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Title: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 01, 2010, 06:30:44 PM
Edit by Eli: Click here to read my trip reports on Beijing. It's chock full of info (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1070.msg8010#msg8010)

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as for Beijing heres a good site to see it all with them in 2 days ,I did itand it was very good (i did the 1st 2 small group tours) http://sinohotelguide.com/travel/index.php

I dont think you need a guide for 2 days. 1 day is more then enough, the second day you can do yourself. I have a very good guide, if needed I will post contact details. 400 RMB for 8 hours. You decide were to go and the speed. After a day with a guide, you will want to spend some time without.

If you are not major into history and care about every little detail, then you can see Beijing in a day. (we got up 8 am) Use the second day to go to mutaniyu part of the wall. Dont go to Badaling, its closer but very crowded, since its attached to public transportation. Check my tripreport on Beijing, we did it in about the same time u have
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 07:32:52 AM
can't find an official beijing master thread,so i'm starting one,correct me if i'm wrong:)any specific must see;s?best tour guides? i've read about the chabad restaurant,dini's,sounds great! we plan on spending shbbos at the st. regis next to chabad of downtown,we are going to need a non-jew to bring my daughter in her carriage on shabbos from hotel to chabad,we plan on staying at the st.regis,seems like the hotel is afraid of sending one of their staff to walk with us,any recommendations?also,sounds like an airport pickup would be a big help? thanks and sorry if i missed another thread,a bit new here:)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2010, 07:56:15 AM
speak to the chabad rabbi. hes a nice guy and his goyta brought our baby
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 10:36:16 AM
the rabbi isn't there currently,seems they have a replacement,no luck getting thru yet,i'll try,thanks!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 10:37:19 AM
Edit by Eli: Click here to read my trip reports on Beijing. It's chock full of info (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1070.msg8010#msg8010)

I dont think you need a guide for 2 days. 1 day is more then enough, the second day you can do yourself. I have a very good guide, if needed I will post contact details. 400 RMB for 8 hours. You decide were to go and the speed. After a day with a guide, you will want to spend some time without.

If you are not major into history and care about every little detail, then you can see Beijing in a day. (we got up 8 am) Use the second day to go to mutaniyu part of the wall. Dont go to Badaling, its closer but very crowded, since its attached to public transportation. Check my tripreport on Beijing, we did it in about the same time u have
          do you have the contact info for your tour guide?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 10:38:49 AM
Edit by Eli: Click here to read my trip reports on Beijing. It's chock full of info (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1070.msg8010#msg8010)

I dont think you need a guide for 2 days. 1 day is more then enough, the second day you can do yourself. I have a very good guide, if needed I will post contact details. 400 RMB for 8 hours. You decide were to go and the speed. After a day with a guide, you will want to spend some time without.

If you are not major into history and care about every little detail, then you can see Beijing in a day. (we got up 8 am) Use the second day to go to mutaniyu part of the wall. Dont go to Badaling, its closer but very crowded, since its attached to public transportation. Check my tripreport on Beijing, we did it in about the same time u have
we also have a one year old,so that should slow us down a bit,although me and my wife like moving quick!
Title: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 03, 2011, 06:35:47 AM
I'm going to be in Beijing for 3 days and would appreciate some help/thoughts on what to do and see. Only really able to use 2 being one is Shabbos.

From what I've seen, the most famous and must-dos are:
-Great Wall
-Forbidden City
-Summer Palace
-Tian'anmen Square
-Temple of Heaven (are you allowed to go in al pi halacha?)
-Silk, Pearl and Yaxiu Markets (all or one?)

Any other suggestions or would you take out one (or more) of the above?

As far as hotels go, looks like it will be the Westin on C&P. Right near Chabad an added bonus.

There's also Terra Cotta Warriors in Xian but I think it might be too far to fit in...
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 03, 2011, 07:16:42 PM
i dont think you can go to temple of heaven. i completely skipped it to the dismay of my tour guide. i would also recommend seeing the pandas at the zoo.
being that you only have a friday and a sunday, you should absolutely forget about xi'an

oh, and i also checked out chairman mao
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 03, 2011, 07:20:03 PM
i dont think you can go to temple of heaven. i completely skipped it to the dismay of my tour guide. i would also recommend seeing the pandas at the zoo.
being that you only have a friday and a sunday, you should absolutely forget about xi'an

oh, and i also checked out chairman mao
Figured as much.

Do you recommend a tour guide and/or driver?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 03, 2011, 07:33:47 PM
i do recommend and i can give you a good one.
especally with the limited time, you dont want to waste it trying to figure out which thing the book is referring to
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 03, 2011, 07:36:55 PM
i also recommend watching a performance at the drum tower
also the nightly acrobat shows were amazing
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 13, 2012, 02:51:31 PM
Anyone have any suggestions for a one day itinerary arriving early morning (6:30am) leaving 9:00pm... We want to see some part of the wall, and I guess 2-3 of the main sites tiananmen square, forbidden city ?! any other suggestions?  Must sees/dos?

I was offered a reliable driver for 1000 RMB pick up and drop off from airport including all stops is that decent?

We would like to visit a market or two and get some eats at Dini's.. Any help greatly appreciated.

(we're not interested in long and boring historical tours...)

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2012, 07:05:52 AM
For the driver, 1000 isn't bad but its not the cheapest. I think I paid 700-800 for a full day (8am-9pm).

I would do the wall in the morning as it will be less crowded. As mentioned Badaling is the most visited so you may want to avoid it.
Mutianyu is much less crowded and a nice stretch. (Wear comfy shoes, its quite the hike)

Tiananmen Square is just a massive square, nothing much to do except walk around.

Forbidden City is just across the road from the square.
I found it very interesting but some do find it just more of the same thing (it kind of is. Amazing how many rooms can be used
for one persons needs)

Summer Palace was also nice. Its a bit of a drive IIRC but you can probably do it in the early afternoon.

Olympic Park is cool, even just for a pic with the Birds Nest Stadium and the Cube swimming center if that interests you. But probably not something id do if pressed for time.

There are tons of markets. Don't think you'll get to the night one. Silk Market is great for real fakes. There's also the Pearl market and the antique market amongst others.

Kung Fu show was incredible but with leaving at 8, don't think you'll make it.

Dini's is good food and the Rabbi and Rebbetzin are really nice!
If you're so inclined, you can go for shachris and have breakfast there afterwards.

Just leave time for things as in the city there can be traffic. I'm sure the driver can help you with that.

I really shouldve written a TR...

If you have any questions, please ask and I will answer to the best of my abilities.

And pray for a clear day...
Photo from Seth Miller
(http://boardingarea.com/blogs/thewanderingaramean/files/2011/11/IMGP4170_thumb.jpg)
And what it really looks like,
(http://www.mutianyugreatwall.net/uploads/image/Site3.jpg)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 15, 2012, 09:28:23 AM
Tiananmen Square is just a massive square, nothing much to do except walk around
you can visit chairmen mao there as well
Kung Fu show was incredible but with leaving at 8, don't think you'll make it.
i think 'incredible' is pushing it.

you can also visit the zoo to see the giant pandas, and i also enjoyed a drumming performance at the drum tower
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2012, 10:16:19 AM
you can visit chairmen mao there as welli think 'incredible' is pushing it.

you can also visit the zoo to see the giant pandas, and i also enjoyed a drumming performance at the drum tower
Right, I forgot I did that as well.

You can also walk around the old streets of the village near the drum tower as well.

How much you can do in a day really depends on how fast you move and how long you spend in each place.
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 31, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Anything to do at night?

And can someone recommend a driver/guide?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 31, 2012, 11:58:48 AM
Anything to do at night?

And can someone recommend a driver/guide?
Check out Back Lake at night. Lots happening and fun to walk around
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: brytch on July 31, 2012, 12:03:43 PM
personally very disappointed with beijing.. spent a day there and saw the great wall.. otherwise I was quite happy I didn't stay there any longer... much prefer HK, anywhere in Thailand or vietnam...
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 31, 2012, 12:08:30 PM
personally very disappointed with beijing.. spent a day there and saw the great wall.. otherwise I was quite happy I didn't stay there any longer... much prefer HK, anywhere in Thailand or vietnam...

All depends on what you are looking for. To me, Beijing is one of the few places left that you can go where people and culture are so different than ours. IMHO Hong Kong is just like any other large metropolis with nicer hotels
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: brytch on July 31, 2012, 12:57:36 PM
I just didn't care for the city. too big for my liking, lacking in culture.. didn't feel very different from lots of other  western cities/capitals.. huge streets, clean for the most part, found it kinda boring. I enjoyed HK more.. but just my personal preference.

Went to the Silk market, found it to be a total waste of time, my memories from Shenzhen 10 years ago were much better. Tiananmen square and forbidden city didn't catch my eye..

I highly recommend Southeastern asia over beijing.. (Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam..)
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 01, 2012, 08:01:02 AM
St Regis Beijing is awesome if you can get it on C&P's.
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 01, 2012, 08:04:51 AM
St Regis Beijing is awesome if you can get it on C&P's.
Regular rate is $280, so it's not such a big difference. What do u like about it so much?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 01, 2012, 08:15:40 AM
Regular rate is $280, so it's not such a big difference. What do u like about it so much?
That's like saying regular rate for JFK-LAX RT is $300 ...

Guess it depends when you go. When I was there it was more like $320/night.

Even at $280, 4,800 SPG+$90 is a very good deal.

Its a beautiful hotel and the service (specifically the butler service) was impeccable.

Plus, loved the location for shabbos just around the corner from the downtown Chabad House.
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 01, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
What did the butlers do for you?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 17, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
I just didn't care for the city. too big for my liking, lacking in culture.. didn't feel very different from lots of other  western cities/capitals.. huge streets, clean for the most part, found it kinda boring. I enjoyed HK more.. but just my personal preference.

Went to the Silk market, found it to be a total waste of time, my memories from Shenzhen 10 years ago were much better. Tiananmen square and forbidden city didn't catch my eye..

I highly recommend Southeastern asia over beijing.. (Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam..)
i guess taam varayach...
i enjoyed beijing far more than hk. maybe you didnt give it enough time...
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 09, 2013, 09:43:25 AM
anyone know where i could get the best knock offs?? is bejing cheaper then hk??
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 09, 2013, 09:44:20 AM
i do recommend and i can give you a good one.
especally with the limited time, you dont want to waste it trying to figure out which thing the book is referring to
if u could get me that drivers number i would very much appreciate it
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on April 09, 2013, 12:36:11 PM
I use a car service +8613051258776

They are unofficial but good service and prices.
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 26, 2013, 01:39:25 AM
I am landing at 1:45 pm and departing at 1:15 am, what can and should I do during my layover?

Can I go to the wall of china with the 72 hours transit visa from Beijing?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on April 26, 2013, 02:15:02 AM
I am landing at 1:45 pm and departing at 1:15 am, what can and should I do during my layover?

Can I go to the wall of china with the 72 hours transit visa from Beijing?

The wall of China was like 2 hours from Bejing.
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 27, 2013, 04:18:57 PM
I am landing at 1:45 pm and departing at 1:15 am, what can and should I do during my layover?

Can I go to the wall of china with the 72 hours transit visa from Beijing?


plenty of time to see the wall.. I had a similar stop, hired a taxi who was recommended on TA and he took us around all day.. great service and reliable...

Here's his contact details and some itinerary he did for me:

yellowcar John <johnyellowcar@hotmail.com>

Thank you for your email. I am very glad to heard that you want to book my car for your trip in Beijing !

Yes,actuallyt, I am still free on July 5!!

This is my suggestion for you :

I wii pick you up from the airport first ,then go to the Great Wall at Mutianyu and also do some seeings in the city for you .I will try to take you to see more things during the day !

I do this job10 years and I drove taxi 9 years before,so,I am a native,I know my city very well,I will be a good driver for you .

The price will be 1000 rmb for everything (gas,toll,parking) except ticket and food.

You can also see some my good reocmmendtions from : www.tripadvisor.com and www.youtube.com !
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 27, 2013, 09:43:47 PM
plenty of time to see the wall.. I had a similar stop, hired a taxi who was recommended on TA and he took us around all day.. great service and reliable...

Here's his contact details and some itinerary he did for me:

yellowcar John <johnyellowcar@hotmail.com>

Thank you for your email. I am very glad to heard that you want to book my car for your trip in Beijing !

Yes,actuallyt, I am still free on July 5!!

This is my suggestion for you :

I wii pick you up from the airport first ,then go to the Great Wall at Mutianyu and also do some seeings in the city for you .I will try to take you to see more things during the day !

I do this job10 years and I drove taxi 9 years before,so,I am a native,I know my city very well,I will be a good driver for you .

The price will be 1000 rmb for everything (gas,toll,parking) except ticket and food.

You can also see some my good reocmmendtions from : www.tripadvisor.com and www.youtube.com !
Thanks that sounds amazing! What else did you see? Also are there any kosher restaurants worth stopping in to?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: ual902 on April 27, 2013, 10:01:42 PM
http://www.kosherbeijing.com
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 28, 2013, 01:14:11 AM
this driver took us to chabad kosher restaurant inside a park... very nice worth a visit..
This driver speaks a great english... will do anything for you... took us to the silk market, to all the squares etc..

highly recommended
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 29, 2013, 01:55:11 AM
this driver took us to chabad kosher restaurant inside a park... very nice worth a visit..
This driver speaks a great english... will do anything for you... took us to the silk market, to all the squares etc..

highly recommended
Gonna email the driver thanks. Was it a nice car? A van?

