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Title: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 06, 2013, 05:48:05 PM
Having a baby a mere 2 weeks before the start of bein hazmanim, I pretty much wrote off any sort of trip. It was to be the first summer since we got married that we were going to simply stay put. However, being bitten by the travel bug as I am, as bein hazmanim progressed, the itch kept on getting stronger. We decided to make a go of it, and planned a “light” trip to Europe to see some of the cities we had missed in our travels. My travelling through Europe until this point had been focused on seeing countries. I had always wanted to see Prague & Vienna so we decided this would be the perfect opportunity. I searched around for flights and found a charter airline flying to Prague for $350 a ticket. Not too bad considering we decided to go a week before we actually left. And off we were, with our 5 year old, 2 year old, a new 3 week old baby.

Our flight on Friday morning was on Travel Service/SmartWings at 9:10am which got us into PRG at about 12:15pm. After eating some lunch, feeding the baby, renting the car etc., we hit the road at about 10 to 2. Driving was fairly easy, and we drove it in under 3.5 hrs plus a half hour for breaks, and we arrived in Vienna at around a quarter to 6. TIP: If you are ever considering doing some serious driving in Europe, it’s definitely worth your while to learn how to drive stick.

Something to remember, we picked up the car in the Czech Republic, and the car had a sticker on it from the CR. When you cross the border into Austria, you need to buy a sticker to put on your windshield to be able to drive there. Any gas station should sell them, and they cost around 10 Euro for 7 days IIRC.

Our first stop was at the kosher restaurant, Alef Alef. As far as Shabbos meals, this is pretty much the only option, and they require prepayment. To our horror though, they were closed when we got there around 6. As it was late, (shekia was around 8:45pm but davening is at 7 with the meal directly following) we rushed to the hotel, the Imperial.

As our plan was to be in Vienna for four nights, I broke one of my rules and booked 2 nights at the Imperial, and 2 nights at the Bristol, both Luxury Collection hotels. The Imperial, the nicest hotel in town, was too expensive to book for all the nights, even at the SPG C+P rate, and to stay at the Bristol all 4 nights also wasn’t an option, because after all, how can we go to Vienna and not stay at the Imperial? So we decided to do 2 and 2.

The Imperial definitely lives up to the hype. It’s truly a beautiful hotel, as the former palace of a prince. When the Queen of England visited Vienna, she was put up at the Imperial due to lack of nicer accommodations. The service was impeccable as well.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 06, 2013, 05:49:14 PM
I had some suite night awards that I applied when booking, and we were confirmed in the Elisabeth Suite before arriving. The suite itself was very nice, although not enormous. One of the perks of being in a suite is having personal butler service, though I didn’t get too much use out of him aside for pressing some clothing.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 06, 2013, 05:49:26 PM
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As far as parking my car, the hotel charges somewhere around 40-50 Euro per night, an amount I was not prepared to pay. There are Park and Ride lots around the city which charge 3 Euro per day. As I wasn’t planning on using the car too much in Vienna, it was a no brainer to use the lot, the closest one being merely 6 subway stops away. (I only needed the car to get back to Prague, as 2 one ways was significantly more expensive than the roundtrip.) However, as I arrived late, I figured I would be stuck paying at least for one night of hotel parking. In the end, the hotel has street parking close by, and the hotel ‘greeter’ offered to “feed the meter” for me which ended up being 8 Euros, and Saturday and Sunday being free, which worked out wonderfully.

Getting into the room, I immediately called the owner of Alef Alef and explained to him my predicament and he reluctantly agreed to let me pay after Shabbos. We quickly showered and dressed and headed out to the Synagogue next to the restaurant. Vienna installed an eruv in the last few years, which made life much easier. We were able to push our stroller, and I had printed out directions at home from Google Maps, which made finding the shul a breeze, around a 15 minute walk from the hotel.

The meal was good, but we had arrived in unusual heat, the likes of which hadn’t been seen in Vienna for over 30 years. The restaurant, like many buildings in Vienna, doesn’t have A/C, and the two ceiling fans didn’t really help the situation. (Besides for the tables directly under them.) Shabbos day thankfully we had an invitation to eat a local’s air conditioned house, as it was sweltering, and I don’t know how we could have possibly managed at Alef Alef.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 06, 2013, 06:01:06 PM
I forgot to mention another “perk” they give you is a leather business card holder with business cards that have your name on it, as a temporary resident at the Imperial with the Imperials address and phone number.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: rots5 on August 06, 2013, 06:11:56 PM
great TR. i knew we can count on u for a bain hazmanim TR, even after a new one.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: AJK on August 06, 2013, 08:05:19 PM
First, nice TR.

Second, I have to hand it to you moish, your use of grammar, punctuation, and capitalization, are excellent. I knew you had it in you!

Three, and maybe it's just me,but I think the Imperial looks awfully dated and unattractive.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 09:05:35 PM
Never really understood the point of a butler in a hotel.

Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: damaxer91 on August 06, 2013, 09:06:53 PM
Never really understood the point of a butler in a hotel.



+1. Especially in St. Regis hotels
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 09:10:44 PM
+1. Especially in St. Regis hotels
At the SR Kauai I just wanted a darn ice machine, not having to call and tip for a bucket of Ice :P
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: damaxer91 on August 06, 2013, 09:20:55 PM
At the SR Kauai I just wanted a darn ice machine, not having to call and tip for a bucket of Ice :P

No need to tip for a bucket of ice
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
No need to tip for a bucket of ice
Eh, still awkward. Don't really know the tipping protocol, wound up just not using them at all.
Is there something I'm missing? What should they be doing for us exactly?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: sky121 on August 06, 2013, 09:28:57 PM
At the SR Kauai I just wanted a darn ice machine, not having to call and tip for a bucket of Ice :P

+100 one of the cons of staying in 'nice' hotels.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: MEIR613 on August 06, 2013, 09:40:04 PM
Never really understood the point of a butler in a hotel.
I just stayed in the St Regis in PR and it came in very handy.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 10:04:21 PM
I just stayed in the St Regis in PR and it came in very handy.
That's pretty vague.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: MEIR613 on August 06, 2013, 10:09:26 PM
That's pretty vague.
It was very late at night and we just finished eating and I needed a toothpick desperately.

