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Title: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on May 15, 2013, 05:32:40 PM
Anyone has ant experience getting a parking ticket on a rental car in Israel? does the rental agency go after your cc?
As per my experience with Avis 9 out of 10 times they don't.

please post your experiences...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Deal Guy on May 20, 2013, 01:22:07 AM
That's a lot of times!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: wierdal832 on May 20, 2013, 01:25:18 AM
throw out the tickets
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: ShmuliT on May 20, 2013, 02:29:26 AM
I haven't payed mine from 4 years ago.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on May 20, 2013, 02:35:11 AM
Tickets in israel are not due till 3 months from when u get them .
Once the due date passes and they realize it has not bin paid they start reviewing info on the car tom contact the owner which in this case is the rental agency ...
It safe to say that before 6 months they rental company does not know received a violation ...
Therefore to be sage cancel your cards every 6 months son they can not charge your card ..., if it comes down to it

And thanks for listening
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: birne on May 20, 2013, 05:12:56 AM
Tickets in israel are not due till 3 months from when u get them .
Once the due date passes and they realize it has not bin paid they start reviewing info on the car tom contact the owner which in this case is the rental agency ...
It safe to say that before 6 months they rental company does not know received a violation ...
Therefore to be sage cancel your cards every 6 months son they can not charge your card ..., if it comes down to it

And thanks for listening

+1
Another reason to churn cards!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: mena613 on May 20, 2013, 05:40:36 AM

I believe it depends who you get the fine from, theres a difference between the state police and parking tickets which are
from the iriya,,,
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: rots5 on May 20, 2013, 05:41:47 AM
I got a 100₪ ticket last week on a Choshen car
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: SamKey on May 20, 2013, 05:55:27 AM
I got a 100₪ ticket last week on a Choshen car
Choshen?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on May 20, 2013, 06:23:55 AM
I got a 100₪ ticket last week on a Choshen car
we voted for u don't worry!!  ;D Bin what are you talking abt?  :'(
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Twin on May 20, 2013, 06:32:58 AM
I just cancel the card just to be on the safe side
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Drago on May 20, 2013, 06:36:37 AM
Or just pay the ticket if you truly deserved it.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on May 20, 2013, 06:40:26 AM
Or just pay the ticket if you truly deserved it.
no one ever deserved a ticket in israel the Tziyomim are just out to get us! Lol
Most of the tickets we are referring are not meter tickets but side walk were there is no parking on private streets .. For no reason and although the law ...
 
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Twin on May 20, 2013, 06:40:55 AM
Or just pay the ticket if you truly deserved it.
Who likes giving the Medinah money???
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Drago on May 20, 2013, 06:51:19 AM
Who likes giving the Medinah money???
you should see my taxes...
besides, i like to think that part of it goes to pay for yungeleit, and that's mekayaim my tzedaka
:)
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Twin on May 20, 2013, 06:52:57 AM
you should see my taxes...
besides, i like to think that part of it goes to pay for yungeleit, and that's mekayaim my tzedaka
:)
At least here you get to comfort yourself with such thoughts while in america you just think wtf why does the government get to take my money
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on May 20, 2013, 07:06:29 AM
you should see my taxes...
besides, i like to think that part of it goes to pay for yungeleit, and that's mekayaim my tzedaka
:)
צדקה is something we are all מחיוב . However it's still voluntary , something that u are obligated to pay for example taxes for guarding the city in those days was
Not incl .
Although u may receive letters of harassment in the mail , and it doesn't seem any different then the taxes and water bills
It's different     
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on May 20, 2013, 07:07:42 AM
צדקה is something we are all מחיוב . However it's still voluntary , something that u are obligated to pay for example taxes for guarding the city in those days was
Not incl .
Although u may receive letters of harassment in the mail , and it doesn't seem any different then the taxes and water bills
It's different     
Although u may receive letters of harassment from צדקה in the mail , and it doesn't seem any different then the taxes and water bills
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Drago on May 20, 2013, 07:09:44 AM
At least here you get to comfort yourself with such thoughts while in america you just think wtf why does the government get to take my money
On a serious note, I recall learning some of the sugya about tzedaka a few yrs back, and there was a shita that said  that you can estimate how much of your taxes go towards welfare, and offset your tzedaka with it. (But I could be completely off base)
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: rots5 on May 20, 2013, 07:15:30 AM
choshen is a renal company. i dont mind not paying it but i hope choshen doesnt have to pay it then....
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on May 20, 2013, 11:37:01 AM
im here for a year and a half now. received so far about 10 parking tickets on avis cars, b'h so far no charges to my cc bli ayin hara. never changed the #
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on May 20, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
I rented a car from Avis 15 months ago. While i was there i got a 100NIS parking ticket which i discarded.

a few weeks ago i got a letter in the mail from an attorney in Israel who was demanding that i pay  the fine plus an additional 40NIS!

I googled him and he advertises that he collects corporate loans and fines for a commission, I had long ago canceled that credit card but i paid him (although i probably could have gotten away with it...)
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on May 20, 2013, 01:31:28 PM
I rented a car from Avis 15 months ago. While i was there i got a 100NIS parking ticket which i discarded.

a few weeks ago i got a letter in the mail from an attorney in Israel who was demanding that i pay  the fine plus an additional 40NIS!

I googled him and he advertises that he collects corporate loans and fines for a commission, I had long ago canceled that credit card but i paid him (although i probably could have gotten away with it...)
wow! sounds scary my tickets for parking on side walks were 500 nis each
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on May 20, 2013, 05:10:41 PM
I rented a car from Avis 15 months ago. While i was there i got a 100NIS parking ticket which i discarded.

a few weeks ago i got a letter in the mail from an attorney in Israel who was demanding that i pay  the fine plus an additional 40NIS!

I googled him and he advertises that he collects corporate loans and fines for a commission, I had long ago canceled that credit card but i paid him (although i probably could have gotten away with it...)
I feel bad for a good 140 shekel in the garbage
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: birne on May 20, 2013, 06:02:12 PM
I feel bad for a good 140 shekel in the garbage
+1 ROFL
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: steeeveknowsbest on May 21, 2013, 02:05:21 AM
+1 ROFL
I'm glad you got a laugh out of it,
as i wasn't sure if it could affect my credit and it was a legitimate ticket i figured 140 nis isn't a whole lot of money to spend just to b sure
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yehuda S on June 17, 2013, 09:21:55 PM
I just got a letter from a lawyer representing the city of Jerusalem for a ticket that I got on the second day of shavuos - last year. I definitely don't think I should have to pay it as it was chag for me.

It says that if I don't pay the fine within 30 days I will be charged a lot more. Of course I only got the letter four months late.

Anyone have any suggestions? I live in the U.S...
Can I be arrested the next time I come to Israel if I get pulled over or something?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: bades on June 18, 2013, 09:25:08 AM
Anyone has ant experience getting a parking ticket on a rental car in Israel? does the rental agency go after your cc?
As per my experience with Avis 9 out of 10 times they don't.

please post your experiences..

I just got 3 charges on my cc from a jan car rental.. So yes....
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on June 18, 2013, 09:26:55 AM
I just got 3 charges on my cc from a jan car rental.. So yes....
Care to share which agency?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: ashers on June 18, 2013, 10:35:50 AM
I have a long term contract with Hertz here in Israel and they always charge the parking tickets...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on June 18, 2013, 02:30:16 PM
I have a long term contract with Hertz here in Israel and they always charge the parking tickets...
long term contract might be different. Hertz might be different
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: bades on June 18, 2013, 07:57:25 PM
Hertz for me
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on June 27, 2013, 01:14:02 PM
Just received two charges for $22 from Eldan. I contacted them, and they said its a processing fee for parking tickets in January.

Yes I canceled my card. And received my new one already.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on June 30, 2013, 01:31:53 AM
I just got a letter in the mail from an American collection agency demanding $500, called them up & was told this is from unpaid parking ticket in israel, anything to worry about?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2013, 01:19:58 PM
I just got a letter in the mail from an American collection agency demanding $500, called them up & was told this is from unpaid parking ticket in israel, anything to worry about?
wow, were you aware of this previously?
i don't know if it can go on your credit report, but if it can, i'd be concerned.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on June 30, 2013, 02:08:20 PM
wow, were you aware of this previously?
i don't know if it can go on your credit report, but if it can, i'd be concerned.
was I aware that I had unpaid tickets in Israel?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on June 30, 2013, 02:15:44 PM
was I aware that I had unpaid tickets in Israel?
Yes!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on June 30, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
yes I had loads of tickets from my time there as a bocher, but I don't see how it can affect my credit as it had nothing with my ssn
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shimino1 on July 01, 2013, 09:45:11 AM
I did a favor for a friend and rented a car for him under my name. he got a 500 shekel fine for parking on the sidewalk. I really hope nothing happens but i just saw a random 50 shekel charge on my cc from avis. Now im afraid that might be the fee for processing or something and that the ticket will soon arive by mail.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: jj1000 on July 01, 2013, 11:01:05 AM
I don't understand why people in this thread are suggesting to cancel your card, when all you need is to report it stolen and they'll over night you new numbers. Should accomplish the same thing
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on July 01, 2013, 05:40:13 PM
I don't understand why people in this thread are suggesting to cancel your card, when all you need is to report it stolen and they'll over night you new numbers. Should accomplish the same thing
Thats what they all mean by canceling the card. (Not closing the card). ;D
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on July 01, 2013, 05:51:27 PM
Thats what they all mean by canceling the card. (Not closing the card). ;D
and they do this all just not to have to pay legit parking tickets?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: U-no-me! on July 01, 2013, 05:56:05 PM
and they do this all just not to have to pay legit parking tickets?

