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Title: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sky121 on May 07, 2013, 08:43:38 AM
http://www.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=22995&external=2131069.proteus.fma

This story is unbelievable.
I can't even imagine what they went through.

Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: bubkiz on May 07, 2013, 08:53:18 AM
http://www.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=22995&external=2131069.proteus.fma

This story is unbelievable.
I can't even imagine what they went through.
Check out this interview:
http://matzav.com/video-missing-girls-found-after-ten-years-in-cleveland
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 07, 2013, 08:57:42 AM
What I can't believe is how incompetent that 911 dispatcher is. She was very irresponsible and rude....
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sky121 on May 07, 2013, 08:59:32 AM
What I can't believe is how incompetent that 911 dispatcher is. She was very irresponsible and rude....

Where did you hear the call?
Link?
I saw the call written out -didn't seem rude specifically.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: hocker on May 07, 2013, 09:01:13 AM
Where did you hear the call?
Link?
I saw the call written out -didn't seem rude specifically.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/audio-missing-ohio-woman-amanda-berrys-frantic-911-call-to-police-8605656.html
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: ChAiM'l on May 07, 2013, 09:04:40 AM
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Moshe123 on May 07, 2013, 09:31:22 AM
This story is just unbelievable.

For such scum, I approve of skinning alive, cutting off limb by limb over a long period of time.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sky121 on May 07, 2013, 09:49:40 AM
It seems from just what I've heard so far they weren't treated as bad as some stories you hear.

But yes, I agree.


Many times with stories like this you hear that after the victims actually miss their abductors.
10 years is a long time.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: YankyDoodle on May 07, 2013, 09:51:47 AM


Best interview ever!!

I give it 30 minutes until there's a music video parody.


Also check out his 911 call:
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Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: cozmohoot on May 07, 2013, 09:56:11 AM


Best interview ever!!

I give it 30 minutes until there's a music video parody.
I don't know if I should be laughing but that guy is funny at the end.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: churnbabychurn on May 07, 2013, 09:59:19 AM


Best interview ever!!

I give it 30 minutes until there's a music video parody.


Also check out his 911 call:
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+10
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sky121 on May 07, 2013, 10:03:28 AM
That is funny. It's true.

Can you imagine if he would have just ignored her or whatever and the guy would have returned home and they would have still been sitting there for who knows how long.

Apparently Some reports are saying that there were complaints made about strange happenings at the house and police didn't do anything.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: YSP on May 07, 2013, 11:11:02 AM
well, if he's looking for a shidduch...

&feature=player_detailpage
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: SavingsBigtime on May 07, 2013, 04:01:24 PM
What a match!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Shreknit on May 07, 2013, 04:06:09 PM
The crazy thing is the kidnappers son anthony castro was a local journalist who interviewed dejesus's mother I'm 2004!!

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/cleveland-kidnappings-anthony-castro-interviewed-gina-dejesus-mother-article-1.1337284?localLinksEnabled=false
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on May 07, 2013, 04:12:11 PM
well, if he's looking for a shidduch...


i remember seeing a spoof video made out of this one (posted on the forums i think?)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on May 07, 2013, 04:22:03 PM
Anyone see last night's Hawaii 5-0?

CRAZY!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on May 07, 2013, 04:25:00 PM
Absolutely stomach-churning

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/05/07/missing-women-cleveland-brothers-arrested/2140359/
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Drago on May 07, 2013, 04:29:50 PM
Many times with stories like this you hear that after the victims actually miss their abductors.
Called Stockholm sydrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on May 07, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
Called Stockholm sydrome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Similar to BWS
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on May 07, 2013, 04:51:53 PM
I don't know if I should be laughing but that guy is funny at the end.
Thats called "keeping it real in the hood".
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Moshe123 on May 07, 2013, 07:17:15 PM
The details. Just wow.

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2140359
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Aaaron on May 07, 2013, 08:51:43 PM
Anyone see last night's Hawaii 5-0?

CRAZY!