It was pretty convenient just calling someone and within 3 minutes, I had 4 individually wrapped toothpicks served on a silver platter.   
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: PlatinumGuy on August 06, 2013, 10:14:37 PM
It was very late at night and we just finished eating and I needed a toothpick desperately.

It was pretty convenient just calling someone and within 3 minutes, I had 4 individually wrapped toothpicks served on a silver platter.
You can do that any hotel. 3 minutes isn't all that fast.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: MEIR613 on August 06, 2013, 10:19:57 PM
You can do that any hotel. 3 minutes isn't all that fast.
I guess I need to get out a bit more ;)
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
Lol :D
But couldn't any old room service have done that as well?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Centro on August 06, 2013, 10:29:11 PM
Eh, still awkward. Don't really know the tipping protocol, wound up just not using them at all.
Is there something I'm missing? What should they be doing for us exactly?
O, thought I'm the only one thinking so.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: MEIR613 on August 06, 2013, 11:46:41 PM
Lol :D
But couldn't any old room service have done that as well?
With a sliver tray :D
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: rots5 on August 07, 2013, 02:04:17 AM
imperial just looks old fashioned with gold and such

now a days i think the younger gen doesnt appreciate it as much, and would rather a gorgeous resort with pools and bars all over. just my opinion.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: meshugener on August 07, 2013, 05:58:10 AM
How do you do that 3 weeks after baby's born?
Perhaps your wife had oral delivery.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Racer7400 on August 07, 2013, 06:04:55 AM
Great TR
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 07:44:29 AM
Never really understood the point of a butler in a hotel.


one of their duties is to unpack and pack your suitcases. i intend to use that service when i stay in a single location long enough
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 07:49:11 AM
imperial just looks old fashioned with gold and such

now a days i think the younger gen doesnt appreciate it as much, and would rather a gorgeous resort with pools and bars all over. just my opinion.
you are confusing city hotels and resort hotels. when visiting a beautiful city, such as paris or vienna, im definitely not looking for a hotel with many pools etc.

an old fashioned hotel or dated hotel is when the hotel has old uncomfortable beds, floor creaks, smells like my grandmothers house, everything manual, furniture starting to come apart etc. the ideal for me is when they take an old elegant hotel and refurbish and reinvigorate it for use in the 21st century. this hotel falls into the latter category, as well as the westin palace in madrid. 
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 07:49:55 AM
How do you do that 3 weeks after baby's born?
Perhaps your wife had oral delivery.
nope, no oral delivery. natural delivery b"H at home

 did you miss the part where i wrote "light"?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: damaxer91 on August 07, 2013, 08:17:29 AM
you are confusing city hotels and resort hotels. when visiting a beautiful city, such as paris or vienna, im definitely not looking for a hotel with many pools etc.

an old fashioned hotel or dated hotel is when the hotel has old uncomfortable beds, floor creaks, smells like my grandmothers house, everything manual, furniture starting to come apart etc. the ideal for me is when they take an old elegant hotel and refurbish and reinvigorate it for use in the 21st century. this hotel falls into the latter category, as well as the westin palace in madrid. 

Try explaining that to some of the people here #goodluck
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Jkhein on August 07, 2013, 08:18:45 AM
nope, no oral delivery. natural delivery b"H at home

 did you miss the part where i wrote "light"?
delivery at home? Wasn't there pashkivilin against them recently?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 09:06:33 AM
delivery at home? Wasn't there pashkivilin against them recently?
what would be the reason?

either way, in my situation it wasnt by choice...
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Jkhein on August 07, 2013, 09:11:16 AM
what would be the reason?

either way, in my situation it wasnt by choice...
the reason being that they dont go to doctors for tznius reason, and only do home births, if it works is good and if not, not r"l
Well, my neighbour has given birth to all (4) of their children at home too, also not their choice.
Bituach leumi are definitely happy.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: meshugener on August 07, 2013, 09:13:39 AM
Even if you call it a light trip, I can't imagine doing that.

@JKhein
Why pashkevilin? What's the problem? I heard its very popular recently in some communities.
ETA: just saw your last post, some do it because (they say) it feels something special and natural... Nothing to with tznius
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Jkhein on August 07, 2013, 09:17:43 AM
Even if you call it a light trip, I can't imagine doing that.

@JKhien
Why pashkevilin? What's the problem? I heard its very popular recently in some communities.
there have been fatalities
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 09:30:34 AM
On Sunday we bought a ticket for the Hofburg, the former Imperial residence in Vienna. The ticket, which includes an audioguide, starts off with the Silver Collection. At first it’s quite interesting, but after a bit it starts to get a bit boring. You can then skip to the next ‘attraction’, the Sisi Museum, which explores the troubled life of Sisi, wife of Franz Josef. The next attraction is by far the most interesting, the Imperial Apartments. Here you can see where and how the Hapsburgs lived including the iron bed of Franz Josef.

Next, we bought a ticket to see the Imperial Treasury, also in the Hofburg complex. Here you can see all the crowns and jewels you’d like. Some say it’s more spectacular than the Crown Jewels in London, but I didn’t think so.