Who said "legit"?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on July 01, 2013, 05:58:44 PM
Who said "legit"?
99% of the time, if you got a parking ticket in Israel, it was legit.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: EMES on July 02, 2013, 12:50:36 AM
99% of the time, if you got a parking ticket in Israel, it was legit.
They me be legit as per their rule book.
But who is receiving the money? The city.
As a resident of the city there is no free parking within a few block radius.
Although I chose to live here, this is a familiar scenario to many all over Israel.
I feel obligated to do my best by assisting others and myself of course to stop this cr@.. and avoid paying these fines.

Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on July 02, 2013, 01:22:49 AM
They me be legit as per their rule book.
But who is receiving the money? The city.
As a resident of the city there is no free parking within a few block radius.
Although I chose to live here, this is a familiar scenario to many all over Israel.
I feel obligated to do my best by assisting others and myself of course to stop this cr@.. and avoid paying these fines.
lol
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: U-no-me! on July 02, 2013, 07:12:58 AM
Isn't parking tickets and legit an oxymoron?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on July 02, 2013, 08:44:32 AM
They me be legit as per their rule book.
But who is receiving the money? The city.
As a resident of the city there is no free parking within a few block radius.
Although I chose to live here, this is a familiar scenario to many all over Israel.
I feel obligated to do my best by assisting others and myself of course to stop this cr@.. and avoid paying these fines.
+1
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 08:48:42 AM
They me be legit as per their rule book.
But who is receiving the money? The city.
As a resident of the city there is no free parking within a few block radius.
Although I chose to live here, this is a familiar scenario to many all over Israel.
I feel obligated to do my best by assisting others and myself of course to stop this cr@.. and avoid paying these fines.


iirc, a resident can get a permit to park for free near his residence
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on July 02, 2013, 06:31:01 PM
yeh but theres no parking near the iriyah, so ull get another ticket
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on July 02, 2013, 06:37:49 PM
yeh but theres no parking near the iriyah, so ull get another ticket
-1 there is a huge underground parking lot, which IIRC is free for the first hour.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shimino1 on July 03, 2013, 07:33:03 PM
-1 there is a huge underground parking lot, which IIRC is free for the first hour.
I think he was joking.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on July 06, 2013, 03:00:22 PM
I think he was joking.
+1 he was.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: mclovin on September 16, 2013, 05:41:25 PM
how will getting new credit card numbers help if i have the new credit card in my profile?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: moish on October 03, 2013, 05:17:36 PM
so i just got a call from a collection agency in the US demanding payment for a parking ticket i received in jerusalem for an avis rental back in may 2012. they want $130 for a 100nis ticket. i guess the fun is over...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dan on October 03, 2013, 05:22:36 PM
so i just got a call from a collection agency in the US demanding payment for a parking ticket i received in jerusalem for an avis rental back in may 2012. they want $130 for a 100nis ticket. i guess the fun is over...
Wow.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on October 03, 2013, 07:49:04 PM
so i just got a call from a collection agency in the US demanding payment for a parking ticket i received in jerusalem for an avis rental back in may 2012. they want $130 for a 100nis ticket. i guess the fun is over...
why should it be? they should have to take you to a US court for such a thing. dont think they will
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on October 03, 2013, 08:01:24 PM
so i just got a call from a collection agency in the US demanding payment for a parking ticket i received in jerusalem for an avis rental back in may 2012. they want $130 for a 100nis ticket. i guess the fun is over...
On behalf of Avis Israel or Jerusalem city?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: damaxer91 on October 17, 2013, 04:19:51 PM
I got a letter from them.

Joseph Mann & Creed out of Shaker Heights, Ohio is the collections agency and is working on behalf of Isaac Eilat Law Offices.

Does anyone know if this is binding?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2013, 04:28:52 PM
I got a letter from them.

Joseph Mann & Creed out of Shaker Heights, Ohio is the collections agency and is working on behalf of Isaac Eilat Law Offices.

Does anyone know if this is binding?
Pay it. Not worth the risk of having it show up on your credit report.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: damaxer91 on October 17, 2013, 04:37:13 PM
Pay it. Not worth the risk of having it show up on your credit report.

And when I start getting hundreds of them?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dan on October 17, 2013, 04:38:59 PM
And when I start getting hundreds of them?
Lol, stinks for you!
Happy I paid off my 2 Israeli parking tickets now.

I wonder if my Tasmania ticket will catch up to me one day?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on October 17, 2013, 05:17:31 PM
And when I start getting hundreds of them?
than you will look like me
btw how much was this for?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on October 20, 2013, 07:24:14 AM
just got a leeter from the eilat firm also. gonna ignore it. am i crazy?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on October 20, 2013, 07:40:19 AM
just got a leeter from the eilat firm also. gonna ignore it. am i crazy?
in US or Israel? For how much?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shimino1 on October 20, 2013, 08:05:08 AM
I got a charge on my cc from avis when i called they said it was the fee for trasfering the parking ticket on my name. im still waiting for the actual ticket.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: how on October 20, 2013, 09:00:13 AM
so i just got a call from a collection agency in the US demanding payment for a parking ticket i received in jerusalem for an avis rental back in may 2012. they want $130 for a 100nis ticket. i guess the fun is over...
Moish they called you in Israel or in the US?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Vosizderneias on October 20, 2013, 09:42:10 AM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/20/ubasa6es.jpg)#%&$
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on October 20, 2013, 10:21:50 AM
in US or Israel? For how much?
usa $130
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: moish on October 20, 2013, 01:20:33 PM
Moish they called you in Israel or in the US?
us
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: andrew on October 20, 2013, 01:42:57 PM
Pay it. Not worth the risk of having it show up on your credit report.
is their any basis to say that a outstanding bill in a foreign country could be reported on a usa CR? i dont think thats a real chashash. they cant prove that money is owed to an american company
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: how on October 20, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
us
That's bad news
is their any basis to say that a outstanding bill in a foreign country could be reported on a usa CR? i dont think thats a real chashash. they cant prove that money is owed to an american company
who said you have to owe money to a US company per say, and now your fine was transferred to this US firm :-\
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: how on October 20, 2013, 02:15:16 PM
Its really good that I have this set up it saves lots of time and moneyhttp://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=32228.0 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=32228.0)but now I still have to worry about all those old tickets
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: bades on January 14, 2014, 05:28:07 PM
I got a letter from them.

Joseph Mann & Creed out of Shaker Heights, Ohio is the collections agency and is working on behalf of Isaac Eilat Law Offices.

Does anyone know if this is binding?

BUMP i just got a letter from them i called them to pay and no answered the phone, IS this binding in anyway?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: SamKey on January 18, 2014, 08:46:02 PM
Just got a letter too
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chff on January 18, 2014, 09:31:44 PM
Just got a letter too

For what date frame?
I got a ticket in Nov 2010 & haven't received anything
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on January 19, 2014, 01:01:11 AM
just received a letter from josepf mann & creed, a collections agency demanding payment of $200 on behalf of issac eilat law offices, what the hec do i do? is there anything they could do to me? can i just deny the whole thing and force them to prove everything?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yitzyul on January 19, 2014, 01:03:24 AM
From how long ago was the ticket???
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on January 19, 2014, 01:15:24 AM
From how long ago was the ticket???
no idea. i have millions from over the years
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on January 19, 2014, 01:32:30 AM
just received a letter from josepf mann & creed, a collections agency demanding payment of $200 on behalf of issac eilat law offices, what the hec do i do? is there anything they could do to me? can i just deny the whole thing and force them to prove everything?
why would they have a problem to prove the parking ticket? They are slowly getting around to everyone
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yitzyul on January 19, 2014, 02:13:55 AM
I got a few tickets a year ago and I cancelled credit card (it got lost) will I be blacklisted from them to rent again this week?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: moish on January 19, 2014, 02:18:20 AM
just received a letter from josepf mann & creed, a collections agency demanding payment of $200 on behalf of issac eilat law offices, what the hec do i do? is there anything they could do to me? can i just deny the whole thing and force them to prove everything?
they have a copy of your ticket. they sent me a copy of mine when i requested them to do so
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Drago on January 19, 2014, 02:27:10 AM
I feel bad for you folks, but at the same time, as a tax-paying Israeli, I'm happy that they're finally going after collecting these tickets.
When you rent a car here, you're obligating yourself to follow the driving rules, and the associated fines for ignoring them.

I'll come off my high horse now.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on January 19, 2014, 02:57:13 PM
they have a copy of your ticket. they sent me a copy of mine when i requested them to do so
can i somehow deny it? can this hit my credit report?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: moish on January 19, 2014, 06:43:18 PM
can i somehow deny it? can this hit my credit report?
deny what? they have your ticket and the avis info that you were the driver at the time
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yitzyul on January 19, 2014, 08:01:05 PM
I feel bad for you folks, but at the same time, as a tax-paying Israeli, I'm happy that they're finally going after collecting these tickets.
When you rent a car here, you're obligating yourself to follow the driving rules, and the associated fines for ignoring them.

I'll come off my high horse now.

