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Title: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 07, 2008, 11:25:09 AM
Dear Friends,

 I am planning a trip to Thailand later this month and I have seen online all of the great work that Chabad is doing there. I would love to hear eyewitness reports from anyone who has been to the Chabad Restaurants in Phuket or Chiang Mai. How's the food?  Have you spent Shabbos there?

Thanks a lot,
Dave

Title: Re: Kosher Thailand
Post by: ash on July 07, 2008, 11:50:56 AM
its been along time but i was in the kaho san rd at the kosher Restaurant it was awsome and unbelievable that they had one there
Title: Re: Kosher Thailand
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 08, 2008, 02:27:32 PM
Chiang Mai and Phuket (as well as Ko Samui) all have great and cheap food. It's subsidized especially so Israeli's who otherwise might eat non-kosher should be able to afford kosher. If you do go and use their services it is only nice that you leave a donation.

The place is great, November is a great time to do. Shabbat is unforgettable Good luck and enjoy
Title: Re: Kosher Thailand
Post by: Smirk on July 16, 2008, 08:25:06 PM
Where in thailand are you going? Bangkok?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 13, 2010, 01:36:55 AM
thanks for the offer on thailand,any recommendation's for phuket?we are looking for a hotel with a completely private personal pool? any places to eat? any preferences as to what there is to see/do there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 13, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
how long do you have in Phuket? do you davka want to stay there? Keep in mind weather it's rainy season on the andaman side (phuket) doesn't mean you'll see rain every day or all day, but definitely could be the case...

Beach is not really swimable this time of year, it can be dangerous, the sea is rough. forget about diving for the most part... there are diving options on the gulf of thailand which is an hour flight from Phuket on Bangkok Air (Ko Samui, Phangan and Ko Tao)... might be an idea to hop on over to Ko Samui, although prices there would be higher as it's high season due to the better weather. IF you would go to Ko Samui I highly recommend going to Ang Thong Marine Park for some amazing islands and views (it's a day trip which can include kayaking around islands and lots of other fun things for about $30 or so if i'm not mistaken).

Since ocean/weather isn't great this time of year, I would even suggest going to Chiang Mai (cheap flight with Air Asia) where there is a ton to do and great 5 star hotels for $70-80 a night.. great elephant riding through the jungle, bamboo rafting, tiger kingdom (play with tigers which are not sedated), flight of the gibbon through the jungle (look it up - pretty cool), trekking, white water rafting, great night market etc...

All three places (Samui, Chiang Mai and Phuket - Patong) have Chabad houses with kosher restaurants which charge pennies... (schnitzel sandwich $3, shish kabobs $4, falafel $2.50, etc....)

I personally didn't care for Phuket too much, Patong is the place most ppl go (and where Chabad is located)  but it's a bit slummy. I stayed at the JW Marriott which is on it's own beach, but it has lots of kids and no private pools.. Here is a list of some places with pools: http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293920-i5037-k2279113-Room_with_private_pool-Phuket.html

There is a great hotel 70 minute drive from Phuket airport, I've been there and had my own villa with a pool, it's called the Le Meridien Khao Lak. Down side is that you have to get kosher food brought in from Phuket, but I have a driver who can deliver for $50 or so... (it's 2 hour each way).. But the meridien is off the beaten path so if you're looking for lots of activities don't go there.

To sum up here are the choices as I see:
I would fly straight to Chiang Mai to get the real Thai experience, and leave the beaches/resorts to a different time (when weather is better, sea is calm etc...)

If you are really want sea islands, good weather I would fly an hour to Ko Samui (every hour there are flights) where the weather is suppose to be much better this time of year, and swimming in the sea is possible etc... if you do want to go there I can give you some more advice....

IF you prefer staying in Phuket, where the prices will be cheaper due to season, be prepared to spend some times indoor due to weather... a brand new Westin opened up this month, but they don't have private pools..

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 14, 2010, 08:17:00 AM
did you move from afghanistan to thailand?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 14, 2010, 09:22:35 AM
thanks so much!looks like we'll be only in phuket,i'm traveling with a one year old so too much flying is too hard!thanks so much for all the help!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 14, 2010, 09:53:46 AM
did you move from afghanistan to thailand?

Where did my icon go? I don't like this new forum... lol


thanks so much!looks like we'll be only in phuket,i'm traveling with a one year old so too much flying is too hard!thanks so much for all the help!

If you are traveling with a kid, I would strongly recommend the Khao Lak Meridien... They're villas are amazing... Here are pics of their villas:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dunkindonuts/sets/72157605922461173/

The hotel has a small petting zoo, and a bunch of other fun activities. They have a great kids club (Penguin club) with kids toys etc.. you can get them to babysit your kid for about $10 an hour and just have some quiet time.. they are extraordinary...  Transfer from the airport will cost $40 in a nice SUV... only down side is that food needs to be brought in... back when I was there it wasn't a problem.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 14, 2010, 10:35:30 AM
thanks though it looks too far out!rather stay centrally located,any recommendations as to what to do with a one year old? any other restaurants other than chabad?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 14, 2010, 10:38:25 AM
Wow! The Le Meridian Khao Lak is a SPG Category 3 hotel with tons of C&P availability!!!
Do they upgrade Plat's to the private villas with pools?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on July 14, 2010, 01:55:38 PM
Wow! The Le Meridian Khao Lak is a SPG Category 3 hotel with tons of C&P availability!!!
Do they upgrade Plat's to the private villas with pools?
Thinking of making another stop on your trip down under?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 14, 2010, 05:27:39 PM
Wow! The Le Meridian Khao Lak is a SPG Category 3 hotel with tons of C&P availability!!!
Do they upgrade Plat's to the private villas with pools?

Officially not, though it has happened... This is one of my favorite hotels in the world... (for kids that is) I was there and there wasn't a person in any of the pools/waterslides.. it was like having the place to myself.... I got a villa for $70 a night.. but don't bother asking ;-) maybe one day I'll right a trip report.. not sure if I want to share all these places :)

As play they'll give you an upgrade to a suite, from which you can further upgrade to villa for $70 a night. upgrades are very likely summer time because it's low season.

The pool villas are still cheapest in the world probably.. at $250 a night sometimes less.

Wait till you have kids, then it's worth going. The pool has a little jacuzzi at the end, which is really cool. totally private (unless you get the beachfront..)

Thailand has the best bang for your buck especially in 5 star hotels/resorts...

thanks though it looks too far out!rather stay centrally located,any recommendations as to what to do with a one year old? any other restaurants other than chabad?

Many, but none are kosher... you can go elephant riding, not a problem at all (done it with a 1 yr old) even bamboo rafting, though that's a little more tricky. Monkey shows are fun... NO LONGTAIL BOATS....
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 15, 2010, 09:30:05 AM
thank sos much,will do! any hotel recommendations within the main phuket area?more centrally located?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 15, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
Are you still looking for private pool? whats your budget? In Patong itself there  are few villas with private pools... Google patong and see some pics of what the place looks like... you may be disappointed if you were expecting this: http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=ko%20phi%20phi&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

Outside patong from about 20 minutes and on you can find private pools, but they won't be too cheap.. I would guess prices would start at $350 a night.. There are also hotels which have direct access to the main pools from your room (you walk outside your back door and you can access the pool straight from your room.)

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 15, 2010, 11:25:49 AM
i found a good deal in the sala resort with private pool,around 200 a night!patong seems a little sleazy,rather a quieter vacation,sounds like the beach near the sala resort is pretty quiet,just what i like!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 15, 2010, 01:50:24 PM
Great choice... Smart idea avoiding patong.. it's really sleazy! You can take a tuktuk or taxi there shouldnt be too expensive.. Just keep in mind the beach will probably not be what you are expecting... there will be big waves, it won't be clear etc... I highly doubt many people will be swimming..

You can pick up food from Chabad to go... I uploaded their menu for you:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_vWHaMDnoh3ZDE3ZTBjYTItYzdhMy00Njg5LWIzMWMtODNjNDcyYzMwYTVj&hl=en&authkey=CN2_96UP

Does not get cheaper than this! The prices are there, 32 baht = $1.

Some of the decent items are chicken legs (grilled), Pargiot, Schnitzel (sandwich)... They're wings were also decent and at $2 for 14 you can't go wrong
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 15, 2010, 02:06:12 PM
You can pick up food from Chabad to go... I uploaded their menu for you:

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_vWHaMDnoh3ZDE3ZTBjYTItYzdhMy00Njg5LWIzMWMtODNjNDcyYzMwYTVj&hl=en&authkey=CN2_96UP

Does not get cheaper than this! The prices are there, 32 baht = $1.

Some of the decent items are chicken legs (grilled), Pargiot, Schnitzel (sandwich)... They're wings were also decent and at $2 for 14 you can't go wrong
Amazing!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 15, 2010, 02:52:09 PM
we don't need a beach for swimming,just need a nice quiet place for walking/playing/relaxing with my kid,for swimming i hope to have a privat pool villa, figured that beach area would be a good spot. i can't see the menu,i need a gmail account,which i don't.any other way of viewing it?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 15, 2010, 03:30:48 PM
got the menu thanks!do they deliver whenever?would i be able to deliver breakfast,lunch and supper to my hotel?it is SO CHEAP!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 15, 2010, 06:14:54 PM
Phuket doesn't officially deliver, the rabbi is very nice perhaps he can find you a driver to deliver it but I wouldn't bank on it. I would say pick up food once a day for all meals.. Schnitzel sandwiches last no problems, israeli salads in containers.. they make great challah rolls..

Goes without saying that it's always a good idea to bring some backup, instant meals/soups, crackers with spreads etc... vacuum packed cold cuts will last you no problem.. the room has a fridge so you should be fine.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on July 16, 2010, 12:07:03 AM
ok,guess i'll go there each day to pick up food,thanks!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on August 15, 2010, 04:19:46 AM
Anyone back yet? trip reports?!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on August 23, 2010, 01:46:34 AM
hope to write one up bein hazmanim,after yom kippur
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Eli on August 28, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
Someone on the forums is currently in Phuket but I have a feeling he's not the type to write up a trip report.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 28, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
A trip report of Phuket doesn't have to be a chizuk for elul.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on August 29, 2010, 04:52:37 AM
A trip report of Phuket doesn't have to be a chizuk for elul.

:)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 01, 2010, 12:02:06 PM
OK, so I'm planning on arriving in Thailand (barring an earlier flight opening up) on a Wednesday at 11:55pm.
I have free accommodation in BKK.  I'm thinking maybe I should stay in BKK for Wednesday and Thursday night and fly Friday morning to HKT.
Levi told me to avoid the new Westin in Phuket so I guess that leaves the Le Meridian Khao Lak which is available for 2,800 points+$45 per night.

And then I'll fly back to HKG via BKK Sunday afternoon.

Make sense? Or should I go to Khao Lak on Thursday? Anything worthwhile in BKK? Is it safe?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on November 01, 2010, 12:15:10 PM
why not stay in phuket for longer? from what i've heard,bangkok is a better option over shabbos,not sure though
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 01, 2010, 12:21:17 PM
why not stay in phuket for longer? from what i've heard,bangkok is a better option over shabbos,not sure though
Is there nothing worth doing in BKK?  I'm going to have to be in BKK for Wednesday night due to arriving so late. 
I have completely free accommodation a hotel in BKK.

The question is whether I should go to HKT on Thursday or Friday.  Basically are there worthwhile things to do in BKK or not?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on November 01, 2010, 12:24:29 PM
cant tell you exactly,because when i was there it was a bit unstable.sorry i skipped bangkok and went straight to phuket
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on November 01, 2010, 12:34:57 PM
You can read about it here (http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thailand/bangkok)... ;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2010, 07:59:19 PM
Officially not, though it has happened... This is one of my favorite hotels in the world... (for kids that is) I was there and there wasn't a person in any of the pools/waterslides.. it was like having the place to myself.... I got a villa for $70 a night.. but don't bother asking ;-) maybe one day I'll right a trip report.. not sure if I want to share all these places :)

As play they'll give you an upgrade to a suite, from which you can further upgrade to villa for $70 a night. upgrades are very likely summer time because it's low season.

The pool villas are still cheapest in the world probably.. at $250 a night sometimes less.

Wait till you have kids, then it's worth going. The pool has a little jacuzzi at the end, which is really cool. totally private (unless you get the beachfront..)

Thailand has the best bang for your buck especially in 5 star hotels/resorts...

Many, but none are kosher... you can go elephant riding, not a problem at all (done it with a 1 yr old) even bamboo rafting, though that's a little more tricky. Monkey shows are fun... NO LONGTAIL BOATS....
I'm booked with 2,300 points+$45 at the LMKL.
I emailed them about upgrades during Xmas.  They're saying that there's no comp upgrades to pool villas and that it's 12k to pool villa and 16k to oceanfront pool villa.
Any tips? Think it's worth it?
I wonder if I upgrade for 1 night if they'll let me stay there...

So is there anything to see in BKK for a day or 2?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: momo on November 08, 2010, 08:05:39 PM
Official policy may be no upgrades to pool villa but i know s\o who got upgraded but i guess like e\t YMMV
As for bangkok i was there not that much to see but just walking around going to the markets seeing all those interesting things they call food ie.. bugs dog rats etc... may be disgusting but it is def fascinating imho
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2010, 08:10:24 PM
Official policy may be no upgrades to pool villa but i know s\o who got upgraded but i guess like e\t YMMV
Was it during peak season?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: momo on November 08, 2010, 08:11:32 PM
Not sure when peak season is but it was during march
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 14, 2010, 02:36:28 AM
Peak season you can forget about upgrade to pool villa at LMKL, also doubtful you'll get a suite if it's around holiday time... it will be packed, lots of german guests.... the pool villa is outta this world... I would go again and pay for it.... it was very much worth it. I would tell you to pay for it and go all out!! you can't get a better bang for your buck... (I can look for some pics, somewhere...)

Considering you've been already to nice beach places (Hawaii etc..) why not consider getting the real thai experience and going up north to Chiang Mai... they have a great Le Meridien.. price is a joke and you'll be able to see and do crazy things.... if you are interested let me know I can make some suggestions... personally I would much rather this than just going to a crowded resort... 

Things to do in Chiang Mai: Great elephant treks through the jungle, bamboo rafting down the rivers, crazy white water rafting, tiger kingdom (unbelievable, go in cages with full sized tigers take pics, done it and it's very neat... http://www.tigerkingdom.com/Picture/pic-june-10.html), monkey shows, renting a motor bike for a few days for $10 a day....  flight of the gibbon (http://www.treetopasia.com/)

They have a chabad house, with great kosher food... close walking distance from hotel.... it's not the island experience but this is one of a kind... The most amazing sunday market, as well as a night market... lots of other things I can't think of right now...

Depending on where you decide to stay, I would tell you if it's worth stopping in BKK. I personally enjoyed it a lot... it's a busy city, but lots to do.. also might wanna consider gettting some tailoring done and having them send it back or something... it's totally safe!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 14, 2010, 02:41:12 AM
Any tips? Think it's worth it?
I wonder if I upgrade for 1 night if they'll let me stay there...
So is there anything to see in BKK for a day or 2?

If you do decide to go to LMKL, I would say go for the villa, otherwise there's no special reason to go all the way out there.... staying one night they won't let you stay the rest... this is HIGH SEASON!! SUPER HIGH! when I got upgraded it was June (which is lowest season) and also after all the riots so hotel was only 15% full...

You might wanna check out Sheraton Krabi as well... And lastly if you are not planning on upgrading the villa, then maybe forget about Khao Lak and consider checking out the JW Marriott in Phuket... (no Khao Lak JW) the reg. rooms in JW are nicer than reg rooms in LM and it's also closer to the airport... they have a swim up bar and lotsa neat things...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Deal Guy on November 14, 2010, 02:51:07 AM
Peak season you can forget about upgrade to pool villa at LMKL, also doubtful you'll get a suite if it's around holiday time... it will be packed, lots of german guests.... the pool villa is outta this world... I would go again and pay for it.... it was very much worth it. I would tell you to pay for it and go all out!! you can't get a better bang for your buck... (I can look for some pics, somewhere...)

Considering you've been already to nice beach places (Hawaii etc..) why not consider getting the real thai experience and going up north to Chiang Mai... they have a great Le Meridien.. price is a joke and you'll be able to see and do crazy things.... if you are interested let me know I can make some suggestions... personally I would much rather this than just going to a crowded resort... 

Things to do in Chiang Mai: Great elephant treks through the jungle, bamboo rafting down the rivers, crazy white water rafting, tiger kingdom (unbelievable, go in cages with full sized tigers take pics, done it and it's very neat... http://www.tigerkingdom.com/Picture/pic-june-10.html), monkey shows, renting a motor bike for a few days for $10 a day....  flight of the gibbon (http://www.treetopasia.com/)

They have a chabad house, with great kosher food... close walking distance from hotel.... it's not the island experience but this is one of a kind... The most amazing sunday market, as well as a night market... lots of other things I can't think of right now...

Depending on where you decide to stay, I would tell you if it's worth stopping in BKK. I personally enjoyed it a lot... it's a busy city, but lots to do.. also might wanna consider gettting some tailoring done and having them send it back or something... it's totally safe!
Can you explain the Tiger place?!  I'm assuming they don't have all teeth and claws, but still they are big beasts, and they could be having a bad day..........
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 14, 2010, 08:45:27 AM
Can you explain the Tiger place?!  I'm assuming they don't have all teeth and claws, but still they are big beasts, and they could be having a bad day..........

Believe it or not, they do actually have all teeth and claws... the tigers are raised around people, they are (hopefully) trained to not bite or harm people... they are used to having people around them and they are fed proper meals as needed...

They have 4 different size tigers... you pay to go into their cage with a trainer or two depending on their size... the little cubs are a joke, very neat for kids... the big ones (weighing over 300lbs) are a different story...  at no time did I feel threatened or anything like that.

If anyone does plan on going I recommend going first thing in the morning before the crowds start coming... also the tigers shouldn't be hungry just yet...

here are a couple pics...
http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/9753/49944770.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4507/tk2v.jpg
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2010, 10:34:20 AM
Wow, that tiger thing is crazy!

OK so Khao Lak versus Chiang Mai.

In KL I have the cat. 3 LM reserved with cash and points.  I can upgrade to a pool villa for 12k/night or the oceanfront pool villa for 16k/night.  Have you see both of those?  Pictures? 
I guess when you realize that a regular room at a cat. 6 SPG goes for 20K/night then those upgrade fees to a pool villa don't see all that bad!

Are there activities in KL?  I think I saw there are at least elephant rides and the like there and there's some sort of nature reserve (safari?) nearby.

But the CM activities do sound fun and being close to the shul is definitely a plus.
The hotel there is a cat. 2 with no cash and points.  Plus on the 25th they only have deluxe rooms so that
will be an extra 1,000 points that night.

What would you do Chikky?  Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 14, 2010, 11:27:12 AM
Peak season you can forget about upgrade to pool villa at LMKL, also doubtful you'll get a suite if it's around holiday time... it will be packed, lots of german guests.... the pool villa is outta this world... I would go again and pay for it.... it was very much worth it. I would tell you to pay for it and go all out!! you can't get a better bang for your buck... (I can look for some pics, somewhere...)

Considering you've been already to nice beach places (Hawaii etc..) why not consider getting the real thai experience and going up north to Chiang Mai... they have a great Le Meridien.. price is a joke and you'll be able to see and do crazy things.... if you are interested let me know I can make some suggestions... personally I would much rather this than just going to a crowded resort... 

Things to do in Chiang Mai: Great elephant treks through the jungle, bamboo rafting down the rivers, crazy white water rafting, tiger kingdom (unbelievable, go in cages with full sized tigers take pics, done it and it's very neat... http://www.tigerkingdom.com/Picture/pic-june-10.html), monkey shows, renting a motor bike for a few days for $10 a day....  flight of the gibbon (http://www.treetopasia.com/)

They have a chabad house, with great kosher food... close walking distance from hotel.... it's not the island experience but this is one of a kind... The most amazing sunday market, as well as a night market... lots of other things I can't think of right now...

Depending on where you decide to stay, I would tell you if it's worth stopping in BKK. I personally enjoyed it a lot... it's a busy city, but lots to do.. also might wanna consider gettting some tailoring done and having them send it back or something... it's totally safe!
+1000%

I absolutely LOVED Chiang Mai! If you can afford it, spring for the Mandarin Oriental. It's constantly ranked as one of the top ten hotels on earth and is not (relatively) that expensive.

Oh and the Chabad there has fantastic food. Much better than all of the other places in Thailand. Shliyach there is a great guy
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2010, 11:36:41 AM
+1000%

I absolutely LOVED Chiang Mai! If you can afford it, spring for the Mandarin Oriental. It's constantly ranked as one of the top ten hotels on earth and is not (relatively) that expensive.

Oh and the Chabad there has fantastic food. Much better than all of the other places in Thailand. Shliyach there is a great guy

As much as I'd love to, $700/night just isn't in the budget.

Have you been to the LMCM? 

Man, the private pool villa at the LMKL or the better activities in LMCM...decisions, decisions.

At least I didn't book the BKK-HKT ticket yet.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on November 14, 2010, 12:31:42 PM
I was only in bkk.
It smells like me'o sheorim, but otherwise you maybe have a 1,5 day program.

The tiger thing is crazy, just look on youtube for animals attacking humans.

The tigers aren't the biggest in this area, but nonetheless...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 14, 2010, 12:55:24 PM
As much as I'd love to, $700/night just isn't in the budget.

Is it really that expensive? When we went, it was $400 plus the 3rd night free. I saw the Le Merdien and its in a great location right next to the Chabad. Did you read the reviews on FT?

Among other things, we loved the Night Market and Thai Boxing which were also within walking distance of Chabad and the Le Meridien.

I would do Chiang Mai over Phuket because Phuket is not so authentic Thailand (other than the people who approach you at night) while Chiang Mai and the Golden Triangle is an experience unmatched elsewhere. Try and do the day trips to Laos or Cambodia. Even more so if you speak fluent Hebrew. There are more Israelis in those parts than Brooklyn and LA combined
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 14, 2010, 02:04:48 PM
Here are my thoughts...

Khao Lak is a very nice place. But there are plenty of nice places you've been to... What sets it apart are the villas and the service... you get a small private pool, full privacy etc... if you go holiday season it'll be packed, and you might not enjoy it as much... beautiful islands around there as well, but again everything is packed, tznius can be a bit of an issue this time of year....

I would vote for Chiang Mai, you'll experience the real Thailand... I would skip the golden triangle if you are short on time as traveling each direction is a few hours, and you would feel rushed.

The Chaing Mai Le Meridien has wonderful corner suites, with the most amazing bathroom and huge square bath overlooking the mountains.. the hotel is very modern and nice...

Skip the Mandarin, it's gorgeous but way way too expensive (unless you're looking to throw money away..) If you go to Chiang Mai you can skip Bangkok all together as Chiang Mai is the real deal...

You can't compare activities in Phuket to Chiang Mai... the greenery is unbelievable..

Thing I would recommend:

Mae Se Elephant Show (the best one there)
Elephant riding at a different camp (for riding it's better than Mae Se, I'll look it up for you)
Bamboo Rafting down the river
Tiger Kingdom (it's a must!! There is one near Bangkok but there they do things to the tigers, here the tigers are treated well...)
Monkey Show and feedings...
Visit a Long Neck Tribe (it's touristy...)
Sunday Market (it's sunday evening but the most amazing market ever!! cheap souvenirs, hand made things etc... best market I've ever seen)
Night market for cheap knockoffs... (also can bring a photo and for $60 can have them oil paint it unbelievable artists... give it a try)
Riding around town in a TukTuk....
You have an adventure center right outside chiang mai... great bungee and other extreme sports...
ATV tours....

and lots more...

Go to Chiang Mai!! You won't regret it! then go to Khao Lak next time, during low season, much cheaper, quieter and relaxing....

lemme know if you have any questions...

BTW shabbos in Chiang Mai is great!! you'll love it!


They have plenty of other activities... your wife may enjoy a ride along the river in a longtail boat, they take you to a cooking school   
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2010, 02:56:37 PM
The LMCM does look great and there's def. tons to do in CM.

But having our own private pool villa surrounded by walls in Khao Lak and just relaxing is very enticing, especially after many long flights and with many activities planned in MEL, Tassie, and SYD afterward.

Also for now I'm going to have to spend at least 1 night in BKK as we arrive at 11:55pm unless another flight opens up.

Maybe I'll flip a coin...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 14, 2010, 07:22:05 PM
Thanks for all the Chiang Mai info Chikky, I'll definitely keep it in mind for next time, but I think we'll just relax at our private pool in Khao Lak this time...

So we arrive in BKK late Wednesday night.
How long should we spend in BKK?
Obviously we'll spend Wednesday night.
Should we just spend part of a day and fly to HKT Thursday evening/night or should we leave Friday morning?

Also should we buy shabbos food at Chabad of BKK or HKT?

What's the best way to get from HKT to Khao Lak? Metered taxi from the airport?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Deal Guy on November 15, 2010, 12:48:30 AM
Dan, I'm happy you decided against spending time with some tigers......
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 15, 2010, 01:17:51 AM
My guess would be that if you stay too long in BKK once you get to your villa you'll regret not being there long enough... so probably don't stay in BKK too long... I don't have any special attractions to recommend... there is a famous palace (Grand Palace), there are markets, tailors (I can recommend one...) etc...

Book your ticket to Phuket sooner rather than later, it'll be cheaper... Air Asia is the way to go normally the cheapest... For a ride to Khao Lak I recommend contacting Boss at cheaper_khaolak@ymail.com make a reservation with him and he'll send a driver to pick you up. He works out of Khao Lak and is a great help... (I used him to pick up food for me on Friday, and if he has a ride to Patong beach - where chabad is, he will give you a discounted rate... ) price should be 1200 baht from airport to the LMKL...

If you wanna save on schlepping food on Friday might be worth getting from BKK on thursday....  Friday you can definitely get nice fresh food and challah from Phuket but you will need to arrange the driver... if you don't have a pickup/drop off, you can end up paying full fare which is 1800baht I believe.

Once at the LM you can take a trip to Similan Islands which is suppose to be nice... you can go to an elephant camp just up the road from the LM... you can go to a nice small market in Khao Lak city to get tropical fruit, not open every day though... while there check out the famous police boat which was washed to shore during the Tsunami (khao lak was completely destroyed - check out pics of LM after the tsunami http://www.kleptography.com/gallery-tsunami.htm)

let me know if you have other questions....
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2010, 01:48:11 AM
Seems like the airport is right between patong and khao lak, so it won't make any sense to go down to patong to pick up food.  I guess we'll probably never make it Phuket itself at all.

Will Chabad in BKK have shabbos food on Tursday to pick up?

Nothing else in BKK worthwhile besides markets?  In that case I guess we should just go to Khao Lak sometime on Thursday?  How long will it take to check out some markets in BKK and go to Chabad to eat and pick up food for the rest of the time in Thailand?

The only reason not to buy the AirAsia flights now is if Cathay Pacific opens up an earlier flight from HKG-BKK on Wednesday we would take it and then maybe just skip BKK completely and go to HKT for wednesday.
Any idea when flights start going up in price?  They've been pretty steady at 5,000 Baht since I started looking.

Thanks again!

How much should an elephant ride in Khao Lak cost? 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 15, 2010, 08:29:01 AM
Most of the restaurant food throughout the week can work for shabbos... they have Israeli dips, shnitzel, rolls, etc.... be sure to take stuff from home as well... at 5,000 baht that's already not the cheapest, I'm sure it can still go up, but I See what you're saying...

Elephant rides in CM run for about 1000-1500 including bamboo rafting.. so should be a little cheaper without that.

The Villas supervisor is tip, be sure to tell her that you have special diet and would like only fresh fruit.... you can arrange to have the butler deliver them each morning at a certain time... she'll probably even make you a list of the available fruit so you can select each day what you want.

The resort has its own elephant which is neat. Also you can borrow kayaks and rent some other boats on premises...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2010, 02:57:59 PM
The flights when down slightly today.  I guess we'll fly from BKK to HKT on Thursday.  How much time do I need to hit up Chabad and some markets in BKK and still catch a flight.  How far is the airport from Chabad and when will I need to leave to catch a domestic flight?

I can go at:
7:30am for 4,030 RT.
4:55pm for 4,370 RT.
8:30pm for 4,620 RT.
9:15pm for 4,370 RT.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 15, 2010, 03:19:04 PM
The flights when down slightly today.  I guess we'll fly from BKK to HKT on Thursday.  How much time do I need to hit up Chabad and some markets in BKK and still catch a flight.  How far is the airport from Chabad and when will I need to leave to catch a domestic flight?

I can go at:
7:30am for 4,030 RT.
4:55pm for 4,370 RT.
8:30pm for 4,620 RT.
9:15pm for 4,370 RT.


Don't forget the Grand Palace!

I'd take the 4:55 PM flight. Leave at about 2:45 and you'll be fine....
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 15, 2010, 03:26:12 PM
Don't forget the Grand Palace!

I'd take the 4:55 PM flight. Leave at about 2:45 and you'll be fine....
How much time should I allow for the Grand Palace, eating/picking up food at Chabad, and checking out some markets?
Seems like even if we start the day at 8am that leaving the city at 2:45pm may be too aggressive, no?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on November 16, 2010, 02:11:00 AM
How much time should I allow for the Grand Palace, eating/picking up food at Chabad, and checking out some markets?
Seems like even if we start the day at 8am that leaving the city at 2:45pm may be too aggressive, no?

Should be fine. You can do the markets in Phuket as well. Nothing to special about the ones in BKK. Vendors speak hebrew in both. Get ready to negotiate in NIS
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 16, 2010, 08:29:54 AM
Should be fine. You can do the markets in Phuket as well. Nothing to special about the ones in BKK. Vendors speak hebrew in both. Get ready to negotiate in NIS
I'm not sure I'll actually make it to Phuket proper.  Seems like a long way to go from Khao Lak to Phuket.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on November 16, 2010, 08:56:05 AM
I think 2:45 might be a little risky... depending on where you are staying you could have to deal with traffic, also you prob wanna go to the Chabad house on the way to airport so you don't schlep the food around town with you... if you wanna see the palace, and markets etc... I would play safe and take the next flight... as long as you are willing to sacrifice some time from Khao Lak.. I don't want you to feel you didn't have enough time there.  if you're worried about that, than skip some things in BKK and go earlier to Khao Lak...

I would skip phuket altogether. its not too nice and its a real distance!

There is a tailor in bangkokg that is frequented by US embassy members... Bush sr. shops there when he's in BKK and there are pics all over the wall... shirts are $30, if you are interested it's called Rajawongse right near the Landmark hotel.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 01, 2010, 11:40:01 AM
Here are my thoughts...

Khao Lak is a very nice place. But there are plenty of nice places you've been to... What sets it apart are the villas and the service... you get a small private pool, full privacy etc... if you go holiday season it'll be packed, and you might not enjoy it as much... beautiful islands around there as well, but again everything is packed, tznius can be a bit of an issue this time of year....

I would vote for Chiang Mai, you'll experience the real Thailand... I would skip the golden triangle if you are short on time as traveling each direction is a few hours, and you would feel rushed.

The Chaing Mai Le Meridien has wonderful corner suites, with the most amazing bathroom and huge square bath overlooking the mountains.. the hotel is very modern and nice...

Skip the Mandarin, it's gorgeous but way way too expensive (unless you're looking to throw money away..) If you go to Chiang Mai you can skip Bangkok all together as Chiang Mai is the real deal...

You can't compare activities in Phuket to Chiang Mai... the greenery is unbelievable..

Thing I would recommend:

Mae Se Elephant Show (the best one there)
Elephant riding at a different camp (for riding it's better than Mae Se, I'll look it up for you)
Bamboo Rafting down the river
Tiger Kingdom (it's a must!! There is one near Bangkok but there they do things to the tigers, here the tigers are treated well...)
Monkey Show and feedings...
Visit a Long Neck Tribe (it's touristy...)
Sunday Market (it's sunday evening but the most amazing market ever!! cheap souvenirs, hand made things etc... best market I've ever seen)
Night market for cheap knockoffs... (also can bring a photo and for $60 can have them oil paint it unbelievable artists... give it a try)
Riding around town in a TukTuk....
You have an adventure center right outside chiang mai... great bungee and other extreme sports...
ATV tours....

and lots more...

Go to Chiang Mai!! You won't regret it! then go to Khao Lak next time, during low season, much cheaper, quieter and relaxing....

lemme know if you have any questions...

BTW shabbos in Chiang Mai is great!! you'll love it!


They have plenty of other activities... your wife may enjoy a ride along the river in a longtail boat, they take you to a cooking school   
OK Chikky, looks like I'll wind up being in Thailand from Tuesday-Sunday now!

How much time do I need in Chiang Mai?

I arrive in BKK at 11am Tuesday and can be in in Chiang Mai 3pm.
The LM there has cash and points, just 1,100 points +$30...awesome!
How much time do I need in Chiang Mai?
I guess I would go to Phuket either Thursday afternoon or Thursday evening?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 01, 2010, 04:27:31 PM
Great choice... really depends on what you want to do... a lot of the attractions are next to each other and can be done the same day (if you just want to run through them.)

I would on Tuesday stay in town and not do any attractions, if you land at three tiil you're settled in hotel will be 4:30... I would just go to the restaurant and maybe spend the evening at the night market, walking around, message (not to mention the fish pedicure...) etc...

For the next day I would rent a driver for the entire day... forgot what it would cost, maybe $30-50.. you can ask at Chabad... I would start with Tiger Kingdom, arrive right when they open at 9:00am I believe. Then the other things I would schedule is the Maese elephant show (http://www.maesaelephantcamp.com/services.html) which is at 1:30, but elephant riding and bamboo rafting I would elsewhere, there's a better place forgot the name, any driver there should know.... perhaps schedule that between tigers and the show if time permits. You can also fit a monkey show the same day, last about 20 minutes but hanging around the other monkeys is fun, so and hour should do, there are two good places in the same area (all within 15-20 minute drive of each other)...

Other interesting things in the same area: extreme sports (bungee and some other fun things atv etc... http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/ but I wouldn't do these until atleast I finished all of the above mentioned...)

There are snake shows in the area as well... Orchid farm (nothing there...)

For the next day your wife may appreciate a cruise on the Chiang Mai river... it's a thai boat, boat varies depending on amount of guests (we had a small 4 seater to ourselves) you go about 20-30 minutes down the river, they take you to a nice farm house where their cooking school is located, you see the most amazing garden with herbs, lemongrass, tropical fruit and vegetables all growing right beside each other.... highly recommend if you want a relaxing couple of hours... They'll pick you up from your hotel... (http://www.maepingrivercruise.com/)

Other activities would include a trip to the longneck tribe (I didn't bother but might be interesting - http://www.google.com/images?q=chiang+mai+long+neck+tribe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1417&bih=672)

White water rafting.... probably half day trip if not full...

Why are you going to phuket? do you mean Khao Lak? do you think it's worth it? will you go for the villa?

Another option might be considering going straight from BKK to Chiang Rai, check out the Chian Rai Le Meridien, this is on the border of Laos and Cambodia... interesting spot.. you can spend a day two nights... thursday morning fly or drive to Chiang Mai (3-4 hour drive but lots of curves and mountains etc...) then spend thurs friday activities, and shabbos right there where you'll have a good meal, shabbos, etc...) Chiang Rai LM looks very impressive...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on December 01, 2010, 05:06:19 PM
Wow, you really know that part of the world down to the last detail...
Really enjoy reading.
One day ill get there...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 01, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
Wow, thanks Chikky!!!

So let's say I want to hit up the
-Tiger Kingdom
-Elephant show
-Elephant riding and bamboo rafting
-Monkey show

Is the boat ride also worth doing?
Any good markets to check out?

There are 2 Air Asia flight from CNX to HKT on Thursday.
1pm-3pm is 3,100 THB ($103)
8:45pm-11:50pm is 2,300 ($77)

If I take the 1pm will I still have enough time in Chiang Mai? 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 01, 2010, 10:55:33 PM
I wonder if I'm doing this backwards by going to Chiang Mai first?

Should we go from BKK to Khao Lak on Tuesday afternoon and then to Chiang Mai on the 7:20pm Thursday flight and then back to BKK on Sunday at 3:30pm?

That way we can go to chabad of Chiang Mai for shabbos and check out the sunday market.
But will there be enough time on friday to see the sights of Chiang Mai? Shabbos starts at 5:35pm.

Of course if we do go to Khao Lak first then we'll have to go down to Phuket to get food and then back up to Khao Lak (where we'll have a private pool villa :D)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 03, 2010, 07:04:51 AM
Sorry haven't gotten around to replying...

I would definitely opt for KL first and CM second... I would avoid phuket if at all possible and bring some food from US (instand pastas/soups, crackers, etc... or from HK) shame to waste time upon arrival.. Kosher pringles as well as peanut butter are available in Khao Lak...

Shabbos in CM is really worth it.. I do have to warn you that you'll feel like you didn't have enough time in either place...

If you go for the elaphant ride in the same place as the show (I'm not sure they have bamboo rafting) then you should be fine... worse come to worse you can come back on Sunday morning... Motzei shabbos go to the night market right across of the hotel....

Another option for Sunday is the river boat ride which is very relaxing...

IF you had more time I would tell you to leave the city a bit, rent a scooter or motor bike and go exploring (Costs $10 a day or so) lots of fun.... you can see tree house hotels, rivers etc... some very nice sites..

Unfortunately the absolute best market I've ever seen - The Sunday Market, is an evening market, so until 3-4 there probably won't be much going on... some people might be there already.. but evening its absolutely stunning.. they sell amazing crafts for dirt cheap...

Best way to get around town is by tuktuk, they are very cheap $2-4 if I'm not mistaken.

in any case def go to KL first and CM for shabbos... you'll really enjoy it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2010, 04:53:31 AM
Chiang Mai rocks!  Have a great shabbos guys!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: eliteflyer on December 24, 2010, 12:53:40 PM
Chiang Mai rocks!  Have a great shabbos guys!
Something about that photo is off. That tiger looks drugged. :-(
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Deal Guy on December 24, 2010, 01:29:48 PM
Chiang Mai rocks!  Have a great shabbos guys!
I knew you would make it to the Tigers!!! What about Mrs. Dan?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 25, 2010, 07:07:56 AM
Something about that photo is off. That tiger looks drugged. :-(
All of the tigers were oddly peaceful.
But here's a couple better shots of our tiger.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on December 25, 2010, 07:08:11 AM
I knew you would make it to the Tigers!!! What about Mrs. Dan?
Yup!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 26, 2010, 06:53:16 AM
Glad to see you made it!! Told you it was worth it!!  No pics standing up with the tigers? Hope you used their photographer, I forgot to mention it's definitely worth it... Also these don't seem to be the biggest ones, are they?

Tigers are not drugged, they chill, it's hot...

Waiting for another update from you.. hope it went well..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 13, 2011, 06:22:16 AM
Thinking of spending a day in BKK during my travels. I'm arriving 5am, departing 7pm.
As much as id like to spend longer, its not an option so this is what I've got to work with.

So, besides Grand Palace, the markets, tailors and temples is there anything else to do/see in Bangkok?
If there's nothing much to do I may just get some clothing tailored? Anyone have recommendations?

I don't need food. As much Id love to try Thai cuisine, I doubt the kosher food is all that different to anywhere else.
All suggestions are appreciated.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2011, 12:11:53 PM
Go to Chaing Mai for $90 RT, hire a driver for half a day for $15 and go to the animal shows and activities :)
You'll miss the great markets there though and the excellent category 2 Le Meridian.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 13, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Go to Chaing Mai for $90 RT, hire a driver for half a day for $15 and go to the animal shows and activities :)
You'll miss the great markets there though and the excellent category 2 Le Meridian.
I was actually thinking about seeing if I could add it on to me ticket. That would leave only 6 hours in Chaing Mai.
If I buy a separate ticket, I run the risk of not getting back to BKK in time and missing my continuing flight.
Although, I could then try out the LM ;)

Do you think its realistically possible? How much time do I need there to see the bare minimum to make it worth going?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2011, 12:39:03 PM
I was actually thinking about seeing if I could add it on to me ticket. That would leave only 6 hours in Chaing Mai.
If I buy a separate ticket, I run the risk of not getting back to BKK in time and missing my continuing flight.
Although, I could then try out the LM ;)

Do you think its realistically possible? How much time do I need there to see the bare minimum to make it worth going?
We had separate tickets in Thailand and it worked out fine.
I think with 6 hours you can definitely see all the animal stuff outside the city (elephants show/rides, tiger kingdom, monkey show, cobra show, etc, etc) but you won't have time to see any markets or stuff in the city-but those are in the evening only anyway.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 13, 2011, 12:44:50 PM
We had separate tickets in Thailand and it worked out fine.
I think with 6 hours you can definitely see all the animal stuff outside the city (elephants show/rides, tiger kingdom, monkey show, cobra show, etc, etc) but you won't have time to see any markets or stuff in the city-but those are in the evening only anyway.
AirAsia the way to go?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2011, 12:49:21 PM
AirAsia the way to go?
Probably.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 13, 2011, 01:05:46 PM
Probably.
Looks like I could change my ticket to arrive in BKK the afternoon before.
But its going to cost $90 to change plus $70 to get to the city to catch the flight.
Would probably end up adding up to too much to justify 12 hours more.

Definitely going to do some and one day get back to do it all.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2011, 01:23:04 PM
Looks like I could change my ticket to arrive in BKK the afternoon before.
But its going to cost $90 to change plus $70 to get to the city to catch the flight.
Would probably end up adding up to too much to justify 12 hours more.

Definitely going to do some and one day get back to do it all.
What day are you currently arriving in BKK?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 13, 2011, 08:58:41 PM
What day are you currently arriving in BKK?
Monday morning.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 14, 2011, 05:51:28 PM
I wouldn't risk it if you have only that one day.. depending on weather sometimes Air Asia could be delayed (also depends on season you are planning on traveling)

I would stick to BKK to be safe.. there are plenty of markets in BKK, decent tailors an chabad house is a nice stop as well..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 14, 2011, 10:30:55 PM
Monday morning.
So you can be in CNX (Chiang Mai) on Sunday?
One of my regrets (besides for not tailoring clothes) was not being in CNX on Sunday night for the famous Sunday night market that everyone was talking about.
If you can change your ticket to arrive Sunday, I would do it.  You'll have plenty of time to also stop for food in the Chabad house, stay in the excellent Le Meridian, and then hit up the animal shows on Monday.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 01:49:09 AM
So you can be in CNX (Chiang Mai) on Sunday?
One of my regrets (besides for not tailoring clothes) was not being in CNX on Sunday night for the famous Sunday night market that everyone was talking about.
If you can change your ticket to arrive Sunday, I would do it.  You'll have plenty of time to also stop for food in the Chabad house, stay in the excellent Le Meridian, and then hit up the animal shows on Monday.
The Motzei Shabbos flight is now available. So I can arrive in BKK, Sunday 5:30am.
If I can add BKK-CNX-BKK to my ticket it'll only cost $90 change fee.

As of now, my continuing flight from BKK is Monday 7:30pm.

If I wanted to go to Chiang Mai and get some clothes tailored, should I go straight to CNX Sunday morning, see the animal shows, see the market at night and fly back to BKK Monday early enough to get to the tailor OR
Go to the tailor Sunday morning (are they open Sunday?), then go to CNX, see the night markets and then go to the animal shows Monday?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2011, 01:52:42 AM
The Motzei Shabbos flight is now available. So I can arrive in BKK, Sunday 5:30am.
If I can add BKK-CNX-BKK to my ticket it'll only cost $90 change fee.

As of now, my continuing flight from BKK is Monday 7:30pm.

If I wanted to go to Chiang Mai and get some clothes tailored, should I go straight to CNX Sunday morning, see the animal shows, see the market at night and fly back to BKK Monday early enough to get to the tailor OR
Go to the tailor Sunday morning (are they open Sunday?), then go to CNX, see the night markets and then go to the animal shows Monday?
Why do you need to go to BKK at all?
You can spend 2 great days/1 night in CNX.
There are plenty of tailors in CNX.  I'm not sure if they're open on Sunday or what their turnaround time is though.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 02:00:05 AM
Why do you need to go to BKK at all?
You can spend 2 great days/1 night in CNX.
There are plenty of tailors in CNX.  I'm not sure if they're open on Sunday or what their turnaround time is though.
I don't have to, only the tailors that I've heard recommended are all in BKK (guessing that's just where most people get their stuff done). Anyone know a good tailor in Chiang Mai?

That would be great. TG has availability 7:45-9:05 on Sunday morning, returning 5:05-6:15pm Monday. Is 1:15 cutting too close to connect in BKK.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2011, 02:09:27 AM
I don't have to, only the tailors that I've heard recommended are all in BKK (guessing that's just where most people get their stuff done). Anyone know a good tailor in Chiang Mai?

That would be great. TG has availability 7:45-9:05 on Sunday morning, returning 5:05-6:15pm Monday. Is 1:15 cutting too close to connect in BKK.
Is it a TG-TG connection?  Should be fine.  I wouldn't do an Air Asia connection like that though.

I know one couple we met at the Chabad house on Shabbos was raving about a CNX tailor that they always use, but we were leaving Sunday afternoon. 
The young shluchim there are GREAT.  Give him a call or drop him a email to see if he might know of any tailors that he or others use.

Walking down the main street in CNX (Chabad, Le Meridian, and the daily night market-not the sunday night market are on the same street)  you'll pass by dozens of insanely cheap tailors and massage places.  Just don't forget that bargaining is the name of the game here.
They may ask for 1,000 Baht (~$30) for the La Coste or Ralph Lauren knockoff polo but they'll go down to 120 (~$4).  Same for an all-day driver to the animal places.

Look at Chikky's earlier post in this thread for more CNX activities like rafting, etc.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 02:28:05 AM
Is it a TG-TG connection?  Should be fine.  I wouldn't do an Air Asia connection like that though.

I know one couple we met at the Chabad house on Shabbos was raving about a CNX tailor that they always use, but we were leaving Sunday afternoon. 
The young shluchim there are GREAT.  Give him a call or drop him a email to see if he might know of any tailors that he or others use.

Walking down the main street in CNX (Chabad, Le Meridian, and the daily night market-not the sunday night market are on the same street)  you'll pass by dozens of insanely cheap tailors and massage places.  Just don't forget that bargaining is the name of the game here.
They may ask for 1,000 Baht (~$30) for the La Coste or Ralph Lauren knockoff polo but they'll go down to 120 (~$4).  Same for an all-day driver to the animal places.

Look at Chikky's earlier post in this thread for more CNX activities like rafting, etc.
Yep, TG-TG.

Do you have details for the driver?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2011, 02:32:20 AM
Yep, TG-TG.

Do you have details for the driver?
Just negotiate with any taxi in CNX.  Figure on negotiating 700-800 Baht for a driver to take you around all day.  Don't go to the animal parks by Tuk-Tuk but be sure to take one at some point during your stay,
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 03:21:22 AM
Looks like there is C&P's available which is awesome.

Officially, check in is 3pm. Any chance I can check in in the morning? Or at least drop my bag off?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Yaalili on May 15, 2011, 09:31:01 AM
Looks like there is C&P's available which is awesome.

Officially, check in is 3pm. Any chance I can check in in the morning? Or at least drop my bag off?

Most hotels, have a storage room for bags, when u check-in early, or check-out late.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 15, 2011, 10:10:55 AM
When are you going? summer is not high season for thailand so good chance you can check in early....

Not sure about CNX tailors but in general you have to watch who you buy from... In BKK I have used and can only recommend Rajawongse Tailer (dress-for-success.com) CNX may have some decent but I doubt it will be as good quality as BKK especially for shirts..

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 10:34:17 AM
When are you going? summer is not high season for thailand so good chance you can check in early....

Not sure about CNX tailors but in general you have to watch who you buy from... In BKK I have used and can only recommend Rajawongse Tailer (dress-for-success.com) CNX may have some decent but I doubt it will be as good quality as BKK especially for shirts..


Next month.

So would you recommend spending some time in BKK to get some clothes tailored or will it take too much time away from Chiang Mai?
How long does it take for them to measure you up? I presume they can make it and then ship it to you, correct?

Currently, I can do the following,
Arr. BKK Sun.5:30
Sun BKK-CNX, 7:45-9:05

Mon CNX-BKK 17:05-18:15
Depart BKK 19:30
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2011, 12:32:07 PM
Email to ask for early check-in: reservations.chiangmai@lemeridien.com

I didn't leave the BKK airport, but I don't think the airport is close to where you would want to be-it's a very sprawling city.

Chiang Mai is much more compact.
There definitely are good tailors in CNX-I just don't know who they are.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 10:14:02 PM
Seems like the tailors are closed Sunday (at least Chikky's one).

To get back to BKK earlier on Monday would mean leaving in the mid-morning.(No midday, early afternoon flight available.)
I don't think its worth missing a day in Chiang Mai for the difference in quality of the shirts (if there is one).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
Seems like the tailors are closed Sunday (at least Chikky's one).

To get back to BKK earlier on Monday would mean leaving in the mid-morning.(No midday, early afternoon flight available.)
I don't think its worth missing a day in Chiang Mai for the difference in quality of the shirts (if there is one).
Nope, enjoy the time in CNX-Fun little city!

I'm not sure if the regular night market goes on as usual on Sunday, but if it does check that out as well.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 15, 2011, 10:27:46 PM
Is everything very time consuming or can you get from one thing to another quite quickly?

Dan, from your trip report (ye, some of us read it and appreciate it ;)), it seems like you did most of the activities on one day? Were you very pressed for time the whole day? You mentiontaking the elephant ride at the show for that reason.

Trying to figure what I can realistically fit in 1.5 days. Want to do as much as possible but don't want to be run off my feet rushing from place to place without enjoying...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2011, 10:33:35 PM
Is everything very time consuming or can you get from one thing to another quite quickly?

Dan, from your trip report (ye, some of us read it and appreciate it ;)), it seems like you did most of the activities on one day? Were you very pressed for time the whole day? You mentiontaking the elephant ride at the show for that reason.

Trying to figure what I can realistically fit in 1.5 days. Want to do as much as possible but don't want to be run off my feet rushing from place to place without enjoying...
All of the animal stuff is in the same area and can be done fairly quickly.
We did it on a short Friday so we didn't do the elephant ride at the other place and didn't go rafting, etc.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 16, 2011, 09:04:55 AM
Bugger.
Had an Aeroplan agent willing to add BKK-CNX-BKK to my award ticket. Didnt pull the trigger cos I was wasnt sure.

Now they wont do it (its not allowed) so Im going to have to pay.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 16, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
Bugger.
Had an Aeroplan agent willing to add BKK-CNX-BKK to my award ticket. Didnt pull the trigger cos I was wasnt sure.

Now they wont do it (its not allowed) so Im going to have to pay.

Try again and again and again. Eventually you'll find someone
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 16, 2011, 09:39:12 AM
So, back to Air Asia.

I can arrive BBK 5:30am Sunday.

Air Asia has a flight at 6:40am. Is that too tight?
Otherwise the next flight is at 10:30am.

On Monday, I leave BKK 7:30pm.
The Air Asia flight before that is 2:35-3:45pm.

Cost: THB3955 ($130)

The TG flights I wanted were,
BKK-CNX, 7:45-9:05am Sunday
CNX-BKK, 5:05-6:15pm Monday

I can buy them for $264/$333 Economy/Business. Is it worth the extra money to spend 5 hours longer in Chiang Mai, smoother connections and nicer flights?

If I have bags, will they check them all the way through in/out of CNX, being that it will be two seperate tickets? (Both arriving and departing flights are on the same airline, TG)

Perhaps there is another low cost airline that will work better?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 16, 2011, 09:42:33 AM
Try again and again and again. Eventually you'll find someone
On my fourth try.
Couple agents have started doing it and then realized that I must transit BKK twice. Then they say its not allowed...

Damaxer, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

It was again and again and again AND again but I got an agent to process it. Just hope the re-ticketing isnt manual and someone else notices :-\
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 18, 2011, 09:16:16 AM
So, back to Air Asia.

I can arrive BBK 5:30am Sunday.

Air Asia has a flight at 6:40am. Is that too tight?
Otherwise the next flight is at 10:30am.


Definitely too early, you have to clear customs...

Be sure to check Bangkokair as well... very good airline slightly higher class than Air Asia...

You really don't need a lot of time everywhere.. the animals are near each other. monkey shows run basically on the hour, elephant show if a little more tricky, plan around it if you want to go.

My priority list would be:
Tigers
Elephants riding/Bamboo rafting
Monkeys

Night market is great...

Leave some free time to just hang out and take it easy

Tailoring is very fast, they measure you and you choose your fabrics. They can ship to the US for you..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 10:50:53 AM
At the Mai se (sp?) Elephant show (highly recommended how and incredibly inexpensive!)  you ride on a carriage on top of the elephant.  I assume at the other place you ride directly on the elephant?

Also at the Tiger Kingdom they have like 4 different sizes of tigers.  Infants were the most expensive, then the kids, and the medium and large tigers were the cheapest.  They also sell combo packages.
We did the mediums.

They also sell a CD of your photographs for 300THB (~$10) but we just brought our camera into the cage where there are 3 people helping you out for the 15 minutes you get in there.  There were more than happy taking hundreds of pictures with my camera in exchange for a tip.  I gave them 100THB and they seemed very happy with it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 18, 2011, 12:56:06 PM
Maese Elephant camp (http://www.maesaelephantcamp.com/ for show times)

I think it's worth paying the photographer fees at the Tiger Kingdom, they are not professional photographers but they got to know their camera settings (Nikon d90 when I was there) and there pictures were fabulous (the ones they took with my similar nikon weren't as good)... I would recommend the biggest tigers, it's unbelievable.. infants are good for families..

