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Title: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 12:21:31 PM
Looking for a good (read: inexpensive yet above average quality) security camera system. I understand that there are different cameras for indoors and outdoors.
Also, I'm aware that there are two components: the cameras and the DVR. Can i mix and match the two from different brands? is there a known benefit to staying within brand? What about for indoor cams of one brand and outdoor cams of another? How about a DVR of a completely separate, third brand?
Also, remote viewing (RV) is absolutely necessary. some of the reviews online bring up RV as an issue for some models.
Lastly, Wi-Fi vs hard-wired? does it affect quality? speed? remote viewing?

Does anyone have experience with this?
All opinions and expertise are greatly appreciated.

p.s. Let's try to keep the in-forum bickering about halacha, etc. to a minimum and stay on topic. You're a genius and you were the top of your shiur; we get it; now let's move on. As the saying goes, one problem; two jews; three opinions, but save the opinions for another forum.
Thanks much!
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: churnbabychurn on November 26, 2013, 12:38:30 PM
repost
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=26053.0
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 12:45:12 PM
repost
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=26053.0

True but that post is over 2 years old (which is a million in tech years) and it was pretty bland. the only real solid advice was to stay away from no-name brands. good advice but I'm looking for something comprehensive. that post died after a dozen replies.
a good reference though. thanks for showing me.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 12:49:57 PM
True but that post is over 2 years old (which is a million in tech years) and it was pretty bland. the only real solid advice was to stay away from no-name brands. good advice but I'm looking for something comprehensive. that post died after a dozen replies.
a good reference though. thanks for showing me.
my bad. it actually from this march.

in any event there was not much there so.... yeah.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 12:55:16 PM
Looking for a good (read: inexpensive yet above average quality) security camera system. I understand that there are different cameras for indoors and outdoors.
Also, I'm aware that there are two components: the cameras and the DVR. Can i mix and match the two from different brands? is there a known benefit to staying within brand? What about for indoor cams of one brand and outdoor cams of another? How about a DVR of a completely separate, third brand?
Also, remote viewing (RV) is absolutely necessary. some of the reviews online bring up RV as an issue for some models.
Lastly, Wi-Fi vs hard-wired? does it affect quality? speed? remote viewing?

Does anyone have experience with this?
All opinions and expertise are greatly appreciated.

Firstly,

Will you be doing it yourself or will you be hiring someone to do the wiring?

How many cameras do you need?
What is the locations of the cameras, indoor? Outdoor?
Does it need to have IR (inferred) for night vision?
Vandal proof?
Varifocal Zoom (how far away from what you want recorded will you be mounting them)?

What is the purpose of them, live viewing or recording/playback? Or both.

Do you have a specific budget, or you want the job done right?



I always prefer hard wiring vs. wifi/wireless. It is incomparable in quality and signal, and besides even a wireless camera requires a power source, so you will have to be doing wiring anyways.

Next - Most, if not all DVR's these days support remote viewing, if you are a bit computer savvy it should take just a couple of minutes to forward the ports and set it up. 

If you can answer the above questions, I can try to support more light on what kind of system you should get.


Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 01:14:57 PM
Firstly, thanks for your offer to help.

details:
Price-wise, I'm hoping to stay in the $400 or below range. If that number is barking mad, please tell me :) n00b here.

Residential use.

The installation is a non-issue. I have it covered.

I want 4 outdoor and 3 indoor. Audio on the indoor is a plus.

IR or NV is a plus provided its not exponentially more expensive. Maybe just for outdoor vs indoor if it is, in fact, much pricier.

Vandal-proof is not a priority.

Range: indoor is probably max of 50 ft. outdoor is closer to 150-200.

Purpose: Mostly recording/playback for emergencies and/or incidents but I also hope to use as a Nanny Cam soon, IY"H. Also to keep an eye on the hired help.



I found this on Groupon plus I get 4x UR points through Ink. :)
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-foscam-wireless-cameras

Maybe for the indoor cams?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 01:20:29 PM
Firstly, thanks for your offer to help.

details:
Price-wise, I'm hoping to stay in the $400 or below range. If that number is barking mad, please tell me :) n00b here.

Ok for starters,

7 decent cameras, will cost you around $70 a piece. ~$500

A decent 9 channel DVR will cost $500.

Wire, connectors, power supplies... Will cost at least $100

So before I continue answering you other questions, let me know if your willing to spend this...

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 01:30:44 PM
Ok for starters,

7 decent cameras, will cost you around $70 a piece. ~$500

A decent 9 channel DVR will cost $500.