-1
If Israel would follow its own rules half the tickets I got wouldn't be ticketsÖI.E  1)meter sticker printed wrong date.
2)Machine eats your money and noting prints 3) No working machine within 5 block radius 4) THe meter person giving me ticket even though he can see be by the muni meter, I can go on and on...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on January 20, 2014, 12:53:57 AM
deny what? they have your ticket and the avis info that you were the driver at the time
would the credit agencies here accept that?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: world2see on February 14, 2014, 07:36:34 AM
Just got a bunch of threatening letters from Isaac Eilat Law Firm for a few tickets  I got last May
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: rots5 on February 14, 2014, 07:38:51 AM
Just got a bunch of threatening letters from Isaac Eilat Law Firm for a few tickets  I got last May
funny...
Title: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Gets on February 14, 2014, 08:57:18 AM
Were the guys that got the letters the same guys that canceled the cards, might be better just to let them charge you the $22.

I heard from a few people if you pay online $1 it shows up paid on their system, anyone else heard this?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: SamDaMan on February 14, 2014, 10:45:42 AM
I got 2 parking tickets 100 nis ea. On a thrifty car....guess ill pay it
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: 18seagate on February 14, 2014, 11:39:45 AM

Just got a bunch of threatening letters from Isaac Eilat Law Firm for a few tickets  I got last May
same here
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: HowYaDoin on February 15, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
I got the letter as well.... and I cancelled the card although I got charged on the cancelled card I paid it and then it got credited back... anyways do I pay this eilat fellowm
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: bhphotoman on February 15, 2014, 08:42:43 PM
Also got a letter from the same firm
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yehuda S on February 15, 2014, 09:13:28 PM

Just got a bunch of threatening letters from Isaac Eilat Law Firm for a few tickets  I got last May
Same here. Did anyone pay them? Will it cause problems when I want to go back?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: creditor on February 16, 2014, 06:58:45 PM
shoots. should have seen this before....
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: how on March 13, 2014, 08:01:38 PM
Just got a bunch of threatening letters from Isaac Eilat Law Firm for a few tickets  I got last May
just got a letter for a ticket im sure I paid...

Advice?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chucksterace on March 13, 2014, 08:16:22 PM

just got a letter for a ticket im sure I paid...

Advice?

You didnt keep a confirmation that you paid it?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: how on March 13, 2014, 08:37:16 PM
You didnt keep a confirmation that you paid it?
from 2 years ago... No
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on March 16, 2014, 04:05:50 AM
Same here. Did anyone pay them? Will it cause problems when I want to go back?
not when u go back, but the question im worried about is ur credit report in the usa
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: zipo4me on March 19, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
I've been back a million times no problem. I must have received 3 letters from them.
I can't really see how it's possible for them to give me issues in America. The letter isn't even certified, who said I ever got it.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: mr. perfect on April 03, 2014, 12:18:30 AM
How /is it possible for these tickets to get on to your credit report ?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: zw on August 07, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
 So did anyone get screwed in any way (rental company, collecting agency)  for not paying a parking ticket, I just got one for 500 nis?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on August 07, 2014, 09:18:55 PM
So did anyone get screwed in any way (rental company, collecting agency)  for not paying a parking ticket, I just got one for 500 nis?
im also begging for a quality reply to this question...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: zw on August 08, 2014, 05:07:32 AM
Well I guess nothing happened to you as of yet so I'm just gonna leave it for now....
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shaulyaakov on August 12, 2014, 03:36:53 PM
Tickets in israel are not due till 3 months from when u get them .
Once the due date passes and they realize it has not bin paid they start reviewing info on the car tom contact the owner which in this case is the rental agency ...
It safe to say that before 6 months they rental company does not know received a violation ...
Therefore to be sage cancel your cards every 6 months son they can not charge your card ..., if it comes down to it

And thanks for listening

How is this not considered stealing?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on August 14, 2014, 07:47:43 AM
How is this not considered stealing?
stealing is when u take money belonging to someone else, or if u dont pay someone what u owe them. when someone decides that u owe him money because he can, if u dont pay that it is not stealing. if u do pay them he is stealing from u
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shmebeble on August 14, 2014, 07:54:54 AM
stealing is when u take money belonging to someone else, or if u dont pay someone what u owe them. when someone decides that u owe him money because he can, if u dont pay that it is not stealing. if u do pay them he is stealing from u
Ignorant.  You owe money and are too Jewish. 
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on August 14, 2014, 07:58:49 AM
Ignorant.  You owe money and are too Jewish.
I hope your not jewish. I cant fathom one yid calling another yid too jewish In a deragatory way
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: creditor on August 14, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
Todays offer: if you got a parking ticket in Israel today, PM me and I'll wipe it for you.
no charge
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: DovtheBear on August 14, 2014, 02:47:19 PM
Todays offer: if you got a parking ticket in Israel today, PM me and I'll wipe it for you.
no charge
Dang. Could've sped today.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on August 14, 2014, 02:58:50 PM
Dang. Could've sped today.
Sped into a parking spot? How would speeding get you a parking ticket?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: DovtheBear on August 14, 2014, 03:02:16 PM
Sped into a parking spot? How would speeding get you a parking ticket?
Oops. Missed the parking part.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on August 16, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
Ignorant.  You owe money and are too Jewish.
maybe mr learned can bother to explain his learned position?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on August 16, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
stealing is when u take money belonging to someone else, or if u dont pay someone what u owe them. when someone decides that u owe him money because he can, if u dont pay that it is not stealing. if u do pay them he is stealing from u

But here it's a little more nuanced, as the rental co. ends up paying.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on August 17, 2014, 04:44:35 AM

Todays offer: if you got a parking ticket in Israel today, PM me and I'll wipe it for you.
no charge
is your offer still on the table? It's technically still today.
Also if anyone else has as answer to what I shall/can do? I received a parking ticket today on a sixt car for 100 shekel in tzfat. While I would would love not to pay it, my main concern is the loads of money sixt officially charges if you get a ticket.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on August 17, 2014, 08:14:10 AM
But here it's a little more nuanced, as the rental co. ends up paying.
there u go, mistake #1. the rental doesnt pay a cent. they just foward ur info to the city and tell them to go find u... (assuming that it was rented under a foreign passport). proof of this is the collection letters that everybody has been getting recently, they all say they are representing the city of jerusalem, not the rental companies.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on August 17, 2014, 08:15:44 AM
Ignorant.  You owe money and are too Jewish.
btw thanx for the compliment. my wife doesnt think im jewish enough, so ill tell her what u think.
we are still waiting for ur learned explanation
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on August 17, 2014, 08:54:28 AM
there u go, mistake #1. the rental doesnt pay a cent. they just foward ur info to the city and tell them to go find u... (assuming that it was rented under a foreign passport). proof of this is the collection letters that everybody has been getting recently, they all say they are representing the city of jerusalem, not the rental companies.

I did not know that. Thanks!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: HowYaDoin on August 24, 2014, 12:12:03 AM
I've been back a million times no problem. I must have received 3 letters from them.
I can't really see how it's possible for them to give me issues in America. The letter isn't even certified, who said I ever got it.
Bad news ppl just got a letter from cedar financial....collection agency notice.. "the Jerusalem municipality has delegated Isaac Eilat law offices and their united states agent cedar financial to carry out the collection procedure for the above references parking violation.....if you dont notify this office within 30 days disputing this claim, this office will assume the debt is valid and will mail you a cipy of the judgement...." @$&!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: mena613 on November 04, 2014, 06:26:13 AM

Im renting a Car from Shlomo sixt and parked for two minutes half on a side walk with no signs anyhwere
saying that your not allowed. The yiria guy gave me a fine for 500 SHEKEL?

Will shlomo sixt also charge me a fee ?

What are my options ?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on November 04, 2014, 02:42:35 PM
Bad news ppl just got a letter from cedar financial....collection agency notice.. "the Jerusalem municipality has delegated Isaac Eilat law offices and their united states agent cedar financial to carry out the collection procedure for the above references parking violation.....if you dont notify this office within 30 days disputing this claim, this office will assume the debt is valid and will mail you a cipy of the judgement...." @$&!
i have received this letter over 2 years ago, besides for a bunch of harrasing phone calls there isnt much they could do to force me to pay
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: how on November 04, 2014, 02:58:58 PM
Im renting a Car from Shlomo sixt and parked for two minutes half on a side walk with no signs anyhwere
saying that your not allowed. The yiria guy gave me a fine for 500 SHEKEL?

Will shlomo sixt also charge me a fee ?