At all elephant camps you ride on a saddle/carriage... riding directly is only available in places where they teach you to be a mahout..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 18, 2011, 04:48:03 PM
Thanks for all the help.
 
Got the BKK-CNX-BKK in TG J added to my ticket so if all goes well ill arrive CNX 9:05am Sunday and depart Monday 5:05pm.

Do I have to pick up my bags in BKK, clear customs and recheck them or will TG check them all the way to CNX and clear customs there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 18, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
At all elephant camps you ride on a saddle/carriage... riding directly is only available in places where they teach you to be a mahout..
So what's the advantage of riding somewhere besides Maese?

Thanks for all the help.
 
Got the BKK-CNX-BKK in TG J added to my ticket so if all goes well ill arrive CNX 9:05am Sunday and depart Monday 5:05pm.

Do I have to pick up my bags in BKK, clear customs and recheck them or will TG check them all the way to CNX and clear customs there?
I flew Air Asia which has no interlining, so we had to claim and recheck.  Not sure about TG-TG.
On the outbound we flew TG from CNX and checked through BKK to HKG on CX.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 18, 2011, 05:09:12 PM
Chikky, you mentioned going to the tigers earlier.
Seems like the most realistic time for the elephant show is 1:30pm. Is it pushing it to see the tigers before then?
Or, I should I go afterwards? Or Monday morning?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 18, 2011, 05:14:28 PM
So what's the advantage of riding somewhere besides Maese?
I flew Air Asia which has no interlining, so we had to claim and recheck.  Not sure about TG-TG.
On the outbound we flew TG from CNX and checked through BKK to HKG on CX.
On the outbound, they'll check it all the way.
The question is on the inbound, even with interlining, do you have to clear customs at first point of entry? (Such is the case if you're flying for example, SYD-LAX-JFK. You pick up your bags in LAX, clear customs and then drop them off. You don't need to re-check, the tags have your destination on them, just gotta clear customs. )
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 19, 2011, 05:46:36 AM
So what's the advantage of riding somewhere besides Maese?
The other locations are nicer, more dense jungle, mountains, rivers etc..

You definitely have plenty of time to go to the tiger place before the elephant show.. Hopefully won't have too long of a wait time.

I advise going there first thing in the morning, as the day progresses they get sleepy and the trainers have to poke them to move around... Also it's less hot and pictures are better as you won't necessarily be in straight sunlight.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 06:29:53 AM
The other locations are nicer, more dense jungle, mountains, rivers etc..

You definitely have plenty of time to go to the tiger place before the elephant show.. Hopefully won't have too long of a wait time.

I advise going there first thing in the morning, as the day progresses they get sleepy and the trainers have to poke them to move around... Also it's less hot and pictures are better as you won't necessarily be in straight sunlight.
Chikky, thanks for the advice.Where are the other places to do the elephant riding?

Any place to go bungee jumping? Preferably safe ;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 19, 2011, 10:46:11 AM
Bungee is a few minutes away from the animals... did it and its safe http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 11:27:02 AM
Bungee is a few minutes away from the animals... did it and its safe http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/
Cool. Did you try any of the other activities? Off road buggies look like fun...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 12:04:19 PM
Awesome to have first hand experience.
Just reading again through the wealth of info and came across my post,
Wow, you really know that part of the world down to the last detail...
Really enjoy reading.
One day ill get there...
:D
So now I'm looking at doing:
Tiger Kingdom
Elephant Show
Elephant Riding, Bamboo Rafts (Chikky, you have the info on the other place?)
Monkey Show
Snake show (worth seeing?)
Xcentre-Bungee Jumping, off road bikes/buggies
Sunday night market
(Can I do all the above on Sunday? Arriving 9:05am, drop my stuff off and I'm on my way..)
Long tail boat rides (worth doing?)
Perhaps just checking out the city, on a tuk tuk, rent a scooter (anywhere specific?)
Get some clothes tailored.

Long neck tribe doesn't look so interesting.

Anything else that you would add/subtract/do instead?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 12:17:33 PM
I don't think you'll be able to do all that.

Let's say you're with your bags in a taxi that you've negotiated a rate for the entire day (hopefully for less than 900 THB) at 9:30am. 
(Don't forget to grab some free sim cards at baggage claim!)
Allow 90 minutes to go to the hotel, checkin, put your stuff in the room, and then taxi out to the animal parks.
Now it's 11am.
Do you have food with you are do you want to eat breakfast/lunch at Chabad (prices are insanely cheap like $1 pancakes, $4 burgers, great lachmaniot and fruit shakes and etc and the food is pretty good)

Tiger Kingdom-Allow 1 hour
Elephant Show-Allow 1 hour
Elephant Riding-Allow 1 hour at 1:30pm only.
Bamboo Rafts-Didn't do this, but maybe 2 hours?
Monkey Show-Allow 30 minutes
Snake show (worth seeing?)-Didn't do this but maybe 30 minutes?
Xcentre-Bungee Jumping, off road bikes/buggies-Didn't do this but that's got to take some good time I'd imagine.

You'll want to get dinner at chabad at some point.

Sunday night market (Ratchadamonoen Road in the old city) starts at 5pm, but peak hours are like 7-11pm I think.  You can take a tuktuk there or a red shared ride open van.

You also don't want to miss the night market on Changklan road between Chabad and the hotel.

Long tail boat rides (worth doing?)-Didn't do that or the long-neck.

Get some clothes tailored-try to find out where a good place is, maybe the shliach knows?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 12:37:58 PM
Truth is I have most of Monday as well. Just thought if a bunch of things are together, see how many I can do.

I'll bring some some food on the plane with me, eat a big breakfast BKK-CNX and with a couple of snacks ill be good until dinner.
I was thinking similarly, arrive at animal parks at 11.
First, Tiger Kingdom.
Monkey Show and snake show?
Elephant Show 1:30
Elephant Ride and bamboo rafts.(gotta find out from Chikky how far that is)

Seems like that would already take me until 5:00-5:30

Head back to town, chabad house, mincha/maariv, maybe learn something eat dinner.

The regular night market starts the same time as Sunday market? Thinking to go to regular one then to Sunday market (min hakal el hakovod).
Then crash in my Junior suite at the LM (Thanks Dan!!!)

Monday:
Early rise (jet lag)
Shachris
Breakfast
Xcentre (maybe forget breakfast...)

Depending on how long that takes, back to town, tailor and if I have more time explore the city before picking up some food and heading to the airport.

Where am I right/wrong?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 12:45:29 PM
Sounds awesome!

Enjoy the suite and the club-they are awesome.  And maybe leave some time for the nice infinity pool.

There are also lots of ancient temples and palaces, etc.  We saw one for 5 minutes to be yotzei zain.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 01:49:55 PM
Can I negotiate at rate for a taxi for the day at the airport?

A day means they'll drive me everywhere, wait there and continue on at my pace?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 01:59:23 PM
Can I negotiate at rate for a taxi for the day at the airport?

A day means they'll drive me everywhere, wait there and continue on at my pace?
Yes.
Correct.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 19, 2011, 02:06:45 PM
Any tips on best place to exchange money?
I doubt after you bargin down at the market to a 10th of the price you can just whip out your cc...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 19, 2011, 02:09:31 PM
Any tips on best place to exchange money?
I doubt after you bargin down at the market to a 10th of the price you can just whip out your cc...
I just used ATMs.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aaa on May 24, 2011, 07:02:07 PM
Has anyone on this forum had clothing (suits, shirts) made for them? If yes, what did you get, how much did you pay and were you satisfied with what you got? Thanks
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 16, 2011, 03:23:07 PM
Anyone interested in a trip report?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 16, 2011, 03:33:43 PM
Anyone interested in a trip report?
Of course :D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Bp on June 16, 2011, 03:44:57 PM
Of course :D
+1
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dovy365 on June 17, 2011, 03:28:24 PM
Of course :D
+1
+1
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on June 17, 2011, 05:32:51 PM
Of course :D
+1
+1
+1


;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 17, 2011, 06:05:03 PM
Ok. IYH coming soon, "The Rose of the North, Chiang Mia. A Trip Report".
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 27, 2011, 05:41:04 PM
im thinking about visiting thailand in august. anybody have experience during the rainy season? should i skip phuket and instead go to Koh Samui?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 27, 2011, 09:27:53 PM
im thinking about visiting thailand in august. anybody have experience during the rainy season? should i skip phuket and instead go to Koh Samui?

Yup, if you want better weather, and an ocean you can swim in definitely try samui...  there's a chabad restaurant there...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on June 28, 2011, 12:34:31 AM
was in phuket last summer,lucked out with the weather,although all the locals were surprised that it didn't rain! sounds like your best bet is koh samuai although everything cheaper in phuket,although its a risk!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on June 28, 2011, 03:35:01 AM
im thinking about visiting thailand in august. anybody have experience during the rainy season? should i skip phuket and instead go to Koh Samui?

I found Koh Samui rather dirty and unattractive
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2011, 06:56:20 AM
Part 1
Started writing and got a little carried away so ill post the first part.
Dan wrote extensively about his trip and the ins and outs of what to do etc. Here is my experience:

Planning:

From when I was young, I was always amazed at the pictures people came back with after visiting Thailand. It was a place that I would just have to get to!
My time had come. Until just a few days ago, Aeroplan's North America-South Pacific Business award for 100k miles was one of the best award redemption available.
What makes it even more lucrative, is the ability to route via Asia and since a stopover is permitted, to stop there too.

So came about my trip to Thailand. I would fly from Australia to Thailand and then onto the US.
Originally, it was only going to be visiting Bangkok. But after reading here from Chikky and Dan about Chiang Mai, that was going to be the place.
Now, although Aeroplan is gracious enough to allow a stopover on an award, officially it has to be in the same direction of travel, no backtracking. This would be an issue with CNX (Chiang Mai), being that I'd have to transit BKK to get there and then again to continue on to the US.

There are a number of Asian low cost airlines that fly the BKK-CNX route which are great for those needing short flights. But that would mean paying for the tickets, no interlining bags, lower service, basically getting what you pay for (who does that ;) ) So figured (with Damaxer’s encoragement), its worth a shot at trying to get Aeroplan to add the segments on Thai, the airline I was flying from Australia. If it would work, I would get the seats in business class, as well. A no brainer!
Called Aeroplan and was told that its not allowed. Following the famous rule of "hang up and call back" after 4 times, I got a lovely gentleman to ticket it for me.
I was all set!

The Trip:

Arriving at the airport 1 and a half hours before the flight the lines were longish. But with the dedicated business class line I was second on line.
With my bags checked all the way to CNX and both my boarding passes, I was on my way.
Airport lounges are the best way (and if you're reading this, hopefully the only way) to kill the extra time in the airport.
Thai Business passengers are given access to the Air New Zealand lounge.
It is quite large and very well appointed. There is a big buffet of food (skipped that) and tons of self serve drinks. Water, soda taps, beer, wine, spirits, cocktail mixes, they've got plenty for all ages.
There are work stations with PC's and internet, even connected to a color printer. Only realized that after I printed some reading material from the net for the plane and everything was in full color, Oops...
Then there are various sitting areas with couches and TV's.
Even when its fairly full, it doesn't feel cramped. A relaxing way to begin a trip.

Boarding was announced and most of the people began to pack up and leave.
Using the designated business class lane to board, it wasn't a few minutes until I was aboard.
We were flying on a 777 with only two classes of service. Business class seats are in a 2-3-2 format with 5 rows in the forward section. My seat was on the aisle of the 3 seats. But being that it was a pretty empty flight nobody was sitting in my row so I moved over to the middle, now having a seat on either side to dump all my "stuff" on.

From the moment you get on the plane, the flight attendants are offering their help with everything. Water, Orange Juice and Champagne are offered and hot towels are given out.
The amenity kit together with the noise cancelling headphones are already on the seat.
Having power outlets onboard is a major plus, especially on long flights, allowing your electronics to be fully powered when you arrive. I had three seats so could charge everything at the same time. Just dont leave your charger on the plane...
Soon enough we were up and away on our 9 hour flight to Thailand.

The purser came over to me and let me know that my kosher meal had not been loaded, the whole while apologizing profusely, offering whatever she could.
It was a late night flight and I had some of my own food so really wasn't a big deal. Besides, not such a fan of airplane food...

The entertainment system selections are extensive but I opted to get as much sleep as possible before the big day ahead.
The seats aren't quite lie-flat but plenty  comfortable enough to sleep.
I awoke nicely rested with a couple of hours to BKK.

Immigration forms were given out shortly followed with hot towels. Seems they give hot towels with everything...
As they were serving breakfast, they kept coming over apologizing and again offering if they could get me anything.
As the sun was rising we gently landed in BKK. I had a couple hours until my connecting flight but with bags checked through and boarding passes in had, there was plenty of time.

Being that BKK-CNX was departing from the domestic side of the terminal, I had to work across the airport. Probably just over a km (.6 of a mile), it was about a 15 min walk at a leisurely pace.
After sitting for so long, its nice to get the blood moving again.

Passport control was totally deserted except the 4 guys behind the counters. After a quick security check, it was on to the lounge.
Royal Silk domestic lounge is nice but nothing special. There is WiFi and computers with internet for those that don't have their own devices...
And the printer is color as well.

One nice thing is the "garden area". It's not actually outdoors. You walk through the lounge and there is a large area of the terminal partitioned off with trees and outdoor furniture. It does look out over a nice garden.
It was totally empty and I was thinking perhaps people didn't know about it, being that the lounge was quite full.
Just the right place to hang out before my continuing flight.
As marked with signs everywhere, they don't announce flights. I'm not sure which domestic lounges do that there would be a requirement for so many signs.

With 30 min to the flight I headed to the gate lounge. There are no jet bridges, all passengers take the bus to the plane.
As I got my boarding pass scanned the agent kindly informed me that we would be flying a 747 and that I had been upgraded to first class, seat 1A.
I found it ironic that my 9 hour flight from Australia and the 16 hour flight to the US were both on a two class plane, while the 55 min. flight to CNX was on a 3 class 747.
It's pretty cool driving in the bus between all the massive planes. When youre right next to them you get a feeling of their sheer size.

After a 5 min drive we pulled up next to our plane. Instead of the usual stairs, there is a stairwell up to a jet bridge.
It wasn't the new TG first class but it was very nice, big and comfy. It's kind of cool setting in the nose of the plane, great view!
The flight ended as quickly as it had begun and we touched down in CNX.

To be continued...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: andrew on June 28, 2011, 07:35:19 AM
so your going australia - bkk- chiang mai - bkk - usa?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2011, 07:35:52 AM
so your going australia - bkk- chiang mai - bkk - usa?
Yep.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: andrew on June 28, 2011, 07:45:11 AM
when you tried to call up 4 times was this after you already booked your ticket and wanted to add on those legs or before you booked, if it was before you booked did you have to go thru your itinarary from the start each time or was the main parts somehow on hold.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2011, 07:49:17 AM
when you tried to call up 4 times was this after you already booked your ticket and wanted to add on those legs or before you booked, if it was before you booked did you have to go thru your itinarary from the start each time or was the main parts somehow on hold.
It was after.
Aeroplan doesnt hold reservations so if you need to hang up and retry youll have to redo the entire itinerary.
But feed the flights and it really doesnt take too long.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 28, 2011, 08:28:51 AM
aussie, was this your first time in business?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2011, 08:33:04 AM
aussie, was this your first time in business?
No.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: andrew on June 28, 2011, 09:21:17 AM
It was after.
Aeroplan doesnt hold reservations so if you need to hang up and retry youll have to redo the entire itinerary.
But feed the flights and it really doesnt take too long.
were you able to avoid the 90 dollar change fee or did u have to pay it
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 28, 2011, 09:25:24 AM
were you able to avoid the 90 dollar change fee or did u have to pay it
Paid it.
Turned out cheaper then Air Asia, better times and business class (which then became first) so well worth it IMHO.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 28, 2011, 09:47:35 AM
I found Koh Samui rather dirty and unattractive

Depending on how long you have and how flexible you are, I would recommend staying on Ko Tao.. a very small island 2 hours away from Ko Samui (Lompraya operates two trips daily..) great clear water, really relaxed island, depends what you are looking for.

Another great choice is taking a day trip from Ko Samui to the Ang Thong Marine National Park.. this time of year you can't find such beautiful islands and clear water as you will there.. (just google pics for both these places, you'll see what I'm talking about.)  Ko Samui itself has many different beaches with various options, I would recommend doing lots of research before booking..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2011, 11:27:38 AM
Great report so far Aussie!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 28, 2011, 11:28:16 AM
I found Koh Samui rather dirty and unattractive
And BKK/CNX/HKT aren't??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on June 28, 2011, 11:28:47 AM
Great report so far Aussie!

+1

These trip reports really remind me I need to do more travelling.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 11, 2011, 11:16:04 AM
a few questions
1. chikky, you mentioned in the beginning of this thread that you dont recommend a long tail boat ride with kds. why is that?
2. wheres a good place to take in some muay thai?
3. are there any cell providers offering prepaid blackberry service? (for emails most importantly)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 17, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
Was trying to finish off my report here before starting my most recent Asia TR.
Unfortunately, just before finishing I lost it all due to browser crashing.
IYH when I get the time and heart ill do it again....
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
Was trying to finish off my report here before starting my most recent Asia TR.
Unfortunately, just before finishing I lost it all due to browser crashing.
IYH when I get the time and heart ill do it again....
Ugh...use word next time!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 18, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
Ugh...use word next time!
Yep, sometimes you learn the hard way...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on August 18, 2011, 09:05:10 AM
a few questions
1. chikky, you mentioned in the beginning of this thread that you dont recommend a long tail boat ride with kds. why is that?

I had a scary experience a few years back, I took a long tail boat from Ko Tao to Ko Nang Yuan (it's in the ko samui side where weather is normally better in the summer months) it's a very short trip maybe one KM... weather was nice and no one mentioned any problem... as we left the beach small waves formed and the long tail boat started to get very bumpy, we almost fell out... they don't normally give lifejackets, and nothing would fit our child... (he was 1 at the time)... when we finally got to Nang Yuan, I decided to spend the entire day they until they had a proper boat in the evening.

The Phuket side is much worse this time of year, the Andaman sea can get really rough...

Not sure about the other two. I used an iPhone with push e-mail service without problem on a prepaid sim.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Expert Flyer on August 27, 2011, 08:04:34 PM
I want to buy a prepaid SIM in Suvarnabhumi Airport in BKK or in a local 7 Eleven.

Which operator is recommended? TOT3G, DTAC, TrueMove, AIS?
Is the 3G connection of TOT3G good and reliable?

Need good coverage in the following planned locations: CEI, CNX, BKK, Ayuthayya.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2011, 09:53:36 PM
The free SIM I got in the airports was great.  Some more info in my trip reports on Thailand.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 27, 2011, 10:23:47 PM
The free SIM I got in the airports was great.  Some more info in my trip reports on Thailand.
ive just been to 3 thailand airports, and they werent giving out free sims in any of them. it must have been a seasonal promo. similar to when i got free sims at fco, but nobodys gotten since
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2011, 10:24:52 PM
ive just been to 3 thailand airports, and they werent giving out free sims in any of them. it must have been a seasonal promo. similar to when i got free sims at fco, but nobodys gotten since
Gotcha, oh well.  Had looked fairly permanent to me.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 28, 2011, 06:56:34 AM
I got em as well when I was there...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on August 28, 2011, 01:49:59 PM
where?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Expert Flyer on August 28, 2011, 02:08:12 PM
I got em as well when I was there...

When?
I don't care whether they hand it out for free. It's not going to be expensive anyway.
Which carrier is recommended?  DTAC or AIS? 

Does DTAC feature a 3G network in and around BKK?


Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on August 28, 2011, 02:24:36 PM
where?
CNX.
They had a stall set up near the baggage carousel before customs.
Besides, they had about 3 people walking around giving them out.
If they were there, you wouldve seen em...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on August 28, 2011, 07:12:17 PM
CNX.
They had a stall set up near the baggage carousel before customs.
Besides, they had about 3 people walking around giving them out.
If they were there, you wouldve seen em...
Yup, same setup at CNX and HKT when I was there.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yys on January 01, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
phuket or koh samuai which one would you suggest?

we are already doing bangkok and chiang mai
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 02, 2012, 02:21:51 AM
which season?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yys on January 02, 2012, 05:05:42 AM
this week
can anyone recoment the must do activities in any of these places
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 03, 2012, 04:17:33 PM
just replied to your private message
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 03, 2012, 04:19:26 PM
For everyone else's benefit, for this season I would recommend phuket, on the Andaman sea.. summer there is lousy due to poor weather but now is nice.. great islands near by, ko phi phi, similian island.. just a short boat ride away... google them
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Expert Flyer on January 04, 2012, 09:52:54 PM
For everyone else's benefit, for this season I would recommend phuket, on the Andaman sea.. summer there is lousy due to poor weather but now is nice.. great islands near by, ko phi phi, similian island.. just a short boat ride away... google them

Whats special in these abovementioned areas? I did already BKK, CNX and CEI + crossing into Laos and Myanmar
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 18, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
has anyone here had a cellphone while in Thailand? is it worth it, where can i get good rates? (more long term, not a 2 week thing) preferably BB service included?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 18, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
absolutely worth it and quite cheap. shop around at the various kiosks in the airport to figure out who has the best deal for your needs (intl calling, domestic calling, bb service etc)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 18, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
absolutely worth it and quite cheap. shop around at the various kiosks in the airport to figure out who has the best deal for your needs (intl calling, domestic calling, bb service etc)
so to confirm ur saying if i need a cell phone for a few months time then airport is my best bet?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 18, 2012, 08:54:37 PM
Staying a few month?!

They used to give out free sim cards in bkk, but not sure if still doing it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2012, 08:56:08 PM
so to confirm ur saying if i need a cell phone for a few months time then airport is my best bet?
I got my SIM free at the airport, and the rates were dirt dirt cheap.

Anyone else scared of shuls/kosher places in Thailand though now that we know it's on the radar of Hezbollah?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 18, 2012, 08:58:12 PM
Staying a few month?!

They used to give out free sim cards in bkk, but not sure if still doing it.
can very well be.

and free sim doesnt help me much i would need a good plan. but thanx for that info anyways

I got my SIM free at the airport, and the rates were dirt dirt cheap.

Anyone else scared of shuls/kosher places in Thailand though now that we know it's on the radar of Hezbollah?
Chabad in Bangkok has security 24/7 i hear now, and im not sure if its the same but if u think that way then maybe you should be scared going to israel or on buses (a few years ago when a lot of bombings)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2012, 09:04:02 PM
There was also "24/7 security" in Chiang Mai when I was there last year...hopefully the security now is better than it was then, but if these terror cells prove anything, it's that they come prepared.  They didn't take out the head of Mumbai's anti-terror squad before getting started for nothing.

And the Rebbe promised that Israel is the safest place in the world.  Bangkok though, perhaps not so much anymore.

I will say the shabbos I spent in Chiang Mai was beautiful with hundreds of non-religious Israelis participating in a shabbos that they had never tasted before...no wonder it's such a target.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 18, 2012, 09:18:55 PM
There was also "24/7 security" in Chiang Mai when I was there last year...hopefully the security now is better than it was then, but if these terror cells prove anything, it's that they come prepared.  They didn't take out the head of Mumbai's anti-terror squad before getting started for nothing.

And the Rebbe promised that Israel is the safest place in the world.  Bangkok though, perhaps not so much anymore.

I will say the shabbos I spent in Chiang Mai was beautiful with hundreds of non-religious Israelis participating in a shabbos that they had never tasted before...no wonder it's such a target.
i heard the target was bangkok. and it also says "Shluchim wont get hurt" (dont know the lashon - calling for AsherO)

so would u worry to go there ?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
"Shluchim wont get hurt"
So then what happened in Mumbai...
Personally I wouldn't go to Thailand right now, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 18, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Quote
So then what happened in Mumbai...
And the Rebbe promised that Israel is the safest place in the world.  Bangkok though, perhaps not so much anymore.
thats the big Q!....so what happened in israel with ppl getting killed from bombs etc?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2012, 09:29:39 PM

thats the big Q!....so what happened in israel with ppl getting killed from bombs etc?
Israel you can explain that even at its worst was still safer than average crime rates in Brooklyn...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on January 18, 2012, 09:41:12 PM
Israel you can explain that even at its worst was still safer than average crime rates in Brooklyn...

I don't think the Rebbe was referring to crime...

I think the context was the Gulf war and people's fear of Scud missiles (and particularly ones with WMD warheads). The Rebbe was saying that there's no need to run away from Israel due to the situation in the Gulf, Israel is the safest place. No one was killed in the Scud attacks (39 or 40 fell in Israel), one person died of a heart attack ר"ל.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 18, 2012, 09:43:49 PM
i heard the target was bangkok. and it also says "Shluchim wont get hurt" (dont know the lashon - calling for AsherO)
wow pretty quick  ;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 18, 2012, 09:44:04 PM
I don't think the Rebbe was referring to crime...

I think the context was the Gulf war and people's fear of Scud missiles (and particularly ones with WMD warheads). The Rebbe was saying that there's no need to run away from Israel due to the situation in the Gulf, Israel is the safest place. No one was killed in the Scud attacks (39 or 40 fell in Israel), one person died of a heart attack ר"ל.
Crime, including homicides.
With several hundred murders occurring every year in Brooklyn, Israel has always been safer...

Though point taken, we're taking things out of context.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on January 18, 2012, 09:51:46 PM
Crime, including homicides.
With several hundred murders occurring every year in Brooklyn, Israel has always been safer...

I wasn't disagreeing your point regarding Brooklyn vs. Israel, I was clarifying context. I think we're both saying the same thing.

For the record, rates for some crimes are higher in Israel, e.g. car theft.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: jackfirst on January 26, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
After reading the entire thread I get the following; If visiting Thailand in July for 3 days it should be Chiang Mai, Correct??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 26, 2012, 06:19:18 PM
July is probably going to be pretty wet.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: jackfirst on January 26, 2012, 06:29:41 PM
Wetness aside, Chiang Mai will still be the ideal place for a short 3 day visit in Thailand, or is it Bangkok, Puhket, or Samoi the ideal place for a short visit??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on January 26, 2012, 06:39:12 PM
Wetness aside, Chiang Mai will still be the ideal place for a short 3 day visit in Thailand, or is it Bangkok, Puhket, or Samoi the ideal place for a short visit??
Depends if you're more interested in sitting by the beach or doing other activities.
Chiang Mia is probably better for the latter...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 27, 2012, 03:35:51 AM
i finally got around to reading the whole thread, and i dont see much about phuket or / and koh samui.
out of phuket i got the Andaman Sea and from KS i see the national park islands etc..
is there any other activities there that ppl here have done?
i heard in phuket theres bungee jumping..-

i will hopefully iy"h be in phuket for pesach and want to do some stuff on Chol hamoed. - im thinking maybe to do a day or two in phuket and hop on a flight (or even a bus) to koh samui for end of chol hamoed (and maybe even last days of pesach)

so my question here is what activites can be done in Phuket and Koh Samui - besides the above mentioned activites.?

@chikkymonkey - the tailor you reccomend in bangkok, can u bargain him down below $30 a shirt? and have you heard of the tailor Aviv or Amit?

thanx.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 09:20:34 PM
im in a big dilemma here:

ive asked around to many many tourists and i get diff answers from everyone. i would like to hear some opinions from here

i have only thursday, Friday, Shabbos to go tour/vacation - that means i land there wed. night and i leave back (to bangkok) on motzei shabbos - what would you recommend me to do.

1. fly to Phuket and do a one day islands trip around phuket. phi phi islands, maya bay etc,.. or do a 2 day (coming back friday afternoon to phuket) then stay shabbos in phuket

2. fly to Koh Samui - and do an island tour on thurs. and friday some small activity on koh samui island and stay there for shabbos.

PRICE:
Phuket - $68 RT (i have a $100 coupon (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13574.msg225266#msg225266) from Thai)
Koh Samui - $240 RT  - not with THAI air and hopefully im able to (if possible) sell the MPD coupon for $100 .

thanx!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 31, 2012, 09:43:09 PM
I would skip both and go to Chaing Mai. Nice Shabbos there too
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 09:49:55 PM
I would skip both and go to Chaing Mai. Nice Shabbos there too
shabbos i think would be nice in all places, but regarding the touring i dont know if i wanna give up on seeing the beautiful water beaches, snorkling ....
besides i have done elephant riding in kanchanaburi and i have pictures with tigers. - the only major thing there i didnt do which i would like to is the Flight of the Gibbon (http://www.treetopasia.com/)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2012, 09:53:01 PM
I would skip both and go to Chaing Mai. Nice Shabbos there too
I didn't do USM, but was completely underwhelmed with HKT.
Go to KOA, OGG, or LIH if you want to see beautiful beaches and snorkeling, etc.
+1 to CNX all the way.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 10:01:19 PM
I didn't do USM, but was completely underwhelmed with HKT.
Go to KOA, OGG, or LIH if you want to see beautiful beaches and snorkeling, etc.
+1 to CNX all the way.
i didnt either hear anything nice or good about HKT but i would go for the surrounding islands, - and USM they say is nice but im not sure i want to put $200+ out just for the day and a half +shabbos that id spend there

and no one i spoke to hear was underwhelmed with the islands. (maybe thats just the israeli mind ;) )

and lets say id go with CNX, then obviously id do flight of the gibbon and then maybe some safari stuff and what else would u say in the 2 days (thurs , fri)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 31, 2012, 10:03:15 PM
Other than the resort we were in, USM was quite underwhelming as well. Very dirty with lots of stray dogs roaming around. HKT was not so impressive either
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2012, 10:13:26 PM
i didnt either hear anything nice or good about HKT but i would go for the surrounding islands, - and USM they say is nice but im not sure i want to put $200+ out just for the day and a half +shabbos that id spend there

and no one i spoke to hear was underwhelmed with the islands. (maybe thats just the israeli mind ;) )

and lets say id go with CNX, then obviously id do flight of the gibbon and then maybe some safari stuff and what else would u say in the 2 days (thurs , fri)
Israelis also make Eilat out to be way more than it is.

Read through what chikky posted about CNX earlier in this thread for suggestions.  Can you stay in CNX for the Sunday market or you need to be back?  The Saturday market isn't bad either.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 31, 2012, 10:18:36 PM
i certainly would not choose cnx because of flight of the gibbon. it was fun but not unbelievable
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 10:18:53 PM
Go to KOA, OGG, or LIH if you want to see beautiful beaches and snorkeling, etc.
easy to say, especially if/since uve been there multiple times. but when will i make it to Hawaii? im sure i will but it may take a nice few years till that happens and if im already in thailand why blow the chance of enjoying the water.

have you done the tour around phi phi, krabi, etc.. or just stayed in HKT?

Israelis also make Eilat out to be way more than it is.

Read through what chikky posted about CNX earlier in this thread for suggestions.  Can you stay in CNX for the Sunday market or you need to be back?  The Saturday market isn't bad either.
well eilat is nice and i hear snorkeling is much better in eilat over Thailand

i have an 8:35 am flight out of BKK on sunday to JFK, so i cant stay sunday and the last flight out of CNX on Motzei shabbos is 10:40 pm
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on May 31, 2012, 10:21:05 PM
easy to say, especially if/since uve been there multiple times. but when will i make it to Hawaii? im sure i will but it may take a nice few years till that happens and if im already in thailand why blow the chance of enjoying the water.

have you done the tour around phi phi, krabi, etc.. or just stayed in HKT?
well eilat is nice and i hear snorkeling is much better in eilat over Thailand

i have an 8:35 am flight out of BKK on sunday to JFK, so i cant stay sunday and the last flight out of CNX on Motzei shabbos is 10:40 pm
The airport in CNX is just minutes from the city, so you can catch the Saturday night market.
And Eilat is only nice if you have never been to the carribean or hawaii.  But at least it's not as bad as HKT.
We were just in HKT and Khao Lak
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/12271
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/12440
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 10:21:23 PM
i certainly would not choose cnx because of flight of the gibbon. it was fun but not unbelievable
thats why i say that i would like to do it but im not gonna base the decision on that. - and i may be able to do the flight of gibbon sometime next week thats near pattaya - 2 hours from bangkok - its a bit smaller but also fun.

whats ur opinion on my dilemma? HKT and islands, USM and islands, or as ppl here saying CNX
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 31, 2012, 10:26:28 PM
hard to say, since you did the tigers and elephants already
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
The airport in CNX is just minutes from the city, so you can catch the Saturday night market.
And Eilat is only nice if you have never been to the carribean or hawaii.  But at least it's not as bad as HKT.
We were just in HKT and Khao Lak
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/12271
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/12440
ok i read ur trip notes, very nice and detailed, and i dont see a reason to go to HKT, besides for the islands surrounding. (obviously its not as nice as hawaii/Caribbean)
as far as attractions in CNX, ive done tiger kingdom and elephants there is Atv in HKT and bungee and im not a big fan of markets in general even though some are nice, but dont forget, its not like im here for 2 days and i shouldnt miss a thailand market.
ive been in Bangkok for the past few months so i kinda trying to get away (vacation) from the thai style market / garbage....looking for somewhere to relax, nice place. besides, im not really looking to buy much stuff anyways, i probably have overweight as it is.

another reason i'd go to HKT for shabbos is because the shliach wont be there and i would be running shabbos there with 2 other guys so that sounds like fun  ;D
so my back to my original question, (a little clearer) if its between HKT and USM and im leaning more towards HKT - price wise and ill be shabbos with 2 guys i know - is it worth it to invest a little more money into going to USM for the attractions and where ill be prob spending shabbos with the shliach only?
 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 31, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
HKT is monsoon season, water visibility isn't great, and weather is unpredictable. I would go with USM and go on a day trip to Ang Thong Marine Park, a set of beautiful islands with gorgeous beaches.. you can kayak around some of them, snorkel etc...

Or take the Lompraya ferry and check out a neighboring island from Samui, such as Phangan, much quieter (unless it's during full moon parties) and some great nature.

If you would stay exclusively on SAMUI may not be worth it...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 11:43:10 PM
HKT is monsoon season, water visibility isn't great, and weather is unpredictable. I would go with USM and go on a day trip to Ang Thong Marine Park, a set of beautiful islands with gorgeous beaches.. you can kayak around some of them, snorkel etc...

Or take the Lompraya ferry and check out a neighboring island from Samui, such as Phangan, much quieter (unless it's during full moon parties) and some great nature.

If you would stay exclusively on SAMUI may not be worth it...
so if i plan to do one day trip around the marine park  etc... and 42 island... then friday and shabbos on samui its worth the extra $170?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on May 31, 2012, 11:47:44 PM
I would pay the extra and go there... the chabad house on samui is very nice... relaxed..

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 31, 2012, 11:56:16 PM
I would pay the extra and go there... the chabad house on samui is very nice... relaxed..
ok thanx. yes i did hear that about the chabad house.
and in your opinion / experience, where do u suggest the best place to get the tour package from? there are many places that sell , agents and online, some or more expensive and some are not reliable.
or do u have a specific day tour package ud advise? cuz i see there are many diff ones.
 
btw does anyone know if its possible to use an MPD coupon for a diff passenger if it has my name on coupon?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 01, 2012, 12:14:47 AM
I don't remember the tour operator I used, but I was with baby, so wouldn't suggest that route. There were some great speed boat tours that included some adventure as well.. Look it up on tripadvisor attractions for Samui and go through the reviews to find the tours most recommended.

If you arrive wednesday night late then best book in advance, because most of them leave early morning..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 01, 2012, 12:39:14 AM
I don't remember the tour operator I used, but I was with baby, so wouldn't suggest that route. There were some great speed boat tours that included some adventure as well.. Look it up on tripadvisor attractions for Samui and go through the reviews to find the tours most recommended.

If you arrive wednesday night late then best book in advance, because most of them leave early morning..
ok ill look into it. thanx
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on June 12, 2012, 11:50:59 AM
thats why i say that i would like to do it but im not gonna base the decision on that. - and i may be able to do the flight of gibbon sometime next week thats near pattaya - 2 hours from bangkok - its a bit smaller but also fun.

whats ur opinion on my dilemma? HKT and islands, USM and islands, or as ppl here saying CNX

I loved USM, It's quieter than other touristy spots. Boh phut is nicer than chaweng IMHO. (I can give you suggestions of activities and hotels if you decide on it)

Phi Phi islands are cool , but no airport and over congested in the main parts-  you would have to get there via 3 hour ferry from phucket (you would lose at least 12 hours total)

Phuket should not even be on the menu IMHO.

Let me know if you need details on any specific place.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 12, 2012, 04:39:43 PM
I loved USM, It's quieter than other touristy spots. Boh phut is nicer than chaweng IMHO. (I can give you suggestions of activities and hotels if you decide on it)

Phi Phi islands are cool , but no airport and over congested in the main parts-  you would have to get there via 3 hour ferry from phucket (you would lose at least 12 hours total)

Phuket should not even be on the menu IMHO.

Let me know if you need details on any specific place.
its fine, thanx im already back in the states.

i ended up going to HKT - cheaper and flight availability (return on motzei shabbos) and it rained all the days besides shabbos - like heavy rain - flooded streets, so i didnt go to islands, just rented a moped for 150 baht a day and went cable skiing.
Title: Hotel - Bangkok ?
Post by: sun365 on June 19, 2012, 10:38:01 PM
Looking for recommendation for hotel in Bangkok. Would like in the Sukumvit area, 15 min walk from Chabad would be nice. $40 - $70 range. This would be for about five days. 
Title: Re: Hotel - Bangkok ?
Post by: Cbs on June 19, 2012, 11:22:31 PM
Looking for recommendation for hotel in Bangkok. Would like in the Sukumvit area, 15 min walk from Chabad would be nice. $40 - $70 range. This would be for about five days.
There is A Chabad Shul on Sukhumvit 22 but there is no restaurant there. the Chabad house is located on Khao san rd. which is about 11 km from sukhumvit 22. Only on shabbos there are meals there
the nice hotels are in sukhumvit area and its more business district there. or you can get nice place a little closer to the Chabad house - in the are of the Shangri-La hotel (which has a shul in it as well)
in the Chabad house area you are gonna find lots of guest houses and decent hotels which are nothing amazing but range up to 2000 baht ( $63 / night) and ull find more backpackers in that area.

If you must be in the sukhumvit area its not a big deal to take a taxi there and it cost you for 11 km - not more than 100 baht on the meter ($3.17)

when will you be there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: sun365 on June 20, 2012, 04:36:35 PM
I plan on being there second week of July. I have been there last year and stayed near Kaosan but this time I need to be in Sukumvit area.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 20, 2012, 07:14:18 PM
Not sure about distance, but the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit is a great hotel.. very nice pool as well, worth considering.. spg used to have it cash and points which might be around the price you are looking for..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: sun365 on June 20, 2012, 11:55:22 PM
Nice hotel for sure. But a lot more money that my budget (not over $70).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 21, 2012, 12:33:48 AM
Nice hotel for sure. But a lot more money that my budget (not over $70).
i dont know anything about these hotels, but from a simple google search, here seems like nice rooms for that price range. 31.5 THB = $1

Furama Silom (http://www.furama.com/silom/) - from 2,016 THB  - bout 10 min. drive to sukhumvit, hour walk to the shul
Swiss Park Hotel (http://www.swissparkhotelbangkok.com/) - from 1,400 THB - located on sukhumvit soi 11 (30 min walk)
Citrus (http://www.citrus22bangkok.com/) - from 1,679 THB - located on Sukhumvit soi 22 - 10 min. walk to the shul

and heres a list of bangkok hotels with price ranges in general http://www.bangkokmag.infothai.com/bkkhotel2000.htm

have in mind that even though the address may be sukhumvit but its an extremely long road so it can be really far, - check google maps to see how far.
the corret address to the chabad shul is - 121 Soi Sai Nam Thip 2, Sukhumvit Soi 22
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on June 21, 2012, 02:21:18 AM
Nice hotel for sure. But a lot more money that my budget (not over $70).

If you have Starwood points it will cost 4000 points and $60 a night...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: sun365 on June 22, 2012, 10:37:04 AM
I don't have these points and I want to spend up to $70.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: sun365 on June 22, 2012, 10:41:40 AM
Citrus looks good. I also see the S Sukhumvit Suites which is a bit closer to the train for a little less and I might take that off of hotesl.com which has a 10% discount
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on June 27, 2012, 07:12:42 AM
Is it worth visiting Thailand in August? Seems like it rains tons that time of year.

Was in Chiang Mai for only a day and a half and would love to go back and visit other cities/resorts as well. Will rain just ruin the whole thing?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 27, 2012, 08:28:55 AM
Is it worth visiting Thailand in August? Seems like it rains tons that time of year.

Was in Chiang Mai for only a day and a half and would love to go back and visit other cities/resorts as well. Will rain just ruin the whole thing?
chiang mai was fine last august. phuket on the other hand...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 29, 2012, 10:59:27 AM
Is it worth visiting Thailand in August? Seems like it rains tons that time of year.

Was in Chiang Mai for only a day and a half and would love to go back and visit other cities/resorts as well. Will rain just ruin the whole thing?

i ended up going to HKT - cheaper and flight availability (return on motzei shabbos) and it rained all the days besides shabbos - like heavy rain - flooded streets, so i didnt go to islands, just rented a moped for 150 baht a day and went cable skiing.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 12, 2012, 10:33:46 AM
I'm looking into a Thailand around late December/early January time and tickets from NYC are around the $1500 range. Anyone have any ideas for getting cheaper rates. I have mileage with UA, Avios and, UR
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: brytch on July 12, 2012, 01:53:23 PM
Ko Samui in fine in August... Chiang mai will prob rain a bit but doesn't ruin the experience in my opinion. Phuket you can probably skip
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 12, 2012, 01:55:43 PM
Here's my story, and I'm looking for advice.
As of now, unless I find a better flight plan, I'll be arriving Wednesday evening in August, and returning on Tuesday morning. (If you want a $50 AA gc, check out my post on the award travel thread).

This is a couple and infant traveling.

As of now, it looks like I'll have 2 main parts of the trip. Thursday night till Sunday, and Sunday till Monday evening. The 2 places we'd like to stay are as follows:
1) Chiang Mai
2) A beach resort
3) (And probably a night in Bangkok)

In Chiang Mai, I intend to stay at the Le Meridian. For the beach part, I'm looking at the different resorts available through SPG.

Here are some of my questions:
1) What is the eruv status? If I stay on a resort island, I need to find out if that'll cover me or not, but if I'm in Chiang Mai, what options do I have? How can I bring the baby to the chabad house?
2) All in all, does it make sense to stay at a beachy place for shabbos? That way, I'd at least be able to enjoy the beauty. What could I do in Chiang Mai on shabbos afternoon?
2-a) Can I order shabbos food from Chabad on Thursday, or to be delivered to the BKK airport?
3) Which SPG beach options would you recommend? All in all, I'd like s/t with a nice property, good snorkeling/scuba diving, and accessible by flight.
4) If I take a late night flight, and land after midnight, is it easy/safe to get to the ultimate hotel destination?
5) Does AirAsia usually run on-time, or late? Should I not risk booking a flight back to BKK too close to my departing flight? Any other good flying options?
6) Any tips for being upgraded at SPG for a gold member? How about for a villa with a private pool? Looking at the low costs of the rooms, I may just decide to pay for it, but would that make it more likely or less likely to be upgraded? Does the $20 sandwich trick work at these places?
7) If I fly from Chiang Mai, it'll take me to Phuket. If I need to access one of the resorts further up the coast, do you recommend renting a car, or a cab, or ...?

I'll have plenty of questions, and would greatly appreciate all advice.
Thanks ya'll!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: brytch on July 12, 2012, 02:14:59 PM
Here are some of my questions:
1) What is the eruv status? If I stay on a resort island, I need to find out if that'll cover me or not, but if I'm in Chiang Mai, what options do I have? How can I bring the baby to the chabad house?

Chabad can arrange to have a goy bring you baby to Chabad if you so desire..
2) All in all, does it make sense to stay at a beachy place for shabbos? That way, I'd at least be able to enjoy the beauty. What could I do in Chiang Mai on shabbos afternoon?
You were looking into maldives, keep in mind you won't be staying in anything like that. If weather is important, you are most likely to find good weather in Ko Samui and surrounding areas.  Snorkeling and Diving are done further away near other islands via day trips
2-a) Can I order shabbos food from Chabad on Thursday, or to be delivered to the BKK airport?
I wouldn't bother from BKK think it would be harder bc they have a big operation bkk is far.. easier from Chiang Mai or Ko  Samui
3) Which SPG beach options would you recommend? All in all, I'd like s/t with a nice property, good snorkeling/scuba diving, and accessible by flight.

Good snorkeling scuba this time of year will only be on the gulf (ko samui, phangan and tao) there are two SPG, W overly prices, and le meridian which I haven't seen.. neither will have snorkeling right there but you can arrange a day trip to ang thong marine park or snorkeling near ko tao...)
4) If I take a late night flight, and land after midnight, is it easy/safe to get to the ultimate hotel destination?

Yes!

5) Does AirAsia usually run on-time, or late? Should I not risk booking a flight back to BKK too close to my departing flight? Any other good flying options?
Bangkok Air is a more reliable airline. Air Asia nickel and dimes you for luggage seats etc...

6) Any tips for being upgraded at SPG for a gold member? How about for a villa with a private pool? Looking at the low costs of the rooms, I may just decide to pay for it, but would that make it more likely or less likely to be upgraded? Does the $20 sandwich trick work at these places?
Never heard of the money working for upgrade, probably have to pay.. if you want private pool you probably need to go to Khao Lak but again sea is rough there and swimming isn't recommended (no diving or snorkeling..)

7) If I fly from Chiang Mai, it'll take me to Phuket. If I need to access one of the resorts further up the coast, do you recommend renting a car, or a cab, or ...?
taxi

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 12, 2012, 02:26:01 PM
Thanks brytch!
I'll be back with some more q's, but that's a great help.

And I may need to just hold off on my snorkeling wish this trip, and wait till I actually do make it out to MLE.

Which SPG beach place is the nicest IYO?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 12, 2012, 04:20:30 PM
Thanks for recommending Bangkok Airways. Service sounds good, and prices are similar.

Any benefit to booking on Thai since they're part of the Star Alliance? I don't have status.

Maybe hire rice paddy farmers to fly back and forth, and have the miles credit to my account?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 12, 2012, 05:42:39 PM
Another question.
My HH just posted, so I have 200k to use.
Is the Conrad Koh Samui worth it at 50k per night for 2 or 3 nights? The room has a plunge pool.

Any other HH properties anyone would recommend in Thailand?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 16, 2012, 05:00:26 PM
Anyone been to Phi Phi? Was told by boss that it was his favorite spot there.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 16, 2012, 05:02:01 PM
Anyone been to Phi Phi? Was told by boss that it was his favorite spot there.
In this time of year it can be very rainy and windy so make sure u have good weather before u go.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
when i was in hkt last august, the boats werent going
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 16, 2012, 05:10:10 PM
I'll post up my basic trip structure tomorrow, but if I need to choose btw Krabi, Ko Samui, Khao Lak, or Phuket for early August, what would you recommend? I'll be traveling from Chiang Mai, so I would prefer to avoid having to do any flight stop overs.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 05:19:34 PM
i think its been discussed many times that khao lak or phuket is a big mistake in august, unless you enjoy watching the rain from your room
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 16, 2012, 05:24:10 PM
I'll post up my basic trip structure tomorrow, but if I need to choose btw Krabi, Ko Samui, Khao Lak, or Phuket for early August, what would you recommend? I'll be traveling from Chiang Mai, so I would prefer to avoid having to do any flight stop overs.
USM - id say uve got a better chance with the rain but again , not forsure
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 16, 2012, 05:30:22 PM
USM - id say uve got a better chance with the rain but again , not forsure
what's usm?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 16, 2012, 05:33:53 PM
what's usm?
airport code for koa samui
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 16, 2012, 06:20:38 PM
what's usm?
Bookmark this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/acl/
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 16, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Bookmark this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/acl/
nice
guess thats easier than googling 'usm airport'
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 16, 2012, 08:37:40 PM
Bookmark this:
http://www.flyertalk.com/acl/
Done

nice
thats easier than googling 'usm airport'
+1
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 17, 2012, 05:29:02 PM
So due to weather considerations and not wanting to be spending too much time traveling, we're considering spending most of the time in the Chiang Mai area. 2 nights would be in the city, and another 2 or 3 nights in a resort outside of the city.
This place caught my eye since it's next to a river and waterfall. http://www.sukantara.com/  The trip advisor reviews are good, and I'm not looking for a budget place which received most of their best reviews. I emailed them if they can bring in kosher food from the chabad, and I'll await their response.

We're also considering SPG's beautiful looking resort in Chiang Rai. Le Meridien Chiang Rai Resort
Its a 5 star place, but is only SPG 2 level, and nights start at 75 per night. And its ranked #1 on trip advisor for the area.
Anyone have an idea how much a cab would cost btw Mai and Rai?
Thoughts? It looks like btw relaxing, sitting out the rain, and shopping, we should have more than enough to do in the area for 5 days including shabbos. And then we'll spend the last day in Bangkok.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2012, 05:30:08 PM
I'd split the time between CM and CR.
Forget BKK.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 17, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
I'd split the time between CM and CR.
Forget BKK.
So spend less than 24 hrs in BKK?
Did you do CR? Anything unique there as opposed to CM? Or go b/c of the resort?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 17, 2012, 05:35:36 PM
So due to weather considerations and not wanting to be spending too much time traveling, we're considering spending most of the time in the Chiang Mai area. 2 nights would be in the city, and another 2 or 3 nights in a resort outside of the city.
This place caught my eye since it's next to a river and waterfall. http://www.sukantara.com/  The trip advisor reviews are good, and I'm not looking for a budget place which received most of their best reviews. I emailed them if they can bring in kosher food from the chabad, and I'll await their response.

We're also considering SPG's beautiful looking resort in Chiang Rai. Le Meridien Chiang Rai Resort
Its a 5 star place, but is only SPG 2 level, and nights start at 75 per night. And its ranked #1 on trip advisor for the area.
Anyone have an idea how much a cab would cost btw Mai and Rai?
Thoughts? It looks like btw relaxing, sitting out the rain, and shopping, we should have more than enough to do in the area for 5 days including shabbos. And then we'll spend the last day in Bangkok.
I'd split the time between CM and CR.
Forget BKK.

If departing in the evening, I would try and get into BKK around Noon with enough time to see the Palace and check out some of the markets.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2012, 05:44:43 PM
If departing in the evening, I would try and get into BKK around Noon with enough time to see the Palace and check out some of the markets.
Are the markets in BKK any better than the Satuday night Wua-Lai or Sunday night markets in CNX?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 17, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
Are the markets in BKK any better than the Satuday night Wua-Lai or Sunday night markets in CNX?

Less cool crafts etc but better high quality knockoffs in the night market near the stadium

Also i think that the Chabad House is a sight to see as well

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 17, 2012, 06:30:11 PM
Anyone have an idea how much a cab would cost btw Mai and Rai?
go to Pai
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: brytch on July 17, 2012, 07:04:03 PM
If money is not an issue check out the Mandarin Oriental Dhara Dhevi (http://www.mandarinoriental.com/chiangmai/) one of the best resorts in the world.. if you aren't traveling with kids then the Four Seasons Golden Triangle is something else (http://www.fourseasons.com/goldentriangle/)

IF you are with a baby, I would recommend staying somewhere close to Chiang Mai. Pai is nice, but it's about a 3 hour drive with lots of twists and turns, sure to get you dizzy and perhaps arrive with a headache and some throw up.. (if you're solo, would definitely recommend it's a backpackers town, lots of fun)  I first went there some 12-13 years ago, then again last year. lots has changed..

But generally I think most activities are surrounding Chiang Mai. There is very little in Chiang Rai to do which can't be done in CM.. CR is much smaller. Golden Triangle sounds a lot more interesting than it actually is. There are so many great resorts around CM why waste time on traveling.

Keep in mind it's rainy season there too, so weather in CM and CR can be on and off rain.. never bothered me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: brytch on July 17, 2012, 07:08:12 PM
my personal opinion about BKK, stay away.. I've been to Thailand many times (last time about 2 weeks ago) and my biggest mistake was wasting time there once..

Depending on when you arrive, if you must stay the night I would even suggest staying around the airport and saving the ride into the city.. Aside from Chabad restaurant, and some awesome malls, not much you can't see elsewhere, and it's just super hot + humid, and very crowded, busy etc..

really don't care for it.

Ho Chi Minh on the other hand.... (I don't hate all big cities..)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 17, 2012, 07:12:14 PM
Pai is nice, but it's about a 3 hour drive with lots of twists and turns, sure to get you dizzy and perhaps arrive with a headache and some throw up.. (if you're solo, would definitely recommend it's a backpackers town, lots of fun)  I first went there some 12-13 years ago, then again last year. lots has changed..
they say its more of a romantic place for a couple..

my personal opinion about BKK, stay away.. I've been to Thailand....
+1..though i would prob stop in for a day trip if u had time... just because i would like to see what its like...but thats just me.