Wire, connectors, power supplies... Will cost at least $100

So before I continue answering you other questions, let me know if your willing to spend this...

hmmmmm I was hoping to be in the ballpark   :-[

Lets assume I can stretch it to $850.
still Possible?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 01:33:43 PM
hmmmmm I was hoping to be in the ballpark   :-[

Lets assume I can stretch it to $850.
still Possible?
You can technically do it for $400 if you get cr@p.

You can get $20 cameras on eBay,
And you can get $150 DVR no-name, there too.

But you get what you pay for, and are verrrrry limited to selection and customization. (which seems you care about)

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 01:38:48 PM
You can technically do it for $400 if you get cr@p.

You can get $20 cameras on eBay,
And you can get $150 DVR no-name, there too.

But you get what you pay for, and are verrrrry limited to selection and customization. (which seems you care about)

All are excellent points.
If you were to do it and had a strict budget of $850 what would you do?

Also, what is more important cameras or DVR? meaning, which do you go budget on?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 02:05:25 PM
All are excellent points.
If you were to do it and had a strict budget of $850 what would you do?

Also, what is more important cameras or DVR? meaning, which do you go budget on?
To me both are equally important.

And when I do jobs for people, I won't take jobs with people that have a budget, cause everything will still be my fault.

Why isn't the camera clear?
Why did the camera die?
Why isn't the hard drive working?
Why is it so hard to play back and locate a video...

The list of issues can go on. So I personally would recommend both quality.

For $850 I would spend $500 on a EverFocus 9ch DVR, great quality. (for such pricing)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0041X2ULY/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1385493251&sr=8-1&pi=SL75

$50 cameras, they are not going to be top of the line in quality, but definitely will do the job. And will be pretty reliable.

And probably another $100 in accessories. (yes, I know it totals $950 but you may be able to get the DVR a drop cheaper if you shop around)
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 02:23:32 PM
all sounds good.

what is your recommendation for outdoor cameras? North Jersey weather, btw.

also, do you recommend any other DVR(s) that you trust that might be less pricey or is it just "EverFocus or bust". Maybe something that has less bells-and-whistles and is thus less expensive.
It's totally okay to say no. I don't want you to feel like you are compromising on quality to help me save money.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 02:31:14 PM
all sounds good.

what is your recommendation for outdoor cameras? North Jersey weather, btw.

also, do you recommend any other DVR(s) that you trust that might be less pricey or is it just "EverFocus or bust". Maybe something that has less bells-and-whistles and is thus less expensive.
It's totally okay to say no. I don't want you to feel like you are compromising on quality to help me save money.
For an outdoor camera, if you will be able to mount it in a location that will get the image you want.
(basically, not that you have to mount it somewhere cause otherwise the wiring won't reach, and then needing to worry about focusing It.)

Then I would advise a Dome, Vandal Proof with IR night vision.

You won't be able to get a 720TVL for that price, but you can get probably a 520TVL (not as clear, but clear)

If location is an issue, then you will want to go with a bullet camera, which is much more adjustable to position.

Regarding a DVR, I don't think you will get quality brand name for too much better.

But then again, it depends on how reliable you need it to be. If it isn't an everyday or even once a week viewing, rather "just in case" something goes wrong and you need to check up... Then I can possibly hear the option to get a non brand name DVR.

But I anit taking achrios!

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 02:43:03 PM

Regarding a DVR, I don't think you will get quality brand name for too much better.

But then again, it depends on how reliable you need it to be. If it isn't an everyday or even once a week viewing, rather "just in case" something goes wrong and you need to check up... Then I can possibly hear the option to get a non brand name DVR.

But I anit taking achrios!

Interesting. brings up another point:
I saw Yeki89 say this in another post about camera systems from a while back "Stay away from no-name products from companies like Qsee, Swann, and Lorex"
What constitutes a "brand name" vs a "no-name"? Swann seems to be a brand name. I've seen it before. Is Foscam  brand name? Is it a good brand name?
It seems arbitrary. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: RT on November 26, 2013, 02:48:30 PM
I know people like Foscam.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
mixing and matching image quality isn't an issue, right? (provided the DVR can handle the highest reso)
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
mixing and matching image quality isn't an issue, right? (provided the DVR can handle the highest reso)
Correct.

No name usually = cheap!

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
No name usually = cheap!

absolutely true.

the question is which brand names are also cheap!
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 03:33:57 PM
absolutely true.

the question is which brand names are also cheap!
in your price range none.

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 03:51:11 PM
in your price range none.
well that's a bummer  :( :(
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 26, 2013, 03:52:20 PM
well that's a bummer  :( :(
You can't win everything.