What are my options ?
you dont need a sign to tell you not to park on the sidewalk
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Red on November 04, 2014, 03:00:10 PM
you dont need a sign to tell you not to park on the sidewalk
-1
Many places require you to park half on the sidewalk.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: how on November 04, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
-1
Many places require you to park half on the sidewalk.
those place have a sign allowing you to do so
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Jkhein on November 04, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
those place have a sign allowing you to do so
You are sometimes better just parking regular off the sidewalk and risking a ticket of 250 instead of 500 on the sidewalk
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on November 05, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
You are sometimes better just parking regular off the sidewalk and risking a ticket of 250 instead of 500 on the sidewalk
many places its only nis 100 for not getting a kartis
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dr Moose on January 21, 2015, 01:58:53 PM
got a parking ticket with an Avis rental car. just throw out the ticket?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on January 21, 2015, 02:04:52 PM
got a parking ticket with an Avis rental car. just throw out the ticket?
yup
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Marco Polo on January 21, 2015, 04:39:14 PM
Got a letter a few weeks ago from the Eilat firm. Total was ~$30 which i paid through PayPal. Received it 11 months after i got the ticket.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on January 21, 2015, 04:40:04 PM

Got a letter a few weeks ago from the Eilat firm. Total was ~$30 which i paid through PayPal. Received it 11 months after i got the ticket.
What did the letter say?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Marco Polo on January 21, 2015, 04:41:29 PM
What did the letter say?
Standard letter about unpaid parking ticket with a few options to pay the fine. Probably something about taking action if not paid in x amount of days.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on January 21, 2015, 07:20:01 PM
has anyone actualy suffered from ignoring the eilat firm letters, like credit report stuff or actual legal action?
ive been ignoring them for 2 years already, and besides for annoying phone calls nothing has been done
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Matovu on January 21, 2015, 08:18:34 PM
Got mr. Eilats letter today
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: peacenlove613 on January 21, 2015, 11:48:20 PM

Got mr. Eilats letter today
Got one today too. The ticket was from 2 years ago.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Yehuda25 on January 21, 2015, 11:55:10 PM
Got one today too. The ticket was from 2 years ago.
Whats today? They decided all of a sudden to collect on all these tickets?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: peacenlove613 on January 27, 2015, 08:18:33 PM

Whats today? They decided all of a sudden to collect on all these tickets?
I guess so. I even tried to pay it when I got back but they kept asking for my teudat zehut so I gave up. For me it's only $25 so I just paid it.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on February 14, 2015, 09:15:22 PM
I got the letter as well today for 3 parking tickets while there last year in May 2013.
Just ignore it?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Mech on February 14, 2015, 11:16:15 PM

I got the letter as well today for 3 parking tickets while there last year in May 2013.
Just ignore it?
Where was is mailed to? America?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on February 15, 2015, 04:00:01 AM
I got the letter as well today for 3 parking tickets while there last year in May 2013.
Just ignore it?
How much do they want?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Banillareloads on February 15, 2015, 03:46:08 PM
I know this is titled parking tix but think this is the appropriate thread for my q. I see a $216 charge from "kikar tel aviv"  pending on the cc that I used for my car rental at thrifty. Pretty darn sure its a speeding ticket. Anyone have experience with these, fighting paying, ignoring etc?
TIA
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on February 18, 2015, 11:30:39 PM

I got the letter as well today for 3 parking tickets while there last year in May 2013.
Just ignore it?
yes I have thousands of dollars in ignored parking tickets
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 19, 2015, 01:29:08 PM
yes I have thousands of dollars in ignored parking tickets
if it's already on the cc...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Theodorel on February 25, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
Does not paying tickets in Israel some how affect your credit if you don't pay???
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Theodorel on February 25, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
I've gotten dozens of letters from law company in Israel trying to get my money...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on February 25, 2015, 10:08:02 AM
Does not paying tickets in Israel some how affect your credit if you don't pay???
No
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on June 03, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
Does anyone have any experience with a ticket in a parking lot in Tiberias, on a rented car?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on June 07, 2015, 10:10:13 AM
Does anyone have any experience with a ticket in a parking lot in Tiberias, on a rented car?
how did you get it if for the meter were you on the way to buy it or were you staying at the hotel that is right there (Leonardo) if yes its easy to fight
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on June 07, 2015, 10:15:22 AM


if yes its easy to fight
Without going down? I got a ticket there and I have the muni meter receipt
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on June 07, 2015, 10:20:57 AM
Without going down? I got a ticket there and I have the muni meter receipt
you can mail it in i dont see why that wont work
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on June 08, 2015, 12:10:19 AM
how did you get it if for the meter were you on the way to buy it or were you staying at the hotel that is right there (Leonardo) if yes its easy to fight
Parking lot in front of hotel. Arrived there at night parked the car and found out in the morning that it doesn't belong to the hotel.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on June 08, 2015, 04:58:55 AM
Parking lot in front of hotel. Arrived there at night parked the car and found out in the morning that it doesn't belong to the hotel.
was it the Leonardo? because they dont own the parking lot but give a pass to park there so you should be ok
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on June 08, 2015, 07:35:51 AM
was it the Leonardo? because they dont own the parking lot but give a pass to park there so you should be ok
No, Caesar.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on June 08, 2015, 10:30:35 AM
No, Caesar.
do they have their own parking lot?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on June 08, 2015, 10:38:41 AM
do they have their own parking lot?
Didn't check. Most probably.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on June 08, 2015, 10:41:47 AM
Didn't check. Most probably.
call them and ask it cant hurt
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on June 08, 2015, 10:42:28 AM
call them and ask it cant hurt
Okay. Thanks.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: mawmaw on July 17, 2015, 02:47:28 AM
i received a latter from eilat few month ago now i just received a new latter from cedar though they misspelled my name  $56 ignore? i think originally it was less
P.S i have Israeli licence and T.Z number and they never crossed  references   
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on July 17, 2015, 08:17:02 AM
i received a latter from eilat few month ago now i just received a new latter from cedar though they misspelled my name  $56 ignore? i think originally it was less
P.S i have Israeli licence and T.Z number and they never crossed  references   
Everyone ignores them without consequence though dunno about having a T.Z
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on July 19, 2015, 07:40:28 PM
i received a latter from eilat few month ago now i just received a new latter from cedar though they misspelled my name  $56 ignore? i think originally it was less
P.S i have Israeli licence and T.Z number and they never crossed  references   
well if they misspelled your name I doubt they can cross reference it
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dave A on July 21, 2015, 05:06:59 PM
Haven't seen a post re Hertz rental cars in a while ... got a ticket in J-lem (100 NIS) on Hertz rental.  Don't plan on cancelling the CC anytime soon.  Just pay it?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on July 21, 2015, 05:53:13 PM
Haven't seen a post re Hertz rental cars in a while ... got a ticket in J-lem (100 NIS) on Hertz rental.  Don't plan on cancelling the CC anytime soon.  Just don't pay it
FTFY
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dave A on July 21, 2015, 05:57:57 PM
Haven't seen a post re Hertz rental cars in a while ... got a ticket in J-lem (100 NIS) on Hertz rental.  Don't plan on cancelling the CC anytime soon.  Just pay it?

FTFY

And Hertz won't charge me, despite the term in the rental agreement that says they will + fee?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on July 21, 2015, 06:04:49 PM
Yes they will charge you iirc $17, which is cheaper then 100 shekel
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dave A on July 21, 2015, 06:09:17 PM
Yes they will charge you iirc $17, which is cheaper then 100 shekel

So it sounds like they don't also pay the ticket and pass on the fee to you?  Thanks for your help! 
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on July 21, 2015, 06:11:51 PM
So it sounds like they don't also pay the ticket and pass on the fee to you?  Thanks for your help!
Correct.  Your welcome
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Theodorel on July 23, 2015, 09:58:28 AM
Anyone ever get a "collection notice" from cedar financial for parking violation? If yes, did you pay?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: srf60 on July 23, 2015, 02:07:03 PM
I got one a few weeks ago, was a ticket from August 2013, called them that I never got such a ticket....., maybe this firm is not even legit......... and just let it go.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shmooz on August 30, 2015, 12:35:24 PM
Got two 100NIS  tickets last yr, didnt pay because Hertz contract states they would. now got a letter from the  eilat firm saying that Hertz paid $20 each and I owe balance plus eilat's handling fee.

Its not a lot and i would just pay it but the whole thing doesnt make sense since why would hertz pay only part of the fee? I cant figure out by looking at charges since there are also kvis 6 charges and i cant tell whats what.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: clear thinker on August 30, 2015, 12:46:39 PM
I got a letter from Cedar for $175. I don't remember anything.
But interestingly enough they have my dad's name with my address.
Should I be worried?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on August 30, 2015, 01:17:47 PM
I got a letter from Cedar for $175. I don't remember anything.
But interestingly enough they have my dad's name with my address.
Should I be worried?
you can be worried, but i still wouldn't pay   :)
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: clear thinker on August 30, 2015, 01:18:53 PM
you can be worried, but i still wouldn't pay   :)
Because you wouldn't worry or because your worrying is not worth $175?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 04, 2015, 07:17:36 AM
So it sounds like they don't also pay the ticket and pass on the fee to you?  Thanks for your help!