Depending on when you arrive, if you must stay the night I would even suggest staying around the airport and saving the ride into the city.. Aside from the [Awesome]Chabad restaurant, and some awesome (cool) malls, not much you can't see elsewhere, and it's just super hot + humid, and very crowded, busy etc..
FTFY
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 18, 2012, 11:05:09 AM
So my options for flying are as follows?
-Bangkok Air
-Thai Airlines
-Air Asia

Also, I saw that Tiger Airways has very low fares, although it doesn't help me for inter-Thailand flights. Just an FYI.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 18, 2012, 12:14:34 PM
I have 2 Park Plaza choices for my 1 night BKK stay.

Park Plaza Bangkok Soi 18 
Park Plaza Sukhumvit Hotel, Bangkok 

The second looks nicer, but the website says they're both centrally located.
Which one is better located for some evening shopping/walking around?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 06:53:10 AM
So my options for flying are as follows?
-Bangkok Air
-Thai Airlines
-Air Asia

Also, I saw that Tiger Airways has very low fares, although it doesn't help me for inter-Thailand flights. Just an FYI.
Thai is best then comes Bangkok air then comes air Asia. Idk anything about tiger.
Domestic thai flights are usually cheap on air Asia though

When looking for domestic flights I have found skyscanner.com to be the cheapest
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 07:35:16 AM
Thai is best then comes Bangkok air then comes air Asia. Idk anything about tiger.
Domestic thai flights are usually cheap on air Asia though

When looking for domestic flights I have found skyscanner.com to be the cheapest
Thanks. I saw that with the BKK to Chiang Rai route. Air Asia was around 60% the cost, but I'm unsure how much the baggage fees might cut into that.

Got another question.
Is a 2-3 hour layover in BKK after coming in from AMM enough time to take a cab to Chabad and buy food? How far is it? Can I pay Chabad to deliver to deliver to the airport?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 09:11:09 AM
Thanks. I saw that with the BKK to Chiang Rai route. Air Asia was around 60% the cost, but I'm unsure how much the baggage fees might cut into that.

Got another question.
Is a 2-3 hour layover in BKK after coming in from AMM enough time to take a cab to Chabad and buy food? How far is it? Can I pay Chabad to deliver to deliver to the airport?
It usually is really cheap but baggage will make up for it . Also they're very strict on overhead luggage . I flew them with only overhead and I managed to slip by an extra piece.

I'll tell u how long it takes to chabad and u decide.  From the time u get into the cab until chabad it can take between 30 min to 1hr or sometimes 1:15 if there's traffic.
What time do u land and I'll tell u if its rush hour or not?

And if u do that make sure to call the order in once u get to the taxi so its ready right away.
They do deliver for a charge of 150 THB but I don't think to airport . Double check though
One last hing make sure you only pay the meter for taxis in BKK and if u can't find a meter guy then not more than 350 baht for the trip to Chabad each way.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 09:41:48 AM
It usually is really cheap but baggage will make up for it . Also they're very strict on overhead luggage . I flew them with only overhead and I managed to slip by an extra piece.

I'll tell u how long it takes to chabad and u decide.  From the time u get into the cab until chabad it can take between 30 min to 1hr or sometimes 1:15 if there's traffic.
What time do u land and I'll tell u if its rush hour or not?

And if u do that make sure to call the order in once u get to the taxi so its ready right away.
They do deliver for a charge of 150 THB but I don't think to airport . Double check though
One last hing make sure you only pay the meter for taxis in BKK and if u can't find a meter guy then not more than 350 baht for the trip to Chabad each way.

Thanks for the help CBS
My flight from AMM is supposed to land around 15:30, and I can either take the next flight at 18:20 or 17:10 or so.

From what you're saying, it seems like it will be too little time to risk with the rush hour.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 19, 2012, 03:05:13 PM
I will be traveling to Thailand with my wife in a few weeks, and will be there for 4/5 days
We are arriving in BKK-Monday. Tue morning we are off to-CNX (Chiang Mai).
We are leaving Thailand from BKK late Saturday night, which means we will need to be in BKK for Shabbos.
What are the suggestions of things to do in that time frame?
Is it worth taking a flight to Phukhet or Koh Samui or anther beachy area? Or would it make more sense to just stay in the Chiang Mai area and still feel that we experienced Thailand?
Thanks.


Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 03:08:37 PM
Thanks for the help CBS
My flight from AMM is supposed to land around 15:30, and I can either take the next flight at 18:20 or 17:10 or so.

From what you're saying, it seems like it will be too little time to risk with the rush hour.
ok  so by the time you get out itll be prob close to 4 pm and idk what day ur talking but if its mid week then itll prob take about 45 min. or so each way but with the traffic in BKK you can never know...you may sit there for at least an hour...happened to me multiple times.

if its sunday it shouldnt take more than a half hour - 35max
(i think you mean one flight at 18:20 and the next at 19:10 (7:10pm) )
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 03:13:54 PM
I will be traveling to Thailand with my wife in a few weeks, and will be there for 4/5 days
We are arriving in BKK-Monday. Tue morning we are off to-CNX (Chiang Mai).
We are leaving Thailand from BKK late Saturday night, which means we will need to be in BKK for Shabbos.
What are the suggestions of things to do in that time frame?
Is it worth taking a flight to Phukhet or Koh Samui or anther beachy area? Or would it make more sense to just stay in the Chiang Mai area and still feel that we experienced Thailand?
Thanks.
i have never been to CNX but i can tell you what many people have told me (spoke to many tourists there) and you will forsure feel the thailand experience by just going to CNX and a day in BKK (im sure Dan will say the same :) ) but if you want a nice relaxing time you can go to the beaches - and its beautiful there. the only thing is that if you are planning the trip within the next few weeks then your best bet is to prob just stay in CNX because its the rainy season and its not worth the beaches then.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 03:17:44 PM
I will be traveling to Thailand with my wife in a few weeks, and will be there for 4/5 days
We are arriving in BKK-Monday. Tue morning we are off to-CNX (Chiang Mai).
We are leaving Thailand from BKK late Saturday night, which means we will need to be in BKK for Shabbos.
What are the suggestions of things to do in that time frame?
Is it worth taking a flight to Phukhet or Koh Samui or anther beachy area? Or would it make more sense to just stay in the Chiang Mai area and still feel that we experienced Thailand?
Thanks.



Read down for discussion about the beach resorts. Due to the weather concerns, I'm not going to those places. I'll be staying in Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai.

Maybe we'll meet up :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 03:18:24 PM
ok  so by the time you get out itll be prob close to 4 pm and idk what day ur talking but if its mid week then itll prob take about 45 min. or so each way but with the traffic in BKK you can never know...you may sit there for at least an hour...happened to me multiple times.

if its sunday it shouldnt take more than a half hour - 35max
(i think you mean one flight at 18:20 and the next at 19:10 (7:10pm) )
Landing on Monday.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 19, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Read down for discussion about the beach resorts. Due to the weather concerns, I'm not going to those places. I'll be staying in Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai.

Maybe we'll meet up :)

The week of April 12? ;)
Thanks, i will do a bit of research on Caing Rai
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
The week of April 12? ;)
you said you're traveling in a few weeks...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 19, 2012, 03:36:54 PM
My bad, August 12
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 19, 2012, 03:44:50 PM
Is there a 1stop website to search flights within Thailand (kayak only seems to pull up Thai air with what i tried)?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 03:44:55 PM
My bad, August 12
We're there the same weekend.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 03:49:59 PM
Is there a 1stop website to search flights within Thailand (kayak only seems to pull up Thai air with what i tried)?

When looking for domestic flights I have found skyscanner.com to be the cheapest
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 19, 2012, 03:58:20 PM
Thanks CBS

Im leaning towards skipping the beaches, although i read that Koh Samui has better weather than phuket and other beaches this time of year,  would you know anything about that?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 19, 2012, 04:00:31 PM
Thanks CBS

Im leaning towards skipping the beaches, although i read that Koh Samui has better weather than phuket and other beaches this time of year,  would you know anything about that?
thats what i heard as well but im not there now so i dont know forsure...all i know is that in early june when it rained hard in phuket and in BKK it was fine in koa samui
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 19, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
thats what i heard as well but im not there now so i dont know forsure...all i know is that in early june when it rained hard in phuket and in BKK it was fine in koa samui
I checked the Thai website for weather, and the avg number of rainy days in Samui was close to the amount in Phuket, just that the total rainfall is less.
Also, most flight options from Chiang Mai to Samui are with a stopover, only one is direct, and it's expensive by Thai standards.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 20, 2012, 08:16:52 AM
http://www.jewishthailand.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/913059/jewish/Bangkok.htm
seems to be three places in bangkok that have shabbos meals. which one is the most ejoyable experience? going with my wife and baby
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 20, 2012, 01:43:14 PM
Has anyone checked out the floating markets in and near Bangkok?
Has anyone come across any nice very quiet beaches within driving distance of Bangkok?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 20, 2012, 01:50:11 PM
http://www.jewishthailand.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/913059/jewish/Bangkok.htm
seems to be three places in bangkok that have shabbos meals. which one is the most ejoyable experience? going with my wife and baby

The only one i can answer for is Ohr Menachem Chabad.
I just spoke to a friend that was there last year who really enjoyed it, and had a amazing experience there, and Rabbi Nechemia Whillhelm is a amazing person. You just need to keep in mind that its geared towards Israeli tourists from what i hear.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 20, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
http://www.jewishthailand.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/913059/jewish/Bangkok.htm
seems to be three places in bangkok that have shabbos meals. which one is the most ejoyable experience? going with my wife and baby
Chabad next to kao sahn rd is the most exciting one with young tourists and its all in Hebrew .
The one by sukhumvit is geared, towards families and English speaking / businessman and the one in shangri la hotel is the sfardi people, (chabad rabbi)
I would say go to the main chabad house with wilhelm (next to kao sahn. Rd) . Its fun its free its exciting,  pretty good food. Great people
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 20, 2012, 04:34:26 PM
Chabad next to kao sahn rd is the most exciting one with young tourists and its all in Hebrew .
The one by sukhumvit is geared, towards families and English speaking / businessman and the one in shangri la hotel is the sfardi people, (chabad rabbi)
I would say go to the main chabad house with wilhelm (next to kao sahn. Rd) . Its fun its free its exciting,  pretty good food. Great people

And don't forget to leave a nice donation. Remember that even the "Restaurant" is highly subsidized
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 23, 2012, 01:37:48 AM
I saw another airline. Orient Thai Airlines.

Any review? They seem pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 24, 2012, 03:49:32 PM
Anyone have kashrus advice? Can the coffee or sugar in hotels be used? What can be bought off the streets?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 24, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
On my fourth try.
Couple agents have started doing it and then realized that I must transit BKK twice. Then they say its not allowed...

Damaxer, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

It was again and again and again AND again but I got an agent to process it. Just hope the re-ticketing isnt manual and someone else notices :-\

sorry to bring back and old topic.
what did you say on the phone? im flying to bkk and than i have a flight from hkt to hkg. trying to add bkk to cnx and than cnx to hkt. they told me that phuket is farther than bkk so it cant be done. what would everyone advise that i say on the phone?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on July 24, 2012, 10:09:15 PM
sorry to bring back and old topic.
what did you say on the phone? im flying to bkk and than i have a flight from hkt to hkg. trying to add bkk to cnx and than cnx to hkt. they told me that phuket is farther than bkk so it cant be done. what would everyone advise that i say on the phone?
If the agent knows the rules, there's nothing you can say.

Just keep calling back and asking for the flights to be added. Hopefully you'll find someone to do it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 24, 2012, 11:45:36 PM
sorry to bring back and old topic.
what did you say on the phone? im flying to bkk and than i have a flight from hkt to hkg. trying to add bkk to cnx and than cnx to hkt. they told me that phuket is farther than bkk so it cant be done. what would everyone advise that i say on the phone?
HUCA.... Thats how we all got there  :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 25, 2012, 10:33:23 AM
Chabad next to kao sahn rd is the most exciting one with young tourists and its all in Hebrew .
The one by sukhumvit is geared, towards families and English speaking / businessman and the one in shangri la hotel is the sfardi people, (chabad rabbi)
I would say go to the main chabad house with wilhelm (next to kao sahn. Rd) . Its fun its free its exciting,  pretty good food. Great people

any nice hotels that work for shabbos in the area?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 25, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
any nice hotels that work for shabbos in the area?
theres Viengtai Hotel (http://www.viengtai.co.th/en/) which is across the chabad house and its not amazingly nice but its decent..about 1800-2000 baht a night .
there is another one thats newer in the area, i dont know what its called but you can come to chabad the day you get there and ask.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 01:31:22 PM
Here is our tentative itinerary for our trip.

Fly from TLV to AMM to BKK in biz class.
Suffer a 12 hour stopover in AMM. Unsure if we'll stay in lounge, or go into the city. I still haven't seen anything particularly interesting in the city to do. (Anyone know which hotel status's give you benefits in their lounges? I recall signing up for s/t once that lets you stop in and have free tea or s/t.)
Land in BKK from AMM in the afternoon.
Have a 3-4 layover and fly to Chiang Rai.
While in BKK, have Chabad deliver food to airport for 500 Baht fee.
Land in Chiang Rai in evening, stay in Le Meridian for 2 nights on c&p
Perhaps hire a driver for day to take us around to sites. (Laos perhaps?) I received a price quote from s/o who was recommended on FT for 2,000 baht + gas for the day.
Take either a bus or car service from Chiang Rai to Chiang Mai after the 2 nights. (Any advice for what to do on the way? If there is s/t, we'd pay a car service.)
Spend 3 nights including shabbos at a resort outside of Chiang Mai.
The activities I am hoping to do include the Gibbons zip line, night safari, elephant ride, Sunday night shuk, waterfall. I'd be interested in hearing more ideas.
Spend the 4th night at the Le Meridian on c&p (which was only bookable after hours of calls and chats. it seems that they don't have 'standard' rooms, they're all deluxe or higher)
Fly to BKK, spend the evening at Park Plaza to receive 50k Carlson points, leave early the next morning.
Fly from BKK to Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific biz class, short stopover, and then back to TLV on El Al.

I'd love anyone's advice or comments.

Also, I'm going to bump this question I asked.
Anyone have kashrus advice? Can the coffee or sugar in hotels be used? What can be bought off the streets?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 25, 2012, 01:40:39 PM
2,000 Baht+gas sounds very expensive for a driver for a day.
We had a driver for a day in CM and it was maybe 800 Baht with gas IIRC.

Also don't miss the Saturday night market in CNX, the elephant show (supposedly there's a better place to actually ride the elephants), monkey show, cobra show, tiger kingdom, river ride, etc.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 03:22:23 PM
2,000 Baht+gas sounds very expensive for a driver for a day.
We had a driver for a day in CM and it was maybe 800 Baht with gas IIRC.

Also don't miss the Saturday night market in CNX, the elephant show (supposedly there's a better place to actually ride the elephants), monkey show, cobra show, tiger kingdom, river ride, etc.
never thought I would hear that $70 per day + gas is expensive for a car and tour guide :)  Gotta love the prices.

Is the Sunday night shuk than Saturday night? So they sell different stuff? Is the river ride okay for an infant, or is it not even worth asking?

Finally, any thoughts on the kashrus, or did you just eat at chabad when you were there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 25, 2012, 03:27:03 PM
You're talking about a city where a cab from the airport to the hotel costs $4...

I wasn't there for Sunday evening, but from what I heard they are very different.  There's also a nightly market of knockoffs on the street that the LM and Chabad are on.

I also didn't have time for the river ride, you'll have to ask ChikkyMonkey, he's the expert on CNX.

We just ate at Chabad and fressed on lots of Osem Tea Biscuits from their small store when doing activities.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 25, 2012, 03:53:36 PM
With regards to your flights there:

1) Keep in mind that El Al business Class to BKK often opens on the day of departure.
2) Instead of wasting a day in AMM, see if EY Business is open and spend a day in AUH for the same amount of miles.

PM me if you need help checking availability
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 25, 2012, 04:27:51 PM
While in BKK, have Chabad deliver food to airport for 500 Baht fee.

Perhaps hire a driver for day to take us around to sites. (Laos perhaps?) I received a price quote from s/o who was recommended on FT for 2,000 baht + gas for the day.

I'd love anyone's advice or comments.
did u confirm with chabad that they will deliver to the airport for 500 baht?

and a driver for the day at 2000 baht i also think is a bit expensive, especially if its just for around CNX. if you are leaving the city and its a few hours drive than it would make sense but im sure you can find cheaper... or bargain down

Finally, any thoughts on the kashrus, or did you just eat at chabad when you were there?
there are very few items you can buy outside in the streets with a hechsher. but if u want regular meals than stick with chabad....i only ate there (5 months straight!) i can tell you the menu by heart if you want ;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
did u confirm with chabad that they will deliver to the airport for 500 baht?

and a driver for the day at 2000 baht i also think is a bit expensive, especially if its just for around CNX. if you are leaving the city and its a few hours drive than it would make sense but im sure you can find cheaper... or bargain down

I called Chabad, and that's what a lady told me, but I'm not counting on it. I'll call them closer to the date to confirm.

W/ regards to the price, if we paid s/o, it would be to do a day trip to the environs. He sent me a list of 10 sample day trips, and if anyone's interested, I can post it here.

Also, any update on the sim cards? Do I need to bring a phone to use and try to find a sim card? Do they still have them in the airport? And where is the best place to exchange money? Street?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 25, 2012, 05:09:41 PM
Here is our tentative itinerary for our trip.

Spend the 4th night at the Le Meridian on c&p (which was only bookable after hours of calls and chats. it seems that they don't have 'standard' rooms, they're all deluxe or higher)


What did you tell them in order to book? I need to call them tonight, last time i tried the reservation was closed.

I have one day im looking to spend at a resort my options are either-

Chiang Rai LM Cat 2
Seems like a nicer area but it will mean driving up 3 hours on Thursday and then taking a 10:40 flight, arrive 11:4- on Friday  ($89) so we could be Shabbos in Bangkok to catch our 1:00am flight out Moitzei Shabbos, i would also like time Friday to check out the palace and floating markets

Sheraton Pattaya Cat 4
The resort is just south of Pattaya along the beach i dont plan on going in to the city) but since we are going to be in BKK for Friday and Shabbos it might just be worth flying CNX-BKK on Thursday57$ and spending the Thursday afternoon and night at the Sheraton


 
Land in Chiang Rai in evening, stay in Le Meridian for 2 nights on c&p

Is there anything specific you found to do in Chiang Rai that cant be done out of Chiang Mai, or are you going more for the LM which seems to be very nice?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 25, 2012, 05:11:22 PM

W/ regards to the price, if we paid s/o, it would be to do a day trip to the environs. He sent me a list of 10 sample day trips, and if anyone's interested, I can post it here.
I would be interested maybe it will give me some more ideas :D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 25, 2012, 05:26:39 PM
I called Chabad, and that's what a lady told me, but I'm not counting on it. I'll call them closer to the date to confirm.

Also, any update on the sim cards? Do I need to bring a phone to use and try to find a sim card? Do they still have them in the airport? And where is the best place to exchange money? Street?
if she told you they deliver than they deliver...i just dont remember them delivering there prob becasue its an unusual request but i guess they do.
with a sim card, i dont recall seeing free ones anywhere - even in airport. but you can get "trueMove" sim card and usually itll cost bet 50 - 100 baht and it comes with like 35 baht already on it, and the rates in thailand are 1 baht per minute and its i think the same to call US (or maybe 3 baht)
or go to any 7-11 and they usually have the simcards, and thats where u topup if u need to.
regarding money exchange, id say at the airport isnt too bad but maybe in street ull get a drop more.- check the rate before you leave and see what they give in airport. (in BKK all money places give same rate)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 05:38:12 PM
if she told you they deliver than they deliver...i just dont remember them delivering there prob becasue its an unusual request but i guess they do.
with a sim card, i dont recall seeing free ones anywhere - even in airport. but you can get "trueMove" sim card and usually itll cost bet 50 - 100 baht and it comes with like 35 baht already on it, and the rates in thailand are 1 baht per minute and its i think the same to call US (or maybe 3 baht)
or go to any 7-11 and they usually have the simcards, and thats where u topup if u need to.
regarding money exchange, id say at the airport isnt too bad but maybe in street ull get a drop more.- check the rate before you leave and see what they give in airport. (in BKK all money places give same rate)

But I would need to bring a global phone to put the SIM card into? (excuse my complete ignorance about SIM cards)
Would my Israel phone work?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 25, 2012, 05:41:44 PM
But I would need to bring a global phone to put the SIM card into? (excuse my complete ignorance about SIM cards)
Would my Israel phone work?
ur israel phone should work
and it costs also like 1 - 3 baht to call israel as well
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 25, 2012, 05:46:51 PM
the river ride is perfectly fine for an infant

the sunday night market is indeed different than the sat night one
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 25, 2012, 05:55:40 PM
the river ride is perfectly fine for an infant

the sunday night market is indeed different than the sat night one
whats the difference?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 25, 2012, 05:58:59 PM
different items for sale
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 26, 2012, 03:40:56 PM
HUCA.... Thats how we all got there  :)
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not only did this not work for me, it totally backfired. i called 3 times to add bkk cnx to my flight to no avail, they did tell me bkk to hkt would be ok as i a/h was stopping in hkt ( i have a flight leaving from there to hong kong). when i called now to add that flight they told me that my reservation was illegeal and that they had a note that i called numerous times to add a flight, and bacially we are not happy with you so we wont add this flight for you. i told them that as i was told by two people that i could add this flight i booked a hotel for $300 for that night. they kindly offered to cancel my flight for me. as if thats going to help with all my other confirmed hotel reservations.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 26, 2012, 03:47:27 PM
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not only did this not work for me, it totally backfired. i called 3 times to add bkk cnx to my flight to no avail, they did tell me bkk to hkt would be ok as i a/h was stopping in hkt ( i have a flight leaving from there to hong kong). when i called now to add that flight they told me that my reservation was illegeal and that they had a note that i called numerous times to add a flight, and bacially we are not happy with you so we wont add this flight for you. i told them that as i was told by two people that i could add this flight i booked a hotel for $300 for that night. they kindly offered to cancel my flight for me. as if thats going to help with all my other confirmed hotel reservations.
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Wow! That's s/t I'm afraid about as well for my calls.

As of now though, they haven't canceled you? Did they tell you what's illegal?

Worst comes to worst, the flights from BKK up north run as low as 50-70 pp one way
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 26, 2012, 04:00:20 PM
HUCA.... Thats how we all got there  :)
not only did this not work for me, it totally backfired. i called 3 times to add bkk cnx to my flight to no avail, they did tell me bkk to hkt would be ok as i a/h was stopping in hkt ( i have a flight leaving from there to hong kong). when i called now to add that flight they told me that my reservation was illegeal and that they had a note that i called numerous times to add a flight, and bacially we are not happy with you so we wont add this flight for you. i told them that as i was told by two people that i could add this flight i booked a hotel for $300 for that night. they kindly offered to cancel my flight for me. as if thats going to help with all my other confirmed hotel reservations.
If this is aa, ur had bad luck. If this is UA the answer is.... HUCA. I've been told that before. Once it's ticketed it's illegal (as in against the law) for them to cancel it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 26, 2012, 04:02:03 PM
as of now they didnt cancel.
to fly sunday afternoon flights are about 85 person plus infant, pretty much 200 before luggage which is going to cost me about another 80. so 280 to fly economy instead of businees for 180 really sucks!! gam zoo letova
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 26, 2012, 04:02:31 PM
not only did this not work for me, it totally backfired. i called 3 times to add bkk cnx to my flight to no avail, they did tell me bkk to hkt would be ok as i a/h was stopping in hkt ( i have a flight leaving from there to hong kong). when i called now to add that flight they told me that my reservation was illegeal and that they had a note that i called numerous times to add a flight, and bacially we are not happy with you so we wont add this flight for you. i told them that as i was told by two people that i could add this flight i booked a hotel for $300 for that night. they kindly offered to cancel my flight for me. as if thats going to help with all my other confirmed hotel reservations.
If this is aa, ur had bad luck. If this is UA the answer is.... HUCA. I've been told that before. Once it's ticketed it's illegal (as in against the law) for them to cancel it.
its aeroplan
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 26, 2012, 04:04:06 PM


As of now though, they haven't canceled you? Did they tell you what's illegal?

sorry missed that part. they told me the booking from tlv to zurich to bkk is illeagal
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 26, 2012, 04:24:30 PM

As of now though, they haven't canceled you? Did they tell you what's illegal?

sorry missed that part. they told me the booking from tlv to zurich to bkk is illeagal

Wow. Good for you that s/o booked that for you.
It's illegal b/c it's backtracking?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on July 26, 2012, 04:28:59 PM
Wow. Good for you that s/o booked that for you.
It's illegal b/c it's backtracking?
i was considering cancelling and rebooking as anyhow there are better flights now. however if it really is illegal than i definetly wont go that route
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 26, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
What did you tell them in order to book? I need to call them tonight, last time i tried the reservation was closed.

I have one day im looking to spend at a resort my options are either-

Chiang Rai LM Cat 2
Seems like a nicer area but it will mean driving up 3 hours on Thursday and then taking a 10:40 flight, arrive 11:4- on Friday  ($89) so we could be Shabbos in Bangkok to catch our 1:00am flight out Moitzei Shabbos, i would also like time Friday to check out the palace and floating markets

Sheraton Pattaya Cat 4
The resort is just south of Pattaya along the beach i dont plan on going in to the city) but since we are going to be in BKK for Friday and Shabbos it might just be worth flying CNX-BKK on Thursday57$ and spending the Thursday afternoon and night at the Sheraton


 
Is there anything specific you found to do in Chiang Rai that cant be done out of Chiang Mai, or are you going more for the LM which seems to be very nice?

Just saw your questions.

With regards to the Chiang Rai, I finally found a supervisor who confirmed to me that they don't offer 'standard' rooms, only deluxe, but that the lowest level room should be allowed for award booking. But this may be a YMMV issue, b/c the rep I dealt with beforehand wasted over an hour of my time.

If you're rushing up to Chiang Rai for less than 24 hrs, I don't think it's worthwhile.

We're going there, partially b/c of the resort, but also so we can be more exposed to different options.

I was told by a friend who has been to Thailand a bunch of times that Pattaya is a place for Europeans to go to when they are looking for prostitutes. But the hotel looks beautiful.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 26, 2012, 04:57:17 PM
i was considering cancelling and rebooking as anyhow there are better flights now. however if it really is illegal than i definetly wont go that route
Illegal means against their ticking rules, not against the law
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 26, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
has been to Thailand a bunch of times that Pattaya is a place for Europeans to go to when they are looking for prostitutes. But the hotel looks beautiful.

+1. Your friend was right. Stay away from Pattaya. Super seedy
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on July 26, 2012, 09:53:29 PM
Like you said by doing a quick search on Pattaya the only thing i saw to do there, more or less was Night Clubs. Either way they have a minimum of 2 nights, and they are fully booked for when we need.
In the end i will probably stay at the Sheraton Hua Hin on Thursday, the rooms look decent but not amazing, but the resort itself looks beautiful, its 2 hours from BKK, which is a bit of a schlep but its near the beach and will give a good opportunity to relax after a couple busy days in Chiang mai. 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 26, 2012, 11:54:50 PM
Like you said by doing a quick search on Pattaya the only thing i saw to do there, more or less was Night Clubs. Either way they have a minimum of 2 nights, and they are fully booked for when we need.
In the end i will probably stay at the Sheraton Hua Hin on Thursday, the rooms look decent but not amazing, but the resort itself looks beautiful, its 2 hours from BKK, which is a bit of a schlep but its near the beach and will give a good opportunity to relax after a couple busy days in Chiang mai. 

Oops, looks like my comment was edited out. I hope I didn't inadvertently insult any Europeans. :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on July 29, 2012, 02:30:40 PM
Hey everybody,
 
I'm looking to go to someplace in Asia (probably Thailand as that seems to be the place with the best weather in late december and has the most kosher food) in December with my wife for about 9 days. I've been looking into Khao Lak as that seems like quite a nice location and has some decent spg hotels. Can anyone please give me advice on traveling around thailand/good travel guide/ kosher food/ best weather for late december/ what to do for 9 days? I'm going there with AAdvantage miles and coming back to NY with UA. I would like to stay a few days by the beach with nice weather and a few days checking out the jungle. Is singapore a better option? Or is Thailand perfect for what I need?

Thanks Everybody!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 29, 2012, 02:36:35 PM
Hey everybody,
 
I'm looking to go to someplace in Asia (probably Thailand as that seems to be the place with the best weather in late december and has the most kosher food) in December with my wife for about 9 days. I've been looking into Khao Lak as that seems like quite a nice location and has some decent spg hotels. Can anyone please give me advice on traveling around thailand/good travel guide/ kosher food/ best weather for late december/ what to do for 9 days? I'm going there with AAdvantage miles and coming back to NY with UA. I would like to stay a few days by the beach with nice weather and a few days checking out the jungle. Is singapore a better option? Or is Thailand perfect for what I need?

Thanks Everybody!
Singapore doesn't have much of a beach.. there's something small on sentosa island but I doubt ur looking for that. Thailand sounds perfect and its cheaper than SIN once your there
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 30, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
If I tell a cabby the name of my hotel, will they know where to go, or do I need an address?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 30, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
If I tell a cabby the name of my hotel, will they know where to go, or do I need an address?
depends where. usually they will know where it is..but bring an address in case (preferably written in thai)  if in bangkok tell me the hotel name and i can tell you what to tell the driver.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 30, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
depends where. usually they will know where it is..but bring an address in case (preferably written in thai)  if in bangkok tell me the hotel name and i can tell you what to tell the driver.
park plaza in bkk
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 30, 2012, 05:21:29 PM
park plaza in bkk
tell the driver "Sukhumvit -  Soi sib sawng" and then say park plaza hotel once he starts the meter. and it shouldnt be more than 300thb on the meter.. my guess would be around 275 thb or so. + the highway tolls which are another 70 thb
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 30, 2012, 05:33:29 PM
tell the driver "Sukhumvit -  Soi sib sawng" and then say park plaza hotel once he starts the meter. and it shouldnt be more than 300thb on the meter.. my guess would be around 275 thb or so. + the highway tolls which are another 70 thb

ผมขอขอบคุณคุณ o ดีอย่างใดอย่างหนึ่ง, CBS
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 30, 2012, 05:35:31 PM
ผมขอขอบคุณคุณ o ดีอย่างใดอย่างหนึ่ง, CBS
your welcome :)

btw thank you in thai is  karp-kun-krap (all in one word) and if you are a woman u say kaaa instead of krap at end
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: pianodude on July 30, 2012, 06:48:28 PM
park plaza in bkk

There are two Park Plaza hotels in BKK.  I will be staying at the Park Plaza Bangkok Soi 18 in a few weeks; the other is only a few blocks away, the Park Plaza Sukhumvit Bangkok.  I would recommend having the address written down for the driver.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 30, 2012, 07:06:10 PM
There are two Park Plaza hotels in BKK.  I will be staying at the Park Plaza Bangkok Soi 18 in a few weeks; the other is only a few blocks away, the Park Plaza Sukhumvit Bangkok.  I would recommend having the address written down for the driver.
well if thats the case then tell the driver "sukhumvit soi sib paed" (make sure to stress on the "a" bit more because if you say "sib ped" thats 11)

@reuven - i assumed you were on soi 12

and the reason i say to say it in thai, is because i found that whenever a tourist would enter a taxi and say something in english like they didnt know where it was then the driver always take advantage and ask for a high price and not use the meter. On the other hand if you say it as if you know the place and you just get in taxi and wait for him to turn on meter, then it usually works

from the airport on the other hand, they know almost everyone is tourist so they try giving set prices. so you may have to try a few taxis until you get a meter. - i would go up to 4th (top floor) by departures and take a taxi that dropped off someone. if you take the bottom by arrivals theres an extra charge of 50 thb...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: bigworld on July 31, 2012, 02:40:59 AM
for all of you in bangkok, if you can please post any info on where you got a sim card,arriving tom.
Also if you came accross any good itineraries or any good deals(like spas or shopping...) please pm me
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 31, 2012, 02:45:21 AM
for all of you in bangkok, if you can please post any info on where you got a sim card,arriving tom.
Also if you came accross any good itineraries or any good deals(like spas or shopping...) please pm me
why should they PM you? let them post it so others can know when they go

Heres some Sim Card info:

with a sim card, i dont recall seeing free ones anywhere - even in airport. but you can get "trueMove" sim card and usually itll cost bet 50 - 100 baht and it comes with like 35 baht already on it, and the rates in thailand are 1 baht per minute and its i think the same to call US (or maybe 3 baht)
or go to any 7-11 and they usually have the simcards, and thats where u topup if u need to.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 31, 2012, 04:56:36 AM
and the reason i say to say it in thai, is because i found that whenever a tourist would enter a taxi and say something in english like they didnt know where it was then the driver always take advantage and ask for a high price and not use the meter. On the other hand if you say it as if you know the place and you just get in taxi and wait for him to turn on meter, then it usually works

I can't just wait till I find a cab that will agree to use a meter?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 31, 2012, 05:22:40 AM
I can't just wait till I find a cab that will agree to use a meter?
It may take a while. But I'll suggest to save time just go to taxis on the arrival floor and they are official with meter andan extra 50 baht fee ($1.70) and take them
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 31, 2012, 06:14:00 AM
Another 2 questions.

Does anyone have any tour guide they would recommend in Chiang Mai?
I haven't had a chance to ask my LOR yet, but is going near the temples, statues, all halachically problematic? The white temple and temple caves look interesting, but I'm not sure how buddha fits into the jewish outlook.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: andrew on July 31, 2012, 09:50:55 AM
their is a local JEWISH travel agency right next door to chabad they could set you up with everything you need, they also have big discounts if you book activities thru them as they have all the israeli tourist business. enjoy.
ps i pm'ed you with a little favor could you please have a look.
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 31, 2012, 11:06:15 AM
their is a local JEWISH travel agency right next door to chabad they could set you up with everything you need, they also have big discounts if you book activities thru them as they have all the israeli tourist business. enjoy.
ps i pm'ed you with a little favor could you please have a look.
Yes they're called המרכז המטייל and I'll vouch for them because they're Jewish and to give them business and yes many things they have great deals on... but beware that they also tend to have high prices for certain trips/packages.
So just double check a diff agency before you go to them so you can see the diff.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on July 31, 2012, 12:02:10 PM


but I'm not sure how buddha fits into the jewish outlook.

Little know fact is that Buddha was actually an enterprising  Israeli tourist who built himself quite an empire
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on July 31, 2012, 12:02:43 PM
Little know fact is that Buddha was actually an enterprising  Israeli tourist who built himself quite an empire

ALOL. Like!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Expert Flyer on July 31, 2012, 12:48:36 PM
Since you intend to do quite a bit of touring around Thailand, I suggest you stick to the main cellphone carriers, AIS or DTAC.
By the way, when using DTAC you can also get incoming text messages through gmail chat SMS
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 31, 2012, 12:50:24 PM
Since you intend to do quite a bit of touring around Thailand, I suggest you stick to the main cellphone carriers, AIS or DTAC.
By the way, when using DTAC you can also get incoming text messages through gmail chat SMS
+1 that AIS is better then TrueMove. (never tried DTAC) but most people that come to tour and dont need much calling then true is the cheapest...i personally needed good service and True didnt do it for me, and wasnt good on my BB. (though on Friends iphones they had no issues)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 31, 2012, 02:25:27 PM
Yes they're called המרכז המטייל and I'll vouch for them because they're Jewish and to give them business and yes many things they have great deals on... but beware that they also tend to have high prices for certain trips/packages.
So just double check a diff agency before you go to them so you can see the diff.
Is this the chabad in Chiang Mai, or BKK?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 31, 2012, 02:25:51 PM
Is this the chabad in Chiang Mai, or BKK?
BKK
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 31, 2012, 03:02:05 PM
BKK
Anything in Chiang Mai that you recommend?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 31, 2012, 03:05:03 PM
Anything in Chiang Mai that you recommend?
i havent been to CNX but they have this israeli agency in all the main cities....but ou can book the tours with the one in BKK
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on August 01, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
Now this is an aspirational stay...
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/luxury-beachfront-villa-koh-lanta-malee-seaview-part-2/#more-10899

Only $800 during low season... makes me want to return next year with some family members to share it with.

And having this nearby...
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/photo-of-the-week-emerald-cave-koh-muk/#more-10734

WOW!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on August 01, 2012, 05:55:33 PM
Wow...absolutely stunning!!!

Now this is an aspirational stay...
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/luxury-beachfront-villa-koh-lanta-malee-seaview-part-2/#more-10899

Only $800 during low season... makes me want to return next year with some family members to share it with.

And having this nearby...
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/photo-of-the-week-emerald-cave-koh-muk/#more-10734

WOW!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on August 06, 2012, 01:44:48 AM
anyone know of any good well priced tours of the islands by phuket. staying in antara (next to jw marriot) and with a 7 month baby
also will not be making in to chaing mai this trip, and probally never, so is it worth doing the elephant riding here in phuket? any good tours.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on August 07, 2012, 12:51:50 PM
Landed, and am in LM Chiang Rai.

First impressions:
Was very happy with RJ biz product. Seats fully reclined, and no first class. Kosher food was terrible though, and I will send them a letter on this.
The hotel that RJ put us in in AMM was forgettable, but having our own room for the 12 hrs was great.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on August 07, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
Landed, and am in LM Chiang Rai.

First impressions:
Was very happy with RJ biz product. Seats fully reclined, and no first class. Kosher food was terrible though, and I will send them a letter on this.
The hotel that RJ put us in in AMM was forgettable, but having our own room for the 12 hrs was great.
how was the BKK food?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on August 08, 2012, 12:23:27 AM
how was the BKK food?
Didnt order, and it was a good idea b/c we had some baggage issues, and wouldn't have had time to meet with Chabad.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on August 08, 2012, 12:45:17 AM
was just in bkk for five days and though the food from chabad was delicious. besy part was how helpful they were: bc of where we were staying or doing activities we were very far away from the4 resteraunt, so we simply would call and tell them to meet us at where ever we were going to be in an hour. it was truly amazing.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: bigworld on August 11, 2012, 01:30:22 PM
Was just there last week-Had the food ordered to my hotel. Was there on time when they said it would be and was very good. Def. worth the cheap price that it is. Also stopped by there one day. Its an ok setting and they have a free internet cafe type thing upstairs.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on October 14, 2012, 11:42:53 PM
ok, so i'm planning a thailand / asia trip for 2 couples sometime in jan / feb. still working on refining my plan, but here is what i have in mind so far:

- want to use the USair 90K biz rate to north asia award (especially due to their current 100% bonus on sharing miles) and fly NYC – TYO – HKG and back HKG-NYC.while staying couple of days on Tokyo and few days in HKG.

- figured, I’ll use air asia to fly from HKG to Thailand, hop around in Thailand (planning few days in BKK, few in CNX, and few in a nice beachy resort, probably  phuket, krabi or ko samui), and then back to HKG for the return leg  home. Should be fairly inexpensive from the prices I saw on their website, even after factoring in baggage fees.

Was hoping I could get some feedback on the “proposed plan”, and also a recommendation as to what is the best beach / island resort to stay in during the jan / feb time frame.

Thanks
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on October 15, 2012, 04:40:09 PM
For cheap flights within Thailand check out skyscanner
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on October 15, 2012, 07:52:05 PM
thanks will check it out
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on October 16, 2012, 09:31:50 AM
ok, so i'm planning a thailand / asia trip for 2 couples sometime in jan / feb. still working on refining my plan, but here is what i have in mind so far:

- want to use the USair 90K biz rate to north asia award (especially due to their current 100% bonus on sharing miles) and fly NYC – TYO – HKG and back HKG-NYC.while staying couple of days on Tokyo and few days in HKG.

- figured, I’ll use air asia to fly from HKG to Thailand, hop around in Thailand (planning few days in BKK, few in CNX, and few in a nice beachy resort, probably  phuket, krabi or ko samui), and then back to HKG for the return leg  home. Should be fairly inexpensive from the prices I saw on their website, even after factoring in baggage fees.

Was hoping I could get some feedback on the “proposed plan”, and also a recommendation as to what is the best beach / island resort to stay in during the jan / feb time frame.

Thanks

Anybody that was there would not recommend  spending more than one day in BKK, you will be much better off spending the time in CNX. As discussed above the only thing to really see in BKK is the palace, and maybe the floating market.
Good luck with the planninig.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on October 16, 2012, 11:26:29 AM
Anybody that was there would not recommend  spending more than one day in BKK, you will be much better off spending the time in CNX. As discussed above the only thing to really see in BKK is the palace, and maybe the floating market.
Good luck with the planninig.

Thanks, we probably won't stay there more than 2 days. It all depends what time we fly into BKK. Plus we are going with another couple, so i dont want to do too much jumping around.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 16, 2012, 12:46:42 PM
I'd say skip BKK and fill those couple days in SIN.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on October 16, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
I'd say skip BKK and fill those couple days in SIN.
Not even one day in bkk for shopping?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on October 16, 2012, 01:06:05 PM
Not even one day in bkk for shopping?

I wanted to go to Sin but think its a bit out of way. Initially i was contemplating on whether to visit Sin or HK, but decided to go with HK. While i can pull it off, the couple traveling with us doesn't have points, so i really have to consider the actual flight costs.

What i would really like to get your input on is which beach / island location you would recommend the most. We want some relaxing time, but not completely isolated with nothing else to do.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 16, 2012, 01:07:32 PM
Not even one day in bkk for shopping?
Is it any better than CNX's multiple markets?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on October 16, 2012, 01:13:48 PM
Is it any better than CNX's multiple markets?
Couldn't tell u since I've never been there . But prob not. Personally I would go there for a day to.see it if I never saw it.but if limited on time then I guess if u can do same style shopping in CNX then skip BKK
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: bigworld on October 17, 2012, 12:07:38 AM
i had the same question- sin or hkg and based on all the reviews i chose singapore. It seems like there is more to do like sentosa island,marina bay,zoo/night safari and alot of shows and casinos.was there from friday til late monday night
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: bigworld on October 17, 2012, 12:10:11 AM
Regarding bkk-we found one very good market(i think its called potpong or something) evrything else, like mbk and other malls wasnt too gr8. Theres the palace,floating market and some elephant, snake and aligator farms. id say you need two days to get it all. Dont know how it comparres to cnx
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on October 17, 2012, 10:43:19 AM
I'd say skip BKK and fill those couple days in SIN.


Really? From reading the Singapore thread it doesn't seem there is much to do especially if you spend time in CNX ( night safari, etc.)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on October 17, 2012, 10:44:58 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind advice regarding not staying in BKK too long, if at all.

would appreciate some feedback on the best beach resort / island to stay at during jan / feb.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on October 21, 2012, 10:59:29 AM
If arriving to Chiang Mai on tue morning in january (after overnight stop in BKK.) Whats my best choice for another Asian city to go to Thu night through shabbos and a few days into the next week?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on October 21, 2012, 11:19:02 AM
Thanks everyone for the kind advice regarding not staying in BKK too long, if at all.

would appreciate some feedback on the best beach resort / island to stay at during jan / feb.
Using points? How many ppl are going?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: momo on October 21, 2012, 12:02:06 PM
Thanks everyone for the kind advice regarding not staying in BKK too long, if at all.

would appreciate some feedback on the best beach resort / island to stay at during jan / feb.
points? Cash? Price range?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2012, 12:37:34 PM
If arriving to Chiang Mai on tue morning in january (after overnight stop in BKK.) Whats my best choice for another Asian city to go to Thu night through shabbos and a few days into the next week?
HKG?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on October 21, 2012, 12:57:39 PM
HKG?
Is that what would be the best option? Over PEK? (granted it being cold there in Jan)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 21, 2012, 04:16:50 PM
pek is definitely better than hkg, but if you dont have enough time there, its not worth going
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2012, 04:23:55 PM
Is that what would be the best option? Over PEK? (granted it being cold there in Jan)
PEK Jan weather: 34/15.
HKG Jan weather: 74/47.
Take your pick...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on October 21, 2012, 05:07:09 PM
PEK Jan weather: 34/15.
HKG Jan weather: 74/47.
Take your pick...
fair enough.
so I have
Sat night AA JFK-LAX-(1 day)
Sun night AA LAX-HNL-(overnight)
Mon morn UA HNL-NRT-BKK
Wed morn TG BKK-CNX

Wed night LMCM

Thu night CNX-BKK-HKG
Wed morn HKG-JFK

how is that time allocated?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on October 21, 2012, 05:08:10 PM
Using points? How many ppl are going?

4 people, 2 couples, so 2 rooms or like a 2 bdrm suite.
it could be either points or cash.

if cash, we would wanna stay below $150 a night per room (unless its an amazing deal on a private pool vila or somethign similar, in which case would consider to spend more).

was also thinking of the Hyat Regency in Hua Hin, as i could use the hyatt suite upgrades there, but currently it prices out at $200, which seems too much.

Points wise, we have about 80K SPG points, so i know the LM in Khao Lak is an option, but wanted to see what other options are available, as i'm worried we won't have much else to do in khao lak area.

thanks again
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2012, 05:16:05 PM
fair enough.
so I have
Sat night AA JFK-LAX-(1 day)
Sun night AA LAX-HNL-(overnight)
Mon morn UA HNL-NRT-BKK
Wed morn TG BKK-CNX

Wed night LMCM

Thu night CNX-BKK-HKG
Wed morn HKG-JFK

how is that time allocated?
Whoa.  That's getting me tired just looking at that.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on October 21, 2012, 05:21:49 PM
Whoa.  That's getting me tired just looking at that.
lol. JFk-HNL was my free flight from CDG-JFK. From there I get UA all the way to CNX for 37.5 in J.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2012, 05:23:41 PM
Why not just stay in HI? That's too much bouncing for my taste and I have pretty a extreme taste!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on October 21, 2012, 05:32:51 PM
Why not just stay in HI? That's too much bouncing for my taste and I have pretty a extreme taste!
simply because we were just there an want something different. Frankly i havent been to asia yet so I am interested in going. Just not sure what my best route is  :-\.
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on October 21, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
Why not just stay in HI? That's too much bouncing for my taste and I have pretty a extreme taste!
+1 . That's a lot of traveling in such short time. Especially with the time zone changes and all.
But maybe I'm not taking into consideration that your flying first class. That may be much easier since you can sleep
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 21, 2012, 05:34:52 PM
simply because we were just there an want something different. Frankly i havent been to asia yet so I am interested in going. Just not sure what my best route is  :-\.
Then save the HI trip for a future trip (assuming you don't want to do different islands, all 8 offer very unique experiences) and find a better routing IMHO.  That trip doesn't look like fun to me.

If you do insist to stick with it there's also not enough time in CNX IMHO.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 21, 2012, 05:36:48 PM
lol. JFk-HNL was my free flight from CDG-JFK. From there I get UA all the way to CNX for 37.5 in J.
Just make sure it's not domestic J...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Mocha on October 21, 2012, 05:38:10 PM
Then save the HI trip for a future trip (assuming you don't want to do different islands, all 8 offer very unique experiences) and find a better routing IMHO.  That trip doesn't look like fun to me.

If you do insist to stick with it there's also not enough time in CNX IMHO.
Alright we shall reroute!

Just make sure it's not domestic J...
from nrt-bkk its definitely lie-flat
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 21, 2012, 05:57:52 PM
Alright we shall reroute!
from nrt-bkk its definitely lie-flat
I would recommend visiting Tokyo over Hong Kong and probably over Beijing (kosher food and shabbos are both issue though). Either way, TG F from NRT or HND is readily available, and add yourself a fake leg ex BKK in order to get access to their spa.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on October 21, 2012, 10:20:43 PM
I would recommend visiting Tokyo over Hong Kong and probably over Beijing (kosher food and shabbos are both issue though). Either way, TG F from NRT or HND is readily available, and add yourself a fake leg ex BKK in order to get access to their spa.

fake leg?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 22, 2012, 01:12:28 AM
fake leg?
Just a flight ex BKK that you don't end up taking. They have the most draconian entry rules possible.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on October 22, 2012, 10:24:11 AM
tokyo over beijing? how do you figure?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 22, 2012, 11:15:56 AM
tokyo over beijing? how do you figure?
I liked it better...

Problems w avoda zora everywhere though.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
Need advice on upcoming trip:

I am flying into BKK on december 25th, spending the day in Bangkok (picking up some kosher food and checking out the city).
I am then going to drive to Hua Hin where I will be staying at the Hyatt for three days courtesy of UR points. I would love to stay there for my entire trip but there is no availability for dec 28-29 (friday, shabbos) so I am going to have to find a different (non chain non points CHAS VISHOLOM) hotel for shabbos.
I then have a flight sunday morning from BKK-HKG-NRT-ORD-PHL.

1. Is it worth it to rent a car and how hard is it to drive in thailand (british driving)? What rental company is good? Which credit card gives best protection?
2. What is there to see and do in Bangkok besides for kosher chabad house?
3. What is there to do around Hua Hin?  (I would like to do some hiking as well as thailand stuff like elephant rides etc)?
4. Has anybody stayed at the Hyatt Hua Hin and can give me some tips? Do they open more award rooms closer in?
5. Would you recommend staying in Hua Hin or Bangkok for shabbos?
6. What is a good hotel in the $100 range in Hua Hin that would be nice and peaceful for shabbos?
7. If we were to stay in Bangkok for shabbos what hotel do you recommend (preferably an SPG or Hyatt)?

PS. Is there any way to get a free message when we come in tuesday morning on thai first class from FCO? I have heard some people say that I can get a free message and some people say that I will not have access to the lounge.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: bigworld on October 24, 2012, 02:02:56 PM
1) cabs in bkk are amazingly cheap so not worth to rent a car (always do meter or youll get ripped off)
2)Floating market-palace-alligator farm(has tigers and elephants as well)- Elephant trekking-night market
3)We stayed at the Davis-very nice hotel and very worth the price. its about 8 minute walk from Chabad(keep in mind that there are 2 or three chabads inn bkk-the davis is not near the main one,with the resteraunt,but def. does the job with meals and davening.)
We always got food delivered to the hotel and its much faster and easier then going there.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2012, 02:04:22 PM
That's a long way to travel to just go to Hua Hin and BKK :P
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 02:43:36 PM
That's a long way to travel to just go to Hua Hin and BKK :P

The plan includes a day in Rome on the way in and a day in Tokyo on the way out and a visit to my parents in chicago. Gotta do something for winter break. dont be hatin'
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on October 24, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
The plan includes a day in Rome on the way in and a day in Tokyo on the way out and a visit to my parents in chicago. Gotta do something for winter break. dont be hatin'
Seems crazy to me. Pick one region and spend some time
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 02:46:13 PM
Seems crazy to me. Pick one region and spend some time

I have traveller's itch. This might be the last time I can get some vacation time so I'm trying to get a lot done.
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 24, 2012, 02:47:21 PM
I have traveller's itch. This might be the last time I can get some vacation time so I'm trying to get a lot done.
Are you 119 years old?

תפסת מרובה לא תפסת

But I'm all for hectic trips. Just plan properly in advance and you'll be fine IMHO.
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 02:53:30 PM
Are you 119 years old?

תפסת מרובה לא תפסת

But I'm all for hectic trips. Just plan properly in advance and you'll be fine IMHO.

Al Tomar LiChSheEfneh Eshneh, Shema Lo Tipaneh. Grab life by the horns my friends
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2012, 02:56:54 PM
I have traveller's itch. This might be the last time I can get some vacation time so I'm trying to get a lot done.
If this is your last trip don't make it to Hua Hin and BKK.  Nothing special there IMHO.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 05:24:44 PM
If this is your last trip don't make it to Hua Hin and BKK.  Nothing special there IMHO.

Whats your suggestion for a "last trip"?
(been to Kauai, Maui etc)
Not that its my last trip chas visholom. Just last trip for a while. I hope to take many more, but I'm going during peak season and this was the only availability I could find across the pacific.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2012, 05:26:05 PM
In Asia/Pacific I think AKL/BOB/CNX/HKG/MLE/PEK/PVG/SIN/SYD all come to mind before BKK.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on October 24, 2012, 06:01:41 PM
AKL?

Much nicer places in New Zealand...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2012, 06:04:47 PM
AKL?

Much nicer places in New Zealand...
Don't mean AKL specifically of course, I'm referring to the entire country.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 06:08:00 PM
In Asia/Pacific I think AKL/BOB/CNX/HKG/MLE/PEK/PVG/SIN/SYD all come to mind before BKK.

Australia: woke up a few weeks ago. No availability left on AA or UA miles
China: Cold in the winter
Singapore: considered it but looking for warmer weather
Male: couldnt find two seats (gotta take the wife with me!)

All those places sound awesome. Just not for a winter time trip with little advance planning   :'(
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2012, 06:15:32 PM
Sounds more like you should hire an award ticket finding service.
Or ask/offer a reward to a DDF'er.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 06:27:33 PM
Sounds more like you should hire an award ticket finding service.
Or ask/offer a reward to a DDF'er.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986

+1. Did just that. Could not find me tickets to Male or any other exotic locales. Gary is not all that. One poshite yid with an expertflyer account is just as good. Flying during winter break is always a losing proposition. The woes of graduate school.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on October 24, 2012, 06:30:10 PM
+1. Did just that. Could not find me tickets to Male or any other exotic locales. Gary is not all that. One poshite yid with an expertflyer account is just as good. Flying during winter break is always a losing proposition. The woes of graduate school.
Lol, now I'm curious to see what Gary can't do.  Post (again?) in the thread linked to above with all variables.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 24, 2012, 06:42:41 PM
Lol, now I'm curious to see what Gary can't do.  Post (again?) in the thread linked to above with all variables.