Is Dini's restaurant the one that you went to?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 12, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
After some research it seems that the only kosher restaurant in Beijing, which is called Dini's is now located in the Chabad house. Is the Chabad house out of things and far from the main tourist sights?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 12, 2013, 07:54:43 PM
After some research it seems that the only kosher restaurant in Beijing, which is called Dini's is now located in the Chabad house. Is the Chabad house out of things and far from the main tourist sights?

Its a bit far but you can stay at the Westin Chaoyang which is nearby

Food there is very good
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 12, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
Its a bit far but you can stay at the Westin Chaoyang which is nearby

Food there is very good
We are not staying overnight. We land at 145pm and leave at 1:15 am. They close at 930 pm. Does it  make sense to go?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 13, 2013, 01:49:53 AM
I think i read somewere that with the transit visa you are not allowed to leave the City, so technical it might be illegal to visit the wall
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 13, 2013, 02:18:41 AM
I think i read somewere that with the transit visa you are not allowed to leave the City, so technical it might be illegal to visit the wall
I read that too, that you are only allowed in the city, but it seems that everyone goes to the wall on transit visas without any issues.
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on June 14, 2013, 01:37:28 PM
Anyone have a trip report to China for 6-8 days? Best Hotels? Food? Attractions and or trips?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: AI-TRAVEL on October 04, 2013, 02:34:43 AM
anybody have any ideas for shabbos?
Title: Re: Beijing, China Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 04, 2013, 04:51:01 AM
anybody have any ideas for shabbos?
there are 2 chabads that host shabbos last i remember
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on February 23, 2014, 08:23:33 AM
anyone know of a good tailor in Beijing?
or am i much better off finding one in hong kong?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on February 23, 2014, 01:10:57 PM
Hong Kong is better
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on February 23, 2014, 01:16:57 PM
Hong Kong is better
tx
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on March 27, 2014, 01:00:32 PM
Is now considered peak season?
Ie. Will the regular place at the wall (badaling) be crowded- and should go to mutaniyu?

How far is either one from downtown chabad area?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on March 29, 2014, 11:44:19 AM
Can anyone recommend a driver on Beijing to get to wall at metayahu from chabad area (dinis)?

Also How long is it? And how much should it cost?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: lybbtthl on April 06, 2014, 03:21:07 PM
How long does the immigration and customs typically take when using the 72hr Visa (I have an Australian passport)? I land from Warsaw at 6:35am, I'm not collecting luggage as my connection departs at 3:25pm on Air China. When can I expect to be out of the airport and what do I have time for? I'd like to go to the Great Wall as well as the kosher restaurant, will there be enough time? what else might I have time for?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on April 11, 2014, 02:24:47 PM
How long does the immigration and customs typically take when using the 72hr Visa (I have an Australian passport)? I land from Warsaw at 6:35am, I'm not collecting luggage as my connection departs at 3:25pm on Air China. When can I expect to be out of the airport and what do I have time for? I'd like to go to the Great Wall as well as the kosher restaurant, will there be enough time? what else might I have time for?
I only did customs once, but didn't take any longer then anywhere else I've been.
I would say you do have time to see the wall and go to restaurant, but not much more then that.

Assuming you'l be out by 7:30, to get to wall took us about 1.5 hr (maybe a little longer from airport), we couldn't leave the wall before at least an hr, and back to restaurant about 1.5 hr.(think were holding at about 12pm), eat about an hr (not the fastest service there- but good food), and back to airport takes about 40min. IME
you do have a little more time to play with (esp if you order your food from restaurant by phone beforehand), but IMO not worth it to push in the forbidden city in that time. Maybe you can go to market a little. if not interested then the drum tower was nice.

hope this helps you.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on April 12, 2014, 06:09:19 PM
Once you are in beijing, why go to a kosher restaurant, go to forbidden city instead. Not worth missing it unless you come back soon over some food
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: MnM1130 on July 24, 2014, 01:24:58 PM
what is the cheapest way to fly to Beijing with points?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on September 22, 2014, 12:09:19 AM
I'm looking at doing a trip across Asia in the winter. Is Beijing too cold to visit at the end of January? I'm looking to be there 2-3 days.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on September 22, 2014, 12:38:32 AM
I'm looking at doing a trip across Asia in the winter. Is Beijing too cold to visit at the end of January? I'm looking to be there 2-3 days.
Bring a coat.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on September 22, 2014, 09:47:49 AM
Bring a coat.
I know that it will be cold and I would obviously bring a coat. My question is if it is absolutely freezing and I won't enjoy it, or just mild.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on September 22, 2014, 06:56:13 PM
i went in march, and it was freezing by the great wall. i heard that the week prior, it was so cold people didnt even go
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: miles lover on September 23, 2014, 04:44:21 AM
I'm looking at doing a trip across Asia in the winter. Is Beijing too cold to visit at the end of January? I'm looking to be there 2-3 days.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=average+monthly+weather+in+Beijing+China
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ChAiM'l on September 23, 2014, 09:15:54 AM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=average+monthly+weather+in+Beijing+China
Genius! Why didn't I think of that?! ::)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on October 01, 2014, 02:04:03 PM
What have been the best flights to china? Which airline? What class? and from where?

Thank you,
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 01, 2014, 02:06:39 PM
What have been the best flights to china? Which airline? What class? and from where?

Thank you,

Hainan is a 5 star airline on skytrax.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on October 01, 2014, 02:10:06 PM
Hainan is a 5 star airline on skytrax.
thanks, where does it commonly leave from?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 01, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
thanks, where does it commonly leave from?

Boston, Chicago, Seattle & Toronto to PEK.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: mordyl19 on October 01, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
Boston, Chicago, Seattle & Toronto to PEK.
Ok thanks. Do you know of any other quality flights from LGA, JFK, or Atl?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on October 02, 2014, 06:59:23 PM
Ok thanks. Do you know of any other quality flights from LGA, JFK, or Atl?

There will be soon a good one, starting in the middle of november. - http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=33867.msg931228#msg931228.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: yosseld on November 30, 2014, 10:49:53 AM
I am looking for a reliable and cheap visa service to get my Chinese visa. I know for NYers, its as simple as walking into the consulate. I live in Florida and we are required to use the Houston office.

Anyone have any recommendations of a company/person which can get it done properly and at a reasonable price?

TIA
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on January 15, 2015, 04:32:10 PM
Would I be crazy to take a flight EWR-PEK that would get me into Beijing 2 hours before Shabbat?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: sky121 on January 15, 2015, 04:35:23 PM
Would I be crazy to take a flight EWR-PEK that would get me into Beijing 2 hours before Shabbat?
Wouldn't take such a flight even if you paid me. So I'd say, yes.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on January 15, 2015, 04:37:40 PM
Wouldn't take such a flight even if you paid me. So I'd say, yes.

oh well.. it was fun to think about $500 r/t chicago to beijing but stupid dates
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on January 15, 2015, 04:45:45 PM
Would I be crazy to take a flight EWR-PEK that would get me into Beijing 2 hours before Shabbat?
Horrible idea.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on January 15, 2015, 04:50:43 PM

Horrible idea.

Yea, I figured.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Einstein on March 16, 2015, 05:50:44 PM
Can anybody advise me on the best miles to to get to Beijing? (from nyc)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on March 17, 2015, 03:28:09 AM
How bad is it to go to the Great Wall on a 72 hour visa!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 21, 2015, 11:29:46 PM
How far is the Grand Hyatt and Park Hyatt from the Chabad?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: mikel1 on March 23, 2015, 04:25:01 AM
what is the best airline to use points with to fly within china.. from bejing to Guangzhou for example.. I know air china flies there and it would cost 15K with points with united... any other good ideas.. (too bad I can't use avios..)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 23, 2015, 07:40:50 AM

what is the best airline to use points with to fly within china.. from bejing to Guangzhou for example.. I know air china flies there and it would cost 15K with points with united... any other good ideas.. (too bad I can't use avios..)

I believe AC Aeroplan and Korean are both 40k roundtrip.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: mikel1 on March 23, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
so what do you guys thinks is the best option.. I bought the AA price mistake business class tickets to Bejing and I would like to go to Guangzhou, People's Republic of China (CAN), would you pay 500 dollars, or 30K on united rt or any other airline you would recommend?

THANK!@!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on March 23, 2015, 02:01:23 PM
so what do you guys thinks is the best option.. I bought the AA price mistake business class tickets to Bejing and I would like to go to Guangzhou, People's Republic of China (CAN), would you pay 500 dollars, or 30K on united rt or any other airline you would recommend?

THANK!@!
30k RT is not J...
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on March 23, 2015, 02:40:10 PM

I believe AC Aeroplan and Korean are both 40k roundtrip.
Sorry meant 20k rt
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: mikel1 on March 23, 2015, 03:57:03 PM
Thanks!! I saw ac aeroplan has it for 20K rt!! thanks.. will book...

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on March 23, 2015, 08:41:14 PM
Thanks!! I saw ac aeroplan has it for 20K rt!! thanks.. will book...
Cash price is usually $100 or less each way.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2015, 05:33:53 PM
Assuming the various chabads (is it 2 or 3, can't tell) in PEK host shabbas, which would you recommend and why?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 01, 2015, 05:45:09 PM

Assuming the various chabads (is it 2 or 3, can't tell) in PEK host shabbas, which would you recommend and why?

I emailed them a week ago. Here are the emails. In .

There are 2. One downtown and the one listed below. I'm staying near the downtown one.
 
"The following hotels are all within 20 minutes walking distance to the Bet Yaakov Chabad House.
 
Marriot North East Hotel (5 star) 15 minutes walk – weekends Rmb 1,000+15% weekdays Rmb1100+15%
Tel: 5927 8888
Crown Plaza Beijing Lidu (5 star), 10 minutes walk-850 RMB net per night
Tel: 6437 3388
Traders Upper East Hotel(4 star) 5 minutes walk, Opposite to Chabad House-750+15% RMB per night
Tel: 5907 8888
Rosedale hotel (Chinese 4 star) 5 minutes walk – Rmb 450, above 7 F, Rmb 500-550, 3F-6F Business room
Tel: 5960 2288
Metro park hotel (4 star) 10-15 minute’s walk – Rmb450, with rooms on 1st floor
Tel: 6437 6688
Boyue Beijing Hotel (4/5 star) 20 minutes walk –weekend Rmb 900 NET
Tel: 6468 9999
Starway Premier # 8 hotel (3 star ) 20 minute’s walk – Rmb 488 lowest
Tel: 8451 7788
Han Ting Hotel, 2 star, 312 RMB per night, 266 RMB per night with no window, lowest to 183 RMB per night in the basement with public bathroom, 5 minutes’ walk, Tel: 6435 8999
 
The hotel prices listed above are special rates that Chabad Beijing has organized with these hotels and are for standard rooms only. If you require a deluxe room or a suite please specify this request in your email.
 
Here is a link for the map with all the hotels and Chabad House located:
http://www.chabadbeijing.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/66487/jewish/Address-Map.htm

Please let us know which hotel you prefer including your name (as it appears on your passport) and the dates of your check in and departure and we will be more than happy to make the reservation for you.
 
Restaurant information
 
We have two Mehadrin kosher restaurants located in the Chabad House that are under the strict supervision of Rabbi Shimon Freundlich with a full time Mashgiach.
 
1. Dini’s kosher restaurant (meat - Glatt)
2. Café Miniature (dairy – Cholov Yisroel)
 
Opening hours for Dini’s kosher restaurant; Sunday through Thursday 9am – 9:30pm (last order is 9:00pm) Friday and Saturday night – closed.
 
Opening hours for Café Miniature; Sunday and Monday 8am-4pm; Tuesday through Thursday 10am – 4pm and Friday 8am-2pm; Saturday night – 45 minutes after Shabbat ends.
 
The restaurant delivers food to any hotel in Beijing and around china. For more information or to place an order please email dinikosherbeijing@gmail.com or call the restaurant at 86-10-64388802 or 86-13910740109.
 
Shabbat meals
 
You are more than welcome to join us for Shabbat meals and we look forward to hosting you.
 
For Shabbat meal reservations please email Sofia at dinikosherbeijing@gmail.com
 or call the restaurant at +8613910740109.
 
It is 300 RMB each for Shabbat dinner and 200 RMB each for Shabbat lunch.
You can pay cash at Dini’s kosher restaurant in advance.
 
Here is a link for lighting candles time, minyan is about 5 minutes later:
http://www.chabadbeijing.com/calendar/candlelighting_cdo/aid/6226/jewish/Candle-Lighting.htm
 
Minyanim
 
Currently we have minyanim Friday through Monday.
 
