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Title: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 19, 2013, 01:26:40 PM
What is the consensus on waiting for United award flights to open up.  For example the bargain 80,000 miles economy award flights on United for Lag Bomer time(april 24-30)from New york to tel aviv are only with stop overs in Turkey and Germany.  Is it worth waiting for non-stop flights from Newark to tel aviv to maybe open up or grab now(flights with stop over) what is available lest I get nothing
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on March 19, 2013, 01:29:13 PM
What is the consensus on waiting for United award flights to open up.  For example the bargain 80,000 miles economy award flights on United for Lag Bomer time(april 24-30)from New york to tel aviv are only with stop overs in Turkey and Germany.  Is it worth waiting for non-stop flights from Newark to tel aviv to maybe open up or grab now(flights with stop over) what is available lest I get nothing

Book what's available and check everyday to see if something opens up. You can change flights for free before its within 21 days.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 19, 2013, 04:28:15 PM
as per United rep though there is still a 75 fee per ticket if you change airline from lets say Turkish Airlines to United even though Turkish airlines is a star alliance member even before 21 days of departure date.  My questions was in general if its worth waiting a month before my intended departure date to see what award flights open up on United.  Is a month time still worth waiting.  Anybody has any experience with this?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: asher8190 on March 19, 2013, 04:43:35 PM
What is the consensus on waiting for United award flights to open up.  For example the bargain 80,000 miles economy award flights on United for Lag Bomer time(april 24-30)from New york to tel aviv are only with stop overs in Turkey and Germany.  Is it worth waiting for non-stop flights from Newark to tel aviv to maybe open up or grab now(flights with stop over) what is available lest I get nothing
I've seen them open up 1-3 days before the flight many times.
Though i would have to agree with sky121 Better safe than sorry!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 19, 2013, 04:51:13 PM
as per United rep though there is still a 75 fee per ticket if you change airline from lets say Turkish Airlines to United even though Turkish airlines is a star alliance member even before 21 days of departure date.
You were misinformed.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 19, 2013, 04:56:58 PM
Dan, I verified with a supervisor twice about 75 dollar fee for airline change.  Please provide me proof(link) that there is no fee if you change airlines before 21 days of departure date
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 19, 2013, 04:59:00 PM
Dan, I verified with a supervisor twice about 75 dollar fee for airline change.  Please provide me proof(link) that there is no fee if you change airlines before 21 days of departure date
I've done it for many people via the callback line.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dirah on March 19, 2013, 06:04:11 PM
Dan, I verified with a supervisor twice about 75 dollar fee for airline change.  Please provide me proof(link) that there is no fee if you change airlines before 21 days of departure date
It works the other way 'round, pal.
Next time you call UA, you ask them to provide proof (link) that there is a fee if you change airlines before 21 days of departure date
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on March 20, 2013, 05:42:00 AM
It works the other way 'round, pal.
Next time you call UA, you ask them to provide proof (link) that there is a fee if you change airlines before 21 days of departure date
Seems to be right here
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/ticketing.aspx

Adding, changing or deleting a connection, less than 21 days prior to departure(3)   $75   

Changing the cabin, award type, or changing a flight to a different airline, regardless of departure date(3)   $75   
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on March 20, 2013, 07:17:33 AM
Gotta question.
The CLE - EWR leg of our J award tik is in coach.
Assuming that preferred economy remain open, will they 'upgrade' us into these since we're anyhow entitled to biz class?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 20, 2013, 08:08:56 AM
Dan, I verified with a supervisor twice about 75 dollar fee for airline change.  Please provide me proof(link) that there is no fee if you change airlines before 21 days of departure date
He doesnt owe you anything. Feel free to volunteer to pay fees.

United policies and practices arent related to each other.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on March 20, 2013, 08:17:34 AM
United policies and practices arent related to each other.
So you agree that officially he has to pay the fee, but he should be able to slither out of it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 20, 2013, 08:23:06 AM
So you agree that officially he has to pay the fee, but he should be able to slither out of it?
I'm not entirely sure what the conversation is about, lately $75 fee is charged for route change within 21 days, $50 for same route within 21 days. The 50 is a mysterious charge not mentioned anywhere on the website AFAIK, but I'm not complaining
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on March 20, 2013, 08:26:59 AM
I'm not entirely sure what the conversation is about, lately $75 fee is charged for route change within 21 days, $50 for same route within 21 days. The 50 is a mysterious charge not mentioned anywhere on the website AFAIK, but I'm not complaining

My bad. I thought he said the fee was for outside of 21 days, not within them.
Dan's correct that no fee is applied if it's outside of 21 days.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Platinum on March 20, 2013, 10:22:58 AM
Gotta question.
The CLE - EWR leg of our J award tik is in coach.
Assuming that preferred economy remain open, will they 'upgrade' us into these since we're anyhow entitled to biz class?
I had a similar situation I called united and they changed my seat to preferred economy.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 20, 2013, 01:32:45 PM
Dan what is the "callback line." Are you saying that technically they can charge the 75 fee but with a callback they will accommodate?

Also what is you opinion on whether it is better to reserve now a flight with stop over in Turkey or waiting for non-stop from Newark to tel aviv to open up before scheduled departure date of April 24, 25??
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ez on March 21, 2013, 01:18:06 AM
Grab what's available now, very slim chance for direct lights NYC-TLV to open up during prime time as lag b'omer. My2c
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 21, 2013, 01:44:06 AM
Dan what is the "callback line." Are you saying that technically they can charge the 75 fee but with a callback they will accommodate?

Also what is you opinion on whether it is better to reserve now a flight with stop over in Turkey or waiting for non-stop from Newark to tel aviv to open up before scheduled departure date of April 24, 25??
If it's Turkish between JFK & IST, its better than United anyway.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on March 21, 2013, 03:13:24 AM
I had a similar situation I called united and they changed my seat to preferred economy.
I saw they have over 20-30 seats open, so I requested it for the 4 of us, and they said no.
They waitlisted us in biz, but only 4 seats are currently available, and the flight is in almost a month, so they probably won't clear.
But I'll ask again at the gate.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 21, 2013, 02:16:05 PM
My bad. I thought he said the fee was for outside of 21 days, not within them.
Dan's correct that no fee is applied if it's outside of 21 days.


not sure why you changed your mind. ???  Here is the official united policy

Changing the cabin, award type, or changing a flight to a different airline, regardless of departure date(3)   $75

This is pretty clear 75 dollars Regardless of departure date so if you change airlines like I pointed out from Turkish airlines to United within or outside 21 days you get charged.  Now if Dan is saying that can be waived if you call then that is something else.  Can someone confirm that is what Dan means but not sure why you backed down from the official United policy
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 21, 2013, 02:18:10 PM
If it's Turkish between JFK & IST, its better than United anyway.
  why is a stop over in istanbul  from JFK to tel aviv better than non stop from newark to tel aviv :o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on March 21, 2013, 07:56:55 PM
I saw they have over 20-30 seats open, so I requested it for the 4 of us, and they said no.
They waitlisted us in biz, but only 4 seats are currently available, and the flight is in almost a month, so they probably won't clear.
But I'll ask again at the gate.

I booked a flight for mom INLAW coach ATH JFK via. GVA . Too coach and check each day for Biz to
Open . How did you get waitlisted ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 22, 2013, 01:47:12 AM
  why is a stop over in istanbul  from JFK to tel aviv better than non stop from newark to tel aviv :o
Better service and seats. (in Business).
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 07, 2013, 09:23:44 PM
Didn't know where to put this so stuck it here.

I booked a last minute ticket for someone with 10k Saver.

When I confirmed his seat he was in 4d (EP) without me paying for it and it wasn't an elites account.

There were no regular economy seats left. Is that normal OR a UA glitch.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on April 07, 2013, 09:24:37 PM
Didn't know where to put this so stuck it here.

I booked a last minute ticket for someone with 10k Saver.

When I confirmed his seat he was in 4d (EP) without me paying for it and it wasn't an elites account.

There were no regular economy seats left. Is that normal OR a UA glitch.

Well if there was no other economy where did you expect them to put him?:)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 07, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Well if there was no other economy where did you expect them to put him?:)
I didn't expect them to sell me a ticket.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 07, 2013, 11:06:27 PM
I didn't expect them to sell me a ticket.

Airlines will almost always sell you a ticket. Overbooking is how they make money stay in business.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 07, 2013, 11:13:54 PM
Airlines will almost always sell you a ticket. Overbooking is how they make money stay in business.
Even an award ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 07, 2013, 11:28:44 PM
Even an award ticket?

I read too quickly, missed the award part.

In any event, the same logic would work for an award ticket, though admittedly I'd imagine its rarer.

E.g. if a flight has a 100 seats, and 100 seats are sold, odds dictate someone (or someones) will not show up. Being able to remove some miles from their balance sheet by way of booking someone in Y on an award serves the same purpose.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 07, 2013, 11:39:27 PM
I read too quickly, missed the award part.

In any event, the same logic would work for an award ticket, though admittedly I'd imagine its rarer.

E.g. if a flight has a 100 seats, and 100 seats are sold, odds dictate someone (or someones) will not show up. Being able to remove some miles from their balance sheet by way of booking someone in Y on an award serves the same purpose.
??

Which award gets booked in "Y" class.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 07, 2013, 11:44:08 PM
Y = shorthand for coach.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 07, 2013, 11:48:03 PM
Y = shorthand for coach.
Sorry, today I started learning about UAs different "classes"
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yo on April 08, 2013, 12:10:15 PM
Can you waitlist for first with united if saver award is available in economy when booking with krisflyer milage. Also what are the chances ewr-tlv opening up
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ez on April 08, 2013, 10:02:19 PM
Can you waitlist for first with united if saver award is available in economy when booking with krisflyer milage. Also what are the chances ewr-tlv opening up

Repost!! (No, I'm not J... but it still annoys)

EWR-TLV can be a tough route for award availability, best way is to check a few times a day.

Krisflyer or any partner can only book whatever United has available in saver.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yo on April 09, 2013, 08:54:11 PM
I want to waitlist for business classs by booking the economy saver award that is the question
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on April 19, 2013, 03:18:07 AM
I want to waitlist for business classs by booking the economy saver award that is the question

Book the economy and you can upgrade closer in if J opens up for a small fee  if within 21 days . That's if you want to be sure you have a reservation . That's what I did   GL
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 19, 2013, 05:59:03 AM
Book the economy and you can upgrade closer in if J opens up for a small fee  if within 21 days . That's if you want to be sure you have a reservation . That's what I did   GL

on partners too? or only UA ?
Can you do upgrade on line?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on April 19, 2013, 08:08:00 AM
On partners if J opens up. After u see it available you have to call to change and pay difference in points, plus change fees unless u have status

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on April 22, 2013, 09:59:28 AM


not sure why you changed your mind. ???  Here is the official united policy

Changing the cabin, award type, or changing a flight to a different airline, regardless of departure date(3)   $75

This is pretty clear 75 dollars Regardless of departure date so if you change airlines like I pointed out from Turkish airlines to United within or outside 21 days you get charged.  Now if Dan is saying that can be waived if you call then that is something else.  Can someone confirm that is what Dan means but not sure why you backed down from the official United policy

Getting back to this point - So what is the way to get them to waive the fee for changing the airline?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on April 22, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
Getting back to this point - So what is the way to get them to waive the fee for changing the airline?

Ask nicely? In general its about having patience to HUCA IME.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on April 22, 2013, 11:14:05 PM
Ask nicely? In general its about having patience to HUCA IME.

How do you get the US based customer service reps?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on April 23, 2013, 03:47:11 AM
How do you get the US based customer service reps?

Ask for them . Simply tell them you insist on speaking to someone in the States . I do it all
the time , cause offshore ruined 2 reservations .
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on April 23, 2013, 11:11:39 AM
I've done it for many people via the callback line.

Would you say this is the method to get the most capable/accommodating reps? If not, what is?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2013, 08:19:43 PM
About how long does it take for UA to ticket partner flights?

After how long should I be concerned if it hasn't ticketed yet?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 23, 2013, 08:25:57 PM
About how long does it take for UA to ticket partner flights?

After how long should I be concerned if it hasn't ticketed yet?
Was it over the phone or online?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2013, 08:31:52 PM
Was it over the phone or online?

Phone.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 24, 2013, 02:04:05 AM
About how long does it take for UA to ticket partner flights?

After how long should I be concerned if it hasn't ticketed yet?

i got my tkt e/m within an hour ----- keep in mind LH  is/was on strike

if I did not get in 24  hours  I would start following up with united
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on April 24, 2013, 03:37:09 PM
If i book a UA flight on points and i need to cancel (after 24 hrs) is there a fee? And does it make a diff if i have a club card?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 24, 2013, 03:39:27 PM
If i book a UA flight on points and i need to cancel (after 24 hrs) is there a fee? And does it make a diff if i have a club card?
1)Yes

2)No
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 24, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
$150, but you can change the dates for free.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on April 24, 2013, 03:49:45 PM
1)Yes

2)No

$150, but you can change the dates for free.
does this apply to all star alliance? (I know OT but WERE on the topic)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 24, 2013, 03:58:51 PM
does this apply to all star alliance? (I know OT but WERE on the topic)
Who ever you booked through (in your case UA), but if you book through US or AC, then no.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2013, 04:01:25 PM
does this apply to all star alliance? (I know OT but WERE on the topic)

Different rules for different airlines.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on April 24, 2013, 04:07:00 PM
Different rules for different airlines.
Who ever you booked through (in your case UA), but if you book through US or AC, then no.
so lets say US... Whats the award cancelation fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2013, 04:07:21 PM
so lets say US... Whats the award cancelation fee?

Come on, big boy.

GIYF.

http://www.usairways.com/en-US/dividendmiles/usemiles/booktravel.html
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on April 24, 2013, 04:09:14 PM
Come on, big boy.

GIYF.

http://www.usairways.com/en-US/dividendmiles/usemiles/booktravel.html
DI! ya your right. Sorry. Thanks man!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 24, 2013, 04:09:29 PM
so lets say US... Whats the award cancelation fee?
$150
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 28, 2013, 12:27:11 PM
Does anybody know how to get around the 1year award ticket validation ?
I validated a ticket last year in June then I pushed it off till the following year may , now I realize I won't be able to go till late aug , when I called to change they said the ticket is only valid for 1 year is there anyway around this ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SGF on April 28, 2013, 06:02:25 PM
Does anybody know how to get around the 1year award ticket validation ?
I validated a ticket last year in June then I pushed it off till the following year may , now I realize I won't be able to go till late aug , when I called to change they said the ticket is only valid for 1 year is there anyway around this ?
IIRC There is a workaround that was posted before, can't seem to find it
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 28, 2013, 07:08:08 PM
Any other ideas , please help
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on April 29, 2013, 12:45:26 AM
Just a Fyi in case anyone is interested. Both United flights EWR-TLV direct have 1 business seat available right now in business class
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on April 29, 2013, 07:31:55 AM
Just a Fyi in case anyone is interested. Both United flights EWR-TLV direct have 1 business seat available right now in business class
sorry meant to write for today Monday
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 29, 2013, 10:12:26 AM
Does anybody know how to get around the 1year award ticket validation ?
I validated a ticket last year in June then I pushed it off till the following year may , now I realize I won't be able to go till late aug , when I called to change they said the ticket is only valid for 1 year is there anyway around this ?
bump
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on April 29, 2013, 10:13:20 AM
bump

Try cancelling them without a fee. Get your miles back. Rebook.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 02:22:42 AM
I have a q; is it possible to book a star alliance flight which i see on UA on US AIRWAYS? Even though us and AA merged?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: robi on April 30, 2013, 02:28:56 AM
I have a q; is it possible to book a star alliance flight which i see on UA on US AIRWAYS? Even though us and AA merged?
PUTPAC  is the  best way with US starnet  blocking.  also they didn't merge yet, so you can still book *A
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 02:34:19 AM
Issue is i have no us miles  so im calling for naught. But the next q then can i use AA miles on a us flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: robi on April 30, 2013, 02:38:41 AM
Issue is i have no us miles  so im calling for naught. But the next q then can i use AA miles on a us flight?
not yet
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 02:40:30 AM
not yet
thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on May 21, 2013, 02:16:25 PM
I need 2 tickets today from LAS-EWR on a 3 pm flight. There are now 9 revenue seats available for purchase in economy. What's the chances they open them up for rewards? And when will they do it?
Or is it a option to book at later reward flight that has a connection on a saver award and then go standby on the earlier direct flight ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on June 03, 2013, 07:17:58 AM
Looks like they've tightened up routing rules.
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2013/06/02/uniteds-newish-routing-restrictions-for-travel-between-the-us-and-asia-via-europe/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: U-no-me! on June 09, 2013, 07:15:19 PM
I see an LH flight 8 days out which shows as available on the United site, but when calling to book they are saying that it's not true-time availabilty. Does that mean that it was at one point available, it's going to be available or does it not mean anything?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on June 09, 2013, 07:17:37 PM
I see an LH flight 8 days out which shows as available on the United site, but when calling to book they are saying that it's not true-time availabilty. Does that mean that it was at one point available, it's going to be available or does it not mean anything?
It means its not available.
Dan had luck with this by crying how disapointed he is.
Ask him for more details.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: U-no-me! on June 09, 2013, 07:19:32 PM
It means its not available.
Dan had luck with this by crying how disapointed he is.
Ask him for more details.

It's just a fluke in the system? or was it at one point available?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on June 09, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
It's just a fluke in the system? or was it at one point available?
Who knows.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: U-no-me! on June 09, 2013, 07:22:37 PM
Dan had luck with this by crying how disapointed he is.
Ask him for more details.

@Dan, Details?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 09, 2013, 07:30:32 PM
Dan had luck with this by crying how disapointed he is.

The loss of phantom availability is a real loss for those who knew how to exploit it...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on June 09, 2013, 07:37:01 PM
The loss of phantom availability is a real loss for those who knew how to exploit it...
But YouKnowMe claims it still exists.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 09, 2013, 07:56:03 PM
But YouKnowMe claims it still exists.

Was cut down tremendously. Doesn't mean there aren't still gaps...

...which are exploitable.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: U-no-me! on June 10, 2013, 03:46:48 AM
Was cut down tremendously. Doesn't mean there aren't still gaps...

What exactly is your point?

...which are exploitable.

You've made that comment twice already, what exactly are you adding that meshugenner didn't already do above?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: U-no-me! on June 10, 2013, 12:16:22 PM
Dan had luck with this by crying how disapointed he is.
Ask him for more details.

Bump

@Dan?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 12:18:20 PM
(http://i073.radikal.ru/1111/0f/baeeaaaffc6f.jpg)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2013, 12:18:51 PM
It's not personal, some things are better left unsaid when on the world wide interwebs.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: U-no-me! on June 10, 2013, 12:22:45 PM
It's not personal, some things are better left unsaid when on the world wide interwebs.

 :'(  If only my PM's would be working...

BTW, Cute pic.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2013, 12:27:24 PM
(http://i073.radikal.ru/1111/0f/baeeaaaffc6f.jpg)

Oh how this will come in handy...  :D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 13, 2013, 02:37:25 AM
Oh how this will come in handy...  :D
+100   This gets a bookmark!   :D :D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: baller0960 on June 13, 2013, 02:48:35 PM
If it's Turkish between JFK & IST, its better than United anyway.
Why is that ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: travel247 on June 13, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
Book what's available and check everyday to see if something opens up. You can change flights for free before its within 21 days.
FYI all, I just made changes from UA to AC back and forth a few times in the past week for travel in August from EWR to YVR switching airlines and cabins from business to economy etc.. no fees at all! (some done online others done on phone with United- no specific #)

***Great story- I am travelling with my wife and 4 yr old- 3 passengers- and I wanted to switch to a flight that only had 2 award seats. I did the 2BM and it only allowed my res. through for 2 seats and not my wife who was on a separate res. I had gotten both browsers to the last page where there's a button that says confirm change etc.. Yet when I hit it for my wife it said error (obivious as only 2 seats had been open). I called United right away, who kept me on phone for 20 minutes while they did a detailed review with the support desk as to whether the seat was "open" for my wife when I started the process online. They confirmed that it was and manually put her in the flight even though award saver was not available!!!***
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on June 14, 2013, 05:14:03 AM
FYI all, I just made changes from UA to AC back and forth a few times in the past week for travel in August from EWR to YVR switching airlines and cabins from business to economy etc.. no fees at all! (some done online others done on phone with United- no specific #)

***Great story- I am travelling with my wife and 4 yr old- 3 passengers- and I wanted to switch to a flight that only had 2 award seats. I did the 2BM and it only allowed my res. through for 2 seats and not my wife who was on a separate res. I had gotten both browsers to the last page where there's a button that says confirm change etc.. Yet when I hit it for my wife it said error (obivious as only 2 seats had been open). I called United right away, who kept me on phone for 20 minutes while they did a detailed review with the support desk as to whether the seat was "open" for my wife when I started the process online. They confirmed that it was and manually put her in the flight even though award saver was not available!!!***

Great info . I tried this once and gave up when I got the error . Will call next time
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: YankyDoodle on June 14, 2013, 08:13:28 AM
FYI all, I just made changes from UA to AC back and forth a few times in the past week for travel in August from EWR to YVR switching airlines and cabins from business to economy etc.. no fees at all! (some done online others done on phone with United- no specific #)

***Great story- I am travelling with my wife and 4 yr old- 3 passengers- and I wanted to switch to a flight that only had 2 award seats. I did the 2BM and it only allowed my res. through for 2 seats and not my wife who was on a separate res. I had gotten both browsers to the last page where there's a button that says confirm change etc.. Yet when I hit it for my wife it said error (obivious as only 2 seats had been open). I called United right away, who kept me on phone for 20 minutes while they did a detailed review with the support desk as to whether the seat was "open" for my wife when I started the process online. They confirmed that it was and manually put her in the flight even though award saver was not available!!!***

This must have been on United metal?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: travel247 on June 14, 2013, 10:23:52 AM
Actually it was in reference to switching from UA metal to AC metal!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on June 14, 2013, 10:27:28 AM
I've had the experience once with UA where they called LH to open a seat for me. In that scenario I got a UA rep to book me as waitlisted and then called back and got UA to actually book it.

           
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: YankyDoodle on June 14, 2013, 11:23:17 AM
Actually it was in reference to switching from UA metal to AC metal!

Wow, impressive!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: travel247 on June 19, 2013, 11:58:46 AM
This was great for tickets booked until June 19th. New tickets are now $75 change fees for non-elites!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: gtyossi on June 19, 2013, 12:13:13 PM
I am looking to book an award ticket from DTW to LGA on Aug 25 and returning Aug 26. I have UR, MR and Delta points. I want to leave early in the morning and return in the evening on the 26th. What are the best points to use. The only real availability I see are Delta for 32,500 points. Is there a better option to transfer the UR or MR points?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ez on June 19, 2013, 12:15:35 PM
I am looking to book an award ticket from DTW to LGA on Aug 25 and returning Aug 26. I have UR, MR and Delta points. I want to leave early in the morning and return in the evening on the 26th. What are the best points to use. The only real availability I see are Delta for 32,500 points. Is there a better option to transfer the UR or MR points?

Please post here.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on June 27, 2013, 11:03:26 PM
Left side is my wife's United account, and right side is my account.
Is there any reason Saver Award is not available in my account for 11:29 AM?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2013, 11:07:03 PM
XN?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on June 27, 2013, 11:21:15 PM
XN?
That?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Night+Blindness
http://www.acronymfinder.com/XN.html

?
Just don't get what you mean.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2013, 11:25:05 PM
That?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Night+Blindness
http://www.acronymfinder.com/XN.html

?
Just don't get what you mean.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20512.msg310239#msg310239
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on June 27, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20512.msg310239#msg310239

Dan likes to save words and be cryptic, so I will explain it as I have a Q10 and typing is a breeze ;-). Elites and Chase UA Club Card members (maybe explorers, not sure) have access to award inventory not available to others. That class is listed as XN (X is regular award economy). XN is available to elites and club members only. Now, is the account showing availability an elite or club card member?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2013, 11:44:38 PM
Dan likes to save words and be cryptic, so I will explain it as I have a Q10 and typing is a breeze ;-). Elites and Chase UA Club Card members (maybe explorers, not sure) have access to award inventory not available to others. That class is listed as XN (X is regular award economy). XN is available to elites and club members only. Now, is the account showing availability an elite or club card member?
Excellent, I always wanted a meturgeman.

Pretty good, but XN is also for explorer cardholders as well.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on June 28, 2013, 12:36:06 AM
XN?
    Elites get access to ‘XN’, ‘IN’, and ‘ON’ to the extent those will ever be greater than the standard X, I, and O.
Dan i thought you see the WHOLE picture.
Didn't you see the 2.5$ in my account (UC) as opposite to 77.5$ in my wife's account ( UMPE )?
But still there is more availability in my wife's account!     
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2013, 12:37:24 AM
Didn't open your picture, just took a guess.
I'd try in another browser.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 01, 2013, 01:51:46 PM
I booked a paid ticket on United, EWR-LAX how many points do i need to have to be upgraded @ the gate?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: 12HRS on July 02, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
Didn't know where to put this without starting a new thread so..

I Planned on booking a one way flight JFK-LAX on TLV with my 2 $100 united gift cards when I realized that I am only allowed to use 1 gc per purchase. Since I am booking for me and my wife and there are plenty of seats available right now I am considering booking seperately and just seating us next to each other.

However since I am premier silver plus I have the United Card I find I frequently get upgraded to e+, it has even happened to me at the gate as I was boarding.

What are the odds that I get upgraded without me knowing about it at the last minute and not being able to sit by my wife? Would you book this way? Both purchases would still use the united CC, just I have status as well.

Also - Could this screenshot be correct when it says sold out? It just means they have not opened up availability yet correct?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: YankyDoodle on July 04, 2013, 02:21:49 AM
What are the odds that I get upgraded without me knowing about it at the last minute and not being able to sit by my wife?

Just decline the upgrade/offer to change seats with the person who they placed next to your wife.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 04, 2013, 09:16:15 PM
I am looking to fly Sunday 07/07 EWR - TLV united businessfirst. Right now they are showing 11 seats on the 10:45 pm flight avail. For revenue. Does anyone know when they will open that for saver rewards?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on July 04, 2013, 09:24:56 PM
Sometime on Sunday
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 04, 2013, 09:26:04 PM
Sometime on Sunday
Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 05, 2013, 12:02:30 AM
I am looking to fly Sunday 07/07 EWR - TLV united businessfirst. Right now they are showing 11 seats on the 10:45 pm flight avail. For revenue. Does anyone know when they will open that for saver rewards?
Btw just checked and there is 12 available seats... so u might have luck!!!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 05, 2013, 12:03:28 AM
Btw just checked and there is 12 available seats... so u might have luck!!!
thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 05, 2013, 12:19:10 AM
I am looking to fly Sunday 07/07 EWR - TLV united businessfirst. Right now they are showing 11 seats on the 10:45 pm flight avail. For revenue. Does anyone know when they will open that for saver rewards?
Btw was always wondering, is the availability that we are seeing on the United website @ the seat map accurate?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 05, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
I'm seeing some United 757-200 aircrafts routing JFK-LAX having 2 type of seats in biz. class some pic. are oval and some pictures are Boxxy, any differents? is there a differents in price/miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on July 05, 2013, 12:33:14 AM
I'm seeing some United 757-200 aircrafts routing JFK-EWR having 2 type of seats in biz. class some pic. are oval and some pictures are Boxxy, any differents? is there a differents in price/miles?
Oval = Lie flat
Boxy = Angle
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 05, 2013, 12:43:20 AM
Oval = Lie flat
Boxy = Angle
So how come im seeing tons of flights that the boxy seats are taken when there is still oval seats avail.? are ppl not aware of that, and paying 3k dollars for a biz. class ticket, and taking the angle not the flat bed????
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 05, 2013, 01:24:29 PM
If I'm waiting for saver business availability on a United Non Stop flight to open up, does it pay to book the seats as a paid ticket and then plan to cancel on the day before to free up the seats?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 05, 2013, 01:56:53 PM
If I'm waiting for saver business availability on a United Non Stop flight to open up, does it pay to book the seats as a paid ticket and then plan to cancel on the day before to free up the seats?
U can but u will not get back ur money, you will be able to use it for a different flight, plus u will have to add a 200 dollars service charge... I am in this sitch. now, im working to get a full refund, my claim is that my wife is preg. so we can not fly economy.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 05, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
U can but u will not get back ur money, you will be able to use it for a different flight, plus u will have to add a 200 dollars service charge... I am in this sitch. now, im working to get a full refund, my claim is that my wife is preg. so we can not fly economy.

I'm referring to a J class fare.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 05, 2013, 02:32:02 PM
Im seeing on United a thing called fare lock to hold award tickets, is it as simple, that it holdes the availability for me till im getting my miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 05, 2013, 02:49:21 PM

Im seeing on United a thing called fare lock to hold award tickets, is it as simple, that it holdes the availability for me till im getting my miles?

Up to 7 days
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on July 05, 2013, 03:07:44 PM
If I'm waiting for saver business availability on a United Non Stop flight to open up, does it pay to book the seats as a paid ticket and then plan to cancel on the day before to free up the seats?
Why would you do that?

Unless you are willing to pay for a J ticket.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 06, 2013, 10:30:24 PM

Why would you do that?

Unless you are willing to pay for a J ticket.

I was thinking it might be a way to increase the chances of saver business being opened up, if I release the seats the day before.

In this instance I have a non-direct flight already, and I'm hoping to get saver availability on this UA flight. I figure that my chances for getting saver are better if I can guarantee that there are open seats by the day before.

I was wondering if anyone had tried this method and had success or otherwise.

The only downside would be locking up the money for that period of time.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 09, 2013, 06:54:58 PM
Does anyone know of any other downsides or can confirm upside to this method?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 09, 2013, 10:36:41 PM
Can I book a saver award economy ticket, and then if business saver is opening up call them up and change it to business by adding the additional points, is there a fee for doing that?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on July 09, 2013, 10:39:55 PM
Can I book a saver award economy ticket, and then if business saver is opening up call them up and change it to business by adding the additional points, is there a fee for doing that?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 10, 2013, 12:46:11 AM

Yes.

ALOL
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 10, 2013, 06:24:15 PM
If I'm waiting for saver business availability on a United Non Stop flight to open up, does it pay to book the seats as a paid ticket and then plan to cancel on the day before to free up the seats?

I was thinking it might be a way to increase the chances of saver business being opened up, if I release the seats the day before.
In this instance I have a non-direct flight already, and I'm hoping to get saver availability on this UA flight. I figure that my chances for getting saver are better if I can guarantee that there are open seats by the day before.
I was wondering if anyone had tried this method and had success or otherwise.
The only downside would be locking up the money for that period of time.

Anyone?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 24, 2013, 06:38:36 PM
Anyone?
got ur answer?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on July 24, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
I booked a UA award 22 hours ago FRA-NYC. I totally forgot to add a "free" ticket to somewhere else in the USA. Is that even possible? Or just with AA?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 24, 2013, 10:34:51 PM
I booked a UA award 22 hours ago FRA-NYC. I totally forgot to add a "free" ticket to somewhere else in the USA. Is that even possible? Or just with AA?

Officially possible on a RT only.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on July 24, 2013, 10:38:43 PM
Officially possible on a RT only.

It is a RT.

Will there be a change fee for me to add a flight? Can it be to the 50 USA or only 48?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 24, 2013, 11:34:17 PM
Gotta do it within the first 24 hours or change fee.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on July 25, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
Gotta do it within the first 24 hours or change fee.

Got it in with 3 minuets to spare. I added EWR-LAX in first for free. Thanks AJK
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 25, 2013, 12:32:34 AM
YW!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 09:05:19 PM
United website is showing a flight leaving TLV- EWR July 29 at 4 pm.  The entire flight looks empty and its not showing available to book with rewards. Can someone explain ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on July 28, 2013, 09:08:32 PM
How do u know its empty?
KVS tool or  The seat map ? 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 09:09:02 PM
How do u know its empty?
KVS tool or  The seat map ?
seat map
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 09:13:09 PM
It's either a computer glitch or united needs to get a plane back to EWR. I have never seen such availabity A night before the flight
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 09:22:36 PM
It's either a computer glitch or united needs to get a plane back to EWR. I have never seen such availabity A night before the flight
its because a cancelled flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 09:23:58 PM
its because a cancelled flight.
They canceled the 10:45 am ? And why all the availabity? Did they not rebook everyone ? Please explain
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on July 28, 2013, 09:32:23 PM
seat map

Seat maps are worthless I have been told , by much more experienced travellers than myself .
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 09:33:26 PM
Seat maps are worthless I have been told , by much more experienced travellers than myself .
okay. But they are allowing to book for 9 passengers in biz. So I guess those seats are avail
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 09:54:12 PM
okay. But they are allowing to book for 9 passengers in biz. So I guess those seats are avail
Seat maps may be worthless but when you see a flight which 95 percent seats are open it means something.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:04:14 PM
They canceled the 10:45 am ? And why all the availabity? Did they not rebook everyone ? Please explain
AFAIK United is replacing the flight from @ night that has bin cancelled, with this flight, but they are not automatically putting ppl from the cancelled flight on to this one, when ppl from isreal will wake up this morning and see that their flight was cancelled they will probably rebook to the 4:00 flight, ant thats why United is not opening the flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 10:08:00 PM
AFAIK United is replacing the flight from @ night that has bin cancelled, with this flight, but they are not automatically putting ppl from the cancelled flight on to this one, when ppl from isreal will wake up this morning and see that their flight was cancelled they will probably rebook to the 4:00 flight, ant thats why United is not opening the flight.
  the 1045 pm on the 29th was cancelled. But that was replaced with a 1220 am on the 30th
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:15:32 PM
  the 1045 pm on the 29th was cancelled. But that was replaced with a 1220 am on the 30th
Sorry tried my best.... in NY the flight was also cancelled, i believe it haves to do something with the cancelled flights.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 10:16:38 PM
Sorry tried my best.... in NY the flight was also cancelled, i believe it haves to do something with the cancelled flights.
ok. Thanks. Trying to get a flight for a friend of mine with rewards. Will try to see if it opens
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:23:04 PM
ok. Thanks. Trying to get a flight for a friend of mine with rewards. Will try to see if it opens
whenever they added a flight suddenly, as it was last week, they didnt open up saver award even if it was showing availibilaty, close to the flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:25:47 PM
BTW from TLV-EWR there is MUCH harder to find availibilaty then from EWR-TLV either on United or even with stop overs, any idea why this is?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 10:27:55 PM
BTW from TLV-EWR there is MUCH harder to find availibilaty then from EWR-TLV either on United or even with stop overs, any idea why this is?
no never realized that
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:33:13 PM
no never realized that
so check.... look on the August calender for both legs.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:35:32 PM
on July it was even more obvious... August is very busy.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:38:55 PM
BTW it was open today for a short period of time flights from United TLV-EWR for monday.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cashman on July 28, 2013, 10:39:41 PM
BTW it was open today for a short period of time flights from United TLV-EWR for monday.
I know by the time I put in cc info ticket was gone
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 28, 2013, 10:56:46 PM
I know by the time I put in cc info ticket was gone
for that reason i always have all info in profile so it goes faster.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on July 29, 2013, 10:04:03 AM
What is the maximum united award domestic connection, 4 hours or 24 hours?.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 29, 2013, 12:21:46 PM
Officially, 4.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SearchGuy on July 29, 2013, 01:13:07 PM
If i transfer my UR points into someone else's United 1K account (avoid last minute fee's) and i book my tickets through that account is this considered sold miles and can cause his account to get closed?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 29, 2013, 01:16:48 PM
It's not "sold," but if UA shuts down the account and you say you only did it to avoid the close-in fee, I'm not sure they'd view it any more favorably.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 01:24:06 PM
In general, is it a problem to make a award booking from my mileage account for someone else?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SearchGuy on July 29, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
It's not "sold," but if UA shuts down the account and you say you only did it to avoid the close-in fee, I'm not sure they'd view it any more favorably.
But it's not against the t&c
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 29, 2013, 01:28:59 PM
In general, is it a problem to make a award booking from my mileage account for someone else?

You cannot sell your miles.

Airlines view multiple bookings with different names from one account suspiciously.

You do the math.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 01:43:31 PM
You cannot sell your miles.

Airlines view multiple bookings with different names from one account suspiciously.

You do the math.
family with same last name is safer?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SearchGuy on July 29, 2013, 01:47:07 PM
family with same last name is safer?
+1 I'm talking about my brothers account
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 01:50:55 PM
+1 I'm talking about my brothers account
Just did some tickets from my account for family. b"H no problems.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 29, 2013, 02:20:12 PM
Yes, less risky.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 08:03:15 PM
Can one please explain what open jaw means?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: daganster on July 29, 2013, 08:04:40 PM
Can one please explain what open jaw means?
e.g. JFK- TLV   AMM -JFK
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
e.g. JFK- TLV   AMM -JFK
Please explain.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 29, 2013, 09:52:46 PM
Please explain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-jaw_ticket
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 09:53:55 PM
when i find avail. lets say NYC-FRA with a stop, then FRA-TLV in biz. class, when I look on every ticket separate, it will cost much more then 60,000 miles, but can i call United and they will piece it together for me as NYC-TLV and just charge me 60,000 miles (in total it includes 2 stops.)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: daganster on July 29, 2013, 09:59:21 PM
Please explain.
You're returning from a different city. On AA e.g. it's irrelevant because you always book OW tickets. On DL it could make sense, and also on UA because you're entitled to a stopover and an open jaw on a RT ticket.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 10:06:55 PM
You're returning from a different city. On AA e.g. it's irrelevant because you always book OW tickets. On DL it could make sense, and also on UA because you're entitled to a stopover and an open jaw on a RT ticket.
so for a one way ticket it's irrelevant? Also on united where I can make one ways for half amount of miles I can make right away the returning ticket from a different city?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on July 29, 2013, 10:11:22 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mow on July 29, 2013, 10:30:32 PM
I see availability for the day I want , the flights are after midnight on air Canada with a stopover in Canada then to ny
But when I search on united awards only flights after 6 am show up ( I tried both days ) is there a way how to get them to show up
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SearchGuy on July 29, 2013, 10:32:22 PM
How close to the flight can i expect United to open more savor award seats for domestic flights?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2013, 10:49:33 PM
How close to the flight can i expect United to open more savor award seats for domestic flights?
NYC-LAX Ive always seen about a day before. especial for J class.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on July 30, 2013, 10:30:02 AM
when i find avail. lets say NYC-FRA with a stop, then FRA-TLV in biz. class, when I look on every ticket separate, it will cost much more then 60,000 miles, but can i call United and they will piece it together for me as NYC-TLV and just charge me 60,000 miles (in total it includes 2 stops.)
sure. Bit not after its already booked as two separate reservations.
Its something you would want to do even without the difference in price, if you don't want to claim baggage in FRA and checkin again.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 30, 2013, 11:15:49 AM
sure. Bit not after its already booked as two separate reservations.
Its something you would want to do even without the difference in price, if you don't want to claim baggage in FRA and checkin again.
Is it no problem that there is 2 stop overs, and United just allows 1 stop over? or it is count as a CONNECTION  not a stop?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 30, 2013, 11:56:56 AM
If i flew lets say 25,000 miles to earn silver status next year, can i use this miles now for a award flight, and still get the silver status?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on July 30, 2013, 12:23:53 PM
@ilherman:
If its less than 24 hours they consider it a connection on int'l trips.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 30, 2013, 03:10:41 PM
Can I have overlapping itineraries booked, or will it cancel out?

I have both tickets already, I'm just wondering if it's going to wreak havoc closer in.

My goal is to cancel the paid ticket 36 hours before the flight and see if Saver Business opens up. Otherwise I will just take my (already booked) stopover award flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 06:49:49 PM
Can I have overlapping itineraries booked, or will it cancel out?

I have both tickets already, I'm just wondering if it's going to wreak havoc closer in.

My goal is to cancel the paid ticket 36 hours before the flight and see if Saver Business opens up. Otherwise I will just take my (already booked) stopover award flight.
Dan claims its risky to do that.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 06:57:38 PM
Gold status with United is officially giving you free upgrades 48 hours before the flight, is this as simple? If there is available business class seats 48 hours before the flight Will i clear? they will not try to sell it till the last minute? (trying to help out a friend that is flying a lot he had no idea about miles/status, when I checked his account now I'm seeing he haves gold status with about 100,000 miles!!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mochada on August 04, 2013, 07:53:01 PM
Gold status with United is officially giving you free upgrades 48 hours before the flight, is this as simple? If there is available business class seats 48 hours before the flight Will i clear? they will not try to sell it till the last minute? (trying to help out a friend that is flying a lot he had no idea about miles/status, when I checked his account now I'm seeing he haves gold status with about 100,000 miles!!

IME it occurs based on availability and ranking amongst fellow passengers, it is not guaranteed.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
IME it occurs based on availability and ranking amongst fellow passengers, it is not guaranteed.
So if 48 prior to flight there is available biz. class seats and there is no higher elites then me, will i get the seat? in other words when there is saver awards available 24 hours before the fligh this means that all gold members cleared already? (i dont think there is any post or thread for this topic, if yes please advise.)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mochada on August 04, 2013, 08:26:50 PM
So if 48 prior to flight there is available biz. class seats and there is no higher elites then me, will i get the seat? in other words when there is saver awards available 24 hours before the fligh this means that all gold members cleared already? (i dont think there is any post or thread for this topic, if yes please advise.)

Nothing is guaranteed.
If you get an email, you've been upgraded.  If you don't, you're not upgraded.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on August 04, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
Dan claims its risky to do that.

Do you have the marei mekomos for that?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 04, 2013, 10:14:41 PM
Do you have the marei mekomos for that?

Here:

I wouldn't recommend that as a strategy, I'd hate to hear from people losing their mileage accounts over something stupid like that.

And later:

They're far more sophisticated then that. Don't come crying when you're blacklisted.