It would be for the first time and I don't want to post in the thread linked above because im already booked to bkk and I dont want people to unnecessarily make an effort to find me tickets when i'm already stuck with what I got (I don't have the status to make those pesky change fees go away, yes that is jealousy)
2 Tiks dec 23-30 male, papeete or similar exotic warm island locale in asia/pacific first class on premium product with lie flat using UA miles one way and AA the other (tot: 140k UA, 137.5K AA) 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on October 25, 2012, 11:23:05 PM
Need advice on upcoming trip:

I am flying into BKK on december 25th, spending the day in Bangkok (picking up some kosher food and checking out the city).
I am then going to drive to Hua Hin where I will be staying at the Hyatt for three days courtesy of UR points. I would love to stay there for my entire trip but there is no availability for dec 28-29 (friday, shabbos) so I am going to have to find a different (non chain non points CHAS VISHOLOM) hotel for shabbos.
I then have a flight sunday morning from BKK-HKG-NRT-ORD-PHL.

1. Is it worth it to rent a car and how hard is it to drive in thailand (british driving)? What rental company is good? Which credit card gives best protection?
2. What is there to see and do in Bangkok besides for kosher chabad house?
3.  (I would like to do some hiking as well as thailand stuff like elephant rides etc)?
4.
5. Would you recommend staying in Hua Hin or Bangkok for shabbos?
6.
7. If we were to stay in Bangkok for shabbos what hotel do you recommend (preferably an SPG or Hyatt)?

PS. Is there any way to get a free message when we come in tuesday morning on thai first class from FCO? I have heard some people say that I can get a free message and some people say that I will not have access to the lounge.

Thanks!

1. never rent a car in bangkok. its not worth it. 1- you wont find parking. 2- very dangerous driving there - 3 -cabs are easier, cheaper, and all over the place.  never do a set rate, always the meter, if not take the next taxi or the next until u get one. however cheap you think it is itll always be WAY cheaper on the meter. try learning how to say your destination in Thai, otherwise he'll try to rip u off. (if you need help with some directions and names/numbers in thai, just ask and i can help you out.

2. Besides Chabad, there are plenty of marketplaces, the Palace, the floating Market, theres kao sahn rd. (next to chabad) -

3. about 2 hours from bangkok is Kanchanaburi. there you can see the tiger temple (its not a temple) and elephant riding, bamboo rafting, cool water falls, safari, and some other cool stuff they have. - in a diff direction ( i think) about 1.5 hours is zip lining - really cool place, check out online flight of the gibbon.  and choose bangkok. they have another one in CNX which is better.

5. ive never been to Hua Hin but im guessing Bangkok would be better, since you can have a normal shabbos there (if thats what your looking for) with free meals at Chabad (and a donation if u can :) ) and very nice shabbos atmosphere there.

7. Never stayed at a hotel there, but if you stay in the sukhumvit area theres a shul (chabad) on soi 22 and shabbos they have meals there. As well as in the Shangri-La hotel theres a minyan and meals. Otherwise you can order from the main Chabad house food before shabbos or in general and theres a THB150 fee for delivery  ($4.70)

PS. if you dont manage to get a free massage, then when u get into BKK itll be only THB 100 ($3.25) for a half hour (practically free)

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on October 28, 2012, 11:13:42 PM
A bit late but renting a car is a huge mistake in BKK.

I'd sooner rent a bus in Manhattan...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 29, 2012, 12:55:12 PM
A bit late but renting a car is a huge mistake in BKK.

I'd sooner rent a bus in Manhattan...

Thank you so much Cbs for your extensive instructions and advice. Finally somebody willing to address my actual questions instead of commenting on my vacation choices.
Platinum: I would only be in BKK for a few hours. The real reason to rent a car would be to drive down to Hua Hin and then to have that car throughout my stay in Hua Hin so that I can drive around and check out the countryside. Whats it like driving on the country roads in thailand is more my question than anything else.
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on October 29, 2012, 01:01:19 PM
Thank you so much Cbs for your extensive instructions and advice. Finally somebody willing to address my actual questions instead of commenting on my vacation choices.
Platinum: I would only be in BKK for a few hours. The real reason to rent a car would be to drive down to Hua Hin and then to have that car throughout my stay in Hua Hin so that I can drive around and check out the countryside. Whats it like driving on the country roads in thailand is more my question than anything else.
Still not worth it. It's probably cheaper for you to go into town (near chabad), and find a driver that will take you around in hua hin for the day. That's obviously only if ur going for one day there. You could probably find for 2000 baht.. Like $65.

But otherwise I've driven a car in country side roads there. A place called Suphanburi, and it was fine. It's empty roads. I actually learned shift stick there.
(remember it's left side driving)
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on October 29, 2012, 02:08:48 PM
Still not worth it. It's probably cheaper for you to go into town (near chabad), and find a driver that will take you around in hua hin for the day. That's obviously only if ur going for one day there. You could probably find for 2000 baht.. Like $65.

But otherwise I've driven a car in country side roads there. A place called Suphanburi, and it was fine. It's empty roads. I actually learned shift stick there.
(remember it's left side driving)

I'm actually going to be in hua hin for at least 3 days. Would it be worth it to hire a driver while we are in BKK for the first day to take us around BKK and then drive us to Hua Hin where we can rent a car there?
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on October 30, 2012, 07:05:26 PM
I'm actually going to be in hua hin for at least 3 days. Would it be worth it to hire a driver while we are in BKK for the first day to take us around BKK and then drive us to Hua Hin where we can rent a car there?
for BKK theres taxis all over it may be more expensive to hire someone. but try ur luck for hua hin
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on November 04, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
Hi, I'm planning a trip to Chaing Mai in late December and I have several questions:


1) If I have the United Club card can I access *A lounges operated by other airlines?


2) Does anyone have a hotel at BKK they can personally recommend for a overnight stay?


3) How strict is Thai immigration about food being brought in from the US? I would like to bring food for Shabbos, including meat.


4) If I want to make my own Shabbos meals is there a place in Chaing Mai I can buy food from?


Thanks
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on November 06, 2012, 04:51:12 PM
BUMP
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on November 06, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
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1) If I have the United Club card can I access *A lounges operated by other airlines?

If you have a Boarding pass for travel on a Star Alliance flight departing from the airport in which the lounge is located you could access the lounge.
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/airport/lounge/access.aspx
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on November 06, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
If you have a Boarding pass for travel on a Star Alliance flight departing from the airport in which the lounge is located you could access the lounge.
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/airport/lounge/access.aspx


Thanks
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 08, 2012, 09:50:44 PM
OK, just read the first 18 or so pages of this thread.

What do you guys think about going to CNX in May? I read that it's the beginning of the monsoon season there.

...back to reading.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 08, 2012, 10:19:57 PM
Was reading the comments to Dan's TR and found something that made me chuckle:

Quote
Bringer Says:
February 15th, 2011 at 12:34 am

If you wanted to get multiple cards from Chase, would you advise applying for 2 on the same day?

Quote
Dan Says:

February 15th, 2011 at 10:32 am

@Bringer:
I’ve never tried 2 chase cards in 1 day.

muahahah

P.S. now someone answer my above question :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
LOL!  And now I have 13 Chase cards (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7280.msg334729#msg334729) compared to 6 last May. (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7280.0)

How easy it is to forget that the Chase UR program is just a baby.  Chase really came out of nowhere to slay AMEX in the past 18 months with their slew of UR cards and partners.  They've done an incredible job and they know it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 08, 2012, 10:52:08 PM
Yep, interviewed for a job with a bank that shall remain nameless (:) ) and let's just say they all are struggling to keep pace with Chase.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 08, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
The most shocking part is that AMEX is just standing by and watching MR become pathetic while Chase offers more lucrative signup bonuses.
I thought for sure within a year of losing CO they would have added AA or US.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 08, 2012, 11:19:13 PM
Halevai.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on November 09, 2012, 01:56:03 AM
OK, just read the first 18 or so pages of this thread.

What do you guys think about going to CNX in May? I read that it's the beginning of the monsoon season there.

...back to reading.
not the best idea, not the best season..it gets pretty bad in june - beg, of may be OK
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on November 09, 2012, 06:49:36 AM
The most shocking part is that AMEX is just standing by and watching MR become pathetic while Chase offers more lucrative signup bonuses.
I thought for sure within a year of losing CO they would have added AA or US.
US is weird, they are so desperate to sell their miles, why not just sell 'em to amex.

Hopefully they'll just make the transfer rate to BA a permanent 1:1.5
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 09, 2012, 08:54:10 AM
not the best idea, not the best season..it gets pretty bad in june - beg, of may be OK

If I go, it'd be the beginning of may. Don't think I can swing another time. Is it worth the risk?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on November 09, 2012, 11:35:11 AM
If I go, it'd be the beginning of may. Don't think I can swing another time. Is it worth the risk?
I was reading earlier comments about New Zealand, and not wanting to go in the fall. If I were you I wouid still consider it. I went in the winter and it was not to bad and well worth the savings on hotels as well as smaller crowds which can make a big difference.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 09, 2012, 12:12:36 PM
I was reading earlier comments about New Zealand, and not wanting to go in the fall. If I were you I wouid still consider it. I went in the winter and it was not to bad and well worth the savings on hotels as well as smaller crowds which can make a big difference.

That's partly what I'm thinking as it's only when the monsoon season begins -- perhaps with global warming and what not it wont start till June :P
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AsherO on November 09, 2012, 12:28:12 PM
The most shocking part is that AMEX is just standing by and watching MR become pathetic while Chase offers more lucrative signup bonuses.

+1, Chase it taking their cake hands down.

I thought for sure within a year of losing CO they would have added AA or US.

Tricky, as AA probably has US exclusivity with Citi, even Diners transfers were killed. US isn't as good a partner and they're already dealing with Barclays (though I'm sure Amex can take on Barclays any day).
Title: Which island/beach area in November?
Post by: mguy on November 14, 2012, 04:15:20 PM
Which southern Thailand area has good weather in the end of November? Koh Samui, Phuket, other? This is for a potential extra stop on a trip to CNX.

Also, aside from the weather, is there is one in particular that would offer some interesting/adventurous activities (vs just chilling on a beach)? E.g. - Looks like I can do a private speedboat tour out of Phuket to explore the islands, snorkel, kayak, etc.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Which island/beach area in November?
Post by: Cbs on November 19, 2012, 03:53:37 AM
Which southern Thailand area has good weather in the end of November? Koh Samui, Phuket, other? This is for a potential extra stop on a trip to CNX.

Also, aside from the weather, is there is one in particular that would offer some interesting/adventurous activities (vs just chilling on a beach)? E.g. - Looks like I can do a private speedboat tour out of Phuket to explore the islands, snorkel, kayak, etc.

Thanks!
they both have nice weather.
not much activitys going on besides water there. and you can take water tour boats in samui and phuket around the islands to go snorkeling kayak etc...i think its a matter of opinion to choose. some say phuket islands and some say samui islands. though samui itself is prob nice then phuket
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 01:30:29 PM
Anyone know anything about diving in thailand?

Can I do that anywhere near CNX, or would I have to take another flight?

(P.S. I've reached out to ChikkyMonkey--who is apparently Mr. CNX, but haven't heard back. Anyone know him personally?)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on November 19, 2012, 01:40:52 PM
Anyone know anything about diving in thailand?

Can I do that anywhere near CNX, or would I have to take another flight?

(P.S. I've reached out to ChikkyMonkey--who is apparently Mr. CNX, but haven't heard back. Anyone know him personally?)
CNX is not next to water.
You'd prob have to take another flight. Go to skyscanner for cheap flights
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
CNX is not next to water.
You'd prob have to take another flight. Go to skyscanner for cheap flights

Durn. Where would you recommend?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 02:00:05 PM
Durn. Where would you recommend?
Sounds to me like you want CNS, not CNX.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 02:21:27 PM
Sounds to me like you want CNS, not CNX.

Would that I could, big guy. Not enough time to travel all the way there. But it's on the list of buckets.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Not enough time to travel all the way there.
Can't swing a 2 week trip?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
Can't swing a 2 week trip?

It'd be really tough this time around. Besides, I wouldn't get to play with the tigers, or get $10 massages, or go elephant riding, or see the markets, or...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 02:42:27 PM
It'd be really tough this time around. Besides, I wouldn't get to play with the tigers, or get $10 massages, or go elephant riding, or see the markets, or...

Truth is, going to SIN and going to CNS isn't that big of a difference, at least distance wise. Should I be considering either for a 10 day trip?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 02:43:13 PM
It'd be really tough this time around. Besides, I wouldn't get to play with the tigers, or get $10 massages, or go elephant riding, or see the markets, or...
You don't want the $10 massages :P
But you would get to dive/snorkel the GBR, stay in the awesome PH SYD and PH MEL, eat at Katzy's instead of Chabad, see Bondi Beach, drive the Great Ocean Road and see the Grampians, watch penguins march in from the sea, etc.

You can do all that (and more ;D ) with 2 nights in CNS, 3 nights in SYD, and 4 nights in MEL.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on November 19, 2012, 02:46:55 PM
You don't want the $10 massages :P
thats about 3 massages in thailand!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 19, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
eat at Katzy's instead of Chabad
i dont know about that...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
i dont know about that...
You prefer Chabad in Thailand to Katzy's?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 19, 2012, 04:46:54 PM
Durn. Where would you recommend?
I flew Nok and Thai and was happy with each.
But since I booked them close in, the prices weren't too cheap.
Nok especially seemed to have a lot of specials, but they didn't help me.

Also, if you're flying with miles on the *A, see if you can add on the leg from BKK to the north.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 19, 2012, 05:19:18 PM
You prefer Chabad in Thailand to Katzy's?
possibly... i was not a fan of katzys
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 05:22:55 PM
Katzy's:
(http://www.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/IMG_0986a.jpg)

Chabad HKT:
(http://www.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/IMG_0159a.jpg)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 05:27:37 PM
I flew Nok and Thai and was happy with each.
But since I booked them close in, the prices weren't too cheap.
Nok especially seemed to have a lot of specials, but they didn't help me.

Also, if you're flying with miles on the *A, see if you can add on the leg from BKK to the north.

I'm confused. Are you responding to me? I was asking where in Thaliand he'd recommend for diving...



Haha, if that ain't bias :P
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on November 19, 2012, 06:59:19 PM
You don't want the $10 massages :P
But you would get to dive/snorkel the GBR, stay in the awesome PH SYD and PH MEL, eat at Katzy's instead of Chabad, see Bondi Beach, drive the Great Ocean Road and see the Grampians, watch penguins march in from the sea, etc.

You can do all that (and more ;D ) with 2 nights in CNS, 3 nights in SYD, and 4 nights in MEL.

Man, that does sound tempting... I checked the weather in CNS in May and it looks wonderful... I always thought that was wintertime in AUS.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on November 19, 2012, 08:08:03 PM
Man, that does sound tempting... I checked the weather in CNS in May and it looks wonderful... I always thought that was wintertime in AUS.
Winter is the best time to go to CNS. Otherwise it is hot and humid along with dangerous box jellyfish in the water. I was there in dead winter and had the most amazing weather.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
Winter is the best time to go to CNS. Otherwise it is hot and humid along with dangerous box jellyfish in the water. I was there in dead winter and had the most amazing weather.
+100
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 19, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
Haha, if that ain't bias :P
Oh it is, but I can't believe someone would pick the pretty utilitarian food from Chabad over Katzy's unless it's solely based on the heavily subsidized chabad pricing so that Israelis will eat kosher.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on November 19, 2012, 11:31:21 PM
I'm confused. Are you responding to me? I was asking where in Thaliand he'd recommend for diving...
My bad. Thought you were asking about transportation.
I gotta stop posting after 10 pm.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on November 20, 2012, 02:15:54 AM
Winter is the best time to go to CNS. Otherwise it is hot and humid along with dangerous box jellyfish in the water. I was there in dead winter and had the most amazing weather.
We were there in July and the waters were too choppy to go out to the reef.  We had planned to go on our last day there (out of 2.5) so never got to see it :-(
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on November 20, 2012, 03:13:14 AM
Oh it is, but I can't believe someone would pick the pretty utilitarian food from Chabad over Katzy's unless it's solely based on the heavily subsidized chabad pricing so that Israelis will eat kosher.
no, that wasnt my reason, but rather the food just wasnt good, while the chabad food, although much simpler, actually tasted fine
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on November 20, 2012, 08:53:15 AM
We were there in July and the waters were too choppy to go out to the reef.  We had planned to go on our last day there (out of 2.5) so never got to see it :-(
All the way to cns and didn't get to the gbr? Oy.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on November 20, 2012, 09:06:30 AM
We were there in July and the waters were too choppy to go out to the reef.  We had planned to go on our last day there (out of 2.5) so never got to see it :-(
Most people would not go on their last day there because it is unsafe to fly a short while after scuba diving, as it is a risk to get the bends. I was there in August and my wife who is not a strong swimmer had no trouble snorkeling for hours on the water as it was so smooth and calm.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on November 20, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
All the way to cns and didn't get to the gbr? Oy.
Yup, but my in-laws live in Australia, so hopefully we'll make it out there again one day.

Most people would not go on their last day there because it is unsafe to fly a short while after scuba diving, as it is a risk to get the bends. I was there in August and my wife who is not a strong swimmer had no trouble snorkeling for hours on the water as it was so smooth and calm.
I was pregnant so couldn't go anyway, but would have liked to see what i could from a boat, at least.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 20, 2012, 11:33:32 AM
no, that wasnt my reason, but rather the food just wasnt good, while the chabad food, although much simpler, actually tasted fine
After weeks of OK food in CNX, HKT, MEL, DPO, and HBA those ribs and fries at Katzy's were downright divine.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: gunit770 on November 25, 2012, 10:46:16 PM
Does anybody have any experience buying a cheap suit in bangkok? I'm looking to buy a cheap custom made suit and wanted to know if anybody can recommend any tailors and if they ship to america? (I will only be there for one day so I can only do one fitting and will need them to ship the suit to america).
Thanks!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on November 27, 2012, 03:47:21 AM
Does anybody have any experience buying a cheap suit in bangkok? I'm looking to buy a cheap custom made suit and wanted to know if anybody can recommend any tailors and if they ship to america? (I will only be there for one day so I can only do one fitting and will need them to ship the suit to america).
Thanks!
Yes.Go to Amit Fashon (http://www.amitfashion.co.th/) which is located on Kao Sahn Rd. (one street behind Chabad) entrance  under the D&D inn in the alley. Dont get convinced by all the people in the streets asking you to make a "kalifa" (חליפה)!
tell him you know Rabbi Nechemia from Chabad and ask him for a nice discount. and u can bargain him down. i bought a nice suit for $135 and good quality shirts for $23 each (took a long process - few weeks-  the bargaining ) in general those shirts cost like $35-$40.

If im not mistaken they will ship it to u for a charge. ask them
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 27, 2012, 09:55:25 AM
Anyone ever made a Kapota in Thailand on the cheap?
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on November 30, 2012, 04:54:57 AM
Anyone ever made a Kapota in Thailand on the cheap?
I'd imagine that at this tailor I mentioned above it wouldn't be so expensive. I'm sure the shliach does though. If u want a price range let me know and I can prob find one out for you
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: yas on December 08, 2012, 11:35:33 PM
Anyone ever made a Kapota in Thailand on the cheap?
The Shliach In Chiang Mai told me he made one, but was not thrilled by the way it came out.
I dont really know any more details.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on December 25, 2012, 06:10:18 AM
Great post comparing Starwood properties in Thailand.
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/verygoodpoints/2012/12/23/a-comparison-of-starwood%E2%80%99s-thailand-hotels/

Also, I need your opinion. We enjoyed our stay so much in August to the north, that we're considering returning in the January'ish time in 2014 if I can book a free leg onto my upcoming award flight. We'd bring our three kids, all 6 and under at the time.

What do you recommend? Phuket despite its being a tourist center? A quieter beach place? We need a place that the kids will enjoy but I'd prefer to not return to Chiang Mai since there is no beach there.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 06, 2013, 04:35:30 AM

What do you guys think about going to CNX in May? I read that it's the beginning of the monsoon season there.


May should be fine... It's tropical weather and even a little rain is not a problem, always warm and all activities can be done in rain.

I've personally visited Chiang Mai once in the dry season (feb) and 3 times in the rainy season (Twice in June and once in August) and was very happy I chose to go.

You just need to have a good attitude in case you get a little rain and take things easy.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 06, 2013, 04:37:31 AM

What do you recommend? Phuket despite its being a tourist center? A quieter beach place? We need a place that the kids will enjoy but I'd prefer to not return to Chiang Mai since there is no beach there.

Jan is high season, so you'll have great weather and higher prices..

Definitely Phuket is the place to go if you are with kids, there is a great JW Marriott in Phuket that I can highly recommend. Water slides, kids play area, over all great property. Also might be worth driving a little over an hour from Phuket airport to go to Khao Lak, Le Meridien there is a great option for kids
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 06, 2013, 04:44:31 AM
Anyone know anything about diving in thailand?

Can I do that anywhere near CNX, or would I have to take another flight?

(P.S. I've reached out to ChikkyMonkey--who is apparently Mr. CNX, but haven't heard back. Anyone know him personally?)

Sorry for late response. Some great diving options, nothing in the north though, you'll need a flight. if it's May your best bet is Ko Tao (2 hour boat ride from Samui) or you can do a one day diving trip from Samui to Ang Thong or somewhere near there.. . You can actually get certified for about $300 for open water there... Or do a discover diving for about $60-100 I believe
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 06, 2013, 04:47:54 AM
Jan is high season, so you'll have great weather and higher prices..

Definitely Phuket is the place to go if you are with kids, there is a great JW Marriott in Phuket that I can highly recommend. Water slides, kids play area, over all great property. Also might be worth driving a little over an hour from Phuket airport to go to Khao Lak, Le Meridien there is a great option for kids
Thanks for bringing up the kids issue.
What should I do about booking for them? Just fill out one kid in the reservation and then show up with all 3 (age 6,4,1) and tell them I don't need extra bedding?
I don't want to have to book 2 rooms or pay extra.

Also, if I do Koh Samui, how do you recommend going from there to Phuket, or vice versa? The only direct flight is expensive.
I was told on FT that it's possible to do a ferry and then a cab ride or s/t of the sort to go from Samui to Phuket. Is there anywhere to stop along the way for a night or two which you recommend?

Finally, Khao Lak or Krabi if I want to escape Phuket for a few days?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 06, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
May should be fine... It's tropical weather and even a little rain is not a problem, always warm and all activities can be done in rain.

I've personally visited Chiang Mai once in the dry season (feb) and 3 times in the rainy season (Twice in June and once in August) and was very happy I chose to go.

You just need to have a good attitude in case you get a little rain and take things easy.

Great, this is very promising.

During the rainy season, when it rains, is it the whole day, or is for like 5-10 minutes?

Sorry for late response. Some great diving options, nothing in the north though, you'll need a flight. if it's May your best bet is Ko Tao (2 hour boat ride from Samui) or you can do a one day diving trip from Samui to Ang Thong or somewhere near there.. . You can actually get certified for about $300 for open water there... Or do a discover diving for about $60-100 I believe

My wife and I are both already open-water certified, so we're just looking for a great place to do some diving.

I'll definitely check out the options above. Thanks.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on January 07, 2013, 12:28:30 AM
I have a reservation (3/11-3/13) in Khoa Lak, Le Meridien, I reserved a room with c&p I emailed to find out what it takes to get an upgrade to a pool villa, they responded:
“Warm Greeting from Le Meridien Khao Lak Beach & Spa Resort
 
Thank you for your email and interest on Le Meridien Khao Lak Beach & Spa Resort.
Regarding your enquiry below, we are pleased to inform you that Villa in not entitled for SPG upgrade however we have instant award, 1 point is $75. We are pleased to offer additional for upgrade to Pool Villa at THB 13,000. Therefore points is required is at 32,500 points/night.”


I’m platinum and I have suite upgrades, should I wait until 5 days before and hope for an upgrade to a suite and then upgrade to a pool villa? Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 07, 2013, 12:35:32 AM
Villas are not in the upgrade pool.
However I paid a whole lot less points than that for our villa. I'd try again.
Beware there are tons of wildlife/creatures/bugs on this property due to the location.  Moreso than anywhere else.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 07, 2013, 04:27:17 PM
Thanks for bringing up the kids issue.
What should I do about booking for them? Just fill out one kid in the reservation and then show up with all 3 (age 6,4,1) and tell them I don't need extra bedding?
I don't want to have to book 2 rooms or pay extra.

Finally, Khao Lak or Krabi if I want to escape Phuket for a few days?
First of all, bump

Secondly, I'm being told that Samui w/ kids isn't a great option since the Conrad there has the open infinity pools and a lot of hills.
So, any advice if we wanted to travel to a second country for a few days? Any cheap routes, either using Avios (or a different currency) or cash?
Let me add in that it would be nice if s/t departed from Phuket so I can do that and then fly back to BKK.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 07, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
First of all, bump

Secondly, I'm being told that Samui w/ kids isn't a great option since the Conrad there has the open infinity pools and a lot of hills.
So, any advice if we wanted to travel to a second country for a few days? Any cheap routes, either using Avios (or a different currency) or cash?
Let me add in that it would be nice if s/t departed from Phuket so I can do that and then fly back to BKK.


Khao Lak vs. Krabi really depends on the resort you're looking at... if you're considering LMKL for kids it's tops, great kids play are, great kids pool, great playground in the water for really young ones, great babysitters, you just can't go wrong.

I didn't have problems with bugs, could be summer season (June) isn't as bad. Obviously in the tropics you'll always see some, but no problem at all for us.

As far as another country, in the surrounding areas, you won't really find anything that would interest the kids more than Chiang Mai or the islands in Thailand. Cambodia is great, but not much for kids.. Vietnam also nice but nothing special kids wise..  depending on what you've seen up north I might recommend going back and dividing the trip between beach and north.. for kids the CM zoo is very interesting, they have some nice pandas, bus that takes you around.. Bangkok also has a great aquarium kids would love...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 07, 2013, 05:14:03 PM

Khao Lak vs. Krabi really depends on the resort you're looking at... if you're considering LMKL for kids it's tops, great kids play are, great kids pool, great playground in the water for really young ones, great babysitters, you just can't go wrong.

I didn't have problems with bugs, could be summer season (June) isn't as bad. Obviously in the tropics you'll always see some, but no problem at all for us.

As far as another country, in the surrounding areas, you won't really find anything that would interest the kids more than Chiang Mai or the islands in Thailand. Cambodia is great, but not much for kids.. Vietnam also nice but nothing special kids wise..  depending on what you've seen up north I might recommend going back and dividing the trip between beach and north.. for kids the CM zoo is very interesting, they have some nice pandas, bus that takes you around.. Bangkok also has a great aquarium kids would love...
Thanks for the great advice!
It would be next December.
Which islands do you recommend for ease of access, and potential activities?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 12:19:15 AM
Need help with itenerary going for 8 days landing on Tuesday night in hong kong
Main things I want to do
1) hong kong
2) Beijing ( great wall)
3)chaing Mai 2 days min
4)either bkk or Singapore or beach resort
 Also sounds like Beijing and cnx are great places for shabbos, hong kong doesn't work for shabbos since I'm arriving and leaving from there.
Any advice greatly appreciate.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 08, 2013, 12:26:19 AM
Need help with itenerary going for 8 days landing on Tuesday night in hong kong
Main things I want to do
1) hong kong
2) Beijing ( great wall)
3)chaing Mai 2 days min
4)either bkk or Singapore or beach resort
 Also sounds like Beijing and cnx are great places for shabbos, hong kong doesn't work for shabbos since I'm arriving and leaving from there.
Any advice greatly appreciate.
if ur looking for a shabbos experience then BKK would be ur choice over CNX probably

and with option #4 they are all diff style places so it depends what u like.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 12:38:47 AM
if ur looking for a shabbos experience then BKK would be ur choice over CNX probably

and with option #4 they are all diff style places so it depends what u like.
Itenerary looks like this something
1) honk kong Tuesday night till Wednesday night or thursday morning
2) bejing till Friday morning
3) Friday and shabbos undecided
4)cnx Sunday till Monday night or tuesday morning
5)Tuesday afternoon till Wednesday flight, macau

Is it too much and won't enjoy from what I'm reading hong kong is 1 day , Beijing is 1 day
Cnx could do in one day but going to take it slow for 2 days ?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 08, 2013, 12:46:34 AM
Itenerary looks like this something
1) honk kong Tuesday night till Wednesday night or thursday morning
2) bejing till Friday morning
3) Friday and shabbos undecided
4)cnx Sunday till Monday night or tuesday morning
5)Tuesday afternoon till Wednesday flight, macau

Is it too much and won't enjoy from what I'm reading hong kong is 1 day , Beijing is 1 day
Cnx could do in one day but going to take it slow for 2 days ?
i would say go shabbos to BKK and spend shabbos at chabad there. great experience
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 12:47:34 AM
We had a blast in HKG and CNX for shabbos.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 08, 2013, 12:48:51 AM
We had a blast in HKG and CNX for shabbos.
im sure but he said he didnt want HKG and CNX he said hell be there 2 days so y not catch in a diff city which is not so exciting for in middle of the week.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 08, 2013, 12:49:22 AM
BKK chabad is backpackers, HKG chabad/ Meoded is mostly business men. Up to you which u prefer.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 12:49:48 AM
Because CNX has a great Sat night and Sun night market.
HKG has a great Sunday dinner at the JCC.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 12:50:15 AM
BKK chabad is backpackers, HKG chabad/ Meoded is mostly business men. Up to you which u prefer.
Yup, vastly different experiences.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 08, 2013, 12:54:31 AM
Because CNX has a great Sat night and Sun night market.
HKG has a great Sunday dinner at the JCC.
well hes forsure not going to stay till sunday night. since hes landing there and leaving from there. so now that thats out maybe he should go to CNX for shabbos stay till monday morning and then hit up an island in thailand or just go see bkk for a day
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 12:57:04 AM
Because CNX has a great Sat night and Sun night market.
HKG has a great Sunday dinner at the JCC.
That's why I'm planning on going to cnx on Sunday for the Sunday night market.
Reading from the forums maybey Singapore ,or someone once stayed in a villa ?
Just don't want to much traveling plus was thinking bejing but no direct flights to cnx .
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 12:58:26 AM
well hes forsure not going to stay till sunday night. since hes landing there and leaving from there. so now that thats out maybe he should go to CNX for shabbos stay till monday morning and then hit up an island in thailand or just go see bkk for a day
Arriving and leaving from hong kong
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 01:01:47 AM
It sounds like bkk is a total waste of time from the first 30 pages that I read.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 08, 2013, 01:10:36 AM
It sounds like bkk is a total waste of time from the first 30 pages that I read.
true but all im saying is that if ur looking for a nice shabbos and anyways u cant do much on shabbos so just spend it in BKK. but ur call
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 01:11:35 AM
true but all im saying is that if ur looking for a nice shabbos and anyways u cant do much on shabbos so just spend it in BKK. but ur call
I would just do CNX and go to both the Sat night and Sun night markets (diff locations and ware) and stay at the awesome LM CNX with SPG.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 01:16:23 AM
The problem is there is no direct flights from Pek to cnx. Wanted to go see the great wall once I'm going around to the far east.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 08, 2013, 02:52:29 AM
i would say go shabbos to BKK and spend shabbos at chabad there. great experience
Any luck of attending if you have a child to carry? I assume there is no eruv.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 08, 2013, 03:49:18 AM
Any luck of attending if you have a child to carry? I assume there is no eruv.
Shangri La Kowloon is next door to R Meoded's shul.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 08, 2013, 03:51:48 AM
Shangri La Kowloon is next door to R Meoded's shul.
And the eruv issue?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 08, 2013, 03:55:09 AM
Any luck of attending if you have a child to carry? I assume there is no eruv.
You can get a goi to push the stroller. Usually someone from chabad may help or pay someone at the hotel $2 to :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 08, 2013, 04:10:49 AM
You can get a goi to push the stroller. Usually someone from chabad may help or pay someone at the hotel $2 to :)
אמירה לעכו"ם?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 08, 2013, 04:14:57 AM
אמירה לעכו"ם?
arrange it before shabbos obviously
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 08, 2013, 09:15:49 AM
depends how old the child is
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 08, 2013, 09:41:00 AM
depends how old the child is
1.5
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 08, 2013, 11:43:26 AM
Need help with itenerary going for 8 days landing on Tuesday night in hong kong
Main things I want to do
1) hong kong
2) Beijing ( great wall)
3)chaing Mai 2 days min
4)either bkk or Singapore or beach resort
 Also sounds like Beijing and cnx are great places for shabbos, hong kong doesn't work for shabbos since I'm arriving and leaving from there.
Any advice greatly appreciate.

I would recommend doing shabbos in CNX, great nice relaxed atmosphere perfect for shabbos.. HK shabbos dont care for.

Spent morning to night in Beijing this past summer, was more than enough, other than great wall, didn't care for much else...

While BKK shabbos at chabad is nice, don't care for the city on shabbos..

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 11:45:12 AM
HK shabbos dont care for.
I though shabbos with R' Avtzon was excellent.  Incredible food and great company and conversation.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 12:04:12 PM
If I do go to bkk for shabbos don't think ill be able to make the Saturday night market in cnx since the first flight out of bkk on motza shabbos is 9:15 getting me into cnx at 10:30, does anybody know till what time the night market runs till?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 12:46:06 PM
Doesn't make sense to go to BKK to me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 01:05:54 PM
Doesn't make sense to go to BKK to me.
Thought like that also , problem is there is no direct flight from pek to cnx the fastest way is with a stop in bkk for 1:30 hours gets me in to cnx at 2:05 for shabbos.
since i was using star alliance to get from pek to cnx was thinking of staying for shabbos in bkk and either leave bkk, motza or sun morning.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
gets me in to cnx at 2:05 for shabbos.
And when is shabbos?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 01:23:27 PM
And when is shabbos?
6:25 is sunset
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 08, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
If I do go to bkk for shabbos don't think ill be able to make the Saturday night market in cnx since the first flight out of bkk on motza shabbos is 9:15 getting me into cnx at 10:30, does anybody know till what time the night market runs till?


Sat. Night market closes at 10.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 08, 2013, 01:50:42 PM
For bkk there are three diff chabad places for Shab so make sure you know which one you want to go to. I actually loved Shab is shangri la Kowloon the doorman actually welcomed me in Hebrew and already knew we needed help pushing baby to next door. Never went to chaing Mai but was very happy for 5 days in bkk, or more like my wife was very happy with all the shopping there
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 08, 2013, 01:54:56 PM
I actually loved Shab is shangri la Kowloon the doorman actually welcomed me in Hebrew and already knew we needed help pushing baby to next door.

Had a lotta fun there as well.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 02:17:13 PM
6:25 is sunset
CNX is only 10 minutes ($4 by taxi) from the LM. Should be perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 08, 2013, 04:11:17 PM
CNX is only 10 minutes ($4 by taxi) from the LM. Should be perfectly fine.

+1
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 08, 2013, 04:13:23 PM
For bkk there are three diff chabad places for Shab so make sure you know which one you want to go to. I actually loved Shab is shangri la Kowloon the doorman actually welcomed me in Hebrew and already knew we needed help pushing baby to next door. Never went to chaing Mai but was very happy for 5 days in bkk, or more like my wife was very happy with all the shopping there
And I loved that shabbos too :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 08, 2013, 05:21:28 PM
And I loved that shabbos too :)
you didnt go to kehilat zion?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 08, 2013, 05:48:53 PM
Is the Saturday night market as good as the Sunday night market ? from the forums it sounds like the thing not to miss is the sunday night market in cnx
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2013, 06:43:38 PM
Is the Saturday night market as good as the Sunday night market ? from the forums it sounds like the thing not to miss is the sunday night market in cnx
We enjoyed the Sat night Wua Lai market.
We had to leave CNX (to get to MEL) Sunday afternoon so I can't compare them.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 09, 2013, 12:52:31 AM
And I loved that shabbos too :)
of course part of the enjoyment was meeting some people there ;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 01:38:39 AM
you didnt go to kehilat zion?
Shangri La Kowloon is the hotel next door to KZ
I've been to both.

KZ makes chabad look like stogel, but davening is nicer @ chabad.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 01:44:18 AM
Shangri La Kowloon is the hotel next door to KZ
I've been to both.

KZ makes chabad look like stogel, but davening is nicer @ chabad.
Chabad of Kowloon or HKI?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 02:15:52 AM
Chabad of Kowloon or HKI?
Kowloon. Never been to chabad on the island.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 02:22:40 AM
I only speak for Chabad of HKI. Never been to any shul in Kowloon.
Nobody in their right mind would dismiss the CHKI food that I had over shabbos.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 02:27:54 AM
I only speak for Chabad of HKI. Never been to any shul in Kowloon.
Nobody in their right mind would dismiss the CHKI food that I had over shabbos.
Interesting. I guess Ill have to try it out. How many people are there? Is the davening normal?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 09, 2013, 03:15:55 AM
Shangri La Kowloon is the hotel next door to KZ
I've been to both.

KZ makes chabad look like stogel, but davening is nicer @ chabad.
from a food standpoint, KZ is the best weve had on a trip by a clear
(and ive stayed many a shabbos abroad)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 09, 2013, 03:16:30 AM
I only speak for Chabad of HKI. Never been to any shul in Kowloon.
Nobody in their right mind would dismiss the CHKI food that I had over shabbos.
i had their food on a regular morning shachris breakfast and it was really good
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 09, 2013, 03:47:56 AM
How does KZ compare to Beijings Dini's shabbos meals? Found it to be excellent.

Was in HKI, but didn't daven in chabad + was with a holy dude that wanted to eat in the hotel room.

Poor guys @ the hotel, when we asked them for some things, they went up some 13 floors countless times by stairs instead of using the elevator.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 09, 2013, 07:06:56 AM
from a food standpoint, KZ is the best weve had on a trip by a clear mile
(and ive stayed many a shabbos abroad)
ftfm
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 09, 2013, 07:32:59 AM
How does KZ compare to Beijings Dini's shabbos meals? Found it to be excellent.

Was in HKI, but didn't daven in chabad + was with a holy dude that wanted to eat in the hotel room.

Poor guys @ the hotel, when we asked them for some things, they went up some 13 floors countless times by stairs instead of using the elevator.
Never in Beijing for shabbos for ate at Dinis during the week.

KZ is much better
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 09, 2013, 08:20:17 AM
Kz is like eating in a top notch restarant
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on January 09, 2013, 08:32:56 AM
I do stopovers in HKG just to have the Vietnamese Rice at KZ.

OT, but anyone have that recipe??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 09, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
Chiang Mai Sunday market is by far the best in CM... can't compare to the others... it's very big, street is closed, lots of vendors selling various gifts, souvenirs, etc... highly recommended..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 09, 2013, 11:52:44 AM
Chiang Mai Sunday market is by far the best in CM... can't compare to the others... it's very big, street is closed, lots of vendors selling various gifts, souvenirs, etc... highly recommended..
Sat night market is also on a closed street with lots of vendors and better stuff than the standard night market.  I'm sure not as big though.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Platinum on January 10, 2013, 02:20:19 AM
IMO the Sunday night market is over rated. Yes it's bigger but it's pretty much all the same things you will see at the Sat night market. I don't think it's worth extending your stay just for that.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 02:59:30 AM
Have you folks bought anything practical at these markets?
When I was there, I bought a loose fitting shabbos shirt, but beyond that, just chachkalas.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 04:30:53 AM
Another question.

If staying in the Phuket / Krabi / Khao Lak area for 10 days or so, do you recommend renting a car for 2 adults and 3 kids?
If so, any recommendations for a rental company?
How are the roads down there?

EDIT:
Is there any way to use AA miles to fly from Phuket to TLV? It would save me booking a one way from Phuket to BKK.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SuperFlyer on January 10, 2013, 04:48:34 AM
Was at a night market in TPE, and was not exciting, nor very holy products for sale to put it mildly...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 05:11:46 AM
nor very holy products for sale to put it mildly...
You mean holy water, or seforim?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 10:11:25 AM
Sorry for all the postings today.
So I need some routing advice, and am unsure where to post this.

I'll be in Phuket, and need to get back to TLV w/ a OW for 4 ppl + infant.

Typically, the best value is AA for 22.5/30 for OW.
Problem is, I don't think a/o has a published routing from Phuket, so I'd have to position myself back to BKK. That way I could go back direct on LY or CX and LY.

I then realized that it would be nice to go to HKG for 3 days including a shabbos. Alternatively, s/w else w/ a chabad along the way back to TLV. Such as Bombay (Mumbai).

A) I found DragonAir from Phuket to HKG direct for 10k+$50 using BA miles.
Then I could book from HKG to TLV after shabbos for the 22.5/30. (Although Qantas is just showing me RJ availability right now)

B) Or I can try to get myself to BOM and from there to TLV is just 17k BA w/ no YQ. But how to get to BOM from Phuket w/o overpaying...

C) Go to a different city for those 3 days (need advice)

So I'm looking for advice. The first option seems the best to me, but maybe ppl have advice for different routings or a different city to go to.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 10, 2013, 10:51:37 AM
Another question.

If staying in the Phuket / Krabi / Khao Lak area for 10 days or so, do you recommend renting a car for 2 adults and 3 kids?
If so, any recommendations for a rental company?
How are the roads down there?

Really depends on what you want to do. If you are just looking to relax and take it easy at the resort, then probably no need. Even if you plan on going out on a day trip, you're probably better off taking a driver for the day.  If you plan on going around everyday then perhaps worth it.  Personally when I was in Khao Lak with kids (at the time had a 4 year old and 2 year old) we stayed at the resort for 7 days (aside from one day we used a driver to take us to the market nearby... 

Roads are ok.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 10:56:41 AM
Really depends on what you want to do. If you are just looking to relax and take it easy at the resort, then probably no need. Even if you plan on going out on a day trip, you're probably better off taking a driver for the day.  If you plan on going around everyday then perhaps worth it.  Personally when I was in Khao Lak with kids (at the time had a 4 year old and 2 year old) we stayed at the resort for 7 days (aside from one day we used a driver to take us to the market nearby... 

Roads are ok.
It's that beautiful at KL that you didn't need to leave at all? Wow. Which resort?
It looks like there are some beautiful national parks there.

And if I needed to go to Phuket for food or s/t, how much would it cost to go r/t?

Also, a somewhat detailed question.
Of the SPG properties in Phuket, Krabi, and KL, which would be the best for shabbos? Do any rooms have electric sensors inside the room that would be problematic?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 10, 2013, 11:07:30 AM
IMO the Sunday night market is over rated. Yes it's bigger but it's pretty much all the same things you will see at the Sat night market. I don't think it's worth extending your stay just for that.


+1


Have you folks bought anything practical at these markets?
When I was there, I bought a loose fitting shabbos shirt, but beyond that, just chachkalas.


I didn't find anything very useful, more like nice gifts, or mementos.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 10, 2013, 11:12:27 AM
I think the best option with kids is KL... so many pools, great kids club, nice location.. I arranged with a driver to pick up food from Phuket Chabad after he dropped someone off at the airport so it wasn't too expensive... don't remember prices..  My guess is if you wanted a ride to chabad to pick it up yourself you're prob. talking about 1500 baht..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 11:15:43 AM
I think the best option with kids is KL... so many pools, great kids club, nice location.. I arranged with a driver to pick up food from Phuket Chabad after he dropped someone off at the airport so it wasn't too expensive... don't remember prices..  My guess is if you wanted a ride to chabad to pick it up yourself you're prob. talking about 1500 baht..
This is the SPG there?
I think we'll split up our 10 days btw Krabi, LM Phuket, and KL. Sounds like we should weight it heavier to the KL property.
Also, did they give you a problem of having 2 kids? I emailed them and told them I'm coming with 3 kids. They didn't seem to mind.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 11:34:01 AM
You mean holy water, or seforim?
Taipei has porn markets
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 10, 2013, 12:30:41 PM
Another question.

If staying in the Phuket / Krabi / Khao Lak area for 10 days or so, do you recommend renting a car for 2 adults and 3 kids?
If so, any recommendations for a rental company?
How are the roads down there?
Seems like a long time to me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 02:04:10 PM
Seems like a long time to me.
I agree, which is why I thought about hopping to Malaysia in the middle.
But with 3 kids, I don't want to be over-schelpping.d

And relaxation time combine with some boat trips to islands and some day trips to national parks, should more than fill up our time.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on January 10, 2013, 02:14:03 PM
Chiang Mai Sunday market is by far the best in CM... can't compare to the others... it's very big, street is closed, lots of vendors selling various gifts, souvenirs, etc... highly recommended..
is that the best market in Thailand?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 10, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
What are the best miles, if any,to use on small flights in the Far East? I.e. Cnx-sin or pek or hkg
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 02:33:35 PM
What are the best miles, if any,to use on small flights in the Far East? I.e. Cnx-sin or pek or hkg
Revenue is often cheap, where serviced by CX - BA miles, round trip aeroplan.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 02:36:30 PM
Revenue is often cheap, where serviced by CX - BA miles, round trip aeroplan.
Why AC?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 10, 2013, 02:48:32 PM
Why AC?
Its the cheapest.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Its the cheapest.
How many miles?
And they don't charge YQ on Thai still?

@Dan,
Who was the driver you used in Phuket to get to Khao Lak that you mentioned in your TR?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on January 10, 2013, 03:41:27 PM
Who was the driver you used in Phuket to get to Khao Lak that you mentioned in your TR?

Drivers name is boss.. very reliable can take you to phuket for food.. cheaper_khaolak@ymail.com

Perhaps split your stay between Khao Lak and somewhere in Phuket.. or Krabi.. or even hop to one of the smaller islands Ko Phi Phi (very touristy but look it up)

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 10, 2013, 04:01:05 PM
Drivers name is boss.. very reliable can take you to phuket for food.. cheaper_khaolak@ymail.com

Perhaps split your stay between Khao Lak and somewhere in Phuket.. or Krabi.. or even hop to one of the smaller islands Ko Phi Phi (very touristy but look it up)


Thanks.
I'm considering flying into Krabi and renting a car to do some extra attractions and then drive to Khao Lak, spend shabbos there, and then going down to Phuket for the last few days.
If I have 10 nights, what breakdown should I do?
3 Krabi
4 KL
3 Phuket
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 10, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
How many miles? Seems like 20/30/50
And they don't charge YQ on Thai still?

How does one check what the taxs would be if they don't have miles in account? I'm just getting that I don't have enough miles
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 19, 2013, 02:01:21 PM
ICG made their changes to their award chart.
Gotta book before early March to lock in the original rates.

Impact on Thailand.
Holiday Inn in Phi Phi is going up 10k to 35 k :(
But IC on Koh Samui going down 5k to 25k. :)

A few other 5k changes as well.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on January 19, 2013, 10:13:46 PM
The W in Samui is VERY nice, got any SPG saved up?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 20, 2013, 01:03:03 AM
The W in Samui is VERY nice, got any SPG saved up?
I'm going to skip Samui this visit. We'll hang around the south area.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 01:04:53 PM
@ChikkyMonkey (or anyone else that may know):

What are the best hotels (with points or cheap rev rates) in BKK/CNX/HKT?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
@ChikkyMonkey (or anyone else that may know):

What are the best hotels (with points or cheap rev rates) in BKK/CNX/HKT?



  In CNX I would say the LM.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
I stayed and reviewed the hotels Chikky recommended for me in CNX and HKT.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 01:33:39 PM


  In CNX I would say the LM.

Thanks.

I stayed and reviewed the hotels Chikky recommended for me in CNX and HKT.

Excellent - it's been awhile since I've read the TR.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 02:27:13 PM
My wife and I went to Chiang Mai a couple of weeks ago and here is a trip report. Since many of the things to do have already been covered I want to write a brief overview of what we did and then share some small things that I think would be useful for future travelers.



   We landed on Friday, went to the Le Meriden where we were staying, then went to the Chabad restaurant for lunch and then got ready for Shabbos. Getting ready for Shabbos involved working out how to leave and enter the hotel on Shabbos, more on that later.

On Motzei Shabbos we went to the Saturday night market which was packed, got some stuff. Sunday being a fast day, we went shopping a little, got some massages, went to a tailor, and finished by going to the Sunday night Market.

  Monday we did all the attractions, we went to the Monkey show, alligator show, snake/cobra show, gun shooting, elephant camp, and tiger kingdom. We then went to Chabad and ate supper, then went to the night safari.



Now for the small stuff:

- The staff at the Le Meriden, from front desk to security are very limited in communication with English. It took us lots of time and effort to make a basic request.

- There is a staircase at the LM that you can use for Shabbos, although there may be cameras on. Make sure to stay in a lower level room for Shabbos, we originally were put on the 19th floor! Leaving the hotel is simple, you go to the staircase and just push the door handle. Coming back is a little more complicated since the door to the stairs and door to the floors are locked. It's best to speak to security before Shabbos and explain you need to use the stairs on Shabbos, when we told them they understood right away, thanks to all the jews before us. So when coming back into the LM you go to the front desk and ask for security, they will then open the door to the stairs for you and then meet you at the floor you are staying on to open that door for you.
BTW the doors at the main entrance to the hotel are not electric, so there is no Shabbos issues with them AFAIK.


- It's difficult to find a taxi in the streets, so get the phone number of the taxi driver who takes you from the airport to your hotel, also negotiate with him a price for whatever trips you want to take. And be aware that he may send someone in his place if he is busy (without notifying you first)


- Know that all the taxi drivers and tuk tuks have relationships with places tourists visit. For example there are several elephant places that have shows, each taxi driver will have one that he brings you to without letting you know that there are other options. The same holds true for monkey shows, alligator farms, and in the city, tailors, sliver places, etc. I'm not sure if you insist that you want to go to a different place that the driver will listen but it's something to keep in mind.
Taxi drivers will also pressure you to go to a place you have no interest in going. Just tell them firmly you don’t want to go and repeat over and over :)

- Competition for tailor shops among taxis are especially fierce. Research where to go, then tell a tuk tuk driver to take you somewhere near the tailor shop and walk to the tailor. If you tell him the name of the shop he will likely take you to a different tailor even without telling you.

- After doing lots of research we ended up using CM Tailors.

- Tuks tuks are 2 wheeled scooters that have had a wide bench and back wheels added on to them.

- The Chaing Mai night safari was a waste of time for us. It's 30 minutes each way, and we didn't really see the point of it. They take you on a tram bus to see different animal enclosures and they then shine a light on the animal. I would rather do the same thing in daylight.
We did find 2 things we liked, they had a really cool water show with color lasers and music, similar to the Bellagio in Vegas but much cooler. You can also hold a baby tiger and take pictures with it for 300 baht. However it’s not like Tiger Kingdom, here they take a few pictures and quickly take the tiger away from you. No chance to pet it, play with it, etc.

- Tiger Kingdom was awesome. I would highly recommend hiring a photographer for 300 baht per cage, you get about 100 pictures per cage on a CD. They get shots you can't get with your camera, like up close pics of the tigers.

- I recommend the Monkey School, as well as the Messa Elephant camp. Make sure to visit the holding pens before the shows, you can feed the elephants bananas and take pictures with them. If you want to ride an elephant, make sure to book a spot before you go to the shows. The times are limited and sometimes full.

Just an FYI, when taking pictures with the elephants at the holding pens there are several tricks they are trained to do with you if you stay with them for a few minutes. They first wrap their trunks around your neck or chest (probably for pics), they then take the hat of the guy who is riding them and put it on your head (make sure to take off anything your wearing on your head), then if your still there they will give you a kiss with their trunks!  Warning: it does smell strongly of bananas. If your an animal lover you definitely will want to stay there for a few minutes to get all their tricks in, most people leave right after they take a picture with the elephants trunks around them. BTW after you leave your supposed to give the rider a tip by giving it to the elephant who gives it to its rider.


- Shabbos meals at Chabad were very nice. We found the food good, there were lots of singing and a chance to meet different people. A couple of things I really appreciated, whatever food they served was served in abundance, no need to ask for more. I also really liked that the meals were not sclepped out, each meal lasted about an hour and a half.

- If you go for a massage I wouldn't recommend getting a Thai Massage as they use a lot of pressure and bend and pull your limbs, better to stick with a neck and back massage, or oil massage.



If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
Great job!

Not many people have done both the Sat night and Sun night markets.
How would you compare them?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 02:36:20 PM
Awesome, thanks for the writeup. I'm sure I'll have some Q's as my trip nears and I begin planning for "on the ground" time.

Any pics?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 02:51:26 PM
Great job!

Not many people have done both the Sat night and Sun night markets.
How would you compare them?



Thanks. I didn't see any major differences between them, except that there more interesting things being sold at the Sunday night market. Most of the stuff we brought we got at the Sunday market as opposed to the Saturday night market. The Sunday one was bigger though, and since there wasn't a problem with Shabbos we got there early before it got really crowded.


Awesome, thanks for the writeup. I'm sure I'll have some Q's as my trip nears and I begin planning for "on the ground" time.

Any pics?



I have hundreds of pics, what do you want to see?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 03:15:35 PM
Oh, nothing specific. Just that pics are worth a thousand words :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 20, 2013, 03:20:08 PM
@ChikkyMonkey (or anyone else that may know):

What are the best hotels (with points or cheap rev rates) in BKK/CNX/HKT?
Did you take a look at this link? It'll help you compare SPG hotels.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=305.msg370981#msg370981

And I agree with the LM in CNX. It's great, especially for the value.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
Yeah, I've read it. Was wondering what the folks here thought (esp from a shabbas pespective).

