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Title: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: MLM on July 27, 2010, 03:27:18 PM
Anyone been? I can fly into JAC? Car rental is a fortune for August 1 -6. Any ideas?  Is 5 days too long?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: steve2 on July 27, 2010, 03:39:07 PM
 when I went a few yrs ago I flew into SLC and drove from there via Idaho

if you think car rentals are bad , I take it you havent even looked at hotels yet. Best time is no different than Alaska either right before the summer or right afterwards
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: MLM on July 27, 2010, 03:50:18 PM
I just got tickets from LA for 25k on United direct flights. You are right i didnt look at hotels yet.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Monsey on July 27, 2010, 03:57:25 PM
I was there and think 5 days is a bit too long 3-4 days is sufficient for the parks and if you are flying back from slc or den or dont mind the drive then you should go to flaming gorge recreation area it is gorgeous
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: kivabb on July 27, 2010, 04:41:11 PM
Once your driving, consider Glacier National Park in Montana as well.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: steve2 on July 27, 2010, 04:52:55 PM
Once your driving, consider Glacier National Park in Montana as well.

 only prob is Id say its 400+ miles from West Yellowstone to Kalispell, true the main thing is driving the Road to the sun road, but I would want to spend alittle more time up there especially by the ever disappearing glaciers

 I would make Glacier a trip by itself and from there also Banff and Lake Louise and fly into Calgary
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on August 02, 2010, 01:50:46 AM
Both times I went I drove from the East coast so I don't know much about flying there... I know you can also fly to Cody wyoming, It's definitely farther but might work out better. (If you are in Cody check out the night rodeo, it's a lot of fun)

If you're not planning on doing any serious hiking you don't need more then a day there. (OK, in August 2 days. There's so many people and so much traffic it can take an entire day just to drive across the park)

If you have a choice between Yellowstone and Glacier go to Glacier.

Title: Yellowstone/Grand Tetons Summer Minyan
Post by: cephalotus on July 18, 2013, 10:48:30 PM
Hi,

Is there anyone travelling to Yellowstone or the Grand Tetons during 7/21-8/1 who would like to join our minyan in Jackson, WY?
Title: Re: Yellowstone/Grand Tetons Summer Minyan
Post by: bubkiz on July 18, 2013, 10:51:47 PM
Try godaven.com
Title: Re: Yellowstone/Grand Tetons Summer Minyan
Post by: Thingywingy on July 26, 2013, 01:43:55 AM
Hi,

Is there anyone travelling to Yellowstone or the Grand Tetons during 7/21-8/1 who would like to join our minyan in Jackson, WY?
i will be there for 2 days between 28th and 1st
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Thingywingy on July 26, 2013, 01:47:14 AM
Any well priced places to stay near Yellowstone?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 26, 2013, 08:43:31 AM
IIRC there's not much there in terms of chain hotels, you just gotta call around and see a) who has availability this late, and b) who's well priced.

Which direction are you coming in from? We came from the Gariner entrance and stayed by a hotel called the Absaroka lodge which was pretty decently priced and our room had a small kitchen and great views (I was Davening Shacharis on the patio one morning when a family of elk started gazing not 5 feet away from me).
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 26, 2013, 01:40:40 PM
Something Fishy inspired me to write up my Yellowstone TR from 2 years ago. Obviously my pics aren't anywhere near his but hopefully the TR will be helpful to others. Judging by the reaction of most of the people when I told them I was going/went to Yellowstone (Yellowhere? Is there a Kosher restaurant there? How about a Judaica souvenir shop? No? Than why in the world would you go there), it seems like it's not on the Frum radar for a vacation spot, which is a pity because it was probably my favorite vacation in the US.
So heads up, hopefully after Shabbos I'll have it.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: HP58 on July 26, 2013, 02:31:55 PM
Have you ever been to Utah (Bryce Zion Arches Canyonlands)? You thought Yellaowstone was nicer?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: sky121 on July 26, 2013, 02:40:44 PM
Something Fishy inspired me to write up my Yellowstone TR from 2 years ago. Obviously my pics aren't anywhere near his but hopefully the TR will be helpful to others. Judging by the reaction of most of the people when I told them I was going/went to Yellowstone (Yellowhere? Is there a Kosher restaurant there? How about a Judaica souvenir shop? No? Than why in the world would you go there), it seems like it's not on the Frum radar for a vacation spot, which is a pity because it was probably my favorite vacation in the US.
So heads up, hopefully after Shabbos I'll have it.

Can't wait to read it. I'm debating heading there in August.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SamKey on July 26, 2013, 04:27:16 PM
2 years ago I sat next to an engineer for the npa on a flight from DEN-BWI he was being flown in to assess the damage on the national monument after the earthquake. He told me that in his opinion the nicest National Park is Grand Teton
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 26, 2013, 04:36:10 PM
Judging by the reaction of most of the people when I told them I was going/went to Yellowstone (Yellowhere? Is there a Kosher restaurant there? How about a Judaica souvenir shop? No? Than why in the world would you go there), it seems like it's not on the Frum radar for a vacation spot, which is a pity because it was probably my favorite vacation in the US.
The first two times I was there (~10 years ago) the only other frum people I saw were a couple of bochurim on merkoz shlichus. (I should probably only count one of the times, as the other was during the offseason and there was practically nobody there.)
When I went last summer, I was only there for half a day and I must have met at least 6 frum families. So I think the frum world might be starting to discover Yellowstone...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: daganster on July 26, 2013, 04:37:15 PM
@Something Fishy
Dude, your pics are amazing. Is it really that nice or it's the camera?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 26, 2013, 04:39:34 PM
Something Fishy inspired me to write up my Yellowstone TR from 2 years ago. Obviously my pics aren't anywhere near his but hopefully the TR will be helpful to others. Judging by the reaction of most of the people when I told them I was going/went to Yellowstone (Yellowhere? Is there a Kosher restaurant there? How about a Judaica souvenir shop? No? Than why in the world would you go there), it seems like it's not on the Frum radar for a vacation spot, which is a pity because it was probably my favorite vacation in the US.
So heads up, hopefully after Shabbos I'll have it.

Now if only I could inspire myself to finish my own TR... :D:D:D
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 26, 2013, 04:43:46 PM
Have you ever been to Utah (Bryce Zion Arches Canyonlands)? You thought Yellaowstone was nicer?

I don't think the main strength of Yellowstone is its beauty (although it is amazingly beautiful). I think the one word to describe it would be "fascinating" - the geysers, hot springs, mud pots, etc.

But the Tetons in the other hand... absolutely breathtaking.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 26, 2013, 05:17:37 PM
The first two times I was there (~10 years ago) the only other frum people I saw were a couple of bochurim on merkoz shlichus. (I should probably only count one of the times, as the other was during the offseason and there was practically nobody there.)
When I went last summer, I was only there for half a day and I must have met at least 6 frum families. So I think the frum world might be starting to discover Yellowstone...
FunnyI didn't see anyone remotely Frum. The Shliach also told me that Frum people barely come by.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: sky121 on July 26, 2013, 05:19:20 PM
How many days would you recommend for Teton? Is there a lot to see without hiking if I'm going with some folks in their 70's?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 26, 2013, 05:23:22 PM
How many days would you recommend for Teton? Is there a lot to see without hiking if I'm going with some folks in their 70's?

2 days max if you're not hiking. Make sure to wake up for sunrise at Schwabacher Landing - it's the experience of a lifetime.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: sky121 on July 26, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
2 days max if you're not hiking. Make sure to wake up for sunrise at Schwabacher Landing - it's the experience of a lifetime.

Thanks.

Would I have to drive a lot to see a lot?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 26, 2013, 05:38:56 PM
Thanks.

Would I have to drive a lot to see a lot?

Not in the Tetons.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: sky121 on July 26, 2013, 05:41:25 PM
Thanks so much. Think I just picked a good August trip since Banff isn't working out.
 
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
OK Here goes:

So first thing you have to decide when you go to Yellowstone is which entrance youíll be coming in from. There are 5 entrances and each have their pros and cons.

 We ended up using the North entrance by Gardiner mainly because of the award availability at BZN. As it turned out, it seemed to work out real well for us because of the Altitude. Yellowstone is pretty high up, not high enough to cause serious issues but enough to cause my (then) pregnant wife some discomfort and shortness of breath. Turns out that the North entrance is the lowest one of the 5 helping us acclimatize by sleeping low.

The con is that if you are planning on visiting Grand Teton National Park then the North entrance is the farthest one.

Another thing to look into is someone to show you around, you can get a local guide for pretty cheap, or you can use a guidebook (we found Yellowstone Treasures  (http://www.amazon.com/Yellowstone-Treasures-Travelers-Companion-ebook/dp/B0038BZON6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374862003&sr=8-1&keywords=yellowstone+treasures) to be an excellent resource). We ended up using a Gaper Guide (http://www.gaperguide.com/) which is basically like a GPS for Yellowstone. As you drive around the park it points out different landmarks and points of interest, suggests various hikes and gives interesting anecdotes about the parkís history.


Day 1

We landed at BZN and picked up our rental car then spent the rest of the day in Bozeman picking up supplies at walmart, looking for anything Kosher at the local health food stores and dropping off a few packages of Kosher goodies at the local Shluchim. In the evening we headed out towards Yellowstone and got to Gardiner at around 11 (it gets dark really late in the summer, another plus because you can be out seeing stuff until 9-10 PM).

We stayed at a hotel called the Absaroka Lodge, a nice family owned place with beautiful views. Every room has a porch or patio overlooking the Yellowstone River and Elk come right up to the patios all the time. Itís very Heimish (when we arrived there was a homemade brownie on the table waiting for us). We stayed in a ĎKitchen Suiteí which had a small kitchenette where we could prepare our meals. We arrived at around 11, there was no one at the desk but they left us an envelope with our key and room number along with instructions to come by the next morning to check in.

Day 2

After Davening and eating breakfast with a family of Elk it was time to explore. We picked up our Gaper Guide and headed to the park.

Looking at the map you can see that the roads make a loop (actually a figure 8) called the Grand Loop Road. The Gardiner entrance is on the northwest, it joins the loop right at Mammoth Hot Springs. Being that we had 2 days to do the park, we decided to do the west side of the loop on the first day and then the east side the next day (though for some reason (I canít remember now why) we decided to skip Mammoth Hot Springs and leave them for the next day).

So starting at the entrance we passed Mammoth Hot Springs. Somewhere along the road we saw steam coming out of the side of the road so we stopped to see our first hot springs. I guess I always imagined a hot spring to be something no hotter than a hot bath, but here we saw 3 small holes in the ground with water seemingly going down forever, and bubbling away like a pot of soup, that was when I realized what the hot in Ďhot springsí meant.

We then stopped at Norris Geyser Basin which has many thermal features, including Steamboat Geyser which is known as the tallest Geyser in the world. When it erupts it blows water over 300 feet into the air! Trouble is itís highly unpredictable, and intervals between eruptions can last anywhere from a few days to 50 years (the last eruption was in 2005).

Continuing along the loop, we reached Lower Geyser Basin which has a small loop drive through it, while driving we came across a Geyser that had a few people waiting near it, turns out itís a small Geyser called White Dome Geyser with an interval of ~40 minutes, it last erupted 30 minutes ago so it was due soon. We decided to wait a bit, but even predictable geysers are not always reliable and after 20 minutes the sun did us in and we left (due to the altitude, the sun is ruthless. Take plenty of sunscreen and be really generous with it, even if you never burn).

We continued on the loop to Midway Geyser Basin, home to the Grand Prismatic Spring. There is no way to describe the awesomeness of the Grand Prismatic. All the famous pictures of it are taken from the air, and focus on the pretty color but from the ground you are struck by the sheer magnitude. Itís a huge spring 250 by 300 feet, pumping out 600 gallons of boiling hot water per minute.

From there we got to the bottom of the loop and the Old Faithfull area. We parked at the visitor center and were glad to note that Old Faithfull was due to erupt any minute. We quickly headed outside and saw an amazing site. A huge crowd, hundreds strong, was sitting around a HUGE circle, looking at a bump in the ground with some steam coming out of it.
Old faithful is known to erupt every 90 minutes +\- 10 minutes. We arrived at the beginning of this 20 minute Ďgrace periodí and apparently just to spite us the geyser decided to take an extra-long interval passing the 90 minute mark and then waiting another 15 minutes before it erupted. As you can imagine, the crowd was getting more and more impatient. In the meantime we saw Grand Geyser erupt in the distance (Grand is bigger but less predictable then Old Faithfull).
Finally after 25 minutes of waiting we were rewarded with a spectacular eruption. I was hyping myself up the whole day to see a real geyser and yet I was amazed by the raw power that can send boiling water 160 feet into the air for a full minute.
When it was finally over we decided to head back. At 6PM there was another 3 hours of daylight which could have easily been filled at the Old Faithful area, but the altitude and my wifeís pregnancy was getting to her so we headed back to the hotel for supper.

That night was the Perseid meteor shower, so after it got dark we drove up to some dark hill in the area to catch some meteors. If you are an astronomy geek, or even if you just like looking at stars Yellowstone is an awesome place. The high altitude and the clear mountain air make for amazing star watching.

Day 2


We started today by Mammoth Hot Springs with its famous terraces, then continued towards the east part of the loop. The east loop has less thermal features and more scenery and wildlife (although there is plenty of both wherever you are in Yellowstone).

We started through the North Range, all the while stopping for ďAnimal JamsĒ where traffic comes to a standstill because someone spotted a bear or a bull elk. Eventually we arrived at the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, which while obviously doesnít compare in size with THE Grand Canyon is still really pretty, and the lower falls are probably one of the most photogenic spots in the park after Old Faithful.

We then stopped at the Mud Volcano, which is basically a cave churning out wave after wave of boiling hot mud and steam.

From there the drive took a turn for the scenic along Lake Yellowstone. We drove all around it until we got to West Thumb Geyser Basin, a Geyser Basin on the shore of Yellowstone Lake (some of the Geysers are underwater). We then completed the circuit at Old Faithful, again coming just on time to catch a beautiful eruption, then it was back to the hotel for supper and bed.

The next morning we checked out and headed back to BZN for home.


Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 03:40:20 PM
1. View from the hotel
2. Visitors
3. Gibson Falls
4. Our first Hot Spring
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
5. A mud pot at Norris Geyser Basin
6. Grand Prismatic Spring (partial view)
7-8. Old Faithful
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 03:43:28 PM
9-10. Mammoth Hot Springs
11. The North Range
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 03:44:30 PM
12-13. Grand Canyon
14. Mud Volcano
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 03:45:43 PM
15. Lake Yellowstone
16-17 West Thumb Geyser Basin
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 03:46:46 PM
18. Bull Elk
19. Bison
20. Mountain Goat
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Zevwolf on July 28, 2013, 08:35:46 PM
Which airline did you take and what miles did you use?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 28, 2013, 08:48:06 PM
OK Here goes:

Awesome report!

I'm a bit jealous, you saw so much of Yellowstone :'(. I spent most of the time in the Tetons - can't wait to go back and do Yellowstone properly.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 28, 2013, 08:57:52 PM
Which airline did you take and what miles did you use?
Delta Skypessos. Shocking I know but that was in the days before I was on DDF.

Awesome report!

I'm a bit jealous, you saw so much of Yellowstone :'(. I spent most of the time in the Tetons - can't wait to go back and do Yellowstone properly.
Lol I was jealous of you because I didn't get a chance to do the Tetons.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 29, 2013, 08:18:29 PM
Delta Skypessos. Shocking I know but that was in the days before I was on DDF.
Lol I was jealous of you because I didn't get a chance to do the Tetons.
+1

Fishy, your pictures have me actually considering going back there again on my way back east, seeing what I've been missing by never doing Grand Teton properly...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 29, 2013, 08:36:19 PM
What I'm dying to do is go back to Yellowstone in the winter, it's out of this world, not to mention minus the tourists.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 29, 2013, 08:56:11 PM
What I'm dying to do is go back to Yellowstone in the winter, it's out of this world, not to mention minus the tourists.
I was there end of May / beginning of June (I don't remember exactly) and it was still winter-ish. It was absolutely deserted. IIRC it snowed when we were there.
I wanted to come in from the beartooth highway but it was still closed for the winter, other than that I think the rest of the park was open...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on July 29, 2013, 09:00:28 PM
I was there end of May / beginning of June (I don't remember exactly) and it was still winter-ish. It was absolutely deserted. IIRC it snowed when we were there.
I wanted to come in from the beartooth highway but it was still closed for the winter, other than that I think the rest of the park was open...

Dude told me he backcountry skies it during the winter, and then goes to the hotsprings and dips in the middle of nowhere (he knows which are safe)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on July 29, 2013, 09:19:54 PM
Dude told me he backcountry skies it during the winter, and then goes to the hotsprings and dips in the middle of nowhere (he knows which are safe)
Now that's how to spend a winter's day...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Ergel on August 02, 2013, 01:21:04 PM
Seems like a proper trip requires a shabbos, no? Seems impossible to do enough sun-Fri, correct (hence you skipping out on Yellowstone)?
Any places for shabbos driving distance?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on August 02, 2013, 01:28:19 PM
Seems like a proper trip requires a shabbos, no? Seems impossible to do enough sun-Fri, correct (hence you skipping out on Yellowstone)?
Any places for shabbos driving distance?