Largest cut emerald in the world
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Another famous attraction in the Hofburg Palace is the Spanish Riding School with a great horse show, but they too take a vacation in the summer. Other performances missed due to summer is the world famous Vienna Philharmonic as well as the Boys Choir. It was a tad strange experiencing Vienna without experiencing the music it is famous for. I guess that means I will have to make a winter visit at some point.

Next, we made our way to the Jewish Museum on Dorotheergasse which I didn’t find too informative.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 09:31:36 AM
On the way to the museum, we happened upon a pro Morsi demonstration with some demonstrators waving the green Hamas flag. It’s for reasons like these that I wear a cap whenever I travel.

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We then went back to Alef Alef for dinner and to pay for Shabbos. Yes, we sat directly under the fans which made for a comfortable meal. The star of the show here is the classic Viennese dish, the Viennese Schnitzel which I found to be delicious. Too bad it’s not served on Shabbos.

I should mention that we found the subway system in Vienna to be extremely efficient, with trains coming around every 5 minutes. There are also elevators in virtually every station making it very stroller friendly. We bought the 72 hr pass which set us back 14.5 Euros each. Just be sure to validate it the first time, and after that, I just kept it in my wallet since there are no turnstiles in the metro system.

Before we set out in the morning, we had our suitcases all packed up and I told the front desk that should they need the room after 4pm they can just take my bags out and leave them in storage. When I arrived back at the hotel around 8:30pm, they told me they just left my bags in the room since I might need to use the bathroom etc. before I check out. I checked out, loaded the bags into my car and drove the one minute to our new hotel, the Bristol.

The Bristol, while still a nice hotel, lacks much of the elegance of its bigger brother the Imperial, and the service is not as personal. I used my suite night awards as well and was upgraded to the Opera Suite before arrival. While not as polished as the room in the Imperial (the floors creaked) the room was much larger, and when travelling with 3 kids, bigger is always better.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 09:32:07 AM
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Seats in the elevator, great idea!
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Marco Polo on August 07, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
Great TR. Not one of the top places on my "to do" list, but it will make it on.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: AJK on August 07, 2013, 10:00:14 AM
Try explaining that to some of the people here #goodluck

It's not a matter of proper explanation. It's a matter of a taste.

And, to me, the "dated" look is hideous.

Feel free to have your own taste.

Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Marco Polo on August 07, 2013, 10:39:50 AM
It's not a matter of proper explanation. It's a matter of a taste.

And, to me, the "dated" look is hideous.

Feel free to have your own taste.
I would be wondering if the linen was as old as how the room looks.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: AJK on August 07, 2013, 10:48:18 AM
I would be wondering if the linen was as old as how the room looks.

 ;D
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Dan on August 07, 2013, 10:50:28 AM
one of their duties is to unpack and pack your suitcases. i intend to use that service when i stay in a single location long enough
Eh, I'd rather pack and unpack my own underwear.

Still waiting on your NZ report...that's more up my alley.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 11:23:23 AM
Monday morning, after a brief breakfast at the Ohel Moshe Bakery on Lilienbrunngasse, we drove out to the city of Bratislava (Pressburg in German), capital of Slovakia. Just as when we crossed the border into Austria, when crossing the border into Slovakia it’s necessary to purchase a sticker to permit driving there. After around 45 minutes of driving, we arrived at the gravesite of the Chasam Sofer. During WW2, the large cemetery was exhumed and reburied elsewhere, besides for the Chasam Sofer and a few others which were left intact, and a road was built over their graves. In order to access this now underground crypt, you must call a number for someone to open it, which we did in the morning. Besides for the Chasam Sofer, the graves of R’ Meshulam Igra as well as R’ Akiva Eiger’s grandfather, also named R’ Akiva Eiger, can be found there.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 11:24:06 AM
I had read that the Chasam Sofer’s sefarim were on display at the local Jewish museum, so we decided to visit as I’m into that kind of stuff. However, I couldn’t find any of them, and when I asked some of the workers if they knew anything about it, they answered that I can find books for sale at the gift shop…

Chevra Kadisha horsedrawn hearse
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Arriving back in Vienna, instead of parking at the Park + Ride, someone who I was corresponding with was currently on holiday and let me use his spot in the parking lot behind the bakery.

We then walked to the Judenplatz, where a memorial to the murdered Austrian Jews is located. Adjacent to that is a small museum which contains the archeological remains of a medieval synagogue destroyed in one of the many pogroms and expulsions of the Jews from Austria.

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After that we went for dinner at the dairy Novellino restaurant which was just ok.

is it normal to charge for tap water?
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 11:24:43 AM
After dinner we visited the Prater amusement park. There is no admission fee to the park, but they charge you per ride. The park is famous for its ferris wheel which had a starring role in the Orson Welles film, The Third Man. Other than that, most of the rides in the park are geared toward older kids, but we were able to find a few kiddie ones.

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Great shot, IMHO
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Side incomer on August 07, 2013, 12:14:52 PM
And all this is still called "light"?  :D
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
i probably should have mentioned that a babysitter was watching my 2 older kids while i went out with my wife and the little one. so that makes it lighter
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: rots5 on August 07, 2013, 12:29:22 PM
great stuff moish (again)

and damaxer, i understand what you and moish are aiming for and what the idea is. i just happen not to be so into these st. regis (ny) type hotels. i dont appreciate the fancy hotels just yet... ill learn :)
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 01:45:29 PM
Tuesday, our last day in Vienna, we took the subway to the summer getaway of the Hapsburgs, Schonbrunn Palace, the Versailles of Austria. It’s usually packed during the summer months, so it’s recommended to arrive early. As it’s capacity controlled, it could very well be that when you get your ticket at say 12pm, you’re entrance time will be at 4. Alternatively, you can buy tickets online, but you need to choose a specific time. The third option, which I chose, is to buy the Sisi ticket for 25.5 Euro, which gives access to the Hofburg Palace (I bought my ticket there), Schonbrunn without any time limitations and the Imperial Furniture Collection, which I didn’t have time for. There are two audioguides for the Schonbrunn tour, the Imperial tour and the Grand tour, included in the Sisi ticket, which is bit longer.