I thought the same thing!  And it was a moving episode too, IMO.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: smee123 on May 07, 2013, 09:25:51 PM
What a match!
Naa.. she's too frum for him  ;D
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: chaimmayer on May 07, 2013, 11:08:18 PM
So nu, how far away is this from dan's place?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on May 08, 2013, 04:02:56 AM
I thought the same thing!  And it was a moving episode too, IMO.
Even weirder, the kidnapped girl's name on the show was also Amanda
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 08, 2013, 04:16:12 AM
So nu, how far away is this from dan's place?
Half an hour by car...would not be caught dead there.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 08, 2013, 04:18:16 AM
Castration should really be an option for these people.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on May 08, 2013, 04:35:47 AM
Castration should really be an option for these people.
They should handcuff them to a pole, and allow anyone in america to come visit and serve their own justice
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: smee123 on May 08, 2013, 06:53:57 AM
They should handcuff them to a pole, and allow anyone in america to come visit and serve their own justice
That's what prison is for  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on May 08, 2013, 11:08:51 AM
Animals, just scum.

Quote
In the years after his friend's daughter vanished while walking home from school, Ariel Castro handed out fliers with the 14-year-old's photo and performed music at a fundraiser held in her honor.

When neighbors gathered for a candlelight vigil just a year ago to remember the girl, Castro was there too, comforting the girl's mother.


Read more: http://www.myfoxla.com/story/22193995/suspect-in-ohio-helped-neighbors-look-for-missing-girls#ixzz2SiKdYUPk
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: judahk88 on May 08, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Anyone see last night's Hawaii 5-0?

CRAZY!
+1
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on May 08, 2013, 10:31:55 PM


Best interview ever!!

I give it 30 minutes until there's a music video parody.
Done
 
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Shreknit on May 08, 2013, 10:35:14 PM
Done
 


I called it as soon as I saw it. Schmoyo are great! Climbing in your window is the best ever IMO.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 08, 2013, 11:15:40 PM
I called it as soon as I saw it. Schmoyo are great! Climbing in your window is the best ever IMO.
+1

Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 08, 2013, 11:21:44 PM
Castration should really be an option for these people.
They do that in Bolivia. That would be nice.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2013, 02:04:47 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/05/charles-ramsey-on-rescuing-amanda-berry-you-do-what-you-have-to-do/

This hero cracks me up.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on May 09, 2013, 02:09:38 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/05/charles-ramsey-on-rescuing-amanda-berry-you-do-what-you-have-to-do/

This hero cracks me up.
At the beginning of the interview he held up a can of Red Bull. This guy was wired but 100% real as they come.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on May 09, 2013, 02:15:45 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/05/charles-ramsey-on-rescuing-amanda-berry-you-do-what-you-have-to-do/

This hero cracks me up.
This guy is a media goldmine! I hope he's getting paid :)) His presence and demeanor is amazing!

Media guy went to Orange-  ::)...
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on May 09, 2013, 02:19:51 AM
McDonalds should use this guy for some kind of PSA.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sawlw on May 09, 2013, 07:44:28 AM
Done
 

Crazy 2.4 million hits
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/studentnews/ohio-castro-daughter/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: ganizzy on May 09, 2013, 01:28:59 PM
she is on prison for trying to kill her baby - who survuved.

castro has done some serious abuse to his wife and kids. he broke her nose, dislocated her shoulders, beat her after surgery, locked her up...


but interestingly enough, our hero Ramsey who knows to "help a damsel in distress" himself has served time for domestic violence and is divorced bec of it
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 09, 2013, 01:34:44 PM
but interestingly enough, our hero Ramsey who knows to "help a damsel in distress" himself has served time for domestic violence and is divorced bec of it
True, but it was a decade ago and he did his time and has no rap sheet since then.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on May 09, 2013, 01:51:08 PM
It seems from just what I've heard so far they weren't treated as bad as some stories you hear.

But yes, I agree.


Many times with stories like this you hear that after the victims actually miss their abductors.
10 years is a long time.

It's called survival. In order for a human to not get raped everyday for 10 years, they can turn the rapist in their mind into a good person. Nebach!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sky121 on May 09, 2013, 01:52:41 PM
It's called survival. In order for a human to not get raped everyday for 10 years, they can turn the rapist in their mind into a good person. Nebach!