Thanks for the reminder,  though.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 20, 2013, 03:46:11 PM
I had found the monkey show I went to cute, but afterwards, when you see them all tied up to a stick with a few feet of chain, I felt like it seeing them in a prison.
I also did a shooting range in the north. It was quite the experience for my wife :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 03:47:33 PM
I had found the monkey show I went to cute, but afterwards, when you see them all tied up to a stick with a few feet of chain, I felt like it seeing them in a prison.
+1
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 20, 2013, 03:48:57 PM
Yeah, I've read it. Was wondering what the folks here thought (esp from a shabbas pespective).

Thanks for the reminder,  though.
I spent shabbos (3 nights total) at this place.
http://www.sukantara.com/

Due to some issues in our base room the first night, they upgraded us to their biggest suite for the last 2 nights which included shabbos.
Based on my rudimentary calculations, I was able to walk in the outside area between the 2 rooms and personal pool on shabbos.
http://www.sukantara.com/Chiang-mai-Luxury-Pool-Villa.html
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 20, 2013, 03:51:44 PM
+1
And they had the gall to write s/t along the lines of their monkeys running free like they do in nature. Put a real damper on the experience, to the point I would recommend not going there.

The elephant show and ride on the other hand was great. And make sure to stick around afterwards since you can get up close n' personal with them. One of them picked my up w/ its trunk. Despite not wearing a cup, I survived. :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 03:54:48 PM
The elephant show and ride on the other hand was great. And make sure to stick around afterwards since you can get up close n' personal with them. One of them picked my up w/ its trunk. Despite not wearing a cup, I survived. :)
http://www.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/IMG_0284a.jpg
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 20, 2013, 03:59:48 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/IMG_0284a.jpg
yup, same place.
I hope the shows in the south are as nice. My 6 and 4 year olds would really enjoy it.
Maybe I can tip them to allow the 4 yr old on for the ride...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PETERP on January 20, 2013, 05:01:56 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/IMG_0284a.jpg

Boy those elephants look small. When I first heard they wrap their trunk around you , I thought you
guys were crazy . These elephants do not look so menacing
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 05:02:35 PM
Here are some pics of the elephants holding area:
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 20, 2013, 05:03:27 PM
Boy those elephants look small. When I first heard they wrap their trunk around you , I thought you
guys were crazy . These elephants do not look so menacing
yes they are small, they are asian elephants, not african
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 06:06:45 PM
I spent shabbos (3 nights total) at this place.
http://www.sukantara.com/

Due to some issues in our base room the first night, they upgraded us to their biggest suite for the last 2 nights which included shabbos.
Based on my rudimentary calculations, I was able to walk in the outside area between the 2 rooms and personal pool on shabbos.
http://www.sukantara.com/Chiang-mai-Luxury-Pool-Villa.html

Thanks for the recco, I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 06:07:05 PM
@ZCN:

How much are the massages in Thailand? Are they as cheap as I'm thinking they are??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
@ZCN:

How much are the massages in Thailand? Are they as cheap as I'm thinking they are??
Depends where. But yes, they can be had for as little as a couple dollars.
Money goes far in Thailand.  That counteracts the smelliness/dirtiness of the place.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 06:10:12 PM
So my thoughts of like $15-20 for an hour (or two?) aren't crazy?

I assume they cost more in the hotels themselves and the prices above are for Thai massage parlors?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 06:14:16 PM
So my thoughts of like $15-20 for an hour (or two?) aren't crazy?

I assume they cost more in the hotels themselves and the prices above are for Thai massage parlors?
A massage parlor on the street will be far less than that.  No guarantee on quality/cleanliness though.
Hotels will be much more.

Don't forget that everything, and I do mean everything, is negotiable.  You will be raped if you are not a good negotiator.
Whenever you hear a price just come back at 10% of the asking price and work up to ~15% of the asking price perhaps.
For example for a polo shirt knockoff they asked for $30, I countered with $3, and settled on $4 after 5 minutes of the game.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 06:21:52 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Do the negotiations also work at the hotel spas?

So I guess I need recommendations for good massage places in BKK/CNX?

Perhaps this question is better asked on FT?

Has anyone one here got an awesome massage they wanna share the info about?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 06:24:24 PM
We had an incredible hot stone massage at the LM Khao Lak, but it was free because of the problems we had.
I doubt those rates are too negotiable, but definitely can't hurt to ask.

Not sure why you're bothering with BKK from everything I've see though.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Do the negotiations also work at the hotel spas?

So I guess I need recommendations for good massage places in BKK/CNX?

Perhaps this question is better asked on FT?

Has anyone one here got an awesome massage they wanna share the info about?



I can only speak for CNX but unless you want something very specific or want a upscale/nice environment I doubt there are recommendations out there. You have to understand that there are massage places every 100 feet. Its like asking for a recommendation for where to buy a bottle of soda on Ave M in Flatbush.

And worst case scenario if you don't like the massage you got just go to the next place. All you've lost is $5 and some time.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 06:29:15 PM


I can only speak for CNX but unless you want something very specific or want a upscale/nice environment I doubt there are recommendations out there. You have to understand that there are massage places every 100 feet. Its like asking for a recommendation for where to buy a bottle of soda on Ave M in Flatbush.
Lol, +1.
Probably a Fodor's or Lonely Planet would be the place to look for something special that's still a bargain.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 06:32:13 PM
@ Dan whats the best way  to load pictures onto a post? I'm having trouble loading even one pic at a time.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 20, 2013, 06:46:08 PM
Use Microsoft pic manager to compress them and save them as a separate file.

Or upload to picasa, etc
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 20, 2013, 07:06:24 PM
Lol, +1.
Probably a Fodor's or Lonely Planet would be the place to look for something special that's still a bargain.
tripadvisors not bad
Title: Re: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: elikay on January 20, 2013, 07:08:59 PM
@ Dan whats the best way  to load pictures onto a post? I'm having trouble loading even one pic at a time.
You can also use tinypic.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 09:03:14 PM
Use Microsoft pic manager to compress them and save them as a separate file.

Or upload to picasa, etc



Thanks.

1. Elephant painting a picture
2. Alligator show
3. A tuk tuk
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on January 20, 2013, 09:27:02 PM
1. Sat. night market
2. Sunday night market
3. Laser show at Night Safari
4. Picture drawing at the Sunday night market
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 20, 2013, 11:12:34 PM
We had an incredible hot stone massage at the LM Khao Lak, but it was free because of the problems we had.
I doubt those rates are too negotiable, but definitely can't hurt to ask.

Not sure why you're bothering with BKK from everything I've see though.

I only mention BKK because, as of now, our tickets are through BKK :P



I can only speak for CNX but unless you want something very specific or want a upscale/nice environment I doubt there are recommendations out there. You have to understand that there are massage places every 100 feet. Its like asking for a recommendation for where to buy a bottle of soda on Ave M in Flatbush.

And worst case scenario if you don't like the massage you got just go to the next place. All you've lost is $5 and some time.

Haha, I hear ya.

I'll check out the below suggestions perhaps.
Lol, +1.
Probably a Fodor's or Lonely Planet would be the place to look for something special that's still a bargain.
tripadvisors not bad

Thanks.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 21, 2013, 12:48:07 AM
@ZCN:

How much are the massages in Thailand? Are they as cheap as I'm thinking they are??
They are dirt cheap if you're willing to not be in a luxurious place. They were the highlight of my wife's trip. :)
 I couldn't force myself to have one, as most of them were females, and I felt weird looking for a male guy.

But they're all over the place, and you can negotiate. Up north was a bit cheaper than BKK, but the standard is 300 baht ($10) for an hour of a basic massage. Add in a few $$ if you want oil, or s/t fancier.

Hotels will obviously cost more, as will nicer spas.

(The first place we went to had a sign saying "No Sex". It's supposedly an epidemic in Thailand.)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 21, 2013, 02:39:52 AM
lol had a hard time finding males as well. when i actually did find i was scared they thought i wanted them for diff reasons. one of the places the massage was so bad, im pretty sure they pulled a man off the street. still managed a good massage, and never had to pay more than 250 baht (bkk)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on January 21, 2013, 02:41:43 AM
Flying (or having a ticket to put it more accurately  ;)) TG F ex BKK gives you access to the Royal Orchid Spa lounge with massages and a jacuzzi.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on January 21, 2013, 07:12:15 AM
while in BKK my back started acting up so i went for a Thai massage. def not a pleasurable/soothing experience
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 21, 2013, 11:03:42 AM
while in BKK my back started acting up so i went for a Thai massage. def not a pleasurable/soothing experience
depends where u go
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 21, 2013, 11:10:52 AM
Tiger Kingdom - Kanchanaburi
(http://i47.tinypic.com/if2z9z.jpg)

Bamboo Rafting
(http://i45.tinypic.com/34dr66x.jpg)

Dont forget a good breakfast at Chabad BKK :)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/34qlqtv.jpg)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 24, 2013, 01:04:23 PM
Revenue is often cheap, where serviced by CX - BA miles, round trip aeroplan.
ac doesnt allow stopovers in the same :( didnt realize this. was hoping to do s/t like pek-sin-usm-hkg
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 25, 2013, 04:07:38 AM
For a/o interested, I stumbled across Bangkok Airway's Discovery Airpass option.
In short, you pay a fixed price for various OW flights within Thailand, and a premium for flights out of Thailand. This includes flights on Lao.

http://goingawesomeplaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/DiscoveryAirpass.pdf
http://www.bangkokair.com/pages/discovery_airpass/fare-per-coupon
http://goingawesomeplaces.com/2012/11/27/bangkok-airways-discovery-airpass/

Some highlights are (OW cost):
BKK - MLE  $200
BKK - BOM $200
And others

But you would need to see how each price compares w/ other airlines, and this seems more challenging to book although the child discount is nice.

They're supposed to be a very nice airline, not just a budget one.

What do you think?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 25, 2013, 04:37:45 AM
For a/o interested, I stumbled across Bangkok Airway's Discovery Airpass option.
In short, you pay a fixed price for various OW flights within Thailand, and a premium for flights out of Thailand. This includes flights on Lao.

http://goingawesomeplaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/DiscoveryAirpass.pdf
http://www.bangkokair.com/pages/discovery_airpass/fare-per-coupon
http://goingawesomeplaces.com/2012/11/27/bangkok-airways-discovery-airpass/

Some highlights are (OW cost):
BKK - MLE  $200
BKK - BOM $200
And others

But you would need to see how each price compares w/ other airlines, and this seems more challenging to book although the child discount is nice.

They're supposed to be a very nice airline, not just a budget one.

What do you think?
Cool!! $200 one way?
MLE for so cheap
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 25, 2013, 07:28:29 AM
Cool!! $200 one way?
MLE for so cheap
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but when I did an ITA search, it was around 150 less than a comparable RT cost, which included stopovers.
Although once you're in Thailand already, then miles may be a good value for going there.
But the direct flight is the best part of it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on January 25, 2013, 12:21:27 PM
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but when I did an ITA search, it was around 150 less than a comparable RT cost, which included stopovers.
Although once you're in Thailand already, then miles may be a good value for going there.
But the direct flight is the best part of it.
I saw 22k baht =700 dollars as a round trip
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 26, 2013, 03:24:26 PM
I saw 22k baht =700 dollars as a round trip
So 400 is great
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 28, 2013, 07:40:04 AM
Another great option for traveling around the area is US Airway for 25/30/40 for the region, including MLE, DPS, India, and others.

South & Central Asia includes Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Brunei, Cambodia, Chagos, India, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Maldives, Myanmar, Nepal, Pakistan, Philippines, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand, and Vietnam

Hopefully you can take advantage of their generous routing rules, along with a SO or OJ.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on January 29, 2013, 12:50:19 PM
i scrolled through the last 35 pages and didnt really find answers to my question so if somebody can be so kind and take time to help me out a bit i would be really great full.
My wife and i will be landing in bkk  on apr 5th friday early morning
and departing on  apr 16
should we stay in bkk for shabb or fly to phuket or one of the other places we plan to visit friday morning???

also what do guys suggest is the nicest or appropriate place/resort/island to stay for a couple of days since this trip is a honeymoon??
 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on January 29, 2013, 01:30:24 PM
i scrolled through the last 35 pages and didnt really find answers to my question so if somebody can be so kind and take time to help me out a bit i would be really great full.
My wife and i will be landing in bkk  on apr 5th friday early morning
and departing on  apr 16
should we stay in bkk for shabb or fly to phuket or one of the other places we plan to visit friday morning???
 

If I were you I'd want to be in a place where there is a nice shabbas with Chabad -- BKK and CNX (IIRC).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mmermss on January 29, 2013, 01:31:54 PM
Any one wana wiki this thread?  :D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 29, 2013, 03:30:25 PM
Anyone up to a real water bed?

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/verygoodpoints/2013/01/29/bangkok%E2%80%99s-most-unique-hotels/
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 30, 2013, 11:06:32 PM
I'm planning a trip to Thailand this August and after reading through 40 page it seems that CNX is a must, so as of now this is my itinerary looks like:
Stay in CNX for 4 days from Aug 1st - Augst 5th at LM.
I'm planning on returning home approximately 08/11 - 08/13 which means that I have an entire week to spend somewhere, so should I head down to USM? Or should I visit some other Asian country e.g. Vietnam, Laos etc?
Do I need to apply for a visa before traveling to Thailand? Does anyone know if The Conrad in Koh Samui is near the Chabad house? All/any info is appreciated.
I'm quite flexible so anything that may sense is an option.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 30, 2013, 11:26:53 PM
I'm planning a trip to Thailand this August and after reading through 40 page it seems that CNX is a must, so as of now this is my itinerary looks like:
Stay in CNX for 4 days from Aug 1st - Augst 5th at LM.
I'm planning on returning home approximately 08/11 - 08/13 which means that I have an entire week to spend somewhere, so should I head down to USM? Or should I visit some other Asian country e.g. Vietnam, Laos etc?
Do I need to apply for a visa before traveling to Thailand? Does anyone know if The Conrad in Koh Samui is near the Chabad house? All/any info is appreciated.
I'm quite flexible so anything that may sense is an option.
If you add in Chiang Rai, you can have a driver take you on day trips to Laos and Burma, and you can tour the Golden Triangle.
And they have a nice LM property.
And I have been told to skip the Conrad if you're going w/ kids.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 30, 2013, 11:28:00 PM
If you add in Chiang Rai, you can have a driver take you on day trips to Laos and Burma, and you can tour the Golden Triangle.
And they have a nice LM property.
And I have been told to skip the Conrad if you're going w/ kids.
How many days do I need for Laos and Burma? Whats the Golden Triangle? I won't be traveling with kids.I'll take them when they grow up  :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 31, 2013, 12:26:12 AM
Where do I search for cheap intra-Thailand tickets.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2013, 12:30:29 AM
AirAsia.com
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 31, 2013, 12:52:46 AM
AirAsia.com
They don't have any flight to USM? Is there another airport in the area that I'm missing?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 31, 2013, 12:56:25 AM
They're pretty cheap they have tickets from CEI/CNX - BKK for $36!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on January 31, 2013, 12:58:22 AM
They don't have any flight to USM? Is there another airport in the area that I'm missing?
Nope, but good for CEI/CNX/HKT
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 31, 2013, 12:59:25 AM
Nope, but good for CEI/CNX/HKT
Gotcha thanks. So if I choose to fly to USM I'll be paying close to $300 for a OW ticket? Any ideas tricks?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on January 31, 2013, 01:01:14 AM
Where do I search for cheap intra-Thailand tickets.
skyscanner.net
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 31, 2013, 01:46:06 AM
Where do I search for cheap intra-Thailand tickets.
Consider Thai's or Bangkok's flight package options to see if you can save money.
There are previous posts about them.

AirAsia.com
But that leaves out others such as Nok, Bangkok, and Thai.
Try skyscanner as the poster wrote, or chk out each individual website. They often run promotions.
If you're using a budget carrier, make sure chk which airport in BKK it departs from, since when we flew Nok, they arrived into the old airport.

You can also consider cheap flights to Malaysia and other nearby places.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 31, 2013, 02:07:29 AM
Consider Thai's or Bangkok's flight package options to see if you can save money.
Thanks guys appreciate the help. Are you alluding to award tickets with an extra leg? I'm trying to piece the trip together with AA miles on CX. In the meantime I could book CEI - BKK for $36; BKK - USM for $150;USM- BKK for $150.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 31, 2013, 02:14:35 AM
Thanks guys appreciate the help. Are you alluding to award tickets with an extra leg? I'm trying to piece the trip together with AA miles on CX. In the meantime I could book CEI - BKK for $36; BKK - USM for $150;USM- BKK for $150.
I'm referring to the flight packages that allow you to book 3+ legs for a set price.
Here's the post about Bangkok air. They have the advantage of good flight options to USM.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on January 31, 2013, 08:26:00 AM
I'm referring to the flight packages that allow you to book 3+ legs for a set price.
Here's the post about Bangkok air. They have the advantage of good flight options to USM.
Thanks, but where's the post?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on January 31, 2013, 02:44:22 PM
Thanks, but where's the post?

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=305.msg399320#msg399320

Search earlier for the other one.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on February 01, 2013, 05:05:20 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=305.msg399320#msg399320

Search earlier for the other one.
Thanks. Does anyone know if the Conrad Koh Samui is walking distance to Chabad?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on February 02, 2013, 11:11:21 AM
25+ km away... very long walk
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on February 02, 2013, 10:03:15 PM
Thanks. Does anyone know if the Conrad Koh Samui is walking distance to Chabad?

None of the nice hotels are near Chabad
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on February 02, 2013, 10:59:08 PM

Do I need to apply for a visa before traveling to Thailand?




No, you just land and get a visa at immigration, like in Israel, EU, etc.

FYI there are companies at the Bangkok airports that will escort you though customs for about $35 PP. I haven't used them but have heard of people using them. They skip all the lines and go straight to a special customs desk. IMHO only worth it if you don't want to take the chance of waiting in a line, i.e. you think you will be exhausted or traveling with a bunch of kids.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 02, 2013, 11:11:02 PM


No, you just land and get a visa at immigration, like in Israel, EU, etc.

FYI there are companies at the Bangkok airports that will escort you though customs for about $35 PP. I haven't used them but have heard of people using them. They skip all the lines and go straight to a special customs desk. IMHO only worth it if you don't want to take the chance of waiting in a line, i.e. you think you will be exhausted or traveling with a bunch of kids.
Thai does the same thing for F passengers.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on February 03, 2013, 11:33:28 PM
I’m landing in BKK at about midnight and leaving at about 6pm. What are the top 2 things to do in bkk? and which *w hotel will you recommend?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on February 04, 2013, 01:00:17 AM
Depends what u like doing
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 04, 2013, 09:41:57 AM
I’m landing in BKK at about midnight and leaving at about 6pm. What are the top 2 things to do in bkk? and which *w hotel will you recommend?
the grand palace and a boat ride
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 04, 2013, 08:53:53 PM
P.S. For those traveling to USM / Koh Samui on a budget - check out http://www.thesundaysresort.com/ - I loved it there.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 05, 2013, 07:07:44 AM
Interesting post on Koh Lanta.
http://www.johnnyjet.com/2013/02/koh-lanta-southern-thailands-secret-gem/
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 11, 2013, 03:30:22 PM
whats the closest starward hotel to chabad Bangkok is it walking distance for shabbos??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 11, 2013, 03:43:28 PM
whats the closest starward hotel to chabad Bangkok is it walking distance for shabbos??

which Chabad house?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on February 11, 2013, 09:44:37 PM
I'm still planning my trip and could use some help.
This is what I have so far:
My plan is to stay in Chiang Mai from  08/01 - 08/05
Then travel to chiang rai and stay there from 08/05 - 08/08
Then I have from 08/08 - 08/11 to go somewhere in the area. I initially planned on traveling to Koh Samui, but I was told earlier that there are no nice hotels near Chabad,  it's a flight to BKK - USM which isn't cheap and I'd like to stay near a Chabad house for shabbos if possible.
The question is if I'm already flying from CEI - USM ( Spending time and $$$) is there a better option in southeast Asia where I could go to a cool place and stay at a nice hotel near a Chabad house? Or Koh Samui is really that worth it and I should stick to that.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 12, 2013, 03:28:51 AM
singapore
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on February 12, 2013, 03:43:07 AM
I'm still planning my trip and could use some help.
This is what I have so far:
My plan is to stay in Chiang Mai from  08/01 - 08/05
Then travel to chiang rai and stay there from 08/05 - 08/08
Then I have from 08/08 - 08/11 to go somewhere in the area. I initially planned on traveling to Koh Samui, but I was told earlier that there are no nice hotels near Chabad,  it's a flight to BKK - USM which isn't cheap and I'd like to stay near a Chabad house for shabbos if possible.
The question is if I'm already flying from CEI - USM ( Spending time and $$$) is there a better option in southeast Asia where I could go to a cool place and stay at a nice hotel near a Chabad house? Or Koh Samui is really that worth it and I should stick to that.

Chaing Rai seems a little long unless you just wanna relax, there really isn't that much to see.. Golden triangle sounds better than it is...

South only decent option in August is the Gulf (ie Samui) from there you can take a day trip to Ang Thong Marine Park (look up)... Ko samui itself isn't that beautiful...

I once spent shabbos there but stayed at a simple hotel.. There are a few decent hotels nearby though.. (decent doesn't mean chains, more the boutique type..)  look up tripadvisor http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g676072-Chaweng_Koh_Samui_Surat_Thani_Province-Hotels.html

You're at chaweng beach
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on February 12, 2013, 04:27:40 AM
Chaing Rai seems a little long unless you just wanna relax, there really isn't that much to see.. Golden triangle sounds better than it is...
Drago recommended that I go to Chiang Rai and take day trips to Loas and Burma. Do you recommend going there at all? If yes for how many days?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 12, 2013, 05:09:46 AM
or singapore or Vietnam
they both a cool place
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 12, 2013, 06:38:01 AM
which Chabad house?

whichever has the best shabbos vibes  ;D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 12, 2013, 06:40:44 AM
whichever has the best shabbos vibes  ;D

so for sure rabbi wilhelm there is aprox 200people every friday night

here are is infos
http://www.jewishthailand.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/913059/jewish/Bangkok.htm#Ohr_Menachem
look @ Accomodations

check this hotel is right accross a street http://www.viengtai.co.th/en/
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on February 12, 2013, 10:34:33 AM
Drago recommended that I go to Chiang Rai and take day trips to Loas and Burma. Do you recommend going there at all? If yes for how many days?

Are you just with wife? kids? What are you looking for?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 12, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
Drago recommended that I go to Chiang Rai and take day trips to Loas and Burma. Do you recommend going there at all? If yes for how many days?
I never did it myself. But from reading about it, it seems like it's an interesting option.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 03:52:53 PM
so for sure rabbi wilhelm there is aprox 200people every friday night

here are is infos
http://www.jewishthailand.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/913059/jewish/Bangkok.htm#Ohr_Menachem
look @ Accomodations

check this hotel is right accross a street http://www.viengtai.co.th/en/
In high season there's 300 ppl average Friday night

That hotel is about 1800-2100 baht a night and it's Ok. I never slept there but I've heard reviews from ppl that did. Nothing to exciting.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 12, 2013, 04:44:11 PM
Thanks alot im going in April so its 1700 a night
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 12, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
I'm still planning my trip and could use some help.
This is what I have so far:
My plan is to stay in Chiang Mai from  08/01 - 08/05
Then travel to chiang rai and stay there from 08/05 - 08/08
Then I have from 08/08 - 08/11 to go somewhere in the area. I initially planned on traveling to Koh Samui, but I was told earlier that there are no nice hotels near Chabad,  it's a flight to BKK - USM which isn't cheap and I'd like to stay near a Chabad house for shabbos if possible.
The question is if I'm already flying from CEI - USM ( Spending time and $$$) is there a better option in southeast Asia where I could go to a cool place and stay at a nice hotel near a Chabad house? Or Koh Samui is really that worth it and I should stick to that.

I stayed in FX Hotel in Koh Samui, (thats where the pesach sedarim took place) not very fancy but decent enough. (very good AC) 8 minute walk to chabad.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/thailand/samui/fx_resort_chaweng.html

Is phuket an option?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on February 12, 2013, 10:07:30 PM
so for sure rabbi wilhelm there is aprox 200people every friday night
I don't have much interest in Bangkok.
Are you just with wife? kids? What are you looking for?
It's just my wife and me. I'm looking to get a glimpse of the far east basically looking to see cool places and people.
I never did it myself. But from reading about it, it seems like it's an interesting option.
Do you recommend the lonely planet for Thailand? It sounds cool, so I think I'll head over to Chiang Rai on 08/04 in the evening on 08/06 fly to Koh Samui until 08/09 then I'll head over to Hong Kong until 08/12 since I'm flying out of HKG.
Or should I just skip Koh Samui and head over to Hong Kong after Chaing Rai and spend the extra time in Macau or Shenzhen?
 Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on February 12, 2013, 10:09:15 PM
I stayed in FX Hotel in Koh Samui, (thats where the pesach sedarim took place) not very fancy but decent enough. (very good AC) 8 minute walk to chabad.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/thailand/samui/fx_resort_chaweng.html

Is phuket an option?
It seems like it's not the place to go in August, and I haven't read many good reviews on Phuket.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 12, 2013, 10:10:10 PM
Remember, Bangkok Shabbos is backpackers, Hong Kong Shabbos is business people
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2013, 10:24:19 PM
Remember, Bangkok Shabbos is backpackers, Hong Kong Shabbos is business people
I did CNX+HKG+downtown MEL and each shul had a very unique flavor.  Was great.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 12, 2013, 10:24:58 PM
It seems like it's not the place to go in August, and I haven't read many good reviews on Phuket.
not a place to take the wife :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 13, 2013, 01:44:37 AM
It seems like it's not the place to go in August, and I haven't read many good reviews on Phuket.
Tons of beautiful islands you can visit close to Phuket.
We're going to stay in Khao Lak for 4 nights, Krabi for 3 and Phuket for 2.
It also seems that some parts oh Phuket are overrun, but other parts are quite and nice.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 13, 2013, 02:47:35 AM
Remember, Bangkok Shabbos is backpackers, Hong Kong Shabbos is business people

Singapore = HKG
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 13, 2013, 04:35:46 AM
We're going to stay in Khao Lak for 4 nights, Krabi for 3 and Phuket for 2.
Wayyyyy too long.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 13, 2013, 04:52:00 AM
Wayyyyy too long.
We discussed this already...
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=305.msg386065#msg386065

Traveling w/ 3 young kids, and we don't want to be jumping all over the place.
Btw the national parks, some islands, hotel grounds, and some cultural sites, we'll have more than enough to do.
For now, I'm trying to add on a few days for somewhere after this. I'm considering flying to Bali for 4 nights or so, and from there using AA miles to fly from DPS - TLV.
Other options are Vietnam, Langkawi (sic), HKG, or ?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 13, 2013, 06:01:22 AM
Singapore = HKG
not in my experience
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 13, 2013, 06:10:51 AM
not in my experience

why what was then?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 13, 2013, 06:18:31 AM
why what was then?
at the fri night meal in SIN was mostly tourists, by day we ate with the locals
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on February 13, 2013, 06:22:20 AM
at the fri night meal in SIN was mostly tourists, by day we ate with the locals

yes but mostly business tourists
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on February 13, 2013, 06:33:51 AM
yes but mostly business tourists
not ime, either way it cant be compared to hkg
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 13, 2013, 08:36:34 AM
Tons of beautiful islands you can visit close to Phuket.
We're going to stay in Khao Lak for 4 nights, Krabi for 3 and Phuket for 2.
It also seems that some parts oh Phuket are overrun, but other parts are quite and nice.
I stayed 2 weeks in Koh Phi Phi. It's nice.
Remember the movie 'The Beach' with Leonardo DiCaprio? It was filmed on an Island called Maya Bay which is a short boat ride away from Phi Phi.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on February 13, 2013, 02:31:40 PM
I don't have much interest in Bangkok. It's just my wife and me. I'm looking to get a glimpse of the far east basically looking to see cool places and people. Do you recommend the lonely planet for Thailand? It sounds cool, so I think I'll head over to Chiang Rai on 08/04 in the evening on 08/06 fly to Koh Samui until 08/09 then I'll head over to Hong Kong until 08/12 since I'm flying out of HKG.
Or should I just skip Koh Samui and head over to Hong Kong after Chaing Rai and spend the extra time in Macau or Shenzhen?
 Your thoughts?

Samui over Shenzhen or Macau! Couple days in he is enough... Part of Thailand experience are the islands..

Like I said a day trip from Sami to any thong marine park (islands) is worth the visit alone...

In the north if u wanna blow money and get the Thai experience check out the CR Four Seasons Tent Camp... As Thai as it gets
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 13, 2013, 02:35:51 PM
In the north if u wanna blow money and get the Thai experience check out the CR Four Seasons Tent Camp... As Thai as it gets
Sure, b/c Thai's sleep in tents that cost over $500 per night :)

But they do look stunning.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 13, 2013, 02:58:19 PM
Samui over Shenzhen or Macau! Couple days in he is enough... Part of Thailand experience are the islands..

Like I said a day trip from Sami to any thong marine park (islands) is worth the visit alone...

In the north if u wanna blow money and get the Thai experience check out the CR Four Seasons Tent Camp... As Thai as it gets

I thought about jumping over to Macau or schenzen while in HK, but when I saw they wanted smack me with nearly $150/pp in visa fees, I said they can keep their counterfeit goods and casinos :)

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: daganster on February 13, 2013, 11:08:45 PM
Samui over Shenzhen or Macau! Couple days in he is enough... Part of Thailand experience are the islands..

Like I said a day trip from Sami to any thong marine park (islands) is worth the visit alone...

In the north if u wanna blow money and get the Thai experience check out the CR Four Seasons Tent Camp... As Thai as it gets
Fair enough I'll stick to my plan including Koh Samui.
So this is the plan
Chaing Mai 08/01 - 08/04
Chiang Rai 08-04 -08-06
Koh Samui 08-06-08-08
Bangkok night of 08
Hong kong 08-09 - 08-1
Which SPG hotel should I stay at in BKK? ( preferably near the airport)
Sure, b/c Thai's sleep in tents that cost over $500 per night :)

But they do look stunning.
I'm with you on that.
I thought about jumping over to Macau or schenzen while in HK, but when I saw they wanted smack me with nearly $150/pp in visa fees, I said they can keep their counterfeit goods and casinos :)
Thanks, I'll stick to HKG.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 13, 2013, 11:24:49 PM
I thought about jumping over to Macau or schenzen while in HK, but when I saw they wanted smack me with nearly $150/pp in visa fees, I said they can keep their counterfeit goods and casinos :)
Youll make up for the visa fees in cheaper hotels.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 13, 2013, 11:42:35 PM
Youll make up for the visa fees in cheaper hotels.

I'm only in HK for 36 hours. Not worth it as I'll be spending my one night in a Hyatt suite from a cert.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on February 14, 2013, 12:58:11 AM
I thought about jumping over to Macau or schenzen while in HK, but when I saw they wanted smack me with nearly $150/pp in visa fees, I said they can keep their counterfeit goods and casinos :)
unless things changed since July, u don't need a visa for Macau
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2013, 12:58:23 AM
I thought about jumping over to Macau or schenzen while in HK, but when I saw they wanted smack me with nearly $150/pp in visa fees, I said they can keep their counterfeit goods and casinos :)
Huh? Macau has no fees.
And the Cirque-like water show is awesome and cheap and they allow photography!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 14, 2013, 01:50:39 PM
If s/o could help me out a bit that would be awesome!!!!
Im landing in Bangkok on friday apr 5th and leaving on the 15th so ill be there for 11 days. This trip is a honeymoon so i do want to spend alot of the time at a beach. what area would you recommend for that also being the time of year that were being there ?? Also we will be there for 2 shabbosim so i guess the 1st one we should prob spend in bangkok and well be able to go around a bit on fri and check out the sat night market and take a flight out on sunday but for the second shabb were would u suggest  we spend it ?? I do have some spg points but not enough for the whole trip so i was thinking renting out a villa for part of the time whats ur view on that as well??
thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 14, 2013, 02:06:54 PM
If s/o could help me out a bit that would be awesome!!!!
Im landing in Bangkok on friday apr 5th and leaving on the 15th so ill be there for 11 days. This trip is a honeymoon so i do want to spend alot of the time at a beach. what area would you recommend for that also being the time of year that were being there ?? Also we will be there for 2 shabbosim so i guess the 1st one we should prob spend in bangkok and well be able to go around a bit on fri and check out the sat night market and take a flight out on sunday but for the second shabb were would u suggest  we spend it ?? I do have some spg points but not enough for the whole trip so i was thinking renting out a villa for part of the time whats ur view on that as well??
thanks in advance!!!
Did you glance at this thread to see beach, shabbos, and SPG options?
Lots of good info
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 14, 2013, 02:47:41 PM
unless things changed since July, u don't need a visa for Macau

Ah, that's excellent news. Thanks. Maybe we WILL go check out the casinos for a bit.

Huh? Macau has no fees.
And the Cirque-like water show is awesome and cheap and they allow photography!

I'll add it to my list!

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 14, 2013, 03:03:27 PM
Did you glance at this thread to see beach, shabbos, and SPG options?
Lots of good info
didnt see any1 going in april. whats the best island that time of year??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 14, 2013, 04:17:01 PM
If s/o could help me out a bit that would be awesome!!!!
Im landing in Bangkok on friday apr 5th and leaving on the 15th so ill be there for 11 days. This trip is a honeymoon so i do want to spend alot of the time at a beach. what area would you recommend for that also being the time of year that were being there ?? Also we will be there for 2 shabbosim so i guess the 1st one we should prob spend in bangkok and well be able to go around a bit on fri and check out the sat night market and take a flight out on sunday but for the second shabb were would u suggest  we spend it ?? I do have some spg points but not enough for the whole trip so i was thinking renting out a villa for part of the time whats ur view on that as well??
thanks in advance!!!
It's a shame that you are leaving 2 days shy of Songkran ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songkran_(Thailand) )
Missing out on loads of fun.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on February 14, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
It's a shame that you are leaving 2 days shy of Songkran ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songkran_(Thailand) )
Missing out on loads of fun.
I also missed out on it. It was on peach last year and I left for this exact days
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 14, 2013, 04:59:18 PM
I also missed out on it. It was on peach last year and I left for this exact days
looking on air asia i want to do a flight from bkk to hkt and hkt to cnx and then back to bkk is there a way i wont have to pay for baggage for each flight?? 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 14, 2013, 05:24:14 PM
looking on air asia i want to do a flight from bkk to hkt and hkt to cnx and then back to bkk is there a way i wont have to pay for baggage for each flight?? 
You won't pay for your baggage quota. Anything above it you will. Unless Asia is diff than the US...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 14, 2013, 05:48:48 PM
You won't pay for your baggage quota. Anything above it you will. Unless Asia is diff than the US...
what i meant is they offer 35kg for $35 im wondering if i could do a multi city flight and pay $35 for the whole way through instead of paying for each individual flight which it seems like im going to have to do :'(
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 14, 2013, 07:18:36 PM
I also missed out on it. It was on peach last year and I left for this exact days
I thought we met that day  :P
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on February 14, 2013, 07:21:31 PM
what i meant is they offer 35kg for $35 im wondering if i could do a multi city flight and pay $35 for the whole way through instead of paying for each individual flight which it seems like im going to have to do :'(
look into Bangkok air , they usually are similar in price and offer much more free luggage
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on February 14, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
I thought we met that day  :P
i remember u were gonna come but i left - i dont remember meeting u unless we met and u didnt tell me u were u
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 15, 2013, 05:35:50 AM
i remember u were gonna come but i left - i dont remember meeting u unless we met and u didnt tell me u were u
for the beginning of april do i got to phuket or  Ko Samui i need answers pls pls ? want to book tics before they go up in price!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 15, 2013, 07:05:30 AM
for the beginning of april do i got to phuket or  Ko Samui i need answers pls pls ? want to book tics before they go up in price!!
They are two much different places, so first decide what type of vacation you want.
And then chk weather forecasts on Google to ensure that both places are somewhat similar.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 15, 2013, 08:00:44 AM
They are two much different places, so first decide what type of vacation you want.
And then chk weather forecasts on Google to ensure that both places are somewhat similar.
its a honeymoon but i do want to do water sports aswell
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 16, 2013, 02:43:49 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=305.msg399320#msg399320

Search earlier for the other one.
i looked at that not sure what that is can u explain how to use it ?? and im planing to fly bkk to phuket to cnx back to bkk would that help me
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 16, 2013, 02:57:13 PM
i looked at that not sure what that is can u explain how to use it ?? and im planing to fly bkk to phuket to cnx back to bkk would that help me
Never booked it myself, but if the prices look good to you, call them up and try to do it.
Alternatively, there are a bunch of budget carriers, and you can keep checking them for promos, and booking each leg individually.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 16, 2013, 06:30:02 PM
Never booked it myself, but if the prices look good to you, call them up and try to do it.
Alternatively, there are a bunch of budget carriers, and you can keep checking them for promos, and booking each leg individually.
cool ill try that. and what do u think about the islands which one should i go with??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 17, 2013, 12:11:30 AM
In the north if u wanna blow money and get the Thai experience check out the CR Four Seasons Tent Camp... As Thai as it gets

My buddy, from my MLE TR, mentioned he stayed there and it was the most memorable experience of his life.

Anyway to book with points? I know FS is part of Marriott but couldn't find out for sure.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on February 17, 2013, 12:51:08 AM
My buddy, from my MLE TR, mentioned he stayed there and it was the most memorable experience of his life.

Anyway to book with points? I know FS is part of Marriott but couldn't find out for sure.
did you ever meet up with him for drinks?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 18, 2013, 03:24:42 AM
cool ill try that. and what do u think about the islands which one should i go with??
My 2 cents;
If you want a more relaxed vacation with less "distractions" then go to koh samui.
You have water sports both in chaweng and boh put, there is a nice safari inland, you can ride elephants, take a pic with a tiger, zip line etc.

Renting scooters and driving around the island on the circular road can be fun too.

Phuket is not a honeymoon destination IMHO, unless it is just your gateway to get to the islands such as phi phi.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 18, 2013, 06:48:46 AM
My 2 cents;
If you want a more relaxed vacation with less "distractions" then go to koh samui.
You have water sports both in chaweng and boh put, there is a nice safari inland, you can ride elephants, take a pic with a tiger, zip line etc.

Renting scooters and driving around the island on the circular road can be fun too.

Phuket is not a honeymoon destination IMHO, unless it is just your gateway to get to the islands such as phi phi.
what about kaho lak???
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 18, 2013, 06:56:19 AM
what about kaho lak???
I'm heading out there! With the islands, national parks, and SPG property, I'm pumped.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 18, 2013, 07:23:48 AM
I'm heading out there! With the islands, national parks, and SPG property, I'm pumped.
what about diving and water sports?? anything near there??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 18, 2013, 07:32:23 AM
what about diving and water sports?? anything near there??
There is from what I've read.
I'd advise reading TripAdvisor along w/ other website where you'll find lots of detailed information that'll help you plan.
Only a few ppl here have been to all the places you're considering, so our depth of knowledge isn't the deepest.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on February 18, 2013, 02:23:11 PM
I did a discovery padi dive in phi phi (100$) - loved it. (The underwater sights were amazing)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 18, 2013, 04:27:29 PM
Air Asia is having 'free' flights from KUL till the end of July.
Even w/ YQ and taxes, the prices are still quite good.
http://www.airasia.com/ot/en/promotion/rr0470307.page?icid=aa110imba130218
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 18, 2013, 11:59:08 PM
Which SPG hotel in BKK is the best option for a one - 2 night stay just passing through, the W, Westin, or La Meridien? They all have are open now C and P.

Or perhaps the Aloft, Royal orchard sheraton or Four points by Sheraton which are not avail C and P but still super cheap.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on February 19, 2013, 01:14:02 AM
what about diving and water sports?? anything near there??

Look up similian islands its closest to khao lak if I'm not mistaken and has amazing diving
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on February 19, 2013, 01:30:51 AM
My buddy, from my MLE TR, mentioned he stayed there and it was the most memorable experience of his life.

Anyway to book with points? I know FS is part of Marriott but couldn't find out for sure.
i don't think fs is part of Marriott , RC is.
Also I took a look at that tent camp looks beautiful but very expensive , anybody know a way to get that cheaper or what the cheapest price that u can get it for?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 27, 2013, 04:01:40 PM
how would i get the corner suite in le meridien chiang mai with cash and points?? do i have to call after i make the reservation??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 27, 2013, 04:18:55 PM
how would i get the corner suite in le meridien chiang mai with cash and points?? do i have to call after i make the reservation??
Are you Plat? Or do you want to pay for it?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on February 27, 2013, 04:25:07 PM
how would i get the corner suite in le meridien chiang mai with cash and points?? do i have to call after i make the reservation??
Who said you could?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on February 27, 2013, 04:30:29 PM
Who said you could?

You can definitely negotiate with the hotel to put you in a corner suite for $$.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on February 27, 2013, 04:31:03 PM
Are you Plat? Or do you want to pay for it?
im a gold how much would it costto pay for it??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on February 27, 2013, 04:34:49 PM
im a gold how much would it costto pay for it??
Email them and ask.
Or have a Plat book it for you through their account.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 01, 2013, 04:59:53 PM
$110/night for a 2 bedroom suite at the Anantara Bangkok

https://ssl.gha.com/Search.aspx?chain=AN&property=ANBKK2&language=EN-en&NoRooms=1&NoAdultsofRoom1=1&NoChildrenofRoom1=0&Child1Age1=&Child1Age2=&Child1Age3=&NoAdultsofRoom2=1&NoChildrenofRoom2=0&Child2Age1=&Child2Age2=&Child2Age3=&NoAdultsofRoom3=1&NoChildrenofRoom3=0&Child3Age1=&Child3Age2=&Child3Age3=&promo_code=GHAFLASH0213
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 02, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
$110/night for a 2 bedroom suite at the Anantara Bangkok

https://ssl.gha.com/Search.aspx?chain=AN&property=ANBKK2&language=EN-en&NoRooms=1&NoAdultsofRoom1=1&NoChildrenofRoom1=0&Child1Age1=&Child1Age2=&Child1Age3=&NoAdultsofRoom2=1&NoChildrenofRoom2=0&Child2Age1=&Child2Age2=&Child2Age3=&NoAdultsofRoom3=1&NoChildrenofRoom3=0&Child3Age1=&Child3Age2=&Child3Age3=&promo_code=GHAFLASH0213

But you have to stay in BKK :P
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 05, 2013, 12:31:48 AM
Just ticketed our Thailand/Maldives Vacation(posting this in Thailand and maldives thread) b/w December 22nd and January 7th all in J. Keep in mind this is during high season for both of these locations so availability is scarce but I would appreciate any feedback tips on how to make it better. Also note that I had a one way to HNL set but cancelled it in exchange for the BKK-MLE on SQ biz instead of taking a raunchy Sri Lanka air economy flight. The Itinerary is below:

EWR - MXP(UA)- Depart 12/22
MXP - BKK(TG) - Arrive 12/24 6 AM- Fly to HKT and spend 3 nights and then fly to CNX and spend 5 nights there
BKK - SIN(SQ)- Depart 1/1/14
SIN - MLE(SQ)Arrive in MLE 1/1 at 11PM :-[- any thoughts on where to stay or go straight to resort which I didn't book yet
MLE - SIN(SQ)Depart 11:30 PM 1/5
SIN - BKK(SQ)
BKK - ZRH(TG)- Will have a full day in BKK before taking the midnight flight back home.
ZRH - EWR(UA)- Arrive

Thanks!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 05, 2013, 12:40:36 AM
Just ticketed our Thailand/Maldives Vacation(posting this in Thailand and maldives thread) b/w December 22nd and January 7th all in J. Keep in mind this is during high season for both of these locations so availability is scarce but I would appreciate any feedback tips on how to make it better. Also note that I had a one way to HNL set but cancelled it in exchange for the BKK-MLE on SQ biz instead of taking a raunchy Sri Lanka air economy flight. The Itinerary is below:

EWR - MXP(UA)- Depart 12/22
MXP - BKK(TG) - Arrive 12/24 6 AM- Fly to HKT and spend 3 nights and then fly to CNX and spend 5 nights there
BKK - SIN(SQ)- Depart 1/1/14
SIN - MLE(SQ)Arrive in MLE 1/1 at 11PM :-[- any thoughts on where to stay or go straight to resort which I didn't book yet
MLE - SIN(SQ)Depart 11:30 PM 1/5
SIN - BKK(SQ)
BKK - ZRH(TG)- Will have a full day in BKK before taking the midnight flight back home.
ZRH - EWR(UA)- Arrive

Thanks!
3 nights in HKT? oh the horror....
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 05, 2013, 12:43:08 AM
3 nights in HKT? oh the horror....

That bad??

Was thinking of the Westin and then spending some time on Phi Phi..I hear very conflicting thoughts about hkt. Many people here aren't fans but I have friends (Israelis) that only stay there. Care to elaborate your thoughts?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 05, 2013, 02:05:08 AM
That bad??

Was thinking of the Westin and then spending some time on Phi Phi..I hear very conflicting thoughts about hkt. Many people here aren't fans but I have friends (Israelis) that only stay there. Care to elaborate your thoughts?
To me HKT is strictly for middle aged backpackers and zona mongers. 'scuse my french. That said, there are some nicer parts to it as well. It all depends on how much money you can spare.

Phi Phi is a must for all types and ages, there is something for everyone without the in yo face @#$ trade on every corner. It's a cholent pot of all sorts, lots to see & do. I spent about 2 weeks on Phi Phi last year and loved every minute.

Bottom Line: Less time at HKT, more time on Phi Phi.

If you want suggestions as to what to do, holla.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 05, 2013, 02:28:59 AM
That bad??

Was thinking of the Westin and then spending some time on Phi Phi..I hear very conflicting thoughts about hkt. Many people here aren't fans but I have friends (Israelis) that only stay there. Care to elaborate your thoughts?
Not that bad at all.
While phuket itself may not be the best, there are tons of islands and national parks to explore, along w/ zip lining in the jungle, animals, etc.
You can also go up to Khao Lak and stay at the LM there (although the price just jumped up today for points and C&P)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 05, 2013, 06:15:57 PM
Not that bad at all.
While phuket itself may not be the best, there are tons of islands and national parks to explore, along w/ zip lining in the jungle, animals, etc.
You can also go up to Khao Lak and stay at the LM there (although the price just jumped up today for points and C&P)

Yeah- my plan is to possibly spend the time over at phi phi instead...thanks
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 06, 2013, 01:09:49 AM
Yeah- my plan is to possibly spend the time over at phi phi instead...thanks
If you do, a decent option is the PC property there which is increasing from 25k to 35k in late March, so book soon.
You'll have to call them to book though since the website shows the higher price.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 06, 2013, 01:13:03 AM
are you talking about this one

http://www.priorityclub.com/hotels/us/en/phi-phi-island/phupb/hoteldetail

They have the crowne plaza too but that's on phuket..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 06, 2013, 01:23:04 AM
are you talking about this one

http://www.priorityclub.com/hotels/us/en/phi-phi-island/phupb/hoteldetail

They have the crowne plaza too but that's on phuket..
yup
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on March 06, 2013, 03:58:59 AM
Thinking of going with the kids in Juli. Can stay at Le meridien Kao Lak for cheap, weather is a risk or go to Koh Samui and have better weather, what do you think?

Seems the Kao Lak area has more to do, but food is really far (chabad) Will they deliver? Costs?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 06, 2013, 04:38:06 AM
Thinking of going with the kids in Juli. Can stay at Le meridien Kao Lak for cheap, weather is a risk or go to Koh Samui and have better weather, what do you think?

Seems the Kao Lak area has more to do, but food is really far (chabad) Will they deliver? Costs?
W/ kids, Khao Lak seems better.
You can pick up food when you land in Phuket and bring it with you. Worst comes to worst, it's a 1 hr drive, and you can make a day trip out of it.

I've also emailed w/ them to see what that can arrange (s/o in FT gave me a contact guy) and I'll update you when I hear back.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mena613 on March 06, 2013, 07:55:45 AM

Lets arrange a whole group to travel there for the summer !

Whos in ?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 07, 2013, 10:35:22 AM
whats the closest rewards hotel near the chabad in bkk need a place to stay for shabb and want to use points
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2013, 11:57:50 AM
Why BKK and not CNX?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on March 07, 2013, 12:55:31 PM
whats the closest rewards hotel near the chabad in bkk need a place to stay for shabb and want to use points
which chabad, there are 3 in bkk
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 07, 2013, 04:29:51 PM
Why BKK and not CNX?
landing in bkk on a friday but have no fear going to cnx for 5 days
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 07, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
which chabad, there are 3 in bkk
dont know much about the chabads there care to help me out ?? its me and the wife looking for a nice atmosphere for shabb which chabad do you recommend and hotel?? 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2013, 04:42:04 PM
landing in bkk on a friday but have no fear going to cnx for 5 days
No good connecting flights?
5 days? Way too long.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 07, 2013, 04:48:52 PM
No good connecting flights?
5 days? Way too long.
There's some nice looking properties in Pattaya, but I've been told it's for older European men looking for Thai girls. (I'm not sure why they would look for them, but that's what I was told)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 07, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
No good connecting flights?
5 days? Way too long.

Really? 5 days is too long for CNX? I thought its the place with the most things to do...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 07, 2013, 04:50:32 PM
I'm going for 5 nights (over shabbas), and I think that'll be just a perfect amount of time.

At least according to tentative itinerary.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 07, 2013, 04:51:56 PM
I'm going for 5 nights (over shabbas), and I think that'll be just a perfect amount of time.

At least according to tentative itinerary.

That's what I have scheduled as well. 5 days with shabbat in the middle. I couldn't miss that Sunday night market everyone's been talking about..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2013, 04:55:51 PM
Really? 5 days is too long for CNX? I thought its the place with the most things to do...
Dunno I was there for 3 nights including shabbos. Maybe we could have pushed it to 4 nights, but 5 nights seems like overkill to me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on March 07, 2013, 05:28:25 PM
That's what I have scheduled as well. 5 days with shabbat in the middle. I couldn't miss that Sunday night market everyone's been talking about..

5 days is probably too much for CNX, unl;ess you plan to take day trips to laos...
as to the sunday market, i think its way over hyped. nothing there but nick nacks. the regular night bazaar was much better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 07, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
Zip-lining;
Massage;
Caving;
Massage;
Tiger Kingdom;
Massage;
Elephant farm;
Massage;
Rock climbing;
Massage;
Sunday night Market;
Massage;
Saturday night Market;
Massage;
etc etc

That'll eat up 5 days in no time.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: TAVI on March 07, 2013, 06:46:35 PM
lol, i can provide more activities, if you are really trying to convince yourself that you should stay there longer. its thailand after all...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 07, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
lol, i can provide more activities, if you are really trying to convince yourself that you should stay there longer. its thailand after all...

I actually WANT to stay married to my wife, but thanks :P
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on March 07, 2013, 07:02:01 PM
Just ticketed our Thailand/Maldives Vacation(posting this in Thailand and maldives thread) b/w December 22nd and January 7th all in J. Keep in mind this is during high season for both of these locations so availability is scarce but I would appreciate any feedback tips on how to make it better. Also note that I had a one way to HNL set but cancelled it in exchange for the BKK-MLE on SQ biz instead of taking a raunchy Sri Lanka air economy flight. The Itinerary is below:

EWR - MXP(UA)- Depart 12/22
MXP - BKK(TG) - Arrive 12/24 6 AM- Fly to HKT and spend 3 nights and then fly to CNX and spend 5 nights there
BKK - SIN(SQ)- Depart 1/1/14
SIN - MLE(SQ)Arrive in MLE 1/1 at 11PM :-[- any thoughts on where to stay or go straight to resort which I didn't book yet
MLE - SIN(SQ)Depart 11:30 PM 1/5
SIN - BKK(SQ)
BKK - ZRH(TG)- Will have a full day in BKK before taking the midnight flight back home.
ZRH - EWR(UA)- Arrive

Thanks!

Couple quick thoughts:
Arriving late in MLE means having to stay the night on the mainland or someplace very close... Because most resorts require seaplane which operates only during daytime hours...

Definitely recommend deciding in advance which islands in Phuket area you're interested and go straight there... Israelis love the market scene in hkt...

5 days might be long but I've stayed more and found lots of things to do... If you like relaxing you can go to Pai about 3 hr drive from chiang Mai and spend a night or two there.. Very chilled village for backpackers in the mountains.. Great place to rent scooters and explore the surrounding areas.

I also recommend going elephant rising there as its much less formal... U can go bareback (bit painful) and u can have a great time in the Pai river with the elephants... Thom's Pai elephant camp..

The drive up there is very nice... If you do rent a car be careful!

They have hot springs there as well
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 07, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
@ChikkyMonkey -- do you think its worth the three hour trek to Pai just for the elephant riding?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 08, 2013, 12:59:20 AM
Couple quick thoughts:
Arriving late in MLE means having to stay the night on the mainland or someplace very close... Because most resorts require seaplane which operates only during daytime hours...

Definitely recommend deciding in advance which islands in Phuket area you're interested and go straight there... Israelis love the market scene in hkt...

5 days might be long but I've stayed more and found lots of things to do... If you like relaxing you can go to Pai about 3 hr drive from chiang Mai and spend a night or two there.. Very chilled village for backpackers in the mountains.. Great place to rent scooters and explore the surrounding areas.