I'd say so. There's a Shliach in Jackson who provides meals (and sometimes a minyan) IIRC. I have a friend who did that and was quite pleased.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: sky121 on October 23, 2013, 12:06:46 AM
http://www.photographyblogger.net/god-beam-surreal-light-over-the-tetons-by-grant-ordelheide/
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mendoul on February 06, 2014, 10:04:55 AM
can we do Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park in the winter or is better to wait for the summer?

thank you
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on February 06, 2014, 10:21:57 AM
can we do Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park in the winter or is better to wait for the summer?

thank you
It's supposed to be amazing in the winter but more challenging, most of the park doesn't get plowed and can only be accessed by snowmobile.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 01, 2015, 01:59:05 AM
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 07, 2015, 10:44:34 PM
Hi, 1)is Yellowstone and Tetons park kids accessible? 2)Is chal hamoad Pesach a good idea going there? (beginning of April)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 07, 2015, 10:45:43 PM
Hi, 1)is Yellowstone and Tetons park kids accessible? 2)Is chal hamoad Pesach a good idea going there? (beginning of April)

1) Absolutely
2) May still be very cold. We had snow in June.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 07, 2015, 10:48:42 PM
1) Absolutely
2) May still be very cold. We had snow in June.
Thanks, that was quick... actually just saw that the average weather in April is 35f so I'm thinking of doing it this summer, where should i spend more time? (thinking of going Sunday-Wednesday) Yes i know I'm early but its never too early to plan a vacation :)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 07, 2015, 10:56:43 PM
Thanks, that was quick... actually just saw that the average weather in April is 35f so I'm thinking of doing it this summer, where should i spend more time? (thinking of going Sunday-Wednesday) Yes i know I'm early but its never too early to plan a vacation :)

Sunday-Wednesday is quite short, especially if you're not planning on flying into JAC. In any case, I'd say one day in the Tetons and the rest in Yellowstone. If you could stay longer maybe do two days in the Tetons.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 08, 2015, 09:55:54 AM
1) Absolutely
2) May still be very cold. We had snow in June.
Just want to confirm, that it is kids accessible "even with a stroller" Also, is it safe with all the wildlife there?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 08, 2015, 09:58:48 AM
Just want to confirm, that it is kids accessible "even with a stroller" Also, is it safe with all the wildlife there?
Much of Yellowstone is stroller accessible.

You should be fine with the wildlife as long as you don't do anything stupid (read: taking a selfy while riding on the back of a bison is NOT a good idea...)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
Much of Yellowstone is stroller accessible.

You should be fine with the wildlife as long as you don't do anything stupid (read: taking a selfy while riding on the back of a bison is NOT a good idea...)

Now that would be an EPIC picture.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 08, 2015, 10:08:33 AM
Much of Yellowstone is stroller accessible.

You should be fine with the wildlife as long as you don't do anything stupid (read: taking a selfy while riding on the back of a bison is NOT a good idea...)
And tetons park is also kids accessible? (I saw that there are Gondola's there.)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 10:12:57 AM
And tetons park is also kids accessible? (I saw that there are Gondola's there.)

Yes.

They're are no gondolas in the park, but there might be some in Jackson or Teton Village just outside.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 08, 2015, 10:16:15 AM
Yes.

They're are no gondolas in the park, but there might be some in Jackson or Teton Village just outside.
Thanks. I guess I'll plan out the details closer to the summer  
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on January 08, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
taking a selfy while riding on the back of a bison is NOT a good idea...
And if you try to take a picture of the bison that's 6" away from your open car window with a crappy camera you'll probably just end up with a picture like this:
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Sport on January 08, 2015, 12:42:51 PM
I wouldn't take young kids to Yellowstone, unless they're fine sitting in a car for long stretches of time. There's alot of driving and getting in and out of the car. Unless of course you just do one area which I recommend anyways.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on January 08, 2015, 03:49:59 PM
I aint takin' my kids to national pahks.  Just rentin' a cabin in a pretty spot and letting them runnaround and go fishin' and grill meat.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 08, 2015, 07:44:41 PM
I wouldn't take young kids to Yellowstone, unless they're fine sitting in a car for long stretches of time. There's alot of driving and getting in and out of the car. Unless of course you just do one area which I recommend anyways.
Were you there? Which "one area" are you referring to?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 08, 2015, 08:10:07 PM
Were you there? Which "one area" are you referring to?
I guess you can spend a few hours in the Lower Geyser Basin (Old Faithful area) sitting around and waiting for geysers to erupt. Most geysers there are wheelchair accessible. Good luck keeping your kids entertained for the time it takes though...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on January 08, 2015, 08:24:26 PM
I wouldn't take young kids to Yellowstone, unless they're fine sitting in a car for long stretches of time. There's alot of driving and getting in and out of the car. Unless of course you just do one area which I recommend anyways.
-1
I don't think there's anything particularly kid-unfriendly about Yellowstone. Sure you'll have to drive a little to get to the different areas, but you're (almost) always right near somewhere to stop with something to see/do if you want.
If your kids can't sit in a car for a half an hour then you're screwed no matter where you go...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on January 08, 2015, 08:29:10 PM
Good luck keeping your kids entertained for the time it takes though...
+1, always assume that you'll get to Old Faithful right after it erupted and you'll need to sit around waiting for an hour and 20 minutes :)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 08, 2015, 08:31:42 PM
+1, always assume that you'll get to Old Faithful right after it erupted and you'll need to sit around waiting for an hour and 20 minutes :)
lol in that sense we were lucky. Old Faithful always erupted for us as soon as we walked out the doors of the Visitors Center :P
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 09:19:24 PM
http://geysertimes.org/

Problem solved.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 08, 2015, 09:25:33 PM
http://geysertimes.org/

Problem solved.
Thanks. But what do i have from knowing the "last" eruption? Any way of figuring out when the next one will be?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 09:26:51 PM
Thanks. But what do i have from knowing the "last" eruption? Any way of figuring out when the next one will be?


you'll need to sit around waiting for an hour and 20 minutes :)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 08, 2015, 09:27:32 PM
http://geysertimes.org/

Problem solved.
The predicted times are anywhere between +/- 10 min to +/- 1 hour...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Sport on January 08, 2015, 09:30:03 PM

-1
I don't think there's anything particularly kid-unfriendly about Yellowstone. Sure you'll have to drive a little to get to the different areas, but you're (almost) always right near somewhere to stop with something to see/do if you want.
If your kids can't sit in a car for a half an hour then you're screwed no matter where you go...
I recall sitting in the car for over an hour several times a day while trying to make my way through the park.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 09:30:23 PM
The predicted times are anywhere between +/- 10 min to +/- 1 hour...

For some of the more unpredictable geysers. But Old Faithful is called that for a reason - it's predictable. Using that site you know when the last one was, hence you know when the next one will be give or take a few short minutes.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Sport on January 08, 2015, 09:32:45 PM

Were you there? Which "one area" are you referring to?
yes twice, into the only part realy worth seeing is the grand canyon of Yellowstone. I know there's no way that someone going for the first time will pass up on seeing the geysers and hot springs. But there not worth the schlep especially with children. Exception being old faithful.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 08, 2015, 09:36:27 PM
yes twice, into the only part realy worth seeing is the grand canyon of Yellowstone. I know there's no way that someone going for the first time will pass up on seeing the geysers and hot springs. But there not worth the schlep especially with children. Exception being old faithful.
Oh. So I'm a bit confused. The main thing there is the grand canyon? I was actually in the real grand canyon in AZ. And i wouldn't go to Yellowstone in that case.
Title: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Sport on January 08, 2015, 09:37:55 PM
Oh. So I'm a bit confused. The main thing there is the grand canyon? I was actually in the real grand canyon in AZ. And i wouldn't go to Yellowstone in that case.
very different,
Again thus is my opinion. You may enjoy aspects of nature that I don't.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 08, 2015, 10:02:59 PM
For some of the more unpredictable geysers. But Old Faithful is called that for a reason - it's predictable. Using that site you know when the last one was, hence you know when the next one will be give or take a few short minutes.

Old Faithful is +/- 10 minutes (i.e. a 20 minute range), the more unpredictable ones have ranges within a few hours....

http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/geyseractivity.htm
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 10:18:47 PM
Old Faithful is +/- 10 minutes (i.e. a 20 minute range)

Yes, and that was what the conversation was about.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 10:24:28 PM
yes twice, into the only part realy worth seeing is the grand canyon of Yellowstone. I know there's no way that someone going for the first time will pass up on seeing the geysers and hot springs. But there not worth the schlep especially with children. Exception being old faithful.

-1000000

I'd like to see anyone with a soul - kid or adult - not being in utter and complete awe of the Hayden Valley. Of the boiling water pouring into the Firehole River. Of the insane Minerva Terraces. Of Grand Prismatic Spring. Of the countless wildlife at each and every turn.

If something the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone is one of the more boring places (relatively speaking, it's still not to be missed).
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 08, 2015, 10:33:04 PM

If something the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone is one of the more boring places (relatively speaking, it's still not to be missed).
+1
While it's definitely more amazing than anything I can find in Brooklyn I wouldn't say it was the highlight of our trip...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Sport on January 08, 2015, 10:44:49 PM

-1000000

I'd like to see anyone with a soul - kid or adult - not being in utter and complete awe of the Hayden Valley. Of the boiling water pouring into the Firehole River. Of the insane Minerva Terraces. Of Grand Prismatic Spring. Of the countless wildlife at each and every turn.

If something the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone is one of the more boring places (relatively speaking, it's still not to be missed).
+1
While it's definitely more amazing than anything I can find in Brooklyn I wouldn't say it was the highlight of our trip...
apparently we appreciate different aspects of nature.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 08, 2015, 10:58:56 PM
apparently we appreciate different aspects of nature.
Don't get me wrong, the Grand Canyon IS amazing. There's just so many amazing sights in Yellowstone...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 11:16:47 PM
apparently we appreciate different aspects of nature.

I guess to each their own :D
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on January 08, 2015, 11:17:10 PM
Don't get me wrong, the Grand Canyon IS amazing. There's just so many amazing sights in Yellowstone...

Precisely!
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on January 09, 2015, 08:16:55 AM
I love the out of doors and nature, but I'm not sure I see myself sitting in Yellowstone traffic for a week so that my kids can see some stuff that they don't even know enough to know is cool. I'd rather take them hiking in the Adirondacks or someat.

Edit: I'd rather take them hiking in yellowstone.  Did you know that something like 90% of visitors to the park don't get more than a mile off the pavement?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 10, 2015, 08:11:17 PM
I guess you can spend a few hours in the Lower Geyser Basin (Old Faithful area) sitting around and waiting for geysers to erupt. Most geysers there are wheelchair accessible. Good luck keeping your kids entertained for the time it takes though...
I received today the book that you recommended: Yellowstone treasures, it has all my questions answered + many other info. Thanks
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 10, 2015, 08:18:52 PM
I received today the book that you recommended: Yellowstone treasures, it has all my questions answered + many other info. Thanks
Did you get the latest version? Yellowstone is a very dynamic place, things change all the time (especially info regarding the thermal features etc.)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 10, 2015, 08:22:23 PM
Did you get the latest version? Yellowstone is a very dynamic place, things change all the time (especially info regarding the thermal features etc.)
4'th addition 2011 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0970687389
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 10, 2015, 08:45:24 PM
4'th addition 2011 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0970687389
The link you posted shows the 2013 edition....
I thought there was a later one, I guess not...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 10, 2015, 09:00:58 PM
Oh. Correct its 2013
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 21, 2015, 11:06:38 PM
How is the bear safety in the park? from reading books and brochures like this one on the second page (http://yellowstonenationalpark.com/planner.htm) it sounds like a serious concern. Is it just like the Catskills or scarier?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Achas Veachas on January 22, 2015, 09:55:30 AM
How is the bear safety in the park? from reading books and brochures like this one on the second page (http://yellowstonenationalpark.com/planner.htm) it sounds like a serious concern. Is it just like the Catskills or scarier?
If you are not planning on going off the road then you have nothing at all to worry about from bears.

If you plan on doing back country hiking just follow instructions and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on January 22, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
If you are not planning on going off the road then you have nothing at all to worry about from bears.

If you plan on doing back country hiking just follow instructions and you'll be fine.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: bilbo baggins on January 22, 2015, 10:16:18 AM
Took my kids and on a 3 week trip a few years back to Yosemite- absolutely gorgeous!  have been thinking about Yellowstone, been looking at taking the "Empire Builder" (northern route) on Amtrak out of Chicago, getting off at Glacier Park, MT, then driving south to Yellowstone, and continuing to Denver to fly out.  Empire route is supposed to be very pretty (although not sure of the car rental rates one-way from Glacier...).
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on January 19, 2016, 08:08:58 AM
Planing a Yellowstone trip this summer with 4 kids 7/4 -7/13. Anyone else going around then? It's seems like I am going to need to buy and leave there a grill, cooler, microwave/toaster over. Looking to split it with some who will be there before or after me.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 03, 2016, 12:12:43 PM
Planing a Yellowstone trip this summer with 4 kids 7/4 -7/13. Anyone else going around then? It's seems like I am going to need to buy and leave there a grill, cooler, microwave/toaster over. Looking to split it with some who will be there before or after me.
Bump
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yslkwd on July 17, 2016, 12:41:43 AM
I'm planning a Yellowstone/grand Teton trip in August
I would appreciate if anyone could give me their favorite sites in both
thanks
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Sport on July 17, 2016, 09:10:23 AM
I'm planning a Yellowstone/grand Teton trip in August
I would appreciate if anyone could give me their favorite sites in both
thanks
Kayaking on  Jenny lake. Dont waste too much time going to the geysers.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yitzshpitz on July 17, 2016, 11:14:01 AM
Kayaking on  Jenny lake. Dont waste too much time going to the geysers.

+1

The geysers are cool in the beginning but after a few of the classic ones (old faithful...) it gets repetitive. I did one day doing different trails that had geysers, that was more than enough.
The canyon there is absolutely stunning (some people think its as nice as the Grand Canyon, although very different) Also, there is phenomenal whute water rafting in the area if that your thing. Those were my favorite 2 things when I went.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 18, 2016, 01:13:12 AM
Yup. Deffinetly don't miss the canyon. I was there at sunset and it was unreal.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 18, 2016, 11:46:47 AM
There's a fairly short but quite steep (it's basically one long switchback all the way down) trail that takes you right to the top of the waterfall. I can't remember the name of it right now but I've done it a couple of times and I'd recommend it. The trail itself is rather boring but it has the advantage of being stroller-friendly and the "payoff" at the end is quite nice.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 18, 2016, 12:02:50 PM
There's a fairly short but quite steep (it's basically one long switchback all the way down) trail that takes you right to the top of the waterfall. I can't remember the name of it right now but I've done it a couple of times, and I'd recommend it. The trail itself is rather boring but it has the advantage of being stroller-friendly and the "payoff" at the end is quite nice.
I should've been a little clearer, (it's probably obvious once you've been there, but I shouldn't assume everybody knows what I'm talking about) the waterfall I'm talking about is the lower falls, it's in the Canyon Village area.

For seeing wildlife, (particularly bison,) IME the best place has always been the Hayden valley area. i.e. the area between Canyon Village and the Lake.
I was told by a ranger that the road at the northern part of the park,  between mammoth springs and where you get the road heading down to canyon village is supposed to be good for seeing bears but when I went there we didn't see anything at all. (I wouldn't judge based only on that. I was in Yellowstone for one day on this trip and drove through most of the park, it was pretty rainy that day and save for a few deer/elk we didn't see any animals anywhere.)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 18, 2016, 01:28:54 PM
There's a fairly short but quite steep (it's basically one long switchback all the way down) trail that takes you right to the top of the waterfall. I can't remember the name of it right now but I've done it a couple of times, and I'd recommend it. The trail itself is rather boring but it has the advantage of being stroller-friendly and the "payoff" at the end is quite nice.
+1
Definitely worthwhile as well.
Title: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yakrot on July 18, 2016, 01:49:48 PM
I should've been a little clearer, (it's probably obvious once you've been there, but I shouldn't assume everybody knows what I'm talking about) the waterfall I'm talking about is the lower falls, it's in the Canyon Village area.

For seeing wildlife, (particularly bison,) IME the best place has always been the Hayden valley area. i.e. the area between Canyon Village and the Lake.
I was told by a ranger that the road at the northern part of the park,  between mammoth springs and where you get the road heading down to canyon village is supposed to be good for seeing bears but when I went there we didn't see anything at all. (I wouldn't judge based only on that. I was in Yellowstone for one day on this trip and drove through most of the park, it was pretty rainy that day and save for a few deer/elk we didn't see any animals anywhere.)
I believe it's called either uncle toms trail or uncle toms cabin trail +1 I really enjoyed it as well
Edit: I'm talking about a diff trail that is not stroller friendly basically a bunch of steps to get a real good view of the lower waterfall. If you have kids then you are stuck with this trail of not skip it for uncle toms...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 18, 2016, 01:57:08 PM
I believe it's called either uncle toms trail or uncle toms cabin trail +1 I really enjoyed it as well
Edit: I'm talking about a diff trail that is not stroller friendly basically a bunch of steps to get a real good view of the lower waterfall. If you have kids then you are stuck with this trail of not skip it for uncle toms...

