sheraton.

Are you referring to the Shangri-La?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:46:43 AM
Yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 20, 2015, 02:49:17 AM
Yes
Apparantly they are very Shabbat friendly and you can trip out of the hotel into KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:51:02 AM
Ok. Great.

What's this business about needing a visa to go shopping? Any idea?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 20, 2015, 02:52:07 AM
Ok. Great.

What's this business about needing a visa to go shopping? Any idea?
Not familiar with this. What type of shopping?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Jetes64 on January 20, 2015, 02:57:30 AM
To go to Shenzhen
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 20, 2015, 03:03:11 AM
To go to Shenzhen
Could be mainland China needs a visa. HK is different. Someone CMIIW. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 20, 2015, 03:51:04 AM
shenzen is in china and needs a visa. no need for a visa to shop in hong kong
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 27, 2015, 04:48:43 PM
is arriving at 2pm on friday in the winter really bad? Planning on staying n kowloon
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 27, 2015, 05:10:33 PM
is arriving at 2pm on friday in the winter really bad? Planning on staying n kowloon
Shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 27, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
Shouldn't be an issue.
Great tx. So 3 hours to clear customs and get settled in hotel not pushing it? I see its a 25 min drive to the Hyatt.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 27, 2015, 05:36:12 PM
Great tx. So 3 hours to clear customs and get settled in hotel not pushing it? I see its a 25 min drive to the Hyatt.
w/o traffic, but traffic at that time of day could be pretty bad-we switched from the IC GS to the Hyatt which shows a 8 minute drive on google maps but took almost 30 minutes bec. of traffic-the train might be a better option?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 27, 2015, 05:50:31 PM
w/o traffic, but traffic at that time of day could be pretty bad-we switched from the IC GS to the Hyatt which shows a 8 minute drive on google maps but took almost 30 minutes bec. of traffic-the train might be a better option?
I came in around same time with no issue. Train is two trains and doable without much luggage or kids.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 28, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
Anyone do JFK-HKG with CX with a toddler? What time is best for sleeping and transition? currently on a 9am and thinking between that and the 130pm or a 1am. Anyone with experience?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2015, 12:02:31 AM
is arriving at 2pm on friday in the winter really bad? Planning on staying n kowloon
What's your backup plan when your flight is delayed on the runway for 1.5 hours?
AYLOR...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 28, 2015, 12:30:43 AM
What's your backup plan when your flight is delayed on the runway for 1.5 hours?
AYLOR...
Your right. Even if its doable I'd be a nervous wreck the entire time. Gonna leave Wed instead of Thu. Any experience on the departure times?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on January 28, 2015, 01:30:49 AM
Never done with kids, but the 9AM flight will be a guaranteed disaster with kids.

1AM is probably the best idea.


Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on January 28, 2015, 03:38:42 AM
Anyone do JFK-HKG with CX with a toddler? What time is best for sleeping and transition? currently on a 9am and thinking between that and the 130pm or a 1am. Anyone with experience?
I've done the 9am with a kid. Def not ideal.

I would shoot for the 1:35pm as hopefully 5-6 hours into the flight your kids will be ready to go to sleep.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on January 28, 2015, 07:50:55 AM
Anyone do JFK-HKG with CX with a toddler? What time is best for sleeping and transition? currently on a 9am and thinking between that and the 130pm or a 1am. Anyone with experience?
we went from tlv to hkg and took the 11 pm flight and it was grt as our 2 year old fell asleep about 2 hrs into the flight and slept the whole rest of the way-when he awoke it was about 1 pm hkg time so we just skipped his nap that day and put him in early that night and he got right on schedule-cant comment on jfk to hkg but if the overnight is the same sit I would say to go for that one........
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 28, 2015, 09:21:05 AM
I've done the 9am with a kid. Def not ideal.

I would shoot for the 1:35pm as hopefully 5-6 hours into the flight your kids will be ready to go to sleep.
1pm is not available anymore, and in hindsight I think 9am may work better for us.

My logic is: kids waking up at 6am, they'll be on the plane for about 7 hours awake making it 4pm. They'll be tired by then (they normally go to bed at 6) and hopefully they'll sleep most of the rest of the flight. We'll get there at 2pm settle in and get some food. Then hopefully they'll be ready for sleep again at 7-8pm.


If I'm arriving on Thu at 2pm and planning on going to CNX from Mon-Thu (then return home), should I take the sun night flight or mon morning? Do I wanna spend a lot of time at the JCC BBQ so rather leave Mon morning?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2015, 09:25:18 AM
CNX Sunday market or JCC Sunday buffet...now thats a toughie!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 28, 2015, 09:28:14 AM
CNX Sunday market or JCC Sunday buffet...now thats a toughie!
O forgot about the CNX market. So which one? I feel like I get enough food in NY maybe the market will be cooler? Or is it not THAT cool...?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on January 28, 2015, 09:38:44 AM
1pm is not available anymore, and in hindsight I think 9am may work better for us.

My logic is: kids waking up at 6am, they'll be on the plane for about 7 hours awake making it 4pm. They'll be tired by then (they normally go to bed at 6) and hopefully they'll sleep most of the rest of the flight. We'll get there at 2pm settle in and get some food. Then hopefully they'll be ready for sleep again at 7-8pm.


If I'm arriving on Thu at 2pm and planning on going to CNX from Mon-Thu (then return home), should I take the sun night flight or mon morning? Do I wanna spend a lot of time at the JCC BBQ so rather leave Mon morning?
I think the BBQ is just a BBQ, you can do one in your house for cheaper. Yes, it is nice that the far east has so much kosher meat in one place, but at the end of the day, it is just grilled meat with mustard. I would go home, buy a few packs of choice meat at the supermarket and make a BBQ in my backyard with my family and friends for cheaper. An extra night in HK costs a lot and the BBQ costs a lot. The total with taxis and all might be more than $500 (or that value in points).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 28, 2015, 09:44:19 AM
I think the BBQ is just a BBQ, you can do one in your house for cheaper. Yes, it is nice that the far east has so much kosher meat in one place, but at the end of the day, it is just grilled meat with mustard. I would go home, buy a few packs of choice meat at the supermarket and make a BBQ in my backyard with my family and friends for cheaper. An extra night in HK costs a lot and the BBQ costs a lot. The total with taxis and all might be more than $500 (or that value in points).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 28, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
CNX Sunday market or JCC Sunday buffet...now thats a toughie!
Buffet over Sunday market IMHO and i haven't even done the buffet (yet. Third time may be the charm).

The regular night market has plenty to see.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 28, 2015, 10:11:15 AM
Buffet over Sunday market IMHO and i haven't even done the buffet (yet. Third time may be the charm).

The regular night market has plenty to see.

I can't believe I'm agreeing do a buffet over an attraction in Thailand, but I agree.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on January 28, 2015, 10:25:11 AM
O gosh now I'm torn
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 28, 2015, 10:27:07 AM
I can't imagine that the buffet is that amazing. Rather, I found the night market underwhelming. It's cute, and something to do, but now having done it, had I skipped it, I wouldn't/shouldn't have cared.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 28, 2015, 10:36:42 AM
I can't imagine that the buffet is that amazing. Rather, I found the night market underwhelming. It's cute, and something to do, but now having done it, had I skipped it, I wouldn't/shouldn't have cared.
To add on this, the regular night market has plenty to look at. That together with all the other amazing things to do in CNX, you shouldn't be too torn.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2015, 10:40:04 AM
CNX has the reg night market, sat night wua lai market, and sun market.

They say the Sunday is the best (not cheap knockoffs like the reg night market) but I've never been.

Buffet is really nice, but nothing that will blow you away.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 28, 2015, 10:42:53 AM
If you need to start playing around with flight times etc. don't do it. Just stay with your current plan.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on January 28, 2015, 01:33:58 PM
Sunday market or even just a extra day relaxing
While the bbq is very good, last time it wasn't amazing... it's nice to have very good food in a far away place, but it's the topping on the strawberries... don't miss out on the strawberries for a little extra cream
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on January 28, 2015, 05:03:34 PM
The best thing about the buffet is the amount of good kosher food you're eating in Asia. It's not particularly good.
That being said, there are plenty of markets in CNX to choose from.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 28, 2015, 05:04:11 PM
The best thing about the buffet is the amount of good kosher food you're eating in Asia. It's not particularly good.
That being said, there are plenty of markets in CNX to choose from.
And the Chabad food is not that bad.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on January 28, 2015, 05:06:15 PM
And the Chabad food is not that bad.
True. I liked the CNX food better than JCC. And it's way cheaper too.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on January 28, 2015, 05:07:53 PM
True. I liked the CNX food better than JCC. And it's way cheaper too.
That's almost an understatement. You can have an "all you can eat" in CNX for half the price as JCC.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on February 18, 2015, 11:49:23 AM
Best points option to be near chabad for shabbs?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 18, 2015, 11:51:38 AM
Best points option to be near chabad for shabbs?

Shangri La - right next to Kowloon Chabad

If you are willing to take a elevator on Shabbat there are more options with points.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
Best points option to be near chabad for shabbs?
Which points and which Chabad?

The Conrad should be walkable to Chabad of HKI.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on February 18, 2015, 12:30:03 PM
Which points and which Chabad?

The Conrad should be walkable to Chabad of HKI.
Stop. Stop with the HKI propaganda. Kowloon has a Chabad much better geared towards tourists and much better (closer) hotel options for points.
W
Hyatt Regency
Sheraton
Intercontinental GS
Hie
Etc
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2015, 12:32:53 PM
 ::) ::) ::) ::)

I had an absolutely incredible shabbos at Chabad of HKI.  The food was amazing, the local community members were fascinating, and the rabbi was inspiring.
Sorry that it's not "touristy" enough for you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on February 18, 2015, 12:33:44 PM
::) ::) ::) ::)

I had an absolutely incredible shabbos at Chabad of HKI.  The food was amazing, the local community members were fascinating, and the rabbi was inspiring.
Sorry that it's not "touristy" enough for you.
Ill pm you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 18, 2015, 12:35:12 PM
::) ::) ::) ::)

I had an absolutely incredible shabbos at Chabad of HKI.  The food was amazing, the local community members were fascinating, and the rabbi was inspiring.
Sorry that it's not "touristy" enough for you.
Where is that one located?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on February 18, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
Where is that one located?
Mcdonnel. HKI.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 18, 2015, 12:41:09 PM
Mcdonnel. HKI.
Do they offer food during the week, or just over Shabbat?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on February 18, 2015, 12:46:04 PM
Do they offer food during the week, or just over Shabbat?
No meals during the day, (maybe free breakfast after shachrit, I am not sure.) Shabbat food is highly rated.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 18, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
Thanks. May need to check them out next time i am there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on February 18, 2015, 01:58:19 PM
Which points and which Chabad?

The Conrad should be walkable to Chabad of HKI.

UR points.

As for which chabad, im landing Thurs - Tuesday and prefer not to switch hotels. I guess the one best in terms of getting to tourist locations.

Advice?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on February 18, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
UR points.

As for which chabad, im landing Thurs - Tuesday and prefer not to switch hotels. I guess the one best in terms of getting to tourist locations.

Advice?
There are attractions on both sides.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 18, 2015, 06:06:26 PM
I have a one night layover in HKG.

Which Hyatt is preferable?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
Splurge for the W, you won't regret it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 18, 2015, 06:13:02 PM
Splurge for the W, you won't regret it.
I don't have SPG points ATM, just Hyatt.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2015, 06:15:21 PM
Should be able to get a corp rate of $300 or so.
Sell the 20k UR you'd use for the GH and pay for the W.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 18, 2015, 06:19:53 PM
Should be able to get a corp rate of $300 or so.
Sell the 20k UR you'd use for the GH and pay for the W.
Nah, selling UR, using illegit corp code. I don't care about ethics, I'm just not going out of my way for a short night layover.

HR TST at 15k, good?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2015, 06:26:55 PM
Decent, may as well buy an illegit anniv night thought ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on February 18, 2015, 09:39:23 PM
Decent, may as well buy an illegit anniv night thought ;)
kk, enough with dansdealish shtick  :P
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on February 18, 2015, 10:43:23 PM
I have a one night layover in HKG.

Which Hyatt is preferable?
HR TST would be your best option for one night. The gh is under renovations and you will get noise and the club has been relocated temporarily. I would only take the gh if I have business meetings there. The HR Sha Tin is way out of the way.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on March 08, 2015, 04:17:15 AM
I'm going to be in HKG from a Thurs - Tuesday with kids where should I stay? Shangri-la is close to KZ but close to $300 a night.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 08, 2015, 05:28:41 AM
I'm going to be in HKG from a Thurs - Tuesday with kids where should I stay? Shangri-la is close to KZ but close to $300 a night.
HR TST c + p + dsu.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 08, 2015, 05:36:34 AM
or sheraton
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 08, 2015, 07:06:52 AM
or sheraton
HR TST is a bit nicer, better value if you do dsu, more shabbat friendly for kids, (will push stroller to KZ) and closer.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 08, 2015, 08:44:19 AM
HR TST is a bit nicer, better value if you do dsu, more shabbat friendly for kids, (will push stroller to KZ) and closer.
they have been known to make problems with people not booking from their own account
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 08, 2015, 09:21:40 AM
they have been known to make problems with people not booking from their own account
They realized it by me, but didn't give any issues. Still got our suite and lounge access.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 08, 2015, 09:30:00 AM
they have been known to make problems with people not booking from their own account
They may be a bit more lenient now with the new guest of honor policy.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 08, 2015, 02:05:30 PM
I heard that one of the CX lounges in the airport has fresh made fruit shakes. Anyone know which one?
Also, are any of the breads made in the airport kosher?
Finally, can I expect a kosher meal on a 2 hour CX flight in J to Hanoi?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on March 08, 2015, 02:18:39 PM
They realized it by me, but didn't give any issues. Still got our suite and lounge access.
They may be a bit more lenient now with the new guest of honor policy.
very well can be. my data point was from a few years ago
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on March 08, 2015, 04:44:58 PM

Finally, can I expect a kosher meal on a 2 hour CX flight in J to Hanoi?
I don't see why not. I got Hermolis on KA HKG-HGH
Title: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 08, 2015, 04:49:24 PM
I don't see why not. I got Hermolis on KA HKG-HGH

And I got a Hermolis on a Dragonair Y 2.5 hour flight.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on March 08, 2015, 04:54:52 PM
And I got a Hermolis on a Dragonair Y 2.5 hour flight.
What I said.
KA = DragonAir.
HKG-HGH = ~2 hours
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 08, 2015, 04:58:06 PM

What I said.
KA = DragonAir.
HKG-HGH = ~2 hours

I know. I read it just fine
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on March 08, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
I know. I read it just fine
You read it just fine. I know.

Wait, did I just copy Chuck both in behavior and text?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 11, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
Shangri La - right next to Kowloon Chabad

If you are willing to take a elevator on Shabbat there are more options with points.
I'm going to be in HKG from a Thurs - Tuesday with kids where should I stay? Shangri-la is close to KZ but close to $300 a night.

for my dates, its over 400 a night. I need from Thursday-Tuesday.

anyone ever stay here? about 300 a night for a suite.
http://www.twomr.com.hk/eng/rom_rat/rom_rat.html
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 11, 2015, 03:28:43 PM
anyone stay here?

http://www.kimberley.hk/eng/home/

$123/night and a 5-10 min walk to KZ

http://www.parkhotelgroup.com/hongkong/default-en.html

$164 also 5-10 min walk to KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 11, 2015, 06:11:31 PM
Can't get points to book the Hyatt?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 11, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
Can't get points to book the Hyatt?

I see it's 15k points. That's not bad. Is it shabbs friendly?

What can I get with a diamond account?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on March 11, 2015, 06:55:40 PM
How many points is it?

is it shabbs friendly and near chabad?
HR is a 5-7 minute walk to KZ
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 11, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
HR is a 5-7 minute walk to KZ

Thanks I updated my post. Looks like my best option. http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/10/05/review-hyatt-regency-hong-kong-tsim-sha-tsui/

Says here that u get a free phone with WiFi hot spot during your stay. Is this for everyone or only diamond members?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 11, 2015, 07:27:00 PM
Thanks I updated my post. Looks like my best option. http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/10/05/review-hyatt-regency-hong-kong-tsim-sha-tsui/

Says here that u get a free phone with WiFi hot spot during your stay. Is this for everyone or only diamond members?
Everyone gets it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 11, 2015, 07:27:36 PM
Shabbos is an issue there, they don't make staircase access easy.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 11, 2015, 07:29:12 PM
Shabbos is an issue there, they don't make staircase access easy.

Darn. Anyone else have experiences? It looks like my best option. Would be 75k points total for 5 days.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 11, 2015, 07:31:00 PM
Darn. Anyone else have experiences? It looks like my best option. Would be 75k points total for 5 days.

If you don't take elevators on Shabbat the HR TST is not really an option. If you do take elevators then it is a great option.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 11, 2015, 07:37:31 PM
There have been mixed experiences.

Email them the issue and see what they say they can do.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 12, 2015, 12:08:38 AM
If you don't take elevators on Shabbat the HR TST is not really an option. If you do take elevators then it is a great option.
I have heard good things about the stairs recently. I have laos heard that they allow after shabbat checkout for all the shabbat members at no additional cost. Speak to the front desk manager,
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on March 13, 2015, 01:28:57 AM
Any chance for kosher breakfast at the Hyatt regency?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 13, 2015, 08:57:56 AM
Any chance for kosher breakfast at the Hyatt regency?
I do not think so. As i mentioned somewhere else, they just handed me a sheet of paper with kosher stores. No breakfast provided.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on March 13, 2015, 09:54:32 AM
I do not think so. As i mentioned somewhere else, they just handed me a sheet of paper with kosher stores. No breakfast provided.
Did you email the GM with the request preceding your stay?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 13, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
Did you email the GM with the request preceding your stay?
Yes. That is why they had a list of kosher places prepared for me.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 13, 2015, 10:41:40 AM
Yes. That is why they had a list of kosher places prepared for me.