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on November 26, 2013, 03:53:46 PM
There are some things money can't buy; for everything else, use miles ;)
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: dude21 on November 26, 2013, 07:01:37 PM
Just out of curiosity, are the systems mentioned earlier in this post any better or worse that a hosted solution such as dropcam? Anyone have experience with dropcam?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: youG on November 28, 2013, 12:06:03 PM
Does it make sense that my 7 camera system with 8 chanel DVR would cost $3500 installed? ( and that includes 2 free cameras)
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 28, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
Does it make sense that my 7 camera system with 8 chanel DVR would cost $3500 installed? ( and that includes 2 free cameras)
Yes.
But to know better, it will help if you supply the models and brand name of the parts.

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: youG on November 28, 2013, 01:01:08 PM
Speco weather proof  mini color camera and  HIKvision ir torrent
Vmax flex 8 channel DVR and HDTV screen
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on November 28, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
Speco weather proof  mini color camera and  HIKvision ir torrent
Vmax flex 8 channel DVR and HDTV screen
Top of the Line.

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: MoGro17 on May 29, 2014, 06:17:34 PM
Thread Resurrection:
Now that substantiated reports say that Google expresses serious interest in acquiring Dropcam, I'd like to revisit the issue of security camera systems and Dropcam in particular.
The consensus online (Amazon reviews, blogs, etc) is that Dropcam is a very good system considering it's price ($150). The Samsung SmartCam HD Pro is also highly touted but it costs slightly more.
One caveat, if you will, on Dropcam is that you have to pay a fee for access to the cloud for old footage; watching live is free, going back for 7 days is $10 a month. I'm wondering if I can setup my own DVR system for this to avoid paying them $120 a year. Comments and suggestions welcome.

The question is, does anyone have experience with either of these two systems or can anyone suggest a better system that's in this price range?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: churnbabychurn on May 29, 2014, 07:18:36 PM
I use a foscam for my front door. I don't store the footage, but someone posted that you can easily use an old android and a hard drive to store footage for free.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: njmacman on October 26, 2014, 09:16:15 AM
Why do that if you can just have the Foscam send you snapshots every 10 seconds?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yeki89 on October 26, 2014, 09:44:06 AM
Because a 10 second snap shots are not the same as streaming video.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: elit on October 26, 2014, 10:31:24 AM
Speaking of Foscam: i can't get the app on phone to work outside of my own Wi-Fi? Anyone have a similar issue or know how to fix it?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 26, 2014, 10:37:31 AM
Speaking of Foscam: i can't get the app on phone to work outside of my own Wi-Fi? Anyone have a similar issue or know how to fix it?
of course. Use any IP can app. You are not restricted to foscams app.

You need to open a port on your router, make sure the camera is using the same fixed IP address from the router.
Also use a DNS service to like noip to make sure your external IP remains static.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: elit on October 26, 2014, 10:55:49 AM


of course. Use any IP can app. You are not restricted to foscams app.

You need to open a port on your router, make sure the camera is using the same fixed IP address from the router.
Also use a DNS service to like noip to make sure your external IP remains static.

I did try another app but you lost me after that.  I dint know any of this stuff bytI think i had to open a port and make sure our was a static ip to get it to work in the first place. It works fine to my home and work computer but doesn't work on the phone apps
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: njmacman on October 26, 2014, 11:31:01 AM
Call Foscam customer support and they will set up your DNS service thru them. Free.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: churnbabychurn on October 26, 2014, 02:40:52 PM

I did try another app but you lost me after that.  I dint know any of this stuff bytI think i had to open a port and make sure our was a static ip to get it to work in the first place. It works fine to my home and work computer but doesn't work on the phone apps
you put in your external IP address and port number into the app settings?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: raf on October 27, 2014, 11:01:39 AM
is there a way to connect a wifi dvr to a public wifi?(ex. optimumwifi)
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on November 24, 2014, 07:38:34 PM
I bought 2 D-link wi fi cameras and I am able to see whats going on using the dlink app on my phone. Is there a good app that can record the video?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on December 08, 2014, 10:41:45 AM
I bought 2 D-link wi fi cameras and I am able to see whats going on using the dlink app on my phone. Is there a good app that can record the video?
BUMP

Up thread some one mentioned that its possible to record could hook up an android to a hard drive , how would I do that?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: daganster on April 29, 2015, 01:37:58 PM
I'm looking to buy 4 outdoor IP cameras with the following specs and NVR:

weather proof
high quality
night vision
would need remote access
Wired (As I understand that they work better)
vandalism proof isn't a must, but would consider if it isn't a lot more.
2T NVR

Any ideas?




Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: DanH on April 29, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
I'm looking to buy 4 outdoor IP cameras with the following specs and NVR:

weather proof
high quality
night vision
would need remote access
Wired (As I understand that they work better)
vandalism proof isn't a must, but would consider if it isn't a lot more.
2T NVR

Any ideas?
around here they like avtech
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: daganster on April 30, 2015, 10:22:08 AM
around here they like avtech
Thanks, can anyone elaborate with more details on specs that would fit the bill?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Aaaron on August 06, 2015, 05:44:19 PM
Any options for an indoor camera where there's no wifi/internet?  Someone keeps kicking in the rear door at one of my [vacant] properties.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yeki89 on August 06, 2015, 05:50:19 PM
You will need to wire it to a DVR.

CAmera
Wire
DVR

and Labor..
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Aaaron on August 06, 2015, 05:55:00 PM
You will need to wire it to a DVR.

CAmera
Wire
DVR

and Labor..

My concern is he'll see it and take it...  I can wire it all myself, that's not an issue.  Maybe I'll just get one of those raggedy looking bear cams.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: whacked1 on August 06, 2015, 08:07:08 PM
Any options for an indoor camera where there's no wifi/internet?  Someone keeps kicking in the rear door at one of my [vacant] properties.
I just had squatters at a property, HUGE headache!!! Secure the door!
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Aaaron on August 06, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
I just had squatters at a property, HUGE headache!!! Secure the door!

Squatters are common for me, this is probably the old owner kicking in the rear door. 
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ChAiM'l on August 06, 2015, 09:00:26 PM
How about these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=Wildlife+camera+
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: whacked1 on August 06, 2015, 09:31:18 PM
Squatters are common for me, this is probably the old owner kicking in the rear door.
How did you get rid of them? Were they pros? What I mean is, mine came with a fake lease and everything. They changed the locks and literally took up residence! Mind you this was in a period of two weeks. They always left one guy on site to avoid having us lock them out.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Aaaron on August 06, 2015, 11:17:07 PM
How about these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=Wildlife+camera+

Looking into those.  Thanks!

How did you get rid of them? Were they pros? What I mean is, mine came with a fake lease and everything. They changed the locks and literally took up residence! Mind you this was in a period of two weeks. They always left one guy on site to avoid having us lock them out.

My situation is different.  The two most recent times were people who were evicted post-foreclosure and they broke back in.  A call to the cops and they get arrested for B&E.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Entrepreneur on January 10, 2016, 05:08:48 PM
Is this is good outdoor security camera?http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0198PPD5Y?vs=1&th=0
Just looking for an outdoor camera with WiFi capability to see who is at my door
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Entrepreneur on November 27, 2016, 01:20:16 PM
Looking into getting an outdoor and indoor wifi security camera.  I don't want to pay the monthly cloud fees. 

Are there any models where I can save recordings to cloud storage like dropbox (or any other free cloud option?)

What models/brands should I consider (assuming no monthly cloud fee and whether or not I can save recordings myself on the cloud). This can include saving to SD card?

If there are any other considerations like software to install for monitering, any recommendations would be great as well.

Thanks
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: User6669 on November 27, 2016, 06:03:36 PM
How about these? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=Wildlife+camera+

Someone could just walk off with it.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Mordyk on November 27, 2016, 06:07:29 PM
Looking into getting an outdoor and indoor wifi security camera.  I don't want to pay the monthly cloud fees. 

Are there any models where I can save recordings to cloud storage like dropbox (or any other free cloud option?)

What models/brands should I consider (assuming no monthly cloud fee and whether or not I can save recordings myself on the cloud). This can include saving to SD card?

If there are any other considerations like software to install for monitering, any recommendations would be great as well.

Thanks
I just bought this.   Seems pretty cool. And no wiring necessary. I believe 7 day cloud storage is free
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgear-arlo-smart-home-indoor-outdoor-wire-free-high-definition-security-cameras-4-pack-white-black/1668003.p?skuId=1668003
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on November 28, 2016, 12:05:22 AM
I just bought this.   Seems pretty cool. And no wiring necessary. I believe 7 day cloud storage is free
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/netgear-arlo-smart-home-indoor-outdoor-wire-free-high-definition-security-cameras-4-pack-white-black/1668003.p?skuId=1668003
i believe I saw a deal for  under 3 check around
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Mordyk on November 28, 2016, 09:41:58 AM
i believe I saw a deal for  under 3 check around
That was for 3 cameras or refurb.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: stooges44 on January 25, 2017, 02:35:46 PM
Does anyone know if this is worth it?

https://jet.com/product/Amcrest-720P-Tribrid-HDCVI-4CH-1TB-DVR-Security-Camera-System-with-4-x-1MP-Dome-/fdc6304d986d4c1bb5fc38d5739b5cd8