Its also brainwashed to a certain extent.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 09, 2013, 01:58:03 PM
Its also brainwashed to a certain extent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on May 09, 2013, 02:00:52 PM
" One commonly used hypothesis to explain the effect of Stockholm syndrome is based on Freudian theory. It suggests that the bonding is the individualís response to trauma in becoming a victim. Identifying with the aggressor is one way that the ego defends itself. When a victim believes the same values as the aggressor, they no longer become a threat"

Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on May 09, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Patricia Campbell Hearst
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on May 09, 2013, 03:38:11 PM
Crazy 2.4 million hits
All his videos grow that fast.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on May 09, 2013, 03:57:17 PM
well, if he's looking for a shidduch...

&feature=player_detailpage
Found it
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Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Shreknit on May 09, 2013, 04:02:24 PM
That's a shidduch from shamayim!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Nitantnel on May 09, 2013, 11:46:32 PM
I wonder if the 911 Reps, or for that matter the police department, are more competent than Chase, Aemx, Citi.... Etc. My feeling is that they are not.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on May 10, 2013, 12:15:17 AM
I wonder if the 911 Reps, or for that matter the police department, are more competent than Chase, Aemx, Citi.... Etc. My feeling is that they are not.
Did you hear how the 911 rep was scolding her to talk to the cops when they arrive. Crazy! Unless maybe he thought it was a prank. In later released audio, you can hear the cops inside, and the women crying, and the cop says, "it looks like this is for real".
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: alpicone on May 10, 2013, 12:23:57 AM
This guy is nuts. Can't stop laughing from watching his videos.

"Dead Giveaway"
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 10, 2013, 03:31:51 AM
but interestingly enough, our hero Ramsey who knows to "help a damsel in distress" himself has served time for domestic violence and is divorced bec of it
"Here is a lesson to everyone: If you have something to hide that you donít want aired out publicly NEVER HELP ANYONE.
Thanks Smoking Gun for teaching us that lesson.Ē /sarcasm"
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on May 23, 2013, 01:26:29 PM
Finally

Charles Ramsey Free Burgers for Life (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/05/23/ohio-kidnap-ramsey/2354031/)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: dd321 on May 23, 2013, 01:48:03 PM
any1 familiar with this story?


http://www.jta.org/2013/05/06/news-opinion/united-states/one-month-after-murder-of-aliza-sherman-cleveland-jews-clamoring-for-answers
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on May 23, 2013, 01:56:54 PM
any1 familiar with this story?


http://www.jta.org/2013/05/06/news-opinion/united-states/one-month-after-murder-of-aliza-sherman-cleveland-jews-clamoring-for-answers
been the talk of Cleveland for a while.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: dd321 on May 23, 2013, 02:15:35 PM
been the talk of Cleveland for a while.
what are the rumors
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on May 23, 2013, 02:24:07 PM
Extremely bitter divorce case...
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on May 23, 2013, 02:46:33 PM
Finally

Charles Ramsey Free Burgers for Life (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2013/05/23/ohio-kidnap-ramsey/2354031/)
How dumb of McDonald's. They should have given him free burgers for life. Great PR. Someone's asleep at the wheel @Mcdonald's. Sell your shares!! ;D
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on May 23, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-tweet-to-charles-ramsey-2013-5
copycatters!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on May 23, 2013, 03:48:43 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-tweet-to-charles-ramsey-2013-5
copycatters!
Bad ones at that, would it have run McDonald's bankrupt if they would do it for life like the locals?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on May 23, 2013, 04:50:52 PM
what are the rumors
Anywhere from, her husband or son hired someone to kill her, to they did it themselves (many stabs=crime of passion), or she was hiding money in the Caribbean and they finished her making it look like a crime of passion and now they pocket her hidden money.

The usual  ::)

(At her funeral the son finished his speach saying his dad didn't Fu$!ing kill her many times until police got up and he walked down)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on June 12, 2013, 07:39:22 AM
http://reuters.com/article/idUSBRE95B08V20130612?irpc=932
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Name Changed on June 12, 2013, 07:45:09 AM
A committee will consider seeking the death penalty after a complete indictment is issued, prosecutors said. Ohio is one of 38 states that have fetal homicide laws, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: SamKey on June 12, 2013, 10:56:36 AM
m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22876663 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22876663)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Steven on June 12, 2013, 12:23:28 PM
m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22876663 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22876663)
Curious why he thinks he's not guilty. .
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: raphy781 on June 12, 2013, 01:03:50 PM
Curious why he thinks he's not guilty. .
Probably for the same reason he thought it was ok to kidnap them and lock them up....
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: lfas25 on June 12, 2013, 01:38:23 PM
Curious why he thinks he's not guilty. .