LOL

Where you there for shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 13, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
LOL

Where you there for shabbos?
I was. Ate at KZ Friday night and had some food from the JCC for lunch.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 13, 2015, 10:45:41 AM
I was. Ate at KZ Friday night and had some food from the JCC for lunch.

any issues with using the stairs as alluded to above?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 13, 2015, 10:46:30 AM
any issues with using the stairs as alluded to above?
Personally i was/am ok with having them do the elevator for me. Can't comment on the stairs.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 13, 2015, 11:07:47 AM
Personally i was/am ok with having them do the elevator for me. Can't comment on the stairs.

I was going to ask my LOR that but i just want to make sure they are willing to do it.

did they open the room too or did you prop it open?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 13, 2015, 11:09:06 AM
I was going to ask my LOR that but i just want to make sure they are willing to do it.

did they open the room too or did you prop it open?
They will open for you or a piece of cardboard works.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 13, 2015, 11:11:05 AM
They will open for you or a piece of cardboard works.

thanks all.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 15, 2015, 01:34:47 PM
thats that....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: jaywhy on March 15, 2015, 02:42:37 PM
thats that....
You always take no for an answer?  ???
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 15, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
You always take no for an answer?  ???

Well i dont want to be sleeping in the lobby.... if i was at the hotel, i would fight more. but to fight over email to hong kong, dont know if ill get anywhere
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on March 17, 2015, 11:58:02 PM
I'm arriving in terminal 1 (Cathay Pacific) flying economy comfort. Would like to take a shower, what are my options? Rather not have to pay.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 18, 2015, 01:56:26 AM
I'm arriving in terminal 1 (Cathay Pacific) flying economy comfort. Would like to take a shower, what are my options? Rather not have to pay.
Sinky
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on March 18, 2015, 09:16:22 AM
Sinky
Na I'm going to need a full shower. Any places to pay?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on March 18, 2015, 09:37:33 AM
Plaza premium lounge and United in terminal 1
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on March 18, 2015, 11:11:12 AM
they have been known to make problems with people not booking from their own account
Anyone have experience recently?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 18, 2015, 11:19:38 AM
I'm arriving in terminal 1 (Cathay Pacific) flying economy comfort. Would like to take a shower, what are my options? Rather not have to pay.
http://www.loungebuddy.com/
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on March 18, 2015, 11:24:12 AM
Can you just use a United pass?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on March 18, 2015, 11:24:39 AM
Can you just use a United pass?
Yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on March 18, 2015, 12:23:15 PM
Great thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on March 19, 2015, 11:29:09 AM
they have been known to make problems with people not booking from their own account
Anyone have experience recently?
Bump
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 25, 2015, 01:09:08 AM
Regarding the HR TST, my friend had no problems checking in while added to someone else reservation.

This was last week
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 25, 2015, 08:59:19 AM
Regarding the HR TST, my friend had no problems checking in while added to someone else reservation.

This was last week
To add... They knew i was booked under a different account and still didn't give me any issue.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on March 25, 2015, 10:35:52 AM
To add... They knew i was booked under a different account and still didn't give me any issue.
Regarding the HR TST, my friend had no problems checking in while added to someone else reservation.

This was last week

Thanks. I think I'll go with it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 25, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Thanks. I think I'll go with it.
You don't want to flaunt it, but if they do realize, shouldn't be a big deal.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: redcardresales on March 25, 2015, 10:21:13 PM
I'm actually looking to take a mountain climbing trip to China soon. It'll be unguided and self-supported, but I'm curious as to the cheapest airport to fly into, as I've never been to China. Would it be Hong Kong? I realize that would be further from the mountains, but I like to save my points when I can...

And, anyone see these guys in the news? They are Chineese mountain pikas...more endagnered than Panda Bears!  (http://boredomfiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/01-ili-pika.jpg)

http://boredomtherapy.com/ili-pika/?fb_action_ids=10155413993345046&fb_action_types=og.shares (ftp://boredomtherapy.com/ili-pika/?fb_action_ids=10155413993345046&fb_action_types=og.shares)


They are Chineese mountain pikas...more endagnered than Panda Bears!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on March 25, 2015, 10:55:59 PM
as I've never been to China. Would it be Hong Kong?
I've never climbed a mountain in China so no help here, but Hong Kong is in no way China. Two different worlds.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on April 08, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
Leaving wednesday night with cx nyc-hkg  and arriving friday morning.
Do I need to daven shacharis on the plane for thursday?
As far as I know cx used to fly over the pacific and it used to be dark the entire time so u didnt need to daven but lately looks like they are flying over the north pole.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on April 08, 2015, 11:19:02 PM
They're flying over the Pacific AND over the North Pole.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2015, 01:29:08 AM
http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=jfk-hkg&MS=wls&MX=540x540&PM=*
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA845/history/20150407/0530Z/KJFK/VHHH
http://www.chaitables.com/chai_air_eng.php?look=20150409
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on April 26, 2015, 12:45:53 AM
Mini hk trip report. Renaissance has bad service, small rooms, but still a decent hotel. Intercontinental (Harborview)  is epic, amazing service, designer soaps in the better rooms, Evian water bottles. Such good service, well worth the money. I will definitely go back. Hyatt Regency tst is average. I got the suite as a free upgrade. Still pretty small. Overall a simple 4 star hotel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on April 26, 2015, 04:01:06 PM
Mini hk trip report. Renaissance has bad service, small rooms, but still a decent hotel. Intercontinental (Harborview)  is epic, amazing service, designer soaps in the better rooms, Evian water bottles. Such good service, well worth the money. I will definitely go back. Hyatt Regency tst is average. I got the suite as a free upgrade. Still pretty small. Overall a simple 4 star hotel.
Agreed. Though for the location, it is a pretty good value.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 02, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
So my Thailand plan went away. Staying around Hong Kong / Shenzhen.

What should I do the first night.

Thursday - ?? I was thinking of doing Intercontinental Hong Kong, but was just thinking maybe go straight to Shenzhen. Opinions?

Friday - Sunday : Grand Hyatt Shenzhen
Sunday - Monday : Conrad Macau
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy on May 17, 2015, 12:14:48 PM
Did anyone ever hear that if you depart from Hong Kong the taxes for the passenger must be paid with a cc in their name as they would have to show that cc in the airport?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on May 17, 2015, 12:26:43 PM
Did anyone ever hear that if you depart from Hong Kong the taxes for the passenger must be paid with a cc in their name as they would have to show that cc in the airport?
Which airline?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy on May 17, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
Which airline?
Emirates
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on May 17, 2015, 03:30:11 PM
Emirates
I flew on Emirates out of HKG and was not asked for credit card.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 17, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Just a note. If coming to HKG by boat and taking a flight out you get back your departure taxes after check-in.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy on May 17, 2015, 04:51:39 PM
I flew on Emirates out of HKG and was not asked for credit card.
Can i ask how long ago? was this recent? I am wondering if maybe some rules were changed or....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Joe4007 on May 17, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
Can i ask how long ago? was this recent? I am wondering if maybe some rules were changed or....
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49934.msg1121250#msg1121250
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: JoeCha on May 17, 2015, 05:14:36 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=49934.msg1121250#msg1121250
Thank you secretary, but I have more important work for you to do today.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 17, 2015, 05:51:52 PM
Deciding how long to spend in HKG. As of now we'll be in SIN Friday early am (read 3:30am) through Monday. I thought that we would fly to HKG on either Mon night or Tue morning. We're leaving HKG Sunday afternoon. Does this make sense? Which one is better: Mon pm/Tue am? Or should we spend longer in SIN? I also thought that we might visit Macau overnight. Would we have time for this and still be able to see HKG properly?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 17, 2015, 06:09:12 PM
Deciding how long to spend in HKG. As of now we'll be in SIN Friday early am (read 3:30am) through Monday. I thought that we would fly to HKG on either Mon night or Tue morning. We're leaving HKG Sunday afternoon. Does this make sense? Which one is better: Mon pm/Tue am? Or should we spend longer in SIN? I also thought that we might visit Macau overnight. Would we have time for this and still be able to see HKG properly?

Personally, I don't think you need so long in HKG. 3 full days, including Macau would have been more than enough for me.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 17, 2015, 06:17:23 PM
Personally, I don't think you need so long in HKG. 3 full days, including Macau would have been more than enough for me.
So what would you do with the other days? Try to fly back early before Shabbos, spend longer in SIN, or visit another place, like DPS?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 17, 2015, 06:21:36 PM
Skip Macau, go to Shanghai or Beijing
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 17, 2015, 06:22:25 PM
Skip Macau, go to Shanghai or Beijing
That would involve a Chinese visa, which we may or may not want to do.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 17, 2015, 06:24:06 PM
That would involve a Chinese visa, which we may or may not want to do.
Not necessary for transit but can be arranged same day in HK. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 17, 2015, 08:01:27 PM
Not necessary for transit but can be arranged same day in HK.
Oh right, I forgot about the transit visa. Technically if we went from Singapore to Beijing to Hong Kong on a separate award we wouldn't need to get a visa. Any ideas on the best way to do that?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 19, 2015, 04:33:14 PM
I'm trying to decide in the HR TST is the best place for out entire stay, Thu-Sun. I read the back and forth about issues on shabbos using the stairs.

From what I can conclude, back when the hotel opened they refused to let guests use the stairs, but are ok (to even put it in writing) letting guests use the stairs now.

I wouldn't use an elevator even with a goy.

Is my conclusion correct? Is the HR TST now a good place to stay for shabbos? I'd rather not have to spend cash at the Shangri-La.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
I'm trying to decide in the HR TST is the best place for out entire stay, Thu-Sun. I read the back and forth about issues on shabbos using the stairs.

From what I can conclude, back when the hotel opened they refused to let guests use the stairs, but are ok (to even put it in writing) letting guests use the stairs now.

I wouldn't use an elevator even with a goy.

Is my conclusion correct? Is the HR TST now a good place to stay for shabbos? I'd rather not have to spend cash at the Shangri-La.
They will not let you use the stairs, that one report seems to be the exception, not the rule.
Feel free to write and report back.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 19, 2015, 04:38:39 PM
They will not let you use the stairs, that one report seems to be the exception, not the rule.
Feel free to write and report back.
So what are the other points options? The W seems to be almost a 40 minute walk away. Is the Intercontinental better for shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2015, 04:40:20 PM
So what are the other points options? The W seems to be almost a 40 minute walk away. Is the Intercontinental better for shabbos?
The W has very high floors only.

Sheraton and the IC are the main options.
But no reason not to email Hyatt.  Or perhaps even get Hyatt corp involved as it's a very odd policy.

On the HK Island side there are other options.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 19, 2015, 04:43:33 PM
The W has very high floors only.

Sheraton and the IC are the main options.
But no reason not to email Hyatt.  Or perhaps even get Hyatt corp involved as it's a very odd policy.

On the HK Island side there are other options.
True. I do have a lot of time until I go. I assume that if I have a letter letting me use the stairs they'd have to oblige. I'd rather not have to open 2 IHG CCs to get enough points for a free night at IC.

Thanks for the tips about the Sheraton though. I assume there's no Shabbos issues there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 20, 2015, 11:25:41 AM
The W has very high floors only.

Sheraton and the IC are the main options.
But no reason not to email Hyatt.  Or perhaps even get Hyatt corp involved as it's a very odd policy.

On the HK Island side there are other options.

I emailed Hyatt TST and they said NO using the stairs.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 11:38:38 AM
I emailed Hyatt TST and they said NO using the stairs.
I'm leaning towards staying at HR TST Thu and Sat nights and the Sheraton Fri night.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 02:20:14 PM
Which is better: to land in HKG Wed at 8:00pm and stay though Sun at 4:30pm, or land Thu afternoon at 1:00pm and still leave Sun at 4:30pm? I want to make sure we have enough time in HKG.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 20, 2015, 03:16:01 PM
Stay for Sunday - you will see the Filipino mobile homes and JCC buffet.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 03:17:03 PM
Stay for Sunday - you will see the Filipino mobile homes and JCC buffet.
The question wasn't to stay for Sunday or not (we're leaving Sun at about 4:30pm), rather should we arrive Wed night or Thursday afternoon?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 21, 2015, 12:32:44 PM
The question wasn't to stay for Sunday or not (we're leaving Sun at about 4:30pm), rather should we arrive Wed night or Thursday afternoon?

Thurs afternoon
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 21, 2015, 12:47:31 PM
Thurs afternoon
Too late. We booked for Wed pm. What's your reasoning though for spending an extra night in PEK as opposed to having a full day in HKG?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 21, 2015, 04:17:53 PM
Stay for Sunday - you will see the Filipino mobile homes and JCC buffet.

ma zeh?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
I emailed KZ and they said the meals are $150pp in the restaurant. Is that a typical price?
is the other chabad cheaper? i plan on eating a few meals there and this would run me over $1000.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 11:11:39 AM
I think that's just for shabbos. Regular meals aren't that much.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 11:16:10 AM
I emailed KZ and they said the meals are $150pp in the restaurant. Is that a typical price?
is the other chabad cheaper? i plan on eating a few meals there and this would run me over $1000.
$150pp USD or HKD? Also doesn't KZ have cheaper/free meals not in the restaurant on shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:18:19 AM
$150pp USD or HKD? Also doesn't KZ have cheaper/free meals not in the restaurant on shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 11:20:02 AM

For all three meals? What about another food option at KZ?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 28, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
Everyday regular meals are menu prices, so depends on what you order. KZ only has one type of meal setting on Shabbat but it was good food and decent atmosphere. For Shabbat that $150 would sound like its USD
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 28, 2015, 11:22:33 AM


During the week they have a menu and prices are based off the menu, Only Shabbat would be a set price.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:24:39 AM
During the week they have a menu and prices are based off the menu, Only Shabbat would be a set price.

ok thanks, if its 150 pp for both meals on shabbs, then although its a stretch, ill be fine paying it. It sounded like it was per meal so 150x3= 300. 300 x 6 days = $1800!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 11:25:32 AM
I think they ask for $150 p/p per meal for shabbos, so $600 total.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 11:28:44 AM
I think they ask for $150 p/p per meal for shabbos, so $600 total.
What?! $150 USD per meal! That's crazy! It's only 75 EUR in Venice to reserve a spot in the Gallery for all three meals! That makes my connections in HKG sound better by the day.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:29:43 AM
I think they ask for $150 p/p per meal for shabbos, so $600 total.

wow thats expensive.... shrek. whats my other option?

What?! $150 USD per meal! That's crazy! It's only 75 EUR in Venice to reserve a spot in the Gallery for all three meals! That makes my connections in HKG sound better by the day.

care to share?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 11:31:02 AM
wow thats expensive.... shrek. whats my other option?
Chabad of Kowloon or Chabad of Hong Kong Island.
Or ask for a discount?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:31:43 AM
seems like its free friday nite here. can someone give me info about the locations and differences of the two chabads? is there any reason to stay in Kowloon specifically"?
http://www.chabadhongkong.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/270055/jewish/Shabbat-Meals.htm
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 28, 2015, 11:32:40 AM
seems like its free friday nite here. can someone give me info about the locations and differences of the two chabads? is there any reason to stay in Kowloon specifically"?
http://www.chabadhongkong.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/270055/jewish/Shabbat-Meals.htm

The chabad in Kowloon is a block and a half away from KZ.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:35:50 AM
The chabad in Kowloon is a block and a half away from KZ.

it seems like its not walking distance from the hyatt TST. Any other options for points hotels near either chabad?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 11:36:49 AM
it seems like its not walking distance from the hyatt TST. Any other options for points hotels near either chabad?
Hyatt TST isn't a good shabbos hotel.
Sheraton is.

Are you trying to stay in Kowloon or HKI? Both have Chabads.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:39:50 AM
Hyatt TST isn't a good shabbos hotel.
Sheraton is.

Are you trying to stay in Kowloon or HKI? Both have Chabads.

honestly it doesnt make a difference to me. which sheraton?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 11:40:54 AM
honestly it doesnt make a difference to me. which sheraton?
The one around the corner from the HR TST.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
The one around the corner from the HR TST.
ftfy
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
The one around the corner from the HR TST.

this one?

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/sheraton/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=482&language=en_US

whats my best bet for getting a suite?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 11:58:28 AM

Email them for the "student rate" if you cannot afford $150 a person for the 3 meals. It is USD. They usually do not officially charge unless there is a trade show.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:02:42 PM
Email them for the "student rate" if you cannot afford $150 a person for the 3 meals. It is USD. They usually do not officially charge unless there is a trade show.
Do you know what the student rate is by chance?

Also, what are the options for Shabbos on HKI? Looks like the GH is a ~30 min walk and there's a JW Marriott a ~25 min walk, but besides that?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 12:06:01 PM
Also, what are the options for Shabbos on HKI? Looks like the GH is a ~30 min walk and there's a JW Marriott a ~25 min walk, but besides that?
1 minute walk: http://www.agoda.com/two-macdonnell-road/reviews/hong-kong-hk.html
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:13:22 PM
1 minute walk: http://www.agoda.com/two-macdonnell-road/reviews/hong-kong-hk.html
True, but I was looking for places bookable with points.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 12:15:36 PM
True, but I was looking for places bookable with points.
They are all about a mile away. GH is 50% further.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 12:16:24 PM
True, but I was looking for places bookable with points.
1. Sell points.
2. Book cheaper hotel.
3. Pocket difference.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
1. Sell points.
2. Book cheaper hotel.
3. Pocket difference.
Yeah, or use Arrival+, I know, just making sure I didn't miss something.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
1. Sell points.
2. Book cheaper hotel.
3. Pocket difference.
No buying or selling points on DDF.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
Yeah, or use Arrival+, I know, just making sure I didn't miss something.
There's nothing good with points that's nearby AFAIK.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 28, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
Do you know what the student rate is by chance?