Uncle Toms is the exact opposite of stroller friendly...

+1 on Hayden Valley, there's a good reason its called the Serengeti of the west. Also the Antelope Flats area of the Tetons usually has a high concentration of wildlife.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yakrot on July 18, 2016, 01:57:54 PM
Cmiiw the trail Whyme is talking about takes you right on top of the falls right where I have drawn an arrow(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160718/aa744e5edef55fec1d224edb19d8a543.jpg)
The trail in talking about is where I took this pic
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 18, 2016, 02:16:49 PM


Cmiiw the trail Whyme is talking about takes you right on top of the falls right where I have drawn an arrow
yes, exactly.

Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 20, 2016, 08:04:02 AM
yes, exactly.
It's called lower falls, it's 600 feet downhill. I just did it with a stroller. Every one passing me though I was nuts. Most ppl have baby carriers.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 20, 2016, 08:06:52 AM
I'm planning a Yellowstone/grand Teton trip in August
I would appreciate if anyone could give me their favorite sites in both
thanks
Just got back from Yellowstone. How many days are you planning to stay in a park ? How many kids and what ages ? Where are you staying ?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yslkwd on July 21, 2016, 12:14:29 AM
Sunday to Thursday
me my wife and little baby
staying as of now in Driggs Idaho
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 21, 2016, 12:23:36 AM
staying as of now in Driggs Idaho

You realize that that's a 4-hour drive to Yellowstone, right? Even to the Tetons it's a very difficult 1-hour drive over Teton Pass.

Doesn't sound remotely practical to me, let alone with a baby.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on July 21, 2016, 12:34:07 AM
You realize that that's a 4-hour drive to Yellowstone, right? Even to the Tetons it's a very difficult 1-hour drive over Teton Pass.

Doesn't sound remotely practical to me, let alone with a baby.

The drive over is excllent
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 21, 2016, 12:35:33 AM
The drive over is excllent

Not if it rains... Very steep grade and very high up. Not something most people want to drive twice a day.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 21, 2016, 12:35:59 AM
You realize that that's a 4-hour drive to Yellowstone, right? Even to the Tetons it's a very difficult 1-hour drive over Teton Pass.

Doesn't sound remotely practical to me, let alone with a baby.

Driggs to the West Yellowstone entrance is two hours, but its a fun drive (I had to stop for cows in the road). Then again I am not sure I would want to do it everyday. Then you are going to need to drive all around Yellowstone. Its not really all that practical. If its not too late, see if you can get a place in Big Sky MT. Its a little less than an hour from West Yellowstone and there is what to do in Big Sky itself. If you PM me, I can give you the number of place we stayed at, it cost us $200 on Airbnb (I used the gift cards from the Amex promo,so it netted me around $100 a night) for a nice three bedroom townhouse.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 21, 2016, 12:38:36 AM
Driggs to the West Yellowstone entrance is two hours

Right on that count, my mistake. For some reason I timed it to the East entrance instead of West ::).
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yitzshpitz on July 21, 2016, 12:51:23 AM
Driggs to the West Yellowstone entrance is two hours, but its a fun drive (I had to stop for cows in the road). Then again I am not sure I would want to do it everyday. Then you are going to need to drive all around Yellowstone. Its not really all that practical. If its not too late, see if you can get a place in Big Sky MT. Its a little less than an hour from West Yellowstone and there is what to do in Big Sky itself. If you PM me, I can give you the number of place we stayed at, it cost us $200 on Airbnb (I used the gift cards from the Amex promo,so it netted me around $100 a night) for a nice three bedroom townhouse.

Finding hotels is the hardest part of Yellowstone trip. Everything is an hour deive from any hotel. Near Jackson Hole through a chabad discount we found something nice, close to white water rafting and other stuff but not that close to yellowstone.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yakrot on July 21, 2016, 01:09:40 AM
That's why you have to stay at old faithful inn
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 21, 2016, 08:32:41 AM
That's why you have to stay at old faithful inn
And you probably made your reservation a year in advance and paid a pretty penny for a room. Are the rooms even nice ? What type of hotel would you compare it to?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yakrot on July 21, 2016, 10:43:25 AM
And you probably made your reservation a year in advance and paid a pretty penny for a room. Are the rooms even nice ? What type of hotel would you compare it to?
Crazy story...I booked my room the day of my stay iirc it was $200 (all lodging is controlled by the national parks, so the prices are kept relatively low) it's really hard to compare it to anything else.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yitzshpitz on July 21, 2016, 11:11:51 AM
And you probably made your reservation a year in advance and paid a pretty penny for a room. Are the rooms even nice ? What type of hotel would you compare it to?

+1

I tried 3 months in advance and they were pretty much booked.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 21, 2016, 12:10:48 PM
Did anyone here consider camping in the park?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on July 21, 2016, 12:16:12 PM
Did anyone here consider camping in the park?

Yah. Did.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: shulem92 on July 21, 2016, 12:37:46 PM
That's why you have to stay at old faithful inn
+1
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 21, 2016, 12:50:14 PM
Did anyone here consider camping in the park?
Wife would not hear of it. Maybe we should do a Yellowstone DO and do some serious camping and hiking. We might even get a chance to use our bear sprays.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yslkwd on July 21, 2016, 11:45:53 PM
Driggs is 2 hours from west yellowstone or south yellowstone going through grand teton
I was thinking to go through grand teton 2 days, starting there and driving 1 side of the loop each day.  And continuing to see a little in yellowstone and the other days to go through west yellowstone
Also I'm flying through JAC which is less than an hour to hotel
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: csl1 on July 22, 2016, 12:34:23 PM
We are planning a 7 day trip to Grand Teton in the end of August. We were originally considering staying in Driggs, ID due to cheaper lodging (and less rustic accomodations) but realized that it is over an hour's drive to the major hiking areas where we want to be. To us, we don't think it's worthwhile spending so much time on the road when we can be in Teton Village. Enjoy your trip.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 22, 2016, 12:39:18 PM
Driggs is 2 hours from west yellowstone or south yellowstone going through grand teton
I was thinking to go through grand teton 2 days, starting there and driving 1 side of the loop each day.  And continuing to see a little in yellowstone and the other days to go through west yellowstone
Also I'm flying through JAC which is less than an hour to hotel

Got Ya, I am not sure how much timing you are planing to spend in Grand Teton, but if are not going to do hikes, I think 1 day should be enough. Save the extra time for Yellowstone, there is so much more to see there. I spent 2 full days in Yellowstone and I missed a few things. Wish I had another day or so, but I was traveling with 4 little kids, so we needed to take a days off in between so they keep their sanity.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: csl1 on July 22, 2016, 01:20:18 PM
did you go to Grand Teton at all?  or was this an exclusively Yellowstone trip
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 22, 2016, 01:29:38 PM
did you go to Grand Teton at all?  or was this an exclusively Yellowstone trip
Yeah, we spent a day and half in Grand Teton. Did Inspiration Point hike at Jenni lake. It was awesome, but due to the ages of my kids we did not do any other hikes. Would have love to do more. 
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 22, 2016, 02:20:53 PM
Yeah, we spent a day and half in Grand Teton. Did Inspiration Point hike at Jenni lake. It was awesome, but due to the ages of my kids we did not do any other hikes. Would have love to do more.
+1
on Jenni lake from the best boating I've ever done.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yslkwd on July 22, 2016, 03:24:37 PM
Got Ya, I am not sure how much timing you are planing to spend in Grand Teton, but if are not going to do hikes, I think 1 day should be enough. Save the extra time for Yellowstone, there is so much more to see there. I spent 2 full days in Yellowstone and I missed a few things. Wish I had another day or so, but I was traveling with 4 little kids, so we needed to take a days off in between so they keep their sanity.

Which things do you see in Yellowstone?
can you rank them?
We're probably only going to do  one hike  (Jenny Lake) just figured going trough Grand teton doesn't add much extra time than straight to west yellowstone so we can spend 2 partial days there and continue to south yellowstone
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: csl1 on July 22, 2016, 03:57:57 PM
Yeah, we spent a day and half in Grand Teton. Did Inspiration Point hike at Jenni lake. It was awesome, but due to the ages of my kids we did not do any other hikes. Would have love to do more.

we are going with two children ages 6 and 9 and hope to iyh be hiking in Grand Teton, in addition to  the boating, fishing and wildlife viewing. Thank you Something Fishy for your trip report for the sunrise locations.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 22, 2016, 04:51:15 PM
Which things do you see in Yellowstone?
can you rank them?
We're probably only going to do  one hike  (Jenny Lake) just figured going trough Grand teton doesn't add much extra time than straight to west yellowstone so we can spend 2 partial days there and continue to south yellowstone

1) Old Faithful
2) Grand Prismatic
3) Canyon (all I did was Lower Falls, but there is Upper Falls and Uncle Toms lookout as well) 
4) Monmouth Hot Springs and Boiling River (but they are at the North entrance- if you are short of time then I would skip these)
5) Random stops at additional thermal features.
6) Drive thru Lemar Valley at dusk to see wildlife. (I didn't see much, I am bit confused if I even drove thru it)
7) Drive thru Haden Valley at dusk to see wildlife. (I didn't see much more than in the park during the day)

Guys, what else did I miss ?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 22, 2016, 04:55:26 PM
we are going with two children ages 6 and 9 and hope to iyh be hiking in Grand Teton, in addition to  the boating, fishing and wildlife viewing. Thank you Something Fishy for your trip report for the sunrise locations.
What grade in your 9 year old in? There is a program for free entrance fee to the parks if your child is in 4th grade. I believe it's finishing 4th grade, not entering 4th grade. You need to get some paperwork first.

There are also great Junior Ranger activity books and classes for the kids. They kept my kids busy during the long drives.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yitzshpitz on July 22, 2016, 06:59:06 PM
1) Old Faithful
2) Grand Prismatic
3) Canyon (all I did was Lower Falls, but there is Upper Falls and Uncle Toms lookout as well) 
4) Monmouth Hot Springs and Boiling River (but they are at the North entrance- if you are short of time then I would skip these)
5) Random stops at additional thermal features.
6) Drive thru Lemar Valley at dusk to see wildlife. (I didn't see much, I am bit confused if I even drove thru it)
7) Drive thru Haden Valley at dusk to see wildlife. (I didn't see much more than in the park during the day)

Guys, what else did I miss ?

Good job with this list.
There is also Yellowstone lake which is nice. Also, there are some other nice geysers all around like the geyser basin (midway) and others. There are so many hikes and views to see there that many people dont know aboit so just try to see as much as possible and enjoy!
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: csl1 on July 24, 2016, 11:22:10 AM
What grade in your 9 year old in? There is a program for free entrance fee to the parks if your child is in 4th grade. I believe it's finishing 4th grade, not entering 4th grade. You need to get some paperwork first.

There are also great Junior Ranger activity books and classes for the kids. They kept my kids busy during the long drives.

Thanks for the heads up on this fun promotion! I will look into this to enable us free entrance for the week!
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Ezriel on July 24, 2016, 12:16:21 PM
Any place to be with a family on Shabboss in the area?
Shul, Food, etc.?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yitzshpitz on July 24, 2016, 12:21:30 PM
Any place to be with a family on Shabboss in the area?
Shul, Food, etc.?

There is a chabad in Jackson Hole. They have some kisher items in the supermarket there. When I was there we only got a minyan for friday night. Call them, they have lots of useful information.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yakrot on July 24, 2016, 12:24:07 PM
The other Chabad is in Bozeman Montana during the summer months he usually has a minyan on shabbos. I really enjoyed my shabbos there
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Ezriel on July 24, 2016, 12:44:54 PM
Any reason to prefer one of them other than the Mikvah?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yitzshpitz on July 24, 2016, 01:13:33 PM
Any reason to prefer one of them other than the Mikvah?

People say the Montana one you have better chance of minyan. (Was never ther only in Jackson hole)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on July 24, 2016, 01:15:00 PM
There's another chabad elsewhere in montana. Can't recall the name of the town.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 25, 2016, 03:55:54 PM
There's another chabad elsewhere in montana. Can't recall the name of the town.
IIRC it's Missoula
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yakrot on July 25, 2016, 03:58:06 PM
IIRC it's Missoula
Thats farther away than Bozeman. Also when I was in Bozeman the rabbi from Missoula was there for shabbos
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 25, 2016, 11:17:25 PM
Any reason to prefer one of them other than the Mikvah?
Around four hours from each other.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yakrot on July 25, 2016, 11:40:45 PM
Around four hours from each other.
It's only 4 hours from Jackson to Bozeman?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: csl1 on July 29, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Was anyone at grand Teton this past week?  How did, if at all, the 2 forest fires affect your trip?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mendy613 on March 19, 2017, 01:24:04 AM
We am thinking of going this summer, as part of our US trip..
We arent really into hiking but enjoy seeing nice views etc.
We have two children under two..

Would you guys say skip it for now?

Going to be in the "area" (hoping to do both Dakotas, Montana and Idaho)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SSLPhD on March 19, 2017, 07:33:14 AM
We am thinking of going this summer, as part of our US trip..
We arent really into hiking but enjoy seeing nice views etc.
We have two children under two..

Would you guys say skip it for now?

Going to be in the "area" (hoping to do both Dakotas, Montana and Idaho)
What exactly is this "US trip"?  Lots of car time?  If your kiddos could handle lots of time in car, I wouldn't skip Yellowstone.  There are lots of great views that require a walk, not exactly a hike.  I'm not really into hiking either.  I'd skip Grand Teton.

(As part of a two week trip, we went to Glacier and Yellowstone/Grand Teton.  Did the seven hour guided hike to Iceberg Lake in Glacier NP.  It was beautiful, but arrived back at the car in such pain (leg and knee), I would not have been able to drive.  I was doing nothing even remotely like that the following week in Yellowstone.  We did mostly walks of about 20-30 minutes IIRC, and had a great time.  I was underwhelmed with Grand Teton. This was pre-kids.)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: hachover on March 19, 2017, 10:50:47 AM
We am thinking of going this summer, as part of our US trip..
We arent really into hiking but enjoy seeing nice views etc.
We have two children under two..

Would you guys say skip it for now?

Going to be in the "area" (hoping to do both Dakotas, Montana and Idaho)

When will you be there? R"Ch Elul is going to be an awesome time to be in Teton. I wish I could be there
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on March 19, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
The couple of days around 8/21 are gonna be absolutely crazy in the Tetons, I'd avoid it at all costs. Otherwise both parks would make for an incredible few days.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: hachover on March 19, 2017, 11:02:57 AM
The couple of days around 8/21 are gonna be absolutely crazy in the Tetons, I'd avoid it at all costs. Otherwise both parks would make for an incredible few days.

Have you picked out somewhere else to be? I wanted Teton even though it will be crazy. I'm ending up in middle america
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on March 19, 2017, 11:11:43 AM
Teton is awesome.  I recommend the Teton crest trail. Take lift at Jackson hole to start and avoid that ascent. 4 days on trail.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on March 19, 2017, 11:21:51 AM
Have you picked out somewhere else to be? I wanted Teton even though it will be crazy. I'm ending up in middle america

Not sure if I'm going yet, but leaning towards somewhere in central Oregon.

You're aware that the eclipse happens in the opposite direction than the Tetons, right? Really no sense in going there for that.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on March 19, 2017, 11:22:58 AM
Also, in the Tetons area there are only north-south roads. So if you get clouded in, there's no where to run a few hours earlier for a better chance.

You want a spot that has easy east-west access.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: hachover on March 19, 2017, 11:28:00 AM
Not sure if I'm going yet, but leaning towards somewhere in central Oregon.

You're aware that the eclipse happens in the opposite direction than the Tetons, right? Really no sense in going there for that.

I wasn't aware... what do you mean? I would climb at least part way up one of the mountains if there.

my strategy is to either be somewhere I can be mobile (in case of clouds) or someplace that I'd enjoy being even if viewing conditions don't cooperate. Middle america fits the first, Teton fits the second.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: hachover on March 19, 2017, 11:29:13 AM
Also, in the Tetons area there are only north-south roads. So if you get clouded in, there's no where to run a few hours earlier for a better chance.

You want a spot that has easy east-west access.

Got it. I disabled that warning setting that tells me someone has posted while I was typing and thats what i get :)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mendy613 on March 19, 2017, 12:45:02 PM
What exactly is this "US trip"?  Lots of car time?  If your kiddos could handle lots of time in car, I wouldn't skip Yellowstone.  There are lots of great views that require a walk, not exactly a hike.  I'm not really into hiking either.  I'd skip Grand Teton.