Why does anyone that is guilty plead not guilty?? Weather its a speeding ticket, or actual murder..
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on July 09, 2013, 11:16:22 AM


please embed
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on July 09, 2013, 11:22:29 AM
#Invalid YouTube Link#
Thanks  ::)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: kracked dude on July 09, 2013, 11:34:30 AM
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please embed
Here you go

Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Nitantnel on July 09, 2013, 11:52:24 AM
Wow, the third one looks severely emotionally damaged.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on July 09, 2013, 12:32:08 PM
Wow, the third one looks severely emotionally damaged.
Wonder if she started out that way.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Nitantnel on July 09, 2013, 12:37:14 PM
Wonder if she started out that way.
Why would you think so?

I'd venture to say that they are all seriously damaged, and for life; although it can probably be remedied a bit. The third one just really looks bad.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on July 09, 2013, 12:44:49 PM
Why would you think so?

I'd venture to say that they are all seriously damaged, and for life; although it can probably be remedied a bit. The third one just really looks bad.
I say so because it's likely that the sicko would have preyed on a mentally disabled girl.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: zek on July 09, 2013, 12:46:17 PM
Wow, the third one looks severely emotionally damaged.
How exactly does one "look" emotionally damaged?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Nitantnel on July 09, 2013, 01:00:28 PM
I say so because it's likely that the sicko would have preyed on a mentally disabled girl.
I doubt it. All he needed to do was to find a quiet place to lure them into his car. He didn't develop a relationship with them prior to the kidnapping.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: deals on July 09, 2013, 01:32:12 PM
Wow, the third one looks severely emotionally damaged.

big time
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: lfas25 on July 09, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Wow, the third one looks severely emotionally damaged.

I don't know if its true but I heard that her skull was fractured in several places and she was beat up pretty bad.
If that is true I'd assume that is why she looks and sounds like that.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on July 14, 2013, 04:42:26 PM
Wow, the third one looks severely emotionally damaged.
It may be physical damage, (she was beaten and forced to miscarry many times), which makes her face and way of talking look strange. The content of her words make her look the least emotionally damaged.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on July 26, 2013, 12:31:12 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ariel-castro-agrees-to-plea-deal-20130726,0,4122633.story

There's no (lawful) punishment harsh enough for this animal.

Aside: its interesting that OH allows the death penalty for forcing  a miscarriage.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 26, 2013, 01:59:40 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ariel-castro-agrees-to-plea-deal-20130726,0,4122633.story

There's no (lawful) punishment harsh enough for this animal.

Aside: its interesting that OH allows the death penalty for forcing  a miscarriage.
Well he will probably get worse than that in jail.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Nitantnel on July 26, 2013, 02:05:50 PM
Well he will probably get worse than that in jail.

Why, they usually put these guys in private quarters?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 26, 2013, 02:08:35 PM
Why, they usually put these guys in private quarters?
He's not a pycho and not a mass murderer. Why would he be in solitary?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 26, 2013, 02:10:39 PM
He's not a pycho and not a mass murderer. Why would he be in solitary?
To protect him?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 26, 2013, 02:15:32 PM
To protect him?
Could be. Too bad if it is true.

I don't know anything about the prison system BH.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Nitantnel on July 26, 2013, 05:46:29 PM
To protect him?

Yes, it's classic SOP of this sort, AFAIK
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: hocker on July 27, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
Could be. Too bad if it is true.
While no punishment would be enough for this animal, solitary confinement ("the box" in prison lingo) is very fitting for him. You can literally go out of your mind from it.
I don't know anything about the prison system BH.
I do BH. I used to visit inmates often.

Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 27, 2013, 10:54:54 PM
In other news he got 1,000 years in jail.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on July 28, 2013, 03:27:17 AM
In other news he got 1,000 years in jail.
And George Zimmerman goes free? Wow, our system is messed up
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 28, 2013, 06:47:02 AM
And George Zimmerman goes free? Wow, our system is messed up
  Um I don't see a connection, but as long as you do, ya really messed up :P
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on July 28, 2013, 08:03:18 AM
  Um I don't see a connection, but as long as you do, ya really messed up :P
2 Hispanics charged with murder. One goes free, and the other sits in jail. The only difference is one killed a white baby, and the other killed a black teenager. How is that justice? ::)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 28, 2013, 08:06:21 AM
2 Hispanics charged with murder. One goes free, and the other sits in jail. The only difference is one killed a white baby, and the other killed a black teenager. How is that justice? ::)
Take it to the Zimmerman thread. For all you know Trayvon attacked George...
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 08:41:36 AM
Umm the difference is quite clear... 1 pled guilty and the other didn't and there was not enough evidence to find him guilty. There would be something REALLY messed up with our justice system if we would convict someone of murder without evidence...
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on July 28, 2013, 10:02:49 AM
And George Zimmerman goes free? Wow, our system is messed up
Maybe it just needs to be tweaked a liitle.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 10:57:00 AM
Don't you think what this guy did is way worse than Zim?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on July 28, 2013, 11:02:34 AM
Don't you think what this guy did is way worse than Zim?
I sure hope that was a rhetorical question.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on July 28, 2013, 11:08:44 AM
And George Zimmerman goes free? Wow, our system is messed up
Why did this comment almost make me puke?

If TIME Magazine had a monster of the year award, the Cleveland Kidnapper would win.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on July 28, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Why did this comment almost make me puke?
You had sliders (White Castle's) last night?  :)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 11:15:27 AM
I sure hope that was a rhetorical question.
That was more like a "am I the crazy one here?" Question.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: elikay on July 28, 2013, 11:17:28 AM
Why did this comment almost make me puke?

If TIME Magazine had a monster of the year award, the Cleveland Kidnapper would win.
::)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on July 28, 2013, 11:17:45 AM
I am not going to speak for anyone here. I did not take any of the comments that the two crimes were on the same level.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on July 28, 2013, 11:39:43 AM
2 Hispanics charged with murder. One goes free, and the other sits in jail. The only difference is one killed a white baby, and the other killed a black teenager. How is that justice? ::)
Is anyone else not sensing the sarcasm (as Chaikel generously indicated with the italicized only and the  ::) )?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on July 28, 2013, 11:53:49 AM
Why did this comment almost make me puke?

If TIME Magazine had a monster of the year award, the Cleveland Kidnapper would win.
Really? If Hitler, Stalin, and Ayatollah Khomeini won TIME's Person Of The Year, are you saying he is worse than them?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Ergel on July 28, 2013, 12:07:09 PM
Really? If Hitler, Stalin, and Ayatollah Khomeini won TIME's Person Of The Year, are you saying he is worse than them?
Time person of the year is just significance, not a judgment of character. This guy had no historical significance. However, he is likely the monster of the year
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on July 29, 2013, 01:02:49 AM
Really? If Hitler, Stalin, and Ayatollah Khomeini won TIME's Person Of The Year, are you saying he is worse than them?
What??
How in the world did you read in my comment that he's worse than Hitler?!
I said he would be this years Monster of the year, if they gave out such an award.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on July 29, 2013, 01:06:02 AM
Is anyone else not sensing the sarcasm (as Chaikel generously indicated with the italicized only and the  ::) )?
This is Chaikel's 1st comment on the subject
And George Zimmerman goes free? Wow, our system is messed up
no  ::) or anything to indicate sarcasm.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on July 29, 2013, 01:06:46 AM
 
::)
:'(
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 29, 2013, 11:30:57 AM
I sure hope that was a rhetorical question.
Well if someone believes zim is 100% guilty than, let the arguments begin.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: CountValentine on July 29, 2013, 11:33:24 AM
Well if someone believes zim is 100% guilty than, let the arguments begin.
Can always count on someone to throw fuel on the fire.  :P
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on July 29, 2013, 11:38:08 AM
Can always count on someone to throw fuel on the fire.  :P
I try :)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on August 07, 2013, 12:14:14 PM
Castro House of Horrors Destroyed (video) (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/07/ariel-castro-cleveland-house-abduction/2626855/)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
how are they legally able to destroy it?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2013, 12:38:05 PM
how are they legally able to destroy it?
He gave it to the city in the plea deal.
As others noted they should've just jailed him in its basement as he did to the girls :P
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: 12HRS on August 07, 2013, 12:51:13 PM
He gave it to the city in the plea deal.
As others noted they should've just jailed him in its basement as he did to the girls :P

Being jailed in a real jail will get done to him exactly what he did to the girls.