Also, what are the options for Shabbos on HKI? Looks like the GH is a ~30 min walk and there's a JW Marriott a ~25 min walk, but besides that?
The GH is also uphill to the JCC.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:24:53 PM
The GH is also uphill to the JCC.
Thanks. We have to figure out where we'll be for shabbos, but we have time still. I'd ideally like to be in Kowloon at the Sheraton, but it might make more sense to spend it on HKI with connections, depending on what they offer us.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 12:27:50 PM
The GH is also uphill to the JCC.
And the Four Seasons to Shuvah Yisrael...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
And the Four Seasons to Shuvah Yisrael...
If I wouldn't want to pay $1750 HKD for the 2 MacDonnell apartment, I think the Four Seasons is out of the question, but thanks for the data point.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
If I wouldn't want to pay $1750 HKD for the 2 MacDonnell apartment, I think the Four Seasons is out of the question, but thanks for the data point.
Try the butterfly hotel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
Try the butterfly hotel.
Good idea! Thanks. We'll have to see if we end up on HKI for shabbos, but if we do and need a hotel it looks like a good option.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 12:42:08 PM
Good idea! Thanks. We'll have to see if we end up on HKI for shabbos, but if we do and need a hotel it looks like a good option.
There are a few butterflies, make sure you got the right one.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:42:54 PM
There are a few butterflies, make sure you got the right one.
Looks like the on Wellington is the closest one to Chabad HKI.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 12:46:48 PM
Looks like the on Wellington is the closest one to Chabad HKI.
Highly recommended for good value.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 12:51:17 PM
Highly recommended for good value.
Have you stayed there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 12:54:59 PM
Good idea! Thanks. We'll have to see if we end up on HKI for shabbos, but if we do and need a hotel it looks like a good option.
What am I missing?
The butterfly is $430 for Fri-Sun and is 20 minutes away from Chabad.
2 Macdonnell is $206 for Fri-Sun and is a minute away from Chabad.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 01:11:13 PM
See attached. Also 2 Macdonell is unavailable the weekend I need  :(
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 01:14:14 PM
2 Macdonell is unavailable the weekend I need  :(
They haven't opened up 2016 yet.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
They haven't opened up 2016 yet.
They do have Junior Suits available, just not standard rooms. Even at $3850 HKD for 2 nights in a standard room it's not cheaper than the Butterfly on Wellington.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
Rooms are $100/night via the link I posted earlier.  They just don't have 2016 available yet via Agoda.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 28, 2015, 01:22:54 PM
Rooms are $100/night via the link I posted earlier.  They just don't have 2016 available yet via Agoda.
Ah, thanks for clarifying. In that case it's a great option, I'll just have to wait a bit. I don't plan on booking hotels anyway until after I speak to my guy there and get back from Europe.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: AJK on May 28, 2015, 01:24:41 PM
I don't know what the Shangri-la costs, but given the view, the quality of the rooms, and the location, it's gonna be hard to beat for KZ shabbas.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 01:48:00 PM
I don't know what the Shangri-la costs, but given the view, the quality of the rooms, and the location, it's gonna be hard to beat for KZ shabbas.

and the price of kz meals  $600 for two ppl!  :-\ (900 if you want shalosh seudas- unless you're chabad ;))
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 28, 2015, 02:02:21 PM
and the price of kz meals  $600 for two ppl!  :-\ (900 if you want shalosh seudas- unless you're chabad ;))
It's not $150 per meal, it's $150 for the whole shabbos. All 3 meals.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 28, 2015, 02:03:19 PM
It's not $150 per meal, it's $150 for the whole shabbos. All 3 meals.

and now we have the answer! look upthread. we were not sure. thanks for clarifying
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 29, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
and the price of kz meals  $600 for two ppl!  :-\ (900 if you want shalosh seudas- unless you're chabad ;))
Very good food. Worth the money for the meals and company.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 29, 2015, 09:44:39 AM
Very good food. Worth the money for the meals and company.
+1 One of our best shabbos experiences abroad
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 29, 2015, 09:53:09 AM
+1 One of our best shabbos experiences abroad
How does it compare to Venice?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 29, 2015, 11:02:55 AM
How does it compare to Venice?
completely different crowd. youre basically shmoozing with lonely businessman the whole seuda ime
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
Had a great experience at Chabad of HKI as well.
Amazing food, interesting local crowd.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 29, 2015, 11:15:03 AM
Had a great experience at Chabad of HKI as well.
Amazing food, interesting local crowd.
Seems that Chabad on HKI is more of your typical Chabad shabbos experience, with free or nearly free meals and locals.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2015, 11:22:05 AM
Seems that Chabad on HKI is more of your typical Chabad shabbos experience, with free or nearly free meals and locals.
By far the best food I've had at Chabad.  Also Friday night is in the Rabbi's house.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: mordylazar on May 29, 2015, 11:48:54 AM
I was planning a trip around my exams and i have the second week in August free. Has anyone gone to HK in this time period? I see that its hot typhoon weather which is a bit of a turn-off  :-\
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 29, 2015, 12:41:23 PM
By far the best food I've had at Chabad.  Also Friday night is in the Rabbi's house.

and the Sheraton is in that area?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 29, 2015, 01:04:29 PM
and the Sheraton is in that area?
No. That's why we were discussing 2 McDonnell and the Butterfly hotels (or walking to the GH).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on May 29, 2015, 01:05:22 PM
No. That's why we were discussing 2 McDonnell and the Butterfly hotels (or walking to the GH).

Got it. was confused for a minute. ok thanks
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on May 30, 2015, 04:29:15 PM
I was planning a trip around my exams and i have the second week in August free. Has anyone gone to HK in this time period? I see that its hot typhoon weather which is a bit of a turn-off  :-\
We went in the second week of August-it was def. HOT and HUMID!!! but we put that in mind and went on to have a great time!! Even if they forecast rain it usually does not last too long-unless you get stuck in a typhoon of course-but then again should we never visit miami because we may get stuck in a hurricane... :D
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on May 31, 2015, 01:13:56 AM
What point options within walking distance to Kehilat Zion besides the IC. (It's not clear in the wiki if the others are close by foot or by train)
Do I need a special visa to go to HKG or do they just stamp it at the airport? What about to go to Shenzhen?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 31, 2015, 01:53:44 AM
What point options within walking distance to Kehilat Zion besides the IC. (It's not clear in the wiki if the others are close by foot or by train)
Do I need a special visa to go to HKG or do they just stamp it at the airport? What about to go to Shenzhen?
There's a Sheraton and Hyatt Regency. You don't need a visa for HK but do need for Shenzhen.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 31, 2015, 09:42:44 AM
What point options within walking distance to Kehilat Zion besides the IC. (It's not clear in the wiki if the others are close by foot or by train)
Do I need a special visa to go to HKG or do they just stamp it at the airport? What about to go to Shenzhen?
Shangri La is next door.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 31, 2015, 10:37:17 AM
Shangri La is next door.
How to get Golden Circle (or whatever it is called) point?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on May 31, 2015, 12:07:10 PM
Shangri La is next door.
Shangri-la is points?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 31, 2015, 09:46:59 PM
How to get Golden Circle (or whatever it is called) point?
Shangri-la is points?
Shangri-la is points?
I'm not familiar with the program. Just know people use it as an option.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on June 02, 2015, 03:12:36 PM
If arriving to HKG on Thu at 2pm with 2 kids. Should I leave to CNX Sunday morning at 10:35a or evening at 5:15p? (will be in CNX until Thu morning)

Am flight with Thai AirAsia
Pm flight with HongKong Express
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2015, 03:14:30 PM
Monday morning.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 02, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
Monday morning.
So they can go to the buffet?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 02, 2015, 03:17:22 PM
So they can go to the buffet?
That and it's more than enough time to explore both cities.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 02, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
That and it's more than enough time to explore both cities.
The buffet opens at what time on Sunday?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 02, 2015, 03:20:17 PM
The buffet opens at what time on Sunday?

6pm to 10pm

http://www.jcc.org.hk/documents/Sunday%20BBQ%20August%202012.pdf
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 02, 2015, 03:28:02 PM
6pm to 10pm

http://www.jcc.org.hk/documents/Sunday%20BBQ%20August%202012.pdf
Thanks. Looks like I'm missing it, too, but it's a BBQ, so I don't really care.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 02, 2015, 03:46:22 PM
Thanks. Looks like I'm missing it, too, but it's a BBQ, so I don't really care.
It's ALOT more than a bbq-I was glad that I stayed for it (but then again-I am very into my food ;D)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 02, 2015, 03:50:24 PM
It's ALOT more than a bbq-I was glad that I stayed for it (but then again-I am very into my food ;D)
So am I (into food), but I'm also vegetarian. How were the pareve options?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on June 02, 2015, 03:51:17 PM
Monday morning.
That and it's more than enough time to explore both cities.
Ok thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 02, 2015, 05:15:46 PM
So am I (into food), but I'm also vegetarian.
that's an oxymoron-just kidding! ;D ;D
How were the pareve options?
I dont remember exactly, but there was sushi, some pastas, sides like fries etc., grilled veggies, cakes, desserts,-but in truth I guess the main focus really is the meat and chicken dishes so.....not sure in this case.....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 02, 2015, 05:18:16 PM
that's an oxymoron-just kidding! ;D ;DI dont remember exactly, but there was sushi, some pastas, sides like fries etc., grilled veggies, cakes, desserts,-but in truth I guess the main focus really is the meat and chicken dishes so.....not sure in this case.....
Thanks. Like I said, I'll be missing it, but the price for the buffet probably only makes sense if you eat the meat. I'd need to eat a whole sushi boat to come close to making it worth it for me.  :D
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: shoobi on June 02, 2015, 09:26:56 PM
Trying to plan a Hong Kong trip with an infant (and wife), want to fly biz or 1st. What are my best options from NYC? have 60K UR, 150K Amex, 53K Citi TY, 45K SPG, and 80K AA for me and 50K AA for wife.tr
Or should I post this in a different thread?
Also trying to work in a stopover in Israel but seems not doable because I only have enough miles for one-way awards...
Ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on June 02, 2015, 09:30:39 PM
Trying to plan a Hong Kong trip with an infant (and wife), want to fly biz or 1st. What are my best options from NYC? have 60K UR, 150K Amex, 53K Citi TY, 45K SPG, and 80K AA for me and 50K AA for wife.tr
Or should I post this in a different thread?
Also trying to work in a stopover in Israel but seems not doable because I only have enough miles for one-way awards...
Ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Yes its not for this thread. But IMO id sell UR and Amex and buy some AA for CX.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on June 02, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
You have enough Amex for 2 pax OW in J with AC and the infant is only $100. I would try to get some more UR and use KE the other way it's 62.5k/80k J/F and only 10% of the miles for the infant.

Also an idea, use AA for one pax and BA for the other. It's pretty expensive with devalue, but it's better then paying 10% of full fare J/F.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: shoobi on June 03, 2015, 11:16:44 AM
You have enough Amex for 2 pax OW in J with AC and the infant is only $100. I would try to get some more UR and use KE the other way it's 62.5k/80k J/F and only 10% of the miles for the infant.

Also an idea, use AA for one pax and BA for the other. It's pretty expensive with devalue, but it's better then paying 10% of full fare J/F.

what is "pax"?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 03, 2015, 11:17:27 AM
what is "pax"?
Passenger.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 05, 2015, 03:18:33 AM
Whats the cheapest way HKG to CNX?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 07, 2015, 03:19:37 PM
What's there to do in Shenzen ?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 07, 2015, 05:41:20 PM
shop
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 07, 2015, 05:48:16 PM
Anything more than ladies/night market that's worth going for?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 07, 2015, 07:38:48 PM
Anything more than ladies/night market that's worth going for?

Look at the shenzhen master thread
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 08, 2015, 08:00:59 AM
How's the Sheraton next to kz with upgrading plats to suites?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 08, 2015, 08:39:55 AM
How's the Sheraton next to kz with upgrading plats to suites?
If they do not upgrade don't go. The standard rooms are tiny.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 08, 2015, 10:45:12 AM
If they do not upgrade don't go. The standard rooms are tiny.
The only reason I'd be interested in going there is because it's a shabbos-friendly hotel near KZ. Also often you don't know if they'll upgrade you before check-in and if they don't and you cancel at that point you'll be charged for a night anyway.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 08, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
How's the Sheraton next to kz with upgrading plats to suites?
upgraded me beforehand after requesting one
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 08, 2015, 03:10:01 PM
Dan, still waiting for your TR....
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 01:10:07 PM
Last october i got a suit and three shirts at sams. Everything fits me perfect and is still in great shirt. The shirts i love the material and the fit, would definitely get more next time i am there. The suit as well, the fit is great and i cant complain. The suit was around 450$ and shirts were around $50. The most i ever spent on shirts but i would gladly buy more anytime i go back.

anyone else have any experiences  with buying suits and shirts? Sams seems well reviewed tho im trying to see if theres any other ones.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 15, 2015, 01:10:45 PM
Go to Thailand. It is much cheaper there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 02:07:19 PM
Go to Thailand. It is much cheaper there.

I dont know if i will have enough time. I am landing Wednesday AM and leaving the following tuesday AM. what would you suggest? and how far is Thailand?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 15, 2015, 02:12:24 PM
Not worth it just for suits.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 02:14:36 PM
Not worth it just for suits.

is it worth going anywhere else or should i stay in hong kong the whole time? Ill have 6 full days.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 15, 2015, 02:16:53 PM
is it worth going anywhere else or should i stay in hong kong the whole time? Ill have 6 full days.
IMHO, six days would be a lot.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 15, 2015, 02:19:59 PM
IMHO, six days would be a lot.
+1
If you have 6 days do Thailand.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 02:33:36 PM
+1
If you have 6 days do Thailand.

issue is that i have shabbos in between. I am landing wed am and leaving tuesday AM. do i go straight to Thailand and then come back friday afternoon to HK? 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 15, 2015, 02:35:47 PM
Shabbos in CNX is supposed to be very nice. I think Rots5 and morgs did it. Check their TRs. I think it's one of the links in the wiki.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 02:41:38 PM
Shabbos in CNX is supposed to be very nice. I think Rots5 and morgs did it. Check their TRs. I think it's one of the links in the wiki.

so should i be in hong kong wed and thurs, then head friday morning to CNX until monday? would that make scenes? what is my cheapest flight options.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 15, 2015, 02:43:38 PM
What's your current flight schedule? I found Skyscanner to have the cheapest tix if it's too late to get them included in your existing reservations.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 03:00:21 PM
What's your current flight schedule? I found Skyscanner to have the cheapest tix if it's too late to get them included in your existing reservations.

I prob cant. i got the tix for 380 on etihad.

whats the best points options from HKG to CNX?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 15, 2015, 03:15:46 PM
Must read for anyone looking to get custom suits. Article. (http://flyanddine.boardingarea.com/greatest-hits-7-rules-for-buying-cheap-custom-suits-while-traveling/)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 03:18:37 PM
Must read for anyone looking to get custom suits. Article. (http://flyanddine.boardingarea.com/greatest-hits-7-rules-for-buying-cheap-custom-suits-while-traveling/)

lol saw that. typical tourist stuff. amex all the way for this stuff.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 15, 2015, 03:40:33 PM
I prob cant. i got the tix for 380 on etihad.

whats the best points options from HKG to CNX?
Leaving on tues from hkg?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 03:44:07 PM
Leaving on tues from hkg?

landing wed morning. at that point I will have stopped in Dubai already so I think I should stay in hong kong till friday and then come back monday afternoon. does that make scence or will I miss everything both in hong kong and CNX?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avadah on June 15, 2015, 03:46:45 PM
Who are you traveling with? How aggressive can you be with the traveling? What are you looking to do in Thailand cnx or hkt?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 15, 2015, 05:04:03 PM
landing wed morning. at that point I will have stopped in Dubai already so I think I should stay in hong kong till friday and then come back monday afternoon. does that make scence or will I miss everything both in hong kong and CNX?
6 days in HKG definitely too long, try going to cnx for Shabbos (which is awesome)Thursday afternoon till sunday/monday (depending if you want to see the sunday night market in cnx vs. the JCC bbq in HKG on Sunday night)
BTW I used sam's tailor to have a suit and 2 shirts mad in HKG-my original fitting was Thursday night, Friday morning I came back for a fitting of the shell, on MS they delivered the suit to my hotel and I tried it on there(if it was perfect I would have just kept it, but...), on Sunday morning (early) I went back for another fitting and then they shipped it to the US free of charge. The overall quality is fantastic and while it is slightly more pricey($400 for the suit +2 shirts) than other tailors, I felt it was worth it. Tell him your price range and he will work with you (Sam). My friend had a suit made in cnx for $150 but you could not even compare the quality.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 15, 2015, 05:10:35 PM
Maybe just go all the way to CNX and do HKG fully, a different time.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 05:29:29 PM
6 days in HKG definitely too long, try going to cnx for Shabbos (which is awesome)Thursday afternoon till sunday/monday (depending if you want to see the sunday night market in cnx vs. the JCC bbq in HKG on Sunday night)
BTW I used sam's tailor to have a suit and 2 shirts mad in HKG-my original fitting was Thursday night, Friday morning I came back for a fitting of the shell, on MS they delivered the suit to my hotel and I tried it on there(if it was perfect I would have just kept it, but...), on Sunday morning (early) I went back for another fitting and then they shipped it to the US free of charge. The overall quality is fantastic and while it is slightly more pricey($400 for the suit +2 shirts) than other tailors, I felt it was worth it. Tell him your price range and he will work with you (Sam). My friend had a suit made in cnx for $150 but you could not even compare the quality.

Whats my best option for flights to CNX? I have UR points if that helps. Maybe it would make scence to go thursday evening till  sunday afternoon.

as for the tailor, there is alot of reviews, both good and bad about sams (on FT and others). I prob wont do a suit, only shirts. thanks for the review tho.

Maybe just go all the way to CNX and do HKG fully, a different time.

I dont see myself being back on this side of the world for a while. want to at least get two days in here.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 15, 2015, 05:37:04 PM
BA for CX to CNX.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 05:38:55 PM
according to AJK, you can use BA for flight from HKG to CNX. anyone know what partner i can use?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=30766.msg546659#msg546659
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2015, 05:40:09 PM
CX
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
BA for CX to CNX.
CX

Thanks all for your help.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 08:23:12 PM
How do I order kosher food in the lounge and how can I get in?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 15, 2015, 08:58:47 PM
How do I order kosher food in the lounge and how can I get in?
Fly in F.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 15, 2015, 10:24:35 PM
Fly in F.