(As part of a two week trip, we went to Glacier and Yellowstone/Grand Teton.  Did the seven hour guided hike to Iceberg Lake in Glacier NP.  It was beautiful, but arrived back at the car in such pain (leg and knee), I would not have been able to drive.  I was doing nothing even remotely like that the following week in Yellowstone.  We did mostly walks of about 20-30 minutes IIRC, and had a great time.  I was underwhelmed with Grand Teton. This was pre-kids.)


Basically for the last four years the DW and i have been trying to visit all states, mainly leveraging our SW CP.
Now that we have two children and two Companion Passes we are hoping to for our fourth time with all four of us.

Reading the few posts after your reply is why we have stayed away from the national parks until now, we are lazyish and enjoy staying in a nice hotel and maybe doing one or two big things in each state (we have roughly two months).

Problem is, we did already most states and only have some states with big parks left.. This summer I hoping to do Minnesota, both Dakotas, Montana, Idaho, Washington and Oregon.

Just a bit confused about these huge parks, if its worth it driving around to some of the famous places within, taking some pictures and leaving.
Having a stroller or two wont make hiking to practical and - like i mentioned - its not our thing.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SSLPhD on March 19, 2017, 01:08:15 PM

Basically for the last four years the DW and i have been trying to visit all states, mainly leveraging our SW CP.
Now that we have two children and two Companion Passes we are hoping to for our fourth time with all four of us.

Reading the few posts after your reply is why we have stayed away from the national parks until now, we are lazyish and enjoy staying in a nice hotel and maybe doing one or two big things in each state (we have roughly two months).

Problem is, we did already most states and only have some states with big parks left.. This summer I hoping to do Minnesota, both Dakotas, Montana, Idaho, Washington and Oregon.

Just a bit confused about these huge parks, if its worth it driving around to some of the famous places within, taking some pictures and leaving.
Having a stroller or two wont make hiking to practical and - like i mentioned - its not our thing.
Many of the short "hikes" in Yellowstone are wheelchair accessible, so strollers are no problem.  By "no hiking," do you mean you won't walk 5 minutes to see something spectacular?  What about 10 minutes? 15?  Whatever your limit is, even if just driving and not getting out of the car, I personally would not skip Yellowstone.

Regarding stuff to do in the other states, ask in appropriate threads.  I recently started a Washington State thread, but not that much interest it seems.  I can answer some questions, maybe post a TR if you'd find that helpful.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yslkwd on March 22, 2017, 11:24:28 PM
Couldn't agree more
We went with 2 little kids
Yellowstone requires very little walking
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mendy613 on May 07, 2017, 01:10:25 AM
Following up to what i wrote above, I know its been asked before, but is five days too much?
The new Marriott in Jackson Hole is  really expensive paid, but 35k a night. (Fifth night free..)

Given that we like staying put and cant really hike, maybe short day trips will work for the few days?

Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 04, 2017, 02:27:22 AM
The couple of days around 8/21 are gonna be absolutely crazy in the Tetons, I'd avoid it at all costs. Otherwise both parks would make for an incredible few days.
Why? What's goin on around 8/21?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 04, 2017, 02:30:58 AM
Teton is awesome.  I recommend the Teton crest trail. Take lift at Jackson hole to start and avoid that ascent. 4 days on trail.
Really?! I was so annoyed that I wasted a whole day driving around Teton last summer. So underwhelming.

OTOH I was so awed by the wonders at Yellowstone, that I actually plan to go back there this month!
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: thaber on August 04, 2017, 03:33:43 AM
Why? What's goin on around 8/21?
https://eclipse2017.nasa.gov/
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: henche on August 04, 2017, 07:29:52 AM
Really?! I was so annoyed that I wasted a whole day driving around Teton last summer. So underwhelming.

OTOH I was so awed by the wonders at Yellowstone, that I actually plan to go back there this month!

Yah. But I hiked the Teton crest trail
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on August 04, 2017, 08:26:49 AM
Really?! I was so annoyed that I wasted a whole day driving around Teton last summer. So underwhelming.

OTOH I was so awed by the wonders at Yellowstone, that I actually plan to go back there this month!
Did you read @somethingsfishy TR?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 04, 2017, 10:35:27 AM
Did you read @somethingsfishy TR?
The pics, yeah.
He's always gonna have spectacular pics whatever he photographs ;) .
Really, think about it, the entire Teton NP is all literally about one mountain view?! Whatever you're photographing (unless you're zoche to see wildlife) is all that mountain!
Yellowstone is about so much more.

Anyways, obviously this is just my (and my wife - who was with me) personal opinion, perhaps a little too simplistic, but a simple guy I am.
Yellowstone talks to me. Bryce, GC, they talked to me too... to give you an idea.
So, my advice to anyone reading this: If you're a simple guy, not one of those sophisticated folks sitting around NP with fancy camera equipment waiting for a nice sighting or many different views of the same mountain, if you're short on time (like most simple folks ;) ) either skip Teton entirely or just drive through it on your way to Yellowstone and that'll be way more than enough for you.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: hachover on August 04, 2017, 11:14:36 AM
Really, think about it, the entire Teton NP is all literally about one mountain view?! Whatever you're photographing (unless you're zoche to see wildlife) is all that mountain!
Yellowstone is about so much more.

So, my advice to anyone reading this: If you're a simple guy, not one of those sophisticated folks sitting around NP with fancy camera equipment waiting for a nice sighting or many different views of the same mountain, if you're short on time (like most simple folks ;) ) either skip Teton entirely or just drive through it on your way to Yellowstone and that'll be way more than enough for you.

I happen to agree that Yellowstone deserves the larger share of time spent, but I think you are vastly underselling Teton. First, Grand Teton is hardly the only mountain in the park, and is certainly not the only scenery. If you want to hike up a mountain, in Teton you'll have lots of choices and variety in terms of both elevation and difficulty. Jackson Lake is spectacularly beautiful, especially from the road with the mountain range in the background. Also, with the exception of bison, I found it was much easier to spot wildlife in Teton than in Yellowstone.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on August 04, 2017, 11:54:45 AM


The pics, yeah.
He's always gonna have spectacular pics whatever he photographs ;) .
Really, think about it, the entire Teton NP is all literally about one mountain view?! Whatever you're photographing (unless you're zoche to see wildlife) is all that mountain!
Yellowstone is about so much more.

Anyways, obviously this is just my (and my wife - who was with me) personal opinion, perhaps a little too simplistic, but a simple guy I am.
Yellowstone talks to me. Bryce, GC, they talked to me too... to give you an idea.
So, my advice to anyone reading this: If you're a simple guy, not one of those sophisticated folks sitting around NP with fancy camera equipment waiting for a nice sighting or many different views of the same mountain, if you're short on time (like most simple folks ;) ) either skip Teton entirely or just drive through it on your way to Yellowstone and that'll be way more than enough for you.

I agree 100% that Yellowstone is definitely more interesting and should be the bulk of the trip.

But there are definitely nice things to see in the Grand Tetons. And many things are based on the time of day ( or night ) sunrise, sunset, stars at night. You can just drive through it but without being at the right place at the right time, your missing out what Aurora of it. If I actually get to finnish my TR maybe you get to see some...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on August 04, 2017, 12:11:59 PM
The pics, yeah.
He's always gonna have spectacular pics whatever he photographs ;) .

LOL. If it makes  you feel better, I was in Acadia National Park a week ago and didn't really get any pictures I like very much - for the second time. I have some sort of Acadia-curse or something.


Really, think about it, the entire Teton NP is all literally about one mountain view?! Whatever you're photographing (unless you're zoche to see wildlife) is all that mountain!

Interesting - this was precisely my conclusion when I looked into visiting many years ago. One mountain view - why in the world would I go?

But then a few years later I did some real research and discovered that it was vastly more than that. As others have mentioned, amazing hikes, the most spectacular sunrises pretty much anywhere in the lower 48, and amazing wildlife. On top of that you have fantastic off-roading that you can do in any SUV, Gros Ventre is completely different than anything else in the area, and so much more.

That being said one day is probably enough for most people, and the bulk of your time will be better spent in Yellowstone.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on August 04, 2017, 12:14:02 PM
Also, with the exception of bison, I found it was much easier to spot wildlife in Teton than in Yellowstone.

And I found the exact opposite to be true.

In short, it's wildlife - they come and go as they please and aren't beholden to tourists. No question that you'll have amazing wildlife sightings in either park.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on April 12, 2018, 04:37:10 PM
I'm planning on staying at the Marriott in Jackson Hole Aug 5 - 10. Is it smart to do that and travel every day to Yellowstone. I really don't like the hotel options in West Yellowstone. Anyone have experience with this?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on April 12, 2018, 04:46:22 PM
I'm planning on staying at the Marriott in Jackson Hole Aug 5 - 10. Is it smart to do that and travel every day to Yellowstone. I really don't like the hotel options in West Yellowstone. Anyone have experience with this?

Not the best of ideas. You'd be wasting a massive amount of time.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 12, 2018, 04:51:30 PM
I'm planning on staying at the Marriott in Jackson Hole Aug 5 - 10. Is it smart to do that and travel every day to Yellowstone. I really don't like the hotel options in West Yellowstone. Anyone have experience with this?
Not the best of ideas. You'd be wasting a massive amount of time.
+1000 there's quite a bit or traveling just to get around the park everyday...

I stayed in the Marriott a few weeks after it opened and had a nice experience there.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 12, 2018, 05:14:32 PM
Not the best of ideas. You'd be wasting a massive amount of time.
+100

The drive from Jackson up into Yellowstone is long and (with the exception of when you're passing the Tetons) quite boring. West Yellowstone is much closer and the drive from there to the center of the park is much much more interesting.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 12, 2018, 05:16:05 PM
+100

The drive from Jackson up into Yellowstone is long and (with the exception of when you're passing the Tetons) quite boring. West Yellowstone is much closer and the drive from there to the center of the park is much much more interesting.
While I stayed in West Yellowstone, when I was there I realized that it's probably best to stay in the park. You save a nice amount of time.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 12, 2018, 05:32:16 PM
While I stayed in West Yellowstone, when I was there I realized that it's probably best to stay in the park. You save a nice amount of time.
Agreed. I was just about to post about that.

I'm assuming you meant staying in one of the hotels in the park. It might be sacrilegious to say this on DDF, but IMO do it right and get a tent (and a bunch of other stuff) and go camping there. You'll save a bunch of money and it's a whole different experience.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 12, 2018, 05:37:10 PM
Agreed. I was just about to post about that.

I'm assuming you meant staying in one of the hotels in the park. It might be sacrilegious to say this on DDF,
Correct That's what I meant.
but IMO do it right and get a tent (and a bunch of other stuff) and go camping there. You'll save a bunch of money and it's a whole different experience.
That would depend with whom I'm going....
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 12, 2018, 05:43:02 PM
That would depend with whom I'm going....
-1(/2)

More like depends if you do it right or half-ass it. $100-$150 (IIRC) worth of gear can be the difference between it being awesome and being miserable.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on April 12, 2018, 06:17:00 PM
+100

The drive from Jackson up into Yellowstone is long and (with the exception of when you're passing the Tetons) quite boring. West Yellowstone is much closer and the drive from there to the center of the park is much much more interesting.
I actually enjoyed that drive over the that crazy pass (forget whatís itís called) between Idaho and Wyoming. Then in Idaho, I had to stop because the road was full of cows.

Isnít there an entrance at the bottom of Yellowstone right above the Tetons that you can cut through?

Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 12, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
I actually enjoyed that drive over the that crazy pass (forget whatís itís called) between Idaho and Wyoming.
yup, that's pretty cool but it's not between Jackson and Yellowstone.

Isnít there an entrance at the bottom of Yellowstone right above the Tetons that you can cut through?
That's the (relatively) long boring drive I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on April 12, 2018, 06:23:40 PM
I'm planning on staying at the Marriott in Jackson Hole Aug 5 - 10. Is it smart to do that and travel every day to Yellowstone. I really don't like the hotel options in West Yellowstone. Anyone have experience with this?
I did something similar to that two years ago, I stayed in Big Sky Montana (flew into Bozeman) drove every other day to Yellowstone (I think it was three times), was not that bad. The Airbnb rentals are a third the price in Big Sky and probably much nicer.

Enjoy Yellowstone, in my opinion, if you are not a hiker and just looking for interesting sites itís the best national park. We have been trying to replicate that experience since then at other national parks, but were unable to.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 12, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
I did something similar to that two years ago, I stayed in Big Sky Montana (flew into Bozeman) drove every other day to Yellowstone (I think it was three times), was not that bad. The Airbnb rentals are a third the price in Big Sky and probably much nicer.

Enjoy Yellowstone, in my opinion, if you are not a hiker and just looking for interesting sites itís the best national park. We have been trying to replicate that experience since then at other national parks, but were unable to.
Flew in to BZN as well an did the top loop the first day so that I wouldn't need to go back up.

Big Sky is 1+ hours to the edge of the park. From there it's still alot of driving
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on April 13, 2018, 12:39:14 AM
I would definitely rather stay near yellowstone - but I have a 5 night certificate and it would be a shame to spend $3-400 a night in yellowstone if i have a free otion. I am flying into BZN on sunday and hope to do the upper loop then. I thought it;s only 2.5 hours from there to JAC - but it sounds like I'm wrong:(

How many days would I need to stay in Yellowstone?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on April 13, 2018, 12:41:25 AM
Google maps shows it's only 1.45 from JAC to Grant Village.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 13, 2018, 01:17:47 AM
I would definitely rather stay near yellowstone - but I have a 5 night certificate and it would be a shame to spend $3-400 a night in yellowstone if i have a free otion. I am flying into BZN on sunday and hope to do the upper loop then. I thought it;s only 2.5 hours from there to JAC - but it sounds like I'm wrong:(

How many days would I need to stay in Yellowstone?
I did it in 3 days. But didn't really go into Lamar valley.
Google maps shows it's only 1.45 from JAC to Grant Village.
That's the the Southern most corner you'll need to travel 4 hours round-trip + the distance in Yellowstone....
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on April 13, 2018, 01:23:13 AM
Google maps shows it's only 1.45 from JAC to Grant Village.

Google maps goes out the window the instant there's a bear/bison/antelope/moose/whatever jam. And there will be a lot of those.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tzifanya54 on April 13, 2018, 08:36:54 AM
Google maps goes out the window the instant there's a bear/bison/antelope/moose/whatever jam. And there will be a lot of those.
+1000
I made that mistake and ended up in middle of no where when it was pitch black outside give yourself loads of extra time! I actually swipeda Buffalo with my car because  I couldnít see anything!
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on April 13, 2018, 10:04:25 AM
Ok - I guess I should stay Sunday and Monday in West Yellowstone and Tuesday - Thursday at the Marriott in JAC. Though it's driving me crazy to spend about $800 extra on those two nights when I have free nights at the Marriott.

Anyone interested in buying or swapping my extra two nights (two rooms) at the Marriott?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 13, 2018, 11:32:36 AM
Ok - I guess I should stay Sunday and Monday in West Yellowstone and Tuesday - Thursday at the Marriott in JAC. Though it's driving me crazy to spend about $800 extra on those two nights when I have free nights at the Marriott.

Anyone interested in buying or swapping my extra two nights (two rooms) at the Marriott?
It shouldn't cost you $400 a night to stay in West Yellowstone or in some of the hotels in the park.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 13, 2018, 11:47:56 AM
But didn't really go into Lamar valley.
That's practically criminal. (well assuming you have any interest in seeing Bison)

ETA: got confused with Hayden Valley.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 13, 2018, 11:50:29 AM
That's practically criminal. (well assuming you have any interest in seeing Bison)
We saw bison in many places including in Hayden Valley
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 13, 2018, 11:54:19 AM
We saw bison in many places including in Hayden Valley
Oops, you're right, I stand corrected. I got my valleys mixed up there for a minute. Missing Hayden valley would be criminal.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on April 13, 2018, 11:55:37 AM
That's practically criminal. (well assuming you have any interest in seeing Bison)

We saw bison in many places including in Hayden Valley

I've seen many people get confused by the two. Hayden is the more accessible one (between the lake and the canyon), where there are huge wildlife concentrations in the summer. Lamar is the more remote of the two (waaay out of the main loops), whose claim to fame are the wolves in the winter.

Lamar is mostly skippable in the summer.

ETA: @whYME types faster than me.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 13, 2018, 12:04:56 PM
Lamar is mostly skippable in the summer.
FWIW, a ranger once told me that the best place to see bears is usually the road from Mammoth spring towards Lamar Valley, between Mammoth springs and the road going down to Hayden etc
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 13, 2018, 12:07:14 PM
ETA: @whYME writes less than me.
FTFY :)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on April 13, 2018, 01:41:30 PM
And there will be a lot of those.
-1 IME
The few times I've driven that stretch of road I didn't see more then a squirrel.

Regardless, 1:45 seems kinda ambitious and the best case scenario and as others have pointed out that's basically the very beginning of the park, you still have quite a ways to go until whatever it is you actually want to see.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on April 13, 2018, 01:43:25 PM
FTFY :)

LOL

-1 IME
The few times I've driven that stretch of road I didn't see more then a squirrel.

