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Title: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 16, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
Before i start talking about the actual playoffs, Kobe injured, lebron, are the Knicks for real, did anyone say Denver, 

Can we first talk about the ridiculous signings.
Spurs sign Tracy McGrady?!?! He will not score 15 in 35 seconds ever again
Knicks sign Q rich?! Is this serious?! When's shaq gonna come out of retirement.


Whats your thoughts.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on April 17, 2013, 09:27:08 AM
Before i start talking about the actual playoffs, Kobe injured, lebron, are the Knicks for real, did anyone say Denver, 

Can we first talk about the ridiculous signings.
Spurs sign Tracy McGrady?!?! He will not score 15 in 35 seconds ever again
Knicks sign Q rich?! Is this serious?! When's shaq gonna come out of retirement.


Whats your thoughts.

The T-Mac signing is just to replace Stephen Jackson, who they waived. Totally legit signing. They can do with him exactly what they did with Jackson last year. The games that he played and played well they put him out there for 25 minutes or more. Otherwise he played minimally. Worst case for them they just sit him. It's not like they're planning to start him or anything, their 2 and 3 spots are pretty well spoken for.

ETA: and re denver - They better keep an eye on that injury to Faried. That's a pretty important piece for them.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 20, 2013, 04:04:44 PM
Jeff green is a great story.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 20, 2013, 04:15:57 PM
Anyone watching the games (i guess no US ppl are) but when will Anthony realize if hes cold to just give up the ball. And create for others.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 21, 2013, 12:03:49 AM
Anyone watching the games (i guess no US ppl are) but when will Anthony realize if hes cold to just give up the ball. And create for others.
He was on fire today.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: smurf on April 21, 2013, 01:08:02 AM
He was on fire today.
13 of 29 is on fire?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 21, 2013, 01:10:50 AM
13 of 29 is on fire?
36 points and 6 rebounds is. 4-6 from 3pt range.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 02:51:21 AM
I knew someone would say that.  He was dreadful to watch two nice plays one clutch pass. You ppl think hes good?!?  Watch the game and ull see how bad he truly was; and how bad the Knicks played. Down the stretch the celts missed way to many open shots.

Kg was off
The jet - just didnt take off. He was shutting so many threes late...he coulnt bug a basket.
and to top it all off they have no PG

NOW into my nets....they played steller ball! And to the topper, Dwill going up for reverse DUNK on a steal!!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: wierdal832 on April 21, 2013, 09:25:07 AM
13 of 29 is on fire?

thats melos numbers, he shots abt 45%, which is not amazing but you take it.. he scores at will
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 21, 2013, 09:38:54 AM
I knew someone would say that.  He was dreadful to watch two nice plays one clutch pass. You ppl think hes good?!?  Watch the game and ull see how bad he truly was; and how bad the Knicks played. Down the stretch the celts missed way to many open shots.

Kg was off
The jet - just didnt take off. He was shutting so many threes late...he coulnt bug a basket.
and to top it all off they have no PG

NOW into my nets....they played steller ball! And to the topper, Dwill going up for reverse DUNK on a steal!!
net fans....
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
net fans....
Yes. But i still think Melos performance was tragic. He did not score on anyone's will last night. He was very off last night. Kmart i think though was an amazing defensive pickup.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 21, 2013, 02:24:26 PM
Yes. But i still think Melos performance was tragic. He did not score on anyone's will last night. He was very off last night. Kmart i think though was an amazing defensive pickup.
::) did you see the 1st quarter???
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: wierdal832 on April 21, 2013, 02:35:42 PM
::) did you see the 1st quarter???

+1
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 03:39:06 PM
+1
you mean the first 4 shots! yes i did!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 21, 2013, 07:56:42 PM
you mean the first 4 shots! yes i did!
get back to me after game 2 when bulls demolish nets, or in 2nd rd when the nets will be hiding from prokorovs hitmen
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 08:14:44 PM
get back to me after game 2 when bulls demolish nets, or in 2nd rd when the nets will be hiding from prokorovs hitmen
like lebron said. Thank god they lost the streak with ample time bec when a team has a winning streak and looses. They go on a bad kissing streak. Look at the spurs a few yrs ago in the playoffs 20 straight 10 reg season 10 postseason and lost 4 straight to he thunder

And lastly. The nets are lucky. Everyone is injured in Chicago. Noah's banged up. Heinrich hurt his knee late in the game. Rose....  Boozer is he only one. Oh and good ole Nate
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 21, 2013, 08:18:35 PM
like lebron said. Thank god they lost the streak with ample time bec when a team has a winning streak and looses. They go on a bad kissing streak. Look at the spurs a few yrs ago in the playoffs 20 straight 10 reg season 10 postseason and lost 4 straight to he thunder

And lastly. The nets are lucky. Everyone is injured in Chicago. Noah's banged up. Heinrich hurt his knee late in the game. Rose....  Boozer is he only one. Oh and good ole Nate
knicks didnt look like they are slowing down... only thing that will hinder their playoff progression is injuries, when they are playing their A game they can beat any1, like we saw throughout the season.

so u agree nets are lucky.. so y u so high on them?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 08:23:14 PM
knicks didnt look like they are slowing down... only thing that will hinder their playoff progression is injuries, when they are playing their A game they can beat any1, like we saw throughout the season.

so u agree nets are lucky.. so y u so high on them?
every great team will find a whole. The Knicks did not look good last night. They only pulled away in the forth. Till 9 min left Boston was still in it. Scoring 36 points and shooting 29 of the 56 shots of your team is not a good game.

I am high on the nets bec im a fan :-). I never ever said there gonna win it all. I just like the game they play. Yes, i loved it when we had the old team. Kidd, Kmart, Jefferson, kittles, that team was real, they had a real PG who knew what it meant to be a pg = distribute the ball. But dwill is fun to watch. So i like em. And they might loose next round to Mia but the season was a very promising one. ESP under interem choked coach PJ.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 21, 2013, 08:35:01 PM
every great team will find a whole. The Knicks did not look good last night. They only pulled away in the forth. Till 9 min left Boston was still in it. Scoring 36 points and shooting 29 of the 56 shots of your team is not a good game.

I am high on the nets bec im a fan :-). I never ever said there gonna win it all. I just like the game they play. Yes, i loved it when we had the old team. Kidd, Kmart, Jefferson, kittles, that team was real, they had a real PG who knew what it meant to be a pg = distribute the ball. But dwill is fun to watch. So i like em. And they might loose next round to Mia but the season was a very promising one. ESP under interem choked coach PJ.
you by any chance a met fan?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 02:44:25 AM
you by any chance a met fan?
baseball is a pastime. When one is bored. I try never to be that bored!

Buy yes :P why
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 09:56:19 AM
baseball is a pastime. When one is bored. I try never to be that bored!

Buy yes :P why
all the net fans I've come across are also met fans. Similar fans, get excited over small stupid things
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 11:00:53 AM
all the net fans I've come across are also met fans. Similar fans, get excited over small stupid things
You say little things. But the nets were an amazing team those days. Missing that one piece called a center, Jason Collins did not do it.

And seems like the knick fans really think they can win it all under a 16-29 shooting from thier best, and 7-19 shooting from the sixth man if the yr...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
You say little things. But the nets were an amazing team those days. Missing that one piece called a center, Jason Collins did not do it.

And seems like the knick fans really think they can win it all under a 16-29 shooting from thier best, and 7-19 shooting from the sixth man if the yr...
little  things like every "next big thing" prospect mets ever had (B4 Matt Harvey & recent prospects ,)  (Alex Escobar, lastings millidge, etc etc.) comparing wright Reyes to jeter cano. Piazza. Pedro. Johan. Met fans get all excited and talk and talk and talk. Don't get me wrong, Yankees have had their share of busts in the past, but atleast they have 5 rings to show for it. While mets spending almost same amount of $ as Yankees, have nothing to show.

a W is a W,  pretty or not. We'll see in 2nd round. Like I said b4, if healthy Knicks Are legit .
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on April 22, 2013, 11:33:46 AM
... While mets spending almost same amount of $ as Yankees, have nothing to show...

Let's not get carried away here. The Yanks have spent an average of $100m+ more than the Mets over the last 10 seasons.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 01:03:57 PM
little  things like every "next big thing" prospect mets ever had (B4 Matt Harvey & recent prospects ,)  (Alex Escobar, lastings millidge, etc etc.) comparing wright Reyes to jeter cano. Piazza. Pedro. Johan. Met fans get all excited and talk and talk and talk. Don't get me wrong, Yankees have had their share of busts in the past, but atleast they have 5 rings to show for it. While mets spending almost same amount of $ as Yankees, have nothing to show.

a W is a W,  pretty or not. We'll see in 2nd round. Like I said b4, if healthy Knicks Are legit .

scott kazmir too
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 01:12:25 PM
whoa whoa! piazza was brilliant here, and pedro def was a good buy, johan was a disaster, and most of the other has beens they have gotten, thank gd the vladimer garrero trade fell thru at the last second!

what little things do the nets fans have to be happy about? we have a top five PG, and a very very good establishing Center... yes joe Johnson is a bit overrated, and wallace is very streaky, but dwill?

did you forget this play?!

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 22, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
all the net fans I've come across are also met fans. Similar fans, get excited over small stupid things
Im a Met fan and I definitely dont get excited over small things. I have learned the hard way. Although I am excited for Matt Harvey  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 22, 2013, 01:30:29 PM
whoa whoa! piazza was brilliant here, and pedro def was a good buy, johan was a disaster, and most of the other has beens they have gotten, thank gd the vladimer garrero trade fell thru at the last second!

what little things do the nets fans have to be happy about? we have a top five PG, and a very very good establishing Center... yes joe Johnson is a bit overrated, and wallace is very streaky, but dwill?

did you forget this play?!


You cant say Johan was a disaster he gave us 2 good seasons and a no hitter so worth all the money we paid him  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on April 22, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
Still off topic- but can't have any Mets FA acquisition sessions without mentioning 2 players: Bobby Bonilla (still on the payroll) and Mo Vaughn.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 22, 2013, 01:58:21 PM
Still off topic- but can't have any Mets bashing sessions without mentioning 2 players: Bobby Bonilla (still on the payroll) and Mo Vaughn.
+1 cant argue there
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 01:58:34 PM

did you forget this play?!


did you forget the first half of the season?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 02:01:03 PM

what little things do the nets fans have to be happy about? we have a top five PG, and a very very good establishing Center... yes joe Johnson is a bit overrated, and wallace is very streaky, but dwill?

exaclty my point! you guys get all hyped up over a slightly above average center! u guys talk about him like hes the next shaq!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on April 22, 2013, 02:08:08 PM
exaclty my point! you guys get all hyped up over a slightly above average center! u guys talk about him like hes the next shaq!

He is a good/very good offensive player, but its telling when a 7 footer who gets heavy minutes has never averaged over 8 and a half rebounds per game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 02:14:25 PM
exaclty my point! you guys get all hyped up over a slightly above average center! u guys talk about him like hes the next shaq!
You kidding me? Yes tyce is great. But Brooke is a very good second!!  Hes only 3rd yr in the league
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on April 22, 2013, 02:19:53 PM
He is a good/very good offensive player, but its telling when a 7 footer who gets heavy minutes has never averaged over 8 and a half rebounds per game.

Agree with the sentiment, if not with the details. He's more like an elite (top 5) isolation post scorer, but he's not particularly good at scoring in the flow of the offense. Plus, he actually doesn't play enough minutes, he doesn't have the stamina. But the rebounding is the worst of all. This season he ranked 54th in the NBA in rebounds per 48 minutes among players who played at least 70 games.

You kidding me? Yes tyce is great. But Brooke is a very good second!!  Hes only 3rd yr in the league

This is his 5th year in the NBA, including last year when he only played a few games. He's not a growing talent, what you see is what you get.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
Let's not get carried away here. The Yanks have spent an average of $100m+ more than the Mets over the last 10 seasons.
http://www.stevetheump.com/Payrolls.htm#team payrolls
Just to Recap:
From '98-'01 Yankees payroll was from 7 -  16 million more than mets, mets payroll was in top 9 in league.
Rings: Yankees 3 Mets 0

From '02-'03 Payroll difference was 30-35 million.
In '02 mets had 6th highest payroll.
Reg season record: Yankees 103-58 (1st place) Mets 75-86

In '03 mets had 2nd highest payroll
Reg season record: Yankees 101-61 (1st place) Mets 66-95

From '04-'10 Steinbrenner went bezerk (not an excuse) and Yankee payroll avg from 70-100 Million more than Mets. Mets payroll however, still remained in top 5. '08-'09 They had 2nd highest payroll.
Rings: Yankees 1 Mets 0

I can go on and on...

'Nuff said  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 02:27:18 PM
Agree with the sentiment, if not with the details. He's more like an elite (top 5) isolation post scorer, but he's not particularly good at scoring in the flow of the offense. Plus, he actually doesn't play enough minutes, he doesn't have the stamina. But the rebounding is the worst of all. This season he ranked 54th in the NBA in rebounds per 48 minutes among players who played at least 70 games.

This is his 5th year in the NBA, including last year when he only played a few games. He's not a growing talent, what you see is what you get.
+100 my point exactly
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 02:54:53 PM
+100 my point exactly
what?! He def is growing. He was never so aggressive. How can you say that? Dwill has said numerous times how he "will not pass the ball" to brook on the perimeter.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 02:57:10 PM
what?! He def is growing. He was never so aggressive. How can you say that? Dwill has said numerous times how he "will not pass the ball" to brook on the perimeter.
here we go again... he is at his max potential. period.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on April 22, 2013, 03:01:45 PM
http://www.stevetheump.com/Payrolls.htm#team payrolls
Just to Recap:
From '98-'01 Yankees payroll was from 7 -  16 million more than mets, mets payroll was in top 9 in league.
Rings: Yankees 3 Mets 0

From '02-'03 Payroll difference was 30-35 million.
In '02 mets had 6th highest payroll.
Reg season record: Yankees 103-58 (1st place) Mets 75-86

In '03 mets had 2nd highest payroll
Reg season record: Yankees 101-61 (1st place) Mets 66-95

From '04-'10 Steinbrenner went bezerk (not an excuse) and Yankee payroll avg from 70-100 Million more than Mets. Mets payroll however, still remained in top 5. '08-'09 They had 2nd highest payroll.
Rings: Yankees 1 Mets 0

I can go on and on...

'Nuff said  :)

You said "...mets spending almost same amount of $ as Yankees, have nothing to show." I am not a Mets fan and don't really care about the Yankees-Mets 'scoreboard' you seem to be keeping over there. But don't pretend that anyone else in the league spends nearly what the Yankees spend on a consistent basis. You linked to the exact site I got my numbers from, and if you go there and do the math you'll see that my response to you (" The Yanks have spent an average of $100m+ more than the Mets over the last 10 seasons.") is 100% true. Don't tell me about what number team they each were in spending, if the difference between 1 and 2 is $50m, that's still a massive gap.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 03:19:46 PM
You said "...mets spending almost same amount of $ as Yankees, have nothing to show." I am not a Mets fan and don't really care about the Yankees-Mets 'scoreboard' you seem to be keeping over there. But don't pretend that anyone else in the league spends nearly what the Yankees spend on a consistent basis. You linked to the exact site I got my numbers from, and if you go there and do the math you'll see that my response to you (" The Yanks have spent an average of $100m+ more than the Mets over the last 10 seasons.") is 100% true. Don't tell me about what number team they each were in spending, if the difference between 1 and 2 is $50m, that's still a massive gap.
yes but to miss the playoffs or finish in last place twice with the 2nd highest payroll??
mets spent millions and didnt even contend!
look at what redsox spent in the early '00's... pretty darn close to the yankess.. got 2 rings... mets 0. THEY DIDNT EVEN CONTEND!!!!!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on April 22, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
yes but to miss the playoffs or finish in last place twice with the 2nd highest payroll??
mets spent millions and didnt even contend!
look at what redsox spent in the early '00's... pretty darn close to the yankess.. got 2 rings... mets 0. THEY DIDNT EVEN CONTEND!!!!!

I'm not defending the Mets, I have no horse in this race. I'm just correcting your wildly untrue statement.

And while we're on the topic, the current Yankee dynasty had the most success before they started spending crazy money. That's not to say they weren't the highest payroll or close to it, but it was within normal amounts of what other big market teams were spending. They didn't crack $100m till 2001, and coincidentally they've won 'only' once (which of course is plenty good, but not to the level of the 5 years before that). To be fair, they had to start paying the great players who one them those 1990's WS's top dollar, but the handing out huge contracts to every star they could get their hands on seemed to set them back, instead of continuing the dynasty.

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 22, 2013, 03:42:32 PM

And while we're on the topic, the current Yankee dynasty had the most success before they started spending crazy money. That's not to say they weren't the highest payroll or close to it, but it was within normal amounts of what other big market teams were spending. They didn't crack $100m till 2001, and coincidentally they've won 'only' once (which of course is plenty good, but not to the level of the 5 years before that). To be fair, they had to start paying the great players who one them those 1990's WS's top dollar, but the handing out huge contracts to every star they could get their hands on seemed to set them back, instead of continuing the dynasty.
couldnt agree more.. The Boss was desperate
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on April 22, 2013, 03:50:18 PM
couldnt agree more.. The Boss was desperate

+1. The only prayer is if ARod is implicated in one of these passing steroids scandals and the yankees are somehow able to get out of his contract.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2013, 05:02:57 PM
+1. The only prayer is if ARod is implicated in one of these passing steroids scandals and the yankees are somehow able to get out of his contract.
There's an out for steroid use?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 05:06:32 PM
There's an out for steroid use?
yes, it voids the whole contract, its like football players arent allowed to play basketball and so on
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2013, 05:09:11 PM
yes, it voids the whole contract, its like football players arent allowed to play basketball and so on
The steroid stuff was from before this contract, no?
I doubt there's gonna be an out for that situation.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on April 22, 2013, 05:21:34 PM
The steroid stuff was from before this contract, no?
I doubt there's gonna be an out for that situation.

It might not be for using steroids, but injuries related to it. See below( was in an ESPN article). Or even personal conduct clauses.

"The paragraph does not preclude a club from taking further action against a player who is unable to play because of injury or disability "resulting directly from a physical injury or mental condition arising from his violation of the Program" and allows a club to withhold a player's salary if he is unable to play due to legal proceedings or incarceration due to a drug violation."

As I said earlier, its a prayer.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
Very shaky.
Don't see how you'll prove in court that the current injury is directly related to steroid use years ago.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 05:38:37 PM
Very shaky.
Don't see how you'll prove in court that the current injury is directly related to steroid use years ago.
not sure, but every sports radio host (espn, wfan) all say if they find somehow that arod was on steroids, the contracts void, not sure why...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on April 27, 2013, 10:22:13 PM
@rots5 eating your words yet?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 27, 2013, 10:24:29 PM
How about DaBulls?  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shreknit on April 27, 2013, 10:33:04 PM
How about DaBulls?  :)

Love them miss the old Jordan days, but d rose is the man!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 27, 2013, 10:36:13 PM
Love them miss the old Jordan days, but d rose is the man!
Hate to say it but IMHO they should trade him. His body just can't take the beating.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 27, 2013, 10:42:25 PM
Hate to say it but IMHO they should trade him. His body just can't take the beating.
What does that mean? He wont get a beating anywhere else? and what beating are you referring to?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 27, 2013, 10:47:21 PM
What does that mean? He wont get a beating anywhere else? and what beating are you referring to?
It means he is injury prone. Trade him now while he has great value. Let him get hurt somewhere else next year.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 27, 2013, 11:00:15 PM
It means he is injury prone. Trade him now while he has great value. Let him get hurt somewhere else next year.  :)
Gotcha.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: wierdal832 on April 28, 2013, 02:16:01 AM
Love them miss the old Jordan days, but d rose is the man!

U do know that he hasn't played all season
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: wierdal832 on April 28, 2013, 02:18:53 AM
It means he is injury prone. Trade him now while he has great value. Let him get hurt somewhere else next year.  :)

Dude ur insane. He's an elite player! Just cuz he sat for a yr means nothing. Mayb the Vikings should have also traded ap after he got hurt.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 28, 2013, 02:31:11 AM
@rots5 eating your words yet?
yes i am :'(. So sad. When Gerald Wallace says he doesn't know his role, its over. :(. That 5 sec call at the end of the game. And the missed FT's and the bad shooting. Its gonna do it.

#feelworseforthunderfans.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 28, 2013, 07:45:17 AM
Dude ur insane. He's an elite player! Just cuz he sat for a yr means nothing. Mayb the Vikings should have also traded ap after he got hurt.
You act like this is his first injury.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shreknit on April 28, 2013, 08:04:21 AM
U do know that he hasn't played all season

Yes I'm very aware but he truly is the man.


and cv this is for you :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shreknit on April 28, 2013, 08:26:22 AM
You act like this is his first injury.

The ACL was a big deal everything else is just sprains which every player gets the media likes to play up the top players IMHO
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 28, 2013, 10:02:21 AM
I think with rosť this yr Te bulls would be an elite team! 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shreknit on April 28, 2013, 10:14:43 AM
I think with rosť this yr Te bulls would be an elite team!
+1
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 28, 2013, 04:00:22 PM
9-33 shooting u gonna call good?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 28, 2013, 04:03:48 PM
9-33 shooting u gonna call good?!?!?!?!?
i rly dont think nets fans should be talking on this forum right now
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 28, 2013, 04:05:24 PM
i rly dont think nets fans should be talking on this forum right now
why?! My nets are brutal... I can admit it. R
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 28, 2013, 07:15:09 PM
why?! My nets are brutal... I can admit it. R
knicks are up 3-1, beat them comfortably in 1st 3 games. came back from a huge deficit to almost win all while missing their 2nd leading scorer... and you decided that theyre the same as nets?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 28, 2013, 07:17:21 PM
why?! My nets are brutal... I can admit it. R
" we have a top five PG, and a very very good establishing Center... yes joe Johnson is a bit overrated, and wallace is very streaky, but dwill?

did you forget this play?! "
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 28, 2013, 08:00:00 PM
9-33 shooting u gonna call good?!?!?!?!?
He definitely had a bad game nobody will argue but even on a bad game he scores 36 and thats not my point. Point is how can you bash someone like Melo? Guy is the best scorer in the league and bec today he didn't shoot well your gonna bash him?? cant do that.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 28, 2013, 09:24:17 PM
He definitely had a bad game nobody will argue but even on a bad game he scores 36 and thats not my point. Point is how can you bash someone like Melo? Guy is the best scorer in the league and bec today he didn't shoot well your gonna bash him?? cant do that.
+100
#jealousfanmentality
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 29, 2013, 03:09:36 AM
I bash him bec thats not a good player shooting 10-33.

I didnt compare to my nets. I was admiting there having a horrible series right now. That's all. I am not saying the Knicks are riding there run right now. And its a good one. But u can't tell me melo is such a good player bec he scores 36 on 33 shots! Thats not a good player...that's a player will score bec he shoot a freak load. Are you going to tell me that lebron is not as good bec he only scored 30 points last night....or hes amazing bec he scored 30 on 13-20 shooting?!?  You knick fans have messed up views on whats considered a good shooter/scorer.

I am not jealous. I had kid, and Kmart ;) and i will still hold to my statement. Dwill is up there and Johnson is a bit overrated. Brook is a great center and Wallace is just lost.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on April 29, 2013, 07:58:26 AM
Who would you rather have dwill or melo?

Which team would you rather have?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 29, 2013, 08:20:15 AM
I bash him bec thats not a good player shooting 10-33.

I didnt compare to my nets. I was admiting there having a horrible series right now. That's all. I am not saying the Knicks are riding there run right now. And its a good one. But u can't tell me melo is such a good player bec he scores 36 on 33 shots! Thats not a good player...that's a player will score bec he shoot a freak load. Are you going to tell me that lebron is not as good bec he only scored 30 points last night....or hes amazing bec he scored 30 on 13-20 shooting?!?  You knick fans have messed up views on whats considered a good shooter/scorer.

I am not jealous. I had kid, and Kmart ;) and i will still hold to my statement. Dwill is up there and Johnson is a bit overrated. Brook is a great center and Wallace is just lost.
no1 is saying melo had a good game, I'd be 1st to admit he had a horrible game, couldn't buy a jump shot, but when he's on (and usually is) he's one the best scores in the league .

And plz plz plz, get over brook Lopez!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 29, 2013, 09:56:53 AM
I bash him bec thats not a good player shooting 10-33.

I didnt compare to my nets. I was admiting there having a horrible series right now. That's all. I am not saying the Knicks are riding there run right now. And its a good one. But u can't tell me melo is such a good player bec he scores 36 on 33 shots! Thats not a good player...that's a player will score bec he shoot a freak load. Are you going to tell me that lebron is not as good bec he only scored 30 points last night....or hes amazing bec he scored 30 on 13-20 shooting?!?  You knick fans have messed up views on whats considered a good shooter/scorer.

I am not jealous. I had kid, and Kmart ;) and i will still hold to my statement. Dwill is up there and Johnson is a bit overrated. Brook is a great center and Wallace is just lost.
Excuse me are you going to tell me that he is not good because of one bad game?? Jordan shoy 9-35 in 97 playoffs are you going to say he is not good either? Im not comparing Melo to Jordan, but you cannot say Melo is not good
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 29, 2013, 09:47:27 PM
Now after nets won  were gonna hear from rots5 how nets r goin all the way...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 01:42:26 AM
Now after nets won  were gonna hear from rots5 how nets r goin all the way...
whoa whoa. I never ever said they were going all the way. I never said there better than the Knicks. I just can't stand how u knick fans think melo is such an amazing player...and yes we suffered with Jason Collins :-( lol
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 07:18:24 AM
whoa whoa. I never ever said they were going all the way. I never said there better than the Knicks. I just can't stand how u knick fans think melo is such an amazing player...and yes we suffered with Jason Collins :-( lol
Why shouldn't we think Melo is an amazing player?? Are you nuts?! the guy won the scoring title this year! he is a top 5 player in the NBA.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 07:49:47 AM
he is a top 5 player in the NBA.
If you had to build a team around a player would he be one of them?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 07:51:31 AM
If you had to build a team around a player would he be one of them?
not even a little!

chris paul
tim dunkin
kobe
kevin durrant
dwight/lebron
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on April 30, 2013, 08:14:50 AM
Kobe, at this stage in his career, with his injury?
Dwight/lebron  are you not sure about Lebron? Did you see Dwight play this year.
What about dwade? Rose?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 08:21:43 AM
Kobe, at this stage in his career, with his injury?
Dwight/lebron  are you not sure about Lebron? Did you see Dwight play this year.
What about dwade? Rose?
dwane is not great with other stars and kobe is still kobe  hes a veteran. i would maybe let lebran play the point but then again theres always kyree

rose still has to prove himself, its like revis, a gamble
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 30, 2013, 08:29:14 AM
whoa whoa. I never ever said they were going all the way. I never said there better than the Knicks. I just can't stand how u knick fans think melo is such an amazing player...and yes we suffered with Jason Collins :-( lol
ur right melo is terrible  ::)
Did u net fans forget how pumped u were when there were rumors that nets would get him? #jealousnetfans
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 08:45:38 AM
ur right melo is terrible  ::)
Did u net fans forget how pumped u were when there were rumors that nets would get him? #jealousnetfans
not at all!! I am not a melo fan. Was very happy with kids Kmart Jefferson. :-)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 30, 2013, 09:15:49 AM
not at all!! I am not a melo fan. Was very happy with kids Kmart Jefferson. :-)
time to move on
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on April 30, 2013, 09:32:29 AM
dwane is not great with other stars and kobe is still kobe  hes a veteran. i would maybe let lebran play the point but then again theres always kyree

rose still has to prove himself, its like revis, a gamble
Kobe at age 38 doesn't need to probe himself, but rose does? And you'd consider not starting Lebron? I think I'd find another coach
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 09:38:21 AM
Kobe at age 38 doesn't need to probe himself, but rose does? And you'd consider not starting Lebron? I think I'd find another coach
kobe knows the game. Hes just simply the best. And no, lebran start. I meant theres six players. Not sure which 5.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on April 30, 2013, 09:56:55 AM
If you had to build a team around a player would he be one of them?

Rots, I think you misunderstood the question. This would not be pick 5 guys to make the best possible team, rather to rank who would be the best player to build a team around. I believe CV was posing the question, are there at least 5 guys who you would choose individually to build a team around before Carmelo (CV, CMIIW). That would determine whether he's a top 5 guy. I'm sure that doesn't change your answer though, so...

As far as your starting 5 (well... 6) in no way, shape, or form should Kobe be on that list. He sustained an injury that basically signals the end for him. If he's even ready to start next season, it'll take him at least a year to get back into top playing form (and that's optimistic given all the other big names that have gone through the same thing - usually at much younger ages). I'm not counting on Kobe producing to even all star levels in his 19th season, at age 36.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 09:57:23 AM
not even a little!

chris paul
tim dunkin
kobe
kevin durrant
dwight/lebron
DWIGHT??!! not a chance buddy. your gonna bash Melo for 1 bad game, did you see Dwights season?? and you cant compare duncan bec he is very old. right at this point I would take Melo in duncans prime I would have taken him, but not right now.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 09:58:01 AM
If you had to build a team around a player would he be one of them?
Umm yes, the Knicks did and look where they are.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on April 30, 2013, 10:13:50 AM
Umm yes, the Knicks did and look where they are.

I wouldn't say look where they are yet, bc they haven't made it out of the first round yet. Lets wait another round or two.

BUT Melo has carried the team this year (career year) and needs to be in any top player discussion.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:29:40 AM
I wouldn't say look where they are yet, bc they haven't made it out of the first round yet. Lets wait another round or two.

BUT Melo has carried the team this year (career year) and needs to be in any top player discussion.
They will beat Boston and compared to how they were the past 12 years I would say look where they are. Melo has always been a top player and this year he was even better than normal. for Rots5 to say he is not good is just ridiculous he can say he doesnt like him, but to write him off like that is insane IMO
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
I wouldn't say look where they are yet, bc they haven't made it out of the first round yet. Lets wait another round or two.

BUT Melo has carried the team this year (career year) and needs to be in any top player discussion.
How many yrs is melo in league? How many yrs did he come top 5 in scoring in the NBA?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:31:53 AM
Rots, I think you misunderstood the question. This would not be pick 5 guys to make the best possible team, rather to rank who would be the best player to build a team around. I believe CV was posing the question, are there at least 5 guys who you would choose individually to build a team around before Carmelo (CV, CMIIW).
There seems to be four or five members here that speak my language.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 10:35:54 AM
I don't think hes not good. I think i said it that way, yes...i don't think he's a great. That's all. All you knick fans love him this yr but what happened to the first, what was it 3 seasons in NY?! He pulled an arod and sucked. You guys would've given him away for free basically. Now that he shoots 35 shots a game and scores 30 points all of a sudden hes a great!!???  Hes amazing?!  C'mon be realistic. Hes good but he ain't no great! 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:38:12 AM
How many yrs is melo in league? How many yrs did he come top 5 in scoring in the NBA?
He is in the league since 03-04 and he averages 25 ppg his fg% is 45.6. Kobe in his career avg 25.5 ppg and fg% if 45.4 and Lebron avg ppg is 27.6 and fg% of 49%..... pretty similar stats. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on April 30, 2013, 10:39:44 AM
He is in the league since 03-04 and he averages 25 ppg his fg% is 45.6. Kobe in his career avg 25.5 ppg and fg% if 45.4 and Lebron avg ppg is 27.6 and fg% of 49%..... pretty similar stats. 
ok. I oblige...your right.

Back to the old boomer and cartin...where's the rings?! Does this detract from great to just good. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:40:29 AM
I don't think hes not good. I think i said it that way, yes...i don't think he's a great. That's all. All you knick fans love him this yr but what happened to the first, what was it 3 seasons in NY?! He pulled an arod and sucked. You guys would've given him away for free basically. Now that he shoots 35 shots a game and scores 30 points all of a sudden hes a great!!???  Hes amazing?!  C'mon be realistic. Hes good but he ain't no great!
You are nuts lol! he never averaged less than 22 ppg on the knicks and always shot about 45%. He is a top 5 player especially this year.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:41:51 AM
ok. I oblige...your right.

Back to the old boomer and cartin...where's the rings?! Does this detract from great to just good.
Yes I think it does detract, but still doesnt mean he is not great.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:42:12 AM
He is in the league since 03-04 and he averages 25 ppg his fg% is 45.6. Kobe in his career avg 25.5 ppg and fg% if 45.4 and Lebron avg ppg is 27.6 and fg% of 49%..... pretty similar stats.
Similar stats and that is about it. How has he faired against the top teams this year?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
Similar stats and that is about it. How has he faired against the top teams this year?
3-1 against the heat.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
Similar stats and that is about it. How has he faired against the top teams this year?
And the argument is if he is a great player or not.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:44:38 AM
And the argument is if he is a great player or not.
Define great. Same class as Kobe or Lebron, hell no.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:45:36 AM
Define great. Same class as Kobe or Lebron, hell no.
No I never said that, but he is a top 5 player in the league IMO.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:46:06 AM
Define great. Same class as Kobe or Lebron, hell no.
I define great by stats. They never lie.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on April 30, 2013, 10:46:17 AM
I don't think hes not good. I think i said it that way, yes...i don't think he's a great. That's all. All you knick fans love him this yr but what happened to the first, what was it 3 seasons in NY?! He pulled an arod and sucked. You guys would've given him away for free basically. Now that he shoots 35 shots a game and scores 30 points all of a sudden hes a great!!???  Hes amazing?!  C'mon be realistic. Hes good but he ain't no great!

Lets take this piece by piece:
- The first 3 seasons in NY, D'antoni's offensive style was not suited for him. D'antoni runs a fast paced offense, Carmelo is an iso player. Additionally, D'antoni didnt figure out how to use Carmelo and Amare well together, especially within the type of offense they were running.
- Pulled an ARod? Not going to respond to this one. Dont think its needed.
- Shoots 35 times a game- Averaging 22 shots a game. Shooting 45%, i will take that. (Top 10 for SFs and would have been top 6 for SGs)

Nobody is saying he is an alltime great yet, but he has carried NY into the playoffs this year and would be curious to see how far he takes them. Leading the league in points at a good FG%, while carrying his team to the #2 team in their division, he deserves consideration as one of the top players of the year.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on April 30, 2013, 10:51:09 AM
I define great by stats. They never lie.
You sure about that? How many of MJís points were scored against double and triple teams? How many forced shots did he have to take with the shot clock expiring? You need to look a little deeper at the numbers.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on April 30, 2013, 10:53:51 AM
You sure about that? How many of MJís points were scored against double and triple teams? How many forced shots did he have to take with the shot clock expiring? You need to look a little deeper at the numbers.
I am definitely not comparing anyone to MJ that is a different discussion #greatestplayerever. when a player averages 25ppg and shoots 45% that is a great player.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on April 30, 2013, 10:59:52 AM
Lets take this piece by piece:
- The first 3 seasons in NY, D'antoni's offensive style was not suited for him. D'antoni runs a fast paced offense, Carmelo is an iso player. Additionally, D'antoni didnt figure out how to use Carmelo and Amare well together, especially within the type of offense they were running.
- Pulled an ARod? Not going to respond to this one. Dont think its needed.
- Shoots 35 times a game- Averaging 22 shots a game. Shooting 45%, i will take that. (Top 10 for SFs and would have been top 6 for SGs)

Nobody is saying he is an alltime great yet, but he has carried NY into the playoffs this year and would be curious to see how far he takes them. Leading the league in points at a good FG%, while carrying his team to the #2 team in their division, he deserves consideration as one of the top players of the year.
+100. I think rots5 is stuck in time, Dwight had a horrible year. The nets don't have kid Jefferson or Martin . And if my memory is correct, I think when nets had those 2 runs the east was very weak, hence they got demolished in the finals
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 01, 2013, 09:34:47 PM
I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 01, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
Embarrassing!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 02, 2013, 01:32:37 AM
quote author=kugelfresser link=topic=27560.msg481060#msg481060 date=1367458487]
I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
[/quote]
Embarrassing!
Kind of hard to understand with Melo on the team.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 02, 2013, 02:29:01 AM
quote author=kugelfresser link=topic=27560.msg481060#msg481060 date=1367458487]
I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
Kind of hard to understand with Melo on the team.  :)
lol

i just saw the highlights, im sure all u guys were thinking you had this game ar 11-0 when melo hit 5-11 in the first q...
i think worse than melo's disastrous shooting was jr smith whad he shoot? 3-18? (something like that)

what happened at the end of the game? more breakfast cereal?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 02, 2013, 07:36:30 AM
quote author=kugelfresser link=topic=27560.msg481060#msg481060 date=1367458487]
I'll be 1st to say it: Knicks are embarrassment , deserve to lose, hopefully they will learn for this series
Kind of hard to understand with Melo on the team.  :)
Funny... Still as bad as he played I stick by what I said. Last night was just a big disaster.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Kvending on May 02, 2013, 08:09:43 AM
Anyone believe Nets are gonna win tonight to push game 7 ??
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 02, 2013, 09:32:50 AM
Classless Knicks show true colors
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/knicks-wear-black-to-game-look-like-fools-after-celtics-win-050113
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: aarony on May 02, 2013, 10:35:43 AM
found this spg offer for 2nd round out MSG - 30K pts for 2 tix in luxury suite....

http://auction.starwoodhotels.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=190319079&cgmenbr=67280009
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Kvending on May 02, 2013, 10:47:37 AM
found this spg offer for 2nd round out MSG - 30K pts for 2 tix in luxury suite....

http://auction.starwoodhotels.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=190319079&cgmenbr=67280009

Are these seats able to be sold?

Like on StubHub?

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 02, 2013, 10:54:03 AM
FYI, Suites at MSG are about a mile high. View is awful
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: bades on May 02, 2013, 10:56:14 AM
found this spg offer for 2nd round out MSG - 30K pts for 2 tix in luxury suite....

http://auction.starwoodhotels.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=190319079&cgmenbr=67280009
pretty good deal. Is there anyway to know if a game will be on shabbas?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 02, 2013, 11:10:22 AM
pretty good deal. Is there anyway to know if a game will be on shabbas?

Game 1 will not be Shabbos. Other ones hard to know. Game 5 will very possibly be Shavuos
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on May 02, 2013, 11:48:53 AM
found this spg offer for 2nd round out MSG - 30K pts for 2 tix in luxury suite....

http://auction.starwoodhotels.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=190319079&cgmenbr=67280009
Not crazily priced. Do you think you Can get kosher food? if so it really is reasonable
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: bades on May 02, 2013, 11:50:12 AM
Game 1 will not be Shabbos. Other ones hard to know. Game 5 will very possibly be Shavuos

How do you know, is there anyway to know what days it will or wont be
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 02, 2013, 12:38:50 PM
Classless Knicks show true colors
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/knicks-wear-black-to-game-look-like-fools-after-celtics-win-050113 (http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/knicks-wear-black-to-game-look-like-fools-after-celtics-win-050113)
+1 I agree. Pretty classless.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 02, 2013, 12:46:55 PM
How do you know, is there anyway to know what days it will or wont be

1st Round either ends tomorrow or Sun. They def wont wait till Shabbos for Game 1
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 02, 2013, 12:48:02 PM
Not crazily priced. Do you think you Can get kosher food? if so it really is reasonable

There is Kosher on the Suite Catering Menu so I don't see why not
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 02, 2013, 08:09:24 PM
Anyone believe Nets are gonna win tonight to push game 7 ??
with Heinrich and dueng out. There's a big chance.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 02, 2013, 10:56:19 PM
with Heinrich and dueng out. There's a big chance.
and there it is. Game 7!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 03, 2013, 12:39:44 AM
and there it is. Game 7!
Don't get too excited. They basically beat a good college team.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Mimi K. on May 03, 2013, 12:49:07 AM
Don't get too excited. They basically beat a good college team.
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-gen013.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Go Nets!
A win is a win!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 03, 2013, 01:39:33 AM
Don't get too excited. They basically beat a good college team.
i saw the whole game. The nets should've blown them out. They missed 11 f/t late in the game. Lopez was off. The bulls are at best a good college team. But as Mimi said its a W

#goldenstate?!?!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 03, 2013, 09:39:19 AM
Don't get too excited. They basically beat a good college team.
Im a Knicks fan. Just made a statement
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 04, 2013, 09:51:49 PM
Anyone going to the Knicks game tomorrow with SPG?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 04, 2013, 11:16:00 PM
Good season ya'll. now i can just watch the games. Now Johnson 2-14?!?  We deserved to loose.
Next yr.  till then go thunder.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: muttman on May 05, 2013, 12:55:53 AM
Anyone going to the Knicks game tomorrow with SPG?

I am!

Any suggestions on how to make sure that they have kosher food?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 05, 2013, 08:21:53 AM
Good season ya'll. now i can just watch the games. Now Johnson 2-14?!?  We deserved to loose.
Next yr.  till then go thunder.
I think Memphis will make It to finals
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 05, 2013, 08:22:16 AM
I am!