The charge the $17 as a "service fee" for the trouble of having to write a letter to the municipality declaring that it was a dumb tourist during a rental who scored the ticket, and not someone who they can actually go after.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Red on September 04, 2015, 07:30:44 AM
The charge the $17 as a "service fee" for the trouble of having to write a letter to the municipality declaring that it was a dumb tourist during a rental who scored the ticket, and not someone who they can actually go after.
And when I had that, I made a quick call to Chase and bye bye to the $17 fee.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Dave A on September 04, 2015, 01:38:19 PM
And when I had that, I made a quick call to Chase and bye bye to the $17 fee.
What was the substance of your call?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yare on September 04, 2015, 03:34:25 PM
Everyone ignores them without consequence though dunno about having a T.Z
ignores cedar, or eilat?   eilat is an israeli firm that can't do much, but cedar is based in CA and is a regular collection agency, ie, it will go on your credit report.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: HowYaDoin on September 04, 2015, 03:41:22 PM
ignores cedar, or eilat?   eilat is an israeli firm that can't do much, but cedar is based in CA and is a regular collection agency, ie, it will go on your credit report.
They dont have your SSN, there is no way it goes on your credit report, besides the fact that i got letters from them last year and nothing ever showed up on my report
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yare on September 04, 2015, 04:46:36 PM
They dont have your SSN, there is no way it goes on your credit report, besides the fact that i got letters from them last year and nothing ever showed up on my report
they have your passport info from the car rental company. are you sure that's not enough?

this was the only result i got from google
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/749901.html
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: HowYaDoin on September 04, 2015, 04:47:31 PM
they have your passport info from the car rental company. are you sure that's not enough?
All I know is my experience and nothing ever showed up
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on September 05, 2015, 01:37:01 PM
They dont have your SSN, there is no way it goes on your credit report, besides the fact that i got letters from them last year and nothing ever showed up on my report
They dont need a social to get something onto your credit report.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 05, 2015, 03:28:26 PM
ignores cedar, or eilat?   eilat is an israeli firm that can't do much, but cedar is based in CA and is a regular collection agency, ie, it will go on your credit report.
A friend of mine just told me that when they called him he asked if it will go on his report and they said NO. So they asked him if he will lay he said no so asked again you never plan on paying and he said no again so they said ok will right that down so no one calls you back again.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Red on September 05, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
What was the substance of your call?
Hi, I have a new $17 charge on my card from a car rental a while back. I paid for the rental in full and have a receipt to show. Their response, Ok sir we'll look into it and get back to you. Money credited back, the end.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 06, 2015, 02:05:46 PM
They dont need a social to get something onto your credit report.
+1
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Zevi16 on September 07, 2015, 06:35:53 PM
I just got a charge to my CC from 'kardenvehicle' for about $30. i think it was for a 100 shek ticket or maybe it was from the highway 6.. i also went on that... but basically they do charge the CC. (Rented from Avis and got a Mazda 3 with 93000km)
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 07, 2015, 08:02:03 PM
I just got a charge to my CC from 'kardenvehicle' for about $30. i think it was for a 100 shek ticket or maybe it was from the highway 6.. i also went on that... but basically they do charge the CC. (Rented from Avis and got a Mazda 3 with 93000km)

"Kardan" is Avis Israel.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 08, 2015, 04:27:57 AM
I just got a charge to my CC from 'kardenvehicle' for about $30. i think it was for a 100 shek ticket or maybe it was from the highway 6.. i also went on that... but basically they do charge the CC. (Rented from Avis and got a Mazda 3 with 93000km)
It's probably for going on the 6. Not for sure for the ticket.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Zevi16 on September 08, 2015, 07:15:42 AM
$30? Thats a hefty toll road... Verizano should learn from them :)
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 08, 2015, 07:19:28 AM
$30? Thats a hefty toll road... Verizano should learn from them :)

LOL.

Avis adds on a "handling fee" of 50 NIS, though, IIRC.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Zevi16 on September 08, 2015, 07:26:31 AM
LOL.

Avis adds on a "handling fee" of 50 NIS, though, IIRC.

So i really hope they dont charge my CC for the parking tickets... i got charged in america once $25.75 for going on a toll lane in Florida. It was a $25 fee and $.75 toll charge...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Moishebatchy on September 08, 2015, 07:47:27 AM
So i really hope they dont charge my CC for the parking tickets... i got charged in america once $25.75 for going on a toll lane in Florida. It was a $25 fee and $.75 toll charge...

That is what we call, quite literally, "highway robbery". 😜
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on September 19, 2015, 10:29:25 PM
I just got letters in the mail from a collection agency for parking tickets received in Israel about 18 months ago. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Zevi16 on September 19, 2015, 10:33:16 PM
I just got letters in the mail from a collection agency for parking tickets received in Israel about 18 months ago. Any suggestions?
A few?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on September 19, 2015, 10:37:52 PM
Yes, I believe there were 3 tickets. Each got it's own letter. I also seem to recall that my cc was charged a few months after I got back from Israel, I assumed it was for the tix but not certain. Should I just ignore?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 19, 2015, 11:02:48 PM
Yes, I believe there were 3 tickets. Each got it's own letter. I also seem to recall that my cc was charged a few months after I got back from Israel, I assumed it was for the tix but not certain. Should I just ignore?
Yes you can ignore IMO.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Matovu on September 19, 2015, 11:27:12 PM
Yes you can ignore IMO.
Umm but we're talking collections now
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on September 19, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
Umm but we're talking collections now
Sometimes collections are just used as a scare tactic and they can't really do anything
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: nilsou on September 21, 2015, 01:45:17 PM
I am pretty sure, though not 100%, that this is a scam.

Someone got a hold of a list of rental location clients and is sending them fake collection letters hoping a fraction of the people will pay without thinking about it.

I am investigating and will update this thread once I have more info.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 21, 2015, 04:06:27 PM
I am pretty sure, though not 100%, that this is a scam.

Someone got a hold of a list of rental location clients and is sending them fake collection letters hoping a fraction of the people will pay without thinking about it.

I am investigating and will update this thread once I have more info.
welcome to the forums!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: rileywiles23 on September 22, 2015, 08:39:10 AM

welcome to the forums!
Quite a first post as well.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: HowYaDoin on September 22, 2015, 10:19:28 AM
I am pretty sure, though not 100%, that this is a scam.

Someone got a hold of a list of rental location clients and is sending them fake collection letters hoping a fraction of the people will pay without thinking about it.

I am investigating and will update this thread once I have more info.
I got from Cedar and Eilat and the info on my tickets was pretty accurate IIRC
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Yehuda25 on September 22, 2015, 03:57:58 PM
Quite a first post as well.
+1 Giving instead of taking. I like it.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 23, 2015, 06:06:17 PM
I got from Cedar and Eilat and the info on my tickets was pretty accurate IIRC
Accurate ticket info doesn't mean they are legit!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on September 23, 2015, 08:41:33 PM
Accurate ticket info doesn't mean they are legit!
why not?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 23, 2015, 10:45:46 PM
why not?
That can just mean that they got info from the rental company but doesn't mean they're a legit collection agency.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on September 24, 2015, 12:12:32 AM
That can just mean that they got info from the rental company but doesn't mean they're a legit collection agency.
I got mine from Cedar Financial first in debt recovery, at least that's what their stationary says. The return address is to cedar Financial po box 8986 calabasas CA.  Looking on Google it looks like a legit agency and they do international debt collections. I guess the real question here is can they do anything that will effect my credit score?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 24, 2015, 01:37:16 AM
I got mine from Cedar Financial first in debt recovery, at least that's what their stationary says. The return address is to cedar Financial po box 8986 calabasas CA.  Looking on Google it looks like a legit agency and they do international debt collections. I guess the real question here is can they do anything that will effect my credit score?


A friend of mine just told me that when they called him he asked if it will go on his report and they said NO. So they asked him if he will pay he said no so asked again you never plan on paying and he said no again so they said ok will right that down so no one calls you back again.

Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on September 24, 2015, 08:33:36 PM

I did see that exact paragraph posted on the internet. That was a friend of yours, Sammy n?  How long ago was he told that?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 24, 2015, 11:42:28 PM
I did see that exact paragraph posted on the internet. That was a friend of yours, Sammy n?  How long ago was he told that?
Where did you see it posted? Yes my friend. I think it was about 2 months ago.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on September 25, 2015, 04:44:06 PM
Where did you see it posted? Yes my friend. I think it was about 2 months ago.
I don't recall, it was likely on some message board
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Fan of Dan on September 27, 2015, 06:11:10 AM
What do people do here about Yom Tov Sheini? I have no where to park other than on the street and being in Rechavia I have a good chance of getting ticket....
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yitzy93 on September 27, 2015, 06:14:05 AM
What do people do here about Yom Tov Sheini? I have no where to park other than on the street and being in Rechavia I have a good chance of getting ticket....
Give your keys to someone who keeps one day...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on September 27, 2015, 06:28:43 AM
What do people do here about Yom Tov Sheini? I have no where to park other than on the street and being in Rechavia I have a good chance of getting ticket....
Get a ticket and dont pay it
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yochiek93 on September 27, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Get a ticket and dont pay it
+1 never has been a problem
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Fan of Dan on September 29, 2015, 03:39:57 PM
I ended up parking by a friend who has a spot so it worked out. So far I did get one ticket for 100 NS so I will have to decide if it's worth paying.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on September 29, 2015, 04:35:26 PM


So far I did get one ticket for 100 NS so I will have to decide if it's worth paying.
I'll help you out, its not.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 29, 2015, 04:36:59 PM
I ended up parking by a friend who has a spot so it worked out. So far I did get one ticket for 100 NS so I will have to decide if it's worth paying.
Why is it a decision, just don't pay.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: raphil on September 30, 2015, 12:44:42 PM
Why is it a decision, just don't pay.
Are you sure that a parking ticket can be ignored?  I am getting letters from a collection agency about unpaid tickets from 18 months ago.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 30, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Are you sure that a parking ticket can be ignored?  I am getting letters from a collection agency about unpaid tickets from 18 months ago.
I've been getting that as well as letters for tickets from 36 months ago and haven't had any problems.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Fan of Dan on September 30, 2015, 05:33:39 PM
Why is it a decision, just don't pay.
Only reason to pay is that at 100 NS it's really not that much and I don't want to risk it going to collections and it somehow affecting my credit. The risk in miniscule but again it's not a lot of money.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on September 30, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Only reason to pay is that at 100 NS it's really not that much and I don't want to risk it going to collections and it somehow affecting my credit. The risk in miniscule but again it's not a lot of money.
Well when you rack up a few thousand shekel worth of tickets it's a bit much.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: dealsmark1 on June 20, 2016, 04:11:38 PM
a friend got a 500 shek parking ticket on a rental car 3 weeks ago,can he let it go? i heard they may have changed the laws....
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: yg99 on June 22, 2016, 10:41:03 AM
Doesn't the rental company get billed?
Does it mess up your record with them & possibly prevent them from renting to you in the future?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on June 22, 2016, 06:52:50 PM
Get a ticket and dont pay it

What do you do after it goes to collection?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on June 22, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
What do you do after it goes to collection?
Nothing. Tell them you are never paying it and they won't contact you ever again.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on June 22, 2016, 07:10:55 PM
Nothing. Tell them you are never paying it and they won't contact you ever again.