And I concurred:

+1

UA has a department called Revenue Integrity. As a travel agent, I've run afoul of them in the past, and let me tell you: they're veeeeery good at connecting the dots.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 10:15:58 PM
Do you have the marei mekomos for that?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1894.150
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 10:19:25 PM
My question is, per the T&C from United, do they have to upgrade a gold member 48 hours before the flight if there is avail. seats in biz. class? (not what my chances are?)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Brian on August 04, 2013, 11:17:57 PM
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My question is, per the T&C from United, do they have to upgrade a gold member 48 hours before the flight if there is avail. seats in biz. class? (not what my chances are?)

United will only upgrade you if there is "R" class avail. Saver award is "!" or "IN" which has nothing to do with the avail. of "R" class.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 11:20:57 PM

United will only upgrade you if there is "R" class avail. Saver award is "!" or "IN" which has nothing to do with the avail. of "R" class.
What is R class, if i may ask? and where can i know if its avail.?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Brian on August 04, 2013, 11:26:59 PM
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What is R class, if i may ask? and where can i know if its avail.?
“R” is the booking class that represents upgrade space from Economy to the next cabin level.
You could find it on ua.com after searching for a ticket by clicking on fare class. or expertflyer and similar sites will search for it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 11:43:38 PM
“R” is the booking class that represents upgrade space from Economy to the next cabin level.
You could find it on ua.com after searching for a ticket by clicking on fare class. or expertflyer and similar sites will search for it.
When do they open this up? in Dec. do i have a chance to get upgraded?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Brian on August 04, 2013, 11:50:34 PM
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When do they open this up?
Every flight is different, they will open it up when they think they can't sell it, and that no one will get it as a saver award, and that they can't offer it to non elites to buy a cheap upgrade before the flight. Were are you fling
Quote
in Dec. do i have a chance to get upgraded?
From where to where?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 04, 2013, 11:55:21 PM
Every flight is different, they will open it up when they think they can't sell it, and that no one will get it as a saver award, and that they can't offer it to non elites to buy a cheap upgrade before the flight. Were are you fling From where to where?
NYC-TLV BTW do i get upgrades on international flights?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Brian on August 05, 2013, 12:08:03 AM
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NYC-TLV BTW do i get upgrades on international flights?
Only if you use GPU (you get them if you are 1k) or with miles and co pay.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 05, 2013, 12:13:36 AM
Only if you use GPU (you get them if you are 1k) or with miles and co pay.
So if im just gold i can not get a free upgrade NYC-TLV?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 05, 2013, 12:14:25 AM
Where can I find  a list detailing all type of fares?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Brian on August 05, 2013, 12:17:10 AM
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Where can I find  a list detailing all type of fares?
I don't know which sites I could refer which not. Google "List and Description of All United Airlines Fare Classes".
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on August 05, 2013, 12:21:52 AM
Where can I find  a list detailing all type of fares?

Enjoy. - http://cwsi.net/m/united.htm

Next remember GIYF
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 05, 2013, 12:47:59 AM
So if im just gold i can not get a free upgrade NYC-TLV?

No.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on August 05, 2013, 02:06:50 AM
Where can I find  a list detailing all type of fares?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20512.msg310230#msg310230
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on August 05, 2013, 09:51:06 AM
Us it possible to get a clueless rep to piece together a return from Europe to NYC via TLV with a 12 hour stop for without an increase in miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: aviz on August 07, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
Do you get a free bag checked (if you have the United explorer card) , when booking an award ticket, and using the card to pay the $5 fee ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: TDweck on August 07, 2013, 12:10:19 PM
sorry if there is another thread on this but I cant find it.  Is there anyway around the $200 United award cancel fee to re deposit miles?  Non elite.  Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on August 07, 2013, 12:12:18 PM
sorry if there is another thread on this but I cant find it.  Is there anyway around the $200 United award cancel fee to re deposit miles?  Non elite.  Thanks

Doctors note? Or a good reason you cancelled? Will knock it down to $50.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: TDweck on August 07, 2013, 12:15:35 PM
Doctors note? Or a good reason you cancelled? Will knock it down to $50.

I am sick.  Shall I call and tell them?  Every time I call they send me to india.  They don't seem to be so kind.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on August 07, 2013, 12:20:19 PM
Go to united.com/refunds
  I believe you can do it online. A doctor's note helps.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 07, 2013, 01:15:36 PM
I am sick.  Shall I call and tell them?  Every time I call they send me to india.  They don't seem to be so kind.
You can try email customercare@united.com or try 'have united call you' this reps are USA based reps.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 07, 2013, 01:17:24 PM
Go to united.com/refunds
  I believe you can do it online. A doctor's note helps.
I am in the same sitch. now, do they call up the doctor to confirm? or can I make my om note?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 09, 2013, 12:02:09 AM
When making a RT booking which is in the 21 days of dept. i will pay just 1 close in fee, VS when making a RT in 2 one ways lets say NYC-TLV TLV-NYC which haves to be done like this bec. they open just close to the flight, so im paying 2 times the close in fee, is there any way after i complete my trip, to get back 1 close in fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on August 10, 2013, 10:09:46 PM
What happens when a waitlisted flight approves you? I just got the waitlist update confirmation email, saying I can now fly home non stop. But in the months of waiting we made plans for the stopover city, so I'm not sure I want this flight anymore.

Can I decline without reissuing my ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 11, 2013, 10:29:17 AM
You can try email customercare@united.com or try 'have united call you' this reps are USA based reps.

Inaccurate. It's totally luck of the draw who you will get through to.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 11, 2013, 10:30:48 AM
I am in the same sitch. now, do they call up the doctor to confirm? or can I make my om note?

Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But is it worth risking going to jail for fraud for $150?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 11, 2013, 10:31:12 AM
When making a RT booking which is in the 21 days of dept. i will pay just 1 close in fee, VS when making a RT in 2 one ways lets say NYC-TLV TLV-NYC which haves to be done like this bec. they open just close to the flight, so im paying 2 times the close in fee, is there any way after i complete my trip, to get back 1 close in fee?

No.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 11, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
What happens when a waitlisted flight approves you? I just got the waitlist update confirmation email, saying I can now fly home non stop. But in the months of waiting we made plans for the stopover city, so I'm not sure I want this flight anymore.

Can I decline without reissuing my ticket?

Your ticket has to be "reissued" either way. But when you call, you can tell them you'd rather keep your old flights, and ask them to reissue it as it was.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on August 13, 2013, 03:49:34 AM

Your ticket has to be "reissued" either way. But when you call, you can tell them you'd rather keep your old flights, and ask them to reissue it as it was.

I was able to keep all my seat assignments with partner airlines.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on August 19, 2013, 05:59:51 PM
I am trying to book a trip way in advance using UA miles on AC. But UA only lists 11 months out while AC from what I can see lists 12 months. Is there anyway around this? I guess this is an advantage to using Aeroplan miles?
Title: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on August 19, 2013, 06:12:37 PM
I have a reservation which I changed one of the flights from Business to Economy, the rep I spoke to refunded all the miles (87,500) instead of just 12,500 for the business portion but didn't cancel the ticket. The ticket is still ticketed and confirmed. Lets see what happens. Already made a dummy ticket with those (87,500) miles so United can't pull the miles back without calling first. Lets see what happens and if it stays this way. The partner airline still shows it as ticketed and confirmed as well. Free flight maybe.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yehoshua on August 19, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
I have a reservation which I changed one of the flights from Business to Economy, the rep I spoke to refunded all the miles (87,500) instead of just 12,500 for the business portion but didn't cancel the ticket. The ticket is still ticketed and confirmed. Lets see what happens. Already made a dummy ticket with those (87,500) miles so United can't pull the miles back without calling first. Lets see what happens and if it stays this way. The partner airline still shows it as ticketed and confirmed as well. Free flight maybe.

What would happen if they caught on and wanted the miles back and you'd booked a ticket already?

I just had a similar experience:

I have a reservation and waitlisted for BusinessFirst.  Instead of deducting the 40k point difference they added 80k.  I didn't do anything and three days later they deducted everything (the 80k they added and the 40k they should've taken).
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on August 19, 2013, 07:05:57 PM
Just wait. I just took a roundtrip this summer from the US to TLV with a European stopover and open jaw in Business all for 55,000.

They don't always catch mistakes. ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 20, 2013, 08:43:46 AM
Just wait. I just took a roundtrip this summer from the US to TLV with a European stopover and open jaw in Business all for 55,000.
:o :o :o 8) :'(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on August 20, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
I am trying to book a trip way in advance using UA miles on AC. But UA only lists 11 months out while AC from what I can see lists 12 months. Is there anyway around this? I guess this is an advantage to using Aeroplan miles?

Bump- any advice?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: aryeh1 on August 20, 2013, 05:38:28 PM
I used United/Co miles 2 years ago and flew lufthanza,
are those flights eligible to receive lufthanza miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on August 20, 2013, 05:39:32 PM
I used United/Co miles 2 years ago and flew lufthanza,
are those flights eligible to receive lufthanza miles?

No. You don't earn miles on award tickets.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: aryeh1 on August 20, 2013, 06:04:03 PM
No. You don't earn miles on award tickets.
Even if booked on other airlines?
I used co to book lufthanza
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on August 20, 2013, 06:07:01 PM
Nope. You don't earn miles on award tickets. Well, sometimes you do by accident. But that's a different story.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bades on August 23, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
Can i use a GC to pay for a ticket that is on FARE LOCK
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yehuda S on August 23, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
Is there still a $75 fee to change a reservation if it's for the same flight on the same day, and the only change is from standard award ticket to saver? Please help...  :-\
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ygift on August 25, 2013, 01:08:19 AM
anyone have ideas how to get availability on united saver awards to tlv? Ive been looking for a few months already and nothing available for the dates I need in December. I need some ideas.
im looking to leave from ewr or phl (or jfk as a last resort) to tlv on December 18 (I would go on the 17th but I rather the 18th) I want to return on  dec 30 or 31 or Jan 1.
I have united miles and also amex points if that can help with any other airlines
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 25, 2013, 01:13:47 AM
anyone have ideas how to get availability on united saver awards to tlv? Ive been looking for a few months already and nothing available for the dates I need in December. I need some ideas.
im looking to leave from ewr or phl (or jfk as a last resort) to tlv on December 18 (I would go on the 17th but I rather the 18th) I want to return on  dec 30 or 31 or Jan 1.
I have united miles and also amex points if that can help with any other airlines
United is known by opening saver award close to flight even now in the heavy season, however for December I would be very confident that something will open up, but not everyone likes to play around
also you may post in the thread for award flights and have luck someone should find for you.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ayman on August 25, 2013, 01:59:53 AM
Well, sometimes you do by accident. But that's a different story.
Care to share?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 25, 2013, 03:01:20 AM
anyone have ideas how to get availability on united saver awards to tlv? Ive been looking for a few months already and nothing available for the dates I need in December. I need some ideas.
im looking to leave from ewr or phl (or jfk as a last resort) to tlv on December 18 (I would go on the 17th but I rather the 18th) I want to return on  dec 30 or 31 or Jan 1.
I have united miles and also amex points if that can help with any other airlines

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on August 25, 2013, 03:01:54 AM
Care to share?

Nothing to share. Sometimes they make a mistake and give you miles. End of story.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PETERP on August 25, 2013, 11:10:26 AM
Is there still a $75 fee to change a reservation if it's for the same flight on the same day, and the only change is from standard award ticket to saver? Please help...  :-\

UA has been know to waive that fee IME if you get lucky and make a good and sympathetic reason for the change .

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ygift on August 25, 2013, 01:27:09 PM
ok thank you . I was aware of the "format". I will repost with it. Thank you
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ygift on August 25, 2013, 01:32:44 PM
Round trip:
Non-stop/Maximum stops/Any:
From: Newark,, Philadelphia , JFK
To: Tel Aviv
Departure dates: December 16, 17, 18, 19 (preferred Dec 18).
Return airports: Newark. Phili, JFK
Return dates: Dec 29, 30,31, Jan 1 (prefer Dec 31)
Class: prefer business but if not I will do coach
Seats: 1
Alliance/Airline:any airline that has comfortable seats in Business
I have enough united miles , UA points and Amex points to use any of them.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on August 25, 2013, 01:56:11 PM
I have a good trick how to get saver availability for your preferred dates, but I'm not going to tell you because you posted in the wrong thread.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ayman on August 25, 2013, 02:02:12 PM
wow you sound exceptionally grumpy today :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 25, 2013, 02:03:32 PM
I have a good trick how to get saver availability for your preferred dates, but I'm not going to tell you because you posted in the wrong thread.
+1. Whats going on here???   http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986.0
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ygift on August 25, 2013, 02:09:31 PM
I meant to say I was NOT aware of the format
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ygift on August 25, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
I have a good trick how to get saver availability for your preferred dates, but I'm not going to tell you because you posted in the wrong thread.
wow your really a nice guy.
have a good life and make sure you do everything perfect especially now b4 the yom hadin
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yehuda S on August 25, 2013, 07:54:38 PM
I have a good trick how to get saver availability for your preferred dates, but I'm not going to tell you because you posted in the wrong thread.
So how about posting it in the right thread and then pointing us to it?

Could really use that right about now..

Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yehuda S on August 25, 2013, 07:58:11 PM
UA has been know to waive that fee IME if you get lucky and make a good and sympathetic reason for the change .
Thanks. I assume you mean a better reason than 'saver availability opened up'. So then what's an example of a good reason?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on August 25, 2013, 08:56:44 PM
So how about posting it in the right thread and then pointing us to it?

Could really use that right about now..

Thanks
You must be a גר here.

#DontTakeEverythingMeshugenerSaysSoLiterally
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Club2000 on August 26, 2013, 01:16:13 AM
hi there
united elite member are paying the 75$ fees under 3 days ?
thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on September 15, 2013, 02:52:06 AM
I am seeing availability on Brussels airlines but nothing is coming when I am checking it on United.com, does this make sense?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 15, 2013, 03:24:57 AM
hi there
united elite member are paying the 75$ fees under 3 days ?
thanks

Depends on the level of status.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 15, 2013, 03:25:23 AM
I am seeing availability on Brussels airlines but nothing is coming when I am checking it on United.com, does this make sense?

Where are you seeing this availability?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: doodley on September 15, 2013, 03:31:57 AM
I posted on another thread but just saw this one. Maybe someone could help. I just booked tickets on saver award from JFK to tlv for 60000 miles and wanted to know am I allowed to bring 3 or 2 suitcases of 70 lbs.  thx
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on September 15, 2013, 03:36:02 AM
I posted on another thread but just saw this one. Maybe someone could help. I just booked tickets on saver award from JFK to tlv for 60000 miles and wanted to know am I allowed to bring 3 or 2 suitcases of 70 lbs.  thx
Yes you can bring whatever is allowed if it would be a revenue booking.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: doodley on September 15, 2013, 08:41:27 AM
Yes you can bring whatever is allowed if it would be a revenue booking.
anyone know whats allowed on a revenue booking? Bec I know ppl that recently went and were able to take 3 but online it says you're allowed at least 2...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 15, 2013, 08:56:55 AM
anyone know whats allowed on a revenue booking? Bec I know ppl that recently went and were able to take 3 but online it says you're allowed at least 2...

PUTPAC.

And nice to know you're finally getting your butt back here. 8)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: doodley on September 15, 2013, 09:03:54 AM
PUTPAC.

And nice to know you're finally getting your butt back here. 8)
i did and one agent said 2 and one said you're still allowed 3.     See you next week!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 15, 2013, 09:09:15 AM
i did and one agent said 2 and one said you're still allowed 3.     See you next week!

Get someone to tell you 3, and then HAVE THEM NOTE IT ON YOUR TICKET. Insist that you want it written somewhere. Then you should IY"H not have any problems. :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2013, 09:18:39 AM
IIRC, the official rules are 1 for Y; 2 for J and 3 for F.

But as Batchy said, if you get an agent to note your ticket, you may get 3.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on September 15, 2013, 09:45:21 AM
anyone know whats allowed on a revenue booking? Bec I know ppl that recently went and were able to take 3 but online it says you're allowed at least 2...
I think 3 is just for premier members.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on September 15, 2013, 09:47:29 AM
IIRC, the official rules are 1 for Y; 2 for J and 3 for F.

But as Batchy said, if you get an agent to note your ticket, you may get 3.
To Isreal on United there is no F right?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yuneeq on September 15, 2013, 09:48:45 AM
To Isreal on United there is no F right?

There isn't, but they call it business/first if that makes a difference
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on September 15, 2013, 09:49:39 AM
There isn't, but they call it business/first if that makes a difference
To get stupid people to think it's first :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on September 15, 2013, 10:07:10 AM
To get stupid people to think it's first :P
I see some 777-200 have 3 classes, is the first there nicer then the business/first what they have on the 777-200 that flies to Isreal?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2013, 10:17:14 AM
To Isreal on United there is no F right?
There's no direct F to TLV, BF is technically J.
You can fly F with connecting.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on September 15, 2013, 10:20:51 AM
I see some 777-200 have 3 classes, is the first there nicer then the business/first what they have on the 777-200 that flies to Isreal?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on September 15, 2013, 10:36:32 AM
Yes.
Is the business class there as nice as the business/first they fly to Isreal? I looked NYC-BRU they currently fly in 767-400 where the business class is like the once to Isreal flat bed etc... however sometime in October I see they are changing to the 777-200 with 3 cabins I wonder if someone that just wants to pay 50,000 miles (not 67,000) Should he fly before they are switching so he will get nice business or the business stays the same they just add some first?
(hope my question is not to complicated)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on September 15, 2013, 11:02:39 AM
Is the business class there as nice as the business/first they fly to Isreal? I looked NYC-BRU they currently fly in 767-400 where the business class is lik
e the once to Isreal flat bed etc... however sometime in October I see they are changing to the 777-200 with 3 cabins I wonder if someone that just wants to pay 50,000 miles (not 67,000) Should he fly before they are switching so he will get nice business or the business stays the same they just add some first?
(hope my question is not to complicated)

Actually the 767 is the old CO planes which have the same biz seats as the Israeli flights. The 3 class 777 should be old UA which are also nice in biz, but they have rear facing seats as well, which might be bothersome to some people.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on September 15, 2013, 11:09:39 AM
The 777 I've flown (IAD-FRA) wasn't rear facing.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: KidOOO on September 15, 2013, 06:02:51 PM
I have an award that i just put on hold, it says i have until midnight Mon., Sep. 16, 2013 to book it.

Does mean tonight, or tomorrow night?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 18, 2013, 03:47:36 AM
I have an award that i just put on hold, it says i have until midnight Mon., Sep. 16, 2013 to book it.

Does mean tonight, or tomorrow night?

PUTPAC and ask. The chance of the date/time you see online being accurate is about as good as the chance of you finding your car after you park it somewhere in Harlem - it might, but don't count on it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: KidOOO on September 18, 2013, 06:48:13 AM
PUTPAC and ask. The chance of the date/time you see online being accurate is about as good as the chance of you finding your car after you park it somewhere in Harlem - it might, but don't count on it.

Figured, ended up calling them and verified was the next day
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on October 13, 2013, 11:33:18 AM
When booking an award flight from a Premiers account the traveler is getting premier status for that flight  ;) correct?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on October 13, 2013, 11:44:32 AM
When booking an award flight from a Premiers account the traveler is getting premier status for that flight  ;) correct?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on October 13, 2013, 11:49:24 AM
Yes.
Do I have to worry that they will make me any problems in the airport? (Ticket was issued from premiers account, not paid with his CC)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mochada on October 13, 2013, 12:01:10 PM
Do I have to worry that they will make me any problems in the airport? (Ticket was issued from premiers account, not paid with his CC)

Nope- been done plenty of times.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on October 22, 2013, 10:04:53 AM
If a 1K books an award for me with his miles, will I avoid all change fees?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on October 22, 2013, 10:05:24 AM
If a 1K books an award for me with his miles, will I avoid all change fees?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on October 24, 2013, 11:41:02 AM
Can United just change the plane that will be used for a particular flight? I could have sworn that UA1445 LAX - EWR was showing flat seats and now it is showing regular

 :o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on October 24, 2013, 12:05:02 PM
Can United just change the plane that will be used for a particular flight? I could have sworn that UA1445 LAX - EWR was showing flat seats and now it is showing regular

 :o
Yes they can. Look UA NYC-BRU, sometime this month or next month, they change Aircraft I think they added First class.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on October 24, 2013, 12:08:06 PM
Doesn't mean he can't complain to them and try and get on a different flight
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on October 24, 2013, 12:12:42 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on October 25, 2013, 10:59:10 AM
What does it mean when flights stop appearing in United.com, KVS and Expert Flyer?

Does that mean they are completely sold out? Can it come back if someone cancels their ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jack on December 16, 2013, 11:31:42 PM
I booked award tickets tlv - ewr (1 way only) and need to cancel them. Is there any way around the $200 fee. The fact that it's 1 way?  Any help would b appreciated - it's 4 tickets i ended up getting the Widero "sale".
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on December 16, 2013, 11:55:42 PM
I booked award tickets tlv - ewr (1 way only) and need to cancel them. Is there any way around the $200 fee. The fact that it's 1 way?  Any help would b appreciated - it's 4 tickets i ended up getting the Widero "sale".
how much did u get it for?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jack on December 17, 2013, 12:01:46 AM
$730 I needed very specific dates I know someone that booked for a few days earlier for mid $500
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on December 17, 2013, 01:55:47 AM
$730 I needed very specific dates I know someone that booked for a few days earlier for mid $500
It doesn't make a difference for the fee, RT or one way.
Any1 CMIIW
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Wolf on December 29, 2013, 09:57:30 PM
I remember once seeing a post on dansdeals.com about looking up award availability via price tickets and enabling expert mode, anyhow cant find the post now but did that and now I see all the codes.

Which fare class do I look for First / business / economy award available seats for *A partners?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on December 29, 2013, 10:18:53 PM
Try searching 'expert mode'.
Let me know if you found it.

Waiting for your prompt response.

meshugener
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Wolf on December 29, 2013, 10:24:56 PM
Try searching 'expert mode'.
Let me know if you found it.
Did that on dd.com and the forum it gives me tons of results but not the one im looking for. >:(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on December 29, 2013, 10:26:44 PM
search DDF
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Wolf on December 29, 2013, 10:28:58 PM
Did that on dd.com and the forum
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 29, 2013, 10:48:28 PM

meshugener is slow sometimes......
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on December 29, 2013, 10:55:46 PM
I'm not slow.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 29, 2013, 11:04:23 PM
Also, just noticed he is in a bad mood now, be cautious.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 29, 2013, 11:19:32 PM
I remember once seeing a post on dansdeals.com about looking up award availability via price tickets and enabling expert mode, anyhow cant find the post now but did that and now I see all the codes.

Which fare class do I look for First / business / economy award available seats for *A partners?
Here you go (http://boardingarea.com/frequentlyflying/2013/06/05/list-and-description-of-all-united-airlines-fare-classes/)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Wolf on December 29, 2013, 11:52:25 PM
Here you go (http://boardingarea.com/frequentlyflying/2013/06/05/list-and-description-of-all-united-airlines-fare-classes/)
Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bubble347 on December 31, 2013, 03:14:56 PM
If I book a one way award with a sub 24 hr stop and then change the second flight to leave after 24 hrs will I be charged extra miles or will they just charge a changing fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Wolf on December 31, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
Reservations on a united club card account booked with points do I have 24hr to cancel? is it 24 hr from reservation? and if yes do the miles get redeposited and fees and taxes credited back?

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 31, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
Reservations on a united club card account booked with points do I have 24hr to cancel? is it 24 hr from reservation? and if yes do the miles get redeposited and fees and taxes credited back?
You always have 24 hours to cancel, even you don't have the club card. And yes you will get back everything.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Wolf on December 31, 2013, 04:22:40 PM
You always have 24 hours to cancel, even you don't have the club card. And yes you will get back everything.
What happenes after 24 hrs? $200 per ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2013, 04:30:58 PM
Does it make sense United is holding on to the money i paid for an award which i cancelled right after booking?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 31, 2013, 04:36:02 PM
Does it make sense United is holding on to the money i paid for an award which i cancelled right after booking?
Sometimes you have to call inin order to get everything back.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: oiseli48 on December 31, 2013, 04:37:15 PM
If I book a one way award with a sub 24 hr stop and then change the second flight to leave after 24 hrs will I be charged extra miles or will they just charge a changing fee?

Both I believe. They will only make the change by changing your ticket to 2 separate tickets, as the system will not let a stopover of more than 24 hours
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2013, 04:37:50 PM
Sometimes you have to call inin order to get everything back.
I called and they said that it couldn't be refunded. Not really much of an issue because i plan on taking this flight at some point during the year, so i won't be paying anything then. Though they did charge me a close in fee for both tickets which if i booked later on when i want to fly, i would probably have the United Club card by then.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 31, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
I called and they said that it couldn't be refunded. Not really much of an issue because i plan on taking this flight at some point during the year, so i won't be paying anything then. Though they did charge me a close in fee for both tickets which if i booked later on when i want to fly, i would probably have the United Club card by then.
So did you cancel or not? if you did, how do you plan on using it later on?

Also, you know DROPR, just HUCA, its the most simple rule, if you cancel within 24 hours, you get everything back.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2013, 04:45:30 PM
So did you cancel or not? if you did, how do you plan on using it later on?

Also, you know DROPR, just HUCA, its the most simple rule, if you cancel within 24 hours, you get everything back.
It is under my cancelled trips on United.com

If you have a cancelled ticket, you can fly the same route up to a year from cancelling at the award rate you initially booked.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 31, 2013, 04:47:42 PM
It is under my cancelled trips on United.com

If you have a cancelled ticket, you can fly the same route up to a year from cancelling at the award rate you initially booked.
Everydayyoulernsomethingnew!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
Everydayyoulernsomethingnew!
I believe Dan had posted this on DD.com when discussing the upcoming United devaluation.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on December 31, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
It is under my cancelled trips on United.com

If you have a cancelled ticket, you can fly the same route up to a year from cancelling at the award rate you initially booked.
Are you sure, so if I find availability tomorrow NYC-TLV and I bbook and cancel, can I change it afterwards to any date?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on December 31, 2013, 04:53:08 PM
Are you sure, so if I find availability tomorrow NYC-TLV and I bbook and cancel, can I change it afterwards to any date?
Check this (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/38496) out.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on December 31, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
Check this (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/38496) out.
I'm assuming you can only rebook it if there's availability at the same rate (i.e. If you originally booked saver there would have to be saver award availability on the flight you want to rebook on)?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: oiseli48 on December 31, 2013, 07:39:23 PM
Wow, pretty cool! I've read the article before, yet completely missed this point.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bubble347 on January 01, 2014, 01:13:48 PM
Anyone in good spirits in honor of the new year care to share a link to a discussion, or your own advice on a united one-way stopover workaround? I have searched the forums for quite some time now but to no avail :'(.
#thankinginadvance
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: oiseli48 on January 01, 2014, 09:35:21 PM
Check this (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/38496) out.

Seems like you have to click on the change ticket button, not refund my miles

Would the miles be refunded in the meantime? Or is this only for those who are 100% sure they are traveling?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: stingypolisher on January 01, 2014, 11:53:57 PM
can i book US airways flights on united.com with united miles ? the phl-tlv route never comes up in the search....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 02, 2014, 12:01:41 AM
can i book US airways flights on united.com with united miles ? the phl-tlv route never comes up in the search....
You can. It may be very tough to find availability.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 02, 2014, 08:38:46 AM
Seems like you have to click on the change ticket button, not refund my miles

Would the miles be refunded in the meantime? Or is this only for those who are 100% sure they are traveling?
The miles do not get redeposited.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 07, 2014, 10:38:38 AM
It's just crazy what's going on lately with UA not opening saver awards the last minute on the NYC - TLV route. For example today on the UA84 flight, there is plenty empty business class seats, and nothing open for saver award.

United unfriendly.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 07, 2014, 10:44:21 AM
It's just crazy what's going on lately with UA not opening saver awards the last minute on the NYC - TLV route. For example today on the UA84 flight, there is plenty empty business class seats, and nothing open for saver award.

United unfriendly.
Yep. Used to be almost a lock to get a business seat if you waited to day of flight. Now, it barely happens anymore.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on January 07, 2014, 11:13:07 AM
Is there a charge if I cancel award travel within 24 hours?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 07, 2014, 11:13:24 AM
No
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on January 07, 2014, 11:19:10 AM
I'm in need of 2 tickets and I see only availbilty for 1, is there a chance if I reserve one of them and search again I will find more of the same flight?
And what are my chance of finding 2 tickets if I call?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 07, 2014, 11:23:47 AM
I'm in need of 2 tickets and I see only availbilty for 1, is there a chance if I reserve one of them and search again I will find more of the same flight?
And what are my chance of finding 2 tickets if I call?
Always a chance of it opening up. Can't hurt to call.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 07, 2014, 11:55:03 AM
Yep. Used to be almost a lock to get a business seat if you waited to day of flight. Now, it barely happens anymore.
I heard that it haves to do with 1K's complaining that upgrades were never available, also I heard that UA got fed up of people booking business class, and then cancel the day before the flight. Any of them true?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 07, 2014, 12:10:50 PM
I heard that it haves to do with 1K's complaining that upgrades were never available, also I heard that UA got fed up of people booking business class, and then cancel the day before the flight. Any of them true?
No idea but since when does United care about their FF? :P
Probably selling cheap cash upgrades.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 07, 2014, 02:14:56 PM
No idea but since when does United care about their FF? :P
Probably selling cheap cash upgrades.
Since when are they selling cheap cash upgrades?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 07, 2014, 02:16:58 PM
Since when are they selling cheap cash upgrades?
A few months now
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 07, 2014, 03:55:32 PM
A few months now
About how much is it? I remember on ElAl I paid $250 to be upgraded to business. What are the UA CHEAP rates?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Lazegotit on January 07, 2014, 05:08:22 PM
Is it best to use United miles or transfer to other program like AA?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 07, 2014, 05:09:31 PM
Is it best to use United miles or transfer to other program like AA?

You can't transfer UA to AA if that's what you meant.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 07, 2014, 05:10:47 PM
About how much is it? I remember on ElAl I paid $250 to be upgraded to business. What are the UA CHEAP rates?
No set amounts. Depends if the UA system decides to try to sell it to you.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Lazegotit on January 07, 2014, 05:13:44 PM
You can't transfer UA to AA if that's what you meant.

Can they be transfered to any other program? How many miles on economy to TLV?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 07, 2014, 05:13:56 PM
has anyone ever been able to split up a 2 passanger itin and book it with 2 sep MP accounts.

I have a itin on hod 120k (OW) and i dont have enough miles in one account to book it all. i have enough in 2 accounts. They wont let me merge (duh) bec ones my name and one is my wifes name. though, they did say i need to send in paperwork that my jewish name is miriam and my english name is steve  :)

But i dont have the likes of that either.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 07, 2014, 05:17:13 PM
has anyone ever been able to split up a 2 passanger itin and book it with 2 sep MP accounts.

I have a itin on hod 120k (OW) and i dont have enough miles in one account to book it all. i have enough in 2 accounts. They wont let me merge (duh) bec ones my name and one is my wifes name. though, they did say i need to send in paperwork that my jewish name is miriam and my english name is steve  :)

But i dont have the likes of that either.
Whats the problem? book two separate tickets and arrange seats so you both sit next to each other.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on January 07, 2014, 05:26:36 PM
Whats the problem? book two separate tickets and arrange seats so you both sit next to each other.

Maybe he doesn't know that little trick, so your reply may be cryptic. let me explain what you need to do.

Split the itinerary in the account where the reservation is held. Log into the other account that has the other miles, retrieve the reservation by locator number/name, and then book the ticket. It's that easy until you know about it.

the only risk you run into is that if you want to cancel the ticket, you will need to pay redepost fees twice.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sruly101 on January 07, 2014, 05:35:40 PM
Booking a biz ticket on Swiss RT TLV-ZUR i got 2 options how to book it, would like to hear which one is better;

1. United 110K miles + Around $70 Tax

2. LH 90K miles + $192 Tax

with which one should i go? is booking through united better then on LH (cuz through LH its a bit cheaper, no)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 07, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
Whats the problem? book two separate tickets and arrange seats so you both sit next to each other.
Maybe he doesn't know that little trick, so your reply may be cryptic. let me explain what you need to do.

Split the itinerary in the account where the reservation is held. Log into the other account that has the other miles, retrieve the reservation by locator number/name, and then book the ticket. It's that easy until you know about it.

the only risk you run into is that if you want to cancel the ticket, you will need to pay redepost fees twice.
appreciate bopth your helps.

I dont mind the sacasm. I already have them on reserve. Issue is that there the last two biz tickets available. They are not able to split the itin, bec its not ticketed yet. if it was ticketed it wouldnt be a big deal at all.

She said that she would need to call TK and ask them to split it, but likely chance of them doing that is slim being that i want to book using UA miles. She tried explaining to me that the problem with splitting the itin, is what they really do is cancel one of the 2 tickets and re book it under a diff number.... there is no availibility to do that... :(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 07, 2014, 06:38:52 PM
Is it best to use United miles or transfer to other program like AA?
??? Please elaborate.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: thaber on January 08, 2014, 10:50:27 AM
So I was flying TLV-LAX with a stopover in EWR on 1/5/14 when they cancelled the connecting flight. it was 2 x 300K mileage tickets in biz. We got them to rebook us, but they ended up giving us two economy preferred tickets.
Can I get a partial refund on the lap child, since that's based on ticket price? How about a mileage refund for the tickets?
If it makes any difference they were two separate reservations
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 13, 2014, 08:48:31 AM
When I cancel an award ticket (over the phone) how long does it usually take for the miles to be back in my account?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2014, 08:59:07 AM
When I cancel an award ticket (over the phone) how long does it usually take for the miles to be back in my account?
It can take 24 houts or more, I had success calling in and ask them to randomly redeposit the miles. I think it required HUCA.  :D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 13, 2014, 09:02:06 AM
I'm not in a rush, just wanna make sure I don't have to call in again.
Did you have it deposited back after 24 hours without calling again?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2014, 09:28:33 AM
I'm not in a rush, just wanna make sure I don't have to call in again.
Did you have it deposited back after 24 hours without calling again?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2014, 09:59:20 AM
Yes.
Though I once had to call in again to get my money refunded.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jen on January 13, 2014, 10:01:44 AM
can you explain how to cancel an award ticket on UA. I did it online and got the miles redeposited, but how would i use that same mileage to get a ticket down the road when the mileage will be higher? i am confused...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2014, 10:24:57 AM
can you explain how to cancel an award ticket on UA. I did it online and got the miles redeposited, but how would i use that same mileage to get a ticket down the road when the mileage will be higher? i am confused...
You are confused big time.......

Read Dan's post about it. If your miles are redeposited you canceled it and you will not be able to rebook it, there is a option to cancel and a other option you have to select the other one.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: harrym on January 13, 2014, 10:27:48 AM
So if I book now FRA - EWR and redeposit the miles, can I change later for FRA - JFK, for the old mileage rate, is that considered a routing change?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 13, 2014, 10:41:21 AM
aha, so you're also confused.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on January 13, 2014, 02:29:21 PM
When I cancel an award ticket (over the phone) how long does it usually take for the miles to be back in my account?

I too may need to cancel an award ticket this week and have them redeposit the miles .

 Why are you thinking to do the cancellation via phone and not on line? as I would have thought online was the way to go--
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 13, 2014, 03:19:37 PM
I too may need to cancel an award ticket this week and have them redeposit the miles .

 Why are you thinking to do the cancellation via phone and not on line? as I would have thought online was the way to go--
Waive redeposit fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
When I cancel an award ticket (over the phone) how long does it usually take for the miles to be back in my account?
Why not cancel online?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 13, 2014, 03:22:20 PM
Why not cancel online?
Waive redeposit fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2014, 03:22:32 PM
Waive redeposit fee?
Which redeposit fee within 24 hours?  ???

After 24 hours you're right. btw did you have success getting the fee waived?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 13, 2014, 03:30:53 PM
Which redeposit fee within 24 hours?  ???

After 24 hours you're right. btw did you have success getting the fee waived?
After 24 hours
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 13, 2014, 03:45:30 PM
After 24 hours
Did you get away with the fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 13, 2014, 03:51:15 PM
Did you get away with the fee?
Yep
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jen on January 13, 2014, 05:08:38 PM
can you possibly point me to the right place in the forums to look up canceling a UA award ticket for travel at a future date...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: oiseli48 on January 14, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
can you possibly point me to the right place in the forums to look up canceling a UA award ticket for travel at a future date...

Dan explained it here

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/38496
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 14, 2014, 07:49:24 PM
If I book a award ticket just to lock in the lower rate I'm I stuck with a specific airline?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 14, 2014, 07:54:53 PM
Is there a list of all the airlines that have lie flat business seats
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bubble347 on January 14, 2014, 10:50:42 PM
Is there a list of all the airlines that have lie flat business seats
Google it you will find some results, but seatguru.com is a nice resource if you know what aircraft you are looking in to.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 02:26:45 AM
I just booked 2 OW UA flights EWR --> VCE in early April, Global First, with a stopover in FRA for 3 hours (looking forward to checking out that first class lounge!) for 67.5K each.  The tickets are on hold until Friday.  I realized that I have a wedding in LA a few weeks earlier.  Is there a way to add a stopover from LAX --> NYC to tack onto my EWR --> VCE award flight?  PUTPAC, or is there a different way?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 16, 2014, 02:37:57 AM
I just booked 2 OW UA flights EWR --> VCE in early April, Global First, with a stopover in FRA for 3 hours (looking forward to checking out that first class lounge!) for 67.5K each.  The tickets are on hold until Friday.  I realized that I have a wedding in LA a few weeks earlier.  Is there a way to add a stopover from LAX --> NYC to tack onto my EWR --> VCE award flight?  PUTPAC, or is there a different way?
How long to do you want to stopover in NYC?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 02:49:25 AM
A little more than a week.  LAX --> NYC 3/25, EWR --> VCE 4/3.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 16, 2014, 07:50:44 AM
I just booked 2 OW UA flights EWR --> VCE in early April, Global First, with a stopover in FRA for 3 hours (looking forward to checking out that first class lounge!) for 67.5K each.  The tickets are on hold until Friday.  I realized that I have a wedding in LA a few weeks earlier.  Is there a way to add a stopover from LAX --> NYC to tack onto my EWR --> VCE award flight?  PUTPAC, or is there a different way?
You are flying LH through FRA?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 09:22:44 AM
UA operated flight EWR --> FRA, LH FRA --> VCE.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 16, 2014, 09:25:49 AM
Since you are arriving on UA First and leaving on LH Business, 2 cabins, you won't have access to FCL or FCT. You need to be on LH or LX First to access those. Sorry.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 09:44:57 AM
Correct, no FCT or FCL for you this time around. Also you can add your stopover in NYC by calling. You'd need to find your own way to LAX though.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 09:52:46 AM
Since you are arriving on UA First and leaving on LH Business, 2 cabins, you won't have access to FCL or FCT. You need to be on LH or LX First to access those. Sorry.

Well, that's unfortunate.  Thanks.  Guess between today and tomorrow I'll keep looking for a flight for two that would get me there LH or LX.

Also you can add your stopover in NYC by calling. You'd need to find your own way to LAX though.

Thanks, and yes, I realize I'll need to find my own way to LA.  Thanks!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 16, 2014, 10:09:08 AM
Since when does UA allow a stop over on a OW flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 16, 2014, 10:14:06 AM
Since when does UA allow a stop over on a OW flight?

They don't. But with enough HUCA you can do anything.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 10:20:12 AM
Looks like there is no availability LH or LX first in my timeframe.  Is it worth it to spend the 67.5k for global first EWR--> FRA on a 777-200 then business FRA --> VCE, or better to save the 35k and fly business the whole way through?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 16, 2014, 10:21:26 AM
Looks like there is no availability LH or LX first in my timeframe.  Is it worth it to spend the 67.5k for global first EWR--> FRA on a 777-200 then business FRA --> VCE, or better to save the 35k and fly business the whole way through?

I would save the 35k and just fly business. But thats my 2cents.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 10:30:48 AM
Me, too.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 10:31:21 AM
Or try and book the exact route you want now, and cancel without redeposit and get LH F.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 10:48:20 AM
Or try and book the exact route you want now, and cancel without redeposit and get LH F.

Thought of that, but the timing doesn't really work out.  Need to take the vacation around Pesach time...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 16, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
Looks like there is no availability LH or LX first in my timeframe.  Is it worth it to spend the 67.5k for global first EWR--> FRA on a 777-200 then business FRA --> VCE, or better to save the 35k and fly business the whole way through?
It's only 17.5k more, not 35k.

It depends what you value your miles at, to know if it is worth it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 10:56:44 AM
It's only 17.5k more, not 35k.

Two tickets @17.5k a piece.

Or try and book the exact route you want now, and cancel without redeposit and get LH F.

If I do redeposit, though, what are the chances of snagging LH F on the particular day I want (4/4)?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 11:14:24 AM
No one can predict that, but what's the exact flight you'd want?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
Really any flight that would get me to VCE 4/4 late morning or early afternoon.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 11:18:46 AM
I'm not going to do your research for you, papi.

Let me know which flight, and I can check its current load.

If it's F0 A0 at this point, the chances are slim it'll open up, but if it's F8 A8, you have a decent chance.

Of course, those numbers could change (and will likely change) this far out, but it may help with your decision FWIW.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sam28 on January 16, 2014, 11:27:22 AM
my friend has over 1milon united points he wont to go with his family of 8 to israel is it possible to find  8 business class ticket on one plane nyc to tlv for yom keper coming back after success ?

if not what is my other option
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 11:28:44 AM
You'd check availability on ExpertFlyer?  I did, and no F or A is listed.  Does that mean it's not offered? 
I checked all star alliance flights from FRA to VCE ON 4/4, and none list F or A for any of the flights.  They're all similar to this:

Expanded
LH 326    FRA 12:25p → VCE 1:45p
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 E0 L0 K0

The only F availability is the NY --> FRA leg:

Expanded
LH 401    JFK 3:55p → FRA 5:30a
F8 A5 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
LH 324    FRA 8:15a → VCE 9:35a
J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 E9 L9 K9

Expanded
UA (LH) 8840    JFK 3:55p → FRA 5:30a
F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L0 K0
UA (LH) 9078    FRA 8:15a → VCE 9:35a
J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L0 K0

So is it just not offered?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
There is no F from FRA to any EU destinations, AFAIK.