You must have the most rotten luck on the planet then ;D
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on April 13, 2018, 02:08:26 PM
Oops, you're right, I stand corrected. I got my valleys mixed up there for a minute. Missing Hayden valley would be criminal.
I've seen many people get confused by the two. Hayden is the more accessible one (between the lake and the canyon), where there are huge wildlife concentrations in the summer. Lamar is the more remote of the two (waaay out of the main loops), whose claim to fame are the wolves in the winter.

Lamar is mostly skippable in the summer.

ETA: @whYME types faster than me.
I did the full loop touching Lamar Valley, that was the quietest Rd in Yellowstone. It was somewhere in the Tower junction that I saw my only Wolf in Yellowstone and some bears pretty far off the Rd.
LOL

You must have the most rotten luck on the planet then ;D
I didn't see as many Bison as I thought I would. And based on what we heard from others they didn't see the packs either during my stay...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on April 18, 2018, 02:25:56 PM
I have a 5 night stay at the brand new Marriott in Jackson Hole. I will only be using 3 of the five nights. So 2 nights available for sale - Aug 5-7 (Sunday-Tuesday) or Aug 10-12 (Friday-Sunday). I have two rooms each nights. Please PM if you are interested. $200 per room per night OBO (hotel rate is over $500 with taxes).
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on June 07, 2018, 05:57:28 PM
Woman gored by bison after crowd gets too close (https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/news/06072018.htm)

Another reminder to be careful around the animals
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mord1 on June 11, 2018, 06:05:46 PM
I will be flying into JAC on sunday in august, and have 4 complete days there, top hikes? top things to see? TIA
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 21, 2018, 12:32:19 AM
I will be flying into JAC on sunday in august, and have 4 complete days there, top hikes? top things to see? TIA
I recommend you spend a maximum of one day in Grand Teton NP; just make sure you get in a sunrise at Grand Teton (go to Oxbow Bend - see Somthing Fishy's TR up-thread).
The rest of your time save for Yellowstone, there's just so much there to see.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on June 21, 2018, 01:17:20 AM
I recommend you spend a maximum of one day in Grand Teton NP; just make sure you get in a sunrise at Grand Teton (go to Oxbow Bend - see Somthing Fishy's TR up-thread).
The rest of your time save for Yellowstone, there's just so much there to see.
Agree.

Although I went to Schwabacher's Landing for sunrise (following @somthingsfishy directions ) and was beautiful as well.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mord1 on June 21, 2018, 02:41:06 AM
Agree.

Although I went to Schwabacher's Landing for sunrise (following @somthingsfishy directions ) and was beautiful as well.
I assume by sunrise you mean neitz, not alos?
my issue is that we are arriving sunday middle of the day and sleeping in yellowstone through wed night and thursday night in jackson and friday morning flight is 7:00AM
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on June 21, 2018, 10:06:10 AM
I assume by sunrise you mean neitz, not alos?
my issue is that we are arriving sunday middle of the day and sleeping in yellowstone through wed night and thursday night in jackson and friday morning flight is 7:00AM

So do Grand Teton on Thursday.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mord1 on June 21, 2018, 10:56:20 AM
So do Grand Teton on Thursday.
For sunset? Thursday morning we will still be in yellowstone
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on June 21, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
For sunset? Thursday morning we will still be in yellowstone
(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji849.png) If you want to make sunrise at Grand Teton then wake up a little earlier on Thursday to get there on time and spend the day there.

The problem with sunrises is you need to wake up early to see it there's real way around that. Obviously you need to decide how badly you want it and if it's worth waking up for.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on June 21, 2018, 11:18:42 AM
(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji849.png) If you want to make sunrise at Grand Teton then wake up a little earlier on Thursday to get there on time and spend the day there.

The problem with sunrises is you need to wake up early to see it there's real way around that. Obviously you need to decide how badly you want it and if it's worth waking up for.

That. Do you want to see what is often the most beautiful sunrise in America or not ;D? If yes, wake up early. You'll survive.

And sunset in the Tetons is weak, the sun falls behind the mountains in the late afternoon and there usually isn't much to see at sunset.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yitzshpitz on June 21, 2018, 11:28:05 AM
I will be flying into JAC on sunday in august, and have 4 complete days there, top hikes? top things to see? TIA

They also have excellent white water rafting in the area, if thats yout sort of thing. I really enjoyed it when I went.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mord1 on June 21, 2018, 11:44:01 AM
That. Do you want to see what is often the most beautiful sunrise in America or not ;D? If yes, wake up early. You'll survive.

And sunset in the Tetons is weak, the sun falls behind the mountains in the late afternoon and there usually isn't much to see at sunset.
got it, ok, I assume sunrise is netz and not alos?, let me see about staying in jackson on sunday night  and then driving to yellowstone on monday
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on June 21, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
got it, ok, I assume sunrise is netz and not alos?

Neither. The show begins before the actual sunrise. Google the sunrise time for your dates and be there at least half an hour before.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: mord1 on June 21, 2018, 12:40:51 PM
Neither. The show begins before the actual sunrise. Google the sunrise time for your dates and be there at least half an hour before.
google has the same sunrise time as netz on my zemanim  :D. ok, I will see what I can to do, thanks
anything else not to miss?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Galitzyaner on June 21, 2018, 07:01:56 PM
Agree.

Although I went to Schwabacher's Landing for sunrise (following @somthingsfishy directions ) and was beautiful as well.
Yes of course, I meant Schwabacher's Landing, my mistake.

That. Do you want to see what is often the most beautiful sunrise in America or not ;D? If yes, wake up early. You'll survive.
Listen to ^this^ guy! Take it from me, I'm not a sunrise/sunset guy, and definitely don't enjoy getting up that early in the morning (especially with kids in tow).
Hence I was very hesitant to go for this. But I went ahead and listened to @Something Fishy, and boy was that worth it!
My DW and I had no regrets, to say the least.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: blue eyes on July 19, 2018, 11:40:44 PM
I have a 5 night stay at the brand new Marriott in Jackson Hole. I will only be using 3 of the five nights. So 2 nights available for sale - Aug 5-7 (Sunday-Tuesday) or Aug 10-12 (Friday-Sunday). I have two rooms each nights. Please PM if you are interested. $200 per room per night OBO (hotel rate is over $500 with taxes).


Where r u staying the other nights? cant seem to find availability in the park
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: blue eyes on July 19, 2018, 11:52:00 PM
What's the least crappy place in Jackson under 250?  Anyone stayed in alpine inn? its supposed to be close to Chabad.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 20, 2018, 12:11:07 AM
What's the least crappy place in Jackson under 250?  Anyone stayed in alpine inn? its supposed to be close to Chabad.

I found some really great places on Airbnb.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on July 23, 2018, 10:47:00 PM

Where r u staying the other nights? cant seem to find availability in the park

Staying at the Holiday Inn West Yellowstone.

Btw, any itinerary ideas?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on July 23, 2018, 11:54:17 PM
What's the least crappy place in Jackson under 250?  Anyone stayed in alpine inn? its supposed to be close to Chabad.
What's with the Marriott?
Staying at the Holiday Inn West Yellowstone.

Btw, any itinerary ideas?
1.They had points availability?

2. As in per day?

Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: ADG on July 24, 2018, 10:54:20 PM
Is it SHayach to take 3 kids (including a 5 week old) on a road trip on a RV through Glacier YS and Teton?

How much time would I need?

Is it too late to plan for a trip in 2 weeks?

Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SSLPhD on July 24, 2018, 11:46:46 PM
Is it SHayach to take 3 kids (including a 5 week old) on a road trip on a RV through Glacier YS and Teton?

How much time would I need?

Is it too late to plan for a trip in 2 weeks?
How many kids in car seats?  Could be a problem if more than one---I've never seen more than one spot in a rental RV that was really good for a car seat.  Otherwise, I'd say to go for it, with a relaxed schedule.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on July 25, 2018, 12:50:05 AM


Is it SHayach to take 3 kids (including a 5 week old) on a road trip on a RV through Glacier YS and Teton?


While it could be a very nice trip, here is what my concerns would be.

1. How would you deal with a 5 week old in an RV for 2 weeks?
2. How would you carry the baby through pathways, walkways etc. (Forget about hiking )
3. Depending on how old the other kids are, would they enjoy a restricted trip because of the babies limitations?

How much time would I need?

I did Yellowstone in 3 days (2 nights ) Grand Teton in a day and a half. Could have spent one more day that was enough for me. ( I had an eight month old ). But a week would definitely be enough since your not really hiking.

Is it too late to plan for a trip in 2 weeks?

No

Since sleeping accommodations are taken care of (RV) there's nothing that really needs advance planning at all, 2 weeks should be ample time for planning.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on July 25, 2018, 12:56:31 AM

While it could be a very nice trip, here is what my concerns would be.

1. How would you deal with a 5 week old in an RV for 2 weeks?
2. How would you carry the baby through pathways, walkways etc. (Forget about hiking )
3. Depending on how old the other kids are, would they enjoy a restricted trip because of the babies limitations?

I did Yellowstone in 3 days (2 nights ) Grand Teton in a day and a half. Could have spent one more day that was enough for me. ( I had an eight month old ). But a week would definitely be enough since your not really hiking.

No

Since sleeping accommodations are taken care of (RV) there's nothing that really needs advance planning at all, 2 weeks should be ample time for planning.

2. Baby carrier. Even a stroller would work for the vast majority of spots.

He wants to do GNP as well, so two weeks isn't too much.

And he'd still need to make plans for campgrounds, even with an RV - although it will obviously be waaaay simpler than hotels. I'd be more worried about finding available spots than anything else.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: ADG on July 25, 2018, 11:29:03 AM
Thank you for the advice.

My kids' ages are 3.5, 2.3, and 5weeks. Are they too yound to enjoy such a trip? What are some of the activities besides hiking?

I would have a budget to go all out on RV as I dont need to spend on Car and hotel. Can anyone recommend a good company?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: ADG on July 25, 2018, 12:24:14 PM
I will wait till my kids are older to do this trip...

Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on July 25, 2018, 12:34:22 PM
2. Baby carrier.

For a 5 week old?

Thank you for the advice.

My kids' ages are 3.5, 2.3, and 5weeks. Are they too yound to enjoy such a trip? What are some of the activities besides hiking?

I would have a budget to go all out on RV as I dont need to spend on Car and hotel. Can anyone recommend a good company?

There are stuff that can be nice but I wouldn't say that it's the recommended age
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on July 26, 2018, 10:48:21 AM
RV through Glacier
Just bear in mind you can't take the RV on Going-to-the-Sun road.

Are they too yound to enjoy such a trip? What are some of the activities besides hiking?
I would say they're too young to really appreciate the trip but not too young to go.
As for activities, pretty much the same as anywhere else for that age. Pretty much swimming and playgrounds, IIRC there's not all that much more for 2-3s.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tzifanya54 on July 26, 2018, 11:07:39 AM
I will wait till my kids are older to do this trip...
I took a 3 year old and 5 year old. They were definitely too young to appreciate it. Smart move to wait:
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: blue eyes on July 29, 2018, 03:00:37 AM
I found some really great places on Airbnb.
Couldnt find availability for full homes. Itís last minute of course...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: blue eyes on July 29, 2018, 03:02:38 AM
What's with the Marriott?1.They had points availability?

2. As in per day?
Marriot is a cat 7... and 500 a night
I booked the alpine motel Economy room for $135 a night.
I did bring my own towels and blanket and hope for the best
It seems to be the cheapest room in town
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on July 29, 2018, 04:05:34 AM
Marriot is a cat 7... and 500 a night
I booked the alpine motel Economy room for $135 a night.
I did bring my own towels and blanket and hope for the best
It seems to be the cheapest room in town
35k a night should be just under $250.

Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on July 31, 2018, 11:32:25 PM
Going to Grand Teton & Yellowstone next Sunday to Friday. Here is the very basic itinerary. Any thoughts or comments?

Day 1:
EWR to BZN 8:30 am - arriving at 11:30 app.

Renting a van from National for $400!!! (any tips), quick stop at Walmart, and on to Mammoth Hot Springs.

Next stop at Norris Geyser Basin.

Then head to Holiday Inn West Yellowstone for the night.

Day 2:
Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Mud Volcano, and?.

Day 3:
Leave hotel in West  Yellowstone and start heading towards Grand Teton (Marriott Jackson). Stopping at the many geysers along the way including Grand Prismatic Spring and Old Faithful - will prob. take a full day for all the stops (if we even have time for all our plans).

Day 4:
Possible Schwabacher Landing sunrise trip, Antelope Flats, Gros Ventre.

Day 5:
Possible Oxbow Bend sunrise, Jenny Lake (inspiration point hike),

Day 6: Departure at 8 am, maybe we"ll have time for one more sunrise.

Any tips and suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on August 01, 2018, 02:41:30 AM
Going to Grand Teton & Yellowstone next Sunday to Friday. Here is the very basic itinerary. Any thoughts or comments?

Day 1:
EWR to BZN 8:30 am - arriving at 11:30 app.

Renting a van from National for $400!!! (any tips), quick stop at Walmart, and on to Mammoth Hot Springs.

Next stop at Norris Geyser Basin.

Then head to Holiday Inn West Yellowstone for the night.

Day 2:
Grand Canyon of Yellowstone, Mud Volcano, and?.

Day 3:
Leave hotel in West  Yellowstone and start heading towards Grand Teton (Marriott Jackson). Stopping at the many geysers along the way including Grand Prismatic Spring and Old Faithful - will prob. take a full day for all the stops (if we even have time for all our plans).

Day 4:
Possible Schwabacher Landing sunrise trip, Antelope Flats, Gros Ventre.

Day 5:
Possible Oxbow Bend sunrise, Jenny Lake (inspiration point hike),

Day 6: Departure at 8 am, maybe we"ll have time for one more sunrise.

Any tips and suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Day 1
Have in mind that you'll litterly be passing by the Norris Geysers when heading out to the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone. If you are willing to drive the extra time you may want to go through the tower junction loop. (It's the quietest place in Yellowstone, and take in mind that the road from Mammoth to Norris has traffic )

Day 2
Hayden Valley is a must. Yellowstone lake is nice as well.

Day 3
It shouldn't be a full day in Yellowstone for those 3 stops (you can go to West thumbs Geysers, although It wasn't anything special ) , but there some nice stops that you can make along the route in addition to the long ride.

Day 4
When going to Schwabacher Landing continue on the path until you get to the nicest spot (courtesy of @somethingsfishy ) and don't forget about the Barn (can't remember the name )

The car rental price sounds good, according to what I saw.

Tidbit: Around the block from the Marriott there is an antelope arch, which is nice.

Enjoy your trip. (And write a TR...)
Thanks
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on August 08, 2018, 08:57:19 PM
We're at Day 4 of our trip - just biked 16 miles to Jenny Lake and back!! Spectacular!! Hope to post my first TR this time.

We would like to head out to Schwabacher Landing for sunrise tomm. If sunrise is at 6:21, what time should we be there?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on August 08, 2018, 10:11:52 PM
We're at Day 4 of our trip - just biked 16 miles to Jenny Lake and back!! Spectacular!! Hope to post my first TR this time.

We would like to head out to Schwabacher Landing for sunrise tomm. If sunrise is at 6:21, what time should we be there?

Thanks.

No later than 5:30. Enjoy!

Looking forward to the TR.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on December 16, 2018, 02:35:22 PM
Still getting around to write my TR. I finally figured out how to post pics. Sunrise at the Grand Tetons - Schwabacher Landing - Summer 2018.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2242/3459/files/Sunrise.jpg?13023512264177141564)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: BarryLincoln on December 17, 2018, 10:10:12 AM
Still getting around to write my TR. I finally figured out how to post pics. Sunrise at the Grand Tetons - Schwabacher Landing - Summer 2018.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2242/3459/files/Sunrise.jpg?13023512264177141564)

Beautiful picture...
Title: Re: Banff Master Thread
Post by: jose34 on December 23, 2018, 06:19:37 PM
Just a small selection (I'll post many more in my TR in the Wyoming thread when I finally get around to it):

(Click on any picture for full-res.)