Friday Morning - 7:30am followed by breakfast
Shabbat Mincha - 5 minutes after candle lighting followed by kabalat Shabbat and Shabbat meal
Shabbat Morning - 11am followed by Shabbat lunch
Shabbat afternoon Mincha – an hour and ten minutes before Shabbat ends followed by Seudat shlishit
Sunday morning – 8am followed by breakfast
Monday morning – 7:30am followed by breakfast
 
If you need to say kaddish and would like us to organize or make sure there will be a minyan on the days listed above or on any another days please email us."


Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2015, 05:45:25 PM
Of course, using the directions on Chabad's site makes it impossible to find the place.

(Why don't they simply embed a google map??)

Anyway, here is Chabad of Downtown (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chabad+Downtown+Beijing/@39.909802,116.437944,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x35f1ad234ddece29:0x7a5606c81fc42a23).

--St. Regis is a 9 min walk.
--Fairmont is a 20 min walk.
--Park Hyatt is a 27 min walk.

And here is Bet Yaakov Chabad House (https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E8%92%82%E5%A6%AE%E7%8A%B9%E5%A4%AA%E9%A4%90%E5%8E%85/@39.97061,116.477161,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x35f1aba340edc6a1:0x1c9a2c3c0a790168).

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2015, 05:46:25 PM
@Chuck - good info. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 01, 2015, 05:47:58 PM

@Chuck - good info. Thanks for posting.

No prob. When you going?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 01, 2015, 05:50:10 PM
No prob. When you going?

Planning stages... not sure if I'll end up in PEK or not yet.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 01, 2015, 05:52:23 PM

Planning stages... not sure if I'll end up in PEK or not yet.

Alrighty. Well best of luck
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 07, 2015, 02:32:11 PM
Very interesting. Seems like the 10 year chinese visa is valid on an expired passport once issued before it expired.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/d93536f6dc95f94bed004bd70fdfbdb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: DrDanny on April 07, 2015, 04:10:50 PM
Of course, using the directions on Chabad's site makes it impossible to find the place.

(Why don't they simply embed a google map??)

Anyway, here is Chabad of Downtown (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Chabad+Downtown+Beijing/@39.909802,116.437944,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x35f1ad234ddece29:0x7a5606c81fc42a23).

--St. Regis is a 9 min walk.
--Fairmont is a 20 min walk.
--Park Hyatt is a 27 min walk.

And here is Bet Yaakov Chabad House (https://www.google.com/maps/place/%E8%92%82%E5%A6%AE%E7%8A%B9%E5%A4%AA%E9%A4%90%E5%8E%85/@39.97061,116.477161,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x35f1aba340edc6a1:0x1c9a2c3c0a790168).
Cause they can't use Google products...... Be prepared to use Bing maps or something else.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 07, 2015, 05:05:48 PM
Cause they can't use Google products...... Be prepared to use Bing maps or something else.

Didnt know this. Why can't they use Google?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 07, 2015, 05:06:42 PM
Very interesting. Seems like the 10 year chinese visa is valid on an expired passport once issued before it expired.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/07/d93536f6dc95f94bed004bd70fdfbdb1.jpg)

Correct. What good would a ten year visa be on a passport that more than likely expires well before the?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 07, 2015, 09:32:26 PM
For my return flight home is it worth staying near the Airport the night before or how long would it take to get from Beijing city to the airport?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 07, 2015, 09:36:33 PM
Didnt know this. Why can't they use Google?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_China_censorship_of_Google_services
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on April 07, 2015, 10:33:08 PM
Didnt know this. Why can't they use Google?
Because they do not know how to use a VPN. 99% of Google products are blocked in China along with Facebook, Twitter, porn etc. You need to use a vpn to get around it.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 07, 2015, 10:38:32 PM
Because they do not know how to use a VPN. 99% of Google products are blocked in China along with Facebook, Twitter, porn etc. You need to use a vpn to get around it.

Any suggesstions?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on April 07, 2015, 10:42:09 PM
Any suggesstions?
Astril VPN is good. But if you are just going for a few days, find one online with a free trial. You can find ones with even a 30 day free trial.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 07, 2015, 10:56:54 PM
Astril VPN is good. But if you are just going for a few days, find one online with a free trial. You can find ones with even a 30 day free trial.

Sounds good. Any suggestions about my post above?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on April 07, 2015, 11:22:40 PM
For my return flight home is it worth staying near the Airport the night before or how long would it take to get from Beijing city to the airport?
I dont know. It depends on what time your flight is. Ask the Chabad there how long it takes.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 20, 2015, 12:27:29 AM
How many days do I need to do PEK properly?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on April 21, 2015, 04:00:05 AM
How many days do I need to do PEK properly?
3-4 if you plan well. The
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2015, 08:49:08 AM
Thanks. Aside from great Wall, what would you say top 3 things are?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on April 21, 2015, 09:17:35 AM
Thanks. Aside from great Wall, what would you say top 3 things are?

Tienanmen Square/Forbidden City

Silk Market
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on April 21, 2015, 10:16:04 AM
Thanks. Aside from great Wall, what would you say top 3 things are?
Some Jewish history as well.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on April 27, 2015, 12:31:24 PM
Trip Report written. Uploading photos. Will post the report on my flight home from DCA.

On the plane to DCA now. Same plane turn around.

Update: Posted early. http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=51455
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on May 01, 2015, 12:38:13 AM
Looking into some hotels, which would you suggest? W, St Regis, or Fairmont? Anyone have good experience with a driver to go to the Great Wall? TIA
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on May 01, 2015, 08:55:52 AM
Looking into some hotels, which would you suggest? W, St Regis, or Fairmont? Anyone have good experience with a driver to go to the Great Wall? TIA
Read Chucksterace TR.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on May 01, 2015, 10:16:46 AM

Read Chucksterace TR.
I was specifically wondering if anyone stayed in the W.... Wondering what that was like
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on May 02, 2015, 09:56:24 PM
I was specifically wondering if anyone stayed in the W.... Wondering what that was like
Wow did that open?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on May 02, 2015, 11:26:19 PM

Wow did that open?
Yep http://thepointsguy.com/2015/04/hotel-review-w-beijing-hotel-changan/
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2015, 07:45:11 PM
Like ChAiM'l said back in Sept, I'm thinking of going to Beijing for a quick 2 days in between SIN and HKG the last week in January.  All we want to see is the Great Wall and Tienanmen Square/Forbidden City. According the Accuweather for 2015 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/cn/beijing/101924/month/101924?monyr=1/01/2015) and 2014 (http://www.accuweather.com/en/cn/beijing/101924/month/101924?monyr=1/01/2014) Beijing appears to be in the high 30s/low 40s for the highs with little rain/snow. Has anyone gone in the winter before? Is it crazy to arrive from SIN on a Tuesday afternoon and leave on Thursday morning?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on May 18, 2015, 10:15:55 PM
The good thing about rainy days is no pollution.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2015, 10:21:24 PM
The good thing about rainy days is no pollution.
From what I've read it barely rains in Jan, it's just cold.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 01:23:55 AM
So it looks like we'll try to do to Beijing for a short trip. Is 1.5 days enough, landing Tuesday afternoon and leaving first thing Thursday morning? We really just want to see the Wall and the Forbidden City area.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 20, 2015, 01:28:25 AM

So it looks like we'll try to do to Beijing for a short trip. Is 1.5 days enough, landing Tuesday afternoon and leaving first thing Thursday morning? We really just want to see the Wall and the Forbidden City area.

Yes. Do the wall Wednesday morning, forbidden city after
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 01:29:39 AM
Yes. Do the wall Wednesday morning, forbidden city after
So what would we do on Tuesday? That wall only takes the morning? Also keep keeping in mind that in Jan the days are short.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 20, 2015, 01:32:07 AM

So what would we do on Tuesday? That wall only takes the morning? Also keep keeping in mind that in Jan the days are short.

Depends which part of the wall you go to and how long. Look at my recent trip report to Beijing.

Maybe explore the city tuesday afternoon a bitv
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 01:35:55 AM
Depends which part of the wall you go to and how long. Look at my recent trip report to Beijing.

Maybe explore the city tuesday afternoon a bitv
Maybe, but we can take a SQ J (vs CA J) flight Tue afternoon and get it Tue night if there's not much to do there (and we'd spend more time in SIN). We were thinking if going to the Mutinyahu part, as it seems to be the most popular ( and we won't have to worry about any crowds because it will be the middle of winter). Does that make sense?
Title: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 20, 2015, 01:38:15 AM
Maybe, but we can take a SQ J (vs CA J) flight Tue afternoon and get it Tue night if there's not much to do there (and we'd spend more time in SIN). We were thinking if going to the Mutinyahu part, as it seems to be the most popular ( and we won't have to worry about any crowds because it will be the middle of winter). Does that make sense?

Dunno. All I know is I went someplace a bit closer, . In the end the wall is the wall. About 45 min to an hour. Mutinyahu is longer I believe.

But if you leave earlier you will have more time.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 08:41:20 AM
Dunno. All I know is I went someplace a bit closer, . In the end the wall is the wall. About 45 min to an hour. Mutinyahu is longer I believe.

But if you leave earlier you will have more time.
What was the place you went to called? I guess you're right, it won't take all day. So would you plan to spend only 1 full day and 2 nights there instead of 1.5 days?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on May 20, 2015, 08:59:40 AM
What was the place you went to called? I guess you're right, it won't take all day. So would you plan to spend only 1 full day and 2 nights there instead of 1.5 days?

IIRC, I went here - http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china_great_wall/scene/beijing/juyongguan.htm, http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294212-d1563680-Reviews-Juyong_Pass_of_Great_Wall-Beijing.html
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 20, 2015, 09:26:28 AM
IIRC, I went here - http://www.travelchinaguide.com/china_great_wall/scene/beijing/juyongguan.htm, http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294212-d1563680-Reviews-Juyong_Pass_of_Great_Wall-Beijing.html
Thanks. Any thoughts on the trip length?

ETA:
So we want to fly SIN-PEK-HKG in J.

The two options are a CA A330 (http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air_China/Air_China_Airbus_A330-300_B.php) redeye where sleeping will be key, or an SQ 77W (http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Singapore_Air/Singapore_Air_Boeing_777-300ER.php) leaving 16:55 arriving 23:00.

Also to keep in mind how much time we'd need in PEK. The above flights are on a Tue, and we plan on leaving on Thu morning on a CA 772 (http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air_China/Air_China_Boeing_777-200_B.php).
Is it a bad idea to take SQ and arrive in PEK so late, and then only have 1 full day to do things?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2015, 10:28:53 AM
Suggestions for a four day stop which includes shabbas?

Thurs early am to Mon am.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 04, 2015, 10:32:11 AM
Suggestions for a four day stop which includes shabbas?

Thurs early am to Mon am.
BJ has great options for Marriott points, check it out. I prefer SHA, more history and more jewish history. Check out the art village, (I don't remember the name)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 04, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
Suggestions for a four day stop which includes shabbas?

Thurs early am to Mon am.
How much of Friday do you have (winter/summer)? We're going for 2 days and plan on going to the Wall at Mutianyu, the Forbidden City, Tiananmen Square, and Silk Road. You'll have more time, but that's a start.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2015, 12:27:17 PM
BJ has great options for Marriott points, check it out. I prefer SHA, more history and more jewish history. Check out the art village, (I don't remember the name)

Well, we're gonna be doing PEK this time around, so perhaps next time. And we're booked at Fairmont, which is close to Chabad.

I was asking more for activities/sites..

How much of Friday do you have (winter/summer)? We're going for 2 days and plan on going to the Wall at Mutianyu, the Forbidden City, Tiananmen Square, and Silk Road. You'll have more time, but that's a start.

We're going in summer, so we have until after 7.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on June 04, 2015, 12:39:35 PM
Well, we're gonna be doing PEK this time around, so perhaps next time. And we're booked at Fairmont, which is close to Chabad.

I was asking more for activities/sites..

We're going in summer, so we have until after 7.
You are AJK, I figured that you have already visited both pek and pvg and saw all the sights therefore I suggested the art village in Beijing.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2015, 04:03:26 PM
You are AJK, I figured that you have already visited both pek and pvg and saw all the sights therefore I suggested the art village in Beijing.

Lol. I'm sure you're much more well traveled in North Asia than me.

Tho I sure am looking forward to PEK, even if it will be boiling.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on June 04, 2015, 04:06:20 PM

Well, we're gonna be doing PEK this time around, so perhaps next time. And we're booked at Fairmont, which is close to Chabad.

I was asking more for activities/sites..

We're going in summer, so we have until after 7.
When in the summer? I'll be there in mid August
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 04, 2015, 04:21:38 PM
Tho I sure am looking forward to PEK, even if it will be boiling.
Same here, even though when I go it'll be freezing!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2015, 04:28:07 PM
When in the summer? I'll be there in mid August

Before then. Inquire within if you so desire.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 18, 2015, 01:13:29 AM
Reservations for shabbas meals necessary at chabad downtown?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on June 18, 2015, 01:45:04 AM

Reservations for shabbas meals necessary at chabad downtown?

I went without. But i did email them a week before asking for info. But didn't make reservations.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 18, 2015, 02:32:35 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 18, 2015, 03:56:13 PM
officially yes and they request payment as well. you can however just show up like many people do
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 21, 2015, 12:44:50 AM
officially yes and they request payment as well. you can however just show up like many people do
Yup. Ended up calling ahead when at lunch at main chabad. Nice people.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 23, 2015, 04:59:15 PM
anyone know about this? staying up to 72 hours with no Visa?