I was talking about your JFK-FRA flight.

The F8 A5 JFK-FRA flight looks promising, and if the F4 A4 stays static, they may open 1 (mayyyyybe 2) seats on that as well.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on January 16, 2014, 11:36:29 AM
So this is what I don't understand, and thanks for the patience -- how will the JFK--> FRA leg help me?  Don't I need to be flying F on LH for the FRA --> VCE leg to get FCL/FCT? 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 16, 2014, 11:54:31 AM
Thought of that, but the timing doesn't really work out.  Need to take the vacation around Pesach time...
What does this have to do with what AJK said, he said just cancel now and wait for F to open up on your FRA - VCE route FOR THE DATES YOU WANT. Besides if you wonna be assured with at least EWR - FRA availability ON YOUR DATES that's a different story.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
So this is what I don't understand, and thanks for the patience -- how will the JFK--> FRA leg help me?  Don't I need to be flying F on LH for the FRA --> VCE leg to get FCL/FCT?

Not a bad question.

Though I don't believe it's officially allowed, others have had success using the FCT as an arrivals lounge. You won't get the Porsche to the plane, but you can still get the Blue Label and cuban cigars :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 16, 2014, 12:06:04 PM
So this is what I don't understand, and thanks for the patience -- how will the JFK--> FRA leg help me?  Don't I need to be flying F on LH for the FRA --> VCE leg to get FCL/FCT?
You need to fly LH F JFK-FRA to get into the FCT.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: myb821 on January 16, 2014, 12:22:50 PM
my friend has over 1milon united points he wont to go with his family of 8 to israel is it possible to find  8 business class ticket on one plane nyc to tlv for yom keper coming back after success ?

if not what is my other option
First of all come on! make what u write legible. Second not a chance in hell
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 12:25:42 PM
First of all come one! make what u write legible. Second not a chance in hell

Agree with the first (of course I do ;)), but less so with the second:

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/39419
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: momo on January 16, 2014, 12:28:40 PM
Going for yom kippur, coming back after succos? No way 8 seats, dont care if its plan B.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: myb821 on January 16, 2014, 12:29:13 PM
Agree with the first (of course I do ;)), but less so with the second:

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/39419
thats not around succos time
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 16, 2014, 12:31:33 PM
Agree with the first (of course I do ;)), but less so with the second:

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/39419
He really deserves a spot in your (maybe my  ;) ) thread....

Also, the seats that were open in Dan's post is a very unusual thing, (even for off peak) and it would never happen in such high peak season.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sam28 on January 16, 2014, 12:32:48 PM
so what is my other option ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: myb821 on January 16, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
so what is my other option ?
split up the family and even then it will be difficult. but if he is going to book he should try and do it before the deval
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 12:43:24 PM
thats not around succos time

True. But having 8 or 9 seats on UA is possible... but I guess you were answering the question he was asking.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sam28 on January 16, 2014, 12:55:30 PM
for 2 tickets can I find that time of the year ? if yes when should I start looking ? will put the kids in economy maybe this will work ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: lifetimedeals on January 16, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
anybody know for a booking with united points in business on their partner flights does that include lounge access? which lounges?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on January 16, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
I just found a flight that hasn't been posted till now and reserved it. Problem is I do NOT have any chase or united points at the moment, is there any way to borrow points and pay them back etc? My reservation expires tomorrow night.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 16, 2014, 01:10:58 PM
I just found a flight that hasn't been posted till now and reserved it. Problem is I do NOT have any chase or united points at the moment, is there any way to borrow points and pay them back etc? My reservation expires tomorrow night.
Buy and transfer UR.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 16, 2014, 01:13:58 PM
Since when does UA allow a stop over on a OW flight?
You can add a short open jaw back to the destination to complete the RT.
You can also HUCA like like a maniac or try to add a layover less than 24 hours and then call to extend it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on January 16, 2014, 01:34:19 PM
Buy and transfer UR.
I'm not sure it would be worth it then. How much do UR points sell for now?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 16, 2014, 01:37:50 PM
anybody know for a booking with united points in business on their partner flights does that include lounge access? which lounges?
Usually yes. But its hard to answer with certainty without flight & airport details. Ok?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 16, 2014, 01:38:22 PM
I'm not sure it would be worth it then. How much do UR points sell for now?
1.4-1.5
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 16, 2014, 01:39:58 PM
I'm a little bit confused. Am I able to do the "cancel without re depositing miles" with a united flight or only for a partner award flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 01:49:06 PM
I'm a little bit confused. Am I able to do the "cancel without re depositing miles" with a united flight or only for a partner award flight?

Didn't you just ask this question like 6 posts ago?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 16, 2014, 01:51:49 PM
Didn't you just ask this question like 6 posts ago?
Ye but it disappeared not sure what happened...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 16, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
Didn't you just ask this question like 6 posts ago?
No difference.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 16, 2014, 04:08:06 PM
No difference.
Please clarify. Are you answering the question?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 16, 2014, 04:15:54 PM
He is.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 16, 2014, 06:51:34 PM
No difference.
Yes. There is no difference between UA or partners.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 16, 2014, 06:52:50 PM
Thanks to both of you.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: eitan770 on January 16, 2014, 11:30:37 PM
From what I understand, one can still book US Airways flights with United miles until 3/31, but when I search on the United site, even on days that I know have availability (from looking USAir's site), the PHL-TLV flight never comes up. Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 17, 2014, 01:23:49 AM
From what I understand, one can still book US Airways flights with United miles until 3/31, but when I search on the United site, even on days that I know have availability (from looking USAir's site), the PHL-TLV flight never comes up. Am I doing something wrong?
Are you sure that they are low level availability?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on January 17, 2014, 01:56:24 AM
On a United award ticket for travel on a partner airline, is there free date changes once I start the trip? (Change the return dates after flying the outbound flight)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 17, 2014, 06:28:28 AM
I just saw a tweet from i think it was boarding area that sq is blaming ua for yanking all the award availability.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: eitan770 on January 18, 2014, 10:06:02 PM
Are you sure that they are low level availability?
Not sure I understood that.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 19, 2014, 12:27:06 AM
Not sure I understood that.
If the flights you see on US are not the lowest mileage seats, they won't show on partner sites.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: eitan770 on January 19, 2014, 12:44:49 AM
If the flights you see on US are not the lowest mileage seats, they won't show on partner sites.
Well, I'm searching for a business class flight, and this one is the lower of USAir's levels for Business.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 19, 2014, 12:22:58 PM
One more question.
What has to be the same on the 2nd reservation as the canceled ticket (Dan's post says they need to be same routing)?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 19, 2014, 10:56:47 PM
if i book a ticket in first but on leg there is only economy available (but there is standard award) is there anyway to get onto a seat in first? can you do something like plan b? or will they upgrade me at the airport with out charge? thnx
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 19, 2014, 11:14:48 PM
if i book a ticket in first but on leg there is only economy available (but there is standard award) is there anyway to get onto a seat in first? can you do something like plan b? or will they upgrade me at the airport with out charge? thnx
You can book the tickets separately, one saver and one standard, and combine them online. Better than paying the standard rate for the whole trip.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 19, 2014, 11:17:30 PM
@jaywhy, can you explain me his question ???

I understand he wants to ask.... If you pay a F rate but you are getting a mixed cabin, what can you do to get in to F (on the leg that you originally only got economy) once it opens up?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 19, 2014, 11:35:12 PM
@jaywhy, can you explain me his question ???

I understand he wants to ask.... If you pay a F rate but you are getting a mixed cabin, what can you do to get in to F (on the leg that you originally only got economy) once it opens up?
Short answer: Nothing. You can wait until the mixed cabin opens but you'll likely lose the F cabin.
Possible solution: What I wrote.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 19, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
who was talking abouyt paying the standard award for the whole trip?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 20, 2014, 12:30:33 AM
that is not really a worth it solution in my case that it wont save me any points to split it rather pay a whole nother flight top top of this
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 20, 2014, 08:54:55 AM
With regards to Singapore availability, if I see business saver available on Singapore's website, would that be bookable via United by calling?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 20, 2014, 09:04:58 AM
No.
But sometimes it's available for other *A partners such as M&M.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 20, 2014, 09:14:14 AM
No.
But sometimes it's available for other *A partners such as M&M.
-1

Depends when travel is.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 20, 2014, 09:21:28 AM
-1

Depends when travel is.

For travel in April or May.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 20, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
Meir, for example?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2014, 09:39:49 AM
Meir, for example?
SIN-MLE and many other flights that don't touch the US.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 20, 2014, 09:42:58 AM
Meir, for example?
SIN-MEL 1/28/2014

Dan, you beat me to it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 20, 2014, 04:57:35 PM
Did I miss when they announced your open-jaw can't be in your stopover city? When did that become a rule??
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
UA make an announcement about a routing rule?

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 20, 2014, 05:02:51 PM
Did I miss when they announced your open-jaw can't be in your stopover city? When did that become a rule??
Month or two ago.
Discussion in the stopover thread.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8240.msg654958#msg654958
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 20, 2014, 05:05:14 PM
Month or two ago.
Discussion in the stopover thread.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=8240.msg654958#msg654958

Blimey. Anyone have any luck getting them to honor it anyways? Meanwhile I had to book something to lock in the old rate for the summer.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 20, 2014, 05:06:46 PM
Blimey. Anyone have any luck getting them to honor it anyways? Meanwhile I had to book something to lock in the old rate for the summer.
Only solution AFAIK is to HUCA like a fiend.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 20, 2014, 05:07:39 PM
UA make an announcement about a routing rule?

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif)
What a joke! UA and published routing rules
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 20, 2014, 05:11:16 PM
Only solution AFAIK is to HUCA like a fiend.

I'm going to try that. See what happens.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 20, 2014, 05:13:32 PM
I'm going to try that. See what happens.
Also try to book a few legs online without violating the rule and then call the add the illegal segments.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 20, 2014, 06:28:50 PM
When canceling without redepositing the miles what has to be the same on the 2nd reservation as the canceled ticket to keep the rate (Dan's post says they need to be same routing)?
Bump
Also Can I book a saver award on United and then change it (for $50/100) to a partner flight with the same origin and destination (i.e. From TLV-EWR United business to TLV-EWR Lufthansa with a stop in FRA) at the original rate?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2014, 06:30:33 PM
No.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 20, 2014, 06:31:48 PM
No.
Thanx. Do you know the answer to the question I quoted?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
Everything except date is what UA Insider implied.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 20, 2014, 06:33:45 PM
Everything except date is what UA Insider implied.
Thank you once again.
That includes flight numbers and times?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 20, 2014, 06:36:25 PM
No.
I believe you are talking when booking on UA for 70K you won't be able to change to partners for the same 70K, but when you lock in now on a UA direct flight for 60K you WILL be able to change to partners for the same rate. Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2014, 06:38:36 PM
Thank you once again.
That includes flight numbers and times?

You can change date and flight numbers and times.

You cannot change O/D, and most likely cannot change airline or routing.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2014, 06:39:27 PM
I believe you are talking when booking on UA for 70K you won't be able to change to partners for the same 70K, but when you lock in now on a UA direct flight for 60K you WILL be able to change to partners for the same rate. Or am I wrong?

95% chance of being wrong.

Though there is no "official" word.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 20, 2014, 06:40:04 PM
You can change date and flight numbers and times.

You cannot change O/D, and most likely cannot change airline or routing.
O/D?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 20, 2014, 06:40:40 PM
O/D?

Origin. Destination.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 20, 2014, 06:41:44 PM
Origin. Destination.
Blushing... Although it is 2 am here.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 20, 2014, 10:20:30 PM
Im looking to book 2 seats direct CDG-ORD on UA F (777) on a specific day in August. Naturally it is not available.
If it doesn't become avail, i'd settle for J.
If neither becomes avail, I would book F as a standard award.

If i Book saver F for a random day and then J becomes avail (or book J and then F becomes avail) i believe i'd be stuck paying the additional miles. I would settle for CDG-MUC/FRA-ORD as well as long as the times are right (there is a connection through each that works on that day.
What would be my best strategy booking something before the deval?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 21, 2014, 01:51:51 PM
Only solution AFAIK is to HUCA like a fiend.


One phone call is all it took B"H.  What a crazy new rule.  ::)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 21, 2014, 01:56:12 PM
Nice.

Current routing?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 21, 2014, 02:07:12 PM
Nice.

Current routing?


 Pretty basic.
ORD-MIL
VCE-TLV
TLV-ORD
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 21, 2014, 02:21:05 PM
Looks good to me!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 21, 2014, 03:18:27 PM

One phone call is all it took B"H.  What a crazy new rule.  ::)
Nice!
Callback line?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 21, 2014, 03:21:41 PM
Nice!
Callback line?
No, he waited an hour on the phone and got to talk to a rep sitting in India that can read out from a computer.  ;)

Of course Callback....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on January 21, 2014, 03:26:02 PM
No, he waited an hour on the phone and got to talk to a rep sitting in India that can read out from a computer.  ;)

Of course Callback....
I don't know why you are so convinced. Callback line is much better at following the rules
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 21, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
I don't know why you are so convinced. Callback line is much better at following the rules
Not IME. The regular number gets you most of the times to out of state reps that know all the rules as God said so.... They are so annoying.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on January 21, 2014, 03:36:41 PM
Not IME. The regular number gets you most of the times to out of state reps that know all the rules as God said so.... They are so annoying.
I have the exact opposite experience. Funny
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 21, 2014, 03:49:08 PM
Nice!
Callback line?

Nope. I was driving. Called 1-800-523-3273.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 21, 2014, 03:49:40 PM
Nope. I was driving. Called 1-800-523-3273.
:-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 21, 2014, 05:56:33 PM
I was just told that if I cancel my res without redepositing the miles I can rebook the same route at the same rate. I asked what is considered the same route and was told that it has to be the same origin and destination and that stops don't matter.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 21, 2014, 06:05:17 PM
DROPR

But it could be that's how it pans out, even if it's not what UA insider implied.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on January 21, 2014, 06:18:07 PM
Get it in writing!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on January 21, 2014, 06:31:22 PM
I have been looking to book some flights with UA, and it is amazing how little availability there is right now. Pre-deval has really made flights dry up for the routes I am looking at.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 21, 2014, 07:10:31 PM
Get it in writing!
I got the exact route (with same stops even day of the week etc.) I need so I'm hoping at least UA insider is correct even if I was misinformed.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 21, 2014, 07:10:56 PM
DROPR

But it could be that's how it pans out, even if it's not what UA insider implied.
DROPR?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 21, 2014, 07:11:51 PM

DROPR?

Dont rely on phone reps.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 21, 2014, 07:12:23 PM
I got the exact route (with same stops even day of the week etc.) I need so I'm hoping at least UA insider is correct even if I was misinformed.

 ???

You have the exact route you need now? So why not book it now?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on January 21, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
They probably don't know. It's probably just depends on the way the computer will price it and the tech people don't speak to the award people
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 21, 2014, 07:27:24 PM
Dont rely on phone reps.
Thanks. That last p was throwing me off. I thought you were going to sleep!?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 21, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
???

You have the exact route you need now? So why not book it now?
Of course I booked it. Just not sure if I'm gonna fly it next thursday or in 2 months.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rivkag on January 21, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
This is for a week with part of Chanukah which begins on December 16th.

Sun, 14DEC14    US3770  X     (PHL) 1:37 PM   (YYZ) 3:07 PM  as US AIRWAYS EXPRESS.
Sun, 14DEC14    AC84      I      (YYZ) 5:20 PM    (TLV) by AIR CANADA.
Sun, 21DEC14    US797    X     (TLV) 11:30 PM    (PHL) 5:20 AM (22DEC) by US AIRWAYS.

What happens if I cannot make it?   Do I have less options to change the dates of my flights because of the US AIRWAYS merger? I am still within my 24 hours to cancel if this helps.

By the way I have 2 confirmation numbers. One from United. When I enter this number in UA it directs to me US Airways with another confirmation number.

 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 21, 2014, 07:48:33 PM
No, he waited an hour on the phone and got to talk to a rep sitting in India that can read out from a computer.  ;)

Of course Callback....
Don't underestimate the value of clueless reps.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on January 22, 2014, 06:16:08 PM
United.com support is 866-211-1861 for whoever is interested.
Is JFK/EWR same rest or will result in a reprice?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 22, 2014, 06:19:16 PM
United.com support is 866-211-1861 for whoever is interested.
Is JFK/EWR same rest or will result in a reprice?
JFK/EWR are considered different Airports if this is what you're asking.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on January 22, 2014, 06:55:02 PM
Will a change from TLV-VIE-FRA-JFK to TLV-FRA-JFK booked now with the current mileage levels result in a reprice?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 22, 2014, 06:55:55 PM
If I had a dollar for every time...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 22, 2014, 06:58:38 PM
If I had a dollar for every time...

You can buy me a present. Yay
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 22, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Will a change from TLV-VIE-FRA-JFK to TLV-FRA-JFK booked now with the current mileage levels result in a reprice?
Nothing is clear as of now. As AJK keeps on saying BSHEM UA insider, everything besides the changing the dates will result in a reprice.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: moish on January 23, 2014, 08:00:10 AM
what about class of service?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on January 23, 2014, 08:12:35 AM
Considering the upcoming award chart changes, how far in advance can you fly? I know you have a year of date changes, but when does that start? From the day of booking, or form the original date of travel?

For example, can I book a RT flight to Israel now for 80k for a trip in December of 2014, and then be able to change the date to any time until December 2015, or can you only change it a date up until January 2015 for example?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 23, 2014, 12:26:24 PM
All travel must officially be completed within one year of booking.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 23, 2014, 05:35:09 PM
Does 2bm work when there is only 1 saver award left on a united partner?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 23, 2014, 06:06:10 PM
Does 2bm work when there is only 1 saver award left on a united partner?
If it would work, it would require a lot of HUCA. They just don't have what to give you. With UA themselves I had a good experience.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 23, 2014, 10:18:58 PM
With UA themselves I had a good experience.
Same account? Or two different accounts?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 23, 2014, 10:26:26 PM
Same account? Or two different accounts?
Same account.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 23, 2014, 10:31:55 PM
Same account.
And it ticketed? Or did you need to call?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 23, 2014, 10:35:11 PM
It came up error I had to HUCA. Again, i'm talking about UA metal.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 23, 2014, 10:45:29 PM
It came up error I had to HUCA. Again, i'm talking about UA metal.
How did you explain things to them that they agreed to ticket both?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 23, 2014, 11:01:36 PM
How did you explain things to them that they agreed to ticket both?
That it was 2 seats available and I don't know what happened, so she told me only 1 is available therefor there is nothing she can do, I told her I am flying with my wife for are honeymoon and she haves to help me, and she helped me!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 23, 2014, 11:28:02 PM
Would 2 accounts have better chances?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on January 24, 2014, 02:08:02 AM
Would 2 accounts have better chances?

Probably not, as mentioned above its a matter or how much space they actually have.

Only difference it will make is in terms of making calls, and who you'll be doing the talking for. It might be harder to convince a rep that you tried booking twice from your account, vs. you and someone else both ticketing at the same time, and one worked but the other didn't.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: 12HRS on January 24, 2014, 09:57:11 AM
Will united let me cancel an award flight within 24 hours of booking?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 24, 2014, 09:57:35 AM
Yes
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yordai Dooma on January 24, 2014, 10:30:05 AM
Yes
+1 Can even do it online 1-2-3 and it refunds you in full
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 24, 2014, 11:22:53 AM
I just tried doing it and they would not refund me the $75 fee
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 24, 2014, 11:23:40 AM
I just tried doing it and they would not refund me the $75 fee
Doing what?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 24, 2014, 11:31:51 AM
Doing what?
canceling within 24h (I never went to a seminar so I don't know how to avoid it)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 24, 2014, 11:32:26 AM
HUCA, you'll get $75 back.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 24, 2014, 11:49:49 AM
Something else opened up while on was on the phone so I just changed it but I asked them before I made the ticket if I'll get full refund and they said yes so that was kind of disappointed
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 24, 2014, 11:51:02 AM
Was just trying to warn the other guy
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 24, 2014, 11:53:18 AM
Rep was wrong. You're warning is actually misinformation :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 24, 2014, 11:57:33 AM
canceling within 24h (I never went to a seminar so I don't know how to avoid it)
HUCA. Not sure what you mean about something opened up......
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 24, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
I changed the ticket instead of canceling
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: 12HRS on January 24, 2014, 12:30:15 PM
I was not going to pay the $75 fee so it was never nogeiah. but thank you for your answers. Booked and canceled.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 24, 2014, 01:46:18 PM
HUCA, you'll get $75 back.
Or just go to http://www.united.com/web/en-us/content/reservations/refunds/refund.aspx
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 25, 2014, 09:01:02 PM
do i need to have the miles in my account to get united to hold an award ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 25, 2014, 09:21:37 PM
No.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 25, 2014, 09:21:46 PM

do i need to have the miles in my account to get united to hold an award ticket?

Nope. I just did it this past week.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Elgnt on January 25, 2014, 09:43:26 PM
United has  saver award availability for 10/8 in case anyone is planning on going for succos and wants to lock in the low rate.  Only see coach no business
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 26, 2014, 12:17:46 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 26, 2014, 02:27:15 AM
United has  saver award availability for 10/8 in case anyone is planning on going for succos and wants to lock in the low rate.  Only see coach no business
plane b
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 26, 2014, 04:04:46 AM
There is a ton of saver coach space available for nonstop EWR-TLV. At least 8 seats available every day for the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 02:49:33 PM
im looking at a ticket nyc-tlv when i search 1 traveler it has availability in j but when i search for 2 it s suddenly mixed cabin because single cabin flight. how is that?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on January 26, 2014, 02:55:27 PM
im looking at a ticket nyc-tlv when i search 1 traveler it has availability in j but when i search for 2 it s suddenly mixed cabin because single cabin flight. how is that?
Only one seat is available on the 2nd flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
Only one seat is available on the 2nd flight.
but if one IS available how is it a single cabin flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 03:04:24 PM
but if one IS available how is it a single cabin flight?
Read again! Only one seat is available on the 2nd flight.  :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
im looking at a ticket nyc-tlv when i search 1 traveler it has availability in j but when i search for 2 it s suddenly mixed cabin because single cabin flight. how is that?
Says who?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 03:13:06 PM
Read again! Only one seat is available on the 2nd flight.  :)
no 2 are but it will be in economy instead of business. How can I get one bussines seat if its a single cabin
Thanx all of you for your help but I'm just not understanding
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 03:16:06 PM
no 2 are but it will be in economy instead of business. How can I get one bussines seat if its a single cabin
Thanx all of you for your help but I'm just not understanding
If it's a single cabin YOU CAN NOT, YOU CAN NOT, YOU CAN NOT, fly in business class  ;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
I assume it's a not a single class flight but just haves 1 available seat in J therefor when you search for 1 traveler its coming up but when you search for 2 the system is giving you both in mixed cabin.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 03:22:47 PM
If it's a single cabin YOU CAN NOT, YOU CAN NOT, YOU CAN NOT, fly in business class  ;D
so why will it sell me a bussines class seat if i only purchase one? ???
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on January 26, 2014, 04:43:16 PM
I have booked a United flight in F, and that flight arrives in EWR. What happens after Feb. 1 when I want to change it to a LH flight that arrives in JFK, I assume Tri state airports will not trigger a reprice, am I correct?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 26, 2014, 04:49:14 PM
I have booked a United flight in F, and that flight arrives in EWR. What happens after Feb. 1 when I want to change it to a LH flight that arrives in JFK, I assume Tri state airports will not trigger a reprice, am I correct?
Change of airline will probably require a reprice.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
how is polish bussines? lie flat?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 26, 2014, 05:04:46 PM
how is polish bussines? lie flat?
Very good.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 05:05:32 PM
wow i would never imagine, just the word polish
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 05:21:26 PM
so why will it sell me a bussines class seat if i only purchase one? ???
Because it's a 2 cabin aircraft.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 05:31:29 PM

If it's a single cabin YOU CAN NOT, YOU CAN NOT, YOU CAN NOT, fly in business class  ;D
Because it's a 2 cabin aircraft.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 05:32:15 PM
thats not important anymore. polish over luftwaffe?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 26, 2014, 05:33:57 PM
thats not important anymore. polish over luftwaffe?
:o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 05:44:01 PM
:o
yes. you are entitled to disagree
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: DovtheBear on January 26, 2014, 05:44:31 PM
thats not important anymore. polish over luftwaffe?


:o
OMG
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 26, 2014, 05:46:23 PM
yes. you are entitled to disagree
You missed my point.

WTH is
luftwaffe
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 05:48:29 PM
yes thats my point
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
i meant no harm did not think people would be so shocked. (i personally dont really like to go german this is not for me)
apologies to all thise offended
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on January 26, 2014, 05:53:47 PM
thats not important anymore. polish over luftwaffe?
;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: DovtheBear on January 26, 2014, 05:54:11 PM
yes thats my point
You want to fly on "the aerial warfare branch of the German Wehrmacht during World War II"?!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 26, 2014, 06:11:35 PM
thats not important anymore. polish over luftwaffe?
You fly Delta?
Are you aware what the grand grand grand grand father of Delta did??


 לֵךְ אֶל פַּרְעֹה בַּבֹּקֶר הִנֵּה יֹצֵא הַמַּיְמָה...
הנה יצא המימה: לנקביו, שהיה עושה עצמו אלוה ואומר שאינו צריך לנקביו ומשכים ויוצא לנילוס ועושה שם צרכיו

Are you sick in your pants?? Youre going to support these reshaim?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on January 26, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
Untill how long before a united flight can I cancel an award ticket (without redepositing the miles)?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 26, 2014, 06:20:53 PM
okay im sorry but i still need the answer to the question. (i dont fly delta they are #$@%) please dont tell me what americans grandfather did
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 26, 2014, 06:23:17 PM
what americans grandfather did
Did it in the subway
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 26, 2014, 08:49:43 PM
I assume it's a not a single class flight but just haves 1 available seat in J therefor when you search for 1 traveler its coming up but when you search for 2 the system is giving you both in mixed cabin.

If you're looking at VIE-TLV, the mixed-cabin bug is a known issue. PUTPAC United to switch to business (if it's indeed available) after booking economy online.

Though it's not such a big deal - business on that route is just three economy seats with the middle one blocked, anyway.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 26, 2014, 08:52:14 PM
I have booked a United flight in F, and that flight arrives in EWR. What happens after Feb. 1 when I want to change it to a LH flight that arrives in JFK, I assume Tri state airports will not trigger a reprice, am I correct?

Incorrect. Changing carriers is an issue.

As for changing NYC airports... If you HUCA enough you'll find someone to do it, but I've had agents make lots of unfriendly noises at me - more than once - for wanting to do that.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on January 26, 2014, 11:34:23 PM
Will United charge me more points to make a change after the evaluation?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 11:50:12 PM
AJK, your balance is at $12.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 26, 2014, 11:55:47 PM
Will United charge me more points to make a change after the evaluation?
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/39872
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on January 27, 2014, 12:52:43 AM
Will United charge me more points to make a change after the evaluation?
When is United having an evaluation? Last I heard they are having a devaluation soon. ;-)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on January 27, 2014, 04:06:19 AM
When is United having an evaluation? Last I heard they are having a devaluation soon. ;-)
I think he intended to write devaluation, and made a simple spelling mistake.
I did that once, a few years back.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 27, 2014, 05:00:02 AM
AJK, your balance is at $12.

ALOL!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 27, 2014, 08:23:52 AM
I think he intended to write devaluation, and made a simple spelling mistake.
I did that once, a few years back.
You're not fun
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on January 27, 2014, 08:30:20 AM
You're not fun
True, I didn't make the mistake was my stupid iPhone spell checker.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on January 27, 2014, 08:35:50 AM
You're not fun

So I guess everyone else is?? Thank you ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 27, 2014, 10:55:09 AM
AJK, your balance is at $12.

:D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 28, 2014, 12:04:43 AM
Do TAM award flights generally show up on united website or do I need to call? (Or I can't)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2014, 12:17:05 AM
Do TAM award flights generally show up on united website or do I need to call? (Or I can't)
Check ANA also, best is to call in. From what I remember TAM is massed up with showing availability. btw they have poor availability and they are on their way out of the Star Alliance.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on January 28, 2014, 10:38:27 AM
Is it normal to not find any Saver awards on direct flights NYC-TLV until October?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on January 28, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
It used to be that online, changes were only charged $50 (which was a bug I assume). I checked today, and they increased it to $75.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2014, 11:14:41 AM
Is it normal to not find any Saver awards on direct flights NYC-TLV until October?
Of course. When booking NYC-TLV you have to be flexible stopping over in Europe. Though the last minute it opens up a lot (lately the aren't opening up a lot even the last minute)

Wanted to comment this in your thread, but didn't have a chance.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on January 28, 2014, 11:18:47 AM
Of course. When booking NYC-TLV you have to be flexible stopping over in Europe. Though the last minute it opens up a lot (lately the aren't opening up a lot even the last minute)

Wanted to comment this in your thread, but didn't have a chance.

Aha, thanks. So then it makes sense to try to see one of the countries on my list as a stopover to Israel and then after the wedding go back to Europe.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 28, 2014, 11:23:55 AM
Aha, thanks. So then it makes sense to try to see one of the countries on my list as a stopover to Israel and then after the wedding go back to Europe.
Exactly.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on January 28, 2014, 12:40:59 PM
Is it normal to not find any Saver awards on direct flights NYC-TLV until October?

for economy there are plenty of flights
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on January 28, 2014, 12:48:33 PM
for economy there are plenty of flights

I didn't check EVERY day, but nothing in June at least.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on January 28, 2014, 01:21:10 PM
I didn't check EVERY day, but nothing in June at least.

ok but your original question did not make it clear you were looking for summer time when it is harder to find availability
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on January 28, 2014, 01:33:03 PM
ok but your original question did not make it clear you were looking for summer time when it is harder to find availability

Agreed. Valid point :-p
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on January 28, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
I have the following on hold with UA.

19MAR JFK-WAW
24MAR RZE-FRA
24MAR FRA-EWR

Am I able to add JFK/EWR-LAX in say October as a "stopover"?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 28, 2014, 05:02:11 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on January 28, 2014, 05:05:36 PM
Yes.

Would it have to be EWR-LAX as I already have 2 open jaws? Departing JFK and arriving EWR and arriving WAW and departing RZE?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on January 28, 2014, 05:05:43 PM
you could do a stopover on a OW?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on January 28, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
you could do a stopover on a OW?

Its a RT
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 28, 2014, 05:10:40 PM
Would it have to be EWR-LAX as I already have 2 open jaws? Departing JFK and arriving EWR and arriving WAW and departing RZE?

Considered co-terminals, so should be able to depart from JFK, even if they give your grief over having an OJ at your SO point (which should be fine).
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on January 28, 2014, 05:18:45 PM
Considered co-terminals, so should be able to depart from JFK, even if they give your grief over having an OJ at your SO point (which should be fine).

I got JFK-LAX

Thanks

I called twice before posting and was denied both times.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on January 28, 2014, 05:21:52 PM
I have a "free stopover" flight JFK-LAX coming up. I am not going to be taking the flight, nor do I know when I want to take it.

What are my options? If I cancel will it give me credit towards a OW US48 flight by paying a change fee?

If I no-show, what happens?

Any other options?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on January 28, 2014, 06:34:17 PM
I have a "free stopover" flight JFK-LAX coming up. I am not going to be taking the flight, nor do I know when I want to take it.

What are my options? If I cancel will it give me credit towards a OW US48 flight by paying a change fee?

If I no-show, what happens?

Any other options?

Cancelling it to be rebooked with a change fee might work. But no-show will void the ticket.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 28, 2014, 06:50:47 PM
Nothing in may-June for bussines saver
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 02:48:05 PM
When searching for award flights sometimes it would show me how many miles I need to select this flight and sometimes i would be able to select it but it wont show me how many miles (+ fee) it would be, whys that?

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Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 30, 2014, 02:50:13 PM
When searching for award flights sometimes it would show me how many miles I need to select this flight and sometimes i would be able to select it but it wont show me how many miles (+ fee) it would be, whys that?

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Are you booking multiple destination?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 02:54:07 PM
Are you booking multiple destination?
Yes, is that the reason?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on January 30, 2014, 03:10:57 PM
Yes, is that the reason?
Could be. Does it show pricing at your next/last stop?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 03:12:48 PM
Could be. Does it show pricing at your next/last stop?
No, only the subtotal at the end, though when I search the itinerary in one way it does show the pricing, so I guess when you do it in multiple destination it doesn't show.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on January 30, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
No, only the subtotal at the end, though when I search the itinerary in one way it does show the pricing, so I guess when you do it in multiple destination it doesn't show.
I too get that lots of times
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 30, 2014, 05:07:00 PM
Happens on mixed flights.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 30, 2014, 06:36:45 PM
Question: I have 2 UA accounts. 60K and 32K. i need 50k to upgrade my Y class flights. is it worth it for me to add 18k to the smaller account or use the 60 and be left with 10?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on January 30, 2014, 06:40:04 PM
Question: I have 2 UA accounts. 60K and 32K. i need 50k to upgrade my Y class flights. is it worth it for me to add 18k to the smaller account or use the 60 and be left with 10?

If you have a likely near term use for 60K, yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 30, 2014, 06:41:04 PM
If you have a likely near term use for 60K, yes.
whats that mean? thanks for the response
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on January 30, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
whats that mean? thanks for the response

If you have a use for 60K together in the near term, it's worth adding from UR to maintain the 60K balance. But if this trip is the only thing on your radar, then just go with the existing balance in UA so you don't have to commit those UR to UA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 30, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
rots, are they on 2 different names?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 30, 2014, 06:48:45 PM
If you have a use for 60K together in the near term, it's worth adding from UR to maintain the 60K balance. But if this trip is the only thing on your radar, then just go with the existing balance in UA so you don't have to commit those UR to UA.
Thanks. I have other trips, but there maxed out already (as in flying I ) :) I do need a one way flight back but there is no avail, and i see flights for 600 a piece which is decent...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on January 30, 2014, 06:49:39 PM
rots, are they on 2 different names?
yes :(

all three have diff names. (meaning there is a third that has 0,322 in it now)

one my hebrew one my english and one my wifes. was a huge pain to clear my wifes out. i had to add 55k to book summer flights.

No pateince any more to try to merge my accounts. my english name is not real, so i have no proof were the same person, (besides one of my credit cards)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 11:09:22 PM
Im about to book an itinerary and they wanna charge me a $75 service fee (which didnt pop up earlier), any idea what it is?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Emkay on January 30, 2014, 11:13:19 PM
Im about to book an itinerary and they wanna charge me a $75 service fee (which didnt pop up earlier), any idea what it is?
within 21 days?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 11:15:56 PM
within 21 days?
There's a fee to book within 21 day of your trip?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dealvr on January 30, 2014, 11:19:55 PM
There's a fee to book within 21 day of your trip?
For non-elites
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 11:22:59 PM
For non-elites
:-[
No way to avoid it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Emkay on January 30, 2014, 11:23:33 PM
There's a fee to book within 21 day of your trip?
but there are ways around it;D;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 11:25:14 PM
but there are ways around it;D;D
Don't put down the mic ...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 30, 2014, 11:33:37 PM
So why didn't you attend the DD seminar?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 11:41:58 PM
So why didn't you attend the DD seminar?
Im  not really a frequent flyer, what im doing now is just a favor for a close relative of mine who is a little tight in money and is traveling to a wedding,

But the truth is that i did wanna attend the seminar I just couldn't push it in to my schedule.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 30, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
Did anyone PM'd you yet?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 30, 2014, 11:46:04 PM
No.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 30, 2014, 11:50:53 PM
PM sent. War written up in a rush so PM me if you don't understand something.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on January 31, 2014, 02:16:05 AM
Forgive me for sounding like a n00b, i booked a round trip LGA-KBP/KBP-JFK today in saver biz, can i now modify the reservation & add NYC-HNL in biz for the same amount 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 03:23:30 AM
but there are ways around it;D;D
Don't do it.
It's not fun to be pulled off a flight for a stupid $75.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on January 31, 2014, 03:26:25 AM
Don't do it.
It's not fun to be pulled off a flight for a stupid $75.
why do you say that, do you know stories that have been pulled off flights for this :o :o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Saver2000 on January 31, 2014, 03:39:23 AM
Don't do it.
It's not fun to be pulled off a flight for a stupid $75.
If name on ff account matches pax name,  I wouldn't be worried.

But then  again,  who am I..    .?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 03:58:28 AM
If name on ff account matches pax name,  I wouldn't be worried.

Why?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 31, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
Don't do it.
It's not fun to be pulled off a flight for a stupid $75.
Why are you so scared..... I see since they molested you you really have phobias with UA... I do it all the time, never had a problem.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 08:56:05 AM
I'm not joking now.
I also used to do it without any issues but no more.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on January 31, 2014, 08:57:33 AM
I'm not joking now.
I also used to do it without any issues but no more.
Wouldn't worry that much if FF matches Pax name and it's an established account.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 08:59:13 AM
Wouldn't worry that much if FF matches Pax name and it's an established account.
I don't see the relation.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 31, 2014, 09:08:44 AM
I'm not joking now.
I also used to do it without any issues but no more.
Mind to explain?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Emkay on January 31, 2014, 09:36:52 AM
Don't do it.
It's not fun to be pulled off a flight for a stupid $75.
stupid $75? Do you know what I can do with $75?:D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on January 31, 2014, 10:02:36 AM
I will want to change the itinerary below to a RZE-FRA-NYC return in First Class on LH for MArch 24.

Will the change trigger a reprice?

I know nothing is certain at this stage.... I'm looking for opinions


(http://i61.tinypic.com/11hxsn8.png)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 11:40:01 AM
Mind to explain?
What exactly don't you understand?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 11:42:33 AM
stupid $75? Do you know what I can do with $75?:D
well if it's worth for you the risk of paying full fare and the embarrassment of being pulled off the flight in front of all other partners, than by all means, go ahead.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on January 31, 2014, 11:43:25 AM
well if it's worth for you the risk of paying full fare and the embarrassment of being pulled off the flight in front of all other partners, than by all means, go ahead.

Can we get the whole story? Doesn't sound fun.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on January 31, 2014, 11:45:14 AM
What exactly don't you understand?
Can we get the whole story? Doesn't sound fun.
:) :) He sounds tired.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 31, 2014, 11:48:54 AM
Don't do it.
It's not fun to be pulled off a flight for a stupid $75.
Are they entitled to cancel my ticket if their system had let it through?

Just trying to understand.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 12:01:18 PM
Yes
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Emkay on January 31, 2014, 12:06:51 PM
Are they entitled to cancel my ticket if their system had let it through?

Just trying to understand.
and your basing this on what? Experience?


Yes
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2014, 12:14:35 PM
Nobody who used their own miles has been denied boarding for expedite tricks.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Emkay on January 31, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
Nobody who used their own miles has been denied boarding for expedite tricks.
take that meshug, the king has spoken:D:D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: momo613 on January 31, 2014, 12:30:02 PM
but there are ways around it;D;D
Hi,
How can I get around the $75 united fee within 21 days?
Thanks!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 31, 2014, 01:15:43 PM
using the ' cancel without redepositing miles' can i change names also ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 01:45:13 PM
Currently have BKK-FRA-MUC-YYZ booked.

Who thinks I should add YYZ-NYC today before the change, in the hopes that after I fly BKK-FRA, the rep will change me to FRA-NYC without a reprice?

(Essentially, If I add YYZ-NYC, I've made it so it won't change O/D after I arrive in FRA if the rep is inclined to just change it.)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 31, 2014, 02:05:10 PM
can someone please link to united call back page
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 02:05:10 PM
Currently have BKK-FRA-MUC-YYZ booked.

Who thinks I should add YYZ-NYC today before the change, in the hopes that after I fly BKK-FRA, the rep will change me to FRA-NYC without a reprice?

(Essentially, If I add YYZ-NYC, I've made it so it won't change O/D after I arrive in FRA if the rep is inclined to just change it.)
any reason not to?
I mean you want to end up in NY anyway, no?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
If I don't change, I could use 4.5K Avios instead of 10/12.5K UA +$150 change fee...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 02:07:47 PM
If I don't change, I could use 4.5K Avios instead of 10/12.5K UA +$150 change fee...
Is Canada not considered same region as US?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
can someone please link to united call back page

http://bit.ly/14xFdGc
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 02:08:55 PM
Is Canada not considered same region as US?

It is, but I've reached the point where they won't allow me any more connections. It's going to cost me addt'l, and I don't have time today to HUCA HUCA HUCA HUCA UA to avoid the extra.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on January 31, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
http://bit.ly/14xFdGc
PC is now going through maintenance, can't open link.

But I believe that link says it's different regions.

I would spend an additional 6-7k miles for a 10% chance it'll cut one stop.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Centro on January 31, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
http://bit.ly/14xFdGc
1st result is actually DD!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 02:18:30 PM
PC is now going through maintenance, can't open link.

But I believe that link says it's different regions.

I would spend an additional 6-7k miles for a 10% chance it'll cut one stop.

Was responding to avremie.

In any event, if successful, it would actually cut two stops: FRA-NYC or FRA-MUC-YYZ-NYC.

Problem is I may be paying additional miles and $150/pax for a small chance of it not being a reprice.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 31, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
using the ' cancel without redepositing miles' can i change names also ?
can i make it now for myself and later change it to my kid ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 02:30:34 PM
No.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on January 31, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
Why when i search two passengers JFK-LIH in united awards one way partner availability it comes up 40K, & when i search one passenger its 45K one way?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 02:49:54 PM
Screenshot?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 31, 2014, 03:31:02 PM
Thank for the link booked to tlv on Brussels how is their j class?    Was on phone for 80mim
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 03:57:51 PM
Good.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on January 31, 2014, 04:14:05 PM
Good.
better then LH? Lie flat?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on January 31, 2014, 04:18:28 PM
What are the odds they'll let you switch? 2%?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 04:21:26 PM
Funny things happen when you try switching after first flight has been flown.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on January 31, 2014, 04:22:27 PM
better then LH? Lie flat?