Why won't they take legal action?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on June 23, 2016, 01:10:57 AM
Why won't they take legal action?
No idea but they don't.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: ilherman on June 23, 2016, 10:27:49 AM
Don't these people get blacklisted by the car rental?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: carrentals on July 10, 2016, 04:07:44 AM
Got registered mail in Israel from the Iriya for a unpaid 500 NIS ticket.
I also got a $13 charge form Thrifty on my CC last week, for processing this ticket.

Anyone ever got this?
I'm worried that they could freeze my Israeli bank account or make a Ikuv Yetizah.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on July 10, 2016, 04:17:49 AM
Got registered mail in Israel from the Iriya for a unpaid 500 NIS ticket.
I also got a $13 charge form Thrifty on my CC last week, for processing this ticket.

Anyone ever got this?
I'm worried that they could freeze my Israeli bank account or make a Ikuv Yetizah.
I've had it many times and never had my bank account frozen or ikuv yetziah.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: lubaby on February 01, 2017, 01:16:12 PM
No idea but they don't.
No issues when trying to enter or leave the country (American tourist visiting)?

I have a $200 ticket in collections (I was the primary renter but the additional driver got a parking ticket and didn't want to pay).

I'd (obviously) rather not pay since I don't feel responsible for his ticket.. However if there's an actual risk of getting stopped at the airport, I'd rather call the collections firm and make sure they close the file (pay etc.).
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on February 01, 2017, 01:19:28 PM
No issues when trying to enter or leave the country (American tourist visiting)?

I have a $200 ticket in collections (I was the primary renter but the additional driver got a parking ticket and didn't want to pay).

I'd (obviously) rather not pay since I don't feel responsible for his ticket.. However if there's an actual risk of getting stopped at the airport, I'd rather call the collections firm and make sure they close the file (pay etc.).
Want my opinion? Dont pay. Next time the collections agency calls (the one in Eilat or in the States?), tell them you have absolutely no intention of paying.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: lubaby on February 01, 2017, 01:52:57 PM
Want my opinion? Dont pay. Next time the collections agency calls (the one in Eilat or in the States?), tell them you have absolutely no intention of paying.
They never called, just sent letters (which of course I've never received :-X ).
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: JoeyShmoe on February 01, 2017, 02:19:22 PM
No issues when trying to enter or leave the country (American tourist visiting)?

I have a $200 ticket in collections (I was the primary renter but the additional driver got a parking ticket and didn't want to pay).

I'd (obviously) rather not pay since I don't feel responsible for his ticket.. However if there's an actual risk of getting stopped at the airport, I'd rather call the collections firm and make sure they close the file (pay etc.).
I have 2 parking tickets in collections for 4 years already (as of this week :) ), was in Israel 3 weeks ago and didn't have any problems
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: lubaby on February 01, 2017, 02:37:16 PM
I have 2 parking tickets in collections for 4 years already (as of this week :) ), was in Israel 3 weeks ago and didn't have any problems
Thanks.

Is there such a thing as rental car blacklist there? I could always rent from a different company (or have a backup reservation) but want things to be as straightforward as possible once I land.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: JoeyShmoe on February 01, 2017, 02:40:16 PM
Thanks.

Is there such a thing as rental car blacklist there? I could always rent from a different company (or have a backup reservation) but want things to be as straightforward as possible once I land.
4 years ago I rented from Eldan in the airport, this time I rented from Budget in the airport. Although the desks are right next to each other, it seems like they didn't share my info.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Danlover111 on February 01, 2017, 03:26:29 PM
Thanks.

Is there such a thing as rental car blacklist there? I could always rent from a different company (or have a backup reservation) but want things to be as straightforward as possible once I land.
i rented years ago and got 2 parking tickets and rented many times since then from the same company with out any problems
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: moe8555 on February 01, 2017, 06:48:36 PM
Some classic instances here of Israeli hyperbureaucracy actually working in our favor  ;D
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: lubaby on February 01, 2017, 06:52:08 PM
4 years ago I rented from Eldan in the airport, this time I rented from Budget in the airport. Although the desks are right next to each other, it seems like they didn't share my info.
i rented years ago and got 2 parking tickets and rented many times since then from the same company with out any problems
Thanks
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Z56 on February 05, 2017, 07:50:45 AM
How long does this collection agency sends letter for tickets....
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 06, 2017, 05:22:23 AM
How long does this collection agency sends letter for tickets....
i had for a couple of years been receiving letters and phonecalls. till one day i just told them i dont plan on paying. never heard from them again. its been 3 yrs since.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 06, 2017, 05:23:14 AM
its called שיטת המצליח , if they get u to pay great, if not go on to the next one
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: User6669 on February 06, 2017, 09:26:58 AM
its called שיטת המצליח , if they get u to pay great, if not go on to the next one

Why can't they take you to court?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 08, 2017, 10:41:14 AM
Why can't they take you to court?
for 100 shekel?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chinagel on April 06, 2017, 01:30:13 AM
if i got a parking ticket on a rental and dont pay, does the rental car company suffer a loss?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: hocker on April 06, 2017, 06:05:31 AM
if i got a parking ticket on a rental and dont pay, does the rental car company suffer a loss?
No. They will charge you a fee for handling the ticket and sending your info to the gov.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: nafnaf12 on April 06, 2017, 08:48:45 AM
No. They will charge you a fee for handling the ticket and sending your info to the gov.
does one have to send them that info when receiving a letter from the rental company?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: freddy on July 23, 2017, 11:42:34 AM
I got a letter from eilat law firm that I owe $149 based on what read here  I understand that I don't have to pay and it can't affect my credit in the US?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on July 23, 2017, 12:07:07 PM
I got a letter from eilat law firm that I owe $149 based on what read here  I understand that I don't have to pay and it can't affect my credit in the US?
Correct. Unless something very recently changed.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Fan of Dan on September 26, 2017, 12:23:09 AM
I got an Israeli ticket from Cedar Financial in Calabasas CA as an agent for the Isaac Eilat law office. It said that Eilat send me many letters (didn't get any) and now it's been referred to their American agent.

Can I presume that it won't affect my credit if I don't pay? If there's a slight risk then I would certainly pay the 56 dollar fine.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: ludmila on September 26, 2017, 12:55:28 AM
I got an Israeli ticket from Cedar Financial in Calabasas CA as an agent for the Isaac Eilat law office. It said that Eilat send me many letters (didn't get any) and now it's been referred to their American agent.

Can I presume that it won't affect my credit if I don't pay? If there's a slight risk then I would certainly pay the 56 dollar fine.
Nothing they can do or proof. They just bark, I had 2 tickets , one parking in Ein Gedi and the other from a traffic light camera, they sent to my Jerusalem address and then through an Israeli collection agency operating in the US, that was 2 years ago , I never responded.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: hide4 on November 03, 2017, 06:22:41 AM
Just got 2 parking tickets on an Avis rental. To pay or not? 100 Shek each.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 15, 2017, 11:06:58 AM
Someone got a parking ticket on an Eldan rental car.  Can someone confirm that Eldan doesn't pay and bill the renter?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 15, 2017, 12:34:37 PM
ok so for all those that got tickets in Jerusalem, if you go online within 24 hours, you'll see that there is no mandatory amount set to the ticket yet...
you can pay 1 shekel to satisfy the ticket.
(just be sure to give a fake passport number just in case:)
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 15, 2017, 12:37:42 PM
I got an Israeli ticket from Cedar Financial in Calabasas CA as an agent for the Isaac Eilat law office. It said that Eilat send me many letters (didn't get any) and now it's been referred to their American agent.