Comes to 192.49 with coupon: AMCREST30

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: stooges44 on February 02, 2017, 07:58:09 AM
Anyone know if this is good?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Defender-Connected-8-Channel-1TB-Smart-Security-System-DVR-with-4-800-TVL-Ultra-Hi-Res-Indoor-Outdoor-Cameras-21110/203688265?keyword=203688265
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on February 02, 2017, 12:44:18 PM
Anyone know if this is good?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Defender-Connected-8-Channel-1TB-Smart-Security-System-DVR-with-4-800-TVL-Ultra-Hi-Res-Indoor-Outdoor-Cameras-21110/203688265?keyword=203688265
I would make my way to youtube watch some videos

also check app store for reviews of their software that will give you a MAJOR real feel
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Menachem613 on March 22, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
I was given a rough estimate of $4k to install a 4 outdoor camera package. Does that sound reasonable?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on March 22, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
I was given a rough estimate of $4k to install a 4 outdoor camera package. Does that sound reasonable?
yes and no.....

prices can be from 2k up to 20k
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Menachem613 on March 22, 2017, 03:02:02 PM
yes and no.....

prices can be from 2k up to 20k

What about using Hickvision 4 megapixel IP cameras?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ual902 on March 22, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
I was given a rough estimate of $4k to install a 4 outdoor camera package. Does that sound reasonable?

Depends on the labor involved, sometimes there is drilling and piping involved can be allot of work.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ual902 on March 22, 2017, 05:25:04 PM
What about using Hickvision 4 megapixel IP cameras?

Hickvision is very reliable.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on March 22, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
Depends on the labor involved, sometimes there is drilling and piping involved can be allot of work.
+1
For a Hikvision system, with a screen and remote viewing. All set up - with an easy wiring  application don't expect under $2500. 4k may be fair depending on house layout, and camera location requirements.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yehuda25 on March 22, 2017, 11:35:49 PM
Can I get a decent package for $400?

Im looking for 2 or 3 indoor cameras, 1 outdoor camera. I don't want to wire much, so has to be wireless - and preferably a reasonably priced cloud storage plan
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yikes2179 on March 23, 2017, 12:08:38 AM
Can I get a decent package for $400?

Im looking for 2 or 3 indoor cameras, 1 outdoor camera. I don't want to wire much, so has to be wireless - and preferably a reasonably priced cloud storage plan
Try the yi home cameras - i have some & i love them however i didn't sign up for the cloud storage yet so I am not sure how much it costs
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Jkhein on March 23, 2017, 12:29:34 AM
Try the yi home cameras - i have some & i love them however i didn't sign up for the cloud storage yet so I am not sure how much it costs
+1 cheap and works very well
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yehuda25 on March 23, 2017, 08:43:31 AM
Try the yi home cameras - i have some & i love them however i didn't sign up for the cloud storage yet so I am not sure how much it costs
thanks, will take a look
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: stooges44 on March 23, 2017, 11:42:24 PM
Try the yi home cameras - i have some & i love them however i didn't sign up for the cloud storage yet so I am not sure how much it costs

Link?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Gets on March 24, 2017, 12:02:13 AM
This is the best option for a home. No wiring at all, 7 day free cloud storage.

The older model is cheaper w/o the sound.
$100 more expensive on amazon.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/arlo-pro-indoor-outdoor-hd-wire-free-security-camera-system-4-pack-white/5604600.p?skuId=5604600
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yikes2179 on March 24, 2017, 12:04:14 AM
Link?
YI Home Camera Wireless IP Security Surveillance System (US Edition) White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016F3M7OM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_WPj1ybN1WJ3JY 

Or

YI Dome Camera Pan/Tilt/Zoom Wireless IP Security Surveillance System 720p HD Night Vision (US Edition) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CW4BG4K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_zQj1yb8TQYZVE

You can also get full HD versions but they are more expensive
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: User6669 on March 26, 2017, 01:43:19 AM
Link?

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/155-9344969-3429063?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=YI+Home+Camera (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/155-9344969-3429063?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=YI+Home+Camera)
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yehuda25 on March 26, 2017, 07:35:16 PM
This is the best option for a home. No wiring at all, 7 day free cloud storage.

The older model is cheaper w/o the sound.
$100 more expensive on amazon.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/arlo-pro-indoor-outdoor-hd-wire-free-security-camera-system-4-pack-white/5604600.p?skuId=5604600
will look into it, thanks!
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yehuda25 on March 26, 2017, 07:45:13 PM
so, you seem to riight, the arlo seems to be a great choice. Samsclub has the non pro version for $369 expiring tonight...

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/arlo-hd-security-cam-3-pk-wifi-ip-cameras/prod18560428.ip?&xid=plp:product:1:1
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yehuda25 on March 31, 2017, 12:06:38 AM
This is the best option for a home. No wiring at all, 7 day free cloud storage.