Schwabacher Landing Sunrise:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3734/9303001013_a6bc3717e1_c.jpg) (http://flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/u9494X)

Some 20 minutes later:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8227/8584719604_c1395816e0_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/8584719604/)

Oxbow Bend Sunrise:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/7483390756_2cff27e36a_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/7483390756/)

Mt. Moran and Pelican at sunrise:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3689/9303003601_ca46611aa7_c.jpg) (http://flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/paaXiU)

A shachris like no other:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7115/7483375626_ff5c73b544_c.jpg) (http://flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/6ga3re)

Milky Way over Jackson Lake:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7483420988_dc885a3fb1_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/7483420988/)

Star Trails and aurora over Jackson Lake:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8311/7884692236_ae15dd14a9_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/7884692236/)

Hendrick Pond sunrise:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8001/7483426380_ed09276314_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/7483426380/)

Lower Falls of the Yellowstone and double rainbow from Uncle Tom's trail (http://www.hikespeak.com/trails/uncle-toms-trail-lower-falls-yellowstone/):
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8391/8583617841_edd4dc9e27_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/8583617841/)

Minerva Terraces hot springs at sunset:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7362/9303005629_684f311c81_c.jpg) (http://flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/H2t526)

Pronghorn Antelope:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8455/7884690470_d77644bc25_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/7884690470/)

Bison on Antelope Flats:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8383/8583617457_f2c69da6ce_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/8583617457/)

Bison and calf:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5329/9305783446_d98368c32e_c.jpg) (http://flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/D43y9R)

Pelican at Oxbow Bend:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8444/7884795564_c6384f17ca_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/morrishersko/7884795564/)

Foraging Moose:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3729/9305785672_2f2081c6f8_c.jpg) (http://flickr.com/gp/morrishersko/88qowP)

These pics are crazy amazing!
Are these pictures "free", can I download them and use them for my background on my computer etc....?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SSLPhD on February 19, 2019, 03:02:57 PM

anything and everything....
where and how do i start to plan for something like this?
we are bh, family of 9, 2 adults 7 kids....
im thinking of making this a 2.5-3 week trip
dont want to rush through it, but enjoy it.
how did you manage with kosher foods?
where did you spend shabbat?
flew in and out of same airport?

again any and all info would be appreciated

thank you

Between the size of your family and needing kosher food, the way I'd approach this is to pick 3 hubs (Glacier, Yellowstone, location near Canadian NPs), one per week, and get an airbnb at each location, do day trips.  It will be hard to find meat along the way, and you'd probably have to take it all with you, and shlep from one place to the next.  Pros: you get a decent fridge/freezer to keep food frozen, and can book a house large enough for your family.  Look into what food will be allowed through customs if switching countries.

The problem with this trip is that there is no good place to restock kosher/go to restaurant.  If you are not set on the destination, I'd probably recommend something more like Vegas/LA/San Fran (many national parks), if you haven't been to those places and depending on what time of year.  Or Washington (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=73164.0[/url) and Oregon for cooler weather.

We spent Shabbos in our hotel room, didn't venture out at all.  There were no Chabads nearby back then, but I believe there are some in the area now.  You can look into renting an airbnb near Chabad.

Unless the locations naturally form a loop, it might not make sense to fly into and out of one airport.  We flew into/out of BZN, but we didn't venture too far.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: luv2trvlwithfam on February 27, 2019, 08:38:56 AM
Between the size of your family and needing kosher food, the way I'd approach this is to pick 3 hubs (Glacier, Yellowstone, location near Canadian NPs), one per week, and get an airbnb at each location, do day trips.  It will be hard to find meat along the way, and you'd probably have to take it all with you, and shlep from one place to the next.  Pros: you get a decent fridge/freezer to keep food frozen, and can book a house large enough for your family.  Look into what food will be allowed through customs if switching countries.

The problem with this trip is that there is no good place to restock kosher/go to restaurant.  If you are not set on the destination, I'd probably recommend something more like Vegas/LA/San Fran (many national parks), if you haven't been to those places and depending on what time of year.  Or Washington (https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=73164.0[/url) and Oregon for cooler weather.

We spent Shabbos in our hotel room, didn't venture out at all.  There were no Chabads nearby back then, but I believe there are some in the area now.  You can look into renting an airbnb near Chabad.

Unless the locations naturally form a loop, it might not make sense to fly into and out of one airport.  We flew into/out of BZN, but we didn't venture too far.


thank you,
couple years ago we did the utah loop,
landed in vegas got rental car and drove up  (with stop at walmart) to bryce spent the night there, down to zion 2 nights, followed by lake powell 2 nights, shabbat in flagstaff (love chabad!!!!!)  up to grand canyon 1 night , back to vegas for flight home...
bh, was greaaaatttttt trip. wish we couldve extended.
kids loved and really opened our eyes to national parks.....
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SSLPhD on February 27, 2019, 09:25:04 AM

thank you,
couple years ago we did the utah loop,
landed in vegas got rental car and drove up  (with stop at walmart) to bryce spent the night there, down to zion 2 nights, followed by lake powell 2 nights, shabbat in flagstaff (love chabad!!!!!)  up to grand canyon 1 night , back to vegas for flight home...
bh, was greaaaatttttt trip. wish we couldve extended.
kids loved and really opened our eyes to national parks.....
While I've done that trip and enjoyed it, as well, I was thinking more along the lines of SFO->Sequoia/Kings Canyon->Yosemite->Lassen Volcanic->Crater Lake->Redwood->SFO.  I've done the first three in a week, and the second three in a separate weeklong trip.  But I'm sure there's another thread for all that.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: luv2trvlwithfam on June 13, 2019, 10:05:05 AM
hi all,
 its been a while and seems like i have it all lined up. 2 weeks to visit/tour and enjoy the beautiful areas of yellowstone  and teton,
looking for some help with maxing out our time there
.we are a family of 9, 2 adults 7 children ages 7-17,
love outdoors, hiking, rafting, bike riding,zipline,canyoning, nature, water activities etc... see some of the main sites.. throw in a rodeo or something, .star gazing,...
so please help with itineraries/activities...

sleeping is as follows:
bozeman thursday till sunday
sunday- friday west yellowstone (can possibly sleep in jackson hole thursday)
friday-sunday jackson hole
sunday-thursday teton village area

land  thursday late morning at BZN
thrusday afternoon/evening activities
friday all day
shabbat-
sunday-
monday-
tuesday-
wedneday-
thursday-
friday-
shabbat
sunday-
monday-
tuesday-
wedneday-
thursday- fly out late morning


any and all of your help is greatly appreciated!!!

thank you all soooo much!!

Love from the HolyLand!
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SSLPhD on June 13, 2019, 04:46:12 PM
https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/hiking.htm
https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/ranger-programs.htm
etc.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: luv2trvlwithfam on June 13, 2019, 04:53:43 PM
https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/hiking.htm
https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/ranger-programs.htm
etc.



this is great!!!
thank you
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Saver on June 14, 2019, 08:31:01 AM
Hi! I know that this is last minute, but we are looking for some affordable lodging for a group. Any suggestions?
We are flying into Jackson Wy and plan to go to the Grand Teton's and spend Tuesday in Yellowstone and fly out of Bozeman.
Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: luv2trvlwithfam on June 14, 2019, 08:46:59 AM
Hi! I know that this is last minute, but we are looking for some affordable lodging for a group. Any suggestions?
We are flying into Jackson Wy and plan to go to the Grand Teton's and spend Tuesday in Yellowstone and fly out of Bozeman.
Any suggestions?


when do you plan on going?
how many people?
how many nights per location?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Saver on June 14, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
We are going on Sunday, June 23 and can stay in one location for three nights until Wednesday
We can stay in one place in between both or stay near Jenny lake Sunday night and near Jackson Monday night and Tuesday night or on Tuesday night near Bozeman Idaho. 10 adults 3 children

Thanks!
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yitzgar on July 11, 2019, 08:16:26 AM
None of the lodging in the park has ac. I am used to sleeping in a relatively cool room (69-70) will nights in August be too hot to stay in one of the park lodges? I've heard they can give you a fan.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: KSMH on January 20, 2020, 11:14:23 PM
Anyone  with experience snowmobiling in the park?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: BCL on June 16, 2020, 10:37:42 PM
Does it make sense to be based in Big Sky Residence Inn, Montana?
I want to use a Marriott 7 day cert here.

Is there too much time lost driving to the parks?

Family of 7, so one room isn't enough. How likely is it to get upgraded to the 2 bedroom suite?

Are there better Marriott options closer to the park?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on June 16, 2020, 10:41:10 PM
Does it make sense to be based in Big Sky Residence Inn, Montana?

Doesn't make sense to me. You're and hour or two away from the park and a few more from most interesting spots.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JuryDuty on June 16, 2020, 10:41:44 PM
Does it make sense to be based in Big Sky Residence Inn, Montana?
I want to use a Marriott 7 day cert here.

Is there too much time lost driving to the parks?

Family of 7, so one room isn't enough. How likely is it to get upgraded to the 2 bedroom suite?

Are there better Marriott options closer to the park?

Looks like an hour drive to west Yellowstone. I don't think there are really points options, but I may be mistaken. Also, I haven't been to Yellowstone (been dreaming of it for a while), but from research it seems like you'll be in the car a lot even if you stay much closer. The extra hour each way every day may be a killer
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: BCL on June 17, 2020, 12:26:05 AM
Doesn't make sense to me. You're and hour or two away from the park and a few more from most interesting spots.
So something in Jackson or West Yellowstone would be ideal.
What's my best option for a place for 7? Airbnb?
I don't many points options. Just get 2 rooms at a hotel?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tmendy226 on June 17, 2020, 12:36:28 AM
Thereís an Holiday In at West Yellowstone. Just stayed there last week, stay was very pleasant (just donít expect the St Regis). You can book the family room which has two bedroom for the same amount or you can also get a jacuzzi room (executive). Staff was very nice and it is as close as you can get to the park.

Make sure to check pricing for each night, official price is 45k/night but with ihg new pricing system it can fluctuate. I got some for 27.5k
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on June 17, 2020, 09:06:57 AM
So something in Jackson or West Yellowstone would be ideal.
What's my best option for a place for 7? Airbnb?
I don't many points options. Just get 2 rooms at a hotel?
How many days are you staying? If itís only 2-3 days and you plan to visit the park every day, Big Sky will be annoying. We stayed 8 days in Big Sky and we went 3-4 times to the park, it was not bad. We were willing sacrifice the hour drive for nice and affordable Airbnb. We also had small kids so there was no way we can do 3/4 consecutive days in the car/park.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: jose34 on June 17, 2020, 09:21:32 AM
Thereís an Holiday In at West Yellowstone. Just stayed there last week, stay was very pleasant (just donít expect the St Regis). You can book the family room which has two bedroom for the same amount or you can also get a jacuzzi room (executive). Staff was very nice and it is as close as you can get to the park.

Make sure to check pricing for each night, official price is 45k/night but with ihg new pricing system it can fluctuate. I got some for 27.5k
In one of my earlier hotel stays I thought a the Holiday Day Inn was supposed be the St. Regis and I wrote a review as such. I got a nice email from the hotel saying how "Were so grateful you decided to stay but were not a the fancy hotel type and were sorry we disappointed you... "
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Something Fishy on June 17, 2020, 10:05:29 AM
So something in Jackson or West Yellowstone would be ideal.

Jackson is ideal for the Tetons, not Yellowstone.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Joe4007 on June 17, 2020, 01:44:36 PM
Doesn't make sense to me. You're and hour or two away from the park and a few more from most interesting spots.
...says the guy driving 30 hours to get there  :D
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on June 18, 2020, 12:16:32 AM
I am planning to stay for a Shabbos in Jackson hole. Is the Chabad house operating in the summer with Minyonim?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: whYME on June 18, 2020, 12:19:35 AM
I am planning to stay for a Shabbos in Jackson hole. Is the Chabad house operating in the summer with Minyonim?

Yes, this is what I told @Something Fishy, but since @BCL is asking about August, let me clarify that "at the moment" are the key words. The local Jews are currently terrified about the prospect of summer visitors coming in and bringing Covid with them, so at the moment Chabad is indeed essentially closed.

However, the shaliach there did say that as the summer goes along, attitudes may or may not change, and I could check back with him in July to see what's going on. So if you need to make plans now, you should not count on being able to spend Shabbos there, but if you have some flexibility, you could check in with him in a few weeks to see where they're holding.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tmendy226 on June 18, 2020, 11:26:25 PM
Jackson is ideal for the Tetons, not Yellowstone.

I flew to SLC, drive to Jackson, stayed for two nights, following day spent at grand Teton and the next drove from Jackson to Yellowstone.

(This way I also gained not having a stopover, getting a really good car for a very decent price, beautiful drive to Jackson)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on June 19, 2020, 03:20:42 AM
Does it make sense to be based in Big Sky Residence Inn, Montana?
I want to use a Marriott 7 day cert here.

Is there too much time lost driving to the parks?

Family of 7, so one room isn't enough. How likely is it to get upgraded to the 2 bedroom suite?

Are there better Marriott options closer to the park?

Definitely not. It's around 1.5 hours to get to the closest attraction.

So something in Jackson or West Yellowstone would be ideal.
What's my best option for a place for 7? Airbnb?
I don't many points options. Just get 2 rooms at a hotel?

Just have in mind that even West Yellowstone is an hour+ each way to get to East side of the park ( Hayden Valley or the Grand Canyon of Yellowstone). That's 2+ hours round trip. The nearest geysers are around 40 min, but that's your best option other then staying in the park.

The Marriott in Jackson is a nice option for the Tetons
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yitzgar on June 19, 2020, 11:16:18 AM
I know this sounds sacrilegious on DDF, but I think for Yellowstone it's worth just staying in the park for 1-2 nights, especially if your time in the park is limited. (Even in the park some places aren't great locations, so do research)
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on June 19, 2020, 11:56:33 AM
I know this sounds sacrilegious on DDF, but I think for Yellowstone it's worth just staying in the park for 1-2 nights, especially if your time in the park is limited. (Even in the park some places aren't great locations, so do research)
+

It's not like the options in West Yellowstone are that much better.   
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: yitzgar on June 19, 2020, 02:34:00 PM
+

It's not like the options in West Yellowstone are that much better.   
And prices aren't that much lower. There's only one points option in west Yellowstone, and it fills up fast
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: tmendy226 on June 19, 2020, 03:06:03 PM
I know this sounds sacrilegious on DDF, but I think for Yellowstone it's worth just staying in the park for 1-2 nights, especially if your time in the park is limited. (Even in the park some places aren't great locations, so do research)

Yellowstone lodges are all closed right now. Only option in the park would be your RV or ⛺️...
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on June 19, 2020, 03:11:17 PM
And prices aren't that much lower. There's only one points option in west Yellowstone, and it fills up fast
There's actually 2 with the Days inn..
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: israbear89 on June 22, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
Yellowstone lodges are all closed right now. Only option in the park would be your RV or ⛺️...

Not true. They're open... availability is a diff story
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Kobe Bryant on June 22, 2020, 01:04:04 PM
Not true. They're open... availability is a diff story
Correct.
https://www.yellowstonenationalparklodges.com/stay/summer-lodges/
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: ari3 on June 24, 2020, 11:53:23 AM
I am planning on going to Yellowstone this summer and have a few questions. Tentatively I am planning Sun morning thru Thu afternoon.

1) Are there any shabbos options anywhere in the vicinity? (traveler718 commented about a Chabad that is currently closed).

2) It doesn't seem that I would be able to make it back on time for shabbos leaving any later than Thursday afternoon. Any Ideas?

3) I was considering flying into FCA and spending Sunday and Monday at Glacier and the heading to yellowstone Mon evening and spending Tue Wed in yellowstone and Flying back Thu from JAC (maybe stop in Teton on Thursday). Am I trying to do too much? Should I just do Yellowstone? I'm not the type that needs to see every sight in the parks.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JuryDuty on June 24, 2020, 12:02:24 PM
1) Are there any shabbos options anywhere in the vicinity? (traveler718 commented about a Chabad that is currently closed).

Maybe look into chabad of bozeman montana.
That might also warrant a switch in direction, meaning starting in teton and ending in montana
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on June 24, 2020, 12:05:56 PM


I am planning on going to Yellowstone this summer and have a few questions. Tentatively I am planning Sun morning thru Thu afternoon.

1) Are there any shabbos options anywhere in the vicinity? (traveler718 commented about a Chabad that is currently closed).

2) It doesn't seem that I would be able to make it back on time for shabbos leaving any later than Thursday afternoon. Any Ideas?

3) I was considering flying into FCA and spending Sunday and Monday at Glacier and the heading to yellowstone Mon evening and spending Tue Wed in yellowstone and Flying back Thu from JAC (maybe stop in Teton on Thursday). Am I trying to do too much? Should I just do Yellowstone? I'm not the type that needs to see every sight in the parks.

1. Boseman MT. It's around 1.5 hrs from the northern gate. I'm not sure how they are functioning now.

2. Travel to SLC...it's a 5 hr drive though..

3. Everyone has a different pace. You definitely can do it, with skipping some attractions.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JunkYardUnz on June 24, 2020, 12:07:20 PM
I am planning on going to Yellowstone this summer and have a few questions. Tentatively I am planning Sun morning thru Thu afternoon.

1) Are there any shabbos options anywhere in the vicinity? (traveler718 commented about a Chabad that is currently closed).

2) It doesn't seem that I would be able to make it back on time for shabbos leaving any later than Thursday afternoon. Any Ideas?

3) I was considering flying into FCA and spending Sunday and Monday at Glacier and the heading to yellowstone Mon evening and spending Tue Wed in yellowstone and Flying back Thu from JAC (maybe stop in Teton on Thursday). Am I trying to do too much? Should I just do Yellowstone? I'm not the type that needs to see every sight in the parks.
Did you look into flying in and out of BZN? Rental car will be cheaper if you return to the same location as pickup.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: flyingace on June 24, 2020, 12:24:09 PM
Did you look into flying in and out of BZN? Rental car will be cheaper if you return to the same location as pickup.
Highly recommend Autoslash for any one way rentals.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: JuryDuty on June 24, 2020, 12:25:27 PM
Did you look into flying in and out of BZN? Rental car will be cheaper if you return to the same location as pickup.