I also recommend going elephant rising there as its much less formal... U can go bareback (bit painful) and u can have a great time in the Pai river with the elephants... Thom's Pai elephant camp..

The drive up there is very nice... If you do rent a car be careful!

They have hot springs there as well
what about shabb in bkk ?? whats thebest place to stay near chabad??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 08, 2013, 01:02:06 AM
No good connecting flights?
5 days? Way too long.
want to spend fri checking out bkk and the sat night market
might be a little long but the le meridien is nice there and and were being there for shabb
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on March 08, 2013, 01:03:37 AM
How long will you be there for? I would say if going there you definitely wanna spend the night. The elephant camp is great, it's very small and they'll gear it towards you, we took a 2 hour ride, but after a while it gets quite painful so I asked to go straight to the river to get wet with the elephants... check out this for pics of the ride:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g303916-d1391314-Reviews-Thom_s_Pai_Elephant_Camp-Pai_Mae_Hong_Son_Province.html

Renting motor bikes there is a must.. it's a beautifully chilled area where you can bike relax, go into a cafe for a drink... there are some israelis as well depending on what time of year you visit.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on March 08, 2013, 01:11:26 AM
what about shabb in bkk ?? whats thebest place to stay near chabad??

I never bothered staying in bkk for shabbos. Not crazy over it.. personally I would even skip BKK, it's a typical large asian city... hot, muggy, and not much else... I've been there a few times.. but I much prefer other places. I've stayed at the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit great hotel but far from chabad... also stayed at Le Meridien also nice hotel (not as big as Sheraton) as well as some others...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 08, 2013, 08:56:54 AM
I never bothered staying in bkk for shabbos. Not crazy over it.. personally I would even skip BKK, it's a typical large asian city... hot, muggy, and not much else... I've been there a few times.. but I much prefer other places. I've stayed at the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit great hotel but far from chabad... also stayed at Le Meridien also nice hotel (not as big as Sheraton) as well as some others...
to late to change :( how far is the le meridian from chabad walkable for shabb???
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 08, 2013, 09:00:21 AM
Just ticketed our Thailand/Maldives Vacation(posting this in Thailand and maldives thread) b/w December 22nd and January 7th all in J. Keep in mind this is during high season for both of these locations so availability is scarce but I would appreciate any feedback tips on how to make it better. Also note that I had a one way to HNL set but cancelled it in exchange for the BKK-MLE on SQ biz instead of taking a raunchy Sri Lanka air economy flight. The Itinerary is below:

EWR - MXP(UA)- Depart 12/22
MXP - BKK(TG) - Arrive 12/24 6 AM- Fly to HKT and spend 3 nights and then fly to CNX and spend 5 nights there
BKK - SIN(SQ)- Depart 1/1/14
SIN - MLE(SQ)Arrive in MLE 1/1 at 11PM :-[- any thoughts on where to stay or go straight to resort which I didn't book yet
MLE - SIN(SQ)Depart 11:30 PM 1/5
SIN - BKK(SQ)
BKK - ZRH(TG)- Will have a full day in BKK before taking the midnight flight back home.
ZRH - EWR(UA)- Arrive



Following up on the above, I had to change up the reservation and pull it back 1 week in order to have availability at the Conrad MLE so my MLE leg will come first and then Thailand. I'll post info on that in the MLE thread.

With regards to Thailand, I was thinking 4 nights at the Conrad Koh Samui, then a flight to HKT and spending 3 nights there, before another flight to CNX for 3 or 4 nights before flying to bkk for the flight home to NY. Only downside is that I won't spend shabbat in cnx which I heard was cool and I'll also miss the sunday market.

So as of now we will spend 5 nights at MLE, 4 at USM, 3 in HKT, and 4 in CNX and fly on too many segments to count...you guys think this is too much??


Thanks!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on March 08, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
to late to change :( how far is the le meridian from chabad walkable for shabb???
yikes, probably a few hours
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 08, 2013, 12:37:07 PM
How long will you be there for? I would say if going there you definitely wanna spend the night. The elephant camp is great, it's very small and they'll gear it towards you, we took a 2 hour ride, but after a while it gets quite painful so I asked to go straight to the river to get wet with the elephants... check out this for pics of the ride:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g303916-d1391314-Reviews-Thom_s_Pai_Elephant_Camp-Pai_Mae_Hong_Son_Province.html

Renting motor bikes there is a must.. it's a beautifully chilled area where you can bike relax, go into a cafe for a drink... there are some israelis as well depending on what time of year you visit.

Going for 5 nights, Wed-Mon, in May (will Israelis be there then?)

Renting motorbikes sounds quite delightful... maybe we'll go there thursday and stay overnight... Recommendation  for where to stay?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 08, 2013, 12:38:02 PM

Following up on the above, I had to change up the reservation and pull it back 1 week in order to have availability at the Conrad MLE so my MLE leg will come first and then Thailand. I'll post info on that in the MLE thread.

With regards to Thailand, I was thinking 4 nights at the Conrad Koh Samui, then a flight to HKT and spending 3 nights there, before another flight to CNX for 3 or 4 nights before flying to bkk for the flight home to NY. Only downside is that I won't spend shabbat in cnx which I heard was cool and I'll also miss the sunday market.

So as of now we will spend 5 nights at MLE, 4 at USM, 3 in HKT, and 4 in CNX and fly on too many segments to count...you guys think this is too much??


Thanks!

#jealous!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 08, 2013, 02:39:08 PM
yikes, probably a few hours
any rewards hotel close chabad??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 09, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
just booked the Conrad Koh Samui on axon for our december trip...hope this place lives up to its hype...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 10, 2013, 12:11:17 PM
Do we have an DDF TR's for the Conrad Koh Samui? Anyone ever stayed at a resort on phi phi instead of in phuket?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 10, 2013, 07:43:58 PM
Do we have an DDF TR's for the Conrad Koh Samui? Anyone ever stayed at a resort on phi phi instead of in phuket?
Keep in mind that most resorts on phi phi are not on the main part of the island which means you will have to catch a longboat everytime you want to go out. (But at least you'll be in a much quiter setting)

Must dos in phi phi:
Watch the fire show (weds night is the biggest IIRC)
Scuba (discovery is just $100)
Maya bay day trip (highlite of your trip)
Kayak to monkey beach (not a must, but nice if the monkeys come out to play)
Thai boxing (in the center of the island, you can't miss it)
Go up to the lookouts (sunrise is beautiful up there)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 10, 2013, 07:49:49 PM
Thank you Suave! appreciate the response. I thought that Koh Phi Phi was one island and for ex- the holiday inn is on Ko phi phi? Was I wrong?

If the resorts are all the way on the other side- shouldn't we stay at a nice resort in patong close to chabad and just take the ferry out to phi phi...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 10, 2013, 08:15:38 PM
Thank you Suave! appreciate the response. I thought that Koh Phi Phi was one island and for ex- the holiday inn is on Ko phi phi? Was I wrong?

If the resorts are all the way on the other side- shouldn't we stay at a nice resort in patong close to chabad and just take the ferry out to phi phi...

http://www.krabihotelvilla.com/kophiphi/map.htm look at where holiday inn is in relation the the main beaches. That trip requires a longboat. No cars or mopeds on the island.

But it's not such a big deal...if the vacation is about chilling and relaxing. But if you want adventure then stay in the main area.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 10, 2013, 10:12:38 PM
http://www.krabihotelvilla.com/kophiphi/map.htm look at where holiday inn is in relation the the main beaches. That trip requires a longboat. No cars or mopeds on the island.

But it's not such a big deal...if the vacation is about chilling and relaxing. But if you want adventure then stay in the main area.


We'll be in MLE for 5 nights and in USM for 4 nights basically relaxing before that so we may want to be around the action...any recommendations of where to stay in phi phi if that's what we're looking for? Should we just stay in patong?

Also- didn't really think about this one but what about Krabi?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 11, 2013, 01:12:21 AM
what about shabb in bkk ?? whats thebest place to stay near chabad??

We stayed in The Davis Hotel when we were there in Dec 2011.  It's a 10 minutes walk from Beis Elisheva (Chabad).  I booked the hotel on Orbitz as they had a free upgrade promotion going on.  I also requested 2 beds.  The total for the upgraded room would have been $58/night.  Turns out when we got there they only had single bed rooms available.  I pointed out that I specifically requested 2 beds.  They apologized for their mistake and put us in the only 2-bed room they had: The 2-bedroom suite (aka, the nicest room in the house).  Of course, they did not charge us for the mistake.

The Davis hotel is a really nice hotel, I'd say about 4 to 5 stars.  Some pictures of the hotel/room are below.

Also, they are familiar with Shabbos at the hotel and make it easy to get up and down to your room via the stairs.  The main doors are not electric either.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Yehoshua on March 11, 2013, 01:12:59 AM
Suite picture: Living room and kitchen area
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 11, 2013, 02:37:40 AM

We'll be in MLE for 5 nights and in USM for 4 nights basically relaxing before that so we may want to be around the action...any recommendations of where to stay in phi phi if that's what we're looking for? Should we just stay in patong?

Also- didn't really think about this one but what about Krabi?
Any resort in or near the main area should be fine. There are many.
If you need help finding one, let me know.

I have not been to krabi unfortunately, so can not say anything.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 11, 2013, 12:18:57 PM
Any resort in or near the main area should be fine. There are many.
If you need help finding one, let me know.

I have not been to krabi unfortunately, so can not say anything.

I'd be happy w/ a recommendation...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 11, 2013, 12:21:39 PM
I'd be happy w/ a recommendation...

+1 to that
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on March 12, 2013, 04:06:46 PM

Following up on the above, I had to change up the reservation and pull it back 1 week in order to have availability at the Conrad MLE so my MLE leg will come first and then Thailand. I'll post info on that in the MLE thread.

With regards to Thailand, I was thinking 4 nights at the Conrad Koh Samui, then a flight to HKT and spending 3 nights there, before another flight to CNX for 3 or 4 nights before flying to bkk for the flight home to NY. Only downside is that I won't spend shabbat in cnx which I heard was cool and I'll also miss the sunday market.

So as of now we will spend 5 nights at MLE, 4 at USM, 3 in HKT, and 4 in CNX and fly on too many segments to count...you guys think this is too much??


Thanks!

I personally don't see why you are going to Phuket as well as Samui.. Having come from MLE where there's amazing beaches, underwater life, water sports... why bother going to two more beach cities? I would stick to one and spend more time in mainland Thailand or for that matter any neighboring countries...

Having been to all 3 places you mentioned seems a little repetitive..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 12, 2013, 06:11:53 PM
I personally don't see why you are going to Phuket as well as Samui.. Having come from MLE where there's amazing beaches, underwater life, water sports... why bother going to two more beach cities? I would stick to one and spend more time in mainland Thailand or for that matter any neighboring countries...

Having been to all 3 places you mentioned seems a little repetitive..

This will be our first time in Thailand and my wife is a huge beach person. She's not the type to stay out in the country or go hiking. If it was up to her we would go back to Kauai and not travel to Asia at all.  I'm almost worried that 5 days in cnx may be too much :P.

I read the entire thread and it looks like both Samui and Phuket ( Phi Phi and surrounding) can be beautiful places to visit especially if we take day trips out to the different islands not to mention the amazing rooms we will have in the resorts. This is probably the longest time I will take off work for the next 10 years so I am trying to take advantage.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on March 12, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
Fair enough...  just don't care for patong.. and Even samui wasn't my favorite.. prefer the smaller islands ko phangan ko tao etc..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 12, 2013, 06:22:53 PM
Fair enough...  just don't care for patong.. and Even samui wasn't my favorite.. prefer the smaller islands ko phangan ko tao etc..

Did you stay on those smaller islands? I'm flexible to the point where I can stay on any island for 4 nights instead of patong which is why I was thinking of koh phi phi but if you have something better to recommend please do
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 13, 2013, 01:49:48 AM
If you want lots of beachtime, then perhaps a private island resort is more up your alley?
Or maybe the Holiday Inn Phi Phi aint so bad after all, worse come to worse - let her get her tan on while you do scuba or something solo.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 13, 2013, 01:55:30 AM
Did you stay on those smaller islands? I'm flexible to the point where I can stay on any island for 4 nights instead of patong which is why I was thinking of koh phi phi but if you have something better to recommend please do
There are absolutly stunning villas for rent on many of these islands.
Chk out this blog for some ideas.
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/

And some Koh Lanta info.
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/koh-lanta-guide/

Please do the emerald cave if you go, and let us know how it goes.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 13, 2013, 09:35:32 AM
Decent sale in Khao Lak.
http://www.travelzoo.com/local-deals/International/Getaway/43658
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 13, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
There are absolutly stunning villas for rent on many of these islands.
Chk out this blog for some ideas.
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/

And some Koh Lanta info.
http://www.neverendingvoyage.com/koh-lanta-guide/

Please do the emerald cave if you go, and let us know how it goes.

This actually sounds like a great idea. We can fly into HKT which is a boat ride away from Phi Phi or Koh Lanta. That emerald cave looks amazing!!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 13, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
This actually sounds like a great idea. We can fly into HKT which is a boat ride away from Phi Phi or Koh Lanta. That emerald cave looks amazing!!!
Or fly into Krabi and be even closer to Koh Lanta and Phi Phi.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 13, 2013, 11:09:45 AM
Or fly into Krabi and be even closer to Koh Lanta and Phi Phi.

Won't kosher food be an issue as there is no place to pickup food
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 13, 2013, 11:45:52 AM
Won't kosher food be an issue as there is no place to pickup food
It would be, but you can always drive there, or just bring enough.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 13, 2013, 11:51:53 AM
Decent sale in Khao Lak.
http://www.travelzoo.com/local-deals/International/Getaway/43658
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but here is the fine print: Not available on: March 9-11, 16, 21-31; April 1-7

Pesach is out of the question.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 13, 2013, 11:53:12 AM
Won't kosher food be an issue as there is no place to pickup food
BKK Chabad has a nice selection of Kosher L'pesach food. You can even try to have it shipped to your destinations
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 13, 2013, 11:54:43 AM
BKK Chabad has a nice selection of Kosher L'pesach food. You can even try to have it shipped to your destinations

Thanks but i'm going in december so I don't think i'll want kosher for pesach food :)

I was referring to kosher food being an issue if  I stay on Krabi or Ko Lanta
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on March 13, 2013, 12:00:06 PM
Thanks but i'm going in december so I don't think i'll want kosher for pesach food :)

I was referring to kosher food being an issue if  I stay on Krabi or Ko Lanta
After my years of traveling to 3rd world places i have become sort of a self proclaimed expert on improvised kosher kitchens.

A roll of silverfoil + a small grill + portable propane stovetop will feed a few starving Jews for less than $30
Buy whole fish at the market, vegetables etc...

Pas Paltur is not an issue in most places.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 13, 2013, 12:05:54 PM
After my years of traveling to 3rd world places i have become sort of a self proclaimed expert on improvised kosher kitchens.

A roll of silverfoil + a small grill + portable propane stovetop will feed a few starving Jews for less than $30
Buy whole fish at the market, vegetables etc...

Pas Paltur is not an issue in most places.
My plan exactly!
I'm going to bring cooking stuff, and then have Thai's cook for us so we can have 'authentic' food.
I'll speak w/ my LOR first, but I don't think she'll have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 13, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
My plan exactly!
I'm going to bring cooking stuff, and then have Thai's cook for us so we can have 'authentic' food.
I'll speak w/ my LOR first, but I don't think she'll have a problem with it.

 ;D - What a tzadik
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 13, 2013, 12:23:26 PM
;D - What a tzadik
She really is.
#37
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on March 14, 2013, 12:50:02 AM
Which is the best camp for elephant riding in cnx? Does anyone know of a good tailor in cnx?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 14, 2013, 10:08:08 AM
Check out trip advisor.

Also, one was recommended here in a recent trip report. Maesa I believe.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 14, 2013, 10:23:58 AM
My old Plan has changed (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2502.msg382126#msg382126) and it keeps on changing but i think i have it pat down now and i want to hear some opinions.

I want to leave next week to Thailand with a friend for a few weeks.

does this make sense:

1. land in CNX next Wed. morning and stay till motzei shabbos or sunday morning
2. Fly to USM (connect in BKK) - be there from Sunday 3/24 thru first days of pesach and shabbos chol hamoed.
3. Leave Sunday chol hamoed to BKK and spend last days there, and isru chag.
4. Thursday or friday fly to HKT and visit the islands etc. (stay in hkt ) for shabbos

5. since i need to fly back to US through the long way and on mileage ticket i have a stopover so im thinking of stopping in London over shabbos 4/13 and then flying back to LAX - and friend to JFK

any better way to do this? too little, too long time?

other countries, or stick to one?

FLYING: i have united miles and UR - should i find other miles or do my best with these.

i found going JFK-ZRH-BKK for next week in business. - return im not sure yet how thru london
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 14, 2013, 06:43:14 PM
Thanks but i'm going in december so I don't think i'll want kosher for pesach food :)

I was referring to kosher food being an issue if  I stay on Krabi or Ko Lanta

I believe that you can order from http://www.kosherthailand.com/ (http://www.kosherthailand.com/) to be delivered to almost anywhere in the country. Maybe that's an option if you don't want to schlep food.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 14, 2013, 07:37:47 PM
I believe that you can order from http://www.kosherthailand.com/ (http://www.kosherthailand.com/) to be delivered to almost anywhere in the country. Maybe that's an option if you don't want to schlep food.

Thanks- I'll definitely check it out!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 14, 2013, 07:43:43 PM
My old Plan has changed (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2502.msg382126#msg382126) and it keeps on changing but i think i have it pat down now and i want to hear some opinions.

I want to leave next week to Thailand with a friend for a few weeks.

does this make sense:

1. land in CNX next Wed. morning and stay till motzei shabbos or sunday morning
2. Fly to USM (connect in BKK) - be there from Sunday 3/24 thru first days of pesach and shabbos chol hamoed.
3. Leave Sunday chol hamoed to BKK and spend last days there, and isru chag.
4. Thursday or friday fly to HKT and visit the islands etc. (stay in hkt ) for shabbos

5. since i need to fly back to US through the long way and on mileage ticket i have a stopover so im thinking of stopping in London over shabbos 4/13 and then flying back to LAX - and friend to JFK

any better way to do this? too little, too long time?

other countries, or stick to one?

FLYING: i have united miles and UR - should i find other miles or do my best with these.

i found going JFK-ZRH-BKK for next week in business. - return im not sure yet how thru london


Won't it be a better atmosphere for first days of pesach in cnx?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on March 19, 2013, 03:03:13 PM
Sale at Sheraton Krabi
http://deals.sheraton.com/Sheraton-Krabi-Beach-Resort-1438/SO.htm?ES=SM_FlyerTalk_SI_1438_Summer_Getaway_AP
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 21, 2013, 08:24:21 PM
where did u guys change money once in Thailand?? should i get bht before i go?? i have chase preferred  but what do i do when i need cash??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2013, 08:26:41 PM
where did u guys change money once in Thailand?? should i get bht before i go?? i have chase preferred  but what do i do when i need cash??
Use a no-forex debit card?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 21, 2013, 08:28:34 PM
Use a no-forex debit card?
dont have one  :(
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 21, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
Anyone in thailand now?

I'm here and for cash I changed in airport which barely is a diff from real rate and I took out from atm chase debit. It charged me about $5 fee and gave me a drop under the rate
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 21, 2013, 08:36:05 PM
Anyone in thailand now?

I'm here and for cash I changed in airport which barely is a diff from real rate and I took out from atm chase debit. It charged me about $5 fee and gave me a drop under the rate
gr8 thanks i guess its not like ben gurion with terrible rates!!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 21, 2013, 08:44:38 PM
Anyone in thailand now?

I'm here and for cash I changed in airport which barely is a diff from real rate and I took out from atm chase debit. It charged me about $5 fee and gave me a drop under the rate
coming in on apr 5
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 21, 2013, 08:46:02 PM
It charged me about $5 fee and gave me a drop under the rate
Some banks have accounts that reimburse that.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 22, 2013, 06:54:05 AM
coming in on apr 5
ill be in phuket then it seems
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 22, 2013, 10:32:12 AM
ill be in phuket then it seems
going to kaho lak / phuket on the the 7th and chiang mai on the 11th
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 22, 2013, 10:47:51 AM
None of the nice hotels are near Chabad

How far are they? Walkable?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on March 22, 2013, 10:53:38 AM
Anyone interested in another Thailand trip report?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 22, 2013, 10:54:07 AM
Anyone interested in another Thailand trip report?

Of course!

Where'd you go?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on March 22, 2013, 10:57:54 AM
bkk, cnx, kaho lak
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 22, 2013, 11:03:42 AM
bkk, cnx, kaho lak

Absolutely interested!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on March 22, 2013, 11:06:09 AM
I will work on it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on March 22, 2013, 11:14:33 AM
I will work on it.

Thanks- appreciate it!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on March 22, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
Def
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on March 22, 2013, 02:29:55 PM
Looking forward
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 23, 2013, 09:51:45 AM
going to kaho lak / phuket on the the 7th and chiang mai on the 11th
hey ill be around then, not sure yet where im staying.

maybe we can meet up :)

Anyone interested in another Thailand trip report?
forusure!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 24, 2013, 10:57:58 AM
hey ill be around then, not sure yet where im staying.

maybe we can meet up :)
forusure!
staying at le meridian kaho lak so if ur around forsure  :) dose any1 have a number or email for a driver to take me form phuket airport to kaho lak ???
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2013, 11:59:11 AM
Boss is who you want, I think his number has been posted in this thread.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 24, 2013, 12:26:15 PM
Boss is who you want, I think his number has been posted in this thread.
i emailed him he wanted 400 more bht then he charged u whats the deal with that??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on March 24, 2013, 12:30:05 PM
Beats me.
Inflation?
Did you ask him why?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 24, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
Beats me.
Inflation?
Did you ask him why?
ye and then he stopped answering my emails  :( so now im left with no one!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on March 24, 2013, 08:20:38 PM
Pay what boss is asking... That's obviously the going rate...

Even if you over pay by $10 it's worth it knowin you have someone reliable and trustworthy
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: M on March 25, 2013, 08:04:19 AM
Are there any direct flights from the west coast to Thailand?

Starting to think of a summer trip from NY to LA for a bit and then off to Asia. I have been to Thailand but I loved it and want to go back. Anyone have any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 25, 2013, 09:40:55 AM
Thai Airways.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on March 25, 2013, 09:44:38 AM
Thai Airways.
Very hard to find availability on that.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 25, 2013, 10:45:07 AM
Hard, yep. Not impossible.

Either way - just answering the question asked.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on March 25, 2013, 12:43:45 PM
Are there any direct flights from the west coast to Thailand?

Starting to think of a summer trip from NY to LA for a bit and then off to Asia. I have been to Thailand but I loved it and want to go back. Anyone have any other suggestions?
Thai Airways.

It's a direct flight with a stop in Seoul now only a few times a week.  They used to have a nonstop but they cut it not long ago.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: M on March 27, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
Hard, yep. Not impossible.

Either way - just answering the question asked.

Thanks, so has it been discontinued or not?

If there isn't direct anyone have any suggestions for a cool stopover spot?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 28, 2013, 01:05:46 AM
Dozens of places in the far east (and others) to stop on the way to BKK from USA:

ICN, SIN, HKG, NRT, KUL, CAN etc etc
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on March 28, 2013, 10:56:12 AM
hey im going to israel via Thailand and need a place to leave most of my luggage in bangkok dont want to shlepp it around thiland with me especially since air asia charges alot for check in dose one have any ideas dose the airport have lockers to keep stuff in for over a week??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: M on March 28, 2013, 07:41:12 PM
Dozens of places in the far east (and others) to stop on the way to BKK from USA:

ICN, SIN, HKG, NRT, KUL, CAN etc etc

Thanks! I think I would choose SIN out of those.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on March 29, 2013, 01:27:19 PM
Quote
hey im going to israel via Thailand and need a place to leave most of my luggage in bangkok dont want to shlepp it around thiland with me especially since air asia charges alot for check in dose one have any ideas dose the airport have lockers to keep stuff in for over a week??
They have lockers in bkk (one on the 2nd floor and one on the 4rh). They charge 100baht a day per pc.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 29, 2013, 08:40:02 PM
Recommendations for best SIM to buy for data use on iPhone 5 in Thailand?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on March 30, 2013, 08:54:21 AM
Recommendations for best SIM to buy for data use on iPhone 5 in Thailand?
u need a nano sim so u can either get dtac (they call it happy sim) and that's 300 baht and comes with 100 calling credit and 1 week unlimited 3g data and u can pay 200 baht a week after that for unlimited Internet.
Or u can get True move-H.  Make sure it's H bec that's the new sim and that has cheaper calling rates. 1baht a min to America and Thailand. I'm not sure data rate.
Then ull have to get it cut to nano - many stores do it - for 20-50 baht. Depending on ur bargaining skills :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 31, 2013, 01:30:03 AM
u need a nano sim so u can either get dtac (they call it happy sim) and that's 300 baht and comes with 100 calling credit and 1 week unlimited 3g data and u can pay 200 baht a week after that for unlimited Internet.
Or u can get True move-H.  Make sure it's H bec that's the new sim and that has cheaper calling rates. 1baht a min to America and Thailand. I'm not sure data rate.
Then ull have to get it cut to nano - many stores do it - for 20-50 baht. Depending on ur bargaining skills :)

Which do you recommend?

Where can I pick one up, basically anywhere in CNX?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on March 31, 2013, 06:33:31 PM
Anyone have the email address to the GM in Le Meridian CNX?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: M on April 03, 2013, 09:08:07 AM
Anyone have the email address to the GM in Le Meridian CNX?
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Was thinking of planning a trip a there as well....
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 03, 2013, 11:50:38 AM
Anyone ever have luck in getting the SPG properties to pay for kosher food for the Plat breakfast benefit?
Specifically the properties in KL, Krabi, and Phuket.
I've been in touch w/ KL, and they said they could arrange it, but I had to pay.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on April 03, 2013, 12:40:16 PM
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Anyone have the email address to the GM in Le Meridian CNX?
Unyamanee.Petcharut@lemeridien.com
She is the font office manager. She was able to confirm an upgrade to a suite for me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 03, 2013, 01:56:06 PM
I don't think anyone will arrange kosher food For free.. Based in my many trips

If they offer to arrange for payment it'll be trough chabad and will cost more than chanad charges directly
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 03, 2013, 03:01:35 PM
Unyamanee.Petcharut@lemeridien.com
She is the font office manager. She was able to confirm an upgrade to a suite for me.

Excellent.

Thanks so much. I'll cc her.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Glamette on April 10, 2013, 10:26:29 PM
Has anyone been to Bangkok's Don Muang airport? Is it easy to get to the city from there? There's no way for me to fly into Suvarnabhumi Airport  :(
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2013, 10:29:50 PM
Has anyone been to Bangkok's Don Muang airport? Is it easy to get to the city from there? There's no way for me to fly into Suvarnabhumi Airport  :(

They're both in Bangkok, about 35-45 mins away from one another.

Not much of a difference with respect to the city itself.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Glamette on April 10, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
They're both in Bangkok, about 35-45 mins away from one another.

Not much of a difference with respect to the city itself.

So DM also has the metro system? If I remember correctly its called the BTS.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 10, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
So DM also has the metro system? If I remember correctly its called the BTS.

http://www.transitbangkok.com/to_Bangkok_airport.html
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Glamette on April 10, 2013, 10:40:32 PM
http://www.transitbangkok.com/to_Bangkok_airport.html
Thanks :) this will def come in handy
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 11, 2013, 01:53:38 AM
Has anyone been to Bangkok's Don Muang airport? Is it easy to get to the city from there? There's no way for me to fly into Suvarnabhumi Airport  :(
DM airport is closer to the city then BKK - the meter is about 190 to DM and up to 250 +highway tolls 70 (if you take the highway) for BKK.

DM is not a bad airport although BKK is much bigger and nicer.
Airasia as i see your flying - they are very picky with luggage weight - check their website and act accordingly otherwise ull end up paying a lot
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 11, 2013, 05:01:52 PM
I would strongly recommend when at all possible avoid airasia.. if difference in price isn't too substantial..

they are extremely picky with weight and nickel and dime you on everything (including paying with CC).

I just had a problem, where after purchasing a ticket they changed the schedule, and due to connection I can no longer make it, and they refuse to refund my ticket..

I can try and dispute the charge with cc but I have other flights with them after this and dont want to risk them being cancelled..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 11, 2013, 05:02:29 PM
As a side note, Bangkok Air is much better... whenever possible fly them!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 11, 2013, 05:58:39 PM
As a side note, Bangkok Air is much better... whenever possible fly them!

...and much more expensive.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 11, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
Not always, also as you get closer to travel date, air asia goes up... I've many times booked with bangkok air and taking into consideration the baggage fees with Air Asia, it came out the same...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 11, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
Not always, also as you get closer to travel date, air asia goes up... I've many times booked with bangkok air and taking into consideration the baggage fees with Air Asia, it came out the same...

What about Bangkok Airways (PG), does it go up as travel date approaches?

PG is the only airline that flies to from CNX-USM non-stop and charge an arm and a leg.

I'm looking at paying $250 p/p for the one way  :o
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Glamette on April 11, 2013, 07:35:51 PM
DM airport is closer to the city then BKK - the meter is about 190 to DM and up to 250 +highway tolls 70 (if you take the highway) for BKK.

DM is not a bad airport although BKK is much bigger and nicer.
Airasia as i see your flying - they are very picky with luggage weight - check their website and act accordingly otherwise ull end up paying a lot

Everybody is going to have carry ons but share on checked bag..........I doubt this is a good idea. They give no leeway with baggage weight. :(
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on April 12, 2013, 01:07:23 AM
What about Bangkok Airways (PG), does it go up as travel date approaches?

PG is the only airline that flies to from CNX-USM non-stop and charge an arm and a leg.

I'm looking at paying $250 p/p for the one way  :o


Re Samui prices are always high.. Bangkok airways owns the airport there so they have a monopoly... I'm mostly referring to bkk-cnx routes and other cities aside from Samui
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 12, 2013, 04:54:30 AM
What about Bangkok Airways (PG), does it go up as travel date approaches?

PG is the only airline that flies to from CNX-USM non-stop and charge an arm and a leg.

I'm looking at paying $250 p/p for the one way  :o
thats good. if u wait till last minute ull end up paying what i paid. only when i got to CNX i went to buy the USM flight and non stop was sold out , so i had to fly thai air to BKK (i had a lot of bags so with *G it worked out) and left some bags there, had to stay the night in BKK then leave to airport at 4:30 am and fly Nok air to Nakhon Si Thammarat Airport (NST) from there take a bus an hour and a half to Surratthani dock and take an hour + boat ride to Samui! all for $250

Always book in advance if you know the dates forsure
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 12, 2013, 06:39:00 AM
With Bangkok Airways, many times business class is only marginally more expensive than coach so once youre paying $$$, may be worth upgrading to biz.

If you can stomach the Thailand kosher meals, youll get a snack box (sandwich +fruit) if you request (can be done online).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 12, 2013, 12:00:12 PM
thats good. if u wait till last minute ull end up paying what i paid. only when i got to CNX i went to buy the USM flight and non stop was sold out , so i had to fly thai air to BKK (i had a lot of bags so with *G it worked out) and left some bags there, had to stay the night in BKK then leave to airport at 4:30 am and fly Nok air to Nakhon Si Thammarat Airport (NST) from there take a bus an hour and a half to Surratthani dock and take an hour + boat ride to Samui! all for $250

Always book in advance if you know the dates forsure

Yikes. You're putting the $250 into perspective.

I was also thinking of redeeming an award from CNX-HKT and making my way either by cash ticket from HKT-USM, or booking a cash ticket from CNX to one of the airports closer than HKT (on mobile and don't recall the names) and then renting a car and driving.

Decisions,  decisions.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 12, 2013, 12:02:11 PM
Also, how much is the ferry?

Can the ferry transport cars?

Can you rent a car at either of those small airports close to USM?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 12, 2013, 12:59:54 PM
Also, how much is the ferry?

Can the ferry transport cars?

Can you rent a car at either of those small airports close to USM?

We transported a car from USM to Don sak via ferry. (and I scored a foot massage on the ferry)

I have not read the entire thread - but i remember flying OW - BKK-USM for $120
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 12, 2013, 01:49:10 PM
We transported a car from USM to Don sak via ferry. (and I scored a foot massage on the ferry)

Do you recall how much it was?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 12, 2013, 01:56:27 PM
 4-wheel car with driver - 470 baht
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 12, 2013, 01:57:29 PM
4-wheel car with driver - 470 baht

Oh, you werent driving yourself?

Where were you coming from?

Can you tell me your itin from wherever to USM?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 12, 2013, 02:04:09 PM
Oh, you werent driving yourself?

Where were you coming from?

Can you tell me your itin from wherever to USM?

That is the official price i found on the website.

IIRC, We hired a 12pax van with driver from Chaweng (the Israeli travel agency near the chabad house hooked it up) for about $150 to drive us (6 peeps) from Koh samui to Phuket.

my total itin if IIRC: BOM-BKK (1 day in BKK) BKK-USM (first days pesach + several days chol hamoed) USM-HKT via Ferry/Van (last days pesach in HKT) HKT-Koh Phi Phi via ferry. 2 weeks in Phi Phi i think. Ferry back to HKT - HKT-BKK flight (1 day in BKK) BKK-LON-NYC
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 12, 2013, 02:33:34 PM

Great - so there are definitely ferries which transport cars to and from USM, that's good to know.

Now I just need to figure out whether to:

1) skip the hassle and simply fly non-stop from CNX-USM for $275ish OW (plus taxi to Conrad);
2) fly CNX-DMK-URT/NST on AirAsia for ~$100, and then rent a car to ferry for ~$185 (but won't have to pay for taxi to Conrad);
3) fly CNX-DMK-URT/NST on AirAsia for ~$100, and then bus it to the ferry for probably $165 (plus taxi to Conrad)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2013, 02:55:51 PM
That is the official price i found on the website.

IIRC, We hired a 12pax van with driver from Chaweng (the Israeli travel agency near the chabad house hooked it up) for about $150 to drive us (6 peeps) from Koh samui to Phuket.

my total itin if IIRC: BOM-BKK (1 day in BKK) BKK-USM (first days pesach + several days chol hamoed) USM-HKT via Ferry/Van (last days pesach in HKT) HKT-Koh Phi Phi via ferry. 2 weeks in Phi Phi i think. Ferry back to HKT - HKT-BKK flight (1 day in BKK) BKK-LON-NYC
TR please?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 12, 2013, 03:15:35 PM
TR please?
First of all, i cant remember the trip anymore....Second, hasn't everyone been there already?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2013, 03:25:19 PM
I haven't read any Koh Phi Phi reports here.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on April 12, 2013, 03:37:41 PM
I haven't ready any Koh Phi Phi reports here.
OK You win, will post a short one.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
OK You win, will post a short one.
Nice, with some pics please.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on April 12, 2013, 05:25:36 PM
Great - so there are definitely ferries which transport cars to and from USM, that's good to know.

Now I just need to figure out whether to:

1) skip the hassle and simply fly non-stop from CNX-USM for $275ish OW (plus taxi to Conrad);
2) fly CNX-DMK-URT/NST on AirAsia for ~$100, and then rent a car to ferry for ~$185 (but won't have to pay for taxi to Conrad);
3) fly CNX-DMK-URT/NST on AirAsia for ~$100, and then bus it to the ferry for probably $165 (plus taxi to Conrad)

Thoughts?

Try taking a flight from CNX-HKT-USM. See what the prices and options are.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 12, 2013, 05:41:03 PM
Try taking a flight from CNX-HKT-USM. See what the prices and options are.

GMTA :)

Last I checked, which was about a week ago, it came out to be around the same price.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 13, 2013, 03:39:11 PM
I haven't read any Koh Phi Phi reports here.
im gonna write one in my big TR.

@AJK my ferry was included by the israeli TA.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 13, 2013, 09:03:35 PM
Great - so there are definitely ferries which transport cars to and from USM, that's good to know.

Now I just need to figure out whether to:

1) skip the hassle and simply fly non-stop from CNX-USM for $275ish OW (plus taxi to Conrad);
2) fly CNX-DMK-URT/NST on AirAsia for ~$100, and then rent a car to ferry for ~$185 (but won't have to pay for taxi to Conrad);
3) fly CNX-DMK-URT/NST on AirAsia for ~$100, and then bus it to the ferry for probably $165 (plus taxi to Conrad)

Thoughts?

Perhaps I'll just do option 1, and then cancel it for about $30/pp if availability opens on TG for the flights we want.

Seems like the best way to go. I don't think it's worth $200 to have to travel an additional 4-5 hours.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 13, 2013, 10:34:27 PM
Perhaps I'll just do option 1, and then cancel it for about $30/pp if availability opens on TG for the flights we want.

Seems like the best way to go. I don't think it's worth $200 to have to travel an additional 4-5 hours.
Good decision. When on vacations w/ limited time available, it's not worth hocking around.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 14, 2013, 04:21:03 AM
Perhaps I'll just do option 1, and then cancel it for about $30/pp if availability opens on TG for the flights we want.

Seems like the best way to go. I don't think it's worth $200 to have to travel an additional 4-5 hours.
thats what i would do

Good decision. When on vacations w/ limited time available, it's not worth hocking around.
+1 thats what i did many times on this trip because i was pressed for time.
other tourists i met were there for 3+ months and they were taking it easy, taking 18 hour bus/train rides etc
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 14, 2013, 01:51:02 PM

+1 thats what i did many times on this trip because i was pressed for time.
other tourists i met were there for 3+ months and they were taking it easy, taking 18 hour bus/train rides etc
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And I'm sure that's also an experience, but not one worth experiencing when you only have a week.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 15, 2013, 03:07:35 AM
I would strongly recommend when at all possible avoid airasia.. if difference in price isn't too substantial..

they are extremely picky with weight and nickel and dime you on everything (including paying with CC).

I just had a problem, where after purchasing a ticket they changed the schedule, and due to connection I can no longer make it, and they refuse to refund my ticket..

I can try and dispute the charge with cc but I have other flights with them after this and dont want to risk them being cancelled..
i by mistake booked hkk cnx instead of hkk phuket and called up they said ull have to by a new ticket! so i emailed tonyfernandes@airasia.com hes the ceo of airasia wikki him if ud like and sent a long msg about website malfunctions  (which was true website kept shutting down as i was trying to book) and how im flying on a budget......to make a long story short i got the money back and he responded with in 5 min and forwarded me to someone who took care of it
dosnt hurt to give it a try
good luck
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 15, 2013, 03:23:10 AM
i by mistake booked hkk cnx instead of hkk phuket and called up they said ull have to by a new ticket! so i emailed tonyfernandes@airasia.com hes the ceo of airasia wikki him if ud like and sent a long msg about website malfunctions  (which was true website kept shutting down as i was trying to book) and how im flying on a budget......to make a long story short i got the money back and he responded with in 5 min and forwarded me to someone who took care of it
dosnt hurt to give it a try
good luck
i meant bkk to cnx instead of bkk to phuket
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 15, 2013, 03:28:57 AM
i have a flight from bkk to hkk on thai airways  business which is a dividen miles ticket booked through us air ways
now i flew the first half of the flight to bkk on thai 1st and had to settle for buisness on the return due to availability is there a way for me to get on to 1st
if seats open up??? (and they did i called) us airways says since i flew one leg of the trip im no longer able to change!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 15, 2013, 03:45:58 AM
i have a flight from bkk to hkk on thai airways  business which is a dividen miles ticket booked through us air ways
now i flew the first half of the flight to bkk on thai 1st and had to settle for buisness on the return due to availability is there a way for me to get on to 1st
if seats open up??? (and they did i called) us airways says since i flew one leg of the trip im no longer able to change!!
I don't think you can make changes to us airways tickets once travel started
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 15, 2013, 08:21:52 AM
i have a flight from bkk to hkk on thai airways  business which is a dividen miles ticket booked through us air ways
now i flew the first half of the flight to bkk on thai 1st and had to settle for buisness on the return due to availability is there a way for me to get on to 1st
if seats open up??? (and they did i called) us airways says since i flew one leg of the trip im no longer able to change!!

No changes to US Airways tix after travel commences. But I'm not sure if COS upgrades constitute a "change..."
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 18, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
just got back from Thailand hong kong Beijing trip it was awesome thanks to all ur help!!!
ddf rocks!!!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Devorah on April 18, 2013, 01:53:33 AM
just got back from Thailand hong kong Beijing trip it was awesome thanks to all ur help!!!
ddf rocks!!!!
trip report?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 18, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
just got back from Thailand hong kong Beijing trip it was awesome thanks to all ur help!!!
ddf rocks!!!!
welcome back, and as Devorah said, we expect a TR
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 18, 2013, 11:21:18 AM
welcome back, and as Devorah said, we expect a TR
did pretty much what every1 els did but ill put together a list of things i think would be help full when i get a chance.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 18, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
Did anybody go to the four season tent camp or know s/o that went ?
Is it that price or there are specials out there for this resort ?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 18, 2013, 11:17:13 PM
Did anybody go to the four season tent camp or know s/o that went ?

Yes; not cheap.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 18, 2013, 11:24:13 PM
Yes; not cheap.
like the prices that they are asking for ($650) or a discounted price?
How was it !was it something special ,on ft there are mixed reviews?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 18, 2013, 11:26:08 PM
I heard it was worth every penny (of which many are required).

I don't recall reading any bad reviews. Most have been stellar IIRC.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 18, 2013, 11:42:20 PM
Thanks but for $650 a night I'll pass rather save it for that one time in mle !
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 04:52:43 AM
Ok, so here goes it all. i am trying to work out a trip this summer to Thailand/Asia. I only have 1 week, since i cant leave my son fo more than that. i am hoping to go the day after t'bav for 7-8 days.

i am trying to figure out where to go. It seems like from the general that i have spoken to that i should go to BKK, and Shang Mau, (phuket, was the other option, bu everyone says Shang mau is much nicer and better) i obviously cant do more bec of the time restraint (unless someone thinks my wife and i can do more, then pls say)

i am not sure where to be for shabb?


thanks so much in advance for the help!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 19, 2013, 06:50:56 AM
and Shang Mau
really?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 07:19:55 AM
really?
Sorry. I meant Chiang Mai. Forgive me
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: world2see on April 19, 2013, 08:06:59 AM
Ok, so here goes it all. i am trying to work out a trip this summer to Thailand/Asia. I only have 1 week, since i cant leave my son fo more than that. i am hoping to go the day after t'bav for 7-8 days.

i am trying to figure out where to go. It seems like from the general that i have spoken to that i should go to BKK, and Shang Mau, (phuket, was the other option, bu everyone says Shang mau is much nicer and better) i obviously cant do more bec of the time restraint (unless someone thinks my wife and i can do more, then pls say)

i am not sure where to be for shabb?


thanks so much in advance for the help!
speak to my brother in law in your building,was there last summer, i was in phuket,hkg and beijing if you need any help:)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 19, 2013, 08:36:05 AM
Sorry. I meant Chiang Mai. Forgive me
chiang mai is a way nicer cleaner version of bkk so if u go there no point going to bkk and shabb there was really nice i preferred it over the one in bkk
and you have the lm hotel thats awesome there
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 08:42:52 AM
speak to my brother in law in your building,was there last summer, i was in phuket,hkg and beijing if you need any help:)
yes i spoke to him and will continue to. Thanks i def will call if i need help!!
chiang mai is a way nicer cleaner version of bkk so if u go there no point going to bkk and shabb there was really nice i preferred it over the one in bkk
and you have the lm hotel thats awesome there
i was trying to look for tickets to Chiang Mai but they all stop in Bkk. So is it worth it for me to then go to Chiang Mai or just go to bkk for the weekend then Phuket for the rest of my trip.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 19, 2013, 09:10:08 AM
yes i spoke to him and will continue to. Thanks i def will call if i need help!!i was trying to look for tickets to Chiang Mai but they all stop in Bkk. So is it worth it for me to then go to Chiang Mai or just go to bkk for the weekend then Phuket for the rest of my trip.
if u could get a connecting flight right away now that iv been to bkk i would go skip it. and i didnt spend anytime in phuket when straight to kaho lak and it was amazing the lm there is unbelievable
from what i hear phuket is very touristy and not that nice 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 09:28:39 AM
if u could get a connecting flight right away now that iv been to bkk i would go skip it. and i didnt spend anytime in phuket when straight to kaho lak and it was amazing the lm there is unbelievable
from what i hear phuket is very touristy and not that nice 
seems like world2see and Andrew swear by Phuket. And FIFi islands and so on. But I've never been to bkk. Maybe i should just spend shabb in bkk then Sunday to weds in Phuket or Chiang Mai

Or do i fly in bkk spend the full day there. Then fly to Chiang Mai for shabb and Sunday Monday. And tues weds in Phuket and weds night/thurs fly back.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 19, 2013, 09:31:30 AM
phuket + summer = not a good idea
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 19, 2013, 09:55:12 AM
And FIFi islands
really?

phuket + summer = not a good idea
+1
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 10:03:36 AM
really?
+1
so CBS. If you were going with a wife for one week to Thailand in the summer....where would you go.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 19, 2013, 10:17:11 AM
seems like world2see and Andrew swear by Phuket. And FIFi islands and so on. But I've never been to bkk. Maybe i should just spend shabb in bkk then Sunday to weds in Phuket or Chiang Mai

Or do i fly in bkk spend the full day there. Then fly to Chiang Mai for shabb and Sunday Monday. And tues weds in Phuket and weds night/thurs fly back.
i would get a direct flight from bkk without spending the night there go straight to cnx for shabb food there was better on shabb and then go on to wherever but thats only what i think
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 10:24:32 AM
i would get a direct flight from bkk without spending the night there go straight to cnx for shabb food there was better on shabb and then go on to wherever but thats only what i think
i appreciate the advice!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 19, 2013, 10:38:48 AM
so CBS. If you were going with a wife for one week to Thailand in the summer....where would you go.
You missed the point. You wrote FIFi... What's FIFi? It phi phi islands.. (pronounced pee pee). Israelis say fee fee. Let's Stay American :)

Anyway, Idk if I'd go with my wife to thailand to tell you the truth. But Idk who my wife is so it's not forsure :))

What I suggest is as others are saying, if u don't have much time then skip bkk. If you really want to see bkk then find a nice long  hour stopover or overnight and do that. And I've never been to khao lake so Idk what's there but u can go to phi phi islands or Koh samui. If you want something touristy and nice go to phi phi. Otherwise Koh samui over phuket IMO
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 19, 2013, 10:40:09 AM
Let ya know in a couple weeks. Will be in HKG, CNX, USM, and possibly BKK or SIN.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 19, 2013, 10:42:17 AM
Let ya know in a couple weeks. Will be in HKG, CNX, USM, and possibly BKK or SIN.
awesome. Does it depend on availability for bkk or sin?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 10:42:34 AM
You missed the point. You wrote FIFi... What's FIFi? It phi phi islands.. (pronounced pee pee). Israelis say fee fee. Let's Stay American :)

Anyway, Idk if I'd go with my wife to thailand to tell you the truth. But Idk who my wife is so it's not forsure :))

What I suggest is as others are saying, if u don't have much time then skip bkk. If you really want to see bkk then find a nice long  hour stopover or overnight and do that. And I've never been to khao lake so Idk what's there but u can go to phi phi islands or Koh samui. If you want something touristy and nice go to phi phi. Otherwise Koh samui over phuket IMO
You pulling a moish (and not batchy)...got it :D

i dont particularly want to go to bkk, but it will have to be a stop to phuket, chiang mai, koh samui.

so one week, where to and for how long? first time,
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 10:43:51 AM
Let ya know in a couple weeks. Will be in HKG, CNX, USM, and possibly BKK or SIN.
united? nice! eNjoy! and i would like to book sooner than later, bec i will have a lot of phone calls to el al to make
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 19, 2013, 10:52:57 AM
awesome. Does it depend on availability for bkk or sin?

Or HKG, but yeah. I'm not worried.

united? nice! eNjoy! and i would like to book sooner than later, bec i will have a lot of phone calls to el al to make

United? Miles? No, not necessarily. I'll post when it's final.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 10:54:56 AM
Or HKG, but yeah. I'm not worried.

United? Miles? No, not necessarily. I'll post when it's final.
i was asking bec, from TLV, theres really no good options for award travel,

el al is holding all flights
united only has 5 hr stops in zurich and then another in bkk
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 19, 2013, 11:38:46 AM
i got to bkk from tlv by going
tlv-amm rj
amm-dxb rj
dxb-hkg cx
hkg-bkk cx
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 19, 2013, 11:43:28 AM
i got to bkk from tlv by going
tlv-amm rj
amm-dxb rj
dxb-hkg cx
hkg-bkk cx
thanks  i will look more on sat night
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 12:45:01 PM
Anyone taken a taxi from CNX to Le Meridien?

How much? The hotel is offering:

(  ) Toyota Camry at THB 550.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)
(  ) Mercedes Benz at THB 950.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2013, 12:49:36 PM
Anyone taken a taxi from CNX to Le Meridien?

How much? The hotel is offering:

(  ) Toyota Camry at THB 550.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)
(  ) Mercedes Benz at THB 950.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)

120 for a taxi.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 21, 2013, 12:52:12 PM
definitely take a taxi and get his number. there arent really that many regular taxis to hail in chiang mai. we used our airport taxi to take us to all the various attractions
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 12:54:46 PM
120 for a taxi.

definitely take a taxi and get his number. there arent really that many regular taxis to hail in chiang mai. we used our airport taxi to take us to all the various attractions

Excellent. Thanks, guys.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 21, 2013, 12:54:55 PM
120 for a taxi.
+1
Meter only.

Thailand is just one of those places you don't rent a car. Besides the crazy driving and the fact that you'll probably get lost, it's very cheap and they're everywhere. You don't have to wait for one, there's always one when u need it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 21, 2013, 12:59:47 PM
Btw if you ever get around to talking to the shliach there while eating in the restaurant, besides the fact that he's a great guy, he also enjoys talking about credit cards and miles etc.

He started asking me about my trip and points etc and I realized he knew his stuff. So I asked him where he knows his info from and he said dansdeals! And he tells me when Dan was there he gave him a crash course :)) and since, he's gotten a nice few cc's.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 01:01:31 PM
Btw if you ever get around to talking to the shliach there while eating in the restaurant, besides the fact that he's a great guy, he also enjoys talking about credit cards and miles etc.

He started asking me about my trip and points etc and I realized he knew his stuff. So I asked him where he knows his info from and he said dansdeals! And he tells me when Dan was there he gave him a crash course :)) and since, he's gotten a nice few cc's.

I'd be happy to shmooze with him. I'll likely be eating there a bunch :)

Frankly, at this point, my wife may be able to shmooze with him!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2013, 01:06:00 PM
definitely take a taxi and get his number. there arent really that many regular taxis to hail in chiang mai. we used our airport taxi to take us to all the various attractions
There will be a number of taxis that will come up to you.
Try to negotiate a flat rate for them taking you to the attractions and see who gives you the best rate and make arrangements.
IIRC we paid 800 for the whole day.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 21, 2013, 01:12:00 PM
There will be a number of taxis that will come up to you.
Try to negotiate a flat rate for them taking you to the attractions and see who gives you the best rate and make arrangements.
IIRC we paid 800 for the whole day.
I got him the guy that took me to chabad from airport to give me a rate for 600 for day. And he spoke a decent English which you don't see often.
I didn't end up taking him since I did an organized trip but his number is : 083-152-8506 (country code +66)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 01:14:11 PM
Which Elephant shows/camps did you guys go to?

There are so many...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 21, 2013, 01:21:34 PM
Which Elephant shows/camps did you guys go to?

There are so many...
I didn't go to a show. I went on a trip that included (white) water rafting,  bamboo rafting, elephant rides,  see long neck tribe and go to a butterfly and orchid farm.
I can't say it was an amazing trip. The elephants were cool and u sit on a bench and u can feed them bananas which is cool and nasty at the same time. Both rafting bored me, the butterfly /orchid was really dumb and long neck was cool.
There's another elephant trip which is all day on elephants and u sit on the actual elephant and play in water etc.. I didn't do that which I prob should have.

I don't know the name of both bec it was an organized trip that the agent had.
If you want good info about trips go to the Israeli guy "yisrael" that's Litterly next door to chabad and he's very nice and we'll help u in everything. Although I realized he charges a few more dollars then ur average thai agent.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 01:23:47 PM
I didn't go to a show. I went on a trip that included (white) water rafting,  bamboo rafting, elephant rides,  see long neck tribe and go to a butterfly and orchid farm.
I can't say it was an amazing trip. The elephants were cool and u sit on a bench and u can feed them bananas which is cool and nasty at the same time. Both rafting bored me, the butterfly /orchid was really dumb and long neck was cool.
There's another elephant trip which is all day on elephants and u sit on the actual elephant and play in water etc.. I didn't do that which I prob should have.

I don't know the name of both bec it was an organized trip that the agent had.
If you want good info about trips go to the Israeli guy "yisrael" that's Litterly next door to chabad and he's very nice and we'll help u in everything. Although I realized he charges a few more dollars then ur average thai agent.

Yeah, I was thinking we would do the all day elephant trip/ride/show etc.

I'll definitely run my itin by Yisrael, but I'd like to have it somewhat narrowed down before I go. Thanks for the contact.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2013, 01:25:03 PM
Which Elephant shows/camps did you guys go to?