Any suggestions on how to make sure that they have kosher food?
I would say u have to order it before hand
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 05, 2013, 08:31:37 AM
I am!

Any suggestions on how to make sure that they have kosher food?

Call the contact at MSG
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: muttman on May 05, 2013, 08:58:03 AM
Call the contact at MSG
I would say u have to order it before hand

How would I found out who the contact at MSG is?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 05, 2013, 09:27:36 AM
How would I found out who the contact at MSG is?
here (http://www.google.com)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: A3 on May 05, 2013, 11:55:50 AM
How would I found out who the contact at MSG is?


If you figure it out and get kosher food. Please post your experience after, I would do it for a later game.
Although I am a bulls fan.
Maybe conf finals? #wishfulthinking #beattheheat
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 02:14:24 AM
I know its only game one...but.....

14-43?!?

And did any one see durrant last night...he IS an upcoming great
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 06, 2013, 08:13:31 AM
And did any one see durrant last night...he IS an upcoming great
Melo great or the real thing like MJ great?  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 08:14:25 AM
Melo great or the real thing like MJ great?  :)
melo is nothing like mj and has nothing to show
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 08:57:31 AM
melo is nothing like mj and has nothing to show
how's the golf
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 09:02:38 AM
how's the golf
better than watching my dreadful team.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 09:19:02 AM
Melo great or the real thing like MJ great?  :)
Oh please nobody ever compared Melo to MJ and you cant compare anyone to MJ IMO
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 09:23:54 AM
Oh please nobody ever compared Melo to MJ and you cant compare anyone to MJ IMO
mj played in a whole diff era. So its hard to ever compare. But im sure Kobe lebron and kd might be in the argument.  Who knows. 

But melo will never be a great....💍❓❗
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 09:26:29 AM
mj played in a whole diff era. So its hard to ever compare. But im sure Kobe lebron and kd might be in the argument.  Who knows. 

But melo will never be a great....❓❗
True and Melo is not in the league of those 3 either, but he is considered a great player. The fact that right now he is not shooting well is not a reflection on how good he is. we went through this already lol.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 09:26:49 AM
Oh please nobody ever compared Melo to MJ and you cant compare anyone to MJ IMO
+1 only one I think that's close is kobe
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 09:39:39 AM
+1 only one I think that's close is kobe
Maybe Lebron.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 06, 2013, 09:46:02 AM
Oh please nobody ever compared Melo to MJ and you cant compare anyone to MJ IMO
I guess the sarcasm didnít come through.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 09:46:49 AM
I guess the sarcasm didnít come through.
Guess not  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 06, 2013, 09:50:39 AM
True and Melo is not in the league of those 3 either, but he is considered a great player. The fact that right now he is not shooting well is not a reflection on how good he is. we went through this already lol.
Great players don't have off games as often as this guy.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 09:53:11 AM
Great players don't have off games as often as this guy.
Not true at all.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 06, 2013, 09:54:43 AM
Not true at all.
If you say so.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 09:58:35 AM
Not true at all.
bogus. Your riding the Knicks wagon. You knick fans all forgot last yr u would've taken Jason Collins for melo. Or the circus act of jr smith. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 10:05:45 AM
bogus. Your riding the Knicks wagon. You knick fans all forgot last yr u would've taken Jason Collins for melo. Or the circus act of jr smith.
Has nothing to do with bandwagon at all.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 10:47:03 AM
Has nothing to do with bandwagon at all.
then what do you call this sudden love affair with these two yo yo's? Melo has been avr as a knick, and of a sudden he has a breakout yr, a good 8 yrs into his career and he becomes a great?!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 10:47:59 AM
bogus. Your riding the Knicks wagon. You knick fans all forgot last yr u would've taken Jason Collins for melo. Or the circus act of jr smith.
huh??? I think your mixing it up with how the nets offered half their team and draft picks till 2035 to get melo....
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 10:50:32 AM
Maybe Lebron.
never. Do we have to remind you how he just gave up in his last yr in clev? Jordan was the ultimate competitor, lebrons a baby, stat-wise maybe they are the same, but are not the same player.
Lebron constantly relaxes through 1st half of a game and comes alive in 2nd half etc
Jordan wasn't like that.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 12:11:38 PM
then what do you call this sudden love affair with these two yo yo's? Melo has been avr as a knick, and of a sudden he has a breakout yr, a good 8 yrs into his career and he becomes a great?!
Didnt we go through this already and I compared his career stats to kobe and Lebron?? if you call averagin about 25ppg and 45% fg average then thats your issue  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 12:13:08 PM
never. Do we have to remind you how he just gave up in his last yr in clev? Jordan was the ultimate competitor, lebrons a baby, stat-wise maybe they are the same, but are not the same player.
Lebron constantly relaxes through 1st half of a game and comes alive in 2nd half etc
Jordan wasn't like that.
Oh I agree, the game is much different now. Players played with heart back then (isiah thomas, larry bird, magic etc.) totally different game. I was just basing off stats.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 12:51:48 PM
huh??? I think your mixing it up with how the nets offered half their team and draft picks till 2035 to get melo....
i was opposed to it then too. As much as the previous post makes seance and i can't stand lebron - i did want him.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 02:07:25 PM
Oh I agree, the game is much different now. Players played with heart back then (isiah thomas, larry bird, magic etc.) totally different game. I was just basing off stats.
i used to hate kobe, but now since ppl started saying lebron is better than kobe, i've re-analyzed kobe, and have come to admire and appreciate his fire and competitiveness, its up there with jordan. (yes kobe has acted like a baby earlier in his career)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 02:08:31 PM
bogus. Your riding the Knicks wagon. You knick fans all forgot last yr u would've taken Jason Collins for melo. Or the circus act of jr smith.
please explain
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 02:24:21 PM
please explain
you guys hated melo.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 02:25:24 PM
you guys hated melo.
never did. needed right coach and right players around him.
i hate amare, knicks should have amnesty'd him
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 06, 2013, 04:28:58 PM
never did. needed right coach and right players around him.
i hate amare, knicks should have amnesty'd him
haahaa. I forgot about that maxed out contract has been. Now we can all agree he was never a good pick up.

He reminds me of my mo Vaughn days. Oy!!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 04:30:46 PM
haahaa. I forgot about that maxed out contract has been. Now we can all agree he was never a good pick up.

He reminds me of my mo Vaughn days. Oy!!
  Us Met fans can never forget that!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 06, 2013, 04:36:48 PM
  Us Met fans can never forget that!
...and Cub fans will never forget "69".
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 04:38:36 PM
...and Cub fans will never forget "69".
Well I was not born yet  :P  from all the teams I go for I have 1 cup from the Rangers in 94 and I was 6!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 06, 2013, 07:53:41 PM
  Us Met fans can never forget that!
i think bonilla blunder is worse
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: bubbles on May 06, 2013, 07:55:53 PM
Well I was not born yet  :P  from all the teams I go for I have 1 cup from the Rangers in 94 and I was 6!

what a difference. got the same cup in 94 but add in 5 WS + 2 SB's I can remember (and 2 I can't)  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on May 06, 2013, 07:58:27 PM
what a difference. got the same cup in 94 but add in 5 WS + 2 SB's I can remember (and 2 I can't)  :)
+1
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 06, 2013, 07:59:40 PM
what a difference. got the same cup in 94 but add in 5 WS + 2 SB's I can remember (and 2 I can't)  :)
Yup I always ask my father " why couldnt you be a Giants and Yankess fan?"
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 07, 2013, 12:25:19 AM
If bulls make it to finals does rose return? Does it tarnish his rep?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 07, 2013, 12:39:54 AM
If bulls make it to finals does rose return? Does it tarnish his rep?
His rep is already toast. I have to believe this kid is getting very bad advice. No matter how good he becomes this will always follow him. The joke in Chicago goes like this. Who is the healthiest player on the Bulls?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 07, 2013, 02:18:27 AM
His rep is already toast. I have to believe this kid is getting very bad advice. No matter how good he becomes this will always follow him. The joke in Chicago goes like this. Who is the healthiest player on the Bulls?
its sad that rose is not playing, who is telling him hes the next prodigy and dont play now. hes good but with a act like this he will never be a gteat... its so sad how sports became such a self centered event...

be it baseball where the starters wont go more than 6/6 and if ur lucky into the 7th
basketball where these players sit themselvs in big games (right before melo went on that huge run he sat himself down in the 4th for no good reason) or take any lebron case in the beg of his carrer or even first half of games...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: A3 on May 07, 2013, 08:06:24 AM
Forget that. I went to bed at midnight when the spurs were down by 12 late in the fourth. How about that game, from curry s 3rd quarter run, to the spurs comeback.
The warriors still haven't won in SA since 1997. Yup curry was 8 years old then.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 07, 2013, 09:06:26 AM
its sad that rose is not playing, who is telling him hes the next prodigy and dont play now. hes good but with a act like this he will never be a gteat... its so sad how sports became such a self centered event...

be it baseball where the starters wont go more than 6/6 and if ur lucky into the 7th
basketball where these players sit themselvs in big games (right before melo went on that huge run he sat himself down in the 4th for no good reason) or take any lebron case in the beg of his carrer or even first half of games...
You just hate Melo  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 07, 2013, 09:11:14 AM
You just hate Melo  ;)
Yup i do!  Just like i hate arod. And what about then bulls?! Nuts.  I don't feel so bad now. Lol
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 07, 2013, 09:14:52 AM
Yup i do!  Just like i hate arod. And what about then bulls?! Nuts.  I don't feel so bad now. Lol
how can u put melo in the same league as arod? Arod took steriods, Acts like a baby, melo just shoots too much sometimes.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 07, 2013, 09:26:06 AM
Yup i do!  Just like i hate arod. And what about then bulls?! Nuts.  I don't feel so bad now. Lol
I was so happy that the Bulls won.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 07, 2013, 09:26:50 AM
I was so happy that the Bulls won.
What chance do you give them?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 07, 2013, 09:29:05 AM
What chance do you give them?
Honestly before last nights game I thought they were losing in 5. If they play like they do last night there could be an upset
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 07, 2013, 10:03:30 AM
Excuse my mistake if I missed it, but how have the Melo guys not said anything about him getting the lone non-Lebron MVP vote? You can read the voter's explanation here (http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/05/05/yes-voted-carmelo-anthony-for-mvp-and-for-good-reason/Yo08ZgzGaxzlt9KF0JDfqM/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw).

Forget that. I went to bed at midnight when the spurs were down by 12 late in the fourth. How about that game, from curry s 3rd quarter run, to the spurs comeback.
The warriors still haven't won in SA since 1997. Yup curry was 8 years old then.
+1000000

I've watched a lot of basketball (though obviously not as much as some of our old-timers here) and I think this was the best game I have ever seen. Being game 1 of a 2nd round series it lacks slightly in the importance category, but it made up for that in just about every other way.

Everyone keeps talking about Curry the shooter. But once SA started doing a better job taking away the jump shot, he brought out a phenomenal floater game (finishing with either hand). You'd probably have to go back to a younger Parker to find another that good.

If SA ends up making a deep run, it'll be with Leonard and Green coming up big. The big 3 will still be shouldering the offensive load, but those 2 were great on defense and shot the ball phenomenally  last night.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 07, 2013, 12:03:28 PM
Excuse my mistake if I missed it, but how have the Melo guys not said anything about him getting the lone non-Lebron MVP vote?
The vote was 120-1. The guy is a nut case. No more to be said.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 07, 2013, 12:24:08 PM
The vote was 120-1. The guy is a nut case. No more to be said.

I didn't say I'm surprised you didn't mention it, CV. I said I'm surprised I the Melo supporters didn't mention it.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 07, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
I didn't say I'm surprised you didn't mention it, CV. I said I'm surprised I the Melo supporters didn't mention it.  ;D
The 1 could have been a vote for Mickey Mouse, who cares.
Don't get me wrong I am not a Melo hater. I guess my standard of a great player is just higher than most.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 07, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
 
I didn't say I'm surprised you didn't mention it, CV. I said I'm surprised I the Melo supporters didn't mention it.  ;D
Us Melo people didnt mention it because like CV said...
The vote was 120-1. The guy is a nut case. No more to be said.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 07, 2013, 03:51:49 PM
Us Melo people didnt mention it because like CV said...

Did you read the article I linked to with the writer's explanation of his Melo vote?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 07, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
Did you read the article I linked to with the writer's explanation of his Melo vote?
Yes and I do agree with one point he made about it being the Most valuable player and not the best player, but in every sport the MVP goes to the best player thats just the way it is. Dont get me wrong I love Melo, but you cant give it to him over Lebron.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: whacked1 on May 07, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
MELO!!!!  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 01:40:53 AM
MELO!!!!  ;D :D ;D
finally 13-26

Jr 3-15.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 08, 2013, 01:49:14 AM
finally 13-26
Is he now a "great" player?  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 01:52:30 AM
Is he now a "great" player?  :P
hate him. He will never be a great!!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 08, 2013, 01:53:54 AM
hate him. He will never be a great!!
I don't like Lebron but he can become a great player.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 01:57:52 AM
I don't like Lebron but he can become a great player.
ok.  Melo is never going to be a great player.  Stats are stats.  Where's the rings?!? Why now? 9 yrs in the league and NOW hes making an impact?!? 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 07:58:18 AM
ok.  Melo is never going to be a great player.  Stats are stats.  Where's the rings?!? Why now? 9 yrs in the league and NOW hes making an impact?!?
that is the dumbest statement. Seriously rots give it up.
Rings: so if he gets 1 then according to u then he will become great?
9yrs: so then according to you lebron isn't gr8 because it took him 8yrs to get a ring? And Jordan? Kobe?
So Karl Malone, barkley, Stockton, iverson etc werent great players bec they didn't get a ring?
Seriously rots.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 08:48:17 AM
ok.  Melo is never going to be a great player.  Stats are stats.  Where's the rings?!? Why now? 9 yrs in the league and NOW hes making an impact?!?
Oh stop it already lol. We went through this already 100 times! correct stats are stats. like we brought up in the past, Is Marino not a great even though he didnt win a championship?!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 08:48:40 AM
that is the dumbest statement. Seriously rots give it up.
Rings: so if he gets 1 then according to u then he will become great?
9yrs: so then according to you lebron isn't gr8 because it took him 8yrs to get a ring? And Jordan? Kobe?
So Karl Malone, barkley, Stockton, iverson etc werent great players bec they didn't get a ring?
Seriously rots.
+1
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 09:27:40 AM
I didnt say its the only thing that sets them apart from good to great.  But go to any normal headed sportscaster who knows a thing or two. I don't care about his stats.  Melo will never be a great like these players. He is very diff than melons Stockton (iverson?!?)   

I think thas it. He is just not a winner.

You guys honestly think hes on the same caliber as Malone?!?!?!? Now ur really just talking bs! Embarrassing!! Marino!? Barkley? Melo will never be a great like these guys are!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: muttman on May 08, 2013, 09:44:23 AM
I didnt say its the only thing that sets them apart from good to great.  But go to any normal headed sportscaster who knows a thing or two. I don't care about his stats.  Melo will never be a great like these players. He is very diff than melons Stockton (iverson?!?)   

I think thas it. He is just not a winner.

You guys honestly think hes on the same caliber as Malone?!?!?!? Now ur really just talking bs! Embarrassing!! Marino!? Barkley? Melo will never be a great like these guys are!

You are arguing with yourself.....
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 09:59:23 AM
I didnt say its the only thing that sets them apart from good to great.  But go to any normal headed sportscaster who knows a thing or two. I don't care about his stats.  Melo will never be a great like these players. He is very diff than melons Stockton (iverson?!?)   

I think thas it. He is just not a winner.

You guys honestly think hes on the same caliber as Malone?!?!?!? Now ur really just talking bs! Embarrassing!! Marino!? Barkley? Melo will never be a great like these guys are!
it was irrelevant if he's up there with them, just disproving your theory that u can't be great without a ring.
And how can u say he'll never be like them? He's career is far from over
Oh so now ur sources are sportscasters, that explains everything....
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 10:07:38 AM
it was irrelevant if he's up there with them, just disproving your theory that u can't be great without a ring.
And how can u say he'll never be like them? He's career is far from over
Oh so now ur sources are sportscasters, that explains everything....
mike frenseca has no opinion? What do u mean. Its not a source. Im just saying, you have to be an elite ball player to not have a ring and still be called a great and melo will never be that. 

#lockthatup
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 10:09:17 AM
I didnt say its the only thing that sets them apart from good to great.  But go to any normal headed sportscaster who knows a thing or two. I don't care about his stats.  Melo will never be a great like these players. He is very diff than melons Stockton (iverson?!?)   

I think thas it. He is just not a winner.

You guys honestly think hes on the same caliber as Malone?!?!?!? Now ur really just talking bs! Embarrassing!! Marino!? Barkley? Melo will never be a great like these guys are!
Dude of course we are not comparing him to people like that we are just stating that championships and rings doesnt necessarily mean you are great or not. And to repeat what was mentioned before... Lebron never won until he joined wade and bosh does that mean he is not great?! if he would have stayed on cleveland I doubt he would have won a championship.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
mike frenseca has no opinion? What do u mean. Its not a source. Im just saying, you have to be an elite ball player to not have a ring and still be called a great and melo will never be that. 

#lockthatup
Oh please dont quote francesa I hate that guy. He is just a hater and he spews. Hes like you the minute a player starts playing bad, thats it he sucks!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 10:11:50 AM
mike frenseca has no opinion? What do u mean. Its not a source. Im just saying, you have to be an elite ball player to not have a ring and still be called a great and melo will never be that. 

#lockthatup
Did you listen to B&C this morning? Carton wanted to know where all the Melo haters were now? ALOL'd
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: mercaz1 on May 08, 2013, 10:20:34 AM
melo did win a national championship
and he will go down as one of the best pure scorers in league history
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 08, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
If Melo career ended this year would he get into the hall of fame?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 10:34:19 AM
If Melo career ended this year would he get into the hall of fame?
Bases on stats alone, why not?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 08, 2013, 10:39:20 AM
Bases on stats alone, why not?
Was just asking and you put to much faith in stats.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 10:59:19 AM
Was just asking and you put to much faith in stats.
There is no reason not to and again the perfect example is Dan Marino. Arguably one of the greatest QBs ever based on stats no rings
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 08, 2013, 11:08:05 AM
If Melo career ended this year would he get into the hall of fame?

You realize he definitely would, right? Deserved or not, he'd get in. If Alex English, another high scoring, former Nugget SF, is in the HOF, Anthony should not have a problem getting in.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 11:43:26 AM
Oh please dont quote francesa I hate that guy. He is just a hater and he spews. Hes like you the minute a player starts playing bad, thats it he sucks!
+1 mike is he biggest idiot . So basically your just repeating opinions u hear on radio..
And rots how can u say never?? If Melo gets a ring he still won't be great??
So according to you , Kevin Garnett isn't considered great bec for 12 yrs he didn't take the t-wolves anywhere ???
Rots, you remind me of skip bayless.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: mercaz1 on May 08, 2013, 12:13:10 PM
if based on rings alone then robert horry should be one of the greatest of all time and patrick ewing stinks
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 12:26:26 PM
Did you listen to B&C this morning? Carton wanted to know where all the Melo haters were now? ALOL'd
all aside. This is hilarious!!!!  I actually did listen. And i was laughing bec all of a sudden after a horrific stretch of 4 terrible games melo is a hero again. I wish i am able to call bec only monday morning he was ripping melo. And all those ppl who think i take what mike says i can't stand him!! I usually don't listen to a word he says.  I could've said B&C have the same opinion to be honest. I listen to them all the time and they say the same but i feel if i didnt say a reliable source everyone would've ripped me too.

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 12:26:54 PM
melo did win a national championship
and he will go down as one of the best pure scorers in league history
U think college makes a diff?!?!?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 12:36:47 PM
U think college makes a diff?!?!?
That I agree with, it doesnt.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 08, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
Oh please dont quote francesa I hate that guy. He is just a hater and he spews. Hes like you the minute a player starts playing bad, thats it he sucks!

My brother told me about this whole 9/11 incident (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/item_5QnE2G3RFfmqNm4dnY0BHK) (sort of a recap, I can't find the original articale) with Francesa. Mushnick mentioned it again in an article after the Boston bombings and when my brother read that, he decided to stop listening to Francesa altogether. Mind you he already hated Mike, but it's still entertaining to listen to. This was crossing the line though.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 01:32:45 PM
My brother told me about this whole 9/11 incident (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/item_5QnE2G3RFfmqNm4dnY0BHK) (sort of a recap, I can't find the original articale) with Francesa. Mushnick mentioned it again in an article after the Boston bombings and when my brother read that, he decided to stop listening to Francesa altogether. Mind you he already hated Mike, but it's still entertaining to listen to. This was crossing the line though.
far from entertaining. Hes a sports junkie and knows abnormal amount. But i hate his opinions and is a useless giant fan. I rather listen to michal Kay and his big head. :-)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 01:41:54 PM
far from entertaining. Hes a sports junkie and knows abnormal amount. But i hate his opinions and is a useless giant fan. I rather listen to michal Kay and his big head. :-)
so then why do u keep repeating his opinion that w/o a ring u can't be great?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 01:44:11 PM
far from entertaining. Hes a sports junkie and knows abnormal amount. But i hate his opinions and is a useless giant fan. I rather listen to michal Kay and his big head. :-)
He knows an abnormal amount of baseball he doesnt know a crazy amount of other sports. Just because he talks down to people doesnt mean he knows what he is talking about.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 01:57:21 PM
so then why do u keep repeating his opinion that w/o a ring u can't be great?
first time I've quoted him. And like i said. Amount the ppl he is considered a somebody. B&C are not really, so it would be useless to some to quote the great cartin.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 02:08:42 PM
first time I've quoted him. And like i said. Amount the ppl he is considered a somebody. B&C are not really, so it would be useless to some to quote the great cartin.
but y do u agree with him?????
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 02:09:40 PM
He knows an abnormal amount of baseball he doesnt know a crazy amount of other sports. Just because he talks down to people doesnt mean he knows what he is talking about.
+100000000
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
but y do u agree with him?????
it shows u just bec i don't like someone it doesn't mean im not civil and can agree with him on certain points.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 02:21:00 PM
But i hate his opinions and is a useless giant fan. I rather listen to michal Kay and his big head. :-)


it shows u just bec i don't like someone it doesn't mean im not civil and can agree with him on certain points.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 08, 2013, 02:23:45 PM
So answer for us once and for all: If melo gets a ring is he great? if not y is Garnett considered great? unless your gonna tell us hes not...
Why are Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Ted Williams, Dan Marino, Barry Sanders all-time greats?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 09, 2013, 01:28:43 AM
Anyone see the Bulls (not sure what to call it) tonight?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 09, 2013, 01:33:01 AM
Anyone see the Bulls (not sure what to call it) tonight?
and what about the spurs!? Its nuts!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 09, 2013, 01:37:14 AM
and what about the spurs!? Its nuts!
They are old so I can feel their pain.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 09, 2013, 01:49:57 AM
They are old so I can feel their pain.  :)
but they once had game...did u? Jk! U still hit game man ☺
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: mercaz1 on May 09, 2013, 12:28:16 PM
how  will it it be if its golden state vs. memphis

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 09, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
how  will it it be if its golden state vs. memphis


i would say GS in the finals.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 09, 2013, 12:40:29 PM
Anyone see the Bulls (not sure what to call it) tonight?
That was a brutal game for them
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: mercaz1 on May 09, 2013, 12:51:43 PM
i would say GS in the finals.
memphis might be to physical for them
memphis will give the heat a harder time as well
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 11, 2013, 10:53:27 PM
Finally watched a NY game. Take away Meloís shooting ability and he is not even an average player.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 11, 2013, 11:16:05 PM
Finally watched a NY game. Take away Meloís shooting ability and he is not even an average player.
Lol
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 11, 2013, 11:19:59 PM
Lol
No, I did watch the game.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 11, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
Finally watched a NY game. Take away Meloís shooting ability and he is not even an average player.

He is not exactly a multi-faceted player but is arguably the best pure scorer in the game
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 11, 2013, 11:24:40 PM
He is not exactly a multi-faceted player but is arguably the best pure scorer in the game
That sure doesnít sound like a resume of a ďgreatĒ player to me.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: A3 on May 12, 2013, 12:00:00 AM
http://youtu.be/ZwwNWIa-GKI

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: chucksterace on May 12, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
http://youtu.be/ZwwNWIa-GKI

Finally, someone stands up to Lebron. Whatever Nazir gets is definitely worth it. Only going to make the next game even more exciting.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 12, 2013, 02:06:25 AM
http://youtu.be/ZwwNWIa-GK


wow. Nice push.

He is not exactly a multi-faceted player but is arguably the best pure scorer in the game
great. So let him be the best pure scorer. But being a 'great' wont cut it at that.  He is decent at best when hes not shooting 49%
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 18, 2013, 11:14:22 PM
Melo, 4 points in the forth. I think we can finally put this "great" BS to rest.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 18, 2013, 11:41:55 PM
Horrible moves by Woodson. Horrible refs.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 19, 2013, 12:47:03 AM
Melo, 4 points in the forth. I think we can finally put this "great" BS to rest.
-1 I was waiting for the first person to say that... thought it would be rots
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 19, 2013, 12:52:48 AM

-1 I was waiting for the first person to say that... thought it would be rots
+1 he's in israel , but have no fear we will be hearing from him :-) hi rots
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 19, 2013, 02:11:13 AM
+1 he's in israel , but have no fear we will be hearing from him :-) hi rots
i was actually up at the end of the fourth, (thanks to my son's new teeth ..lol) but i was just watching the espn updates.

i thought melo from his stats had a pretty good game, 15-29 with the most reb on his team.....
but i was just watching the stats at 530 am, so i dont know the woodson moves and the ref sitch...will watch it by lunch.but i love the loosing team, "the refs sucked" answer to why they loose.
and JR smith is litt the only reason why you guys lost! what an overrated player. finally it was seen amongst everyone in the big time!! and Chandler was a no body in the playoffs.

but all in all, lets sum it up this way.melo- 8 yrs in the league and he has one break out season, if it happens next yr, and the next 8 seasons after that, maybe, but i doubt he'll be the player he was this yr, in other words melo is an overrated superstar....


and you should know by now, im basking in the loss, dont need to shove it in your faces right away :D
tamus nafshi im pilishtim (you learn this quick as a met fan/yankee hater)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 19, 2013, 08:41:16 AM

i was actually up at the end of the fourth, (thanks to my son's new teeth ..lol) but i was just watching the espn updates.

i thought melo from his stats had a pretty good game, 15-29 with the most reb on his team.....
but i was just watching the stats at 530 am, so i dont know the woodson moves and the ref sitch...will watch it by lunch.but i love the loosing team, "the refs sucked" answer to why they loose.
and JR smith is litt the only reason why you guys lost! what an overrated player. finally it was seen amongst everyone in the big time!! and Chandler was a no body in the playoffs.

but all in all, lets sum it up this way.melo- 8 yrs in the league and he has one break out season, if it happens next yr, and the next 8 seasons after that, maybe, but i doubt he'll be the player he was this yr, in other words melo is an overrated superstar....


and you should know by now, im basking in the loss, dont need to shove it in your faces right away :D
tamus nafshi im pilishtim (you learn this quick as a met fan/yankee hater)
watch the game , especially the 6th foul called on Tyson and kenyon... Tell the refs aren't bias..
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 19, 2013, 08:43:11 AM
watch the game , especially the 6th foul called on Tyson and kenyon... Tell the refs aren't bias..
will do.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 19, 2013, 08:52:21 AM
-1 I was waiting for the first person to say that... thought it would be rots
This guy is not a "go to guy" in crunch time. He hardly ever gets doubled teamed.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 19, 2013, 08:56:14 AM
watch the game , especially the 6th foul called on Tyson and kenyon... Tell the refs aren't bias..
We use to hear this every year when the Bulls lost to the Pistons. Then when the Bulls started winning the big ones all you heard was MJ gets all the calls.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 19, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
We use to hear this every year when the Bulls lost to the Pistons. Then when the Bulls started winning the big ones all you heard was MJ gets all the calls.

I wouldn't call it bias, though that argument can probably be made more strongly in basketball than in other sports (see Donaghy, Tim), but if you can't agree that NBA playoff basketball is frequently swung by shoddy officiating, then you clearly aren't watching much of it.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 19, 2013, 08:37:38 PM
I wouldn't call it bias, though that argument can probably be made more strongly in basketball than in other sports (see Donaghy, Tim), but if you can't agree that NBA playoff basketball is frequently swung by shoddy officiating, then you clearly aren't watching much of it.
Refs do not win or lose games. Everyone always wants to point to a couple of calls in the game that could have changed the outcome. How about the other hundred of plays every game the coach and players messed up on?  If you think NY lost because of the refs maybe you should stop watching a sport you don't understand.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 19, 2013, 10:15:35 PM
Refs do not win or lose games. Everyone always wants to point to a couple of calls in the game that could have changed the outcome. How about the other hundred of plays every game the coach and players messed up on?  If you think NY lost because of the refs maybe you should stop watching a sport you don't understand.  ;)

Thus far in this thread you've sported a very outdated view of the game, leading me to believe that you're the one who doesn't understand the game.  ;) [I'm just going to go along with your method of using an emoticon to make it look like I'm playing down a diss.]

Either way, I wasn't referring specifically to the NYK-IND game. I didn't watch it and the extent of my opinion on the matter was to notice the lopsided 46-18 FTA disparity, which obviously doesn't tell much of the story. My point was that irrespective of the 'winning and losing', NBA playoff officiating (not that regular season is necessarily better, it just doesn't get as many eyeballs) has long been erratic and inconsistent. The fact that anything other than the play of the 2 teams on the court should have such an oversized impact time and time again is a travesty. Sometimes it doesn't really change the outcome, but we can all come up with at least a handful of series where the team that clearly played better did not win.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 19, 2013, 10:44:17 PM
...but we can all come up with at least a handful of series where the team that clearly played better did not win.
...and it had nothing to do with the refs. Show me a coach that tells his players they lost because of the refs and I will show you an unemployed coach.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 19, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
...and it had nothing to do with the refs. Show me a coach that tells his players they lost because of the refs and I will show you an unemployed coach.
I dont  think they lost because of the refs, I think they lost because you need a team to win not just 1 player.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 20, 2013, 12:13:24 AM
...and it had nothing to do with the refs. Show me a coach that tells his players they lost because of the refs and I will show you an unemployed coach.

So the team that played better lost... and the reason wasn't the refs. Rather it was because... ?

The bit about the coach fits nicely into your old school NBA fan persona, but it has less to do with analyzing why a particular team won a series than it does good coaching.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on May 22, 2013, 11:20:33 PM
wow, that may have been the worst final set in history to result in a tying three
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 22, 2013, 11:37:22 PM

wow, that may have been the worst final set in history to result in a tying three
ghost of Reggie
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on May 22, 2013, 11:48:25 PM
wow. wild game
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 22, 2013, 11:54:58 PM
bizarre
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 28, 2013, 08:52:29 AM
Tim Dunkin - HERO!

#lockitup
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 28, 2013, 09:54:31 AM

Tim Dunkin - HERO!

#lockitup
is he great? #justcheckin
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 28, 2013, 10:03:20 AM
is he great? #justcheckin
a hero is one better!!  :)

And prob the most underrated one too
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 28, 2013, 10:06:59 AM
is he great? #justcheckin
If Melo is great then TD is at a different level.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
a hero is one better!!  :)

And prob the most underrated one too
Since when is Duncan underrated?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
If Melo is great then TD is at a different level.  ;)
lol You and Rots just cant get enough Melo  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 28, 2013, 02:31:28 PM
Since when is Duncan underrated?
dunkin flies under the radar along with his two side kicks. There doing there thing for a decade. There not back page on the post and there no lebran or Kobe. They rarely make big headlines, or have issues with those guys.

Bec melo is overrated! If melo has another good yr them come back to this thread till then. Melo got lucky this yr. :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
dunkin flies under the radar along with his two side kicks. There doing there thing for a decade. There not back page on the post and there no lebran or Kobe. They rarely make big headlines, or have issues with those guys.

Bec melo is overrated! If melo has another good yr them come back to this thread till then. Melo got lucky this yr. :)
Lol Duncan is arguably the best Power forward ever. as far as melo, Im not getting into it again  :-X :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 28, 2013, 02:41:15 PM
Lol Duncan is arguably the best Power forward ever. as far as melo, Im not getting into it again  :-X :)
dunkin in our eyes. But he just keeps a low profile.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 02:42:29 PM
dunkin in our eyes. But he just keeps a low profile.
Yea he keeps a low profile, but I think most of the world would agree that he is amazing.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Marco Polo on May 28, 2013, 02:42:54 PM
If Duncan wins a ring, he will have won a ring in three consecutive decades...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 02:45:26 PM
If Duncan wins a ring, he will have won a ring in three consecutive decades...
I honestly dont think he will win this year. Miami is too good.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Marco Polo on May 28, 2013, 02:47:31 PM
I honestly dont think he will win this year. Miami is too good.
Agreed.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 28, 2013, 02:51:48 PM
Lol Duncan is arguably the best Power forward ever.
Not going to start another argument but letís not get carried away here.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 02:53:16 PM
Not going to start another argument but letís not get carried away here.
No please lets! :D .  Firstly I said Arguably and second who do you think is that much better?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 28, 2013, 02:59:36 PM
No please lets! :D .  Firstly I said Arguably and second who do you think is that much better?
I think two guys who don't have any rings are right there.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 03:00:23 PM
I think two guys who don't have any rings are right there.  ;)
You know I dont necessarily think rings make a person great. who are you referring to?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 28, 2013, 03:04:09 PM
You know I dont necessarily think rings make a person great. who are you referring to?
Malone and Barkley. It is sort of unfair because when questions like this come up the players from recent history are always favored.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 03:06:15 PM
Malone and Barkley. It is sort of unfair because when questions like this come up the players from recent history are always favored.
Im not biased to recent players at all. Ill agree that Malone and Barkley are def equal if not better then duncan. It is a totally diff game. Do you think Lebron would be the best player in the league 20 years ago?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 03:08:07 PM
Malone and Barkley. It is sort of unfair because when questions like this come up the players from recent history are always favored.
It was so hard to win a championship in that era with Jordan. One would think that Malone and Stockton would win one. I was just watching ESPN 30 for 30 reggie miller and Reggie said in an interview how great it is that Jordan went to baseball because now anyone can win lol
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 28, 2013, 03:11:03 PM
Lebron is a hard one to figure out. I would like to see teams double and sometimes triple team him most of the game. Then we will know how good he is.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 28, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
Malone and Barkley. It is sort of unfair because when questions like this come up the players from recent history are always favored.
b&c said Te exact same thing. Of you go back there are greats. But dunkin can be top 5
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 03:23:43 PM
Lebron is a hard one to figure out. I would like to see teams double and sometimes triple team him most of the game. Then we will know how good he is.
The issue is is that if/when they do double or triple team him they have wade and Bosh.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: mercaz1 on May 28, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
duncan is one of the top 5 power fowards of all time- imo

lebron would most probably be one of the best players no matter what era he would play in just because of his sheer physical abilities
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on May 28, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
duncan is one of the top 5 power fowards of all time- imo

lebron would most probably be one of the best players no matter what era he would play in just because of his sheer physical abilities
Lost any respect i still had for him after reading this (http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9317929/2013-nba-playoffs-lebron-james-says-not-flopper-sees-advantage-flopping)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 28, 2013, 04:07:58 PM
Malone and Barkley. It is sort of unfair because when questions like this come up the players from recent history are always favored.

To me it's not even a discussion, Duncan's better than these 2. But at least I can understand someone wanting to go with Malone. Barkley never made an all-defensive team. Not to say Barkley was bad on the defensive end of the floor, but Duncan's defensive prowess sets him apart from these 2 guys.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on May 28, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
Duncan is MUCH better than Malone
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: judahk88 on May 28, 2013, 06:05:13 PM
Duncan is MUCH better than Malone
That's a big statement! I wouldnt say much
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on May 29, 2013, 01:49:03 AM
Look out. We might have an Indy SA finals.

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 29, 2013, 02:10:57 AM
Look out. We might have an Indy SA finals.
...and we might not.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: mercaz1 on May 29, 2013, 09:45:16 AM
if its indy sa then they will set records for lowest scoring finals
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 29, 2013, 10:32:30 AM
if its indy sa then they will set records for lowest scoring finals
...and lowest ratings.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on May 29, 2013, 10:36:35 AM
...and lowest ratings.
That's what I was thinning
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on May 29, 2013, 10:37:16 AM
That's what I was thinning
You on a diet?  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on May 29, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
You on a diet?  ;)
I should be
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on May 30, 2013, 10:27:39 AM
if its indy sa then they will set records for lowest scoring finals

You do realize that SA was 4th in ppg this season, right? One spot in front of a certain other team still in the playoffs (hint... it's the Heat). And that they've been over the 103 point mark for the past 3 seasons, ranking 6, 2, and 4.

Obviously the Pacers look for a more grind it out type of pace, but that match up would not be setting any records.

...and lowest ratings.

This may be true, but it's really sad and it has nothing to do with the game being played on the court. The Spurs make their living on 3's and drives to the basket, normally considered exciting plays. Allen Iverson was considered exciting, and his game was mostly fantastic drives resulting in tough finishes at the rim. Sounds like Tony Parker, only Parker doesn't have that character that draws people in.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 13, 2013, 09:29:42 PM
Why is nobody talking here?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 13, 2013, 09:50:42 PM

Why is nobody talking here?
+1 can we get some sports fans to join the ddf message me chat?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 13, 2013, 09:57:17 PM
@rots5 how pumped are you for Coach Kidd?? 😛
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 13, 2013, 10:09:11 PM
+1 can we get some sports fans to join the ddf message me chat?
Make it whatsapp and I may join.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2013, 10:13:42 PM
Heck of a first half!!!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 13, 2013, 10:42:20 PM

Make it whatsapp and I may join.
wat type phone u got
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 13, 2013, 11:49:19 PM
wat type phone u got
Android.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: HowYaDoin on June 13, 2013, 11:51:26 PM
Heck of a first half!!!
Pretty solid second half...guess it is gonna be a long series
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 13, 2013, 11:52:02 PM
Where the hell did the Spurs go in the 4th quarter?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 14, 2013, 12:47:05 AM
Android.
messageme app is avail for android - free
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 14, 2013, 01:04:12 AM
Not one well played game yet. Is this the best the NBA has to offer?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2013, 02:18:19 AM
Number 1 - at first i was annoyed about kids. Obviously the nets tampered. He leaves his 6 mill from the Knicks and 10 minutes later he signed by the nets. But now lets get our egos aside...i personally like the move a lot. He was my glory days. Litt! I must've seems at least 75-80% of kidd's games as a net.  He changed that franchise. So many times u can see he knows what hes doing out there.

Second - i don't know where Parker went in the second half. And finally the "big three" had thier best game ever, as a unit. Sad!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 14, 2013, 02:41:39 AM
Sad!
Depends who you're routing for :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2013, 02:43:12 AM
Depends who you're routing for :P
even if ur a heat fan, its sad it tooks three full yrs to get ur best game from ur top 3 players. bosh is a huge overrated bust!wade is no where to be found his season, and lebron is just lebron
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 14, 2013, 08:12:32 AM
Not one well played game yet. Is this the best the NBA has to offer?
+1 except game 1
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 14, 2013, 08:15:24 AM
Number 1 - at first i was annoyed about kids. Obviously the nets tampered. He leaves his 6 mill from the Knicks and 10 minutes later he signed by the nets. But now lets get our egos aside...i personally like the move a lot. He was my glory days. Litt! I must've seems at least 75-80% of kidd's games as a net.  He changed that franchise. So many times u can see he knows what hes doing out there.

Second - i don't know where Parker went in the second half. And finally the "big three" had thier best game ever, as a unit. Sad!
i think its embarrassing move. prokrov is always saying how the nets are one of the premier teams blah blah, he couldnt get a big name coach, so he goes for the cutesy hire.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 14, 2013, 08:53:23 AM
even if ur a heat fan, its sad it tooks three full yrs to get ur best game from ur top 3 players. bosh is a huge overrated bust!wade is no where to be found his season, and lebron is just lebron
::)
And yet in three years they have three finals appearances, one championship (so far) and challenged a record most thought would never be challenged.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2013, 09:31:19 AM
::)
And yet in three years they have three finals appearances, one championship (so far) and challenged a record most thought would never be challenged.
rings.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 14, 2013, 09:46:27 AM
rings.
Of which they have one and are working on a second ???
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2013, 10:04:58 AM
i think its embarrassing move. prokrov is always saying how the nets are one of the premier teams blah blah, he couldnt get a big name coach, so he goes for the cutesy hire.
well, will see how it pans out. he has the capability to make a big impaCT
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 14, 2013, 10:11:37 AM

well, will see how it pans out. he has the capability to make a big impaCT
ya if they win it will be a gr8 story, but I would've gone after Brian shaw.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2013, 10:15:30 AM
ya if they win it will be a gr8 story, but I would've gone after Brian shaw.

personally i think they shouldve gone for rivers, he is a great coach. but now that they got kidd, i hope the best!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 14, 2013, 10:45:41 AM

personally i think they shouldve gone for rivers, he is a great coach. but now that they got kidd, i hope the best!
def if rivers was avail. But I don't think river thoughts they had enuf to win. I see him going to clippers or grizz
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 14, 2013, 11:03:18 AM
def if rivers was avail. But I don't think river thoughts they had enuf to win. I see him going to clippers or grizz
like i said when we had the gay guy collins, were missing that one peice to the puzzle. then it was a decent big man, and now its a decent SF/PF wallace has to clean up his act.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: bades on June 14, 2013, 11:06:14 AM
Where the hell did the Spurs go in the 4th quarter?