There is also a possibility for an English guided tour, but with the baby, it would be too difficult to take. Besides for the actual tour of the palace, there are also huge grounds to explore, including a garden maze, zoo etc. but I didn’t have time for them.

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Before leaving on the trip, I downloaded Rick Steves free audio guides, one of which is a tram ride along the Ringstrasse, which we did as soon as we got back from Schonbrunn. The start and end of the tour is at the Opera, across the street from our hotel.

Directly behind the Opera and the Sacher Hotel (known for the famous Viennese treat, the Sacher Torte) is Albertinaplatz, where there are various memorials. One of which is a memorial to the Jews, young and old, who were forced to scrub the streets with only a toothbrush.

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We then went to dinner at Pizzeria Prego (Taborstraße 43) for some decent pizza. We picked up the car, checked out of the Bristol, and started our drive back to Prague.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
Random Notes:
- Breastfeeding in public is acceptable and normal there, but we used a nursing cover.
- Tap water is safe, it’s actually spring water.
- Any music that comes to you (guys dressed like Mozart hawking concerts) is not worthwhile.

Random Pics

the cobblestones of Europe are no match for our 4x4 offroad 2008 Mountain Buggy
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Pretty cool effect...
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 05:10:11 PM
The way back to Prague only took us 3 hrs of driving as there were fewer cars on the road, and much of the way is a 2 lane road. We arrived at our hotel, the Sheraton Prague Charles Square. I had used suite upgrades for this hotel as well and was confirmed into a duplex suite. However, when I got to the room, it was extremely tight and asked to be switched. The front desk manager took me on a tour of about 4 different suites until we found one that seemed a bit more spacious.

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Street parking in available if you continue on the same side as the Sheraton and make the first left, there are plenty of spots. However, you must start feeding the meter at 8am.

While there is a decent metro system, and I had initially thought I would use it, it’s not too stroller friendly as many of the stations don’t even have escalators. Taxis, for the most part, are cheap compared to other European cities. Most taxi rides within the city cost within 100-200 CZK (~$5-10). Prague taxis are notorious for ripping tourists off, so it’s absolutely essential to call for one, as opposed to picking one up on the street. One of the better companies, AAA, actually has a very useful app that I downloaded before I arrived, that after 2 buttons pressed, your taxi is on its way, and you can track his progress on a map.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 05:12:15 PM
On Wednesday, after returning the car at the local Avis, we met up with a tour guide for the Jewish area. In hindsight, I would've just done it myself. I have a great book with a wealth of information that I used for the sights not covered by the tour, and I enjoyed it much more. In any event, we bought tickets for the Jewish Museum. The Jewish Museum is housed in various synagogues no longer in use, and their primary functions today are exhibition halls for the museum.

The Jewish Museum in Prague contains the greatest collection of judaica in all of Europe, as this was to be the sight of the museum of the vanished race run by the Nazis. Thus, all the judaica seized by the Nazis made their way to Prague. During the war, this museum actually opened in the women’s section of the Alteneuschul.

We visited the Maisel Synagogue, the Klausen Synagogue, davened mincha in the Hoich Shul, visited the Spanish Synagogue, The Chevra Kadisha building and The Pinkas Synagogue.
At the Maisel Synagogue, a very interesting symbol can be found, as well as in other locations throughout the Jewish area. It’s the Jewish hat inside a magen david. While required of the Jews to wear outside the ghetto, the intentions of the Gentiles were to belittle the Jew. However, as only the most prominent Jews were allowed to leave the ghetto, it became a sign of prestige amongst the Jews. As one book put it, the dunce cap had become a Versace.

Maisel Synagogue
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'Hoich' Shul
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 05:13:14 PM
The cemetery, where the Maharal and Kli Yakar are buried, is also included on the ticket.

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Maharal
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Kli Yakar
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 07, 2013, 05:14:41 PM
Exiting the cemetery, there are bunch of vans, each one painted with a different restaurant. Apparently, the golem cooks and serves at the King Solomon restaurant.

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For dinner, we went to the chabad restaurant, Shelanu, which was just ok.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 08, 2013, 06:47:50 AM
At the SR Kauai I just wanted a darn ice machine, not having to call and tip for a bucket of Ice :P
i find the best way to avoid giving a tip is to be in the bathroom when he knocks and my wife answer the door. i generally only tip the guys that help with my luggage
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moko on August 08, 2013, 07:53:43 AM
i find the best way to avoid giving a tip is to be in the bathroom when he knocks and my wife answer the door. i generally only tip the guys that help with my luggage
i'm pretty sure bellhops expect a tip from women as much as they would from men (so your wife feels like a fool instead of u?) ???
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: damaxer91 on August 08, 2013, 08:04:55 AM
i find the best way to avoid giving a tip is to be in the bathroom when he knocks and my wife answer the door. i generally only tip the guys that help with my luggage

Lol. Perhaps you are confusing butlers with Meshulachim?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moko on August 08, 2013, 08:06:31 AM
Lol. Perhaps you are confusing butlers with Meshulachim?
like ;D
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 08, 2013, 05:26:40 PM
i'm pretty sure bellhops expect a tip from women as much as they would from men (so your wife feels like a fool instead of u?) ???
bellhops usually help with luggage. see again what i wrote regarding luggage
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 04:50:13 AM
Thursday morning we took a taxi to the Prague Castle, the biggest ancient castle in the world according to Guinness World Records. We opted to buy tickets for the “short visit” which included entry to the following locations: St. Vitus Cathedral, Old Royal Palace, St. George's Basilica, Golden Lane. As you can see, 2 of the 4 locations are churches which I don’t enter. The audioguide was also extremely expensive so I figured I’d make do with the signposts. In the end that was a mistake as I didn’t get the proper experience at the Old Royal Palace.