There are so many...
Should be in my TR, was an awesome show.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Should be in my TR, was an awesome show.

Read it -- don't think its clear which you did, unless there is only one right next to tiger kingdom?

Also, could you have done the show/ride for the whole day if you wanted? Doesn't seem like you did (or could?)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on April 21, 2013, 01:29:00 PM
i got to bkk from tlv by going
tlv-amm rj
amm-dxb rj
dxb-hkg cx
hkg-bkk cx
what class?how was it?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2013, 01:44:56 PM
Read it -- don't think its clear which you did, unless there is only one right next to tiger kingdom?

Also, could you have done the show/ride for the whole day if you wanted? Doesn't seem like you did (or could?)
Looks like I stuck in under the pictures, "Mae Sa Elephant Show"
We did the show and ride.  Definitely didn't take the whole day, maybe a few hours.

From what we heard Mae Sa is the best show but there are better places where you can actually ride on the elephant and not on a carriage on an elephant but we were too time constrained to go there.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 01:50:53 PM
Looks like I stuck in under the pictures, "Mae Sa Elephant Show"
We did the show and ride.  Definitely didn't take the whole day, maybe a few hours.

From what we heard Mae Sa is the best show but there are better places where you can actually ride on the elephant and not on a carriage on an elephant but we were too time constrained to go there.

Ah, yes, you also went to Mae Sa? I've read about it on TA.

But I've also read about this place (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g293917-d808754-Reviews-Patara_Elephant_Farm-Chiang_Mai.html), which has gotten the most sterling reviews I think I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2013, 02:03:13 PM
Looks great, doesn't seem to be a replacement for the Mae Sa show as much as a replacement for the Mae Sa ride.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 02:06:41 PM
Looks great, doesn't seem to be a replacement for the Mae Sa show as much as a replacement for the Mae Sa ride.

I agree. From the comments, it looks like a totally different kind of excursion.

Were the Mae Sa ride and show billed differently such that I could see the show there and do the ride elsewhere?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 21, 2013, 02:09:25 PM
120 for a taxi.
150 now 10 - 15 min ride
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2013, 02:09:43 PM
Were the Mae Sa ride and show billed differently such that I could see the show there and do the ride elsewhere?
Yes.
If you have the time I'd definitely do it that way.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 21, 2013, 02:10:05 PM
150 now 10 - 15 min ride
My guess is you can bargain for 120 flat.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 21, 2013, 02:32:31 PM
i used a guy a few doors down from chabad his name was rafi i felt better giving a jew the money even if he was a bit more expencive he charged me 800 bht for the day took me to monkeys tiger cobra and crocodile had a comfy pick up truck and spoke English
and funny you mention i actually met the rabbi from chiang mai at the lm kaho lak booked on points   
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 21, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
and try to avoid going to orchat garden and village tours complete waist of time im pretty sure u could do elaphent and long neck in one day trip and all the other animals in another day trip
the elephant camp we when to also came with bamboo rafting ox cart ride elephant ride and show was a pretty solid place 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 02:41:52 PM
and try to avoid going to orchat garden and village tours complete waist of time im pretty sure u could do elaphent and long neck in one day trip and all the other animals in another day trip
the elephant camp we when to also came with bamboo rafting ox cart ride elephant ride and show was a pretty solid place

Which elephant camp did you go to?

Where's your TR???
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 21, 2013, 02:47:28 PM
Which elephant camp did you go to?

Where's your TR???
did pretty much what everybody els did so dont think theres a need for a TR im not sure the name of the elephant camp the guy that i mentioned rafi sent me there
he charged me $240 for 3 days of day trips each one from about 8am till 430pm
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 02:49:20 PM
did pretty much what everybody els did so dont think theres a need for a TR im not sure the name of the elephant camp the guy that i mentioned rafi sent me there
he charged me $240 for 3 days of day trips each one from about 8am till 430pm

How your trip was structured, where you stayed, what you did each day -- all valuable... don't be lazy (or a leach!) :P

Did the $240 include the activities? Or just transportation?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 21, 2013, 02:50:27 PM
How your trip was structured, where you stayed, what you did each day -- all valuable... don't be lazy (or a leach!) :P

Did the $240 include the activities? Or just transportation?
+1 tr please
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 21, 2013, 03:04:13 PM
150 now 10 - 15 min ride
i was there 2 weeks before you and my meter said 96 THB to chabad :P - which down the block from la meridean

and i paid an extra 50 thb at airport for the taxi. - but i think u can get off the 50 THB if you walk to the parking lot to the left of arrivals and get your own taxi. (but again thats $1.66 so...)

did pretty much what everybody els did so dont think theres a need for a TR im not sure the name of the elephant camp the guy that i mentioned rafi sent me there
he charged me $240 for 3 days of day trips each one from about 8am till 430pm
i think $240 is a lot. i paid for 3 days of trips - inclu. transportation and fruits for lunch around $150

i saw rafi store which is 2 doors left from yisrael whos next door to chabad. the guys at chabad told me to go to Yisrael , (a side note - hes shomer shabbos)

@ AJK - look into the ziplining there. its really cool and an expierence. theres Flight of the gibbon and Flying Squirrel - i did Flying Squirrel. theyre basically the same thing. 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 21, 2013, 03:12:32 PM
what class?how was it?
business, great
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 21, 2013, 03:16:49 PM
i went on the elephant ride at maesa, took the shortest one, maybe half hour. it was definitely more than enough time
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 21, 2013, 03:19:03 PM
How your trip was structured, where you stayed, what you did each day -- all valuable... don't be lazy (or a leach!) :P

Did the $240 include the activities? Or just transportation?
haha kk heres the TR landed in bkk fri morning thai air 1st class = amazing!!!! stayed at holtel across from chabbad called Viengtai decent ac worked had a pool the basics.shabb chabad. sunday morning flew air asia to phuket stayed at Lm kaho lak didnt pick up food first on the way cause i figured i would go in to phuket for the day anyway to check it out but the resort was so nice that i didnt want to waist the day in a car!! luckily i met the rabbi from chiang mai he had a car and was driving in to phuket anyway so i ordered food and he brought it back for me = really nice guy!!!!
stayed at kaho lak from sunday through wensday wensday night flew to chiang mai air asia again stayed at the lm  thursday did all the animal shows and tiger kingdom (payed the guy in the cage 50 bht took GR8 pics  no need to spend 300bht for the "professional" ones )
   fri took a day trip in a ten seater van with a guide to the long necks some other village some cave and orchat garden everything besides the long necks was a complete waist of time and money kinda upsetting
shabbas at chabad  was gr8
sunday did the elephant camp also in the van once i was on the way the guide mentions that where also heading to the long necks and orcht garden since some of the other ppl on the tour payed for it
so we got him to drop us off after the elephant camp to a place and we where able to get a cab back
monday afternoon took bangkok air back to bkk sign up for there ff program and get a extra 10 k of luggage :)
since we where on the way to israel we kept all our luggage and the Viengtai hotel for 30 bht a day per bag so we when back there for monday night
tues morn flew thai air business to hongkong but thats for a diff thread :)   
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 21, 2013, 03:22:35 PM
i was there 2 weeks before you and my meter said 96 THB to chabad :P - which down the block from la meridean

and i paid an extra 50 thb at airport for the taxi. - but i think u can get off the 50 THB if you walk to the parking lot to the left of arrivals and get your own taxi. (but again thats $1.66 so...)
i think $240 is a lot. i paid for 3 days of trips - inclu. transportation and fruits for lunch around $150

i saw rafi store which is 2 doors left from yisrael whos next door to chabad. the guys at chabad told me to go to Yisrael , (a side note - hes shomer shabbos)

@ AJK - look into the ziplining there. its really cool and an expierence. theres Flight of the gibbon and Flying Squirrel - i did Flying Squirrel. theyre basically the same thing.
mine was including transportation they also referred me next door and all i saw was rafi guess i missed this yisrael guy could be i over payed   
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 03:39:25 PM
AJK, how long are you spending in CNX?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 03:51:21 PM
@ AJK - look into the ziplining there. its really cool and an expierence. theres Flight of the gibbon and Flying Squirrel - i did Flying Squirrel. theyre basically the same thing.

Yep, flight of the gibbon is on the itin :)

Maybe I'll organize everything through this Yisrael guy? Does he have an email? Speak english well?

AJK, how long are you spending in CNX?

Wednesday afternoon to Monday afternoon.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 03:51:55 PM
Ajk i found on jet setter a deal for Phuket. I didnt look into it Et, just have to get to a computer but here.

http://m.jetsetter.com/hotels/thailand/phuket/3246/the-village-coconut-island
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 03:55:13 PM
haha kk heres the TR landed in bkk fri morning thai air 1st class = amazing!!!! stayed at holtel across from chabbad called Viengtai decent ac worked had a pool the basics.shabb chabad. sunday morning flew air asia to phuket stayed at Lm kaho lak didnt pick up food first on the way cause i figured i would go in to phuket for the day anyway to check it out but the resort was so nice that i didnt want to waist the day in a car!! luckily i met the rabbi from chiang mai he had a car and was driving in to phuket anyway so i ordered food and he brought it back for me = really nice guy!!!!
stayed at kaho lak from sunday through wensday wensday night flew to chiang mai air asia again stayed at the lm  thursday did all the animal shows and tiger kingdom (payed the guy in the cage 50 bht took GR8 pics  no need to spend 300bht for the "professional" ones )
   fri took a day trip in a ten seater van with a guide to the long necks some other village some cave and orchat garden everything besides the long necks was a complete waist of time and money kinda upsetting
shabbas at chabad  was gr8
sunday did the elephant camp also in the van once i was on the way the guide mentions that where also heading to the long necks and orcht garden since some of the other ppl on the tour payed for it
so we got him to drop us off after the elephant camp to a place and we where able to get a cab back
monday afternoon took bangkok air back to bkk sign up for there ff program and get a extra 10 k of luggage :)
since we where on the way to israel we kept all our luggage and the Viengtai hotel for 30 bht a day per bag so we when back there for monday night
tues morn flew thai air business to hongkong but thats for a diff thread :)

This will have to do, thanks :)

What plane did you fly into BKK? From where? (I want to see if it was the new F or not...)

How much was Shabbas meals in CNX chabad?

What are "long necks?" Giraffes?

I was wondering about the professional photos -- both you and Dan and others just recommend tipping an employee. That seals it for me.

Good tip about signing up for Bangkok Air's FF prog for 10kg extra!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 03:55:56 PM
Ajk i found on jet setter a deal for Phuket. I didnt look into it Et, just have to get to a computer but here.

http://m.jetsetter.com/hotels/thailand/phuket/3246/the-village-coconut-island

We're skipping HKT this time 'round. So no use for us, but thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: zvmiester on April 21, 2013, 04:00:07 PM
This will have to do, thanks :)

What plane did you fly into BKK? From where? (I want to see if it was the new F or not...)

How much was Shabbas meals in CNX chabad?

What are "long necks?" Giraffes?

I was wondering about the professional photos -- both you and Dan and others just recommend tipping an employee. That seals it for me.

Good tip about signing up for Bangkok Air's FF prog for 10kg extra!
newwork to london london to bkk
bkk to hongkong i was on a new plane the 2 story one but they had no availability on 1st so business had to do
long necks are a tribe google them 
chabad meals free but i gave a donation at the end of the trip to each his own
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 04:01:47 PM
We're skipping HKT this time 'round. So no use for us, but thanks anyway.
oops. Thought you were. Anyone. Is this worth it?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
Yep, flight of the gibbon is on the itin :)

Maybe I'll organize everything through this Yisrael guy? Does he have an email? Speak english well?

Wednesday afternoon to Monday afternoon.
Nice!

Flight of the Gibbon is great! (Email them to confirm but you should get a discount for using your own transportation which should be around the same youll be paying per day for your driver so definitely worth it).

If you want the real elephant riding without breaking the bank, the 2 hour tour here is perfect, http://thaielephanthome.com/

Do the Tiger Kingdom in the morning (when they open) and you can do the Snake farm and the Monkey Show (personally not a fan) and then go onto the Elephant show.

Sat/Sun Night Markets are very Thailand.

Long Neck Tribe is interesting. Obviously theyre all trying to sell things.Probably nice to buy something if youre coming to gawk at them. Usually very happy to take pics with you.

You shouldnt pay more than 700THB/day for a driver though you can try and negotiate if you are taking multiple days.

Do all the activities in CNX and just relax in USM (Unless you like partying, it can get pretty crazy).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 04:13:03 PM
Nice!

Flight of the Gibbon is great!

If you want the real elephant riding without breaking the bank, the 2 hour tour here is perfect, http://thaielephanthome.com/

Do the Tiger Kingdom in the morning (when they open) and you can do the Snake farm and the Monkey Show (personally not a fan) and then go onto the Elephant show.

Sat/Sun Night Markets are very Thailand.

Long Neck Tribe is interesting. Obviously theyre all trying to sell things.Probably nice to buy something if youre coming to gawk at them. Usually very happy to take pics with you.

You shouldnt pay more than 700THB/day for a driver though you can try and negotiate if you are taking multiple days.

Do all the activities in CNX and just relax in USM (Unless you like partying, it can get pretty crazy).

GMTA :)

Thanks for the thoughts.

I actually just decided on the Thai Elephant Home, but was thinking about doing the full day thing for 4500 BHT (yes, it's more expensive than the 2 hour, but the reviews are also stellar).

So maybe I'm thinking the following:

One day at Thai Elephant Home;
One day doing, as you said below, tiger kingdom, elephant show, snake farm and monkey show;
One day doing,  Segway gibbon and flight of the gibbon;
Saturday and Sunday night markets;
and, if I can fit it in a half day/day of rock climbing/caving (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g293917-d1504271-Reviews-Chiang_Mai_Rock_Climbing_Adventures-Chiang_Mai.html)

And then 4 days of relaxing in USM :)

ETA: Great tip about asking for discount for my own transportation, especially because we'd both be in the same car!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 04:18:44 PM
In 2 hours they show you how to get on/off and ride them, stop/starting, turning etc. Then they take you down to the river where you get to clean them/play with them for an hour. Actually riding them isnt so pleasant after a couple hours.
But the full day definitely gets you a lot more. Rolling in the mud with elephants does make for some good memories (and hilarious photos)

If you want something a little relaxing, theres the boat ride, http://www.maepingrivercruise.com/

Of course, get a massage.

And if you want something with a little more action, ATVing, http://www.atv-chiangmai-tours.com/ and Extreme Sports/Bungee Jumping, http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 04:22:21 PM
If you want something a little relaxing, theres the boat ride, http://www.maepingrivercruise.com/

Of course, get a massage.

And if you want something with a little more action, ATVing, http://www.atv-chiangmai-tours.com/ and Extreme Sports/Bungee Jumping, http://www.chiangmai-xcentre.com/

The reviews of xcentre on TA are horrific... but the ATVs look very cool.

As far as massage, I don't recall, but I may or may not have promised my wife a massage upon waking, and a massage prior to retiring :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 04:25:06 PM
The reviews of xcentre on TA are horrific... but the ATVs look very call.

As far as massage, I don't recall, but I may or may not have promised my wife a massage upon waking, and a massage prior to retiring :)
If do Bungee Jumping, if they ask if you if you want to have your head dunked in the water, know you will get soaked and take off your shirt or bring a spare.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
If do Bungee Jumping, if they ask if you if you want to have your head dunked in the water, know you will get soaked and take off your shirt or bring a spare.

I guess you did it?

I don't think we'll be doing it here... we're hoping to do it here (http://www.ajhackett.com/macau/)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 04:31:20 PM
I guess you did it?

I don't think we'll be doing it here... we're hoping to do it here (http://www.ajhackett.com/macau/)  ;D ;D
Thats waaay cooler.

Though gotta go to NZ for the original and most awesome bungee jumping.

Nepal looks cool as well.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 21, 2013, 04:34:21 PM
for flight of the gibbons, the israeli place next to the chabad had the cheapest prices in town. i priced it to all sorts of discounts and the israelis were cheaper. i ordered pickup from there so i was able to get some breakfast to go to eat on the journey up
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 04:34:36 PM
Thats waaay cooler.

Though gotta go to NZ for the original and most awesome bungee jumping.

Nepal looks cool as well.

Yeah, one day... I believe the one in NZ was by the same guy (maybe that's what you mean by original)...

for flight of the gibbons, the israeli place next to the chabad had the cheapest prices in town. i priced it to all sorts of discounts and the israelis were cheaper. i ordered pickup from there so i was able to get some breakfast to go to eat on the journey up

Great! Anyone have contact info for this israeli place? Having food on the way to our day excursion would be clutch.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 21, 2013, 04:36:42 PM
Yeah, one day... I believe the one in NZ was by the same guy (maybe that's what you mean by original)...

theyre both aj hackett, but the one in queenstown (the kawarau bridge location) is the original commercial bungee operation in the world
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 04:48:09 PM
Great! Anyone have contact info for this israeli place? Having food on the way to our day excursion would be clutch.
I cant find it but even if you go through them (compare with direct quote) ask for excluding transportation and take your own driver and pick up food on the way.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 04:52:57 PM
I cant find it but even if you go through them (compare with direct quote) ask for excluding transportation and take your own driver and pick up food on the way.

Will do; thanks.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Will do; thanks.
Got it. http://www.669tours.com/ and I think this is their number, 053-820902
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
Got it. http://www.669tours.com/ and I think this is their number, 053-820902

Thumbs up, aussiebochur.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 21, 2013, 05:02:57 PM
Would it be of a benefit to have a Wiki over who has been in Thailand, along with the cities they've been in?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 21, 2013, 05:03:42 PM
Would it be of a benefit to have a Wiki over who has been in Thailand, along with the cities they've been in?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2882.0
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 21, 2013, 05:06:16 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2882.0
Those are TRs, not a simple list of who has been there

Also, since I never wrote a TR, if you're in the north by Chiang Rai, I highly recommend the Black House. The White Temple also looks stunning, but I didn't go there due to halachik concerns.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 21, 2013, 07:23:13 PM
haha kk heres the TR landed in bkk fri morning thai air 1st class = amazing!!!! stayed at holtel across from chabbad called Viengtai decent ac worked had a pool the basics.shabb chabad. sunday morning flew air asia to phuket stayed at Lm kaho lak didnt pick up food first on the way cause i figured i would go in to phuket for the day anyway to check it out but the resort was so nice that i didnt want to waist the day in a car!! luckily i met the rabbi from chiang mai he had a car and was driving in to phuket anyway so i ordered food and he brought it back for me = really nice guy!!!!
stayed at kaho lak from sunday through wensday wensday night flew to chiang mai air asia again stayed at the lm  thursday did all the animal shows and tiger kingdom (payed the guy in the cage 50 bht took GR8 pics  no need to spend 300bht for the "professional" ones )
   fri took a day trip in a ten seater van with a guide to the long necks some other village some cave and orchat garden everything besides the long necks was a complete waist of time and money kinda upsetting
shabbas at chabad  was gr8
sunday did the elephant camp also in the van once i was on the way the guide mentions that where also heading to the long necks and orcht garden since some of the other ppl on the tour payed for it
so we got him to drop us off after the elephant camp to a place and we where able to get a cab back
monday afternoon took bangkok air back to bkk sign up for there ff program and get a extra 10 k of luggage :)
since we where on the way to israel we kept all our luggage and the Viengtai hotel for 30 bht a day per bag so we when back there for monday night
tues morn flew thai air business to hongkong but thats for a diff thread :)
Nice TR. how did you meet the rabbi of CNX in phuket area with a car? he drove allt he way down and back up?

and i also thought the trip with the orchid farm etc was one big waste of time and money.
and we signed up for thai airways mileage program and got an extra 10k as well

Yep, flight of the gibbon is on the itin :)

Maybe I'll organize everything through this Yisrael guy? Does he have an email? Speak english well?

Yisrael wont send you to Flight of the gibbon AFAIK. maybe if you ask him he will but in general he has a contract with Flying Squirrel and hell convince you its the same thing (which it is). - But its true that the israelis have the best rate for the Ziplining. i paid 1800 baht if im not mistaken which is the cheapest ive seen.
he speaks english very well. i dont know his email.



What are "long necks?" Giraffes?

I was wondering about the professional photos -- both you and Dan and others just recommend tipping an employee. That seals it for me.

long necks -

(http://i35.tinypic.com/1zvs939.jpg)

regarding pics in tiger cage, youll always have a guide iwth you so u can just give him your camera. if u want to be nice then tip him a $1.50 :)

Those are TRs, not a simple list of who has been there

Also, since I never wrote a TR, if you're in the north by Chiang Rai, I highly recommend the Black House. The White Temple also looks stunning, but I didn't go there due to halachik concerns.
maybe someone can put together a wiki of stuff to do in thailand in each city . because otherwise theres gonna be many more of these conversations !

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 07:35:22 PM
@aussiebochur

From flight of the Gibbon:

Quote
We already have a car. Can we drive ourselves?
If you are in the Bangkok & Pattaya area, then yes. Our tours are located at the Khao Kheeo Open Safari and is not far and relatively easy to find. See the directions and map from Bangkok to Chonburi or map from Pattya to Chonburi.If you are in the Chiang Mai area we ask that you NOT drive to Maekampong. It is a small mountain village with small roads and very little parking. We take great measures in minimizing our impact there. In addition, the village heads have specifically requested guests to not drive themselves. We ask that you get picked up by one of our comfortable, VIP, air-con van.

If we drive ourselves to Chonburi from Bangkok or Pattaya, is there a discount?
Sorry, we cannot offer a discount for people driving themselves. See the directions and map from Bangkok to Chonburi or map from Pattya to Chonburi.

You sure it was here where you got a discount for driving yourself?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 21, 2013, 07:59:28 PM
@aussiebochur

From flight of the Gibbon:

You sure it was here where you got a discount for driving yourself?
Perhaps theyve changed their rules though Id try and tell them youre not coming from Chiang Mai so you wont be able to take their bus.
Quote
info Flight of the Gibbon <info@treetopasia.com>


to me

Regarding your question, in case you would prefer to go on your own and no meal we can discount for you 300 / person.

Then the price is 2999/person. Please drive arrive the site as the following information below:

 
The 1st round arrive by 8:00 a.m.
The 2nd round arrive by 11:00 a.m.
The 3rd round should not be later than 02:00 p.m.
 
 
Please let us know if you have any further question.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 21, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
Thanks I'll reach out to them.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 03:33:49 AM
Is Chiang Mai supposed to be nicer weather in the summer than Phuket? Or its the same weather pattern across the whole Thailand
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 22, 2013, 02:22:26 PM
Is Chiang Mai supposed to be nicer weather in the summer than Phuket?
Yes.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 03:14:50 PM
Yes.
thanks!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 05:35:19 PM
does anyone have any other hotels besides khoa lak that are close to the airport with private pool?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 22, 2013, 06:03:02 PM
does anyone have any other hotels besides khoa lak that are close to the airport with private pool?
whats going on with ur spelling lately??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 22, 2013, 06:25:35 PM
whats going on with ur spelling lately??
its my fat fingers. Im sorry. I will try to be more careful.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on April 23, 2013, 12:39:54 AM
Didn't know we're to ask this question so sorry ahead of time.
Reading the Thailand forum and mle forum and all the tr I didn't see anybody do thailand and mle together does it make since do to it ,or rather do china & Thailand together , and hope one day to go back and do mle and sin ? I'm talking about a 10 day trip altogether.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 23, 2013, 01:40:08 AM
whats going on with ur spelling lately??
Only lately? ;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 23, 2013, 01:40:44 AM
does anyone have any other hotels besides khoa lak that are close to the airport with private pool?
Did you chk out AirBnb
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 23, 2013, 01:59:28 AM
Yes drago...only lately. I've been very makpid until the recent Thai writings. :D

I did look on airbnb just nervous to do something like that.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on April 23, 2013, 02:18:12 AM
does anyone have any other hotels besides khoa lak that are close to the airport with private pool?
take a look at this

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293920-i5037-k2279113-Room_with_private_pool-Phuket.html
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 23, 2013, 02:25:17 AM
take a look at this

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g293920-i5037-k2279113-Room_with_private_pool-Phuket.html
thanks moish, just found the exact page too, i appreciate it!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 23, 2013, 02:31:55 AM
Yes drago...only lately. I've been very makpid until the recent Thai writings. :D

I did look on airbnb just nervous to do something like that.
So try to find a place that has a bunch of reviews, and that may make it safer.
I think I'll be going this route when i'm in Bali
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 23, 2013, 02:37:53 AM
So try to find a place that has a bunch of reviews, and that may make it safer.
I think I'll be going this route when i'm in Bali
i have the points to do spg. Gotta first work out flights.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 23, 2013, 02:40:18 AM
i have the points to do spg. Gotta first work out flights.
but if you want a private pool, then SPG won't help you unless you splurge
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 23, 2013, 04:18:40 AM
but if you want a private pool, then SPG won't help you unless you splurge
how much with a plat account is a private pool villa per night with spg?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 23, 2013, 05:33:31 AM
how much with a plat account is a private pool villa per night with spg?
Chk out Dan't TR for more details, b/c he did it. I never tried.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 23, 2013, 05:34:58 AM
Israeli co-worker just paid 1.3k for her tik to BKK.
I felt bad for her, and she felt even worse when I told her that I could have booked her biz class for only a few hundred more.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 23, 2013, 05:42:52 AM
Israeli co-worker just paid 1.3k for her tik to BKK.
I felt bad for her, and she felt even worse when I told her that I could have booked her biz class for only a few hundred more.
not on el al though....
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on April 23, 2013, 05:44:14 AM
not on el al though....
But on *A she could, and that's what's she is flying anyhow.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 23, 2013, 09:11:42 AM
Didn't know we're to ask this question so sorry ahead of time.
Reading the Thailand forum and mle forum and all the tr I didn't see anybody do thailand and mle together does it make since do to it ,or rather do china & Thailand together , and hope one day to go back and do mle and sin ? I'm talking about a 10 day trip altogether.

Definitely possible to do Thailand and Maldives together, in fact, I think businessmachine has a trip exactly like that planned IIRC.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 24, 2013, 02:19:18 AM
Some banks have accounts that reimburse that.
thanx for the tip! - i went to my local Chase Branch and spoke to the banker and she happily adjusted and refunded me $30 worth of fees i got from withdrawals :)
(she said its a courtesy and they dont always do it)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2013, 04:45:28 PM
This thread sorely needs a wiki.

From what I understand from this thread and google there are 3 chabads in BKK.

OHR MENACHEM CHABAD HOUSE - Rabbi Wilhelm
96 Ram Buttri Rd. Banglampoo, Bangkok Thailand 10200


EVEN CHEN SYNAGOGUE
Chao Phya Office Tower 4th Floor (Attached to the Shangri-La Hotel) Soi Charoenkrung 42\1 New Rd (Silom Rd. area), Bangkok, Thailand


BETH ELISHEVA SYNAGOGUE, MIKVEH & JEWISH CENTER
121 Soi Sai Nam Thip 2, Sukhumvit Soi 22






So, for my wife and I, who are both decent with conversational hebrew, but by no means fluent, it seems Beth Elisheva would be the best for us.

What are the good hotels there? Any personal recommendations?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on April 24, 2013, 05:43:59 PM
Why did you decide on BKK for shabbos?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 24, 2013, 05:45:11 PM
Why did you decide on BKK for shabbos?
was about to ask that. From what everyone is telling me, i should be in Chiang Mai for shabbos.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
Why did you decide on BKK for shabbos?

It's not set in stone yet, but it's all based on availability.

I'm currently booked in TG A388 (which has the new F) from BKK, so I have to get there prior to shabbas.

Secondarily, I'd like to experience TG ground services which people tend to rave about.

However, if a couple of my other routings open, this may all change.

was about to ask that. From what everyone is telling me, i should be in Chiang Mai for shabbos.

I will be  :D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 24, 2013, 06:31:47 PM
It's not set in stone yet, but it's all based on availability.

I'm currently booked in TG A388 (which has the new F) from BKK, so I have to get there prior to shabbas.

Secondarily, I'd like to experience TG ground services which people tend to rave about.

However, if a couple of my other routings open, this may all change.

I will be  :D
im only there as of now one shabb, and im not particular in my routing, so ill be in CNX.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 24, 2013, 06:35:45 PM
This thread sorely needs a wiki.

From what I understand from this thread and google there are 3 chabads in BKK.

OHR MENACHEM CHABAD HOUSE - Rabbi Wilhelm
96 Ram Buttri Rd. Banglampoo, Bangkok Thailand 10200

  • According to cbs and yas (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=305.msg266197#msg266197), this is the most exciting, and (but?) it's all in hebrew

EVEN CHEN SYNAGOGUE
Chao Phya Office Tower 4th Floor (Attached to the Shangri-La Hotel) Soi Charoenkrung 42\1 New Rd (Silom Rd. area), Bangkok, Thailand

  • According to cbs, this is for sfardim

BETH ELISHEVA SYNAGOGUE, MIKVEH & JEWISH CENTER
121 Soi Sai Nam Thip 2, Sukhumvit Soi 22

  • According to cbs, this is geared towards families and English speaking / businessmen





So, for my wife and I, who are both decent with conversational hebrew, but by no means fluent, it seems Beth Elisheva would be the best for us.

What are the good hotels there? Any personal recommendations?
id love to make a wiki i just dont have the time for it now .... :(

but what u said s correct and i stand to what i said. id say go to Beis Elisheva just because its english and u wont have so many smoked up israelis :) but if u dont mind that and some excitement then go to the Chabad house
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
Excellent -- I'll leave it up to my better half.

Where'd you stay?

Oh, wait - you went to Rabbi Wilhelm which is a different place altogether...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 24, 2013, 06:42:40 PM
Excellent -- I'll leave it up to my better half.

Where'd you stay?

Oh, wait - you went to Rabbi Wilhelm which is a different place altogether...
where did i stay when?
last year or this year?

Rabbi Wilhelm is the Chabad House
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2013, 06:47:50 PM
where did i stay when?
last year or this year?

Rabbi Wilhelm is the Chabad House

Either/or? Both?

Right, I know.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on April 24, 2013, 06:55:27 PM
Either/or? Both?

Right, I know.
i was helping Chabad at the time and i got set up at their place and this past trip i stayed in a decently nice hotel but not something id really recommend for a couple thats used to using SPG and other nice hotels.... i was looking for the cheap way out . it was called Buddy Boutique inn (http://www.buddyboutiqueinn.com/) - small rooms but good beds and nice showers. prob the best showers for an inn or guest house in the area
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on April 24, 2013, 07:08:28 PM
i was helping Chabad at the time and i got set up at their place and this past trip i stayed in a decently nice hotel but not something id really recommend for a couple thats used to using SPG and other nice hotels.... i was looking for the cheap way out . it was called Buddy Boutique inn (http://www.buddyboutiqueinn.com/) - small rooms but good beds and nice showers. prob the best showers for an inn or guest house in the area

Ah, got you. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Hudi on April 24, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
does anyone have any other hotels besides khoa lak that are close to the airport with private pool?

Jetsetter always has decent places on sale in Phuket with private pools. If you have Hilton points you want to burn Conrad Koh Samui is a good option. I managed to make a reservation before the big deval for summer of 2014.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on April 24, 2013, 07:37:14 PM
Jetsetter always has decent places on sale in Phuket with private pools. If you have Hilton points you want to burn Conrad Koh Samui is a good option. I managed to make a reservation before the big deval for summer of 2014.
thanks a million!  Jetsetter has now a place, but the reviews say, stay away. Being that its an island its infested with masquitos.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MAJ on April 25, 2013, 02:23:47 AM
This thread sorely needs a wiki.

From what I understand from this thread and google there are 3 chabads in BKK.

OHR MENACHEM CHABAD HOUSE - Rabbi Wilhelm
96 Ram Buttri Rd. Banglampoo, Bangkok Thailand 10200

  • According to cbs and yas (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=305.msg266197#msg266197), this is the most exciting, and (but?) it's all in hebrew

EVEN CHEN SYNAGOGUE
Chao Phya Office Tower 4th Floor (Attached to the Shangri-La Hotel) Soi Charoenkrung 42\1 New Rd (Silom Rd. area), Bangkok, Thailand

  • According to cbs, this is for sfardim

BETH ELISHEVA SYNAGOGUE, MIKVEH & JEWISH CENTER
121 Soi Sai Nam Thip 2, Sukhumvit Soi 22

  • According to cbs, this is geared towards families and English speaking / businessmen





So, for my wife and I, who are both decent with conversational hebrew, but by no means fluent, it seems Beth Elisheva would be the best for us.

What are the good hotels there? Any personal recommendations?
j stayed in the Davis hotels out a  8 min walk away. Stayed In a junior or Davis suite don't remember for $96 a night was very happy with it.  Huge suite. U feel like your in Thailand staying in this hotel. Negatives were location was bad for everything else and. None of the staff spoke English even though they all said they did
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 27, 2013, 09:58:36 PM
Flying out of Bangkok on a 1240 am flight. Can either get to Bangkok at 3 in the afternoon on the day of my flight or the day before to give me time in Bangkok. The difference is 9 days in Bali or 10. Is Bangkok worth a day and a half? Will be in July
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on April 30, 2013, 11:13:23 PM
Way past the edit deadline here.

Gonna be in Bali for 9 days and BKK for 1.5 days in July. If I could add another day, would it be worth it to do another day in BKK vs Bali or is that to much, especially in July when it's probably nasty and Bali would be nice?

Right now I only have 1.5 days in BKK however and if I do the extra day in Bali and cannot extend my ticket home from BKK for a day I will be stuck with just half a day in BKK. If I do book the 2.5 days in Bali then I am guaranteed at least 1.5 days.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 01, 2013, 01:45:54 AM
how far is the main part of bkk from the airport?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: aussiebochur on May 01, 2013, 01:54:44 AM
how far is the main part of bkk from the airport?
15 min express train, 30 min on the regular.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 01, 2013, 02:06:22 AM
15 min express train, 30 min on the regular.
How about DMK?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 01, 2013, 04:11:46 AM
15 min express train, 30 min on the regular.
the only reason to take a train is if theres traffic otherwise id go taxi - its cheap and its like 35 min.

How about DMK?
20-25 min
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 01, 2013, 04:28:55 AM
the only reason to take a train is if theres traffic otherwise id go taxi - its cheap and its like 35 min.
20-25 min
i am leaving on thurs from hkt>bkk. My flight from bkk>KUL is at 440 .is it worth it to take an early flight from Phuket in order to have 6 hrs or so in bkk or its not really kidai?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 01, 2013, 04:30:02 AM
i am leaving on thurs from hkt>bkk. My flight from bkk>KUL is at 440 .is it worth it to take an early flight from Phuket in order to have 6 hrs or so in bkk or its not really kidai?
id say not worth it
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 01, 2013, 09:20:02 AM
i am leaving on thurs from hkt>bkk. My flight from bkk>KUL is at 440 .is it worth it to take an early flight from Phuket in order to have 6 hrs or so in bkk or its not really kidai?

What are you doing in KUL?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 01, 2013, 10:54:33 AM
What are you doing in KUL?
3 hr stop. Though i saw a flight with an 11 hr stop there buy i know nothing about kul
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on May 01, 2013, 01:44:43 PM
3 hr stop. Though i saw a flight with an 11 hr stop there buy i know nothing about kul
Oh it's funny cause I was debating if KUL is worth and extra flight but if I was there I would totally try to get out see the towers etc.

Can I ask where your going from KUL?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on May 01, 2013, 01:51:25 PM
What's ur routing?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 01, 2013, 03:52:07 PM
What's ur routing?
as of now. Tlv>mun>bkk>cnx>hkt>kul>ist>tlv.

I have an option for kul at 11 hrs but im a bit skeptical.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on May 01, 2013, 04:07:32 PM
as of now. Tlv>zrh>bkk>cnx>hkt>kul>ist>tlv.

I have an option for kul at 11 hrs but im a bit skeptical.
FTFY (I think)

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 01, 2013, 04:09:24 PM
FTFY (I think)


sorry. Its all the same to me by now :-).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 03, 2013, 11:38:08 AM
any advice in which hotel i should i go to on phuket?
- i can use poinsts and go to LM KL
- the pavilions
- Anantara Phuket Villas
- sala
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: damaxer91 on May 03, 2013, 04:12:45 PM
any advice in which hotel i should i go to on phuket?
- i can use poinsts and go to LM KL
- the pavilions
- Anantara Phuket Villas
- sala

Thailand is not a place to stay at a generic SPG Hotel (even for less than 2 weeks :) )

Pavilions is great.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 04, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
Thailand is not a place to stay at a generic SPG Hotel (even for less than 2 weeks :) )

Pavilions is great.
andrew said the same exact thing.  I will do spg in Chiang Mai but in Phuket im really leaning towards the pavilion esp bec jetsetter is having a flash sale now.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 05, 2013, 07:57:18 AM
http://www.groupon.my/deals/travelcity/phuket-2-thailand/716803979

is this worth it? how much does a full day (or half day) phi phi island trip cost?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on May 05, 2013, 08:52:10 AM
andrew said the same exact thing.  I will do spg in Chiang Mai but in Phuket im really leaning towards the pavilion esp bec jetsetter is having a flash sale now.
still pricey at $325, esp in Thailand
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 05, 2013, 08:54:46 AM
if you can afford it, go for it. its a once in a lifetime opportunity. i would check tripadvisor for the best reviews though
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 05, 2013, 09:38:32 AM
if you can afford it, go for it. its a once in a lifetime opportunity. i would check tripadvisor for the best reviews though
everyone i speak to says go for the pavilions over the sala. Even for 325. 24k points is what it costs at the LMKL thats almost 490$!! And its an hr and change form the airport this pavilions is 35 min. Also, if you go on any of the other websites the rooms are a fortune. Its almost double that price for the tropical. Though im so tempted to splurge on a once in a lifetime (probably) ocean view room :D

There will be bad reviews about anything. It seems like only a few really complained and have it horrible ratings. Though it basically says bad food or mean hotel staff
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on May 05, 2013, 09:42:18 AM
Any Aman or 4 Season properties in the area?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on May 05, 2013, 01:44:24 PM
everyone i speak to says go for the pavilions over the sala. Even for 325. 24k points is what it costs at the LMKL thats almost 490$!! And its an hr and change form the airport this pavilions is 35 min. Also, if you go on any of the other websites the rooms are a fortune. Its almost double that price for the tropical. Though im so tempted to splurge on a once in a lifetime (probably) ocean view room :D

There will be bad reviews about anything. It seems like only a few really complained and have it horrible ratings. Though it basically says bad food or mean hotel staff
i was actually referring to ko phi phi, should the weather allow you to go.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on May 05, 2013, 03:08:49 PM
as of now. Tlv>mun>bkk>cnx>hkt>kul>ist>tlv.

I have an option for kul at 11 hrs but im a bit skeptical.
Wow! How long yiur trip? (im asunibg its summer time...) and how long you staying at each place ?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on May 08, 2013, 01:11:13 PM
http://www.groupon.my/deals/travelcity/phuket-2-thailand/716803979

is this worth it? how much does a full day (or half day) phi phi island trip cost?
Of course it's worth it. Cheapest ferries from Phuket to Phi Phi are about 300-450 baht = $10-$15 each way

Hiring a long boat from Phi phi to Maya Bay would run you about $10 to $20 per person

Speed boats are extremely expensive to hire (starting at $150 for half day)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on May 08, 2013, 01:19:50 PM
Of course it's worth it. Cheapest ferries from Phuket to Phi Phi are about 300-450 baht = $10-$15 each way

Hiring a long boat from Phi phi to Maya Bay would run you about $10 to $20 per person

Speed boats are extremely expensive to hire (starting at $150 for half day)
thanks. The pavilions sent me a day itin for 3100 bht. Which is 103$ or so. Ill look at that groupon again.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Glamette on May 20, 2013, 06:29:18 PM
Does anyone know of any good tour groups in Bangkok and Phuket Thailand? The ones I've found are ridiculously expensive (like $200 for the Tiger Sanctuary). In Bangkok I want to do the Tigers and Floating Market and in Phuket the Elephant Trek and Koh Phi Phi. Any suggestions are well appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on May 20, 2013, 07:17:21 PM
Does anyone know of any good tour groups in Bangkok and Phuket Thailand? The ones I've found are ridiculously expensive (like $200 for the Tiger Sanctuary). In Bangkok I want to do the Tigers and Floating Market and in Phuket the Elephant Trek and Koh Phi Phi. Any suggestions are well appreciated.  :)
no need to look for group tours.
when u get there go to any agency and ask to arrange it, theyre are plenty of tours all over.
if you want go next to chabad to Hamerkaz Hametayel and they can help you
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Glamette on May 20, 2013, 07:24:53 PM
no need to look for group tours.
when u get there go to any agency and ask to arrange it, theyre are plenty of tours all over.
if you want go next to chabad to Hamerkaz Hametayel and they can help you

Thanks a lot! That would save so much time and effort. :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Vosizderneias on May 21, 2013, 01:21:47 AM
went to the one in chiang mai and bangkok. oh man, bautiful. great cheap food. i left a fat donation. shobbos was great. shluchim were so kind. truly amazing. ps thay can packa three day package of food for long hikes...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 04, 2013, 03:57:47 PM
Has anybody been to the floating market , is it worth the hour drive?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 04, 2013, 04:15:30 PM
Has anybody been to the floating market , is it worth the hour drive?
I was there and I thought it was worth it.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 04, 2013, 04:32:33 PM
This is likely the wrong thread, but here goes.
I'm arriving to BKK on Turkish biz class (booked using UA miles), and then booked a separate ticket to KBV in economy.
Will I have access to any lounges, or since my follow-up flight is on a separate itin, I'll miss out?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 04, 2013, 05:24:30 PM

This is likely the wrong thread, but here goes.
I'm arriving to BKK on Turkish biz class (booked using UA miles), and then booked a separate ticket to KBV in economy.
Will I have access to any lounges, or since my follow-up flight is on a separate itin, I'll miss out?

Hehe, nekamah ;)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 04, 2013, 10:22:57 PM
Hehe, nekamah ;)
;)
Dang, now you may know who i am.
But don't worry. My email address matches somewhat, and used to be publicly listed here.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 05, 2013, 12:06:05 PM
Is it worth it to fly to Phuket / krabi for 2 days 1 night just to go island hopping ?
Has anyone done it want to fly in on a Monday early morning  around 12:30 and leave tues 5 pm is that enough time or I won't get the felling of the place for so short?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 06, 2013, 10:32:14 AM
Is it worth it to fly to Phuket / krabi for 2 days 1 night just to go island hopping ?
Has anyone done it want to fly in on a Monday early morning  around 12:30 and leave tues 5 pm is that enough time or I won't get the felling of the place for so short?
bump
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 06, 2013, 11:34:03 AM
what time of year?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 06, 2013, 11:42:55 AM
what time of year?
dec
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 06, 2013, 01:28:14 PM
dec
Maybe we can meet up. When are you going to be there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 18, 2013, 04:02:54 PM
Thinking about staying at the Conrad Koh Samui. Has anyone been there or have any thoughts on the place? Any ideas of what to do around the area?

Any insight would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 18, 2013, 04:06:32 PM
Ask away!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 18, 2013, 04:08:40 PM
Thinking about staying at the Conrad Koh Samui. Has anyone been there or have any thoughts on the place? Any ideas of what to do around the area?

Any insight would be appreciated.
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2011/12/01/conrad-koh-samui-2-bedroom-ocean-pool-villa-burn-avios-burn-cathay-pacific-first-class-and-amazing-conrad-suites/
http://loyaltylobby.com/2011/12/18/conrad-koh-samui-resort-spa-koh-samui-thailand-review-of-my-stay-at-villa-219/
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 18, 2013, 04:19:40 PM
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/viewfromthewing/2011/12/01/conrad-koh-samui-2-bedroom-ocean-pool-villa-burn-avios-burn-cathay-pacific-first-class-and-amazing-conrad-suites/
http://loyaltylobby.com/2011/12/18/conrad-koh-samui-resort-spa-koh-samui-thailand-review-of-my-stay-at-villa-219/
Thanks.

Anybody know of anything to do "locally" in the area?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on June 18, 2013, 05:54:24 PM
Thanks.

Anybody know of anything to do "locally" in the area?

Koh Phanang is an island that's a ferry ride away from Koh Samui.  If you take a ferry there in the morning you can get an entire day of snorkeling or diving.  I did not go, but I know many many people who have who said it was the highlight of their trip to Samui.

Another local thing to do is an evening walking around Chaweng (where the Chabad is also located).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 18, 2013, 07:07:42 PM
Koh Phanang is an island that's a ferry ride away from Koh Samui.  If you take a ferry there in the morning you can get an entire day of snorkeling or diving.  I did not go, but I know many many people who have who said it was the highlight of their trip to Samui.

Another local thing to do is an evening walking around Chaweng (where the Chabad is also located).
Thanks for the info. God willing i will be traveling with a chile by the time i want to go and not sure diving/snorkeling would be a possibility. I like the idea of the evening walk. 

Do you know anything about transportation in the area of the hotel? Is it fairly easy to get around outside of the hotel to see places?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: jeckll on June 18, 2013, 07:12:27 PM
Planning a trip to Thailand in 2014. Can anyone recommend the best points system to get there and for local flights if necessary? Have some time to stockpile and want to get the right currency...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 18, 2013, 07:14:58 PM
Planning a trip to Thailand in 2014. Can anyone recommend the best points system to get there and for local flights if necessary? Have some time to stockpile and want to get the right currency...
Personally, i am stockpiling HH points and AA/BA points for my trip.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 18, 2013, 07:20:34 PM
Planning a trip to Thailand in 2014. Can anyone recommend the best points system to get there and for local flights if necessary? Have some time to stockpile and want to get the right currency...

Star Alliance has a very strong route network to Asia. Among others, TG, NH, LH, OZ, and (new alliance member) BR all fly to BKK.

Hyatt is generally weak in Thailand, so you'll want to go SPG or HH.

Intra-thailand flights can be cheap depending where you go. Check this thread.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: jeckll on June 18, 2013, 08:50:51 PM
Personally, i am stockpiling HH points and AA/BA points for my trip.
Thanks for your advice. Heavy fees on AA/BA, aren't there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 18, 2013, 09:29:39 PM
Thanks for your advice. Heavy fees on AA/BA, aren't there?
Not sure on that. Maybe someone who knows can chime in.

Would like to try and fly on CX.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 01:50:41 AM
as AJK said, go with a star alliance, if you can get AA its prob the best value for your points, (esp if going from the middle east) i am using US air, yes they are a pain to deal with to switch any sort of flights, but at 75k a biz class ticket, i can complain.

@AJK did you say in chang mai at all?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 19, 2013, 02:48:45 AM
Koh Phanang is an island that's a ferry ride away from Koh Samui.  If you take a ferry there in the morning you can get an entire day of snorkeling or diving.  I did not go, but I know many many people who have who said it was the highlight of their trip to Samui.

LOL, its Koh Phangan. Theres is also a trip that includes Koh Nangyuan and Koh Tao, which is very nice and i did that one.

@AJK did you say in chang mai at all?
ya he stayed in La Meridian IIRC
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: bg26892 on June 19, 2013, 04:45:40 AM
Koh Tao is def the place you want to go to learn/try scuba dive.  Just left there after a 2 month stint.  Easy ferry ride from KP or KS. 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 09:17:59 AM
Yes. 5 days in Chaing Mai. Loved the city.

Hated Bangkok.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 19, 2013, 09:33:54 AM
Yes. 5 days in Chaing Mai. Loved the city.

Hated Bangkok.
syayed over shabb? Ill be there for 4 days.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 19, 2013, 10:50:14 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on June 19, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
Thanks.

Anybody know of anything to do "locally" in the area?
I enjoyed Samui.

Boh Puht has a nice broadwalk + fishing village. Great for evening strolls etc. (there is also jetski rentals there)

There is a safari somewhere inland - Elephant rides, Zip-lines, Pictures with tigers etc (also an overpriced shooting range in the vicinity)

There are 2 nice waterfalls mid-south, both require a bit of walking.

There is nice little waterfall / watering hole on the east side of the island. Cool spot to hang out.

There is a starbucks in chaweng.

I recommend renting scooters and taking the road that circles the island - some col spots you can discover)

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 19, 2013, 10:08:15 PM
I enjoyed Samui.

Boh Puht has a nice broadwalk + fishing village. Great for evening strolls etc. (there is also jetski rentals there)

There is a safari somewhere inland - Elephant rides, Zip-lines, Pictures with tigers etc (also an overpriced shooting range in the vicinity)

There are 2 nice waterfalls mid-south, both require a bit of walking.

There is nice little waterfall / watering hole on the east side of the island. Cool spot to hang out.

There is a starbucks in chaweng.

I recommend renting scooters and taking the road that circles the island - some col spots you can discover)
Will have a small child with us when we go, so won't be able to do some of these, but the waterfall/watering hole sounds cool.

Where did you stay?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 01:50:52 AM
Yes.
did u call the chabad before you came to inform them of your arrival? and what about shabb?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 20, 2013, 03:18:36 AM
did u call the chabad before you came to inform them of your arrival? and what about shabb?
no need
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 03:27:37 AM
no need
just walk in?

Ok, k. Im gonna work on my itin now. Thanks. I will ask when i read up.
Before i start, is there anything in Phuket that i must do that i can't do in Chiang Mai? Besides phi phi.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 20, 2013, 04:10:07 AM
syayed over shabb? Ill be there for 4 days.
You should hit up Chiang Rai for a day or 2 instead of just Chiang Mai.
Very nice LM property there, and you can have a driver take you up to the Golden Triange for a daily rate of around $50.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 06:24:34 AM
You should hit up Chiang Rai for a day or 2 instead of just Chiang Mai.
Very nice LM property there, and you can have a driver take you up to the Golden Triange for a daily rate of around $50.
Cant really. Arriving thurs morning and leaving Monday morning. Whats there? And can i just take a day trip there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 20, 2013, 07:19:22 AM
Cant really. Arriving thurs morning and leaving Monday morning. Whats there? And can i just take a day trip there?
You can fly into Chiang Rai instead of Chiang Mai, and then drive down to Chiang Mai for you flight out.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 08:20:24 AM
You can fly into Chiang Rai instead of Chiang Mai, and then drive down to Chiang Mai for you flight out.
i cannot change my flight. To late. Not wirth 300
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 09:13:48 AM
You should hit up Chiang Rai for a day or 2 instead of just Chiang Mai.
Very nice LM property there, and you can have a driver take you up to the Golden Triange for a daily rate of around $50.
Whats in Chiang Rai that you feel it is better than Chaing Mai?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 20, 2013, 09:25:55 AM
Whats in Chiang Rai that you feel it is better than Chaing Mai?
A nice LM property.
Very little touristy feel.
We had a driver take us up into the mountains for waterfalls, the Queens residence, and more.
For the adventurous, you can cross into Burma or Laos and see how the villages used to be.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 09:30:22 AM
A nice LM property.
Very little touristy feel.
We had a driver take us up into the mountains for waterfalls, the Queens residence, and more.
For the adventurous, you can cross into Burma or Laos and see how the villages used to be.
Does it have the same type of activities (tigers, elephants...) as in Chaing Mai?
My plan as of now is to fly into Chaing Mai, stay for a couple days and then fly down to Koh Samui for two/three days. Probably head back home, via Bangkok.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 20, 2013, 10:14:40 AM
Does it have the same type of activities (tigers, elephants...) as in Chaing Mai?
My plan as of now is to fly into Chaing Mai, stay for a couple days and then fly down to Koh Samui for two/three days. Probably head back home, via Bangkok.
I think Chiang Mai is the place to be for those specific activities.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 10:16:06 AM
I think Chiang Mai is the place to be for those specific activities.
I will be traveling with a baby, so Chaing Mai seems to make a little more sense for me i believe.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 20, 2013, 10:27:13 AM
I will be traveling with a baby, so Chaing Mai seems to make a little more sense for me i believe.
we went w/ a 2 month old :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 10:29:26 AM
we went w/ a 2 month old :)
How was that?

I would be traveling with a ~6 month old at the time. My wife is a little nervous about the trip.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 10:36:36 AM
Maco. Do u have an itin? How long u going?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 10:39:57 AM
Maco. Do u have an itin? How long u going?
Not a legitimate itinerary, but see attached for what i have put together so far.

Anyone with additional information,  please feel free to comment and let me know.

ETA: Plan on the whole trip (including travel time) taking around 7-9 days.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 10:45:27 AM
Not a legitimate itinerary, but see attached for what i have put together so far.

Anyone with additional information,  please feel free to comment and let me know.

ETA: Plan on the whole trip (including travel time) taking around 7-9 days.
Awesome. Just Chiang Mai?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 10:53:48 AM
Awesome. Just Chiang Mai?
Chaing Mai for 2/3 days and then Koh Samui for another 2/3 days. Not sure which order i will do it in.

I am figuring i would want to be in Koh Samui for shabbat as there is a lot less to do there. So it kind of depends on how my flights work out.

Anyone have information on where/how to book the local flights?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 11:08:48 AM
I don't know where you plan on staying in USM, but my advice is not to do Shabbas there, as the Chabad itself isn't near the nice resorts.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 11:09:59 AM
Additionally, to the extent it helps, I do plan on putting up my TR in the next week or so.

@Mrs. AJK -- can you finish it already?  ;D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 20, 2013, 11:14:16 AM
How was that?