+100 NO Defense in the 2nd half
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 16, 2013, 10:54:59 PM
If the Spurs win, Green has to be MVP.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 16, 2013, 11:00:51 PM
Another non event game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 16, 2013, 11:03:45 PM
Another non event game.
+1, are we going to have (another) interesting game this series?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 16, 2013, 11:08:05 PM
+1, are we going to have (another) interesting game this series?
Yes.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 16, 2013, 11:15:18 PM
Yes.
I  hope you're correct
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 16, 2013, 11:16:27 PM
Yes.
I will go out on a limb and say no.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 16, 2013, 11:17:29 PM
FTFY
Um, I meant the series.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: DovtheBear on June 16, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
Um, I meant the series.
OK. Wasn't following (you or the playoffs).
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: yaakov s on June 17, 2013, 10:50:30 AM
OK. Wasn't following (you or the playoffs).
Then maybe don't post a reply. Doesn't look good when you post without thinking or reading

M2c
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 17, 2013, 11:06:59 AM
Yes.
game 7 will be historic.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 17, 2013, 11:14:26 AM
game 7 will be historic.

In what sense?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 17, 2013, 11:25:23 AM
game 7 will be historic.

You're assuming there will be one!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 17, 2013, 11:26:47 AM
game 7 will be historic.
If there is one. And if it's not a blowout
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 17, 2013, 11:49:44 AM
If there is one. And if it's not a blowout

Even assuming all of that happens, what about it will be historic?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 17, 2013, 12:05:16 PM
Even assuming all of that happens, what about it will be historic?
Only thing historic about this series is how badly it has been played.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 17, 2013, 01:08:24 PM
Historic game. I was thinking game seven close game maybe overtime big shot wins it.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 17, 2013, 01:27:27 PM
Historic game. I was thinking game seven close game maybe overtime big shot wins it.
It will probably make the record for the most watched basketball game
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 17, 2013, 01:28:48 PM
It will probably make the record for the most watched basketball game
now that's pushing it.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 17, 2013, 01:39:45 PM

now that's pushing it.
+1
Mike just made a bold guarantee, heat in 7
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 17, 2013, 03:12:28 PM
+1
Mike just made a bold guarantee, heat in 7
boomer said seven. He didnt wanna say who. He wanted a cartin "lockitup". But they were to into getting "the broads down to the sweatshop to vote for write"
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on June 17, 2013, 04:06:57 PM
Oy....

http://www.terezowens.com/danny-green-was-blessed-before-game-3/
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 18, 2013, 12:17:12 AM
Oy....

http://www.terezowens.com/danny-green-was-blessed-before-game-3/
Awesome! :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 18, 2013, 03:36:00 AM
Oy....

http://www.terezowens.com/danny-green-was-blessed-before-game-3/
Schottenstein?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 18, 2013, 05:13:06 AM
Schottenstein?
Yes. It was posted on here when he did it before the super bowl.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Am on June 18, 2013, 09:43:13 AM
Both interviews, at halftime and after the game he said "first and foremost I have to credit G-d"
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 18, 2013, 10:21:24 AM
Both interviews, at halftime and after the game he said "first and foremost I have to credit G-d"
...and who does he give credit to when he plays poorly?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 18, 2013, 11:52:48 AM
...and who does he give credit to when he plays poorly?
I like that!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 18, 2013, 03:47:32 PM
I like that!
I am happy you like that but I would like an answer.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 18, 2013, 03:59:24 PM
Not one well played game yet. Is this the best the NBA has to offer?
Are you not entertained?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 18, 2013, 04:56:53 PM
Are you not entertained?
Are you? ???
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 18, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
Very much so.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 18, 2013, 05:11:44 PM
Are you not entertained?
I want the truth!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 18, 2013, 07:06:01 PM
I want the truth!
Ahh! A real man of God! ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 18, 2013, 07:10:10 PM
Ahh! A real man of God! ;)
Correct answer would be "You can't handle the truth!".  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 18, 2013, 07:18:02 PM
Correct answer would be "You can't handle the truth!".  :)
Well personally I enjoyed last game as opposed to game 2 which was a total waste of time (and sleep ;) )
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 18, 2013, 11:22:54 PM
Now we're talking
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 18, 2013, 11:53:45 PM
Darn.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 19, 2013, 12:15:02 AM
Darn.
Wow. How do they not call time out before the ginobli drive?
Game seven is gonna be fun
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 19, 2013, 12:19:02 AM
LBJ 1 for 3 last second 3's.
But I still think he's great!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 19, 2013, 12:20:21 AM
Now we're talking
Very intense but IMHO the Heat's coach gotta go
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on June 19, 2013, 12:21:32 AM
Very intense but IMHO the Heat's coach gotta go

Shout out to Ginobili and his 8 turnovers (including some very very costly ones).
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 19, 2013, 12:24:17 AM
Shout out to Ginobili and his 8 turnovers (including some very very costly ones).
Every time they were dishing out the threes they took the lead. Can't leave the limelight on lebron.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 12:26:14 AM
LBJ 1 for 3 last second 3's.
But I still think he's great!
Great players shine in the playoffs not fade away.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 12:27:28 AM
Now we're talking
Just because it was close at the end? Still a poorly played game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 19, 2013, 12:32:55 AM
Just because it was close at the end? Still a poorly played game.
+1 was thinking of you the whole game :D
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 19, 2013, 12:37:33 AM
Just because it was close at the end? Still a poorly played game.
I think there were streaks of brilliant basketball
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 12:49:16 AM
I think there were streaks of brilliant basketball
When you see a whole game like that let me know.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 19, 2013, 12:51:18 AM
Great players shine in the playoffs not fade away.
Agreed
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 19, 2013, 12:59:17 AM
Spurs had it in the bag. No Duncan on ray Allen 3ptr .... Led to offensive rebound. Don't know if the old men can crank out 1 more good game..
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 01:00:30 AM
Spurs had it in the bag. No Duncan on ray Allen 3ptr .... Led to offensive rebound. Don't know if the old men can crank out 1 more good game..
That one hurt.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 01:36:13 PM
All I want to know is how much Spoelstra paid Ginobli.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 01:41:37 PM
All I want to know is how much Spoelstra paid Ginobli.
it killed me to see bosh block greens shot.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 01:46:45 PM
it killed me to see bosh block greens shot.

That was one of the stupidest things I have seen in NBA history.

Vigorously defend? Certainly. To smother a three-point shooter to the extent he did and risk fouling* when down by three and putting an 85% FT shooter on the line for three uncontested shots with the finals on the line? Sheer stupidity.

*A call which would have absolutely been made had this been a regular season game, or even in that game at the end of the, say, third quarter.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 19, 2013, 01:47:25 PM
All I want to know is how much Spoelstra paid Ginobli.
Oh come on, the guy had one good game the whole season and it happened to have been game 5! :P
it killed me to see bosh block greens shot.
Yup definitely a crucial play. Lebron had one great block on Duncan.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 02:50:57 PM
That was one of the stupidest things I have seen in NBA history.

Vigorously defend? Certainly. To smother a three-point shooter to the extent he did and risk fouling* when down by three and putting an 85% FT shooter on the line for three uncontested shots with the finals on the line? Sheer stupidity.

*A call which would have absolutely been made had this been a regular season game, or even in that game at the end of the, say, third quarter.
ur right. But i think bosh had a point to prove. But it was also stipud playing. But then again why doesn't anyone foul Allen before he gets the shot off. Or even on the rebound.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: moish on June 19, 2013, 03:23:55 PM
ur right. But i think bosh had a point to prove. But it was also stipud playing. But then again why doesn't anyone foul Allen before he gets the shot off. Or even on the rebound.
pops addressed that
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 03:34:57 PM
pops addressed that
whad he say?

I love pop. I think hes prob the best coach in the league. But that was just a none headed play (as is said)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 19, 2013, 04:00:46 PM
ur right. But i think bosh had a point to prove. But it was also stipud playing. But then again why doesn't anyone foul Allen before he gets the shot off. Or even on the rebound.

Easier said than done. Bosh didn't exactly hold the ball and give an opportunity to foul. And with Allen on the shot, he basically caught the ball behind the arc. Parker barely got there at all to contest, he certainly wasn't going to be able to foul before the shot.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 04:06:12 PM
Thousands of people over the years have wondered "why didn't Player X block/foul Ray Allen?". Dude's got THE quickest release in NBA history. Next to impossible to get there in time. Questioning why Bosh wasn't fouled on the rebound has no merit either. A: I have never seen someone foul intentionally in that situation, and B: Bosh practically touch-passed it to Allen - there was no time to foul him, nor was anyone even in a good position to do it.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: moish on June 19, 2013, 04:08:02 PM
whad he say?

I love pop. I think hes prob the best coach in the league. But that was just a none headed play (as is said)
he said thats a euro play and we dont do that here
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
he said thats a euro play and we dont do that here

Ask for a requote after they lose game 7.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 04:19:37 PM
he said thats a euro play and we dont do that here

Q.  Did you take into consideration fouling up by three with the final seconds of regulation?
COACH GREGG POPOVICH:  That's a European question, right?

Q.  Yes.  We usually do in Italy and Europe, anyways.
COACH GREGG POPOVICH:  Right.  We don't.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 19, 2013, 04:36:59 PM
Q.  Did you take into consideration fouling up by three with the final seconds of regulation?
COACH GREGG POPOVICH:  That's a European question, right?

Q.  Yes.  We usually do in Italy and Europe, anyways.
COACH GREGG POPOVICH:  Right.  We don't.

He likes to deflect, but in reality it's a stupid question. The ball was behind the arc the whole time except when it was in the air for the shots, and for Bosh's rebound. As was mentioned already, there wasn't really any opportunity to foul there. So really the question is moot.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: moish on June 19, 2013, 04:49:08 PM
what are you talking about? they couldve fouled when the heat were bringing the ball down
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 04:53:55 PM
Thousands of people over the years have wondered "why didn't Player X block/foul Ray Allen?". Dude's got THE quickest release in NBA history. Next to impossible to get there in time. Questioning why Bosh wasn't fouled on the rebound has no merit either. A: I have never seen someone foul intentionally in that situation, and B: Bosh practically touch-passed it to Allen - there was no time to foul him, nor was anyone even in a good position to do it.

you obviously didnt watch the knick pacer series.

And @moish. Its just an excuse for bad coaching, and execution.

And cartin brought up a very solid point, after Allen hits the 3 Joey Crawford rips the ball out of Lenords hands and calls an officialls TO. the spurs could've had a 5-2 down the stretch.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 04:56:09 PM
Heat brought the ball down with 19 seconds left. There's no sense in turning it in to in a fouling game (in the NBA) when you already have control of the game. You won't find any competent coaches who disagree with that decision.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 04:56:44 PM
you obviously didnt watch the knick pacer series.
Always the response in a sports argument when you have no point to make.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 04:57:29 PM
Heat brought the ball down with 19 seconds left. There's no sense in turning it in to in a fouling game (in the NBA) when you already have control of the game. You won't find any competent coaches who disagree with that decision.
up 5 means nothing in the NBA?  McGrady will easily tell you 13 with 30 seconds is also nothing.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 04:58:29 PM
Always the response in a sports argument when you have no point to make.
your an idiot. No offense. I will spell t out for you. The Knicks would foul the worst free throw shooter in order for him to have to shoot the FT.
But really no offense.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 04:59:26 PM
They weren't up 5, they were up 3.

Bringing an example of the craziest spurt in NBA history shows me nothing.
your an idiot. No offense. I will spell t out for you. The Knicks would foul the worst free throw shooter in order for him to have to shoot the FT.
Doubt anyone on these boards would take offense to you calling them an idiot.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:00:40 PM
The Knicks would foul the worst free throw shooter in order for him to have to shoot the FT.
How is this is at all relevant to what I said?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 05:02:15 PM
How is this is at all relevant to what I said?
fouling would have been a good idea. 

And unique took offense to that once. But like i said with all do respect.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:05:37 PM
You asked why they didn't foul on the rebound. I said no one has ever fouled in that situation. So you counter that the Knicks fouled the worst FT shooter. Again: how is that relevant to what I said?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 05:07:21 PM
up 5 means nothing in the NBA?  McGrady will easily tell you 13 with 30 seconds is also nothing.

Most amazing thing in the NBA I've ever seen. I have the clip saved on my computer. No one believes me when I tell them he scored 13 points in ~45 seconds.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
You asked why they didn't foul on the rebound. I said no one has ever fouled in that situation. So you counter that the Knicks fouled the worst FT shooter. Again: how is that relevant to what I said?
bec when u foul a non ball handler/shooter they have to shoot. Up three and u fouls its only 2 shots.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:08:13 PM
Most amazing thing in the NBA I've ever seen. I have the clip saved on my computer. No one believes me when I tell them he scored 13 points in ~35 seconds.
FTFY. And the most amazing thing I've ever seen was LBJ's 30 straight vs the Pistons, the best defensive team of the last 20 years.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: moish on June 19, 2013, 05:08:25 PM
Heat brought the ball down with 19 seconds left. There's no sense in turning it in to in a fouling game (in the NBA) when you already have control of the game. You won't find any competent coaches who disagree with that decision.
they couldve waited a few seconds, plus there were no more time outs
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:08:48 PM
bec when u foul a non ball handler/shooter they have to shoot. Up three and u fouls its only 2 shots.
Still irrelevant. Forget it.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 05:08:55 PM
Most amazing thing in the NBA I've ever seen. I have the clip saved on my computer. No one believes me when I tell them he scored 13 points in ~45 seconds.
i remember the night it happened. It was nuts!

Its up there with Reggie. But Reggie pushed Starks down on that inbound.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 05:10:16 PM
Still irrelevant. Forget it.
i am listening to the podcast fr this morning of B&C. Listen too ull Get what im saying.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
FTFY. And the most amazing thing I've ever seen was LBJ's 30 straight vs the Pistons, the best defensive team of the last 20 years.

Was 25 straight and 29 of 30. But yeah, also amazing.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:24:39 PM
they couldve waited a few seconds, plus there were no more time outs
Realistically the foul could've came at about 15 seconds (anything less than that and the Heat were already in position to throw up a 3 and get 3 FTs). The math suggests that the logic of fouling when up 3 with that much time left (in the NBA) is flawed. Assuming a conservative FT% of 75% (and if you were fouling you'd foul the worst FT shooter on the team, so probably even lower than 75%), fouling puts them up 1.5 points with 15 seconds left (ie the FT shooter will hit 1.5 out of 2 FTs). As opposed to waiting for a 3, which will come at about 8 seconds left and at a percentage of 33% - so now they're up 2 points with 8 seconds left. (Obviously a 3 is not worth 1 point and 2 FTs are not worth 1.5 points, but that's the value of those plays in those scenarios.) There's a lot more variables (the percentage chance of grabbing a rebound after a missed FT or 3, how good of a look will a guy realistically get in that situation, hundreds of other factors), but the numbers support not fouling there. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
Not to mention - not fouling there was ultimately the right move, as the Heat did miss the 1st 3 they attempted.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:32:25 PM
Lastly - say you foul there and the Heat FT shooter does hit both. You're now up 1 with 15 seconds left and likely going to the line. What's to say your FT shooter hits both? What's to say that the Heat then don't come back down and hit a game winning 3? 15 seconds is a ton of time, especially when you have a guy who can cross the length of the court in 1 giant step. You're in control of the game, why give away even an ounce of that control? Why force your guys to have to hit FTs? Even if you do hit both of your subsequent FTs, the Heat are now still down by 3, just with 4 fewer seconds. There's really nothing non-emotional to support fouling in that 15-19 second range.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 19, 2013, 05:35:01 PM
No one is arguing to foul with fifteen seconds left. your arguments are obvious. The discussion is regarding fouling later, which is probably a moot discussion as they had no opportunity
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:36:15 PM
No one is arguing to foul with fifteen seconds left. your arguments are obvious. The discussion is regarding fouling later, which is probably a moot discussion as they had no opportunity
Of course I agree its moot, but look back in this thread and you'll see that the 2 people I'm arguing with don't see it that way.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2013, 05:38:15 PM
No one is arguing to foul with fifteen seconds left.
Someone is:
they couldve waited a few seconds, plus there were no more time outs
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Ergel on June 19, 2013, 05:43:49 PM
Someone is:
Well you're correct, that's a silly suggestion
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 19, 2013, 06:11:56 PM
I made the point earlier, it's not so easy to foul the ball handler when they're behind the arc without giving them a chance to turn it into a shooting foul. Hence my point about the ball never dipping inside the 3 point line on that possession until the rebound.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 19, 2013, 06:14:57 PM
Just because it was close at the end? Still a poorly played game.

CV, it's amazing how much of a dinosaur you are on this issue. In the words of possibly the best X's and O's oriented NBA writer out there today, "this was an insanely well-played game (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/66008/10-key-thoughts-on-the-greatest-most-insane-nba-finals-game-in-years)". Read the whole article (or any of his articles from the playoffs). You'll realize how little you actually know about the game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 19, 2013, 06:25:56 PM
All I want to know is how much Spoelstra paid Ginobli.
You mean payed the refs? He was clearly fouled. How can you blame a guy for drawing the foul just because it wasn't called?
FTFY. And the most amazing thing I've ever seen was LBJ's 30 straight vs the Pistons, the best defensive team of the last 20 years.
I think I still have a heart condition from that game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 07:20:14 PM
You mean payed the refs? He was clearly fouled. How can you blame a guy for drawing the foul just because it wasn't called?

Your comment can only mean you only turned on the game with less than 60 seconds left.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 19, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
Your comment can only mean you only turned on the game with less than 60 seconds left.
I just assumed that is what you were referring to. Sorry. And yes unfortunately my internet  (when it was working) cut in and out all game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 07:41:24 PM
I just assumed that is what you were referring to. Sorry. And yes unfortunately my internet  (when it was working) cut in and out all game.

Nope. He played absolutely terribly.

35 mins, 2/5 from the field, four fouls and--count 'em--eight turnovers.

No, his four boards and three assists to not even begin to compensate for that abysmal performance.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 11:25:06 PM
CV, it's amazing how much of a dinosaur you are on this issue. In the words of possibly the best X's and O's oriented NBA writer out there today, "this was an insanely well-played game (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/66008/10-key-thoughts-on-the-greatest-most-insane-nba-finals-game-in-years)". Read the whole article (or any of his articles from the playoffs). You'll realize how little you actually know about the game.
That guy is a complete idiot.
"But in terms of the stakes at hand, the palpable urgency, and the overall quality of play, this was the greatest Finals game since Ö Iím not sure when."

What game was this guy watching? Exciting at the end, yes. No way was this a well played game. Four of the big six had poor games. LaBum plays only in the forth. You believe what some sports writer tells you and I will believe what I saw.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: myb821 on June 19, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
That guy is a complete idiot.
"But in terms of the stakes at hand, the palpable urgency, and the overall quality of play, this was the greatest Finals game since Ö Iím not sure when."

What game was this guy watching? Exciting at the end, yes. No way was this a well played game. Four of the big six had poor games. LaBum plays only in the forth. You believe what some sports writer tells you and I will believe what I saw.
shouldnt you be watching the game
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 19, 2013, 11:31:15 PM
That guy is a complete idiot.
"But in terms of the stakes at hand, the palpable urgency, and the overall quality of play, this was the greatest Finals game since Ö Iím not sure when."

What game was this guy watching? Exciting at the end, yes. No way was this a well played game. Four of the big six had poor games. LaBum plays only in the forth. You believe what some sports writer tells you and I will believe what I saw.

Put on your glasses old man. Maybe you'll see what everyone else does.

ETA - Just in case, I should mention I mean this all in good fun. Let me know if it's too much.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: myb821 on June 19, 2013, 11:31:39 PM
Put on your glasses old man. Maybe you'll see what everyone else does.
chill man
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 11:39:38 PM
Put on your glasses old man. Maybe you'll see what everyone else does.

ETA - Just in case, I should mention I mean this all in good fun. Let me know if it's too much.
Good fun is fine but lets look at the box score and see how the big six did. To many of the big players had a bad game for this to be even a averaged played game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 11:41:07 PM
shouldnt you be watching the game
Multitasking, even at my age that is possible.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 19, 2013, 11:44:05 PM
Good fun is fine but lets look at the box score and see how the big six did. To many of the big players had a bad game for this to be even a averaged played game.
And CV knows what he's talking about he used to coach basketball. Right?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 19, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
And CV knows what he's talking about he used to coach basketball. Right?
I did coach but not for that long. Soccer is my life.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 19, 2013, 11:54:00 PM
Good fun is fine but lets look at the box score and see how the big six did. To many of the big players had a bad game for this to be even a averaged played game.

I figured a guy whose glory days were the Jordan era Bulls has gotta appreciate a little trash talk, just like Mike.

Back to the point. Which one do you want me to look at, the box score or the game. Not every turnover or missed shot is created equal. Some are bad offensive play and some are forced by brilliant defensive play. You have to know what's going on to tell the difference.

And CV knows what he's talking about he used to coach basketball. Right?

I coached basketball too, but not in the NBA. You won't find a writer with a better understanding of the game the way it's played today than Zach Lowe.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 20, 2013, 12:05:50 AM
I did coach but not for that long. Soccer is my life.  :)
Glad my memory isn't going yet.

When's the next soccer game? Maybe I'll come by to root for the other team :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 20, 2013, 12:07:27 AM
Back to the point. Which one do you want me to look at, the box score or the game.
Since you seem to be watching a different game, the box score.  :P

P.S. Maybe you should have that idiot explain the box score to you.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 20, 2013, 12:09:29 AM
When's the next soccer game? Maybe I'll come by to root for the other team :P
Then there will be over 90% chance you will root for the loser.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 20, 2013, 12:22:58 AM
Since you seem to be watching a different game, the box score.  :P

P.S. Maybe you should have that idiot explain the box score to you.  :)

Ah yes, wonderful tactic. Quote only the part of the sentence that was meant in jest, that way you don't have to respond to the part of substance.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 20, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
You won't find a writer with a better understanding of the game the way it's played today than Zach Lowe.
I have never +1'ed in my life, but +1000000 to that.

This series has been incredible. Weird, yes. Some games not close, yes. But the quality of play has been through the roof. It blows my mind that some people are complaining that the series hasn't been entertaining. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 20, 2013, 12:20:29 PM
But the quality of play has been through the roof.
I will take this as a joke.  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 20, 2013, 12:20:57 PM

Q.  Did you take into consideration fouling up by three with the final seconds of regulation?
COACH GREGG POPOVICH:  That's a European question, right?

Q.  Yes.  We usually do in Italy and Europe, anyways.
COACH GREGG POPOVICH:  Right.  We don't.
last time I checked, 2 of his stars are European and play European style (run around and throw up circus shots)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 20, 2013, 02:47:56 PM
last time I checked, 2 of his stars are European and play European style (run around and throw up circus shots)

I'd hardly call Parker a European basketball player. He spent 2 years as a kid in France and joined the Spurs as an 18 year old. In fact, attacking the rim is supposed to be the American way of playing.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on June 20, 2013, 03:14:53 PM
I will take this as a joke.  ::)
Your loss.
I'd hardly call Parker a European basketball player. He spent 2 years as a kid in France and joined the Spurs as an 18 year old. In fact, attacking the rim is supposed to be the American way of playing.
Parker may not play a Euro style per se (although "run around and throw up circus shots" does not define Euro ball at all), but the Spurs of the last 2 years are the closest I've ever seen any NBA team coming to playing Euro style.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 20, 2013, 03:59:34 PM
I will take this as a joke.  ::)

I'm sure you're craving some more of the Lowe-down, so here (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/66101/everything-matters-how-to-understand-and-enjoy-game-7-of-the-nba-finals) it is.  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 20, 2013, 04:13:16 PM
I'm sure you're craving some more of the Lowe-down, so here (http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/66101/everything-matters-how-to-understand-and-enjoy-game-7-of-the-nba-finals) it is.  ;D
Did he ever play the game?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on June 20, 2013, 05:05:41 PM
Did he ever play the game?

I have no idea. But your insinuation that you have to have played to write coherently on the topic is absurd. And what level of play exactly qualifies one? HS? NBA? Rec league? Makes no sense.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 20, 2013, 05:14:37 PM
I have no idea. But your insinuation that you have to have played to write coherently on the topic is absurd. And what level of play exactly qualifies one? HS? NBA? Rec league? Makes no sense.
What is absurd is your assumption. Playing the game gives you a different perspective. There have been great coaches that have not played the game but it helps if you have played the game. Stop being so defensive.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
just rewatched the whole fourth! shoudlve fouled bosh right away on the rebound, ESP bec dunkin was not in! and allen traveled! watch the play again and again, he catches the ball with two feet infront of the lie one is a pivot somehow they both end up behind the line,
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 20, 2013, 07:06:05 PM

just rewatched the whole fourth! shoudlve fouled bosh right away on the rebound, ESP bec dunkin was not in! and allen traveled! watch the play again and again, he catches the ball with two feet infront of the lie one is a pivot somehow they both end up behind the line,
+1 on the travel. Was thinking about it all day, how he got back
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:25:57 PM
The Spurs play such sloppy basketball. Hard to watch.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:32:37 PM
Why is Danny Green still shooting the ball??
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on June 20, 2013, 11:34:41 PM
Ginobili is a rollercoaster ride.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 20, 2013, 11:35:59 PM

Ginobili is a rollercoaster ride.
Why is Danny Green still shooting the ball??
The Spurs play such sloppy basketball. Hard to watch.
+1 I want T-MAC!!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:38:53 PM
Paging Mr. Parker:
There's a game tonight, where are you?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on June 20, 2013, 11:39:34 PM
Kawhi Leonard has been great.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:40:00 PM
Anyone else getting the munchies after all this chanting of "Les go eat, Les go eat"
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:40:29 PM
Kawhi Leonard has been great.
Yes but he needs to lay off the 3s already.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 11:48:08 PM
Ginobli loses another one.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:49:03 PM
Ginobili is a rollercoaster ride.
Yatzah s'charo b'hefsedo.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Kvending on June 20, 2013, 11:49:16 PM
Over. C'mon Spurs.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:50:13 PM
Over. C'mon Spurs.
Pathetic. Mindboggling turnovers all game long.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 20, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
Lebron James wins back to back Finals, and back to back Season MVP's.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 20, 2013, 11:52:46 PM
Anyone else getting the munchies after all this chanting of "Les go eat, Les go eat"
A jealous Clevelander  ;) :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on June 20, 2013, 11:53:17 PM
I hope they vote for Ginobili for MVP. 4 costly 4th quarter turnovers in addition to his 8 in game 6.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:53:46 PM
I hope they vote for Ginobili for MVP. 4 costly 4th quarter turnovers in addition to his 8 in game 6.
Should share it with Parker
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 20, 2013, 11:54:26 PM
Lebron James plays 50 minutes in Game 6, and almost the whole Game 7 in which he scored 37!
#All Time Great
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:56:03 PM
We get it. He's good. He's really good. Nobody disputes that  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dhalpern1 on June 20, 2013, 11:56:18 PM
Should share it with Parker

Parker didnt step up (theres no way he is 100%- i think he is hurt), but at least he didnt go renegade and turn the ball over every chance he got.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 20, 2013, 11:57:43 PM
We get it. He's good. He's really good. Nobody disputes that  ::)
He's not really good, he's an all time great.
I like needling Clevelanders. Nothing personal.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2013, 12:01:47 AM
He's not really good, he's an all time great.
I like needling Clevelanders. Nothing personal.
Fine he's great, he's awesome, blah blah blah.

He's also a 1st class A$$ who will always be hated for the lowlife manner in which he stabbed his native hometown in the back on national TV (after promising to bring a trophy to a region that hasn't seen one since 1964). Not only hated by Clevelanders mind you but nationwide.

There's a reason 95% of people outside of FL were rooting for him to lose (after all they all go back to their loser lifes while he goes back to his millions as he said after losing to Dallas).  That's never happened to other greats before.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 21, 2013, 12:29:22 AM
I had to turn off the TV.

Who won MVP?

Ginobili?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 12:36:16 AM
I had to turn off the TV.

Who won MVP?

Ginobili?
Don't you remember the great Green was crowned MVP after game five. To bad there was two more games to be played.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2013, 12:46:55 AM
Don't you remember the great Green was crowned MVP after game five. To bad there was two more games to be played.  :)
How did Pop let him stay in today for 36 minutes :o
1-12 FG >:(
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 21, 2013, 12:48:16 AM
That's easy. He didn't have 8 turnovers in the first 44 mins of the game.

But managed to turn it over on the last meaningful play of the game and then brick a 40 foot chucker of a three.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 12:55:30 AM
How did Pop let him stay in today for 36 minutes :o
1-12 FG >:(
You will have to ask Zach Lowe (skyguy918) who calls him the greatest coach in the game today.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
You will have to ask Zach Lowe (skyguy918) who calls him the greatest coach in the game today.  :)
Maybe he was 6 years ago. Those days are gone, these games were mismanaged IMHO.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 12:59:56 AM
It was hard to watch Duncan in these playoffs. It takes nothing away from his hall of fame career but was still hard to watch.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 21, 2013, 01:01:21 AM
It was hard to watch Duncan in these playoffs. It takes nothing away from his hall of fame career but was still hard to watch.

Not sure what you're implying, but his series on the whole, especially game 6 and 7 were excellent. He was the only thing keeping them afloat. Well, he and leonard.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
It was hard to watch Duncan in these playoffs. It takes nothing away from his hall of fame career but was still hard to watch.
It was hard to watch the entire team except for Green in the first 2/3rds of the series.  If only they played like this in 2007 :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 21, 2013, 01:02:46 AM
Not sure what you're implying, but his series on the whole, especially game 6 and 7 were excellent. He was the only thing keeping them afloat. Well, he and leonard.
Indeed, much harder to watch ginobli, parker, and green for these past couple games. Truly cringe-worthy basketball.
Hard to believe it was even close.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 01:20:38 AM
Not sure what you're implying, but his series on the whole, especially game 6 and 7 were excellent. He was the only thing keeping them afloat. Well, he and leonard.
He is one of the greats at his position. I am not saying he had a bad series. Seeing him being pulled at the end of game 6 is not the Duncan I know.  :(  If it was the Duncan of a few years ago this series would have been over in 5. I know you canít live in the past.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 21, 2013, 01:25:52 AM
Fine he's great, he's awesome, blah blah blah.

He's also a 1st class A$$ who will always be hated for the lowlife manner in which he stabbed his native hometown in the back on national TV (after promising to bring a trophy to a region that hasn't seen one since 1964). Not only hated by Clevelanders mind you but nationwide.

There's a reason 95% of people outside of FL were rooting for him to lose (after all they all go back to their loser lifes while he goes back to his millions as he said after losing to Dallas).  That's never happened to other greats before.
The fact is Lebron has less of an ego than Jordan and Kobe, anyone that watches him play knows that. And btw 95% of the country is not anti Lebron anymore. But this is sports talk, calm down.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 21, 2013, 01:32:32 AM
The fact is Lebron has less of an ego than Jordan and Kobe, anyone that watches him play knows that. And btw 95% of the country is not anti Lebron anymore. But this is sports talk, calm down.
What does ego have to do with being a not nice person? And he shouldn't have an ego like Jordan because he isn't as good as Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 01:33:45 AM
The fact is Lebron has less of an ego than Jordan and Kobe, anyone that watches him play knows that.
When you are smoking that stuff remember it is puff, puff then pass. From your post it seems you are forgetting the pass part.  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 21, 2013, 01:36:28 AM
When you are smoking that stuff remember it is puff, puff then pass. From your post it seems you are forgetting the pass part.  ::)
I guess you don't realize how unselfish a player Lebron is. He could have scored 60 points tonight if he wanted to.

Btw, Magic Johnson told Lebron tonight that he believes Lebron can go down as the greatest to ever play the game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 21, 2013, 01:39:24 AM
I guess you don't realize how unselfish a player Lebron is. He could have scored 60 points tonight if he wanted to.
Wishful thinking.
Btw, Magic Johnson told Lebron tonight that he believes Lebron can go down as the greatest to ever play the game.
Anyone COULD, they simply aren't though.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 21, 2013, 01:39:45 AM
There's a reason 95% of people outside of FL were rooting for him to lose
so true, all my buddies were rooting for the spurs because they hate Lebron
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 21, 2013, 01:41:04 AM
Does anyone realize that the only 3 people to win 2 Finals and win 4 Regular season MVP's are MJ Kareem and Lebron?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 01:41:46 AM
I guess you don't realize how unselfish a player Lebron is. He could have scored 60 points tonight if he wanted to.
...and how many could have he scored in game five? Let's be real here and don't make yourself look foolish talking about MJ and Lebron in the same sentence.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 21, 2013, 01:51:05 AM
...and how many could have he scored in game five? Let's be real here and don't make yourself look foolish talking about MJ and Lebron in the same sentence.  ;)
old men don't like to see their guys get beat. but theres a real chance lebron will surpass mj.
#wrongsideofhistory

He'll end up with more MVPs than mj and 4 or more finals.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 02:47:54 AM
old men don't like to see their guys get beat. but theres a real chance lebron will surpass mj.
#wrongsideofhistory

He'll end up with more MVPs than mj and 4 or more finals.
That is some excellent stuff you are smoking. I have to get my hands on that. LaBum canít even beat a double team let alone a triple. Look at the team that just took them to seven games. Do you really think the level of play is what it was a few years ago? Guys like Rodman and Pippen would shut LaBum down without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: henche on June 21, 2013, 03:42:13 AM
Pretty disappointing finish. I wanted a cool comeback like last game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 21, 2013, 03:44:37 AM
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Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 21, 2013, 07:41:09 AM

When you are smoking that stuff remember it is puff, puff then pass. From your post it seems you are forgetting the pass part.  ::)
+1
"Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, "
"Take my talents to south beach"
Sounds pretty egotistical to me

Ruined the nba
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Hudi on June 21, 2013, 09:45:51 AM
This is great therapy
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on June 21, 2013, 09:49:19 AM
+1
"Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, "
"Take my talents to south beach"
Sounds pretty egotistical to me

Ruined the nba

Ruined the NBA? The NBA has NEVER been this popular before
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 21, 2013, 11:42:59 AM

This is great therapy

+1 bosh collapsing in tunnel... Was hoping to see this again this yr...
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 21, 2013, 11:44:32 AM

Ruined the NBA? The NBA has NEVER been this popular before
from a competition aspect. He created the stars teaming up trend. Made less teams competitive.  He's a wuss.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 21, 2013, 12:07:45 PM
Ruined the NBA? The NBA has NEVER been this popular before
popularity =/= good basketball.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 21, 2013, 12:08:05 PM
Pathetic

http://youtu.be/gZc1_BiiPoo
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 21, 2013, 12:19:24 PM
a great player should be great weather he wins or loses. tim dunkin is a great player, no one is doubting it, even though he lost this yr. but how can there really be a compelling argument that lebron is a great, if the heat lose this game, he is a lowlife, and he is killed for the rest of his carer. funny how one game decides if hes geat or not, yet, dunkin, kobe, and a heck of a lot others have lost in the finals yet we still call them greats
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 21, 2013, 12:23:09 PM
a great player should be great weather he wins or loses. tim dunkin is a great player, no one is doubting it, even though he lost this yr. but how can there really be a compelling argument that lebron is a great, if the heat lose this game, he is a lowlife, and he is killed for the rest of his carer. funny how one game decides if hes geat or not, yet, dunkin, kobe, and a heck of a lot others have lost in the finals yet we still call them greats
Huh? Dunkin and Kobe are great because they won.

And obviously it's one game that decides winning and losing. In 10 years from now people remember who won not who almost won. Clevelanders know that better than anyone. Getting close counts for zilch!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 21, 2013, 12:23:53 PM

a great player should be great weather he wins or loses. tim dunkin is a great player, no one is doubting it, even though he lost this yr. but how can there really be a compelling argument that lebron is a great, if the heat lose this game, he is a lowlife, and he is killed for the rest of his carer. funny how one game decides if hes geat or not, yet, dunkin, kobe, and a heck of a lot others have lost in the finals yet we still call them greats
+1 , rots you finally got the "great" thing right ;-)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 21, 2013, 12:41:15 PM
+1 , rots you finally got the "great" thing right ;-)
Look at any list of the top 5 greatest players. They all have one thing in common, they won many championships.

Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 21, 2013, 02:57:40 PM
A bunch of Clevelanders in denial.
The fact is
Every year that passes Lebron's popularity grows.
He's on his way to becoming an all time great.
Even Clevelanders' children will look at their fathers strange, when they tell them that Lebron wasn't a great. They'll tell their dad's - "you're bitter".

But if Lebron goes back to Cleveland in a few years even they will jump on the bandwagon.
Lebron is the most fascinating athlete to watch since MJ. If you don't recognize this, you're bitter.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 21, 2013, 03:39:02 PM

A bunch of Clevelanders in denial.
The fact is
Every year that passes Lebron's popularity grows.
He's on his way to becoming an all time great.
Even Clevelanders' children will look at their fathers strange, when they tell them that Lebron wasn't a great. They'll tell their dad's - "you're bitter".

But if Lebron goes back to Cleveland in a few years even they will jump on the bandwagon.
Lebron is the most fascinating athlete to watch since MJ. If you don't recognize this, you're bitter.
hi, my name is J. I've never been to Cleveland in my life. And I hate lebron James.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: jj1000 on June 21, 2013, 08:33:04 PM
A bunch of Clevelanders in denial.
The fact is
Every year that passes Lebron's popularity grows.
He's on his way to becoming an all time great.
Even Clevelanders' children will look at their fathers strange, when they tell them that Lebron wasn't a great. They'll tell their dad's - "you're bitter".

But if Lebron goes back to Cleveland in a few years even they will jump on the bandwagon.
Lebron is the most fascinating athlete to watch since MJ. If you don't recognize this, you're bitter.
You are more blinded than anyone from Cleveland.

Read the last few pages and you won't see anyone from Cleveland saying Lebum isn't a great player or that they hate how he plays.

You'll see that Cleveland hates his personality and how he acts as a human. Which is far more important than basketball skills where I grew up.

If he comes back to Cleveland. It will be a decision by management, but I guarantee many fans will not go to games
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 21, 2013, 08:36:56 PM
but I guarantee many fans will not go to games
That will be because the games will be sold out and they can't get tickets.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 23, 2013, 12:58:29 AM
You are more blinded than anyone from Cleveland.

Read the last few pages and you won't see anyone from Cleveland saying Lebum isn't a great player or that they hate how he plays.

You'll see that Cleveland hates his personality and how he acts as a human. Which is far more important than basketball skills where I grew up.

If he comes back to Cleveland. It will be a decision by management, but I guarantee many fans will not go to games
You care about some guy in Miami's actions as a human because he acted in a way you didn't like. All I care about is the athlete. Obviously if the guy is a really bad human I wouldn't be able to be a fan of him. But you hate the guy for having a few personality flaws (which i happen to think clevelanders over exaggerate)?.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: henche on June 23, 2013, 01:31:42 AM
Lo kam b'basketball k'michael od.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on June 23, 2013, 12:17:42 PM
You are more blinded than anyone from Cleveland.

Read the last few pages and you won't see anyone from Cleveland saying Lebum isn't a great player or that they hate how he plays.

You'll see that Cleveland hates his personality and how he acts as a human. Which is far more important than basketball skills where I grew up.

If he comes back to Cleveland. It will be a decision by management, but I guarantee many fans will not go to games

Your nuts. If he comes back to CLE 100% is forgotten.

You are talking about a city that hasn't one any title in the majority of its residents lifetimes

He will be more popular than ever because this time he chose CLE, as opposed to the draft when CLE chose him
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2013, 12:20:05 PM
http://instagram.com/p/a1qDuViTBw/
http://instagram.com/p/a4Ao1xCTMS/#
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 23, 2013, 01:06:30 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2013, 07:05:46 PM
::)
My thoughts exactly :D


A bunch of Clevelanders in denial.
Every year that passes Lebron's popularity grows.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/21/news/companies/lebron-james-endorsements/index.html?iid=HP_LN
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 23, 2013, 07:23:18 PM
It's really pretty simple.

LeBron will *never* get out from under the negativity that was caused by his ignominious departure from CLE.