There is a changing of the guard on the hour, but the one at 12 noon has the full fanfare and flag ceremony which I attended. Some might say it’s a bit too drawn out.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 04:50:46 AM
After the changing of the guard, we went to the Golden Lane, included on the ticket. The Golden Lane is a 15th century street with quaint little houses that at one time housed the sharpshooters of the palace. Today, they house reproductions of the old world style of living as well as the very interesting medieval armory displaying suits of armor and weaponry throughout the ages.

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Torture chamber
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Gun knife hybrid
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 04:51:44 AM
We then strolled down towards the old town, crossing the famous Charles Bridge, dating from the 14th century. I personally didn’t like much of the artwork for sale on the bridge, but as others have pointed out, haggling is possible should you be interested. Coming from the palace, the third to last statue on the left side is the infamous kadosh kadosh cross, paid for by a Jew in 1696 for allegedly “blaspheming” the cross.

We then bought tickets to the Altneuschul and toured it. (Entrance to the Alteneuschul is not included on the Jewish Museum ticket although you can buy it at the same time for a small discount.) As I stated previously, I have a great Jewish guidebook on Prague and we spent some time in the Alteneuschul analyzing the details. After all, it is the oldest continually used synagogue in all of Europe, built in 1270. While no photography is allowed inside, as long as you keep you flash off, you should be fine. Alternatively, you can come for mincha/maariv for free, and can take as many photos as you’d like. Just make sure to come a little early, as during prayer times there’s a guard who asks more questions than security at TLV.

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Place of the Maharal, and to the left, the Noda Beyehuda
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Attic of the Altneuschul, what lurks within???
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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 04:53:05 AM
Adjacent to the Altneuschul is the Jewish Town Hall from 1560. On the side of that building is an interesting clock with the Alef Bais instead of numbers, and runs counterclockwise.

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"design" on the facade of a building. Magen david associated with stacks of coins....
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We then went to Dinitz for dinner which was enjoyable. TIP: After you exit the old cemetery, there are stalls on the right side selling all sorts of knickknacks. One of the ones closer to the cemetery sells pocket mirrors. That stall also has 10% off coupons to Dinitz if paying cash. As the credit card machine wasn’t working anyways when we were there, it was great to have the coupon.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 11, 2013, 05:33:08 AM
Thanks a lot for the nice report !
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 11, 2013, 05:49:22 AM
Nice report, thanks.

I don't know the guy in the second to last picture, but I'm pretty sure (given the whole look) that he wouldn't want this picture posted on a public forum.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 05:55:57 AM
Nice report, thanks.

I don't know the guy in the second to last picture, but I'm pretty sure (given the whole look) that he wouldn't want this picture posted on a public forum.
alright, ill remove it, but i found it to be so funny
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Drago on August 11, 2013, 07:41:43 AM
imperial just looks old fashioned with gold and such

now a days i think the younger gen doesnt appreciate it as much, and would rather a gorgeous resort with pools and bars all over. just my opinion.
I stopped into the Imperial last year when staying at the Bristol, and it's stunning.
When staying in Vienna, you don't want modern, you're looking for that royalty feel. It suits the city very nicely.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 08:05:35 AM
I stopped into the Imperial last year when staying at the Bristol, and it's stunning.
When staying in Vienna, you don't want modern, you're looking for that royalty feel. It suits the city very nicely.
it's refreshing to see that someone "gets" it
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: SuperFlyer on August 11, 2013, 08:10:13 AM
it's refreshing to see that someone "gets" it

I'm getting it, but trying not too.

I don't have access to free hotel points etc...

Trying to enjoy more simple hotels C:-)
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: andrew on August 11, 2013, 08:15:26 AM
Never really understood the point of a butler in a hotel.
my sole was falling off my shoe and i needed a shoemaker to repair it, I wasnt interested in taking up time to do it myself, so one call  to the butler and he picked them up went to the shoemaker and returned it, all i had to pay was the invoice from the shoemaker. i would assume that butler service will do all similar "emergency'' services like this such as needing diapers or medicine etc.

For your information, every room at the imperial has butler service not just suites.

I was at the meridian in vienna and had AC problems, the hotel was fully booked so they checked me into the imperial, when you visit palaces like versaillles and shonbrun and your stunned by the elegance and luxury that makes it so famous its sort of the same in a smaller way staying in converted hotels such as Imperial (with modern world additions)
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Drago on August 11, 2013, 08:23:46 AM
services like this such as needing diapers or medicine etc.
I wonder what they would answer if you asked them to change a diaper.
:)

Anyone wanna bet?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 08:29:33 AM
For your information, every room at the imperial has butler service not just suites.

i dont think that's accurate

http://www.imperialvienna.com/en/rooms/classic

vs

http://www.imperialvienna.com/en/rooms/elisabeth_suite

click on 'read more'
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 08:32:55 AM
my sole was falling off my shoe and i needed a shoemaker to repair it, I wasnt interested in taking up time to do it myself, so one call  to the butler and he picked them up went to the shoemaker and returned it, all i had to pay was the invoice from the shoemaker. i would assume that butler service will do all similar "emergency'' services like this such as needing diapers or medicine etc.

other hotels without butler service might do the same, such as when i was at the park hyatt sydney and needed some plastic ware, they went to the store and bought it for me, charging me the cost only
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: andrew on August 11, 2013, 08:51:22 AM
i dont think that's accurate

http://www.imperialvienna.com/en/rooms/classic

vs

http://www.imperialvienna.com/en/rooms/elisabeth_suite

click on 'read more'
when i was there the classic room also had it, the phones there if im not mistaken has a button for butler service so anyone can take advantage.