V'hamaivin Yavin
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 02:01:05 PM
Being jailed in a real jail will get done to him exactly what he did to the girls.

V'hamaivin Yavin
hes in solitary
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: 12HRS on August 07, 2013, 02:29:11 PM
hes in solitary

That defeats the purpose :(
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Jkhein on August 07, 2013, 04:01:05 PM
He gave it to the city in the plea deal.
As others noted they should've just jailed him in its basement as he did to the girls :P
you mean right before destroying it, right?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2013, 04:09:26 PM
you mean right before destroying it, right?
Eh, maybe they could have had visitation days from the local prison while he's handcuffed in the basement drinking out of doggy bowls.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: raphy781 on September 04, 2013, 12:44:28 AM
He was just found dead in his cell!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: aryeh1 on September 04, 2013, 12:45:24 AM
He was just found dead in his cell!

Nu uh?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: kracked dude on September 04, 2013, 12:45:52 AM
Castro dead!  Committed Suicide!
http://www.vosizneias.com/140601/2013/09/04/ohio-man-who-held-3-women-captive-for-a-decade-committed-suicide/ (http://www.vosizneias.com/140601/2013/09/04/ohio-man-who-held-3-women-captive-for-a-decade-committed-suicide/)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Dan on September 04, 2013, 12:46:46 AM
He was just found dead in his cell!
Well, that'll save my tax dollars from going to feed him at least.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: aryeh1 on September 04, 2013, 12:51:14 AM
Good timing erev rosh hashana, 
He didn't deserve to Live another year
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: raphy781 on September 04, 2013, 12:53:35 AM
Good timing erev rosh hashana, 
He didn't deserve to Live another year
Apparently he felt the same way;)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: kracked dude on September 04, 2013, 12:54:25 AM
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/09/04/Pickaway_Castro_Death.html (http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2013/09/04/Pickaway_Castro_Death.html)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Yeki89 on September 04, 2013, 08:07:29 AM
I rather a trial... this way it would have been a lesson for other sadists.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Achas Veachas on September 04, 2013, 08:10:42 AM
Sorry these guys are sick. No trial would be a deterrent enough for others like him. Seems like a great outcome for this story.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on September 04, 2013, 11:10:55 AM
+1

Seems he and the rest of the world found some common ground.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: DovtheBear on September 04, 2013, 12:54:20 PM
Saving some taxpayer dollars.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on September 08, 2013, 02:30:25 AM
In a certain way, it's as if he's telling his victims - I didn't get punished for what I did.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: raphy781 on September 08, 2013, 03:00:18 AM
In a certain way, it's as if he's telling his victims - I didn't get punished for what I did.
:o:o:o
He's dead. The cause of his committing suicide was the fact that he was jailed for the atrocities he committed (I think). In essence he's dead because of what he did.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: dd321 on November 06, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
any1 have full episodes of Dr. Phil interview with 1st girl?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: MnM1130 on November 06, 2013, 07:59:29 PM
i watched it and it was pretty awful to watch.. crazy pple in this world!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: dd321 on November 06, 2013, 08:05:25 PM

i watched it and it was pretty awful to watch.. crazy pple in this world!
+1 saw some clips . Terrible..
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on November 06, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
Wow I'm late to the show, just saw that he killed himself. Crazy.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sky121 on November 06, 2013, 08:20:43 PM
Wow I'm late to the show, just saw that he killed himself. Crazy.

I read multiple reports that they think he may have accidentally killed himself while choking himself for sexual thrill.

Either way.... Good riddance.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: jj1000 on November 06, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
I read multiple reports that they think he may have accidentally killed himself while choking himself for sexual thrill.