Better than some of LH.

Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on January 31, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Screenshot?
after Shabbos b'n
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 01, 2014, 12:50:36 PM
AJK why not call now and see if theyll be able to switch the YYZ to NYC.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2014, 06:14:33 PM
Because that will almost certainly result in a reprice.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 01, 2014, 06:18:03 PM
Because that will almost certainly result in a reprice.
Not yet...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2014, 06:26:51 PM
Switching now will also not work as there is no LH F availability this far out.

Do you mean add on the YYZ - NYC leg?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 01, 2014, 06:31:10 PM
Switching now will also not work as there is no LH F availability this far out.

Do you mean add on the YYZ - NYC leg?
No, I forgot theres no avail on LH F.

You already mentioned that adding on is going to take a lot of HUCA bec you maximized your stops.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 01, 2014, 08:17:18 PM
Good.
-100
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
You're more than welcome to prefer LH J.

Most people wouldn't.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 01, 2014, 08:31:13 PM
You're more than welcome to prefer LH J.

Most people wouldn't.
They're both not good.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2014, 08:33:43 PM
And you're also entitled to your own opinion.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 01, 2014, 08:58:34 PM
And you're also entitled to your own opinion.
I've been on both.
They're both brutal coach seats with middle seat blocked.
And there's no difference between LH and SN.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 01, 2014, 09:00:16 PM
You do realize there are TWO flights from USA-TLV, right?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 01, 2014, 09:03:51 PM
You do realize there are TWO flights from USA-TLV, right?
Sorry, Was under the impression he's talking about the EUR-TLV legs.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yo on February 01, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
UPDATE: United has extended the devaluation until February 3. 2014 so you have this weekend to book award trips! Straight from a Unites representative “Booking an award where the mileage amount should have been reduced on February 1? If you book one of these awards on February 1 or 2, we will honor the reduced mileage amount. Although initial ticketing will be at the current, higher level, we will retroactively re-price your award to the lower mileage amount within 10 business days.”

If you are up to date in the travel, points, and miles world than you are already well aware that starting tomorrow, February 1, 2014 it will cost a significant more to redeem your United miles for international flights. For those that only redeem United miles for domestic flights, you are not affected, do not worry (keep in mind though, Hawaii is impacted)! But those that typically save up their miles for international flights, especially partner airlines, I suggest booking your flights today!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 01, 2014, 11:00:11 PM
I hope to eventually change those tickets for days unavailable now and change the airline if they will let without paying more miles
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 02, 2014, 01:54:21 AM
UPDATE: United has extended the devaluation until February 3. 2014 so you have this weekend to book award trips! Straight from a Unites representative “Booking an award where the mileage amount should have been reduced on February 1? If you book one of these awards on February 1 or 2, we will honor the reduced mileage amount. Although initial ticketing will be at the current, higher level, we will retroactively re-price your award to the lower mileage amount within 10 business days.”

If you are up to date in the travel, points, and miles world than you are already well aware that starting tomorrow, February 1, 2014 it will cost a significant more to redeem your United miles for international flights. For those that only redeem United miles for domestic flights, you are not affected, do not worry (keep in mind though, Hawaii is impacted)! But those that typically save up their miles for international flights, especially partner airlines, I suggest booking your flights today!

No need to cross post.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 02, 2014, 06:03:39 AM
I booked a a ticket on UA.com (revenue) The return was in Y class and i have screen shots showing i am in Y class. I called up last week to upgrade and she said 25k each ticket. I called today and they changed the fare to W class which is 35k+550 a ticket!

She wont chanfge it back. anything i can do?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SavingsBigtime on February 02, 2014, 09:59:36 AM
Need some help here please !

If a united tick from ewr to tlv in business class one way is 150k points how much is that going to be once the higher rates go into effect ?
160k or 170k ?
I'm understanding 170k but someone else just told me 160?
Who is correct ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2014, 10:05:35 AM
So standard award is also going up? ::) ::)  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SavingsBigtime on February 02, 2014, 11:36:24 AM
That's the argument !
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 02, 2014, 12:54:14 PM
how long in advance to they allow you to select seats? does it make sense i cant select seats for july trip
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 02, 2014, 12:55:48 PM
What metal?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: BigDanFan on February 02, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
So standard award is also going up? ::) ::)  :o :o :o :o
no - not for the mainland 48 states of the USA, Alaska, and Canada

info on main site - also Drago's doc link:
DDF user Drago has the entire changes wrapped up nicely in this spreadsheet

New UA chart: http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/news/United-Award-Chart-02-01-14.pdf
orig UA: http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/news/United_Award_Chart_2012-03-03.pdf
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on February 02, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
If I reserve now a one way business NYC-TLV for 60k with 2 stops in Europe as I can't find availbilty with one stop, will they let me change it to a one stop flight if it opens up? Will they charge me more?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 02, 2014, 01:15:10 PM
They'll let you. And likely charge you the miles difference.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on February 02, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
What miles difference can there be if I don't change the orgin and destination? Will they charge me according to the new chart?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 02, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Correct.

Nothing is guaranteed to be the old chart unless it's a simple date change.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on February 02, 2014, 01:24:09 PM
And what is United saying?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 02, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
Uhm, that IS what United is saying.

Where do you think I'm getting this stuff?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 02, 2014, 01:26:23 PM
What metal?
LH and brussels
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on February 02, 2014, 01:36:46 PM
Uhm, that IS what United is saying.

Where do you think I'm getting this stuff?
Do you think its worth risking?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 02, 2014, 05:11:13 PM
I booked a a ticket on UA.com (revenue) The return was in Y class and i have screen shots showing i am in Y class. I called up last week to upgrade and she said 25k each ticket. I called today and they changed the fare to W class which is 35k+550 a ticket!

She wont change it back. anything i can do?
So this lorain brown screwed me :( she saw my ticket priced at a lower fare and decided to change it for no good reason other than bec she is a disgusting pig. I have an email conf showing im in Y class, and i spoke to another supervisor, in short he said there was a mistake in the system and we repaired it. i asked if united only would honor public glitches but a glitvh in my ticket he wont... he laughed.

Any advise how to get my ticket back to Y class?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on February 02, 2014, 05:14:06 PM
So this lorain brown screwed me :( she saw my ticket priced at a lower fare and decided to change it for no good reason other than bec she is a disgusting pig. I have an email conf showing im in Y class, and i spoke to another supervisor, in short he said there was a mistake in the system and we repaired it. i asked if united only would honor public glitches but a glitvh in my ticket he wont... he laughed.

Any advise how to get my ticket back to Y class?

Try HUCA?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 02, 2014, 05:18:43 PM
Try HUCA?
did 7 times so far today. there are so many notes saying not to allow me into Y its crazy... I finally got one sup to let me email him my itin, and prove to him im not lying. and then he called me back and made up a story why i cant. (if only i wsnt stupid and when she offered it to me to upgrade for 25k each i shouldve just jumped... didnt think i would get a bit screwed)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 02, 2014, 09:17:58 PM
When I book a flight lets say NYC-TLV for tomorrow and I am paying the $75 close in fee - now I am cancelling it without redepositing the miles, will I get refunded the $75 close in fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on February 02, 2014, 09:44:01 PM
Cmiiw but I think that you don't get the close-in fee back.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 02, 2014, 09:53:04 PM
When I book a flight lets say NYC-TLV for tomorrow and I am paying the $75 close in fee - now I am cancelling it without redepositing the miles, will I get refunded the $75 close in fee?
Not automatically, either PUTPAC or fill out the online refund request form.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 02, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
LH and brussels
LH you do it on their website, Brussels you have to PUTPAC.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: kangarruu on February 02, 2014, 10:39:28 PM
Ok I'm seriously  :o

Either the supervisor I spoke to at United has no idea what she's talking about, or I have been misunderstanding the United fee chart this whole time.

A bit of background: DH and I have a free one-way (JFK-HNL) on Feb 23rd from our trip to Europe last summer. I recently committed to running a half marathon in Disney on the same day. We've been waiting for business award availability to open up for months to switch the date but have seen nothing.

Given that today was 21 days from the flight we thought it was the last opportunity to change the flight before the fee switched from $75 to $100. Our goal was to try to get the fee waived (nope) or to try plan B for the less than ideal date of Sept 3rd (also nope since the sup noticed that it was more than 1 year since the date of booking). When I pressed her about what I was supposed to do since there was no availability she told me to keep waiting and maybe something will open up. I pointed out the fee increase after the 21 days we played some verbal chess until she straight out told me that the increase is based on the target date NOT the previous departure date.

Have I been so very wrong or can a sup seriously be this mistaken?
 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 02, 2014, 11:05:48 PM
LH you do it on their website, Brussels you have to PUTPAC.
I would have to call the airline directly not united awards?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on February 02, 2014, 11:08:44 PM
I would have to call the airline directly not united awards?
Correct.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Bostener on February 02, 2014, 11:47:08 PM
I haven't been here for a few days and may have missed something but I was wondering is there any point in using, tonight, Chase points to to book business to TLV when you can always get it from ANA for 90?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 03, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
TLV-NYC still pricing at old price
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 03, 2014, 10:21:56 AM
So is there any indication that they listened to Dan  8) and put the devaluation on hold?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: BigDanFan on February 03, 2014, 10:31:54 AM
So is there any indication that they listened to Dan  8) and put the devaluation on hold?
+1
that would be awesome  :D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 10:34:00 AM
TLV-NYC still pricing at old price
I'm still seeing old prices as well...

Though also not seeing any award flights past today in the system.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on February 03, 2014, 10:34:25 AM
I'm not seeing anything at all
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 10:40:58 AM
Anyone else hoping for a glitch to come to of this  ;)
Refresh refresh refresh...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 03, 2014, 10:41:56 AM
Refresh refresh refresh...

Lol..
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 03, 2014, 10:45:18 AM
i see tons of saver biz in the whole feb (direct) tlv_nyc
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 03, 2014, 10:46:09 AM
No flights showing at all, other than domestic (which aren't really being devalued, anyway). Guess it's happening... :(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 03, 2014, 10:46:41 AM
i see tons of saver biz in the whole feb (direct) tlv_nyc

Sample date?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 10:46:51 AM
No flights showing at all, other than domestic (which aren't really being devalued, anyway). Guess it's happening... :(
Why during the middle of a business day. IMHO, should have been done early AM.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 03, 2014, 10:47:56 AM
Why during the middle of a business day. IMHO, should have been done early AM.

Of all the stupid crap United does without rhyme or reason, this is the only thing that's bothering you?! :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 03, 2014, 10:48:24 AM
So I don't see the calendar (that shows you two months availability) on the top of the search results screen anymore.. Anyone have this issue. I liked that calendar

ETA: Yay. Its back..
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 10:49:01 AM
So I don't see the calendar (that shows you two months availability) on the top of the search results screen anymore.. Anyone have this issue. I liked that calendar
Same thing. I am not even getting any results when searching.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 10:49:15 AM
Of all the stupid crap United does without rhyme or reason, this is the only thing that's bothering you?! :P
Currently :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 03, 2014, 10:50:19 AM
Same thing. I am not even getting any results when searching.

 >:(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sb5917 on February 03, 2014, 11:03:22 AM
united.com could not find any available flights for award
travel meeting your requirements. You may modify your
search criteria or contact United Reservations in United
States at 1-800-300-1547.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 03, 2014, 11:12:41 AM
Now I get what they are doing.. Its a new ploy from United to get people to pay for phone booking charges.

"Effective Immediately, united.com will not show any award availability until the day of departure. This includes all Star Alliance carriers and our own United flights."

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 03, 2014, 11:16:47 AM
Now I get what they are doing.. Its a new ploy from United to get people to pay for phone booking charges.

"Effective Immediately, united.com will not show any award availability until the day of departure. This includes all Star Alliance carriers and our own United flights."

 ;D ;D


Cant be true!!!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 03, 2014, 11:18:49 AM
Slowly but surely the awards are being updated.. This starts a new day in our lives  :(

NYC-YYZ - UA is 10k, AC is 12.5k.

 >:( >:(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 11:20:13 AM
Now I get what they are doing.. Its a new ploy from United to get people to pay for phone booking charges.

"Effective Immediately, united.com will not show any award availability until the day of departure. This includes all Star Alliance carriers and our own United flights."

 ;D ;D
I don't see this posted anywhere, but i do only see availability for day of departure.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 03, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
I don't see this posted anywhere, but i do only see availability for day of departure.

MY attempt at a joke.  ???
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 11:21:52 AM
Still seeing prices at old rates. NYC-MAD
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 03, 2014, 11:24:19 AM
MY attempt at a joke.  ???
I get it. Though still true that no availability is being shown past the current date.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sb5917 on February 03, 2014, 11:29:47 AM
old prices nyc-lhr
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 03, 2014, 11:29:53 AM
MY attempt at a joke.  ???


I took that joke to heart, Pls!

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 03, 2014, 11:40:49 AM
At least united pushed it off a few days to get a working website not like others who forced you to buy from a broken
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ashers on February 03, 2014, 11:47:23 AM
At least united pushed it off a few days to get a working website not like others who forced you to buy from a broken
Not working... >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2014, 11:54:29 AM
Slowly but surely the awards are being updated.. This starts a new day in our lives  :(

NYC-YYZ - UA is 10k, AC is 12.5k.

 >:( >:(
Always been that way.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 03, 2014, 11:55:19 AM
Always been that way.

Oh.Ok. Guess I just never paid attention..

But, good morning.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 03, 2014, 12:25:48 PM
So can we keep our hopes high? Or it's just a matter of time?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 03, 2014, 12:27:12 PM
Always been that way.
+1
But  they're supposed to stop the 10k/500 mile thing even for UA flights, right?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: BigDanFan on February 03, 2014, 03:11:29 PM
+1
But  they're supposed to stop the 10k/500 mile thing even for UA flights, right?
shh.....
don't tell them..   ;) ...maybe if nobody says anything here, they'll keep it...  (hope, hope)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2014, 03:13:12 PM
Nope
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 04, 2014, 12:38:44 AM
UA award search is back up, and painful numbers show up :(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 04, 2014, 12:47:11 AM
UA award search is back up, and painful numbers show up :(
:'( :'(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2014, 12:51:52 AM
So sad:

(http://gyazo.com/1e493959b3dfc3486c591e12f3eaf887.png)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 04, 2014, 12:52:53 AM
ALOL!! Lets laugh. HAHAHA.... Smisek you rook!!!!! 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 04, 2014, 12:54:21 AM
So sad:

(http://gyazo.com/1e493959b3dfc3486c591e12f3eaf887.png)
Sorry for the repost It took me a while until I found FC availability.....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 04, 2014, 12:56:28 AM
Look for Feb. 11 NYC-TLV with partner....... >:(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: hr555 on February 04, 2014, 01:07:58 AM
It seems that if the long-haul is UA, even if the short-haul partner is the same class, it prices like UA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 04, 2014, 01:31:59 AM
Put in to Google: "smisek" it comes up worst ceo!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 04, 2014, 01:41:26 AM
I'm still curious what kind of laws they've  implemented on changes. That feature is still broken.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on February 04, 2014, 02:11:29 AM
BKK - SYD TG F 40K WOW there is still hope for the TG F Lounge and Spa.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: thaber on February 04, 2014, 02:17:13 AM
Had an interesting experience, which may be common but was new for me. I was on the phone with United regarding a ticket, and they told me there was no 40K availability from BOS-TLV on UA equipment the day I was looking. I was looking at it on the screen, so I told her that there was, she dared me to book it. I was able to book it. She swears that there was nothing showing on her end.
I recommended that they consider getting internet out there in the call center.
Is this a normal experience?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 04, 2014, 03:53:05 AM
ALOL!! Lets laugh. HAHAHA.... Smisek you rook!!!!!

What are you laughing about?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on February 04, 2014, 04:33:42 AM
Put in to Google: "smisek" it comes up worst ceo!
fifth option is smisek fired :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: BigDanFan on February 04, 2014, 05:57:59 AM
fifth option is smisek fired :)
-1
even then, chances are that these award miles have already been voted in by a board and are here to stay..   :( it wouldn't help the program if he was fired.  maybe the airline..
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 04, 2014, 08:06:20 AM
What are you laughing about?
It happened to be funny for me seeing that FC to FRA is 110,000K, it sounded like DL, so I was looking with whom to laugh.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 04, 2014, 09:59:52 AM
I hope we get a write up about when it will and when won't get repriced
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 04, 2014, 11:57:46 AM
Some minor consolation after the devaluation
Quote
If you fly a United operated flight from say the US to Europe in business or first, and then have a short connecting segment within Europe on a partner airline like Lufthansa, then you won’t be hit with the higher charge for partners, even if that segment is also in business of first.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 04, 2014, 12:11:31 PM
Some minor consolation after the devaluation
I read that from Australia to SE Asia its cheaper
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 04, 2014, 12:40:05 PM
Quote
Updated handling for mixed UA-Partner United/partner award itineraries: As we shared with the initial announcement, the Star Alliance/Partner partner award pricing will apply to Business or First awards for itineraries that include at least one flight segment operated by a MileagePlus partner carrier in Business or First.

However, as a customer benefit we have made an exception for most itineraries which require connecting onto a MileagePlus/Star partner in First or Business for a short distance. Specifically, if a United/Copa award itinerary contains a connecting segment on a MileagePlus/Star partner that is wholly within one MileagePlus award region, then the United award price will apply.

        For example: IAD-FRA in United BusinessFirst connecting to FRA-FCO in Lufthansa Business, will be priced at the United mileage award amount.
        Note that this exception will not apply to a few specific regions and routings, such as intra-Africa connecting segments and certain fifth-freedom routes (e.g. BKK-KUL operated by Lufthansa)

Change clarification for itineraries booked before February 3: Many of you have also been asking about what kinds of itinerary changes will re-trigger a re-price to the new award chart, and I can share some additional follow-up details about that. As a reminder, the existing change process will apply, and any change that requires an award to re-price will require an add/collect of the additional miles under the new award price structure. Fees for change/cancel will still apply per our existing policies. Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:

        Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
        Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
        Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 04, 2014, 12:40:37 PM
Meaning ANA J is the same as ANA F connecting to long-haul UA (ORD-BOS is the mixed cabin):
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7348/12306134745_d05168847b_b_d.jpg)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 04, 2014, 12:53:01 PM
Is this just within the same region or even crossing regions?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 04, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
Is this just within the same region or even crossing regions?
Same region only, see quoted post.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: raphy781 on February 04, 2014, 04:55:48 PM
Can someone please explain this for dummies? What won't trigger a reprice?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on February 04, 2014, 04:58:46 PM
Can someone please explain this for dummies? What won't trigger a reprice?
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/40297 (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/40297)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on February 04, 2014, 07:14:30 PM
What about changing a flight that bumps down a cabin and changes airlines, but maintains the same origin/destination cities?

I booked two tickets flying I on OS from FCO – JFK via VIE at @50K a piece. I may have to change the date and the ticket, to flying X on LH from FCO – JFK via FRA. Origin and destination cities remain the same, airline changes, and I’d bump down a class from I to X. If I do that, would I just have to pay the $75 change fee, and would I get the 40K pre-deval miles credited back to my account?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
Cabin cannot change.

Quote
Changes that will not trigger a re-price for itineraries ticketed before February 3, 2014 include:

        Date/time (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
        Carrier on one or more segments (cabin, region, and award type can’t change)
        Origin/Destination within the same regions (carrier and cabin can’t change)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on February 04, 2014, 08:55:15 PM
Cabin cannot change.

...And this is where my confusion lies:  The deval did not change award rate for partner award flights in coach between Europe and USA.  The ticket was 30K before the deval, 30K after the deval.  I used 50K to book a business class seat before the deval, and now need to change it to a coach seat, which still requires 20K fewer miles than my business seat.  So yes, I'm changing cabins, but I'm using fewer miles.  Do I get those miles redeposited?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 04, 2014, 09:58:02 PM
UA.com now shows SAS award availability.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 04, 2014, 10:20:27 PM

YAY.
So to be clear: I'm currently booked TLV-BRU-EWR on SN-J and UA-F, and let's say within 14 days of travel I see seats released in LH F, can I change to TLV-FRA-JFK in LF-J and LH-F without a reprice?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @jack123 on February 04, 2014, 10:38:45 PM
not related to deval but general united award question.. if i currently have two one ways that i booked separately as the became available jfk-tlv, tlv-jfk, can i combine them in to one RT so i can add an extra domestic leg? TIA
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 04, 2014, 10:44:54 PM
...And this is where my confusion lies:  The deval did not change award rate for partner award flights in coach between Europe and USA.  The ticket was 30K before the deval, 30K after the deval.  I used 50K to book a business class seat before the deval, and now need to change it to a coach seat, which still requires 20K fewer miles than my business seat.  So yes, I'm changing cabins, but I'm using fewer miles.  Do I get those miles redeposited?

The conditions are for changes to prevent a reprice, since you don't fall within the criteria, there will be a reprice - which will result in a refund
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 04, 2014, 11:54:08 PM
YAY.
So to be clear: I'm currently booked TLV-BRU-EWR on SN-J and UA-F, and let's say within 14 days of travel I see seats released in LH F, can I change to TLV-FRA-JFK in LF-J and LH-F without a reprice?

From the UA insider quote, it looks like it will not reprice. I said this from the beginning, and all the masters didn't agree with me.

I have something similar like you, and am very happy to be flying my last LH F flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 04, 2014, 11:56:59 PM
Any idea how to make the "change flight" work online? It looks like it works for same date changes only.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 05, 2014, 12:19:56 AM
not related to deval but general united award question.. if i currently have two one ways that i booked separately as the became available jfk-tlv, tlv-jfk, can i combine them in to one RT so i can add an extra domestic leg? TIA

Not possible.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on February 05, 2014, 01:27:52 AM
I booked BEFORE Feb 1 Dev LH F 67K:

JFK-FRA LH J (No F was Available)
FRA-HND Waitlist on LH F

If F opens within 14 days of Flight can I upgrade JFK-FRA to F with  out reprice?.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 05, 2014, 11:20:16 AM
Better than pre-deval pricing for ex TLV ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on February 05, 2014, 01:50:15 PM
not related to deval but general united award question.. if i currently have two one ways that i booked separately as the became available jfk-tlv, tlv-jfk, can i combine them in to one RT so i can add an extra domestic leg? TIA
Not possible.

HUCA. I did it once, but took a couple of calls to find the agent who would do it.  The agent couldn't combine the trip into one reservation, but was able to get me the extra domestic leg.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: moish on February 05, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
so i have currently bkk-cdg TG F, cdg-fra LH J and finally fra-jfk LH J

is there anything coming from ua that might indicate if i will/wont be able to get LH F when it opens up 2 weeks prior? when i spoke to an agent before the deval she was certain i would be able to get it since i already gave the miles for f
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on February 05, 2014, 02:33:26 PM
so i have currently bkk-cdg TG F, cdg-fra LH J and finally fra-jfk LH J

is there anything coming from ua that might indicate if i will/wont be able to get LH F when it opens up 2 weeks prior? when i spoke to an agent before the deval she was certain i would be able to get it since i already gave the miles for f
All depends on how it's programmed in and as I said before the deval and as Lucky said yesterday it all depends on the IT and that has nothing to do with what they actually planned/wanted
Quote from: Lucky
Or maybe they just couldn’t figure the IT out, which I guess is the most likely explanation.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avadah on February 05, 2014, 03:16:53 PM
I was on the United website and selected a saver award economy, clicked on it, got the error screen and had to start over. Of course saver isn't available anymore. Any chance of it opening again? It's for April 3.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 05, 2014, 03:39:53 PM
Trying to change a domestic award ticket I just booked I don't see the option why?
(I want to change it to next week)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 05, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
Trying to change a domestic award ticket I just booked I don't see the option why?
(I want to change it to next week)
Is it ticketed?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 05, 2014, 04:19:53 PM
Is it ticketed?

not yet.

How long can it take to get ticketed?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 05, 2014, 04:35:40 PM
not yet.

How long can it take to get ticketed?
From 3 minutes to 1 hour under normal circumstances.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: boropark123 on February 05, 2014, 04:46:26 PM
Any idea how i can book my wife thru my 1k account a paid ticket without having to pay extra for economy comfort?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on February 05, 2014, 05:23:40 PM
Any idea how i can book my wife thru my 1k account a paid ticket without having to pay extra for economy comfort?
She gets EC if you book yourself with her.....

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: boropark123 on February 05, 2014, 06:08:11 PM

She gets EC if you book yourself with her.....
But I wont be going, so should i just book myself too and then cancel myself?...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 05, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
Ok, changing award flights now works fine.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on February 05, 2014, 07:44:32 PM
I have now TLV-VIE-JFK on OS, can I change it to JFK-FRA-TLV on LH without a reprice? (I know of course not, but shooting a try)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 05, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
I have now TLV-VIE-JFK on OS, can I change it to JFK-FRA-TLV on LH without a reprice? (I know of course not, but shooting a try)
hmmm....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on February 06, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
Better than pre-deval pricing for ex TLV ;)

Nice.
I got that to work last year pricing out slightly lower and ending up in BKK, but it was fickle as it didn't price it out for me properly each time.
But w/ the increased rates, it's good to see it still available.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 06, 2014, 10:44:29 AM
I've never seen this before. 3 daily flights from TLV-EWR.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 06, 2014, 10:53:47 AM
I've never seen this before. 3 daily flights from TLV-EWR.
wow, what's that UA12?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on February 06, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
succos start oct 8
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 06, 2014, 11:57:54 AM
I have now TLV-VIE-JFK on OS, can I change it to JFK-FRA-TLV on LH without a reprice? (I know of course not, but shooting a try)
any time I change the airline international I'm automatically changing the connecting city so there is always a reprice?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 06, 2014, 12:06:19 PM
Since when is changing the routing going to trigger a reprice?

Hint: UA has said it wont.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 06, 2014, 12:13:04 PM
Since when is changing the routing going to trigger a reprice?

Hint: UA has said it wont.
according to the post on main site changing connecting city will get a reprice
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 06, 2014, 12:15:13 PM
according to the post on main site changing connecting city will get a reprice

If it says that, it's wrong.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 12:20:18 PM
Where does it say that?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 06, 2014, 12:41:19 PM
I've never seen this before. 3 daily flights from TLV-EWR.
I see the same NYC-TLV on the 5th.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 01:28:12 PM
Always happens tishrei time.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on February 06, 2014, 02:26:17 PM
Where does it say that?
this:
-You won’t have to use more miles if you change the operating airline as long as you stay in the same class of service and the same region.
-You won’t have to use more miles if you change the origin, connecting, or destination cities as long as the origin and destination cities are in the same region (US, Europe, Middle East, etc) as you originally booked. However you can’t change the class of service or operating airline in this case.

now if i fly nyc-tlv through Europe and i change airlines that automatically changes the connecting city so that should resunt in a reprice. i wont get swiss or turkish out of the same connecting city as LH. where did i go wrong?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 06, 2014, 02:29:24 PM
this:
-You won’t have to use more miles if you change the operating airline as long as you stay in the same class of service and the same region.
-You won’t have to use more miles if you change the origin, connecting, or destination cities as long as the origin and destination cities are in the same region (US, Europe, Middle East, etc) as you originally booked. However you can’t change the class of service or operating airline in this case.

now if i fly nyc-tlv through Europe and i change airlines that automatically changes the connecting city so that should resunt in a reprice. i wont get swiss or turkish out of the same connecting city as LH. where did i go wrong?


Reading comprehension exercises for you, sir.

According to the posted quote, you'd be able to change NYC-FRA-TLV to NYC-IST-TLV without a reprice.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 06, 2014, 03:06:32 PM
Doing the "change" online from UA F to LH F triggers a reprice, why is that? Its same origin and same destination.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 06, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Doing the "change" online from UA F to LH F triggers a reprice, why is that? Its same origin and same destination.
May I guess you're changing EWR/JFK?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on February 06, 2014, 03:17:42 PM
May I guess you're changing EWR/JFK?
Shouldn't matter
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 06, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
Shouldn't matter
Experience (with online change)?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 06, 2014, 03:22:58 PM
PUTPAC
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 06, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
You guys are hoping UA.bomb is good enough to accurately reprice (or not) following the deval which introduced a partner chart AND increased awards when it could barely book a multi city itinerary before the deval?

(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 06, 2014, 03:54:59 PM
May I guess you're changing EWR/JFK?

It may have been and EWR/JFK, but it's considered one destination.

I will PUTPAC when my flight opens up, I just played around with a similar flight, just to see what will happen.

As a side note, UA started charging $75 change fees and $100 if within 21 days. They finally spent all the money they lost until now in IT and fixed that painful mistake.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 06, 2014, 03:57:57 PM
Are you saying the trick is dead?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: harrym on February 06, 2014, 04:02:06 PM
Anyone else here having problems making a simple date change?
HUCA'ed a couple of times, and no go, forget about UA.bomb, none of the reps seem to know the rules..
Are the rules specifically stated anywhere so I can tell them to look it up?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 06, 2014, 04:40:44 PM
Are you saying the trick is dead?

No, am talking about changing after 24 hours of ticketing.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 06, 2014, 04:41:47 PM
Anyone else here having problems making a simple date change?
HUCA'ed a couple of times, and no go, forget about UA.bomb, none of the reps seem to know the rules..
Are the rules specifically stated anywhere so I can tell them to look it up?

Did you talk to the "callback" line? They are the original Conti people....They should know better. let us know how it goes, because I will also be doing a change once my flights open up. My change is carrier.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: harrym on February 06, 2014, 05:43:14 PM
update: finally got it done. It's a big pain because the system automatically triggers a reprice, so the rep has to call the support desk to get permission for each change.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 06, 2014, 05:50:21 PM
update: finally got it done. It's a big pain because the system automatically triggers a reprice, so the rep has to call the support desk to get permission for each change.

Thanks for the update. I am glad it works at least.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on February 08, 2014, 09:32:59 PM
Booked in Nov 2013 PRE Devaluation then canceled:

JFK - FRA - KIX LH F O

Can I change the date in May 2014
JFK - FRA - HND LF F O
Without the reprice? Im reading mixed reports from FT and dansdeals that you can  cities without change without a reprice, can anyone confirm this?!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 08, 2014, 10:34:37 PM
Booked in Nov 2013 PRE Devaluation then canceled:

JFK - FRA - KIX LH F O

Can I change the date in May 2014
JFK - FRA - HND LF F O
Without the reprice? Im reading mixed reports from FT and dansdeals that you can  cities without change without a reprice, can anyone confirm this?!
Should be able to. May require a few HUCA's
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: hr555 on February 08, 2014, 11:42:20 PM
I have a pre-devalue ticket fron NY-Europe UA-LH-LH-UA in business.
I tried playing around to see what changes can be made w/o triggering reprice.
I can make virtually any change w/o reprice to new chart. i.e NY-TLV LH w/date change, only 10K more per leg.
LAX-Europe no additional. NY-NRT UA-ANA only 10K more. NY-Europe LH-LH change to First, only 17.5K more.
(they do charge $100 change fee)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 12:14:39 AM
I have a pre-devalue ticket fron NY-Europe UA-LH-LH-UA in business.
I tried playing around to see what changes can be made w/o triggering reprice.
I can make virtually any change w/o reprice to new chart. i.e NY-TLV LH w/date change, only 10K more per leg.
LAX-Europe no additional. NY-NRT UA-ANA only 10K more. NY-Europe LH-LH change to First, only 17.5K more.
(they do charge $100 change fee)
That's not what we call here without a reprice, sir.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: hr555 on February 09, 2014, 12:40:07 AM
those that reprice, do so per the old chart.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 12:51:37 AM
those that reprice, do so per the old chart.
Am I stupid, slow or tired that I don't understand what you're trying to say?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 09, 2014, 01:17:33 AM
Am I stupid, slow or tired that I don't understand what you're trying to say?
That.  ;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on February 09, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
That.  ;D
Wow, epic showdown coming.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 10:03:30 AM
Wow, epic showdown coming.
No, he's being ignored.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Drago on February 09, 2014, 10:13:08 AM
No, he's being ignored.
touche
Ilherman sir, would you like to take this opportunity to respond? Speak now or forever hold your piece (sic?).
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 09, 2014, 02:25:28 PM
When checking united expert mode/fare class for saver award availability with an explorer card linked, am I looking at

XN - Saver Coach Award
I - Saver Business Award

Is this right?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 03:25:54 PM
When checking united expert mode/fare class for saver award availability with an explorer card linked, am I looking at

XN - Saver Coach Award
I - Saver Business Award

Is this right?
Yes, in addition to O - Saver First award and X - Saver Coach Award.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2014, 03:37:39 PM
Yes, in addition to O - Saver First award and X - Saver Coach Award.
XN is always ≥ X, thus no need to check X.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 09, 2014, 03:39:48 PM
Yes, in addition to O - Saver First award and X - Saver Coach Award.

Is it possible to have availability in X and not in XN?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 03:43:05 PM
Is it possible to have availability in X and not in XN?
XN is always ≥ X, thus no need to check X.
How about he's looking for 8 award seats, in XN he only sees 7, but there's still one in X, totaling 8.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2014, 03:45:52 PM
How about he's looking for 8 award seats, in XN he only sees 7, but there's still one in X, totaling 8.
Zeh lo oveid kacha.
When a seat is taken from XN it goes away from X as well.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 03:59:29 PM
Zeh lo oveid kacha.
When a seat is taken from XN it goes away from X as well.
kk
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on February 09, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
How about he's looking for 8 award seats, in XN he only sees 7, but there's still one in X, totaling 8.

You must have learn't in a good yeshivah!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 09, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
You must have learn't in a good yeshivah!

Tell me about it
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 13, 2014, 08:10:54 AM
Seems like Brussels Airlines is back available through UAL.com

Saw some availability online, plus this (http://boardingarea.com/onemileatatime/2014/02/13/brussels-airlines-award-space-united-com/)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 13, 2014, 09:00:52 AM
Zeh lo oveid kacha.
When a seat is taken from XN it goes away from X as well.

+1

Warning: major digression ahead, with plenty of technical details. Hard hats required... as well as patience. >:D

Higher buckets overlap lower buckets - like we say, "b'chlal ma'asayim maneh". For example, if you look at revenue biz tickets, and you see J8 C8 D7 Z5 P2, that does not mean there are 30 seats (8 + 8 + 7 + 5 + 2) available; it means there are 8, as follows:

2 seats available in whatever fare class you want,
5 that are available in J C D or Z (but not P),
7 that are available in J C or D (but not Z or P),
and 8 that are available in J or C.

If you take two seats in P, then in theory the availability will drop to J6 C6 D5 Z3 P0 - each bucket loses 2 seats, not just the bucket you took from. (I say "in theory", because in practice, airlines can do whatever the heck they want... and they often do. If the computer wants, it can suddenly make all of them only available in J, resulting in J6 C0 D0 Z0 P0. Or if they want to sell everything fast, they can put everything into P, resulting in J6 C6 D6 Z6 P6. But I'm digressing, which is why this is in small print. :P) Likewise, if you take 5 in D, that won't result in only D going to zero; Z and P will (generally) go to zero as well with it.

Complicated enough?

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 13, 2014, 09:05:36 AM
Great explanation MB!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 13, 2014, 09:16:05 AM
Great explanation MB!
+1
Thank you
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on February 13, 2014, 09:32:50 AM
Likewise, if you take 5 in D, that won't result in only D going to zero
why wouldnt there be 2 left in D? Or is this example saying, after you already took the 2 from P?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avrumy22 on February 13, 2014, 11:49:22 AM
I have a flight from LAX-EWR today (award travel). I would like to push it off two days. My question is, bec of the snow is there a way  get United to rebook me on a diff flight this does not have award availability?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jack on February 13, 2014, 11:55:41 AM
I have a flight from LAX-EWR today (award travel). I would like to push it off two days. My question is, bec of the snow is there a way  get United to rebook me on a diff flight this does not have award availability?
Did they cancel / delay ur flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avrumy22 on February 13, 2014, 11:56:41 AM
Did they cancel / delay ur flight?

It shows status to on time! But from what I hear EWR is a swamp!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on February 13, 2014, 11:57:23 AM
I have a flight booked in (I) FCO-VIE-JFK pre-deval, and need to change the date.  Origin and destination cities will remain the same, layover will change, but the flight is in coach.  ExpertFlyer is showing 9+ seats available in I for the flight.  I realize that Plan B only works when flying United metal, but is there a way to change my current reservation to the coach flight, but then snag the business availability if/when it becomes available at my pre-deval rate?  I'm nervous to wait to make the change until I opens up because I don't want to lose the date altogether.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 13, 2014, 12:19:10 PM
Great explanation MB!
+1
Thank you

Thanks, no problem. :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 13, 2014, 12:21:25 PM
why wouldnt there be 2 left in D? Or is this example saying, after you already took the 2 from P?

Yup, I was continuing from:
If you take two seats in P, then in theory the availability will drop to J6 C6 D5 Z3 P0

I guess I should've stuck with the original numbers (D7) and said "if you take 7 in D". Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on February 13, 2014, 12:23:23 PM
And many airlines, like SQ will have I1 on a route like SIN-MLE and it will go down to 0 for about a minute before going back to I1.
Go figure.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on February 13, 2014, 12:23:34 PM
that's what i thought, but the "likewise" threw me off.
great explanation, thanks.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 13, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
that's what i thought, but the "likewise" threw me off.
great explanation, thanks.
Thanks, no problem. :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on February 13, 2014, 12:28:43 PM
And many airlines, like SQ will have I1 on a route like SIN-MLE and it will go down to 0 for about a minute before going back to I1.
Go figure.

Trust me, I've seen crazier. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay crazier...

What you saw is actually explainable - an agent pulls the I class segment into his workspace, bringing the availability to 0; then the customer hangs up, so the agent releases all the segments, and they all go back into their buckets. Simple.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 13, 2014, 12:32:37 PM
And many airlines, like SQ will have I1 on a route like SIN-MLE and it will go down to 0 for about a minute before going back to I1.
Go figure.
That's simple.
Just like EK (and I think LY as well) don't release more than a certain amount of award seats on specific routes/cabins at a time.
So you just have to grab two seats, wait a few minutes and the system automatically adds another two seats.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on February 13, 2014, 12:35:20 PM
Trust me, I've seen crazier. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay crazier...

What you saw is actually explainable - an agent pulls the I class segment into his workspace, bringing the availability to 0; then the customer hangs up, so the agent releases all the segments, and they all go back into their buckets. Simple.
I think Dan is referring to when it goes down to 0 after HE books and it jumps back to 1 after a few minutes.

But well, I'm not Dan's spokesperson (I used to be), so I'll let him take the microphone.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sam28 on February 13, 2014, 01:54:14 PM
can someone help me book a award flight with the extre leg ? could I do it online or only over the phone ?

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 13, 2014, 01:54:39 PM
Both are possible. Easier on phone.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sam28 on February 13, 2014, 02:08:53 PM
how do I book and award flight with extra leg online I am on hold with united over 1 hour so I will try to book online if u can please help me ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 13, 2014, 02:10:13 PM
how do I book and award flight with extra leg online I am on hold with united over 1 hour so I will try to book online if u can please help me ?
Use the multi city option.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on February 13, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
how do I book and award flight with extra leg online I am on hold with united over 1 hour so I will try to book online if u can please help me ?
Use multi-city. Sometimes it may not book, so try to book legs separately and call to combine them.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 13, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
how do I book and award flight with extra leg online I am on hold with united over 1 hour so I will try to book online if u can please help me ?
Use the call back line. there very sweet sometimes
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 20, 2014, 06:00:33 PM
used my united club card to get enhanced availability from nyc to tel aviv nonstop economy saver awards and saw very little availability especially after early March in which there was no availability?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 20, 2014, 06:06:38 PM
used my united club card to get enhanced availability from nyc to tel aviv nonstop economy saver awards and saw very little availability especially after early March in which there was no availability?
Correct. There is very little to no availability NYC-TLV even with the card.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on February 21, 2014, 07:11:12 AM
Booked a RT to Europe pre-deval for 100K. Called yesterday to change route, including destination. The system automatically repriced, the agent told me it would be an additional 40K. I made my case being that I had booked pre deval I should be entitled to a change without requiring additional mileage. I didnt have high hopes as I had already hucad about 5 times. Additionally this agent didnt seem to be the brightest. When I asked for a supervisor to override the reprice, she responded " I am a supervisor".

So I pleaded and begged, lo and behold she says I will allow it. She proceeded to make the change without charging any additional miles, or collecting the $100 change fee or the $51.60 in additional taxes.

My e-ticket receipt shows 140000 miles redeemed.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 21, 2014, 07:16:34 AM

Booked a RT to Europe pre-deval for 100K. Called yesterday to change route, including destination. The system automatically repriced, the agent told me it would be an additional 40K. I made my case being that I had booked pre deval I should be entitled to a change without requiring additional mileage. I didnt have high hopes as I had already hucad about 5 times. Additionally this agent didnt seem to be the brightest. When I asked for a supervisor to override the reprice, she responded " I am a supervisor".

So I pleaded and begged, lo and behold she says I will allow it. She proceeded to make the change without charging any additional miles, or collecting the $100 change fee or the $51.60 in additional taxes.

My e-ticket receipt shows 140000 miles redeemed.

Be careful. They might eventually take out the additional 40,000 miles from your account.

 I had tickets where it said 120,000 and they only took out 100,000 and they soon took out the other 20,000.

Be warned.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on February 21, 2014, 07:23:44 AM
Be careful. They might eventually take out the additional 40,000 miles from your account.

 I had tickets where it said 120,000 and they only took out 100,000 and they soon took out the other 20,000.

Be warned.

She told me she will override the reprice. Either way It was booked from a burner account with no miles left.


Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on February 21, 2014, 07:27:58 AM
Is this a legal routing?
JFK-WAW-PRG
PGR-FRA-RZE-FRA-JFK-SFO

Specifically the return flying through FRA twice?