He irrevocably shot himself in the foot due to his immaturity -- "I'm going to take my talents to South Beach" will go down as one of the most ill-conceived utterances in sports history.

Shame, really, because he is *that* talented.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2013, 07:32:25 PM
It's really pretty simple.

LeBron will *never* get out from under the negativity that was caused by his ignominious departure from CLE.

He irrevocably shot himself in the foot due to his immaturity -- "I'm going to take my talents to South Beach" will go down as one of the most ill-conceived utterances in sports history.

Shame, really, because he is *that* talented.
Couldn't have said it better.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on June 23, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
It's really pretty simple.

LeBron will *never* get out from under the negativity that was caused by his ignominious departure from CLE.

He irrevocably shot himself in the foot due to his immaturity -- "I'm going to take my talents to South Beach" will go down as one of the most ill-conceived utterances in sports history.

Shame, really, because he is *that* talented.

Absolutely.

But if he wins a title in Cleveland, all will be forgotten by their fans.

Just for fun, I'll quote Dan Gilbert:

"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER 'KING' WINS ONE"
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 23, 2013, 07:42:29 PM
The problem with LB is his work ethic. I don't see that changing any time soon.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 23, 2013, 09:37:42 PM



But if he wins a title in Cleveland, all will be forgotten by their fans.

says alot about clev fans..
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 23, 2013, 09:38:50 PM
says alot about clev fans..
Has nothing to do with Clev. The same would happen in any city.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2013, 09:40:47 PM
Has nothing to do with Clev. The same would happen in any city.
Everyone calls into the local ESPN radio talking the big talk about not wanting him back and hoping that Gilbert gets that message.

But sadly I think you're right though I don't think there's more than a 1% chance of him wanting to work for Gilbert.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 23, 2013, 09:41:25 PM
Just for fun, I'll quote Dan Gilbert:

"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER 'KING' WINS ONE"
Mark Cuban wannabe.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 23, 2013, 09:54:53 PM

Mark Cuban wannabe.
+1
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 23, 2013, 09:55:32 PM

Has nothing to do with Clev. The same would happen in any city.
has everything to do. They have gone thru so much heartbreak, they wud do a/t to win
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 23, 2013, 10:07:24 PM
has everything to do. They have gone thru so much heartbreak, they wud do a/t to win
You missed the point. If LB left any city the same way (Chicago, LA, NY or pick one) and came back to win a title they all would welcome him back with open arms. Sports fans are addicts looking for their next fix. Just look at the NHL this year after the strike.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 23, 2013, 10:49:32 PM
Dug up this old article



LeBron being LeBron
Updated: June 6, 2012, 1:35 AM ET
By Rick Reilly | ESPN.com

LeBron James is having another great post-season. But don't tell that to his critics.
This whole We Hate LeBron thing reminds me of a story.

A woman is in front of an apartment house that's engulfed in flames. She's screaming, "Help! Help! My baby's in there!"

A man sprints up and says, "Which floor?"

"Tenth!" she screams. "In the back!"

He rips off his coat and goes running in. Five minutes later, he's back, coughing, choking, and handing the woman the baby.

She looks at the man with a frown and sniffs, "He had a hat."

That's life for LeBron James.

Anything short of an NBA title makes James a useless wad of pre-chewed pork gristle in your eyes. Whatever he does -- three MVPs in nine seasons -- it's never enough.

You hate him -- still! -- for the way he botched the announcement of his free-agent move from Cleveland to Miami.

Forget that hundreds of people move from Cleveland to Miami every year.

Forget that dozens of NBA players change teams every year.

It was only one mistake. Has he showed up in any police reports since? Has he cheated on his fiancťe ? Has he left his children stranded in the pick-up circle at school?

Has he refused to speak to reporters after a single game this season? Has he called out his teammates for their poor play, as Kobe Bryant did twice this postseason? Has he gotten his coach fired? Been fined for criticizing refs? Asked to be traded, released or named general manager?

Has he punched anybody? Choked anybody? Screamed at any parking valets? (Mom doesn't count.)

Smashed a chair? Drop-kicked any equipment? Tiger Woods does that on the front nine.

OK, LeBron is not perfect. Threw a Gatorade cup. Punched a walking stick. Carries that stupid little man purse. But if you were to fill a plane with the most spoiled superstars in the country, he'd be boarding in the D group.

You despise him because he passes too much. Imagine that. You hate a modern NBA player for not being selfish.

OK, I'd like to see him use his bag of hoop tricks to drive more at the end of games, too. But it's not like he hasn't done it, dozens and dozens of times, including huge fourth quarters against Boston and Chicago in last season's playoffs.

You people seem to want him to take it every single time, even with Dwyane Wade as a teammate. And Chris Bosh. But it's The Big Three, isn't it? Not The Big One.

And just so you know: In playoff games, LeBron has taken 13 final shots in tight games in regulation and hit five of them to win or tie. Kobe has taken twice that and hit only seven. Can we all just take a Xanax?

Besides, he passes so exquisitely. His passes are clairvoyant, leading teammates to places they didn't even know they were supposed to go. They're as soft and buttery as croissants. Why wouldn't you want him passing?

And why is the hoops world so hypercritical of this one thing when he's so brilliant at every other part of the game? Defense? He's guarded every position against the Celtics -- the 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. "He's guarded everybody but me," says Celtics coach Doc Rivers.

Only Rajon Rondo is even close in all-around brilliance this postseason. James is second in points, fourth in steals, 10th in assists, second in minutes. He leads his team in double-doubles and the league in double standards. Wade missed an open jumper to lose Game 4 in overtime -- how come he's not "scared"?

Last year, you hated him for being a shrinker. Now you hate him for not being a closer. Every game, he must CLOSE. Was Magic Johnson a closer? A few times, yes. Every freaking time? No. And by the way, most of the time James doesn't need to close because he has been so drop-your-popcorn good the entire game.

Aren't we still playing the game of basketball? What happened to attacking the defense where it's softest? What's wrong with looking for the open shot? Aren't his 12 teammates getting paid, too?

People -- enough. This whole "Crown or Drown" thinking on James has to stop. Grown men are actually strapping microphones to their ties and saying that if James doesn't win the title, the Heat ought to be broken up. For what? For making the Finals last year? For making (at least) the Eastern finals this year? James has been with these guys only two seasons. It took Michelangelo four years to paint the Sistine Chapel. You people would've fired him in two?

But I think the reason you hate LeBron James the most is that he just doesn't seem to suffer his failures as much as you'd like him to. You want him to brood like Kobe after losses, glare like Jordan when things don't go his way, scream at teammates like Tom Brady when they're behind.

That's not James. His spirit is too light. He's too much fun. He's a 6-foot-8 pixie, a 27-year-old kid who's addicted to kidding. He's a genuinely sweet person. You think of the great athletes of our generation -- Jordan, Woods, Lance Armstrong. They all had a bit of the jerk gene in them. James is missing it. He is loved by his teammates, not feared. So sue.

That's probably going to work against him in the long run. It will keep him from being Jordan or Kobe or Kareem. It will keep him from being enough.

But isn't that somebody you want your kids to have as their hero?

Hat or no hat?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 23, 2013, 10:55:45 PM

You missed the point. If LB left any city the same way (Chicago, LA, NY or pick one) and came back to win a title they all would welcome him back with open arms. Sports fans are addicts looking for their next fix. Just look at the NHL this year after the strike.
ya or no. Bottom line is he did a really stupid thing that will haunt him forever.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2013, 06:28:29 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151743389166663
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on June 25, 2013, 06:33:08 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151743389166663

Lol. The one knock against Jordan is that he wasnt a team player
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 06:38:10 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151743389166663
LOVE IT!!! great find!!! so true.... YES (marv albert voice)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 25, 2013, 06:41:02 PM
The one knock against Jordan is that he wasnt a team player
MJ is a bum. All he cared about was himself. This guy never gave 100%. He was so selfish he never could make the players around him any better. He could not win a championship with his own team so he packed his bags and went to Miami. This is why everyone hates him and it will never change.  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
MJ is a bum. All he cared about was himself. This guy never gave 100%. He was so selfish he never could make the players around him any better. He could not win a championship with his own team so he packed his bags and went to Miami. This is why everyone hates him and it will never change.  ::)

MJ?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 06:42:12 PM
MJ is a bum. All he cared about was himself. This guy never gave 100%. He was so selfish he never could make the players around him any better. He could not win a championship with his own team so he packed his bags and went to Miami. This is why everyone hates him and it will never change.  ::)
sarcasm!?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 25, 2013, 06:44:01 PM
MJ?
sarcasm!?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 06:45:02 PM


...then what's Miami doing in there?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 06:47:27 PM

i got it, trying to say he made evryone around him 'players' we would have no intrest if scottie pippin punched a guy in the face of punched me in the face, but since he was mj's wing man he is scottie pipin. and the rest goes for everyone of the others. hey what happened to the dumb post after dans but before mine? about how jordan never passed anyways and his players were horrible?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 25, 2013, 06:56:28 PM
...then what's Miami doing in there?
Everyone it seems now wants to compare MJ and LB. About the only thing they have in common is they both play/ed basketball.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 25, 2013, 06:58:18 PM
hey what happened to the dumb post after dans but before mine? about how jordan never passed anyways and his players were horrible?
Who made that post?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
Who made that post?
ahh mr damaxer. i usually like what he says, but i am not a fan
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Baruch on June 25, 2013, 10:57:16 PM
Everyone it seems now wants to compare MJ and LB. About the only thing they have in common is they both play/ed basketball.
And they both are in the top 10 to ever play the game.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on June 26, 2013, 01:36:56 AM
And they both are in the top 10 to ever play the game.
One of them is for sure.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: SamKey on June 26, 2013, 05:39:30 AM
One of them is for sure.  :P
Oh Chicagoons! ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 28, 2013, 08:28:07 AM
Anyone wana weigh in on nets trade for Garnett and pierce ? (Mods maybe change thread name to "NBA News discussion" or s/t)
I think it's a desperate move by prokorov,
Gives nets toughness , but they are so old.

Don't think there are enough touches to make Garnett, pierce, joe Johnson, dwill (scoring pg) to make every1 happy.

Coach Kidd has his hands full.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Menachem613 on June 28, 2013, 08:31:12 AM
Anyone wana weigh in on nets trade for Garnett and pierce ? (Mods maybe change thread name to "NBA News discussion" or s/t)
I think it's a desperate move by prokorov,
Gives nets toughness , but they are so old.

Don't think there are enough touches to make Garnett, pierce, joe Johnson, dwill (scoring pg) to make every1 happy.

Coach Kidd has his hands full.

I think it's a good move for both teams, assuming Kidd can figure a way to make them all work, even if means less touches.  I think KG and JJ will take a look at Miami and realize that it's possible to co-exist and win. 
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 28, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
Anyone wana weigh in on nets trade for Garnett and pierce ? (Mods maybe change thread name to "NBA News discussion" or s/t)
I think it's a desperate move by prokorov,
Gives nets toughness , but they are so old.

Don't think there are enough touches to make Garnett, pierce, joe Johnson, dwill (scoring pg) to make every1 happy.

Coach Kidd has his hands full.
i didnt have to much time today but yes lets switch this to just NBA thread.

I have been saying i like the move. Makes them real. It will def give a missing boost that Wallace was supposed to bring to the table. And terry a legit get off the bench. I do believe 3 first rnd picks is nuts. Nuts ok. And yes there old but so are a lot of the others. Boston is rebuilding and its really Indy and chi who is going to be legit. I think overall the move is pretty decent and worthwhile.

I just hope it doesn't blow up in there faces breminds me of when the mets at the all star break trade away promising prospect Scott Kazmir for victor zambrano. They thought that was there missing piece and it all blew up that season.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 28, 2013, 09:37:59 AM
i didnt have to much time today but yes lets switch this to just NBA thread.

I have been saying i like the move. Makes them real. It will def give a missing boost that Wallace was supposed to bring to the table. And terry a legit get off the bench. I do believe 3 first rnd picks is nuts. Nuts ok. And yes there old but so are a lot of the others. Boston is rebuilding and its really Indy and chi who is going to be legit. I think overall the move is pretty decent and worthwhile.

I just hope it doesn't blow up in there faces breminds me of when the mets at the all star break trade away promising prospect Scott Kazmir for victor zambrano. They thought that was there missing piece and it all blew up that season.
draft picks also bothered me, but nba draft isnt like nfl or mlb, especially if nets think they will be competitive for awhile,so picks wont be high,
however i wouldve saved them for a better trade.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 28, 2013, 10:07:09 AM
draft picks also bothered me, but nba draft isnt like nfl or mlb, especially if nets think they will be competitive for awhile,so picks wont be high,
however i wouldve saved them for a better trade.
i don't think so. TheyLl be good for a good 5-7 yrs now. And they really have a legit chance. Even with an old kg or old pp. there Hall of famers and still good!
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on June 28, 2013, 12:42:27 PM
i don't think so. TheyLl be good for a good 5-7 yrs now. And they really have a legit chance. Even with an old kg or old pp. there Hall of famers and still good!
good or great?  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Am on June 28, 2013, 02:33:58 PM
i don't think so. TheyLl be good for a good 5-7 yrs now. And they really have a legit chance. Even with an old kg or old pp. there Hall of famers and still good!
in 7 yrs KG will turn 45. Nobody is good at that age
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on June 28, 2013, 05:44:06 PM
I dont think that the issue is so much the actual draft picks as much as the fact that giving up all of those picks handicaps them from making trades going forward
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on June 29, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
I dont think that the issue is so much the actual draft picks as much as the fact that giving up all of those picks handicaps them from making trades going forward
bit u do realize its every other yr. so technically they have picks to work with in the future.
In addition with the team they have now those picks won't be worth much anyways. (At least thats what there hoping).
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 11:44:53 AM
If you thought with bargani signing the Knicks hit an all time low. They sign brand. Another 7 footer who can't play. They should jut go for the trifecta and sign Jason Collins.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: skyguy918 on July 02, 2013, 12:12:30 PM
If you thought with bargani signing the Knicks hit an all time low. They sign brand. Another 7 footer who can't play. They should jut go for the trifecta and sign Jason Collins.
Elton Brand thanks you the extra 3 inches. Not that it'll help him  ;D
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: damaxer91 on July 02, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
If you thought with bargani signing the Knicks hit an all time low. They sign brand. Another 7 footer who can't play. They should jut go for the trifecta and sign Jason Collins.

They signed Brand? Where did u read that?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 01:05:57 PM
They signed Brand? Where did u read that?
espn sent me a widget feed. Hes ave 7.2 ppg.
Title: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: dd321 on July 02, 2013, 01:08:24 PM
espn sent me a widget feed. Hes ave 7.2 ppg.
and what was Kmart avg? Don't think they signed him for offense , backup big man.
However I prefer they keep Kmart. Proven that he works in the system
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on July 02, 2013, 01:21:05 PM
bit u do realize its every other yr. so technically they have picks to work with in the future.
You can't trade picks in consecutive years.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
You can't trade picks in consecutive years.
hence what i wrote. :)

Second whose your big man scorer. We have a legit center who plays well on the offensive side and now kg who is a hall of famer. You have tice, and .......
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 01:52:41 PM
should we start a betting pool on the dwight sweepstakes?
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 01:58:14 PM
should we start a betting pool on the dwight sweepstakes?
if cle was smart they'd go after him.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 01:59:15 PM
if cle was smart they'd go after him.
maybe theyre smart, but also realistic
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 02:00:55 PM
maybe theyre smart, but also realistic
it would make so much sense. Whether or not setting up for an amazing three with lebron next yr. and Irving is that good he just needs one player who is that good too.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dd321 on July 02, 2013, 02:13:03 PM

hence what i wrote. :)

Second whose your big man scorer. We have a legit center who plays well on the offensive side and now kg who is a hall of famer. You have tice, and .......
your right I forgot about brook "chamberlain" Lopez
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 03:27:12 PM
your right I forgot about brook "chamberlain" Lopez
white shaq actually.
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: Shmelly on July 02, 2013, 04:16:08 PM
I dont think that the issue is so much the actual draft picks as much as the fact that giving up all of those picks handicaps them from making trades going forward
bit u do realize its every other yr. so technically they have picks to work with in the future.
You can't trade picks in consecutive years.
hence what i wrote. :)
You wrote that they have picks to work with, I was merely telling you that they don't have picks to work with as they can no longer trade those picks.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 02, 2013, 06:46:12 PM
espn sent me a widget feed. Hes ave 7.2 ppg.

You should probably inform Mr. Brand and the Knicks because they know nothing about it

Perhaps you read about a rumor?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dd321 on July 02, 2013, 06:51:46 PM

You should probably inform Mr. Brand and the Knicks because they know nothing about it

Perhaps you read about a rumor?
google , u will see they are in talks
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 02, 2013, 07:02:50 PM
google , u will see they are in talks

Talks yes, but they def didn't sign him.

I assume that they had "talks" with Dwight Howard and Chris Paul as well
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dd321 on July 02, 2013, 08:03:11 PM

Talks yes, but they def didn't sign him.

I assume that they had "talks" with Dwight Howard and Chris Paul as well
http://m.espn.go.com/general/story?storyId=9444271&city=newyork&src=desktop
Title: Re: NBA Playoffs 2013
Post by: CountValentine on November 24, 2013, 12:52:39 AM
Hate to say it but IMHO they should trade him. His body just can't take the beating.
It means he is injury prone. Trade him now while he has great value. Let him get hurt somewhere else next year.  :)
You act like this is his first injury.
For everyone that jumped all over me for these comments do you have anything to say now?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on November 24, 2013, 03:05:10 AM
I am a distraught fan right now :(
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 11, 2013, 07:56:17 AM
I know it says playoffs. But kf might be right but the cavs actually played well last night. :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dd321 on December 11, 2013, 01:46:29 PM

I know it says playoffs. But kf might be right but the cavs actually played well last night. :)
remind me?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 11, 2013, 02:55:44 PM
remind me?
the nets will stink :(
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dd321 on December 11, 2013, 02:58:21 PM

the nets will stink :(
:-)
Takes time for new teams to gel. Nets only have this year..
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 11, 2013, 02:59:12 PM
:-)
Takes time for new teams to gel. Nets only have this year..
they looked great last night... big game tom night...

the knicks are a lost cause
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 20, 2014, 02:08:13 AM
Great start this yr.

I think it was reggie on fri i heard with mike saying trading granger was a huge mistake. killed the momentum for indiana
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on August 16, 2014, 11:25:07 PM
It is a big if but if Rose can stay healthy, look out.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 16, 2014, 11:55:44 PM
Rose::Healthy
Cubs::Perennial winners
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on August 17, 2014, 12:26:27 AM

Rose::Healthy
Cubs::Perennial winners

Last time I checked the cubs were not a NBA team. Keep them outta here.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 31, 2014, 12:36:27 AM
Any predictions?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 31, 2014, 03:52:11 AM
LAKERS!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 31, 2014, 05:57:18 AM
LAKERS!
Wow!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Got a clue on October 31, 2014, 07:53:43 AM
LAKERS!

Check out these articles..

http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-lakers-will-play-terrible-basketball-on-purpose-1646396323/+kylenw

http://deadspin.com/come-let-us-have-another-laugh-at-the-disastrous-laker-1652703418
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 31, 2014, 09:23:05 AM
Does anybody know how the proclaimed NBA champs did last night against the pitiful Knicks?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on October 31, 2014, 09:41:00 AM
Does anybody know how the proclaimed NBA champs did last night against the pitiful Knicks?
Knicks surprise Cavs, spoil homecoming of LeBron James" (8 turnovers)
http://espn.go.com/nba/gamecast?gameId=400578310&version=mobile&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%22%7D
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 31, 2014, 09:42:07 AM
Knicks surprise Cavs, spoil homecoming of LeBron James" (8 turnovers)
http://espn.go.com/nba/gamecast?gameId=400578310&version=mobile&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F%22%7D
Is this the same Knicks team the Bulls destroyed the other night?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on October 31, 2014, 10:02:10 AM
Is this the same Knicks team the Bulls destroyed the other night?
says more about the cavs than the knicks
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on October 31, 2014, 10:03:26 AM

Is this the same Knicks team the Bulls destroyed the other night?
yeah, the same Knicks team whose coach said it'll take a while unTill they win.
So it's the Bulls all the way this year?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on October 31, 2014, 10:10:12 AM


says more about the NBA than the knicks
FTFY
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 31, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
So it's the Bulls all the way this year?
Depends if Rose can make it the whole season injury free.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on October 31, 2014, 11:34:42 AM
Depends if Rose can make it the whole season injury free.
It was amazing. During the Bulls vs Knicks game, every time he fell, and one time he rolled a few times, the crowd even in NY was like 'oh no'
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 31, 2014, 11:37:47 AM
It was amazing. During the Bulls vs Knicks game, every time he fell, and one time he rolled a few times, the crowd even in NY was like 'oh no'
A former member once described Rose as a "China Doll".
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Got a clue on November 01, 2014, 04:40:40 PM
Depends if Rose can make it the whole season injury free.

And Rose does it again... Chicago will not win as long as he is there star. He cannot and will not stay healthy
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 01, 2014, 04:53:22 PM
And Rose does it again... Chicago will not win as long as he is there star. He cannot and will not stay healthy
I thought he would make it more than two games.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 23, 2014, 02:28:07 AM
CLE was the preseason favorite to take the NBA championship. Anyone believe that now?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on November 23, 2014, 02:37:32 AM
CLE was the preseason favorite to take the NBA championship. Anyone believe that now?

I'd still take them over any other single team. But it takes a long time for a team to mesh. My preseason guesstimate was 50% first month, playoff team by all star break, top 3 seed, and prob lose conf cham
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on November 23, 2014, 02:44:21 AM
But it takes a long time for a team to mesh.
Didn't need time to mesh at Miami. I will check back at the all-star game.  :)

ETA: Miami was .500 early in the season.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on November 23, 2014, 03:40:21 AM
They definitely have it in them, the question is if they'll do it or not
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2014, 06:57:20 AM
R&B - is there a better backcourt in the league?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
R&B - is there a better backcourt in the league?
I guess they have to have a cool nickname, huh? I think you're forgetting about the Splash Brothers. You know, that backcourt that just happens to be leading their team to the best record in the league so far.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2014, 09:50:15 AM
I guess they have to have a cool nickname, huh? I think you're forgetting about the Splash Brothers. You know, that backcourt that just happens to be leading their team to the best record in the league so far.
No I did not forget about them. That is why it was a question and not a statement.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 11:01:06 AM
No I did not forget about them. That is why it was a question and not a statement.
How about this one. Who has the best backcourt unit? Not starting backcourt, but overall best backcourt, meaning everyone who plays significant minutes on the team at the 1 and 2.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 23, 2014, 11:03:19 AM
How about this one. Who has the best backcourt unit? Not starting backcourt, but overall best backcourt, meaning everyone who plays significant minutes on the team at the 1 and 2.
knicks
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 11:19:21 AM
R&B - is there a better backcourt in the league?
I just saw one ranking (this was in the pre-season, right after Beal and Waiters had that little back and forth on this topic) that had Rose and Butler at #5. And that was before Butler went from 13.1/4.9/2.6 to 22.1/6.2/3.4 (not to mention significant improvements in shooting percentages). Of course that was also before Rose and Butler played just 408 minutes through 27 games (compare that to 682 minutes over 26 games for the Splash Brothers).
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 11:23:46 AM
knicks
Lol, not exactly what I had in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of SA getting a big boost in this conversation vs starters only. I don't know if they become #1, but they might be top 3.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 23, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
Lol, not exactly what I had in mind. I was thinking more along the lines of SA getting a big boost in this conversation vs starters only. I don't know if they become #1, but they might be top 3.
calderon, hardaway, smith, prigioni
bring on any other backcourt
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2014, 12:05:49 PM
How about this one. Who has the best backcourt unit? Not starting backcourt, but overall best backcourt, meaning everyone who plays significant minutes on the team at the 1 and 2.
The Bulls have Brooks and Hinrich. I am not familiar with the other teams back ups.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2014, 12:09:59 PM
calderon, hardaway, smith, prigioni
bring on any other backcourt
One out of four does not make a back court.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on December 23, 2014, 12:20:40 PM
One out of four does not make a back court.
so kal vachomer, 0/4
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on December 23, 2014, 12:24:53 PM
so kal vachomer, 0/4
Except the other 3 from the Knicks can possibly be even a -1 not even a 0
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 12:26:08 PM
calderon, hardaway, smith, prigioni
bring on any other backcourt
I hope this is a joke.
One out of four does not make a back court.
Which is the one :D
The Bulls have Brooks and Hinrich. I am not familiar with the other teams back ups.

For SA, it means adding Ginobli to Parker and Green.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2014, 12:33:49 PM
Which is the one :D
I was thinking Jr.

For SA, it means adding Ginobli to Parker and Green.
Are Ginobli and Parker still playing? I thought I seen them doing Geritol commercials.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
I was thinking Jr.
Are Ginobli and Parker still playing? I thought I seen them doing Geritol commercials.  :)
I had to Google Geritol, and so would any NBA player, but apparently it's a standard part of your lexicon. What's the matter, they play the Finals too late at night, you fell asleep before the games started? ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
I had to Google Geritol, and so would any NBA player, but apparently it's a standard part of your lexicon. What's the matter, they play the Finals too late at night, you fell asleep before the games started? ;)
I joke a lot but can't take nothing away from that team especially after last year.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on December 23, 2014, 02:53:45 PM
Speaking of SA. I never knew till recently they tanked at the end of the season in order to get dunkin
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 03:08:56 PM
Speaking of SA. I never knew till recently they tanked at the end of the season in order to get dunkin
-1
http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-tanking-spurs
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 23, 2014, 05:29:40 PM
http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/articles/the-myth-of-the-tanking-spurs
When the Bulls lost the greatest player of all time did they go from first to almost last?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 23, 2014, 10:42:53 PM
When the Bulls lost the greatest player of all time did they go from first to almost last?
So basically you're saying Jordan wasn't as valuable to the Bulls as Robinson was to the Spurs ;D
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on December 28, 2014, 11:09:20 AM
Next.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 28, 2014, 01:54:52 PM
Next.
Rose looks like he is getting quicker each game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on December 28, 2014, 03:32:03 PM
Rose looks like he is getting quicker each game.
I was referring to the Knicks losing streak.
;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 28, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
I was referring to the Knicks losing streak.
;)
They got the Bulls by one.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on December 29, 2014, 08:11:25 AM
Next
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 29, 2014, 08:18:07 AM
Next
Make that by two.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on December 29, 2014, 09:24:11 PM
That was a quarter to forget. #bullsvspacers. More like 15 min to forget
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 30, 2014, 12:17:47 AM
There is a reason they play 48 instead of 15.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on December 30, 2014, 05:21:41 PM
Once the rumors start look out.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-james-could-leave-cavs-again-if-hand-is-forced/ar-BBhmc91?ocid=mailsignout
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 01, 2015, 02:17:34 AM
Next
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on January 01, 2015, 03:03:00 AM
Next
That is sad.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on January 03, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
Can the news for the Nicks get any worse? Melo might be done for the season?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 04, 2015, 04:51:43 AM
Can the news for the Nicks get any worse? Melo might be done for the season?
If they would be in connection I doubt he would sit out.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on January 04, 2015, 08:18:38 AM
If they would be in connection I doubt he would sit out.
contention*

And its great to s3 the bulls flourishing and the warriors killing it. Makes me happy.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 04, 2015, 08:23:02 AM
contention*

And its great to s3 the bulls flourishing and the warriors killing it. Makes me happy.
Thanks for the correction.
Did anybody expect this from the Knicks? It does come as a complete surprise to me.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 04, 2015, 09:59:09 PM
Next...
Lets just put a fork in this one.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 04, 2015, 10:01:19 PM

Next...
Lets just put a fork in this one.

and for some reason I felt the need to watch the whole game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 04, 2015, 10:02:51 PM
and for some reason I felt the need to watch the whole game.

They played at home... Were they booed off the court?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on January 05, 2015, 12:36:06 AM
Can the news for the Nicks get any worse? Melo might be done for the season?
They still play?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 05, 2015, 06:46:52 AM

They played at home... Were they booed off the court?

Neh. Just the usual.  We Knicks fans have a large and soft heart. We will watch you lose in person or on TV and will even chant "defense" periodically.  They did try a bit in defense to their credit.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 05, 2015, 10:10:09 AM
Neh. Just the usual.  We Knicks fans have a large and soft heart. We will watch you lose in person or on TV and will even chant "defense" periodically.  They did try a bit in defense to their credit.
i want them to shut down melo to get best shot at #1 pick
this will kill fishers career. cant imagine he gets a head coaching job after this until he puts in some years as an assistant
even then...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on January 05, 2015, 10:16:50 AM
A lot of the decision to sit melo will be to get the best shot at the #1 seed since they wont be making the playoffs, even in the east.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 05, 2015, 10:19:06 AM
A lot of the decision to sit melo will be to get the best shot at the #1 seed since they wont be making the playoffs, even in the east.
i love when evan roberts says the following
"finishing worst doesnt help because the worst team rarely gets the first pick"
of course not, evan. finishing worst gives you a 25% chance, which means a 75% chance you dont get the first pick. so ya, odds are against you, but you still have higher odds by finishing the worst
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: AharonInIsrael on January 05, 2015, 12:27:34 PM
After a few days of watching the highlights of the previous night's game with my three year old daughter and warning her that the Knicks lost again, she said "Then let's watch a different one".
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on January 05, 2015, 12:34:11 PM
...she said "Then let's watch a different one".
:)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 07, 2015, 10:24:52 PM
Next.
Glad I didn't get any more Knicks tix this season.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 08, 2015, 03:26:10 PM
I don't think the tix have gone down much in price. You would think they should be close to free, like buy a large Coke get two free tix.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 08, 2015, 03:27:49 PM
I don't think the tix have gone down much in price. You would think they should be close to free, like buy a large Coke get two free tix.

Yea ridiculous,
Im glad I didnt use any more SPG points on the Knicks this year.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 08, 2015, 03:31:46 PM

Yea ridiculous,
Im glad I didnt use any more SPG points on the Knicks this year.

I did last yr and don't regret it but so glad I passed on it this year.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 08, 2015, 03:32:45 PM
I did last yr and don't regret it but so glad I passed on it this year.

I got for opening night! As a Bulls fan I am happy I did.

I got for an upcoming Rangers Vs. Islanders Game, should be fun.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 09, 2015, 07:36:07 AM
Next. This is getting exciting.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on January 09, 2015, 07:38:35 AM
Will they win 10 games?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 09, 2015, 08:27:11 AM
Will they win 10 games?
once they shut down melo, i dont think its possible
i hate the debate "can this college team beat this nba team" bc the answer is always no
however, this knicks team is not an nba team with no melo or amare
so while im not sure any current ncaa team can beat them, i think if you take some of the better teams from the past decade, they could beat the knicks
usually a terrible nba team consists of some college stars gone bad, so you have to assume the nba team would win
this knicks team is not like that
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on January 09, 2015, 02:48:01 PM
I was happy to see Galloway play well and a nice putback dunk.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 09, 2015, 03:18:30 PM
I was happy to see Galloway play well and a nice putback dunk.
Something you see just about once a game from Taj Gibson.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on January 10, 2015, 05:52:38 PM
Next. This is getting exciting.
Went from getting exciting to getting boring.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on January 20, 2015, 10:38:32 AM
took playing a mediocre team without davis and holiday to barely get a win
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on February 18, 2015, 07:32:25 PM
Clock is ticking. Do the Bulls need to make a move?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 19, 2015, 10:22:33 AM
Clock is ticking. Do the Bulls need to make a move?
Best backcourt in the NBA not enough?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: robbie on February 19, 2015, 10:24:27 AM
Best backcourt in the NBA not enough?
curry and Thompson?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 19, 2015, 10:26:53 AM
curry and Thompson?
Top 2*

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on February 19, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
Best backcourt in the NBA not enough?
We will find out.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on February 24, 2015, 10:41:59 PM
Was fun while it lasted:

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
Quote
Bulls say Derrick Rose reported today with right knee pain and MRI confirmed a medial meniscus tear of the right knee. Surgery needed.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on February 24, 2015, 10:52:52 PM
So beautiful!

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 25, 2015, 10:09:41 AM
Was fun while it lasted:

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
this is nuts! guy cant catch a break. its like theres a 'screw d rose button' somwehre
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 25, 2015, 10:54:23 AM
this is nuts! guy cant catch a break. its like theres a 'screw d rose button' somwehre
its in that buffalo wild wings where they can turn up the wind or turn on the sprinklers
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Got a clue on February 25, 2015, 02:40:30 PM
And Rose does it again... Chicago will not win as long as he is there star. He cannot and will not stay healthy

Just saying..
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 25, 2015, 10:00:57 PM
Rose::Healthy
Cubs::Perennial winners
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 27, 2015, 10:01:54 AM
Did anyone hear lebron last night after his win over GS?

Those ny guys are the motors of the team right now. Shump was all over on D

haahaa knick fans!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on February 27, 2015, 10:13:29 AM
Did anyone hear lebron last night after his win over GS?

Those ny guys are the motors of the team right now. Shump was all over on D

haahaa knick fans!
story of our lives ;Jamal Crawford, David Lee, Zach Randolph etc...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on February 27, 2015, 10:27:40 AM
story of our lives ;Jamal Crawford, David Lee, Zach Randolph etc...
its awesome!

But at least you had nate in his prime
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 27, 2015, 10:32:38 AM
its awesome!

But at least you had nate in his prime
david lee was very good with the knicks
and they didnt trade shumpert bc they wanted to
they traded him bc they needed to trade jr
and honestly, no one would argue that jr as a 5th or so option is bad
when hes the second option, its not good for anyone
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on February 27, 2015, 10:45:35 AM
its awesome!

But at least you had nate in his prime
the great nate robinson all hail, we only get players like marbury and franchise and aging former superstars like penny hardaway, mutombo and t-mac
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 27, 2015, 10:46:17 AM
the great nate robinson all hail, we only get players like marbury and franchise and aging former superstars like penny hardaway, mutombo and t-mac
...howard eisley, shandon anderson :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on February 27, 2015, 10:47:48 AM
...howard eisley, shandon anderson :)
oh I forgot those :) but at least we had Jeremy Lin for a few weeks
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on February 27, 2015, 10:59:54 AM
Rose::Healthy
Cubs::Perennial winners
O/U was all-star break so he last longer than most expected.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on February 27, 2015, 11:10:35 AM
O/U was all-star break so he last longer than most expected.
+1 didnt take a genius to predict he would go down eventually but to predict he would stay healthy past the all star break thats impressive  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on February 27, 2015, 12:40:26 PM
david lee was very good with the knicks
and they didnt trade shumpert bc they wanted to
they traded him bc they needed to trade jr
and honestly, no one would argue that jr as a 5th or so option is bad
when hes the second option, its not good for anyone

True, but imagine JR now as the #1, #2, #3.... option for the Knicks. He's be taking 40 shots a game and scoring 40++ without even blushing while down 30

At least we would have some entertainment.....



Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 27, 2015, 01:00:55 PM
True, but imagine JR now as the #1, #2, #3.... option for the Knicks. He's be taking 40 shots a game and scoring 40++ without even blushing while down 30

At least we would have some entertainment.....
and another scoring champ
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 02, 2015, 02:01:43 PM
We will find out.
best injured backcourt in the nba?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on March 02, 2015, 02:07:01 PM
best injured backcourt in the nba?
LOL
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on March 02, 2015, 02:33:06 PM
best injured backcourt in the nba?
not sure, OKC seems like a front runner
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on March 02, 2015, 02:52:36 PM
not sure, OKC seems like a front runner
Durant does not play in the backcourt.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on March 02, 2015, 02:59:26 PM
Check it out, Harden as a Hasid:
http://www.barstoolsports.com/dmv/super-page/james-harden-decided-to-be-amish-for-the-day/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on March 02, 2015, 07:58:27 PM
harden.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 27, 2015, 09:52:25 AM
i used to think kentucky would beat the knicks
then i watched kentucky last night for a few minutes, and ironically, i changed my mind
they are an incredible team, but i think the knicks would beat them. the knicks can counter kentucky's size, they wont let kentucky just run up and down the floor and toy with them.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on March 27, 2015, 09:54:41 AM
i used to think kentucky would beat the knicks
then i watched kentucky last night for a few minutes, and ironically, i changed my mind
they are an incredible team, but i think the knicks would beat them. the knicks can counter kentucky's size, they wont let kentucky just run up and down the floor and toy with them.
Any NBA team would destroy Kentucky.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 27, 2015, 09:55:39 AM
Any NBA team would destroy Kentucky.
well everyone would agree to that
my discussion was concerning the knicks
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on March 27, 2015, 09:57:30 AM
well everyone would agree to that
my discussion was concerning the knicks
Not nice to kick them when they are down.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 27, 2015, 10:00:25 AM
Not nice to kick them when they are down.  ;)
they have been kicking me all these years
and the "can this college team beat this nba team" is usually very stupid
however, this year i cant think someone is foolish for having the discussion
1. kentucky is having one of the best, if not the best, college season ever
2. the current knicks roster is one of the worst, if not the worst, rosters i have ever seen. over a full season i think they win single digits. they got a few wins from when they had some other players (melo included).
so i think there is room to discuss, but as i said, i reversed course, and think the knicks would win.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on March 27, 2015, 10:09:22 AM
Listen, it depends whether it counts towards their record for the draft lottery ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 27, 2015, 10:10:36 AM
Listen, it depends whether it counts towards their record for the draft lottery ;)
-1
if only they paid attention to that and didnt win these occasional games
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on March 27, 2015, 10:29:49 AM
-1
if only they paid attention to that and didnt win these occasional games
You don't want to be too obvious. Bottom line, they're dead last in the league right now. Can't do better (worse?) than that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on March 27, 2015, 10:31:28 AM
You don't want to be too obvious. Bottom line, they're dead last in the league right now. Can't do better (worse?) than that.
true
but speaking in terms of numbers, even with that, there's a 75% chance they dont have first choice
so im not optimistic
throw in that they are the knicks, and theyll probably get the 4th pick
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on March 27, 2015, 10:48:01 AM
true
but speaking in terms of numbers, even with that, there's a 75% chance they dont have first choice
so im not optimistic
throw in that they are the knicks, and theyll probably get the 4th pick
You have to do your hishtadlus, right? That's what they're doing.

And anyway, with the Knicks, it's less about which pick they get than how badly they screw up who to choose with that pick. The only Knick draft choice since 1990 to have even made an all-star team is David Lee.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Menachem613 on March 27, 2015, 11:04:16 AM

Any NBA team would destroy Kentucky.

They should have a game for charity. I'd pay to watch.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on April 12, 2015, 03:54:50 AM
I know its not a chidush, but if Stephen curry doesn't win MVP then something is wrong. He's sooooooo good it's insane!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on April 12, 2015, 11:30:06 AM
I know its not a chidush, but if Stephen curry doesn't win MVP then something is wrong. He's sooooooo good it's insane!
Eh..

Everyone has a different definition of what makes an MVP, and Curry doesn't have a clear cut hold on any of them - except for the best player on the best team. Best overall play/stats is probably Davis, and most value to his team (ie take him away and see how far they drop) is probably Harden. That Lebron guy ain't too bad either, and Westbrook is the one 'insane' most fits.

Bottom line, nobody is ever so dominant anymore that there's no conversation to be had. Curry will probably win it, and that's fine. But don't pretend there are no other contenders.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 12, 2015, 11:35:30 AM
Harden is the MVP. I just told us all that he is. End of discussion.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 24, 2015, 10:17:06 AM
Rose::Healthy
Cubs::Perennial winners
What does are guru say. Will Rose make it through the playoffs?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on April 25, 2015, 10:23:43 PM
2 words: Steph curry...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on April 29, 2015, 01:57:16 AM
Wow! What a crazy game between the spurs and clippers! What a crazy finish!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 29, 2015, 01:59:26 AM
No fork for SAS.  :)
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Post by: davidjw0914 on April 29, 2015, 06:47:40 AM
Who won the clippers game
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on April 29, 2015, 07:09:16 AM
Who won the clippers game
Spurs and they have this great site I just found for questions like yours.  ;)
http://www.nba.com/
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Post by: yitrap on April 29, 2015, 07:10:37 AM

Spurs and they have this great site I just found for questions like yours.  ;)
http://www.nba.com/

If only phones had this ability to just ask simple questions like that, we should totally invent such a thing.
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Post by: moishes on April 29, 2015, 09:02:04 AM
Spurs and they have this great site I just found for questions like yours.  ;)
http://www.nba.com/
He probably has a filter  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 05, 2015, 03:44:13 AM
If you want to be on the list for best ever you just can't keep having bad games in the playoffs.
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Post by: dealfinder85 on May 05, 2015, 02:53:25 PM
If you want to be on the list for best ever you just can't keep having bad games in the playoffs.
not sure i would call that a bad game
unless you were referring to mozgov, in which case i completely agree
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 05, 2015, 03:25:46 PM
not sure i would call that a bad game
19 points, what would you call it?
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Post by: jj1000 on May 05, 2015, 03:28:45 PM
19 points, what would you call it?
+1. Totally agree, missing a layup down by 4 with seconds left is not hall of fame material... He should be sinking 3's.