Who do I contact to order.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 15, 2015, 10:33:52 PM

Who do I contact to order.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2630.msg888863#msg888863
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 16, 2015, 10:20:46 AM
CX

no availability... what are my chances of something opening up?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 16, 2015, 10:33:54 AM
no availability... what are my chances of something opening up?
There a lot better closer to departure.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 23, 2015, 11:48:23 AM
How do I order kosher food in the lounge and how can I get in?

can someone tell me which lounge I can order kosher food to? or is it any?

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/travel-information/airport/hong-kong-international-airport/the-wing.html

I am flying Etihad. will I be in the correct terminal? 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 23, 2015, 12:18:31 PM
can someone tell me which lounge I can order kosher food to? or is it any?

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/travel-information/airport/hong-kong-international-airport/the-wing.html

I am flying Etihad. will I be in the correct terminal?
how will you get in?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 23, 2015, 01:28:33 PM
how will you get in?

working on that. first i need to know where i need to get into.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 23, 2015, 01:29:52 PM
working on that. first i need to know where i need to get into.
Likely it would be  The Wing.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 23, 2015, 02:06:31 PM
Likely it would be  The Wing.
Although The Pier is brand new, so maybe they offer kosher food as well.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 23, 2015, 03:28:31 PM
Thanks. Just an update, I booked IC Stanford for 187/night. Got upgraded to a full harbor view premier room (ambass status). Thanks everyone for all your tips.

Can someone that stayed there advise me as to shabbos in the hotel? electronic doors? low floors? stairs?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 24, 2015, 07:15:50 AM
Thanks. Just an update, I booked IC Stanford for 187/night. Got upgraded to a full harbor view premier room (ambass status). Thanks everyone for all your tips.

Can someone that stayed there advise me as to shabbos in the hotel? electronic doors? low floors? stairs?
I got a room on around the 5th floor, IIRC there are doors in the front that are not electric-when you walk into the lobby immediatley turn right and begin walking up the stairs towards the rest. and when you get to the top of those stairs there is a door on your right that leads to the stairwell to go up to the rooms-you can ask at the front desk for them to open your room (they know all about shabbos there) or you can duct tape/magnet the doorpost
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 24, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
I got a room on around the 5th floor, IIRC there are doors in the front that are not electric-when you walk into the lobby immediatley turn right and begin walking up the stairs towards the rest. and when you get to the top of those stairs there is a door on your right that leads to the stairwell to go up to the rooms-you can ask at the front desk for them to open your room (they know all about shabbos there) or you can duct tape/magnet the doorpost

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 24, 2015, 11:39:43 AM
has anyone been to Lantau island? anything to do there?

also, is it worth taking a tour? or rather go alone.

http://www.splendid.hk/en/tour_details.php?scid=6&id=33
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 24, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
has anyone been to Lantau island? anything to do there?

also, is it worth taking a tour? or rather go alone.

http://www.splendid.hk/en/tour_details.php?scid=6&id=33
dont go. unless you are in hk for more than 4 days
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 24, 2015, 12:03:37 PM
dont go. unless you are in hk for more than 4 days

to the island or on the tour?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 24, 2015, 12:16:14 PM
to the island or on the tour?
To the island. The highlight of your trip will be the shabbat at kz, walking down the streets of Kowloon is an experience,.
See the Kowloon Park. Go to some high end invite only clubs.
TThe best thing about Hong Kong is the fact that it's Hong Kong. The ambiance. The skyline. The hotels. The food. The bars.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 24, 2015, 02:14:37 PM
To the island. The highlight of your trip will be the shabbat at kz, walking down the streets of Kowloon is an experience,.
See the Kowloon Park. Go to some high end invite only clubs.
TThe best thing about Hong Kong is the fact that it's Hong Kong. The ambiance. The skyline. The hotels. The food. The bars.

thanks. whats the best place to change money? ( not specifically the best but not getting ripped off)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 24, 2015, 02:37:05 PM
thanks. whats the best place to change money? ( not specifically the best but not getting ripped off)
Why not just take out of an ATM? Usually the best official rates.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 24, 2015, 04:25:17 PM
has anyone been to Lantau island? anything to do there?

also, is it worth taking a tour? or rather go alone.

http://www.splendid.hk/en/tour_details.php?scid=6&id=33
I went there-you take the subway to the last stop on the disneyland line and you get on the glass bottom (or non)cable car which takes you over to this area called Latau Island-If you are in HKG for enough time that you already saw the diff. markets and other local attractions then deff. go for it...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 24, 2015, 11:14:52 PM
thanks. whats the best place to change money? ( not specifically the best but not getting ripped off)
Not by the borders or the mtr (subway). Thew are many small stores that has the best rates or be safe and go a bank.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 24, 2015, 11:26:08 PM
Not by the borders or the mtr (subway). Thew are many small stores that has the best rates or be safe and go a bank.
Is there a black market for changing USD like in Argentina?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 24, 2015, 11:27:50 PM
Is there a black market for changing USD like in Argentina?
Yes, but the rates are very close to the official rate, so it is not always worth it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: morgs on June 25, 2015, 07:35:36 AM
thanks. whats the best place to change money? ( not specifically the best but not getting ripped off)
The people from KHZ told me that the money changer that is right outside the mall where KHZ is located in is trustworthy and I used them w/o any problems
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 25, 2015, 10:42:07 AM
The people from KHZ told me that the money changer that is right outside the mall where KHZ is located in is trustworthy and I used them w/o any problems

thanks. if i use my cc will i get the best rate? I will still need some cash for taxi's and chatchkas.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 25, 2015, 10:44:11 AM
thanks. if i use my cc will i get the best rate? I will still need some cash for taxi's and chatchkas.
Will that not incur a CA fee?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 25, 2015, 12:11:35 PM
Will that not incur a CA fee?
I think he meant instead of cash, not to withdraw cash.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 21, 2015, 06:15:08 AM
How long is the ferry ride from Hong Kong to Macau?

Is the Sheraton in Kowloon still "shabbos friendly"?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: LuxJeru on July 21, 2015, 08:24:18 AM
How long is the ferry ride from Hong Kong to Macau?

Is the Sheraton in Kowloon still "shabbos friendly"?

About Hour for the ferry, depends on the water.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 21, 2015, 08:48:20 AM
About Hour for the ferry, depends on the water.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 21, 2015, 09:49:43 AM
About Hour for the ferry, depends on the water.

Keep in mind passport control which can take some time
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on July 30, 2015, 03:20:20 PM
Is it worth $320 for one night at the W or is the Interconti for $250 a better deal? Its just for one night.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on July 31, 2015, 05:53:58 PM
if my flight stops in YVR and I want to get off there and not continue
would I need a VISA to get on the flight to begin with ?
don't know which thread to post
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 31, 2015, 05:56:07 PM
if my flight stops in YVR and I want to get off there and not continue
would I need a VISA to get on the flight to begin with ?
don't know which thread to post

You don't need a visa for HKG so no.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on July 31, 2015, 06:09:28 PM
You don't need a visa for HKG so no.

I have a flight to HKG via YVR and going off in YVR
what problems may I incur at boarding in JFK ? would they deny me ?
anyone ever did this ?
and would they even refund me the difference in miles ?
should I stay mum about what I am doing ?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 31, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
I have a flight to HKG via YVR and going off in YVR
what problems may I incur at boarding in JFK ? would they deny me ?
anyone ever did this ?
and would they even refund me the difference in miles ?
should I stay mum about what I am doing ?
Why would you pay for a more expensive flight to Hong Kong and get off in Vancouver?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 31, 2015, 06:14:42 PM
I have a flight to HKG via YVR and going off in YVR
what problems may I incur at boarding in JFK ? would they deny me ?
anyone ever did this ?
and would they even refund me the difference in miles ?
should I stay mum about what I am doing ?

You just asked this question two posts up. No need to ask it again.

Plus my answer stands.

You don't need a visa for HKG so no.

Will have no issues.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on July 31, 2015, 06:22:54 PM
Why would you pay for a more expensive flight to Hong Kong and get off in Vancouver?

only thing available for the wife

anyone know if I would be able to get back the mileage difference.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 31, 2015, 06:48:21 PM
only thing available for the wife

anyone know if I would be able to get back the mileage difference.

If the flight to HKG with the stopover is available it should be available to just YVR as well.

Make sure you have the right flight, not all flights stop in YVR and you can be looking at a nonstop one.

But no, if you start travel and just get off in YVR you won't get back the miles and it would have scanned in to HKG
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2015, 07:06:25 PM
CX has lots of marrieg segment flight.
Should be breakable though with AA.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on July 31, 2015, 07:13:08 PM
CX has lots of marrieg segment flight.
Should be breakable though with AA.
I ended up cancelling it because was too nervous
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Matovu on July 31, 2015, 07:13:43 PM
CX has lots of marrieg segment flight.
Should be breakable though with AA.
They didnt want to break up
I Huca'd
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mech on August 09, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Does anyone know if it is possible for a U.S. Citizen to get a day visa to get into Shenzen ("for business")? (Not the 72 hr transit visa). My uncle, who goes to Shenzen very often for business told me it's possible but I haven't actually heard anybody being successful doing this...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on August 09, 2015, 03:20:55 PM
whats the best way to get from hong kong to the Cotai strip?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on August 09, 2015, 08:16:42 PM
whats the best way to get from hong kong to the Cotai strip?
Ferry
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on August 10, 2015, 02:54:39 PM
Ferry

turbo jet? do I need a reservation or can i just show up?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on August 10, 2015, 03:05:15 PM
turbo jet? do I need a reservation or can i just show up?
Yes. You can just show up.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on August 10, 2015, 03:12:58 PM
Yes. You can just show up.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mech on August 11, 2015, 12:44:46 AM
Update: Shalom Grill is closed for good.
Can someone please update the wiki, I'm on tapatalk.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 11, 2015, 12:57:25 AM
Update: Shalom Grill is closed for good.
Can someone please update the wiki, I'm on tapatalk.
Well that's disappointing.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 11, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
Update: Shalom Grill is closed for good.
Can someone please update the wiki, I'm on tapatalk.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know when it closed? Wiki Updated.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mech on August 12, 2015, 01:39:23 AM

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know when it closed? Wiki Updated.
I was told a little more than a month ago.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on August 14, 2015, 09:32:33 AM
Update: Shalom Grill is closed for good.
Can someone please update the wiki, I'm on tapatalk.

is the grocery closed also or just the grill?

does anyone know about this place?

http://www.kosheroriginal.com/#!locations/c722
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 14, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
is the grocery closed also or just the grill?

does anyone know about this place?

http://www.kosheroriginal.com/#!locations/c722
It looks like a kosher grocery store, though I've never heard of it before.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mech on August 15, 2015, 02:08:56 PM

is the grocery closed also or just the grill?

does anyone know about this place?

http://www.kosheroriginal.com/#!locations/c722
Only the grill closed. The grocery store there is at the same address (on HK Island) as the one on the website. I don't know anything about he one in Kowloon though.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mech on August 16, 2015, 08:05:33 AM
It doesn't seem like anyone mentioned upthread that the waterside dairy cafe in the JCC has been replaced with a new dairy restaurant called "Seven Zero". I went there twice. Was very impressed. Very nice set up and great food. Delicious pizza! (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/16/882e148df7fa6254c816b145bf735be9.jpg)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on August 16, 2015, 11:46:43 AM
Wow. Looks much nicer than before. May have to plan a trip through HKG to finally get the Sunday BBQ and try this.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2015, 11:52:01 AM
Wow. Looks much nicer than before. May have to plan a trip through HKG to finally get the Sunday BBQ and try this.
Fly to HKG for the BBQ and this? Seriously?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 16, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
It doesn't seem like anyone mentioned upthread that the waterside dairy cafe in the JCC has been replaced with a new dairy restaurant called "Seven Zero". I went there twice. Was very impressed. Very nice set up and great food. Delicious pizza! (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/16/882e148df7fa6254c816b145bf735be9.jpg)
Looking forward to trying it! Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 16, 2015, 10:21:04 PM
Fly to HKG for the BBQ and this? Seriously?

You're one to talk????
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2015, 10:21:45 PM
Touché
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 16, 2015, 10:25:02 PM
Update: Shalom Grill is closed for good.
Can someone please update the wiki, I'm on tapatalk.

Won't be missed. That food was dreadful
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on August 17, 2015, 08:54:24 AM
Fly to HKG for the BBQ and this? Seriously?
Not just for that, no. When planning a different trip, to make a stop through HKG...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on August 28, 2015, 12:07:37 PM
Anyone know about this rabbi that delivers food?

Rabbi Mendy Ajzenszmidt <rabbi@jewishlantau.com>


Each adult meal we serve comes with 1 main, 2 side dishes and a salad. Each kids meal comes with 1 main and 1 side dish.

For main dish we offer a choice of shnitzel, grilled chicken breast, baked salmon or Nasi Goreng Balinese rice. For Nasi Goreng (chicken fried rice) add only one more side.

For side dish we offer rice, fries or stir fry.

We charge $200HK for Adult meal, $100HKD for kids meal and $100HKD for the delivery.
For breakfast we can make either egg (scrambled, omelette, boiled or egg salad) or tuna, with salad and potato wedges on the side.

The cost for breakfast is $150HKD for adults and $90HKD for kids. $100HKD for delivery.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 28, 2015, 12:10:59 PM
Anyone know about this rabbi that delivers food?

Rabbi Mendy Ajzenszmidt <rabbi@jewishlantau.com>


Each adult meal we serve comes with 1 main, 2 side dishes and a salad. Each kids meal comes with 1 main and 1 side dish.

For main dish we offer a choice of shnitzel, grilled chicken breast, baked salmon or Nasi Goreng Balinese rice. For Nasi Goreng (chicken fried rice) add only one more side.

For side dish we offer rice, fries or stir fry.

We charge $200HK for Adult meal, $100HKD for kids meal and $100HKD for the delivery.
For breakfast we can make either egg (scrambled, omelette, boiled or egg salad) or tuna, with salad and potato wedges on the side.

The cost for breakfast is $150HKD for adults and $90HKD for kids. $100HKD for delivery.
Like delivers to the airport?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on August 28, 2015, 12:15:29 PM
Like delivers to the airport?

yes and to hotels or the like.

anyone know about him?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 28, 2015, 12:19:08 PM
yes and to hotels or the like.

anyone know about him?
He's an official shliach:
http://www.chabad.org/centers/default_cdo/aid/980636/jewish/Chabad-Lantau.htm
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 28, 2015, 12:25:03 PM
He's an official shliach:
http://www.chabad.org/centers/default_cdo/aid/980636/jewish/Chabad-Lantau.htm
So 3 official Chabad Houses in HKG. Not bad! I understand the ones on HKI and Kowloon, but Discovery Bay (Lantau), really?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on August 28, 2015, 05:55:59 PM
Sound from a lot of people that HKG is just a chinese manhattan and I should save my time and go elsewhere.

As of now planning on thu afternoon-sun morning in HKG and then sun-thu morning in CNX.

Should I skip HKG and instead go somewhere else? Bali? Vietnam?

(going with 2 toddlers)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 29, 2015, 09:04:28 PM
Sound from a lot of people that HKG is just a chinese manhattan and I should save my time and go elsewhere.

As of now planning on thu afternoon-sun morning in HKG and then sun-thu morning in CNX.

Should I skip HKG and instead go somewhere else? Bali? Vietnam?

(going with 2 toddlers)

A lot more to do in Singapore but Shabbos in HKG is nicer
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on August 30, 2015, 12:26:23 AM
Personally i really liked Shabbat in SIN over HKG. I don't think you should make yourself crazy to move around flights. You will have a good time in HKG.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 30, 2015, 12:30:04 AM
Personally i really liked Shabbat in SIN over HKG.
Where were you in HKG and what didn't you like? And what did you like about SIN for shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on August 30, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
Where were you in HKG and what didn't you like?
Stayed at TST and went to KZ. I know i need to try it out on the other side. I didn't have any issues and actually enjoyed it, but i did think SIN was nicer.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 30, 2015, 03:15:57 AM
im on the hkg>sin side as far as shabbos
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on September 03, 2015, 12:15:56 PM
I know some guys who stayed at the IC GS as they are supposedly a shabbos friendly hotel.
How about the other IC in Kowloon, has anyone stayed there on shabbos? Is it doable? I haven't found anyone report on that here.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on September 03, 2015, 12:21:24 PM
I know some guys who stayed at the IC GS as they are supposedly a shabbos friendly hotel.
How about the other IC in Kowloon, has anyone stayed there on shabbos? Is it doable? I haven't found anyone report on that here.

I am at the IC GS now. Very shabbs friendly. Manual doors and right near KZ. A friend of mine stayed in the other IC a few weeks ago and he walked there through the train station to KZ. Said it took about 10 min.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 03, 2015, 12:25:49 PM
I am at the IC GS now. Very shabbs friendly. Manual doors and right near KZ. A friend of mine stayed in the other IC a few weeks ago and he walked there through the train station to KZ. Said it took about 10 min.
What's the main difference between the 2 ICs besides the location? How come IC GS is a lot cheaper?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on September 03, 2015, 12:45:12 PM
I am at the IC GS now. Very shabbs friendly. Manual doors and right near KZ. A friend of mine stayed in the other IC a few weeks ago and he walked there through the train station to KZ. Said it took about 10 min.
Is that friend on DDF? I would really like to hear about a shabbos experience there.
What's the main difference between the 2 ICs besides the location? How come IC GS is a lot cheaper?
The IC HK has better views and nicer rooms than the IC GS. I'm just wondering about staying there shabbos. Do the rooms and staircases have motion sensors, etc.?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on September 03, 2015, 12:48:59 PM
What's the main difference between the 2 ICs besides the location? How come IC GS is a lot cheaper?