The older model is cheaper w/o the sound.
$100 more expensive on amazon.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/arlo-pro-indoor-outdoor-hd-wire-free-security-camera-system-4-pack-white/5604600.p?skuId=5604600
good call, paid $360 for 2 pro ones shipped from jcpenney
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Gets on April 20, 2017, 03:27:27 PM
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Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 21, 2017, 01:31:45 AM
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thanks!

lets see what goodies they have
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yehuda25 on April 21, 2017, 01:33:06 AM
Get 20% off your next purchase of select Arlo accessories by entering this code at checkout:

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is this from newegg?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: joe1234 on December 06, 2017, 11:11:31 PM
Speaking of Foscam: i can't get the app on phone to work outside of my own Wi-Fi? Anyone have a similar issue or know how to fix it?
Anyone figure out how to take care of this problem and know how to explain in simple terms?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 07, 2017, 12:47:17 AM
Anyone figure out how to take care of this problem and know how to explain in simple terms?
I'm not familiar with Foscam particularly, but what have you tried and it didn't work?

I assume that you need to connect to the Public IP address. Correct? Have you done a port forwarding to the Camera/NVR?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ruru1000 on December 07, 2017, 10:38:56 AM
Anyone figure out how to take care of this problem and know how to explain in simple terms?
Port forwarding probably needs to be set up. You can call foscam and they will walk you through it.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on December 07, 2017, 11:44:27 AM
I'm not familiar with Foscam particularly, but what have you tried and it didn't work?

I assume that you need to connect to the Public IP address. Correct? Have you done a port forwarding to the Camera/NVR?
I bought them in the past and wasn't happy
new ones could be better
but so far i struck out
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: cholent on December 07, 2017, 12:12:52 PM
I'm thinking of putting up a single camera to monitor the front of my house, as I get many deliveries when I'm out and don't bring them in till hours later. Would the ring doorbell be enough for me, or what would ppl here recommend?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: joe1234 on December 07, 2017, 03:52:28 PM
I'm not familiar with Foscam particularly, but what have you tried and it didn't work?

I assume that you need to connect to the Public IP address. Correct? Have you done a port forwarding to the Camera/NVR?
All I did was set it up with wifi with my phone... I'm not such a tech guy so I don't really understand what you wrote... I would appreciate if you can explain if it's not too hard...
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yisroel Tech on December 07, 2017, 04:57:28 PM
All I did was set it up with wifi with my phone... I'm not such a tech guy so I don't really understand what you wrote... I would appreciate if you can explain if it's not too hard...
It is somewhat complicated, so...
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: churnbabychurn on April 04, 2018, 07:47:45 PM
Any good webcams/nannycams with sound? (Under $50)

Bought this one on Amazon but the app keeps crashing...

https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Security-UOKOO-1280x720p-Surveillance/dp/B0777JXQD3
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yikes2179 on April 04, 2018, 08:37:42 PM
I use these - very happy for them

YI Dome Camera Pan / Tilt / Zoom Wireless IP Indoor Security Surveillance System 720p HD Night Vision, Remote Monitor with iOS, Android App - Cloud Service Available
 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CW4BG4K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_E-wXAbV8W2SB5
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: joe1234 on April 04, 2018, 09:07:01 PM
Is there any way to get a foscam camera to record on a memory card?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: thaber on April 05, 2018, 11:46:52 AM
In my experience foscam hogs tremendous bandwidth
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Shmulie on April 08, 2018, 07:45:15 PM
My DVR for my security camera system died the other day anyone have any recommendations for a new one?
I have 8 cameras running through COAX

I would like as cheap as possible but it must have an app to view from anywhere
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on April 08, 2018, 08:05:41 PM
Get a hikvision dvr.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Shmulie on April 08, 2018, 10:02:41 PM
Get a hikvision dvr.
thanks
best place to get one?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on April 11, 2018, 04:36:29 PM
My DVR for my security camera system died the other day anyone have any recommendations for a new one?
I have 8 cameras running through COAX

I would like as cheap as possible but it must have an app to view from anywhere
If you get from costco you have a great warranty
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: jes on April 11, 2018, 07:10:15 PM
Looking for a reasonably good but small or non noticeable camera for in house?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Shmulie on April 11, 2018, 07:56:29 PM
If you get from costco you have a great warranty

Do they sell just the DVR without cameras?
any specific recommendation?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on April 12, 2018, 10:17:55 AM
Costco stuff is cr*p
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on April 12, 2018, 10:19:17 AM
thanks
best place to get one?
security system depot 13th ave- google it.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on April 12, 2018, 04:52:01 PM
Do they sell just the DVR without cameras?
any specific recommendation?
Check their site
they might

in store they wont
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: emineh17 on April 13, 2018, 12:07:44 PM
I'm looking to install cameras in my home and I would like some advice.