Not to mention some 6 turn overs.

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Post by: dealfinder85 on May 05, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
+1. Totally agree, missing a layup down by 4 with seconds left is not hall of fame material... He should be sinking 3's.

Not to mention some 6 turn overs.
stopped watching so missed that missed layup
but 19-15-9 and not a dreadful shooting night is tough to call a bad game. yes he had 6 turnovers, but a few turnovers shouldnt make it a bad game
i guess it comes down to his 1/2 from the line. lebron needs to be taking more than 2 free throws
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 05, 2015, 03:52:03 PM
stopped watching so missed that missed layup
but 19-15-9 and not a dreadful shooting night is tough to call a bad game. yes he had 6 turnovers, but a few turnovers shouldnt make it a bad game
i guess it comes down to his 1/2 from the line. lebron needs to be taking more than 2 free throws
He is the star of the team by a long shot. The go to guy in crunch time. The one that needs to step up when others are hurt. The one that needs to take to the hole and slam it in there face. You are right now that I think of it that this was not a bad game it was a terrible game.
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Post by: dealfinder85 on May 05, 2015, 04:13:13 PM
He is the star of the team by a long shot. The go to guy in crunch time. The one that needs to step up when others are hurt. The one that needs to take to the hole and slam it in there face. You are right now that I think of it that this was not a bad game it was a terrible game.
he didnt step up when he needed to
no one can deny that. doesnt make it a terrible game
he just has to realize no one is gonna bail him out and he needs to step up and have the guts to take the important 3s etc.
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 05, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
he didnt step up when he needed to
no one can deny that. doesnt make it a terrible game
he just has to realize no one is gonna bail him out and he needs to step up and have the guts to take the important 3s etc.
My original point was he has these type of playoff games (whatever you want to call them) all to often to be considered the greatest of all-time.
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Post by: dealfinder85 on May 05, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
My original point was he has these type of playoff games (whatever you want to call them) all to often to be considered the greatest of all-time.
fair
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Post by: Ergel on May 05, 2015, 05:29:52 PM
My original point was he has these type of playoff games (whatever you want to call them) all to often to be considered the greatest of all-time.
I didn't know this was up for discussion at this point.
What is up for discussion is whether he makes it onto Mt. Rushmore
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 05, 2015, 05:33:54 PM
What is up for discussion is whether he makes it onto Mt. Rushmore
Is that were they put so called "kings"?
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 09, 2015, 09:56:26 PM
Does it count if you don't call bank shot?
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Post by: HowYaDoin on May 09, 2015, 10:09:07 PM
Does it count if you don't call bank shot?
As he told chris broussard "I called game"
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Post by: SamKey on May 10, 2015, 01:24:24 PM
Does it count if you don't call bank shot?
No way!! Didn't know they had that rule back in your days...
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 10, 2015, 02:34:55 PM
No way!! Didn't know they had that rule back in your days...
You also had to call "swish".
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Post by: SamKey on May 10, 2015, 06:24:10 PM
You also had to call "swish".
and he did...
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on May 10, 2015, 10:21:25 PM
and he did...
...he is as good as a clutch shooter as Rose is. That isn't saying much.  :)
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Post by: SamKey on May 11, 2015, 12:40:01 AM
...he is as good as a clutch shooter as Rose is. That isn't saying much.  :)
as long as it wasn't a no-look lucky-bank....
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 11, 2015, 02:05:19 AM
How ironic: if kobe goes 9/30 in a playoff game and hits the game winner, every1 says he shoots too much. But LeBron goes 9/30, hits a game winner, and no1 says anything...
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Post by: jaywhy on May 19, 2015, 07:02:25 PM
Anyone have NBA leaguepass willing to share?  :)
Please PM.
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Post by: EJB on May 19, 2015, 07:06:38 PM
How ironic: if kobe goes 9/30 in a playoff game and hits the game winner, every1 says he shoots too much. But LeBron goes 9/30, hits a game winner, and no1 says anything...

No one said Lebron had a good shooting game that game. He had a great non-shooting game and an amazing clutch shot, but a poor shooting game. That being said, I think the premise behind your point is incorrect.
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Post by: keemster26 on May 19, 2015, 07:09:54 PM
Anyone have NBA leaguepass willing to share?  :)
Please PM.
Same situation. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Please pm.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 26, 2015, 03:25:13 PM
SFO DO 06/14?

Thursday, June 4
9:00 PM   NBA Finals, Game 1   ABC

Sunday, June 7
8:00 PM   NBA Finals, Game 2   ABC

Tuesday, June 9
9:00 PM   NBA Finals, Game 3   ABC

Thursday, June 11
9:00 PM   NBA Finals, Game 4   ABC

Sunday, June 14
8:00 PM   NBA Finals, Game 5*   ABC

Tuesday, June 16
9:00 PM   NBA Finals, Game 6*   ABC

Friday, June 19
9:00 PM   NBA Finals, Game 7*   ABC
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 26, 2015, 03:29:30 PM
Any flights out late enough Sunday night? Doesn't seem like it...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 26, 2015, 03:32:41 PM
Any flights out late enough Sunday night? Doesn't seem like it...
For money, sure. Several options around 1am.
Dunno about miles.

I'm booked Sunday-Monday nonstop with UA miles. Long live redeposits.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 26, 2015, 03:37:19 PM
Even paid, doesn't seem like there is anything that would get me in Monday morning for work in YYZ
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Post by: yoruel on May 26, 2015, 11:01:44 PM
Congrats to all Clevelanders :D
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Post by: keemster26 on May 27, 2015, 01:40:04 AM
Congrats to all Clevelanders :D
Not here to be a hater, but gimme a break! The eastern conference is such a joke! But yes, congrats Dan.
Title: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 27, 2015, 09:19:31 AM
Cost of tix? Wife won't want me to go to 2 games, and I already plan on going tik  game 4, so I'm prob a no, unless game tik  prices aren't radically diff.
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Post by: EJB on May 27, 2015, 09:28:31 AM

Not here to be a hater, but gimme a break! The eastern conference is such a joke! But yes, congrats Dan.

Must be a clippers fan
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Post by: keemster26 on May 27, 2015, 11:13:39 AM
Must be a clippers fan
Nope. Actually hate the clippers.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 27, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
Even paid, doesn't seem like there is anything that would get me in Monday morning for work in YYZ

Game is 5 PM in SFO

Plenty of time to make 10:35 PM red-eye from SFO

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Post by: EJB on May 27, 2015, 11:52:34 AM
Darn, friends wedding is that day. And need to be in Vegas the next am
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Post by: EJB on May 27, 2015, 12:34:25 PM
Any interest in game 2???
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2015, 12:44:08 PM
Game is 5 PM in SFO

Plenty of time to make 10:35 PM red-eye from SFO


Ah, that is correct.
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Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2015, 12:54:19 PM
@Dan, is this actually happening?
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Post by: Dan on May 27, 2015, 12:57:21 PM
@Dan, is this actually happening?
Waiting to see what tickets cost before committing.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 27, 2015, 01:09:26 PM
@Dan, is this actually happening?
If the Cavs go up 3-1 I guarantee it'll happen.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2015, 01:17:31 PM
If the Cavs go up 3-1 I guarantee it'll happen.
Lol, true that.
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Post by: EJB on May 27, 2015, 01:20:22 PM
Lol, true that.

I'd bet it'll happen if they're down 3-1 as well.
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Post by: SamKey on May 27, 2015, 01:22:14 PM
I'm ready to put down money on there being a game 5
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Post by: keemster26 on May 27, 2015, 01:24:56 PM
If the Cavs go up 3-1 I guarantee it'll happen.
Hate to break it to you, but Cavs aren't going up 3-1...
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Post by: Dan on May 27, 2015, 01:30:05 PM
I'd bet it'll happen if they're down 3-1 as well.
Why would I want to pay to see CLE lose the finals again? Did that 8 years ago, left with 3 minutes left in the game.
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Post by: jj1000 on May 27, 2015, 01:30:08 PM
Hate to break it to you, but Cavs aren't going up 3-1...
Thanks for the prophecy. Next you will tell me Curry will for sure not get injured?

Listen I think the Cavs will be lucky to win more than 1 game, but I wouldn't say anything is for sure. Especially if Irving and Lebron are 100% in a week from now. JR has 1 or 2 amazing games again, Lebron has a couple Amazing games... Cavs could win it all.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2015, 01:30:42 PM
Thanks for the prophecy. Next you will tell me Curry will for sure not get injured?
Esp when we've got our secret weapon, Delly ;)
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Post by: jj1000 on May 27, 2015, 01:33:15 PM
Esp when we've got our secret weapon, Delly ;)
Shhhhhh don't tell anyone, we still want people to think he's not dirty.

Got to say aside from Lebron coming back, the GM has done the most amazing job for this team putting all these guys together.
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Post by: SamKey on May 27, 2015, 01:36:59 PM
Hate to break it to you, but Cavs aren't going up 3-1...
Personally I disagree, the way the Cavs have been playing I like the matchup
Thanks for the prophecy. Next you will tell me Curry will for sure not get injured?

He missed a total of 3 games this season...
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Post by: jj1000 on May 27, 2015, 01:39:02 PM
He missed a total of 3 games this season...
Price of tea in China? He missed half a game 2 days ago, so what? Injuries aren't predicted.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 27, 2015, 01:44:41 PM
Man, I wish I had free redeposits for UA. Great reward biz tickets avail for game 5
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Post by: SamKey on May 27, 2015, 04:48:39 PM
Price of tea in China? He missed half a game 2 days ago, so what? Injuries aren't predicted.
True but some players are more prone to injuries... Anything can happen but some players are safer than others
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Post by: EJB on May 27, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
True but some players are more prone to injuries... Anything can happen but some players are safer than others

True, and a player that sat out in the prior game due to an injury is more prone to getting injured in the future, even if he's done pretty well until that point. Obviously, we aren't betting that Curry will get injured; that is unlikely. But he is more likely to get injured now than a week ago, IMO. And his play might be impacted if he's more cautious.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 27, 2015, 10:57:52 PM
Paging Harden. There's a game to play in OAK...
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Post by: Sport on May 27, 2015, 11:44:22 PM
Who can watch this trash ?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 01:01:46 AM
Cavs are heavy underdogs.  I'd take that +230 bet if I was in LAS now.
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Post by: chucksterace on May 28, 2015, 01:11:47 AM

Cavs are heavy underdogs.  I'd take that +230 bet if I was in LAS now.

Its only a flight away.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 28, 2015, 09:14:46 AM
I think Lou Bob is going to Vegas soon :). I'll be there during the finals. Hmm.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 28, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
I wonder how much Harden had on the Warriors?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 29, 2015, 12:45:42 PM
OAK v CLE:



Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 01, 2015, 01:17:37 PM
Any update?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 01, 2015, 01:26:04 PM
Given the ticket prices, the only way I'd go is if CLE is up 3-1.
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 01, 2015, 03:49:02 PM
Given the ticket prices, the only way I'd go is if CLE is up 3-1.
What are they going for?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 01, 2015, 03:52:30 PM
http://www.stubhub.com/golden-state-warriors-playoff-tickets/golden-state-warriors-oakland-oracle-arena-6-14-2015-9248004/
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 01, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
http://www.stubhub.com/golden-state-warriors-playoff-tickets/golden-state-warriors-oakland-oracle-arena-6-14-2015-9248004/
Ouch! Who do they think they are, the Blackhawks?  :)
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Post by: yoruel on June 04, 2015, 08:35:18 PM
Is there a game tonight?
Oh! I forgot, its finally Thursday.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 04, 2015, 09:09:55 PM
My prediction: Lebron in 7.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 04, 2015, 11:36:58 PM
My heart just dropped when shumpert shot that!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on June 04, 2015, 11:53:25 PM
If irvings done this is gonna be an ugly series
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 04, 2015, 11:55:03 PM
That was a pathetic OT, what happened to "Delly"
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yoruel on June 04, 2015, 11:55:24 PM
Please be nice around here the next few days. :'(
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 12:17:13 AM
Was going to ask who won but used google instead.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 12:46:47 AM
How did the Bum do? I see he had 44 but how did ho do in overtime?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 12:50:11 AM
How did the Bum do? I see he had 44 but how did ho do in overtime?

Not well. Kyrie's the real loss. Don't think he'll be back
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 12:51:07 AM
If irvings done this is gonna be an ugly series

Don't think ugly, but the Cavs wont win the series. The games that JR/Shump show up I think the Cavs have a good shot at winning. Otherwise, Curry and Klay have to both be off for the cavs to have a shot.
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Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 12:51:28 AM
Not well. Kyrie's the real loss. Don't think he'll be back
He get hurt again?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 12:52:41 AM
He get hurt again?

Got hurt in end of OT. From the video, his frustration, as well as reports of his father's frustration just a few minutes ago in the trainer's room, it looks serious.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 12:54:05 AM
Got hurt in end of OT. From the video, his frustration, as well as reports of his father's frustration just a few minutes ago in the trainer's room, it looks serious.
Hate to see that happen even it was Lebron.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 12:54:53 AM
Hate to see that happen even it was Lebron.

Yup. Kyrie and Love. So unfortunate.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 12:57:24 AM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2h6zy1k.png)

CM, is that you on the right?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 01:03:14 AM
CM, is that you on the right?
I am the one asking the question.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 01:04:46 AM
I am the one asking the question.  :)

There was an israeli reporter asking a question. Wasn't named CM, though...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 01:05:11 AM
Yup. Kyrie and Love. So unfortunate.
To be fair to Lebron I don't think MJ would be able to pull this one off with missing those two.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 01:14:35 AM
To be fair to Lebron I don't think MJ would be able to pull this one off with missing those two.

There's no "to be fair to Lebron." He had an amazing game. Yes, he wasn't suberb in OT,  but overall he had one of his best playoff games.
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Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 01:26:08 AM
There's no "to be fair to Lebron." He had an amazing game. Yes, he wasn't suberb in OT,  but overall he had one of his best playoff games.
I hate LeBron more than any other player, but I gotta admit he's goood. Just stop shooting 3 pointers! Your giving me way toooo much joy staring at all those missed 3 pointers!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 01:27:34 AM
There's no "to be fair to Lebron."
If they lose or has a bad game it is going to be that he can't deliver. I don't like the guy but that won't be fair.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on June 05, 2015, 01:30:05 AM
I'm not at all a basketball fan, maybe that's why I don't get it: how can a professional sports player be missing these shots. If you told a baseball player "here's a fastball down the middle" he's gonna crush that ball. Same thing with an open shot for a basketball player, he shouldn't be missing these basic shots.

especially from the free throw line. hello, that's all you've been doing since you were 10 yrs old.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 01:31:52 AM
I'm not at all a basketball fan, maybe that's why I don't get it:
You should stop there.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 02:11:07 AM
You should stop there.  :)
+1
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Buruch on June 05, 2015, 03:25:19 AM
He did plenty during the game, but stars have to rise to the moments - he did nothing the entire OT. Kobe or MJ would never be awol like that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 06:34:40 AM
He did plenty during the game, but stars have to rise to the moments - he did nothing the entire OT. Kobe or MJ would never be awol like that.


Bc that's what happened in your hot tub time macchine...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 07:33:36 AM
Bc that's what happened in your hot tub time macchine...
I am sure you know that has been the knock on Lebron. Sometimes he is MIA.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 05, 2015, 07:34:11 AM

I am sure you know that has been the knock on Lebron. Sometimes he is MIA.

Nice pun
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 09:35:16 AM
Nice pun
;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 05, 2015, 09:50:11 AM
I don't see the Cavs having a better game than last night, and they lost...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
I don't see the Cavs having a better game than last night, and they lost...
So no DO for game 5?  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 05, 2015, 09:54:23 AM
So no DO for game 5?  :)
Lol. Question is it just a teams fans that see all the bad calls by refs? I counted 5 or so clear fouls they replayed on TV in the 4th quarter they didn't call..

In other news Love said he wants to come back.

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 10:08:26 AM
Question is it just a teams fans that see all the bad calls by refs? I counted 5 or so clear fouls they replayed on TV in the 4th quarter they didn't call..
Were all the no calls committed by the other team? If your answer is yes then the answer to your question is also yes.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 05, 2015, 10:57:57 AM
http://mobile.philly.com/sports/?wss=/philly/sports&id=306231851
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20150605_Cavs_rule_in_OT_despite_LeBron_s_44.html

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/05/e57d3f07572668e07b4fb80dbdc352c8.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Buruch on June 05, 2015, 11:19:01 AM
I don't see the Cavs having a better game than last night, and they lost...
They nearly won on the road - they're not in such bad shape-yet.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 11:28:10 AM
They nearly won on the road - they're not in such bad shape-yet.
What do you mean by "yet"? Irving isn't healthy.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 05, 2015, 11:31:01 AM
Lol. Question is it just a teams fans that see all the bad calls by refs? I counted 5 or so clear fouls they replayed on TV in the 4th quarter they didn't call..

In other news Love said he wants to come back.
The travel call against the Cavs was ridiculous - cost them the game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 11:32:58 AM
The travel call against the Cavs was ridiculous - cost them the game.
That was clearly a travel.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on June 05, 2015, 11:36:27 AM
That was clearly a travel.

+1
The fact that they dont always call it, doet not make it a non travel.

Those type of pivot steps they started cracking down on from three point range and out on the floor. No reason why it should not be called down low as well..

Although they should be consistent on those calls.

http://allball.blogs.nba.com/2015/04/15/shaqtin-a-fool-volume-4-episode-23/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 05, 2015, 11:39:10 AM
They never call that a travel. So it's ridiculous to call it at the end of a tight game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 05, 2015, 12:11:16 PM
If anyone thinks a pivot and step is a travel they need help. Or an eye doc. It did cost the game no question about that. They can't change what a travel is for one play.

One of the worst things that the NBA refs do and this is for all games is they only call fouls when a shot is missed, but if they make the shot they don't call it. Lebron didn't get a single and 1, but many layups he made he was fouled, and when he missed he got the call, it's just bad reffing.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yoshyosh on June 05, 2015, 12:17:56 PM
Lol. Question is it just a teams fans that see all the bad calls by refs? I counted 5 or so clear fouls they replayed on TV in the 4th quarter they didn't call..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NBA_betting_scandal repeat?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 05, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
If anyone thinks a pivot and step is a travel they need help. Or an eye doc. It did cost the game no question about that. They can't change what a travel is for one play.

One of the worst things that the NBA refs do and this is for all games is they only call fouls when a shot is missed, but if they make the shot they don't call it. Lebron didn't get a single and 1, but many layups he made he was fouled, and when he missed he got the call, it's just bad reffing.
Come on, you really complaining that Lebron doesnt get calls? I only watched the 2nd half and on but not only did he get calls that were tick tack at best he gets away with the forearm shiver all game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 05, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
Nba is so unwatchable i can't even watch anything more than last 5 minutes of a finals game and even that i wouldn't watch of LeBron wasn't playing
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 02:35:03 PM
Come on, you really complaining that Lebron doesnt get calls? I only watched the 2nd half and on but not only did he get calls that were tick tack at best he gets away with the forearm shiver all game.
Seriously! He's using his offarm all day to push off the defender! Btw Blake Griffin does the same thing when he goes for a dunk but never gets called for it!
Nba is so unwatchable i can't even watch anything more than last 5 minutes of a finals game and even that i wouldn't watch of LeBron wasn't playing
??? Last night's game was crazy! How could you only watch the last couple min? are you sure you're an NBA fan?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 05, 2015, 02:37:02 PM


Last night's game was crazy! How could you only watch the last couple min? are you sure you're an NBA fan?
Im not an nba fan wasn't that pretty clear from my post
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 05, 2015, 05:58:25 PM
Pretty hard not to feel for Cleveland at this point
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 05:59:50 PM
Pretty hard not to feel for Cleveland at this point
+1
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 05, 2015, 06:05:51 PM
Pretty hard not to feel for Cleveland at this point
Like the way we felt the past 50 years?

I think Cleveland likes being the city that never wins, it gives them something to be proud of and talk/complain about. Not sure they'd know what to do if the Cavs ever do win.

If they have Love, Irving, and Verajo for the next 5 years they ain't winning anything. Have to get rid of the injury prone and get new talent. Take a lesson from Chicago.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Like the way we felt the past 50 years?

I think Cleveland likes being the city that never wins, it gives them something to be proud of and talk/complain about. Not sure they'd know what to do if the Cavs ever do win.

If they have Love, Irving, and Verajo for the next 5 years they ain't winning anything. Have to get rid of the injury prone and get new talent. Take a lesson from Chicago.
Maybe it's b/c of the famous curse...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 06:48:18 PM
Maybe it's b/c of the famous curse...
I thought that was the Cubs. CLE has one to?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 06:54:15 PM
I thought that was the Cubs. CLE has one to?
Apparently R' Mordechai Gifter gave the city of Cleveland a curse many years ago.  Apparently a couple of boys in his Yeshiva missed Seder b/c they went to the Indians game. So he said  Cleveland will nvr win a championship either for the next 80 yrs or forever. Not sure which one...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 07:05:08 PM
Apparently R' Mordechai Gifter gave the city of Cleveland a curse many years ago.  Apparently a couple of boys in his Yeshiva missed Seder b/c they went to the Indians game. So he said  Cleveland will nvr win a championship either for the next 80 yrs or forever. Not sure which one...
OK, I thought it was something serious like a goat hex.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 05, 2015, 07:05:59 PM
OK, I thought it was something serious like a goat hex.
Lol. I think this is also pretty serious.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 05, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
Curse of rocky colavito
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 05, 2015, 07:13:09 PM
Curse of rocky colavito
That one was broke many times already.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 07, 2015, 04:39:27 PM



If they have Love, Irving, and Verajo for the next 5 years they ain't winning anything. Have to get rid of the injury prone and get new talent. Take a lesson from Chicago.

They'll win at least one in the next 3 years. James too good not to
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 07, 2015, 04:41:15 PM
They'll win at least one in the next 3 years. James too good not to
They will if they let the injury players go.

Lebron had a bad knee a couple weeks ago, this series if he tries too hard could be very bad for him...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
CLE 8 point underdogs for todays game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 07, 2015, 05:26:59 PM
They'll win at least one in the next 3 years. James too good not to
If LeBron doesn't leave...
Title: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 05:28:19 PM
What were they for game 1?
 Doesn't seem much worse. I saw odds for the series were like 76/24% last I checked, and I'm surprised cle was that high. That being said, I have 4k profit on the line depending on if there's a game 6, so I hope that happens :)
Title: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 05:30:40 PM
I'm not at all a basketball fan, maybe that's why I don't get it: how can a professional sports player be missing these shots. If you told a baseball player "here's a fastball down the middle" he's gonna crush that ball. Same thing with an open shot for a basketball player, he shouldn't be missing these basic shots.

especially from the free throw line. hello, that's all you've been doing since you were 10 yrs old.

Not true. Do hitters hit 90% of pitches at the hr derby?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 05:32:34 PM
What were they for game 1?
CLE +6

Opened series line was.
GS -240
CLE +200
Title: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 05:35:15 PM
CLE +6

Wow, Vegas must not have liked gs's performance. I'd think kyrie is worth much more than 2 points.

Do you know the odds on the cavs taking it all next year? I'd consider betting on that when I go to Vegas next week ...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 05:37:28 PM
Anyone here coming to game 4? Pregame dinner?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 05:37:53 PM
Do you know the odds on the cavs taking it all next year? I'd consider betting on that when I go to Vegas next week ...
Not sure if those odds will be out before the series is over.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
:(. With my luck the series will be over by then though. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on June 07, 2015, 11:08:33 PM
The guy who gets every call all season whining about a no-call foul after he traveled. Whaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 07, 2015, 11:16:01 PM
The guy who gets every call all season whining about a no-call foul after he traveled. Whaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
I was shocked it took Breen and Co so long to point out the travel.

Then when Smith fouled Curry on the pump fake a play or 2 later, JvG goes on a rant about those calls. Meanwhile, James picked up 2 FT's at the end of regulation on a much more egregious version of that type of play (only contact by Iguadala was hand on the shoulder, and James actually elbowed Iguadala in the stomach on the play too) - not a word from JvG.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2015, 11:16:56 PM
Anyone here coming to game 4? Pregame dinner?
Better off going to game 3 and getting Chef Daves.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 07, 2015, 11:17:09 PM
How ridiculous would this be if the winning points came from Delly getting fouled on a putback attempt.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:17:32 PM

Better off going to game 3 and getting Chef Daves.

Don't have a choice :(. Some thing called work.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2015, 11:20:17 PM
Cavs first finals win in history!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:21:55 PM
Nice
Ending!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:22:15 PM
Delly mvp
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 11:22:52 PM
These are the two best teams? Curry is the MVP? Man has the NBA gone downhill.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2015, 11:24:48 PM
These are the two best teams? Curry is the MVP? Man has the NBA gone downhill.
The Cavs are missing 2 of their big 3 due to injury.  Would be a Cavs sweep with all of em :P
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:27:54 PM
And curry is one of the best shooters in nba history.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 07, 2015, 11:28:49 PM
These are the two best teams? Curry is the MVP? Man has the NBA gone downhill.
+1 I thought it was just me.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 11:31:31 PM
And curry is one of the best shooters in nba history.
You have one of the best shooters in NBA history and they don't double team him?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:32:57 PM

You have one of the best shooters in NBA history and they don't double team him?

Bc they have a number of decent shooters and delly did a great job
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 11:34:42 PM
Bc they have a number of decent shooters and delly did a great job
Is that the same reason LB doesn't get doubled teamed let alone triple teamed.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2015, 11:34:56 PM
You have one of the best shooters in NBA history and they don't double team him?
(http://i.gyazo.com/ba8db859d2dd8c0e2e35e5e60d706dcb.png)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:38:44 PM

Is that the same reason LB doesn't get doubled teamed let alone triple teamed.


He'd have 20 assists if they did
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 11:40:10 PM

He'd have 20 assists if they did
...and how many points?
Title: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:40:34 PM
...and how many points?

100

In all seriousness,  it's difficult to double team on an ISO offense.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 07, 2015, 11:41:53 PM
You have one of the best shooters in NBA history and they don't double team him?
Dellavedova put on a epic performance. Game 2 MVP!!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 07, 2015, 11:42:31 PM
Does Curry usually bounce back well after bad games?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 07, 2015, 11:44:41 PM
In all seriousness,  it's difficult to double team on an ISO offense.
I hope your joking.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 07, 2015, 11:47:24 PM
These are the two best teams? Curry is the MVP? Man has the NBA gone downhill.
-1. The level of play has certainly been suspect. But some years you get the best basketball in the Finals, and other years, the level of play peaks well before that. The Curry part of it is a little bizarre, I'll give you that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:47:51 PM

I hope your joking.

Try to double lebron up by the 3pt line in ISO and see what happens
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 07, 2015, 11:51:13 PM
Dellavedova put on a epic performance. Game 2 MVP!!
Meh. I don't mind him not scoring, but he was 3-10 with 1 assist and 6 turnovers. And you can't give him too much credit on defense considering Curry was missing just about everything, even wide open shots.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 07, 2015, 11:51:44 PM
Try to double lebron up by the 3pt line in ISO and see what happens
I guess you don't know how doubling actually works.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:54:10 PM

Meh. I don't mind him not scoring, but he was 3-10 with 1 assist and 6 turnovers. And you can't give him too much credit on defense considering Curry was missing just about everything, even wide open shots.

Did you watch the game?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 07, 2015, 11:54:52 PM
Did you watch the game?
+100
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:55:15 PM

I guess you don't know how doubling actually works.

I do. Did you watch the teams that tried doubling up lbj this season when he was playing point?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 07, 2015, 11:55:41 PM
Meh. I don't mind him not scoring, but he was 3-10 with 1 assist and 6 turnovers. And you can't give him too much credit on defense considering Curry was missing just about everything, even wide open shots.
Not everything is numbers. Consider the intangibles.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 07, 2015, 11:58:25 PM
Regardless, I think the Warriors expect lbj to score over 30 against their defense of him. Their goal is to limit the others' production. They've done an ok job at that but they've done pitifully at offense themselves.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 08, 2015, 12:00:18 AM
Did you watch the game?
I did in fact watch the game. Are you sure you didn't watch it with your eyes closed? Then I could totally understand why you would think that, given how the announcing team was gushing over him. Doesn't change the facts.
I do. Did you watch the teams that tried doubling up lbj this season when he was playing point?
Oh, you mean this season, before the playoffs, when the Cavs weren't playing ISO ball every trip down the court?
Not everything is numbers. Consider the intangibles.
So I watched his defense - wasn't impressed, as I mentioned - and even a diehard Cavs fan will admit he didn't have much of an offensive impact. So what are the intangibles you want me to consider? A loose ball here or there (6 turnovers - enough said)? Or maybe you mean really, really intangible - like mojo or swagger. I'll leave those for you to consider.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 12:01:13 AM
Regardless, I think the Warriors expect lbj to score over 30 against their defense of him. Their goal is to limit the others' production. They've done an ok job at that but they've done pitifully at offense themselves.
CLE has no one else. The only one who can beat them at this point is LB. Of all people Steve Kerr should understand this.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 12:04:02 AM
CLE has no one else. The only one who can beat them at this point is LB. Of all people Steve Kerr should understand this.
Who are you leaving open?
Smith? Delly? Shump?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 12:04:05 AM
https://instagram.com/p/3pyj2XshOf/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 12:07:57 AM
Who are you leaving open?
Smith? Delly? Shump?
Who ever else is on the court. You take the ball out of the best player's hand. Basketball 101.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 08, 2015, 12:14:04 AM

Who ever else is on the court. You take the ball out of the best player's hand. Basketball 101.

At the hs level, maybe. This is the nba. Kerr can live w lbj scoring 30 of no one else scores over 10-15. Lebrons one of the best passers at his position in the game. The more attention he's given, the less attention the others are given. And he will find them open. That leaves jr and shumpert open at the wing, Mozgov open by the hoop, etc. the cavs didn't win tonight Bc of their offense - the Warriors did a good job of handling them at that end. It was their defense that earned them the w.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 08:16:28 AM
At the hs level, maybe. This is the nba. Kerr can live w lbj scoring 30 of no one else scores over 10-15. Lebrons one of the best passers at his position in the game. The more attention he's given, the less attention the others are given. And he will find them open. That leaves jr and shumpert open at the wing, Mozgov open by the hoop, etc. the cavs didn't win tonight Bc of their offense - the Warriors did a good job of handling them at that end. It was their defense that earned them the w.
It does not matter if it is grammar school you don't let the best player just do what he wants. As far as Kerr living with LB scoring 30 how is that working out? He is averaging over 40 and the series is tied 1-1 to team that is decimated with injuries and should not be on the same court as GS.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 08, 2015, 08:21:58 AM
I dont really follow basketball but all i have been hearing is the Cavs have no chance against GS yet they are a shot away from being up 2-0
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 08:23:36 AM
I dont really follow basketball but all i have been hearing is the Cavs have no chance against GS yet they are a shot away from being up 2-0
You are exactly right but the big question is why?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 08, 2015, 08:26:43 AM
You are exactly right but the big question is why?
I only watched the last 5 min of regulation but it reminded me a lot of that series against Detroit years ago.  Ugly but LeBron literally willed and dragged his team to a win..
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 08:28:02 AM
I only watched the last 5 min of regulation but it reminded me a lot of that series against Detroit years ago.  Ugly but LeBron literally willed and dragged his team to a win..
...it sure looks that way.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 08, 2015, 09:05:06 AM
...it sure looks that way.
Well duh... What Lebron needs to be great is a perimeter shooter. That's what Love and Kyrie did. Otherwise they guard him too well under the hoop. James Jones and Smith made some huge shots too take that pressure off Lebron. If the other cavs player can continue to make 3's and open the paint for lebron, they have a small chance of winning this. But still sometimes a team will have an off night, but one player has never won a title by himself afaik.

And whoever said Delly for mvp that game is nuts, Curry had a horrible shooting night and he lost the ball every time he went under the hoop, not to mention missing almost every 3.

As a cleveland fan I just hope Curry stays this bad and Thompson gets into foul trouble more.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 08, 2015, 09:12:33 AM


As a cleveland fan I just hope Curry stays this bad and Thompson gets into foul trouble more.
Check out the +/- from last night, re Mozgov & Thompson.

I can't say I'm convinced Blatt belongs on this stage. Lebron basically barks orders to him at this point.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 09:15:34 AM
As a cleveland fan I just hope Curry stays this bad and Thompson gets into foul trouble more.
So you are one of the those fans that would rather just have the title and not beat the best?
But still sometimes a team will have an off night, but one player has never won a title by himself afaik.
Then put a fork in CLE because that is all they have at this point.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 08, 2015, 09:22:49 AM
Check out the +/- from last night, re Mozgov & Thompson.

I can't say I'm convinced Blatt belongs on this stage. Lebron basically barks orders to him at this point.
My entire family whatsapp was going crazy asking where Mazgov was, he was having a career night until Blatt took him out. And the morons at ABC didn't even mention it.

So you are one of the those fans that would rather just have the title and not beat the best? Then put a fork in CLE because that is all they have at this point.
Not even a question. Indeed that is basically all they have but like I said if a couple guys are shooting 3's they can do it, although I agree they still have a very slim chance.

If the cavs were up 2-0 I bet national media would still favorite GS.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
Not even a question.
Why?

If the cavs were up 2-0 I bet national media would still favorite GS.
Probably yes but I don't think Vegas would. Next game is very interesting. CLE is +1 or -1 depending on who you book with.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 08, 2015, 09:34:10 AM
Why?
1. Because in this case if Curry stays off it will be credited to Delly paying amazing D, curry scored a big goose egg while being guarded by delly last night.

2. It's been enough years of stupid mistakes and plays that I want cleveland to have a championship however it comes. I don't care right now about building Lebron's legacy or having an amazing story, with our number 2 and 3 guys gone, I'll take the win however it comes.

As a cleveland fan you learn nothing matters at the end of the day, not the story, the calls by refs, or who played a better game, all that matters is who wins it all.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 09:48:00 AM
Check out the +/- from last night, re Mozgov & Thompson.

I can't say I'm convinced Blatt belongs on this stage. Lebron basically barks orders to him at this point.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 09:48:48 AM
As a cleveland fan you learn nothing matters at the end of the day, not the story, the calls by refs, or who played a better game, all that matters is who wins it all.
True but sad. Maybe move to Chicago and root for the Cubs.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 08, 2015, 10:03:10 AM
1. Because in this case if Curry stays off it will be credited to Delly paying amazing D, curry scored a big goose egg while being guarded by delly last night.

2. It's been enough years of stupid mistakes and plays that I want cleveland to have a championship however it comes. I don't care right now about building Lebron's legacy or having an amazing story, with our number 2 and 3 guys gone, I'll take the win however it comes.

As a cleveland fan you learn nothing matters at the end of the day, not the story, the calls by refs, or who played a better game, all that matters is who wins it all.
As a JETS fan I can relate.
a side question, is Delly a better defender than Shumpert?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 10:08:06 AM
As a JETS fan I can relate.
Nobody can relate to CLE sports misery. Nobody.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 10:09:07 AM
Ironic how the long break turned that everyone said would favor the Cavs (Kyrie, etc) wound up favoring the Warriors (Thompson)...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 08, 2015, 10:09:33 AM
As a cleveland fan you learn nothing matters at the end of the day, not the story, the calls by refs, or who played a better game, all that matters is who wins it all.
It's like your version of Valar Morghulis.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 10:10:01 AM
Nobody can relate to CLE sports misery. Nobody.
Cry me a river.  :P
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 08, 2015, 10:10:10 AM
Nobody can relate to CLE sports misery. Nobody.
True I cant relate to the complete misery. But as a Jets fan I can relate to the disfunction and utter frustration.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 10:11:16 AM
Cry me a river.  :P
Cried all my sports tears out on October 26, 1997. Never again.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 08, 2015, 12:03:17 PM
Cried all my sports tears out on October 26, 1997. Never again.
That was a tough one, I will give you that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 08, 2015, 12:11:16 PM
Cried all my sports tears out on October 26, 1997. Never again.
tony fernandez
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2015, 12:25:36 PM
tony fernandez
He wasn't even supposed to play.

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 08, 2015, 12:43:06 PM
He wasn't even supposed to play.


how good is bob costas
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 08, 2015, 12:49:09 PM
The relevant play is at the 3:30:40 mark.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 08, 2015, 11:51:21 PM
Nobody can relate to CLE sports misery. Nobody.
A jets Mets Knicks rangers fan can get pretty close
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2015, 12:06:55 AM
A jets Mets Knicks rangers fan can get pretty close
-1,000
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 09, 2015, 12:15:48 AM
-1,000

YANKEES!!!

We're used to winning and we've been sucking (though this year hasn't been too bad)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2015, 12:22:04 AM
Oy.
I will say it's finally nice for an NY team to become the farm system for a CLE team.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 01:38:56 AM
I don't think any fan has anything on a CUB fan.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2015, 01:45:47 AM
It's not about any individual team.

It's the collective failure of all 3 pro teams, time and time again, blown opportunity after blown opportunity, for the entire lives of most of that city's inhabitants.

And that exists nowhere but CLE so quit your whining and let us commiserate and create new names for each failure in peace.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 01:48:32 AM
The collective failures of the Cubs might surpass that of all three CLE pro teams.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on June 09, 2015, 06:16:13 AM
The collective failures of the Cubs might surpass that of all three CLE pro teams.  :)
Aww how sad.
:'(:'(:'(
Why dont you wipe those tears on your MJ and blackhawks championship jerseys?

Noone comes close
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 06:45:46 AM
Aww how sad.
:'(:'(:'(
Why dont you wipe those tears on your MJ and blackhawks championship jerseys?

Noone comes close
...but that is what makes it so difficult for Chicago Cub fans because of those championships. CLE doesn't know how painful that is. Also you forgot the 85 Bears probably the most memorable for me.

To top that all off I couldn't even enjoy the Sox world series win because I am a Cubs fan. Now that is some real pain. CLE should be thankful they have a bunch of losers. It is like winning the lottery it would only destroy their lives.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 09:43:18 AM
CLE +1 1/2 underdog for tonight.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 09, 2015, 10:24:03 AM
CLE +1 1/2 underdog for tonight.
The cavs lost 2 games at home since Lebron came back from his injury this year. And more importantly "Tonight is the 4th time this season the Cavs play a home playoff game on the same day the Indians are home. The Cavs won the previous 3 and are 7-1 in such games since 2009, while the Indians are 5-3"
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 09, 2015, 10:28:00 AM
...but that is what makes it so difficult for Chicago Cub fans because of those championships. CLE doesn't know how painful that is. Also you forgot the 85 Bears probably the most memorable for me.

To top that all off I couldn't even enjoy the Sox world series win because I am a Cubs fan. Now that is some real pain. CLE should be thankful they have a bunch of losers. It is like winning the lottery it would only destroy their lives.

The cavs lost 2 games at home since Lebron came back from his injury this year. And more importantly "Tonight is the 4th time this season the Cavs play a home playoff game on the same day the Indians are home. The Cavs won the previous 3 and are 7-1 in such games since 2009, while the Indians are 5-3"

Thanks folks,
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/67IL3/i-ll-be-here-all-night/image.gif?w=400&c=1)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 10:37:54 AM
The cavs lost 2 games at home since Lebron came back from his injury this year. And more importantly "Tonight is the 4th time this season the Cavs play a home playoff game on the same day the Indians are home. The Cavs won the previous 3 and are 7-1 in such games since 2009, while the Indians are 5-3"
I am sure the odds makers took all that into consideration when they made the line.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dr Moose on June 09, 2015, 04:33:07 PM
http://deadspin.com/deadcast-does-the-bible-foretell-a-cavaliers-victory-1710104145
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: kracked dude on June 09, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Cleveland hospital dresses newborns in ĎAll Iní Cavaliers onesies | For The Win - http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/cleveland-hospital-dresses-newborns-all-in-cavaliers-onesies
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 09, 2015, 05:43:13 PM
If Curry gets back his shot, the Cavs are toast, unless JR Smith gets hot, there's only so much 1 player can do.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 05:48:21 PM
If Curry gets back his shot, the Cavs are toast, unless JR Smith gets hot, there's only so much 1 player can do.
Can GS win with Curry having another bad game?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 09, 2015, 05:50:23 PM
Can GS win with Curry having another bad game?
Yes. They went to overtime in Game 2.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 09, 2015, 05:54:44 PM
@CM: Do you think if you replace LBJ with MJ in game 2 the cavs could have won? I think not.
I'm not saying LBJ is greater. I am saying that LBJ has the power to carry a D-league team on his back - I don't think MJ could have.
MJ was a better clutch closer, and a better scorer, and was tougher.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
@CM: Do you think if you replace LBJ with MJ in game 2 the cavs could have won? I think not.
If they single team MJ like they do LB then MJ gets 50-60 points. So I would say yes they win game 2.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 09, 2015, 07:36:38 PM
I think people are forgetting how good Jordan was (has a lot to do with the way he ended his career)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 09, 2015, 07:41:40 PM
If they single team MJ like they do LB then MJ gets 50-60 points. So I would say yes they win game 2.