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/visa/free-72hour/
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on June 23, 2015, 05:11:09 PM
anyone know about this? staying up to 72 hours with no Visa?

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/visa/free-72hour/
That's correct. It was discussed up thread a bit.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 23, 2015, 05:41:43 PM
anyone know about this? staying up to 72 hours with no Visa?

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/visa/free-72hour/

Yes, must be transiting to a third, non-china country.

HKG and Macau are considered third countries.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on June 23, 2015, 05:50:06 PM
Yes, must be transiting to a third, non-china country.

HKG and Macau are considered third countries.

So I can't go if I'm going back to HK. Can't decide if it's worth paying 320 for visas for two days.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 23, 2015, 05:56:30 PM
So I can't go if I'm going back to HK. Can't decide if it's worth paying 320 for visas for two days.

Clarify your proposed routing.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: monkey123 on July 14, 2015, 06:17:32 AM

Im arriving in Beijing on thursday morning and departing sunday early morning to another country.

Just want to confirm that the 72 hour starts from the night of my arrival. Can anyone?

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 14, 2015, 09:01:43 AM
Im arriving in Beijing on thursday morning and departing sunday early morning to another country.

Just want to confirm that the 72 hour starts from the night of my arrival. Can anyone?
Yes, it should start at midnight after your arrival, giving you slightly more than 72 hours,  but don't cut it too close.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on July 14, 2015, 09:20:06 AM
Yes, it should start at midnight after your arrival, giving you slightly more than 72 hours,  but don't cut it too close.
What happens if you go over the 72 hours??
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2015, 09:53:15 AM
Remember what happened to Jack and Audrey?
That will seem tame ;)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Cohaaan1 on July 14, 2015, 09:59:04 AM

Remember what happened to Jack and Audrey?
That will seem tame ;)
what does that mean ??
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Cohaaan1 on July 14, 2015, 09:59:58 AM

what does that mean ??
whose jack and whose Audrey ?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 14, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
if you have to ask, you wont understand
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: EMCC on July 14, 2015, 07:16:53 PM
First time will be a written warning ad second time will be about $80 a day over.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 15, 2015, 04:37:22 PM
With regards to the 72 hr waiver, wonder what would happen if you show transit within 72 hours to another country and then change once you get into the country to go to PVG etc
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: LuxJeru on July 15, 2015, 05:56:10 PM
With regards to the 72 hr waiver, wonder what would happen if you show transit within 72 hours to another country and then change once you get into the country to go to PVG etc

I booked TLV-ZRH-PEK-DEL and plan on staying for 72 hours in Beijing and flying on different flight.  Should I have any issues?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2015, 06:01:34 PM
With regards to the 72 hr waiver, wonder what would happen if you show transit within 72 hours to another country and then change once you get into the country to go to PVG etc

...and when you leave PVG they're going to ask you for your documentation. What do you show them in your scenario?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 15, 2015, 07:38:36 PM
...and when you leave PVG they're going to ask you for your documentation. What do you show them in your scenario?

I'm not sure that they'll look for the reason u have the exemption upon departure. My guess is worse case a fine....

At this point, Visas for Americans in countries like China, India, Brazil and Russia seem like ways to pay back America for the way that we inconvinience their people
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 15, 2015, 07:41:23 PM
I'm not sure that they'll look for the reason u have the exemption upon departure. My guess is worse case a fine....

At this point, Visas for Americans in countries like China, India, Brazil and Russia seem like ways to pay back America for the way that we inconvinience their people

Your second point is definitely the case AFAIK, but still not sure what you're suggesting with the first.

I've never used the 72-hour visa, but I assume you get some sort of stamp or documentation that allows you in the country which is reviewed by immigration upon exiting China. Changing your ticket to PVG just delays the inevitable, immigration comparing entry and exit times.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on July 16, 2015, 07:20:47 AM
Can I fly into Beijing from HKG and within 72 fly out to a different country? Or the outbound flight has to be the same place I came from (HKG)?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 16, 2015, 08:40:30 AM
Can I fly into Beijing from HKG and within 72 fly out to a different country? Or the outbound flight has to be the same place I came from (HKG)?
Must be a 3rd country, so not HKG.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on July 16, 2015, 08:55:59 AM
Must be a 3rd country, so not HKG.
So I may come from HKG and just have a ticket to a different country?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 16, 2015, 09:27:21 AM
Right.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 16, 2015, 12:21:32 PM
Can the flight ex-PEK be on a seperate ticket, or it has to be on the same ticket as into PEK?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2015, 12:28:24 PM
Separate is fine.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 16, 2015, 12:30:00 PM
Separate is fine.
Thanks!

Any issues leaving the city to tour while on a 72 hour visa?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 16, 2015, 12:42:48 PM
What issues would there be?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 16, 2015, 12:43:56 PM
What issues would there be?
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/visa/free-72hour/

5. Passengers are not allowed to leave the transit city during the 72 hours
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 17, 2015, 04:13:05 AM
http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/visa/free-72hour/

5. Passengers are not allowed to leave the transit city during the 72 hours
Bump.

Anyone know what this means?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 17, 2015, 09:06:04 AM
Bump.

Anyone know what this means?
If you land in PEK you must stay in PEK. You can't visit another city within the 72 hours. Whether the Great Wall is part of PEK or if they care is up for debate.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 17, 2015, 09:40:34 AM
If you land in PEK you must stay in PEK. You can't visit another city within the 72 hours. Whether the Great Wall is part of PEK or if they care is up for debate.

Bottom line - can the Great Wall be visited while on a 72 hour visa?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on July 17, 2015, 09:46:35 AM
Bottom line - can the Great Wall be visited while on a 72 hour visa?
Looks like a few people did it.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: D93 on July 17, 2015, 09:47:41 AM
Looks like a few people did it.

Link?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 17, 2015, 09:50:43 AM
Bottom line - can the Great Wall be visited while on a 72 hour visa?
That's my plan.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: sammy n on July 17, 2015, 09:55:14 AM
Link?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2931.msg521610.msg#521610
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on July 17, 2015, 11:09:25 AM
can someone recommend the quickest way to get a visa? is the only way to mail it to the embassy? can someone show up to the embassy in NY and get one on the spot?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: chucksterace on July 17, 2015, 11:11:52 AM
Bottom line - can the Great Wall be visited while on a 72 hour visa?

Yes it can. Plenty of time.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: avrumy22 on July 17, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Yes it can. Plenty of time.

I am not sure if I understand this 100%. I am going to be in hong kong and would like to fly into china for 24 hours. will I need a regular visa or can I get a 72 hour one at the airport? I will be flying in and out.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 17, 2015, 11:28:20 AM
I am not sure if I understand this 100%. I am going to be in hong kong and would like to fly into china for 24 hours. will I need a regular visa or can I get a 72 hour one at the airport? I will be flying in and out.
If you'r flying back to HKG you need a visa. If you're flying to anywhere else you don't.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 17, 2015, 11:30:44 AM
can someone recommend the quickest way to get a visa? is the only way to mail it to the embassy? can someone show up to the embassy in NY and get one on the spot?

1) Visit the Chinese embassy. In NY that is on 12th Ave and 42nd St.
2) No, you can hire one of the expediting services.
3) No, even a rush will take a day or two, or more.

Chuck wasn't talking to you (look at who he quoted).

I am not sure if I understand this 100%. I am going to be in hong kong and would like to fly into china for 24 hours. will I need a regular visa or can I get a 72 hour one at the airport? I will be flying in and out.

You need to be IN TRANSIT. You cannot go HKG-PEK-HKG, you'd need to go HKG-PEK-XXX where XXX is a third country. If you fulfill that, you can stay for a maximum of 72 hours.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: LuxJeru on July 20, 2015, 07:42:42 AM
Can anyone confirm that the Marriott Hotel Northeast is Shabbos friendly?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: LuxJeru on July 22, 2015, 05:21:28 PM
Any recommendations for a tour guide for forbidden city and great wall? 
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on September 27, 2015, 10:44:29 AM
Can anyone add a VPN section to the wiki?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 01:44:50 AM
Anyone been to Beijing in the winter? According to what i read online the highs in January or in the mid thirties and the lows are in the teens. Does anyone know if this will impact different tourist sites? Will it be too uncomfortable to visit certain places? And finally is the kosher restaurant open in the winter?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 28, 2015, 12:15:41 PM
Anyone been to Beijing in the winter? According to what i read online the highs in January or in the mid thirties and the lows are in the teens. Does anyone know if this will impact different tourist sites? Will it be too uncomfortable to visit certain places? And finally is the kosher restaurant open in the winter?
it might be too cold to visit the great wall
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 12:17:52 PM
it might be too cold to visit the great wall
Does it "close" in the cold, or will it just not be comfortable to visit?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 28, 2015, 12:38:38 PM
Does it "close" in the cold, or will it just not be comfortable to visit?
i dont think it closes, just extremely cold
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on October 28, 2015, 12:40:36 PM
i dont think it closes, just extremely cold
Given that I'll be there anyway, I might as well see it even in the cold, no? On the upside, there'll be a lot fewer tourists.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 12:58:56 AM
Does anyone have any good recommendations of a driver/private tour guide for the Mutianyu Great Wall+Forbidden City? I saw this one (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294212-d3454760-Reviews-Beijing_Driver_Guide_Service_Beijing_Private_One_day_Tour-Beijing.html) that charges $175/1 person for a 8-9 hour all day tour. Is that reasonable? Does anyone have anyone in particular to recommend?

ETA: Also I noticed some sites saying that certain parts of the Great Wall (like hikes) could be closed in winter. Does anyone have any experience going during the winter?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 04, 2015, 01:26:16 AM
We paid $112 for the taxi total for 2 people (but didn't come with a "guide"). The wall costs an additional $25/pp with luge.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 01:27:38 AM
We paid $112 for the taxi total for 2 people. The wall costs an additional $25/pp with luge.
So you didn't take a tour guide, just a regular taxi? Did the guy wait for you and or speak English? I don't know how good my Chinese will be by then.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 04, 2015, 01:38:01 AM
So you didn't take a tour guide, just a regular taxi? Did the guy wait for you and or speak English? I don't know how good my Chinese will be by then.

Wasn't a regular taxi. I found a number online IIRC. We were able to communicate fine, but he was far from fluent.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 09:32:41 AM
Wasn't a regular taxi. I found a number online IIRC. We were able to communicate fine, but he was far from fluent.
Did he wait for you at the wall? What's his name and number?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 04, 2015, 10:03:47 AM
He did wait for us. I don't know if I saved his number. But I remember his website had a yellow background.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 10:34:38 AM
He did wait for us. I don't know if I saved his number. But I remember his website had a yellow background.
Do you remember anything more about him? His name or company name?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 04, 2015, 11:22:16 AM
Do you remember anything more about him? His name or company name?

Nope, but just look on TA and find one in your price range and who is available.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 11:28:26 AM
Nope, but just look on TA and find one in your price range and who is available.
Since my flight lands at 7am, does it make sense to get picked up at the airport instead of trying to get to the PH (where I'll be staying) and get picked up from there? Also are these tours truly private or group tours?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 04, 2015, 11:53:45 AM
Since my flight lands at 7am, does it make sense to get picked up at the airport instead of trying to get to the PH (where I'll be staying) and get picked up from there? Also are these tours truly private or group tours?

Our "tour" was just us. Driver waited for us as long as we wanted.

You only have one day in PEK? If not, I'd prefer being able to go to PH, drop off bags, and freshen up before heading out. But if scheduling forbids that, I'm not sure it makes sense time-wise: land 7am, earliest you'd get to PH is probably 8:30. Unless you can be out by 9 the latest (and that's late because the drive is an hour plus), I'd save it for a different day.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Our "tour" was just us. Driver waited for us as long as we wanted.

You only have one day in PEK? If not, I'd prefer being able to go to PH, drop off bags, and freshen up before heading out. But if scheduling forbids that, I'm not sure it makes sense time-wise: land 7am, earliest you'd get to PH is probably 8:30. Unless you can be out by 9 the latest (and that's late because the drive is an hour plus), I'd save it for a different day.
I'll be in PEK for 2 days, landing 7am Tue and flying out 5:30p Wed. I'd prefer to go to the PH since that way I won't be leaving all my stuff in a stranger's car (unless you don't think that's a concern). Is leaving at 9am really that late when most tours leave at 8am? I know sunset is early (like 5:30ish), so it would seem like enough time, no? Or better to go on Wed earlier and the go straight to the airport?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 04, 2015, 12:09:54 PM
I'll be in PEK for 2 days, landing 7am Tue and flying out 5:30p Wed. I'd prefer to go to the PH since that way I won't be leaving all my stuff in a stranger's car (unless you don't think that's a concern). Is leaving at 9am really that late when most tours leave at 8am? I know sunset is early (like 5:30ish), so it would seem like enough time, no? Or better to go on Wed earlier and the go straight to the airport?