Should I install standard wired cameras with a DVR or should I go with a wifi camera?

If I should go with a wifi camera, which one is a better option, the Nest, Arlo, or something else?

TIA!
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on May 03, 2018, 02:14:25 PM
I'm looking to install cameras in my home and I would like some advice.

Should I install standard wired cameras with a DVR or should I go with a wifi camera?

If I should go with a wifi camera, which one is a better option, the Nest, Arlo, or something else?

TIA!
Do you want a screen on all the time showing you the feed?
if so hard wire

if you want to do the job yourself and just have cameras and just be alerted of motion or just check in wired
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: est on July 16, 2018, 01:32:41 PM
Would the blink home system dan posted now fit the needs for a standard security system mostly for the occasional accident, incident... and indoor to keep an occasional check on cleaning help, without complicated setup ?

https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/blink-xt-home-blink-indoor-home-security-camera-systems-sale-prime-day-savings/

Or any better recommendations?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: davidmal on July 18, 2018, 02:54:28 PM
Would the blink home system dan posted now fit the needs for a standard security system mostly for the occasional accident, incident... and indoor to keep an occasional check on cleaning help, without complicated setup ?

https://www.dansdeals.com/shopping-deals/amazon/blink-xt-home-blink-indoor-home-security-camera-systems-sale-prime-day-savings/

Or any better recommendations?
Super easy set up

but not great for constant live viewing
as that would drain the battery
it's great for occasional check in and alerts

No set up
no wires
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: yitzyul on July 19, 2018, 10:39:13 AM
Just priced out to wire my house (indoor and outdoor) and price is approx $4000 with units for 6 camera's (labor intensive)
Any options for an easy wireless (battery or solar) units? Just need for basic viewing safety (check up on kids,) or for security. Concerned with shabbos if motion sensor.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ludmila on July 19, 2018, 10:13:12 PM
Costco stuff is cr*p
Not always, sometimes they carry good ones. And can't beat the warranty.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: stooges44 on August 20, 2018, 01:33:41 PM
Is it possible to view multiple dvr on one monitor?

Is is possible to view the dvr via a cat5 wire? (I know via hdmi, but just curious)

TIA
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: kayef on August 20, 2018, 01:41:50 PM
Is it possible to view multiple dvr on one monitor?

Is is possible to view the dvr via a cat5 wire? (I know via hdmi, but just curious)

TIA
If the monitor supports more than one input.

They have cat5 to hdmi converters.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on August 20, 2018, 02:16:25 PM
You can see multiple dvr on one monitor if the monitor has multiple hdmi input, or if you get a hdmi switch.

And yes, you can get hdmi over cat5 converters.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Yisroel Tech on August 20, 2018, 07:51:56 PM
You can see multiple dvr on one monitor if the monitor has multiple hdmi input, or if you get a hdmi switch.
But he'll not get simultaneous both screens at the same time. That is not possible for most monitors, except expensive big ones with split screen view.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 26, 2018, 09:56:47 AM
Is there a way to program a camera system to shut off for 2 minutes an one random time each day or each week? Is there a outlet that can be programmed to shut off that way?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on October 26, 2018, 11:14:56 AM
Old fashion shabbos clock.

Or a wifi outlet that's programmable.

What are you trying to accomplish?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 26, 2018, 11:20:06 AM
Old fashion shabbos clock.

Or a wifi outlet that's programmable.

What are you trying to accomplish?
I want to create a safek psik reisha

A shabbos clock is not random

Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: tzifanya54 on October 26, 2018, 12:41:59 PM
I want to create a safek psik reisha

A shabbos clock is not random
Are you sure that its considered a pisik raisha?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 26, 2018, 12:48:47 PM
Are you sure that its considered a pisik raisha?
No Not at all.

But if it is a psik reisha Im looking to make it a safek psik reisha.



Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: tzifanya54 on October 26, 2018, 12:51:10 PM
No Not at all.

But if it is a psik reisha Im looking to make it a safek psik reisha.

They make digital clocks that have random on off but that means you will go a while with no camera coverage. Ask your LOR, I believe that there are a lot of heterim with security cameras
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 26, 2018, 12:57:08 PM
They make digital clocks that have random on off but that means you will go a while with no camera coverage. Ask your LOR, I believe that there are a lot of heterim with security cameras
Those random clocks  are no good. Im looking for it to be off once for 2 minutes. Those clocks are meant to make it look like someone is home...