Also would the JFK-SFO be allowed to be booked for say 10 months from now?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on February 21, 2014, 07:37:37 AM
She told me she will override the reprice. Either way It was booked from a burner account with no miles left.

I too made  a change ( start and end cities same-- did change date,airline and stop over city) , original 100k r/t at old chart  rate -- changed today with no additional miles -- b4 I did it I made 3 seperate calls and "asked" if any adt'l miles required  and all 3 agents said ,no  begging was required , would not worry about adt'l miles later

new award ticket shows  100k
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on February 21, 2014, 07:47:20 AM
She told me she will override the reprice. Either way It was booked from a burner account with no miles left.

Don't be scared by the scarecrows. You're fine, nothing to worry.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on February 21, 2014, 07:54:05 AM

She told me she will override the reprice. Either way It was booked from a burner account with no miles left.

Thats better. I was just saying my past experience. Thats all.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 21, 2014, 09:19:29 AM
Correct. There is very little to no availability NYC-TLV even with the card.

has this always been the case? I thought as per past posts United has best award availability? Trying to book two nonstop economy saver nyc-tel aviv award tickets for May any suggestions?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 21, 2014, 09:45:42 AM
Is this a legal routing?
JFK-WAW-PRG
PGR-FRA-RZE-FRA-JFK-SFO

Specifically the return flying through FRA twice?

Also would the JFK-SFO be allowed to be booked for say 10 months from now?
JFK-SFO is not an issue.

No way to know for certain without knowing how long you plan on staying in each place but it can be legal if the computer is choosing a routing through FRA rather than you choosing one as it looks like backtracking. With HUCA, anything is possible though.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on February 21, 2014, 09:54:54 AM
JFK-SFO is not an issue.

No way to know for certain without knowing how long you plan on staying in each place but it can be legal if the computer is choosing a routing through FRA rather than you choosing one as it looks like backtracking. With HUCA, anything is possible though.

I'm going PRG-FRA-RZE arriving at 2:45 pm, then RZE-FRA-JFK departing at 6:20 AM the next day.

I was told that the JFK-SFO cant be my stopover as I already have a stop in RZE. In any case I'm thrilled to have gotten the rest of it confirmed.

I will no-show for JFK-SFO and just rebook as a canceled award and pay change fee.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 21, 2014, 02:34:53 PM
I'm going PRG-FRA-RZE arriving at 2:45 pm, then RZE-FRA-JFK departing at 6:20 AM the next day.

I was told that the JFK-SFO cant be my stopover as I already have a stop in RZE. In any case I'm thrilled to have gotten the rest of it confirmed.

I will no-show for JFK-SFO and just rebook as a canceled award and pay change fee.
You'd need to make that an OJ to get it to work.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on February 21, 2014, 03:17:52 PM
You'd need to make that an OJ to get it to work.

Which part?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 21, 2014, 04:08:26 PM
Which part?
xxx-SFO
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on February 22, 2014, 08:47:44 PM
xxx-SFO

Please explain. I need to make what an OJ to get what to work?

I'm currently ticketed for FRA-JFK-LAX. If I dont take the JFK-LAX flight..... yiure saying I won't be able to re-use that leg?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on February 24, 2014, 08:42:25 PM
What's everyone's opinion - better to do Plan B on United 767-400 (and risk not getting business first at all, if not available), or actually book Business on LH A380-800?  2 travelers.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on February 24, 2014, 08:45:58 PM
What's everyone's opinion - better to do Plan B on United 767-400 (and risk not getting business first at all, if not available), or actually book Business on LH A380-800?  2 travelers.
Difference in price? if you do plan b properly, I would go for that considering the huge  discrepancy in miles needed
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on February 24, 2014, 08:52:14 PM
Difference in price? if you do plan b properly, I would go for that considering the huge  discrepancy in miles needed

Same price - I booked I pre-deval, and need to change the date.  I'm assuming it would be the same 50k, or dropped to 30k a ticket if I do plan B and don't get it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on February 24, 2014, 08:55:47 PM
Same price - I booked I pre-deval, and need to change the date.  I'm assuming it would be the same 50k, or dropped to 30k a ticket if I do plan B and don't get it.

In that case I'd go with LH. I wouldn't want to risk it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 09:14:36 AM
Correct. There is very little to no availability NYC-TLV even with the card.

so what would you do? any suggestions? whats the point of racking up United miles for nyc-tel aviv if no availability? I have to wait for the last minute and then pay fee for less than 21 days?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on February 25, 2014, 09:27:52 AM
so what would you do? any suggestions? whats the point of racking up United miles for nyc-tel aviv if no availability? I have to wait for the last minute and then pay fee for less than 21 days?
ding ding ding!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 01:32:23 PM
ding ding ding!

how do you avoid less than 21 day close in fee
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on February 25, 2014, 01:34:19 PM
how do you avoid less than 21 day close in fee
hamavin yavin ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 25, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
I was always able to reserve a booking with UA even with no miles in the account, this seems dead now, can someone shed some light?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 02:09:58 PM
hamavin yavin ;)

care to share
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jack on February 25, 2014, 03:14:56 PM

Club card
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Lou Bob on February 25, 2014, 03:37:14 PM
Club card
that's only for beginners  ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 25, 2014, 05:53:00 PM
that's only for beginners  ;)

link please?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on February 25, 2014, 08:12:58 PM
link please?
There is none. They say that it's only shared at the seminars. (I wasn't zoche yet, looking forward to the next one in the tri-state)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 26, 2014, 01:20:13 PM
Just logged in to United with club card(wife's account) and then without and saw same award availability

anyone else experience this?

Is United cutting down on expanded award availability>
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on February 26, 2014, 01:22:07 PM
Proves nothing.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on February 26, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
LOL
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 26, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
Proves nothing.

This is common?
expanded availability varies by the day?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on February 26, 2014, 02:48:06 PM
When I upgrade with miles, 35,000 + $600 and I am waitlisted, can I get 2 free bags at check in?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on February 26, 2014, 08:20:38 PM

This is common?
expanded availability varies by the day?

There needs to be XN space available for it to show.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 26, 2014, 09:10:43 PM
There needs to be XN space available for it to show.
IN or ON too.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on February 27, 2014, 09:24:19 AM
There needs to be XN space available for it to show.

and this XN space changes daily??
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on February 27, 2014, 09:42:10 AM
and this XN space changes daily??
Can change by the second.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on March 02, 2014, 06:22:46 PM
am booked biz to tlv but not direct.

is there any way to tell if ua opens up a seat other than constantly checking?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on March 03, 2014, 07:39:37 PM
IN or ON too.

Since when does the Club card give expanded biz/first availability?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 03, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
I have to make 4 tickets to NY for my family from LA but we need to fly together.
I have the points to do 2 free flights though my United MileagePlus card, and another 1 through my starwoods. is there any way to make sure i can get the same flight, and that i can by a 4th seat online, and have them all be on the same flight, or is it all luck of the draw? Can i transfer my Amex points to United...? Or vice versa?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 02:18:08 AM
Amex doesn't transfer to UA. SPG would take a HUGE haircut transfering to UA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 09:37:44 AM
Amex doesn't transfer to UA. SPG would take a HUGE haircut transfering to UA.
so whats the best way to do what i need
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 09:40:56 AM
Sign up for some chase cards or get anothe united card.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 09:42:31 AM
is there any way to guarantee that all 4 tix will be on the same flight if I use points for 3 and pay for the 4th?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 09:47:18 AM
When are the flights? Do you see if there's lots of seats still available?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
When are the flights? Do you see if there's lots of seats still available?
April 7 to April 28
Lax to jfk or EWR
and i didnt check yet
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on March 04, 2014, 09:52:41 AM
am booked biz to tlv but not direct.

is there any way to tell if ua opens up a seat other than constantly checking?

is waitlisting the way to do this?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 09:59:02 AM
April 7 to April 28
Lax to jfk or EWR
and i didnt check yet
on paid tickets there's still lots of open seats. They're actually $308 on Kayak.com
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 10:01:55 AM
on paid tickets there's still lots of open seats. They're actually $308 on Kayak.com
My question is how to make sure that we are all on the same flight
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 10:06:17 AM
If you are concerned about the paid ticket that shouldn't be an issue as there seems to be lots of open seats. Award seats are more limited and can get snatched up so depends how soon you book them.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 10:09:41 AM
so i should book my award flights and then once all of them are on the same flight book the paid one?
Does united allow changes to the flights within 24hrs like delta does so that i can book the paid one and then if its not on the same flight i can change it
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 10:13:10 AM
You can check BEFORE booking which flight you want on the award tickets and see if that will work with the paid and vice-ve rca.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 10:18:56 AM
You can check BEFORE booking which flight you want on the award tickets and see if that will work with the paid and vice-ve rca.
Thank you
and is it really not worth it to transfer my SPG points to United? How bad is it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 10:22:20 AM
IIRC it was 2:1. Not worth burning SPG points like that.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ckmk47 on March 04, 2014, 10:24:12 AM
Thank you
and is it really not worth it to transfer my SPG points to United? How bad is it?
No answer to your question, but UR (chase) transfers to united 1:1.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on March 04, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
IIRC it was 2:1. Not burn burning SPG points like that.

Correct. It's 2:1

http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/account/starpoints/transfer/airline_partner_list.html
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 04, 2014, 10:57:49 AM
As long as there is award availability for four, just use your united for 2, and your amex/starwood to transfer to another star alliance partner like aeroplan and/or US airways and book the other two.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: philbenjoe on March 04, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
As long as there is award availability for four, just use your united for 2, and your amex/starwood to transfer to another star alliance partner like aeroplan and/or US airways and book the other two.
+1. Forgot about that.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 03:40:17 PM
As long as there is award availability for four, just use your united for 2, and your amex/starwood to transfer to another star alliance partner like aeroplan and/or US airways and book the other two.
Sounds good but please excuse my ignorance how then would I be able to use those points to get that united flight? will I see the united flight on US airways' website?
Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 04, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
Search for four saver seats on UA.com.

If they show up there, they should be available to be be able to be booked by any star alliance carrier.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 04:17:58 PM
Search for four saver seats on UA.com.

If they show up there, they should be available to be be able to be booked by any star alliance carrier.
so i would book the united flight on the other alliance carriers website?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 04, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
Or by calling in.

(Can't book partners on US website, for instance.)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: elch on March 04, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
Or by calling in.

(Can't book partners on US website, for instance.)
Thanks and the point system works 1:1 between alliance airlines im guessing
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 04, 2014, 05:45:13 PM
Just logged in with United club card on UA.com and NO award economy saver flights nonstop Nyc-tel aviv
can someone else check/verify please

Just want to make sure I am not searching incorrectly?

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 04, 2014, 05:51:28 PM
You're searching wrong.

(http://gyazo.com/92a75633bd6978d0cb6333b162d16ca0.png)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 04, 2014, 06:19:53 PM
Thanks and the point system works 1:1 between alliance airlines im guessing
Yes. Also if you transfer 20K You'll get 25K.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 04, 2014, 06:23:42 PM
Yes. Also if you transfer 20K You'll get 25K.

 ???

Who's talking about SPG?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mdrills on March 04, 2014, 07:29:15 PM
Yes. Also if you transfer 20K You'll get 25K.
i thought spg to united was 2:1 not 20k for 25k
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on March 04, 2014, 09:53:34 PM
is there any way to guarantee that all 4 tix will be on the same flight if I use points for 3 and pay for the 4th?
If there 3 saver seats, just transfer to AC and book it through them.

You could always purchase a flight and cancel if you can't get the other 3 seats.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 04, 2014, 09:58:41 PM
i thought spg to united was 2:1 not 20k for 25k
To UA it's 2:1, to most other airlines it's 1:1 and 20:25
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 04, 2014, 10:01:33 PM
???

Who's talking about SPG?
See here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=26570.msg751137#msg751137
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 05, 2014, 08:15:25 AM
You quote a post but are referring to a different non- quoted post ten posts earlier?

How does that answer the question he's asking now?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 05, 2014, 12:22:03 PM
Don't get me angry :) elch was looking to Book  3 UA award flights, two with his UA miles and one with his SPG that he will transfer to UA, so we all told him that SPG transfers 2:1 to UA, no good... and you told him to transfer to US airways where they transfer 1:1, so I added that it's 25:20 as well. He never said that he has some other miles/points he was talking exclusively about SPG.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 06, 2014, 01:13:26 PM
You're searching wrong.

(http://gyazo.com/92a75633bd6978d0cb6333b162d16ca0.png)

My original point/questions was not accurate. I meant in the near future ie March, April and May.  No  nonstop economy saver award flights nyc-tel aviv even with club card for those months. zippo
For all the talk about the awesome United availability this is pathetic at least for nonstop flights

My guess is there is more economy saver nonstop availability for this route through AA on El-AL for these upcoming three months

at least for those who seek specifically nonstop flights nyc-tel aviv might be better to start amassing AA miles than UA miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2014, 01:20:22 PM
The reason why UA is awesome is for having so many partners to choose from without fuel surcharges, not because of availability on their own metal (though they do open that up closer in)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 06, 2014, 01:23:28 PM
NYC-TLV got so bad lately :(

I used to see flights open up last minute even in July, August, and lately nothing :(

#UNITEDUNFRIENDLY
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on March 06, 2014, 01:41:59 PM
NYC-TLV got so bad lately :(

I used to see flights open up last minute even in July, August, and lately nothing :(

#UNITEDUNFRIENDLY
+1 not cool.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 06, 2014, 01:51:18 PM
+1 not cool.
Looks like they are targeting Jewish destinations  :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 06, 2014, 01:54:50 PM
The reason why UA used to be awesome is for having so many partners to choose from without fuel surcharges, not because of availability on their own metal (though they do open that up closer in)
FTFY. 57,500 miles for a OW to Europe  >:( :o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 06, 2014, 02:29:47 PM
The reason why UA is awesome is for having so many partners to choose from without fuel surcharges, not because of availability on their own metal (though they do open that up closer in)

hence my original point for those who seek nonstop flights is AA on EL AL better in terms of availability? If so I think you should make this distinction on your posts on main site

lately not even opening up closer in(for example last couple of days no nonstop flights even on Club Card thats just ridiculous)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2014, 02:31:07 PM
Not like El Al has good availability either and then you lose all of the connecting options.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on March 06, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
El Al happens to have excellent F availability.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2014, 02:39:26 PM
El Al happens to have excellent F availability.
Sure, because you can't use AA miles for it and it's prohibitively expensive with LY points.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 06, 2014, 03:39:02 PM
Not like El Al has good availability either and then you lose all of the connecting options.

but they have much better nonstop flights than 0  for the next three months? I believe if we call AA they will give you a plethora of options in the next three months, I can try calling?

At any rate my point is some need nonstop only (ie mothers flying with babies and either they don't want to stop over or are scared to stop over whatever the reason etc.....) and therefore with all due respect you should point this out on your main posts for those who want nonstop only
Thanks for all of your hard work!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on March 06, 2014, 04:06:09 PM
El Al happens to have excellent F availability.
Been pretty rough lately.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
but they have much better nonstop flights than 0  for the next three months? I believe if we call AA they will give you a plethora of options in the next three months, I can try calling?

At any rate my point is some need nonstop only (ie mothers flying with babies and either they don't want to stop over or are scared to stop over whatever the reason etc.....) and therefore with all due respect you should point this out on your main posts for those who want nonstop only
Thanks for all of your hard work!
It just depends when you look.
I booked several UA nonstops in both Y and J so far this year.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 06, 2014, 04:19:37 PM
but they have much better nonstop flights than 0  for the next three months? I believe if we call AA they will give you a plethora of options in the next three months, I can try calling?

At any rate my point is some need nonstop only (ie mothers flying with babies and either they don't want to stop over or are scared to stop over whatever the reason etc.....) and therefore with all due respect you should point this out on your main posts for those who want nonstop only
Thanks for all of your hard work!
So you want him to post that for the next 3 months don't book with United only with ElAl?

Maybe try emailing Daraius that he should have an interview with you.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 06, 2014, 04:54:35 PM
It just depends when you look.
I booked several UA nonstops in both Y and J so far this year.

but as you said yourself United award flights are good mainly for the partner non fuel surcharge availability not the nonstop availability;
whatever time of year we look United is not as good as AA on El AL re nonstops
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 06, 2014, 04:58:02 PM
So you want him to post that for the next 3 months don't book with United only with ElAl?

Maybe try emailing Daraius that he should have an interview with you.

I believe its not just the next three months; most of the year regarding nonstops AA -El AL is better

prove me wrong?  I called AA a month ago and they had a lot of options nonstop from JFK and Newark
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 06, 2014, 05:01:50 PM
So you want him to post that for the next 3 months don't book with United only with ElAl?

Maybe try emailing Daraius that he should have an interview with you.

Did I ever say that  :o

just said to point out that when amassing miles if your goal is nonstop only on this route consider AA which might be another/better option
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: yoshapman on March 09, 2014, 01:01:30 AM
Thinking of booking 3 Hawaii coach tickets on United, but it's 10 months away. From looking at the chart, it would cost $600 to redeposit these miles if something happened. Any way around this? Assuming if the times change for any of our 4 flights, we can redeposit with no fee? Anything else I don't know about.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 09, 2014, 01:07:26 AM
Did I ever say that  :o

just said to point out that when amassing miles if your goal is nonstop only on this route consider AA which might be another/better option
There is availability with UA on March 24
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: 12HRS on March 09, 2014, 01:49:57 AM
Thinking of booking 3 Hawaii coach tickets on United, but it's 10 months away. From looking at the chart, it would cost $600 to redeposit these miles if something happened. Any way around this? Assuming if the times change for any of our 4 flights, we can redeposit with no fee? Anything else I don't know about.

I think you can also change the dates of your flights with no fees.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 10, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
There is availability with UA on March 24

one day?

try calling AA and see how many nonstop flights they have in march, april and may
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 10, 2014, 09:32:07 AM
No worries.... I thought you're looking to fly with United so I found a date.....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on March 10, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
No worries.... I thought you're looking to fly with United so I found a date.....

Thanks for your efforts truly appreciated

I was only trying to point AA availability vs.  United on this route as you well know by now :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on March 10, 2014, 03:37:56 PM
What happen when I downgrade from business to economy, do I get back the points difference? Is there a charge?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: john on March 11, 2014, 06:05:43 PM
I have a reward flight booked in Business for 60000 miles sometime last year for this july travel. with new miles rules, for same route post feb, it is costing 80000 miles. I want to change the date of travel. I am premier 1K. origination and destination remains same. date and carrier changes based on reward availability. previously it was turkish now it will be lufthansa. will united charge me additional 20000 miles for it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on March 11, 2014, 06:14:44 PM
I have a reward flight booked in Business for 60000 miles sometime last year for this july travel. with new miles rules, for same route post feb, it is costing 80000 miles. I want to change the date of travel. I am premier 1K. origination and destination remains same. date and carrier changes based on reward availability. previously it was turkish now it will be lufthansa. will united charge me additional 20000 miles for it?

I booked last yr Europe-Miami at 50k biz --- changed in Feb  ---date   ,airline and routing  left final destination no change --- did not charge extra miles
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 11, 2014, 06:30:54 PM
John, if an agent give you problems, HUCA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on March 12, 2014, 07:03:42 AM
I currently have the following booked.

3-19 JFK-WAW-PRG
3-23 PRG-FRA-RZE
3-24 RZE-FRA-JFK-LAX

I want to cancel the return as I booked PRG-DXB-JFK on EK for $1900.

I woukd like to keep the PRG-RZE flughts as well.

I am told that I vant gave a stopover on a oneway, which I understand. I asked UA to keep those flights and charge more miles. They said they would need to cancel the flights and release to inventory, and chances are they wouldn't come back.

Are they able to keep them in my ticket and just charge me more?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on March 12, 2014, 11:14:56 AM
last year you could book a tlv-ewr award in biz about 2-3 hours before the flight when they would open a seat. is that still true?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 12, 2014, 11:23:56 AM
last year you could book a tlv-ewr award in biz about 2-3 hours before the flight when they would open a seat. is that still true?
If they open up space, yes.

Do they open up as much space as last year, no.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on March 12, 2014, 11:25:26 AM
If they open up space, yes.

Do they open up as much space as last year, no.

thanks, and do you just keep searching/calling to find it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 12, 2014, 11:27:11 AM
I currently have the following booked.

3-19 JFK-WAW-PRG
3-23 PRG-FRA-RZE
3-24 RZE-FRA-JFK-LAX

I want to cancel the return as I booked PRG-DXB-JFK on EK for $1900.

I woukd like to keep the PRG-RZE flughts as well.

I am told that I vant gave a stopover on a oneway, which I understand. I asked UA to keep those flights and charge more miles. They said they would need to cancel the flights and release to inventory, and chances are they wouldn't come back.

Are they able to keep them in my ticket and just charge me more?
Read your signature... Just call in saying you wanna cancel the return flight (they may wanna charge a fee) make sure you get Philippine Rep you have a chance she will not notice the stopover on the departure.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 12, 2014, 11:30:49 AM
Moshe are you booked in J or Y? Maybe we can arrange a DO ;)

It will cost you an Additional 15/30K miles if you do it as a separete resarvation. Also space is very limited on the FRA-RZE flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on March 12, 2014, 01:36:13 PM
Moshe are you booked in J or Y? Maybe we can arrange a DO ;)

It will cost you an Additional 15/30K miles if you do it as a separete resarvation. Also space is very limited on the FRA-RZE flight.

J are you on the LO flight?

I would pay an extra 15K or even 30, however there are no seats available. I want to keep my seats and just pay more if need be.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 12, 2014, 01:53:35 PM
J are you on the LO flight?

I would pay an extra 15K or even 30, however there are no seats available. I want to keep my seats and just pay more if need be.
Nope I am booked with LH.

Yeah.... everything is full. Try what I told you.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on March 12, 2014, 02:13:13 PM
Nope I am booked with LH.

Yeah.... everything is full. Try what I told you.

Whats your itin?

When will you be in LZN?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 12, 2014, 02:19:35 PM
In LZN I have a private DO with R Elimeilech!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on March 12, 2014, 03:53:58 PM
In LZN I have a private DO with R Elimeilech!

+10000 other people.

Where we DOing?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on March 12, 2014, 06:13:55 PM
What happen when I downgrade from business to economy, do I get back the points difference? Is there a charge?
BUMP
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on March 12, 2014, 10:56:35 PM
I just got a email from united that there has been some changes to my award tickets would that allow me to change it further without fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 12, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
I just got a email from united that there has been some changes to my award tickets would that allow me to change it further without fee?
Probably yes. What type of changes?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on March 12, 2014, 10:58:46 PM
Usually yes.
You can use it to many advantages.
Free redeposit
Free change
Ask partners to release their award seats
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 12, 2014, 11:00:06 PM
Ask partners to release their award seats
What this mean?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on March 13, 2014, 12:59:46 PM
I want to change the dates for two months earlier
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 13, 2014, 01:06:37 PM
http://milevalue.com/master-thread-holds-on-united-awards/

Cool.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on March 13, 2014, 06:34:43 PM
Usually yes.
You can use it to many advantages.
Free redeposit
Free change
Ask partners to release their award seats
Will they let you change a reservation to a standard award on a different flight? (Originally booked with Savor)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on March 17, 2014, 02:58:37 PM

1) What happens if a United 1K cancels a standard award within an hour of the flight?
2) What happens if a United 1K misses a standard award flight? Do the miles redeposit?

I need some help figuring out a trip. I have the international segments all done through Singapore, but SFO - NYC is not available at the saver level on any carrier for that date.
It's worth it in this instance to book standard award level. However, we are unsure if we will make the connection to the earlier flight, (has beds) so would like to book the later flight as a hedge, if we could get away without losing.


Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mclovin on March 18, 2014, 03:14:24 AM
I booked a flight before the deval and cancelled without redeposit. I'm trying to rebook on the phone (can't do on the website) and they are saying I have to pay the new rates. Does the trick only work when rebooking online or do I need to huca until I get someone who can do it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on March 18, 2014, 08:23:55 AM
I booked a flight before the deval and cancelled without redeposit. I'm trying to rebook on the phone (can't do on the website) and they are saying I have to pay the new rates. Does the trick only work when rebooking online or do I need to huca until I get someone who can do it?
Try HUCA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mclovin on March 18, 2014, 09:11:05 AM
Try HUCA.
I did (before this). Took her 20 minutes on hold but she got it done. She understood right away what I wanted and thought it should work. First person I spoke to said it won't work.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on March 18, 2014, 01:37:08 PM
1) What happens if a United 1K cancels a standard award within an hour of the flight?
2) What happens if a United 1K misses a standard award flight? Do the miles redeposit?

I need some help figuring out a trip. I have the international segments all done through Singapore, but SFO - NYC is not available at the saver level on any carrier for that date.
It's worth it in this instance to book standard award level. However, we are unsure if we will make the connection to the earlier flight, (has beds) so would like to book the later flight as a hedge, if we could get away without losing.

Bump. Paging Meir613 , AJK Et Al.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on March 18, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
What is the time frame for cancellation on United? This is for a ticket on *A partners. Does it have to be before 24 hours of departure? Will a no-show just cancel the ticket to be reused at a later date?

Flight is in 26 hours so this is pretty urgent.

Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on March 18, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
What is the time frame for cancellation on United? This is for a ticket on *A partners. Does it have to be before 24 hours of departure? Will a no-show just cancel the ticket to be reused at a later date?

Flight is in 26 hours so this is pretty urgent.

Thanks
No. (im almost sure- maybe 2 hours)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on March 18, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
No. (im almost sure- maybe 2 hours)

how about no-show?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on March 19, 2014, 10:57:34 AM
You can cancel a flight up to one minute before departure.

A no show doesn't get the miles back.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: damaxer91 on March 19, 2014, 11:18:08 AM
You can cancel a flight up to one minute before departure.

A no show doesn't get the miles back.



That may be the official policy but its not enforced

You can cancel after departure
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @jack123 on March 20, 2014, 02:56:19 PM
not sure if this is the right thread, please direct me to correct one if not, but i wanted to know if anyone has noticed if UA still opens up business award seats pretty consistently on day of/ day before flights. in particular, looking to go ewr-tlv 3/29 and i see there are still plenty of seats for sale (expert mode shows at least 9) but trying to gauge the chances of award saver seats opening. any advice or insights appreciated. thanks.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 20, 2014, 03:14:54 PM
I believe they've cutback releasing J seats last min as of late.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @jack123 on March 20, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
Thanks. coach still pretty consistent release?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on March 21, 2014, 03:09:50 AM
I've read through a lot of the posts (I know no one likes repeated questions) but I'm still very unclear about united miles saver flights and canceling them.

I'm looking for a flight this summer from Europe back to Dallas on a semi specific date (July 27 so I get back before the 9 days). Anyway, I booked a pretty torturous return which cuts my trip short by 3 days. I decided to cancel it in the end because I didn't want to pay for a change if a better ticket opened up. If it makes a difference, I happen to be flying economy (and the only available savers are on partner airlines of united so unless united metal opens up, there's no chance for business).

My questions are:1) should I be worried that savers WONT open up considering its tourist season in Europe? 2) what are the official and unofficial cancelation policies on united? Can you rebook with miles? Does it need to be booked over the phone (the agent told me there was a 50-100$ fee to change dates, airlines, cities and so on) 3) if I booked the outbound flight to Europe already one way as a saver. Will I be able to book a stopover later by trying to combine both one ways by calling an agent at united?

Thanks in advance for any and all help!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: vintastic16 on March 23, 2014, 10:44:13 AM
Quick question for those that can help me:

I am trying to book an award flight from TLV to NYC. The way I've constructed it is like this:

Feb. 19 - TLV - ZRH (4 hour layover)
Feb 19 - ZRH - ORD (spend Shabbos in Chicago)
Feb 22 - ORD - LGA

The tickets are pricing out at 55,000 miles apiece. Based on the routing rules, I was under the impression that the tickets should be pricing out at 42,500 apiece since I thought United would view my stay in Chicago as a stopover within the rules as part of an international trip. Am I mistaken about this or is the computer pricing it out incorrectly? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on March 23, 2014, 10:51:36 AM
are you trying to book a RT?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on March 23, 2014, 10:58:06 AM
Quick question for those that can help me:

I am trying to book an award flight from TLV to NYC. The way I've constructed it is like this:

Feb. 19 - TLV - ZRH (4 hour layover)
Feb 19 - ZRH - ORD (spend Shabbos in Chicago)
Feb 22 - ORD - LGA

The tickets are pricing out at 55,000 miles apiece. Based on the routing rules, I was under the impression that the tickets should be pricing out at 42,500 apiece since I thought United would view my stay in Chicago as a stopover within the rules as part of an international trip. Am I mistaken about this or is the computer pricing it out incorrectly? Any help is greatly appreciated.

You only have a stopover if it is r/t. If you are booking a oneway then no free stopover and it would add another segment onto your ticket
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: vintastic16 on March 23, 2014, 11:06:51 AM
I am booking it as a one way as I already booked the trip to TLV when space opened up. Thank you Dr Moose and Chucksterace for the replies, greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ckmk47 on March 23, 2014, 11:11:49 AM
Can he call and combine it into a round trip now, or is it too late?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on March 23, 2014, 11:17:48 AM

Can he call and combine it into a round trip now, or is it too late?

Just add this trip to your original ticket and you should be good.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on March 23, 2014, 11:36:04 AM

Just add this trip to your original ticket and you should be good.
I also have the outbound flight and will book the return soon. If I want to add it to the ticket to create a roundtrip (and then add a stopover), can I do it online and then call to avoid the 25$ booking few or do I need to call
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on March 23, 2014, 11:39:04 AM
I think you will need to call but dont know. But just get them to waive the $25 fee
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on March 23, 2014, 11:40:10 AM
Do they do that, that easily? Is it better to talk to an American or and international?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on March 23, 2014, 11:42:49 AM

Do they do that, that easily? Is it better to talk to an American or and international?

With united, anything can be done.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on March 23, 2014, 11:55:37 AM
I'm planning on booking this return soon but I haven't found the perfect flight. The one available is cutting my trip short a few days. Do you they open up flights pretty regularly or should I take the flight that is available
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on March 23, 2014, 11:56:38 AM
Do they do that, that easily? Is it better to talk to an American or and international?

Call the UA Philippines desk CS, the Americans are A##holes big time based on my exprience for anything from UA, the US based CS they try to ruin your flights and make things hard, while the Philippines UA Desk wants to make it easier for you.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 23, 2014, 01:22:00 PM
Just add this trip to your original ticket and you should be good.

He'd pay change fees.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 25, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
A family member missed the return portion of a United domestic award.

Can he now change the return to a day next week for a $100 change fee or has he lost the return?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yaalili on March 25, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
This is amazing news, just got this to my inbox. Azul has a ton of flight option, though tam is more convenient for connections.

"Connect to more than 100 cities throughout Brazil with Azul Brazilian Airlines, our newest MileagePlus partner. Starting April 1, 2014, you can earn or use MileagePlus miles across Azul's network, the third largest in Brazil.

Whether you're traveling to Brazil for business or pleasure, you can get there with MileagePlus and Azul. We'll look forward to serving you.

Special note: As previously announced, our partnership with TAM Airlines will end on March 30, 2014. As a result, after this date, MileagePlus members will be unable to earn and redeem miles for travel on TAM Airlines. Award tickets issued on or before March 30, 2014, will continue to be honored by TAM Airlines and are valid for one year from the original date of issue."
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2014, 07:01:10 PM
Its nice but I'm not sure how valuable it is.

I think their hub is VCP which does nothing for connections.
And you have to call to book.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yaalili on March 25, 2014, 07:18:08 PM
Its nice but I'm not sure how valuable it is.

I think their hub is VCP which does nothing for connections.
And you have to call to book.

Right my thoughts exactly, their hub is in VCP, a two hour drive north of SAO city area. Though they do have quite a large presence at GRU operated by their regional carrier Trip. At GIG they have close to nothing, being that they operate mostly from the domestic SDU. Now if united would start a flight from USA to VCP that would make things interesting..
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 25, 2014, 07:37:46 PM
Now if united would start a flight from USA to VCP that would make things interesting..
Never gonna happen, which is why this news isn't terribly exciting.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on March 26, 2014, 12:45:48 AM
I know i can probably be search, but i'm rushed as i need to book a last minute flight for tomorrow to be menachem avel a close friend, so the question is:
how quickly do Chase UR- United point transfers post?

Thank you so much!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mow on March 26, 2014, 12:49:07 AM

I know i can probably be search, but i'm rushed as i need to book a last minute flight for tomorrow to be menachem avel a close friend, so the question is:
how quickly do Chase UR- United point transfers post?

Thank you so much!
Right away
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on March 26, 2014, 12:49:58 AM
Right away
thank yo so much!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yitz on March 27, 2014, 11:57:51 AM
TLV - Newark had 2 flights canceled btwn yesterday and today caused a lot of problems. Anyone else have this issue. Were you able to find alternative?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on March 27, 2014, 12:18:02 PM
TLV - Newark had 2 flights canceled btwn yesterday and today caused a lot of problems. Anyone else have this issue. Were you able to find alternative?

That would explain why there is almost nothing available tonight in economy on UA, US, or El Al.

Why were they cancelled?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yitz on March 27, 2014, 12:27:00 PM
Something that the connecting flight was delayed. I even got a confirmed seat on a flight that was leaving earlier and he would be going economy. He pleaded with them to let him on and they said no. I called united and they could not believe that a passenger with a confirmed seat was not given the seat. She tried calling Israel United and they would not answer the phone.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yaalili on March 29, 2014, 09:56:39 PM
Anyone know how to get around the $75 close-in booking fee? Or, are there any other points that i could use to book a united one-way award without paying a close-in fee? Flight tomorrow morning, need to know asap please!!! Tks so much.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: YakovT on March 29, 2014, 10:24:53 PM
trying to book iah-fra-bkk-mel (around the world due to date line) but only want to pay 40k UA like it would be if i flew direct lax-mel. their saying its costing 57k (or 57.5k) because the 40k doesn't include passing south asia or something. basically their adding 17500k for the bkk-mel flight. how do i get it for 40k?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avadah on March 29, 2014, 10:45:39 PM
My carry on is 14 and 1/4 inches wide. United policy is 14. Will that quarter inch be a problem? Do they make everyone put their carry ons in the sizer?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on March 29, 2014, 10:48:06 PM
The sizer is an extra inch in all directions.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avadah on March 29, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
Thanx!
Can you answer this?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=5115.msg776479#msg776479
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on March 30, 2014, 05:58:23 AM
TLV - Newark had 2 flights canceled btwn yesterday and today caused a lot of problems. Anyone else have this issue. Were you able to find alternative?
Its Crazy. I heard so many people are having issues with UA the past week and today as well...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Andrewl987 on March 30, 2014, 02:58:32 PM
I have been playing around with taking advantage of the stop-over rule with booking UA awards. I am going to Sydney at the end of summer (BOS-SYD-BOS)... so far it seems like i can book BOS-SYD-BOS-SAN (with 80 day stop over in BOS before SAN flight) for 80k miles + $124  8) . I've been trying to get greedy and have the last segment be HNL or somewhere tropical, but it seems like the rules only allow for mainland domestic add on. Since the last segment is 'free' (same overall price as the normal RT), might as well take advantage.

I'm excited about using this trick i learned from reading dansdeals!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on March 30, 2014, 04:41:08 PM
Add HNL for 15K more. Cheaper than the ordinary price.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on March 30, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Has anyone had any luck in having United let them pay the old difference in fare to switch from Business to First?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on March 30, 2014, 07:43:21 PM
Has anyone had any luck in having United let them pay the old difference in fare to switch from Business to First?
You tried online?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on March 30, 2014, 07:45:21 PM
You tried online?

Haven't tried yet as First hasn't opened up yet. Just hoping for the best.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on March 30, 2014, 07:50:51 PM
Haven't tried yet as First hasn't opened up yet. Just hoping for the best.
Try a route that F is open.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on March 30, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
Try a route that F is open.
 

 A completely different route? The flight is in June. The only day that may have availability in First is tonight or tomorrow. I'll check to see what happens then.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on March 31, 2014, 10:01:41 AM
I have a Plan B booked for my wife and myself, scheduled to leave FCO on Friday.  There's no guarantee we get the seats, obviously, but right now it looks like there are 20+ seats still available in United Business/First.  Is there any way to request a kosher meal in advance of this flight, or is it impossible to do so since we don't yet have seats officially booked?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @jack123 on March 31, 2014, 10:46:26 AM
How can u see there's 20+ seats? Just curious
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: adam0619 on March 31, 2014, 05:45:19 PM
How can u see there's 20+ seats? Just curious

You're right, I don't actually know that there are 20+, but expertflyer shows 9+, and the seat map on United shows almost 30 still available, so...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: BaseballFan on April 03, 2014, 05:40:21 PM
Can someone please answer recent posts in the archive:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/40712 

I have the same question on cancelling a pre-deval flight now and rebooking it this fall.  I have two one-ways for myself and my spouse (4 tickets roundtrip) and would like to rebook into 2 roundtrips and a stopover.  Wondering how to do that without redepositing the miles.  Thought about the paypal or DoNotTrackMe tricks to hold them and then calling in to book.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 06, 2014, 07:47:22 AM
For past week trying to find business award seats on LH FRA OR MUC to jfk -- in Sept onward --none! -- in past LH was released for biz 6 months out

also  Swiss Air   Business ZRH - JFK  was released way in advance , 11 months or so ---- none now

anyone know if now LH- biz is treated as same way as first class , none till  14days out

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 06, 2014, 08:08:40 AM
For past week trying to find business award seats on LH FRA OR MUC to jfk -- in Sept onward --none! -- in past LH was released for biz 6 months out

also  Swiss Air   Business ZRH - JFK  was released way in advance , 11 months or so ---- none now

anyone know if now LH- biz is treated as same way as first class , none till  14days out
In Jan, I booked EWR-FRA-MUC-TLV on LH for a trip coming up in June.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on April 06, 2014, 08:09:28 AM
Lately availability is scarce in general for all flights I've been looking it. :/
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 06, 2014, 08:19:27 AM
In Jan, I booked EWR-FRA-MUC-TLV on LH for a trip coming up in June.


i booked also in jan and feb --- now if try to book SEPT onward "0" biz on lh on "any" day Germany- USA
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 06, 2014, 09:44:32 AM
For past week trying to find business award seats on LH FRA OR MUC to jfk -- in Sept onward --none! -- in past LH was released for biz 6 months out

also  Swiss Air   Business ZRH - JFK  was released way in advance , 11 months or so ---- none now

anyone know if now LH- biz is treated as same way as first class , none till  14days out
Clearly not. It's tougher than before but they still release.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 06, 2014, 10:01:23 AM
Availability 6 months out for LH is gone. LX has been tough for years. 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 06, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
Clearly not. It's tougher than before but they still release.


PLEASE give me the  flights that you see going from any place in Germany to USA starting in month of Sept --- only with LH -- as i see none

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on April 06, 2014, 10:09:58 AM
Availability 6 months out for LH is gone. LX has been tough for years. 
Yup. Lucky has reported this already. We'll see what happens. Here's  hoping it doesn't go the way of LH F space
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on April 06, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
Even North American flights have way less availability than they used to IME.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 06, 2014, 10:17:31 AM
Availability 6 months out for LH is gone. LX has been tough for years.

 yes LX was never easy -- but-- if you were able to plan your needs about 10 months out , could find with not much trouble BIZ ZRH-USA

This yr I did Zrh -MIA FOR FEB AND EVEN CHANGED DATES --- ALSO -- I am on DEC -- ZRH -MIA---- all biz
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 06, 2014, 10:23:24 AM
You would think that with the increase now to 70k for biz, you would not need too worry about biz disappearing completely  -- I think now UA cost more for Europe-USA than anyone else except Delta --

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 06, 2014, 10:48:51 AM
Unfortunately, the price going to 70K only affects one part of the equation: demand.

The other part, supply, is strictly governed by the partner's inventory management dept. Nothing to do with UA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 06, 2014, 11:13:59 AM
Yes-- but in many  things if you pay more- get more--  I assume UA now pays more for each seat that LH releases -- only problem with that -- LH is not releasing any seats --- and they could say even 5k for business , but no availability so price does not matter in this case

I was thinking/  maybe hoping that LH  has gone to a shorter release date like 3-4 months rather than -none!

time will tell !
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 06, 2014, 11:49:41 AM

PLEASE give me the  flights that you see going from any place in Germany to USA starting in month of Sept --- only with LH -- as i see none
All I said was that it's not the case as LH F. I booked for someone a ticket on LH J for about 5 weeks from now.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shimbo on April 08, 2014, 01:42:39 PM
I need to book a ticket for Pesach, would like to avoid the $75 close in fee x3 ppl.
Anyone with a club card or premier status that wouldn't mind booking for me (I will transfer the miles from chase into their account) please PM, would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 13, 2014, 10:16:33 PM
Can you get a stopover of <24 hours to count as a free stopover when your origin and destination are the same? i.e. EWR-MIA-EWR and you're in MIA for <24 hours.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on April 13, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
No. Domestic stop overs are only 4 hours anyways
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 13, 2014, 10:29:06 PM
No. Domestic stop overs are only 4 hours anyways
Got it, thanks!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 13, 2014, 10:41:04 PM
Can you get a stopover of <24 hours to count as a free stopover when your origin and destination are the same? i.e. EWR-MIA-EWR and you're in MIA for <24 hours.
MIA is your destination, not stopover. You can stay there for as long as you want.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on April 13, 2014, 11:21:56 PM
Can someone help me find Saver Award Business for MIA-EWR 4/27? (Is it not available or I don't know where to look)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: lubaby on April 13, 2014, 11:25:18 PM
Can someone help me find Saver Award Business for MIA-EWR 4/27? (Is it not available or I don't know where to look)
Doesn't look like there's any available.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 13, 2014, 11:29:06 PM
Can someone help me find Saver Award Business for MIA-EWR 4/27? (Is it not available or I don't know where to look)
Doesn't look like there's any available.
And it's a waste of miles.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 13, 2014, 11:43:38 PM
Can someone help me find Saver Award Business for MIA-EWR 4/27? (Is it not available or I don't know where to look)
The last flight out from FLL or PBI usually opens last minute if you're willing to wait.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on April 13, 2014, 11:43:40 PM
And it's a waste of miles.
I have enough to blow :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 13, 2014, 11:47:47 PM
I have enough to blow :P
So you might wanna wait until you get closer to the flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 13, 2014, 11:48:02 PM
And it's a waste of miles.
17k LH...