You can also play around with different locations as the pickup and drop off that will have wildly different prices for each direction.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: ari3 on June 25, 2020, 12:19:25 AM
I settled on flying into FCA Sun morning and flying out of JAC Thursday afternoon. Flying into Bozeman would have made doing Glacier not practical. Car rentals are very expensive at FCA so I'll see what I can find.

I plan on staying Sun night in Kalispell Mon night somewhere between Glacier and Yellowstone (possibly Helena or Bozeman) Tues and Wed nights in the Yellowstone area. I found Tue night at the Holiday Inn west Yellowstone with points but Wed wasn't available with points.

Any input about what sights I should make sure to see, about the car rental and about where to stay would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: KSMH on June 25, 2020, 01:03:56 AM
I settled on flying into FCA Sun morning and flying out of JAC Thursday afternoon. Flying into Bozeman would have made doing Glacier not practical. Car rentals are very expensive at FCA so I'll see what I can find.

I plan on staying Sun night in Kalispell Mon night somewhere between Glacier and Yellowstone (possibly Helena or Bozeman) Tues and Wed nights in the Yellowstone area. I found Tue night at the Holiday Inn west Yellowstone with points but Wed wasn't available with points.

Any input about what sights I should make sure to see, about the car rental and about where to stay would be greatly appreciated.
Try making it to the residence inn in Big Sky Montana for the first night.

There is a new Spring Hill suites in west Yellowstone. You can try applying a SNA.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Traveler718 on June 25, 2020, 08:32:56 AM
Not sure when you're going, but with such an aggressive itinerary, the option to spend Shabbos there and have more time on the ground would be extremely beneficial. Even if a Chabad is "closed," that just means that they may not be available to host you for meals as in normal years, but many of them will still gladly help you in any way they can, such as providing Shabbos meals that you can eat at your own place (for payment).

If your flights aren't yet set in stone, I'd reach out to Chabad of Jackson, Kalispell, Missoula, and Bozeman with your planned travel dates and what help you're looking for, and hopefully one of them can provide it so that you don't have to be so rushed during your time there.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on June 25, 2020, 08:59:59 AM
I am planning on going to Yellowstone this summer and have a few questions. Tentatively I am planning Sun morning thru Thu afternoon.

1) Are there any shabbos options anywhere in the vicinity? (traveler718 commented about a Chabad that is currently closed).

2) It doesn't seem that I would be able to make it back on time for shabbos leaving any later than Thursday afternoon. Any Ideas?

3) I was considering flying into FCA and spending Sunday and Monday at Glacier and the heading to yellowstone Mon evening and spending Tue Wed in yellowstone and Flying back Thu from JAC (maybe stop in Teton on Thursday). Am I trying to do too much? Should I just do Yellowstone? I'm not the type that needs to see every sight in the parks.
Chabad of Jackson is not closed, but you need to subscribe as he will be operating very limited. Also, from August 9'th it will be closed.

I am also planning a trip, landing in SLC, staying in park city for 3 days, then driving to JAC staying for a few days and flying out of JAC.

With the rising numbers of Covid in Utah and WY my trip is on standby.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Kobe Bryant on June 25, 2020, 10:25:00 AM

With the rising numbers of Covid in Utah and WY my trip is on standby.
Due to being concerned of closures or personal safety?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on June 25, 2020, 11:01:17 AM
Due to being concerned of closures or personal safety?
Closures or extreme limiting of attractions.

I am planning to go with my 3 kids and a big part of my itinerary is the adventure parks.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Kobe Bryant on June 25, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
Closures or extreme limiting of attractions.

I am planning to go with my 3 kids and a big part of my itinerary is the adventure parks.
Not sure which adventure parks you are referring to. But I've done similar road trips in the past, and i agree with @Traveler718 that you need more time. I would probably stick to Yellowstone and Grand Teton, there is enough there to keep you busy for a week.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: VacationLover on June 25, 2020, 11:17:32 AM
Not sure which adventure parks you are referring to. But I've done similar road trips in the past, and i agree with @Traveler718 that you need more time. I would probably stick to Yellowstone and Grand Teton, there is enough there to keep you busy for a week.
I am planning to be in Park City for 3 days. JAC/Grand Teton for 6 days. Not enough?
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Kobe Bryant on June 25, 2020, 11:21:21 AM
I am planning to be in Park City for 3 days. JAC/Grand Teton for 6 days. Not enough?
I apologize, confused your itinerary with Ari3
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Yammer on June 25, 2020, 01:19:29 PM
I am planning to be in Park City for 3 days. JAC/Grand Teton for 6 days. Not enough?
Definitely
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: SSLPhD on June 26, 2020, 09:00:37 AM
Chabad of Jackson, Kalispell, Missoula, and Bozeman
Nice.  When we were in GLAC, YELL, and GRTE almost two decades ago, there wasn't a single Chabad in all of MT, ID, and WY.
Title: Re: Teton National Park and Yellowstone National Park
Post by: Traveler718 on June 26, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
Nice.  When we were in GLAC, YELL, and GRTE almost two decades ago, there wasn't a single Chabad in all of MT, ID, and WY.

Yes, Chabad has really expanded in the area. I was one of the early guests of Chabad of Jackson around 10 years ago, and I believe Bozeman also opened around that time. I've been to Glacier NP 3 times (2010, 2012, and 2015), but don't recall the Kalispell or Missoula locations being open at that time. There is a Chabad in Idaho, but it sounds like they're pretty shut down for the summer, which is why I suggested the other locations.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Traveler718 on June 28, 2020, 10:15:23 PM
Important PSA regarding Glacier NP: The Blackfeet Indian tribe just voted to deny access to most of the roads that surround Glacier NP, due to their concerns about park visitors bringing Covid into their territory. As a practical matter although the national park is open, the entire east side of the park will be effectively closed for this year.

There will be no way to access Many Glacier, Two Medicine, or even the St. Mary's east entrance to Going-to-the-Sun Road. Lodging will be unavailable on that side of the park. That means the only access to the "heart" of the park will be by entering GTTSR from the west side, driving in as far as you want to go, then doubling back to exit the way you came in.

With park shuttle service already closed for this season due to Covid, I cannot overestimate how much pain this will inflict on an attempt to have an even remotely normal visit to Glacier NP this summer. Parking will be impossible to come by unless you are willing to be in line to enter the park by 6 am. Traffic delays in both directions will be beyond painful, and for all this, you won't even be able to see the best part of the park in Many Glacier.

This was a decision that caught everyone by surprise, as the expectation was that the Blackfeet would reduce or completely end the restrictions on July 1. I am still waiting to see how the NPS will respond to this new development, but as things look now, I would strongly advise not visiting Glacier NP this summer (and I am personally planning to cancel my reservations there if nothing changes in the next couple of weeks).

More details here:
https://flatheadbeacon.com/2020/06/25/blackfeet-tribe-closes-eastern-border-glacier-park/
https://montanafreepress.org/2020/06/26/as-covid-spikes-blackfeet-leaders-close-eastern-entrances-to-glacier-for-summer/
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: ari3 on June 29, 2020, 12:09:35 AM
Important PSA regarding Glacier NP: The Blackfeet Indian tribe just voted to deny access to most of the roads that surround Glacier NP, due to their concerns about park visitors bringing Covid into their territory. As a practical matter although the national park is open, the entire east side of the park will be effectively closed for this year.

There will be no way to access Many Glacier, Two Medicine, or even the St. Mary's east entrance to Going-to-the-Sun Road. Lodging will be unavailable on that side of the park. That means the only access to the "heart" of the park will be by entering GTTSR from the west side, driving in as far as you want to go, then doubling back to exit the way you came in.

With park shuttle service already closed for this season due to Covid, I cannot overestimate how much pain this will inflict on an attempt to have an even remotely normal visit to Glacier NP this summer. Parking will be impossible to come by unless you are willing to be in line to enter the park by 6 am. Traffic delays in both directions will be beyond painful, and for all this, you won't even be able to see the best part of the park in Many Glacier.

This was a decision that caught everyone by surprise, as the expectation was that the Blackfeet would reduce or completely end the restrictions on July 1. I am still waiting to see how the NPS will respond to this new development, but as things look now, I would strongly advise not visiting Glacier NP this summer (and I am personally planning to cancel my reservations there if nothing changes in the next couple of weeks).

More details here:
https://flatheadbeacon.com/2020/06/25/blackfeet-tribe-closes-eastern-border-glacier-park/
https://montanafreepress.org/2020/06/26/as-covid-spikes-blackfeet-leaders-close-eastern-entrances-to-glacier-for-summer/
Very disappointing. I just heard about this tonight from a relative and I have to decide what to do with my plans. I already booked tickets to fly into FCA but I can change that.

As far as the NPS response in the article here
https://montanafreepress.org/2020/06/26/as-covid-spikes-blackfeet-leaders-close-eastern-entrances-to-glacier-for-summer/
they quote
"Park spokeswoman Gina Kerzman said the park has no plans to contest the decision."
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Traveler718 on June 29, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Yes, I realize the official party line from the NPS will be to respect the tribe's decision, so no surprise there. But knowing the ramifications of it, I have to wonder (and hope!) if they're working behind the scenes to try to come up with some sort of reasonable compromise that could allow guest access while still letting the Blackfeet feel safe - though even if they do, it will likely involve severe limiting on the #s of visitors allowed, which will still require getting up crazy early to make the cut.

Peak tourist season is just starting there, so I'm giving it 2 weeks to see if anything moves. Otherwise I don't see it as being worth all the nightmare traffic and restrictions this year.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: ari3 on June 29, 2020, 10:04:08 PM
Yes, I realize the official party line from the NPS will be to respect the tribe's decision, so no surprise there. But knowing the ramifications of it, I have to wonder (and hope!) if they're working behind the scenes to try to come up with some sort of reasonable compromise that could allow guest access while still letting the Blackfeet feel safe - though even if they do, it will likely involve severe limiting on the #s of visitors allowed, which will still require getting up crazy early to make the cut.

Peak tourist season is just starting there, so I'm giving it 2 weeks to see if anything moves. Otherwise I don't see it as being worth all the nightmare traffic and restrictions this year.
Iv'e never been there but why can't they just let people drive thru for access but keep all the concessions outside the park closed and not let people do anything outside the park?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: SSLPhD on June 29, 2020, 10:37:39 PM
Iv'e never been there but why can't they just let people drive thru for access but keep all the concessions outside the park closed and not let people do anything outside the park?
Because it's a lot easier to say no than enforce restrictions. They don't owe it to us to give us what we want. It's their land, they don't want, and it's about time we respect their no.  Additionally, it's more likely they'll regret access than regret disallowing access.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on June 29, 2020, 10:48:59 PM
Yes, I realize the official party line from the NPS will be to respect the tribe's decision, so no surprise there. But knowing the ramifications of it, I have to wonder (and hope!) if they're working behind the scenes to try to come up with some sort of reasonable compromise that could allow guest access while still letting the Blackfeet feel safe - though even if they do, it will likely involve severe limiting on the #s of visitors allowed, which will still require getting up crazy early to make the cut.

Peak tourist season is just starting there, so I'm giving it 2 weeks to see if anything moves. Otherwise I don't see it as being worth all the nightmare traffic and restrictions this year.

I wonder... Of all the places I drove through a few weeks ago, the only places I saw masks were NPS facilities and concessions, and Indian reservations. I'm not sure how the Blackfeet situation compares with the Sioux, but driving through the latter's reservation it was clear that they were pretty much in panic/extreme measure mode.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Traveler718 on June 30, 2020, 10:23:29 AM
The articles I read mentioned that they particularly revere their elders, and they are terrified of losing them due to a virus that they've heard can be particularly deadly to older people.

I also recall my interactions with the Havasupai tribe in Arizona (Havasu Falls is on their property) and found them remarkably set in their ways. They had absolutely no interest in my suggestions of how they could "improve" their revenues and tourist industry, explaining that they were quite content to continue doing what they've always been doing, with no interest in increasing their interactions with us (kinda like chassidim? :).

I remember schmoozing with the (white) woman at the USPS branch there, who told me that it's the most maddening job she's ever had, and she was desperately trying to get reassigned before she lost her mind. So it doesn't shock me that the Blackfeet's reaction to all this would be to slam the door shut in the interest of self-preservation.

What I'll be watching for is the response of the park superintendent, who may be under pressure from a large number of local business owners whose entire annual revenue will go up in smoke if nothing is done.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Kobe Bryant on June 30, 2020, 10:32:50 AM
I wonder... Of all the places I drove through a few weeks ago, the only places I saw masks were NPS facilities and concessions, and Indian reservations. I'm not sure how the Blackfeet situation compares with the Sioux, but driving through the latter's reservation it was clear that they were pretty much in panic/extreme measure mode.
+1
In SD, the only place we saw and were required to wear masks was at Crazy Horse Memorial, similarly on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in NE.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: BCL on July 06, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
Planning to visit from Monday - Thursday. Staying in Island Park, ID (30 min from West entrance). With 4 kids age 7-12.

Monday - Geysers  How to do this? Which ones? Is a full day too much? 
Tuesday - "Grand Canyon" & Hayden Valley
Wednesday - Which would you recommend????  (Mammoth, West Thumb/Yellowstone Lake, Lamar Valley)
Thursday - Grand Teton What to do here? Jenny Lake hike?(planning on driving halfway to Vegas after)

Besides for sightseeing, what activities would you recommend?
Uncle Tom's Trail
Fairy Falls Trail
Rafting or boating
Anything else??

Please share any thoughts.
Thanks!!


Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on July 06, 2020, 12:23:42 PM
Monday - Geysers

Don't focus on an activity, focus on an area.

Also, last I checked, Uncle Tom's was closed. You might want to check the official site for an update.

Edit: confirmed, still closed (https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/canyonprojects.htm#:~:text=Uncle%20Tom's%20Trail,may%20occur%20throughout%20the%20year.).
Title: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: JunkYardUnz on July 06, 2020, 12:23:52 PM
Planning to visit from Monday - Thursday. Staying in Island Park, ID (30 min from West entrance). With 4 kids age 7-12.

Monday - Geysers  How to do this? Which ones? Is a full day too much? 
Tuesday - "Grand Canyon" & Hayden Valley
Wednesday - Which would you recommend????  (Mammoth, West Thumb/Yellowstone Lake, Lamar Valley)
Thursday - Grand Teton What to do here? Jenny Lake hike?(planning on driving halfway to Vegas after)

Besides for sightseeing, what activities would you recommend?
Uncle Tom's Trail
Fairy Falls Trail
Rafting or boating
Anything else??

Please share any thoughts.
Thanks!!
I would plan a bit different, divide the parks into sections and then take it in strolls. For example, there is a hike they call the Niagara of the West (or something like that) which is the same falls as in the Uncle Toms Trail falls , albeit a different view, which was fun hike. Then there is the Grand Prismatic and the Boiling Mud Pot and a bunch of other random holes that steams is billowing out from which I found very interesting. There was some insane winding road near a lake that we pulled over and all went swimming for an hour or so. Or there is place where the hot and cold waters meet... (there were lot of women there so I was unable to join my kids in the fun).

In terms of the geysers, Old Faithful is the best as itís the most predictable, you donít want to sit for hours waiting for something to erupt.

There are a bunch or ranger talks that kids of that age will love, they give out activity books that will keep the kids busy as well.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: yos9694 on July 06, 2020, 12:32:41 PM
Because it's a lot easier to say no than enforce restrictions. They don't owe it to us to give us what we want. It's their land, they don't want, and it's about time we respect their no.  Additionally, it's more likely they'll regret access than regret disallowing access.

What if we agree to keep to the highway and if we drink their water, either us or our cattle, we will pay its price?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: yitzgar on July 06, 2020, 12:50:53 PM
What if we agree to keep to the highway and if we drink their water, either us or our cattle, we will pay its price?
They are red....
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on July 06, 2020, 07:48:53 PM
If anyone's going to Grand Teton and can do me a small favor, please PM. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on July 07, 2020, 08:51:29 PM
If anyone's going to Grand Teton and can do me a small favor, please PM. Much appreciated.
time sensitive? I'm planning to go in August
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on July 07, 2020, 08:52:39 PM
Planning to visit from Monday - Thursday. Staying in Island Park, ID (30 min from West entrance). With 4 kids age 7-12.

Monday - Geysers  How to do this? Which ones? Is a full day too much? 
Tuesday - "Grand Canyon" & Hayden Valley
Wednesday - Which would you recommend????  (Mammoth, West Thumb/Yellowstone Lake, Lamar Valley)
Thursday - Grand Teton What to do here? Jenny Lake hike?(planning on driving halfway to Vegas after)

Besides for sightseeing, what activities would you recommend?
Uncle Tom's Trail
Fairy Falls Trail
Rafting or boating
Anything else??

Please share any thoughts.
Thanks!!
I found those routes helpful https://www.earthtrekkers.com/one-day-in-yellowstone-itinerary/
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on July 07, 2020, 08:53:38 PM
time sensitive? I'm planning to go in August

August is perfect.