I've been to the IC HKG for Shabbos and there were no issues (3 years ago)

Def worth paying extra for a room with a view as the views there are breathtaking
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on September 03, 2015, 12:50:40 PM
Are the stairs accessible? How about hard keys (not a deal breaker)?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 03, 2015, 01:04:45 PM
I've been to the IC HKG for Shabbos and there were no issues (3 years ago)

Def worth paying extra for a room with a view as the views there are breathtaking
Can't you just use a free night cert from opening the CC?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 03, 2015, 08:52:33 PM
Could someone give me a bit of a explanation what's so special Shabbos in HKG.
Is it worth doing kz show season when 200 people fill that tiny place?
Debating on Guangzhou or hkg for Shabbos.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on September 03, 2015, 09:04:02 PM
Could someone give me a bit of a explanation what's so special Shabbos in HKG.
Is it worth doing kz show season when 200 people fill that tiny place?
Debating on Guangzhou or hkg for Shabbos.
When is that "Show Season" you're referring too?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on September 03, 2015, 09:07:39 PM
When is that "Show Season" you're referring too?
There are lot of shows but I'm referring to October and April
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on September 04, 2015, 01:10:04 AM
There are lot of shows but I'm referring to October and April
If you're going to the mega, lighting or electronics shows,  kz is not just good for the food, it's good  for networking. I was there several times with 200 people,  it's still amazing.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on September 04, 2015, 02:16:01 AM
If you're going to the mega, lighting or electronics shows,  kz is not just good for the food, it's good  for networking. I was there several times with 200 people,  it's still amazing.

I'm here for shabbos. Looking forward!

What's the main difference between the 2 ICs besides the location? How come IC GS is a lot cheaper?

Regular IC is nicer. I have a harbor view in the GS and it's fine for me and about  $100 a nite cheaper or so 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on September 18, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
Mini TR

I booked on Etihad during the glitch last December. That’s 9 months ago! We flew JFK-AUH-HKG. I parked at the Radisson hotel near JFK for $92 for 8 days. We landed in HKG at 9 am after a full day stop in AUH. Took a taxi straight to the Intercontinental Grand Stanford Hotel. As an ambassador member I got an upgrade to a Harbor View room which was great. The room itself was not so big but was decent enough for $178 a night. The hotel checked us in at 11. At around 1 we headed to the star ferry to Hong Kong Island. After 10 minutes we docked and took a taxi to the mid levels to the JCC for lunch. The JCC takes security VERY seriously and they held us for about 10-15 minutes, asking us questions on who we know, where we daven in the states, and going over our ID’s multiple times. There is also a metal detector that you need to go through. The food at the JCC was simply amazing. I posted some pictures below.
Next stop was the ladies market. If you want some decent knockoffs, you need to look harder than just browsing. Once people saw we were interested in buying, belts, handbags and watches started appearing from all sides. In the end we didn’t buy anything at that time because we wanted to check out other markets. Friday we took a tour from Greyline tours to the peak, Aberdeen fishing village, stanly market, and the jewelry factory. http://www.grayline.com.hk/hk/101AI-SK.html The cost was around $60 a person and we felt it was worth it. The tour guide had a lot of interesting facts about all the places we visited and it was a really hot day so that air conditioned bus was really needed. At stanly market we got a few handbags. Channel, Louis Viton, for about $30 each.
After the tour we headed to sams tailor. Sam’s is one of the more well known tailors in hong kong. I rebuffed about a dozen guys asking me in the street if I wanted to ‘make suit’. Sam immediately  knew I was Jewish and asked me what time candle lighting was. I made 2 shirts for $60 each. Here was the issue. I got these on Friday and I was leaving on Monday morning. Therefore he said he would send it to my hotel and if there was an issue in size I should come back Monday and he could mail it back to the US. There was an issue in the end and I did not have the time to go back. Furthermore, on their site it says they ARE open on Sunday (only for 2 hours). Had I known I would have for sure went back. Instead I just used my amex. ;)

For Shabbos we davened and ate at KZ. It was good food and good company. One good thing about the hotels in hong kong is they don’t have automatic doors but rather people opening the door for you. We checked out the Shangri La and the other Intercontinental. Both are really really nice and if you can swing the price I would recommend both those.

Spent most of sunday taking care of some business that needed attending to. Sunday nite we went back to the JCC for the BBQ. There was more then an abundance of food and i will post pictures when I can. Deff worth going to. We also stopped at the kosher market for some items. The market had a decent selection of sliced meats, cheese, and other goodies. Prices were what can be expected for mid Asia but not outrageous.
Next up, Macua.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on September 18, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
I really enjoyed Stanley and Arberdeen when i was there my first time. Wish i had more time to actually go around those areas. Completely different than what you usually see in Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 18, 2015, 01:31:14 PM
Good to know about Stanley and Arberdeen. I'll have to check them out when I go.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on September 18, 2015, 01:39:21 PM
I really enjoyed Stanley and Arberdeen when i was there my first time. Wish i had more time to actually go around those areas. Completely different than what you usually see in Hong Kong.

agreed. Interesting to see other parts of hong kong then the usual.
Good to know about Stanley and Arberdeen. I'll have to check them out when I go.

although you can take a taxi to all these places, I found it VERY beneficial to take a tour. they take you door to door and its really interesting.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on September 18, 2015, 01:40:00 PM
I went on the Big Bus tour, but was not too happy with them.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on September 18, 2015, 01:40:00 PM
I did that tour from Greyline. The last stop before they start the tour is on the side of HR TST @840. I thought Aberdeen and Stanley Market were intresting and the jewelry thing was a complete waist of time but they do it before Stanley so I couldn't ditch the tour then
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 18, 2015, 01:40:46 PM
agreed. Interesting to see other parts of hong kong then the usual.
although you can take a taxi to all these places, I found it VERY beneficial to take a tour. they take you door to door and its really interesting.
I may consider the tour as well, though in the winter I'm not worried about it being hot.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 18, 2015, 01:41:38 PM
I did that tour from Greyline. The last stop before they start the tour is on the side of HR TST @840. I thought Aberdeen and Stanley Market were intresting and the jewelry thing was a complete waist of time but they do it before Stanley so I couldn't ditch the tour then
So are you saying you picked up the tour at/near the HR TST instead of starting on HKI?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on September 18, 2015, 01:46:11 PM
So are you saying you picked up the tour at/near the HR TST instead of starting on HKI?
they usually pickup at the hotels I think they start at 7:30-8 and there last stop is @ HR TST. If you daven @ KZ you can walk 2 blocks to HR TST...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 18, 2015, 01:58:18 PM
they usually pickup at the hotels I think they start at 7:30-8 and there last stop is @ HR TST. If you daven @ KZ you can walk 2 blocks to HR TST...
Good to know. Thanks!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on September 18, 2015, 02:09:45 PM
Good to know. Thanks!
I personally stayed there I davened and met my wife and kid downstairs
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 03:11:45 PM
I'm still planning my Hong Kong and Macau [portion of my] trip.   I just noticed the St. Regis Macau is opening on 12/17/15 and is a cat 5 (12k or 6k+$110) vs the Sheraton's cat 4 (10k or 5k+$75). Only catch is C&P isn't available for Saturday nights (at least when I'm going).

I'm landing in HKG at 8:50p on Wed night and leaving 4:30p on Sunday afternoon.

Which option below do you think is better in terms of itinerary (I listed the cpp values below)?

A) Land in HKG on Wed night, stay at HR TST (free night), Thrusday morning to go Macau, stay at St. Regis with C+P (a value of 3.3cpp), stay at Sheraton HKG Friday night, and back to HR TST (another free night) for Saturday night

B) Land in HKG Wed night, stay at HR TST  Wed and Thursday nights (2 free nights), Sheraton HKG Friday night, and Sheraton Macau Saturday night with C+P (a value of 2.34cpp), before heading back to HKG directly for a 4:20pm flight.

C) Nearly identical to B above, but stay at the St. Regis instead and spend the full 12k (a value of 4.1cpp).

Also keep in mind I don't want to gamble that much, just tour around Macau and maybe see some of the casinos to compare them to their Las Vegas cousins.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2015, 03:19:11 PM
Aside from the show we saw, I didn't find Macau very compelling.
Just a lot of heavy smoke filled LAS copycat casinos with ultra high minimum bets.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
Aside from the show we saw, I didn't find Macau very compelling.
Just a lot of heavy smoke filled LAS copycat casinos with ultra high minimum bets.
So you'd vote for D) Stay in HKG the whole time and skip Macau entirely?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
Unless the house of dancing water show is up your alley I wouldn't waste time there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 21, 2015, 03:25:56 PM
Option C.

Aside from the show we saw, I didn't find Macau very compelling.
Just a lot of heavy smoke filled LAS copycat casinos with ultra high minimum bets.
I have to disagree, I had a great time in Macau and it also helped pay for my trip ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 21, 2015, 03:29:54 PM
Aside from the show we saw, I didn't find Macau very compelling.
Just a lot of heavy smoke filled LAS copycat casinos with ultra high minimum bets.
i tried to buy a $5 chip as a souvenir but they dont exist, had to buy a $25 one, and even those are scarce
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 21, 2015, 03:30:19 PM
there is great bungee though
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on October 21, 2015, 03:42:48 PM
Option C.
I have to disagree, I had a great time in Macau and it also helped pay for my trip ;)
The minimum bets Blackjack  I've seen (I stayed at the Venetian Macau) were $300HKD ($39USD)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 04:40:11 PM
Unless the house of dancing water show is up your alley I wouldn't waste time there.
Was it worth it? Looks kind of expensive, yet popular.

Option C.
I have to disagree, I had a great time in Macau and it also helped pay for my trip ;)
What did you play?

there is great bungee though
I don't know for sure, but I don't believe I'd be interested in that.

Don't they have anything to do besides the casinos? I mean I've been to Vegas and seen the casinos there. What intrigued me was the Portuguese/Chinese cultural combination.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 21, 2015, 04:57:40 PM
i tried to buy a $5 chip as a souvenir but they dont exist, had to buy a $25 one, and even those are scarce
-1

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Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 21, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
The minimum bets Blackjack  I've seen (I stayed at the Venetian Macau) were $300HKD ($39USD)

The Venetian is expensive, if you want cheaper tables, go to the Galaxy (they had $200HKG blackjack).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 21, 2015, 05:02:58 PM
What did you play?
Blackjack

Quote
Don't they have anything to do besides the casinos? I mean I've been to Vegas and seen the casinos there. What intrigued me was the Portuguese/Chinese cultural combination.
Chinese dealers can be a real PITA when they don't speak English.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 05:05:30 PM
Blackjack
Portuguese/Chinese dealers can be a real PITA when they don't speak English.
I was looking for an excuse to practice my Chinese and Portuguese (having only been to Brazil once). Is just walking around the city center, seeing some of the casinos, and visiting the tower worth the trip?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 21, 2015, 05:08:23 PM
I was looking for an excuse to practice my Chinese and Portuguese (having only been to Brazil once). Is just walking around the city center, seeing some of the casinos, and visiting the tower worth the trip?
IMO yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 05:09:58 PM
IMO yes
Thanks for your opinion. I'll probably do option C) as we discussed.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2015, 05:38:16 PM
I walked around the local areas. Nobody spoke Portuguese, even when I tried offering Boa Tarde or Tudo Bem. I was pretty disappointed in the whole place, though we enjoyed the show.
No point on going for the casinos if you've ever done LAS. Just worse versions of what's there.

/.02
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 05:48:41 PM
I walked around the local areas. Nobody spoke Portuguese, even when I tried offering Boa Tarde or Tudo Bem. I was pretty disappointed in the whole place, though we enjoyed the show.
No point on going for the casinos if you've ever done LAS. Just worse versions of what's there.

/.02
Fair points. That being said, besides going to Victoria Peak and a few of the markets in HKG and a few other activities, what things are there to do that can take up a full day Thu, 2-half days (Fri and Sun), and Sat night? Disneyland isn't my thing, especially since I've been to the one in LA numerous times. Any suggestions (no restrictions in terms of kids, etc)?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
Star Ferry, Glass-bottom cable cars, numerous markets, kosher restaurants, laser show, sneaking onto the W rooftop pool ;)
Takes more time than you think.
Not making any custom clothing?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on October 21, 2015, 06:17:55 PM
I walked around the local areas. Nobody spoke Portuguese, even when I tried offering Boa Tarde or Tudo Bem. I was pretty disappointed in the whole place, though we enjoyed the show.
No point on going for the casinos if you've ever done LAS. Just worse versions of what's there.

/.02

+1
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
Star Ferry, Glass-bottom cable cars, numerous markets, kosher restaurants, laser show, sneaking onto the W rooftop pool ;)
Takes more time than you think.
Not making any custom clothing?
So what you're saying is there's plenty to do if I just stayed in Honk Kong the whole time?

I was thinking of getting a suit made. Everyone seems to go to Sam's Tailor. Have you gotten anything made from him or anyone else? It's usally around USD$300 for a suit?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2015, 07:00:40 PM
I don't think filling that time will be hard, especially with 2 or 3 fittings for custom clothes.

If Macau was compelling it would be different. But its just not very interesting IMHO.

I've had a few kapotas made in HKG, pretty rare for me to be in a suit.
Used Tai Pan for them.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 21, 2015, 07:03:17 PM
I don't think filling that time will be hard, especially with 2 or 3 fittings for custom clothes.

If Macau was compelling it would be different. But its just not very interesting IMHO.

I've had a few kapotas made in HKG, pretty rare for me to be in a suit.
Used Tai Pan for them.
Why did you use Tai Pan specifically?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 22, 2015, 05:45:19 PM
Having spent a bit of time searching this thread and elsewhere online, it seems that most custom suits in HKG cost at least $400. Does anyone here remember how much they paid for a custom suit and where you got it from?  Obviously I know it depends on the fabric, but there has to be a minimum. In other words, am I crazy to think that I can get a suit for under $400?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 23, 2015, 09:36:54 AM
Having spent a bit of time searching this thread and elsewhere online, it seems that most custom suits in HKG cost at least $400. Does anyone here remember how much they paid for a custom suit and where you got it from?  Obviously I know it depends on the fabric, but there has to be a minimum. In other words, am I crazy to think that I can get a suit for under $400?
Hop over to CNX and get from there. Much cheaper.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 23, 2015, 09:41:47 AM
Hop over to CNX and get from there. Much cheaper.
Don't think you can compare the craftsmanship.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 23, 2015, 09:49:36 AM
Don't think you can compare the craftsmanship.
Very likely.

I would like to say i will get one from HKG and compare, but the guy i get from in CNX has been great and i really like the stuff i get from him.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 23, 2015, 11:02:35 AM
Hop over to CNX and get from there. Much cheaper.
True, but

Don't think you can compare the craftsmanship.

So assuming I won't be hopping over there, what are the prices like in HKG itself?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on October 23, 2015, 11:05:09 AM
True, but

So assuming I won't be hopping over there, what are the prices like in HKG itself?
Not sure on pricing, but would think you should schedule an appointment at one of the more reputable tailors. Do not go with some random guy off the street.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 23, 2015, 11:13:24 AM
Not sure on pricing, but would think you should schedule an appointment at one of the more reputable tailors. Do not go with some random guy off the street.
Obviously. However I also don't want to waste my time going to different tailors if they all charge $400+.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Hershelsdeals on October 25, 2015, 01:36:47 AM
Should i take the CX pier or the wing in HKG airport?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 01:51:35 AM
Should i take the CX pier or the wing in HKG airport?
Why not visit both?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 03:49:05 PM
Besides for staying at the Sheraton Friday night to be near KZ, what other hotels are worth staying at for Friday night? Is the GH worth it if spending shabbos on HKI?

What about Saturday night? I'll be at the HR TST for 2 nights before shabbos and wanted to try something else.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 25, 2015, 04:15:00 PM
Besides for staying at the Sheraton Friday night to be near KZ, what other hotels are worth staying at for Friday night?
IC?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on October 25, 2015, 05:16:56 PM
Besides for staying at the Sheraton Friday night to be near KZ, what other hotels are worth staying at for Friday night? Is the GH worth it if spending shabbos on HKI?

What about Saturday night? I'll be at the HR TST for 2 nights before shabbos and wanted to try something else.

IC has an awesome pool area overlooking the harbor. really nice hotel

if you go to macua for a night, check out banyan tree.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
IC?
No IHG points. :( Is it worth opening the CC or transferring just for that?