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 14, 2014, 12:59:20 PM
Anyone have any known workarounds for the following situation?

Saver award available for a flight USA-EU, but nothing available for the domestic feeder flight. I don't want the US-EU flight to go away, but still uncertain as to how to get to that flight. Trying to think of ideas but keep coming up short.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 14, 2014, 01:55:52 PM
Anyone have any known workarounds for the following situation?

Saver award available for a flight USA-EU, but nothing available for the domestic feeder flight. I don't want the US-EU flight to go away, but still uncertain as to how to get to that flight. Trying to think of ideas but keep coming up short.
Book the domestic flight as standard and the INTL flight as saver separately and combine them online.
Or book the intl part and wait on the domestic to become available.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 14, 2014, 03:21:17 PM
Book the domestic flight as standard and the INTL flight as saver separately and combine them online.
Or book the intl part and wait on the domestic to become available.

1: wouldn't that just be me paying more for the same award that otherwise would cost a lower mileage amount?

2: can i add the domestic on it since it would change the O/D, without a change fee since I am not elite?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 14, 2014, 03:43:20 PM
Just wonder what happens when doing option 1 and  later on when Saver award bacomes available, you cancel without redepositing the miles and you rebook for the saver award, will they allow you to do that? meaning they should credit you back the other 25k..

LAX there is no Avios availability?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 14, 2014, 04:19:51 PM
Just wonder what happens when doing option 1 and  later on when Saver award bacomes available, you cancel without redepositing the miles and you rebook for the saver award, will they allow you to do that? meaning they should credit you back the other 25k..

LAX there is no Avios availability?

None. Availability is so tight these days I am finding across both OW and *A for the flights I have been looking at.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: faraday on April 16, 2014, 06:21:52 PM
i need help! i bought a united miles flight but the flight was with aegean airlines, a star alliance airline. it said on my united account that i was entitled to a free bag but at the airport they charged me. i am trying to work this out before my return flight on the 20th. i have called united five timed and aegean twice and i get different responses every time. if it says on my united account and everywhere i have my flight information that i have a free bag, am i entitled to it? or is there some fine print i am missing????
thank you!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 17, 2014, 12:14:47 AM
Can you get a <24 hour free stopover on a OW intl flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on April 17, 2014, 12:23:56 AM
Sure
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 17, 2014, 12:54:46 AM
Sure
Great. DROPR. And then HUCA. Got it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 17, 2014, 01:52:16 AM
PSA The "Have United Call Me" option leads to the web support desk.

I found that they can book a ticket, but don't know everything about booking (such as the free stopover I just mentioned upthread) and one rep was very rude (hung up on me) and unhelpful. On my 2nd HUCA, I just asked to be transferred straight to a booking agent, who gladly booked my free stopover and waived the phone booking fee.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 17, 2014, 10:08:07 AM
PSA The "Have United Call Me" option leads to the web support desk.

I found that they can book a ticket, but don't know everything about booking (such as the free stopover I just mentioned upthread) and one rep was very rude (hung up on me) and unhelpful. On my 2nd HUCA, I just asked to be transferred straight to a booking agent, who gladly booked my free stopover and waived the phone booking fee.

I once had the web support agent tell me that JFK/EWR is an open-jaw
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 17, 2014, 10:14:10 AM
I once had the web support agent tell me that JFK/EWR is an open-jaw
lol
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on April 18, 2014, 01:27:41 AM
Can I reserve a EWR-BRU on Jet Airways and connect to TLV on Brussels Airlines on the same ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 18, 2014, 10:14:29 AM
Can I reserve a EWR-BRU on Jet Airways and connect to TLV on Brussels Airlines on the same ticket?
Why not?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on April 18, 2014, 12:37:53 PM
Why not?
I thought maybe because Jet is not a Stat Alliance member.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: nocknock on April 20, 2014, 02:15:40 AM
You can't reserve anymore by Unitet when you buy with miles? (if you don't have eniugh milage in your acct)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 20, 2014, 07:14:10 AM
can i book in one itinerary for me and my wife one ticket with miles and one with paid on the same flight?
(would like to do that since i'm a *A silver and i would like to get us both premier access)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on April 20, 2014, 08:04:07 AM
can i book in one itinerary for me and my wife one ticket with miles and one with paid on the same flight?
(would like to do that since i'm a *A silver and i would like to get us both premier access)

Are you going to be traveling with her? They can just link both itineraries after. But to answer your question, I don't know, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 20, 2014, 08:27:21 AM
Are you going to be traveling with her? They can just link both itineraries after. But to answer your question, I don't know, but I doubt it.
i am traveling with her but linking it together does not help i have tried and it did not make her premier access
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: nocknock on April 20, 2014, 08:54:35 AM
PLEASE

Is there anyway to make a reservation with miles when you don't have enough in your acct?????
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on April 20, 2014, 09:02:48 AM
PLEASE

Is there anyway to make a reservation with miles when you don't have enough in your acct?????
Are you waiting for miles to post?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on April 20, 2014, 09:04:19 AM
PLEASE

Is there anyway to make a reservation with miles when you don't have enough in your acct?????

How are you getting them in your account? Transfer, flown flight miles pending, etc? How are they coming to your account?

If you PUTPAC and explain your situation then they possibly can put a ticket on hold if they are pending or will come in soon
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 20, 2014, 09:45:59 AM
Try checking out via paypal and they will hold it for about 24 hours.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 20, 2014, 12:00:03 PM
Try checking out via paypal and they will hold it for about 24 hours.

IIRC its long dead
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MilesNpoints on April 20, 2014, 12:55:50 PM
IIRC its long dead

Incorrect - it works fine.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Lazegotit on April 22, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
Not sure this is the right spot to post, but anyone have an idea what United points go for? I have 140k and I'm looking to sell...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avrumy22 on April 22, 2014, 10:55:21 PM
I am looking for a flight to israel and found for May 25th for 42k miles plus $24. is this a good deal?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on April 23, 2014, 01:00:22 AM
Is there anyway for me to get the $100 change fee waived?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 23, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
I saw this tweet 457684650257678336[/tweet]] (http://[tweet)[/url]
Thinking if I will be able to pull off the same, upgrading 2 from I to O Class.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2014, 04:11:22 PM
Good morning?
http://dansdeals.com/archives/40712
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 23, 2014, 05:36:34 PM
One of my concerns is that the was a schedule change of 10 minutes, and now the receipt show that I paid 240,000 for 2 awards, when in realty I paid 120,000 for 2 awards (2 one-ways, 60,000 each), and when I press on change flights, its errors right out, and tells me to call United.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2014, 05:38:08 PM
Do a cancel without redeposit.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 23, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
Feeder flight doesn't have space.

and the more tricky part, the LH segment which I want to upgrade from I to O is 4 weeks out, United showing availability, and ANA confirms it

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
So find another feeder.
If ANA has it then it should be fine.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 23, 2014, 05:58:28 PM
How much does it cost to change a stopover NYC-LHR-NYC-LAX, I wanna change the NYC-LAX leg too a few days later.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2014, 06:10:02 PM
How much does it cost to change a stopover NYC-LHR-NYC-LAX, I wanna change the NYC-LAX leg too a few days later.

(http://i.gyazo.com/c5d6d97f6ecc5eefc71c4de9de0a12d2.png)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yaalili on April 23, 2014, 10:51:27 PM
Never gonna happen, which is why this news isn't terribly exciting.

Well looks like the opposite might happen - http://boardingarea.com/ghettoife/2014/04/23/azul-goes-for-long-haul-expansion/ ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 23, 2014, 10:56:03 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/c5d6d97f6ecc5eefc71c4de9de0a12d2.png)
So if I have let's say NYC-LHR-NYC will adding LAX later on (when it becomes available....) cost me 75/100 dollars?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 24, 2014, 01:46:19 PM
Called in, and the agent quoted me 10k miles per person, so i said go ahead.
Then she came back to say it cant be done, and meanwhile i lost my business seats on LH, and she put me on the United flight 5 hours prior to EWR instead of JFK, no i'm screwed...

ETA - Got the LH I class back, but now there is a bunch of remarks on the record to charge the full amount
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 24, 2014, 02:22:19 PM
Called in, and the agent quoted me 10k miles per person, so i said go ahead.
Then she came back to say it cant be done, and meanwhile i lost my business seats on LH, and she put me on the United flight 5 hours prior to EWR instead of JFK, no i'm screwed...

ETA - Got the LH I class back, but now there is a bunch of remarks on the record to charge the full amount

After its was put back, i was able to go thru the online change process which needed 15k miles but it errored out after the payment page, and now I can't even access the change flights page
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Million Miler on April 24, 2014, 02:29:57 PM
Has anyone confirmed whether you can still get the old rates even if you need to call to rebook? (ie error message)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 24, 2014, 02:58:28 PM
Has anyone confirmed whether you can still get the old rates even if you need to call to rebook? (ie error message)


Tried already a few times
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2014, 03:17:02 PM
Has anyone confirmed whether you can still get the old rates even if you need to call to rebook? (ie error message)

Yes, should be. I've done it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 24, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
Yes, should be. I've done it.


Call #6 now, still can't process it
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 24, 2014, 03:57:51 PM

Call #6 now, still can't process it


This was it, got it done, without the $75 change fee, just difference in tax, of the grand amount of .60 cents...

ADD - They stored the fare as 75,000 miles (the old first rate), but only charged it once, so now i have 2 first class tickets, each 37,000 miles, change fee was 60 cents...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 24, 2014, 06:21:44 PM
I'm currently holding flights on LH but don't like the times, but nothing else is open yet. Afraid I will be stuck only within 21 days of departure to get better flight times - no way around the change fees it seems for this non-statused UA flier I take it.

Have to make a decision soon  :-\
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2014, 07:01:57 PM

This was it, got it done, without the $75 change fee, just difference in tax, of the grand amount of .60 cents...

ADD - They stored the fare as 75,000 miles (the old first rate), but only charged it once, so now i have 2 first class tickets, each 37,000 miles, change fee was 60 cents...

Whine, whine, whine... jackpot.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 24, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
Whine, whine, whine... jackpot.

They can still review it...

Me, in my position, I (need) to review all tickets issued the day prior and to fix all mistakes, so ime they work the same way
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2014, 08:07:12 PM
They can still review it...

Me, in my position, I (need) to review all tickets issued the day prior and to fix all mistakes, so ime they work the same way

Likelihood of that is about... .01%.

But congrats :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 24, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
What does the note about the stop in Osaka mean? To fill up with fuel?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 24, 2014, 09:06:58 PM
What does the note about the stop in Osaka mean? To fill up with fuel?

They have a flight that goes via Osaka, its not a 5th, but they sell it to Osaka and Tokyo
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 24, 2014, 10:30:42 PM
They have a flight that goes via Osaka, its not a 5th, but they sell it to Osaka and Tokyo
Can you please be more clear  :-[

Is it a simple stopover? So why isn't it in the itinerary?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on April 24, 2014, 10:53:29 PM
Has anyone ever gotten onto a flight that they were waitlisted for a savor award ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 25, 2014, 12:49:32 AM
I'm currently holding flights on LH but don't like the times, but nothing else is open yet. Afraid I will be stuck only within 21 days of departure to get better flight times - no way around the change fees it seems for this non-statused UA flier I take it.

Have to make a decision soon  :-\

My hold is going to expire tonight.  I can try to cancel the booking and immediately re-hold, but nervous the seats won't get put back into the system. Anyone with an idea?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 25, 2014, 02:32:50 AM
My hold is going to expire tonight.  I can try to cancel the booking and immediately re-hold, but nervous the seats won't get put back into the system. Anyone with an idea?

OK, so I cancelled and was able to re-hold. Seems like the system had my booking as being done on Friday (even though it is still Thursday in LA) so it is held until Saturday night at 11:59pm. Has this happened to anyone else before to confirm I am right in my hold?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Yaalili on April 25, 2014, 03:13:12 AM
Can you please be more clear  :-[

Is it a simple stopover? So why isn't it in the itinerary?

It is a stopover but they can't put it on the itin, cuz they can't sell that flight leg by itself. Similar to the direct Qantas flight from JFK to Australia, with time on the ground at LAX.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 25, 2014, 08:23:37 AM
It is a stopover but they can't put it on the itin, cuz they can't sell that flight leg by itself.
Why?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on April 25, 2014, 08:39:27 AM
Why?

Regarding the Qantas flight, supposedly a international carrier can't operate a domestic only ticket in the USA, so hence they can't sell a LAX-JFK ticket. But if a passenger was to fly SYD-LAX on Monday they can then take the LAX-JFK leg on Qantas on Thursday since they are on a intl ticket.

So maybe similar here. LH can't operate a domestic only ticket within Japan.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on April 25, 2014, 08:42:39 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 25, 2014, 09:08:42 AM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on April 25, 2014, 11:25:08 AM
$75 close in fee is charged twice for a roundtrip????

I see a $150 service charge on a roundtrip ticket I booked yesterday!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 25, 2014, 11:30:21 AM
$75 close in fee is charged twice for a roundtrip????

I see a $150 service charge on a roundtrip ticket I booked yesterday!
How many pax?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2014, 11:52:20 AM
Who pays close in fees?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 25, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
Who pays close in fees?

I thought the old method didn't work anymore.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2014, 12:08:27 PM
Works fine.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 25, 2014, 12:15:57 PM
Works fine.

Awesome! And thanks for the edit   ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on April 25, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
How many pax?

2 pax and it shows $150 service fee twice on the reciept
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 25, 2014, 12:17:57 PM
2 pax and it shows $150 service fee twice on the reciept
PUTPAC
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on April 25, 2014, 12:19:03 PM
Who pays close in fees?

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
Guess that means you never attended a DDS.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 25, 2014, 12:23:57 PM
Works fine.

So then my question is - is it worth waiting it out and into the 21 day to get a better flight time or stick with the one I have on hold since I will never know if something else will open up?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on April 25, 2014, 12:27:50 PM
Guess that means you never attended a DDS.

I did.... but for the life of me I cant recall how its done.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
So then my question is - is it worth waiting it out and into the 21 day to get a better flight time or stick with the one I have on hold since I will never know if something else will open up?
YMMV :)

I did.... but for the life of me I cant recall how its done.
Did you take notes?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 25, 2014, 12:41:05 PM
YMMV :)

Nothing truer than that... I hate crunch time decisions.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on April 25, 2014, 02:35:35 PM
PUTPAC

I called and got the complete charge refunded. I guess I don't pay close-in fees after all.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on April 27, 2014, 07:29:56 AM
Guess that means you never attended a DDS.
I know that you've done this many times already but I'm sure you'll get a crowd for another one in the tri-state area.
I'm all in!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: DrDanny on April 27, 2014, 09:32:42 AM
I cancelled without redepositing before the Devaluation... Can I add another person to my reservation without triggering a reprice?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 27, 2014, 09:39:48 AM
I cancelled without redepositing before the Devaluation... Can I add another person to my reservation without triggering a reprice?
Doubtful but with enough HUCA, you probably can.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 27, 2014, 05:08:07 PM
Am I able to book a award flight  with my united miles to buy a flight that the main operator is swiss and then a segment from Zurich to TLV would be operated with elal?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 27, 2014, 05:11:13 PM
Am I able to book a award flight  with my united miles to buy a flight that the main operator is swiss and then a segment from Zurich to TLV would be operated with elal?
Only the NY-ZRU leg can be booked with UA miles.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 27, 2014, 09:17:41 PM
Only the NY-ZRU leg can be booked with UA miles.
so I can't buy it as 1 ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 27, 2014, 09:31:29 PM
so I can't buy it as 1 ticket?
Not with miles.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 27, 2014, 09:42:14 PM
Thank you. And is there a way to connect them after I buy them each separately?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 27, 2014, 09:43:51 PM
Thank you. And is there a way to connect them after I buy them each separately?
Not really. Though you can arrange at the airport for the bags to go all the way through if the 2 airlines have a baggage agreement.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: fradl on April 29, 2014, 10:37:35 PM
Hey guys, I thought I would throw my question out to those in the know:

I have 4 award tickets in June, from ewr to tlv and back, which I may need to cancel.  The ticket back  is from tlv to yyz (toronto) and then yyz to ewr.  I just checked my reservation and see that they changed the times of yyz to ewr leg.(They did not send me any email regarding this. I just happened to check, which is annoying)  I was supposed to have a 2 1/2 hour stop between flights and now it was changed to only 1 hour and 20 minutes.  Can I call them and ask for them to cancel the ticket, because I am worried that it is not enough time to connect and I dont want to be stuck in yyz overnight.  This would save me on a redeposit fee for canceling on my own. Do I have a right to ask for a redeposit because of my not being comfortable with this change? Any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 10:40:44 PM
Hey guys, I thought I would throw my question out to those in the know:

I have 4 award tickets in June, from ewr to tlv and back, which I may need to cancel.  The ticket back  is from tlv to yyz (toronto) and then yyz to ewr.  I just checked my reservation and see that they changed the times of yyz to ewr leg.(They did not send me any email regarding this. I just happened to check, which is annoying)  I was supposed to have a 2 1/2 hour stop between flights and now it was changed to only 1 hour and 20 minutes.  Can I call them and ask for them to cancel the ticket, because I am worried that it is not enough time to connect and I dont want to be stuck in yyz overnight.  This would save me on a redeposit fee for canceling on my own. Do I have a right to ask for a redeposit because of my not being comfortable with this change? Any advice would be appreciated.
Can't hurt to try. BTW are these biz saver by any chance?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: fradl on April 29, 2014, 10:48:35 PM
no they are economy
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 29, 2014, 10:53:08 PM
no they are economy
Too bad. Would be nice to have 4 tickets come back into the pool. Good luck.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: joelr773 on April 29, 2014, 11:08:57 PM
There us such a thing as a legal transfer as long they consider that is a legal transfer I doubt they would let u cancel without the penalties but doesn't hurt to give it a shot
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on April 30, 2014, 12:08:34 AM
Hey guys, I thought I would throw my question out to those in the know:

I have 4 award tickets in June, from ewr to tlv and back, which I may need to cancel.  The ticket back  is from tlv to yyz (toronto) and then yyz to ewr.  I just checked my reservation and see that they changed the times of yyz to ewr leg.(They did not send me any email regarding this. I just happened to check, which is annoying)  I was supposed to have a 2 1/2 hour stop between flights and now it was changed to only 1 hour and 20 minutes.  Can I call them and ask for them to cancel the ticket, because I am worried that it is not enough time to connect and I dont want to be stuck in yyz overnight.  This would save me on a redeposit fee for canceling on my own. Do I have a right to ask for a redeposit because of my not being comfortable with this change? Any advice would be appreciated.
Call and say you don't feel comfortable with your new connection time.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on April 30, 2014, 08:11:56 AM
Call and say you don't feel comfortable with your new connection time.
+1
You are at the minimum, you shouldn't have an issue getting what you want after a couple HUCA's.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on April 30, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
There us such a thing as a legal transfer as long they consider that is a legal transfer I doubt they would let u cancel without the penalties but doesn't hurt to give it a shot
Can't you say that you were planning on meeting someone in the airport and now you won't have enough time?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 30, 2014, 10:15:03 AM
Can't you say that you were planning on meeting someone in the airport and now you won't have enough time?
Don't say that. Say what people told you before.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 30, 2014, 11:30:53 AM
Don't say that. Say what people told you before.

Why not?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on April 30, 2014, 11:56:45 AM
Don't say that. Say what people told you before.
I meant in addition to the other suggestions, not instead.

Why not?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 01:04:15 PM
Does anyone know the change rules/fees by heart? Would love to put them in a wiki.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 30, 2014, 01:17:40 PM
Does anyone know the change rules/fees by heart? Would love to put them in a wiki.

try this

 http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/ticketing.aspx
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 30, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
I meant in addition to the other suggestions, not instead.

Why not?
When you say you have to meet someone, they don't owe you anything and they will ask you for a fee.

When you just tell them that that you booked the flight with the 2 hour connection because you're not comfortable with a short connection, you might have luck. You may wanna HUCA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 01:26:54 PM
try this

 http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/travel/ticketing.aspx
Ha thanks. Guess I'm that lazy. Added to wiki :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on April 30, 2014, 01:30:32 PM
Ha thanks. Guess I'm that lazy. Added to wiki :)

why not!! it is only a click away and up to date

LOL! when u said --anyone know by heart  :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 01:32:25 PM
Heh, now here's a Q how in the world does anyone here have valuable status with UA? Do people actually pay for flights sometimes? ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 30, 2014, 03:21:59 PM
Heh, now here's a Q how in the world does anyone here have valuable status with UA? Do people actually pay for flights sometimes? ;)
if not that I met my wife too late to add on all her flights into her FF acount by now she would be past gold
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 03:32:27 PM
if not that I met my wife too late to add on all her flights into her FF acount by now she would be past gold
Does she open cards/fly for free or pay for her tickets?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 30, 2014, 03:49:03 PM
Does she open cards/fly for free or pay for her tickets?
paid until now. And sometimes we still pay since we fly a lot and we are still building her credit.
ETA: I think the idea is that someone like us that has family in places that we have to fly to and we fly around 8 times a year we will end up paying for some flights
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on April 30, 2014, 04:24:21 PM
paid until now. And sometimes we still pay since we fly a lot and we are still building her credit.
ETA: I think the idea is that someone like us that has family in places that we have to fly to and we fly around 8 times a year we will end up paying for some flights
Depends how many miles you have. I'm more curious about the guys here that have 6 figures in the big programs on a consistent basis, yet also have status with every airline. Leads me to people there's shtick to getting certain statuses and would love to know more. :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on April 30, 2014, 05:30:57 PM
Depends how many miles you have. I'm more curious about the guys here that have 6 figures in the big programs on a consistent basis, yet also have status with every airline. Leads me to people there's shtick to getting certain statuses and would love to know more. :)
well there is status matches so for example I'm gonna be Aegean gold soon hopefully then I will get Turkish gold through a status match and I don't remember the order but it goes from one airline to the next giving you gold so if they paid for a few flights and did milage run on some price mistakes or on very low priced advanced routing you can get statuses very quick.
Also Dan has had some status deals in the past that give you a life platinum status for around 1500$ if I remember right
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on April 30, 2014, 07:50:10 PM
JFK > FRA  LH F A380 is FULLY available and open  for awards May 6th 2014 on ual.com  just got confirmed on my first  time A380 and First time  LH F JFK FRA. ;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2014, 07:54:09 PM
Why would you want A380 over 747?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 30, 2014, 07:56:41 PM
Why would you want A380 over 747?

+1, even tho Lucky disagrees.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on April 30, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
Why would you want A380 over 747?

Because I'm riding the 747-400 FRA>HND  at 6:20PM the following day and I want to try out  both LH F products. If anyone needs a ride in a Porsche on May 7th from FRA > Worms Rashi shul in a porsche  Message me.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 30, 2014, 08:02:53 PM
Because I'm riding the 747-400 FRA>HND  at 6:20PM the same day and I want to try out  both LH F products. If anyone needs a ride in a Porsche on May 7th from FRA > Worms Rashi shul in a porsche  Message me.

Good answer :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2014, 08:12:12 PM
Go for SQ A380 in R and forget LH...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ual902 on April 30, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
Go for SQ A380 in R and forget LH...

Dan,

 I started my MR transfer to SQ KF for the way back SIN-Europe-USA, just FYI SQ R allows stopovers in Europe even on One ways, that's what the SQ KF agent told me,  you can fly A380 SIN>ZRH, CDG or LHR STOP FRA>JFK, I'm working on it,  there were several SIN-CDG R available and open  FRA-JFK R also several open, I think it is SIN>FRA thats not easy to get.

 But hey, everyone was in the FCT except me, I don't want to be left out, so i'm checking it out for ua 67K  :D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on April 30, 2014, 08:25:50 PM
UA 67k, huh?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on April 30, 2014, 08:27:34 PM
SQ R> LH F + FCT.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 30, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
Not for me.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on April 30, 2014, 08:32:10 PM
Dan,

 I started my MR transfer to SQ KF for the way back SIN-Europe-USA, just FYI SQ R allows stopovers in Europe even on One ways, that's what the SQ KF agent told me,  you can fly A380 SIN>ZRH, CDG or LHR STOP FRA>JFK, I'm working on it,  there were several SIN-CDG R available and open  FRA-JFK R also several open, I think it is SIN>FRA thats not easy to get.

 But hey, everyone was in the FCT except me, I don't want to be left out, so i'm checking it out for ua 67K  :D

1) Cannot have a stopover with SQ on a one-way.
2) Nor can you have an OJ.
3) The only way you can fly SIN-LHR/CDG/ZRH-FRA-JFK is by using the partner chart, as SQ does not fly between LHR/CDG/ZRH and FRA, so you'd be paying more miles.

So the only way you're doing it is SIN-FRA-JFK.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MeirS on May 01, 2014, 08:46:43 AM
1) Cannot have a stopover with SQ on a one-way.
2) Nor can you have an OJ.
3) The only way you can fly SIN-LHR/CDG/ZRH-FRA-JFK is by using the partner chart, as SQ does not fly between LHR/CDG/ZRH and FRA, so you'd be paying more miles.

So the only way you're doing it is SIN-FRA-JFK.
Sounds like serious DROPR.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on May 01, 2014, 09:33:26 AM
Does anyone know if I can change my final destination after I've taken my first flight of an award itinerary? It'll be more then 21 days to the flight since I'll be in the city of my stopover for a while
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 01, 2014, 09:51:59 AM
Does anyone know if I can change my final destination after I've taken my first flight of an award itinerary? It'll be more then 21 days to the flight since I'll be in the city of my stopover for a while
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on May 01, 2014, 10:05:11 AM

Yes.
Is there a few or a certain amount of days I have to do it in?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 01, 2014, 10:09:14 AM
Is there a few or a certain amount of days I have to do it in?
No
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Cw3323 on May 01, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
I booked an award flight with a wrong year on the DOB what should I do? Do I need to call them or could I do it online
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 01, 2014, 11:58:35 AM
I booked an award flight with a wrong year on the DOB what should I do? Do I need to call them or could I do it online
Leave it. Doesn't matter.
Title: United award flights
Post by: Cw3323 on May 01, 2014, 12:05:14 PM
They wouldn't make me a problem that it doesn't match with the passport info? Should I even try to call them to change it ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on May 01, 2014, 01:05:06 PM
On United website On JFK -SFO-LAX flight May 8, 2014 one way there is Saveer award flight on business/first class; however it says mixed cabin on the JFK to SFO leg and when I hover over that it tells me business/first class sold out but when i click on view seats it seems there are seats available?  Will I able to secure a seat in business class or not on JFK-SFO leg?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 01, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
On United website On JFK -SFO-LAX flight May 8, 2014 one way there is Saveer award flight on business/first class; however it says mixed cabin on the JFK to SFO leg and when I hover over that it tells me business/first class sold out but when i click on view seats it seems there are seats available?  Will I able to secure a seat in business class or not on JFK-SFO leg?

It might show seats open but they aren't giving you the option to book it. If you chose it and it books into economy, you will only be able to chose economy seats.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 01, 2014, 01:08:59 PM
On United website On JFK -SFO-LAX flight May 8, 2014 one way there is Saveer award flight on business/first class; however it says mixed cabin on the JFK to SFO leg and when I hover over that it tells me business/first class sold out but when i click on view seats it seems there are seats available?  Will I able to secure a seat in business class or not on JFK-SFO leg?

Seat map is not necessarily indicative of loads.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on May 01, 2014, 01:25:02 PM
It might show seats open but they aren't giving you the option to book it. If you chose it and it books into economy, you will only be able to chose economy seats.

So I would end up using/burning enough points for business class but actually sit in an economy seat?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 01, 2014, 01:31:01 PM
So I would end up using/burning enough points for business class but actually sit in an economy seat?

As long as one leg is in business you would be paying the business price
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 01, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
But if Saver opens up for the other leg he will be able to upgrade, correct?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 01, 2014, 02:32:25 PM
But if Saver opens up for the other leg he will be able to upgrade, correct?

You will need to call up to have it changed. I don't know if they will charge him the change fee.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 01:45:05 AM
Help please!

I wanted to make a change to an award flight and it requires more miles, transferred from UR but the miles are not showing immediately. I checked the MP number and it is correct.  Is that because of a Sat night update? Is there anything I can do about it?

Afraid to lose the flights. thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 04, 2014, 01:49:16 AM
Help please!

I wanted to make a change to an award flight and it requires more miles, transferred from UR but the miles are not showing immediately. I checked the MP number and it is correct.  Is that because of a Sat night update? Is there anything I can do about it?

Afraid to lose the flights. thanks
Call UA and make a reservation on the flights you want and put it on hold. They should hold it for 5 days IINM. Not sure about the xfer issue.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 01:49:36 AM
Help please!

I wanted to make a change to an award flight and it requires more miles, transferred from UR but the miles are not showing immediately. I checked the MP number and it is correct.  Is that because of a Sat night update? Is there anything I can do about it?

Afraid to lose the flights. thanks
Just check out with PayPal and the flight will be on hold for 24 hours.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 04, 2014, 01:50:00 AM
Help please!

I wanted to make a change to an award flight and it requires more miles, transferred from UR but the miles are not showing immediately. I checked the MP number and it is correct.  Is that because of a Sat night update? Is there anything I can do about it?

Afraid to lose the flights. thanks

Did you try logging in and out of United
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 01:51:00 AM
Call UA and make a reservation on the flights you want and put it on hold. They should hold it for 5 days IINM. Not sure about the xfer issue.
-1. You can't put on hold with UA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 01:53:08 AM
Did you try logging in and out of United

Yes, many times, not showing
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 01:54:38 AM
Just check out with PayPal and the flight will be on hold for 24 hours.

It doesnt let me continue without buying or transferring miles.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 01:54:46 AM
Yes, many times, not showing
Try calling up Chase. I've had it once and they took care of it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 01:55:36 AM
It doesnt let me continue without buying or transferring miles.
How much miles does the flight require, and how much do you currently have?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 01:56:19 AM
Try calling up Chase. I've had it once and they took care of it.

they said there is no way to expedite, it could take 24-48 hours. what did they do for you?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 01:57:30 AM
How much miles does the flight require, and how much do you currently have?

its now 40k requires another 20 for biz. x2 people. have only a few thousand now.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 02:00:56 AM
its now 40k requires another 20 for biz. x2 people. have only a few thousand now.
UA operated flights?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 02:01:22 AM
ua lh
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 04, 2014, 02:16:44 AM
-1. You can't put on hold with UA.
My bad.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 02:23:35 AM
My bad.

no, you are right, they are holding it for me! just needed the right rep, thanks guys
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 02:24:19 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 04, 2014, 02:34:36 AM
no, you are right, they are holding it for me! just needed the right rep, thanks guys
Oh look at that, sweet!
ilherman, sorry but I have to...  :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 02:57:44 AM
NP  :D

Still, the official UA rule is that they don't hold, unlike AA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 04, 2014, 03:15:00 AM
NP  :D

Still, the official UA rule is that they don't hold, unlike AA.

The magic word.. I don't really think anything with UA is official
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 04, 2014, 03:27:03 AM
NP  :D

Still, the official UA rule is that they don't hold, unlike AA.
There are at least 3 ways to hold with UA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on May 04, 2014, 05:02:00 AM
I booked a ticket for pesach ORD-VIE-ORD and thru in a other leg to SFO for today @7am (free so why not).

1)Could I get miles for not flying this leg?

2)Could I push the flight for later?

ETA: I changed the ticket online. (Very ridiculous, almost no saver award!)
So that answered my second Q.



Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 09:37:58 AM
There are at least 3 ways to hold with UA.
Yes, I know that.

And non of them are calling in.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 04, 2014, 10:10:54 AM
Is it my imagination, or is there literally not one single award seat (economy or biz) available on UA direct EWR-TLV for the ENTIRE NEXT YEAR at Saver level?! >:(

It's one thing for them to cheap out, and have only a few scattered dates available... but I'm seeing literally nothing. It's like X and I class no longer exist. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on May 04, 2014, 10:44:28 AM
(Very ridiculous, almost no saver award!)


Is it my imagination, or is there literally not one single award seat (economy or biz) available on UA direct EWR-TLV for the ENTIRE NEXT YEAR at Saver level?! >:(

It's one thing for them to cheap out, and have only a few scattered dates available... but I'm seeing literally nothing. It's like X and I class no longer exist. Am I missing something?
#Unitedunfriendly
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 04, 2014, 10:49:20 AM
#Unitedunfriendly

No s***, Sherlock. >:(

Can whoever is able to, please lend me a hand and tweet United about the lack of award seats EWR-TLV? Maybe the power of lots of people complaining will get them to fix it...

#wishfulthinking :P
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 10:51:43 AM
the miles came in this morning, Sunday, from chase, i think most probably late sat night there is updating among alot of sites and it won't go through.

Also probably not good to apply for cc if you are expecting an immediate approval.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on May 04, 2014, 11:15:33 AM
I let go of two seats economy air yyz-tlv canada aug 6 day after tisha bav. it's on dreamliner.

 i can see them on ua. hopefully someone here can use it.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on May 04, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
No s***, Sherlock. >:(

Can whoever is able to, please lend me a hand and tweet United about the lack of award seats EWR-TLV? Maybe the power of lots of people complaining will get them to fix it...

#wishfulthinking :P
I tweeted for you! :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on May 04, 2014, 11:59:46 AM
#Unitedunfriendly

 with U A ---After Aug --- no biz  LH over the Atlantic

I think U A  is back to blocking!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 04, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
I tweeted for you! :)

Thanks.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Moishebatchy on May 04, 2014, 12:05:39 PM
with U A ---After Aug --- no biz  LH over the Atlantic

I think U A  is back to blocking!

Source?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 04, 2014, 12:10:50 PM
with U A ---After Aug --- no biz  LH over the Atlantic

I think U A  is back to blocking!
Did you check with AC or ANA?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on May 04, 2014, 12:14:09 PM
just go to UA site and try to book -- FRA OR MUC NONE STOP biz   to NY  after Aug 31 -- in past always easy to find "something" as long as did not try more than 6 months out

let me know if u see any
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on May 04, 2014, 12:16:44 PM
Did you check with AC or ANA?
[/quote

I do not belong to either --maybe u or someone else can check
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 04, 2014, 12:19:03 PM
just go to UA site and try to book -- FRA OR MUC NONE STOP biz   to NY  after Aug 31 -- in past always easy to find "something" as long as did not try more than 6 months out

let me know if u see any
It's old news that LH has been restricting TATL J space more than 6 months out.
Unlikely a UA thing which is why I asked if you searched AC or NH to verify.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on May 04, 2014, 12:24:07 PM
It's old news that LH has been restricting TATL J space more than 6 months out. THAT IS WHY  I SAID "as long as did not try more than 6 months out"

Unlikely a UA thing which is why I asked if you searched AC or NH to verify.
--  not sure what to wish for
a) a UA thing???
         or
b) a LH thing

either way it reduces the value to me of UA   
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 02:05:29 PM
He says it's a LH thing. You can confirm it by searching ANA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SPLP on May 04, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
He says it's a LH thing. You can confirm it by searching ANA.

tried ANA search  no LH  over Atlantic after Aug  biz class--assume it is  LH thing 

wonder why LH holding back, maybe with the increase UA did on awards -- LH sees UA as holding out on them  and it  wants it's share? and for now will only release a few days b4 flights if it is good for them --as it now does with first class

End results , with out LH BIZ over Atlantic and with LH serving more places in Europe  than any other star carrier it will create problems  PLUS devalue UA MILES MORE
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on May 04, 2014, 03:10:37 PM
Thanks.
They said they didn't open up the saver on any flights period for next year.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 04, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
They said they didn't open up the saver on any flights period for next year.
:o >:( The question is WHY

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on May 04, 2014, 11:42:47 PM

:o >:( The question is WHY
It sounded like not only EWR-TLV but all flights.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 05, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
It sounded like not only EWR-TLV but all flights.
:o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on May 05, 2014, 05:45:13 PM
If I confirm standard award flight EWR-TLV one way May 11 can i always switch if a saver award flight opens up for same route? what if same route but different date?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on May 06, 2014, 08:57:44 AM
If I confirm standard award flight EWR-TLV one way May 11 can i always switch if a saver award flight opens up for same route? what if same route but different date?

Can anybody assist please?  if saaver opens up last minute can i switch from standard without any fees?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 06, 2014, 09:04:52 AM
Can anybody assist please?  if saaver opens up last minute can i switch from standard without any fees?
I am not sure but I believe there is fees involved.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on May 06, 2014, 09:23:01 AM
I am not sure but I believe there is fees involved.

cant I cancel and then use miles for saaver award ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 06, 2014, 09:24:27 AM

cant I cancel and then use miles for saaver award ticket?

Yes but then there are still fees ainvolved. a.k.a. cancellation fees and booking
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: davidd75 on May 06, 2014, 09:31:46 AM
Yes but then there are still fees ainvolved. a.k.a. cancellation fees and booking

I have united club card so no booking fees?

any other ideas to be able to switch from standard to saver??
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 06, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
Any ways to avoid the $75 change fee? Like adding someone's 1K account to your (already booked) itinerary to get their benefits?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2014, 10:42:24 PM
Any ways to avoid the $75 change fee? Like adding someone's 1K account to your (already booked) itinerary to get their benefits?
Et tu?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 06, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
My wife and I have to travel in 6 weeks to Israel we have 91,000 miles on united account and 51,000 UR miles so it seems were gonna have to do it with united.
So now like this for the 29,000 miles left we have someone willing to transfer us 25,000 miles for free from their united account but they are saying it will cost us 375$ to do that is that true? Is there any way to avoid it?
If it is true is it better to just buy miles? How would I buy?
And last what's the best advice for the 5,000 miles we are still missing? Buy them?
I was thinking about opening a CC but I don't think I will be able to get the miles by then
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 06, 2014, 10:49:04 PM
Et tu?
Care to elaborate? In terms of trying to benefit from others? In terms of messing with the system?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 06, 2014, 11:15:23 PM
My wife and I have to travel in 6 weeks to Israel we have 91,000 miles on united account and 51,000 UR miles so it seems were gonna have to do it with united.
So now like this for the 29,000 miles left we have someone willing to transfer us 25,000 miles for free from their united account but they are saying it will cost us 375$ to do that is that true? Is there any way to avoid it?
If it is true is it better to just buy miles? How would I buy?
And last what's the best advice for the 5,000 miles we are still missing? Buy them?
I was thinking about opening a CC but I don't think I will be able to get the miles by then
Buy miles from a broker.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 06, 2014, 11:25:11 PM
Buy miles from a broker.
better than transferring?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 06, 2014, 11:27:44 PM
better than transferring?
It will cost $375....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ranhan429 on May 06, 2014, 11:52:41 PM
anyone have any experience with TLV -> MIA opening up (looking for end of June). Need Econ availability  June 25,26,27,28,29, or 30. Can't budge any earlier. Can budge later. it's not looking good...   :-\ Insights? Thanks people  8)!!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 06, 2014, 11:57:25 PM
Anyone know what Dan meant by this --
Et tu?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on May 07, 2014, 12:05:56 AM
Anyone know what Dan meant by this --
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=et%20tu%2C%20brute!  (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=et%20tu%2C%20brute!)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 07, 2014, 12:54:06 AM
Anyone with experience of space opening in I when there is a decent amount of R already available currently?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 07, 2014, 07:43:44 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=et%20tu%2C%20brute!  (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=et%20tu%2C%20brute!)
Yes, I know it's from Julius Caesar. I meant how was he using it?
From Urban Dic:
"meaning: and you too, Brutus?
to question a good friend's loyalty."
Either, Dan consider's me a good friend or he was saying that what I was doing was wrong, but I'd like to know why - assuming it's possible to add a 1K to your account in the first place.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ranhan429 on May 07, 2014, 08:51:18 PM
Pulled the trigger on an award flight before my UMPE card arrived... Meaning purchased the taxes/fees on PRG card. Do I still get the benefits when flying? Priority boarding, etc? Thanks for the help :D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 08, 2014, 12:36:53 AM
Anyone with experience of space opening in I when there is a decent amount of R already available currently?

No one with UA experience to help chime in here?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ZCN on May 08, 2014, 05:17:09 PM
I had a ticket in F from JFK to SYD, connecting in ICN that was ticketed before February 1, and I cancelled without redepositing the miles, following Dan's mehalach. I'm trying to re book the same same routing but the system will only allow me to book either the JFK-ICN or ICN-SYD segment. Any idea's on how to rebook and get both segments ticketed on one ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ranhan429 on May 08, 2014, 05:57:54 PM
this thread seems to be a pit of questions asked and no answers... just sayin;

I noticed that a NON-PHANTOM flight although on the calendar appears as a regular old "white" day with no saver stuff actually does have TWO saver economy flights. (I was able to select the flight). Sucks b/c already booked TLV-DC and purchased additional flight from DC - miami instead of TLV - MIA from united. Oh Well. hopefully you all can maybe catch this and not make the same mistake I did.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 08, 2014, 08:19:36 PM
Just wondering, how do you know that it was NOT-PHANTOM?

I am seeing it sometimes lately as well.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 08, 2014, 08:45:06 PM
this thread seems to be a pit of questions asked and no answers... just sayin;

I noticed that a NON-PHANTOM flight although on the calendar appears as a regular old "white" day with no saver stuff actually does have TWO saver economy flights. (I was able to select the flight). Sucks b/c already booked TLV-DC and purchased additional flight from DC - miami instead of TLV - MIA from united. Oh Well. hopefully you all can maybe catch this and not make the same mistake I did.
Nothing new. UA award calendar is known for that.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on May 08, 2014, 09:43:56 PM
Hi friends!
I booked a ticket ORD-VIE-ORD-SFO.
I flew already ORD-VIE-ORD.
Will i get miles back if i cancel the last leg?
I also see that i have a option of re-booking later within the next year, will i have to 100$ for it?
Thanks for your input!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 08, 2014, 09:59:11 PM
You won't get back any miles. Not sure how much the change fee would be. Check the UA website.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on May 08, 2014, 10:04:50 PM
You won't get back any miles.
Are you sure?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 08, 2014, 10:08:55 PM
Are you sure?