Can I presume that it won't affect my credit if I don't pay? If there's a slight risk then I would certainly pay the 56 dollar fine.
seems like everyone I know is getting these notices from the law offices of issac Eilat!!
would love to know who he is exactly. I have gotten a bunch, asked my avis car rental agent (moish Lieberman) he said to just ignore it.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 15, 2017, 02:08:04 PM
ok so for all those that got tickets in Jerusalem, if you go online within 24 hours, you'll see that there is no mandatory amount set to the ticket yet...
you can pay 1 shekel to satisfy the ticket.
(just be sure to give a fake passport number just in case:)

The jerusalem.muni site says tickets can only be paid from 3 days after written,  I assume this exploits that?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 15, 2017, 03:10:06 PM
exactly. I have actually gotten online too early sometimes and had to wait till the next morning before it even allowed me to pay 1 shekel at all.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 15, 2017, 03:43:46 PM
crazy loophole.  How do you know it actually satisfies the ticket?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 15, 2017, 04:36:58 PM
I don't really, but it says paid and you get an email confirmation, and I did it about 6 times, never heard anything...
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: efflpetzel on November 16, 2017, 11:59:16 AM
Would this would outside of jlem
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 16, 2017, 12:24:28 PM
Would this would outside of jlem
didn't work for a dead sea ticket. the 100 shekel showed up immediately
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: ludmila on November 16, 2017, 10:26:56 PM
didn't work for a dead sea ticket. the 100 shekel showed up immediately
I got a dead sea one, paid it with fines a year later.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: David Smith on November 16, 2017, 11:51:13 PM
ok so for all those that got tickets in Jerusalem, if you go online within 24 hours, you'll see that there is no mandatory amount set to the ticket yet...
you can pay 1 shekel to satisfy the ticket.
(just be sure to give a fake passport number just in case:)
I've heard this is dead.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 17, 2017, 01:38:04 AM
I've heard this is dead.

I've done it.  How would I know if it's worked?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: hocker on November 19, 2017, 01:24:53 PM
I've done it.  How would I know if it's worked?
The car is yours or the rental companies?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 19, 2017, 01:25:30 PM
The car is yours or the rental companies?
Rented from Eldan by a family member.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: hocker on November 19, 2017, 01:27:13 PM
Just got 2 parking tickets on an Avis rental. To pay or not? 100 Shek each.
Pay it. The car rental company handling fee is almost 100shekel.
I've done it.  How would I know if it's worked?
The car is yours or the rental company's? You can call city hall or walk in their building any day before 1pm and give them the license plate # but it might tip them off.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 19, 2017, 03:44:13 PM
The car is yours or the rental company's? You can call city hall or walk in their building any day before 1pm and give them the license plate # but it might tip them off.
Rented from Eldan by a family member.

If I try and pay online it doesn't let me.  I  put in the asmachta and it says paid 1 shekel.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 20, 2017, 06:51:11 AM
Pay it. The car rental company handling fee is almost 100shekel.The car is yours or the rental company's? You can call city hall or walk in their building any day before 1pm and give them the license plate # but it might tip them off.

pls don't do that. that might just ruin it for the rest of us.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 20, 2017, 09:18:29 AM
pls don't do that. that might just ruin it for the rest of us.
I don't plan on it. Help me figure out how I can make sure Eldan won't charge the CC for the fine + service fee.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 20, 2017, 12:04:50 PM
simple. because you have 90 days to pay the ticket. eldan wont even receive a notice before then, and by then ,they don't have your credit card anymore, once they close the rental contract.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 20, 2017, 12:38:30 PM
simple. because you have 90 days to pay the ticket. eldan wont even receive a notice before then, and by then ,they don't have your credit card anymore, once they close the rental contract.

So why'd I waste a shekel?  :)

Also, @hocker claims Avis bills the credit card.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 20, 2017, 12:59:49 PM
because you don't want the notices arriving in the mail a year from now... also just a precaution. technically you do not have to pay at all youre right
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: est on November 27, 2017, 04:11:45 PM
Why can't the rental company charge you in 90 days? I just got ticket on hertz rental
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 28, 2017, 07:55:50 AM
Why can't the rental company charge you in 90 days? I just got ticket on hertz rental

@chaimdasap
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 28, 2017, 08:00:21 AM
@chaimdasap

because by then they have closed the contract, and don't have your credit card anymore. im pretty sure the same applies in the usa. I got a $73 parking ticket in LA on my hertz rental, I never got charged for.(?) (2 years ago). I think its because they don't have my credit card info anymore.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on November 28, 2017, 08:15:00 AM
because by then they have closed the contract, and don't have your credit card anymore. im pretty sure the same applies in the usa. I got a $73 parking ticket in LA on my hertz rental, I never got charged for.(?) (2 years ago). I think its because they don't have my credit card info anymore.
Thats false.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 28, 2017, 09:13:33 AM
Thats false.

So what explains the apparent fact that chaimdasap has not gotten charged by the rental companies?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on November 28, 2017, 09:28:07 AM
So what explains the apparent fact that chaimdasap has not gotten charged by the rental companies?
I have no idea why or why not they decided to charge him. Was just saying that the statement that they can't charge you anymore is entirely false.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on November 28, 2017, 09:33:15 AM
I have no idea why or why not they decided to charge him. Was just saying that the statement that they can't charge you anymore is entirely false.

Do you have expirience getting charged?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on November 28, 2017, 09:42:45 AM
Do you have expirience getting charged?
Yes.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Yosel on November 28, 2017, 10:28:08 AM
I have experience in getting charged on my chase sapphire reserve, call them dispute it and they credit u straight away the small amount as a courtesy
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on November 28, 2017, 10:29:18 AM
I have experience in getting charged on my chase sapphire reserve, call them dispute it and they credit u straight away the small amount as a courtesy
Didn't get blacklisted?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 28, 2017, 12:21:16 PM
Yes.
I asked Moish Lieberman who works IN the Avis office in Jerusalem, (king david st) about the letters that arrived at my house, he said don't bother paying it. nothing they can do. feel free to pm me for his #
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on November 28, 2017, 12:29:16 PM
I asked Moish Lieberman who works IN the Avis office in Jerusalem, (king david st) about the letters that arrived at my house, he said don't bother paying it. nothing they can do. feel free to pm me for his #
I don't care what he says, it doesn't negate experience. Are you referring to Avis specifically?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 28, 2017, 12:30:57 PM
I don't care what he says, it doesn't negate experience. Are you referring to Avis specifically?
nope, hertz too. don't have experience with other agencies.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on November 28, 2017, 12:32:58 PM
I don't care what he says, it doesn't negate experience. Are you referring to Avis specifically?
how does your experience trump mine? I have 6 tickets in my drawer which were never charged to my card from the last 3 years!
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on November 28, 2017, 12:40:31 PM
how does your experience trump mine? I have 6 tickets in my drawer which were never charged to my card from the last 3 years!
Very simple. The lack of an experience doesn't negate the possibility that it exists. The confirmation of an experience most certainly negates the possibility that it doesn't exist.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: freddy on December 13, 2017, 02:39:07 PM
Just wondering, just because not paying parking tickets won't effect us in the US does that mean that they can't take legal action against us in Israel. Such as stopping us in the airport after the debt plus interest goes above $10,000?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: ludmila on December 13, 2017, 03:21:34 PM
Just wondering, just because not paying parking tickets won't effect us in the US does that mean that they can't take legal action against us in Israel. Such as stopping us in the airport after the debt plus interest goes above $10,000?
They can stop people at the airport after court orders or judgments are issued, I know someone who was stopped at TLV and not allowed to fly for owing taxes from previous years, not sure if traffic or parking tickets are the same.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on December 13, 2017, 04:30:28 PM
ouch that sucks. can you verify if that was because of a court order/judgement, or just a plain ticket?
theres a pretty big difference.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: freddy on December 13, 2017, 08:20:53 PM
ouch that sucks. can you verify if that was because of a court order/judgement, or just a plain ticket?
theres a pretty big difference.
Can't they stop you for any debt that's large enough?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: ludmila on December 13, 2017, 11:24:17 PM
ouch that sucks. can you verify if that was because of a court order/judgement, or just a plain ticket?
theres a pretty big difference.
He owed taxes that were not paid the previous year, it was not because of a ticket. He is a dentist with a practice in Indianapolis and Telaviv, has both Israeli and USA passports .
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on December 14, 2017, 12:44:06 AM
I have about 20 parking tickets that I got in Israel from 7 years ago till last year and never paid any of them. Neither did I get charged on my cc.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: JewJitSew on December 26, 2017, 07:23:33 AM
yup
Is this still the practice? Parking tickets from Jerusalem muni can be ignored in an Avis rental?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: chaimdasap on December 27, 2017, 03:18:05 PM
Is this still the practice? Parking tickets from Jerusalem muni can be ignored in an Avis rental?
did you just quote someone from January 2015?;))
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: JewJitSew on December 28, 2017, 03:47:04 AM
Pretty much. Anyone have recent experience on this however?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: David Smith on December 28, 2017, 05:38:34 AM
I have about 20 parking tickets that I got in Israel from 7 years ago till last year and never paid any of them. Neither did I get charged on my cc.
I got charged on cards I forgot to cancel after rental.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on December 28, 2017, 05:42:41 AM
I got charged on cards I forgot to cancel after rental.
I haven't even cancelled all the cards I rented on and never got charged.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: JewJitSew on January 01, 2018, 12:32:46 PM
I haven't even cancelled all the cards I rented on and never got charged.
How recent were your tickets?

I received a couple in Jerusalem and then one in Yaffo on this trip.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on January 01, 2018, 12:41:19 PM
How recent were your tickets?

I received a couple in Jerusalem and then one in Yaffo on this trip.
The most recent one was about a year and half to 2 years ago as far as 7 years ago.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: nafnaf12 on January 09, 2018, 03:19:31 PM
A little off topic just wasn't sure where to post.

Got a ticket for driving in the bus lane with a tus-tus
Registerd on my brothers name
I gave them my brothers passport #
So on the ticket it says my name and my NY DL # but my brothers passport number.