Based on... NBA 2K15?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 09, 2015, 07:52:25 PM
As much as I dislike LB I will be rooting for the Cavs but betting on GS (nothing big).  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 09, 2015, 11:00:06 PM
Feels like everyone is dumbfounded by the Warriors scoring struggles, but to me, it's pretty simple. They're designed for the current era of rules (and the defensive limitations that would normally come with that), while the Finals are being called like it's 1990. I'm not saying the games themselves are being called inconsistently for one team or another, but it definitely benefits the Cavs more than the Warriors.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 09, 2015, 11:35:01 PM
DELLY MVP! Who here is going to game 4?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 09, 2015, 11:36:35 PM
DELLY MVP! Who here is going to game 4?
+10000000

#BreakoutGame!!!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 09, 2015, 11:51:05 PM
Congrats!
It wasn't easy..
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 09, 2015, 11:52:13 PM
How ya doin?
My man LBJ a beast!
Most pts over 1st 3 games in Finals in history.
Greatest beast of 2015? LBJ>American Pharoah
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 09, 2015, 11:54:11 PM
All I can say is that this Finals is bad for the game. Anyone who thinks they're watching good basketball this year must have missed the last 4 Finals.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 09, 2015, 11:58:38 PM
All I can say is that this Finals is bad for the game. Anyone who thinks they're watching good basketball this year must have missed the last 4 Finals.
+1000000000
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 10, 2015, 12:10:49 AM
All I can say is that this Finals is bad for the game. Anyone who thinks they're watching good basketball this year must have missed the last 4 Finals.
These finals aren't about the style of play but rather the story. Stories have a much larger appeal to the general populous than style of play.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 10, 2015, 12:15:46 AM
These finals aren't about the style of play but rather the story. Stories have a much larger appeal to the general populous than style of play.
Like I said, anyone who thinks they're watching good basketball... You want storylines, read a book (I don't mean you specifically, fans of the teams playing are expected to be into it).
Title: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 12:29:45 AM
Game 5 DO in Oracle Arena this Sunday at 5pm?

Bl"n I'll be there if the Cavs win on Thursday.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 10, 2015, 12:35:36 AM
Like I said, anyone who thinks they're watching good basketball... You want storylines, read a book (I don't mean you specifically, fans of the teams playing are expected to be into it).
The Cavs whole game plan is to muk up the games. So what's your point?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 10, 2015, 12:40:10 AM
The Cavs whole game plan is to muk up the games. So what's your point?
That I hate the fact that this is the crap we're being subjected to in the Finals. I thought that was pretty clear.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 10, 2015, 12:45:40 AM
That I hate the fact that this is the crap we're being subjected to in the Finals. I thought that was pretty clear.
I think it's brilliant! An underdog beating a much better team by turning the games ugly.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 12:48:34 AM
These finals aren't about the style of play but rather the story. Stories have a much larger appeal to the general populous than style of play.
The only one that cares about this story is CLE fans and LB.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 12:49:25 AM
The only one that cares about this story is CLE fans and LB.
LOL
http://www.nba.com/2015/news/06/08/ratings-for-game-2-nba-finals/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 12:51:05 AM
How ya doin?
My man LBJ a beast!
Most pts over 1st 3 games in Finals in history.
Greatest beast of 2015? LBJ>American Pharoah
All they have to do is double team him bringing the ball up and he will have to give it up.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 12:53:08 AM
LOL
http://www.nba.com/2015/news/06/08/ratings-for-game-2-nba-finals/
So this shows everyone is watching because of the stories and not the game?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 12:53:52 AM
The only one that cares about this story is CLE fans and LB.

and NBA fans.

GS's 67 win season
CLE's playing through huge setbacks
Rookie coaches squaring head to head

In terms of story, this finals is pretty good. I think viewership is doing extremely well, btw, so people do care about something.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 12:57:53 AM
In terms of story, this finals is pretty good. I think viewership is doing extremely well, btw, so people do care about something.
You might want to ask yourself why the viewership for NBA games is getting younger and younger. I am sure it is because the quality of the game.  ::)

Anyway I can't wait to see what the line on the series is now.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 12:59:43 AM
So this shows everyone is watching because of the stories and not the game?
You can't have it both ways.  If the play is so unwatchable then people must be watching for the storylines.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: yakrot on June 10, 2015, 01:01:12 AM
Game 5 DO in Oracle Arena this Sunday at 5pm?

Bl"n I'll be there if the Cavs win on Thursday.
How much are tickets going for?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:03:31 AM
You can't have it both ways.  If the play is so unwatchable then people must be watching for the storylines.
What both ways? Where did I say the play was unwatchable? I watched a ton of hockey playoff games this season that were just plain sloppy. I watch because I am a fan.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:04:26 AM
Not you, but...
That I hate the fact that this is the crap we're being subjected to in the Finals. I thought that was pretty clear.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:06:07 AM
Not you, but...
...but you quoted me.  ;)

These games are entertaining. If nothing else at least the CLE fans now have hope.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:08:41 AM
Hopefully less once GS loses on Thursday :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: keemster26 on June 10, 2015, 01:10:39 AM
Hopefully less once GS loses on Thursday :)
Oy Vey! This is too painful to watch!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 10, 2015, 01:11:59 AM
Not you, but...
First of all, people will always watch Lebron, certainly at this point in his career. Second of all, maybe they're tuning in to hoping to catch the kind of hailstorm of 3's that got GS as close as they did.

I assume you're playing devils advocate here - you don't actually believe this is what good basketball looks like, right?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:13:20 AM
I assume you're playing devils advocate here - you don't actually believe this is what good basketball looks like, right?
I don't think any CLE fan can be objective at this point.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 10, 2015, 01:15:37 AM
I don't think any CLE fan can be objective at this point.
Every CLE fan should be saying something to the effect of "Damn right it's ugly! And we're lovin it!"
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:16:24 AM
I assume you're playing devils advocate here - you don't actually believe this is what good basketball looks like, right?
I don't think it's good basketball at all, I think it's the storyline.  LeBron coming home. Wanting it more than ever and doing whatever it takes despite losing every other starter from the beginning of the season. Neither team having a championship since 75. Etc.

CM said only CLE fans think it's the storyline.  Seems odd that we're setting records if that were true.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: jj1000 on June 10, 2015, 01:19:18 AM
I have a flight on hold. They better win game 4 before 11:59pm Thursday ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 01:22:16 AM
ESP considering the last 4 championships also featured lbj.
Title: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 01:23:13 AM
And is the line set? I'd guess even now to slight fav for cavs.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:23:27 AM
CM said only CLE fans think it's the storyline.  Seems odd that we're setting records if that were true.
First two games went to OT and the third was very exciting. If that doesn't get you ratings nothing will.

What records are they setting? Are the ratings higher than MJ's last championships many moons ago?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2015, 01:24:02 AM
I have a flight on hold. They better win game 4 before 11:59pm Thursday ;)

Lol.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:24:12 AM
And is the line set? I'd guess even now to slight fav for cavs.
Will know in the morning. My guess is even.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 01:27:14 AM

Will know in the morning. My guess is even.

Happy that it looks like I'll be profiting from game 6 :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:29:00 AM
Happy that it looks like I'll be profiting from game 6 :)
Did you bet or have seats you are going to make a killing on?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 01:33:22 AM
Did you bet or have seats you are going to make a killing on?

latter :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:42:13 AM
Seats will be 800+ for nose bleed section.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:43:41 AM
Seats will be 800+ for nose bleed section.
That's what they are now. We'll see what happens when GC loses on Thursday :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 01:47:30 AM
That's what they are now. We'll see what happens when GC loses on Thursday :)

Vegas opened at -2.5 GS for G4.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 01:48:16 AM
That's what they are now. We'll see what happens when GC loses on Thursday :)

At what price point will you bite?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:48:36 AM
Vegas opened at -2.5 GS for G4.
Still no respect for CLE.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:50:00 AM
At what price point will you bite?
If we win Thursday I plan on going.  My game 3 and 4 proceeds will more than cover the ticket.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:50:11 AM
That's what they are now. We'll see what happens when GC loses on Thursday :)
They should skyrocket with all the CLE fans willing to pay anything.  :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 01:51:15 AM
They should skyrocket with all the CLE fans willing to pay anything.  :)
A gamble I'm willing to take. 
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 01:53:26 AM
A gamble I'm willing to take.
I am sure the possibility of them losing the next game making game 5 a non issue has nothing to do with it.   ;)

Either way I hope you get your chance!
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 02:00:48 AM
Make sure to post pics!!! And not just of the food. Selfie w/ Delly!!!
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 02:03:17 AM
SFO has kosher food? Who knew?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 02:04:08 AM
SFO has kosher food? Who knew?

POM/Milts FTW
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 02:04:23 AM
SFO has kosher food? Who knew?
I thought they had a little bit of everything out there.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: jj1000 on June 10, 2015, 08:02:27 AM
I thought they had a little bit of everything out there.
Lol, they do. Tickets may be $800 but if there is a game 6 in cle tickets will be $2k for nose bleeds if cle is up 3-2. But I think tickets will fall, 20,000 GS fans won't want to got to the game, and I don't think that many cle fans can afford flights last minute. But it'd be cool to be there with thousands of cle fans it may be the most fans for an opposing team ever lol.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: farmbochur on June 10, 2015, 09:22:07 AM
Let's not get too excited. Last October, the Royals had a bay area sports team in the same position.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 10:19:33 AM
I have a flight on hold. They better win game 4 before 11:59pm Thursday ;)
Nothing available for me. Was going to book just in case I could make it. Want to see two Jewish guys go nuts!  :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 10:37:22 AM
Let's not get too excited. Last October, the Royals had a bay area sports team in the same position.
I still don't like our odds, but I'll still plan :)

Nothing available for me. Was going to book just in case I could make it. Want to see two Jewish guys go nuts!  :)
That's because I'm hogging several awards via ORD.

Have 3 class Global First via ORD booked and have coach via LAX booked.  Decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 10:40:59 AM
That's because I'm hogging several awards via ORD.

Have 3 class Global First via ORD booked and have coach via LAX booked.  Decisions, decisions.
Which one do I get?  :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 10:40:59 AM
There's space from ORD if you can take off Monday.
Space may revert for Sunday night to ORD if I cancel that flight.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: damaxer91 on June 10, 2015, 12:16:55 PM
Lol, they do. Tickets may be $800 but if there is a game 6 in cle tickets will be $2k for nose bleeds if cle is up 3-2. But I think tickets will fall, 20,000 GS fans won't want to got to the game, and I don't think that many cle fans can afford flights last minute. But it'd be cool to be there with thousands of cle fans it may be the most fans for an opposing team ever lol.

Highly doubt tickets will start at 2k for game 6. More like $700-$800

Most people give up after trying the Cavs flash site for a half hour
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 12:19:19 PM
Highly doubt tickets will start at 2k for game 6. More like $700-$800

Most people give up after trying the Cavs flash site for a half hour
If we're up 3-2 I can't see anything going for less than $1K.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 12:25:11 PM
If we're up 3-2 I can't see anything going for less than $1K.

Let's bet on this :) I think 1k is a good guess, but I think lower is more likely than higher.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: damaxer91 on June 10, 2015, 12:26:49 PM
If we're up 3-2 I can't see anything going for less than $1K.

Perhaps 1K

But 2k is NYC like prices. You can buy a condo for that in CLE
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 03:37:04 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nba-finals-lebron-and-delly-and-the-improbable-1433951204
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 04:00:53 PM
Have 3 flights booked. Who wants to help me narrow it down?

Flight option 1: 12.5K in coach, 5:13 travel time
UA 821 CLE-SFO 712am-925am, exit row middle seat, 5:13 duration.

Flight option 2: 35K in global first, 7:29 travel time
UA 4513 CLE-ORD 6am-623am, exit row aisle seat, coach, 1:23 duration
1:42 connection
UA 727 ORD-SFO 8:05am-10:29am, global first aisle, 4:23 duration

Flight option 3: 12.5K in coach, 8:38 travel time
UA 1956 CLE-LAX 7:43am-9:36am, exit row aisle seat, 4:53 duration
2:14 connection
UA 6270 LAX-SFO 11:50am-1:21pm,  exit row aisle seat, 1:31 duration


Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dr Moose on June 10, 2015, 04:01:39 PM
Have 3 flights booked. Who wants to help me narrow it down?

Flight option 1: 12.5K in coach, 5:13 travel time
UA 821 CLE-SFO 712am-925am, exit row middle seat, 5:13 duration.

Flight option 2: 35K in global first, 7:29 travel time
UA 4513 CLE-ORD 6am-623am, exit row aisle seat, coach, 1:23 duration
1:42 connection
UA 727 ORD-SFO 8:05am-10:29am, global first aisle, 4:23 duration


Flight option 3: 12.5K in coach, 8:38 travel time
UA 1956 CLE-LAX 7:43am-9:36am, exit row aisle seat, 4:53 duration
2:14 connection
UA 6270 LAX-SFO 11:50am-1:21pm,  exit row aisle seat, 1:31 duration
If you're going to see your team win a championship you don't fly cattle.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 04:09:43 PM
Have 3 flights booked. Who wants to help me narrow it down?

Flight option 1: 12.5K in coach, 5:13 travel time
UA 821 CLE-SFO 712am-925am, exit row middle seat, 5:13 duration.

Flight option 2: 35K in global first, 7:29 travel time
UA 4513 CLE-ORD 6am-623am, exit row aisle seat, coach, 1:23 duration
1:42 connection
UA 727 ORD-SFO 8:05am-10:29am, global first aisle, 4:23 duration

Flight option 3: 12.5K in coach, 8:38 travel time
UA 1956 CLE-LAX 7:43am-9:36am, exit row aisle seat, 4:53 duration
2:14 connection
UA 6270 LAX-SFO 11:50am-1:21pm,  exit row aisle seat, 1:31 duration

2 and get shallots for the ride :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
At 623am? That would be something.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: mb1 on June 10, 2015, 04:15:10 PM
Have 3 flights booked. Who wants to help me narrow it down?

Flight option 1: 12.5K in coach, 5:13 travel time
UA 821 CLE-SFO 712am-925am, exit row middle seat, 5:13 duration.

Flight option 2: 35K in global first, 7:29 travel time
UA 4513 CLE-ORD 6am-623am, exit row aisle seat, coach, 1:23 duration
1:42 connection
UA 727 ORD-SFO 8:05am-10:29am, global first aisle, 4:23 duration

Flight option 3: 12.5K in coach, 8:38 travel time
UA 1956 CLE-LAX 7:43am-9:36am, exit row aisle seat, 4:53 duration
2:14 connection
UA 6270 LAX-SFO 11:50am-1:21pm,  exit row aisle seat, 1:31 duration
What does #3 have over #1?
The aisle seat?
Just take #1 and have more time in SFO, and hope for an upgrade. :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 04:16:22 PM
What does #3 have over #1?
The aisle seat?
Just take #1 and have more time in SFO, and hope for an upgrade. :)
Correct.
F is full.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 10, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
At 623am? That would be something.

Tell them you're coming :) Or have someone pick it up the night before and deliver
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: yoruel on June 10, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
If you're going to see your team win a championship you don't fly cattle.
I hear, but i would love to be a fly on the wall near Dan talking to the guy sitting next to him in Coach 8)
He should feel for the people who are not able to travel 1st class
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dr Moose on June 10, 2015, 04:21:19 PM
I hear, but i would love to be a fly on the wall near Dan talking to the guy sitting next to him in Coach
you can always just be that guy ... speak to AJK about it.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: keemster26 on June 10, 2015, 04:34:08 PM
If you're going to see your team win a championship you don't fly cattle.
+1
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 04:36:35 PM
Don't think it's worth adding 65% extra travel time and spending 22.5K miles to sit 4 hour in F.  Though it's somewhat tempting anyway.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: mb1 on June 10, 2015, 04:41:55 PM
Don't think it's worth adding 65% extra travel time and spending 22.5K miles to sit 4 hour in F.  Though it's somewhat tempting anyway.
I agree but for some reason I think the longer you think about it the bigger the chance you will cave to temptation. ;)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: username on June 10, 2015, 04:42:22 PM
For me, flying direct beats a stopover almost any day.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: mb1 on June 10, 2015, 04:46:27 PM
For me, flying direct beats a stopover almost any day.
Do you realize you are talking to the person who just made a whole adventure centered around taking a flight with 5 stops? :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 04:49:30 PM
For me, flying direct beats a stopover almost any day.
Agreed. If it weren't for the middle seat this wouldn't be a discussion.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 04:50:32 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nba-finals-lebron-and-delly-and-the-improbable-1433951204
How will it end?  :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 10, 2015, 04:55:58 PM
Agreed. If it weren't for the middle seat this wouldn't be a discussion.
Just ask someone to switch.  :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
I'm sure for a Grant there would be takers.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: chucksterace on June 10, 2015, 04:57:20 PM
Can we rename this thread - "Dan's trip to SFO?"
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: alpicone on June 10, 2015, 05:18:17 PM
Have 3 flights booked. Who wants to help me narrow it down?

Flight option 1: 12.5K in coach, 5:13 travel time
UA 821 CLE-SFO 712am-925am, exit row middle seat, 5:13 duration.

Flight option 2: 35K in global first, 7:29 travel time
UA 4513 CLE-ORD 6am-623am, exit row aisle seat, coach, 1:23 duration
1:42 connection
UA 727 ORD-SFO 8:05am-10:29am, global first aisle, 4:23 duration

Flight option 3: 12.5K in coach, 8:38 travel time
UA 1956 CLE-LAX 7:43am-9:36am, exit row aisle seat, 4:53 duration
2:14 connection
UA 6270 LAX-SFO 11:50am-1:21pm,  exit row aisle seat, 1:31 duration

Option 1. Why wake up 1hr earlier, travel 2hrs longer, and use more points (not that it matters to you  ;))
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Option 1. Why wake up 1hr earlier, travel 2hrs longer, and use more points (not that it matters to you  ;))
Agreed. If it weren't for the middle seat this wouldn't be a discussion.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 11, 2015, 12:48:10 AM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nba-finals-lebron-and-delly-and-the-improbable-1433951204
Wow. A must read for everyone residing in the state of Ohio.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 11, 2015, 02:33:05 AM
How will it end?  :)
Yup. This whole narrative gets forgotten if the warriors continue playing like they did in the forth quarter and run Cleveland out of the building.
Delly has a chance to become a legend, never have to pay for another drink in Cleveland. Or sink back into obscurity
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 07:09:52 AM
Delly has a chance to become a legend, never have to pay for another drink in Cleveland. Or sink back into obscurity
I think we seen from the end of last game Delly has nothing to do with the way Curry scores.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 11, 2015, 09:52:32 AM
I think we seen from the end of last game Delly has nothing to do with the way Curry scores.
I don't think that's accurate (just like someone can go through spells on offense, can't the same be said for defense?).
Anyways, in terms of the legend of Delly, whether or not that statement is true, it's irrelevant
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 11, 2015, 10:01:30 AM
I think we seen from the end of last game Delly has nothing to do with the way Curry scores.
You can see that from all 3 games actually. Steph has been missing shots he always makes, including wide open looks. Delly's defensive strength is he's a pest off the ball. When guarding ball he's below average, slow, and weak, and has no chance against Steph. Just been a perfect storm for him so far. I think he gets exposed tonight, but obviously hope and pray he doesn't.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 10:03:14 AM
I don't think that's accurate (just like someone can go through spells on offense, can't the same be said for defense?).
Anyways, in terms of the legend of Delly, whether or not that statement is true, it's irrelevant
Didn't know it was the same for defense.  :)

Delly legend will only happen if he doesn't continue to get lit up like a Christmas tree and CLE wins.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 10:24:23 AM
Can CLE be setting themselves up for the greatest letdown in sports history?

So CLE wins and they are a bigger underdog (money line is GS -150). What does Vegas know that we don't?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2015, 10:29:54 AM
Can CLE be setting themselves up for the greatest letdown in sports history?
Bigger than the other names failures we have? The catch, the trade, the shot, the move, the quit, the decision, the drive, the fumble, game 7/the error, red right 88...
This would be just another to tack on.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 10:31:44 AM
Has any NBA team in history ever lost the NBA finals after going up 3-1?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 11, 2015, 10:33:00 AM
Has any NBA team in history ever lost the NBA finals after going up 3-1?
no
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 11, 2015, 10:35:28 AM
Didn't know it was the same for defense.  :)

Delly legend will only happen if he doesn't continue to get lit up like a Christmas tree and CLE wins.
You're joking right? Blatt decided in his infinite wisdom to take delly off of Curry in the beginning of the 4th.

Between that and taking Mozgov out in the second game he makes me very worried. Add it to his list of near losses due to his calls these playoffs.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 11, 2015, 10:50:17 AM
You're joking right? Blatt decided in his infinite wisdom to take delly off of Curry in the beginning of the 4th.

Between that and taking Mozgov out in the second game he makes me very worried. Add it to his list of near losses due to his calls these playoffs.
It may be connected to Delly going to the hospital after the game. Maybe Delly told Blatt that he's not 100% and can't guard Curry anymore?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 11, 2015, 10:54:11 AM
It may be connected to Delly going to the hospital after the game. Maybe Delly told Blatt that he's not 100% and can't guard Curry anymore?
Don't think so, he'd sit him if that's the case. He put him on Thompson or someone like that and guess what his man didn't make any shots in the beginning of the 4th.

Lebron also wants to point out they were up by 20 when he went out, when he came back they were up by only 9.

Vegas must've liked the 4th quarter for GS though.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 10:59:39 AM
Lebron also wants to point out they were up by 20 when he went out, when he came back they were up by only 9.
Did he mention that he is only a +2 for the series?  :)

I wonder what Delly's +/- is. Maybe ask LB.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
You're joking right? Blatt decided in his infinite wisdom to take delly off of Curry in the beginning of the 4th.
Maybe I was watching the wrong game but I thought it was Delly on Curry for a couple of those late 3's.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 11, 2015, 11:05:44 AM
Maybe I was watching the wrong game but I thought it was Delly on Curry for a couple of those late 3's.
No one said Curry won't score, but when he got his rhythm back for the game it was not Delly guarding him.

I don't know much about defense in basketball but from what I read Delly drives players crazy and gets under there skin in his style of defense, he sort to say makes sure they never get into a rhythm, but once Curry is on fire I can't blame anyone for what happens next.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 11, 2015, 11:14:09 AM


I think he gets exposed tonight, but obviously hope and pray he doesn't.
-1. Let's pray that tonight is the night that Steph curry finally catches wildfire!

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 11, 2015, 11:19:05 AM
-1. Let's pray that tonight is the night that Steph curry finally catches wildfire!


Banned ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 11, 2015, 11:24:21 AM
Banned ;)
Lol. Didn't mean to hit a nerve there.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 11, 2015, 11:27:00 AM
-1. Let's pray that tonight is the night that Steph curry finally catches wildfire!


Because you like a boring story?

It's fun reading your old posts btw LOL

I know its not a chidush, but if Stephen curry doesn't win MVP then something is wrong. He's sooooooo good it's insane!
Hate to break it to you, but Cavs aren't going up 3-1...
Not here to be a hater, but gimme a break! The eastern conference is such a joke! But yes, congrats Dan. <img src="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tapatalk-emoji/emoji4.png" />

We shall see what happens tonight.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 11, 2015, 11:48:00 AM
Because you like a boring story?

It's fun reading your old posts btw LOL

We shall see what happens tonight.
I guess I've been giving the Warriors too much עין הרע.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 05:26:27 PM
LETS GO CAVS!  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yoruel on June 11, 2015, 05:37:54 PM
Any 1 going to the game tonight?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 11, 2015, 05:46:07 PM
Bigger than the other names failures we have? The catch, the trade, the shot, the move, the quit, the decision, the drive, the fumble, game 7/the error, red right 88...
This would be just another to tack on.
So fatalistic...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 11, 2015, 10:03:20 PM
Where does a bleeding head compare to a flu?

Same June 11th date...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on June 11, 2015, 10:04:20 PM
Where does a bleeding head compare to a flu?

Same June 11th date...

Jordan won the game...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 11, 2015, 10:23:08 PM
If I were Blatt I'd take out James for the rest of the game. Make believe that the head injury caused him to take him out. And let him rest tonight. Very small chance the Cavs gonna win, and James needs a rest.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 11, 2015, 10:34:06 PM
If I were Blatt I'd take out James for the rest of the game. Make believe that the head injury caused him to take him out. And let him rest tonight. Very small chance the Cavs gonna win, and James needs a rest.

makes no sense. he will have 3 days to rest anyways...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 11, 2015, 10:37:20 PM
thats a lot of bananas!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 10:46:18 PM
Where does a bleeding head compare to a flu?

Same June 11th date...
You would think he got shot the way he was acting. With him it is all about "ME". Any comparison to this guy and the greatest player ever is a complete joke.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 11, 2015, 10:49:48 PM
You would think he got shot the way he was acting. With him it is all about "ME". Any comparison to this guy and the greatest player ever is a complete joke.
Haters,haters...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 11, 2015, 10:51:50 PM
makes no sense. he will have 3 days to rest anyways...
You're right. i didn't realize there was such a big break.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 11, 2015, 10:55:55 PM
Haters,haters...
Has nothing to do with hate. Double team this guy early and you can put a fork in him.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 11, 2015, 11:11:35 PM
You would think he got shot the way he was acting. With him it is all about "ME". Any comparison to this guy and the greatest player ever is a complete joke.
Are you nuts? Did you see his head? He has multiple lacerations from crashing full force into a camera. Can you imagine how his head is feeling after that?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 11, 2015, 11:39:28 PM
Are you nuts? Did you see his head? He has multiple lacerations from crashing full force into a camera. Can you imagine how his head is feeling after that?
+1 whenever I'm bleeding out of my head I don't play basketball so well Lebron is probably the same.

Shame cle have up though.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on June 11, 2015, 11:57:48 PM

Shame cle have up though.

I'm rooting for Cleveland but just like Cle won the past two games by outplaying GS, GS did the same tonight. Don't think it's fair to say they lost because they gave up.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Got a clue on June 12, 2015, 12:02:03 AM
JR certainly was not giving up  :P
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 12:05:02 AM
JR singlehandedly beat the cavs.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 12, 2015, 12:08:02 AM

JR singlehandedly beat the cavs.
don't think any team, even one with the king, can overcome having JR On their team.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:17:10 AM
Are you nuts? Did you see his head? He has multiple lacerations from crashing full force into a camera. Can you imagine how his head is feeling after that?
Give me a break. He had a scratch and cut on his head. And yes I can imagine how it feels. Can you imagine how ones head will feel running into a goal post in soccer? That doesn't move.

This guy plays when he wants to. At the end of the third he just held the ball and took a three from way behind the line because he was to tired to drive to the basket. Maybe he needed another kiss from mommy. What a joke.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 12:25:24 AM
Give me a break. He had a scratch and cut on his head. And yes I can imagine how it feels. Can you imagine how ones head will feel running into a goal post in soccer? That doesn't move.

This guy plays when he wants to. At the end of the third he just held the ball and took a three from way behind the line because he was to tired to drive to the basket. Maybe he needed another kiss from mommy. What a joke.
ridiculous. you're a pure hater. All the MJ fans are frightened of LeBron. That's why they knock him so much.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 12:28:25 AM
don't think any team, even one with the king, can overcome having JR On their team.
Just noticed his +/- numbers for the night...wow.
Blatt should be ashamed for giving him that much floor time.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 12:29:24 AM
And now time to cancel the 20 various reservations I made for this trip...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:30:24 AM
ridiculous. you're a pure hater. All the MJ fans are frightened of LeBron. That's why they knock him so much.
Great response. How about disputing the facts? He didn't even try when he had the last shot at the end on the third.

He gave everyone in CLE the finger when he left and now this guy is your hero? I know you all are desperate for a championship but at what price?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 12:30:49 AM
Just noticed his +/- numbers for the night...wow.
Blatt should be ashamed for giving him that much floor time.
JR Smith: NY's gift to Cleveland. No returns accepted.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:31:35 AM
Just noticed his +/- numbers for the night...wow.
Blatt should be ashamed for giving him that much floor time.
Have you check LB's +/- for series. For the price they are getting paid JR is a steal.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 12, 2015, 12:32:48 AM
ridiculous. you're a pure hater. All the MJ fans are frightened of LeBron. That's why they knock him so much.
AFRAID? I hate to break it to you,  but MJ fans are not frightened of LeBron in the least bit.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 12:33:00 AM
Great response. How about disputing the facts? He didn't even try when he had the last shot at the end on the third.

He gave everyone in CLE the finger when he left and now this guy is your hero? I know you all are desperate for a championship but at what price?
I ain't from Cleveland.
I've noticed the bigger the fan of MJ the bigger people knock LeBron. Because they're scared. Scared that he may go down as the best.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 12:34:05 AM
AFRAID? I hate to break it to you,  but MJ fans are not frightened of LeBron in the least bit.
So why knock him a whole day? Just ignore him. MJ fans are obsessed with Lebron, scrutinizing every play of his.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 12:34:34 AM
I'm rooting for Cleveland but just like Cle won the past two games by outplaying GS, GS did the same tonight. Don't think it's fair to say they lost because they gave up.
I made that comment with 5 minutes left and yes they gave up at that point.

Give me a break. He had a scratch and cut on his head. And yes I can imagine how it feels. Can you imagine how ones head will feel running into a goal post in soccer? That doesn't move.

This guy plays when he wants to. At the end of the third he just held the ball and took a three from way behind the line because he was to tired to drive to the basket. Maybe he needed another kiss from mommy. What a joke.
Uh huh, Jordan would suck his thumb and snuggle Bugs Bunny if he got an injury to the head like that. Lebron got thrown off his game, give him 2 days rest and let's see the intensity of the next game to decide how he reacts.

I got to admit double teaming Lebron is the best move Kerr made this series.

Side note I said I don't forgive Lebron until he brings a ring to Cleveland.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 12, 2015, 12:34:42 AM

I ain't from Cleveland.
I've noticed the bigger the fan of MJ the bigger people knock LeBron. Because they're scared. Scared that he may go down as the best.

Hahahaha. Alol.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 12:35:56 AM
AFRAID? I hate to break it to you,  but MJ fans are not frightened of LeBron in the least bit.
Hahahaha. Alol.
Every spots caster out there said if Lebron wins this series it'll be the greatest feat of a single player in Finals history.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:37:48 AM
I've noticed the bigger the fan of MJ the bigger people knock LeBron. Because they're scared. Scared that he may go down as the best.
I notice you are not disputing the facts? Did you watch the game? What is his +/- for the series? I dislike the guy and it has nothing to do with the greatest player ever.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 12:39:10 AM
Have you check LB's +/- for series. For the price they are getting paid JR is a steal.  :)
JR:
-8 in 34
-13 in 38
0 in 32
-27 in 28.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:39:38 AM
Every spots caster out there said if Lebron wins this series it'll be the greatest feat of a single player in Finals history.
If he gets credit for the win does he also get credit when they lose? I guess Delly's play is now meaningless?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:40:16 AM
JR:
-8 in 34
-13 in 38
0 in 32
-27 in 28.
Was is everyone afraid to answer a simple question?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 12, 2015, 12:40:53 AM


I dislike the guy and it has nothing to do with the greatest player ever.

+10000
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 12:43:37 AM
If he gets credit for the win does he also get credit when they lose? I guess Delly's play is now meaningless?
1. He only has what to win this series as his 2 all stars are injured, like it or not that's how it'll go down. Just winning 2 games will look good on his resume. Not MJ good, but good. If he wins 4 games it surpasses any previous finals performance.

2. Delly is only irrelevant when they lose the series. As was said before. Curry still had a poor shooting performance when guarded by Delly though. 
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 12:48:05 AM

+10000
You probably hate him because of his gambling problems or because he raped a girl, oh wait maybe that was 2 other NBA "greats"

Is it all the darn charity he gives or his stable family life that you dislike him for?

If you were from Cleveland I could understand why someone would hate him...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:51:29 AM
Since no one wants to face the facts here they are.
Game 1 -3
Game 2  0
Game 3 +7
Game 4 -15
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 12:55:51 AM
You probably hate him because of his gambling problems or because he raped a girl, oh wait maybe that was 2 other NBA "greats"

Is it all the darn charity he gives or his stable family life that you dislike him for?

If you were from Cleveland I could understand why someone would hate him...
If you have a problem with what sports figures do off the court then you shouldn't watch any sports.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 12, 2015, 01:02:16 AM

I dislike the guy and it has nothing to do with the greatest player ever.
I dislike the guy too, and it has nothing to do with him being the greatest player.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 12, 2015, 01:04:36 AM
You probably hate him because of his gambling problems or because he raped a girl, oh wait maybe that was 2 other NBA "greats"

Is it all the darn charity he gives or his stable family life that you dislike him for?

If you were from Cleveland I could understand why someone would hate him...
I'm actually a huge kobe fan. Yes, I know he's terrible now, but I have mad respect for him. The reason why I can't stand LeBron is b/c of what he  did. Going from team to team in the EAST,attempting to win a championship. Kobe stayed in LA even those years where the Lakers were terrible. Yes they lost in the finals even w/ Malone and Peyton, but again Malone was injured, and the only game they won, kobe hit an insane shot to go to overtime. So if LeBron wants to prove something, go to the WEST and prove that you're worthy of going to the finals. Don't just play a bunch of preschool teams and walk into the finals. That's all I have to say.
Btw - kobe also donates a ton of money to charity.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 12, 2015, 01:05:33 AM
Sorry but the biggest issue tonight was Lebron

He didnt have his legs from the outset (before the fall) and he needs to be at 120% for the cavs to win
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 01:06:13 AM
If you have a problem with what sports figures do off the court then you shouldn't watch any sports.
Or you can watch Lebron. But I hear the Chicago Penal team is pretty good if you like those type of players.

I wish we had players that were also role models in the real world. It's very sad to you sports has sunk so low you don't even want to admit there can be a great player and a great person, to me that makes him someone I want to root for on and off the court.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 01:08:20 AM
I'm actually a huge kobe fan. Yes, I know he's terrible now, but I have mad respect for him. The reason why I can't stand LeBron is b/c of what he  did. Going from team to team in the EAST,attempting to win a championship. Kobe stayed in LA even those years where the Lakers were terrible. Yes they lost in the finals even w/ Malone and Peyton, but again Malone was injured, and the only game they won, kobe hit an insane shot to go to overtime. So if LeBron wants to prove something, go to the WEST and prove that you're worthy of going to the finals. Don't just play a bunch of preschool teams and walk into the finals. That's all I have to say.
If the west is so great why does the east ever win? Why did the cavs win 2 games with their 2nd and 3rd player injured?

Maybe you are just biased and like guys that rape girls. Good role model to root for.

Just saying you guys want to troll 2 can play this game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 12, 2015, 01:13:25 AM


If the west is so great why does the east ever win? Why did the cavs win 2 games with their 2nd and 3rd player injured?

Maybe you are just biased and like guys that rape girls. Good role model to root for.

Just saying you guys want to troll 2 can play this game.

Not trying to troll at all. Just trying to have a friendly discussion. If you want to talk about rapists we can bring Iverson in as well. Yes, the east can be good at times, but give me a break, it's usually extremely weak compared to the east. If GSW actually played their level of ball, even w/ Irving, GSW would've dominated.  The problem is that GSW didn't show up until tonight.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:13:37 AM
I wish we had players that were also role models in the real world. It's very sad to you sports has sunk so low you don't even want to admit there can be a great player and a great person, to me that makes him someone I want to root for on and off the court.
WOW Delly, hold your horses there.  :)

Of course someone can be a great player and role model. More important is there are bad players that are great role models. The problem with LB is he is a better role model off the court than on the court. Most watch sports for the on the court action not off court.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:18:07 AM
Maybe you are just biased and like guys that rape girls. Good role model to root for.

Just saying you guys want to troll 2 can play this game.
Going to regret this but who raped who?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 12, 2015, 01:21:10 AM
JR Smith: NY's gift to Cleveland. No returns accepted.

He's a package deal, and CLE knew what they were getting into. He can be lights out, and he can also be just out.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 12, 2015, 01:23:32 AM

Not trying to troll at all. Just trying to have a friendly discussion. If you want to talk about rapists we can bring Iverson in as well. Yes, the east can be good at times, but give me a break, it's usually extremely weak compared to the east. If GSW actually played their level of ball, even w/ Irving, GSW would've dominated.  The problem is that GSW didn't show up until tonight.

I wouldn't say they showed up tonight either. They played decent, but the Cavs played atrociously. Partly bc of GSW defense, but they also were just off.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 01:30:23 AM
Since no one wants to face the facts here they are.
Game 1 -3
Game 2  0
Game 3 +7
Game 4 -15
The facts are what whoever watched the first 3 games saw. Don't give me numbers. Lebron willed 2 wins and an overtime. He was playing with UDFAs and other teams castoffs. It was phenomenal, and I don't know another player who could have done it. Tonight he didn't show up.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 12, 2015, 01:32:32 AM


It was phenomenal, and I don't know another player who could have done it.
Jordan.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 01:33:51 AM
Jordan.
We will never know. Had a top 20 all-time (imho) player at his side.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:34:51 AM
The facts are what whoever watched the first 3 games saw. Don't give me numbers. Lebron willed 2 wins and an overtime. He was playing with UDFAs and other teams castoffs. It was phenomenal, and I don't know another player who could have done it. Tonight he didn't show up.
I guess you never seen Jordan play Detroit in the playoffs.

Everything is LB. I guess all this hype about Delly is pure BS. I guess it wasn't Delly diving all over the floor to seal the win it was LB. I guess I need better glasses or someone needs to take off the rose colored glasses.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:36:20 AM
We will never know. Had a top 20 all-time (imho) player at his side.
Pippen was a cry baby. If not for Jordan he would be an average player.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:38:47 AM
Tonight he didn't show up.
No he did show up. It was the LB that wasn't going to give 100% that showed up.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 01:40:29 AM
Pippen was a cry baby. If not for Jordan he would be an average player.
When Jordan left the Bulls
~ Pippen ranked eighth in the league in scoring (22.0), 23rd in rebounding (8.7), 19th in assists (5.6), and second in steals (2.93).
~ Pippen finished third in NBA MVP voting behind Houstonís Hakeem Olajuwon and San Antonioís David Robinson.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 01:42:37 AM
Well that was fun...
(http://i.gyazo.com/52166490243791fcf2e8da07f4355944.png)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:44:53 AM
When Jordan left the Bulls
~ Pippen ranked eighth in the league in scoring (22.0), 23rd in rebounding (8.7), 19th in assists (5.6), and second in steals (2.93).
~ Pippen finished third in NBA MVP voting behind Houstonís Hakeem Olajuwon and San Antonioís David Robinson.
If not for Jordan he would be an average player.
Thank you for proving my point. You forgot about the part of him refusing to go back in a playoff game because the play was not for him. What about his childish behavior throwing the chair?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 01:47:12 AM
You called him average. That's ridiculous!
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:47:16 AM
And now time to cancel the 20 various reservations I made for this trip...
...now that is one for the ethical thread.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:48:33 AM
You called him average. That's ridiculous!
No that is not what I said. You seem to have a hard time with facts.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 01:49:29 AM
...now that is one for the ethical thread.  :)
Was for several family members as well. Each with various contingencies depending on the outcome of the game.

I wish UA would give PNRs on that page, would make reconciliation a lot easier on me. At least they backdate the redeposit to the day of ticketing.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:51:47 AM
Was for several family members as well. Each with various contingencies depending on the outcome of the game.
Ok I take that back.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Matovu on June 12, 2015, 01:56:08 AM
Well that was fun...
(http://i.gyazo.com/52166490243791fcf2e8da07f4355944.png)
Cool is not the word.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 01:56:54 AM
Can we add a poll?

Is it time for the fork?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 12, 2015, 01:58:01 AM
Can we add a poll?

Is it time for the fork?
Poll
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 01:58:10 AM
It ain't over until Gloria sings.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 02:00:22 AM
Over and done are not the same.  :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: keemster26 on June 12, 2015, 02:02:54 AM
Well that was fun...
(http://i.gyazo.com/52166490243791fcf2e8da07f4355944.png)
Dan, you're such a beast! 
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: damaxer91 on June 12, 2015, 08:25:10 AM
Heard there was a DO at last night's game
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 08:36:29 AM

Not trying to troll at all. Just trying to have a friendly discussion. If you want to talk about rapists we can bring Iverson in as well. Yes, the east can be good at times, but give me a break, it's usually extremely weak compared to the east. If GSW actually played their level of ball, even w/ Irving, GSW would've dominated.  The problem is that GSW didn't show up until tonight.