IC has an awesome pool area overlooking the harbor. really nice hotel

if you go to macua for a night, check out banyan tree.
If I end up going to Macau Saturday night I'd stay at the brand new St. Regis.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 25, 2015, 05:42:29 PM
W HKG is one of my favorite hotels.
Though I stayed there under the old C&P chart when it was a cat 5...and got all my points refunded.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 25, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
No IHG points. :( Is it worth opening the CC or transferring just for that?
No
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 05:47:05 PM
W HKG is one of my favorite hotels.
Though I stayed there under the old C&P chart when it was a cat 5...and got all my points refunded.
Well C+P is available for 10k+$180 or just 20k. Paid rate is $400 (or $380 with AAA). Either way C+P is the better deal. What was so nice about the hotel?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 05:48:50 PM
No
That's what I figured. Now if only there was a more compelling reason to go to the St. Regis Macau (best rate at $489 paid and only 12k) besides the hotel...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on October 25, 2015, 07:11:51 PM
W HKG is one of my favorite hotels.
Though I stayed there under the old C&P chart when it was a cat 5...and got all my points refunded.
It's a nice hotel, but dont think it's worth switching to in middle of a trip.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 07:15:29 PM
It's a nice hotel, but dont think it's worth switching to in middle of a trip.
As of now I don't have anything booked for Fri and Sat nights. Assuming I stay at the Sheraton for Fri night, you think it's just worth it to stay their again Sat night (assuming I don't go to Macau)?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 25, 2015, 07:16:15 PM
Well C+P is available for 10k+$180 or just 20k. Paid rate is $400 (or $380 with AAA). Either way C+P is the better deal. What was so nice about the hotel?
It's just a very nice looking hotel, beautiful lobby, elevators.
76th floor infinity pool and hot tub are awesome.
Was upgraded to a huge marvelous suite with a tub that had a great view and and a TV to boot.
The airport express station is in the hotel's "basement." The Bellhop took our bags from our room and we never touched them again until we got to CLE thanks to the checkin stations there.
 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 07:17:36 PM
It's just a very nice looking hotel, beautiful lobby, elevators.
76th floor infinity pool and hot tub are awesome.
Was upgraded to a huge marvelous suite with a tub that had a great view and and a TV to boot.
The airport express station is in the hotel's "basement." The Bellhop took our bags from our room and we never touched them again until we got to CLE thanks to the checkin stations there.
Wow, that sounds awesome! Do you disagree with MEIR613 then about switching?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 25, 2015, 07:20:25 PM
Wow, that sounds awesome! Do you disagree with MEIR613 then about switching?
I personally switched to the W on Sat night from HKI. Though we stayed in a real dive in HKI.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
I personally switched to the W on Sat night from HKI. Though we stayed in a real dive in HKI.
Not at the GH I assume? Do you remember the name of the place?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 25, 2015, 07:36:50 PM
Not at the GH I assume? Do you remember the name of the place?
Haha, no.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g294217-d309407-r99694563-Garden_View_Hong_Kong-Hong_Kong.html
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on October 25, 2015, 07:38:10 PM
The Ritz Carlton Macau is a hotel worth opening a cc for and visiting for.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 07:44:12 PM
Haha, no.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g294217-d309407-r99694563-Garden_View_Hong_Kong-Hong_Kong.html
Yikes! I'll be sure to avoid it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 07:44:23 PM
The Ritz Carlton Macau is a hotel worth opening a cc for and visiting for.
Reasons?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on October 25, 2015, 08:05:01 PM
No IHG points. :( Is it worth opening the CC or transferring just for that?
If I end up going to Macau Saturday night I'd stay at the brand new St. Regis.

I didnt check that out but the banyan tree has a super long hot tub/ chill pool PLUS a wooden tub in the room. also has amazing grounds with a wave pool, lazy river etc.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 08:18:47 PM
I didnt check that out but the banyan tree has a super long hot tub/ chill pool PLUS a wooden tub in the room. also has amazing grounds with a wave pool, lazy river etc.
Thanks for the ideas, but I don't think the wave pool or lazy river will be getting much use in the middle of winter.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on October 25, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
Thanks for the ideas, but I don't think the wave pool or lazy river will be getting much use in the middle of winter.

im not sure when your going but its 80 degrees there now.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 25, 2015, 09:23:29 PM
im not sure when your going but its 80 degrees there now.
I'm going at the end of January, the middle of winter. It's 80° in LA now too.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on October 26, 2015, 08:07:31 AM
It's just a very nice looking hotel, beautiful lobby, elevators.
76th floor infinity pool and hot tub are awesome.
Was upgraded to a huge marvelous suite with a tub that had a great view and and a TV to boot.
The airport express station is in the hotel's "basement." The Bellhop took our bags from our room and we never touched them again until we got to CLE thanks to the checkin stations there.
IMO, those aren't reasons to switch to there for one night.

Yes, it's nice and definitely would consider it again, but not worth shlepping over on a Saturday night for one night.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 09:00:45 AM
IMO, those aren't reasons to switch to there for one night.

Yes, it's nice and definitely would consider it again, but not worth shlepping over on a Saturday night for one night.
I guess it kind of depends on your definition of schlep and who/what is being moved, no? Of you're just with a carry on and no kids would you still not "schlep"?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on October 26, 2015, 11:06:33 AM
I guess it kind of depends on your definition of schlep and who/what is being moved, no? Of you're just with a carry on and no kids would you still not "schlep"?
It's annoying to move hotels, period.

I personally got an amazing suite at the Sheraton and was the same size as the W. Was the W a little nicer? Yes, but a little nicer doesn't warrant a change in my books.

Also, you will need to make sure you can check out after Shabbos with out being charge for an additional night, which I don't think will be so easy.

Yes, there is a nice pool, but for the 15 hours you are going to be there, the type of person you are and the weather, dont think you will end up using it.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 11:11:02 AM
Without kids I'd disagree.

TA ranks the W as one of the best hotels in HKG for good reason. Unless you're pressed for time, why not be able to experience it?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 11:13:27 AM
It's annoying to move hotels, period.

I personally got an amazing suite at the Sheraton and was the same size as the W. Was the W a little nicer? Yes, but a little nicer doesn't warrant a change in my books.

Also, you will need to make sure you can check out after Shabbos with out being charge for an additional night, which I don't think will be so easy.

Yes, there is a nice pool, but for the 15 hours you are going to be there, the type of person you are and the weather, dont think you will end up using it.
All valid points, especially the last 3. Regarding checking out on shabbos, Shabbos is over at 6:45, so I'd just pack up my bags in the morning and have the hotel take them down to storage for the rest of the day and just hang out in the lounge or lobby area. That being said, if I decide to stay in HKG on Sat night, I'd rather spend 12k SPG for another night at the Sheraton than 20k at the W. But it's also 12k for the St. Regis Macau which will be brand new by that point. I just have to decide if I want to go to Macau for Sunday and then take a boat straight back to HKG (airport).

Without kids I'd disagree.

TA ranks the W as one of the best hotels in HKG for good reason. Unless you're pressed for time, why not be able to experience it?
Well besides for the extra 8k SPG, if I'm going to switch hotels I may want to check out the brand new St. Regis. TA's won't have reviews of it yet, but how can you pass up a 12k/night, brand  new  St. Regis (besides the fact that it's in Macau)? I can always visit the W just to see it.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 11:18:41 AM
I (and several others) found Macau to be exceedingly dull.
Why would you spend ~8 hours of your vacation time transferring RT to an unproven hotel rather than spend 30 minutes transferring to one of the highest rated hotels in HKG, (and one that also saves you time by putting you right on top of the Airport Express checkin lobby)?
Unless you really want the extra stamps in your passport?
Besides hotels close to opening are often full of problems and kinks that have yet to be worked out.

Your wife likes to swim too, no? There are some things you can't do by just "checking it out"
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on October 26, 2015, 11:25:36 AM
All valid points, especially the last 3. Regarding checking out on shabbos, Shabbos is over at 6:45, so I'd just pack up my bags in the morning and have the hotel take them down to storage for the rest of the day and just hang out in the lounge or lobby area. That being said, if I decide to stay in HKG on Sat night, I'd rather spend 12k SPG for another night at the Sheraton than 20k at the W. But it's also 12k for the St. Regis Macau which will be brand new by that point. I just have to decide if I want to go to Macau for Sunday and then take a boat straight back to HKG (airport).
Well besides for the extra 8k SPG, if I'm going to switch hotels I may want to check out the brand new St. Regis. TA's won't have reviews of it yet, but how can you pass up a 12k/night, brand  new  St. Regis (besides the fact that it's in Macau)? I can always visit the W just to see it.
Biggest PITA and for that reason alone I wouldnt do it.

Dan, the best hotel in HKG, serious?

It's nice hotel, but definitely dont think it's the nicest.

So you think he should go through the hassle to check out early on Shabbos and switch hotels MS just to have his bags checked through?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 11:28:34 AM
I said one of the best, feel free to argue with TA:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294217-d1068719-Reviews-W_Hong_Kong-Hong_Kong.html

Personally I'd just convince them to give a late checkout and then switch. Really depends on what you like. If you'd enjoy a 75th floor infinity pool and hot tub then yes, it would be worth it. Assuming that you covered the main tourist spots in HKG already.

You think it's worth switching to Macau for Sat night? Esp for someone who lives 4.5K Avios from far more exciting/accessible/kosher food LAS?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 11:42:03 AM
I (and several others) found Macau to be exceedingly dull.
Why would you spend ~8 hours of your vacation time transferring RT to an unproven hotel rather than spend 30 minutes transferring to one of the highest rated hotels in HKG, (and one that also saves you time by putting you right on top of the Airport Express checkin lobby)?
Unless you really want the extra stamps in your passport?
Besides hotels close to opening are often full of problems and kinks that have yet to be worked out.

Your wife likes to swim too, no? There are some things you can't do by just "checking it out"
Well there's that; I like passport stamps. True, the hotel will be just 1 month old, but that give them 1 month to get things in order. Finally, DW won't be with me on this trip, and I don't know if I'd actually use the pool myself (unless it's heated).

Biggest PITA and for that reason alone I wouldnt do it.

Dan, the best hotel in HKG, serious?

It's nice hotel, but definitely dont think it's the nicest.

So you think he should go through the hassle to check out early on Shabbos and switch hotels MS just to have his bags checked through?
Is it really that big of a PITA to check out ~3 hours before shabbos is over?

I said one of the best, feel free to argue with TA:
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294217-d1068719-Reviews-W_Hong_Kong-Hong_Kong.html

Personally I'd just convince them to give a late checkout and then switch. Really depends on what you like. If you'd enjoy a 75th floor infinity pool and hot tub then yes, it would be worth it. Assuming that you covered the main tourist spots in HKG already.

You think it's worth switching to Macau for Sat night? Esp for someone who lives 4.5K Avios from far more exciting/accessible/kosher food LAS?
Assuming I covered the main tourist attractions already, are you suggesting just spending the day at the hotel? You're right, the Airport Express  check  in does look cool, but that wouldn't be the only reason I'd stay there (especially since I don't plan on checking bags). Besides you can check in bags in Macau when taking the ferry straight to the airport.

As far as LAS is concerned, I wouldn't exactly go there for the food (coming from LAX), but as I said above, it's more about the passport stamp. Plus it's only for a half a day.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 11:47:24 AM
Didn't realize no DW.

Didn't say anyone would go to LAS for food. I just don't see any advantage of Macau over LAS in any aspect unless you're a smoker who likes $100 minimum tables. It's a time consuming transfer that's only worthwhile if you've exhausted everything to do in HKG or if you really want to see the dancing water show.
Definitely not just to see a completely unproven hotel.

(unless it's heated).

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/whotels/property/features/attraction_detail.html?propertyID=1965&attractionId=1001940006&language=en_US
Heated:   Yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 11:50:56 AM
Didn't realize no DW.

Didn't say anyone would go to LAS for food. I just don't see any advantage of Macau over LAS in any aspect unless you're a smoker who likes $100 minimum tables. It's a time consuming transfer that's only worthwhile if you've exhausted everything to do in HKG or if you really want to see the dancing water show.
Definitely not just to see a completely unproven hotel.

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/whotels/property/features/attraction_detail.html?propertyID=1965&attractionId=1001940006&language=en_US
Heated:   Yes
Very valid points. I'll need to consider it more. As of now I haven't booked anything in HKG, since there's still a chance I'll be on HKI for shabbos. If I am on HKI, is it still worth it to transfer to the W MS?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on October 26, 2015, 12:23:48 PM
FYI IME Macua didnt stamp our passports. you get a paper. so dont go just for that.

Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
FYI IME Macua didnt stamp our passports. you get a paper. so dont go just for that.
Really? Well that's disappointing. Thanks for letting me know. Did anyone else have the same experience?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 12:35:35 PM
We got stamped, but that was almost 6 years ago.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
We got stamped, but that was almost 6 years ago.

FYI IME Macua didnt stamp our passports. you get a paper. so dont go just for that.
When were you there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:37:52 PM
Why would you spend ~8 hours of your vacation time transferring RT
The ferry is 1 hour each way, add the time getting from hotel to ferry and from ferry to airport, it shouldn't be more than 3 hours RT (that's exactly what I did and it took 3 hours on the dot).

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Unless you really want the extra stamps in your passport?
Well there's that; I like passport stamps.
That's not a reason to go to Macau, because Macau doesn't stamp your passport (the same way that HKG doesn't stamp your passport), they just give a little visa paper.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:38:20 PM
When were you there?
2 months ago.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 01:41:01 PM
Macau is looking a lot less attractive now. The W looks attractive and convenient. Decisions, decisions...

Why don't Hong Kong or Macau stamp?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 01:42:14 PM
The ferry is 1 hour each way, add the time getting from hotel to ferry and from ferry to airport, it shouldn't be more than 3 hours RT (that's exactly what I did and it took 3 hours on the dot).
There's no way you can make it from your HKG hotel room to the ferry station, buy tickets, wait for the ferry, ride the ferry, clear immigration, and make it into your next hotel room in 1.5 hours.
No way. No how.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:43:33 PM
I just don't see any advantage of Macau over LAS in any aspect unless you're a smoker who likes $100 minimum tables.
You are no longer allowed to smoke in Macau casinos, except in designated smoking rooms (similar to airport smoking rooms).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
There's no way you can make it from your HKG hotel room to the ferry station, buy tickets, wait for the ferry, ride the ferry, clear immigration, and make it into your next hotel room in 1.5 hours.
No way. No how.
Even if all that took 2-2.5 hours it's less than 8.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 01:44:16 PM
You are no longer allowed to smoke in Macau casinos, exception designated smoking rooms (similar to airport smoking rooms).
That's good. Was really gross when we were there.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 01:46:57 PM
That's good. Was really gross when we were there.
Thank Gd. If it's like Vegas where you can hardly tell because of the exta O2 and super good ventilation systems, all the better.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:47:01 PM
Why don't Hong Kong or Macau stamp?
I have no idea, I even asked a few times (I went to Macau twice) both in HKG and in Macau and they all told me they don't even have a stamp so they can't.

There's no way you can make it from your HKG hotel room to the ferry station, buy tickets, wait for the ferry, ride the ferry, clear immigration, and make it into your next hotel room in 1.5 hours.
No way. No how.
I'm sorry, but BTDT - left the Sheraton Kowloon at 930pm was in the Sheraton Macau at 1050pm. Left the Galaxy at 350am, was in the airport at 530am.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
That's good. Was really gross when we were there.
Ever been to AC or FoxWoods?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 01:48:13 PM
I have no idea, I even asked a few times (I went to Macau twice) both in HKG and in Macau and they all told me they don't even have a stamp so they can't.
I'm sorry, but BTDT - left the Sheraton Kowloon at 930pm was in the Sheraton Macau at 1050pm. Left the Galaxy at 350am, was in the airport at 530am.
Well traveling without kids helps, as does only having carry-ons and traveling at off-peak times.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 01:48:53 PM
Ever been to AC?
I was shocked that AC allowed smoking (having only been to Vegas before then)!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:51:20 PM
Well traveling without kids helps, as does only having carry-ons and traveling at off-peak times.
Ok, so go add kids and luggage, it's no where near ~8 hours RT.
No way. No how.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 01:51:54 PM
I'm sorry, but BTDT - left the Sheraton Kowloon at 930pm was in the Sheraton Macau at 1050pm.am.
The ferry is an hour.
You're claiming you got from your room at the Sheraton to the ferry station, bought tickets, waited for the ferry, cleared immigration, and checked in and got to your next hotel all in 20 minutes  :o
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 01:52:24 PM
Ok, so go add kids and luggage, it's no where near ~8 hours RT.
No way. No how.
Didn't say it would be 8. Hence the ~ as it's based on many factors.

I'm sorry, but BTDT - left the Sheraton Kowloon at 930pm was in the Sheraton Macau at 1050pm.am.
The ferry is an hour long.
You're claiming you got from your room at the Sheraton to the ferry station, bought tickets, waited for the ferry, cleared immigration, and got to your next hotel and checked in all in 20 minutes  :o
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 01:54:54 PM
Ok, so go add kids and luggage, it's no where near ~8 hours RT.
No way. No how.
That's what I assumed. I assume I'd be able to do it in >2 hours.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:56:45 PM
The ferry is an hour.
You're claiming you got from your room at the Sheraton to the ferry station, bought tickets, waited for the ferry, cleared immigration, and checked in and got to your next hotel all in 20 minutes  :o
No need to wait in those long lines to buy tickets, you can buy from the scoupers standing in the ferry station.
I didn't check into a hotel in Macau.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 01:56:53 PM
Maybe Macau appeals to people living in Israel the way Eilat appeals to them.

Because to Americans, there's really nothing special about Eilat or Macau considering we have places like MIA and LAS so easily accessible.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 01:58:27 PM
Maybe Macau appeals to people living in Israel the way Eilat appeals to them.

Because to Americans, there's really nothing special about Eilat or Macau considering we have places like MIA and LAS so easily accessible.
Makes sense, though from an international perspective, Macau and Vegas both get many international tourists. Many Asians visit Vegas and many Americans visit Macau.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
Maybe Macau appeals to people living in Israel the way Eilat appeals to them.

Because to Americans, there's really nothing special about Eilat or Macau considering we have places like MIA and LAS so easily accessible.
I guess that's it, because I really do enjoy Eilat :)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 02:00:05 PM
Makes sense, though from an international perspective, Macau and Vegas both get many international tourists. Many Asians visit Vegas and many Americans visit Macau.
There's not that many Americans in Macau. Was mostly Chinese.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:01:15 PM
There's not that many Americans in Macau. Was mostly Chinese.
So maybe it's just all the Asians that flood Vegas. Could be it's just for CES and other shows.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
I guess that's it, because I really do enjoy Eilat :)
As Damaxer would say, the only differences between Miami and Eilat is that Miami has sandy beaches, good kosher food, and shuls ;)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
So maybe it's just all the Asians that flood Vegas. Could be it's just for CES and other shows.
Asians love to gamble big. Much bigger appetite for losses than Americans. LAS heavily markets to them. Never seen Macau pushing for us to go there...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 02:03:57 PM
As Damaxer would say, the only differences between Miami and Eilat is that Miami has sandy beaches, good kosher food, and shuls ;)
Good one..... but Eilat has shuls too. 
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 02:04:55 PM
Good one..... but Eilat has shuls too. 
It's a joke, don't take it too seriously.
Point is, Americans are always very disappointed if they waste time in Israel going to Eilat (assuming they've been to MIA before). I'd daresay the same is true for Macau for the same reason (assuming they've been to LAS before).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
Another key factor that's been left out during this whole Macau debate, is whether you are the party/bar type of guy or not.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:12:13 PM
Another key factor that's been left out during this whole Macau debate, is whether you are the party/bar type of guy or not.
And I think you and Dan both know I'd most definitely not.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:13:24 PM
Asians love to gamble big. Much bigger appetite for losses than Americans. LAS heavily markets to them. Never seen Macau pushing for us to go there...
But why would they come to LAS (unless they're in the US already) when Macau is so much closer? They even have many of the same hotels, and they speak the same language/understand the culture in Macau.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 02:13:48 PM
And I think you and Dan both know I'd most definitely not.
True, but I just wanted to throw it out there for future reference.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 02:15:30 PM
But why would they come to LAS (unless they're in the US already) when Macau is so much closer? They even have many of the same hotels, and they speak the same language/understand the culture in Macau.
More shows, more compact strip to explore the hotels, more variety of hotels, more sights to see?
I'm sure it's a harder sell these days than it was before the Macau explosion, but my view is that Macau is a poor knockoff of LAS.