Do I have to pay the ticket?wanting can they connect to dots?
If yes would paying online 1 nis work?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: nafnaf12 on January 09, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
Israeli or foreign passport? if foreign, I wouldn't worry.
foreign passport.
Is it a problem that the ticket is attached to the tus-tus which is also on the same passport? Or because the name doesn't match..
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shapsam on January 22, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Just got bills from a collection agency in the mail for a ticket that one family member got in December 2016 and for a ticket that another family member got in August 2017.??
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: sammy n on January 23, 2018, 12:38:37 AM
Just got bills from a collection agency in the mail for a ticket that one family member got in December 2016 and for a ticket that another family member got in August 2017.??
Just toss it in the bin.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: shiframeir on January 28, 2018, 03:37:33 AM
I have no idea why or why not they decided to charge him. Was just saying that the statement that they can't charge you anymore is entirely false.
R Emkay, earlier on this thread you seemed to say dont worry about tix, but later on seemed to say that rental car companies can charge your card under their policies, have u experienced that (and if they do how much do they charge)? Asking about a 500 shek unfair parking ticket on a europcar (albar). 
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: David Smith on January 28, 2018, 04:27:54 AM
R Emkay, earlier on this thread you seemed to say dont worry about tix, but later on seemed to say that rental car companies can charge your card under their policies, have u experienced that (and if they do how much do they charge)? Asking about a 500 shek unfair parking ticket on a europcar (albar).
I think they always charge you, whether you pay the ticket or not. (Maybe they always assume you didn't pay. I would be surprised if a penny of what they charge you gets forwarded to the city.)

I try to rent on a spare card, and report it as lost right after the rental. I usually have a new (Chase) card within 72-96 hours of it being reported lost and a new card being overnighted.

I have a rental that I didn't get around to cancelling card (I don't think I even got any tickets on that rental) and months later I noticed that there were a bunch of charges ranging from $20-$100 on the card from the rental agency. As long as they have your active card, they feel free to take money from you when they're in the mood.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on January 28, 2018, 04:49:49 AM
R Emkay, earlier on this thread you seemed to say dont worry about tix, but later on seemed to say that rental car companies can charge your card under their policies, have u experienced that (and if they do how much do they charge)? Asking about a 500 shek unfair parking ticket on a europcar (albar).
They won't charge the ticket price, they may charge a processing fee of 100 shekels for telling the city that they can't chase you. That's the case with most car rentals here.
Not charging you doesn't mean they can't.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on January 28, 2018, 04:51:24 AM


As long as they have your active card, they feel free to take money from you when they're in the mood.
This is false but doesnt matter, as long as it sounds juicy and properly cynical.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: B.D.Da'ehu on January 28, 2018, 04:57:26 AM
This is false but doesnt matter, as long as it sounds juicy and properly cynical.
The pot calling the kettle black, much? :P
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: David Smith on January 28, 2018, 05:09:49 AM
This is false but doesnt matter, as long as it sounds juicy and properly cynical.
I can post screenshots later, if that'll make you happy. Your assertion was properly cynical, though; I'll grant that.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on January 28, 2018, 05:10:56 AM
I can post screenshots later, if that'll make you happy. Your assertion was properly cynical, though; I'll grant that.
Screenshots mean little but I didn't doubt you got charged, I left that out of my quote.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: David Smith on January 28, 2018, 05:20:26 AM
Screenshots mean little but I didn't doubt you got charged, I left that out of my quote.
Across multiple cards, rentals, and agencies.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Emkay on January 28, 2018, 05:21:56 AM
Across multiple cards, rentals, and agencies.
I'd venture to say the smell is in you.
You don't find that funny that every agency charges you all the time while 99% of people don't get extra charges months later?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Pesach on September 29, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
are the car rental companies responsible for paying the tickets if the previous renter cancels his credit card? are the car rental owners Jewish? and who sends the tickets to collections the rental company or  the city?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: hocker on October 03, 2018, 04:47:18 AM
are the car rental companies responsible for paying the tickets if the previous renter cancels his credit card? are the car rental owners Jewish? and who sends the tickets to collections the rental company or  the city?
City. The only thing you're stiffing them out of is  their processing fee to give over your name to the city which is in your contract.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on February 13, 2019, 08:49:30 AM
I got 1000 shekel ticket and 8 points for holding my cellphone while driving.

What are the implications of points?

Anyone have experience getting fine and/or points reduced for a first offence?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 13, 2019, 05:34:35 PM
I got 1000 shekel ticket and 8 points for holding my cellphone while driving.

What are the implications of points?

Anyone have experience getting fine and/or points reduced for a first offence?
ticket on a usa license?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch999 on February 14, 2019, 02:45:31 AM
Nope, Israeli license.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 14, 2019, 03:29:52 AM
Nope, Israeli license.
dono. speak to israeli lawyer
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: dealben on May 08, 2019, 11:14:37 PM
I got an Israeli ticket from Cedar Financial in Calabasas CA as an agent for the Isaac Eilat law office. It said that Eilat send me many letters (didn't get any) and now it's been referred to their American agent.
I had a similar experience. I got a few letters like these over the last 2-3 years, about a few parking tickets. Ignored them and haven't heard from them for at least a year.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Pesach on October 06, 2019, 12:08:33 AM
Did anyone rent from the same rental car company after getting parking tickets in Israel on a previous rental? I am hesitant to rent from hertz or budget after getting parking tickets last year on their rental cars  and never paying them. also, have people got stopped by passport control or customs for not paying the tickets?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on October 06, 2019, 06:23:27 PM
Did anyone rent from the same rental car company after getting parking tickets in Israel on a previous rental? I am hesitant to rent from hertz or budget after getting parking tickets last year on their rental cars  and never paying them. also, have people got stopped by passport control or customs for not paying the tickets?
done that tens of times if not more. never had any issue at car rental or at border control
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: bruce on December 01, 2019, 04:52:13 PM
I got a handicapped parking ticket for 1000 shekel in a very unclear handicapped space. Does anyone have experience fighting via email or other? I have pics and vids to support. Is there anyone to talk to?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on December 02, 2019, 01:12:24 AM
I got a handicapped parking ticket for 1000 shekel in a very unclear handicapped space. Does anyone have experience fighting via email or other? I have pics and vids to support. Is there anyone to talk to?
u can write a letter to the iriyah. if u make a sob story out of it its likely to help
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch Parnes on December 02, 2019, 01:53:45 AM
u can write a letter to the iriyah. if u make a sob story out of it its likely to help
english usually helps out
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: skohn2619 on February 12, 2020, 09:15:57 AM
i received 4 tickets totalling 2000 NIS that was processed to the iriyah by the rental company.

will i have issues at border control if the fines continue continue to rise due to interest?

ignore or pay?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 12, 2020, 02:19:53 PM
i received 4 tickets totalling 2000 NIS that was processed to the iriyah by the rental company.

will i have issues at border control if the fines continue continue to rise due to interest?

ignore or pay?
ignore
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Yehuda25 on February 12, 2020, 03:07:43 PM
ignore
why don't they just bill the renters cc?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: menachemd1 on February 12, 2020, 03:13:50 PM
There is trick to avoid charges from the rental company by just paying online a small portion like $1 and they will leave you off the hook
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: skohn2619 on February 12, 2020, 03:20:29 PM
cc was canceled.

what's this trick?

the bill is from from iriyah
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: menachemd1 on February 12, 2020, 03:27:25 PM
You pay a small amount on iriyah's website
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: jmz on February 12, 2020, 04:18:37 PM
You pay a small amount on iriyah's website
tried this once about 6 months ago and didnt work. maybe didnt do something right
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 12, 2020, 05:35:50 PM
why don't they just bill the renters cc?
if they passed the ticket on to the iriyah, who is gonna charge the cc? iriyah cant do that
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 12, 2020, 05:37:21 PM
cc was canceled.

what's this trick?

the bill is from from iriyah
if cc is cancelled whats to worry about?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Luvisrael on February 12, 2020, 07:09:09 PM
tried this once about 6 months ago and didnt work. maybe didnt do something right
i heard u have to do it immediately
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: skohn2619 on February 14, 2020, 11:27:44 AM
they are still trying to collect.

not sue, can you try tracking you with your passport number?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch Parnes on February 17, 2020, 08:16:43 PM
Friend got speeding camera ticket on cousins car got points and 3000 shekel fine any way out?  Any ideas? 
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: buchir on February 17, 2020, 09:34:06 PM
Friend got speeding camera ticket on cousins car got points and 3000 shekel fine any way out?  Any ideas?
You could get away with the points if a foreign citizen claims he was driving while speeding.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch Parnes on February 17, 2020, 09:35:27 PM
You could get away with the points if a foreign citizen claims he was driving while speeding.
they only let him sign on the points after he pays the fine  anyway out of the fine?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: buchir on February 17, 2020, 09:38:40 PM
they only let him sign on the points after he pays the fine  anyway out of the fine?
Iím sure there are lawyers (Israel has an overload of them).
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: Boruch Parnes on February 17, 2020, 09:42:30 PM
Iím sure there are lawyers (Israel has an overload of them).
know of any?
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on February 18, 2020, 01:53:12 AM
they only let him sign on the points after he pays the fine  anyway out of the fine?
as of a few years ago u didnt have to first pay
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: hocker on September 29, 2020, 06:16:02 AM
they only let him sign on the points after he pays the fine  anyway out of the fine?
Usually they don't collect the fine either.
Title: Re: parking tickets in israel on rented car
Post by: m65 on September 29, 2020, 11:19:17 AM
Usually they don't collect the fine either.
+1