In your case, I'd simply hightail it to PH and have him meet you there. Or, even better, have the guy pick you up from airport, wait for you for a half hour at PH and then continue on.

I wouldn't risk traffic doing mutianyu on Weds in your case.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 12:58:51 PM
In your case, I'd simply hightail it to PH and have him meet you there. Or, even better, have the guy pick you up from airport, wait for you for a half hour at PH and then continue on.

I wouldn't risk traffic doing mutianyu on Weds in your case.
It'd be great if he could pick up at PEK, go to PH and then to Mutianyu. Can I assume it'll cost around $175 for that or do you think it'll be cheaper/more expensive?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Hatastah on November 04, 2015, 06:32:04 PM

It'd be great if he could pick up at PEK, go to PH and then to Mutianyu. Can I assume it'll cost around $175 for that or do you think it'll be cheaper/more expensive?
I would suggest contacting Chabad there. When I was there they mentioned they have affordable and trustworthy drivers they work with
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 04, 2015, 06:43:10 PM
I would suggest contacting Chabad there. When I was there they mentioned they have affordable and trustworthy drivers they work with
I was actually going to do that. Thanks for the idea! With so many options on TA and no one really offering any first hand experience here (where they can remember more than a yellow website) it's a bit hard to decide.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 09, 2015, 12:30:10 AM
Does anyone have experience with Uber in Beijing? It looks to be available from the airport as well as all over the city, but does it work well there? UberPeople's seem to be the cheapest with UberX the next level up. Are UberX drivers in Beijing official, licensed drivers like UberX is in Paris, or are they just regular people like in the US?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2015, 02:43:15 PM
I'll be in Beijing by myself, and I'm not looking to spend $200+ on a private tour. I found a company, China Highlights (http://www.chinahighlights.com/tour/beijingtour/1-day-beijing-highlights-tour.htm), that got very good reviews on TA (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294212-d6433772-Reviews-China_Highlights_Beijing_Tours_Day_Tour-Beijing.html). They have a group tour (http://www.beijing-tour.com/day-tours/beijing-one-day-city-tour.asp#_=_) with no more than 6 people, though if less sign up the price stays the same (even if I'm the only one). The price ($134) would include the tour ($109 without food) and an airport transfer ($25). Does this sound reasonable? Would you still recommend a private tour? Keep in mind it'll be January, so the chances of having others in the group are less.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 11, 2015, 08:19:40 PM
I'd have no issue with a tour where the largest it'd be would be 6. Good reviews, $25 airport, and $100 tour sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 11, 2015, 08:33:04 PM
I'd have no issue with a tour where the largest it'd be would be 6. Good reviews, $25 airport, and $100 tour sounds good to me.
Thanks for your input. Here's hoping the group stays small to nonexistent (just me). What's the best way get in touch with Dini's/Chabad? I emailed both Chabad's on Sunday and haven't heard back.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: jungle on November 17, 2015, 03:47:00 AM
Does anyone know when the 72 hours to enter Beijing without a visa starts?
several places online say it starts at 00:01 the following day (night) but other places don't mention it, or say it's 72 hours from the time of landing.

(I just called the visa department and they don't know (or didn't understand) lol)


Tia
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: D93 on November 17, 2015, 03:57:09 AM
Does anyone know when the 72 hours to enter Beijing without a visa starts?
several places online say it starts at 00:01 the following day (night) but other places don't mention it, or say it's 72 hours from the time of landing.

(I just called the visa department and they don't know (or didn't understand) lol)


Tia

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5753/22463775443_21d86763e3_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ae3HPa)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 17, 2015, 04:34:13 AM
Thanks for your input. Here's hoping the group stays small to nonexistent (just me). What's the best way get in touch with Dini's/Chabad? I emailed both Chabad's on Sunday and haven't heard back.
Call
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 17, 2015, 08:43:01 AM
Call
I meant besides that.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Mech on December 29, 2015, 11:47:06 AM
China Extends Transit Without Visa To 6 Days!!
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/12/29/china-transit-without-visa-six-days/?utm_source=TW&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=SNAP%2Bfrom%2BOne+Mile+at+a+Time
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 29, 2015, 11:53:14 AM
China Extends Transit Without Visa To 6 Days!!
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2015/12/29/china-transit-without-visa-six-days/?utm_source=TW&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_campaign=SNAP%2Bfrom%2BOne+Mile+at+a+Time
Only applies to Shanghai, Hangzhou, and Nanjing, not Beijing.
Title: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Mech on December 29, 2015, 12:06:58 PM
Only applies to Shanghai, Hangzhou, and Nanjing, not Beijing.
Your right. Posted in wrong thread. I couldn't find a general China thread.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: yuguy on February 22, 2016, 06:34:33 PM
Looking for a reliable VPN service in Beijing. Also, will it work on a MiFi or SIM only?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 22, 2016, 06:38:53 PM
Looking for a reliable VPN service in Beijing. Also, will it work on a MiFi or SIM only?
ExpressVPN worked great. 30 day free trial.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: yuguy on February 22, 2016, 06:51:19 PM
ExpressVPN worked great. 30 day free trial.

Thanks, I'll look into it!

I'm assuming the VPN apps can work over a mifi/wifi device or whatever?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 22, 2016, 06:52:30 PM
Thanks, I'll look into it!

I'm assuming the VPN apps can work over a mifi/wifi device or whatever?
App works on Android, Windows, MacOSX and iOS. Since it needs to be installed and you normally can't install apps on a mifi/wifi device I don't know if it'll work.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: yuguy on February 22, 2016, 07:27:52 PM
App works on Android, Windows, MacOSX and iOS. Since it needs to be installed and you normally can't install apps on a mifi/wifi device I don't know if it'll work.

Sorry, I mean if I install the VPN app, it shouldn't have a problem connecting to a normal network or broadcasted mifi/wifi?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 22, 2016, 07:30:22 PM
Sorry, I mean if I install the VPN app, it shouldn't have a problem connecting to a normal network or broadcasted mifi/wifi?
Corre
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: yuguy on March 18, 2016, 01:59:41 PM
Data point for Beijing:

Hilton Diamond staying at the Doubltree by Hilton (in the business district, but cheap redemption and solid reviews) and I emailed their concierge requesting a kosher breakfast, as Diamonds are entitled to a breakfast and just this morning they confirmed my request and will be getting it from the Chabad.

Never hurts to ask!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 18, 2016, 02:01:13 PM
Data point for Beijing:

Hilton Diamond staying at the Doubltree by Hilton (in the business district, but cheap redemption and solid reviews) and I emailed their concierge requesting a kosher breakfast, as Diamonds are entitled to a breakfast and just this morning they confirmed my request and will be getting it from the Chabad.

Never hurts to ask!
PH also got a kosher breakfast. The chef at the hotel was a pleasure to deal with (he's European FWIW).
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on May 18, 2016, 12:25:44 PM
PH also got a kosher breakfast. The chef at the hotel was a pleasure to deal with (he's European FWIW).

Do you need to be Diamond to get the kosher breakfast at the PH? What do they serve?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2016, 12:29:54 PM
Do you need to be Diamond to get the kosher breakfast at the PH? What do they serve?
Yes. They gave me a few choices and I got all of them except the hard boiled eggs.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on May 18, 2016, 12:33:32 PM
Yes. They gave me a few choices and I got all of them except the hard boiled eggs.

Thanks. Did you need to request the kosher breakfast in advance? How was the hotel overall?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2016, 12:34:22 PM
Thanks. Did you need to request the kosher breakfast in advance? How was the hotel overall?
Yes. They have to order it from Dini's. The hotel was one of the nicest city hotels I've been in.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yuey on May 18, 2016, 12:42:26 PM
Yes. They have to order it from Dini's. The hotel was one of the nicest city hotels I've been in.
Awesome! God willing I'll be staying there shortly for a 2 day trip. Do you know if any of the major local attractions require advance ticket purchase (e.g. Summer palace or Forbidden City)? Also, I emailed the driver/guide that was recommended in an earlier post for the great wall. Do you think a guide is also necessary for the Beijing?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 18, 2016, 12:44:37 PM
Awesome! God willing I'll be staying there shortly for a 2 day trip. Do you know if any of the major local attractions require advance ticket purchase (e.g. Summer palace or Forbidden City)? Also, I emailed the driver/guide that was recommended in an earlier post for the great wall. Do you think a guide is also necessary for the Beijing?
Did you read my TR? I'd recommend the tour I did, especially the guide I had, though that's not guaranteed. Depends on the season you go. In winter it's low season so no advance tickets are necessary.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: DTM on December 01, 2016, 06:20:08 PM
Yes. They have to order it from Dini's. The hotel was one of the nicest city hotels I've been in.
I am planning a trip to Beijing and was wondering if anyone can comment on the Nuo Hotel, apparently a 5 star with a 10 minute walk to Dini's/Chabad current location.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on December 01, 2016, 10:33:49 PM
I have a 9hr stopover in Beijing from 3.30p-1am.
Any ideas of what to do? Was thinking of doing the wall but I reckon it'll be too dark by the time we get out of the airport to be worth it
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 01, 2016, 10:42:05 PM
I have a 9hr stopover in Beijing from 3.30p-1am.
Any ideas of what to do? Was thinking of doing the wall but I reckon it'll be too dark by the time we get out of the airport to be worth it
It depends on the time of year. Now it will be dark around 5:30p so that's not enough time. The imperial Palace is probably closed as well, but Tiananmen Square could be open (there's security so you can't just walk in). Maybe the markets are open? Honestly that not the best time of day to visit. Keep in mind the traffic is insane especially at rush hour. Your return trip to the airport should be quite traffic free though.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on December 04, 2016, 04:07:20 AM
It depends on the time of year. Now it will be dark around 5:30p so that's not enough time. The imperial Palace is probably closed as well, but Tiananmen Square could be open (there's security so you can't just walk in). Maybe the markets are open? Honestly that not the best time of day to visit. Keep in mind the traffic is insane especially at rush hour. Your return trip to the airport should be quite traffic free though.

Ye. realized that it ain't the best time of day. We're traveling thru in early Jan....but that's the routing we have on air china, so we're kinda stuck with this anyway....i guess we'll just check out the markets and go to dini's for food
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 04, 2016, 10:14:00 AM
Ye. realized that it ain't the best time of day. We're traveling thru in early Jan....but that's the routing we have on air china, so we're kinda stuck with this anyway....i guess we'll just check out the markets and go to dini's for food
That's probably your best bet. Also be prepared for really long customs lines with no J/F priority lines for customs when leaving PEK on CA.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: htg123 on January 06, 2017, 12:22:45 AM
Loosely related... Has anyone dealt with this before? http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/01/05/air-china-ticket-problems/
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 06, 2017, 12:26:02 AM
Loosely related... Has anyone dealt with this before? http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/01/05/air-china-ticket-problems/
I booked and successfully flew on Air China via Aeroplan last January. No issues.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 19, 2017, 12:26:54 PM
Anyone planning on going to PEK in the next few weeks?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 19, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
Anyone planning on going to PEK in the next few weeks?
I was there almost a year ago exactly, but don't have plans to be there this year. Why?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 19, 2017, 12:58:11 PM
Need a favor. Please PM if you are!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: beachbachur on March 26, 2017, 02:53:21 AM
I emailed Jonny yellow car and he wants 1200 rmb for the day is there anyone cheaper I can hire?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shimino1 on March 26, 2017, 06:03:59 AM
It depends on the time of year. Now it will be dark around 5:30p so that's not enough time. The imperial Palace is probably closed as well, but Tiananmen Square could be open (there's security so you can't just walk in). Maybe the markets are open? Honestly that not the best time of day to visit. Keep in mind the traffic is insane especially at rush hour. Your return trip to the airport should be quite traffic free though.
It's a square. It's not like they really "close". Regardless, it isn't worth going all the way from the airport to the city just to see a square.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 26, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
It's a square. It's not like they really "close". Regardless, it isn't worth going all the way from the airport to the city just to see a square.
It has security to get in and barricades and tons of cameras around it preventing people from entering at will. When security closes, the square closes.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on June 05, 2017, 09:38:31 AM
Is google still blocked in China? email? google maps?
If so, how did you get around it? VPN?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 29, 2017, 03:28:04 PM
Anyone planning on going to PEK in the next few weeks?

Bump. Please PM.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on June 29, 2017, 03:58:57 PM
Bump. Please PM.
how about a few months
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 10, 2017, 06:30:37 PM
how about a few months

That'd work.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 02:44:37 PM
Thanks to the AC glitch, DW and I are planning a week in China in January.  I would love everyone's advice and suggestions.  Here is a proposed itinerary:

BOS-YYZ-PEK: arrive Wednesday 5pm.
PEK-PVG: Wednesday evening
Thursday all day in PVG.
Friday noon: PVG-HKG
Shabbat and all day Sunday in HKG
Monday afternoon: HKG-PEK
All day Tuesday and (almost) all day Wednesday in PEK
Wednesday evening: PEK-YYZ-BOS

How does that sound, as far as distributing our time in the three cities?