I would be traveling with a ~6 month old at the time. My wife is a little nervous about the trip.
i went with a 5 month old and it was wonderful
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
I don't know where you plan on staying in USM, but my advice is not to do Shabbas there, as the Chabad itself isn't near the nice resorts.
Plan on staying at the Conrad Koh Samui. I am personally ok with davening at the Kotel in my room. I plan on bringing a mini crock pot and ordering some food from Chabad for food. My wife and I are fine with small meal.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 11:27:58 AM
Plan on staying at the Conrad Koh Samui. I am personally ok with davening at the Kotel in my room. I plan on bringing a mini crock pot and ordering some food from Chabad for food. My wife and I are fine with small meal.

Precisely what I did. Especially since the CKS is about a 4 hour walk from chabad... each way.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 11:29:35 AM
Precisely what I did. Especially since the CKS is about a 4 hour walk from chabad... each way.
I figure i will do the "exciting" things in Chaing Mai and just relax in Koh Samui. Take advantage of personal villas and private pools.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
I figure i will do the "exciting" things in Chaing Mai and just relax in Koh Samui. Take advantage of personal villas and private pools.

Again, precisely what I did. Though, to be fair, I HAD to relax, as we were there over Shavuos.

If you have a car, there are a few things you may want to check out on USM.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:37:43 AM
I've heard the CKS isn't the greatest with kids.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 11:39:50 AM
I've heard the CKS isn't the greatest with kids.
How so?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 11:40:16 AM
Again, precisely what I did. Though, to be fair, I HAD to relax, as we were there over Shavuos.

If you have a car, there are a few things you may want to check out on USM.
Don't think i will have a car, but if i did, what should i be going to see?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 11:42:39 AM
How so?

+1

Don't think i will have a car, but if i did, what should i be going to see?

Some ideas were discussed upthread. Also check out TA.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
+1
Dunno, just what I heard.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 11:48:50 AM
Aside from the pool in every room, I don't see the issue. Especially with a 6 month old.

Unless management has a policy against kids?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 12:05:44 PM
Aside from the pool in every room, I don't see the issue. Especially with a 6 month old.

Unless management has a policy against kids?
I see that the hotel even offers babysitting!
Here (http://conradhotels3.hilton.com/en/hotels/thailand/conrad-koh-samui-USMKSCI/about/at-a-glance.html).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on June 20, 2013, 12:48:10 PM
Will have a small child with us when we go, so won't be able to do some of these, but the waterfall/watering hole sounds cool.

Where did you stay?
We stayed in the FX in chaweng (thats where the chabad seder was)
We also stayed a few days in the Sunday Sanctuary (Awesome place for those on a budget) http://www.thesundaysresort.com/

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g293918-d456466-Reviews-Na_Muang_Waterfall-Koh_Samui_Surat_Thani_Province.html
http://www.kohsamui.com/waterfalls/

PS: based on google maps, it looks like there is a nice empty beach due south/east of the conrad - 5 minute walk.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 20, 2013, 12:57:19 PM
can i ask why u going to Koh Samui over krabi /phuket /phi phi island ?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 01:03:57 PM
can i ask why u going to Koh Samui over krabi /phuket /phi phi island ?

That's where the CKS is, duh :P
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 01:09:18 PM
I see that the hotel even offers babysitting!
Here (http://conradhotels3.hilton.com/en/hotels/thailand/conrad-koh-samui-USMKSCI/about/at-a-glance.html).
Your wife would let a stranger in a strange country babysit your kid?

I think the issue I recalled besides for the exposed pool is that you need a golf cart to get anywhere from your room. You can't just push your kid out of your room in a stroller or let them roam around.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 01:20:22 PM
Your wife would let a stranger in a strange country babysit your kid?

I think the issue I recalled besides for the exposed pool is that you need a golf cart to get anywhere from your room. You can't just push your kid out of your room in a stroller or let them roam around.
No, was just using that to show that the hotel doesn't appear to be kid unfriendly.

I read that also about the hotel. I don't really plan on doing too much out and about while i am there. More just relax and enjoy the private pool.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 20, 2013, 01:36:55 PM
That's where the CKS is, duh :P
my question is as follows why this this location , there are some beautiful hotels in krabi(rc)  and kho lake(lm) , phi phi (holiday inn) with points  ????
from reading around it sounds like the boat trip around those island are out of this world!!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 20, 2013, 01:43:01 PM
my question is as follows why this this location , there are some beautiful hotels in krabi(rc)  and kho lake(lm) , phi phi (holiday inn) with points  ????
from reading around it sounds like the boat trip around those island are out of this world!!!
why not stay in phuket and go to phi phi for a night?

from what i see on google maps, the chabad in CNX is around a 10 minute walk from LM.

I figure i will do the "exciting" things in Chaing Mai and just relax in Koh Samui. Take advantage of personal villas and private pools.
is there an advantage of Koh Samui over phuket? it sounds exactly the same to me, in short a resort town with private villa's

Additionally, to the extent it helps, I do plan on putting up my TR in the next week or so.

@Mrs. AJK -- can you finish it already?  ;D
and i would greatly appreciate it as well! :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
I read that also about the hotel.
Works with a 6 month old non-mobile kid.
Seems like torture with a 2 year old who just wants to run around.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 01:55:02 PM
is there an advantage of Koh Samui over phuket? it sounds exactly the same to me, in short a resort town with private villa's
I did not really look into Phuket. I have HH points which i want to use and the Conrad Koh Samui looked like a nice place to use them.

Works with a 6 month old non-mobile kid.
Seems like torture with a 2 year old who just wants to run around.
That's what i am hoping for.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 20, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
So here goes my question , when the weather is nice which is a better place to visit phuket/ krabi or koh samui ??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 02:16:57 PM
I did not really look into Phuket.
You're not missing anything.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 02:32:33 PM
You're not missing anything.
That's a bit of a relief. Otherwise Thailand would be the next Hawaii in terms of having to visit all it's islands to really enjoy it.
As i only have a week or so for this vacation, i think i will get a good feel of Thailand by visiting Chaing Mai, Koh Samui and possibly Bangkok.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 20, 2013, 02:34:17 PM
That's a bit of a relief. Otherwise Thailand would be the next Hawaii in terms of having to visit all it's islands to really enjoy it.
As i only have a week or so for this vacation, i think i will get a good feel of Thailand by visiting Chaing Mai, Koh Samui and possibly Bangkok.
No need to do BKK if you are doing CNX.
If you have extra time then check out Ko Phi Phi islands, etc.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 20, 2013, 02:35:31 PM
No need to do BKK if you are doing CNX.
If you have extra time then check out Ko Phi Phi islands, etc.
+1 .
Cnx is a nicer version of BKK and less busy - and phi phi islands are really nice
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 20, 2013, 02:36:47 PM
No need to do BKK if you are doing CNX.
If you have extra time then check out Ko Phi Phi islands, etc.
I was only thinking BKK if i was flying back through. From a quick ITA search, it seems i can fly into CNX with a stop in HKG, on the way back though, CNX seems to stop at BKK. If i would be farther north in Koh Samui and i would need to fly back up anyways to get a flight, figured i can spend a few hours in BKK.  Am i off with this logic?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 20, 2013, 02:45:17 PM
I spent Shabbas in BKK (loved the American chabad there, but not the city) on my way ex-Thailand.

Only way to get TG F ground services :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 20, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
is there an advantage of Koh Samui over phuket? it sounds exactly the same to me, in short a resort town with private villa's
during summer, koh samui has less chance of rain
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: jeckll on June 21, 2013, 09:22:01 PM
What's a good routing for US to Thailand? Looking to spend about 2 weeks in SE asia, hopefully Thailand and maybe somewhere else (Vietnam?). Thinking Star Alliance as it will allow me to add a couple destinations on 1 ticket, EG

ORD-NRT
NRT-BKK
SGN-ORD

Can spend a couple days in Tokyo, then move around a bit in Thailand and elsewhere for a week+. Any recommendations? I know this is Thailand thread but certainly others have hopped a little on their trips?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 24, 2013, 02:13:33 PM
Need some help with my planning .
Nyc- pek depart sun 11:50 am arrive Monday 2pm
Pek - hkt Wednesday 7 pm arrive Thursday 12:30 am
Friday 1 pm - cnx arrive 3 pm
Cnx - hkg Monday 7 pm
Thursday 11am hkg - nyc

Or


Nyc - pek sun 11:50 am arrive Monday 2 pm
Pek - bkk Wednesday 5 pm arrive bkk 9:30 pm - bkk - cnx Thursday 10:30 arrive 12 pm
Saturday night 9:45 pm cnx - hkt
Monday night hkt - hkg arrive 10:30
Thursday morning hkg - nyc

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 24, 2013, 02:46:06 PM
Both look like a disaster to me.

Way too many stops, not enough time in each.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 24, 2013, 06:11:41 PM
Going to hkt just to see phi phi island is it worth it?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 24, 2013, 11:40:33 PM
Have 1.5 days in BKK in July. For my full day should I hire a guide/driver or go around myself? Planning on doing a canal tour, perhaps the palace. Anything not to be missed?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 24, 2013, 11:44:44 PM
Going to hkt just to see phi phi island is it worth it?
thats what i did.
i wouldnt go to HKT to see HKT so i guess theres your answer

Have 1.5 days in BKK in July. For my full day should I hire a guide/driver or go around myself? Planning on doing a canal tour, perhaps the palace. Anything not to be missed?
if you have time its about hour half away from BKK to see the Floating Market which is a nice experience. I wouldnt really hire a driver in BKK since theres cabs on every corner and if u use the meter ull end up paying less then ur driver (probably)
dont miss the chabad there :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 25, 2013, 12:21:45 AM
if you have time its about hour half away from BKK to see the Floating Market which is a nice experience. I wouldnt really hire a driver in BKK since theres cabs on every corner and if u use the meter ull end up paying less then ur driver (probably)
dont miss the chabad there :)
Floating market looks really cool. Are you talking about the Damnoen Saduak Floating Market? TA has mixed reviews about it, some ppl loving it and others saying that it's an expensive tourist trap.

Chabad is high on my list worry not!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 25, 2013, 03:21:36 AM
Are you talking about the Damnoen Saduak Floating Market? TA has mixed reviews about it, some ppl loving it and others saying that it's an expensive tourist trap.
yes thats the market.
I didnt think it was expensive. maybe for thailand it is. theres other trips you can do as well inclusive, like continue on to Kanchanaburi which is another hour away and go see tigers, and nice water falls, and elephants, bamboo rafting etc....but that i wouldnt do if your going to chiang mai cuz its better there.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 08:24:47 AM
Whats normal price from cnx airport to le meridian by taxi?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2013, 09:10:27 AM
there only one taxi company at the airport. take it and take down the drivers number to take you around during your stay. its not easy to flag down taxis on the street
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 25, 2013, 09:12:27 AM
Are the hotels able to order you a taxi, or is it better not to rely on them?

What is the best option for a phone during my stay?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 09:25:43 AM

Whats normal price from cnx airport to le meridian by taxi?

Less than $5.

there only one taxi company at the airport.

-1
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 09:26:45 AM

Are the hotels able to order you a taxi, or is it better not to rely on them?

What is the best option for a phone during my stay?

They can, but you can also pick up a tuk tuk basically anywhere if you don't need AC.

DTAC/Happy SIM.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 10:15:44 AM
Less than $5.

-1
from the hotel:
We are please to offer for Transportation on detail as following:
 
(  ) Toyota Camry at THB 550.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)
(  ) Mercedez Benz E Class 250 at THB 950.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)
(  ) Van at THB 1,500.-net per car per way (maximum 7 adults/car)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 10:21:08 AM
from the hotel:
We are please to offer for Transportation on detail as following:
 
(  ) Toyota Camry at THB 550.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)
(  ) Mercedez Benz E Class 250 at THB 950.-net per car per way (maximum 3 adults/car)
(  ) Van at THB 1,500.-net per car per way (maximum 7 adults/car)

And?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 10:27:38 AM
And?
and is this normal or should i wing it at the airport. im arriving at 9 am and would like to get a full day in.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 10:29:40 AM
and is this normal or should i wing it at the airport. im arriving at 9 am and would like to get a full day in.

As I said, you can get a taxi from the airport for less than $5.

550 THB is almost $20. Don't get it through the hotel.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 10:30:43 AM
As I said, you can get a taxi from the airport for less than $5.

550 THB is almost $20. Don't get it through the hotel.
ok. Thanks so much!

What did u do about cell phone?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 10:31:29 AM
ok. Thanks so much!

What did u do about cell phone?

Seriously?

DTAC/Happy SIM.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on June 25, 2013, 10:32:23 AM
Any experience with buying kosher cereal in Thailand. Will be there for 2 weeks with kids. Can one buy Corn Flakes, chocos.... Will be in Khao Lak
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 10:33:23 AM
Seriously?

I'm sorry, i didnt and dont know what that means. (besides something with a SIM)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 10:34:42 AM
I'm sorry, i didnt and dont know what that means. (besides something with a SIM)

First line of defense when you don't know what something means: click here (http://bit.ly/11KAspp).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 25, 2013, 10:49:45 AM
Has anybody gone to hkt/krabi just to see the islands??
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2013, 10:50:18 AM
when i was there in summer 2011, there was only one company at the airport.

it was worthwhile to take his number down and work out a daily rate of somewhere between 700-800 to take you to the attractions such as the elephants, snakes, tigers etc

things might have changed since then
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 25, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Has anybody gone to hkt/krabi just to see the islands??
why do you ask the same question twice?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 11:00:49 AM
(hey, i'll give it a try)

there is more than one company at the airport

but your advice about taking that driver for the day is still good and thats what we did when we were there it saved us a lot of hassle

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 25, 2013, 11:12:12 AM
why do you ask the same question twice?
didnt get an answer !!
So instead of BUMP i asked again!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 25, 2013, 11:14:01 AM

With a ~2 stopover in BKK, is there anything that can be done/seen, or is it not enough time?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 25, 2013, 11:19:03 AM
With a ~2 stopover in BKK, is there anything that can be done/seen, or is it not enough time?

Hours?

Not enough time. Not even close.

Especially on, what I assume, is an international itin?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on June 25, 2013, 11:23:46 AM
Hours? Yes

Not enough time. Not even close. That's what i figured

Especially on, what I assume, is an international itin? Yes
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 25, 2013, 11:29:21 AM
is there any airport in the world that a 2 hr stop would be enough time to do/see anything?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 25, 2013, 11:33:30 AM
didnt get an answer !!
So instead of BUMP i asked again!
im sorry you feel my answer wasnt enough, im not sure what more you want...

thats what i did.
i wouldnt go to HKT to see HKT so i guess theres your answer
and i dont regret it , which means it was worth it
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 11:38:08 AM
First line of defense when you don't know what something means: click here (http://bit.ly/11KAspp).
lol. im sorry, i thought i was an acronym. excuse my mistake!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on June 25, 2013, 12:48:09 PM
im sorry you feel my answer wasnt enough, im not sure what more you want...
and i dont regret it , which means it was worth it
please don't take it the wrong way , I thank u for all advise , just not getting a clear answer if anybody went for 2days/1 night to see the islands ? How long did u go for?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 12:56:34 PM
Seriously?

how much did you pay and how long was your stay? approximately
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: andrew on June 25, 2013, 12:58:28 PM
and is this normal or should i wing it at the airport. im arriving at 9 am and would like to get a full day in.
If your taking the taxi to pavillions then pick up a legit taxi from the airport and make sure he goes on the meter, it will be cheaper then a quoted price.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 25, 2013, 01:07:36 PM
If your taking the taxi to pavillions then pick up a legit taxi from the airport and make sure he goes on the meter, it will be cheaper then a quoted price.
thanks. i happen to have been asking about chiang mai, but that was going to be asked soon! thank you so much!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on June 25, 2013, 01:22:36 PM
please don't take it the wrong way , I thank u for all advise , just not getting a clear answer if anybody went for 2days/1 night to see the islands ? How long did u go for?
well u just asked if it was worth it. if u want a clear answer u have to specify what u want

i went for 2 nights and one day in HKT and i went for a day trip to the 7 islands which includes phi phi .
if i had time id prob stay on phi phi for a night or 2, cuz HKT is nasty
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 25, 2013, 10:59:27 PM
yes thats the market.
I didnt think it was expensive. maybe for thailand it is. theres other trips you can do as well inclusive, like continue on to Kanchanaburi which is another hour away and go see tigers, and nice water falls, and elephants, bamboo rafting etc....but that i wouldnt do if your going to chiang mai cuz its better there.
Kanchanaburi  looks pretty cool. I am not going to be in Chiang Mai as my BKK stop is on my way home from Bali. One day I'm sure I will get there but not on this trip.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Suave on June 26, 2013, 01:00:29 AM
well u just asked if it was worth it. if u want a clear answer u have to specify what u want

i went for 2 nights and one day in HKT and i went for a day trip to the 7 islands which includes phi phi .
if i had time id prob stay on phi phi for a night or 2, cuz HKT is nasty
Did phi phi for a few weeks (i think). loved every second.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on June 26, 2013, 01:45:44 PM
I'm planing a trip to Thailand in late December and trying to decide whether to go to HKT or Ko Samai. I would be spending Shabbos plus 2 days wherever I decide to go. I know there's been a little bit of discussion upthread about HKT vs. Ko Samai but I'm looking for some straight up comparisons between the two, or at least peoples opinions about each one.



Another part of this decision is Shabbos, from what I can tell I would need to stay in a local hotel to be near Chabad for meals and davening on Shabbos in both HKT and USM. Does anyone have any experience with the local hotels around those Chabad's?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on June 26, 2013, 02:07:44 PM
Chabad is not located where you want to be in either place.
CNX is the place to be for shabbos.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on June 26, 2013, 02:36:01 PM
Chabad is not located where you want to be in either place.
CNX is the place to be for shabbos.


Was already in CNX. I was thinking of staying at a hotel near Chabad for Shabbos, they have several options listed on Chabads website.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ZCN on June 26, 2013, 03:47:30 PM
How about Shabbos in PEK?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 26, 2013, 05:33:07 PM
How about Shabbos in PEK?

IIRC moish is a big fan of PEK, you may want to PM him.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 28, 2013, 12:21:53 PM
Is the Grand Palace in BKK just temples or is there nice architecture not temple related there?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on June 28, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
Most of the architecture is not temple related.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 28, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
Most of the architecture is not temple related.
Thanks. How long should I give for walking around the palace area?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on June 29, 2013, 10:47:01 PM
1-2 hours
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2013, 03:26:18 AM
Mandatory travelers health insurance?
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upiUPI-20130628-175152-8260

(You should anyhow have)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 30, 2013, 03:55:23 AM
Mandatory travelers health insurance?
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/upiUPI-20130628-175152-8260

(You should anyhow have)
whens that going into affect? And does muchedet cover out of israel
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2013, 03:58:00 AM
whens that going into affect? And does muchedet cover out of israel
I paid Meuchedet a few shekel for coverage.
Either way, you should ALWAYS buy travelers health insurance.
Always.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 30, 2013, 03:58:43 AM
I paid Meuchedet a few shekel for coverage.
Either way, you should ALWAYS buy travelers health insurance.
Always.
where do i begin?! Can you set me in the righty direction?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2013, 04:02:11 AM
where do i begin?! Can you set me in the righty direction?
Call them.

Alternatively, you can use an insurance agent.
I can PM you some names if you need.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 30, 2013, 06:43:30 AM
Call them.

Alternatively, you can use an insurance agent.
I can PM you some names if you need.
please!  Thabks.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 06:51:19 AM
definitely go through an agent such as shmuel weinstein (thats who i use), it makes filing a claim much easier
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 30, 2013, 07:31:54 AM
definitely go through an agent such as shmuel weinstein (thats who i use), it makes filing a claim much easier
u have a nummber?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on June 30, 2013, 07:40:50 AM
How much are you guys paying for travel insurance?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 07:46:34 AM
u have a nummber?

shmuelw@012.net.il or by phone at 050-445-5770, tell him i sent you
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: andrew on June 30, 2013, 07:50:56 AM
just walk into the meuchedet office in arzei and arrange insurance there, i think there is a gold and silver package.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 07:53:06 AM
just walk into the meuchedet office in arzei and arrange insurance there, i think there is a gold and silver package.
i wouldnt recommend that. while it might be slightly cheaper, its a real pita to file a claim.

using an agent saves you a lot of hassle for a few shekel extra
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 07:55:28 AM
i would also recommend that you make sure youre up to date with your vaccinations. its always better to be cautious.

you should go to the travel clinic on yaffo with your vaccination history
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 30, 2013, 07:57:19 AM
i would also recommend that you make sure youre up to date with your vaccinations. its always better to be cautious.

you should go to the travel clinic on yaffo with your vaccination history
in order to go to BMG u have to be up to date (i was there 2 yrs ago) along with getting married i needed to be up to date. but i def will look into this
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2013, 07:59:54 AM
How much are you guys paying for travel insurance?
You have the great looking AMEX travelers insurance.
Ever use it?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2013, 08:01:07 AM
i would also recommend that you make sure youre up to date with your vaccinations. its always better to be cautious.

you should go to the travel clinic on yaffo with your vaccination history
For some of the very northern parts of Thailand, a Malaria vaccination is recommended.
I had a scare upon my return from Chiang Rai last year.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 08:01:21 AM
in order to go to BMG u have to be up to date (i was there 2 yrs ago) along with getting married i needed to be up to date. but i def will look into this
you do? when i was there i was never asked anything about that
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 08:02:26 AM
For some of the very northern parts of Thailand, a Malaria vaccination is recommended.
I had a scare upon my return from Chiang Rai last year.
i dont believe there is a vaccine for malaria. when i went to india, i had to take pills.

either way, if he stays in the cities, malaria isnt an issue
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 30, 2013, 08:13:42 AM
i dont believe there is a vaccine for malaria. when i went to india, i had to take pills.

either way, if he stays in the cities, malaria isnt an issue
what is very northern thialnd?
and yes moish they are nuts now a days with the vacinnes. i wasnt allowed into the dorms until i got them all. and ud be surprised bec there are prob more germs just in the dorms than there are in a garbage can
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on June 30, 2013, 08:21:53 AM
i dont believe there is a vaccine for malaria. when i went to india, i had to take pills.

either way, if he stays in the cities, malaria isnt an issue
N/t that's too great, but there is s/t out there.
And correct, cities are supposed to be okay. It's more of an issue in the Golden Triangle area.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on June 30, 2013, 08:27:49 AM
moish! i emailed ur guy and his girl already called back! they have a new thing, at the airport in BG go to gate D and they give u a cc so if u need any dr's u call the number in the back and they direct u to a certain dr and then u swipe ur cc that they gave u :-)  she was all excited that even MOISH didnt have this yet ;)

crazy cheap btw. 2$ a day .50 cents for air ambulance, .50 cents for dangerous sports. covers upto 1 mill, 1750 of luggage and so on! thanks again!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on June 30, 2013, 08:32:05 AM
happy to help
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on June 30, 2013, 11:04:27 PM
Trying to work out my itinerary for BKK a bit. Landing at 3pm from Bali in July and flying out the following night at 1240 am. First day I arrive, I plan on checking into the Le Meridien, maybe seeing Chinatown, Chabad house and then will rest up. Anything else to do?

Following day I have the whole day. Planning on seeing the Palace and taking a boat down the Khlongs. This should only take about 4 - 5 hours. Need to add something to fill in my time. Should I go to either the tiger temple or perhaps the floating market in the morning and then go see the palace and canals, or better to stick around BKK the whole time. Any other ideas? Thanks!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on June 30, 2013, 11:48:51 PM
You should count some time for traffic. It took us at 9:30am about 20 minutes to get to the grand palace from Le Meridien. And about 1.5 hours to get back to the hotel.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 01, 2013, 12:31:29 AM
You should count some time for traffic. It took us at 9:30am about 20 minutes to get to the grand palace from Le Meridien. And about 1.5 hours to get back to the hotel.
Wow that's harsh. Was the Le Meridien nice? Traffic and all do you think I should go out of the city at all?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 01, 2013, 10:01:38 AM
Ok: wow. Read thru most of your reports and this thread.

So ill be landing at 9am on thurs. i would like to get as much done. Plus wll have been flying 11 hrs in biz. What should i on fri? On thurs after i land If i start my day at 11 after i check in and all. Is that to late to go to the tiger kingdom? Should i hire a driver or do an organized tour? Ill be there till Monday AM.

The list so far is:
Tiger kingdom
Elephant riding/show
Monkey show
Rafting
Snake show
Night markets
Night Sefari (not sure. Very mixed reviews here)
Bungee jumping:white water rafting/zip lining (any advice for an extreme sport)

Anything i should not miss while in Chiang Mai?!?  Have the LM junior suite low floor already reserved.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on July 01, 2013, 10:08:47 AM

lets make a wiki
it would be clair!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 01, 2013, 10:14:06 AM
lets make a wiki
it would be clair!
indeed. And what activities are good to do as a joint day.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Brian on July 01, 2013, 10:31:21 PM
Quote
Wow that's harsh. Was the Le Meridien nice?
The Le Meridien was very nice. As a plat we got upgraded to a corner suite. If you want I could upload pictures.
Quote
Traffic and all do you think I should go out of the city at all?
We were only in bkk for 20 hours, we didn't leave the city, I have no clue if you should.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 02, 2013, 04:31:59 AM
Does anybody know, if I can buy kosher potato chips in Phuket. What about cereal, like corn flakes... Will be there for 2 weeks with kids and wanna know, what I have to shlep along
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 02, 2013, 05:02:52 AM
Does anybody know, if I can buy kosher potato chips in Phuket. What about cereal, like corn flakes... Will be there for 2 weeks with kids and wanna know, what I have to shlep along
i dont think you can buy kosher chips in thailand besides for the chabad houses which import from israel. and im not sure if they have in HKT, i think they have in BKK. there are prob some choices of cereals too. but i would call them to ask
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 06:11:06 AM
i dont think you can buy kosher chips in thailand besides for the chabad houses which import from israel. and im not sure if they have in HKT, i think they have in BKK. there are prob some choices of cereals too. but i would call them to ask
is there kosher milk at chabad for sale?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 02, 2013, 06:17:27 AM
is there kosher milk at chabad for sale?
Nope :) you need to be VIP to get!
too bad im not there to hook u up with a bowl  ;D
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on July 02, 2013, 06:21:03 AM
Nope :) you need to be VIP to get!
too bad im not there to hook u up with a bowl  ;D

+1 :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 02, 2013, 06:35:09 AM
is there kosher milk at chabad for sale?
Bring the packaged milk from Israel.
That's what we did last year.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 07:09:23 AM
Bring the packaged milk from Israel.
That's what we did last year.
Someone said that Asher ad and the such sell non refrigerated milk that can last longer. Anyone know if such a thing? Drago, the milks in bags last me 2 coffees
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 02, 2013, 07:14:41 AM
Someone said that Asher ad and the such sell non refrigerated milk that can last longer. Anyone know if such a thing? Drago, the milks in bags last me 2 coffees
Of course not the milk in the bags :)

I was referring to the non-refrigerated stuff.

There is likely more discussion in the thread about kosher food while traveling.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: mendoul on July 02, 2013, 07:26:31 AM
Of course not the milk in the bags :)

I was referring to the non-refrigerated stuff.

There is likely more discussion in the thread about kosher food while traveling.

chalav amid
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: SavingsBigtime on July 02, 2013, 08:04:27 AM
The makot in Arzey also sells it
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 08:06:39 AM
every market in israel sells them, but its a real shlep.

try to get milk powder
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 08:07:33 AM
every market in israel sells them, but its a real shlep.

try to get milk powder
its just me and the wife. but ill def look into this. though im not sure we really even need.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 02, 2013, 09:13:06 AM
Someone said that Asher ad and the such sell non refrigerated milk that can last longer. Anyone know if such a thing? Drago, the milks in bags last me 2 coffees
Would you be ok drinking the boxed soy milks?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 09:15:17 AM
Would you be ok drinking the boxed soy milks?
whats the advantage of soy over real milk?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 02, 2013, 09:20:11 AM
whats the advantage of soy over real milk?
IMO, i can justify bringing and using boxed soy milk over boxed milk. May just be something psychological with me though.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 09:23:40 AM
IMO, i can justify bringing and using boxed soy milk over boxed milk. May just be something psychological with me though.
lol. I will look in arzie.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 09:53:17 AM
IMO, i can justify bringing and using boxed soy milk over boxed milk. May just be something psychological with me though.
:o
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 09:55:34 AM
If doing tiger kingdom in chiang mai what else can be arranged to be done in the same area?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 02, 2013, 09:57:25 AM
:o
I'm used to milk being fresh and cold out of the fridge, although, if i would put a boxed milk in the fridge, it may solve my issue...  :-\
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 10:13:10 AM
If doing tiger kingdom in chiang mai what else can be arranged to be done in the same area?
pretty much all the animal shows are in the same general area iirc
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 10:16:19 AM
pretty much all the animal shows are in the same general area iirc
ok. Thnks. How long of a day do you think it can be with all the shows and what not.

Not sure if o do it on thurs or fri
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 10:17:06 AM
ok. Thnks. How long of a day do you think it can be with all the shows and what not.

Not sure if o do it on thurs or fri
i did it on a friday and didnt get everything. had to go back on sunday
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 10:22:02 AM
i did it on a friday and didnt get everything. had to go back on sunday
was it bec u were with children? Or even with out them you would not have had enough time?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 10:29:40 AM
was it bec u were with children? Or even with out them you would not have had enough time?
well i dont like running around like a chicken without a head. i take my leisurely time. you might take a different approach.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2013, 12:09:16 PM
Does anybody know, if I can buy kosher potato chips in Phuket. What about cereal, like corn flakes... Will be there for 2 weeks with kids and wanna know, what I have to shlep along
Shlep everything.
There are a few snacks like Tea Biscuits in the Chabad Houses for sale but they can't be relied on.

Also realize that the Chabad Houses in Thailand sell their food at heavy losses to compete with local prices so that more people will eat kosher.  I felt the need to leave a nice donation for 2 days, for 2 weeks I can't even calculate.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2013, 12:10:50 PM
If doing tiger kingdom in chiang mai what else can be arranged to be done in the same area?
We did Tiger/Elephant Show/Elephant ride/Monkey Show in half a day.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 02, 2013, 12:18:47 PM
Shlep everything.
There are a few snacks like Tea Biscuits in the Chabad Houses for sale but they can't be relied on.

Also realize that the Chabad Houses in Thailand sell their food at heavy losses to compete with local prices so that more people will eat kosher.  I felt the need to leave a nice donation for 2 days, for 2 weeks I can't even calculate.

Oh well, I guess 2 suitcases will be cloth and the other 10 food :-) Have to figure out what can be bought in singapore, any idea?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 12:30:49 PM
We did Tiger/Elephant Show/Elephant ride/Monkey Show in half a day.
thanks! so i will do that on friday. (shabb starts 645 - give or take a min)

did anyone do any of the extreme sports? atv? white water rafting? zip line?

is there any safari that i can go to during the day? or only the night one?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: PlatinumGuy on July 02, 2013, 12:32:50 PM
Have to figure out what can be bought in singapore, any idea?
There is a fully stocked kosher shop, not sure if you want to buy meat products but everything else is fine.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 02, 2013, 12:34:59 PM
There is a fully stocked kosher shop, not sure if you want to buy meat products but everything else is fine.
Whats the issue with the meat. Actually I was relying on that most
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: LAXtraveler on July 02, 2013, 12:35:18 PM
thanks! so i will do that on friday. (shabb starts 645 - give or take a min)

did anyone do any of the extreme sports? atv? white water rafting? zip line?

is there any safari that i can go to during the day? or only the night one?

I went on a zip line here: http://www.ziplinechiangmai.com/homepage.php?action=home (http://www.ziplinechiangmai.com/homepage.php?action=home).  It was great times, but is a ways out of the city.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
There is a fully stocked kosher shop
+1, though check expiration dates as some stuff looked very old.
Prices were reasonable.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2013, 12:36:20 PM
Whats the issue with the meat.
Beats me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 02, 2013, 12:37:06 PM
did anyone do any of the extreme sports? atv? white water rafting? zip line?
Not with a pregnant wife :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 01:00:22 PM
zipline is hardly extreme. i did flight of the gibbons
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 01:03:09 PM
zipline is hardly extreme. i did flight of the gibbons
is that zip line. How was it?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on July 02, 2013, 01:34:55 PM
is that zip line. How was it?

It's fun... a nice day activity.. there are two companies offering ziplining one is flight of the gibbon... they are very similar (back when I did it)

But if you're pressed for time I wouldn't consider this a must do...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 01:44:37 PM
I hopefully do the tigers elephants and such on Friday.

That leaves me with most of thurs and a full Sunday.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 01:47:08 PM
is that zip line. How was it?
it was fun. be sure to book from the israeli place next to chabad. i had the gibbons pick me up from there so i was able to get breakfast to go from the chabad to eat in the van on the way up
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 01:59:53 PM
it was fun. be sure to book from the israeli place next to chabad. i had the gibbons pick me up from there so i was able to get breakfast to go from the chabad to eat in the van on the way up
thanks so much!  Such valuable info!

Does anyone have an email to that israeli guy?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2013, 02:08:33 PM
In lieu of my TR, here's something to hold you over.

Do all of the animal stuff on Thursday with a driver: tigers, mae sa elephants, snakes, crocodile, etc. If you're good, you can probably throw ATV'ing in there, too. We did.

Friday, do ziplining. You'll be done in plenty enough time for shabbas.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 02, 2013, 02:10:08 PM
search upthread, i believe aussie posted it
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 02, 2013, 02:37:08 PM
If doing tiger kingdom in chiang mai what else can be arranged to be done in the same area?
ask the Israeli guy next door to chabad

was it bec u were with children? Or even with out them you would not have had enough time?
I think it's enough time to do in one day but I rush things as well sometimes

Shlep everything.
There are a few snacks like Tea Biscuits in the Chabad Houses for sale but they can't be relied on.

Also realize that the Chabad Houses in Thailand sell their food at heavy losses to compete with local prices so that more people will eat kosher.  I felt the need to leave a nice donation for 2 days, for 2 weeks I can't even calculate.
+1 -  when I went in march for a few weeks I brought a big box of nosh which lasted the whole time and was perfect when u need something to nosh on. (to bad I couldn't bring to nepal now :( it was either that or a box of chickens for Chabad

thanks! so i will do that on friday. (shabb starts 645 - give or take a min)

did anyone do any of the extreme sports? atv? white water rafting? zip line?

is there any safari that i can go to during the day? or only the night one?
I did the zip lining called flying squirrel which is the same as flight of gibbon. And it's really cool..
The white water rafting is not white. And it was boring.
Repelling was awesome and climbing up white big rocks with rushing flow of water was amazing!

+1, though check expiration dates as some stuff looked very old.
Prices were reasonable.
prices are very expensive!! Everything is imported besides for the fact that it's Singapore so everything is double the price

it was fun. be sure to book from the israeli place next to chabad. i had the gibbons pick me up from there so i was able to get breakfast to go from the chabad to eat in the van on the way up
+1 very convenient

thanks so much!  Such valuable info!

Does anyone have an email to that israeli guy?
search upthread, i believe aussie posted it
I quoted it somewhere in thread when ajk inquired. But I'm on mobile now
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 02, 2013, 02:56:38 PM
669 Tours. Worked with his Thai assistant (forget her name) who was very good.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 02, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
In lieu of my TR, here's something to hold you over.

Do all of the animal stuff on Thursday with a driver: tigers, mae sa elephants, snakes, crocodile, etc. If you're good, you can probably throw ATV'ing in there, too. We did.

Friday, do ziplining. You'll be done in plenty enough time for shabbas.
thank you soooooo much!! The one issue is i won't get my day started till 11 ish prob, after i land and get to the hotel. Of course i have Sunday to do it. Great.

ask the Israeli guy next door to chabad
I think it's enough time to do in one day but I rush things as well sometimes
+1 -  when I went in march for a few weeks I brought a big box of nosh which lasted the whole time and was perfect when u need something to nosh on. (to bad I couldn't bring to nepal now :( it was either that or a box of chickens for Chabad
I did the zip lining called flying squirrel which is the same as flight of gibbon. And it's really cool..
The white water rafting is not white. And it was boring.
Repelling was awesome and climbing up white big rocks with rushing flow of water was amazing!
prices are very expensive!! Everything is imported besides for the fact that it's Singapore so everything is double the price
+1 very convenient
I quoted it somewhere in thread when ajk inquired. But I'm on mobile now
thank you so much man!! This really helps a lot!!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Fan of Dan on July 02, 2013, 11:11:27 PM
The Le Meridien was very nice. As a plat we got upgraded to a corner suite. If you want I could upload pictures.We were only in bkk for 20 hours, we didn't leave the city, I have no clue if you should.
Gotcha thanks. Flight out of BKK leaves at 1240 am. Wondering if I should stay over 2 nights in the LM so that I can relax before the flight. Room was pretty cheap at 2800 points and 45 bucks. I booked the 2nd night separate from the first so that if I do cancel it won't create any problems with my first night.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 03, 2013, 04:10:50 AM
if you are touring, no. If you are just chilling in the hotel yes, for this price I would do it, but everyone values a dollar different
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 06, 2013, 04:37:51 PM
Is there anything that i should reserve before i go? 

Atv or zip line?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 07, 2013, 04:37:28 AM
Just left muchedet 106₪ for my wife and i. Including 1500$ on suitcases.

The other guy wanted 40$ per person.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: andrew on July 07, 2013, 01:28:53 PM
Just left muchedet 106₪ for my wife and i. Including 1500$ on suitcases.

The other guy wanted 40$ per person.
can i take credit for that?
no day safari but there is a zoo. why dont you go see the long neck tribe?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 07, 2013, 01:52:28 PM
can i take credit for that?
no day safari but there is a zoo. why dont you go see the long neck tribe?
u did muchedet? I am thinking if doing one if us muchedet and one this other guy. Muchedet will be a pain to work with. Even if its just luggage if u ask me.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: moish on July 07, 2013, 02:07:31 PM
meuchedet is a real pain. i once did it and had to make a claim. they sent me to a different company that underwrites the policy. never got around to it.

never again used them.

used weinstein, emailed them my receipts and that it
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 07, 2013, 03:36:03 PM
meuchedet is a real pain. i once did it and had to make a claim. they sent me to a different company that underwrites the policy. never got around to it.

never again used them.

used weinstein, emailed them my receipts and that it
ya. I figured. As it is it was so annoying trying to figure out what she was trying to say to me today. Lol. Ill prob do one and one.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 07, 2013, 03:50:54 PM
Were getting very OT here, but Meuchedet for is great, for the medical insurance, I have made claims and were great to deal with. All you do is, make a claim with Hareel which is one of the biggest insurance companies in Israel, and two weeks later the money is in your account. For the suitcases, I dont know but can imagine its not the best.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 02:19:54 AM
Were getting very OT here, but Meuchedet for is great, for the medical insurance, I have made claims and were great to deal with. All you do is, make a claim with Hareel which is one of the biggest insurance companies in Israel, and two weeks later the money is in your account. For the suitcases, I dont know but can imagine its not the best.
the prob is im not with hareel, will that make a diff?

also with wienstien, you get this cc and if theres any issues ur using their cc, not laying it out.

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 08, 2013, 02:40:25 AM
the prob is im not with hareel, will that make a diff?

also with wienstien, you get this cc and if theres any issues ur using their cc, not laying it out.
Meuchedet travel insurance=Hare'el.
I know a few who have gotten back alot of money from them without a problem.
There is a $50 excess.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2013, 02:47:11 AM
Still OT, but when in the US a few months back. my wife had to go into the hospital, and the bills have come out to over 8k.
Still trying to make sure the insurance company will cover it, and that the hospital is aware that I had travelers insurance.
It's been a real PITB
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 08, 2013, 02:50:48 AM
Still OT, but when in the US a few months back. my wife had to go into the hospital, and the bills have come out to over 8k.
Still trying to make sure the insurance company will cover it, and that the hospital is aware that I had travelers insurance.
It's been a real PITB
Meuchedet?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 02:52:27 AM
Is the long necks tour a separate day event or i can do it in the same tiger kingdom, snake, monkey, and elephant riding?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2013, 03:11:24 AM
Meuchedet?
I used an agent, and I think that Clal underwrote it w/ United Healthcare being the US org handling it.
So far, there's been a bunch of communication issues, so we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2013, 03:11:54 AM
Is the long necks tour a separate day event or i can do it in the same tiger kingdom, snake, monkey, and elephant riding?
Where I went, it was an hour or so.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on July 08, 2013, 03:39:36 AM
I used an agent, and I think that Clal underwrote it w/ United Healthcare being the US org handling it.
So far, there's been a bunch of communication issues, so we'll see what happens.
We had something similar... We used meuchedet/harel- but after making claims, we still kept getting bills and warnings from the doctors office etc.. It even went to a collecting agency.. They  said they have heard nothing from our insurance provider... While harel said they are on top of it... Then finally said they having issues reaching docs office because of te time dif...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on July 08, 2013, 03:40:38 AM
Took like two months and lots of time and hard ache to settle... 
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Jkhein on July 08, 2013, 03:44:09 AM

We had something similar... We used meuchedet/harel- but after making claims, we still kept getting bills and warnings from the doctors office etc.. It even went to a collecting agency.. They  said they have heard nothing from our insurance provider... While harel said they are on top of it... Then finally said they having issues reaching docs office because of te time dif...
Took like two months and lots of time and hard ache to settle...
btw its possible to modify posts, although that wont count for post count ;-)
You might of done something wrong, because AFAIK they usually require you to pay, and then claim back when you return.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on July 08, 2013, 04:42:56 AM
Sorry, didn't know how to modify on tapatalk... (Just started using it)

Some things we paid for in America already and some we didn't... But thy said it doesn't really make much dif... They just wanted to contact them to make a deal or something with them...
Either way, they were very hard to deal with, and got different answers from every rep we spoke to with regarding the status of our claim.. Took a couple of calls till they told us they needed another paper..
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 05:11:02 AM
Where I went, it was an hour or so.
Where I went, it was an hour or so.
Where I went, it was an hour or so.
you just did the long neck tours? What was that days itin?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 08, 2013, 05:30:12 AM
you just did the long neck tours? What was that days itin?
i went on the same trip as elephant, bamboo rafting , orchid farm and hike .
but i dont recommend this trip.
best is to ask the guy next door to chabad , he is VERY helpful.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 05:46:16 AM
i went on the same trip as elephant, bamboo rafting , orchid farm and hike .
but i dont recommend this trip.
best is to ask the guy next door to chabad , he is VERY helpful.
thanks. Does he speak English or only Hebrew?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 08, 2013, 05:47:27 AM
thanks. Does he speak English or only Hebrew?
if he runs a business there then he must speak also english, no?  :P
and u speak a decent hebrew, i heard you in Miro's!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Let3 on July 08, 2013, 06:28:17 AM
I am very  fascinated by this tread...
And although I don't know when/if I will ever make it there- it is my new favorite spot...
So after reading it all and seeing many asking for a wiki I decided to give a try..
Though it is my first wiki ..
So anyone is invited to pitch in and add/change based in their experience (or just my mistakes)
Hope ppl can gain from this...
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Cbs on July 08, 2013, 06:45:52 AM
I am very  fascinated by this tread...
And although I don't know when/if I will ever make it there- it is my new favorite spot...
So after reading it all and seeing many asking for a wiki I decided to give a try..
Though it is my first wiki ..
So anyone is invited to pitch in and add/change based in their experience (or just my mistakes)
Hope ppl can gain from this...
nice!
it should be your favorite spot! :)

i fixed up wiki a bit
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 07:56:16 AM
if he runs a business there then he must speak also english, no?  :P
and u speak a decent hebrew, i heard you in Miro's!
lol, i can get by. i wasnt asking bec the hebrew is an issue. i was just asking bec then i have to prepare some words that i wouldnt necessarily know.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
Whoever did the wiki that is amazing. Everyone who contributed. Thanks a million.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 03:18:16 PM
Wow, thanks Chikky!!!

So let's say I want to hit up the
-Tiger Kingdom
-Elephant show
-Elephant riding and bamboo rafting
-Monkey show

Is the boat ride also worth doing?
Any good markets to check out?

There are 2 Air Asia flight from CNX to HKT on Thursday.
1pm-3pm is 3,100 THB ($103)
8:45pm-11:50pm is 2,300 ($77)

If I take the 1pm will I still have enough time in Chiang Mai? 

dan,
Did you end up doing all these in one day? If so did you have to schedule anything before hand? How long did it all take. Last q: did the taxi know where to go?

Anyone else can please answer too!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
I did Tiger Kingdom, Mae Sah Elephant Show, Snake Show, Crocodile Show and ATV.

Scheduled nothing beforehand.

In lieu of my TR, here's something to hold you over.

Do all of the animal stuff on Thursday with a driver: tigers, mae sa elephants, snakes, crocodile, etc. If you're good, you can probably throw ATV'ing in there, too. We did.

Friday, do ziplining. You'll be done in plenty enough time for shabbas.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 03:45:40 PM
I did Tiger Kingdom, Mae Sah Elephant Show, Snake Show, Crocodile Show and ATV.

Scheduled nothing beforehand.

your a Scholar and a gentleman!
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2013, 05:20:29 PM
your a Scholar and a gentleman!
and is potential for sainthood as well, at least according to press reports
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2013, 05:21:44 PM
dan,
Did you end up doing all these in one day? If so did you have to schedule anything before hand? How long did it all take. Last q: did the taxi know where to go?

Anyone else can please answer too!
We had hired a driver for a day who took us to most of these places for a low fee.
It was nice being by ourselves in the van.
I forgot the cost, but was probably around 60-80.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2013, 05:23:50 PM
We had hired a driver for a day who took us to most of these places for a low fee.
It was nice being by ourselves in the van.
I forgot the cost, but was probably around 60-80.
Sounds very high.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2013, 05:24:20 PM
We had hired a driver for a day who took us to most of these places for a low fee.
It was nice being by ourselves in the van.
I forgot the cost, but was probably around 60-80.

60-80 dollars?

Ours only cost 800 baht... and had a brand new leather SUV.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 05:28:50 PM
60-80 dollars?

Ours only cost 800 baht... and had a brand new leather SUV.
ajk. Was it just u and ur wife or a public tour? Maybe drago was more bec he had more ppl
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 08, 2013, 05:33:20 PM
Private.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 08, 2013, 05:35:00 PM
60-80 dollars?

Ours only cost 800 baht... and had a brand new leather SUV.
Ours may have been a bit lower.
It included Chiang Rai to Chiang Mai so it was a bunch of driving as well.
But it def wasn't a leather SUV

Can ppl add into the wiki the names/numbers of the drivers they used (if they recommend them).
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 08, 2013, 05:42:17 PM
Ours may have been a bit lower.
It included Chiang Rai to Chiang Mai so it was a bunch of driving as well.
But it def wasn't a leather SUV

Can ppl add into the wiki the names/numbers of the drivers they used (if they recommend them).
drago. TR?

Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 10, 2013, 08:46:14 AM
do i hire a taxi thru the hotel or try to pick one up, when i arrive in Phuket airport?

i am looking at the mapping out, it seems like tiger kingdom is 50 min away from mae se elphant, does that make sense?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 10, 2013, 10:36:14 AM
do i hire a taxi thru the hotel or try to pick one up, when i arrive in Phuket airport?

i am looking at the mapping out, it seems like tiger kingdom is 50 min away from mae se elphant, does that make sense?
If you hire a driver for the day, they'll take you everywhere you want to go.
I'll try to find and post the sample itin's they gave me in a few hrs when I'm home.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 10, 2013, 10:41:11 AM
If you hire a driver for the day, they'll take you everywhere you want to go.
I'll try to find and post the sample itin's they gave me in a few hrs when I'm home.
Thanks. Im not worries about the driver.

Im arriving thurs at 820 am. Trying to take ajk's advice and do it all on thirs, but Not sure if i can get Mae se in bec the last ones at 130. Or should i try to do some thurs and some fri. And Sunday do either zip line or a tribes tour.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Drago on July 10, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
Thanks. Im not worries about the driver.

Im arriving thurs at 820 am. Trying to take ajk's advice and do it all on thirs, but Not sure if i can get Mae se in bec the last ones at 130. Or should i try to do some thurs and some fri. And Sunday do either zip line or a tribes tour.
A driver who you've already scheduled w/ is good b/c they can tell you how much stuff you can squeeze into a day, and you'll more flex than a cab.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 10, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
Paging AJK!

Any update on that Trip Report??? I'm putting all my Thailand plans on hold until I read your report :)
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: chuchem on July 10, 2013, 11:46:33 AM
Great news, seems Tiger Kingdom in Phuket opened yesterday
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 10, 2013, 12:15:38 PM
For those that flew out of the NY/NJ area, what was your airline,routing,class,how many miles and what was the taxes on the flight?

TIA
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 10, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
My wife is 95% finished. I should begin posting over the weekend, hopefully.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 10, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
Nice! Can't wait to read it.


@ Marco

I have a trip planned for late Dec/Jan - Used 120k UA + 15k Avios each for NY-MLE(6 days)-BKK(14 days)-HKG(2 days) all in J.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 10, 2013, 01:34:18 PM
For those that flew out of the NY/NJ area, what was your airline,routing,class,how many miles and what was the taxes on the flight?

TIA

JFK-YVR-HKG in CX J = $0.00 (don't ask).
HKG-CNX in KA Y = 7.5K BA + ~$45
CNX-USM in PG Y = $230
USM-BKK-...-FRA...-NYC in TG F and LH F = 70K UA + ~$125
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 10, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
Nice! Can't wait to read it.


@ Marco

I have a trip planned for late Dec/Jan - Used 120k UA + 15k Avios each for NY-MLE(6 days)-BKK(14 days)-HKG(2 days) all in J.
Thank you.
JFK-YVR-HKG in CX J = $0.00 (don't ask).
HKG-CNX in KA Y = 7.5K BA + ~$45
CNX-USM in PG Y = $230
USM-BKK-...-FRA...-NYC in TG F and LH F = 70K UA + ~$125
Any particular advantage to routing NYC-YVR-HKG? Lower bands to save on miles?
How was flying CX in J?
I need to figure out the best way to maximize my miles to get the higher class on the "longer flights" (NYC - HKG - CNX). Don't think i will get another 400K+ in BA miles to book it all through BA.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 10, 2013, 03:08:06 PM
It's just what was available. I highly recommend the non-stop if you can get it though. The 2 hour stop in YVR at 3am is a nightmare.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 10, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
It's just what was available. I highly recommend the non-stop if you can get it though. The 2 hour stop in YVR at 3am is a nightmare.
Any advice how far out i should be looking to book the flights? Are certain legs easier to find availability?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 10, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
Any advice how far out i should be looking to book the flights? Are certain legs easier to find availability?

Best time is >11 mos and <2 weeks.

Generally, the shorter the leg the easier to find.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: rots5 on July 10, 2013, 04:02:12 PM
My wife is 95% finished. I should begin posting over the weekend, hopefully.
thanks man! Waiting but working too on my own.

Thanks @drago. Im gonna put an itin together and then play it by air.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 10, 2013, 06:27:59 PM
JFK-YVR-HKG in CX J = $0.00 (don't ask).
HKG-CNX in KA Y = 7.5K BA + ~$45
CNX-USM in PG Y = $230
USM-BKK-...-FRA...-NYC in TG F and LH F = 70K UA + ~$125

My routing is a little different:

NYC-MXP....(10 hours during day)-IST-MLE in UA, TK J
MLE-SIN-BKK in SG J
BKK-USM-HKT-CNX-BKK in ???
BKK-HKG- in CX J
HKG-TPE-NYC in EVA J

Any thoughts/tips ?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 10, 2013, 06:44:34 PM
Lotta segments! :P

TG and PG and low cost thai carrier fly your intra thai routes. I'd look there.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 10, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
My routing is a little different:

NYC-MXP....(10 hours during day)-IST-MLE in UA, TK J
MLE-SIN-BKK in SG J
BKK-USM-HKT-CNX-BKK in ???
BKK-HKG- in CX J
HKG-TPE-NYC in EVA J

Any thoughts/tips ?
what did the miles cost per leg?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 10, 2013, 07:01:33 PM
Lotta segments! :P

TG and PG and low cost thai carrier fly your intra thai routes. I'd look there.

I know...my wife will kill me

Marco- NYC-BKK cost 60k UA in J
BKK-HKG- was 15k avios
HKG-NYC was 60k UA in J
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Marco Polo on July 10, 2013, 09:44:25 PM
I know...my wife will kill me

Marco- NYC-BKK cost 60k UA in J
BKK-HKG- was 15k avios
HKG-NYC was 60k UA in J

Thanks. Would love to get NYC-HKG in F for two. Not sure how realistic that is though.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 10, 2013, 09:58:13 PM
My routing is a little different:

NYC-MXP....(10 hours during day)-IST-MLE in UA, TK J
MLE-SIN-BKK in SG J
BKK-USM-HKT-CNX-BKK in ???
BKK-HKG- in CX J
HKG-TPE-NYC in EVA J

Any thoughts/tips ?
Plans in mxp?
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: businessmachine on July 10, 2013, 11:11:13 PM
Plans in mxp?

Still working on that. Definitely would like to do a little site seeing and try the kosher cuisine
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: MEIR613 on July 10, 2013, 11:17:42 PM
Thanks. Would love to get NYC-HKG in F for two. Not sure how realistic that is though.
Why not, it's 55K AA each way in J and 67.5 in F.

If you are planning way in advance and you are flexible, you should be able to find something.
Title: Re: Thailand Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on July 10, 2013, 11:24:35 PM
Still working on that. Definitely would like to do a little site seeing and try the kosher cuisine