A great team doesn't not show up in the finals. That defines them as not great IMO, no one really cares about the Pats perfect season because they lost the Superbowl. You can call the East easy all day but when they go head to head and the greatest of the west lose 2 games to 1 star and a bunch of rejects it speaks for itself. With Kyrie there wouldn't be a chance? Really? How about add Love too, Cleveland would be up 4-0 if this same series had kyrie and love.

WOW Delly, hold your horses there.  :)

Of course someone can be a great player and role model. More important is there are bad players that are great role models. The problem with LB is he is a better role model off the court than on the court. Most watch sports for the on the court action not off court.
You guys can't have it both ways. If you don't think anyone can compare to Jordan than why do you keep comparing Lebron to Jordan. Lebron didn't do this, Lebron did't do that, Jordan would of done this etc. From what I can tell the reason you don't like Lebron is because you don't think he compares to Jordan so then why don't you appreciate him for being Lebron. Do you only root for the #1 player all time why can't you root for the #1 player in the league any given era? You only like #1 not #2, 3, 4, or 5 because they aren't #1?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant_sexual_assault_case
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 12, 2015, 08:53:20 AM
Heard there was a DO at last night's game

Well I wasn't invited
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 08:55:10 AM
Heard there was a DO at last night's game
Clearly the minyan didn't have such good kavana ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
I don't know how this makes me feel:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13063006/2015-nba-finals-golden-state-warriors-coach-admits-lying-plans-game-4-starting-lineup
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 12, 2015, 10:23:57 AM
I don't know how this makes me feel:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13063006/2015-nba-finals-golden-state-warriors-coach-admits-lying-plans-game-4-starting-lineup
its not a formal injury report thing (ahem belichik)
why does he have to be honest about his starting lineup before the game
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 10:35:16 AM
You guys can't have it both ways. If you don't think anyone can compare to Jordan than why do you keep comparing Lebron to Jordan.
I think you are mixed up. I didn't start this mess but I sure am not going to let this comment slide.
Where does a bleeding head compare to a flu?

Same June 11th date...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 10:37:18 AM
I think you are mixed up. I didn't start this mess but I sure am not going to let this comment slide.
I admit to comparing the 2 of them. It's you and that other guy that said in basic terms that you don't care about Lebron passing Jordan because you don't think it's even possible.

I wouldn't even think of saying Lebron is better than MJ until he wins a couple in Cle. But I appreciate Lebron's playing ability for what it is now.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 10:48:43 AM
I admit to comparing the 2 of them. It's you and that other guy that said in basic terms that you don't care about Lebron passing Jordan because you don't think it's even possible.

I wouldn't even think of saying Lebron is better than MJ until he wins a couple in Cle. But I appreciate Lebron's playing ability for what it is now.
I do care because he does not deserve it. If some said Magic is better than MJ I would also care. Lebron talent wise has peaked. He can keep this level for maybe a couple of years but he will not get any better. He can win four titles with CLE and that still doesn't change anything. Only thing that will change my mind is if his level of play increases and I don't see that happening but maybe he will prove me wrong. I still won't like him but I will admit I was wrong.

I love the way this guy plays when he gives 100%. Tell with a straight face he gave 100% on the last play of the 3rd. Tell me he gave 100% in the finals last year when the writing was on the wall. Tell me he gave 100% when he turned his back on CLE the first time.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:00:39 AM
I don't know how this makes me feel:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13063006/2015-nba-finals-golden-state-warriors-coach-admits-lying-plans-game-4-starting-lineup
Does he get points for honesty? Did I just ask that?  :) :-[ :-X
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 11:04:10 AM
I do care because he does not deserve it. If some said Magic is better than MJ I would also care. Lebron talent wise has peaked. He can keep this level for maybe a couple of years but he will not get any better. He can win four titles with CLE and that still doesn't change anything. Only thing that will change my mind is if his level of play increases and I don't see that happening but maybe he will prove me wrong. I still won't like him but I will admit I was wrong.

I love the way this guy plays when he gives 100%. Tell with a straight face he gave 100% on the last play of the 3rd. Tell me he gave 100% in the finals last year when the writing was on the wall. Tell me he gave 100% when he turned his back on CLE the first time.
I hear ya. I do not think you can count that game because of the head injury. And that's why I said IF he wins in cleveland becuase there is no way a finals is coming easy for him in cle. He was giving 100% for 3 games, I give him a pass for game 4, and will wait to see what happens the next games.

I do hope JR smith goes down as the new John Starks, if the series goes sour from here.

its not a formal injury report thing (ahem belichik)
why does he have to be honest about his starting lineup before the game
Does he get points for honesty? Did I just ask that?  :) :-[ :-X
If I thought what he did was cheating it would bother me, I think he outplayed Blatt and it cost the Cavs dearly. You'd think an Israeli would assume people are lying all the time.

No points for honesty, that was gloating.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 12, 2015, 11:08:00 AM
I don't know how this makes me feel:

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13063006/2015-nba-finals-golden-state-warriors-coach-admits-lying-plans-game-4-starting-lineup
You're kidding right? It shouldn't make you feel anything, it's a complete non-story.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:08:28 AM
If I thought what he did was cheating it would bother me, I think he outplayed Blatt and it cost the Cavs dearly. You'd think an Israeli would assume people are lying all the time.
If Blatt believed a word he said he is an idiot. I don't take Blatt as an idiot but his comment at half time that they have four more games to play wasn't to bright.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 11:10:54 AM
Pippen was a cry baby. If not for Jordan he would be an average player.
No that is not what I said. You seem to have a hard time with facts.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
His comment at half time that they have four more games to play wasn't to bright.
I yelled at the screen when I heard it lol.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:15:52 AM

Maybe you will learn the difference between saving someone IS average and commenting on what they would be under a what if situation. Pippen was a very good player for his time with the bulls but not great. I am not counting the two years with out MJ where he pulled his cry baby act in the playoffs.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 11:21:59 AM
I don't take Blatt as an idiot but his comment at half time that they have four more games to play wasn't to bright.
#ProofTheNBAIsRigged ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 12, 2015, 11:24:18 AM
Maybe you will learn the difference between saving someone IS average and commenting on what they would be under a what if situation. Pippen was a very good player for his time with the bulls but not great. I am not counting the two years with out MJ where he pulled his cry baby act in the playoffs.  :)
we've been through this before, this ends the discussion:
http://www.slamonline.com/nba/karl-malone-would-start-a-team-with-scottie-pippen-instead-of-michael-jordan/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 12, 2015, 11:24:31 AM
If Blatt believed a word he said he is an idiot. I don't take Blatt as an idiot but his comment at half time that they have four more games to play wasn't to bright.
This is not why it's a non-story. It's a non-story because there's really not much they could have done with days notice that they couldn't do when they saw Igoudala on the floor for tipoff. Forget about starting or not starting, he already played 36 minutes in each of the prior 2 games. He played 40 last night. Not that much of a change. Maybe they did a better job of lining his minutes up with Lebron's, but that's about it.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:30:41 AM
we've been through this before, this ends the discussion:
That just starts it.  :)
Karl is an idiot and the only reason he never won was because of MJ not Pippen. So his first pick would be a cry baby?  :P
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:32:30 AM
This is not why it's a non-story. It's a non-story because there's really not much they could have done with days notice that they couldn't do when they saw Igoudala on the floor for tipoff. Forget about starting or not starting, he already played 36 minutes in each of the prior 2 games. He played 40 last night. Not that much of a change. Maybe they did a better job of lining his minutes up with Lebron's, but that's about it.
They went small and quick and CLE didn't know how to handle it. I expect better from them (CLE) next game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 12, 2015, 11:32:59 AM
That just starts it.  :)
Karl is an idiot and the only reason he never won was because of MJ not Pippen. So his first pick would be a cry baby?  :P
He wants to be the alpha on his team, plain and simple. It means he cares more about his ego than winning, but I think we already knew that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:36:09 AM
He wants to be the alpha on his team, plain and simple. It means he cares more about his ego than winning, but I think we already knew that.
I actual like Karl. How can I not like someone who delivers the mail? Championships is another story.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:38:55 AM
Are these odds right for the series? Game five is GS -8 1/2.
GS -380
CLE + 300
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 11:44:01 AM
Wow.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 12, 2015, 11:45:00 AM
They went small and quick and CLE didn't know how to handle it. I expect better from them (CLE) next game.
Well... smaller. They already didn't have a traditional big in their top 5 in minutes played, but in this game their true bigs basically didn't play.

My point is that the starting lineup doesn't dictate the strategy. Total minutes, and to a lesser extent, matchups, are what's important. Bogut started the first 3 games, but only averaged 24 minutes. That's why the lying thing is a non-issue. Kerr made a strategic change, and Blatt didn't (or if you want to be generous, couldn't given his personnel) counter appropriately.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 12, 2015, 11:47:46 AM
Wow.
You got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky, well do ya punk?  :)

ML (money line) for next game.
GS -400
CLE +325
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 01:25:27 PM
When do we get the camera footage from the camera Lebron fell on?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 12, 2015, 01:48:53 PM
Does anyone know what lebrons shooting percentage is on the finals?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 01:57:49 PM
Does anyone know what lebrons shooting percentage is on the finals?
Lebron:

FG: 50/129 39%
3Pt: 8/24 33%
Total points: 143

Curry:

FG: 33/80 41%
3pt: 15/41 37%
Total points: 94

Smith:

FG: 14/47 29%
3pt: 7/28 25%
Total points: 36

Klay:

FG: 29/67 43%
3pt: 10/33: 30%
Total points: 78
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on June 12, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
Wow
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 12, 2015, 02:26:02 PM
6/24 is not 25%
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 12, 2015, 02:30:05 PM
6/24 is not 25%
Well 6/24 is 25%, anyway typo on my part. fixed.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 12, 2015, 02:31:24 PM
Well 6/24 is 25%, anyway typo on my part. fixed.
And on my part as well.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 12, 2015, 03:23:53 PM
Does anyone know what lebrons shooting percentage is on the finals?
FYI, Basketball Reference provide 'composite boxscores' (ie totals and percentages for each playoff series) - very easy to see that kind of info there.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2015_finals_CLE-GSW.html
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: damaxer91 on June 12, 2015, 04:40:39 PM
Clearly the minyan didn't have such good kavana ;)

I think there were 2 Cavs fans in the minyan. The rest were Knicks fans laughing at how you guys got stuck with J.R and Shump
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 12, 2015, 07:05:15 PM
Maybe you will learn the difference between saving someone IS average and commenting on what they would be under a what if situation. Pippen was a very good player for his time with the bulls but not great. I am not counting the two years with out MJ where he pulled his cry baby act in the playoffs.  :)
I see - It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is -  :P
(I don't know if your old enough to know what I'm referring to)  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 12, 2015, 08:18:22 PM
http://abc7news.com/sports/198-million-watch-game-4-up-34-percent-from-2014/781054/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 09:26:36 AM
(I don't know if your old enough to know what I'm referring to)  :)
Let me ask my secretary. She might know.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 03:00:11 PM
Any predictions?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 14, 2015, 03:54:07 PM
If JR has 50%+ shooting and Tristan has 15+ rebounds. Cavs by 6.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 03:58:27 PM
If JR has 50%+ shooting and Tristan has 15+ rebounds. Cavs by 6.
LOL
No if's about Curry/Delly?  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 14, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
LOL
No if's about Curry/Delly?  :)
They've been more or less consistent these finals.

You asked for a prediction. What you want me to say just cavs by 6 :P

Obviously Curry, Thomson, or Lebron can have an explosive game and change everything...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 04:10:50 PM
You asked for a prediction. What you want me to say just cavs by 6 :P
Yup.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 07:58:17 PM
Look at these lines. Do they think CLE is a HS team?  :o
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/odds/moneyline
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 14, 2015, 07:59:17 PM
Wow that +410 is really tempting.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 14, 2015, 08:04:36 PM
Acoustic anthem?
Get that weak stuff outta here.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:05:57 PM
They are killing me with this anthem. Where is Jimi when you need him?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 14, 2015, 08:06:34 PM
https://youtu.be/b6ETbNMew1c?t=9s
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 14, 2015, 08:08:01 PM
https://youtu.be/b6ETbNMew1c?t=9s
Dont know if it's just me but your link isn't working
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:09:15 PM
Dont know if it's just me but your link isn't working
Must be you.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:13:52 PM
Great start to this game.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 14, 2015, 08:14:43 PM
Great start to this game.  :)
Ugly
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:17:39 PM
What the h*ll is LeBron doing? Did he bet on GS? I have yet to see him hustle. CLE better hope this is not one of his less than 100% games.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:22:26 PM
JR is on FIRE!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
What the h*ll is LeBron doing? Did he bet on GS? I have yet to see him hustle. CLE better hope this is not one of his less than 100% games.
Take it to the hole!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
JR is on FIRE!
WOW!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 14, 2015, 08:50:30 PM
WOW!
+1.
Sorry to interrupt your soliloquy.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:59:02 PM
+1.
Sorry to interrupt your soliloquy.
How about LeBron taking it to the hole. Basketball 101. If you are the best and defended one on one take it to the hole!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
Is it just me or do these announcers suck?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 14, 2015, 09:00:22 PM
How about LeBron taking it to the hole. Basketball 101. If you are the best and defended one on one take it to the hole!
Yeah I would like to see that more. But cant complain when he's got 15 at this point.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 09:02:00 PM
Yeah I would like to see that more. But cant complain when he's got 15 at this point.
First 3 minutes I thought his feet were glued to the ground. Glad he woke up or I would have the fork out already.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 14, 2015, 09:14:16 PM
What happened to a good old hard foul.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 14, 2015, 09:18:17 PM
Talk about not 100%. Taking 10sec to get it across court.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 09:19:28 PM
Ugly start but we have a good game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
Talk about not 100%. Taking 10sec to get it across court.
Ten and he would have made it.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 10:09:01 PM
What was Curry thinking? If you are tired then let someone else take the last shot.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 14, 2015, 10:09:27 PM
If that's not the definition of a one man team
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 14, 2015, 10:12:09 PM
What was Curry thinking? If you are tired then let someone else take the last shot.
Getting defensive about that shot because you have (and would have) killed Lebron had he taken that shot ;) ;D
#KeepingCMHonest
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 10:22:38 PM
Getting defensive about that shot because you have (and would have) killed Lebron had he taken that shot ;) ;D
#KeepingCMHonest
I don't care who is taking the last shot. One on one you take it the hole, basketball 101.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 14, 2015, 10:23:47 PM
What a show!!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 14, 2015, 10:24:26 PM
What a show!!
Stars are coming out on both sides. Where is JR?  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 14, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
If Curry and Thompson are on fire ain't nothing going to compete with that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 14, 2015, 10:26:16 PM
Stars are coming out on both sides. Where is JR?  :)
Probably making bad fouls.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on June 14, 2015, 10:36:21 PM
Not defendable
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: MisterHock on June 14, 2015, 10:36:31 PM
(http://imgur.com/8BlDdsX.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 14, 2015, 10:48:02 PM
Did he just not come back on offense?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 14, 2015, 11:19:56 PM
Feel bad for Lebron, I'd actually be surprised if he comes out trying as hard the next game. After numbers like he had and lose, we shall see what he does at home.

That said we can easily be back in GS on Friday.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 02:07:00 AM
Feel bad for Lebron, I'd actually be surprised if he comes out trying as hard the next game. After numbers like he had and lose, we shall see what he does at home.
Why would you feel bad for him? This is the #1 knock on him.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 15, 2015, 02:22:10 AM
Great game!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 09:05:31 AM
ďI feel confident because Iím the best player in the world,Ē he said at the post-game news conference. ďItís that simple.Ē

He is the MVJ or MVL, pick one or both.

Maybe LeBron should learn from one of the greatest on and off the field.
ďWhen you're good at something, you'll tell everyone. When you're great at something, they'll tell you.Ē
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 15, 2015, 09:19:41 AM
I wonder what is the most 24 second violations ever in a finals series.

Also wonder the most offensive rebounds off missed foul shots in a finals game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JT27MP on June 15, 2015, 10:19:40 AM
ďI feel confident because Iím the best player in the world,Ē he said at the post-game news conference. ďItís that simple.Ē

He is the MVJ or MVL, pick one or both.

Maybe LeBron should learn from one of the greatest on and off the field.
ďWhen you're good at something, you'll tell everyone. When you're great at something, they'll tell you.Ē

That's a great quote!
Just googled who said it.
Figures you'd be quoting someone from Chicago. :P
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 10:41:28 AM
I think we seen from the end of last game Delly has nothing to do with the way Curry scores.
Hate to tell you I told you so but a fork in Delly.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 15, 2015, 12:11:08 PM
Hate to tell you I told you so but a fork in Delly.
Yeah, the mirage can only go on for so long.

What will it take for Curry to wrestle the MVP away from Lebron? He's got to go for 40 I think.
Think about it, take Lebron off the Cavs and you have a 4 game sweep with the average point differential at around 40. Hard to be more valuable than that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 12:23:57 PM
What will it take for Curry to wrestle the MVP away from Lebron? He's got to go for 40 I think.
Think about it, take Lebron off the Cavs and you have a 4 game sweep with the average point differential at around 40. Hard to be more valuable than that.
I totally disagree. Anyone that says he is the best in the world and has the ball over 80% of the time should be scoring 50 or more.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 15, 2015, 12:39:51 PM
I totally disagree. Anyone that says he is the best in the world and has the ball over 80% of the time should be scoring 50 or more.
I fail to see how that statement in any way disagrees with what I said
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2015, 01:03:04 PM
Fink is the ultimate troll, https://www.facebook.com/eliyahu.fink/posts/10103318020277595
Cavs would be no better with Love+Irving.  This guy must really love the response he gets out of people when he says dumb stuff.  Sadly this is far from the dumbest thing I've read from him.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: robbie on June 15, 2015, 01:15:42 PM
I hope everyone here is watching the same series as I am watching. Lebron james is far far superior then anyone else on the court. He is by far the best player in the world. He is dominating this finals. Period.
Sit back and enjoy these next 2 games (hopefully) as we are all watching greatness at its best.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 15, 2015, 01:17:03 PM
Fink is the ultimate troll, https://www.facebook.com/eliyahu.fink/posts/10103318020277595
Cavs would be no better with Love+Irving.  This guy must really love the response he gets out of people when he says dumb stuff.  Sadly this is far from the dumbest thing I've read from him.
Definitely not a topic he comes off as even mildly educated in.

But then again, don't be so shocked to hear people suggest that very thing. Ever heard of the Ewing Theory?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 15, 2015, 01:19:45 PM
None of the Cavs big 3 qualify for that theory.  Their losses are all quantifiable.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: robbie on June 15, 2015, 01:24:40 PM
just for the record as of now if cavs win or loose, my mvp vote is going to lebron
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 15, 2015, 01:31:02 PM
So what does happen if Lebron has another 40 point triple double in game 6 and the cavs lose?

Curry doesn't deserve mvp because he stunk the first 3 or so games, Thompson has been so-so, Igodala would have had my vote but he went like 1-10 from the free throw and wasn't very good yesterday.

Can a losing team player win MVP? Probably not, but if so does Curry just get it by default?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: robbie on June 15, 2015, 01:34:05 PM
So what does happen if Lebron has another 40 point triple double in game 6 and the cavs lose?

Curry doesn't deserve mvp because he stunk the first 3 or so games, Thompson has been so-so, Igodala would have had my vote but he went like 1-10 from the free throw and wasn't very good yesterday.

Can a losing team player win MVP? Probably not, but if so does Curry just get it by default?
Officially a losing team player can win mvp, It has happend oncein history 1969. If it doesnt go to lebron it will go to curry by default.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
I hope everyone here is watching the same series as I am watching. Lebron james is far far superior then anyone else on the court. He is by far the best player in the world. He is dominating this finals. Period.
Sit back and enjoy these next 2 games (hopefully) as we are all watching greatness at its best.
You are way past the smoking part, you are now shooting up. You want to be the best then prove it when in counts. Take every shot in the forth if you have to. Take ever possession to hole. Go through two, three or the whole team if you have to. In the end you better put a "W" on the board or keep your mouth shut.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: robbie on June 15, 2015, 01:40:47 PM
You are way past the smoking part, you are now shooting up. You want to be the best then prove it when in counts. Take every shot in the forth if you have to. Take ever possession to hole. Go through two, three or the whole team if you have to. In the end you better put a "W" on the board or keep your mouth shut.
i dont understand your post. Lebron james is the BEST player on the court. No questions asked. Are you watching the finals?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 15, 2015, 01:46:10 PM
i dont understand your post. Lebron james is the BEST player on the court. No questions asked. Are you watching the finals?


He is by far the best player in the world.
That's what he's arguing w/ you about.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 01:47:27 PM
i dont understand your post. Lebron james is the BEST player on the court. No questions asked. Are you watching the finals?
Because you are being LeBron sided. Were is the LB defensive player we all know he can be? How many times you see him dive for a ball? How many charging fouls did he take? CLE can only win with there defense not there offense. If you have to put him on Curry.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 01:48:13 PM
That's what he's arguing w/ you about.
There is no argument as Curry is the best player in the world this year.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 15, 2015, 01:50:04 PM
There is no argument as Curry is the best player in the world this year.
True. That's why I thought you were disagreeing w/ him.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: robbie on June 15, 2015, 01:55:34 PM
lets switch curry and lebron and see what happens.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 01:56:49 PM
lets switch curry and lebron and see what happens.
GS still wins.  ???
Curry puts in 50+ each game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on June 15, 2015, 01:57:43 PM
GS still wins.  ???
FTFY
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: robbie on June 15, 2015, 01:57:46 PM
GS wins.  ???
There is no argument as Curry is the best player in the world this year.

 ??? ???
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
??? ???
I will try and make this simple for you. Take whoever you think is the greatest player of all-time and put them on CLE. GS still wins. All this player can hope to do is if it is close in the fourth is to take control and hope for the best.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 15, 2015, 02:22:15 PM
None of the Cavs big 3 qualify for that theory.  Their losses are all quantifiable.
Quantifiable losses? Never seen that written as a prerequisite (or more precisely, disqualification).
So what does happen if Lebron has another 40 point triple double in game 6 and the cavs lose?

Curry doesn't deserve mvp because he stunk the first 3 or so games, Thompson has been so-so, Igodala would have had my vote but he went like 1-10 from the free throw and wasn't very good yesterday.

Can a losing team player win MVP? Probably not, but if so does Curry just get it by default?
Through 5 games, he's averaging 26/5/6 on 45/41/94 shooting with 1.6 steals. I agree that's not typical finals MVP level, but it's certainly good enough to win it. And why does everyone keep saying he stunk the first 3 games? Game 2 he stunk for sure, but the other 2 games he was good - not MVP good, but all-star good (26.5/5/7 on 50/47/100 shooting).

LBJ has been impressive, for sure. But the gaudy numbers haven't come with much efficiency.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 15, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
http://www.csnbayarea.com/warriors/nba-finals-stat-pack-lebron-struggling-crunch-time?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&ref=yfp
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 05:09:25 PM
http://www.csnbayarea.com/warriors/nba-finals-stat-pack-lebron-struggling-crunch-time?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo&ref=yfp
This is when he has to step up.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 15, 2015, 05:16:40 PM
Series bet.
GS -1100
CLE +700

MVP - Who wants to put their money where their mouth is?  :)
Curry -250
LeBron +160
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 15, 2015, 11:48:17 PM


Oh no! That's the LeBron we saw after he lost to the Mavs.

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: kracked dude on June 16, 2015, 09:19:36 AM
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2015/06/cleveland-cavaliers-nba-finals-finding-the-all-in-in-chicago/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 16, 2015, 10:24:26 AM
BREAKING NEWS! CLE is now the favorite to win it all
































in 2016.  :)
Title: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 16, 2015, 10:03:40 PM
Game 7 DO CM?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Dan on June 16, 2015, 10:34:57 PM
Get a heter to attend ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yoruel on June 16, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Who gets MVP?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 16, 2015, 11:45:40 PM
Anyone with forks?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 16, 2015, 11:46:07 PM
Who gets MVP?
Definitely not LBJ
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 16, 2015, 11:46:09 PM

Anyone with forks?

They got some in the galley behind me
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yoruel on June 16, 2015, 11:56:14 PM
Definitely not LBJ
hate to break this, Curry should not be MVP.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: grodnoking on June 17, 2015, 12:03:11 AM
Great fight they put up.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: davidjw0914 on June 17, 2015, 12:09:34 AM
Lebron ain't kobe
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 12:14:46 AM
Who gets MVP?
This isn't the joke thread.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 12:38:34 AM
Game 7 DO CM?
You are funny. I didn't see the end. Did they make a game out of it?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 17, 2015, 12:40:02 AM

You are funny. I didn't see the end. Did they make a game out of it?

They hit some 3s at the end but didn't come within fighting distance in the 4th.

Dwight harden won the MVP
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: grodnoking on June 17, 2015, 12:42:29 AM
They hit some 3s at the end but didn't come within fighting distance in the 4th.

Dwight harden won the MVP
They were down by 4 at one point.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 17, 2015, 12:43:41 AM

They were down by 4 at one point.

For how long? Every time they came close in the 4th curry (or someone else) hit a 3.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: grodnoking on June 17, 2015, 12:44:57 AM
For how long? Every time they came close in the 4th curry (or someone else) hit a 3.
Very short. Went back to eleven right away. From 15 thou
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 17, 2015, 12:46:03 AM
Damn turnovers. How were the refs? Unfortunately settled w audio only as my flight didn't have abc :(
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: grodnoking on June 17, 2015, 12:49:33 AM
Damn turnovers. How were the refs? Unfortunately settled w audio only as my flight didn't have abc :(
Nothing to change the game. May have called a bad foul and missed a back court but called a foul for the proper team a second later.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 12:52:33 AM
Dwight harden won the MVP
I hope so as he said he was the best player in the league. Does LeBron best player in the world statement trump that? Talk about two chumps.  :)

I think I have my Hardens mixed up.  :-[
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: shiframeir on June 17, 2015, 01:07:20 AM
Can't figure out whether lebron is simply the best player ever, or the Warriors just really aren't very good. Basically one man vs a top-winning team and he takes them to 6 tip he konks out/gives up.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 01:14:12 AM
Can't figure out whether lebron is simply the best player ever, or the Warriors just really aren't very good. Basically one man vs a top-winning team and he takes them to 6 tip he konks out/gives up.
Can we stop this one man BS. If anyone gets credit for one of the wins it is one hit wonder Delly. That means LB lost four out of five games.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 01:19:18 AM
Is the MVP just for the finals or the whole playoffs?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 01:37:54 AM
Is the MVP just for the finals or the whole playoffs?
Just for the finals.

I vote get rid of love and Irving. Don't need multiple injury players on a finals run.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 01:50:58 AM
I vote get rid of love and Irving. Don't need multiple injury players on a finals run.
1 - trade them to the Nicks
2 - trade them to the Bulls for Rose
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on June 17, 2015, 03:06:51 AM
Will they keep Blatt?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 08:06:32 AM
Will they keep Blatt?
For sure. Sentiment in cleveland fwiu is making the finals was an overachievment for our team and then winning 2 games without Love and Irving was amazing. And obviously TheKnee and TheShoulder or is it just TheInjuries will live on in infamy.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 09:20:47 AM
For sure. Sentiment in cleveland fwiu is making the finals was an overachievment for our team and then winning 2 games without Love and Irving was amazing. And obviously TheKnee and TheShoulder or is it just TheInjuries will live on in infamy.
Maybe a better question is should they.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 17, 2015, 09:34:21 AM



I think I have my Hardens mixed up.  :-[

I know what I said :)
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 17, 2015, 09:35:30 AM

Can we stop this one man BS. If anyone gets credit for one of the wins it is one hit wonder Delly. That means LB lost four out of five games.

How about Curry? He stunk game 2. I'd give him credit for the cavs win.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 09:39:46 AM
How about Curry? He stunk game 2. I'd give him credit for the cavs win.
All I have heard it was because of Delly which I said from day one had nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 09:40:33 AM
Am I reading the MVP vote wrong. Curry received no votes?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: EJB on June 17, 2015, 09:41:47 AM

All I have heard it was because of Delly which I said from day one had nothing to do with it.

Id give him credit for stripping the MVP from the MVP.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 09:44:49 AM
Id give him credit for stripping the MVP from the MVP.
That is a good point.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: elit on June 17, 2015, 09:46:06 AM
Can we stop this one man BS. If anyone gets credit for one of the wins it is one hit wonder Delly. That means LB lost four out of five games.
Can you stop your Chicago bias and quit trashing the guy. He's amazing one of the best ever. You don't need to be defensive about MJ
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 17, 2015, 09:48:22 AM
Am I reading the MVP vote wrong. Curry received no votes?
Better  question How does a guy who had to be taken out of the end of every close game bc he can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it win the MVP?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 09:48:41 AM
Am I reading the MVP vote wrong. Curry received no votes?
Correct.

New strategy. Lebron, love, and Irving are bench players all season long. And then come playoffs we put them in the starting lineup.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 09:51:33 AM
Can you stop your Chicago bias and quit trashing the guy. He's amazing one of the best ever. You don't need to be defensive about MJ
I don't like the guy and think he is overrated. It has nothing to with Chicago or MJ. His numbers late in the game are not that great.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 09:53:41 AM
Better  question How does a guy who had to be taken out of the end of every close game bc he can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it win the MVP?
Or how about no matter how much you are in love with LeBron how does Curry not get one vote?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: elit on June 17, 2015, 10:00:57 AM
I don't like the guy and think he is overrated. It has nothing to with Chicago or MJ. His numbers late in the game are not that great.
Maybe his numbers late aren't great bc he's completelywe worn down from carrying them the whole game. Here set record for combined points assists and rebounds in the finals how is that overrated
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
I don't like the guy and think he is overrated. It has nothing to with Chicago or MJ. His numbers late in the game are not that great.
If you can't admit you are biased the conversation is over.
Maybe his numbers late aren't great bc he's completelywe worn down from carrying them the whole game. Here set record for combined points assists and rebounds in the finals how is that overrated
He had record number specifically because his team did nothing. Put MJ on his team and his numbers decrease this series no increase. Even with Love and Irving his numbers would have decreased.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 17, 2015, 10:03:26 AM
Better  question How does a guy who had to be taken out of the end of every close game bc he can't hit a free throw if his life depended on it win the MVP?
Shouldn't be that surprising.

                MPG     PTS/RB/AST     STL/BLK/TO    FG%/3P%/FT%
Player A: 33.4     17.8/6.4/2.0     1.6/1.2/1.8     .612/.579/.783
Player B: 37.1     16.3/5.8/4.0     1.3/0.3/1.0     .521/.400/.357

Those stat lines aren't so different, I'll leave it to you to figure out whose they are.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: elit on June 17, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
If you can't admit you are biased the conversation is over. He had record number specifically because his team did nothing. Put MJ on his team and his numbers decrease this series no increase. Even with Love and Irving his numbers would have decreased.
Not sure what your therefore is
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 10:06:51 AM
Maybe his numbers late aren't great bc he's completelywe worn down from carrying them the whole game. Here set record for combined points assists and rebounds in the finals how is that overrated
He had the ball for almost every play. Put any of the greats in his position and the numbers would be off the charts. How many points you think Wilt would have?

I have a question about assists. Basically a assist is when you pass the ball because your teammate has a better shot. When your teammates consistently show they are not hitting the shots why are you passing the ball off?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: elit on June 17, 2015, 10:09:43 AM


He had the ball for almost every play. Put any of the greats in his position and the numbers would be off the charts. How many points you think Wilt would have?

I have a question about assists. Basically a assist is when you pass the ball because your teammate has a better shot. When your teammates consistently show they are not hitting the shots why are you passing the ball off?

A)What do you think LeBron would've done with the players Jordan has around him?
B)bc it's physically impossible to bring the ball up every play and create a shot for yourself every single play. The breaks he took was being the point guard instead of the shooter
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 10:10:37 AM
Not sure what your therefore is

This:
He had the ball for almost every play. Put any of the greats in his position and the numbers would be off the charts. How many points you think Wilt would have?

If we threw MJ in the finals without his sidekicks like Lebron had this year, he would of has insane numbers as well, looking at numbers and saying how this is an all time high numbers doesn't tell a whole story.

Winning 2 games was impressive, but he needed to win 4, and losing 2 at home, this "record" will not be remembered as anything special.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: elit on June 17, 2015, 10:12:42 AM
This:
If we threw MJ in the finals without his sidekicks like Lebron had this year, he would of has insane numbers as well, looking at numbers and saying how this is an all time high numbers doesn't tell a whole story.

Winning 2 games was impressive, but he needed to win 4, and losing 2 at home, this "record" will not be remembered as anything special.
Oh. I Agree but that doesn't make him overrated...you have to look at the flip slide as well- what he would've done with a better team
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 10:13:31 AM
If you can't admit you are biased the conversation is over. He had record number specifically because his team did nothing. Put MJ on his team and his numbers decrease this series no increase. Even with Love and Irving his numbers would have decreased.
So I am biased and you are not? Look I don't like this guy. He is a quitter at times and does not give 100%. He can be traded to Chicago and my opinion would not change.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 10:15:43 AM
So I am biased and you are not? Look I don't like this guy. He is a quitter at times and does not give 100%. He can be traded to Chicago and my opinion would not change.
Of course I am and I admit it. Do you?

Eta: the reason an assist is something awarded is because in theory your good pass directly led to a shot being made. Meaning you set up the play to have the guy open to make a good shot. For example if Lebron drives to the hole and has 3 guys on him then passes to JR for a 3 he deserves credit for getting JR open.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 10:17:37 AM
Winning 2 games was impressive, but he needed to win 4, and losing 2 at home, this "record" will not be remembered as anything special.
LeBron was CLE's MVP hands down. I just don't understand this "he" won the games. If anything won the games it was their defense and one player does not make up a defense.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 10:20:25 AM
LeBron was CLE's MVP hands down. I just don't understand this "he" won the games. If anything won the games it was their defense and one player does not make up a defense.
He's the leader, he led the D in those games with Delly being a star, and defense is also dependent on offence which was all him. Hence he won the games.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 10:24:19 AM
Of course I am and I admit it. Do you?

Eta: the reason an assist is something awarded is because in theory your good pass directly led to a shot being made. Meaning you set up the play to have the guy open to make a good shot. For example if Lebron drives to the hole and has 3 guys on him then passes to JR for a 3 he deserves credit for getting JR open.
My bias comes from his attitude toward the game and has nothing to do with MJ. Swap Magic and LB for this series and Magic numbers would be off the charts.

I agree with your assist assessment. My point is if your teammates are not making these open shots you are getting them (JR) then I don't care if you have three defenders on you. The better shot would be you. Now here is a big problem for LB. He has a hard time beating a double team and a triple is out of the question.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 10:30:35 AM
He's the leader, he led the D in those games with Delly being a star, and defense is also dependent on offence which was all him. Hence he won the games.
LB? Who was he guarding or who did he double team? Was that him I saw diving on the ground for the ball? All I seen was him getting a kiss from his Mom during the game because of a little cut on his head.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 10:40:01 AM
Oh. I Agree but that doesn't make him overrated...you have to look at the flip slide as well- what he would've done with a better team
You mean like with Bosh and Wade? What did he do when that went south? This among other things is why I don't like him.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 10:54:54 AM
Those stat lines aren't so different, I'll leave it to you to figure out whose they are.
I give, who?
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Baruch on June 17, 2015, 11:11:55 AM
LB? Who was he guarding or who did he double team? Was that him I saw diving on the ground for the ball? All I seen was him getting a kiss from his Mom during the game because of a little cut on his head.
everytime you mention the little cut, you prove you're biased.
Maybe your too old to remember. But I was a kid 2 decades ago - and I still remember. When you fall hard into someting that causes a laceration on your skull - your head kills - absolutely kills - for hours. You get weak and off balanced.
 Grow up about the fall and the kiss, what should he do about the fact that his Momma loves him?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 17, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
I give, who?
Player A: Kawhi Leonard, 2014 NBA Finals MVP
Player B: Andre Iguodala, 2015 NBA Finals MVP

I'm being a bit facetious, Leonard's MVP was actually a much easier case to make, which I'll do in a moment. But my point was that all this talk about the no-stats MVP makes it sound like it's unheard of, when it just happened last year.

Leonard's MVP was less contentious because the Spurs played such a team game, and they lacked another player with the kind of stat line Curry finished with. On top of that, Lebron had a less impressive stat line (mostly because he wasn't doing it all himself) and therefore there was no talk of him winning it in defeat.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 11:21:08 AM
everytime you mention the little cut, you prove you're biased.
Maybe your too old to remember. But I was a kid 2 decades ago - and I still remember. When you fall hard into someting that causes a laceration on your skull - your head kills - absolutely kills - for hours. You get weak and off balanced.
 Grow up about the fall and the kiss, what should he do about the fact that his Momma loves him?
Maybe you should watch a sport were they play with broken hands and a torn groin and you might understand what I am talking about. Also I know all to well about head injuries.

Having your Mom give you a kiss during a championship game because you have a boo boo shows she loves you? It was called something else when I was growing up.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 11:21:48 AM
Player A: Kawhi Leonard, 2014 NBA Finals MVP
Player B: Andre Iguodala, 2015 NBA Finals MVP
Had B but no idea on A.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Baruch on June 17, 2015, 11:27:43 AM
Maybe you should watch a sport were they play with broken hands and a torn groin and you might understand what I am talking about. Also I know all to well about head injuries.

He played thru the injury. He just couldn't dominate.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 17, 2015, 11:29:11 AM
Had B but no idea on A.
Yeah, it wasn't really meant to be a guessing game. The idea is to show the comparison without the context of the names, and make the point about their similarity.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 11:33:32 AM
He played thru the injury. He just couldn't dominate.
Did he say anything about this injury effecting his play?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 11:38:36 AM
Since I am biased can someone explain how LB gets four votes and Curry does not get even one? Take Curry out with an injury and does GS win?

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
Since I am biased can someone explain how LB gets four votes and Curry does not get even one? Take Curry out with an injury and does GS win?


Because your biased there is nothing to explain, hopefully you can look at outsiders like those votes and at least realize you are biased.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: Baruch on June 17, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
Did he say anything about this injury effecting his play?
If it did effect his play - would he?

At the end of the half he was asked if his head was hurting and he said "what do you think?"
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 04:09:43 PM
Because your biased there is nothing to explain, hopefully you can look at outsiders like those votes and at least realize you are biased.
Actually I do look at outsiders and those who do it for a living. Vegas baby! If this was between Curry and LeBron only, then Curry wins it. Also think about what you just said. According to these outsiders by an overwhelming majority an off the bench player was better than LB. I guess according to these unbiased outsiders I am right that LB is overrated?

I will show you how biased I am when it comes to sports. Before game six (switching sports) TB was +350 to win the Cup. I put a nice hunk of change down on TB because I think with my head not with my heart. Even if I explained it so a five year old could understand most Hawk fans still would not. I see this LeBron discussion the same way.
Title: Re: DDF DO: SFO Edition
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 04:11:45 PM
If it did effect his play - would he?
From I guy who is losing the NBA Championship and claims he is the best in the world I would say yes he would tell us.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 17, 2015, 04:13:59 PM
Actually I do look at outsiders and those who do it for a living. Vegas baby! If this was between Curry and LeBron only, then Curry wins it. Also think about what you just said. According to these outsiders by an overwhelming majority an off the bench player was better than LB. I guess according to these unbiased outsiders I am right that LB is overrated?

I will show you how biased I am when it comes to sports. Before game six (switching sports) TB was +350 to win the Cup. I put a nice hunk of change down on TB because I think with my head not with my heart. Even if I explained it so a five year old could understand most Hawk fans still would not. I see this LeBron discussion the same way.
Maybe you bet against your team to give yourself a consolation prize if they lost :P
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
Maybe you bet against your team to give yourself a consolation prize if they lost :P
No, before game six against the Ducks the Hawks were +600 to win the Cup and I went all in. I know you will understand the logic.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 04:25:37 PM
Actually I do look at outsiders and those who do it for a living. Vegas baby! If this was between Curry and LeBron only, then Curry wins it. Also think about what you just said. According to these outsiders by an overwhelming majority an off the bench player was better than LB. I guess according to these unbiased outsiders I am right that LB is overrated?

I will show you how biased I am when it comes to sports. Before game six (switching sports) TB was +350 to win the Cup. I put a nice hunk of change down on TB because I think with my head not with my heart. Even if I explained it so a five year old could understand most Hawk fans still would not. I see this LeBron discussion the same way.

This is filled with so many logical errors and conclusions I don't even know where to start.