ROTFL.. Good luck..
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on May 08, 2014, 10:14:22 PM
ROTFL.. Good luck..
Is there even 1% chance that i will get it back?
Or is it a wast of time (and money) to even try?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 08, 2014, 10:21:41 PM
ROTFL.. Good luck..
+1,00000000 That's funny...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on May 08, 2014, 10:27:34 PM
On a serious note is there ANY chance i will get it back? 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 08, 2014, 10:28:58 PM
On a serious note is there 0.00001 chance i will get it back?
FTFY. Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: A European on May 08, 2014, 10:33:07 PM
FTFY. Yes.
Would you try it if you would have such a case?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 08, 2014, 10:34:31 PM
No.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on May 08, 2014, 11:20:56 PM
I just saw this message on an itinerary I have on hold. "This flight segment cannot be confirmed. Please contact United Reservations for assistance."  It is referring to a German Wings flight from LHR-TXL. Will I be able to complete the reservation online? What does that mean?

ETA they are unable to issue the ticket as German Wings is coming back as unavailable.  I have a confirmation number and they wont issue the ticket, anyone ever hear of that before?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 09, 2014, 09:40:03 AM
I have seen Dan posting about this but I don't remember where can I book a flight with united with miles and then cancel it if nessesary? What would happen to my miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on May 09, 2014, 09:41:58 AM
I have seen Dan posting about this but I don't remember where can I book a flight with united with miles and then cancel it if nessesary? What would happen to my miles?
You can pay to redeposit the miles and use them on any flights, or you can rebook the same flights later at the rate you paid.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on May 09, 2014, 09:46:51 AM
I found some flights on ANA that United doesn't show on their site, then called United but they claim they don't see availability for those flights. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 09, 2014, 11:15:38 AM
I found some flights on ANA that United doesn't show on their site, then called United but they claim they don't see availability for those flights. Does that make sense?
Which flights?
 
Tell them to check the internal system. Give them the flight number.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on May 09, 2014, 11:21:47 AM
Which flights?
 
Tell them to check the internal system. Give them the flight number.
I asked to them check Singapore, Brussels and Lufthansa and I gave them the flight numbers but she claims she doesn't see anything. What's the internal system and shouldn't they know about it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 09, 2014, 11:46:13 AM
I asked to them check Singapore, Brussels and Lufthansa and I gave them the flight numbers but she claims she doesn't see anything. What's the internal system and shouldn't they know about it?
Which flight are you talking about?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on May 09, 2014, 12:15:26 PM
Which flight are you talking about?
7/14 LON-BRU Brussels
7/14 BRU-NYC Jet
7/14 FRA-NYC Lufthansa
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on May 09, 2014, 01:54:01 PM
did united become a lot more stingy recently? i'v been looking at a few routes and nothing for weeks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 09, 2014, 03:28:03 PM
I think I made a huge mistake please someone tell me if I'm wrong I thought that united RT to TLV is 85,000 miles am I wrong? Is it 170,000 RT?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 03:30:45 PM
I think I made a huge mistake please someone tell me if I'm wrong I thought that united RT to TLV is 85,000 miles am I wrong? Is it 170,000 RT?

It is, in Economy. 170k is probably Standard rate. Make sure you are booking SAVER awards
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 09, 2014, 03:34:16 PM
It is, in Economy. 170k is probably Standard rate. Make sure you are booking SAVER awards
you right so is there anyway to get a saver if its not on their site? Such as calling them?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 03:34:47 PM
you right so is there anyway to get a saver if its not on their site? Such as calling them?

It if not showing up as saver, only standard then nope
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 09, 2014, 03:50:24 PM
It if not showing up as saver, only standard then nope
OK and if I know there is a AC flight available but its not showing up is there anyway to get it as a saver award?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 09, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
OK and if I know there is a AC flight available but its not showing up is there anyway to get it as a saver award?

PUTPAC
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 09, 2014, 03:59:04 PM
PUTPAC
tnx
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ranhan429 on May 09, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
Just wondering, how do you know that it was NOT-PHANTOM?

I am seeing it sometimes lately as well.

cuz in phantom flights I saw when I selected the flight it said "Sorry due to (whatever) this flight is no longer available" and I was able to select this flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: GAJ2303 on May 10, 2014, 10:01:50 PM
WSJ - The Best and Worst Airlines for Spending Frequent Flier Points.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304885404579548042629259758?mod=WSJ_article_EditorsPicks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sam28 on May 11, 2014, 12:02:55 AM
How long after booking with United points can u cancel with out any fee ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 11, 2014, 12:27:01 AM
How long after booking with United points can u cancel with out any fee ?
24 hrs.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on May 11, 2014, 02:51:10 AM
There's a flight that I've been tracking for weeks on united that shows saver availability for 1 pax, problem is that I need 2 seats,
Is there any way to convince united to open up another seat for me?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dudi on May 11, 2014, 06:32:15 AM
Spoke to united about a flight on June 10th Trying to get saver  they said they don't have for now but I should keep trying because they may open up.
Is that true or is it a load of crap?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on May 11, 2014, 06:58:29 AM
Spoke to united about a flight on June 10th Trying to get saver  they said they don't have for now but I should keep trying because they may open up.
Is that true or is it a load of crap?
United award availability changes all the time. More space definitely gets released as it gets closer to flight date.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 11, 2014, 07:49:18 AM
There's a flight that I've been tracking for weeks on united that shows saver availability for 1 pax, problem is that I need 2 seats,
Is there any way to convince united to open up another seat for me?
You can try taking or holding one seat and seeing if they release another one.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on May 12, 2014, 10:44:42 AM
How does this make sense?

80 K in BIZ and in FIRST

(http://i62.tinypic.com/28ceruf.png)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 12, 2014, 10:46:28 AM
How does this make sense?

80 K in BIZ and in FIRST

(http://i62.tinypic.com/28ceruf.png)
Yes. New award chart has a bunch of those.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on May 12, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
How does this make sense?

80 K in BIZ and in FIRST

(http://i62.tinypic.com/28ceruf.png)
Has been happening to me a lot lately too.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 12, 2014, 11:32:21 AM
How does this make sense?

80 K in BIZ and in FIRST

(http://i62.tinypic.com/28ceruf.png)

I believe bc by Biz it is giving you the award partner price since all classes are the same as Air Japan Business. But by first, its giving you the United award price because the United flights are in first and the Air Japan is in business so since it is "lower class" than the united flights it gives you the united award charge.

#my2cents

PS. If you call up, you can try to get them to change the business to unites award chart price. I had it done before on TLV-ORD where it said 80k (partner price) but I got them to give it to me for 70k (united price). ORD-TLV (LH J) TLV-ORD (UA J). If I would have chosen TLV-FRA in LH Y and FRA-ORD in UA J it would price out as 70k. Same as your example above.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: miles lover on May 13, 2014, 08:01:19 PM
How can I tell how many savior award seats there are left on a particular flight ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 13, 2014, 08:03:19 PM
How can I tell how many savior award seats there are left on a particular flight ?
Select 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 passengers and see..... If lets say when you search for 4 pax it is showing saver awards and when you're searching for 5 pax nothing is coming up, you have your answer.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2014, 08:04:11 PM
How can I tell how many savior award seats there are left on a particular flight ?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20512
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: miles lover on May 13, 2014, 08:10:12 PM
Thanx
The expert mode is a bit tough for me but were working on it 8)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: LAXtraveler on May 13, 2014, 08:10:53 PM
Select 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 passengers and see..... If lets say when you search for 4 pax it is showing saver awards and when you're searching for 5 pax nothing is coming up, you have your answer.

This may work, but is much more time consuming then just using expert mode, IMHO.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 13, 2014, 08:16:36 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=20512
Not everyone is a expert  ;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 13, 2014, 08:17:16 PM
This may work, but is much more time consuming then just using expert mode, IMHO.
Thanx
The expert mode is a bit tough for me but were working on it 8)
Not everyone is a expert  ;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: miles lover on May 13, 2014, 08:38:40 PM
Dan explains in a more simple way on the main site in the blog of united card benefits.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on May 15, 2014, 10:16:38 PM
Is it my imagination, or is there literally not one single award seat (economy or biz) available on UA direct EWR-TLV for the ENTIRE NEXT YEAR at Saver level?! >:(

It's one thing for them to cheap out, and have only a few scattered dates available... but I'm seeing literally nothing. It's like X and I class no longer exist. Am I missing something?
Miles is a Jewish thing, TLV is a Jewish thing. When two Jewish things clash - it's messy.

Why do you assume they don't release seats?? They do release but all grabbed quickly by the hunters.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: miles lover on May 15, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Miles is a Jewish thing, TLV is a Jewish thing. When two Jewish things clash - it's messy.

Why do you assume they don't release seats?? They do release but all grabbed quickly by the hunters.
there's NO WAY they release the same amount of savior award seats to tlv as to most other destinations.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SOS on May 18, 2014, 12:40:17 AM
i have been looking at different flights from nyc to europe for the summer (multiple cities), they all have different amount of taxes per flight,
i was checking today and a lot of them priced out btw $2.50 - $6.70 in taxes (they were usually in the $25 - 50 range)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 18, 2014, 12:43:50 AM
i have been looking at different flights from nyc to europe for the summer (multiple cities), they all have different amount of taxes per flight,
i was checking today and a lot of them priced out btw $2.50 - $6.70 in taxes (they were usually in the $25 - 50 range)
NYC to any destination will only be 2.50, if it includes a stopover in Europe then you'll pay more $25/50 European taxes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: SOS on May 18, 2014, 12:52:12 AM
on the return even a direct flight to ny has high taxes
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 18, 2014, 12:56:09 AM

on the return even a direct flight to ny has high taxes

Yup. Bc some airports charge a departure tax
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 19, 2014, 09:01:29 AM
Anyone know why these are pricing differently? Both overwater segments are UA metal, they should both be 70k.
(The mixed cabin is FRA-TLV in Y so that shouldn't matter in the pricing.)
(http://i.imgur.com/L2XT7tk.png)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 19, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Anyone know why these are pricing differently? Both overwater segments are UA metal, they should both be 70k.
(The mixed cabin is FRA-TLV in Y so that shouldn't matter in the pricing.)
(http://i.imgur.com/L2XT7tk.png)

Yes I do. It is similar to what i wrote about earlier in a different scenario.

I believe bc by Biz it is giving you the award partner price since all classes are the same as Air Japan Business. But by first, its giving you the United award price because the United flights are in first and the Air Japan is in business so since it is "lower class" than the united flights it gives you the united award charge.

#my2cents

PS. If you call up, you can try to get them to change the business to unites award chart price. I had it done before on TLV-ORD where it said 80k (partner price) but I got them to give it to me for 70k (united price). ORD-TLV (LH J) TLV-ORD (UA J). If I would have chosen TLV-FRA in LH Y and FRA-ORD in UA J it would price out as 70k. Same as your example above.

But in this case, bc for 70k the FRA-TLV is in Y - one class lower then the united flight so it's giving you the united award chart price. But for 80k since LH FRA-TLV is in J its giving you the award partner price because its in the same category.

IF you call, maybe play HUCA you would be able to convince someone to give both to you for 70k.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @jack123 on May 19, 2014, 01:31:08 PM
trying to book GRU-MEM via ORD. if GRU-ORD is available in F for 70k, but ORD-MEM is only available as standard coach award (25K), is there anyway to combing those two onto one reservation for less than 95K? United callback claims not, so i figured id check here before calling again.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 01:36:34 PM
Anyone know why these are pricing differently? Both overwater segments are UA metal, they should both be 70k.
(The mixed cabin is FRA-TLV in Y so that shouldn't matter in the pricing.)
(http://i.imgur.com/L2XT7tk.png)
Of course the FRA-TLV is what matters. If it's a class below the UA flight then it stays at the UA rate, if it's in the higher class then it's a partner award.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Ergel on May 19, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
trying to book GRU-MEM via ORD. if GRU-ORD is available in F for 70k, but ORD-MEM is only available as standard coach award (25K), is there anyway to combing those two onto one reservation for less than 95K? United callback claims not, so i figured id check here before calling again.
Of course not. Come on Jack. You should know better
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2014, 01:53:25 PM
Of course not. Come on Jack. You should know better

+1 ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on May 19, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
Can anyone explain this?

(http://s12.postimg.org/kptx3s94t/meshuga1.png)

vs.

(http://s28.postimg.org/ac4fm9xa5/meshuga2.png)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 19, 2014, 02:13:59 PM
Of course the FRA-TLV is what matters. If it's a class below the UA flight then it stays at the UA rate, if it's in the higher class then it's a partner award.
I was under the impression that the overwater segment is what determines the pricing and even if you have a connecting partner flight in the same class, you will still get the UA rate. Am I totally wrong or does that only apply to connecting partner flights in the same region?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2014, 02:17:06 PM
Can anyone explain this?


In first, the longer leg is in J, while in the second, the longer leg is in Y.

That explains why the first is more expensive, but that still doesn't explain the 25K pricing...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 02:21:11 PM
only apply to connecting partner flights in the same region
That.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2014, 02:21:32 PM
On a side note, what does it mean when UA offers a standard award on a partner?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 02:22:15 PM
In first, the longer leg is in J, while in the second, the longer leg is in Y.

That explains why the first is more expensive, but that still doesn't explain the 25K pricing...
Ask the better question, why is BKK-PNH in TG J 25K and not 30K?
Seems like that flight is pulling off the UA non partner chart, which explains the pricing above.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2014, 02:22:34 PM
On a side note, what does it mean when UA offers a standard award on a partner?
That a sucker is born every minute?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
In first, the longer leg is in J, while in the second, the longer leg is in Y.

That explains why the first is more expensive, but that still doesn't explain the 25K pricing...

Looks like it's pricing the second as a UA-metal J award. That's where the 25K comes from, though it makes no sense, because it's not UA metal.

ETA: Missed Dan's post above.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on May 19, 2014, 02:24:07 PM
In first, the longer leg is in J, while in the second, the longer leg is in Y.

That explains why the first is more expensive, but that still doesn't explain the 25K pricing...
I've yet to see any other route with something like this.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2014, 02:28:39 PM
That a sucker is born every minute?

Ha. What's this mean then:

Quote
Standard Awards on some partner airlines may have capacity controls and/or date restrictions.

It's as if they're implying Saver awards on partners do NOT have capacity controls.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on May 19, 2014, 02:30:04 PM
On a side note, what does it mean when UA offers a standard award on a partner?
More than that: the standard award doesn't mean they're actually releasing MORE seats on standard award level, you'll never see available standard award but not saver award.

So basically they give you the option to pay 50k or 25/30k.

#FreedomOfSpending
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @jack123 on May 19, 2014, 02:39:43 PM
Of course not. Come on Jack. You should know better

i figured, but hey you never know :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 19, 2014, 03:08:20 PM
More than that: the standard award doesn't mean they're actually releasing MORE seats on standard award level, you'll never see available standard award but not saver award.

So basically they give you the option to pay 50k or 25/30k.

#FreedomOfSpending
Here is how MMS is explaining it  ;)   And he makes sure Don’t Let United Trick You Into Paying More Miles for Standard Awards on Partner Airlines


Quote
Note that sometimes United will try to trick you into paying more miles (the Standard award rate) for Star Alliance flights.  But you should always book partner airlines (say, Lufthansa) at the Saver level (low level).

Don’t Let United Trick You Into Paying More Miles for Standard Awards on Partner Airlines (Lufthansa, US Air etc.)
United doesn’t really have access to last seat availability (which is why you pay more miles for a Standard award) for their partner airlines.  They just have access to last seat award availability on their own flights.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on May 19, 2014, 06:07:11 PM
I made an economy class award reservation with United on Brussels airlines. When I check my booking on United it shows as I reserved but when I check on Brussels airlines website it shows "Cabin: Business".
I went ahead and called Brussels and requested to have seats assigned to me and he gave economy seats.
Bluntly, I protested why I'm being seated in economy if I have business class tickets, but the rep told me that he has no idea what I'm talking about and that I have an economy reservation.
What could this mean?.
 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on May 19, 2014, 06:09:05 PM
I made an economy class award reservation with United on Brussels airlines. When I check my booking on United it shows as I reserved but when I check on Brussels airlines website it shows "Cabin: Business".
I went ahead and called Brussels and requested to have seats assigned to me and he gave economy seats.
Bluntly, I protested why I'm being seated in economy if I have business class tickets, but the rep told me that he has no idea what I'm talking about and that I have an economy reservation.
What could this mean?.
 
IMHO it means they gave you what you paid for
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on May 19, 2014, 06:14:35 PM
IMHO it means they gave you what you paid for
I believe so too but when I checked a week ago it said economy and now it say business?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on May 19, 2014, 07:04:26 PM
That a sucker is born every minute?

I've seen standard available when saver wasn't many times...

I've never BOOKED it, but I did assume that those options were something other than what was available to Star Alliance.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 19, 2014, 07:08:26 PM
I've seen standard available when saver wasn't many times...

I've never BOOKED it, but I did assume that those options were something other than what was available to Star Alliance.
Nah... You probably just have to PUTPAC and book it on the Saver level.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2014, 07:47:48 PM
Nah... You probably just have to PUTPAC and book it on the Saver level.

Or he was looking at a UA flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 19, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
I've seen standard available when saver wasn't many times...

I've never BOOKED it, but I did assume that those options were something other than what was available to Star Alliance.
When was the last time you saw it? Hasn't been around for at least a year now.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 19, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
When was the last time you saw it? Hasn't been around for at least a year now.

So it does exist?

What is it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on May 19, 2014, 08:02:57 PM
I made an economy class award reservation with United on Brussels airlines. When I check my booking on United it shows as I reserved but when I check on Brussels airlines website it shows "Cabin: Business".
I went ahead and called Brussels and requested to have seats assigned to me and he gave economy seats.
Bluntly, I protested why I'm being seated in economy if I have business class tickets, but the rep told me that he has no idea what I'm talking about and that I have an economy reservation.
What could this mean?.
BUMP
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on May 20, 2014, 02:50:36 AM
BUMP
Happened to me 6 months ago. United will go ahead and price it at the lower fare yet they really can't access the seats so they write bisuness. Sometimes a UA agent won't know and u can buy an upgrade for 35k. Like me, I got a not nice agent and she specifically went out of her way to change me from Y to H bec she saw the pricing didn't match the class.

This is what 2 diff supervisors explained to me when I called back and said I want Y. And I showed them my original it in with Y in there.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on May 20, 2014, 11:46:31 PM
Happened to me 6 months ago. United will go ahead and price it at the lower fare yet they really can't access the seats so they write bisuness. Sometimes a UA agent won't know and u can buy an upgrade for 35k. Like me, I got a not nice agent and she specifically went out of her way to change me from Y to H bec she saw the pricing didn't match the class.

This is what 2 diff supervisors explained to me when I called back and said I want Y. And I showed them my original it in with Y in there.
I understand but in my case united still has it as economy rather brussels shows it as businees and when I called brussels they had no clue what I was talking about.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: robbie on May 21, 2014, 11:06:24 PM
Any way out of paying the 75$ dollars for late booking fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 21, 2014, 11:14:46 PM
Any way out of paying the 75$ dollars for late booking fee?
Attend a DD seminar.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: robbie on May 21, 2014, 11:17:23 PM
Attend a DD seminar.

haven't had one near me yet, care to enlighten me?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on May 21, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
Any way out of paying the 75$ dollars for late booking fee?
CMIIW doesn't the club card waive the fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 23, 2014, 12:36:04 AM
Can anyone explain this one? Why when I search from FRA it's not avail in J but when I start my trip in MAD, it is.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 23, 2014, 12:46:22 AM

Can anyone explain this one? Why when I search from FRA it's not avail in J but when I start my trip in MAD, it is.

I've had that before. Sometimes phantom availability, sometimes just a messed up system. But PUTPAC and you should be able to get some to book the one leg
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2014, 01:10:54 AM
Or just hold both and have them knock one off.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 23, 2014, 01:17:25 AM
Or just hold both and have them knock one off.
On ANA it shows that the FRA-JFK leg is indeed not avail in J. I'll try booking it, lets see what happens.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 23, 2014, 01:22:12 AM
Wonders! The flight is confirmed! I actually wanted to depart from MAD, was just worried that it's phantom availability. Now, maybe does LH release more seats to UA? ANA still shows no availability, and UA does, and they confirmed me already.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2014, 01:24:25 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=married+segment
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 23, 2014, 01:34:27 AM
https://www.google.com/search?q=married+segment
A real separate Msechta.

Never heard that it would work with LH on UA.

Now I understand why sometimes I am seeing  NYC-FRA-TLV on UA in J, for 80k., But when I search just FRA-TLV, nothing is available.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 23, 2014, 02:08:00 AM
Also, first time I am seeing married segments, that the long haul flight is not available, but it becomes available when the short haul - 2 hour flight is available, in this case FRA-JFK becomes available when he marries MAD-FRA. Usually it works the opposite. Though I have no experience.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on May 23, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
I have a flight booked from DFW to CDG (2 stops) , Crotia to houston (4 stops), houston to NY (nonstop).
I got an email from united saying they changed the times of 2 of my stops from croatia to houston, and my flight time from IAH to Newark.
I want a more direct flight for all of them, and would also like to upgrade to business saver if on UA...Does anyone think the airlines will let me switch my flight to another more convenient flight even if it isnt saver because they changed my flight already?
One caviat: They accidently only charged me 30k miles instead of the 60k...is there a chance they will charge the rest of the miles if I call them and they look at my itinerary more closely?

thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on May 25, 2014, 11:31:51 AM
Whats going on with the United callback line??
For the last two days I've been getting ridiculous wait times & when I finally do get through I get incompetent buffoons >:( >:(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: joelr773 on May 25, 2014, 11:53:20 AM
I have a flight booked from DFW to CDG (2 stops) , Crotia to houston (4 stops), houston to NY (nonstop).
I got an email from united saying they changed the times of 2 of my stops from croatia to houston, and my flight time from IAH to Newark.
I want a more direct flight for all of them, and would also like to upgrade to business saver if on UA...Does anyone think the airlines will let me switch my flight to another more convenient flight even if it isnt saver because they changed my flight already?
One caviat: They accidently only charged me 30k miles instead of the 60k...is there a chance they will charge the rest of the miles if I call them and they look at my itinerary more closely?

thanks
call them and tell them flight timing won't work for u then u have them in your ways they will let u change or credit the miles etc. For free
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 25, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
IF I want to switch a ticket from Standard to Saver, would I be charges a change fee? would I be able to get a agent to waive it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on May 25, 2014, 03:18:02 PM

call them and tell them flight timing won't work for u then u have them in your ways they will let u change or credit the miles etc. For free

I'm wondering if they will let me switch to ANY FLIGHT AVAILABLE? Even if it's not a saver.

Also. Will they let me witch the flights that weren't changed?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 25, 2014, 03:20:38 PM
I'm wondering if they will let me switch to ANY FLIGHT AVAILABLE? Even if it's not a saver.

Also. Will they let me witch the flights that weren't changed?
Why don't you call and find out?
No one here can tell you the outcome of a YMMV situation. Good luck.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Jb93davis on May 25, 2014, 03:28:43 PM

Why don't you call and find out?
No one here can tell you the outcome of a YMMV situation. Good luck.

K. I just wasn't sure how many times I should putpca
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on May 25, 2014, 03:29:50 PM
K. I just wasn't sure how many times I should putpca
PUTPAC happens once. After that it's HUCA ;)
Depending on how persistent you are, you can do anything with UA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 26, 2014, 02:45:31 PM
Some Saver award seats open on the UA EWR-TLV/TLV-EWR route the next couple of days. Finally.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 26, 2014, 02:55:59 PM
Yup. My sis had to go to the states last week. Her return today was booked in standard, then thankfully they opened saver and I was able to get the around 45k miles back per person. Was amazed
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 26, 2014, 03:15:05 PM
Yup. My sis had to go to the states last week. Her return today was booked in standard, then thankfully they opened saver and I was able to get the around 45k miles back per person. Was amazed
Was there any change fee?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 26, 2014, 03:23:27 PM

Was there any change fee?

Nope. But maybe bc they came from a premier gold account?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 26, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
Nope. But maybe bc they came from a premier gold account?
Gold still pays change fees. You called in, or did it online?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on May 26, 2014, 03:31:25 PM

Gold still pays change fees. You called in, or did it online?

Did it over the phone, I called in from my mileage number, 1k, and she right away was like "YES LET ME CHANGE IT."
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 26, 2014, 03:39:31 PM
Did it over the phone, I called in from my mileage number, 1k, and she right away was like "YES LET ME CHANGE IT."
BTW, I still need to find some time for a write up on how you can book very cheap REVENUE tickets with UA EWR-TLV/TLV-EWR last minute. For example, see attachment. A few days ago there was no L fares for these flights. They were not so cheap for the last few weeks/months.. But now the day of the flight they sell it for $1100. When I added a return in about 2 weeks from now the price was about $1300.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: how on May 26, 2014, 04:15:56 PM
BTW, I still need to find some time for a write up on how you can book very cheap REVENUE tickets with UA EWR-TLV/TLV-EWR last minute. For example, see attachment. A few days ago there was no L fares for these flights. They were not so cheap for the last few weeks/months.. But now the day of the flight they sell it for $1100. When I added a return in about 2 weeks from now the price was about $1300.
Please do
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on May 26, 2014, 10:27:16 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=married+segment
Is this term also applicable in award tickets? I thought its just a concept in revenue tickets.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: smart brit on May 26, 2014, 10:44:10 PM
I have a ticket with LH in j (on the old chart) but need to change dates, the problem is that lh didn't release yet anything to ua for those dates!
Should I cancel without redeposit and then wait until it opens up?
Will I still be able to upgrade to f?
Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: how on May 28, 2014, 03:16:56 PM
BTW, I still need to find some time for a write up on how you can book very cheap REVENUE tickets with UA EWR-TLV/TLV-EWR last minute. For example, see attachment. A few days ago there was no L fares for these flights. They were not so cheap for the last few weeks/months.. But now the day of the flight they sell it for $1100. When I added a return in about 2 weeks from now the price was about $1300.
Finding time any time soon? please
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on May 28, 2014, 06:09:38 PM
Is this term also applicable in award tickets? I thought its just a concept in revenue tickets.

Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Is this term also applicable in award tickets? I thought its just a concept in revenue tickets.
Haven't checked recently, but TN used to have much better J award space CDG-LAX-PPT than LAX-PPT.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 29, 2014, 01:04:35 AM
I changed an existing UA reservation with LH to a later date and UA gave me a new E-ticket number, however LH still shows the OLD E-ticket number on the new reservation. Is something going wrong?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on May 29, 2014, 08:36:12 AM
I changed an existing UA reservation with LH to a later date and UA gave me a new E-ticket number, however LH still shows the OLD E-ticket number on the new reservation. Is something going wrong?
Probably not. As long as UA re issued it, it's fine.

Did you call LH? Since most times it will show the old one online.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 29, 2014, 09:50:07 AM
Waiting for them to open up....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on May 29, 2014, 10:24:21 AM
Probably not. As long as UA re issued it, it's fine.

Did you call LH? Since most times it will show the old one online.
Called in. They have the new E-ticket number.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Mocha on June 03, 2014, 07:38:58 AM
So ua allows a free stopover? I need a free stop at a gateway city like aa used to allow. Tlv-nyc-lax.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 03, 2014, 07:42:36 AM
So ua allows a free stopover? I need a free stop at a gateway city like aa used to allow. Tlv-nyc-lax.

Only on a round trip.

So on TLV-NYC-LAX - No you cannot.

But TLV-NYC-LAX-TLV - Yes you can,
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Mocha on June 03, 2014, 08:06:26 AM
Only on a round trip.

So on TLV-NYC-LAX - No you cannot.

But TLV-NYC-LAX-TLV - Yes you can,
Thanks. Anyone else that allows it on a one way?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on June 03, 2014, 09:53:45 AM
Only on a round trip.
YMMV ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 03, 2014, 09:59:03 AM
YMMV ;)

Should have seen that coming.. But might take some long HUCA's
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 03, 2014, 10:13:59 AM
Should have seen that coming.. But might take some long HUCA's
ive had success booking a RT then I called in to change it to a OW and they didn't take away the stopover,
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 03, 2014, 10:21:18 AM
ive had success booking a RT then I called in to change it to a OW and they didn't take away the stopover,

Yea, I figured that was a way to do it. Was just too lazy to write that
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ranhan429 on June 04, 2014, 02:43:06 PM
Say I want to book a stopover. I choose multi-city destination. I live in IL so it could look something like this:

1. TLV - ATH
2. ATH - TLV (stop over here for a couple weeks)
3. TLV - NCE

I always get an error. I'm not sure why. I tried other airports as well -- still no luck. Any advice? Am I missing something here?

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 05, 2014, 11:13:27 PM
Say I want to book a stopover. I choose multi-city destination. I live in IL so it could look something like this:

1. TLV - ATH
2. ATH - TLV (stop over here for a couple weeks)
3. TLV - NCE

I always get an error. I'm not sure why. I tried other airports as well -- still no luck. Any advice? Am I missing something here?
It's an illegal routing. By returning to TLV, you are completing a round trip, you can't stopover there.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 05, 2014, 11:36:23 PM
It's an illegal routing. By returning to TLV, you are completing a round trip, you can't stopover there.
Why is it different than NYC-TLV-NYC-LAX. The only difference I see is that LAX  is in the same zone as NYC.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 05, 2014, 11:40:17 PM
Not sure if it's a legal routing or not, but the UA system sucks, whenever you wanna book anything complicated it errors out.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: smart brit on June 05, 2014, 11:52:15 PM
I have a ticket with LH in j (on the old chart) but need to change dates, the problem is that lh didn't release yet anything to ua for those dates!
Should I cancel without redeposit and then wait until it opens up?
Will I still be able to upgrade to f?
Thanks
Bump
Should I just ask for cancel without redeposit?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 05, 2014, 11:58:33 PM
Why is it different than NYC-TLV-NYC-LAX. The only difference I see is that LAX  is in the same zone as NYC.
Exactly.
Over here, you are returning to the same zone as the destination on the RT.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 06, 2014, 12:07:29 AM
Exactly.
Over here, you are returning to the same zone as the destination on the RT.
is Hawaii the same zone as well?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ranhan429 on June 06, 2014, 02:00:43 AM
It's an illegal routing. By returning to TLV, you are completing a round trip, you can't stopover there.

From what I understand you need to stopover EITHER and your origin or at your destination. That is the point of the stopover no?

I saw stop over flights that were indeed like this
A -B
B - A
A - C

So maybe UA is just glitchy as heck?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 06, 2014, 01:53:13 PM
Does the trick to avoid the close in fee work on the phone?

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on June 09, 2014, 03:32:54 PM
Does the trick to avoid the close in fee work on the phone?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ranhan429 on June 09, 2014, 04:40:32 PM
From what I understand you need to stopover EITHER and your origin or at your destination. That is the point of the stopover no?

I saw stop over flights that were indeed like this
A -B
B - A
A - C

So maybe UA is just glitchy as heck?
anyone?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 06:06:49 PM
Is there a point to checking in online for a UA flight in J? I don't really need to worry about a long line at priority checkin or about overhead space.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 09, 2014, 06:11:58 PM
Is there a point to checking in online for a UA flight in J? I don't really need to worry about a long line at priority checkin or about overhead space.

If you don't check in and get there late, they could give away your seat.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
If you don't check in and get there late, they could give away your seat.
Ooo ok then good to know.
2 seats together on a UA 767-400 - can either be first row (bulkhead) or last row (close to bathroom). From seatguru it looks like there's a galley in front and in back. Is bulkhead annoying bc you can't have any bags down during takeoff/landing? Will the lie-flat be limited bc of it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 09:42:43 PM
Couldn't check in. Got an email saying my passport needs to be verified at the airport. Any ideas?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 09, 2014, 09:43:50 PM
Couldn't check in. Got an email saying my passport needs to be verified at the airport. Any ideas?
New passport?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on June 09, 2014, 11:12:20 PM
New passport?
Nope.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: HDS on June 10, 2014, 12:57:40 PM
I'm looking on United.com for a flight for two, one-way from Israel to NYC in saver business/first somewhere around 1/25/15-1/27/15. I have a CC, but no other status.

This is not a request for help with the flight per se, but rather a request for help understanding my options in the process. If anything that I'm asking is of a don't-discuss-in-public nature, please let me know here or PM me (or both).

1. For my dates, I see nothing in saver business/first except on partners, and they all seem to have moderate (5h+) layovers or mixed-cabin booking, or both. How risky is it to wait and see? Is United (or the partners) known to open things up x days or weeks prior?

2. Let's say I want to book something now and see if something better comes up. Do I have any chance of switching a Standard award to a Saver on a different date? The CC doesn't give me a higher status for change fees, right? If I book something and change the date 21+ days before, it will be $75/ticket, within 21 days, $100/ticket, both assuming I keep the same beginning and end points? But would they let me pocket the difference in miles in those cases, if I found saver availability? $200/ticket to cancel and redeposit the miles, right? Ew.

3. Would I have any other options if I didn't want to redeposit the miles?

4. I'm intrigued to try Plan B on United itself, but I don't see any saver availability for them at all for my dates.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 10, 2014, 02:46:09 PM
I'm looking on United.com for a flight for two, one-way from Israel to NYC in saver business/first somewhere around 1/25/15-1/27/15. I have a CC, but no other status.

This is not a request for help with the flight per se, but rather a request for help understanding my options in the process. If anything that I'm asking is of a don't-discuss-in-public nature, please let me know here or PM me (or both).

1. For my dates, I see nothing in saver business/first except on partners, and they all seem to have moderate (5h+) layovers or mixed-cabin booking, or both. How risky is it to wait and see? Is United (or the partners) known to open things up x days or weeks prior?

2. Let's say I want to book something now and see if something better comes up. Do I have any chance of switching a Standard award to a Saver on a different date? The CC doesn't give me a higher status for change fees, right? If I book something and change the date 21+ days before, it will be $75/ticket, within 21 days, $100/ticket, both assuming I keep the same beginning and end points? But would they let me pocket the difference in miles in those cases, if I found saver availability? $200/ticket to cancel and redeposit the miles, right? Ew.

3. Would I have any other options if I didn't want to redeposit the miles?

4. I'm intrigued to try Plan B on United itself, but I don't see any saver availability for them at all for my dates.

Thanks in advance.
It's very very hard to find UA direct availability to TLV. You will get back the difference in miles if saver opens up. They may wanna ask you for a change fee.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avadah on June 10, 2014, 03:12:40 PM
Will United switching to revenue based miles effect the availability of award seats or will it only effect earning miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2014, 03:14:12 PM
Will United switching to revenue based miles effect the availability of award seats or will it only effect earning miles?

Latter (technically).
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avadah on June 10, 2014, 03:15:04 PM
(technically).
?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 10, 2014, 03:31:32 PM
Meaning it shouldn't have anything to do with it, but when you're losing $600MM a quarter and you're making changes like these, other things may change as well in practice.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 10, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
They should really consider hiring some DDF'rs in their Executive board.

And hire a new CEO ASAP.

And they will stop loosing $600MM. Copying what DL does (and ignoring the good products that DL offers as Dan wrote) will not help you. Sorry Jeff.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2014, 03:44:26 PM

They should really consider hiring some DDF'rs in their Executive board.

And hire a new CEO ASAP.

And they will stop loosing $600MM. Copying what DL does (and ignoring the good products that DL offers as Dan wrote) will not help you. Sorry Jeff.

+1. Flew delta economy AMS-MSP and was a GREAT flight. I would do it again
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 10, 2014, 04:06:41 PM
If I am flying Tlv-x-x-cle
Which flights need to be ua metal to get the lower rate and does the same hold true if there is a stopover or a third x (Tlv-x-x-x-cle)?
Title: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
If I am flying Tlv-x-x-cle
Which flights need to be ua metal to get the lower rate and does the same hold true if there is a stopover or a third x (Tlv-x-x-x-cle)?

The flight over the water needs to be Ua metal and the tlv-europe flight lets say needs to be one class lower
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: HDS on June 10, 2014, 04:18:57 PM
It's very very hard to find UA direct availability to TLV. You will get back the difference in miles if saver opens up. They may wanna ask you for a change fee.

Thanks very much for the reply. *From* technically, though I imagine the availability is pretty much the same. :)

Quick poll: Given the choice, and using your miles (not free-boating on mine! :) ) would you take:

A. Partner Saver Economy (42.5k miles) with a sub 2h connection somewhere, total time under 15.5 hours.

B. Saver Business or mixed cabin Business+First (80k or 90k miles) with a 5 hour connection in Brussels with lounge availability, total time 18h or so. Is First across the Atlantic worth the extra 10k up each from Business?

C. Standard Non-Stop United Business (175k) and hope Saver availability opens up, total time 12h15m.

Two adults, no kids, no health reasons to push in one direction or the other.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 10, 2014, 05:14:46 PM
The flight over the water needs to be Ua metal and the tlv-europe flight lets say needs to be one class lower
I have TLV-MUC LH and MUC-EWR-CLE UA and im getting 80k (not 70k)...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2014, 05:19:11 PM

I have TLV-MUC LH and MUC-EWR-CLE UA and im getting 80k (not 70k)...

Is TLV-MUC also J? If the UA flights is J TLV-MUC would need to be Y
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 10, 2014, 05:41:00 PM
Is TLV-MUC also J? If the UA flights is J TLV-MUC would need to be Y
all I = 80k
first X then I= 82.5k  :o :o :o
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2014, 05:55:28 PM

all I = 80k
first X then I= 82.5k  :o :o :o

Really strange. Seems the second option is charging you for the EWR-CLE leg. Maybe PUTPAC. or post a picture here of the ua.com page and let us take a look at it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 10, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
Really strange. Seems the second option is charging you for the EWR-CLE leg. Maybe PUTPAC. or post a picture here of the ua.com page and let us take a look at it.
Shiz just booked (I) and left how long do I have to cancel/change?
I can give flight numbers...
Tlv-vie Os858 6/15
Vie-muc os111 6/16
Muc-ewr ua107 6/16
Ewr-cle (I forgot)
I'm gonna call know I'll let u know what happens... Doubt it'll be easy to lower an already booked award
Title: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2014, 06:42:56 PM
On ua you have 24 hrs to cancel

Eta: the ewr-cle has to be within 24 hrs for it to count as a layover and not a separate trip.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 10, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
On ua you have 24 hrs to cancel

Eta: the ewr-cle has to be within 24 hrs for it to count as a layover and not a separate trip.
It is
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2014, 06:49:29 PM

It is

Hmm. Good luck. Let us know what happens
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 10, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
all I = 80k
first X then I= 82.5k  :o :o :o
Screenshot please?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 10, 2014, 07:07:45 PM
Thanks very much for the reply. *From* technically, though I imagine the availability is pretty much the same. :)

Quick poll: Given the choice, and using your miles (not free-boating on mine! :) ) would you take:

A. Partner Saver Economy (42.5k miles) with a sub 2h connection somewhere, total time under 15.5 hours.

B. Saver Business or mixed cabin Business+First (80k or 90k miles) with a 5 hour connection in Brussels with lounge availability, total time 18h or so. Is First across the Atlantic worth the extra 10k up each from Business?

C. Standard Non-Stop United Business (175k) and hope Saver availability opens up, total time 12h15m.

Two adults, no kids, no health reasons to push in one direction or the other.
I would go with B and fly First for additional 10k. BTW the business product on that flight is really bad, so I would definitely go with F for 10k more miles. I would also rather fly LY J to BRU rather than SN J...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 10, 2014, 07:20:33 PM
Screenshot please?
Sorry from phone... Also getting nowhere with phone reps...
BTW ideally I'd like to be in Vienna to tour during day... Being there @ night bids lame so may change
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 10, 2014, 07:53:21 PM
I would go with B and fly First for additional 10k. BTW the business product on that flight is really bad, so I would definitely go with F for 10k more miles. I would also rather fly LY J to BRU rather than SN J...
If there is UA F availability use Aeroplan miles it will be 62.5k not 80k for bru-nyc and 30k AA miles for LY J, TLV-BRU
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 11, 2014, 07:33:48 AM
Kk so huca x3 and booked first two legs Tlv-vie-muc in economy (single-cabin flights anyway) and lowered to 70k
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 11, 2014, 07:37:03 AM
Kk so huca x3 and booked first two legs Tlv-vie-muc in economy (single-cabin flights anyway) and lowered to 70k

Sounds good.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 11, 2014, 07:46:25 AM
Next, can I check my luggage all the way through (besides for ewr security thing obviously)?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 11, 2014, 08:04:42 AM

Next, can I check my luggage all the way through (besides for ewr security thing obviously)?

You might be required to get your bag in Vienna
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 11, 2014, 01:31:46 PM
You might be required to get your bag in Vienna
Thats the sheila...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: thaber on June 15, 2014, 07:09:40 PM
united.com is not showing a single award flight from now until Sept for LAX-NYC. What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: joey123 on June 15, 2014, 07:14:42 PM
united.com is not showing a single award flight from now until Sept for LAX-NYC. What am I doing wrong?