If you have 5+ days in HKG then maybe it can make sense. Otherwise, meh.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:18:13 PM
More shows, more compact strip to explore the hotels, more variety of hotels, more sights to see?
I'm sure it's a harder sell these days than it was before the Macau explosion, but my view is that Macau is a poor knockoff of LAS.

If you have 5+ days in HKG then maybe it can make sense. Otherwise, meh.
But with that explosion, might it have changed since you were there 6 years ago?  Might it be something to see now?

I have 4 days, so it's nearly border line.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 02:20:30 PM
We checked out the old city, the Wynn, the Venetian, the Grand Hyatt, the dancing water show.
If another LAS knockoff opened up will that make the trip worthwhile?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 02:21:46 PM
We checked out the Wynn, Venetian, the Grand Hyatt, the dancing water show.
If another LAS knockoff opened up will that make the trip worthwhile?
No wonder you weren't impressed, you couldn't go to the Galaxy because it wasn't built yet!!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:22:31 PM
No wonder you weren't impressed, you couldn't go to the Galaxy because it wasn't built yet!!
Is the Galaxy really that worth it?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 26, 2015, 02:23:04 PM
I've been to LAS several times.
Another copycat hotel/casino with $100 blackjack tables isn't going to impress me. Especially when in LAS it's so easy to hop from hotel to hotel by foot or thanks to free parking, while in Macau it's not.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 02:23:24 PM
Is the Galaxy really that worth it?
IMO yes, but it seems that I'm in the minority here with my Macau opinion.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:26:15 PM
I've been to LAS several times.
Another copycat hotel/casino with $100 blackjack tables isn't going to impress me. Especially when in LAS it's so easy to hop from hotel to hotel by foot or thanks to free parking, while in Macau it's not.
We'll getting between hotels in LAS by foot is doable I wouldn't say it's easy or close. Each hotel is about a 10 minute walk from the next one (at least) and that doesn't count having to cross a side street via bridge.  Driving (and free valet parking) is so much easier. Obviously not talking about hotels that are connected like the Palazzo/Venetian and Encore/Wynn.

So how do you get between hotels in Macau? Taxi? Bus? Free shuttle?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:26:43 PM
IMO yes, but it seems that I'm in the minority here with my Macau opinion.
So I guess we need another opinion of someone who's been to the Galaxy recently.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 02:26:53 PM
We'll getting between hotels in LAS by foot is doable I wouldn't say it's easy or close. Each hotel is about a 10 minute walk from the next one (at least) and that doesn't count having to cross a side street via bridge.  Driving (and free valet parking) is so much easier. Obviously not talking about hotels that are connected like the Palazzo/Venetian and Encore/Wynn.

So how do you get between hotels in Macau? Taxi? Bus? Free shuttle?
Taxi
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
Taxi
Expensive/approximate cost?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on October 26, 2015, 02:34:35 PM
Expensive/approximate cost?
Don't remember exactly, but it's not expensive.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 26, 2015, 02:54:38 PM
They have Uber now
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
They have Uber now
Good to know, but is it cheaper than a cab?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 26, 2015, 05:26:12 PM
According to the MTR website (http://www.mtr.com.hk/en/customer/services/complom_free_bus.html), if you get an Airport Express ticket you can get a free shuttle to your hotel. Has anyone used this? Is this the easiest way to get to the HR TST or Sheraton?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 27, 2015, 12:50:29 AM
What's the best way to get from Macau (Sharaton/Venetian/Galaxy/St. Regis area) to HKG airport?

Cotai Water Jet (http://www.cotaiwaterjet.com/ferry-schedule/hkia-macau-taipa.html) leaves from Taipa terminal which is closer to the hotel.

TurboJet (https://www.turbojet.com.hk/en/routing-sailing-schedule/hk-airport-macau/sailing-schedule-fares.aspx) leaves from the Outer Harbour Ferry Terminal which is farther from the hotel (about twice as far).

Which is a better ride/more reliable/less crowded?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on October 27, 2015, 08:48:58 AM
Cotai Water Jet was much nicer, cleaner...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 27, 2015, 10:56:35 AM
Cotai Water Jet was much nicer, cleaner...
Thanks. If I have a flight at 4:20p from HKG, which Cotai boat should I take? 11:55a or 1:55p? How long before the boat's scheduled departure do you need to be at the ferry terminal?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on October 27, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
Cotai Water Jet was much nicer, cleaner...

agreed. I took both.

also, in Macau there are free shuttle buses everywhere that are very convenient to use. (between hotels). you can also take to/from the terminal for free to any hotel.
Thanks. If I have a flight at 4:20p from HKG, which Cotai boat should I take? 11:55a or 1:55p? How long before the boat's scheduled departure do you need to be at the ferry terminal?

one of the ferrys stop at the airport. I am not sure which one. I left macua on the same day as my flight out of HGK. Stopped off at the JCC for lunch then headed to the airport. If you are going to do this, obviously the 11.55.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 27, 2015, 11:35:03 AM
agreed. I took both.

also, in Macau there are free shuttle buses everywhere that are very convenient to use. (between hotels). you can also take to/from the terminal for free to any hotel.
one of the ferrys stop at the airport. I am not sure which one. I left macua on the same day as my flight out of HGK. Stopped off at the JCC for lunch then headed to the airport. If you are going to do this, obviously the 11.55.
True, but I meant if I go straight from Macau to the airport without stopping in Hong Hong first. Then is 13.55 doable? It should land around 15.00 which is only 1.20 before the flight. True, I'll be in F, but I wanted to check  out the Wing and Pier lounges as well.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 27, 2015, 02:20:47 PM
just catching up here. are you seriously going to macau just for a passport stamp or was that a joke?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 27, 2015, 02:24:59 PM
just catching up here. are you seriously going to macau just for a passport stamp or was that a joke?
Mainly a joke. I'd go to see the old city center, the Galaxy, and while there stay at the new St. Regis. If I just stayed in HKG, what should there be to do? I'd have already spent 1.5 days plus Sat night (in winter). Any compelling reason to stay in HKG?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on October 28, 2015, 12:38:10 AM
Mainly a joke. I'd go to see the old city center, the Galaxy, and while there stay at the new St. Regis. If I just stayed in HKG, what should there be to do? I'd have already spent 1.5 days plus Sat night (in winter). Any compelling reason to stay in HKG?
Dan, I agree with all you are saying about Macau, except for one thing. The new Ritz Carlton. The smallest room is almost 900 square feet. Look and weep: http://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/Properties/Macau/Rooms/Default.htm?tab=1

Also waterpark and more.

Also, if you are singly and ballsy, you can have a good time hitting up rich Chinese people and making good relationships. They love Jews and Americans. Just join a table and drink some $30,000 scotch with them. Macau is also the richest city in the world.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 12:58:23 AM
Dan, I agree with all you are saying about Macau, except for one thing. The new Ritz Carlton. The smallest room is almost 900 square feet. Look and weep: http://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/Properties/Macau/Rooms/Default.htm?tab=1

Also waterpark and more.

Also, if you are singly and ballsy, you can have a good time hitting up rich Chinese people and making good relationships. They love Jews and Americans. Just join a table and drink some $30,000 scotch with them. Macau is also the richest city in the world.
So lets assume for the purpose of this advice that I'm not "singly and ballsy" and that I won't have a good time "hitting up rich Chinese people and making good relationships."

Let's also assume I won't be going to water parks in the middle of winter or staying at the new Ritz Carlton (I'd stay at the new St. Regis).

Is there still any reason to go to Macau?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on October 28, 2015, 01:25:33 AM
So lets assume for the purpose of this advice that I'm not "singly and ballsy" and that I won't have a good time "hitting up rich Chinese people and making good relationships."

Let's also assume I won't be going to water parks in the middle of winter or staying at the new Ritz Carlton (I'd stay at the new St. Regis).

Is there still any reason to go to Macau?

No. The only good reason is the Ritz. If you want to see the best St Regis in the world, go the Shenzhen. The St. Regis there is 100 floors up and has an infinity pool on the 75th floor. Also have great duplex suites for platinum members. Go the SZ for one night, get some fake watches and stuff, see the electronics market and see Dongmen.  Don't get a Chinese visa just for SZ, but if you have one already, go for a night.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 01:33:10 AM
No. The only good reason is the Ritz. If you want to see the best St Regis in the world, go the Shenzhen. The St. Regis there is 100 floors up and has an infinity pool on the 75th floor. Also have great duplex suites for platinum members. Go the SZ for one night, get some fake watches and stuff, see the electronics market and see Dongmen.  Don't get a Chinese visa just for SZ, but if you have one already, go for a night.
How do you know that the nicest St. Regis in the world is in Shenzhen if the one in Macau not even open yet? I also don't have a Chinese visa. I do plan on being in Beijing but will be for less than 72 hours before going to Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 28, 2015, 12:17:11 PM
i would bungee jump if i would go to macau. take the plunge
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 12:19:17 PM
i would bungee jump if i would go to macau. take the plunge
Timing doesn't work out. They open too late. What about just going to the observation deck (which opens 1.5 hours earlier)?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
I think i may have given copies during one visit.
Speaking of the JCC, are they the best place for lunch? I was looking at their site (http://www.jcc.org.hk/jcc-restaurants.php) and it appears that the dairy restaurant Waterside Pizza is closed for renovations. I can't find any info on Seven Zero or JCC Pizza (unless that is Waterside Pizza). Does anyone have any updated info on these places?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on November 04, 2015, 04:23:57 PM
Speaking of the JCC, are they the best place for lunch? I was looking at their site (http://www.jcc.org.hk/jcc-restaurants.php) and it appears that the dairy restaurant Waterside Pizza is closed for renovations. I can't find any info on Seven Zero or JCC Pizza (unless that is Waterside Pizza). Does anyone have any updated info on these places?
Seven Zero took over Waterside it's the only place. you can call the JCC (852) 2589 2601 or email info@jcc.org.hk and remember to bring your passport.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on November 04, 2015, 06:23:26 PM

Speaking of the JCC, are they the best place for lunch? I was looking at their site (http://www.jcc.org.hk/jcc-restaurants.php) and it appears that the dairy restaurant Waterside Pizza is closed for renovations. I can't find any info on Seven Zero or JCC Pizza (unless that is Waterside Pizza). Does anyone have any updated info on these places?
Seven Zero is open, at least as of August. The online into was very unclear, I called them to confirm
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on November 04, 2015, 06:24:36 PM
Seven Zero is open, at least as of August. The online into was very unclear, I called them to confirm
I was there in September
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 06:42:06 PM
Seven Zero is open, at least as of August. The online into was very unclear, I called them to confirm

I was there in September

Thanks guys. I guess I'll call to see if they're open, or will be open when I'm going. How was the food?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on November 04, 2015, 07:56:06 PM
Thanks guys. I guess I'll call to see if they're open, or will be open when I'm going. How was the food?
The food was great I personally liked the home fries with chepolte mayo
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 08:16:32 PM
Looks like good stuff. I hope to try it soon.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 05, 2015, 12:18:23 AM
Thanks guys. I guess I'll call to see if they're open, or will be open when I'm going. How was the food?
Very good.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 05, 2015, 09:07:38 AM
Thanks guys. I guess I'll call to see if they're open, or will be open when I'm going. How was the food?
Very good.
Especially when you are not in LA with a million options.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 05, 2015, 11:20:46 AM
Especially when you are not in LA with a million options.
lol, I assume they were being as objective as possible.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 08, 2015, 07:39:55 PM
Seems like the GH now has 4G phones in the rooms.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on November 08, 2015, 07:45:38 PM
Seems like the GH now has 4G phones in the rooms.
HR TST and the IC also do
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on November 08, 2015, 08:02:02 PM
HR TST and the IC also do

and IC GS
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2015, 08:05:49 PM
And the W.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2015, 08:11:57 PM
Seems like it's common in most places, though the GH just jumped on that band wagon. I wonder why more hotels in other cities don't do that?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2015, 08:12:50 PM
Has anyone done any nature hikes/walks in Hong Kong? If I stay Sat night I thought it'd be nice to do one in Sunday instead of staying in the city again.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2015, 08:12:53 PM
Seems like it's common in most places, though the GH just jumped on that band wagon. I wonder why more hotels in other cities don't do that?
It's very low cost in HKG. Not like that everywhere.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 08, 2015, 08:14:56 PM
Has anyone done any nature hikes/walks in Hong Kong? If I stay Sat night I thought it'd be nice to do one in Sunday instead of staying in the city again.
Is the Dragons Back or something like that in Hong Kong?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2015, 08:15:14 PM
It's very low cost in HKG. Not like that everywhere.
Why is that? There aren't any other places in the world where it's also cheap?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2015, 08:16:10 PM
Is the Dragons Back or something like that in Hong Kong?
That's the one I saw in my research, too. Have you done it? Is it nice to do and easy to get to?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2015, 08:16:19 PM
Why is that? There aren't any other places in the world where it's also cheap?
Cheap is relative. But a SIM in HKG is very cheap while hotel rooms are very expensive, yet competitive.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on November 08, 2015, 08:16:45 PM
That's the one I saw in my research, too. Have you done it? Is it nice to do and easy to get to?
I have not done it, but IIRC, it was something we wanted to do if we had time.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 08, 2015, 08:23:43 PM
I have not done it, but IIRC, it was something we wanted to do if we had time.
I guess I can look into it more. Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 12:48:30 AM
So the plan is to visit from Wed night though Sat night or Sun afternoon. I'll be staying at the HR TST. I was thinking of doing the following:

Thursday:
• Look into a tailor in Kowloon
• Subway to Victoria Peak.
• Walk from Peak tram to Mid-Central Escalators (is there anything to see along the way?), take to JCC for lunch.
• Maybe a bus tour in the afternoon?
• Dinner from JCC or Mul Hayam (suggestions?)
• Make it back to Kowloon in the evening for the Symphony of Lights
• Lady's Market

Friday:
• Visit tailor again (if necessary)
• Star Ferry tour

I really wanted to also walk around the downtown area at some point.

If I stayed until Sunday afternoon, would a good activity be Lantau Island and the Budda there? I assume it's not actually a temple and therefore ע״ז, right?

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 01:48:47 AM
So the plan is to visit from Wed night though Sat night or Sun afternoon. I'll be staying at the HR TST. I was thinking of doing the following:

Thursday:
• Look into a tailor in Kowloon
• Subway to Victoria Peak.
• Walk from Peak tram to Mid-Central Escalators (is there anything to see along the way?), take to JCC for lunch.
• Maybe a bus tour in the afternoon?
• Dinner from JCC or Mul Hayam (suggestions?)
• Make it back to Kowloon in the evening for the Symphony of Lights
• Lady's Market

Friday:
• Visit tailor again (if necessary)
• Star Ferry tour

I really wanted to also walk around the downtown area at some point.

If I stayed until Sunday afternoon, would a good activity be Lantau Island and the Budda there? I assume it's not actually a temple and therefore ע״ז, right?

Any thoughts?

It is a temple, but you can take the glass bottom cable car up the mountain, and not go into the actual temple(s).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 08:42:00 AM
It is a temple, but you can take the glass bottom cable car up the mountain, and not go into the actual temple(s).
Did you do that? What do you think of the rest of the itinerary?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Feivish on November 17, 2015, 08:43:37 AM
So the plan is to visit from Wed night though Sat night or Sun afternoon. I'll be staying at the HR TST. I was thinking of doing the following:
How does that work out for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2015, 08:55:50 AM
You'll probably need to go back to the tailor again on Sunday to pick up and make sure the alterations are good.
The glass bottom cable car experience is very cool.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 09:09:35 AM
Did you do that?

Yes
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 09:11:05 AM
The glass bottom cable car experience is very cool.
+1
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2015, 09:13:45 AM
So the plan is to visit from Wed night though Sat night or Sun afternoon. I'll be staying at the HR TST. I was thinking of doing the following:

Thursday:
• Look into a tailor in Kowloon
• Subway to Victoria Peak.
• Walk from Peak tram to Mid-Central Escalators (is there anything to see along the way?), take to JCC for lunch.
• Maybe a bus tour in the afternoon?
• Dinner from JCC or Mul Hayam (suggestions?)
• Make it back to Kowloon in the evening for the Symphony of Lights
• Lady's Market

Friday:
• Visit tailor again (if necessary)
• Star Ferry tour

I really wanted to also walk around the downtown area at some point.

If I stayed until Sunday afternoon, would a good activity be Lantau Island and the Budda there? I assume it's not actually a temple and therefore ע״ז, right?

Any thoughts?
What's a Star Ferry tour?
If you just mean crossing from HKI to Kowloon, why not just do that Thursday when you go back from HKI to Kowloon?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on November 17, 2015, 09:35:47 AM
What's a Star Ferry tour?
If you just mean crossing from HKI to Kowloon, why not just do that Thursday when you go back from HKI to Kowloon?

prob better off eating dinner thurs at Mul Hayam. That way you will be within a 5 min walk to the symphony of lights.

a little advice about tailors, if you are making shirts you will need at least 2 fittings. I assume its more for a suit.
Beware of the random Indian guys outside KZ begging for your business...
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:39:45 AM
How does that work out for Shabbos?
I'll be at the Sheraton for shabbos.