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on August 30, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
Thanks to the AC glitch, DW and I are planning a week in China in January.  I would love everyone's advice and suggestions.  Here is a proposed itinerary:

BOS-YYZ-PEK: arrive Wednesday 5pm.
PEK-PVG: Wednesday evening
Thursday all day in PVG.
Friday noon: PVG-HKG
Shabbat and all day Sunday in HKG
Monday afternoon: HKG-PEK
All day Tuesday and (almost) all day Wednesday in PEK
Wednesday evening: PEK-YYZ-BOS

How does that sound, as far as distributing our time in the three cities?
Why don't you visit Xian? Guilin?
Title: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 02:55:01 PM
Why don't you visit Xian? Guilin?
I am embarrassed to say: Because I have never heard of them.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 02:55:33 PM
Why don't you visit Xian? Guilin?
Instead of Shanghai?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 03:02:01 PM
Thanks to the AC glitch, DW and I are planning a week in China in January.  I would love everyone's advice and suggestions.  Here is a proposed itinerary:

BOS-YYZ-PEK: arrive Wednesday 5pm.
PEK-PVG: Wednesday evening
Thursday all day in PVG.
Friday noon: PVG-HKG
Shabbat and all day Sunday in HKG
Monday afternoon: HKG-PEK
All day Tuesday and (almost) all day Wednesday in PEK
Wednesday evening: PEK-YYZ-BOS

How does that sound, as far as distributing our time in the three cities?
I think you should cut out one city. There's more to see in HKG than 1 day will allow, so I'd cut PVG. Plus the traffic in PEK is horrific, so things can take a lot longer than you otherwise anticipate.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 03:03:27 PM
I think you should cut out one city. There's more to see in HKG than 1 day will allow, so I'd cut PVG. Plus the traffic in PEK is horrific, so things can take a lot longer than you otherwise anticipate.
This is what I was hoping to learn. Wife had same concern.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 03:05:18 PM
This is what I was hoping to learn. Wife had same concern.
I wouldn't try to push it in 3 cities. If you just wanted to stay in China, you can spend shabbos in PEK or PVG and cut out HKG completely, but that's up to you.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on August 30, 2017, 03:33:59 PM
Instead of Shanghai?
Are you trying to avoid the visa? and want to use avios?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 03:41:58 PM
Are you trying to avoid the visa? and want to use avios?
I would like to use Avios, but that's not essential.
I hadn't even considered the visa issue yet -- is it a big deal?
My main concern/question was about spending enough/too much time in each place.

I wouldn't try to push it in 3 cities. If you just wanted to stay in China, you can spend shabbos in PEK or PVG and cut out HKG completely, but that's up to you.
Visiting Hong Kong is a priority, based on what I have read here from you and others. Seems like Shabbos in HKG is best of all three, but maybe I'm mistaken? Please advise.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 30, 2017, 03:45:40 PM
Shabbos n HK definitely by far the best.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 03:46:50 PM
I would like to use Avios, but that's not essential.
I hadn't even considered the visa issue yet -- is it a big deal?
My main concern/question was about spending enough/too much time in each place.
Visiting Hong Kong is a priority, based on what I have read here from you and others. Seems like Shabbos in HKG is best of all three, but maybe I'm mistaken? Please advise.
If HKG is a priority, so I'd go straight there, spend time through Sunday then go to PEK. In terms of a visa, you may be able to get a 7 day visa if you just visit PEK, but if you want to visit PEK and PVG you'll need a visa.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on August 30, 2017, 03:52:31 PM
I hadn't even considered the visa issue yet -- is it a big deal?
It's easy to get, but $140pp
if your entry and departure point is PEK, then the only way to avoid the visa will be PEK-HKG-PEK.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 04:13:40 PM
Shabbos n HK definitely by far the best.
Thanks. I think we'll stick with the plan for Shabbos in HK.

It's easy to get, but $140pp
Ouch. We only paid $200 apiece for the RT airfare! I would like to avoid the visa.

If HKG is a priority, so I'd go straight there, spend time through Sunday then go to PEK. In terms of a visa, you may be able to get a 7 day visa if you just visit PEK, but if you want to visit PEK and PVG you'll need a visa.

I'm fine with just two cities, PEK and HKG.
If we stay 5 nights in HKG Sheraton on points, the 5th night is free.

Is that too long to be in HKG and does it short-change PEK?
We would have Sunday noon through Tuesday night in PEK.

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on August 30, 2017, 04:17:25 PM
another option (no PVG):
BOS-YYZ-PEK: arrive Wednesday 5pm.
PEK: Wednesday evening
Thursday all day in PEK.
Friday noon: PEK-HKG
Shabbat and all day Sunday in HKG
Monday afternoon: Dragonair HKG-XIY (Xian)
Tuesday : Xian (Terracotta Army, City tour)
Tuesday evening: Fly or take high speed train or overnight train to PEK
(almost) all day Wednesday in PEK
Wednesday evening: PEK-YYZ-BOS

the visa is good for 10 years

/I let you know how Xian was in a couple of months :)/
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
Thanks. I think we'll stick with the plan for Shabbos in HK.
Ouch. We only paid $200 apiece for the RT airfare! I would like to avoid the visa.

I'm fine with just two cities, PEK and HKG.
If we stay 5 nights in HKG Sheraton on points, the 5th night is free.

Is that too long to be in HKG and does it short-change PEK?
We would have Sunday noon through Tuesday night in PEK.
Some would argue that 5 days is too long for HKG, but on the plus side 5 days allows you to get a suit made. The time in PEK only gives you 1 full day, and depending on how long you can stand the traffic and crowds, 2 half days. I liked the one day tour I did in PEK, but besides that it was just too crowded (and cold) for my liking. HKG has enough to keep you busy for 5 days, especially if one of those days is Shabbos.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 05:24:45 PM
another option (no PVG):
BOS-YYZ-PEK: arrive Wednesday 5pm.
PEK: Wednesday evening
Thursday all day in PEK.
Friday noon: PEK-HKG
Shabbat and all day Sunday in HKG
Monday afternoon: Dragonair HKG-XIY (Xian)
Tuesday : Xian (Terracotta Army, City tour)
Tuesday evening: Fly or take high speed train or overnight train to PEK
(almost) all day Wednesday in PEK
Wednesday evening: PEK-YYZ-BOS

the visa is good for 10 years

/I let you know how Xian was in a couple of months :)/

That's a sensible alternative.
I would like to see the Terracotta Army, but I think dear wife will ultimately not like the idea of trying to visit three cities.

Some would argue that 5 days is too long for HKG, but on the plus side 5 days allows you to get a suit made. The time in PEK only gives you 1 full day, and depending on how long you can stand the traffic and crowds, 2 half days. I liked the one day tour I did in PEK, but besides that it was just too crowded (and cold) for my liking. HKG has enough to keep you busy for 5 days, especially if one of those days is Shabbos.

I need to think about the suit option.  Hard to imagine a shlumpy guy like me in a custom suit!

The second half day in PEK is more like three-quarter day, so I think that will suffice for us.

This leads me to the following itinerary:
BOS-YYZ-PEK, arriving Wednesday 5pm
PEK-HKG, Wednesday night
In HKG 5 nights (Wed night through Monday morning; Sheraton Hong Kong).
HKG-PEK, Monday morning
In PEK 2 nights (Monday and Tuesday; probably the Fairmont).
PEK-YYZ-BOS, departing Wednesday 7pm

For tourism/sightseeing, we'll have 2+ days in HK (Thursday, Friday, Sunday) and about 2 days in PEK (0.5 of Monday+ 1.0 Tuesday+ 0.75 Wednesday).

Thank you all for the advice.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 05:37:35 PM
That's a sensible alternative.
I would like to see the Terracotta Army, but I think dear wife will ultimately not like the idea of trying to visit three cities.

I need to think about the suit option.  Hard to imagine a shlumpy guy like me in a custom suit!

The second half day in PEK is more like three-quarter day, so I think that will suffice for us.

This leads me to the following itinerary:
BOS-YYZ-PEK, arriving Wednesday 5pm
PEK-HKG, Wednesday night
In HKG 5 nights (Wed night through Monday morning; Sheraton Hong Kong).
HKG-PEK, Monday morning
In PEK 2 nights (Monday and Tuesday; probably the Fairmont).
PEK-YYZ-BOS, departing Wednesday 7pm

For tourism/sightseeing, we'll have 2+ days in HK (Thursday, Friday, Sunday) and about 2 days in PEK (0.5 of Monday+ 1.0 Tuesday+ 0.75 Wednesday).

Thank you all for the advice.
If you find yourselves bored in HKG and feel like gambling you can always head to Macau.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 05:38:18 PM
If you find yourselves bored in HKG and feel like gambling you can always head to Macau.
I was already thinking that would be a fun day trip.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 05:42:15 PM
I was already thinking that would be a fun day trip.
And don't undersell yourself on a custom suit. They may be cheaper in CNX or other Thai cities, but I loved the one I got in HKG! It makes you feel better, and may encourage you to look better, too!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 06:18:19 PM
And don't undersell yourself on a custom suit. They may be cheaper in CNX or other Thai cities, but I loved the one I got in HKG! It makes you feel better, and may encourage you to look better, too!
Thanks.  I do need the encouragement!

Separately, how much time do I need to allow in PEK for our connection to HKG?

YVR-PEK (AC) scheduled to arrive 16:50.

Can I make a 19:30 flight PEK-HKG on KA? (DragonAir)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 06:21:31 PM
Thanks.  I do need the encouragement!

Separately, how much time do I need to allow in PEK for our connection to HKG?

YVR-PEK (AC) scheduled to arrive 16:50.

Can I make a 19:30 flight PEK-HKG on KA? (DragonAir)
MCT is 2 hours, so that should be enough time.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 06:22:28 PM
MCT is 2 hours, so that should be enough time.
Thank you. We'll go for it!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 30, 2017, 08:30:00 PM
PEK is far more interesting than HKG. If spending more time in one city, it should be PEK
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 08:47:29 PM
PEK is far more interesting than HKG. If spending more time in one city, it should be PEK
Maybe, but PEK is super trafficy, even in the winter.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 30, 2017, 10:03:16 PM
Maybe, but PEK is super trafficy, even in the winter.
There's probably less traffic in his hometown too. Hes going to the Far East. To me it's a no brainer to spend more time in PEK than in HKG.
And I actually like HKG, been there thrice.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 10:11:19 PM
There's probably less traffic in his hometown too. Hes going to the Far East. To me it's a no brainer to spend more time in PEK than in HKG.
And I actually like HKG, been there thrice.
True, there may be more tourist attractions to do in PEK in the winter than in HKG, I'm just mentioning both and letting him decide. Often times it's really cold and snowy in PEK and he may want a warmer destination, making HKG the way to go.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 10:28:03 PM
PEK is far more interesting than HKG. If spending more time in one city, it should be PEK

True, there may be more tourist attractions to do in PEK in the winter than in HKG, I'm just mentioning both and letting him decide. Often times it's really cold and snowy in PEK and he may want a warmer destination, making HKG the way to go.

I love the different opinions.  Thank you.
I hadn't really thought about weather, but it being January, and coming from BOS, yes, warmer sounds better.
With our current itinerary, we are spending five nights in HKG and 2 nights in PEK, but the tourist time is not really so heavily weighted toward HKG.
For me, if I see The Great Wall, The Forbidden City and Tianenman Square, I'll be satisfied with PEK.

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 30, 2017, 10:36:59 PM
I love the different opinions.  Thank you.
I hadn't really thought about weather, but it being January, and coming from BOS, yes, warmer sounds better.
With our current itinerary, we are spending five nights in HKG and 2 nights in PEK, but the tourist time is not really so heavily weighted toward HKG.
For me, if I see The Great Wall, The Forbidden City and Tianenman Square, I'll be satisfied with PEK.
All your PEK items of interest can be covered on a one day tour. Other items like markets, etc. can be done on the half days. See my TR for which tour I used. FWIW I also went at the end of January.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 10:41:40 PM
All your PEK items of interest can be covered on a one day tour. Other items like markets, etc. can be done on the half days. See my TR for which tour I used. FWIW I also went at the end of January.
Will do. Thank you. 
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on August 30, 2017, 10:58:51 PM
Agree that PEK > HKG in terms of time.

I wouldn't spend more than 2-3 days in HKG and could easily do 4-5 in PEK.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 30, 2017, 11:20:02 PM
Agree that PEK > HKG in terms of time.

I wouldn't spend more than 2-3 days in HKG and could easily do 4-5 in PEK.
Ok.  Sleeping on it.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 31, 2017, 05:15:16 AM
I would recommend staying the bare minimum in HKG, and doing a stop in either Xian to see the Terracotta Warriors or in Chengdu to see the pandas. Both of those options do not require a night.

Either way, use Ctrip for booking intra China flights. Much cheaper than the regular OTA's
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 31, 2017, 07:51:52 AM
I would recommend staying the bare minimum in HKG, and doing a stop in either Xian to see the Terracotta Warriors or in Chengdu to see the pandas. Both of those options do not require a night.