Check again. There are a bunch of flight throughout the month. Which dates are you looking for?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on June 15, 2014, 07:14:47 PM

united.com is not showing a single award flight from now until Sept for LAX-NYC. What am I doing wrong?
If you're looking to fly business I found a flight on my first try. Are you looking for a specific date, how many passengers, what class?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: thaber on June 15, 2014, 07:18:48 PM
If you're looking to fly business I found a flight on my first try. Are you looking for a specific date, how many passengers, what class?
Sorry guys, I misspoke. I meant a single saver award flight. looking for August 10th, direct business saver to JFK is ideal.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on June 15, 2014, 07:37:23 PM

Sorry guys, I misspoke. I meant a single saver award flight. looking for August 10th, direct business saver to JFK is ideal.
I understand that you're talking about Saver because non-saver is almost always available. I'd imagine you'd have to wait closer to that time and even then, to JFK it's very hard if even possible to come by saver award.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Freddie on June 16, 2014, 02:11:36 AM
UGH!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Please help me!!! I am trying to book a flight with a stopover by using multiple destinations. I keep getting an error. Please, what am I doing wrong? Where is the most up to date info on UA stopover policies?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 16, 2014, 02:19:29 AM
UGH!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Please help me!!! I am trying to book a flight with a stopover by using multiple destinations. I keep getting an error. Please, what am I doing wrong? Where is the most up to date info on UA stopover policies?
I believe this is still accurate
http://www.dansdeals.com/wiki/Award_Stopover/OJ_Rules
I just booked one no prob...
Post ur flight numbers/screenshot maybe someone can help
(chucksterace ;D)


Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Freddie on June 16, 2014, 02:23:15 AM
I believe this is still accurate
http://www.dansdeals.com/wiki/Award_Stopover/OJ_Rules
I just booked one no prob...
Post ur flight numbers/screenshot maybe someone can help
(chucksterace ;D)

I keep getting the error screen. What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 16, 2014, 02:28:01 AM
I keep getting the error screen. What am I doing wrong?
Idk you are giving very little info...
Try dif flight combinations or PUTPAC
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Freddie on June 16, 2014, 02:41:23 AM
Basically, no matter what flight combinations I try, I get this screen.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on June 16, 2014, 02:57:49 AM
You still haven't told us what you're trying to book. How can we tell you what's wrong?

And sometimes it's just the beauty of united.dumb so you gotta PUTPAC.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Freddie on June 16, 2014, 03:12:11 AM
You still haven't told us what you're trying to book. How can we tell you what's wrong?

And sometimes it's just the beauty of united.dumb so you gotta PUTPAC.

OK, so here's what I am trying to do. MEL-PIT on July 8 on saver first class. The itineraries that are available are crazy, they all involve weird layovers, specifically IAH or EWR. Not places I have any desire to stop in.

What I want to do is go MEL-LAX or even MEL-SFO on 7/8, stay over, then fly home to PIT on 7/9.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 16, 2014, 07:17:26 AM
Usually when UA.bomb errors out without showing any results is because of an illegal routing but your routing sounds legal. Put the leg you found on hold online and PUTPAC to add the rest.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on June 16, 2014, 08:07:22 AM
Usually when UA.bomb errors out without showing any results is because of an illegal routing but your routing sounds legal. Put the leg you found on hold online and PUTPAC to add the rest.
Can anyone put legs on hold? Or since the new rules, you need certain status?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 16, 2014, 08:08:25 AM
Can anyone put legs on hold? Or since the new rules, you need certain status?
Yes. There are a variety of ways. PM.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: meshugener on June 16, 2014, 08:23:04 AM
Why mess with holds? Just call and get it done.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 16, 2014, 08:24:43 AM
Why mess with holds? Just call and get it done.
Why risk losing it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 16, 2014, 09:22:10 AM
OK, so here's what I am trying to do. MEL-PIT on July 8 on saver first class. The itineraries that are available are crazy, they all involve weird layovers, specifically IAH or EWR. Not places I have any desire to stop in.

What I want to do is go MEL-LAX or even MEL-SFO on 7/8, stay over, then fly home to PIT on 7/9.
I pull it up on UA.com just by searching MEL-PIT.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Freddie on June 16, 2014, 09:42:05 AM
I pull it up on UA.com just by searching MEL-PIT.

You probably have expanded availability. I am "in between" explorer cards right now.  :(
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 16, 2014, 09:43:09 AM
You probably have expanded availability. I am "in between" explorer cards right now.  :(
I am logged out. You have to scroll down.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 16, 2014, 09:49:19 AM
Here.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Freddie on June 16, 2014, 09:50:03 AM
I am logged out. You have to scroll down.

Yes, I see, they all involve sleeping in IAH or EWR in the wee hours. I am trying to get my stopover to be in LAX.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Freddie on June 16, 2014, 10:22:50 AM
Ok, I'm all done. I got MEL-LAX and then same day LAX-DEN-PIT.

I did not see that possibility online but the ex-Continental agent did. I opted for getting home that same day over the LAX stopover which I really only wanted as a way of avoiding sleeping in IAH or EWR.

Thanks, guys!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on June 16, 2014, 03:20:39 PM
If i am paying 65K FCO-NYC for standard award, can i get a higher class of service on NYC-LAX, or is it only based on which class i am flying?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 16, 2014, 03:29:03 PM
If i am paying 65K FCO-NYC for standard award, can i get a higher class of service on NYC-LAX, or is it only based on which class i am flying?

based on which class you are flying? Why you paying so much. Nothing cheaper?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on June 16, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
based on which class you are flying? Why you paying so much. Nothing cheaper?
Standard Y. Nothing else available for the day and time i need to fly. Hoping Saaver opens up closer to flight.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 17, 2014, 03:24:11 PM
k so I booked on dad's account for status and now when im trying to transfer miles I get this
Quote
(Each recipient is limited to a total of 25,000 miles per calendar year from all individuals under the MileagePlus Transfer Miles program.)
plus it costs  :-[
Is there an easier way to accomplish this?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on June 17, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
k so I booked on dad's account for status and now when im trying to transfer miles I get this plus it costs  :-[
Is there an easier way to accomplish this?
Are you transferring MileagePlus o MileagePlus?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Chapshnell on June 17, 2014, 05:40:47 PM
Have an urgent issue, friend is on a united flight leaving 6:30pm. Aeroplan never ticketed his ticket. What can I do to expedite it?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheD on June 17, 2014, 05:47:00 PM
Are you transferring MileagePlus o MileagePlus?
Yes
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: avremie on June 18, 2014, 07:41:15 PM
would united allow me to change airlines on an award flight same day without a fee? and how does Austrian j jfk-tlv compare to Brussels j?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 19, 2014, 12:56:02 AM
When upgrading a UA economy class to business class on international flights, who will clear first, a premier silver flying on a full fare B class, or a 1K flying on a discounted economy class?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2014, 01:07:27 AM
When upgrading a UA economy class to business class on international flights, who will clear first, a premier silver flying on a full fare B class, or a 1K flying on a discounted economy class?

Aside for some exceptions, there are generally no complimentary upgrades on int'l routes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 19, 2014, 01:09:30 AM
Aside for some exceptions, there are generally no complimentary upgrades on int'l routes.
Sorry, I'm talking about upgrading for 35k miles.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on June 19, 2014, 12:17:37 PM
I'm waiting for a specific LH flight to open up in First. Right now there is only one seat avail. Does UA ever show less seats than there are actually available?
Should I bother calling up?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 19, 2014, 12:24:18 PM
I'm waiting for a specific LH flight to open up in First. Right now there is only one seat avail. Does UA ever show less seats than there are actually available?
Should I bother calling up?
Worth a shot.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2014, 12:40:50 PM
I'm waiting for a specific LH flight to open up in First. Right now there is only one seat avail. Does UA ever show less seats than there are actually available?
Should I bother calling up?

Check ANA; if it ain't there, it ain't available, IME.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on June 19, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
Check ANA; if it ain't there, it ain't available, IME.

Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 22, 2014, 02:22:59 AM
I'm considering a last-minute booking from TLV-MLE through IST 6/24 on TK. Expertflyer shows 4 I class seats available, but united and aeroplan don't show anything. Can't check ANA as <4 days out. Called United also and they said no availability (something about ghost seats, but she also said I couldn't put the return flights, which were available [also not showing online though], on hold because "they don't do that anymore, and haven't for over a year", so I think she just wasn't in the mood to work). Any ideas?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 22, 2014, 05:18:48 AM
I'm considering a last-minute booking from TLV-MLE through IST 6/24 on TK. Expertflyer shows 4 I class seats available, but united and aeroplan don't show anything. Can't check ANA as <4 days out. Called United also and they said no availability (something about ghost seats, but she also said I couldn't put the return flights, which were available [also not showing online though], on hold because "they don't do that anymore, and haven't for over a year", so I think she just wasn't in the mood to work). Any ideas?

Also checked TK btw and they're showing award space, although I don't know if they release different award availability to different airlines, although my understanding was if I class is available that it would be available for any *alliance partner ticket, no?

Called united again and at least got someone nicer but still said one of the legs wasn't available (again even though EF and TK show availability.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 22, 2014, 05:42:10 AM
Also checked TK btw and they're showing award space, although I don't know if they release different award availability to different airlines, although my understanding was if I class is available that it would be available for any *alliance partner ticket, no?

Called united again and at least got someone nicer but still said one of the legs wasn't available (again even though EF and TK show availability.

What airline is the flight on?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 22, 2014, 06:41:29 AM
What airline is the flight on?

Turkish.
I-class:
TK 789 TLV-IST (6/24)
TK 730 IST-MLE (6/25)

X-class
TK 731 MLE-IST (6/29)
TK 784 IST-TLV (6/30)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 24, 2014, 07:02:03 AM
Anyone want to send me a friendly PM about getting out of close-in fees for UA (excluding status or club card)? Would be eternally grateful  ;D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 24, 2014, 08:40:27 AM
Anyone want to send me a friendly PM about getting out of close-in fees for UA (excluding status or club card)? Would be eternally grateful  ;D
Did you get your pm yet?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Feivish on June 24, 2014, 10:57:19 AM
I'm currently waitlisted for next week NYC-TLV in XN.
How does it work, do I need to go to the airport and wait there? Is there a chance they call before 24 hours before the flight to confirm? Will my name show on the standby list?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: rots5 on June 24, 2014, 11:14:12 AM
Did you get your pm yet?
off the hook its been so busy! :D
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on June 24, 2014, 12:37:54 PM
How much(money)does it cost to upgrade from K to J on a nyc-tlv, one way?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on June 24, 2014, 01:05:46 PM
How much(money)does it cost to upgrade from K to J on a nyc-tlv, one way?
K is the lowest fare in economy J is the highest fare in business. It will cost you A LOT.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on June 24, 2014, 01:12:33 PM
K is the lowest fare in economy J is the highest fare in business. It will cost you A LOT.
I know, but how how much?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: myb821 on June 24, 2014, 01:28:52 PM
I know, but how how much?
PUTPAC
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 24, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
Did you get your pm yet?

I did, thanks.  ;D
Feeling the love on DDF.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 25, 2014, 09:21:32 AM
Ok so booked with United, flights are on Turkish.

My mileage award says whats in the attached image. My understanding was that meant two bags each for free. Called United, they said I get no bags, and luggage would be assessed at $27/Kg. That's insane. I asked to speak with a manager and they said I would have to call Turkish.

Both flights are exclusively on TK, but does this sound right for a United award? I though baggage allowance on awards go according to the company you book through? 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 25, 2014, 09:24:30 AM
Ok so booked with United, flights are on Turkish.

My mileage award says whats in the attached image. My understanding was that meant two bags each for free. Called United, they said I get no bags, and luggage would be assessed at $27/Kg. That's insane. I asked to speak with a manager and they said I would have to call Turkish.

Both flights are exclusively on TK, but does this sound right for a United award? I though baggage allowance on awards go according to the company you book through?

Just ignore that. Look on TK for baggage allowance and follow that.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: IsraelGuy on June 25, 2014, 09:27:17 AM
Just ignore that. Look on TK for baggage allowance and follow that.

Got in touch with TK which confirms 20Kg pp. Sheesh.

So it goes according to whatever airline you're traveling on then?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: myb821 on June 25, 2014, 09:31:37 AM
Got in touch with TK which confirms 20Kg pp. Sheesh.

So it goes according to whatever airline you're traveling on then?
always
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on June 25, 2014, 09:33:52 AM
Got in touch with TK which confirms 20Kg pp. Sheesh.

So it goes according to whatever airline you're traveling on then?

Yes. Every single time. Any airline can put what they want on their own papers but that don't matter.

However, keep in mind that for the Maldives sometimes the hotels have their own limits for the boats or planes
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on June 29, 2014, 02:51:00 AM
If I book a United flight with Miles and More and then want to change the flight does anyone know what the fees would be?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on June 29, 2014, 08:46:45 AM
If I book a United flight with Miles and More and then want to change the flight does anyone know what the fees would be?
$60
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on June 30, 2014, 11:31:46 AM
Booked a MP award on OS. united.bomb didn't show the Amadeus Locator, so I called web support for locator, and was told they cant give it because its not an Austrian flight, rather a "TYROLEAN AIRWAYS", they can only give it if its "pure Austrian" flight.
So I called LH with the ticket ticket number, they told they can't do nothing because its an OS Flight, I told the rep that they are one (not like LX with LH which are 2 different res systems, OS/LH are both on Amadeus, when calling OS they answer the phone "thanks for calling LH"), but after a few minutes she finally gave me the record locator, then called right back LH and got KSML & Seats done....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @jack123 on June 30, 2014, 11:37:30 PM
If I book a domestic united award flight using lifemiles, will I get any free bags? I Have united mpe- would paying the fees with that make a difference?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: how on July 01, 2014, 10:52:49 AM
Im trying to book an award seat for a child but they want let because he cant travel alone. Can I change a baby birthday to an adult to be able to book a seat for a baby with miles online?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 01, 2014, 11:03:49 AM
I'm trying to book an award seat for a child but they want let because he cant travel alone. Can I change a baby birthday to an adult to be able to book a seat for a baby with miles online?

Did you try calling?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: asks on July 01, 2014, 11:33:10 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to get any sort of comp for United not having KSML on NYC-SFO Businessfirst?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 01, 2014, 11:35:04 AM
Does anyone know if it's possible to get any sort of comp for United not having KSML on NYC-SFO Businessfirst?

Try the compensation thread. There have been reports of such.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on July 01, 2014, 11:54:56 AM
Anybody united has 20k saver award the lhr?
Not a specific date just wanna know as a whole. I thought I saw it once
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on July 01, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Anybody united has 20k saver award the lhr?
Not a specific date just wanna know as a whole. I thought I saw it once
from nyc to lhr
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 01, 2014, 12:03:34 PM
from nyc to lhr

I don't think so. AA has US>Europe off-peak for 20k
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: joelr773 on July 01, 2014, 12:09:48 PM
Anybody united has 20k saver award the lhr?
Not a specific date just wanna know as a whole. I thought I saw it once
Only AA has 20k and winter time only
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: joelr773 on July 01, 2014, 12:10:19 PM
And Europe in general not specific from lhr
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: how on July 01, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
Did you try calling?
$25
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 01, 2014, 01:40:05 PM
$25

You can ask for a waiver since it cannot be booked online.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: how on July 01, 2014, 01:44:55 PM
You can ask for a waiver since it cannot be booked online.
Ill huca but I wanted to know if someone knows the answer to my question
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on July 01, 2014, 02:04:31 PM
I found 3 Saver Award (business) flights on the date I want to fly back from LA the only problem is its @1:30 PM and I'd rather not lose that day. Should I wait and hopefully more flights will open or should I book and worse case scenario pay $180 to leave that night.

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: The Guy on July 02, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
Can someone please send a me a pm how to avoide the fee with 21 days of flying.
I have now a booking waiting to confirm.

Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bubble347 on July 02, 2014, 05:29:03 PM
How long after and award booking can I cancel without fees?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 02, 2014, 05:33:22 PM
How long after and award booking can I cancel without fees?
24 hrs.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on July 02, 2014, 10:05:04 PM
 Allow reservations to be canceled for a certain period after purchase
When you book and ticket a reservation through United Reservations, united.com, at our ticket counters or city ticket offices, or if you use MileagePlus® miles to book an award ticket on United, we will allow you to cancel the ticketed reservation without penalty and receive a 100 percent refund if you cancel the reservation within 24 hours of purchase and if the reservation is made one week or more prior to scheduled flight departure.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Chaimy on July 03, 2014, 12:07:55 PM
Is there any way I can get a itinerary like NYC to Venice Venice to Paris Paris to NYC for less than 70,000 united miles per ticket?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 03, 2014, 12:12:37 PM
Is there any way I can get a itinerary like NYC to Venice Venice to Paris Paris to NYC for less than 70,000 united miles per ticket?
Look for saver award space.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Chaimy on July 03, 2014, 12:46:17 PM
Can I so it on the mobile site or only on desktop because on the mobile site the cheapest was around 120,000
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 03, 2014, 01:09:14 PM
I see United space online, but none of the reps can book me into that flight. Additionally, i cannot change that leg online and the rep says all they can do is alert someone with United. Anyone have any ideas on how i can get my desired flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 03, 2014, 01:42:25 PM
I see United space online, but none of the reps can book me into that flight. Additionally, i cannot change that leg online and the rep says all they can do is alert someone with United. Anyone have any ideas on how i can get my desired flight?
Which flights?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 03, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
Which flights?
I'm booked this (http://gyazo.com/ad698516d3264f9e84596e03e5e5d1cb) and want this (http://gyazo.com/97b8f30ebefa35164e1ebd0781fd2f76) for my second leg.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 03, 2014, 02:22:40 PM
I'm booked this (http://gyazo.com/ad698516d3264f9e84596e03e5e5d1cb) and want this (http://gyazo.com/97b8f30ebefa35164e1ebd0781fd2f76) for my second leg.
Is it available on ANA?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bubble347 on July 03, 2014, 02:24:40 PM
I'm booked this (http://gyazo.com/ad698516d3264f9e84596e03e5e5d1cb) and want this (http://gyazo.com/97b8f30ebefa35164e1ebd0781fd2f76) for my second leg.
Don't you want to give yourself enough time to enjoy the FCT?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 03, 2014, 02:28:42 PM
Is it available on ANA?
Yup.

See here. (http://gyazo.com/2ece58f950110b27b1703735d77fa689)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 03, 2014, 02:35:25 PM
Don't you want to give yourself enough time to enjoy the FCT?
O i do. But i am only going to have a day in VCE if i come in so late and wont as much time to go around. Annnd my wife may or may not be that happy about that prospect.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 03, 2014, 05:12:51 PM
O i do. But i am only going to have a day in VCE if i come in so late and wont as much time to go around. Annnd my wife may or may not be that happy about that prospect.
Is it available when searched as one leg or does it only show up in conjunction with another flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 03, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
Wanted to mention this, but from the screenshot it looks like its available separate.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 03, 2014, 09:35:12 PM
Wanted to mention this, but from the screenshot it looks like its available separate.
I can book it alone. But don't want to lay out 60K for it and only possibly get it back somehow.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 04, 2014, 12:22:24 AM
I can book it alone. But don't want to lay out 60K for it and only possibly get it back somehow.
Sometimes it's only available as a married segment, that's why he asked if it was available separate. I assume he didn't mean that you should actually book it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 04, 2014, 07:40:33 AM
Sometimes it's only available as a married segment, that's why he asked if it was available separate. I assume he didn't mean that you should actually book it.
Exactly.
It's probably a married segment issue. You may have luck asking UA to contact the LH liaison and asking them to break the married segment.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on July 04, 2014, 08:04:34 AM
Booked a MP award on OS. united.bomb didn't show the Amadeus Locator, so I called web support for locator, and was told they cant give it because its not an Austrian flight, rather a "TYROLEAN AIRWAYS", they can only give it if its "pure Austrian" flight.
So I called LH with the ticket ticket number, they told they can't do nothing because its an OS Flight, I told the rep that they are one (not like LX with LH which are 2 different res systems, OS/LH are both on Amadeus, when calling OS they answer the phone "thanks for calling LH"), but after a few minutes she finally gave me the record locator, then called right back LH and got KSML & Seats done....
Next time you can simply input your UA confirmation number on LH.com,  it will pull up your record and show the Amadeus confirmation.  You can then select seats and confirm kosher on OS.com. 
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on July 04, 2014, 08:08:28 AM


Next time you can simply input your UA confirmation number on LH.com,  it will pull up your record and show the Amadeus confirmation.

Sure about this?

You can then select seats and confirm kosher on OS.com.

Kept on erroring out
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on July 04, 2014, 08:11:58 AM



Sure about this?

Kept on erroring out

I have a flight EWR-VIE this Sunday.  Booked with UAMP,  I input my UA PNR on LH, and retrieved an Amadeus PNR. I was then successful in seat selection and KSML on OS.com.

We're you able to pull up your record on LH with  the UA confirmation?  And only had difficulty selecting seats?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on July 04, 2014, 08:12:58 AM

I have a flight EWR-VIE this Sunday.  Booked with UAMP,  I input my UA PNR on LH, and retrieved an Amadeus PNR. I was then successful in seat selection and KSML on OS.com.

We're you able to pull up your record on LH with  the UA confirmation?  And only had difficulty selecting seats?
Didn't try pulling it up. Flight is flown, so next time...
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Mushkie10 on July 04, 2014, 08:22:19 AM
I need to fly NYC -lax-mex-NYC, can I make any one of those trips a free stopover with united miles? If yes, how do I go about booking/searching? Do I have to call and pay the 25?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: itsyehuda on July 04, 2014, 10:53:16 AM
I need to fly NYC -lax-mex-NYC, can I make any one of those trips a free stopover with united miles? If yes, how do I go about booking/searching? Do I have to call and pay the 25?

Should be fine. Search Multiple cities.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Marco Polo on July 04, 2014, 10:56:19 AM
Sometimes it's only available as a married segment, that's why he asked if it was available separate. I assume he didn't mean that you should actually book it.
Exactly.
It's probably a married segment issue. You may have luck asking UA to contact the LH liaison and asking them to break the married segment.
Thanks. I'll look into that.
Title: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on July 04, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
I'm having difficulty figuring this out can someone help me?
1) How many Biz/First saver award are available? Seems like none, correct?
2) Can/will these numbers change as it gets closer to departure date?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on July 04, 2014, 12:48:08 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/44505
None
Of course.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 04, 2014, 12:51:09 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/44505
None
Of course there is a chance.
FTFY
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Chaimy on July 04, 2014, 05:45:29 PM
Is there a way I can get a flight from Rome to NYC for cheaper than 65,000 united miles economy class?
And also on a ticket from NYC to Venice I have for 30,000 miles with a stop in Zurich just for 9 hours and I would prefer to make the stop longer is there a way I can make a longer stopover for the same miles?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: 12HRS on July 06, 2014, 12:26:01 AM
Anyone know how to avoid the $100 change fee on a mileage booking that needs to be changed within 24 hours of the flight?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on July 06, 2014, 12:57:09 AM
Anyone know how to avoid the $100 change fee on a mileage booking that needs to be changed within 24 hours of the flight?

I just changed mine online (International within 24 hours), and it was $50. Not sure when they charge 50 and when 100. It used to be all online changes 50.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Super Speed on July 07, 2014, 12:11:41 AM
What's Uniteds best aircraft for flying domestically in business/first?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 07, 2014, 06:57:14 AM
What's Uniteds best aircraft for flying domestically in business/first?
The 757-200's flying JFK-LAX and some out of Newark. You can see the configuration by checking the seat map.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 07, 2014, 09:23:13 AM
UA 84/90 for today, 84 for tomorrow are open for award. And currently UA 90 for Wednsday has open Y AND J for award!!!!!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 07, 2014, 09:24:32 AM
UA 84/90 for today, 84 for tomorrow are open for award. And currently UA 90 for Wednsday has open Y AND J for award!!!!!

 >:( >:( >:(

I need the other way.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2014, 09:27:02 AM
And currently UA 90 for Wednsday has open Y AND J for award!!!!!
Lol, saw it and then it was gone when I went to check expert mode :)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 07, 2014, 09:27:52 AM
>:( >:( >:(

I need the other way.
I haven't seen in ages United opening up award availability in J on this route. Last year it was a routine thing for United to open up award availability in J for this route the last minute, this year they release almost nothing.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 07, 2014, 09:34:16 AM
Lol, saw it and then it was gone when I went to check expert mode :)
Yeah, they go fast... there is one lucky guy sitting somewhere now feeling like he won the lottery.

You know the feeling, right?   :D

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 07, 2014, 09:41:10 AM
I haven't seen in ages United opening up award availability in J on this route. Last year it was a routine thing for United to open up award availability in J for this route the last minute, this year they release almost nothing.

I know. I always got them last moment..

Might be stuck now with plan b
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 08, 2014, 09:24:51 AM
Lol, saw it and then it was gone when I went to check expert mode :)
Alive again, 4 seats in IN, 3 seats in I.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 08, 2014, 09:50:04 AM
Alive again, 4 seats in IN, 3 seats in I.

if you see the other way around TLV-NYC let me know. PM me or email me  ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: miles lover on July 08, 2014, 09:50:28 AM

Alive again, 4 seats in IN, 3 seats in I.
for which day(s) ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 08, 2014, 09:51:30 AM
for which day(s) ?

Read upthread.. "Wednesday"
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 08, 2014, 10:24:13 AM
if you see the other way around TLV-NYC let me know. PM me or email me  ;)
Of course  :)

Buy why not set up Plan B?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 08, 2014, 10:32:53 AM
Of course  :)

Buy why not set up Plan B?

I don't even see saver available and I don't have anything booked yet on united.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 08, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
Alive again, 4 seats in IN, 3 seats in I.
Would be great if they are changing policy again.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: runnergirl on July 10, 2014, 09:00:25 AM
On hold right now with UA. Have an award tkt to Israel booked out of EWR on the late flight and want to switch to the early flight. I know in the past they treat is as a change and charge the fee. Any suggestions on how to get around this?  Thanks!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: runnergirl on July 10, 2014, 09:34:05 AM
No answer necessary for the above post - got it all done.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 10, 2014, 09:44:20 AM
July 14/21 has J availability UA direct EWR-TLV.

ETA: and 9+ seats!!!!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: KidOOO on July 11, 2014, 12:36:29 AM
I have an award booked on Austrian with UA miles. However united won't let me choose seats/meal, and the record locator won't come up on checkmytrip.com or Austrian website.

Any idea how to pull it up?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MosheP on July 11, 2014, 12:56:03 AM
I have an award booked on Austrian with UA miles. However united won't let me choose seats/meal, and the record locator won't come up on checkmytrip.com or Austrian website.

Any idea how to pull it up?
Try and pull it up on lufthansa using your UA record locator.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: KidOOO on July 11, 2014, 01:28:48 AM
Try and pull it up on lufthansa using your UA record locator.
Ty that worked.

Anyone know what the kosher food in business is like?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 13, 2014, 12:28:23 AM
Both flights from EWR-TLV for Sunday and Monday have 9+ seats available in J.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 13, 2014, 12:53:40 AM

Both flights from EWR-TLV for Sunday and Monday have 9+ seats available in J.

Wow. Impressive
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Matovu on July 13, 2014, 01:29:42 AM
Why impressive ?
Impressive would be if it was wide open like this when no war would be going on..
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sky121 on July 13, 2014, 01:32:08 AM
Why impressive ?
Impressive would be if it was wide open like this when no war would be going on..
+1
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on July 13, 2014, 01:35:41 AM
I dunno. Just viewed it as impressive. Even in this time to have 9+ open.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 13, 2014, 02:19:35 AM
I dunno. Just viewed it as impressive. Even in this time to have 9+ open.
Well, with a cabin of 50 seats and just 25 are booked you expect them to open 9+seats for award.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: dwkl on July 13, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
as of today 13july both flts are wide open see availability on travel agent computer

14JUL  MON   EWR/EDT     TLV/‡7                               
UA RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **                   
 7UA  84 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9*EWRTLV  445P 1015A‡1 777 0     
         E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9                                     
 8UA  90 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9*EWRTLV 1050P  420P‡1 777 0     
         E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9             
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 17, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
How much does it cost to add a infant on lap?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 17, 2014, 11:33:29 AM
How much does it cost to add a infant on lap?
Domestic - free. Intl - 10% of fare.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 17, 2014, 11:42:13 AM
Domestic - free. Intl - 10% of fare.
Thanks!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: shmooz on July 20, 2014, 12:01:35 AM
Award flights booked with UA on AC to TLV -
do the exceptions they are allowing because of the war allow to change to other  flights that have available seats or only award seats?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 20, 2014, 01:20:29 AM
Award flights booked with UA on AC to TLV -
do the exceptions they are allowing because of the war allow to change to other  flights that have available seats or only award seats?
Only award seats. Though sometimes YMMV, especially with their own operated flights.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bobby on July 20, 2014, 07:11:43 PM
Don't think I've seen this asked but my apologies if it has been. I have 3 tickets booked from SNA to EWR and availability has opened on from LAX to JFK. I would like to switch my tickets and I have no problem paying the 100 dollar change fee. The problem is that I booked all 3 tickets separately (don't ask) and if I try changing them all it will cost 300 dollars. I tried calling United a few times to combine itineraries but they said there's nothing they can do. Do you think a few more HUCAs will help or are there any other ideas to avoid paying 3 changes fees? Thanks.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: sillypainter on July 20, 2014, 07:16:48 PM
Don't think I've seen this asked but my apologies if it has been. I have 3 tickets booked from SNA to EWR and availability has opened on from LAX to JFK. I would like to switch my tickets and I have no problem paying the 100 dollar change fee. The problem is that I booked all 3 tickets separately (don't ask) and if I try changing them all it will cost 300 dollars. I tried calling United a few times to combine itineraries but they said there's nothing they can do. Do you think a few more HUCAs will help or are there any other ideas to avoid paying 3 changes fees? Thanks.

The change fee is per passenger, so it doesn't really matter what your scenario looks like. Try changing the ticket online, they sometimes charge only $50.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 21, 2014, 12:54:45 AM
Wow! July 28/29 TLV-EWR 9+ seats available in business class. \

BTW, DL has great availability for the next few days on this route in business class as well.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 24, 2014, 12:01:42 PM
does the united work around (for close in fee) work for int' flight also?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 24, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
does the united work around (for close in fee) work for int' flight also?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 24, 2014, 12:35:36 PM
Yes.
Sweet
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Thingywingy on July 24, 2014, 12:52:06 PM
does the united work around (for close in fee) work for int' flight also?
whats the work around? Link?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dr Moose on July 24, 2014, 12:58:52 PM
whats the work around? Link?
you should've attended a seminar
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 24, 2014, 01:30:50 PM
you should've attended a seminar
-1 I remember someone either on this thread or a different one that offered to pm details....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: burryhood on July 24, 2014, 02:14:44 PM
does the united work around (for close in fee) work for int' flight also?

What is the close in fee work around please?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Thingywingy on July 24, 2014, 04:54:55 PM
you should've attended a seminar
Do you really think I'm that disloyal to miss it?!! ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Myccrabbi on July 24, 2014, 05:38:03 PM
How long does it take for a domestic flight to get ticketed?
ETA:ticketed less then 5 min
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Thingywingy on July 24, 2014, 07:11:52 PM
How long does it take for a domestic flight to get ticketed?
ETA:ticketed less then 5 min
Whats the nafka mina? Does it only work as long as it's not ticketed?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on July 29, 2014, 04:03:13 PM
Can I book A free one way(in USA) on a UA partner award?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
Can I book A free one way(in USA) on a UA partner award?
Whenever you have a free OW, you can have it with partners as well.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on July 29, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Whenever you have a free OW, you can have it with partners as well.
So when do I have one?  (on LH for VCE-NYC via FRA not giving me)

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 29, 2014, 04:36:47 PM
So when do I have one?  (on LH for VCE-NYC via FRA not giving me)
What's your itinerary? You can have a stopover on a RT, period.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on July 29, 2014, 04:48:21 PM
What's your itinerary? You can have a stopover on a RT, period.

Got it its not RT.

They only showing 5 seats avl, will submitting 2 reservations for say 3 and 3 get me the one more seat?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on July 29, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Got it its not RT.

They only showing 5 seats avl, will submitting 2 reservations for say 3 and 3 get me the one more seat?
No
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: mgarfin on July 30, 2014, 01:46:33 PM
No

What actually happens when 2 ppl try booking the same seat the same time?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on July 30, 2014, 04:05:13 PM
What actually happens when 2 ppl try booking the same seat the same time?
Either one gets it or none get it. Not both.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 30, 2014, 05:55:43 PM
Either one gets it or none get it. Not both.
Though HUCA never disappointed me  ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: helpusout on July 31, 2014, 10:26:27 AM
Do you really think I'm that disloyal to miss it?!! ;)

Anyone care to share?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bubble347 on July 31, 2014, 04:07:20 PM
Can LH M&M book any saver available flight on United?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on July 31, 2014, 04:10:16 PM
Can LH M&M book any saver available flight on United?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: MEIR613 on August 01, 2014, 12:50:14 AM
Yes.
-.05 ;)

Not XN or IN. (I know you know this, but just saying they cant book ALL Saver)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: bruceba on August 01, 2014, 09:44:42 AM
you should've attended a seminar
No seminars in the Bahamas (yet) Could someone pm the work-around on the close-in fee.
Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: EJB on August 01, 2014, 10:03:56 AM
Same. Pm appreciated
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 01, 2014, 11:17:16 AM
-.05 ;)

Not XN or IN. (I know you know this, but just saying they cant book ALL Saver)
Yup.  :) To be clear, whatever is coming up as saver when  you're searching on UA.com and you're not logged in can be booked with M&M.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on August 02, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
9/23-28 EWR-TLV has 9+ seats available in J.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 02, 2014, 11:53:56 PM
9/23-28 EWR-TLV has 9+ seats available in J.
And you know which Holiday comes out on these days  ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on August 02, 2014, 11:56:41 PM
And you know which Holiday comes out on these days  ;)
Yup ;)
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on August 03, 2014, 12:02:43 AM
Curious - are those lie-flat?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 03, 2014, 12:03:54 AM
Curious - are those lie-flat?
Yes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on August 03, 2014, 12:05:04 AM
Yes.
Fancy. I just figured that route wouldn't be the top model.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 03, 2014, 12:05:54 AM
Fancy. I just figured that route wouldn't be the top model.
Why?  ???
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on August 03, 2014, 12:09:32 AM
Why?  ???
I just feel like flights to Israel/tons of Jews get a lower quality product. (And Elal doesn't help the cause too much.) Obviously, I'm wrong and glad to hear it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2014, 12:11:26 AM
EWR-TLV was COs most profitable route.
Probably was COs longest route with twice daily service.

Same plane config that CO has been using on the route for years.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2014, 12:14:17 AM
9/23-28 EWR-TLV has 9+ seats available in J.
Outbound is only useful for extreme daredevils.
Return is gone already.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 03, 2014, 12:17:33 AM
EWR-TLV was COs most profitable route.
Probably was COs longest route with twice daily service.

Same plane config that CO has been using on the route for years.
The fact that DL came out with a much nicer product didn't affect them?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 03, 2014, 12:18:52 AM
Outbound is only useful for extreme daredevils.
Return is gone already.
9/9 had last week 9+ seats in J on TLV-EWR route.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Dan on August 03, 2014, 12:28:01 AM
The fact that DL came out with a much nicer product didn't affect them?
Of course it did.
Hence "was"
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on August 03, 2014, 03:06:29 AM
DL is downgrading (or up?) The route from a 747 to their 777.
UA still has this route twice daily.
I have asked my UA Sales rep why the don't give any waivers on this route, and was answered, well our plans is full anyways, no need to
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: @Yehuda on August 03, 2014, 07:55:10 AM
EWR-TLV was COs most profitable route.
Probably was COs longest route with twice daily service.
I have asked my UA Sales rep why the don't give any waivers on this route, and was answered, well our plans is full anyways, no need to
All that is kinda my point. The seats are going to sell anyway, so I thought that the airline's mindset might be, "Well, why should we waste our money on keeping these planes up-to-date as people will still buy these seats anyway?"
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on August 03, 2014, 08:27:24 AM
All that is kinda my point. The seats are going to sell anyway, so I thought that the airline's mindset might be, "Well, why should we waste our money on keeping these planes up-to-date as people will still buy these seats anyway?"
They are as up to date as all United aircrafts.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on August 03, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
Is booking from ur mileage plus account to another person (different last name) a problem?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on August 03, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
Is booking from ur mileage plus account to another person (different last name) a problem?
Generally not.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on August 03, 2014, 12:50:48 PM
Generally not.
Tnx.
I guess it means I shouldn't push it too much....
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: helpusout on August 06, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
Hi, I booked 2 tickets on United with a paid fare, since award wasnt available.
I see upgrades are available for 17,500 +$125 per ticket, each way, is there any way to get them to waive the $125 fee? It doesnt make sense to have such a large fee??
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: jaywhy on August 06, 2014, 02:29:43 PM
Hi, I booked 2 tickets on United with a paid fare, since award wasnt available.
I see upgrades are available for 17,500 +$125 per ticket, each way, is there any way to get them to waive the $125 fee? It doesnt make sense to have such a large fee??
Lol. Get status with UA or buy full fare.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on August 06, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
Hi, I booked 2 tickets on United with a paid fare, since award wasnt available.
I see upgrades are available for 17,500 +$125 per ticket, each way, is there any way to get them to waive the $125 fee? It doesnt make sense to have such a large fee??

Welcome to UA. The $125 charge is not a fee. It is part of the upgrade cost. Wont get them to waive it as it is not a fee..

Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on August 06, 2014, 02:51:49 PM
Welcome to UA. The $125 charge is not a fee. It is part of the upgrade cost. Wont get them to waive it as it is not a fee..

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/mileageplus/awards/travel/awardTravel.aspx (http://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/mileageplus/awards/travel/awardTravel.aspx)
"Co-pays" can be up to $600 per way
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: helpusout on August 06, 2014, 11:22:01 PM
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/mileageplus/awards/travel/awardTravel.aspx (http://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/mileageplus/awards/travel/awardTravel.aspx)
"Co-pays" can be up to $600 per way

What a scam! Also I see they have bigger seats economy plus for $50 /ticket .Is that worth it
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chff on August 06, 2014, 11:23:35 PM
What a scam! Also I see they have bigger seats economy plus for $50 /ticket .Is that worth it
Just more legroom
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: chucksterace on August 06, 2014, 11:39:19 PM
What a scam! Also I see they have bigger seats economy plus for $50 /ticket .Is that worth it

Not a scam. Just their version of "Upgrades". They are allowed to do what they want. If others fall for it, good.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Matovu on August 07, 2014, 12:07:40 AM
I booked a United flight and put it on hold using the paypal trick.
What am gaining with the hold ?
If i cancel because i found a better cheaper deal they wont charge me anything ? Will they not deduct the miles if i do nothing ?
Since i have enough miles in my account what is the point.

Please reply
Thanks
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ckmk47 on August 10, 2014, 08:34:39 PM
I booked a United flight and put it on hold using the paypal trick.
What am gaining with the hold ?
If i cancel because i found a better cheaper deal they wont charge me anything ? Will they not deduct the miles if i do nothing ?
Since i have enough miles in my account what is the point.

Please reply
Thanks
If you cancel, you lost nothing.  If you have the points and are happy with the ticket, you don't gain anything by holding it.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Matovu on August 11, 2014, 12:55:28 AM
If you cancel, you lost nothing.  If you have the points and are happy with the ticket, you don't gain anything by holding it.

But i think theres a service charge anyway.
Am i wrong ?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: Mech on August 11, 2014, 05:18:35 PM
I am now on a united flight from ewr to lax. They just showed the new safety video that came out last week. It's gotta be the stupidest most corny video ever!!
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on August 14, 2014, 08:09:20 PM
This isn't entirely a United question so forgive if its the wrong topic,

I'm looking to book a SN ticket OW in J, TLV-JFK.
Now ANA online & UA on the phone tell me its unavailable in J while AC have confirmed availability for 82.5k.

What gives???
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
This isn't entirely a United question so forgive if its the wrong topic,

I'm looking to book a SN ticket OW in J, TLV-JFK.
Now ANA online & UA on the phone tell me its unavailable in J while AC have confirmed availability for 82.5k.

What gives???
Date?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on August 14, 2014, 08:12:11 PM
Date?
Sorry

10/5
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on August 14, 2014, 08:44:45 PM
This might have been discussed before I just couldn't find it.
What's the difference in the fees that united charges for booking tickets, besides the $75 21 day fee. like a (economy saver) ticket from ewr to nyc next week can be 42k points plus $119 or other times more money.
So what's the rule?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 08:46:24 PM
This might have been discussed before I just couldn't find it.
What's the difference in the fees that united charges for booking tickets, besides the $75 21 day fee. like a (economy saver) ticket from ewr to nyc next week can be 42k points plus $119 or other times more money.
So what's the rule?
Taxes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 08:50:33 PM
Sorry

10/5
HUCA United. It's available on ANA.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 08:52:21 PM
HUCA United. It's available on ANA.
And its available on UA.com as well  :-X :-X   ???
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on August 14, 2014, 08:52:36 PM
Taxes.
That simple? So why is different at times?
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 08:53:32 PM
That simple? So why is different at times?
Each airport/town/city has different taxes.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on August 14, 2014, 08:55:35 PM
Each airport/town/city has different taxes.
Hmmm one flight with a stop in fra is $153 & the other (just a longer stop) is $175
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 09:41:50 PM
Hmmm one flight with a stop in fra is $153 & the other (just a longer stop) is $175
Again, dates please.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on August 14, 2014, 09:47:59 PM
Again, dates please.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: ilherman on August 14, 2014, 10:03:03 PM

You can see that the difference is by the Germany Airport Security Charge I believe the difference is that on the first flight the operating carrier is UA and on the second flight the operating carrier is LH.
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: clear thinker on August 14, 2014, 11:08:25 PM
You can see that the difference is by the Germany Airport Security Charge I believe the difference is that on the first flight the operating carrier is UA and on the second flight the operating carrier is LH.
If u say so
Title: Re: United award flights
Post by: efflpetzel on August 14, 2014, 11:08:25 PM
HUCA United. It's available on ANA.
this is what I'm seeing on ANA unless I'm searching wrong

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3875/14735710090_c6a1bc9366_o.png)



And its available on UA.com as well  :-X :-X   ???
I HUCA'd UA twice, both times they tell me TLV-BRU is available in J, BRU-JFK only in coach, are we looking at the same dates???
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