-Vegas bet on GS not curry vs Lebron
-Lebron may be the first player to ever win a finals game with no other all stars on his team.
-The outsiders will 99.9% of the time choose a player from the winning team the fact that a player form the losing team receives any votes shows how good that player really is.
-Your last example shows nothing to do with anything of this discussion, other than you couldn't predict the winner of the cup this year.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 04:33:50 PM
JJ you just don't get it and I fully understand why but let me try and help you out.
1 - Yes Vegas had Curry/LeBron bets for MVP.
2 - LeBron never won a Finals game by himself and never will. 
3 - A bench player was considered better than LB by these outsiders who you used as a yardstick for me being biased. Can't have it both ways.
4 - You might want to learn about betting before making an idiotic statement like that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 05:00:40 PM
JJ you just don't get it and I fully understand why but let me try and help you out.
1 - Yes Vegas had Curry/LeBron bets for MVP.
2 - LeBron never won a Finals game by himself and never will. 
3 - A bench player was considered better than LB by these outsiders who you used as a yardstick for me being biased. Can't have it both ways.
4 - You might want to learn about betting before making an idiotic statement like that.
1. Didn't know which odds you were referring to, and same logic applies Curry was winning team.
2. Correct. Did I say he won all by himself? He won without other all stars on the team.
3. MVP of finals has no relation to whether a player is overrated or not.
4. I get it you listen to what others tell you and don't think for yourself. Vegas tells you do this you do this, they tell you do that you do that.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 05:24:23 PM
4. I get it you listen to what others tell you and don't think for yourself. Vegas tells you do this you do this, they tell you do that you do that.
You just went from an idiotic statement to I am speechless. I know many years of defeat has blurred your vision but hopefully it hasn't diminished your math skills.

What happens when you bet on two teams playing each other and one is +600 and the other is +350? Hint: Something is impossible to happen if you bet proportionately.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 05:48:32 PM
You just went from an idiotic statement to I am speechless. I know many years of defeat has blurred your vision but hopefully it hasn't diminished your math skills.

What happens when you bet on two teams playing each other and one is +600 and the other is +350? Hint: Something is impossible to happen if you bet proportionately.
Who mentioned betting proportionately?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 05:53:01 PM
Vegas (who I follow blindly) has CLE at the top of the list at 5/2 to win it all next year. They have it just about right. CLE should be the favorite but at higher odds.

So the player I dislike so much and am so biased against his team is the favorite and I agree. That must mean one of two things.
1 - I worship Vegas and will never go against what they say.
2 - Even with my biased position I can look at things fairly unlike some who have been suffering for so many years.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 05:55:19 PM
Who mentioned betting proportionately?
I did and assumed you knew that. Now do you now understand what I did with the bet?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 17, 2015, 06:06:15 PM
I did and assumed you knew that. Now do you now understand what I did with the bet?
Did not know that. I get it now as much as I care to get odds for now.

Vegas (who I follow blindly) has CLE at the top of the list at 5/2 to win it all next year. They have it just about right. CLE should be the favorite but at higher odds.

So the player I dislike so much and am so biased against his team is the favorite and I agree. That must mean one of two things.
1 - I worship Vegas and will never go against what they say.
2 - Even with my biased position I can look at things fairly unlike some who have been suffering for so many years.  :)
I'm going with the Vegas theory.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 06:10:12 PM
I'm going with the Vegas theory.
:)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 17, 2015, 06:58:14 PM
I did and assumed you knew that. Now do you now understand what I did with the bet?
Did you hedge to break even, or to make the same profit with either result (or somewhere in between)?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 17, 2015, 07:13:37 PM
Did you hedge to break even, or to make the same profit with either result (or somewhere in between)?
About 15% more on the Hawks. Round figures for ever 1k I collected on the Hawks it would drop to 850 if TB won. No way will I ever pass up that 100% sure thing. It the end it actually worked against me since the Hawks won. Leaving the bet alone would have returned the max results but with risks.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 18, 2015, 02:21:30 PM
Here's Magic Johnson's opinion on LeBron:
"This is as good as we've ever seen. It won't be the top because he did lose. So we're going to have to still go with (Michael) Jordan as one, but now he can probably take number two spot. It will be 1-A Jordan and 1-B LeBron," Johnson said.

@CM, what do you think?  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 18, 2015, 02:30:46 PM
About 15% more on the Hawks. Round figures for ever 1k I collected on the Hawks it would drop to 850 if TB won. No way will I ever pass up that 100% sure thing. It the end it actually worked against me since the Hawks won. Leaving the bet alone would have returned the max results but with risks.
in the end you came out on top
good job
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 18, 2015, 02:33:24 PM
@CM, what do you think?  :)
He needs glasses?  :)

Jordan's teams were 6-0. MJ did what he had to do to win those championships with a good/great supporting cast.

Swap MJ and LB in this series and MJ scores 50 a game with less assists and rebounds. He is not going to keep passing to guys who miss shots.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 18, 2015, 03:18:02 PM
He needs glasses?  :)

Jordan's teams were 6-0. MJ did what he had to do to win those championships with a good/great supporting cast.

Swap MJ and LB in this series and MJ scores 50 a game with less assists and rebounds. He is not going to keep passing to guys who miss shots.
You're awfully confident in an untestable hypothesis - very brave of you.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 18, 2015, 03:23:01 PM
You're awfully confident in an untestable hypothesis - very brave of you.
We are in JS.  :)

I forgot to add MJ would have more steals and plays better defense.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 18, 2015, 04:20:15 PM
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e15/11430202_1109238585759643_612902379_n.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 18, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
Who do the Cav's let go? Only a couple players are locked up.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 18, 2015, 07:21:25 PM
Who do the Cav's let go? Only a couple players are locked up.
Is JR locked up ?  I'd let him go either way.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 18, 2015, 07:23:33 PM
Is JR locked up ? 
No
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 18, 2015, 10:58:29 PM
It's not about any individual team.

It's the collective failure of all 3 pro teams, time and time again, blown opportunity after blown opportunity, for the entire lives of most of that city's inhabitants.

And that exists nowhere but CLE so quit your whining and let us commiserate and create new names for each failure in peace.

http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/championship-starved-cities-1434420178-slideshow/tony-gwynn-of-the-san-diego-padres-during-game-four-of-the-world-series-against-the-new-york-photo-1402932727475.html

apparently San Diego has you beat in years, but only 2 teams
(not counting the clippers 6 years, rockets 4 years
although CLE had the barons (hockey) for 4 year)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 19, 2015, 01:10:56 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/championship-starved-cities-1434420178-slideshow/tony-gwynn-of-the-san-diego-padres-during-game-four-of-the-world-series-against-the-new-york-photo-1402932727475.html

apparently San Diego has you beat in years, but only 2 teams
(not counting the clippers 6 years, rockets 4 years
although CLE had the barons (hockey) for 4 year)
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/13099055/nba-cleveland-cavaliers-finals-run-cause-celebration
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 19, 2015, 01:26:26 AM
I love how these stories take a life on of their own. First it was Delly now it is the Lebron greatest performance by an individual in finals history story. I will give them one thing, it is a good read.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on June 19, 2015, 08:31:24 AM
I love how these stories take a life on of their own. First it was Delly now it is the Lebron greatest performance by an individual in finals history story. I will give them one thing, it is a good read.
Espn is never to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 19, 2015, 10:06:26 AM


Skip to around 2:25 but the whole thing is pretty funny.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 19, 2015, 10:25:00 AM


Skip to around 2:25 but the whole thing is pretty funny.
I will go with the chocolate/vanilla as the best.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 19, 2015, 10:35:08 AM
I will go with the chocolate/vanilla as the best.
Elmo wins it for me

Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 19, 2015, 11:04:40 AM
Is JR locked up ?
No but he should be.

(He has a $10M player option for next year.)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 19, 2015, 12:59:25 PM
No but he should be.

(He has a $10M player option for next year.)
LOL
Are you a CLE fan?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Am on June 21, 2015, 09:52:04 PM
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Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 21, 2015, 11:08:17 PM
/photo/1
Will this BS ever end?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Am on June 21, 2015, 11:12:49 PM
The entire sports business world(ESPN, Nike etc.) has invested too much into him. It's too difficult to just write it off
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 21, 2015, 11:15:28 PM
The entire sports business world(ESPN, Nike etc.) has invested too much into him. It's too difficult to just write it off
I guess you are right but I thought those with a half of a brain would know better.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Am on June 21, 2015, 11:26:51 PM

I guess you are right but I thought those with a half of a brain would know better.
these people with half a brain now best. His merchandise is flying off the shelves and ratings are through the roof.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 22, 2015, 08:18:15 AM
...and ratings are through the roof.
Just more BS. They don't even approach the ratings from over 15 years ago.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 22, 2015, 11:07:29 AM
LOL
Are you a CLE fan?
Very much so.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 22, 2015, 11:08:53 AM
Very much so.
Hopefully your wait will be over next year. This coming from a Cubs fan.  ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on June 23, 2015, 10:20:09 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/phil-jackson-says-lebron-usually-travels--team-offense-no-longer-exists-003831330.html
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on June 23, 2015, 01:42:39 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/phil-jackson-says-lebron-usually-travels--team-offense-no-longer-exists-003831330.html
He's so delusional at his point that it's actually kind of sad.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on June 25, 2015, 06:18:44 PM
So.... Who's ready for the draft?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yoruel on June 25, 2015, 08:05:37 PM
Some 8-9 year old crying over Knicks picks.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2015, 11:16:43 PM
This is how the Celtics subtly suggest that Love should sign with them:




























(http://imgick.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2015/04/26/-9f93a83ab32df871.jpg)

(http://imgick.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width960/img/plain-dealer/photo/2015/04/26/-5acc763cdedfda9c.jpg)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 25, 2015, 11:40:33 PM
This is how the Celtics subtly suggest that Love should sign with them:
Awesome!!!

Glad he's gone, now get rid of kyrie and we can start to build a team around Lebron. Don't need late season injuries the next 5 years while we try and win it all.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 25, 2015, 11:41:18 PM
He's not going anywhere.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 25, 2015, 11:44:31 PM
He's not going anywhere.
Kyrie? Ya I know, shame. Just hope he stays healthy and he's a great guy to have around.

Everyone in Miami seem to think Wade is going to the Cavs, does cleveland think so too?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on June 26, 2015, 12:16:56 AM
Kyrie? Ya I know, shame. Just hope he stays healthy and he's a great guy to have around.

Everyone in Miami seem to think Wade is going to the Cavs, does cleveland think so too?
No, Love isn't going anywhere. Not sure why one fluke (malicious?) injury after a career of sustained health makes you an injury liability.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 26, 2015, 12:26:37 AM
Glad he's gone, now get rid of kyrie and we can start to build a team around Lebron.
LeBron does not want a team built around him. He wants a ready made team. This is his MO.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on June 26, 2015, 08:42:13 AM
the reaction to the porzingis pick was amazing
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: elit on June 28, 2015, 05:45:23 PM
Oh man CM is going to have a field day http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13163726/lebron-james-bypass-option-cleveland-cavaliers-become-free-agent
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 28, 2015, 05:48:44 PM
LeBron does not want a team built around him. He wants a ready made team. This is his MO.
Agreed that's why he left the first time.

I don't understand why he doesn't play for $500k a year.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 28, 2015, 05:55:34 PM
Oh man CM is going to have a field day http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13163726/lebron-james-bypass-option-cleveland-cavaliers-become-free-agent

That was expected.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 28, 2015, 07:26:25 PM
I don't understand why he doesn't play for $500k a year.
You don't understand why someone wouldn't forgo over $20 million per year?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 28, 2015, 07:47:32 PM
You don't understand why someone wouldn't forgo over $20 million per year?
He'd get way way more in endorsements if he actually won a finals in Cleveland.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 28, 2015, 07:54:26 PM
He'd get way way more in endorsements if he actually won a finals in Cleveland.
You're saying he'd get another $20+ million in endorsements on top of the $40+ million he's currently pulling in, just by winning a championship in Cleveland?  ??? That's a pretty huge leap of faith. 
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on June 28, 2015, 07:59:01 PM
You're saying he'd get another $20+ million in endorsements on top of the $40+ million he's currently pulling in, just by winning a championship in Cleveland?  ??? That's a pretty huge leap of faith. 
I don't think it is. If his 20mil goes towards building the best team ever and he's their leader he will get far more in endorsements for the rest of his life...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: coralsnake on June 28, 2015, 08:02:38 PM
I don't think it is. If his 20mil goes towards building the best team ever and he's their leader he will get far more in endorsements for the rest of his life...
Aint happenin in CLE any time soon.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on June 28, 2015, 08:07:07 PM
I don't think it is. If his 20mil goes towards building the best team ever and he's their leader he will get far more in endorsements for the rest of his life...

He's signing these 1 year deals to make a boatload next contract. So he cares about the contract $. It could be because he doesn't think he'll make more using your strategy or a bit of his ego, but unless he signs the current 1-yr deal at <$20m, he cares about the contract $.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 28, 2015, 08:10:16 PM
I don't think it is. If his 20mil goes towards building the best team ever and he's their leader he will get far more in endorsements for the rest of his life...
That's purely conjecture which I personally find to be ludicrous. He's already the highest endorsed athlete in sports and will remain that way for a long time, barring another Decision level implosion of his likability. Its difficult to envision a Cleveland championship providing any sort of significant boost at all to his bottom line, let alone a hike of $20 million. Besides, he nearly won it all this year even with his $22 million salary. To say you don't understand why a person doesn't leave over $20 million on the table is Skip Bayless level LeBron nitpicking. Best player in the world should always get paid like it.       
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2015, 08:17:15 PM
Never understood why Dan Gilbert can't wink wink give him an endorsement job at his casino or mortgage business after he retires.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 28, 2015, 08:42:05 PM
Never understood why Dan Gilbert can't wink wink give him an endorsement job at his casino or mortgage business after he retires.
The risk far outweighs the reward.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on June 28, 2015, 09:12:35 PM
He is doing this to make more money but more importantly it gives him great leverage on team decisions.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Baruch on June 29, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
Never understood why Dan Gilbert can't wink wink give him an endorsement job at his casino or mortgage business after he retires.
Why would LeBron trust Gilbert? They don't like each other.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Shmelly on June 29, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Why would LeBron trust Gilbert? They don't like each other.
Real question is why would Gilbert risk the biggest punishment in sports history.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 04, 2015, 05:04:57 PM
He is doing this to make more money but more importantly it gives him great leverage on team decisions.
I think we have a winner.  :)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-lebron-wont-talk-to-cavaliers-until-they-settle-tristan-thompsons-deal/ar-AAcz2d0
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on July 04, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
I think we have a winner.  :)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-lebron-wont-talk-to-cavaliers-until-they-settle-tristan-thompsons-deal/ar-AAcz2d0
GM lebron. No two ways about it, this is his team
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on July 08, 2015, 10:16:14 PM
I don't understand. How could DeAndre Jordan go back to the clippers if he already "agreed" to go to the mavs???
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on July 08, 2015, 10:22:07 PM
I don't understand. How could DeAndre Jordan go back to the clippers if he already "agreed" to go to the mavs???
You can't actually sign any contracts till the moratorium ends, which is tomorrow. Even then, if he agreed to terms, he's still not actually bound until he signs the contract.

ETA: July Moratorium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#July_moratorium)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on July 09, 2015, 09:52:45 AM
You can't actually sign any contracts till the moratorium ends, which is tomorrow. Even then, if he agreed to terms, he's still not actually bound until he signs the contract.

ETA: July Moratorium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_salary_cap#July_moratorium)
who else is hoping aldridge gets cold feet and decides to have meeting with the knicks, realizing hell have a much better shot at getting a ring with carmelo, than with duncan, leonard, parker, green, manu, and pop?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on July 09, 2015, 09:54:36 AM
who else is hoping aldridge gets cold feet and decides to have meeting with the knicks, realizing hell have a much better shot at getting a ring with carmelo, than with duncan, leonard, parker, green, manu, and pop?
Lol, spurs are so going all the way.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Chapshnell on July 12, 2015, 12:32:47 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/nba-star-who-signed--120-million-contract-is-perfectly-content-riding-coach-200840498-nba.html
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on July 26, 2015, 12:22:10 AM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/jr-smith-proves-opting-out-with-cleveland-cavaliers-was-bad-call/ar-AAdi66Z
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 27, 2015, 08:36:28 PM
Bump!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on October 27, 2015, 08:40:37 PM
Bump!
Yawwwwn. Wake me up in 6 months.

If the last finals taught the Cavs anything they should start the bench and rest everyone else util the finals. C'mon they are in the East after all...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: ChaimMoskowitz on October 27, 2015, 08:44:50 PM
With the WS starting and the Cavs remind of the Cubs I thought a friendly bump was in order.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on October 29, 2015, 12:57:18 PM
With the WS starting and the Cavs remind of the Cubs I thought a friendly bump was in order.  :)
In baseball and in the Western Conference it takes a reg season to make the playoffs. In the East you can pencil in the Cavs (and prob one or two other teams like Bulls Hawks) into the second round before the season starts.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on November 23, 2015, 09:11:47 AM
How is there no 82-0 talk here yet? :)

They have something like a 75+% chance of breaking the 16-0 record.

Pretty impressive stuff, even if his mouth guard is the most annoying thing on earth. If they keep going their watch ratings will be through the roof.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on November 23, 2015, 09:28:25 AM
How is there no 82-0 talk here yet? :)

They have something like a 75+% chance of breaking the 16-0 record.

Pretty impressive stuff, even if his mouth guard is the most annoying thing on earth. If they keep going their watch ratings will be through the roof.
the record is 15-0
and i think most assume they have a better than 75% shot at beating the lakers at home
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: david23 on November 23, 2015, 09:28:37 AM
anyone have tickets to tonight's Knicks/ Heat game that want to donate???
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 08, 2015, 05:49:58 PM
Will tonight be the night they lose?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 08, 2015, 08:43:36 PM
Will tonight be the night they lose?
Not a chance. This is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: HowYaDoin on December 08, 2015, 11:29:55 PM
Not a chance. This is getting ridiculous.
At Celtics at bucks vs suns vs bucks  vs jazz..... will they make it until the Xmas showdown against ctown????
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 08, 2015, 11:36:30 PM
Which would be for a chance to tie the record at 33 (including last season)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 09, 2015, 12:34:38 AM
At Celtics at bucks vs suns vs bucks  vs jazz..... will they make it until the Xmas showdown against ctown????
Anyone have a link to stats on the ratings of these games? I'd assume viewership is through the roof.

If they make it until the cavs game I wouldn't be surprised if it gets finals type viewership.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: thaber on December 09, 2015, 05:26:35 AM
Anyone have a link to stats on the ratings of these games? I'd assume viewership is through the roof.

If they make it until the cavs game I wouldn't be surprised if it gets finals type viewership.
Yup.
http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/warriors-raptors-game-sets-new-all-time-multi-platform-ratings-record-csn-bay-area
http://www.csnbayarea.com/article/press-release-warriors-nuggets-game-sets-new-all-time-ratings-record-csn-bay-area
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 09, 2015, 08:11:15 AM
And almost all of their rotation players are signed through next year as well
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on December 09, 2015, 08:49:19 AM
It's pretty cool stuff. I wonder what a bet of them going 98-0 would pay off. Probably still one to millions in odds.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on December 09, 2015, 08:57:20 AM
It's pretty cool stuff. I wonder what a bet of them going 98-0 would pay off. Probably still one to millions in odds.
Where's CM when we need him....
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yoshyosh on December 09, 2015, 09:16:29 AM
It's pretty cool stuff. I wonder what a bet of them going 98-0 would pay off. Probably still one to millions in odds.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/betting/line-set-whether-warriors-will-break-nba-record-72-wins
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 12, 2015, 11:01:00 PM
...AND ITS OVER!!  :D
24-1
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: thaber on December 12, 2015, 11:19:59 PM
...AND ITS OVER!!  :D
24-1
and of all teams to lose to. they had an 88% chance of winning http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nba-picks/
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on December 12, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
and of all teams to lose to. they had an 88% chance of winning http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nba-picks/
They didn't lose to the bucks.
They lost to a Celtics/bucks dual team effort
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on December 12, 2015, 11:45:12 PM
...AND ITS OVER!!  :D
24-1
:-)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on December 12, 2015, 11:57:40 PM
They didn't lose to the bucks.
They lost to a Celtics/bucks dual team effort

They lost to the bucks.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: thaber on December 13, 2015, 12:07:06 AM
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They lost to the bucks.
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They didn't lose to the bucks.
They lost to a Celtics/bucks dual team effort
[/quote]
Moshe D makes  a good point, they posibly lost more to the Celtics than the Bucks
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 13, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Moshe D makes  a good point, they posibly lost more to the Celtics than the Bucks
Not really. You play the team in front of you, no more, no less. You want to argue that the if they played these 2 teams in the opposite order, the results would have been flipped? Enjoy your hypotheticals - in this reality they lost to the bucks.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: YOSEF on December 13, 2015, 12:13:12 PM
Crazy stat I saw last night...no team has ever got 7-0 or better on a road trip.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on December 13, 2015, 12:14:40 PM
::)
No one is saying they didn't lose to the bucks. And no one is putting an extra win in the Celtics record. But if you think Friday nights game had nothing to do with the loss last night, then you don't know basketball
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on December 13, 2015, 12:27:47 PM
::)
No one is saying they didn't lose to the bucks. And no one is putting an extra win in the Celtics record. But if you think Friday nights game had nothing to do with the loss last night, then you don't know basketball

Every game has some impact on every other game, and obviously the Warriors' and Bucks' Friday night game impacted their performance last night; the Warriors were tired and the Bucks were motivated after a poor showing. Also, obviously the Bucks had more to prove on their home court than the Warriors did (if you watched the game, their fan base was IMO more into the game than the other recent Warriors' subjects that I saw, IMO). But the Warriors were plain outplayed on both sides of the court. They also aren't going to be hitting 50% from the 3 pt line the entire season.  But once you start blaming victories and losses on external factors, ein ladavar sof.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 13, 2015, 12:30:31 PM
Crazy stat I saw last night...no team has ever got 7-0 or better on a road trip.
Not crazy at all. First of all, that particular stat is stupid and arbitrary. The exact stat is that no team has ever been unbeaten on a single road trip of 7 games or longer. However, in a given year, a team won't even necessarily have a single road trip of 7 games or longer. If you look at the warriors, for example, they've had one 7 game road trip every other year over the last 5-10 years. But maybe more importantly, it's not surprising because it's a lot of factors stacking against you. It's at least a little harder to win on the road overall. Add to that the fact that a road trip starts taking a toll the longer it goes. If every team had one such road trip every year, statistically speaking it would be pretty surprising if we didn't have an unbeaten 7 game road trip. But the sheer number of opportunities is much smaller than one might think.

Also, the Spurs won 8 in a row on a single road trip in '03 - the inaugural Rode Road Trip - but the lost the first game of the trip (it was a 9 game trip), so they're disqualified.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on December 13, 2015, 12:34:01 PM
::)
No one is saying they didn't lose to the bucks. And no one is putting an extra win in the Celtics record. But if you think Friday nights game had nothing to do with the loss last night, then you don't know basketball
And therefore what? There are a million factors that go into who wins a game: team health, matchups, refereeing, etc. etc. None of that goes on your record. What goes on your record is that you won or lost the team you played that night. If the NBA stupidly scheduled the Warriors 5 consecutive game on 5 consecutive nights and they lost the 5th one, would you say they lost to the first 4 teams?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: joe1234 on December 13, 2015, 12:39:52 PM
anyone know where i can stream live online for free?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on December 13, 2015, 12:42:51 PM
anyone know where i can stream live online for free?

atdhe.to (and many other extensions) is ok. I use Ballstreams, which costs me ~$60 for 2 seasons (you can pause an annual subscription during the offseason). Not sure if they're accepting new subscriptions, but the stream quality is consistantly excellent, often has home/away streams, works well on tables/phones, and, oh ya, has no ads.

There are rumors that they are about to get shut down
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on January 18, 2016, 08:46:30 PM
This years NBA finals will be between The Warriors and Spurs. Whoever wins gets the title...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on January 18, 2016, 08:52:25 PM
This years NBA finals will be between The Warriors and Spurs. Whoever wins gets the title...

What happens if GSW plays DET?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 22, 2016, 04:22:09 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: benjie1305 on January 22, 2016, 04:23:30 PM
Wow.

Yep.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on January 22, 2016, 04:24:54 PM
wow. Wonder who's gonna take over. Not a huge fan of Ty.

Edit: Damn, it is Ty
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on January 23, 2016, 11:17:45 AM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/nba/lebron-james-kevin-love-failure-against-top-teams-behind-david-blatts-cleveland-cavaliers-firing/news-story/42015e7d417338c8e14dc8685c2e7811?nk=02e11bcc443250c90cf77eeecf17a306-1453565539
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Amusch on April 04, 2016, 11:53:39 PM
I know this technically deserves its own thread, but that ending was sick. I don't know why I was watching but I'm happy I was.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 10, 2016, 09:15:58 PM
Well it looks like GS is really going to do it.

Assuming they do, it'll no doubt be a unanimous MVP and bot did he earn it.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on April 10, 2016, 10:02:24 PM
Well it looks like GS is really going to do it.

Assuming they do, it'll no doubt be a unanimous MVP and bot did he earn it.
I love GSW, but I don't know why SAS still scares me, especially in the playoffs...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 11, 2016, 02:28:28 PM
Anyone potentially interested in going to the GS game this Wednesday? If we get a few guys in I'd  consider going going.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on April 11, 2016, 02:29:30 PM
Anyone potentially interested in going to the GS game this Wednesday? If we get a few guys in I'd  consider going going.
Are you a GS fan?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 11, 2016, 02:30:56 PM
Are you a GS fan?

I'm a basketball fan. No allegiance to GS other than I hope the cavs beat them in the finals. But I'm a basketball fan.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 11, 2016, 02:31:33 PM
Anyone potentially interested in going to the GS game this Wednesday? If we get a few guys in I'd  consider going going.
I'd go if you find a good deal on tickets.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on April 11, 2016, 02:32:07 PM
I'm a basketball fan. No allegiance to GS other than I hope the cavs beat them in the finals. But I'm a basketball fan.
Are you going because of the record or just to see a game?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 11, 2016, 02:32:30 PM
I'd go if you find a good deal on tickets.

Do they have something like a centurion lounge? Tickets will be $500 for ok seats. Doubt they'll crash last minute.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 11, 2016, 02:33:15 PM
Are you going because of the record or just to see a game?

To see them likely break a record that very well may not be broken in my lifetime.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on April 11, 2016, 02:36:07 PM
To see them likely break a record that very well may not be broken in my lifetime.
I agree but it is not such a big deal. Maybe after they break the record we can start a thread who was the better team.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on April 11, 2016, 02:37:13 PM
I agree but it is not such a big deal. Maybe after they break the record we can start a thread who was the better team.  :)

the one with steve kerr
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on April 11, 2016, 02:42:59 PM
the one with steve kerr
LOL
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on April 11, 2016, 02:49:16 PM
I agree but it is not such a big deal. Maybe after they break the record we can start a thread who was the better team.  :)
How is it not a big deal?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on April 11, 2016, 03:03:19 PM
How is it not a big deal?
It is not like scoring 100 points in a game record.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on April 11, 2016, 03:04:25 PM
It is not like scoring 100 points in a game record.
Dude. That's been done already by wilt... 73 wins had NEVER been done!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 11, 2016, 03:04:45 PM
It is not like scoring 100 points in a game record.

But good luck planning to go to a game where that will happen
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on April 11, 2016, 03:08:26 PM
Dude. That's been done already by wilt...
I never knew that.  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 11, 2016, 04:21:40 PM
I'd go if you find a good deal on tickets.

What's considered a "good" deal? 300? 400?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on April 11, 2016, 10:04:39 PM
I'm a basketball fan. No allegiance to GS other than I hope the cavs beat them in the finals. But I'm a basketball fan.
Ah! Finally a man of my ideology!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 12, 2016, 12:20:11 PM
Anyone? Decent seats for $400
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on April 12, 2016, 10:50:19 PM
Anyone? Decent seats for $400
Out of my budget
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 12, 2016, 10:50:38 PM
Out of my budget

I'll sponsor a beer
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on April 12, 2016, 10:51:17 PM
I'll sponsor a beer
With a straw?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on April 12, 2016, 10:51:34 PM
With a straw?

BYOS
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on April 12, 2016, 10:54:16 PM
BYOS
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on April 14, 2016, 12:39:00 AM
Kobe with 43 and counting...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: yakrot on April 14, 2016, 12:43:11 AM
Kobe with 43 and counting...
Eh anyone can be a ball hog I was way more excited to see curry hit 400 3's
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on April 14, 2016, 12:53:03 AM
Eh anyone can be a ball hog I was way more excited to see curry hit 400 3's
I was even more excited to see most of the Cavs resting. That's been the Minhag for a while in every sport.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: casualchurner on April 14, 2016, 01:09:01 AM
60 points for Kobe....on about as many shots!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on April 14, 2016, 01:10:01 AM
60 pts and the W...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on April 14, 2016, 08:48:54 AM
Shame he didn't just take every shot from the beginning of the game, would of been cool to go for 100.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on April 14, 2016, 09:28:15 AM
Shame he didn't just take every shot from the beginning of the game, would of been cool to go for 100.
Dude. That's been done already by wilt...
:) ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 01, 2016, 06:34:24 PM
I'm coming from NY to the CLE game tomorrow night (round 2 game 1). Anyone wanna join me?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2016, 06:39:26 PM
I'm coming from NY to the CLE game tomorrow night (round 2 game 1). Anyone wanna join me?
Ordering Chef Daves delivered to the game?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 01, 2016, 06:48:40 PM
Ordering Chef Daves delivered to the game?

I wish. I'm assuming there is no restaurant night until next Sunday, right? A shame that'll be an away game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2016, 06:52:45 PM
I wish. I'm assuming there is no restaurant night until next Sunday, right? A shame that'll be an away game.
He delivers any time, you can arrange it through the cavs.
Or just go to Kantina and save yourself the hassle and expense.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 01, 2016, 06:53:34 PM
He delivers any time, you can arrange it through the cavs.

At what price? Can it work for last minute tickets?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 03, 2016, 12:40:07 PM
Wow! The refereeing in these playoffs has been terrible to say the least, and I'm not a okc or spurs fans.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2016, 10:45:03 PM
Heat-Raptors look pathetic. Only question is whether the Cavs lose 0 or perhaps 1 game before the Finals.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2016, 10:47:05 PM
Pathetic doesn't even fully describe this game.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: farmbochur on May 06, 2016, 05:44:37 AM


Only question is whether the Cavs lose 0 or perhaps 1 game before losing in the Finals.
FTFY
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 06, 2016, 07:49:45 AM
FTFY

Indeed.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 06, 2016, 12:04:59 PM
Honestly, the eastern conference playoffs have been pathetic.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 06, 2016, 12:55:38 PM
Honestly, the eastern conference playoffs have been pathetic.

Did you watch the last Cavs game???
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 06, 2016, 01:09:09 PM
Did you watch the last Cavs game???
I meant besides for Cleveland
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on May 06, 2016, 01:23:19 PM
Did you watch the last Cavs game???


a blowout doesn't make for fun basketball to watch
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 06, 2016, 01:24:32 PM

a blowout doesn't make for fun basketball to watch

That was the Cavs Hawks series last year. History does
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2016, 08:41:26 AM
Random fact: Cavs are now 12-0 when their big 3 start in a playoff game...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: mendy from lakewood on May 09, 2016, 10:07:59 AM
Random fact: Cavs are now 12-0 when their big 3 start in a playoff game...
interesting! Where did you pick up this random fact?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2016, 10:08:53 AM
interesting! Where did you pick up this random fact?
My brain.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 09, 2016, 11:12:18 AM
My brain.
happens to be those are the early playoff games against the bad teams
but, you do play who is on your schedule
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on May 09, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
Heat-Raptors look pathetic. Only question is whether the Cavs lose 0 or perhaps 1 game before the Finals.
If they lose 0 they will tie for the longest playoff winning streak (not combining seasons).
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on May 09, 2016, 01:34:11 PM
They will definitely be well rested (and untested) while the team coming out of the West will be beat up. Let's see if they can capitalize
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: MosheD on May 09, 2016, 01:58:31 PM
They will definitely be well rested (and untested) while the team coming out of the West will be beat up. Let's see if they can capitalize
Was thinking that too. Game 1 is a must-win
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 09, 2016, 02:24:34 PM
I'm sorry but they won't be making a billion 3 pointers whether against GSW or SAS. Their defenses are wayyy too good for that to happen
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on May 09, 2016, 02:38:58 PM
I'm sorry but they won't be making a billion 3 pointers whether against GSW or SAS. Their defenses are wayyy too good for that to happen
There are many ways to win a game and most of them don't include Frye getting 27 points.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 09, 2016, 02:40:30 PM
There are many ways to win a game and most of them don't include Frye getting 27 points.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2016, 02:41:35 PM
Once Delly takes Curry out it'll be a fair fight ;)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 09, 2016, 02:45:22 PM
Once Delly takes Curry out it'll be a fair fight ;)
Lol.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on May 09, 2016, 02:48:24 PM
Once Delly takes Curry out it'll be a fair fight ;)
Thanks for ruining the surprise, I thought SA and OKC still had a chance at making the finals...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: mendy from lakewood on May 10, 2016, 08:42:34 AM
Once Delly takes Curry out it'll be a fair fight ;)
i happen to be a big fan of delly but don't overdo it and say that he can take out curry!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 10, 2016, 09:01:59 AM
i happen to be a big fan of delly but don't overdo it and say that he can take out curry!
Not sure you understood what Dan meant by take out...
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 10, 2016, 09:10:28 AM
Not sure you understood what Dan meant by take out...
Lol
i happen to be a big fan of delly but don't overdo it and say that he can take out curry!
He meant he meant that he'll injure curry
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 12, 2016, 10:21:05 PM
What happened to the Spurs?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 12, 2016, 10:22:38 PM
What happened to the Spurs?
Arthritis?
Forgot their walkers?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 12, 2016, 10:30:44 PM
Arthritis?
Forgot their walkers?
Lol. Maybe it's contagious and we will get lucky if GSW catch it next round too :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 12, 2016, 10:32:33 PM
Lol. Maybe it's contagious and we will get lucky if GSW catch it next round too :)
GS is going to sweep either team.
OK, mayyyybe it'll go to 5.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: EJB on May 12, 2016, 10:44:02 PM
GS is going to sweep either team.
OK, mayyyybe it'll go to 5.

Interested in making a bet? I'll give you even odds on 5.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on May 13, 2016, 01:16:49 PM
Did Duncan just play his last game?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 13, 2016, 01:37:41 PM
GS is going to sweep either team.
OK, mayyyybe it'll go to 5.
True dat. I think Cleveland will cool down after a month break
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2016, 01:41:40 PM
True dat. I think Cleveland will cool down after a month break
That ought to go to 6 or 7 if they stay hot, though I wouldn't bet on CLE being victorious unless GSW suffers some injuries.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: chinagel on May 16, 2016, 10:59:50 PM
westbrook?!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2016, 11:19:57 PM
How do they miss a face slap like that on Durant?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2016, 11:24:23 PM
WTH Durant??
Pass the ball around!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 16, 2016, 11:24:33 PM
How do they miss a face slap like that on Durant?
#TerribleReferringThisPlayoffs
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2016, 11:25:15 PM
WTH Durant??
Pass the ball around!
Unreal!
How selfish and dumb can you get?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 16, 2016, 11:32:31 PM
So Cavs Thunder? Who would of thought.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on May 16, 2016, 11:33:10 PM
#TerribleReferringThisPlayoffs
+1
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 16, 2016, 11:33:11 PM
Travel!!!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2016, 11:33:47 PM
Travel!!!
#TerribleReferringThisPlayoffs
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Sport on May 16, 2016, 11:34:08 PM
So Cavs Thunder? Who would of thought.
Relax, its one game. Besides, cavs haven't won any yet
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2016, 11:37:52 PM
So Cavs Thunder? Who would of thought.
Here's hoping!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 16, 2016, 11:39:05 PM
GSW gotta stop relying so heavily on the threes
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 16, 2016, 11:40:55 PM
GSW gotta stop relying so heavily on the threes
That's what got them here. One off night won't change there game plan.

Here's hoping!
Amen.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: A3 on May 16, 2016, 11:41:53 PM
So Cavs Thunder? Who would of thought.

Lol...

You sound like a Bulls fan now everything they beat Lebron in game 1 only to lose the next 4.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 16, 2016, 11:42:25 PM
That's what got them here. One off night won't change there game plan.

But on plays that it's not needed and they're not hitting they have to accommodate
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2016, 09:14:05 AM
So how much do/did the refs have riding on the Thunder beating the SAS and GSW?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 17, 2016, 09:23:46 AM
So how much do/did the refs have riding on the Thunder beating the SAS and GSW?
I don't get why refs couldn't review the Westbrook play. It was in the last 2 minutes!
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: jj1000 on May 17, 2016, 09:37:12 AM
Lol...

You sound like a Bulls fan now everything they beat Lebron in game 1 only to lose the next 4.
This is a little different after they just beat up the Spurs, but yea obviously GSW are the still the favorite.

But on plays that it's not needed and they're not hitting they have to accommodate
If it keeps going like this I'm sure they will.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on May 17, 2016, 10:44:34 AM
This is a little different after they just beat up the Spurs, but yea obviously GSW are the still the favorite.
 If it keeps going like this I'm sure they will.
I'd hardly call that beating up the Spurs. They went 6 and the Spurs outscored them overall. Of the 4 wins, 2 were strong (14 point wins in games 4 and 5), and 2 were super tight, with officiating controversies at the end to boot. The way the Spurs played in the Game 6 made me think they'd have lost in 7 anyway, but I'd hardly call that beating up the Spurs.

Of course your point still stands - beating a Spurs team that wasn't really that far behind the Dubs changes the perspective on this WCF.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: sharkky on May 17, 2016, 11:03:51 AM
I don't get why refs couldn't review the Westbrook play. It was in the last 2 minutes!
even if they are allowed to use replay for that, traveling calls are not really part the modern NBA
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Yankee123 on May 17, 2016, 11:30:10 AM
even if they are allowed to use replay for that, traveling calls are not really part the modern NBA

Not part of the Modern NBA? huh?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: sharkky on May 17, 2016, 11:58:40 AM
Not part of the Modern NBA? huh?
do you really believe traveling violations are taken seriously in the NBA?  If so I have nothing more to tell you
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on May 17, 2016, 12:01:50 PM
do you really believe traveling violations are taken seriously in the NBA?  If so I have nothing more to tell you
The definition is just different now.  :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: sharkky on May 17, 2016, 12:05:29 PM
The definition is just different now.  :)
exactly    Has to be a flagrant 3 travel  ::)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 17, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
The nba is rigged! The nba wants okc vs CLE and wants okc to take revenge on LeBron for last time they lost to him in the finals(eventhough he was on Miami back then)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2016, 12:50:25 PM
wants okc vs CLE
👆 גם אני מצטרף להנ״ל
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: keemster26 on May 17, 2016, 12:56:36 PM
👆 גם אני מצטרף להנ״ל
Lol. What about the rest of my theory?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2016, 12:57:21 PM
Meh. GSW is a larger market and Curry/LeBron is a more compelling storyline.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on May 17, 2016, 12:58:05 PM
The nba is rigged! The nba wants okc vs CLE and wants okc to take revenge on LeBron for last time they lost to him in the finals(eventhough he was on Miami back then)
Of course it is rigged. A few years back he was the greatest player ever and now he is a nobody. Now it is Curry's turn. They are desperate to find the next MJ but that will never happen.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 19, 2016, 12:32:12 AM
Of course it is rigged. A few years back he was the greatest player ever and now he is a nobody. Now it is Curry's turn. They are desperate to find the next MJ but that will never happen.
You remind me of someone
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: SamKey on May 19, 2016, 12:32:32 AM
This series is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Barryg on May 19, 2016, 09:58:11 AM
This series is going to be interesting.
I guess you don't have to be more specific as to which series... Any predictions on who faces Cavs and who wins? if no future injuries for any of the big three teams
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2016, 10:01:10 AM
I guess you don't have to be more specific as to which series... Any predictions on who faces Cavs and who wins? if no future injuries for any of the big three teams
GSW in 6 in both series.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: JTZ on May 19, 2016, 10:04:42 AM
GSW in 6 in both series.
Isn't CLE a much better team than last year?
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2016, 10:05:28 AM
Isn't CLE a much better team than last year?
Yes, but so is GSW.
Of course if Curry isn't 100% that changes everything.
Either way, I already have award flights booked to SFO for game 7 :)
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: 12HRS on May 19, 2016, 10:07:12 AM
Wonder what those game tickets will go for
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2016, 10:08:25 AM
Wonder what those game tickets will go for
Probably a small fortune, but I don't mind sitting in the nosebleeds, and who knows if I'll ever have another chance to see CLE win a championship.
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: dealfinder85 on May 19, 2016, 10:10:11 AM
Probably a small fortune, but I don't mind sitting in the nosebleeds, and who knows if I'll ever have another chance to see CLE win a championship.
http://www.stubhub.com/golden-state-warriors-tickets-golden-state-warriors-oakland-oracle-arena-6-19-2016/event/9534064/?mbox=1&rS=6&sliderpos=true
$899 for the cheapest
Title: Re: NBA Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2016, 10:11:28 AM