Either way, use Ctrip for booking intra China flights. Much cheaper than the regular OTA's
Thank you.
Getting the feeling of FOMO if we don't see the Terra-cotta warriors
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 31, 2017, 09:06:31 AM
Here's an updated itinerary, changes bolded:

BOS-YYZ-PEK, arriving Wednesday 5pm
PEK-XIY, Wednesday night
XIY-HKG Thursday afternoon
In HKG 4 nights (Thurs night through Monday morning).
HKG-PEK, Monday morning
In PEK 2 nights (Monday and Tuesday)
PEK-YYZ-BOS, departing Wednesday 7pm

Question: Is half a day long enough in XIY to see the TerraCotta Warriors?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 31, 2017, 09:45:48 AM
Here's an updated itinerary, changes bolded:

BOS-YYZ-PEK, arriving Wednesday 5pm
PEK-XIY, Wednesday night
XIY-HKG Thursday afternoon
In HKG 4 nights (Thurs night through Monday morning).
HKG-PEK, Monday morning
In PEK 2 nights (Monday and Tuesday)
PEK-YYZ-BOS, departing Wednesday 7pm

Question: Is half a day long enough in XIY to see the TerraCotta Warriors?
I hear the not missing out on the Terracotta Warriors, but you will also be quite tired by the time you get there, so you may not be in the mood of going out to see them and then heading straight back to the airport for another flight. Just something to keep in mind.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 31, 2017, 09:57:11 AM
I hear the not missing out on the Terracotta Warriors, but you will also be quite tired by the time you get there, so you may not be in the mood of going out to see them and then heading straight back to the airport for another flight. Just something to keep in mind.
Spoken like one who has experience.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 31, 2017, 11:27:11 AM
The itin you posted gives you a night in XIY. You should have no tired issues then on Thursday. And yes, should be enough time
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 31, 2017, 11:58:39 AM
Here's an updated itinerary, changes bolded:

BOS-YYZ-PEK, arriving Wednesday 5pm
PEK-XIY, Wednesday night
XIY-HKG Thursday afternoon
In HKG 4 nights (Thurs night through Monday morning).
HKG-PEK, Monday morning
In PEK 2 nights (Monday and Tuesday)
PEK-YYZ-BOS, departing Wednesday 7pm

Question: Is half a day long enough in XIY to see the TerraCotta Warriors?
Looks great, only shame is that you'll need to buy a visa.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 31, 2017, 11:59:55 AM
Looks great, only shame is that you'll need to buy a visa.
72-hour rule doesn't apply?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 31, 2017, 12:05:37 PM
72-hour rule doesn't apply?
Nope, needs to be direct into China and out of China.
PEK-XIY invalidates that unless you connect outside of China to get there.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 31, 2017, 12:06:06 PM
Nope, needs to be direct into China and out of China.
PEK-XIY invalidates that unless you connect outside of China to get there.
Ugh
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on August 31, 2017, 12:26:35 PM
The itin you posted gives you a night in XIY. You should have no tired issues then on Thursday. And yes, should be enough time
Everyone has their own preferences. It could be he'll be fine after a long flight from the US, could be he'll be dead tired after not sleeping. To each his own.

Ugh
I thought we discussed that earlier, but maybe we weren't clear. If in your mind the terracotta army is worth $280 to go see, then go for it, otherwise you'll need to skip it.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 31, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
Everyone has their own preferences. It could be he'll be fine after a long flight from the US, could be he'll be dead tired after not sleeping. To each his own.
I thought we discussed that earlier, but maybe we weren't clear. If in your mind the terracotta army is worth $280 to go see, then go for it, otherwise you'll need to skip it.

I don't mind being exhausted, but DW doesn't function so well when tired.

Might need to skip the Terracotta this time. I'm okay with that.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 31, 2017, 04:36:16 PM
Everyone has their own preferences. It could be he'll be fine after a long flight from the US, could be he'll be dead tired after not sleeping. To each his own.
Im not sure I understand. Are you suggesting someone arriving 5pm might be too tired to tour the following morning? You have over 12 hours to sleep it off...
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on August 31, 2017, 09:00:31 PM
Im not sure I understand. Are you suggesting someone arriving 5pm might be too tired to tour the following morning? You have over 12 hours to sleep it off...
The long-haul Y flight arrives in PEK at 5pm. We would need to connect to a flight at 7pm to Xi'An, arriving at 9pm. By the time we get settled into hotel it would be 10:30pm at best. It is not terrible but pretty sure my dear wife will think the shlep and cost don't justify it.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on September 08, 2017, 01:51:47 PM
Any chance that the Sheraton (Dongcheng) Club Lounge would order us kosher breakfast?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: goteli1993 on December 13, 2017, 06:25:26 PM
I booked a China trip during the aswsosme Air Canada price mistake! Going with the wife and kid. Looking for a reliable and “safe” driver to take us to Great Wall, anyone have contact info?
I looked up thread but didn’t see the info posted
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 13, 2017, 06:34:32 PM
I booked a China trip during the aswsosme Air Canada price mistake! Going with the wife and kid. Looking for a reliable and “safe” driver to take us to Great Wall, anyone have contact info?
I looked up thread but didn’t see the info posted
See here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=60135.msg1400929#msg1400929).
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: DTM on December 14, 2017, 10:56:55 AM
I booked a China trip during the aswsosme Air Canada price mistake! Going with the wife and kid. Looking for a reliable and “safe” driver to take us to Great Wall, anyone have contact info?
I looked up thread but didn’t see the info posted
Google "Chabad Beijing" and contact Rabbi or Rebbitzen Shimon and Dini Freundlich for tour guide/driver advice, as well as kosher food arrangements.   
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 14, 2017, 11:42:05 AM
Google "Chabad Beijing" and contact Rabbi or Rebbitzen Shimon and Dini Freundlich for tour guide/driver advice, as well as kosher food arrangements.   
But keep in mind it's not hard at all to do it yourself.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: superstareli55 on December 14, 2017, 01:15:03 PM
looking to stop in bejing from 5am till the following day 11am just had some Qs
1-how do the visas work do i need to apply for a visa or can i get one in the airport?
2-recommended driver/guide?
3-recommended must do attractions?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 14, 2017, 01:23:38 PM
looking to stop in bejing from 5am till the following day 11am just had some Qs
1-how do the visas work do i need to apply for a visa or can i get one in the airport?
2-recommended driver/guide?
3-recommended must do attractions?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!
Did you read up-thread at all, even a few posts? You don't need a visa assuming you're transitting. If you're flying back to the country you came from you need a visa. See here (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=60135.msg1400929#msg1400929) for guides and attractions.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: superstareli55 on December 14, 2017, 01:46:34 PM
Thanx! Im doing ewr-cnx-pek-ewr ...does that mean i wont need a visa?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on December 14, 2017, 01:54:59 PM
Thanx! Im doing ewr-cnx-pek-ewr ...does that mean i wont need a visa?
Correct.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on December 25, 2017, 01:29:31 PM
Hi, I'm finalizing our upcoming Beijing itinerary for travel in a few weeks and would appreciate general feedback and responses to specific questions below.

Constraints:
1. Arriving Sunday evening; departing Wednesday afternoon (~70 hours).
2. Need to daven w/kahal Monday ma'ariv and Tuesday shacharit (yahrtzeit; Rabbi Freundlich said mincha not an option. :()
3. Forbidden City is not open on Mondays.

Tentative Touring Itinerary (Days 1 and 2 with China Highlights Tour Company -- thanks, @Yehoshua -- Day 3 on our own):
Day 1. Monday: Summer Palace, The Mutianyu Great Wall (return by ma'ariv)
Day 2. Tuesday: (after shacharit) The Forbidden City, Tiananmen Square, Jingshan Park (Coal Hill), Hutong Tour in Dongcheng District, The Southern Gong and Drum Lane(Nanluoguxiang), Houhai
Day 3. Wednesday: Temple of Heaven, Lama Temple, Beijing Olympic Stadiums (exterior visit only); return to PEK by 4:30PM for 6:45PM flight.

Questions:
1. Thinking about adding Ming Dynasty Tombs to Day 1... is it worthwhile?
2. Presume it would be wise to have tour guide for Day 2, as currently planned. We are packing in a lot of places, so might be efficient to have guide/driver. Agree?
3. Any reason to think that we would need a guide for Day 3?

Thanks in advance for your responses and general feedback.

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: moish on December 25, 2017, 02:49:31 PM
Not going to visit any of the markets?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: DTM on December 25, 2017, 03:45:25 PM

Tentative Touring Itinerary (Days 1 and 2 with China Highlights Tour Company -- thanks, @Yehoshua -- Day 3 on our own):
Day 1. Monday: Summer Palace, The Mutianyu Great Wall (return by ma'ariv)
Day 2. Tuesday: (after shacharit) The Forbidden City, Tiananmen Square, Jingshan Park (Coal Hill), Hutong Tour in Dongcheng District, The Southern Gong and Drum Lane(Nanluoguxiang), Houhai
Day 3. Wednesday: Temple of Heaven, Lama Temple, Beijing Olympic Stadiums (exterior visit only); return to PEK by 4:30PM for 6:45PM flight.

Questions:
1. Thinking about adding Ming Dynasty Tombs to Day 1... is it worthwhile?
2. Presume it would be wise to have tour guide for Day 2, as currently planned. We are packing in a lot of places, so might be efficient to have guide/driver. Agree?
3. Any reason to think that we would need a guide for Day 3?

Answers:
1. I don't know, as I did not visit the Ming Dynasty Tombs, but be mindful of Beijing traffic delays generally as you have a deadline to return for Maariv.
2. Absolutely Yes. You should have someone who knows his way around to most efficiently get to, in and out of, all those sites, and they will be much more meaningful with narration.
3. I would skip the Avoda Zora and, as Moish suggests, visit the markets. In my view Silk Market is best; don't forget to bargain. If you're traveling with your wife, she will will love it. And this you can do without a tour guide. 
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on December 25, 2017, 03:57:10 PM
Answers:
1. I don't know, as I did not visit the Ming Dynasty Tombs, but be mindful of Beijing traffic delays generally as you have a deadline to return for Maariv.
2. Absolutely Yes. You should have someone who knows his way around to most efficiently get to, in and out of, all those sites, and they will be much more meaningful with narration.
3. I would skip the Avoda Zora and, as Moish suggests, visit the markets. In my view Silk Market is best; don't forget to bargain. If you're traveling with your wife, she will will love it. And this you can do without a tour guide.
Not going to visit any of the markets?

Thank you both.  We will incorporate Silk Market on Wednesday.  Will be cautious about the avodah zarah.

Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 01, 2018, 09:40:17 AM
I am planning a trip to Beijing and was wondering if anyone can comment on the Nuo Hotel, apparently a 5 star with a 10 minute walk to Dini's/Chabad current location.
Post-trip answer to my own question:
Beautifully modern, luxury hotel. 10 minute walk to Chabad Beijing, the hotel is Shabbos friendly, shutting off automatic lights, that would otherwise go on in the room, before Shabbos, and taking guests up to their rooms with master key card. I recommend a deluxe corner room with park view. Chabad/Dini's   delivered breakfast and take along lunches for us every morning. 
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on January 01, 2018, 08:28:11 PM
"China on Thursday extended its visa-free period for people transiting through Beijing to 144 hours"
that's 6 days for visa-free transit
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on January 07, 2018, 09:37:55 PM
Post-trip answer to my own question:
Beautifully modern, luxury hotel. 10 minute walk to Chabad Beijing, the hotel is Shabbos friendly, shutting off automatic lights, that would otherwise go on in the room, before Shabbos, and taking guests up to their rooms with master key card. I recommend a deluxe corner room with park view. Chabad/Dini's   delivered breakfast and take along lunches for us every morning.
Great! @DTM, Can you tell us more about your meals at Dini's?
We'll be staying at the Fairmont soon, and they said they contacted Dini's and Dini's said they couldn't provide breakfast.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2018, 12:58:16 AM
No worries. I hope to be proven wrong and will happily shlep back the frozen meals if Dini's is open and delicious! Report to follow, B'N.

Dini's is good food and the Rabbi and Rebbetzin are really nice!
If you're so inclined, you can go for shachris and have breakfast there afterwards


Food there is very good

We ate our delicious sandwiches from Dinis restaurant and toured the square....