Either way.... Good riddance.
That would be true poetic justice. He deserves worse, but I guess death is a close second.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: HP58 on November 07, 2013, 03:06:13 AM
That would be true poetic justice. He deserves worse, but I guess death is a close second.
Nope. Not close. I would have him tortured to within an inch of his life every day for the rest of his life...
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: kracked dude on November 07, 2013, 10:50:40 PM
Part 2 of Michelle Knight interview on Dr Phil. If anybody can find Part 1 please post

ETA: viewer discretion is advised
Title: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: dd321 on November 07, 2013, 10:59:17 PM
Part 2 of Michelle Knight interview on Dr Phil. If anybody can find Part 1 please post

look at YouTube channel you uploaded from, has part 1 too, he must've uploaded it later
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: kracked dude on November 07, 2013, 11:13:15 PM
look at YouTube channel you uploaded from, has part 1 too, he must've uploaded it later
Thanks!
#hardtowatch
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Moshe123 on November 08, 2013, 12:24:35 AM
I would like to see a live video from his hell chamber.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on November 08, 2013, 02:32:53 AM
I would like to see a live video from his hell chamber.
I find that disturbing
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Ergel on November 08, 2013, 03:10:51 AM
I find that disturbing
+1
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Post by: Moishebatchy on November 08, 2013, 03:38:40 AM
I find that disturbing

+1
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: mclovin on November 08, 2013, 04:02:18 AM
I would like to see a live video from his hell chamber.
do u mean a video of him in hell?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Moshe123 on November 08, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
do u mean a video of him in hell?

OF COURSE!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on November 08, 2013, 11:20:03 AM
Part 2 of Michelle Knight interview on Dr Phil. If anybody can find Part 1 please post

ETA: viewer discretion is advised
@35:15 What happened to Charles Ramsey?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: dd321 on November 08, 2013, 11:42:55 AM

@35:15 What happened to Charles Ramsey?
+1 he made the whole thing up! Wow!
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on November 08, 2013, 02:13:41 PM
I find that disturbing
He means his present Hell after death.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Moshe123 on November 09, 2013, 07:28:47 PM
He means his present Hell after death.

+1
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Ergel on November 09, 2013, 08:15:24 PM
He means his present Hell after death.


I find that disturbing
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on November 09, 2013, 08:30:41 PM

But not as disturbing as the Hell chamber in his basement.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Chaikel on November 10, 2013, 02:06:01 AM
OF COURSE!
Phew
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Moshe123 on November 21, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
Wow. Another story.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/world/europe/uk-captivity-arrests/index.html
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on November 21, 2013, 11:27:13 AM
Wow. Another story.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/world/europe/uk-captivity-arrests/index.html
Wow. 30 years??
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Post by: Dan on November 21, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
Makes you wonder how many of these people are out there whose story is yet to be told.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on November 21, 2013, 12:09:20 PM
Makes you wonder how many of these people are out there whose story is yet to be told.
+1
I would never mistreat my captives like that.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on November 28, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
New story.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-sisters-constant-surveillance-home-police-chief/story?id=21041524
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: kracked dude on December 22, 2013, 07:11:42 PM
Charles Ramsey signs book deal
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/12/charles_ramsey_neighbor_who_he.html (http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/12/charles_ramsey_neighbor_who_he.html)
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: chaimmayer on December 22, 2013, 07:40:01 PM
The book, which does not yet have a title, will be published in spring 2014.
can I propose "dead giveaway"
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on December 23, 2013, 02:31:08 PM
Can't wait to read it.  I love fiction.
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: chaimmayer on December 23, 2013, 10:35:22 PM
Can't wait to read it.  I love fiction.
didnt watch most of the dr. Phil episode but in their version of the story he want involved, right?
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: dd321 on December 24, 2013, 11:30:55 AM

didnt watch most of the dr. Phil episode but in their version of the story he want involved, right?
+1
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: good sam on May 05, 2014, 12:17:49 PM
This girl's not right.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/michelle-knight-ohio-kidnapping-victim-says-she-forgives-captor/
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: sky121 on May 05, 2014, 12:21:50 PM
Whatever she needs to move on and be her best healthy self....
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: churnbabychurn on May 05, 2014, 03:51:51 PM
She has this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
Title: Re: 3 girls found after 10 years
Post by: Baruch on May 05, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
There are certain forms of psychological therapy, where the biggest part of healing is forgiving. I believe that is what's going on here.