You'll probably need to go back to the tailor again on Sunday to pick up and make sure the alterations are good.
The glass bottom cable car experience is very cool.
True, if I end up getting something made I'll probably need to go back on Sunday to pick it up, I just don't know if I want to do that yet.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:40:10 AM
Yes
When? On Friday? How long does it take, both travel time there and travel time?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:41:37 AM
What's a Star Ferry tour?
If you just mean crossing from HKI to Kowloon, why not just do that Thursday when you go back from HKI to Kowloon?
Star Ferry does have a tour of the Harbour, but you're right, I can just take the ferry back to Kowloon from HKI and not go on the tour. In that case I'd probably want to go to Lantau Island on Friday. Is that doable?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:42:26 AM
prob better off eating dinner thurs at Mul Hayam. That way you will be within a 5 min walk to the symphony of lights.

a little advice about tailors, if you are making shirts you will need at least 2 fittings. I assume its more for a suit.
Beware of the random Indian guys outside KZ begging for your business...
That makes sense, eating close by. Thanks for the warning about random tailors. I've heard that many times before.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2015, 10:52:18 AM
In that case I'd probably want to go to Lantau Island on Friday. Is that doable?
I don't see why not.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 17, 2015, 10:54:14 AM
Go to Mul Hayam for Dinner and don't miss the Vietnamese Rice
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:55:50 AM
I don't see why not.
Ok, so let me ask a slightly related question. Assuming I do what I have planned for Thursday and Lantau Island on Friday, what else will I be missing? What would there be to do on Sunday?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:58:15 AM
Go to Mul Hayam for Dinner and don't miss the Vietnamese Rice
I can't find a menu online. What's in the Vietnamese Rice?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 17, 2015, 11:01:35 AM
I can't find a menu online. What's in the Vietnamese Rice?

Its a spicy, sticky rice worth flying to Hong Kong to eat
Ok, so let me ask a slightly related question. Assuming I do what I have planned for Thursday and Lantau Island on Friday, what else will I be missing? What would there be to do on Sunday?

Harbour City is worth a visit
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2015, 11:04:29 AM
Go to the W and chill in the rooftop pool  :)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Its a spicy, sticky rice worth flying to Hong Kong to eat
Harbour City is worth a visit
Is the rice pareve? Harbour City appears to be a shopping mall. Am I missing something if I'm not a big shopper? Like are their unique stores there or something else making it worth a visit?

Go to the W and chill in the rooftop pool  :)
So you've mentioned. I'm not a person who's very good at just chilling. I like to travel at a quicker pace, as you seem to enjoy as well.

Quote from: Dan on DDMS
I’m more of a hop off the plane and hit the ground running kind of guy

But that aside, is there something else to do that can't be done on Shabbos (like walking on the Tsim Sha Tsui Promenade)?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 17, 2015, 11:12:32 AM
Is the rice pareve? Harbour City appears to be a shopping mall. Am I missing something if I'm not a big shopper? Like are their unique stores there or something else making it worth a visit?


Not sure if its Pareve

If you don't care for shopping then avoid Harbour City
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 11:24:14 AM
Not sure if its Pareve

If you don't care for shopping then avoid Harbour City
I mean it's one thing to check out a market (like the Lady's market) which seems to be more local, but just a shopping mall might not be too interesting.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 12:23:01 PM
When? On Friday? How long does it take, both travel time there and travel time?

IIRC took us about 5 hours from the time we left HR TST until we came back (if you rush, can probably be way less).
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 12:27:38 PM
IIRC took us about 5 hours from the time we left HR TST until we came back (if you rush, can probably be way less).
So it's totally doable on a Friday (even in the winter) if it's the only activity. Besides taking the cable car, what else did you do there?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 12:31:31 PM
So it's totally doable on a Friday (even in the winter) if it's the only activity. Besides taking the cable car, what else did you do there?

Took pics of Big Buddha. Watched people burn incense to Buddha (and took pix of them). Walk around the shops in the "village".
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 12:37:12 PM
Took pics of Big Buddha. Watched people burn incense to Buddha (and took pix of them). Walk around the shops in the "village".
Did you do the Crystal car or regular, and did you pre-book tickets online?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 12:40:39 PM
Did you do the Crystal car or regular, and did you pre-book tickets online?

Crystal (that's the glass bottom one). Didn't pre-book.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 12:45:44 PM
Crystal (that's the glass bottom one). Didn't pre-book.
Did you do the Wisdom path?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 12:52:14 PM
Did you do the Wisdom path?

No. What is that?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 01:01:34 PM
No. What is that?
It's basically a path that passes these huge wooden posts with Chinese sayings carved into them. It's near the Big Buddah. See here (http://www.discoverhongkong.com/us/see-do/great-outdoors/outlying-islands/lantau-island/wisdom-path.jsp) or here (http://www.nextstophongkong.com/wisdom-path/) for more info.

Thanks for the ideas. I'll probably make Lantau Island my trip for Friday. Hopefully I'll be able to get some food to go from Mul Hayam the night before for lunch on Friday.

Did I miss anything in the city that I didn't have down for Thursday? Is there something else you'd recommend over a bus tour Thursday afternoon?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
Someone mentioned a bus tour they took that went to a different side of HKI, maybe a fishing village, and highly recommended that particular tour. Does anyone remember which one that was?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on November 17, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
Someone mentioned a bus tour they took that went to a different side of HKI, maybe a fishing village, and highly recommended that particular tour. Does anyone remember which one that was?
Gray Line Tours (Hong Kong) Ltd. - http://www.grayline.com.hk/hk/101AI-SK.html (http://www.grayline.com.hk/hk/101AI-SK.html)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 04:11:44 PM
Gray Line Tours (Hong Kong) Ltd. - http://www.grayline.com.hk/hk/101AI-SK.html (http://www.grayline.com.hk/hk/101AI-SK.html)
Thanks. Was it you who took that tour?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 05:33:40 PM
Gray Line Tours (Hong Kong) Ltd. - http://www.grayline.com.hk/hk/101AI-SK.html (http://www.grayline.com.hk/hk/101AI-SK.html)
Why did you choose that one over the Big Bus Tour?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on November 17, 2015, 07:11:18 PM
Why did you choose that one over the Big Bus Tour?
I didn't check out Big Bus Tour but they're located right outside HR TST and it worked out for me to leave after I Daven and eat at KZ
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
I didn't check out Big Bus Tour but they're located right outside HR TST and it worked out for me to leave after I Daven and eat at KZ
Who's located outside KZ? Greyline? They didn't get great reviews on TA. Just wondering how you found them?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:07:17 PM
Do people even bother getting an Octopus card? I mean the difference in fare seems to be a couple of cents; is it worth getting?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 10:32:06 PM
Is the walk from the Sheraton to KZ easy? From GMaps it looks like walking along Salisbury Rd is difficult. Is it?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 18, 2015, 12:54:55 AM
Is the walk from the Sheraton to KZ easy? From GMaps it looks like walking along Salisbury Rd is difficult. Is it?

The walk is simple as can be.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 12:58:20 AM
The walk is simple as can be.
It just looks from streetview like the sidewalks have all these bridges and things. Just making sure there wasn't some trick that I should know about.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 18, 2015, 12:58:54 AM
It just looks from streetview like the sidewalks have all these bridges and things. Just making sure there wasn't some trick that I should know about.

No trick needed.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: 1050BU on November 18, 2015, 01:25:31 AM

It just looks from streetview like the sidewalks have all these bridges and things. Just making sure there wasn't some trick that I should know about.

No tricks. Only a couple blocks away. Very simple
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 01:26:27 AM
No trick needed.

No tricks. Only a couple blocks away. Very simple
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on November 18, 2015, 02:21:49 PM
Who's located outside KZ? Greyline? They didn't get great reviews on TA. Just wondering how you found them?

The fishing village is not something that is mind blowing, its just interesting to see (and there's an extra charge).

The reason why I picked this tour is because the guide gave a lot of good info and we got to cover a few places. I also found a place in Stanley market with great handbag knockoffs.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 02:27:52 PM
The fishing village is not something that is mind blowing, its just interesting to see (and there's an extra charge).

The reason why I picked this tour is because the guide gave a lot of good info and we got to cover a few places. I also found a place in Stanley market with great handbag knockoffs.
I guess the difference between Greyline and Big Bus is that Greyline is a guided tour where Big Bus is a hop-on-hop-off tour. The reason I'm leaning towards Big Bus is because I don't want to be bound by how long a tour wants to stay somewhere. Big Bus's come every 30 minutes, so I can stay in Stanley Market as long as I want. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on November 18, 2015, 02:33:31 PM
I guess the difference between Greyline and Big Bus is that Greyline is a guided tour where Big Bus is a hop-on-hop-off tour. The reason I'm leaning towards Big Bus is because I don't want to be bound by how long a tour wants to stay somewhere. Big Bus's come every 30 minutes, so I can stay in Stanley Market as long as I want. Does that make sense?

Stanley market is the last stop so you can stay if you want. The tour guide was pretty knowledgeable and being that this was the only tour I took, I am happy that I got all that info.

But you are correct about the timing. You have a specific amount in each place, tho I found it to be sufficient. I got amazing pix at the peak. Make sure you go on a clear day.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 18, 2015, 02:36:36 PM
Stanley market is the last stop so you can stay if you want. The tour guide was pretty knowledgeable and being that this was the only tour I took, I am happy that I got all that info.

But you are correct about the timing. You have a specific amount in each place, tho I found it to be sufficient. I got amazing pix at the peak. Make sure you go on a clear day.
As of now I have only 2 days I could possible go to the peak. I'll just have to hope the weather cooperates.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Bailbino on November 19, 2015, 02:19:36 PM
Hello Help!

does anyone know if you can get a Visa in hong Kong to go into mainland china expiated in china?
Same Day

Please let me know,

thank you,

Nathan-
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 19, 2015, 02:29:38 PM
Yes any hotel concierge should be able to do it for you
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Bailbino on November 19, 2015, 02:30:48 PM
Yes any hotel concierge should be able to do it for you

do you think sameday?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on December 06, 2015, 12:24:43 AM
We have a trip planned in a few weeks, arriving Friday at noon, departing Sunday at noon. Best I can tell, all the restaurents besides Mul Hayam won't be open. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, how far is the JCC from KZ?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 06, 2015, 12:27:08 AM
We have a trip planned in a few weeks, arriving Friday at noon, departing Sunday at noon. Best I can tell, all the restaurents besides Mul Hayam won't be open. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, how far is the JCC from KZ?
I can't imagine any restaurants will be open Friday afternoon or Sunday morning. KZ is is Kowloon while the JCC is on HKI.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Tom Brady on December 06, 2015, 09:16:58 AM
We have a trip planned in a few weeks, arriving Friday at noon, departing Sunday at noon. Best I can tell, all the restaurents besides Mul Hayam won't be open. Can anyone confirm this?
It looks like Seven Zero - the dairy restaurant at the JCC - should be open.  http://www.jcc.org.hk/news3-index.php
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on December 06, 2015, 11:27:12 AM
We have a trip planned in a few weeks, arriving Friday at noon, departing Sunday at noon. Best I can tell, all the restaurents besides Mul Hayam won't be open. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, how far is the JCC from KZ?

took about 45 min in a taxi. or you can take the subway which takes 10-15 min and is 1/10th of the price. OR you can take the star ferry.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on December 06, 2015, 02:08:05 PM
Thanks for all the helpful replies!
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 08, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
Does KZ charge for children (toddlers)? $150 is steep if they do.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 08, 2015, 11:05:38 AM
Does KZ charge for children (toddlers)? $150 is steep if they do.
I don't think toddler is an issue.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 08, 2015, 11:09:39 AM
I don't think toddler is an issue.
Is that a roundabout for saying no? Lol I'm not 100% sure.


Also question for the group...Im scheduled in the IHC for Thursday-Monday 12/24-12/28. Worth it to checkout and go to W Sat night-monday for 25k SPG a night (I'm only SPG gold so upgrade is slim)?   
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 08, 2015, 11:11:36 AM
Is that a roundabout for saying no? Lol I'm not 100% sure.


Also question for the group...Im scheduled in the IHC for Thursday-Monday 12/24-12/28. Worth it to checkout and go to W Sat night-monday for 25k SPG a night (I'm only SPG gold so upgrade is slim)?
Email them and ask.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 08, 2015, 11:12:56 AM
Is that a roundabout for saying no? Lol I'm not 100% sure.


Also question for the group...Im scheduled in the IHC for Thursday-Monday 12/24-12/28. Worth it to checkout and go to W Sat night-monday for 25k SPG a night (I'm only SPG gold so upgrade is slim)?
I'll be at the Sheraton for shabbos and had the same question about the W (same status too). Could be more of a pain checking out on shabbos (even if you have the SPG Biz card and have access to the lounge) than the W is worth, but others disagree.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 15, 2015, 12:40:50 AM
If anyone has been to HKG/CNX with 2 toddlers and is interested in helping me plan an detailed itinerary with me (for $$), please PM. Leaving next Wed IYH
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on December 15, 2015, 01:06:06 AM
Anyone have any info with bringing food into HKG? Have seen conflicting reports.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 15, 2015, 01:18:59 AM
Anyone have any info with bringing food into HKG? Have seen conflicting reports.
Why not just get all your food there? There's a kosher store and a few restaurants.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 15, 2015, 08:51:30 AM
Anyone have any info with bringing food into HKG? Have seen conflicting reports.
Why not just get all your food there? There's a kosher store and a few restaurants.
No reason to shlep food with you.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 15, 2015, 09:24:19 AM
No reason to shlep food with you.

+1
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 15, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
Whats normal price for prearranged pickup from HKG-IC? Uber a option?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 15, 2015, 11:12:38 AM
Whats normal price for prearranged pickup from HKG-IC? Uber a option?
Don't want to take the train?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 15, 2015, 11:15:46 AM
Don't want to take the train?
+1. The train seems to be the quickest and easiest option. That's what I plan on taking.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 15, 2015, 11:16:27 AM
Don't want to take the train?
16 hr flight + 2 toddlers + luggage = Hell no
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 15, 2015, 11:18:24 AM
16 hr flight + 2 toddlers + luggage = Hell no
Fair point. Traveling with just carry-ons without kids is quite different.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 15, 2015, 11:26:21 AM
Fair point. Traveling with just carry-ons without kids is quite different.
Thanks.

So back to my original question if anyone has any leads or experience please LMK.

Quote
Whats normal price for prearranged pickup from HKG-IC? Uber a option?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on December 15, 2015, 11:26:24 AM
16 hr flight + 2 toddlers + luggage = Hell no
Fair enough. I did it with one kid and the luggage piled on the stroller. Was not the easiest, but was simple enough.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 15, 2015, 11:27:36 AM
What's the question? Open the Uber app and get a quote.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 15, 2015, 11:34:48 AM
What's the question? Open the Uber app and get a quote.
I see the quotes.
Asking:
A. If anyone has any experience with Uber to/from HKG (as the price can sky rocket in traffic)
B. If anyone has a reliable driver in a van for a decent price that i can prearrange for a pickup.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 15, 2015, 11:38:33 AM
I took a taxi one-way and a train the other.
Taxis in HKG are pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on December 15, 2015, 11:39:51 AM
I took a taxi one-way and a train the other.
Taxis in HKG are pretty cheap.
Can I expect a long taxi line? Want to avoid that if possible. (i sound like a kvetch, but i will be a huge one after the flight)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 15, 2015, 12:27:22 PM
16 hr flight + 2 toddlers + luggage = Hell no

FTFM
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Chuck2 on December 15, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
If anyone has been to HKG/CNX with 2 toddlers and is interested in helping me plan an detailed itinerary with me (for $$), please PM. Leaving next Wed IYH
I went to HKG with a 1 year old
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 15, 2015, 07:34:56 PM
Got pictures of Seven Zero menu. Anyone care for them or just delete them?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 15, 2015, 07:36:53 PM
Post 'em.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 15, 2015, 07:47:12 PM
Post 'em.

Will do. They will be up shortly.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 15, 2015, 07:52:16 PM
I'll have more on it in my TR. It's in the same place the Waterside Restaurant was but just redone and enclosed. Looks nice. Food was good. Sign on the wall said last order for Friday is at 2:30pm.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5679/23670060872_23e2b88990.jpg)(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/609/23410593759_de0483fcbd.jpg)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/601/23696110981_ae45837a45.jpg)(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5820/23778549145_3107b877ce.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5791/23752418356_1d82d6b14b.jpg)
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 15, 2015, 08:06:40 PM
Thanks! That's the place in the JCC?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on December 15, 2015, 08:08:00 PM
Thanks! That's the place in the JCC?

Yes.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: an613 on December 15, 2015, 08:10:00 PM
The "salad bar" thing was delicious and great value - you get to refill your plate as much as you want
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 15, 2015, 08:13:39 PM
Yes.
This the recommended dairy lunch place?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on December 15, 2015, 10:14:27 PM
No reason to shlep food with you.

They don't have Pomegranate meals there and I already have the meals.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 15, 2015, 10:16:23 PM
They don't have Pomegranate meals there and I already have the meals.
Are you still in the US? It's really not worth the schlep. If you're already on Asia and you'd otherwise throw them out it's a different question.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on December 15, 2015, 11:45:38 PM
Are you still in the US? It's really not worth the schlep. If you're already on Asia and you'd otherwise throw them out it's a different question.

Still in the US, but am set on bringing them. Only question is what is the best way - declare them or not?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 15, 2015, 11:50:05 PM
Still in the US, but am set on bringing them. Only question is what is the best way - declare them or not?
Get un-set.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93 on December 16, 2015, 12:56:32 AM
Still in the US, but am set on bringing them. Only question is what is the best way - declare them or not?

Why are you set on bringing them?
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on December 16, 2015, 01:58:39 AM
Why are you set on bringing them?

Because my wife is looking forward to having good food on our trip. This is our first time using Pom meals.
Title: Re: Hong Kong Master Thread
Post by: D93</