I don't want this to turn into a halacha thread.... buy yes there are many matirim. So... Safek when I walk by if the camera is on and if it is on, safek if its a psik reisha
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: grodnoking on October 28, 2018, 06:48:03 AM
I'm looking for a camera that can be connected to WiFi, download the stream on to a computer (don't want to pay a fee every month, need 3 days of download), and can be plugged into a outlet (must be 220v rated, as this is in Israel).
What's the options?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on October 28, 2018, 09:31:41 AM
@how - So have someone else set it. It will be sofek pisik reisha for you, as you will never know if this is the time it was off.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 28, 2018, 09:35:20 AM
@how - So have someone else set it. It will be sofek pisik reisha for you, as you will never know if this is the time it was off.
that doesnít work. Itís a safek in yedia. Not a real safek
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 28, 2018, 09:36:53 AM
Supposedly the cameras on the way to kosel operate this way, with each camera being off for one random minute over shabbos
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: real-brisker on October 28, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
Just quoting what I heard from someone from their LOR. Ask your LOR.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: EJB on October 28, 2018, 09:57:38 AM
that doesnít work. Itís a safek in yedia. Not a real safek

Not everyone agrees with that, but it's something to consider.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 28, 2018, 10:21:06 AM
Not everyone agrees with that, but it's something to consider.
Here we go again  :D
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: how on October 28, 2018, 08:40:07 PM
I'm looking for a camera that can be connected to WiFi, download the stream on to a computer (don't want to pay a fee every month, need 3 days of download), and can be plugged into a outlet (must be 220v rated, as this is in Israel).
What's the options?
There are many....
One Example
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PVD13KC/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PVD13KC/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: lunatic on November 12, 2018, 08:28:38 PM
Since this thread is 5 years old, and all the substantive info is 3-4 years old ...
Looking for outdoor cameras (4-6) with wifi connection. Electric connection hard wired. I am mostly concerned with deterring a common thief and being able to check on things via phone app. Not trying to protect a bank :)

I am thinking of something like this (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I01QLTE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_c4G6BbET5ZDBE). Maybe go with a 4 pack and NVR like this https://amcrest.com/amcrest-ultrahd-4-megapixel-2688-x-1520p-8ch-network-poe-video-security-system-nvr-kit-four-4mp-poe-outdoor-bullet-ip-cameras-164ft-night-vision-hard-drive-not-included-power-over-ethernet-black-4-megapixel-2688-x-1520-8ch-network-poe-video.html

Looking for options and ideas... and how much should it cost to install?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: lunatic on November 12, 2018, 08:31:49 PM
Or something like this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/360642970631
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ygygold on May 04, 2020, 10:12:49 AM
Can't believe there are no new updates here.

I don't wanna go with wired cameras as I want to do everything myself, and snaking wires isn't in my skill set yet.

I have one Wyze camera, and a ring doorbell. Both are hooked up to an old tablet that is mounted to the wall as a live viewing screen. The screen is always logged in to TinyCam (where I view Wyze), and when someone rings the bell it goes for two minutes to the ring live view.

I'm looking to add an outdoor camera that will work with Wifi and TinyCam. Also I want to make sure it has no IR lights as those are an issue for Shabbos.

Any suggestion?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: KSMH on May 04, 2020, 10:58:13 AM
Can't believe there are no new updates here.

I don't wanna go with wired cameras as I want to do everything myself, and snaking wires isn't in my skill set yet.

I have one Wyze camera, and a ring doorbell. Both are hooked up to an old tablet that is mounted to the wall as a live viewing screen. The screen is always logged in to TinyCam (where I view Wyze), and when someone rings the bell it goes for two minutes to the ring live view.

I'm looking to add an outdoor camera that will work with Wifi and TinyCam. Also I want to make sure it has no IR lights as those are an issue for Shabbos.

Any suggestion?
Why are IR lights an issue for shabbos?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ygygold on May 04, 2020, 12:47:22 PM
Why are IR lights an issue for shabbos?

Per all the posts in the Ring Doorbell thread, they are a psik reisha.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: Alexsei on May 04, 2020, 12:59:35 PM
Per all the posts in the Ring Doorbell thread, they are a psik reisha.
Does ubiquitis line pose any shabbos issues?
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: kayef on May 04, 2020, 02:43:09 PM
Per all the posts in the Ring Doorbell thread, they are a psik reisha.
Itís the motion sensing that are the issue, not IR lights themselves. IR is used for night vision in most cameras
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: ygygold on May 04, 2020, 02:45:23 PM
Itís the motion sensing that are the issue, not IR lights themselves. IR is used for night vision in most cameras

So if I turn off motion sensing and have it run the whole time, I shouldn't have an issue?

Still looking for someone to recommend a camera.
Title: Re: Security Camera System
Post by: KSMH on May 04, 2020, 02:47:35 PM
So if I turn off motion sensing and have it run the whole time, I shouldn't have an issue?

Still looking for someone to recommend a camera.

I'm not proficient in wireless.
Wired cameras have an option for continuous recording, you can set that for individual days.