The advantage of butler service is that you can count on it happening because thats why they are there as opposed to other hotels just having good service and might be willing to do the same.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
when i was there the classic room also had it, the phones there if im not mistaken has a button for butler service so anyone can take advantage.

did the butler greet you when you checked in to your room?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 09:12:44 AM
The advantage of butler service is that you can count on it happening because thats why they are there as opposed to other hotels just having good service and might be willing to do the same.
im pretty sure you can count on any higher end hotel doing that.

unpacking and packing your suitcase though, thats something else
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: andrew on August 11, 2013, 01:41:40 PM
did the butler greet you when you checked in to your room?
dont remember
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 03:36:13 PM
Friday morning, we took a taxi to the old cemetery of Zizkov (near the TV tower) to visit the the kevarim of the Noda Beyehuda and R’ Eliezer Flaklas, the Teshuva Meahavah. My original research led me to believe that the cemetery is only open on Tuesdays and Thursdays, but I subsequently learned that it’s open on Mondays and Wednesdays between 11am and 3pm, and on Friday between 9am and 1pm.

Noda Beyehuda
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We then took a taxi to the Stefanikuv Bridge where we picked up a Vltava River cruise. We went on the 1pm English cruise offered by Premient Tours, one of the better tour operators. They also offer hotel pickup IIRC.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 03:37:31 PM
We then walked to the old town square to watch the ‘glockenspiel’ spectacle which occurs on the hour from 8am to 8pm on the old town clock. When the clock strikes the hour, a kind of politically incorrect medieval morality play begins. Two doors slide open and the statues of the Twelve Apostles glide by, while the 15th-century conception of the "evils" of life -- a Death skeleton, a preening Vanity, a corrupt Turk, and an acquisitive Jew -- shake and dance below. At the end of World War II, the horns and beard were removed from the moneybag-holding Jew, who's now politely referred to as Greed. I found it to be far less entertaining than the glockenspiel in Munich.

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It's worth climbing the Old Town Hall's tower for an excellent view over the red rooftops of Staromestské námestí and the surrounding area. But be warned: The steps are narrow, steep, and quite physically demanding, so the less courageous should take the elevator, which we did.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 11, 2013, 03:38:30 PM
We then walked to the New Town Hall, a few minute walk away at Marianske Namesti 2, to see the statue of the Maharal and Golem installed in 1912.

Maharal?
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Golem?
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We then checked out of the Sheraton and checked in to the Hilton Old Town for a number of different reasons, but primarily due to the fact that it was way closer to the Jewish area thus less walking on Shabbos. As a Gold member with Hilton we were upgraded to a junior suite.

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Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Dan on August 11, 2013, 06:47:07 PM
im pretty sure you can count on any higher end hotel doing that.

unpacking and packing your suitcase though, thats something else
+1
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Galitzyaner on August 11, 2013, 06:51:10 PM
Moish, what camera did you use for these pics?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: A European on August 11, 2013, 11:35:44 PM
Just WOW!!!
Moish you are amazing!!
GR8 TR.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: chuchem on August 12, 2013, 12:52:05 AM
Moish
Nice tripreport

When staying at the St regis in beijing i had him unpack and pack my suitcases. Saves alot of time, especially if you are only there for a little. They press clothing, that dont look good and really do it perfect.
My flight left at 2 and i got to enjoy the morning shopping, knowing when i am back everything is packed and ready to go.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 12, 2013, 05:55:35 AM
Moish
Nice tripreport

When staying at the St regis in beijing i had him unpack and pack my suitcases. Saves alot of time, especially if you are only there for a little. They press clothing, that dont look good and really do it perfect.
My flight left at 2 and i got to enjoy the morning shopping, knowing when i am back everything is packed and ready to go.

i had them press some stuff too before shabbos.

my wife actually gave them a skirt to press and they on their own decided to wash and press without charging
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 12, 2013, 06:01:42 AM
Moish, what camera did you use for these pics?
i mostly use a canon rebel t2i 18-135mm f3.5-5.6

but sometimes the canon s95
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 12, 2013, 06:02:22 AM
Just WOW!!!
Moish you are amazing!!
GR8 TR.
thanks! i'm glad to see  someone appreciates it...
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Marco Polo on August 12, 2013, 09:10:02 AM
thanks! i'm glad to see  someone people appreciates it...
FTFY :)
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: AMZ450 on August 12, 2013, 12:14:26 PM
Moish- you did it again, great tr.......
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 12, 2013, 05:47:30 PM
Moish- you did it again, great tr.......
thanks, are you the one i met in the Vienna shtieble?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 12, 2013, 05:47:57 PM
Friday evening we taxied to the Chabad house, where I had prepaid for the Shabbos meals on their website through paypal. The meal was very nice and enjoyable, though more of a restaurant’ish experience as opposed to what I’m used to at Chabad houses around the world where it’s more “heimish”. After the meal, one of the gentile workers walked us back to the hotel where I had a 200 CZK waiting for her that I prepared before Shabbos (Disclaimer: Not all situations are the same, so speak to your local Orthodox rabbi).