I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on July 09, 2020, 06:10:40 PM
Is this realistic in 2 days if I am on the road 6 a.m.?
Day 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Lexington,+Jackson+Hole,+North+Cache+Street,+Jackson,+WY/schwabacher+landing/Jenny+Lake+Visitor+Center,+Moose,+WY/Cascade+Canyon,+Wyoming/Snake+River+Overlook,+Wyoming+83012/Oxbow+Bend,+Oxbow+Bend+Turn,+Moran,+WY/@43.6744156,-110.9164422,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m38!4m37!1m5!1m1!1s0x53531b35ef60bd15:0x76d7d940ee8205e4!2m2!1d-110.7625502!2d43.4832523!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352558615c92031:0x49efc9e404ac7d87!2m2!1d-110.6703898!2d43.7115652!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352547d90b1deff:0x99126bffbd5681a7!2m2!1d-110.7223178!2d43.7514858!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352537ab3be1413:0xb3224403ba475107!2m2!1d-110.7446572!2d43.7652108!1m5!1m1!1s0x535256ef892e42ef:0x5e821e59731ad52d!2m2!1d-110.6244218!2d43.7529797!1m5!1m1!1s0x53525b4c4c98c0b7:0xf45dce15cc3f6a2f!2m2!1d-110.5474015!2d43.8661723!3e0)

Day 2 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Lexington,+Jackson+Hole,+North+Cache+Street,+Jackson,+WY/Oxbow+Bend,+Oxbow+Bend+Turn,+Moran,+WY/Thumb+Geyser,+Yellowstone+National+Park,+WY+82190/Old+Faithful+Geyser,+Wyoming+82190/Grand+Prismatic+Spring,+Wyoming+82190/44.4762082,-110.5273534/Hayden+Valley,+Wyoming/Artist+Point,+Wyoming/@44.1179718,-111.0056156,8.52z/data=!4m45!4m44!1m5!1m1!1s0x53531b35ef60bd15:0x76d7d940ee8205e4!2m2!1d-110.7625502!2d43.4832523!1m5!1m1!1s0x53525b4c4c98c0b7:0xf45dce15cc3f6a2f!2m2!1d-110.5474015!2d43.8661723!1m5!1m1!1s0x5351fb87e8ca309f:0x9b47c1d020be3ce9!2m2!1d-110.5719063!2d44.416522!1m5!1m1!1s0x5351ed1c78b0412d:0xdaa08917bf693ec9!2m2!1d-110.8281308!2d44.4604724!1m5!1m1!1s0x5351ebbea155a649:0xdff59dcdc8fb8761!2m2!1d-110.8381793!2d44.5250346!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x534e1f5a89dcc757:0x678dd1ebdec42901!2m2!1d-110.4554805!2d44.6438286!1m5!1m1!1s0x534e23f6fa3de58f:0x85ad9e5405434281!2m2!1d-110.4793696!2d44.7210494!3e0)
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: yitzgar on July 09, 2020, 06:42:09 PM
Is this realistic in 2 days if I am on the road 6 a.m.?
Day 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Lexington,+Jackson+Hole,+North+Cache+Street,+Jackson,+WY/schwabacher+landing/Jenny+Lake+Visitor+Center,+Moose,+WY/Cascade+Canyon,+Wyoming/Snake+River+Overlook,+Wyoming+83012/Oxbow+Bend,+Oxbow+Bend+Turn,+Moran,+WY/@43.6744156,-110.9164422,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m38!4m37!1m5!1m1!1s0x53531b35ef60bd15:0x76d7d940ee8205e4!2m2!1d-110.7625502!2d43.4832523!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352558615c92031:0x49efc9e404ac7d87!2m2!1d-110.6703898!2d43.7115652!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352547d90b1deff:0x99126bffbd5681a7!2m2!1d-110.7223178!2d43.7514858!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352537ab3be1413:0xb3224403ba475107!2m2!1d-110.7446572!2d43.7652108!1m5!1m1!1s0x535256ef892e42ef:0x5e821e59731ad52d!2m2!1d-110.6244218!2d43.7529797!1m5!1m1!1s0x53525b4c4c98c0b7:0xf45dce15cc3f6a2f!2m2!1d-110.5474015!2d43.8661723!3e0)

Day 2 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Lexington,+Jackson+Hole,+North+Cache+Street,+Jackson,+WY/Oxbow+Bend,+Oxbow+Bend+Turn,+Moran,+WY/Thumb+Geyser,+Yellowstone+National+Park,+WY+82190/Old+Faithful+Geyser,+Wyoming+82190/Grand+Prismatic+Spring,+Wyoming+82190/44.4762082,-110.5273534/Hayden+Valley,+Wyoming/Artist+Point,+Wyoming/@44.1179718,-111.0056156,8.52z/data=!4m45!4m44!1m5!1m1!1s0x53531b35ef60bd15:0x76d7d940ee8205e4!2m2!1d-110.7625502!2d43.4832523!1m5!1m1!1s0x53525b4c4c98c0b7:0xf45dce15cc3f6a2f!2m2!1d-110.5474015!2d43.8661723!1m5!1m1!1s0x5351fb87e8ca309f:0x9b47c1d020be3ce9!2m2!1d-110.5719063!2d44.416522!1m5!1m1!1s0x5351ed1c78b0412d:0xdaa08917bf693ec9!2m2!1d-110.8281308!2d44.4604724!1m5!1m1!1s0x5351ebbea155a649:0xdff59dcdc8fb8761!2m2!1d-110.8381793!2d44.5250346!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x534e1f5a89dcc757:0x678dd1ebdec42901!2m2!1d-110.4554805!2d44.6438286!1m5!1m1!1s0x534e23f6fa3de58f:0x85ad9e5405434281!2m2!1d-110.4793696!2d44.7210494!3e0)
Day one definitely. Day two might be too ambitious
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on July 09, 2020, 08:27:13 PM
Day one definitely. Day two might be too ambitious
Thanks! I was thinking the same...
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: BCL on July 10, 2020, 04:03:45 PM
Thanks everyone for your input.

@VacationLover Earthtrekkers was helpful. I am basically following their 3-day itinerary.
I agree that your 2nd day looks agressive, but depends a lot on traffic and age of your kids. FWIU traffic in the park can add a lot of time. My kids are 7-12 (and a baby), so always takes longer than I anticipate. We are planning for the 2nd week of Aug.

Day 1: SW - Madison to Old Faithful. They say to see Grand Prismatic midday is best, so I think we will drive down to Old Faithful and work our way up. If there is time we can go further up to Norris Geyser Basin.

Day 2: SE - Canyon Village to West Thumb. I think my kids would enjoy boating on the lake. Any recommendations?? Anyone ever done this?

Day 3: N/NE - Mammoth Hot Springs to Tower. Then what?? Should we venture into Lamar Valley or go south and explore Tower to Canyon Village. Lamar Valley seems like a nice drive, but South seems to have places to get out and visit. Any ideas??

Day 4: Grand Teton. Probably similar to @VacationLover
But coming from Island Park, so 2 hours to get there. Is that still enough to do all this Day 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/The+Lexington,+Jackson+Hole,+North+Cache+Street,+Jackson,+WY/schwabacher+landing/Jenny+Lake+Visitor+Center,+Moose,+WY/Cascade+Canyon,+Wyoming/Snake+River+Overlook,+Wyoming+83012/Oxbow+Bend,+Oxbow+Bend+Turn,+Moran,+WY/@43.6744156,-110.9164422,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m38!4m37!1m5!1m1!1s0x53531b35ef60bd15:0x76d7d940ee8205e4!2m2!1d-110.7625502!2d43.4832523!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352558615c92031:0x49efc9e404ac7d87!2m2!1d-110.6703898!2d43.7115652!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352547d90b1deff:0x99126bffbd5681a7!2m2!1d-110.7223178!2d43.7514858!1m5!1m1!1s0x5352537ab3be1413:0xb3224403ba475107!2m2!1d-110.7446572!2d43.7652108!1m5!1m1!1s0x535256ef892e42ef:0x5e821e59731ad52d!2m2!1d-110.6244218!2d43.7529797!1m5!1m1!1s0x53525b4c4c98c0b7:0xf45dce15cc3f6a2f!2m2!1d-110.5474015!2d43.8661723!3e0)

Any other thoughts are greatly appreciated.
           



Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on July 22, 2020, 08:10:22 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/07/21/woman-plays-dead-to-avoid-bison-attack-at-yellowstone-video/amp/
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Kobe Bryant on July 22, 2020, 08:27:49 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/07/21/woman-plays-dead-to-avoid-bison-attack-at-yellowstone-video/amp/
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on July 22, 2020, 09:38:55 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/1xkgtw.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Mikes@Micro on July 23, 2020, 12:01:45 AM
Are you referring to the girl who tripped or the people screaming wake up?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: yitzgar on July 23, 2020, 07:44:52 AM
Are you referring to the girl who tripped or the people screaming wake up?
The girls who were near the bison
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: BCL on August 06, 2020, 02:52:18 PM
What app would you recommend to guide us through the parks? (YS and GT)
Interested in the info for my kids as we drive around, but more for clear directions.
I created a Google map with the points of interest that we want to see. Should I just use that? I should download to use offline? (pretty noobish with these things)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Kobe Bryant on August 06, 2020, 03:28:39 PM
What app would you recommend to guide us through the parks? (YS and GT)
Interested in the info for my kids as we drive around, but more for clear directions.
I created a Google map with the points of interest that we want to see. Should I just use that? I should download to use offline? (pretty noobish with these things)
Thanks!
I always download in advance on Google Maps the region I'm visiting (as there is hardly ever any service.)
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: usernane on August 07, 2020, 10:34:23 AM
I'm thinking of going to Yellowstone the upcoming week.
Is there a minyan around the area
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Yammer on August 13, 2020, 04:05:30 PM
I always download in advance on Google Maps the region I'm visiting (as there is hardly ever any service.)
+1
I'm thinking of going to Yellowstone the upcoming week.
Is there a minyan around the area
Nope
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on August 13, 2020, 09:46:39 PM
Day one definitely. Day two might be too ambitious
Day 2 we covered: oxbow bend sunrise, thumb geyser basin, old faithful, grand spring, artist point, upper falls, heyden valley several times, Yellowstone lake, saw bison, bison crossing street, deer, moose, grisly bear and 4 cubs. I am glad we got it all in in a day :)
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: yitzgar on August 14, 2020, 12:33:32 AM
Day 2 we covered: oxbow bend sunrise, thumb geyser basin, old faithful, grand spring, artist point, upper falls, heyden valley several times, Yellowstone lake, saw bison, bison crossing street, deer, moose, grisly bear and 4 cubs. I am glad we got it all in in a day :)
Glad it worked out for you. How crowded was it?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on August 14, 2020, 09:11:17 AM
Glad it worked out for you. How crowded was it?
A lot less than I thought. We only had 1 bear jam, otherwise no traffic at all. And it was easy to find parking everywhere.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Yammer on August 18, 2020, 03:44:36 AM
Day 2 we covered: oxbow bend sunrise, thumb geyser basin, old faithful, grand spring, artist point, upper falls, heyden valley several times, Yellowstone lake, saw bison, bison crossing street, deer, moose, grisly bear and 4 cubs. I am glad we got it all in in a day :)
Basically the Yellowstone lower loop + Oxbow bend.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: ari3 on August 18, 2020, 06:35:45 PM
A lot less than I thought. We only had 1 bear jam, otherwise no traffic at all. And it was easy to find parking everywhere.
funny I was there (either the week you were there or the week before) and I thought it was pretty crowded, especially in the main tourist spots like mammoth hot springs, old faithful and the upper geyser basin, grand canyon, grand prismatic springs etc. Although I was never there before to compare.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on August 18, 2020, 06:52:50 PM
funny I was there (either the week you were there or the week before) and I thought it was pretty crowded, especially in the main tourist spots like mammoth hot springs, old faithful and the upper geyser basin, grand canyon, grand prismatic springs etc. Although I was never there before to compare.
I was there Aug 10-13. Did you have car traffic?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: lakewood34 on August 18, 2020, 11:57:15 PM
I was there Aug 10-13. Did you have car traffic?

i know that multiple park rangers said that it was just as busy as any other year
i was there the week before you. I did not have car traffic but i did run into parking issues at a lot of the more popular areas
If you were there at peak times (meaning not early morning or late afternoon )you had to wait awhile to get a spot
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: ari3 on August 19, 2020, 01:21:38 AM
I was there Aug 10-13. Did you have car traffic?
Was there Aug 4-5. We had some traffic at grand canyon, in Hayden valley (due to a large herd of bison hanging out around the road), and at prismatic springs. We had parking issues at mammoth hot springs and grand canyon.
Nothing terrible but seemed pretty crowded in the main parts.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: VacationLover on August 24, 2020, 12:35:03 AM
https://county10.com/fire-at-yellowstone-national-park-forces-temporary-closures/
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: TravelPhyl on August 24, 2020, 02:39:50 AM
Do you know which parts are closed?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Ezriel on March 02, 2021, 10:20:34 PM
Seeing the cheap tickets today, is this a good idea to go to Yellowstone mid March, or it's still to cold, etc.?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: whYME on March 02, 2021, 10:25:15 PM
Seeing the cheap tickets today, is this a good idea to go to Yellowstone mid March, or it's still to cold, etc.?
Most of the park is still closed for the winter.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Ezriel on March 02, 2021, 10:30:02 PM
Most of the park is still closed for the winter.
Never been there.
is that mean that there is no point going there now?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: whYME on March 02, 2021, 10:34:30 PM
Never been there.
is that mean that there is no point going there now?
yeah, pretty much.

(I'm sure it's absolutely amazing now if you have a snowmobile, but I'm not sure exactly the logistics of that. IIRC it's quite difficult/expensive. I think @Something Fishy looked into it a while back.)
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: tov hashem on March 02, 2021, 10:36:29 PM
what about in end of may?
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on March 02, 2021, 10:36:48 PM
Pretty much closed March other than the north road. You can take some winter tours if you like but they're not cheap.

https://www.nps.gov/yell/planyourvisit/parkroads.htm
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on March 02, 2021, 10:38:13 PM
what about in end of may?

Mostly open but subject to closure. Earliest in the season I was ever there was early June and there were still periodic snow closures.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Something Fishy on March 02, 2021, 10:39:38 PM
This was June 12:

(https://i.postimg.cc/VkrFxb0s/IMG-20210302-223848-714.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K1bLLj5C)
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: whYME on March 02, 2021, 10:43:14 PM
what about in end of may?
Mostly open but subject to closure. Earliest in the season I was ever there was early June and there were still periodic snow closures.
My first time there was last days of May / First days of June (I don't remember exactly) IIRC there some closures (the beartooth highway was definitely closed) but I did make it to all the major attractions. And the place was completely empty.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: yos9694 on March 03, 2021, 09:22:47 AM
Oh it's definitely worth going in May even if there's risk of snow. Baby bison!
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Ezriel on March 03, 2021, 10:04:15 AM
Thank you.
Changed to May 2nd. hopefully it won't be too bad.
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: Esther on April 05, 2021, 11:21:41 PM
Iím planning on going to Yellowstone/Grand Teton mid May. Thanks everyone who posted their trip reports - it was extremely helpful. I mapped out a tentative itinerary - was wondering if anyone whoís been there can chime in. I donít mind packing it in on a vacation but what I have seems too aggressive. Additionally, Iím having trouble where to stay each night as majority of the park hotels are closed the dates I will be there.

Sunday
Arrive 1:30pm
Stop by Walmart to get some food
Mammoth Springs, Minerva Terrace
Can stay in Gardiner, MT for the night

Monday
Artist Paintpots
Norris Geyser Basin
Canyon junction (probably just the Upper Falls as I donít think I want a strenuous like like Uncle Tomís Trail)
Hayden Valley
Mud Volcano

Tuesday
Yellowstone Lake
Old Faithful, Grand Prismatic Spring
Iím stuck here. I would head to Grand Teton - should I do Lewis Falls, Jackson Lake, Oxbow Bend, Jenny lake, Hedrik Pond, Antelope Flats, or Teton Crest Trail? Or a combination of them?
Would stay in Jackson for the night

Wednesday
sunrise at Schwabacher landing
Gross ventre wilderness?
Idaho Falls
Idaho potato museum
Is it crazy to do Shoshone Falls and Craters of the Moon too?
Thinking of driving more and staying in Big Sky or Bozeman for the night

Thursday
Gallitan River/Canyon
2:40pm flight

Thank you!
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: gubevo18 on April 13, 2021, 06:59:46 PM
Do campgrounds ever get cancellations? Im looking to go in early May but there is only one campground open (Mammoth) at that point, and it is fully booked for the date I was looking at. Any chance it will open up as we get closer? did anyone ever have any success showing up and hoping for a cancellation? thanks
Title: Re: Grand Teton and Yellowstone National Parks
Post by: gubevo18 on April 19, 2021, 07:13:21 PM
Do campgrounds ever get cancellations? Im looking to go in early May but there is only one campground open (Mammoth) at that point, and it is fully booked for the date I was looking at. Any chance it will open up as we get closer? did anyone ever have any success showing up and hoping for a cancellation? thanks

Answer: Yes they do.