At 8 pm we took a cab to Dinis restaurant were we had a delicious supper. Its in a tent outside the chabad house in Beijing. Very nice and delicious food. We got back to the hotel at 11 pm and each took a massage by a place across the street open till late. Nice place, they had a man doing it for me.

after a full day of touring we headed to the chabad restaurant,dini's,which currently was under construction and was based out of the chabad house,pretty much an open grill each night we were there,good food and very nice people! each night we were there,we ordered food for lunch the next day so that was really helpful.     
we headed to dinis for a delicious supper. at night the chabad rabbi sent over their household help to babysit our daughter as me we spent the night exploring
from there we had another great dinner at dinis followed by massages across from the hotel. 
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: DTM on January 08, 2018, 08:43:46 AM
Great! @DTM, Can you tell us more about your meals at Dini's?
We'll be staying at the Fairmont soon, and they said they contacted Dini's and Dini's said they couldn't provide breakfast.
We made arrangements directly, rather than through the hotel, and our hotel was sufficiently close by that the delivery man came via bicycle. I met him in the lobby. My wife and I called and spoke with Rebitzen Dini from home in advance (using Google Voice App) and then picked up on WeChat. The food was good. The Shabbos meals were excellent; weekday dinners were fine, maybe like Yun Kee or Wok Tov in NY. We were there in May 2017.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 08, 2018, 03:12:18 PM


...and:

The Chinese dishes at Dini's Kosher Restaurant in PEK are phenomenal--may be the best I've ever had.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: yoss6400 on February 13, 2018, 02:07:39 PM
"China on Thursday extended its visa-free period for people transiting through Beijing to 144 hours"
that's 6 days for visa-free transit
So that means if I travel to China for 4 days only I do not need any Visa?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on February 13, 2018, 02:58:50 PM
So that means if I travel to China for 4 days only I do not need any Visa?
Depends. There are restrictions on who and how can use the transit. If you travel from country A to Beijing and have an onward ticket to country B with a US passport then you are good to go. Let' say you fly from Denver to Beijing, spend 4 days there and then continue from Beijing to Seoul, then you can use this visa-free transit.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on February 13, 2018, 02:59:53 PM
So that means if I travel to China for 4 days only I do not need any Visa?
Of your returning to where you came from you always need a visa. You don't need one if you're stopping in China and continuing on to another country.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: yoss6400 on February 13, 2018, 03:00:54 PM
Depends. There are restrictions on who and how can use the transit. If you travel from country A to Beijing and have an onward ticket to country B with a US passport then you are good to go. Let' say you fly from Denver to Beijing, spend 4 days there and then continue from Beijing to Seoul, then you can use this visa-free transit.
Jfk to can for 4 days and return
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on February 13, 2018, 04:29:00 PM
Jfk to can for 4 days and return
it's not going to work
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Theg on July 12, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
Can anyone recommend a good driver and a tour guide?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on July 13, 2018, 12:38:30 AM
Can anyone recommend a good driver and a tour guide?
The tour company I used was great! Contact them. See my TR for details.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: rkg27 on August 23, 2018, 10:11:26 AM
Can anyone recommend a good driver and a tour guide?

Not sure if this is too late but we used Skye, she was amazing and very helpful.  She arranged a private car to take us around for a 2 day tour that she designed based on what we wanted to do.  She also was basically our private photographer so we were able to get good pictures at all of the sites.  Here is a link to her tripadvisor page:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g294212-d2369360-Reviews-Beijing_Private_Guide_Skye-Beijing.html

and email: skyegao2008@gmail.com
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: izrib2 on September 08, 2018, 10:14:48 PM
Best way to get to China from NY for canton fair oct 21 to 25 points options
Thanks
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on November 12, 2018, 08:49:58 PM
Have a upcoming trip to HKG and trying to figure out if it's worth doing a 12 hr stopover in PEK
With all the traffic in PEK could I get anything done with a 12hr stopover?
My flight out would be 5:30PM how long before the flight do I need to be back in the airport?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: rkg27 on November 12, 2018, 08:59:44 PM
Have a upcoming trip to HKG and trying to figure out if it's worth doing a 12 hr stopover in PEK
With all the traffic in PEK could I get anything done with a 12hr stopover?
My flight out would be 5:30PM how long before the flight do I need to be back in the airport?

Really depends on what you want to do, If it was me I would hire a car to pick me up at the airport and go to the great wall of china, it is easy and quick from the airport and very worthwhile. Beyond that 12 hours is enough time to go into the city just budget your time well, it takes a while to get through customs/passport control. 
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 12, 2018, 11:04:49 PM
Really depends on what you want to do, If it was me I would hire a car to pick me up at the airport and go to the great wall of china, it is easy and quick from the airport and very worthwhile. Beyond that 12 hours is enough time to go into the city just budget your time well, it takes a while to get through customs/passport control.
+1, not to mention traffic in the city. The wall at Mutanyu is closer to the airport than the city itself (city-------->airport---------->wall at Mutanyu), so it's easier to to just to the wall. Just find a private guide who will pick you up and take you there. Going into the city can take a long time because of traffic.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on November 13, 2018, 08:45:51 PM
+1, not to mention traffic in the city. The wall at Mutanyu is closer to the airport than the city itself (city-------->airport---------->wall at Mutanyu), so it's easier to to just to the wall. Just find a private guide who will pick you up and take you there. Going into the city can take a long time because of traffic.
Just the wall will fill up 12hrs?
I land at 4am and my flight out is at 5.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: rkg27 on November 13, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Just the wall will fill up 12hrs?
I land at 4am and my flight out is at 5.

Probably not, but just depends on what you want to see, but the wall plus the city is hard to do all in one day and to get back to the airport in time for an international flight. A few other great sights are the forbidden city, temple of heaven, tianamen square, or go to the markets for shopping for knock offs. Up to you how to prioritize.

Check out my trip report, but i would not attempt to fit too much in, the first class lounge for china is very nice.  Can do an authentic tea ceremony there.  https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=95279.0
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 13, 2018, 09:14:57 PM
Just the wall will fill up 12hrs?
I land at 4am and my flight out is at 5.
It won't fill up the entire 12 hours, but you will be left with a very small amount of time to see the city. If your flight out is at 5 p.m., you need to be at the airport at 3 p.m. I know it sounds like a lot of time ahead of your flight, but the immigration lines and to leave the country can be quite long and they move very slowly. There are also no cues for premium passengers. Like the previous poster mentioned, there are other towards you that you can do in Tiananmen Square and the Forbidden City. The tutor I did started there and then went to the wall, and the whole thing took from approximately 6 a.m. pickup at the airport until 6 p.m. drop off at my hotel. If you got a private guide, you can certainly do it a lot quicker, but I would do it in that order. First the Forbidden City in Tiananmen Square and then the wall. The main reason is is that traffic going into the city is going to be a lot worse later in the day. At 4 a.m. it shouldn't be that bad. Plus since the wall is close to the airport, they can just drop you back off at the airport instead of going all the way into the city.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: rkg27 on November 13, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
It won't fill up the entire 12 hours, but you will be left with a very small amount of time to see the city. If your flight out is at 5 p.m., you need to be at the airport at 3 p.m. I know it sounds like a lot of time ahead of your flight, but the immigration lines and to leave the country can be quite long and they move very slowly. There are also no cues for premium passengers. Like the previous poster mentioned, there are other towards you that you can do in Tiananmen Square and the Forbidden City. The tutor I did started there and then went to the wall, and the whole thing took from approximately 6 a.m. pickup at the airport until 6 p.m. drop off at my hotel. If you got a private guide, you can certainly do it a lot quicker, but I would do it in that order. First the Forbidden City in Tiananmen Square and then the wall. The main reason is is that traffic going into the city is going to be a lot worse later in the day. At 4 a.m. it shouldn't be that bad. Plus since the wall is close to the airport, they can just drop you back off at the airport instead of going all the way into the city.

I would agree with yehoshua's idea of doing tianamen and forbidden city first, but you will need to hire a private guide with a car for all of this or it wont work.  Also make sure that those locations are actually open on those days and times.  With a private guide you usually also get to skip the lines and security checks that take a long time to get in to those areas.  If you want to see chairman Mao in his tomb you will have to wait on line for that otherwise tianamen square is just a like it sounds a big square with lots of "secret" police.  Forbidden city can take a very short or long amount of time depending on how quickly you move, in general once you've seen the outside of one building you've seen them all so easy to move quickly through forbidden city.  It should take about 90 minutes to 2.5 hrs to get to the wall depending on which part you go to.  The farther one is better but takes a lot more time.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ItzikF on November 15, 2018, 02:54:47 AM
Im coming in Friday from TLV through Moscow and leaving Monday to Hong Kong. Its less than 144 hours. Jst making sure that i understood correctly that i dont need a visa?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on November 15, 2018, 09:43:48 AM
Im coming in Friday from TLV through Moscow and leaving Monday to Hong Kong. Its less than 144 hours. Jst making sure that i understood correctly that i dont need a visa?
Correct. No visa needed.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ItzikF on November 15, 2018, 12:07:42 PM
OK great thx :) Saved me a lot of time and money 8)
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on January 03, 2019, 09:54:01 PM
Do I need a Visa?
Arriving Shanghai on Tuesday flying in from HKG
Departing Beijing on Thursday flying direct to Hanoi
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 04, 2019, 01:11:35 AM
Do I need a Visa?
Arriving Shanghai on Tuesday flying in from HKG
Departing Beijing on Thursday flying direct to Hanoi
Yes. You're traveling within China. If you arrived in either city and left from the same city, then no.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ItzikF on January 04, 2019, 08:16:03 AM
Do I need a Visa?
Arriving Shanghai on Tuesday flying in from HKG
Departing Beijing on Thursday flying direct to Hanoi
Visas for Americans are more expensive than for Israelis and I think also Europeans. If your a dual citizen check the options.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: MosheP on January 07, 2019, 06:15:33 AM
Will get a visa in NYC
Do I need an invitation or similar? Or hotel and flight reservations are sufficient?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 07, 2019, 09:20:26 AM
Will get a visa in NYC
Do I need an invitation or similar? Or hotel and flight reservations are sufficient?
Yes, you need a visa before getting to China. No invitation necessary. Just look on the conaolate's website for what you'll need.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ItzikF on January 28, 2019, 07:20:04 AM
Trying to book an apartment on Airbnb. Keep on getting rejected. They say that they dont take foreign visitors. Anyone ever have this problem?
TIA
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 28, 2019, 09:09:03 AM
Trying to book an apartment on Airbnb. Keep on getting rejected. They say that they dont take foreign visitors. Anyone ever have this problem?
TIA
No, because I booked a hotel. Why don't you?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: ItzikF on January 28, 2019, 12:08:52 PM
No, because I booked a hotel. Why don't you?
Spending a couple days including Shabbos, more comfortable in an apartment
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: shwarmabob on January 28, 2019, 07:06:44 PM
Trying to book an apartment on Airbnb. Keep on getting rejected. They say that they dont take foreign visitors. Anyone ever have this problem?
TIA
We stayed in a couple of airbnbs. did not have an issue with making reservations but did have some difficulties later with communication as none of the hosts spoke English.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: rkg27 on January 29, 2019, 01:16:48 PM
Spending a couple days including Shabbos, more comfortable in an apartment

There are very beautiful hotels right near the chabad if you are hoping to spend shabbas by them.  The NUO hotel is amazing and very inexpensive. 
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on April 21, 2019, 11:58:15 PM
I need to be in Jiujiang, Jiangxi, for a week. Anyone know if there is a chabd remotely near here.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on May 12, 2019, 06:33:08 PM
Landing at 1:35 at PEK. Is 2 hours enough time to make a connection?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 12, 2019, 06:47:13 PM
Landing at 1:35 at PEK. Is 2 hours enough time to make a connection?
I'm not sure if they have a sterile transit. If they do, it's enough time. If they don't it's not enough time.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: zow on May 12, 2019, 06:56:39 PM
I'm not sure if they have a sterile transit. If they do, it's enough time. If they don't it's not enough time.
+1
I suppose it depends on the connection — if same airline and staying within China, maybe fine.   But transiting internationally doubt you will make it.  We flew YYZ-PEK on AC and had a 3+ hour connection to CX to HKG and missed it due to immigration delays.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on May 21, 2019, 07:15:25 PM
I have a 5 hour stop at the airport. Will I make it to chabad, get lunch, and make it back?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 22, 2019, 12:36:47 AM
I have a 5 hour stop at the airport. Will I make it to chabad, get lunch, and make it back?
Not a chance. It'll take you 30-60 minutes to get outside the airport, at least an hour to drive each way, then 60-90 minutes to go through customs on your way out. All that for just a lunch? Not with it IMO.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Dave321 on May 22, 2019, 07:05:24 AM
Not a chance. It'll take you 30-60 minutes to get outside the airport, at least an hour to drive each way, then 60-90 minutes to go through customs on your way out. All that for just a lunch? Not with it IMO.
I hear. What about getting food delivery to the airport?

Can I bring in raw meat and chicken in?
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on May 22, 2019, 10:12:14 AM
I hear. What about getting food delivery to the airport?

Can I bring in raw meat and chicken in?
I don't know if they will do that, but you'd still need to exit customs to pick up the food which may not be worth it.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Kobe bryent on January 16, 2020, 12:44:41 PM
Looking for a driver from PEK for day trip , any leads would be appreciated.
TIA
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on January 16, 2020, 01:23:04 PM
Looking for a driver from PEK for day trip , any leads would be appreciated.
TIA
The company I used was great. See my TR for details.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: mliebs1457 on January 16, 2020, 02:05:29 PM
We used this guy
William Beijing Tour
+86 152 0104 5801
You can whatsapp him at this number. We had a great day trip with him.
Title: Re: Beijing Master Thread
Post by: jonesy on January 17, 2020, 07:35:35 PM
Looking for a driver from PEK for day trip , any leads would be appreciated.
TIA

We used this company http://best-our.com/
for a mutianyu Great Wall day trip. We didn’t actually have them guide us, just pick up and drop off and buying tickets for us for the cable car and alpine slide. They were honest (no price changes or unwanted “factory” stops to try to sell us stuff), reliable and spoke decent English if that’s all youre looking for (tours may also be good but don’t know).