Shabbos morning I davened at the Altneuschul for the ‘chavaya’ and unfortunately was a bit of a letdown for reasons I won’t go in to. The highlight of the service was the Kiddush the Rabbi sponsored after davening, in celebration of his birthday. The meal at Chabad didn’t go too well either. Although a new, modern building, there was no A/C on this sweltering day. To make things worse, they had supposedly run out of soft drinks and served only room temperature water (and later beer), even though the menu clearly states that they provide “unlimited soft drinks”. While that in itself might have been excusable, the fact that some tables were still able to get while others weren’t ‘zoiche’ is what made me upset. (There’s more to this story, but not appropriate for a public forum). Though the cholent was delicious…

Our flight on motza”sh was scheduled for 12:05am. Being that Shabbos only ended at 9:42pm, we had our stuff mostly packed from before Shabbos. By 10pm, we were already in the taxis on the way to the airport. With the airport located a half hour away, it appeared to be smooth sailing from there.

How wrong I was.

In the taxi ride to the airport, I switched on my phone to check my emails. I had an urgent email from my brother back in Israel who told me that 2 men were caught trying to break into my apartment on Friday night and were chased away. It was not clear if they had succeeded in entering, since the neighbor who had a key was also away for the weekend. So that already put me on edge.

Upon arrival at the airport, I looked at the departures board and could not find my flight. I asked around and was directed to the Travel Service ticketing office that thankfully was still open. They looked at my ticket and flight number and informed me that my flight was at 10:45pm. Apparently, there was a schedule change, and no one notified me. Not the airline and not the agency I booked it through, Israir. There was another flight at 11:20pm, but there were only 2 seats available, and I needed 4.

The agent called the local Czech representative for Israir who asked me, “Can you please explain to me why you arrived at the airport at 10:30 for a 12:05 flight? You had to have been at the airport minimum 2 hours before flight time!” Instead of apologizing for not informing me, he laid the blame completely on my shoulders. Had I arrived at the airport at 10:05, I would have made the 10:45 flight. At least that’s what he said. The earliest flight was the following day, Sunday, at 11pm, but he wasn’t sure he could get us all on. He told me to book 2 rooms at the airport hotel, but couldn’t confirm that he would cover it. I instead opted to go back to the Hilton Old Town, where I had already paid for the second night (it was cheaper to do cash + points for the second night than to do 10pm late checkout).

On Sunday about noon, he called me and told me that the only thing he could do was to put my wife + baby on the Travel Service charter, and I would fly with the 2 older kids on the Czech flight leaving an hour later. With no other option, I accepted his offer.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 12, 2013, 05:49:19 PM
With a half day left in Prague, we took a taxi up to Petrin Hill and the Petrin Observation Tower there (the Czech Eiffel Tower), for amazing views over Prague. There are also gardens and a nice mirror maze the kids enjoyed. There’s also an observatory up there, but during the daytime only sunspots can be viewed so we skipped it.

"The Czech Eiffel Tower"
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Vltava River
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Charles Bridge
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Prague Castle
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We took the funicular down the hill and walked along the river, over the Charles Bridge and to the Old Town Square, where we relaxed and had some local beer in one of the many seating areas. As I was finally out of excuses, I reluctantly “ponied” up (pardon the pun) the 800 CZK for a horse and buggy ride around the Josefov area that my kids had been asking for the whole time.

Funicular
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We then ate dinner at Dinitz, checked out of the hotel, went to the airport with the Israir supplied van, submitted our VAT refund receipts and checked in for our respective flights to TLV. (To my delight, Israir reserved us in Business Class. Although it was only coach seats with an empty middle, it proved to be invaluable as my kids were able to lay out and sleep the whole flight)


And that’s how we did a “light” one week trip to Europe 3 weeks after having a baby. THE END!!
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Marco Polo on August 12, 2013, 05:54:34 PM

We took the funicular down the hill and walked along the river, over the Charles Bridge and to the Old Town Square, where we relaxed and had some local beer in one of the many seating areas. As I was finally out of excuses, I reluctantly “ponied” up (pardon the pun) the 800 CZK for a horse and buggy ride around the Josefov area that my kids had been asking for the whole time.


And that’s how we did a “light” one week trip to Europe 3 weeks after having a baby. THE END!!
How old are the kids that they are drinking beer :)

Really great TR. Having all the pictures throughout, definitely makes it a much better read and is much appreciated.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 12, 2013, 06:00:55 PM
How old are the kids that they are drinking beer :)
They had apple juice (looks like beer)


Really great TR. Having all the pictures throughout, definitely makes it a much better read and is much appreciated.
thanks
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Chaikel on August 12, 2013, 06:10:30 PM
They had apple juice (looks like beer)
Yup, my wife buys that story as well.

Great TR. Hopefully will inspire me. I'm now dying to stay in the Imperial.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: penina on April 10, 2014, 05:52:28 PM
Thanks for the tr. its very helpful as we are planning a trip to Prague this may.
Was just wondering how the SPG Sheraton was. We do have SPG points but we can pay for a hotel if its much nicer and use the SPG for something else. From the reviews online the hotel does not appear to be 5 star or anything special and staying in a nice hotel is important to us.
We will be staying there for 2 days. Which of the attractions you mentioned are a must see?
Thanks for the help
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Jkhein on April 10, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
Thanks for the tr. its very helpful as we are planning a trip to Prague this may.
Was just wondering how the SPG Sheraton was. We do have SPG points but we can pay for a hotel if its much nicer and use the SPG for something else. From the reviews online the hotel does not appear to be 5 star or anything special and staying in a nice hotel is important to us.
We will be staying there for 2 days. Which of the attractions you mentioned are a must see?
Thanks for the help
nothing special
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: steve L on April 13, 2014, 08:43:04 PM
Did you do a light trip bec of the kids or there is enough to do in bit countries for 7 -8 days
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: sky121 on April 13, 2014, 08:44:34 PM
Did you do a light trip bec of the kids or there is enough to do in bit countries for 7 -8 days

You can go from Vienna to Salzburg and stop at some places on the way.  Def can spend some time there.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Emkay on April 28, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
is it just me or the are the pictures from page 4 and on not showing up?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on May 07, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
is it just me or the are the pictures from page 4 and on not showing up?
works for me but they seem to be bigger than when i originally posted them, and the vertical ones got turned on their side. no idea why
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Emkay on May 08, 2014, 08:26:42 AM
works for me but they seem to be bigger than when i originally posted them, and the vertical ones got turned on their side. no idea why
works for me now, Dunno why it wasnt before
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Emkay on May 08, 2014, 08:30:16 AM
works for me but they seem to be bigger than when i originally posted them, and the vertical ones got turned on their side. no idea why
in prague, is 1 1/2 days enough to "see" the sights or should I go for 2 1/2?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: penina on May 11, 2014, 02:55:14 PM
in prague, is 1 1/2 days enough to "see" the sights or should I go for 2 1/2?
I would go with 2-1/2. There is a lot to see and it is a beautiful city
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: Emkay on May 11, 2014, 03:23:45 PM
I would go with 2-1/2. There is a lot to see and it is a beautiful city
anything off the top of your head that's a don't miss?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on May 11, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
anything off the top of your head that's a don't miss?
altneuschul
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: penina on May 11, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
anything off the top of your head that's a don't miss?
jewish ghetto, prague castle
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: AharonInIsrael on August 05, 2015, 03:59:59 AM
Thanks so much for writing this up! Very helpful in planning a trip to Prague!
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on August 23, 2015, 10:54:26 AM
Thanks so much for writing this up! Very helpful in planning a trip to Prague!
You're welcome

I actually have an epilogue I can write which includes the new beer spa, maybe one day...
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: AharonInIsrael on October 29, 2015, 01:52:49 PM
i probably should have mentioned that a babysitter was watching my 2 older kids while i went out with my wife and the little one. so that makes it lighter
Was it a local babysitter, or a fellow visitor?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on October 29, 2015, 02:36:23 PM
Was it a local babysitter, or a fellow visitor?
Vienna was a local family. Prague happened to be a visitor that was visiting a relative for an extended period of time
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: benjie1305 on October 29, 2015, 02:49:19 PM
Vienna was a local family. Prague happened to be a visitor that was visiting a relative for an extended period of time

Would love to know which family. Just came across this for the first time. Boy the memories :)

Fun when others enjoy Vienna. I love it. Didnt visit any of the famous beer gardens in Vienna? Or maybe Cobenzl?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on October 30, 2015, 03:37:13 AM
Would love to know which family. Just came across this for the first time. Boy the memories :)

Fun when others enjoy Vienna. I love it. Didnt visit any of the famous beer gardens in Vienna? Or maybe Cobenzl?
i didnt, i chose to visit the famous beer gardens in Munich instead  :)
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: benjie1305 on October 30, 2015, 07:03:13 AM
i didnt, i chose to visit the famous beer gardens in Munich instead  :)

That works too! :)
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: VacationLover on October 31, 2015, 09:36:42 PM
I will be this week in VIE, and am thinking of visiting the Schoenbrunn Palace, how much time do i need to cover it? Also what is their policy regarding photos?
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: benjie1305 on October 31, 2015, 09:42:52 PM
I will be this week in VIE, and am thinking of visiting the Schoenbrunn Palace, how much time do i need to cover it? Also what is their policy regarding photos?

Pictures are allowed. Usually without flash and some areas have specific guidelines and might be forbidden. But you can definitely take your camera with you.

Around 2 hours inside the palace is definitely enough but if you'll want to wander around the gardens as well you could do 3 hours.
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: VacationLover on October 31, 2015, 09:59:33 PM
Pictures are allowed. Usually without flash and some areas have specific guidelines and might be forbidden. But you can definitely take your camera with you.

Around 2 hours inside the palace is definitely enough but if you'll want to wander around the gardens as well you could do 3 hours.
Thanks!
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: travellove on April 02, 2019, 01:57:33 PM
You're welcome

I actually have an epilogue I can write which includes the new beer spa, maybe one day...

Please do. Thanks
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: travellove on April 02, 2019, 01:59:47 PM
We then strolled down towards the old town, crossing the famous Charles Bridge, dating from the 14th century. I personally didn’t like much of the artwork for sale on the bridge, but as others have pointed out, haggling is possible should you be interested. Coming from the palace, the third to last statue on the left side is the infamous kadosh kadosh cross, paid for by a Jew in 1696 for allegedly “blaspheming” the cross.

We then bought tickets to the Altneuschul and toured it. (Entrance to the Alteneuschul is not included on the Jewish Museum ticket although you can buy it at the same time for a small discount.) As I stated previously, I have a great Jewish guidebook on Prague and we spent some time in the Alteneuschul analyzing the details. After all, it is the oldest continually used synagogue in all of Europe, built in 1270. While no photography is allowed inside, as long as you keep you flash off, you should be fine. Alternatively, you can come for mincha/maariv for free, and can take as many photos as you’d like. Just make sure to come a little early, as during prayer times there’s a guard who asks more questions than security at TLV.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img845/2450/wvla.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img407/3885/tai5.jpg)

Place of the Maharal, and to the left, the Noda Beyehuda
(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/7753/v0b1.jpg)

Attic of the Altneuschul, what lurks within???
(http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5865/zsrc.jpg)

What "great jewish guidebook" did you use? Thanks
Title: Re: “Light” Trip to Vienna & Prague
Post by: moish on May 23, 2019, 09:06:40 AM
What "great jewish guidebook" did you use? Thanks
Great Jewish Cities of Central and Eastern Europe